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In this episode, Max chats to K about performance enhancements. Covering diet, supplements and pharmaceutical interventions and how you can own the keys to your health and make a beast out of yourself.
Some thoughts that were missing:
Proviron (Mestelerone) is dosed at 25-100mg per day
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Bitcoin. Now what's the Bitcoin?
[00:00:19] Unknown:
Bitcoin's like rat poison. Yeah. Oh. The greatest scam in history. Let's get it.
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Bitcoin will go to fucking zero.
[00:00:42] Unknown:
Welcome back to another Confab episode. This one is with my good friend, Kerim. He's been on twice before, both with very different subjects. In the last one, we covered all the different types of crazy drugs and mixes you could ever take to see aliens and entities and gods and some of Kerim's personal experiences. In this one, we cover health. Quite different, isn't it? But the common theme here is Kerim fucking loves drugs. Now the drugs we're talking about in this episode are to help enhance your health, and strength, and testosterone levels, and everything else. And although he is a very weird cunt, he's quite smart. He does a lot of research and really digs deep into this stuff. So I think you're gonna really enjoy this.
Anyone who is looking to improve themselves physically, this could be a very good show for you. One thing I'll mention is we didn't go into a huge amount of detail on why you might want to increase your testosterone levels or at least bring them up to a good level. You can do your research on this. There's many positives that come from this. We talked more about how to achieve it than why you should. But we've also said that you can ask any questions in the boosts or XMR chats, and me and Karen will go through all of those on the next episode. Quick thank you to our show sponsors, Foundation and k Wallet.
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Yeah. That's good. We actually I think I read that on the episode with Q or maybe the one with Seth, and we're saying we'd happily host something like that. If someone wants to send postcards, we can scan them, put them on the site. The rage, if you're listening and you're listening to this part of the show, let us know. We we'll happily host that. Anyway, I think that is all the boosts. So thank you very much to everyone who sent in Sats and Monero. We really appreciate it. It really helps us keep going. Enjoy the show.
He's back by popular demand.
[00:06:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you to I meant to check out the name of the dude who said, when is the stoner teacher dude coming back on? Such a good name for you. I know. Even though I've not been a teacher for a while now, and now I'm don't do anything. Now I'm unemployed.
[00:06:46] Unknown:
That's the ways to be. If you're gonna be a proper stoner, you do you do have to be unemployed. Yeah. It's true. I just don't wanna pay tax money to satanic pedophiles. That's all. Yeah. I think that is best. It's best not to feed them. Yeah. And that's what we want. We want everyone to be ungovernable. Yeah. You've left the Fiat grind, stopped paying the pedophiles. I've left the country to stop paying them as well. We're on the right path, mate. It feels good. And whilst I haven't left The UK, I have left England.
[00:07:14] Unknown:
We all know that you're in Guam. Yeah. A very specific island somewhere. I'm I'm gonna dox myself. I've moved to the very North of Scotland God. Out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. You'd be surprised. Since we arrived, it has been blazing sunshine. Absolutely insane. My lovely wife, Anna John was talking about having a pleb wife to support you. She had all these great ideas of being a homesteader. But, you know, I asked for a trad wife, and I got a Todd wife because she is a she's a big titty goth girl. And, like, she's just like, I can't go out in the sun. What did you think farmsteading homesteading was gonna be like? You have to be outside.
So she's actually tanned for the first time.
[00:08:03] Unknown:
But in true form, it has now pissed it down the last couple of days. Well, she'll be happy. I mean, Scotland will do what Scotland does, and it will give you disgusting weather 95% of the time. So Mhmm. Should have a wellies on, and she'll be very happy in the in the pouring rain and drizzle and gray. You know what's really weird is we're so far north
[00:08:25] Unknown:
that the daylight has thrown me wildly. Oh, really? It just doesn't get dark even at this time of year. I've been working most days just trying to do stuff, and I sort of think, oh, you know, you judge it by the daylight. I come in when it's twilight, and it's fucking 10:00. Oh. And then she's just like, I'm ready to go to bed now. Oh, okay. That's quite nice. It's good for productivity, for sure. Mhmm. But the flip side of that is what the hell is it gonna be like in the winter? Oh, it's gonna be dismal. Yeah. You're gonna wake up in the morning.
[00:08:55] Unknown:
Just any time that you wake up, it's gonna be dark. Yeah. And then it's gonna be about three or four hours of daylight ish, and then it's gonna be dark again. Twenty eight days of night. It's gonna be like that. Yeah. That's what it's like in parts of Norway. Well, we're level with parts of Sweden and Norway. So we are equivalent to the southern tip of the big schlong that is the Nordic countries. Well, I don't envy you short days and all of that, but I do like the Scottish band. I feel like at some stage, you'll start learning from that. You have some great band yourself.
[00:09:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm lacking in the bands. The people up here are so nice, but I do not understand them. Yeah. But the flip side of that is they don't understand me either. That Yeah. That is really weird. They're like, come again? For the best. You're like, what the fuck did you just say? Just now. Everything's just now. You want in this just now? Like, what? That sounded Irish. It does sound a bit it's kind of farmer y. Like I say, we're way north. We're near your favorite horse island of Shetland.
[00:10:02] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Where was it I drove was it Inverness? It's quite far north, isn't it? It's about as north as you go.
[00:10:09] Unknown:
Inverness is where my nearest Nando's is, but that's, like, well over an hour's drive.
[00:10:14] Unknown:
I drove up to Inverness with the world's biggest trailer and an underpowered truck. The thing overloaded to the point that it was, like, absolutely fucking ridiculously overloaded, like, probably double the way it should have been. And then the people who had strapped it down hadn't strapped it down properly. So roofing flew off all down the motorway, and then I had to gather it on the side of the motorway against strong winds. And then I got all the way up to Inverness after, like, probably about eleven hours of driving because I had to go really slowly up there. And then I get there, and they'd given me the wrong fucking postcode.
No. Oh, yeah. And then I finally get there to my hotel, whatever stupid o'clock. And then no one was on the check-in. So I was like, great. Like, wandered around this fucking random, like, castle type building. I was like, where the fuck is everyone? Finally find someone. They give me a key. I go in, and I'm like, do you know what? I'm freezing cold, and I'm soaking wet. I just wanna have a nice bath. So I went to go and run the bath, and there's no hot water in the whole hotel.
[00:11:16] Unknown:
K.
[00:11:17] Unknown:
Yeah. That was my Inverness experience.
[00:11:19] Unknown:
It was very beautiful, though. Oh, it's a gorgeous drive. I should know. I've fucking done it twice because I had to drive up with the the van, you know, rental van full of all the stuff. And then I had to catch public transport and fly back and then pick up my car and do the whole drive again. Very nice. And I managed to smash my phone by shutting it in the van door. So on the drive up the second time you know how much we rely on Google Maps type thing? Oh, yeah. I got it all the way to Glasgow, and then I just got really lost. And I was in a really dodgy part of Glasgow asking for directions. Just it wasn't my most calm moment. Let's put it that way.
[00:12:05] Unknown:
I can imagine that. You're a very calm beast usually, but occasionally. Generally, I think you're a pretty calm bloke, but you know that in there, there's there's Thor. Just
[00:12:15] Unknown:
a little shit. Yes. And that's what we're here to unleash today, the inner thaw in all the others. Mhmm. We always chat and go, oh, just come on again. What are we gonna talk about? But I heard who's that old man that you have on with a nice voice?
[00:12:33] Unknown:
How old are we talking? Like, extremely old or sort of mid late? Keep calling him your dad. I'm not sure.
[00:12:39] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. That'll be John. Yeah. He's very old. Very old. He's a great guy. Listening to him talk about how as a man, you know, he used to work sixteen hour days, and that was okay in his twenties and thirties. But as you get to your forties and fifties and I think John's into his sixties or seventies, I'm guessing. Oh, he must be. Must be. Your performance goes downhill. And I was honestly sitting there thinking, well, that's not the case because I definitely was in a much better shape in my thirties than I was in my twenties and was in better shape in my forties than I was in my thirties.
So it probably speaks more about the poor condition I was in in my twenties and thirties, but I said to you, like, let's talk about performance enhancement. Mhmm. And we know that Bitcoin's all about owning the keys to your wealth. Well, let's own the keys to our health. Oh, I like that. Oh, yes.
[00:13:35] Unknown:
Oh, yes.
[00:13:37] Unknown:
I practice my power. We probably need to do all the whole disclaimer y thing at the beginning as well to cover our asses.
[00:13:45] Unknown:
I don't really care. But, I mean, yeah, it's pretty obvious just like what we're gonna talk about. I think we're gonna go from a sliding scale of, like, little bits that you can do that normal humans will do, and then you can go, like, full retard mode like Aaron would do. Yeah. And just pump yourself fucking eyeball trend into your eyeballs Cow stuff. Yeah.
[00:14:05] Unknown:
Like, I don't think a disclaimer is needed past the point of, like, just just don't be a cunt. And if you are gonna be a cunt, you know that it's on you. Like, we're not suggesting to do any of this stuff. That's the disclaimer. Absolutely. And this is purely for entertainment purposes and educational purposes. If you copy what I did, you're a fucking idiot because I'm a fucking idiot. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. At the same time, I'm gonna talk you through some of the really effective things that are out there that can really make super duper improvement. To quote Hunter s Thompson, he who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Oh, like that as well. Do you know Hunter? Do you know much of him? I know him really well. Yeah. Yeah. Great guy. You know who I'm talking about at least. Yeah. I know who you're talking about. Yeah. The dude from Fear and Loathing. Right? Yeah. He made, Hunter's chicken.
It's exactly what he did. Yeah. Yeah. That was his real claim to fame.
[00:14:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Alright.
[00:15:01] Unknown:
So let's get into it then. We do need to cover some of the boring shit. Okay. The stuff that applies to everyone because not everyone's gonna train up to their eyeballs, obviously. No. They are not. Especially if you're a lady, but I'm not really sure you have any lady listeners.
[00:15:15] Unknown:
We have a few. We have a few. We have Hashlatter. We have a few others. Warm orange tart, we have. Okay. I just assumed this was part of the whole manosphere. I mean, you look just like Andrew Tate. I do not look like Andrew Tate for anyone listening. The only thing we have in common is a bald head. Yeah.
[00:15:35] Unknown:
Let's get into it. So start with food. And I'm not gonna dwell on all these things too much because we wanna get to the juicy stuff quite literally. But I do think it's really important to cover the principles of each of these things because if you're just jumping in straight into steroids or TRT or even growth hormone releases without getting the basics done, you are a fucking retard. There's a lot that you're gonna do first that needs to be checked off before you can allow yourself the pharmaceutical interventions that I know you're desperate to hear about.
[00:16:10] Unknown:
Yeah. So, presumably, you would do all the stuff that you can do naturally to boost all these levels anyway Mhmm. Then you check yourself and, like, right. Where can I improve? Do I need to because some people might be like, actually, their testosterone levels are off the fucking chart. Yeah. They're they're packing on muscle. They're really fit and healthy. And it's like, should you do all this stuff? No. You don't need to. You're fine. But then if someone's doing all this stuff and they're getting good sleep and they're eating well and they're training, but their testosterone levels are really low and they're struggling, then it's like, okay. Now this is where you've done everything you can that tree. Now let's see what we can do. Because the alternative is just living a more miserable life and just being a lesser version of your previous self, which is a pretty depressing thing to think. And if you can avoid that and be the best you can be, that's surely better.
[00:17:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Also, from my perspective, I'm tight as fuck. So if I can do something for free Mhmm. Or even save money doing it Yeah. Rather than spending money on pharmaceuticals, and there is side effects to some of these things, which we will all go into. What's the fucking point unless you got the money to burn Yeah. Yeah. Which I don't. Yeah. So start with food, and I'm gonna try and keep it to principles. Top principle is calories are king. In terms of your health span and your your lifespan and your health span, so what's the point in living to a hundred if you're a vegetable for the last thirty years? Yeah. So we want as long and as healthy a life as possible. One of the few things that is scientifically proven to actually increase lifespan is long term calorie restriction.
Mhmm. Look. We all know. What's the worst thing you can do? Be a fat cunt for your health.
[00:17:54] Unknown:
No. I think not eating at all is worse because you die quicker. But the second worst thing you can do is beer. Like, if you're a proper anorexia, you're gonna die before the fat cunt. I looked up the studies, and long term calorie restriction is gonna increase your lifespan. No. No. No. No. But we're talking in extremes. You know, we're talking like if you're gonna be a super fat cunt and you're gonna eat, like, everything that you possibly can, like a disgusting pig, it's gonna take you a fair few years to become a blob.
Whereas if you don't eat at all or at the absolute minimum and you're a proper anorexic,
[00:18:27] Unknown:
you're gonna die pretty quickly. But but I am taking it to the extreme level. Exactly. If you took it to the extreme level of the film seven where that geyser eats and eats and eats until he kicks him in the stomach and he explodes, similarly, you're probably gonna die equally as quickly. But if you live a life of extreme calorie excess or you live a life of extreme you are an anorexic but functional anorexic, you are still gonna be healthier as the anorexic. Than the fat cunt? Than the fat cunt. Yeah. You are gonna die quicker as the fat cunt than you are as the sort of terminally thin person. I know I said terminally them FFCs
[00:19:04] Unknown:
here. What's that stand for? It's double f. It's fat fat cunt. Just to emphasize the fatness. Yeah. FFCs. You could just say American.
[00:19:16] Unknown:
Good point. So that first thing, calories are king. It's really hard because calories are around you all the goddamn time. And the simplest way to do that is just just make sure that you are eating a restricted diet of energy as much as you can, and that's why people do intermittent fasting. That's why we have portion control and all this kind of stuff. You cannot get away from them in your daily life. Your mom's gonna feed you when you go around. There's gonna be donuts at work. There's always fucking food everywhere. One of the things that bugs me is when people get on some kind of bodybuilding or health kick, and they're like, I need to hit my calories for the day. And that is just not true. You are saturated with calories. Most likely, you're eating more than you are under. There are these random skinny cunts who can eat all the time and really struggle to put on weight. Mhmm. Those are the exception.
But for most normal people, you're getting too many calories. You're always going over your daily requirements, and you're putting on weight, and you're pushing yourself towards heart disease, diabetes, cancer, all these
[00:20:21] Unknown:
things. So calories are king. Keep them low. And it's the quality of the calories then, isn't it? Because it's like, you could have you could be eating 2,000 calories a day, and that could be made of steak and eggs. And then that's like high quality, high protein calories that are gonna be good for building muscle and sustaining yourself. Or you could eat, like, a really fucking shitty Iceland pizza that's got a full of, like, saturated fats and fucking disgusting chemicals and just bullshit, which is gonna be the same amount of calories, but is less nutritionally dense. That's true. This is where that saying calories are king
[00:20:59] Unknown:
is a little bit sort of controversial. People have lost weight on McDonald's. People have lost weight on the miles bar only diet.
[00:21:08] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:21:09] Unknown:
Because if you're under your maintenance calories, you're gonna lose weight whatever. Now, obviously, there is something about how you feed your body and the requirements for protein and how hungry you're gonna be if you're eating a fucking four miles bars a day. That's your entire calorie intake. You're gonna feel like shit. But you won't gain weight, and you won't put yourself at the risk of diabetes, heart disease, cancer. There is a real good source on this, a guy called Lane Norton. If you don't know Lane Norton, he's one of the few sort of workout diet gurus online who really is scientifically focused.
He's one of the few people I genuinely believe is natty. He's not a secret juice head claiming to be, and he's generally right about everything except sumo deadlift is easier, and it is also gay because it just looks gay. You spread your legs wide apart, like, you're gonna get bummed, and the bar doesn't move as as high. So it is gay, and it is easier. But, generally, he he will go into this kind of calories are king. He will deconstruct the carnivore diet. He'll also deconstruct vegan diets and shit like that. But, yeah, you're right that the quality of your intake depends on the macros and the micros. So we all know the macros are proteins, fats, and carbs, and we all know what the standard advice is. Like, I don't even need to tell you what if you wanna get healthier, what's the standard advice that you do with your macros?
[00:22:35] Unknown:
I'd say go the highest protein you can drop all carbs and sugars.
[00:22:40] Unknown:
Exactly. That is the single piece of advice that every fucking dietitian, every workout person, they all go fall back on that. Okay? And it's the reason why is because of what those three macros, proteins, fats, and carbs, what they do to the body. Proteins are what the body's made of. It's the raw materials that your body's made of. You're constantly needing to create new cells. You're growing hair. You're growing skin, nails. There are cells that are dying and being replaced, and those require raw materials. And that is what protein provides. So if you don't eat enough protein, you will die. The fats do start providing energy.
So they do provide the energy to keep you going. Now I said earlier, you don't need that much energy because it's all fucking around you. But fats also, particularly cholesterol, are the precursors for your hormones. So they don't just have an energy producing role. They actually have a hormonal role. So they are raw materials as well. And so if you have a fat free diet, you will eventually, on a long enough timeline, die.
[00:23:41] Unknown:
Mhmm. Carbohydrates,
[00:23:43] Unknown:
there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. Now this is where it gets controversial, and this is where carnivore, keto, all these diets sort of come in. But the simple fact is you just don't need carbohydrates.
[00:23:57] Unknown:
What about fiber?
[00:24:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean yeah. But you can get fiber from cruciferous veg, things that aren't high in carbohydrates. Like, potatoes are high in rice and shit like that. Brown rice is high in fiber, but it's also high in carbs. But broccoli, cauliflower, shit like that, they're high in fiber, but they've got hardly any carbohydrates to them. I don't think you need fiber. I've done the carnival for long enough to know that I could shit just fine. Same. There is that transition period, though, where you spatter the back of the bowel.
[00:24:29] Unknown:
Yeah. There was it was double hard for me as well because I went through a point where I was going carnivore, but I was also having a load of pre workout. So that was, like, the only thing that I was having that wasn't carnivore because, obviously, full of sugar and creatine and fucking whatever other shit is in there. So the mixture of going carnival with a very high fat and meat diet, and I was using quite a lot of it as well whilst training and having the pre workout and a lot of coffee through the day was troublesome.
[00:25:01] Unknown:
But then that's true of any significant dietary change because of the intestinal flora Mhmm. The microbiome of your gut. Yeah. When you're on a steady diet, the necessary bacteria to break down the things that your stomach can't digest are there and present because they've had time to adapt. Mhmm. Soon as you start changing it and you suddenly have a low carb, high protein diet, your body well, not your body, but the microbiome in the gut needs time to adapt. Mhmm. That diarrhea thing is not just from a carnivore diet. It's from any significant change in diet. Mhmm. And you can have that after antibiotics as well because that wipes out your microbiome, same as ibuprofen. I avoid ibuprofen like the plague because of the impact on that microbiome.
Does it? I never knew that. Yeah. I don't really fuck with any of the sort of over the counter medicines. You like the under the counter,
[00:25:51] Unknown:
round the counter, a reach around?
[00:25:53] Unknown:
I don't take any pain medication, paracetamol. Aspirin, I used that when I had COVID to thin the blood. I recommend any fucker who's had the jab to take aspirin, like a half aspirin every day. I've just got my parents to do that, and they're actually doing it now. They're taking a little half an aspirin every day. To stop the clotting? I mean, come on. Yeah. We're all aware of it by now. The coroners are seeing these long stringy white blood clots in the in the corpses. Come on, mate. That sounds like a conspiracy theory. It sounds like it can't be true that there's a significant jump in the amount of people dying. No. Because if it'd be on the news.
[00:26:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Like It would be. It's not like there's more people dying since the jibby jabbies than there were previously.
[00:26:37] Unknown:
No. No. Right. No. Because then there'd be there'd be more than just one dude standing up in parliament. You would think. Yeah. You'd think because they're all blackmailed.
[00:26:48] Unknown:
That is a good bit of advice, actually. I hadn't really thought about the aspirin, but and I didn't know about the Ibuprofen.
[00:26:54] Unknown:
Ibuprofen.
[00:26:56] Unknown:
Mhmm. Because I've always thought of that as, like, I sometimes take that if I've got, like, some swelling or, like, if I've got some sort of injury. Like, sometimes I'd be like, I'll just take a bit of ibuprofen to bring down the swelling. And I always think with these things, like, they don't really I I'd never really feel that different after taking aspirin or ibuprofen or any of these things really. It's more of like, oh, just take it just in case kind of thing. It's a fucking tea boy. Yeah. The only things that I feel work are if you get really, really sick, I swear by hot toddies.
[00:27:28] Unknown:
Sounds like something very posh.
[00:27:31] Unknown:
Hot toddy. No. You'll have it up in Scotland. People have it there. It's like, you get really sick. You get hot water, a lemon, clove, honey, and a decent splash of whiskey. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you mix that up, and it's genuinely you start to sweat more. You've got the vitamin c and all that stuff, like, good shit from the lemon, the clove, like, gets into your snout and starts cleaning all of that out. You get a bit pissed the more you have them, so you feel a bit better during the time you sleep, fall asleep. And every time I've done that, I, like, got under the covers and, like, smashed, like, four, five, six hot toddies.
Then I'll sleep for, like, twelve hours, and I'll wake up just in a pool of sweat and then feel better after a hot shower. Yeah. Sweat out fever. It's that kind of you know, there there's a reason why your body goes into that
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extreme heat shock is to Mhmm. Make the temperature unsustainable for whatever pathogen is causing it. But it's interesting you mentioned about inflammation and swelling and that kind of thing. Are you aware of the difference between your omega threes and six and nines? Because that's a huge thing.
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No. I would actually have no idea about that other than you get your omega threes from fish or those little,
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capsules or whatever, but I'm not sure about what the six and the nines are. So cod liver oil and your omega fatty acids are essential fatty acids that you need. What a lot of people don't realize is that they actually have impact on inflammation pathways in the body. Information is kind of like a silent killer in the human body. Your body will have all these different pathways. When something's a little bit wrong, like, your teeth are really important because if you have bits of shit between your teeth and you don't floss and pick them out, that food starts to decay. You get an immune response. You get an inflammatory response, but that can get into your blood vessels, and that can, like, go systemically. It can damage the heart. So it's really important that you floss your teeth for the immune response and the inflammation response. But the omega fatty acids that you consume have impacts on the inflammation pathways.
Specifically, omega six will increase the activity of the inflammation pathways, and omega threes will decrease the inflammation. If you're taking a mixed omega three, you can get some that will say three, six, and nine. That's That's actually not very good for you. Oh. Because you do want omega sixes in your body, but they are everywhere. They're in all of the shelf stable foods, you know, with cereals and breads and crackers and things like that, they're really prevalent in those. But the omega threes, which you do get from the fish and the fish oil, they're not as prevalent in your diet.
So the idea is that what you want to do is you wanna get a more balanced ratio of omega threes and sixes. Nine seem to be kind of neutral, so I would only ever buy omega three capsules, not the ones that have the omega sixes in. And I would take, like, three grams of those a day in an attempt to kind of readdress and rebalance the omega three and six levels to reduce the inflammation. So that's an interesting like, that's a whole rabbit hole on itself
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that you can go down. Okay. So I inadvertently was doing things right anyway because I only had the omega three capsules. That's good. Okay. Good to know. If you are obsessive about fiber,
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then like I said earlier, you can get cruciferous veg that's not high in carbohydrates, but you can also get a really great fiber supplement, a stuff called psyllium husk. It's spelled with a p, p s y l I u, something like that. Psyllium husk. And that I used to have a spoonful of psyllium husk in my protein shake as a keep me filled up kind of thing, and that can really help your fiber. I'll tell you what, though, give you the most amazing shits. Oh, really? Those hard ghosties. Yeah. That's what dreams are made of. Yeah. So if you are obsessive about fiber, then psyllium husk and it's cheap as shit. There was, like, an Asian supermarket where I used to live. You just go in and buy a box of it for, like, a £2 or something. And you need, like, a teaspoon a day.
So you could sprinkle that on your porridge or something like that, and it's really good stuff. If you are interested in fiber, you've got bowel cancer in the family. Doesn't hurt. There's gonna be a high proportion of people who listen to this show who are gonna be carnivores because
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Bitcoin types, like, all just follow each other. Mhmm. When one one's like, oh, I'm gonna be a carnivore. Everyone's like, oh, that's what we're gonna do as well then. So not that I haven't tried it myself, but there are gonna be a lot of people who are like that and and think that, like, yeah, if I was completely pointless, you don't need any of that stuff. Have you got thoughts on Well, I mean, I I was a big follower of,
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Mark Bell. I got a lot of my steroid advice from him, and he went heavy on carnivore and the war on carbs. And he was of the same opinion that you didn't need fiber. His brother Chris, who was a documentary maker, some great documentaries actually, Chris Bell, he would like to throw in fruit just because it helped him stay sane. Mhmm. I've had great results from a carnivore diet, but I didn't say strict carnivore. I went with the classic meat and two veg. That's what I ate. Mhmm. I might just eat four chicken legs for dinner. Okay. But I also might put some sweet corn and peas on the side. I had no problem with that. Cheese as well, yogurt and fruit. It's not gonna kill you to eat a bit of veg. There are some people that are like, oh, no. Fruit and veg are bad for you.
And, again, going back to Lane Norton, he would just absolutely destroy that, and he would pull out studies about bowel cancer and fiber. I'm not Mhmm. You know, I'm I'm with you. I I don't think you need it, but I think avoiding it because it's bad for you is retarded. Mhmm. And I think just trying to eat a meal that is just me is quite boring. It's not very sociable. It doesn't look normal. I'd I've been that guy who brings my Tupperware of food with me. That's retarded. Like, I wanna go to Nando's, and I'll order the chicken, and I'll get the sweetcorn and those macho peas. And I'll be like, fine. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I know what you mean. I think it works. Like,
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if you wanna just, like, drop weight I don't you know, I've talked about that on this show. Like, I went from, like, a hundred kilos down to eighty, just dropping a shitload of weight in, like, two months of doing carnival and then tapering off to, like, semi carnival kind of thing. And it definitely works. Like, if any FFC ever came to me, it's like, I wanna lose weight. I'll be like, right. This is the way to do it. Like, no question. I'm not even gonna talk to you about gym. Just gonna talk to you about this. This is gonna make the biggest impact, but after a while, yeah, it does get boring.
And I kept slipping up. My slip up would be carnival completely strict. Then I would go, maybe I could just add, I have a few berries. Like I would really crave berries and yogurt. And then I would be like another week would go and I'd be like, maybe I'll just add some honey to my berries and yogurt. And then, and then it would be, maybe just when I'm having that whole plate of meat, maybe I could just rather than just salt, maybe I could have a bit of hot sauce or, like, a little and then it would spiral out, and then it would be like, I'll be smashing fucking burgers and chips. So if you could not fall off too hard and have that middle ground like that put Paul Saladino guy does. Mhmm. He'll have some fruit, and he'll have some veg, and have some liver, and have some meat and whatever.
I do feel like that's probably a better, more sustainable thing to do because you can kind of go out and eat places and stuff. But also, like, we were talking off air the other day about cancer and sugar Oh, yeah. Which we maybe we should go into that a little bit. But I was thinking, well, if sugar is what allows cancer cells to live or produce or have you'd say it in, like, a sciency way, then fruit is sugar, and therefore,
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would you not be in a worse position than not having it? Well, I mean, as I said, if I was diagnosed with cancer, I would go on a very strict carnivore keto diet because of the Nobel Prize that doctor Otto Warburg won back in this sort of early thirties that proved that cancer cells cannot make ATP through any other process other than fermentations of sugars. So So they have to use sugar and convert that to make their energy because of mitochondrial dysfunction. It's that usual fucking snakey disclaimer y bullshit where they attack one thing he said. He was absolutely right in saying that cancer cells cannot metabolize without sugar. So they will starve to death and die if there's no sugar in your bloodstream.
But he then said, I believe that it's the cause of cancer. And they were like, oh, he's wrong because it's not the cause of cancer. Okay. He was wrong about it being the cause. But is he right that cancer cells will starve to death in a no sugar environment? Fuck. Yes. He's right. But they cover that bit up, and they'll attack the one bit where he's wrong. So that is absolutely true. If I was diagnosed with cancer, I would go on a strict, strict carnivore. No sugar would enter my system. And in actual fact, I'd probably keep my calories low because I don't want an excess of protein. Because even in an excess of protein, your body can convert proteins into sugars by gluconeogenesis.
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So hold on. So what you're saying is that actually getting cancer or avoiding getting cancer, you don't think that has anything to do with the consumption of sugar?
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I do. I do think it has to do with the consumption of sugar, but cancer cells are essentially a a fault in DNA reproduction. So you you try to make a new cell. Something's gone wrong in the code. You made a copy of a copy, and it's fucked up somewhere. That creates one of these mutated cells. Now that could be caused by radiation exposure. It could be caused by chemical exposures in the shit that you're eating, or it could be caused by some metabolic disorder because your body is just generally overloaded. If you're constantly eating, your body is in an anabolic or fat storing, energy storing state. It doesn't prevent all of the catabolic processes. You've heard this term autophagy. Mm-mm.
Okay. So autophagy is a process where when your body is in, like, a calorie deficit, it clears out and cleans up, and it gets rid of all of the shit, all of the dead cells, all of the misfolded proteins. It sort of cleans up and does a a clean house. Now Mhmm. Your average Internet diet guru is gonna tell you, you just need to be fasting. And Mhmm. Again, going back to this, like, super autistic Layne Norton dude, he's gonna be like, no. You have autophagyal processes going on all the time, but they are more
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active in a low calorie state. Right. Which is why they say after thirty six or seventy two hours, you're repairing and getting rid of dead cells and all that kind of stuff. I didn't know what the word was. Yeah. That's it. But it's always, like, after this amount of hours, which I think is, like, either thirty six or seventy two is what I keep saying. And I'm like, that's annoying because I tend to only do like, the most I tend to do is about twenty four hours. Average fast for me most days is probably
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fifteen, sixteen hours, something like that. That's good. It's bro science, essentially. You could be eating every two hours. But if you're eating below maintenance calories, so you add up the calories for the day that you've eaten and it's below the 2,200 or whatever that you naturally burn as your basal metabolic rate, you will be having autophagal processes because it's like a fire. If the fire is burning low and you're just putting little wood shavings in, but if you're if you overload the fire, it can't burn properly. And that's kind of the a model for your metabolic system.
You want to make sure that you're burning off a hot fire and you're getting rid of all your crap. Whereas if you've got a fire that you just keep chucking shit into it, fire's gonna get clogged, stuff's gonna back up, and your burn is gonna get full of crap. And that's basically what's going on. Autophagy does depend on your your total calorie intakes. Again, calories are king. Mhmm. That's why it's the number one principle. But, yeah, I think we've ticked off pretty much all of the dietary stuff. We had taken a lot longer than that than I was hoping. But, Don't be a fat
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cunt. Yeah. Don't consume too many calories. What you do consume, try and make it generally high protein. Yeah.
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You do not need fucking carbohydrates. I will die on that hill. You do not need carbohydrates. There's no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. There are essential fatty acids. You do need proteins. So, obviously, the most logical diet is a high protein, moderate fat diet with some fruit and veg. Micronutrients, we discussed the fact that your omega fatty acids, the omega threes are preferable because you're probably getting your omega sixes. Other micronutrients that people are naturally quite low on are things like zinc and magnesium. Mhmm. And there's a great bedtime supplement called ZMA. K. Now I cannot recommend this enough.
It's cheap as shit. You can buy generics of it. You can buy branded versions, but ZMA is great. It's one of those supplements where I noticed an immediate effect when I started taking it, and it was like I slept really well. I had crazy dreams, and I got nice big jizzy loads. So Okay. What's not to love? Well, they're all good things. Exactly. Exactly.
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Big, jizzy loads.
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Magnesium is known as a bit of a muscle relaxant. If you are someone who takes stimulants like MDMA and then your jaw's rolling and chattering, it's because you are deficient in magnesium. So Oh. Supplementation with ZMA, zinc magnesium, and aspartate, which is kind of a vitamin b six or twelve. I can't remember.
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Not that I've ever taken MDMA, but if I had of and I had of had that jaw thing, that definitely means then that I'm deficient. It couldn't be any other reason. You are taking a powerful drug, but it definitely
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helps the muscles to relax. You know, in that extreme if if it's doing that in an extreme state where you've taken some kind of, you know, pharmaceutical and it can relax the muscles, imagine what it's doing to you normally on a Thursday night when you've just had a cup of chamomile tea and you go to bed, and you take a bit of magnesium. And then your muscles all relax. And we all know magnesium sulfate, which is what they put in the bath salts, not the crazy bath salts.
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Not the McAfee bath salts? No.
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No. I can't remember what they call that. Anyway, you put the bath salts in. What that does is it's magnesium sulfate, but it will soak into your muscles and relax the muscles.
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So bugging me. What that fucking Oh, well, you wonder what the salts are called, you mean? Yeah. Barf salts. Yeah. It's Epsom salts.
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That's the fucker. Yeah. Epsom salts. Yeah. Yeah. So it does absorb through the muscles and cause you to relax. So, again, muscle relaxant. So ZMA, and we all know vitamin c because it's an antioxidant. And, of course, vitamin d Mhmm. Get out in the fucking sun. If you're not in the sun, get your vitamin d. Sun does not cause sunburn. Lack of sun exposure causes lack of vitamin d, and then extreme exposure to the sun causes sunburn.
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Yeah. I was just about to pull you up on that because I'm like, I have been sunburned.
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Sunburn doesn't exist. It does, but this idea that skin cancers are primarily caused to sun exposure doesn't really hold water because, like, the parts of your body that are most exposed to the sun, the top of the ears, the nose, these parts don't actually often get skin cancers. The melanomas are found in the arms and, you know, various places that on the back, things like that. A lot of people are saying, bro scientists online
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Don't say it's sunscreen that's causing it. You can't.
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I do think there are cancer causing some chemicals in sunscreen. Smearing heavy metals like titanium on your skin, probably not a great idea. But No. Like, gradual sun exposure throughout the year is just the simplest thing. Like, I ride a bike. So I go out as soon as it's slightly sunny in March and April. I get a little bit of sun exposure. You get more and more and more effect. Yeah. I don't get burnt. Mhmm. I never get burnt. Yeah. Easing into it. The problem is most people spend all of their fucking life indoors, and they'll go out on a hot August day in shorts and flip flops and a fucking vest, and then they'll get absolutely lobstered and then go, oh, I wonder why I got sunburn.
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Yeah. That's true. Yeah. You you go on holiday and you're like, sunscreen? Don't need that shit. Day one.
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In fucking Portugal or somewhere like that.
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Yeah. I've done that before, like, a couple of holidays ago where I hadn't barely seen the sun for, like, a year, and I just went out day one. Missus was sick, and I was like, ah, get out by the pool. Just got battered on cocktails and just lay there with no sunscreen. And the next day, it was in
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Mhmm. Unbelievable pain. I bet you were wearing sunglasses as well, weren't you? Yes. Yes. I was. Yeah. So your eyes are photoreceptors. And based on the amount of light that your eyes are detecting, your body will release a chemical, melanopsin, which will help protect you from the sunburn. But if you've got sunglasses on, the melanopsin release is not as high, so you're more likely to get sunburn if you're wearing sunglasses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I I did it all right. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you do it on holidays, isn't it? Yeah. You were hammered. You got burnt by the pool. Yeah. Right. I've got loads on here, but should we just get down to the juicy bit, which is the performance enhancement? Because I'm sure people could talk about training and sleep and all that shit. Yeah. But should we just let's just get to the good stuff. Yeah. Let's do that. I will quickly say, everyone who thinks they're training with weights, you're probably doing it wrong, and you're probably a pussy.
Go and have a look on a website called EXRX and look at the strength standards. Look at your body weight and look at your lifts. If you don't know your one rep maxes, you're definitely doing it wrong. You should be able to squat one and a half times your body weight for five reps. If not, you're a beginner. Okay? Okay. If you can't bench press somewhere near your body weight for at least three reps, you're a beginner. Okay? These are real basic tests of strength, and these strength standards come from the fifties. Long and short of it, go and get a five by five program. There's loads of free ones. Mark Ritos, Texas Smith. Don't be a pussy. Don't be a pussy. Get on something serious like Wendler five three one. Get fucking strong. Don't be doing some bodybuilder program where you're doing 10 sets of 10 reps that's gay. Five by five.
I did all my training naturally at the beginning when I first started lifting weights, and I got up to squatting a 50 Kilograms. For three sets of five, deadlifting a 80 for sets of five, shoulder pressing sort of 50 for five reps, and benching sort of sixty, seventy. I've got a problem in my shoulders from it, so that is a shit bench. But all of those are achievable naturally within a few months. Mhmm. And if you aren't doing that, then you're a pussy, and you need to get on a proper strength training program.
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Okay. So that's all I can say about that. Glad we cleared that up. I would be in that pussy category now then because I don't have a gym where I am now. So all I have is a TRX band thing, which I just hang off something, like hang off a beam that I've got and then just do all body weight stuff. Because I'm so strong, I'm doing reps of, like, twenty, thirty on most of these things because there's just not enough weight, unfortunately. So I would be in that pussy category. There's always ways you can make it harder. Like,
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during COVID, I didn't have access to a bench, and that was difficult. You know? I couldn't squat, so I was doing fucking deadlift reps. And this is in upstairs in a flat. The poor, well, poor cunt below me complained and was being a dick about it. So fucking but, yeah, I was doing a lot of deadlifts as heavy as I could and a lot of shoulder press. But in order to keep my chest good, I would do, like, you know, the push ups, but I'd be putting my legs really high up. Mhmm. So your kind of body's at a diagonal pointing downward. So there's always ways to increase the load.
I'm not sure that increasing the reps, but at the same time, I ended up doing, like, hundreds of push ups every night Yeah. At some point just just to keep it going. And it did fucking work when we got back into the gym. And then I was like, let's see how a hundred kilos, which is two hundred and twenty pounds for the yanks. It was good. It was good. It was there was a very minimal drop off. You know? And I was like, okay. So push ups and shit can do a lot. Okay. Good to know. Okay. Let's get into the real stuff. We spent nearly an hour chatting about this. How do we improve our performance and improve our health quickly and easily with some pharmaceuticals? That's what everyone really wants to know. That's what we're on the know. The number one thing I'm gonna recommend for everyone is a growth hormone secretagogue.
So what this is is something that you can take that causes your body to naturally release human growth hormone. So it's not same as putting human growth hormone into your body. It's not exogenous. It's not stuff from outside. Mhmm. You're telling your body to release more. Okay. It's a very simple oral medication that you can take called MK six seven seven. Now do check the legality of this in your place. Like, in The UK, this stuff is just order it online, and it comes through the post. That's it. And it's not illegal. It's not regulated in any way, shape, or form. And I've never really had any problems with quality. Olympus Labs do some good stuff, but I've just bought generic MK six seven seven a bunch of times.
And I know it works because the only side effect I've ever noticed is I get quite hungry.
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Okay. Is it expensive?
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Not really. I mean, a bottle of fifteen milligram pills, about, say, let's say 60 pills, They're about $30.40 quid in The UK, so maybe $50 if it's equivalent pricing in The US.
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That's still quite a lot, though. That's still, you know, $50 a month.
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Yes. But you don't need to run it forever. Right. You run it for a month. It's one of those great supplements that you can just take, and the benefits aren't immediately realized, but they last a really long time. Okay. So with increased growth hormone in your body, it's basically like a teenager. You know, teenagers have really high levels of growth hormone, obviously, for that growth spurt that they go through. Mhmm. The things that you'll notice, that quick healing, that crazy teenager sleep Mhmm. A bit of an increased libido, I noticed as well, Some increased hunger, but a decrease in body fat and a very slight increase in musculature. It's not gonna pack the pounds on you. Mhmm. It's not really gonna be noticeable.
It will improve performance. So I did notice my lifts going up. You know, I track my one rep maxes when I did this the first time, and, yeah, there was a real bump in the lifts. Mhmm. So that was noticeable. Don't expect to see results for the first three weeks. Takes a while to kick in, but, like, by week four and five, you're just like, ah. And then the long term benefits you start to see are improved skin, hair, nails, like decreased wrinkles, I believe, like a younger looking face. Yeah. I reckon that one is a no brainer for me. If someone said to me, look. I wanna take something. In fact, I recommended it to a colleague a while back. And just, you know, you throw out these recommendations. You don't expect anything. And he came back to like, I saw him a couple of months later, and he's like, oh, I got that m K677.
It was great. It's brilliant. I love it. Thank you so much for that. Oh, right. Okay. Cool.
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So you could sort of do it you could, like, maybe cycle it. You do it, like, once Yep.
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Once a year or once a quarter or something like that. My sort of pro recommendation is get as much as you can and take it for as long as you can. Right. I will say, if you already have a cancer tumor, that motherfucker's gonna grow.
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Okay. So, yeah, don't don't do that.
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Don't do it if you've got cancer Okay. Or if you're a fat cunt. Yeah. I've already given you the first thing that you can take if you really wanna start using pharmaceutical interventions, and that's an oral medication. Beyond this point now, it's needle time. Okay? So we're gonna start you off with some more growth hormone secretagogues, but these are gonna be used with the insulin needles. So that there's very small little needles that you see scattered around in the street in lovely areas of built up cities. Mhmm. So the difference here is MK six seven seven is kinda like a sledgehammer. It will increase your growth hormone, but it all it will do is just get your body to release the maximum amount. Now there are other growth hormone secretagogues that, well, are only active through either injection or you combine nasal sprays.
Mhmm. Nasal sprays are apparently very effective, but they're more expensive because you're using a lot more. You know, if you're injecting it, it's going straight into the body, whereas if you're sort of nasaling it, much of it's kind of exhaled and wasted. So there's a couple of compounds that I'm gonna recommend. One's called ipamorelin, and one is called CJC twelve ninety five. Now peptides, which is what these are, they're not like hormones. Hormones is kinda like a a master key that you go into a building and you can open loads of doors and flip loads of switches and turn loads of shit on. Whereas peptides are much smaller molecules which only activate a few discrete pathways.
So they're a lot more controlled. They have a lot more specific effects. Okay. I can't remember which way round it is. I think the CJC twelve ninety five increases your body's ability to produce growth hormone. So it kind of fills your reservoir and increases the reservoir of growth hormone that's there in the pituitary gland. If you take CJC twelve ninety five and a growth hormone releaser like ipamirillin or MK six seven seven, together, those are gonna have it's like a one plus one equals five kind of deal. Mhmm. And I got my little notes here. So saturation dose is at around a hundred micrograms per kilogram.
If you then go up and double the dose, so say you take two hundred micrograms per kilogram, you're only gonna get a 50% result. Right. And if you then double again to get four hundred micrograms per kilogram, you're getting a 75%. So there's no point. You get this diminishing return as you increase it. Mhmm. So I was using a hundred and fifty micrograms of ipamorelin and a hundred micrograms of CJC twelve ninety five a day as a sort of mixed injection.
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Okay. And this just goes into your belly fat, doesn't it?
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Yes. You're not inject I've never injected anything at all into my bloodstream no matter how much of a drug fiend I come across as on the previous pod. I've only ever injected, like, intramuscular or, subcutaneous, so into the body and belly fat. So Okay. Yeah. And it it's not that bad. Like, my buddy I'm gonna talk about TRT next. My buddy has just started it. He's gone for a clinic. And, you know, I said to him, well, how did you find pinning yourself for the first time? And he was like, oh, yeah. It was pretty sketchy, scary, but he's been doing it into the belly fat. Mhmm. And I was like, I remember when I first did it. I fucking you know, all the juice heads online, they tell you to buy this, that, and the other. And it's like I used the McDonald's straw to inject it into my ass. Mhmm. Just were, like, literally right into my asshole.
And I've done it in my shoulders, which was horrible. I wouldn't recommend that. But, the injecting can be quite sketchy and scary. There are loads of people who do it every day with insulin and things like that. If you try MK six seven seven and you're kind of like that, this is impressive, and you wanna go to the next step and try the epimeraline and the CJC twelve ninety five, you can buy the nasal sprays, but it's much cheaper and much more effective in the vials. Do make sure you use proper bacteria, static water, and good sterile principles. You know, wipe your vials. I always used to keep my vials in the freezer and defrost them. Mhmm. Because these compounds, once mixed with water, they do start to degrade slowly.
Okay. So I just freeze them and defrost them and use them, or I'd fill up my syringes and then freeze those. Just take the syringe out and use it and bin it. Do get a sharps bin. Sharps bins don't cost a lot. It's nice. Some poor bin man worrying that he's got AIDS because he's jabbed himself on your growth hormone to create a cogs. Yeah. That's a good point. Don't be a cumber. Don't be a cumber.
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Yeah. The the thing is with the injectables, like, for me, just being a pussy, like, I fucking hate needles. So for me, I'd instantly be like, nah. That's not for me. That's just not not for me.
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They are so thin. I I've got my packet here. What are they? They are 30 gauge, naught point three mil. So it's a third of a millimeter wide. Mhmm. Like, you really can't feel it. You really can't, especially when you're sticking yourself in the belly fat.
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I guess the fatter you are, the more comfortable it is.
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I don't think it really makes any difference. Like, I personally, when I do injections because the next thing we talk about is straight TRT. Mhmm. I actually take my time, put the needle just on the skin, and I look for a point where it hurts less. Mhmm. Because there are some points where it hurts a lot more. Mhmm. There's more nerves in that part of the skin. Mhmm. So there are times when I go to put, and I'm like, no. That hurts there. And I just move it, like, you know, just like a few mil across. And then the next point, it just doesn't hurt as much. Okay. And if you watch how nurses do it, they will just fucking jab it in Oh, okay.
Press it down. I'll always sit down, take my time. I always buy the isopropyl alcohol wipes and wipe the piece of skin first. Mhmm. Because if you don't, you can get infected. Mhmm. And that sounds worse than it is. But I've had red rashes where I've injected too fast or forgotten to wipe beforehand. Do follow good procedures and do take your time. Mhmm. I can just say that. If you wanna go beyond the growth hormone secreted gogs into testosterone, you are gonna have to use needles. There is no orally bioavailable test.
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Okay.
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There is stuff that you can get. There's an oral tablet called Proveron, also known as mestelerone, and this has androgenic activity. So steroids are actually known as AAS, anabolic androgenic steroids. Now that means they have two modes of function. The anabolic, I'm sure you can guess what that means. But the androgenic is more the sex hormonal side of things. Mhmm. If your reason for wanting TRT is not that you're puny and have your skinny fat and all this kind of stuff, if your reason for wanting it is low mood, low energy, poor sleep, and your PECCA just doesn't work, but you're you're happy with your physique, do consider Proveron, mestelerone as an oral option. Okay. You can avoid the needles, and you can have the androgenic effects. So improved mood, improved sleep, improved sex drive, improved sexual performance, all of that will come from Proveuron, mister Lorraine.
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Okay.
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So that can work. And if you were wanting to add in some anabolics on top, you could do that. The problem is that most orals are liver toxic. Proveuron is not liver toxic.
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Okay.
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So there's a standout TRT type drug that will give you some benefits without having to use needles.
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Good. Okay.
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But test is best. Test is best. Let's be honest. Testosterone, it really is. Now we wanna talk about TRT because that's what everyone really wants to hear about, is the dosage of test. Test is pretty easy to get hold of in The UK and know that it's super illegal in America. In The UK, actually, testosterone is legal to possess. If I went to a country where it was legal, so let's say I went to Thailand and bought a load in a pharmacy or Mexico, if I fly back to The UK and it's in my suitcase, if as long as it's for personal use of body modification, that's perfectly legit and legal. Mhmm. Okay. And if I'm caught in possession, that's perfectly legit and legal as well. So we actually have really good sort of liberal laws around testosterone in The UK and steroids.
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Okay. So UK is fine. America,
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not? In the land of the free, it's fucking hard. I I I've I've seen videos of guys driving. You know, if you live on near the border, they'll drive into Mexico. You know, they'll shoot all their gear and then just drive back with nothing on them because they're so scared of the border patrol catching them. Ah. Again, it is legal in the pharmacies in Mexico. You can just buy it. But, yeah, I know people are stuffing their cars, pulling apart their dashboard, and shoving
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little vials in. It's super illegal in America thanks to fucking Joe Biden back in the eighties. What a cunt. But so What a cunt. You can do it, though. You just gotta go to a doctor and pay presumably quite a lot of money for them to do it for you.
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Yes. So my buddy who lives in London, and he's pretty well off, shall we say. He's gone private, and he's got a script for his test. And they've done a decent job. You know? I look he he sent me it and said, this is what they've they've told me to take. And I was like, that's good. That's good. I would not have recommended anything different to that. Yeah. So he's on a hundred and fifty milligrams a week. When I was on I'm coming off I've stopped taking tests now. I was on two hundred mix a week, which is kind of the sports dose. Mhmm. You know? It's kinda like Tom Brady kind of level. Mhmm. It's like really high natural. It's it's within the natural range, but it's at the top end of it. Yeah. Whereas an actual steroid cycle, like, I'm gonna get juiced up and get big, they start at around 500 a week. Oh, shit. Okay. I've taken
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a thousand a week. Oh, you can. Tom Brady's on two hundred, and you're on a thousand.
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There's loads of dudes that have done way worse. Way worse. Okay. It gets a little confusing with testosterones as well because there are these different esters. So they all have the they have, like, an oil attached to them. Mhmm. So you inject it into your body, and the oil dissolves into the fatty tissues. And then the body there's there's a enzyme that breaks the ester off, releases the free test, and it gets it out. And the longer the ester that's attached, the slower it takes to release. Okay. So if you were to get something with a really long ester, so a decanoate ester, it will stay in your body a long time. It will release slowly.
If you get a really short ester, like propionate, that's a lot quicker. My buddy, he started it, and I was like, how are you feeling? He's like, two weeks, nothing. I was like, yeah. Because he was on enanthe, which is the most common ester. There's enanthe and cipionate, which are both very similar in terms of the ester length. I personally preferred enanthe because the ester's slightly lighter, so you get a little bit more test for the money. Okay. Because the weight the number of milligrams that they put into the vial, if the Ester is slightly heavier, then you're paying you know, you're getting more Ester than you are test. So, yeah, I would recommend an anthate. But if I'm absolutely being honest, I would buy a proper bodybuilder blend called t 400.
That normally is a blend of very long and some short ones. If I was gonna recommend someone to get some if you were buying it yourself, obviously, the best way to do is go to a clinic, go see a doctor. But it's very cost effective to go and just buy some shit yourself and just use it. Mhmm. And there are lots of forums. There are lots of boards available. Simple, easy way, if you don't wanna fuck around, buy some enanthe or some saponate and take, let's say, half a mil a week. Use a small insulin needle, wipe the top of your vial with with the wipes, sterile wipe, stick the needle in, suck out half a mil, wipe your belly, stick it in your belly fat, and inject it. Watch YouTube videos on all this stuff. It's all there. Mhmm. That's a nice, quick, and easy one. If you wanna be a bit more, like, fancy pants about it, there's a blend called Sustanon, which has a blend of these short acting esters and these long acting esters.
And that will mean that you get that immediate bump, and you also get that long term effect. Okay. Because if you're just using the short acting stuff, which are like a athlete will use, you have to inject, like, every day or every other day. Oh, shit. Ball ache.
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Okay. It's real ball ache. And if you're if you're using the other one, it's what? Weekly? Or
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Yeah. I would just do a one weekly injection. Okay. A one weekly injection of half a mil of t four hundred. So I'd get two hundred milligrams of test every week. It was long acting esters that would slowly release, and I had a nice consistent level. You feel great. Top of the world.
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How would somebody do the testing, like blood test? Presumably, when you go to a doctor, they presumably are gonna sort of check your bloods every
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so often to make sure that you're in the right range and then adjust accordingly. Like, how would you go about doing that if you're doing it at home? Well, here in The UK, I just went to the doctor and said my dick don't work, and I and I can't sleep. And I listed a whole bunch of low t symptoms, and I said, I think my test is low. Mhmm. And they did a test for me and actually managed to get a couple of tests out of the NHS for me doing that. Oh, wow. I knew that my test was low because I just finished the cycle. So we'll get into this in a minute, but when you take testosterone exogenously, your natural production shuts down.
Okay. This is the real issue. So I knew that I was gonna have a low test result. I went in, and the result was low because I just wanted to check my post cycle therapy was working. Mhmm. And then they scheduled a retest, and I was taking these post cycle therapy drugs, Clomid, clomiphene citrate, and nolvadex. But Clomid and nolva, if you look up PCT, which stands for post cycle therapy, you'll you'll find loads of people talking about shit online. I personally don't ever advocate PCT. I think it's one of the worst things to do because what you take is these kind of estrogen similar chemicals.
The reasons why is too long to go into, but it can make you feel quite miserable Right. Emotional, hormonal, irrational. You know, if someone asks you where you wanna go for dinner, you have no idea.
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Right. Okay. Like, you are literally a female.
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Yeah. What I found after a lot of trial and error was there's a it's a compound that, again, it's freely available in The UK called HCG. So I personally would not recommend anyone take testosterone or any suppressive androgen hormones without HCG as well. HCG stands for human chorionic gonadotropin. So what it does is it's it tells your balls to work. Okay. The way your system, your HPTA, works is that there's an on switch. That's it. There's no off switch. There's just an on switch. Okay. So when test is low, the brain presses a button, and then that fires the testes up. You start injecting loads of testosterone. Testosterone level is high, and it goes, oh, it's really high, and it stops pressing the button. Mhmm. You stop releasing any gonadotropins.
And then this is where the small dick myth comes from. Test, if anything, test will cause your dick to sort of swell a little bit. If you combine that with things like Viagra or what's the other one, Cialis and a dick pump, you can actually put an inch on your dick. K? I'm not joking. Go check out Mark Bell's Power Project, the episode where they have Susan Bratton, I think it is, the sex specialist that goes into all this stuff. And, like, it's fucking hilarious because they're like kids in a candy store just laughing away at this milf talking about dick pumps and and all this kind of stuff. But, they went through a whole phase about sexual health because they're like, Mark's a big juice head. They're they're very open about it. Like, you can increase your dick size. So but your balls will shrivel. Okay? And I know this the hard way that, like, firsthand, I've had, like, fucking they look like Places. Cats.
Yeah. Tiny little things. So I'm coming off of everything now because I wanna mind some kids, hopefully.
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Mind some kids.
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Yeah. But, unfortunately, my servers are were looking a little bit depleted. So I've stopped the test, and all I'm on now is HCG. And, like, literally, the other day, I walked into the living room with my plums in my hand. I just sort of showed the missus. It was like, look how big they are. Full size again. And, you know, going back a couple of months, I remember going, babe, look how small they are. Like raisins. Like, so big. So tiny. So this is the real, for me, the problematic side effect of taking hormones. Any kind of androgenic hormone is that you are gonna shut down your own natural production. If you've got four kids and you don't want any more, like, give a fuck. Yeah. Like, that was kind of the reason I started on TRT. I just kind of, like, early forties, single, and I was like, it's not gonna happen now. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just let let's just juice up to the max. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, circumstances have changed. So now I've come off the tee. Like I said, I've got a nice, full, firm pair of plump balls, and, that's all thanks to this human chorionic gonadotropin.
And as I said, my buddy who just got recommended TRT, so he went to the clinic, yeah, private clinic. They've done his test. Test was low. They've given him hundred and fifty milligrams to test a week, but more importantly, they've put him on HCG as well. Right. So they do it at the same time. So it's like it starts from shutting down. Yeah. Yeah. I've argued to death when I was still on Reddit, and I can't believe I was ever on there. But, like, there are some people that will try and tell you that the sort of PCT chemicals like Nova and Clomid will somehow magically increase testosterone production in the balls and prevent them from atrophying.
And when I say atrophying, like, it's not painful, but you can feel your balls, like, shriveling.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It's like an un slightly uncomfortable, slightly tight feeling in the balls. They shrivel up, and they essentially, they are atrophy and a waste in a way. Do not believe these twats online that tell you that NOVA and Clomid will keep your balls firm and plump. The only thing is HCG, and there's an an analog called HMG. Those are the only things that will keep your balls going. So if you're gonna do this, fucking get the HCG as well. Okay. Because at the end of your cycle, if your balls are all still intact, you stop taking the stuff, and you're back to normal really quickly. Whereas if you don't take it, they shrivel up. It takes three or four weeks. And in that time, you're miserable as fuck.
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Right. Okay. So for the people who are listening who are thinking, right, this could be useful. This is something that I think I need to do. I'm already eating healthy. I'm already, like, sleeping as much as is possible in my life, doing all the things and training, but my testosterone is low. They could presumably pay for a blood test separately that would show their levels, and then they could buy and and, like, administer this themselves is one option, or they can just go to a doctor and do it. But the doctors are gonna be I don't know what I mean, what does something like that cost if you go to a doctor? I didn't ask. My buddy is not shy of a few dollars. He's like a London City boy Right. Type. Look. All I know is it cost me, like, $5 a month. $5 a month. Oh, wow. £5 a month.
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Yeah. Like, a a vial of t four hundred is £40, and it lasts me twenty weeks. Right? That's the maths. And you can just order that online, presumably? You get a 10% discount if you're paying Bitcoin for a lot of these people as well. Oh, okay. Very nice. Yeah. If you want to source it, there's a really great website called Eroids. No hyphens or anything. Just Eroids. And they'll have a tab at the top for suppliers, and you can select your region, US, UK, Canada. Use the code Unconfeinable.
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Not really. They don't just want to show before I get in trouble.
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But, like, yeah, I always just went on Eroids, looked at who was, like, top 10 suppliers in The UK, looked at their websites to see if they had the products I wanted, and then see what their, sort of checkout system was Mhmm. And went for whoever I felt comfortable with. I've never been ripped off through it Mhmm. Yet touch wood. Your experiences may vary. Certainly, here in The UK, it's really fucking easy to get a hold of, and it's really cheap. Okay. And, also, it's on dark markets as well.
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Okay. If someone's gonna do it, I would think that the best thing is that they do regular or semi regular blood test to make sure that they're in a reasonable range and they're not doing anything that's fucking retarded or that they're not undershooting or overshooting things. That would presumably be something that you could pay for privately and get a load of other markers checked and then still administer at home. Because my guess is I don't know what it's gonna cost at doctors, but my guess is it's gonna be at least 500 a month, isn't it? Like, you're gonna you don't ever walk into a doctor and they're like, yeah. That's that's 30 pounds. Like, it's I mean, like, it's it's gonna be, yeah, you know, you come in and we're gonna put you on this program. We're gonna inject you once a week, and it's a hundred and £50 a week or £250
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a week or 500 a week. It's not gonna be less than that. Yeah. It's not gonna be cheap. No. And if you wanna go for a centralized model, that's entirely up to you. I will say this. Like, I have pushed this shit to some very extreme levels. I've seen. Yeah. I mean, I I I ended up coming off of the sort of anabolics because I was just too big in the end. It was just obvious.
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Yeah. Yeah. You're a monster.
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Yeah. It's because I was using the anabolics at the same time as the growth hormone releases. I've not even touched on just injecting straight growth hormone because it's not something I've done. I found that the just releasing my own growth hormone was way effective enough. But the synergy of using some tests and some growth hormone release, that is like a one plus one equals five. Mhmm. And that was when I just fucking blew up. And, like, yeah, I got to the point where I was like, okay. This is obvious now, so let's let's come off. And I also kinda got bored of working out a little bit. Yeah. I'd kind of hit some of my goals. If If anyone's interested, personal best, like, I deadlifted, like, two seventy five, which is, I don't know what that is. Is it in pounds? It's like 660 pounds. Shoulder press was a 25.
That's like it's like nearly 300 pound shoulder press. Yeah. That's decent. Like, it was higher than my bench because of my janky shoulder. Yeah. Your shoulder's
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proper fucks. Like, for anyone listening, if someone if someone's like, oh, everyone's got a bad shoulder. Like, I've got a rotator cuff in injury. No. No. No. If you look at Karim, he's got this snapped fucking bone, which is, like, totally in the wrong place, and it all just looks like it looks like you've been in a fucking car crash. Yeah. It was a it was a nasty bike crash, BMX crash, where I just
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tore the all of the tendons away, so I didn't snap the bone. But the tip of the clavicle that attaches to the shoulder, that was completely severed from the the shoulder. And then some of the tendons that hold it to the chest were were also torn, so the collarbone was kind of just, like, flapping around loose, which if I'd have actually broken the collarbone, I would have had probably a better prognosis for recovery. My shoulder was fucked for quite a long time. I couldn't raise it above arm level. That's one of the reasons I started working out that and, sciatica. Worked out naturally for a while. Just got addicted to the numbers. You know? Once I got to work a 80 kilo deadlift naturally, I was like, how far can I push this? And then I just started, you know, juicing up. That's where it gets dangerous is, like, obsession with the numbers. Because it's like, most people, generally, they get into the gym to be like, I wanna be physically
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strong, and I wanna look good. Like, okay. That's my goal. But then once you do it long enough, it is like, no. The number is the goal. Like, that's that's what it will Number co ops. Yeah. Number num n g u. And it's then it's like, actually, you start looking less aesthetically pleasing. You probably start to get less healthy because you start pushing things too far. And like you say, it's like it can get boring. So, I remember you doing that and being like, I don't need to be any stronger than I am. I'm fucking bored. I'm taking up jiu jitsu and cycling again. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. And that's it. Now I can, can say, honestly, like, obviously, from the last pod, I've been a degenerate drug addict for the last year or so. Yeah. And,
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the health benefits of what I did in my thirties and forties are insane. Like, I still have severe amounts of muscle mass. I'm, you know, very strong. I have a very high metabolism. I don't really put weight on. I weigh myself every day. I keep an eye on that. You know? I I do try and keep those principles of eating, but the muscle burns the calories. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it also acts as body armor in terms of like, I've had some nasty falls since I gave up weight lifting and started riding, but the worst that's happened is I've broken my foot. You know? And that was kind of repaired. Ah, I should say there is some amazing peptides for healing as well.
TB 500 and BPC one fifty seven. So I this is during COVID. I was living near some, like, really nice jumps in the woods, some dirt jumps. I got a bit too comfortable, and I took, like, a bad tumble and smashed my knee into the ground. And it seemed okay, but I fucking went and lifted weights on it. Silly cunt. Yeah. And then it just blew up. And then I went to hospital during COVID, and they were cunts about it. The X-ray man was just bending my knee loads to do the X rays. I was like, dude, you really hurt me, really hurt me. It's swelling up. And then they were like, look. We've done the X rays. It's all soft tissue damage. I was like, but I can't move my leg now because the X-ray guys just fucking, like, twisted me up Like, I was in jiu jitsu lesson. And they were like, just get out of the hospital because it's COVID, and they kicked me out. Because it's COVID.
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So I just went home. I was like Well, can I just ask, were you wearing your Bane mask? Because that might have something to do with it.
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They gave you, like, little surgical masks when you get there, but, like, yeah, I don't think I had I I only went shopping once in my Bane mask during COVID. The security guard just went, nice mask. So, yeah, after flagging a taxi down and just going, please drive me around the corner, give you a fiver to my car. And then getting home, I just went online, and I was like, right. What do I need? TB five hundred, BPC one fifty seven, and I was literally injecting it into my fucking swollen ass knee that looked like a melon. And, honestly, it just shrank in days. They call it Wolverine in a bottle, that common that mix.
So and I can only recommend UK suppliers direct hyphen peptides UK have been really good to me. Mhmm. Promo code. But, yeah, there there is the direct peptides, but it's a direct hyphen peptides that I get my stuff from, and I've been really impressed with those people. You can probably get some of the stuff that we're talking about as nasal sprays or just comes in vials. Mhmm. But, yeah, there's loads out there that we could potentially talk about, but we know we've got a hour hard stop on this one. Yeah.
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Well, I think, you know, I think would be good is I think we've sort of covered the diet stuff that most people listening to this are fairly clued up on. Yeah. I think the TRT stuff is something that a lot of listeners we have quite an old listener base, you know, that kind of, like, John's age listener base and 80. Yeah. And I think a lot of them are either on it or considering it. I'm getting to the stage where I'm like, I'm probably not that far off considering I can still make some changes to my lifestyle to, be better, but I'm probably, you know, five years off being where I'm like, yeah. I need to seriously consider doing this. And it's just a sort of fact of life. And I think, you know, when you're talking about the numbers where you're like, oh, it cost me £5 a month.
Mhmm. It's like a lot of people will be listening to this and being like, I can't afford to go to a doctor and pay whatever 500, a thousand, 2 thousand. Fuck knows what it's gonna be, but it's not gonna be cheap.
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But I could afford that, and I could afford a blood test every couple of months privately. I I can't imagine that's crazy money. And so The blood tests, there are a lot of people that provide these home blood tests. You get, like, a little Lancet thing. You just prick your finger with, I mean, the sexual health tests come the same sort of thing. You just prick your fingers, send it away, and they tell you you have got eight. So I'm sure you can get cheap. I think it's about a hundred quid for a a home testosterone test, And then they'll try and fucking sell you stuff, but you can just do the test every now and then. You can take control of it and have the keys to your own health. Then you can vary the dosage to what you feel appropriate.
There are a couple of sides we probably should just throw in as well. Like, one of the things that is always gonna happen when you increase your test level is that your cholesterol levels are gonna go up. Okay. Now jury's still out on that. I I personally I I have a had a heart defect. Okay? So this is not to do with steroids. Okay? This is an electrical default in the heart that was then exacerbated by COVID. So I have been to doctors. I had two surgeries to remove this wiring connective tissue in the heart. They were constantly obsessed with checking my blood pressure. There was never any question of blood pressure issues. So there's no blockage or, you know, furring of the arteries that's detectable in my cardiovascular system whilst there is this this red light about, oh my god. Testosterone will increase your, cholesterol profile. It's like, yeah. It will, but so will, carnivore diet. And, again, these are generally associated with improved health markers.
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Presumably, when you do these blood tests, you could ask to see all the different markers. Like, could you not check for cholesterol from your blood test and testosterone levels and all this stuff? Yeah. I think cholesterol tests are well easy to get hold of of as well. But what I'm saying is can't you just do one fucking blood test for all them all that just tells you all the shit you need to know? Like, here's my blood. Right? You're gonna test it for a load of shit. Can you just tell me what's my testosterone level? What's my cholesterol level? Blah blah blah. Like, everything.
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I mean, if you're going through a private doctor, yes. I actually had quite a good hormone panel through the NHS. I made up a bit of a story. I was like, yo. Me and my wife are trying to get pregnant. My date don't work. I'm I like it. These are the symptoms of low testosterone. Mhmm. You know, I'm not sleeping very well. I'm finding it difficult in the gym. Mhmm. Or is it, like which was a bit of a you know, when you're walking in looking, it's getting juicy as well. Yeah. But doctors don't really know much anyway. Yeah. They know very little about endocrinology. Mhmm. It's same as that they don't know much about nutrition.
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They know nothing about nutrition. I think they get sent on one day every three years to learn about, like, the food pyramid. Oh, yeah. And then they learn way
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more about fucking what the new pharmaceutical insurance setup is. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. If you're I mean, if you're paying privately, you can get all this stuff. It's about being smart with it. If you are gonna take test, your cholesterol is gonna boost up a little bit, so you must have your diet in check beforehand. Okay? Mhmm. But if you're doing a hundred and fifty milligrams a week, that's not above baseline sort of natural levels. So there's no reason to expect that there's going to be any significant changes for that. Your body ran on that level for ten years between sort of ages of, you know, 12 and 22. Mhmm. Similarly, with the growth hormone stuff, if you're taking, you know, fifteen to thirty milligrams of MK six seven seven a day, you're not really pushing your body to a a level. You're not injecting amounts of, human growth hormone. You're telling your body to release the stuff it's got. Oh, by the way, it does release growth hormone when you are fasting as well. So this is an interesting effect where the hunger hormones when the hunger hormone is high, the growth hormone is released as well. So that's one of the reasons why the side effect of MK six seven seven is the increased hunger.
So and that one of the reasons why fasting is so effective. It's not just about reducing calories. It is about raising growth hormone as well.
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Interesting. So if I'm sticking to, like, a roughly sixteen to eighteen hour fast and then, like, having either one meal or maximum two meals and high protein and all that, Like, that puts me in a pretty good spot where likely I probably don't need the human growth hormone stuff.
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Probably. Look. You know, there's this andropause thing that you're not factoring in. From the age of 30, your testosterone level is gonna drop by a couple of percentage points every year. Yeah. And that's very variable. All of this is about there's no perfect because what are you gonna do? You're gonna drink tap water and calcify your pineal gland or drink bottled water and have microplastics settle in your balls? You don't have a lot a lot of choices. Neither, mate. I drink Perrier out of a glass bottle. Of course. Yeah. Your Vos or some shit like that. Yeah. If you can afford it. But don't let perfect be the enemy of good. If I was gonna say to you, just get a fucking bottle of MK six seven seven and just take two tablets a day, take thirty milligrams a day and just see what happens.
Okay? I promise you, you wouldn't be disappointed with the results. I'm guarantee you're not gonna have any sides that are gonna be, like, earth shattering or life changing. You might like I say, you might be hungry. The impact of these things, especially the growth hormone stuff, was very long lasting for me. And the sooner you get these effects, the sooner you can stop the aging process. You can reduce it. You can't really turn time back. No. There is some talk of stuff that lengthens your telomeres. I've not really looked into it. I've not tried it. I won't talk too much about it. But, essentially, what you wanna do is kind of freeze time now. And the longer you leave it, the later you're gonna freeze time.
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Okay. Well, what I think we should do is I think we've covered a lot of ground there. Loads of people are gonna listen to this, probably take some notes and think about what bits they might want to incorporate. And then there's probably gonna be some questions. So people will either boost in or XMRL chat in or put on the socials or whatever any questions. And then maybe we could because normally what I do, this would be under a confab. Mhmm. What I'll do is I'll then normally read the boosts at the beginning of the next confab. Maybe I could read the boost, but give your answers to any questions in that section. Yeah. No worries. That would be good because, otherwise, people are gonna have questions. And then what's gonna happen is people are gonna reach out to me, and they're gonna be like, oh, Max, what do I do about the BP five six two then, and what's that gonna do to my telemedicine? So I'll be like, listen, cunt. I'm not the fucking person to ask. Alright? Let me ask Keturin. I'll tell you what, though. Just experiment. I know that sounds really reckless.
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It was okay for me because I kinda know a bit of science, a bit chemistry. I do have a chemistry degree. So, like, I was okay with dosages and stuff like that. But Yeah. Yeah. Like, as long as you you do a lot of research beforehand and you kind of read around the edges and go, okay. This is what I'm gonna try. Pretty hard to fuck it up. Let's be honest. Okay. I tried. I tried. Yeah. You you went pretty mental, and you're used to the life. So that's that's that. I'm gonna give a quick shout out to Jack at Cake Wallet. So thank you, Jack, for sorting me out. I've been using Cake Wallet and Cake Pay, and I managed to fuck that up. But, yeah, have a cider for me, Jack. I just said, I promise I'd give him a shout out. Oh, very nice. Well, Jack, I don't think we've met, but thank you for helping out this retard. I do appreciate it. Seth will make sure Jack's on the next trip to Vegas. Yeah? That's that's what we gotta do for him. Yeah. I'm sure he will. I'm sure he will after this shout out. Thank you, Jack. Much appreciated. Yeah. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Jack. Alright, mate. Well, I appreciate your knowledge
[01:31:05] Unknown:
dropping the knowledge bombs all over the place here. Hopefully, people who are listening, especially the older ones, sort of feeble ones, can take this advice and boost their t levels and growth hormone and everything else. We will,
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answer any questions at the beginning of the next episode. Cool. Thank you for having me on. Thank you, everyone.
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Always a pleasure. Never a chore. Quite different to our last one. Yeah.
[01:31:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I know it sounds very contradictory for someone who was last time talking about saying drug used to be talking about health and longevity, but I'm putting drugs into my body and experiment. And so you can sense a theme.
[01:31:44] Unknown:
You just love drugs. It doesn't matter whether they're for health or for recreational. Just the love of drugs is there. I'm wizard archetype, I think.
[01:31:54] Unknown:
I'm definitely the kind of alchemist, mad scientist type always wanted to be. And that's that's it. I just experiment on myself, and I've loved it. I will say that. That that's my final sign off. I I cannot encourage you enough because your body is the car you drive around in. Imagine waking up one day, and instead of that shitty Vauxhall Astra, you've got a Porsche nine eleven. Right? That's what it's like when your body's on testosterone and growth hormone. You feel better. You look better. Fuck better. Women look at you differently. There's an aura when you walk into the room. It's just it is there is something you know, that's why it's a little bit addictive. I'll be honest with you because it's fucking great. Great. Sad enough. Right. Let's all, become more uncomfortable.
[01:32:39] Unknown:
Speak to you soon, mate. Ciao. Thanks for listening. I really hope you enjoyed that. If you did enjoy it or you have any questions, please reach out in the boosts or XMR chat for any questions. Even if you think we're talking shit or you, challenge some of what Karim has said there, then please get in touch, and we can dig into it a little bit more. I wanna say a big thank you to Karim for all the research she's done for this episode and to the rest of the team for everything that they do to keep Ungovernable Misfits going. We now have clothing back in the store, ungovernablemisfits.com.
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Bitcoin is close to becoming worthless.
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Bitcoin. Now what's the Bitcoin?
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Bitcoin's like rat poison. Yeah. Oh. The greatest scam in history. Let's get it.
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Bitcoin will go to fucking zero.
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Welcome back to another Confab episode. This one is with my good friend, Kerim. He's been on twice before, both with very different subjects. In the last one, we covered all the different types of crazy drugs and mixes you could ever take to see aliens and entities and gods and some of Kerim's personal experiences. In this one, we cover health. Quite different, isn't it? But the common theme here is Kerim fucking loves drugs. Now the drugs we're talking about in this episode are to help enhance your health, and strength, and testosterone levels, and everything else. And although he is a very weird cunt, he's quite smart. He does a lot of research and really digs deep into this stuff. So I think you're gonna really enjoy this.
Anyone who is looking to improve themselves physically, this could be a very good show for you. One thing I'll mention is we didn't go into a huge amount of detail on why you might want to increase your testosterone levels or at least bring them up to a good level. You can do your research on this. There's many positives that come from this. We talked more about how to achieve it than why you should. But we've also said that you can ask any questions in the boosts or XMR chats, and me and Karen will go through all of those on the next episode. Quick thank you to our show sponsors, Foundation and k Wallet.
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He's back by popular demand.
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Yeah. Thank you to I meant to check out the name of the dude who said, when is the stoner teacher dude coming back on? Such a good name for you. I know. Even though I've not been a teacher for a while now, and now I'm don't do anything. Now I'm unemployed.
[00:06:46] Unknown:
That's the ways to be. If you're gonna be a proper stoner, you do you do have to be unemployed. Yeah. It's true. I just don't wanna pay tax money to satanic pedophiles. That's all. Yeah. I think that is best. It's best not to feed them. Yeah. And that's what we want. We want everyone to be ungovernable. Yeah. You've left the Fiat grind, stopped paying the pedophiles. I've left the country to stop paying them as well. We're on the right path, mate. It feels good. And whilst I haven't left The UK, I have left England.
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We all know that you're in Guam. Yeah. A very specific island somewhere. I'm I'm gonna dox myself. I've moved to the very North of Scotland God. Out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. You'd be surprised. Since we arrived, it has been blazing sunshine. Absolutely insane. My lovely wife, Anna John was talking about having a pleb wife to support you. She had all these great ideas of being a homesteader. But, you know, I asked for a trad wife, and I got a Todd wife because she is a she's a big titty goth girl. And, like, she's just like, I can't go out in the sun. What did you think farmsteading homesteading was gonna be like? You have to be outside.
So she's actually tanned for the first time.
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But in true form, it has now pissed it down the last couple of days. Well, she'll be happy. I mean, Scotland will do what Scotland does, and it will give you disgusting weather 95% of the time. So Mhmm. Should have a wellies on, and she'll be very happy in the in the pouring rain and drizzle and gray. You know what's really weird is we're so far north
[00:08:25] Unknown:
that the daylight has thrown me wildly. Oh, really? It just doesn't get dark even at this time of year. I've been working most days just trying to do stuff, and I sort of think, oh, you know, you judge it by the daylight. I come in when it's twilight, and it's fucking 10:00. Oh. And then she's just like, I'm ready to go to bed now. Oh, okay. That's quite nice. It's good for productivity, for sure. Mhmm. But the flip side of that is what the hell is it gonna be like in the winter? Oh, it's gonna be dismal. Yeah. You're gonna wake up in the morning.
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Just any time that you wake up, it's gonna be dark. Yeah. And then it's gonna be about three or four hours of daylight ish, and then it's gonna be dark again. Twenty eight days of night. It's gonna be like that. Yeah. That's what it's like in parts of Norway. Well, we're level with parts of Sweden and Norway. So we are equivalent to the southern tip of the big schlong that is the Nordic countries. Well, I don't envy you short days and all of that, but I do like the Scottish band. I feel like at some stage, you'll start learning from that. You have some great band yourself.
[00:09:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm lacking in the bands. The people up here are so nice, but I do not understand them. Yeah. But the flip side of that is they don't understand me either. That Yeah. That is really weird. They're like, come again? For the best. You're like, what the fuck did you just say? Just now. Everything's just now. You want in this just now? Like, what? That sounded Irish. It does sound a bit it's kind of farmer y. Like I say, we're way north. We're near your favorite horse island of Shetland.
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Oh, okay. Where was it I drove was it Inverness? It's quite far north, isn't it? It's about as north as you go.
[00:10:09] Unknown:
Inverness is where my nearest Nando's is, but that's, like, well over an hour's drive.
[00:10:14] Unknown:
I drove up to Inverness with the world's biggest trailer and an underpowered truck. The thing overloaded to the point that it was, like, absolutely fucking ridiculously overloaded, like, probably double the way it should have been. And then the people who had strapped it down hadn't strapped it down properly. So roofing flew off all down the motorway, and then I had to gather it on the side of the motorway against strong winds. And then I got all the way up to Inverness after, like, probably about eleven hours of driving because I had to go really slowly up there. And then I get there, and they'd given me the wrong fucking postcode.
No. Oh, yeah. And then I finally get there to my hotel, whatever stupid o'clock. And then no one was on the check-in. So I was like, great. Like, wandered around this fucking random, like, castle type building. I was like, where the fuck is everyone? Finally find someone. They give me a key. I go in, and I'm like, do you know what? I'm freezing cold, and I'm soaking wet. I just wanna have a nice bath. So I went to go and run the bath, and there's no hot water in the whole hotel.
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K.
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Yeah. That was my Inverness experience.
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It was very beautiful, though. Oh, it's a gorgeous drive. I should know. I've fucking done it twice because I had to drive up with the the van, you know, rental van full of all the stuff. And then I had to catch public transport and fly back and then pick up my car and do the whole drive again. Very nice. And I managed to smash my phone by shutting it in the van door. So on the drive up the second time you know how much we rely on Google Maps type thing? Oh, yeah. I got it all the way to Glasgow, and then I just got really lost. And I was in a really dodgy part of Glasgow asking for directions. Just it wasn't my most calm moment. Let's put it that way.
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I can imagine that. You're a very calm beast usually, but occasionally. Generally, I think you're a pretty calm bloke, but you know that in there, there's there's Thor. Just
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a little shit. Yes. And that's what we're here to unleash today, the inner thaw in all the others. Mhmm. We always chat and go, oh, just come on again. What are we gonna talk about? But I heard who's that old man that you have on with a nice voice?
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How old are we talking? Like, extremely old or sort of mid late? Keep calling him your dad. I'm not sure.
[00:12:39] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. That'll be John. Yeah. He's very old. Very old. He's a great guy. Listening to him talk about how as a man, you know, he used to work sixteen hour days, and that was okay in his twenties and thirties. But as you get to your forties and fifties and I think John's into his sixties or seventies, I'm guessing. Oh, he must be. Must be. Your performance goes downhill. And I was honestly sitting there thinking, well, that's not the case because I definitely was in a much better shape in my thirties than I was in my twenties and was in better shape in my forties than I was in my thirties.
So it probably speaks more about the poor condition I was in in my twenties and thirties, but I said to you, like, let's talk about performance enhancement. Mhmm. And we know that Bitcoin's all about owning the keys to your wealth. Well, let's own the keys to our health. Oh, I like that. Oh, yes.
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Oh, yes.
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I practice my power. We probably need to do all the whole disclaimer y thing at the beginning as well to cover our asses.
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I don't really care. But, I mean, yeah, it's pretty obvious just like what we're gonna talk about. I think we're gonna go from a sliding scale of, like, little bits that you can do that normal humans will do, and then you can go, like, full retard mode like Aaron would do. Yeah. And just pump yourself fucking eyeball trend into your eyeballs Cow stuff. Yeah.
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Like, I don't think a disclaimer is needed past the point of, like, just just don't be a cunt. And if you are gonna be a cunt, you know that it's on you. Like, we're not suggesting to do any of this stuff. That's the disclaimer. Absolutely. And this is purely for entertainment purposes and educational purposes. If you copy what I did, you're a fucking idiot because I'm a fucking idiot. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. At the same time, I'm gonna talk you through some of the really effective things that are out there that can really make super duper improvement. To quote Hunter s Thompson, he who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Oh, like that as well. Do you know Hunter? Do you know much of him? I know him really well. Yeah. Yeah. Great guy. You know who I'm talking about at least. Yeah. I know who you're talking about. Yeah. The dude from Fear and Loathing. Right? Yeah. He made, Hunter's chicken.
It's exactly what he did. Yeah. Yeah. That was his real claim to fame.
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Yeah. Alright.
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So let's get into it then. We do need to cover some of the boring shit. Okay. The stuff that applies to everyone because not everyone's gonna train up to their eyeballs, obviously. No. They are not. Especially if you're a lady, but I'm not really sure you have any lady listeners.
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We have a few. We have a few. We have Hashlatter. We have a few others. Warm orange tart, we have. Okay. I just assumed this was part of the whole manosphere. I mean, you look just like Andrew Tate. I do not look like Andrew Tate for anyone listening. The only thing we have in common is a bald head. Yeah.
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Let's get into it. So start with food. And I'm not gonna dwell on all these things too much because we wanna get to the juicy stuff quite literally. But I do think it's really important to cover the principles of each of these things because if you're just jumping in straight into steroids or TRT or even growth hormone releases without getting the basics done, you are a fucking retard. There's a lot that you're gonna do first that needs to be checked off before you can allow yourself the pharmaceutical interventions that I know you're desperate to hear about.
[00:16:10] Unknown:
Yeah. So, presumably, you would do all the stuff that you can do naturally to boost all these levels anyway Mhmm. Then you check yourself and, like, right. Where can I improve? Do I need to because some people might be like, actually, their testosterone levels are off the fucking chart. Yeah. They're they're packing on muscle. They're really fit and healthy. And it's like, should you do all this stuff? No. You don't need to. You're fine. But then if someone's doing all this stuff and they're getting good sleep and they're eating well and they're training, but their testosterone levels are really low and they're struggling, then it's like, okay. Now this is where you've done everything you can that tree. Now let's see what we can do. Because the alternative is just living a more miserable life and just being a lesser version of your previous self, which is a pretty depressing thing to think. And if you can avoid that and be the best you can be, that's surely better.
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Yeah. Also, from my perspective, I'm tight as fuck. So if I can do something for free Mhmm. Or even save money doing it Yeah. Rather than spending money on pharmaceuticals, and there is side effects to some of these things, which we will all go into. What's the fucking point unless you got the money to burn Yeah. Yeah. Which I don't. Yeah. So start with food, and I'm gonna try and keep it to principles. Top principle is calories are king. In terms of your health span and your your lifespan and your health span, so what's the point in living to a hundred if you're a vegetable for the last thirty years? Yeah. So we want as long and as healthy a life as possible. One of the few things that is scientifically proven to actually increase lifespan is long term calorie restriction.
Mhmm. Look. We all know. What's the worst thing you can do? Be a fat cunt for your health.
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No. I think not eating at all is worse because you die quicker. But the second worst thing you can do is beer. Like, if you're a proper anorexia, you're gonna die before the fat cunt. I looked up the studies, and long term calorie restriction is gonna increase your lifespan. No. No. No. No. But we're talking in extremes. You know, we're talking like if you're gonna be a super fat cunt and you're gonna eat, like, everything that you possibly can, like a disgusting pig, it's gonna take you a fair few years to become a blob.
Whereas if you don't eat at all or at the absolute minimum and you're a proper anorexic,
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you're gonna die pretty quickly. But but I am taking it to the extreme level. Exactly. If you took it to the extreme level of the film seven where that geyser eats and eats and eats until he kicks him in the stomach and he explodes, similarly, you're probably gonna die equally as quickly. But if you live a life of extreme calorie excess or you live a life of extreme you are an anorexic but functional anorexic, you are still gonna be healthier as the anorexic. Than the fat cunt? Than the fat cunt. Yeah. You are gonna die quicker as the fat cunt than you are as the sort of terminally thin person. I know I said terminally them FFCs
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here. What's that stand for? It's double f. It's fat fat cunt. Just to emphasize the fatness. Yeah. FFCs. You could just say American.
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Good point. So that first thing, calories are king. It's really hard because calories are around you all the goddamn time. And the simplest way to do that is just just make sure that you are eating a restricted diet of energy as much as you can, and that's why people do intermittent fasting. That's why we have portion control and all this kind of stuff. You cannot get away from them in your daily life. Your mom's gonna feed you when you go around. There's gonna be donuts at work. There's always fucking food everywhere. One of the things that bugs me is when people get on some kind of bodybuilding or health kick, and they're like, I need to hit my calories for the day. And that is just not true. You are saturated with calories. Most likely, you're eating more than you are under. There are these random skinny cunts who can eat all the time and really struggle to put on weight. Mhmm. Those are the exception.
But for most normal people, you're getting too many calories. You're always going over your daily requirements, and you're putting on weight, and you're pushing yourself towards heart disease, diabetes, cancer, all these
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things. So calories are king. Keep them low. And it's the quality of the calories then, isn't it? Because it's like, you could have you could be eating 2,000 calories a day, and that could be made of steak and eggs. And then that's like high quality, high protein calories that are gonna be good for building muscle and sustaining yourself. Or you could eat, like, a really fucking shitty Iceland pizza that's got a full of, like, saturated fats and fucking disgusting chemicals and just bullshit, which is gonna be the same amount of calories, but is less nutritionally dense. That's true. This is where that saying calories are king
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is a little bit sort of controversial. People have lost weight on McDonald's. People have lost weight on the miles bar only diet.
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Mhmm.
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Because if you're under your maintenance calories, you're gonna lose weight whatever. Now, obviously, there is something about how you feed your body and the requirements for protein and how hungry you're gonna be if you're eating a fucking four miles bars a day. That's your entire calorie intake. You're gonna feel like shit. But you won't gain weight, and you won't put yourself at the risk of diabetes, heart disease, cancer. There is a real good source on this, a guy called Lane Norton. If you don't know Lane Norton, he's one of the few sort of workout diet gurus online who really is scientifically focused.
He's one of the few people I genuinely believe is natty. He's not a secret juice head claiming to be, and he's generally right about everything except sumo deadlift is easier, and it is also gay because it just looks gay. You spread your legs wide apart, like, you're gonna get bummed, and the bar doesn't move as as high. So it is gay, and it is easier. But, generally, he he will go into this kind of calories are king. He will deconstruct the carnivore diet. He'll also deconstruct vegan diets and shit like that. But, yeah, you're right that the quality of your intake depends on the macros and the micros. So we all know the macros are proteins, fats, and carbs, and we all know what the standard advice is. Like, I don't even need to tell you what if you wanna get healthier, what's the standard advice that you do with your macros?
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I'd say go the highest protein you can drop all carbs and sugars.
[00:22:40] Unknown:
Exactly. That is the single piece of advice that every fucking dietitian, every workout person, they all go fall back on that. Okay? And it's the reason why is because of what those three macros, proteins, fats, and carbs, what they do to the body. Proteins are what the body's made of. It's the raw materials that your body's made of. You're constantly needing to create new cells. You're growing hair. You're growing skin, nails. There are cells that are dying and being replaced, and those require raw materials. And that is what protein provides. So if you don't eat enough protein, you will die. The fats do start providing energy.
So they do provide the energy to keep you going. Now I said earlier, you don't need that much energy because it's all fucking around you. But fats also, particularly cholesterol, are the precursors for your hormones. So they don't just have an energy producing role. They actually have a hormonal role. So they are raw materials as well. And so if you have a fat free diet, you will eventually, on a long enough timeline, die.
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Mhmm. Carbohydrates,
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there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. Now this is where it gets controversial, and this is where carnivore, keto, all these diets sort of come in. But the simple fact is you just don't need carbohydrates.
[00:23:57] Unknown:
What about fiber?
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Yeah. I mean yeah. But you can get fiber from cruciferous veg, things that aren't high in carbohydrates. Like, potatoes are high in rice and shit like that. Brown rice is high in fiber, but it's also high in carbs. But broccoli, cauliflower, shit like that, they're high in fiber, but they've got hardly any carbohydrates to them. I don't think you need fiber. I've done the carnival for long enough to know that I could shit just fine. Same. There is that transition period, though, where you spatter the back of the bowel.
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Yeah. There was it was double hard for me as well because I went through a point where I was going carnivore, but I was also having a load of pre workout. So that was, like, the only thing that I was having that wasn't carnivore because, obviously, full of sugar and creatine and fucking whatever other shit is in there. So the mixture of going carnival with a very high fat and meat diet, and I was using quite a lot of it as well whilst training and having the pre workout and a lot of coffee through the day was troublesome.
[00:25:01] Unknown:
But then that's true of any significant dietary change because of the intestinal flora Mhmm. The microbiome of your gut. Yeah. When you're on a steady diet, the necessary bacteria to break down the things that your stomach can't digest are there and present because they've had time to adapt. Mhmm. Soon as you start changing it and you suddenly have a low carb, high protein diet, your body well, not your body, but the microbiome in the gut needs time to adapt. Mhmm. That diarrhea thing is not just from a carnivore diet. It's from any significant change in diet. Mhmm. And you can have that after antibiotics as well because that wipes out your microbiome, same as ibuprofen. I avoid ibuprofen like the plague because of the impact on that microbiome.
Does it? I never knew that. Yeah. I don't really fuck with any of the sort of over the counter medicines. You like the under the counter,
[00:25:51] Unknown:
round the counter, a reach around?
[00:25:53] Unknown:
I don't take any pain medication, paracetamol. Aspirin, I used that when I had COVID to thin the blood. I recommend any fucker who's had the jab to take aspirin, like a half aspirin every day. I've just got my parents to do that, and they're actually doing it now. They're taking a little half an aspirin every day. To stop the clotting? I mean, come on. Yeah. We're all aware of it by now. The coroners are seeing these long stringy white blood clots in the in the corpses. Come on, mate. That sounds like a conspiracy theory. It sounds like it can't be true that there's a significant jump in the amount of people dying. No. Because if it'd be on the news.
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Yeah. Like It would be. It's not like there's more people dying since the jibby jabbies than there were previously.
[00:26:37] Unknown:
No. No. Right. No. Because then there'd be there'd be more than just one dude standing up in parliament. You would think. Yeah. You'd think because they're all blackmailed.
[00:26:48] Unknown:
That is a good bit of advice, actually. I hadn't really thought about the aspirin, but and I didn't know about the Ibuprofen.
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Ibuprofen.
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Mhmm. Because I've always thought of that as, like, I sometimes take that if I've got, like, some swelling or, like, if I've got some sort of injury. Like, sometimes I'd be like, I'll just take a bit of ibuprofen to bring down the swelling. And I always think with these things, like, they don't really I I'd never really feel that different after taking aspirin or ibuprofen or any of these things really. It's more of like, oh, just take it just in case kind of thing. It's a fucking tea boy. Yeah. The only things that I feel work are if you get really, really sick, I swear by hot toddies.
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Sounds like something very posh.
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Hot toddy. No. You'll have it up in Scotland. People have it there. It's like, you get really sick. You get hot water, a lemon, clove, honey, and a decent splash of whiskey. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you mix that up, and it's genuinely you start to sweat more. You've got the vitamin c and all that stuff, like, good shit from the lemon, the clove, like, gets into your snout and starts cleaning all of that out. You get a bit pissed the more you have them, so you feel a bit better during the time you sleep, fall asleep. And every time I've done that, I, like, got under the covers and, like, smashed, like, four, five, six hot toddies.
Then I'll sleep for, like, twelve hours, and I'll wake up just in a pool of sweat and then feel better after a hot shower. Yeah. Sweat out fever. It's that kind of you know, there there's a reason why your body goes into that
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extreme heat shock is to Mhmm. Make the temperature unsustainable for whatever pathogen is causing it. But it's interesting you mentioned about inflammation and swelling and that kind of thing. Are you aware of the difference between your omega threes and six and nines? Because that's a huge thing.
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No. I would actually have no idea about that other than you get your omega threes from fish or those little,
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capsules or whatever, but I'm not sure about what the six and the nines are. So cod liver oil and your omega fatty acids are essential fatty acids that you need. What a lot of people don't realize is that they actually have impact on inflammation pathways in the body. Information is kind of like a silent killer in the human body. Your body will have all these different pathways. When something's a little bit wrong, like, your teeth are really important because if you have bits of shit between your teeth and you don't floss and pick them out, that food starts to decay. You get an immune response. You get an inflammatory response, but that can get into your blood vessels, and that can, like, go systemically. It can damage the heart. So it's really important that you floss your teeth for the immune response and the inflammation response. But the omega fatty acids that you consume have impacts on the inflammation pathways.
Specifically, omega six will increase the activity of the inflammation pathways, and omega threes will decrease the inflammation. If you're taking a mixed omega three, you can get some that will say three, six, and nine. That's That's actually not very good for you. Oh. Because you do want omega sixes in your body, but they are everywhere. They're in all of the shelf stable foods, you know, with cereals and breads and crackers and things like that, they're really prevalent in those. But the omega threes, which you do get from the fish and the fish oil, they're not as prevalent in your diet.
So the idea is that what you want to do is you wanna get a more balanced ratio of omega threes and sixes. Nine seem to be kind of neutral, so I would only ever buy omega three capsules, not the ones that have the omega sixes in. And I would take, like, three grams of those a day in an attempt to kind of readdress and rebalance the omega three and six levels to reduce the inflammation. So that's an interesting like, that's a whole rabbit hole on itself
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that you can go down. Okay. So I inadvertently was doing things right anyway because I only had the omega three capsules. That's good. Okay. Good to know. If you are obsessive about fiber,
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then like I said earlier, you can get cruciferous veg that's not high in carbohydrates, but you can also get a really great fiber supplement, a stuff called psyllium husk. It's spelled with a p, p s y l I u, something like that. Psyllium husk. And that I used to have a spoonful of psyllium husk in my protein shake as a keep me filled up kind of thing, and that can really help your fiber. I'll tell you what, though, give you the most amazing shits. Oh, really? Those hard ghosties. Yeah. That's what dreams are made of. Yeah. So if you are obsessive about fiber, then psyllium husk and it's cheap as shit. There was, like, an Asian supermarket where I used to live. You just go in and buy a box of it for, like, a £2 or something. And you need, like, a teaspoon a day.
So you could sprinkle that on your porridge or something like that, and it's really good stuff. If you are interested in fiber, you've got bowel cancer in the family. Doesn't hurt. There's gonna be a high proportion of people who listen to this show who are gonna be carnivores because
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Bitcoin types, like, all just follow each other. Mhmm. When one one's like, oh, I'm gonna be a carnivore. Everyone's like, oh, that's what we're gonna do as well then. So not that I haven't tried it myself, but there are gonna be a lot of people who are like that and and think that, like, yeah, if I was completely pointless, you don't need any of that stuff. Have you got thoughts on Well, I mean, I I was a big follower of,
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Mark Bell. I got a lot of my steroid advice from him, and he went heavy on carnivore and the war on carbs. And he was of the same opinion that you didn't need fiber. His brother Chris, who was a documentary maker, some great documentaries actually, Chris Bell, he would like to throw in fruit just because it helped him stay sane. Mhmm. I've had great results from a carnivore diet, but I didn't say strict carnivore. I went with the classic meat and two veg. That's what I ate. Mhmm. I might just eat four chicken legs for dinner. Okay. But I also might put some sweet corn and peas on the side. I had no problem with that. Cheese as well, yogurt and fruit. It's not gonna kill you to eat a bit of veg. There are some people that are like, oh, no. Fruit and veg are bad for you.
And, again, going back to Lane Norton, he would just absolutely destroy that, and he would pull out studies about bowel cancer and fiber. I'm not Mhmm. You know, I'm I'm with you. I I don't think you need it, but I think avoiding it because it's bad for you is retarded. Mhmm. And I think just trying to eat a meal that is just me is quite boring. It's not very sociable. It doesn't look normal. I'd I've been that guy who brings my Tupperware of food with me. That's retarded. Like, I wanna go to Nando's, and I'll order the chicken, and I'll get the sweetcorn and those macho peas. And I'll be like, fine. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I know what you mean. I think it works. Like,
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if you wanna just, like, drop weight I don't you know, I've talked about that on this show. Like, I went from, like, a hundred kilos down to eighty, just dropping a shitload of weight in, like, two months of doing carnival and then tapering off to, like, semi carnival kind of thing. And it definitely works. Like, if any FFC ever came to me, it's like, I wanna lose weight. I'll be like, right. This is the way to do it. Like, no question. I'm not even gonna talk to you about gym. Just gonna talk to you about this. This is gonna make the biggest impact, but after a while, yeah, it does get boring.
And I kept slipping up. My slip up would be carnival completely strict. Then I would go, maybe I could just add, I have a few berries. Like I would really crave berries and yogurt. And then I would be like another week would go and I'd be like, maybe I'll just add some honey to my berries and yogurt. And then, and then it would be, maybe just when I'm having that whole plate of meat, maybe I could just rather than just salt, maybe I could have a bit of hot sauce or, like, a little and then it would spiral out, and then it would be like, I'll be smashing fucking burgers and chips. So if you could not fall off too hard and have that middle ground like that put Paul Saladino guy does. Mhmm. He'll have some fruit, and he'll have some veg, and have some liver, and have some meat and whatever.
I do feel like that's probably a better, more sustainable thing to do because you can kind of go out and eat places and stuff. But also, like, we were talking off air the other day about cancer and sugar Oh, yeah. Which we maybe we should go into that a little bit. But I was thinking, well, if sugar is what allows cancer cells to live or produce or have you'd say it in, like, a sciency way, then fruit is sugar, and therefore,
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would you not be in a worse position than not having it? Well, I mean, as I said, if I was diagnosed with cancer, I would go on a very strict carnivore keto diet because of the Nobel Prize that doctor Otto Warburg won back in this sort of early thirties that proved that cancer cells cannot make ATP through any other process other than fermentations of sugars. So So they have to use sugar and convert that to make their energy because of mitochondrial dysfunction. It's that usual fucking snakey disclaimer y bullshit where they attack one thing he said. He was absolutely right in saying that cancer cells cannot metabolize without sugar. So they will starve to death and die if there's no sugar in your bloodstream.
But he then said, I believe that it's the cause of cancer. And they were like, oh, he's wrong because it's not the cause of cancer. Okay. He was wrong about it being the cause. But is he right that cancer cells will starve to death in a no sugar environment? Fuck. Yes. He's right. But they cover that bit up, and they'll attack the one bit where he's wrong. So that is absolutely true. If I was diagnosed with cancer, I would go on a strict, strict carnivore. No sugar would enter my system. And in actual fact, I'd probably keep my calories low because I don't want an excess of protein. Because even in an excess of protein, your body can convert proteins into sugars by gluconeogenesis.
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So hold on. So what you're saying is that actually getting cancer or avoiding getting cancer, you don't think that has anything to do with the consumption of sugar?
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I do. I do think it has to do with the consumption of sugar, but cancer cells are essentially a a fault in DNA reproduction. So you you try to make a new cell. Something's gone wrong in the code. You made a copy of a copy, and it's fucked up somewhere. That creates one of these mutated cells. Now that could be caused by radiation exposure. It could be caused by chemical exposures in the shit that you're eating, or it could be caused by some metabolic disorder because your body is just generally overloaded. If you're constantly eating, your body is in an anabolic or fat storing, energy storing state. It doesn't prevent all of the catabolic processes. You've heard this term autophagy. Mm-mm.
Okay. So autophagy is a process where when your body is in, like, a calorie deficit, it clears out and cleans up, and it gets rid of all of the shit, all of the dead cells, all of the misfolded proteins. It sort of cleans up and does a a clean house. Now Mhmm. Your average Internet diet guru is gonna tell you, you just need to be fasting. And Mhmm. Again, going back to this, like, super autistic Layne Norton dude, he's gonna be like, no. You have autophagyal processes going on all the time, but they are more
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active in a low calorie state. Right. Which is why they say after thirty six or seventy two hours, you're repairing and getting rid of dead cells and all that kind of stuff. I didn't know what the word was. Yeah. That's it. But it's always, like, after this amount of hours, which I think is, like, either thirty six or seventy two is what I keep saying. And I'm like, that's annoying because I tend to only do like, the most I tend to do is about twenty four hours. Average fast for me most days is probably
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fifteen, sixteen hours, something like that. That's good. It's bro science, essentially. You could be eating every two hours. But if you're eating below maintenance calories, so you add up the calories for the day that you've eaten and it's below the 2,200 or whatever that you naturally burn as your basal metabolic rate, you will be having autophagal processes because it's like a fire. If the fire is burning low and you're just putting little wood shavings in, but if you're if you overload the fire, it can't burn properly. And that's kind of the a model for your metabolic system.
You want to make sure that you're burning off a hot fire and you're getting rid of all your crap. Whereas if you've got a fire that you just keep chucking shit into it, fire's gonna get clogged, stuff's gonna back up, and your burn is gonna get full of crap. And that's basically what's going on. Autophagy does depend on your your total calorie intakes. Again, calories are king. Mhmm. That's why it's the number one principle. But, yeah, I think we've ticked off pretty much all of the dietary stuff. We had taken a lot longer than that than I was hoping. But, Don't be a fat
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cunt. Yeah. Don't consume too many calories. What you do consume, try and make it generally high protein. Yeah.
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You do not need fucking carbohydrates. I will die on that hill. You do not need carbohydrates. There's no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. There are essential fatty acids. You do need proteins. So, obviously, the most logical diet is a high protein, moderate fat diet with some fruit and veg. Micronutrients, we discussed the fact that your omega fatty acids, the omega threes are preferable because you're probably getting your omega sixes. Other micronutrients that people are naturally quite low on are things like zinc and magnesium. Mhmm. And there's a great bedtime supplement called ZMA. K. Now I cannot recommend this enough.
It's cheap as shit. You can buy generics of it. You can buy branded versions, but ZMA is great. It's one of those supplements where I noticed an immediate effect when I started taking it, and it was like I slept really well. I had crazy dreams, and I got nice big jizzy loads. So Okay. What's not to love? Well, they're all good things. Exactly. Exactly.
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Big, jizzy loads.
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Magnesium is known as a bit of a muscle relaxant. If you are someone who takes stimulants like MDMA and then your jaw's rolling and chattering, it's because you are deficient in magnesium. So Oh. Supplementation with ZMA, zinc magnesium, and aspartate, which is kind of a vitamin b six or twelve. I can't remember.
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Not that I've ever taken MDMA, but if I had of and I had of had that jaw thing, that definitely means then that I'm deficient. It couldn't be any other reason. You are taking a powerful drug, but it definitely
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helps the muscles to relax. You know, in that extreme if if it's doing that in an extreme state where you've taken some kind of, you know, pharmaceutical and it can relax the muscles, imagine what it's doing to you normally on a Thursday night when you've just had a cup of chamomile tea and you go to bed, and you take a bit of magnesium. And then your muscles all relax. And we all know magnesium sulfate, which is what they put in the bath salts, not the crazy bath salts.
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Not the McAfee bath salts? No.
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No. I can't remember what they call that. Anyway, you put the bath salts in. What that does is it's magnesium sulfate, but it will soak into your muscles and relax the muscles.
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So bugging me. What that fucking Oh, well, you wonder what the salts are called, you mean? Yeah. Barf salts. Yeah. It's Epsom salts.
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That's the fucker. Yeah. Epsom salts. Yeah. Yeah. So it does absorb through the muscles and cause you to relax. So, again, muscle relaxant. So ZMA, and we all know vitamin c because it's an antioxidant. And, of course, vitamin d Mhmm. Get out in the fucking sun. If you're not in the sun, get your vitamin d. Sun does not cause sunburn. Lack of sun exposure causes lack of vitamin d, and then extreme exposure to the sun causes sunburn.
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Yeah. I was just about to pull you up on that because I'm like, I have been sunburned.
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Sunburn doesn't exist. It does, but this idea that skin cancers are primarily caused to sun exposure doesn't really hold water because, like, the parts of your body that are most exposed to the sun, the top of the ears, the nose, these parts don't actually often get skin cancers. The melanomas are found in the arms and, you know, various places that on the back, things like that. A lot of people are saying, bro scientists online
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Don't say it's sunscreen that's causing it. You can't.
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I do think there are cancer causing some chemicals in sunscreen. Smearing heavy metals like titanium on your skin, probably not a great idea. But No. Like, gradual sun exposure throughout the year is just the simplest thing. Like, I ride a bike. So I go out as soon as it's slightly sunny in March and April. I get a little bit of sun exposure. You get more and more and more effect. Yeah. I don't get burnt. Mhmm. I never get burnt. Yeah. Easing into it. The problem is most people spend all of their fucking life indoors, and they'll go out on a hot August day in shorts and flip flops and a fucking vest, and then they'll get absolutely lobstered and then go, oh, I wonder why I got sunburn.
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Yeah. That's true. Yeah. You you go on holiday and you're like, sunscreen? Don't need that shit. Day one.
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In fucking Portugal or somewhere like that.
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Yeah. I've done that before, like, a couple of holidays ago where I hadn't barely seen the sun for, like, a year, and I just went out day one. Missus was sick, and I was like, ah, get out by the pool. Just got battered on cocktails and just lay there with no sunscreen. And the next day, it was in
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Mhmm. Unbelievable pain. I bet you were wearing sunglasses as well, weren't you? Yes. Yes. I was. Yeah. So your eyes are photoreceptors. And based on the amount of light that your eyes are detecting, your body will release a chemical, melanopsin, which will help protect you from the sunburn. But if you've got sunglasses on, the melanopsin release is not as high, so you're more likely to get sunburn if you're wearing sunglasses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I I did it all right. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you do it on holidays, isn't it? Yeah. You were hammered. You got burnt by the pool. Yeah. Right. I've got loads on here, but should we just get down to the juicy bit, which is the performance enhancement? Because I'm sure people could talk about training and sleep and all that shit. Yeah. But should we just let's just get to the good stuff. Yeah. Let's do that. I will quickly say, everyone who thinks they're training with weights, you're probably doing it wrong, and you're probably a pussy.
Go and have a look on a website called EXRX and look at the strength standards. Look at your body weight and look at your lifts. If you don't know your one rep maxes, you're definitely doing it wrong. You should be able to squat one and a half times your body weight for five reps. If not, you're a beginner. Okay? Okay. If you can't bench press somewhere near your body weight for at least three reps, you're a beginner. Okay? These are real basic tests of strength, and these strength standards come from the fifties. Long and short of it, go and get a five by five program. There's loads of free ones. Mark Ritos, Texas Smith. Don't be a pussy. Don't be a pussy. Get on something serious like Wendler five three one. Get fucking strong. Don't be doing some bodybuilder program where you're doing 10 sets of 10 reps that's gay. Five by five.
I did all my training naturally at the beginning when I first started lifting weights, and I got up to squatting a 50 Kilograms. For three sets of five, deadlifting a 80 for sets of five, shoulder pressing sort of 50 for five reps, and benching sort of sixty, seventy. I've got a problem in my shoulders from it, so that is a shit bench. But all of those are achievable naturally within a few months. Mhmm. And if you aren't doing that, then you're a pussy, and you need to get on a proper strength training program.
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Okay. So that's all I can say about that. Glad we cleared that up. I would be in that pussy category now then because I don't have a gym where I am now. So all I have is a TRX band thing, which I just hang off something, like hang off a beam that I've got and then just do all body weight stuff. Because I'm so strong, I'm doing reps of, like, twenty, thirty on most of these things because there's just not enough weight, unfortunately. So I would be in that pussy category. There's always ways you can make it harder. Like,
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during COVID, I didn't have access to a bench, and that was difficult. You know? I couldn't squat, so I was doing fucking deadlift reps. And this is in upstairs in a flat. The poor, well, poor cunt below me complained and was being a dick about it. So fucking but, yeah, I was doing a lot of deadlifts as heavy as I could and a lot of shoulder press. But in order to keep my chest good, I would do, like, you know, the push ups, but I'd be putting my legs really high up. Mhmm. So your kind of body's at a diagonal pointing downward. So there's always ways to increase the load.
I'm not sure that increasing the reps, but at the same time, I ended up doing, like, hundreds of push ups every night Yeah. At some point just just to keep it going. And it did fucking work when we got back into the gym. And then I was like, let's see how a hundred kilos, which is two hundred and twenty pounds for the yanks. It was good. It was good. It was there was a very minimal drop off. You know? And I was like, okay. So push ups and shit can do a lot. Okay. Good to know. Okay. Let's get into the real stuff. We spent nearly an hour chatting about this. How do we improve our performance and improve our health quickly and easily with some pharmaceuticals? That's what everyone really wants to know. That's what we're on the know. The number one thing I'm gonna recommend for everyone is a growth hormone secretagogue.
So what this is is something that you can take that causes your body to naturally release human growth hormone. So it's not same as putting human growth hormone into your body. It's not exogenous. It's not stuff from outside. Mhmm. You're telling your body to release more. Okay. It's a very simple oral medication that you can take called MK six seven seven. Now do check the legality of this in your place. Like, in The UK, this stuff is just order it online, and it comes through the post. That's it. And it's not illegal. It's not regulated in any way, shape, or form. And I've never really had any problems with quality. Olympus Labs do some good stuff, but I've just bought generic MK six seven seven a bunch of times.
And I know it works because the only side effect I've ever noticed is I get quite hungry.
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Okay. Is it expensive?
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Not really. I mean, a bottle of fifteen milligram pills, about, say, let's say 60 pills, They're about $30.40 quid in The UK, so maybe $50 if it's equivalent pricing in The US.
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That's still quite a lot, though. That's still, you know, $50 a month.
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Yes. But you don't need to run it forever. Right. You run it for a month. It's one of those great supplements that you can just take, and the benefits aren't immediately realized, but they last a really long time. Okay. So with increased growth hormone in your body, it's basically like a teenager. You know, teenagers have really high levels of growth hormone, obviously, for that growth spurt that they go through. Mhmm. The things that you'll notice, that quick healing, that crazy teenager sleep Mhmm. A bit of an increased libido, I noticed as well, Some increased hunger, but a decrease in body fat and a very slight increase in musculature. It's not gonna pack the pounds on you. Mhmm. It's not really gonna be noticeable.
It will improve performance. So I did notice my lifts going up. You know, I track my one rep maxes when I did this the first time, and, yeah, there was a real bump in the lifts. Mhmm. So that was noticeable. Don't expect to see results for the first three weeks. Takes a while to kick in, but, like, by week four and five, you're just like, ah. And then the long term benefits you start to see are improved skin, hair, nails, like decreased wrinkles, I believe, like a younger looking face. Yeah. I reckon that one is a no brainer for me. If someone said to me, look. I wanna take something. In fact, I recommended it to a colleague a while back. And just, you know, you throw out these recommendations. You don't expect anything. And he came back to like, I saw him a couple of months later, and he's like, oh, I got that m K677.
It was great. It's brilliant. I love it. Thank you so much for that. Oh, right. Okay. Cool.
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So you could sort of do it you could, like, maybe cycle it. You do it, like, once Yep.
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Once a year or once a quarter or something like that. My sort of pro recommendation is get as much as you can and take it for as long as you can. Right. I will say, if you already have a cancer tumor, that motherfucker's gonna grow.
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Okay. So, yeah, don't don't do that.
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Don't do it if you've got cancer Okay. Or if you're a fat cunt. Yeah. I've already given you the first thing that you can take if you really wanna start using pharmaceutical interventions, and that's an oral medication. Beyond this point now, it's needle time. Okay? So we're gonna start you off with some more growth hormone secretagogues, but these are gonna be used with the insulin needles. So that there's very small little needles that you see scattered around in the street in lovely areas of built up cities. Mhmm. So the difference here is MK six seven seven is kinda like a sledgehammer. It will increase your growth hormone, but it all it will do is just get your body to release the maximum amount. Now there are other growth hormone secretagogues that, well, are only active through either injection or you combine nasal sprays.
Mhmm. Nasal sprays are apparently very effective, but they're more expensive because you're using a lot more. You know, if you're injecting it, it's going straight into the body, whereas if you're sort of nasaling it, much of it's kind of exhaled and wasted. So there's a couple of compounds that I'm gonna recommend. One's called ipamorelin, and one is called CJC twelve ninety five. Now peptides, which is what these are, they're not like hormones. Hormones is kinda like a a master key that you go into a building and you can open loads of doors and flip loads of switches and turn loads of shit on. Whereas peptides are much smaller molecules which only activate a few discrete pathways.
So they're a lot more controlled. They have a lot more specific effects. Okay. I can't remember which way round it is. I think the CJC twelve ninety five increases your body's ability to produce growth hormone. So it kind of fills your reservoir and increases the reservoir of growth hormone that's there in the pituitary gland. If you take CJC twelve ninety five and a growth hormone releaser like ipamirillin or MK six seven seven, together, those are gonna have it's like a one plus one equals five kind of deal. Mhmm. And I got my little notes here. So saturation dose is at around a hundred micrograms per kilogram.
If you then go up and double the dose, so say you take two hundred micrograms per kilogram, you're only gonna get a 50% result. Right. And if you then double again to get four hundred micrograms per kilogram, you're getting a 75%. So there's no point. You get this diminishing return as you increase it. Mhmm. So I was using a hundred and fifty micrograms of ipamorelin and a hundred micrograms of CJC twelve ninety five a day as a sort of mixed injection.
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Okay. And this just goes into your belly fat, doesn't it?
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Yes. You're not inject I've never injected anything at all into my bloodstream no matter how much of a drug fiend I come across as on the previous pod. I've only ever injected, like, intramuscular or, subcutaneous, so into the body and belly fat. So Okay. Yeah. And it it's not that bad. Like, my buddy I'm gonna talk about TRT next. My buddy has just started it. He's gone for a clinic. And, you know, I said to him, well, how did you find pinning yourself for the first time? And he was like, oh, yeah. It was pretty sketchy, scary, but he's been doing it into the belly fat. Mhmm. And I was like, I remember when I first did it. I fucking you know, all the juice heads online, they tell you to buy this, that, and the other. And it's like I used the McDonald's straw to inject it into my ass. Mhmm. Just were, like, literally right into my asshole.
And I've done it in my shoulders, which was horrible. I wouldn't recommend that. But, the injecting can be quite sketchy and scary. There are loads of people who do it every day with insulin and things like that. If you try MK six seven seven and you're kind of like that, this is impressive, and you wanna go to the next step and try the epimeraline and the CJC twelve ninety five, you can buy the nasal sprays, but it's much cheaper and much more effective in the vials. Do make sure you use proper bacteria, static water, and good sterile principles. You know, wipe your vials. I always used to keep my vials in the freezer and defrost them. Mhmm. Because these compounds, once mixed with water, they do start to degrade slowly.
Okay. So I just freeze them and defrost them and use them, or I'd fill up my syringes and then freeze those. Just take the syringe out and use it and bin it. Do get a sharps bin. Sharps bins don't cost a lot. It's nice. Some poor bin man worrying that he's got AIDS because he's jabbed himself on your growth hormone to create a cogs. Yeah. That's a good point. Don't be a cumber. Don't be a cumber.
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Yeah. The the thing is with the injectables, like, for me, just being a pussy, like, I fucking hate needles. So for me, I'd instantly be like, nah. That's not for me. That's just not not for me.
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They are so thin. I I've got my packet here. What are they? They are 30 gauge, naught point three mil. So it's a third of a millimeter wide. Mhmm. Like, you really can't feel it. You really can't, especially when you're sticking yourself in the belly fat.
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I guess the fatter you are, the more comfortable it is.
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I don't think it really makes any difference. Like, I personally, when I do injections because the next thing we talk about is straight TRT. Mhmm. I actually take my time, put the needle just on the skin, and I look for a point where it hurts less. Mhmm. Because there are some points where it hurts a lot more. Mhmm. There's more nerves in that part of the skin. Mhmm. So there are times when I go to put, and I'm like, no. That hurts there. And I just move it, like, you know, just like a few mil across. And then the next point, it just doesn't hurt as much. Okay. And if you watch how nurses do it, they will just fucking jab it in Oh, okay.
Press it down. I'll always sit down, take my time. I always buy the isopropyl alcohol wipes and wipe the piece of skin first. Mhmm. Because if you don't, you can get infected. Mhmm. And that sounds worse than it is. But I've had red rashes where I've injected too fast or forgotten to wipe beforehand. Do follow good procedures and do take your time. Mhmm. I can just say that. If you wanna go beyond the growth hormone secreted gogs into testosterone, you are gonna have to use needles. There is no orally bioavailable test.
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Okay.
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There is stuff that you can get. There's an oral tablet called Proveron, also known as mestelerone, and this has androgenic activity. So steroids are actually known as AAS, anabolic androgenic steroids. Now that means they have two modes of function. The anabolic, I'm sure you can guess what that means. But the androgenic is more the sex hormonal side of things. Mhmm. If your reason for wanting TRT is not that you're puny and have your skinny fat and all this kind of stuff, if your reason for wanting it is low mood, low energy, poor sleep, and your PECCA just doesn't work, but you're you're happy with your physique, do consider Proveron, mestelerone as an oral option. Okay. You can avoid the needles, and you can have the androgenic effects. So improved mood, improved sleep, improved sex drive, improved sexual performance, all of that will come from Proveuron, mister Lorraine.
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Okay.
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So that can work. And if you were wanting to add in some anabolics on top, you could do that. The problem is that most orals are liver toxic. Proveuron is not liver toxic.
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Okay.
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So there's a standout TRT type drug that will give you some benefits without having to use needles.
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Good. Okay.
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But test is best. Test is best. Let's be honest. Testosterone, it really is. Now we wanna talk about TRT because that's what everyone really wants to hear about, is the dosage of test. Test is pretty easy to get hold of in The UK and know that it's super illegal in America. In The UK, actually, testosterone is legal to possess. If I went to a country where it was legal, so let's say I went to Thailand and bought a load in a pharmacy or Mexico, if I fly back to The UK and it's in my suitcase, if as long as it's for personal use of body modification, that's perfectly legit and legal. Mhmm. Okay. And if I'm caught in possession, that's perfectly legit and legal as well. So we actually have really good sort of liberal laws around testosterone in The UK and steroids.
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Okay. So UK is fine. America,
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not? In the land of the free, it's fucking hard. I I I've I've seen videos of guys driving. You know, if you live on near the border, they'll drive into Mexico. You know, they'll shoot all their gear and then just drive back with nothing on them because they're so scared of the border patrol catching them. Ah. Again, it is legal in the pharmacies in Mexico. You can just buy it. But, yeah, I know people are stuffing their cars, pulling apart their dashboard, and shoving
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little vials in. It's super illegal in America thanks to fucking Joe Biden back in the eighties. What a cunt. But so What a cunt. You can do it, though. You just gotta go to a doctor and pay presumably quite a lot of money for them to do it for you.
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Yes. So my buddy who lives in London, and he's pretty well off, shall we say. He's gone private, and he's got a script for his test. And they've done a decent job. You know? I look he he sent me it and said, this is what they've they've told me to take. And I was like, that's good. That's good. I would not have recommended anything different to that. Yeah. So he's on a hundred and fifty milligrams a week. When I was on I'm coming off I've stopped taking tests now. I was on two hundred mix a week, which is kind of the sports dose. Mhmm. You know? It's kinda like Tom Brady kind of level. Mhmm. It's like really high natural. It's it's within the natural range, but it's at the top end of it. Yeah. Whereas an actual steroid cycle, like, I'm gonna get juiced up and get big, they start at around 500 a week. Oh, shit. Okay. I've taken
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a thousand a week. Oh, you can. Tom Brady's on two hundred, and you're on a thousand.
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There's loads of dudes that have done way worse. Way worse. Okay. It gets a little confusing with testosterones as well because there are these different esters. So they all have the they have, like, an oil attached to them. Mhmm. So you inject it into your body, and the oil dissolves into the fatty tissues. And then the body there's there's a enzyme that breaks the ester off, releases the free test, and it gets it out. And the longer the ester that's attached, the slower it takes to release. Okay. So if you were to get something with a really long ester, so a decanoate ester, it will stay in your body a long time. It will release slowly.
If you get a really short ester, like propionate, that's a lot quicker. My buddy, he started it, and I was like, how are you feeling? He's like, two weeks, nothing. I was like, yeah. Because he was on enanthe, which is the most common ester. There's enanthe and cipionate, which are both very similar in terms of the ester length. I personally preferred enanthe because the ester's slightly lighter, so you get a little bit more test for the money. Okay. Because the weight the number of milligrams that they put into the vial, if the Ester is slightly heavier, then you're paying you know, you're getting more Ester than you are test. So, yeah, I would recommend an anthate. But if I'm absolutely being honest, I would buy a proper bodybuilder blend called t 400.
That normally is a blend of very long and some short ones. If I was gonna recommend someone to get some if you were buying it yourself, obviously, the best way to do is go to a clinic, go see a doctor. But it's very cost effective to go and just buy some shit yourself and just use it. Mhmm. And there are lots of forums. There are lots of boards available. Simple, easy way, if you don't wanna fuck around, buy some enanthe or some saponate and take, let's say, half a mil a week. Use a small insulin needle, wipe the top of your vial with with the wipes, sterile wipe, stick the needle in, suck out half a mil, wipe your belly, stick it in your belly fat, and inject it. Watch YouTube videos on all this stuff. It's all there. Mhmm. That's a nice, quick, and easy one. If you wanna be a bit more, like, fancy pants about it, there's a blend called Sustanon, which has a blend of these short acting esters and these long acting esters.
And that will mean that you get that immediate bump, and you also get that long term effect. Okay. Because if you're just using the short acting stuff, which are like a athlete will use, you have to inject, like, every day or every other day. Oh, shit. Ball ache.
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Okay. It's real ball ache. And if you're if you're using the other one, it's what? Weekly? Or
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Yeah. I would just do a one weekly injection. Okay. A one weekly injection of half a mil of t four hundred. So I'd get two hundred milligrams of test every week. It was long acting esters that would slowly release, and I had a nice consistent level. You feel great. Top of the world.
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How would somebody do the testing, like blood test? Presumably, when you go to a doctor, they presumably are gonna sort of check your bloods every
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so often to make sure that you're in the right range and then adjust accordingly. Like, how would you go about doing that if you're doing it at home? Well, here in The UK, I just went to the doctor and said my dick don't work, and I and I can't sleep. And I listed a whole bunch of low t symptoms, and I said, I think my test is low. Mhmm. And they did a test for me and actually managed to get a couple of tests out of the NHS for me doing that. Oh, wow. I knew that my test was low because I just finished the cycle. So we'll get into this in a minute, but when you take testosterone exogenously, your natural production shuts down.
Okay. This is the real issue. So I knew that I was gonna have a low test result. I went in, and the result was low because I just wanted to check my post cycle therapy was working. Mhmm. And then they scheduled a retest, and I was taking these post cycle therapy drugs, Clomid, clomiphene citrate, and nolvadex. But Clomid and nolva, if you look up PCT, which stands for post cycle therapy, you'll you'll find loads of people talking about shit online. I personally don't ever advocate PCT. I think it's one of the worst things to do because what you take is these kind of estrogen similar chemicals.
The reasons why is too long to go into, but it can make you feel quite miserable Right. Emotional, hormonal, irrational. You know, if someone asks you where you wanna go for dinner, you have no idea.
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Right. Okay. Like, you are literally a female.
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Yeah. What I found after a lot of trial and error was there's a it's a compound that, again, it's freely available in The UK called HCG. So I personally would not recommend anyone take testosterone or any suppressive androgen hormones without HCG as well. HCG stands for human chorionic gonadotropin. So what it does is it's it tells your balls to work. Okay. The way your system, your HPTA, works is that there's an on switch. That's it. There's no off switch. There's just an on switch. Okay. So when test is low, the brain presses a button, and then that fires the testes up. You start injecting loads of testosterone. Testosterone level is high, and it goes, oh, it's really high, and it stops pressing the button. Mhmm. You stop releasing any gonadotropins.
And then this is where the small dick myth comes from. Test, if anything, test will cause your dick to sort of swell a little bit. If you combine that with things like Viagra or what's the other one, Cialis and a dick pump, you can actually put an inch on your dick. K? I'm not joking. Go check out Mark Bell's Power Project, the episode where they have Susan Bratton, I think it is, the sex specialist that goes into all this stuff. And, like, it's fucking hilarious because they're like kids in a candy store just laughing away at this milf talking about dick pumps and and all this kind of stuff. But, they went through a whole phase about sexual health because they're like, Mark's a big juice head. They're they're very open about it. Like, you can increase your dick size. So but your balls will shrivel. Okay? And I know this the hard way that, like, firsthand, I've had, like, fucking they look like Places. Cats.
Yeah. Tiny little things. So I'm coming off of everything now because I wanna mind some kids, hopefully.
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Mind some kids.
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Yeah. But, unfortunately, my servers are were looking a little bit depleted. So I've stopped the test, and all I'm on now is HCG. And, like, literally, the other day, I walked into the living room with my plums in my hand. I just sort of showed the missus. It was like, look how big they are. Full size again. And, you know, going back a couple of months, I remember going, babe, look how small they are. Like raisins. Like, so big. So tiny. So this is the real, for me, the problematic side effect of taking hormones. Any kind of androgenic hormone is that you are gonna shut down your own natural production. If you've got four kids and you don't want any more, like, give a fuck. Yeah. Like, that was kind of the reason I started on TRT. I just kind of, like, early forties, single, and I was like, it's not gonna happen now. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just let let's just juice up to the max. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, circumstances have changed. So now I've come off the tee. Like I said, I've got a nice, full, firm pair of plump balls, and, that's all thanks to this human chorionic gonadotropin.
And as I said, my buddy who just got recommended TRT, so he went to the clinic, yeah, private clinic. They've done his test. Test was low. They've given him hundred and fifty milligrams to test a week, but more importantly, they've put him on HCG as well. Right. So they do it at the same time. So it's like it starts from shutting down. Yeah. Yeah. I've argued to death when I was still on Reddit, and I can't believe I was ever on there. But, like, there are some people that will try and tell you that the sort of PCT chemicals like Nova and Clomid will somehow magically increase testosterone production in the balls and prevent them from atrophying.
And when I say atrophying, like, it's not painful, but you can feel your balls, like, shriveling.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It's like an un slightly uncomfortable, slightly tight feeling in the balls. They shrivel up, and they essentially, they are atrophy and a waste in a way. Do not believe these twats online that tell you that NOVA and Clomid will keep your balls firm and plump. The only thing is HCG, and there's an an analog called HMG. Those are the only things that will keep your balls going. So if you're gonna do this, fucking get the HCG as well. Okay. Because at the end of your cycle, if your balls are all still intact, you stop taking the stuff, and you're back to normal really quickly. Whereas if you don't take it, they shrivel up. It takes three or four weeks. And in that time, you're miserable as fuck.
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Right. Okay. So for the people who are listening who are thinking, right, this could be useful. This is something that I think I need to do. I'm already eating healthy. I'm already, like, sleeping as much as is possible in my life, doing all the things and training, but my testosterone is low. They could presumably pay for a blood test separately that would show their levels, and then they could buy and and, like, administer this themselves is one option, or they can just go to a doctor and do it. But the doctors are gonna be I don't know what I mean, what does something like that cost if you go to a doctor? I didn't ask. My buddy is not shy of a few dollars. He's like a London City boy Right. Type. Look. All I know is it cost me, like, $5 a month. $5 a month. Oh, wow. £5 a month.
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Yeah. Like, a a vial of t four hundred is £40, and it lasts me twenty weeks. Right? That's the maths. And you can just order that online, presumably? You get a 10% discount if you're paying Bitcoin for a lot of these people as well. Oh, okay. Very nice. Yeah. If you want to source it, there's a really great website called Eroids. No hyphens or anything. Just Eroids. And they'll have a tab at the top for suppliers, and you can select your region, US, UK, Canada. Use the code Unconfeinable.
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Not really. They don't just want to show before I get in trouble.
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But, like, yeah, I always just went on Eroids, looked at who was, like, top 10 suppliers in The UK, looked at their websites to see if they had the products I wanted, and then see what their, sort of checkout system was Mhmm. And went for whoever I felt comfortable with. I've never been ripped off through it Mhmm. Yet touch wood. Your experiences may vary. Certainly, here in The UK, it's really fucking easy to get a hold of, and it's really cheap. Okay. And, also, it's on dark markets as well.
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Okay. If someone's gonna do it, I would think that the best thing is that they do regular or semi regular blood test to make sure that they're in a reasonable range and they're not doing anything that's fucking retarded or that they're not undershooting or overshooting things. That would presumably be something that you could pay for privately and get a load of other markers checked and then still administer at home. Because my guess is I don't know what it's gonna cost at doctors, but my guess is it's gonna be at least 500 a month, isn't it? Like, you're gonna you don't ever walk into a doctor and they're like, yeah. That's that's 30 pounds. Like, it's I mean, like, it's it's gonna be, yeah, you know, you come in and we're gonna put you on this program. We're gonna inject you once a week, and it's a hundred and £50 a week or £250
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a week or 500 a week. It's not gonna be less than that. Yeah. It's not gonna be cheap. No. And if you wanna go for a centralized model, that's entirely up to you. I will say this. Like, I have pushed this shit to some very extreme levels. I've seen. Yeah. I mean, I I I ended up coming off of the sort of anabolics because I was just too big in the end. It was just obvious.
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Yeah. Yeah. You're a monster.
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Yeah. It's because I was using the anabolics at the same time as the growth hormone releases. I've not even touched on just injecting straight growth hormone because it's not something I've done. I found that the just releasing my own growth hormone was way effective enough. But the synergy of using some tests and some growth hormone release, that is like a one plus one equals five. Mhmm. And that was when I just fucking blew up. And, like, yeah, I got to the point where I was like, okay. This is obvious now, so let's let's come off. And I also kinda got bored of working out a little bit. Yeah. I'd kind of hit some of my goals. If If anyone's interested, personal best, like, I deadlifted, like, two seventy five, which is, I don't know what that is. Is it in pounds? It's like 660 pounds. Shoulder press was a 25.
That's like it's like nearly 300 pound shoulder press. Yeah. That's decent. Like, it was higher than my bench because of my janky shoulder. Yeah. Your shoulder's
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proper fucks. Like, for anyone listening, if someone if someone's like, oh, everyone's got a bad shoulder. Like, I've got a rotator cuff in injury. No. No. No. If you look at Karim, he's got this snapped fucking bone, which is, like, totally in the wrong place, and it all just looks like it looks like you've been in a fucking car crash. Yeah. It was a it was a nasty bike crash, BMX crash, where I just
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tore the all of the tendons away, so I didn't snap the bone. But the tip of the clavicle that attaches to the shoulder, that was completely severed from the the shoulder. And then some of the tendons that hold it to the chest were were also torn, so the collarbone was kind of just, like, flapping around loose, which if I'd have actually broken the collarbone, I would have had probably a better prognosis for recovery. My shoulder was fucked for quite a long time. I couldn't raise it above arm level. That's one of the reasons I started working out that and, sciatica. Worked out naturally for a while. Just got addicted to the numbers. You know? Once I got to work a 80 kilo deadlift naturally, I was like, how far can I push this? And then I just started, you know, juicing up. That's where it gets dangerous is, like, obsession with the numbers. Because it's like, most people, generally, they get into the gym to be like, I wanna be physically
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strong, and I wanna look good. Like, okay. That's my goal. But then once you do it long enough, it is like, no. The number is the goal. Like, that's that's what it will Number co ops. Yeah. Number num n g u. And it's then it's like, actually, you start looking less aesthetically pleasing. You probably start to get less healthy because you start pushing things too far. And like you say, it's like it can get boring. So, I remember you doing that and being like, I don't need to be any stronger than I am. I'm fucking bored. I'm taking up jiu jitsu and cycling again. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. And that's it. Now I can, can say, honestly, like, obviously, from the last pod, I've been a degenerate drug addict for the last year or so. Yeah. And,
[01:19:10] Unknown:
the health benefits of what I did in my thirties and forties are insane. Like, I still have severe amounts of muscle mass. I'm, you know, very strong. I have a very high metabolism. I don't really put weight on. I weigh myself every day. I keep an eye on that. You know? I I do try and keep those principles of eating, but the muscle burns the calories. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it also acts as body armor in terms of like, I've had some nasty falls since I gave up weight lifting and started riding, but the worst that's happened is I've broken my foot. You know? And that was kind of repaired. Ah, I should say there is some amazing peptides for healing as well.
TB 500 and BPC one fifty seven. So I this is during COVID. I was living near some, like, really nice jumps in the woods, some dirt jumps. I got a bit too comfortable, and I took, like, a bad tumble and smashed my knee into the ground. And it seemed okay, but I fucking went and lifted weights on it. Silly cunt. Yeah. And then it just blew up. And then I went to hospital during COVID, and they were cunts about it. The X-ray man was just bending my knee loads to do the X rays. I was like, dude, you really hurt me, really hurt me. It's swelling up. And then they were like, look. We've done the X rays. It's all soft tissue damage. I was like, but I can't move my leg now because the X-ray guys just fucking, like, twisted me up Like, I was in jiu jitsu lesson. And they were like, just get out of the hospital because it's COVID, and they kicked me out. Because it's COVID.
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So I just went home. I was like Well, can I just ask, were you wearing your Bane mask? Because that might have something to do with it.
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They gave you, like, little surgical masks when you get there, but, like, yeah, I don't think I had I I only went shopping once in my Bane mask during COVID. The security guard just went, nice mask. So, yeah, after flagging a taxi down and just going, please drive me around the corner, give you a fiver to my car. And then getting home, I just went online, and I was like, right. What do I need? TB five hundred, BPC one fifty seven, and I was literally injecting it into my fucking swollen ass knee that looked like a melon. And, honestly, it just shrank in days. They call it Wolverine in a bottle, that common that mix.
So and I can only recommend UK suppliers direct hyphen peptides UK have been really good to me. Mhmm. Promo code. But, yeah, there there is the direct peptides, but it's a direct hyphen peptides that I get my stuff from, and I've been really impressed with those people. You can probably get some of the stuff that we're talking about as nasal sprays or just comes in vials. Mhmm. But, yeah, there's loads out there that we could potentially talk about, but we know we've got a hour hard stop on this one. Yeah.
[01:22:08] Unknown:
Well, I think, you know, I think would be good is I think we've sort of covered the diet stuff that most people listening to this are fairly clued up on. Yeah. I think the TRT stuff is something that a lot of listeners we have quite an old listener base, you know, that kind of, like, John's age listener base and 80. Yeah. And I think a lot of them are either on it or considering it. I'm getting to the stage where I'm like, I'm probably not that far off considering I can still make some changes to my lifestyle to, be better, but I'm probably, you know, five years off being where I'm like, yeah. I need to seriously consider doing this. And it's just a sort of fact of life. And I think, you know, when you're talking about the numbers where you're like, oh, it cost me £5 a month.
Mhmm. It's like a lot of people will be listening to this and being like, I can't afford to go to a doctor and pay whatever 500, a thousand, 2 thousand. Fuck knows what it's gonna be, but it's not gonna be cheap.
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But I could afford that, and I could afford a blood test every couple of months privately. I I can't imagine that's crazy money. And so The blood tests, there are a lot of people that provide these home blood tests. You get, like, a little Lancet thing. You just prick your finger with, I mean, the sexual health tests come the same sort of thing. You just prick your fingers, send it away, and they tell you you have got eight. So I'm sure you can get cheap. I think it's about a hundred quid for a a home testosterone test, And then they'll try and fucking sell you stuff, but you can just do the test every now and then. You can take control of it and have the keys to your own health. Then you can vary the dosage to what you feel appropriate.
There are a couple of sides we probably should just throw in as well. Like, one of the things that is always gonna happen when you increase your test level is that your cholesterol levels are gonna go up. Okay. Now jury's still out on that. I I personally I I have a had a heart defect. Okay? So this is not to do with steroids. Okay? This is an electrical default in the heart that was then exacerbated by COVID. So I have been to doctors. I had two surgeries to remove this wiring connective tissue in the heart. They were constantly obsessed with checking my blood pressure. There was never any question of blood pressure issues. So there's no blockage or, you know, furring of the arteries that's detectable in my cardiovascular system whilst there is this this red light about, oh my god. Testosterone will increase your, cholesterol profile. It's like, yeah. It will, but so will, carnivore diet. And, again, these are generally associated with improved health markers.
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Presumably, when you do these blood tests, you could ask to see all the different markers. Like, could you not check for cholesterol from your blood test and testosterone levels and all this stuff? Yeah. I think cholesterol tests are well easy to get hold of of as well. But what I'm saying is can't you just do one fucking blood test for all them all that just tells you all the shit you need to know? Like, here's my blood. Right? You're gonna test it for a load of shit. Can you just tell me what's my testosterone level? What's my cholesterol level? Blah blah blah. Like, everything.
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I mean, if you're going through a private doctor, yes. I actually had quite a good hormone panel through the NHS. I made up a bit of a story. I was like, yo. Me and my wife are trying to get pregnant. My date don't work. I'm I like it. These are the symptoms of low testosterone. Mhmm. You know, I'm not sleeping very well. I'm finding it difficult in the gym. Mhmm. Or is it, like which was a bit of a you know, when you're walking in looking, it's getting juicy as well. Yeah. But doctors don't really know much anyway. Yeah. They know very little about endocrinology. Mhmm. It's same as that they don't know much about nutrition.
[01:25:49] Unknown:
They know nothing about nutrition. I think they get sent on one day every three years to learn about, like, the food pyramid. Oh, yeah. And then they learn way
[01:25:59] Unknown:
more about fucking what the new pharmaceutical insurance setup is. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. If you're I mean, if you're paying privately, you can get all this stuff. It's about being smart with it. If you are gonna take test, your cholesterol is gonna boost up a little bit, so you must have your diet in check beforehand. Okay? Mhmm. But if you're doing a hundred and fifty milligrams a week, that's not above baseline sort of natural levels. So there's no reason to expect that there's going to be any significant changes for that. Your body ran on that level for ten years between sort of ages of, you know, 12 and 22. Mhmm. Similarly, with the growth hormone stuff, if you're taking, you know, fifteen to thirty milligrams of MK six seven seven a day, you're not really pushing your body to a a level. You're not injecting amounts of, human growth hormone. You're telling your body to release the stuff it's got. Oh, by the way, it does release growth hormone when you are fasting as well. So this is an interesting effect where the hunger hormones when the hunger hormone is high, the growth hormone is released as well. So that's one of the reasons why the side effect of MK six seven seven is the increased hunger.
So and that one of the reasons why fasting is so effective. It's not just about reducing calories. It is about raising growth hormone as well.
[01:27:20] Unknown:
Interesting. So if I'm sticking to, like, a roughly sixteen to eighteen hour fast and then, like, having either one meal or maximum two meals and high protein and all that, Like, that puts me in a pretty good spot where likely I probably don't need the human growth hormone stuff.
[01:27:40] Unknown:
Probably. Look. You know, there's this andropause thing that you're not factoring in. From the age of 30, your testosterone level is gonna drop by a couple of percentage points every year. Yeah. And that's very variable. All of this is about there's no perfect because what are you gonna do? You're gonna drink tap water and calcify your pineal gland or drink bottled water and have microplastics settle in your balls? You don't have a lot a lot of choices. Neither, mate. I drink Perrier out of a glass bottle. Of course. Yeah. Your Vos or some shit like that. Yeah. If you can afford it. But don't let perfect be the enemy of good. If I was gonna say to you, just get a fucking bottle of MK six seven seven and just take two tablets a day, take thirty milligrams a day and just see what happens.
Okay? I promise you, you wouldn't be disappointed with the results. I'm guarantee you're not gonna have any sides that are gonna be, like, earth shattering or life changing. You might like I say, you might be hungry. The impact of these things, especially the growth hormone stuff, was very long lasting for me. And the sooner you get these effects, the sooner you can stop the aging process. You can reduce it. You can't really turn time back. No. There is some talk of stuff that lengthens your telomeres. I've not really looked into it. I've not tried it. I won't talk too much about it. But, essentially, what you wanna do is kind of freeze time now. And the longer you leave it, the later you're gonna freeze time.
[01:29:05] Unknown:
Okay. Well, what I think we should do is I think we've covered a lot of ground there. Loads of people are gonna listen to this, probably take some notes and think about what bits they might want to incorporate. And then there's probably gonna be some questions. So people will either boost in or XMRL chat in or put on the socials or whatever any questions. And then maybe we could because normally what I do, this would be under a confab. Mhmm. What I'll do is I'll then normally read the boosts at the beginning of the next confab. Maybe I could read the boost, but give your answers to any questions in that section. Yeah. No worries. That would be good because, otherwise, people are gonna have questions. And then what's gonna happen is people are gonna reach out to me, and they're gonna be like, oh, Max, what do I do about the BP five six two then, and what's that gonna do to my telemedicine? So I'll be like, listen, cunt. I'm not the fucking person to ask. Alright? Let me ask Keturin. I'll tell you what, though. Just experiment. I know that sounds really reckless.
[01:30:04] Unknown:
It was okay for me because I kinda know a bit of science, a bit chemistry. I do have a chemistry degree. So, like, I was okay with dosages and stuff like that. But Yeah. Yeah. Like, as long as you you do a lot of research beforehand and you kind of read around the edges and go, okay. This is what I'm gonna try. Pretty hard to fuck it up. Let's be honest. Okay. I tried. I tried. Yeah. You you went pretty mental, and you're used to the life. So that's that's that. I'm gonna give a quick shout out to Jack at Cake Wallet. So thank you, Jack, for sorting me out. I've been using Cake Wallet and Cake Pay, and I managed to fuck that up. But, yeah, have a cider for me, Jack. I just said, I promise I'd give him a shout out. Oh, very nice. Well, Jack, I don't think we've met, but thank you for helping out this retard. I do appreciate it. Seth will make sure Jack's on the next trip to Vegas. Yeah? That's that's what we gotta do for him. Yeah. I'm sure he will. I'm sure he will after this shout out. Thank you, Jack. Much appreciated. Yeah. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Jack. Alright, mate. Well, I appreciate your knowledge
[01:31:05] Unknown:
dropping the knowledge bombs all over the place here. Hopefully, people who are listening, especially the older ones, sort of feeble ones, can take this advice and boost their t levels and growth hormone and everything else. We will,
[01:31:18] Unknown:
answer any questions at the beginning of the next episode. Cool. Thank you for having me on. Thank you, everyone.
[01:31:25] Unknown:
Always a pleasure. Never a chore. Quite different to our last one. Yeah.
[01:31:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I know it sounds very contradictory for someone who was last time talking about saying drug used to be talking about health and longevity, but I'm putting drugs into my body and experiment. And so you can sense a theme.
[01:31:44] Unknown:
You just love drugs. It doesn't matter whether they're for health or for recreational. Just the love of drugs is there. I'm wizard archetype, I think.
[01:31:54] Unknown:
I'm definitely the kind of alchemist, mad scientist type always wanted to be. And that's that's it. I just experiment on myself, and I've loved it. I will say that. That that's my final sign off. I I cannot encourage you enough because your body is the car you drive around in. Imagine waking up one day, and instead of that shitty Vauxhall Astra, you've got a Porsche nine eleven. Right? That's what it's like when your body's on testosterone and growth hormone. You feel better. You look better. Fuck better. Women look at you differently. There's an aura when you walk into the room. It's just it is there is something you know, that's why it's a little bit addictive. I'll be honest with you because it's fucking great. Great. Sad enough. Right. Let's all, become more uncomfortable.
[01:32:39] Unknown:
Speak to you soon, mate. Ciao. Thanks for listening. I really hope you enjoyed that. If you did enjoy it or you have any questions, please reach out in the boosts or XMR chat for any questions. Even if you think we're talking shit or you, challenge some of what Karim has said there, then please get in touch, and we can dig into it a little bit more. I wanna say a big thank you to Karim for all the research she's done for this episode and to the rest of the team for everything that they do to keep Ungovernable Misfits going. We now have clothing back in the store, ungovernablemisfits.com.
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Dig Bick
Needles or Tablets
Test is Best
PCT & HCG
DIY or Big Pharma
The Benefits
Healing Potions
Final Thoughts
