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How can you implement the V4V model if you have a daily podcast?

In Ep #22 we dive into Lifespring! Family Audio Bible with Steve Webb (aka The Godcaster). Due to his daily episodes we see how he structures the feedback portion to be shorter and more related to the episode content or in reference to the feedback itself.


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Nothing is more powerful and more good than value for value   other than perhaps the Almighty himself.   Welcome everyone to another episode of the value for value   podcast. My name is Kyrin and I do these episodes to highlight   podcasts that are going deep and using the value for value model   and do a review of them so we can explore what it is that   they're doing well, what perhaps that they could improve on and   some ideas that you can take away for your own shows. So   today, we're going to jump into one called Lifespring family   Audio Bible and I got this I suppose suggestion because the   man himself Steve Webb sent me a booster gram a show or two ago   and I wanted to highlight that and to go over what he's doing   and sort of seen his his name around in the podcasting 2.0   area for a while. So what's the best way to describe it? Well,   I'm gonna let him do it in himself. And we can jump in and   explore a bit more from there.  

Coming to you from Riverside, California, this is the   Lifespring family Audio Bible podcasting since 2004. I'm here   Oh g god casters. Steve Webb, welcome. I'm so glad to see you   today. This is the daily show where we're reading through the   entire Bible in a year. Today's poetry Thursday, and   we'll say that we go that's a pretty good explanation of what   he does the god caster Steve Webb, and he is not joking   around. If you go to the About section on his website, you can   really see how, how much effort he's put into getting into   podcasting. And yeah, he has been around since 2004. So he,   he does, he does take it seriously. Now, his show the   family audio Lifespring family Audio Bible, it goes for about   20 to 30 minutes, as I'd say the rough episode time length. And   as he mentioned, it is a daily reading. So it comes out every   day. That is amazing consistency right there. And this current   season, which he talks about is season 12, where he's going over   the whole Bible in a year, I have yet to particularly listen   to some of his previous seasons, as I've sort of just been   jumping into this, this last section, but man, I just gotta   say amazing consistency for because from what I could tell   he has been maybe not daily over the past, you know, decade and a   bit. You're getting close to two decades, I suppose. But he's   also been putting videos on YouTube, for example, I saw on   how to pronounce, pronounce names from the Bible. And he's   just really into the podcasting 2.0 world. So we'll go on to the   value fair value implementation section, I guess and and see   what is how is he introducing it into his shows. So he typically   does it right near the end, I suppose his shows are   approximately from the 90% onwards point. And he usually so   therefore, it really only lasts for about five to 10% of of his   full podcast. It's not a large part of the show, I would say   so. And that seems to be a real mix of all of his interactions.  

So whether this is the treasure value for value, so an actual   donation coming in, or whether it be commentary or whatnot. And   this sort of makes sense, because it's quite hard to have   continuous feedback feedback for a daily show. So I'm not   surprised that his value for value section is quite short and   small, because, you know, doing it for every single day, it's   unless you're a super, super huge show. You're just not going   to have that much feedback coming in. But here's a small   example of how he tends to run it.   The top four are Adam curry, James Cridland, who is the host   of pod news number three with Adam curry, number four with   Adam curry, number five, the Lifespring family Audio Bible.  

So what he is actually just talking about here to add some   context is this was from an episode John one, two in the   beginning, which was published on the second of April. And he   was talking about the top five shows that were on the podcast   index.org and had previously read out How about he was I   believe number 14 in the fountain rankings itself. And so   he does read out booster grams, he has booster gram enabled, he   also has the sections to be able to send in Fiat. So this is   through Pay Pal and whatnot. If you go on to his website,   there's a big donate button as well. I'll get onto that   shortly. And this is where he's just talking about how he's so   grateful I guess for for everyone who's donating and   helping to support the show and so we'll continue on.  

Couldn't believe that that blew me away when I saw that. And   that's all thanks to you guys. You guys are amazing. Saying   thank you so very much. I'm speechless. Truly, thank you.   Now think about this, who would have thought that a show where   what we do is read the Bible would be number five, when the   pod father, Adam curry is in three of the top five slots.   Amazing. Thank you. All I can say is keep it up, please. And   not just for me, I mean, it's very cool. I love seeing this   ads come in. But the main thing is, this gives the show more   visibility, which helps to bring others into the family to hear   the Word of God. So how cool is that? That's you guys, that's   God, that's the Holy Spirit. That's I had very, very little   to do with it.  

So that you go, I think that's actually a really good point   that he makes, which is, you know, not focusing on the value   amount. Now, I think all of us can acknowledge that money plays   a huge role in our lives, and you do need to have your money   situation sorted. But when, if possible, money not being the   primary factor, but this sort of second order. And this is what I   really like about value for value. And, and sort of how I   tend to run it on my shows as well, the the main models and   models, book reviews, the the amount doesn't particular   matter, although it is related to the value that you have   gotten from it. So I do encourage you to really think   about how much it is. And obviously, if it's higher,   that's, that's a much more appreciated on my end. But for   him, it's sort of like me, which is, it's the secondary content.  

So it's the secondary thing. So if I'm doing things really well,   and I'm producing great content, and I'm putting in the effort,   and I am doing everything I can to make the show better for for   my audience and filling my listeners, the that should just   naturally sort of take care of it. So as long as I highlight   it, but for him, as he was mentioning here, you know, it's   not the amount that matters, it's sort of the the the the   primary thing is like he gets to spread the word of God more, he   gets to have greater visibility, because now he's number five on   the on the rankings chart. I think that's really cool. I   think that's a great way of looking at a value for value.  

And it's not being the money, money, money, money and dollar   bills go up ching ching ching, ching ching money printer? No,   no, it's it's much more about the the other benefits that you   can get from that. And this is what I almost always constantly   highlight. It's the direct feedback, audience interaction   that's being able to, to, you know, get that immediate   response, it's to be able to know that someone is actually   out there listening, it's to be able to help improve the show by   people sending in comments, it's to be able to make the show   better, because there's comments and whatnot. So he, I think he's   bang on the mark there. And it's, it's really encouraging to   see see things like that. Now, I should say also with his value   for value implementation that He's highly encouraging of   comments on the website, or the email. So I'll just play a   little section here, which is what what he really tries to, to   highlight, I suppose,   let other people know about it. Comment on the show at   Lifespring media.com/s 12 e 267. Email me at Steve at Lifespring   media.com thanks to the team Kirsty Sean of San Pedro and   Denise   so one thing I just would say here that maybe he could be   doing better would be, it might be better to really focus on the   boosting section. So typically, when he finishes the podcast,   he'll will end it in this way, which is, you know, if you want   to leave a comment, go to here, season 12, episode 261. Now,   this is one of the sections where being in podcasting 2.0 is   a bit more helpful, because, you know, that's it's kind of hard   to remember, this is the problem that I've faced with many times   in the past, which is encouraging feedback and how to   get it. Because it is extremely tedious. If you're a listener,   hearing something like that, oh, you have to remember s two s   one, two e 261. Slash add that to the the end of their website   to go to the show notes. By the time you've done all of that   that's that's sort of like two or three minutes from the actual   request for a comment for feedback. And then you have to   deal with all the difficulties of I guess, am I writing this   comment without context? Is he going to understand where I'm   coming from in which particular section of the podcast I'm   referring to? Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera? So this is   where a I would, I would say encouraging the the comments to   be done directly in the app is better? Yes, this is still early   days. And perhaps he's more focused on on getting content   for a show totally understand that. But also being able to   just include a link to that perhaps in the chapters section   would be so much better because that's a Just minutes of time   for the minutes of time. And also, I would even equivalent   that to sort of like hours of, of, of pain points to get   through. If there's a simple clickable link in the actual   podcast episode, which you can find it and find it in, in good   podcast apps. So if any of the new ones are like fountain, for   example, where you can just click the link, and it'll take   you directly to those comments section. So once again, we'll   probably be better just having the, the request, I guess, to be   a comment in the actual app, because you get that direct   feedback. But you know, this is a another section where he's   obviously highlighting really encouraging comments, and so to   go to the website, or to his email, or etc, etc, etc, I also   want to acknowledge just how deep he is in the final section   of this valley for value implementation of, of everything   that he does. And so if you go to Lifespring, media.com, and in   particular, the Donate section, which will be slash support, you   can see a myriad of ways of how you can help them out. So   there's a big donate clickable button. But he also goes out why   your help is needed. And so how this goes into website hosting   fees, media, server fees, computer studio, software, etc,   etc. He highlights how he doesn't do outside advertisers,   more on that in the unique section coming up, but also in   the value section. So he really goes over, you know, supporters   who donate a one time gift over 50, or the equivalent value of   Satoshis will receive a special thanks in the next aptitude   episode produced to the live stream family Audio Bible. And   then there's there's go up higher and higher. So he uses a   sort of no agenda type naming system, which is associate   producer, Executive Producer, distinguished producer. I have   heard him previously talk about how I he will send out a Bible   to you as well. So there's definitely incentives that he   creates for for people to donate. And this isn't   surprising that he uses a lot of the no agenda. I suppose lingo   and and the way that they frame things because he actually   interviewed Adam curry in 2004. He says on his website, how he   talked how he first found out about podcasting via the radio   and when Adam Curry was being interviewed, and then this sort   of makes sense that he would use Well, he's the God caster, he's   been doing it since 2004. So, you know, there's probably only   a couple of other podcasts that have been that long. And he   would have definitely been in the no agenda world and knowing   about how Adam runs his show, and there's obviously dive right   into that as well. So we'll go into the something unique   section. And so this is maybe something that I think he does   that I haven't seen other people do particularly and and can just   be a small highlight and maybe something for you to take away   to your own show. So here's just a simple section which I will   elaborate on in a second. Here's your cue to boost   follow Seattle came in with his weekly $22.22 cent distinguished   producer donation. Thank you, Paulo, Seattle very much   appreciate it. God bless you, my brother, you can support the   show too. If you find value in it, please go to Lifespring   media.com/support.  

Now you might think, okay, that's that's just a simple   thanking for someone off on the show for for what they've done   and for helping to support. But the cool thing is, if you go to   the end of his episodes, you really have no idea what's going   to come up because, as I mentioned, he does a daily   episode, a daily reading of the Bible. And as I mentioned, this   can also be kind of inconsistent, you know, it's   really hard to get that sort of feedback on that level, daily   and daily. But I would argue that this can also be termed as   a positive point because you don't know what's going to come   so in those sections right at the end, you know, sometimes he   has a message like a thanks like this for someone, sometimes it   can be a booster gram, sometimes it can be an email that's been   sent in sometimes it can be a prayer request, sometimes it you   know, it goes on, like a little story from themselves or from   how someone provided value in a unique and different way. And I   think that's quite cool, because it doesn't make it boring.  

You're sort of you don't know what's gonna come up. It could   be nothing or it could be a huge section or it could be him   highlighting a podcasting 2.0 but it's it's kind of cool that   his value section isn't consistent in a way because Is   it it will leave you like wandering on your toes a little   bit? Oh, what's going to come up next? So I would say keeps it   somewhat intriguing. And unless you hate V for V and a bored by   it, in which case, boo, why are you even here, then, then it's,   it's something a little bit different things that I think   that also slightly different, that is unique about his show   and related to the concept of value for value is he really   highlights that he can't be censored or D platformed, which,   as being a Christian is, is something quite pertinent to, to   Christians, if you look at the history and whatnot. And he   really goes over this in the section I suppose I suppose   about why your help is needed. As I mentioned about no outside   advertisers, the only advertising that you will ever   hear on any of the shows is for products or services that are   personally create or provide. And so you know, that's even in   a in a section where it's like, that's, that's not particularly   advertising the way that most people would think about it,   which is a, like a shilling of a product on in between the show   where it doesn't necessarily make sense, I think about TV,   and you see a wild turkey bourbon ad in the middle of a, I   don't know, a crime show or something like that. And I think   that's a good place to end it of our examination of the   LIVESTRONG family Audio Bible and we're going to go now into   some booster grams in the booster gram lounge. Welcome to   devalue for value was to grab   some bad shout out to Adam curry for creating that jingle A while   ago, there was only one rooster cram coming in this week. But it   was a very special and much appreciated one. And this was   from PETA PE T AR who was well known to me first helping   support some of my other shows like The mere mortals and mere   mortals book reviews. Then he sends through 4750 sets using   fountain and says, this podcast reminds me of the time Cosmo   Kramer wrote a coffee table book about coffee tables. Brilliant.  

Thank you. Thank you, Peter. You know, it does feel a little bit   like that it is getting sort of meta in that way. But I think   once again, it's it's, it's sort of helpful for me to be to be   able to examine myself what I'm doing, which is a sort of meta   in itself, like me thinking about me. And yeah, it's man, I   really hope other people get enjoyment from this. And, you   know, some of the best meta podcasts are those, you know,   podcast talking about podcasts, for example, there's a, there's   plenty of them out there. So, ya know, it's much appreciated   Peter, and it could be the best strategy I've ever come up with.  

And so value for value, we'll end it off with a my little   value value pitch here. And I'm going to take a little bit of a   piece of advice from Steve Webb and what he's doing and make it   something different. So one thing I would say is, if you   enjoyed the show, I do want to just remind you that I do have   two others that I work on quite consistently, the main one being   the mere mortals. So if you're into conversations, these the   longer ones typically half an hour to an hour twice a week,   sometimes with guests, but usually with my co host my main   man one and we go over a deep conversations with the   lighthearted touch on there. So anything related to sort of   fitness philosophy, goal setting cryptocurrencies, you know,   that's that's way well up our alley, and some things you'll be   hearing about on there. And then there's the metal does book   reviews channel, which is a once a week podcast, typically 20   minutes is I'd say, the rough length where I will want usually   me do a book review of what we've been reading, and I'm   pretty varied with my books as well. So some weeks it'll be   philosophy and then you'll have something called like Madame   Bovary by Gustavo Flaubert, which is what I'm reading at the   moment. And then you might have a fantasy fiction something to   do with the metaverse like Neal Stephenson's book Snow Crash,   you know, there's there's a whole bunch of things that I do   in there. So a little bit of very, if you're just into books   in general, that's another place I would recommend that you go   check out so for all of you who have tuned in for the full   episode, thank you so much. I would encourage a booster gram   if you want your show as well on here, send through a booster   gram and I will I can check that out. And I do hope you're having   a fantastic day with the Word of God and His grace smiling upon   you as well and wherever you are in the world. Kyrin out