In Ep #3 we're going to examine a practical example of giving value?
Before I ever heard of the Value 4 Value model I was reviewing random podcasts and leaving them a nice message. This was influenced by a kind message I received during my first 3 months of podcasting and was an opportunity for me to pay that forward. I eventually turned this into a strategic way to create a community and I ended up receiving rewards for this in totally unexpected manners. So this is an encouragement (and example) from my own story on how to give value to a random person and how this will help make you a better person!
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Before I ever heard of the Value 4 Value model I was reviewing random podcasts and leaving them a nice message. This was influenced by a kind message I received during my first 3 months of podcasting and was an opportunity for me to pay that forward. I eventually turned this into a strategic way to create a community and I ended up receiving rewards for this in totally unexpected manners. So this is an encouragement (and example) from my own story on how to give value to a random person and how this will help make you a better person!
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Welcome my fellow traveler to episode three of the value for value podcast, I wanted to start off this intro by announcing that the value for value is now chapter and link enabled. So, in essence, if you want to get the full benefit of this, I would suggest going to a couple of these podcast players as I will be including pictures and links for most of the chapters. So right off the top of my head, and when you testing out these would be anytime podcast player, podcast addict, pod friend, curio caster, maybe hyper catcher I have don't have an iOS phone, so I can't do that. And if you use iv.fm, on the desktop, you can kind of see it on there. But I wouldn't particularly recommend that today's episode is giving value a case study. So this is going to be an exploration of how I actually was giving back value without even realizing it, doing it in a sort of value for value model sense. But my particular way of doing it, and just really showcasing how it doesn't need to be about money. So I want to start with a little story from myself. And this was back when I was just first starting podcasting. So this was in September of 2019. And Juan and I have my co host of the Mere Mortals podcast, we were releasing one episode a week we did, we're just starting it off.
For the first time, we were nervous, we had no idea what we're doing. So we're just going to try it out, see what happens. And we're about 14 episodes in. So this was roughly three months, with a weekly episode being produced. And we got a random review from someone in the United States we'd never interacted with him before. And it was reads as follows. Excellent show keeps me interested. Real simple, real short to the point. But man did this make a big difference to me and left an indelible impression on my mind. Because this was the first time I actually knew Whoa, this is someone not one of my friends or family who was actually listening to the podcast. And they went out of their way to deliver us, you know, a nice little snippet, they left me 12345 words. And it really, really brightened my day. So this was actually by someone called hello and no. So if they have listened again, thank you very much Hello, no. But it really got me thinking how often does one get an outsized opportunity to create joy. So they did something real really simple.
They went to iTunes or Apple podcasts, they left five words, and it absolutely brighten my day. And you know, here I am, a year and a half later, a year and three quarters later, still talking about it. So it got me thinking, you know, not long after this, I wanted to start doing something similar, I realized, Hey, this is actually a really nice way I can give back value to someone with minimal effort on my part. And I could absolutely brighten their day like they brighten mine. So I started do this by leaving comments and reviewing other people's podcast. And this was really nice for a period until I realized, you know what, I could be doing this in a better way.
And so it really got me thinking, there's a way to give value back strategically as well. So there are a couple of considerations you need to have, because you can give value. But if you're just doing it in a way where no one knows about it, it almost is like, are you actually giving value? You're going back to the Zen koan, if a tree falls in the in the forest, and no one's there to hear it, did it actually fall like did it actually make a noise, that sort of thing. So I want to list my process of what I was doing. So for a time I was finding a new podcast, and then I would go on to iTunes, leave them a review.
And that was about it. And the thing is, with doing that there, I'm not really being able to see and know, hey, is this actually going to leave that joy, that impression that I got from this? Because once again, you sort of just doing it, and it's going out there into the ether, and you're never really sure. So I changed my process a little bit to, to reflect this, because, one, I wanted to do it and know if it was actually having an impression. So how will they know. And then also, you know, there is a point to be made about, nothing we do is is altruistic to the nth degree, there is always an element of you wanting to interact with another person, because if you're just doing something, and it's not having an effect on the world, well, hey, you won't actually know if that's happening. So my process was, I would go onto Instagram, and I would listen to a couple of episodes of a new person's podcast. And I would find this podcast by going on into Instagram and adding random people with a podcast or finding a podcast page on there and then looking through their followers and whatnot, people they interact with and then you're going to find another bunch of podcasts is because it's sort of a almost an incestuous relationship and they're in a way a community you you find other podcasters and you listen to other podcasts and hey, that's, that's super cool. So My process was I would listen, I would then leave a review on iTunes or Apple. And then I would go and give them a shout out on my Instagram story. And then also send them a message, a direct message. And this did a bunch of things, it really helped me create a community for myself because I was actually getting to interact with these people now. So not only was I, you know, getting the opportunity to give something out to them to give them some value, you know, unasked for I did this randomly by finding random people, but it was serving myself as well in a way. And so that's the one of the things with with giving value. And you hear this all the time with giving is better than receiving because one of the things is it actually does end up coming back to you in some weird and funny ways. So I'll get on to that in a little bit.
The thing though, is you'll you'll also find that you can have an evolution doing this as well. So as I talked about the case study for myself, what was happening was I was starting to do this with just random podcasts, and then I'd go hey, you know what, I'm a nosy podcaster I'd like to know more obviously. podcasters Are there people doing podcasts in Brisbane? Are they doing it in the Gold Coast? Are they doing it in Perth, Western Australia, so I would start to go out. And then I would exclusively do this for Ozzy podcasters. Now I've come around to another sense of community and had been diving into the podcasting 2.0 world and all the people that are in there. And it's like, oh, well, I've found a new community I can start giving value back to So nowadays, I'm doing a similar sort of thing, but through booster gram messages, for example. So I'm sending people even more value in the sense that holy crap, I just got 50 cents worth of bitcoin from a random person. How cool is that? And they sent me a message. So I knew if someone was actually listening, not only were they actually listening, but they put their money where their mouth was and said, Hey, I actually got something from this. So that was my experience, I suppose doing the value for value and giving back in a way. And I want to just go on a couple of lessons that I learned from this. So first of all, you will get back outsized value as well. So funnily enough, even though I would just send a simple message to some people leave a simple review, much like that, hello, and no did for me right back when I first started podcasting, I would start getting random things, people would send me some stickers in the mail, they'd go, Hey, thank you for doing this. Here's some stickers. So we have a bunch of stickers now on the wall in this very room of people who I connected with unprompted, we got some notes attached with those, you know, lovely handwritten notes, the sort of people the things that you're you would dream of from your grandma and whatnot, they they send through those sorts of things, the pod appearances, you know, people would ask me to be on their podcast just unannounced, you know, just randomly. Hey, you seem cool. Do you want to come on my podcast? Hell, yeah. So one of the things is you just have this gradual accumulation of a community and it's a really, really nice feeling. And when you're the one giving value, it comes back at you like, it's almost guaranteed it's call it karma, if you want, but you going out unprompted and doing these things, it will come back to you, and it will, I would say it's made me a better person, as well as made me more generous, because I now regularly will, will try and find other ways I can do this in my life. And whether that be, you know, giving blood or doing something as simple as picking up the litter from the place that I, I work out. And when you start getting into this mindset, better things just start to happen. Another feeling or a learning I came from this was you do have to mean it. So I talked about it almost strategically, in a way. But the problem is if you start doing this, and you start thinking, I'm going to do this, for this reason, I'm going to get this value back out of it. Like I said, you will get it in return. But if you start expecting and demanding it of in return, that's when you can get into some weird areas. So I noticed for myself that at one point, it was almost becoming forced, I was like, I have to find another podcast for today and listen to that, and then send them a message, forgetting that the whole point of this was, I really enjoyed just going to other people's podcasts and sending them a random message and hopefully brightening up their day. So you do have to be careful with that. And I think the the critical point is when you're giving value, you can't expect to demand it sort of you have to be very comfortable with the fact that lots of people aren't going to reply at all.
This has happened to me more times than I care to count. So I've been doing this for a year and a half pretty solidly now. So that's probably you know, I'd be getting into the hundreds of podcasts that I've I've randomly listened to and sent messages to plenty of them have not responded back and then also just getting a feeling that you You know what, sometimes it is just gonna go into the ether. It's not that they're being mean, or that they don't care, it's maybe they didn't even get that chance to see that message. There's plenty of times on Instagram where it'll go to a weird random folder, or they're not following you, and et cetera, et cetera. So that was a good learning for myself, just to remind myself and see that little slippery slope that can happen where if you're giving value and expecting or demanding it in return, that is probably an unhealthy mindset and an unhealthy process to get yourself trapped in.
The other one is you gain knowledge. So for example, for me, it's not just me giving value and doing it. And I'm not getting it returned. Because there is something to be gained. By listening to hundreds of podcasts, I've definitely taken little bits and snippets that I've noticed other people doing, I've learned of the importance of audio, for example, I've learned of the importance of really cutting down on the arms and legs and ORs, and you get a feeling of what a good podcast is, and what a good podcast isn't when you listen to so many, because you'll find a whole bunch that are really good, a whole bunch of they're really bad, and a whole bunch that are in the middle as well. So even though it might feel like you're just giving something out, and you're not getting it in return in the moment, you actually are learning some different things as well. So I learned a lot about how to use socials, for examples how people can do some cool little things into connecting their podcast with their Instagram, or with their Twitter or Facebook and things like this, and how they connect with other people in the community as well. So if you really wanted to go to it, I have actually seen some people who will do podcast reviews. And so I think it might be Dave Jackson. But someone else in that sort of realm will say, Hey, if you want me to review a podcast, I'll do it live on the air with someone else. And, you know, if you insert X amount of dollars, and to get this service, I can really help you improve your podcast almost turning into a consulting business of sorts. So my, I guess, like final recommendation, my, my takeaway here is just be a bit more generous. If you're, if you're listening to a bunch of other podcasters, or you're a audience member, or you're a podcaster yourself, there's so many things that you can do to brighten up someone's day to give a bit of joy to give back some value. It doesn't need to be in a monetary form, even though that is possible nowadays with the whole value for value model and all of these cool apps where you're able to stream Satoshis and send boostagrams and all these sorts of things. But a simple kind message or a bit of feedback that's constructive, can make a world of difference for someone starting out, and even those who are maybe at the top of their game, and they just need a simple reminder of hey, you know what, I really enjoyed this podcast. Thanks. Thanks for creating this. So that is my little case study for today of giving value. I wanted to share that, as I have mentioned that a couple of times and some different areas and a recommendation for other people to do that as well. Now, this is a value for value podcast, this is enabled. So if you got some value from this, Hey, I would really appreciate if you would go on to breeze or one of these apps where you can stream Satoshis or like I was just saying send me a message on Instagram. You can find me at Mere Mortals podcast, or there are a myriad of other ways that you can decide on how to give value back maybe you want to share it out. Maybe you want to give a shout out. Maybe you want to add a note, you could send me a note if you really want there's all sorts of ways so I would really appreciate that. And if you do send a booster gram you will almost you will definitely be getting on a mention and a highlighting on this show, for example. So that is it for today. I really want to thank you for listening to this point and I really hope you're having a fantastic day wherever you are in the world. Kyrin out
Welcome my fellow traveler to episode three of the value for value podcast, I wanted to start off this intro by announcing that the value for value is now chapter and link enabled. So, in essence, if you want to get the full benefit of this, I would suggest going to a couple of these podcast players as I will be including pictures and links for most of the chapters. So right off the top of my head, and when you testing out these would be anytime podcast player, podcast addict, pod friend, curio caster, maybe hyper catcher I have don't have an iOS phone, so I can't do that. And if you use iv.fm, on the desktop, you can kind of see it on there. But I wouldn't particularly recommend that today's episode is giving value a case study. So this is going to be an exploration of how I actually was giving back value without even realizing it, doing it in a sort of value for value model sense. But my particular way of doing it, and just really showcasing how it doesn't need to be about money. So I want to start with a little story from myself. And this was back when I was just first starting podcasting. So this was in September of 2019. And Juan and I have my co host of the Mere Mortals podcast, we were releasing one episode a week we did, we're just starting it off.
For the first time, we were nervous, we had no idea what we're doing. So we're just going to try it out, see what happens. And we're about 14 episodes in. So this was roughly three months, with a weekly episode being produced. And we got a random review from someone in the United States we'd never interacted with him before. And it was reads as follows. Excellent show keeps me interested. Real simple, real short to the point. But man did this make a big difference to me and left an indelible impression on my mind. Because this was the first time I actually knew Whoa, this is someone not one of my friends or family who was actually listening to the podcast. And they went out of their way to deliver us, you know, a nice little snippet, they left me 12345 words. And it really, really brightened my day. So this was actually by someone called hello and no. So if they have listened again, thank you very much Hello, no. But it really got me thinking how often does one get an outsized opportunity to create joy. So they did something real really simple.
They went to iTunes or Apple podcasts, they left five words, and it absolutely brighten my day. And you know, here I am, a year and a half later, a year and three quarters later, still talking about it. So it got me thinking, you know, not long after this, I wanted to start doing something similar, I realized, Hey, this is actually a really nice way I can give back value to someone with minimal effort on my part. And I could absolutely brighten their day like they brighten mine. So I started do this by leaving comments and reviewing other people's podcast. And this was really nice for a period until I realized, you know what, I could be doing this in a better way.
And so it really got me thinking, there's a way to give value back strategically as well. So there are a couple of considerations you need to have, because you can give value. But if you're just doing it in a way where no one knows about it, it almost is like, are you actually giving value? You're going back to the Zen koan, if a tree falls in the in the forest, and no one's there to hear it, did it actually fall like did it actually make a noise, that sort of thing. So I want to list my process of what I was doing. So for a time I was finding a new podcast, and then I would go on to iTunes, leave them a review.
And that was about it. And the thing is, with doing that there, I'm not really being able to see and know, hey, is this actually going to leave that joy, that impression that I got from this? Because once again, you sort of just doing it, and it's going out there into the ether, and you're never really sure. So I changed my process a little bit to, to reflect this, because, one, I wanted to do it and know if it was actually having an impression. So how will they know. And then also, you know, there is a point to be made about, nothing we do is is altruistic to the nth degree, there is always an element of you wanting to interact with another person, because if you're just doing something, and it's not having an effect on the world, well, hey, you won't actually know if that's happening. So my process was, I would go onto Instagram, and I would listen to a couple of episodes of a new person's podcast. And I would find this podcast by going on into Instagram and adding random people with a podcast or finding a podcast page on there and then looking through their followers and whatnot, people they interact with and then you're going to find another bunch of podcasts is because it's sort of a almost an incestuous relationship and they're in a way a community you you find other podcasters and you listen to other podcasts and hey, that's, that's super cool. So My process was I would listen, I would then leave a review on iTunes or Apple. And then I would go and give them a shout out on my Instagram story. And then also send them a message, a direct message. And this did a bunch of things, it really helped me create a community for myself because I was actually getting to interact with these people now. So not only was I, you know, getting the opportunity to give something out to them to give them some value, you know, unasked for I did this randomly by finding random people, but it was serving myself as well in a way. And so that's the one of the things with with giving value. And you hear this all the time with giving is better than receiving because one of the things is it actually does end up coming back to you in some weird and funny ways. So I'll get on to that in a little bit.
The thing though, is you'll you'll also find that you can have an evolution doing this as well. So as I talked about the case study for myself, what was happening was I was starting to do this with just random podcasts, and then I'd go hey, you know what, I'm a nosy podcaster I'd like to know more obviously. podcasters Are there people doing podcasts in Brisbane? Are they doing it in the Gold Coast? Are they doing it in Perth, Western Australia, so I would start to go out. And then I would exclusively do this for Ozzy podcasters. Now I've come around to another sense of community and had been diving into the podcasting 2.0 world and all the people that are in there. And it's like, oh, well, I've found a new community I can start giving value back to So nowadays, I'm doing a similar sort of thing, but through booster gram messages, for example. So I'm sending people even more value in the sense that holy crap, I just got 50 cents worth of bitcoin from a random person. How cool is that? And they sent me a message. So I knew if someone was actually listening, not only were they actually listening, but they put their money where their mouth was and said, Hey, I actually got something from this. So that was my experience, I suppose doing the value for value and giving back in a way. And I want to just go on a couple of lessons that I learned from this. So first of all, you will get back outsized value as well. So funnily enough, even though I would just send a simple message to some people leave a simple review, much like that, hello, and no did for me right back when I first started podcasting, I would start getting random things, people would send me some stickers in the mail, they'd go, Hey, thank you for doing this. Here's some stickers. So we have a bunch of stickers now on the wall in this very room of people who I connected with unprompted, we got some notes attached with those, you know, lovely handwritten notes, the sort of people the things that you're you would dream of from your grandma and whatnot, they they send through those sorts of things, the pod appearances, you know, people would ask me to be on their podcast just unannounced, you know, just randomly. Hey, you seem cool. Do you want to come on my podcast? Hell, yeah. So one of the things is you just have this gradual accumulation of a community and it's a really, really nice feeling. And when you're the one giving value, it comes back at you like, it's almost guaranteed it's call it karma, if you want, but you going out unprompted and doing these things, it will come back to you, and it will, I would say it's made me a better person, as well as made me more generous, because I now regularly will, will try and find other ways I can do this in my life. And whether that be, you know, giving blood or doing something as simple as picking up the litter from the place that I, I work out. And when you start getting into this mindset, better things just start to happen. Another feeling or a learning I came from this was you do have to mean it. So I talked about it almost strategically, in a way. But the problem is if you start doing this, and you start thinking, I'm going to do this, for this reason, I'm going to get this value back out of it. Like I said, you will get it in return. But if you start expecting and demanding it of in return, that's when you can get into some weird areas. So I noticed for myself that at one point, it was almost becoming forced, I was like, I have to find another podcast for today and listen to that, and then send them a message, forgetting that the whole point of this was, I really enjoyed just going to other people's podcasts and sending them a random message and hopefully brightening up their day. So you do have to be careful with that. And I think the the critical point is when you're giving value, you can't expect to demand it sort of you have to be very comfortable with the fact that lots of people aren't going to reply at all.
This has happened to me more times than I care to count. So I've been doing this for a year and a half pretty solidly now. So that's probably you know, I'd be getting into the hundreds of podcasts that I've I've randomly listened to and sent messages to plenty of them have not responded back and then also just getting a feeling that you You know what, sometimes it is just gonna go into the ether. It's not that they're being mean, or that they don't care, it's maybe they didn't even get that chance to see that message. There's plenty of times on Instagram where it'll go to a weird random folder, or they're not following you, and et cetera, et cetera. So that was a good learning for myself, just to remind myself and see that little slippery slope that can happen where if you're giving value and expecting or demanding it in return, that is probably an unhealthy mindset and an unhealthy process to get yourself trapped in.
The other one is you gain knowledge. So for example, for me, it's not just me giving value and doing it. And I'm not getting it returned. Because there is something to be gained. By listening to hundreds of podcasts, I've definitely taken little bits and snippets that I've noticed other people doing, I've learned of the importance of audio, for example, I've learned of the importance of really cutting down on the arms and legs and ORs, and you get a feeling of what a good podcast is, and what a good podcast isn't when you listen to so many, because you'll find a whole bunch that are really good, a whole bunch of they're really bad, and a whole bunch that are in the middle as well. So even though it might feel like you're just giving something out, and you're not getting it in return in the moment, you actually are learning some different things as well. So I learned a lot about how to use socials, for examples how people can do some cool little things into connecting their podcast with their Instagram, or with their Twitter or Facebook and things like this, and how they connect with other people in the community as well. So if you really wanted to go to it, I have actually seen some people who will do podcast reviews. And so I think it might be Dave Jackson. But someone else in that sort of realm will say, Hey, if you want me to review a podcast, I'll do it live on the air with someone else. And, you know, if you insert X amount of dollars, and to get this service, I can really help you improve your podcast almost turning into a consulting business of sorts. So my, I guess, like final recommendation, my, my takeaway here is just be a bit more generous. If you're, if you're listening to a bunch of other podcasters, or you're a audience member, or you're a podcaster yourself, there's so many things that you can do to brighten up someone's day to give a bit of joy to give back some value. It doesn't need to be in a monetary form, even though that is possible nowadays with the whole value for value model and all of these cool apps where you're able to stream Satoshis and send boostagrams and all these sorts of things. But a simple kind message or a bit of feedback that's constructive, can make a world of difference for someone starting out, and even those who are maybe at the top of their game, and they just need a simple reminder of hey, you know what, I really enjoyed this podcast. Thanks. Thanks for creating this. So that is my little case study for today of giving value. I wanted to share that, as I have mentioned that a couple of times and some different areas and a recommendation for other people to do that as well. Now, this is a value for value podcast, this is enabled. So if you got some value from this, Hey, I would really appreciate if you would go on to breeze or one of these apps where you can stream Satoshis or like I was just saying send me a message on Instagram. You can find me at Mere Mortals podcast, or there are a myriad of other ways that you can decide on how to give value back maybe you want to share it out. Maybe you want to give a shout out. Maybe you want to add a note, you could send me a note if you really want there's all sorts of ways so I would really appreciate that. And if you do send a booster gram you will almost you will definitely be getting on a mention and a highlighting on this show, for example. So that is it for today. I really want to thank you for listening to this point and I really hope you're having a fantastic day wherever you are in the world. Kyrin out
