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Preserving Marinated Meat - Barnminer and his Jerky side gig, why and how he does it and how he donates a portion of the profits to causes he believes in, like Ungovernable Misfits.
Producers Meshtadel Marketing - Potential solutions and strategies for Plebs attempting to produce and sell their wares. This quarter we will be offering freshly roasted coffee from Otis Bitmeyer, a lovely candle, and a hoodie of your choice from Ungovernable Misfits.
Pursuing Wellness: Max's Guide to Managing Health and Family - Maintaining health, balancing family life, and staying motivated, and how motivations change in different stages of life.
A Philosophers pitstop, a Minstrel’s Musings Bubba shares some Bubbalonian Philosophy.
Permaculture practitioners: Mastering more than Material - A brief review of the 8 forms of capital focusing on social as a super category buttressed by spiritual and cultural capital.
Disaster Preparedness, plebs Mobilizing, and mitigating Mismanagement – Max and Jon cover the effects of Hurricane Helene on Appalachia. How do communities prepare for disasters, the importance of Plebs mobilizing to support each other? We also discuss how to mitigate government mismanagement and inefficiency and how to empower individuals to take proactive roles in their own preparedness.
Pernicious Money: Myriel on the Masters of Manipulation. We cover the newest Myriel article which exposes how a small elite, including the U.S. government and major financial players, are manipulating Bitcoin infrastructure and media to consolidate control.
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(00:01:35) On Today's Episode...
(00:09:20) Chet's Here
(00:32:46) Pleb Merchant Minute: Barn Jerky
(00:36:34) Water Tangent
(00:38:18) Plebs Manufacturing Merchandise
(00:44:57) Bifrost Manufacturing: Innovation in Body Armor
(00:52:25) Max's Workout Wisdom
(01:03:20) STOP DROP & BOOST
(01:04:27) The Eight Forms of Capital
(01:13:57) ALTAIR Breeds Bitchimneys with Iron Man and S9s
(01:20:56) Disaster Preparedness, Plebs Mobilizing and Mitigating Mismanagement
(01:28:01) The Minstrel's Musings with Bubba
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You're a rude, rude little boy. That's gonna be good for people's ears. Childish. Well, these people do all these weird shows and shooting chickens in the middle of the night and raccoons and brains, and this guy's hacking up all over the mic. What's this show even about? It's terrible, isn't it? It's a terrible, terrible show. Do not listen. Welcome everybody to a truly, truly awful show. If you're some kind of sadist or masochist, continue to listen on. If you enjoy your sanity, just cut it off right now. Yeah. Go and listen to someone's Bitcoin story or,
[00:00:39] Unknown:
something about Sailor. It'll have some sort of way of explaining how Bitcoin is thermodynamically
[00:00:44] Unknown:
sound. Mhmm. And you haven't listened to enough podcasts.
[00:00:49] Unknown:
For your safety, big pharma, big banks, income tax, VAT, The Illuminati Elite, Cultural Marxism, Critical Theory.
[00:01:05] Unknown:
That's right. You globalist pigs. You are nothing to us. We're coming for you. We're coming to destroy you.
[00:01:14] Unknown:
We're coming hard. So hard.
[00:01:18] Unknown:
A little necklace, something like that. I don't know. I don't talk dirty talk. I talk clean talk. That's your job, disgusting blips with dirty, dirty talk. Yes. So welcome, everybody, to another episode of Ungoverable Misfits PMM.
[00:01:35] Unknown:
How are you, Maximilian Von Bittenstein? All the better for speaking to you, mate. Very excited. I've been waiting the entire weekend twiddling my thumbs in anticipation.
[00:01:45] Unknown:
Do you really feel that way? Uh-huh. Because that's exactly how I feel. Mhmm.
[00:01:50] Unknown:
Literally cannot wait. And then because the time distance Yeah. Time difference. Mhmm. I'm up at, like, 5 just like, come on. Let's go. I get to speak to John. Yep. I run around my house screaming it, and the kid's like, daddy, can you just be quiet? I'm trying to sleep. I missus the sound. I'm like, no. Mhmm. I cannot wait. But then I've got another 7 hours. Chanting. Cannot wait. Cannot wait. The dog's pissed off with me. And, yeah, then I have to wait another 7 hours. So I just sit just waiting by the microphone.
[00:02:24] Unknown:
Well, as as everybody's heard on our recent bite sized Bitcoin episodes that, you call me at all hours of the night. You just can't stand it. This distance, this time difference, it it really pulls at your heartstrings, doesn't it? It does. Hey. I just want you to know in spirit, I'm always with you. Okay? Whenever at night you look up at the stars, I'm looking at the same stars. Oh, so there out there beneath the pale moonlight. Someone's thinking of me. That's Max bit by bit tonight. I need to change my name, don't I? I don't know. That's a good question. I was thinking about that the other day. I did, like, this big super tweet of all of the shows. I saw. It was an incredible tweet. The confab that it was, like, in the spirit of the, you know, original bit by bit show. Max bit by bit. Should Max change his name to Max Max Misfit?
[00:03:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know. It has the same Mhmm. I don't think you should. I had Ungovernable MF as a Twitter handle. I was like, that's quite nice. But, yeah, unsure. Max Triple B is what I purchased cause it's like shorter. Mhmm. I don't know.
[00:03:48] Unknown:
I'm not gonna even ask for any recommendations cause it's just No. It'll be very gay. Yeah. It'd be extremely gay. Yeah. Don't bother. Okay. And then I won't be able to call you Max bit by Bittenstein, which is one of my favorite things to do. Oh, that's true. Well, Max bit by Bittenstein, let's tell our listeners what we're going to be speaking about today in this episode of PMM. I think I teased many of these things on the previous show, and then all we ended up doing was talking about raw milk, which is perfectly okay. But there were some other things that we wanted to get to, and that is preserving marinated meat.
We all know our friend, Ben Miner, little, little goat. Me, me, me. I'm a little goat with a scruffy little beard. Pissing on my beard. But I don't piss on your jerky. I would never do that. That's unsanitary. He's got his little jerky side gig, and it's going to be part of another marketing merchant thing that we're doing. And he has a way of getting around shipping outside of the United States. So we'll talk a little bit about that. We'll do Producers, Mestudel marketing. We'll weave that into how we're trying to get other products out to plebs, pleb products, for plebs, by plebs, to plebs.
Pursuing wellness, Max's guide to managing health and family. You know, you're so taught and fit and strong and dedicated to working out, and I think we can all learn a little bit of something from you. Maybe you can share these tips of how you're you're managing to do all this. Raise chillins, be a provider, and stay healthy. We'll have a philosopher's pit stops, a minstrel's musing. Our friend Bubba texts me from the road time to time and gives me little hints on life. I look up to him for all these old man sayings. Like vaginal blood fart. That's what we're all aiming for when we're old men is to have all these little quips that we can throw out to younger people. And they go, I'm just a crazy old man. But that does make sense. He's got a lot of those. Young whippersnapper.
Mhmm. That kind of thing. Permaculture practitioners mastering more than the material. We've spoken a lot about the eight forms of capital on the PMM shows and action news shows. I'm sure Rev Hoddle, Carl, has spoken to people in his sphere on Noster. I know he gives classes on the, 8 forms of capital. You recently did an interview with him that should come out before this episode. Is that correct, Matt? It should. Yeah. Actually, not even that recently. We recorded, like, a month ago. We'll move on to talk about disaster preparedness, plebs mobilizing, and mitigate mismanagement.
You know, we've had a couple of hurricanes here in the United States, and perhaps we can game plan some things we should do if we have a natural disaster. Might not always be hurricanes. It could be, zombie apocalypse.
[00:06:38] Unknown:
Floods? Or zombie apocalypse. Could be that. Or zombie apocalypse. I think that's really the one that we're all hoping for. It would, in a weird way, be quite fun. Yeah. We all deep down kind of hope it happens.
[00:06:53] Unknown:
Are you a 28 days later
[00:06:55] Unknown:
kind of zombie apocalypse lover, or you you prefer them to be a little slower? I kinda like Shaun of the Dead would be quite a nice level. So you you're going for funny zombies. Well, they're not funny. They're quite scary in Shaun of the Dead. But just they're a bit slow and stupid, but they'll still fuck you up. Or what's the other one? What was the one relatively recent comedy where they have zombies, and they have that, like, little kid guy who played the Facebook founder in that film? Someone will know. Someone will listen to this and know.
[00:07:29] Unknown:
Yes. Okay. His name is Jesse something, is it not? And they're, like, gonna in Las Vegas. That's it. Yeah. Okay. I'm a 28 days later kind of guy. I've never seen it. Is it good? Oh, yeah. That's good. And it's proper British. Yeah. Is it? Yeah, buddy. Sure. They start an old London town. Hello.
[00:07:49] Unknown:
Hello. Alright, governor.
[00:07:54] Unknown:
Oh, nobody around. Alright, mate. Carry on.
[00:07:57] Unknown:
Yeah. It would be fun. It'd be less fun in the UK than it would be in America because you've got all the guns. You'd have much more fun doing it that way. You've got more space as well. Like, I feel like you'd be a bit confined here. They find their way to you Yeah. Unless you found your way into the woods and were quite smart and stealthy, then you'd fuck them up. But, you know, you're gonna have to rely on things like chainsaws and axes and things like that. You gotta get up close. Saws.
[00:08:24] Unknown:
Axes.
[00:08:25] Unknown:
Got it. Mhmm. You gotta destroy the brains apparently.
[00:08:30] Unknown:
That's my understanding. It's pretty universal amongst zombies that their brains must be destroyed. Okay. Okay. Very well. Well, we're gonna cover some of that. We're also going to go over to pernicious money, Muriel and the Masters of Manipulation. We'll cover Charles Muriel article where he exposes how a small elite, including the US government and major financial players, are manipulating Bitcoin infrastructure and media to consolidate control.
[00:08:54] Unknown:
Is that what they're doing? Is that what this recent pump is all about? Well, I'm not sure about the pump, but it definitely feels like they're trying to get their dirty little claws around the media. Yeah. Definitely trying to control the narrative, which is fine, but it seems like a lot of people are going along with it, which is not fine. That's not fine. That's fine.
[00:09:15] Unknown:
Peter, it's good it's good to hear from you. So, okay. That's fine. Oh, well, if you say so, we have a a special guest here in, Sarah and I's household. Oh. Oh. Special special guest. Special needs? He is special needs indeed, but also a special guest. Say hi. Howdy, fellas. There you go. You know who that is? Oh, I don't know. It definitely sounds special. Can I hear it again? He'd like to hear it again. Max, you're a cheeky cunt.
[00:09:48] Unknown:
I know who that is. Is he got a lovely beard? He has a lovely beard. You're you've nailed it. But it's not Barnminer. It's the only other creature with a lovely, lovely beard. He has a real beard, unlike Barnminer's clean shaven. He just has a little goat beard hanging out the bottom. This is a real man's beard. He still pisses on it though. Yes. Indeed.
[00:10:08] Unknown:
We have we all eat Chet in the house. It's come up with all of these. We we on our beds. He ate last night. We had some roast. And I think Sarah this morning is making some bacon. Did you have bacon out there? No. Coffee. Just coffee. So that Bittmeyer. That's correct. Just Otis Bittmeyer coffee in the house. Does he have it with lots of cream and sugar? No. I'm just a black coffee kinda guy. Oh, my type of man. You know, I was listening to you guys you and Q's show the other day. Somebody had said something about black coffee and like, oh, I can't do black coffee's voice. And I've always thought black coffee sounded like Paul McCartney. He does. Yeah. Oh, it's me, black coffee, mate.
[00:10:49] Unknown:
And he's always very, like, nonchalant about just doing incredible stuff. Oh, yeah. Mate, I just, you know, I just did it. I just knocked it together. Just really casual about things that I couldn't achieve in my lifetime that he just bashes out in the morning. Black coffee, can you create a bot that takes the show transcript and finds the most interesting things and has it do posts on Nostra and have that cross integrate. Oh, yeah. Sure, mate. We love you, black coffee. Thank you so much. You're too cool. So what's Chet doing lurking around your house? That's worrying. He just came for a visit. Just loitering.
[00:11:22] Unknown:
I've got a special thing I've been working on for the past few months, which you're well aware of. I'm well aware of that. He wanted to come check out check out my thing, see if he can Okay. Can help me out. I'm sure he can. I'm sure he can too. Well, after we talk oh, the here's the reason I brought up Chet at this time. It's because this Charles Mariel article that we're going to read. You know, we're talking about the recent price pump, and a lot of people in the US government are now pro crypto. I thought it just doesn't feel as cool anymore. Nope. We used to be so cool. I'm going back to fiat money. Yeah. I'm gonna go and buy the S and P. You know, I heard the dollar is the new Bitcoin.
It's a word on the streets. You might be on something there, mate. Mhmm. Bonds. Paying cash. You know what I mean? Mhmm. Hey. I wanna buy that lawnmower. Will you take $30? Okay. Sure. And I gave him cash. Nobody knew about it. Oh, man. That's gonna trigger some people. I hope at least. I hope so. Controversy is good. Then we'll round out the show with the PMM mission to build meaningful relationships, because that's what this show is all about. Like ours. Yeah. How we pine for each other in the middle of the night. Yep. And Chet's,
[00:12:35] Unknown:
so much so that he's actually made his way to your house. He couldn't wait to see you.
[00:12:41] Unknown:
He pined so hard. Well, other people are pining for us, and they don't necessarily call us in the middle of the night or come over to visit. They send us podcasting 2.0 boosts, like Renickman, who boosted 44,444 sats. He says, very interesting topic, gentlemen. Thanks. I've been trying to get my hands on raw milk, but living in Miami, it can be challenging. They call that leche there. You see? Nice. I remember my childhood summers in Russia. We had raw milk delivery straight from the farmer himself twice a week. My grandpa used to drink a glass of it before my grandma boiled it. Pasteurize, he put that in in hyphens. For anyone a bit slow. Yeah. We had chickens, rabbits, fruits, and vegetables in our backyard.
The good old days. My soul wants this from my retirement. I can feel that. The simple countryside life, growing your own food, buying from local people only. Any recommendations for a state or city where I could potentially look into nice, quiet retirement and not in the middle of nowhere? Laughing face. Thanks again for another great episode from the most ungovernable hosts. Rock and roll, you know, sign with your pinky and finger and thumb. Then he says, fucking fountain. Won't let me send the amount I want, F f s. Hey. What does F f s mean? For fuck's sake.
Oh, I'm just not up on all that stuff for some reason. Mhmm. He says, Max, don't be a cunt. Oh. And try raw milk. What's the worst that can happen? Wisteria. Yeah. That's apparently what we came came down with. You will puke while you're shitting on John. Oh. I think that's gross. Please say whatever you want about man, minor, that little goat. You get me weak every single time. Dead. Dead. Dead. Thank you, Renickman. Yeah. Thank you, Renick. Hey. Can I say something about the raw milk episode? Yeah. I was talking to our producer, Jordan, the other day. I know we were just talking about the show and different things. And I said, you know, I had a lot more things that I wanted to say about raw milk, but fuck's in Max rabbit hole me on asking me all these questions about is it really safe and and this and that. Mhmm. And, Jordan's like, oh, my wife said that was the best part of the show is that you guys disagree. Me. Yep.
[00:15:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Always. I'm so glad that British man is pushing back on this ludicrous nonsense that he's, he's pushing is the best bit.
[00:15:12] Unknown:
When he questions things. Yeah. And I I thought to draw I guess you're right. Yeah. The balance.
[00:15:17] Unknown:
You sold me enough that I have sent an email as a local creamery, which, may do some raw milk. So I've reached out and asked, and I did that yesterday. Oh, how very neat. Yes. I haven't heard back yet, but we'll see. Well, enjoy your listeria,
[00:15:37] Unknown:
asshole.
[00:15:40] Unknown:
I'll be fine. Like I say, I have a technique for this. Lie down in the bath, shit yourself, and vomit with the shower running, and it all cleans off you, and you can lie there for hours while you're vomiting and shitting and sweating. Gross. Yeah. Well, it's a good technique though because it's better otherwise, you think, right. What do I do? You have to have a small enough bathroom where you can, like, sit on the toilet, but also reach and, like, crane your neck to try and vomit into the sink, but then it all gets stuck in the sink? Or do you put your head in the toilet and shit on the floor? No. You lie in the bath, you do your business, put the shower on, you're good to go. And you're lying down. And when you're feeling sick, you think, oh, I wish I could lie down. You do it all. Okay.
Cool story, bro. You you feel sick in your own mouth now. Okay. That image. Mhmm. That image of me doing that. John's never even seen me, but he knows that it'd be a disgusting image. Yeah. I was saying that to my missus, yesterday. I was like, me and John have actually never actually seen children's faces. Well, I've seen yours. No. You've seen my face. I've seen your face. Yeah. Beautiful face. It is a beautiful face. It's the rest of it that's the problem. And your wife says,
[00:16:52] Unknown:
Max Mhmm. The fuck is wrong with you? She
[00:16:56] Unknown:
has a fucking list. It's an extremely long list. But, yeah, one day. One day, we will embrace. It will be nice. It'd be so nice, wouldn't it? Not gay. No home No. Not in a gay way. No fucking way. You know, in, like, a cartoon or something where, like, people hug and then, like, all this lightning just, like, goes Oh, yeah. That kind of thing. There's so much energy in the room that it's just like It'll probably be too much for us to handle. We'll be blown back. Yeah. Woah. Bro, did that just happen? Someone will, like, harness the energy and mine with it.
[00:17:30] Unknown:
Uh-huh. That's it. Mhmm. When I get this whole project built, that's when you're coming over. You're gonna, like, throw the switch like Frankenstein. Infinite trion alive. Alright. Read your boosts. Okay.
[00:17:46] Unknown:
Late stage huddle. I'm imagining Max with an actual torch searching for his dog, like back in medieval times, or maybe it's just a flashlight, thinking emoji. Oh, and since all boosts need to be cars and Tekken related, then I'll say I never played Tekken. What a bitch. Mortal Kombat was my jam. Sure. I guess, but more Goldeneye first person shooter type. Did you ever get into Goldeneye? I never did,
[00:18:18] Unknown:
but I know, you know, it's a ColdWise.
[00:18:20] Unknown:
Big thing. Yeah. It was a big thing. And I used to have a 1979 Bronco. That was so much fun. Oh. But kids are more fun, so how to sell it years ago. Wish I had bought Bitcoin back then when I sold the damn thing, though. Yeah. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Yeah. More stats, just a request that y'all do an entire episode of acting like each other, praying emoji. John speaking like Max and Max speaking like John, just insulting the shit out of each other. American and UK for the whole episode. UK versus America. We'll think about it. Yeah. We'll see. Totally, man. Yeah. That sounds so awesome.
I'm so happy about everything, man. Americans don't sound anything like that, mate. You Americans. Americans.
[00:19:16] Unknown:
Who's this cunt next? Well, hold on. You've got him there. Why doesn't he waddle himself in and read his own boost? He left the room. When I asked him to talk on the mic just, you know, a few minutes ago, he, like, waved me off. And then we made him talk twice, then he left. He's out he's out there with Sarah having breakfast. He ran away. I knew this was gonna happen too. It would have been quite nice to have him redesign boost. I asked him last night. I said, you should be on the show. I'd read your own boost. No. No. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
[00:19:49] Unknown:
So should I just read it, or do we do we think that we might rope him in later and we save it? Like, will he get curious? Go, oh, I wonder what John's doing. No. Probably not. Sarah's much better company. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a tough one. It's a tough one. We'll leave it for now. We'll leave it. We'll leave it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Rod Palmer. Got raw milk, question mark. Working on it, mate. Mhmm. Indeed.
[00:20:11] Unknown:
Up next, we have our friend Bubba from the road freewheelin'. Love that bitch. My square body 1987 f 150 is the best damn truck I have ever owned. Transport vans are for gays and pedos. There we go. Yeah. There you go. He told you, didn't he? Cowboy smiling face, a bunch of faces. Bunch of faces. Speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil, no. This was an interesting show, not the best chuckle factor, but a lot of good enzyme talk. I'm a goat milk lover myself. The smaller fat globs are easier for my Asian wife who is very lactose intolerant. You should smell the proof.
I'd love to know if he plays this show on headphones in the truck or he's playing it over, you know, all of the audio in the truck, because he's gonna get his ass beat. I think he's playing it overall the audio. I like to think that his wife listens to the show as well. I think I think she might. She's a sweetheart. I can tell you that. She was really great. Balances it out. I don't know why she married him. Yin and Yang, isn't it? Something like that. Then he says, stay gay, my friends. Very well. Well, we've talked about hugging each other a lot and singing songs, so I think we've achieved, you know, heightened levels of gay in this episode already. I think so. He then says, oh, I almost forgot. Fuck fountain and nostril centralizing your way to a fag ass circle jerk together, ostrichs with their heads in the sand. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.
And
[00:21:49] Unknown:
fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck. Oh. Been a lot of hate on fountain recently. There's 2 complaints. Another person yesterday reached out to me saying, I won't dox who it is, but I was trying to send a load of sats. It kept failing. It wasn't coming through to my node, blah blah blah. And they're like, fuck this shit. I'm doing XMR chat. Mhmm. Mhmm.
[00:22:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Annoying a lot of people. Well, in these boosts alone, we've got Renek Renekman and Bubba. Next up is. I'm just recovering from my tinnitus tinnitus after a day at the indoor playground listening to a podcast, drinking a decent beer in between, and guess where I passed on the way home from every parent's hell? At a local farmer's milk vending machine. I drink it, but some of it is processed into butter and buttermilk. The skim milk into cottage cheese. By the way, Max, you cunt. Please pronounce my name correct. Wink, po jen mies.
K. How many times, a month do you think our listeners call you a cunt? 21,000,000. Indeed. It's often. It's not scarce.
[00:22:58] Unknown:
It's not scarce. No. It's abundant. It is indeed limitless, one might say. Well, thank you pajamas. I appreciate that.
[00:23:08] Unknown:
He says, PS, at McDonald's, Happy Meal offers fat free milk that is enriched with vitamin d and, of course, lactose free. It tastes like water from a toilet, shower, poop,
[00:23:20] Unknown:
but at least it looks like milk. Yeah. Well, he's got a flag there. What is that flag? McDonald's. It's at McDonald's. It's a white flag with a blue cross. What is
[00:23:32] Unknown:
it? Yeah. Maybe. It doesn't come across on mine. Yeah.
[00:23:38] Unknown:
Sorry. I just thought I'd mention it. There is a flag there. You might be right. Finland, maybe. Fundamentals
[00:23:44] Unknown:
haven't listened yet, but I like the title. Well, thank you. Thank you, mate. So, Lex, this show just brings hope into this world.
[00:23:54] Unknown:
Whereas some other pods just talk along with whomever brings them the best benefits. Max and John even don't blindly agree on milk. By the way, John, how about we all use metric system and you can have the Fahrenheit? We will adopt that. Nice middle ground, isn't it?
[00:24:15] Unknown:
No. No. Americans will never budge. Sorry.
[00:24:20] Unknown:
Someone thinks they're all hard now. Because they got the new man in office. Yeah. You're damn right, pal.
[00:24:26] Unknown:
We're gonna dominate the rest of the world with our imperial measurement system that came from Great Britain. Yeah.
[00:24:34] Unknown:
We're gonna make Great Britain great again too. I saw someone share it. First thing about that. What was the the hats you wore not mago. Yeah. Mago. Make America great again. I saw someone had, like, mega, like, make Europe great again. Good luck. Yeah. Well, that's fucked. Impossible. Do you know what, though? There are some lovely places in Europe. It's just the government that gets in the way. Sure. There's some very nice places around here. Very, very nice. I've always wanted to to to visit there. You know, you can get I can get, like,
[00:25:06] Unknown:
Italian
[00:25:07] Unknown:
citizenship Can you? If I have Italians. Yeah. Just because you eat so much pasta. Yeah. That's what they say. This guy is eating enough slices of pizza and enough pasta that he is basically Italian.
[00:25:20] Unknown:
Hey, Pizana. Come in. You eat a lot of the pasta.
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I had pasta for breakfast today. There was no food in the house. We just come back from a weekend away. How very British. Yeah. Well, we had, dried pasta in the store cupboard. We had tins of tuna and then, like, a little tin of chopped tomatoes, and then, like, there was nothing else in the whole house. I was like, this is me for breakfast till, like, 7 this morning. Chu tuna. Tuna. Yeah. A tin of tuna. With just pasta and just, like, tomato sauce, and then it just tasted so fucking bland that I just nailed a shitload of salt on it and smashed it in my face. Like a hobo. Pretty much. Bulking, mate. Bulking. Bulking. Shadrach.
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Just a cigarette. It's a milk, miffy garden. Ape mithran deer. Got milk? Question mark.
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Pies at a plerb.
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Hey. Chingity ching.
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Boyaka. Boyaka. Beers, mushroom, salute, strong-arm, rock and roll, gun, rocket, America equals number 1, gold, you. England You. And Fuck the Brit. Great Britain equals
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shit. Fucked up, Brits. Sorry. So racist. I got pumped up.
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Loved the ODB outro.
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Yeah, baby. I like it raw. Yeah, baby. I like it raw. Yeah, baby. I like it raw.
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With Puerto Rican hoos. Hoos.
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Artists over some dead hoos.
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Fomomatronic. Awesome. Max, you are the man. You hear that? But you're
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also a bit of a milk cuck. There you go. If you're not a cunt, you're a cuck.
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Take your leap, you cigarettes. Oh, I guess I guess what he means is take your leave,
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you cigarette, you fag. No. Take no? Yes. You got the fag part right. Take a leap. Take a leap. Like, a leap. Oh, take a leap. Okay. Yeah. Take a leap, you cigarette. Okay. I mean, Dick Greaser has brought so much to this show. You know, not only do we read articles, but now the British funny talking fag.
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A I b l e. Another great episode. Perhaps another point to sway brother Max would be how milk has been completely commoditized in most western countries. If you ever look up excess milk dumped, it's quite jarring and very fiat to see some practices used in the west to enact price controls that this is somehow for the betterment of our families seems unbelievable. Good point. It is unbelievable because it can't be believed because it is fucking mental.
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Yeah. Thank you very much. Asic instructions before leaving the Earth.
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Yes.
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Like, that would be that would be me leaving the Earth, and I've left my 8th instructions. Yeah.
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So like a helicopter's trying to Can't you just go up to heaven like everybody else just float up? You eat so much pasta, you gotta have a fucking helicopter straining to get you up there. Not fat. Dense. Thick.
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The 2 c's. T h I c.
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I'm thick.
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Yeah. That's what I am. Moving on. The orange lighter. Our local health food shop in Australia has raw milk, which legally has to be marketed as bath milk. Oh. Duh fuck?
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Bath milk. What's the name? Who's it who used to bathe in asp's milk? Cleopatra? Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Oh. They're probably just like, oh, well, what's another thing that people do with milk? That maybe? Because there's a precedent for it. That's how it works with all, like, legal stuff, isn't it?
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My raw milk lady does it for dogs and cats. That's the you could pick up. If you have a a herd share like I do Mhmm. You know, I own a percentage of her dairy herd. And so therefore I'm entitled to x amount of milk from that dairy herd based on the percentage that I own. But otherwise, like the onesie twosies that she sells, it says for cats and dogs.
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Yeah. Yeah. But this is kind of, safer to do it that way saying that it's in a bath. Yeah. Like, nobody's even consuming it. No one's even consuming it, and you could think like, what would the government potentially do? Alright. Dogs and cats have drank it. Well, they'll probably roll up and be like, right. We need to euthanize your cat and dog. Because it's got listeria. Yeah. It's it's a danger that could spread. Like, woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. It doesn't spread like that. No. No. Just they have to wear a mask, and then while they're wearing a mask, we're gonna put them down. It's for the safety of the country. I mean, we joke, but it's the sort of stupid shit they would do. So it's better just to say, just I'm having a bath in it, mate. We're using it as toilet water. I flush the fucking toilet with it. That's what I do with that. That's okay. Very well. Yeah. We accept. Yeah. Well, he says this bath milk ranges from $11
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to $15 Aussie for 2 liters. Oh, Australia's expensive though. Well, I also have no idea how much 2 liters is. He says, fuck knows what this is in gallons or USD or pounds.
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It's just less than a half of a gallon. There you go. Thank you. You're the middle ground here. You know that? Yeah. A gallon's 5 liters. It would be, like, nearly $40, a gallon. For 2
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no. No. You're wrong. It'd be No. I'm not wrong.
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Mother fuck. Yeah. You're right. Well, what's 2 times 15 is 30 and then 30. Not quite 40, but, you know, $35 a a gallon.
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Fuck me running, pal.
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That's the price I pay for diesel. Jeez. Yeah.
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Disgusting. Anyway Mhmm. He says, and stop being a pussy. You're more likely to die from a respiratory virus than from drinking raw milk. Okay. Okay. Bitcoin Huddl says thanks for the Got Milk Show today. Good info and some good laughs from you both as usual. And I don't I can't is that a he's wearing a beret and a heart? Is he French? No. No. It's not a beret. It's just doing a little salute and then a purple heart. Oh, it's the salute. What's salute back to you? It's veterans day, and yesterday was marine corps birthday. So I'm in a real saluting mood lately. And after this, Jet and I are gonna go out to all of the, the breakfast places and get free stuff for veterans day. Does that happen?
Mhmm. Yeah. Now these, you know, Denny's free breakfast. You go to Lone Star Steakhouse, you get a free lunch, You get free donut. You go to all these different places and you get free stuff. Is Chet ex veteran as well or is he just eating? He was in the air force.
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Of course he was.
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Mhmm. He's a fly boy. He's not in there. He'd, like, punch me. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I was just thinking he's definitely far enough away. Yeah. Then I the fly boy. Well, thank you very much, everyone for the wonderful boost that totaled about 250,000 sats for our raw milk episode of PMM. Thank you. As we move on, we're gonna talk about Pleb Merchant Minute. This, minute is brought to you by Merndurky. He preserves his meats by peeing on them with his little goat pee, and that preserves the meat. No. That's terrible. He get he gets grass fed top round cap, and he he is dedicated to this. It's gotta be, like, from a a local grass fed person.
Nice. He he's not going on the interwebs and just ordering some beef or going down to Publix and and, getting some supposed grass fed beef. He he really does try to support actual farmers. So from the beginning of this, you're getting very high quality beef. Mhmm. Then he marinated it in organic cane sugar, Himalayan sea salt. Gotta be from the Himalayas. There's no there's no other way of it. Yeah. Organic black pepper, organic cayenne pepper, organic paprika, organic garlic powder, crushed red pepper, organic basil, gluten free tamari soy sauce, and fish sauce.
Not bad. He mostly sells this to friends. That's the key, I think, that he that he's really, like, done a great job compared to anybody else that sells this pleb stuff is now everybody depends on it. You know, Chet, like orders 10 bags of jerky at a time. I usually order 5 to 10 bags. It's all eaten by the time he does another round. And then as the process goes along, he posts up on, hey, it's this on Twitter. If you guess right, how much weight this is going to be, you know, post, jerky ing, you get sats or a free bag or something like that. His marketing is is excellent. You want it. You're out of it, and you need fucking more. And then he just happens to time it so right. Oh, marinating some jerky today. A little birdie told me you wanted more.
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Scarcity.
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Yeah. He's figured it out. And, you know, crack dealers have the same strategy. Do they? Yeah. They get you hooked. Another thing that Barnes does in this spirit of, being a true pleb is he donates some of the profits of his jerky to causes he believes in, like Ungovernable Misfits. He has donated, some of those proceeds to our organization, so we can put on excellent content like PMM and the Bitcoin Brief and the Con Fab
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and Action news. Whenever we're struck and we think, oh, we just don't think we can afford this anymore. He's always like, I go to.
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You're the king of puns. If you would like to, stay abreast of the happenings in the barn jerky world, you can visit barnjerky.hashrootsinc.io. And it only ships to the United States.
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Shame.
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No. Oh, well. But if you live in Canada, you can get it from Alberta HODL. Does something similar up there. So that's what we need, decentralization of pleb goods.
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We need someone in Europe for beef jerky. I'd buy beef jerky. Yeah. Such great product.
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So that's what I think that's what we're exporting here is ideas and Mhmm. A movement for you to produce this stuff yourself and distribute it locally. These mesh to Dell nodes can distribute amongst each other in that way. Canada's got your own barn jerky guy. United States, we've got the real deal. UK. Have black coffee do it. Yeah. Maybe. You know? He hasn't got enough going on. Nope. Hey, black coffee. Can you, start making jerky? Oh, sure, mate. They're going to make
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it. Done.
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I'm just gonna have some water. I've had 12,000 coffees today. I'm past the limit of what you should should ever think about having. Okay. That's some good water.
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Some good Welsh water, that is. Oh, okay. All the way from Wales. Yeah. Are you familiar with this term structured water? No. So This is like water that comes from a spring. It comes from the Earth. It has a different molecular structure than, like, city water. Yeah. We'll have to have Carl give us a breakdown of structured water. Or maybe even Chet, who's not still not in here. Chet lives by this, like, famous spring where you can just go and get water that just trickles down, you know, the rocks into the spring. And he brings it everywhere with him. When I went to visit him at the mine, he even took me up there. He was he's so proud of this. That's amazing. Structured water spring that they have in Kentucky. If you have to live in a city and you have to filter your water, like, we filter our water here, which nothing, like, special. Just one of these shitty Brita filter things. Mhmm. But the difference,
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if I am used to drinking after it's been filtered and then I taste the tap water here, I'm like, oh, fucking hell. Tastes like chemicals. Mhmm. Tastes like a swimming pool.
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Yeah. It's horrible. That does sound horrible. Nice freshwater
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stream. That would be delightful. Much better for you without all the fluoride and all that shit in there. Yeah. Disgusting.
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Well, hopefully, soon in the United States, we'll be getting rid of that fluoride shit in our water system poisoning our people. Maybe. RFK Jr. Is on it. Anyway, moving on to producers, Mastodon marketing. We've spoken before quite a bit about, what we're gonna do, this mind coffee coffee warmer from altairtech. Io. That is not going to be in production, but that started a conversation and an idea that we've spoken about a few times on the show is coupling that with perhaps Otis Bittmeyer's coffee. And boy, isn't that cozy? Why don't we have a candle made from another one of our ungovernable misfit friends who owns a candle company? And, oh, fall is coming and toasty winter time. Fall.
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Fall. Mother fucking
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cunt. This is why everybody calls you a cunt, you know,
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by the way. You are. This is a very good description.
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Con?
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I was on a I was on a roll there. Funnel. Autumn. Think about being cozy in autumn. The leaves are cascading down from the sky, covering the earth
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warm tones of orange and red.
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You've got a hot fire on the fireplace. You want nothing more than a hot cup of coffee.
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From Otis Bittmeyer. So we thought about this idea, like, Otis can't just produce coffee all the time and have a giant stock. He has a life to live as much as he loves roasting coffee beans and shipping them out to other plebs to pretty much cover his costs, we thought, how can we have people do more than just cover their costs? Pay for their time also. The preorder model seemed to make sense to us. If you know how much you need to produce, you can produce it based on a preorder and ship it out. And then hopefully that gains traction much like Barn Miners Jerky has done where people are anticipating this. It's a kind of timed basis. Oh, shit. I'm out of coffee. Oh, shit. I'm out of jerky. Oh, shit. I need clothing to cover my body and my family's body. I might need a a hoodie because it's getting colder because of autumn. In winter, am I allowed to say winter?
You got another fucking word for that? No. Winter is fine. K. The cold season. Exactly. And since we can't do this globally as Ungovernal Misfits has found out over the years, unless you're drop shipping you know, you have T shirt suppliers in the UK, and you have T shirt suppliers in the EU, and you have it in North America, and you just drop ship those orders, and they print one off right away. It's very difficult to make any kind of profit selling internationally at this pleb level. Yeah. Drop shipping easy,
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quality low. Yep. Yeah. Being able to time things and not hold too much stock is is a massive, massive win for smaller businesses. Everybody is going to buy snacks every month for themselves and their family. That snack can be beef jerky. Everybody is going to buy coffee. You
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don't have to get moldy pesticide, chemical ridden coffee from the grocery store. You can get delicious, organic, freshly roasted coffee from Otis Bittmeyer. What's your coffee budget? What's your snack budget? Raw milk, eggs, beef. Try to source as much as of this stuff locally. If we had better networks, perhaps those things could be plebified as well in a local node of the larger. Start thinking about your family budgets and see what you can do to pivot out of the system and into something plebby, something mesh to del like. So in the very least, this iteration of this meshconomy thing that we have going on, we've got 2 bags of Otis Bittmeyer freshly roasted coffee, a handmade candle from one of our Ungovertible Misfit friends, and a hoodie from Ungovertible Misfits.
What's the price point on all of this? I believe it's around $100. Did we have this discussion the other day, Max, in that group? I'm super tapped out on all of this stuff as you know. Yeah.
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I know. Yeah. We did. I said that we would do a bit of a discount on the hoodies just to lose a little bit more. Yeah. So they're 50 we're trying to avoid. I think everyone else was doing a little bit of a discount as well. I can't remember what the total figure was off the top of my head. Maybe we can put that in the show notes.
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Yeah. Let's do that in the show notes, but it's around a $100. Yeah. So you get this little care package for a $100 and you're supporting your blood friends. And you're getting some delicious coffee and you're getting I said that all New Yorkie. You're getting some delicious coffee. You're gonna love it. Coffee,
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hoodie, jerky,
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candle. Candle. You're not getting jerky. I know. I know. I know. No. Fuck's sake. Why not? But we might next run. But you know who is hosting this website that we're going to do because it it's super simple. Like, it's bar miner. It's his Hashroots website. So it is going to be, it's part of my clicking here, everybody. It is going to be Burn Meiner, where are you, friend? Here it is. Meshconomy.hashrootsinc.iomeshconomy.hashrootsinc dot I o. I like it. Go to his simple website there. That's simple URL and, preorder and prepay for this. And then so what we're gonna do, this is the the the cheapest method that we can think of is once we know how much of this stuff we need to produce, we will produce it. Everybody will ship it to me. My family will pack it up in a little box, and we'll put a little kiss on it. And, we'll we'll mail it off to you with love.
So perhaps with this, this can extend beyond, and and we can use Barnes mesh economy little website, and we can do more of these things. Perhaps somebody will be inspired and do this in the UK or the EU or Canada or Australia, wherever or China. I assume
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Barn only accepts Lightning.
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I actually don't know what he it's Lightning and, on chain. And he has this little calculator, like, you put in how much you want the, the invoice to generate at. It it works very well. Okay. Fine. I I can attest. I've as I've ordered a lot of Martin Jerky. If you can't grow your own food, if you can't roast your own coffee, if you're not interested in making your own beef jerky, well, that's that's fine. There are plenty of people out there that can do those kinds of things, but they're simple. There's things that you're able to do at home. Things that you're probably not able to do at home is build your own body armor. Do your own TIG welding, have your own metal laser sintering, but we know somebody that does Bifrost Manufacturing.
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Oh, yeah.
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Bifrost Manufacturers. We come from the lands of ice and snow. In Grand Forks, North Dakota, don't you know. It's our friends, Bifrost Manufacturing. Speaking to them recently, you know, they play with a lot of things Mhmm. In their their imagineers in the imagineerium at Bifrost manufacturing, and they have been screwing around with body armor. We wanted to talk about this before, and then Yeah. Aaron said, no. Don't talk about body armor. It's too proprietary and
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secret squirrel kind of shit. We did the best segment, I think, we've ever done.
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I had it all edited and ready, and I was so I was so happy for it to go out because I was like, this is one of the best things we've ever done. Nope. He said no. He says there's the phrase in there I don't want you to mention. So we won't mention it. Okay? Fine. But I've been bugging him ever since that I want to talk about the fact that they are developing a new kind of body armor that can be manufactured for a good price, and it is new technology. Kevlar has been around forever now and the majority of body armor is some sort of Kevlar or it is these, you know, hardened steel plates which could potentially be heavy.
People do this 3 d printed body armor thing. Have you seen that? Don't think I have. I think the idea there is that the print is all, crazy like. Mhmm. You know, not a a specific kind of structure. Right. And that's so when the bullet goes in It, like, rebounds and moves, sort of like Yeah. It itself up kind of thing. Yeah. Because of the crazy structure that it's printed on. So what Bifrost has done is taken different types of material beyond just printed stuff, but also other cheaper liquid type stuff. I think this is the part that I'm not supposed to say. Okay. To create Maybe you don't say?
Right. Well, I didn't. Okay.
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I thought you were gearing up for it. I think this is the bit I'm not supposed to say. So what they're doing is
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wait, John. Don't say it. Don't say what Bifrost manufacturing is up to. They're making bodies of arms. And things. They're doing stuffs and things. I'm not going out on a limb when I say this. This is what I've been telling everybody my thoughts on this recent election in the United States. Some are saying this is going to be a new republic in the United States, that this is the beginning of a golden age. And I would venture to say that when you're $35,000,000,000,000 in debt, there's no new industrial revolution. There's no new technology.
There's nothing that's going to happen that is going to stop this economic collapse coming to Western civilization, in my opinion. Cheerful. That's what people cheer in for, mate. But what I think this election has done when and the reason being is we've elected a populist here in the United States. He's not going to do the things that are actually necessary. We have to get rid of our entitlement system. It's gotta go away. Like, right fucking now, it absolutely has to go away. Social Security. Well, paid into my Social Security. My entire life, that's my I earned the Social Security. Okay. Yeah. You really earned 30 years of getting money from the government because you paid in a few $1,000. It's it's a pittance. It's a pyramid scheme. How are you? You don't fucking know this by now.
All entitlements have to completely fucking go away, and that's that's not gonna happen. So we've been given a few more years to prepare ourselves to work on our 8 forms of capital, to work on hardening our families. And I like that Bifrost does things like let's develop some body armor. Things are great. Now now's the time to prepare. Now's the time to prepare for collapse
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in a way. It's like, we can all be our own version of Batman because we've got them as like our what do they call a development arm in Batman? It's like they have a a separate secret underground place where they develop all the sort of stuff that's,
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that's not always secret underground. That is Lucius Fox, who does work for Wayne Enterprises.
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And Yes. I think they do most of the r and d at the Wayne Enterprises headquarters. That's right. Yeah. But no one gets their hands on it other than him. It it gets, like, hidden away. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. We have the opportunity to have Bifrost make that kind of cool shit for us. And when the corn is pumping and you're thinking, what can I spend this on? Do I want this gay Lambo that's gonna draw a load of attention? No. You don't. Do I want some really fucking cool body armor that could help me protect myself and my family? Oh, yes. I'll have a bit of that. Drone technology,
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aerospace engineering. They're doing all of that stuff at Bifrost Manufacturing. Perhaps you'd like to survey your pastures that you just made to prepare yourself for the coming socioeconomic collapse. For the zombies. For the zombies. Bifrost Manufacturing. So we can go two routes with this ad read here, zombie apocalypse
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or Batman. What about Batman in a zombie apocalypse? He'd do well. Fucking a.
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Fucking a. Nailed it. If you want to be Batman in a zombie apocalypse, you know how many zombie brains you can tear through with a Bifrost manufacturing crafted batarang? Oh. At 3.
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That's my guess. Okay. They could make you a Batmobile Mhmm. With, like, special things off the side where you could decapitate them as you drive past. You don't have to get out of the car. I'm loving it. Efficiency. Yeah. And now at least in the United States that, the woke era is ending, we can
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say unmanned drone. A dude's drone. Dude driven drone. Dude driven drone. Well, if you want to be a zombie slaying Batman character in your own post apocalyptic fantasy, start preparing right now with Bifrost Manufacturing. Bifrost Manufacturing
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dot com. Joe, I was gonna say, this is so niche. I actually don't think it is niche. Like, I think there's a lot of people who'd be listening to this. They're like, fuck yeah. I wanna be like Batman and decapitate a load of zombies and fly around in a drone, a dude drone. Yeah. So if you are one of those people, Bifrost manufacturing
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dotcom. And this just in Bifrost manufacturing has recently hired Lucius Fox away from Wayne Enterprises. Just in. They just posted it on LinkedIn. Congratulations,
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guys. On LinkedIn.
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Lucius Fox has updated his LinkedIn profile to say he is now employed by Bifrost Manufacturing. Congrats, man. Willing to work. Open to work. Hey, Max. You're, open to work out. This new transition in your life, you've become a freaking jacked monster dad who just takes his children up in each arm and just curls them day in and day out. Perhaps you'd like to to share some of your, guides to managing health and family. How do you do it, bro? Well,
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I would start with saying you need to think very carefully about what age group you're in. Mhmm. That is something I'm starting to realize is I do not train like I did 10 years ago. Here come the old jokes. But I'm being serious. I'm talking about myself here now. Obviously, you're further down that line, but now, like, a big part of what I'm doing is just not fucking getting injured. Mhmm. That's like my strategy is, like, I go as hard as I can physically go and starting to know my boundaries of, like, you go too much more here, mate. You're gonna fuck yourself up. There's a chance here of injury. Being able to be consistent rather than just going fucking mental, injuring myself, being out for 3, 4 months, having to have a load of rehab. And Mhmm. Like, so many times I've been in a stage where I'm like, I can't drive a fucking car without being in agony. Like, changing gear would be fucking agony because I throw my shoulder out or max fucks, and I can't lift anything. I'm just like stupid stuff where ego lifting and just like or getting, like, too hyped and angry and then just being like, just fucking go mental.
Now it's more consistency and eating everything in the world while I'm trying to get stronger. Like, not being a little bitch about it, just being like, I'm gonna fucking eat everything in the whole world. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, at the moment, like, just eating a lot, and I'm getting stronger quicker rather than being too much of, like, a fussy little bitch and being like, oh my god. I can't look at a carb. Would you prescribe that for for myself? I think so. As long as you're training hard enough. Mhmm. I'm getting in for an hour a day, 5 days a week. But when I am training, I do train really fucking hard. So I am using a lot of energy. So it's like, you know, I'll comfortably be eating, like, 5,000 calories a day at the moment. Get out of here. Yeah. Wow. But then I've put on, like, I don't know. What is it? In pounds? Like, £30?
Holy shit. I'm a little scared of you now. You just eat. I mean, there's a lot of it's fat as well, but you just eat and you get stronger. And then I'm not too concerned about, like you know, when I was younger, I was like, oh, I wanna get my fat percentage down. I wanna have the abs. I wanna, like, it look all like a certain way. And I was like, oh, I'll be a strong dad. Like, if someone wants to come into my house, they're going to get axed to death. You're gonna get that old man strength. The old man dad strength. And you've gotta have a little bit of a layer of something over the top of it. You know? It's a different sort of thing. I agree. Don't think that's particularly good advice, really. Try and sleep impossible when you're a dad with young kids Mhmm. And trying to work all the time. So try and get sleep, but you won't actually manage. And if you are managing, you're probably not working hard enough for what's coming. And then
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don't get injured. I don't know. Don't know what else to tell you, mate. How do you deal with the time? That's always been my biggest struggle. You know, I'm out of the door. It's 6 something in the morning. I don't get home till 5. I have my little outdoor, you know, gym that's supposed to be there. Like, I pull into the driveway and I'm supposed to look at that gym every day. Yeah. And go, don't you go in the house. Don't don't go in the house. Just go out there for real quick.
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I'm just gonna go tomorrow. I'm gonna get it tomorrow. How do you stay motivated to keep working out? Well, it's again, it's different for me because I'm working from the gym most days other than the days I'm recording. So I'll get to the gym at 6, and then I sit in the cafe, which is really uncomfortable, and edit and do all my other work from, like, 6 AM till about 1 PM, 2 PM. By that time, because I'm quite an ADD little cunt, like, I'm Yeah. Tearing my hair out. Like, I'm literally at the point where I'm like, I wanna scream, but I'm not allowing myself to move. Then at that point, I make myself a pre workout drink, which has got, like, a load of shit in it that makes me just, like, seriously fucking agitated and angry.
And then I just walk about 10 footsteps, and I'm in, like, quite a good gym with all the stuff that I would possibly need. And I just go mental for an hour, and then I'm like, fucked. I need to sit down. I'm like, oh, that's convenient because now I have to sit down, and now I have to work again. And then I work until I have to leave and then, you know, get on with the day. But if I didn't have the gym, I would genuinely go actually mental. So it's kind of like it's a break. I've I've set it up so that the workout is a break because the work I'm doing is so That's something actionable that we can get out of that. Mhmm. Is make your workout a break kind of thing rather than a another thing, a box in your day that you have to check. Yeah. Something you sort of look forward to because if you can make your work so frustrating or tedious to the point where you're gonna scream, that's when you go, fuck. I just wanna lift some weights. I just wanna go in there. Editing John's voice for 9 hours solid Woah. It's gonna be rough. Where you're literally sat with a mouse just fucking editing the same screen with the most boring audacity as the software that I use. It's like this dull, glitchy, grainy, shitty software, and you just think, fuck this. And then you run into the waste room, and you just tear it up. Okay. That's good advice.
Yeah. So find yourself a John. Yeah. Q and a as well with his fucking mouse clicking. You know? Mhmm. Mhmm. What else can I say? I'll find yourself a Jordan as well. You know, like someone who can phone you up and be like, right. We need to do this. We need to do that. This isn't good. You know what he's he's quite like, like a sort of matron, like a motherly sort of matron, isn't he? I was gonna say, I wasn't going to make him effeminate. I was gonna say taskmaster
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Yeah. Or masculine. He's a taskmaster.
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So many things that guys, you know, well done to some extent, but
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more so do better. And here's the ways that you need to do better. He does have the, yeah, do better kind of thing. Yeah. He doesn't he he doesn't put too much pressure on me. No? Mm-mm. He's pretty cool with me. It's just you he's got a problem with. Yeah. That's it. I thought he's gonna chime in now. Actually, John, I needed you to do this, and you didn't. But, yeah, that's that's my, that's my advice. Don't get injured.
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Find something where it can it can be a break effectively. Like, you use it as an outlet for, like, kids are winding you up. Mhmm. Work is winding you up. The general chat in the Bitcoin rooms and people all being fucking cucks is winding you up. Soak in all that energy, soak in all that anger, soak in everything that you can, and you use that as energy to focus. Put all that bad energy, that negative energy to use as something positive, which is I'm gonna move a lot of weight around a room, and that's gonna make me stronger. Make it your escape. Yeah. It it is. It really is an escape. Alright. I feel motivated, but I do this all the time, you know, every couple weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm gonna do it. Do you know what we should do is we should somehow find a way to share our routines again? Because I was doing that for a while, wasn't I? And we were both doing it. We were both doing it. Yeah. But then, do you know what? I got this little app on my phone. It's like a little tracker app thing where I would put my you can share what your workouts are with people. But I'd put all my workouts in there. Be like, oh, I'm doing dead lifts, and I'm doing this, and I'm doing this, and I'm doing this for 12 sets. I'm doing this as a but I found after a while, it was good to get back into it because I was just so unfit. But I got to a point where I was like, this is kind of pissing me off because I'm spending more time, like, on my phone tracking and writing. Yeah. I've done 12 of those, and I've done this until that. And it sort of was just getting me out of my zone.
So a workout was, like, taking, like, 2 hours. And I was like, I don't have time for this. So now it's more I just go, right. Today, I'm training, like, whatever. If I'm training, like, back today, then I'll go, okay. I know roughly I'm gonna be doing these, like, 10 exercises. And it's not like, oh, I'm gonna do 12, and then I'm gonna do 10, and then I'm gonna do 8. And then it's just I'm gonna go as hard as I can without it starting to be like, this is a problem, and I just keep doing that. And then if I'm like, oh, fuck. I'm getting a bit of a twinge here or I'm getting a bit of a problem here, I go, right. I'll move on to something else, and I'll go as hard as I can on that, and then I'll circle back to it. Sometimes it's just like exhaustion of a certain part. It's better. I get more done than tracking it with a little app. John's actually, left the room to go and work out. He's so motivated.
He's gone. He's left. Is it back? Yeah.
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What happened? I had to pee. Like, I I could not hold anymore. I had to go. You didn't even tell me. I thought you'd gone gone to train.
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I was like, I've actually motivated him. This is amazing. Yeah. Like,
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I just gotta get up and go. You know, you'd framed it like it's your outlet. If you're all frustrated and angry and need to, you know, expend excess energy and go to your happy place. That's what I did. I got I got out of a situation that was frustrating me, and I wouldn't work out. And I feel a lot better. Thanks for the advice.
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That's my pleasure, mate. I, I feel like I've sort of failed trying to explain my thoughts on that.
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Much like everything we do here, it's a lot of conversation starter. So I think in the booths, we're gonna get a lot of people chiming in on what they do for a workout routine. I know Pies is gonna say go find a tree Pull ups. And just start doing pull ups and going to a gym. Gym's a gay. Gay. Yep. And the world is your gym. Scaffolding, cell towers, trees.
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I'd say to pies though, another thing that I didn't mention is, mixing things up a little bit. So when things start to get easy or you get into a bit of a routine of like, oh, this is just what I do, then I'll mix things up. So if you wake up and you start doing pull ups and you do pull ups till you sleep and you're doing 10,000 pull ups a day, and you've been doing that for 20 years, it might be worth throwing something else in there. You know? Okay. Very well. Controversial.
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Well, what everybody could do right now is, stop, drop, and boost and tell us your workout program. Something new. It's not pull ups.
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This is great, though. I actually love myself
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pull ups as well. It hangs. It's like to hang there Yeah. Stretch out the torso and my shitty ass shoulders and and whatnot.
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Both of those things are incredible. They should always be part of a routine. Yeah. Nonnegosh.
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Mhmm. Well, everybody, this show is partially funded by boosts from you, the listener, from listeners like you. Look down at your phone. Stop dropping boost. Let us know what you're, what you're into as far as working out goes. Pilates.
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That's the other thing PIES does is Pilates.
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Who does Pilates? PIES. He loves Pilates. Well, he you just got him to boost right now.
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He's picking that phone up,
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calling you a British cuck right now. You cunt. Cunt. Yeah. Are you familiar with the eight forms of capital,
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Max, bit by bit and steen? I am familiar with them. Can I list them off the top of my head right this second? Please do. No. Social capital, financial capital, spiritual capital. Mhmm. Maybe, like, food. That's not really a cap is that a capital to see if one of those? I should know this better. Some of these things that that you can eat, the living capital, you can eat that.
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Mhmm.
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capital? Cattle? Cattle. Yeah. That would be living capital. Yeah. Yeah. Can't think of the rest, mate. Alright. Well, I'll list them in order. Okay. Because I have them written down, you see. Oh, that helps. Yeah. Social capital, which is what we're building right now in this community, this mesh to Dell community. Intellectual capital. You got a lot of that, pal. Nailed it. Thanks, mate. Cultural capital. That's that's your knowledge. That's the traditions that we pass on. You know, celebrating Christmas time, for instance, is cultural capital. Your shared values that you have in a community. Spiritual capital. That doesn't have to necessarily be all Christianity, but it is in that vein. It's your beliefs, your practices, that sense of a higher purpose, that spiritual purpose. There's more to this world than than what we're seeing, and I've got a purpose beyond what I can see right in front of me. Material capital.
These are tangible assets, land, tools, buildings, implements, things like that. Intellectual capital, which as you you mentioned, we've determined that you have a lot of. Mhmm. That's your knowledge, your education, whatever you use to innovate and to solve problems. Financial capital, that's something that in the community that we're in is almost overly emphasized. But Bitcoin, gold, silver, anything you use as a an a medium of exchange or a store of value is your financial capital. Living capital, not your natural resources. Soil. We don't think about soil, but it is if you have good soil. And, our friend, SolEx, had posted a picture of his compost pile the other day, and I thought, well, that thing is full of life.
Soil is a living capital. Your biodiversity, whatever is essential for life and sustaining your life. So cattle, living capital, animals that you have on the farm, chickens, whatnot, all living capital. Experiential capital. Those are your skills and your experience gained through the real world practice and application of whatever it is that you're doing. Farming, welding, working out Mhmm. Working out, you're learning things about your body, learning things about getting healthy. You can pass that on to somebody else. That's your your experiential
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capital. You just made me think of something. Okay. The other tip I give, you just made me think of is using someone with intellectual capital, a friend who has knowledge for your workout stuff. So, like, find someone who really knows their shit and actually listen. There are a few people around me who are very, very knowledgeable and just giving little tips. Like, I went to the gym with a guy the other day who was like, when you're doing that movement, just slightly rotate your wrist out this way, very, very slightly. When you come back, can you feel that squeezing more? And I'm like, oh, fuck. That's completely changed the movement. He's like, yeah. Just from watching how I'm doing something, somebody really knows what they're talking about can make these tiny little adjustments that will make all the difference. And that goes for everything, obviously. But, yeah, find someone who really knows their shit and listen. So perhaps you have exchanged social capital
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with his experiential and intellectual capital. Exactly. The reason I bring this up is because and we've done this often in the show. This idea comes from our friend, Carl, who got it from the permaculture community, and he gives a class on the eight forms of capital. We've even done episodes in Action News where we talk about the 8 forms of mining capital. Mhmm. We took this principle and put it on to Bitcoin mining that we overstress financial capital and leave these other things, you know, by the wayside. But I think given what I'm expecting to happen in Western civilization and that is an eventual socioeconomic collapse, is that we may have been given a little bit extra time to build on all these different forms of capital. The show, the mesh del community, the ungovernable misfits community, we're pretty good at building social capital. I think we've done a very good job of building friendships around us. You know, Sarah and I like to have a lot of our pleb friends over the house. You know, barn miner, baseload, Bubba, Chet, Shadrach. People come and visit us. So we're we're wealthy in a way, not financially, but I feel that we're wealthy with with social capital.
So I've, you know, we're finding where we are as a family where we're lacking in the 8 forms of capital. I think we're pretty good on spiritual capital, cultural capital as well. Material. I don't know. Maybe maybe not so much. I could use some more land. I could use another water source. For instance, I could always use more tools. Where do you feel that you and your family unit lack in the eight forms of capital?
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Financial capital probably at the moment.
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I think every everybody automatically says that, and I'm not I don't disagree.
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Yeah. No. Probably genuinely is that one at the moment, and then time capital. Mhmm.
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Yeah. I add this later on, and this is from one of Carl's lessons is he has 2 additional forms of capital, and that's vital capital and time capital. And vital capital is what we spoke about previously, your vitality, your health, whatever is for sustaining your life and productivity. If you aren't healthy and awake and full of energy, well, it's pretty fucking hard to be productive enough to build on your other forms of of capital
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and time capital. The his as Carl says, the most important one of all. Yeah. It is. There's no point in having all the money and all the connections if, you're dying. Well, cork. Yeah.
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To me and and I don't know if this is just because we're good at it. You and I in particular are are at least as far as my family goes, Sarah and I are are pretty good at it. We're pretty good at social capital. We have a lot of friends, not just in the pleb and Ungovitable Misfits community, but locally we've got we just have a lot of friends. We're very, very blessed in that way. But I think if you're doing it a certain way, the social capital could be a lot of the jumping off points to to build your other forms of capital, especially like intellectual capital. If you know a lot of people, then you have access to to intellectual and experiential capital because most of the time people are very willing to give those away for free, like your buddy in the gym. So that's what we recommend in the mesh del community is, is seek people out, maintain relationships. This is what I say to the kids all the time. Oh, like, you know, I haven't talked to my friends. Well, what did you call them?
No. Okay. I said, well, you know, maintaining relationships is just like maintaining, a field, maintaining a plant, maintaining an animal. You have to nurture it. Mhmm. You have to work at it. Like maintaining a garden.
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There's different types of plants that need different type of attention. Also, sometimes you do have to do some pruning because then it comes back into time. There are sometimes some plants in a garden that sometimes do need to, be taken out at the root Mhmm. And be put into the compost. And it's hard, but sometimes that has to happen.
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I know what you mean. Not just toxic relationships, but ones that aren't really going anywhere. They're not growing.
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Yeah. If you've got a goal or like, if you have a certain direction you're going in that interaction or that relationship is either getting in the way or doesn't help you get to that goal, if that's what you really if you're like, I all I care about right now, number 1, is I just wanna have stability, look after my family, make sure they have safety. I've got these 10 things I've gotta do. And at the end of the day, that comes first. There's something that's pulling you away from that. Mhmm. It might be that you can replant it further down the line. But at that time, like, being able to say no Yeah. Is an important thing. Power of no. Yeah. I've had to do it loads of times with people. And also just, like, even with me recently, like, the last year, no drinking, no drugs, just can't do it. It's like, does that help me in my goal? No. It doesn't. It hinders me. Would it be nice? Yeah. Fuck yeah. I'd love to just sit and have a smoke one night or, like, have a couple of whiskeys and just, like, put my feet up and relax for a couple of hours. But, no, I don't have time for that. So, no, you have to be able to say no. Okay. Very good. So maybe in in in closing here in this 8 forms of capital conversation is that you have to know
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know when to hold them, know when to fold them as far as building those. I see that a lot, I guess. Yeah. No one's in the hold them. No one's in the fold them. When to fold them. Thank you. Thank you for realizing what a predictable piece of shit I am. I bet you're not gonna predict my next move.
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Probably not. Go on. Stun
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me. It's to just roll right into the altair tech dot ioa. Yeah. No transition. Nothing. Just cut that segment right the fuck off. Mhmm. Right at the right at the root. Yeah. Hack it right off. We don't have any more time. Our time capital was being completely expended in that segment, and I just had to take the machete and whack it right off. Good work. Whack it right off.
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Something you're known for. Hey, you.
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You know what AltairTech. Io is known for, and that is selling you mining gear that's gonna help you prepare for the winter. On your last episode of the Bitcoin Brief with Bitcoin Q and A, you guys are talking about mining. You talked about all you gave alter tech. Io a free ad read there in your brief show. And you were talking about converting petahash or terahash to petahash, which Chet mentioned to me last night. He's like, Oh man, you go Max.
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In the second, right?
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10 S 19 J Pros was going to be a petahash. I can't believe it. I see. We were so I we were all so excited and all of the minors, you know, in in our ungovernable sphere were super proud of you on that episode, buddy.
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That's good to hear. I I felt the pressure if I'm honest. Because I was like, you should. Q obviously didn't have the faith in me, you know, just from years of knowing. Hopefully so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. He's like exponential capital.
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Yeah.
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He was like, there there's a very, very low chance of you getting this right. But, yeah, I backed myself and,
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pretty proud. I was beaming. I I was working. I was carrying 5 gallon buckets full of rocks at the time, and I just like like the Grinch. You know, my heart grew three sizes or whatever. How many sizes? More. And I lifted those. I just lifted them up because I was so excited.
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Like a proud grandfather.
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Yes. Yes. My baby boy. I was so proud of you. Oh, thank you. These art these art things you've been making for the show, you know, where you have, like, a hoodie on and some glasses, and you've got a microphone. And then I must be 90 years old in this picture that you created.
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But you look like a cool 90 year old. You look like a cool Yeah. Tough looking 90 year old. You know, like, a 90 year old who takes a lot of testosterone and still has a lot of bitches. Sure. Yeah. Like. Hey. Thanks, buddy. There's just flooding around you. Yeah. Of course. I know you're not really 90, but Thanks, buddy. People do think I'm old. Like Yeah.
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Funny. Think people believe that you are probably double the age you really are. Yeah. Yeah. I think you've done a great job of that, expending your social capital to convince people that that my, vital capital is extinguished.
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Yeah. You have to use it wisely.
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I'm not doing my best here. Speaking of time, let's continue on with our Altair Tech dot io ad read. Winter is coming. If you would like to explore any of their home heating options, I suggest you do it right the fuck now. Go get an old rapture. Go get an old rack. You fucker. Go get an Urlacher. So what is what is unique about all of these builds? And that is if you remember our interview with Zach Bombsta, the Loki kit. So the Loki kit was what tricks the minor into taking a 120 volt power source. The Lokey board does that. So these are this the Urlacher, the Bit Chimney, these are all Lokey builds.
So in a way, we have, Zach Bombsta from Pivotal Plebtech to thank for all of the Loki builds. Thanks, mate. They they make this possible. So my favorite thing that altertech.io is producing is the bit chimney. Reason being, the Urlacker is cool and everything, but it looks like a modified miner. You know, you've got a a an s nine power supply attached to the side of it. You've got a little Vonage card in there, so you don't need a Ethernet. You can put that anywhere. You can plug it into 110, but it is just a a miner that has been modified to take 110 and not use Ethernet, and it looks like it. The bit chimney, however. It is handsome AF.
Mhmm. Describe this to you. This is extruded aluminum. It is got this beautiful, like, candy apple red with the top grill guard and the bottom grill guard. The intake and the outtake are like a a powdered metal gray with that red. It's very handsome and and very festive as far as Christmas is concerned. If you wanna buy yourself a Christmas present, I think the bit chimney space heater is a place to get that. And your wife won't be mad at you either. This is true. Yeah. It's like Iron Man fucked an s 9, and this was their child. I love that.
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Yeah. It's the same sort of red, isn't it? And very, like, technically sophisticated.
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Mhmm. Jordan, is there any way that you can create some art for us that is Iron Man fucking in s 9? If he can't, I can. I will,
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I keep getting flagged all the time when I'm making art for, like What? Yeah. Well, you're only allowed to, like like, when I was trying to do Janet Yellen being the owl. The owl. Yeah. Yeah. I kept getting flagged for all the stuff that I was trying to make. And then I was trying to do one with, what's his name? Fucking sailor Mhmm. As, like, a clown and then the Pied Piper and doing all this different stuff. I kept getting flagged all the time. There's you're, like, not allowed to do certain stuff. It, like, doesn't meet their guidelines, so, I'm sure I'm gonna be banned quite soon.
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Don't attack anybody in the club. No.
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But I'm sure I could work a way out of having Iron Man fucker s 9 right in its power cord.
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I'm feeling the same feeling, in you describing Powerman drilling an s 9 as I do when I I fire up any one of my miners in order to heat my home. I just get that that warm, warm sensation. You too can have access to that warm, warm sensation of mining those sweet, sweet sets.
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Altair tech dot io, and you can use the code ungovernable to get a discount and let them know that we're shilling. Indeed.
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Up next on ungovernable if it's PMM, we're gonna make this one quick. Really, I think because I don't have a lot to say about it. We recently had these hurricanes in the United States. One was Helene, and the other one was, Milton, which that one was in Florida. And that was supposed to be pretty bad, but it ended up being okay. The biggest one that hit in an area of the United States that's not used to getting these kind of floods or these kind of storms was Western North Carolina, Appalachia. And the reason that I bring it up is because, well, it sucks and disaster preparedness is an important part of the mesh del community, but because there are a lot of permaculture practitioners that live in the Western North Carolina area. 2 of them that I follow are Billy from Perma Pastures Farms and, Justin Rhodes is another pretty famous YouTube type, permaculturalist.
And even those people who consider themselves prepared and they have their own food sources and their homesteaders and such that they were hit pretty hard. And from the perspective of Justin Rhodes, I've been in pretty impressed to how quickly he has spun his farm back up there in Western North Carolina. And the reason that he's been able to do that from what I've seen just observing his YouTube channel, I've I've never interacted with the guy before, is he's built quite a community around his YouTube channel and has had a lot of volunteers come and help them, build things back up.
So that's using once again your your social capital, which I I just really think social capital almost takes a little bit of a lead in this 8 forms of capital discussion because you can leverage it for, you know, something like, hey. Please, all these volunteers come to my farm and help me restore the homestead. The thing that upset that upset me in this whole response to this hurricane, of course, is our Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA. I think that's what it stands for. Coming in and doing their typical needle dick bureaucratic dance and say, oh, yeah, we're trying to help people. And, anybody that is flying helicopters into these communities is interfering with our rescue efforts. And I suppose this story is a little bit late because some people are saying that this has had an effect on our elections here in the United States, and we're not going to get too deep into that. You know, these needle dick bureaucratic institutions that we have all over, not just the United States, be even worse so in Canada, even worse, worse so in in the UK and in Europe, they're nothing but a hindrance.
Even though they exist, people still did whatever they could do to rebuild roads, to to rescue people. That's still all social capital related. I think, you know, people are using their material capital, their helicopters, their their pieces of heavy equipment, but more so their their social capital to get out there and help people. It's something that that was nice to see. We don't want to see people deal with a 100 year flood, lose their homes, lose their lives. We don't want to see families buried alive in mud. But as a result, in those disasters, you get to see the best of humanity. What's cool. Seeing people just rolling in and taking charge, getting things done. It shows how much you can get done when the government isn't in your way. Yeah. I've done a lot of thinking, comparing that to Katrina that we had in the early 2000 here in the United States that hit New Orleans. And New Orleans is, you know, there are a lot of people in that area that don't necessarily fend for themselves on a daily basis, like the people in Western North Carolina would do. They're more city dwellers. They're more suburban dwellers.
Perhaps a lot of them had been on government assistance for generations. Unlike the people of Western North Carolina who are country folks, they're they're mountain folks, they're they're Appalachians. They know how to survive.
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Now survive, and they probably have more experience with the tools that you might need to put things back together and Mhmm. Yeah. Using, like, farm equipment and the shit that you actually need rather than, like, oh, I can set up a router. Good for you. Yeah. Well done. Do you know how to use a chainsaw? Are you asking me specifically? I'm not asking you. I'm asking the imaginary city dwelling folks Mhmm. Who don't have the skills to look after themselves and their families should a disaster strike.
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Yeah. So that's it. That's your disaster preparedness. If you have been actively working on your eight forms of capital, then you're well ahead of of a lot of other people. Are you disaster proof? No. And no such thing exists. Them country folks, they can survive, Max. That's tough. I think there there's something to be said. Like, why did why does city folk, you know, as far as the United States is concerned, like, why do these blue inner city dwellers look so down on country folk? Call them names, call them garbage people, undesirables. I think they're jealous.
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There's like a bit of an inversion in society of, like, the more useful you are, the less useful you are deemed to be. So, like, the jobs that are actually producing the least value in the world, like bankers, for example, would in those high society champagne socialist type places be seen as, oh my god. That's amazing. Like, I wish my daughter would marry a banker. Mhmm. Whereas, like, a farmer who's actually bringing something to the market that people need to survive Yeah. It's like, oh, they're just a farmer. An uneducated
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farmer. Yeah. Exactly. That's a lot of what I saw in this recent election is people who had a lot of experiential capital were considered uneducated. Mhmm. The uneducated voted overwhelmingly for Trump. The uneducated? Mhmm.
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Fuck you. Well, it's you know, a lot of these, like, educated types is like most of these people, if you actually said to them, like, what have you actually fucking built this week? Like, what have you actually done? They'd find it hard to really they'd, like, say a lot of words that don't really mean a lot. They would lean on credentials. Yes. And these people, like, if you drop them into a disaster situation where they need to think on their feet or put some actual effort in, they just wouldn't be able to do it, certainly not without a soy latte in their hands. They're like, they just can't function. Like, it's, it's weird. It's definitely there is an inversion there. Yeah. What people respect and sort of hope to become is generally useless thieving parasites.
[01:28:01] Unknown:
Which brings us up to Bubba's philosophers pit stop, minstrel's musings. Oh, here we go. The dime that he has to drop to us is people. I love people. It's the public I hate. I think that fits it fits very well in this conversation. I like that. And isn't that the way, you know, you have people on opposite sides of of whatever always refer to others. You know? The the uneducated for instance or, you know, or something I'm very guilty of is to say liberals. I said this for years all the time. The liberals this and that liberals. And then when you meet people and you have conversations with them, you're not really so mad at them. You're not necessarily putting them in all of these different categories.
Well, now they're just a person. So, yes, it's liberals that you hate. But when you meet 1 and you have a conversation and you're both being sincere and there's no vitriol, you don't hate them. You disagree with them, but you don't hate them. But then you extrapolate these this out into larger, you know, groups of the population. Well, then it then it's okay. Now now I hate them when there's a bunch of them together. We need more hate in this world. That's not no. You're you've you've got that wrong. It wrong. So No. You need love.
[01:29:16] Unknown:
We're all good. Yeah. No. We need more hate. We need more bullying. We need more hate. We need more devaluation of the currency. Mhmm. We need more people to get credentials for jobs that actually achieve nothing or less than nothing. And we need to put these people down, people who actually produce. We need to say, fuck you. You're uneducated.
[01:29:38] Unknown:
We don't need you. We don't need pharma. We don't need food. Well, if that's what you'd like to do, if you'd like to group people in into big segments and hate them Mhmm. Then go to the Bitcoin conference. Yes. Go to some kind of blockchain council conference. If you'd actually like to speak to another human being and get to know them on a personal level, then you should come and visit Lake Satoshi.
[01:30:09] Unknown:
Come to Lake Satoshi and hate others together.
[01:30:15] Unknown:
There's no hating at Lake Satoshi. There's only love. Oh, you got it, Bob Seeker. Mhmm. We're gonna take away your inhibitions. We're gonna take away your solitude by coupling you with other wonderful pleb friends at Lake Satoshi. Next year, August 2, 2025. You can spend great time with me. Jet here. Jet, are you excited for Lake Satoshi 2025? Oh, okay. Is. Mhmm. Do you wanna come talk to Max for a little bit? Make the chips go. Not really. He still doesn't wanna talk to you. He didn't come see me when I was in London. I had sat at the airport, and I'm just, you know, so sad that he left me in again.
[01:31:03] Unknown:
Jose?
[01:31:04] Unknown:
Yeah. He was sad. Okay. He cried? There's nothing sadder than a guy with a big old beard crying in Heathrow Airport. Catching tears in his beard. Catching tears in his beard. Moisturizing his beard with tears. Yep. And that's what you've done to this man. You think he's gonna come on your show and talk to you? It's your show too, mate. Pish posh. No, if it was just me, he'd come on. Give it to you. Yeah. He what about his position? He called you out his boost. What about your boot? You know what? He does probably doesn't want to read his boost, does he? I'll read your boost with you here so you can hear and he says no.
So you can hear he says, l m f a o. Great fat fuck reading, John. Thank you. You're welcome, Chad. Great fucking show. I love you, fellas, and all the fucking mining plebs. Our time has come for us to rule our worlds. Hash slutette came with me to London. Oh. Who knew what an amazing classy lady she is? Thanks for bringing us together, PMM. Y'all will be invited to the wedding. What? What? The wedding? Well, you heard it here live on PMM. Chet and Hashludet.
[01:32:17] Unknown:
Wow. Are betrothed.
[01:32:18] Unknown:
They're gonna make such beautiful blue babies. Mary, I have bad news. She already broke up with me, and she's Fuck. She's moved on. I voted for Trump, and she she wants a white boy She was blue. Of course. It makes sense. She was blue. Yeah.
[01:32:32] Unknown:
You would have made such beautiful blue bearded babies.
[01:32:36] Unknown:
Max said you would have made such beautiful blue bearded babies. Okay. No. No blues coming out of here.
[01:32:44] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:32:45] Unknown:
Alright. Well, you could make purple babies. Purple babies. Yeah. Watch it. Thank you always for your support of the show. We wouldn't do it without you. We probably would, but it wouldn't be as fun. No. It wouldn't be as fun. Well, you can meet people like me, Chet, other lovely folks who are both red, blue, purple, green. It doesn't matter at Lake Satoshi. It's just all about love. And Bitcoin and lakes. And Bitcoin and lakes. Yep. And education, community, food, swimming, jet skiing, boating, diving, backflips. Oh,
[01:33:22] Unknown:
I just thought of something when you said about that. Mhmm. Have you see I've got a new obsession. Have you seen the new Audi hydrofoil? Mhmm. Okay. Just go into your browser.
[01:33:35] Unknown:
Alright. Here we go. Type in Audi
[01:33:38] Unknown:
hydrofoil.
[01:33:39] Unknown:
Get all q and a and start clicking. Audi hydrofoil.
[01:33:47] Unknown:
Because I thought one of these at Lake Satoshi would be epic. Woah. Yeah. Yep. They do 30 mile an hour. Chet, one of these on Lake Satoshi.
[01:33:58] Unknown:
You gotta buy this so we can ride it next year. Yeah. Okay. It's got money, so you just ask daddy Chet for things. It's only $10. And It's only $10,000. Yeah. Maybe not. Fuck. He's out. What oh, wait. Hold on. Let me if what if Bitcoin's 200 k? No. Fuck. Alright. We're gonna have to we're gonna have to buy this ourselves.
[01:34:17] Unknown:
Okay. That's fine. 30 mile an hour. It will run for 2 hours. Go anywhere on any water. You can ride waves with it as well. Just fucking epic. One of those on nice Satoshi. Okay. I'm just telling everyone now it will be there next year. So buy your tickets now because it's gonna be there. Chet's gonna buy it, and, you can go and play. Okay. Alright.
[01:34:37] Unknown:
I'm not gonna tell Chet that. No. No. Definitely. Listens to this episode of OPMM. Well, like I said, it's it's August 2, 2025. You can camp. If you want to bring something like an RV, they don't exactly have the facilities to host a bunch of RVs. So you will need to contact them and see if that's all right. But if you're just camping, sleeping in the back of your car, you got some kind of pop up tent, something like that. They definitely have the space to to house you at Lake Satoshi. And having done both, did the tent and the year before did the RV actually preferred the tent and both of our our our younger 2 daughters, because that's the only ones that that we brought, still talk about, you know, sleeping outside in the tent and wasn't that great and getting up and seeing the water in the morning and, you know, pleb friends as as soon as you wake up. They just they were so tickled by it. That really is
[01:35:30] Unknown:
is gonna be a long term memory that that they have. I thought you said you were above sleeping in a tent when we spoke about this last time. That's true. But, you know, plans change Changed your mind. And and, changed my mind and Okay. I'm still above sleeping in a tent. You're still better than it, but you would just entertain for a evening. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. You you've nailed it. You are better than camping. Well done.
[01:35:56] Unknown:
Up next on up next on moving away from me. Up next on Ungovernable Misfits, PMM, we have pernicious money. Marielle talks to us on the masters of manipulation. Charles Marielle starts off this article, with a quote from Whitney Webb. Are you familiar with this gal, this Whitney Webb? Oh, I know Whitney. Okay. I'm not gonna read this part. We will put it in the show notes. We will link to it, the Twitter part. I'm just gonna get right into Charles Mariel's own words. He says, I believe that it is important to question ourselves and our motives frequently when we make decisions that are consequences. People who believe what they're doing is morally correct oftentimes are the ones causing the most damage to others.
You said it, pal. Horrible crimes against humanity are perpetuated by individuals who believe what they are doing is just, moral, and in the name of a cause greater than themselves. What's even scarier is that we all have the capacity to deceive ourselves. If you are reading this, you likely are astonished when you look around at your peers who believe things that appear to you as being transparently based on lies. We all have the capacity of being completely delusional, just like the people we believe are delusional. Let us never fear robbers nor murderers.
Those are dangers from without, petty dangers. Let us fear ourselves. Prejudices are the real robbers. Vices are the real murderers. The great danger lies within ourselves. Victor Hugo from Les Miserables. The scale of death and destruction that is caused on a daily basis in the name of championing a higher moral cause is staggering. Almost every war that is fought is not at the behest of the people fighting the war. It is done because they have been duped to fight for their ruler. There are good guys and bad guys in the world, and lots of pro war spin does not change that truth. Most of the time, war turns the people fighting into the bad guys. Over the last few weeks, there has been discussion and criticism of Mark Goodwin and Whitney Webb's work at the publication Unlimited Hangout.
They have presented the worldview that much of the Bitcoin adjacent industry is being infiltrated and or controlled by unsavory characters who appear to be very opposed to the concepts of freedom, privacy, and censorship resistance. Instead, this well funded group is seeking to continue to loot, destroy market competition, and pillage regardless of the consequences. Slavery is still slavery even if your masters say more things that you agree with than the other guy. What may seem to mistake their work for saying is that this attempt at using Bitcoin as a vehicle to give individuals the opportunity of experiencing freedom is a lost or wasted cause. I don't believe they are saying this at all. On multiple interviews, Mark Goodwin has gone as far to state that he is still bullish on Bitcoin, then going on to explain why. I'll be honest.
I have not chosen to prioritize going through their work and fact checking everything they have stated or read their cited sources. I do believe their work confirms a lot of fears that I have. We live in a world where our realities are largely constructed for us. We are subject to such heavy levels of manipulation. Being honest with yourself creates a level of cognitive dissonance that can feel unbearable at times. Finding some sort of compass is important for being able to understand and navigate the world around you. You have to know what your values are and how different things play into or against them. I don't think it's reasonable to believe we will ever be able to figure out who all the players are, and definitely not their intentions.
You have likely experienced something similar to me over the last few years, of waking up out of a stupor in which you realized that all the institutions you were taught to believe in were corrupted to their cores. Bitcoin may have been refreshing because it truly seemed like an alternative to that world you were seeing differently for the first time. You have spent years arguing with no corners and shitcoiners about their silly concepts and how the world works. Now it feels that the world is growing increasingly chaotic, afraid, uncertain, and doubtful. We have to learn how to confront the reality that the wild west world of digital currencies is changing. The people many of us sought Haven from by using encryption and Bitcoin are now targeting us at an alarming rate, trying to define the ways individuals are allowed to use it. The battle for freedom and privacy have been ongoing throughout recorded human history. When the printing press was invented, the Catholic church attempted to suppress the distribution of information.
When Cypherpunks attempted to prevent the Orwellian future we find ourselves in, the state attempted to prevent it by classifying code as munitions. Now the state is attempting to attack groups like the samurai wallet developers and other open source developers in an attempt to regain control. If you get the chance, watch the documentary, Cypherpunks Write Code, if you haven't yet. It is very reasonable to also believe that there may be individuals attempting to create products centered around surveillance and coercion as a competing alternative, and just purchasing Bitcoin on a KYC exchange to withdraw onto your foundation device may not be enough to prevent things from getting really treacherous and scary.
Inaction does not fix this. Complacency does not fix this. Apathy does not fix this. Trusting heroes or authority figures does not fix this. Deferring responsibility does not fix this. Denying reality because it's inconvenient does not fix this. I believe Whitney and Mark's work is important. At worst, it's an important reality check, and at best, it is really exposing that there are shady forces working in and around us. I did not get excited about Bitcoin because I thought it was a vehicle to bail out the US federal government. It might have that unintended consequence, but the future will be determined by the actions or inactions of people.
The important thing to understand about Bitcoin is that there are inherent properties it has. How people interact with it entirely up to its users, and how we choose to interact with it is a reflection of humanity. Government and corporations can only do so much as we tolerate. Next, he goes on to say, prove uncle Ted wrong. A quote from Ted Kaczynski, the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Good old uncle Ted has lost faith in humanity's ability to engage with technology. He believed that in order for humanity to flourish, technology had to be destroyed, essentially making him an aspiring Amish person.
His manifesto, Industrial Society and Its Future, explained his thoughts in detail and is definitely worth a read. He believed that in order for humanity to be free, technology needed to be eliminated, and that much of our mental health issues plaguing our culture resulted from the overreliance on technology. One thing that is clear is that we are evolving incredibly quickly in the pace that the technology we are using is changing, is creating all sorts of consequences that humanity has never dealt with before according to the way we understand history. Uncle Ted would have hated Bitcoin and likely wouldn't have seen the value in it. While I find a lot of what he thought to be valuable, mostly because it's so different than all the other nonsense we are bombarded with, I don't think he was correct in his views of technology.
I have much higher faith in humanity and believe that individuals will be able to learn how to live with it and even have the capacity to leverage technology in order to experience freedom. If that wasn't the case, maybe living in a cabin in the woods would be the best path forward. And once again, that's our staff writer, Charles Muriel.
[01:43:50] Unknown:
Just cranks out hit after hit. Doesn't he? Yeah. He sure does. Uncle Ted. I've not heard that one before. Really? No. Maybe it's an American thing. Uncle Ted.
[01:44:05] Unknown:
Uncle Ted. Right. You'd love to see uncle Ted riding on top of the, Killdozer.
[01:44:10] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. What do you think? Have you gone too far with technology? Do you wanna go and live in a cabin in the woods? Yeah. Yeah.
[01:44:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I do. But that's to me, the that's running away essentially. Technology is here, exists. We can't run. You can't hide. Somebody could just call up Bifrost manufacturing and have them create a new drone for you and come into your cabin and blow it up. I think that's that's the one of the scariest things from the this Ukraine Russian war is these fucking drones.
[01:44:41] Unknown:
Mhmm. Terrifying. They are absolutely terrifying. And as the technology gets easier for the average person to have and control, it gets even more terrifying. But there's not really a lot you can do other than, like, anti drone drones on your Mhmm. Land or you know what I mean? Like Yeah. Which still require you to have a tether to to technology. Yes. You're not gonna win with, like, a shotgun.
[01:45:07] Unknown:
Those days are done. This, this Country Boy in the Woods, one of my favorite songs is Country Boy Can't Survive by Hank Williams during the the storms in Western North Carolina. I thought a lot about that song. You can Country Boy Can't Survive. He can run a trot line. He can, you know, do all these Country Boy kind of things. Can he control the drone? The drone. Yeah. Maybe not. Maybe not. You're gonna have to add that to the country boy can survive list of things that you can do. I can control control.
[01:45:40] Unknown:
Can down a drone. A dog. Yeah. You're gonna need drones. You're gonna need little robot dogs to patrol the perimeter. You're gonna need all this sort of stuff. It's gonna be interesting to see because people are gonna be able to build these things with off the shelf parts Yeah. That won't be able to be tracked, and they're gonna be able to control them from anywhere to do pretty much anything. So it's just gonna be quite a weird quite a weird world. Social capital, That's what you need. You need the social capital for when this comes. You you need it all. You need black coffee. Black coffee. Can you take out a anti drone operation?
[01:46:20] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll do that. Sure, mate. I'll do that.
[01:46:25] Unknown:
Poor black coffee.
[01:46:27] Unknown:
He doesn't deserve this. No. We're being nice as well as doing horrendous accents. We're saying you're very competent. In a way. That's a way. In a way. Yeah.
[01:46:40] Unknown:
I have another piece that I've written after this about social capital, and I think we're gonna shelve it. Okay. We'll do it at another time. The show's gone on long enough. Long enough. Okay. Well,
[01:46:50] Unknown:
should we, wrap it up there, and I'll get to editing, get this beauty out there to the people? Yeah. Let's make it happen.
[01:46:57] Unknown:
I I guess in closing, I'd like to say, please pay attention to what the eight forms of capital are. You're going to be better at building some forms than other people are, and that's what makes us a civilization. That's what makes us a community is some people are better at stuff than others. So if you're great at, the living capital part and somebody's great at the social capital part, just, share those resources amongst each other because we will if we get together, if we build on all these eight forms of capital, if we consider ourselves a, nodes within the greater mesh Dell community, we will be able to survive.
Thanks for listening to this episode of Ungovernable Misfits, PMM. There you go, mate. Uh-oh. That was an absolute pleasure again to catch up with you. Yeah. It was. We we we need each other in a way we do. We've been yearning.
[01:48:03] Unknown:
So busy now. So busy all the time.
[01:48:06] Unknown:
I I don't mean to be, but it's it's building up to something much better now. Alex. We'll get there. We're building some capital. We're building some capital. I'm glad to have Chet here to to come and help me and advise on this. Fight in the woods Built in a relationship with a woman and the kids and Now it's time for some of these niche relationships to come in, which, you know, he and I will talk him the other night. I got a shock gun. How we're almost like you. Drive a generation. Country boy can survive. Generation.
[01:49:43] Unknown:
The western
[01:49:47] Unknown:
sky.
[01:49:49] Unknown:
And we can skin a buck, we can run a trot line, and a country boy can supply. Country folks can't. I had a good friend in New York City. He never called me by my name, just Hillbilly. My grandpa taught me how to live off the land, and he's taught him to be a businessman. He used to send me pictures of the Broadway nights, and I'd send him some homemade wine. But he was killed by a man with a switchblade knife for $43. My friend lost his line. I'd love to spit some beeching up in that dude's eyes and shoot him with my old 45 because a country boy can't survive.
Country folks can't survive. Folks can survive.