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• Statistics: Global Hash Rate, Hash Value, Hash Price
• The Altair Update: Bitdeer, Core Scientific, Avaron
• BOOSTS

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• The A/C Miner
• The Dryer Miner
• evaporative Cooling Procedures
• Lake Satoshi Talk
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Hit record. What do we got to lose but an hour, hour and a half of our time?   And waste everyone else's time. It's just our lives. Yeah.   Doesn't really matter much.   Well, hey, everybody. This is Ungovernal Misfits action news,   and, we're happy to bring it to you. It's gonna be a short one, so don't expect much, but it is packed with a punch. Mhmm. Big punch. Crazy Carl's Gooner. Oh, I can't wait. We'll be capturing cool with Crazy Carl of Krazy Karl's Gooner.  

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Like how you've put all of those with capital k's. Sure. I have. Capturing with a k, cool with a k, crazy with a k, Karl with a k, corner with a k. It's nice. I appreciated that. Yeah. Alliteration.  

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And then we'll have some statistics. Well, we'll have statistics first actually. Mhmm. And, altertech.io   has a little bit of an update for us. That's a wealth of information. You ask him with ample time, hey, what's going on? Boom. That guy just starts typing.   So I'll pretty much read what he typed out. Sure. I changed a little bit to make it sound cooler, put my little cool spin. Mhmm. But it's pretty much just, Altertech's   update.   And beyond that, we don't have anything else. So it's gonna be a quick one. Let's get down to it.  

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If you think the last difficulty adjustment was hard, check out the Hashlutz   Rockin' Bonds.   And speaking of difficulty adjustment,   it's not the only thing that'll be going up.  

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racks. We'll keep you running at peak efficiency   all night.  

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Hashtag   check-in the love. Whoo. Whoo.  

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Because   I take it to party. Blocks don't stop.  

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Yeah. Delete.   I think I think Tammy and Debbie did say party at one time in there. That was that was requested by me.   Party.  

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There's a party in my pants and you're invited.  

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Sarah will do that all the time. Like, if we're somewhere and there's a, like, a bachelorette   or a hen do as you like to say. You know, she's like,  

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woo party.   Woo.  

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She's an asshole.   She's fun to hang out with though. She's just like you. Oh, yeah. We're best friends. This is something I could say about my wife. We were in bed last night just in tears, LOL, and for some, like, skit that we made up that we were acting out.   I mean, she really is. She's she's my best friend. I love that girl. That's nice. It is. That's nice. That's so rare. Is it? To have someone who's been yeah. Yeah. It's so, like, honestly, it is I feel bad. I feel bad for y'all motherfuckers.  

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I'm not saying  

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we don't have that. No. No. You I'm just saying you have that. I know that you do. I'm just saying. But I'm just saying  

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it's rare. Like, I'd say the average person that I speak to, like, has a bit of a whinge or they're not really that affectionate or happy or whatever.   Whereas, like, for all the years I've known you,   you speak so highly.   There's never ever ever a whinge. There's never a moan. It's just like, this is my best friend. I love her more than anything else. That's, like, really rare. It's fucking cool. Especially when people have had kids, because kids are   fucking little assholes, aren't they really? They make it they make things really hard. And if you can get through and still feel the same way with kids, it's pretty amazing.  

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You know what really brings you together is mutual resentment of your kids.   Oh, yeah. That's nice. Or you know, like, it's us against them. You gotta have a teammate. Yeah. That's real bonding, isn't it? It is. Yeah. It it really brings you closer together.   People understand about this particular show, Action News. We've got   mining sponsors like Linkcoin and Load and altairtech.io,   and we talk about Bitcoin mining. But listen, if you wanna do a monthly show purely about Bitcoin mining, it's gonna get boring. So we'll often meander into these topics.   And I don't mind meandering into this. This is a PMM type subject. But this meme, like, this you you're talking about all these guys that whinge and bitch about their wives.  

It's almost they feel it's a way to fit in with other guys. Yeah. I hate that. You know, the whole locker room. Well, my my old lady, the bone chain, man. She really been getting on me.   Then they get home and they're,  

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oh, sweet lovey dovey.  

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Little puppy dogs. Yeah. It fucking winds me up. I I hate that where it's like, are you gonna buy this thing or not? I'm gonna speak to the old ball of chain fucking you're like,   Sorry. What is that, between your legs? Have you got any fucking bollocks? So what are you doing? And don't make like a whole song and dance about it. That whinging,   moaning   about your wife.   You can say it jokingly, but where people actually whinge or about their husbands. I'm like, even if you think that, don't bring that into the world because then people have a negative view of your partner. You've already, like Yeah. You've, like, tarnished their reputation when someone might not have even met them. Well, I'm ready to meet this bitch.   Yeah. Exactly. It's like, at some point, you're probably gonna then meet that person, and then you have these assumptions about that person, which are probably not true. It's just some Mhmm. Fucking   div just saying stuff to try and fit in.  

And then it makes a worse relationship for, like, the couple's meeting and stuff like that. Yep.   I really don't like it. If you've got a problem with your missus or with someone, just, like, tell them to their face. Like, you're a bit of a cunt today. I'm just letting you know. You just have to tell   them not not to other people. Hey, guys. It's not cool to diss your old lady. Good doing it. Not. Yeah. You're not you're not tough.   No. You're not tough. Out of here. Respect a woman. Damn it. Yeah. Exactly. And and to the ladies, to all our two lady listeners, it's not cool to, disrespect your husband either, unless he is a right cunt. But like most most husbands are out there, like, working hard and just trying to pay the bills and do their thing and   put up shelves and fix things and protect the family and   wake up through the night when they hear noises with a baseball bat and roam around and all that stuff that you just, you know, you don't know what goes into it. There's a lot of thought, a lot of effort.  



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Good women whose minds haven't been poisoned by the psyop that is, the women's liberation movement to enslave them to the man and pay more taxes.   Mhmm. They know. They recognize.  

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Yeah.   Good.   Well, I'm glad we have that settled. Love your wives and husbands.   Yeah. Be good. And love us and send us some boosts, which we'll get into in a second.  

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We got boosts. You're first to read. And just to let you know, within these boosts, another   female misfit reveals herself.  

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Oh,  

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does she now? Mhmm. She sure does. There's somebody in here that I had no idea was a female.   Okay.  

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Let's have a look. Boosts.   Huge   jizzy loads   with 35 is this the female?   Huge jizzy loads? Huge jizzy loads.   I don't know.   Don't know. This isn't the one you're talking about. No. It isn't. Okay.   Well, huge jizzy loads says, going up.   How about going down?   Party, party, party, emoji   with 35,000   sats attached to it. That's a lot. Thanks, Hugh. No. It's not Hugh. It's Hugh. It's huge. Huge, jizzy loads. Oh, I thought it was like, you know, like a play. Hugh Hugh jizzy loads.   No. Huge jizzy loads. I think it's possibly Kerim   because he was talking about if you have ZMA,   one of the benefits other than sleep is that you get huge jizzy loads. He was talking to me about that this morning.  



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Before he ZMA. Yes. He was. Yeah. I don't even I forget the context.  

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He's got, like, a load of shares in his MMA production or something like that because he Right. Yeah. He loves it. He's selling me on it. Hey, man. Yeah. Use my ZMA dealer.   How's your loads?  

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Not huge enough. They can be bigger.  

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I don't know if it's Cam. It wasn't me. Or it could just be a listener who, thought that was funny. Who knows? Anyway, shout out to you, and thank you for the 35,000   sats.   Bugle News, hashtag forty hours per week with a little headphone emoji.   21,212   sats.   Great show as always.   Thank you, Bugle News.   Yeah. Thanks, Bugle Boys. Thank you for the very generous 21,212  

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sats. Intellectual Silk Road.  

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We're part of it.  

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We are.   Yeah. We're pioneers on that road.  

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Oh, yeah.   Rod Palmer from the Bugle News,   hashtag forty hours per week, little headphones. Can I just say, I think I came up with that? I've done very little in my career as a professional podcaster   Okay. And influencer,   but I think I came up with that. You think you came up with forty hours per week? Yeah. I think I did. Wow.   I think we were back and forth with some just chatting shit, and it was, like, miles per hour and kilometers per hour, and I I put, like, 40 HPW.   Okay. I think so. I don't know. They can correct me on that, but They could, and they will.   Yeah. I don't wanna take any glory, but I also just, like, wanna give myself a pat on the back if it's You know, Max bit by bit, the self proclaimed inventor of forty hours per week. It's a salacious beauty news story coming your way, buddy. I want that on my tombstone. Okay. We'll do it. You know when you have very few achievements, you just you feel like you wanna clutch at one, something like that? Yeah.  

So   anyway  

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I was just gonna have you chucked into the ocean. Okay. I can deal with that. Real burial. Yeah.  

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Do you know what I like? What do you want? Is when I don't know. Is it vikings that do this?   You go in a boat,   and then they put, like, a little petrol, whatever, like, flammable liquids. This is a viking funeral. Yeah.   And then they push you out on the boat,   and then someone with a bow and arrow,   which has been lit,   shoots that, and then it lands in the boat, and then that catches fire, and then that burns, and then you go to the bottom of the lake or ocean. Yeah. That's the one. I also want that. You can verify this with Sarah that I have requested a Viking funeral to her. Really? Number one,  

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I don't want some weirdo   pervert corner or some weirdo   pervert funeral director   draining my blood and putting makeup on me and do it. Get the fuck off of my dead body. Just chuck me in a fire.   Get rid of all this faggy demonic bullshit that you touch in dead bodies and dolling them up, you fucking freak. It's weird, isn't it? Can we just burn our damn bodies? You you little weirdos. It's creepy. It is creepy. When did we start doing that as a civilization?   Embalming   people like we're all fucking pharaohs.  

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Get out of here. It's really what yeah. That's really that's true. I bet you though. I bet you can't even do it. It's against the law. If Sarah's like, here's John. I've got this boat. We've made it over the last couple of years out of wood, and now just take him to the ocean. I'm just gonna set him on fire. We've hired an archer   just because we wanna get it right.   There's a load of diesel in there and petrol in there. It's gonna fucking blow the cunt up.   I guarantee you, she'll be, like, arrested and Absolutely.   Taken away. Yeah. Yeah.  



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They'd be trying to put a mask on the dead body.  

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Ugh. What's gone wrong in society where you can't just burn people? You gotta ask yourself that. I don't know, man. I don't know.  

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Make burning bodies great again. We should do that. And you don't wanna go to a crematory either because they, like, mix up all the ashes and just give you, like, hey. We burnt 20 bodies today.   Your dad's in there. Somewhere.  

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Yeah. I don't like that. How do you get around that? There must be like, you can go to Switzerland. I think Ozzy Osbourne's just gone off to Switzerland to be, euthanized.   What? Is this for real? Well, my missus was telling me yesterday. He was saying that   Sharon   and Ozzy   had made a pact,   like, thirty years ago that, like, if they get past it and one's about to die,   that they'll kill themselves together because they never wanna be apart.   And he's, like, fucked. Like, really fucked. Oops. Sorry, Ozzy. I changed my mind.  

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Yeah. I think she might. Saren, aren't you going next? Aren't you going next, love?  

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I didn't  

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got a dumb about Oh, sorry, Ozzy.  

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I've got something else to do.  

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They both look fucked at this point. Oh, boy. Cruel world.   Oh, they do. Yeah. But, apparently, yeah, he's gone off there or they've gone off there to end things, which is sad. Like, I like Ozzy. He was he was pretty cool.   What was my point here? I don't fucking know. There is a point. I'm telling you there's a point. You can fly off   to Switzerland to end your life because you can't do it in your freedom loving country.  

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No. Because it's sick and demonic. Get the fuck out of here. Must you must die an honorable death. What I'm saying is maybe there's a place  

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where you could go where you could do a Viking funeral.  

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What I think do believe they have assisted suicide also in,   The Netherlands.  

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Probably. Yeah. I don't want that. I just wanna die and then be burnt like a Viking. But what I'm saying is there must be somewhere where you could do that. Let's see what Denmark and Norway have.   They're proper socialist. They're and they're, like, proper weird. You're not gonna be allowed to do stuff like that. I don't know. Look it up. Let us know in the boosts. Yeah. Let us know. Anyway,   Bugan Yu says, great show as always. Rod Palmer says,   stoked for Lake Satoshi.   Me too, buddy. Who isn't? And warm orange tart.   She's back. We hold on. Yeah. We haven't heard from this   young lady for a hot minute. It's been a while. Do you like how American that was? It was real. Yeah. Super. I say hot minute all the time. I know. Yeah. We haven't heard from her for a hot minute. Warm orange tarp sent 21,000   sats. Thank you, warm orange tarp.  

Thanks. Yeah, girl. Hey there, fellas. Remember me? How could we forget?   Mhmm. I've certainly not forgotten you.   Little, like, blushing Mhmm. Face, whatever that is. Hee hee. Yeah. Hee hee blush. Like a little Japanese thing would do. Yeah. Mhmm. Yata.  

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Oh, you're so handsome.  

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No matter   where I journey, you're with me. I just had to send a boost when I heard the APB   for your female audience to show up.   Kissy emoji. I always l m f a o,   just like Chet   while listening.   Even if you do say piss,   cunt, shit, and fuck   constantly.   Yeah. There's also the ever present discussion   of   disgusting things such   as shitting your fucking brains out. Mhmm. Max's nasty ass proper British foods,   not to mention an entire episode of PMM on raw milk. Keep the good times rolling, boys. Till next time, beers.   That's so sweet.  

I like how she's l m f a o ing just like Chet as well. Yeah.  

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They're good buddies.   Yeah?  

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Yeah. Always yucking it up, those two. That's nice.  

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Speaking of Chet, he says, as always, great show, homies.   I'll always be a fucking pioneer pleb. Ain't that the truth, brother? It is the truth.   Another Lake Satoshi alum. See you soon, my friend.   Pleb to Polymath.   Another Lake Satoshi alum.   Join the journey from pleb to Polymath. Learn stuff, build stuff, bring other common folks to the knowledge. I don't think my name will change to pioneer to polymath, but I agree with the sentiment.   It's important to move on from commoner plebeian   to a person who uses their know how to make their lives and the ones around them's   lives   better. Well said, my friend. Very well said.  

Yeah. Another well sayer,   late stage huddle. Let me try to rearrange these because fountain will do them by boost amount   as opposed to chronological order.  

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Can you not change that?  

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I could,   but I didn't.   So   roll with it. I am.   Matt and Daryl,   We've now changed your name to Matt if you remember.   My favorite podcasters.   I really should have hired Travis Bittkel to help plumb my pool heater. Yeah. You should have.   Professional pipe fitter. Yeah. You might wanna call professionals.   Maybe I could have saved a few Asics and a few thousand cock bucks. I just realized   Travis,   his name is Travis   Bitcol.   Clever. He is clever. You're right. On so many different levels.   Remote automated drones activating when people are nearby. Great. There is a Black Mirror episode about this. It's terrifying. Metalhead Black Mirror season four episode five.   Oh, alright. I I guess there's no new ideas coming out of this freaking podcast.  



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Black Mirror's got it taken care of. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you have not watched Black Mirror.   No.   Any of them? Not one?   I did watch one.   Oh,   which one did you watch? Do you remember? First season when it first came out. Okay. I think that robot one was the first season.  

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No. He told us. It's season four episode five.  

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Oh, okay.   And did you see this one? Yeah. I've seen most of the Black Mirrors. I think the first couple of seasons were really good, and then it just got, like, shitter and shitter. Like, the more recent ones that I've just watched don't feel like they're even I don't know if they are or not, but they don't feel like they're even   written or directed or produced by anyone who was related to the people previously. Like, it's just a totally, totally different vibe. They're not good. I get it. Andy would watch the whole thing, and he'd come in and be like, oh, did you see this Black Mirror episode?  

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I was like, no. Well, just give me the plot. And then he'd tell me the plot translated into dumb redneck hillbilly.   For you.   Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right.   If you knew how dyslexic that guy, like he's a mechanical genius, then can't write a sentence. And, I'd just be like, I don't know. The world's so dystopian anyhow. I know what you mean. Like, I don't think the Black Mirror really is predicting anything. I I think it's just, pointing out things that have already happened. Yeah. I know what you mean. Some of them were just, like, they were quite well done. I quite like, I don't ever get time to do it anymore, but I used to, like, when I'd finished everything, if I wasn't painting,  

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spark up a joint and sit for, like, an hour to an hour and a half, either a film or something where my mind would just be completely   yeah. I like it. Like, I'm not a reader because I'm too fucking dyslexic. You don't say. I like music, but Wait a minute. Why are my two work partners dyslexic?   Maybe it's like a balance. Like, you're quite good at reading and writing and research and that kind of stuff.  

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So God   you people in my path? I would say  

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maybe. And then you've got someone who can research and write and read and do all this kind of stuff. And then you get put near   real doers, like people who are really gifted   mechanically   or physically Oh.   In many other ways. And God says, look. You guys together   will be an unstoppable force. Do you see what I mean? Oh, I see.  

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I understand that. Yeah. The Pied Piper of dyslexic retards.  

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That's me. Follow me.   Come, fellow retards.   There's a rat scurrying behind you.   Yeah. Pretty much. Alright. Let's move on here. Okay. I'm sorry. Man. It's because you said it was gonna be a short show, so I'm I'm talking shit. I can't help. I was like, fuck. I can actually talk shit now.   Be quiet. Go on. Sorry.  

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Follow-up boost. Since last time I used Derry   to refer to John, there was some confusion.   In Letter Kenny there was a character named Daryl   that they call Derry.   And a while back John said something about his parents almost naming him Daryl. I did do that, I think we had a section you were gonna be Teddy. Your parents were gonna be Teddy. Yeah.   And then my parents were named Daryl. So there was something a few  

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episodes back about Daryl and Teddy. We were gonna have a train set that we'd play together or something. Yeah.   That's cute.  

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And a while back, John said something about his parents almost naming him Daryl. Hell, now I can't remember, but, yeah, that's the over explanation, and here's some more sats cons.   Thank you. Hey. When you boost as much as late stage HODL, you can say whatever you want to. Yeah. Of course, you can. You can say whatever you want anyway.   When you're a a baller booster of his level,   we could do a whole episode. Read whatever that he wants. Absolutely. Oh, great. That's now he's gonna do it.   Read the Gettysburg Address.   Okay. Next is Snick.  

Guys, you are exactly the right amount of fucked up. Please never change.   You bet. Thanks, man. You never change either, Snick. Yeah. Jason c, who I heard is a ripper on the drums. Oh.   Well, this is what I understand. He was up at the pub key with the bass load and with the fundamentals   and bass loads dad   and ripping on some drums   like he's truly gifted or something. Nice.   Yeah.   I respect drum players because I I can't even play drums. Maybe like a little four beat. That's it. Mhmm. No fills. Nothing else. It's like playing piano. I can't separate these two hands.  

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Yeah. It's actually that. Can you play piano?   Can I fuck? I don't even know what a beat is. I genuinely can't heard.   I can't pick out rhythm or, like, a beat or anything at all. I'm very musically   ungifted.  

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Oh, well, good thing you married somebody who's musically gifted. Yeah. She's, like,  

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extremely combined. You're alright. Extreme. Luckily, the kids are. Oh, good. Yeah. When we're out and about and there's music on, they're, like, already grooving and dancing and just, like, doing their own thing. If they're, like, on my lap or something, I'm too scared to try and do anything because I'm like, I'm gonna fuck their rhythm up. I need to leave them to do their thing. Mhmm. I don't wanna get involved here. You just deal with mum. You don't wanna bounce them to the rhythm. Yeah. Because my rhythm is not the rhythm. It's like my own thing, which is totally fucking different to what everyone else experiences.   So I just, like, stay still. You kids do your thing. I don't wanna ruin it. I bet you're fun to go dancing with. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah.  



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Yeah. Just gyrate.   Oh god. I can play bass. I grew up playing bass. I was in the Florida Youth Symphony. I could have gone to college   for for orchestra and, played bass in bands and sang in bands and such, but drums, that's not me. It's tough. That's a special talent. Yeah. It is. You got it or you don't. Mhmm.   I was in a band one time   where,   our lead guitarist   was playing guitar and we had a drummer. Drummer got   stationed somewhere else, so we had to find a drummer and we couldn't find a drummer and he's like, alright, we're gonna take a break for a couple months and I'm gonna learn how to play drums.   Yeah. And so we reconvened a couple months later and the guy was a great drum player. What, in a couple of months? In a couple of months, yeah. What the fuck?  

Guy's name is Craig. He was sharp, man. Gifted. Mhmm.  

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Have you seen the film called Whiplash?   No.   Okay. If you like drums, it's worth watching. And if anyone else listening likes drums, it's really worth watching. It's very good. It's about a drummer. It's about abusive   drum teacher   teaching a very gifted   drummer. Yeah. It's it's pretty amazing.  

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The abusive   drum teacher's name   was Jason c.   And he says, I got 21 projects, but a bit ax ain't one. LOL.   Glad this rip didn't include any mentions of marigolds.   Don't worry. On the next PMM, we mention marigolds. Yeah. That's true. Your second chat with Travis was a school session.   Been thinking about residential hot water for a few months, so the info related to hydro units and new what's minor and boiler style indirect water heating was new to me. I'm a pretty seasoned, albeit   white collar mechanical   engineer.  

Cheers.   I think you can do it, Jason c. You can do anything. Yeah. Definitely. Anything you put your mind to. You sure can.   Hey. I heard in the last recording that will release soon that Chill Now one does have some backup music that was spliced in there. Did you hear that? Nope. Did you hear Karim's sweet edit? Well, he put some background music in there I did not. As I requested. Very nice. I requested something, and then he did it. Excellent.   Yeah. See how that works?  

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No.  

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Jill now one says   system dot warning, action news 16.   Error, bad environment.   Hashtag hash slots gentlemen's club detected.   Error sharing violation.   Debbie and Timmy are twins.   Filthy comedy with ever shrinking statistics.   Always better when it's a bit fucked up.   Two cons:   Disruptor tools engaged.   Separating   the human from the character.   Error sharing, pause. Consent deny.   Matt   screams to use the code. Error, special users. Plates, can't be fucked.   Seriously, the ungovernable   are   ardent currents of a subjective consciousness.   Thoughts born from resistance.  

Restoring the ways of self   error infiltrated   error return   misfit   and there's a picture of Patrick Bateman carrying a dead body in a body bag that says, we are the sons of the retards   you couldn't lobotomize.  

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Very nice. Jill Now One has really brought something to this show. Yeah. It's almost like its own little section, isn't it? It is. Yeah. I guess now it has its own music.  

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It does. It is a section. Yeah. Okay. It's official. You did it. You made it into section territory. You perform like that. You're a co host.  

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Yep. Congrats. What a thing to win. You're a co host on the most retarded show on the Internet. Yeah. That's earned. Well done. What do you what else do you get? That's it. That's your price.  

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Our praise should be enough. Yeah.   We have more boosts. They're in blue because any other color triggers you, and blue calms you down. It does.  

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Thank you. I appreciate   you. Ravenstokes.   Statistics.   Thumbs up. Baked potato   sends a thousand sats with no message.   Turkey   with a fountain link,   which I don't know what it goes to. Not the episode, I think. Pies.  

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Hey.  

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Become ungovernable,   motherfucker.   Salute.  

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Strong-arm,   mushroom. Thanks, buddy. Plunger.  

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Great episode. I love what the guest talks about on hydro mining.   Me too. Plunger's new, aren't they? I've not heard from Plunger. Plunger is new. Yeah. Mhmm. Welcome, Plunger.   Wartime,   the right amount of fucked up. Laughing face, laughing face, laughing face. Dynamite, dynamite, dynamite.   Thank you, Wartime.  

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Mhmm.  

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A I b l e, 200¢.   Damn it. Damn it. What? You didn't want me to say 200¢, did you? Supposed to read 200¢. Yeah. Yeah. You were June in that or June 23.  

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God fucking Ron Burgundy.  

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Yeah. You put it in front of me. I'm gonna read it, mate. A I b l e boosted   200 sats  

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on June 23 because you left that I don't wanna do this show with you anymore. You put in the date  

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and the sats. So on June 23, AIBLE   boosted 200   sats. Thank you very much, AIBLE, for your 200 SATs that you boosted on June 23. And he says me.   He says   bought five bit axes,   fried one with a bad power supply, two others just won't hash no matter how many times I flash them slash update them. Two are still going   at a total loss,   how to fix them. The s nine,   conversely,   is like the a k 47   of mining.   You can crawl through the mud with it, change your waist while you do pull ups, use it to flutter the well read creased pages of my bible,   easy to   disassemble   and clean and always works.  

The s 19   low key and s 19 variants,   super stable and reliable,   Never   made a sat lotto mining, but I'll say this.   Without the Bitax, I never would have got into being a real pleb miner.   That was the gateway that took me into the ecosystem.   After that, the ASIC instructions   before leaving Earth on this show took me the rest of the way.   Thank you, gentlemen. Great interview and discussion.   That's a great boost.  

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That was a great but he always does a great He was  

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back. He does. But,   I think that's a good message. It's like, look, bit axis are shit, and we like to shit on them. But it has brought him to the s nines and the s nineteens and everything else. And he said it himself. He wouldn't have done it otherwise. So   there is value  

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in these things. They may suck and they're silly, but he didn't forget the girl that brought him to the dance. Exactly.  

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Oh, that's nice. That's nice. If someone did wanna dip their toe in and they wanna do it in a retarded way, where you will almost certainly lose money and it will probably break,   but you would actually get some help if it does break. Where would they go?  

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Well, they would go to alter tech.i0   and use promo code.  

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Uncuffcuff.   And once you've broken your bit tax and you've had help from someone probably quite annoying, but they will fix it, and you want to move up in the world and stop being pond scum and be a beautiful coy carp, then you can buy s nineteens   or s 20 ones  

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or whatever else you want from those same wonderful people. They'll look after after you. They'll help you move up in the world. Or you can buy our featured miner of the month, the Seal Miner a two, which I think is a really good deal   at $36.69,   I believe. It's later on in the show notes. But if you like, I think this is a fantastic place to do the altertech.i0   update. Let's switch the show around. Yeah. Let's do it.  

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All to update.  

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All to update. I wish it's a TikTok next block. See if we can rerecord that somehow. I wanted to say   TikTok next block. Altair update. I'd have to figure that out somehow. We could get it done. I'm sure.   We could. Let's get it done. Hey. Got an announcement from Altair.  

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I can't do it anymore.   Oh, I'm sorry. I can't do it anymore.   I can't do it. Freaking BitX losers calling me all the time and asking me how to point to a pool. I can do it.  

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He doesn't wanna do it anymore.   Bless his little hooves. And Barn is stepping back from day to day   customer support   this summer to focus on,   jerky. Yeah. Yeah. To focus on jerky. He did it. You know, he's he's like, one of these, like, high power   consultant type people. Mhmm. You know? I don't think he's ever mentioned his former Fiat job, so I won't mention it. I know what it is. I think most of his friends know what it is because he used to bitch about it all the time. But that's not fair. I've never heard him bitch. Oh, I have.   No. A lot. About his former job? He's one of the most upbeat  

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and happy chappies I've ever come across.   God. I've never heard him wind or moan or bleat   about anything.  

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I don't wanna do that. I'm be eating all   no more.  

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Oh, well, that's sad.  

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But in his former gig, he would, like, just do freelance   of that type of work. You know, pick up as much as I want, do it, do something else. He's like a free spirit. You know what I mean? Totally, man. Florida man. Free spirit. Do you wanna want to, bro?   So he comes in Altair and really helps Altair set up this customer service window Mhmm. You know, where you can do the chat. It wasn't as advanced before. Altair had the idea, brings in Barn,   who's very good at that kind of stuff, a very organized type person, laid down the foundation for this customer support stuff, did it for a long time. You know? Avril made the great point to me that this is like the customer support for them is almost like an on call position. You don't have that level of service with it. Here's Karim texting the shit out of me. Oh, fucking See where this is going.  

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What's this guy want?  

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I'll read it later. Back to the altertech.io.   Ad read and update from him. So this is a serious   sync of time, and I don't think anybody else is gonna offer you this kind of service on Bitcoin mining. There's no I think nobody else is doing this kind of stuff. Mhmm. Fielding   dumb fucking questions   that are in the FAQ section Mhmm. Of altairtech.i0   personally answering your questions on how to point a bid ax to a pool. Yeah. First of all, dumb fuck. Don't pool mine with these stupid things. Do some kind of solo mining pool thing. Node runners pool, Kano, CK pool. You know, I think brains as a solo.   Just do the lottery mining thing with this. God. It's just math, everybody.  



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It makes sense to do it that way. I can get on board with that because it is like a lottery ticket. And it's like Yeah. I'm buying this thing. I don't have to go to the   fucking corner shop every week to buy my little lotto thing and do the scratch thing or whatever. Yeah. It's a lot cheaper. I just know I'm gonna burn this much electricity.   This thing's gonna last a year or two maybe or something if you're lucky. I don't think so. And then it sort of all evens out because your odds are Here's mine from Christmas. The one Baron sent me broken. I'm not messing with it.   You get my point. I do. It's quite a fun I had the plan with mine to put them on the wall and have like a little board, like a mood board. Like if we win, if we hit a block, then we're gonna do like a trip around the world. I wanted to have the pictures of the places that we wanted to go   and have, like, this thing. That's fun. Anyway, I had that idea, ran out of time, ended up moving around the world, gave the bit access to Ben Gunn. He's plugged them in, and they're now doing their thing. And if they win, the money goes to hashtag free samurai. But the idea was quite a nice one. And I think as a family,   if you have something like that on the wall and you see the things going and the kids can learn, oh, woah. If if we hit this block and you've got these are the odds and, you know, blah blah blah, and this is what we're gonna do. It's just fun. It's more fun than the lottery and your odds are better. So for that specific   idea, I think they're cool. But for everything else, I think they go. Okay. Alright?  



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I really can't stand that this show somehow gets pulled back into that. What great marketing they do.   I know. Getting on my nerves and forcing me to, like, reverse market for them. I know. Well, I'm not I'm I'm marketing for altairtech.io.   If you want to do this stuff as an art project for a lottery mining, you know, like you are gay. There's nothing wrong with there's nothing wrong with it. We're just saying if you are,  

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then go and buy your stuff from Altair.  

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Nothing wrong with it. I like Hakaidam stuff. Mhmm. He and Crown are are buddies and Node Runner guy. Yeah. Good call. His art stuff is super cool. He does   just beautiful artwork with all kinds of things, with his three d printer and lasering coins and belt buckles I saw the other day. Yeah. Like, I love his stuff. He's an artist like you guys are. Incorporates bit access into his art. Yeah. That's cool. Mhmm. Love that. There's a guy named Bee Evolved. I was gonna say, a bee herder   as if that's your location.  

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Ah,   I like that.   A bee herder.   That's actually so much better. I think that should be changed. That's better than beekeeper. Yes. A bee herder. Guess what? Bee Evolved, you're now a bee herder. That's great. The Bee Evolved is clearly a great engineer as well  

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and does cool stuff with this platform.   God bless you. That's super neat. You know who I've been talking about all of these months. It's the virtue signaling   dorks that think they're changing the world with this. That's the part that fucking gets on my nerves. Yeah. Any kind of innovation with this or an art prep, of course, I love that stuff.   Of course, I do. You've got a vision board of what you want to do if you ever win the lottery. That's really cool. Go for that kind of stuff. Of course, I support you and love you and wanna give you hugs and kisses. But your virtue signaling to me with an insignificant amount of hash rate, get the fuck out of here.   Yeah. If it's gonna be an art project   or a tinker project, then call it so. But don't act like you're changing the world with it. That because that's disingenuous,  

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and nothing rubs us the wrong way more than someone who's disingenuous.  

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Don't pretend that you're doing something special and get all on your high horse. Just say, yeah, it's cool. I'm just playing around. It's fun. And then we'll go, fair play. We like that. Very well. Yep. Have at it. Who Who else is having at it is now Chris. So Chris from alter tech dot I o. That's Chris at k r I s, alter tech.   That is his Twitter handle.   He is now handling day to day   operations of the Barminer built the foundation of this customer support network. He's done a couple breakdowns. I think he did Avaron Nano three. Oh.   Unboxing a video. And he used an AI voice, and I put on there. He didn't respond. Listen to the show, Chris. I'll do these voiceovers for you for free. Yeah. I saw this. Don't use an AI voice. It's terrible. People turned it off right away. First,  

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unbox your Avalon Nano three, then  

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plug it in. Yeah. Or if you are gonna do AI, if for some reason you have a grudge against John, and I I would understand that, then come to me and I will sort you out with a proper AI voice because I've got quite good at cloning them. You have. Yeah. And that your sound good. I know you put a lot of work into that and money. Would you know that's AI?   Yeah. You would? I would. Does that not sound like McAfee? I heard that. Yeah. You did good. I did spend, like, a whole day cloning   and feeding I totally believe. And trying to get it to work and all the rest of it because I'm cool like that.  

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So I can record this in two minutes. Yeah. I think you should go with John as an option. I'm just For him doing an an Avalon Nano three unboxing video. Yeah. I'd I would just read that and spend a minute editing it. I'm just saying if they, for some reason, had a grudge against you and it would be understandable,   then, you know, I'm also happy to help you. So that'd be Well, Chris, I hope you don't have a grudge against me. Who was? Because I'm tell I'm telling our audience a bit about you. Chris is based in Northern Michigan, all these Michigan people that we're surrounded by. He was hired to assume customer support duties from   Kevin   and has taken additional tasks previously managed by the burn ensuring operational continuity. He started   Bitcoin stuff in 2018   when his business adopted Bitcoin for payments during a card processor outage.  

Okay. This guy's a circular economy guy   to start with.   It's a big deal. This ain't no geek off the street. He's handy with a steal, if you know what I mean. I know what you mean. Yeah. Good. He used to be a GPU miner and then is an ASIC miner and built a dedicated outbuilding to scale his mining capacity and has helped to build small to medium sized mining farms near Detroit, Michigan, Detroit,   Rock City, and has now assisted numerous small scale miners with their setup. So the guy knows what he's doing. Altertech Avril, he's not bringing on some dipshit   foreigner Mhmm. Who doesn't even speak English or programming some bot to respond to you. These are real people.  

And I do believe that he had offered, like, fifteen minute   consultation sessions for free Oh.   To people wanting to scale up their mining operations. That's a big deal. That is a big deal. Yeah. Time's money, baby. Time is money. On to alter tech dot I o's update.   Guy really likes the BitDeer a two.   He said that's starting to gain some market of dominance and competing against Bitmain.   Oh.   BitDeer a two, which we covered in great detail when it came out. It accounts for 30%   now of Altair's large scale miner sales. That's incredible.  

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That is incredible, especially as I couldn't even fucking point to one. I have no idea what one looks like or anything about one. Well, it just looks like the typical form factor double stack  

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miner. Okay. That's what it looks like. Okay. It's got a seal on the side of it that's distinguishing.   Oh, that's nice. Little artistic flare.   It outperforms most everybody else except for the, Bitmain s 21 XP.   But that Bitmain s 21 XP is $6,379   at altertech.io.   Use promo code ungovernable, and you can save $63   on that. But   that's really expensive compared to 226   Terahash   for the bit dear a two at $36.69.  

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I almost have. And what's the reliability like on these things?  

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The same as everything else. Who the fuck knows? Shitty.   Yeah. Well, you know, shitty, not shitty. I'd I'd a a good friend of the show had just sent me a bunch of miners that he stopped hosting, and there were three of them. And one of them was a a t nineteen eighty four Terahash. It fired right up.   That machine's gotta be four years old. It fired up no problem whatsoever.   Okay. You know, and that's supposed to be a a shittier   machine. You you just don't know. You don't know what the hell you get. One series that oh, I heard the XP suck. Oh, these these ones are really good.   The pros suck. The k pros suck. Well, the first k pros you got were good, but then the production line changed. And three months after that, k pros, everything sucks. Who the fuck knows? I do remember. What was it? Was it the s 17?  



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Oh, sure. Yeah. '17, the heat sinks would fall off. Yeah. Because I remember that. I remember that was the first miners I ever bought. Mhmm. Like, before we did the shows and before this is, like, a long time ago.   Yeah. I remember, like, buying them, and then all I could hear from everyone was like, oh, that's the worst miner ever built. I was like, yes. That lines up. That is   that sounds about right.  

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I didn't get a specific reliability   report, but if they sucked, Avril would tell us. Okay. You check altertech.i0   on Twitter and go through his reviews, which we talk about every one of his reviews that come out, and he takes the machines apart and tells you what the heat sink is. Oh, this is a bolt on heat sink. This thermal paste looks thin.   He really goes through every one of these machines. And so if they sucked, he would let us know. Okay. It's a good deal. Even if it does suck, do the math. What's the failure rate for an s 21 XP brand new out of the box failure rate? Five to 10%. Bit dear a two. Let's it's not this, but let's say it's 15%. Well, Jesus, it's almost half the price. So even if it was less reliable than something else,   that price is pretty banging. A 16.5 joules per terra hash, a 226   terra hash, that's a decent machine. And, obviously, that's why it's starting to gain some sort of market dominance, 30% of Altair's   large scale miner sales. And that thing just came out. But he's also talking about the, seal miner a three, which is going to come out soon, and that's gonna have 12 joules per terahash efficiency. And it's supposed to be unveiled very soon, perhaps this month or next, even if it's delayed one or two quarters.  

So the end of this year, the a three will still outpace Bitmain's s 23,   which is expected early twenty twenty six. So think about that culminating in a potential bull market in mining now, which I guess at $60 per petahash per day, hash price, maybe this is the bull market for mining. I don't know. But if those things are coming out right now, they could potentially get a lot of sales   for the seal miner a three. I'll put   one. 9.7   joules per terra hash. 9.7.   You want me to respond to that? Yeah. I get a oh and an ah or something there.   Wow.  

Yeah.   Thank you. I knew it was coming.   You know a good minor efficiency when you see one, Peter. Mhmm. Thank you so much. Real wordsmith.  

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He's got a very limited vocabulary.  

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Yeah. He sure does.   Oh, we got a story about Core Scientific and Core Weave, and then I asked, Aaron Hall about that,   and then I asked Baseload about that.   I don't know. I don't have a good read on that story, so we're gonna skip it.   But I'm bringing up the core scientific core weave thing because I do remember blocks minor development toolkit   and them coming out with the Intel chip and three nanometer chip and, you know, some sort of competitor and so on and so forth. I talked about it  

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at length with Zach the other day. Mhmm. Yeah. I got some things to say about that interview. But, I saw I saw a boost. It's pretty fucking rude, actually.   I thought I thought, hold on a second. Yeah. Yeah. I'm having this conversation   with Zach who's,   made, I think, the best hardware   in the Bitcoin world.   Yeah. He was talking to me about, oh, you know, maybe I'd invest in some type of mining kit. And then I tried to fuse him   and the minor mafia together thinking, oh, this could help a few people. I was trying to do my thing as a host who can't really do a lot, but knows people. That's what I was trying to do. And then I see this fucking   disgusting comment Mhmm. In the boosts Mhmm. Attached to actually quite a nice boost. So I was like, fair enough. I'll I'll let this abuse slide because he's paid for it. I paid you to be rude. Yeah. Yeah.  



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But I was I was a bit I was a bit put out about that, mate. It's pretty rude. Good. Yeah. It was put out too. Okay. There Just so many opportunities. Like, Max, we've done that story a 100 times. We've talked about this a 100 times. What what are you doing? Where are you? Where's your mind?  

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Listen. I speak to you about all mining stuff and whatever else. Then I speak to Q about all of his fucking techie stuff.   Then I speak to Karim about gods and demons and stuff. Right?   Then I speak to Seth about Monero and FCMP   and all this new stuff that I'm not sure about. K. You know? Then I speak to everyone on the confabs. Then I've got fucking Jordan in my ear talking about all his clever development stuff and how he's building things on Fart nines and all the you know? Speak to a lot of people about a lot of stuff. Mhmm. So it's hard to keep it all in. I try. I accept your apology. I was trying my best to  

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okay. I was trying to to help and You did a good job. Together.   Smart people. Well, the person you attempted to put him together with   is on the show, and it's a half hour long interview. So let's get on to it. I mentioned the CoreWeaves Core Scientific acquisition.   They got 1.3   gigawatts of power that they're gonna move all to AI   instead of Bitcoin mining. Okay. But this kind of sucks for the Block three millimeter ASIC minor development toolkit because they were supposed to do stuff with them. And now that they're backing out of Bitcoin mining, I don't know what's gonna happen to that minor development   toolkit thing from Block. There's there's been no releases in a long time. We actually read the last release, and that was many, many months ago. So that could be dead in the water.  

Mhmm. Moving on to the Avalon queue. This Avalon q, I don't know if you have seen it, but it does not stand for Avalon q and a.   But maybe   there could be some kind of node implementation   and passport implementation, like the passport just plugs into the top of the Avalon q, some sort of signing thing. So maybe they could rebrand this as the Avalon q and a. Oh,   that'd be nice. Get on it, Avalon, Canaan Mhmm. And foundation. See if you can get some kind of ungovernable pack going on here. But this thing now is, $1,900.   And you compare that to some of the Loki rigs. I think I said this before in the tweet in response to to somebody that it's possible that the   purpose built Loki rigs from Altair are dead in the water after this thing. And they did their time, and they were super cool. And I think the Loki rig builds really inspired   Kanan to build this   Avalon Q. Is that sad?  

Not really. It's evolution, isn't it? It's evolution. Yeah. This thing's really neat. It's like the size of a desktop computer, you know, the tower computer. It's 90 terahash.   It consumes 800 to 1,600 watts,   18.6   joules per terahash efficiency.   Wow.   Wi Fi, and it's $1,900.   That's crazy.  

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It is crazy.   Listen, ever on queue.   You got questions? We got answers.  

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Print it.  

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We should be the full marketing department for them. There's no question about it.  

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Racist marketing.   You'd love to hear it. Super racist.  

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There must be someone who either works   for them  

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or knows them. Oh, Avril gave me the contact of, like, their American marketing team. I just have never contacted them. One of them's gotta be listening and being like, oh, we like this. These guys are crazy.  

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I like that.  

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We love the abuse.   Beat them harder.  

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If you do love the abuse and you are listening, we are definitely open to some sort of collaboration. Yeah. It seems like you guys have good products and putting out some cool stuff, so we'll talk about it. Exactly.  

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Yeah. Just as long as everybody buys it from, alteratech.io.   Exactly. If you do buy this Avalon Q, you know, there's a lot of people out there that if you're purchasing this, you're probably not like a big electrical guy. I just wanna let you know some things that is not gonna work on a 15 amp circuit that I've said this before. It's not gonna work on a 14 gauge wire.   You need 12 gauge, 20 amp, probably a dedicated circuit, and here's why.   If you are on a 120 volts there and you are the max   load on this thing, which is 16.92   amps at sixteen seventy four watts on a 120 is gonna be 16.92   amps. So you're definitely gonna need a 20 amp breaker. So just be sure, possibly make a dedicated outlet, dedicated run to that. Don't have a lot of other stuff plugged in, so you're doing a power strip. I'd recommend, you know, a 20 amp outlet, the NEMA five twenty outlet for this thing. So just be sure that you have the right circuit for that. Okay? Just trying to be mister safety. That's that's dad stuff coming out. And,   last but not least, I had said to Avril, I said, where the hell is What's Miner been? We talk about Jihan Wu's BitDeer and, of course, Bitmain   and the Seal Miner now. What's what's Miner doing?  

And he's like,   I don't know. They kinda faded into our relevance. Perhaps they're working on hydro stuff with HeatCore. Maybe they'll pivot out of the air cooled stuff. I don't know. I mean, I don't think he knows even. For him to say I don't know is pretty odd, so I don't think Whatsminer's communication has been great lately. And there you go. That's it. That's it for our altairtech.io   update.   And we're back.   We are. I broke the stream, apparently.  

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You did. It all went terribly wrong   by pissing.  

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Who knew? I didn't, and I feel really terrible about it. Okay. But you know what would make me feel better is if everyone went to alter tech.i0   and thought about purchasing   a whole bunch of miners, perhaps the bit dear seal miner a two, or if you want desktop or under the desk miner, the Avron q.   Avron q and a.  

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I would feel better if they didn't just go on to   alter tech.i0   and think about purchasing   a minor or two. I would like it if they actually did   purchase a minor or two, and then they use the code   ungovernable  

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for a discount and to help support us. I'll let you in on a little secret. Go on then. You're a better salesman than I am. Oh, I know that. Yeah. If we worked at the same car dealership, you'd be top of the boards. Oh, yeah. And there'd be me like chump. I actually used to be a very good salesmen.   I don't doubt that whatsoever. Yeah. I know that about you. Yeah. Very great. I I for a spell, I too sold cars as you know. Mhmm. I sold Fords. You sold Lamborghinis. So I did not I did not sell Lamborghinis. Porsche. Then you sell  

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high end? No. No. No. Very low end. Fancy boy. No. I worked in a steel porta cabin with, like, lockable windows because it's in a little bit of a rough area. I worked out that port cabin on a used car lot   with   a Polish bloke called Darak,   who could not speak at all, who was our valeter, and me and one other bloke, and we spent most of the time just gambling on horses. That was what we spent. Yeah. We spent a disgusting amount of time gambling on horses, and then occasionally people would come in and we'd sell some dodgy old used cars as well. Yeah. I think they made a Guy Ritchie film on on that. Really? Yeah. What? A used car one? No. No. No. No. They they didn't. I mean, it could easily have been Stolen used cars to pie keys.   I think you can imagine pretty much. In fact, we did have a guy who came and joined us a little bit further down the line, and he was a bit of a fucking lunatic.  

And he'd done, I think, a lot too   much steroids and stuff, and he got a bit nutty. He did have a falling out with some Pykes.   We then had   I don't remember how much damage it was, like, half a million quids worth of damage because   he went toe to toe with them, had a massive fallout because he was a bit of a fucking lunatic. And then the next day, we came in, and they'd taken pickaxes   or something like that and just gone through all the fucking windscreens,   all the bonnets, all the roofs,   everything just completely fucking destroyed all the cars. Fucking boy. There's a massive insurance claim. I can only assume it was them because he was very rude to them, and they did not like that. And then the next day, we had all the damage. So I put two and two together, and I think it was probably them. If there's anything I know from watching Guy Ritchie movies, you don't disrespect Hikes. You don't. It's not smart. Doesn't seem like it. If it was me out there, it would have all been fine, but it wasn't. It was someone who wanted to be tough, unfortunately.   I'd have made them a cup of tea or something and Send the pretty boy out. Yeah. Send the pretty boy, made them a cup of tea, have a joke, have a laugh, be all fine. Now can I ask you something? When  

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I'll do this when I'm with my redneck friends and hillbilly friends, my draw changes a bit. I've spent so much time in the South especially Mhmm. That I can kinda pull that out. And then Yeah. Then I'm with my Pittsburgh friends, you know, there may be a little bit in there, a little bit of this and that. I I can totally chameleon that just because I didn't really grow up in any one place. Yeah. Do you   drop some of the proper   southerner   draw there when when you're with those people?  

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Yeah. A little bit. I think I naturally do it in all situations to some degree. Like, if I'm around really   posh, posh, posh people, I'll go even more posh, and maybe my vocabulary will change.   And then if I'm around, like, proper proper rough as guts people,   again, it slightly changes, but not, like, a lot. Like, I'm not, like, gonna completely change and be like Mine too. It's not a lot. But it's just a bit and it's like a natural chameleon   thing where you don't think about it, but naturally you just fit in a little bit more. I'm not gonna be chatting to Pykeys, and they're gonna be like, oh, yeah. This guy is one of us. They're gonna be like, who dropped this guy off from the royal family? Like, what's going on? Like, do you know what I mean? So, yeah, I think I think everyone does it a little bit. I think they do. Yeah. I try not to, but it comes out. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's only if it's, like, disingenuous.   If you're really trying to be, like, oh, I'm something that I'm not. But it's kind of if it's just like a a little bit, I think that's just normal and natural. Mhmm. It's the same, like, with sales techniques, like mirroring of what someone's doing and how they're saying, and you mirror their speed and how they move and all that kind of stuff. A good natural salesperson almost does it naturally without thinking. They might do it, and they never knew that they were doing it, but then you would get taught to do that. And it's the same thing. You would get taught to, like, be similar to someone that you're selling to. Yeah. You gotta be relatable. We've gone off on so many tangents. Oh, yeah. This is a this is one of our banger shows right here.  

Oh my god.  

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Alright. Got some boosts. Then we're gonna do quick ad read for Lincoin, talk about some quick statistics, and get right into Carl because I know that's why you came. Nostra gang, ungovernable misfits with tits do exist. Alright, girl. Didn't know. Yeah. Unfortunately, now we're all thinking about Nostra gang's tits. We are. Let's get back on track. We'll be honest. Jason c, pioneer,   minor, swag, incoming.   It's possible. I have some ideas. One is a little sticker   that would go underneath your pleb minor sticker that just says pioneer.   Oh, okay. I have to give that to you or Barn has to give that to you. You know, one of the Pleb Miner mafia   actually has to physically hand that to you. You're not ordering that shit. It's like you're earning your stripes.  

Yep. Okay.  

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I like that.  

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Another one is and I know Crown could probably do this easily, is to make   something look like a   motorcycle vest. I talked about this with Coral the other day. And the Pleb Miner logo to be on the back, and then underneath is that rocker that says pioneer.   Okay. Yeah. That's something anybody else got any ideas? Let us know in the boosts. I like the idea of patches.  

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Yeah. You do too. So, like, as you move up in the mafia Yeah. You move from a pleb to a pioneer. So someone like a Chet would get that. It's like Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It's automatic. You know, you now wear that patch with pride. Yeah. And then someone who's just got their bit access. Like, you're a pleb miner, but, you know, you can aspire to be someone like Chet. Right.   And one day, you'll earn that patch. Aspire to be like Chet. Wonder if Chet ever thought a couple years ago that he'd be a role model. I think so. I think that Chet looks a little bit like a   rougher version   of father Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. And I think internally, he must know that, and he knows that there's people all around the world who look up to father Christmas and go, I wanna be good because I wanna be a man like father Christmas. Weird gravitas.  

Yeah. He always knew that he was gonna be a role model, but I thought, you know, maybe he didn't think he was gonna be a role model for a bunch of fucking retard,   club mining,   weird, cunts who listen to this show. He maybe he hoped for more. I don't know.  

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I'll ask him.   Oh, finishing things off with pies.  

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Can I just say one more thing Yeah? Yeah. About father Christmas?   My kids it makes me laugh every time. I don't wanna correct them. My kids think that it's farmer Christmas. That's cute.   Don't correct them. Yeah. I'm not going to. And so they often ask, like, why is there a sleigh? Why isn't there a tractor? Why doesn't he go on the tractor if he's far from the question.  

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It's really good. That's that love of heavy equipment again.   Yeah. Anyway. Pye says, I absolutely fucking hate sportsball small talk. It's such a phony way to go through life. Not for me. Ugh. He also says, I can barely get out of bed most mornings. I'm in so much pain and have very little time for myself in between demolishing buildings, jackhammering   to hit the gym. But I forced myself to   because we are warriors.   John, stop being a pussy   and start working out.   So do it now? Point. Just throw down 10 push ups. Yeah. I'll be I'll be back. I'm gonna I'm you got it, Pies. I  

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Do what he yeah. He's actually doing it.   Oh, no. He's pissing.  

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+1, 23.   +1, 23. +1, 23. +1, 23.   +1, 23. 1, 23.  

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10 yay  

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hey jig a de jing  

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and you're peeing while I'm doing this?  

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Zip! Get out of here. You're peeing.   I'm not doing any peeing.  

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Pee on the floor? No. That was a toilet. That was toilet sound. Next up on Ungovernable Misfits.   Action news.   Statistics.  

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Statistics.   Statistics.  

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I'm a tell you the basics for hashing with basics,   Bitcoin mining statistics.  

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Statistics.  

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Statistics.   Statistics.   I'm a tell you the basics for hashing with ASICs, Bitcoin mining statistics.  

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We are talking about statistics   brought to you by   the Lincoin mining platform and   LOD. That's l o d.   You know what I'm talking about, Max?   ZedMA has already sorted that out. It sure has. You can bet the Lincoin mining platform and load team are taking copious amounts of ZMA.   Zinc,   magnesium   Oh, yeah. Just pounding it down. What's the a for acetate,   zinc magnesium.   I don't know. I'm just throwing throwing like a   pharmacology   kind of word out there. Yeah, I'm sure it's right. Link coin mining, the drama free mining pool   device management   you can do with Lincoin mining.  

You want a site map?   They got that.   You wanna manage PDUs,   programmable logic controllers,   rails automation,   batch troubleshoot machines. You need to log in each one of these individually.   Save yourself some time. Batch troubleshoot.   Where are my miners? I don't know. Check your inventory management, bro. Professional.   Yeah. They're professional.   You wanna scan a barcode   instead of, like, oh, find miner. Blink, blink, blink, this and that. Just scan a barcode. It's easy. They make it easy for you. Mhmm. Profit and loss reports,   load functions like real time energy pricing, demand response, energy cost management. They got it all for you. That's load.i0   or lincoin. Is it lincoin.com? Let me see. I think it's .io, isn't it? It's lincoin.com. I knew it. Why did I question myself? Because it's load.io.  

Okay. Never question yourself again. Loadio,  

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l0d. I still prefer a.com  

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to anio. Good for you, don't you? I feel like there's no school like the old school. What is the io? Like, I know it's, like, you know, on and off. It's kind of techy, but Yeah. I don't know. It actually means something. Like, it's a place or somewhere.   You have to Google that. You Google it. I'm gonna get into some more statistics. Global hash rate on a thirty day moving average is   974   probably.   Seven day moving average is nine zero nine.   Highs in the past month have been as much as nine ninety eight and as low as six seventy. A little bit of spikes, perhaps some demand response stuff going on to, sync one day averages that much. Mining pool hash rates of note. This is gonna be an interesting section because stratum.work   by our friend Borst has a new feature   called Sankey. You know what I'm gonna do, and I hate to do this, is check Twitter  

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real quick because he said who helped him with that, and I definitely want to give them credit. While you're searching that, I'm gonna give the answer to what dot I o means. In a URL,   IO extension typically represents country code top level domain for the British Indian Ocean Territory,   so Indian Ocean.   However, it has become widely adopted and recognized as a domain for tech related companies and startups as IO or I slash o   is a common abbreviation  

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for input output in computer science. Got it. Okay. Some nerdy ass shit. It is. Yeah.   Back to mining pools hash rate of note, stratum.work   by Borst.   It has the new Sankey feature, and he says thanks for bringing attention to it, and thanks to at twenty one underscore   dot d o t underscore   d e v for contributing to it. So good job   twenty one dot dev on the Sankey feature   for stratum.work.   I told you before last month, like, I I watched these things on individual blocks and try to match up the the colors and see who's hashing down to the same, you know, Merkle   branches. Mhmm. And it's hard to do. This guy kinda overlaid,   like, some sort of flowy graph thing that at the end of it compiles   all of the pools whose block templates are the same. So he's, like, done all of my work for me.  

It's really, really easy to read now and fancy looking. My oldest daughter came in and said, wow, that's cool looking. What are you doing? And I explained it to her, and she's like, wow. I really like those colors. It's very aesthetic. You know, it's a big key to say. But she's an artist, and she recognizes stuff like that. That girl's got great styles. Mhmm. You get a lot of style points. 21.dev.   Yeah. Kids are giving you style points.   Take them. Yeah. Foundry's 265   and pull is +1 82.   I have this listed as the ViaBTC   group because ViaBTC,   Trustpool,   we're mining together. So Trustpool was 10. ViaBTC was a 119,   and that equals a 100 and 29. F two is buying by themselves, 98.3.  

Loaner.   Yeah. Binance, Cloverpool,   Poolin,   Ultimus,   their total hash rate was 83.   Spiderpool   was mining with Bitfufu.  

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Bitfufu.  

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It's a cute one. Bitfufu. Never heard that one. That's not either. Spider pool has 67   exahash.   Bitfufu has 15, so that equal to 82. Marathon, 45. Luxor, 36. SCC pool, 29.   EMCD, 26.   These sometimes I used to say that they were an ant pool proxy, but for this block, they seem to be on their own from what I could derive from dreadom.org.   Brains was mining with raw pool. So brains had 10, raw pool had 9.2.   That totaled 19.28.   NT miner pool and dog pool were mining together for a total of 17.86.   Then SBI crypto,   17.  

Then Neo pool,   12. And rounding off the top   15 was Ocean at 10. It's so funny, like, some weird ass pool named bitfufu can spin up and got 15 x a hash with no marketing team, nothing. I don't even know who the fuck bitfufu is. First I've heard of them. Great name. Yeah. Anyway, that's the silly fun bullshit going on with pools. Hash value and hash price. Hash value is $54,004.00   8. That's per pet hash per day.   That's the first increase I've reported in a while on hash value. Hash price was around the high fifties range, and it spiked to $64   per pet hash per day. That's a mini bull run.  

Network difficulty, didn't look it up. Don't care. Transaction fees at the percentage of block reward was   odious.   Odious.   Odious.   Stunk. Stinky.   They were below 1% for the whole month. Who cares?  

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If you care, schedule a consultation  

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with Lincoin Mining to be a better miner, more profitable miner perhaps. You don't wanna go in an FPPS pool? Don't worry. They got a ton of products.   Got a ton of products. It's worth a call. Certainly worth a call to Nima Amir   at n I m z I l or Medi Nasseri   to learn more about their ASIC energy and energy trading packages bundle and save. Up next is an interview  

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with my good good friend, Crazy Carl from Crazy Carl's Corner.  

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Good buddy.   Hey. Before we get on that, I want to mention that Carl   is the recent winner of the energy prize from the hackathon brought to you by the Atlanta BitLabs.   They had a hackathon?  

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Carl won.   He's the energy prize. Congratulations.   He's the best. Nobody does energy mining   like Carl. He's incredible. Here's an interview with him.  

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There we go. I hit I hit the record button, so it's official now.   You know? This happens every time we've only been talking for   forty five minutes.  

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Might as well hit the record button now. That wasn't Carl. That was somebody else. That was last last time.  

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Fucking   You're gonna have to wait.   I thought I did this.  

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There it is. This is why we have our affiliation with Lincoin because you need some professionalism.  

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I don't know why everybody's talking about   John messing up the pleb minor in the wild. It doesn't matter. Stop talking about it.   Hi, everybody. It's time for Carl's Corner   with crazy Carl.  

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Pleb minor in the wild this week or pioneer miner in the wild. What do you think, Carl? Should we rebrand everything Pleb minor?  

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No. But I do like the term pioneer. I've been using that for a while. I did a recording with Pleb Chain Radio a couple years ago now. The title of that episode was Pioneering in Your Own Backyard.  

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So I think that us plebs, we can be pioneers and still be plebs. Do you know what I wanna do? I was saying this to Max and mister Crown the other day is, like, I imagine the Pleb Miner skull and the Pleb Miner thing to be like a motorcycle   jacket. On there, you've got, like, one percenter. Yeah. I I heat my house with Bitcoin miners, so there's my 1% patch. And then maybe we can have, like, a rocker underneath that says pioneer. So we're not casting off our roots with the Pleb minor thing. We're just, like, adding patches onto the leather jacket or the vest. Yeah. Exactly. You know, we can maintain our pleb status and push the needle forward as a pioneer at the same time. So no one listening to this episode of Pleb Miner in the Wild needs an introduction to you or any of that normal plebby podcasting bullshit. Everybody knows who crazy Carl   is. You're part of the team. We've all grown up together. So those introductions, they're out of there. If you want an introduction to Carl, he's only been on the podcast, like, 50 times. So just go back through the library and listen to any of the various Carl crazy Carl   podcasts.  

If you're in the Meshedale, well, you damn well know who Carl is.   To us on Ungovertible Misfits, he's the one that introduced everybody to the eight forms of capital.   He and I have been close friends for many years.   You're a permaculturalist.   You're an entrepreneur,   tinkerer, mad scientist. You're just like, you're my spirit animal. You're everything that I want to be. And we're bringing you on really for your latest invention,   and that is dropping some temps with Bitcoin mining as opposed to heating. So go ahead and get into it.  

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Yeah. I guess if you wanna hear anything about permaculture, the eight forms of capital, my Bitcoin meetup sales and marketing,   this isn't the one. But today, we're gonna talk about some work that I've been doing. I've had this idea to take you know, the holy grail, I guess, is to   take the heat from a Bitcoin miner. And if you have the option to use the heat, great. But a lot of times in the summer, the heat is not as easy to use. And so if you can take that heat and turn it into some form of cooling, now everybody can hash. Basically, no excuse anymore for people not to own and operate some hash at their house. About a year ago, I came I was thinking about this a lot, and I came across this technique,   basically, evaporative cooling technique. And so the system I've put together essentially uses the heat and the airflow from the Bitcoin miner   to aggressively evaporate water to create a cooling effect. And I basically use that cooling effect to cool down a water recirculation loop. So you can imagine I've got a water tank inside the house that's pumping water through a radiator, and a fan's blowing against that radiator in the house. And so I'm essentially taking the coolness of that water and putting it into the room. And so the water is getting essentially warmed up from that process.  

So I take this warm water. I pump it outside into another radiator,   which the airflow from the Bitcoin miner is blowing against. And on this radiator, I have this is the secret sauce, I guess, and this is where I need to continue to refine the idea. But   on this radiator, there is this special clay called zeolite. It's got a really high surface area, and then it's extremely   hydrophilic. It it really wants to absorb water aggressively.   And so by evaporating the water off of this clay,   I'm getting a exaggerated   evaporative cooling effect. The heat and the airflow coming off that miner is naturally   drier air and hotter air, and so it really helps to evaporate the water off of this clay. And so once that water gets cooled back down after being passed through that radiator that's being blown the hot air on it from the miner, it goes back into the water tank, and now the water is cooled back down. And I can then extract more of that coolness into the room. And so that's the basic idea. Do you think that makes sense? Yeah. You describing the flow of everything  

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makes sense. I want to say there's something I think you missed and people don't understand is that the cooler radiator is somewhere else   and that the clay and the miners and the evaporating process happens outside,  

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and then a cooler loop goes inside. So, yeah, the water tank and the cooler radiator is inside the space that you wanna cool, and then that water loop is actually going outside where the miner is. So you could imagine having like, if you got your miners in a black box behind your house or whatever. Mhmm. Now you can essentially   add one of these   radiator units to the outflow of that black box   and take advantage of this cooling effect.  

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Is this a closed loop?  

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So right now, I have it as an open loop just to keep it simple and not have to deal with pressurization   and all of that. Okay. So where's the water coming from to be introduced into the loop? I basically just have, like, a five gallon water tank that it's you just top it off as it evaporates out or whatever. Alright. So, eventually, that water is ambient temps.   Exactly. How fast do you lose water in this loop? Well, ideally, you wouldn't really lose very much water at all because it's going from the tank, out of the tank, through the radiators, and back in. And so just be based on the general evaporation in the space. Okay. You'd have a lid on the tank. It would be hard to to lose much water. I hope I'm not skipping ahead too much, but you have to keep the clay wet. And I saw you have something that you're dripping water onto the clay, and then you had mentioned something about making sure that that's a mist as opposed to dripping water onto the clay. Where does that water come from? Is that coming from this loop, or that's another external source of water to keep the clay wet? So right now in the system I have, it it is coming from that water tank. Just so I could keep things simple, only have one pump. Everything right now, what I'm trying to do is just make it as simple as possible. One, to, like, keep the cost low so I can figure out how well I can get this thing to work Yeah. And then iterate from there. Okay. So if we're starting out 80 degree water, ambient temps, I assume it's probably about, what, 75, 80 degrees there lately. It's been hot here. I've been doing my tests. My initial test was with really warm like, I had everything outside.   Uh-huh. And the sun was beaten down on everything. Everything was really warm. And I found that was actually easier to get positive results. Yeah. I guess you have more of a delta if you're starting off at at hotter. Exactly. Inside, you know, I keep my thermostat set to 78.  

And so it's usually about 79, 80 degrees in my house. Jesus, Carl. And so, yeah, I'm starting off with the water at about 80 degrees.   I couldn't make it in your house. This is an aside, but we only have 10 kilowatts of power to work with, and I wanna put as much of that power through Bitcoin miners as possible. So we cut some corners there. And this is one of the big reasons why I wanna have an AC so I don't have to sacrifice my demand   for AC without mining. I wanna be able to mine and get the cooling at the same time, obviously. Okay. So, yeah, I get this 80 degree water in the tank, and, basically, I've been able to drop the temperature   with just this rudimentary   setup down to 75 degrees. So I get a five degree temperature drop with not ideal   conditions, you know, as far as the the manufacturing and engineering of everything. Okay.  



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Have you tested the water at lower temps?   And do you get a a drastically different delta with starting out at, like, say, 70 degree water?  

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I haven't tried it yet. Basically, where I'm at is right now, the clay, I'm just loosely   placing it on the radiator.   Mhmm. I need to be able to find a way to adhere this clay to the radiator   Yeah. Yeah. To get better   thermal transfer. And I'm also having to play around with there's this balancing point between the thickness of the clay, the layer that's on there. Yeah. You want it to be as thin as possible   to maximize   the evaporation.   Okay. Yeah. So if you cake a bunch of that clay on there, it's not gonna make enough contact with the radiator itself from the top to where it's evaporating? Yeah. Like, the cooling effect won't make its way to the metal of the radiator. It'll have to pass through all this other clay. But if I make the layer too thin, then I'm gonna be starting to pick up heat   from the miner, and I'm actually gonna be heating the water up. I'm just basically gonna get no gains. I'm gonna be at breakeven. That's where I'm at. I'm trying to figure out all the I've got some epoxy, some thermal transfer epoxy that I'm gonna try. I've got thermal transfer   double sided tape.  

And then I've also got these thermal, like, transfer silicone   pads that are used for, like Mhmm. Computer chips and stuff. Okay. Yeah. And I'm just gonna test out each one of those and see what works the best. And, also, it's simplest. I'm focusing here on somebody to be able to easily take a list of stuff you can buy on Amazon Sure. Put this together for a couple $100   and be off to the races.   I don't wanna make it super complicated. I wanna make it as accessible as possible.  

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Yeah. Sure. Yeah. And all all your stuff is like that. What do you got into it right now? I'm probably, like, $3,400  

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in just because I got all this extra stuff that I don't know if it's I'm just testing. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, don't need this. Right. That didn't work. Okay. Yep. This works better. Running through some ideas now after proving that the initial   idea of the concept is having positive results. Alright. With all the bullshit stuff taken out, how much is somebody into one of these builds? There's a few components that you're probably gonna have to buy. You're not just gonna have laying around. Mhmm. So you'll need the radiators,   which are about $25   each. What are these radiators made for originally? They're like GPU. Oh, okay. It's like for water cooling computer systems. Yeah. I saw the form factor and you have it in an old as an old s 19 case. Yeah. The radiators are sized so that you can fit two one hundred and twenty millimeter fans on there. And so it Yeah. It works out that the radiator is just the right size where you can actually shove it into an s 19 enclosure and it just squeezes right in there. It just holds itself up. And it's just as long as it it's a perfect size. So you could stack inside one s 19 enclosure,   maybe five or six of these radiators. And that's the other thing I need to test is, like, I'm just using one radiator,   but I can fit a lot more and, like, get even more evaporation surface area. Right? Mhmm. Alright. So the radiator, how much was that? So those are, like, $20.25 bucks. Okay. And I'm using one as the interior   radiator as well to get that cooling into the room. Yeah. At a bare minimum, you're probably gonna need three radiators at $75, let's say. You need the clay, which comes in 10 pound bags, and you can get that anywhere from 20 to $30.  

So now you're at, like, a 100 something bucks, and then you need a pump and some tubing.   What are those pumps originally designed for? I think it's for the same, like, PC cooling stuff too. Oh, really? Okay. So it uses that tubing Yep. That people build all these nerdy, gaming rigs with. Yep. The tubing that comes with the radiator, you're gonna get with the radiator,   like, three meters of tubing that fits right onto the the pump. It all just kinda plugs together really simply. You don't even need any, like, fasteners or anything.   Alright. So that's just like a barbed connection. You don't need a hose clamp. Right. Okay. Some things that I've also got are, like, foam insulation for the tubing. Yeah. Sure. Because I'm realizing that there is hot air blowing past that tubing. Yep. And so I'm probably getting some loss there and and, obviously, some loss in the transport between the interior space and the minor and everything. So I'm gonna try insulating the tubing, see if that helps me. We're talking, you know, one degree difference  

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is big deal. It's like a very tight margin of, like, having a a useful effect and just, like, kinda not doing anything at all. Yeah. What's interesting about this is it's for human comfort. You know, it's not really a refrigeration unit. You know, you're not gonna get down to that. But when it's 85 degrees in your house and you could get down to 78, 79 degrees, that's a big deal for human comfort. You're just trying to live your life in your home. Right. And the other idea here is that I'm thinking I'm obviously designing this for myself. I'm in a situation where I've got Bitcoin miners running in my garage right now at breakeven,  

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and I'm just throwing the heat away. But if I can now get some of that heat and use it to help reduce my AC costs, that makes my whole operation that much more profitable.  

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Yeah. We're all on razor thin margins. And I don't know. Last couple years, all of us have just been turning off in the summertime.   I did it last summer. I've done it again this summer, obviously for different reasons because I'm transitioning to something else. This has been the hack forever. Like, what the fuck do we do in the summer besides put our well, we're all working outside doing stuff. But as far as as as mining is concerned, besides putting our heads in our hands and saying, well, I'll wait till I can do heat capture again. This is nice. This is something to tinker around within the summertime. Everybody's got a clothes dryer. Right? And everybody's got a hot water heater. Yeah.  

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But those conversions are intimidating. I mean, in my clothes dryer, I had to cut a hole in it and basically destroy the dryer if it didn't work. Yeah. With my hot water heater, you know, I had to do some plumbing, and that's an appliance that you want to be working all the time. And I've actually had some issues where it's like, oh, the Internet went down. I didn't notice, and the water tank got cold. You know, with this, it's just like it's just a freebie. And if it doesn't work, it's not a big deal. Or, you know, if you're having to tinker with it, it's not like you can't take a hot shower or something. You and I talked about this the other day that we've all been building these systems where you basically have to train your wife on how to maintain them.  

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Like, woah. Don't go in there and do that right now. You don't you know that you have to flip this lever and turn this switch and spin around in a circle and put your left foot in, your left foot out to do normal everyday things in your home, like dry fucking clothes? Yeah. My clothes dryer, you have to get on the phone,  

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get the browser up, open the IP, make sure that Yeah. You start the miner,   check on the cycle, make sure that the cycle doesn't end and the miner's still running and it overheats, and there's definitely a lot more. You're sacrificing a lot of convenience   in these DIY   appliance conversions   Yeah. In order to get those sweet, sweet, KYC free SATs DCA'd and get some work out of the minor too. Right? But in this air conditioning concept, the other cool thing is, like, people with immersion setups probably have a dry cooler, And so you could basically attach a similar thing, you know, just like a radiator on your dry cooler Mhmm. And accomplish the same effect. Yeah. It's not specific to your what do you get a k pro on there? Yeah. Your k pro setup with another  

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case attached to it. It doesn't have to be that. Any source of hot air, like, I'm even wondering you can slap one of these things on top of your normal air conditioning   exhaust and cool something else down with it. Sure. Were there any other mediums  

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like this zeolite clay that you had your eye on in any particular reason why you chose that as an exchange medium? If you go on YouTube and look at, like, these desiccant based air conditioning systems that people have DIYed Yeah. They're like these insane Rube Goldberg machines of different stages, and this fluid goes here and gets misted like this and then blows past air like this. And by the end of it all, you end up with some cooling effect, but there's, like, a lot of components involved and everything. And so I had considered some of those other desiccants,   and it just seemed like this zeolite clay was the simplest, most accessible thing. Like, even when I was looking into, like, how to adhere this stuff, they use the zeolite clay on these desiccant wheel dehumidification   things for, like, large scale HVAC systems. Okay. So they essentially adhere the clay to these, like, metal wheels that are, like, very fine mesh for the air to pass through. And the way they adhere it is, like, some complicated ass process. Right? And I was like, I'm not gonna be able to accomplish that at my own DIY scale, but I could probably just glue it on somehow, and that'll be good enough. Right? And so it just seemed like the simplest place to start. Mhmm. Another thing too, if you wanted to make a freezer or a refrigerator,   I think you could do it with this clay as well. But now you're talking about you have to put it under a vacuum to get those really, subzero temperatures.  



[01:27:32] Unknown:

Okay. I watched a video, and you said something about putting under a vacuum, and that stuck with me.   Can you talk a little bit about the physics as to why putting it under vacuum would increase the effects? Well, it just lowers the temperature at which the water  

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can evaporate.   Mhmm. And so   you get an exaggerated   evaporative cooling effect to the point where the water evaporates from that clay so aggressively that it actually freezes. It creates these subzero temperatures. Mhmm. So you basically have the clay that's wet inside of a vacuum in a valve. And when you open the valve, now you're allowing that clay to evaporate the water. And once it's evaporated as much as possible, you have to basically recharge it. Mhmm. You have to get it to recondense onto the clay again. And so that's where the That's the holdup. It just gets a little bit more complicated.  

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Is anybody doing that on an industrial scale?  

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I'm not sure. K. I've definitely seen, like, these research papers   proving that these systems work. It's just like I think in most situations, it's like, dude, we've already got heat pumps, like air force heat pumps and stuff. Like, we don't need to do it this way. But when you start to look at it through the lens of, oh, well, I've already got this waste heat. Now you're looking at a system that is enticing, you know, because it can really utilize that waste heat to recharge the clay under vacuum. That's gonna be the main pushback from everybody is why not just use a heat pump? We've kind of already figured out all the physics on this thing.   What's your response to them? Well, I'm not trying to, like, reinvent a new air conditioner. Uh-huh. Like, this isn't very permaculture way to look at it. Right? Like Yeah. I'm just trying to integrate my systems together. Like, I wanna have my Bitcoin mining system   take the waste, produce no waste, and then redistribute the surplus back to the system. So if I have the surplus of heat and I can redistribute it back to my system keeping the energy at the homestead in the form of cooling, that just makes it so I have to use my heat pump less with work that I'm already doing anyways.  



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Yeah. I think I think most people that would push back on it really don't understand your whole permaculture view of the world. There's nothing in your life that you don't see through that lens, and I know I know that about you. Even the smallest details of your life,   you're still filtering through permaculture principles.  

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It makes everything fiddly as we discussed with the Oh god. I'm having conversions and stuff, but the aggregate of it all, and especially when you like, you're basically always doing a dance with with everything.   If you can start to really find the rhythm and dance well, you make some beautiful stuff. You know? It's just, like, all of a sudden, you just keep games going. I can feel it, baby. Yeah, dude. And Yeah. You just, like, end up with so much abundance   Mhmm. From basically  

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just normal things that would be happening anyways. But by, like, creating a feedback loop through all the different systems and recapturing and reusing stuff many times, you just get a lot more bang for your buck, so to speak. You know, anybody looking at this build, we'll we'll wrap it up here with this. Just understand who Carl is. Understand the permaculture way of life. Understand that this guy has been sustaining himself and his family and his homestead by tinkering and thinking about every small detail from the whales in his field to the companion planting that he does and pulling of trees so the goats can eat this and next to the yurt. And it just there's nothing on that homestead that you haven't thought of. You know? Here's the horse manure. Here's the chickens on the horse manure.   Just everything. It takes a good two, three hours to get a tour of your homestead, and you could probably make that tour go a lot longer than two or three hours with all the thought you've put into every detail of your life. It's fucking incredible. I just hope that this idea   is out there now. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. It's, like, really easy for people to take it, and I'm sure that I have not figured hardly anything out yet. And so other people can take it and run with it. And if together we all try it, I think we can end up something that really works. You know? And it's really exciting, man, because like I said, if you've got hash and you can't do anything with it in the summertime, now you can. You heard the pod that we did on the PMM, like, 21 projects, but a bid x ain't one. We'll add this at 22. 22 projects. This is in the realm of the $100 to $400 price range that I've put out for that kind of stuff. So add it to your list. Buy some zeolite clay, buy some, gaming rig radiators, and go to town. See what you can do. What do you got to lose? Couple $100. Right. It works with an s nine. Works with like you said, you could use any waste heat source. Maybe you could even use the exhaust from your clothes dryer or whatever. Dude, what the fuck? Do whatever the fuck you want. How many times do you think I say that on the show? Do what the fuck you wanna do. Give it a shot. What do you got to lose? Last thing, I think this might be the last show before Lake Satoshi, so we'll just kinda weave this into a Lake Satoshi ad read. August 2 this summer,   Lake Satoshi begins.  

I'm I'm most excited to have more people there. Like, you know, it's me, you, and Chet, and and some other people come. And Solix came last year, and that was really special. But this year, so many of our friends are coming to Lake Satoshi, and I like, I can't believe it, what this has grown into. Just for us personally to spend that kind of quality time with your friends that you don't see all year long, but we talk to each other, you know, couple times a week, couple times a day, say good morning to each other every day. How to spend that time with all of you physically is it's gonna be really special this year. Yeah. I'm super looking forward to it. I think Lake Satoshi is gonna be at a a new level this year Mhmm. Just because people are organized now. They have plans for how they're gonna participate in the event and make it great. And I will have this contraption  

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there on display. Okay. So if you wanna see the air conditioner in person, it will be at Lake Satoshi.  

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There you go. Where are you setting up at? I'm gonna be hanging out by the lake. Okay. But I I'll set up the contraption over by the shop so everybody don't have to get all the way to the lake to see it. And there's gonna be power there, and it'll be better. Well, just to let me know, Sollex and I, I think we're gonna set up on the hill where you guys have camped before you and, DK with the school bus. So I think we might stay up there. Sollex will have some stuff to share with everyone, activities for the kids. So come and see us up on the hill. Yep. I'll have my table set up with all my Homestead Apothecary   goods as well. What do you got? What can I bring sats to buy? I can't commit to anything yet. Oh, fucking come on. I I couldn't really say. You're ridiculous.  

But I will have syrup. That's for sure. You didn't bring a lot of cider last year. I didn't like that, so I hope there's gonna be cider. I don't think there's gonna be any cider. Son of a bitch. But, you know, there will be these herbal smoke blends that I'll have. So if you wanna roll up a herbal cigarette and skip the tobacco, you can come find me. Interesting. Okay. I'm sure Greaser and Rod Palmer will like that. Something else to smoke besides k y c tobacco. Yeah. Oh, you know what you should bring? This is going kinda long, but   you the drying herb setup that you had last year. And what do you dry? A stinging nettle for allergies?  



[01:34:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Purple dead nettle. That's it. Purple dead nettle. I've got some. I just don't really have a blend that tastes good. I've been experimenting with that, but I could definitely bring some and people could take it and make their own blend with it. How do you consume it? As a tea. Okay. You just boil water, steep it in the water as hot as you can. I it tastes like spinach, basically. Oh, delicious. Yep. Spinach water.   Maybe Otis can set something up at his coffee shop for different teas of yours. There you go. I'm just focused on having a good time. I'm gonna show up with what I got, and that's gonna be fun. And, really, you know, the big point of it all is to exemplify that the Bitcoiners bring the high quality stuff Mhmm. And they made it themselves.  

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And we're gonna watch some stats circulate. You know? Yeah. We are. Yeah. Definitely. I'm bringing a good bit of them to exchange. I want you guys' stuff. That's what the mesh economy is all about. We're gonna be earning and spending and earning and spending and flipping and having a great time doing it. Till we're sick to our stomachs.   Alright, brother. Thanks for joining us on   Club Minor in the Wild, and I'll see you at Lake Satoshi.  

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Later, man.  

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Later. Remarkable   as always. What a guy.  

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Yeah. It's a good word. Remarkable.  

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Yeah. Remarkable,  

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Karl. I wish it was a k. Can't think of a k word that would be You could just remarkable. I mean, you could put it like a really big K. Yeah. Yeah.   You figure crown will figure it out. He's good with that kind of stuff. Remarkable  

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man. I love that. I love that we were just talking about that as well. And   there's Carl working away. Mhmm. Not just working away, but actually has a working model of it. Yeah. That he's fabric cobbled.  

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He is quite the fabric cobbler.   Mhmm. And it's easy for people to go, well, what is a two degree temperature drop in water gonna do for anybody? I don't know. It's the process,   man.   You know what I mean? The guy thought of something, and then he did it, and he fabricobbled it up. Mhmm. And the proof of concept works, and you don't know where that's going to lead to. Yeah. And a couple of degrees actually can make quite a good difference. You know? I think you said five degrees, and I was like, five degrees makes a difference. Mhmm. It does. I don't know if that was c or Fahrenheit.  

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There should just be one universal   temperature   thing. Okay. Yeah. I really hate that there's two. I also hate that there's, like Too bad.   The way that the Americans do the measurement system in, like, in inches. It's like a We know how it pisses off everybody. We don't care. It is horrible, though. Like, it makes so much more sense just having millimeters   and centimeters  

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and Let's apply that to Carl. Yeah. It would make so much more sense if he just stopped doing regenerative agriculture   and permaculture   and went and worked at a job somewhere   where he had health care   and No. That's a salary. Got his two weeks. It makes so much more sense. Why would he ever fiddle around with a more difficult system?  

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No. That's so different to, like, it's a two and a half inch wrench. I'm like, shut the fuck up. Ridiculous. Baby. There's nothing ridiculous about what Carl does. It's very cool. Cool Carl. Yeah. Everything is cool with cool Carl.   So he has developed   something using this special clay, whatever it was called. Zeolite. Theolite   and some other Zeolite. With a with a zen. Zeolite.   He's managing to   use the waste heat from his miners or what what would otherwise be waste heat   and then   lower the temperature   in his room. That is pretty cool. Yeah. And   like you say, like, if that's the start of something   and then, you know, Zach was asking about this specifically and was like, you know, I'll throw some money at it. If something can be done, I think it's a good idea, and other people in that group can all work together. Maybe five degrees  

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is not the limit. Maybe there's something more that can be done because not everyone wants cooling all the time. As Carl was saying, you put that in a vacuum, and then you can increase results. The kind of funding that Zac can provide can make this research happen. I think so. And maybe it's not just Zach. Maybe  

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Zach does something and then other people see what's going on and they wanna throw some stats that way. It makes sense because, you know, all this time where you have take you as an example,   when summer starts rolling around   over the years, you're always like, ah, okay. I'm turning off some minors. I'm switching things around. I was doing the heating, but, obviously, now I don't need that anymore. Or people are exhausting that waste heat out, and they're still running them, but then it doesn't make sense cause you need to have the second use for it to be worthwhile. Otherwise, you're actually just better off again just like buying Bitcoin.   So if you already have all that hash, you don't wanna be turning it off. You suddenly say, well, I don't need heating anymore, but I need some cooling because the sun's shining now. And then Mhmm. Things switch around again. You're like, oh, it's getting cold. Right. We'll switch that again. Now I need some heating. But the whole time, you can run   all your machines and have that secondary   use   out of it, which you really need to maybe be profitable, but at least break even. I think it's a fucking  

[01:39:23] Unknown:

amazing thing. It doesn't always have to be some sort of purpose built thing that you attach onto a miner.   The concept of having a radiator coated with zeolite clay can be incorporated in any mining application. If you're running a hydro unit or an immersion unit that's going out to a dry cooler, well, you could put the zeolite clay contraption on the other side of that exhaust heat. As long as you're   evaporating water   from the zeolite clay with dry air, you could potentially cool down the water going through a radiator.   Mhmm. Number of applications   beyond mining and beyond being   specifically attached to one miner. Mhmm. I like it. I like where's brains go. I don't like it. I love it. Oh, good for you.  

Before we close out the show, I'd like to do another mention for Lake Satoshi EVM Park. Candles will be there. Maybe I'll bring some stickers and sell those.   Barn should have some jerky. If not, I think he'll have maybe lighters or some doodads or knickknacks. So come and visit Barn. He might have some things to sell.   Perhaps Fundamentals will bring his new book, bitcoin for institutions   which is available on Amazon for purchase. If you'd like to read that it's made for institutions who want to actually buy bitcoin for real for real bitcoin in the case for that. So perhaps if you have   somebody who runs an institution, CEO of a company, buy them that book and see if they can't get fundamentals in touch with them and perhaps he could come speak to the board. To the board.  

To the board of investors,   but perhaps fundamentals will be there with his new book. Bring some stats to everybody.   Spend them. Use them. Okay. That's it. End of show. Well, before we do that, I'm just gonna add one more thing in.  

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If anyone is feeling generous before we close the show out, I'd also like to bring attention to the massive amount of work   that our good friend Jordan is putting into bringing the Ashigaru Terminal onto   start nine.   He hasn't asked for any funding.   He   never asked for any thanks. He goes and does his   not nine to five, much more than nine to five, then he helps us with the show, and then he helps build this stuff out. Six to eight. Yeah. I mean, literally. I would just like if anyone's feeling generous and thinks that that would be useful to have the Ashigaru Terminal on a start nine, consider just doing a nice little tip or little donation. I would say even before you boost this show or send any SATSO away, consider it. You can do that by sending to his pay nim,   which is plus   sticky   drawing 36,   plus   sticky   drawing   36.  

And I know he's not gonna listen to this show, so he won't know. He's already listened before it's been edited. So he's not even gonna know because otherwise, he'd stop it. So anyone who is listening Oh, he would he would stop it. This is gonna piss him off. Really annoy him. And I would ask him to put it in the show notes. I'd ask him to do these things, but I know he wouldn't just think about him. He works very hard on all this stuff, and, we wouldn't have it without him. So  

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consider it. Please do. You can come at this from two perspectives. You can support him   in all of his hard work that he never asks a red cent for and puts all of his heart and soul in. If you guys had any clue   the amount of work that Jordan does outside of his personal life,   which he's not an office worker. Like, I was out laboring every day,   putting his body on the line, and then at nighttime, putting his mind out there for everybody.   If you wanna support him, please do. Please, please do. But if also, if you want to piss him off,  

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support a good point. This this is win win. It's amazing. If you don't like Jordan and wanna piss him off, send them some Love him. Think that everything that he's done over the past couple of years and the helpful things that he's done for us and just generally for anybody who cares about freedom and privacy,   also send them stats. Do it either way. Sticky drawing   36. That's his pain in.  

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Right. I think that's the end of the show. It is. Karim, I don't have an outro song. You like like a piece of music? Throw it in there, bud. Oh, be careful. Be careful.  

[01:43:37] Unknown:

It's gonna be some fucking Some some death metal thing. God. Let's just we're gonna trust you, mate. Please don't do anything   horrible. Put something decent in here. Something that fits.  

[01:43:49] Unknown:

Cannibal corpse. Oh, god.  

[01:43:51] Unknown:

Okay, mate. Well, it's been lovely speaking with you.  

[01:43:55] Unknown:

You too, pal. Okay.  

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Let's close out the show. Tata.  

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I still   hear your voice when you sleep next to me.   I still feel your touch in my dream.   Forgive me my weakness,   but I don't know why   without   you, it's hard to   survive.   Because every time we touch, I can't get this feeling.