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• Passport dark mode now available to order (or will be by the time we release this)
• New Passport cases by BC
• Foundation turned 5 yesterday!
• Q has a new website
• Max AOB
• NoBS Bitcoin taking a break

NEWS

• Another BitAxe block
• FINCEN Surveillance limit lowered
• Man held in contempt for refusing to surrender 119.65BTC
• No, the EU is not stealing anyone's savings
• Pirate Bay co-founder dies in plane crash
• Samourai defense analysis

UPDATES/RELEASES

• Zeus v0.10.0
• Phoenix v2.5.0 + 2.5.1
• RoninDojo v2.2.0
• Ashigaru v1.1.1
  • Ashigaru code review
• Nunchuk Android 1.9.64
  • Q <> OS group wallet testing
• Orange Surf Grid
• Linux on GrapheneOS
• Simplex v6.3
• Nym VPN released
• LN SIM expands to cover all of Europe
• Underrated privacy tools on LN

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[00:00:04] Unknown:

Bitcoin   is close to becoming worthless.  

[00:00:11] Unknown:

Bitcoin.   Now what's the Bitcoin?   Bitcoin's like rat poison.   Yeah.   Oh. The greatest scam in history.   Let's get it.  

[00:00:27] Unknown:

Bitcoin will go to fucking zero.   Welcome back to The Bitcoin Brief, the show where me and q and a catch up every two weeks to talk about Bitcoin,   privacy,   open source,   keeping your Bitcoin secure,   and the news and software updates that matter.   I just wanted say a massive thank you to everyone who's been supporting Ungovernable Misfits   and a big thank you to Foundation Devices   for supporting the show. If you haven't already checked them out, go to foundation.x,XYZ.   They make cypherpunk tools for fuckwits, and anyone can use this, even me. If you have any questions or you want to reach out, feel free, and I'll be happy to go through things with you. For anything super technical, I'll pass you on to q. If you wanna buy one of these incredible passports,   use the code ungovernable.  

It will get you a discount, and it will let them know that I'm shilling.   I'd also like to say a huge thank you to the k Wallet team.   Not only are they supporting this show, but they're also bringing out some incredible features.   For those of you who actually use Bitcoin   and actually care about their privacy and security,   Cake Wallet make it incredibly simple for you to live outside of the traditional financial system. You can use Cake Pay within the app to buy gift cards   for food, petrol, and whatever else you might need day to day. You can use silent payments,   and, of course, you can use Monero.  

You can connect both Bitcoin and Monero nodes,   use coin control,   and this team are constantly innovating,   and I'm really excited to be working with them. If you have any questions, you can reach out to me, but check them out at cakewallet.com.   Download the APK   or start using this today   on Mac, Windows,   Linux,   iPhone,   or of course, your Android device.   Enjoy the show.  

[00:02:44] Unknown:

Good morning.   Howdy. Howdy. How are you, sir?  

[00:02:48] Unknown:

I'm actually really well. How are you?  

[00:02:51] Unknown:

Yeah. I have no complaints whatsoever. It feels like it's been longer than usual since we've recorded. I guess that's probably because it has been longer than   which makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't leave the listeners high and dry, did we? We have stuck to the normal schedule, but our recording schedule   has not been its usual every other week. So just feel like a lot longer than usual.  

[00:03:14] Unknown:

Yeah. We had one cat. The last one was at Ben's, was it? It was the five guys in a woodshed. Yeah. Yeah. Absolute carnage. You two wanking over Nosta and Plenty more where that came from. Feddy Mints.  

[00:03:30] Unknown:

Yeah. That was good. It was good to meet up with the boys and, see what they've been up to.  

[00:03:34] Unknown:

So what we got on this week?  

[00:03:36] Unknown:

Busy Week Foundation.   I can now release the worst kept secret known to man   because by the time that this goes out on Wednesday or Thursday,   it will be officially live and on the website. Passport   dark mode   or stealth Yeah. Pull away   is now active and live on the website for you to go and order. Mhmm.   Same passport,   well, quote unquote, batch two. We are changing the name to be Passport Core just to keep things simple. So the passport that you know and love that you see us and hear us talk about on all of these podcasts   It is now called Passport Corp, and you can now buy it in stealth mode where it's fully blacked out with some beautiful good metal gray,   buttons and kind of markings. And, obviously, you'll be able to see all of that on the website by the time that this goes live. Super happy about that one. And at the exact same time, we've actually sold out of the classic colorway, the white and the copper.  

Okay. No timescales on when that's back in stock at the moment. So any passport orders placed on the website as of being live, the only one available is stealth mode. Oh, nice. That'll be clearly stated on the website, but just wanna quickly state it here as well. I think you should have called it bat mode or something, though, like dark night edition.   Dark night edition. Yeah. Yeah. We we went for the more, I   guess, expected classic colorway and stealth colorway. Just speaks to the normies a bit more, doesn't it? Yeah. It does look good though. Because I was thinking when you were saying, oh, yeah. All blacked out. I was like, this could be done really nicely or really shit. Like, it could just be all matte black and it'd be really boring. Yeah. But actually, what you guys have done is really nice. Anyone who hasn't seen it, go and have a look. It's gonna be on my desk very soon. I'm gonna order a couple. The buttons are a beautiful gunmetal gray just provides just enough contrast. Like you said, it could have been done where it's just looked a bit boring, but Yeah. It's just nice, very subtle accents just bought in keeping with the stealth mode. So and also to be clear, we are still manufacturing these at the moment, so there is gonna be, like, a six week lead time. So it's not a case of you place your order as soon as you hear this because you're excited and it comes in three days. Mhmm. We're looking at a five to six week manufacturing time, which probably puts them somewhat in line with when we start to ship Passport Prime as well. Yeah. I was just about to say. We sent an update out to all of the Passport Prime customers   at the back end of last week just to say that as with all manufacturing, we've experienced a little bit of a delay, which has pushed back the expected ship time for early access customers back to the April. So nothing too catastrophic. Just a couple of weeks.  

All in. Doing everything we can to get those out the door ASAP and appreciate everybody's patience.  

[00:06:16] Unknown:

Very nice.  

[00:06:17] Unknown:

Speaking of foundation stuff as well, did you see, what Black Coffee's been up to with making a a new rugged box case for the passport core?   Yeah. I did see that actually. I didn't know that was coffee though. I just saw it with, like, you know, the foam in there and ruggedized, like, camera case kind of thing, isn't it? That's it. Yeah. Just like a little a flip open rugged box. Looks I presume, knowing coffee, it's probably gonna be three d printed. It looks like great quality with, like well, you can I'm looking at the website now. You can actually two. You can get one with a three d printed liner, which I presume is kind of, I guess, a bit softer maybe, but perhaps not if it's three d printed. And then there's also an option for a Welsh oak wood liner.  

[00:06:58] Unknown:

Oh,   I wonder where that's made. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:07:03] Unknown:

And the case color, you can get black or orange. Okay. It looks like it's got a nice little rubber seal around the edge of the lid. So I don't see anywhere where he's claiming this to be waterproof, but I'm guessing that that's in there maybe to give at least some water resistance. I'll have to get some more info on that. I would guess so. I I I don't think he'll claim it even if it is. But Yeah. It's a slippery slope that one isn't it to start claiming stuff.   Yeah. Voting accident proof.   Exactly.   But, it looks great and I didn't know he was doing this. He just sent me a photo and I was like holy shit. We posted it on the Foundation   Twitter account, and then everybody was like, where can I buy one? So I said to coffee, I said, look. You need to get these up on the store ASAP.  

Yeah. Yeah. As always, didn't take him on. Very nice. And you guys turned five. Is that right? Yes. Foundation turned five this weekend.   Wow. Yeah. Pretty big milestone for the company. I've been there myself now for   over three years.   Mhmm. Getting on for four, I think. Yeah. Closer to four than it is to three. And it's just been a pleasure to see the company go from strength to strength, the team grow,   product suite ever growing.   And, yeah, it's just a wonderful place to work. So nice to see that we had our fifth birthday and maybe some mini celebrations when we all meet up in Vegas in a few weeks.  

[00:08:19] Unknown:

It's gone so quick. I think I've been probably   speaking to Zac slash sponsored for   five years. It's gotta be close to that because it was, like, the very, very, very I think I was probably the first sponsorship you guys did, and I think it was I think I've got Zac on   I think it was 2020.   I'd have to go back and look, but I remember him sending me one out and me being like, yep. I like this. This is good. I can see where this is going. It's gone, like, so slowly, but so fast at the same time. It's like the same thing people say about kids. Oh, yeah. Every day feels long, but the the years roll quick, and it's kind of been the same in this  

[00:08:58] Unknown:

weird Bitcoin world. Yeah. It's been a great ride and here's to another five or hopefully 50 years as well. Yeah. Good fun. Exactly.   In other news, I've been busy in my free time as well, my evenings and weekends, putting together a new website. I don't know whether you've seen it. I know you've been, offline for a little bit. I have not seen it. What's this?   The listeners, especially John, I'm sure many others will be thrilled to know that I've put together a Nosta educational website   designed for onboarding people. Here we go.  

[00:09:29] Unknown:

Nosta hub. All of you wanking off over fucking nostring.  

[00:09:34] Unknown:

The domain is hellonosta.xyz.   Okay. Very proud of you, actually. It's probably the best looking one I've ever put together. And link will be in the show notes, of course. Bit of a funny story with the domain. I got rug pulled with the domain. What? Hello nosta.xyz   was not the original one. Right. The original one, which I was very surprised that I was able to   well, in hindsight, I wasn't able to purchase it, but I kinda was I thought you were. Anosta.guide.   Mhmm. It was there, and I was like, oh,   okay. Mhmm. Obviously knew that I wanted to build this type of website anyway. I bought it. They took the funds from my account and everything. It was great. I was like, okay. Great. So this was before I'd started building the website. Mhmm. So then I went away and started building all the website locally with all of the name, Nosta.guide,   all the images and stuff like that. Yeah.  

Went to go and publish, like, a first draft to share with a few people, see what they thought about it, went to link up the domain, and the the domain, nosta.guide, just wasn't in my list on Namecheap. I was like, what Ugh. On here. Checked my account balance, and my account balance was back up to the as if they'd never taken the money.   So I was like, did I imagine this or something? I was like, I'm I'm convinced I went through the payment process and everything. I checked my emails and stuff, and it was all in there saying, yep. Congrats. You've that you now own this domain. And then then I just went back and it just wasn't there. I went on as if I was gonna buy that exact same domain again.   And they said it was sold in 2022.  



[00:11:01] Unknown:

That's so disgusting.  

[00:11:02] Unknown:

I have no idea what went wrong. I don't know how I've got down the purchase process, and I have confirmation emails and everything.   Weird one. I was gonna dispute it, but I thought I don't use my own name on Namecheap, and I don't think that that's abiding by their terms and conditions.   So I didn't really want to   draw attention to my account No. No. Creating a dispute. Right? So I was like, let's just chalk it with Phil Lawson,   find something else, and that something else was hello nosta.xyz.  

[00:11:30] Unknown:

So Well, hello nosta.xyz   looks   really nice. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the aesthetic here. I was thinking it was gonna be your normal, like, blog post thing, which is great for people who can read, but for me, it was a bit vloggy. And this has got some pretty pictures.   It's all nice and purples and pinks, and it's really smart. I like it. Yeah. I wanted to make it a bit more  

[00:11:56] Unknown:

visual than before. Mhmm. I would run it too much because I know this is predominantly a Bitcoin show. If you are interested, go and check it out.  

[00:12:03] Unknown:

Yeah. Very nice. Talking of being rug pulled on Bitcoin y stuff, I had one of the worst rug pulls you can ever imagine.  

[00:12:11] Unknown:

Uh-oh.  

[00:12:12] Unknown:

You know, there's quite a special newspaper   that went out on 01/03/2009.  

[00:12:18] Unknown:

Oh, no. Yes. I do know what you mean.  

[00:12:21] Unknown:

I searched early days of bitcoin,   high and low, because I was like, I want that. I remember people being like, oh, yeah. It's like a million quid. You can't buy it. I can't maybe Trace Mayer had one or something like that. I was like, I fucking want one of these. So I spent weeks and weeks and weeks just scouring through the Internet,   scouring through everyone who hoarded newspapers   and seeing if I could find one from them and buy it from them in cash, sending out emails like proper nerdy fucking shit. I really went for it. And then I found a   company on fiftieth page of Google who was like a historic newspaper thing. You know, you can, like, buy it for someone's birthday. You can buy their birthdays one, and it's, like, stored.  

And I ordered it. I tried it with millions of these places, and I finally ordered it. And I was like, okay.   This is good. And then they sent me a confirmation thing. Yeah. Would and then they sent me a a postage thing saying it's gonna be sent out.   And then they sent me, oh, sorry. There's been a system error. We don't have that date. We have the date before and the day after if you want either of those. And I was like, you can't. I'm I'm almost certain that someone has just They've realized the importance of it. Yeah. Yeah. Like, because it was all ordered and stuff and, like, just about to be sent out, and I was like, I fucking made it in life here. This is amazing. And then, yeah, rug pulled at the last minute. Out of interest, what were they charging for one of those papers? It was, like, £25.   Oh.  



[00:13:50] Unknown:

I know. I was like, I fucking But you thought all the Christmases had come at once?  

[00:13:55] Unknown:

Well, yeah, my plan was buy it, sell it, and then pile whatever I'd sold into corn, or I'd probably be it would be bought with corn anyway, like, from whoever's gonna have that sort of money. And it was like silly numbers that people were paying for them. So I, I'd be a very rich man right now, but there we are. Someone else's.  

[00:14:13] Unknown:

Nightmare.   Oh, sorry for your loss.   What about you, mate? Any other,   business you've been up to much? Anything exciting?  

[00:14:23] Unknown:

I've been up to loads, but nothing I can talk about, unfortunately,   but all good stuff.   Might do a little update maybe next time we speak possibly.   So I can't talk about that, but I do wanna just quickly this is not a a sponsored shill, but I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that the Bitcoin Beach retreat will be happening again in Wales   very soon.   I think that anyone who hasn't already been there, anyone who's in The UK should strongly suggest it. I know Dragon puts a huge amount of effort into putting these things on. I was thinking about it last night, and I was like, actually,   most of the people that I am closest to, I kind of met there on the first one.  

It was the first   introduction   to, like, real people in the Bitcoin space that   I had, some of those have turned into really good friendships.   And I don't go to these things anymore, just like OPSEC reasons, but I just wanted to draw everyone's attention to it that it it's a fucking amazing   non bullshitty,   non Bitcoin magazine event   put on by a really great guy. It's relaxed.   It's a lot of fun. So   anyone who hasn't already been, we'll put a link in the show notes, and I would strongly suggest you go to that rather than going to some ShillFest conference.  

[00:15:42] Unknown:

Yeah. Definitely. We've donated a passport prime as the one of the prizes for the quiz that they're doing as well, so you might be able to win one there. Very nice. I need to have a word with Dragon actually about that because he always organizes this on a weekend where I'm otherwise engaged.  

[00:15:57] Unknown:

Yeah. He does work very hard to make sure you're not there because you're generally available.  

[00:16:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Please check with me next for next year's event.  

[00:16:08] Unknown:

Well, they they always have some nice prizes. I won the quiz a couple of years ago when I went to it. What I get I got a chief monkey   piece of art, which I've got on my wall here. It's really nice. I got some three d printed   bits and pieces and holders and a beer holder and loads of stuff from coffee.   Got a load of stickers.   What else do I get? I think I've got a T shirt. Oh, I got a shitty little calculator thing. I haven't worked out what to do with it, but I've got one cylinder drawer, sealed if anyone wants one of those. There's always some good prizes.  

[00:16:41] Unknown:

Yeah. Good that I can't make it. I think I saw that they just sold out this weekend of the early, like, lower priced tickets. So, sounds like they're selling out pretty quickly.  

[00:16:51] Unknown:

Well worth going. Go and check it out. We'll put the links. Go and support it. Go down there because otherwise, these proper events will die out. You'll just be left with, like, watching sailor on a stage. Right? That sort of bullshit. Like, go go meet some real people.  

[00:17:05] Unknown:

Outside of that, I haven't really got anything that I can think of, so we're jumping to the news, I guess. Before we do go into the news, since we last recorded, no bullshit Bitcoin looks like they've been on holiday. Yeah. Well deserved, which is fine.   But that does mean that means two things. Number one, I actually have to do a little bit of work. Some work. Yeah.   So get the list together, although   ex Patriotic and Jordan did provide some massive help as well. But, obviously, the links in the show notes to this episode   will not be their usual, beautifully   They're all kind of higgledy piggledy and from all over the Internet. So bear with us. But as of about thirty minutes ago, it looks like no bullshit Bitcoin are back   at HQ and posting again. So normal service will hopefully be resumed for the next show. Oh, interesting.  

If you are listening to this, no bullshit Bitcoin is a big driver for the show. So Yeah. Feel free to show your support to them as well. They do it all for free.  

[00:18:04] Unknown:

Yeah. Massive help. Huge, huge help. When I got that message saying they'd gone offline, I was like, oh, fuck. That's actually   a real loss. Like, if they'd gone, that would be a a proper loss.  

[00:18:14] Unknown:

Agreed. Yeah.   Right. Let's hit the news.   Okay. First off, we have had another Bitaxe block, Max. Nice.   Little funny story with this one. I won't go too deep into it because, obviously, this is not the mining show. I'll leave that to you and John. The address   that   my Bitaxe is mine to, I've kinda, like, memorized the last,   I don't know, five, six, seven, eight digits of the the address.   And when I saw this on Twitter, I thought   that the address in the coinbase   of the mined block   Mhmm. Was my address. It was similar.  

[00:18:51] Unknown:

Yet another rug pull for q. So I sprinted  

[00:18:56] Unknown:

sprinted up to my office to look at the screens of my Bittacks to see if it had that fateful message of block found, and sadly, it did not.  

[00:19:04] Unknown:

Oh,   how nice would that have been? Someone's experiencing it. Yeah. I think,  

[00:19:10] Unknown:

I can't remember how much hash rate the total had. I think it worked out that whoever it was was running   something like six bit access.   So not not loads.   And not a lot of hash rate either. But, yeah, hats off. Enjoy your, earnings.  

[00:19:25] Unknown:

Wow.   Very nice.   Very nice.  

[00:19:30] Unknown:

Indeed. Next article,   FinCEN, our friends over at FinCEN   have issued a Southwest   Border geographic   targeting   order. Basically, FinCEN have lowered   the   threshold   for financial reporting for money service businesses   from $10,000   down to $200.  

[00:19:54] Unknown:

What the fuck?  

[00:19:56] Unknown:

Yeah. So they haven't just checked it a little bit off. They've dropped it down from 10 k to $200.   Now What the fuck? The geographical   part of this. I've never heard of this before, but it's a GTO, a geographic   targeting order.   So the threshold lowering affects   30 ZIP codes across California and Texas near the Southwest border.   So my guess is that they're   targeting   kind of drug cartels or people affiliated with drug cartels,   you know, would naturally find themselves   residing in those types of ZIP codes.  

[00:20:31] Unknown:

Themselves then.   They're targeting themselves.  

[00:20:34] Unknown:

Yes. Yeah. Indeed.   And, of course, this is only temporary, Max, as with all government changes. It's just gonna be temporary and It'll stay in that location as well. It won't spread. That's right. Normal service will be resumed as soon as they catch all of the criminals because, you know, they're really winning the drug war right now.  

[00:20:52] Unknown:

I think so. It's looking good. It's looking good. My bet's on them.  

[00:20:58] Unknown:

It's amazing. If you are a money service business in   Imperial County, California, San Diego, El Paso, Maverick County, Webb County, etcetera,   my condolences. You've just been shafted by the government yet again.  

[00:21:12] Unknown:

You imagine just trying to do not even a weekly shot. $200.   I spent £250   yesterday   going to Tesco   to buy a fridge full of food,   which is what? $350  

[00:21:26] Unknown:

or something like that. Well, it's even worse in California.   In California, two hundred dollars is like a box of eggs.  

[00:21:36] Unknown:

Not even chicken eggs. It's like quails eggs. You get six quails eggs. Yeah. Insect  

[00:21:42] Unknown:

eggs. Yeah.  

[00:21:45] Unknown:

What a fucking state.  

[00:21:47] Unknown:

Right. Next on the list   is more US regulations.   Excellent.   Well, linked to US regulations.   A man has been held in contempt of federal court for refusing to surrender a hundred and 19.65   BTC   that was subject to a seizure order.   And he now has to pay $10,000   for each day   that he doesn't comply.   I'm not sure why this guy was in court in the first place, but basically,   the feds have got access to his laptop,   noticed that he had ledger software on it, and they were able to open up the ledger software, see what he had.   Instead of transferring the BTC to the government, the court found that the gentleman   whose surname is Ray Noso Okay. Has transferred his BTC to other wallets.  

Oh, what a chat. Good lad.  

[00:22:36] Unknown:

What a good lad. I love to say it. Unfortunately,  

[00:22:38] Unknown:

obviously, that is fairly trivial to track on Jane, especially if they've got your starting point. The court rejected Reynoso's   argument that the seizure order violated the fifth amendment.   Mhmm. Yeah. So this guy is fucked, basically. He's fucks. Yeah. Yeah. And the reason that I included this one is just a quick PSA, just to remind people that your bullshit   boating accident   is just not gonna wash with the feds. So maybe come up with another strategy.  

[00:23:06] Unknown:

How long have we said that for? Every single show pretty much. Don't start thinking you're hard, or it's this amendment, or it's that amendment, and you can't because of my constitutional rights, or you can't because   I'm   really hard or no. Don't think that you're gonna play with them. They've got all the guns, all the power. They write all the laws.   Suddenly, though, my over the top   extreme levels of having a separate laptop that's encrypted, that has nothing else on it but Sparrow   that's not with any of my normal stuff, suddenly  

[00:23:39] Unknown:

that doesn't sound so stupid, does it? No. Absolutely not. Yeah. I that was gonna be one of the outcomes or or piece of advice I was gonna give people was that, well, number one, don't use ledger software. Yeah. Definitely not. And number two, like, if this guy had his ledger connected to Sparrow   and that Sparrow file had a a password on it, which is good practice,   then the feds ain't getting in. Now, obviously, that's not a silver bullet because there are some jurisdictions   where   the feds can just compel you to give you the password. I don't know whether that's true of this case.   So even though you had a password on there, if they tell you you know, if you're in a certain jurisdiction and they say, gives you a password, like, I know Australia does this, you know, it wouldn't fix that. But you know what does fix it? Playing Bitcoin. Max, have you just fell off your chair?  



[00:24:22] Unknown:

No. Auto Glass just turned up at the door, and for some reason, my missus   can't hear anything. And,   I have to then go out to say, auto glass was the door. They're knocking at the door even though she was much closer to the door than I am. Because I have a cracked windscreen.  

[00:24:38] Unknown:

So sorry about that. I was listening, by the way. No. No problem. I was just checking that you're okay. It sounded like   you've had a little fall.  

[00:24:47] Unknown:

No. It's fine. Yeah. No. Agree. Yeah. You know, buying no KYC,   obviously,   have everything encrypted.   You can even go one step further. It depends how far you wanna go with it. But   especially if you have that sort of amount   of Bitcoin, and maybe it's linked to something that's maybe shouldn't have been done possibly in the eyes of the law. It could be an idea   to not keep a backup of Sparrow or anything like that. You could just have your 12 words and still how often do you have to use a hundred and 19 Bitcoin. I don't know. You might not need to have all your labels and all your bits and pieces. It might be better actually just to have everything offline and, like, literally untouchable, not even with a password. Yeah. Definitely. So in terms of why he's being compelled to do this, it looks like parts of the case are still sealed, so it's not public as to why he's being compelled to disclose all of this sort of of stuff. And the last kind of little part of this that did make me chuckle a little bit was there's a screenshot of some of the court filings.  

[00:25:49] Unknown:

And there's an image in there where the feds who've been investigating this   have taken a boomer screenshot of what looks to be   some block explorer   showing his address with the balance of a hundred and 25 Bitcoin in it. But instead of doing an actual screenshot, they've done a boomer screenshot where they've taken a photo of the computer screen with their phone, and you can just Brilliant. Blurry   reflection of these two feds with shitty ingrins in the background. Oh. I just thought it was a little bit funny.  

[00:26:19] Unknown:

Absolute   fucking cunt, aren't they? Yeah.   Yeah. Have everything encrypted.   Don't think that a boating accident is going to cut it because it's not. Absolutely.  

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Right. Next on the list.   I actually didn't know about this one until Jordan and,   Expatriotik dropped it into the chat, but there was some drama around   some European   Bitcoiners thinking that   the EU commission was gonna go and essentially steal €10,000,000,000,000   of citizen savings to fund EU defense   Right. Which clearly wouldn't be great. But, however, what is actually happening is that they're gonna be coming up with   enticing investment strategies to get people to   take their funds out of savings   and invest it into, presumably, companies that are gonna fund the EU war effort, presumably, again Mhmm. Against Russia because that seems to be stepping up a bit lately.  

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Yeah. That's excellent.  

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Yeah. They're not sort of stealing from you yet. They're enticing you to take what you have out of savings and and invest it so that they can siphon off those funds   to, fire at Russia presumably.  

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Yeah. I wonder how are they gonna say, look. We think you should invest in like, how how dirty are they gonna get? Are they gonna say things like, we think you should invest in   this company   that we kind of technically own, which is manufacturing   arms because guess what? We're gonna need a lot because we're gonna go to war and put a load of people through a meat grinder.   Like, are they gonna do it that overtly,   or are they gonna make their own shit coin? Like, you never know, like, how stupid this stuff's gonna get. Like, are they gonna make a shit coin, like war coin or something like that?   Like, pump pump war coin. Missile coin.  

World War three coin. Amazing.  

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So remains to be seen the specifics. It just sounds as though they're trying to do it without blatantly just printing   more and more and more. It does feel like people are starting to get a bit wary of that. People are starting to feel the effects of that all over the world. So,   Yeah. Sounds like they're trying to be a bit more covert about it.   Yeah. Interesting. I'd rather they just print personally, but the pirate base in terms of his involvement is unclear to me at the moment because I've seen conflicting   news reports and stuff. So don't at me in the comments. I'm just going off the news article. But the pirate base founder or I've also read financier   or I've also read person who was involved with   Right. So somebody who's involved in the Pirate Bay in some way, shape, or form. Some people think he's a financial supporter. Some people think he's the founder. Right. Has unfortunately died in a plane crash in the Slovenian   mountains.  

Businessman Carl Lundstrom   allegedly supplied the site with servers, bandwidth, and financial support.   At the time of the accident, Lundstrom was travelling from Croatia to Switzerland when his Mooney m 20 aircraft crashed.   He was, I believe, on his own, and I don't think there's any reports of foul play here. Clearly, he was a public figure, so if they wanted to take him out, I'm sure they probably have thought of something cheaper and easier than a plane crash, but you never know. I don't know. Plane crash is pretty easy, I reckon. Not a lot of evidence is left.  

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I'm just looking at a Mooney m 20. It's a beautiful plane, but it's the size of a bee's dick.   So these are the type of ones that literally   I went to school with two separate people who their parents have died in these type of aircraft. Really? They lived in Africa. Yeah. It's fucking dangerous, these little mini planes. I guess it's like the perfect cover, but also it just happens anyway, so who knows?   Beautiful plane, though. That's really nice. I like that. Well, it was.   Yeah. Well, yeah, it was. It was. Same with helicopters.   It's proper rich people shit that, though, isn't it? It's like if you've got a helicopter or, like, your own personal plane, you're proper rich, but you're also  

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a lot more likely to die than just us plebs. So Yeah. Indeed. Final kind of article. It's not really a news article, but I wanted to include it. The Nim BC 1984   Adam Mhmm. Who's been fairly vocal about the the samurai situation since it started to unfold,   has published an article, which again will be linked in the show notes. It's almost like a hypothetical   article as to an analysis on how the defense team could proceed to to defeat the charges leveled against the samurai devs. So he's been quite open and honest here that he's used some AI to kind of support this. So it's kind of more of a a thought process   article than a news article, But it is a very interesting read and will give you a a better understanding of kind of the insanity of the situation and kind of, like, how   things could proceed based on just one person's thought process. But, again, be linked in the show notes. So worth a read if, you know, you've got a spare ten minutes. Quite an interesting  

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one. Nice.  

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Right, mate. We have two weeks worth of boosts because of our Oh, dear. Mismatched   recording schedule. So shall we jump in?   Yeah. Let's do it. Okay. So these first lot of boosts are from the two guys in the woodshed,   the most recent show. And the first one's from John. Twenty one thousand four hundred and twenty sats.   Nosta hopium is becoming just as bad as Bitcoin hopium. Developing nosta reputations   over fostering real world relationships   makes   relationship building unnecessarily   complicated.   A Rube Goldberg   relationship machine. Drink.  

I get the impetus for this one, and I absolutely agree that there is way too much Nosta Hopium just as there is in Bitcoin Hopium. I agree with that. However,   I don't think there needs to be a binary choice of developing,   you know, an online reputation   over one in the real world. Like, you can do both and they should work hand in hand. Mhmm. I think we are kind of prime examples of that. So I think I don't know. I just wanted to push back a little bit to John as much as I love him to say, you know, you don't need to do one or the other, you can do both and you should do both.  

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I actually agree with you   even though I don't like Nosta.  

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The Rube Goldberg   nature of Nosta is its charm I think. It can be a root Goldberg thing and you can have 25 different clients all over the place if you want to, but if you just want a Twitter replacement and you can just download Amethyst and   just speak to your Nosta social network there, Like, the whole point of it is that you can interact with it in whichever way you want. It doesn't need to be a Rube Goldberg machine if you don't want it to. It can just be one thing to serve one purpose.  

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Knowing John, I think what he means by that is when Ben was sort of banging on about, you know, you can do this, and then you can split the payments down. And this person's got that reputation, so that opens a door and, you know, all that kind of Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's talking about the further out stuff that we were talking about with Lightning   in whatever, like, seven years ago or something. I think I have micropayments, and then those micropayments are gonna split, and they're gonna have subsets and all this stuff. And it's like,   yeah. It's all like the what is technically possible   at the outer edge of things, and it can be done, but it kind of isn't done because   we haven't yet caught up with the UX to make it a usable   or, like, enjoyable to use experience yet. %. We're quite a long way out of it. Yeah. So I think, like, John's looking at that and going,   yeah. You could do all that shit or you could just go and shake someone's hand and have a conversation with them, and that's gonna be a much richer experience.  

And he's right. There's, like, a bit of both, isn't there? Like, you do have the reputation   You know, we've built it over mainly over Twitter and the show and stuff like that, but the majority of people don't know me from Adam, and people will message me some quite personal things and put trust in in me. And I'm sure the same with you just because they're like, oh, they've been around. It sounds like they haven't fucked anyone over and, like, so they should be good. And that's where Nostra   is even better than   Twitter because you kind of own the data and all the things that we talked about in that. So he is right, and I think Nostra is overhyped   and a bit gay. And I like to shit on it a bit just to bring some reality back into the room, but   you are also right. So well done. You're both right.  



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Late stage HODL with 15,000   sats. My favorite part of this episode was when they were watching a video and we couldn't see.   Oh, god.   Someone said, oh, look. They drew a dick on it. And then very soon after, Max said, oh, I like this.   The end saying,   we were pervs looking through the keyhole.   And then Jordan, as always, to save the day with the video and the chapter title.  

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The one that made me laugh was, ah, someone's just drawn drawn tits on Batman.   I like it. Eight myth randier with 7,777   sats. I don't know what mongs means, but it sounds about right for this crew.  

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If you wanna know what that means, if you go onto Twitter and search for Craig Wright,   you'll get a a great example.  

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Yeah. What is a mong? It comes from, like, mongoloid, doesn't it, or something like that? Yeah. It's it's it's somebody that's not very bright. It's like a derogatory   way of saying, like Retard. Mentally impaired, mentally challenged.   Yeah. Yeah. Craig Wright.   Very good description.  

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Huxley, six thousand nine hundred and twenty one SATs. Cheers, Mongoloids.  

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There we are.  

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I like the idea of a nostalgia business structure.   Yeah. Me too. Early days. Don't hold your breath. It's probably, like, at least ten years out. It will come. In time, it will come.  

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Shadowy   Superbadger.   I agree with Ben. It feels like samurai have been weirdly memory hold. What the actual fuck?   But like he says, the recent changes can only be good for them.   We still need more limelight, though,   hashtag free samurai.   Yeah. Agreed, mate. Oh, on that, the free samurai stuff Oh, yes.  

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I saw this.   Is it 1,700,000?  

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I think it was, like, 1.2 or 1,300,000.0   sats   have been   donated   to Free Samurai   in the last   week,   and that was thanks to all the ungovernable   misfits   making sure that Dan had to pay   double, wasn't it?   Yeah. Dan Kool publicly stated that any did he match the largest one, or did he match them all combined or something? He matched all of it. He said basically, he likes what we're doing with the donations and all the sats and XML boosts and all that kind of stuff, XML chats. And so he said, right. Whatever is donated this week, I'm gonna match it. Make me bleed.  

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What a fucking legend.  

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I know. I love that guy. And so everyone   from the Ungovernable Misfits boosted, like, whatever it was, 650,000   sats there or thereabouts. We posted on Twitter,   and then he matched that as well. So, yeah, it was, like, 1.2  

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something million sats in a week. Well done, guys. And and thank you, Dan. Hope you're well, mate.  

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Yeah. What a legend.   More to come. More hashtag free samurai stuff from ungoverned misfits that we can talk about probably   next episode, and there's gonna be more again the episode after that. We've got lots of things. We're we're doing what we can. Anonymous with 6,666  

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sats. Great episode.  

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Oh, thank you, mate.   FOMO chronic with 5,000.   No message.  

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Otis Bittmeyer. Two thousand five hundred sats.   Use the coin as a tool to build the world you want. Thanks for the signal, friends.  

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Cosign that. Thank you, mate. Otis Bittmeyer   is the man behind   Otis Bittmeyer's coffee, which is the coffee that John always bangs on about. I didn't put two and two together. Does he ship to the worldwide?   I'll find out. I think they probably do. We were supposed to get all of his coffee and a load of other things on the Ungovernable Misfits site and help with, you know, these more local, like, smaller producers, a bit like Barn Miner.   It does with this jerky. It's one of those long things on the list that we haven't got around to. But one day, if it's not already, you'll be able to order us to UK. Apparently, it's really good. So just thought I'd throw that out there. Nice. I look forward to ordering some.   Bubba with 2,000 sats.  

Holy fuck. Too many   accents to keep track of. Too many English accents to keep track of.   Fuck the flashing art seizure.   Everything sounds so damn polite.   Am I now anonymous on the old fountain because Nostra sucks ass? Yes. You will be. If you don't connect to Nosta, you you won't be on there, mate. So  

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sorry about that. If you keep boosting with bearish notes about Nosta, then we're gonna know it's you, Bubba.  

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Yeah. We'll know it's you.   Fuck the flashing art seizure. A few people have mentioned that. Do you know the one I mean? When you go on and you play the thing, Ungovernable Misfits and that will flash and then it's like screen printing and it's like all this stuff. I really like it, but I like it as well. Speaking of that flashing art and stuff,  

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I I forgot to mention that I recently did a couple of quick updates to the Ungovernable landing page on the Foundation website.   So we now got a lovely little intro on all of the products now. So you can see intros about passport, prime, and Nice. And concierge as well. So we've got it all in one. So just a quick little update there. So let me know what you think, guys. Yeah. Very nice. Anyone who's going to order one of these new Batman mode, dark knight mode,  

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core   passports, you can go and you can use the code Ungovernable, or you can click on the link in the show notes. It helps support us.  

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It lets Foundation know that we are shilling, and it also gets you a discount. So consider it. It does indeed. Back to the boosts. S four s 1,000 sats. Woah. I listened to that at 1.5   speed. I need to listen again to process Ben's insights. Great stuff.  

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Shadrach,   nine hundred and ninety three sats.   Beautiful   with a little heart.  

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Thank you, mate. Chad f, three hundred and thirty three sats.   Love all the talk about payment splits, but unfortunately,   they are still shit on Nosta.   Yeah. I saw him send a note about this. Mhmm. Not quite sure   what's so shit about them because it works fine. Like, when you do the retweets and stuff, it splits the boost. But I think what he's alluding to, correct me if I'm wrong, Chad, is that not all clients support it. So it's kind of a bit fragmented.  

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Could be. He he normally knows his shit with this kind of stuff. Yeah. Absolutely. And Chad also streamed 2,083  

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sats from Castomatic when he was listening. So thank you, sir. Okay. Thank you, mate.  

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Jean Everett   with a 33   sats.   Dude, you gave my girlfriend a seizure with flashing r. Thanks a lot. He could actually mean thanks a lot. They could have had, like, an argument or something. It's like, thanks a lot. She's fucking winding me up, and now at least she's having a seizure. She's been waiting for a bra for ages.  

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That flashing art is not new though, is it? What wonder why we're getting all   the heat for it now?  

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I have no idea. We've had it there for a year maybe, at least, something like that.  

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So I don't know. Into the boost from the previous show, which is just me and you, titled running guns and passports,   Shadrach with twenty one thousand and ninety three sats with no message. Thank you. Oh, big baller.  

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Late stage HODL   with 15,000 sats. Keep up the good work, fellas.  

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Eight.   Seven thousand seven hundred and 70 seven sats. All you need now are some Scots to join the conversation for us Yanks to get even more lost.  

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No. I think Scotts are easier.   Ben is a feral creature.   So many people have written and been like, I just I don't know what's being said here. Don't know what don't know what is happening. He talks pretty quickly as well.   He talks fast. Yeah. The thing is, though, it's much better to have a conversation with him verbally. I don't even bother via text message anymore because I have no idea. Like, I'll be messaging him, and I'm like,  

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I genuinely don't know. You just speak in riddles.  

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I do not actually know what is happening now. I know less now than I did half an hour ago. So I'll call him, and I'm like, I sort of understand. Glad it's not just me. You're a very strange man. No. No. No. It's not just you. He's an extremely strange man. Anonymous   with six thousand six hundred and sixty six sats. You guys are hilarious.   I'm a bit older than either of you, but I can confirm   I am not using a typewriter to verify addresses.   My previous   appreciation   of you mentioning the address verification was because I was unaware of it.   Keep dribbling out info about features that some of us are unaware are available.  

Oh, the address verification, it means on the password   to make sure. Mariah. Okay. Yeah. See? You see?   We aren't just talking drivel. There are people who are listening and going, ah,  

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that's useful, and it might just save them. It might just save them. And I take it for granted because I literally have that device in my hand every single day. So it's just like it's like a part of my body at this stage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fair comment. Maybe we'll, like, pick one and just chew on it into the show somehow.   Noted.   Thank you, mate. Glad we could help as well.  

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Yeah.  

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Shadow We Badger, 5,000 sats, and they also stream 2,262   sats.   Nice badgering q and a. I approve. I think I know what it is. Mum's the word.   Well, if you've got this far into the show, then you already know what it is because we mentioned it double check.  

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Business cat with 4,356   sats streamed,   plepto polymath with 1,043   sats streamed, and Fomochronic   with 1,001   sats streamed.  

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Unpronounceable   c bomb,   1,000 sats.   And they streamed 18,400   sats as well. Oh, what a legend. Jordan didn't mess up. I think he's doing a great job. I think I just had the streaming switch on.   I agree. I think he's doing a great job. I know we poke a lot of fun at him because he's We do. Canadian. But  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We do. He is Canadian, and he is slightly annoying. But, Ungovernable Misfits would not be what it is without him. He is the glue that holds the show together.   No. He really is. Like, he's taken so much pressure off me. He's always there thinking of   different exciting things that we can do and ways to help other people. He is incredible, but he is Canadian. He's both come as well. So Yeah. Swings and roundabouts.   Exactly.   We all eat with 1,000 sats.   I could see Max   snorting Addies with some sketchy hooker   Bluff my fucking ass off. See you next Tuesday.  

I wasn't always so clean-cut and polished. I wasn't always this way. That was a revelation for me to hear, that was. Oh, mate. I could tell you some stories. That was the fucking tip of the iceberg.   Yeah. Good times. Good times.  

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Stack Jarrow, which is a wonderful   handle, by the way. Yeah. Hat off. That is incredible.   Yeah. So simple but so effective.   1,000 sats.   If making your own lightning node, do you use sats from KYC or non KYC stack for the liquidity portion   you deposit,   or at that point, does it not matter?   I think it depends what your use case is for it really, doesn't it?  

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If making your own Lightning node, do you use SAPS from KYC or non KYC stack for liquidity portion you deposit at the point?   We can go into, like, well, it doesn't matter, and there's use cases for both and could be and couldn't be and shouldn't be and wouldn't be and blah blah blah and all that. But I would say that, generally, it's better to do from a non KYC stack because   then there's no tie   going forward, is there? Like Mhmm.   As long as it's done right.   Logically, that would make sense. It's like like, I always used to open with post mix. That was just, like,   best practice.  

You know, you can come back to us and give us more information if you want, like, if this doesn't answer it properly. But my advice would be always use your non KYC stack for everything that you possibly can Mhmm. Where it could be linked to your identity.   And if you do have a KYC stack,   use that on an exchange,   a KYC exchange,   to sell it for fiat.   And, ideally, live in a place where you have no capital gains so you don't get absolutely raped up the asshole by the tax man.   But if you must live in a shithole, which is gonna take, whatever, 25% of it, just fucking sell it there, declare it, get rid of it as quickly as you can.   Ideally, when the price is down and rebuy in in non KYC and just fuck it all off.  



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Yeah. Hard to argue with any of that.   Pies, 420   sats. On my driving to work.   As I listen, all I hear is blah blah blah. We're British, and we are gay. Blah blah blah.   Only two Brits would be arguing over what's more gay running with women. How about shut up and work out, bitch?   Hashtag 40 HPW.  

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Forty hours per week podcast that is, mate. That's it.  

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Yeah. Do do you hit that quota?  

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I do more than that because I record. Me and John were saying that it's like for every two hours you record is forty hours of listening. That's the equivalent. That's the exchange rate.  

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The difference is that you hit your forty hours just listening to yourself over and over again. Ah, it's it's literally torture.  

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But I don't listen I genuinely I think in the last   six months, if I listen to one podcast   in a week, I'd be doing really well. Like, really well. I don't I just don't get time. What about you? Do you listen to a lot?  

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Yeah. I wouldn't, do forty hours. Well, I do normally go for two dog walks a day. So there's, like, I don't know, twenty hours or so. Mhmm. I don't drive far, but if I have a long journey, but, yeah, I'd say I probably get halfway there. I imagine you're one of these  

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disgusting people that can kind of work   and listen to a podcast. You can kinda multitask?   Nope. Oh, you can't? Okay. No. Alright. Good. I always have my lo fi kind of coffee shop music on in the background while I'm working. Me too. Do you know what you need to do is you need to invest in getting one that has the rain in the background.   Oh. Yeah. It's really nice. You can get, like, lo fi coffee shop or lo fi jazz coffee shop with rain in the background.  

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What do you mean investing?  

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Don't you just go on to YouTube and play a video? Well, you don't invest it. You just need to invest the time in finding the one that you like. I see. You don't need to literally invest in it. Although you might wanna get a premium account or something, see that with all the adverts and stuff. Yeah. It's just so much nicer because it just feels relaxing just hearing that rain in the background. Just  

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trust me. It's worth it. I live in The UK, mate, and there's always rain in the background anyway.   That's a good point. That's a good point. John f again with 333   sats and 3,000 sats stream from Podverse with hashtag 40 h p w. Nice. Some movement. Wartime with 333  

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sats with a fire and a clap emoji. At wartime, if you're listening, I have messaged you   on   Telegram   as has John, and we need just a little bit of your time, please. We'd appreciate if you could get back to us. Thank you.  

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Cyborgs,   hundred and twenty three sats with no message. And then a final note from our good friend Superfat Arrow Oh, this guy. Quoting here, yes, the lads are correct. I've never received a grand or bounty for co inventing border wallets.   Thanks to any friends that showed their appreciation by sending Saks. You know who you are, and I appreciate you too. Well, that is a travesty.   It is. Of all the grants that are floating around, border wallets should definitely be one of those supported.  

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Yeah. Definitely. If you're one of these guys that holds the purse strings,   open sets, or one of these sort of things, and you're   throwing a load of fucking money at some project,   just, like, think about it for a second. Just go, you know what MTC and Superfire Arrow built was fucking cool and really useful, and there's a lot that could be built on top of it. Maybe we should just throw them a few sats as a thank you. Just consider it. We've actually got a couple of XMR chats included into the boost here as well, Max. Oh, okay. Let's go for it. I'll do the first one. G.   I think that's how you'd say it. It's just a j and then a billion e's after it With 0.097   XMR.  

4 Bitcoin brief.   Love the show. Thank you for all the effort you put into it. Question for you smart dudes. If my Bitcoin node broadcast a new transaction, will   Chainalysis nodes record which   IP it's coming from? If so, how to protect myself?  

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The answer is they could. However, they would need to have a lot of nodes active in the network   to be able to determine where a transaction   originates from. If they don't have, like, a critical mass in the network to be able to work out how and where messages are coming from and when they're coming from, then they wouldn't be able to pinpoint your node and know that it's you. So there's two things you can do here. Number one, just run a Tor only node so they don't see your IP address. Mhmm. And number two is you can actually broadcast   your transaction   for free from any other external node as well to kind of, Yeah. I guess thwart this type of attack. I know Blockstream, Mempool   have services where you basically build and sign the transaction and then just copy and paste the signed transaction into their website. You can do it over Tor as well if you wanted to or use a VPN and basically just broadcast it from their node. So even if Chainalysis were looking at it, you know, if they were specifically targeting the mempool node, they think that your transaction belonged to whoever's running the mempool node, and, obviously, you'd have a completely clean bill of health.  



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I don't know how I feel about doing that. I think I prefer the idea of using your own node and using it as Tor only. Like, if you want to for, like, downloading, doing the IBD and all that kind of stuff, you do it with, like, a router level VPN as well. Mhmm. I think that's good enough. I I the only time I probably would do broadcast from somewhere else would be, I guess, if I wasn't running my own node. If you're using some other, like, shitty wallet software or something like that, then it would be a better idea to do that. But I don't know why you need to. It feels a bit, like, over the top  

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to me. I get the sentiment, but I don't think it's as detrimental as you think to broadcast from somebody else's node because let's quickly run it through. Like, let's say I've got a transaction, and I for whatever reason, I definitely don't want it to be tied to my own node.   What are the risks of me sending it to the Blockstream node over Tor? Blockstream doesn't see my IP address because I'm connecting to them over Tor.   Well, that's essentially it, isn't it? I'm just giving them a signed transaction. They can't modify it because if they do, it would be an invalid transaction. So there's almost no risk essentially. As long as you're doing it over Tor or you have a VPN, then Mhmm. The risk of Blockstream   in this scenario seeing, oh, Max's IP address is   associated with this specific transaction Mhmm. Is zero. So you could, in theory then,  

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not run your own node,   build a transaction   in Sparrow   or something,   and then broadcast   it from   theirs.   Mhmm. You wouldn't need to actually run one unless you were receiving.  

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The bit where that falls down is whenever you wanna receive any funds, you're trusting somebody else's note to verify.  

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Exactly. If you're, like, a long time holder,   you weren't actively   in, like, most ways. You weren't, like, running a Bitcoin business or anything like that. And just occasionally, you were offloading.   It may be that, actually, you wouldn't need to, especially if you're traveling and one of these digital nomad y type people and you're living off it. Maybe if you're just spending, you could do that. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. K. Last one, Bitcoin Derby, Bitcoin Derby, depends on where in the world you're from. 0.053  

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XMR. Bitcoin Derby are back in April at our regular time and place, Saturday, April   at 3PM.   Ye ole dolphin,   d e one three d l. We'll be discussing how to level up your Bitcoin game and digital sovereignty using the best FOSS tools available.   Hashtag free samurai.  

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Nice.   I like that one. I like that people are actually posting for these meetups.   That's cool. And I like that they've added in hashtag free samurai. So well done. Thank you. I would say Bitcoin   Derby.   I would as well. Definitely. The Derby is American, isn't it? I thought it was like some places in The UK would say Derby. It's Derby.  

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If you're actually from   Derby, it would be Bitcoin Derby, wouldn't it? Derby.   The Americans won't get that one either. They won't. No. They will not. Updates and releases? Let's do it. Zeus version 0.1   has been released   with renewable channels, multiple embedded wallets, and John and Bubba are gonna love this one. Nostra Wallet Connect client support.   Oh.   So with renewable channels, users can renew and extend channel leases from the Zeus LSP,   services and upgrades channel funded with their own on change funds to guarantee a lifetime   and reduce fees.  

So it sounds like   there's another one John and Barbara love. They also receive notifications   via push or noster DMs when channels are close to expiring,   depending on the Zeus Pay lightning notification settings. So basically, this is for those who   use Zeus   with the LSP essentially where you're kind of paying for a service where the LSP will open a channel to the lightweight node on your phone. So it's non custodial, but you don't have most of the lightning headaches.   When you do that, I think you rent the channel for a specific amount of time. And previously,   that was a fixed time. And when it ended, the channel was closed and you didn't presumably incur fees and then have to start again. Whereas now they've got renewable channels where you can kind of keep updating that to keep the channel open, which is pretty cool. Okay. NWC, Nostal wallet client support as well. So you can actually connect to your own node that might be running on a start nine or an Umbrel.  

But rather than using the connection over Tor or locally, you can use Nosta Wallet Connect to use an encrypted communication   that leverages Nosta relays to talk to your own personal load as well. K. Staying on the lightning   side of things, Phoenix have released version   2.5.0   and subsequently   2.5.1.   I was a little bit sad about this one, mate, to be honest.   Why?   With version 2.5.0,   the embedded Tor library   of Phoenix has been ripped out.  

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What?  

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So no longer can you just open Phoenix, turn on or have Tor enabled from the outset, and then it just automatically starts up and privatizes   your connections   when you run the app. Extremely good. They have taken it out now.   And now you've gotta go back to 2019   and use Orbot.   Oh, mate. Which is very disappointing. So in the interest of kind of clarity and fairness, here is their rationale. Phoenix previously embedded a Tor library in order to access the Tor network.   While it was convenient not to have to install anything else like Ober, it also brought significant performance issues, especially for background payments because the connection had to be established on the fly. With the Tor connection managed as a persistent VPN by a dedicated app, the connection is more stable and background payments work much better.  

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Definitely not. Yeah. Orbot is the worst. That's like a way to rationalize it. Maybe it's like they're not allowed to be in certain app stores or something if they have it or something, but that wouldn't make sense because other people are.  

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But regardless, it's extremely gay, and Orbot is shit. And having to use it is an absolute headache. So Yeah. That is sad. Not only for the performance side of things, but also, like, on Android, I'm not sure how it works on iOS. But Orbot, when you run it, it takes the VPN slot of your phone. So if you also run Orbot, you've kind of got to switch and you wanna use Phoenix. Yeah. You gotta switch Orbot off, turn on Orbot, wait for it to load and connect, then open Phoenix. Like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Ugh. Yeah. This one disgusting.  



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That's a shame. Yeah. Indeed. I mean, I regularly used it over tour and didn't really see that many issues, particularly with lost my train of thought. Well, I never had any problems with it running it, which is amazing considering it was lightning because I haven't seem to have problems with everything else. So I don't know.  

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We'll see. We'll see. What is frustrating is that they didn't leave it in as kind of, like, something that you can turn on in the background   and then, like, understand the issues.  

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Yeah. Because that's what you have on Envoy.   Yeah.   You can just choose because sometimes on Envoy, it will say, like, connection issues, maybe potential tool connection issues or something like that. And if someone is happy to wait like I am, you know, you refresh it and thirty seconds later, it's all fine. Or if you don't wanna wait, you have the option. That is a better way of doing it. Yeah. Indeed. So bit of a disappointing one, really. The Phoenix team normally only ship bangers. We'll see. Maybe there's enough of a outcry that they'll add it back in as an option that you can toggle on. Maybe.  

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Didn't see this one coming, mate, but Ronin Dojo version 2.2   o has been released.   Yeah. Love to see it. So now here's the headlines. The backup now includes the index of data. So, yes, you read that right. Whether you're running address indexes,   Electris,   or Fulcrum,   your index of data will be backed up on the backup device. Okay. Which is pretty cool because it means that you then don't have to go through all of the waiting of reindexing Fulcrum if you have to go through a a backup recovery or restoration   step. Mhmm. Very nice. Very, very nice. It's been a while since we've heard from them. It has. Yeah. I didn't know it was still being actively maintained, to be honest. So very happy to see this come out over the weekend.  

So who is this? This is Pavel, was it? Yes. Yep. Okay. The the backup also now includes the Dojo configuration.   What we got here on salvage. The salvage procedure is known by those who had to reinstall the system for whichever technical reason. The SD card will be reflashed by the user with the OS image.   The system would boot with this and perform its first time install procedure.   During this procedure, it would check to see if there was data already present on the storage device to reuse that. In the past, it would only reuse the IBD, initial block download.   But now with these upgrades to the Ronin Dojo codebase,   just like with backups, it also reuses the index of data and the Dojo configuration from the old system.  

Just makes restoration much faster, much more seamless.  

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Nice. Nice.   Good to hear more from the Ronan Dojo team. Damn cool with, his heroic 610,000  

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stats and now Dojo Coder releasing this. I'd like to see that. Yeah. Absolutely. And the the final update here is that they've kind of made a more seamless   upgrade path for those that you know, I'm sure there's a lot of users that still have a one terabyte drive in there, which will very soon be full. Yeah. Naturally, those people are gonna be wanting to upgrade to a two terabyte or larger device. So they've added in a script now to be able to be able to do that in a seamless way. I think we talked about doing something similar with Start nine recently as well, didn't we? So Yeah. Yeah. They've, they've followed suit, which is pretty cool. So Nice. Glad to see that this is still being maintained. Yeah. Definitely. Nice work, guys. Ashigaru   version   one point one point one had been released. Looks like a smaller update. You can now rename and reorder your account names in the wallet address calculator tool. And then a couple of bug fixes where the app would crash on startup when launching in offline mode. Reproducibility   enhancements based on user feedback.  



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Very nice.  

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Nice to see those guys still shipping as well. All girls.   All girls indeed. Yeah. While we're talking about Ashigaru, did you see what Larry LaserMind put together? Basically, he's gone through the code base to give it kind of a a lot more scrutiny than I believe it's ever had before.   Mhmm. So that will be linked in the show notes. Obviously, that's pretty dense in terms of code review, but the the headline is that he gave it a clean bill of health and said that he liked what he found, Gave it a bit of a rubber stamp to say, you know, it looks good to me.   Excellent.  

Nunchuk have released version 1.9.64,   which has some   improved   encrypted group wallet functionality.   We have briefly touched on the group wallet feature before, but since we last spoke about it, myself and Orange Surf have actually tested it out a couple of weeks ago. Okay. We put it into practice basically. So I was running Nunchuk on my Android phone, and I believe he runs iOS and lives in a different country to me. And Mhmm. It took us ten minutes to set up a Taproot multisig wallet   where he held two of the keys and I held one of the keys. Oh.   Yeah. It was a very seamless experience. I was very pleasantly surprised actually.  

They use encrypted comms, which updates very quickly. Actually, I thought it was gonna be fairly janky, but no. Very seamless experience. We set up the wallet in about five minutes. Okay. He sent some funds in, and then we went through the spending flow where basically it just kind of pops up where there's a new transaction. You get notified, say, you know, here are the transaction details. Would you like to authorize it?   I can put in my signature.   And then obviously in this setup, it was he had two and I had one. So then he was free to then give it a secondary signature and then broadcast the transaction.   Very, very similar to a traditional kind of multisig flow as you would expect.  

But Mhmm. Going on two different phones by two different people on two different sides of the world. Very impressed.  

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Very nice. Yeah. I've never used Nunchuck, but you've always spoken pretty positively about it. Orange Surf being the turbo nerd that he is actually did some  

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calculations   afterwards as well to see what the the fee savings were for us doing this multisig via Taproot.   Mhmm. For a one in, one out transaction,   the Taproot   version was 59%   cheaper than a traditional two or three SegWit multisig.   If we use the script pass spend, it would have been 34%   cheaper as well.   Very nice. So, yeah. You saved yourself about half a penny then? Yes. Indeed. Yeah. Well, it was just the test transaction, but, you know, if you extrapolate that out to, like, a five of seven with 10 different UTXOs,  

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then the savings quickly become very worthwhile. No. I was being a cunt. And also the fees are very low at the moment. So Yes. Indeed. When they go up, then it's worthwhile.  

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I'm thinking something like this would be absolutely   ideal for the ungovernable treasury.   Mhmm. I don't know what the setup is, and I don't want to know. And obviously, we're not gonna discuss it on there. But let's presume, right,   your ungovernable has a treasury.   You would kind of coordinate the wallet on your phone.   You give Crown a key.   You give Jordan a key, John a key, and me a key. Let's say there's five of us. We would all just have essentially a hot wallet on our phone, which sounds risky, but, like, it could be a three or five multisig where we're all all over the world. Yeah. You can coordinate spends for specific stuff if you need to restock the store or pay for a VPS or something like that. You benefit from that multisig   infrastructure,   but you can coordinate and chat within the app and then send transactions   in a matter of minutes. It's very cool, and I think it's gonna open up quite a lot of use cases. Pretty cool. Yeah. That is cool. I'll have to have a play.  

Speaking of our pal, Orange Surf, he has released a new interactive block visualization   tool that he's called Grid. Mhmm. So if you wanna try it out, just go to grid.orange.surf.   This grid,   it looks a little bit like the kind of block template that you would see on mempool dot space,   but he has it forming four different functions. The main two I wanna talk about is you can look at the medium fee for the last 90 blocks,   and it's just a kind of quick, simple   color chart where if it was a low fee, the block is green. If it was a medium fee, which currently between five and fifteen starts, it goes orange. And then if it's above that, it goes red. You can just quickly see the fee makeup of the recent blocks very visual way. The other, and in my opinion, more interesting use case is that you can see who's mined a block, which I know you can see on mempool dot space anyway. But what you can do is that you can group   all of the different miners into different groups. So as I'm sure you and John have probably talked about on the mining show, Antpool has lots of friends who are also essentially Antpool.  

The Antpool family. Yeah. The Ample family. You look at mempool.space/mining   and see, oh, Ample's only got 25   of the hash rate.   The reality is they produce   well over 30% of the block templates because they've got loads of shadow pools.   So they actually have more hash rate or more influence on the block template construction of more blocks that makes sense. So OrangeSurf's tool allows you to group known miners into, well, groups. So you can have like amp pool and friends where you could cluster vc.com,   Binance pool, Luxor, and whoever else into one and give them one color. So that when any of those minor block, you get a more true distribution of, like, who's actually constructing the block templates in the last 90 blocks. Pretty cool.  



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Very nice.   I love it when   a turbo nerd calls another turbo nerd a turbo nerd.   It's like you to me are, like, one of the biggest nerds I've ever met in my life. It's just astounding. And then you're like,  

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orange surf's such a turbo nerd. There's levels to this. There's levels to this shit. I would put myself on the first step of turbo nerd, and then the likes of orange surf and coffee are are a few rooms above me.  

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Yes. Do you wanna know the biggest nerd ever   is actually John?   Really?   Yeah. But a different type of nerd. So it's normally with, like, singing and performances and stuff like that. Okay. I've never met someone who his brain just goes to a way to,   like, make some music out of something with whatever you're talking about. He's always there just, like, tapping away and writing little notes and, well, that could be a song. That could be a performance  

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like the Ampull fab. Do you ever listen to his Ampull family one? I did. Yes. Yeah. He's a talented guy, isn't he? Yeah. What a guy. This is a perfect segue, actually, and this wasn't planned. But speaking of turbo nerd stuff, even I'm not high enough up the ladder to understand why the fuck you would wanna do this. But you can now run   Linux,   specifically certain flavors of Linux. I think it's just Ubuntu and Debian and stuff like that at the moment on   your Raffine OS phone. Oh, yeah. On Graphene.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. It works really well. I've been using it for a while.  

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I get that the concept of this is cool, but I've been asking for days on Nosta. Why?   And everybody just keeps going, oh, because it's cool. I'm like, yeah, but, like, give me a a an actual use case   why I'd want to, on my tiny little phone screen, spin up a virtual machine   that's running Debian or Linux of some flavor,   then plug that or cast that to my computer screen and then deal with the lower powered phone in a Linux environment. I'm just like, why?   Nobody's been able to give me a concrete answer yet that isn't just I'm a nerd.   Can you think of anything?  



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No. I think the answer is because it's just made for nerds. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,  

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it's probably a fucking turbo nerd. Yeah. And then in fact, I've had one recent reply that said, some people don't own a computer, almost everyone owns a phone.   Okay.   But   that catchment of people that have a smartphone that run GrapheneOS,   are they likely to not have a computer?  

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No. They're not. Correct. It's an extremely   small percentage of the planet who would run graphene,   and   most of those are proper techie   privacy types,   and almost all of them are gonna be running a laptop or their own servers and all that kind of stuff as well. But I kinda get the point is that   it opens up the door potentially for people who don't have access   to own a computer to do some of the things that they want with Linux.   Maybe that could open the door for more devs to do more stuff because a lot of the world doesn't have access or doesn't have a laptop or a computer or a server. They do just have a phone. So   I guess maybe in theory.  



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Yeah. Possibly. Like, one of the guys I interact with on Noster, he actually doesn't have a username, so I don't know what to call him. But, you know,   showed a photo of Sparrow terminal through Linux on his graphene pixel. And I'm just like,   why?  

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What? Why?  

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What are you gonna do with that? Like, I love Sparrow. I love Graphene.  

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He's gonna take a photo.  

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But, like, why?   Yeah. And then he did another one with, you know, the, like, ASCII art, the the Ronin thing, like, the the old school the old school Ronin UI, basically.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, a picture of that as well. And I'm just like, nope.   Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Yeah. Well, you know Maybe I'm being naive. I'm happy to be proven wrong if somebody's able to give me a valid use case as to why the fuck I would wanna do this, but I'm I'm yet to see it.  

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We'll see. We'll see. Someone will prove us wrong. Indeed.  

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Moving on. Simplex chat version 6.3   has been released.   They now got   spam prevention in public chats,   group improvements. You can now mention other members, and it's also got improved performance,   improved chat navigation,   new organization of chats into lists,   the improvements to privacy and security,   including chat retention periods and private media file names.   Nice.   Expatriotics   shoved this one under my nose last night. So I'm gonna be open and honest and say that I don't fully understand how this works, but NimVPN   has been released. It is now available. It claims to be one of the most private VPNs on the planet and is also has a or is built in such a way that they can't log. However, when I was going through the how it works thing very briefly last night, I saw mention   of basically people can run nodes in the network. It seems to operate a little bit similar to the way in which Obscura.  

Yeah. Or Tor. They they seem to have two modes. There's one which is a traditional VPN, which is kinda like one hop, or they have like a more private mode where there's multi hops where Nim themselves don't run any of those any of those servers where you hop through, which is why they're saying that they can't log it because they're not part of that hop, which I get. But Mhmm. They clearly have business relationships with people who are running those hops or those servers that your traffic is being hopped through.   And in their own blog, it says that they have those people sign no logging agreements.  

So it's not that those people can't log. It's that they sign an agreement to say that they won't log. Now,   yes, there is a separation that those people are not NIM, allegedly. But it's not that you can't be logged. It's that we promise well, NIM, the company, can't do it because they get somebody else to run the servers, but those people could, in theory, log your traffic.   Multiple hops means that if one of those servers is logging, they're still not gonna gain much, but there's nothing to prevent them doing that. But the nature of the multiple hops just like Tor means that one malicious node in that kind of path can't really do a great deal. So I'm sure this is still a marked improvement, but it's new and I'm kind of a little bit wary of it based on some of the stuff that I've read. Again Okay. I had a quick ten minute read over their docs last night. So if if anybody's closer to this than me and I've got any of that wrong, please do comment and tell me I'm an idiot. Yeah. Please do. LN SIM has now expanded to cover all of Europe. So lnvpn.net   seems to be   similar to silent.link.  

What they now offer an eSIM service that covers all of Europe where you can buy different plans with different data allowances for different amounts,   all with no KYC, no email, no account on all with So   you can kind of, So you can kind of, Okay. Mix and match and get it to how you see fit. So That's pretty nice. Yeah. Yeah. Nice, nice one to have on the roster to be able to use. That's lnvpn.net   if you wanna check that out. Very nice.   The last one on the list that I wanted to showcase people or signpost people to is a post from Darthcoin,   a resident Lightning privacy guru. He's done a post on Stacker News, which again will be linked in the show notes that covers   underrated privacy tools on the Lightning Network. Won't go through the morgue because it's quite an extensive post, but he covers off wrapped invoices,   ln proxy, which I know we've talked about on the show before, zero conf channels, just in time channels, trusted channels, Zap locker,   Lightning Box, and Dunda LSP channels as well.  

So if you are a turbo nerd and you wanna be private on the Lightning Network like me, well worth a read. Yeah. It's a good post.   Very nice. No questions this time, which is disappointing to see people, although we did have some We did have some in the boost. In the boosts in fairness. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That was fun. And then nice to be back on the normal schedule. Thanks to everybody that streamed, boosted, and asked questions.   More of that, please. We appreciate you all.  

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Yeah. Definitely. Thanks for all the support, everyone, and we will catch you on the next one.