Not just content with revolutionising podcasting, how about music as well?
In Ep #36 I am covering how Sir Spencer and Able Kirby implement v4v on their show ‘AbleKraft’. The unique aspect they bring is a way of using this as a feeder show to link to their main project, an album they released as a value for value podcast called ‘Stay Awhile’ by Able and The Wolf. A creative way of keeping the feedback loop whilst not messing with the format of how a music album is normally structured.
A big shoutout to Petar The Encourager and Oscar Merry for supporting this week, amazing people for sure!
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In Ep #36 I am covering how Sir Spencer and Able Kirby implement v4v on their show ‘AbleKraft’. The unique aspect they bring is a way of using this as a feeder show to link to their main project, an album they released as a value for value podcast called ‘Stay Awhile’ by Able and The Wolf. A creative way of keeping the feedback loop whilst not messing with the format of how a music album is normally structured.
A big shoutout to Petar The Encourager and Oscar Merry for supporting this week, amazing people for sure!
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Unknown:
Not just content with revolutionising podcasting. How about we do music as well? Welcome, dear friends, to another episode of the Value for Value Show My name is Kyrin, host of The Mere Mortals and the Mere Mortals Book reviews podcasts. But I also do this one where I examine other people's podcast and how they are implementing the value for value model. So perhaps some things that they are doing uniquely that we could take, steal, borrow for our own shows, and then also maybe how they're revolutionising the music industry at the same time. So yes, today we have AbleKraft by Sir Spencer and Able Kirby.
Those two names will be familiar to you because Spencer was one of the hosts of the Bowl after Bowl and Able Kirby of Rare Encounter. Now, this is going to be slightly different because not only will I be looking at this podcast, AbleKraft, but also I guess technically it is a podcast that they released called Stay a While by Able and The Wolf. But this was more of a music band formation. And basically to to explain that, I'll have to explain what this show is. So the what they've written down for this show in the in the kind of description is music production with avant garde distribution.
So basically, this was a show where they examine the process of how they were creating an album. So Spencer played drums, Able Kirby sang and also played guitar and perhaps some other instruments. I'm not a musician, so I can't tell of all the different things that were going on in this actual album, but they were in the process of creating this album and they wanted to release it in a different way rather than having to go through Spotify and through, you know, the kind of standard music production. And I'll be reading out a kind of manifesto that they released, which explains why they why they did this in a in a short while.
So the they started this, geez, if I go to the very first episode, it looks like this started on the 16th of the seven 2021 and they released that album on December 25th of 2021. So about nine months ago. And leading up to that, they had weekly episodes and that was, I guess, what you could call season one to the release of their album. And then since then they've been roughly, yeah, every fortnight, every month releasing another episode. And I guess season two, if you want to call it that, is more focused around the many projects that they're working on, how the album actually went.
So kind of like deconstruction of the process and yeah, more I know. So Spence is working on a music app, so you know, thoughts around that basically still related to kind of the intersection between music distribution and, and podcasting. So the length of the show is typically 30 to 45 minutes, sometimes get up to an hour and format wise it's mostly those two and usually they're remote. Both of them are located in the US. So I think for a couple of episodes they did get together because they were by happenstance, kind of in the same location, but mostly remote and every now and then with a guest.
But it's very free flowing and they'll explore all sorts of side topics and whatnot sections wise for, for how the actual podcast was structured is usually they would start off with the work on the album. So how the music process was going, the recording of tracks, MIDI complications, the, you know, sound stuff every now and then a little bit of what's going on in their lives and kind of the mini projects. They also would have a large section talking about podcasting 2.0 because that was very particular and very interesting to them and which was part of the reason why they kind of formed the band was because they wanted to try releasing music in a totally new way, which had never been done before.
It was so they would explore, you know, kind of the tags, how this would maybe be useful for them or not useful for them. And then afterwards, now they've they talk more about kind of the hackathon that's coming up, general gossip and just the overall news that's going on in podcasting 2.0 that have a value for value section, not necessarily at the end, usually just somewhere within and then I've just written here miscellaneous, So just other other things that would randomly, randomly come up and this is reflected in their show titles. So they've got things like no go, no girlfriends were harmed.
We are the chickens, my dude Erotica sister to cyber buskers steering the collective takes a lot of spoons there. Their titles reflect somewhat what what they're going on within the episode and funny things. Now I did want to before I play a little section of them, just so you can get a feel for their voices, read out the manifesto that they've got, or at least part of it for the Valley for Value section of Able and the Wolf. So this was the band they created. And the album that they released was called Stay a While. So says Stay a While is a value for Value rock album that is published digitally using the podcasting to point or value infrastructure in the current period.
Paradigm of music publication out to submit to streaming services to monetise, and that's in equities. Their music and the payment and the payout amounts to fractions of a cent per stream. Their music is purposefully undervalued by these corporations so that they can pay artists as little as possible. It was our view that through the power of the internet, they small and independent artist. Finally has access to terrible one sided airplay deals which used to be reserved for superstars. Woohoo! Yay! Go technology. And then if the streaming corporations have their way, nothing will change.
Then they basically talk about the podcasting index, why that they chose to use this and why that they think this value system is much more accessible and is is more fair in a way. And how the overlap between perhaps the split payments works just as well for splitting payments between the different artists involved with their album. So they would typically have someone who created a and chapter art, I guess you could call it that, but also an album cover or a a single cover for each individual track that was released. And then they could put that as part of a split.
And if I go to the actual feed, the source of truth for for this, you can actually see that they have all sorts of things going off to Burberry, to Lauren Rose to cotton gin, to people who have created the album art that they created. So I'll play a little section here and this is from about 9 minutes in of the title called My Nude Erotic Sister. And this was just before the release of the album, which would be happening the next day. And you can get a taste for their voices. As far as we know, this is the first attempt to from scratch from the start, make an album geared exclusively for podcasting 2.0 protocol, and it's a revolutionary concept.
It's a totally different way to think about owning the production, owning the publishing, and choosing who to collaborate with, you know? Yeah, And without any middleman or without any, you know, without getting stuck, we didn't ask permission to do this, which correct the first thing that I'm that's my number one takeaway from podcasting 2.0 and the Lightning Network in general. Yeah, I never asked anyone if it was okay for me to open a node. I never had to make an account anywhere. I never had to ask anyone if, you know, if I could host my well, like, you know, it's, it's, it's just we just did it, you know, just go outside and you sing a song in front of people.
You know, you don't have to submit to Spotify or ask, you know, you know, all these other like if you were trying to get an agent or something like that to pedalling away or somewhere, right? Yeah, She didn't have to do any of that. It's all completely autonomous. You can do it yourself. Yeah. So you can see the ethos there and the overlap between kind of value for value and podcasting to point out and what they want to do. So, you know, they didn't want anyone to be telling them what they can and can't do. And this is why it's fantastic to have a system such as Bitcoin where it's permissionless and peer to peer.
You can just, you know, send money whichever way you want. And there's no gatekeepers and whatnot. And, you know, releasing the music how they want to did not have to ask for permission for any labels or for anyone to do this. And we'll get into shortly about how this has actually worked out to be quite more successful for them. But that's in the coming up something unique section. So for the value for value of implementation for this show, I'll say it's relatively simple, and this is because I would I would say AbleKraft itself.
The podcast is kind of a it's a it's a feeder in a way. It's not it's not their main objective. The you know, this isn't the main podcast that they're doing. Both of them have two other podcasts, and this is almost like a behind the scenes group meeting for a band discussion if you want. And they just happened to record it and put it online. So in terms of the value for value pitch, you know, it's not the biggest part of their show because this is kind of an incidental thing. So they still do Boosta Grams and they still do usually explain what value for value is.
But I don't have really anything more to add to this book because like I said, it's kind of the it's not it's not their main gig. It's not the main thing they're focusing on. The main thing was, was the album. But for the album it was obviously a lot more complex. So this is where they did have multiple people coming in and, and, you know, contributing to the process. So this is where. Okay, All right. I'm going to have to add some splits and or, you know, it's not I have to I want to I want to add splits into the people who have helped me out.
They also did spend a lot of time in, like I've said before, kind of the main areas of of where people understand value for value. So the sort of no agenda area, but also on podcasting 2.0 are talking about their album somewhat hyping it up and whatnot and, and I guess generating the interest and also talking with other artists and kind of onboarding them, implementing them, showing them, Hey, this is how you can actually do this. So I will play a boostagram section just so you get a feel for, for what they do there. And then after that we'll get onto something unique.
So the boostagram said they're reading out from here or from an episode called Recycling the Planet. So this is one of the latest episodes. So this was in, I believe that September of of sorry, that'll be July 9th, and this was about 46 minutes into an hour long show.
[00:11:44] Unknown:
Well, I get some boostagrams pulled up I was gonna I was just opening up very nice Why did you hit words you knock us off. We're starting from two weeks ago I think two weeks ago. I have a21212 sets to a2a2 from boobs. Booburry who says, Oh, fuck, yeah. You're going to make me want to do it. Yeah. Thank you. Those for Borg acquisition for that episode, it looks like. Yes. At a fountain. There I see 11111 SATs from Harvhat from our hot or not episode. Lucky for an after the fact boost. Oh, I see it. I see it right there. Very nice. Six Harvard.
That's why he's on the leaderboard. Harvard now, I think blueberries still at the top because I read that Hart had made it to the second place. Now the unknown boosting maniac, I don't think counts as a second place because it's a it's an aggregate of many unknown people. So Harvard, I think is is is the bananas Legion is a non his legion maybe we should have maybe we should have some kind of collective identity that everyone could set their name to and boost. Oh yeah, that's the Kilroy booster. So I burst. Yes. All the people who don't want to be named, you know, we had 2,222 sats from Mere Mortals podcast.
Yes, a little rolodex there for ducks at a fountain. Yeah. And yeah, he says. Nice to hear you two back at the mic again. Any chance we can get a sneak peek at the draft version of the logo? My curiosity is peaking. I think he just wants to know if we got the EMU look right. I've had it in my at the top of my show notes page for the last three episodes, so I've been looking at it all the time. I see it. Yeah. And it's in my it's the little icon for, for AbleKraft 32. So I think we can find a way to add to that out. Maybe. Yeah. You're okay with it?
I'm fine with it. Yeah. It still needs colouring it. And I haven't since we discussed it on the show, I haven't done any work on it at all. So yeah, it still looks like it did when you said Yeah, change the blue. Change the blue. Oh I forgot about that. I completely forgot about that. Yeah. I've seen that's the last one you see. That's the least. That's, that's the last for me as well. All right. Well thank you Kyrin Mere Mortals podcast. I've been listening to that too, a little more than I. I do, by the way. Yeah.
He's been cranking up some good stuff lately. For sure. He's been. I never notice how often he published. Yeah, a every other day. I was like, Look at it. Oh, there's a lot. Then check that out.
[00:14:23] Unknown:
Blushing over here. So very kind of for them to say that. But you could see they also had some little hints there related to other stuff they were doing. So they did have a kind of leaderboard, too, to kind of, you know, show, oh, yeah, these are the people who have been contributing the most and we really appreciate it of that, which is a a I don't know if I stole it from them or if I'd stole that from other people, but that's a big predominant thing on our website that my my co-host one and I like to show the Mere Mortals podcast and the supporters page meremortalspodcast.com slash supporter for those who are interested. So that was their main value for value implementation.
And you know, asking and thank you people for contributing and also for, you know, being able to share stuff related to the cover art and images and things like that. What's something unique that these guys do? Well, I mean, to be honest, I feel like the whole the whole project is pretty unique. But I would say it's mostly the idea of having a feed, a show that goes into your main project. And this is particularly important for, I would say, someone who is creating something as complex as an album. Obviously you're going to have to put a lot of time into, you know, not only recording but then tweaking it and then rerecording certain parts, which they had to do multiple times to, you know, getting everyone together, getting the, the, the, the titles, the images, how the lyrics.
There's a lot of work that needs to go into that. And you could, you know, somewhat relate this to how some people do podcast episodes. Now for me and for this, you know I can crank this out and roughly I'd say all up, it's probably about 3 hours, including the time spent listening and whatnot to that, to the shows and then recording and editing. But that probably took hundreds of hours for them to create an album and put that out. And if you're doing that in a value for value way and just going, okay, here it is. And with an album, you know, it's kind of not standard practice to hear.
At the end of a song. People say, Oh, by the way, you know, I created all this value for you. I'd really appreciate it if you could send it back. So you probably need to get a little bit more creative rather than just doing a big release and just hoping that people will come to it. So I'd sort of say the idea of a brooding artist working in the in the darkness, making a masterpiece is kind of a risky as hell strategy and probably disheartening for them because they're not getting that continuous feedback from their audience. Now, maybe this works nice if you're a somewhat Batman Bruce Wayne character and you're already sitting on a couple of cool billion and you know, then you can just be the Batman, do an amazing thing, save all these people.
And then it's like, Oh my God, Batman, now we value you. But if you're releasing an album like Stay a While, you probably do need a show like this. And this is getting us to that idea of having a small side gig that maybe isn't your your big kind of pay off. But it's generating the interest, generating the the feedback that if you do have people who are interested, much like I was when I first started listening in, I was like, What are these two crazy guys doing and why they creating this album? And it was funny because I didn't really know what they're up to, but I still kind of and I didn't understand a lot of it.
So we're talking about tags and technical things and music, but I really just did enjoy having that, I suppose ability to listen and see what they're up to. And it did generate hype for myself. And on Christmas Day, which is, you know, it's the kind of important day for me and my family, I still took the time out of that day to listen to their album and send them a boost and, you know, appreciate what they had done and why they were doing it, that that's a you know, if you'd asked me a year ago, would I have randomly taken out GS How much half an hour out of a Christmas Day to listen to something like that, to random guys on the Internet have produced?
I would have said how? No, there's no chance that it's happening. And yet because they had this AbleKraft podcast, because they had this little feedback mechanism, which wasn't their main thing, you know, I would if I had to guess and I'll play a clip in a section in a second of the kind of success or what what they gained after it in terms of, you know, not only the, the feedback, but monetary monetarily from the release of the album. I would say that the album probably has garnered more, you know, income coming in for them than the actual AbleKraft themselves.
Maybe I I'm actually not too 100% sure of that, but certainly there was a period where they had this big release and that was when, you know, they got this instantaneous of huge amount of value rushing in because they had kind of built up the hype and built up the. Mm. The that already kind of preloaded it all this value in the AbleKraft podcast so that when they then dropped another huge section of of value i.e. probably the first depends how technical you get they were you know, even though that was the second I guess people to release an album on as a as in the kind of the podcasting medium but they did a lot of things uniquely for themselves and in particular the splits and in particular the chapter art and images and whatnot. The that that kind of big release of value I think would have only been successful and they've only been a success, successful as they have been because they had this kind of smaller fee to show, which was keeping the audience interested and updated for it.
So if you think you've doing something similar, perhaps you have a podcast which is, you know, takes 40 hours to produce a single episode. Maybe you do want a smaller one, a behind the scenes one, which could have kind of keep that ticking along, keep that feedback loop going so that when you do drop a big one, it's not like it's just out of nowhere. There was an actual build up and hype to it. So with that being said, I'll play a clip here from the episode called We Are the Chickens, which was a month after the release of their 2021, December 25th, Christmas Day album release, and this is about 8 minutes in other artists.
[00:21:26] Unknown:
The light bulb comes on where they're like, Wait, I could be putting music on this thing too. And that was sort of for me, like a secondary to just having a use case out there. Like the primary goal of having the use case to me was just to kind of open the gates or, you know, be a beacon of like, Hey, everybody can be publishing this way and just trying to get artists inspired to do it. Also, you know, you could be streaming sets to albums also. And I mean, I don't know from where I'm sitting, I think that we easily beat bands of higher calibre, what they would pull in from a Spotify deal.
Absolutely. Already. Did I tell you the numbers on that on mean Spotify? Yeah I remember you telling me, but you have to run it by me again. It's been a while. I'm trying to remember the exact number, but yeah, but I did that calculation where I looked at the number of plays versus what we were getting in stats and it was something like a factor of ten. It was ridiculous. It's much more efficient. Yes. So if we put our if we had put our music on Spotify now at the scale we're at, no one knows about able in the wolf unless we tell them to go to ableandthewolf.com It's a very niche and we even have the extra hurdle of you could only give us money if you stream stats, which is hard compared to a fire which every Joe Blow on the street.
You know, if I if I go and look at the parking lot through my window, I bet about half of the cars there will play Spotify through them. Somebody up during the next week. And so even with that extra crutch, we still blew it. The model out of the water. Yeah it's incredible The ease with which we outperformed. You know what I'm talking about? Just like what a what? Like a b tier mainstream band would make on Spotify, which is next to nothing, you know? And next and we're talking about next to nothing for hundreds of thousands of plays. Yeah.
And then we're coming in in we're getting like I'm looking at we get I see all the 508 boost from cotton gin right at the beach December 24. You know, people were pumping a thousand sets. All Yeah, thousands. That's for this. Sometimes they have messages on them. Yeah. Well, we got Merry. Oscar's is having a coffee on Christmas morning. Enjoying this. Yeah. And just look at skin and for I don't know if you wanted to start at the 28th and do the boostagrams now. Yeah. Let's just walk through it. Let's see what we might have to say. We might as well take a look because I know we had our last show on December 27th.
Yeah. So the 28 starts with 5000 sats from Sir Elma, who boosted stay a while like wine, the track like wine saying this song kicked so much ass. Thank you for your courage. Wow. I and then I don't see that my thing Interesting. Oh, interesting indeed. I'll have to pull the record, see if it got split. Right. The first one I see is from envy. And for VIX like wine, which is for you 204 Vex. Oh, well, I've got a few between there and two. I've got to lead Boost 1337 from Chip 98. Yep, I got those. Nice. That's at a fountain. I got 100 sets from blank for like wine. Yep.
4200 sets from and for vex for like wine streaming music to my ears. Streaming v4v sets back up the pipe this is how music was intended to be produced, delivered and enjoyed. Boost that wave. You better be streaming sat. That's right. We got a stack of ducks for the artwork. Beautiful v4x2. So that's another to do to Yelp and that's first to stay well track while to point out again even though people who have been following this are well aware but those stats are divided due to the artwork artists. So when people boost and they're excited about the artwork, the artists are directly rewarded out of their split.
With that.
[00:25:33] Unknown:
BAM just highlighted everything. I was basically talking about. And I'm just going to do a little quick math here. From what they said, just from that section, which funnily enough wasn't the total amount because they did have more afterwards and the amounts were much higher. But the amount of sets that they just talked about there was just we'll just say roughly $10 us. So nothing, nothing super crazy. But if I go and look at how much Spotify pays, it's about 0.003 or to 0.005 per stream on average. And so just doing a little bit of quick math ten divided by and I'll just go for the middle .004 that need about 2500 plays to get the equivalent.
And that is not how much they would have been getting. If you're telling individual people to check out your music, they don't know 2500 people. And so I think that's just a perfect example. Like they said, it was ten X and I would probably even say it's maybe even more than that then even just even just monetarily was what they got. Let alone all the other additional benefits you get from being able to have all the music directly under your control, to have the royalties going to everyone, to not having tons of middlemen taking it in and sort of diluting the pie for Spotify.
It says about 70% to the artists, 30% to Spotify. There's just randomly looking on Google as well. So who knows how true that is. I would be inclined to think it's maybe more to Spotify as a favour, but who knows? Who knows? And I heard all of that I think just goes to show that these guys created a very cool, unique experience, not only with the album themselves, but also the way that they went about kind of promoting it and highlighting that with their show AbleKraft. So very, very cool. And I suggest that you go check out either of the shows so the podcast AbleKraft or the album itself called Stay a While by Able and The Wolf.
So with all of that being said and all those Instagrams and whatnot, I'm going to go on to my very own Boostagram lounge. Welcome to the Value for Value Boosta agram Lounge. Okay. Well, the sad puppy works because it got me an extra couple of boost come in and woohoo. So we've got a big one here, a huge one here from Petar and that's 25,000 SATs. And he says boostagrams are still very new. So don't get too discouraged if it takes some time to catch on. But as an self-appointed expert on being an early adopter of amazing ideas, Bitcoin plus podcasting is a winner, exclamation mark, 100%.
That was out of Fountain as well. Thank you, first of all, Petar, very much for that. And I also have to say that I might have been wrong about the demasiado bueno. I've never heard about that before, but apparently you could say that in Spanish. And so I'm willing to retract my my previous comments on his on his boosta gram from from last week. So yeah 100% man um I'm look I'm not too discouraged by it It's just every now and then you look and go, oh man, am I doing something crap? Am I not making this exciting enough? Which is true.
You do need that kind of self-reflection sometimes to, to really dive in. But now I do appreciate it, man and comments like that, you know, keep me encouraged. Although with that being said, there's some news coming up that might not be as encouraging. But stay tuned for the next section. I've got the 3750 SATs from Merry Oscar, also the known as Oscar Merry, the creator of Fountain or co-creator. And he says a podcast about a podcast about podcasting, another great episode Kyrin in particular. I think Podland is a great example where they had a few episodes without Boosts but kept at it and are now receiving more regular support.
Yeah, 100%, man. So you just got to keep at it sometimes just in success and good things don't come without hard work and doing that hard work upfront as well. You can't get the success. And then do the hard work afterwards. It doesn't, it doesn't work like that. So yeah, I, I remember that section where, where James was, was getting a little bit discouraged, but they've pushed through and now they, they definitely have come out the better, better on the other side and are receiving a lot more support and as you know boostagramming and bitcoin and podcasting continue to grow and continue to catch on.
It's just going to happen more and more. The last one was 833 sets from myself, and that was because I wanted to do a test boost to make sure that James and and Sam both got it because I was experimenting with a new split with Sam to a node kind of set up I hadn't used before. So I wanted to make sure that actually went through and that it was happening in the right way. So that is my boostagram section. Thank you very much for the two. Well, three people, I guess, if you count myself, who contributed and I very much do appreciate that. And it yeah that that sort of feedback is essential for me to to know how I'm doing.
If you're enjoying the shows and if it just additional comments that can be put in. So with all of that being said, I'll get on to my value for value section and the big call out for today is I would just encourage you to check out the chat I actually had with Sir Spencer on the Mere Mortals podcast. So this was on episode 75. You'll see the link clickable in the in the chapter art if you're in or in the in the chapters, if you've got a decent podcasting app. And I would actually recommend checking out the breez app because they, they highlight it very clearly on the screen and when you click on it, you stay within the app as well to wherever the link goes. So very, very cool.
I actually do like that functionality a lot. So this section now is also going to be a little bit of housekeeping. So there's two points I wanted to come up with. The first is the news, maybe some sad news for those, which is that I'm thinking of winding down the value for value season two. I'm noticing and you might have noticed that this episode was released a day later. One reason for that was because my Saturday got a very busy then, so I decided to move it on to the Sunday. But also kind of my motivation for it is starting to wane a little bit.
I'm feeling I'm finding it harder and harder to really pick out unique aspects that shows are doing. And I'm also just wanting to create a bit more time to focus on some other things. So I feel like I've had a pretty good run so far. And the first season was about 18, 17 episodes and this is going to probably be about equal to that. So not to worry, I'll still do. I'm planning on two more episodes. I think, and then I'll, I'll wind up for this season and yeah, probably take another last time. I had a four month break before I really kicked it off.
And yeah, I'm probably thinking about roughly the same thing and I'd maybe come back with a new format. One of the things I was thinking of was also starting to explain how you could use the tags a bit more. So the podcasting 2.0 tags, probably still doing reviews of other shows, but maybe not make it the the core aspect like it has been in season two. I'm willing I'm willing to to play around. But the idea for season two actually came from Oscar Merry and from a couple of other people who recommended the same thing. So that was a you know, if you I'll still be checking out the the boostagram and the and the value for value section on this podcast will still stay up.
So if you're interested and want to reach out and give a suggestion and whatnot, always feel free to hit me up in whatever way you want. But you know, the boost agram is always the most appreciated. I really like them. The other one is you might notice that in the split set I've actually bumped up the splits for Mr. Sir Spencer and for Mr. Able Kirby. And that's because they I'd actually done a kind of DJ set with them with that music for one of my episodes, but I didn't actually have the split functionality created in on my main show, Mere Mortals. And so I wasn't able to really thank them in the adequate way.
So basically I bumped up the splits and I've also included right here for those of you, a little bonus for those who got all the way to the end. My favourite song from the album called Making Beans. I haven't actually asked them prehand if I, if I'm allowed to do this. They have let me in the past. Let me let me play that music and I should say now, but I'm putting it right at the end. So if I need to, I'll cut it out if they if they want me to. But just as a reward for those who have been playing to the end and as a big thanks to so Spencer and Able Kirby for doing this, for creating this kind of completely new method of releasing music and and having a success right out of the gate.
I think that's really, really cool. So to take us away today, we have making beans by the band Able and The Wolf from that Able from their album Stay Awhile.
[00:35:41] Unknown:
I Can't Sit Still I Can’t sit still well, they're talking to me, but I can't know what it means. It's hard to pay attention when you're busy making beans. Cuz upstairs. I'm busy making beans. And I'm still. Preoccupied, you know what I mean? And all these people come to see that. Shout out some. More, or that's a better. Way to be. How to live in a home. In a tree scalp of millions on screen. I mean, all these people sure were nice to me when they dragged me down drawn me up ran me out of steam I don’t wear no underwear And nothing calls me.
Cuz upstairs I’m busy making beans and I'm still preoccupied You know what I mean? And, oh, these people come to see. Can’t sit still x 7
Not just content with revolutionising podcasting. How about we do music as well? Welcome, dear friends, to another episode of the Value for Value Show My name is Kyrin, host of The Mere Mortals and the Mere Mortals Book reviews podcasts. But I also do this one where I examine other people's podcast and how they are implementing the value for value model. So perhaps some things that they are doing uniquely that we could take, steal, borrow for our own shows, and then also maybe how they're revolutionising the music industry at the same time. So yes, today we have AbleKraft by Sir Spencer and Able Kirby.
Those two names will be familiar to you because Spencer was one of the hosts of the Bowl after Bowl and Able Kirby of Rare Encounter. Now, this is going to be slightly different because not only will I be looking at this podcast, AbleKraft, but also I guess technically it is a podcast that they released called Stay a While by Able and The Wolf. But this was more of a music band formation. And basically to to explain that, I'll have to explain what this show is. So the what they've written down for this show in the in the kind of description is music production with avant garde distribution.
So basically, this was a show where they examine the process of how they were creating an album. So Spencer played drums, Able Kirby sang and also played guitar and perhaps some other instruments. I'm not a musician, so I can't tell of all the different things that were going on in this actual album, but they were in the process of creating this album and they wanted to release it in a different way rather than having to go through Spotify and through, you know, the kind of standard music production. And I'll be reading out a kind of manifesto that they released, which explains why they why they did this in a in a short while.
So the they started this, geez, if I go to the very first episode, it looks like this started on the 16th of the seven 2021 and they released that album on December 25th of 2021. So about nine months ago. And leading up to that, they had weekly episodes and that was, I guess, what you could call season one to the release of their album. And then since then they've been roughly, yeah, every fortnight, every month releasing another episode. And I guess season two, if you want to call it that, is more focused around the many projects that they're working on, how the album actually went.
So kind of like deconstruction of the process and yeah, more I know. So Spence is working on a music app, so you know, thoughts around that basically still related to kind of the intersection between music distribution and, and podcasting. So the length of the show is typically 30 to 45 minutes, sometimes get up to an hour and format wise it's mostly those two and usually they're remote. Both of them are located in the US. So I think for a couple of episodes they did get together because they were by happenstance, kind of in the same location, but mostly remote and every now and then with a guest.
But it's very free flowing and they'll explore all sorts of side topics and whatnot sections wise for, for how the actual podcast was structured is usually they would start off with the work on the album. So how the music process was going, the recording of tracks, MIDI complications, the, you know, sound stuff every now and then a little bit of what's going on in their lives and kind of the mini projects. They also would have a large section talking about podcasting 2.0 because that was very particular and very interesting to them and which was part of the reason why they kind of formed the band was because they wanted to try releasing music in a totally new way, which had never been done before.
It was so they would explore, you know, kind of the tags, how this would maybe be useful for them or not useful for them. And then afterwards, now they've they talk more about kind of the hackathon that's coming up, general gossip and just the overall news that's going on in podcasting 2.0 that have a value for value section, not necessarily at the end, usually just somewhere within and then I've just written here miscellaneous, So just other other things that would randomly, randomly come up and this is reflected in their show titles. So they've got things like no go, no girlfriends were harmed.
We are the chickens, my dude Erotica sister to cyber buskers steering the collective takes a lot of spoons there. Their titles reflect somewhat what what they're going on within the episode and funny things. Now I did want to before I play a little section of them, just so you can get a feel for their voices, read out the manifesto that they've got, or at least part of it for the Valley for Value section of Able and the Wolf. So this was the band they created. And the album that they released was called Stay a While. So says Stay a While is a value for Value rock album that is published digitally using the podcasting to point or value infrastructure in the current period.
Paradigm of music publication out to submit to streaming services to monetise, and that's in equities. Their music and the payment and the payout amounts to fractions of a cent per stream. Their music is purposefully undervalued by these corporations so that they can pay artists as little as possible. It was our view that through the power of the internet, they small and independent artist. Finally has access to terrible one sided airplay deals which used to be reserved for superstars. Woohoo! Yay! Go technology. And then if the streaming corporations have their way, nothing will change.
Then they basically talk about the podcasting index, why that they chose to use this and why that they think this value system is much more accessible and is is more fair in a way. And how the overlap between perhaps the split payments works just as well for splitting payments between the different artists involved with their album. So they would typically have someone who created a and chapter art, I guess you could call it that, but also an album cover or a a single cover for each individual track that was released. And then they could put that as part of a split.
And if I go to the actual feed, the source of truth for for this, you can actually see that they have all sorts of things going off to Burberry, to Lauren Rose to cotton gin, to people who have created the album art that they created. So I'll play a little section here and this is from about 9 minutes in of the title called My Nude Erotic Sister. And this was just before the release of the album, which would be happening the next day. And you can get a taste for their voices. As far as we know, this is the first attempt to from scratch from the start, make an album geared exclusively for podcasting 2.0 protocol, and it's a revolutionary concept.
It's a totally different way to think about owning the production, owning the publishing, and choosing who to collaborate with, you know? Yeah, And without any middleman or without any, you know, without getting stuck, we didn't ask permission to do this, which correct the first thing that I'm that's my number one takeaway from podcasting 2.0 and the Lightning Network in general. Yeah, I never asked anyone if it was okay for me to open a node. I never had to make an account anywhere. I never had to ask anyone if, you know, if I could host my well, like, you know, it's, it's, it's just we just did it, you know, just go outside and you sing a song in front of people.
You know, you don't have to submit to Spotify or ask, you know, you know, all these other like if you were trying to get an agent or something like that to pedalling away or somewhere, right? Yeah, She didn't have to do any of that. It's all completely autonomous. You can do it yourself. Yeah. So you can see the ethos there and the overlap between kind of value for value and podcasting to point out and what they want to do. So, you know, they didn't want anyone to be telling them what they can and can't do. And this is why it's fantastic to have a system such as Bitcoin where it's permissionless and peer to peer.
You can just, you know, send money whichever way you want. And there's no gatekeepers and whatnot. And, you know, releasing the music how they want to did not have to ask for permission for any labels or for anyone to do this. And we'll get into shortly about how this has actually worked out to be quite more successful for them. But that's in the coming up something unique section. So for the value for value of implementation for this show, I'll say it's relatively simple, and this is because I would I would say AbleKraft itself.
The podcast is kind of a it's a it's a feeder in a way. It's not it's not their main objective. The you know, this isn't the main podcast that they're doing. Both of them have two other podcasts, and this is almost like a behind the scenes group meeting for a band discussion if you want. And they just happened to record it and put it online. So in terms of the value for value pitch, you know, it's not the biggest part of their show because this is kind of an incidental thing. So they still do Boosta Grams and they still do usually explain what value for value is.
But I don't have really anything more to add to this book because like I said, it's kind of the it's not it's not their main gig. It's not the main thing they're focusing on. The main thing was, was the album. But for the album it was obviously a lot more complex. So this is where they did have multiple people coming in and, and, you know, contributing to the process. So this is where. Okay, All right. I'm going to have to add some splits and or, you know, it's not I have to I want to I want to add splits into the people who have helped me out.
They also did spend a lot of time in, like I've said before, kind of the main areas of of where people understand value for value. So the sort of no agenda area, but also on podcasting 2.0 are talking about their album somewhat hyping it up and whatnot and, and I guess generating the interest and also talking with other artists and kind of onboarding them, implementing them, showing them, Hey, this is how you can actually do this. So I will play a boostagram section just so you get a feel for, for what they do there. And then after that we'll get onto something unique.
So the boostagram said they're reading out from here or from an episode called Recycling the Planet. So this is one of the latest episodes. So this was in, I believe that September of of sorry, that'll be July 9th, and this was about 46 minutes into an hour long show.
[00:11:44] Unknown:
Well, I get some boostagrams pulled up I was gonna I was just opening up very nice Why did you hit words you knock us off. We're starting from two weeks ago I think two weeks ago. I have a21212 sets to a2a2 from boobs. Booburry who says, Oh, fuck, yeah. You're going to make me want to do it. Yeah. Thank you. Those for Borg acquisition for that episode, it looks like. Yes. At a fountain. There I see 11111 SATs from Harvhat from our hot or not episode. Lucky for an after the fact boost. Oh, I see it. I see it right there. Very nice. Six Harvard.
That's why he's on the leaderboard. Harvard now, I think blueberries still at the top because I read that Hart had made it to the second place. Now the unknown boosting maniac, I don't think counts as a second place because it's a it's an aggregate of many unknown people. So Harvard, I think is is is the bananas Legion is a non his legion maybe we should have maybe we should have some kind of collective identity that everyone could set their name to and boost. Oh yeah, that's the Kilroy booster. So I burst. Yes. All the people who don't want to be named, you know, we had 2,222 sats from Mere Mortals podcast.
Yes, a little rolodex there for ducks at a fountain. Yeah. And yeah, he says. Nice to hear you two back at the mic again. Any chance we can get a sneak peek at the draft version of the logo? My curiosity is peaking. I think he just wants to know if we got the EMU look right. I've had it in my at the top of my show notes page for the last three episodes, so I've been looking at it all the time. I see it. Yeah. And it's in my it's the little icon for, for AbleKraft 32. So I think we can find a way to add to that out. Maybe. Yeah. You're okay with it?
I'm fine with it. Yeah. It still needs colouring it. And I haven't since we discussed it on the show, I haven't done any work on it at all. So yeah, it still looks like it did when you said Yeah, change the blue. Change the blue. Oh I forgot about that. I completely forgot about that. Yeah. I've seen that's the last one you see. That's the least. That's, that's the last for me as well. All right. Well thank you Kyrin Mere Mortals podcast. I've been listening to that too, a little more than I. I do, by the way. Yeah.
He's been cranking up some good stuff lately. For sure. He's been. I never notice how often he published. Yeah, a every other day. I was like, Look at it. Oh, there's a lot. Then check that out.
[00:14:23] Unknown:
Blushing over here. So very kind of for them to say that. But you could see they also had some little hints there related to other stuff they were doing. So they did have a kind of leaderboard, too, to kind of, you know, show, oh, yeah, these are the people who have been contributing the most and we really appreciate it of that, which is a a I don't know if I stole it from them or if I'd stole that from other people, but that's a big predominant thing on our website that my my co-host one and I like to show the Mere Mortals podcast and the supporters page meremortalspodcast.com slash supporter for those who are interested. So that was their main value for value implementation.
And you know, asking and thank you people for contributing and also for, you know, being able to share stuff related to the cover art and images and things like that. What's something unique that these guys do? Well, I mean, to be honest, I feel like the whole the whole project is pretty unique. But I would say it's mostly the idea of having a feed, a show that goes into your main project. And this is particularly important for, I would say, someone who is creating something as complex as an album. Obviously you're going to have to put a lot of time into, you know, not only recording but then tweaking it and then rerecording certain parts, which they had to do multiple times to, you know, getting everyone together, getting the, the, the, the titles, the images, how the lyrics.
There's a lot of work that needs to go into that. And you could, you know, somewhat relate this to how some people do podcast episodes. Now for me and for this, you know I can crank this out and roughly I'd say all up, it's probably about 3 hours, including the time spent listening and whatnot to that, to the shows and then recording and editing. But that probably took hundreds of hours for them to create an album and put that out. And if you're doing that in a value for value way and just going, okay, here it is. And with an album, you know, it's kind of not standard practice to hear.
At the end of a song. People say, Oh, by the way, you know, I created all this value for you. I'd really appreciate it if you could send it back. So you probably need to get a little bit more creative rather than just doing a big release and just hoping that people will come to it. So I'd sort of say the idea of a brooding artist working in the in the darkness, making a masterpiece is kind of a risky as hell strategy and probably disheartening for them because they're not getting that continuous feedback from their audience. Now, maybe this works nice if you're a somewhat Batman Bruce Wayne character and you're already sitting on a couple of cool billion and you know, then you can just be the Batman, do an amazing thing, save all these people.
And then it's like, Oh my God, Batman, now we value you. But if you're releasing an album like Stay a While, you probably do need a show like this. And this is getting us to that idea of having a small side gig that maybe isn't your your big kind of pay off. But it's generating the interest, generating the the feedback that if you do have people who are interested, much like I was when I first started listening in, I was like, What are these two crazy guys doing and why they creating this album? And it was funny because I didn't really know what they're up to, but I still kind of and I didn't understand a lot of it.
So we're talking about tags and technical things and music, but I really just did enjoy having that, I suppose ability to listen and see what they're up to. And it did generate hype for myself. And on Christmas Day, which is, you know, it's the kind of important day for me and my family, I still took the time out of that day to listen to their album and send them a boost and, you know, appreciate what they had done and why they were doing it, that that's a you know, if you'd asked me a year ago, would I have randomly taken out GS How much half an hour out of a Christmas Day to listen to something like that, to random guys on the Internet have produced?
I would have said how? No, there's no chance that it's happening. And yet because they had this AbleKraft podcast, because they had this little feedback mechanism, which wasn't their main thing, you know, I would if I had to guess and I'll play a clip in a section in a second of the kind of success or what what they gained after it in terms of, you know, not only the, the feedback, but monetary monetarily from the release of the album. I would say that the album probably has garnered more, you know, income coming in for them than the actual AbleKraft themselves.
Maybe I I'm actually not too 100% sure of that, but certainly there was a period where they had this big release and that was when, you know, they got this instantaneous of huge amount of value rushing in because they had kind of built up the hype and built up the. Mm. The that already kind of preloaded it all this value in the AbleKraft podcast so that when they then dropped another huge section of of value i.e. probably the first depends how technical you get they were you know, even though that was the second I guess people to release an album on as a as in the kind of the podcasting medium but they did a lot of things uniquely for themselves and in particular the splits and in particular the chapter art and images and whatnot. The that that kind of big release of value I think would have only been successful and they've only been a success, successful as they have been because they had this kind of smaller fee to show, which was keeping the audience interested and updated for it.
So if you think you've doing something similar, perhaps you have a podcast which is, you know, takes 40 hours to produce a single episode. Maybe you do want a smaller one, a behind the scenes one, which could have kind of keep that ticking along, keep that feedback loop going so that when you do drop a big one, it's not like it's just out of nowhere. There was an actual build up and hype to it. So with that being said, I'll play a clip here from the episode called We Are the Chickens, which was a month after the release of their 2021, December 25th, Christmas Day album release, and this is about 8 minutes in other artists.
[00:21:26] Unknown:
The light bulb comes on where they're like, Wait, I could be putting music on this thing too. And that was sort of for me, like a secondary to just having a use case out there. Like the primary goal of having the use case to me was just to kind of open the gates or, you know, be a beacon of like, Hey, everybody can be publishing this way and just trying to get artists inspired to do it. Also, you know, you could be streaming sets to albums also. And I mean, I don't know from where I'm sitting, I think that we easily beat bands of higher calibre, what they would pull in from a Spotify deal.
Absolutely. Already. Did I tell you the numbers on that on mean Spotify? Yeah I remember you telling me, but you have to run it by me again. It's been a while. I'm trying to remember the exact number, but yeah, but I did that calculation where I looked at the number of plays versus what we were getting in stats and it was something like a factor of ten. It was ridiculous. It's much more efficient. Yes. So if we put our if we had put our music on Spotify now at the scale we're at, no one knows about able in the wolf unless we tell them to go to ableandthewolf.com It's a very niche and we even have the extra hurdle of you could only give us money if you stream stats, which is hard compared to a fire which every Joe Blow on the street.
You know, if I if I go and look at the parking lot through my window, I bet about half of the cars there will play Spotify through them. Somebody up during the next week. And so even with that extra crutch, we still blew it. The model out of the water. Yeah it's incredible The ease with which we outperformed. You know what I'm talking about? Just like what a what? Like a b tier mainstream band would make on Spotify, which is next to nothing, you know? And next and we're talking about next to nothing for hundreds of thousands of plays. Yeah.
And then we're coming in in we're getting like I'm looking at we get I see all the 508 boost from cotton gin right at the beach December 24. You know, people were pumping a thousand sets. All Yeah, thousands. That's for this. Sometimes they have messages on them. Yeah. Well, we got Merry. Oscar's is having a coffee on Christmas morning. Enjoying this. Yeah. And just look at skin and for I don't know if you wanted to start at the 28th and do the boostagrams now. Yeah. Let's just walk through it. Let's see what we might have to say. We might as well take a look because I know we had our last show on December 27th.
Yeah. So the 28 starts with 5000 sats from Sir Elma, who boosted stay a while like wine, the track like wine saying this song kicked so much ass. Thank you for your courage. Wow. I and then I don't see that my thing Interesting. Oh, interesting indeed. I'll have to pull the record, see if it got split. Right. The first one I see is from envy. And for VIX like wine, which is for you 204 Vex. Oh, well, I've got a few between there and two. I've got to lead Boost 1337 from Chip 98. Yep, I got those. Nice. That's at a fountain. I got 100 sets from blank for like wine. Yep.
4200 sets from and for vex for like wine streaming music to my ears. Streaming v4v sets back up the pipe this is how music was intended to be produced, delivered and enjoyed. Boost that wave. You better be streaming sat. That's right. We got a stack of ducks for the artwork. Beautiful v4x2. So that's another to do to Yelp and that's first to stay well track while to point out again even though people who have been following this are well aware but those stats are divided due to the artwork artists. So when people boost and they're excited about the artwork, the artists are directly rewarded out of their split.
With that.
[00:25:33] Unknown:
BAM just highlighted everything. I was basically talking about. And I'm just going to do a little quick math here. From what they said, just from that section, which funnily enough wasn't the total amount because they did have more afterwards and the amounts were much higher. But the amount of sets that they just talked about there was just we'll just say roughly $10 us. So nothing, nothing super crazy. But if I go and look at how much Spotify pays, it's about 0.003 or to 0.005 per stream on average. And so just doing a little bit of quick math ten divided by and I'll just go for the middle .004 that need about 2500 plays to get the equivalent.
And that is not how much they would have been getting. If you're telling individual people to check out your music, they don't know 2500 people. And so I think that's just a perfect example. Like they said, it was ten X and I would probably even say it's maybe even more than that then even just even just monetarily was what they got. Let alone all the other additional benefits you get from being able to have all the music directly under your control, to have the royalties going to everyone, to not having tons of middlemen taking it in and sort of diluting the pie for Spotify.
It says about 70% to the artists, 30% to Spotify. There's just randomly looking on Google as well. So who knows how true that is. I would be inclined to think it's maybe more to Spotify as a favour, but who knows? Who knows? And I heard all of that I think just goes to show that these guys created a very cool, unique experience, not only with the album themselves, but also the way that they went about kind of promoting it and highlighting that with their show AbleKraft. So very, very cool. And I suggest that you go check out either of the shows so the podcast AbleKraft or the album itself called Stay a While by Able and The Wolf.
So with all of that being said and all those Instagrams and whatnot, I'm going to go on to my very own Boostagram lounge. Welcome to the Value for Value Boosta agram Lounge. Okay. Well, the sad puppy works because it got me an extra couple of boost come in and woohoo. So we've got a big one here, a huge one here from Petar and that's 25,000 SATs. And he says boostagrams are still very new. So don't get too discouraged if it takes some time to catch on. But as an self-appointed expert on being an early adopter of amazing ideas, Bitcoin plus podcasting is a winner, exclamation mark, 100%.
That was out of Fountain as well. Thank you, first of all, Petar, very much for that. And I also have to say that I might have been wrong about the demasiado bueno. I've never heard about that before, but apparently you could say that in Spanish. And so I'm willing to retract my my previous comments on his on his boosta gram from from last week. So yeah 100% man um I'm look I'm not too discouraged by it It's just every now and then you look and go, oh man, am I doing something crap? Am I not making this exciting enough? Which is true.
You do need that kind of self-reflection sometimes to, to really dive in. But now I do appreciate it, man and comments like that, you know, keep me encouraged. Although with that being said, there's some news coming up that might not be as encouraging. But stay tuned for the next section. I've got the 3750 SATs from Merry Oscar, also the known as Oscar Merry, the creator of Fountain or co-creator. And he says a podcast about a podcast about podcasting, another great episode Kyrin in particular. I think Podland is a great example where they had a few episodes without Boosts but kept at it and are now receiving more regular support.
Yeah, 100%, man. So you just got to keep at it sometimes just in success and good things don't come without hard work and doing that hard work upfront as well. You can't get the success. And then do the hard work afterwards. It doesn't, it doesn't work like that. So yeah, I, I remember that section where, where James was, was getting a little bit discouraged, but they've pushed through and now they, they definitely have come out the better, better on the other side and are receiving a lot more support and as you know boostagramming and bitcoin and podcasting continue to grow and continue to catch on.
It's just going to happen more and more. The last one was 833 sets from myself, and that was because I wanted to do a test boost to make sure that James and and Sam both got it because I was experimenting with a new split with Sam to a node kind of set up I hadn't used before. So I wanted to make sure that actually went through and that it was happening in the right way. So that is my boostagram section. Thank you very much for the two. Well, three people, I guess, if you count myself, who contributed and I very much do appreciate that. And it yeah that that sort of feedback is essential for me to to know how I'm doing.
If you're enjoying the shows and if it just additional comments that can be put in. So with all of that being said, I'll get on to my value for value section and the big call out for today is I would just encourage you to check out the chat I actually had with Sir Spencer on the Mere Mortals podcast. So this was on episode 75. You'll see the link clickable in the in the chapter art if you're in or in the in the chapters, if you've got a decent podcasting app. And I would actually recommend checking out the breez app because they, they highlight it very clearly on the screen and when you click on it, you stay within the app as well to wherever the link goes. So very, very cool.
I actually do like that functionality a lot. So this section now is also going to be a little bit of housekeeping. So there's two points I wanted to come up with. The first is the news, maybe some sad news for those, which is that I'm thinking of winding down the value for value season two. I'm noticing and you might have noticed that this episode was released a day later. One reason for that was because my Saturday got a very busy then, so I decided to move it on to the Sunday. But also kind of my motivation for it is starting to wane a little bit.
I'm feeling I'm finding it harder and harder to really pick out unique aspects that shows are doing. And I'm also just wanting to create a bit more time to focus on some other things. So I feel like I've had a pretty good run so far. And the first season was about 18, 17 episodes and this is going to probably be about equal to that. So not to worry, I'll still do. I'm planning on two more episodes. I think, and then I'll, I'll wind up for this season and yeah, probably take another last time. I had a four month break before I really kicked it off.
And yeah, I'm probably thinking about roughly the same thing and I'd maybe come back with a new format. One of the things I was thinking of was also starting to explain how you could use the tags a bit more. So the podcasting 2.0 tags, probably still doing reviews of other shows, but maybe not make it the the core aspect like it has been in season two. I'm willing I'm willing to to play around. But the idea for season two actually came from Oscar Merry and from a couple of other people who recommended the same thing. So that was a you know, if you I'll still be checking out the the boostagram and the and the value for value section on this podcast will still stay up.
So if you're interested and want to reach out and give a suggestion and whatnot, always feel free to hit me up in whatever way you want. But you know, the boost agram is always the most appreciated. I really like them. The other one is you might notice that in the split set I've actually bumped up the splits for Mr. Sir Spencer and for Mr. Able Kirby. And that's because they I'd actually done a kind of DJ set with them with that music for one of my episodes, but I didn't actually have the split functionality created in on my main show, Mere Mortals. And so I wasn't able to really thank them in the adequate way.
So basically I bumped up the splits and I've also included right here for those of you, a little bonus for those who got all the way to the end. My favourite song from the album called Making Beans. I haven't actually asked them prehand if I, if I'm allowed to do this. They have let me in the past. Let me let me play that music and I should say now, but I'm putting it right at the end. So if I need to, I'll cut it out if they if they want me to. But just as a reward for those who have been playing to the end and as a big thanks to so Spencer and Able Kirby for doing this, for creating this kind of completely new method of releasing music and and having a success right out of the gate.
I think that's really, really cool. So to take us away today, we have making beans by the band Able and The Wolf from that Able from their album Stay Awhile.
[00:35:41] Unknown:
I Can't Sit Still I Can’t sit still well, they're talking to me, but I can't know what it means. It's hard to pay attention when you're busy making beans. Cuz upstairs. I'm busy making beans. And I'm still. Preoccupied, you know what I mean? And all these people come to see that. Shout out some. More, or that's a better. Way to be. How to live in a home. In a tree scalp of millions on screen. I mean, all these people sure were nice to me when they dragged me down drawn me up ran me out of steam I don’t wear no underwear And nothing calls me.
Cuz upstairs I’m busy making beans and I'm still preoccupied You know what I mean? And, oh, these people come to see. Can’t sit still x 7
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