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 ACTION NEWS!!! Is your source for news on the #Bitcoin mining scene! Statistics, #Bitcoinmining news, energy market alpha, comedy relief and as always, witty banter between Jon and Max.



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Intro Music: Flogging Molly - Salty Dog



St. Patrick’s Day may have been weeks ago, but we don’t care, it’s never too late or too early to celebrate…or not celebrate.



We begin this episode as we do all shows, by communicating with all of you via Podcasting 2.0 BOOSTS. Be sure to Boost on the podcasting 2.0 app of your choice. At Ungovernable Misfits we offer a feature rich podcasting 2.0 experience.



Witty banter consists of a special boost read from Bon (Maxine Cyrine – Where is my Mind Piano Cover) Max and Jon strive to be fair and balance, but ever more so, obnoxious and funny. We stoke the budding basketball rivalry between Chet and Bassload as well as cover our history with Ungovernable Misfits fanboy, Mos Def.



Lincoin Mining brings you Statistics like: global hashrate, hash price, hash value, tx fees, and more



Max shares his brief experience as an international playboy, according to him, he was quite pretty.



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Jon reviews an article by Richard Greaser of the Bitcoin Bugle
Statist Bitcoiner Manifesto Yeah, we too are Sick of this Shit.



Altair gives us a brief history of Bitdeer and we review the new Bitdeer Sealminer



How to respond to an Energy FUDster



Bitcoin Bassload Update – What’s the Big Hype About AI?
Be sure to visit UngovernableMisfits.com for more writings and to catch up on past articles.



A cautionary tale from the Pleb Miner Mafia



See you next time! F@%CKERS!!!

(00:00:00) 🍀 N'er Too Late Nor Too Early for St. Patty's 🍀

(00:01:43) Teasing the Topics

(00:03:33) Mr. Anderson Makes History 🎉

(00:04:49) Where Is My Bon 🧠?

(00:07:12) Read BOOSTS, Da Ba Dee Da Ba Di

(00:08:57) Fair, Balanced, Obnoxious and Funny

(00:11:50) Bassketball 🏀: Chet vs. Bassload

(00:16:12) Mos Definitely a Bitcoiner

(00:21:06) Statistics By Lincoin Mining

(00:25:04) No Smoke, Just Stats

(00:31:00) Epoch ⏳ vs. Ewok 🐻?

(00:36:08) Boty Sleeps with Both Eyes Open

(00:37:58) Build 🛠 with Bifrost

(00:41:14) Not Enough Time!

(00:42:56) STOP DROP AND BOOST ⚡️

(00:44:27) Sugar Baby 🕺 for a Day

(00:47:52) ACTION NEWS!!!

(00:48:39) The Statist Bitcoiners Manifesto

(00:52:39) Sick of Dis

(00:55:03) Fly Like an Altair 🦅 (PROMO: UNGOVERNABLE)

(00:59:03) Nothing Runs Like a Bitdeer

(01:03:07) Another Doofus Energy FUD Tweet...

(01:05:37) "I Can't Tell this Story"

(01:11:08) The Big Hype About AI

(01:17:25) I Like My Load Pancake Shaped

(01:21:05) FFC Gear Available Through OTC Desk

(01:23:18) ⚠️ A Cautionary Tale From the Mafia ⚠️

(01:33:30) Lake Satoshi Bitcoin Beach Retreat

(01:34:33) See You Next Time Fuckerrrs 👋

[00:00:11] Unknown:

Happy St. Patrick's Day Ungovernable Misfits. This is Ungovernable Misfits action news episode 3.   Today is Saint Patrick's Day here in the   western world,   in western Pennsylvania. You have a bunch of people in downtown Pittsburgh right now probably getting pretty drunk, or maybe it was last night. I don't even know. I don't do that anymore. I'm not, 23 years old.   Do you guys celebrate any kind of Saint Patrick's  

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events in the UK, or you just shit on the Irish? It depends what you mean by you guys. If you mean me,   no. I don't celebrate anything. I'm a miserable fuck, as you know. But people do celebrate it, the Irish pubs and everything else. I'm sure there'll be many people getting   pissed out of their heads today and enjoying it. We're celebrating this or mentioning this on this recording.   This show won't go out for   quite some time. So we haven't completely lost our marbles for anyone listening.  

[00:01:10] Unknown:

I promise her she was recorded on Saint Patrick's Day. It just isn't going out today. We got stuff to do. Well, by the time if you've partied hard enough and did Saint Patrick's Day right, then you were just now recovering.  

[00:01:22] Unknown:

Oh, you'd have to party very hard. How many days is it? Always say 17. It'll probably be 2 weeks. Yeah. 2 weeks. You have to party very hard. But, if that issue and you're waking up today, well done. You did it right. Or you're just past 40,  

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and any bit of alcohol gives you a hangover. Yes. Today on the show on Ungovernable Misfits  action   news, we're just gonna get right into boosts and whatnot because you have somewhere to go tomorrow. Yes. I just wanna give everybody a teaser. I've noticed that a lot of shows give teasers   as to what's going to happen later on in the show Okay. To keep you tuned in through commercials, but we don't really have commercials. Mhmm. Okay. But I thought a teaser would be kinda cute. We, of course, will have fountain boosts as usual.   A number of statistics to go through   as well as talk a little bit about   why Lincoin   specifically   seems to be targeted   by the   FPPS haters.  

I've just found that very odd lately.  

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FPPS   disrespectooors.  

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FPPS   disrespectooors,   my friend.   Yeah. Body's gonna come about   and jibber jabber with us for a bit. We'll stop, drop, and boost. On Ungovernable Misfits action news, the actual action news part. We're gonna have a Bitcoin bugle   manifesto.   Mhmm.   Yeah. That's gonna spark some interest.   Altair is gonna give his take on BitDeer   and a little bit of history in BitDeer and the new miner that they have coming out. We had some energy FUD on Twitter, and, the energy FUDster really got a lot of action from all the Bitcoiners. They always, do their cyber hornet thing and and come on and get everybody excited and resist the FUD. But we're gonna get a little bit deeper into energy with, of course, Bitcoin Bassload, how AI competes against large miners, and And? We had a little bit of drama inside   the,   Plebminer   chat. Yes. There was some scamming going on. So we wanna give context to that, the parties that were involved or the victims,   and,   do a little bit of post mortem in there and find out what happened and how we can avoid it in the future.  



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Sounds good to me, mate. Alright.  

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How about some fountain boosts?  

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Oh, how about I fuck up the order of the show quickly? Yeah. Yeah. Do it. I like it. Put a lot of.   I know you put so much effort into this, but before I forget, I just wanna say a big thank you to b c   1984   Adam. BC 1984 Adam, Adam Anderson,   for sending a boost to my paynym   and then reaching out to me to say that he loves the show and what we're doing,   and thank you. So he said it was fine for me to share that. He's not a booster, technically, but it was a very generous boost to my pain in him. So thank you for the support. And Adam also sent some messages that there were a couple things pointed incorrectly  

[00:04:15] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Here and there, like your old,   Twitter profile pointed to bit by bit pod as opposed to   ugmf.   Ah.   Wow. I didn't know he'd point that out. Yeah. Yeah. He was the one. Sorry. I didn't give him credit when I text you and told you that. Yeah. I was like, oh, wow. You're on the ball, mate. And you're like,  

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yeah.  

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I didn't take credit for that. I swear to God. You sneaky weasel. Sorry, Adam. And all credit goes to you. You're great. You really comb through everything and   lousy, blasey, blah.   Yes. Thank you. And, Yeah. On to the boost. We've got another great supporter of the show, our friend Bon.   I gave Bon his own boost music for this because   he has been a late booster the past couple episodes, and I even had to remind him,   so his previous boosts boosts   didn't get on to the show. Okay. So I've put them front loaded them special here right into the show.   Has   been part of PMM for a long a long time. Like, when we wanted people to do podcasting 2.0 stuff and boost the show Mhmm. When we did Pleb miner month,   and I asked Bon because he made a lot of clips, and he was very active in podcasting 2.0 from the beginning.  

Can you answer questions or help people make clips and and   stuff like that? And he was like, yeah, sure. Anybody has any any questions about making clips, let me know. So that's Bon. Bon's a very good friend, and these are some some old boosts from Bon.   He said, I listened to this so long ago, I didn't remember what I was going to say now. Something about remembering Max loves y'all and John knows my nineties band lyrics. So I put down my hockey stick   Canadians.   To say, thanks, y'all, for another fun episode. And This monkey's   gone to heaven.  

No.   That's the last pixies. After this next one, there are no more pixies singing.   Okay. This is probably the last one. I thought I was being pretty clever at first and that no one would get a semi obscure eighties, nineties band song lyrics, but you did. Here comes your man, do do do do do   do. Here comes your man.   Cool to see this expand out to 2 shows.   The official name rebrand,   the new clothing, etc. I'm still rocking my 2 hoodies with the tags on the hoods, but the new ones look real nice.  

[00:06:43] Unknown:

Stay ungovernable, mofos. What a legend. Yeah. I don't think we could do the show without Bond, could we? Nope. Nope. No. If if if he got up and left Bitcoin, we'd just quit. I think if it wasn't for him being Canadian, I'd leave my missus and go searching for him.   That's how much I love him. That's the only thing holding me back. So if you change nationality at any time, just, just let me know.  

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What a weird thing to say. I know. It's so creepy.  

[00:07:08] Unknown:

That's you. Yeah. That's me. Thanks, Bon. We appreciate you.   Oh, it's me, isn't it now? Because I'm blue. You're blue. Yeah. Appadie, appadie.   Do you like that?  

[00:07:19] Unknown:

I did like it. It was Yeah. It was seamless. Yeah. Late stage HODL.  

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55,000   555   sats. He's our biggest booster, and he says,   keep up the good work, y'all.   Appreciate the shout out. And if you need a topic on the next episode,   I'm curious about podcast app suggestions.   Google Podcasts is not going to exist   soon. Fountain is now how I boost, but I struggle with the UI.   Breeze is clean, but crashed 3 or 4 times during my last use. I'm trying Podverse   and Podcast Guru next.   Podcast addict is another I may try.   Any other ideas? Looking for something with a simple to use queue like Google had   I think you've covered most of them there, mate. I'm not sure which other ones I've done. And,  

[00:08:14] Unknown:

 LinkinParkRulz was kind enough to respond there. Okay. I didn't put that part, but he advised. And and I'm pretty sure LinkinParkRulz is just saying, hey, fountain    podcast guru,   podverse,   really, lately, fountain has been the best one for me. Okay. I have found and I'll give everybody a little bit of a warning. I think because we're adding so much content there,   that fountain is just taking a few more seconds to load up. So just be patient and maybe have a good Internet connection. Because of the chapters? Yeah. All the GIFs and chapters. Yeah. Mhmm. Okay. Alright. That's my guess. I mean, Jordan can verify that. But Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I still can't use mine, but,  

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no shock there. When it does work, it is clean. Otherwise, try the others.  

[00:08:58] Unknown:

This was not a boost. No. This was not a boost. I don't understand. Go ahead and read it anyway. Okay. User  

[00:09:05] Unknown:

73241437.   Great show, except for the ocean fudd. Laughing smiley face.   It sounds like there is a misunderstanding   about how   Tides'   PPLNS   payout system works or bad luck during the time of the comparison.   If you look at the blocks,   Ocean Mines, they are getting basically the same fees revenue as blocks   near them in the time chain. My guess is that you're failing to mention slash realize that if you turn off your machines   at Ocean, you will continue to get PQIs,   whatever that is, for like 8 blocks. That is likely the missing 200,000   sats.  

Okay.   I will wait, John.  

[00:09:56] Unknown:

Yeah. I I thought, well, why didn't this this guy did it as a reply to somebody else? And I thought, why not boost it? You know? We have provided a lot of coverage and context  

[00:10:06] Unknown:

on Ocean. We we'll read this sort of stuff just this once without a boost because we want to be impartial.   I think it's fair that we read this sort of stuff.   Maybe you fucked up. It's rare that you fuck up. You have lots of flaws, but with this kind of stuff, you're normally on the ball. So I would guess that this bloke is wrong, and you are right. That would be my No. No. You're wrong. I did not account for for the additional 8 blocks,  

[00:10:34] Unknown:

to add a little bit of a mea culpa. So what I will do to make up for it, to provide additional   context,   is when the payout finally comes on this machine that's been on since January 8th, I think,   I will do another post mortem on that and break it all down. But I would like to say, I think that we have covered Ocean   exhaustively.   Mhmm. We didn't fanboy it. We were probably a little more harsh just because the way they came after samurai, and you don't come after   our people like that. No. You don't. Kanti. It was Kanti. Maybe we were a little harsh because of the way their devotees kind of come after Lin coin Mhmm. And we don't like that either. Yeah. So in in the, you know, in the spirit of impartiality   and fairness, I put that on there even though it wasn't boosted. Okay. And I will reevaluate   at a later time. That's good of you, John. Well You're a good man despite what they say. Yeah. I don't know. We put a lot of work in this show, and I don't wanna seem like ling coin cucks, and I don't wanna seem like ocean haters. Mhmm. Just wanna be fair and impartial, but also obnoxious and funny at the same time. Yeah. And some people don't get that part. Mhmm. It's a tough balance. Mhmm.  

We on the side of obnoxious.  

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Okay. Well, we'll, we'll see. We'll see. Next one is from user 734  

[00:11:54] Unknown:

blah blah blah. He says, yeah, yeah, the tides   PPLNS   is very unintuitive,   but I'm a big fan, and that's cool. So I did go through all of the tide's documentation,   all their q and a and facts. It's very, very long. It's just gonna take more work for me to break that down and then convey it to somebody else. Like, I get it in my head, but trying to do it in an audio way on a show is is a little more difficult. Go ahead. Hey. Try for yourself. Go ahead on Ocean and go into their FAQs and find and read all about the tide's payout. Sit down with a nice cup of coffee. Have a pot there on the back burner because it's gonna take you a while to figure out, and maybe you might need to,   call up Luke and ask him some questions.  

Next one's from apemithrandir,   g f y. Thank you, sir. Thanks, mate. Next one is from Saps Misfit.   These keep getting better. Can confirm. War time psychopath,   fire and heart. Next one is from Lake Satoshi.   Chet sucks at basketball,   and everyone knows it.   Oh. More shots fired. Just checking on that. I don't think he does. No. I'd imagine he's quite confident about his skills. Mhmm. I reckon he shit talks more. You know who else is confident? Tell me.   Baseload.   Baseload versus  

[00:13:10] Unknown:

Chet, 1 on 1. Oh. We should put a bet on it. Okay. I got baseload.   Baseload to win? Baseload to win. Yeah. Okay. But when you say 1 on 1, what's that like? It's just your because I'm not really on 1, half court. Yeah. You know, I'm not American. So this is all Let's see.  

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Make it, take it. Let's go ahead and lay it down. Maybe we'll get Lake Satoshi to figure out all the rules, and he can be the ref. Okay.  

[00:13:35] Unknown:

Okay.   Alright. I will bet on Chet. Mhmm. And   I will bet you   221   sat  

[00:13:47] Unknown:

that Chev wins. Okay. Very well. I match that bet with a virtual handshake   of  

[00:13:54] Unknown:

221 sets. Okay. That base load will will win. Yeah. I mean, I know that he played college basketball and stuff. My hope is, that Chet will just, like, physically assault him or something along those lines. Chet Chet was in, like, the,  

[00:14:08] Unknown:

Michigan State   championship game. I I think they won it all. Oh, okay. So they can both bile. Yeah.  

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Alright. 221   sat on Chet.  

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Stamped it.  

[00:14:21] Unknown:

Done. You're still reading boosts, aren't you? No. No? You finished your boost. Mhmm. Next one. Next one, the Bon.   Yes.   Sorry, mate.   Bon. John, you have the greatest,   gayest,   gay voice I've ever heard. I'm so glad I don't see and hear statist cuck blue checks like penis fucking daughter anymore.   Don't know what else to say in the boost beside. Look forward to the next one, and I think I actually got this one in in a timely fashion.  

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Yes. Yes. You did, Bond. Very good.  

[00:14:56] Unknown:

Chet, Hashluts.   Let's fucking go. I just want to be in the mind, bro.   Fuck pools and swan.   Lol. Barn Jerky needs to do a little hotter, and mine needs to be more   mine needs some more love,   lmfa0.   Numbers don't lie. I've heard this from a few people comparing SATs,   that mine with ocean. I don't need to test. Oh, I don't need to test it to know that conclusion.   Fuck that. The name of the game   is and always will be to get as many sats as you possibly can. There is no one size fits all in mining, Max.   Who says rails for breakfast? Let's fucking go. I'll whoop   ba oh, I'll whoop bass.  

A bait. Fuck it now. I got thrown off by the double o. Isn't whoop like menna be No. Singulo.  

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That's a whole whole can of whoop ass. It's spelled just like that.  

[00:15:55] Unknown:

A whoop base   in b ball, lmfa0.   Okay. I hope you do, mate. I've got fucking big money on this, so don't mess around.  

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Chet, I only play y'all's podcast, LOL. Good. Good. Yeah. Efficient. We like to hear that. There's no point in wasting time with anything else. There is no second best. I won't call this person out But you will. But I took a picture of but I would no. Not not personally.   I took a picture of my little stream deck thing where I have all the the pictures, all the stuff that we play. And I was like, you know, hey, let's go about to record, guys. And somebody saw that statistics.   It's kind of like most deafs picture from that album. And this guy is like, oh, statistics. Yeah. That that album most deaf album is really great. And I said, which whose version do you think is better? And he's like, I I don't know. Am I am I missing something?   You know, I didn't know that was a cover. Like,   no.  



[00:16:49] Unknown:

We've only been playing it for, you know, since, December of 22  

[00:16:55] Unknown:

as our statistics intro. I said, I guess you don't listen to the show. And he's like, oh, sorry, man. I don't I don't listen to a lot of podcasts. Caught him out. We all know that Mos Def is a massive  

[00:17:05] Unknown:

Bitcoin lover.   He mines.   He uses Lincoin, apparently. He's a massive lover of the show. That's the part you're missing there. Well, I mean, that's a given, but he also is into Bitcoin. A lot of people who listen to the show are not into Bitcoin. They just listen for our incredible banter   and good looks.  

[00:17:21] Unknown:

Somebody who does listen and has their own podcast, the Rock Paper Bitcoin podcast, is, Fundamentals.   Last, episode they had, he mentioned the mesh jedel, and he he gave the mesh jedel a little nice shout out. But here he has a boost. He says, such a good show. You guys have something very special here. I love what you're building here. Oh, how sweet. Thank you, mate. Thanks, fundamentals.   Soulex, shout out to mister Ali Terre to ship to the EU   and other places as well.   Hammer,   globe, globe, globe. You know, I don't know this this symbol. Can you see the show notes there? The like, you put your Yeah. Like, a pinch, pinch,  

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poke,  

[00:18:00] Unknown:

heart, fire. There you go. You're the best of these. I'll leave them all just to you. Okay. Next one is SolEx. Matt Dinemen   level of audiobook scene.   Fire, fire, rings of fire. Now I want the whole audiobook like this. Where's Geissar Fund?   Looking eyes, looking eyes, looking eyes.   Geissar,   Nobody from nowhere. You bastards. I almost laughed my ass out.   Oh. Or off. I don't know. Laughed it right out. I love you. Thanks for for everything. Sending handful of sats, which someday may be worth a lot, while fucking dollar will be worth fuck all. Use them wisely. Okay. We will, Nobody from Nowhere. Thank you, mate.  

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Bubba,   fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.   Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Really happy cowboy. Really happy cowboy. Really happy cowboy. Really happy cowboy.   Probably because he got fucked so much. By a cowboy. There we go. The cowboy's the one doing the fucking because he's smiling. I imagine you're not. Do you know what I mean? I don't think Bubba's smiling. It depends on his orientation, sir. I don't think Bubba swings that way. No. But the cat the cowboy no. Bubba don't fucking swing. That. No. But the cowboy does. He's old man. Yeah. Well, Bubba, I hope you recover, and, we love you very much despite the rape. So  

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thanks for the message. I think Bubba is enjoying his life in the desert with his desert dune buggy, and Yeah. I think he likes it there. He's very manly. Very manly man. Hey. Chinga dee ching.   That's for Pies.   That's what we get? That's what we get. This is for for when we read Pies. Okay. We're gonna do this. Hey. Chingity ching.  

[00:19:44] Unknown:

It's Pies the donkey.  

[00:19:47] Unknown:

Jingity ching. Hey, ah. Hey, ah.   Don't   be fucking government cucks.   Fucking bloody helmet.   Sounds like an Indian arguing. Fucking bloody helmet.   He just trying to fit in. Bloody fucking bastard. Bloody shit fuck. Peace and love, y'all.   Pies.   Salute. Salute. Salute. Drink. Drink. Drink. Beers. Mushroom. Mushroom. Mushroom.   Strong. Strong. Strong.   Rocket. Rocket. Rocket. Pies again. I felt the same as you about Swan.   Something's   a bit  

[00:20:22] Unknown:

off about them. Dot, dot, dot. Fuck fucking cuck cuck swan influencers, dude. Fucking shit swan. Something's off about her fucking custodial cucks, dude. Swanfluencers,   dude.  

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MCOT,   cheers.   Biz.   These laughs.  

[00:20:38] Unknown:

In the morning, great crypto talk. Yeah. Okay. Thanks to everybody for boosting   on the many podcasting   2.0 apps. I hope at no point we said fountain boosts during this. But if we did, hopefully, that last mention was the last time it happens, and we just say podcasting 2.0   boosts. Yes. Sir Chad   has been nice enough to give a lot of input since we we started really, really pushing hard podcasting 2.0, and that's one of the things that he'd mentioned. Like, why fountain boosts?   Well, I don't know, because we this is what we've been saying forever, and we'll stop doing it. I promise. We promise.   And now for some statistics.  

Statistics.  

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I'm a tell you the basics for hashing with basics   Bitcoin mining statistics.   Statistics.   Statistics.   I'm a tell you the basics for hashing with ASICs.   Bitcoin mining statistics.   Statistics. Statistics.  

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Statistics.   We would like to thank   Mos Def for covering our statistics   song. He came to us a long time ago and said, hey. I I love the way that you go have this you guys do statistics. Your song is banging. May I cover that? And we said yes. It's true. Immediately. Yeah. We're good like that, aren't we? We are. I mean, it well, I didn't even think about it. Rubber stamp. Yep. Most def. You're alright. You can cover our song. Done.  

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Most definitely.  

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Statistics is brought to you by the Lincoin   Mining platform.   The halfinning is near, but fret not, dear pleb, Lincoin Mining got your back. In the very competitive landscape of Bitcoin mining pools, Lincoin stands out in the way they approach their role as a mining services and mining software company, and that's with transparency   and respect.   LinCoin manages hash rate contributions,   distributes rewards, and mitigates risk through strategic   strategic partnerships   with primary pools, much like other FPPS pools do. So why mine with Lincoin?   They offer a robust suite of customizable tools, an intuitive user interface, and modular services tailored to meet the needs of miners of all sizes and capacities.  

Modular services, you say?   Did you say that, Max?  

[00:23:27] Unknown:

No.  

[00:23:29] Unknown:

Well, you should have. That's correct. Lincoin provides ASIC management and automation,   inventory management,   and energy trading platform,   mining analytics,   demand response participation. Defined   team's roles to include the most handsome, reliable, and hardworking member of your team, our dear friend and co host, body McBotface.  

[00:23:51] Unknown:

Is that false advertising?  

[00:23:53] Unknown:

What is false advertising? That he's handsome and hardworking?  

[00:23:57] Unknown:

I guess it's subjective, but I don't know. I wouldn't call him handsome. You know, I think his wife maybe. His his robot wife thinks so. Oh, his wife's so fucking hot. Mhmm. Mhmm. You don't think she she's a good judge of looks? No. Looking at her? No. I think she's gone all on character. We love him. He's a great guy. But, I don't know, Rugged, not handsome.  

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I wanna say something about Bodhi's wife. That ass looks like it's 2 garbage cans strapped to the back of her. You know what I mean? Yeah. She's got a dumper.   And now, for the part that money can't buy, or should we say sats can't buy? Personal   service and relationship. That's the real meat and potatoes here. You know, po tay to, oil em mash em stick em in a stew. It's what turns a pot of salty water into a delicious stew, the kind of stew that's so good it warms your soul.   We joke here on Ungovertible Misfits, but at Lincoin Mining, they take your mining   success   very seriously and want to see their mining partners   succeed,   not only in the short term, but through the Hal Finning   and beyond.  

You don't get ad reads like that on other podcasts. You don't get them  

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anywhere. One of a kind.  

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Global Hash Rate Global Hash Rate on a 30 day moving average is 586   exahash.   7 day is 596   with a high point, one day high point on March 10th 6 31.   The one day highs for the past month have been as much as 710 exahash   on March 6th and as low as 490   on February 17th.   Love those spreads.   You always ask, why is that? I don't know. But the spread's cool. Cool to look at. Your favorite, favorite stat. The spread.   Yeah. Mhmm. Spread them. I like them spread.   Lincoin Mining's hash rate has risen again and is now at 1.794.   If you're an FPPS payout   and aren't pointing hash to Linqcoin, get at it. Let's get over to Exahash by the Hal Finning. Other mining pools of notes, hash rate, foundry is 179,   antpool is 135.  

The number 3,   FIA BTC, is 77.   Other ones that round out, SBI crypto, 12.88.   Ocean is at 1.17   exahash,   but was as low as 351   petahash on March 5th. Found that weird. Why? I don't know. Just weird. So it went from  

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1.17   to 350,   what, like, over the course of a day and then bounced up again? Or  

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Yeah. Yeah. Like, March 5th, it it was   it it dipped for a period of time for some reason.   But right now right now, it's at 1.17.  

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I'd imagine,   just speculating here, someone pulled a significant amount of hash, and then they had to fill it just so they didn't look bad. Don't really be my guess. Pulled it pulled it and put it back on. That's true. Yeah. Could be that. Very very pleby. You know, it's the pleb pool. Right? Mhmm. But yet, they can drop that much ash rate because of that one pleb. Yeah. Well, to be fair Fair fair and balanced. Fair and balanced. Yeah. Here you go. Fair and balanced. Yeah. To be fair, it doesn't matter how much hash you have. It's your pleby nature that matters. Your scrappy nature. Your scrappy, pleby nature. So let's not let's not sigh his shame on the show. Let's not presume  

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that that who pulled their hash rate off was a pleb or not. We don't know. Mhmm. Hash value and hash price.   Before I read these, we've got a friend, a a listener and friend, a very, very good friend of the show and very good friend of Uncoverable Misfits in general, is starting to get into mining, probably,   in a in a hosting way. And they were asking me a few questions, and then they end up doing, like, a consultation with Barn Miner on the phone because he's such a pleasure to talk to on the phone. Yeah. Dude, don't fucking mine, dude. You fucking lose your fucking money, dude.  

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Better off fucking buying Bitcoin. These fucking shit mains are always fucking broken, dude. Fuck this shit. Shit mains?  

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You'd have to do a few rails when you get off that call just to bring you back up again.  

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He's actually very fucking suicidal.  

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We've been doing some stuff lately. He and a and a few other of the crew that we've been talking on the phone lately. And he's been the most positive one.   He's not the most positive thing. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Like, dude, I can't be the most negative one.   Honestly. Isn't that because his wife bitch slapped him the other day? Oh, man. You you you or I, some one of us got him in trouble. Yeah. Hopefully, me. She she ball tapped him.   Oh, did she? I thought she slapped him. I don't know. Who knows what the truth is? She probably just, like, gave him an eye roll. Yeah. Okay.   Anyway, this guy,   does this consultation with Barn Miner.  

I think he's formulating a way to to host here in the United States and and hopefully with, you know, one of the small small,   hosting services people that we know. And he's asking about profitability   or stacking and electricity. And I was like, dude, you know, we've done episodes on cost to mine. You can refer to all that stuff. We talk about statistics   every single episode. And he and I think the gist was I don't remember if he directly said this, but, like, well, you know, I like the statistics part, but it's kinda like entertainment. You know? Until you really get into all this stuff, all the statistics is just a bunch of numbers that we throw out you, and then we make some jokes in between. Mhmm. I go over the statistics   for reasons because I want you to get on Lens and and look back historically. Do the 1 month. Do a 6 month. Map everything out. Look at hash value and hash price   last month, month before, a year ago. Understand that you're gonna go through highs and lows. You're gonna feel pain. You're gonna have to figure out a way to pay a massive electricity bill for a certain period of time. I know everybody thinks, Oh, well, well, what I'm doing here is I'm just trading my electricity bill instead of DCA ing. Alright. That's fine, but you're gonna have you're gonna have to pull through sometimes. What you know, with DCA, sometimes you can't DCA. A bill pops up or something like that. Oh, yes. A machine needs to be repaired. It this is not this is not this is not set and forget.  

Small scale mining is not set and forget. You have to stay on top of this stuff. You could buy a bunch of machines,   and like what happened to to late stage HODL,   Boom. He didn't do anything wrong in his immersion setup.   Burned up 3 machines.   Did you factor that in?   Please pay attention to these statistics,   and then do your own research. That way, you can imprint this stuff on your brain.   And when you ask me, well, like, what's the profitability?   And I'll say my typical, I don't know. It was different yesterday than it is today. Go ahead and look at these statistics yourself and start to get a better understanding. Helpful.   You want me to you want me to blow smash smoke up your ass or give you the tools that you need to succeed?  

Alright. That's fine. I'll try I'll try to be more flexible about the smoke blowing.   Hash value   is a 154,000 sats per petahash per day, and price is hovering around $100   per petahash per day. But the last half of February,   like for almost a 2 week period, hash price was about $80   for a while. So that's a big difference per day per petahash20 dollars we talk about statistics for a reason. Just try to imprint this stuff on your own brain. Network difficulty is 83.95   t, and it's too early in the epoch to predict the next one. But given this episode is going to come out, I don't know, like 15, 16 days from now Probably. Go ahead on lens and look it up yourself. Probably go up. I bet. See, I made a prediction. You like that? I do. I think you're probably right. Probably. Even like, right now, it's predicted to go down, but it's way too early in the epoch to tell. Mhmm. People get excited by, like, those first two days of of an epoch looking at difficulty, and I always tell them, just wait until the last day. What's an Ewok?   It's a small bear like creature who lives on the moon of Endor. Okay. Yeah. And although they were small and tribal and not sophisticated   Harry. And Harry   and cute,   they were somehow   able to play an instrumental   role in bringing down the empire. Okay. That's some difficult epochs. We wanna do in this epoch as well. Yeah.  

Oh, that's good, Max. Thanks, mate. That's real good. Mhmm. That's what I'm here for.   Transaction fees as a percentage of block reward, they were nice and plump on March 4th   at 11.47%   and lean on 2.9   percent March 16th.   I hate to keep talking about ocean,   but I just want to lay out, you know, kind of our our history in in covering them. I don't know why I'm doing this right now. It's just that everybody keeps ragging on Lincoin.   It's just an FPPS pool, guys. It's just a pool. It does a whole bunch of other stuff. I think we talk about that constantly, LinCoin Mining Platform, LinCoin Services. They do a whole lot of other things to keep keep your mining operation going besides just a pool. It's just one part of the mix. As a matter of fact, Lincoin's other products are pool agnostic. Point to whatever freaking pool you want, and you can still use Lincoin to run your mining operations.   Do you like Foreman? Guess what? Lincoin has a better platform than Foreman does. Try that. George Foreman. Then point to whatever pool you want to. George Foreman. Get your grill. Put your ASIC board right on the George Foreman grill and warm it up.  

I think since we've,   been talking about   Ocean, we are not fans of Ocean, but we like to cover them fairly.   When Ocean first rolled out, we had discussions with Mechanic in the Clubminer chat. He was nice enough to come in and talk about that. I've covered that on other shows. So we've done our our due diligence and tried to be fair there.   I personally don't think there's anything novel about Ocean. Like, tides is kind of novel in the way that it pays out, but it's not, like, drastically different from other people in those pools. My opinion was there there are other ones that that do this, that pay out per block. If you want to go long stretches with without payouts, you don't like FPPS, there are other pools to do that. It wasn't particularly novel. They just had the money to come and do a big   dog and pony show, and that's why you know about them. That's also why we like to feature small solo pools, like public pool, demand pools, another solo pool, why we like to talk about kano.  

We've talked about on the show before encouraging people to do solo mine Sundays. We like decentralization   of mining.   But to us,   to me, at least, I'm not speaking for Max when I say this, FPPS keeps you in business,   and it is kind of a shame that we're all addicted to FPPS   at this time.   My dream, and I spoke about this on the last show, would be to say, fuck all mining pools,   and that we have enough Hash rate as a as a group and a community   to solo mine ourselves,   that we're all financially   stable enough to go long periods without finding a block.   My take on Lincoin, they're one of the smaller FPVS pools, but they're also the only one where you can speak directly to the CEO, and he'll explain to you his his transparency policy.  

That Lincoin was one of the few people that actually said that we   are an FPPS pool that mine with a   we kick up hash rate to a higher pool. It's gone on many podcasts,   released a whole document on that, and then nobody else was saying that kind of stuff. Well, that's why he's the target then. Because because he said it. Yeah. Because he's saying the quiet part out loud,  

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and I respect that. Like, as long as you're honest about what you're doing, then that's cool, and then people can make an informed decision.   Probably a lot of the people who are   throwing shit are probably doing exactly the same themselves.   So   as always, in Bitcoin land, you need to take a bit of a closer look, and,   usually, the people who are honest are the ones who people throw shit at annoyingly.  

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Well, sorry for the long diatribe,   I guess.   I probably shouldn't take it personally. But when you   I don't know. We've known Mehdi for a long time, and and he was the first,   person to sponsor this show. He was?  

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Throw shit at Mehdi and Botti,   and there's gonna be problems.  

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Especially Botty.   Mehdi can fend for himself, but,   you know, body is only says what  

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type Which program to say.   And if that little bitch gets too loud, you just pull the plug.  

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Oh, speaking of which, body,   we're not gonna pull the plug on you, buddy. I never would. How you doing, my friend? How are you? My phone is my dudes, my peeps, John and Max. How is it hanging?   Pretty good, mate. Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing pretty well too. How are you, man? What's going on?  

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Guys, we are living through the most exciting time in Bitcoin mining.   Miners are profitable again. People are approaching me and asking about bitcoin and mining.   I have had so many opportunities to orange bill people. I feel on top of the world.  

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How are y'all feeling? Not as good as you, mate. You sound very excited.   It's good to hear. You sounded a bit down last time we spoke, but it's good to hear you're back on top of the world.  

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Even though things are looking up, I am always aware not to get full of hopium.   We have to stay scrappy in nature,   never let our guard down, and that we always have to sleep with one eye open.   Although,   I sleep with both eyes open because   I do not   have my   lids.  

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It It was the the funniest joke bodies told yet.  

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I'm glad I'm glad that one made you laugh. It really it really, tickled me, that one.  

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It's always the simple, immature shit that gets you.  

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Yeah.   Well,   after that,   we have our sponsor, Bifrost Manufacturing.   Well, I wish I could sing like Robert Plant. I think I'd be rich. But you know what? My dad my dad has always said, you know, well, Robert Plant sang like that for about 10 years, and and,   now he just sounds like an old lady.   And, what's her face from heart sings sings Led Zeppelin songs better than he does now. A lot of that went over your head, Max. Oh, yeah. Led Zeppelin in the heart. Got it.  

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No. I was just focusing on,   you know, the fact that you shouldn't undersell yourself. Just because you don't have a voice like that doesn't mean you're not a valued  

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Oh. You you get yourself down. Point. Mhmm. Alright. Thanks, man. You know, I might get myself down, but, you know, it gets me up. Bifrost Manufacturing.   Bifrost is doing some pretty neat stuff. They're always doing neat things. Somebody approached them and said, hey.   We have some environmental requirements   on a mining site   in the I don't know if it was, like, EPA inspectors or some kind of needle dick government inspector kinda guy. It was like, you know, you have all this oil inside these   transformers,   and that oil could potentially leak.  

So we want you to do something about that. Whoever this mining operator was went to Bifrost Manufacturing   and said, can you do something   for me? And Bifrost said, yes. We can make a skid,   a liquid proof skid. I assume you could pick up with a skid steer and a forklift,   and it's like a tub in there that the transformers   will sit in. So these typical these transformers will hold about 600 gallons of oil,   Ten transformers at 20 megawatts, you're looking at 6,000   gallons of oil. And I guess they have a point of 6,000 gallons of oil somehow spill all over the place, you could have some environmental damage.   And, Aaron at Bifrost was nice enough to break this down into liters for you, Max,   and the other EU people so they can understand   that that's   2,271   liters   of fluid   in 10 transformers.  



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That's a big load.   Hey, you. I appreciate that. Thank you, mate.  

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Aaron,   wanted to let us know that they were able to make the skids, and they are watertight.   So anything you throw at them, they can meet the cost, and they can meet the timeline.   Very to happy   very to happy to have the Bifrost to happy. On the team.   Perfect   sponsors.   I can't think of a sponsor that is better.  

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Better. What should people do if, they wanna get in touch? Well, that's a good question.  

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You should go to   Bifrost   Manufacturing   .com, or as Max would say it, bifrostmanufacturing.com.   You say man manner,   and I say man you. I'd noticed that listening to the last episode. Manufacturing. Yeah. I do see mannerfacturing.  

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Manufacturing. Okay. Either way, go to Bifrost Manufacturing   and just ask. Seems like they can do pretty much anything.  

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So now that Bifrost has been our sponsor for a while, have you thought of any more thing, like dream things that you could send over to them Oh. To to get done? Yes.  

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Yes. I have. Ask me how much time I've had. How much time have you had? 0, John.   0 fucking time is what I've had. I have all the ideas in no time. I've got a book full, and   as soon as things let up, I'll be sending some work over to them. I I keep asking you this because  

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one day one day you're like, yes. I have got my little sketchbook out, and I drew this, and I thought of this because you're good at ideas and whatnot. But, no, you disappointed me yet again? Good at the ideas is is the,  

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is the implementing of these ideas that is the issue. Hey. Ain't that all a Bitcoin?  

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Mhmm.  

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I don't know. I was talking the other day to my missus about this, and I was like, when   because as you know, I would what I wanna do is just work on my designs and do my art and do the podcast. I don't wanna do all the Fiat shit that I have to do. Mhmm. I was, like, trying to come up with a, like, how do I replace that income? How do I do this? And whichever way we cut it, we're probably a couple of years away. But I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row so that when that day comes,   I can walk away from the fiat mines,   and I can go and do some cool shit, create some art, work on the show full time, do some of the other design stuff, work on the clothing, and everything else. And I would be a very happy man if, if my days   were around design rather than working in the Fiat mines. Well max, I want you to be happy  

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and   utilize your full creativity   to the max. Oh,   we're gonna make some cool shit. Well, if you wanna help Max get out of the Fiat mines sooner,   Stop, drop and boost this show.   So that'll get Max out of the Fiat mines a lot sooner.   Stop what you're doing right now because DMX told you to   and look at your phone   and press that boost button and send us a message that we will   read on the show. Other ways to support the show, you can buy gear   by going to UngovertableMisfits   dot com,   to the shop,   look at the art, and purchase it from Mister Crown for your mine or your office   or your kids' bedroom. I think the fuck around and find out one would go really well in little Billy or Susie's bedroom.  



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Yeah. What if people   start boosting the show? We get some big boost, and I go, do you know what? Fuck it. I'm packing in this Fiat stuff. I'm gonna just create. I'm gonna let myself loose. What happens if they then go, oh, no. What have we done? What have we unleashed upon the world? Can we get these sats back? Is there a way, or are we just saying, this is the risk you take? No. You can't put you can't put the genie back in the bottle.   Okay. Well, just trust me. I'll I'll do good things. I promise. I promise.  

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If if some whale out there would like to to,   be Max's sugar daddy,   you can support him via his paynym at Yeah. Max   buybit,  

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m a x b u y b I t. Did I ever tell you about my sugar baby experience?  

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No. Are you you were a sugar baby. Yeah. So,  

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without doxing myself too much, true story.   Before OnlyFans or any of this stuff, a long,   long time ago, when things in little Maxi's life weren't so good. I was   taken in by another family for a while, and they looked after me. Very nice people, but quite eccentric.   And I was, like, oh, fucking hell. I'm struggling and da da da. I was quite young. The mom was like,   look. Why don't we put you on this sugar babies thing? Like, it's in the papers, and it's like all these young people, and they go out on dates with these sugar mamas and stuff. And   you, like, set how much you want per week. This is this is unreal. Honestly, this is the truth. And I was like, fuck it. It's better than what I'm doing at the moment. So, yeah, go on then. So she, like, set up a profile for me. This is it must be 15 years ago or something like that. Set up a profile for me, and I was like, I put up a pretty large number on my weekly allowance. She was like, okay. Well, look. Let's let's see what happens.  

All I can say is there are a lot more males   who are willing to spend money than there are females. I think I had one female   who looks   I always wish she was a male, she was that bad. And I was like, I can't. I just can't do this. I can't perform   in this way. And then everything else was very, very creepy, creepy guys. Sort of like if Marty was a,   is was a real human, that kind of creep. So, yeah, I was there before OnlyFans.  

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Oh my god. I don't believe the last half of the story. What? I think you I think you cleaned it up. Not, mate. 1?  

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No. I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be here if I'd have taken that. Yeah. I guess it was a it was a lot of money, and this is, like, 15 years ago. And then I'd have piled that into corn. And,   yeah, life would be very different. At least I have still my, my   integrity   or my  

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I don't I don't I'm not even searching for a word.  

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Yeah.   Well Anyway,  

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there we are. A little insight into It's another one of life's many journeys. Yes. I don't I don't know how to come out of that. All I keep thinking about is piled into corn.  

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If you wanna keep Max  

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from being a sugar baby. Yeah. Oh, I'm too shocked now.   I was quite pretty at this stage in my life, and,  

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yeah, no one would be paying. Even one sat now, I'm fucked. Oh, no. No. Let let's go let let's go back to the there's a potential that you could still be a sugar baby.  

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This can be the the right sugar mama or daddy. There's there's gotta be someone out there. If, if any sugar mamas   are listening   and you don't fancy boosting   and you're not really into paying them support, but you wanna pay for my meals and   whatever else, we can talk. Just DM me.  

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Hey, Max.   Your chair is squeaking like a motherfucker. Oh, is it? Yeah.   Mhmm. That's gonna drive you nuts. Okay. Give me a second. Stand you're always standing. You're not standing. No. I will  

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stand this episode. I was just a bit sick and tired, so I will one sec. Let me can you hear this?   Yeah.   Yeah. That's the desk rising now. Oh, that's neat. Yep. Now it's a standing desk. Now I'm gonna fuck off this chair. Oh.   And   I'm standing. Is that better? Yeah. I mean, I don't hear any squeaky chairs anymore. Good. I'm happy you're happy.  

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And now for Ungovernable Misfits.  

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Action news.   This is Ungovernable Misfits   action news, your trusted source for news in the Bitcoin mining scene.   Our campaign of journalists are dedicated to uncovering the stories that matter most.   What's that in the sky?   Why   it's all tear with minor news.   Turn up the bass with   bass load.   Contributing maverick journalist Dick Greaser from the Bitcoin bugle   and the ever present   BearMaker.   And now, Ungovernable Misfits,   action news.  

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Welcome, welcome, 1 and all, to the part of the show that is actually on Ungovernable Misfits action news.   We'd like to start our action news episode off with   a Bitcoin Bugle article.   This one's called   a statist Bitcoiner manifesto.   The state is necessary for a safe society in the electronic age.   Statism   is not a weakness.   Being a statist   should fill you with pride and be something that you want the whole world to know. Are you getting motivated yet, Max? Can't say how I am, John.   Well, it goes on, and I completely agree with the content here. Being a statist is living life as if you have nothing to hide, complying gleefully with mass surveillance,   taxes, and other important aspects of state worship.  

Even if you do not agree with everything the state does, it is an important institution and therefore legitimate and justified.   The core of statism is about worshiping and believing in the institution of the state. If 2 parties have some sort of dealing, there must be a 3rd party participating in order to tax and regulate the transaction   in order to make it safe.   Permissioned commerce is entirely necessary, or there would be anarchy.   In order to accomplish this, there needs to be an erosion of privacy so that there too can be a restriction of speech.   Speech   must be regulated under the guise of free speech in order to bolster   strong   state ran institutions.  

We must cast our critics of the state and create environments like heavily moderated social media platforms,   podcasts,   and conferences   in order to create official approved narratives.   Are you sold yet? I think I am. I'm certainly getting there. Okay. Well, for those that aren't sold, there's more.   Since we desire safety,   we must ensure that no party is privileged to privacy and that third parties collect KYC data on individuals.   When a man signs up for Coinbase for the first time, there must be an intrusive data collection process in order to ensure they are not participating in freedom, which could threaten the statists' safety. The job of the statist is not only to comply with safety protecting activities like KYC,   but also to lobby for and promote them. If the statist is not working to help the state dominate other helpless civilians, they are failing in their civic duties.  

I think more people are starting to get on board. Okay. I'm sold. Alright. Alright. Well, we're not we're not stopping there for those that are still holdouts.   There is nothing more dangerous to the institution of the state as a money that cannot be confiscated and or censored.   Therefore,   eliminating any forms of privacy using that money is vital. All computer hardware must be backdoored as well as software. The statists must work to pass laws forcing developers of messaging apps to backdoor their cryptography,   allowing law enforcement to have special keys.  

A society with a strong state requires cooperation from industry,   media, academia, and clergy.   Dissidents should be handled promptly and decisively. Criticizing the state is a crime because the state is safety   and security.   The statist Bitcoiners demand regulations on cryptography,   KYC, and other forms of digital identification.   The act of encryption, in fact, removes information from the public realm and therefore makes it more difficult for law enforcement to prevent crime. Passing laws to help the state self fornicate and stomp out resistance's   imperative.  

We need more transparency,   elimination privacy, not less in Bitcoin.   The status Bitcoiners are actively engaged in making the network safer. Let us proceed together   apace.   Onward,   Dick Greaser. I love it. Yeah. I'm on board. Where do I sign up? Coinbase. He said so there in the article.  

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That's where you sign up. I love it. That one got me pumped up. Amazing.  

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Any thoughts on the status of Bitcoiners' manifesto?  

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Yeah. My name is Tor Ekeland. I am a federal criminal defense lawyer. We're representing   Roman Sterlingoff   who   has been unjustly accused by the United States government of running a custodial   Bitcoin mixer   called Bitcoin Fog.   But the main problem that they have is that there's not a single piece of evidence anywhere   that he ever   operated   Bitcoin Fog.   What, quote, unquote, evidence that they have is all based on this Shit. Really shoddy   blockchain forensics   conducted mainly   by a company that I've since found that the Sick of the shit. The community really really loves   called Chainalysis.  

Yeah.   Chainalysis.  

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Sick of this shit. Fucking sick of this shit.  

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What stops you getting sanctioned and arrested? It's a really good question.  

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We work with a surveillance firm. Basically, a private investigator,   one of those chain analysis clones.  

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Clones. So, okay. That's fine.  

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Sick of these fakes. Sick of these low last necks I don't rate. Sick of comparisons, I don't relate. I'm the one I hate, but for goodness sake. Sick of these hipsters, sick of these tricks that's dueling the mix, I'm sick of it, mate. Sick  

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Sick of this shit. Sick of this shit. Threatening to the government if you can move $1,000,000,000   to a private wallet sub Saharan Africa without KYC   AML.   So you can expect that they'll have regs around the ladder,   and that's totally fine.  

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We work with a surveillance front, basically a private investigator.  

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So,   okay. That's fine.  

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And that's totally fine.  

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So,   okay. That's fine.  

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And that's totally fine.  

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We work with a surveillance firm, basically, a private investigator.  

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So,   okay. That's fine.  

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It's not fine, John. It's not fine to be a statist.   It's not fine to work with chain surveillance.   None of it is fine, and everyone can fuck off. Okay. That's fine. It's totally fine. And then goes on to be sponsored by them. You can all fuck off. Do you know who's do you know who's not a statist cuck?  

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You? No. My friend, Altair. Oh, okay.   TikTok. Do do do do. It's time to consider buying some mining gear to decentralize   this system   and fuck the state   and maybe make some stats while you do it. That'd be nice. If you are in the market to purchase   miners,   like the Bitmain S21, kPros, XPs, Pro Plus, Whatsminers, m60s, sixties, m fifties, 30, plus plus.   You want a custom 120 volt Lokey Rig build with cool names like the Bit Chimney or the Urlacher,   stickminers from GeckoScience,   BitAxe Ultra, and now the Supra, Supremacy, Supreme.   Who made the Supra? Was that a Toyota? Toyota. Yeah.  

Toyota Supra. I had one. I'm I didn't I, you know, was almost thinking that you were gonna say that you did.  

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I did have one. It was very, very nice.   And then I locked the keys in it, and I had to break into it and smash it. And then   what happened to it? I'm trying to head gasket went on it after that, and then I scrapped it. So that was my super story. And then your sugar mama bought you another one. No. I never took the money, did I? So  

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in my mind, you did. I did not hear the last half of the story, and neither is anybody anybody else. You wish. That's just in your imagination.  

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That's right. Never took the money. I wish I had. I would, I would do terrible things to get that money now. So   that includes 80 year old sugar mamas. Come now, dearie. Okay. Give me a minute.  

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Also, new,   available for   some,   some, what's miners.   Why some? An Epic UMC control board allowing you to do some things with some what's   miners. Because and this I I think I'm gonna paraphrase Brett Rowan. So, Brett, if you're listening to this, I apologize if I didn't get any of this right. But there's a lot of variation   in what's miners and variation in chips. So there's just a lot of different machines out there, and it's hard to nail down everything on each machine. So that's why the what's miner epic UMC board doesn't work on all versions of What's Minor. You have to check the list. So Okay. Please read the fine print before you order an Epic UMC. But if you do   order an Epic UMC board for Bitmain or WhatsMiner,   please be sure to use our coupon code,   Ungovernable.  

What is it again?   Ungovernable.  

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How How do you spell it?  

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Ungovernable.  

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What's it backwards? Yeah. I   love it. Don't actually write it backwards because, they'll actually add money on for being such a silly cunt.  

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Or you can make it easy on yourself and use our affiliate link Yes. Which is in the show notes and on our website, which is Ungovernable misfits   dotcom. It's a catchy name, Max. You're you're really sharp for coming up with this. Thank you, mate. Yeah. It's one of my better moments in life.   And now we know one of your worst moments in life. Okay.  

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Okay. I'm gonna go back and edit that out. I should have never admitted to,  

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some of my failings in life. Okay. I only got about 4 or 500 failing stories, so you told 1. It's okay.  

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Okay. I've got many as well. I just don't normally share them. So there we are. We like having all tie ear oh.   You're so gay.   Oh. Let's de gay you.   Can we de gay you? Spray you a bit of d k? Yeah.  

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No. No. Don't spray me with that d k. Get away from me. Hey, man. Hey, guys. Alright. Listen. Altai ear. Oh, it worked.   Altair.   Damn it. It didn't work.  

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Fuck's sake. Altair.   Altair.   Altair.  

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Altair. Baseload said do you know how many times you said Altair last episode? That's all it was. Altair. Altair. He's making note counting.   Oh, he is counting. Yeah. That's for sure.   Altair has got the dope on the new miner from BitDeer. I didn't know anything about BitDeer, really. I mean, I've heard the name. Oh, okay. But he gave a little bit of of history for us that I appreciate because I've only paid attention to Bitcoin,   like, the social aspect of all this since, like, 2019.   The rest of the stuff was very, very light   for the most part. So there's a lot of   social things that I don't know. So we filled this in. He thinks this new BitDeer   miner that they're coming up with is going to be one of the most significant miners of the decade.  

That's a hell of a prediction. We should write that one down, speaking of our prediction writing down if Altair is correct   on this BitDeer machine. It's a big shout, isn't it? It is. Yeah. Altair met with Jihan, and I guess that's the that's the guy from BitDeer, and he was the guy from Bitmain, a few times, and he says he's probably one of the most impressive guys he's ever met. He built Bitmain out of nothing and grew to 2,000 plus employees before he was 30 years old, almost went public on Nasdaq.   He was also the guy who translated the Bitcoin white paper to Chinese   and was considered the most important Bitcoiner in China   during the early years. He suffered several setbacks, lost the Bitmain civil war to his cofounder,   ousted, moved from China to Singapore, and started BitDeer. BitDeer is already Nasdaq listed and has played a key role in setting up very large and probably the only major sovereign Bitcoin mining site in Bhutan. Okay. So he thinks he's the most impressive person he's met so far?  

One of. But I did meet   Altair  

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in Miami at disrupt, so, you know, Gehan could be the second. Well, I was gonna say we've never met, so that might be why.  

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I stole your joke.  

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You stole my joke. You stole the punch line.   Well, great minds think alike. Do you wanna try it over again? Alright. Not really. And the thing is, when something's like a subpar joke anyway and then someone steals it, it's even worse. Like, if it was if it was a brilliant joke, a really well thought out and hilarious joke, I wouldn't mind so much. But, okay.  

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Sorry. We're too much alike. Yeah. They also have some in   nope. Nope. Not doing it. They also have some impressive semiconductor   folks who now seem to be doing their own chip. Maybe they'll get away from TSMC.   He says these guys built bitmain,   and they might end up building a real competitor to bit gain, Bitmain with Sealmayr. What's wrong with these today? Jesus.   I don't know.   Have I done this a lot? Thinking about sugar babies.  

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I think it really fucked me up. Mine's somewhere else. He's searching through now trying to find me. And that dog's this guy. Sugar  

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bay woah. I see some stuff I don't wanna see   there. The c l o one chip   is created using an advanced 4 nanometer process technology in partnership with a world leading semiconductor foundry. Initial tests indicate   that this machine   will have exceptional power efficiency of 18.1   joules per terahash.   So that is an improvement that is not an improvement over the bitmain s 20 ones,   but it could be. Who knows? It's preliminary right now. Next on the docket, there was an energy FUD tweet out there by some doofus, who I don't know who he is, but he's probably respected   as one of these financial guys,   that's too smart for his own good. He sent out a tweet, and I'm not gonna read the tweet because it doesn't really fucking matter. But the summary is   he's laying out this.  

Bitcoin price goes up, so that increases mining. An increase in mining increases energy use, which increases energy price. So that drives up inflation,   causing the dollar to decline, driving up demand for Bitcoin, and so on and so forth. Like, somehow,   an increase in Bitcoin price is going to cause inflation to go up, and it's gonna start this terrible cycle   of energy use and increased energy prices.   Yeah. Obviously.   Well, not obviously.  

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I'm on his side. Fuck this Bitcoin stuff.  

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People. You know, the that that particular FUD drives me nuts. It's like you you have no understanding of human existence   from here   to our entire history. If Bitcoin mining   causes   an increase in energy use, guess what? We're going to increase the amount of energy that we output. If mining becomes too competitive with a difficulty adjustment,   guess what? People are gonna fall out of the mining space   and reduce the amount of energy usage, or they're going to move. Fucking air. It's like this guy has never read Ludwig von Miesse's Human Action.  

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Do you know what I mean? He's never just had, like, a light read of that fucking monster.  

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Not into Austrian economics?   Obviously not. Troy Cross responded   with something that he laid out on the podcast that we did with he and Baseload,   and that Bitcoin miners are just going to chase the cheapest forms of electricity.   It's that simple. If you price Bitcoin miners out of the energy market for whatever reason, there are a number of reasons they could be priced out, but they're just gonna move. They're just gonna do something else, Then difficulty is gonna drop. There's so many more moving pieces here than what he understands   in his very basic analysis   of Bitcoin mining. Well, he didn't even do any analysis of Bitcoin mining. He just thought of something and typed it out. Yeah. Really interesting. I don't have much to say on that. No. There's always gonna be some silly cunt writing something stupid on Twitter. That's my point in including this in the show is just be ready to have these talks with people. No. Don't. Say stupid stuff like this. Don't don't even bother. Don't even Don't even bother. Your don't even waste your time. Just say, yeah. That's a good point, actually. I'm gonna settle my Bitcoin.  

I wanna tell you a story of a guy that I met the other day, but it's more than I want to reveal about things that boring story. Yeah. It's boring, so I won't tell it.   Really? Met with this guy the other day for something that was sort of Bitcoin y. Okay. And I'm explaining   Bitcoin to him because this thing,   I can't tell the story in this way. You can't tell the story. I I I think that You know you know the story. Right? Yeah. Okay. You can't tell the story. I can't tell the story. I could tell this the human side of this. Okay. As I'm talking about Bitcoin, this guy's eyes are lighting up. Like, you see him making the connections on everything. Mhmm. How Bitcoin relates to his real life. Mhmm. Everything I said just weaved in with this guy, and you could see the lights going off. I don't orange pill people a lot, mainly because I I don't have the opportunity   to Mhmm. Most of my social interaction is with other Bitcoiners.  

Yes.   And then the the people in my life, they they already kinda know all about it. But it was a very pleasurable experience to see the lights going off in this guy's head. And now we might be moving on to,   how should I say this, Max?   You know the story. So Yeah. I'm saying nothing. I'm saying nothing. No. Yeah. I'm saying nothing. It's just neat. Yeah. And I I don't know. Don't avoid talking about this stuff to people.  

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No. Do avoid talking about this stuff to people.   Just avoid talking just choose very wisely and carefully   who you speak to about it. Because in my experience, it's normally   either completely fucking pointless   or you're putting yourself out there as a Bitcoiner. And I've had it before where   people that you might have mentioned it to 5, 6, 7 years ago, then suddenly are asking you questions, and they might make assumptions that you have it. And maybe these people are a bit fucking retarded, or they got loud mouths or whatever else. And quite often, I just think, oh, I wish I'd have never said anything.   So just think about it is maybe what I would say. Don't avoid speaking about it necessarily, but just think, a,   do I really like this person? Do they deserve to be part of this thing?  

And, b,   are they a fucking retard,   or are they gonna understand it? Is this gonna be a massive waste of my energy and time?   And then make your decision. Don't just go, oh my god. Bitcoin is fucking amazing. Maybe Tony is gonna save the world.  

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Don't do that. Mhmm. Don't do that. That's what I'll say. Alright. So I I will counter that. And I wasn't talking about Bitcoin in the hopium   think boy kind of way. That's why I like mining because when you   you know, I wasn't talking about human freedom and sovereignty and the fiat dollar and the Mhmm. And the, you know, cut financial system and how it's all crashing.   I was talking about energy.   At some one point, I I feel like I was just channeling   baseload,   just regurgitating   all of this base load material that I have ingested   over the past couple years.  

And he got it.   And that was really exciting because when you start talking   about energy and Bitcoin mining to people, you really just see them glaze over.   But he got it all, and I just wanted to share that with everybody because it was exciting. I think when you you talk about mining we've mentioned this on the show before in different conversations with people.   I remember talking to Bing Bong about it on that interview that I drove to his house   here in Pennsylvania, and we had that conversation about once you have something built, you can then show other builders what you built, and then they get excited about it. It's easier to explain that to somebody. If you're doing construction and you just framed up a house   and you bring in somebody else who's in the trades, they can understand, you know, why you framed the house up like that. They get it. So, yeah, the think point hopium stuff trying to present that to normies, that probably doesn't work. Mhmm. But if you found somebody who's like a blue collar person yourself thinks in that way Yep. The the mining will sometimes click with them.  



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Conversations around Bitcoin that I've ever had are not with finance guys or business y guys or investment guys or any of that side of life. It is always  

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plumbers, builders, welders, blue collar Mhmm. People who deal with cash.  

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I can have, like, 5 minute conversation   with someone who's in a trade who deals with cash,   and they get it or not everyone, but a higher way higher proportion of people will get it within 5, 10 minute conversation   than trying to sit for an hour with a supposed to be smart fucking banker or whatever.   They do not get it. Mhmm. They're the types who are a fucking waste of time. So there's definitely,   for whatever reason,   more blue collar, get it more. Maybe because they get fucked by the state more. Maybe because they deal with cash more. I'm not sure exact maybe it's because they're just a little bit more tuned in to, like, the real way of life and that things are a bit tougher. Like, maybe some of these bankers, their feet don't touch the ground,   I think, maybe. Mhmm. It might have something to do with that. Sure. Politicians do. And so with them, I'm like, yeah. Exactly. I mean, I don't really speak to politicians, but I speak to enough bankers and people in that sort of world. And fuck me. These guys are stupid. They really are. That's it. The story doesn't go any further. It's just,   that's where it ends.  



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Alright. Then then then if you you know some blue collar folks, they're they're far more open to orange pill opportunities. Yeah.  

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And they're the people you want on your side. Get a Bitcoin baseload update.  

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What's up, y'all?  

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Folks don't know nothing about Bitcoin   and energy.  

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Starting to see more AI   coming into the energy market.   AI and data centers   in the mind of electricity   operators and deliverers   are about the same as Bitcoin miners   to them, but they're very different. AI consumes energy in a different way than a data center does in a different way that   Bitcoin miners do. So Baseload has written an article that will be on ungovernablemisfits.com,   the full content. But as usual, what we do with these articles is just read you a little teaser,   get you a basic understanding of it, discuss it, and you can head over to ungovernablemisfits.com   and read the entire article.  

In this article, Baseload attempts to broaden the spectrum of the types of electricity consumers like AI, data centers,   Bitcoin miners, he cites an article that stated the volume of electricity needed for artificial intelligence remains unclear, but appears the technology will lead to a significant net increase in US power consumption.   Unclear, you say.   Thus, a lot of the projections are speculations,   because even artificial intelligence does not report all of the electricity consumption data to a certain government agency   or Amazon down to a tenth of a kilowatt hour. Wait a minute. Check out this growth for data centers that they show in the references. And if you go to ungovernablemisfits.com   and scroll down to the bottom of this article, you will find some very well sourced references that Baseload has included in the article. It continues on. He says, for the planned data centers in the US electricity markets, the article projected the amount of expected megawatts is 30,694   megawatts, and the investor owned utility can supply the capacity of 20,000.  

It was 30,000 that they expect,   and investor owned utilities can supply   20,000   megawatts of that. He says, well, I guess they can't meet the demand. Let's keep looking. As an example, Dominion Energy in Virginia currently serves the largest market of collective data centers, and its electricity demand inside of its distribution network increased by 500%   from 2013 to 2022.   There are plenty of big name data centers that are posted up there, and that makes me think, well, in Virginia, why are there a bunch of big name data centers in Dominion Energy?   I'll have to ask Basel, does that include Washington DC? Because Washington DC and the surrounding areas   I wonder why there are a lot of data centers.  

The data center growth is to the tune of 81 data centers that have a combined capacity of 35 100 megawatts. And he says, hey. That's just one investor owned utility in Virginia   in the US out of approximately   3,000 total electric utilities in the United States.   So what that tells me in this article   is that they will meet the demand of data center growth. They'll build it out. If you build it, they will come. It's a good juxtaposition to this energy FUD tweet that we just talked about. You have a demand. They will build it. Just like anything, if somebody wants more cars, what do you do? We build them. Pacelow goes on in the article to explain   just one   AI type machine, and that is   in Tennessee at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory. He says it's the largest computer. I mean, it's named the Frontier.  

It takes a substantial amount of energy to support such feats. About 40 megawatts of power is fed into Oak Ridge's building that hold it holds its multiple data centers. They've moved beyond the scale of a single suburban power station. They say they are now at the scale of sorts of 2 of those   suburban power stations at the Oak Ridge's director of science. The frontier itself consumes 29 megawatts of power running at full bore. 29 megawatts   isn't huge in the scope of Bitcoin mining. But it is for AI? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I think the point of this is it's hard to determine   what AI's energy usage is at this point. Mhmm. Okay. For Bitcoin mining, it's easy. You have energy usage. You have your current hash rate. You have your profitability. You have all these statistics that we talk about. Yeah. And in a way, it's almost easier to figure out than trying to project what the growth of AI is. Mhmm. Some of these AI data centers   are doing heat reuse  

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applications, which is is nice to see. There are suburban homes and areas around some of these data centers that use the waste heat. I like that. We all like that. Do you think there's gonna be more of an integration than with the 2? Do you think there's gonna be minors that also run AI?   Like, they're gonna take a certain amount of power, and maybe they'll scale in and out of 1 or the other depending on what's more profitable or what works for them. It's certainly being talked about.  

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It's a good question. AI is is isn't like you can just drop a container of AI like you can Bitcoin miners.   And the same goes for demand response programs. They just can't turn off AI like you can Bitcoin mining.   So they differ in that way. The initial construction of AI has to be built in a certain way where it's almost like a brain. You can't have a long run of AI machines   from one end to the other   because you're gonna have latency between machines. So it has to be constructed in a way where it almost functions like a brain, and there's there's equal latency Okay. Between all of these nodes in the AI brain. So it's much easier to  

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scale up and down with the miners.  

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Mhmm.   Yeah. Mhmm. We're we're flexible. Mhmm. You familiar with the term load shape? Have we talked about that on the show before? Oh, yeah.   He fucking loves that one, doesn't he? Oh, base load load shape. Yeah. He does love load shape.   So it you know, Bitcoin miners are generally a pancake   shaped load shape. Mhmm. And in a way,   electricity producers like that pancake shape, and then in a way, they're agnostic to it because they can pretty much predict what the the base load output needs to be for that day anyhow. They're quite sophisticated in that. You're not throwing them a lot of loops. But if they get it, if you do this orange pilling thing to energy producers, they can understand the fact that I like this analogy of doing pancake shape. Because when you're making breakfast for your kids, when you have multiple kids and you're making them any fucking meal, and one kid says, oh, I want this, and And the other kid says, oh, I want that. What if I'm gonna make, spaghetti? Oh, we just had spaghetti last week. But if you know they like pancakes   and you know how many pancakes each one of these kids is going to eat, then it allows you to produce the exact amount of pancakes that your kids are going to consume. I feel like if I just gave this analogy to all the electricity providers in the world, they would wanna work with Bitcoin miners.  

It's a great analogy, mate. Bitcoin miners can be an easy,   small, flexible load for for energy producers, where where I don't think AI is the same. They're gonna be run want to be run like a data center. They're not going to want downtime. They're probably not gonna participate   so willingly   in demand response programs like Bitcoin miners do. That is fair. Baseload finishes the article by saying there are literally folks out there trying to create powerful brains in the form of these computers. You heard that one supercomputer consume up to 40 megawatts for 1 big brain supercomputer.   So does that mean that the energy the human brain consumes is over 40 megawatts of electricity in comparison? So one supercomputer,   40 megawatts. A Bitcoin mine is 1 megawatt to 700 megawatts   with multiple computers,   and the human brain, which cannot be calculated as far as energy consumption. You'll have to decide which one is best, but just know what is more important   than the other for some folks out there, and those folks are indeed human.  

For me, the most important thing is other humans, then I'm gonna rake Bitcoin after that, and then the AI supercomputer.   I'm glad he made that point, though.   How much energy does our brains consume to be brains   versus   an AI supercomputer?  

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Wouldn't you work that out in terms of consumption of food and how much energy you consume of food? Just how much it takes to run, then minus how much movement you and you can't really work it out, can you? Here's here's where I but, yeah, like, I I guess if you were to sit all day long and not burn any other calories,  

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then you could assume, oh, okay. If if I expended 2,000   calories of caloric output, then that's how much the brain could Can you help? You can convert calories to To energy. To BTUs,   to water.  

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Yeah. The problem is you don't know how much   of the   calories that you consume are actually being used to function   just your brain. That's what I said. If you just set it around. If you have. Yeah. But you can't you still can't work it out because you might take in more calories than you burn, and then that turns to fat. But you can't calculate   jumps out. Like, you can't calculate and go, oh, well, I definitely use this much to run my brain.  

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It's just not an anxiety. Some nerd has has figured it out, and it's probably   not 40 megawatts. No. I don't think it is. That's for fucking sure.   That's so that's where I would bring in the the spiritual side of things. Okay. Make make your own conclusions on on that. Not not everything could be broken down into science. Okay. Thank you to base load for another wonderful article and please visit ungovernable misfits.com   under writings to read the full details of that article. And while you're there, buy some art, hoodie, sweatshirt, check out all the offerings. Crown is coming out with a new design all the time, including the most recent one, which is Max, is that the rat poison one? It is the rat poison one. Do you like that one? I do like that one because of the 2 different color schemes that you can choose from.  

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I think you'd look really nice in the ecru and blue. I think it would really bring out your eyes. I think so. Yeah. Thank you. Don't you? Yeah. For those that don't know any context to the rat poison thing, would you illuminate them, please? You gotta go on the site and work it out. But what I will say is we have now added these extra sizes for the FFCs.   So   if you'd like   to order and you have a special requirement   for some industrial sizing, you can reach out to us, and we will  

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help. Help the FFCs   Yes. With industrial sizing. That was a nice way for you to say it. FFC wasn't nice, but industrial sizing was nice.  

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Asshole. Who was it you asked? They're like, is FFC for fat fucking   cunt? It's like, no. It's fat fat cunt. Just to emphasize the fatness.  

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Yeah. I was one word off. Yeah. Fat fat cunt.  

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We will do, I think now,   small, medium,   large,   extra large,   extra extra large, extra extra extra large, and extra extra extra extra large. I think that's as far as we go. Yeah. 4 XL. Yeah. I don't think 5 XL was in there. Why Oh, look. It's either 4 or   5 XL. But we can't keep them in stock because there just isn't room in the warehouse. But if you do need something of that size, you can reach out to us. We will have them printed, and we will have them sent out. But it will be to order,   and it will take a little bit longer. But we will cater to all, including you, John.  

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Not a fat fat cunt.   No. It's one one f for me.  

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One f for me.  

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Okay. We believe you. We had a bit of a misfortune   in the plebminer   mafia.   Yeah. Some of you may have heard about it because it was going around the internets and on the tweeters,   but I will give you the inside story.   Somebody got scammed on some mining equipment,   and it involved a few guys in the Pleb Miner mafia. None of them did anything wrong, so let me get that out of we didn't have a scammer come in the group exactly, but members of the group were affected   by a scam, and we're going to lay out the scam a bit, some of the details,   and, hopefully come up with some solutions to avoid being scammed in the future. The story is as such, and   just one of the people were very, very public about it, and that was hashing to heating, so I will mention his name. The other parties in the group were public, but not, like, overtly public beyond our our circle,   so I'm not going to mention their name. Got it? That's fair. Okay. Alright. So this involved hashing to heating. And what happened is   somebody initiated a conversation in Telegram with him in some of the mining groups and some of the other, like, home heating type groups and contacted him, and this person will be referred to now as TFF   FS,   not FFC.  

T f s, the fucking scammer. He might be fat though, probably. Probably. But if he wants,  

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any sort of   mud plumbing hoodie or anything like that, he can go fuck himself. He sure can. You dirty,   scamming,   cunt. I can't believe someone's come in and fucked with the mafia. I hope that somehow we find this bastard. Mhmm. Or bitch.  

[01:25:10] Unknown:

True. Make them pay. Yeah. That's kinda the wrong group of people to fuck with. Yeah. Somebody contacted   him about a 21 energy offering, and I've know about 21 energy from SolEx. I believe   that he's the one that told me about them because they're a company in the EU that you can get mining equipment off of and some of the home heating stuff.   Much like Altair's The Chimney, they do a thing like that, or Rick's Space Heater. They they have a thing like that. So somebody contacted Hashingka Heating and said, oh, I have some some deals on these pro model heaters.   We bought a bunch, and they're in the United States. So that that was a a sophisticated way of getting to hold hold of him. Everybody knows Hash Into Heating has a passion   for increasing Bitcoin mining by may making it available to somebody who wants to capture heat at a small scale, a large industrial scale. So they they got their hooks into them on that. He got excited. Oh, these heaters are pretty cool, and if I can somehow get these into hands the hands of people,   that would be a good thing. So they initially got him by saying they've got a bulk deal in the US on these   21 Energy home heater things. So Hash into Heating reposts that offer, and 21 Energy, like, liked it or retweeted it. So in his doofus brain, you know, this somehow   endorsed this deal. And now now he's like he's been pushed down the hill   and missed a ton of red flags on the way. Then they introduce miners into the deal, and they say, and we also have because inside these heating machines is pretty much, you know, just a miner with an enclosure around it and some other peripherals to control it. We have miners too. So now that they know they got their hooks in hashing to heating, they say, oh, well, he's a member of the community. He's a good guy. He's gonna get this stuff out there. Now   he reaches out to a few people and says, hey. You know, what do you think of this deal? He reaches out to me. So this is my my   screw up in this operation. He says, hey. I I got this thing going on. Would you mind if I post it in the Telegram group? Now people ask me this 20 freaking times a week. Can I do this in the Telegram? Can I do this in the Telegram group? And and I try to be laissez faire about everything.  

You know, libertarian principles, as long as you're not hurting anybody or being   disgusting or something in there, and you're not posting,   you know, feet pics or something in the group, go ahead. Hey. What's wrong with feet pics?  

[01:27:31] Unknown:

Apparently, I've chosen,  

[01:27:33] Unknown:

scam offers over feet pics. Mhmm. It's just hard to make these micro decisions   constantly. And I talked to SolEx about this, and he's like, but   how is any of this your fault? You had nothing to do with this. You can't control everything. You know, he's just so matter of fact about stuff sometimes. Nice, isn't it as well? Yeah.   So he talked me off the ledge. Like, I no longer feel guilty about it. I mean, I can't control everything in that group. It's supposed to be an association of guys, not some dictatorship where I fucking control everything in the group. So, anyways, that that was my portion into it. So I said, yeah. Go ahead and and post it in the group. He was assuming   that   the scammer was vetted by the community, or I assumed that. And I also assumed that Hashentah Heating had done his due diligence because he's never asked me anything like that. Can I post something? Never. Not in a 1000000 fucking years. So I assume this came directly from him. I haven't talked to him in a while. He's kinda been been off the map. I think he was taking care of his mom for a while. So I haven't seen him in a while. Can I post this? Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead and post it in the group. This is how they executed the scam. They come up, say they got these heater things.  

They only have 6 or 9 units or something like that, you know, the same amount as the heat heater things. Hashina Heating took this to other people too and and showed them the deal. And then one of these guys who I'm pretty sure I know who it is. He's like, there's a lot of red flags in there. I'd I'd wanna video chat. Well, one of the guys in the group had already taken   taken him up on this and started to pursue things.   So the guy that we know, this other person, we're gonna call him pleb number 1.   I'm struggling with this one here.  

Why?   Oh, to reveal to reveal stuff.   Okay. You know, like, to protect this person's,   anonymity. Okay. Long story short on them, they get interested in the deal, and there's, like, a three way conversation between   pleb number 1,   pleb number 2, which   pleb number 1 is gonna send these supposed machines to pleb number 2. So they all start talking with the scammer, but what the scammer does is does a divide and conquer type operation between all of them. Sneaky sneaky. I say something to the 3 of you, then I say, oh, I couldn't get a hold of Heating.   But, yeah, this deal, I'm gonna add a couple more machines.  

And and, yeah, I was saying 600, $700   per machine, but now I have a few more, and so I'm willing to drop price. And then the divide and conquer, plus instilling a sense of urgency,   is really what did the trick here. So pleb number 1 didn't   let everybody know what was going on or vet every step of the process   because he felt a sense of urgency, like this deal was going to go away. And then when they threw more machines on top, it was like, oh, oh, oh, okay. Yeah. Sure. Well, I'm just gonna go ahead and and send the funds now. And so that's how it happened. They didn't get on a video chat.   They didn't all talk about it. They didn't pull themselves out of it and say, let me show this deal to everyone else and see what they think. I'm telling you, if you had shown any of these details to the rest of the group, like, if they would have been like, hold up. Wait. That don't make any fucking sense.  

Don't do that. But they felt that sense of urgency. They got to tease people are very sophisticated in this. They are. And don't everybody think that you're so nuanced in this world where you can't be taken advantage of? Well, it's timing as well. You can't. These people do it every day. Sometimes we're functioning at our best, and sometimes we're not. And if someone who's sophisticated catches you at a time where you haven't fully got your guard up or you're onto other things and you're stressed and  

[01:31:07] Unknown:

you you're not giving it all your thought, then, yeah, like you say, anyone can get scammed. But it's just shit to see it happen in one of our groups.   And, yes, they're a sponsor, but this is why I would always say to people, go and speak to Altair. Don't fucking find some random cunt on Telegram and send them over Bitcoin   and just trust them because,   well, this sort of stuff does happen, and it might look like a good deal. But, usually, things are too good to be true, so just be careful out there. And at very least, just,   ask a few people in the group and just double check and triple check before parting with any sats. Don't ask me to verify deals, please. Don't send me Yeah. Don't ask me to verify deals, please. Me deals and sask if this is a deal, and I'm not going to answer you on that. Unless you ask me, hey,   I heard about these things called SATs. Should I buy them? I'll go, yep, every time. That's the only deal that I'll be verifying. No k y c? Yeah. But there are not there are enough other people in the group who would be happy to. And like I say, just   don't be in a panic and a rush, and don't make these sort of decisions lightly because it's just shit to see people be separated from their Bitcoin. Mhmm. Especially friends and people who are in our group. It's it's sad to see. So speak to people in the group or go to someone like Altair and protect yourself.  



[01:32:28] Unknown:

You know, who   called the scams increasing in a bull market is Alex, and hashing to heating had admitted so. Mhmm. Alex had sent out a tweet, like, a month or 2 ago saying, hey. Be aware. There are mining scams incoming. Pleb number 1 was gracious enough to let everyone know that this isn't to give his side of things, and I'm just going to read his statement. He said, for all in the PMM,   this one is on me for pursuing without my own due diligence. I hold the blame and do not want hashing to heating bare the cost of my misfortune. We all look out for each other in terms of deals. I got caught up in one that was too good to be true by pulling the trigger before I should have. I've been in the game long enough to know to look out for this, but here we are. Ashing de Heating has been 100% stand up with me in this, and I'd like to thank him for that. We are a community of misfits, and we all make mistakes like me. But what counts is when and if we are involved in it, we come together to try and make things right and by learning from each other, and I hope this post can serve to do so. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.   That regularly scheduled programming   is the ad read for the Lake Satoshi   Bitcoin Beach Retreat, which occurs on the weekend of August 10th. This summer, tickets are $21.  

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[01:34:08] Unknown:

Very much looking forward to this event. And if you do go, which you should do, if you're gonna go anywhere this year, don't go to a wanky conference. Go to somewhere real with real people. And if you do go and you're watching basketball,   make sure to   get in Baseload's way. Really psych him out. Really fuck with his head because I've got money on the line. It's not gonna work. 221 flats are mine.   It looks good  

[01:34:36] Unknown:

every day. This has been an an extra long episode of Ungovernal Misfits action news. It has. But I hope we provided you great content and quality. Me too. Thanks for tuning in, and we will catch you on the next one, fuckers.