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Ungovernable Misfits – P.M.M. Episode 1

What does P.M.M. stand for? 

Pleb Miner & Meshtadel for the most part, but perhaps it means, Pleb Miner Mafia, or Privacy and Mining Mavericks. Maybe is means Permaculture, Mechanics, and Mycelium. You see where we’re going here, the show is fluid. Some episodes will be weighted towards mining, some permaculture, and others self-sovereignty. 

What is the Meshtadel?

The Meshtadel was started by Max, Czino, and SoulEx. Read SoulEx and SoulEx Boy’s original article in Citadel 21 for more context and check out their episode on Ungovernable Misfits. The group was created to help Plebs connect with each other, provide mutual support, and as an incubator for new ideas, but the group grew to be so much more over the past few years. It’s now a group of friends who provide mutual support, general encouragement, advice on permaculture and sustainable living, sovereignty, and preparedness, and even at times parenting advice or sharing a good recipe. The term “Meshtadel” comes from the combination of Citadel + Mesh-Network. 

A Citadel by itself is not likely to stand under state attack, but Bitcoin-anchored, open, and decentralized societies willing to cooperate with each other p2p, that is a network that can’t be destroyed. Within the Meshtadel, Bitcoin is what has initially connected many of us, but we find through our interactions, that our love for our friends, families, and communities, and our desires to be sovereigns are what makes us Meshtadelians.

In this episode of P.M.M. Max and Jon introduce the Meshtadel’s origin story. The boys review clips of SoulEx and his son as they share their vision of the Meshtadel concept. That concept being preparing for unlikely scenarios, preparations we hope we never need to use. It's crucial to have options, even if unused, rather than lacking them when needed. The Meshtadel is the connections we make with like-minded individuals. Starting with just one genuine connection can lay the groundwork for a supportive, real-world network. The Meshtadel approach isn't about fear; it's about readiness and community resilience. The Meshtadel and the Miner Mafia share many of these characteristics and are natural kin. The Mafia are hard core Pleb Miners, but mining is just one part of the self-sovereignty stack.

Jon and Max introduce other Meshtadelians like Tensai Bankai. The review the sentiment that many of us held during the mass formation psychosis we witnessed taking hold of the rest of society a few years back and the preparations we made to carry ourselves and our families through. Check out that episode here.

Max and Jon also review Meshtadelian Rev Hodl or as we know him, Karl. He came to many of the same conclusions we all did during the dark times. Review his episode with Max here. 

The guys stress the importance of meeting with one another irl. Although our virtual communication is meaningful and important, there is nothing like meeting up in real life. 

The Meshtadel was spurred into an important conversation by an article from the Bitcoin Bugle by Dick Greaser Jails Around the Country to Release Pedos To Make Room For Amish Milk Sellers. The piece is satire of course, but it inspired a fascinating conversation amongst the members of the Meshtadel on different security approaches from the perspective of a citadel builder, a homesteader, an intellectual, and a pragmatist. 

Ungovernable Misfits welcomes our new contributor Charles Myriel with his piece Demoralizing People, Demoralizing Others.

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(00:00:00) Intro 🔥

(00:01:25) Meshtadel History

(00:05:55) SoulEx & SoulExBoy: The “Soul” of the Meshtadel

(00:07:15) 🤝 Miner Mafia & Meshtadel, Natural Kin 🤝

(00:08:01) The Character of the Meshtadel

(00:13:55) Get to Know The Meshtadelians

(00:15:13) Tensai Bankai

(00:17:50) Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth 👊

(00:20:03) Rev Hodl is a Bad Bunny 🐇

(00:22:25) Tim Ferriss 4 Hour Workweek. Streamline your life

(00:26:35) BOOSTS

(00:30:05) 🙏 Support Projects & People you Believe In 🙏

(00:31:14) Boosts, Boosts & Test Boosts?

(00:33:24) Pick Up Some Anarchic Assets for Free!!!

(00:34:30) Altair Mining Solutions (Coupon Code: UNGOVERNABLE)

(00:36:48) BiFrost Manufacturing

(00:38:36) Meetup in the Meatspace

(00:40:09) Ungovernable Amish

(00:43:28) HOW DARE YOU SELL RAW MILK! 🥛

(00:45:15) The Citadel Perspective

(00:48:36) Be Boring The Grayman Way

(00:52:27) The Homestead Perspective

(00:54:21) Teamwork Makes the Dream Work

(00:56:27) 🎄 Christmas Album Boosts 🎄

(00:59:00) Demoralization: By Charles Myriel

(01:02:39) 🏁 A Back Slapping Outro 🏁

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For your safety.   Big pharma,   big banks,   income tax,   VAT.   The Illuminati Elite, Cultural Marxism,   Critical Theory.  

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You are nothing.   You are VAT. Nothing to me.   You're a useless   fucking cunt.   You are nothing to me.   I don't  

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Powerful stuff, John.  

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Yeah, it is.   I love it. I still listen to it while I'm trying to is that weird? No. I listen to it too. There were a couple people on fountain that asked, Where can I download this?   Do we have a place to download it?  

[00:00:48] Unknown:

Higher.   I can make an MP3   Maybe Crown can put it in their, like, free section on the site. Okay. You're Anarchy assets.   That's the one. You would remember the names, not me. I do. Yeah. We should do that because,  

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it couldn't be put on YouTube   Because,   oh,   no.  

[00:01:08] Unknown:

Too risky for them. Oh, yeah. We will get banned.   Well, new show, John.   It is   Been how long since we've done anything with the meshtadel?   18 months, 2 years, something like that?  

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Don't know. We tried to do a meshtadel Don't know. We tried to do a meshtadel episode.   Yep. And,  

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but the time just wasn't right. But everyone should know the meshtadel has been running in the background this entire time. It has, mainly thanks To you and everyone in there, not anything to do with me. I've barely been in, but I have   been flicking my eye across it Every day or 2 and just seeing how things are going, and   I'm always impressed   every time that I take the time to look. I'm like, oh, fuck. This person's building this. Oh, look at this connection. Oh, look at this. And it has been cool. Although I've got less involvement, and I do wanna have more, and we've been working on ways to Free up some time literally today together, so hopefully that happens and there is some more. But it makes me excited   because There's a fucking awesome group of people in there.  



[00:02:15] Unknown:

We mentioned this term meshtadel all the time   in recordings between you and I Talking about different people who were in the Pleb minor mafia.   Even on Pleb minor monthly shows, we say meshtadel all the time as if everybody knows what meshtadel is. So perhaps it's time we   refresh everyone's memory   as to how that meshtadel as to how that meshtadel got started, it was formed, what was the reasoning behind it, What's the mission statement of the meshtadel if there is one?   It's how we met. It is how we met. Yep. On a my response to a meshtadel It's how we met. It is how we met. Yep. On a my response to a meshtadel spaces that you guys had, I just thought you all were so cool.  

[00:02:53] Unknown:

You were right. When did it start? Was that   20   20,  

[00:02:59] Unknown:

I wanna say. I think early 2021.   I have to look at when the Citadel SolEx and the Citadel 21   Article. Was that the beginning of it? You tell me.  

[00:03:09] Unknown:

You know what my memory's like, mate?   I think it was about 2020.   We did oh, yeah. We did our first spaces, and I think maybe you and Tensai  

[00:03:21] Unknown:

and your first bit of meshtadel interviews   Or this the spaces? The first spaces.   That's kind of where it started to grow from. I can tell you some of the first active meshtadellians   That that I've noticed on spit was one of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tensai,   Moses, Camilo   Mhmm. Chino, SolEx.   Do you remember Jay Arnold? Mhmm. Yeah. Well, you did you did a whole pod with them. The the Ayahuasca,   I forget what the title of that pod was, but you made specific Work for that pod, which I thought was great, and I have a t shirt of it. Mhmm.  

[00:03:52] Unknown:

Carl?   Of course, Carl. Yeah. I made specific artwork for him as well. Bad bunnies.  

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Mhmm.  

[00:04:01] Unknown:

It was basically a way to   find people who are involved in Bitcoin,   But not just sit and talk about Bitcoin and not just sit and talk about   the protocol changes or   new bits of software and   All the stuff that we talk about on other shows, it was really to say, like, okay. You found   open source money, and it gives you some freedoms. And it helps you in certain ways, and it's a tool. But what other areas of your life could do with more freedom, and how could we achieve that? And so it kind of came at a perfect time given that,   the whole world was fucking locked down, and Mhmm. These freedoms were taken from them. It kind of, I guess that was the fuel to the fire.  

And so people started to pile in and talk about permaculture   and   How you can grow your own produce   and take yourself away from being reliant on   going to the supermarket. You know, what happens if Shipments don't come in anymore. What happens if you aren't allowed to go and spend your money because,   well, you know, you went to a protest saying that you didn't want the scenes with the lockdowns or you don't have your card to say that you're allowed in.   It made for really interesting conversations.   I did then a spree   of interviews from that, which were some of the most enjoyable ones I've done. And then we all just got really busy, basically.  

The plan was to do a a monthly   episode  

[00:05:29] Unknown:

covering everything that was going on in the meshtadel. And we did a few. I can't remember how many it was we did. I wanna say, like, 4. I think he did one with SolEx and Chino, and then Joel was in there for one of them. That's right. I think it may have been 4, but You also have the breakout episodes, the interview individual   interviews with people who are now long time meshtadelliens. Shishi,   myself, Tensei,   Technology Culture,   Carl, of course. Those were some of the best episodes, and I have a few snippets from some of those episodes. Oh. Yeah. The first one I ever heard was Solex and Solex   Boy explaining   the meshtadel. And here's a clip from that, which I have always thought this was just one of the most Special things because the chemistry that those 2 have together, I don't know. Soulex boy really is like a a younger, much smarter version of soulex.  

So it's really cool to see the dynamic between the 2 of them. Best voices in Bitcoin as well. Yeah.   We should start building our meshtadels, real life connections to Fellow Plebs. You can start building on your circular  

[00:06:32] Unknown:

economy   mini network.   Make a chain of trust. When you get to know a pleb with whom you feel like finding a long lost friend,   you're based for a meshtadel is set. Just  

[00:06:45] Unknown:

too adorable.   The kids too cute.   But now he's by a man. That that was a long time ago, that that recording. It was. Yeah.  

[00:06:53] Unknown:

They were good times. I enjoyed that.   That's why we're doing this show. It's because   I miss it. You miss it. Mhmm.   It wasn't the right timing before. Chino got really busy with bits and pieces, so did SolEx, so did I. It just stopped happening, And we've been talking about it now pretty much ever since.   It really would be good to cover a bit of ground On what's happening in the meshtadel. And, also, because there's such a crossover already with the Pleb minor mafia, there are a lot of people who are in both, And they really do cross over a lot, so I think it would be perfect to have a show where we cover what's happening in both   and,   Help people become more free.  



[00:07:36] Unknown:

That's essentially what this show is, is the crossover between the PLEBMONER Mafia   and the meshtadel. We've been lucky that a lot of people have listened to a Bitcoin mining show so intently, and they have absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin mining. A lot. Yeah. We have a lot of crossover there. So it it's already built into kind of the Ungovernable Misfits brand. So why not bring the people what they want? We went briefly went over the history of the meshtadel. When I invite people into the meshtadel and and do recruiting, I send them this, like, text of what the meshtadel is, and my description was that meshtadeland the meshtadel. We've been lucky that a lot of people have listened to a Bitcoin mining show so intently, and they have absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin mining. A lot. Yeah. We have a lot of crossover there. So it it's already built into kind of the Ungovernable Misfits brand. So why not bring the people what they want? We went briefly went over the history of the meshtadel. When I invite people into the meshtadel and and do recruiting, I send them this, like, text of what the meshtadel is, and my description was that meshtadel was started by Max Bit by Bit, Chino, Sole exporter. The group was created to help plebs connect with each other, provide mutual support, and as an incubator for new ideas. But the group grew to be so much more over the past few years. It's now a group of friends who provide mutual support, general encouragement, advice on permaculture and sustainable living, sovereignty and preparedness,   And even at times parenting advice for sharing a good recipe. The term meshtadel And even at times parenting advice for sharing a good recipe. The term meshtadel comes from a combination of citadel   plus mesh network. A citadel by itself is not likely to stand under state attack. But Bitcoin anchored, open and decentralized societies willing to cooperate with each other peer to peer, That is a network that can't be destroyed. Within the mechadale, Bitcoin is what has initially connected many of us, but we find through our interactions that our love for our friends, Families and communities and our desires to be sovereigns are what makes us meshtadellians.  

I almost get kind of teared up with that. Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful, mate.  

[00:09:10] Unknown:

And, also,   I would like to say a personal thank you to you, mate, because   you have kept that running for   I don't even know how long now. You're always finding new people who you think, oh, this person has value. I've spoken to them at a mining conference, and they're doing this, and that's useful. And they like permaculture.   You know, you're creating things like that so people instantly understand what this whole thing's about when they come in and,   Yeah. Just keeping that Maschadel flame alive. So,   honestly, without you, it would be nowhere near where it is now. So I appreciate that. I give you a lot of shit in life, And you deserve it, but I appreciate you for that.  

[00:09:47] Unknown:

Thanks, man. I don't know how to take compliments from you. It's very difficult. It's very weird. They come rarely.  

[00:09:54] Unknown:

It's worth keeping alive. It really is something special, and a lot of people who   join it or even just   Interact with people from the Mestradell say it. Zelko said it to me many times. He's like, fuck. That pleb minor mafia group and the Mestradell, like, They're real people. They're real, like, proper people. I'm like, yep. He's like, that's amazing. Like, you don't see this everywhere else, and you really don't. Most places are Moon Boy stuff. It's like, oh, you can get a 5% discount if you use Relay and Use this code. Is it just all that kind of stuff all the time? It's fine, but it's it's not really what we're here for. And I think a lot of people are searching for this. It's like They want the freedom. You get a taste for it, don't you? Like, oh, freedom money. No one can take this from me. And then you go further down, you're like, Hang on a minute. I'm vulnerable in these other areas. Yeah. You know, it'd be really good to sort these things out, and it's invaluable. Like, you go on there, And you can have conversations with someone like Carl, who really knows his shit when it comes to permaculture.   Yeah. Really helpful.  

It's like, you don't wanna find that googling.   Do you know what I mean? Like, you could spend a very long time   Fucking around, trying to find   the real information that you need on a subject,   or   you can go into the Mestradell,   and you're instantly plugged into, like, a hive mind   of people who not only understand their subjects very well, but also  

[00:11:21] Unknown:

Have a very similar view of the world. You're not gonna be speaking to some statist cuck. Yeah. Right. Who happens to be good at permaculture too. Exactly. You can speak to somebody who's aligned with you on many, many aspects of freedom and and sovereignty and sound money, and also ask them about What they're specialized in. That's where I think I I fit well into the meshtadel because I just happen to remember what all these people do. And somebody says, hey. Does anybody know how to do this? And then I say, At this person. At this person. Don't ask me. You know? Maybe I can get answer a mining question or something like that, but there's a lot smarter people that can do it. You have, like, a Rolodex  

[00:11:58] Unknown:

In your head?   Like, how many times a day? I'm like, oh, yeah. What's that what's that show that I make again? You're like, the name of your show is this. That one's a little easier. Yeah.   Yeah. It's a really useful skill, and it has helped a lot of people make these connections. And it's growing really nicely. Like, it's,   it's cool to see that it's, like, real interactions, and people are   pretty friendly and nice. And I don't think We've really ever had any issues like I see in a lot of the other places. No. It seems to be it's like, come in. Be respectful. Don't be an asshole. Yep. If you are gonna be an asshole, no one's gonna bother speaking to you. Mhmm. And, also, it's only really by invite only. It's like we're bringing people in because we think they have value. That's the only time I bring someone in. So I'm like, this person's fucking cool. I think they fit. I'll bring them in. You know, we'll have other recruiters, like SF was on a tear for recruiting into the Mestudot.  

[00:12:53] Unknown:

Lots of people have been invited in that way. The Pledmont or mafia is the same way. We don't tolerate any of that kind of rudeness. I've never booted anybody out of either groups, and I just don't think I would do that. But if things start to get testy and I will say, hey. We just treat each other with respect? Usually, that's enough. Yeah. I'd like for people to know some of the meshtadellians a little bit better. Like we talked about, there are interviews that you did, very special interviews for me personally because that's when I started to become part of this crew.   Those interviews enabled me to become quick friends with TK and Tensai.  

You know, Tensai DM'd me a couple months ago about Us mentioning the the conference that they did in South Africa. He did stuff for us for Pleb Miner Month. He's a super great guy. It's easy to make connections, I already know he's a super great guy. I heard him interviewed for an hour, hour and a half. He is. Same with TK.   Sometimes we just talk him and his wife and I. I've become good friends with this guy in Germany   because of an interview that you did getting into the meshtadel. 1 of the most important things in the Emestadel is our monthly call. I mentioned it in the Christmas album, little funny song that I did. That's the 8th of every month At   21   Central European Time.  

20 UTC.   Where? That changes. Often on Telegram,   sometimes a Zoom call,   sometimes Nostr Nests.   Why do I do the Zoom call? Because sometimes material has been presented to people,   like multimedia presentations.   For instance, Carl's 8 forms of capital Presentation   has been done on the Mesthedel, a presentation that you can pay him to do for you and have a q and a session. That's one of Carl's income streams is permaculture education. So if you're interested in this kind of stuff, join the meshtadel. You have access to guys like Carl. You can go a step further. Take a course from him. You can go a step further beyond that. Go to his farm and get the tour live, and he will teach you these things. So these are the resources that the people in the meshtadelhas been done on the Mesthedel, a presentation that you can pay him to do for you and have a q and a session. That's one of Carl's income streams is permaculture education. So if you're interested in this kind of stuff, join the meshtadel. You have access to guys like Carl. You can go a step further. Take a course from him. You can go a step further beyond that. Go to his farm and get the tour live, and he will teach you these things. So these are the resources that the people in the meshtadel provide. But I want other people to know these people as well. So if you'll allow, I wanna play a couple clips   of meshtadellians and their interview with you. You okay with this? You allow this? As long as you don't put bank gun in there, I'm fine.  

That guy.   That fucking guy. This is you and Tensai,   and it's fun to hear these interviews too. You know, we've lost a lot of our fire   Since the COVID bullshit has subsided slightly, we were fired the fuck up. I was gonna get fired from my job. Didn't care. You were having, confrontations in the street of people coming up to you and and and your wife asking about masks. I I appreciate those times because everybody was fired up. So it's interesting to hear this clip. There was a little bit of firing up about what to do, shortages and lockdowns.  

[00:15:39] Unknown:

If I am   limited   in my ability   to access   food through stores without Proof of, you know, vaccination.   How am I going to access these resources? And and and and even if it's not something like this now, It could be something else in the future. And that's something that you don't really think about, how fragile and how reliant you are on these things. Like, Buy things knowing we can wake up tomorrow,   go to the shop, and buy some eggs and bread and feed our family.   Realizing all of this, I decided,   Okay. It's probably important that I   start   figuring out and thinking of ways in which I can make myself  

[00:16:19] Unknown:

a little bit more resilient,  

[00:16:21] Unknown:

Resilient   to tyranny, resilient to just systemic collapses that could occur.  

[00:16:29] Unknown:

Just because right now it seems that we shouldn't be thinking about these things that we were thinking about 2 years ago   Doesn't mean you should have ever stopped.   Doesn't mean you should have ever taken your foot off the gas pedal. If you started a garden during that time, If you started to make preparations like, where do I go if something happens here? What do I do with my family? What if the system collapses? I mean, not to be melodramatic, these things happen. Mhmm. Get back into it. Start thinking, again, what do you do in these situations?  

[00:16:57] Unknown:

It's always when there's a lull and you get complacent that you're gonna get slapped in the face. It's why I started training again because I just feel   People are getting too comfortable around here.   Things could kick off.  

[00:17:10] Unknown:

No one's gonna go after a bulky man.  

[00:17:13] Unknown:

No. Especially   when you're drinking as much protein and eating as much as me because you fucking stink, and everyone's just like,   Yeah. You might be physically   what's the word? Imposing?   Yeah. More than that.  

[00:17:28] Unknown:

You are a skunk. I'm not going anywhere near you. They say smell has is the sense closest tied to memory. Oh, really? Well, people will never forget. Mhmm. Don't forget that bulky, stinky guy.  

[00:17:41] Unknown:

That stench.   But yeah. I mean, it is important that people are ready, and there's so many different ways. It's like There are a lot of people we made this point many times in the message that there are a lot of people   in the Bitcoin Twitter world who will be able to tell you the version number of every bit software that they're using, and they'll have a multisig setup, and they're using all these clever tools and blah blah blah. And it's like, Okay. That's great. But   what is your plan if your food supply gets cut off? What is your plan if the power goes out? What is your plan if you're physically attacked?   What is your plan if you have to leave your home? What is your plan if your door gets kicked down? Do you have contingencies in place? What is your plan for   if the schools start to   take things a little bit further than they already are, and you think, Well, this isn't actually safe for my kids to be learning or be around. You know, you have to have   control over all these aspects of life. It's a way that people can spend a little bit less time   in the weeds   and be able to look up and go, okay. There's more going on.  



[00:18:50] Unknown:

This show is called PMM,   Pleb Miner, and Mesthedel.   So the Pleb Mining side of that, it it it's just one aspect   of preparedness.   It's one aspect of sovereignty.   It's like you guys said in in the first spend gun episode. I think that episode was titled, you can't eat sats.   Was it, or was that like a subheading or something like that? It was. You can't make sense. Okay. So that was the the oh, you did remember that. Look at you. Not as dumb as you think. Only because  

[00:19:19] Unknown:

I've recently done another recording with him. Oh, that's right. Yeah. You can't live in a Bitcoin was the new one.  

[00:19:25] Unknown:

Uh-huh. That's right. Exactly. So the pleb mining part, we think, is an important part of self sovereignty that you take control of your money supply, That you don't depend on exchanges. That if you're going to purchase Bitcoin, that it be done peer to peer. Then we think that mining, if you're in the right location and are doing it the right way, and that's what we try to teach and what we try to stress,   that you can gain your Bitcoin that way, but it is just one piece of the puzzle. And perhaps   we, as a group, You know, have focused too much on that piece of the puzzle. So this show is to highlight other parts   of preparedness and sovereignty or or that Bitcoin   Ethos. That pleb. Ethos.  

Got another interview with Carl,   which I thought was a great one. That was the, like, Really, the 3rd interview that we did with him, that one on one interview between the 2 of you, we did one during Blood Miner Month with Chet And Carl, and that introduced everybody to Carl, and then he did that documentary for the Ungovernable Misfits website.   And then there was the Bad Bunnies interview. So here's an excerpt from that.  

[00:20:27] Unknown:

But, yeah, we we are always trying to work towards   increasing our resiliency   to   Unknowable things happening,   and just making sure, like, we'll always have the water.   We'll always have some sort of a little bit of power generation.   We'll certainly have food.   We'll be able to heat our house   Mhmm. Those types of things. And when you have that set up,   that does give you, once again, like, To the point of not making much money, you you don't really need a lot of new income coming in,   and,   you have a lot less   Of this subconscious stress, I think,   my mind is a lot more open to be   solving   bigger problems   Than just my basic necessities.  



[00:21:12] Unknown:

Gotta love that man. I really do love that man. I don't know. I just have the utmost respect for him. As you all know, you know, we spent time together and went to his house and the Lake's Toshiba event, and we were on a panel together, and I talked Carl all the time.   Carl's, like, become a part of my life.   He mentions and I this is something you and I personally need to work on because I know your life, and you know my life is to eliminate   a lot of these stresses that we worry about all the time   So we can focus our minds more towards achieving these self sovereignty goals or preparedness goals.  

[00:21:46] Unknown:

Yeah. Absolutely.   I think, personally, for me, this year is trying to clear time even if that means paying people to do some of the stuff I'd otherwise do   So that I can actually be more prepared and just have some more time, take away some stress. Because when you're stressed and busy all the time, it's difficult to think.   It's difficult to see what might be coming.   You also lose a lot of   connections that you'd otherwise make, and   it's easy to, like, lose momentum   and just get stuck into a rut of, like, I have this job, this job, this job, this job, this job, this job, this job, and then   sleep.  



[00:22:24] Unknown:

That's not much fun. I know this wasn't on our list of things to talk about, but you were talking about that book yesterday   that you were reading. Did you get any tips? And please tell the listeners what the book is about. But did you get any tips on how to outsource some of these Stressors or things that you have to worry about or responsibilities.  

[00:22:42] Unknown:

Yeah. Book is quite an old one. It's Tim Ferriss' 4 hour work week.   Probably a lot of people would have read it or heard about it. It's pretty well known. I've not finished it yet. It's slightly outdated in that it was written in, like, 2,007   or 8 or something like that. So a lot of the Get caller ID so you know who's calling you.  

[00:23:04] Unknown:

It's  

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well, the basic idea of it is like   trying to outsource what you can outsource and streamline what you can to try and give yourself more time. Hence, the name is, like, 4 hour work week. It's a guy who went from working 80, 90 hours a week to 4 hours a week without his income changing   or actually a change, but positively.   A lot of the tools that he's using is Trying to eliminate yourself from processes.   Make it that   no one relies on you unless something is   Extremely urgent because they already know if this, then that. You have agreements in place of, like, what they're to do in what situation. And what he was doing is outsourcing a lot of stuff. He's living in America,   earning   a wage in America,   and then he's outsourcing   to India to do, you know, like, virtual assistant stuff or whatever it is. And he was basically leveraging the Internet and leveraging networks   and also using   currency exchange in his favor while he travels and lives in a cheap part of the world. He's earning   in a stronger currency   and then paying that stronger currency   to an area where incomes are extremely low. So He's playing that game, which still works. Yeah. But, you know, this was right at the beginning of all of that, and so people had a much bigger edge is what I'm starting to realize from reading the book. But it did make me think, you know, certainly with, like, editing and bits and pieces like that, I'm gonna be   outsourcing some of that. We've tried it before, and it didn't work. But get back onto that path so that you can spend some more time Doing the personal interviews,   doing the artwork,   preparing,   like, physically, mentally for other stuff, and,   yeah, like, tape some of my own advice, really. I'd still say it's worth reading. He gives a lot of guides of, like, how to. It's not like this is what I've done, and then there's no breakdown. It's like How to start an LLC. Here's a link. This is the step by step   guide. You know, how do you use this service, step by step guide with blogs and all this stuff? So it's like He really does hold people's hands  

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through the process. It is good. I think it might be good advice to pursue some of those things now, like leveraging your currency to get certain tasks done because in my research of trying to find editors for us, I thought it was going to be, like, super easy. I'm going to Look in India or Bangladesh or the Philippines and find this editor who's gonna do a shitload of work for us for nothing. You know?  

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And I quickly found out that that's not exactly the case. It's a global market now, and they're charging nearly as much as the western editors. So I'm not saying there's still not opportunity for that. Like I say, you know, this was written a long time ago. Yeah. And so things were different. You know? When he's talking in the book, he's like Hiring virtual assistants who are very capable for, like, $3 an hour. Mhmm. Man. And that's obviously changed,   But there probably still are hacks and ways around that. But the big thing and and what most of us can do, especially those of you who are working remotely,   is you can go and live somewhere where your living costs are a tenth of what they would be in a major city in the UK or the US, and you can still earn in dollars or corn,   obviously, ideally, and then you can go and pay in pesos or whatever. So That is something that's still possible. But I do think there are some things in there. If it's good knowledge and good wisdom, then it's kind of timeless. We have found boosts from  

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the New Year's message, the song that we played at the beginning. We played a couple of times, the I hate you, Ungovernable misfits version. Mhmm. And we also, later on, have some boosts from   the Christmas album parody thing that we did.   If you like, we can switch colors   on reading these boosts.  

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No. It's fine.  

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Alright. You're up first then. At set in stone,  

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75,000   sats. Boom.   Very nice boost. Thank you, at set in stone. The commentary gives this song a whole new meaning. Driving down a country road jamming to this. Hilarious at 1.5 speed.  

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I have I haven't done that yet. I will do. That and Dominic the donkey. You've been assigned by fountain boosters to do those things. Yes. I will. At Stimi.  

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50,000 sats.   Well said, gents.  

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Thank you, Stimi. Take a of you. As I mentioned in the previous episode, I have a new Twitter. It's atprevhashnonts.   I was looking for Stimmy on there. I thought it was his username was basic x HODL, but I might be off on that one. So, Stimmy, if you're listening, please follow me back on there. Please follow me. I want I want to reconnect. I don't give a fuck. What have you told me? If I did give a fuck, I wouldn't have given up the Twitter account. It's just There are special people who I've known for a long time in in this, universe, and Stimmy's one of them, and I like him. I'm sure he likes you too. Yeah. It's not that he doesn't like you, that he's not following you back, so don't get a complex about it. That has nothing to do with it. Just hard to find. Yeah. At wartime,  

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Happy New Year. Biz,   fist bump,   strong-arm thing, orange heart, toxic,   Ancap,   skull and crossbones.  

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That's wartime right there, for sure. That's him in a bunch of gifts.  

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I like it.   Baz.   Nice.   Thanks, Baz.   Bitconer coin. I think they underestimate   our hatred for them And the determination   we have to see them fail.   Go fuck yourself.   2024.   That thing surfers do. Yeah. What do you call loose? Hang loose, man. Hang loose. Yeah. Is it hang loose or the hang hang time, isn't it? No. Hang loose.  

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Hang loose. Okay. Yeah. It's a Hawaiian thing, so maybe the Hawaiians have a different meaning. That's my understanding from eighties kid. Okay. Hang loose. Okay. You skipped 1. You skipped ape myth rendir. It says great message to start the New Year with. Thank you, Aetna Thrander. That's my dyslexia.   Mhmm.   Next one is not your keys.   2024, baby. Let's get at it. Bon gave a double   f u fingers with a kiss. Thanks, Bon. I guess.   I don't want you to kiss me or fuck me. He's Canadian, so probably both.   Booyah.   Next one is vague. I want to send Max a love note, but it's not Valentine's Day yet.  

You can wait.   Linkin Park rules. This fuck mother   Can we ban him?   Lincoln Park rules.   Can we ban him from boosting? I don't know. I think we should consider it. Let's see if we can. Let's ask him if he can do that for us.   You you ask him anything. And if don't know already, Linked Park rules has really helped out with the value for value stuff beyond all kinds of podcast back end things. I don't know. The guy is like, Does he sleep? I don't think so. I don't think so either.  

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Rules actually rules.   This is a perfect example of what the mestradol does and what these groups do. This is someone who's listened to the show for a long time and just reached out off his own back and just said, I wanna help. I think it'd be cool if you had x, y, and zed done. I think it'd be good if you worked more with the podcasting 2 point o. Here's some ways that I think you could improve.   Here are some suggestions. This is what I can do. Blah blah blah. And I'm like, listen, mate. That all sounds amazing, but it sounds like a lot of work. You know, we can't really afford to pay you for this. Like, it sounds good, but maybe in the future, it's like, no. No. No. I don't want anything. I just love the show, and I wanna help.   Honestly, I'm blown away with what he's done. It's fucking amazing. He's been doing so much research, just helping nonstop.  

And this isn't like Some fucking guy in his mom's basement with nothing to do. This is No. This is a busy   family working guy Mhmm. Who is taking   Very limited time where he probably should be sleeping to help the show. So a big thank you to Lincoln Park Rules. We really, really   Seriously appreciate it.  

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Well, these next couple boosts are him working it out.   A lot of the back end things that he's done over the past,   I don't know. Month, month and a half? Lincoln Park rules. Fountain, why are you making it hard for boosts from other apps to show up here? Now we know you have to pay them An additional 2% tax. Tax. You gotta tack. Yeah.   That's okay. Don't waive our tax. Only the number 8 show on your Fucking puff. Anyway, next one's from Lincoln,   testing from Podverse,   and then he's testing from Podcast Index.   Good tests. You got it. Like, I'm telling him. He already knows all this stuff. Username 404 without and within at the same time. Wow.  



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Oh, deep. Mhmm.   Bitcoin kook,   t y, I guess that's thank you, exclamation mark, either praying or high five, orange heart.   At Pies.   I was gonna relax today, but this motivated me to go on my David Goggins   and go run and do pull ups in 30 degree weather. Let's   fucking go. Yeah. I'm here. Mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark.   I love it. I love that we've inspired you to do that.   Pies again. Happy New Year, mofos.   Bitcoin equals freedom.   Let's Fucking go. Oh. Exclamation money, exclamation mark. Exclamation mark. Rocket ship. Rocket ship. Rocket ship. Rocket Ship. Rocket ship. Mushroom. Mushroom. Mushroom. Mushroom. Mushroom. Mushroom.  

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Mushroom. Got it. Revolution 77.   Good said, brother pleb. Don't know what that means, but Thank you. Like a like a poem. I think he's saying about the the song. The song was good said. Well said? Yeah. But good said   Is is more,   poetic.  

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Good said, brother pleb. You could rap. Oh, I see what you mean. I don't wanna give English lessons here or anything, but I don't think good set makes sense. But I appreciate the message  

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regarding man. That's cool. An Englishman giving English lessons.   You cocky.   Clise Tevru.   Great song. Is there somewhere I can download it? That crown will take care of that. Anarctic assets. Check out anarchic assets, part of the Ungovernable Misfits website, and you can download,   wallpapers, All of Crown's art as wallpapers. Anarkic assets. We've got decentralized  

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dimensions,   fuck around and find out, the samurai and Ronan Dojo, Uncoverable Misfits   logo,   counterculture,   rat poison,   many,  

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Many beautiful designs on there, and they're all for free. So go and check it out. I was talking with Econo Alchemist in Nashville, and I told him about all the wallpapers cause he saw my phone in the wallpaper,   and I said, you can download it too. And they went there, and I think he downloaded the ungovernable one. I bet he did.  

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That's something he would do. Yeah. That fits his personality.   He's very ungovernable.   Indeed.  

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We have user 857   something something. It says Safe Palestine.   Okay.   Okay.  

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I'll do my best.   Yeah. I'm I'm a get right there. Yeah. I've got some editing to do this afternoon, but I'm sure I can squeeze it in.  

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We have a couple sponsors for this show as well. This is not an unsponsored show. 2 of our sponsors carry over into this show. One of them is Alta Ear Technologies,   and the other one is Bifrost Manufacturing.   This show will release probably after   The   Ungovernable Misfits   Action news. Show? I think so. Alright. So you'll already be familiar with those sponsors. But how do they fit into a plebminer mafia, plebminer meshtadel   type show? Well, I think they fit in very well. For instance, Altair Technologies.   We mentioned it earlier, but mining is a big part of your sovereignty stack.  

We think home mining is a big part of your sovereignty stack, but also   larger scale mining as well. You can get Mhmm. Both of those Kind of orders from Altair Technology.   That's altairtech.i0,  

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by the way. It fits in perfectly. Like, Most people need heat in their homes.   That's where   using these miners,   certainly Dipping your toes in even if it's like an older s nine or something, and someone like Chet might be very kind and lend you 1 or give you 1, or There's many cheaper builds that you can build, or you can go all out and go and speak to Altair.   It just means that people can think of Clever ways to use this heat, and that offsets some of the costs. So we've seen all sorts like,   Karl heating the is it a yurt, he calls it? It's called a yurt. Yeah. So he's eating that, which is on that,   film. Maybe we can link that in the show notes, as well because that'd be cool for people to see. Okay. I think People were dehydrating   food with them and all sorts of things. So Mhmm. I think it fits in really, really nicely. Hey, he ships internationally.  



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If you find a location where you can fit a number of machines or you just want to build a bid axe or have a USB miner. He has everything from soup to nuts, Ships internationally   is quite used to the shipping international market. A lot of other retailers aren't interested in that, but he'll do it because he wants them SATs. Nice.   So increase your sovereignty, increase your sovereignty stack. Get to know this side of Bitcoin, the Bitcoin mining from if you wanna start small and grow larger. You can do that with Altair Tech. That's altair tech dot I o.   Our second sponsor   Also fits in well with the meshtadel lifestyle and ethos.  

When we had our conversation with Bifrost Manufacturing,   we were like, oh, this is awesome because we're we're doing a meshtadel show again. We're getting back to that. We had to explain what the meshtadel was and why that's so important to have a manufacturer   available to you. Most of the time, if you call somebody like that and say, I need a one off part, or I had just purchased   a few tractors   From an auction, and they are all missing this part, or I bought a lot of this. And they all work Besides this one particular part that I cannot find anywhere, they have a metal 3 d printer that can print you that part. And I say this, and I was also excited because I've had a lot of conversations with Joel in untapped growth when he was starting his Citadel down there. And one of the things that he wanted on-site was some sort of manufacturing   Because, of course, when shit hits the fan, the supply chains get crunched. We're very familiar with that. Guess what? Now you have your own way to jump the supply chain. You have this esoteric part that you can't make. You have this part that is too expensive.  

You can call Bifrost Manufacturing and have a one off done.  

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Yeah. It's really cool. It doesn't just stop at parts. There's loads of ideas that I've had for more of the creative side. There's some ideas that me and mister Crown have. There's some stuff for my art. There's so many things for both the pleb minor mafia and the meshtadel where you wanna build something. You wanna build it right. You don't wanna use cheap plastic shit. You wanna have something that lasts, and You wanna be using someone who does it right and accepts Bitcoin, and that's these guys. What I've seen so far,   incredibly impressive.  



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One thing that we wanna do as the meshtadel, and you and I spoke about this the other day, is go visit more people, go spend time with people more often. You did that recently at in Amsterdam.   Your Ben Gunn interview, I think you're gonna do a little bit more of these personal interviews, as well Brother Rabbit on a park bench and whatever the hell YouTube were doing there.   I'm doing the same thing. Went to Nashville that is kind of out of my I don't know. The things that I usually do, I usually don't take time off of work and go fly somewhere and hang out with people. I'm very much a homebody. All I wanna do is, like, be Shopping wood or building something or you know, that's that's more my speed. I get anxiety if I'm just hanging out. But I did that. I took the time to hang out with people. Dude, Lake Satoshi,   going to be doing the same thing with the guys from Bifrost Manufacturing. I'm going up to North Dakota, going to visit their facility. We're going to go ice fishing, Bond with them. So when I come back,   I will have a much better understanding of what Bifrost manufacturing   does and how that can be folded into   Bitcoin mining   and meshtadel activities, permaculture farming, the whole 9 yards. So stay tuned. We'll get much more insight with them on their capabilities. It's good. In the meantime, visit visit their website. Cool sponsors.  

Yeah. You're right. Cool sponsors.   I'm very proud of that, That we have these kind of sponsors. Me too. Less rug risk.  

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Less rug risk.  

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Say it one   more   time.   Less  

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rug risk.  

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There there you go.   Hey. We we had a, an interesting conversation   within the meshtadel recently   because of an article titled Jails around the country to release pedos,   as in pedophiles,   to make room for Amish milk sellers that was on the Bitcoin bugle by Dick Greaser.   Them Amish,   they're ungovernable.   The OGs.   Yeah. They are.   As I walk through the valley where I harvest my grain, I take a look at my wife And realize you're very plain, but that's just perfect for an Amish like me. You know I shun fancy things like electricity.   At 4:30 in the morning, I'm milking cows.  

Jebediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows. Fool, and I've been milking and plowing so long that even Ezekiel thinks   Even Ezekiel thinks that his mind is gone. Brilliant. This started off with, You know, of course, the Bitcoin bugle is   a parody website.   The number of people that   fuck shit.   I've been going this long with Bitcoin bugle material.   No. It's just that's just a joke. I was doing a parody. It is real news, as real as the New York Times. More real. Realer than real.   Realer than real.   That was in response to the there was a guy here in Pennsylvania, actually,   Named Amos   Miller,   I think his name was. And he had a he's a an Amish farmer guy. I don't know if he's full on Amish or Mennonite Neither I can't keep track of all that stuff. Central Pennsylvania, Amish country kind of guy. He had a storefront   that sold raw milk,   Grass fed, grass finished beef,   organic,   so on and so forth.  

And the State of Pennsylvania or USDA regulators   came and shut him down because he was selling all that nasty raw milk,   killing people.   Meanwhile, the people in his club,   it was, like, kind of almost an exclusive club, they all signed a waiver Saying, yeah. We know raw milk, this and that, homogenization, pasteurization,   so on and so forth.   We don't care. We're good for it. Eventually, they shut him down. So that's what sparked   the very accurate, 100%   accurate reporting, same as The Washington Post and New York Times,   By Dick Greaser, and then he posted that in the meshtadel. Well, not everybody knows Dick Greaser's style.  

So one of our Citadel builders   Chimed in   and said, well, you know what he needs to do? He needs more security, and you can't just have a storefront like that. You need to be able to stall people from coming on to your property so you can skate what you're doing and have teams of security, and   and it was a very passionate response. And I I didn't have the heart at that time to say,   That's, that's Dick Greaser story.   So I just like I'll let it go. You know? But it's good. It was good. That started off as a parody. That doesn't mean that's not thought provoking, and that's exactly what happened in the meshtadel. It functioned as it should. Here come all the voices chiming in. Unlike Twitter,   it's respectful.  

It's not, no, you stupid fuck. That's a fucking retard. Yeah. Didn't you know that? Or   Surely.   Yeah. Fucking a.   Actually.  

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To be fair, though, it is   unreasonable   to be doing that. Raw milk,   grass fed beef,   just selling it to people. I mean  

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How dare you?  

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Thank you, Greta. You little bitch.   I hate her. Damn, boy.   She's just an autistic kid who's a tool to the global elite. I know, but it's it's gone past that now. It's gone on to the first, I would be like, yo, little puppet. You know? Mhmm. I kinda feel sorry for you. You're obviously an artist, and your parents obviously controlling you, and they're being controlled by others. And Mhmm. I kinda feel sorry for you. And now I'm like,   no. You're not an idiot.   You see what you're doing. You've been doing it long enough, and it comes with some pretty nice perks, I'd imagine.   So, yeah, fucker. Alright. Let's get that bitch.  

That's another reason I've been training. As soon as I see,  

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I'm physically assaulting her. I don't know. That big, bulky arm coming down on her little skinny vegan face? I'll punch her straight square in the face.  

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Yeah. How dare you? How dare you?   Well, you break her jaws. How dare you? The first bit of nutrition she'll have is when her bloody nose Drips onto her tongue, and she goes, whoo. Who should think clearly?  

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Damn, boy.  

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I like bulking up Max. He's more aggressive. Yeah. Listen. We don't condone violence, especially against   autistic females.   This is just jokes.   This is a   joke. We wouldn't really  

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But might.   Fuck you. We might. This conversation that ensued after boy, we go on some tangents.   This conversation that ensued in the meshtadel Took place between our Citadel builder,   2 regenerative   agriculture   permaculture   homestead guys in the group, Solex, he was, like, the resident intellectual   Mhmm. And myself, who's a resident Retail. Yeah. I wasn't gonna insult myself in that way. I was gonna say something nicer. I was gonna say, like, more blue collar pleby kind of guy. But retard works. That's fine. Retard works. Yeah. Yeah.   To sum up their positions   in the Meshtadel,   our Citadel builder guy, he stresses, like, more of a comprehensive   defensive   Idea that you have to have a whole team structure going on there. You have to have, like, a reputation locally,   A story to tell. And I think as I'm going through this guy's position, if you don't know who he is, you haven't been paying attention. A story to tell. I think that's important as well. Political defensibility,   connections,   law enforcement connections,   physical defensibility.  

And that physical defensibility is is to buy you more time. Say, for instance, in this Amos Miller example, that he didn't have a storefront right on top of a state road Where the ins the f the USDA inspectors and the state police could just walk right up and walk into the building. But say there was a long country road that led to the Place where he had his raw milk and sundries and whatnot. That would buy you some time to obfuscate what you're doing. Perhaps dump out the milk,   Destroy paperwork or or your list of members, which I think is a huge I'd be pissed off as a member   That now my fucking name is is on some list that you didn't do anything to to obfuscate my privacy. Hey, Amos Miller. Cool dude. Glad you're doing what you're doing. Sell that raw milk and go to getrawmilk.com   and find find out somebody in your local area Low has raw milk and drink it. You wanna bulk up, drink some raw milk. He needs to learn about he needs to listen to Bitcoin monthly.  

Top tips in there for you. Okay. Very well. I will be tuning in. Or or or well, by the time I show I have already tuned in, and it was a great episode.  

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Upon the time this is out, for sure.  

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Another thing that our Citadel builder   stresses   is strong family units.   Mhmm.   I know hit his position here, he doesn't he doesn't have the kind of citadel where everybody's owning their little plots of land. His governance model is a little different, and That often gets discussed within the meshtadell. But the strong family units, 10 to 15 men to patrol your area,   Those are his sources of strength. Can't just be physical defense because what you're gonna butt up against that is a Waco situation, A Ruby Ridge situation. Mhmm. That you can't be these, you know, some freaky pastor who thinks he's the second coming of Jesus, who's marrying 8 year old brides   And hoarding tons of of weapons. You know, that's that's a little bit different situation than somebody who's will. No. Than somebody who's told their story, Has friends within local law enforcement,   does goodwill within the community, you know, getting out there maybe to a homeless shelter and and offering them Your beef for sale going to local farmers markets and selling your stuff there. That it's important to have politically connected people from your organization in local politics, State politics. Mhmm. Things of that nature. Just going back on what you just said about giving yourself more time. Mhmm. Sometimes that is the best defense.  



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Yes. Having weapons can be useful. Yes. Having a lot of guys who are patrolling can be useful, but Something as simple, like you say, like a dirt road that's maybe less accessible. Like, it doesn't have to have the smoothest   asphalt. You could have something that's, It's, a little bit more difficult to go down with a police car. Mhmm. That would give you some time. You could have a very cheap camera installed   So that you know when someone's actually coming through there or a sensor when someone's coming through there. So you know, I've got 5 minutes. You can have gates with padlocks.   You can have all sorts of simple   defenses that just take that extra time, And then you don't need to use the weapons because when they finally do arrive, you can say, oh, hello, officer. How are you? You know? Can I interest you in some pasteurized   milk?  

Can I can I interest you in all the things that are on your tick list? Oh, I can't? Oh, that's a shame. Okay. Well, you know, come by another time.   You completely avoid everyone getting doxxed. You completely avoid all of the bullshit, and you don't need to have a fight. That's at the end of the day, like, the best thing that you can do is stay off the lists And just stay out of their way and make it so boring that they don't wanna come back. Mhmm. You start having people patrolling.   You start to have that image. It's like, oh, I wanna see check out what's going on in here. That's the militia you're running there, sir. Exactly. You wanna see our governor.  

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We're going to embed federal agents into your group to get the dumbest motherfuckers in that group to admit that they want to kidnap a governor.   Excited.   Okay, damper. Now shut the fuck up, you dumb fuck. Don't you realize that's a that's a an agent that psyop you into saying that? But I hate her.  

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Exactly. You wanna be boring.   And on that point, I know we we were going off a little bit. Well, I was having a conversation with With someone who's   not in the meshtadel, but in spirit and in mind, they are. And they're a friend of mine who very much align. We were having this discussion. We were, like, talking about what happened   in Germany   and Weimar   and   Going through when money dies, and what had happened when the Jews who had the money when things were collapsing   were told by the elders,   Don't wear jewels. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Don't go and buy that property from those people who are starving for quite so difficult money and then brag about it. You don't wanna be that person. And so I think for people who are involved in Bitcoin,   involved in these groups, It's really important to   look back in history and remember,   guess what?  

Telling everyone, oh, look at me. I'm right, and I'm doing things differently. Lee and, you know, the rest of the world is collapsing, but we've got this great citadel, and we've got everything sorted, and we've got our own production of food and parts and everything else. Weren't we clever?  

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Mhmm. No.  

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You wanna shut the fuck up. You want no one to know you're there. You wanna blend in. You wanna be that great man. You don't wanna be driving flash cars or showing any wealth because   you become   A huge   target, not just for governments, but for everyone else who's suffering,   and planning that ahead is important. I think that's something that needs to be thought about when someone's planning a Citadel or a meshtadel or whatever it is that they're doing is like, okay. We keep thinking there's gonna be this collapse Because, logically, there has to be. It's gonna cause a lot of people to lose their jobs, ability to have food Mhmm. Maybe energy.   How are we gonna stay off the grid? How are we gonna stay out of   the reach of these people? And the answer isn't hide,   And the answer isn't guns. It's sort of somewhere in between. Sure. And so that's why these conversations are important.  



[00:52:27] Unknown:

It's you said you were getting off topic. You just nailed   every highlight from the other people in this conversation.   Oh. Okay. You know, I I have I have notes on all this stuff. I was like, oh, no. That guy said that. Oh, and Max said this, and that guy said that too.   I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with regenerative agriculture,   homesteader   number   1, he's doing a great job challenging the citadel builder with all of these questions. Like, you can be a gray man and achieve the same thing. You know, whether Citadel Builder would disagree with that, but this is why we have these conversations. You know, I said, like, oh, you can have all these people on patrol, but what if they send out drones   And get all the footage that they need to to get their warrant to come on to your property. And then somebody suggested, well, they make signal jammers. You know? You Should invest in signal jammers just as much as you instead of having 10 ARs, well, you only need 1 per guy and be sure that you have enough bullets. But let's not even get to that point. How about some signal jammers so they don't even know what you're doing in the first place? Mhmm. Souleks made the great point. I'm quoting him directly.  

The goal of self defense is not to defeat opponents but to make them averse to try in which utterly destroying an opponent is one of the many tools.   So Don't get in a fight in the first place, and you won't have to worry about getting destroyed or destroying your opponent. He also said do something that a big enough group in your area disagrees with, And you create a potential ally from your adversaries to oppose to the opposite and find potential allies for yourself.   Solex is so wise, isn't he? Yes. Regenerative agriculture farmer number 2's point was   be part of the community. If people see you doing good things and this is something the Citadel builders Said as well. But, you know, he's, like, making the point that there's a balance between trying to build, you know, the Citadel, Which he describes as, like, a soft fork from the current system. And just being a part of the community   that you're available to at the moment.  

Have   friends. Have a farmer that's next to you. Be his friend. Be part of the community. Do good things.   Can the authorities come after you? Can your life be droid by a government bureaucrat who has a craw up their ass? Yes.   But it's far less likely if you've made good friends within your community.  

[00:54:39] Unknown:

Yeah. Definitely.   I see that on a a personal level, like, around me and where I work. There are   Really good groups of people who all look out for each other, and there's a mutual respect and back scratching. So, you know, The mechanic looks after the farmer.   The farmer looks after them, gives them the food, and the welders look after PV. There's just a group of, like, 15, 20 businesses   and groups of families around where no one's fucking with them. Mhmm. Even when the pikies roll through, They never go onto the land of these businesses.   Oh, really? Yeah. They'll go everywhere else. They won't go there. People get left alone. Everyone's respectful.  

Nobody's, like, Causing harm so police aren't sniffing around.   Mhmm. It's just a nice environment, and no one takes the piss. And if you do take the piss, your business won't survive there any longer. Like, everyone   takes care of each other, and you have these long standing   relationships.   And that's what the meshtadel is. It's just   not in one small place. It's  

[00:55:43] Unknown:

spread all around the world. It's hard to get a foothold into those communities too.   To be able to have these powerful conversations within the meshtadel with people who aren't just   talking like you and I are doing, But they're doing it. It's exciting. Sometimes it's cool to be a fly on the wall for these things.  

[00:56:04] Unknown:

Did you want more than that? Compelling and rich.   Yes, John. I think it's amazing. I just love to observe what these guys are doing. It really is incredible.   Everything that we've just said, I wanna now repackage.   Yeah.  

[00:56:23] Unknown:

Alright. Alright. Fine.   We had a Christmas album that came out, our parody Christmas album. It was a lot of fun doing that. The meshtadel was very involved, Jackie Hottle, Liv,   Chet, Moses, Ahi, Carl.   I don't know. Am I missing Buddy in in that I don't know. Probably. Chestnuts.   Chestnuts   roasting on an open fire.   That was a good time. But we had a lot of boosts from that show. So starting out in blue, because I'm gonna be blue,   Abe Mettur and Dear, 2 orders of the long play cassettes, please. You got it. Vonta top notch. Merry Christmas, fuckers.   Grapevine, best album of the decade. Merry Christmas, fuckers.  

HODL on.   Do my best, buddy. Do my best.   Chet, goofballs. The German was the best. LOL. That was by Liv. Oh, Bitcoin.   Oh, Bitcoin.   I don't know what she said. And then Vake. Vic says merry Christmas, Christmas tree   present.   Vic's very sweet. He wants to give you a Valentine's Day card Yep. And he gives us a Christmas present Virtually. Well, I appreciate that, Vic. Thank you very much.  

[00:57:33] Unknown:

Username   404.   For spreading some holiday cheer,   Thanks, misfits.   Fistful of sats.   Merry Christmas.   Ungovernable   bitches.   That's sweet. Mhmm.   Lemur,   merry Christmas.   Gren   why do I find that difficult to read? Generator?   Generator,   7.   Feliz Navidad.   And for anyone who doesn't know, that's French for   happy Christmas.   Really? Okay. No. Not really. That's Japanese.   User 317602.   It would be funny if it was not true. Don't know what that part is about. Mhmm. Yeah. I don't know. But okay.  

[00:58:16] Unknown:

Deriminate.   No. D decriminalize   nature. Decrim nature.   That's a psilocybin   citadel.  

[00:58:23] Unknown:

The best, merry Christmas, you ungovernable misfits.   Present, mushroom. I guess the mushroom probably is a present from them. The present mushroom   tree,   present   mushroom. Maybe this would be useful for our other show as well. We were talking about Mehdi and trying to get on his level. Maybe we don't need to go all in with DMT or Ayahuasca. Maybe we could get these guys involved, and You can send out some mushrooms, and people can understand what that fridge is saying. Yeah. I don't condone any of that. Just use my manual platform.   Close with char  

[00:59:01] Unknown:

oh. Nope. That's that's a different color. The nobody told you to read anything outside of red. Listen. How fucking different is that color?   I don't know. You're right. Yeah. It's like one slight shade different.   Hey, man. You're a business. You gotta be able to pick up on these things. I'm also dyslexic and blind. So Nah. Fuck. Well, you're really swimming upstream.  

[00:59:23] Unknown:

It's amazing what I've achieved, to be honest. Yeah.  

[00:59:26] Unknown:

Just literally getting out of bed is a struggle. You did it every day, getting up early in the morning. Bulking. Bulking. Bulking. Bulking.   In parking. To close the show, we have a, new staff writer on Ungovernable Misfits, and we intend to do this a lot more to direct you over 2 ungovernable   misfits to read the articles by the contributors.   I think they're very good. It's a broad range of topics.   This article is about   the demoralization   of people by the media, by our institutions,   how we're being demoralized,   And maybe some solutions.  

We may not have the solutions to how we're being demoralized, but to recognize the fact that we are being demoralized in the first place is an important step. So this article is written by   Charles   Myriel.   He gave me a longer name to say This particular person's pen name, but I think it was just too French for the audience.   Charles   Milieres.   Nice name. Yeah. I think so. It was from a a play or book or something. I have to look it up. I sound like a a Luddite. Oh, no. It's from a book or something.   Gotta   read.  

To know what demoralization is, it is the act of corrupting or subverting   morals,   Especially the act of corrupting or subverting discipline,   courage,   hope,   etcetera, or the state of being corrupted or subverted in discipline, courage, Etcetera. So please head on over to Ungovernable   Misfits   dotcom   Writings   to read the full article   Michelle   Muriel.  

[01:00:59] Unknown:

I thought you were gonna read it there.  

[01:01:01] Unknown:

Do you want me to read the article?   I wasn't.   I could.   Oh, we should probably give people a little teaser. Would you guys like to hear a little teaser of this article by   Charles   Muriel?   Good idea. Nice little teaser. Yeah. One of my biggest passions in life is helping individuals heal, regain self confidence, and finding tools to assist in that process.   In the Western world, our society is traumatized.   Individuals have been broken down by following the COVID lockdowns,   2008 financial crisis,   911,   And now all the current wars. Media is one of the biggest tools used to traumatize individuals,   breaking down their sense of self worth in order to get individuals to fall in line for whatever the ambitions are of corporations and the governments that serve them.  

A person who has no self worth Will allow individuals to abuse them and believe that it is not only right but moral. The individual will then go on to demoralize others.   It's a domino effect. And what breaks the cycle is context.   The natural state of individuals is free. And despite the demoralizer's   best efforts, They will never be able to distinguish that. Giving individuals other options and context   allows for them to enter into restorative healing. The cypherpunk movement is still alive and well and is, in my opinion, one of the most effective ways to invite individuals   into real meaningful healing.  

I encourage all of you to read on on ungovernable misfits.com.   Is it already up there? Yes. It is. Mister Crown is on it.  

[01:02:34] Unknown:

We'll put the link in the show notes then, shall we?  

[01:02:37] Unknown:

Absolutely.   Okay.  

[01:02:39] Unknown:

Well, John, that was   pretty clean.   Might like to think so. I think we're pretty good.  

[01:02:47] Unknown:

We did okay.   Do you hear that? Bulk?  

[01:02:51] Unknown:

That's me paying myself on my swole back. Oh, yeah, boy.   Get you some.  

[01:02:59] Unknown:

Don't break your arm, patting yourself on the back.  

[01:03:02] Unknown:

Big thank you to all of the meshtadel   and the Plaid Miner mafia.  

[01:03:07] Unknown:

I think this would be fun to keep evolving this show. We'll see where it goes, but I'm just pleased to be covering it again. I think it's One of the most important parts of everything we've done with Uncouple of Misfits, and it's been neglected. So it's good to have it back. It is good to have it back, and I I always wanna talk about these things because they're exciting, and the meshtadel. I think this would be fun to keep evolving this show. We'll see where it goes, but I'm just pleased to be covering it again. I think it's One of the most important parts of everything we've done with Uncouple of Misfits, and it's been neglected. So it's good to have it back. It is good to have it back, and I I always wanna talk about these things because they're exciting, and the meshtadel. I think this would be fun to keep evolving this show. We'll see where it goes, but I'm just pleased to be covering it again. I think it's One of the most important parts of everything we've done with Uncouple of Misfits, and it's been neglected. So it's good to have it back. It is good to have it back, and I I always wanna talk about these things because they're exciting, and the meshtadel's a big part of my life, and, it's good. Any, closing thoughts? No. Not really. I just wanna thank everybody for being such fans of the show and and great supporters,   sending us boosts,   Buying clothing,   talking about the show, the number of people that came up to me in in Nashville to say that they they love Max and don't understand why I'm a part of the show was It was a lot.  

It was a lot, but there might have been one guy that said, yeah, I'm okay. So that was cool. I don't think so for it. Yeah. I don't know. Just everybody's great. Part of a good community. We're we're blessed, you and I, Max. We are. Alright, mate. Well, I look forward to the next one. Me too. Ciao. Adios.