Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets, where we dive into a lively discussion filled with humor, social commentary, and a bit of personal banter. This week, Brian, Rich, and the Duuude gather to share their thoughts on living intentionally and how weekly conversations can help men become better. We kick off with some light-hearted banter about the struggles of getting out of bed and dealing with the mundane aspects of life, like house taxes and property assessments.

The conversation takes a humorous turn as the hosts discuss the peculiarities of cryogenics and the fear of freezing certain body parts. This leads to a broader discussion about the challenges of finding firewood and the logistics of moving to different parts of the country, with a special focus on Pottsville and Opelousas.

As the episode progresses, the hosts delve into a more serious topic: the mysterious drones reportedly flying over New Jersey. They explore various conspiracy theories, the role of the media, and the potential implications of a new bill that could affect drone usage in the United States. The discussion highlights the complexities of modern technology and privacy concerns.

The episode wraps up with reflections on the influence of social media, the impact of corporate greed, and the importance of staying informed in today's fast-paced world. The hosts encourage listeners to think critically about the information they consume and to engage in meaningful conversations with others.

Join us for this engaging episode as we navigate through humor, conspiracy theories, and thoughtful discussions on life and society.

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Current Drone Tracking-- https://whyy.org/articles/federal-officials-track-disable-drones-authority-to-expire-budget-battle/amp/

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian,   Rich, and the   duuude. Recording in progress.  

[00:00:39] Rich Chelson:

Let's let  

[00:00:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Ron know.   What's up, dude? Not much, my man. What are you up to?  

[00:00:49] Duuude-Ron :

Well, at least my body allowed me to get up in bed before it said fuck you this morning.  

[00:00:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Got to the bathroom, then it was like, fuck you.  

[00:00:59] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. I just sat up in bed. I didn't even get out of bed. Oh, hell. I sat up, was sitting on the side and my body was like, yeah, bitch, you're mine. We ain't doing this today.   Exactly. That's exactly what and   I I I listened.   I tell you, I didn't,   you know? I mean, good God, man.   Yeah. I fig I figured it. I figured after yesterday, I was   I was done for for today at least.   Yeah.   I mean, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how things go tomorrow, but   right now it still ain't looking good.  

[00:01:39] Bryan Goodwin:

It's saying no   whole   way, Jose.  

[00:01:45] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   So how about you? What you up to? Oh, not much. Just  

[00:01:52] Bryan Goodwin:

stopped over here and Bowie for the night.   So  

[00:01:57] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Yeah. No. I, I,   yeah, I just,   there was things that,   I   I probably could have done, but yeah. No.   No?  

[00:02:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Not gonna do it.  

[00:02:18] Duuude-Ron :

No. You're right.  

[00:02:20] Rich Chelson:

I'm not You gotta be pregnant this   juncture.  

[00:02:30] Duuude-Ron :

But well, well, at least I found out a little more about the house tax situation   and Oh, did you? Good. Yeah. I mean,   yeah, I've gotta pay it, but it's it's,   paid through my,  

[00:02:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Through your through your throw in your   Yeah. Kinda like what I was saying yes last night. Yeah. Yeah. So  

[00:02:54] Duuude-Ron :

because,   I was gonna go down to the courthouse today, but, again, like I said,   I did not make it down to the Jeep.  

[00:03:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, like and like I said, that mean what that means is next year, your your,   house payment   is gonna go up.  

[00:03:15] Duuude-Ron :

No. It won't.  

[00:03:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah. Actually, it will because you're going to be overdrawn in your escrow.  

[00:03:24] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[00:03:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   They're taking it out now,   which means your escrow has only got 4 months worth of payments in it. No. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. They took  

[00:03:34] Duuude-Ron :

they took they, they prorated the taxes,   okay, from January to August   or, yeah, or July or whatnot,   and and the seller paid those out of their money.   Oh, okay. That got put into my escrow. So, no, I'm not losing any money. In fact, next year,   well, on January 2nd, when I do go up and see these girls   in Mississippi,   they have the Homestead Act.   And since   I'm a   a   a a TDIU,   I can file for the homestead exemption   and not pay any property taxes.  

[00:04:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, there you go. So  

[00:04:19] Duuude-Ron :

so, basically, what I'm gonna do   is   that money that that I will just pay every month,   at the end of next year, I'm just gonna tell the   the loan company or whoever they're fucking called.   I'm gonna say take that money and put it on the principal.   So  

[00:04:47] Bryan Goodwin:

If you're able to.  

[00:04:50] Duuude-Ron :

I should be able to. I've been told I can.   Because they said they said   because   because the the, insurance   comes out to   what?   Hang on a second.   Figure this up.   Yeah. The insurance   comes up to $341.66   Right. A month. Okay?   The property taxes comes up to about a $100 a month,   little over, give or take. Right.  

[00:05:32] Bryan Goodwin:

So   At the moment, until the tax successor comes by and says, oh, hey. By the way, you know, that that house's property was was assessed at,   at, at this level   because of,   because they'd only allowed to raise their their taxes so many percent   until they until it's sold. And so all of a sudden, oh, hey. Look. We were that's that amount you're paying was for, back when it was only we were assessing it for $60,000,   but you sold it for a 100 and something. So yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're gonna need to add a little bit more to it. So K. Okay. Hold on, Brian.  

[00:06:09] Duuude-Ron :

You did hear what I was saying  

[00:06:12] Bryan Goodwin:

on Tuesday. I I did. I heard you say about the, the TDIU and and not, hopefully, not getting,   getting anything added on. So  

[00:06:21] Duuude-Ron :

No. Not added on. Removed. I won't Or or removed. Yeah. But I I won't pay any taxes no matter how high it goes.  

[00:06:31] Rich Chelson:

Well, like the state of like the state of Texas, if you're a 100%   disabled,   you take that,   you know, statement down to the tax assessor,   and you no longer pay any property tax   whatsoever,   period.   And I can understand what what you're saying with the homestead. I don't know what   Mississippi   has to do as far as the 100%.  

[00:06:58] Duuude-Ron :

The exact same thing as Texas.  

[00:07:01] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So then they won't even be drawing once that is filed,   if you keep the same   house payment or the same payment that you're paying right now, yeah, you will be paying down   more on the principal   every month.  

[00:07:19] Duuude-Ron :

That's what I'm saying.  

[00:07:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:07:21] Duuude-Ron :

This is what this is this is a benefit here in the state of Mississippi.   This is what I'm saying.   So whether they raised,   the taxes on the house or not, it it   it won't affect me.  

[00:07:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And if you maintain with whatever your payment is   with the current taxes, if you just maintain that house payment,   then, yeah, instead of paying taxes, you'll be paying towards   your principal   every month.  

[00:07:52] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.  

[00:07:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:07:54] Duuude-Ron :

It's what I plan to do because   an extra   $100 a month,   I think one of the things I said would knock off, like, 7 years.  

[00:08:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Pretty close to it.  

[00:08:08] Duuude-Ron :

Something like that. 6 years, 5 years. I don't fucking know, but   it'll it'll knock my house note off closer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because all of that extra  

[00:08:20] Rich Chelson:

will be going strictly to or should be   going strictly   to principal.  

[00:08:26] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I'll tell them to.   I'll be like, no. Yeah. It's my money. Put it towards the principal.  

[00:08:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Interest.   Or   or if you lower   get your house payment lowered, you just fucking send in that extra $100   a month,   you know, towards principal. Yeah. Well, I don't know how they're gonna work it out, but I'm sure that, you know, the first option is what they're   probably gonna happen.  

[00:08:53] Duuude-Ron :

I would just leave the payment the same. I'd tell them leave the payment the same since I'm used to it because   because a $100   doesn't mean nothing   nowadays. So   just leave the payment the same and the extra put towards the principal.   Yep. Yeah.  

[00:09:12] Rich Chelson:

So Absolutely.  

[00:09:16] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, that's the plan.  

[00:09:20] Rich Chelson:

So now you said today that you when you woke up, you were a pussy   and didn't do anything   because   your mangina hurt. Is that what you're trying to say? I got into the I got into the middle of the conversation. So, you know, I just wanted to add my   my 3¢ because taxes had gone up. You know? So it's no longer 2¢. I wanted to add 3¢ because, you know  

[00:09:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, because taxes?  

[00:09:49] Rich Chelson:

Or inflation.   You know? 2¢ is not what 2¢ used to be. You know? You now you have to add 3 or 4¢   to get the 2 to to get the same 2¢ worth   of somebody's opinion.   And then again, you could just tell me you don't give a shit about my opinion, and I tell you kiss my ass, and you're gonna get it anyway.   So   we just have that love like that.  

[00:10:13] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Absolutely.   Nothing but love, man. Nothing  

[00:10:17] Rich Chelson:

but nothing but fucking love.  

[00:10:20] Duuude-Ron :

I'm telling you.   Yeah. No. Actually, yeah, basically, I   yes. I was telling Brian that I got to sit up in bed,   and my body was like, yeah. Fuck you, dude. You, like, ruined me yesterday, and I was like, yeah. Okay. I'm gonna argue.   So, yeah, I didn't do shit today.  

[00:10:45] Rich Chelson:

Hey, dude. You whine. Come yeah. You did. You whine, complained,   you bitch because   you're in pain and fucking couldn't do anything.   You just didn't say it to, you know,   you just didn't call anybody and, you know, relay that information at the time.  

[00:11:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:11:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. Yeah. I know. We all fucking getting old.  

[00:11:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I just, I just, I just sucked down more headache butters.  

[00:11:15] Rich Chelson:

But see what that is totally irrelevant   because the pain ain't in your head. It's in your back or in your shoulders. What the fuck is headache medicine gonna fucking do for you?  

[00:11:25] Duuude-Ron :

It's aspirin, dude. It's it's it's supposed to it's supposed to relieve pain in your body. It's just called a headache powder.  

[00:11:35] Rich Chelson:

I was just seeing what you were gonna say.   I just all I wanted to do was hear your response.   That's it.   Could've just said, you know what?   The headache is on the fucking other end of the line in Texas.   That's why I'm taking fucking headache powder.  

[00:11:55] Duuude-Ron :

You know? You know? I'm gonna use that one these days  

[00:11:59] Rich Chelson:

if I could remember it because I like to You know what? Just like me, you won't remember this statement   at the end of this   podcast,   let alone tomorrow,   until you   relisten to it.  

[00:12:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're probably right. I'm not gonna argue with you, dude.   You're probably right.  

[00:12:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah?   Sometimes I'm right.   Most of the time, it's just blowing out hot air.  

[00:12:31] Duuude-Ron :

I have a question.   About an hour ago, I was sitting outside,   smoking a cigarette   and, I had a thought pop into my head.   And Oh, hell.   Yeah. It was yeah. It was it was weird. Made me chuckle,   but, but,   but I wanted to get, I have,   have either one of you tried any of that cryogenics   freezing your body shit?  

[00:13:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, you're talking about that for for pain relief?  

[00:13:08] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know what they use it for. I just know I just know people go into these tubes and, like, get pros   and everything.  

[00:13:16] Bryan Goodwin:

So Well, they're not the human popsicle things, but if you're the ones I'm thinking of. But, yeah, there's these all these these   cold,   these cryogenic rooms   that they have you go into for, like, 5, 10 minutes. I would assume I've not ever actually been in one. But you go into there, and what it does is it   allows for your body to start trying to   heal itself a little bit better.   Because you're putting it in from one one extreme to the other. I'm not exactly sure what   that,  

[00:13:51] Rich Chelson:

cryotherapy, I think, is what it's called.   Yeah. It is.  

[00:13:56] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well, well,   the reason I was asking is is is because while I was sitting there thinking of it, I think, you know, I was thinking, like, it was one of them. I guess she stepped off in this little tube or something. They closed that door and and they prepped you. You know? No. No. No. No. Not like how they did, what, how people collect to claim that, like Walt Disney's been frozen or something. No, not that.   No. Doesn't work like that. Well, I, I was just wondering and, and, and you, you know, I was sitting there thinking about it. It's like, I don't know if I could do that because   I'd be worried about my pecker freezing.  



[00:14:39] Rich Chelson:

You know? Why would you even have to worry about it? I'll get I'll give you the answer to your question here in just a minute. However, I just wanna make the statement   that,   why would you even worry about your PECKER when it's not longer than your attention span?   And we already know how long your attention span is. So, why would you even have to worry about that aspect?  

[00:15:03] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you never know. I might use it one of these years.   You know? And, I mean, I I want it there when I'm ready for it.   But but I'm I'm afraid I'm a I I I don't know why I don't know why I thought this up, man. This here this here is about an hour ago. I'm sitting on front porch, a little chili outside.   It's probably what made me think of it, but I'm sitting there. It's like,   that would suck if I walked in there,   got all froze and all like that, and then stepped out and, like, smacked my pecker and it shattered into a 1000000 pieces.  

[00:15:38] Rich Chelson:

I'd be upset. Well, now if you now if you dipped it in fucking   liquid nitrogen,   that   no. Yeah. That would probably happen because   a banana,   when you dip it into liquid nitrogen, turn can turn into a hammer.   A rose, on the other hand,   you just touch it, and it will just   break into a 1000000 pieces.  

[00:16:03] Bryan Goodwin:

It'll just it'll just shatter. To my mind is the quote from Real Genius.   Can you handle a 4 inch,   spike through a through a 2 by 4 with using only a penis?   No.   A girl's gotta have her standards.  

[00:16:20] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   But no, I just,   for some reason, it just fucking popped into my head. So I I just kinda   and it's like it's I mean, again, I started checking. I'm just like, I've gotta figure this out.  

[00:16:37] Rich Chelson:

Well, would you like to know the true,   not a bullshit,   but a true answer to that statement?  

[00:16:45] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah.  

[00:16:47] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   What they do   because we deliver it.   Okay. Med medical nitrogen to these places.   What they do is   they use   the liquid nitrogen,   and they they centralize it through   down to a point. Now they're gonna   protect your skin. They have, you know   I haven't ever seen it, but it's like, you know, towels   that   restrict the liquid to getting to your skin.   Okay?   So it doesn't freeze your skin. But what it does is because the liquid is so cold,   is basically   like   the same aspect for Novocaine  

[00:17:43] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:17:45] Rich Chelson:

Is is how it is used, and it is just rubbed over   what area   is giving you pain,   and it basically   gets the   the   area   cold.   It kinda deadens the nerves, but it also, you know, helps the   the muscles and so on like that,   release the tension,   basically.  

[00:18:12] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:18:13] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So that's what   they use that's how they use with the liquid nitrogen.  

[00:18:21] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Alright. I don't I don't feel so bad.   Yeah.   Yeah. I I'm I'm not as scared.   I'd still be scared a little bit,  

[00:18:30] Rich Chelson:

but Yeah. The yeah. The liquid nitrogen  

[00:18:35] Bryan Goodwin:

will never touch your skin. It's just because because there's a thing called the Linden Frost effect. I think it's called Linden Frost   effect.   It's kind of the same effect of when you have a skillet that's real hot, you take some water, you drop it on there, and it just kinda glides and stuff over the surface.   Yeah. That's the Linden Frost effect. There's a layer of vapor that protects your skin   from the, from the liquid nitrogen. You can actually stick your hand in a deal of the liquid nitrogen   and your hand won't actually freeze.   You can stick it in there and hold it for a little while, and it's they,   your skin is hot enough that it flash,   vapors the   the the liquid nitrogen that talk it take, touches   it, so it you actually are never actually in contact with liquid nitrogen.  



[00:19:27] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I ain't gonna dry it either way.  

[00:19:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, come on. No. What's up? No. Cheap whiz, weenie.  

[00:19:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. I'm   Yeah. I'm afraid.   No. I'm not gonna do it. I I scared. I scared.   Right. I scared.   But, yeah, I don't know. I just I just that freaking idea popped into my head because it well, well, right now, it's chilly, and it's supposed it's   next couple days,   it's supposed to get chillier, but,   I mean, not as cold as   maybe you up in Oklahoma,   but   for now Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:20:05] Bryan Goodwin:

It gets down to   low thirties so far,   thankfully.  

[00:20:13] Duuude-Ron :

No.   Uh-uh.  

[00:20:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. No. It can because it can get colder.   I have been struggling trying to find freaking firewood around. So, apparently, everybody who used to do firewood has said, oh, yeah. I'm not gonna do firewood anymore. It's like   and I find people who's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. I got plenty of firewood. Alright.   Can you bring it over here? Oh, I don't deliver. You're gonna have to come over here and pick it up.   Don't have a fucking pickup.  

[00:20:42] Duuude-Ron :

You ain't   you ain't got my fucking across the town?  

[00:20:46] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't have a pickup.  

[00:20:48] Rich Chelson:

I know you don't have a pickup, but you could always well,   keep   1, rent 1.  

[00:20:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Or 2 No. That that I mean, renting 1 the closest place we could rent 1 is, you know, like, Luvs or or,   Home Depot. And Home Depot is both of those are at least a at least an hour and a half, 2 hours away.  

[00:21:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But you don't have anybody that you know that has a pickup  

[00:21:16] Bryan Goodwin:

or, you know, something within that realm? Doesn't work in the oil field and is, is gone perpetually.   Oh, okay.   So,   yeah, I mean, I've got a Okay. Friend a friend of mine who   I mean, if I could ever catch him home, but he and he's the he works over for, Gordon Nitrogen. So, I mean,   he's home once,   one week every,   every 3 weeks.   It's just What? When does his time off cycle around? Because seems like a lot of times he's   he's there on the weekend, and I just I I realized it just right before he's taken off. So  

[00:21:56] Duuude-Ron :

well, leave a note on it. Well, here you go, dude. Call me.  

[00:22:00] Rich Chelson:

Set yourself an alarm   to say, hey.   You know, at x   Saturday morning at 10 o'clock, your alarm goes off. It's like, why did I set this alarm? Oh, yeah. I need to ask what's his name to,   you know, borrow his truck. Or   I know that you're having   mechanical issues at one time with your car.   Does your car have a   trailer hitch?  

[00:22:28] Bryan Goodwin:

No.   No? Okay. No. No. It's, it's just a little Mazda CX 9, so it's it doesn't have any towing power.  

[00:22:37] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[00:22:41] Duuude-Ron :

I bet it does, but it has more than my Jeep does.  

[00:22:46] Bryan Goodwin:

I wouldn't wanna put too much past it, especially within the condition that motors   seems to be in.  

[00:22:51] Rich Chelson:

Right. Well, how far away is the wood?  

[00:22:56] Bryan Goodwin:

It depends on which one I go. It could be anywhere from Elk City all the way over to,   all the way over to Thomas, which is about, about an hour away.  

[00:23:06] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I   know you can make it from,   Elk City, but believe it or not, dude,   Brian, your your car,   yeah, really tows more than mine Jeep. £35100.   It'll tow.  

[00:23:24] Rich Chelson:

Now here's another   off the cuff question   for you.   How much wood are you trying to acquire?  

[00:23:32] Bryan Goodwin:

A rig.  

[00:23:35] Rich Chelson:

That's what? A 6 by 6 by  

[00:23:38] Bryan Goodwin:

No. It's, it's,   it's a,   it's half a quart.  

[00:23:45] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   So it's one of those If you put the seats down,   and I don't know how your car is configured, couldn't you put it in the trunk or in your back seat? It's got a hatch, but at the same time. No. But, but at the same time, I mean,  

[00:23:59] Bryan Goodwin:

that's a big   ass pain in the ass.  

[00:24:04] Rich Chelson:

But well, let's see. You have either this pain in the ass or you have that pain in the ass. Pick a pain in the ass. Pain in the ass pain  

[00:24:13] Bryan Goodwin:

in the ass is actually,   more feasible. So  

[00:24:19] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So we'll we'll   take the most feasible pain in the ass   and go get yourself some damn wood.  

[00:24:28] Bryan Goodwin:

That's what I'm trying to do.   Well, okay.   Okay.  

[00:24:34] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I would give you the wood that I have here at the house, but it wouldn't last very long.  

[00:24:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. You can drive down here in Mississippi. I got trees that are just dropping limbs like crazy.   You you can come pick them all up, take them with you.  

[00:24:53] Rich Chelson:

You know? Then that goes back to that and that would go to more of a   higher feasible   aspect.   Yeah.   Whichever you pick, Brian. You know what? Here's   now   here's a thought.   I know it's a fucking   maybe a stupid thought.   You're you're running a flatbed. Right?  

[00:25:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   There you go, baby. Swing down. Your boss allow  

[00:25:26] Rich Chelson:

you would your boss allow you to do that?  

[00:25:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, that that I'm not sure.   I'd have to  

[00:25:35] Rich Chelson:

I know it's a it's a commercial liability   because trying to strap down some wood on a flatbed at yeah.   And then if you get pulled over, who fucking knows?   Right. Well, when we So Oh, and does your boss have a truck? House.  

[00:25:55] Bryan Goodwin:

I'll I'll find something. I'll I'll just   just a   it's just at the moment, I want some I would rather have someone bring it over to me.   It's just easier that way.   Hell, I'll pay an extra, you know, $30 in in fee to   have it brought over to me.  

[00:26:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And, you know, that's that's the whole issue. Who's gonna,   you know,   travel for, you know, $30?   Who knows?  

[00:26:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That that's the issue.   Yeah. I I I mean, like, people over in Thomas or even, you know, like, an hour and a half that way, they're like, oh, yeah. Yeah. We deliver. It's gonna be an extra $75   trip there. It's like,   fuck that.  

[00:26:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Alright.   Well, see, here's and here is your ultimate fucking problem.   You live so fucking far in the goddamn sticks   or,   you know, out in the prairies,   however you want to,   boggle your mind with that statement.  

[00:27:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Relocate.   Well, I'm trying.  

[00:27:12] Rich Chelson:

Are you?  

[00:27:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. I would Yeah. Gotta   gotta first,   get a few extra things paid off so that I can we can actually take this money and   bebop on down   south for the missus   because she doesn't wanna go north.   Well, does anybody wanna find the money going north? I'd love to do that. I'd love to go north and west.  

[00:27:40] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Northwest   where?  

[00:27:43] Duuude-Ron :

America   in the rain.  

[00:27:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I would you know, I wouldn't mind being on the flat lands of Colorado.  

[00:27:53] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, that gets major fucking cold.  

[00:27:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, it's not that fucking cold.  

[00:27:58] Duuude-Ron :

Fuck if it don't, dude. I used to live out there.   Dude,   like, we're talking 20, 30 fucking below, man.  

[00:28:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I Sometimes. Yeah.  

[00:28:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Just about every fucking year,   and it's not for a day or 2. It's not every day, though.   It'll be for a couple of weeks. I'm playing there right now.   Uh-uh. No house.   Damn.   No.  

[00:28:30] Bryan Goodwin:

That's no. That's crazy, dude. Nah. Wife wants to be go down into the kind of the hill country   area around Pottsville, you know, Stephenville or Steve anywhere between Stephenville and Mano.   That's this whole day. Mano?   Yeah. Mano. Fucking  

[00:28:48] Rich Chelson:

oh, Mano or Mano?   Lano,  

[00:28:53] Bryan Goodwin:

l l a n o. Lano as in short for Lano. Westacado.   Lano.   But Lano.  

[00:29:01] Rich Chelson:

Llan  

[00:29:02] Bryan Goodwin:

o. Lan o. Yeah. It's Lano.  

[00:29:05] Rich Chelson:

It's Lan o. Lan o. You know what? Lando Calrissian? Land o?  

[00:29:11] Duuude-Ron :

No. Lan o.  

[00:29:13] Bryan Goodwin:

It's Lon o. I've always everyone I've ever been around has always called it Lon o.  

[00:29:18] Rich Chelson:

Everybody I know says it's Lano.  

[00:29:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's also like that b e r n e town   or b u r n e. No. B o e r n e. Oh, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Barney? Instead of instead of Barney, it's Barney.  

[00:29:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Barney. Yeah. Barney, Texas.   Yeah. I know that town.  

[00:29:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I do too. It's state town.   Yeah.  

[00:29:47] Duuude-Ron :

I just it's just it's just cool sounding name, I think.  

[00:29:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, it is. It is. It's But as you could tell, it's our bitch to try to spell.  

[00:29:57] Duuude-Ron :

Well, at first, maybe.   Yeah. No. That's yeah. I like I like going through that little town.  

[00:30:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I like Where the hell where the hell is Pottsville at?  

[00:30:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Over by Hamilton. Yeah. It's, 13 miles, west of Hamilton.  

[00:30:16] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Never been there, but I drive through Hamilton once a week. Yeah. I was gonna say once a week. Yeah. When you're when you're heading west out of Hamilton  

[00:30:27] Bryan Goodwin:

and you take that there's that, there's a little intersection where the road kinda branches   off south,   south and west.  

[00:30:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Right at the north or whatever.  

[00:30:39] Bryan Goodwin:

At the west, at the west side of, of, of Hamilton. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. If you if you made that left hit branched off on the left right there,   just stayed on that road. You'd run right through, through right through Pottsville.   It'd take you all the way over into,   over into Comanche.   So  

[00:30:58] Duuude-Ron :

And there's nothing in Pottsville. Right?  

[00:31:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. There's   about 15 houses.  

[00:31:08] Duuude-Ron :

There's nothing in Pottsville. Volunteer fire department.   Yeah. It is. It is an un unincorporated  

[00:31:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It is very unincorporated.   Business.   It was corp incorporated there for a little while, but then it, hell, it actually used to even have a town square at one time.  

[00:31:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That was back in, what, 18/20?   19 twenties. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, now okay. I was About a 100 years ago.  

[00:31:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Not 200. Good god, man.   Well, yeah. That's about the well, see, no. It'd been about the 1900,   yeah, back when,   captain John Potts,   my   5, 6th   generation,   7th generation,   grandfather,   that's about the time that he moved into,   moved to,   to Pottsville.   So   or moved to the land that would become   Pottsville   because he bought the land there for $300   worth of gold.   Wow.   See,   I was looking at, see. I think we've got  

[00:32:24] Rich Chelson:

Now if you add an an e r   to the other side of the t in Pottsville,   you could always be hanging out in, it's a wonderful life in Pottersville.  

[00:32:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Are you walking for Potter now?   Love that movie. It's a great movie.  

[00:32:45] Duuude-Ron :

So do I. Yeah. There is nothing in Pottsville.  

[00:32:49] Bryan Goodwin:

No. There's not. Well, like I said, actually, there is,   and they're all related. So you don't wanna date anybody in Pottsville.  

[00:33:01] Rich Chelson:

Well, I don't think you're worried about that. Anybody actually,  

[00:33:04] Bryan Goodwin:

really, I would say, datable   in Pottsville because they are the the median   or the average age there   is, like,   78.  

[00:33:17] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So okay. Okay, Brian. Let me ask you this. And and I'm   I'm actually being serious. Okay?   What why   why do you wanna move to Pottsville? What   what is But Pottsville is Pottsville. Pottsville  

[00:33:34] Bryan Goodwin:

is my paradise.   I like the land there. I like the, I like the area.   It's,   it it's pretty. Now, granted,   I like going there to visit.   If I wanted to actually move someplace,   the more I go traveling around, like, East Texas,   the more I'm kinda liking it. I kinda dig east Texas,   western Louisiana.   Actually, I was I I the if there's any place if I could choose where I could park myself at,   and I had to take an account for Jana,   it would be in,   in Opelousas,   Louisiana.   Right. And I'm sure I did. I slaughtered the word there, but anyhow, that's close that's close as I've gotten to hitting my tongue to bend around the word of Opelasas.  

[00:34:32] Duuude-Ron :

That sounds about right. So  

[00:34:36] Bryan Goodwin:

And that's just just just because, one,   that's considered the birthplace of sciatico music. I just love swamp music. It's just I I you can't help but smile and laugh and have a good time when you're hearing it going off.  

[00:34:49] Duuude-Ron :

Right? Is  

[00:34:51] Rich Chelson:

is that   way on the left side of Cajun music?  

[00:34:56] Bryan Goodwin:

That well, you   may call it Cajun music. It's the, you know,   well, you hear it, on Saturday night.   There there's a bit of Zydeco in the it's Saturday night. Moon is out. It's time for us to go out, twist, and shout.   You know, that Or is it Mary Chipps concert is.  

[00:35:16] Rich Chelson:

Or is it in bread Cajun music?  

[00:35:18] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I don't think it's, I don't think it has anything to do with bread at all. I think it's all just music. Might have a little bit of okra.   But  

[00:35:28] Rich Chelson:

Okra? What the fuck is okra other than what I eat at,   when I go, what the fuck is that restaurant that has the fucking all the,   rocking chairs out front?  

[00:35:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:35:43] Rich Chelson:

So   going all grotto is what you eat.  

[00:35:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:35:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. The the Caucasian barrel?  

[00:35:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. There you go.   Now, Brian. The old the old folks barrel.   Yeah.   Go ahead,   Rich.   Brian,  

[00:36:04] Duuude-Ron :

if you move to,   Opelikaisis  

[00:36:08] Bryan Goodwin:

or yeah. However you say that. See? See? It's not that hard. It's not that easy.  

[00:36:13] Duuude-Ron :

You'd be you'd be right outside of Baton Rouge.  

[00:36:16] Bryan Goodwin:

And Yeah. Well, you're you're close you're you're 2 about 2 hours away from New Orleans, about 2 hours away from,   Baton Rouge. You're just right outside of Uh-oh. At Toaches.   Yeah. So  

[00:36:29] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Opelousas,   I'm looking at it on the map. You're not 2 hours from Baton Rouge. You're probably   45 minutes tops.   It is seriously right outside of Baton Rouge.   It's on, Interstate 49   and, Highway 190.  

[00:36:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[00:36:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And   yeah. You're like, yeah, maybe maybe 45 minutes from Baton Rouge,   and you'd be probably another   15 minutes from,   Shelley and Jimmy   because they live just on the other side of   Baton Rouge. Yeah. Baton Rouge.   And then, of course, me, you'd be 2 hours,   probably about 3 hours from me.   So you see, dude, you would have to move over this way.   And, yeah, we could have all shit. We could have all kinds of fun.  

[00:37:34] Rich Chelson:

See.  

[00:37:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, get done. Back to bed.   1991.   Where was that?   Oops.   Sorry. I'm still actually looking up the whole,   John Stevens,   pots.   I'm still stuck on that thing. So   because his dad was Amos pots.   See here.   He was born in 18/12, brother, Tennessee.   His father, Amos, was 18. When yeah. He had one son with Francis b   Davis and   died at July 7,   1901 in Pottsville, Texas having lived, 89 years.   So   Archibald R was born   in February 3rd.   Half brother John was born 18/18.   Half brother, half sister. He's got a lot of half sisters   or a lot of half half   lot of half kids there running around. I don't know which side it is, but they so he had, like, a half sister, Mark   or or not Mark. Martha,   Matilda.  

There's Albert,   William Harrison.  

[00:39:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it says opalesis   is known,   what what it means in English is blackleg.   What is that? It says   it's   this is based on the legend that the,   Opelesys,   a native American tribe that lived in the area,   painted their legs black to contrast with their light skin.   Some say that the legs were darkened by the black water of the bayous where the tribes   wash themselves.   So yeah. And,   Opelikais   is   the 3rd oldest   city in the state.  

[00:39:42] Bryan Goodwin:

I knew it was old. It's Yeah. It's it's The only issue I have moving to Louisiana just because I have been   to   a few different portions of, of, Shreveport   is   people just, I don't know if it's just the, if it's the government   just doesn't know how to take care of things or what, but it's just   that   everything looks old. And I don't mean like,   like, oh, it's an old architecture style. It looks worn down, tired, old type of old.   Like, oh, well, we haven't decided. We we laid it out. You know, we we made the curbs and yeah. And and once we got done, we we, you know, we haven't looked at them since. We hadn't put a second thought to them in the past 120 years of of having a curb on the on the side of the road.  

[00:40:35] Duuude-Ron :

Well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.   I mean, come on, Brian.   They like you see, that's the thing. Louisiana, Mississippi,   especially   well,   well, I don't know. Biloxi and Gulfport and Ocean Springs, they all want   pretty, pretty stuff. But   everyone else, they're just like, you know what? It ain't broke. We good.   Let's   just let's just eat gumbo and have fun.  

[00:41:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly.  

[00:41:03] Duuude-Ron :

You know? And see, that's the thing, man.   You'd be right there at at   freaking   everything.  

[00:41:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh my Oh, no. I agree. I I think it'd be an absolute blast to go hang out there because they have a Zydeco festival there   every year. So go off and just listen to, you know   I know got we got Pepper in my shoe and,   and,   Zydeco Pompom and and, you know, all these other great songs that you that well, I I personally have. I don't know if you hear, but, you know, I do.   Because, you know, hell, sciatico music is fun.   I've even learned be willing to learn how to jitterbug for to listen to some of that. So  

[00:41:49] Duuude-Ron :

I ain't I   I ain't doing the jitterbug.  

[00:41:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Here here's the, this is the big thing I was actually looking for on the,   my,   on Steven Potts,   was actually his, his,   historical society   or committee, plaque   that's at the base of his, of of his of his grave. It says born in Bradley, Tennessee, County, Tennessee, married to Melinda Davis, who is the cousin of Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States of America, lived in Carthage, Missouri,   where he was justice of the peace and then sheriff from 1850 to 1852.   And   rumor has it, I'd have to look it up, my great aunt, Dorothy, she had all this information, says that A. E. I. Was actually run out of town in 1852.   So and the confederate soldier during the civil war.  

Moving to Texas oh, I was wrong. He paid $500   in gold for Hamilton County sheep range in 1872,   later had more land,   Mooreland, an ardent baptist, a Mason donor, and,   a Mason donor of the cemetery side. He was honored in the naming of Possibility in 1878.   So  

[00:43:03] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:43:05] Bryan Goodwin:

So Yeah.   There's the there's the that mystery.   So, but anyhow, back to back to Opelousas.   But, yeah, it's just Alright. It it's just something something   neat, fun.   You know? It doesn't look like we're too into too much of the swampy area. So, I mean, you may still wind up with the occasional alligator walking across your your,   your your driveway, but you're not gonna have alligators all the damn time running in your driveway. So   Right. You know? Right. Not gonna have them, trying to open up the front door or anything like to do in Louisiana or, in in, in Florida.   So, you know, it's just   but my wife is, like, going,   I I see   you in the house in the wintertime. You're moving too much. You start sweating,   which is true. I'm just, you know, I'm a fat man, so I   start sweating if I get, start burning too much energy.  

So,  

[00:44:05] Duuude-Ron :

oh, down here, down here in the summertime.  

[00:44:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. 200% humidity, which is   a grateful thing.  

[00:44:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You would sit and just sweat.   Oh, yeah. On the front porch. I I do.   I walk outside to smoke cigarette,   like, like, this summer.  

[00:44:22] Bryan Goodwin:

It was, like, in August. Right? I was like, whew. I feel like I'm in Moyers.  

[00:44:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. Oh, no. Moyers was nice, dude.   Moyers was yeah. That was a humidity. I mean, I was   I freaking walked out on the porch, sat down, hadn't even lit a cigarette yet, and my shirt is soaked with sweat. Oh, yeah. No, I believe it.  

[00:44:46] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, I was, we were down in,   when I worked for Sandstone,   we had to go down to new Iberia.   Right.   Which is kind of how I heard about I drove past Opel the deal for Opelousas as I'm so and I just yeah. That name alone just caught my caught my attention. I was like, how the hell do you say Opelousas   or Opelousas or however you say it? But, yeah, we went down to New Iberia and we were a little bitty old   flipping truck stock. And I mean, little bitty. This thing held   all of our trucks,   and we only had, like, 3 more,   3 more parking spots left. So all the other truckers were none too happy that we were all part taking up these spots. And granted, we sat stayed there for damn near a freaking month waiting for them to say, alright. We're ready for the,   ready for the sand.  

And so thankfully, they   we were getting, get standby time the whole time we were there, so we got paid decently just to sit on our ass.   But,   but yeah. Yeah. You would   You sat   damn truck ran 24 hours a day, 7 days a week with air conditioner on blast. And I mean, your your windows   at night would go ahead and just fog over and look like it was raining because, you know, the the humidity would collect.   And, your air conditioner sat there,   the drip from the air conditioner looked like it was raining underneath the truck.   And so yeah. But anytime you hopped out, yep.  

My glasses would fuck over.   So and yeah. Yeah. It was it's a it's a humid son of a bitch there.   And I know down in down in,   in,   New Orleans,   I mean, they're down they're   down in in low areas and and and stuff. So there's a lot of times they actually don't have much of any type of wind.  

[00:46:45] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Well, I mean I mean, it depends if it comes off the gulf and   goes down in the   because,   because at my house, even though I've got trees and houses,   you know, between me and the gulf   Uh-huh.   I still get wind across and and most of the time it comes from the south.   Sometimes   it'll come from the west, but very and very rarely does it come from the north.   But,   yeah. Obelisas   was   was a town in 18/21.   So that town is 203   years old.   I I saw that and I'm like, well, it beat Pottsville.  

[00:47:30] Bryan Goodwin:

It beat Pottsville. Yeah.  

[00:47:34] Duuude-Ron :

No. It it no. No. It seems like a cool little town, man.  

[00:47:41] Bryan Goodwin:

So, but, yeah, that's anytime the wife's like, go once talks about   wanting to go, you know, wanting to move, it's like, well, we can go start looking at a little Opelika. She's like, honey, you would die for 1. It's like, well, I'm gonna die in pot in in Texas. And also, it's still I mean, granted,   Pottsville's   on the drier side because   where Pottsville is located is actually kind of the mingling of the prairie   with the with the the woodland area.  

[00:48:11] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:48:12] Bryan Goodwin:

So it's dry,   but it's not so dry that trees don't grow.   So that's why that's why you have so many damn oaks and stuff growing in that area because it's not as   the it they're a little more drought resistant   than what, like, pine tree and stuff are.  

[00:48:32] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[00:48:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Or at least at least East Texas pines are.  

[00:48:36] Duuude-Ron :

But but say the thing is,   the food would be better over an open license. The food Oh, wow. I agree. Yeah. I mean I mean, you couldn't yeah. I'm I mean, the food because out there in Pottsville, all you got are tacos  

[00:48:53] Bryan Goodwin:

or burrito? No. No. No. I'm Pottsville. You got whatever it is you go to. You have to go to another town to actually go buy through.  

[00:49:01] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Hamilton.  

[00:49:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. And that and, yeah, actually, you go to Steveville.   Okay. Well, why don't you That's that's the that's the close that's the closest Walmart you got, Steveville.   Okay. So you may go you may go up to,   may go up to Abilene or Brownwood. Brownwood's the one I'm thinking of. May go to, Brownwood,   you know, for the,   if you gotta do some you you know, that's the closest thing to a town, or you can drive,   over to,   well, you can drive over the Waco area. I mean, head over head,   about an hour and a half, hour   45 minutes,   over to, over to the Waco area.  

Yeah. Being Gatesville.  

[00:49:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But  

[00:49:52] Rich Chelson:

Or yonder down to, yeah, Gatesville. I was gonna say that. Yep. Yeah.  

[00:49:56] Bryan Goodwin:

They got a Walmart though in Gatesville. They do have a Walmart down in Gatesville. This is true.  

[00:50:02] Duuude-Ron :

But say that I say that's just, you know,  

[00:50:06] Bryan Goodwin:

driving that far to a Walmart. I, yeah, I did that and I don't like it. Right. Well, not, I'm not a big fan of it either because my ice cream had melt, but  

[00:50:16] Duuude-Ron :

That's for damn sure.  

[00:50:19] Bryan Goodwin:

But the other and, actually, me and the wife have been licking a a little bit down in that area.  

[00:50:26] Rich Chelson:

That's why you have a cooler  

[00:50:28] Bryan Goodwin:

for the ice cream. Yeah. You put get a cooler. You get some dry ice. You stick it in there. And then yeah. Yeah. Exactly.   But the problem that we run into is   goddamn.   We need to get these fucking Californians   out of this fucking state.   Because I'm looking we're looking around. We're finding   lots of land with a single wide   trailer house on the damn thing, and they're asking $100,000.  

[00:50:58] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[00:50:59] Bryan Goodwin:

It's like, fuck you.   Goddamn, we can't be going doing a $100,000   for a single one that's crumbling.   See, that's why you go to Louisiana because Well, I agree. You But at the same time, I gotta be I gotta start being kinda close because my mom is   is getting on in age.   So  

[00:51:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I mean, I can't I I won't I won't argue with that logic there.  

[00:51:31] Bryan Goodwin:

But I do. I I wonder I would I would love to live over in over in, like, east Texas.   Go hang out, you know,   not so much   down around, like, neck of nowhere or anything like that or Oregon.   But   Nacadocios?   Nac of nowhere, man. I gotta Yeah. I know, man. One of the   oh,   and, you know,   life coach school is starting to piss me off. But,   but anyhow, one of my co, one of my one of my, classmates   from, from life coach school, she's actually   from, the Nacogdoches area. She lives down around Houston area now. But   but, yeah, that's she's the one who always called it back of nowhere and just kinda stuck because it's like, yeah, it's just   a a lot of trees. You don't see much other than that. So Well, at least you see trees. Oh, yeah. No. You at least you get see, at least you know that you, when you get lost, you're you're lost for a reason. You get lost out in out in the high plains of the Texas Panhandle. That's because you're blind.  



[00:52:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Right.  

[00:52:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Because all you have to do, you wanna look for a place we'll look for civilization. We'll look for a tree.   That's a house.  

[00:52:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. I'll find it, Jerry. You found it. Tree. You gotta find a house.  

[00:52:50] Bryan Goodwin:

If it's a dead tree, there's no one living at the house. Gotta go to a tree, a live tree.  

[00:52:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's like that's like Nebraska   Out there in the country in Nebraska.  

[00:53:01] Bryan Goodwin:

They they allow trees in Nebraska, really?  

[00:53:04] Duuude-Ron :

There are   very few. It's like   special permit only. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. And and just about just about any time I found trees,   I found either a couple houses,   a big farm, or a small town. And then as soon as you got past that, it was Nothing's fine. Nothing.   Yeah.  

[00:53:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I lived there for fucking 18 years.  

[00:53:30] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, I did 3 I did 3 months there. That was fucking enough.  

[00:53:34] Rich Chelson:

I did 3 years. Well, yeah. Well Yeah. Well, now I was in Lincoln. So it was a metropolis.   You know, we had trees.   You know, we had bushes I was Kimballed across the street. Shit. But as soon I tell you what.   You as soon as you get outside the fucking city limits,   oh, yeah. It's nothing but fucking   corn, corn.   And then you might see some more corn.   And   I think it was barley or fucking   but I don't  

[00:54:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Winter wheat, normally.  

[00:54:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Winter wheat. All the great winter wheat.   Oh, yeah. So it is like fucking   boring.   Yeah. To drive. Oh my god.   Oh my god. You might as well just set the cruise control on, put the seat belt around the steering wheel,   climb into your sleeper, and take a fucking nap. Take a nap. Sorry. Shit. Yeah. You ain't gonna turn.   Yeah. Well, you ain't gonna turn. You ain't got shit  

[00:54:31] Bryan Goodwin:

to see.  

[00:54:33] Rich Chelson:

That is why driving whenever I've had   being down here in Texas, driving back to Nebraska,   it's always a lot more enjoyable   to drive it at night.  

[00:54:45] Bryan Goodwin:

You got shit. Because  

[00:54:47] Rich Chelson:

that is exactly correct. You'd   you don't have to look at what ain't fucking there   and,   you know, just what's in front with the headlights.  

[00:54:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. The only other thing that I noticed about, like, western Nebraska, which is where I did I I spent my 3 months of hell no never doing Nebraska again,   was that they do also do a shit ton of hay.   They ain't got shit for cows, but they got lot of hay.   Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Colorado needs hay, dude. Fucking Colorado needs hay. Well, yeah, they've got all the damn you know, all the all the rich sons of bitches and their horses.  

[00:55:27] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Well, that and cows too. Believe me. There's a lot of cows running. Yeah. There's some cows down around Junta.  

[00:55:32] Bryan Goodwin:

So  

[00:55:33] Rich Chelson:

I   used   to  

[00:55:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I used to Yeah. I used to  

[00:55:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I used to And the enjoyable thing   of driving through Nebraska   and Kansas   is all those huge   freaking buildings   they call   silos.  

[00:55:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Elevators.  

[00:55:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well yeah. Okay. You wanna get fucking technical,   elevators.   Whatever.  

[00:56:03] Bryan Goodwin:

A silo is just a long tube.   The elevator is a whole bunch of tubes all mashed together.  

[00:56:12] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So yeah. What alright. Fine. Correct me. I don't give a shit. Yo. Elevator.  

[00:56:18] Bryan Goodwin:

What are that big you know what they call those that long rectangular   structure up on the top?   No.   The Texas house?  

[00:56:31] Rich Chelson:

Enlighten   my fucking life.  

[00:56:34] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm trying, damn it. I'd I spent 2 years working in the damn coop.  

[00:56:41] Rich Chelson:

I can Well, enlighten my life. Why is that rect champion.   Why what is that rectangular   configuration   at the top of a what do you call it? An elevator?   An elevator.   What is that? Just a auger distribution   point?  

[00:56:58] Bryan Goodwin:

For each one of the The large it basically, it is a because what it does, they have   in each elevator, especially at the places where it's a lot taller than the than the long,   than the rest of the areas,   What they have is they have a it's a conveyor belt, like you're saying, but it's and it's got a bunch of buckets.   Alright? It's just a bucket conveyor air area.   So   the, it spins the, the   the the conveyor belt actually pretty fast.   And so that it was buckets come down that grabs us, scoops up by a bucket full of, of grain,   carries it all the way up to the top.  

And the way that it's designed is that as it goes over, it slings the grain over to over into,   into a receiver.   And depending on how you've got the receiver set up, it will determine where it's supposed to   send the grain.   And so if it's sending over to the Texas house, it drops onto a long horizontal conveyor belt that takes it over to whichever,   bin you're wanting to to unload it.   And, and you have a trip with with this big machine that basically is just   designed to   toss the, the grain   into another receiver, which throws it into into, one of the bins.   So it's   Wonderful. Yeah. Bottom of the that is the pit. Yeah. The pit. The pit goes down into the boot   and, the boot is actually in the boot pit.  

So yeah.   A lot of fun.   God, I hate being down in the pit, though. Oh, I hate being in the pit.  

[00:58:37] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's where the drain drop that's where the grain did   and you can correct me if you want to. I don't give a shit.   When the grain truck   comes in  

[00:58:47] Bryan Goodwin:

and drops it, that's the boot pit. Right? Well, it drops it into the pit. And from the pit, you depending on how much you open up the gate,   depends on how much grain goes in. You can't open it all the way up or you'll flood the, you'll flood the the boot,   And then you'll start slowing the the you'll get too much grain in the buckets.   And so it makes it go slower, and so it's not slinging,   slinging the the grain properly into the receiver.   And so it starts backflowing   down the back down the backside of the,   of the boot, of the leg,   which then causes you to end up choking your, choking the the belt or choking the the leg.  

And then life sucks because then you have to turn the turn the leg off, close the, close the pit, wait for the that guy who's trying to unload so he can go grab some more grain has to sit there and wait as you go down, open up the pit,   digs all the grain out from the bottom of the pit,   and then try to get enough dugout so that the leg will actually start moving again.   And then once the once it gets moving and it's going fast enough for you, then alright. Then you can get to close the, close the the everything back up.   And then once you got the every,   the grain in the pit cleared out, then you get to go back downstairs and start scooping grain   into the end of the pit. Hopefully, you don't get your your shovel too close to the,   to the boot, buckets because they will catch your,   your shovel and send it up the,   up the leg too. That sucks.  

So  

[01:00:26] Rich Chelson:

I take it from per personal experience.  

[01:00:28] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I'm not. Okay. Yeah.  

[01:00:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. I knew you were gonna see yeah.  

[01:00:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.   Yeah. I've done that. I've I've also Yeah. Yeah. I've   also choked the top belt down before. That was that was a, a bit of an embarrassment.  

[01:00:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Probably pissed off a lot of people, didn't you?  

[01:00:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Pissed off myself because I was the one who ended up having to actually scooch, take all the grain and throw it onto the top belt so it'd go into the right hole. And so I did that for about two and a half weeks. I fucked that up really good.   So   So   but yeah. Yeah. Lots of lots of fun stuff in there.  

[01:01:16] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, for the time that I   the only thing that I ever did, and it's   I think shit that's been   fuck it. When I was   16,   15, many, many, many, many   years and eons ago,   the only thing I ever   did with corn was detassel 1 summer. And I didn't even fucking last the whole goddamn summer. That was fucking painful.   And I think it's mechanical now. I I don't know. I couldn't tell you.   But as as far as my corn experience   ever went,   my whole time in Nebraska for 18 years.  

[01:02:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I got to rogue wheat or not wheat,   Darla.   Alfalfa. Good grief. It's like going, who's that fucking kid with the hair that sticks straight up? Alfalfa.   Had to had to rogue Alfalfa once.   That's why I learned to have a lot of freaking respect for the Mexicans.   Man, those dudes no. And dudes dudes and dudettes and their kids, boy, they all get out there with a machete and just quack quack quack. They're just chopping, you know, chopping shit. Yeah. Fuck that shit. Down left, right, center, and   my little white ass is out there. Snap. Snap. Snap. Snap. Trying to get stuff cut down. And I look up, and they've got half a damn row finished. And I'm, you know, I'm here on my   on on 1 12th of a row just   fucking hell. Son of a bitch. How how did they go so fast?  

So yeah.   That sucked.   Rogan alfalfa and Milo   had to do the Milo field next to it   because they couldn't spray because of the alfalfa.   Right.   Anyhow,   so   so,   dude, what have you been up to this week? Anything fun? Been able to work this week?  

[01:03:37] Rich Chelson:

No.   Yeah. Working on staying sane. That's about it. Staying now? Okay. Okay. Been on vacation  

[01:03:49] Bryan Goodwin:

because I had Only man who has to go on vacation and bitches about it. Tell him I'd have to work. I can't work.  

[01:03:56] Rich Chelson:

You know what? I would you know? And because I had to borrow my I would much rather fucking be at work   than yeah. I would just rather be at fucking work than be at the house.  

[01:04:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, maybe that you could've, could've talked to your, your boss into letting you   work on your vacation.  

[01:04:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Unfortunately, they don't pay double.  

[01:04:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no, it's not today. You pay. You just you know? I'm on vacation. We're doing vacation pay, but, hell, I gotta do something. So you know?   I'm coming in, but really you're not.  

[01:04:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. They they won't. Yeah. It's either one or the other. You can't have both.  

[01:04:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Freaking department of labor. I don't know what the hell is good for us.  

[01:04:44] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah, HR wouldn't that wouldn't go over very well.   Now we before we got bought out,   we used to be able for,   I don't know how many years,   I would cash in   all of my well, pretty much all of my vacation   and all of my sick time   in every year.   Right.   I wish they would   allow us to do that again,   cash that in. Hell, I'd have freaking   5 weeks   on top of, you know, going to work. You know? Right.  

[01:05:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Somehow,   you looked at it, and all of a sudden, you had 57 weeks of, of pay.  

[01:05:37] Rich Chelson:

I have a   I will actually this year.   Once I bank to my limit on sick pay,   I will actually lose,   like,   16 hours   this year   of sick pay.   At the end of this year, I will have a 100 and 50 hours   banked   of sick pay   nor of sick time banked.  

[01:06:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, we're gonna have to go off and get you sick with a blonde, man.   Yeah. My boss said, you know what? Blonde or sick with it was sick with a redhead. Yeah.   Yeah. Something like that. Coming down with a redhead.  

[01:06:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And my boss told me   because I'll be losing it this year, and it's irrelevant anymore. But he's like, why don't you just, like,   call me   on a Monday morning and say,   you can't fucking go to Abilene and just take a fucking sick day off? I'm like,   what did that   why? Then then the whole schedule gets all kinds of fucked up, and   why would I do that? Why would I   you know?   I don't know.  

[01:06:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Take you out. We'll buy you 2 cases of frou frou bitch drinks and just have you drink them all.   That way, following Monday, I can. I'm drunk.  

[01:07:10] Rich Chelson:

Casey. No. If I'm gonna do anything, I'll get some of that   that,   peach,   peach sickle   snot or, peachsicle   moonshine.   Peach yeah. The dreamsicle.   Yeah. The dreamsicle. Yeah.  

[01:07:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Shoot. Yeah. That's the of course, I don't I don't know how bad of a headache that thing would give you as dangerous as it is.  

[01:07:35] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, the   the three times that I've been up to Moyers and consumed the amount of   moonshine that I did,   never woke up with a headache.  

[01:07:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's kinda what I was figuring. I mean, usually, it's the impurities in the,   in the alcohol that give you the, the head thumper.  

[01:07:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:07:58] Bryan Goodwin:

So and the way I've always fixed that is just take   take 4 aspirin,   drink, drink 2 big glasses of water, and just go straight to bed. Don't wake up till you decide to wake up.  

[01:08:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Pretty much.   But, you know, and since I don't drink other than,   you know,   I haven't touched any alcohol since,   Moyers.   Uh-huh. Since the moonshine. Yeah. I haven't touched any alcohol.  

[01:08:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, well, I I don't and I don't drink much, y'all, but I   I brought home But you couple But you don't drink any less either. You don't drink any less. Well, I don't drink any less, but, you know, I'm not I'm not drinking to excess either.   I heck.   I I I can have a 12 pack last me a month. So  

[01:08:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:08:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Because I'll drink on I may have 1 or 2 on Friday night, maybe 4 on a   on a Sunday, and then and that's it. That's if I'm heavy drinking or not a Sunday, a Saturday. That's a heavy drink at night. Other than that, it's usually probably 2.   And,   it it goes until it's gone, and then maybe   4 months later, it's like, hey. I haven't had beer in a while, so I'll go grab another   12 pack of, of Coronas or,   or,   Jalisco Estrellas   or, or some type of other cerveza.  

[01:09:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. Thank you.  

[01:09:36] Bryan Goodwin:

That's actually really interesting that that is one of the few things that we've   that is a part of   the culture   so much that, you know, a lot of times people, if you don't drink, they they   they really question   pretty damn   hard   when you say you don't drink.  

[01:09:56] Rich Chelson:

And isn't that just fucking pathetic?  

[01:09:58] Bryan Goodwin:

It's it's, it's it's odd, actually.   It's like, well, why don't you drink? Because I don't wanna.   Oh, okay.   Well, gee, I wish I could do that. I was like, well, you can. But you retired from the military. Shouldn't you, like, be a fucking alcoholic?   Typically, yeah. No.  

[01:10:15] Rich Chelson:

No. I had to fucking   grow up with that fucking shit.   Right. I don't want I don't want to become it.  

[01:10:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:10:27] Rich Chelson:

No, thank you. I'm already   a grumpy asshole as it is. All alcohol is just a,   an amplifier.   So do you want me to be   more of a grumpy asshole?  

[01:10:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that would be kinda interesting to watch just once as long as I wasn't the target of your grumpiness.  

[01:10:48] Rich Chelson:

Well, you just might become. So, you know,   you know, your wish   you know, I might make your wishes come true.  

[01:10:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Well,   like I said, as long as I'm not the one who sees it,   is target of it, I can just watch it from afar and go, oh, well, I'm not the call him that? Really? Say that?  

[01:11:10] Rich Chelson:

And if that is something that you you dream of, man, I tell you what, your dreams are fucking awfully shallow.  

[01:11:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That yay. They're they're they're interesting.  

[01:11:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   But to dream of something that to have that is like, man, you're that's   that you'd be a sad, sad little man.  

[01:11:37] Bryan Goodwin:

So, Rich,   what are you up to?  

[01:11:43] Duuude-Ron :

None. Just listening to y'all.  

[01:11:46] Rich Chelson:

That was us, yep.  

[01:11:48] Bryan Goodwin:

And bitching and complaining because you couldn't get out of fucking bed this morning. Well, why couldn't you get out of bed this morning? Why don't you tell every all the listeners what your your high adventure of yesterday?  

[01:11:59] Rich Chelson:

Because he's a   pussy.  

[01:12:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay, dude.  

[01:12:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I could have had that motherfucker shut up in an hour.  

[01:12:09] Duuude-Ron :

Bring your ass over here.  

[01:12:11] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm gonna say, well, come on, stop talking. Let's start stepping, man. Let's get you over there.  

[01:12:17] Rich Chelson:

You know how many 0 8254 and 10 as I've pulled in my life?  

[01:12:21] Duuude-Ron :

You know what? I'd I'd give them a damn step. Come on, Come step. I'll let you do it all, dude. And I already have the guidelines laid out.   So let's I I wanna see you do it.  

[01:12:33] Bryan Goodwin:

You know how many times I was oh, you ate 1 too?  

[01:12:37] Duuude-Ron :

What?   I  

[01:12:39] Rich Chelson:

did not. Yeah. Okay. That one didn't that one did not that   did not compute.  

[01:12:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Dude, you did not compute. The the Van Halen album, oh, you 812.   Oh, okay. That's the closest thing to a string of letters and numbers I could come up with. So  

[01:12:56] Rich Chelson:

See if you go Why don't you just say 8 why don't you just say,   8675309   3099?  

[01:13:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, because that would that that's just sounds like a phone number. I wanted to you know, you threw out this o u 812 or   h h b d   c 439   niner alchico. So I was like, I gotta throw something out. You know, something sounds kinda kinda military ish.   So  

[01:13:23] Rich Chelson:

You know what? I'm gonna have to,   I need to find a picture of that and send it to you.   Hell for that matter, you probably could have it looked up,   you know, here in like about 30 seconds.  

[01:13:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I could. If I knew what in the hell it was you were saying. It was like HB C 13 or something like that.  

[01:13:48] Duuude-Ron :

Osteo   Echo 254.  

[01:13:52] Rich Chelson:

Antenna.   Type that in. OE 254,   army military   antenna.   You don't need to See what you come up with.   Well, I'm sure you don't. O e 254?  

[01:14:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And hit enter and look at images. Yeah. I'm looking at,  

[01:14:11] Bryan Goodwin:

David's images of a single   stakes o e 254   race.   No. No. So Paul Dude is playing with a big old   playing with an antenna. It's got,   it's got,   looks like   3,   maybe 2, 3, 5. I don't know how many that is. Yeah. I see 3 sticking up that are locked in a fan shape. So  

[01:14:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And there's 3 down too. Yeah. Yeah. 4 up and 3 down. 2 conicals.  

[01:14:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I was looking try   I don't wanna search inside images. Let me see a damn thing.   Oh, it's on Facebook.   Yeah. Watch some dude just toss the top end up, and another guy's pulling on it.   Now there's,   like, 6 or   6, maybe   9,   8 guidelines. Yeah.   Yeah. There's, like, 3   yep. That's okay.  

[01:15:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's that's a that's a o e 254.  

[01:15:17] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Did you display it in the thing?  

[01:15:21] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm fixing it. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Bring it up then.   Copy that, Lee.   Come over here to Zoomers   and ChOTS.   And tap there. Tap there. Tap. Tap. Tap.   Tap. There we go. Alright.  

[01:15:52] Duuude-Ron :

It should be on my downloads.   Dumbass.   Redly.   Save images.   Okay.   It says it'll save the text. I could not find it.   Oh, there it is. Click a minute.   Alright. There.   Bring it bigger,   and you'll see it, Brian.  

[01:16:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright.  

[01:16:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yep. Yeah. It has it has 3 sticks going up, 3 sticks going down. Going down. Yep.  

[01:16:51] Bryan Goodwin:

And there's some tape too.   Don't forget about the tape.  

[01:16:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, there's  

[01:16:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Lot of tape.  

[01:16:59] Rich Chelson:

Let's just say this. How many, you know how many of those lines   I have tripped over in the middle of the night out in the field going to take a pee?  

[01:17:10] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't see why y'all don't just hang the little those little chemical lights off of it.  

[01:17:17] Rich Chelson:

Because that does not allow for,   night   nighttime   discipline  

[01:17:26] Bryan Goodwin:

or light discipline. Light discipline. Exactly. Yeah.   It's kinda like Yeah. Kinda like us doing the ship,   go,   go dark on on a ship. You know? You have gotta got   2 doors and got a red light in between, in between, and so you have to close one then before you open the other one.   So it's a pain in the ass.  

[01:18:00] Duuude-Ron :

And the thing is, those antennas those antennas are only about 20 feet up, give or take.   20, 25 feet.  

[01:18:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's about right.   Because each one of those antenna poles was   2 feet,   and you'd have  

[01:18:20] Duuude-Ron :

They're 4 feet, dude.  

[01:18:22] Rich Chelson:

No. Not the 0 254 antennas.   Yeah. Pulse?   Okay.   So, yeah, you have 3 to your first link   or 4, and then you have 3 on top   to your second,   guide ring.   Yeah. It's been many years since I put one of those up, but I remember the fun they were.   Man, that was a bitch putting those things up, pulling them up.   Because, yeah, you could not you had to have the arc,   going downwards,   not upwards,   because then it just you couldn't you couldn't pull it up.  

[01:19:07] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. Say, I didn't have to   actually mess with these because I was a mechanic.   But since I was attached to   a signal battalion,   I did have a few friends that were signal rats, and   so I would help them with their  

[01:19:39] Rich Chelson:

because, we we would have to we would have to set them up from   well,   depending upon the the scenario, we'd have to set them up so we'd have communications   from   the observation   post to the   the FTC and the guns.  

[01:19:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:20:03] Rich Chelson:

So   and I know that you you served in an artillery   battalion, didn't you, Rich?  

[01:20:10] Duuude-Ron :

I was attached to, 8 to the 8th field artillery. Yeah. We had 109s.   But I I was first Yeah.   I was Yeah. 109.  

[01:20:21] Rich Chelson:

15 fives. Right?  

[01:20:23] Duuude-Ron :

No. One o nines.   Mechanized.   One o nines.  

[01:20:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's 155   millimeter rounds.  

[01:20:31] Duuude-Ron :

No. They're 109   millimeter rounds.   At least that's what I was told.  

[01:20:40] Rich Chelson:

No. That's incorrect. Right. The the nomenclature   of   the platform   was an m 109.   The bore   of that artillery tube   was a 155   millimeters.  

[01:20:55] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   I don't know. So   Again, I was a mechanic, and I I'm just going by what I was told by the tankers.   That Yeah.  

[01:21:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. That that was the nomenclature of the gun.  

[01:21:08] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:21:11] Rich Chelson:

But you have the towed howitzers, which are 105 millimeters. And then like the 1 0 nines, those are a 155   millimeter bores.  

[01:21:20] Duuude-Ron :

And see, my first unit was,   a 100 21st signal battalion.   So   we had 4 companies of   of, radio operators.  

[01:21:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And all of them were pretty much rat rigs. Right?  

[01:21:38] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, we had a few,   mounted on deuce and haves, but, yeah, most of them were on Cub Versus.   The old Cub Versus.  

[01:21:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But it was a it was a   rat rig shack   on those on those vehicles.  

[01:21:54] Duuude-Ron :

M No?   Most of the camo vans had,   boxes on the back of them.   Yeah. Most most of the trucks. Yeah.  

[01:22:07] Rich Chelson:

And see the nice thing about those is they had those   crank up antennas.  

[01:22:13] Duuude-Ron :

No. We didn't.   We had No. We didn't. Together. No.  

[01:22:18] Rich Chelson:

You had to put up the   you had to roll up the 08254s?   Yes.   So basically an antenna farm?  

[01:22:27] Duuude-Ron :

Pretty much.   Pretty much. I mean, yeah, we'd, yeah, we'd, yeah, we'd be by ourselves and then Bravo company, Alpha company, and Delta company would be   off other areas   and,   you know, passing information,   on back to the rear.   We were   we were between the front line and the rear.   Yeah.  

[01:22:56] Rich Chelson:

So You're between you're roughly halfway between the front line and the division,   yeah, division   division   rear.  

[01:23:08] Duuude-Ron :

In other words,   when you called a fire mission, it   it normally came through,   our line or, well, your   your next line in, and then it went to,   division, and then it went back out.  

[01:23:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   So  

[01:23:39] Rich Chelson:

oh, yeah.   Those were the fun days. Right? Yeah. Carrying around a 100 and   oh, shit, my rucksack   with batteries.   It was about a £120   that I had to lug around through the woods.  

[01:23:56] Bryan Goodwin:

That's a bet.  

[01:23:58] Rich Chelson:

That was a heavy motherfucker. Yes. Because we had   because before we had the CINGRs, we had PR 70 sevens with a k y 57,   an external,   secured system,   for the communications where it scrambled the signal.  

[01:24:22] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[01:24:24] Rich Chelson:

It was Then you had to have battery had to have batteries for both and yeah. That was a, a yeah. I hated those days.   Now the fucking CINGRs that they have are shit.   A third of the size of the ones that   I taught at Fort Sill Oklahoma   for part of my instructor time,   They're a third of the size now.  

[01:24:50] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.   And they can do a whole lot more.  

[01:25:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Funny thing. Yeah.   I don't know.   It's been many fucking eons ago, and at this point in time, don't really give a shit   Cause I ain't never gonna fuck with 1 again.  

[01:25:16] Bryan Goodwin:

You sure? We I'm I bet you, we might be able to get one together so that you could screw around with us some more.  

[01:25:22] Rich Chelson:

No fucking. Thank you. No, thank you. Oh, come on. Oh, hell yeah.  

[01:25:26] Duuude-Ron :

Hey, Ron. I can find you.   I can find you a prick 77 with batteries   for fairly cheap too.  

[01:25:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. If the fucking battery, if the batteries are even fucking,   they're probably fucking well dead by now.   No. No. That's been 30 fucking years ago.  

[01:25:47] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, they still sell prick 70 sevens with batteries. I can, I can buy them from a ham?   Ham still have these prick 70 sevens.   I can buy them a prick 77 with batteries. Nope.  

[01:26:01] Rich Chelson:

Don't fucking want to see one.  

[01:26:04] Duuude-Ron :

Why, dude?  

[01:26:07] Rich Chelson:

That brings back in   entirely too many bad memories.  

[01:26:13] Duuude-Ron :

That is all in the eye of the beholder.  

[01:26:16] Rich Chelson:

Well, you didn't have to carry that motherfucker around now, did you?  

[01:26:22] Duuude-Ron :

No, sir. I did not because I was a mechanic.   That's  

[01:26:26] Rich Chelson:

true.   That's true. You're right.  

[01:26:30] Duuude-Ron :

I   I chose I chose to be a grease monkey.  

[01:26:36] Rich Chelson:

Take the grease off of there, and that's what you chose.   Yeah. You're right. You take the grease out of there, and you're just fucking monkey.   Oh, no. I was covered in grease, man. I lived in Oh, I can't believe I can't believe it with the fucking m one zero nines and, you know, being in an artillery battalion. Yeah. Them fucking things are   that and the cats that followed in behind the one zero nines that carried the ammo.  

[01:27:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And, and,   well,   honestly well, I don't know what was worse, the signal battalion or or the damn gun bunnies.   I don't know. I'd honestly, I don't know what was worse when it come to,   vehicles.  

[01:27:18] Rich Chelson:

You know, probably the fucking   signal.   Yeah. It does. You know, the gun buddy could actually fucking work on their shit sometime.   Right. You know, but the signal guys, the fuck, no. I'm signal. I ain't no goddamn mechanic.  

[01:27:32] Duuude-Ron :

That's that's pretty much   the way it was. Yep. Unless unless   unless the damn signal   fuckers   watched you do something or, like, the next time, they're like, oh, I can do that. And then they smoke a motor   and a cut, bitch. Yeah. No shit.   Really?  

[01:27:52] Rich Chelson:

It's like PMCS, what the fuck is that?  

[01:27:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I was always on their ass about that.  

[01:27:59] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because they never fucking did it. Oh, I know. I know.   Well and if they did, it was just a fucking,   pencil whip. You actually think they got up underneath the fucking vehicles and looked?  

[01:28:11] Duuude-Ron :

Some of them did, but very few.  

[01:28:13] Rich Chelson:

Very few.  

[01:28:14] Duuude-Ron :

Hell hell, most of them would,   wouldn't even,   check the radios or the cards that they use because I used big cards   that they Yep. Slots,   you know?  

[01:28:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:28:29] Duuude-Ron :

Sometimes those cars would those   those cards would go bad, and they'd have to,   turn them into supply   and get a new one or or or a supply would or the,   yeah. Yeah. Supply and the motor pole would   would have to order.   You know? Because, some of them cards are, like, $4,5000.  

[01:28:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh.  

[01:28:57] Duuude-Ron :

It wasn't cheap for  

[01:29:00] Rich Chelson:

for a lot of it here. Oh, yeah. Some of those cards were fucking 10, 12,   $20,000   each.   Yeah.   Yep.   I remember some of the,   the radar cards,   with the,   q   because all I never knew was a q 36 because a q 36 was with a 105, and the q 30 sevens were with a   and those are radar,   systems,   Brian. They were with the artillery. Q 36 was a smaller radar   that was with the,   smaller   artillery. Well, with the 105 round   artillery, and then a q 30 sevens was with the 1 5 fives.  

[01:29:46] Duuude-Ron :

Ah, okay. Okay.  

[01:29:48] Rich Chelson:

So  

[01:29:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We were yeah. Even though,   you know, even though we had,   you know, basic jobs in a way,   we had expensive jobs too.  

[01:30:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I remember I remember one of the guys with the q 36 radar said that one of those cards   was a   $100,000.  

[01:30:13] Duuude-Ron :

I can believe that.  

[01:30:15] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:30:19] Duuude-Ron :

I can believe that.   But see, that's the thing. Even though even though I worked on the trucks, I worked on the 3, 5,   and 10 and 15 k generators.   I could not   I could not   go in those combo vans   and do anything in there. I was not allowed.  

[01:30:41] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Because you didn't have a fucking,   secret clearance.  

[01:30:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:30:47] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I know.  

[01:30:53] Duuude-Ron :

Now I'm not saying that I never did go in there, but it was always with   with permission of the   main radio guy. But  

[01:31:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, yeah. But they had they didn't have anything. Well and it it amazes me because there wasn't   like with me, I had a top secret clearance just because of my MOS.   Right.   So but if you didn't have a secret clearance, you wouldn't be able to fucking unless you were a goddamn computer guru, you wouldn't be able to understand the fucking chips anyway   What? With the way they're   designed back then. You know? But, again,   you also could not they were a secret item.  

[01:31:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   That is true.  

[01:31:42] Rich Chelson:

Yep. So   you can walk in there anytime if they had all the cards and everything,   you know, secured in the into the equipment. That wasn't an issue.  

[01:31:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They just   yeah. I just like you know, y'all can have that in there. I'll just I'd I'd just fix your truck. I'll fix your 3 k generator that you fuck up every week.  

[01:32:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Because they don't either don't know how to fucking put oil into it or put fucking   oil into the gas fucking reservoir or vice versa.   And and, of course, they weren't doing any fucking continuous maintenance on this shit.  

[01:32:25] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hell no.  

[01:32:27] Rich Chelson:

No. Hell no. That's what that's that's why they had 88 Mike's,   Mac Mackinac's.  

[01:32:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. 88 Mike's, they were,   I think second shop or third shop.   Or no. 88 Mike's were,   fuck. They were tow trucks.  

[01:32:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, that was just what a mechanic's   MOS was. It was an 88 Mike. Right?  

[01:32:55] Duuude-Ron :

I wanna see.  

[01:32:58] Rich Chelson:

I'm sure they had them divided up between, you know,   light equipment, heavy equipment.  

[01:33:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. 88 Mike was a truck driver.  

[01:33:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. You're right. My my fucking dumbass.   Yeah. You're right.   I don't know what a mechanic was. What was your what was your MOS?  

[01:33:17] Duuude-Ron :

I was a 63 bravo.  

[01:33:19] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. That's right.  

[01:33:21] Duuude-Ron :

And a 63 Charlie   was,   say,   63 alpha, I think, was a,   3rd shop,   which was where they did all the where they pulled the motors, put motors back in   vehicles and shit.   And,   say, 63 trailer. I can't remember what that was.   But   now they've changed it to all of the mechanic services are 92 deltas.   Oh, okay.   92 series.   So   because, Dalton   is a,   a generator mechanic.  

[01:34:06] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:34:08] Duuude-Ron :

And,   he,   is a 92 Delta.  

[01:34:14] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:34:16] Duuude-Ron :

So,   oh,   a 63 Charlie is is a tank mechanic.  

[01:34:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:34:27] Duuude-Ron :

But in South Korea,   it don't matter what you are.   You everything.   Mhmm. Light wheel, heavy wheel, track.   Yep. Tank mechanic,   generator mechanic.   If it has a motor and it's broke, you fix it.  

[01:34:48] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   So,  

[01:34:55] Duuude-Ron :

well, at least that's how it was.   Yeah. It was sad the other day. I, I looked up camp Stanley   on on Google maps,   and that was sad looking at that place   because it's empty.  

[01:35:12] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah?  

[01:35:13] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. I yeah. It's yeah. It's   yeah, I found I found my old barracks.   I found the ville   where, I'd go see mama san first and eat and start drinking and then make my way down   the down the hill and then back up north.   And then,   my shop, I found my shop I had for a while,   but there's no one there. I was like, man, I'm pissed.   Yeah. I was upset.   I was like, dang it.   And believe it or not, camp Stanley was very small.   Very small.  

[01:35:57] Rich Chelson:

You know, I never went to camp Stanley.   I my ass just stayed on   well,   I was broken PO post, so I just stayed on the base. But, you know,   never left   Camp  

[01:36:16] Duuude-Ron :

Casey. Dude, Camp Casey, man. You was in you was in the lap of luxury in Casey.  

[01:36:23] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I know.   Because we had the division forward   mess hall.  

[01:36:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:36:30] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. There You guys just had   a mess hall, a battalion mess hall.  

[01:36:36] Duuude-Ron :

That was all we had. Oh, no. I know.   There was  

[01:36:40] Rich Chelson:

there was because that was small. SML. Small.  

[01:36:44] Duuude-Ron :

There was a few times that, I I went to KC for whatever,   and I'm like, damn. This is how the other half lives.   I was upset,   man. I was like, that's rude. That sounds  

[01:36:59] Rich Chelson:

Probably,   and when you step foot into the, commissary and the, PX, it's like, damn.  

[01:37:07] Duuude-Ron :

Right?  

[01:37:08] Rich Chelson:

Look at this fucking Macy's department store.   Oh, yeah. Compared to what you had.   Yeah. Well Shit. Your your, your PX was probably a Kwanzaa hut. Wasn't it?  

[01:37:22] Duuude-Ron :

Maybe a little bigger than that. Not much.  

[01:37:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Not much.  

[01:37:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We,   we, definitely,   they did have a sale one time, 25¢   a carton on fucking cigarettes.  

[01:37:40] Bryan Goodwin:

25¢. Yeah. Because I remember a carton. Holy shit. I've quite cleared it out.  

[01:37:46] Rich Chelson:

Well, it's You know, I   I remember,   Derek Casey   for the,   you know, like the no label beer. They had no label cigarettes for $2 a carton.  

[01:37:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yes, sir.   No. No. No. These here were Marlboros, man. Marlboro reds, 25¢ a carton.   And I guess they were old or whatnot or we're out of date.   And,   the bad thing is, though, back at that time, we had ration cards. We can only   get 5 cartons a month.   And so so we would find the people who didn't smoke   and Yep. Give them the money and say, hey. Run your cigarettes for us.  

[01:38:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Get  

[01:38:29] Duuude-Ron :

was on your on your ration card. Oh, yeah. We have ration card, man.  

[01:38:35] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Let's see. Alcohol,   tobacco   Yep.   Was pretty much   for the ration card. Yep.   But yeah. Had the same thing had the same thing over in Germany.  

[01:38:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. We had yeah.   Yeah. We had the ration card and and   you you had to watch what you spent. I mean I mean, back then, I think I think a carton of Marlboros was, like, $9.   You know what I mean? It was cheap anyway, but 25¢ a carton, damn.   Everybody was,   stocking up on that shit.  

[01:39:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.   Yep.  

[01:39:20] Duuude-Ron :

You, couldn't make no extra money for about 3 months.  

[01:39:27] Bryan Goodwin:

No.   Why is that?  

[01:39:29] Duuude-Ron :

Because everyone had cigarettes, man.  

[01:39:33] Bryan Goodwin:

You do. Oh, so you you wouldn't be charged. You can charge them, you know, for for a smoke. Okay.  

[01:39:38] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. Because I mean, you know, if you said   I want a dollar a cigarette,   they'll be like, fuck you. And that says next guy, he'd be like, here, I give you a 4 for a dollar.   They'd pay that. So you see,   you couldn't make no money.  

[01:39:56] Rich Chelson:

Right.   In these days, it's called a side hustle.  

[01:40:03] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. No. That's yeah.   Yeah. I remember that.   Now, Alexa, I god.   I wanna say that was in, like,   July of 89,   if I remember right.   But  

[01:40:24] Rich Chelson:

Say that again?  

[01:40:26] Duuude-Ron :

I was I'll say, I think, if I remember right, that was in, July of 89.   June or July.  

[01:40:35] Rich Chelson:

When was I over in Korea?   99   let's see. 9, 90, 91.   93   is when I was over in Korea.  

[01:40:52] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:40:55] Rich Chelson:

If I remember correctly, I'd have to get out my book and   thumb through it.  

[01:41:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I was over there.   So I went over there, I say, I'm I wanna say March  

[01:41:09] Bryan Goodwin:

of,  

[01:41:11] Duuude-Ron :

yeah, March   of 89, I think,   or late 88.   Can't remember.   So   it was a culture shock for me.   I mean, hell, you know, I had went to   Fort Jackson, South Carolina. That was the furthest I'd been away from home ever   when I was 17.   I stayed in Fort Jackson for AIT,   came home over Christmas,   went to Fort Riley,   Kansas.   I went.   Been there   year and a half, down there 2 years.   And then   and and I was I was I was putting in paperwork to go to Germany.   Uh-huh. I should've just reversed psychology on them. Told them I wanted to go to Korea. They probably would've sent me to Germany.   But,   but I was I was putting in for Germany   and, orders came down and sent me to Korea.  

And that was the furthest away from home I had ever been in my life. I did not know what to expect.   Yeah.   That was,   that was crazy.   I got a lesson real quick.   That's not saying I listened too well, but I got a fucking lesson quick.   But I did   I did have some fun down over there.  

[01:42:56] Rich Chelson:

I'm Will Smith. And you and usually, I was the designated walker   instead of the designated driver. Because since we do couldn't have vehicles, we always designated walker to get the, you know, the   the alcoholics   to the bus.   Yeah. Same. And then from the bus and then from the bus to their rooms.  

[01:43:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That was always that was always just a hilarious  

[01:43:26] Rich Chelson:

experience. That's for damn sure.   I had a fucking guy that tripped in in a what were they called? Turtle ditches?  

[01:43:38] Bryan Goodwin:

What do you mean? The kids feline. I don't know.  

[01:43:40] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. The irrigation, they were called turtle dishes, weren't they?  

[01:43:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I can't remember.  

[01:43:47] Rich Chelson:

Okay. But anyway, I had a fucking one of my soldiers that tripped into a fucking,   turtle ditch and fucking   broke one arm and fucking sprained her wrist   On 2 on on   broke one arm and on the other one, he sprained his wrist. So he's in he was in fucking 2 slings at the same fucking time. This guy was a fucking idiot.  

[01:44:15] Duuude-Ron :

Sounds like it.  

[01:44:17] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. This   yeah. Well, we do a,   health and welfare. One time, he left his,   wall locker unsecured.   Yeah. I fucking   his wallet, his money,   stamps.   Yeah. Anything of fucking value,   I acquired. Brought it up to the   brought it up to our office and secured it in a wall locker   and didn't tell him shit.   Didn't tell him a damn thing.   And it was, what, 2 or 3 days before he fucking figured out his goddamn money, his wallet, and everything was fucking missing. And then comes to me, oh, my shit got taken.   Why?   Could it be that you didn't secure your fucking locker?   And you have   3 other roommates   that would have no problem taking your money.  

Yeah. He got   I think I made him right   a thousand   times.   I will never leave my wall locker unsecured.   A   thousand times.   And this was on, like, a Wednesday. I say, you have until Friday   to,   write that.   He was burning the motherfucking midnight oil   and so he could have that sentence wrote a 1,000 times. And then when he presented it to me, I looked at it   and threw it in the trash. I'm like, now how much fucking time did you   did you waste on this?   Did it make you fucking think?   Well, maybe I should secure my wallet in cash.   Yeah. This kid was   he was unique.  

I'll put it to you like that.   And there's some nice dead airtime.  

[01:46:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.   So there I said it was like, it's time it's time to start pulling up weird questions today.   So  

[01:46:40] Rich Chelson:

Alright. So what is the fucking I'm sure you will create a couple   of questions.   What is the fucking weird   question and or statement   for today   with your intellectual,   unique mind that you have?  

[01:47:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Let's see here.  

[01:47:07] Duuude-Ron :

And then you stomped.  

[01:47:09] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. Actually, I'm looking through quite a few. I mean, we've got,   like, what's the weirdest fact you know? It's like, yeah. Okay. That was just, that's not gonna go very far.   How current was your first social media profile? You know? It's like, okay. Who cares?   How would you, how would people react if they could see into your imagination?   I would probably be locked away.   Let's see here.   What would you do as a street performer? It's like, yeah. Okay. That's all very, very good one. What useless skill have you absolutely mastered?   That one's a possibility.  



[01:47:46] Rich Chelson:

I can give you one. Breathing.   Breathing.  

[01:47:52] Bryan Goodwin:

What conspiracy theory?  

[01:47:55] Rich Chelson:

No. We ain't going to fucking conspiracy theories. God damn. No. I got a guy at work. He's nothing but   his whole fucking line of when he talks is nothing but   conspiracy theories.   I'm like, dude, you're the fun, dude.   Fuck no. This guy Yeah. They are.   But Well Okay. So his is his is always either politics   or fucking military.  

[01:48:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Like what? Like what?  

[01:48:28] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   What does the military   refer to as a   mothership?   This is coming from him.   What does the military   refer to   the mothership?  

[01:48:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, that's a good topic of discussion.  

[01:48:46] Duuude-Ron :

Thank you for that reminder.   No.  

[01:48:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Because well, the reason where he's get where he got that from is because there's a dumbass senator   who's going through and   making the comment about where you because y'all heard of the drones that are flying around. Supposed   supposedly flying around,   like New Jersey and how they've spread across the US, but you've heard that all these drones are supposed to be flying around. Right?  

[01:49:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I've heard Duluth. Yeah. Okay. Okay.  

[01:49:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, one of our one of our esteemed senators who is a complete total   it was, was saying that Iran had sent over a mother ship   at, off, and it was off the coast,   off the, off the Eastern coast, sitting over the, Atlantic.   And it was one launching all these roads. Alright. That's where he's getting the, well, what is the military   classifies?   They don't classify anything. You just had a dip wad of a fucking Senator or congressman to go, well, they got car they've got a mother ship. But that, what I wanted to talk about is what,   what are all of the, the drone discussions   about? Do y'all have any clues or any ideas or any thoughts about this?  

No.   None whatsoever. Because it's really weird that out of nowhere,   we've got all these discussions coming up.  

[01:50:15] Duuude-Ron :

No. Like I said, I've I've I've seen headlines.   Haven't looked into any of them because   it's   yeah,   it's it's a ploy to get   limited minded people   to talk about something.  

[01:50:32] Bryan Goodwin:

To a point, you're you're on a path. I gotta look to see what look up what the, what,   the, the bill.  

[01:50:39] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well, I mean, that's that's just   that's just my thought of of   from   just reading a few headlines of saying it's it's   basically another way to,   keep small minded people thinking small minded and not and not using their brain to   to help themselves.   That's just my opinion. I'm not I'm not trying to force anybody to think,   you know, anything.   K.   But, I mean, honestly, I just I just thought it was the media trying to start shit before  

[01:51:21] Bryan Goodwin:

January. Well, no. It it's it's based upon what is called the law   of of, law of large numbers.   Alright? When you get enough people talking about something,   it just kinda gathers steam.   Right. And so people start acting in a very,   very predictable main, manner.  

[01:51:42] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. I'll look at history just even in the last 10 years.  

[01:51:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. God dang them. Tell me.   Where is this what's this bill number?  

[01:51:59] Duuude-Ron :

There's a bill?  

[01:52:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. There's a bill that's trying that's trying to go through.  

[01:52:07] Duuude-Ron :

What? Oh, I I'm I'm   scared to ask.   I mean, honestly, I am really scared to ask about this bill.  

[01:52:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Well,   basically, what it is,   it's it is a   there is a bill   that is being   it's part of the,   the the military   what that the military   funding bill that they always pass about this time every year.   Right. Okay. Okay. There is a section in there that allows for local,   the local law enforcement   to,   oh, how do they phrase in that? To track and disable drones,   say the federal officials authority,   federal officials authority to attract,   to say, tracked and disable, disabled drones is set to expire,   is snared in a battle,   but it's but anyhow, there is this   there is a bill that allows for the local   law enforcement   to take over what the FAA yeah. Aviation   Authority,   what the FAA is supposed to be.  

Okay. Oh, okay. Hang on. What? When it consid when it's around drones.  

[01:53:30] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Now now, what kind of drones are we talking about?  

[01:53:35] Bryan Goodwin:

That's the that's just it. It doesn't matter from what I'm understanding.  

[01:53:41] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[01:53:44] Bryan Goodwin:

It's They can you know, they can they well,   and and now from the kind of the some of the information I'd gathered from this is from no agenda.   But,   but because they're still wanting   the the government and well, not the government, but the local their the the US drone manufacturers   still can't compete with DJI.  

[01:54:09] Duuude-Ron :

No. They can't. It never will be able to. It never will be able to. Exactly.   You know why? Because they build their shit for military   and police force,   and those prices are fucking expensive. That's why they can never and the thing is, they won't build a smaller drone. Well, no. They do   build some very small drones   with some very high quality specs,   but it's only for military or police. Because if you look at some of these   American companies, drone manufacturers,   they will say on their website. I've I've I've looked them up. They will say on their website that   they only offer military and   law enforcement drones.  

And that Right. Is starting at $10   going up to Right.   There's no regular   person   that I know of that can afford that.  

[01:55:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. But but and at the same time,   who makes a even with those 10,000 everybody that's, that talks about these drones   talk about how the the US based drones are still   basically shit.  

[01:55:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. They are.  

[01:55:21] Bryan Goodwin:

While DJI is still just knocking you know, making a cheaper drone,   putting it out there. And so there and because it's Chinese owned, they're all the information is going into Chinese servers   as everything   does. And so as a means to so that the,   we they can try to ban DJI.   They're they're wanting to put in this this,   this   bill, and I'm trying to look up to see what the damn thing is called.   That's a temporary spending bill. So you give,   house rejects,  

[01:56:00] Duuude-Ron :

Trump back plan. Yep. The thing is, though, the thing is, what,   okay. What   if if this bill passes,   what will they be able to do? Now I do know,   for any drone over 249   grams,   it is it is supposed to have,   god. There's something that   remote ID,   which it which the drone is supposed to,   transmit its location,   position,   position,   and all like this. And it is supposed to be viewable   on an app or or a or a map,  

[01:56:44] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, through an app. Yeah. But they're but these are the drones that everybody's talking about. They don't know what the hell they're seeing. It's just out of nowhere automatically,   magically in, at night, all of a sudden, these lot, these drones are popping up that are just got all these lights and are blinking and everything else. You know, they're not actually military,   drones.   Well, no. They're being launched at at the they started out being launched and in conjunction with the New Jersey,   news media   to go, hey.  

We've got we've got something going on here. We've got a bunch of drones popping up at night. What are all these drones about? What's what's drones about? And it's just it's   multiplied   as as it's gone. So it's instead of being just over New Jersey, all of a sudden, it's all the way across the US.   You know, everyone's, oh, what are these drones about? Well, they're fucking planes for first first off.   And you hear dumb shits going, oh, well, look at that. That damn drone's about 3 year 30,000 feet. Well, if it's a little fucking drone,   you wouldn't be seeing it at 30,000 feet. No. No. I guarantee  

[01:57:50] Rich Chelson:

30 thou 30,000 feet, it's almost out of the fucking atmosphere. Yeah. It well, that's where planes fly. That's where that's where,  

[01:57:57] Bryan Goodwin:

airliners fly is at 30,000 feet. So 90% of the 99%   of I'll I'll you know, I know that 98.43%   of all facts are made up on the fly. But still I'm gonna say about 99% of all the dipshits out there.   Don't know what the hell they're talking about. Oh, wait. When they're looking at it, because one, you don't know how high a damn thing is just by looking at it.  

[01:58:22] Duuude-Ron :

No. You don't. Because like like, okay. I've got 2 drones,   and I could fly either one of them. I can see one.   As long as I go straight up from where I take off, I can follow it. I lose it about 250   feet.   And then I can't see it anymore, and I can go up to 400.   I can't see it. I can see it on my screen, but I can't see it above me in here.  

[01:58:48] Rich Chelson:

Well well, maybe they're making those drones to be big enough to deliver nuclear fucking warheads like they did in world war 2.  

[01:58:57] Duuude-Ron :

I'd have to be a big fucking drone, dude.  

[01:59:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah, I know. I was being kind of facetious.  

[01:59:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I mean, you've got, like, the military, like the prowler drone or whatever it is, the predator drone. But again, those are big enough that you can actually see. You're gonna also really fucking hear them. And a lot of these idiots are you know, it it's a ways away. They're going, well, you can't hear nothing. They're using alternative power or whatever. It's like,  

[01:59:22] Rich Chelson:

yeah.   No? But, anyway,   and I'll let you guys continue on with this argument.   The statement that my coworker said, what is the mother ship?   It is   a said   platform   to deploy   drone   or, drones, like you said Right. Earlier. That's   I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like,   I really fucking needed to know this goddamn fucking information?   I don't care.   Yeah. But now, we'll we'll let me get into the argument about the drones up in New Jersey.   No. Those are drones because the lights are   steady. They're not   moving.   Well, they are moving, but they're not moving like an aircraft does   at a particular   speed   if you're looking   comparing it next to a fixed point like a telephone pole.  

You know, they're they are hovering. Now do we know what the size is of? No. Are they over a said military   installation   up in New Jersey? Yes. They are. Why are they there?   I don't fucking know, and it ain't gonna affect,   who funds me, feeds me, or fucks me. So   really don't need to worry about it myself.   Right. Yeah. I don't Well, you guys can continue on with the argument.  

[02:00:48] Duuude-Ron :

I was gonna say, I the I I just found a video.   I I haven't watched the video. Just the title of it and just a clip.   It says a New Jersey congressman claims   Iran   is responsible.  

[02:01:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the that's the the mother. The congressman that I was talking about.   He he was a complete and total knob. Doesn't know.   I'm surprised he knows how to wipe his own ass because I'm sure he's running toilet paper across mouth more times than he uses. But,   but, you know  

[02:01:18] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you do know you do know New Jersey is built on a on a,   trash dump. Right? So, I mean,   some of the methane   gas have has bought them in mine   because, yeah, it says I   this guy is saying that Iran launched a mother ship probably about a month ago that contains   these drones. I'm like,   I'm sitting here thinking, okay.   First off,   you can't even get into an American airspace   with   an outside plane without being notified.  

[02:01:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[02:01:56] Duuude-Ron :

You can't.   You have to have you have to have a notification,   like a tail number or something like that. You just can't throw a drone up, you know, from   from from out in the Atlantic Ocean and then fly in American airspace and not tell nobody   because, yeah, shit's gonna get real quick.   So I you see, that's the thing.  

[02:02:20] Rich Chelson:

You know what would be you know what would be really funny to watch happen   is if there was a stationary drone, kinda like the one that you operate, and I know that they make them a lot bigger  

[02:02:31] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[02:02:32] Rich Chelson:

To have an a 10   come in there and just   smoke that motherfucker with a 30 millimeter cannon.   What the only problem in that aspect would be is they would have to go into an upper   shooting angle versus   a downward shooting angle because,   yeah, that would create a lot of fucking carnage on the ground.   Right. But that would be so fucking cool   to watch an a ten go after a drone with a fucking 30 millimeter cannon.  

[02:03:06] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, it would.   But   you say this you say that's the thing. This I I I don't why   why why are people   even the media, why is the media even even grasping onto this? Because,   one,   Iran   really doesn't have the fucking technology   for a mother ship.  

[02:03:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no. And it's not that that's just okay. There's a lot of different   there's obfuscation   that's going on. So you've got a lot of guys you've got some people who are, oh, yeah. It's this. It's it. It just, you know,   you've got someone off on over on the, over on the left, left hand side who's just yelling fire.   So you it gets people's attention. It's like, what? Oh, so you've I've heard this. Oh, well, there's this. And you get 17 different stories.   And so these 17 different stories, none of them are right   because what the truth is is they're wanting to   get p get this bill passed   so that they can so that they actually gain a little bit more power so that they can actually shut down DGI drones. If there are drones that are not,   that are not   legal within the US.  

Right.   And whatever that ends up mean. And that's what I'm trying to look for, and I can't even find the fucking bill number.  

[02:04:36] Duuude-Ron :

Hey. Hold on. Hold on a second. Let me ask you this. Okay?   How long, roughly,   I I'm not asking for an exact date because I I don't even know the exact date. But about how long   has the federal government been trying to ban DJI drones?  

[02:04:54] Bryan Goodwin:

No. See, about,   4 years now? 3, 4 years?  

[02:04:59] Duuude-Ron :

That's   that's about what I was thinking. About 3, 4 years.   Now   think about this. Okay?   And this is probably a bad analogy,   but I'm gonna use it.   They've been trying   to nail Donald Trump for about the same amount of time,   and they still can't get it done   because DJI   has turned over, been turning over   all of their information   to the federal government.   They've been telling them, showing them exactly what goes on.   And and nobody in the federal government  

[02:05:43] Bryan Goodwin:

wants to pay attention. Everybody wants to drink the fucking Kool Aid. Right. Okay. So this is what I still haven't found the actual drone the or the actual bill number yet. But, one of the sites,   my, my Suncoast, which is an ABC affiliate,   site, said that this bill will ensure that law enforcement has the technology needed,   to quickly and clearly identify exactly what is, what the reporting sightings of drones across the country actually are.   The senate bill would all would have also,   would have also enhanced   some federal agencies' authority to act on drones as well as started a pilot program to allow states' local authorities to disrupt,   disable, and seize a drone without prior consent of the operator.  

US Department of Homeland Security is,   c Schumer,   has also called for the US Department of Homeland Security to deploy better drone tracking technology to identify the drones and their operators.   So that's a failure on FCC or FAA,   whoever's supposed to be a part of that. So but FAA. But but, see, that's the thing.  

[02:07:00] Duuude-Ron :

The FAA has already instituted   the,   drone reporting   procedure   while in flight. Right. And and it's for drones that are over 250   grams.   In DJI,   most are smaller drones like the mini 2, mini 3, mini 4,   all like that. Those are under 250   grams, unless Right. Light on top, and then it becomes over 250. And then it goes into the next. So, basically, the part 107   flyers, the people that have taken the test   spent a 175   fucking dollars.   Basically, what what Schumer is trying to do   is to let,   police and and other agencies   decide, oh, you can't fly your drone. We're gonna take it and confiscate it. So you're losing out on a minimum   of $1200   minimum.  



[02:08:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Plus  

[02:08:03] Duuude-Ron :

your license   because   you can't use it. It'll just go to waste,   and it has to be renewed every 3 years at a $175   a whack.   Right. Okay? And then   you have to buy an American   drone,   which does not have the camera capability,   the flight time capability,   or the wind resistance capability,   or whatever. You know what I mean?   So it's like it's like   it's   it's like the gun control bills. They just wanna go after the AR fifteens   and not even deal with any other gun because, oh my god, the AR is scary.   You know? It's it's like   any gun in in in the hands of a skilled person   is a deadly weapon if it is used   in that manner. But 90 a 100% of   most of well, 99.9   percent of people that obtained guns legally   are not   in that class, but yet   they have rules and and laws against   the people who were,   law abiding citizens.  

This is what I'm saying is why are they going after the law abiding   citizens   that have gone and got the drones,   gone and got the licensing and and all this stuff and follow all the rules,   and they just wanna go take their shit.  

[02:09:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Because the the same reason as why TikTok has gotten banned.   TikTok has taken too much market share away from Google and Facebook.   If you follow the money, you'll see that Google and Facebook are behind   the the anti TikTok   bill that that got passed, and TikTok is now fighting. It's gotten until, like, 19th,   of January to get to get resolved or it's gone.  

[02:10:07] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I mean, okay. Okay. What are they saying about TikTok?  

[02:10:12] Bryan Goodwin:

What all the Because it is a, because it's owned by back dance, which is a Chinese company.   They're collecting too much information   about   American citizens   Because they collect, you know, where you're at, what you're doing, what's the position of your phone is, are you looking are you standing up, walking, are you moving, or laying down, are you what,   position of the phone, time of day, what it is you watch, what it is you'll you'll use   utilizing the camera, tip picking up a whole bunch of all the other sensory data that comes on a phone.   They're collecting all of that, and then it goes over to the ByteDance servers. The ByteDance servers then take it, send it over to,   over to China, and it's sent to the in a deal. That's one reason why,   TikTok, back when Trump was a   first time he was in in,   in all actually, even before that,   you you,   when,   military   wasn't allowed to have TikTok on their phones.  

Yeah.   Yeah, man. Because they collected location information and things like that, and they could quickly start figuring out, oh, hey. Look. This dude's,   this dude walks around in the in the, the Pentagon. He goes into the, you know, some of the inner rings there. And that's that's, that's an interesting, little tidbit of information.  

[02:11:30] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Well, let me ask this. So   what about some of these up other apps? They might not collect as much information. Oh, no. They collect as much. Google collects all the same type of information. Oh, I know. So, so you see again, what's the fucking difference?  

[02:11:46] Bryan Goodwin:

American and the American companies,   they want that market share. That's too many people are using TikTok   and they don't like that. You're taking money out of my out of my, my pocket.   Is this you know what? That is that is And it sounds weird. It sounds like I'm becoming a freaking communist because it's becoming it boils down to corporate greed.  

[02:12:09] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But and but but that's the thing. Check this out. That is their dumbass fault for not making a fucking product to outdo  

[02:12:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Tik TOK to. Right. Right. That's like the, like everybody who sued, sues Google for making too good of a damn search engine.  

[02:12:24] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Well,   I did read an article,   what months   months ago, months and after or something like that. Google has to split itself up.  

[02:12:35] Bryan Goodwin:

The, yeah. If it, if it doesn't, doesn't win the, the appeals. Yeah.  

[02:12:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Google search, YouTube. Google has to split itself up, you know, and that you see, that's the thing. You know? You see, this is what I don't get. And   these these   whoever, the government, whoever   are is   is making as big old stink about these Chinese companies, and these Chinese companies are just doing the same thing. Oh, yeah. Facebook,   YouTube,   everybody else does.   You know, precisely,  

[02:13:09] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, God forbid, you take out too. They got better at it than what Google did. And Google's Google and Facebook are going, Hey, we can't have that. And so they start a start a stink campaign of going, Hey, Hey, They're they're selling they're they're they're stealing the information, sending it over to, over to the Chinese authorities. They can spy on us.   And so all of a sudden, again, the law of large numbers kicks in, and all of a sudden, everybody's like, oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.   You know? And they started losing their head. Same thing with the DJI. DJI,   too damn good for the for the the drone manufacturers that right now, they wanna be able to sell more drones.  

Right? But to be able to do that, they gotta get DJI out of the picture.   So   let's get let's they they're sending all their information. They're using the exact same playbook that Facebook and Google used   and are on and are going to,   and are trying to kick them out with this with by putting this information or this this, this bill   into the, into the military spending   plan thingy, my boomer that they do. Yeah. This is bullshit too. But Oh, no. I agree. I agree. And that and I mean, like splitting up, of Google.   All you're doing is you're making a, an inferior product because now you're getting punished if you make something too fucking good. If everybody's using it,   then how dare you   make something so good that I can't make, I can't get my stuff that good. So how am I supposed to compete?  

Then you had to find something else to compete with.  

[02:14:43] Duuude-Ron :

Speaker one: Well, become transgender,   Change your gender.   I I I'm sorry. That was that was the first thing that come to my head when you know, because basically what you're saying is is, you know,   Yeah.   Yeah. You need to make something better to compete.   Nowadays,  

[02:15:05] Bryan Goodwin:

most of people are just changing their Yeah. Just changing gender. So, oh, okay. Well, I can't, I'm, I'm, I'm 530 second in the nation for, on men's swim team. So I wanna become a chick and I'll look that I'm some one of the better ones.  

[02:15:18] Duuude-Ron :

Right. I'm, I'm,   I'm in the top 30 now, you know?   You say that's the thing, though. You say and you say, this is what I don't get. Everyone's flipping out over these Chinese companies   when what did they do before these Chinese companies?   They just went to Google, Facebook, and all these others and bought the information.  

[02:15:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, they still do. And that's why that's why   Google and Facebook are throwing such a big fit   because they're losing advertisers   to TikTok.   They're losing money   because TikTok has a superior product. It is fit. It is meeting the desires   of,   Gen Alpha.  

[02:16:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, yeah. Gen Alpha, Gen Z, and  

[02:16:05] Bryan Goodwin:

whatever other Yeah. The zoomers and the and the millennials.  

[02:16:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But you say and you say that's the thing, you know, it's it's like people.   This is all   designed to keep you   at the bottom rung of life.  

[02:16:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. And I mean, there is an aspect to, to on TikTok. I don't know exactly if it how true it is.   But all I can do is I can if you pay attention to, like, on TikTok, you're sitting there watching a watching a video. You're seeing dumb stupid American stuff.   Right. And then you'll see an oriental,   video of someone from from, like, China or Japan or or somewhere in the Middle East or not Middle East, but, the Far East.   And they're doing something amazing.   Right. Now they're you're seeing them seeing them do,   you know, carve out some beautiful, intricate   type of carving or just   having some type of amazing skill that they're displaying.  

And you have Americans wandering around going, well, I think we ought to be able to use whatever bathroom we wanna use. And it's like,   there's more to life than fucking toilets. Alright?   Sorry. Yes. I understand you would like to be a girl, the with but you've got a slong. Alright? It's a very small slong, so it's more like a dingus.   And that's okay.   Uh-huh. You're still a boy   by all definition.   So, no, you cannot be a girl.   You cannot go off and go, I'm gonna have an addyctomy,   and that makes me a boy. No. No. It just makes you a chick with a dick.   That's all.  



[02:17:48] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[02:17:50] Bryan Goodwin:

And sadly, they're gonna find they a lot of them find out that, oh, I gotta   I gotta I gotta ding a ling now, but it doesn't fucking work.   Well, that that's your dumbass fault. Well, but they but they're everybody that is they're they're counseling with, just tell them, oh, yeah. We could put a give a penis to you, and and   be able to it'll be fully functioning.   No. It's not.   It's not fully functioning. You're not gonna be able to spooge   at all.   You do not have the proper equipment. You don't have a Cowper's land. You don't have a prostate gland. You're not gonna be able to fire anything. You're not even actually gonna be able to have an orgasm. You're gonna have something that might be kinda close to an orgasm, but you're not gonna have one.  

[02:18:40] Duuude-Ron :

Well, nowadays, most of them really don't wanna have that because, god forbid, that's nasty.  

[02:18:46] Bryan Goodwin:

No. That that's I mean, their sad part is is no one no one in that area   understands that when you   change your change your equipment,   the equipment doesn't work anymore.   Yes. You could put something inside of it,   and it functions   as kind of like what it's supposed to be.   Like an air pump or something? Yeah. You could put an air pump on the side, and you could   alright. There you go. You got a boner now,   but you're not gonna get off.   Well, you know, I don't know. It's gonna be like using a strap on. It's just kinda   is it good for you? Yeah. Okay.  

Well, I Yeah. And not not gonna feel you know, you're gonna have a it's gonna feel like, you know, using a knuckle or or your fingers.   You're not gonna you're not gonna, you know, you're not gonna blow your load because, you know, because of that.  

[02:19:44] Duuude-Ron :

See, I got nothing, dude. I got nothing, man.  

[02:19:49] Bryan Goodwin:

But see but again, it's   yeah. People are are   have   American they've they've they take them, the, you know, the the whole line of thinking of   that that's what Americans are after.   And while China, the   Chinese TikTok   is more of how look how great China is.   Yeah. With the occasional, look how stupid America is.   Yep. And so there's yes. There is gonna be some propaganda   put in there,   and they're really good with their algorithm.   I mean, they've got that algorithm thing dialed to a to a T to where, you know, they had to actually go off and say after 2 hours go, Hey,   you probably need to put this down and do something else.  



[02:20:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah, no, I,   I, I, I have read that where,   yeah, China. And I think, I think other countries,   kind of be like, Hey,  

[02:20:50] Bryan Goodwin:

you've been on here too long, you know, let's put Yeah. And it, it, people here in the US have gotten that, got that message a few tops.  

[02:20:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really? Oh,  

[02:20:59] Bryan Goodwin:

yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's they've they've kinda put it in there just as a kind of a let's let's not get ourselves sued because somebody died of a heart attack for 3 hour or, you know, 7 hours of upsetting and just thumbing through TikTok,   which I don't know if you after I I could do TikTok for about 30 minutes. And after that, it's like, really? This is stupid shit. This is nothing. I don't don't I and YouTube good.   Like, YouTube shorts,   is just it's just nothing more than than, than AI,   slop.   It's all AI bullshit now. It's like, oh, oh, look. Look, a real person.   Oh, okay. Okay. That was pretty cool. Oh, it's AI slop again. AI slop again. AI slop again. It's just slideshow with with somebody with, with an AI voice behind it. It's like now 27 ways on why you can, why you could stand on your hands.  

No one  

[02:21:57] Duuude-Ron :

cares. Say instead of, TikTok,   sometimes I have to be careful.   I mean, I'm not real bad with it, but sometimes, like, Facebook reels or YouTube Oh, yeah. I'll get caught on, you know, and I'll I'll watch, you know, I'll watch quite a few of them. I I mean, I don't know how many. I mean, it's not that long,   but, yeah, I'll, you know, watch the shorts or whatnot. But Yeah. After a while, it's like, yeah, I'm done. You know? It's like Yeah. I can't do it. You know? Because And I have I have to stay off of freaking Instagram because Instagram is  

[02:22:32] Bryan Goodwin:

a jiggle booby got me once.   And now that's all I have whenever I go to search for somebody and I hit the search button and it gives you all the, you know, it lets you explore other things.   There is nothing but row upon row, upon row, upon row   of women with jiggly tits.   What? And I mean, granted, it's kinda nice to look at for a moment, but at the same time, that's registering with the algorithm of, oh, hey. He likes to look at those. Well, don't shit. I'm a red blooded fucking American. I'm gonna look at tits. Alright? That they're flopping around in front of me. I'm going to be just like, oh, yeah. Follow the bouncing ball. Yeah. Uh-huh.  

[02:23:10] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Active, man. I mean, it's, it's a given, but it's a requirement.   Let's say that's the thing. Instagram,   I cannot stand in. In fact,   I won't even log in to my account on Instagram because   Instagram to me has gotten,   I don't know, just   trash.   And that's my opinion,   but it's, it's, I mean,   you know, it's, it's like   Pinterest with videos. I can't stand fucking Pinterest.  

[02:23:43] Bryan Goodwin:

I hate it. Oh, well, Pinterest is,   oddly, interestingly enough, Pinterest   where I'm getting a lot of my a lot of my website viewers.   Well, I no. That's awesome, dude. Working. But, but but again, it's just, because why is that? Because I I came across one,   group,   pin board   that was 4 men, and that's what it's called.   4 men.   Boom. That's all it is. And I take everything I have and I throw it up into there.   All my videos, all, you know, all my re, TikTok videos, all my,   all my blog posts, all my podcast episodes. Mhmm. I I just   every day, I'm trying to throw at least one thing up in there. And Right. It's starting to pay off. It's taken   4 years of work, but it's it's starting to pay off. You know?  

And so it and it's   but at the same time, it's   again, there's another one where I accidentally clicked on the clicked on,   a, a pen.   It didn't look like what it what it was until I brought it up closer. And then I was like, oh, wait a minute. Those are bare boobs.   And they were not clear bare bare boobs, but they were you know? Because the lady was supposed to be topless standing away, standing back it was a painting of a woman standing topless,   next to the, next to the shoreline.  

[02:25:11] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:25:12] Bryan Goodwin:

And all of a sudden, Pinterest.   Hey. Look. There's a tit. There's a tit. There's a tit. There's a tit. It's like, Jesus Christ, man. Okay. I I get it.   I gotta stop looking at boobs.   Everyone's talking about, hey. Hey. This dude likes boobs, man. He he likes   he's like, yeah. I like boobs, but I'm you know? There's more important things to me at times than   not much. There's not much more important than boobs. But   but I'll I'll preface that. Not much, but there, you know, there are a few things that are, you know, food. Give me food, you know?  

[02:25:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Food. Yeah.   Oh my god. Nah. And in a word   and in the words  

[02:25:54] Rich Chelson:

of Robin Williams,   as a man,   we spend   9 months   trying to get back or trying to get out   and the rest of the lives getting back in. Trying to get right back in.  

[02:26:11] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right?   So   yeah. No. I just that's why that's why, don't,   yeah. Yeah. Instagram used to be pretty cool,   but I don't know. They've   Instagram and Pinterest. Now I I   I doubt if I ever do anything on on either one of them site. Right. I tried to play with Pinterest for a minute years ago,   and   I you say,   I never understood   the whole pin board thing.  

[02:26:46] Bryan Goodwin:

It's   it's a it's a category  

[02:26:51] Duuude-Ron :

is what a pin board is. Well, I mean I mean, like like, okay.   With   with Pinterest, you know, I'd see something   and I'd look at it and I'd be like, yeah, that's cool. And then, like, pin it. So I pin it,   and then I saw, you know,  

[02:27:08] Bryan Goodwin:

thousands of other things of about the same thing. About the same yeah. Because all of a sudden, it's like, oh, okay.   Like, I have I have a pin board that's got several sub pin boards, set up on it, but it's I call it the man's house.   Okay. But hold on. Hold on. No. Hold up. Hold up. And so what I and from in there, I've got, like, backyard, living room, bathroom, kitchen, yadayaday, bath master, bathroom or bedroom, yadayadayada.   And so I'll as I see stuff, I'll throw it in there. But but, like,   like,   I'll if I put, like, 2 or 3 posts or pins of bathroom stuff that I see, all of a sudden, I'm flooded with bathroom stuff. And it's like, okay. Alright. We, you can only put so much rugged bathroom stuff.  

And so yeah. It it that's part of the algorithm of where it Okay. Okay. Hang on. Hang on now. But what's the point of it all?   Some of it a lot of it is just to  

[02:28:08] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, I'm not  

[02:28:10] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm not trying to sound facetious. I'm being honest. No. No. I it and I'm trying to think of the best way to   because what it is, it's a bookmarking pro system is what I use it as.  

[02:28:21] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:28:22] Bryan Goodwin:

So if I find something   online that I like, a lot of times I will take it and I will pin it onto a, onto a I'll pin it to my Pinterest.   And that's kind of what it's meant to be for,   but it's become more marketing now.   So you have everybody trying to throw their stuff up there and   draw your attention.   And that's how it actually works. It started out as just a like I said, it was just a book it's kind of a bookmarking program.   It was almost like,   Delicious.  

[02:28:59] Duuude-Ron :

I have no clue what that is. You don't remember delicious?  

[02:29:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope. Okay. It was a it was a website, man. It was   d l e,   d   e l I s a   dotus,   Delish us.   So and so it was but it was a bookmarking program, so you could just go through and you could actually you had a little,   little bit of JavaScript that you could actually save on your,   on your on your bookmark bar.   And you could actually as you went to a site and you saw something you liked, you could just hit the delicious button, and it would actually just take all that information, transfer it over to Delicious, and you could choose which folder you wanna place it in.   And then Pinterest came along, and it was a lot more visual. All of a sudden, you had these very tall images that were   worked better for for Pinterest. And so and that's where it became a lot more popular   because it's more of a visual orientation instead of just being, okay. Well, you know   Okay. Big hooter mo big hooter chicks,   dot com. You know? It's like it goes underneath the the lots of boobs.  



[02:30:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You see, that's where that that's where if I wanted to save that, I just bookmark the website.  

[02:30:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. And that's what that You know? That's what Pinterest start was. It's just bookmark site.   But Yeah. But I do it in a browser, man. I don't Well, yeah. And and, but and see, and that's,   that was before   Chrome   really became Chrome,   where you had   your your bookmarks were all saved up in the cloud now.   Okay. True. So now if you bookmark something, you really don't need to throw it over into Pinterest because you've got you've already it's already saved in the cloud. Next time you log in, next time you slick your hard drive, you reinstall Chrome and you in, log back into Google. Poof. Right. All right off the bat. Everything's back in there. Right. Right. Okay. It just, yeah. See, cause Pinterest, me and Pinterest never got along. And then   it, it didn't never got along with me for the longest damn time either.  



[02:31:16] Duuude-Ron :

And, and Instagram.   I mean, at first I saw, I saw Instagram   as something pretty good before Facebook bottom, but after Facebook bottom,   they just went downhill.  

[02:31:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I can never look at it before Facebook bottom because they were   strictly iOS   at that time.   No. Instagram. No. No. No. Instagram   was strictly iOS.  

[02:31:43] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really? Yeah.  

[02:31:45] Bryan Goodwin:

And   then short and shortly   after,   Facebook bottom, that's when they actually opened the gate. It it it went ahead and added a and a,   Android.   And that's when it really took off. And that's when it was still good. It was still a Yeah. Photo sharing site. It's like, hey, took a picture of my bacon and eggs. There there you go. And people liked it and went and they liked it.   And then it became all of a sudden, again,   has everything. The marketer showed up and was like, how can we market with, with with Instagram?   Well, don't.  



[02:32:22] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. Don't. Leave it out of there, you know? And that's well, and and just like with And I understand why they do, but at the same time, don't.   Yeah. No. You see, that's the thing. You know,   it seems like marketers   wanna put their hands into everything that's good.  

[02:32:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Well,   they do because that's where everybody's at.  

[02:32:45] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I yeah. I get that. You know, I I get freaking mechanics of it, but still at the same time, it's like,   let us have   the choice   to   if we wanna see it or not.   Yeah. Or let us turn it off   if we want.   You know? And then if we don't, then they'll just run their ads.   But, oh, no. You can't do that.   It would make Right. You know, because, I mean, I do read some ads. You know? I do look Oh, yeah. Some ads, but   I don't wanna see an ad, you know, after watching 2 videos.  

[02:33:27] Bryan Goodwin:

You know, every Or or YouTube, you know, you've got a 5 minute video and you see 5 different ads. It's like, God, fucking bless.   That's true. At the beginning,   2 minutes in, got one, another 2 minutes after that, you got another one, and then you got 2 at the end of son of a fucking bit. Are you really seriously going to hit me with that many fucking ads? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they wonder why people   look for that skip button.  

[02:33:54] Rich Chelson:

Right. Hell, yeah. I'll fucking hit that thing in a damn   nanosecond.   And, you know, they have the ads in the video that you're watching, and then you're scrolling up. You got   a a video, then a group of ads, a video, group of ads, a group of ads, a bit it's like, damn. Yeah.  

[02:34:12] Duuude-Ron :

That's why that's why I pay 9.99 a month. So Oh, do you? Yeah. I do. I I I've been doing it for a while because   of that reason right there is because of the fucking ads. Oh, you if you've been doing it for a while,  

[02:34:27] Bryan Goodwin:

I challenge you to drop that for a month.   I know.   Because it has gotten in its last last couple years   has just   gotten in fucking sane, man.  

[02:34:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, I've seen I've seen I've seen, other people bring up YouTube videos trying to show me a video.  

[02:34:48] Bryan Goodwin:

And like you said, a 5 minute video takes 20 minutes because of all the fucking ads. Yeah. You got ads, ads, ads. And then if you scroll backwards, because you're oh, what did they say? Scroll back. Oh, well, shit. Gotta watch an ad again. Oh, wait a minute. We're gonna scroll forward. Oh, shit. Gotta watch an ad again. Oh, let's, you know, gonna pause it for, for, 5 minutes so I can go pee real quick, come back. Oh, goddamn. Gotta watch another ad again.   Yeah. It's like, Jesus Christ. Alright. I get it. You wanna use ads. Somebody said,   Google,   or YouTube,   YouTube ads are really cheap.  



[02:35:22] Duuude-Ron :

That was 5 years ago, dude. It's not cheap no more. No. It's not. Yeah. No. And that that's I mean, that's why I can't.   I just I can't. I mean, yes, it's $10 a month. I don't wanna pay it, but I would never watch YouTube ever.   I mean,   you know, I mean, I don't hardly watch it now as it is anymore.  

[02:35:45] Bryan Goodwin:

That's about all I really watch, honestly, is   videos on YouTube. I like watching,   Simon Whistler has got a he he's got a whole little network that he, of different, channels that he does. He does, like, info, War Graphics,   does,   side projects,   Dark   Side,   like, 5 or 6, different,   shows kinda like that where he just kinda breaks stuff down   about a particular topic.   Fascinating. Love I mean and it's and he does it with a British accent, which and and so it makes it really cool.   So there's there's he does a lot I like a lot of what he does,   and then there's   set I've gotten I'm starting to get really tired of him, but, you have, like, Endymion,   and he's talking about,   talking about gamer gate 2, and and, and he's putting up a really good fight against,   oh, what is the,   I can't remember the name of the, the consulting group,   but,   bunch of wokies that are, that are going through and just completely,   completely,   destroying the,   the the modern gaming industry and stuff by making, you know, shit games.  



[02:37:10] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. You mean you like Atari?  

[02:37:14] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. Like, like like,   oh, it's not Dustbin. It's, Dustborn. Dustborn. Fucking game Got it. Was was   built   on a grant given by the government   back in 2020,   right? When all the, the woke bullshit just broke open.  

[02:37:33] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:37:35] Bryan Goodwin:

And they're, the, the whole premise of this game is how well can you protest?   See what see if I could find a dustbin map because the   the dustbin map helps,   or not dustbin, dustborn.  

[02:37:52] Duuude-Ron :

That   that's a liberal,   people that, approved that game.  

[02:38:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. It was very much see. Alright. So you have   the the premise is and it's it's a really lame Life is Strange style, which Life is Strange is also a, a very   crappy,   game. But,   so you had, like,   instead of calling California, they call it Pacifica. You start out basically in the, in the San Francisco area.   You travel,   travel across the,   the provinces.   Giant planes,   the it's one of the areas Jeff Cross is the Giant Plains exclusion zone.   Yep.   And,   see here was the territories.   I can't read what that says.   Yeah. They have, like, the great northern wall of, of Canada.   I mean, it's just everything about it is,   you got,   Yeah. The the heartlands east. You got more justice and it's all the social justice warrior if social justice warriors   were able to have a fever dream   of crappy of a crappy game,   Dustborn was it. Because instead their their whole fighting mechanics   were different ways that you could actually protest against something.  



[02:39:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god.  

[02:39:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:39:35] Duuude-Ron :

Let's see. Hopefully. Again, I'm sitting here looking through your trying to We have to sit in. We're gonna link arms and sit in front of traffic.  

[02:39:46] Bryan Goodwin:

You see, death born combat.  

[02:39:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I say that you say that you say that's the thing. You know? And now I will say I've noticed,   ever since   November,   things about the woke side of liberalism   has really calmed down.  

[02:40:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. No. They've they've realized they've lost. They're trying to try to try to pull a Homer Simpson and back back into the duh into the bushes   so you don't notice them. Right.   And they're try well, they're trying to pull the same crap as what, is what the communist in in Russia did.   You know, as soon as, you know,   whenever the, whenever Russia fell,   you know, we were all, Hey, all right. We beat the communist. All right. Communist are gone. Well, we didn't ever pay attention anymore.   So the world that we're in, sadly, I have to, I, and my wife gets pissed about this, but it's gen X's fault.   We were too busy, you know,   beating our own chest, you know, doing our own thing.  

Oh, yeah. To be paying attention to what in the hell the teachers were teaching kids.  

[02:41:01] Duuude-Ron :

True. Very true.  

[02:41:03] Bryan Goodwin:

And so   we, we caused this.   Yes. We did. Because we had our heads up our asses.   Mhmm. And it it's sad, but we luckily, we pulled our heads out of our ass and we've gotta be vigilant.   We can't just go back to going, alright. Well, I'm just gonna sit around here and do, do my own thing, make my own money.   It's no, we've gotta   do our own thing, make our own money. Make sure the fucking mokies stay in the trash.  

[02:41:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   No. No. No. That   that and why   why does your wife get upset about that?  

[02:41:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, because she's gen x and she's like, well, it wasn't. I didn't do that.   Everybody did. You specific you know, it she takes it very personally.   And it's like, it's not you   personally,   gen x   as a whole, as the as everybody who was born from, like, what is it? 65   to,   to to 79 or something like that?  

[02:42:04] Duuude-Ron :

I think so. Let me look.   It's either 65 or,   69.   But yeah. No. It's true. And and I mean, you see yeah. Oh, no. 65 to 80   is gen x.   So everyone born between 1965   1980   is a Gen x. Right. And yes. We   failed   as a generation in the late eighties,   mid to late eighties   because that was when they started feeding,   the bullshit in schools.   And we started   diverting away from   the values that we were raised with because, oh my god, life was just so fucking hard.   My kids cannot go through that   when 30 years later,   when the kids grow up,   they realize that, yeah, I probably shoulda had a little more discipline.  

Jet though. A lot more discipline. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. I know. I was  

[02:43:14] Bryan Goodwin:

I know. I was being nice. You know? Right. No. I understand. I understand. But, anyhow, here is,   see. Cortico. Oh, damn it. I just lost it. Is that me?  

[02:43:26] Duuude-Ron :

But see, the thing is though, is is is the freaking millennials, which is from 1981 to 1996,   even though the they finally wake up and say, well, I probably shoulda had a lot more discipline in my life.   They still raise their kids   with the same   thing that that a gen x did. Oh, we're too hard on our kids. We  

[02:43:52] Bryan Goodwin:

we don't want our kids to have Yeah. Oh, we should we left our my parents left me behind,   and had to be a latch key kid and and I shouldn't have to do that to my child. And so yeah. And, no, that's that's sorry. But, no, that's the whole like the mom in in,   in Georgia that got arrested because she let her her son walk a mile into town.   Right.   So but hang on. Here's here's the,   the the,   a a synopsis of what,   Dustborn is about. You play as Pax, an exile   con artist,   a nominal   with the which I don't know what the hell that means, but with the ability to weaponize language. You look for new looking for a new life and a way out. Pax has,   been hired to transport an important package for Pacifica to Nova Scotia   across the justice controlled American Republic.  

Sounds like a legit reason for road trip. Right? So you pack your bags of simple crew, take,   take your own peculiar powers, and get ready to travel across the country. So and then it's, you know,   exploring the stunning neo western landscape of an alternative history American on a robot driven tour bus that stop at dozens locations along the road to build your crew, manage relationships complete. Mission is facing increasingly difficult challenges, but the people you stole the package from won it back in the authorian authoritarian justice hot on your hill so you don't forget to pack your baseball bat. Oh, yeah. And you're traveling undercover as a punk rock band, so you'll definitely need to brush up on your musician gigs,   skills before the next gig. So   it's like, what? What the hell is any of this? And   it's   I'm I still can't find the,   the   they've got a list of   the damn,   battle system because the battle system is just   freaking atrocious.  



[02:45:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, yes, they do. Just   just even the   the the small bit I heard.   And and it's it's   it's not a cape   game to keep anybody's attention.   You know?  

[02:46:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Yeah. Oh, they call them innovative trigger mechanics.  

[02:46:12] Duuude-Ron :

Call what?  

[02:46:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, their fighting system.   Like,   like, one of the ways you attack is you call people, like, racist or, or a bigot or a homophobe or something. Stuff like that. It's like, really? Really? That's that's that's the,   that that's how you,   that's how you play play the game.   Oh, someone, yeah, someone called it, awoke simulator.  

[02:46:39] Duuude-Ron :

Wow. So And see that and see and and, honestly, I don't I don't see how   that game would   would even make any money,   to be honest with you.  

[02:46:52] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, who would It didn't. Oh, it didn't make any it didn't make any money. It failed miserably.  

[02:46:57] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. I was gonna say because  

[02:46:59] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean I mean, let's But that's what and that's exactly what I mean. Sweet Baby, Inc is the, is the name of the, of the consulting company I was thinking of. But now they're they're part,   size games like that,   there was,   the star wars,   outlaws   has struggled and failed because, again, you know, feminism and the whole woke agenda   is   has nothing to do with   equality for women.   It's let's make women ugly so, it's possible so that, you know, the guys who wanna be women   don't feel bad because they look like dudes in dresses.   Right. Yeah. We've talked about that. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about that a lot. But, again, that's that's all,   accumulates in. So,   star wars,   outlaws   sucked as a game. You had,   the   Sony,   PlayStation game cup that, called Concord.  

It ran for, like, a month,   month and a half, and then they were like, shut it all down. Shut it down. Shut it all down. No one's playing it. It's like, you know,   at the height of it was only like a couple of 100 people playing at a time.   Right.   It was a horrible, terrible failure because one, there's no compelling story. 2, they copied   damn near, you know, almost beat for beat from, from another game,   that,   hero shooter type of game.   And it's just a it was a,   no imagination.   And and was just, it was it was shit. A lot they've been cranking shit out left, right, and center.   Been several games that have just come at well,   a good example is, like,   is the, Spider Man Miles Morales.  

Spider Man Well, actually not Miles Morales. Spider Man 2. Because, Spider Man 2,   by Insomniac Games, you would think, who are you gonna be playing as?   You think you're gonna play as Peter Parker as as Spider Man. Right?   For the first part of the game. Yeah.   And then you change over to Spider Man Miles Morales.   And And see, it's just it was a it was a hand off to to the to just   to to get the the   Spider Man Miles Morales   line to to be played. And Miles Morales didn't do very well either.   Yeah. What's that? Everyone bought Spider Man 2 because there was like, oh, right. Yeah. Because Spider Man 1. Amazing game.   The mechanics, the swinging, the way you shots   shot your webs, the way you battled all bad guys, all the, the rogue's gallery and everything was just a phenomenal game.  

Right. And then Spider Man 2 comes along and it's a, it's a, you know, it was a,   bait and switch. Like, oh, yeah. It must be   oh, wow. Okay.   I guess we'll be Miles Morales then, and, you know, it's   had expectations for one thing. Now if they'd tried putting out, you know, just Spider Man Miles Morales   Yeah. Because, I mean, Miles Morales, it does good. I mean, you go to,   Spider Man across the, Spider Verse, and you watch both of those both of those,   movies.   Great little movies. I like both of them.   They centered around Miles Morales.  

[02:50:40] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:50:41] Bryan Goodwin:

But when you go off and you   pull a bait and switch, like, like, Spider Man 2, no, no one cares for it.   Right. And there's a lot of those going on. And then you have hit games that come out like, stellar blade where all of a sudden you've got a good looking oriental chick with big boobs and and jiggle physics.   Right. And   the media is going, hell no. We can't be doing this. This is a terrible, horrible piece of a piece of crap of a gang, except this horrible, terrible piece of crap of a gang has got a story to it.   Right. You've got a great objective as to you've got a reason why   you're following this girl who's in a in a skin tight suit and things go jiggly.  

Then you have, black myth wukong.   Well, you know, again, they were talking about how terrible that game was and how terrible the studio was. Well, first off, the studio is a Chinese studio,   so their culture,   of stuff is completely different,   but they didn't, they had a whole bunch more   men who were being, who were programming than they had   women,   disabled women, disabled women of color who are trans, you know, and that that type of stuff.   And so it also has a great story. Hell, it's got a story that's something like 500 years old or something like that. It's based on an old novel   called journey to the west. And you're this monkey king that, that goes off and has to battle all these different, different demons and monsters and stuff. And it's a great game. Everybody's talked about how and it sold gangbusters.  

You had hell divers, hell divers too. Again,   didn't wasn't catering   to   the woke.   It was catering to, hey. Who's going to play this damn game?   Right? A bunch of dudes that wanna go off and vaporize a bunch of bugs. All right, sweet, sign me up. And it did great. And they kind   of ventured away, pulled away from the crowd for a little bit and they saw their numbers fall like a rock.   And so they tried to get back underneath it and they've done a pretty good job. They brought it back up.   But again, you know, when you try to   bend   the knee to the, to the woke, they're going to take your life.  

They're going to take your very soul and everything because they're wanting to do stuff to what makes them feel good. It's not about, well,   what is this, what's this show about? Oh, no. We don't care about what it's about. We wanna make sure that we we represent ourselves. It's like, well, no one cares about you.   Yeah. But the thing is we allow it. No one stands up. Well, yeah. Well, a lot of people the the the businesses allow it. The the the,   the board members allow it because   that's again, one of the problems that I have with,   with,   with today modern corporations is they have started using something called a,   an activist   member, board member.  

So somebody could go in, they can get a whole bunch of,   they buy up a whole bunch of shares and they go, all right, well, since,   we've got, you know,   the 2nd highest number of shares in, in the company,   we would like to, put in a new board member, and it is, you know,   it is,   Suzanne Arnold,   Josephus,   and, she is a an activist for women's rights.   Doesn't do shit with video games, but, you know, or or   Coke or beer.   History and why Dylan Mulvaney got put in got the deal   that he got   was because   of this of these activist,   board members.  

Well, we need to have more representation. Well, when the things show that we, this direction we need to go. And so you get enough of those in there. Yeah. They're gonna steer. I mean, come on. You've got   activist board members in Chevron.   Chevron is leaving the oil industry.   The very business   model that's got them to where they are. They're going, yeah. We're not gonna be doing that no more. We're not gonna go into the energy sector no more.   That's fine. Let it Then what the fuck are you gonna exactly. Well, they're gonna they they will, and they'll they're gonna crumble, and they're gonna get bought up by by, you know, British Petroleum or or or something like that.   Standard Oil or whoever. You know? Standard yeah. I don't even know if Standard Oil is even around, is it?  

Man. Hey. We're all old. I remember back when Standard Oil was first, was first drilled.  

[02:55:44] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, it would not surprise me if standard oil was still going. I don't think it is. I think it was bought up by,  

[02:55:52] Bryan Goodwin:

let's see here.  

[02:55:56] Duuude-Ron :

Say,   no.   They're not.   It was,   actually, it says it was dissolved in 1911.  

[02:56:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I know it was it was a long while back.   But, yeah, you have ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP.  

[02:56:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I mean, you've got others. I mean, so you say and that's the thing. You know? It's like you say this I I I don't know. This is me. It's like, who gives a fuck what these companies do because we have so many other companies   that are willing to step up and   deliver what we need to deliver,   you know. Yeah.   We don't need Chevron.   We don't   need these companies with,   woke activists   on on the board members. You know, bud you know, Budweiser?   Budweiser is owned by a fucking Venezuelan   company. It's not even American owned anymore.  

[02:56:55] Bryan Goodwin:

So No. No. I mean, a lot of, the big American companies aren't owned by Americans anymore. That's just that's that's a sad fact.  

[02:57:02] Duuude-Ron :

I know. And see, that's the thing. So it's like so it's like, if these companies wanna do this, fine. Let them do this.  

[02:57:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Let them do whatever the fuck they want. Let's just go to other companies, plain and simple. And that's and now you're stepping into the whole reason why I am all about laws a fair capitalism.   Let the government get the hell out of our way.   First off, if you a   lot of people, when you say that, they're going, well, what about what about monopolies?   Well, it's kinda like kinda like, Google. Google's a monopoly on search. Yes. There is there is Bing   and and,   and that's fine.   Perplexity   a dot ai is trying to trying to make a deal. Right. No one holds a candle to Google when it comes to search. And search is great. Granted, it's   it's there's   in all reality, I've tried I'm starting to kinda jump over to Bing.  

Bing seems to be a little more   relevant to what I'm after these days.   But at the same time, I still kinda go over just to Google just because it's my go to place. I have my email and everything else in there. Right. And So No. That's fine. But still,  

[02:58:17] Duuude-Ron :

numbers for numbers,  

[02:58:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Google Yeah. Google's still Oh. Still number 1. Yeah. And you people will go, well, that's a monopoly. We shouldn't have a monopoly. Right?   They're making it they're making the the most money. They're the only one. Well, because they'll jack the prices up. No. They can't.   The moment the prices start trying to go up and you do not allow   the the businesses, there should be a a constitutional amendment   to where there is a separation   of state and business.   Businesses can't stick their fingers in the, in, in the government, and the government can't stick their fingers in in the,   in the in the businesses,   business.  

It's not gonna fly. Well, I know that wouldn't fly because that's every that's the whole reason that liberals, throw a fit.   But if they were to do that,   then anytime a business   got really popular   and became and tried to raise their prices   as a monopoly,   that way, they would open up the doors for other guys to come in and undercut them.   Right. And so they could undercut them and start to pull away market share. So they'd have to keep the prices low.   Oh, no. But also would have to have that, best product that you could do   because if they tried to go low prices   and shitty product,   then you could have somebody come in here with a little bit better product   that paid a little bit more or charged a little bit more, but could do it, for or even equal.  

And all of a sudden, again, start robbing taking taking market share   with Google. You know, if they started just kinda half assing or started trying to trying to hide,   you know, search results from people,   try started really manipulating the search results to where, hey, we're going to do just strictly liberal stuff.   A conservative could come in and go, alright. Well, I'm gonna start up my own search engine   and start hammering away at it.   And, yeah, the first 5, 6, 8 years, it would probably be the biggest,   nastiest dumpster fire you ever come across.  

But eventually, they would have collected enough enough, information   spidering across the web   Right. Where they could actually share all that in frame. I'd love to go off and do a, have a, have a new show.   Do a, do a,   a, a, a,   news channel, a cable news channel   with the whole premise of   you sit down, you have a,   you have a liberal,   reporter.   You have a conservative reporter   and the news that they report, they actually have to agree that they, that they've got all the details in there.   I may only be able to put out one news article   once a month.  

If you're lucky. And that's if the, and that's if we can agree that the senator's name is Bob   and not Robin.   And that might be all we get. We have a senator named Bob. All right. Hot damn. We got an agreement.   But you could come up with some decent incentives, you know, every, every article that you put out that y'all both agree and we show and you have to show your, your,   your receipts.   Well, I've got a, I've got an anonymous anonymous source. Well, I'm sorry. Then that don't count.  

[03:01:51] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, that's the thing. Why don't, you know, why didn't   why don't you have one from each?   Okay.   And both of them write the pros and cons,   unbiased   pros and cons of the subject matter.  

[03:02:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, because it would be fun to watch them have to squirm against each other.   You've got, you have the left put, you know, maybe   the left,   the liberal reporter starts off their their they'd get a, they get a a   a scoop, and so they ride it out. Alright? Well, they're team member, and they would be teamed together.   Then he gets it and goes through and says, okay. Here's the the information that I have. And he he adds his bits   with, with, you know, with receipts. You have to prove that this is where this this was given at. So to go off and say, well, we've got a fire in the, in in the Lincoln tunnel.   Alright. Where's the proof that there was a fire in Lincoln tunnel? Alright. We got pictures   and we have this and we've got 3 stories from this person, 3 stories from these people. And so, yeah, we were able to cooperate to go back and actually do, you know, actual full   true   journalism instead of all the just sensational, wow, we're gonna talk about this. It's like, no, I think if you were just to lay out, here's the facts.  

You get to decide what,   what those facts mean. This is the facts. This is the facts. This is the facts of all this. You decide. There are   lights in the air. Some people say they're, they're,   UFOs. Some people say, here's where we got proof. They're UFOs.   Some people say they're, they're drones. Here's proof of what drones. Here's the, some people say their planes. Here's the proof of the planes here is where the money for those drones are coming from.   You know, for all these stories are coming from, follow this, that'd be the, the number one mantra.   Follow the money.  

I don't care what else you find out, but tell me where that money is,   started out at where's the money going and how does it tie into this story? Right.   Because that would, that would fuck everybody up.  

[03:04:06] Duuude-Ron :

It would. It would because they would bring and but you see, though, the thing is the American people,   well,  

[03:04:15] Bryan Goodwin:

they They would start. They would yeah. At first, they would be, you would have the liberals going, oh, I ain't about watch it. They they've got conservatives on there. And the conservatives would be going, I ain't gonna watch it. They've got the liberals on there. This is another bunch of liberal trash. And then eventually, they'd be going, oh, wait a minute.   They're they're they're, well, they're, technically, they're right.   Well, that's okay. That's the those are the facts.   But then they would have to struggle with the, well, what do I make that mean?   And that's where a lot of people would struggle because they actually go to   the news sa sources   to understand, well, what am I supposed to make this information mean?  

Well, you're supposed to be outraged because, you know, the teachers are are   not reciting the present, the the pledge of allegiance. Wow. That's just wrong.   You know? And so they the that's part of the commentary of   Fox, both Fox   and and CNN, m m and MSNBC.   They that's what they're doing is they're just telling you, hey, you need to be outraged about this.   You need to be outraged about this, and this is why you should be outraged.   And so they got both sides going, no, you know, grabbing pitchforks, running at each other,   When in all reality, it's, you know,   none of that.  

That's half of the story.   And there's the, there's the conservative side of the story. There's the liberal side of the story. And then there's the real side of the story, which is, oh, Hey, look, They're wanting the drone. They're trying to get rid of the drones so that,   the government can only can only use drones to spy on you.   And if people all of a sudden heard that, they'd be like, woah. What?   Why are you spying on me? Yeah. You don't need to spy on me.   What happened to the, you know, to the, the illegal searches and seizures clause? Well,   well, well, we let that one go a couple years ago because y'all weren't paying attention.  

So,   but anyhow, so,   oh, 10 o'clock.   So anyhow,   so guys   wanna say thank you very much for, taking the time and listening to us, if you ever, and kinda go off on our own little,   little,   conspiracy theory that we have about what these drones are all about this year   and, at the end of this year. So,   but anyhow, if, we, this show is a   value for value show, which means that we do everything that we do,   we do   basically just to entertain you. Entertain us. We do it, we actually do it just so that we have a chance to be all 3, be able to just talk bullshit together, share ideas, share thoughts, and to have a good time with it. But at the same time,   if you find value in it, that's great. We're so glad that you do. I'm glad that you were listening. Glad you're hearing what we have to say.  

And if you agree, awesome. If you don't, awesome. You can let us know. You can shoot both me and Rich, an email over find   is,   circlecast, that's circlecast,   [email protected],   or you can shoot an email over to rich. That's rchelson,   and that's   [email protected]   also.   And let us know. Let us know where we're right, where we're wrong, where you think we, need to   needing to start looking, at,   for more information. Love to hear, see what type of information you've got that you could send our way. Love to be able to have that type of conversation.   And, but also we do our show, like I said, value for value, And we do it through podcasting 2 point o standards. So we got a if you're using a current and modern   podcasting app, like,   like Fountain   or   Podcast Guru,   These are these are apps that allow for extra features to be,   to show up on the app. Like, our app, our if you go to our page on podcast guru, down at the bottom, you actually see   other podcasts that we listen to.  

This is called the pod roll. Rate, means of being able to help y'all come across some other shows that y'all might actually like to listen to.   They're I don't think any of them are are longer than than than 3 hours like ours. Most of them about 30 minutes to an hour is all. So, you know, we can give you a little bit of a late if you're only just going to, to the the store and back, then, you know, there you go. You got a little 30 minute,   show you can listen to.   But,   this,   we also   doing this type of stuff isn't,   isn't free. We actually have server charges and things like that. And the time that it takes for us to to get all everything all all taken care of, sorted up, and and chopped up and and disseminated out.  

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We can just go through, set up the the chapters, and and be good.   So you've got we have time in that fashion. We also have talent. So if you are   good at doing,   like, graphics art, I always like to use graphic artists because, well, that's a that's a skill that I   sorta have, but it ain't good.   And so if you're a graphic artist and you wanna help make,   make chapter art,   you can also do help us do that. You can set up chapter art, send it to us, and then we'll put it up for the different chapters.   So there's a lot of different things that you can do that can help us out and to help us become better. And the last thing is actually treasure. And this is where you can,   also on podcasting 2 point o apps, there is usually a support this show button. Somewhere,   Podcast Guru, they add it a little bit,   But there's a lot of them have a support this show button and you can hit that. And a lot of times it brings up a,   a PayPal site   that you can actually go through and you can donate your little green,   certificates of appreciation,   showing us, hey. Thanks for the hard work you're doing. Thanks for what you're doing, and here's here's a little, little bit of money to help offset the cost of the, servers and and so on and so forth.  

So we have that those are the 3 different ways that you can help. And so   if you don't don't have the time or money to be able to do something, but you got a little bit of time, hey, you can go ahead and just,   jump over and and reach out to us and say, hey. I'd like to try to help in some way. How can we how can I help? Love to be able to point you in a direction and go, hey, we'll do this.   And and let you, just run,   run hog wild with it. So   that is that is what we what we do. And so I wanna say thanks again for, for listening and and hearing what we say. And if you come across anything that you like,   share this out. Share this with your your friends, your family, your your,   your the guy that that annoys you at work.  

Share it with anybody and everybody. Put it up on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,   x,   Mastodon,   Blue Sky,   wherever it is you wanna put this up on. I love to have it, shared out as with as many people as we can. So, guys, with that, I wanna say thanks so much, for listening one more time. And, Rich, what do you got to say?  

[03:12:37] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, not much. I just I just wanna thank everyone for listening,   that's still listening,   and that it makes it for our marathon sessions. And, yeah, we just love to get together   and just basically talk about anything and everything. And like Brian said, shoot us an email   whether we're doing good, bad, or if there's a subject you want us to   talk about. You know? And you can send Brian an email at circle   [email protected],   or you can send me, rchelson   atgmail.com.   Send me an email.   And if you would love to hear dude's answer,   just send me or Brian an email, and we'll make sure the dude gets it. And   we will get his,   reply,   whatever that may be for for whatever day. So, yeah,   do not hesitate. Like Brian said, share this out with your friends, family,   you know,   someone you hate. You know? They might find us hilarious, or   they might wanna start something. Hey. We'll listen to them. We'll we'll talk with them. It's trust me. We are all very   opinionated   in one way   or fashion.  

I probably screwed that up. But, anyway,   you know,   either way, guys,   gals,   people,   old, young, new,   I don't care.   Just thank you for listening. Have a great week. And,   are we on next week, Brian? Because, it's the day after Christmas.  

[03:14:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Sorry. I am going to I'm gonna say no.  

[03:14:29] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[03:14:30] Bryan Goodwin:

I didn't I didn't mean to put you on the spot, but I I had just thought about it. Just No. It's something I hadn't thought of yet. So but, yeah, I'm gonna say no because I'll be an MRO. And so I'll have a dog thrown.   Hopefully, I don't have a dog shitting all over the damn place again. So Well, yeah. Let's hope not. No. So,  

[03:14:49] Duuude-Ron :

so are we good for the 2nd January then. Right? Yeah. Yeah. We are. Yeah. I figured as much. Okay. Alright, everybody. Well, guess what?   We're gonna take this will drop Monday. We're gonna take next week off, and then we'll be back on the second January of   2025.   And I know, a lot of you are probably gonna be like, oh my god. I made it to 25. I didn't think I was going to, but you never know. Anyway,   thank you all for listening, y'all.   Have a great and merry Christmas.   And,   dude, what have you got?  

[03:15:25] Rich Chelson:

Well, I'm a not that you guys didn't have a good amount of information to say, but I'm gonna say keep mine nice and short and sweet.   I can't top anything of what Brian and Rich has said, so I'm just gonna say again, thank you very much for, listening to our podcast. If you enjoy it, please give us a shout out, and we will definitely   bring up your comment on the show. And let us know how we're doing. Good, bad, difference.   Good, bad, or ugly.   It doesn't matter   because we will like you, hate you, or   vice versa, either way.   So   y'all have a great evening.  



[03:16:08] Bryan Goodwin:

So guys, with that, we'll go ahead and we will, sign off, and y'all take care.   Gentlemen, appreciate y'all being up here again, and we will see y'all here in 2 weeks. Till then.   Bye.  

[03:16:21] Duuude-Ron :

Later.  

[03:16:23] Rich Chelson:

Peace out.