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[00:00:00] Unknown:

This is good, isn't it? We start, and as soon as we start, somebody's fucking mowing a lawn. I just love how we've been talking for a half an hour, and there was no noise on your end. No no chirping birds there in Costa Rica. Now they're mowing lawns.  

[00:00:17] Unknown:

Stay calm. Stay calm. Things could be worse. I could be you. I'm worried about you, mate.  

[00:00:22] Unknown:

Yeah. I I guess on that last action news episode that we recorded, maybe I was bitching a lot. And then and then a couple people reached out to me. Like, Alex reached out. You okay? You and q and a were talking about? Oh, I'm worried about John. Somebody Mhmm. It's alright. I'm okay.  

[00:00:38] Unknown:

I don't think it was the bitching. It was like there was an undertone of, like, not distress, kind of, like,   fatigue.   Just like,   I'm tired of this fucking shit. I'm really tired  

[00:00:51] Unknown:

of the bullshit   and things that don't matter. The I I'm very excited. Even though I we don't have a lot on the docket today for this episode of PMM,   I was excited to record it because I feel like we cover topics that are more meaningful Mhmm. That are actionable,   that are impactful in people's lives, that are practical.   We have a little fun with our conspiracy theory type stuff and going off on different tangents. But in every PMM   episode,   I think people walk away with something   tangible, whether they feel good about their family or their community or their direction that they're gonna, you know, go into to achieve   sovereignty and freedom and all the things that we talk about in this show. All the good stuff. I was glad to get to it. Sometimes with the mining stuff, because I'm working so hard on something mining, when the topic goes into   bid access, pool centralization,   and decentralization. And now this stupid argument with the Bitcoin core devs and opportune limits and all that stuff, and I think, oh my god. I've, like, invested   all the spare capital plus debt to make this thing happen. I've been working nonstop for the past couple months to make this project happen. I'm, like, just frustrated   to have to even cover  

[00:02:03] Unknown:

all this stupid petty bullshit. I I just wanna build real things. And so maybe that's why my tone felt that way on the last show. I completely agree. I was actually saying that to my missus yesterday, we were driving, taking the kids somewhere, and she was, oh, how's it going with the pod? And I was like, it's good, but   I'm a bit bored and frustrated.   Mhmm.   These conversations are cool. The general updates that I do with Q and the things I do with Seth and, like, the odd conversations and stuff, like, I still enjoy those. But I feel like as soon as I try and dip into   Twitter, especially, like, now with all this fucking, I'm running nuts.  

All this, like Yeah. Gay,   fucking,   virtue signaling   Mhmm.   Stupidity, it just makes me, like,   I'd rather, like, fucking take up fishing or something. It's more interesting. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Absolutely.   I don't have the energy   to care about this shit. Whereas I used to, and I'd probably have picked a side even though, like, I have my opinions, but I picked a side and, like, gone to war over it and fight over it and stuff. And, like, now I'm just like, I just don't care. All I wish is you'd shut the fuck up. Mhmm. That's all I wish. That's all I hope for that when I go to send a tweet Yeah. Or go to look for something interesting, I don't have this drivel in front of me. That's the only thing. And when you're busy, I guess, it's just like I don't know. I understand your frustration.  

[00:03:26] Unknown:

I'm not frustrated.   I'm pleased with the progress that I'm making.   I've been excited to interact with a lot of different people that I wouldn't normally have met, you know, just in our social circles, especially now with the oil and gas mining people who have nothing to do with the coin mining who really don't care. Mhmm. I've been able to branch out and meet a few different folks, and that's been nice. And I've made progress. Yeah. I'm I'm building something   real, something that's beneficial to my family, will be to my friends and the people that know me in mining, and I'm excited about it. But it's hard work, and Mhmm. I think the worst thing, and I've been complaining to Sarah a lot about this,   is ten years ago, I was a absolute   horse. I mean, I could work fourteen hours a day and then get it and do it again and do it again and again   for weeks at a time, thirty something days in a row. No problem. Just give me some food. Let me sleep a little bit. Like a mule. Yeah. I was a fucking monster. Mhmm. And now when I work ten or twelve hours a day, I'm feeling it, and I feel it the next day.  

And that's been frustrating to me to finally, like, go up against your limits and realize that, wow. So I can't maintain that for the rest of my life. That's that's just age. Yeah. I know. You are old.   Yeah. Somebody said that in in one of our our chats today. Why does Max call you old all the time?  

[00:04:49] Unknown:

Because you are. Speak speak the truth.   Yeah.   Yeah. It's like you hit different stages of everyone says that, and you, like, ignore it and ignore it, especially when you're younger. And then I mean, I'm nowhere near as old as you, but I've noticed it. Every   every sort of decade that goes past, you suddenly hit it. You're like, oh,   fucking hell. Moving that way is a bit harder. Yeah. Waking up is a bit harder.   Why does my fucking knees and everything hurt today? Like, for zero reason. Yeah. Just yeah. I'm tired. It's like, oh, it's 09:00 at night, and I'm, like, falling asleep. What what is happening? Yeah.   Yeah. Everyone says it. Like, I remember my grandma, she'd got to nearly a hundred, and she, like, used to say she's like, everything's just   hard now. Mhmm. Everything hurts and everything's hard. She was like, don't take it for granted now while you're young, but, obviously,   you do. And I probably take it for granted now. And then when I get I was a long way away. But when I get to your sort of age, I'll be like, fuck. I wish I was like how I am now. So I get it. You can't fucking stop the digs, can you?  



[00:05:52] Unknown:

What do you mean to do? I'm as old as I am. Like I'm sorry. I didn't choose this. It No.  

[00:05:59] Unknown:

Every year, this happens. You know? It happened. Yeah. Every second, it's happening. It's just constantly   chipping away. No. She's I felt like maybe I was a bit too nice and caring. We all were quite worried about you and, like, sending you nice messages and stuff, and I thought, like, we gotta bring you down a peg. Like, we can't indulge you too much more. So Mhmm. Woe is me or, like Yeah. Come on. Yes. Yes.   You're an aged man, but you still need to toughen the fuck up. Okay.  

[00:06:26] Unknown:

Okay.   I am, like, still nursing a sore foot Okay. Oh. Because I jumped on top of one of these containers Mhmm. To take the catalytic converter and exhaust off the top of it so I could transport it. And then I just, like, jumped down off of it like it was nothing.   And I was like Okay. Oh, holy shit. I I really can't just jump six feet, you know,   down and not feel a little bit of an injury. It's a lot of force.  

[00:06:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Right.  

[00:06:58] Unknown:

Well, you you know, be be before we play the intro song, I said, so everything in the show should be actionable.   Mhmm. You know? It it shouldn't just be one middle aged guy and one super young fit hot guy talking about, you know, getting older. Yeah. Yeah. The the the actionable things here. And and I thought to myself the other day is, okay. I can't go. And I and I talked to you about this on the phone last week. So I can't go fourteen hours a day anymore. Mhmm. I still got my Fiat job. I still get these kids. Still, you know, building this thing. Get rid of them. That's the problem. No. They've been great. Sarah's been great throughout all of this. Just every everybody picking up slack because nothing can happen in a family like this   with just saying, okay. Well, dad's gonna now take on a whole another lifestyle and project along with these other things that that he's created. Yeah. Yeah. And there's gonna be no impact on the family. There there is impact. I'm gonna hear less, and everybody has turned it up. So that's this like, making sure other people, you know, up their game Mhmm. In your family is 100% necessary. Sarah does it automatically, but it it's been a sit down with the girls and explain, like, hey. I can't tell you to do your chicken tours every day. I can't tell you to empty the trash can. I can't tell you to clean your room and bring you know, because this is like the death of a thousand cuts in a family, is the parents having to constantly   pick up a thing, pick up the kid's slack, tell the kid to do something. Well, that takes, like, emotional energy from you, and it takes time from you. Try to explain to them, and they always should be, whether I was starting this project or not, self starters. And I think that's a lot of where we've put our energy is to get these kids to be more self starters and pick up the slack in little places here so I can be away and do stuff. That's good. But we'll see. You know?  



[00:08:38] Unknown:

I should be doing this anyway. Shit  

[00:08:41] Unknown:

in one hand and wishing the other.   Is you know, I I said this to you the other day. So my entire life has always been, oh, I gotta put brakes on my car. No way I'm paying somebody to put brakes on my car. I'm not doing that shit. Oh, I gotta cut this tree down. No. I'm not calling somebody to cut that tree down. I'm I'm a cut that tree down.   Every little thing, I   always done.   Mhmm. If I didn't know it, I'd figure it out. I'd learn it. If I couldn't learn it, didn't have the tools, take it to a friend's house, do it together. But now I'm to the point where, like, okay.   I have to start paying people to do stuff. Mhmm. And that's been the most difficult part of all of this, saying to myself, okay. You're human.  

You're getting old. There's only so much time in the day. Stop tripping over a dollar to save a dime.   Mhmm. Spending twelve hours on something so I can save $200.  

[00:09:33] Unknown:

Yeah. Those days are over, and that's been a difficult transition. The difficult part is well, it's two pronged there because it's, like, it's difficult to let go and change your mentality.   And then you actually have to have the money   that you pay the people to do the things as well. So it's it's double hard. Yeah. I find I find I find that. I'm like, fuck. I can't take on anymore. I'm gonna have to pay someone to do this. Yeah. They're like, okay. Here's my bill. You're like,   yes.   That money thing.  

[00:10:05] Unknown:

You want that to do the job. You know, you've been this way with under government misfits, like, T shirt stuff. You're like, fuck. I'm just gonna print it all myself.  

[00:10:14] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[00:10:15] Unknown:

Yep. Like, wait a minute. This is not practical.  

[00:10:18] Unknown:

Turns out there's only so many hours in the day. Yeah. It's there there really are. I can still bang through, like, fourteen, sixteen hours, but it's   it's still still, like, prioritizing stuff, isn't it? Especially with families.   If I do   what I used to do before family, I wouldn't have a family very long. They'd be like, oh, fuck this. I   must stay. But you can't just lock yourself in an office and then just, like, not come out. You can't actually do that. Like, you can't miss every breakfast, lunch, dinner. Marry a hermit. Yeah. You can't miss every single thing that we do. Like, that's just not   anymore. So there's  

[00:10:55] Unknown:

a balance there. Well, hopefully, we can all strike that balance and just ask for a little bit more focus and energy.   What do we all want to achieve? You know? I just want a a little bit more ability to create our own path Mhmm. As a family.  

[00:11:09] Unknown:

I just want everyone to leave me alone unless I want something from them. Like, government, can you just fuck off? Taxman, can you just fuck off? Like, can all the interfering just fuck off? And then if I, like, want something or need something, then I'll reach out. That's the position you wanna be in where you can, like, close   the gates on your home, and you can be in there. Mhmm. And there's just, like, the standard mode is that everyone leaves you the fuck alone, and you can just get   along with your business and, like, your life. That's the dream. I don't feel like that's asking for too much, but it see it seems from our conversation we had off air with some of the things that we could talk about that we can't hear is, like, that seems really fucking hard. But,   hopefully, you're gonna play some, like,   aggressive   gym music intro stuff that's gonna get us all pumped, and then we're gonna, like, fuck them. And then we can, like,   get back to winning.  

Yeah. Let's do that. Should we do that?  

[00:12:08] Unknown:

It's coming.   That'll get you going.   Oh.   This is so crap.  

[00:12:27] Unknown:

Yeah. My bad breath. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. I'm so proud.  

[00:12:50] Unknown:

And generally Bad Brains is good, is it?  

[00:12:54] Unknown:

Yeah.   Generally Bad Brains is good.   DC,   Eighties DC punk band   that blew up worldwide.   Everybody knows that,  

[00:13:06] Unknown:

except for me, from these things.  

[00:13:09] Unknown:

Well, now you do.  

[00:13:11] Unknown:

So I've just added it to my Jimmy playlist.  

[00:13:16] Unknown:

Alright. And that faded out more nicely when you do your editing work? Yeah. I'll make it sound good.   Well, we're pumped up.   Thanks to Bad Brains,   Soulcraft.  

[00:13:27] Unknown:

Thank you, Bad Brains.  

[00:13:29] Unknown:

Ready to fight the globalist. I didn't play our, I hate you   intro song. I think maybe that's been played. Yeah. I think so. We're good. We did that for a a year and a half, and,   you guys get it.  

[00:13:42] Unknown:

There's certain people and organizations we hate.  

[00:13:45] Unknown:

Yeah. Mainly Hollywood Pedophiles.  

[00:13:49] Unknown:

They are the worst.  

[00:13:50] Unknown:

Mhmm. Well, on this episode of PMM, we don't have much. I said on the last episode of Action News that these are just gonna be short and sweet   and not layered with all kinds of stuff, but I think there's a certain amount of fatigue   for all of the nuts and bolts kind of stuff. Mhmm. It's almost too much of it. There is a little bit. So we're gonna take it easy.   Yeah. Got two topics on here I wanna cover.   Chickens,   you know, given that you've,   most recently moved to Argentina   Mhmm. And you're looking at a property that has a lot of land. Mhmm. You want to get some backyard chickens or maybe even scale beyond backyard chickens, and we'll talk Mhmm. Chicken talk because I have some chickens.   I know. And I know a little bit about it. You know, a cluck load.  

It was cute. Yeah. You you got really great dad jokes. You're a good dad. Yeah. I know. And then we'll finish up with a, discussion between Max and I on social capital. I see social capital as, you know, we always envision this, the mesh to Dell, as individual nodes, whether that node is a community,   a family, an individual, an organization,   and we have this spiderweb of connectedness   between each other. But I think that connection point   is social capital.   Mhmm. And I want to give my thoughts on that and have a discussion with my good friend Max about it. That sounds lovely.  

[00:15:11] Unknown:

You did miss out, though, before we move on to boosts. I also wanted to talk about ducks.  

[00:15:17] Unknown:

Oh, do you wanna talk about ducks? Well, I don't know anything about ducks, but you tell me what you know about ducks. Oh, no. Fuck all. I was hoping you knew something about ducks. Not really. I know people that have them. Okay. And, they're I don't like the taste of duck eggs, personally. Okay. They're like a little,   gamier.  

[00:15:34] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:15:36] Unknown:

Greasier. There's just, a certain taste.   Mhmm. Number three kid used to really like duck eggs. Mhmm. I would get duck eggs from a a friend at work, but none nobody else in the family liked them.  

[00:15:47] Unknown:

Like, actual eating the duck, though, is fucking delicious.  

[00:15:51] Unknown:

I've never eaten duck. You never eaten duck? Oh, no. Well, not Chinese.  

[00:15:56] Unknown:

Oh, roast duck is   fucking phenomenal. Is that, like a belief thing? Because you used to be a vegan.  

[00:16:03] Unknown:

No. No. There's no bull I don't give a shit. Okay. So you would eat one now if, like, you were somewhere and it was cooked? I don't eat pork because I'm a Muslim.  

[00:16:12] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm Muslim.  

[00:16:15] Unknown:

No. I just don't eat pork. Okay. Duck is not a popular dish around here. No. TBH.  

[00:16:21] Unknown:

So No. But it is delicious. This I'll add that to the list of I I often say to you and others, I'm like, if you ever meet, I'll cook you like, I just said to Barn about a full English. He was like, I've never had one. I'm like, for fuck's sake. Alright. If I ever meet you, I'll cook you a full English.   And the same now, I'll I'll cook you roast duck.  

[00:16:39] Unknown:

You've also promised to cook me  

[00:16:42] Unknown:

lamb and mint sauce. Yeah. I'll cook you that as well. Proper roast lamb. I'll do that as well. Okay. You have to stay for a few days. We'll have to do it here. Since you moved to El Salvador,  

[00:16:53] Unknown:

you can't get good lamb there from from what I understand. That's true. Maybe we could get some from Carl. Maybe we could. Yeah. So you'd have to come here to come.  

[00:17:02] Unknown:

Well, that's fine. As long as you and Sarah will lend me your kitchen, I'm sure I can work it out. Sure. Yep. Okay. Alright. Done deal. Anytime. Up to our, boosts, If anybody listened  

[00:17:12] Unknown:

to the, Booberry pod that I did by the way, thank you for lending me the mic for the confab. That was a lot of fun.  

[00:17:19] Unknown:

Thank you for,  

[00:17:20] Unknown:

using it so well. Just what an incredible part. One of the best. Oh, yeah. I I had a lot of fun doing that. The value for value ecosystem is alive and well,   and it was cool to talk to that no agenda   adjacent group because they're really a lot of the pioneers for the value for value stuff. Yeah. Definitely. Their ecosystem is deep. If you wanna understand more about their personality, go back and listen to that episode. But I was just reading the boost, and I I kinda have a a new appreciation for the value for value scene after doing that pod with Yeah. They take it to a whole different level, and, like, a lot of the stuff goes over our heads. It was good for me to listen to that, learning about the way that they're doing things. And like you said, they are pioneering things. Yeah. For sure. We'll slowly start learning from them. They do some really interesting stuff. It is cool. You're up first with the boosts, buddy.  

[00:18:09] Unknown:

Chet with 40,021   sats. What a baller.   Mhmm. I've been wasting my sats on hose and drugs lately. Time to get back to basics and support the homies and family.   Life is good.   Such a fucking constant struggle and such a delicate balance   to not go too far   off the deep end dot dot dot. I imagine that. I often think of you know, when you're like, oh, you know, he's working in the mine, bro, and, like, he brings his little roll out bed. I always think he's gonna bring some hose with him, hasn't he? You know what I mean? That'd be a tough sell. I don't think it would. Like, hey, hose. Come on up to this shack on a well pad that I'm sleeping on the floor.   I think you underestimate   his charm. I think that he's like, look. I've got a bag full of drugs.  

I've got a great beard.   Alright? Just come with me. It's gonna be cozy. We're gonna be in a shed. We're gonna be in a rollout bed. But trust me, it's gonna be worth your while. And that's where he spends, you know, his downtime.  

[00:19:11] Unknown:

Maybe it's not down. It's up.   Oi. Up next on boost, we have welder Ian   with 33,333   sets. Wrong time listener. First time a booster.   I I keep coming back to hear more of John's impressions   and Max's coffee. Great work, boy. Thank you. Thought we're gonna get a cough free pod today. Not so.   That is enough. That's enough. You know, since you moved to Puerto Rico, your your cough has kinda gone away.  

[00:19:46] Unknown:

You're going through  

[00:19:47] Unknown:

every fucking South American country.  

[00:19:52] Unknown:

I'll I'll branch I'll branch out. Yeah.   You're moving to Sri Lanka next. Guess what?  

[00:19:59] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:20:00] Unknown:

Whatever whatever I choose, it's gonna be hot. You see? Why hot? It could be in Scotland.   No. Usually nobody believe it.  

[00:20:08] Unknown:

Really?   No. No. To be fair, I wouldn't move to Scotland. No. You wouldn't. It's too cold for me. It's too do you know what though? Scotland is   really beautiful   and the people are much more friendly and funny than they are in The UK.   Mhmm.   Like I said, The UK. In England, like, generally, when I used to go up to Scotland, I'd be like, wow. People are really chatty and friendly. The same with just going further north. The further north you go, the less country and the more, like, friendly and chatty they are. And then the closer you come into London, the more country and rude and just disgusting people are. But don't you feel guilty for shitting on Northerners all the time throughout the years on your podcast? Yeah. You gotta bring them down a peg or two, mate. This Northerner, this Northerner,  

[00:20:55] Unknown:

that. It is rude. It's jealousy, isn't it? Yeah. I think so. Utexo   management.   Late stage huddle,   John slash Americans,   suppressing fagginess to save manliness.   Max, UK.   Open up your buttholes.  

[00:21:11] Unknown:

I never said that. When did I say that? I've been on the last PMM episode, I guess. Late stage huddle will make this up. Also, what He's no. Listen. This is like a media trick. Okay? I'm just reading it now,   which you know is a struggle for me. But what he's done is he said, Max, UK. And then you've read open up your butt holes as if that's what I've said, which I haven't.   And then I look, and then transcript. In the speech in the speech bubbles, there's open up. Then it's then they're closed. So so what I said was open up, and then he's inserted   your butt holes. You've inserted your butthole. There's   buttholes being inserted.  

I didn't say that. Okay. Whatever.  

[00:21:54] Unknown:

Okay. Produced a receipt, Slate Stage Huddle.   Also, Max, I liked that bit when Sole Exporter spoke about his ass cheek. I did say that.   Yeah. I did say that. And I get my ass cheek off of the person next to me on the plane.   Fundamentals.   Max unironically   suggesting I strip without saying no homo is probably the gayest moment in this show's history.   The only thing I'm stripping is people's fear and demoralization   around mathematics.  

[00:22:30] Unknown:

I like that. Eight myth randier. Usually,   when you have an hour hard stop, you ramble aimlessly for forty minutes of it. Yes. Today as well. Thank you. Yep.   Yep. Well done for staying on topic.   Jordan must have been remotely   electrocuting   via real life zaps.  

[00:22:50] Unknown:

That's not a bad idea. Maybe when you guys launch your livestream thing that he can,  

[00:22:55] Unknown:

he can have something, some kind of electrodes hooked up to you guys. I don't want to give him that control. He's already, like, messaging and bugging and, like, mid recording, you get messages. Have you got it yet? Have you got it yet? We need you can send it now. Oh, fuck. If you give him that, it's gonna be too much.   It's a really good Canadian impression. That's exactly what he sounds like. Yeah. They all sound like that. Yeah. They do. Bubba, here's my hourly rate for y'all wasting my time. Thank you very much.   Elvis has left the building. Cunt. Cunt.  

Cunt.   Cunt.   Cunt. Major say it. Thanks, Bubba.   So his hourly rate is that he's boosted us. It's minus   It was 5,000 stats, by the way. Okay. Okay. I didn't know that because it wasn't in the show notes. Yeah. And I I only do the first couple. Okay. Well, thank you, Bubba. Thank you for your reverse hourly rate there. We appreciate it. Montani   says,   more shows featuring West Virginia, please.  

[00:23:56] Unknown:

Okay.   This show could feature West Virginia. I I have to go there and pick up some gear. Okay. And I'm a little bit worried about getting through these back roads to get to the gear that I need to pick up. Why? I mean, it's bad. What's bad? The roads there in this West Virginia. They're Middlebourne, West Virginia. Okay. If you want anyone who looks that up with this piece of equipment are up on a hilltop. Boom. Boom. Rocky top kinda deal. And I don't think my trailer is gonna make it. Like, the the ass end's gonna scrape on the ground or the   Oh, shit.  

Yeah. It's it's gonna be rough. Okay. We'll see. You'll get through it. Give it a shot. Last time we were there, roads were washed out. Mhmm. So we're, like, driving through creek beds and shit to get from one side to the other, and I was like, oof, I'm not looking forward to coming to get this gear. Just take the Chinook.   Oh, by helicopter.   Sure. Yeah. No problem.   Airlifted.   Yeah.   Next up is Adapai's.   Hey. Chingity ching.   He says maybe I'll make it out the pub key someday.   Most of my free time is spent smoking blunts and working out. Last time I was in Brooklyn, I was chasing a motherfucker around a construction site with a shovel trying to kill him. That's when I decided, fuck New York City. It was right before COVID, which the communist like rules just sealed the deal for me to never cross the George Washington Bridge ever again. I said I would never go to New York City ever again, not even for a wedding or a funeral. And so far, I've held to my word. Well Okay.  

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Give it a shot. Just don't bring a shovel next time. Don't bring a shovel. He said he was going to ground in the last   episode or or boost that I read. It was like, I'm I'm keeping my head down going to ground. Yeah. On on your Q and A show. I imagine it might have something to do with blunts and shovels.   We'll see. We wish you the best.   Blunt instruments and blunts.  

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He also says, I'm an American, and I'm spiritual and badass.   You Brits are just whiny cunts. Just kidding, Max.   You're kind of badass too, the way you talk about kicking men in the balls.   Do I?   I don't know.   That's hard to keep track.  

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Laughing face. I definitely have when I was a kid. I kicked a kid in the balls really fucking hard because he grasped on me. Mhmm. But I don't think I've done it since then. Okay. And then I got suspended. I got in trouble for what he grasped me on. And then once he grasped me, then I kicked him in the bollocks and I think slapped him. And then I got suspended after that. So,   I definitely have done it, but it's not something I do, like, regularly these days. Yeah. You also used to shit in your pants, but you don't do that anymore. So we don't just move on. Never say never, mate. Occasionally, I throw one in. When you get to be married, funny.   Anyone who says they never shit their pants is lying because you get some proper bad food poisoning or, like, something really goes wrong, and I'm afraid that's gonna happen. You're in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's gonna happen.  



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Okay.  

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Let's just be honest here. No. I'm not gonna talk about that.  

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Next up for pies. Sixteen hour drive is dedication. Only a badass American would do that. US is number one in Great Britain shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Forty hours per week. He says, by the way, I love the one hour hard stop. Being that I listen on two point o speed, I only have to wear my AirPods for half an hour this morning. Namaste.   Namaste.  

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Namaste. Thank you, mate.   What's your thoughts on these AirPod thing? Half the people that I speak to who are, like, deep in the conspiracy stuff, but, like, generally right, are like, you shouldn't wear a fucking wireless headphone that's really bad, and it's this and this, that, and the and then I'm like,   your track record   is quite good. Yeah.   I would think that maybe you're right. But then at the same time, I still wear them   because what a, I don't have any wired headphones anymore, and b, it's just fucking annoying when you're, like, trying to train or, like, do something.   The wires, like, then get caught and then they pull out of your phone or whatever. Yeah. It's fucking what's your thoughts on that? Well,  

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it's probably   somewhat   true.   We've always had these radio waves   flying through the air since, you know, Marconi invented radio, and then people are worried about five g, but yet that's the same bandwidth that your the old, UHF stations used to work on. So the those frequencies have always been, you know, flying around the air. People are worried about Wi Fi. I don't know. There's a lot to worry about. It's the fact that there's that generation   and it's inside your ear and it's that close to your head that I think everybody's truly worried about. Okay. Because you you've got the same transmitting same power transmitting from your pocket in your phone. Mhmm.   Me, I wear the necklace ones with the little earbuds hang dangling down, and then you separate them and put them in your ears. Okay. That's because I I will lose AirPods.  

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I I mean, I have to have that necklace thing. But it's still wireless. They're probably right, but it it it's like   I personally have fatigue from all the things   that I have to worry about that are supposed to kill me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really can't take it anymore.   So pick your 10 things   that you really wanna get excited about   and make that part of your life.   And then say what you wanna say, but then leave eventually leave everybody else alone. Yeah. So that's that's my take with all that stuff. Is that gonna enter my 10 things that I have the bandwidth to worry about? No.  

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Same with Wi Fi. I think it's maybe true, but then and, like, people are like, why are everything in your house? Don't have Wi Fi on. At least have a kill switch after this time of night and da da da da da. And I'm like, every   fucking place I walk has Wi Fi. Like, it's not just in my house. Like, if I go through a shopping center or if I go through a strip club, if I go through a whorehouse,   if I go you know, all the places you go day to day,   it's everywhere.   Hash slots does not have Wi Fi because all of the machines are hardwired. Yeah. And we don't pay our bills either, so we would be cut off anyway.   Okay.  

Q and a says,   good show fellas. My three year old just asked me what a cunt is. Yeah. There you go. No.   Well, I'm sorry, mate, but you know, to filter,   this sort of stuff and not play it around your kids. So I'm kind of sorry, but I'm also kind of not. And he he has a laughing face, so I think he's not too upset by it. Okay. So sorry about that. John,   will you be my dad?   That's actually q and a saying it, not me, because I've said it before as well. But I think You have said it before. And the answer to both of you is, of course.  

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Aw.   Absolutely.   Thanks, dad. It'll push you on the swings? No problem. I'd love that. You need some life advice about girls? Mhmm. You're really down because a girl broke your heart?   Hey. I'm here for you guys anytime. You hear that queue?  

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I'll just call you dad if that's alright. I think q and a is more of a daddy kinda guy, but just ignore that. Don't read too much into it. Leather   daddy.   Soulex says, can you be my leather daddy? No. He doesn't. He says,  

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he says say it in his voice.  

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Can   you be my leather daddy?   It's a very bad impression. Sorry. Soulex actually says, love heart, but an orange one, a little, like, smiley, huggy, happy face thing huggy thing, and a high five or praying, one of the two.   Thank you, soulex. Mhmm. And Fomochronic   says   boosted   1,001  

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sats. Hey. Thanks, Fomochronic. Appreciate it. Next up is Thanks, mate. Chad Ferro and 33 others, shout out to Bitpunk, is typing.   Strong-arm muscle. I don't know what that means. All of these are 333   sets.  

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Mhmm. Which means something. All these things mean things, but we don't know what they mean. Like,   shout out to bitpunk.fm   is typing strong-arm.  

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Okay? But thank you. Always thank you, Chad Ferrell. Yeah. Book on tape? John is old.   Nut kicks are only left apparently, we talked about nut kicking in the last episode. I I guess so. Nut kicks are only allowed for women and children as self defense or the show jackass.   That's fair. Now we know the rules. That's fair. That's fair.   Gene Everett finally said something nice. He just has high standards.   Well, glad we met his high standards.   And to, wrap things up, Set in Stone   streamed 21,600   sats. Thank you, Set in Stone. And Projammies   streamed 16,000  

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sats as they listened. Wow. Wowee. Thank you very much. That's really nice. Good dudes. Oh, this fucker's back now. Can you hear him?  

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Yeah.   I got I got chickens singing their chicken song in the background. I don't know if you can hear that. I actually can't. Kind of the noise. Listen. We live a life. Okay. We got lives, people. You know, we live in a place. We don't got our own private studios despite having one of the most popular podcasts   podcasts in this space and, you know, long time running. What are we doing wrong? Not really not a high end,   podcast   with a studio and all this shit. Not a high end production.  

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I've got my mic rested on an outdoor little, like, shitty table. I'm, like, halfway into a bathroom   and halfway into a bedroom   recording  

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with some company who's decided that they need to cut their grass at this time. So it is what it is. Whatever. Whatever. What do you want from us? Yeah. The production value is is in, you know, the the podcasting two point o stuff and Mhmm. Got a good transcript   and custom art and a cool website.   And So if you hear a chicken or a lawnmower, so fucking what?  

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Yeah. Grow up. Fucking grow up. Stop whinging about it. Yeah.   But I will mute it while I'm not talking because it is, it's actually annoying me. So Very well. Okay. I will mute it. Well, one person who is not annoying and is grown  

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up and runs a fantastic   Bitcoin mining gear sales business is our friend altertech.io.   I was chatting with altertech.i0   the other day, and, by the way, if you missed the previous Confab episode with alter tech dot I o representative   Bing.   Let me go back and listen to that because I'm sure you guys haven't had a a chance yeah. The con fact. I haven't had a chance to listen to that episode yet since it's just dropped this morning, and I was doing   show preparations   for this, but I'm sure it was a good one.   It was very good. Avril is just like just a dude. He's like a really practical   guy.  

There's no drama or bullshit with him, and I was texting with him yesterday. And I was like, man, hey. By the way, I just wanna say thanks for sponsoring the show.   I just really, really appreciate you. We spoke on the last Action News episode about,   now is the time to work on infrastructure if you're one of these these home heating people. And I think in our PMM shows, we we probably when we talk about Bitcoin mining, we're more looking at the small scale side of things. He capture perhaps doing fun things, you know, what what Carl does with all of his different contraptions or   creating a compost pile and siphoning off the the gas produced, methane produced from the compost pile and trying to mine like that. Heat capture kind of things. Alterra is is a place where you can get those products. For instance, the bit chimney. The bit chimney kit   is for sale right now for $499.  

Now that doesn't include the hash board, but if you've been part of the Pleb minor mafia for long enough,   guarantee you you have an s 19 hash board laying around somewhere.   Guarantee it. Mhmm. If not, you can get them pretty easily. But this base shell that you get is   the beautiful bit chimney shell itself in that aluminum   extruded shape, red, kinda maroonish red and gray. Yeah. You get that beautiful case. You get fans. You get a control board.   You get the Loki setup.   You know? So that's the card that tricks it into using a 20 volts. You get a power supply. Jack Bombster.   Zack Bombster. Yeah. You get the Vonage Wi Fi card so you can fry your brain with Wi Fi and not have it wired up. So if if your conspiracy theory with all that kind of stuff, you can disconnect the Vonnets and hook directly up to the control board's Ethernet ports should you desire.  

But we spoke in the last action news about working on our infrastructure,   working on building new things. Now's the time to get a real steal on something like that so you'd be prepared for wintertime. I feel like it looks like an extension of Ironman.  

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Yeah. Yeah. It does have that vibe.   It would be nice if they could build in some sort of, like, Jarvis AI thing that you could speak   to Barn Miner and Altair. Like, you could speak through that to them.  

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How how would that what what would you say to the Barn Miner AI?   I'd normally, like, probably ask Barn for advice on what I'm wearing. Like, what do you think of this outfit? This fucking stupid, dude. What does it matter? You're just getting on a fucking T shirt and flip flops. Like, who cares, dude? Nobody fucking gives a shit what you look like.  

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Exactly. That's the sort of thing that I want in my life. Like, not Yeah. It's not abuse, but it's just, like, bringing you back down. Like, no one cares about anything you do. Just shut the fuck  

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up. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead go ahead and ask Barn Miner AI another question. See what he comes up with.  

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Consider building it in. I think it'd be nice.   What do you think about filtering,  

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fucking JPEGs and, like I don't fucking care, dude. Whatever whatever fuck it doesn't fucking matter, dude. It's all fucking gay and fucking stupid. Fucking gay and shit. Fucking care. Like, everybody just fucking, like, fucking Dorsey cucks trying to make themselves feel important,   virtue say going bullshit. It's fucking stupid, dude.  

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He's a wise old goat. You know? Yeah.  

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In his bitching and complaining   and   fuckings and dudes. Nope. Yeah. Didn't mean it that way.   You know?   Maybe we did. Those those affectations that he has. There is a lot of wisdom and and practical wisdom in there.  

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He's got the wisdom of a hundred year old goat that's really been through it and really lived, but he sounds like a 12 year old girl who skates.   Yeah. Who surfs. Yeah. Just like a surfer dude. Yeah, man. Do you know fucking I don't even fucking care.  

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Whatever, dude. Fucking guys.  

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Yeah. He is wise, though. I find myself   scarily agreeing with almost, like, 95%   of what he says. It's like, that's completely logical and right. And then, like, five percent is fucking completely retarded in country. He and I rarely disagree.   Yeah. We we love that goat.   Mhmm. Andy works for Altair tech dot I o, by the way. We're still doing a commercial for them. We are. We are. Yeah. Well, what I'm saying is that they only do things right, and they only employ things that are right even if they sound okay and like a little   girl.  



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Oh, they're tech dot I o. Promo code.   Ungovernable.   I'll extend this giveaway even though this is a, a Bitcoin mining type giveaway. I asked a friend of mine if he could tweet this out, and he never did. But that's fine. Not a very good friend. He is, though. He's just really busy. I'm giving away a multimeter,   a clamp on multimeter   as part of Action News. Because in that last Action News episode,   we tried to stress the importance  

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Sorry, mate. I just had a problem with my audio. What did you say you're giving away a strap on meter? A a clamp on   Oh, boy. What is it? Here come the boosts.  

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A clamp on multimeter.   Clamp on multimeter. Oh, okay. Alright. Meaning that you can test amperage, you know, just by clamping on one of the conductors and finding out how many amps is going through that. Okay. So we we spoke on the last action news about focusing on real things like safety.   Yeah. Yeah. Infrastructure there. And I wanted to empower people to be able to do that, so I said, you know what? I'm gonna give away a multimeter as part of that episode. You follow our sponsors for Action News, Lincoin Mining and AltarTech.io.   And you share the show, do the typical things, and I will ship you this multimeter if I pick your name out of the hat. US only. I'm done shipping internationally. Fair enough. Such an expensive fucking pain in the ass. If I pick you and you don't live in The United States, I'll give this to my kids, like, science teacher Mhmm. Or send it to somewhere, somebody that has kids, and they can do all the STEM stuff with them. Okay. That's very nice. Don't listen to what they say about you, John. You're a good guy. Oh, hey. Thanks.  

That's altertech.i0   promo code Ungovernable.  

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And you have to follow them both to have a chance of winning this   Incredible   multimeter,   which is just to check that things are grounded  

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or, like what you know, volt voltage, amperage, ohms Mhmm. Your typical   multimeter functions.  

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Do your stuffs, and you don't have to use that. You're talking about, like, you could use this thing, but it's half a million dollars and, like No. I I said 500  

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to a thousand, not 500,000.   Oh.  

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I when you said, like, it's 500,000,   I was like you're like, you know, you can do that. I was like, fucking hell. Like, who the hell is gonna do that? Purpose built ground tester thing. It's a whole kit. It comes like a mysterious  

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thing. Because you, you know, you gotta throw a ground rod somewhere else and it's gonna be spaced out, and it's 2,500  

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to a thousand   dollars. Yeah. For for those good ones. More sense. That makes more sense. Yeah. I was shocked. I was like, okay. Fuck.  

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You know, that that's something that I had suggested to Barn Miner a long time ago. Well, you know, he was having, like, stray voltage. Turns out the electrician did something wrong. But initially, in troubleshooting, I thought maybe your ground is no good because that's sandy soil there in Florida, and it's not quite as conductive as the soil that we have here. Mhmm. So I said, just have your electrician come out and see if that ground is any good. If not, you'll have to run more ground rods and, you know, wire them up in, like, a triangle.   Your whole strategy is different if your grounds aren't good. So if you're having problems, it's worth an electrician to come out with his good system and see if you have good grounds. Otherwise, you gotta throw in more ground rod. Practical advice. Or a lot of people do this thing where they'll pound the ground rod in and then, like, hit a rock and be like, well, I'm done, and then just cut it off. Oh, okay. You can pound the ground rod all the way in.  



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You've always gotta pound it all the way in. Oh, yeah.  

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Down to the ground. Taking you down to pound town.  

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Hey, Max. Do you wanna get some chickens? I really do wanna get some chickens. Yeah. I think the kids would enjoy the chickens.   I like eggs.   Maybe   six months away from actually getting some land. Mhmm. Not lots of land, but, like, more than we had. So, like, I'm not in a position where I can do cows or, like, do any, like, larger animals or anything like that. But chickens?   Yeah. I like the idea of that. I like the idea of coming out and getting fresh eggs and having those in the morning and not having to buy the kind of shop bought battery   hen bullshit.  

Yeah. I like the idea. Like, I've got a lot of questions though in terms of how much of an issue is it gonna be with predators.  

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Mhmm. I'll tell you what predators we have, and then I'll edit this bit out. Okay. So you you think somebody is smart enough to figure out where you live based on   and   Yeah.  

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That's a lot of smart listeners.  

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Fine. You live in Vietnam.   Okay.  

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So let's just say that there's one animal you now know that's ground ice. Animal in particular, yeah, that is is very,  

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slick and and tricky   Yeah. And can possibly   dig down and come back up. Yes. This is a common problem. That's a weasel family Mhmm. Animal. Mhmm. So any anybody with a sneaky fucking weasel. Mhmm. Alright.   The first thing I wanna tell you is don't overdo it. Okay.   Because you're a psycho,   and you overdo everything. Yes.   Can confirm. So just chill the fuck out Mhmm. To start with.   If one of these chickens gets eaten or all of your chickens get eaten,  

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no big deal. You can go buy more chickens. They're pretty cheap. Yeah. I guess so. It's more the massacre, like, for the kids because they're gonna make for I don't wanna have these chickens to eat them. Mhmm. I want them for, like, egg laying specifically.   So   I know that my kids are gonna be, like,   name them and, like, wanna be their friends and all that. Oh, I understand.   Yeah. We've been through it. I don't wanna come back to a massacre unnecessarily.   I know what you mean. Like, I might have the tendency to go completely over the top top here with some sort of crazy security system   and concreted, and I get that. But maybe there's, like, a middle ground of, like, let's not tempt fate.  

Mhmm. Let's make it at least that maybe these creatures look next door and are like, oh, these cunts haven't done anything. I'll I'll rob next door's chickens instead. The animals you mentioned, one is going to hunt by day and the other by night. Mhmm.  

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So the night one, I think, is probably   your biggest threat. The best thing you can do against   aerial attacks during the day, and you had mentioned   because that doesn't give away anything. That's that's everywhere in the world. Is that if you have a rooster,   that helps things out. But are you going to want to have a rooster?  

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I don't know. Are they good? Are they are they laugh? Like, are they annoying? They're annoying because they do that.  

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All that shit. They're annoying. They cock a doodle doo. Mhmm. But they also tend to the chickens in some way. If you have a good rooster, he cares about his ladies. I bet they do. Oh, yeah.   And there is this theory that fertilized   eggs   are better for you than unfertilized   eggs. Oh. And you also have the opportunity where you can get an incubator and hatch your own chickens.  

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Oh, that's true. You could sort of expand the flock.  

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Yeah. There's an advantage there that you don't have to get store bought chickens. If a chicken, you know, hatch is that you've incubated,   it imprints on you.   So they tend to be those friendly ones and sit on your lap and all that stuff, and they're not all skittish and running away. So if that's something that you've imagined in your mind, like, oh, I'm gonna go out and they're gonna sit on my lap and it'll be cute. Not really. I don't want them shitting all over me. I'm just saying. I'm just, like, laying it all out for the ink the incubator hatched chickens   are better for that because they've imprinted to you. Right. Right. Not like a factory   Mhmm.  

Which is most of the time. I would also recommend so before we get on on your your coupe and your run set up to try to figure out a way that you can provide them clean water and and healthy bedding and be protected from critters digging up underneath and come and eating their brains in the middle of night and stealing your eggs. If you can source the chickens from somebody you know around town,   like, just see if somebody has fertilized eggs, that would be good. Because I I don't know what kind of stores you guys have there. I don't know. Yeah. Forgetting chickens. And I I just imagine a place like that, you could probably just get some chickens from somebody. Yeah. I think so. There's quite a lot of chickens just, like, fucking around.  

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Yeah.   Like, you just, like, walk around. There's, like, oh, there's some chickens. There's a chicken fucking around. So I'd imagine so.   They do. They fuck around. They fuck around in the road. They fuck around, like, jumping over and into different properties and stuff. Like, they're just  

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they're fucking around. It's possible for you to start with, like, fully grown chickens because, you know, I know people that are like, oh, we had a couple roosters, and all of a sudden, I have all these damn chickens.   Mhmm. You know? Or nobody's eating eggs anymore, and I've got all these chickens, and I only really want one or two. Mhmm. So quite often, you can get grown chickens for free Okay. Just to help somebody out.   Okay. So you might could start there. If you're gonna start with chicks, then then well, your situation for us here,   we've gotta worry about how warm it gets outside   before, you know, we put them in that kind of environment. You don't have that problem living in Laos.  

Mhmm.   So you you just have to make sure that they're shaded and that they're in a good spot before you you start putting them out. For your coop, you wanna have good airflow in the coop. It doesn't necessarily   need to be completely encapsulated, but in order to get airflow and prevent critters, then you're gonna have to use something like chicken wire and dig the chicken wire down to the ground   and maybe even put some burlap on the ground so something can't dig down and then pop back up. You have to consider that. For using chicken wire, I'd recommend   making sure to   chicken wire, like, has a lot of pointy loose ends.  

Mhmm. And chickens are stupid, and they will straight up poke their eye out. And I swear to God, we've had one chicken that poked its eye out on chicken wire.   Oh god. Or another chicken pecked it out because they're assholes to each other.  

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Oh, yeah. That's something to consider then. They're just gonna fight each other all the time. You know, once they establish the pecking order, things usually  

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chill out, but you're gonna have   one chicken that they just straight up abuse,   one or two chickens that they're just mean to   Okay. For no particular reason whatsoever. We have one chicken   whose eggs,   they always dump out of the nesting boxes.   Oh. They'll push them right out. That's so rude. They've pushed them out all the way into the pen and into the run before. They hate her eggs so much.   No cunts. So, anyway, that's your setup. The heat the heat there. So this is, you might want to have a coop that you clean all the time, or   you could do the, like, the Joel Salatin deep bedding method where you start out with certain amount of carbon,   like ash,   and then you do wood chips and leaves and sawdust,   and,   you know, you have, like, a a couple foot base.  

I do mine a little bit different. Not that I'm any better than Joel Salatin, but I'm certainly not.   Don't let perfect be the enemy of good kind of thing.   And I think when people get into some of these homesteading stuff and they try to do it on a regular guy family level   Mhmm. They're like, oh, I gotta check all these boxes. I have to do it just like Joel Salatin does. But you're not a professional homesteader.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So just chill out. Yeah. You know? So me, myself, or my deep bed, I just start with some hay   and wood chips. Okay. And I started a thin layer. I don't put the carbon in or anything like   that. And then once it starts to get, you know, ammonia y and poop, I just throw in more wood chips and and more hay, and I just layer it to the point where I don't smell ammonia in in there anymore.  

Is that right? Is that wrong? I don't know. My chickens are healthy.   I've never had any problems. And then I take those wood chips out, and somebody asked me the other day, well, how long do you let it compost? And I was like, I don't know. Till whenever. I just kinda use some as mulch, and I throw the rest on the compost pile when you're ready to exchange   that deep bedding out. So if you wanna get into deep bedding and you have access to whatever you have access to locally, I assume we don't have a lot of grassland there, but maybe you have a lot of palm husks or something like that or coconut husk or you know what I mean? Mhmm. You can't do it like Northeast America because you you live in Sri Lanka.   Mhmm. You know, so you have to take that into account. So that's the deep base. Otherwise, you're gonna have to clean the coupon all the time. Okay. Alright. Which I don't wanna be doing. That would be very annoying. And what sort of yield are you getting? Like,   how many eggs are these egg miners gonna mine a week a day? Like, what? Once they reach maturity and they're, like, in the height of their laying, it's about one egg a day per chicken.  

That's pretty good. So you you're in a place where you're gonna have a lot of sunlight, so they're gonna lay through a good part of the year, probably all year long.   Mhmm. Whereas meat, they stop laying   once you have, like, less than ten hours of sunlight a day. Oh. Twelve hours of sunlight. They'll just stop laying. So the trick is a lot of people put a light   Mhmm. In the coop. And so, you know, I'm basically gonna trick you into laying eggs.   I don't do that. You know, we try to save as many eggs for wintertime as possible. We do. We don't we don't glass them and do all these things to preserve the eggs. We just don't really we're not homesteaders.   Okay. We don't treat it like we're homesteaders. I I suppose we could make that transition if if we had to.  

Mhmm. But then once they get older, their egg production starts to drop off, and then you just have, like, pets.   And so a lot of the homesteader people would say you should never really have a chicken a laying chicken for more than two and a half years. Throw that in a chicken soup. But this is your pseudo family pet.   So you're not gonna exactly treat it the same way. So you're gonna have older chickens that aren't   that productive, but you don't wanna kill them because, well, you've known them a while.  

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Okay. They're just there. They're not really gonna lay. You just keep them and just, like, they don't really produce anything. Some do, you know, but not like an egg every day. Maybe you get a egg occasionally of that bird.   Okay.  

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And you say, what am I feeding you for?   Kinda  

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And if I wanted   to have, like, a decent omelette a day and, like, feed the family, I've gotta have I've gotta have, like, 10 chickens or that kind of number upwards, really, haven't I? How many eggs do you think a day that you guys consume every day?   I would say when I'm training and, like, when I'm in the routine of eating eggs. So probably, like,   six   or eight in a day   maybe.   And then, like, the rest of the family, like, they can share one. They don't need more than that.  

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It's your egg. Split it up. Share it out. Try cutting an egg in the thirds.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. I don't know. Not easy. I would say, like, between six to 10 eggs a day would be because especially, like, I would eat more eggs if we're producing eggs because I'd be like, oh, fucking hell. Look. I'm not paying for this. Yeah. Here's some eggs. But then sometimes everybody gets sick of them. I'll tell you that for sure. We started with 11 chickens, and I think we're down to nine. Probably refresh the flock a little bit. Bring in some new blood  

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Mhmm. Here soon. I I might do that this summer.   Okay. So I I think ten's good for you guys. Mhmm. You know, once we're all filled full of eggs, then we barter for sourdough bread. That's our trade.  

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Okay.  

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We have a couple dozen eggs left. Sarah goes to her friend and who makes sourdough, and   that's the exchange.  

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Nice.  

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Yeah. So ten ish. I did have them in my mind, you know, to tell you, like, we'll start a relationship with somebody that that wants eggs. Mhmm. And then you can always get rid of eggs and   have something to trade them at least for social capital or goodwill.   Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Dozen eggs goes a long way.  

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Okay.   Basically,   buy 10.   Don't go too crazy.   If they get munched up, then, you know, it's not the end of the world. You can get some more and then you can adjust. You can do a difficulty adjustment on how to get into the coop.   Yeah. And then you have to feed them  

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seed and stuff, or can they just, like, eat bugs and stuff? Well, it depends on how much free range you have. I think the rule is something like 10 square feet   per bird of   grazing.   Okay. As in it has to be grass or it can be like shrubs and just ground coverage, basically. It can be just ground coverage, but you probably are still gonna need I don't know. You've got a lot of life there. Mhmm. They may not be able to make a living Okay. Just being able to free range   this property that you're looking at. I don't know if you told me how much land it has. There's a lot of land they won't be able to get to, so probably of, like, useful land to them. It would probably be probably not more than a third of an acre or something like that. It's not not a lot. Mhmm. Maybe they need some feed and stuff. They're gonna need some foods. Yeah. Okay. So for the most part, I don't rotationally graze my chickens or let them completely free range. Mhmm. But they do have this long run. And along the run, I've planted comfrey,   and so they can nibble at the comfrey. And then there's also raspberries on the other side of the run. So this is all summertime stuff naturally. You know, the raspberries   trickle over, and then my buddy has horses. And so I always get his old,   hay Mhmm. And throw it in there. And they have all of our table scraps and   anything that we cut from the lawn, I throw in there or tree trimming. I I throw that stuff, and I just throw whatever at them, and they eat absolutely everything.  



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Do they eat all meat and, like, every there's nothing they can't do. Do they eat chicken? Is that can't is that Yeah. They'll eat chicken. They don't care. That's cannibalism, isn't it? It is cannibalism.  

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Yeah. Somebody told me don't feed them too much chicken because they get aggressive. I swear to god somebody told me this one time. I was like, I don't know if that's true. That seems  

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silly. I've heard I've heard that about with humans. If you eat another human's brain, it turns you  

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mad? You get mad cow disease.  

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Yeah. You get some sort of, like, it really fucks you up. Yeah. So maybe it's the same with chickens. I guess just don't feed them the brains.  

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It just feels weird. Okay. I guess not. I don't know. We've we've thrown in a roasted chicken carcass plenty of times in there,   and they pick it clean. They love meat more than anything.  

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Okay.  

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It's all about what you have access to. So you have access to a lot of fruit   there. And so on this property   is there an opportunity for you to grow some fruit trees that you could feed to them instead of attracting rats   to because you've got a lot of fruit on you. You know what I mean? You you gotta use these, like, permaculture principles and and go with what's around   because they'll eat a lot of stuff.  

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They'll eat basically anything.  

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And there's a balance of protein   versus other stuff for layers. I I don't know what that is off the top of my head, but   they'll let you know what they want.   If they don't want something, I just leave it there.   It isn't like, oh, I'm gonna eat that even though I don't need it. As long as they have a variety, they'll they'll figure it out. But if you're only doing it on a third of a acre with 10 chickens, chickens are hard on grass and land and stuff. They go through it.   Maybe it's too much then. If you want to free range them, they go, like, a hundred yards at most away from the coop, something like that. And as as long as they woke up in the coop, they're gonna come back to the coop. But then if you don't have a rooster, then you're worrying about pressure   by letting them completely free range. So you could do them in some kind of enclosed paddock and then just move the paddock every day, every other day. It sounds like a lot of work.  

It does sound like a lot of work. So what that's  

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Whatever the absolute minimum is because otherwise, it gets to a point when I'm like Absolute minimum is like a square area  

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where you've got five square feet per bird   for the coop and then 10 square feet per bird for their outside area,   and then throw shit in there and they eat it. Okay. If you want them on fresh grass, you have to rotate it or let them completely free range. Then you've got all kinds of other problems. Okay. Now you're a bird tender.  

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It sounds good. Like, I love the idea of it, getting fresh eggs and stuff. I guess it was just to find out, is it gonna be one of those things? I've done it where I've done, like, vegetable patches   that that I was growing. It was really just to find out, is it a complete fucking waste of time, and should you just buy eggs, or actually, is it kinda worth it? Well, I don't know what your eggs cost there.  

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$4   a box of six or something like that.   $4 for six?  

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Something like that. I don't know. Yeah. Get some chickens, buddy.  

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Okay. That's crazy. Here, when Aldi's was 89   a dozen, okay, even though the those eggs don't have the nutritional value of pasture raised backyard chicken   eggs. It's still 89¢.   That's a hard sell there.   Deal with the stuff in wintertime and not laying and change of water all the time. But eight dollars a dozen.   Yeah. That makes sense to me as long as you're doing the things like   you grow whatever crap grows there that's green, and you throw it in there, and you throw all your food scraps in Mhmm. And just use whatever you can get locally. And don't, like, force a square peg into a round hole and say, like, I have to feed them scratch grain. But yet scratch grain is $30  

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a bag here Mhmm. Where I live. Well, don't do that. Maybe it's not $8. I need to I need to actually have a look what it is. But I know in The UK, like, if I wanted decent eggs, like, if I wanted   free range,   like,   non battery farm stuff, I'm pretty sure it was, like maybe it's, like, four pound fifty   for for six. So, yes, it probably is about that. It's probably similar.  

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But it's not cheap. It's not cheap. Okay. Try it at home. Maybe not maybe not start with 10. Maybe start with 5. Start start yeah. Like I said at the beginning, don't go over the top. Give them somewhere to to get in. It's warm.   You know, you're never gonna have to worry about them freezing to death.   Mhmm.   You know, the warm thing. Well, okay. Well, now you're gonna change water more often. Now you gotta make collect eggs twice a day if it's a hundred degrees outside.   Mhmm. But just start small. See see what you're into. Okay. You're not a homesteader.   No. I'm not. Okay. Oh, also, I one more thing I wanted to say to you that given that tropical environment, kinda worry about other bugs that I don't think are so bad here, like ticks and stuff like that. Are ticks bad there? Oh, I have no idea, to be honest. Okay. Get them some diatomaceous   earth for them to take dust baths in. Okay. That's the solution for that. Okay. And then well, I don't know what rocks they have access to, but oyster shells, I'm sure you can get that pretty cheap there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's all. That's all I can think of. So, generally, for anyone who has a bit of land,  

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we're basically saying, if you have a bit of land, if you have a little bit of time, it's probably worth it. Get some chickens.  

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It probably is worth it, but chill out. Don't get all fucking crazy. You know I'm going to, but I'll I'll try. Yeah.   We also know a lot of other neurotic people, and it doesn't have to be one of these   neurosis fueled projects.   You lose a chicken, something goes wrong, oh, well.   Yeah. Just a chicken.  

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We're sort of six months out, so we'll revisit this a bit further down the line, see how we're getting on. Looking forward to it. Before we move on to our, closer for the show, let's talk about Lake Satoshi.  

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My favorite Bob Seger song. I think I've played this one   most.   It's good song.   Oh, lake to see It it you know, now that, when is the Bitcoin conference? Is it, like, tomorrow or something?  

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It's soon, isn't it? I've I've been terrible with dates. I'm not sure exactly.  

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Our bugle friends,   another guy who the fundamentals knows, Jeremy Pauley,   like, has a production company and the bugle people are doing an event in Las Vegas.   Yeah. And, man, I just am really feel terrible that I'm not making that. I don't care about that conference or anything, but I really wanted to go to that.   It'd be great. I'm sure that would be great, but the rest of it, not so much. Oh, not so great. But what is great, a %, and there isn't like, oh, this part sucks, and this part's good, and is Lake Satoshi August second this year in Lansingburg, Michigan?   Super breezy,   super cool event.  

It is at a quarry, like a sand quarry.   So when they're not doing Lake Satoshi stuff in certain times of the year, they, like, drain parts of the lake and dig out sand   for,   construction sites.   Mhmm. So that's that's what this excavating company does.   But when they're not doing sand out of the lake, it is completely filled up. It's ready for recreation.   They've got a slide diving board, a big gazebo area. They've got a large shop where they have events and, speakers. Outside of that shop, they're gonna have a little bit of a marketplace.   Some of us Meshedale folks are gonna have our own little marketplace, little quiet thing, coffee shop kind of vibe with Otis Bittmeyer. I might sell some bullshit there. Evian Park Candles might be there. Not sure yet. We'll see how that all shapes up. But bring your family,   bring your kids,   prepare to have fun,   hang out with people,   make some food, sit down, have a campfire,   great conversation with friends, get rid of all the other bullshit. There's gonna be no arguments about ordinals there. There's not gonna be talk about decentralization.  

I mean, there could be talk,   but it'll be breezy and cool.  

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Boo Berry seemed very excited by Lexi Toshi.  

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He did. I I hope he comes. Sarah said to me the other day, she's like, oh, the Boo Berry seemed excited about Lexi Toshi. I hope he comes. He seems cool.  

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Yeah. He did seem cool. I was like, yeah. He's one of us. Yeah. He's an ungovernable misfit.   Absolutely.   Yeah. Maybe he will come. But it just goes to show that, like, people do crave that kind of interaction and the, you know, you really can't find that at these other bigger conferences. It's it's just a completely different thing. And so that's why we say all the time, we're like, Blake's Toshi surely just keeps growing and growing because more and more people will want like, they'll crave that kind of, like, real interaction.  

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You're not driving your car to Nashville or Las Vegas or Miami   and saying, I'm gonna bring a tent, and I'm gonna sleep on the ground, and it'll be no problem.  

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Not happening. Do you think suspense will get out there as well? I don't know. Is he he in, Missouri? I don't know where he is. I think we talked about it with him as well. I think he sounded quite keen, and him and Boobury obviously know each other. Maybe they come down together. They're in different states.   Okay. Well, I don't know about all your states and stuff. Yeah. Fucking hell. You're be you're in America. Jesus Christ. It's all very practical.  

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It's completely possible that somebody can drive three, four hours away. I mean, we've talked about with Bubba. He plans on doing this on a motorcycle coming from Arizona.   That's pretty damn far away. Yeah. You would think like, okay. I wanna go to Vegas. Okay. Great. So Vegas is going to be $500 for a plane ticket, another $500,000   for a hotel room, plus whatever bullshit food that I have to buy. That's a $1,500   trip. And and so I told the Buegel guys, I said, listen. I really wanna come, but at this point in what I'm doing, like, taking that time off and spending that money would just be irresponsible.   But getting away for a weekend, going to somewhere where listen. If if you forgot   soap or something,   somebody's gonna be able to to let you borrow soap or borrow some kind of food or or feed you or, you know, watch your kids. It's a community atmosphere. It's not a conference.  

And so it's practical for somebody to say, you know what? I think I am gonna go to that for the weekend. No problem. Mhmm. I got $50 in gas, another $50 in food, case of water. It's practical. This is attainable. This is something you can do. Consider putting it on your summer plans.  

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Consider doing it. Consider going to Lake Satoshi.  

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Where   you can build yourself some social capital.   I've written a little piece. This isn't my normal long did you read it? You just want me to read it to you? No. I like you reading to me.  

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Read it to me, dad.  

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Social Capital, the genesis link of sovereign nodes.   Took me a while to work on that title. A little bit longer than I would have liked.  

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Mhmm.  

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That's nice, though. You can tell the the work's gone into it. Oh, thank you. Yeah.  

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When I look at all of the discussions the mesh now has had over the years about the eight forms of capital, I'm first grateful that crazy Carl introduced the concept to us, but I'm also then drawn to pondering   how I can improve upon those forms.   And   social capital   often grabs my attention.   I see it as the foundation upon which all other forms of capital are built.   Intellectual material and new financial capital rely on the strength of relationships we cultivate.   As John Don penned, and I don't know why I quote this so fucking much, but as John Don penned in the seventeenth century meditation   17   from devotions upon emergent occasions, no man is an island entire of himself.  



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Oh, you love this one. Yeah. Continent,  

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a part of the main. I tell you why I love it so much is because   that's really what I I always, like, used to envision myself   as. Like, oh, an island. Just gonna   be a hermit   and do my own thing and detach from everybody else. It's long before I had a family.   That's the lifestyle. Nomad   freaking just riding my motorcycle in in the desert in the middle of nowhere as if I can completely detach.   And then as I've gotten older, I've gotten over that fantasy,   and then I kinda think think about this quote often.  

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I think you'd be Bermuda if you were gonna be in Ireland.  

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Is that right? Yeah.  

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Too much. Right out in the middle of fucking nowhere. And if anyone gets a bit too close,   they fly in or go by boat, they might go missing.  

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I would more I think it'd be more like Shetland or something like that, something in the Where the little ponies come from. Yeah.  

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Yeah. I like those Shetland ponies. They're fucking useless, but I just think they're really funny. Every time I see them, I'm like, ah, that's good. I like that. Aren't you hilarious?   Okay. I'd so you would be Shetland.  

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Yeah. I'm gonna go for something something more rugged.   Okay. I have to suffer. If if I'm gonna do that, I'm going to suffer.  

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Okay. Fair enough.  

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When it comes to intellectual   capital, for instance, much of what we know comes from those who came before us. It's far more efficient to learn from another person through a direct connection rather than abstract materials.   Even incredible learning sources like YouTube can't replace the physical connection   like the master apprentice relationship.   A relationship built on trust fosters that master apprentice dynamic,   where knowledge flows naturally between individuals,   elevating both parties.   Often, the master can learn just as much from the apprentice.   The same goes for cooperative work amongst those at the same skill level and knowledge base. The cooperative efforts magnify their intellectual capital.  

Social capital   made these efforts possible,   allowing these connections to be a tool of personal and communal growth.   Forging the social bonds that serve as the genesis link of our mesh to del sovereign nodes demands effort,   often marked by pains and pains in the asses.   We know many, many pains in the asses.   We do.   It's so funny, you know, as as we try to build these social bonds between each other. How many people just wanna be snarky and interject   and, you know, do mic drop bullshit?   I love being snarky. You do love being snarky.   But somebody else, like, that that's their entire personality. And sometimes I feel like saying, you realize we're we could be having real impactful conversations with one another here,   but you've decided to interject in this long string of discussion and discourse   with,   I don't know, a cat. Equippy little   yeah.  

So those are the pains in the asses that I'm talking about.   These bonds, the initial connection   of our mesh network of citadels,   homesteads, communities, individuals, and families united by shared commitment to freedom and sovereignty,   ignite the growth and transference of intellectual capital,   the knowledge we exchange across nodes.   Overcoming differences requires work. I really had a hard time making this point, but I'm gonna read it, and then please ask me what you think I mean so I I get it right. Right? So overcoming differences   requires work,   but I don't think that work is diversity for its own sake. I think that's not inherently beneficial.  

I think it's malarkey.   You know, that it's saying, we've got differences, so let's pile on more diversity, and that'll somehow   negate out all of our differences. Mhmm. Where I think homogeneous groups like the Amish thrive because their moral and ethical foundations are aligned. Mhmm. They conserve energy. Otherwise, it's spent debating core values. They they already know where they all come from.   I go on to say this cohesion drives their productivity.   Within our mesh, intellectual   diversity is essential to strengthen ideas, but it must be anchored in shared values.   Social capital enables us to navigate these differences,   fostering the exchange of knowledge across our network. Without it, division would weaken us, especially when the hard times come.  

Does that does that make sense? Does that paragraph make sense in a hard time model? I think it makes sense because we  

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generally, I think we are kind of all   on the same page for most things.   Yeah. There'll be petty differences, and that shows up with all this, like, fucking running knots stuff and whatever else, whichever side people are on. But that really is petty because it's that's just, like, difference   in the way you understand something   where   everyone generally still wants   freedom   and wants control over their own money and all the good stuff there. That's just like a difference in understanding or the way that you think you understand something. It's blown out of proportion. It's actually very minor. Whereas I think   people who would go at it at each other on something like   that, generally, if they just sat and had a drink and had a chat with both their families together somewhere, they'd probably have a good time. And, like, generally, they'd be like, yeah. More freedom, more control.  

Fuck the state. Like, generally, people are pretty,   aligned in terms of their morals. So in theory, they could build better together than the average person.  

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Build back better.   That's what I like to do.   And I didn't also didn't wanna come across, like, I think I like what the Amish do, but it is not necessary for a group to be completely homogeneous   in order to effectively accomplish something. But they do you know, like you were saying, they do have to have that foundational   part that that foundational morals Yeah. Definitely. To build on top of. Well, it makes it a lot easier  

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when you sort of, like, you have roughly the same goals   and, like, ethics and stuff like that. Mhmm. Like, you know,   generally, you know, if you're, like, sit with most people in the, like, you're at Lake Satoshi,   no one's gonna be like, oh, I think we should, like, bring a load of trannies around to, like, read storybooks in their underwear. You know? Everyone's gonna be like,   don't be so fucking weird. Cross train,  

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trainee story hour off of the list.  

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I better call Otis that we're we're not gonna have that at the coffee shop and make sure they don't have that. If you go to other places, like some of the more woky states and, like Mhmm. Different groups where they'd be like, hold on a minute. You're doing an event   where you don't have trannies reading to children. Like, what are you doing? You've missed a trick here. Because it would be obvious to them that that is the best thing that you could   do. So that's where those two, like, trying to merge those two worlds is just never gonna happen because, fundamentally,   your beliefs, your ethics, your morals, what you believe to be good and right   are completely polar opposite, and it's practically impossible then to move forward   when you're so different. But if you're   fifty, sixty, 70, 80 upwards percent aligned,   then you can get past the other differences. Like, I will not. So I'm like, well, it's kinda gay, but I'll still drink one of you and, like, we'll still be friends, and I don't really give a fuck. I just I think it's a bit gay, but the rest of you is cool. It's also a a priorities thing. I I just thought over the past week, jeez.  



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How much time and energy did people lose forever?   You've lost all of that forever. And some people even damaged   their social capital with their mouths.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why? For what? Why? You could do it the other way. You could you could really build some social capital with your mouth, Debbie.  

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What? Damn me.  

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Damn me.  

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Moving on. You know, one once we get too immature, then I know it's time to move the show a lot.   Childish.   When difficult times arise and they will,   bullshit and drama abound. Boy, that that segue nuts.   And the true value of social capital becomes clearer.   The people who have treated you well in the good times,   those who offered their support without expecting anything in return,   are the ones you can count on when the world shifts.   Social capital is more than pleb connection or an IRL friendship.   It is a resilient system of mutual trust that endures through adversity.   Friends and family who have demonstrated loyalty and integrity in good times are your safety net when hard times inevitably strike.  

Remember this, everyone is your homie when the times are good.   But when the going gets rough,   well, you'll see who's a homie and who's not. Ain't that the fucking truth? Everybody's your buddy at the bar. Oh, yeah.   Social capital extends far beyond your immediate circle.   Those groups are our ungovernable misfit social groups. They're made up of hundreds of people distributed all throughout the world.   For the most part, relationships   there are more in the realm of acquaintances.   Some are IRL friends, but many just an Internet chat room. The point I'm trying to make here is that even though these are our ungovernable misfits family social groups, there are still lessons to be learned and relationships built that could extend into the members of those groups' personal lives, your family lives, your your physical communities.   The intellectual capital we gather from broader networks, whether through groups like we have here in Ungovernable Misfits, the Meshedale, the Piedmont or Mafia, they enrich not only our ourselves but our local communities.  

The lessons learned from those relationships extend outward, benefiting family, friends, and colleagues.   What begins as a connection between individuals becomes a mesh network of shared wisdom   applied to our IRL   lives.   This interconnectedness   strengthens the fabric of our communities,   allowing us to build something greater than the sum of its parts.   I think that's self evident, but, you know, it seems silly, like, something I learned in the Blood Miner Mafia, I can extend to   my local community   and benefit   it. But it's not. You so you learn some kind of home heating trick, and you take it down to your your local farmer's market, and somebody realizes there, oh, I've got, cheap free energy, and I can heat this, you know, room in my barn. So it's something like that. You you never know where these ripples are going to extend to. Yeah. The point I'm trying to make there is you're not just chatting with your buddies. It has ripple effects beyond, especially if you're doing it well. Mhmm. Maintaining social capital takes effort.  

Relationships, like any living thing, must be nurtured. Check-in on our friends. Join the mesh to del calls on the eighth of every month. Show up.   True care and consideration for others solidify these connections.   When it's genuine,   people feel it. That authenticity builds spiritual and cultural capital. And if you're consistent in your beliefs,   grounded in something deeper, you become a pillar in the community, a rock others can lean on. Sometimes they ask if you could be their dad.   No. No. Yeah. And I know what you're gonna run into. In times of civilizational   collapse or societal upheaval, social capital takes on an even greater significance.  

As the systems we've relied on falter,   communities that are bound by trust, shared values, and mutual support will be the ones that endure. The pleb community has the potential to transcend   organizing   solely by race or culture, and we've done that. Back to this idea, it's like you can have this completely homogeneous group like the Amish that are that are the same in everything, even how they dress.   Mhmm. Or you can have this cantina from Star Wars United Nations   meme   of every different culture in the world, and neither of those things   have value just on their own,   homogeneous community   or ridiculous diversity.  

Once again, I'm trying to make the point that you'd be have a foundation of morals and ethics   Yeah. That that transcends everything else.   And   instead,   we can emulate the approach I experienced in the marine corps. A marine's identity is not rooted in race, but in a shared mission and purpose.   In the marine corps, we didn't see ourselves as black, white, or brown, although we did. It's some of the most racist people in the world, but everybody's still your brother. So you can be super racist to them because you you love and care about them like a brother would.   We were all just different shades of green.  

Black marine was called dark green. A white marine was called light green, so on and so forth. What mattered was not where you came from or the color of your skin, but your dedication to the core and its values.   By rallying around shared goals, whether it's freedom, self sovereignty, or resilience, we can build plebeian networks that thrive on cooperation,   mutual respect rather than division.   Social capital isn't merely the connection we make, but what we do with those connections. We can talk, learn, and grow together, but the real strength comes   when we apply those lessons within our families and communities.  

That's how we build resilience.   That's how we improve ourselves both physically and spiritually.   It's how we raise our kids with love and integrity, support our friends, and how we help our neighbors and even strangers amongst us.   If you want to be a part of something greater, keep listening to the PMM   show on Ungovernable Misfits.   Ask for an invitation to the Meshedale.   If you're more mining centric, the Pleb Miner mafia. In these groups, we discuss and bond over everything from permaculture to parenting,   mental motivations   to peer to peer mesh networking, mentorship, parallel economies, and maintaining morals. But don't stop there.  

Take those lessons and apply them to your life, your family, and your local community.   Together, we can build stronger bonds, raise our children well, love our families deeply, and truly help those around us. True social capital is real action in the real world with  

[01:22:16] Unknown:

real people. That's lovely, John.   I  

[01:22:21] Unknown:

I don't know if you're trolling me when you say that after I read these things.  

[01:22:27] Unknown:

No. It was good. It was good. I was being a cunt, but it is good.   And, yeah, the point stands.   It is the most important thing is, like, what your morals are and what you're building towards. And I think we've got some really good groups with the plug miner mafia, with the mesh to Dell, with TSB, which is kind of like an extension at this point. And then all the other interactions that we have around it, like, as a general rule,   we are around a lot of people who do care about freedom. Mhmm. Whether that is on a grander scale or whether it is just for themselves and their families, it's a good group of people to be around, and there's not much of that in the outside world. We're pretty lucky. We're pretty blessed to have the people around us that we do. And, yes, we're very different Mhmm. In a lot of ways, but having the different skills, you know, you've got some of us who are more physical, manual,   logic type people, and then you've got some people who are, like, amazing at running businesses, and you got some people who are really good at marketing, and you've got some people who are fucking tech geniuses.  

And, you know, you you just got all these different types of people, and we are starting to see   more and more people working together and building together in different ways, and that's kind of the dream of the. So we're getting there, mate. The real diversity is our strength.  

[01:23:47] Unknown:

Yeah. This kind of diversity is your strength.  

[01:23:50] Unknown:

Yes.   Agreed. Have we got a, like, a nice outro? Or Mm-mm.  

[01:23:59] Unknown:

We'll think of one. We'll You can think of one. The Soul Craft was gonna be the outro. Oh. You said you wanted it on the intro, so I played it.  

[01:24:07] Unknown:

Should we have it on the outro as well? Because now we've had, like, a nice moment where we're reflecting on what we have and Yeah. How lucky we are and, like, I don't want us to end in a way that's, like, too happy, easygoing. Everything's okay. Let's now get back to we've still got some cunts to fight, and we've got some people around us who can help us, and we can stand shoulder to shoulder with, but we've got some cunts to fight. Let's let's get at it, please.  

[01:24:32] Unknown:

Okay. I I'm gonna give you another Bad Brain song. How about that? We'll go come in now with Bad Brains. Yeah. Okay. We'll figure it out. Alright. Okay, buddy.  

[01:24:41] Unknown:

Alright, mate. Good. Always a pleasure, not for a chore. No. Not at all. You're my you're my best buddy. And my son.  

[01:24:49] Unknown:

Yeah. That's nice, isn't it? Here it is. Here's the Bad Brain song.