Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets, where we dive into a mix of humor, social commentary, and intentional living. This week, Brian, Rich, and the Dude gather to discuss a variety of topics, from the intricacies of podcasting and the value-for-value model to the quirks of cryptocurrency trading. We explore the nuances of Bitcoin, Solana, and XRP, sharing personal experiences and insights into the world of digital currency.
Our conversation takes a nostalgic turn as we reminisce about the military days, discussing the legendary A-10 Warthog and its potential retirement, as well as the fascinating history of military aircraft. We also touch on the humorous side of military life, sharing anecdotes about parachute jumps and the challenges of military service.
In a lighter segment, we delve into the world of RC helicopters and the joys of flying, both real and remote-controlled. We also explore the cultural phenomenon of "Opposite Day" and the impact of daylight savings time, sparking a lively debate about its relevance in today's world.
As we wrap up, we reflect on the changing perceptions of age and the surprising facts about celebrities like Wilford Brimley. Join us for a fun-filled episode that blends humor, nostalgia, and insightful discussions, all while celebrating the camaraderie of three friends living life intentionally.
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[00:00:01]
Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello. And welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian Rich and the dude. Bitcoin has won. It's be Reporting in progress.
[00:00:37] Rich Chelson:
Get ready for some fun. The Alright. This is Brian. Yeah. What's up?
[00:00:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Not a wolf. There we go. Zoom's open. Put my ears in.
[00:01:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's good. It's dinged once. Okay. I heard it the first time. I'd make me think I'm I'm I'm on repeat or something.
[00:01:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you know.
[00:01:14] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that's good. There we go. And
[00:01:17] Bryan Goodwin:
retire. Restart. Alright. Now let's turn the pod track on, and and there we go. Almost there. Still booting up. Come on. Reading SD cards. Take time reset. Yes, of course. Still have big batteries in there. Done. Alright. There we go. Alright.
[00:01:47] Rich Chelson:
Are you good now?
[00:01:52] Bryan Goodwin:
I am now.
[00:01:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh my lord. Okay. You say so, dude.
[00:01:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Say something?
[00:02:01] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. I said I said, if you say so, dude. Oh, yeah. Well, I always say so.
[00:02:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I don't know. What do I have that's turned all the way the fuck up? That could be it.
[00:02:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's exactly what I was thinking on my end because I'm sitting here just like, you're especially loud in my ears to me. And I I look over and my my knob is, was was turned up. I'm like, well, no fucking wonder.
[00:02:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I was sitting at 8. I was like going, god dang, man. Everything's loud. Right.
[00:02:32] Rich Chelson:
Right. And that's the thing. I normally don't have to turn my volume up. You know? Not normally. No. You know? I mean I mean, some days it, you know, it depends. You know? My my hearing isn't what it used to be. But It is being very selective. I agree. Yeah. Some days it is, but, no, most days it isn't. I just yeah. I don't hear shit. Well, I mean, honestly, yeah, could be you could call it selective, but I don't know.
[00:03:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Well, Ron's been notified, so we'll see. Get him to pop on when he gets in here. So what have you been up to this week?
[00:03:18] Rich Chelson:
Well, last weekend, actually, I had forgotten all about this. And I caught it before it started, which was cool, but, worked to contest over the weekend. So
[00:03:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. So what was the what was it about the what was the contest about?
[00:03:36] Rich Chelson:
It was, November sweepstakes for the a, double r, l. So, basically, what what I had to do was contact try and make a contact in in, all 50 states, and some of the states had multiple areas. And then, all of the provinces in, say, Canada. Oh, okay. And everything. And so I didn't do too bad. I I I think I made, 51 different areas between the US and Canada. I I talked to I talked to a 100 and ah, fuck. I didn't even look today. Like, a 103, a 104 people, maybe a few more. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Scored like 12,000 points. I was like I was like I was happy.
[00:04:29] Bryan Goodwin:
So so what do you get to do with those points? Get to trade them in for tokens like a Chuck E. Cheese or anything?
[00:04:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. Honestly, is there still a Chuck E. Cheese open? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There's still a few.
[00:04:45] Bryan Goodwin:
I I didn't know. I mean, I I haven't seen a Chuck E. Cheese in a long time. But I know there's I don't know if it's still open. I know there used to be one over in, over in Amarillo, and kiddo is talking about, for for, like, 3rd birthday of of for Nugget that, that would go to Chuck E. Cheese, and I'm going, let's go to mister Gaddy's. Come on. Mister Gaddy's is so much better. Tastes so much better. It's got better food. It's got, it's got a salad bar and that's just, you know, why almost almost rivals, Golden Corral. Not quite, but it almost there.
[00:05:22] Rich Chelson:
Wow. But but see, the thing is a 3 year old is gonna have freaking nightmares because that rat's gonna come out and just scare the dead out of it.
[00:05:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Only if he comes out walking around and sneaks up behind her and gives her a big old hug, which I shouldn't do because I told Lexi. He's like, well, if you do that, don't tell him that you're having a birthday party or we'll end up having to pay 4 times the amount.
[00:05:49] Rich Chelson:
Well, see, that I know about, I do know, Rayzie had one of her birthdays there Uh-huh. When, she was little. Oh, hell. Yeah. Hell no. Uh-huh. That was not happening, dude. And and that's the thing. This girl had not been scared by anything ever from that time she was born. But
[00:06:14] Bryan Goodwin:
but she, saw that round. She she braved Santa Claus, but gosh, darn it, Chuck E. Cheese come out. It's all it was a hell no.
[00:06:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. It was yeah. It was, yeah. It was no, but my no, but hell fuck no. And and she was 3 saying that shit. And it's like, damn, girl. No. But yeah. Seriously, Breezy yeah. Yeah. Breezy didn't like it. And, Yeah. I've I've and it's just like it's crazy, man. But now these these points, basically, what they do is add them up and then, compare them to other people, like like, in your category of of, and state and all like that. Uh-huh. They rank everybody. I mean I mean I mean, basically, you know, if you win, it's just like bragging rights.
[00:07:06] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:07:06] Rich Chelson:
You might get a plaque. I mean, I don't do it for
[00:07:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I just do it just to have fun. Right. Right. Just just see how far you can get.
[00:07:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Pretty much. Okay. And and, I mean yeah. I I got to talk to Alaska, Hawaii, Oregon, California, Nevada, Utah, Montana, North Dakota. I think I got Wyoming. I'm not a 100%, but I think I got Wyoming.
[00:07:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:07:37] Rich Chelson:
California had, like, 10 different sections.
[00:07:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Of course.
[00:07:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But but I nailed all but one, I think. And then, Arizona, of course. Don't think I got New Mexico. Texas. Got a couple in Texas. I mean, just they were just spread all over. You know, I got Saskatchewan, British Columbia, Prince Edward Island, and a few other places, up in the north country. You know? So I mean Right. Yeah. It was fun. I enjoyed it.
[00:08:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Prince Edward's island. Yeah. That's yeah. That that gets me laughing because I because there after because and that's just one of those one of those, one of those those chuckling things that you, you you get. So, you know, you got, you know, you got your jokes like prince Edward in a can. Yeah. But then there's also prince Edward sound. And there's prince Edward island. And there's prince Edward island. Yeah. And so what's you know, you got, you got the prince, prince Edward sound of going. That's what I've always I've always heard.
People so you ever heard of a prince Edward sound? It's like, no. That's that's that's 5 year old in me. Sorry.
[00:09:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, if you wanna if you wanna make money, just, go to a bar and just drink Coke. You you don't even have to drink whiskey or anything. And bet someone $5 that, there's a Prince Edward Island. You'll come out. Shit. She won't have to work for a week. Because that's the thing. I mean, a lot of people, they'd be like, what? Where the fuck's that? That's up in Canada. It's in the water. Yeah. It's it literally is. So, it's off the mainland, but it's still owned by Canada. So, yeah, that's that's what I did last weekend
[00:10:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:10:04] Rich Chelson:
And everything. I found out found out today that I still have $50 in Bitcoin.
[00:10:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it did have. I sold it. Oh, went ahead and just sold it.
[00:10:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but, I bought Solana with it.
[00:10:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Went off and sold your Bitcoin even though it just it's hit $99,000 a coin.
[00:10:32] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I did. Yes. I did. And and and the reason is, current well, I didn't sell it. I I just I I just switched it over to another crypto. I, I, bought Solana. In the past year, it has gone up $200.
[00:10:55] Bryan Goodwin:
There you go. And
[00:10:58] Rich Chelson:
and it's expected because since, since the election, everyone's expecting the stock market and everything to be a a bull market. Right. So, you know, I figured, okay. You know, let's see what's up. And and then I jumped on Coinbase for, like, the first time in freaking ever.
[00:11:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They changed that up a bit, haven't they? Yeah. Just a little bit.
[00:11:23] Rich Chelson:
Not sure if I like it. I mean, honestly, no. I don't. But in in I had a whole bunch of little, say, crypto dust. Yeah. I was freaking I've got 33¢ of Ethereum. And do you know it is still staked? I can't unlock it yet.
[00:11:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It takes, 13 days to unstake
[00:11:46] Rich Chelson:
it. No, dude. There's not even an option for me to,
[00:11:50] Bryan Goodwin:
unstake it. Oh, it's too small for for it. Yeah.
[00:11:55] Rich Chelson:
Could be. Could be. But yeah. No. It's yeah. Because yeah. In Ethereum, I've only got, like, 33¢. Wow. So yeah. But, actually, I took dude's advice. And I know, dude. You're like What? Yeah. Right. No
[00:12:13] Duuude-Ron :
fucking way.
[00:12:15] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I did. Yes. I did. Because you see, check this out. On a Coinbase, you can learn about different cryptocurrencies. And when I looked on the learning rewards thing, they offered, Saleo and another one. And and if I, you know, read their stuff and then answered a question, I got so much of of that crypto. Well, I did the I did those 2 only so far because about halfway in, they were like, oh, you need to download this wallet and fund it, and then we'll give you 5 extra dollars. No. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, fuck. That bullshit. Yeah. Right.
[00:12:59] Bryan Goodwin:
And I did that with, there's one called Ronin. And I even went as far as I actually threw, like, $5 in there. Whatever it was they were asking wasn't very much.
[00:13:09] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:13:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It never carried over. So I never got the, got the extra $4 or whatever it was they were supposed to give to fund it. So I was like, yeah. Okay. Never mind. You you guys are a bunch a bunch of freaking Oh, yeah. Yeah. Got it. What is that? There was used to be a a game website, and it was something that
[00:13:33] Rich Chelson:
Hold on. Let me finish what I was gonna say because Okay. Okay. This is about dude. Okay? Because I did that with the Leo, and I did that with, fuck, coin or core. Core. And I got, like, $8 or $9. Right? So I waited till they hit my Coinbase account, and then I bought, like, $9 worth of, XRP. And and, actually, the reason I did is because a couple weeks ago, dude was saying something about XRP and Yeah. Last week. Yeah. Yeah. And, I got to thinking about it and looked it up a little more and everything like this just to, you know, find out more about it because I, you know, I didn't know, you know, much about it. And I was like, you know what? I could see this possibly and plus a few articles I had read.
A lot of them are, a lot of people are saying XRP is poised to do good in the next 5 to 6 years. So
[00:14:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. If I had about, $5,000, I'd put it in the XRP, Solana, and there was one character coin. I can't I don't remember the name of it that I would invest in those 3. And the character coin, it was like a 631% gain over, I think, a 6 month period. Now each one of the coins is less than a penny.
[00:15:24] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:15:25] Duuude-Ron :
Granted. However, you know, what happens when that particular coin gets to a dollar?
[00:15:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, exactly. But you see the thing is the way to invest, set up your recurring buy, dude. 5 or $10 a month or $20 a month. Set up a recurring buy. You don't need the money all right now.
[00:15:51] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know. But it would be nice.
[00:15:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, right. I mean, come on now. You know? I mean, yeah, it would be great if I had $5,000. No. Honestly, because I'd be I'd be paying it on my roof probably. But Well, probably. But still, you know, just freaking set up a freaking, recurring buy and just and just go for it that way.
[00:16:17] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, I'll get with you at a later date for couple some of your some of your technical advice.
[00:16:27] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I just yeah. It had been oh, god. April April was when I was, that had last been in Kraken. In Coinbase, it had been well over a year since I had been in it. And, I was like, Now I just need to figure out how to get my XRP off of, Coinbase and onto Kraken.
[00:16:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Should be able to just send it from, send it over to, over to Kraken.
[00:17:02] Rich Chelson:
I I'm not sure. Kinda started looking and I I don't know if I can because they're, they're at 2 different exchanges.
[00:17:16] Bryan Goodwin:
No. It it doesn't matter to the exchange. It matters on the blockchain. Because you could buy Bitcoin and send it to Kraken. It's on because it's on the same blockchain.
[00:17:31] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. I would need to yeah, I'd need to match the blockchain between both of them. I'll look into it tomorrow. Like I said, I I was I was going down this rabbit hole this afternoon. I looked down. It's like 5 o'clock, and I'm like, oh, hell no. Be I'm not I'm not going down any more rabbit holes because I know if I do and I don't eat, it's gonna be podcasting time. I'm a be fucking hungry. I'm a be pissed off. No. So I stopped. And then I went and ate because I was like Well, good for you. By god, I mean, if You're the man.
[00:18:10] Duuude-Ron :
Man, Fab Boy's got a good the magic in his own mind.
[00:18:16] Rich Chelson:
I'm serious. I you see, I know me because, I mean, I was I was I I was still doing research and stuff, and I was like I I just had to look at the time. I'm just like, no. If I ain't careful, next thing I know, it'll be podcast I'll be running late. So Yeah. That's why I was like, no. I ain't doing it. I'll wait till tomorrow. I got I got I got I can do it tomorrow.
[00:18:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there's always tomorrow. Well, no. There's never a tomorrow. You know that. Right? There's never a tomorrow.
[00:18:56] Rich Chelson:
Please elaborate.
[00:18:58] Duuude-Ron :
Because it's always today. You will never see tomorrow ever.
[00:19:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[00:19:11] Duuude-Ron :
Because it is today. So yesterday's tomorrow turned in today without even seeing tomorrow.
[00:19:26] Rich Chelson:
What do you see? The night.
[00:19:31] Duuude-Ron :
The only way you're gonna see tomorrow let's see. How does that work? No. Because you'd be going to
[00:19:45] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. Holy. I can say tomorrow just just watch it as far as, UTC time. Right? I don't know, dude. Dude is throwing some freaking profoundness, Brian. What's up? I mean, it's cool as shit. Okay? It's cool as shit, but dude is throwing dude is throwing some major vibes. Oh, man. This is cool. My mind's all, yeah, fuckered up right now, but because I'm still trying to figure out that.
[00:20:20] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So what else is new? That that hasn't changed in the time that I have met you, and I'm sure that it was like that before we ever even met.
[00:20:32] Rich Chelson:
And it's not it's not likely to change in the future either. It's probably not likely to change in the future. Because I've been this way for a long damn time.
[00:20:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:20:48] Rich Chelson:
So, Brian Yep. If you remember, what was you starting to say? It was about cryptocurrencies.
[00:20:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, good. No. I was just saying
[00:21:03] Rich Chelson:
I can't remember. So
[00:21:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It was, Yeah. Yeah. It was something something very, very intense and and and mentally stimulating. And yeah. Yeah. God deemed it too too great for us to hear and and flushed it down, flushed it down the toilet.
[00:21:27] Duuude-Ron :
Man, it was so important. We got screwed. Yeah. What the fuck?
[00:21:35] Rich Chelson:
Man, That's just like I'm bummed now, man.
[00:21:40] Duuude-Ron :
Like, well, we all fucking get in CRS. So, you know, I can't remember shit.
[00:21:52] Rich Chelson:
No. That's true. Oh, no. I I've I have really noticed that in the last couple weeks.
[00:21:59] Duuude-Ron :
Well, like you have mentioned several times, your your PECR is longer than your,
[00:22:09] Rich Chelson:
Memory?
[00:22:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Memory.
[00:22:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It is. It is. Not by much, but by goodness. Yeah. I yeah. I have I have side you you know what's bad? I got notepads fucking everywhere to write shit down, and I forget where I write this shit down at. And I don't find it for 2 weeks afterwards, and I'm like, why the hell I wrote that down? I forgot why I even wrote it down.
[00:22:37] Bryan Goodwin:
And then,
[00:22:39] Rich Chelson:
like, oh, shit. I remember. And then by the time I walk into the other room or check, get even halfway to the other room, I don't forget why I'm walking into that other room, and I I ain't even crossing the table yet.
[00:22:52] Duuude-Ron :
And then and then you can't remember where you set the notebook down just that you had 30 seconds ago.
[00:22:59] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's true. I have Yes? I mean, the struggle is real, man. Oh, I know. It's like, fuck.
[00:23:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Especially when you're talking to a Jeep Jeep and a 10 millimeter socket.
[00:23:12] Rich Chelson:
God.
[00:23:15] Bryan Goodwin:
What's up, Brian? I was gonna let you know. I was just trying sending over, XRP over to, over to Kraken. You have to have 22 XRP coins before you can send, minimum to be able to send over to Kraken.
[00:23:30] Rich Chelson:
Really? And that's from and, that's from coin? Coinbase to to, Kraken. Yeah. So I have to have a minimum of of 22.
[00:23:40] Bryan Goodwin:
XRP coins. Yep.
[00:23:42] Rich Chelson:
XRP coins. Okay. Yeah. Give me about a week or so, and, yeah, I I will have more than enough.
[00:23:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:23:49] Rich Chelson:
What was the fee on it? I mean, that'll change. I know. But No. I don't know.
[00:23:56] Bryan Goodwin:
That depends on how much you had you you're sending. I was trying to send, what we have to send, $3.90.
[00:24:06] Rich Chelson:
Right. Oh, it, oh, it didn't even show a fee?
[00:24:11] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Not not that I saw. So Okay. Alright. Let me try one more time to see your face. It might just kinda break out a bit. It's not working. Bye. Say what?
[00:24:26] Rich Chelson:
Nothing. I've just been a smartass man. It's cold. Okay?
[00:24:35] Duuude-Ron :
It's cold. K. So we paste.
[00:24:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Now we don't do the tag. So max. Ta ta. So that's oh, right. XRP is dropping. We're down to $3.88.
[00:24:54] Rich Chelson:
And you What's the coin? 389. No. XRP is 3.99.
[00:25:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Trending down on the 99 a coin? No. No. No. It's like a dollar 20 something. Yeah. So yeah. No. You can't tell it. When you hit try to hit preview, it goes, you know, minimum amount you can send is 22, 22 XRPs. Just the best. So fine. Fuck you.
[00:25:21] Rich Chelson:
Okay. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. I'll I'll build up my XRP and go for it. Yeah. No. My, yeah, Yeah. XRP was at a dollar 11 this morning. And, see, where's it at right now?
[00:25:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Or at 2.95. RC at, a dollar 33. So 5. Correct. A dollar 32.
[00:25:52] Rich Chelson:
Okay. It's jumped up, 20¢ since the, this morning. Yep. Since about noon.
[00:26:03] Bryan Goodwin:
So Yeah. I ended up having to grab a I ended up screwing up on some, some financial stuff, and I needed a quick quick buck. So I ended up having to flush all my, my all my Litecoin that I had. So I'm having to restart on it. I'm back and, hell, it's already back up to $67. So That's cool. It's gone it it it's not growing, you know, like, horrendous or, like, stupidly fast, but, see, within the month, it's gone 27%.
[00:26:31] Rich Chelson:
That's cool. Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. SOL is, yeah, jumped up $206 in a year. And it's it's it's ranked number 4 on the market scale right now. So, yeah, I can't. I couldn't pass it up.
[00:27:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Good night. Yeah. I'm busy just trying to I'm I'm just trying to get to, one full coin, Ethereum, which, I mean, it's still fairly low. It's at only at 3,000. So
[00:27:10] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, that's the thing. That's the thing. Freaking it there. It's been at $3,000 now for 3 years. 2, 3 years.
[00:27:21] Bryan Goodwin:
It ain't changing. It got see here. Within last year, actually, with within the year, it got down to 1,985.
[00:27:32] Rich Chelson:
And
[00:27:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. But the max max has been March, it got it climbed all the way up to 4,000.
[00:27:39] Rich Chelson:
Did he hit 4? Yep.
[00:27:41] Bryan Goodwin:
49333 or 53.
[00:27:44] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But but you see it's in in, say when it forked, the, forked side of Ethereum is only at $25. 25 or 26, somewhere around there is what it was saying earlier.
[00:28:03] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm. I was looking.
[00:28:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And I'm like, really?
[00:28:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, Ethereum Classic. Yeah. That's actually a little bit different.
[00:28:13] Rich Chelson:
No. That's the same. It that's Ethereum Classic is, the forked version of Ethereum. Because when when it split, I was holding Ethereum, and then it had and then it popped up, Ethereum classic.
[00:28:35] Bryan Goodwin:
There's Ethereum and then there Ethereum 2.0 came out, but then it turned around and, was formed, folded back into, Ethereum, I thought.
[00:28:49] Rich Chelson:
That's very possible. But still, it's only holding it, you know, 33100.
[00:28:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:29:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. XRP right now is a a dollar 32. So it's like, I I could do that.
[00:29:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Still wish I had Bitcoin back when it was 6¢ apiece.
[00:29:17] Rich Chelson:
I'd have been happy with a $100, man. Oh, hell yeah. I mean, you know, I'd have been happy with, yeah, that because, yeah, I'd be sitting on on almost a $100. My god.
[00:29:36] Bryan Goodwin:
100 grand? Nothing? You'd be sitting on you had a $100?
[00:29:42] Rich Chelson:
What's a no. Shit. That's right. What? 10,000,000? It'd be almost a 100,000,000. No. I'd be I'd be 10,000,000, wouldn't I?
[00:29:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Let's see here. I don't know. I'm too damn good looking for freaking math. What are you godly, you gotta make make me do math now. Man,
[00:29:59] Rich Chelson:
you ain't good looking on Amtrak.
[00:30:03] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm too good looking for math.
[00:30:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it's and it's definitely too late in the day to be doing that shit.
[00:30:11] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. It's Super, man. Yeah. 10,000,000. Yeah.
[00:30:15] Bryan Goodwin:
9,900,000.
[00:30:19] Rich Chelson:
So I could deal with that. I could deal with that. Well, it's 5
[00:30:27] Duuude-Ron :
6 o'clock in the morning is too late in the day to be dealing with a man.
[00:30:37] Rich Chelson:
That's why I use a calculator a lot of times because I don't I don't trust my brain. So, dude, what have you been up to?
[00:30:54] Duuude-Ron :
Did I lose everybody?
[00:30:56] Rich Chelson:
Nope. We're here. You all break it out, I think.
[00:31:02] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, that's not uncommon either with, you know, my phone.
[00:31:07] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. But it is early in the evening, but still, it's not uncommon.
[00:31:16] Duuude-Ron :
No. Not at all.
[00:31:19] Rich Chelson:
So so what what adventures did you, encounter today?
[00:31:27] Duuude-Ron :
Me?
[00:31:28] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah.
[00:31:30] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, let's see. You know, for it getting being to getting close to the holiday weekend Mhmm. The traffic on 35 is actually still pretty light. And I say that and I say that now and tomorrow because I have to travel about, oh, 2 hours on 35 tomorrow going north. And I say that, and it'll fucking probably be bumper to bumper.
[00:32:10] Rich Chelson:
Well, you just jinxed yourself, dude.
[00:32:13] Duuude-Ron :
Of course, I do. Yeah. But I get paid by the hour too. So but Well, you don't. And you know what? Went up to Grand Prairie today, you know, and usually I only go to Grand Prairie once a week. And the schedule changed and we have, you know, drivers going on vacation and, you know, all that kind of stuff. So next week is just gonna be a total fucking shit show. And, so this was the 2nd time that I had to go to Grand Prairie this week. And when I texted Ivan, the guy, my contact that does, you know, the paperwork up in Grand Prairie and all that. He's like, holy shit. I better go buy a lottery ticket. I'm the luckiest man in the world. Ron's coming up to see me twice in 1 week.
[00:33:11] Rich Chelson:
Oh, damn.
[00:33:14] Duuude-Ron :
So, you know, it's just a normal day. But you know what? I I have still yet to understand, and you guys will both know this, why somebody passes you and then gets in your lane and And then slows down. Slows down. I wanted to this. And I'm talking about other trucks too.
[00:33:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. Everybody's included in on that statement, dude. They're dumbasses.
[00:33:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I had one wanted to play the lane tag with me today. I'm like, dude, you passed me. Just go. Don't get in my lane and then slow down. You're in such a hurry to get around me. Go.
[00:34:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but see, his trip like yours is probably reports when he speeds, so he's sped up to pass you. And then he's like, oh, shit. I gotta slow down. I'm I'm a get in trouble. I'm a get in trouble. Dude, you already got in fucking trouble in the left lane. Yeah. It shouldn't have been in the left lane. Yeah. I always hated that. Reason I hated it is because my truck was normally always faster than everybody else's. Oh my god. Sons of bitches get out in front of me and take 10 miles just to pass another truck. I'm like, really, dude? I could have eaten a full fucking meal, taken a nap, and gotten back up, and you still wouldn't have been any further than what you were.
[00:34:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:34:58] Rich Chelson:
You know? I was like, get good god. Just get the fuck out of my way. I don't care what you do after I pass you, but don't get in my way. Oh, yeah. It was an ass.
[00:35:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And our cameras, when we get within a second a a second and a half away from the vehicle in front of us, it records it as an incident.
[00:35:30] Rich Chelson:
See, I'd have been fired. I'd have been fired. I wouldn't have made no money with that company. I mean, shit. JB Hunt fucking yelled at me all the time because I I either took corners too fast or followed too close. So they they had all kinds of ways to fucking even even if I barely touched the brakes or, you know, I mean I mean, for me, I mean, I didn't hardly touch the brakes, but the truck died. Oh my god. I was trying to stop, you know, in 2 feet. What about? He'd throw a code, fucking dispatcher called me. I'm like, leave me the fuck alone. I can't get nowhere. Well, well, your truck said you had a heartbreak event. No. The fuck I did, and the stupid son of a bitch damn near stopped in front of me.
I'm like, what do you want me to do? Hit him? I can do that. They're like, no. No. No. Don't well, then stop fucking calling me. Oh, yeah, man. It was, yeah, it was, yeah, it was horrible. Fucking hated it.
[00:36:39] Duuude-Ron :
And he would call you how how much time had elapsed from the incident until he called you?
[00:36:49] Rich Chelson:
Between 30 seconds and a minute.
[00:36:54] Duuude-Ron :
Wow.
[00:36:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That fucking quick, dude. And and, of course, they didn't want us talking on the phone while driving, which I get. You know, I always wanted a headset, but still, you know, I get that. But, yeah, if I wouldn't answer the phone, they just kept fucking calling and calling and calling and calling and calling. And they, someone called in on me in in Ohio because, I didn't know where I was going. I couldn't tell. I I had traffic all around me. I I couldn't tell by the exits because there was road construction over this bridge area, and they had everything all fucked up. And I was trying
[00:37:35] Duuude-Ron :
yeah.
[00:37:36] Rich Chelson:
I was I was trying to get over to get off, and then I and then, you know, I was trying to read the exits and watch the GPS at the same time, which is not advisable. And then I I moved back over a lane, and this guy called in on me and said that that I was being an ass and tried to speed up past him and then cut him off on purpose and blah blah blah. And my phone started blowing up, like I said, within 30 seconds or a minute. And I couldn't answer the phone because now I've gotten off the road. I'm going down to where I'm supposed to go.
When finally after about the 6th time, I was able to answer the phone. I'm like, what the fuck do you want? Oh, I I was pissed. And he started reaming me and my dispatcher started. I said, woah. Listen here, Hondo. This this dog don't fucking hunt. You know? And he's like, well, this guy called in on you. I said, yeah. I know. I yeah. I remember that son of a bitch. He wouldn't let me fucking over. I said, and I had to get the fuck off off this road. And I was in road construction and everything. I wasn't trying to fuck with him. Oh, yeah. I fucking read him the ride. I called him everything but a white man.
Needless to say, I sat for a couple days. He didn't give me a load because I hurt his feelings.
[00:39:08] Duuude-Ron :
Wow. That's fucked up.
[00:39:10] Rich Chelson:
Oh, well, it's yeah. I didn't care. I mean I mean, it's not like I it's not like I I was I was freaking making any money with JB Hunt, maybe 6, $700 a week. Wow. Yeah. Because JB Hunt wouldn't run you. They'd give you 6 days to go 300 miles. Like, what the fuck? Ain't got no horse and buggy. I told them that too quite a few times.
[00:39:43] Duuude-Ron :
So they're giving you 6 days to go 300 miles. If you get there early, and you couldn't get there early? No. I take it? Could
[00:39:55] Rich Chelson:
not. Mhmm. Because a lot of our freight was j I t, just in time. So, no, you couldn't be early and you couldn't be late. Even though being early would have helped. And then anytime I delivered, my dispatcher would say, oh, freight is soft in the area. Why the fuck you send me over here then? Well, we needed that load to go. Really? You could have given this to a fucking student and and let him learn how to get across. Oh, yeah. No. I, yeah, I didn't I didn't last very long with them. They yeah. They, my dispatcher didn't like me and and, I mean, I didn't care either way, honestly.
I I was just I I mean, I was an ass because this because, you know, I would you know, I was a type, you know, running 25 100 miles a week. You know, 25 100, 3000 miles a week, I'm good. Leave me alone. You know? When I'm doing 1200 a week, you cutting into my money now.
[00:41:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, shit.
[00:41:19] Rich Chelson:
You know, if I'm gonna sit this much on the road, send me the fuck home. So, yeah, I didn't I didn't stick very long with JB Hunt. So
[00:41:40] Duuude-Ron :
I can understand that.
[00:41:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. Because yeah. I mean I mean, shit. You know, I was gone, you know, 2, 3 weeks at a time, every time. Minimum 2, 3 weeks. But, you know, it's like it's like, you know, shit. I sit more than anything. And when I sit, I eat.
[00:42:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:42:03] Rich Chelson:
That's why I I was huge because they have nothing else to do except eat. Yep. And, please.
[00:42:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:42:18] Rich Chelson:
And trust me, buying the Internet at a truck stop, that was fucking expensive. That was really expensive.
[00:42:37] Duuude-Ron :
Be just because they can make money, why they fucking you know, you have to buy inter into the Internet?
[00:42:47] Rich Chelson:
Well, because no phone company had a phone that had a hot spot on it. And, you know, this was when well, this was what? The Internet had been going, what, like, 6 or 7 years at the well, no longer than that. About 10 or 12 years. So it was still, you know, kinda new, but getting widely accepted. A lot more widely accepted. And, oh, yeah, truck drivers wanted you know? Well, they just wanted to watch their porn, you know, stream their porn online. Yeah. You know? Because it was free. Oh my god. You know? Then if they could get porn for free, hell yeah. And so, yeah, that's why that's why the drug shops started getting Internet and everything. But, yeah, I think I think they just want, like,
[00:43:44] Bryan Goodwin:
$30 a month. Yeah. Yeah. They went stupid. Yeah. Yeah. And they they did
[00:43:48] Rich Chelson:
they did have a $5 plan, but, yeah, I think that would last you all of about 30 minutes. Oh, if that. Yeah? Yeah. If that. I mean, long enough to maybe check your email, which which at the time was filled with so much spam, it was unfreaking real. But, you know, we didn't know it was spam at the time. We thought, oh, wow. This is cool, you know. And, yeah, actually, it was a spam or or malware or virus. Oh, yeah. Good times, man.
[00:44:23] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and because I don't have computer access at where I work, but yet I have a an email account with my company. Right. I think it's been, like, a good 2 years since I looked at it last. And the last time I looked at it, I had close to 4,000 emails. I'm like, why why do I need this? It's your code. Well, you might have to you might have to send, you know, company related information, you know, by an email. I'm like, okay. Look at my history. How many have I sent and how many have I received? I got 4,000 in the queue, probably more than that now, and I have never sent one out.
You know? And I you know what? And I will probably never check it again.
[00:45:38] Rich Chelson:
I was gonna say the next time that you have a week off, which I know it's coming up in in, December, you could sit there. I mean, it might take you the full 5 days, but, you know, you can delete all all of those emails and start over.
[00:45:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's called, declaring email bankruptcy.
[00:46:00] Rich Chelson:
I've done that a few times. Yeah? The
[00:46:09] Duuude-Ron :
what? What?
[00:46:10] Bryan Goodwin:
What? Have you ever declared email bankruptcy before?
[00:46:15] Duuude-Ron :
No. I'm I'm
[00:46:18] Bryan Goodwin:
That's where you take everything that's sitting in your inbox and you delete everything. You don't worry about looking at it. You don't triage the shit out of it. You just take it, look at it, go, yep. We're all it's all deleted. Control a. God.
[00:46:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Is that how you can do it?
[00:46:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm. Typically, yeah. Okay. Click on the first email, do a control a, and then it'll probably if yeah. It depends on how it loads. If it loads up, you know, like a 100 at a time, then you may have to sit there and scroll down a little ways till it, till you get to the end. But as soon as you got them all loaded up, then, yeah, just control a. And mo 99% of the time, that will select all of them, and you just hit delete, and they're bye bye.
[00:47:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, clicking on each one, you know, even not opening, just clicking on it. Yeah. To fucking delete them. It's like with my email address, it's like, okay. I probably got 200 right now. You know, a good half of them are, you know, ads for, you know, companies that I have bought stuff from or booking.com, you know, booked a hotel one time through booking.com, and they will not leave me the fuck alone.
[00:47:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you what you do is open You can also, down the bottom, you'll see on unsubscribe.
[00:47:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Go all the way down the bottom in the email. Find unsubscribe. Oh, okay. You can hit unsubscribe, and they won't send you no more emails.
[00:47:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, they're not supposed to, at least.
[00:48:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, booking.com normally follows the rules, and they don't send you no more emails. You know? Most sites actually follow the rules. There's some that don't. And then that's when I just fucking report them as spam. Because it's like Oh, okay. It's like, if if if I have unsubscribed you and you send me over email, you're spam. You're done. And that's why I use Gmail like that because Gmail, you know, when I do that and hit, report spam, and they're like, are you sure you wanna do this? Or or would you like to just unsubscribe? It's like, no. I didn't ask for the fucking email. Report spam. Fuck you. Off. I don't wanna hear from them.
Because most of it's bullshit. Oh, dear. Save $20, but, you know, spend a 150 to save that $20. Kiss my ass. Yeah. No shit. Yeah. I never did that.
[00:49:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know. You know, how about I not spend a 100 a 150 and you not give me 20 back because I don't want your shit anyway. Right. You know, if I want something, I will go find it. I don't need you to remind me that, hey. We're still here. We you know, Black Friday is coming up. It's like, your point is what? Black Friday. Yippee ki yay.
[00:49:37] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's the thing. Most of these businesses started Black Friday 2 fucking weeks ago.
[00:49:43] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, they did.
[00:49:45] Rich Chelson:
So it's like, you know, and I still I still will never get hold of, never wrap my little brain around the fact that, you know, if you spend $50, oh, you'll save 15. I I I I don't I it doesn't compute. Yeah. You know?
[00:50:08] Duuude-Ron :
It it Do I really need this shit in the first place?
[00:50:12] Rich Chelson:
No.
[00:50:13] Duuude-Ron :
You know? I got enough crap, and I mean crap. Why the fuck I still have it is beyond me. I'm just probably too lazy to go out to the garage and just start fucking chucking shit. You know? But I have it's like and then I throw it away, and then I'll fucking need it. You know? For whatever reason, I'll stuff that I haven't, you know, touched in fucking years. As soon as I throw it away, I wanna need it. So that would probably be my luck.
[00:50:49] Rich Chelson:
And see, that's where that's where you'll just have to, be like, no. I don't need it. Just walk away, man. Just walk away. Walk away. Walk away.
[00:51:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I get it, but, you know, I guess I'm too fucking lazy. Just go out to the garage, open it up. Open up the door. It's like, just look at inside, close the garage door. Yep. That's a good project for tomorrow. And when does tomorrow get here?
[00:51:30] Bryan Goodwin:
It ain't Never gets here.
[00:51:32] Duuude-Ron :
Never gets here because it's always today.
[00:51:37] Rich Chelson:
That still fucks my brain up, man. I won't be thinking about that shit on that. I'll be dreaming about that shit tonight. I know I
[00:51:47] Duuude-Ron :
am. The only way that you can get to tomorrow is you take a flight from here to, say, China, and you're in tomorrow.
[00:52:00] Rich Chelson:
Or in South Korea. Yeah.
[00:52:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You're then you're in tomorrow. But then his tomorrow was actually his today.
[00:52:07] Duuude-Ron :
That's true. So you're never you're just screwed all the way around Yep. For tomorrow.
[00:52:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Tomorrow never comes. You so anytime you tell yourself, I'll I'll do that tomorrow, that's a lie. That's You're right. Same as someday. There is no you can look on the calendar and there is no someday of the week. There's a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Sunday is the closest, but it's not someday.
[00:52:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:52:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So some I'll I'll get to it someday means you're never gonna get to it.
[00:52:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right.
[00:52:50] Rich Chelson:
No. I usually get to it if I say I'm a get to it someday. Now it might be 6 months later, but that's someday.
[00:53:00] Bryan Goodwin:
No. That is Today. It just took you 6 months to decide that today was that day.
[00:53:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Isn't it just and you can never get away from today. Nope. You can never get away from today. Tomorrow never comes, and yesterday
[00:53:20] Bryan Goodwin:
is already gone. All you have is today.
[00:53:28] Rich Chelson:
Y'all are really mind fucking me tonight. What's up? Did y'all did y'all work this out beforehand?
[00:53:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. We did. Yeah. Secretly secretly, yes, we did.
[00:53:40] Bryan Goodwin:
You ought to see the you ought to see the, see the the Facebook messages because good grief, boy, they got us confused. It's like, well, no. We can't do it that way. We gotta you know, we it it it it's all it was almost as confusing as who's on first.
[00:53:56] Rich Chelson:
I can Man, I I I can finally figure that one out. That that one just took me about 15 years to figure out. Oh, yeah.
[00:54:07] Duuude-Ron :
And you know what? I have never ever seen anybody play it the way they did. Right. Eventually, Costello.
[00:54:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Us Say it, mate. Yell.
[00:54:25] Duuude-Ron :
And, you know, Costello, every time you see it, even though it's a different, say, not a different skit, but a different location in a different time, you know, he never misses a beat. Right. No. And it's always the same, you know, same tone, same, you know, verbiage. You know, he doesn't, you know, doesn't miss a beat. And every time I hear that is just, like, hilarious. Right. You know, that that that skit never ever will get old for me.
[00:55:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's, I mean, that's a true artist right there. Well, that and,
[00:55:16] Bryan Goodwin:
what is it? The slowly I, the Niagara falls. Niagara falls Slowly, I turn. Y'all remember that one? Nope. No? That one that was the old classic vaudeville act also.
[00:55:31] Rich Chelson:
I think I had heard that, but it's but it's been a long, long time since I See if I can find it. Because that that was Abbott Costello did that too. Oh, there was a deal well, dude, I know I know dude doesn't have one, but Brian Brian, do you have an Alexa at your house or a Google Nest?
[00:55:51] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No? No. Never really bothered with them. I figured, yeah, well, I can I can always ask Google on on my on my phone? So
[00:56:00] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Well, no. The reason I was saying is, this was, shit, about 3, 4 weeks ago. I I just remembered it, because we were talking about, Abbott and Costello. There's this, radio station that I saw on Facebook. It popped up on my Facebook feed, and it says that they have an Alexa skill. And I'm like, what the hell? It's called GI Jive Radio. Okay. And it's cool as shit because what they do is is they play music from the thirties and the forties during world war 2. And also, they have, in between songs, not many, but they have old newscast from from, you know, during World War 2, you know. Right. Just and and and they have, like, the old Brylcreem ad radio ads. That would do you.
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Different ads and stuff like that. And it's actually pretty freaking cool. And a lot of times, I'll just tell Alexa to play that. And I'll just sit there. Just freaking go off, do whatever, and just listen to the, well, basically, it's the big band music. But Right. And it's and it's not all fast songs. Some of it's slow, you know, and, and everything. And I just sit and listen to it, and I learned I learned one thing. Did you know, say a Glenn Miller is a veteran? Yeah. World War 2? I did not know that. I did not know that.
[00:57:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. There's quite a few celebrities that were that were, were veterans.
[00:57:52] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. I knew I knew there was a few, but, you know, you know, Glenn Miller, I'd you know, I I mean, he was known for for the big band era. Right. He was he was he was a big name, but, yeah, he he served in in, armed forces. I forget which one. I don't know if it was the army or the air force or what.
[00:58:15] Duuude-Ron :
In world war 2? Yeah. He's already a big band before World War 2.
[00:58:22] Rich Chelson:
No. He was in World War 2, man.
[00:58:25] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[00:58:26] Rich Chelson:
Hang on. Let me double check. War 1,
[00:58:30] Duuude-Ron :
or was he in World War 1?
[00:58:34] Rich Chelson:
They they said there was, let's see. Well, he was born in 04. Well, he died in 44, so, yeah, it had to be World War 1.
[00:58:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yeah. Well, who was the, had the most or the highest kills in Vietnam as a sniper.
[00:59:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. Wait. No. Glenn Miller was actually too old to be drafted in, they so the 38 year old, Glenn Miller volunteered for the navy, only to be told that the navy could not use the band leader's services. Undaunted, Miller persuaded the army to accept him so that he could put a little more spring in the speed of our marching men and a little more joy in their hearts.
[00:59:32] Duuude-Ron :
Well, alright. And I've never looked this up. I've just heard this. But who had the highest kill, number as being a sniper in Vietnam?
[00:59:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, that I don't know. I was gonna say highest kill rate. I was gonna say the Red Baron.
[00:59:53] Rich Chelson:
No. I've I've heard that. I've heard this, and I can't remember.
[01:00:00] Duuude-Ron :
John Denver?
[01:00:02] Rich Chelson:
That's right. That's right. Yeah. John, yeah, John Denver. Little old John Denver. Little wired rim John Denver, yeah, was a sniper. A lot of people don't know that.
[01:00:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. With the mo with the most with the most kills.
[01:00:19] Rich Chelson:
Actually, Glenn Miller was a major in World War 2 in the European theater. He, went missing on December 15, 1944 over the English Channel. So and he was never found.
[01:00:42] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Yes.
[01:00:45] Rich Chelson:
Yes. And he was awarded the bronze star, after he had passed in, 45 Possibly. Okay. Yeah. Possibly. So yeah. Yeah. He was in World War 2. But yeah. They oh, oh, god. That dude that dude that plays on, it's a wonderful
[01:01:09] Duuude-Ron :
life. Oh, yeah. You would have this.
[01:01:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Right. Right.
[01:01:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Love that. About, the Jim Jim. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stewart. You're walking for you're walking for mister Platts now?
[01:01:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stewart. Jimmy Stewart. Yeah. Jimmy Stewart. Yeah. Good lord. That was that was kinda hard. Yeah. I think, if I remember right, he was world war 2 as well. Yeah. So but, no, it's you know, I yeah. A lot of times, I'll I'll tell freaking Alexa to, play this. And, you know, I'll just I'll just sit and listen to it all day just because it's it's just it's different. You know?
[01:02:04] Duuude-Ron :
So? You know, and I was never really a big big band music type individual.
[01:02:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[01:02:15] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I just yeah. Can't get into it.
[01:02:23] Rich Chelson:
I just like it because, I mean, honestly, if you ask me, that was, that was the, I don't know the best time, I guess.
[01:02:32] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I can definitely get into some early fifties rock and roll. That's for damn sure.
[01:02:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But you see the the, the early fifties rock and roll, all that music, you know, that music since all came from the big band era, dude.
[01:02:54] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. Everything, you know, there's some aspect of what from each generation. Yeah. You know, the music is taken from. But, you know, I just think that I could sit and listen to fifties music, the Big Bopper, Elvis, for all that kind of music for hours. But, of course, it now I have the eighties music, which, well, that's my primary. You guys know that. That you know, there's nothing better than or nothing better than eighties.
[01:03:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, god. You kill me, dude.
[01:03:46] Duuude-Ron :
Especially with the, big hair bands. Yeah. Metallic or not Metallica, but, Motley Crue.
[01:03:53] Rich Chelson:
Twisted, Sester, Def Leppard. Twisted.
[01:03:56] Duuude-Ron :
There you go. Aldo Nova.
[01:04:00] Rich Chelson:
Oh, god. That's the name I haven't heard in a in a day or 2.
[01:04:04] Duuude-Ron :
And their biggest one was, Fantasy. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:04:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I just looked at Stewart and, check this out. He was a 2 time vet, 1941 to 1947, he was smart and went in the army. And in 1947 to 1968, he went in the air force. And his final rank was, brigadier general.
[01:04:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Really? Yeah. And I just looked and, also kinda check on, check on that that, John Denver thing. Uh-huh. He never did serve in the military.
[01:04:50] Duuude-Ron :
What? Oh, so that was a big lie then. Okay. Yep.
[01:04:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Mil his father was, had military service, and his brother was in Vietnam. But, his views on on the military, Denver disliked the rigidness and transient lifestyle of the military life. He left home, after his 3rd year of high school to pursue music career.
[01:05:15] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:05:16] Rich Chelson:
I could've swore I had heard that before. Oh, yeah. No. It's, it's,
[01:05:21] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, Snopes even has did John Denver serve as a US military sniper in Vietnam? And, nope.
[01:05:29] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Well, I learned something new. Yep.
[01:05:33] Bryan Goodwin:
From here. Oh, I didn't even know that. I I didn't think he served in I'd never heard anything about his military career. And then I went and was looking at, seeing what it said over on Wikipedia, and I was on one finding a, and I was like, what the hell? You know, you figured they would be they would have that little segment in there, you know, military life or, portion and nothing there. So I was like, let's let's see. Is that, military real or nope. Certainly not.
[01:06:01] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, James Stewart was in World War 2 and Vietnam.
[01:06:06] Bryan Goodwin:
I didn't know he's in Vietnam.
[01:06:08] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. That's what it says. He was in the European 3rd theater of operations, and then he was in Vietnam. How did he miss Korea? I don't know. Because he was in from 47 to 68 in the air force. How did he miss Korea? I'm not sure.
[01:06:27] Duuude-Ron :
Who knows? But to retire as a brigadier general in the air force?
[01:06:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[01:06:34] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Yep.
[01:06:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Brigadier general. He wasn't working for Potter. That's for sure.
[01:06:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, yeah, it's Yeah. But
[01:06:46] Duuude-Ron :
but you don't you don't very you don't hear anything about it.
[01:06:52] Rich Chelson:
No. No. In fact in fact, when he was, you know, an actor, you didn't hear anything about about Jimmy Stewart being a a veteran.
[01:07:03] Duuude-Ron :
No.
[01:07:03] Rich Chelson:
He was just I don't know. It's just weird.
[01:07:11] Duuude-Ron :
You know, unless I wear something military apparel or what have you, you know, I don't advertise my military service.
[01:07:24] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:07:26] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I know what because real and, you know, yes, people thank me once they find out, you know, which is appreciated. Right. You know, like I said, one of my friends who never served in the military just because that was not his course of life, every year for the last 4 years, on Veterans Day, this individual has called me that evening to thank me for my service. And he's done it for the last 4 years in a row without missing a beat.
[01:08:04] Rich Chelson:
That's cool.
[01:08:05] Duuude-Ron :
That's another Jeeper that, you know, that I know, Dave. David. Yeah. And he doesn't call anybody else whatsoever. He he only calls me. I'm like, wow. That's you know, I appreciate that. And, you know, definitely told him that that, you know, it's appreciated that he will stop his, you know, what he's doing on Veterans Day to call me and thank me. And then we, we usually have a good hour conversation usually.
[01:08:48] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:08:49] Duuude-Ron :
And so it's like, you know, that's just but it it kinda shocks me, you know, that he that he does that because I, you know, I really don't advertise any of my military service. You know, the only thing I talk about is, you know, jumping out of planes. That's about the only thing I will say about my military service. Right. And those were some fun times, even though I'm definitely afraid of heights. You know, I can't I can't look off the edge of my roof at my house where I could jump out of a plane.
[01:09:29] Rich Chelson:
That is kinda funny.
[01:09:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And never even even if it was noon or 2 o'clock in the afternoon, every exit was a night jump. Every single one of them.
[01:09:46] Bryan Goodwin:
My eyes Okay. Add your eyes closed,
[01:09:48] Duuude-Ron :
My eyes would lock shut until I felt the opening shock of the parachute opening. And then I could open up my eyes. And you know what? I was I could look around, not a problem one, whatsoever. You know? But I look off a fucking tall building. Yeah. Well, I got a problem. And I and I and I don't know why. That's why I couldn't go, or go to jump master school because I cannot look out that door. And you have to look out to find your one minute marking, your 32nd marking before the green light comes on for the drop zone. You know? Nope. Can't look out that door.
[01:10:45] Rich Chelson:
How the hell am I supposed to see it that high up?
[01:10:52] Duuude-Ron :
Well, we're only going out at, 800 feet.
[01:10:57] Rich Chelson:
Still. I mean, you're flying in a plane. You're doing, what, 2, 300 miles an hour. By the time you look at your 1 minute mark, it's done gone it's done back 10 miles.
[01:11:12] Duuude-Ron :
I like No. You're no. You're looking yeah. You're looking, you know, 10 miles up. Yeah. Easily. You know? I don't know what a C 17 slows down to. But under I don't remember. No. Not a c yeah. C 17. Well, that's That's the biggest plane that we can that's the biggest plane that they can, slow down enough to, allow jumpers to exit out of the aircraft. They couldn't do that with the C5 because the C5 would, fall out of the sky. But, yeah, the C 17, C 141, C 130, Those are the aircrafts. Oh, c 47. I think I told you guys that story about my jump with the c out of the c 47.
[01:12:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. You did. Yep.
[01:12:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That was that was Yeah. That was a great jump. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:12:22] Rich Chelson:
They, they're not saying, the speed because they say the exact jump window speed may vary depending on factors, like the number of jumpers, their equipment weight, atmospheric conditions. Blase blase. So Yeah. It doesn't say, it says usually around a 120 knots.
[01:12:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That yeah. Yep.
[01:12:51] Rich Chelson:
So for for us non nautical people.
[01:13:00] Duuude-Ron :
Now what is that? Miles per hour? Don't have a clue.
[01:13:03] Rich Chelson:
Well, I'm fixed to tell you.
[01:13:05] Duuude-Ron :
100 and
[01:13:06] Rich Chelson:
0.094 miles per hour.
[01:13:10] Duuude-Ron :
Is a 120 knots?
[01:13:12] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:13:14] Duuude-Ron :
Is what was it? A 130 a 138?
[01:13:17] Rich Chelson:
138. Yeah. Okay. 130 kilometer.
[01:13:24] Duuude-Ron :
Something that I'd never do.
[01:13:26] Rich Chelson:
That'd be fast in a helicopter.
[01:13:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, again, I've never researched it because when you jump out of the plane yeah. It's a it's it's a freaking, it's is a
[01:13:43] Rich Chelson:
You're not worried about speed.
[01:13:45] Duuude-Ron :
No. You're just all worried about that fucking parachute opening. That's the only thing you worry about. And then, you know, when it gets there, you've gone from a 138 miles an hour to 0 in 4 seconds. That's great. Except for your except for your descent rate.
[01:14:09] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. And we've done gone down that rabbit hole.
[01:14:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Because we were comparing it to the aerodynamics of A cow. Several of a cow, and then it turned into several barn animals and rodents and yeah. No. We ain't gonna go down that fucking rabbit hole again. That that was
[01:14:32] Rich Chelson:
Dude, that was fun, man. That was just Oh, I That was very educational. I mean, we provided a lot of valuable information.
[01:14:44] Duuude-Ron :
And you know that a cow is also more aerodynamic than a Jeep is?
[01:14:49] Rich Chelson:
I know. Right? You know, when you felt that, I didn't. Oh, hell no. Yeah. I would I would never have thought that. But yeah. No. I, yeah, I remember I remember that freaking episode. That was a lot of fun. I Yeah. I really enjoyed that.
[01:15:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That was kind of fun. You're right. So I don't know.
[01:15:29] Rich Chelson:
What y'all gonna do for Thanksgiving?
[01:15:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, head in the.
[01:15:35] Duuude-Ron :
Sleep until about fucking noon.
[01:15:40] Rich Chelson:
And then and then go down to Golden Corral and get get, turkey?
[01:15:46] Duuude-Ron :
No. Probably a Cracker Barrel and bring it back to the house.
[01:15:51] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. Okay.
[01:15:53] Duuude-Ron :
Of course, that's after I, of course, that's after I get up from my nap.
[01:16:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I have not fully made up my mind because, yeah, it's my niece wants me to go to Indiana
[01:16:12] Bryan Goodwin:
for Thanksgiving. Gary, Indiana. Gary, Indiana.
[01:16:15] Rich Chelson:
They're getting snowed right now or were.
[01:16:21] Bryan Goodwin:
I see Rich. He's gonna drive along. Sees our first flight come down, whips the Huey and says, nope.
[01:16:28] Rich Chelson:
What? Yeah. Alright. And I and I would. I did.
[01:16:32] Duuude-Ron :
And see, it's not so much about the snow or the accumulation of snow. It is what temperature has it gotten to to get it that way? Fuck that. It's below 32 degrees. I'm out.
[01:16:50] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, that's the thing because I checked the weather today and I looked at it for the future. And they're saying it's supposed to snow on Thanksgiving day, and the high is supposed to be, like, 30 degrees. And, yeah, I'm like, I'm sitting here and I you know, I've been I've been known on this for the past couple 2, 3 weeks because I've driven 10,000 fucking miles this year, and I'm fucking tired. I am tired of driving, but I I know that's a shock because y'all know I drive fucking everywhere. But I am literally tired of driving this year.
And as much as I'd love to see the kids, the chance of even a flurry with 30 degree weather, Oh, no. I just haven't I just haven't told Brit yet. So but, yeah, I don't, I'm probably not gonna go to Indiana.
[01:17:52] Duuude-Ron :
And you have to go through some type of a mountain range to get there. Right?
[01:17:58] Rich Chelson:
A small one. I mean, nothing nothing major just because there's there's no real big mountain ranges between here and there. Okay. But, I mean, I mean, small hills, but yeah. No. It's just yeah. There's just too much chance for winter weather. And it's like, no. I came down here for a reason. Yeah. It doesn't mean I wanna go back up and and visit the winter weather. Like, no. I'm sorry, but no. Yeah. No. Thank you. So, yeah, I'll probably text her tomorrow and let her know I'm not coming this year because it it's just I'm well, y'all know why I came down here. I'm tired of being fucking cold and I'm Okay. Exactly.
And that's, I mean, and that's the thing. When I go back up or, you know, if I was to go back up, now it's cold. Because Yeah. My nephew, Dusty, he still lives up in Des Moines in Iowa. He freaking calls me calls me the other day. I says, guess what? I said what? He said, it's 39 degrees. It's snowing and and the wind blowing like hell. He says, when you coming up? I said, kiss my ass, motherfucker. There ain't no way in hell I'm coming up. He just Nope. And I'm like, dude, no. Not nobody. Hell, no. And this was, when it was, like, you know, 62 degrees outside and the wind was blowing over here. And I'm just like, oh, hell no. I'm freaking wearing a jacket already.
[01:19:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep. I'm in a jacket in the mornings right now.
[01:19:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I see. Oh, yeah. No. I've got my heat on in the house.
[01:19:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. So do I. Yeah. It's getting it's getting down to forties,
[01:19:58] Rich Chelson:
high forties at night here. Yeah. Same here, dude. Mid forties. I'm like, I'm like, no. No. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to think about, you know, proceeding on down to, like, South America, Honduras, Barbados, somewhere further south because I I just I don't like cold.
[01:20:21] Duuude-Ron :
No. I I get you. You know? But the only good thing about having a Jeep in snow and when the the interstate is backed up, is getting in that, you know, grassy area between the interstate and the frontage road and just doing donuts and entertaining people.
[01:20:45] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, see, I'd I would be afraid that someone would get stuck or someone would try and do it because they see me do it. And they would want me to get out my jeep and and get them out of the ditch, and I'm sorry, but that's not gonna happen.
[01:21:05] Duuude-Ron :
Who?
[01:21:07] Rich Chelson:
Young Young, how's it called a tow truck? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a winch. Yes. It worked. But now Sure. I'm I'm not getting out this week. It ain't happening. So yeah. No. It's just yeah. I've been I've been freaking on on it, and it's it's I I've been I've been struggling with it, you know, because I mean, yes, I would love to go see the kids again, but, it's just too fucking cold.
[01:21:35] Duuude-Ron :
I Yeah. And like you said, you put a lot of miles on the Jeep this year.
[01:21:40] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I have. Yes. I have. And and this here round trip would be another 1600, so I'd be I'd I'd be damn close to 12,000 just this year, and this year's not over. So yeah. Wow. Yeah. You know? So yeah. It's I mean I mean, like I said, I don't mind driving. You know? I've never minded driving. It's just anymore?
[01:22:07] Duuude-Ron :
Not in the white shits.
[01:22:10] Rich Chelson:
Well, just, you know, anymore. Y'all come fucking visit me. Why in the hell why in the hell do I have to go visit everybody? Y'all fucking come down here.
[01:22:22] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and I've been told, hey. The phone works both ways. Right. Yeah. You're right. Use it. You know? You don't wanna call me? Why do I need to call you?
[01:22:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah, I get that argument too. You know? But you see, that's the thing. My family knows I've always been bad at calling. I've always been bad. I mean, ever since, shit, ever since I was in my twenties. If you heard from me, normally, something was fucking wrong.
[01:23:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:23:03] Rich Chelson:
You know, very rarely do I ever call and say, hey. How are you doing? How's your mom and them? Very rarely. And if I do, they're like, okay. What's wrong? That's the first question. What's wrong? But but yeah. It's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It snowed up there today, and it's supposed to snow on Thanksgiving Day. And I'm like, yeah. No. Can't do it.
[01:23:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Not gonna do it. Well, they've heard me at this juncture.
[01:23:38] Rich Chelson:
Well, we'll see. The thing is, I got rid of my insulated babies. I don't have insulated babies no more. All I have is one jacket, and that's a heavy enough jacket for down here if it gets too cold. But other than that, I don't I don't have any cold weather gear anymore. I gave it all up. It was the reason why I moved so close to the Gulf of Mexico.
[01:24:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:24:08] Rich Chelson:
So, yeah, that's that's I don't, honestly, I don't think I could handle even 5 Below anymore. Oh, I don't know. That would hurt. That would just hurt. That's like that's like my nephew wants me to come up and watch him raise battle of the barn again this year up in Des Moines. It's in January. Yeah. I told him to get screwed.
[01:24:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Love you, dude, but screw screw you. Piss up. Uh-uh.
[01:24:44] Rich Chelson:
That's about that's about what I said, and he just laughs because he knows I'm not coming. Right. He's like, I know, man. He said, but I'm still gonna give you shit. Yeah. No. It's just yeah. And see, that's the thing. You know, like, well, dude's known because dude lives in Texas. You know? Right. Brian, you you're still somewhat, like, I don't know, a little kid in in in cooler weather or cold weather.
[01:25:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Doesn't bother me. It's just how you take it's just what your what your mind is about about the cold.
[01:25:28] Duuude-Ron :
So Bullshit. It's all about the joints and the bones. Are you fucking kidding? My fucking bones hurt. My joints hurt in the fucking cold. Yeah. But it did. That and only because and it's not because I exited an aircraft a 116 times. I don't think any of that would have anything to do with, you know, that and Oh, no. Not nothing at all about the about the, the sudden stop after after gently
[01:25:58] Bryan Goodwin:
bloating to the ground.
[01:26:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. That's it that was always not an enjoyable moment for the most part. Yeah. It was the you know, you're supposed to have 5 points of contact, but mine usually was 3 points of contact. It was either heels, ass, head, or feet, knees, knees, face. It was never a fucking proper parachute landing fall, PLF, ever. It was a PFL. Perfectly fucked up landing. Yeah. A 116 times I did this shit.
[01:26:47] Rich Chelson:
So your favorite so your favorite position was a face plant then. Right?
[01:26:55] Bryan Goodwin:
I bet you got where all his jumps are. I bet you they still got little plaques out there going, Ron's face. Ron's face.
[01:27:03] Duuude-Ron :
Or, no, Ron's ass.
[01:27:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Ron's ass.
[01:27:08] Duuude-Ron :
It was usually it was usually Hill's ass head, his staff landed. That would hurt. Yeah. Quite a few of them hurt. I'll give you that. Thank God that never had a broken bone from jumping, and I never had a tree landing.
[01:27:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's good. But, okay, let me ask you this. Have you ever had your tailbone x rayed?
[01:27:39] Duuude-Ron :
No. Okay. No. I haven't.
[01:27:42] Rich Chelson:
Because after a 116 jumps, I bet your tailbone is in pieces.
[01:27:49] Duuude-Ron :
Probably.
[01:27:51] Rich Chelson:
I mean Yeah. I never jumped out of a perfectly good airplane. Although if if if I had been given the opportunity, I would have taken it at the time. Now I would not. But
[01:28:04] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. Of course.
[01:28:07] Rich Chelson:
But but the thing is, even though I never jumped out of a perfectly good airplane, my tailbone is just yeah. It it just hovers right there altogether. It it nothing's attached anymore. It's just it's been shattered so many times. It's and that's just from normal falls, like off a deuce and a half, a 5 ton, a tank. Oh,
[01:28:31] Duuude-Ron :
wow. Yeah. It don't take, yeah, it don't take much. However, I'm glad I was not the dude that on our 3rd jump in jump school, because you have to have 5 jumps to get your parachute wings. So on the 3rd jump, you don't ever land with your your knees locked. You you're you're you have your knees bent and to a certain degree to where it kinda is supposed to act like a shock absorber. Yeah. It doesn't. He landed with his knees locked and his feet about shoulder width apart and broke both femurs and both hip sockets
[01:29:24] Bryan Goodwin:
on his 3rd jump. The heck. Forgot to forgot to buckle, didn't he?
[01:29:29] Rich Chelson:
Tuck and roll, baby. That's right. That would be it. Just
[01:29:33] Bryan Goodwin:
stiff legged.
[01:29:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You don't you don't land with your knees locked. No. And, yeah, you both femurs and both hip sockets. You could hear him screaming all the way across the Well, all the way across the drop zone.
[01:29:52] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't doubt that, man. Yeah. I mean, fuck. Yeah. It it's like, uh-uh. That's that's where the whole tuck and roll comes from, man. Yeah. You know? Pretty much. Yeah. I mean
[01:30:07] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. I Yeah. He forgot all about the parachute landing fall. That was a PFL, perfectly fucked up landing. Yes, sir.
[01:30:16] Rich Chelson:
Needless to say Yeah. Yeah. It took him a while to get his jump wings.
[01:30:23] Duuude-Ron :
No. Well, I don't know, but I'm sure they med boarded him after that.
[01:30:31] Rich Chelson:
Oh, really? Well, yeah. Well, yeah. Probably. Yeah. I mean, probably so, but yeah.
[01:30:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when you fucking break both hip sockets, yeah, you're pretty well fucked as far as the military is concerned. Yeah. Well,
[01:30:48] Rich Chelson:
so, yeah, this was back in the day, and they didn't have that technological advances they have now. Hell, they can they can make an inch and a half to incision and exchange your hip. I never understood that, but they can. It's Yeah. Say.
[01:31:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Yeah.
[01:31:13] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, with all, yeah, with all the yeah. With all the tools and everything they have now? Oh, yeah. Yep.
[01:31:20] Rich Chelson:
But that's the thing. How do they get get the old hip out? They don't leave it in there. I mean, it's fucking extra parts they don't need because it's crushed.
[01:31:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. Uh-uh. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Cut it up? I've never seen one. I've never yeah. Possibly.
[01:31:41] Rich Chelson:
Make it out as good meat. You know, mix it in a little soup base.
[01:31:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I'm sure that they have something that breaks the bone. And Right. You know, puts it into little pieces and pull those out because, yeah, you ain't it's no.
[01:32:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because you see the, a new hip needs to have room to, you know, be able to move and, you know, let the body, you know, reform around the new hip, you know Yeah. Or whatnot. I would think. I mean, I've never looked it up, but that's just, you know, you know, my brain, the way it thinks. And that's I'm not saying that it's it's it's always a good way of thinking.
[01:32:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But Yeah. Well, after usually, after about 4 o'clock, mine just shuts down. I'm done.
[01:32:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Normally, mine's about 2 or 3 depending. Some days, I can get till 5. But, yeah, after 5, no. I'm I'm out. I'm serious. I'm out.
[01:32:51] Duuude-Ron :
And then and then, of course, our podcast doesn't start until 7, and we're already brains have shut off. So it's amazing that we can even carry on a conversation halfway. Well, not a decent conversation because we're just all over the damn place. Right. You're right. You know, just a having a thought. Yeah.
[01:33:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, we've been downloaded 1450 times, so someone must either be laughing at us, hating on us, or what. But
[01:33:32] Duuude-Ron :
so it's it's every bit of I can guarantee you it's every bit of we're being laughed at.
[01:33:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it. Well,
[01:33:41] Duuude-Ron :
you know, if they're what's the old saying? If you can't laugh with them, laugh at them.
[01:33:47] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:33:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Something to that effect, at least.
[01:33:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, hang on. There was there was something I read of and and I I actually been saving it. Oh, no. Don't tell me I lost it. Oh, no. I lost it. Damn it. It was an article I found. The freaking air force is fiction to fucking be stupid. They are taking the a tens out of South Korea and replacing them with the f 15 a's and the f 30 fives because the f 30 fives are the new version of the a tens. They've been, upgraded, they say, as and classified as close quarters combat.
[01:34:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, shoot.
[01:34:44] Rich Chelson:
That's right, dude. That's exactly what I bullshit. Yeah. But no. No. I freaking read that, and I it's like it's like fucking air force has been after, you know, getting rid of the a tens for years. You know? And it's like, no. Why? There's no reason to.
[01:35:07] Duuude-Ron :
Well and, yeah, it it's an aging aircraft, the airframe, and they're not making any new ones. But, you know, the whole purpose of that aircraft was close air support, and its maneuvering factor because it was flow like a helicopter. Right. Yeah. And you could freaking damn near turn that thing on a quarter and come back around to fucking rehit them.
[01:35:47] Rich Chelson:
Right. But but, see, that's the thing, though. Okay. Yes. It's an aging aircraft. I get it. It's 60 fucking years old. Alright. Fine. The thing is, all this money that they've wasted on the f 15, the f 16, the f 18, and now they're up to the f 35, they could have built a new a 10. A couple of them. Yeah. Quite a few of them and replace the original a tens. You see you see, this is what irks me about the fucking military overall, and and has been for years. Okay. The you see, normally, we say if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Military says, if it ain't broke, we'll fucking break it and then give you something new. That's worse than what you had. Yeah. Yeah. Replace it. Yeah. It's like, no. Don't If it ain't broke if it ain't broke,
[01:36:37] Duuude-Ron :
don't fix it. Well, yeah, we'll break it so we can replace it.
[01:36:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[01:36:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But you're not yeah. No. I read that. They're they're taking the e tens out of South Korea, and I'm thinking, okay. What's next?
[01:36:52] Duuude-Ron :
Stupid decision because of that because of that mountainous terrain.
[01:36:59] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm.
[01:37:01] Duuude-Ron :
In Ron's opinion, that's the best fucking aircraft with that train far far than anything else because all the rest of them are moving entirely too fast.
[01:37:18] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. They say they say they have freaking upgraded the, f f fifteen a, the f thirty five, and I think one more. And they're saying the f 35 is the new close quarters, plane.
[01:37:34] Duuude-Ron :
That Yeah. You're gonna okay. They're gonna put a fucking 30 millimeter Gatling gun on the front of that plane? Yeah. You know?
[01:37:44] Rich Chelson:
And and see the thing is, something else this, this article said. I mean, I didn't read all of it. I just I just read, you know, just just a small bit. But in that small bit, I read, oh my god. It had so much information. Basically, what they're doing is, setting their sights on Taiwan, Hong Kong, and all like that because, basically, they're saying the Middle East is is, you know, in their rear view now, which I think is,
[01:38:19] Duuude-Ron :
They better not put anything in the fucking rearview mirror when it comes to the fucking, Middle East.
[01:38:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. Or Yeah. Well, Russia just fired a ICBM at, Ukraine. I I think it was today or yesterday.
[01:38:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. She is. Yep.
[01:38:40] Rich Chelson:
And, and, Putin is, threatening more. So, yeah, we'll see. We're gonna see what's happening. You know?
[01:38:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And if they, and if they start shooting shit this way, shit. I'm getting in the fucking Jeep and going to freaking goddamn point of impact.
[01:39:06] Rich Chelson:
You'd be safer, probably.
[01:39:10] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, I'd be dead. When when they're talking about well, what I'm talking about is, like, a nuclear weapon being fired.
[01:39:22] Rich Chelson:
Well, man.
[01:39:25] Duuude-Ron :
I'll go in the direction of point impact because I ain't living through the fallout shit. Right. That. But yeah. I don't think so.
[01:39:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. There's there's, yeah, there's, yeah, there's just a few things I read that it's just like I don't know if you ask me. Putin is just he's just standing on you know, just trying to flex his muscles before, Trump gets in the office. But I could be wrong about that too because because Putin is a sneaky motherfucker. Always has been.
[01:40:05] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. Oh, yeah. You know, when Trump was shaking his hand? He was, Putin was shaking his hand, and the other hand, he had a knife and stabbing him in the back all at the same time with a smile on his face. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:40:23] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens, and we'll see as as things go on. But, yeah, that was just a few things that I noticed that kinda got my, dander up just a hair. I was I was actually more mad about the a ten leaving South Korea than anything.
[01:40:51] Duuude-Ron :
Seriously? They're trying to. Yeah. I know. They're trying to get all the a tens out of the and retire all of them and put them out of the inventory. I know. And retire all those aircraft. I know. That's And they've been trying to do that for hell, Obama was trying to do that. Yeah.
[01:41:11] Rich Chelson:
But, honestly, that's the worst thing we could do because that that aircraft just oh, god. It's just it's just too versatile.
[01:41:22] Duuude-Ron :
It's too versatile Yeah. That everything. Especially as a close air support with danger close, with troops danger close. And we're talking when we're talking danger close, is within, 200, 300 meters.
[01:41:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:41:44] Duuude-Ron :
And and the accuracy that they have with, you know, no, what the hell is that when you count families?
[01:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:
From the car?
[01:42:02] Duuude-Ron :
No. Yeah. There was a phrase specifically for it, but, yeah, friendly fire. You didn't hear very many, friendly fire incidences with an a ten ever.
[01:42:14] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. No. Because the pilots I mean I mean, the freaking pilots. I mean, no one ever talked about the a ten or the pilots, but, you know, and and, you know, I'm not knocking aviators by no means because those guys are are, you know, some awesome motherfuckers. But the a tens? Shit.
[01:42:33] Duuude-Ron :
Those Freedom Bureau.
[01:42:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. And and and they've got women a 10 flyer pilots. In there. Yes. Yes. I I saw oh god. Was this last year or something? I saw a a small interview when, our maybe it's on YouTube. I can't remember. They was, talking about the a 10. This was the first time I had heard they was talking about the a 10, getting rid of it. And there was a female, pilot that, you know, she flat told him, she's like, I'm not turning my ATN in. She's like, no. Uh-huh. That's the Yeah. The plane's 60 years old, she said, but no. You know?
I mean, she was, you know, she's like, uh-uh. I love this plane.
[01:43:22] Duuude-Ron :
And and And all the pilots do that Yeah. You know? The ones that want to be air. That pilot the ones that wanna be a 10 pilots are just fascinated by that aircraft just like the the rest of us. Right. But, you know, to have that unique skill set of an a 10 pilot because they're just as vulnerable as the guys on the ground because they're so close to the enemy and RPGs and what have you. You know? Yeah.
[01:44:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But then gatling guns, tiresome. Get up before they get there.
[01:44:05] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. That is you know how fulfilling that is to watch and call in an a 10 Thunderbolt and watch it just blow up some shit? Now I never did it in a war zone, but I've done it in a training scenario. And, you know, there was a couple of us that got to call in a 10 fire. And I tell you what, that shit is just, phenomenal to watch.
[01:44:39] Rich Chelson:
That that would make that would make my little pecker hard.
[01:44:44] Duuude-Ron :
You did. Yeah. I left the would. I left there with a heart on every time. Yeah, buddy. That was man, it was just things that that that I've been able to couple things I've been able to do, so many people would love to do it. Right. But we'll but we'll never get a chance. That's like when, I was in the 82nd and we were doing, we had a AC 130 gunship that we were the our platoon, the our fist platoon was going out to observe. And, yeah, it's the only time that I've ever seen it done, in my military career. But I was one of 3 that actually got to ride and fly in that a 1 AC 130 gunship during a live fire.
[01:45:47] Rich Chelson:
Oh,
[01:45:48] Duuude-Ron :
did you? Was fucking cool. Uh-huh. You talk about when when that, 20 millimeter because they the one that I flew on had a 20 millimeter cannon. It had 2 of those, and then it had 2 40 millimeter cannons that actually came off of battleships from World War 2, and the ammo that they were using when I rode in that airplane still had a naval stamp as surplus from World War 2, the rounds that they were using for the 40 millimeter cannons. But when that 20 millimeter Gatling gun went off, oh my god. Just sitting right next to that, that was fucking cool.
[01:46:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, dude. I'd have been walking around with a heart on for a week.
[01:46:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That that was that, riding that, calling in an a 10 Thunderbolt, doing a, artillery mission, flying in a, what the hell was it? The Kiowa Warrior. I don't remember the acronym for the, what that aircraft was, but it was a Kiowa. And doing a live fire while I'm flying in that just to you know, as we're flying, it gives you the, you have to be know where you're at for the adjustments from how you're seeing it from the last time the adjustment needed to be in when you're 400 meters away because the helicopter moved over. And then jumping out jumping out of that c 47 of the plane that actually dropped soldiers into Sicily for one of the 5 combat jumps that the that the 82nd did in World War 2.
[01:47:54] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:47:56] Duuude-Ron :
Those are my 4 or 5 most exciting events while I was in the military.
[01:48:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. The, the, Kiowa is the, o eight Oscar hotel dash 58.
[01:48:15] Duuude-Ron :
It's a bell Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, 58. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Oh, it's 58. That's right. It was really good. What does the o h stand for?
[01:48:27] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't know.
[01:48:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, hell.
[01:48:32] Rich Chelson:
I like that. Oh, hell.
[01:48:36] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So what is a, like, a c c h or a c c h 47? What does the c h stand for?
[01:48:46] Rich Chelson:
I don't know.
[01:48:48] Duuude-Ron :
Cargo helicopter. Okay. Oh is observation helicopter because that's all the Kiowa does is observe for, you know, artillery or Apaches.
[01:49:04] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:49:05] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So that's that designation. And then you have the Ah, which is a TAC helicopter.
[01:49:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:49:14] Duuude-Ron :
And Those are
[01:49:18] Rich Chelson:
That a o h Go ahead. Yep. That a o h 58 was retired in 2020.
[01:49:26] Duuude-Ron :
Wow.
[01:49:27] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh.
[01:49:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Well and I can understand that for the most part because the o h 58 delta, that's the first one that had the ET head above the rotors. Right. You remember seeing that? Yep. Yeah. They called that a ET, but that was that had the laser designator in it for the attack helicopters for the, Hellfire missiles.
[01:50:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I, when I was in Fort Riley, we had a few of those, plus we had some of the Apaches. I think we had a couple Hueys as well.
[01:50:21] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. So But now that the Apaches can designate for themselves, that's what retired the 0H 58. Well, then it says So they could do all that for themselves now.
[01:50:36] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, it says also this, the army wanted to reduce its overall number of airframes in the inventory.
[01:50:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:50:49] Rich Chelson:
They say it was a mathematical decision, which, honestly, I don't
[01:50:54] Bryan Goodwin:
freaking care. Means we were wanting to save money.
[01:50:59] Duuude-Ron :
And I can understand that with the o h fifty eights, but I will never understand that with the a tens.
[01:51:07] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:51:08] Duuude-Ron :
Never. Never.
[01:51:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's that's why that's why I was so upset because because the cost of an f 35, you could build, you know, I mean, you could build a tens, new a tens. That's the thing. The reason why they're I I don't know why there hasn't been new a tens built.
[01:51:36] Duuude-Ron :
Neither do I. You know? Yeah. When look at the cost of a, you know, a 35 versus an a 10, how many a tens can you build versus 1 of the 30 fives? Right. Maybe 3?
[01:51:52] Rich Chelson:
Probably.
[01:51:53] Duuude-Ron :
3 to 1? Oh, I'm sure.
[01:51:58] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because, I mean, an f 35 is what? What? A 2, $3,000,000,000 plane?
[01:52:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep.
[01:52:11] Rich Chelson:
You know? And so, yeah, they can build a even with the titanium tub, you know, they could still build it for less than, less than the f 35.
[01:52:29] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, they can probably build 3 of them before they can build an f 35. But, of course, I don't know the math on all that shit and, you know, that's 15 levels above my pay grade. No. Not 15. Probably about a 150,000 levels above my pay grade. So, you know, who knows why they do what they do?
[01:52:56] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, this is I mean, we've been asking ourselves even when, oh my god, even when we were in the military. So, I mean but still yeah. The f 35 the f 35 a, damn. $109,000,000.
[01:53:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. Easy. Yeah.
[01:53:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a $109,000,000. And and a and a f 35, just a flyaway version, is 82.5. The the extra comes to the, armament and shit like this.
[01:53:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:53:44] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, that's hang on. Let's see. Good. No. This is bad having the Internet Because it's like you could find out so much.
[01:54:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing the technology of what the kids in school now can have at their fingertips versus what we had. Right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you got an encyclopedia set, you were fucking rich. You had money if you could afford an encyclopedia set.
[01:54:30] Rich Chelson:
Oh, fuck yeah, dude. I mean, that was that was, like, big time.
[01:54:34] Duuude-Ron :
Now it says Yeah.
[01:54:37] Rich Chelson:
Okay. It says when the cost for upgrades and maintenance are factored in, the total cost for an a 10 more hog is roughly $18,800,000.
[01:54:49] Duuude-Ron :
When when it was 18.8. Right? Okay.
[01:54:53] Rich Chelson:
That's that's per plane.
[01:54:55] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Right. 8 18,000,000 per plane. And how much was it for fucking f 35?
[01:55:03] Rich Chelson:
109. You could build 10 a tens and and freaking maintain them for for the same price as 1 f 35.
[01:55:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And it
[01:55:21] Rich Chelson:
it says it says, like, say where did I see it at? It says when, production was at its highest, the a ten cost around 1,400,000 per unit. And it's saying the current cost of an a ten would be considerably higher. Yeah. I mean, 18? No. I mean, well, we're spending a 109 for an f 35.
[01:55:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much. Do Yeah. Do the math. Right. Does this equate? I don't think so. Not just no, but hell no.
[01:56:04] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:56:05] Duuude-Ron :
But that's just Ron's lowly opinion and Rich's lowly opinion is we don't we don't we don't mean yeah.
[01:56:14] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's the over
[01:56:16] Duuude-Ron :
when it comes to the overall scheme.
[01:56:19] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:56:20] Duuude-Ron :
My opinion don't mean a damn thing.
[01:56:26] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It says it says, during, Operation Desert Shield Desert Storm, the a ten had 6 shoot downs where where 6 a tens were shot down and only 7 total losses out of the whole fleet. That's pretty fucking good.
[01:56:50] Duuude-Ron :
It well yeah. But Desert Shield, Desert Storm was, well, pretty well one-sided conflict Right. When it when it came down to it.
[01:57:08] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. I just I just I I mean, with with everything I've seen, you know, you know, I've I've never seen an a ten fly, you know, in person. I would I would love to.
[01:57:22] Duuude-Ron :
But Oh my god.
[01:57:24] Rich Chelson:
You would love it. I I I don't doubt it. But, you know, all you know, the videos I've seen and stuff like that, it's just like, oh my god. Yes. It it's uglier and sin, like, all of them cannons. Them. Oh, man. Yeah. They just that sound is just amazing.
[01:57:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And when it goes Uh-huh. You know, after after a wonderful soda, it goes. Oh my God. That is like I said, that will fucking give you a hard on for weeks.
[01:57:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a jolly green giant fart.
[01:58:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And the only thing that would come close for Brian was Jesus. And he wasn't even in the military before they got these, which was this which is the CWIS.
[01:58:21] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Kitty Hawk had the seawiz, and they actually test those out several times. Those were awesome things to hear. It's big old belches just
[01:58:31] Rich Chelson:
What? The Oh, yeah. What? Woah. Hang on. Seawiz, close in weapon system.
[01:58:37] Bryan Goodwin:
I know. It was designed. It was a it was radar guided, machine gun. Oh, no. A gatling gun that Yeah. If you ever look on on, like, some of the old, old, carriers and some of the older the r two d two looking gun thing. Uh-huh. The SC wiz.
[01:58:57] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:58:58] Bryan Goodwin:
And basically what it is is it would lock on to say anything coming in at them over mach 1 and would lock onto it and fire.
[01:59:08] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It says it it fires,
[01:59:12] Bryan Goodwin:
20 Depleted uranium.
[01:59:16] Duuude-Ron :
And it's just like the 8 tens. Yep.
[01:59:19] Rich Chelson:
And and it says it fires at 45 100 grams a minute. Yeah. Oh, god. That would be awesome. Say say that's the thing. I never got to hear shit like that. I would have just that's crazy. The USS Coral Sea was the first ship to be fitted with it in 80. Yeah.
[01:59:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Coral Sea Yeah. Fitted with it when?
[01:59:50] Rich Chelson:
1980.
[01:59:52] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. I didn't know that SeaWiz was that fucking old.
[01:59:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was made in the seventies, but it was it was, the first ship to be fully fitted out with it, was the USS Coral Sea in 1980.
[02:00:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, wow. Yeah. But that from then to now, oh, yeah. Watching the SeaWiz fire off. Oh, yeah. That is I've never seen one in person.
[02:00:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Brian, you said you said you seen 1 fire in person. Right? Oh, yes. Get the fuck out of you. A little game bit. I was expecting it. I was out there on the flight deck or not the flight deck, but out there on the spoken deck. Just do do do. And I was like, It's like, shit. Goddamn it.
[02:00:42] Duuude-Ron :
Now did you just hear it or see it?
[02:00:45] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I just heard it. Yeah. Didn't actually see it because of where it was at.
[02:00:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was Okay. Was it sitting up on the flight deck or just under the flight deck? Well, let's see if I can find a,
[02:00:58] Bryan Goodwin:
find a picture of Kitty Hawk.
[02:01:05] Rich Chelson:
Is this you see, that's you say, I'm I'm gonna have to find some videos on this. I'm I'm I'm gonna have to watch them and get my rocks off tonight.
[02:01:16] Duuude-Ron :
It's about the only Yeah. There's one I saw that came across my, Facebook feed, and it's like, how much does it cost to fire this, weapon and operate this weapon? You know, as the turret is turning, it costs a just based upon the video. It's saying to turn the turret costs a $100. And then as it starts firing, it's like the numbers roll, you know, like the, like the defs the rolling in numbers of the deficit. Mhmm. Yeah. When they're firing off each round, you just you know, the short burst on that one was like a $123,000.
[02:02:06] Rich Chelson:
Wow. That's crazy.
[02:02:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, you know, is it actually true? You know, I thought that John Denver was, you know, had the most kills of the sniper when he was never in the military. So so what the fuck do I know? But it's like then they're firing off some of the, ground air missiles. Each time one of those goes up, $5,000,000 $5,000,000, which is, you know, I could believe that.
[02:02:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Right. Because it's with the service There's a picture of the Kitty Hawk's aft, and, there's 2 seawizzes that are mounted on the back on the back, so you can kinda have an idea of what they look like.
[02:03:01] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. Okay. So they're sitting they're sitting on the,
[02:03:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They got them sitting on the side on the on the, on the aft. They've got some that are setting, down about midship and stuff so that they can Okay. And, but, yeah, it's you accept there, because of what they did is down the sea trials stuff, they would actually have they'd be a dude in, like, a leer jet or whatever, and they'd be pull towing a, towing a a a fake cruise missile. Okay. And, so they'd be coming in at, over, over mock one. And, you would set, you could sit there and, and, and, and know when they're well, one, you would hear when they're firing, but also you could sit there and watch the cruise missile. It'd get hit the cruise missile, and then all of a sudden it would start working its way up the wire.
Oh, hell no. Cut the wire and run, dude. Yeah. You'd see you'd see the guy. You'd watch the, the the jet guy. He'd be, he'd be flying along all nice, low, like, where he needs to be. And all of a sudden you'd start to see him start to pick up. He's like, oh god. Like, you know? The same thing. I mean, like, oh, don't hit me. Don't hit me. Don't hit me. Don't hit me. Don't hit
[02:04:25] Rich Chelson:
me. Yeah. No. It's it's saying, seaweeds cost $35100 a second.
[02:04:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I would not well, that's depleted uranium ain't cheap.
[02:04:38] Duuude-Ron :
No? Uh-uh. And that's the same thing that, rounds that they're firing out of, a 10 as well. Yeah.
[02:04:47] Rich Chelson:
So so $210,000 a minute.
[02:04:53] Duuude-Ron :
How much was it? Good.
[02:04:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But they don't fire for a full minute. It's only, like, 15, 30 seconds. Just. Yeah. But still, that's that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money come flying out of the back end of that. So Yeah. It's
[02:05:09] Rich Chelson:
yeah. It says it's, 35100 a second
[02:05:13] Duuude-Ron :
is what it cost. And what and what was for for a whole minute?
[02:05:17] Rich Chelson:
210,000.
[02:05:19] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Yeah. So I believe that.
[02:05:23] Rich Chelson:
That's I mean, that's just insane. Yeah. I'm I'm yeah. I might have to find some videos on that.
[02:05:31] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there's there's some cool ones out there. Oh, as a matter of fact, no. I don't think I've say I don't think I saved it. But if it comes back over my, my Facebook feed again, which it will, I'll send it to you. So how'd you like the, the memes that I sent today or the Yeah. The ones that I've sent you guys today?
[02:05:56] Bryan Goodwin:
I thought they're pretty cool. 1st Yeah.
[02:05:59] Duuude-Ron :
That was Yeah. I'm looking at look in the
[02:06:05] Rich Chelson:
chat. See, when it's only Wednesday and you have zero energy left to make it to Friday.
[02:06:14] Duuude-Ron :
And you see the picture above it. Right?
[02:06:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:06:18] Duuude-Ron :
A girl hanging on to a merry-go-round. Yeah. I'd say in the ground. Yeah. That's about my week. I get to go to Annis tomorrow.
[02:06:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Woo hoo.
[02:06:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know? And I'm already when I got back from Grand Prairie, got my truck inventoried and, was actually able to unload the days and load up tomorrow's, and everything is freaking pulled. I was shocked.
[02:06:58] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. You and I Cotton. Yeah.
[02:07:03] Duuude-Ron :
It would not only was fully pulled, it was fully produced. I'm like, wow. I'm not sitting around here waiting for stuff to be pumped. And I have a and I have a 100 and 20 oxygen 200, which are the, you know, ones that are about your shoulder height, that are 200 cubic feet. Uh-huh. I have a 120 of those on my truck.
[02:07:38] Rich Chelson:
Wow.
[02:07:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said. They're already done, and I'm not gonna be waiting tomorrow for to get anything pumped. Wow. Yeah. I was kinda shocked.
[02:07:50] Rich Chelson:
That's cool, dude. Yeah. That's really cool.
[02:07:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It is. So I can actually leave somewhat early. But, of course, the place that I'm going to is not going to be ready for me when I get there. Of course not. That that's okay. That's okay. You're you're right. Why? Because I get paid by the hour. There you go. And I can legally be on the clock for 14.
[02:08:26] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:08:28] Duuude-Ron :
I I don't plan on making a 14 hour day tomorrow, but, you know, we'll see how it looks like when, when I get there tomorrow. Because I got 20 pallets on the truck, or I will have 20 pallets on the truck. And supposedly, I'm supposed to have that many coming back. Yeah. We'll see if they're ready or not. But if they ain't but if they ain't, you know, I can just sit and wait. Gonna have to do that anyway. So
[02:09:05] Rich Chelson:
I'd say, hell no. It's Friday. I'm out.
[02:09:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Unfortunately, I can't do that. I've gotta go take a nap. Yeah. I might just go, yeah, in one of the offices and go take a nap. Who knows?
[02:09:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, hey. You can do that too. You know, that that freaking plant manager that that that just loves you when you get there. You go in his office, take a nap.
[02:09:35] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? Yeah. I could Oh, that works. Do that.
[02:09:38] Duuude-Ron :
See? But but the but the only thing about that is I will get in and help them correct all of their deficiencies when it comes to cylinder securement on the pallets and, of course, labels. Yeah. That's always fun. And then it's amazing that because I have to inventory every cylinder that I get put on the truck for accuracy because of inventory aspects. Right. So, you know, it it's it's funny that every time I I think they that particular, store has gotten a happy face from me. I think maybe 4 times in the last 5 years that I've been going there that they actually got the count correct the first time where I didn't have to go back and correct their count of what they said they had and what I said they had.
It's happened 4 times in the last 5 years. Well, maybe Go figure.
[02:10:56] Rich Chelson:
Maybe they will break the record.
[02:11:01] Duuude-Ron :
I mean Well, if they get you know what? It'd be nice if they if I could give them a happy face. That would be truly, truly wonderful if I could do that.
[02:11:11] Rich Chelson:
That would just that would just make your month, wouldn't it?
[02:11:17] Duuude-Ron :
And make and make their month if they got a happy face. Because like I said, I well, okay. It they it'd do the inventory on, all the cylinders. And then they put it into the computer, and then I get the initial print off of the inventory that's on the pallets. So I go out there and I check, okay, I got 1, c 25300, you know, 2 argon 3 hundreds. Right. And oxygen 200 on this pallet. And if they get everything correct the first time, I'll, you know, make a little happy face on that sheet.
[02:12:03] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:12:04] Duuude-Ron :
So they've only gotten 4 happy faces in since I've been driving. So usually usually, I have to make a correction, which is fine, you know. Nobody is perfect, but come on now. It's not that hard. Why is it that when I get there, my truck is correct? Well because I'll make sure that, you know, I inventory the stuff on my truck. So they're gonna get it correct they're gonna get it correct, load based upon the tickets. And I wanna make sure the load coming back is correct as well.
[02:12:51] Rich Chelson:
Well, of course.
[02:12:53] Duuude-Ron :
But that's just me.
[02:12:56] Rich Chelson:
That's the way it should be, especially when you're hauling hazmat. You're right. Is right.
[02:13:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. That is correct. I'll give you that.
[02:13:09] Rich Chelson:
Because if the right passenger isn't isn't isn't communicated, it could have a devastating
[02:13:18] Duuude-Ron :
problem. Oh, yeah. And, you know, and I pride myself on trying to be a 100% every time, but there's a couple of things that might slip through the cracks on me. It has happened before. You know? But I always try to I think my success rate is 99 plus percent Right. For my accuracy. You know? And that's the way it should be for everybody, but, you know, unfortunately, I can't say that.
[02:13:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. But yeah. Because you can only worry about yourself, you know, because it's your money that that will get taxed.
[02:14:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's right.
[02:14:02] Rich Chelson:
So and everybody else, well, they they do their own thing.
[02:14:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:14:09] Rich Chelson:
You know? But
[02:14:13] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I agree with that.
[02:14:16] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hey. Have y'all ever watched the movie Moana?
[02:14:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Who? Moana?
[02:14:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That yeah. That one.
[02:14:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. No.
[02:14:26] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's a it's a Disney cartoon movie.
[02:14:30] Duuude-Ron :
I'm watching. Yeah. I know what I know which one it is. I just never watched it.
[02:14:35] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. I watched it last night. I mean, it's okay, but I gotta say the music did nothing for me. Oh.
[02:14:46] Bryan Goodwin:
I just No. But I do like the chicken.
[02:14:49] Rich Chelson:
Oh, the chicken. Hey, Hank. Oh, yeah. Hey. Hey. It was funny or sad. God. He's he's about dumb as a boxer. Great. Yeah. Oh, he's great. Oh, shit. Yeah. No. That was yeah, I saw that. That was that was funny. I mean, it wasn't a bad movie or nothing, but, yeah, whoever come up with the music for it, yeah, they failed miserably. But, overall, I liked the movie. But, yeah, Hey Hey the Chicken. And that's a weird name. Hey Hey. Hey. Hey. Yeah.
[02:15:30] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. Hey.
[02:15:32] Rich Chelson:
Hi. Hey. Hey. Hey. Like in Silver Dollar City, y'all ever been there? Nope. So Y'all gotta go. Because when you go to Silver Dollar City, and you ride that train, it's it's an actual train that rides around the park. You know?
[02:15:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh.
[02:15:52] Rich Chelson:
They, they stop a couple times at at different points. And, there's this one they stop at. They got, like, 2 hillbillies, you know, sitting, you know, sitting by a a old old log house or whatnot. They, they do a little skit, and, I'm not exactly sure what the one guy says, but the other guy goes like, hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. That's that's a body or hell. I mean, it's it I you y'all gotta go see it. It's actually it's actually cool. It's it's free. You know, You just pay to get in the park and everything. The rides are all free. You know? It's like 6 weeks.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. It's yeah. When I hear that, I always think of Branson and Silver Dollar City because it's like it's like damn. Because that was funny when I went inside.
[02:16:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:16:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'll, definitely need to go.
[02:17:03] Duuude-Ron :
Maybe one day. Oh, tomorrow. Okay. There tomorrow.
[02:17:10] Rich Chelson:
You going tomorrow? Cool. What? Yes.
[02:17:17] Duuude-Ron :
I'm going tomorrow. Didn't we just already have this discussion about tomorrow earlier tonight?
[02:17:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Really do, man. Who's on 3rd? What's on 2nd? I don't know who's on 3rd.
[02:17:30] Rich Chelson:
I told you my doctor is longer in my memory. I done forgot about that. Oh my god. You're killing me, Alice. You're killing me. I know.
[02:17:46] Duuude-Ron :
And see, we're laughing at your expense. See, we're we're not gonna laugh with you. We're gonna laugh at you. Right. Yeah. There there's nothing nothing more satisfying. Right? We're not gonna laugh with you. We're gonna laugh at you. Right. And don't and don't ever ask me to to help you if you fall because I'm a be too busy laughing, and then I'm gonna get the camera out.
[02:18:17] Rich Chelson:
So I'm gonna be on the ground for a minute.
[02:18:21] Duuude-Ron :
Maybe 2. Oh, man. Oh, damn. Might even stretch to 3. You should never know.
[02:18:31] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell.
[02:18:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Well, probably when you start throwing rocks at me. You know? I will I definitely stop filming and taking pictures at that point. Give you a hand up.
[02:18:44] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, shit. Yeah.
[02:18:50] Duuude-Ron :
We don't want you to hurt, you know, too much. But eventually, we'd help you out.
[02:18:57] Rich Chelson:
Right. Hey. Since when since when did, say a say a, Mexico get a female president?
[02:19:08] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. Don't keep up Mexico.
[02:19:11] Rich Chelson:
I just I I just I just happened to say it. I mean, I'm not I, you know, I'm not saying, you know, don't do it, but I didn't know. They had, you know, they had had an election, and Mexico has a female president. It it was just it was just kinda, yeah, it just kinda set me back. I'm like I mean, it's cool, but
[02:19:38] Duuude-Ron :
I was just like, hey. I think there's another country that just elected their first female president as well. And it might might have been Mexico that I heard, but I think there's another one that just elected their first, female president ever.
[02:19:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I mean, I'm not yeah. I'm not knocking it by no means. But, yeah, it's just, you know, like like, especially in these other countries where, you know, it's always been basically dictators.
[02:20:10] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Male dominated sports.
[02:20:12] Rich Chelson:
Right. You know. But, you know, and, you know, to see, you know, someone else, you know, see a female, you know, you know, doing it is I mean, I'm not saying it's it's a bad thing.
[02:20:30] Duuude-Ron :
It just happened. Been for us. It would have been for us.
[02:20:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But
[02:20:37] Duuude-Ron :
Maybe one day, there will be one that is worth their wait.
[02:20:46] Rich Chelson:
Right. Nice choice of words. I like that, dude.
[02:20:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, again, who are who do we vote for? The lesser of the 2 evils?
[02:21:00] Rich Chelson:
Which we shouldn't have to. I mean, we You're right. I mean, I yeah. Yeah. We could talk about this till we're blue in the face.
[02:21:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Which we're which we're not gonna do because, you know, nobody wants our opinion on politics.
[02:21:17] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:21:19] Duuude-Ron :
You know, because the the between the 3 of us, it would be a one-sided conversation.
[02:21:27] Rich Chelson:
Pretty much. Pretty much. I mean I mean, I I mean, I will listen to the other side, and I might even agree with 1 or 2 things. But, Yeah. I'm not I'm I'm not gonna agree with everything.
[02:21:44] Duuude-Ron :
With the overall agenda? Oh, hell no. Yeah. No. Not eve not even close.
[02:21:51] Rich Chelson:
Oh, oh, I don't know if y'all know this. I just found this out today. The Republicans now have both the senate and the house.
[02:22:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Knew about that one.
[02:22:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Same here. Yeah. Well, see, I didn't. I just I just saw it today because I I was I was reading something, and and I I saw an article that said the senate, that, the, republicans, had the house and I'm like, what? And I looked and checked and said, yeah, we're at, 219. I was like, okay, cool.
[02:22:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Now So the now all we have to do is worry about the, the the Republicans snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
[02:22:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You know, just as long as they put into law to fucking get rid of daylight savings time. Because do you think we really need it anymore? They created that for fucking lamp oil.
[02:22:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. We don't I mean, we we haven't needed it, but everyone says, well, oh, we've had it this long. Might as well just keep it. Because everyone's too fucking scared to stand up and say, hey, fuck you. Change it.
[02:23:11] Duuude-Ron :
We don't need it anymore. Hell, we're the only fucking country that does it.
[02:23:15] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:23:19] Duuude-Ron :
So every time you go into Canada from where you're at, you know, go through the border. You gotta fucking change your damn
[02:23:26] Rich Chelson:
watch. Yeah.
[02:23:29] Duuude-Ron :
Because they don't follow it. We're the only ones that do. Why? Because we're a bunch of fucking morons. We don't need the shit anymore. We haven't for yeah. We haven't needed that now since
[02:23:48] Rich Chelson:
We didn't need it in the 1st place, dude. Because if you can't look out if you can't look out your fucking window and see it getting dark and light your lamp, something's fucking wrong.
[02:24:03] Duuude-Ron :
Well, the whole purpose was is to, you know, better usage of the lamp oil. How you figure? Because
[02:24:13] Rich Chelson:
how you figure? Because the sun doesn't change.
[02:24:18] Duuude-Ron :
I know that.
[02:24:20] Rich Chelson:
So so, I mean, when it gets dark, you need light. Light your lamp. When it gets light, you don't need your lamp.
[02:24:27] Duuude-Ron :
Extinguish it. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:24:30] Rich Chelson:
The freaking oil usage doesn't change.
[02:24:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Actually, they've seen that, dear, when daylight savings does kick in, it actually increases the amount of, electricity and oil being used. Yeah. Does the exact opposite, which is what government normally does. We're gonna fix this by destroying it.
[02:24:57] Rich Chelson:
Hello? Yep.
[02:24:59] Duuude-Ron :
I'm gonna fix it by doing the opposite. Right.
[02:25:04] Rich Chelson:
Opposite day, man. Do you remember that? Opposite day, dude. We need to bring that back, opposite day.
[02:25:13] Duuude-Ron :
No. I can't say that I remember that one. What?
[02:25:17] Rich Chelson:
Dude, that that was high school, man. We had opposite day, dude. That was cool as shit. Explain
[02:25:25] Duuude-Ron :
it to me to where I might have, but I don't remember.
[02:25:31] Rich Chelson:
Opposite day is like it's like,
[02:25:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Just as it sounds. Everything was opposite of what you were doing. Yeah.
[02:25:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And, like, you know, you wore your clothes backwards. It was opposite of the way you normally wore your clothes. And it Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Then yeah. That was I've done that. Yeah. Okay. I got you. Yeah, man. That was that was a shit. So but see, that's the thing. You know? I mean, I don't know. But you see, the thing is if if we stop daylight savings time, we would still have to change, like like some of these some of these appliances that automatically change, the time, and there's some of them that do. Yeah. You would have to, go back and and change the time on those still.
[02:26:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. So that takes what? 20 seconds out of your day?
[02:26:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Just to create it just recreates the, the blinking 12 problem that we always had in the eighties.
[02:26:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. With the VCRs?
[02:26:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. No one would set it. Just blinky 12.
[02:26:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah.
[02:26:52] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean I mean, that was the hardest thing to set on a VCR back in Oh, they weren't hard. It wasn't challenging at all. It was just, you know, it's just the fact that you had to do it. You had to know where where to look on what to set. And once you got it set, it was it was okay. But, you know Bless you. You'd lose the power, and then it would be blinking again. Right. Right. So it's like That's exactly right. So just leave it at fucking 12, and
[02:27:19] Duuude-Ron :
at least the clock would be twice right
[02:27:22] Rich Chelson:
twice a day. Twice a day. That's right.
[02:27:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. The rest of the time, I've had a clock now hanging up above my TV that has what time is that? 6:32 probably for the last 5 years. Because I need to go get a I need to go get a new motor for it.
[02:27:51] Rich Chelson:
Suit, dude. Hobby Lobby or Walmart?
[02:27:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Hobby Lobby. Yeah. But I can look down about 3 feet and, damn, there's a time right there on the cable box.
[02:28:04] Rich Chelson:
Oh, ain't you fancy? Dude, it's a clock. You know? I I mean, you could fix Or I can
[02:28:14] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. Or I can pick up my phone and gives me the time there too.
[02:28:18] Rich Chelson:
That's too much work, man. It's too much work. I'm telling you. Yeah. You're right. It is too much work to replace that motor in that clock. No. It's not. I say say say
[02:28:29] Duuude-Ron :
I know. Laziness.
[02:28:31] Rich Chelson:
If I don't have my phone near me, well, I've got I've got one Alexa that has the time on it that shows me a time. I've got another one that doesn't have no time. So so if I'm not looking at at the one that has the time, I'll just I'll just freaking ask Alexa.
[02:28:51] Duuude-Ron :
And seeing as how you don't have to set your alarm to get up tomorrow to go to work, What is what is time?
[02:29:02] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, I do I do I do try to I do try to get up at a decent hour. You know?
[02:29:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. But when you wake up, was it time dictated?
[02:29:14] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell no. No. Absolutely not. It was pain dictated. Because, you know, my body was like, yo, motherfucker, get your ass out of bed. Yeah. And I'm like, no. They're like, oh, yeah. You just wait about 5 more minutes. And it's like, oh, fuck. Okay. Then I take my pills.
[02:29:35] Duuude-Ron :
Where's your coffee?
[02:29:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yes. With my coffee. I said, dude, it's it's coffee every morning. Well, hell yeah. And, yeah. I mean, I don't I might let's see. I'll walk out on the front porch. I will not wave or say hi to anybody. Because sometimes my neighbor, I see him, but, yeah, I don't I don't look anybody's way until I've had at least 4 cups coffee. Then I might think about it, and and then see. And then I'll finish my pot. And then it'd be like, okay. I can get moving. And that's normally 11, 11:30. So
[02:30:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there you go.
[02:30:23] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm.
[02:30:25] Duuude-Ron :
Just just in time. And as soon as you get done with that, you're just in time to go take a nap.
[02:30:32] Rich Chelson:
No. I gotta eat breakfast, dude.
[02:30:34] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Sorry. In? We we miss breakfast. Okay. Breakfast, then a nap.
[02:30:39] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Then I could take a nap. Lunch.
[02:30:43] Duuude-Ron :
Lunch, then a nap.
[02:30:47] Rich Chelson:
Well, lunch and breakfast is about the same time, you know. And then, yeah, I won't eat nothing until,
[02:30:57] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know, 5, 6 o'clock, and then that's it. Well, that's a great time to have an amp. Between between what? 1 and 5?
[02:31:10] Rich Chelson:
Wake up, eat dinner, and then what? Go back to bed?
[02:31:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Go take a nap. Yeah. So that we know that that's what you're gonna do on, Thanksgiving. Why? Because 90% of the nation does it.
[02:31:25] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:31:26] Duuude-Ron :
Gets up, cooks, eats, go take a nap.
[02:31:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, I might because, I got a turkey because when I went on base to go shopping this last time
[02:31:40] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:31:41] Rich Chelson:
They had turkeys for 69¢
[02:31:45] Duuude-Ron :
a pound.
[02:31:49] Rich Chelson:
So, yeah, I scored. I scored for a turkey, man, before Thanksgiving at that.
[02:31:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So what'd you what did it run you about? $1,327?
[02:32:00] Rich Chelson:
No. Less than that. Less than that. I only got, I think I got a 14 pound turkey.
[02:32:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:32:08] Rich Chelson:
So I didn't I didn't get a big one this year.
[02:32:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah? Well, it's, you know, the
[02:32:14] Rich Chelson:
Cost me $9.66 for that turkey.
[02:32:19] Duuude-Ron :
Wow. Right? Wow.
[02:32:22] Rich Chelson:
Right?
[02:32:23] Duuude-Ron :
I scored, dude. You definitely scored because they were running fucking what? 30, $40 usually.
[02:32:32] Rich Chelson:
That's why I go to the commissary. Because, yeah, 69¢ a pound. I was like, fuck yeah. Game on, baby. So I'll I'll probably cook that, on Thanksgiving. I don't know if I'll smoke it this time or not. I think I think I might just, cook it in the oven.
[02:33:00] Duuude-Ron :
Because I Yeah. Because smoking smoking is gonna take you how long?
[02:33:05] Rich Chelson:
Oh, smoking it, at the most, 6, 7 hours.
[02:33:12] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:33:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. And and and the thing, smoking a turkey the only thing you have to worry about smoking a turkey is it has to go from, I believe, it's a 100 100 degrees to a 140, like, in a matter of an hour. And if it doesn't, you throw the turkey away. It's it's ruined. It's it's Oh, okay. So because because you're, cooking it so slow. But, normally, the past couple times that I smoked a turkey, I haven't had no problem reaching temperature in in the time frame.
[02:33:53] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:33:54] Rich Chelson:
So but, but, yeah, I was just thinking since since I have a full oven that I just might cook it in the oven. I do plan to inject it with, creole butter, though.
[02:34:09] Bryan Goodwin:
It's something new that I found done. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's some good stuff. Yeah. For sure for sure it's good stuff.
[02:34:18] Rich Chelson:
And say, I Well, after
[02:34:20] Duuude-Ron :
after you get done doing making the turkey and all the trimmings, the stuffings, you know, all that stuff on Friday, just cut me up, you know, a good pile and just drive it over here and drop it off for leftovers.
[02:34:39] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Bring ass over here. You drive. You drive, dude.
[02:34:45] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right. You don't wanna drive this anymore for the rest of the year. No, man. At least you wouldn't be at least you wouldn't be driving any place, that has white air accumulating on the ground.
[02:34:57] Rich Chelson:
Well, you do have a point. You do have a point. But, yeah, I I I don't really wanna drive any anywhere this the rest of this year. Around here, that's fine. But, no, I I yeah. It's you know, I didn't I didn't know how far I had drove until I sat one day and was adding it up. And I'm like, good god. Because normally, driving 10,000 miles of gear didn't bother me at all, you know, in a car or a vehicle. You know? Yeah. Normally, it didn't bother me, but it's it's just it's just the last couple years. It it just it's really got to me.
You know? Because it's like, you know, I I don't know. It feels it feels like I have to bring half the house with me. Well, you know, I have to make sure I've got I've got my tools if I break down, you know, shit. Yeah. And
[02:35:58] Duuude-Ron :
Clothes, cameras, drones, computers.
[02:36:02] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. So it's like it's like, no. I'm just fucking tired.
[02:36:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:36:09] Rich Chelson:
And besides, I live in a beautiful area. Y'all come down and see me.
[02:36:18] Duuude-Ron :
So Well, I bet you I'll get there.
[02:36:21] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know you will. Tomorrow.
[02:36:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Which won't be tomorrow?
[02:36:28] Duuude-Ron :
Which won't be tomorrow. It'll be today. Yep.
[02:36:35] Rich Chelson:
Oh God. Yeah. And Richard going,
[02:36:37] Duuude-Ron :
what the fuck? God damn it. I still can't fucking, I just can't wrap my head around that line. No, I can't. I ain't.
[02:36:46] Rich Chelson:
I cannot. That just that that just does not compute.
[02:36:54] Duuude-Ron :
And for the first 10 months that I was in Korea Mhmm. I did I could not figure out why the fuck we could not get a USA Today on Sunday, the newspaper.
[02:37:09] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh.
[02:37:10] Duuude-Ron :
Couldn't figure out why we couldn't get a USA Today on Sunday. Well, gee, dumbass. It only took me 10 months to fucking figure out that, jeez, South Korea's 18 hours ahead of the central time zone where I'd come from. Right. Mass. Yeah. It was already that's when I was in tomorrow. Yeah.
[02:37:41] Rich Chelson:
I'm still lost.
[02:37:43] Duuude-Ron :
Because we wouldn't get to USA Today until Monday.
[02:37:48] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:37:51] Duuude-Ron :
So
[02:37:52] Rich Chelson:
And and that was Saturday's version. Right?
[02:37:57] Duuude-Ron :
No. That USA Today always came out on Sunday. Oh. That newspaper? Yeah.
[02:38:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I guess it's out.
[02:38:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It only came out on Sunday.
[02:38:12] Rich Chelson:
You sure about that?
[02:38:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It was a weekly new it was a weekly newsprint, right, Brent?
[02:38:22] Bryan Goodwin:
I no. I'm thinking that I would now these questions, and I'm thinking that was might have been New York Times, the Sunday paper that everyone usually gets, but let's see here.
[02:38:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because I would because I I was thinking because I I mean, I used to read the USA Today, and I I mean, I loved it.
[02:38:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it it the only I believe they only produced it once a week, which was delivered on Sundays. It it very well. But I could be wrong. Well I'm sure I could be wrong.
[02:39:05] Bryan Goodwin:
But, you know, for 10 months, I couldn't figure out why the fuck we don't have a USA Today. You know? USA Today, a a typical, of most daily newspapers, the paper does not print on Saturdays or Sundays. The Friday edition serves the weekend edition.
[02:39:25] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:39:26] Duuude-Ron :
Then what the fuck did yeah. I don't know then.
[02:39:28] Bryan Goodwin:
It had to have been, New York Times because everybody was all excited about the New York Times Sunday edition.
[02:39:35] Duuude-Ron :
No. It wasn't the New York Times.
[02:39:38] Rich Chelson:
I know that. Did that in South Korea. Well, I mean, we might have. I I never saw it. Yeah. I know. I was pissed when the price went up from 50¢ to 75. Oh, I was hot, man.
[02:39:54] Duuude-Ron :
So USA Today was a daily paper Monday through Friday then? Right. Okay.
[02:40:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'd I had thought it was, but, yeah, that was so long ago since I've read a USA Today. It's like, yeah, I couldn't remember
[02:40:09] Duuude-Ron :
to be, you know Well, I'm surprised that any newspaper is still in actual print for the most part.
[02:40:16] Rich Chelson:
No. This yeah.
[02:40:18] Bryan Goodwin:
This Well, the only thing that's the only thing that newspapers and Adam Curry talks about this a lot of times, in that the newspapers used advertisements, yes, to help bring in to to help run the, the paper. But the most important thing to a newspaper for the longest time was the, classified ads. That's where they made all their money.
[02:40:48] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:40:49] Bryan Goodwin:
And, and when Craigslist came along and decimated the, the the obit not the obituaries Classified. But the classified ads Yeah. That's when the newspapers really started to struggle because they weren't willing to try to find a way to modernize themselves. They were they're still trying to stick to the old style of doing things, like, with, like, with advertisements. And advertisements don't work. Advertisements are a race one. They're a race to the bottom. You've got the ads, ad buyers or the ad sellers who are trying to do it for as cheap as possible.
And so, yeah, when when and you can still actually do decent with advertisement, but it's gonna be something where you're doing, like, a local, podcast or a local blog or something like that where you're talking about local stuff and you're getting the local, companies involved in their advertising because they're specifically targeting the people who would be interested in your blog or podcast or whatever. Yeah. So so people like, podcasters, are finding this out. They're trying to do, trying to do advertising. And yeah.
20 years ago, 15 years ago, when you did an ad, you you could actually go off and say, you, we'll cover we'll do an ad. It'll be, $300 a month. And people would be, alright. Yeah. That sounds really good. But, you know, as long as they you they got enough, business to to warrant that, then you were good. What they run into now is that they're trying to do programmatic ads and and stuff where it's just, alright. Every, every 15 minutes, put 2 ads in here. And so they shoved all these these inconsequential don't don't have anything to do with you type ads. It'd be like on, people listening to my show. It's about masculinity, about men, and they would probably be put stick in Tampax tampon ads in the middle of it.
It's like, dude, my my group is are men. And no, I'm not fucking woke. So a man does not bleed unless he was kicked in the car really fucking hard. Alright? So, no, you don't need a Tampax tampon. So well, unless you have a bloody nose, then those things work amazing for a bloody nose. Just just speaking from experience on that one.
[02:43:43] Duuude-Ron :
I see. Okay.
[02:43:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. You ever have a bloody nose that you can't stop? Cram a cram a tampon up up your nose. You look a little stupid walking around with the string flapping around for a bit, but after after a little bit, you you pluck it out. I mean, it's supposed to be absorbing. It absorbs blood, so it does what it's it's doing what it's supposed to do. It's just out of your nose. So, you know, it it does the fucking job. Alright? Just there's my helpful tip for the day. Just if you got a bloody nose you can't stop, use a tampon.
[02:44:19] Duuude-Ron :
So but, There you go. There you go. Wow.
[02:44:23] Rich Chelson:
It does work. I've heard it does work.
[02:44:27] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I have no doubts in my ever loving mind. And it that is a great tip.
[02:44:33] Bryan Goodwin:
So but advertisers are they're dropping down to where doing, per 1,000 basis. So you may get, you know, $5 for every 1,000 downloads. So, yeah, if you're making 10,000, you know, making 10,000, downloads. Alright. So you've got about, let's see, $5 per 1,000, 10000, so that's about $10. Or not, again, too pretty for math. About $50. Yeah. So I mean, not re it it's not bad. It's not great. Because I mean, again, if you're if you're doing local, you could be making 250 a month. Divide that out by 4 weeks. And which one are you doing better on?
[02:45:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:45:33] Rich Chelson:
The 2.50 a month by far. Yeah.
[02:45:39] Bryan Goodwin:
So, you know, it's advertising is not only does the advertising cause you to have to censor yourself because you're having to make sure you don't offend the, the the the advertisers at all. They've got, you know well, they don't do Garm. Garm's falling apart, but thankfully. But at the same time, you still have people running around going, well, we've got this AI for brand safety. And so, yeah, you're you're deadening off, the the color the colorfulness of a good podcast. And instead of talking about, you know, your, podcast about, about porn recovery. Well, you can't talk about porn. You can't talk about the dangers of porn because, you know, anytime you mention porn, that's gonna be a ding against, against you for the, according to the AI.
So all of a sudden, you're doing a lot of a lot of good for people, but they're like, well, we can't be talk we can't be doing anything around porn. Well, I'm porn recovery. I'm helping keep guys away from porn. It's actually a very, you know, a very noble, venture to be, to be advertising on. And so, you know, to to be able to to advertise on that, you're going to block yourself because of this of what your topic is and the fact that there are is this brand safety thing, this whole we gotta be safe. We gotta make sure we keep our our, Yeah. Keep our keep our image impeccable.
[02:47:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And AI does not follow the, concept of common sense.
[02:47:28] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Nope. It is very, very, very literal.
[02:47:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know? So Collin Pinn's goes a long way, and we don't have any of that anymore. No. No. That's been that's been bred out of us in the past
[02:47:42] Bryan Goodwin:
past 2 generations at least.
[02:47:45] Rich Chelson:
Yep. But but see, though, that's where that's where using AI and stuff like that. Someone with common sense can actually take what it says and and, you know, make it in their mind.
[02:48:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely correct. You know? But, again, common sense is not so common anymore. Yeah. They have to People don't, you know, you know, for the most part, society is a bunch of sheeples.
[02:48:17] Rich Chelson:
Yes. A lot, Yeah. A lot of them are.
[02:48:21] Duuude-Ron :
You know, they say they think, you know, our self. Yeah. What's the word I'm looking for? The phrase I'm looking for. Yeah. Think for themselves and speak for themselves, but when it comes down to it, no. They're just gonna follow the you know, just follow along with the norm.
[02:48:46] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well well well, basically and and, I mean, you can see this in your own neighborhood. Okay? If someone buys a boat, everybody else buys a boat. If someone buys a golf cart, everybody else buys a golf cart. If someone buys a Chevy, it's, I mean, it's the same thing. You know, it's it's like everybody has to follow the leader. And this is why yeah. Yeah. I guess, like, I I guess I'd I I only have a couple friends, like, y'all because I don't follow the leader. I don't run out and buy the boat that everybody else buys or said, I don't even buy a boat. You know?
Right. You know, I don't I don't I don't play father leaders
[02:49:34] Duuude-Ron :
because Or or competing with the Joneses.
[02:49:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That too. You know? But but it's funny. You know? People say, oh, I'm I'm independent. I'm independent. No. I hate to say it, but she ain't. And then, oh my god. You just bursted their bubble. You broke their heart, you know, and they need to go talk to a therapist because they don't know how to how to handle that.
[02:50:02] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah. I'll yeah. I'll never compete with the Joneses. No. Me neither. Because usually the Joneses have a bottomless pocket. Well And they could knock themselves out.
[02:50:16] Rich Chelson:
No. They're just more in debt than you like everyone else is.
[02:50:20] Duuude-Ron :
Well yeah. Or they're gonna be more in debt than I am.
[02:50:24] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. And and that's yeah. Everything they have is on payments. Yep. And they don't have nothing paid off.
[02:50:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:50:38] Rich Chelson:
That's where I like having shit paid off. I I can't say that now because, you know, I have a house note, a roof note, a lawnmower note.
[02:50:46] Bryan Goodwin:
A car, no.
[02:50:48] Rich Chelson:
So oh god. Yeah. Thank you for thanks for that for being there. Good dude. I appreciate that. Yeah. Car, no. No. You're right. Car, no. So yeah. So yeah. I can't say that, but I am limiting everything and trying to get shit paid off as soon as possible.
[02:51:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I can agree with that. Because
[02:51:15] Rich Chelson:
oh, man. When I had my house paid off up north, my Jeep paid off, I mean, I owed nothing. Oh my god. I was like, wow. That was awesome.
[02:51:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And look at you now. Right? Only, what, a quarter of a $1,000,000 in debt?
[02:51:36] Rich Chelson:
No. Not not quite.
[02:51:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, do you okay. How much do you own the house?
[02:51:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, we ain't gotta go on there. We're we're not gonna go into that. But, anyway I'm tell you what. One 8 1 8th of a, of a $1,000,000 in debt. How about that? We're we're closer. No. I don't care. It's 7:30 seconds. 7:30 seconds. How about that? Say my Jeep,
[02:52:00] Rich Chelson:
total on my roof, say, I'm probably about 180.
[02:52:07] Duuude-Ron :
180? Okay. Alright. Give or take. Yeah. Yeah. So you were at Bureau at one time, now you're a $180,000 in debt.
[02:52:16] Rich Chelson:
Yep. And that was just because I got too cold and decided to move.
[02:52:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:52:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:52:29] Duuude-Ron :
Now you're competing with the Joneses.
[02:52:32] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No.
[02:52:34] Duuude-Ron :
To see to see how much further you can go into debt.
[02:52:38] Rich Chelson:
No. Oh, God, no. Oh, hell no. Hey. I'm the only I'm the only one that got a new roof around here. I ain't no other motherfucker getting a new roof.
[02:52:53] Duuude-Ron :
Well, well No. I didn't say for a new roof, but, you know, just overall, you know, gotta put shit on a credit card and, you know, gotta have rims and tires for the Jeep and a lift for the Jeep. Well, let's just put it on the credit card. Oh, no. No. No. No. You see, that's why that's why
[02:53:13] Rich Chelson:
I've only done tires. I haven't done wheels yet. I would like to, but I can't. And I haven't done a lift yet because of the all this. It's like, I've got probably in a either next year or year and a half from now, I can possibly do this.
[02:53:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because you're gonna save up for it, not go into debt over it. Right. Yeah. Alright. I get you. I get you. Man. 4. PO Poe. PO Poe. That's right. PO Poe. Yeah. I can't wait. I cannot wait for June. Man, I can't wait for June.
[02:53:55] Rich Chelson:
Right? Because you won't be as PO PO.
[02:54:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I'll be $900 less of PO PO.
[02:54:07] Rich Chelson:
Right? That'd be a nice. Yeah. That'll be a nice bonus.
[02:54:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. It will. Yep. May, the Jeep will be paid off. That's 900 a month.
[02:54:22] Rich Chelson:
Damn.
[02:54:26] Duuude-Ron :
But I did it to, you know, for the fact of to have a, what, a 4 year loan versus a 6 year loan? Right. Yeah. I was just trying to get it paid off faster. So, yeah, I knew what I was getting into when I did that for No. $900 a month because that Jeep was see, I financed $50,000 and then I got 3 almost $4,000 under it.
[02:55:06] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:55:09] Duuude-Ron :
No. Got more debt. It's over 5,000 under it.
[02:55:17] Rich Chelson:
Yes. So you
[02:55:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it was $1200 when I bent the, drag link of the tire rod. That's $1200 just in parts.
[02:55:27] Rich Chelson:
But say this
[02:55:29] Duuude-Ron :
That won't happen again. Right. I'll break I'll break some joints now.
[02:55:35] Rich Chelson:
Right. I got you there. I mean, that's cheap. But but you see, $5,000, I could find a whole bunch of other shit to spend $5,000 on.
[02:55:45] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I yeah. I will not disagree with you on that at all. Well, no. I need
[02:55:54] Rich Chelson:
it. Either be a new drone or a camera.
[02:55:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Fuck fuck the, rock crawling. I wanna get me a drone.
[02:56:05] Rich Chelson:
There you go. There you go, man. Get a drone, dude. You can see if I gotta
[02:56:11] Duuude-Ron :
you know, I would rather much rather have a RC plane than have a drone or an RC helicopter
[02:56:21] Rich Chelson:
than have a drone. That would be cool. I've seen videos of the big RC helicopters. They're like, you know, they're like those guys I've heard I've heard some amounts. I don't know how true it is, but they're like $90,000, man. It's like, dude, you've got way too much fucking money. Yeah. But they're cool, man. It's it's like it's like Oh, yeah. They are. The size of a fucking helicopter. I mean, it's huge.
[02:56:49] Duuude-Ron :
I can't remember what movie celebrity. I'll probably they'll probably wake me up at 3 o'clock tomorrow morning of who this actually was. And if I do that, I will definitely call you, Rich. Okay. And let you know.
[02:57:04] Rich Chelson:
Because I because I know tomorrow's not coming. So it'll be today morning.
[02:57:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It'll be today morning at 3 o'clock in the morning. And then you're gonna say, what the fuck are you calling me at 3 o'clock in a goddamn morning for this goddamn bullshit? But, anyways, this this celebrity has a bardomidium for a lack lack of a better word. It's it's a house, but it looks like a barn. It's bigger than my house. This is his workshop for his RC planes, and he built himself a runway on his property so that he could launch his RC planes. He has a c 7 or c 5 a c 5 RC plane, and the wingspan is about 12 feet.
[02:58:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[02:58:02] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool.
[02:58:05] Duuude-Ron :
And it it I think that that airplane that he built was, like, you know, $50,000 to build that airplane.
[02:58:17] Rich Chelson:
That's crazy.
[02:58:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But that's just one of his RC planes. He had, a Learjet. He had, a fighter jet. I don't remember what model. He had the the c five, and then, you know, he has a lot of Marcy planes. But he built himself his own runway so he could launch his planes.
[02:58:50] Rich Chelson:
I'd say that'd be freaking cool.
[02:58:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It would be.
[02:58:54] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm looking at this, Blackhawk. Your 860 Blackhawk for $2,000.
[02:59:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And if you've never flown 1 before, you're gonna have it in the air for about 10 seconds, and then you're gonna crash land it. And that $2,000 just went to waste.
[02:59:20] Rich Chelson:
I'll cry. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. It's a 1 eighth scale.
[02:59:26] Duuude-Ron :
1 eighth?
[02:59:27] Rich Chelson:
1 eighth. Yeah. The size of real Blackhawk.
[02:59:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So the the rotor span is what? Probably about 5 feet? No. Probably about 4 feet.
[02:59:44] Rich Chelson:
I'd say 4 feet. Yeah. Just just by the looks of the rotors. Yeah. About 4 foot.
[02:59:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:59:52] Rich Chelson:
That's I mean, that's crazy. Uh-huh. Yeah. To get everything for it would be about $34100, Like, the remote control and all this other stuff.
[03:00:06] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, so the it just it's just the helicopter for 2,000. Then you have to get all the fucking servos and all that other shit. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Maybe if I maybe when I win the lottery tomorrow night, I'll think about it.
[03:00:25] Rich Chelson:
See, that would be cool as shit, though.
[03:00:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It would. Now to have that and put a camera up underneath of it like a drone, now that would be cool. Yeah. You
[03:00:41] Rich Chelson:
you could figure out a way to do that. It wouldn't be that hard. Oh, yeah. Oh, do
[03:00:47] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. But I'd rather have that versus having a drone. But that's just wrong.
[03:00:56] Rich Chelson:
What did drones ever do to you, man?
[03:01:03] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. Kinda pissed me off maybe once. I don't know.
[03:01:09] Rich Chelson:
I just had to give you shit, dude. I know. But, yeah, that would be cool to have a fucking Blackhawk like that. Oh, shit. But, yeah, I'm not spending that oh, man. A Chinook. Oh, I love a Chinook.
[03:01:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that would even be a lot harder to maneuver.
[03:01:33] Rich Chelson:
I wouldn't doubt it. It'd still be cool, though.
[03:01:37] Duuude-Ron :
You're right. It would be. But, actually, the a Chinook is harder to maneuver than a single rotor is.
[03:01:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I can believe it, man. I can definitely believe it. Man, got me freaking looking at all these RC helicopters. And there's ones that aren't $2,000. There's, like, one for, 270. Another one here for 5.94.
[03:02:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[03:02:16] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[03:02:18] Duuude-Ron :
I would definitely start with the cheap shit before you go out and crash land the bit the high dollar one.
[03:02:26] Rich Chelson:
Well, if you ever come by and see me flying upside down, yeah, you know I'm having fun.
[03:02:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah.
[03:02:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was funny. A guy that, that had taught me how to drive a truck years ago. He always said, if he ever won the lottery, he was gonna buy a freaking helicopter. He didn't care. He was gonna go out and buy a helicopter. And he looked at me and told me he said he said he said, if you ever see me flying upside down, don't worry about it. I'm dead. Good. I mean I mean, he he was in Vietnam. Okay? And, he had rode in helicopters, and he he just loved helicopters. He wanted to always fly 1. He's like, if I win the lottery, I'm gonna buy a fucking helicopter. He says, I'm gonna be on the news. I guarantee it. I'm gonna be on the news for flying upside down. I said, alright, dude.
I'll just I'll just come scoop you up. He says, alright. But, yeah, he was yeah. He he never did win the lottery. Yeah.
[03:03:36] Duuude-Ron :
They helped me. I just get a couple more Jeeps and a couple of hot rods, and I'll be done. I would definitely not have a car collection like, Jay Leno has.
[03:03:53] Rich Chelson:
Why not, dude?
[03:03:57] Duuude-Ron :
He's only got a couple 1,000 vehicles in his collection.
[03:04:00] Bryan Goodwin:
So Yeah. But good grief. He's gotten horrible luck. You see that he fell, like, 60 feet off a cliff earlier this week?
[03:04:07] Rich Chelson:
No. What was he doing?
[03:04:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. But he was apparently 6 feet up in the air on a cliff and decided to go topple off of it. And somebody needs to wrap him up in in bubble wrap. I mean, hell, he's blown himself up in 1 car, had a motorcycle wreck a couple years later, and now he's tumbled. He he's being he's chucking himself off a cliff. So
[03:04:33] Rich Chelson:
Lord.
[03:04:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The only the only thing I can say about that is ouch.
[03:04:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. His face is all bruised up. It's it's pretty wild. But before we go, wanted to, I was watching, Yellowstone and it caused me to, and on the yellow on, I'm watching season 3. It's the one with, with the girl, teeter in it. And there's an old, trusty old cowboy who's, who's a bad guy. And we watched it through there and I mean, he looked kind of familiar, but didn't really strike it anything to me Until the after they spoilers if you the crusty old cowboy ends up getting killed. I'm not gonna tell you how he gets killed, but he gets killed pretty wild way. But he gets killed. And at the end of that episode, it said in loving memory of Wilford Brimley.
[03:05:29] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no way. Yeah.
[03:05:32] Bryan Goodwin:
He's in, he was in, in Yellowstone. The funny thing is it got me it got me to wonder. It's like, holy shit. I thought he'd already died. He'd and come to find out he died back in 2020. No way. Really? Yeah. I thought he died like in 2000 or something, like 2,005 or something.
[03:05:51] Rich Chelson:
Wow.
[03:05:52] Bryan Goodwin:
I didn't know he did. Here here's the kick to the dick that got me, though. Do you know how old he was when he did Cocoon? No. K. What would, who was he in cocoon? He was an old guy at him and his FA his friends and his wife were all living in a retirement community. They all looked 11ty. Right? Mhmm. He was 51 years old when he made cocoon. He is my fucking age.
[03:06:30] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[03:06:32] Bryan Goodwin:
It's like, no wonder I have a hard time believing that I'm 51. Because everybody before me that was 51 that I looked to, I thought they were, you know, 70, 80 years old, which is what I thought Wilford Brimley was there in in Cocoon. Right. But no. No. Fucker was 51 years old. Hell. Yeah.
[03:06:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. It's it. You see, that's the thing. We don't realize just how much toll life takes, you know, until until How hard how how harder life was back then, apparently. Good grief. Right. Right. And, see, that's the thing. You know, when you look at yourself in the mirror, I mean, you don't think of of it really until, you know, someone says something or or you see someone you know you know that is almost the same age as you. And you're like, oh, fuck. I don't look like that, do I? And then you start like, oh, shit. Yeah, dude.
[03:07:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, and then you go off and you look like Kevin Costner in Yellowstone. He looks like he may be late fifties to mid sixties. Right. He doesn't look that fucking old. But he I mean, granted, he's not he's not Tom Cruise. Let we're gonna drink the, the tears of virgins to stay young type of type of, of looking young. But he looks he looks young. Well, he's younger than Wilford Brimley was back in Cocoon. Right. But he's older than Wilford what Wilford Brimley was back in Cocoon. He's like 65, 70?
[03:08:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. 69.
[03:08:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Cool. I mean, it's like holy smokes. And I mean, Jesus Christ and all the other, you know, words that mean holy shit. It's just you have somebody like Wilford Brimley and and, you know, what were some, what were some of the, Ernest Berg nine. Right. Right. I mean, there's a lot of guys you solved, and they were like going, oh god. Those are old sons of bitches. And come to find out, no, they were just middle aged motherfuckers. It's like, goddamn, man. I I don't know how to feel about that. I'm it's like part of me is going, well, okay. At least I now know that I'm not old. But I'm as old as he was, and he looks horrible.
[03:09:01] Rich Chelson:
Right. And so it's it's yeah. It's a scary thought. You know? I mean, it's a scary thought because, you know, we don't think of ourselves like that No. Until an until we get a stark contrast of someone that that we've known for years and didn't realize, you know, how old they were, and it's like, oh, shit. They're the same age I am.
[03:09:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[03:09:26] Rich Chelson:
The hell? What happened? You know? It's like it's like, why do I look that old? And, well, it's the stress we've put ourselves through in life.
[03:09:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[03:09:40] Rich Chelson:
You know? But it can be I wouldn't say totally change, but you can get it to where it's not as bad. You know? Or you don't think it's as bad. At least at least for me, I've noticed that since I've been down here and and, you know, with my overall, whatever you wanna call it, I I think I look a little younger than what I did even a year and a half ago. Because a year and a half ago, I looked like I was fucking damn near 70. I was a fat 70 year old man. And what? I was only 53. And now I look, yeah, late fifties.
[03:10:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[03:10:37] Rich Chelson:
You know? So Yeah.
[03:10:39] Duuude-Ron :
And how much weight have you lost in that time frame?
[03:10:43] Rich Chelson:
At least 30 or £40 that I know of.
[03:10:46] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. That makes a difference.
[03:10:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So so yeah. I mean, I mean, between losing weight, changing my mindset, changing changing everything, it's it's caused a lot of the anguish that I had, for lack of a better word. I can't it's it's late. My mind, yeah, is saying fuck you. But, you know, I've I've gotten rid of that, so I've noticed my features have softened a little. They're not as hardened. I don't know. I'm just talking up my ass now. I don't know what
[03:11:26] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm serious. My mind is boobard right now. Yeah. Well, it is after 10 o'clock. So guys, let's go ahead and we'll start wrapping her up. Guys, we run this show via the value for value model, which means we're not gonna ask we're not gonna run the the the, the commercials. We're not gonna ask you to go off and buy a mattress from Casper. We're not gonna ask you to do any of the crazy things like that. It's what do you think you're we did, and how do you how would you rate us as a as a episode? Were we good, bad, indifferent? What do you think that value was? Do you think it was worth, you know, a dollar, $5, $10, $20, whatever.
That is the the glory of value for value. You can give what you feel like you're able to, to give. And if you are, things are going kind of tight, granted the economy is fixed to be turning around and things are gonna be, you know, a lot better. We're gonna, we're gonna have a, have a, a lower sense of of prices, though, you know, we gotta get deflation in in in effect before we can, really start celebrating. But it's, you know, if you feel like you can't afford to throw, you know, fiat currency over to us, you could also be able to throw over, just some of your time or some of your talent. Maybe you wanna take time to fill out our our chapter art and and set up chapters for us. You're able to do that. You just let us know what you wanna do, and we'll give you opportunity if you wanna be able to to take the, or to design, the the the cover art and the chapter art for us. Hey, man. We got we we'd love to have that, have that help too.
We get we have a lot of different things that, if you see, like, see something that could be, a spot that could be filled and you'd like to try to fill it, then reach out. Touch, touch base with either me. And my email is circlecast, [email protected], or you can get ahold of Rich over at rchelson, c h e l s o n, at g mail dot com also. And let us know, hey, man. I wanna wanna help you out in such such so and so. We'd love love to have you help, get to help out. We get your things set up so that you are able to do that. We, so it's not just a, just money. We're not asking for just money, but, you know, the money does help us. We're able to pay for the hosting fees and the other things that we use to be able to get this show up and moving, rolling, and and and all that. So you're able to help us to be able to help you have a good time, have plenty to listen to as we, as we gammer throughout the, throughout the week. So, guys, I wanna appreciate everything you've done. Appreciate, all that you've, all that you've seen, heard, and, and laughed at. And if there's anything that you found just absolutely hilarious, please share it out with your friends, share it out with your your family, and and all that. And, love to have, have us have you reach out to us, talk to us. So, anyhow, guys, thanks again for, for listening. Rich, what do you got to say for your closing shots?
[03:14:42] Rich Chelson:
No. Not too much. Just, you know, kinda what you said there. Just thank you for listening, and, yeah, share this out, You know, whether we made you happy, laugh, or, you know, pissed off or whatever, share it out. You know? Laugh at us. We don't care. It's not gonna hurt our feelings. We don't need a safe space. But, yeah. Thank you all for listening and downloading our episodes. It still it still gets me that, how many downloads we get for, each episode because this is not, episode 32. And, I mean, it's just unreal what what we've done just in a short amount of time. It's just I'm so thankful and everything. So, yeah, share this out and, you know, let us know what you think, whether it's good, better, or indifferent.
We don't care. Send as Brian said, send us an email, [email protected] atgmail.com for Brian. And, if if you wanna leave a message for the dude, just email one of us. We will make sure the dude gets it. We might even read your email on the air and answer it on the air. So that'll give you a reason to come back and have your friends, hell, grab your favorite beverage and tune in live. We're doing lives every week. So, you know, grab your favorite beverage, your friends, and yell at us, scream at us, or whatever. Send us emails. We don't care. Talk to us. We'll talk back. I promise you, we'll talk back. So, anyway, that's a lot of, you know. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah. Thank you guys again, and, y'all have a great week. And we won't be on next week because it's Thanksgiving.
So, we're gonna take that week off. So this episode will come out Monday. So the following Monday, we won't have an episode come out. So, but we will be back after that. Don't worry about that. Dude, what you got?
[03:16:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly, dude. What you got?
[03:16:57] Duuude-Ron :
You know, as always, it's a, wonderful time to be able to chitchat with these 2 grumpy old vets and, you know, have to see what they have to say to entertain all of us. But again, like Brian and Rich has said, you know, thank you very much for listening to us and, you know, enjoying what we may or may not say. Or, you know, you can laugh. You can cry. You can kiss $5 goodbye. You know? But let us know what you're thinking and, how we are, affecting you that you come back and listen to us every week. So definitely give us a holler or shout out and, let us know how we're doing.
And that's that's all I have. So alright, guys.
[03:17:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Well, guys, y'all have yourselves a good rest of the week. Guys, all of y'all listening, thanks again for listening, and, we will see y'all or talk to y'all here in a a couple weeks. So, guys, thanks again. Talk to y'all later. Till then. Bye.
[03:18:12] Duuude-Ron :
See you. Y'all have a good good thanksgiving. Alright? You too. Alright. You too. See y'all. Alright. Alright. Bye.
Hey, man. Hello. And welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian Rich and the dude. Bitcoin has won. It's be Reporting in progress.
[00:00:37] Rich Chelson:
Get ready for some fun. The Alright. This is Brian. Yeah. What's up?
[00:00:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Not a wolf. There we go. Zoom's open. Put my ears in.
[00:01:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's good. It's dinged once. Okay. I heard it the first time. I'd make me think I'm I'm I'm on repeat or something.
[00:01:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you know.
[00:01:14] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that's good. There we go. And
[00:01:17] Bryan Goodwin:
retire. Restart. Alright. Now let's turn the pod track on, and and there we go. Almost there. Still booting up. Come on. Reading SD cards. Take time reset. Yes, of course. Still have big batteries in there. Done. Alright. There we go. Alright.
[00:01:47] Rich Chelson:
Are you good now?
[00:01:52] Bryan Goodwin:
I am now.
[00:01:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh my lord. Okay. You say so, dude.
[00:01:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Say something?
[00:02:01] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. I said I said, if you say so, dude. Oh, yeah. Well, I always say so.
[00:02:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I don't know. What do I have that's turned all the way the fuck up? That could be it.
[00:02:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's exactly what I was thinking on my end because I'm sitting here just like, you're especially loud in my ears to me. And I I look over and my my knob is, was was turned up. I'm like, well, no fucking wonder.
[00:02:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I was sitting at 8. I was like going, god dang, man. Everything's loud. Right.
[00:02:32] Rich Chelson:
Right. And that's the thing. I normally don't have to turn my volume up. You know? Not normally. No. You know? I mean I mean, some days it, you know, it depends. You know? My my hearing isn't what it used to be. But It is being very selective. I agree. Yeah. Some days it is, but, no, most days it isn't. I just yeah. I don't hear shit. Well, I mean, honestly, yeah, could be you could call it selective, but I don't know.
[00:03:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Well, Ron's been notified, so we'll see. Get him to pop on when he gets in here. So what have you been up to this week?
[00:03:18] Rich Chelson:
Well, last weekend, actually, I had forgotten all about this. And I caught it before it started, which was cool, but, worked to contest over the weekend. So
[00:03:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. So what was the what was it about the what was the contest about?
[00:03:36] Rich Chelson:
It was, November sweepstakes for the a, double r, l. So, basically, what what I had to do was contact try and make a contact in in, all 50 states, and some of the states had multiple areas. And then, all of the provinces in, say, Canada. Oh, okay. And everything. And so I didn't do too bad. I I I think I made, 51 different areas between the US and Canada. I I talked to I talked to a 100 and ah, fuck. I didn't even look today. Like, a 103, a 104 people, maybe a few more. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Scored like 12,000 points. I was like I was like I was happy.
[00:04:29] Bryan Goodwin:
So so what do you get to do with those points? Get to trade them in for tokens like a Chuck E. Cheese or anything?
[00:04:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. Honestly, is there still a Chuck E. Cheese open? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There's still a few.
[00:04:45] Bryan Goodwin:
I I didn't know. I mean, I I haven't seen a Chuck E. Cheese in a long time. But I know there's I don't know if it's still open. I know there used to be one over in, over in Amarillo, and kiddo is talking about, for for, like, 3rd birthday of of for Nugget that, that would go to Chuck E. Cheese, and I'm going, let's go to mister Gaddy's. Come on. Mister Gaddy's is so much better. Tastes so much better. It's got better food. It's got, it's got a salad bar and that's just, you know, why almost almost rivals, Golden Corral. Not quite, but it almost there.
[00:05:22] Rich Chelson:
Wow. But but see, the thing is a 3 year old is gonna have freaking nightmares because that rat's gonna come out and just scare the dead out of it.
[00:05:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Only if he comes out walking around and sneaks up behind her and gives her a big old hug, which I shouldn't do because I told Lexi. He's like, well, if you do that, don't tell him that you're having a birthday party or we'll end up having to pay 4 times the amount.
[00:05:49] Rich Chelson:
Well, see, that I know about, I do know, Rayzie had one of her birthdays there Uh-huh. When, she was little. Oh, hell. Yeah. Hell no. Uh-huh. That was not happening, dude. And and that's the thing. This girl had not been scared by anything ever from that time she was born. But
[00:06:14] Bryan Goodwin:
but she, saw that round. She she braved Santa Claus, but gosh, darn it, Chuck E. Cheese come out. It's all it was a hell no.
[00:06:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. It was yeah. It was, yeah. It was no, but my no, but hell fuck no. And and she was 3 saying that shit. And it's like, damn, girl. No. But yeah. Seriously, Breezy yeah. Yeah. Breezy didn't like it. And, Yeah. I've I've and it's just like it's crazy, man. But now these these points, basically, what they do is add them up and then, compare them to other people, like like, in your category of of, and state and all like that. Uh-huh. They rank everybody. I mean I mean I mean, basically, you know, if you win, it's just like bragging rights.
[00:07:06] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:07:06] Rich Chelson:
You might get a plaque. I mean, I don't do it for
[00:07:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I just do it just to have fun. Right. Right. Just just see how far you can get.
[00:07:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Pretty much. Okay. And and, I mean yeah. I I got to talk to Alaska, Hawaii, Oregon, California, Nevada, Utah, Montana, North Dakota. I think I got Wyoming. I'm not a 100%, but I think I got Wyoming.
[00:07:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:07:37] Rich Chelson:
California had, like, 10 different sections.
[00:07:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Of course.
[00:07:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But but I nailed all but one, I think. And then, Arizona, of course. Don't think I got New Mexico. Texas. Got a couple in Texas. I mean, just they were just spread all over. You know, I got Saskatchewan, British Columbia, Prince Edward Island, and a few other places, up in the north country. You know? So I mean Right. Yeah. It was fun. I enjoyed it.
[00:08:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Prince Edward's island. Yeah. That's yeah. That that gets me laughing because I because there after because and that's just one of those one of those, one of those those chuckling things that you, you you get. So, you know, you got, you know, you got your jokes like prince Edward in a can. Yeah. But then there's also prince Edward sound. And there's prince Edward island. And there's prince Edward island. Yeah. And so what's you know, you got, you got the prince, prince Edward sound of going. That's what I've always I've always heard.
People so you ever heard of a prince Edward sound? It's like, no. That's that's that's 5 year old in me. Sorry.
[00:09:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, if you wanna if you wanna make money, just, go to a bar and just drink Coke. You you don't even have to drink whiskey or anything. And bet someone $5 that, there's a Prince Edward Island. You'll come out. Shit. She won't have to work for a week. Because that's the thing. I mean, a lot of people, they'd be like, what? Where the fuck's that? That's up in Canada. It's in the water. Yeah. It's it literally is. So, it's off the mainland, but it's still owned by Canada. So, yeah, that's that's what I did last weekend
[00:10:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:10:04] Rich Chelson:
And everything. I found out found out today that I still have $50 in Bitcoin.
[00:10:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it did have. I sold it. Oh, went ahead and just sold it.
[00:10:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but, I bought Solana with it.
[00:10:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Went off and sold your Bitcoin even though it just it's hit $99,000 a coin.
[00:10:32] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I did. Yes. I did. And and and the reason is, current well, I didn't sell it. I I just I I just switched it over to another crypto. I, I, bought Solana. In the past year, it has gone up $200.
[00:10:55] Bryan Goodwin:
There you go. And
[00:10:58] Rich Chelson:
and it's expected because since, since the election, everyone's expecting the stock market and everything to be a a bull market. Right. So, you know, I figured, okay. You know, let's see what's up. And and then I jumped on Coinbase for, like, the first time in freaking ever.
[00:11:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They changed that up a bit, haven't they? Yeah. Just a little bit.
[00:11:23] Rich Chelson:
Not sure if I like it. I mean, honestly, no. I don't. But in in I had a whole bunch of little, say, crypto dust. Yeah. I was freaking I've got 33¢ of Ethereum. And do you know it is still staked? I can't unlock it yet.
[00:11:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It takes, 13 days to unstake
[00:11:46] Rich Chelson:
it. No, dude. There's not even an option for me to,
[00:11:50] Bryan Goodwin:
unstake it. Oh, it's too small for for it. Yeah.
[00:11:55] Rich Chelson:
Could be. Could be. But yeah. No. It's yeah. Because yeah. In Ethereum, I've only got, like, 33¢. Wow. So yeah. But, actually, I took dude's advice. And I know, dude. You're like What? Yeah. Right. No
[00:12:13] Duuude-Ron :
fucking way.
[00:12:15] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I did. Yes. I did. Because you see, check this out. On a Coinbase, you can learn about different cryptocurrencies. And when I looked on the learning rewards thing, they offered, Saleo and another one. And and if I, you know, read their stuff and then answered a question, I got so much of of that crypto. Well, I did the I did those 2 only so far because about halfway in, they were like, oh, you need to download this wallet and fund it, and then we'll give you 5 extra dollars. No. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, fuck. That bullshit. Yeah. Right.
[00:12:59] Bryan Goodwin:
And I did that with, there's one called Ronin. And I even went as far as I actually threw, like, $5 in there. Whatever it was they were asking wasn't very much.
[00:13:09] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:13:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It never carried over. So I never got the, got the extra $4 or whatever it was they were supposed to give to fund it. So I was like, yeah. Okay. Never mind. You you guys are a bunch a bunch of freaking Oh, yeah. Yeah. Got it. What is that? There was used to be a a game website, and it was something that
[00:13:33] Rich Chelson:
Hold on. Let me finish what I was gonna say because Okay. Okay. This is about dude. Okay? Because I did that with the Leo, and I did that with, fuck, coin or core. Core. And I got, like, $8 or $9. Right? So I waited till they hit my Coinbase account, and then I bought, like, $9 worth of, XRP. And and, actually, the reason I did is because a couple weeks ago, dude was saying something about XRP and Yeah. Last week. Yeah. Yeah. And, I got to thinking about it and looked it up a little more and everything like this just to, you know, find out more about it because I, you know, I didn't know, you know, much about it. And I was like, you know what? I could see this possibly and plus a few articles I had read.
A lot of them are, a lot of people are saying XRP is poised to do good in the next 5 to 6 years. So
[00:14:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. If I had about, $5,000, I'd put it in the XRP, Solana, and there was one character coin. I can't I don't remember the name of it that I would invest in those 3. And the character coin, it was like a 631% gain over, I think, a 6 month period. Now each one of the coins is less than a penny.
[00:15:24] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:15:25] Duuude-Ron :
Granted. However, you know, what happens when that particular coin gets to a dollar?
[00:15:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, exactly. But you see the thing is the way to invest, set up your recurring buy, dude. 5 or $10 a month or $20 a month. Set up a recurring buy. You don't need the money all right now.
[00:15:51] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know. But it would be nice.
[00:15:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, right. I mean, come on now. You know? I mean, yeah, it would be great if I had $5,000. No. Honestly, because I'd be I'd be paying it on my roof probably. But Well, probably. But still, you know, just freaking set up a freaking, recurring buy and just and just go for it that way.
[00:16:17] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, I'll get with you at a later date for couple some of your some of your technical advice.
[00:16:27] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I just yeah. It had been oh, god. April April was when I was, that had last been in Kraken. In Coinbase, it had been well over a year since I had been in it. And, I was like, Now I just need to figure out how to get my XRP off of, Coinbase and onto Kraken.
[00:16:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Should be able to just send it from, send it over to, over to Kraken.
[00:17:02] Rich Chelson:
I I'm not sure. Kinda started looking and I I don't know if I can because they're, they're at 2 different exchanges.
[00:17:16] Bryan Goodwin:
No. It it doesn't matter to the exchange. It matters on the blockchain. Because you could buy Bitcoin and send it to Kraken. It's on because it's on the same blockchain.
[00:17:31] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. I would need to yeah, I'd need to match the blockchain between both of them. I'll look into it tomorrow. Like I said, I I was I was going down this rabbit hole this afternoon. I looked down. It's like 5 o'clock, and I'm like, oh, hell no. Be I'm not I'm not going down any more rabbit holes because I know if I do and I don't eat, it's gonna be podcasting time. I'm a be fucking hungry. I'm a be pissed off. No. So I stopped. And then I went and ate because I was like Well, good for you. By god, I mean, if You're the man.
[00:18:10] Duuude-Ron :
Man, Fab Boy's got a good the magic in his own mind.
[00:18:16] Rich Chelson:
I'm serious. I you see, I know me because, I mean, I was I was I I was still doing research and stuff, and I was like I I just had to look at the time. I'm just like, no. If I ain't careful, next thing I know, it'll be podcast I'll be running late. So Yeah. That's why I was like, no. I ain't doing it. I'll wait till tomorrow. I got I got I got I can do it tomorrow.
[00:18:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there's always tomorrow. Well, no. There's never a tomorrow. You know that. Right? There's never a tomorrow.
[00:18:56] Rich Chelson:
Please elaborate.
[00:18:58] Duuude-Ron :
Because it's always today. You will never see tomorrow ever.
[00:19:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[00:19:11] Duuude-Ron :
Because it is today. So yesterday's tomorrow turned in today without even seeing tomorrow.
[00:19:26] Rich Chelson:
What do you see? The night.
[00:19:31] Duuude-Ron :
The only way you're gonna see tomorrow let's see. How does that work? No. Because you'd be going to
[00:19:45] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. Holy. I can say tomorrow just just watch it as far as, UTC time. Right? I don't know, dude. Dude is throwing some freaking profoundness, Brian. What's up? I mean, it's cool as shit. Okay? It's cool as shit, but dude is throwing dude is throwing some major vibes. Oh, man. This is cool. My mind's all, yeah, fuckered up right now, but because I'm still trying to figure out that.
[00:20:20] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So what else is new? That that hasn't changed in the time that I have met you, and I'm sure that it was like that before we ever even met.
[00:20:32] Rich Chelson:
And it's not it's not likely to change in the future either. It's probably not likely to change in the future. Because I've been this way for a long damn time.
[00:20:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:20:48] Rich Chelson:
So, Brian Yep. If you remember, what was you starting to say? It was about cryptocurrencies.
[00:20:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, good. No. I was just saying
[00:21:03] Rich Chelson:
I can't remember. So
[00:21:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It was, Yeah. Yeah. It was something something very, very intense and and and mentally stimulating. And yeah. Yeah. God deemed it too too great for us to hear and and flushed it down, flushed it down the toilet.
[00:21:27] Duuude-Ron :
Man, it was so important. We got screwed. Yeah. What the fuck?
[00:21:35] Rich Chelson:
Man, That's just like I'm bummed now, man.
[00:21:40] Duuude-Ron :
Like, well, we all fucking get in CRS. So, you know, I can't remember shit.
[00:21:52] Rich Chelson:
No. That's true. Oh, no. I I've I have really noticed that in the last couple weeks.
[00:21:59] Duuude-Ron :
Well, like you have mentioned several times, your your PECR is longer than your,
[00:22:09] Rich Chelson:
Memory?
[00:22:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Memory.
[00:22:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It is. It is. Not by much, but by goodness. Yeah. I yeah. I have I have side you you know what's bad? I got notepads fucking everywhere to write shit down, and I forget where I write this shit down at. And I don't find it for 2 weeks afterwards, and I'm like, why the hell I wrote that down? I forgot why I even wrote it down.
[00:22:37] Bryan Goodwin:
And then,
[00:22:39] Rich Chelson:
like, oh, shit. I remember. And then by the time I walk into the other room or check, get even halfway to the other room, I don't forget why I'm walking into that other room, and I I ain't even crossing the table yet.
[00:22:52] Duuude-Ron :
And then and then you can't remember where you set the notebook down just that you had 30 seconds ago.
[00:22:59] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's true. I have Yes? I mean, the struggle is real, man. Oh, I know. It's like, fuck.
[00:23:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Especially when you're talking to a Jeep Jeep and a 10 millimeter socket.
[00:23:12] Rich Chelson:
God.
[00:23:15] Bryan Goodwin:
What's up, Brian? I was gonna let you know. I was just trying sending over, XRP over to, over to Kraken. You have to have 22 XRP coins before you can send, minimum to be able to send over to Kraken.
[00:23:30] Rich Chelson:
Really? And that's from and, that's from coin? Coinbase to to, Kraken. Yeah. So I have to have a minimum of of 22.
[00:23:40] Bryan Goodwin:
XRP coins. Yep.
[00:23:42] Rich Chelson:
XRP coins. Okay. Yeah. Give me about a week or so, and, yeah, I I will have more than enough.
[00:23:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:23:49] Rich Chelson:
What was the fee on it? I mean, that'll change. I know. But No. I don't know.
[00:23:56] Bryan Goodwin:
That depends on how much you had you you're sending. I was trying to send, what we have to send, $3.90.
[00:24:06] Rich Chelson:
Right. Oh, it, oh, it didn't even show a fee?
[00:24:11] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Not not that I saw. So Okay. Alright. Let me try one more time to see your face. It might just kinda break out a bit. It's not working. Bye. Say what?
[00:24:26] Rich Chelson:
Nothing. I've just been a smartass man. It's cold. Okay?
[00:24:35] Duuude-Ron :
It's cold. K. So we paste.
[00:24:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Now we don't do the tag. So max. Ta ta. So that's oh, right. XRP is dropping. We're down to $3.88.
[00:24:54] Rich Chelson:
And you What's the coin? 389. No. XRP is 3.99.
[00:25:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Trending down on the 99 a coin? No. No. No. It's like a dollar 20 something. Yeah. So yeah. No. You can't tell it. When you hit try to hit preview, it goes, you know, minimum amount you can send is 22, 22 XRPs. Just the best. So fine. Fuck you.
[00:25:21] Rich Chelson:
Okay. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. I'll I'll build up my XRP and go for it. Yeah. No. My, yeah, Yeah. XRP was at a dollar 11 this morning. And, see, where's it at right now?
[00:25:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Or at 2.95. RC at, a dollar 33. So 5. Correct. A dollar 32.
[00:25:52] Rich Chelson:
Okay. It's jumped up, 20¢ since the, this morning. Yep. Since about noon.
[00:26:03] Bryan Goodwin:
So Yeah. I ended up having to grab a I ended up screwing up on some, some financial stuff, and I needed a quick quick buck. So I ended up having to flush all my, my all my Litecoin that I had. So I'm having to restart on it. I'm back and, hell, it's already back up to $67. So That's cool. It's gone it it it's not growing, you know, like, horrendous or, like, stupidly fast, but, see, within the month, it's gone 27%.
[00:26:31] Rich Chelson:
That's cool. Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. SOL is, yeah, jumped up $206 in a year. And it's it's it's ranked number 4 on the market scale right now. So, yeah, I can't. I couldn't pass it up.
[00:27:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Good night. Yeah. I'm busy just trying to I'm I'm just trying to get to, one full coin, Ethereum, which, I mean, it's still fairly low. It's at only at 3,000. So
[00:27:10] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, that's the thing. That's the thing. Freaking it there. It's been at $3,000 now for 3 years. 2, 3 years.
[00:27:21] Bryan Goodwin:
It ain't changing. It got see here. Within last year, actually, with within the year, it got down to 1,985.
[00:27:32] Rich Chelson:
And
[00:27:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. But the max max has been March, it got it climbed all the way up to 4,000.
[00:27:39] Rich Chelson:
Did he hit 4? Yep.
[00:27:41] Bryan Goodwin:
49333 or 53.
[00:27:44] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But but you see it's in in, say when it forked, the, forked side of Ethereum is only at $25. 25 or 26, somewhere around there is what it was saying earlier.
[00:28:03] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm. I was looking.
[00:28:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And I'm like, really?
[00:28:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, Ethereum Classic. Yeah. That's actually a little bit different.
[00:28:13] Rich Chelson:
No. That's the same. It that's Ethereum Classic is, the forked version of Ethereum. Because when when it split, I was holding Ethereum, and then it had and then it popped up, Ethereum classic.
[00:28:35] Bryan Goodwin:
There's Ethereum and then there Ethereum 2.0 came out, but then it turned around and, was formed, folded back into, Ethereum, I thought.
[00:28:49] Rich Chelson:
That's very possible. But still, it's only holding it, you know, 33100.
[00:28:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:29:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. XRP right now is a a dollar 32. So it's like, I I could do that.
[00:29:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Still wish I had Bitcoin back when it was 6¢ apiece.
[00:29:17] Rich Chelson:
I'd have been happy with a $100, man. Oh, hell yeah. I mean, you know, I'd have been happy with, yeah, that because, yeah, I'd be sitting on on almost a $100. My god.
[00:29:36] Bryan Goodwin:
100 grand? Nothing? You'd be sitting on you had a $100?
[00:29:42] Rich Chelson:
What's a no. Shit. That's right. What? 10,000,000? It'd be almost a 100,000,000. No. I'd be I'd be 10,000,000, wouldn't I?
[00:29:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Let's see here. I don't know. I'm too damn good looking for freaking math. What are you godly, you gotta make make me do math now. Man,
[00:29:59] Rich Chelson:
you ain't good looking on Amtrak.
[00:30:03] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm too good looking for math.
[00:30:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it's and it's definitely too late in the day to be doing that shit.
[00:30:11] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. It's Super, man. Yeah. 10,000,000. Yeah.
[00:30:15] Bryan Goodwin:
9,900,000.
[00:30:19] Rich Chelson:
So I could deal with that. I could deal with that. Well, it's 5
[00:30:27] Duuude-Ron :
6 o'clock in the morning is too late in the day to be dealing with a man.
[00:30:37] Rich Chelson:
That's why I use a calculator a lot of times because I don't I don't trust my brain. So, dude, what have you been up to?
[00:30:54] Duuude-Ron :
Did I lose everybody?
[00:30:56] Rich Chelson:
Nope. We're here. You all break it out, I think.
[00:31:02] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, that's not uncommon either with, you know, my phone.
[00:31:07] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. But it is early in the evening, but still, it's not uncommon.
[00:31:16] Duuude-Ron :
No. Not at all.
[00:31:19] Rich Chelson:
So so what what adventures did you, encounter today?
[00:31:27] Duuude-Ron :
Me?
[00:31:28] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah.
[00:31:30] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, let's see. You know, for it getting being to getting close to the holiday weekend Mhmm. The traffic on 35 is actually still pretty light. And I say that and I say that now and tomorrow because I have to travel about, oh, 2 hours on 35 tomorrow going north. And I say that, and it'll fucking probably be bumper to bumper.
[00:32:10] Rich Chelson:
Well, you just jinxed yourself, dude.
[00:32:13] Duuude-Ron :
Of course, I do. Yeah. But I get paid by the hour too. So but Well, you don't. And you know what? Went up to Grand Prairie today, you know, and usually I only go to Grand Prairie once a week. And the schedule changed and we have, you know, drivers going on vacation and, you know, all that kind of stuff. So next week is just gonna be a total fucking shit show. And, so this was the 2nd time that I had to go to Grand Prairie this week. And when I texted Ivan, the guy, my contact that does, you know, the paperwork up in Grand Prairie and all that. He's like, holy shit. I better go buy a lottery ticket. I'm the luckiest man in the world. Ron's coming up to see me twice in 1 week.
[00:33:11] Rich Chelson:
Oh, damn.
[00:33:14] Duuude-Ron :
So, you know, it's just a normal day. But you know what? I I have still yet to understand, and you guys will both know this, why somebody passes you and then gets in your lane and And then slows down. Slows down. I wanted to this. And I'm talking about other trucks too.
[00:33:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. Everybody's included in on that statement, dude. They're dumbasses.
[00:33:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I had one wanted to play the lane tag with me today. I'm like, dude, you passed me. Just go. Don't get in my lane and then slow down. You're in such a hurry to get around me. Go.
[00:34:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but see, his trip like yours is probably reports when he speeds, so he's sped up to pass you. And then he's like, oh, shit. I gotta slow down. I'm I'm a get in trouble. I'm a get in trouble. Dude, you already got in fucking trouble in the left lane. Yeah. It shouldn't have been in the left lane. Yeah. I always hated that. Reason I hated it is because my truck was normally always faster than everybody else's. Oh my god. Sons of bitches get out in front of me and take 10 miles just to pass another truck. I'm like, really, dude? I could have eaten a full fucking meal, taken a nap, and gotten back up, and you still wouldn't have been any further than what you were.
[00:34:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:34:58] Rich Chelson:
You know? I was like, get good god. Just get the fuck out of my way. I don't care what you do after I pass you, but don't get in my way. Oh, yeah. It was an ass.
[00:35:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And our cameras, when we get within a second a a second and a half away from the vehicle in front of us, it records it as an incident.
[00:35:30] Rich Chelson:
See, I'd have been fired. I'd have been fired. I wouldn't have made no money with that company. I mean, shit. JB Hunt fucking yelled at me all the time because I I either took corners too fast or followed too close. So they they had all kinds of ways to fucking even even if I barely touched the brakes or, you know, I mean I mean, for me, I mean, I didn't hardly touch the brakes, but the truck died. Oh my god. I was trying to stop, you know, in 2 feet. What about? He'd throw a code, fucking dispatcher called me. I'm like, leave me the fuck alone. I can't get nowhere. Well, well, your truck said you had a heartbreak event. No. The fuck I did, and the stupid son of a bitch damn near stopped in front of me.
I'm like, what do you want me to do? Hit him? I can do that. They're like, no. No. No. Don't well, then stop fucking calling me. Oh, yeah, man. It was, yeah, it was, yeah, it was horrible. Fucking hated it.
[00:36:39] Duuude-Ron :
And he would call you how how much time had elapsed from the incident until he called you?
[00:36:49] Rich Chelson:
Between 30 seconds and a minute.
[00:36:54] Duuude-Ron :
Wow.
[00:36:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That fucking quick, dude. And and, of course, they didn't want us talking on the phone while driving, which I get. You know, I always wanted a headset, but still, you know, I get that. But, yeah, if I wouldn't answer the phone, they just kept fucking calling and calling and calling and calling and calling. And they, someone called in on me in in Ohio because, I didn't know where I was going. I couldn't tell. I I had traffic all around me. I I couldn't tell by the exits because there was road construction over this bridge area, and they had everything all fucked up. And I was trying
[00:37:35] Duuude-Ron :
yeah.
[00:37:36] Rich Chelson:
I was I was trying to get over to get off, and then I and then, you know, I was trying to read the exits and watch the GPS at the same time, which is not advisable. And then I I moved back over a lane, and this guy called in on me and said that that I was being an ass and tried to speed up past him and then cut him off on purpose and blah blah blah. And my phone started blowing up, like I said, within 30 seconds or a minute. And I couldn't answer the phone because now I've gotten off the road. I'm going down to where I'm supposed to go.
When finally after about the 6th time, I was able to answer the phone. I'm like, what the fuck do you want? Oh, I I was pissed. And he started reaming me and my dispatcher started. I said, woah. Listen here, Hondo. This this dog don't fucking hunt. You know? And he's like, well, this guy called in on you. I said, yeah. I know. I yeah. I remember that son of a bitch. He wouldn't let me fucking over. I said, and I had to get the fuck off off this road. And I was in road construction and everything. I wasn't trying to fuck with him. Oh, yeah. I fucking read him the ride. I called him everything but a white man.
Needless to say, I sat for a couple days. He didn't give me a load because I hurt his feelings.
[00:39:08] Duuude-Ron :
Wow. That's fucked up.
[00:39:10] Rich Chelson:
Oh, well, it's yeah. I didn't care. I mean I mean, it's not like I it's not like I I was I was freaking making any money with JB Hunt, maybe 6, $700 a week. Wow. Yeah. Because JB Hunt wouldn't run you. They'd give you 6 days to go 300 miles. Like, what the fuck? Ain't got no horse and buggy. I told them that too quite a few times.
[00:39:43] Duuude-Ron :
So they're giving you 6 days to go 300 miles. If you get there early, and you couldn't get there early? No. I take it? Could
[00:39:55] Rich Chelson:
not. Mhmm. Because a lot of our freight was j I t, just in time. So, no, you couldn't be early and you couldn't be late. Even though being early would have helped. And then anytime I delivered, my dispatcher would say, oh, freight is soft in the area. Why the fuck you send me over here then? Well, we needed that load to go. Really? You could have given this to a fucking student and and let him learn how to get across. Oh, yeah. No. I, yeah, I didn't I didn't last very long with them. They yeah. They, my dispatcher didn't like me and and, I mean, I didn't care either way, honestly.
I I was just I I mean, I was an ass because this because, you know, I would you know, I was a type, you know, running 25 100 miles a week. You know, 25 100, 3000 miles a week, I'm good. Leave me alone. You know? When I'm doing 1200 a week, you cutting into my money now.
[00:41:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, shit.
[00:41:19] Rich Chelson:
You know, if I'm gonna sit this much on the road, send me the fuck home. So, yeah, I didn't I didn't stick very long with JB Hunt. So
[00:41:40] Duuude-Ron :
I can understand that.
[00:41:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. Because yeah. I mean I mean, shit. You know, I was gone, you know, 2, 3 weeks at a time, every time. Minimum 2, 3 weeks. But, you know, it's like it's like, you know, shit. I sit more than anything. And when I sit, I eat.
[00:42:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:42:03] Rich Chelson:
That's why I I was huge because they have nothing else to do except eat. Yep. And, please.
[00:42:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:42:18] Rich Chelson:
And trust me, buying the Internet at a truck stop, that was fucking expensive. That was really expensive.
[00:42:37] Duuude-Ron :
Be just because they can make money, why they fucking you know, you have to buy inter into the Internet?
[00:42:47] Rich Chelson:
Well, because no phone company had a phone that had a hot spot on it. And, you know, this was when well, this was what? The Internet had been going, what, like, 6 or 7 years at the well, no longer than that. About 10 or 12 years. So it was still, you know, kinda new, but getting widely accepted. A lot more widely accepted. And, oh, yeah, truck drivers wanted you know? Well, they just wanted to watch their porn, you know, stream their porn online. Yeah. You know? Because it was free. Oh my god. You know? Then if they could get porn for free, hell yeah. And so, yeah, that's why that's why the drug shops started getting Internet and everything. But, yeah, I think I think they just want, like,
[00:43:44] Bryan Goodwin:
$30 a month. Yeah. Yeah. They went stupid. Yeah. Yeah. And they they did
[00:43:48] Rich Chelson:
they did have a $5 plan, but, yeah, I think that would last you all of about 30 minutes. Oh, if that. Yeah? Yeah. If that. I mean, long enough to maybe check your email, which which at the time was filled with so much spam, it was unfreaking real. But, you know, we didn't know it was spam at the time. We thought, oh, wow. This is cool, you know. And, yeah, actually, it was a spam or or malware or virus. Oh, yeah. Good times, man.
[00:44:23] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and because I don't have computer access at where I work, but yet I have a an email account with my company. Right. I think it's been, like, a good 2 years since I looked at it last. And the last time I looked at it, I had close to 4,000 emails. I'm like, why why do I need this? It's your code. Well, you might have to you might have to send, you know, company related information, you know, by an email. I'm like, okay. Look at my history. How many have I sent and how many have I received? I got 4,000 in the queue, probably more than that now, and I have never sent one out.
You know? And I you know what? And I will probably never check it again.
[00:45:38] Rich Chelson:
I was gonna say the next time that you have a week off, which I know it's coming up in in, December, you could sit there. I mean, it might take you the full 5 days, but, you know, you can delete all all of those emails and start over.
[00:45:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's called, declaring email bankruptcy.
[00:46:00] Rich Chelson:
I've done that a few times. Yeah? The
[00:46:09] Duuude-Ron :
what? What?
[00:46:10] Bryan Goodwin:
What? Have you ever declared email bankruptcy before?
[00:46:15] Duuude-Ron :
No. I'm I'm
[00:46:18] Bryan Goodwin:
That's where you take everything that's sitting in your inbox and you delete everything. You don't worry about looking at it. You don't triage the shit out of it. You just take it, look at it, go, yep. We're all it's all deleted. Control a. God.
[00:46:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Is that how you can do it?
[00:46:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm. Typically, yeah. Okay. Click on the first email, do a control a, and then it'll probably if yeah. It depends on how it loads. If it loads up, you know, like a 100 at a time, then you may have to sit there and scroll down a little ways till it, till you get to the end. But as soon as you got them all loaded up, then, yeah, just control a. And mo 99% of the time, that will select all of them, and you just hit delete, and they're bye bye.
[00:47:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, clicking on each one, you know, even not opening, just clicking on it. Yeah. To fucking delete them. It's like with my email address, it's like, okay. I probably got 200 right now. You know, a good half of them are, you know, ads for, you know, companies that I have bought stuff from or booking.com, you know, booked a hotel one time through booking.com, and they will not leave me the fuck alone.
[00:47:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you what you do is open You can also, down the bottom, you'll see on unsubscribe.
[00:47:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Go all the way down the bottom in the email. Find unsubscribe. Oh, okay. You can hit unsubscribe, and they won't send you no more emails.
[00:47:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, they're not supposed to, at least.
[00:48:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, booking.com normally follows the rules, and they don't send you no more emails. You know? Most sites actually follow the rules. There's some that don't. And then that's when I just fucking report them as spam. Because it's like Oh, okay. It's like, if if if I have unsubscribed you and you send me over email, you're spam. You're done. And that's why I use Gmail like that because Gmail, you know, when I do that and hit, report spam, and they're like, are you sure you wanna do this? Or or would you like to just unsubscribe? It's like, no. I didn't ask for the fucking email. Report spam. Fuck you. Off. I don't wanna hear from them.
Because most of it's bullshit. Oh, dear. Save $20, but, you know, spend a 150 to save that $20. Kiss my ass. Yeah. No shit. Yeah. I never did that.
[00:49:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know. You know, how about I not spend a 100 a 150 and you not give me 20 back because I don't want your shit anyway. Right. You know, if I want something, I will go find it. I don't need you to remind me that, hey. We're still here. We you know, Black Friday is coming up. It's like, your point is what? Black Friday. Yippee ki yay.
[00:49:37] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's the thing. Most of these businesses started Black Friday 2 fucking weeks ago.
[00:49:43] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, they did.
[00:49:45] Rich Chelson:
So it's like, you know, and I still I still will never get hold of, never wrap my little brain around the fact that, you know, if you spend $50, oh, you'll save 15. I I I I don't I it doesn't compute. Yeah. You know?
[00:50:08] Duuude-Ron :
It it Do I really need this shit in the first place?
[00:50:12] Rich Chelson:
No.
[00:50:13] Duuude-Ron :
You know? I got enough crap, and I mean crap. Why the fuck I still have it is beyond me. I'm just probably too lazy to go out to the garage and just start fucking chucking shit. You know? But I have it's like and then I throw it away, and then I'll fucking need it. You know? For whatever reason, I'll stuff that I haven't, you know, touched in fucking years. As soon as I throw it away, I wanna need it. So that would probably be my luck.
[00:50:49] Rich Chelson:
And see, that's where that's where you'll just have to, be like, no. I don't need it. Just walk away, man. Just walk away. Walk away. Walk away.
[00:51:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I get it, but, you know, I guess I'm too fucking lazy. Just go out to the garage, open it up. Open up the door. It's like, just look at inside, close the garage door. Yep. That's a good project for tomorrow. And when does tomorrow get here?
[00:51:30] Bryan Goodwin:
It ain't Never gets here.
[00:51:32] Duuude-Ron :
Never gets here because it's always today.
[00:51:37] Rich Chelson:
That still fucks my brain up, man. I won't be thinking about that shit on that. I'll be dreaming about that shit tonight. I know I
[00:51:47] Duuude-Ron :
am. The only way that you can get to tomorrow is you take a flight from here to, say, China, and you're in tomorrow.
[00:52:00] Rich Chelson:
Or in South Korea. Yeah.
[00:52:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You're then you're in tomorrow. But then his tomorrow was actually his today.
[00:52:07] Duuude-Ron :
That's true. So you're never you're just screwed all the way around Yep. For tomorrow.
[00:52:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Tomorrow never comes. You so anytime you tell yourself, I'll I'll do that tomorrow, that's a lie. That's You're right. Same as someday. There is no you can look on the calendar and there is no someday of the week. There's a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Sunday is the closest, but it's not someday.
[00:52:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:52:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So some I'll I'll get to it someday means you're never gonna get to it.
[00:52:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right.
[00:52:50] Rich Chelson:
No. I usually get to it if I say I'm a get to it someday. Now it might be 6 months later, but that's someday.
[00:53:00] Bryan Goodwin:
No. That is Today. It just took you 6 months to decide that today was that day.
[00:53:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Isn't it just and you can never get away from today. Nope. You can never get away from today. Tomorrow never comes, and yesterday
[00:53:20] Bryan Goodwin:
is already gone. All you have is today.
[00:53:28] Rich Chelson:
Y'all are really mind fucking me tonight. What's up? Did y'all did y'all work this out beforehand?
[00:53:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. We did. Yeah. Secretly secretly, yes, we did.
[00:53:40] Bryan Goodwin:
You ought to see the you ought to see the, see the the Facebook messages because good grief, boy, they got us confused. It's like, well, no. We can't do it that way. We gotta you know, we it it it it's all it was almost as confusing as who's on first.
[00:53:56] Rich Chelson:
I can Man, I I I can finally figure that one out. That that one just took me about 15 years to figure out. Oh, yeah.
[00:54:07] Duuude-Ron :
And you know what? I have never ever seen anybody play it the way they did. Right. Eventually, Costello.
[00:54:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Us Say it, mate. Yell.
[00:54:25] Duuude-Ron :
And, you know, Costello, every time you see it, even though it's a different, say, not a different skit, but a different location in a different time, you know, he never misses a beat. Right. No. And it's always the same, you know, same tone, same, you know, verbiage. You know, he doesn't, you know, doesn't miss a beat. And every time I hear that is just, like, hilarious. Right. You know, that that that skit never ever will get old for me.
[00:55:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's, I mean, that's a true artist right there. Well, that and,
[00:55:16] Bryan Goodwin:
what is it? The slowly I, the Niagara falls. Niagara falls Slowly, I turn. Y'all remember that one? Nope. No? That one that was the old classic vaudeville act also.
[00:55:31] Rich Chelson:
I think I had heard that, but it's but it's been a long, long time since I See if I can find it. Because that that was Abbott Costello did that too. Oh, there was a deal well, dude, I know I know dude doesn't have one, but Brian Brian, do you have an Alexa at your house or a Google Nest?
[00:55:51] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No? No. Never really bothered with them. I figured, yeah, well, I can I can always ask Google on on my on my phone? So
[00:56:00] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Well, no. The reason I was saying is, this was, shit, about 3, 4 weeks ago. I I just remembered it, because we were talking about, Abbott and Costello. There's this, radio station that I saw on Facebook. It popped up on my Facebook feed, and it says that they have an Alexa skill. And I'm like, what the hell? It's called GI Jive Radio. Okay. And it's cool as shit because what they do is is they play music from the thirties and the forties during world war 2. And also, they have, in between songs, not many, but they have old newscast from from, you know, during World War 2, you know. Right. Just and and and they have, like, the old Brylcreem ad radio ads. That would do you.
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Different ads and stuff like that. And it's actually pretty freaking cool. And a lot of times, I'll just tell Alexa to play that. And I'll just sit there. Just freaking go off, do whatever, and just listen to the, well, basically, it's the big band music. But Right. And it's and it's not all fast songs. Some of it's slow, you know, and, and everything. And I just sit and listen to it, and I learned I learned one thing. Did you know, say a Glenn Miller is a veteran? Yeah. World War 2? I did not know that. I did not know that.
[00:57:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. There's quite a few celebrities that were that were, were veterans.
[00:57:52] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. I knew I knew there was a few, but, you know, you know, Glenn Miller, I'd you know, I I mean, he was known for for the big band era. Right. He was he was he was a big name, but, yeah, he he served in in, armed forces. I forget which one. I don't know if it was the army or the air force or what.
[00:58:15] Duuude-Ron :
In world war 2? Yeah. He's already a big band before World War 2.
[00:58:22] Rich Chelson:
No. He was in World War 2, man.
[00:58:25] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[00:58:26] Rich Chelson:
Hang on. Let me double check. War 1,
[00:58:30] Duuude-Ron :
or was he in World War 1?
[00:58:34] Rich Chelson:
They they said there was, let's see. Well, he was born in 04. Well, he died in 44, so, yeah, it had to be World War 1.
[00:58:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yeah. Well, who was the, had the most or the highest kills in Vietnam as a sniper.
[00:59:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. Wait. No. Glenn Miller was actually too old to be drafted in, they so the 38 year old, Glenn Miller volunteered for the navy, only to be told that the navy could not use the band leader's services. Undaunted, Miller persuaded the army to accept him so that he could put a little more spring in the speed of our marching men and a little more joy in their hearts.
[00:59:32] Duuude-Ron :
Well, alright. And I've never looked this up. I've just heard this. But who had the highest kill, number as being a sniper in Vietnam?
[00:59:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, that I don't know. I was gonna say highest kill rate. I was gonna say the Red Baron.
[00:59:53] Rich Chelson:
No. I've I've heard that. I've heard this, and I can't remember.
[01:00:00] Duuude-Ron :
John Denver?
[01:00:02] Rich Chelson:
That's right. That's right. Yeah. John, yeah, John Denver. Little old John Denver. Little wired rim John Denver, yeah, was a sniper. A lot of people don't know that.
[01:00:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. With the mo with the most with the most kills.
[01:00:19] Rich Chelson:
Actually, Glenn Miller was a major in World War 2 in the European theater. He, went missing on December 15, 1944 over the English Channel. So and he was never found.
[01:00:42] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Yes.
[01:00:45] Rich Chelson:
Yes. And he was awarded the bronze star, after he had passed in, 45 Possibly. Okay. Yeah. Possibly. So yeah. Yeah. He was in World War 2. But yeah. They oh, oh, god. That dude that dude that plays on, it's a wonderful
[01:01:09] Duuude-Ron :
life. Oh, yeah. You would have this.
[01:01:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Right. Right.
[01:01:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Love that. About, the Jim Jim. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stewart. You're walking for you're walking for mister Platts now?
[01:01:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stewart. Jimmy Stewart. Yeah. Jimmy Stewart. Yeah. Good lord. That was that was kinda hard. Yeah. I think, if I remember right, he was world war 2 as well. Yeah. So but, no, it's you know, I yeah. A lot of times, I'll I'll tell freaking Alexa to, play this. And, you know, I'll just I'll just sit and listen to it all day just because it's it's just it's different. You know?
[01:02:04] Duuude-Ron :
So? You know, and I was never really a big big band music type individual.
[01:02:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[01:02:15] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I just yeah. Can't get into it.
[01:02:23] Rich Chelson:
I just like it because, I mean, honestly, if you ask me, that was, that was the, I don't know the best time, I guess.
[01:02:32] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I can definitely get into some early fifties rock and roll. That's for damn sure.
[01:02:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But you see the the, the early fifties rock and roll, all that music, you know, that music since all came from the big band era, dude.
[01:02:54] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. Everything, you know, there's some aspect of what from each generation. Yeah. You know, the music is taken from. But, you know, I just think that I could sit and listen to fifties music, the Big Bopper, Elvis, for all that kind of music for hours. But, of course, it now I have the eighties music, which, well, that's my primary. You guys know that. That you know, there's nothing better than or nothing better than eighties.
[01:03:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, god. You kill me, dude.
[01:03:46] Duuude-Ron :
Especially with the, big hair bands. Yeah. Metallic or not Metallica, but, Motley Crue.
[01:03:53] Rich Chelson:
Twisted, Sester, Def Leppard. Twisted.
[01:03:56] Duuude-Ron :
There you go. Aldo Nova.
[01:04:00] Rich Chelson:
Oh, god. That's the name I haven't heard in a in a day or 2.
[01:04:04] Duuude-Ron :
And their biggest one was, Fantasy. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:04:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I just looked at Stewart and, check this out. He was a 2 time vet, 1941 to 1947, he was smart and went in the army. And in 1947 to 1968, he went in the air force. And his final rank was, brigadier general.
[01:04:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Really? Yeah. And I just looked and, also kinda check on, check on that that, John Denver thing. Uh-huh. He never did serve in the military.
[01:04:50] Duuude-Ron :
What? Oh, so that was a big lie then. Okay. Yep.
[01:04:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Mil his father was, had military service, and his brother was in Vietnam. But, his views on on the military, Denver disliked the rigidness and transient lifestyle of the military life. He left home, after his 3rd year of high school to pursue music career.
[01:05:15] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:05:16] Rich Chelson:
I could've swore I had heard that before. Oh, yeah. No. It's, it's,
[01:05:21] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, Snopes even has did John Denver serve as a US military sniper in Vietnam? And, nope.
[01:05:29] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Well, I learned something new. Yep.
[01:05:33] Bryan Goodwin:
From here. Oh, I didn't even know that. I I didn't think he served in I'd never heard anything about his military career. And then I went and was looking at, seeing what it said over on Wikipedia, and I was on one finding a, and I was like, what the hell? You know, you figured they would be they would have that little segment in there, you know, military life or, portion and nothing there. So I was like, let's let's see. Is that, military real or nope. Certainly not.
[01:06:01] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, James Stewart was in World War 2 and Vietnam.
[01:06:06] Bryan Goodwin:
I didn't know he's in Vietnam.
[01:06:08] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. That's what it says. He was in the European 3rd theater of operations, and then he was in Vietnam. How did he miss Korea? I don't know. Because he was in from 47 to 68 in the air force. How did he miss Korea? I'm not sure.
[01:06:27] Duuude-Ron :
Who knows? But to retire as a brigadier general in the air force?
[01:06:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[01:06:34] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Yep.
[01:06:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Brigadier general. He wasn't working for Potter. That's for sure.
[01:06:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, yeah, it's Yeah. But
[01:06:46] Duuude-Ron :
but you don't you don't very you don't hear anything about it.
[01:06:52] Rich Chelson:
No. No. In fact in fact, when he was, you know, an actor, you didn't hear anything about about Jimmy Stewart being a a veteran.
[01:07:03] Duuude-Ron :
No.
[01:07:03] Rich Chelson:
He was just I don't know. It's just weird.
[01:07:11] Duuude-Ron :
You know, unless I wear something military apparel or what have you, you know, I don't advertise my military service.
[01:07:24] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:07:26] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I know what because real and, you know, yes, people thank me once they find out, you know, which is appreciated. Right. You know, like I said, one of my friends who never served in the military just because that was not his course of life, every year for the last 4 years, on Veterans Day, this individual has called me that evening to thank me for my service. And he's done it for the last 4 years in a row without missing a beat.
[01:08:04] Rich Chelson:
That's cool.
[01:08:05] Duuude-Ron :
That's another Jeeper that, you know, that I know, Dave. David. Yeah. And he doesn't call anybody else whatsoever. He he only calls me. I'm like, wow. That's you know, I appreciate that. And, you know, definitely told him that that, you know, it's appreciated that he will stop his, you know, what he's doing on Veterans Day to call me and thank me. And then we, we usually have a good hour conversation usually.
[01:08:48] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:08:49] Duuude-Ron :
And so it's like, you know, that's just but it it kinda shocks me, you know, that he that he does that because I, you know, I really don't advertise any of my military service. You know, the only thing I talk about is, you know, jumping out of planes. That's about the only thing I will say about my military service. Right. And those were some fun times, even though I'm definitely afraid of heights. You know, I can't I can't look off the edge of my roof at my house where I could jump out of a plane.
[01:09:29] Rich Chelson:
That is kinda funny.
[01:09:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And never even even if it was noon or 2 o'clock in the afternoon, every exit was a night jump. Every single one of them.
[01:09:46] Bryan Goodwin:
My eyes Okay. Add your eyes closed,
[01:09:48] Duuude-Ron :
My eyes would lock shut until I felt the opening shock of the parachute opening. And then I could open up my eyes. And you know what? I was I could look around, not a problem one, whatsoever. You know? But I look off a fucking tall building. Yeah. Well, I got a problem. And I and I and I don't know why. That's why I couldn't go, or go to jump master school because I cannot look out that door. And you have to look out to find your one minute marking, your 32nd marking before the green light comes on for the drop zone. You know? Nope. Can't look out that door.
[01:10:45] Rich Chelson:
How the hell am I supposed to see it that high up?
[01:10:52] Duuude-Ron :
Well, we're only going out at, 800 feet.
[01:10:57] Rich Chelson:
Still. I mean, you're flying in a plane. You're doing, what, 2, 300 miles an hour. By the time you look at your 1 minute mark, it's done gone it's done back 10 miles.
[01:11:12] Duuude-Ron :
I like No. You're no. You're looking yeah. You're looking, you know, 10 miles up. Yeah. Easily. You know? I don't know what a C 17 slows down to. But under I don't remember. No. Not a c yeah. C 17. Well, that's That's the biggest plane that we can that's the biggest plane that they can, slow down enough to, allow jumpers to exit out of the aircraft. They couldn't do that with the C5 because the C5 would, fall out of the sky. But, yeah, the C 17, C 141, C 130, Those are the aircrafts. Oh, c 47. I think I told you guys that story about my jump with the c out of the c 47.
[01:12:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. You did. Yep.
[01:12:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That was that was Yeah. That was a great jump. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:12:22] Rich Chelson:
They, they're not saying, the speed because they say the exact jump window speed may vary depending on factors, like the number of jumpers, their equipment weight, atmospheric conditions. Blase blase. So Yeah. It doesn't say, it says usually around a 120 knots.
[01:12:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That yeah. Yep.
[01:12:51] Rich Chelson:
So for for us non nautical people.
[01:13:00] Duuude-Ron :
Now what is that? Miles per hour? Don't have a clue.
[01:13:03] Rich Chelson:
Well, I'm fixed to tell you.
[01:13:05] Duuude-Ron :
100 and
[01:13:06] Rich Chelson:
0.094 miles per hour.
[01:13:10] Duuude-Ron :
Is a 120 knots?
[01:13:12] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:13:14] Duuude-Ron :
Is what was it? A 130 a 138?
[01:13:17] Rich Chelson:
138. Yeah. Okay. 130 kilometer.
[01:13:24] Duuude-Ron :
Something that I'd never do.
[01:13:26] Rich Chelson:
That'd be fast in a helicopter.
[01:13:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, again, I've never researched it because when you jump out of the plane yeah. It's a it's it's a freaking, it's is a
[01:13:43] Rich Chelson:
You're not worried about speed.
[01:13:45] Duuude-Ron :
No. You're just all worried about that fucking parachute opening. That's the only thing you worry about. And then, you know, when it gets there, you've gone from a 138 miles an hour to 0 in 4 seconds. That's great. Except for your except for your descent rate.
[01:14:09] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. And we've done gone down that rabbit hole.
[01:14:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Because we were comparing it to the aerodynamics of A cow. Several of a cow, and then it turned into several barn animals and rodents and yeah. No. We ain't gonna go down that fucking rabbit hole again. That that was
[01:14:32] Rich Chelson:
Dude, that was fun, man. That was just Oh, I That was very educational. I mean, we provided a lot of valuable information.
[01:14:44] Duuude-Ron :
And you know that a cow is also more aerodynamic than a Jeep is?
[01:14:49] Rich Chelson:
I know. Right? You know, when you felt that, I didn't. Oh, hell no. Yeah. I would I would never have thought that. But yeah. No. I, yeah, I remember I remember that freaking episode. That was a lot of fun. I Yeah. I really enjoyed that.
[01:15:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That was kind of fun. You're right. So I don't know.
[01:15:29] Rich Chelson:
What y'all gonna do for Thanksgiving?
[01:15:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, head in the.
[01:15:35] Duuude-Ron :
Sleep until about fucking noon.
[01:15:40] Rich Chelson:
And then and then go down to Golden Corral and get get, turkey?
[01:15:46] Duuude-Ron :
No. Probably a Cracker Barrel and bring it back to the house.
[01:15:51] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. Okay.
[01:15:53] Duuude-Ron :
Of course, that's after I, of course, that's after I get up from my nap.
[01:16:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I have not fully made up my mind because, yeah, it's my niece wants me to go to Indiana
[01:16:12] Bryan Goodwin:
for Thanksgiving. Gary, Indiana. Gary, Indiana.
[01:16:15] Rich Chelson:
They're getting snowed right now or were.
[01:16:21] Bryan Goodwin:
I see Rich. He's gonna drive along. Sees our first flight come down, whips the Huey and says, nope.
[01:16:28] Rich Chelson:
What? Yeah. Alright. And I and I would. I did.
[01:16:32] Duuude-Ron :
And see, it's not so much about the snow or the accumulation of snow. It is what temperature has it gotten to to get it that way? Fuck that. It's below 32 degrees. I'm out.
[01:16:50] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, that's the thing because I checked the weather today and I looked at it for the future. And they're saying it's supposed to snow on Thanksgiving day, and the high is supposed to be, like, 30 degrees. And, yeah, I'm like, I'm sitting here and I you know, I've been I've been known on this for the past couple 2, 3 weeks because I've driven 10,000 fucking miles this year, and I'm fucking tired. I am tired of driving, but I I know that's a shock because y'all know I drive fucking everywhere. But I am literally tired of driving this year.
And as much as I'd love to see the kids, the chance of even a flurry with 30 degree weather, Oh, no. I just haven't I just haven't told Brit yet. So but, yeah, I don't, I'm probably not gonna go to Indiana.
[01:17:52] Duuude-Ron :
And you have to go through some type of a mountain range to get there. Right?
[01:17:58] Rich Chelson:
A small one. I mean, nothing nothing major just because there's there's no real big mountain ranges between here and there. Okay. But, I mean, I mean, small hills, but yeah. No. It's just yeah. There's just too much chance for winter weather. And it's like, no. I came down here for a reason. Yeah. It doesn't mean I wanna go back up and and visit the winter weather. Like, no. I'm sorry, but no. Yeah. No. Thank you. So, yeah, I'll probably text her tomorrow and let her know I'm not coming this year because it it's just I'm well, y'all know why I came down here. I'm tired of being fucking cold and I'm Okay. Exactly.
And that's, I mean, and that's the thing. When I go back up or, you know, if I was to go back up, now it's cold. Because Yeah. My nephew, Dusty, he still lives up in Des Moines in Iowa. He freaking calls me calls me the other day. I says, guess what? I said what? He said, it's 39 degrees. It's snowing and and the wind blowing like hell. He says, when you coming up? I said, kiss my ass, motherfucker. There ain't no way in hell I'm coming up. He just Nope. And I'm like, dude, no. Not nobody. Hell, no. And this was, when it was, like, you know, 62 degrees outside and the wind was blowing over here. And I'm just like, oh, hell no. I'm freaking wearing a jacket already.
[01:19:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep. I'm in a jacket in the mornings right now.
[01:19:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I see. Oh, yeah. No. I've got my heat on in the house.
[01:19:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. So do I. Yeah. It's getting it's getting down to forties,
[01:19:58] Rich Chelson:
high forties at night here. Yeah. Same here, dude. Mid forties. I'm like, I'm like, no. No. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to think about, you know, proceeding on down to, like, South America, Honduras, Barbados, somewhere further south because I I just I don't like cold.
[01:20:21] Duuude-Ron :
No. I I get you. You know? But the only good thing about having a Jeep in snow and when the the interstate is backed up, is getting in that, you know, grassy area between the interstate and the frontage road and just doing donuts and entertaining people.
[01:20:45] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, see, I'd I would be afraid that someone would get stuck or someone would try and do it because they see me do it. And they would want me to get out my jeep and and get them out of the ditch, and I'm sorry, but that's not gonna happen.
[01:21:05] Duuude-Ron :
Who?
[01:21:07] Rich Chelson:
Young Young, how's it called a tow truck? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a winch. Yes. It worked. But now Sure. I'm I'm not getting out this week. It ain't happening. So yeah. No. It's just yeah. I've been I've been freaking on on it, and it's it's I I've been I've been struggling with it, you know, because I mean, yes, I would love to go see the kids again, but, it's just too fucking cold.
[01:21:35] Duuude-Ron :
I Yeah. And like you said, you put a lot of miles on the Jeep this year.
[01:21:40] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I have. Yes. I have. And and this here round trip would be another 1600, so I'd be I'd I'd be damn close to 12,000 just this year, and this year's not over. So yeah. Wow. Yeah. You know? So yeah. It's I mean I mean, like I said, I don't mind driving. You know? I've never minded driving. It's just anymore?
[01:22:07] Duuude-Ron :
Not in the white shits.
[01:22:10] Rich Chelson:
Well, just, you know, anymore. Y'all come fucking visit me. Why in the hell why in the hell do I have to go visit everybody? Y'all fucking come down here.
[01:22:22] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and I've been told, hey. The phone works both ways. Right. Yeah. You're right. Use it. You know? You don't wanna call me? Why do I need to call you?
[01:22:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah, I get that argument too. You know? But you see, that's the thing. My family knows I've always been bad at calling. I've always been bad. I mean, ever since, shit, ever since I was in my twenties. If you heard from me, normally, something was fucking wrong.
[01:23:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:23:03] Rich Chelson:
You know, very rarely do I ever call and say, hey. How are you doing? How's your mom and them? Very rarely. And if I do, they're like, okay. What's wrong? That's the first question. What's wrong? But but yeah. It's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It snowed up there today, and it's supposed to snow on Thanksgiving Day. And I'm like, yeah. No. Can't do it.
[01:23:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Not gonna do it. Well, they've heard me at this juncture.
[01:23:38] Rich Chelson:
Well, we'll see. The thing is, I got rid of my insulated babies. I don't have insulated babies no more. All I have is one jacket, and that's a heavy enough jacket for down here if it gets too cold. But other than that, I don't I don't have any cold weather gear anymore. I gave it all up. It was the reason why I moved so close to the Gulf of Mexico.
[01:24:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:24:08] Rich Chelson:
So, yeah, that's that's I don't, honestly, I don't think I could handle even 5 Below anymore. Oh, I don't know. That would hurt. That would just hurt. That's like that's like my nephew wants me to come up and watch him raise battle of the barn again this year up in Des Moines. It's in January. Yeah. I told him to get screwed.
[01:24:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Love you, dude, but screw screw you. Piss up. Uh-uh.
[01:24:44] Rich Chelson:
That's about that's about what I said, and he just laughs because he knows I'm not coming. Right. He's like, I know, man. He said, but I'm still gonna give you shit. Yeah. No. It's just yeah. And see, that's the thing. You know, like, well, dude's known because dude lives in Texas. You know? Right. Brian, you you're still somewhat, like, I don't know, a little kid in in in cooler weather or cold weather.
[01:25:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Doesn't bother me. It's just how you take it's just what your what your mind is about about the cold.
[01:25:28] Duuude-Ron :
So Bullshit. It's all about the joints and the bones. Are you fucking kidding? My fucking bones hurt. My joints hurt in the fucking cold. Yeah. But it did. That and only because and it's not because I exited an aircraft a 116 times. I don't think any of that would have anything to do with, you know, that and Oh, no. Not nothing at all about the about the, the sudden stop after after gently
[01:25:58] Bryan Goodwin:
bloating to the ground.
[01:26:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. That's it that was always not an enjoyable moment for the most part. Yeah. It was the you know, you're supposed to have 5 points of contact, but mine usually was 3 points of contact. It was either heels, ass, head, or feet, knees, knees, face. It was never a fucking proper parachute landing fall, PLF, ever. It was a PFL. Perfectly fucked up landing. Yeah. A 116 times I did this shit.
[01:26:47] Rich Chelson:
So your favorite so your favorite position was a face plant then. Right?
[01:26:55] Bryan Goodwin:
I bet you got where all his jumps are. I bet you they still got little plaques out there going, Ron's face. Ron's face.
[01:27:03] Duuude-Ron :
Or, no, Ron's ass.
[01:27:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Ron's ass.
[01:27:08] Duuude-Ron :
It was usually it was usually Hill's ass head, his staff landed. That would hurt. Yeah. Quite a few of them hurt. I'll give you that. Thank God that never had a broken bone from jumping, and I never had a tree landing.
[01:27:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's good. But, okay, let me ask you this. Have you ever had your tailbone x rayed?
[01:27:39] Duuude-Ron :
No. Okay. No. I haven't.
[01:27:42] Rich Chelson:
Because after a 116 jumps, I bet your tailbone is in pieces.
[01:27:49] Duuude-Ron :
Probably.
[01:27:51] Rich Chelson:
I mean Yeah. I never jumped out of a perfectly good airplane. Although if if if I had been given the opportunity, I would have taken it at the time. Now I would not. But
[01:28:04] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. Of course.
[01:28:07] Rich Chelson:
But but the thing is, even though I never jumped out of a perfectly good airplane, my tailbone is just yeah. It it just hovers right there altogether. It it nothing's attached anymore. It's just it's been shattered so many times. It's and that's just from normal falls, like off a deuce and a half, a 5 ton, a tank. Oh,
[01:28:31] Duuude-Ron :
wow. Yeah. It don't take, yeah, it don't take much. However, I'm glad I was not the dude that on our 3rd jump in jump school, because you have to have 5 jumps to get your parachute wings. So on the 3rd jump, you don't ever land with your your knees locked. You you're you're you have your knees bent and to a certain degree to where it kinda is supposed to act like a shock absorber. Yeah. It doesn't. He landed with his knees locked and his feet about shoulder width apart and broke both femurs and both hip sockets
[01:29:24] Bryan Goodwin:
on his 3rd jump. The heck. Forgot to forgot to buckle, didn't he?
[01:29:29] Rich Chelson:
Tuck and roll, baby. That's right. That would be it. Just
[01:29:33] Bryan Goodwin:
stiff legged.
[01:29:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You don't you don't land with your knees locked. No. And, yeah, you both femurs and both hip sockets. You could hear him screaming all the way across the Well, all the way across the drop zone.
[01:29:52] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't doubt that, man. Yeah. I mean, fuck. Yeah. It it's like, uh-uh. That's that's where the whole tuck and roll comes from, man. Yeah. You know? Pretty much. Yeah. I mean
[01:30:07] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. I Yeah. He forgot all about the parachute landing fall. That was a PFL, perfectly fucked up landing. Yes, sir.
[01:30:16] Rich Chelson:
Needless to say Yeah. Yeah. It took him a while to get his jump wings.
[01:30:23] Duuude-Ron :
No. Well, I don't know, but I'm sure they med boarded him after that.
[01:30:31] Rich Chelson:
Oh, really? Well, yeah. Well, yeah. Probably. Yeah. I mean, probably so, but yeah.
[01:30:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when you fucking break both hip sockets, yeah, you're pretty well fucked as far as the military is concerned. Yeah. Well,
[01:30:48] Rich Chelson:
so, yeah, this was back in the day, and they didn't have that technological advances they have now. Hell, they can they can make an inch and a half to incision and exchange your hip. I never understood that, but they can. It's Yeah. Say.
[01:31:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Yeah.
[01:31:13] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, with all, yeah, with all the yeah. With all the tools and everything they have now? Oh, yeah. Yep.
[01:31:20] Rich Chelson:
But that's the thing. How do they get get the old hip out? They don't leave it in there. I mean, it's fucking extra parts they don't need because it's crushed.
[01:31:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. Uh-uh. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Cut it up? I've never seen one. I've never yeah. Possibly.
[01:31:41] Rich Chelson:
Make it out as good meat. You know, mix it in a little soup base.
[01:31:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I'm sure that they have something that breaks the bone. And Right. You know, puts it into little pieces and pull those out because, yeah, you ain't it's no.
[01:32:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because you see the, a new hip needs to have room to, you know, be able to move and, you know, let the body, you know, reform around the new hip, you know Yeah. Or whatnot. I would think. I mean, I've never looked it up, but that's just, you know, you know, my brain, the way it thinks. And that's I'm not saying that it's it's it's always a good way of thinking.
[01:32:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But Yeah. Well, after usually, after about 4 o'clock, mine just shuts down. I'm done.
[01:32:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Normally, mine's about 2 or 3 depending. Some days, I can get till 5. But, yeah, after 5, no. I'm I'm out. I'm serious. I'm out.
[01:32:51] Duuude-Ron :
And then and then, of course, our podcast doesn't start until 7, and we're already brains have shut off. So it's amazing that we can even carry on a conversation halfway. Well, not a decent conversation because we're just all over the damn place. Right. You're right. You know, just a having a thought. Yeah.
[01:33:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, we've been downloaded 1450 times, so someone must either be laughing at us, hating on us, or what. But
[01:33:32] Duuude-Ron :
so it's it's every bit of I can guarantee you it's every bit of we're being laughed at.
[01:33:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it. Well,
[01:33:41] Duuude-Ron :
you know, if they're what's the old saying? If you can't laugh with them, laugh at them.
[01:33:47] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:33:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Something to that effect, at least.
[01:33:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, hang on. There was there was something I read of and and I I actually been saving it. Oh, no. Don't tell me I lost it. Oh, no. I lost it. Damn it. It was an article I found. The freaking air force is fiction to fucking be stupid. They are taking the a tens out of South Korea and replacing them with the f 15 a's and the f 30 fives because the f 30 fives are the new version of the a tens. They've been, upgraded, they say, as and classified as close quarters combat.
[01:34:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, shoot.
[01:34:44] Rich Chelson:
That's right, dude. That's exactly what I bullshit. Yeah. But no. No. I freaking read that, and I it's like it's like fucking air force has been after, you know, getting rid of the a tens for years. You know? And it's like, no. Why? There's no reason to.
[01:35:07] Duuude-Ron :
Well and, yeah, it it's an aging aircraft, the airframe, and they're not making any new ones. But, you know, the whole purpose of that aircraft was close air support, and its maneuvering factor because it was flow like a helicopter. Right. Yeah. And you could freaking damn near turn that thing on a quarter and come back around to fucking rehit them.
[01:35:47] Rich Chelson:
Right. But but, see, that's the thing, though. Okay. Yes. It's an aging aircraft. I get it. It's 60 fucking years old. Alright. Fine. The thing is, all this money that they've wasted on the f 15, the f 16, the f 18, and now they're up to the f 35, they could have built a new a 10. A couple of them. Yeah. Quite a few of them and replace the original a tens. You see you see, this is what irks me about the fucking military overall, and and has been for years. Okay. The you see, normally, we say if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Military says, if it ain't broke, we'll fucking break it and then give you something new. That's worse than what you had. Yeah. Yeah. Replace it. Yeah. It's like, no. Don't If it ain't broke if it ain't broke,
[01:36:37] Duuude-Ron :
don't fix it. Well, yeah, we'll break it so we can replace it.
[01:36:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[01:36:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But you're not yeah. No. I read that. They're they're taking the e tens out of South Korea, and I'm thinking, okay. What's next?
[01:36:52] Duuude-Ron :
Stupid decision because of that because of that mountainous terrain.
[01:36:59] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm.
[01:37:01] Duuude-Ron :
In Ron's opinion, that's the best fucking aircraft with that train far far than anything else because all the rest of them are moving entirely too fast.
[01:37:18] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. They say they say they have freaking upgraded the, f f fifteen a, the f thirty five, and I think one more. And they're saying the f 35 is the new close quarters, plane.
[01:37:34] Duuude-Ron :
That Yeah. You're gonna okay. They're gonna put a fucking 30 millimeter Gatling gun on the front of that plane? Yeah. You know?
[01:37:44] Rich Chelson:
And and see the thing is, something else this, this article said. I mean, I didn't read all of it. I just I just read, you know, just just a small bit. But in that small bit, I read, oh my god. It had so much information. Basically, what they're doing is, setting their sights on Taiwan, Hong Kong, and all like that because, basically, they're saying the Middle East is is, you know, in their rear view now, which I think is,
[01:38:19] Duuude-Ron :
They better not put anything in the fucking rearview mirror when it comes to the fucking, Middle East.
[01:38:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. Or Yeah. Well, Russia just fired a ICBM at, Ukraine. I I think it was today or yesterday.
[01:38:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. She is. Yep.
[01:38:40] Rich Chelson:
And, and, Putin is, threatening more. So, yeah, we'll see. We're gonna see what's happening. You know?
[01:38:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And if they, and if they start shooting shit this way, shit. I'm getting in the fucking Jeep and going to freaking goddamn point of impact.
[01:39:06] Rich Chelson:
You'd be safer, probably.
[01:39:10] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, I'd be dead. When when they're talking about well, what I'm talking about is, like, a nuclear weapon being fired.
[01:39:22] Rich Chelson:
Well, man.
[01:39:25] Duuude-Ron :
I'll go in the direction of point impact because I ain't living through the fallout shit. Right. That. But yeah. I don't think so.
[01:39:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. There's there's, yeah, there's, yeah, there's just a few things I read that it's just like I don't know if you ask me. Putin is just he's just standing on you know, just trying to flex his muscles before, Trump gets in the office. But I could be wrong about that too because because Putin is a sneaky motherfucker. Always has been.
[01:40:05] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. Oh, yeah. You know, when Trump was shaking his hand? He was, Putin was shaking his hand, and the other hand, he had a knife and stabbing him in the back all at the same time with a smile on his face. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:40:23] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens, and we'll see as as things go on. But, yeah, that was just a few things that I noticed that kinda got my, dander up just a hair. I was I was actually more mad about the a ten leaving South Korea than anything.
[01:40:51] Duuude-Ron :
Seriously? They're trying to. Yeah. I know. They're trying to get all the a tens out of the and retire all of them and put them out of the inventory. I know. And retire all those aircraft. I know. That's And they've been trying to do that for hell, Obama was trying to do that. Yeah.
[01:41:11] Rich Chelson:
But, honestly, that's the worst thing we could do because that that aircraft just oh, god. It's just it's just too versatile.
[01:41:22] Duuude-Ron :
It's too versatile Yeah. That everything. Especially as a close air support with danger close, with troops danger close. And we're talking when we're talking danger close, is within, 200, 300 meters.
[01:41:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:41:44] Duuude-Ron :
And and the accuracy that they have with, you know, no, what the hell is that when you count families?
[01:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:
From the car?
[01:42:02] Duuude-Ron :
No. Yeah. There was a phrase specifically for it, but, yeah, friendly fire. You didn't hear very many, friendly fire incidences with an a ten ever.
[01:42:14] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. No. Because the pilots I mean I mean, the freaking pilots. I mean, no one ever talked about the a ten or the pilots, but, you know, and and, you know, I'm not knocking aviators by no means because those guys are are, you know, some awesome motherfuckers. But the a tens? Shit.
[01:42:33] Duuude-Ron :
Those Freedom Bureau.
[01:42:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. And and and they've got women a 10 flyer pilots. In there. Yes. Yes. I I saw oh god. Was this last year or something? I saw a a small interview when, our maybe it's on YouTube. I can't remember. They was, talking about the a 10. This was the first time I had heard they was talking about the a 10, getting rid of it. And there was a female, pilot that, you know, she flat told him, she's like, I'm not turning my ATN in. She's like, no. Uh-huh. That's the Yeah. The plane's 60 years old, she said, but no. You know?
I mean, she was, you know, she's like, uh-uh. I love this plane.
[01:43:22] Duuude-Ron :
And and And all the pilots do that Yeah. You know? The ones that want to be air. That pilot the ones that wanna be a 10 pilots are just fascinated by that aircraft just like the the rest of us. Right. But, you know, to have that unique skill set of an a 10 pilot because they're just as vulnerable as the guys on the ground because they're so close to the enemy and RPGs and what have you. You know? Yeah.
[01:44:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But then gatling guns, tiresome. Get up before they get there.
[01:44:05] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. That is you know how fulfilling that is to watch and call in an a 10 Thunderbolt and watch it just blow up some shit? Now I never did it in a war zone, but I've done it in a training scenario. And, you know, there was a couple of us that got to call in a 10 fire. And I tell you what, that shit is just, phenomenal to watch.
[01:44:39] Rich Chelson:
That that would make that would make my little pecker hard.
[01:44:44] Duuude-Ron :
You did. Yeah. I left the would. I left there with a heart on every time. Yeah, buddy. That was man, it was just things that that that I've been able to couple things I've been able to do, so many people would love to do it. Right. But we'll but we'll never get a chance. That's like when, I was in the 82nd and we were doing, we had a AC 130 gunship that we were the our platoon, the our fist platoon was going out to observe. And, yeah, it's the only time that I've ever seen it done, in my military career. But I was one of 3 that actually got to ride and fly in that a 1 AC 130 gunship during a live fire.
[01:45:47] Rich Chelson:
Oh,
[01:45:48] Duuude-Ron :
did you? Was fucking cool. Uh-huh. You talk about when when that, 20 millimeter because they the one that I flew on had a 20 millimeter cannon. It had 2 of those, and then it had 2 40 millimeter cannons that actually came off of battleships from World War 2, and the ammo that they were using when I rode in that airplane still had a naval stamp as surplus from World War 2, the rounds that they were using for the 40 millimeter cannons. But when that 20 millimeter Gatling gun went off, oh my god. Just sitting right next to that, that was fucking cool.
[01:46:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, dude. I'd have been walking around with a heart on for a week.
[01:46:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That that was that, riding that, calling in an a 10 Thunderbolt, doing a, artillery mission, flying in a, what the hell was it? The Kiowa Warrior. I don't remember the acronym for the, what that aircraft was, but it was a Kiowa. And doing a live fire while I'm flying in that just to you know, as we're flying, it gives you the, you have to be know where you're at for the adjustments from how you're seeing it from the last time the adjustment needed to be in when you're 400 meters away because the helicopter moved over. And then jumping out jumping out of that c 47 of the plane that actually dropped soldiers into Sicily for one of the 5 combat jumps that the that the 82nd did in World War 2.
[01:47:54] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:47:56] Duuude-Ron :
Those are my 4 or 5 most exciting events while I was in the military.
[01:48:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. The, the, Kiowa is the, o eight Oscar hotel dash 58.
[01:48:15] Duuude-Ron :
It's a bell Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, 58. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Oh, it's 58. That's right. It was really good. What does the o h stand for?
[01:48:27] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't know.
[01:48:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, hell.
[01:48:32] Rich Chelson:
I like that. Oh, hell.
[01:48:36] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So what is a, like, a c c h or a c c h 47? What does the c h stand for?
[01:48:46] Rich Chelson:
I don't know.
[01:48:48] Duuude-Ron :
Cargo helicopter. Okay. Oh is observation helicopter because that's all the Kiowa does is observe for, you know, artillery or Apaches.
[01:49:04] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:49:05] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So that's that designation. And then you have the Ah, which is a TAC helicopter.
[01:49:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:49:14] Duuude-Ron :
And Those are
[01:49:18] Rich Chelson:
That a o h Go ahead. Yep. That a o h 58 was retired in 2020.
[01:49:26] Duuude-Ron :
Wow.
[01:49:27] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh.
[01:49:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Well and I can understand that for the most part because the o h 58 delta, that's the first one that had the ET head above the rotors. Right. You remember seeing that? Yep. Yeah. They called that a ET, but that was that had the laser designator in it for the attack helicopters for the, Hellfire missiles.
[01:50:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I, when I was in Fort Riley, we had a few of those, plus we had some of the Apaches. I think we had a couple Hueys as well.
[01:50:21] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. So But now that the Apaches can designate for themselves, that's what retired the 0H 58. Well, then it says So they could do all that for themselves now.
[01:50:36] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, it says also this, the army wanted to reduce its overall number of airframes in the inventory.
[01:50:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:50:49] Rich Chelson:
They say it was a mathematical decision, which, honestly, I don't
[01:50:54] Bryan Goodwin:
freaking care. Means we were wanting to save money.
[01:50:59] Duuude-Ron :
And I can understand that with the o h fifty eights, but I will never understand that with the a tens.
[01:51:07] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:51:08] Duuude-Ron :
Never. Never.
[01:51:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's that's why that's why I was so upset because because the cost of an f 35, you could build, you know, I mean, you could build a tens, new a tens. That's the thing. The reason why they're I I don't know why there hasn't been new a tens built.
[01:51:36] Duuude-Ron :
Neither do I. You know? Yeah. When look at the cost of a, you know, a 35 versus an a 10, how many a tens can you build versus 1 of the 30 fives? Right. Maybe 3?
[01:51:52] Rich Chelson:
Probably.
[01:51:53] Duuude-Ron :
3 to 1? Oh, I'm sure.
[01:51:58] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because, I mean, an f 35 is what? What? A 2, $3,000,000,000 plane?
[01:52:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep.
[01:52:11] Rich Chelson:
You know? And so, yeah, they can build a even with the titanium tub, you know, they could still build it for less than, less than the f 35.
[01:52:29] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, they can probably build 3 of them before they can build an f 35. But, of course, I don't know the math on all that shit and, you know, that's 15 levels above my pay grade. No. Not 15. Probably about a 150,000 levels above my pay grade. So, you know, who knows why they do what they do?
[01:52:56] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, this is I mean, we've been asking ourselves even when, oh my god, even when we were in the military. So, I mean but still yeah. The f 35 the f 35 a, damn. $109,000,000.
[01:53:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. Easy. Yeah.
[01:53:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a $109,000,000. And and a and a f 35, just a flyaway version, is 82.5. The the extra comes to the, armament and shit like this.
[01:53:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:53:44] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, that's hang on. Let's see. Good. No. This is bad having the Internet Because it's like you could find out so much.
[01:54:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing the technology of what the kids in school now can have at their fingertips versus what we had. Right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you got an encyclopedia set, you were fucking rich. You had money if you could afford an encyclopedia set.
[01:54:30] Rich Chelson:
Oh, fuck yeah, dude. I mean, that was that was, like, big time.
[01:54:34] Duuude-Ron :
Now it says Yeah.
[01:54:37] Rich Chelson:
Okay. It says when the cost for upgrades and maintenance are factored in, the total cost for an a 10 more hog is roughly $18,800,000.
[01:54:49] Duuude-Ron :
When when it was 18.8. Right? Okay.
[01:54:53] Rich Chelson:
That's that's per plane.
[01:54:55] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Right. 8 18,000,000 per plane. And how much was it for fucking f 35?
[01:55:03] Rich Chelson:
109. You could build 10 a tens and and freaking maintain them for for the same price as 1 f 35.
[01:55:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And it
[01:55:21] Rich Chelson:
it says it says, like, say where did I see it at? It says when, production was at its highest, the a ten cost around 1,400,000 per unit. And it's saying the current cost of an a ten would be considerably higher. Yeah. I mean, 18? No. I mean, well, we're spending a 109 for an f 35.
[01:55:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much. Do Yeah. Do the math. Right. Does this equate? I don't think so. Not just no, but hell no.
[01:56:04] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:56:05] Duuude-Ron :
But that's just Ron's lowly opinion and Rich's lowly opinion is we don't we don't we don't mean yeah.
[01:56:14] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's the over
[01:56:16] Duuude-Ron :
when it comes to the overall scheme.
[01:56:19] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:56:20] Duuude-Ron :
My opinion don't mean a damn thing.
[01:56:26] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It says it says, during, Operation Desert Shield Desert Storm, the a ten had 6 shoot downs where where 6 a tens were shot down and only 7 total losses out of the whole fleet. That's pretty fucking good.
[01:56:50] Duuude-Ron :
It well yeah. But Desert Shield, Desert Storm was, well, pretty well one-sided conflict Right. When it when it came down to it.
[01:57:08] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. I just I just I I mean, with with everything I've seen, you know, you know, I've I've never seen an a ten fly, you know, in person. I would I would love to.
[01:57:22] Duuude-Ron :
But Oh my god.
[01:57:24] Rich Chelson:
You would love it. I I I don't doubt it. But, you know, all you know, the videos I've seen and stuff like that, it's just like, oh my god. Yes. It it's uglier and sin, like, all of them cannons. Them. Oh, man. Yeah. They just that sound is just amazing.
[01:57:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And when it goes Uh-huh. You know, after after a wonderful soda, it goes. Oh my God. That is like I said, that will fucking give you a hard on for weeks.
[01:57:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a jolly green giant fart.
[01:58:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And the only thing that would come close for Brian was Jesus. And he wasn't even in the military before they got these, which was this which is the CWIS.
[01:58:21] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Kitty Hawk had the seawiz, and they actually test those out several times. Those were awesome things to hear. It's big old belches just
[01:58:31] Rich Chelson:
What? The Oh, yeah. What? Woah. Hang on. Seawiz, close in weapon system.
[01:58:37] Bryan Goodwin:
I know. It was designed. It was a it was radar guided, machine gun. Oh, no. A gatling gun that Yeah. If you ever look on on, like, some of the old, old, carriers and some of the older the r two d two looking gun thing. Uh-huh. The SC wiz.
[01:58:57] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:58:58] Bryan Goodwin:
And basically what it is is it would lock on to say anything coming in at them over mach 1 and would lock onto it and fire.
[01:59:08] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It says it it fires,
[01:59:12] Bryan Goodwin:
20 Depleted uranium.
[01:59:16] Duuude-Ron :
And it's just like the 8 tens. Yep.
[01:59:19] Rich Chelson:
And and it says it fires at 45 100 grams a minute. Yeah. Oh, god. That would be awesome. Say say that's the thing. I never got to hear shit like that. I would have just that's crazy. The USS Coral Sea was the first ship to be fitted with it in 80. Yeah.
[01:59:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Coral Sea Yeah. Fitted with it when?
[01:59:50] Rich Chelson:
1980.
[01:59:52] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. I didn't know that SeaWiz was that fucking old.
[01:59:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was made in the seventies, but it was it was, the first ship to be fully fitted out with it, was the USS Coral Sea in 1980.
[02:00:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, wow. Yeah. But that from then to now, oh, yeah. Watching the SeaWiz fire off. Oh, yeah. That is I've never seen one in person.
[02:00:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Brian, you said you said you seen 1 fire in person. Right? Oh, yes. Get the fuck out of you. A little game bit. I was expecting it. I was out there on the flight deck or not the flight deck, but out there on the spoken deck. Just do do do. And I was like, It's like, shit. Goddamn it.
[02:00:42] Duuude-Ron :
Now did you just hear it or see it?
[02:00:45] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I just heard it. Yeah. Didn't actually see it because of where it was at.
[02:00:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was Okay. Was it sitting up on the flight deck or just under the flight deck? Well, let's see if I can find a,
[02:00:58] Bryan Goodwin:
find a picture of Kitty Hawk.
[02:01:05] Rich Chelson:
Is this you see, that's you say, I'm I'm gonna have to find some videos on this. I'm I'm I'm gonna have to watch them and get my rocks off tonight.
[02:01:16] Duuude-Ron :
It's about the only Yeah. There's one I saw that came across my, Facebook feed, and it's like, how much does it cost to fire this, weapon and operate this weapon? You know, as the turret is turning, it costs a just based upon the video. It's saying to turn the turret costs a $100. And then as it starts firing, it's like the numbers roll, you know, like the, like the defs the rolling in numbers of the deficit. Mhmm. Yeah. When they're firing off each round, you just you know, the short burst on that one was like a $123,000.
[02:02:06] Rich Chelson:
Wow. That's crazy.
[02:02:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, you know, is it actually true? You know, I thought that John Denver was, you know, had the most kills of the sniper when he was never in the military. So so what the fuck do I know? But it's like then they're firing off some of the, ground air missiles. Each time one of those goes up, $5,000,000 $5,000,000, which is, you know, I could believe that.
[02:02:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Right. Because it's with the service There's a picture of the Kitty Hawk's aft, and, there's 2 seawizzes that are mounted on the back on the back, so you can kinda have an idea of what they look like.
[02:03:01] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. Okay. So they're sitting they're sitting on the,
[02:03:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They got them sitting on the side on the on the, on the aft. They've got some that are setting, down about midship and stuff so that they can Okay. And, but, yeah, it's you accept there, because of what they did is down the sea trials stuff, they would actually have they'd be a dude in, like, a leer jet or whatever, and they'd be pull towing a, towing a a a fake cruise missile. Okay. And, so they'd be coming in at, over, over mock one. And, you would set, you could sit there and, and, and, and know when they're well, one, you would hear when they're firing, but also you could sit there and watch the cruise missile. It'd get hit the cruise missile, and then all of a sudden it would start working its way up the wire.
Oh, hell no. Cut the wire and run, dude. Yeah. You'd see you'd see the guy. You'd watch the, the the jet guy. He'd be, he'd be flying along all nice, low, like, where he needs to be. And all of a sudden you'd start to see him start to pick up. He's like, oh god. Like, you know? The same thing. I mean, like, oh, don't hit me. Don't hit me. Don't hit me. Don't hit me. Don't hit
[02:04:25] Rich Chelson:
me. Yeah. No. It's it's saying, seaweeds cost $35100 a second.
[02:04:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I would not well, that's depleted uranium ain't cheap.
[02:04:38] Duuude-Ron :
No? Uh-uh. And that's the same thing that, rounds that they're firing out of, a 10 as well. Yeah.
[02:04:47] Rich Chelson:
So so $210,000 a minute.
[02:04:53] Duuude-Ron :
How much was it? Good.
[02:04:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But they don't fire for a full minute. It's only, like, 15, 30 seconds. Just. Yeah. But still, that's that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money come flying out of the back end of that. So Yeah. It's
[02:05:09] Rich Chelson:
yeah. It says it's, 35100 a second
[02:05:13] Duuude-Ron :
is what it cost. And what and what was for for a whole minute?
[02:05:17] Rich Chelson:
210,000.
[02:05:19] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Yeah. So I believe that.
[02:05:23] Rich Chelson:
That's I mean, that's just insane. Yeah. I'm I'm yeah. I might have to find some videos on that.
[02:05:31] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there's there's some cool ones out there. Oh, as a matter of fact, no. I don't think I've say I don't think I saved it. But if it comes back over my, my Facebook feed again, which it will, I'll send it to you. So how'd you like the, the memes that I sent today or the Yeah. The ones that I've sent you guys today?
[02:05:56] Bryan Goodwin:
I thought they're pretty cool. 1st Yeah.
[02:05:59] Duuude-Ron :
That was Yeah. I'm looking at look in the
[02:06:05] Rich Chelson:
chat. See, when it's only Wednesday and you have zero energy left to make it to Friday.
[02:06:14] Duuude-Ron :
And you see the picture above it. Right?
[02:06:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:06:18] Duuude-Ron :
A girl hanging on to a merry-go-round. Yeah. I'd say in the ground. Yeah. That's about my week. I get to go to Annis tomorrow.
[02:06:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Woo hoo.
[02:06:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know? And I'm already when I got back from Grand Prairie, got my truck inventoried and, was actually able to unload the days and load up tomorrow's, and everything is freaking pulled. I was shocked.
[02:06:58] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. You and I Cotton. Yeah.
[02:07:03] Duuude-Ron :
It would not only was fully pulled, it was fully produced. I'm like, wow. I'm not sitting around here waiting for stuff to be pumped. And I have a and I have a 100 and 20 oxygen 200, which are the, you know, ones that are about your shoulder height, that are 200 cubic feet. Uh-huh. I have a 120 of those on my truck.
[02:07:38] Rich Chelson:
Wow.
[02:07:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said. They're already done, and I'm not gonna be waiting tomorrow for to get anything pumped. Wow. Yeah. I was kinda shocked.
[02:07:50] Rich Chelson:
That's cool, dude. Yeah. That's really cool.
[02:07:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It is. So I can actually leave somewhat early. But, of course, the place that I'm going to is not going to be ready for me when I get there. Of course not. That that's okay. That's okay. You're you're right. Why? Because I get paid by the hour. There you go. And I can legally be on the clock for 14.
[02:08:26] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:08:28] Duuude-Ron :
I I don't plan on making a 14 hour day tomorrow, but, you know, we'll see how it looks like when, when I get there tomorrow. Because I got 20 pallets on the truck, or I will have 20 pallets on the truck. And supposedly, I'm supposed to have that many coming back. Yeah. We'll see if they're ready or not. But if they ain't but if they ain't, you know, I can just sit and wait. Gonna have to do that anyway. So
[02:09:05] Rich Chelson:
I'd say, hell no. It's Friday. I'm out.
[02:09:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Unfortunately, I can't do that. I've gotta go take a nap. Yeah. I might just go, yeah, in one of the offices and go take a nap. Who knows?
[02:09:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, hey. You can do that too. You know, that that freaking plant manager that that that just loves you when you get there. You go in his office, take a nap.
[02:09:35] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? Yeah. I could Oh, that works. Do that.
[02:09:38] Duuude-Ron :
See? But but the but the only thing about that is I will get in and help them correct all of their deficiencies when it comes to cylinder securement on the pallets and, of course, labels. Yeah. That's always fun. And then it's amazing that because I have to inventory every cylinder that I get put on the truck for accuracy because of inventory aspects. Right. So, you know, it it's it's funny that every time I I think they that particular, store has gotten a happy face from me. I think maybe 4 times in the last 5 years that I've been going there that they actually got the count correct the first time where I didn't have to go back and correct their count of what they said they had and what I said they had.
It's happened 4 times in the last 5 years. Well, maybe Go figure.
[02:10:56] Rich Chelson:
Maybe they will break the record.
[02:11:01] Duuude-Ron :
I mean Well, if they get you know what? It'd be nice if they if I could give them a happy face. That would be truly, truly wonderful if I could do that.
[02:11:11] Rich Chelson:
That would just that would just make your month, wouldn't it?
[02:11:17] Duuude-Ron :
And make and make their month if they got a happy face. Because like I said, I well, okay. It they it'd do the inventory on, all the cylinders. And then they put it into the computer, and then I get the initial print off of the inventory that's on the pallets. So I go out there and I check, okay, I got 1, c 25300, you know, 2 argon 3 hundreds. Right. And oxygen 200 on this pallet. And if they get everything correct the first time, I'll, you know, make a little happy face on that sheet.
[02:12:03] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:12:04] Duuude-Ron :
So they've only gotten 4 happy faces in since I've been driving. So usually usually, I have to make a correction, which is fine, you know. Nobody is perfect, but come on now. It's not that hard. Why is it that when I get there, my truck is correct? Well because I'll make sure that, you know, I inventory the stuff on my truck. So they're gonna get it correct they're gonna get it correct, load based upon the tickets. And I wanna make sure the load coming back is correct as well.
[02:12:51] Rich Chelson:
Well, of course.
[02:12:53] Duuude-Ron :
But that's just me.
[02:12:56] Rich Chelson:
That's the way it should be, especially when you're hauling hazmat. You're right. Is right.
[02:13:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. That is correct. I'll give you that.
[02:13:09] Rich Chelson:
Because if the right passenger isn't isn't isn't communicated, it could have a devastating
[02:13:18] Duuude-Ron :
problem. Oh, yeah. And, you know, and I pride myself on trying to be a 100% every time, but there's a couple of things that might slip through the cracks on me. It has happened before. You know? But I always try to I think my success rate is 99 plus percent Right. For my accuracy. You know? And that's the way it should be for everybody, but, you know, unfortunately, I can't say that.
[02:13:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. But yeah. Because you can only worry about yourself, you know, because it's your money that that will get taxed.
[02:14:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's right.
[02:14:02] Rich Chelson:
So and everybody else, well, they they do their own thing.
[02:14:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:14:09] Rich Chelson:
You know? But
[02:14:13] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I agree with that.
[02:14:16] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hey. Have y'all ever watched the movie Moana?
[02:14:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Who? Moana?
[02:14:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That yeah. That one.
[02:14:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. No.
[02:14:26] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's a it's a Disney cartoon movie.
[02:14:30] Duuude-Ron :
I'm watching. Yeah. I know what I know which one it is. I just never watched it.
[02:14:35] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. I watched it last night. I mean, it's okay, but I gotta say the music did nothing for me. Oh.
[02:14:46] Bryan Goodwin:
I just No. But I do like the chicken.
[02:14:49] Rich Chelson:
Oh, the chicken. Hey, Hank. Oh, yeah. Hey. Hey. It was funny or sad. God. He's he's about dumb as a boxer. Great. Yeah. Oh, he's great. Oh, shit. Yeah. No. That was yeah, I saw that. That was that was funny. I mean, it wasn't a bad movie or nothing, but, yeah, whoever come up with the music for it, yeah, they failed miserably. But, overall, I liked the movie. But, yeah, Hey Hey the Chicken. And that's a weird name. Hey Hey. Hey. Hey. Yeah.
[02:15:30] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. Hey.
[02:15:32] Rich Chelson:
Hi. Hey. Hey. Hey. Like in Silver Dollar City, y'all ever been there? Nope. So Y'all gotta go. Because when you go to Silver Dollar City, and you ride that train, it's it's an actual train that rides around the park. You know?
[02:15:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh.
[02:15:52] Rich Chelson:
They, they stop a couple times at at different points. And, there's this one they stop at. They got, like, 2 hillbillies, you know, sitting, you know, sitting by a a old old log house or whatnot. They, they do a little skit, and, I'm not exactly sure what the one guy says, but the other guy goes like, hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. That's that's a body or hell. I mean, it's it I you y'all gotta go see it. It's actually it's actually cool. It's it's free. You know, You just pay to get in the park and everything. The rides are all free. You know? It's like 6 weeks.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. It's yeah. When I hear that, I always think of Branson and Silver Dollar City because it's like it's like damn. Because that was funny when I went inside.
[02:16:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:16:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'll, definitely need to go.
[02:17:03] Duuude-Ron :
Maybe one day. Oh, tomorrow. Okay. There tomorrow.
[02:17:10] Rich Chelson:
You going tomorrow? Cool. What? Yes.
[02:17:17] Duuude-Ron :
I'm going tomorrow. Didn't we just already have this discussion about tomorrow earlier tonight?
[02:17:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Really do, man. Who's on 3rd? What's on 2nd? I don't know who's on 3rd.
[02:17:30] Rich Chelson:
I told you my doctor is longer in my memory. I done forgot about that. Oh my god. You're killing me, Alice. You're killing me. I know.
[02:17:46] Duuude-Ron :
And see, we're laughing at your expense. See, we're we're not gonna laugh with you. We're gonna laugh at you. Right. Yeah. There there's nothing nothing more satisfying. Right? We're not gonna laugh with you. We're gonna laugh at you. Right. And don't and don't ever ask me to to help you if you fall because I'm a be too busy laughing, and then I'm gonna get the camera out.
[02:18:17] Rich Chelson:
So I'm gonna be on the ground for a minute.
[02:18:21] Duuude-Ron :
Maybe 2. Oh, man. Oh, damn. Might even stretch to 3. You should never know.
[02:18:31] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell.
[02:18:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Well, probably when you start throwing rocks at me. You know? I will I definitely stop filming and taking pictures at that point. Give you a hand up.
[02:18:44] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, shit. Yeah.
[02:18:50] Duuude-Ron :
We don't want you to hurt, you know, too much. But eventually, we'd help you out.
[02:18:57] Rich Chelson:
Right. Hey. Since when since when did, say a say a, Mexico get a female president?
[02:19:08] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. Don't keep up Mexico.
[02:19:11] Rich Chelson:
I just I I just I just happened to say it. I mean, I'm not I, you know, I'm not saying, you know, don't do it, but I didn't know. They had, you know, they had had an election, and Mexico has a female president. It it was just it was just kinda, yeah, it just kinda set me back. I'm like I mean, it's cool, but
[02:19:38] Duuude-Ron :
I was just like, hey. I think there's another country that just elected their first female president as well. And it might might have been Mexico that I heard, but I think there's another one that just elected their first, female president ever.
[02:19:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I mean, I'm not yeah. I'm not knocking it by no means. But, yeah, it's just, you know, like like, especially in these other countries where, you know, it's always been basically dictators.
[02:20:10] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Male dominated sports.
[02:20:12] Rich Chelson:
Right. You know. But, you know, and, you know, to see, you know, someone else, you know, see a female, you know, you know, doing it is I mean, I'm not saying it's it's a bad thing.
[02:20:30] Duuude-Ron :
It just happened. Been for us. It would have been for us.
[02:20:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But
[02:20:37] Duuude-Ron :
Maybe one day, there will be one that is worth their wait.
[02:20:46] Rich Chelson:
Right. Nice choice of words. I like that, dude.
[02:20:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, again, who are who do we vote for? The lesser of the 2 evils?
[02:21:00] Rich Chelson:
Which we shouldn't have to. I mean, we You're right. I mean, I yeah. Yeah. We could talk about this till we're blue in the face.
[02:21:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Which we're which we're not gonna do because, you know, nobody wants our opinion on politics.
[02:21:17] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:21:19] Duuude-Ron :
You know, because the the between the 3 of us, it would be a one-sided conversation.
[02:21:27] Rich Chelson:
Pretty much. Pretty much. I mean I mean, I I mean, I will listen to the other side, and I might even agree with 1 or 2 things. But, Yeah. I'm not I'm I'm not gonna agree with everything.
[02:21:44] Duuude-Ron :
With the overall agenda? Oh, hell no. Yeah. No. Not eve not even close.
[02:21:51] Rich Chelson:
Oh, oh, I don't know if y'all know this. I just found this out today. The Republicans now have both the senate and the house.
[02:22:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Knew about that one.
[02:22:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Same here. Yeah. Well, see, I didn't. I just I just saw it today because I I was I was reading something, and and I I saw an article that said the senate, that, the, republicans, had the house and I'm like, what? And I looked and checked and said, yeah, we're at, 219. I was like, okay, cool.
[02:22:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Now So the now all we have to do is worry about the, the the Republicans snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
[02:22:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You know, just as long as they put into law to fucking get rid of daylight savings time. Because do you think we really need it anymore? They created that for fucking lamp oil.
[02:22:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. We don't I mean, we we haven't needed it, but everyone says, well, oh, we've had it this long. Might as well just keep it. Because everyone's too fucking scared to stand up and say, hey, fuck you. Change it.
[02:23:11] Duuude-Ron :
We don't need it anymore. Hell, we're the only fucking country that does it.
[02:23:15] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:23:19] Duuude-Ron :
So every time you go into Canada from where you're at, you know, go through the border. You gotta fucking change your damn
[02:23:26] Rich Chelson:
watch. Yeah.
[02:23:29] Duuude-Ron :
Because they don't follow it. We're the only ones that do. Why? Because we're a bunch of fucking morons. We don't need the shit anymore. We haven't for yeah. We haven't needed that now since
[02:23:48] Rich Chelson:
We didn't need it in the 1st place, dude. Because if you can't look out if you can't look out your fucking window and see it getting dark and light your lamp, something's fucking wrong.
[02:24:03] Duuude-Ron :
Well, the whole purpose was is to, you know, better usage of the lamp oil. How you figure? Because
[02:24:13] Rich Chelson:
how you figure? Because the sun doesn't change.
[02:24:18] Duuude-Ron :
I know that.
[02:24:20] Rich Chelson:
So so, I mean, when it gets dark, you need light. Light your lamp. When it gets light, you don't need your lamp.
[02:24:27] Duuude-Ron :
Extinguish it. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:24:30] Rich Chelson:
The freaking oil usage doesn't change.
[02:24:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Actually, they've seen that, dear, when daylight savings does kick in, it actually increases the amount of, electricity and oil being used. Yeah. Does the exact opposite, which is what government normally does. We're gonna fix this by destroying it.
[02:24:57] Rich Chelson:
Hello? Yep.
[02:24:59] Duuude-Ron :
I'm gonna fix it by doing the opposite. Right.
[02:25:04] Rich Chelson:
Opposite day, man. Do you remember that? Opposite day, dude. We need to bring that back, opposite day.
[02:25:13] Duuude-Ron :
No. I can't say that I remember that one. What?
[02:25:17] Rich Chelson:
Dude, that that was high school, man. We had opposite day, dude. That was cool as shit. Explain
[02:25:25] Duuude-Ron :
it to me to where I might have, but I don't remember.
[02:25:31] Rich Chelson:
Opposite day is like it's like,
[02:25:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Just as it sounds. Everything was opposite of what you were doing. Yeah.
[02:25:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And, like, you know, you wore your clothes backwards. It was opposite of the way you normally wore your clothes. And it Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Then yeah. That was I've done that. Yeah. Okay. I got you. Yeah, man. That was that was a shit. So but see, that's the thing. You know? I mean, I don't know. But you see, the thing is if if we stop daylight savings time, we would still have to change, like like some of these some of these appliances that automatically change, the time, and there's some of them that do. Yeah. You would have to, go back and and change the time on those still.
[02:26:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. So that takes what? 20 seconds out of your day?
[02:26:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Just to create it just recreates the, the blinking 12 problem that we always had in the eighties.
[02:26:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. With the VCRs?
[02:26:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. No one would set it. Just blinky 12.
[02:26:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah.
[02:26:52] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean I mean, that was the hardest thing to set on a VCR back in Oh, they weren't hard. It wasn't challenging at all. It was just, you know, it's just the fact that you had to do it. You had to know where where to look on what to set. And once you got it set, it was it was okay. But, you know Bless you. You'd lose the power, and then it would be blinking again. Right. Right. So it's like That's exactly right. So just leave it at fucking 12, and
[02:27:19] Duuude-Ron :
at least the clock would be twice right
[02:27:22] Rich Chelson:
twice a day. Twice a day. That's right.
[02:27:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. The rest of the time, I've had a clock now hanging up above my TV that has what time is that? 6:32 probably for the last 5 years. Because I need to go get a I need to go get a new motor for it.
[02:27:51] Rich Chelson:
Suit, dude. Hobby Lobby or Walmart?
[02:27:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Hobby Lobby. Yeah. But I can look down about 3 feet and, damn, there's a time right there on the cable box.
[02:28:04] Rich Chelson:
Oh, ain't you fancy? Dude, it's a clock. You know? I I mean, you could fix Or I can
[02:28:14] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. Or I can pick up my phone and gives me the time there too.
[02:28:18] Rich Chelson:
That's too much work, man. It's too much work. I'm telling you. Yeah. You're right. It is too much work to replace that motor in that clock. No. It's not. I say say say
[02:28:29] Duuude-Ron :
I know. Laziness.
[02:28:31] Rich Chelson:
If I don't have my phone near me, well, I've got I've got one Alexa that has the time on it that shows me a time. I've got another one that doesn't have no time. So so if I'm not looking at at the one that has the time, I'll just I'll just freaking ask Alexa.
[02:28:51] Duuude-Ron :
And seeing as how you don't have to set your alarm to get up tomorrow to go to work, What is what is time?
[02:29:02] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, I do I do I do try to I do try to get up at a decent hour. You know?
[02:29:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. But when you wake up, was it time dictated?
[02:29:14] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell no. No. Absolutely not. It was pain dictated. Because, you know, my body was like, yo, motherfucker, get your ass out of bed. Yeah. And I'm like, no. They're like, oh, yeah. You just wait about 5 more minutes. And it's like, oh, fuck. Okay. Then I take my pills.
[02:29:35] Duuude-Ron :
Where's your coffee?
[02:29:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yes. With my coffee. I said, dude, it's it's coffee every morning. Well, hell yeah. And, yeah. I mean, I don't I might let's see. I'll walk out on the front porch. I will not wave or say hi to anybody. Because sometimes my neighbor, I see him, but, yeah, I don't I don't look anybody's way until I've had at least 4 cups coffee. Then I might think about it, and and then see. And then I'll finish my pot. And then it'd be like, okay. I can get moving. And that's normally 11, 11:30. So
[02:30:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there you go.
[02:30:23] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm.
[02:30:25] Duuude-Ron :
Just just in time. And as soon as you get done with that, you're just in time to go take a nap.
[02:30:32] Rich Chelson:
No. I gotta eat breakfast, dude.
[02:30:34] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Sorry. In? We we miss breakfast. Okay. Breakfast, then a nap.
[02:30:39] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Then I could take a nap. Lunch.
[02:30:43] Duuude-Ron :
Lunch, then a nap.
[02:30:47] Rich Chelson:
Well, lunch and breakfast is about the same time, you know. And then, yeah, I won't eat nothing until,
[02:30:57] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know, 5, 6 o'clock, and then that's it. Well, that's a great time to have an amp. Between between what? 1 and 5?
[02:31:10] Rich Chelson:
Wake up, eat dinner, and then what? Go back to bed?
[02:31:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Go take a nap. Yeah. So that we know that that's what you're gonna do on, Thanksgiving. Why? Because 90% of the nation does it.
[02:31:25] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:31:26] Duuude-Ron :
Gets up, cooks, eats, go take a nap.
[02:31:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, I might because, I got a turkey because when I went on base to go shopping this last time
[02:31:40] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:31:41] Rich Chelson:
They had turkeys for 69¢
[02:31:45] Duuude-Ron :
a pound.
[02:31:49] Rich Chelson:
So, yeah, I scored. I scored for a turkey, man, before Thanksgiving at that.
[02:31:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So what'd you what did it run you about? $1,327?
[02:32:00] Rich Chelson:
No. Less than that. Less than that. I only got, I think I got a 14 pound turkey.
[02:32:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:32:08] Rich Chelson:
So I didn't I didn't get a big one this year.
[02:32:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah? Well, it's, you know, the
[02:32:14] Rich Chelson:
Cost me $9.66 for that turkey.
[02:32:19] Duuude-Ron :
Wow. Right? Wow.
[02:32:22] Rich Chelson:
Right?
[02:32:23] Duuude-Ron :
I scored, dude. You definitely scored because they were running fucking what? 30, $40 usually.
[02:32:32] Rich Chelson:
That's why I go to the commissary. Because, yeah, 69¢ a pound. I was like, fuck yeah. Game on, baby. So I'll I'll probably cook that, on Thanksgiving. I don't know if I'll smoke it this time or not. I think I think I might just, cook it in the oven.
[02:33:00] Duuude-Ron :
Because I Yeah. Because smoking smoking is gonna take you how long?
[02:33:05] Rich Chelson:
Oh, smoking it, at the most, 6, 7 hours.
[02:33:12] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:33:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. And and and the thing, smoking a turkey the only thing you have to worry about smoking a turkey is it has to go from, I believe, it's a 100 100 degrees to a 140, like, in a matter of an hour. And if it doesn't, you throw the turkey away. It's it's ruined. It's it's Oh, okay. So because because you're, cooking it so slow. But, normally, the past couple times that I smoked a turkey, I haven't had no problem reaching temperature in in the time frame.
[02:33:53] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:33:54] Rich Chelson:
So but, but, yeah, I was just thinking since since I have a full oven that I just might cook it in the oven. I do plan to inject it with, creole butter, though.
[02:34:09] Bryan Goodwin:
It's something new that I found done. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's some good stuff. Yeah. For sure for sure it's good stuff.
[02:34:18] Rich Chelson:
And say, I Well, after
[02:34:20] Duuude-Ron :
after you get done doing making the turkey and all the trimmings, the stuffings, you know, all that stuff on Friday, just cut me up, you know, a good pile and just drive it over here and drop it off for leftovers.
[02:34:39] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Bring ass over here. You drive. You drive, dude.
[02:34:45] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right. You don't wanna drive this anymore for the rest of the year. No, man. At least you wouldn't be at least you wouldn't be driving any place, that has white air accumulating on the ground.
[02:34:57] Rich Chelson:
Well, you do have a point. You do have a point. But, yeah, I I I don't really wanna drive any anywhere this the rest of this year. Around here, that's fine. But, no, I I yeah. It's you know, I didn't I didn't know how far I had drove until I sat one day and was adding it up. And I'm like, good god. Because normally, driving 10,000 miles of gear didn't bother me at all, you know, in a car or a vehicle. You know? Yeah. Normally, it didn't bother me, but it's it's just it's just the last couple years. It it just it's really got to me.
You know? Because it's like, you know, I I don't know. It feels it feels like I have to bring half the house with me. Well, you know, I have to make sure I've got I've got my tools if I break down, you know, shit. Yeah. And
[02:35:58] Duuude-Ron :
Clothes, cameras, drones, computers.
[02:36:02] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. So it's like it's like, no. I'm just fucking tired.
[02:36:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:36:09] Rich Chelson:
And besides, I live in a beautiful area. Y'all come down and see me.
[02:36:18] Duuude-Ron :
So Well, I bet you I'll get there.
[02:36:21] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know you will. Tomorrow.
[02:36:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Which won't be tomorrow?
[02:36:28] Duuude-Ron :
Which won't be tomorrow. It'll be today. Yep.
[02:36:35] Rich Chelson:
Oh God. Yeah. And Richard going,
[02:36:37] Duuude-Ron :
what the fuck? God damn it. I still can't fucking, I just can't wrap my head around that line. No, I can't. I ain't.
[02:36:46] Rich Chelson:
I cannot. That just that that just does not compute.
[02:36:54] Duuude-Ron :
And for the first 10 months that I was in Korea Mhmm. I did I could not figure out why the fuck we could not get a USA Today on Sunday, the newspaper.
[02:37:09] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh.
[02:37:10] Duuude-Ron :
Couldn't figure out why we couldn't get a USA Today on Sunday. Well, gee, dumbass. It only took me 10 months to fucking figure out that, jeez, South Korea's 18 hours ahead of the central time zone where I'd come from. Right. Mass. Yeah. It was already that's when I was in tomorrow. Yeah.
[02:37:41] Rich Chelson:
I'm still lost.
[02:37:43] Duuude-Ron :
Because we wouldn't get to USA Today until Monday.
[02:37:48] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:37:51] Duuude-Ron :
So
[02:37:52] Rich Chelson:
And and that was Saturday's version. Right?
[02:37:57] Duuude-Ron :
No. That USA Today always came out on Sunday. Oh. That newspaper? Yeah.
[02:38:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I guess it's out.
[02:38:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It only came out on Sunday.
[02:38:12] Rich Chelson:
You sure about that?
[02:38:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It was a weekly new it was a weekly newsprint, right, Brent?
[02:38:22] Bryan Goodwin:
I no. I'm thinking that I would now these questions, and I'm thinking that was might have been New York Times, the Sunday paper that everyone usually gets, but let's see here.
[02:38:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because I would because I I was thinking because I I mean, I used to read the USA Today, and I I mean, I loved it.
[02:38:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it it the only I believe they only produced it once a week, which was delivered on Sundays. It it very well. But I could be wrong. Well I'm sure I could be wrong.
[02:39:05] Bryan Goodwin:
But, you know, for 10 months, I couldn't figure out why the fuck we don't have a USA Today. You know? USA Today, a a typical, of most daily newspapers, the paper does not print on Saturdays or Sundays. The Friday edition serves the weekend edition.
[02:39:25] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:39:26] Duuude-Ron :
Then what the fuck did yeah. I don't know then.
[02:39:28] Bryan Goodwin:
It had to have been, New York Times because everybody was all excited about the New York Times Sunday edition.
[02:39:35] Duuude-Ron :
No. It wasn't the New York Times.
[02:39:38] Rich Chelson:
I know that. Did that in South Korea. Well, I mean, we might have. I I never saw it. Yeah. I know. I was pissed when the price went up from 50¢ to 75. Oh, I was hot, man.
[02:39:54] Duuude-Ron :
So USA Today was a daily paper Monday through Friday then? Right. Okay.
[02:40:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'd I had thought it was, but, yeah, that was so long ago since I've read a USA Today. It's like, yeah, I couldn't remember
[02:40:09] Duuude-Ron :
to be, you know Well, I'm surprised that any newspaper is still in actual print for the most part.
[02:40:16] Rich Chelson:
No. This yeah.
[02:40:18] Bryan Goodwin:
This Well, the only thing that's the only thing that newspapers and Adam Curry talks about this a lot of times, in that the newspapers used advertisements, yes, to help bring in to to help run the, the paper. But the most important thing to a newspaper for the longest time was the, classified ads. That's where they made all their money.
[02:40:48] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:40:49] Bryan Goodwin:
And, and when Craigslist came along and decimated the, the the obit not the obituaries Classified. But the classified ads Yeah. That's when the newspapers really started to struggle because they weren't willing to try to find a way to modernize themselves. They were they're still trying to stick to the old style of doing things, like, with, like, with advertisements. And advertisements don't work. Advertisements are a race one. They're a race to the bottom. You've got the ads, ad buyers or the ad sellers who are trying to do it for as cheap as possible.
And so, yeah, when when and you can still actually do decent with advertisement, but it's gonna be something where you're doing, like, a local, podcast or a local blog or something like that where you're talking about local stuff and you're getting the local, companies involved in their advertising because they're specifically targeting the people who would be interested in your blog or podcast or whatever. Yeah. So so people like, podcasters, are finding this out. They're trying to do, trying to do advertising. And yeah.
20 years ago, 15 years ago, when you did an ad, you you could actually go off and say, you, we'll cover we'll do an ad. It'll be, $300 a month. And people would be, alright. Yeah. That sounds really good. But, you know, as long as they you they got enough, business to to warrant that, then you were good. What they run into now is that they're trying to do programmatic ads and and stuff where it's just, alright. Every, every 15 minutes, put 2 ads in here. And so they shoved all these these inconsequential don't don't have anything to do with you type ads. It'd be like on, people listening to my show. It's about masculinity, about men, and they would probably be put stick in Tampax tampon ads in the middle of it.
It's like, dude, my my group is are men. And no, I'm not fucking woke. So a man does not bleed unless he was kicked in the car really fucking hard. Alright? So, no, you don't need a Tampax tampon. So well, unless you have a bloody nose, then those things work amazing for a bloody nose. Just just speaking from experience on that one.
[02:43:43] Duuude-Ron :
I see. Okay.
[02:43:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. You ever have a bloody nose that you can't stop? Cram a cram a tampon up up your nose. You look a little stupid walking around with the string flapping around for a bit, but after after a little bit, you you pluck it out. I mean, it's supposed to be absorbing. It absorbs blood, so it does what it's it's doing what it's supposed to do. It's just out of your nose. So, you know, it it does the fucking job. Alright? Just there's my helpful tip for the day. Just if you got a bloody nose you can't stop, use a tampon.
[02:44:19] Duuude-Ron :
So but, There you go. There you go. Wow.
[02:44:23] Rich Chelson:
It does work. I've heard it does work.
[02:44:27] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I have no doubts in my ever loving mind. And it that is a great tip.
[02:44:33] Bryan Goodwin:
So but advertisers are they're dropping down to where doing, per 1,000 basis. So you may get, you know, $5 for every 1,000 downloads. So, yeah, if you're making 10,000, you know, making 10,000, downloads. Alright. So you've got about, let's see, $5 per 1,000, 10000, so that's about $10. Or not, again, too pretty for math. About $50. Yeah. So I mean, not re it it's not bad. It's not great. Because I mean, again, if you're if you're doing local, you could be making 250 a month. Divide that out by 4 weeks. And which one are you doing better on?
[02:45:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:45:33] Rich Chelson:
The 2.50 a month by far. Yeah.
[02:45:39] Bryan Goodwin:
So, you know, it's advertising is not only does the advertising cause you to have to censor yourself because you're having to make sure you don't offend the, the the the advertisers at all. They've got, you know well, they don't do Garm. Garm's falling apart, but thankfully. But at the same time, you still have people running around going, well, we've got this AI for brand safety. And so, yeah, you're you're deadening off, the the color the colorfulness of a good podcast. And instead of talking about, you know, your, podcast about, about porn recovery. Well, you can't talk about porn. You can't talk about the dangers of porn because, you know, anytime you mention porn, that's gonna be a ding against, against you for the, according to the AI.
So all of a sudden, you're doing a lot of a lot of good for people, but they're like, well, we can't be talk we can't be doing anything around porn. Well, I'm porn recovery. I'm helping keep guys away from porn. It's actually a very, you know, a very noble, venture to be, to be advertising on. And so, you know, to to be able to to advertise on that, you're going to block yourself because of this of what your topic is and the fact that there are is this brand safety thing, this whole we gotta be safe. We gotta make sure we keep our our, Yeah. Keep our keep our image impeccable.
[02:47:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And AI does not follow the, concept of common sense.
[02:47:28] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Nope. It is very, very, very literal.
[02:47:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know? So Collin Pinn's goes a long way, and we don't have any of that anymore. No. No. That's been that's been bred out of us in the past
[02:47:42] Bryan Goodwin:
past 2 generations at least.
[02:47:45] Rich Chelson:
Yep. But but see, though, that's where that's where using AI and stuff like that. Someone with common sense can actually take what it says and and, you know, make it in their mind.
[02:48:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely correct. You know? But, again, common sense is not so common anymore. Yeah. They have to People don't, you know, you know, for the most part, society is a bunch of sheeples.
[02:48:17] Rich Chelson:
Yes. A lot, Yeah. A lot of them are.
[02:48:21] Duuude-Ron :
You know, they say they think, you know, our self. Yeah. What's the word I'm looking for? The phrase I'm looking for. Yeah. Think for themselves and speak for themselves, but when it comes down to it, no. They're just gonna follow the you know, just follow along with the norm.
[02:48:46] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well well well, basically and and, I mean, you can see this in your own neighborhood. Okay? If someone buys a boat, everybody else buys a boat. If someone buys a golf cart, everybody else buys a golf cart. If someone buys a Chevy, it's, I mean, it's the same thing. You know, it's it's like everybody has to follow the leader. And this is why yeah. Yeah. I guess, like, I I guess I'd I I only have a couple friends, like, y'all because I don't follow the leader. I don't run out and buy the boat that everybody else buys or said, I don't even buy a boat. You know?
Right. You know, I don't I don't I don't play father leaders
[02:49:34] Duuude-Ron :
because Or or competing with the Joneses.
[02:49:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That too. You know? But but it's funny. You know? People say, oh, I'm I'm independent. I'm independent. No. I hate to say it, but she ain't. And then, oh my god. You just bursted their bubble. You broke their heart, you know, and they need to go talk to a therapist because they don't know how to how to handle that.
[02:50:02] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah. I'll yeah. I'll never compete with the Joneses. No. Me neither. Because usually the Joneses have a bottomless pocket. Well And they could knock themselves out.
[02:50:16] Rich Chelson:
No. They're just more in debt than you like everyone else is.
[02:50:20] Duuude-Ron :
Well yeah. Or they're gonna be more in debt than I am.
[02:50:24] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. And and that's yeah. Everything they have is on payments. Yep. And they don't have nothing paid off.
[02:50:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:50:38] Rich Chelson:
That's where I like having shit paid off. I I can't say that now because, you know, I have a house note, a roof note, a lawnmower note.
[02:50:46] Bryan Goodwin:
A car, no.
[02:50:48] Rich Chelson:
So oh god. Yeah. Thank you for thanks for that for being there. Good dude. I appreciate that. Yeah. Car, no. No. You're right. Car, no. So yeah. So yeah. I can't say that, but I am limiting everything and trying to get shit paid off as soon as possible.
[02:51:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I can agree with that. Because
[02:51:15] Rich Chelson:
oh, man. When I had my house paid off up north, my Jeep paid off, I mean, I owed nothing. Oh my god. I was like, wow. That was awesome.
[02:51:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And look at you now. Right? Only, what, a quarter of a $1,000,000 in debt?
[02:51:36] Rich Chelson:
No. Not not quite.
[02:51:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, do you okay. How much do you own the house?
[02:51:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, we ain't gotta go on there. We're we're not gonna go into that. But, anyway I'm tell you what. One 8 1 8th of a, of a $1,000,000 in debt. How about that? We're we're closer. No. I don't care. It's 7:30 seconds. 7:30 seconds. How about that? Say my Jeep,
[02:52:00] Rich Chelson:
total on my roof, say, I'm probably about 180.
[02:52:07] Duuude-Ron :
180? Okay. Alright. Give or take. Yeah. Yeah. So you were at Bureau at one time, now you're a $180,000 in debt.
[02:52:16] Rich Chelson:
Yep. And that was just because I got too cold and decided to move.
[02:52:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:52:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:52:29] Duuude-Ron :
Now you're competing with the Joneses.
[02:52:32] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No.
[02:52:34] Duuude-Ron :
To see to see how much further you can go into debt.
[02:52:38] Rich Chelson:
No. Oh, God, no. Oh, hell no. Hey. I'm the only I'm the only one that got a new roof around here. I ain't no other motherfucker getting a new roof.
[02:52:53] Duuude-Ron :
Well, well No. I didn't say for a new roof, but, you know, just overall, you know, gotta put shit on a credit card and, you know, gotta have rims and tires for the Jeep and a lift for the Jeep. Well, let's just put it on the credit card. Oh, no. No. No. No. You see, that's why that's why
[02:53:13] Rich Chelson:
I've only done tires. I haven't done wheels yet. I would like to, but I can't. And I haven't done a lift yet because of the all this. It's like, I've got probably in a either next year or year and a half from now, I can possibly do this.
[02:53:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because you're gonna save up for it, not go into debt over it. Right. Yeah. Alright. I get you. I get you. Man. 4. PO Poe. PO Poe. That's right. PO Poe. Yeah. I can't wait. I cannot wait for June. Man, I can't wait for June.
[02:53:55] Rich Chelson:
Right? Because you won't be as PO PO.
[02:54:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I'll be $900 less of PO PO.
[02:54:07] Rich Chelson:
Right? That'd be a nice. Yeah. That'll be a nice bonus.
[02:54:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. It will. Yep. May, the Jeep will be paid off. That's 900 a month.
[02:54:22] Rich Chelson:
Damn.
[02:54:26] Duuude-Ron :
But I did it to, you know, for the fact of to have a, what, a 4 year loan versus a 6 year loan? Right. Yeah. I was just trying to get it paid off faster. So, yeah, I knew what I was getting into when I did that for No. $900 a month because that Jeep was see, I financed $50,000 and then I got 3 almost $4,000 under it.
[02:55:06] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:55:09] Duuude-Ron :
No. Got more debt. It's over 5,000 under it.
[02:55:17] Rich Chelson:
Yes. So you
[02:55:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it was $1200 when I bent the, drag link of the tire rod. That's $1200 just in parts.
[02:55:27] Rich Chelson:
But say this
[02:55:29] Duuude-Ron :
That won't happen again. Right. I'll break I'll break some joints now.
[02:55:35] Rich Chelson:
Right. I got you there. I mean, that's cheap. But but you see, $5,000, I could find a whole bunch of other shit to spend $5,000 on.
[02:55:45] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I yeah. I will not disagree with you on that at all. Well, no. I need
[02:55:54] Rich Chelson:
it. Either be a new drone or a camera.
[02:55:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Fuck fuck the, rock crawling. I wanna get me a drone.
[02:56:05] Rich Chelson:
There you go. There you go, man. Get a drone, dude. You can see if I gotta
[02:56:11] Duuude-Ron :
you know, I would rather much rather have a RC plane than have a drone or an RC helicopter
[02:56:21] Rich Chelson:
than have a drone. That would be cool. I've seen videos of the big RC helicopters. They're like, you know, they're like those guys I've heard I've heard some amounts. I don't know how true it is, but they're like $90,000, man. It's like, dude, you've got way too much fucking money. Yeah. But they're cool, man. It's it's like it's like Oh, yeah. They are. The size of a fucking helicopter. I mean, it's huge.
[02:56:49] Duuude-Ron :
I can't remember what movie celebrity. I'll probably they'll probably wake me up at 3 o'clock tomorrow morning of who this actually was. And if I do that, I will definitely call you, Rich. Okay. And let you know.
[02:57:04] Rich Chelson:
Because I because I know tomorrow's not coming. So it'll be today morning.
[02:57:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It'll be today morning at 3 o'clock in the morning. And then you're gonna say, what the fuck are you calling me at 3 o'clock in a goddamn morning for this goddamn bullshit? But, anyways, this this celebrity has a bardomidium for a lack lack of a better word. It's it's a house, but it looks like a barn. It's bigger than my house. This is his workshop for his RC planes, and he built himself a runway on his property so that he could launch his RC planes. He has a c 7 or c 5 a c 5 RC plane, and the wingspan is about 12 feet.
[02:58:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[02:58:02] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool.
[02:58:05] Duuude-Ron :
And it it I think that that airplane that he built was, like, you know, $50,000 to build that airplane.
[02:58:17] Rich Chelson:
That's crazy.
[02:58:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But that's just one of his RC planes. He had, a Learjet. He had, a fighter jet. I don't remember what model. He had the the c five, and then, you know, he has a lot of Marcy planes. But he built himself his own runway so he could launch his planes.
[02:58:50] Rich Chelson:
I'd say that'd be freaking cool.
[02:58:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It would be.
[02:58:54] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm looking at this, Blackhawk. Your 860 Blackhawk for $2,000.
[02:59:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And if you've never flown 1 before, you're gonna have it in the air for about 10 seconds, and then you're gonna crash land it. And that $2,000 just went to waste.
[02:59:20] Rich Chelson:
I'll cry. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. It's a 1 eighth scale.
[02:59:26] Duuude-Ron :
1 eighth?
[02:59:27] Rich Chelson:
1 eighth. Yeah. The size of real Blackhawk.
[02:59:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So the the rotor span is what? Probably about 5 feet? No. Probably about 4 feet.
[02:59:44] Rich Chelson:
I'd say 4 feet. Yeah. Just just by the looks of the rotors. Yeah. About 4 foot.
[02:59:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:59:52] Rich Chelson:
That's I mean, that's crazy. Uh-huh. Yeah. To get everything for it would be about $34100, Like, the remote control and all this other stuff.
[03:00:06] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, so the it just it's just the helicopter for 2,000. Then you have to get all the fucking servos and all that other shit. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Maybe if I maybe when I win the lottery tomorrow night, I'll think about it.
[03:00:25] Rich Chelson:
See, that would be cool as shit, though.
[03:00:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It would. Now to have that and put a camera up underneath of it like a drone, now that would be cool. Yeah. You
[03:00:41] Rich Chelson:
you could figure out a way to do that. It wouldn't be that hard. Oh, yeah. Oh, do
[03:00:47] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. But I'd rather have that versus having a drone. But that's just wrong.
[03:00:56] Rich Chelson:
What did drones ever do to you, man?
[03:01:03] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. Kinda pissed me off maybe once. I don't know.
[03:01:09] Rich Chelson:
I just had to give you shit, dude. I know. But, yeah, that would be cool to have a fucking Blackhawk like that. Oh, shit. But, yeah, I'm not spending that oh, man. A Chinook. Oh, I love a Chinook.
[03:01:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that would even be a lot harder to maneuver.
[03:01:33] Rich Chelson:
I wouldn't doubt it. It'd still be cool, though.
[03:01:37] Duuude-Ron :
You're right. It would be. But, actually, the a Chinook is harder to maneuver than a single rotor is.
[03:01:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I can believe it, man. I can definitely believe it. Man, got me freaking looking at all these RC helicopters. And there's ones that aren't $2,000. There's, like, one for, 270. Another one here for 5.94.
[03:02:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[03:02:16] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[03:02:18] Duuude-Ron :
I would definitely start with the cheap shit before you go out and crash land the bit the high dollar one.
[03:02:26] Rich Chelson:
Well, if you ever come by and see me flying upside down, yeah, you know I'm having fun.
[03:02:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah.
[03:02:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was funny. A guy that, that had taught me how to drive a truck years ago. He always said, if he ever won the lottery, he was gonna buy a freaking helicopter. He didn't care. He was gonna go out and buy a helicopter. And he looked at me and told me he said he said he said, if you ever see me flying upside down, don't worry about it. I'm dead. Good. I mean I mean, he he was in Vietnam. Okay? And, he had rode in helicopters, and he he just loved helicopters. He wanted to always fly 1. He's like, if I win the lottery, I'm gonna buy a fucking helicopter. He says, I'm gonna be on the news. I guarantee it. I'm gonna be on the news for flying upside down. I said, alright, dude.
I'll just I'll just come scoop you up. He says, alright. But, yeah, he was yeah. He he never did win the lottery. Yeah.
[03:03:36] Duuude-Ron :
They helped me. I just get a couple more Jeeps and a couple of hot rods, and I'll be done. I would definitely not have a car collection like, Jay Leno has.
[03:03:53] Rich Chelson:
Why not, dude?
[03:03:57] Duuude-Ron :
He's only got a couple 1,000 vehicles in his collection.
[03:04:00] Bryan Goodwin:
So Yeah. But good grief. He's gotten horrible luck. You see that he fell, like, 60 feet off a cliff earlier this week?
[03:04:07] Rich Chelson:
No. What was he doing?
[03:04:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. But he was apparently 6 feet up in the air on a cliff and decided to go topple off of it. And somebody needs to wrap him up in in bubble wrap. I mean, hell, he's blown himself up in 1 car, had a motorcycle wreck a couple years later, and now he's tumbled. He he's being he's chucking himself off a cliff. So
[03:04:33] Rich Chelson:
Lord.
[03:04:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The only the only thing I can say about that is ouch.
[03:04:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. His face is all bruised up. It's it's pretty wild. But before we go, wanted to, I was watching, Yellowstone and it caused me to, and on the yellow on, I'm watching season 3. It's the one with, with the girl, teeter in it. And there's an old, trusty old cowboy who's, who's a bad guy. And we watched it through there and I mean, he looked kind of familiar, but didn't really strike it anything to me Until the after they spoilers if you the crusty old cowboy ends up getting killed. I'm not gonna tell you how he gets killed, but he gets killed pretty wild way. But he gets killed. And at the end of that episode, it said in loving memory of Wilford Brimley.
[03:05:29] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no way. Yeah.
[03:05:32] Bryan Goodwin:
He's in, he was in, in Yellowstone. The funny thing is it got me it got me to wonder. It's like, holy shit. I thought he'd already died. He'd and come to find out he died back in 2020. No way. Really? Yeah. I thought he died like in 2000 or something, like 2,005 or something.
[03:05:51] Rich Chelson:
Wow.
[03:05:52] Bryan Goodwin:
I didn't know he did. Here here's the kick to the dick that got me, though. Do you know how old he was when he did Cocoon? No. K. What would, who was he in cocoon? He was an old guy at him and his FA his friends and his wife were all living in a retirement community. They all looked 11ty. Right? Mhmm. He was 51 years old when he made cocoon. He is my fucking age.
[03:06:30] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[03:06:32] Bryan Goodwin:
It's like, no wonder I have a hard time believing that I'm 51. Because everybody before me that was 51 that I looked to, I thought they were, you know, 70, 80 years old, which is what I thought Wilford Brimley was there in in Cocoon. Right. But no. No. Fucker was 51 years old. Hell. Yeah.
[03:06:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. It's it. You see, that's the thing. We don't realize just how much toll life takes, you know, until until How hard how how harder life was back then, apparently. Good grief. Right. Right. And, see, that's the thing. You know, when you look at yourself in the mirror, I mean, you don't think of of it really until, you know, someone says something or or you see someone you know you know that is almost the same age as you. And you're like, oh, fuck. I don't look like that, do I? And then you start like, oh, shit. Yeah, dude.
[03:07:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, and then you go off and you look like Kevin Costner in Yellowstone. He looks like he may be late fifties to mid sixties. Right. He doesn't look that fucking old. But he I mean, granted, he's not he's not Tom Cruise. Let we're gonna drink the, the tears of virgins to stay young type of type of, of looking young. But he looks he looks young. Well, he's younger than Wilford Brimley was back in Cocoon. Right. But he's older than Wilford what Wilford Brimley was back in Cocoon. He's like 65, 70?
[03:08:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. 69.
[03:08:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Cool. I mean, it's like holy smokes. And I mean, Jesus Christ and all the other, you know, words that mean holy shit. It's just you have somebody like Wilford Brimley and and, you know, what were some, what were some of the, Ernest Berg nine. Right. Right. I mean, there's a lot of guys you solved, and they were like going, oh god. Those are old sons of bitches. And come to find out, no, they were just middle aged motherfuckers. It's like, goddamn, man. I I don't know how to feel about that. I'm it's like part of me is going, well, okay. At least I now know that I'm not old. But I'm as old as he was, and he looks horrible.
[03:09:01] Rich Chelson:
Right. And so it's it's yeah. It's a scary thought. You know? I mean, it's a scary thought because, you know, we don't think of ourselves like that No. Until an until we get a stark contrast of someone that that we've known for years and didn't realize, you know, how old they were, and it's like, oh, shit. They're the same age I am.
[03:09:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[03:09:26] Rich Chelson:
The hell? What happened? You know? It's like it's like, why do I look that old? And, well, it's the stress we've put ourselves through in life.
[03:09:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[03:09:40] Rich Chelson:
You know? But it can be I wouldn't say totally change, but you can get it to where it's not as bad. You know? Or you don't think it's as bad. At least at least for me, I've noticed that since I've been down here and and, you know, with my overall, whatever you wanna call it, I I think I look a little younger than what I did even a year and a half ago. Because a year and a half ago, I looked like I was fucking damn near 70. I was a fat 70 year old man. And what? I was only 53. And now I look, yeah, late fifties.
[03:10:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[03:10:37] Rich Chelson:
You know? So Yeah.
[03:10:39] Duuude-Ron :
And how much weight have you lost in that time frame?
[03:10:43] Rich Chelson:
At least 30 or £40 that I know of.
[03:10:46] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. That makes a difference.
[03:10:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So so yeah. I mean, I mean, between losing weight, changing my mindset, changing changing everything, it's it's caused a lot of the anguish that I had, for lack of a better word. I can't it's it's late. My mind, yeah, is saying fuck you. But, you know, I've I've gotten rid of that, so I've noticed my features have softened a little. They're not as hardened. I don't know. I'm just talking up my ass now. I don't know what
[03:11:26] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm serious. My mind is boobard right now. Yeah. Well, it is after 10 o'clock. So guys, let's go ahead and we'll start wrapping her up. Guys, we run this show via the value for value model, which means we're not gonna ask we're not gonna run the the the, the commercials. We're not gonna ask you to go off and buy a mattress from Casper. We're not gonna ask you to do any of the crazy things like that. It's what do you think you're we did, and how do you how would you rate us as a as a episode? Were we good, bad, indifferent? What do you think that value was? Do you think it was worth, you know, a dollar, $5, $10, $20, whatever.
That is the the glory of value for value. You can give what you feel like you're able to, to give. And if you are, things are going kind of tight, granted the economy is fixed to be turning around and things are gonna be, you know, a lot better. We're gonna, we're gonna have a, have a, a lower sense of of prices, though, you know, we gotta get deflation in in in effect before we can, really start celebrating. But it's, you know, if you feel like you can't afford to throw, you know, fiat currency over to us, you could also be able to throw over, just some of your time or some of your talent. Maybe you wanna take time to fill out our our chapter art and and set up chapters for us. You're able to do that. You just let us know what you wanna do, and we'll give you opportunity if you wanna be able to to take the, or to design, the the the cover art and the chapter art for us. Hey, man. We got we we'd love to have that, have that help too.
We get we have a lot of different things that, if you see, like, see something that could be, a spot that could be filled and you'd like to try to fill it, then reach out. Touch, touch base with either me. And my email is circlecast, [email protected], or you can get ahold of Rich over at rchelson, c h e l s o n, at g mail dot com also. And let us know, hey, man. I wanna wanna help you out in such such so and so. We'd love love to have you help, get to help out. We get your things set up so that you are able to do that. We, so it's not just a, just money. We're not asking for just money, but, you know, the money does help us. We're able to pay for the hosting fees and the other things that we use to be able to get this show up and moving, rolling, and and and all that. So you're able to help us to be able to help you have a good time, have plenty to listen to as we, as we gammer throughout the, throughout the week. So, guys, I wanna appreciate everything you've done. Appreciate, all that you've, all that you've seen, heard, and, and laughed at. And if there's anything that you found just absolutely hilarious, please share it out with your friends, share it out with your your family, and and all that. And, love to have, have us have you reach out to us, talk to us. So, anyhow, guys, thanks again for, for listening. Rich, what do you got to say for your closing shots?
[03:14:42] Rich Chelson:
No. Not too much. Just, you know, kinda what you said there. Just thank you for listening, and, yeah, share this out, You know, whether we made you happy, laugh, or, you know, pissed off or whatever, share it out. You know? Laugh at us. We don't care. It's not gonna hurt our feelings. We don't need a safe space. But, yeah. Thank you all for listening and downloading our episodes. It still it still gets me that, how many downloads we get for, each episode because this is not, episode 32. And, I mean, it's just unreal what what we've done just in a short amount of time. It's just I'm so thankful and everything. So, yeah, share this out and, you know, let us know what you think, whether it's good, better, or indifferent.
We don't care. Send as Brian said, send us an email, [email protected] atgmail.com for Brian. And, if if you wanna leave a message for the dude, just email one of us. We will make sure the dude gets it. We might even read your email on the air and answer it on the air. So that'll give you a reason to come back and have your friends, hell, grab your favorite beverage and tune in live. We're doing lives every week. So, you know, grab your favorite beverage, your friends, and yell at us, scream at us, or whatever. Send us emails. We don't care. Talk to us. We'll talk back. I promise you, we'll talk back. So, anyway, that's a lot of, you know. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah. Thank you guys again, and, y'all have a great week. And we won't be on next week because it's Thanksgiving.
So, we're gonna take that week off. So this episode will come out Monday. So the following Monday, we won't have an episode come out. So, but we will be back after that. Don't worry about that. Dude, what you got?
[03:16:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly, dude. What you got?
[03:16:57] Duuude-Ron :
You know, as always, it's a, wonderful time to be able to chitchat with these 2 grumpy old vets and, you know, have to see what they have to say to entertain all of us. But again, like Brian and Rich has said, you know, thank you very much for listening to us and, you know, enjoying what we may or may not say. Or, you know, you can laugh. You can cry. You can kiss $5 goodbye. You know? But let us know what you're thinking and, how we are, affecting you that you come back and listen to us every week. So definitely give us a holler or shout out and, let us know how we're doing.
And that's that's all I have. So alright, guys.
[03:17:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Well, guys, y'all have yourselves a good rest of the week. Guys, all of y'all listening, thanks again for listening, and, we will see y'all or talk to y'all here in a a couple weeks. So, guys, thanks again. Talk to y'all later. Till then. Bye.
[03:18:12] Duuude-Ron :
See you. Y'all have a good good thanksgiving. Alright? You too. Alright. You too. See y'all. Alright. Alright. Bye.
Introduction and Show Overview
Weekend Contest and Radio Communication
Cryptocurrency Discussion
Philosophical Thoughts on Time
Driving Adventures and Traffic Woes
Thanksgiving Plans and Weather Concerns
Military Stories and Aircraft Discussions
RC Planes and Hobbies
Politics and Daylight Savings Time
Advertising and Media Changes
Reflections on Aging and Pop Culture
Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement
