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Show Notes

• Statistics: Global Hash Rate, Hash Value, Hash Price
• 21 Projects But a BitAxe Ain't One
• Pleb vs. Pioneer
• BOOSTS

Travis Bitckle | Pleb Miner in the Wild

• The Cheese Mine 
• The Hot Water Heater
• Questions for the Pleb
• Article for UGMF: https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/120v-powered-single-board-antminer-s19-jpro/
• Previous Appearance: https://fountain.fm/episode/SRfIOiU7yzOr1A97EKoo 

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(00:00:00) Banter Banter Banter

(00:03:13) What's The Plan?

(00:05:55) BOOSTS

(00:19:01) LAKE SATOSHI

(00:23:34) STATISTICS

(00:27:11) Global Hash Rate | STATISTICS

(00:31:55) Hash Value, Hash Price | Statistics

(00:36:21) Nico Smid's Insights | STATISTICS

(00:38:55) Pleb Miner in the Wild

(00:39:23) Travis Bitckle | Pleb Miner in the Wild

(00:43:13) The Cheese Mine | Pleb Miner in the Wild

(00:48:51) The Cheese Mine Cont'd | Pleb Miner in the Wild

(00:50:58) The Hot Water Heater | Pleb Miner in the Wild

(00:53:02) The Hot Water Heater Cont'd | Pleb Miner in the Wild

(01:01:34) Questions for the Pleb | Pleb Miner in the Wild

(01:07:27) The Re-Hash | Pleb Miner in the Wild

(01:14:48) ALTAIR is Innovative

(01:19:51) 21 Projects Better Than A BitAxe

(01:43:12) Pleb vs. Pioneer

(01:49:26) The Song of the Ungovernable Misfit

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Banter, banter, banter. How's your banter?  

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Top tier, mate. Always.  

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Always. This has been great banter for the past half hour. Maybe we should actually start the show. Mhmm. Good idea. I thought   so.  

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For your pleasure,   Uncoverable Misfits presents   the world's only Bitcoin mining news trip club,   Hashluts   Gentleman's  

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Club. Hash   sluts. Hash sluts. Hash sluts.  

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Hash sluts. Where our ladies are hot. But our hash bores are even hotter, cranking out 85 degrees.  

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They were hot?  

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No way, pal. Celsius.  

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85 degrees c?   Overclocking?   More like overclocking.  

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If you think the last difficulty adjustment was hard, check out the Hashlutz Rockin' Bonds. And speaking of difficulty adjustment, it's not the only thing that'll be going up.  

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Going up?   How about going down?  

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Going down? Going down on our famous all you can eat buffet, that is. Try out our signature nacho dish, guac and Asic chips. How many can you fit on your board? You got some on your chin. Let me get that. Thanks, Tammy.   We've got racks full of servers and girls with full racks.  

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We'll keep you running at peak efficiency   all night.  

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So come on down to Hashluts Gentlemen's Club, the only place where your layer two will make you wanna layer two.  

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Hashluts Gentlemen's Club. Woo hoo. Woo hoo. We're excited because TikTok  

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blocks don't stop and neither do we.   Thanks, Debbie.   Mhmm.   The two premier Hashlutz strippers,   Debbie   and Tammy.   They're twins, you know.  

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Makes it so much better.   What is wrong with men? I don't know why the twins thing is good. Why is that? I think it's because it's, like, fucked up. There's, like, a level of, like, oh, that's a bit fucked up.   Like Yeah. You know what I mean? It's always better when it's at least a bit fucked up.  

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It's always better when it's at least a bit fucked up. At  

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least a bit fucked up. That's gonna be on my tombstone.  

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Yeah. And that's a good one. Yeah. I don't know. That we may I I know,   there are a few t shirts on the ungovernablemisfits.com   website now, but Like, we have that. You will be, creating some new designs.   Mhmm. Maybe a redo of the Hash Sluts   design that Sarah did where the HashSluts, it it, like, goes back and forth.   The GIF, you mean?   Yeah. That GIF. Mhmm. If we can get Sarah to do it, like, where it's two girls   on a pole,   you know, Debbie and Tammy. Ugh.   And have them go back and forth. I'm gonna say, Hashsluts,   it's just a little bit fucked up.  



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It's the right amount of fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. That's perfect. That's it.  

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Ashsluts.   The right amount of fucked up.  

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Oh, we do it well.  

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Well, welcome to Ungovernable Misfits action news. I think this show is the right amount of fucked up.   I get the chance to see some other, you know, mining type pods, and it's usually just a bunch of dorks sitting in front of a camera with headphones on. Mhmm. And I think, man, there's just a reason   why   people have gravitated   towards ungovernable misfits. Mhmm. And this is it. Now I figured it out because we're the right amount of fucked up. That's it.   We'll go over the same stuff, but introduce   filthy comedy   Mhmm. Into mining statistics.  

It's not easy to do, but we've managed to pull it off   because we're the right amount of fucked up.  

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I also think we have the weirdest boosts.  

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Oh, yeah. You just want to get right into them.  

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Who was it? Who was like   explaining the 50 different ways they would kill us with their bare hands   and basically abusing us for missing   one of the blast boosts. I think it was aimed at Jordan more than us. And I was listening back to that, and I was like, this is great. That would be doctor Zhivago. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. It was an XMR chat boost. Yes.   Yeah. I listened to that and I'm like, this is great. This is what community is really about explaining how you're gonna kill each other. Sure. He's gonna wipe our miserable asses off the face of the planet and called us little shits.  

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Hey. You're gonna have to have your ass wiped at one point in life. It's just a matter of time. I just thought it was gonna be a a lot later than right now when I have my ass wiped. I'm just thinking, you know, like at least   forty years, thirty years, thirty five years. I don't know. Not now. I think if you take some longevity   tips, you've got another thirty, thirty five years before you got have your ass wiped. Mhmm. Top tier tips. Mhmm. Trying to get in a little bit better shape for Lake Satoshi. Yeah? Yeah. I'll be eating a little bit better. Okay. Have you been, training at all or you just you're probably too busy to actually do the training? I just work all the time. Yeah. Yeah. I know I know we're gonna get a PIES boost boost here that says, oh, I work fifty, sixty hours a week and still do my He does sixty hours a day.   In listening because he listened two times a week.  

Yeah. I'll probably be more thoughtful   about it. Mhmm. Kids are out of school, so Sarah and I will do our morning walks again. Nice.   It was great during COVID. We had our morning walks all the time because I brought my bucket truck home. And, you know, I wasn't starting my day until 07:00 in the truck itself.   So that enabled us to go take a walk. And then they get into middle school, and that bus shows up before seven. It's just impossible. But now it's summertime. We're I think they're gonna do our walks again. Okay. That's a nice way to start the day. It is. Yeah.   Well, a nice way to start the show is to read the boost, so go ahead and make that happen. Okay. Bugle news,  

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hashtag forty hours per week Mhmm. With 33,333   sats.   Goddamn. Fantastic episode as always.   Big time ballers, aren't they? These guys Thank you guys. Yeah. Man. Thank you very much.   Rod Palmer, Bugle News, hashtag forty hours per week with 21,000   sats.   Thanks for the ad for our Bitcoin conference, Bitcoin   podcast party,   satirize the system, Wednesday, May 28 at seven till 11PM   at the nerd on Fremont Street. The nerd, that's quite a good name.  

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It is a good name. Yeah. They said the venue was awesome. I was stuck in a barn the other day, and they had bowling alleys, and it was just, like, super hipster and cool.  

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Like it.   And a dirty bathroom,   which always helps. Did they have a dirty bathroom? Is is that what was Well, that's what Q was telling me. He was like proper dive bar with a filthy bathroom, and I was like, okay. I picked you up. Yeah.   I know where you were.   Been there many times. Thank you, Rob Palmer. Yeah.   Montani   with   oh, what? After the first couple, I don't put the numbers. Okay. You don't have. Okay.   Sat stacking pleb's work is inspiring,   and the man stands on business.   Hardest working pleb in the game.  

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Yeah. I'll agree to that. He stands on business.   Really enjoyed talking to Sat stacking pleb. I was in his area of the world,   on vacation last week. We were just so busy with it, but I I would have liked to have gone up and seen him. Yeah. That was a good episode. Next on boosts, we have Bad Manor.   Oh. We don't get a lot of boosts from him. No. So let's see if his boost makes any sense whatsoever. He boosted from Podverse. Is it gonna be friendly?   I don't know. Let's see. Listening to the action news cunts while cleaning smoker grates. Super sticky because of the Rod Palmer ingredients necessary for satirize the system event. What does that mean? He did he he must have made special jerky for the satirize the system event. Yeah. He did.   Yeah. Did he? I didn't because I have a bag. He sent me   a gift, and it's got something on there that I can't read. I think it says free.  

Free.   I mean, he gave me it all for free. I didn't pay for any   of this. I can't read it. I'm thinking maybe this one is is,   Rod Palmer's special ingredients.   Okay. I've got a, 3.5 ounces of mild, which the kids will eat, and then this one that says maybe says free, and then I got a hot one. I don't know if I just tear them fucking hot ones up. Yep. I got back from vacation.   There was a package in the house because our little neighbor boy was taking care of the chickens and the Oh. And the mail and such. Three bags of jerky,   an electric miniature screwdriver set, another manual miniature screwdriver set. Oh, I've seen those with the little plug on the skull on them. A beautiful note. Yes.  



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Oh.  

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I'm gonna read this one on there.   To our family, thanks for taking that Christmas photo with dad holding the shit axe I sent.   Hope to see you all in August.   That's at Lake Satoshi, obviously. Yeah. My children, blank and blank,   are definitely coming.   See you all soon.   PS, don't let dad eat all the jerky. Damn.   Burn   me.   Oh, what a guy. Hey. This isn't just, some Internet friends.   We're family here at Ungovernable Misfits. We are. Thank you very much, Barn.   If you would like earn Bitcoin stamps,   they're really high quality. Stampers,   buy Bitcoin stamps, Barn Jerky,   screwdrivers,   his version of the Plebmoner skull   shirt, it's these fishing shirts. You know these shirts are, like, long sleeve shirts and, like, kind of stretchy sweat wicking material.  



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Mhmm.  

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He does his Hashroots logo on the front and then the, Pleb minor skull on the back.   I think he has lighters on there, but that is, barnjerky.hashroots.i0   is his website, if you want any of that shit. If you want any of that shit. What a great ad read. I thought it was a good ad read. No. It was good until that last bit. If you want any of the shit People know what I mean. If you want any of those high quality products  

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Contact the goat.  

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Mhmm.   At one eight hundred   Next is late stage huddle.   I had to pause the pod after you mentioned jumping into a pool with a cold beer. I had to actually go do that. That's seriously considered my role here after listening to Pleb Miner in the Wild. John, I hope to find a moment to send you a video reply soon. Keep up the good work, gents. Let me write a little note to mention late stage HODL here later on in the show when we have   a conversation about pioneer   minors. This is an intellectual Silk Road discussion that, Richard Grieser   has started. Back to the boosts.  

John's mid boost read burp cracked me up. Just completely not expecting it and then But who?   Scheduled.   Rugby.   Stones.   I can tell Max is hearkening back to his UK home world and having too few chats with John. I didn't even hear a z on this episode.  

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Does that mean, like, you say zed? Yeah. I say zed. I've started to say zed.  

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I've noticed in your foundation.xyzed.   Yeah. And you say it all obnoxiously.  

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Yeah. Well, it's because I made a song, a foundation Christmas song that was like had foundation.   X, y, z. And then that really got in my head and then like z's got in there and I'm like, I spend so much time with you cunt. So I sort of almost might as well Yeah.   Just yield to the  

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What's the difference? Yeah. Who cares?   I don't care what you do.  

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But no, I don't miss The UK if that's what you're hinting   at.   I don't think he was. What was the scheduled rugby stones?  

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I can tell Max is hearkening back to his UK. He's hearkening back. I don't I don't know if it means that you you miss it. Oh, okay.   Yeah. I don't miss that. It's not you. I don't know. You'll always send these gifts like laughs in British and but I don't know. You're like a child of the world. You're like a mongrel. You're so worldly. So well traveled.   Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to say something nice. Oh, thank you. So well done. Yeah. Okay. You're just worldly. Mhmm.  

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No one can own you. Yeah. That's nice. I like that. Thanks, mate.   Bubba with 5,000 sats. Well, I ain't much of a pleb minors.   Hell, I ain't even a minor, but I am a great cheerleader.   Just imagine that for a moment, Bubba and full cheerleading get up. Just the right amount of fucked up.   That's actually too fucked up even for me. And sometimes   I even wear here we are. Sometimes I even wear the outfit when I'm feeling frisky.   There we go.   I love to hear about the real you can just do things, and they are actually doing things. Beyond that,   while I know what a concept.  

Beyond that, while Max is the Montana   being a dental floss tycoon   doing things.  

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He's made up a where you live now and your new vocation.   Just he's he's added to this mystique that I've created. I'm in Montana. Where in the world is Max bit by bit?  

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Being a dental floss tycoon, doing   things.   As usual, my morning   was made. Not that it takes much to make my morning. Me and the dog listened on the front porch,   Whelan and Willie approve.   By the way, don't ride for hours in the desert without ample water.   You'll see a horse in the desert with no name.  

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For the ring, nobody   to give you no name.  

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How's the new bike?  

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Have you seen this new bike? I did. Yeah. Is it nice? It's a big giant Goldwing. Yeah. Nice. I wanna take it for a little spin. Hey, Bubba. Let me ride your bike for a little bit at Lake Satoshi. Take it out for a little bit. Get away from the kids.  

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I've been saying to our missus the last couple of weeks. I think it's because we've only got one car here at the moment. It's, like, really making me a bit antsy, but I really want a motorbike again. Yeah. I keep just being like, fuck. I want a motorbike so much, and I've got my eye on a couple that I'd really like to buy.   It's really got under my skin again. It does this. It comes in waves, and I'm like, desperately want one, and then I'm like, nah. You're just gonna die. And then, like, I stopped for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Especially here because no one can fucking drive. The place that I am is   literally no one can drive here is   fucking appalling.  

So whatever I thought The UK, like, oh my god. People can't drive. Oh, they didn't indicate on that roundabout. Fucking hell. That's one bit I do miss the driving. So I'm thinking   motorbike here dead in. I'll probably give myself a week. Okay. So don't get one. Don't get one. Yeah. I know. I still want one. Madagascar is like that. Mhmm. It can be. You know, I I watched the Top Gear episode  

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about where you live now, and they were in Madagascar. And they, Good episode, though. You know, lots of huge potholes and Mhmm. Had to go through, like, a a creek bed or something like that. It was terrible. I I can understand. Yeah. I did watch that top tier that top tier.  

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Top top tier tier.  

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Top   tier. Top gear.  

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I like those ones where they go around the world and do weird   stuff. It's fun.   Great grand man. Great rip.   Keep on trucking.  

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Vester Bubba. I'm trucking,   got my chips cashed in.   These are my favorite. Chill now one, archive, action news, 14.   Moment one and block. Online   status. Fun with mental disorders.   Objective.   Influencing   the cunt culture.   Tool.path.   Making taglines. Where others see obstacles.   They trivialize   extraneous.   Argy bargy.   That's a new word for me. Echo.   Hash slots are live.   No, babe. I love your bias.   The other ones are too big.   Behind blinky lights and overheating circuits.   It's a message, a warning, a dream of what could be,   or what will be.  

Join two cunts unraveling the shadows within the network.   Archive log closed.   And there's an image of two words,   huge  

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cunts.  

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Was it spelled with a k? It is spelled with a k. Yeah. Is it like an AI image? No. It it's just words. It's just like a red red huge and then underneath that, cons red on a white background. It's nothing fancy about it.  

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Okay. I just wondered if the spelling was wrong just because I always get banned on Midjourney anytime I try and do anything. And so, like, you've gotta find a workaround. I was trying to do a load of images for Hash Sluts. Mhmm. Oh god. Got banned constantly. No. Can't do that. Can't do that. Can't do that. Fuck it now.   Very nice message, though. I love those. Join two cunts   unraveling the shadows within the network.  

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That's lovely. Yeah, man. We love it. We got a, just a one short boost from Pies. Pies, are you alright, man? You okay? Yeah. What's going on? We miss you, buddy. Summertime. It's construction season. Be working. Yeah. I heard that that he was gonna be a guest on a podcast. Really?   Yeah. Oh, that would be a good one. I believe I do believe it's an intellectual Silk Road podcast. Okay. That makes sense. We will not ruin anything for anybody, but, Pye is boosted.  

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Hey. Chingity ching.  

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Okay.   Pye is as a salute and a strong-arm as usual because he loves them strong arms.   Wow. Really screwed that up.   Big time streamer set in stone streamed 10,000   sets. Man, set in stone. Thank you very much. Wow. No waste. BTC   signs streamed,   1,890   sets. Block 7 streamed 1,460   sets. Sets Misfit streamed 1,080   sets.   Schnitzel   streamed 830   sets. I wonder how Schnitzel's doing. He's been plugging away on building that open source control board, the Libre board. But while he's plugging away   on building something new and open source and wonderful for the plebs, he streamed 830 sets to us. Thank you, mate. Appreciate that. Kaz Piland streamed 730   sets, and Pleb de Polymath streamed 720.  

Pleb to Polymath in particular, I will be seeing at the Lake Satoshi Bitcoin Beach Retreat.   Feeling good. How do you feel, Max?   Treat me.   Can you see it?   You can see it in your mind's eye, can't you? Took a look down the westbound road right away. I might be on a Honda Gold Wing. Borrow Bubba's Gold Wing. I'd love that. Head on down. That'll be it. Headed out to my big two wheeler. I was tired of my own  

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boy.   Yeah. Took a beat on the Northern Plains and just  

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You could be traveling there too. Maybe you're coming from Grand Forks, North Dakota,   driving across   west to east   to Langsburg, Michigan.   As you cross that border, you see that sign that says pure Michigan.   You know that the air is clean?   The water's clean unless you're in Flint. Just gotta worry about some varsnet and lead. No big deal. Just don't go to Flint.   You keep on driving,   keep on driving to Lansingburg, Michigan,   Lake Satoshi,   pull up down that dusty roads, you might even see somebody jumping a motorcycle   up somebody's ramps. They've they've taken all that sand and whatnot and made all these jumps for dirt bikes.  

So people zipping around on dirt bikes. People are zipping around on jet skis on the lake.   People are zipping around all over the place. Golf cart, side by side, whatever. Plenty of places to zip. Yeah. It's clean. The bikes are dirty. That's right. I like that one. I like that one quite a bit.   Whatever your style is, Gold Wing to,   KTM dirt bike Mhmm.   You can do it all at Lake Satoshi,   August 2. Community, friendship,   food.   Let me tell you about some food. I had already eaten. This was the last night last year, and I see them take out a couple big back straps out of a cooler, filet mignon,   and just cook these back straps around the grill and just dish them out to everybody.  



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Did you eat again?  

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I I didn't eat again. I think I had to put the kids to bed, and they were older for me because because the kids stopped me. No. I didn't get any of that fucking file. But this year,   old Sarah, she's coming too, so   split our time. Plus, the kids are older.   So I think it's gonna be a different experience for us. At Lake Satoshi. I'm just hearing from so many people that we're going to be there and our kids are going to be there. And I'm just so excited for   certain kids to meet other kids. Like you said, my kids, you know, like that letter that that Barnes sent, you know, we'll see you there.   Two of his children are going to be hanging out with my kids. I just think that's so, that's so special.  

These years and years   of building up trust amongst anonymous people,   it's difficult, but once you do build up that trust, it's so much more meaningful than saying, hi. I'm John. Hi. I'm Max. Nice to meet you. Oh, look. Our kids are playing together at at preschool.   Did you watch the sports ball? You know, that's that's not building real relationships.  

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Did you watch the sports  

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Satoshi. What a special thing this is gonna be. What a special thing this is turning out to be. Mhmm.   From my perspective and a lot of the ungovernable misfits people that are gonna be there because they listen to the show, they're not there for the speakers in the main part. But if that's something you're interested in, like that educational side of things, maybe you've come across ungovernable misfits and don't understand a lot of what we're talking about because sometimes it's hard for us to pull back to the intro level.  

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It's fucking nonsense.  

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Yeah. It's just a bunch of crazy fucked up nonsense.   They do have a lot of speakers that, you know, will introduce you to new concepts.   Mhmm. But from my vantage point, I'm there to spend time with people. And and you don't have to be in the conference   part listening to the speaker series. Just go right out to the lake. Get them kids together, throw them in the freaking water, toss them off the diving board. You know how kids are. Yeah. You toss them off something. Man, I think I just killed that kid. Nope. They come running back. Do it again. Do it again.   Didn't kill that kid suplexing them off the diving board. Didn't kill him?  

Yet.   Yet. Okay. He he keeps coming back for more. Alright, kid. I don't even know you.   Tell me.   Let's get on with the action news   Bitcoin mining   adjacent   show. Let's do  

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that. Statistics.   Statistics.   I'm gonna tell you the basics for hashing with basics.   We coin mining statistics.  

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Statistics.  

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Real time energy pricing, demand response, and energy cost management.   They're freaking blowing you away. Linkcoin and Load,   they've graduated beyond well beyond Polib mining. Mhmm. They're pioneers   in the Bitcoin mining and energy management   space.   I'm excited about what they're doing.  

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They're like the adults in the room. Fucking a. Well, you nailed it there. It's like you go into, like, a little fucking play area, and there's kids pulling each other's head. I'm running nuts. I wear you, and my big hugs is the best.   The medi just fucking steps in.   Boom. Bang.   Everyone shuts the fuck up.   Yeah. Adults are in the room. Everybody be quiet.   He doesn't even need to say a word.   He doesn't. They just look up at that big fridge. Cold stare. They say, oh, yeah. They   say, oh, ice cold, baby. Mhmm.   No games are being played here. This is a business.  

That is something that I like about them.   Mhmm. They are a business   who operate   like a business.   And when you ask for a thing, they do that thing, and they take your money, and they say thank you,   which is really,   really,   really rare  

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in Bitcoin land. I'm gonna have that that is sage advice. Just operate as a professional business.   Yeah. Maybe we should start doing that.  

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Yeah. I don't know. I'm really trying, mate. Take everyone advice.  

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I'm trying.   You're doing it. You're doing it. We're getting there. We're getting there. Global hash rate global hash rate on a thirty day moving average is 913   exahash.   We're we're kicking it up there.   Seven day moving average is nine thirty nine right now, and one day highs for the past month have been as much as 1,077   exahash. That is a   it's a it's a hash. That was on June 9, but it also dipped down to seven ninety five exahash   on June.   Money pulls a hash rates note I didn't do any of that I just went to stratum.work   by the borst.  

Really cool guy. Stratum.work   has from its original inception to now. Oh, man. These guys put a lot of work into it. God bless all of you people.   You pioneers   of Bitcoin mining that do this extra stuff   for no other reason than the love of the game. Mhmm. I can't imagine how many hours this guy has put into stratum.work.  

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That's really supporting the network.  

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Yes. Yes, man. Yes. I went to stratum.work.   So this was, Block 901502,   and I'm looking for the ant pool family. So I'm looking at all the different Merkle trees and see if they've hashed out to the same thing.   And then I think what you can do on stratum.work is also look where the payout is and see if the payout matches.   But this changes block by block.   So I wanna I wanted to do first, and Borst, maybe you could tell us why this happened. Borst had a tweet, and he said, this is the current Ample family.   And it was this, this, and this, and that. I'm not gonna say it wasn't. And then he deleted the tweet because maybe he made a mistake or maybe somebody complained about it. I'm not a 100% sure. So I don't want to fall into the same trap of looking at stratum.work   and trying to find all these markers and assuming that they're all mining with an pool family or or where the families   are. Mhmm. You know, like for instance, Linkcoin and the Wilson boys   and SBI crypto, that's one block template there.  

And then we talk about the Antpool family and   often Antpool family has been Antpool and Binance   and   often,   but not always,   Luxor or Cloverpool.   And sometimes brains, but not always brains.   But usually Rawpool or Ultimus or Poolin. It it's very weird   how they will jump in and out   in partnership with each other.   So I'm watching block nine zero one five zero two and looking for these markers on there. And you there's a pause button   on stratum. Work, and you can say, oh, okay. All these Merkle trees are are the same or these are Merkle trees or Merkle roots, you know, branches,   whatever. Trees, branches, roots.  

It's very agrarian.   They're all the same, you know, and I just do it the last three digits or he has them organized by color. And then the next block will come and all the templates are different. So it's almost like they, okay. Yep. We hit a block. We're good. We got paid out with you. Now we're gonna jump to our own template. I'd really love somebody to break this down. Let please remind me at some point. I know who will remind me. Barn will.   Mhmm. Or Borst, if you're listening, please remind me of some time to have you on the show and what I would really like to do, you know, what would be fun. Hey. So eventually,   maybe I might get into this live thing and we can do some live mining stuff. And though you're definitely not ready for that, and I'm not ready for that, but maybe here in the next couple months or sometime late this year or next   year, we can have some live   mining stuff   for ungovernable misfits. Mhmm. That'd be good. What I'd like to do is have Borst on there   and say, okay,   let's go ahead and take a look at stratum.work   and let's go through everything that's on there. What's happening? What are we seeing? What does this mean?  

Just like a stratum dot work live workshop. Wouldn't that be fun? It'd be very fun. I think we should do that. Okay. Somebody remind me of this.  

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Barn.  

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Barn. Yeah.   So what I did was I took the whole Antpool family, and if I was right on this particular block   and it's like we can't extrapolate. We can't apply this across the board is what I'm seeing. Antpool family was, like, 315   exahash   of the real time at, like, high nines.   Mhmm. That's wild, man. It's a lot. That's statistics.  

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That's what you get.  

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You know what I also like about our statistics song?   No AI voice.   That's a real human. Mhmm. I like that we do that kind of stuff. Yeah. Sort of. And that was reminded me of us before all the AI stuff. Mhmm. You know, we're, like, asking people, can you sing this?  

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Yeah. That was a hard sell.   Please? Yeah.   I love you.  

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Hash value and hash price. Hash value is 50,029   sats per petahash per day, which will decrease pretty much forever if we don't start transitioning to a better transaction fee environment.   Let's just get right to transaction fee environment. What is it? Abhorrent.   It's abhorrent today.   Last time it was ratchet.   It's not even worth reporting the statistic anymore. I might just take it off. I think the only because you like to hear the new word that I come up with.   Abhorrent.   Abhorrent.  

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But what if things at some stage in life turned around   and then it could change to   pretty great?   Like, wouldn't that be a nice twist to the show?  

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I guess, man. I don't know. This is a probably a whole conversation for another show.   But before all the filter rulers and and this became the hill to die on virtue signals LARP faggotry  

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Mhmm. That it is.  

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Extremely guy. So the difference was all this ordinals and inscriptions   and rooms and this shit, and we covered it extensively back then when it when it all came about. And and we're getting some killer transaction fees as a percentage of block reward. And now that's all died down and and mostly because the trend has died down, not because filters are doing anything special. Yeah. And this is probably out of my wheelhouse.   But will this push people more to out of band transactions, which, of course, we don't get paid for as, you know, on a mining pool? Mhmm. I just feel that the fee market's really going to be weird  

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from here on out. Well yeah. And you can't actually   assess what fees are gonna be for a transaction if you are running that because   you don't get a clear picture of where things are gonna be. So your fee estimation is gonna be out of whack.   Me and Q went into it relatively deeply. It was either last episode or the one before where he was sort of running down some of the more technical stuff. Oh, it must have been the last one. I haven't caught up on that one yet. Basically saying that if you're running this, you can't estimate fees correctly Okay. Because you're not gonna be able to estimate fees correctly. You don't actually achieve anything by doing it.   And, yes, it can just be done out of band anyway if necessary, but they can get it through regardless, and you're still gonna store that data on your node. You just do it after the fact. Yeah. But at least you can't estimate fees per gram. The big goofy ones we've seen  

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when, you know, a lot of these out of band things got started. They're willing to pay, and they're willing to do it. Yeah. But wasn't it nice when that was actually going to people who are mining? It was like a nice little rate. It was. And I remember a couple weeks where it was really shitty and then bam. Mhmm. The runes craze got going or the BRC 20 craze got going or, you know, inscriptions or or whatever. It's like, oh, man. These people are fucking what did we say at that time? Like, dorks or, you know, nerds or whatever the hell I said.   You know, thanks, dorks. Yeah.  



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Appreciate it.  

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Appreciate you. Here's the ungovernable misfits take. The filters, the room description, you're all fucking dorks. Mhmm. You're all fucking nerds. Yeah. You wouldn't make it working on a fucking factory. You wouldn't make it at a blue collar manual labor job. Let me run your fucking dick in the dirt. Put me in my fucking nerd world.   Anyway, I think network difficulty is a 128,000,000,000,000.   Hash price, I actually don't mind this hash price. I have a lot of spreadsheet   stuff for profitability   in my operations.   I'm kinda fine with mid to low $50   a petahash range. Mhmm. I'm pretty profitable there. Okay. That's that's not bad. I have some projections out there for, like, $80, or what if we go to a $120?  

And I look at that and I go, wow. That's really sweet. I hope I get that for a difficulty epoch here and there. That'd be great. But I'm not mad at 55,   $52   per pet ash per day. Okay. And I think most miners probably aren't. Okay. You like that? You like that number? I I mean, I don't mind anymore, so  

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I care slightly.   You'd be back up soon. You reckon? Yes.  

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I do need the heat capture here soon. So Yep. It's cold there in the Shetland Highlands. Yeah.  

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Yeah. It is getting a little bit chilly.   So Oh. Maybe I'll see if I can get some old s nineteens or something like that. Okay. Just just run a few. Alright. You do that.  

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Okay. Let's wrap this up. We've got a long show here to finish up. Nico Smid. Remember Nico Smid? He was a big part of the show for a long time. I pulled a LinkedIn post that he had recently,   and he says, Bitcoin mining's network hash rate in 2025   volatility   with a bullish undercurrent.   Bitcoin network's hash rate has been on a wild ride in 2025,   swinging sharply and setting multiple all time highs.   In early April, hash rate peaked at nine twenty nine,   then came a 12% drop to eight seventeen, the steepest decline of the year and only the third time in Bitcoin's history that it's fallen by over 100 exahash. That's interesting.   A quick rebound followed reaching nine thirty five on May 7, dipping again, and then hitting another record of $9.47   on May 30.  

The June   brought another sharp decline. And as I just   reported earlier, we did jump over an exahash,   and our seven day is at $9.39.   But he says, what's noteworthy?   Each dip has bottomed out at progressively higher levels. Network hash rate alone doesn't tell the full story, as we know here at Ungovernable Misfits Action News. However, if we consider the broader context, this volatility likely reflects structural change rather than just noise.   So the what's noteworthy, each dip has bottomed out at progressively higher levels. That's the end of Nico Smith's part. Then METI comes in and says network hash rate alone doesn't tell the full story. However,   if we consider the broader context,   this volatility this actually just sounds like SolEx. SolEx and METI have now become the same impression.  



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Volatility They are one.  

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Volatility   likely reflects structural change rather than just noise.   Post having economics are pushing less profitable miners offline. Don't we know it? Older hardware is being retired.   New machines are being phased in. And some hash rate is relocating due to regulation or rising costs.   We're also seeing operators adjust their strategies based on market conditions rather than simply maximizing   uptime.   This isn't random volatility.   It is a network in transition.   If you'd like to be guided in the Bitcoin mining world by great minds like Mehdi Nasseri   or Nima Amir   contact them at LincoinMining   on Twitter or hit up nima   @nimzil   or Medi Neceri   to learn more about their ASIC energy and energy plus energy trading packages bundle and save. Max, when we did our longer form, Plebmoner in the wild series, you may remember an interview that we did with our friend, Travis Bittgill.  

Mhmm. Travis has gone from and we'll talk about this in the in the interview when I play it, but gone from small scale heat capture mining   to something much, much greater. And he is developing and moving along, and I just had to get him on again.   So here we have it. Blood Miner in the wild, Travis Bittkel.   Bart.  

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Hi, John.  

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Hi, Travis.   I always think on when I do these interviews, I said, why don't I just call this person on the phone? Why don't we just talk more often on the phone? Man, phone's always on.  

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Yeah. We'll do that. We'll call each other every now and again. I really enjoyed hearing what you've been up to, and I I wanna hear more about it. I wanna hear how it goes. You will. This will be a whole entire  

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Pleb minor episode someday,   but it's too premature   for me to tell the general public the entire story. So it'll either be a finished story of success or failure. You guys will hear it eventually.  

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I think you got, like, 89%   success probability.  

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Thank you, Magic eight Ball. Yeah. I appreciate that. Welcome. Hey. I I wanna do this for you because I know you liked it so much.   This is part two of the Travis Bickle, Blood Miner in the Wild series. The first one was September of twenty twenty three that we had our first interview. Ain't that wild? Yeah. It's almost two years. It doesn't seem like it was that long ago. Yeah.   Right. Time's flying, man. Fucking a. And I said, I opened up with, listen, you fuckers, you screw heads. Here's a man who would not take it anymore. I rewrote a little bit. A man who stood up against the central bankers, the cunts, the dogs of war, the filth that is the global elite,   the shit who scheme to steal our life force and slave us or murder us.  

Here is someone who stood up and took Bitcoin mining into his own hands.   Here is   Travis Bittkel,  

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Blood Miner in the Wild, part two. When you read that the first time, I I was speechless.   I I would do I was flabbergasted. I didn't know what to say.  

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It's great. I think most people don't even know that your nim, Travis Bickle, is a famous movie character.  

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Yeah. That's right. I don't know about De Niro these days, but I I do like that movie. You know? Oh, yeah.   I do like that. Younger De Niro is good. Oh, he was. Raging Bull.  

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Godfather two?   Sure.   Listen. Eventually,   every entertainer,   actor, musician   is gonna disappoint you because they're a woke liberal   demon or even a straight up pedophile,   you know? So you just have to separate the human from the character that they play. Oh, God. Yeah.   Before we start,   why did you choose Travis Pickle as your nim?  

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So this character, he was, like, sick with the establishment. Right?   And I feel like that character was   struggling to understand, couldn't really give an answer why things were so bad or why things were so ugly in the world. Mhmm. He knew something was wrong. You know? So that I think I just could relate to that. You're so different, though. You're a very  

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high functioning human being. I just wanna update everybody on our last episode. Man, did we just go down some rabbit holes? It was really good. It was a really good interview. I'm I'm almost regretting that we're only doing fifteen, twenty minutes because,   I mean, it's obviously you and I can go a couple hours   touching on so many different topics. I mean, we we talked about your original home mining setup, and that was the one where you had these vertically mounted miners and exhausted into your attic.   You were building Loki rigs.  

We talked about just quieting noise with AC Infinity fans.   I think you had some kind of demand response program going on, and maybe you can touch on that with your new project.   Sure. We talked about   Volkswagen diesels and doing veggie oil   and you filtering oil and having an oil mist all over your garage that that your wife couldn't stand and driving around smelling like French fries.   And you and I talked about how where we started from politically as young men and punk rock and how we developed into our viewpoints   today. And we could probably go through all of that again, but this is a   Blood Miner in the wild section. So I wanna talk about two things in particular.  



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Your new builds, the cheese mine and your hot water heater build. So if you could, talk to us about the cheese mine. Alright. The cheese mine when I got back, I was out of town for work for a year. When I got back, I was looking for a place   to get all the miners out of my house because, basically, while I was gone for a year, I had my 200 amp panel in my house maxed out, running about a 160   amps. For that whole time and throughout the whole winter, I had the windows open, and they just ran. And I monitored them remotely, and my dear mother would come over and check on them and, you know, check on the house, make sure everything was fine.   Most people need a dog sitter. You need a a miner sitter. Yeah. Right. And so sometimes I'd have to have her, you know, flip a breaker to do a hard boot or something like that. She actually did install a new board for me that failed. I did have one that went bad for some reason, and I talked her through that via FaceTime to Mhmm. Make that happen.  

But, anyways, I had to get all these machines out. So I was looking for a site, and I was thinking about renting some small commercial space,   looking for a place with three phase power. And, I mean, I was striking out. Even while I was back in Colorado, I flew back one time. There was a a, a paint shop, an industrial paint shop that's actually right in the same suite of buildings where my Fiat employer is. And, talked to him, flew home, brought in a machine to plug it in so they could hear how it sounded.   You know, this paint shop in the winter, I mean, they they have to exhaust so much air and turn so much air over that. They have Just gets cold? Massive.  

A massive gas bill. Right? Mhmm.   And I couldn't convince them that it would make a dent. You know? Gosh. I I just think it it's gonna be pissing in the wind. I just don't think it's gonna be enough. Well They're like, hey. It's a write off. What do we give a shit? Yeah. You just didn't think and then to give up some of their they had three phase power capacity there,   and they you know, it would have been alright. But then the other problem with that was the way that that suite of it used to be, like, some kind of foundry manufacturing   facility   many years ago, and now it's split up into three different owners. My employer being one,   the paint shop being another one, and then there's a small fabricator that's in in another building. And they have so much interconnected   electrical infrastructure that there was no way to divide it and no way to meter each business owner's Yeah. Power. So then they they made a deal, like, through their condo association to split it 45, 45, 10. Interesting.  



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Somebody's getting  

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screwed with the bill there. Yeah. 100%. And then I'm thinking, well, there would be no clean way to   do this. Mhmm. And if my boss found out that the paint shop was just soaking up a 150 kilowatts of power and, you know, and then splitting the bill, that would not be good either. And so that didn't pan out. But let everyone continue to live in ignorance.   Yeah. Bye.   So they were very interested though that the paint shop owner was he had a nephew or something that bought Bitcoin early, and he's basically retired now and very libertarian mindset.   It understands the problems out there and things like that. It just didn't that didn't pan out. So then I mean, it took probably five months to finally locate   the owner of this former cheese plant. I talked to the village administrator in my little town, and he's like, oh, well, this guy Rick here That sounds like a fake title, the village administrator.  

Yeah. You just make that up. No. I I don't know. He's I don't know what you've   I don't know what he does exactly, but he's like he was actually our kid's, soccer coach.   So, like, I knew him, and I thought, well, he probably knows people.   And we went through a couple different folks and then finally landed on this guy, and he turns out he's my neighbor. He lives just down the street.   And he came over, and I showed him what I have in my house. I explained what I'm doing.   And this particular building has actually got problem where it's like a giant old brick cinder block building. It's a 130,   50 years old, something like that.  

Tile floor,   and he's got it divided now. It's, like, maybe seven, eight thousand square feet. It's not huge, but he's got it divided into,   let's say, hobby shop spaces. So there's a guy next to me. He's, like, always working on his trucks. There's another guy who's, like, got his UTVs in there and Okay. You know, it's like a little and then some of it's just cold storage, basically. Sure. But they haven't kept the building heated for twenty years   Mhmm. Or more or something like that. And what we would have in the springtime, it's like a giant, all this thermal mass is like a giant ice block. And you get into the spring,   and the walls would just be Just weeping. Dripping. Yes. Yeah. And really nasty, grungy, moldy, musty Sure.  

Funky   smelling in there. You know?   And right in the center of the building, there's a little well pump room. It's only, like, 10 feet wide.   It's maybe 25 feet deep, but it's right in the center of the building. And, basically,   the deal that we negotiated was, like, I'll just take over the electric bill for this whole building. He showed me the power bills in the last two years. And, like, next to zero, really, like, never more than, like, a $150   on, like, your standard tariff, your standard rates. Right? Well, Was there any heating in there? Did anybody have, like, bring in propane heat or oil heat or something, the guy in in the garage? There are unit heaters in there that are on gas, natural gas. Uh-huh. But they would never run them unless they were there. So it's like, only a partially It's certainly not enough to dry the building out in the springtime. They weren't keeping it warm Yeah. You know, throughout the the winter. So, like, if the guy came in on the weekend, he might turn the heater on in there, but it wasn't enough to  

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thoroughly heat all that thoroughly. Enough to take the edge off for him while he works. Right. Exactly right.  

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And so the main shop space. So what we did is we built a temporary wall. That's the the confinement   wall from hot side, cold side.   And then   there was a a metal roof that was built over the top of the building over a flat rubber roof.   And what we did is basically just like in my garage where I went straight up into the attic space with the heat. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just blowing all that heat up into that false attic, basically. Mhmm. And then from there, what we did is we ran some soft flexible insulated duct into the adjacent spaces.   And the main shop now, this last winter, I mean, it was maintaining 65 degrees   Fahrenheit in there with no other additional heat. Right? So it's basically keeping it warm. The owner was so pleased. He has a little there was, like, an office on the front, and he's got that made into a little apartment now. And so we actually he he came up with all the materials, the duct. We actually ran another   six inch insulated duct over to that apartment. So, like, three out of four other spaces are now   heated basically by this. Right now, I'm at about a 120 kilowatts over there. Okay. That comes out to be, like, what, 300,000   BTUs or something like that or 350,000   BTUs. I don't remember it. Don't have the math right off the top of my head. But, basically, you have heated the whole building   for him, and he's this spring went really well. The one unheated space, the cold storage room, that place is, like, really nasty, moldy. There's an older fellow there, and he's got these really neat old train boards in there that are, like, from the nineteen fifties. They're huge.  

And they're really cool. They look like they were it was really amazing when the thing was all set up and running. Yeah. But But they're junk. They're all moldy. They're they're totally gross. So It's a shame. You know, there's some of these, enthusiasts. They may   take all the tracks off and regrow them and stuff. But Yeah. So then that I've got all the air cooled machines that are blowing into this. Let's I call it the chimney that blows up into this attic.   Then we're taking inducting heat around the building, heating the building. What the owner was like, well and he's been   awesome. He's been very accommodating. He's like, how about well, I'll pour a little cement pad here, right at at your entryway.  

I'm like, great. Well, let's put in some packs. Mhmm. I'll buy the packs, you know, and now I can start playing because I wanted to build some kind of heated driveway or or try that. Way to transition into the hot water heater. You're a pro at this. I don't have to do anything.   Just put myself on mute. Just have you go at it. So we ended up I took a s 19 pro plus, and what I try to do here is marry a hydronic   hot water heating system with a hydrominer.   Mhmm. The s 19 or the amp miner hydros are all three phase. Fortunately, I have three phase power there. And I didn't get this up and running until the very end of winter. And we fortunately got one   small little inch of snow right at the very end there. Yeah. I saw this picture. I stopped in on the way to work, and I'm like, here it is. Alright. Let's see if it works. And that   concrete slab was absolutely bone dry. It works.  

So I'm really excited about that. And that machine is working great. It's it's working fine. But now what I've done with that to dump more BTUs because that is a five kilowatt machine, and that small slab can't absorb Away. Enough. Right? So what I did is I teed into that return line, and then I put a small heat exchanger   dry cooler with a fan on it in the neighboring unheated cold storage space with the train boards. And, now   I'm blowing some heat in there. So now it's it can run a little hotter, but it still needs more BTU sync than what it's got. But I don't really mind where it runs right now. It's running at, like, you know, a 140, 150 tera hash. It's 200 tera hash machine,   and it's at exceeded my efficiency expectations there. It's at, like, 21 and a half, 22 watts tera hash, so I can just let that baby run. That's its specs, isn't it? No.  

What are its stock specs? No. I think it was, like, 25   ish or something like that. 26. That bad was it was that bad? Yeah. So at any rate, that works pretty well. And then the next thing to get to the water heater, so Whatsminer comes out with the m 64, and the the superpower of this machine is that it can run on single phase. So now we have an opportunity That's a long time coming for Hydro. It's great. I can't believe how hot these things run.   It blows me away. I mean, it's just like their air cooled machines run this hot to the chip temp Yeah. That high. This thing makes 80 c water. I mean, that's almost boiling,   and it just shrugs along and is happy as a clam doing that. So what I did with that is, again, try to marry a hydronic   hot water system with one of these single phase machines that make a 170 degree Fahrenheit water, really hot water.  

And what I did is I found an indirect   tank water heater that is like what you would use with any other boiler. Right? So, like, if you had an outdoor wood boiler or you had even a gas boiler or oil boiler, you pipe the hot water from that boiler and it goes around,   it's a jacketed tank, basically. It goes around the water heater for the domestic water side and it's just a big heat exchanger. And then you heat your water. Now the the challenges with that are to, you know, not have a 180 degree water come out at the tap. You know? That sucks. Yeah. I don't wanna burn my kids or anything. Oh, yeah.   So this particular water heater has an aqua stat on it, you know, or a thermostat just like you'd see on any water heater. The nice thing about that is that you can tie that right into your traditional hydronic control systems. The first iteration and I'm still I would say I just about have all the bugs worked out. I'm really pleased with how it's working right now. But the first iteration I tried to use   zone valves. Mhmm. That's always been my thought. Yeah. Right. If the water heater calls for heat, then the zone valve for the loop to the water heater opens. Mhmm. And then I want the machine I want the miner to run full time. I don't want it to be cycling on and off. Absolutely. So what I did was I got these old cast iron radiators. They came out of a church or something. They're cool looking. You love old cast iron shit. Oh, yeah. You bet. So I put that in the garage, and then the way I had initially set it up, and I'll try to describe this without having a picture here, but two zones. The hot water could either go to the water heater or could go out to the   cast iron radiator in the garage.  

And what I found was   that the switching mechanism for the zone valves and the controller   and the valves that I bought, they're kinda slow opening.   So what would happen when the water heater would call for hot water, the zone valve to the radiator would close, but then it would take about thirty, forty seconds for the zone valve to the water heater to open. Okay. And so now you have a an instance here where the pump is just deadheading and flow stops.   Oh.   Then the zone valve opens and the water around the the water heater is a 120 degrees or a 110 degrees.   And the system water   is at a 170 degrees, and now it's even risen a little bit more because   flow stopped for thirty seconds. Just for that period of time. Wow. And then we'd have, let's say, a 50 degree cold slug of water come back and hit the miner,   and it didn't like that. It would it would just shut down or not always, but sometimes it would just throw a code. There would be an error. Would sometimes it would reboot. It just wasn't happy in that configuration.  

So   I changed the configuration   so that there's a primary and a secondary loop and with two pumps now.   And so right now, the the main primary loop just pumps out to the radiator in the garage that always just stays on. Okay. And then on the supply side, the hot side from the the minor, cut a t in with another pump,   and then that routes to the water heater and then back   into that supply side just downstream   short ways.   And   the controller now, when the aqua stack calls for water, it turns on that secondary pump and it pumps back into the primary loop   hot side. And what this allows to happen is the   water goes back out out of that cold slug of water, then mixes throughout the whole loop and the radiator and comes back, and then that it doesn't shock the minor or shock the boiler, let's say. Is this always closed, or do you have street side water coming in and cooling things down occasionally, and then do you dump it all?  

No. Okay. Well, I mean, like, I'm happy to turn the hot water on now everywhere Yeah. Whenever I want. Right? The radiator in the garage just it's warm in there. I'll say that. Oh, sure. You know, get more you know? Yeah. I I put a fan on it to kinda help a little bit. The miner's running in low power mode. So it's almost July. So right now, I I do still occasionally   get an error that pops up, but it doesn't stop the miner. No. Okay. So I I think I can still, make this run even a little better with a buffer tank. So just adding some more Yeah. Just adding another heat sink. Right. You know, or even some volume. So before the radiator in the garage, when this cold slug of water comes,   I could put a buffer tank in there where it it's basically   mixing into a larger volume of water and then that that shock when that whatever. Few gallons of cold water get dumped in won't make it all the way back, and I can leave the the minor run. So right now, it works pretty good. I've got it divided.  

My water hot water system, domestic hot water in the house is in kind of two zones or two, like, I call it headers or means.   One side of the house is the kitchen sink, and that's the furthest away from my or traditional it's just an instantaneous water heater, but it's way on the other side of the house. Mhmm. So there's a kitchen sink, the dishwasher,   the washing machine, the laundry, and then the there's a downstairs bathroom that's all on that one header on the one side of the house. So I I just cut in a valve there, and I separated the two systems. So I really have two water heaters right now. And, actually, while my wife's gone out of town, I want to   open that valve and then try to, you know, run that hot water the other way   and see see how it does on the other side of the house. But right now, it's working great. The miner stays running. The other thing that I did is I put this tank right directly under my kitchen sink because previously,   it would be, like, a minute and a half to almost two minutes before you got hot water at the kitchen. Oh, I I had the same thing. I I put in the instantaneous hot water heater underneath the sink. Yeah. Man, that made all the difference. Really obnoxious to stand there and wait for a little hot water. So now I've got hot water almost immediately. And then the other thing to, let's say, bang this up and to the next level   is I'm gonna put a recirculation   pump off of that tank water heater.  

Mhmm. And then   tie into way at the end of that header at the downstairs bathroom, and then run a PEX line, half inch PEX line back to a small recirculation pump that will pump back into the domestic hot water cold side Okay. And recirculate   that and keep that whole main hot. So then even at that bathroom way on the other end, you'll have hot water, you know, in a few seconds versus thirty seconds now. Yeah. I I know people that do the same thing with their wood boilers. Just run that quote through the wood boiler and then just have that recirc pump on. So I pleased with how it's working. You know, I probably had about, like, $5 into the whole thing. You know? Yeah. Sure. You know, let's just say, you know, I don't else would you do with all your money? Yeah.   I I would say that previously, my hot water   cost with my gas instantaneous   heater was, like, let's just say it's a dollar a day. Right? Mhmm. Well, now with my rate structure and that, I I probably   that machine is probably bringing in, like, $9 a day in Bitcoin.  

Yeah. And it my electric cost is probably $5 a day for it, something like that.   So then if you count that dollar that I was spending before, that's maybe a $5 spread per day. So, like,   if you take $5 a day that the thing is stacking back for me, maybe two years are always something like that. I don't know what the let's see. Your $5, it'd be a thousand days. Right? So that'd be, like, three and a half. Oh, you don't you you know this game. Don't fool yourself with no ROI. Yeah.   Well You've been you've been in it long enough. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm not I don't I don't care. I'm not retiring early with this thing.  

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I feel like back in the day, that was stuff that we used to get wrapped up in, and now it's like, this is how I live my life. This is what I do. So Yeah. Fuck off. I mean, about your ROI questions, how much money I make. This this is what I do. It's my thing. That's right. So I'm I'm over it. I'm just worried about the engineering side of things.   That financial   shit. Fuck it. Alright. Let's wrap it up. We got two questions here. I brought it up to our group.   Ask Travis anything you want. First one, Crazy Carl from Carl's Corner. Crazy Carl asks, I'm wondering how much Travis has to make adjustments as the seasons change and how the difficulty adjustment   affects  

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how he's running the mind. We're talking cheese mine here? I guess he's probably talking cheese mine alone. Yeah. So it does make a difference. Right? So I started   in fall,   and we just started pumping air up into the  

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Oh, Max is gonna say foul. Foul.   Autumn,   mate. Autumn.  

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I got the, Midwest thing bad, man. I know I know I do. I know I get   nothing's worse though when I when I meet somebody and they look at me and they cock their head and they say, where are you from, Minnesota? I'm like,  

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ugh.   Motherfucker.   We're dancing.  

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But we we started in or I started in fall, and I was able to just blow air up into that attic. And it was working fine. And then the door on that space, I just cut in some louvers, louvered vents. And Okay. And that worked that worked fine in winter. When it was extremely cold, I almost was choking that off a little bit, and there's a hatchway that gets up gets you up into that attic. And so what I was able to do there is just crack that hatch open so I'd have a little recirc. Right? So a little hot air hot air recirc. Okay. And I leave that split open a little bit. That's very similar for me with my Second Floor heating system. When that attic is too cold, I just got a little tiny recirc going on. Yep.   But now,   since it's been getting warmer, now I have this challenge of, you know, trying to stay cool in the summer, and I haven't had to do that yet. So, actually, my grandpa's old farm, my uncle owns it now, I found on the old snowmobile shop, used to be an Arctic Cat dealer. In the seventies and early eighties, my dad was in there always, you know, working on snowmobiles till three in the morning.  

But there was a exhaust vent in there, and it's just a two foot vent. So I cut that in, and I my uncle gave it to me, and I was able to cut it in up on the gable   of the attic so that that's sucking a little more hair out. The other thing I did is I welded up a a screen door basically with expanded metal and angle iron and made the yeah. Oh, that's right. That looks really nice. That's a nice screen door you have in there. And it kinda helps the security also for that space too. That's like a heavy duty door now.  

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Yeah. I saw that picture. I was like, oh, that's awesome. Thank you.  

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Well, now and I didn't really have any filters   on the inlets. You know, it was like, I never in overwinter, you don't have bugs or problem. Well Yeah. I let it go for a couple of days, and now the cottonwood seeds have started flying. And it turns out there's some in the neighborhood there. So, I was very disappointed to discover,   you know,   all the machines basically clogged and full of bugs. So Yeah. I just, bought a roll of furnace filter media, basically, and I was able to just roll that right over that door. And it seems like it's working really good. And just after I can't believe how much stuff is stuck to it. It's kind of like a bug black hole. Like, oh, there's all kinds of bugs, like, stuck to it. Who said the miners are bad for the environment? You're cleaning the air. That's right.   So that the main thing just, right now and we're running cool. We're running alright. The added fan and the the screen door really really made a big difference just to keep the air moving. So even though the air is warmer, I think it's just, you know, keeping that flow going.  



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It's the main thing. So Our buddy, Hubert Hottle, was talking about the Canadian fires and and the,   the smoke and and such. So maybe we'll have a a cool summer, and you won't have to do too many more changes. Alright. Last question is from   Bern Miner, our little goat boy buddy.   He says, since Travis bullied me into not   being a heat reused LARP, when is he coming to help me trench 100 feet of return line and bury a heat loop?  

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Fuck him.  

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I did not There you go. That's the best answer.   The the you know what? We we got we got nowhere else to go besides that. I I'd I'd like to end every interview  

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with a fuck you, barn miner. Well, so okay. I'll just tell you. He's I I said, yeah. Why don't you you know, all the cool kids will think you're awesome if you set up a a minor water heater. You know?   And he's been,   he's been trying to come up with some strategy for it. He's gonna do things a little differently than what I'm doing. He was trying to figure out, like, how to keep the miner, like, right next to the water here, which would make sense. It's kinda like what I did. But then he's got some kind of rate. You know, I don't wanna, like I don't think you care about it. I think he talks about it. Yeah. Yeah. He's got some kind of different rate between the barn and the house. And I'm like,   why Yes. Too? Why don't you put your miner with the miners where the rate's lowest and just pump water? You can get  

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Oh, it's probably something about not pissing his wife off or something. Who knows with him? No. He's like, oh, yeah.  

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That's a great idea. They're like,  

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I can't believe that. That's you're a genius. And I'm like, well, I don't know. I Dude, I never thought I never thought of that, dude. Let's fucking put it in the barn, dude.  

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So, like, a 100 feet of PEX is, you know, $60   versus,   Right. You know, or the a long wire or running on the higher rate. Running the lower rate, man. You know? He likes struggle.  

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He has to have something to bitch about. It's not you. It's him. So I I got a little kick out of that. So I'm I'm happy. I'm happy he's doing it, and, he'll get it. Well, I'll help him. You know? He will. Yeah. He'll be alright. He's gotta act like he's struggling. He'll be just fine. Big boy. Worry about him. He is.   Alright, Travis. Thank you so much for being a a pleb monitor in the wild once again. My pleasure. I think everyone will enjoy this this ketchup talk. Good. I hope so. I will direct them to, our original recording September of twenty twenty three if they wanna   know a little bit more about you. Super.  

Alright, brother. Talk to you later. Thanks, John. Bye.  

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Great to have him back on. Oh, yeah. What a guy. That's proper building. You talk for a little bit. I'm eating some barn jerky.  

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I swear to god. I'm just talking about barns. I was like, oh, I'm hungry. Talking of barn, what an amazing answer. Fuck that guy. Fuck you, barn. No.  

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That's how I start my day every day.   One thing I didn't quite understand was he's getting all this heat into this building that was sort of, like, rotting away and had a load of problems because it wasn't heated. Mhmm. Was that where he found his discount or had some sort of agreement? I sort of Yeah. I was making a coffee maker. I missed that part. But was there some sort of agreement with the owner of that property that it's like, look. You pay me a bit for the heat? Travis pays the electric bill. Yeah. But he gets to house his mind as somewhere. Yeah. And he gets access to three phase power.  

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Okay. Important for his hydro builds, especially.   Mhmm. And sorry. I I chose the hot jerky version, so give me a second.  

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Fuck it, Al. We are professionals.  

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Very professional.   That's a great jerky commercial. I like things like that. So he gets access to a special rates as well. Okay. The industrial rates. So he gets better rates.   He pays their electric. They get heat. Symbiotic relationship. Yeah. It's something I've had many conversations with people over the years. There was one time I was working with a real estate guy to try to find an on grid site. I remember that. Yeah. Remember him. And I kept telling him that. I was like, that company that he worked for has, like, all the real estate in Western Pennsylvania, all the industrial and commercial real estate. They're the biggest one by far. Nobody's even close to them. And I was like, how many empty fucking warehouses and office spaces are you guys heating? And he's like, oh, yeah, man. That's a great idea. I'm bringing that up to the president.   You know, nothing. People don't have the balls to do this stuff, but Travis found some weirdo.  

Mhmm. This is just as weird as him, and he said, okay. Do it. I love it. It's such a massive opportunity  

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in so many places. Like, we talk about this. Well, we used to talk about   this a lot. I'm very, very, very, very happy that we've got this back. Like I know you are. Yeah. I'm really happy. I think it's, like, one of the best decisions we've made in a long time is to bring this bit back because I'm listening to that, and I'm, like, making my coffee, and I'm excited again. Every time we have these, I'm, like, excited again because   it's innovative.   It's actual engineering.   Yeah. That's an interesting part. And every time I hear these type of stories, I'm like, yeah. There are so many opportunities,   whether it's heating these empty buildings that otherwise are gonna have a load of problems, whether it's small businesses who are already writing off their electricity bills, having a couple of minors in there, just not enough to really have any questions there, but they get a bit of heat and they also get some sats and they're writing off these energy bills anyway. So it's like, effectively, they're paying zero other than what they're paying for the machines.  

And if they're buying these older machines, then they could do really nicely from it. And, like, how many of these garages and workshops and places Mhmm. I've worked in some fucking cold, miserable,   horrible,   wet, damp, fucking   shit house places   where your hands are cold and you're wet,   and you just can't wait until you can get into your van and just have a little bit of warmth from the heat blower just to warm up a little bit. And you think, actually,   you could have that in the workshop   and you could make some money too. Yeah. Because most guys in the wintertime, like I had said in the interview, they're just heating up enough to take the edge off Yeah. So your hands don't hurt. Yeah. You know, just slightly above freezing. That's all anybody really cares about. Yeah. When you're working with metal Oh, fuck. You said it. Yep. Yeah. I just saps the heat out of your hands. Working with steel all day with what I was doing, it was like you needed gloves off. It's like, oh, well, wear gloves because you've, like, cut yourself all the time. It's a sharp sharp. Hear you. But you can't actually fucking do what you need to do with gloves. So you work without gloves,   your hands get sliced to pieces,   and then they're freezing, and you can't feel them.  

And everything hurts,   and it's just fucking miserable. And you just think, yeah, there's no need for that because actually there's this solution, which is   earn some SATs right off the fucking energy bill. Not that this is tax advice, but definitely do it. And then   be warm and happy and joyful and support the network and be really decentralized   and all that stuff.  

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I think people that want to do this, you have to be aware. There are great heating solutions out there that you'll have to compete with. Mhmm. You'll have to speak with the landowner, property owner, garage owner, and weigh this with them because it does make sense if waste oil heat didn't exist. I mean, a lot of garages just use waste oil heat. They they have the waste oil. They can't freaking recycle it. Nobody will take 50 gallon drums of waste oil. I know because I have nine of them. I don't have to pay somebody. It's great on bonfires. It's fucking excellent to start bonfires.   Yeah. It certainly is. But I, like, I already have that for my my home oil changes. I just mix in a little bit of kerosene and and flare and A diesel? Yeah. Or diesel. Oh, so nice. So you you have to understand a lot of garages use waste oil heaters. A lot of people around here have wood stoves, outdoor wood burners Mhmm. Which I'd love to have an outdoor wood burner.  

This has always been my dream. Sorry to get off track.   Outdoor wood burner, Bitcoin mining, hydronic heat   that I choose between those two. Yeah. And then even a third option where I can still use my gas wood boiler and just have this all figured out and engineered and I go from this to this to this depending on the prices of stuff and   Mhmm. That's my dream also. So anyways, you're gonna have to say, well, I I got an outdoor wood burner and my brother works for a, you know, a landscaping company.   I've got infinite wood. Sorry, buddy. I Bitcoin mining thing doesn't make sense to me. I just wanna wanna say that it's like, yeah, this makes sense to us because we're in this world, but you get these other people that use waste oil or outer wood burner, and then this is silly to them. Mhmm. You just have have to have those objections.  

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But it worked in this case.  

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It did. That and that's awesome.  

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Yeah. I really like that. And then the   hydronic   stuff   Mhmm. Was it mentioned there about heating driveways and Yeah. He's got a little,  

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concrete pad that was poured outside in front of the door. Mhmm. And he's like, hey. Throw some PEX in there. And he piped that PEX in there, and it melts snow. They got one last snow. It melts snow. And, he was able to melt it, handle it. Yeah.   Very cool. I want to mention so,   we'll link the previous   interview,   and then you guys can get an understanding of   somebody   starting as a pleb miner and becoming a Bitcoin mining pioneer through hard work and ingenuity.   He also wrote an article for us on this is when the Loki and Yord boards were coming out. He wrote an article for us on how to hook up the Loki   board to mine on a 120 volts. So Travis Bickle has been contributing to Ungovernable Misfits for a very long time.  

Back when we first interviewed Zach Baumsta and Travis,   the Loki stuff was just starting   out. And somebody that we know and love and appreciate, Avril from altertech.io,   has really taken the Loki stuff and just made it a big part of his business, and, we certainly appreciate him for that.   Innovative.   Altertech.   Io is innovative.   That's certainly all. Yeah. He doesn't stop there. So you have a lot of these minor dealers that's like, oh, I do bidaxes,   or I sell this thing. To think that he does bidaxes, yeah, that's cool. He does sells the gecko science stuff, the nerd ax, the nerd miner stuff, builds custom Loki rigs, gives you the kits so you can build your own custom Loki rig. It may be out of a miner that you have lying around.   Goes   from small to large. He'll order you as many machines as you want, ship them off to you, not just a miner gear salesman, but an engineer,   a fabric cobbler,   a fellow weirdo,   not just a pleb miner. Started out with all of us pleb mining, an old school Bitcoiner been around a long time, a lot longer than you guys realize. Avril has been around. But, also, as the intellectual Silk Road boys are plugging, and we're gonna talk about here in a little bit, he's a Bitcoin mining pioneer. Altertech.io.  

Use promo code   Ungovernable.   You want a bit ax, Matt?   Max? Matt. Matt. How long have we fucking  

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worked together for Three years. Your name is Matt now. Outrageous.  

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Absolutely outrageous.   My friend, Matt.  

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I think   you'll be able to get if you have a referral code with Foundation,   you are soon   to be able to order a bit access and anything else you want from Altair.  

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They're gonna build it into their, referral program. Very cool. Yeah. Well, I I hope this doesn't take away from promo code ungovernable because because we get paid for that.   Well, it will.   Goddamn it. I'd mention it on your other fucking show then. Yeah. It will. But it's it's alright. We share the love.   We do share the love. We appreciate however you are visiting our sponsors. If you want to visit altertech.i0   through passports,   little program, foundationdevices.xyzedzed.   Go ahead.   I'm gonna start saying zed from now on because you're saying z. I gotta balance out the universe. It's like a trans movement.   Yes. It's just like a trans movement.  

So, you know, everybody teases me, including our Batman here about BitX. I'm just sick of it. You know, we talked about it when up the first second it was being developed. We talked about it. Problem is that everybody's talking about it,   and Yeah. The Travis Bittkels of the world   aren't being heard from.   They're not the feature now. Mhmm. It's this project.   Yeah. And that's great. Listen. If you wanna spend, you know, a $139,   $300   at altertech.i0   and buy a bid ax and run it. And use the code ungovernable.   Of course, you're gonna do that. You'd be a fool not to. Don't you wanna save money? Be an absolute cunt not to. And support me and Matt? Do you know how many people don't do that, though? What? Call you Matt?  



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Well, no. No one calls me Matt. It's it's only you. Just me. How many people message me and, like, oh, yeah. I've just bought a passport or I've just gone to Altera. I've done whatever. And I'm like, oh, cool. Did you use the code? They're like, what code? Fucking morons. I don't know. Just the code that we use in every single fucking episode ever, you absolute cunt.   Oh, no. I didn't use it, but don't worry. I'm not worried about the discount. I'm like, well, you fucking should be because mining's hard, and it supports us. So you double should be, triple should be. Alright? Don't ever forget it again. Ungovernable.  

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I I have something to admit. I've I've put more jerky in my mouth, and I'm eating it. I can hear that. I'm not shy about it.  

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It sounds like a German porn film.  

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I'm not try about it. Eating with the jerky.  

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Gobble. Gobble.   Back on my carnivore. As of today, I had a day off. I actually had a weekend off from it. Whole weekend.   Uh-oh. Yeah. We had, like, a little mini date half afternoon,   which was, like, the first one in, like, years. FFC has entered the chat.   Yeah. Oh, do you know what? It wasn't too bad, but it's just like I had a couple of meals which had, like, a bit of carb with them, and I had a few drinks. Didn't go too crazy. Alright. Just, you know, little bit of something. Okay. Back on today.   It's dull. I'd like some jerky. I am ready to talk again.  



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Oh, good.   You sure? No. I closed the bag. I put it away from me. That way this this wouldn't happen again.   I don't wanna deprive you. It's not like we're recording or anything. No. No. It's fine. We can finish the rest of the show. No problem at all. Okay. That's good of you. Thank you. Okay. Anyway, I think there's a better place to spend your money.   The word on the street is you're decentralizing.   You're not that silly   and childish.   That you're making a dent in anything that somehow everybody's gonna run these devices, which freaking break all the time. Mhmm. Get somebody, like, runs it for a little bit. Oh, the power supply wasn't right. Oh, the chip didn't have enough thermal paste on it. I had to take it off there and put another heat sink and different thermal paste, and I'm tinkering. And great. That's what you want. Great. Great. Great. Why don't you like bid access, man? You're a jerk. Let's do whatever the fuck you wanna do.   Okay?  

But I like   pleb   mining developing into a pioneer miner a lot better than tinker toys.   Mhmm.   That's the show you're listening to. Yeah. That's who we are and who we've been for this long time, and this is the show you're listening to. If you wanna listen to a hobbyist tinker toy show, there's probably plenty of them out there. Mhmm. If you wanna larp, if you wanna virtue signal, if you wanna play pretend,   go ahead and listen to another show. If you wanna dose a reality, tune into this one and listen to the past shows. If you wanna hear pain, if you wanna hear people who have suffered   and fucked up and lost money and got back up again and succeeded, then you listen to this show. If you want something that's just fucked up enough and full of pain and misery,  

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come to Ungovernable Misfits.  

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Greaser, please clip that and make a fancy video out of it of gold.   You know he will. Yeah. He will.  

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No. It's true. We were talking the other day. I'm never sure what I can say and what I can't, but all of this, pioneer versus plat and everything. And Mhmm.   A lot of the people that were   the plebs are now the pioneers   and you should want better for yourself. There's nothing wrong with running a bit tax, but it's like, okay. You've done that bit now. Nothing wrong. Don't buy another 50 bit taxes and have them all on your wall blinking and show videos of that. Like, let's do better and believe in ourselves so that we can actually do something that's   proactive and productive and,   you know, follow the lead of people that you hear about on this show. You know, listen to what Travis has just done and be like, okay. Maybe I can do something cool as well. Mhmm. Want better for yourself? Yeah.  



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Go big or go home. Yeah. Well, that's a cool thing to do. That's a learning tool where you're probably getting about a half hours worth of Bitcoin mining learning. You're done now. Turned it on. You look for an IP address.   You logged into it. Mhmm.   You pointed it somewhere. Mhmm.   And you watch it overheat.   Yeah. You're done now. So you you're done your learning tool thing.   What about he you know, you can put in a a little water loop, and you can immerse it, and there's other things to go. That is cool. It is cool. I want one of those, actually. That's the only cool thing. Alright. You do that.   I have a suggestion of 21   projects. I got 21 projects,   but a bid ax ain't one. List of 21 projects that are similar in price to buying   a a bid ax or a nerd ax or a fancy bid ax or a bid ax gamma or supra or whatever.  

21 projects. We are going to go over each one of these projects   over the next year and a half.   It'll take that long. Mhmm. I'll do a a little bit more of a deep dive on our mesh to Dell show for each one of these projects because they are all very mesh to Dell related.   So here we go. I'm gonna list them off. The flipper zero. You're familiar with this device?  

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The flipper zero. I actually   went out for lunch a while ago with, a friend of the show that I won't name, and they had one.   And it was quite funny. They were just, like, opening the Tesla charging port Mhmm. Jamming people's phones in the restaurants so they couldn't take calls, and   pages wouldn't load, and fucking around with opening doors that they shouldn't and things. I was like, this is quite cool. Quite fun. Yeah. That's cyberpunk shit right there. Have you seen one? Yeah. I I got a good buddy that has one, and he's always fucking with Tesla,  

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charging door,   Charging ports. I was gonna I was gonna say gas.  

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Yeah. But you know what I mean. You can't get into the Tesla, but you can just open the port. I think there are other vehicles where maybe you can do other stuff. It's a great tool for being an asshole. Yes. Disruptor. Yeah. You wanna disrupt the system? Here you go. It won't turn you into an asshole, but it's like a great extension. If you already are one,   it gives you extra abilities.  

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I have become super asshole.   Like the flipper zero. Go buy one. Look around. Yeah. That cool. Become an asshole. Mhmm. Become ungovernable.   Yes. The mesh tastic. We've gone over the mesh tastic a little bit,   and, we've got experts in the mesh to that are very, very deep into the mesh tastic   thing, but that's a off grid mesh network for communications.   Very, very cool. So we'll do a a specific   segment on the meshtastic   and maybe even bring in some meshtastic people to   briefly talk about it. This next one is a suggestion that you made that you thought this was a good idea, a cheap three d printer. This list, I'll get a list of three d printers. We can talk to Black Coffee or Mopar and have them get a list of three d printers for us that are cheap and plebby and some good suggestions because they know what works and doesn't work.  

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Yeah. I think it's a cool like, if you are gonna spend that kind of money, $2,300,   this is something that I've always toyed with the idea of doing, and the only reason I haven't is just time.   Mhmm. It's just like, I wanna be able to nerd out and really get to grips with the thing, and that's just gonna be a problem for the moment. But if I was gonna go and spend some money, this would be at the top of my list because even if it's just for home where it's like, oh, I need this little thing which I don't have the right size for or, like, I need a part or   whatever it is, that's really useful. And then it would pay for itself   relatively quickly, I I feel. I believe so. Yeah. I've always thought so. And then the other thing is if suddenly we have a load of problems with supply chains and the world gets a bit fucked up, it's like, oh, I need a part. I was like, okay. Good luck.  

You're gonna need to make that.   So, yeah, just, like, already knowing how to use something like this, I think is really, really useful. I just don't know how hard it it. It seems like it's not that hard because I know some proper fucking mongs that use them.   But then Yeah. I don't know. Like, is it hard to get good at? Is it like   okay. You could print, like, a coffee coaster   of, like, okay quality,   but you couldn't print some other useful shit because that's harder, and you've gotta, like, know how to use different software or I don't know. Like, I don't know how how hard it is. I don't know either, and I never got into it.  

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But I do think it's a better use of your money than than buying a BitX. Oh, gotcha.   Next up on the list, I've got a a DIY automation starter kit   with an an Arduino unit. I'd like to have somebody write us an article about this. You know, who was really big on this   was, Tensai Bankai.   I don't know if if he he ever really automated a lot of his chicken stuff, but he was talking about Arduinos and and Yeah. And stuff with Raspberry Pi and automation   and,   his chicken stuff. Let's catch up with him sometime Yeah. Definitely.   And see if, he can help us figure some of that out or anybody listening. If you have DIY automation stuff, you've got a hydroponic   garden that's all watered and fertilized and monitored with this Arduino stuff or raspi or I know there's plenty of people in the pleb mining world, these pioneers   Mhmm. That are, scaling miners up and down with some of this home automation stuff. I know Schnitzel's a a real whiz Mhmm. At home automation and whatnot. So if we can even get a hold of him. You know who else is? Who? Q got really into it. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. He's got some, like, open source thing where it's like he's not leaking all of his data, and he's   worked out how to put sensors in to turn off the lights because his kids Oh, it was like home security, wasn't it? Yeah. And, like, all that kind of stuff. So he's also into it. Mhmm. Alright. Well, I think we'll find some folks Yeah. That will be able to contribute something to us about home automation starter kit, but it's not that expensive Mhmm. From my preliminary research.  

I was looking somewhere in the mid $300   for that stuff. Another one that you liked was the BeeLink mini PC.  

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That's just utilitarian right there. Yeah. Just having home server is really fucking useful and being able to tinker. Like, there's so much stuff that you can start to build out where you own your own infrastructure.   I think Mhmm. You're gonna learn a lot more   spending a weekend fucking around with that than you are with Vax. Totally agree on that one. Here's one.  

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This is the hack RF one.   So this   is maybe a signal jammer   kind of thing Mhmm. That can at least analyze the different radio waves that are coming into your sphere and possibly block them. Okay. That could be very useful here in the future as   a drone warfare gets more advanced.   Speaking of drones,   buy a drone.   I think that's a pretty decent purchase and and very utilitarian and I'm not just talking about flying it over to   be a peeping Tom in your neighbor's windows there's a lot of utility to a drone   practical utility security security You've got a little farm. You can go and check on your animals out on the farm. Mhmm. This is something that I've wanted to do. So I have security cameras at my my mining site, but I wondered   I'll have to ask Aaron Bifrost. Bifrost is big in drones as as we know when they when they were sponsored before they stabbed us in the back and abandoned us,   kicked us in the balls. Dude, why'd you say that, man? You know I didn't mean   I'll have to ask Aaron   about   this because I think he told me one time, okay. Line of sight drones is fine. If you can see the thing, you can do it. If you can't see it, that's a whole another licensing thing, and it's not approved by the FAA, and there's all kinds of stuff about it. But I'd love to have a drone   that was at a remote site, and I can trigger it, and I can go ahead and look around the thing. How's this piece of equipment doing? Okay. Let me zoom in on that. Alright. Everything looks good. Go ahead and go home to your dock. Mhmm. I'd like to know about that. Somebody teach me. Yeah. I'd like general security as well. Almost like Mhmm. If you could have them as kind of guard dogs. Mhmm. As in if someone  

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goes over the perimeter   of your   land,   then these things will pop up and fly close to them and film them. You are being recorded, blah blah blah. It's like most thieves, unless they're really motivated, will be like, oh, fuck this. Like, let's let's go.  

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Yeah. Next thing. If you don't own a gun, and you can own a gun, I'm sure even you gay little Canadians and all of your rules, I think you could still have some kind of 22. I think you still have some kinda hunting rifle or shotgun or something like that. You can you can have some gay little Canadian version of a gun. If you don't have any guns, you're a bozo, but you should at least have a handgun,   shotgun,   and a rifle of some sort.   Now you can go to Rural King, for instance. That's the store close to me that has the cheapest stuff. But if you go to Sportsman's Warehouse or you've got a online   dealership, you know, Buds guns or or something like that where you can access cheap   guns, just get you some kind of gun right now. Go and get a 22   rifle.  

You can get one with, like, a 10 round magazine. Go plinking with your kids. There's a much better use of your money, especially if you don't have a gun right now. Rural King, for instance, has this little stupid   six shooter 22   for, like, a 100 and something bucks. Go and buy that. Go and buy that toy.   But over time, you should at least in your home have a handgun, a shotgun, and a rifle   over going and buying a BitX. That brings up the next thing, ammo.   I have ammo seek on my phone, and it pings me when there's local deals in my area for ammo.   And they go on a stock up on 9 mil   or $2.02 3 or 22 or 45   ACP because that's the the weaponry that I have, and and I stockpile that. $100 here, $50 there, $200 if it's a really good deal.  

Keep that on your list of things to buy. And this is getting very meshed to deli, and so we're we're gonna we're gonna swing through the rest of these. Water filtration.   You can get really good water filtration   for the price of a BitX or two. Trapping and snare kits. Now I don't know if you're into trapping. I'm not into trapping, but these things are relatively cheap. And it shit hits the fan situation. You think you're going out hunting all the time. You're probably not, but you can set up some traps on, trails that you can obviously see and get some small game to eat. That's a a much better thing to have on hand.   You're contributing far more to   freedom, sovereignty, decentralization,   all that stuff if you can go and snare an animal and kill it and eat it. Speaking of eating   chicken eggs, go ahead and listen to our cluck off episode.  

That's a no brainer. Have some chickens. They're cheap.   Also,   you can, get a rabbit hutch. Maybe you can do some kind of permaculture operation where your, rabbit shit goes into your chickens, and they dig through it and fly larva and all that stuff.   Rabbits,   and breeding supplies. And you can go back and listen to our episode with Carl, our numerous episodes with Carl where he talks about his rabbits. And reach out to Carl on Nostr.   The fucking guy loves Nostr more than anything in this world, I think. That in the, Blood Miner Mafia jukebox. Ask Carl about breeding rabbits.   He eats a lot of rabbit.  

We've talked about this on Messerdell shows in the past, a   ham radio kit. Get your ham radio license. Ham radio kit. Much better use. If you don't have a generator,   backup power of some sort, a little camping generator, one of the little small Honda ones, I I think are great. We used to have them at work until everybody fucking stole them. It was a bad idea   to buy at work because those disappeared   very quickly. No. I did not steal one. But you can get 1,800 watt   gas generator from Harbor Freight   for I think it's, like, around $300.   If you're buying bed access and you don't have a little tiny home generator at least, you're dope. You're bozo. Speaking on power generation,   you can get a, marine battery,   some solar panels, and a charge controller from Harbor Freight, and you can start off with, like, a 100 watts total, all the stuff, and build on as time goes on. $400.  

This is one that you liked and said that Ben talked about this a lot. A first aid kit. Yeah. That's one that I actually  

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know   in the back of my head again that I should really get and learn how to use properly, especially with kids and everything else. It's just like I haven't got around to doing it. Because   if something really bad happened, I'd be like, oh, fuck. I actually don't even know how to use this kit if I have one. Most of the time, I try and fix everything with duct tape. Mhmm.   Oh, slice my hand open. Oh, okay. Duct tape. Yeah. I'm I'm a big electrical tape guy, but same same concept. Yeah. You know, you you can think about all this stuff of, like, oh, I can improve my life, like, half a percent here and half a percent there, or I can be slightly more sovereign here or there. Okay. Now slice your arm open and see how long you're gonna live.   How sovereign you are. Yeah. See how sovereign you are now. Let's see how long you actually survive in like a really dangerous situation where   the world does go to shit. You keep saying it's gonna go to shit and everything is gonna go bad and like you've got all the guns and you've got all this stuff and it's like cut yourself, fall over, break your leg. Injuries that could kill you within a day or two. There's loads of them.  

So Ben had gone on some course to, like, work out how to actually keep yourself alive if you, you know, need, like, stitches or stuff you can, like, do that kind of stuff yourself.  

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Pretty useful stuff. And I know I should do it. I just haven't yet. Get on it. Yes. Turn your bed axe off and get on this. So a list of books. You have the first aid kit. That's great. In the first aid kit, I've got a first aid kit, a tourniquet,   some quick clot. You know, you sprinkle on there, and it'll clot. Burn pads, antiseptic wipes, ace bandages,   a thermometer. I guess that's important. But little things like Benadryl, bee sting kit, norepinephrine,   you know, that put in your leg and it, reduces the the allergic reaction   to things. Rescue mask. I put ivermectin on here. I put amoxicillin   on there. These are all things that that you should have on hand. But how to use them? So not just the first aid kit, but a library, a survival guide library.  

Where is the doctor? It was a good one that I looked up. The survival medicine handbook, the encyclopedia of country living, which I I have that one. And you can get survival database stuff and just throw it on a a thumb drive. Plug it into that bead link that you bought and look it up. There was a guy on Twitter, and I'll have to find him. Maybe Joel on Tap Growth knows who this guy is. I can't remember. I think it was, like, something Hulk, like, Bitcoin Hulk.   But he had   cataloged a huge number of, online database for this kind of stuff.   Should have that on hand.  

Absolutely.   More important   for freedom and sovereignty   to have these things on hand. An AI server.   So you had Urban Hacker on and, Gabrielle from the Escape the Technocracy,   and they were talking about running your own   AI instance at home. I think that's a worthwhile build. We'll have to see if Urban Hacker has an official guide for that. Do you do you know if he does, Max? I don't know if he has. I assume he would do. He's that type of guy. I assume he would do. Yeah.   No problem. Yep. That's the same accent.  

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You've lost your impressions now. I have.  

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I've spent too much time by myself.  

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Yeah. I think it's the lack of sleep and work. It just gets you, and eventually, you just have one and this Ukrainian. That's where it ends. Something suffers. Yeah.  

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Self hosting your own stuff. I think that's a really cheap build on a Lenovo laptop, Mac top mini. You can get these things used   pretty easily, pretty decent price. Hard drives are cheap. Hey. Everybody filters. Hard drives are cheap. Okay? They're cheap.   Come the fuck on. Get over yourself. What about people in third world? They're cheap. They're pretty fucking cheap, dude.   They're cheap.   Maybe build your own Bitcoin solo mining node. And last but not least, since this is a, a mining show,   an electrician's toolkit,   you ought to have tools to work on electrical stuff because electrical,   that's how it it's all delivered. It's all about electrons. You gotta deliver electrons from a to b, and there's equipment and wire and breakers and switches and boxes to do this, and you need the tools to interact with that stuff.  

Also, a good multimeter. I still haven't mailed the winner of the multimeter away, but it is boxed up, and I threw in a mesh economy box because I felt bad because it took me so long to mail that off. But you gotta have a multimeter.   Clamp on multimeter is good to have. An Ethernet crimper. I like the crimper   that when you put your wires in the RJ 45 connector, it cuts them off. You used to have to put this in, like, a little black slide and and align everything up perfectly and then put it through, and then it would cut all the ends off. But I got this new crimper in these new ends that   as it goes through, it just cuts the edge of the RJ 45   connector off. Get one of those crimpers. It's really slick. And and the RJ 45 ends. Yeah. Do that.  

Toolkit,   and the Ugly's, lecture reference manual. Everybody should have one of those on hand. And that's it.   That's it. That's my list of 21 things that are   that are more important to have for freedom and sovereignty  

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and decentralization and a BitX. I like it. And there's people in all of those different categories within the mesh to dole. You could ask. Ben is really into   keeping yourself alive stuff and also flying drones. He's got loads of drones and shit that he likes to fuck around with. So you can ask him. You've got Urban in there for all the, like, techy stuff, and there's just we got we got everyone. If you're not already in the mesh to Dell and you're not a cunt, then reach out and let us know, and we'll we'll get you in there. Joel messaged me yesterday. I was like, you you in the mesh to Dell signal group? I was like, yeah. I'm in there, but I I don't I just don't check signal very often. He's like, you you should go in and check things out. Me and Ben are causing a ruckus. Oh, are they? They're both ruckus makers. They're so similar, those two. They really are. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.   It's funny.  

Really fucking annoying,   but smart.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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But you you you get that kind of quality conversation   within the mesh. I I won't be checking it out, but can you give me, like, a synopsis of what the band is? No. I don't. It was father's day stuff. It's like as soon as I got done talking to Joel, I go, my dinner was done. Okay.   Girls and Sarah made me dinner last night. Very nice. Spaghetti and a meatball with a blueberry pie at the end. Oh, well, we were on vacation. This show's gone too long, and I gotta go. We went to this fancy restaurant, fancy Italian restaurant that we've been going to for years, and it was terrible. And the meatballs tasted like dog food. And so we were so desperate to come home with our homegrown   grass fed beef   meatballs that Sarah makes, and she makes them so quickly and and effortlessly. Like, it's no big deal. Sarah has reached peak womanhood   to where she doesn't need any recipes. She can do all the stuff where their eyes closed. I mean, that that's just for her. I think that's always been a dream of hers to be the lady to say, hey. Can you write down that recipe? Oh, I don't know. You just You just do it.  



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Kind of thing. You just do it. Yeah. Where this mentorship comes in, though. It's not just fathers teaching sons how to do an oil change or whatever. You've got to also have the moms teaching this stuff. That's like peak level. There's no question about it, man. You know, we need to stop being such a boys' club. I don't know. Sometimes we need some,  

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I mean, it is fun. As long as we have girls in our boys' club who can who can match our energy girls in our boys' club. We just not got that many. No. We don't have them, but they were there. It's true. I just don't think that, generally, it's that interesting to listen to us, to call everyone cunts and  

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say how many guns you need and ammo you need and, like, how everyone's pussies. And it's probably   That one we slut Pretty much. I guess. Like, man the fuck up. You're such a pussy.   Inject some trenin into your eyes. Get some get some testosterone. Where's your t levels at, you little bitch?   Like, oh, I'm not sure this is really my show. Hash sluts.   Mhmm. Gagging on me. Alright. Well, you show them porn. You say it that way.   But we have some great ladies who love all that. So they're they're involved, and they're very much part of it. So thank you for listening.   If you're new here they make a great ammeter ball.  

If you're new here, tell all your girlfriends.  

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Get them to join. There you go. I like it. Okay.   I think we're done, aren't we? Alright. Well, we gotta we gotta end the show. We are done. Just wanna play this, and then we'll talk for two minutes about it. Okay. Okay.  

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The word pleb has been used far too long to denigrate individuals using Bitcoin.   The origin of the word came from Rome to refer to the common people or lower social class.   It was a term that continued to be used in Europe to refer to the non nobility.   The plebs or plebeians were not land owners.   In modern slang, it refers to people who follow the crowd,   outsourcing all their thinking to the experts.   While the term has been affectionately   adopted by many individuals   interested in Bitcoin as a way to signify that they were not bought by PodConth,   it does not accurately   describe who we are. The forty hour per week podcast listener   has been at the tip of the spear, adopting this new technology.  

We are builders who took tremendous risks to lay the foundation on which the future will be built on.   The early pioneers in the American West were individuals who either left Europe or were ancestors of those who left Europe in order to settle the frontier.   Many were slaughtered in the process. The ones that survived were the toughest, most determined individuals   who were too stubborn to die. Let me ask you, are you a pleb or are you a pioneer?   For years, we have waded into the unknown,   experimenting with new wallets that have no documentation,   deploying miners in ways that no one had ever done before. We have dived into command lines,   installed alternative operating systems,   and been at the forefront of going into the wilderness to settle it. Some of us have lost more Bitcoin than we even own today.  

We have blazed trails and through self custody,   have staked our claim on the Bitcoin blockchain itself,   a claim that we can pass down to our descendants.   Most of us have suffered in order to create a better future for our children.   The pioneers who settled the West embarked on journeys of adventure and danger because they were not satisfied with their lot in life.   The modern orange pilled pioneers have done the same. We have faced being socially ostracized,   labeled as fanatics.   Some have even attempted to mock and ridicule us.   We chose to continue forward because we had conviction,   not only in Bitcoin as a technology,   but in our own capabilities   as individuals   to think.  

Going against the grain of society   is either a mark of bravery or insanity.   What distinguishes the two is the outcome.   We were not insane,   but we were   right.   We are not a lower class.   So let me ask you again, are you a pleb or are you a pioneer?  

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Well, what are you? Neither. You're an ungovernable misfit.  

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I'm a cunt,   an ungovernable,   unyielding   cunt.   Well said.   No. They're right. They are right. I think some of us   have moved on from pleb status. And we talked about this a while ago about changing the show name, and I wasn't happy with the word pleb because I just kept sit   what I started to see was it was like first, it was like   plebs and it was fun and it's like we're taking on the banks and we're kind of like   Yeah. We're called scum. So we'll sort of adopt that and like embrace it. It's like the, you know, and then the psychopath and we adopted that too. Yeah. And then it was like,   I started   not seeing that anymore, and it was like, oh, yeah. We're pleb. We're so pleb. And it was always just like   country sales tactic   y bullshit,   like, people who were the least pleby,   least   real individuals   adopting that name   to act as if they were, and then it lost its charm for me a while ago. So I'm I'm very much on board with this.  



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Well, I don't know. I'm on board. I meant to call Greaser after this Mhmm. And talk to him. Because he's like, I wanna I wanna hear your thoughts, and   I'll talk to him before this airs so he'll know my thoughts.   I thought about it in a sense of the biker gang.   You know, when you're in an initiate,   you're a pledge, you're a pleb,   Same thing. Mhmm. You're starting out. Your ideals are pointed in a certain direction, but as time goes on, you develop.   So perhaps your top rocker says pleb minor.   But then as time goes on and you're really in, you've earned that pioneer   rocker on the bottom, and you've earned that 1% patch.  



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That makes sense. You come in as a player. And, also, I don't   want   the fakey, cuntty, salesy bullshit   people   to win and take   that   word completely.   Mhmm. Because there is still definitely an element of, like, pleb and spit and sawdust and, like   Yeah. Yeah. Call us call us fucking crazy conspiracy theorist,   retards, and plebs, and cunts, and whatever else you can throw at us because we love it because we're gonna use that.   I think you I think you're right. It's like you do then   move on. And at some point, you sort of look and you go, no.   We pioneered some stuff.  



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Yeah. Should always strive for pioneer, but you'll always keep that pleb with you.   You know, I don't know if we're in for a complete rebrand, but   that's what I think, Greaser.   I think, Max, you stated your opinion. Mhmm.   We get it. Mhmm. We get it for sure.  

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Very good.   Well,   that's it, buddy. I hope you enjoy munching on your meat.   I'm gonna kinda take a piss and,   do some stuff.  

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Okay. Alright, mate. We're gonna we're gonna play it out with the song of the ungovernable misfit.   See you later, buddy.  

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I light my cigarette   and take a good long   puff.   I live with no regrets.   I've heard quite enough.   They whisper their lies,   yet still I'm immune.   Pain will make you wise.   I have nothing left to lose.   I'm the man they   warned you about,   the one that gives them fear.   I have no room   for doubt,   my direction   crystal clear.   I'll burn it all to the ground   before I will ever   submit.   Can you hear the sound   of the song of the ungovernable   misfit?   Doing what it takes to be great.   I'm the man they   warned you about,   the one that gives them fear.   I have no room   for doubt,   my direction   crystal   I don't care what the masses think. They don't have the capacity   to use their brains.  

They drown their sorrows in distractions and drink.   Pumping garbage through their veins.   They look at me and judge maladjusted,   unhappy and unfulfilled.   I will stand my ground and refuse to budge as I wait for it to break so I can rebuild.   I'm the man they   warned you about,   the one that gives them fear.   I have no room   for doubt,   my direction   crystal clear.   I'll burn it all to the ground   before I will ever   submit.   Can you you hear the sound of the song of the undover noble misfit?