Ungovernable Misfits

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 What does this episode’s P.M.M. stand for?

•  Purebred Managed Mooing
•  Professional Maple-syrup Manufacturing
•  P2P Mesh Messaging
•  Psychological Mouse Metropolis
•  Positive Masculinity Mindset
•  Positive Meaningful Motivation

On one hand we have “HATE” tattooed on our knuckles, a clenched fist ready to strike back against globalist slavery. One the other fist “LOVE”, a fist that opens and a hand that extends to yours in peace and cooperation. And then there are those that simply want to rock, with “OZZY” tattooed on both knuckles.



I this episode of P.M.M. we review recent developments within the Meshtadel. Meshtadelians are experimenting with SuperTestNet’s bitpac, musing over creating repositories, and NOSTR relays with the funds.



Long time Meshtadelian Untapped Growth stopped by to explain his herdshares program and update the group on his citadel operations in Oklahoma. He spoke about Collaborative, Cooperative, and Communal relationship models and the middle ground between communal communities and those that are a loose collective of rugged individualists. He shared his strategy in breeding the perfect regenerative agriculture cattle and shared why it would be advantageous for people to purchase his herdshares.



Jon shared the story of his first cow, “Cow SoulEx” that he purchased from Lindley Beef.
*No, they don’t take Bitcoin, listen, I tried, but it just wasn’t taking hold.



Breaker Breaker One-Niner!!! What are your plans if there is a communications outage? We discuss tips to prepare for communication breakdowns by diversifying your communication methods: maintain a landline, exploring radio options like FRS and ham radios, and utilizing different cellular networks to ensure redundancy. Perhaps establish a personal network for emergencies. Have a family backup plan and a mustering point. We cover solutions like Meshtastic that offer decentralized, off-grid communications through low-cost, license-free mesh networks.



We discuss the demoralization of young men who are so demoralized that they’ve gotten vasectomies. Masculinity and traditional family structures are under threat. Society is reflecting behaviors that mirror the outcomes of the Mouse Utopia experiment. Young men, if you’re reading this, don’t cut your balls off and become a “Beautiful One”.



We rap about the concept of the Pendulum Swing and discuss the extremes of political ideologies and societal beliefs. Don’t let social engineering push you to the fringes, maintain a grounded perspective amidst these oscillations of the pendulum.



Charles Myriel presents some solutions to the directed demoralization of our society. Make genuine connections and nurture REAL relationships, build supportive communities for the purposes of personal and collective resilience. Charles advises introspection, mutual growth, and the creation of micro-communities as essential strategies to counter societal challenges and to foster healthier, more conscious pleb communities.



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(00:00:00) Love the Plebs ❤️, Hate the Globalists 🖕

(00:01:46) What’s New in the Meshtadel?

(00:07:18) Dielectric Cooling Fluid: Seed Oil, Tallow, Maple Syrup?

(00:09:07) 🎉 Get Your Baaarnjerky! 🎉

(00:09:47) BOOSTS ⚡️

(00:11:36) Expatriotic says Boost! Or ELSE!

(00:14:45) Do you want to be a Meshtadelian?

(00:17:36) Round Em UP!

(00:19:48) Recultivating Community

(00:24:20) Communalism/Individualism: Where’s the Middle Ground?

(00:26:38) Cooperative, Collaborative & Communal

(00:30:16) What's Good for the Macro is Good for the Micro 👍

(00:33:14) Check Out More About Herdshares and Untapped Growth 👇

(00:36:59) Jon's Cow Story 🐄 : The Search 🔍for SoulEx

(00:47:22) 🛑 Stop, Drop, and BOOST 🛑

(00:47:33) Communication Breakdown

(00:50:17) Breaker Breaker One-Niner

(00:51:31) Get Prepared for Anything 💪 with BIFROST MFG

(00:54:28) Young Men Demoralized 🫃

(00:57:25) Are We Living in Mouse 🐭 Utopia?

(01:00:39) Watch Out for the Pendulum Swing!

(01:05:45) ⭐️ Look to the Sky! That is ALTAIR ⭐️

(01:08:48) Healing the Spirit and Irregular Warfare

(01:11:47) Goodbye 👋 with a Little Help from Our Friends

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For your safety.   Big pharma,   big banks,   income tax,   VAT.  

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The Illuminati Elite, Cultural Marxism,   Critical Theory.   You are nothing.   You are nothing to me.   You're a useless   fucking cunt.   You are nothing to me.   You know what, Max? PMM isn't about hate. Although we hate the globalists, we love everyone else. Right? It's about love, man.   Peace and love. Peace and love. Love always wins, doesn't it? It does in the end. Mhmm. Mhmm. Even though you can write l o v e on one fist on your knuckles and hate on the other, I would have Ozzy, o z z y, on both knuckles. Okay. What would I choose? Random. Welcome to ungovernable misfits   PMM   episode 2. How are you, Max, bit buy bit? I never ask how you are. How are you feeling?  



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Glowing.  

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Are you pregnant?  

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Maybe.  

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Max, you're glowing.  

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4 cafetierres down. Just recorded with you for 3 hours.   So  

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feeling pretty good, mate. Wasn't 3 hours. It was 2 and a half. Stop being so dramatic.   How about you? Are you glowing? I'm doing really well. I'm I too am glowing.   Perhaps I'm with child.   The emoji tells me that's possible. It is. Anything is possible these days. Yeah. We're getting demoralized   from every which direction. Even our emojis are trying to steal our masculinity.   Mhmm. That is the topic that we will be speaking upon later on in the show. But before we do that, I wanna give you a little update on what's been happening in the mesh channel since you are far too busy to check-in on that, that group. You know, what's funny when you do check-in on that group, everybody is like super excited to see that you're in there. No. They're not. They're, like, chatting it up. Oh, Max is here. Max is here. Oh my god. I'm gonna spend more time in there, mate. You know this. It's coming. It's happening. Guilt trip complete.  

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I know. I know. I miss it. There's so much interesting shit in there all the time. I do pop my head in. I do read while taking a shit or when I have a little minute in   traffic or these little moments. I'll check-in, and there's always something interesting. But you can fill me in  

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and give me the lowdown. I will fill you in. The last mesh they'll recall that we had on the 8th, the 8th one, 8th every time, 20 UTC,   20 100 UTC   on the 8th. You got it? No.   No. One more time. One more time? The 8th of every month at 20:00   UTC,   we have a meshtadel call. The last time we had that call, we talked about the meshtadel bitpack. The meshtadel bitpack is a   multisig wallet, essentially. It has a little bit of a voting mechanism to decide what the members of the Bitpack want to do with said   SATs in there. Okay. The discussion that they had, they came with the they determined that with the current Bitpack that they had and the money in there, they're gonna pay somebody to do a noster relay for the mesh to Dell. So that individual is currently working on all the mechanics of the noster relay, and soon, if not already, we have a Nostr Relay. Okay. What are you gonna do with that? What are you   gonna do with that? I don't know. Computer stuff. Relay Nostr.  



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Yeah. We're going to relay some nostrs.  

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I don't know.   We'll let we'll let you know when it comes out to all the members of the mesh Jodel who want to use the meshtadel relay.   Additionally, one of the suggestions that was brought up was paying for AI tools, like somebody to host a computer and different AI tools that we can all log into. So if we want to see a picture of George Washington, it actually shows a picture of George Washington. I know a few people in the mesh to that might be able to host something like that. No. We we already got somebody. Oh, okay. I believe we probably will. We can we can have a mesh to that hosted thing. Let all the network guys get into that. Mhmm. We also want to possibly host some servers for a repository.   Nice. All the data you can possibly think of, permaculture,   sovereignty,   cows,   bitcoin shit, mechanics,   parts breakdown for your tractor. Oh, I see. If you can't find a ticket apart, you can contact Bifrost Manufacturing.  

All kinds of different stuff. Perhaps we can, host different files. Maybe we can get some of our 3 d printing people or, like I said, Bifrost   put up some of the files that they work on in the repository. So that that's a possible use for the meshtadel put up some of the files that they work on in the repository. So that that's a possible use for the meshtadel bitpack. I like it. There already is kind of a library of resources that everybody has been using. One of our listeners and who I met in Nashville, really cool dude, unit of account, has a, a repo on Telegram with lots of different documentation,   but we wanted to do something a little bit beyond that. Mhmm. Another suggestion within the mesh to del has been and I think, linkinparkrulz brought this up to me, and he's like, we need a meshtadel but we wanted to do something a little bit beyond that. Mhmm. Another suggestion within the meshtadel has been and I think, linkinparkrulz brought this up to me, and he's like, we need a meshtadel but we wanted to do something a little bit beyond that. Mhmm. Another suggestion within the mesh to del has been and I think, linkinparkrulz brought this up to me, and he's like, we need a meshtadel directory.  

You know, like, what everybody does and then who they are. And I said, well, I don't know. For for privacy purposes, that might be a little bit difficult.   Pretty much my brain is the directory   Yeah. Right now. But there was an organization. I'm not gonna say who the organization is, and they had sort of like a,   I don't know, like a pleb LinkedIn kind of thing Mhmm. Where you could list who you were, the what skills that that you were proficient at, possibly where you were. It's not quite this orange pill app. It's not quite LinkedIn. It's a little more private, But I think some people should start spinning their wheels on that idea. We talked about this years ago,  

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talking about, like, when we first started the meshtadel, we're like, oh, it'd be cool if we had a site, and then like a meshtadel would grow. You'd have these different, like, nodes on the network, network, which were the people   as well as the places.   So you'd have a place, and then from that node, you'd see, like, spokes coming off that, and that would show you the people.   And then you could click on that person, and then that would show you what their skills are, links to website,   how they're involved in the mesh to Dell so that you could then search and find people who would be able to be useful in a project doing, like Bifrost manufacturing if you're gonna manufacture something, for example. But we came to the same snagging issue, which was   privacy   and getting everyone to pull their data in there   so that it was searchable.  

But in theory, if there is a way around it   to make sure that people are protected, it would be really useful, especially for people who are coming in because not everyone has your Rolodex   in their head where they just, like,   can make these links with, this person would be really helpful. If we put these 2 people together, they could make something incredible. This person needs help with this, and they can help, but, also, they can reciprocate with this because they want me or they want such and such. And I think it would be cool to have a place where someone can search like that. So any developments in that would be, be awesome. Yeah. Like I said, there there was one. I'm not sure sure if SolEx was involved in that or what I can say about it. I know that I remember the name of the app, and I do remember filling out the information.  

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But, of course, like a lot of projects, nothing ever happened with it. Yes. Maybe somebody can, carry on that torch. Mhmm. We have a lot of new members of the mesh todell, so it's been a little bit difficult keeping track of everything. But for some reason, there's an unusual number of mesh jadellians in there now that make, maple syrup.   That's kinda cool.   Kinda hungry right now. We've been recording all morning, and I haven't eaten. Maple syrup gang.   Things can get a bit sticky. It is tasty.  

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Being an American, do you ever put maple syrup on your bacon? Is that a thing that you do? I'm not a Canadian.   You sick motherfucker. Oh, it's Canadian thing? Yeah. Well, when I went to America, they were all doing it. Yeah. Sure. Just copying off the Canadians.   Yeah. It's like pancakes with, like, bacon and maple syrup. I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah. I think a lot of Americans do that. Okay. Hell, I think McDonald's had some kind of  

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maple bacon   sausage   Mc something. McMonster.   I don't know. I don't eat that shit. McDiabetes.  

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Yeah.  

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What else interesting in the meshtadel? Oh, Karl.   I said we should change his name change the name to this program to, like,   Let's Talk About Karl. Mhmm. Have a section. Yeah.   That's guaranteed. The guy's doing something all the time. Now this crazy SOB has dunked a single board, I believe it's an s 9 board, into seed oil, canola oil. So there is a use use case for seed oil? There is a use case for seed oil, and and Karl has found it. He's not a seed oil disrespector?   I think he's disrespecting   it by putting electronic equipment inside of it. Yeah. There's certainly a little bit of disrespect there. Mhmm. Urban hacker said in the meshtadel that tallow is next. That'd be more be more Meshtadellian.   Yeah. He dunked a machine in tallow. I like it. I don't know about the, electrical conductive properties of Talo. Who does? We'll find out. Well, yeah. Give it time.  

And last on the the little list of updates for the meshtadel nd last on the the little list of updates for the meshtadel barn jerky.   Old barnminer. He's in the meshtadel too. Got it everywhere.   Has his latest batch of jerky out, which I'm sure by the time this episode airs, it will be completely sold out. But I have some, and it's delicious. And he left a nice little note for for my family.   That's sweet. Sweetheart. Can we know what it said, or is it, like, really personal? No. I I think I put it on the internets. I don't know where the note is right now. Basically, love you guys. It says love,   Barnminer,   at the end. Oh. And there's a few a's in there.  

Extra   a's.   Yeah. Uh-oh.   We've got a little problem here. Mhmm. Ah, here we go. We are good.   Alright. We're ready to read some fountain boosts. Thank you all for supporting all of our shows with Podcasting 2.0.   I should stop calling them fountain boosts because they come from all over the place. Mhmm. And Max, you are first up on the boosts.  

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Late stage huddle.   55,555   sats.   It's our biggest booster.   2 shows,   question mark, exclamation mark.   Y'all are killing it or killing me. I've got a boost twice now. It's our plan all along.   Just kidding. You guys are great. Keep up the good work.   Or else,   I like the threat at the end. Yeah. That was nice, isn't it? That's good. Because it's like, it's real push and pull kind of technique   there. 2 shows, you're killing it,   and then it's a little backhanded slap or killing me. I've got a boost twice now, and then just kidding. You guys are great. Keep up the good work. And then a threat. I have a feeling late stage hodl is a hit with the ladies.  

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Or or I think he's also schizophrenic.  

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They go hand in hand. Yeah. I think so.   wilfreddallyn.   wilfreddallyn   . 50,000   sats.   Found the old Pleb miner month episodes   recently. They were amazing.   Thank you, mate. Oh, yeah. I don't know if that means that, like, the old ones were amazing, but we've really fallen off. Or whether he just meant I would say that's exactly what that means. Yeah. That that's how I read it. But thank you anyway. Like, at least we did something good once. We can hang on to that. wilfreddallynThank you, mate. Oh, yeah. I don't know if that means that, like, the old ones were amazing, but we've really fallen off. Or whether he just meant I would say that's exactly what that means. Yeah. That that's how I read it. But thank you anyway. Like, at least we did something good once. We can hang on to that. wilfreddallyn, 50,000 sets. You guys used to be good. Thank you, mate. Next up is exPatriotic with 27,600  

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sats. Whoo. Oh, I put all the sats numbers in here. Don't read them anymore. We're done   with that shit. Okay. 50,000, that was the boost. Although 27,600   is a pretty good amount of sats. Yeah. Thank you, man. He boosted this from Podverse.   Never contributed to Max's pod, you dirty bastard. Try the 276   challenge.   Take Max's total number of episodes to date,   276,  

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and multiply it by a number of your choice. Don't be a cheap cunt. Oh, thank you very much. That's good advice. What do you what do you do with that number, though? You Just write it down. You write it down, and then then  

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you're missing the point here. You boost it.   Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. You boost that amount. Boost it. Something above 21.   Another exPatriotic boost from Podverse. Best pod in the potiverse.   See what it did there? Yeah, I like it. Fuckers.   I love everybody leaves a fuckers too. Yeah. I like a fuckers.   greginlapwoi   No words. No words. Well, we have some words from X Patriot. No words. They were.   Screwed yourself, greginlapwoi. Full words.   It's probably, not lapwoi either. You know? Altair Mhmm. Told us that we're saying Altair wrong. Yeah. Is it lapwoi? It sounds good. It sounds gay. You always have that extra, like, lapwoi.  

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You know what I mean? Someone else might go Lapoi,   but not not you, not me. Lapuais.  

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Lapuais.   Greg and Lapuais.   Expatriotic   PSA,   Stop being a pussy and send Max some sats to keep him out of the poor house. Yeah, good luck. He's basically a homeless at this point. True.   Can   confirm. Spending all his money on podcasting equipment and beach vacations.   Oh, I nailed you. Just a few thousand sats an episode, you cheap cunt. 50 to 100 sats per minute or a boostagram.   Don't like lightning? Send to his paynym. Max,   buy bit, fuckers.   Ask Linkinparkrulz for help if you need it. Thanks. Thanks exPatriotic.  

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Actually, a few people have been sending some boosts to, my paynym, which is cool. That's my favorite type of boost, if I'm honest. The only thing is you can't get the messages, which is a real letdown.   So maybe it's not my favorite.   It's the coolest. I feel cool when I get them. I don't I don't get any.  

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Thanks, everybody.   I never posted my Paynym. It's like weathered thunder something something.  

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I wonder why you've never had anyone send anything to it then. Because I've never said what it is. Yeah. Like, you expect people to just fucking guess.  

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I don't know. I'm ungovernable.  

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Ape Mithrandir.   7 oh, we're not doing the numbers. Begins with a 7 though.   Love the new format.   Looking forward to more PMM   pods. Thanks, Ape Mithrandir..   Jose s Balm.   Love it. Keep up on being ungovernable.   Duo twenties.  

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Great. I think he's talking about me there. Yeah. Probably. That that's my buddy, so he's probably talking about me. Oh, okay.  

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John, is this you? Yes. That's me. Go ahead, Reese. It's you, person. Oh, okay. John, if anyone would like to join the   contact Max,   SolEx, or myself, and we'll get you in there.   Communing and connecting with fellow plebs is where it's at. And then a nice little handshake. I dropped that in there as a reminder to myself that,  

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hey. If you're listening to this and you aren't part of the meshtadel,   what are you doing? Yeah. Get on in there. If you'd like to be. That's invite only. So we have to know that you want to be in there. Mhmm. Unless you're country and then just don't reach out. Nah. No, thanks.   Next up is SolEx.   Best fitting sponsors ever. Such services would be I can't do a you do a SolEx, it's a lot of rolling.  

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You you nailed the services.  

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Services.   So much rolling.   He says best fitting sponsors ever. Such services will be essential on the satcular   plebconomy. Blah blah. Heart.   Fire. Somebody anonymous send us 1,000 sets. Thank you, Anon.   Feral hippie. No. I listened to this after hearing the interview on the Watchmen privacy podcast. I appreciate the joking and practical advice.   I've never heard any jokes on the show, but whatever. No. I will be boosting more once I fill up my wallet. Just have to take care of a couple things on the home front first. Now I'm putting another episode on while working on my chicken coop. I hope the chicken coop went well, and you should be able to put chicks in there soon depending on where you live. Has, feral hippie joined you? Has joined the mestradel? I'm not sure.  

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Well, feral hippie, if you haven't joined the meshtadel, it sounds like you'd be very welcome. Anyone with a chicken coop is welcome. Yeah.  

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Gets you an automatic. Oh, yeah.   MCOT says cheers   and clinky glass. Thank you, MCOT. Believe m MCOT just recently joined the mesh del or the pleb minor mafia. Maybe both. Nicki Jean, thumbs up. Feral hippie.   Did something. I don't know. Didn't write it down. Nostra gang, until next time, retards.  

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Retards? It's fuckers. Get it right, Nostr gang. Yeah. Come on. Let's do better. Also, that's derogatory.  

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You don't like that. Agree. Even though Satoshi said it. And Emcott again with another cheers. And you got the last one, Max. Pies.  

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Yo.   Exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark, ex   I have a feeling he's doing pull ups while he's writing this. Yeah. And then he does   just like 90 fucking pull ups one handed.   Mushroom, mushroom, mushroom, mushroom,   mushroom, mushroom,  

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We had a special meshtadel  call on 21st.   If you remember,   you guys, SolEx, initially made everything 821.   8 for infinity, 21 for, I don't know, something to do with Bitcoin or or rather, we had a special mesh to that call.   Something about scarcity. I don't know.   With a special mesh todell call, I really had to rally the troops for this one. Untapped Growth,   who started out with mesh old episodes   a long time ago, is finally to the point where he's, like, mass   marketing his herd shares program. He posted a document up into the mesh to do, and a lot of people had questions about the document. How does herd shares work? What do I do this? What if I wanna count right now? How much does it cost? And I said, that's a lot of questions. I think that would do well in a call.   So we all had a Zoom call. I do a Zoom call for something like this so people can post up things. I know it's super fiat, and I don't use key. Io, and I'm not using Nostrnest.  

Sorry. Zoom works. Joel was able to share his screen and show us his Excel spreadsheet, go over everything.   Anyway, sorry for the rant.   We had a Seems like that You took that really personally that someone called you out. Personally. Yes. Because I I pay for the Zoom subscription. That way, we can record it. You know, I can do this out of the goodness of my heart, then everybody gives me a hard time about not using Keat. John What? We all love you. Don't Yeah. I don't want you to feel like that. It's obviously really upset you. Just can I rewrite it?  

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You certainly have your flaws, but  

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we care. Alright? Inevitably, I'm telling you every time I put a Zoom link up, people are like, why don't you just keep?  

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And you're like, why don't you just fuck off? Why don't you do it? Yeah. Right.   So every single time as well, it's like it's like, oh, what you should do is do such and such and so and so, and this is better because of this and this and this, and you go, okay. Do you wanna do it? And it's either yes, and then fuck all happens. Yep. Or well, no. But, I mean, you you could do it.  

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And most of the time, it's crickets.  

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Oh, I didn't check on the group for another 2 weeks. Yeah. Don't whinge unless you're gonna fucking better it. There you go. Stop whinging. Yeah. Because you'll upset John, and that upsets me. Don't fuck with him. Alright?  

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That's my girl. That's yeah. That's a fucking weird job. Yeah. Nobody fucks with me more than you. Let's see if I can rile John up today. Just say globalists.  

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Hollywood pedophiles.  

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Hollywood pedophiles.   In this special untapped growth, meshtadel , we reviewed his documentation for his herd shares program. He went goes over in this in this document. And if you want this document, I would reach out to untapped growth and request it. We will not be putting it in the show notes. That's his proprietary thing. We won't be posting this recording.   Anything   beyond just these clips I've made, you'll have to reach out to untapped growth and and see if that's alright if you get a hold of of the recording. We only recorded long enough for him to talk about the program and and his motivations behind it, the the story behind it, the journey that he's been on. We had some open q and a, and then we closed the recording and got more personal as we do on the meshtadel. Mhmm. So if you want to hear conversations like this and be a part of them, join the mesh to Dell. If you'd like the documentation, reach out to Joel. I'm gonna give you a quick synopsis of what we talked about and play a couple clips, but there really was a lot of information that that went through there. So if you are interested after this, just reach out to Joel. I believe it's just at untappedgrowth Mhmm. On on the tweeters.   He went over ultra high density grazing,   mob grazing, rotational grazing. This is the first time I've heard this, ultra high density grazing.  

Mob grazing was the term that I've always known. Regenerative agriculture and the genetics that he's looking for for these cows. Some of the things we discussed were, initially, like, the loss of communal working spirit in society.   We just don't do that anymore. Is it and I'm not too sure it's because we're also disconnected from each other. Everyone's out for themselves.   Yeah. For sure. But I don't know how your neighborhood growing up was. Mine wasn't like this because I I grew up in Florida, and everybody was, like, a old person, a retiree.   But Sarah talks about this a lot. Like, they used to have block parties on her block. She lived in just an inner city neighborhood in in western Pennsylvania, but, you know, everybody knew each other. Everybody   walked around the neighborhood. They had block parties ever so often, games for the kids, people playing music, everybody communally making food. We try to do that here in in my neighborhood to a degree. Do you? We'll have big big get togethers and and all the kids playing in the yard and playing basketball out here and and cookouts. Yeah. We we try to bring that that kind of stuff back. I imagine you also have your own militia I don't? Considered. But mutual security is is something that me and and other men from the neighborhood have have spoken about. And I think it it wouldn't take very much to organize   some sort of neighborhood watch tour if shit ever hit the fan. We we've all talked about it Mhmm. Put it that way. And we're all well armed, So don't come round here.  



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Well, I don't get invited, so I wouldn't You talked about We have none of that here. Yeah. None. Tell me about that. As a general rule,   you most people don't speak to their neighbors at all, other than,   I don't know, like, oh, your fence is falling down. Can you fix it? I've looked on my plans, and it's your responsibility.   So can you do it, please? Or, like, I'm cutting down this tree, but it overhangs your property. Can I just make sure that I have your consent?   It'd be that kind of stuff. There's not, like,   any sort   of neighborhood spirit in any of the places I've lived at all. Just a bunch of Karens?  



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Yeah. I mean,  

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it it could just be me. Like, maybe people can't be bothered to speak to me or, or whatever, and maybe it's partly me who can't be bothered to speak to them. But I don't really know anyone who has, like, close ties with their neighbors   and is, like,   friendly,  

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really. That's that's depressing. Yeah. I know. You know, I I think there might be an approachability   issue with you because you're so good looking. Yeah. And your wife is so beautiful.   You know, and and the child is is   is is is beautiful and your dog is beautiful. And and,   perhaps when people see this perfect beautiful family,   they're like, they're untouchable. I couldn't even approach them. What what do I have to talk to them about? That's probably true. I I can understand that. Maybe you guys should dress down.  

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Yeah. I'll try that. I mean, I do try that, but I also wear my own clothing and, well, you know. Big skull on the back.   May maybe that's the reason.   Ask me about pleb mining. That could be the reason I go over on with a fucking skull on my back and dirty old shitty van, like pikey vans with metal strapped to it. They probably think,  

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let's leave this guy alone. He's probably a pikey. This is a gypsy with a skull on his back.   Okay. Anyway, back to our untapped meshtadel. Joel spoke on the importance of building relationships beyond the whole trustless money solution. It's like, alright. We got Bitcoin. We got the money situation handled. All right? Now it's time to move on to other things. That's probably what the meshtadel is all about. Definitely. So here's a clip from Joel and the untapped meshtadel. I apologize for the Zoom quality of recording and all the beard scratching on his end. That's probably gonna drive you nuts, Max. Just try to ignore it.   Calm down.  



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You ready? Painted my office blue in preparation.   Happy thoughts.  

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Trust is a just a facet of doing business.   Like, bit Bitcoin solves the trustless money problem, but we have to solve, how do you build relationships   inside of doing actual exchange together where trust is the glue that makes productivity   possible.   And   there's different levels of trust required to be productive together.   And this is one of the big things I ran into early, where   people think in 2 extreme lenses when they're trying to work together. It's either   complete and total individualism,   where they don't wanna depend upon anybody at all,   or it's complete and total, like   like, like communalism,   where everybody shares everything in common   and nobody has anything that's their own. It's it's like there's no middle ground left in our cultural mindsets   that used to exist when we were a less atomized society   of kind of the favored gift economies and the more complex forms of capital, including social capital. It's almost exactly what what we spoke about. Rugged individualism  

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is a good thing. It's something that we strive for. But do you think, you know, in your experience,   that it cuts people off? Like, well, I don't need you. I'm gonna do everything by myself. Yeah. And it's only good for so long. Like,  

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doing everything yourself and not having these connections to neighbors and everyone around you is long term not a good play because if shit hits the fan, you're gonna need help. You need people around. You need to be able to look out for each other. You need to be able to support each other. So, yeah, there's a balance, isn't there? It's like, you don't wanna be   depending on the neighborhood, like, especially around here, you don't wanna be too involved because there's a lot of fucking nonsense of people who will then start grassing on you for everything and get involved in your business and just fucking wind you up. But having some sort of connection   and looking out for each other is important at the same time. It's a balance. Joel breaks down what what he thinks is the balance between  

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the collaborative, the cooperative,   and communal relationships.  

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There are different ways people work together.   Cooperative   is where   you share objectives,   and there's easy frameworks, pretty deep accountability   where the relationships are really liquid.   So like a like a grain co op that shares a common mill or something,   or like a dehusker or something.   Where you got a bunch of farmers, they each could kinda come by and use the mill. They all put capital in to buy it in the first place.   There's cleaning rules and things about not breaking the equipment, and it's monitored by video or something. And if somebody abuses the equipment, they're out of the co op, and it's really simple for, like, really quick, clean accountability.   Nobody really has to know each other. There's just this vested interest that's shared and it scales really far really easily.  

Collaborative requires some trust.   You gotta trust confidence. You gotta trust honesty. The herd share would be a good example of a collaborative relationship where it's like, the farmer's put as a steward   over the community's herd share cows.   And he's managing the process and he's also reporting about what's happening.   It's more trust than cooperative, so it requires more relationship.   But it's pretty clear framework of expectations too, and it's pretty easy to make sure that framework's being adhered to through the reporting mechanisms and just going and visiting and kind of social enforcement.   And then communal   would be more like   a high speed start up team to where you're serving a purpose you don't really even fully have defined yet.  

And during that co discovery process, you're just trusting each other   to have the grit and the honor amongst the team to figure it out along the way. And so that, with the less structure, requires more alignment, requires deeper relationship, requires deeper trust, but it doesn't scale.   But   the nature of the depth that it allows you to accomplish solving problems that you couldn't solve and something that was less,  

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like, tightly woven. So there he lays out the balancing act that you had had mentioned before. It isn't rugged individualism.   It isn't complete communal living. There's a give and take and and a balance between all three of these theories of community relationships. He thinks pretty deeply about this stuff, doesn't he, Joel?   Yeah. He sure does. There's a lot going on in that brain of his, I feel, all the time. He's just one of those people that not only fleshes this shit out in theory,   but tries it out in real life. It's cool to see where it's come Mhmm.  

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From our first conversations.   What? Like,   I'm trying to think when I last recorded with them, like, a year and a half, 2 years ago, or something like that. Gotta be more than 2 years. Do you reckon? Yeah. How long? Yeah. Fuck.   Well, yeah.   He's not someone who just talks about it. He's actually doing it. And we like that here. That is good. Oh, you mean you can just talk about things?   This is what most people do. Interesting. What's gonna happen is I've got this idea. Oh my god. You said it. Let me check-in on you in a year. So how about  

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Thinko?  

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Think boys. But I'm gonna do this new thing. Yeah.   Yeah. We like that. I I like when people are actually doing, and he's definitely a doer. We have a lot of doers in the meshtadel. We do. And I think that's why Joel  

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liked using the mesh todell as a feedback mechanism.   We have a lot of people in the mesh todell that ask the right questions like SolEx.   He's just one of these thinkers. I never think of the things that SolEx thinks of. That's why I like being around him.  

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Ask the right questions.  

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Joel spoke about the balance between providing for the herd's immediate needs and ensuring its long term success.   The reason why he went through that balance   of communalism   versus, you know, a co op versus collaboration   is because within that herd shares, he has to constantly make these decisions about what's best for the macro of the herd and what's best for the micro relationship of the herd share owner. All this stuff has gone over in the contract in the Excel spreadsheet where you can type in, basically, I want 1 I want, let's say, 10 herd shares. What's that going to look like 30 months from now? And that's kind of his minimum time that he wants you to be in the herd share program. What's that look like 5 years? What's that look like 10 years out? And he has to make these decisions about what's the overall   best thing for the herd to keep this going long term, to keep it viable, to keep it profitable, and what's the best thing for the herd share owner themselves.  

One of the important parts that he went over as far as the macro overall health of the herd is the breeding program that they have there, that he's looking at all these different kinds of breeds of cow and targeting their unique traits. He's got Pineywoods.   He's got African Moshona. He's got Abrac, which I think is like an extinct breed almost. This was like the the original very large cow that the Romans have, the Albrac.   Thule,   Drakensburger, a lot of these are are like African   cows that are good at working with herdsmen.   They have early sexual maturity.  

They're naturally parasite resistant. Some of these, I think the African Moshona, for instance, if a tick bites it, it's able to, like I don't know if I'm even saying this right. Like, cut off the blood vessel there so it starves out the tick. It's got special sweat oil glands, you know, that increase its resistance to pests and parasites. They're hardy.   They're hardy. Yep. That's the the right way of saying it. Like us, John. Yeah.   He was talking about the Pineywoods cattle. If you've heard Joel talk long enough, he'll talk about Pineywoods. Like, that is the base the base cow. They were abandoned by the Spanish, essentially, in in Mississippi. So they've been living in the swamp. These are swamp cows in Mississippi, and their udders are really high and tight, you know, because they're walking around in swampy areas. These these things are tough. They can survive, and that's what his genetics and breeding strategy is built around. Like, I like this aspect. I like this aspect. This isn't for   industrial farming profitability.  

This is for let me have rugged animals   who can recreate the behavior of wild bison, who I can mob graze them, I can manage, you know, ultra high density grazing system. They work well with me, the herdsmen. They're good mothers. They're survivable in tough conditions.   That's what he's looking towards. And SolEx asked the question, as SolEx does, like, well, what about inbreeding?   What problems are you going to have there? And Joel said, you actually have advantages to concentrating these good genetics.   That small genetic selections can actually be beneficial if you're organizing it correctly. So when you involve yourself into the herd share program, it's not like you say, hey. I'm I bought a cow,   and I want it now. And you can do that eventually. You can you can get out anytime. You want to have them slaughter it? Fine. You wanna come pick it up? Fine. But Joel is ultimately going to help you decide what is the best thing for you as the herd share owner and also the best he's gonna make the decision what's best for the overall herd itself, balancing this   cooperative,   collaborative  

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trust relationship. It's a minefield.   I remember listening to   him the first time I ever heard him talking about these type of cows and how hardy they were. And he was going into   how much of an issue the current sort of farming techniques   are on the cattle and how   most of these things need help just to give birth. And without it, the animals just die, and they need all these drugs, and they're fed a load of shit and all this stuff. And I remember it blowing my mind when whenever it was a few years ago and just how much sense it made, what he was talking about with this regenerative stuff and the way to graze and how that's better for the soil and everything else. And it's just like it's, like, obvious   when you think about it that this is the way you should do it, but at the same time, it's extremely complicated.  

And so I understand why you need some guidance on this stuff. He spent, obviously, a lot of time researching   and,  

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thinking about this stuff. He even goes down to things like the the micro micro ecosystem   within the herd, and that goes down to dung beetles.   That goes down to the mites that live on dung beetles, the nematodes in the soil, all of these things controlling horn fly larvae. It's pretty wild. The guy is a complete freaking nerd and has thought of everything from top to bottom of this system. So what is the Herd Chair program? The mechanics of it, I'm not gonna talk about it very much. That is Joel's job. I think everyone after listening to this is probably gonna want to reach out to him and find out more about the Herd Share program and see if it's right for you. I think for somebody that that wants steady beef and has a long time horizons   or a decent investment past 30 months,   couple years, 5   years. Even if you're overseas, there are still benefits to you, and SolEx asked this same thing. So maybe he can speak speak on it as to why he would invest into the herd share programs. I myself asked for me. You know? Hey. Somebody like me. I have my own cows. My my partner and I do. We get them for a very good price. And I I told Joel our prices, and he's like, well, shit. That's that's a really good price. That's local stuff. That's local economy. We have land.  

We aren't great you know, manage intensive grazing properly, and there's a lot more that goes into that than we really have the time or the understanding, but we we feed their grass fed. It's good grass. Are we doing everything as well as Joel? Well, fuck no. No way.   That's not gonna happen. I'm not at his level even thinking,   labor wise,   organizational structure, but I have a good way of getting meat in a steady   stream of of buying cows and slaughtering cows. So I said to him specifically, how could I benefit from this? And he's like, pretty much you, you know, in the situation that you're in, and he he knows my situation, is the availability to our genetic stock. Mhmm. You could be in line to get one of the bulls that we're not going to use in our breeding program. You could be in line to get semen from one of our our prized bulls. Of course, he has to balance.   Listen, if some farmer offers him $10,000   for some of this bull semen, well, obviously, I'm not gonna compete with that. And I would say, hey. Yeah. Don't go with me if those guys giving you $10. It's an expensive load.  

Yeah.   That would be the benefit to me in my operations. But everybody around the world, everybody within the mesh to del, within our our our social groups, it's different for you. Mhmm. So reach out to Joel, contact him, see if any of this is right for you. I know we have a slight time constraint today, but can we talk a little bit about  

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your experience with your cattle or cow, SoulEx the cow, and what that was like? Yeah. Sure.  

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SoulEx is the second cow   that my partner and I did. We're on to cows   6 & 7   now. Soulex was the first cow that I I did completely on my own. And I guess the first question to answer is why is it named SoulEx?   In order to purchase this cow, I wanted it to be a super Bitcoin y thing.   So I sold a lot. Probably, I don't know if I should even be saying this. I sold a lot of Bitcoin, and SoulEx was one of my buyers. Besides that, he's just very supportive. Do you have a transaction ID? No. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get that right over to you.   One of my my supporters and my friends and and confidants,   so I just thought it fitting that I named it SoulEx.  

Before I did any of this, the getting into the cows and stuff, I went to visit Joel in Virginia while he was moving his herd from Virginia down to Oklahoma. I've been involved with him for a long time. We've become friends. I don't have a ton of money, you know, laying around, but I always want to help people in in whatever way I can, especially for projects that I truly believe in. And I said, listen, man. I I wanna help you guys get these these cows moved. I I wanted to learn from you value for value exchange. I learned something about cattle operations,   and I act as labor for you to to help move these cows. And he said, sure. Befriended one of his buddies that he he ran that operation in Virginia with, still very good friends with this guy, made it down to Virginia,   and,   put Sarah and the girls up in a beach condo   while while we did all this. So Sarah and the girls got to go on a beach vacation in Virginia Beach while I moved cows and and did a LARPing   cattle man stuff   for me.  

It was a fun adventure. I learned a lot. I learned a lot about moving cows, about how to interact with them. You know, Joel is very hippie like   with with the cows. He's got no shirt on. He's just wearing shorts. He's got no shoes on half the time. He's telling me, you know, about how to not directly face the cows, but sort of off to the side and all of your energy, like, comes from your solar plexus against the cows.   Just all this, like, hippie dippy stuff, but guess what? Okay. It works. It literally works. And the reason I know that is after I secured the cow, I secured the cow from this guy named John Lindley, Lindley beef dot org. I'm gonna plug his website now. Sure. It gets you an idea as to where I live, but fuck off. Everybody knows I live in Western Pennsylvania. Everyone knows you're armed as well.   Very well armed, and so are all my neighbors. Mhmm. And children. And children.  

That's what we're talking about. Daddy? Do it. Daddy, where's my fucking glock?  

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Me as a Brit, when I hear something like that from a from a young lady, from a child, I think, woah. The fuck is going on over there? It also made me think, no, I'm not gonna rob you anymore. No. That $5 wrench attack is is not looking so tempting anymore. You're gonna need more than a wrench, homeboy. Oh, yeah. You need a fucking tank.  

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Anyway, I befriended this guy named John Lindley. This guy's an 85 year old grass farmer, has been doing this shit longer than Greg Judy, longer than Joel Salatin. He knows all those guys. This guy is an OG,   mob grazing, grass fed,   old breeding stock cows. I I it's Red Devon is the name of the breed. This guy's   legit OG, and he lives a couple miles away from me. What do I do? I befriend this guy. Not dumb. I was working on the street one day. I saw him getting his mail. We're working, like, right across the street from his farm, and my partner, Andy, is like, there's John Lindsay. Go talk to him. Go talk to him. He's like, I don't know. I get, like, all worked up and stuff. Dude, go talk to him. So I run over there. Mister Lindley, mister Lindley, like some kind of fanboy, you know?   And he's like, hey, you know, fella. Hi. You know, I'm John, you know, a big fan of your beef, and I'm really into regenerative agriculture and and mob grazing and stuff. It's really nice to meet you, and he's like, wow, That's really great. So you you know who I am? You know what I do up there? Oh, yeah. I know. I know you do. I've talked to all the cattlemen around here, and they say that they all think you're crazy and you're but you're the guy to go to. And he's like, yeah. They all think I'm crazy for sure, but that's okay. You know, I'd I'd do what I wanna do. I should let you know. I'd listen. I'd I'd like to talk to you sometime and and and come up there and see how you do things. And he said, I tell you what, I'm pregnancy testing the cows tomorrow. Why don't you come on up and help us out? I was like, oh, man. That's awesome. Yeah. It's it's like I don't know. You see a famous athlete, and he asks you to, to go play catch with him. So you played it cool? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I wasn't real excited or anything. I was like, yeah. Yeah, sure. Sure, man. I'll help you out.  

So I go up there to his barn the next day. I guess I'm a nim now, so I could say this. I did it on work time.   I took my lunch.   I went pregnancy testing cows. So I go up there and he's, like, too old to do this stuff anymore. So he hires a vet and a couple of, like, the local guys come and help him do all this stuff. That's a really good community. The whole cow community down there in that town where where Andy's from, everybody knows everybody.   So I helped him out. I ran a squeeze chute. You know, get him in there, squeeze him in, smack these other cows. You know, by the end of this, my hand is completely beet red and throbbing. And I've got pretty tough hands. You know, I work out in in the cold. I don't wear gloves. Just smacking these cows. I don't know. I was just like really into it. All right. Let's go. Get them up. Get them up. Get them up. I put them in a squeeze shoot, let one go. Vet would shove its arm up up its ass, a little do another little thing, yell out some numbers. John Lundy's wife's writing the stuff down in her cute little book, you know, keeping track of everything. Build a good relationship with him. What was it you were telling me about the alignment of stars and  

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something to do with the timing  

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of breeding or something like that? Sure. I go back a couple weeks later, and I'm like, alright. Now I'm I'm ready to to pull the trigger here on on buying this cow from John Lindley. Red Devon is the right breed. He's the right guy. You know, Andy doesn't care about any of the stuff. He gets these cows from his brother. You know, this cow could have an eyeball hanging out. Andy be like, yep. That's the one. My brother gave me a good price on it.   But Andy knows how I am. Everything's gotta be a certain way. It's gotta be this breed. This is the breed I picked. This is the guy I picked. This is what we're doing. Okay? You know, he don't fight me on any of this stuff. We've been working together for 13 years every day. He just doesn't. This lets me go. That's the best thing, Max. Just let me go. You know. You've already learned that. I know. It's not worth finding. No. So I go meet with him and decide that I I'm gonna to buy this cow, and and he's like, well, when do you want it? And I was like, ASAP. He's like, alright. Okay. Well, we don't do things ASAP. You gotta wait for the zodiac   to fall. I think he said. Like the stars have to be aligned   because when you band the steer has to be done by the zodiac. And when the steer is ready to be sold, that has to be done by the zodiac. And I never mess around with any of the stuff. I just do it by the zodiac, the Farmer's Almanac, and that's when you you come by here. It was, like, August 1st, and he'll be ready. And I said, what's your price? And he writes the price, like, on a little tiny piece of paper, you know, that he had in his pocket. Mhmm. And it was $2 a pound. That's your price right there. Like, he wouldn't tell me. That's how old school this guy is.  

It had to be on the piece of paper. As we talked about being pressed for time, I'll fast forward a little bit. Pick up the cow. When we pick it up, he's like, well, it's a steer, you know. And he just got weaned, so he's looks excited. You got a pen for him to be in? And Andy, you're like, well, pen? We don't need a pen. Listen, all the fence we make is telephone poles, all our corner poles, and the fence are telephone poles because,   you know, we can get them. You know, cut cut old telephone poles. Really strong fence. Okay.   Just telling you, he's going to be a little wild. Oh, oh, don't that's okay, mister Lindley. We know what we're doing. Don't worry. We built this fence ourselves. This was during plet miner month, and I get a call the next morning, like, first thing. Andy's   like, cow's gone. I was like, what? Oh my god. I got a meeting with all these guys about playing minor month. I think I'm supposed to record today. You know? I had to cancel these meetings. I was like, oh, alright. Well, I guess we're taking a vacation day, and and and I'll be right down there. So I get on there, and what happened was one of the other cows had chased cow solex around, smashed him into a fence. Fence pops open. He's on the other side of the fence. I was like,   okay. Guess I'm just gonna keep on walking.  

We look for him for 2 days. Everybody in the area is looking for him. John Lindley, you know, I called John Lindley because he's got John Lindley's ear tags on it. And I said, listen, mister Lindley, I just wanna let you know that that cow got out, and he's like, well, I told you you're gonna need a pen. You know, they're pretty wild, but that's okay. I just feel terrible. I used to ride a horse all through town. I I wish I could get on the horse and look for that cow. I this boy, this just troubles me terribly. He must have called me 3 or 4 times during these 2 days to see if we had found the cow yet or to let me know that he spoke to this guy and he spoke to that guy. They were really they were the whole family was really upset that this cow got lost. We eventually find where the cow is, and it's this big open field   that is butted by Andy's brother's   field, which has a bull in it that is really rowdy, the neighbor's field, which has another bull in it that is really rowdy. So we suspected that Cow Soulex was just pretty intimidated by these these bulls just bellowing all the time. But this was an enclosed horse pasture, so we had some friends to hang out with. We managed to find him,   and Andy, his son, and I spent   3 or so hours just calmly   walking Cal Soulex   to the corner of the pasture where we had a livestock trailer set up and a fence   and temporary fencing,   and we coaxed him into the livestock trailer   using   Joel's hippie dippy, don't directly face the cow technique with your solar plexus.  



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Okay.   And it worked. And he was delicious. Yeah. I remember that as well. Because I was like, oh, don't don't you think you're gonna really like the cow, and then you're gonna struggle to eat the cow. And I remember you and Sarah being like, fuck that thing. He he had us running around for 2 days. We're gonna eat that bitch.  

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I don't think Sara ever called him Soulex. She called him little bastard. Little   but he was delicious? He was delicious. Yes. And I don't know. We have learned so much about cows,   and it   really only scratches the surface of what guys like Joel   know.   We're just chumps by by comparison, but we're doing it, and that's what counts.   Max, recently, there was a vent in the United   States with a cell phone outage. It was mainly AT and T cell phones, I believe. You think me being in the industry, I would have a better understanding of what happened. You'd think. You'd think. Yeah. There were all these theories, all solar flares and a cyber attack, and and I'm not sure. I think a lot of this stuff can just be chalked up to there maybe have been a particular piece of equipment that took a firmware upgrade that didn't take. I've been in this industry for a long time, 30 years. I've seen you know, there's all kinds of distributed telecom equipment all over the place. This switch might be made by Nortel. This switch might be made by Lucent, AT&T, and all these different equipment manufacturing. So it could be something simple. Don't know. The point is, what do you have for redundancy and backup? Like, in your Bitcoin mine, are you on a cell network? Do you have any backup? For instance,   fiber is your best choice period. It's more hardy towards things like solar flares than satellites and cell phone signal. What do you do as a family if your cells are out and you have no way to communicate with each other? Do your kids know how to use a landline? Do your kids know their phone number? Do your kids know your phone number?  

What's your plan if you guys can't get ahold of each other? Where do you guys muster together? Do you does everybody come home? Does everybody go to a public place like the school or a playground or something like that? Do you have Wi Fi calling on? Does your wife know how to use Wi Fi calling? Do your kids know how to use Wi Fi calling? Do your kids have another way of contacting you besides just the phone call? Do they text? Do they use messaging apps like kids' Messenger or Telegram,   FaceTime? Oh, sometimes these, you know, like, texts work, but Telegram doesn't work. A phone call doesn't work if it's 3 g. Your 5 g, you know, Wi Fi calling doesn't work, but the old school radio connection works. Do you have different providers amongst your family members? A lot of people are all on Verizon or AT&T, for instance, for these family programs.   Maybe somebody outside of that family can be on T Mobile or be on, you know, one of the other carriers. Maybe your parents could be on a different carrier if they're watching your kids. Within the mesh, there are a lot of people that like   mesh networks. I know Yvette is into this kind of thing. I think Eric b is. There's a new guy named Gary that just joined, and he's working on a thing called, mesh Tastic, which is like an open source off grid decentralized   mesh network that runs on, you know, like, low powered long range radio protocols without needing, like, a ham license. Do you know how to do that? Do your kids know how to use walkie talkies? Do walkie talkies work in your area? Do you have walkie talkies? I wanted to mention that stuff quickly because communication, of course, is very important. And when there's a big cell phone outage, a lot of people lost their freaking minds, and it doesn't have be that difficult. Yeah. One thing I love is walkie talkies are always cool. They're just cool, so consider it. If you wanna be cool, get a walkie talkie. They are cool, aren't they? Do you not feel cool when you use a walkie talkie? Yeah. Something like childish that I just like, there's something in me that brings me back to being, like, a 6 year old boy and just being like, this is fucking cool. As soon as you press a button, they're like, come in. Come in with, like, some stupid code name. It's just fun. I like it. You have to say over. Oh, yeah. Over. Over now. If you're an American, we say breaker breaker 1 niner. What's that mean? I don't know. It's like what the truck reviews. Breaker breaker 1 niner. Yeah. Breaker breaker 1 niner. This is Meatballs. Do you copy? Hey, Meatballs. This is Upchuck. How are you doing, buddy?  

Sarah used got her hands on a CB radio when she was a kid, and her and her friend would try to prank call not prank call, prank   CB truckers. Brilliant. You know? And like one of them really got the 2 of them. Like, he's like, I'm a come and get you. I'm a find out where you are. I'm a come to your house.   So he scared shitless for days.   Anyway, look into it. Look into   radio  

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communication. John used to be a trucker for many years.  

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I finally got her. I found her.   That last little segment was about preparedness.   You gotta be ready for anything.   Calm breakdowns,   supply chain breakdowns.   That's why we like our manufacturer,   Bifrost Manufacturing.   BiFrost Manufacturing is our action news   sponsor. They make all kinds of different mining equipment,   little containment   flappers so in case your machine dies down,   it doesn't suck all the hot air through the other side of the machine. They're working on different technology to boost fans. They're actually, like, printing their own fan blades   that may not have as much airflow, but they have greater pressure. Maybe I'm I'm reversing that back and forth. They're always innovating in the mining space, but they're also a sponsor here on PMM.  

Why is should the meshtadel be interested in a sponsor like Bifrost Manufacturing?   Well, during societal collapse and supply chain breakdown, as we found out a few years ago, your everything is held up because of one specific part. Mhmm. Our supply chains are so connected to China that whatever project you might have, if it's farming, if it's your own manufacturing, if it's Bitcoin mining, and you are on the hook for a large build because of one specific part, what do you do? Well, you reach out to somebody like Bifrost Manufacturing, where they'll take a look at that part. They'll scan it with their 3 d scanner, which is so accurate that it's used in the aerospace industry. Like, aerospace people, and they're in North Dakota. They're in North Dakota. There's Northrop Grumman's. North Dakota University is there, and they have a big aerospace program. And they're using Bifrost Manufacturing because   the people that started Bifrost, Aaron and and Killian and and that crew, are from the aerospace industry. You need something scanned with that kind of level of accuracy and reproduced   in metal, in plastic,   hand  

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done, cut out, water jet, 3 d printed. You name it, they can do it. Yeah. It's fucking cool. And especially for smaller builds and people who wouldn't otherwise get preferential treatment. If you're in the meshtadel  and you need some help, they're the people to reach out. I'll mention this also. They can make dental implants.  

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They have a machine there that can print   that level of   intricacy   and durability.   Dental implants. Mhmm. Well, they're titanium. I don't know. I didn't I didn't take a look at that particular machine while I was there. I just thought that was cool. I think it's titanium because then bone grows around it.   You can   you can't well, the kids in there are just having a good old time.   With a glock. If you break your teeth if you break your teeth on barn jerky, you can call Bifrost Manufacturing to print your new teeth. How's that for an ad read? Pretty good. Last year. We   we we spoke we were you and I were talking earlier in the week about,   I this was brought to my attention. I was talking to a guy, and he's talking about one of his younger friends, and this guy must be in his his mid to late twenties. And he had a vasectomy. Mhmm. He doesn't have any kids. Interesting. I must have missed that part  

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because o okay seems like a pretty mild reaction to this. Well, I don't know the full story, do I? We haven't talked about this bit. This is new to me. Now that I know he hasn't got any kids, that's maybe slightly different to, like, he's got 7 kids, and he's fucking doesn't wanna stop shagging   He's got a felony. Yeah. Thought he might get a vasectomy.   Wife isn't into anal. So  

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here we go.  

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I only show.   Yeah. Exactly.   So that that makes sort of more sense in that in that case, but hasn't got any kids. That ain't the case, bro.  

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Yeah. Well I mean, I I didn't get the full story on this guy, but they he is married Mhmm. And he got a vasectomy. Okay. And I was talking to somebody else, and they said they knew a young I was telling the story to somebody else. I was like, oh, yeah. I know a younger guy who got a vasectomy.  

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They're missing out on a lot. I don't think people understand,   how much you miss out on loving kids. How are we gonna repair society  

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or bolster ourselves against the globalists   without families?  

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Yeah. Because it sort of breeds out well, you can I guess you'd look at it 2 ways? Like, if someone doesn't want kids and they're morbid like, I know some people who are like, I just don't want kids. I'm like, why? Like, oh, I like my time, and I like my nice things, and, you know, that matters more to me.   It's like, okay. Well, maybe those people wouldn't be the best people to have children   and pass on their genetics because they're caring more about the materialistic stuff, and then, therefore, they're probably gonna be more compliant with a lot of stuff.  

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Do you know what I mean? Like, maybe maybe those people But it also chain it also changes you. Yes. Having kids brings you into a certain   level of masculinity   that you cannot achieve without having children or without taking that masculine role of of raising the next generation. I don't care if you're a father of daughters or you're a father of sons. Mhmm. You grow into that role. A lot of people say, I don't think I'm ready to be a dad. And I say to them, don't worry. When they come, you won't have a choice. You'll just become dad.   You grow into that role. They don't really give you a lot of option in not being dad. None. Unless you're a total piece of shit. Yes. This is true. That's that demoralization   aspect. And that's one of the side effects of seeing young men demoralize is that they don't want to have kids, that they're getting vasectomies.  

Not only that, but we see it all the time. Masculinity   has dropped. Testosterone levels amongst young men has dropped. The things that they're interested in, they don't wanna work on cars. They don't wanna, you know I don't know if this is a good thing, but they don't wanna join the military. They don't wanna get into bar fights, and be rowdy and then get calmed down by a good woman and turn into a good dad. You've had all those life experiences. It reminds me are you familiar with this study that was done in the seventies   called   Mouse Utopia,   Universe 25?  



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Yeah.   I   am familiar. I'm trying to remember where I   read it.   I think I read it in that book that I suggested to you,   about the Manson family.   I think they talked about it there. Really? Yeah. It was a good book. It was a good book. But, yeah, go on. For anyone who isn't familiar,   can you   inform?  

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Sure. I can. It was a study done in the early seventies by the scientist John b Calhoun.   And what he did was put mice in perfect conditions,   68 degrees, plenty of food within in the containment area, but there was the potential for overpopulation.   As the experiment goes on, the mice have all the food they could ever want. They have all the comfort needs they ever want, but the same thing happened over and over once the overpopulation   got to a certain tipping point, and that is procreation slumped.   Mothers were abandoning their infant baby mice   mortality sword. Lone females retreated to isolating nesting boxes on penthouse levels, you know, cat moms at the penta penthouse level. They had miniature little boxes of wine.  

What? No.  

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I was like, I can't remember this part of the study.  

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What? Miniature boxes of wine.   Funny enough, the the mice kept cats as pets.   You you had these, like, uppity females who retreat to the penthouse levels. The men, some of the men were known as but men. Male mice were known as the beautiful ones. They never fought. They never sought sex. They just slept,   ate, and groomed.   How many young men do you know who live that lifestyle?   They're docile. They just sleep, eat, groom, play my video games,   hang out with my buddies, have a point.   No desire to find a woman. No desire to procreate. Oh, yeah. No desire to involve yourself in masculine activities. Yes. We see that a lot. What happened to these mice?   I think the at the end result is cannibalism,   pansexualism   Mhmm. And violence. Yes. That is what I remember. There were, like, gangs   of single men that rove around and,   little tiny mouse machetes   and zombie knives.  

Yeah. Everybody in the house hooded up. Masked  

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up. They had their hoodies on.   Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember. I remember the study. It was something like, the   majority   just did nothing, and then you had the very small factions who then went and, like, raped and killed and just destroyed everyone else.  

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Something like that. All the beautiful ones were so apathetic, and and, the men didn't protect their families. And then it ended up in just  

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complete death and everything. Complete death and collapse. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There there are parallels to be drawn.  

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I thought you were gonna expound upon those parallels. No. I think they're clear.   Yeah. You sure are. It's like I'm I'm I'm describing the beautiful one to be like, I know that guy. Mhmm.  

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Oh, yeah. Many, many of them. Yeah. It's it's a weird   I don't know.   There's kind of, like, two sides to it. Part of me sees   and I'm speaking just for the UK here. I see a lot of that, like,   weak,   soft   types who play a lot of video games, who   just sort of, like, drink on the weekends or smoke a lot of weed and   probably have a Pornhub subscription   and don't really get out and about and don't really have much drive and whinge about everything, and everything's too hard. And they they don't really have any ambition and probably don't wanna have kids because it's too hard and too costly. And some of that is true. It's fucking hard to have a family in the UK, and it's really tough to survive.   But at the same time, you think, come on, mate. Fucking   at least fight it. At least try. Don't just give up. Don't just bitch out. And then you have a sort of other side where you do have a small faction, a small group of guys who are sort of the counterweight to that, who are,   I guess, what would be called, like, racist,   what else would you be called? Like, racist   right wing extremists  

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who like I don't like the right wing extremists because that's that's a leftist term, but I know exactly what you're talking about.  

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Don't use don't use their language. Yeah. A racist right wing extremist who wants to eat meat,   who wants to train,   who wants to have responsibility   for themselves and their families,   who wants to   achieve those kind of things, racist things.  

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Yeah. Yeah. And there's also climate change. Don't forget about that. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Eating healthy foods and working out is bad for climate change. Mhmm.   That brings on the next point is you don't want to be these extremes. You don't want to be one of the beautiful ones. But then again, you'd also don't want to be this militaristic  

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Rapey mouse.  

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Rapey yeah. You don't want to be in the roving gangs, and you don't want to be one of the beautiful ones. Nope. I'm not saying not to have any extreme opinions   or just be a middle of the road. Oh, no. Middle of the road. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the pendulum swing back and forth that when you exist on the fringes of this pendulum swing, that's when bad things happen. For instance, Bolshevism.   Everybody everybody thinks that, you know, oh, left left is,   Bolshevism,   and right is fascism. No. Get off of that freaking left versus right scale. Listen. You don't want to be a a Bolshevist, They're probably responsible for more deaths than any other group around if you include,   the initial Bolshevik revolution, what they did to take over all of Asia,   the Holodomor in the Ukraine. I mean, they're responsible for a lot of death. Then you have national socialism and fascism on that side of things, almost a reaction to Bolshevism.  

Oh, shit. These communists are are are gonna come and destroy our nation. They're gonna destroy all nations. They're gonna, pile us together in 1 big group. I want to protect my people. I want to protect my heritage. I want to protect my country. I'm gonna join the National Socialist Party. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. That pendulum is swinging really, really far to the other end. Now all these people are existing on this side of the pendulum. And it's those extreme ends of the pendulum Mhmm. That's those fringes is where men become animals   and demons. Mhmm. And that's all we're saying is to avoid. You don't have to be a middle of the road milk toast   lump,  

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but just be careful at that pendulum swing. Be careful as it swings in the other direction, and you don't get caught up in that momentum. Yeah. You don't go on the extreme end of either. Yeah. Because there's a lot of, like, when you talk about that pendulum swing, you have the sort of I don't know what you call them, like, the beautiful ones   who   you then have the pendulum going the other way, and you have people listening to, like, the Andrew Tates and people like that. People get wrapped up in   what they're talking about, and they take like, some of the parts   are   reasonable, and it's like, okay. It makes sense. And then you have, like Yeah. The sprinkled   on top. And you have to just be careful to ignore some of the nonsense where it becomes   unhelpful.  



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Good advice, man.   Max, if there's one thing that we know in our hearts as we fight against the global elite, as we resist demoralization,   as we resist being pushed to one side of the pendulum, either we're a beautiful   one or we're an Andrew Tate douchebag,   is that the globalists hate the sovereign man. Yes. They hate the sovereign family. And we think that taking your food supply in your own hands   is one way to increase your sovereignty. Mhmm. To build your community is one way to increase and solidify your sovereignty, and to secure your money is   the best way to increase your sovereignty. Yes.  

For a long time that we have pushed my home mining as a way to to get Bitcoin, as a way to increase your sovereignty stack and secure your your money supply. As you figure out ways to harness solar energy or cheap energy rates, heat capture, we think home mining is a good way to do that. We think small scale mining is a good way to do that if you're innovative,   if you're creative, if you stay profitable. Altair Technologies   is a good partner in securing your money supply.   Altairtech.io   is the website.   Max, if you go on the website   and whatever scale of miner that you are, if you just wanna use a Bitaxe, if you just wanna use a Gecko Science USB stick miner, if you wanna buy 10 s 20 ones, 200 Terahash,   multi year has all of the stuff. We are coming out of the winter season. The availability to use   heat capture is kind of reducing, but he has all the supplies, the the the bit chimney. He sells single boards, which is actually pretty rare of people cannibalizing  

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miners to pull out a single board to provide to the to the sovereign man, the sovereign family to mine at home. Yeah. It's cool. So people can do this on any level. And like you said, being able to secure your money and be able to actually   do this without using KYC services and everything else is kind of foundational to this whole thing. You know, we wouldn't have the Meshedale without Bitcoin. And, honestly,   if you have a way to mine at home and not tell anyone about it, this really,   really is the best way. So having someone like Altair, which ships anywhere in the world Is key. Altair,  

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Bitcoin   mining solutions. Did I sell that? You said Altair. You said it. And then I thought to myself, did I did I say Altair in this ad read at some point? Oh, shit. I got it written real big right here, Altair in front of me. Tattooed on your hand. Yeah. Might as well at this point.   All scales of Bitcoin mining. All scales of Bitcoin mining. When you start mining at home, you don't stop. It is absolutely   addictive. Not addicting. Oh, I can't stand when people say addicting. It's addicting.   Do people say that there? No. We speak proper English. Yeah. I thought so. Good thing. You scale up. You just can't help yourself. You just keep buying more miners deeper and deeper and deeper down the mining rabbit hole. Hey. No matter how far deep you wanna go down this rabbit hole, you can always look to the stars,   to the Aquila constellation.  

Look at the bright shining star that is Altair.  

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I don't know.   You're such a marketing wiz. Pull yourself out of the rabbit hole. I'm sat here, I'm thinking like,  

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it's our guiding star. It's shining light on all of us. Yeah. It gives us hope. It does. Altair gives us hope. Look up to the sky, plebs. What do you see? Altair.   Alteritech.   Io.  

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What's that?  

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Or our affiliate link on Ungovernable Misfits. Click on it. Buy stuff. And to finish out the show, we have another article from Charles Francois   Bienvenue   Myriel,   continuing from his article on the demoralization   of society.   Once again, to remind you, demoralization is the act of corrupting or subverting morals, especially the act of corrupting or subverting discipline,   courage,   hope.   Discipline and courage, those are masculine aspects, aren't they? Or the state of being corrupted or subverted,   subverted   in discipline and courage, etcetera.  

Well, instead of us depressing us with his demoralization   article last time and then just leaving it hang there, he has returned to give us some advice   on how to resist the demoralizers.   In this article, he goes over some solutions to transcend the demoralization attempts and begin to heal as individuals,   families, and members of a greater community. A little bit of a teaser here.   In my last article, I discussed demoralized people demoralizing others. In this article, I want to discuss real solutions to counter the demoralization   tactics used by institutions to break down individuals and push them into docile subjugation. As Ungovertible Misfits, it's important to understand the battle being fought here. It is not a kinetic battle over territory or a political battle for control.  

Those battlegrounds are the wheelhouse of rulers, and entering into them is the primary way to get slaughtered. The true battle we face is a deeply spiritual one over the human soul   and over your mind. When you are able to see what the true battle is, it gives you an asymmetric   advantage over the ruling class. Who wants you to be afraid and worried about the elections, cultural wars, race, kinetic wars, pandemics,   etcetera? The more worried you are, the more beaten down you are, the less control you have over your mind, and the less free your spirit is.   Constant stress has the power to even weaken your immune system. On the other hand, imagine how much more effective you can be with high morale, clear thinking, and lots of energy from not being beaten down by media fear porn.  

Charles Francois Bienvenue Muriel   suggests the three tactics for beating back the demoralizers.   Identify and remove the demoralizers,   feed your soul and spirit despite outside circumstances,   and build your network of people that work to build you up and encourage you. More on Charles Myriel's response to demoralization and what you can do can be read on Ungovernable Misfits dot com. He makes a really good point there. Taking out the stresses, turning off the fucking news for anyone who hasn't already done that is a big one. You know, you need to be reminded of all the bullshit and have it fed to you. Can I unplug from the propaganda machine? Is that allowed?  

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Not for most people. But once you do, you feel a lot better. You feel a lot better. And you could do something a lot more productive,   like go into the gym, or go and source some food or go and spend time with your family or go and reverse your vasectomy.  

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Any of these things. Go and go and do don't do it yourself, though. Yeah. That's not advised.   So we want to identify and remove demoralizers,   feed your soul and spirit, and build your network. Well, that's what the mesh style is all about. Build your network of people who build you up and encourage you. And to quote soulex and soulex boy, when you get to know a pleb with whom you feel like finding a long lost friend, your base for a meshtadel is set.   If you would like to join the meshtadel,   reach out to Max,   Soulex,   myself,   Linkinparkrulz, Mr Crown,   Moses,   Joel, Karl.  

There's, like, a 100 people you can reach out to. Le Pleb Royale. SF's name is Le Pleb Royale now. Reach out to any of the node runners. They'll know how to get you in contact with the mesh. Join us. It's not a cult. We promise.  

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Alright, mate. Well, that was a good one. I look forward to the next one. And once again, if you want to join, if you have something that you feel you can bring to the Meshtadel or you're interested in learning from some of the Meshtadellians,   just,   drop us a message. We'll get you in there. Let's fight these cunts together.