Welcome to another episode of "2 Grumpy Vets and a Dude," where we dive into a myriad of topics with our signature blend of humor and candid commentary. This week, we kick off with a light-hearted discussion about the quirks of technology and the challenges of communication mishaps, setting the tone for a conversation filled with laughter and camaraderie.
As the episode unfolds, we delve into the unpredictable world of weather, discussing the potential impact of storms and the intricacies of weather forecasting. Our conversation takes a serious turn as we explore the aftermath of natural disasters, the role of government aid, and the complexities of disaster relief funding.
We also touch on the fascinating world of cryptocurrency, reflecting on the rise of Bitcoin and the potential of emerging digital currencies like XRP. Our discussion highlights the volatility and opportunities within the crypto market, offering insights into the financial landscape of the future.
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Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets and a dude. This is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian Rich and the duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
Dude, what's up?
[00:00:36] Bryan Goodwin:
What's up?
[00:00:38] Rich Chelson:
Not much, man. What's up with you?
[00:00:41] Duuude-Ron :
Just another day, closer to heaven. That's about it. Aren't they alright?
[00:00:51] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[00:00:54] Duuude-Ron :
So you're the only oh, oh, hell. I'm actually gonna have I said you're the only one on here?
[00:01:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Brian, Brian just texted me and said he's grabbing fuel.
[00:01:10] Duuude-Ron :
He'll jump out. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. He just texted me and says Zoom's open. So usually, you guys usually, you guys are in a heated argument about some type of fucking electronical disposition of some button that didn't get pushed at the right time or, you know
[00:01:31] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Well, I wouldn't say it's always heated. It's it's it's, it's, more perplexed because half the time, it's it's like, I didn't touch anything. Or at least I thought I didn't, but, you know, that's I mean, I could've, but still. And I don't think I don't think we've, I've fully really fixed it, but it's it's not as bad as it as it had been. So I'm just saying screw it and leaving it.
[00:02:06] Duuude-Ron :
Good. Oh, there you go. Okay. Especially especially after you said the word. That's is that gonna be your big word for the night, perplexed?
[00:02:20] Rich Chelson:
Oh, you know, I don't know. Okay. Probably, but I I don't know. We'll see.
[00:02:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, I was just I was just curious.
[00:02:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, I figured I would use it now, you know, while it's still early.
[00:02:38] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. And while Brian isn't here.
[00:02:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Brian hasn't had a big word here lately.
[00:02:48] Duuude-Ron :
Well, for that matter, neither have I. You've had all the big words in the last, oh, I don't know, 5 No. 5 episodes?
[00:02:59] Rich Chelson:
No.
[00:03:00] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Well, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Really?
[00:03:08] Rich Chelson:
Because because normally, Brian's got some big ones. He he he throws in there. Oh,
[00:03:20] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. Yeah. I I don't know. I could just be talking out my ass too, but I think I think that you've thrown out at least the last 3.
[00:03:30] Rich Chelson:
So I could yeah. I can't I can't really argue with that. I mean, yeah, I've I've had well, I've been I've I've been trying to up my game a little bit, I guess. I don't know why. I mean, it it's pointless, really, if you ask me, but, you know, I don't know. Every once in a while, it is just nice to sound somewhat intelligent.
[00:04:01] Duuude-Ron :
Well, let's see intel intelligent or intellectual? That's that that is the question of the day. Intelligence or intellectual? Well, I guess we're all I guess we're all screwed on that one, aren't we?
[00:04:22] Rich Chelson:
Right. I was thinking, dude, I'm like, yeah, I'm out. I'm like, yeah, man. That's like, yeah. Yeah. I, you know, I mean, I use big words every once in a while, and I do use them properly in a sense when I use them. But, yeah, as far as it goes, yeah, that's about it.
[00:04:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, at least you have that going for you.
[00:04:49] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[00:04:51] Duuude-Ron :
Now anything else going for you, that that could be the question of the day.
[00:05:00] Rich Chelson:
There you go. You're right. That could be debatable. Very much so.
[00:05:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:05:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. We might be having another freaking, storm coming up through this way. Oh, yeah? What Yeah.
[00:05:20] Duuude-Ron :
What are they predicting?
[00:05:24] Rich Chelson:
It's they're not a 100% sure yet because it's just hitting, Honduras and all that right now, and they don't know which way it'll come off land. Some of the models couple of the models are saying it could come up to, Louisiana, 4 or 5. The other models are saying it could steer over towards Florida and miss us, up here.
[00:05:55] Duuude-Ron :
But You know, and I'm and I'm just gonna stop stop watching the television models because yesterday, I saw it, and they're they're saying it's already in the fucking middle of the gulf. No. It's just now in just now in Honduras?
[00:06:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's crossing land right now.
[00:06:13] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:06:14] Rich Chelson:
And, it's supposed to come off land oh, god. When did I see that thing? Say tomorrow afternoon or or Saturday. And then, when it hits back in the gulf, it's supposed to be a tropical depression, but the winds out west, there's a high pressure over Florida right now that's fixing to push out, and the winds off the west coast coming across Mexico could hit the side of it. And it depends on how strong those winds hit as to how far it pushes the storm. So if it doesn't push it that far, it could hit me, and it could hit Louisiana and go on up. But if it pushes it farther, it'll push it up, like, just to the east side of Pensacola, and everything like that, and then go up and out.
So, yeah, it's no. It's not in the middle of the gulf right now. Not yet. Okay. Not till next week.
[00:07:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Like we like we really need another fucking storm.
[00:07:24] Rich Chelson:
God, man. Well, the thing is, look at it this way, man. 15 more days and hurricane season is over.
[00:07:34] Duuude-Ron :
Is there any more churning in the or, in the Atlantic?
[00:07:40] Rich Chelson:
No. No? No?
[00:07:43] Duuude-Ron :
No. This is the last this is the last one to be churning?
[00:07:47] Rich Chelson:
As far as far as everything goes right now, yes. There there is there is nothing else in the Atlantic or anything trying to just pop up and spin around. This is this is the only storm that is going right now.
[00:08:07] Duuude-Ron :
It just needs to go it just needs to go back in the other direction, just completely south of Turks and Caicos and then fucking go north in the Atlantic. Right. That's what it need to do.
[00:08:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well
[00:08:24] Duuude-Ron :
And just leave everybody alone.
[00:08:26] Rich Chelson:
Right. Oh, yeah. No. I wouldn't argue that point. Yeah. It was fun because, I've got, the other day, I had, Britney and Dee text me. You doing okay? How's the weather down there? I'm like, weather's alright. I'm like I'm like, you know, sitting here thinking. It's like, why? You know, what y'all worried about? I mean, there ain't no storms fixing it. But
[00:08:56] Duuude-Ron :
Excuse me. Wouldn't it be not wouldn't it be wouldn't it be nice if it just freaking dies down in the middle of a fucking gulf?
[00:09:04] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But just, oh, yeah. And just and just dies and said, okay, I'm done. I'm out.
[00:09:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. That would be like we need any more fucking hurricane devastation in this country right now.
[00:09:22] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:09:23] Duuude-Ron :
Shit. It's gonna take freaking what? Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina. Damn, it's gonna take them fucking years to fucking rebuild of something that happened in less than 24 hours.
[00:09:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, I mean, shit. Look at Katrina. Nollens isn't isn't even half rebuilt and and won't ever be.
[00:09:56] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. There's a lot of those people just said, you know, when their stuff got destroyed, it's like, you know what? I'm gone. Ain't doing this shit no more.
[00:10:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. Because you see the thing is is, is, what's sad is, you know, the, FEMA dollars, okay, goes to the areas that has the highest property values and stuff. And, and the areas where the houses where the property value values aren't as high, they tend to just let fall by the wayside. And the thing is, though, a lot of people like down there, you know, on the outskirts outskirts, they might or might not have flood insurance or house insurance. So, yeah, they yeah. They just lost everything. Yep. You know? So, yeah, it's it's it's sad.
[00:10:59] Duuude-Ron :
It is. It truly is. And then I saw another blip that come across my meme about it's probably been about a week ago or so that there was another, FEMA representative out there in, what is it? Chimney Rock? Yeah. Chimney Rock that's just blowing through construction areas. You know well, I can't say blowing through, but going through at a high rate of speed in construction areas and not giving a crap about the people that work around there. It's you know, it's not like he's gonna fucking get all be able to get all the way fucking through, but yet he's gonna do 30, 40 miles an hour in a 20 mile an hour zone.
[00:11:52] Rich Chelson:
Dude, this is the way the government works. Okay? I mean, it's sad. It's wrong. Yes. You know? I I mean, we should freaking take care of people that, you know, but you see also, this is some of the same people that never thought that they would experience anything like this.
[00:12:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But for somebody to drive through knowing that the fucking roads and all that are tore up and have and, I mean, we're talking it's only a couple of blocks long. Right. But for this for this one individual to do just think he's on the interstate, it's like, dude, you don't have any common sense to, you know, hey. 20 miles an hour. You're going through a freaking rural town with major destruction. You don't have to go through here 40 miles an hour.
[00:12:51] Rich Chelson:
You know, just don't care. That's the thing. You don't care.
[00:12:55] Duuude-Ron :
I know. I know. It it it is.
[00:12:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. It sucks, and it's stupid. You're right. But, you know, that's the thing. People don't give 2 fucks unless it's about them.
[00:13:10] Duuude-Ron :
Exactly. That's what I was just fixing to say. Well and, you know, well, it didn't happen to me. So, you know Exactly. Real really not my, I really don't have to worry about it. You know? Exact exactly.
[00:13:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's Yeah. Yeah. It's sad. And and yet and yet these are the same people. Oh, we need to help the poor. We need to help the homeless. Well, then get out there and fucking do something.
[00:13:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And here's here is something fucking absolutely incredible. Is you have all of these and I don't care what party. Democrat, Republican. This storm comes through and these 2 representatives get 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars for fucking, campaign donations, but not not a fucking dollar goes to people that are devastated by this hurricane.
[00:14:16] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, the thing is the laws that have been acted by the government and congress and all like that says they can't use the money for that no matter what. No. Yeah. Well, see, when you have a specific
[00:14:29] Duuude-Ron :
person donating
[00:14:32] Rich Chelson:
$10,000,000
[00:14:35] Duuude-Ron :
to somebody's political campaign where if they donated, it's a tax write off. Why not send $10,000,000 to x to oh, I don't know. Build a 100 houses?
[00:14:52] Rich Chelson:
They don't want to. I know they don't. And and see, that's the thing now. That is their money. They can do with it as as as they see fit. Oh, I You know, it's not the same as as as the way we see it.
[00:15:08] Duuude-Ron :
I know.
[00:15:10] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. I know. Trust me. And no. I'm not saying it's right or or or anything like that by no means, but, you know, and that's see, that's the thing. America is an individual country. A fucking individualist country. Everybody is out for themselves.
[00:15:34] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, without a doubt. Nobody else.
[00:15:36] Rich Chelson:
No. Yes. You're right.
[00:15:39] Duuude-Ron :
Especially when it comes to fucking money.
[00:15:42] Rich Chelson:
A lot of times, yes. And and and on the same hand or or on the other hand, people will donate to help people out and stuff like this and everything. And that's fine and that's great, but not everybody will. You know, everyone says, oh, I can't make it. I can't, you know, I can't afford it, you know. You know, if you make you know, and that's the thing. No one's asking anyone to send a $1,000. Send $20. Send $50. Okay. Yeah. You know? Fox. Send $10. You know, out of out of 380,000,000 people in the US, okay, and that number is probably higher now.
But let's just take 380,000,000 for for easy math. $1 from everybody is $380,000,000. That could go a long way. The only problem is if if you're if you're trying to go and and and and and help an area that has been devastated by these current storms, The government wants to control that money. And if you try and give it to the government and say, I want it to go here, you have no say so where the government puts the money at.
[00:17:05] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know.
[00:17:06] Rich Chelson:
So so, you know, a lot of people are like, well, fuck you then. And and, I mean, I can understand that because it's like it's like, you know, I gave $1,000. I want it to go to help people in North Carolina and Georgia or wherever, you know, South Carolina, wherever. You know, I want it to go over here. And, federal government says no. You know, we need to send it here, there, you know, wherever else. Yeah. And so, yeah, a lot of people are like, no. That's not that's not gonna happen with my money.
[00:17:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:17:45] Rich Chelson:
You know, and you can't fault them either because I'm sorry. You know, if I'm if I'm freely given a $1,000 of my own money, I wanna see in where it goes.
[00:17:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. So Exactly right. Not just for, oh, I need to write off a $1,000 for tax purposes. You know? And, don't get me wrong. You know, that is great that people will donate just for a tax write off, you know, and donating it to whatever source they want it to go to versus a capital gains tax.
[00:18:33] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[00:18:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I just wish I wish I could.
[00:18:44] Rich Chelson:
See, that's where that's where, actually, if, someone wants to donate, you know, direct to somewhere, I would find a local nonprofit in the area that they're wanting to donate and get Yep. Monthly to them.
[00:19:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:19:01] Rich Chelson:
I mean, that's there's the answer for that. You know? You know? I You don't disagree? Know where your money is going, call the area that you wanna donate in and say Yeah. Right. Boom. I give you a $1,000 because you know for a fact it'll go to the area.
[00:19:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And if it isn't controlled by a bureaucratic style system, and I'm talking about it. I'm not talking about US government or state, but, you know, mayors and etcetera, you know, don't send it to a government establishment. You know, send it directly to, you know, like you just said, that particular nonprofit where
[00:19:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Find a local nonprofit.
[00:20:02] Duuude-Ron :
More more than likely, all that money will go directly to that particular
[00:20:13] Rich Chelson:
entity.
[00:20:14] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah. It's like when when I was in the military and I know that you had to donate to CFC combined federal campaign. You remember that?
[00:20:28] Rich Chelson:
I don't remember it, but, yeah, I probably had to.
[00:20:32] Duuude-Ron :
And, you know, that great big book of who, you know, of all the organizations. And I always looked at Yeah. I always looked at what percentage because they have to disclose the percentage that goes into admin cost. Right. I mean, some of the some of these organizations had you know, I can understand 10%. Okay. So 90% out of my dollars is going to the people that they're actually trying to help. 10% goes to organizational cost. But there was a couple of them on there that I saw that 60% was going to administrative, costs.
Are you kidding me? Then then how can that be a nonprofit if 60% goes to admin cost?
[00:21:34] Rich Chelson:
Simple. Be because they would look at it. Any any nonprofit has admin cost. Okay? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I get that. And and the admin cost include paying, management, you know, people in management. Not not everybody in a nonprofit work for free. Oh, no. I know that. So so therefore and and that's where that's where you have to look at, you know, look at the individual salaries of of the people they're paying. Oh, I get it. You know, I don't agree with it. Well, no. But but you see though, the thing is, you know, you know, if they're saying 6, 60% is admin cost, okay, Look at how much they are paying the CEO, the CFO, the COO, and on down.
[00:22:34] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[00:22:35] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because, yeah, you've got you've got paper, you've got ink, you got printers, you got computers, you've got office equipment, buildings, blah, blah, blah. You know Mhmm. That's all admin costs. That's all I know it is. But but and and you see, that's the thing. Some some of these companies pay their c, CEOs and all these all these people a lot of freaking money.
[00:23:03] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm. What?
[00:23:07] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[00:23:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Me personally, usually my money went to, habit the local Habitat for Humanity.
[00:23:21] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:23:22] Duuude-Ron :
That's where my money goes. And the reason why is because I know what is involved with Habitat because of the amount of time that I have spent on a building site.
[00:23:40] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:23:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So that's where I that's where I put my money at when I donated because I know
[00:23:49] Rich Chelson:
That's the point.
[00:23:51] Duuude-Ron :
You know? But that but that's just me. Yeah. Right. But
[00:23:55] Rich Chelson:
but see, that's the thing. A lot of people, only go by advertising. What they see ads for. Yep. And and and if you try and say, oh, no. These these guys, you know, let's okay, because Habitat for Humanity, well, at at least down here and in other areas, they don't really advertise that much. No. You know, because it's so expensive and, you know, that takes money away from the job they're doing. Yep. Okay. So but but, you know, like like, you know, Red Cross, Goodwill, and all this stuff, you know, people say, oh, I wanna donate to them. And I'm I'm not saying that, those nonprofits don't do good things because they do, but they could do a whole lot more if they would cut their cost.
You know, cut their admin costs.
[00:24:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:24:56] Rich Chelson:
You know, maybe maybe, stop stop making that a one extra, commercial or whatnot. You know? Mhmm. But then again, what do I know? Because I'm just me. Yeah. But, you know, and that's that's like Salvation Army. About the only time you'll see a Salvation Army ad is during Christmas. Yep. And you'll see maybe 1 of 3, if not all 3, and that's it.
[00:25:30] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[00:25:31] Rich Chelson:
And then you don't see nothing the rest of the year. Nope. But see, though, the thing is, Salvation Army is still going strong because they have a sound business model. Yeah. And their CEO doesn't millions of dollars.
[00:25:56] Duuude-Ron :
He's in Oh, I know.
[00:26:00] Rich Chelson:
He's in 6 figures, but not high 6 figures. It's low 6 figures.
[00:26:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Uh-huh. No. Yeah. He's yeah. So I don't know. I'm just a little old truck driver. So what the hell do I know?
[00:26:17] Rich Chelson:
Well, Ron, you actually know a lot more than you give yourself fucking credit for. Just saying. In fact, I won't look it up.
[00:26:33] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-oh. We're looking stuff up already. Alright. Alright. We're looking stuff up.
[00:26:39] Rich Chelson:
The CEO at the Salvation Army. The total pay for the year and this includes bonus bonuses or anything like this, has an average base salary of 145,000. And they get no additional, pay per year, and they can top out at 197,000. Right. So that's it.
[00:27:11] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[00:27:12] Rich Chelson:
So yeah. I mean, an average salary of 1.45. And they say the lowest has been 109, the top has been 197. So it's not even it's not even $200,000 a year. Yeah. So say Well,
[00:27:35] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. And, well, just from what I've read, you know, and I I can't tell you if it's true or not that the assigned, I don't know what the assigned salary is for this new department that Trump is creating with the oh, shit. Elon Musk and another guy are heading it. It's something to do with, yeah. Suck. What the hell? Damn it. Dojo.
[00:28:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was I was I was likely hearing something about it. I didn't pay much attention. Hang on. Let me see if they Yeah. Let's see. Department of of Government Efficiency.
[00:28:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. There you go. And the amount that, I guess, Elon Musk is going to receive for his salary for that?
[00:29:00] Rich Chelson:
Honestly $1. $1. I figured that.
[00:29:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:29:06] Rich Chelson:
I figured that because he don't want no money.
[00:29:12] Duuude-Ron :
Like he needs it, being the richest man in the world. Yeah. No. Well,
[00:29:18] Rich Chelson:
no. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. If he doesn't no. No. He doesn't. You're right. But if you put Bill Gates in that position, he would want full salary.
[00:29:30] Duuude-Ron :
Absolutely.
[00:29:31] Rich Chelson:
So so, I mean, I mean, so it I don't care if you're the richest man or woman in the world or not. It depends on the type of person you are.
[00:29:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. That's that's what I'm that's what I'm saying. He's him being the richest man in the world and being appointed to this particular position, he wants or or he has agreed on $1. Right. To to do this, you know, particular position where, you know, some of those, posts are making a 150, $200,000 a year. You know, he's gonna take a dollar, which is which is great. Now what the hell is that particular organization gonna do for the United States over the next 4 years? Who knows?
[00:30:27] Rich Chelson:
Say that again.
[00:30:31] Duuude-Ron :
And what was the name of the organization you said? Department of what?
[00:30:35] Rich Chelson:
Government Efficiency.
[00:30:37] Duuude-Ron :
Right. So over the next 4 years, hopefully, we get some type of efficiency completed, you know, and streamline something. You know, what are they what all are they gonna streamline? Who knows? You know, hopefully, it it does make a difference to, you know, the people of this country.
[00:31:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Let's hope. But, you know, honestly, when it comes to government, how often does it benefit the people of this country?
[00:31:18] Duuude-Ron :
Not very often, unfortunately.
[00:31:21] Rich Chelson:
Right? So, yeah, it's it's, Elon Musk and, and and, Vivek Ramaswami.
[00:31:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I wasn't even gonna try to pronounce that name.
[00:31:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, I probably butchered it, but I yeah. What the hell I'll try.
[00:31:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I wasn't even gonna try to, pronounce it because yeah. No.
[00:31:47] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:31:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:31:51] Rich Chelson:
But no. And I I mean I mean, you know, that's the thing. It's just you know, I'm I mean, I'm all for government efficiency because, by god, we freaking need it and need it bad. Yep. But, you know, the thing is, we haven't seen anything in years. So what's what's to lead me to believe that anything will happen? I mean, I I do hope I do hope something will happen. But
[00:32:30] Duuude-Ron :
So do I. So do I. I hope that something improves as far as our economy over the next 4 years.
[00:32:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, that's honestly, that I think is almost a given. Because the way I see it, and and and this is my opinion, but the way I see it, if Trump did it the first time, you know damn well he could do it again. The thing is, though, in 2028, when we have another election, okay, if, whoever wins, are they gonna continue that, or are they just gonna totally just tank the whole thing?
[00:33:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yep. You're
[00:33:18] Rich Chelson:
right. Yeah. You you see, that's the thing. That's why that's what you see, that's the thing. You know, everyone is is looking at the right now. You've gotta stop looking at right now. Right now is done. We're just That would We're just waiting for January 20th. Okay? Right now is done. You gotta start looking 4 8 12 years down the road.
[00:33:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Oh, I agree with that.
[00:33:46] Rich Chelson:
If you don't, you're fucked. Mhmm. Plain and simple. You're fucked. And and this is for both parties, republican and democrat, because as of right now, the democrats have no one. No one. The, freaking republicans really don't have anybody to run-in 2028 that's strong enough yet. They might No. They might have a few people on the line, but, you know, do we know who those are?
[00:34:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. No clue.
[00:34:20] Rich Chelson:
So you see, that's the thing, you know. That's like that's like and and you see, this is where the mainstream media wants us to concentrate on right now instead of later on down the line because if we happen to get, banded between now and 2028, they're fucked again.
[00:34:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:34:46] Rich Chelson:
Again, just my opinion, but that's the way I see it.
[00:34:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. I know.
[00:34:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I just, you know, it, you know, it's funny. Everyone, you know, worries, oh, who is Donald Trump putting in office for this? Who gives 2 shits? It's it's Don. You know what I mean?
[00:35:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it's not like and it's not like he's gonna fly all the way to this little airport in temple and come knock on my door and say, Hey, Ron. Who the hell do you want to have as the DOJ? Right. And Ron's gonna say, you know what? Here's here's my suggestion. I think you need to put somebody in that position that comfortably wears overalls and a flannel shirt.
[00:35:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:35:55] Duuude-Ron :
Same way with a lot of these other positions. Oh, let's get a couple, for that matter, moonshiners in here. Right. You know? Somebody that, you know, absolutely does not And moonshiner is probably the wrong popular or the wrong, profession. But somebody that has no political agenda, they just wanna come in and do the best job possible for that assigned position without any political agenda and just do the job.
[00:36:36] Rich Chelson:
Right. But but you see, that's the thing though. Okay? With with the government, just doing the job is not enough. You have and it's sad. Okay? And and, again, I might be wrong, but I don't think I'm too far off here. You have to play the politics because that is all Washington DC is. It's nothing but politics. In other words, you have to or or grease this palm on on this one thing in order to get your thing done. So so so so how can anyone go and just do the job that they have been hired or appointed to do, you know, without you know?
[00:37:28] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, I I'm just I'm just trying I'm just trying to say, you know, let's let's get the swamp cleaned up and let's get the politics out of the politicians and just freaking just go. And you say you're gonna do something for the country, you know, and it's within some type of common sense reason, let do it. Don't go get get elected with all these promises and then only go by your agenda. What is going to benefit you? Right. But again, that's just wishful thinking.
[00:38:07] Rich Chelson:
So I'm I mean, this has been this has been government for,
[00:38:12] Bryan Goodwin:
what, a 100 and 700 now? This has been government Yeah. For the past. For since man started putting people together for, for ruling purposes. Right. And it's always been something everybody has an agenda. Even those who who claim, oh, I have no agenda. You've got a damn agenda. Those are the ones you're really gonna watch out for.
[00:38:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, if their gen if their agenda was to actually serve their constituents, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
[00:38:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, but what is your definition of serving their constituents? I mean, not constituents, but they're the people that they Yeah. No. You used the right word. That's constituents. The people that they represent.
[00:39:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:39:05] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:39:07] Bryan Goodwin:
But what does that what does that look like? I mean, is it can they see if they can bring as much money to that area as they can? Because that's what a lot of, a lot of, of of of con con con congressional, people do. They vie for hey. Let's get a, let's get a part put up in such and such and so and so's name. That's more money that gets brought in. And it's just how do we divide up the taxpayer money?
[00:39:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't disagree with that. But, you know, when we are well, I mean, we probably need to get off politics anyway. But okay. I'm on just make one last statement. We're we're part of the UN, but we but we financially provide more than, what, 70% of the UN contributions?
[00:40:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. And they they don't have to pay rent for the, for the the their UN building from what I understand. So yeah. No. We're footing the bill for UN as as a, as primary part. And I'm and we were also footing the bill for, for NATO, and that's what that's one thing that that Trump did do. He's, like, going, dude, if y'all I'm not gonna protect y'all's ass unless y'all start ponying up your fair share of the of the funds.
[00:40:46] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[00:40:47] Bryan Goodwin:
And so they're all of a sudden, everybody's, oh my. You know, they start going stupid and and and stuff. So they, but they did. They started ponying up ponying up their portion of the, of the agreement. And I don't know if you'd call NATO better for it because, I mean, hell, NATO's the reason that, the reason there's a reason that, we have Ukraine and Russia going going at it as it is now.
[00:41:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And what what is for and I I don't know. I'm just throwing this question out there. What is it about Ukraine that Russia wants so very badly?
[00:41:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Doctor. Well, from what I understand, and I could be completely wrong, but first off, Ukraine is basically Europe's form of the US when it comes to resources and grain production. The Ukraine, you, the Ukraine, I'm, Ukraine is, I grew up with it being called the Ukraine. So sorry. But, but it's the Ukraine is a, is the bread basket was the bread basket of Russia? It was at one time controlled by Russia, and that was before the Soviets came in from what, from what I'm understanding. They've always kinda been a part of the Russian, the Russian,
[00:42:43] Duuude-Ron :
layout. UXFR.
[00:42:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. USSR. Yeah. They're back when back when they were part of the Soviet block. Mhmm. But they've but they also have a lot of the rare earth minerals and things like that that would help Putin have a better better access to, to money because he could then be able to sell minerals and and things like that to, to battery manufacturers because it was supposed to be a lot of lithium and and and cobalt or whatever else is supposed to be in that area. Anyhow, there's supposed to be several 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars worth of minerals and and ore in the Ukraine area.
But, again, it's so it's all the stuff that, that allows for Russia to be able to continue running Russia. But Ukraine has it, but Ukraine is also so freaking screwed up in their in their government governing area that they don't know you know, they're they're so too busy playing, playing let's let's see who can, who can squeeze enough money out of, out of everything. And so there's corruption runs right. That's the reason why you had, had Biden's son running around in over there. You had, alert. What's his damn name? John Kerry.
You had him well, he does. He's big ass tall dude, long face Right. Right. You know, he looked like Lurch. So, but, so you had his son was running around there doing doing oil and and and energy bullshit too. Believe the Pelosi's had, had a relative over there being a being having a finger in the in the pie also. All these, all these Democrats who wanted to who were sitting there screaming, oh, we're we've gotta protect, Ukraine is yeah. They wanna protect Ukraine because if they don't, they're gonna lose their income or lose a portion of their income.
Yeah. So so, I mean, as a whole, that's what that's what it's all about. But
[00:45:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Such a long pause we have. We're all trying to. Well, I'm
[00:45:29] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm finishing up my, my my my quote unquote post trip. So there we go.
[00:45:38] Rich Chelson:
Cup of coffee and a cigarette.
[00:45:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Well, pretty close enough as it is. Yeah? So
[00:45:48] Rich Chelson:
but
[00:45:50] Bryan Goodwin:
but anyhow, so so what else has been going on in, in, in in your world, Ron?
[00:46:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, just on vacation this week.
[00:46:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Just enjoying it, kicked back, made your own little, little beach in the backyard?
[00:46:11] Duuude-Ron :
Sure. Yeah. I'll go with that. Sure. I don't have any waves coming up. Yeah. Well, you know, that's dry this week. You know? Well, that that's that's what the sprinkler is.
[00:46:24] Bryan Goodwin:
So as the sprinkler comes along, that's the that's the wave crashing over you.
[00:46:31] Rich Chelson:
Hey. Thank you. Oh. Yeah. No.
[00:46:34] Bryan Goodwin:
My what?
[00:46:35] Duuude-Ron :
My I don't even water the lawn, and my water bill's fucking over $80 a month. Alright.
[00:46:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Ours is usually just about $80 a month. That's water.
[00:46:51] Duuude-Ron :
Well, just water sewage, trash. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Mhmm.
[00:46:56] Rich Chelson:
And mine's, like, 86 altogether, I think.
[00:47:00] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Yeah. Damn. I see. Deep water sewer trash. Yeah. Mine just keeps fucking going up and up and up and up, seems like.
[00:47:14] Rich Chelson:
But Yep.
[00:47:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Now. And, Rich, what about you? What have you been updated this week?
[00:47:22] Rich Chelson:
Not too much, really. Like, honestly, I've played my PS 5 more than anything this week. First time I've I've actually played it this much in the month. But yeah.
[00:47:36] Bryan Goodwin:
I've been watching. Are you are you continuing, or are you doing, you're doing a replay on it? Or
[00:47:43] Rich Chelson:
No. Kinda just mainly excuse me. Mainly playing my one game break point.
[00:47:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[00:47:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Just just playing that just because
[00:47:56] Bryan Goodwin:
I like going on. Yeah. But did you are you is it the are you playing the same game, or did you restart it over again? Or Oh, no. No. No.
[00:48:06] Rich Chelson:
Actually, with breakpoint, they've got an, another side to it, and it you you know, see, you have the story mode. And then, I guess I guess if you get, like, the year 1 pass or whatnot, and I think I Oh, it's got a battle pass system.
[00:48:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:48:27] Rich Chelson:
Well well, it gives you Operation Motherland. Yeah. Operation Motherland. And if you switch over to that, it takes you out of story mode. But, oh my god, You get to do so much more. You get to Yeah. It's, it's game as a service. Well No. I don't think so.
[00:48:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's got it's like, it's not Battle Royale. I understand it's not Battle Royale, but, but Fortnite, Warzone, those are games as services. No. There's another one. Avenger Marvel Avengers was a, was a games as a service. It's where they to keep you playing, they try to come up with new ways for, new missions for you to play. And so it works. It works real good if the, if the publisher is willing to continue coughing up new types of new types of missions that they have to take out.
[00:49:32] Rich Chelson:
Say this here, they just in in Operation Motherland, they just totally I guess this was a few years ago, revamped the whole map, took away, you know, some of the easier stuff and just said, this is the harder version. Go for it. Mhmm. You know, it's it's yeah. And it's still the same map, a lot of the same areas, but they added, like like, I've got areas to where I can't fly in. I gotta drive in because if I fly in, they send a swarm of drones after you, and the land drones. And those motherfuckers will shoot until you're dead. They will not stop. Even if you heal yourself or get healed and you stand back up, you're falling back down because you're dead again because they will not quit, and you can't
[00:50:23] Duuude-Ron :
you can't get You know, that's enough. And, you know, I was gonna be facetious because I'm not a gamer, and I don't have a PS 5 or anything like that. Do you at least get to shoot out the fucking side of a helicopter or fly a helicopter?
[00:50:38] Rich Chelson:
Fuck, yeah, dude.
[00:50:40] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[00:50:41] Rich Chelson:
I've got I've got a I've got, like, 3 helicopters that that I can fly at any one time, you know, out of BIVVAC. I've got one with rockets. I've got one with the 30 30 Mike Mike Gatling gun. I've I've got a big ass on, bitch, that has 2 30 Mike Mike Gatling guns. So, yeah, I mean oh, yeah. I can do some damage. The only thing is you have to be careful of the SAM sites.
[00:51:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[00:51:09] Rich Chelson:
Because them SAM sites are no joke.
[00:51:12] Bryan Goodwin:
You get anywhere close. If they lock in on you, give it up. Just jump. Yeah. You gotta sit there. You gotta dive down. You gotta lower yourself down to where you're basically sitting on the ground.
[00:51:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. But no. No. I had been I had been playing this game, you know, for a while, and it it just I mean, it just I don't know. This week, I just felt like shooting people and blowing shit up. So I mean Right. I I I Or or or an enemy drone that has
[00:51:41] Duuude-Ron :
300,000,000,000 rounds of ammunition.
[00:51:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You see I have a freaking bullet sponge.
[00:51:48] Rich Chelson:
The the that's where I normally take my, suppressor off my sniper rifle, get under cover, and I sniped that son of a bitch. One shot. Boom. They're dead.
[00:52:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. So do you, on breakpoint, do you get to transfer your your weapons that you got from wild lands over? Probably not. But Yeah. Everything
[00:52:12] Rich Chelson:
yeah. Yeah. Everything no. This is a no. Breakpoint. In fact, actually, I've got better weapons on Breakpoint than I do Wildlands. I mean, I've got weapons on Wildlands, which which, you know, I still play Wildlands every once in a while. I've got some decent sniper rifles and stuff like that. But, yeah. No. Mud Wildlands are breakpoint, though. The weapons are about the same. Right. So it, but, yeah, I just been I just been basically playing that. I didn't play it today, but but the last couple days, yeah, I had been spending some time some time with my PS 5 because it was just sitting there just just being lonely.
I'm lonely.
[00:53:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Oh, so lonely. Yeah. I was doing a lot of that myself since I was sitting at the house.
[00:53:08] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I bet.
[00:53:10] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, still playing cyberpunk. I'm 3rd playthrough and it's and I'm, you know, I've already got another 100 hours into this one.
[00:53:18] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, I I did I did get another game, but I don't think I really tried it. And I forgot the name of the game, but I'm not I'm not near my PS 5, so I can't turn it on.
[00:53:35] Bryan Goodwin:
It's such an amazing game. I can't tell you what it is.
[00:53:39] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That that's true. It is it is so amazing that that I totally forgot the title. Just mind mind blown.
[00:53:48] Duuude-Ron :
Well, look at me. My one favorite game, and I can never remember the fucking name of it, but you guys Yeah. Snap it off right off the top of your head.
[00:53:57] Rich Chelson:
Right. Gallagher?
[00:53:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Gallagher? Jairus. Jairus. Jairus. Okay.
[00:54:03] Duuude-Ron :
One of these days, I'll remember that.
[00:54:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Whenever we finally find it, as a as a stand up cabinet, we bring it over to your house.
[00:54:13] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:54:15] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god.
[00:54:17] Rich Chelson:
Shit. We would never get dude on the mic again. Or we would.
[00:54:23] Bryan Goodwin:
You may not even be here to talk and then.
[00:54:28] Duuude-Ron :
You may not get him to go back to fucking work.
[00:54:31] Rich Chelson:
Right. But yeah. No. No. Other than that, I just yeah. Today, I don't know. I just I just kinda hung out.
[00:54:44] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, let
[00:54:48] Rich Chelson:
let my mind wander over couple things I've been gnawing on and just
[00:54:55] Bryan Goodwin:
and just let things flesh out. You know? Oh, like, what what are you what are you wondering about?
[00:55:00] Rich Chelson:
No. Just, my mind's my mind's still thinking about this laser engraver. I am but, I did realize something. This roof is gonna cost me a fuck ton of money. Yeah. Just because, you know, I financed the amount. Right? And Yeah. My monthly payment for the next 10 years, I'm a wind up paying over $38,000
[00:55:38] Bryan Goodwin:
for it. Oh, yeah. Unless unless you, unless you have a rich uncle that comes along, gives you a $38,000 that you throw to him, and then you'd you'll knock it a couple thousand off.
[00:55:53] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. But yeah. No. I was sitting here thinking it's like it's like it's like it's like fuck. I mean, that that just irks me because, you know, they say, oh, yeah. Your interest rate's 14%. Bull and shit. Ow. Ow. Yeah. Oh, no. No. No. I would rather have 14% interest because 300 and what? Now listen. $320 a month for a 120 months. Do the math. That's 38,000 and some change.
[00:56:30] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah.
[00:56:32] Rich Chelson:
Okay. If you borrow 19,000, 38,000 is 50% interest. It's double. Where'd that 14% go? Out the fucking window.
[00:56:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, every bit about the window.
[00:56:50] Rich Chelson:
So so, yeah, it's like it's like, you know, I'm sitting here thinking. It's like, you know and and I did well, I've looked it up a few different times. I I still check just to make sure nothing's changed. But, you know, I can get a little part time job if I want. I have to make I have to make less than, 1500 a month or no, 12.50 a month.
[00:57:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Because So basically, you'd be a Walmart greeter?
[00:57:18] Rich Chelson:
Pretty much.
[00:57:20] Duuude-Ron :
Be before what affects your, SSI Uh-huh. Abilities?
[00:57:26] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. SSI and my t d I u.
[00:57:29] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:57:31] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I won't I if if if I made over, okay, because a federal poverty level as of 2024 is $15,060 a year. Okay? So as long as I make under that, it doesn't affect anything that, I'm currently getting. If I make up with that, yes, with social security, I would have to pay back $1 for every 2, over the, federal, poverty level.
[00:58:08] Duuude-Ron :
And Yeah. Then after taxes and all that, you've brought home about 23¢. Yeah. Pretty much. But,
[00:58:18] Rich Chelson:
the thing is though is that, it could affect my, my, TDIU, benefits. I wouldn't lose all my benefits because I I still have my 90%. That's a given that's that is stationary. It's not going anywhere.
[00:58:38] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[00:58:39] Rich Chelson:
And so yeah. Yeah. I was figuring it up today. And if I did lose that, I would have to make almost $4,000 a month more in order to, maintain what I have currently have right now as far as Right. And everything like that. So Yeah. So, yeah, I'm just I'm just gnawing on some things. Trying to, you know, flesh out some ideas. Nothing nothing I'm looking to jump into right away that that's for damn sure because when I do this, I'm I wanna do it properly, you know, because I'm not about to you know, if I wind up making more than the federal, poverty level, I will. I'm the type. I will get in touch with social security and say, yo, hey.
You know, I made this. You know, I made more than this. You know? Do what you gotta do. So I'm just Yeah. I'm just trying to figure things out.
[00:59:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I gotcha.
[00:59:56] Rich Chelson:
You know, and, like, well, like, if I do do laser engraving stuff, you know, what products I might do, might not do, or, you know, what what, you know, where am I gonna source my materials? You know, shit like that.
[01:00:16] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Just but it's primarily something to occupy your time with?
[01:00:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Kind of. Yeah.
[01:00:25] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I gotcha.
[01:00:26] Rich Chelson:
Gives me something to kinda make my, make my brain think a little more. Hang on a second, guys. Y'all talk.
[01:00:39] Bryan Goodwin:
We talk. We talk. Alright. Well, we could talk. So what do you wanna talk about?
[01:00:44] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, I don't know. What
[01:00:46] Bryan Goodwin:
what what do you wanna talk about? I wasn't ready for me to pass a ball like this. I'm a lot of busy stuffing my face with some gumbo or, jambalaya.
[01:00:54] Duuude-Ron :
So And you and usually and usually, we can't get you to be quiet.
[01:00:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah. Yeah. Because usually, I don't have food in my mouth. So
[01:01:03] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that you know? That yeah? Okay. So? Well, you could always talk like this. Yeah.
[01:01:11] Rich Chelson:
I'm just
[01:01:15] Bryan Goodwin:
oh, shit. Do that for them.
[01:01:17] Duuude-Ron :
What do you what do you got on the back of the trailer tonight?
[01:01:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, got OSB out of out of Jefferson.
[01:01:24] Duuude-Ron :
Is it is it your usual Thursday or, Thursday night load? Well, not I mean,
[01:01:31] Bryan Goodwin:
most of the time, yeah. It's it's kind of what I normally would pull on a Thursday night, Friday morning. The only big difference that we've had now here recently though is that for the past month and a half, I was hauling, hauling, plasterboard out of, out of Fletcher to Dallas. And so more times than not, I was Friday, I would be or, Thursday night, I would be, like, over in Bowie, because that's best place to park. You can have a bathroom to go to and and, be able to get coffee in the morning. And tonight, heck, I was gonna I was gonna stop over at, over at the the Petro and, and stay there, but I was, like, going I kept, there's plenty of backup parking spots, but I just the it's all blindside backing and yeah. I I don't like doing blindside backing.
[01:02:36] Duuude-Ron :
Sorry. Oh, that's so much fun, isn't it? Oh god. I yeah. Just just
[01:02:43] Bryan Goodwin:
gets my gets my loins all fired up, I tell you. I bet. So so, yeah, we, so after I kinda drove around the lawn a few times, I was like, fuck this. And that's when I was like, alright. I'm gonna come over here. I'll just go over to to Fox and, and sit here for the, for the night and and get up in the morning.
[01:03:08] Duuude-Ron :
Where are you delivering to when you when you're hauling, Gibson?
[01:03:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, most of the time, there are different, drywall supply centers for for commercial, commercial, drywallers. Oh, okay. So there's places like, FBM, and they're they're kind of all over the place. We have an FBM here in, Oklahoma City. There's, 3 that I know of in the DFW area. There's one all the way out in Tyler. And I'm sure and, there's one, if I'm thinking right. No. No. That's a Cassie Jones. There's I'm sure there's probably another one over in, over in, like, Longview. I mean, they're all over the place. So that's surprising. Are they the ones are they the ones that supply, like,
[01:04:07] Duuude-Ron :
Home Depot and, those kind of places, or are they strictly commercial?
[01:04:16] Bryan Goodwin:
They're pretty much pretty much commercial. Oh, okay. I mean, we we grabbed we I've I've delivered, stuff to to Lowe's before. So, I mean, they they often often will order all from there. A lot of times, our our, OSB will take it up to, like, Boyse Cascade, or it'll be a customer pickup from Boyse Cascade. And so we just go down to Jefferson, pick it up, bring it over to Oklahoma City. So so it's just kind of a just however you wind up wanting to do it.
[01:04:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Lowe's and Home Depot. They, mostly when I've gone to them places, I just I I just take the stuff straight to them. There's no there's no company that services
[01:05:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Lowe's or Home Depot. The truck Right. Go straight to them. They're a big pain in the ass, though, especially Lowe's because good god, they want you to call ahead and, that day and tell them when you're gonna show up. Well, my GPS tells me that I'll be there at about, about 5 o'clock. I was like, well, no. We we stopped receiving at, you know, at at, at 4:30. So, need to need to let us know, what time do you think you'll be there, on, on, on, it was, like, Friday morning. It's like, what time do y'all start receiving? It's like, I'm gonna be there.
Yeah. No shit. I'll I'll sleep in a freaking parking lot over there. Yeah. That's what I do. I stay stay at the parking lot and they're like, all right, well, can't have you can't have you stay the night here, but you can. And a lot of times they'll try to tell you that, y'all you can't stay the night here. Like, well, I'm not don't have to stay in your actual parking lot, but there's plenty of parking in the maller in the strip mall areas whenever, whenever they're, they're there's after hours. So I can I can find a place to park? Trust me. But, but now it's it's just a pain in the butt because they want you there, and they give you, like, a, like, a 15 minute window of, one side or the other. It's like, Jesus Christ. So it's, you get there, and, you're driving. And normally, what I'll do is I'll see what my what my GPS says, and then I'll add 30 minutes to it just because, well, I I don't take off as fast as a car does. So Well, you should.
Come on. The cars think I should. Oh, yeah.
[01:06:48] Rich Chelson:
No kidding. God.
[01:06:52] Bryan Goodwin:
It's got a funny.
[01:06:53] Duuude-Ron :
And, you know, I like my truck as it being an automatic. So, you know, even having a full load and I'm, you know, at close to my £80,000, you know, it starts me off in usually from dead stop. It'll start at 2nd gear, then go to 5th, 7th, and 9th. And when it hits 9th and I'm do and I'm, you know, starting off and I'm doing less than 20 miles an hour and I'm already in 9th gear, it's like trying to get that truck up to speed, it only takes about 19 miles. Yeah.
[01:07:36] Rich Chelson:
That's why I always hated a fucking automatic just for that shit right there because you're in top gear. Well, they say it's not lugging the motor, but I call it lugging. And it takes you, yeah, like you said, another 20 fucking miles to get up to, you know, regular speed. And it's like, no. Kiss my ass. Let me have a stick, and and I can move up and down the gears and and get up to speed in about a half a mile or less.
[01:08:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[01:08:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I know. Because yeah. No. They are. They're they it lugs. They don't like to say that it's lugging, but it's lugging because, I mean, you really don't need to have the engine down around the around the a, you know, a 1000 RPMs because you're not blowing out, all the, all the, the what is the damn thing? Hydrochloric acid that, that is a byproduct.
[01:08:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yours
[01:08:41] Rich Chelson:
You mean the DEF?
[01:08:44] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. DEF is, urea.
[01:08:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No.
[01:08:48] Bryan Goodwin:
But when you're lugging, one of the reasons why lugging is so bad is because you actually have, it it it may not be hydrochloric acid. It's a it's type of acid anyhow as a byproduct.
[01:09:02] Rich Chelson:
I was gonna say hydrochloric acid is bleach, isn't it?
[01:09:06] Bryan Goodwin:
No.
[01:09:10] Rich Chelson:
Are you sure? Yeah. I've always known hydrochloric acid to be bleach.
[01:09:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I know that when we haul HCL is is doesn't smell like bleach whenever you catch wolf, catch a lump full of it.
[01:09:24] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. I mean, it hasn't been tamed down, but
[01:09:32] Bryan Goodwin:
And it could possibly be. I mean, it is I don't know. I water and coring, so it could very much be.
[01:09:41] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I I I mean, I've always known hydrochloric acid, to be bleached. Okay. I I learned that back back when I was shit. I think I was in school when I learned that. I don't know.
[01:09:56] Bryan Goodwin:
I just know that, I mean, 1, you don't wanna mess with high HCL anyhow, no matter, you know, and unless it is down to the, to, like, household bleach levels, which I mean, it could be like hydrogen peroxide where it's it's only, like, 2%.
[01:10:16] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:10:18] Bryan Goodwin:
So at at 2% HCl, but
[01:10:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh, it's okay. It's it's, hydrogen chloride, which is HCl. And it it says, and as such is a hydrogen halide.
[01:10:37] Bryan Goodwin:
K.
[01:10:38] Rich Chelson:
See? Hang on. So At room temperature, it is a colorless gas which forms white fumes of hydrochloric acid upon contact with atmospheric water vapor. So, yeah, I guess it's, hydrogen chloride gas and hydro hydrochloric acid. Hydrochloric acid is, I guess, a byproduct of hydrogen chloride, which is Why? Which is h h c l. So I don't know. It's oh, this is saying hydrochloric acid. It is also known as muriatic acid.
[01:11:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Yeah. I was thinking it was muriatic acid, but I was like, oh, no. It's now I don't know. I can remember. I I just remember using muriatic acid, when I because our the our city water is so fucked up. You have to use it to to knock your, knock your pH, whichever direction it needs to go, you know, whichever direction, an acid muriatic acid will sit in water so that you could whenever we had our swimming pool Yeah. We would dump, like, 2 gallons of muriatic acid in there and and, let it set for the day. And then the next day, we would turn the pumps on, let the pump circulate. And then we would go through and do a do a, pH test. And it's like, oh, it's a little hot a little high or a little low or whatever direction it goes. And
[01:12:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's been 4 years since I've done played with a fucking pool. So I've never played with a fuck that. I ain't playing with no pool. But, yeah, you don't wanna get a snoop snoop full of, muriatic acid. No. No. That
[01:12:29] Bryan Goodwin:
that hurts.
[01:12:31] Rich Chelson:
You don't go out. God. Oh my god. That hurts.
[01:12:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, obviously, it would because when it comes to contact with water, it turns into it and turns into the acid. Mhmm. The HCL evaporate is airborne and then it comes to contact the moisture in your lungs. So
[01:12:50] Rich Chelson:
and and and the thing is freaking muriatic acid will clean concrete, like brand spanking new. Oh, yeah. It'll etch concrete
[01:12:59] Bryan Goodwin:
in no time flat.
[01:13:01] Rich Chelson:
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Try it sometime.
[01:13:06] Bryan Goodwin:
You can buy it at the store. Oh, yeah. No. You can buy it at we I mean, we used to go to go to Atwoods, and that's where we'd pick up our you can buy the Walmart.
[01:13:16] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:13:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Just don't smell it. Just don't just don't take a big whiff of it.
[01:13:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh, not even a small whiff. A small whiff will may choke you. Damn. A big whiff? Oh, yeah. No. That'll flat put you on your behind.
[01:13:38] Bryan Goodwin:
I have a feeling who that Jackass is. But now well. What? You had someone walking up to your truck? Not walking up to the truck. Just parked pretty much right beside me. I'm like, dude, there's not really any parking there. But I'm like I said, I have a I have a really good idea who this dude is.
[01:14:00] Duuude-Ron :
Are you just marking your truck? Yeah. Why don't he fucking go inside? God, I hate that.
[01:14:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Nah. It's no. It's it's I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about about 1 of our drivers for a moment, but oh, well. He didn't listen to the show.
[01:14:19] Rich Chelson:
But,
[01:14:20] Bryan Goodwin:
one of our drivers. And he I don't know why he he thinks he needs to truck like this. And it tells me that he does not he is all he's out of, he is out of, out of hours all the time, so he's hasn't he probably he has to PC a hell of a lot more than what he does or what he claims. Okay. Because this guy is known for getting up at, like, 1 o'clock in the morning and driving to location, to wherever he's needing to deliver at and trying to be he'll try to be the first one there. And then once he gets unloaded, he goes, grabs another load, takes off. Now granted, he's gotten he gets a lot of a lot of good loads, but he's also the if DOT ever decides to go or to find him and kinda look deeply in his in his, in his log book, it's not only him that's gonna get screwed. It's the it's the company that's gonna get screwed.
[01:15:30] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:15:31] Bryan Goodwin:
And that's, that's gonna piss me the hell off because then all of a sudden, I'm gonna be on the lookout for any dot, and I'm gonna be having to do scaled, dodges because they're always gonna be bringing us in around back to go, hey. We need to look a little closer at something.
[01:15:48] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:15:49] Bryan Goodwin:
And so I'm not his biggest fan.
[01:15:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, I don't blame you. I win.
[01:15:57] Bryan Goodwin:
But at the same time, I mean, I don't understand why he does it because he'll like like I said, there's times that, like on on, say, like, a Monday morning. He's picked up his load Friday. He's set all weekend. So Monday morning, he gets up at 1 o'clock, drives to Dallas, or say to Dallas, and he'll get to where he needs to be. It'll be 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning. And so he'll go he'll park, and he'll sleep there until it's time to get unloaded, which is usually about 8. Okay. So he wastes 5 hours of his time so that he could be there first.
Knowing damn good and well that most of the places aren't gonna start actually taking trucks in until 8 o'clock. So it would be better for you time wise if you were to get up and you were to, you know, dry know that it takes you, say, 3 hours to get to, to get to Dallas from from Duke. Mhmm. So get up and at 5 o'clock, drive there and get there at about 8, 8:30, depending on traffic. Might even get there at, at 7:7, 7:30 because, you know, who knows about traffic. And you saved 5 hours for you to be able to drive.
[01:17:26] Rich Chelson:
Now let me ask you this. Do you know if he runs a split sleeper?
[01:17:31] Bryan Goodwin:
No one knows how to run the fucking split sleeper on this on on this around here. I don't even know how to run the fucking split sleeper.
[01:17:40] Rich Chelson:
You know you know, it was funny because back in my days of running paper logs, I could run a split sleeper and be just fine.
[01:17:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Never run Well, I thought so too because I always thought it was, like, 6 hours and then 4 hours. Yeah. Or No. I I've I've tried that on on Mars and it's like, yep. No idea. Yeah. You still don't have enough time. You gotta go ahead and set now. It's like, fucking shit. Goddamn. Because y'all had the boss go try to try to do it. He's like, hey. Just go ahead and split sleeper, for whatever what we were trying to do. And, tried it. Yep. Yep. I got up after that first 6 hours, and it was like going, yep. Congratulations. You've only got, 4 hours left on your, on your, you know, on your duty time or whatever. It's like
[01:18:27] Rich Chelson:
Well, see, the thing is now okay. You see, what they did is fucking change it with these electronic logs where and, this was when they were starting to go to the elogs and stuff. They made it with the, split sleeper cake because, before, you know, we could do 5 and 5. And and and we'd have our 10 hours. But you see, when we started making these changes and with the Elogues, it's a minimum of 8. You can only do an 8 and 2, which sucks. And it screwed and it screwed split sleeper up because when I was running paper logs, at the times I was running legal, I could run 5 on, 5 off, 5 on, 5 off.
And, technically, I could log over 20 hours a day legally. Right. Okay. Because I for every 5 hours, I was canceling them off. I can make it further across country faster than someone who was doing the regular, you know
[01:19:39] Bryan Goodwin:
10 hours. 14 or, 14:10.
[01:19:42] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? And and everything. But, yeah, when they started making changes and started doing these z logs, that was when they changed the the split sleeper to 8 hours minimum, either the 1st round or the 2nd round. And that's what fucked everybody up. And, apparently, they haven't fixed it. Nope. Okay. Well, do you know?
[01:20:09] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, yeah. So then the rest of the week, what he does is he'll drive and he'll go until he gets to wherever it is he needs to go. And that's when he shuts down, but it's, I mean, he he's usually is up trying to trying to go about 7 or 8 o'clock in the morning, and he just showed up. It's 8 o'clock. So this time, he'll he'll actually have a he'll have 10 barely 10 hours whenever he pulls in in there. Of course, I mean, we when we pull into where we're going, we don't, we don't have to I mean, I I don't I don't go on duty until I see people starting to pull, pull bundles off me because, well, why waste the, waste the time?
But, but, I mean and I don't know how how this guy does it, but most of the time, we all wait until we get inside. But, but, yeah, once he and now granted this is Friday, so once he's done, he's gonna he's probably gonna shag ass to the, to over to Duke, grab his, preload for, or get himself loaded for for Monday. But all through the week, he'll, there's times he'll get there 10 o'clock at night. And after driving, you know, driving from, from, like, Jefferson all the way up here. There's times he'll get up get here at, like, 10 o'clock at night. And, yeah, he'll he'll get up and be moving again at, at, at 7, 8 o'clock in the morning, which, again, 8 o'clock in the morning is right there on time. But still, I mean, you're you're burning through your through your time more time than than than not. So I don't understand what his what his logic is Other than let's let's try let's let's try to make sure that we that the, not the the log book is is as as much of a as close to a funny page as possible because, I mean Yeah. It's not doing not doing you any, doing him any harm because, you know, there's this wonderful tool called PC.
[01:22:39] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They've got rules again set to it Mhmm. What I've heard. You know? And and you see, that's the thing. What if what if 6, 8 months down the line, the DOT comes into y'all's office.
[01:22:53] Bryan Goodwin:
In audits.
[01:22:54] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And does an audit and say, hey. Let me look at this old boys. I mean, they can hang him out to dry even back then. They Oh, yeah. They can find a mistake back then or find a violation, and, yeah, it just snowballs after that. You know?
[01:23:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. I mean, hell, they can they can go through there and look and see the number of miles that he's run and see if he's been speeding.
[01:23:26] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[01:23:28] Bryan Goodwin:
They can throw they can throw, you know, speeding tie tickets at him. Yep. I mean, they're Oh, even even after the fact? I even after the yeah. That's sour.
[01:23:40] Rich Chelson:
I remember I remember I remember this one time. I I was I was I was running across highway 90 up up in Montana. Right? And, there's this little restaurant truck stop, right outside of Haugen, Montana. And, I mean, it's it's a small I mean, nowhere place out there, but, I mean, it's a decent sized truck stop restaurant. And I stopped there, got some fuel, made sure logbook was caught up because a half mile up the road is a scale house, and it's always open. Always open. And I knew it. So I stopped. I got everything straight, which I wasn't that far behind. Luckily, at that time, I I wasn't that far behind.
The logbook was, yeah, a lie, but but I made it look pretty. Okay? Anyway, I pull out, get up there, and that old boy says, I can't remember who I was running for at the time. But, he freaking pulled me out. I was pulling reefer or van, but that old boy pulled me in sure as shit. And so I go in there, and, I go in there with my registration and stuff. He just looks at me, and he says, house. He's like, you know what I wanna see. Alright. I'll be right back. And I did, but I was I was being a smart ass. Right? Hoping I was gonna get off of that. No. So I went, got my logbook and shit, came back in with it.
And, now, mind you, this was oh, fuck. What? Late nineties? Yeah. Late nineties, early 2000. Okay. So it wasn't the time of v logs or anything yet. In fact in fact, Werner was the only stupid company that had fucking v logs because they sucked the DOT's dick. Said, oh, we'll do it. We'll do it. Right. They did, basically, because the DOT came out with it in the late eighties, early nineties, and Werner was the first company said sign us up. We we will, pilot run the e logs. They did. So but either way, I don't like Werner, but I won't go there. Anyway, this old boy is looking through my logbook, and he's adding up the hours and all like this. And, at this one time well, during this time, I was I was writing my mileages on my logbook grid, you know, between my hours of driving.
You know? Because I was I was making sure the DOT could look at my shit and know that, you know, I I took this long ago, a 198 miles. You know, 200 miles or whatever, 250. And, this old boy had a program on his computer at the time. He could check my mileage right there on his computer. If I said it was a 198 miles, he checked it. And I was just like, I had never seen that shit. And I'm like, excuse me? He's like, yeah. I can I can every mileage you put on here, I can check? And he checked a few of them. Thank god I was right. You know? And because because when he checked it, it would not only give him the miles that he got or that he could verify with the miles that I had written, but he could also verify the time.
You know. And, of course, they had, you know, what's that word I'm looking for?
[01:27:36] Duuude-Ron :
Fuck. Yeah. Just for califragilisticexpialidocious?
[01:27:40] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That word. That word. No. Basically, head limits, you know, before or after, you know, that that were acceptable. You know, like like, if I marked 4 and a half hours for for a 150 miles or whatever.
[01:28:00] Bryan Goodwin:
You're talking about, like, a tolerance? Tolerance. Thank you. There it is. Ding ding ding ding.
[01:28:06] Rich Chelson:
See See, I couldn't take that word for the laugh of me, but but, yeah, there was there was a few that his eyebrow kinda raised on. Okay. But he did write me no ticket. But, yeah, that was the first time I had ever seen that in a DOT. Like I said, this place is out in the middle of fucking nowhere. And I'm like, you have that ability. He's like, yes, sir. I was like, holy cow. That's unreal.
[01:28:37] Duuude-Ron :
But yeah. And you're talking about okay. Your time, your distance with him calculating it up could write you a speeding ticket?
[01:28:48] Rich Chelson:
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. If if if I was speeding on my log, yes, sir. He could have wrote me a speeding ticket right there on the spot. Yep. Just just like just like if the DOT goes into Brian's company's office and does an audit and find Brian was speeding on this day during this section of time, they could write Brian a speeding ticket right on the Yep. If they saw that I had gone 852
[01:29:18] Bryan Goodwin:
miles in a 10 hour period Oh, yeah. They no. You see that that would be a kind of a giveaway that, oh, this dude's been doing about, about 82 miles on average. So yeah. Yeah. Little faster than, and and you went across you went across, Kansas? Yeah. Well, we can't let you have that because, you know, we definitely know that that Kansas doesn't allow for for, for 80 mile an hour driving because, you know, well, that's Kansas. They like to trap you there. So they want you to stay in Kansas as long as possible. I think it stays still 55 miles an hour in the backcountry.
[01:29:55] Rich Chelson:
No. It's it's it's like 65 on the back roads. Oh, thank god. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. But but the interstates, I think, are, 70 or 75 in Kansas. Kansas? Yeah. You're right. Kansas doesn't have any interstates. They have one.
[01:30:13] Bryan Goodwin:
They have one. It covers, like, 5 miles.
[01:30:17] Duuude-Ron :
It's a little closer. 35. Well, it's only going north and south. 35.
[01:30:22] Rich Chelson:
No. They've got 70 going east and west, guys.
[01:30:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Does it dip down in the kit? Yeah. It does, doesn't it? Yeah.
[01:30:30] Rich Chelson:
You leave Kansas City, get into Kansas, and it's 420 miles of nothing. And believe me, I would drive it as fast as humanly possible.
[01:30:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. At night.
[01:30:44] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Exactly. At night. Don't do it during the fucking day. Oh, hell no. My god. You freaking shoot yourself.
[01:30:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Twice. Watching a foot and watching a brain.
[01:30:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. But yeah. No, dude. Seriously, DOT can write you a ticket off your logbook and go back at least 6 months and still write you a ticket. And and, like, like, those mishaps that you had or, you know, you know, couple months ago.
[01:31:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I was not talking about that. No. I no. I'm just saying.
[01:31:26] Bryan Goodwin:
No. That's a little sore spot. It was not hot. Right. Other other ideas. Other ideas.
[01:31:34] Duuude-Ron :
No. Go ahead. Go ahead.
[01:31:37] Rich Chelson:
So you know if, if, the, DOT came in and, checked your log book at that time and saw you were speeding, they could go back. And and if and if someone had been hurt, their lawyers would have gotten all of your logs and had them audited. And if they found any violation whatsoever, they could argue for their client that you should not have been there at that point in time. And even though even though it was their client's fault, 100%, point blank clear, if they find one violation on your load book in the past 6 months, they can get it argued out to where,
[01:32:24] Bryan Goodwin:
you were at fault, not their client. Yeah. I don't know if I don't know how much true. I just remember being told this, this story, but that, that a, that a guy was, was driving through through some town when a drunk driver ran up on him Mhmm. And got himself killed. And because he was actually driving beyond what his time was, he actually went to jail. Yep.
[01:32:57] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Yeah. No. I've I've no. I've heard I've heard stories like that over the years, talked to a few different lawyers. And, yeah, they've they've told me yeah. They and, and a few companies, you know, the bigger companies, if you talk with the safety guys, yeah, they yeah. They're like, no. This is no bullshit. Yes. Because that's the thing. Even though the driver was driving over his time, legally, he should not have been at that point in time where that drunk driver was at. And if you stop and think about it, they're right.
[01:33:38] Duuude-Ron :
Well yeah. So
[01:33:41] Rich Chelson:
so the accident is, preventable. So, therefore, it would go on the driver for 1 minimum. You know?
[01:33:54] Duuude-Ron :
Well, and that's why I don't fuck around with my Right. My logbook. I and I never have. Right. But, again, we are yeah. When you can, with your paper log, yeah, you could, if you wanted to, could, you know, write some stuff that of where you're at and this and that. Yeah. But with mine, I'm a it's a 14:10:11 hours driving within that 14 hours.
[01:34:30] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:34:31] Duuude-Ron :
End of discussion.
[01:34:33] Rich Chelson:
Right?
[01:34:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Yep. That's that's your normal normal stuff. Now if you if, like, now and I'm actually kinda surprised that y'all do that because I thought y'all were stayed within a 100 the 150 mile an hour, 150 mile range. So y'all were y'all were actually able to do no log books 12 by 12.
[01:34:53] Duuude-Ron :
Well, in theory in theory, a 150
[01:34:59] Bryan Goodwin:
air miles. Yeah. Yeah. As a crowbar.
[01:35:03] Duuude-Ron :
We do not have to run a logbook, period. Right. That that's by DOT. By my company, you better have your shit down to the 15 minute to the 15 minute mark. Right. To the quarter hour mark, you better have your shit. When you stop, say, okay. When I when I came into work, you know, the first hour is always gonna be me doing a pre trip and getting ready for the day just to haul, and if the load is up on the truck. Right. But still, if the load is up on the truck, it's gonna take me anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour to verify that load to my paperwork.
Or when I have to run up to GP, I have to write down everything that now my truck is loaded with the cylinders, but I have to go and write up my load for them to generate the paperwork. So that's gonna that's gonna be an hour to an hour and a half right there just Right. Confirm and load. And then after the paperwork is done generated, then I go back and reverify to make sure there isn't any errors. Because I'll be damned if on my hazmat, I'm carrying, a 150 oxygen cylinders, and there's a 155 physically on the truck. Well, that is that could put me they theoretically, they can put me out of service until my my hazmat is corrected, but it's already on the fucking ticket out of service.
Right. Whether it took me 2 seconds to correct it, I was put out of service, period. So, you know, that's just me and my load count. I'm always gonna be a 100%. Now I can have a 150 cylinders on the truck of oxygen and only have 15 physical cylinders, and I'm good. As long as my number is over but not 0, I'm in compliance. But if my count is lower than my physical inventory, I'm out of compliance.
[01:37:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:37:54] Duuude-Ron :
So, no, I I always try to have a spot on 100% because, you know, some DOT, they they see one error and, of course, they're gonna start digging up all into your other paperwork, which which all my paperwork, I always make sure is a 100%. Why? Because they will do it. I haven't had that situation happen yet, but I got one DPS officer that every time he has stopped me, and he has stopped me a total of 3 times, will get up on my truck and look at my labels every single time. I'm like, you know, fine. Look away. Knock yourself out.
[01:38:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, shoot. Do that. A news that I heard that just jumped in my head that I completely forgot about until now. Just, some, tell me what y'all think of this. I saw this, actually saw it on over on, over on Facebook, Babylon Bee was, not the not the bee, which is their their non parody site, satire site. The Onion. You know what The Onion is. Right?
[01:39:12] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:39:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. How about you, Ron? A white a white. The Onion, website is a satire website. They would they one of the more famous, famous headlines they actually that went off and did was, like, 3 killed in Cola Wars, you know, that type of thing. They would just makes make up good kinda like the Babylon Bee, except it was except it was of just in general satire.
[01:39:43] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. No.
[01:39:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, this Yeah. They The Onion's well known,
[01:39:49] Rich Chelson:
They don't make Saturday night live.
[01:39:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Except they're except as a website. And and yeah. And they just did satire. They just made fun of anything and everything around. Pop culture and and whatnot.
[01:40:04] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. I I can I can relate now that Rich said Saturday night live watching because I used to watch it when it was actually live? When it was funny. Yeah.
[01:40:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Hey. Hey, Brian. Think eighties, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Eighties. When when you're talking with Ron, always always always take it back to me. To the eighties.
[01:40:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Prefer to the eighties.
[01:40:26] Rich Chelson:
Dude can get it then.
[01:40:28] Bryan Goodwin:
So but they went off and bought Alex Jones Jones's InfoWars.
[01:40:36] Rich Chelson:
I just I just saw that earlier this afternoon, actually.
[01:40:40] Bryan Goodwin:
So I was holy crow, man. Talk about, talk about which is, I mean, it's funny because I mean, you know, they can they can sue Alec Joe and they have. They've sued him. He's he I think they they successfully sued him for a $1,000,000,000 or something like that. 500,000,000. Yeah. 1 and a half $1,000,000,000. Is what I read. Stupid insane amount of money. Alright? So they've taken Infowars, which is probably now only worth about $500,000, maybe a couple million. But, you know, still nowhere near the, you know, the one and a half $1,000,000,000 that he owes the Sandy Hook family because they they got their their butts hurt because they wanted to they they wanted to to, wanted to have somebody they could crucify and the only person they could think of was somebody who was just making up making up shit as he went went along.
And so he he never actually said that, the, said the stuff they claimed that he said. Now he said that it was probably an inside job, but at the same time they they wouldn't, the the newspaper don't report on that. They just report on on the stuff that actually wasn't, wasn't the truth. But, but at the same time, I mean, it Alex Jones is Alex Jones. I mean, I he was whether you like him or not. But thing is is, I mean, yeah, they can they can go off and piecemeal all his shit, to pieces if that's what they wanna do. And if they were if they were smart, they would have they would have just said taken, well, we're gonna take half of what you make until we make the $1,500,000,000 and just let him keep going whole hog.
[01:42:53] Rich Chelson:
Thing is, though,
[01:42:55] Bryan Goodwin:
their goal was to shut him down. Oh, no. Their goal was to shut him down. That and and just to get some money because, you know, hell, the the the lawyers took half of there or took, now they're they're allowed up to a third of the 1,500,000,000. So, yeah, that was a huge payout for the lawyers. Lawyers like, oh, yeah, man. I get new cars. Everyone's we got Christmas this year. You know? Instead of jelly of the month club. Yeah. Yeah. They're not getting jelly. It fucked that jelly of the month clubs yet. Yeah. They're getting they're they're they're actually gonna be getting some decent bonuses and stuff, except the I mean, again, they have to wait for Alex to pay, so it's gonna come in a little bit by bit. But
[01:43:39] Rich Chelson:
But still know. You know, early in the early nineties when I started listening to Alex Jones, honestly, when he was smaller because this was this was before Infowars took off. And and, I mean, he would actually show you where he got his information. Yeah. Yeah. He he would show receipts.
[01:44:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Well He was well known for doing that. Well, no. I'm not saying receipts. I mean Well, that's what the evidence. He would show you the evidence. That's what when I say showing receipts of what No. What I'm saying is he would show you the actual website
[01:44:17] Rich Chelson:
about the information he was talking about Yeah. Or or the newspaper or or whatever. He would show you where he got the acts, and and you could actually go look it up yourself and read exactly what he was reading.
[01:44:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly.
[01:44:34] Rich Chelson:
And, honestly, if you ask me, money got to his head, and he stopped doing that. And then and then I saw I saw the over the years, I saw I saw I started seeing, different videos posted by regular people that were actually recording, and this was when phones got popular with cameras. And they were throwing them up on YouTube and stuff and other sites where, I mean, it honestly looked like Alex Jones was staging all this shit. Right. And that well, I had I had I had stepped out of everything by then because it it was just, you know I mean, I was I was in everything so hard. It was unreal. But, yeah, I'd see a, you know, I'd see a video or 2, and, it was like it was like, dude, you never used to be like this ever.
You know? Because, I mean, I mean, the shit he showed, like I said, was actually being reported on in in the early days. And I think I think I think it was just the money that freaking got to its head. You know? Right. That's just my opinion, though. But in a way, yeah, you know, if if they'd, you know, let him keep going, but but told him to go back to the way he used to do it, I think it would have been better. You know, like like because, like, when we had Rush Limbaugh, Rush Limbaugh would do the same thing. He would show you where he got a lot of his information in the early Absolutely. Yeah.
You know, and and and and, you know, other commentators. And it just, you know, it just like, yeah, Alex Jones just, yeah, went off the deep end, man, I think. And it was sad because, I mean, a lot of the shit he was saying, I was agreeing with because I could read it for myself. But that's my opinion.
[01:47:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Here's here's where, Alex Jones was actually talking with Glenn Beck. I'll send, I'll send a link to that, to it over to you, Rich. And, also send it as a, as a link for the, for the show notes.
[01:47:17] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:47:19] Bryan Goodwin:
But but if you have a chance to listen to that, that's, that was actually a really fascinating, interview that Glenn did with, with Alex.
[01:47:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I knew I knew I knew Alex knew knew, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck. Yeah. But, you know, I didn't know. Were they friends? Or
[01:47:45] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I think it's just acquaintances knowing each other type of thing.
[01:47:49] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Because, yeah, you know, and and see, that's the thing. You know? I I don't know. It shocked me when I saw, Alex Jones on his show, and, you know, he was, you know, showing the websites, you know, websites and stuff he was finding. I I'm just like, oh my god. Finally, someone who's who's actually giving us the information and, you know, instead of force feeding us this bullshit and then with nothing to back it up with. Right. And and this was in the early nineties. Okay? This was early in in, the early nineties. And it's like, man, that's nice.
But, yeah, the the whole Sandy Hook thing, he I think he took quite far. He shoulda hit on that then left left it alone, but he didn't.
[01:49:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I really didn't I wasn't paying much attention to him at that time. I took,
[01:49:09] Rich Chelson:
I was,
[01:49:12] Bryan Goodwin:
I listened to him about the time that he, when he was talking about, well, back in 20 tens when I was listening to him. Listened to him for about, 2, 3 months, and that and then came across a show where he was talking about how the, doctors actually don't do, take the, Hippocratic oath anymore. And, and, scared the bejesus out of me. And so I was like, never mind. We ain't, we ain't doing this stuff no more. So Yeah.
[01:49:45] Rich Chelson:
We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. I don't yeah. See, I didn't know that. I mean, that's something doctors have always done as long as I can remember.
[01:50:05] Bryan Goodwin:
It's a come now.
[01:50:11] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. Does anybody have a Bitcoin to spare?
[01:50:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, I know. Eighty's well, it got up to 88,000 there for a bit. Really?
[01:50:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, wow.
[01:50:24] Bryan Goodwin:
So and it's, it's up to, oh, nope. Wrong wrong one. That's Stash. Yeah. It's it's setting at well, no. It's setting at 88,000 still. So
[01:50:35] Rich Chelson:
I was gonna say last time I saw it, it was No. No. Actually, it got as high as 91,000.
[01:50:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. 91766. And that was, like, the day or 2 days after, after our our, our esteemed president got elected.
[01:50:58] Rich Chelson:
I can believe it. You watch. You watch. The, Bitcoin's gonna hit a 100,000.
[01:51:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Oh, it will. Without a doubt. You know, it's too bad that I didn't know about cryptocurrency and, you know, when Bitcoin started out at 6¢. 21.
[01:51:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Was it 6¢? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It got And in o nine. O nine. Wasn't it o nine, Brian?
[01:51:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It was 2009. Oh, yeah. See, the farthest that I can go back on on, coin base is 2013, and that was a $106. Oh, no. Hang on. Yeah. Oh, no. It it started out it it shows the low of being 6¢.
[01:51:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Too bad I didn't know about it back then. Oh, yeah.
[01:51:51] Bryan Goodwin:
That guy that went off and spent 10,010,000 Bitcoin on a pizza is probably feeling like an asshole right now.
[01:51:58] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. Back in 0 9 Yeah. It was, it was started. See. What was this original price? God, I can't spell.
[01:52:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Oin. Oin. It's bit oin. Oin.
[01:52:26] Rich Chelson:
I wish it was that easy. I was I was thinking about original.
[01:52:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh.
[01:52:34] Rich Chelson:
And, I mean, I know I know how to spell it, but let's see. Oh, wow. See, it says the transaction that first gave Bitcoin monetary value was in October of 09 when Finnish computer scientist or science student, Marti Maummi, known online as Sirius, sold 5,050 coins for $5.2, giving each Bitcoin a value of 0.0009.
[01:53:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:53:19] Rich Chelson:
And so yeah. Yeah. It started out less than a penny. Way less than a penny. Yep. And look at it. The highest it got was 91,000 Yep. Change. That's crazy. And then, yeah, this, Florida guy inquired whether anyone would order him 2 pizzas for 10,000 Bitcoin. Yeah. And they purchased the 2 pizzas from Papa John's worth about $41, and the pry and the price of each Bitcoin came to 0.0041. And now today, they would be worth, $200,000,000 today. That's crazy. Damn. Right? Yeah. Yeah. If we'd have known that in 09, hate to say you, gentlemen, but we probably wouldn't be knowing each other.
[01:54:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Probably not. Sure we would. We'd be. We'd We we would be talking to each other in person in the Bahamas because, you know, why not? We would just all fly down there just to do the show and then fly back. So
[01:54:39] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Fly down for 3 hours, do a show, and then fly back home.
[01:54:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[01:54:48] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, hell no. I'd stay in the night and freaking go hang out on the beach. Are you kidding me? I'd fly back the next day. This is fun. Oh, it'd be maybe not. Maybe not. I'd probably stay till Sunday. You know, seeing as how this is a Thursday night and have a 3 day weekend down in the Bahamas.
[01:55:07] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, dude Oh, yeah. You would be you would be a multimillionaire, so you could stay down there for a month. You know? Well, yeah. Hypothetically. No. You really could.
[01:55:25] Bryan Goodwin:
And you stay down there for a month and it wouldn't scratch your wallet at all.
[01:55:30] Rich Chelson:
No. Oh, no. I mean I mean, seriously, couple $100,000,000 worth. Literally, couple $100,000,000 worth of value. What do you have to take care of, in a month? Because all of your bills are paid. So, I mean, you could go down there for a month at a time.
[01:55:59] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I don't know. I'd have to probably come back and get all the coins out of my, out of all the machines for the, laundromats that I own. Seems, Dude. Well, shit. How many people do you need in a laundromat? Dude, you hire people to do that for you. No. No. No. Well, yeah. But well, I wouldn't even have to do that because you really don't need anybody in a laundromat. Well, somebody come in and clean the machines and clean the premises. So, you know, you could have a cleaning cleaning crew to come and do that.
[01:56:33] Rich Chelson:
Hire it out. Yeah. I mean, shoot. I mean, get the machines that, you know, take your debit card because believe me, everything takes a fucking debit card nowadays.
[01:56:47] Duuude-Ron :
And what's that coin that backs that I've been looking at? It's, that backs Apple Pay. Shit. It's gonna be the next well, they say it's gonna be the next big Bitcoin. Right now, it just reached a dollar today per coin.
[01:57:12] Bryan Goodwin:
That sounds like a stable coin.
[01:57:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And I don't remember the name of the I mean, there's the USDC,
[01:57:23] Bryan Goodwin:
but, I mean, that's
[01:57:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Say that. I I didn't know I didn't know Apple Pay was being backed by anything.
[01:57:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I didn't either.
[01:57:34] Rich Chelson:
I just thought, it says Apple Pay does not have a specific coin that backs it. Oh, it's yeah. USDC, basically,
[01:57:51] Bryan Goodwin:
is what is what backs it. Yeah. So it's just a stable coin?
[01:57:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:57:57] Bryan Goodwin:
I ain't got nothing wrong about it here.
[01:58:01] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Because it no. I it's I mean, it won't it won't ever go over a dollar
[01:58:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:58:07] Rich Chelson:
Ever. But but that just, you know, having having having that stable coin for Apple Pay kinda lends, credibility to Apple Pay. So
[01:58:29] Duuude-Ron :
let's see what is not Bitcoin. Trying to find the one that Why even brought it up? I can't fucking actually reference shit of what I'm talking about.
[01:58:59] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean?
[01:59:02] Duuude-Ron :
The one particular coin. Let's see.
[01:59:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. If it's USD coin, which is USDC, yeah, that's that's just a, that just, stands at a dollar. It might vary a penny either way, but it it, doesn't go far on that.
[01:59:45] Duuude-Ron :
Oh gosh. Trying to find the actual name of the coin. Okay. But you guys can talk until I find the name of the damn coin that I'm looking for.
[02:00:14] Bryan Goodwin:
No. We wanna sit here in silence to just put a little pressure on you.
[02:00:18] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, gee. Thanks a lot. What a buddy. What a buddy.
[02:00:23] Bryan Goodwin:
I'd tell you. I gotta gotta make sure you you, you know, you're you're all good there.
[02:00:30] Rich Chelson:
So,
[02:00:32] Bryan Goodwin:
So
[02:00:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Is I I I haven't looked into any more crypto lately. I mean, I've got I've got my I've noticed I've noticed my Satoshis have have increased in value. Oh, yeah.
[02:00:51] Duuude-Ron :
They
[02:00:52] Rich Chelson:
have really increased in value.
[02:00:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Doubled in value there.
[02:00:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, in my obi wallet, I had, here. That's that's being stupid. Oh, crap. Okay. Now we're good. Okay. Yes. Oh my god. I've lost $4 today.
[02:01:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Aw. What what?
[02:01:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. My my sats, I've got 236,707 sats. Right?
[02:01:27] Bryan Goodwin:
K.
[02:01:28] Rich Chelson:
And as of, say, what was it, last week or the week before last, it was worth about a 165, $167. It's now worth $209.40. I mean, it's it's, you know, it's freaking jumped up. I'm like, oh my god. That's crazy.
[02:01:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, shoot. Yeah. I didn't realize you were streaming over to me.
[02:01:54] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean?
[02:01:56] Bryan Goodwin:
I got, Grumpy Rich, true fan fan stream from, leave the cannoli, take the whoopie.
[02:02:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That that was the other day. So That was, Monday.
[02:02:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. That was Monday.
[02:02:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was, yeah, I was, yeah, I was sitting on the front porch drinking coffee, and it's like, you know what? Let me listen to our our episode. And, of course, Trufans will automatically ask if you wanna stream. And I'm like, sure. What the hell? And so I streamed and, sent a couple of boostograms and everything. But I have not been able to see where I got any of this that share.
[02:02:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Let's see.
[02:02:58] Rich Chelson:
Because I spent some money, man. Yeah. I know. I think I spent, like, $3.20
[02:03:05] Bryan Goodwin:
for the 3 whole 3 hours. I was gonna say 6, 6 sets a a minute. So
[02:03:12] Duuude-Ron :
Not true. Well, I found my the found the information that I was looking for.
[02:03:16] Rich Chelson:
Okay. XRP. XRP.
[02:03:22] Duuude-Ron :
XRP runs on the Ripple network, which has been described as a cryptocurrency or cryptocurrency for banks because of the tailor made to service the needs of financial institutions of moving money, convenience of the way that facilitates international payments, XRTX is a bridge between the 2 different concern currencies to offer a cheaper, quicker global means of transfer. Yeah. XRP XRP started out at, yeah, below a cent and it hit a dollar today. And they're saying that that is the next, coin to be, that's gonna have a huge significant play in the current or in the cryptocurrency market from what I've heard on different sites that I've been on.
[02:04:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. I was gonna say, I mean, that's and it probably will since it's being used as a as a as a, as an exchange type of, type of coin. I mean, it may it may become fairly, fairly popular, but yeah. I mean, I was gonna say, if it's if we're talking value wise, I mean, they've just got Ethereum and Litecoin. They still have to fight through. I mean, Litecoin's the, the kind of the the budget, crypto coin, or popular crypto coin. It's the 3rd most popular one round, and it's, it's sitting at $82 a a coin. Well While, Ethereum is at 3,000 right now, dropping.
It's gone down almost 4%. There's from, from what? So yes. 4% from, this time last, last night. So I guess in a 24 hour day.
[02:05:29] Rich Chelson:
Why is it dropping so hard?
[02:05:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, who knows? Because it's a it's crypto, and and no one knows why it does what it does.
[02:05:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. But, yeah, XRP, that's I mean, I remember when it come out, but I really didn't look at it because, honestly, I didn't take it seriously.
[02:05:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:05:52] Rich Chelson:
Kinda shocked that it's up at well, it's saying it well. It just It it say It started
[02:05:59] Duuude-Ron :
I believe it started at 6¢ a coin, and it's up to a dollar.
[02:06:05] Bryan Goodwin:
It's it's dropped down to 82¢ as at the moment. But and that's within the last, within the day. It has gone from at the lowest in the 24 last 24 hours, it was 68¢, has gone up to 86¢. It has dropped by half a point in the last hour. It's up 17.78% in the last 24 hours. 49.19%, positive in last week, 49.66% than the last for the, for the month, 26% in the year, And, it is up 13.8 1000%, out of when this first started, though. That has gotten as high as $3.84, but that was back in 2017.
[02:07:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. And I knew that it would it at one point in time, based upon its start price, it had shot up and went and dropped considerably. But with it, being the blockchain tethered to I don't remember what it's tethered to for the currency movable. Yeah. If I had about $100,000 right now, I'd buy me, XRP and fit on it.
[02:07:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, let's see. Even if you took $500, that'd give you 410 XRP, and that's at 82¢. That's that's at the current price. See, if it went up to,
[02:07:57] Duuude-Ron :
well, if I if I even if I had $500
[02:08:07] Rich Chelson:
Say say 410. Let's say it went back up to $3. I'd have
[02:08:12] Duuude-Ron :
I'd have 609 coins. At 82¢, if I invested $500, I'd have 609 coins.
[02:08:21] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Okay. Okay. So 609 coins times $3.18 a coin. You'd be almost at $2,000 just with that.
[02:08:35] Duuude-Ron :
And that's a Yeah. But if I cents. Right. But if I buy it at 82¢ and eventually it hits $1,000 a coin.
[02:08:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. You know? It's $6,000.
[02:08:47] Duuude-Ron :
No. That's 600,000.
[02:08:56] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Say it's late. My brain Yeah. My brain is trying to stop working.
[02:09:06] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shit. I did that at noon. What the hell are you talking about? But yeah. Most day most most days, it stops about
[02:09:18] Rich Chelson:
noon, 1 o'clock anyway.
[02:09:26] Duuude-Ron :
Then I'm just on autopilot. Flying around kinda like a drone.
[02:09:36] Rich Chelson:
See, that's the thing. You know? I you know, when when I was getting my roof done, me and Chad were talking, and Chad said, you know, he's got some crypto and everything like this. Right? And, you know, and for me, it seems like when I buy crypto, you know, whatever, and and I'm gonna sit and hold on to it, it tanks. You know? I buy it cheap, and I'm sitting on it. I'm not spending it, not moving it, not doing anything. And then next thing you know, you know, I might get I might get a $150, right, worth. And then next thing you know, I'm, like, at $50, and it stays there. It tanks.
Mhmm. That's Yeah. That's why I stopped buying crypto. Because every time it did, it would tank. And then, oh, no. The markets are readjusting. And then it's it's like, well, I ain't got no freaking money left. And the markets never come back up, and it's like, I lose my money, so it's like, why the fuck buy crypto? You know? I ain't got $10,000 to, you know, spend on crypto.
[02:10:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:10:54] Rich Chelson:
But Pretty nice though. I've got my stock in Tesla.
[02:11:02] Duuude-Ron :
I've got.
[02:11:04] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Seriously. I do. Oh, I know you do. I know you do.
[02:11:08] Rich Chelson:
I mean, it's not much, but, I mean, it's worth, I forgot actually what it's worth because, I just I just looked at it the other day. I had to get, my one app that I had on my other phone because I hadn't downloaded it on this one. Oh, shit. I lost $5 today. But, see, I've got what doesn't tell me how many shares I have. I don't think I even have one share of Tesla yet because I only have $99.36. Oh, wait. I've got 0.3193 of a share.
[02:12:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. A little bit.
[02:12:09] Rich Chelson:
I gotta stop.
[02:12:11] Duuude-Ron :
How much did you have again?
[02:12:14] Rich Chelson:
Point 3 193 of a share.
[02:12:17] Duuude-Ron :
Well, he almost got a third of a share.
[02:12:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Almost. Almost. Yeah. It's it, it's at $311.18 a share. So, I mean, I mean, eventually, I can get it up to one full share, and then I could take advantage if if if the price went up, but price would really have to go up.
[02:12:41] Duuude-Ron :
Man, you'd almost, have enough to go to one of those, Tesla banquets.
[02:12:49] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[02:12:52] Duuude-Ron :
You know, get to be able to wine and dine with the big wigs and get a little bit of champagne and caviar and all with your one share.
[02:13:04] Rich Chelson:
You know, I think I'll pass. I'm not a champagne kind of guy. Just saying. I ain't sure about caviar either, but I would try the caviar before I I drink champagne. That's for sure. I I never Well I never had been a fan of, champagne.
[02:13:28] Duuude-Ron :
Well, maybe they'll have a little bit of moonshine there.
[02:13:33] Rich Chelson:
Gosh. Yeah. Give me a soda. I'd be happy. Tiny bubble.
[02:13:41] Duuude-Ron :
You're not lying.
[02:13:44] Rich Chelson:
Makes me happy.
[02:13:46] Bryan Goodwin:
All the time.
[02:13:49] Duuude-Ron :
God. I have not heard that cadence since in Jesus.
[02:13:56] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[02:13:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, since the eighties. I've got you know what? I don't even think I heard that after basic training. I I can remember.
[02:14:14] Rich Chelson:
I heard it at my, first duty station. We were in, we we had to march somewhere, which was rare, but we did. And, someone started singing tiny bubbles. I about busted a gut right there in formation.
[02:14:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I no. I I take that back. I think I heard it when we were marching going to because every year, the 82nd has all American week. The week before Memorial Day weekend. Okay. And that Thursday, because we're all we were always off on Friday. That Thursday morning, we had division review. And that's 12,000 soldiers standing on Pike Field. Man, that was a pain in the ass. But I remember I think I remember listening to that cadence as we were marching down or back to the battalion area from division review, I think, is the last time I heard that cadence.
[02:15:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's it was always funny to me. I was I was I I'd always laugh at it.
[02:15:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It just Shit. I I left the 82nd in 90 1998, I think, is when I left there.
[02:15:39] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:15:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. 98 because I spent a little over 11 years. Got there in 87. Now 10 years because I had a a break in a year in Korea.
[02:15:57] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:16:01] Duuude-Ron :
Good times. Well, that all depends on perspective too.
[02:16:07] Rich Chelson:
I had a good time in South Korea. Every night in the ville.
[02:16:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I didn't. That fucking Korea sucked for me.
[02:16:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean I mean, I yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I see.
[02:16:24] Duuude-Ron :
It all depended upon your marital status too.
[02:16:27] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. See, I was single. So
[02:16:30] Duuude-Ron :
That yeah. So you had a fucking ball. Right.
[02:16:37] Rich Chelson:
Did your wife go with you over to South Korea? No. No? Okay. No.
[02:16:45] Duuude-Ron :
I also had a 2 year old at the time.
[02:16:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[02:16:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So Korea kinda sucked. And, you know, when we went down to the Ville, I was always the designated walker.
[02:17:05] Rich Chelson:
You know? It's always good to have have that. A des have a designated walker. Yep. I'm telling you there was many time I was never picked for the designated walker because everybody knew I wasn't gonna be able to fucking walk.
[02:17:25] Duuude-Ron :
And you know what was always funny is if, the designated walker wasn't paying attention and you fucking, you know, the drunk stumbled into a fucking turtle ditch.
[02:17:38] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:17:39] Duuude-Ron :
No. It wasn't a turtle ditch. What the hell do they call those? I don't know. But I tell you what, some of those ditches over there, man, I tell you what fucked your day up.
[02:17:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They would. It was me. They were they were good freaking
[02:18:02] Duuude-Ron :
18 inch almost straight drop off.
[02:18:08] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. They would hurt.
[02:18:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. They would hurt. That was funny. That was freaking hilarious to watch them be and then well, yeah. It was hilarious. But trying to pick them back up? Yeah. That wasn't fun. No. No. Because if they're anything like rich, they'd fight you the whole damn way. Get off me, motherfucker. I can walk.
[02:18:37] Rich Chelson:
Yep. That would be me.
[02:18:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know it would be you. That would be me. And where did you say you were at? Stanley, right?
[02:18:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. It was a Stanley. Okay. Yeah. I was at Casey.
[02:18:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Right outside at TDC, Tom DeShawn.
[02:18:56] Rich Chelson:
As in Buijan Boo, dude.
[02:18:58] Duuude-Ron :
Buijan Boo. Buijan
[02:19:00] Rich Chelson:
Boo was a whole lot cooler. It was a whole lot cooler.
[02:19:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because you didn't have nearly the military force that Casey had.
[02:19:14] Rich Chelson:
We could get away with a lot of shit. Yeah. A lot of shit.
[02:19:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Casey, you were. Did you have a an MP post outside of UiJongbu? Any place?
[02:19:32] Rich Chelson:
No. They was on base.
[02:19:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See, we in TDC, we had a military right there in the middle of the where the split was for all the all the bars and so on like that. Mhmm. We had a fucking an MP, post right there. I'd say there's probably 15 MPs and maybe 10 of the, the rock army
[02:20:01] Rich Chelson:
MPs. Yeah. That's crazy.
[02:20:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. We had that that we had to, you know, deal with. But like I said, I was I never got intoxicated, so I didn't have to worry about her.
[02:20:21] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:20:22] Duuude-Ron :
Now my roommate, on the other hand, man, sometimes he just got fucking stupid.
[02:20:32] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:20:33] Duuude-Ron :
But thank goodness he never got arrested. But, you know, I've seen it to where they were having a a brawl in one of the, one of the bars. Oh, yeah. Freaking goddamn 20 MPs fucking rolling in there. That was hilarious. So
[02:20:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. See, we didn't yeah. We didn't have none of that.
[02:21:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We had all kinds of freaking MPs and rock police down in TDC. But that's okay. Moe's and and in the words of, what the hell's his name? Archie Bunker. Those were the days.
[02:21:32] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Ethel.
[02:21:34] Duuude-Ron :
I was trying to figure out what his wife's name was.
[02:21:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Ethel.
[02:21:40] Duuude-Ron :
Ethel. Ethel or Edith? Edith. Edith Bunker.
[02:21:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That's right.
[02:21:47] Duuude-Ron :
Artie Bunker and Edith Bunker.
[02:21:49] Rich Chelson:
No. That was okay. Yeah. Who is who is Ethel?
[02:21:55] Duuude-Ron :
Ethel was, the friend of Oh. Lucille Ball.
[02:22:00] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That was Ethel. Yes. Okay. Good lord. Hadn't hadn't freaking thought about them names. I wonder I wonder how much of our listening audience would even remember those names.
[02:22:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Because that That's a good question out there.
[02:22:19] Rich Chelson:
Because that that is actually way back before the eighties.
[02:22:26] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that's the fucking mid seventies, 75, 76
[02:22:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:22:34] Duuude-Ron :
Time frame? What was that one cop what was that one cop show?
[02:22:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Car 54. Where are you? No. Not car 54.
[02:22:45] Duuude-Ron :
Who's that? They're they're always in the fucking, in the station house. Had the 1
[02:22:59] Rich Chelson:
Korean had the 1 Korean officer. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. You talking about Barney Miller? Yes. Barney Miller. Oh, good. Barney Miller. There you go. I was like I was like, oh my god. It was right there, right there, and that's like and and I'd knew it if I heard it. That was comedy. I tell you comedy. That was comedy, man. Some of the stuff they popped off with, it was funny.
[02:23:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And today would not be allowed.
[02:23:35] Rich Chelson:
No. Oh, go. No. Well,
[02:23:39] Duuude-Ron :
but it is still loud on, like, you know, the, I can't remember the name of the channel that has all the has all the old shows.
[02:23:49] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:23:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, there's Nick at night, but now there is, what is it? It's not Friendly. Friendly is the streaming station that actually has that. Because you have a wife who's kinda wanting it. But, I know that, I was looking up, I love Lucy episodes. I love Lucy actually started 1951 and ended in 1957.
[02:24:17] Rich Chelson:
Wow. That's crazy. But friendly that a friendly, TV service is free, isn't it? Uh-uh. Really? Nope. Oh, I did not know. I mean, it's not expensive,
[02:24:34] Bryan Goodwin:
in the grand scheme of things. I mean, it's not it's not like, like,
[02:24:39] Rich Chelson:
YouTube TV or anything like that. Oh, hell no. I wouldn't pay for that.
[02:24:44] Duuude-Ron :
I think it the channel's isn't it Chime? No.
[02:24:49] Rich Chelson:
No.
[02:24:53] Duuude-Ron :
But there's a there's a channel on I know I got it on Spectrum. I'd have to run through the freaking, the guide. But, yeah, we have one channel that is nothing but the old shows.
[02:25:08] Bryan Goodwin:
So you're yeah. I'm pulling up one head. Friend Friendly is $7 a month, by the way. So y'all say it's not bad at all. But,
[02:25:16] Rich Chelson:
shows god, I know I know I know what you're talking about, and I can't think of it. I've seen it. I don't have it. But Me TV. Me TV. Yeah. Me yep. Me TV. Yep.
[02:25:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I've got I've got Pluto TV. I like it a lot. Pluto is not bad. No. I don't watch it much. I don't watch much television as a as a as a as a whole anymore.
[02:25:46] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:25:47] Bryan Goodwin:
I use my I I use my screen my giant screen that stuck to my wall for for video games and movies, But we are watching we are watching 1 television show right now. We are watching, Yellowstone. And
[02:26:01] Rich Chelson:
I, I still I still can't get into that show.
[02:26:05] Bryan Goodwin:
You you have you have to watch the first couple of them to to start getting into it. And when you get into it, you're like, oh. Oh. Oh. I mean, come on. You get a you get a flash of Kelly Reilly's boobs. Alright? That that I mean, that's that's worthy enough to stay to watch it. So
[02:26:23] Duuude-Ron :
well I see the commercials all the time for Yellowstone, and they're what season are they on now? 5. 5 is starting up in 5. Okay.
[02:26:34] Bryan Goodwin:
This month sometime.
[02:26:37] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and that almost has the following base that Dallas had
[02:26:43] Bryan Goodwin:
in its prime time. Well, yeah. Because it is as dysfunctional of a family.
[02:26:49] Rich Chelson:
As Dallas?
[02:26:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it's almost as dysfunction. Well, actually, I would say it's more dysfunctional than Dallas.
[02:26:57] Rich Chelson:
Well, okay.
[02:26:58] Bryan Goodwin:
This one here, I mean, Yellowstone, you really struggle. There's aspects of each person that you really kinda like. I mean, I like the no nonsense gruffness of of Kevin Costner's, John Dutton character. But he's got some of his ethics, you know, some of the way he wants to accomplish stuff makes you kinda go, oh, easy there, buddy. You know, it's a real good indicator of not everything is black and white. Love Beth. Beth is an amazing, just smart ass. Goddamn. Don't piss her off type of woman. She will wreck you and your balls together at the same time.
[02:27:46] Duuude-Ron :
And what was that one? They've they've put it into a meme where the her brother comes out and goes,
[02:27:54] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't have the energy for you to actually, that's not that is, the guy who says that, his his character's name is Rip. And he's kind of the adopted boy of the, of the, of the ranch.
[02:28:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:28:11] Bryan Goodwin:
And so him and, and, and Beth, they have a little, a little thing going on and, and have they she's he's about the only guy she has ever caught feelings for. And yet, she just, she does not want to she keeps him still at at arm's length, pretty much. And you see the the the tension in that and the fact that Rip just desperately wants to be her man. And she desperately wants to be his woman, but at the same time, she's like going, I can't. No. And holds him back. And there's just that whole dynamic of push and pull between just those 2. And, I mean, it's not it's not just a straight up good guy either. I mean, he killed spoiler alert, but he kills his he killed his parents.
Actually, he killed his dad with a frying pan because his dad went, went wacko and killed his, and killed, Rip's brother and his mom. And while he was in the process of of killing his mom, he grabbed, grabbed a, a cast iron skillet and, and put a big ass dent in his head. So Well, it's not a spoiler alert for me because, like, Rich, I don't I don't watch it. I just saw the game. You really you really want it's one of those where you would actually if you watched it, you would like it. It's kinda like Breaking Bad. You watched it I don't watch it. You would you would like it. Ain't seen break ain't seen one episode of Breaking Bad. I know. I know. We've we've talked about that before, and I I Yes. I haven't seen one episode of any of the
[02:30:03] Duuude-Ron :
zombie killing Yeah. The Walking Dead, Walking Dead whatevers, and Walking Dead that's and These and Those. Yeah. Thank you. I just think that meme is so funny. I ain't got time for you to or I don't have the energy for you today. Got the energy for you today. Exactly. No. And that's
[02:30:21] Bryan Goodwin:
and that just the way that that was set up to that point was was great. I mean, that's just the I don't have the energy for you today. It's just one of those where me and Jana both have started using that one.
[02:30:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Where he comes to where he's walking out of the barn, sees him in the corner of his eye or sees her in the corner of his eye. Yeah. Yep.
[02:30:40] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I saw that and that was kinda funny. I I I yeah. I kinda like that.
[02:30:46] Bryan Goodwin:
But I mean, as a whole, because there's and the family itself, when it starts off, you have you have John Dutton, you have Beth, you have Casey, you have, Jamie, and, you got one other one. What is his name? He's only in, like, 2 episodes. And then he don't have, I wanna say Grant, but that's not right. But, yeah. Gomer Pyle? No. No. Like, Grant. Oh. Starts with a g. But, yeah, so he's, they it starts out with the show and the family. The the mom has died. She's she's gone. You find out and they give little indicators. Most of the time in almost every episode, kind of a little flashback so that you kinda have an understanding of where they're coming from.
And, yeah, still, just, I I I'm enjoying the heck out of out of Yellowstone. I see why everybody likes it. The only issue I have is that I don't know what what person everybody really likes. Because I could see John Dutton. Like I said, he is a he's the strong, fatherly type. No nonsense. I am going to protect my family and my land that I've had in control for a 150 plus years. And no one's gonna take it from me at all cost. At all cost. Doesn't matter what it is. If I have to do something that is, legally questionable, alright. We're gonna be legally questionable. And there's a lot of legally questionable shit that goes on.
And and so but it's not like Ozark or or break breaking bad where there are those guys the good guys who turn into a who take morally questionable, turns. Because you kinda see why Walter White went into, into cooking meth, because he needed money so that he could pay for his, for his cancer treatment. I forget exactly why Justin Bateman's character in Ozark had start, laundering money, but he starts doing that. And, you know, and the fact that you're break you're bending the the, the moral your morals draws other people who with question more morals to you. So and that's kinda the moral of both of those types of stories is, you know, when you are, when you don't have the morals to not take a shortcut, you're going to find yourself neck deep in shit.
But but again Sure. But with with Yellowstone, you it's like, okay, well, Jamie, he's he's this limp dick, wishy washy. I am the, a people pleaser. He has 100 per if I was to put a finger on anybody, he is the people pleaser. Doesn't really stand for anything. Just, he just wants approval from anybody and everybody. And so he's kinda smarmy. He's the family lawyer, just kinda, you know, and, he, it Beth hates him, hates his very guts, and they get into why. I'm not gonna spoil that for you, but he And that's the brother and sister. Right? That's the brother and sister. Brother, Jamie is is the lawyer.
Sister is the I I go around making life everybody's life hell. And that's pretty much what her job is. People come in, they try to buy land up next to, next to the Dutton Ranch. And she goes off and makes her life hell and and keeps them from buying it. It keeps them from doing stuff. That is kinda her. She runs, she is the chaos generator of the family. And she does that beautifully. Yeah. Yeah. And she, but she's does a whole lot better than I do. And Jeff, just an amazing, creator of chaos. And I mean, there's a character named, Dan that she was just she had took delight in fucking him over.
And just getting him worked up just to just to drop him on his ass. And it was so much fun to watch watch them play off of each other. And then you get to see exactly how tough he is because then, another, in a different episode, some other, folks come along, and and they just literally fuck the hell out of her because and she is all bruised up and battered and everything else. And, yeah, she she, she didn't give them anything of what they wanted. She is one who refuses to be afraid. So it kinda shows you the power of what you can do if you do not allow fear into your life.
And this is kind of something that I've been kind of toying around with. I wanna watch what's the, the, all the episodes up till now before I, before I jump into it. But that's kind of a, an idea that I've been plan with is what is are the different dynamics of the Dutton family? And, what are their, you know, are they really a toxic family as a whole or is it each person kind of brings in their own form of toxicity or are they even toxic at all? You know, because, you know, you have a very, like I said, a very strong leader leading father.
Who's gonna protect everything at co at, at any cost. You have a daughter who shows no fear. You have a, you have a son that is a, that is a a nice guy. You have a a another one that is the quintessential family man, and, then you have the the, the one that ends up dying. So you really don't get to know him very well, but it's a good show. I like the show. It's it's, I highly recommend it. It'll keep you occupied for for a few hours at least.
[02:37:33] Rich Chelson:
Well, you got 4 seasons.
[02:37:35] Bryan Goodwin:
So and you got Well, now, it then it's the 6th season that's coming out. This, coming out this, 5
[02:37:42] Rich Chelson:
seasons. Yeah. You got 5 seasons you can watch every now. And 10 episodes per season. Yep. Every hour per show, so you're looking at 50 hours. Yeah. So Go.
[02:37:54] Bryan Goodwin:
50 hours per season. So, yeah, there you go.
[02:38:01] Duuude-Ron :
There you go.
[02:38:04] Rich Chelson:
No. It's 10 hours per season.
[02:38:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, an hour. Yeah. Yeah. Don't mind me. I'm, I I I'm too good looking for math.
[02:38:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. See. Yeah.
[02:38:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Yeah. See, I mean, that's now you're understanding my magnificence, aren't you? It just finally clicked. It's like, holy crap. There is somebody too good looking for mad and ill.
[02:38:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Another big word for the night. Magnificent.
[02:38:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it's because I'm humble.
[02:38:43] Rich Chelson:
You're not facetious at all, are you? No. No. No. Yeah. No. I I I don't know. I I just just don't think I can
[02:38:56] Bryan Goodwin:
bring myself to watch this. So maybe all day. Good. You could. You would. And you will enjoy the hell out of it.
[02:39:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't know.
[02:39:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Next time I'm down in the Pascagoula area to go go squirrel hunting, I'll stop by, and we'll we'll watch the 1st season just so that, you know, you get to get the taste and you have to continue watching the rest.
[02:39:26] Rich Chelson:
Well, again, you see, it's funny because, normally, when I, you know, find a series that I hadn't seen before and, you know, I start watching it, there's there's only there's only been a couple series that I've gotten 2 or 3 or 4 episodes in. And it's like, yeah. No. I can't. I just I can't.
[02:39:44] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? Yeah. No. There's quite a few of those these those out there. You watch them and they're like, okay. Yeah. It's alright. No. It just didn't didn't just didn't hook you. No. Yellowstone? It it it starts out with a couple, with a treble, treble hook on you. So
[02:40:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't know. One day one day, I might check it out, but it ain't gonna be today.
[02:40:12] Duuude-Ron :
No. Not today and probably not tomorrow for me.
[02:40:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was gonna say tomorrow's not looking good right now. Yeah. But you never know. You know? Hey. Tomorrow's a new day. You're right. There is no telling what could happen tomorrow. I could wake up and be like, oh my god. I gotta, like, freaking watch Yellowstone.
[02:40:34] Bryan Goodwin:
You might you might just have a dream that all of a sudden you're you're, you're running around in a in, running around in Montana and you go, hey. There's there's the Dutton Ranch, and then you wake up going, yeah. I gotta go see the Dutton Ranch. Yeah.
[02:40:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's off that's that isn't that based off of a true
[02:40:56] Bryan Goodwin:
ranch? Well, the Dutton Ranch, yeah, the Yellowstone Ranch is an actual ranch.
[02:41:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And it's been there for eons.
[02:41:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it's million isn't it millions of acres? It's one of the largest one of the largest, isn't it?
[02:41:11] Rich Chelson:
In Montana, I think. Yeah.
[02:41:15] Bryan Goodwin:
It is interesting, though. They do mention the 4 6 Ranch also.
[02:41:20] Rich Chelson:
Really? Uh-huh. Yeah. No. It is it's it's in, Alright. Excuse me. The Dutton Ranch is actually called the chief Joe Chief Joseph Ranch in Darby, Montana. So and the ranch is 2,500 Acres. It was originally called the Shelton Ranch when it was settled in 18/80, and then the Fort Hollister Ranch in 1914, and changed to chief Joseph Ranch in honor of the Nez Pierce leader who traveled across land in 18/87 to escape the US army. So
[02:42:13] Duuude-Ron :
Well, thank you for that history, Dusson. Yeah. You're welcome.
[02:42:17] Rich Chelson:
Now they did, apparently, for the show of Yellowstone to, make it to Dutton Ranch, They built a 5,000 square foot mansion that serves as a Dutton family's cabin. And when, I guess I guess when they're not filming or whatnot, when they're done filming, that that part of the ranch is open for reservation from reservations from June to August.
[02:42:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. But and they're booked up for, like, 5 years right now. Oh, I wouldn't doubt it.
[02:43:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt it. So, yeah, that's that's a little bit of history on the Dutton Ranch. Yep. Which, I mean, you know, stuff like that is is is just cool because, I mean, this ranch was founded in 18/80.
[02:43:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. You know? But it was found about the same time the XIT Ranch was founded, and the XIT Ranch had 3,000,000 acres. Right. Which is the reason why it was called XITX for 10 in Texas. It was 10 it covered 10 counties in Texas.
[02:43:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I remember I remember I had looked this ranch up long time ago or something. I was my brain was, my brain was thinking of something and ran across this. Yeah. That's crazy. 18/85, the Farwell Brothers. That was the original ranch. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I hate pop ups. And they was from Chicago. They weren't even Texans. Right.
[02:44:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Sitting there looking at the general rules of the XIT Ranch, and they're kinda kinda interesting.
[02:44:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. 3,000,000 acres in the Panhandle.
[02:44:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Oh, they Right around Dalhart.
[02:44:41] Rich Chelson:
Texas traded the Farwell Brothers 3,000,000 acres in return for building the new capital building in Austin. You build us a capital building in Austin, we'll give you 3,000,000 acres. That is crazy. Oh my gosh. And it says, in its heyday, the ranch boasted 6,000 miles of fence and ran a 150,000 head of cattle. That's a lot of dadgum cattle. Yep. Yep. Lot of beef. Yes, sir.
[02:45:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's just Lot of can lot of Kansas City steaks.
[02:45:32] Rich Chelson:
Dude, that's like a step above a sirloin. Well, that is a sirloin, really. Now give me a rib eye or a t bone or porterhouse. Oh. Yeah. Porterhouse. There you go. Oh, man. It's it's been quite a while since I've had a porterhouse. Quite a while since I've had a porterhouse.
[02:46:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Same here. Coons age. 5 months of Sundays.
[02:46:14] Rich Chelson:
5 months. I like that. Oh, shoot.
[02:46:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Long 5 months of Sundays is. Right?
[02:46:22] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. A lot longer you'd think because there ain't 5 months in a 5 weeks in a in a month.
[02:46:30] Duuude-Ron :
What? No. It's about two and a half years. 5 months of Sundays. You have 52 in a year.
[02:46:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:46:43] Duuude-Ron :
No longer than that?
[02:46:47] Bryan Goodwin:
No. About 2 and a half.
[02:46:51] Duuude-Ron :
Fuck. I don't know. It's too late to do it's too late in the day to fucking do, basic math. I know. We're too we're we're we're we're all too good looking for math. Well There you go.
[02:47:02] Rich Chelson:
You see the bad thing is, though, my brain's stuck. You need to unstick my brain, dude. 5 months is Sunday.
[02:47:16] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. Hold on.
[02:47:18] Bryan Goodwin:
30 basically, 5 months of Sundays. Uh-huh. Okay. After I after I figured out what he's I thought he was talking about, like, there'd be a 5, so 5 months of Sundays. That's 5 times 30. That's a 150 days.
[02:47:35] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Divided by divided by 52. Yep.
[02:47:41] Rich Chelson:
By 52?
[02:47:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Let's see. 52 weeks in a year.
[02:47:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. There's 52 Sundays in a year. So there's 2.88 years.
[02:47:52] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. Okay. Alright. Alright. Guys, I'm sorry. My brain just
[02:47:57] Bryan Goodwin:
stuck on that fire. Dude, you're getting prettier every time we talk about math, so you keep going. You're you're gonna you're gonna be having girls beating down your door any second now. Oh, by god. Hurry up then. Let's do it more, man.
[02:48:13] Duuude-Ron :
No. It's just You know, I actually, finally, I got rich up.
[02:48:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. You did, dude. Yes. You did. Because my brain just literally stuck on 5 months of Sundays. It would not It would not process that. No. And it and it wouldn't process anything around it. You know? Normally normally, I can shove something off to the side and think about it and then work on something else. Right? Don't help me. It was right here. It was like, fuck you. You're gonna figure me out. And I'm like, no. I'm not. Yes. You are.
[02:48:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. As soon as I said that, your brain went into reboot.
[02:48:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, it did. That is no fucking lie.
[02:49:02] Bryan Goodwin:
What was that damn meme that I found I had put up earlier today? Oh, it was a it was a goofball looking puppet. Oh, and something about brain fog. Did you put it on Facebook? Yeah. It's oh, there it is. Yeah. When the brain fog hits mid sentence, it's suddenly you've never had a thought in your life.
[02:49:31] Duuude-Ron :
Oh.
[02:49:34] Bryan Goodwin:
I've had those times where it's like, yeah. And, yeah. Yeah. Nothing. Nothing at all. Just, I I smooth brain, not valleys or lumps or, or see, what is it? No no valleys or bumps, ridges or lumps. Yeah.
[02:49:53] Duuude-Ron :
I'm just Went straight into brain. Went straight into the abyss. Yep.
[02:50:04] Rich Chelson:
I like that meme. That is actually kind of funny. Yeah. No. That was that was me. That was me with that 5 months of Sundays. 5 months of Sundays, and, yeah, that's about two and a half years. It's like, yeah, dude. You just just yeah. Sent me off into outer space there. I was gone. I was out.
[02:50:31] Duuude-Ron :
No. It didn't send you into outer space. It sent you into a, an AOL an AOL, starting up connection. Yeah. Okay.
[02:50:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. We make my ling.
[02:50:54] Duuude-Ron :
Right? Yeah. And that sir and that circle.
[02:50:57] Rich Chelson:
Just keep going round and round and round. Oh, it did. I was stuck. I was stuck. Thank God. Thank God we figured that out before we stopped because I would have been useless till next week.
[02:51:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you did speaking of AOL, you do know that the guy who did the voice of you've got mail and hello and all those other, greetings and things you heard on AOL, he died this week. Really? Yeah. I did I did not know that, man. And he got paid a whole whopping $200 for all his, all his work. All of his voiceovers? All his voiceover for AOL, $200.
[02:51:41] Rich Chelson:
Wow. He didn't ask for royalties.
[02:51:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Nope. He didn't.
[02:51:48] Rich Chelson:
See, that's you said, well, well, you see, that's the thing. You know? Think about it. This dude was probably just a regular guy like us, and, you know, he was just doing this thing. He's like, alright. Well, I'll do this for AOL, and, you know, I'll I'll get paid for it. And I, you know, I can feed my family. Not even thinking that for the rest for the rest of
[02:52:14] Duuude-Ron :
his life Etern eternity. Yep.
[02:52:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, he could have made money on all that.
[02:52:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I mean, he his deal was he was a, see here. Elwood Edwards was his name. Died November 5th. American voice actor best known for his voice of 4 phrases on the Internet service provider of AOL, which he recorded in 1989. This includes AOL's trademark, you got mail greeting. Edward started radio while in high school in 64. And after high school, he continued on to television, working as a live booth announcer, despite some on air work, including a car commercial reporting news and sports short stint as a weatherman. Edwards usually focused mainly on off camera work with, work ranging from graphics to operating cameras. He lay later worked at, k w, WKYC in Cleveland until his retirement 2016.
So
[02:53:13] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Yeah. I would have asked for for royalties on that. I mean I mean, you know, if it's 0, it's 0.
[02:53:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. But just in case it takes off. Right.
[02:53:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean I mean, that's the thing, though, back back when everybody back when AOL was the only thing you had.
[02:53:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:53:40] Rich Chelson:
Those three words was like music to anybody's ears ears.
[02:53:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Yep.
[02:53:47] Rich Chelson:
I mean, you've got mail. And it's just like, oh my god. Everybody lit up. Who wrote me? Who wrote me? Might have been fucking spam, but we didn't care. You know? Hey. Yeah. We were all excited. Right. We had mail, man. Yeah. We were big. We had mail.
[02:54:05] Bryan Goodwin:
So alright. Well, guys, let's go ahead and let's get this baby ready to go in for landing. This show is, first off, I wanna say thanks, guys. Thanks for everyone who is listening, everyone who is on, listening to us live or, or listening to us on a, on a delayed recording, we're grateful, either way. And this show is a podcasting 2 point o, show in that we may what we mean by that is we have many of the features available. If you're using a podcasting 2 point o compliant app, a modern podcasting app, like, like Podverse, Fountain, Podcast Guru, and there's a lot of others. You can go over to new podcastingapp.com and be able to, see a list of podcast hosts, podcast, podcatchers and and more. They're all the, they got them all listed over, over on there. If you, running into problems on that one, you can also go to podcasting2.org and there's, they've also got a list of apps, there, But this is a just a new just the this is regular podcasting like we've always had. It's just got a few extra features that have been added to it. So we have what's called the live item tag. And when we go live within 90 seconds, your your app's gonna set out a a notification to you saying, hey.
2 grumpy vets of the dude is avail is is live. You can listen to it now, and you can actually listen to it while you're driving down the road, which is a far sight, better than what, apps like the apple, podcasting app or even Spotify can do. They can't do live streaming of your show. Pod, fountain can, podcast guru can, Podverse can, and there's about 10, 15 other apps out there that can also let you know notify you that there's a a podcast live. Another one is, that I always forget to mention is, is True Fans. And, and that's, that's a great one. That one that right now is a progressive web app. You can only stream the podcast to you, but it's actually, Sam Sethi, the creator of True Fans is actually, going to start making an actual app for apple and Android. And that's supposed to be dropping here within the beginning of next year, which is gonna be really cool.
Because I since I drive so much, I'm not able to use Truefans because I have a huge dead zone in the in on the Indian Nation Turnpike where there is no signal. It says, none, 0, zip. Hope you don't break down, buddy, because you're gonna be walking for a while is what my phone says. So you're you're you're stuck if you, if you break down in this in this big old dead zone. And so if I'm listening to something, through through, true fans, it just stops. And I won't be able to listen to anything until I get back over until I just about make it to McAllister. And then I'll start being able to receive the, the data stream again. So True Fans, great thing. A great one to listen to. And it's got all the features of podcasting 2.0. You wanna look for podcasts in a particular location?
Boom. True fans has got it. You wanna know what, what podcast they, they they rec the, podcast you're listening to recommends? Boom. They have pod roll. They have all of the, all the podcasting 2 point o, tags that are namespaced tags that are available. Sam Sethi prides himself in being able to get those put in and updated on a regular basis. As a matter of fact, you could even take your podcast, put it into into, Truefans, and then remake the, the RSS feed out where it's podcasting 2 point o, compliance. So there's that cool thing too. So there's a lot of ways that you can actually do this, do this so that you can actually have a current, podcasting app.
And, and get some of the, some of the really cool features. So, but one of the neat things about the podcasting 2.0 is that we are able we we're not beholden to any type of advertisers. You didn't hear an advertising one from us on here. We may joke, you know, so and so. I could could be a sponsor of our show, but we're not ever going to have sponsors because we are looking to you. If you would like to help produce the show, would like to help our the show grow, Become more, become more? We're we're looking looking to you for the support, that, that would help us to become the the show of of tomorrow.
The show that, that everyone is talking about. The show that it leaves everybody kinda scratching their head going, what the hell was that all about? Because we run off of a value for value system. It means we don't have to worry about censoring ourselves to, for a, for a, sponsor. They may not like the fact that we, that we dog come, Kamala all the time. So they and they're that, that sponsor may go, hey. You you need to layoff, layoff vice president. We can go, no. Screw you. And we can continue on. We can say what we wanna say, and the, the we're not gonna because we don't have to worry about what our sponsors are gonna say about us because the sponsors are y'all. Y'all get to get to help us. Y'all pay us and we you can, send us messages and and and things like that. And that's part of what value for value is about. It's not just the money because there's also time. And so if you wanna be able to to, take the time to set up a, a a link linked list of all the different, sites that we've talked about or all the different, articles that we've mentioned or or pointed to, you could actually go through and create a, a list.
And that would be just you providing value back for the value that we've created. This is what value for value is about. We created, we decide we create something and you decide how valuable was that to you. And then you can donate your time, your talent, or your treasure. And the treasure can be in the form of, little green green, little green pieces, a little green certificates of appreciation. I will get it straight one day. Or you can actually, just, like like I said, time or your talent. So if you like, to do graphics design, you could set help make our our show art and and be able to, put it in put it in so we have a a a continuing rotation of of show art for each of the different, different episodes.
So we've got lots of different options, lots of different ways that you can actually help out. So if you're ever, feeling, feeling grateful and wanted to to help out and you wanna know what you can do, you can always reach out to me. My name is, Brian, and, my email address is circle cast, like how goofy casts a fishing pole. Circle [email protected], or you can get a hold of Rich. That's r chelson, [email protected]. Both of those will get to both one of us and, we can, we can talk it out and and hash it out and and see how we how you'd be able to help us, help us. So many different ways that, that you can help. And it's not and like I said, if you're if you don't, if things are a little skinny and you don't have don't have cash, that's fine. There's other ways that you can help. We've got many different ways, that, you can help and be able to take a load off of off of me or Rich and or or or the dude because, I mean, he work the dude works something fierce. Guys, on the show, you wouldn't know you wouldn't know what what this show what the how a disaster this show would be if if we didn't have the dude around. Because he is one of the greatest supervisors you ever come across.
Just just letting letting that laying that out there right there. Alright. So, you know, he he he's there because and, thankfully, because he's there, we are not anywhere close to the train wreck. We actually could be. So with that, guys, I wanna say thank you again. Thanks for, listening. Rich, what do you have to say for tonight?
[03:03:15] Rich Chelson:
Oh, well, one, it was it's it's it's always fun to get and sit and talk with y'all because of, all the stuff we wind up talking about. And no one no one, not even us, even know what we're gonna talk about till we start. And I love that about this show because it just keeps everybody guessing. It's not it's not a cookie cutter type of thing, which I'm not knocking it because sometimes knowing what you're gonna get is is is good too. And and for, the people that might be a little apprehensive oh, shit. I used another big word at 10 o'clock. I'm screwed now. I'm done for the week. But, with with this podcasting 2.0 thing, it's it's actually it it is technical or can be technical, but if you get the TruFans app, I guarantee you, they make it a lot easier because, you can get Satoshis, and all you have to use is your debit card.
And then you can stream sets or send boostograms like, Brian has been talking about and stuff. And believe it or not, the TrueFaz app has definitely made it very simple for nontechnical people like the dude, to, get Satoshis if they want. They don't have to, but, you know, you can. It's there if if you want it. But other than that, you know, again, just like Brian said, thank you for listening and for, you know, downloading and listening to us and tell your friends, share this out, you know, because, we're gonna piss off somebody. Might be ourselves, but, you know, we're gonna make someone upset or happy or sad or groan or cry or whatever.
And, hey, it's a good day for us because, as long as you smile and laugh at one point, we're doing our job. So other than that, that's about all I have. Just thank y'all, and, come back and listen next week.
[03:05:39] Bryan Goodwin:
And, dude, what do you have to say for the parting shots?
[03:05:44] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I'll have to definitely agree with Rich that, thank you for everybody that listens and, allows us to go down countless numbers of rabbit holes every week. Again, we have not a clue as to what our agenda is going to be until, well, somebody changes the subject and we go on to another agenda and go down another rabbit hole. So, you know, I get it now. Rabbit holes. Don't we? Man, rabbit holes or gopher holes, my freaking lawn is fucking full. Mine is a man, I tell you what, the number of gopher holes and rabbit holes I have in my yard now from tonight's, episode is I'm definitely gonna have to watch my step out here. So but, again, yes, thank you very much for allowing us to bump our gums and rattle your brains about absolutely the most important shit that has been going on for the last 3 hours, which happened to be, I don't know, a whole bunch of shit.
So and, thank you to the 2 gentlemen that I get to, converse with and argue with and also
[03:07:05] Bryan Goodwin:
just have a good time with every single week. Well, as long as we get to irritate you at least once each each week, we're doing good. So Yes, sir. I agree.
[03:07:18] Duuude-Ron :
That ain't that ain't ours.
[03:07:21] Rich Chelson:
Dude, you're awesome, man. We love it. Oh, yeah.
[03:07:23] Bryan Goodwin:
So, alright. Well, guys, we will go ahead and let y'all go. I'll let y'all hit the hay. I know I need to hit the hay. And so we will, we'll go ahead and part our ways for this week, and we'll see y'all, see y'all here in about 7 days from now. Sounds good. Yeah. I'll take care. Catch y'all laters. Yeah. See you.
[03:07:42] Duuude-Ron :
Bye. Bye. P peace out.
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