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In Ep #23 we are covering how Sir Spencer and Dame DuhLaurien use v4v on their show Bowl After Bowl. The unique aspect they bring is that they translate a concept their listeners would understand (in this case 'passing the bowl') and how this is an integral part of their show.
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In Ep #23 we are covering how Sir Spencer and Dame DuhLaurien use v4v on their show Bowl After Bowl. The unique aspect they bring is that they translate a concept their listeners would understand (in this case 'passing the bowl') and how this is an integral part of their show.
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It is time to get lit. And I'm not just talking about the live item tag. Welcome, everyone to another value for value episode. My name is Kyrin. And this is the podcast where we dive deep into the value fair value model where we look at how you can jump on to this new way of monetizing of earning of being able to create and sustain a lifestyle without having to resort to the advertising model, which is boo not so fun. In this episode, Episode 23 We're going to be looking at another example of how a cool podcaster podcasters creating this for themselves how they're introducing this in a unique way to suit their own podcast. And we're just gonna dive right into it. We are going to look at bowl after bowl so bowl after bowl is hosted by Spencer and Dame DeLorean. So just from the titles you know that also from the no agenda world they have, I'm going to once again just do this in their own words because that's a little bit easier. So although bowl after bowl is a bigger dream for Lauren and Spencer the podcast started in 2014 out of Colombia, I believe they did about 25 ish episodes ranging through 2014 to 2015. Columbia Missouri as a as an outlet to share updates on the drug war and other items of interest and local and regional news show material included their adventures lobbying for normal and no RML and show me cannabis traveling to the SoCal High Times Cannabis Cup after winning free tickets on Twitter. Very cool. And interviewing interviewing Jeff marizanne ski from prison after a five year hiatus, so they started in 2020. Now, kicking the podcast off again, the dude got the show back up and running after a gracious guest appearance in the smoker on hogs story, the trendiest podcast in the universe, universe. And then there's just a couple of extra details here about how to connect with them. So they've been on them on my radar a little while, especially suspensive, because I've been diving, sort of communicating with him in the value for value world and also some cool stuff that he is doing with bringing, making the music industry better, which is a huge, a huge task in itself. And if you want to know more, I will be chatting with Spencer on the Mere Mortals podcast. So there'll be a link when that is out in the show notes here. So these these two, basically, they get together, they'll have a chat. They're up to I think 100 And something 165 episodes now. Yeah, 165. And they do a mix. So from what I can tell, there's cuz I haven't gone through each one of their episodes, I've got really two different formats, there's the two of them together, where they'll usually discuss sort of weed news, they'll talk about cool things that are happening in their life, just interesting things. So sort of like a little bit of everything. And these shows typically, typically go for hours. So two hours, three hours is a pretty standard time length, from what I can tell.
And then they have bowls with buds. And this is where they'll get on a guest. And they'll usually talk about weed related things, the marijuana, but also also, you know, it's not necessarily just related to that there'll be a lot of podcasting 2.0 News and things like that as well. So, meetups I've written, I've written here, meetups pig, but the fediverse Spencer's hole in his pants, that all sorts of things get thrown in on this. So let's go into the value for value implementation, what are some things that they're doing which not not that unique section yet, but just, you know the core principles of how to run value for value. And so typically what they do is, because their shows are so long they are and once again, I have yet to you know, go through hours and hours and hours of of multiple shows. So it's it's kind of hard to know exactly how they run it. But typically, from what I can tell around the half an hour mark, they will do their first real value for value section. So this is where they'll start with the treasurer. So in particular Pay Pal or the booster grams. And they will play a little clip here from one of the things that they do. And you can sort of see how they like to kick off this area and, and how they run it.
We do feel obligated to name and thank people who go a step further than passing the ball and since some sort of value in the form of time, talent and treasure, and we'd like to start the show off with the treasure and thank people and you know just kind of talk about what's coming in so that further ado I know that the Pay Pal this week we had one. So once again, nothing wrong with using PayPal especially Lately, in this world where hopefully, you know, in the future Bitcoin and the, these alternative currency payment systems will will become more dominant, especially with the use of the online culture and things like that, you know, like the standard, the standard system just seems to be very slow and sluggish. It'd be nice if we could do micro payments in Australian dollars, but that is not possible. So that's, that's fine. But obviously, you still need to recognize, yep, we're still going through that transition. And so Pay Pal, things like that, you know, whatever method you want to use.
That's, that's totally fine. Buller slide in. And that is a 333. Spot. Or buddy a one selves. Yeah, thanks, a one sauce. So thank you, sir. Yeah, and check out his podcast, the spoken word at the source.io. I will have a link in the show notes. There you have where we have such great ISOs from his show. So once again, this is a kind of cool thing where it's, you might just think, oh, you know, how should I thank them? What should I do? This is where it's, they've created obviously a connection with this, this guy, I think it was a one south and he is not only just provided the booster ground, but it's also like a little bit of a plug for his own show, even though he didn't say anything that was a sorry, that wasn't even a booster ground. That was just a PayPal. And yet, there's this sort of linking feedback where it's every everyone's the more you jump into this community, the the deeper you start to go.
So that can almost be a warning sign. Like if you don't, if you don't have, if you're on a tight schedule, perhaps not looking at the value for value is the best option. Because you're you tend to get sucked in kind of deep, we also have been big proponents with running out front with the scissors. And what I mean by that is podcasting 2.0, the cutting edge of how you can in real time share value with your favorite shows us your favorite podcasts that are value enabled, all you got to do is take off all your clothes and go to nude podcast apps.com. And all of the podcast apps there that support the value tag are what you're looking for, click Apps at the top and click value. And you'll get a list of all these different apps that you can try out, try several of them out, you know, see which one you liked the best.
This is helpful, because this is something that I'm perhaps a little bit guilty of where I forget how many steps are required still to really get a new person who's listening into to be able to do all of this. So this is, you know, a fairly decent explanation. And if you really wanted to, you could probably break that down into like another 10 steps, because there are so many areas along the way where someone can get lost, typically it gets to the point of I've made for me personally, it was not the downloading of the apps not choosing one. Because most people know how to download an app and whatnot, it's the getting money from your bank account converted into bitcoin on the Lightning Network, which is just excruciatingly painful. Now, that was excruciatingly painful for me. When I was first doing this about a year ago, I'm it's gotten a little bit better from what I can tell, but it is still still many steps. And it's still very dependent on where you are in the world. Here in Australia, it's very different than the recommended way that you can do it in, for example, America where suspension and Dame DeLorean. And this is where you have to find that mix, I guess between how much advice you want to give and how much is is not going to be useful because they could say things like use the cash, app use, et cetera, et cetera. And then I'm over here in Australia going I can't do any of that. So you know, I think at the moment, everyone's still trying to find their, their general I guess like method of how much detailed info to give and, and how much hand holding and things like that. To be honest, I think if anyone reached out to any of us, it's like, I'll show you how to send me through through the histograms and Satoshis like I'll spend the time to do that. But yet doing that in a clean polished manner on your show is hard and I think they did a pretty good job that of that of just, you know, the basic steps here's the first step you have to do is just get a get a good podcast app just you know, get get one way you can see chapters in it or transcripts or the you know, the ability to link and have the you're the person tag so you can click on the link down below, down below and it'll send you places all of these sorts of things. That's it. It's almost like just getting that first step is is, is, is useful. And so I do a very similar thing, which is go to this website and just get a new app and try it out pod verse just added boosting abilities. I haven't got into try the boost part of it yet. So I'll try to do some of that this week, had my hands so full with work stuff lately, but getting back on that horse, and riding, but the beautiful thing about this is you can send tiny little pieces of Bitcoin, and you can attach a message to them. And that's what we call booster grams. And that's what these boosters here did that I'm about to read starting off with a couple that came in after we signed off with the Ben roses. And the first over that weekend section was a 1337 Delete boost from mere mortals podcast. Oh, he was boost in Episode 163, the boss battle and he's asking, Is there somewhere that we can see this infamous jeans hole with winky face or without disappointed face as attached.
So I totally forgot to that I did take a picture of the jeans. So this is just a reference to when I was listening to that show. And he was giving us a pretty funny story about how he ended up having this massive hole in his jeans and could have potentially been walking around out in public, showing his bare ass cheek off without realizing it. And then beautiful enough in the show notes, if you go to that episode of this episode, he's he's attached a picture of, of, of the genes with the retina and it's a pretty decent sized home as well. So that's, I suppose just a fairly emblematic example of how they'll implement the value for value. They do a whole lot of other things as well. There are constant pep rings through their show of other podcasters it's sort of like the informal network, there's no, there's no like board meetings of Yeah, I'm going to promote your show, you're going to promote mine.
This is how we do it, which I find distasteful when it's when it's, you know, a straight cut for an ad read or like an other podcast host read me personally, I don't like that. But when it goes and flows in with a show like this does. And that's that's a, you know, another way of providing value in almost like the ecosystem in a way it's sort of, you know, it's not even all scratch your back, you scratch mine, it's, it's just sort of human courtesy. And, and niceness just rises to the forefront. There's no, there's no implicit like, it has to be value for value. It's like, Oh, I'll provide some value. And not man, these people are cooler doing cool things over there. I like that podcast, I'll talk about it on my show. So yeah, that's a couple of ways there of how they do it. Now what's something unique as well, which Spencer and Lauren to, I'm going to play a little section here, which I think is is something I haven't seen before and which I find quite intriguing.
You can go to ball africa.com, click on Listen Live, to get to the stream, you get to the bowl, the IRC chat, all the lovely bowlers in there, and everybody's produced everybody's given value energy, even if you're out there listening and you just pass the ball to the next guy. Like it's not peer pressure, it's just your turn, you know, yeah, that's perhaps the simplest form of value, we always open it up because it's important we open the show up with it. And some people in the past have been like man, maybe don't do that. But we tried a couple of ways. And you know, we'd like to soft open with like catching people up on the happenings. But before we get into a meat and potatoes of our content, we really like to thank the people that brought it to you, you know, it just seems appropriate to do and that's why we do it that way.
So what the unique thing there is that they really link it to the the concept of this show as well. So bowl after bowl you know it's a it's a show about weed marijuana smoking, etc etc. And but that's a you know, a common parlance and those terms, you know, pass the ball. And applying that to the concept of value for value I think makes a lot of sense in the for that show because you know, who was naturally going to get drawn to a show called bowl after bowl where the cover art image is a picture of like a mouth with some lips smoke coming out and a green marijuana leaf. It's probably people who will be involved in that culture of some sort. And so it's one of the hardest things about value for value is the explanation of it.
You know why? Well one as well being confident enough to saying like, Hey, I am providing value here and I'm requesting it in return. That's that's pretty big hurdle to overcome. But once you've done that, it starts to get into the area of okay strategy. How can I explain this In the simplest, or maybe the funniest, or the most interesting way possible, and their way of doing it, where it's linking to a concept, which their audience would already know, realm, you know, really well, that is being the sort of sharing of of a joint and passing it from one person to the next that the the feelings that are evoked by doing that. And then, you know, putting that to the concept of value for value and saying, okay, you know, this is the similar sort of thing, this is what we do, and how we request that you show that show, that sort of spirit that you do when you're with your friends and smoking and sharing a joint, you know, apply that here to my podcast. So I think that's really cool. And they I didn't include it in this section here. And I can't remember exactly where it was.
But they've, they've, they've talked about this in many other ways, like not caring about the numbers of downloads, because you wouldn't pass the ball as well to someone who is not cool. So once again, this is another concept where, you know, if you're at a party or something, having a joint with friends, you might not pass it to the dude who's been an asshole across the room. And this is sort of similar to their show, which is like, they don't care. They don't want everyone because, you know, there's a lot of assholes when you get everyone. So the emphasis is really on the sharing within their communities, which is very cool. Now another thing that they do and if you're checking out the image at the moment, you'll you'll see this which is they put in their show notes. Right at the front, it just says value for value. Thank you to ball after ball episode 165 Executive Producers, Justin a one source current down, hey, hey, half hat lavish Phoenix Burberry Thor, the one that hammer, see Dubs. The list goes on people who they used for tonight's intro music. And that's something that I've sort of done in my answer in my own show in Mere Mortals. Once again, the executive producers, this is a concept they've taken from no agenda. But one of the coolest things was if you go to the website, where they've got their this particular episode on, there's a link on my name. And that link goes directly to my my website, which was just like, Whoa, what the fuck? How cool is that? So not only is it you know, here's, here's just a, you know, a shout out to Thanks for for appearing on the show, you know, they've gone to the extra effort of directing someone who would, you know, the one in a million person who would want to see like, oh, Carindale What's this, click on that name, and it takes it directly to my website, which I find so, so cool that that's, you know, that that little extra effort that they've put in there, I really do appreciate that really do think that's super cool. And, you know, this is sort of something that I do a lot of my own show as well, which is I will go to the extra effort of including a funny name for the location of where the podcast was taken. So if I do an episode on how to know, the topic of like, the pinnacle of success or something like that, I would maybe list Mount Everest as the location or something like that. So, you know, I think one person has commented that in the two and a half years that I've done podcasting, and I feel like they're doing something similar there. So that's that's just like a personal thing for me and you know, that that really, I think stands out as being something a little bit unique. I really, really enjoy that I think that's super super cool that they've done that. So now that we've had a look at ball off the ball, what they've done how they've done some cool things I think we'll go on to my own value for value section and the booster Graham lounge.
Welcome to the value for value goes to Graham central every time I love it, so we've got a couple of booster grams here but to get through last week, I had to record a date earlier unfortunately so I missed one of these that should have gotten the show. And who was it it was none other than Spencer so he sends through 5227 sets using fountain he says love that you're resurrecting the for the show here would love to chat sometime about it keep up the great work card. Hey, thank you, Mr. Spencer. And yes, we'll definitely get that chat going on once again I would just recommend you if you're if you're interested in ball after ball and especially Spencer and some of the cool things he's doing with music and podcasting and graphical design and podcasts like a I think it was a graphic novel and and using that in the value for value model. He is so deep into With that it's definitely worth checking out that episode so thank you so Spencer we have Peter again so we have the pod father the pod sage the god caster we need a clever nickname for the oz caster card down under you know the first time I read that I was like That's so stupid but reading it out actually voicing it on my you know what the odds caster that kind of. So that was 2083 sets and using fans and thank you so much Peter. Hey, man, I've had much, much worse nicknames than that as well. So I will 100% Take that one. But yeah, it needs to I won't drive it so other people need to use it for it to catch on. But as far as a first go, man, I love it. I think that's really cool. And then the last one we have here is brand I sell is once again using fountain 2500 SATs Oh, thank you my friend. And he says really love what you're doing with his show crier and great job. And so thank you, Brenda, he has the sleek podcast, s L I E k, which is strangest life I've ever known that the strangest life I've ever known with Brando and Haida I'll definitely become a like covering them on the value for value podcast at some point.
Once I get my ass in gear and start doing more, so thank you, everyone who's sent in through histograms. Like I was mentioning just before the in the value for value words, it's hard. It's it's the beginning nascent stage, it's not well established, there's only one real guideline, I suppose you could look to, which has no agenda, and, and how they have run their show there for Geez like a decade, or, and more using this model. And I think everyone is, you know, we needed that Trailblazer, the pioneer and Adam curry and John John C. Dvorak to do that. And now it's just about how everyone else is, is trying to implement it, how they're trying to spread the word and whatnot. And, yeah, I would just say, like I was, I was mentioning with, with what Spencer was doing, and just giving a, a not the full stack of how you do everything, go to a new podcast app.com and get a new one. And in particular, if you're listening to this show, and you're on somewhere, which doesn't have all of the podcasting 2.0 capabilities, you're missing out on things like chapter art, to the images.
So, you know, I'll have an image of the whole and Spencer's jeans in, in here. And, you know, links to things that I'm talking about all of these sorts of great and wonderful tools, you're missing out on that if you're if you're not there. So not only am I not requesting value for this in in this stage, I'm just saying, there's tons of value you're missing out on just by not using one of these better apps. So go to your new podcast apps.com or new to podcasts. Nude podcast apps.com and and choose one of one of the ones from that list. And you're more than likely not all of them have all these capabilities. So like Spencer mentioned, maybe it's better to pick three or four, try out a whole bunch of different ones. That's that's what I've been doing. I've got three or four on my phone and three or four on my saved on my bookmarks on on my laptop. And so yeah, just playing around with all of these ones and, and using them as is the best way of getting on the value for value wagon, which is not even the full value section, just the straight up value that I'm providing to you. So that that would be my recommendation for today. And I really do thank you for the time that you've spent here. Once again, I'm open to feedback of any sort. Whether it be show recommendations, whether it be how I can maybe ramble a little bit less, make it a bit tighter. Get rid of the clicking noises, get rid of the arms and ORs if there's those little verbal things, which are those verbal tics which I don't particularly notice because I just talk like that day on day on day. Any of those sorts of things are supremely helpful and I do really appreciate it whether it be via Instagram, or if you reach out through the Mere Mortals channels here you'll you'll get me so that's it for today. I hope you're having a fantastic wonderful bowling day. Wherever you are in the world Kyrin out
It is time to get lit. And I'm not just talking about the live item tag. Welcome, everyone to another value for value episode. My name is Kyrin. And this is the podcast where we dive deep into the value fair value model where we look at how you can jump on to this new way of monetizing of earning of being able to create and sustain a lifestyle without having to resort to the advertising model, which is boo not so fun. In this episode, Episode 23 We're going to be looking at another example of how a cool podcaster podcasters creating this for themselves how they're introducing this in a unique way to suit their own podcast. And we're just gonna dive right into it. We are going to look at bowl after bowl so bowl after bowl is hosted by Spencer and Dame DeLorean. So just from the titles you know that also from the no agenda world they have, I'm going to once again just do this in their own words because that's a little bit easier. So although bowl after bowl is a bigger dream for Lauren and Spencer the podcast started in 2014 out of Colombia, I believe they did about 25 ish episodes ranging through 2014 to 2015. Columbia Missouri as a as an outlet to share updates on the drug war and other items of interest and local and regional news show material included their adventures lobbying for normal and no RML and show me cannabis traveling to the SoCal High Times Cannabis Cup after winning free tickets on Twitter. Very cool. And interviewing interviewing Jeff marizanne ski from prison after a five year hiatus, so they started in 2020. Now, kicking the podcast off again, the dude got the show back up and running after a gracious guest appearance in the smoker on hogs story, the trendiest podcast in the universe, universe. And then there's just a couple of extra details here about how to connect with them. So they've been on them on my radar a little while, especially suspensive, because I've been diving, sort of communicating with him in the value for value world and also some cool stuff that he is doing with bringing, making the music industry better, which is a huge, a huge task in itself. And if you want to know more, I will be chatting with Spencer on the Mere Mortals podcast. So there'll be a link when that is out in the show notes here. So these these two, basically, they get together, they'll have a chat. They're up to I think 100 And something 165 episodes now. Yeah, 165. And they do a mix. So from what I can tell, there's cuz I haven't gone through each one of their episodes, I've got really two different formats, there's the two of them together, where they'll usually discuss sort of weed news, they'll talk about cool things that are happening in their life, just interesting things. So sort of like a little bit of everything. And these shows typically, typically go for hours. So two hours, three hours is a pretty standard time length, from what I can tell.
And then they have bowls with buds. And this is where they'll get on a guest. And they'll usually talk about weed related things, the marijuana, but also also, you know, it's not necessarily just related to that there'll be a lot of podcasting 2.0 News and things like that as well. So, meetups I've written, I've written here, meetups pig, but the fediverse Spencer's hole in his pants, that all sorts of things get thrown in on this. So let's go into the value for value implementation, what are some things that they're doing which not not that unique section yet, but just, you know the core principles of how to run value for value. And so typically what they do is, because their shows are so long they are and once again, I have yet to you know, go through hours and hours and hours of of multiple shows. So it's it's kind of hard to know exactly how they run it. But typically, from what I can tell around the half an hour mark, they will do their first real value for value section. So this is where they'll start with the treasurer. So in particular Pay Pal or the booster grams. And they will play a little clip here from one of the things that they do. And you can sort of see how they like to kick off this area and, and how they run it.
We do feel obligated to name and thank people who go a step further than passing the ball and since some sort of value in the form of time, talent and treasure, and we'd like to start the show off with the treasure and thank people and you know just kind of talk about what's coming in so that further ado I know that the Pay Pal this week we had one. So once again, nothing wrong with using PayPal especially Lately, in this world where hopefully, you know, in the future Bitcoin and the, these alternative currency payment systems will will become more dominant, especially with the use of the online culture and things like that, you know, like the standard, the standard system just seems to be very slow and sluggish. It'd be nice if we could do micro payments in Australian dollars, but that is not possible. So that's, that's fine. But obviously, you still need to recognize, yep, we're still going through that transition. And so Pay Pal, things like that, you know, whatever method you want to use.
That's, that's totally fine. Buller slide in. And that is a 333. Spot. Or buddy a one selves. Yeah, thanks, a one sauce. So thank you, sir. Yeah, and check out his podcast, the spoken word at the source.io. I will have a link in the show notes. There you have where we have such great ISOs from his show. So once again, this is a kind of cool thing where it's, you might just think, oh, you know, how should I thank them? What should I do? This is where it's, they've created obviously a connection with this, this guy, I think it was a one south and he is not only just provided the booster ground, but it's also like a little bit of a plug for his own show, even though he didn't say anything that was a sorry, that wasn't even a booster ground. That was just a PayPal. And yet, there's this sort of linking feedback where it's every everyone's the more you jump into this community, the the deeper you start to go.
So that can almost be a warning sign. Like if you don't, if you don't have, if you're on a tight schedule, perhaps not looking at the value for value is the best option. Because you're you tend to get sucked in kind of deep, we also have been big proponents with running out front with the scissors. And what I mean by that is podcasting 2.0, the cutting edge of how you can in real time share value with your favorite shows us your favorite podcasts that are value enabled, all you got to do is take off all your clothes and go to nude podcast apps.com. And all of the podcast apps there that support the value tag are what you're looking for, click Apps at the top and click value. And you'll get a list of all these different apps that you can try out, try several of them out, you know, see which one you liked the best.
This is helpful, because this is something that I'm perhaps a little bit guilty of where I forget how many steps are required still to really get a new person who's listening into to be able to do all of this. So this is, you know, a fairly decent explanation. And if you really wanted to, you could probably break that down into like another 10 steps, because there are so many areas along the way where someone can get lost, typically it gets to the point of I've made for me personally, it was not the downloading of the apps not choosing one. Because most people know how to download an app and whatnot, it's the getting money from your bank account converted into bitcoin on the Lightning Network, which is just excruciatingly painful. Now, that was excruciatingly painful for me. When I was first doing this about a year ago, I'm it's gotten a little bit better from what I can tell, but it is still still many steps. And it's still very dependent on where you are in the world. Here in Australia, it's very different than the recommended way that you can do it in, for example, America where suspension and Dame DeLorean. And this is where you have to find that mix, I guess between how much advice you want to give and how much is is not going to be useful because they could say things like use the cash, app use, et cetera, et cetera. And then I'm over here in Australia going I can't do any of that. So you know, I think at the moment, everyone's still trying to find their, their general I guess like method of how much detailed info to give and, and how much hand holding and things like that. To be honest, I think if anyone reached out to any of us, it's like, I'll show you how to send me through through the histograms and Satoshis like I'll spend the time to do that. But yet doing that in a clean polished manner on your show is hard and I think they did a pretty good job that of that of just, you know, the basic steps here's the first step you have to do is just get a get a good podcast app just you know, get get one way you can see chapters in it or transcripts or the you know, the ability to link and have the you're the person tag so you can click on the link down below, down below and it'll send you places all of these sorts of things. That's it. It's almost like just getting that first step is is, is, is useful. And so I do a very similar thing, which is go to this website and just get a new app and try it out pod verse just added boosting abilities. I haven't got into try the boost part of it yet. So I'll try to do some of that this week, had my hands so full with work stuff lately, but getting back on that horse, and riding, but the beautiful thing about this is you can send tiny little pieces of Bitcoin, and you can attach a message to them. And that's what we call booster grams. And that's what these boosters here did that I'm about to read starting off with a couple that came in after we signed off with the Ben roses. And the first over that weekend section was a 1337 Delete boost from mere mortals podcast. Oh, he was boost in Episode 163, the boss battle and he's asking, Is there somewhere that we can see this infamous jeans hole with winky face or without disappointed face as attached.
So I totally forgot to that I did take a picture of the jeans. So this is just a reference to when I was listening to that show. And he was giving us a pretty funny story about how he ended up having this massive hole in his jeans and could have potentially been walking around out in public, showing his bare ass cheek off without realizing it. And then beautiful enough in the show notes, if you go to that episode of this episode, he's he's attached a picture of, of, of the genes with the retina and it's a pretty decent sized home as well. So that's, I suppose just a fairly emblematic example of how they'll implement the value for value. They do a whole lot of other things as well. There are constant pep rings through their show of other podcasters it's sort of like the informal network, there's no, there's no like board meetings of Yeah, I'm going to promote your show, you're going to promote mine.
This is how we do it, which I find distasteful when it's when it's, you know, a straight cut for an ad read or like an other podcast host read me personally, I don't like that. But when it goes and flows in with a show like this does. And that's that's a, you know, another way of providing value in almost like the ecosystem in a way it's sort of, you know, it's not even all scratch your back, you scratch mine, it's, it's just sort of human courtesy. And, and niceness just rises to the forefront. There's no, there's no implicit like, it has to be value for value. It's like, Oh, I'll provide some value. And not man, these people are cooler doing cool things over there. I like that podcast, I'll talk about it on my show. So yeah, that's a couple of ways there of how they do it. Now what's something unique as well, which Spencer and Lauren to, I'm going to play a little section here, which I think is is something I haven't seen before and which I find quite intriguing.
You can go to ball africa.com, click on Listen Live, to get to the stream, you get to the bowl, the IRC chat, all the lovely bowlers in there, and everybody's produced everybody's given value energy, even if you're out there listening and you just pass the ball to the next guy. Like it's not peer pressure, it's just your turn, you know, yeah, that's perhaps the simplest form of value, we always open it up because it's important we open the show up with it. And some people in the past have been like man, maybe don't do that. But we tried a couple of ways. And you know, we'd like to soft open with like catching people up on the happenings. But before we get into a meat and potatoes of our content, we really like to thank the people that brought it to you, you know, it just seems appropriate to do and that's why we do it that way.
So what the unique thing there is that they really link it to the the concept of this show as well. So bowl after bowl you know it's a it's a show about weed marijuana smoking, etc etc. And but that's a you know, a common parlance and those terms, you know, pass the ball. And applying that to the concept of value for value I think makes a lot of sense in the for that show because you know, who was naturally going to get drawn to a show called bowl after bowl where the cover art image is a picture of like a mouth with some lips smoke coming out and a green marijuana leaf. It's probably people who will be involved in that culture of some sort. And so it's one of the hardest things about value for value is the explanation of it.
You know why? Well one as well being confident enough to saying like, Hey, I am providing value here and I'm requesting it in return. That's that's pretty big hurdle to overcome. But once you've done that, it starts to get into the area of okay strategy. How can I explain this In the simplest, or maybe the funniest, or the most interesting way possible, and their way of doing it, where it's linking to a concept, which their audience would already know, realm, you know, really well, that is being the sort of sharing of of a joint and passing it from one person to the next that the the feelings that are evoked by doing that. And then, you know, putting that to the concept of value for value and saying, okay, you know, this is the similar sort of thing, this is what we do, and how we request that you show that show, that sort of spirit that you do when you're with your friends and smoking and sharing a joint, you know, apply that here to my podcast. So I think that's really cool. And they I didn't include it in this section here. And I can't remember exactly where it was.
But they've, they've, they've talked about this in many other ways, like not caring about the numbers of downloads, because you wouldn't pass the ball as well to someone who is not cool. So once again, this is another concept where, you know, if you're at a party or something, having a joint with friends, you might not pass it to the dude who's been an asshole across the room. And this is sort of similar to their show, which is like, they don't care. They don't want everyone because, you know, there's a lot of assholes when you get everyone. So the emphasis is really on the sharing within their communities, which is very cool. Now another thing that they do and if you're checking out the image at the moment, you'll you'll see this which is they put in their show notes. Right at the front, it just says value for value. Thank you to ball after ball episode 165 Executive Producers, Justin a one source current down, hey, hey, half hat lavish Phoenix Burberry Thor, the one that hammer, see Dubs. The list goes on people who they used for tonight's intro music. And that's something that I've sort of done in my answer in my own show in Mere Mortals. Once again, the executive producers, this is a concept they've taken from no agenda. But one of the coolest things was if you go to the website, where they've got their this particular episode on, there's a link on my name. And that link goes directly to my my website, which was just like, Whoa, what the fuck? How cool is that? So not only is it you know, here's, here's just a, you know, a shout out to Thanks for for appearing on the show, you know, they've gone to the extra effort of directing someone who would, you know, the one in a million person who would want to see like, oh, Carindale What's this, click on that name, and it takes it directly to my website, which I find so, so cool that that's, you know, that that little extra effort that they've put in there, I really do appreciate that really do think that's super cool. And, you know, this is sort of something that I do a lot of my own show as well, which is I will go to the extra effort of including a funny name for the location of where the podcast was taken. So if I do an episode on how to know, the topic of like, the pinnacle of success or something like that, I would maybe list Mount Everest as the location or something like that. So, you know, I think one person has commented that in the two and a half years that I've done podcasting, and I feel like they're doing something similar there. So that's that's just like a personal thing for me and you know, that that really, I think stands out as being something a little bit unique. I really, really enjoy that I think that's super super cool that they've done that. So now that we've had a look at ball off the ball, what they've done how they've done some cool things I think we'll go on to my own value for value section and the booster Graham lounge.
Welcome to the value for value goes to Graham central every time I love it, so we've got a couple of booster grams here but to get through last week, I had to record a date earlier unfortunately so I missed one of these that should have gotten the show. And who was it it was none other than Spencer so he sends through 5227 sets using fountain he says love that you're resurrecting the for the show here would love to chat sometime about it keep up the great work card. Hey, thank you, Mr. Spencer. And yes, we'll definitely get that chat going on once again I would just recommend you if you're if you're interested in ball after ball and especially Spencer and some of the cool things he's doing with music and podcasting and graphical design and podcasts like a I think it was a graphic novel and and using that in the value for value model. He is so deep into With that it's definitely worth checking out that episode so thank you so Spencer we have Peter again so we have the pod father the pod sage the god caster we need a clever nickname for the oz caster card down under you know the first time I read that I was like That's so stupid but reading it out actually voicing it on my you know what the odds caster that kind of. So that was 2083 sets and using fans and thank you so much Peter. Hey, man, I've had much, much worse nicknames than that as well. So I will 100% Take that one. But yeah, it needs to I won't drive it so other people need to use it for it to catch on. But as far as a first go, man, I love it. I think that's really cool. And then the last one we have here is brand I sell is once again using fountain 2500 SATs Oh, thank you my friend. And he says really love what you're doing with his show crier and great job. And so thank you, Brenda, he has the sleek podcast, s L I E k, which is strangest life I've ever known that the strangest life I've ever known with Brando and Haida I'll definitely become a like covering them on the value for value podcast at some point.
Once I get my ass in gear and start doing more, so thank you, everyone who's sent in through histograms. Like I was mentioning just before the in the value for value words, it's hard. It's it's the beginning nascent stage, it's not well established, there's only one real guideline, I suppose you could look to, which has no agenda, and, and how they have run their show there for Geez like a decade, or, and more using this model. And I think everyone is, you know, we needed that Trailblazer, the pioneer and Adam curry and John John C. Dvorak to do that. And now it's just about how everyone else is, is trying to implement it, how they're trying to spread the word and whatnot. And, yeah, I would just say, like I was, I was mentioning with, with what Spencer was doing, and just giving a, a not the full stack of how you do everything, go to a new podcast app.com and get a new one. And in particular, if you're listening to this show, and you're on somewhere, which doesn't have all of the podcasting 2.0 capabilities, you're missing out on things like chapter art, to the images.
So, you know, I'll have an image of the whole and Spencer's jeans in, in here. And, you know, links to things that I'm talking about all of these sorts of great and wonderful tools, you're missing out on that if you're if you're not there. So not only am I not requesting value for this in in this stage, I'm just saying, there's tons of value you're missing out on just by not using one of these better apps. So go to your new podcast apps.com or new to podcasts. Nude podcast apps.com and and choose one of one of the ones from that list. And you're more than likely not all of them have all these capabilities. So like Spencer mentioned, maybe it's better to pick three or four, try out a whole bunch of different ones. That's that's what I've been doing. I've got three or four on my phone and three or four on my saved on my bookmarks on on my laptop. And so yeah, just playing around with all of these ones and, and using them as is the best way of getting on the value for value wagon, which is not even the full value section, just the straight up value that I'm providing to you. So that that would be my recommendation for today. And I really do thank you for the time that you've spent here. Once again, I'm open to feedback of any sort. Whether it be show recommendations, whether it be how I can maybe ramble a little bit less, make it a bit tighter. Get rid of the clicking noises, get rid of the arms and ORs if there's those little verbal things, which are those verbal tics which I don't particularly notice because I just talk like that day on day on day. Any of those sorts of things are supremely helpful and I do really appreciate it whether it be via Instagram, or if you reach out through the Mere Mortals channels here you'll you'll get me so that's it for today. I hope you're having a fantastic wonderful bowling day. Wherever you are in the world Kyrin out