Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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(00:00:00) Introduction and Technical Issues

(00:16:00) Military Stories and Experiences

(00:54:00) Alcohol and Social Norms

(01:32:00) Halloween and Trunk or Treat Discussion

(02:10:00) Driving Experiences and State Stereotypes

(02:54:00) Astronomy and the Universe

(03:10:00) Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement

Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets, where each week, three friends - Brian, Rich, and the Dude - gather to live life intentionally through humor and social commentary. This episode kicks off with technical difficulties as the hosts struggle with echo issues during their live stream, leading to a humorous exchange about technology woes.

The conversation meanders through various topics, including the challenges of live streaming, the quirks of podcasting, and the intricacies of military life. The hosts share personal anecdotes from their military days, discussing the importance of respect and leadership, and how these values translate into everyday life.

As the discussion unfolds, the hosts delve into the cultural shifts around Halloween, lamenting the decline of traditional trick-or-treating in favor of trunk-or-treat events. They reminisce about their own childhood experiences and the joys of homemade Halloween treats.

The episode takes a reflective turn as the hosts explore the vastness of the universe, pondering the existence of life beyond Earth and the mysteries of the cosmos. They also touch on the significance of military traditions, such as the symbolism behind jump boots and the art of shining them.

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with their live audience, responding to comments and sharing insights on various topics. They conclude with a heartfelt appreciation for their listeners, encouraging them to participate in the value-for-value model that supports the show.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian,   Rich, and the dude.  

[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:

Yes.  

[00:00:40] Duuude-Ron :

Bryan.  

[00:00:41] Rich Chelson:

Hi.  

[00:00:43] Duuude-Ron :

We still have our problem.  

[00:00:45] Bryan Goodwin:

What you did?  

[00:00:47] Duuude-Ron :

Nothing.   I just I just turned it on,   and I was trying it all out. And, yeah.  

[00:00:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It's echoing, again,  

[00:00:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.   Yeah. It's freaking echoing again.   And Bad. I've got it isolated through Zoom, I think.   It's it's something with,   it's something with the setting, and I don't understand.  

[00:01:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's odd. That's real real odd. It is.  

[00:01:21] Duuude-Ron :

Because that's the thing. Well, you see, when I tried it the other day, I I was just using butt and Pothome.   Okay? And, I mean, it it worked great.   No no echo.   No recording. No like this. It's like, okay.   And then,   and then,   yeah, I fired up Butt, fired up Podhome, and then fired up Zoom.   And,   yeah,   we're   definitely   getting a,   background   background shot.  

[00:01:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright.   Let's see here.  

[00:02:02] Duuude-Ron :

Hold on here.  

[00:02:03] Bryan Goodwin:

I was gonna say, try try your,   try going live one more time.  

[00:02:09] Duuude-Ron :

I'm still live, dude. I haven't stopped.  

[00:02:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Well, I'm not seeing anything on,   on the episodes.   You can The only thing we got is, for the last thing published, just got a wallowing in a bucket.  

[00:02:28] Duuude-Ron :

Open Fountain or   podcast guru.   Dude, we're lies.   In fact,  

[00:02:36] Bryan Goodwin:

in fact, listen we not see it there then?  

[00:02:39] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know.   But in fountain,   it's got the title we fixed the problem.  

[00:02:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:02:47] Duuude-Ron :

And,   podcast guru, the same.   And it's not and it's not I don't know I don't know what we did, but it's not   it's not,   echoing anymore.  

[00:03:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, a lot of times   what I've noticed was sometimes the the   the reverb would would   come along   thanks because it's getting fed into it. So, like, if you opened up your your browser on your,   on the computer,   it would,  

[00:03:20] Duuude-Ron :

I'm listening.  

[00:03:23] Rich Chelson:

Hang on. That's again. I can't hear you, though. But I looked there.  

[00:03:26] Bryan Goodwin:

So  

[00:03:28] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, I can't hear you on on the live.  

[00:03:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Can you not?  

[00:03:34] Rich Chelson:

No.   Okay. I haven't tried going to actually listen to it yet.   There.  

[00:03:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Mary had a little lamb. Its fleece was white as snow. And everywhere that Mary went, the lamb was sure to go.  

[00:03:49] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Hold on a minute.   There's, like, a 15, 20 second delay.  

[00:03:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   I'm hearing you.   Yep. I'm not passing through it.  

[00:04:01] Duuude-Ron :

No. You're not.   Why?  

[00:04:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. You're using the Zoom p 4. Right?  

[00:04:10] Duuude-Ron :

No. Not the AudioSigma.  

[00:04:14] Bryan Goodwin:

I just heard you.   Okay. So AudioSigma.   AudioSigma.   The only thing I could think of and and while we're continuing talking, I'm gonna pause. I would say pause the, the live stream because that's part of where the echo is coming from.   Well, I gotta end the live. I can't pause it. No. No. Pause the, your your own fountain or wherever you're at. Oh.   No. Well, oh, goddamn it. It's good music.  

[00:04:48] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Hang on.   Let me, turn on loopback   because loopback   should bring everybody into   into play.   Alright.   You're on loopback.  

[00:05:02] Rich Chelson:

K. I'll go on here.  

[00:05:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. Now let's check this, check this, check this.  

[00:05:10] Duuude-Ron :

I hear you now.  

[00:05:12] Bryan Goodwin:

There we go.   I was gonna say, I think the loopback is mixed minus,   but you are still accurate.  

[00:05:23] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[00:05:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Because I'm still hearing you from time to time. You'll I you  

[00:05:30] Duuude-Ron :

What are your settings on on on under audio settings, what are yours on Zoom?  

[00:05:37] Bryan Goodwin:

On Zoom?  

[00:05:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:05:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Let me   well, I'm on the phone, so let's see here. Host tools puts it to meeting settings back on   live stream to YouTube.   Hold on. If I need to turn turn my   there we go. Skyhook's get get confusing because I hear you,   and I'll hear you again, but it's a little fainter.   It's one of those Scott, out.   So,   k. Soon?   See.   Apps,   contacts, clips, not subject to meeting, audio.   Audio noise suppression.   So I could actually okay.   So this is you know, all those times I was worried about the sound coming from,   coming from the, the   from the air conditioner in the truck,   that might be what, what you're doing. I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep the auto noise suppression thing on. But that's about the only thing they have for audio.  

See here. Hide sensitive information, switching task, call, use call kit to receive calls with not on Zoom workplace.   Organize tab bar.   Go. That's interesting.   See, accessibility,   dim the screen, share video,   docs,   nope, splits,   contacts, nope.   That's all I really got.   Are you hearing me at all?  

[00:07:24] Rich Chelson:

I'm hearing you, Brian.  

[00:07:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Well, we got here. Got you. Just don't Ain't got ain't got,  

[00:07:31] Rich Chelson:

Rich.  

[00:07:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Rich anymore. Yeah. He's not I'm not seeing him, his microphone move at all.  

[00:07:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:07:41] Duuude-Ron :

Fuck  

[00:07:44] Rich Chelson:

him. You know, it seems like every week,   there are issues with   something.  

[00:07:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, we keep we keep trying to to get the live stream going. And for whatever reason,   we'll get it going we'll get it going in practice, and then,   then time for, time for the the the show, and it just goes shit abed. So Okay. Can you hear me now? I can hear you now. Unfortunately.  

[00:08:13] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Apparently, I had clicked   another button on my computer, not on Zoom.   And it and it kicked off   what I was doing in Zoom. Now what I was saying,   before I knew y'all couldn't hear me and what's up, dude?   Under audio profile   under audio, the only thing I have checked is zoom background noise removal,   and I have it on auto, a UTL.  

[00:08:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's what I've got also.  

[00:08:45] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Now on   the on the podcast app, are we,   echoing or  

[00:08:53] Bryan Goodwin:

no. No, sir. Let me check. Let's see here. Let me close that. So  

[00:08:59] Rich Chelson:

The only thing that's echoing is the space between your ears, Rich.   Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. How how how r r r u u u u.  

[00:09:10] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm not able to go go live on it because it it says buffering and then kicks out.  

[00:09:16] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[00:09:18] Duuude-Ron :

Mine weren't. Which one?  

[00:09:20] Bryan Goodwin:

That's on Podcast Guru. Let me try,   what's the other one? Podverse.  

[00:09:28] Rich Chelson:

Now, is it always because they're changing   freaking or updating the app?   Honestly, don't know.  

[00:09:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Podcast guru   guru.   You might have to,   totally shut it out.   Totally close it and reopen it.   On fountain, it it it sounds okay.  

[00:09:52] Bryan Goodwin:

K.  

[00:09:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. This is our this is our nemesis.   Our nemesis.  

[00:09:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Once I can get out of the fucking truck and be able to utilize,   utilize the the   the   the the Mac because I've been able to use it,   multiple times and not had a problem.   But, yeah, right now, I'm just,   I'm just spinning. I ain't I ain't getting anywhere.   Let's see here.   Setting? Well, you well, you need to get out of the mud then because  

[00:10:28] Rich Chelson:

those tires on the truck,   they are not good for mud.  

[00:10:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Typically, no. You're a It's especially, you know,  

[00:10:35] Rich Chelson:

you know, especially when you're hauling, what, 40, £50,000  

[00:10:39] Bryan Goodwin:

and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:10:42] Rich Chelson:

Now you could try get out and push it,   you know, give it a little bump like we say in the 4 wheeling world.   Give it a bump.  

[00:10:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Give it a bump. Now bump it. Give it a bump.  

[00:10:54] Rich Chelson:

Bump it.   Get up over that rock.  

[00:10:58] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Apparently, Podcast Guru is,   on mine, like like,   off out in the,   the space junk   because I don't know where it's at trying to read anything from.  

[00:11:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Not getting anything on part verse, so let's try   Fountain's   job.  

[00:11:20] Rich Chelson:

Did it go plaid?  

[00:11:22] Duuude-Ron :

Did it go plaid?  

[00:11:25] Rich Chelson:

You don't even have a clue as to what movie I'm referencing, do you?  

[00:11:29] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I don't. Did Brian did Brian get it? Spaceballs, man.   Spaceballs.   Everyone's   everyone they go so fast. Everyone's   everyone they everyone starts wearing plaid. So, yeah, they go plaid.  

[00:11:44] Rich Chelson:

They've gone so fast. They've gone plaid.   No. That's when the,   the Spaceball ship passed the,   RV   Yeah. At such a high rate of speed they had gone plaid.   Rich still doesn't get it. I guess he's never seen the movie.  

[00:12:01] Duuude-Ron :

No. I have never seen the movie.  

[00:12:04] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:12:05] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, I I've   I led a sheltered life, man.  

[00:12:10] Rich Chelson:

Sheltered or   hollow?   Hollow?   Well, that's it. Well, yeah, that's it.  

[00:12:18] Duuude-Ron :

Here. Let me see if I can catch up.   Let me see if I could get it caught.   I got a feeling we fixed it, man. I'm just trying to  

[00:12:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Except for the fact that I can't get anything to run.   I'm not getting live at all.  

[00:12:37] Rich Chelson:

Oh. So if Rick is live and Brian is not,   is   well, call them the Zoom live is the Zoom live, or is it Oh, hey. Hold it. Limbo?  

[00:12:49] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. What okay. What happened here?   Yeah. We got totally kicked off a butt.  

[00:12:57] Rich Chelson:

Because you touched the button.  

[00:12:59] Duuude-Ron :

No. I don't think I did. That's the thing.  

[00:13:03] Rich Chelson:

Don't lie.   Don't lie.  

[00:13:06] Duuude-Ron :

Don't lie. I have. It is it is very possible,   and I'm not seeing anything   in butt right now.   Oh my god.   I wanna shoot these computers.  

[00:13:19] Bryan Goodwin:

But computers are so wonderful. They were such a wonderful thing. They are. I'd just like to know why we're not seeing the   the live  

[00:13:29] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Status.   Okay. Good. Brian, I've got you   on butt now. Okay.  

[00:13:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey. I'm riding the butt, man.  

[00:13:37] Duuude-Ron :

You're yeah, dude. Riding the butt.  

[00:13:41] Rich Chelson:

What what butt?  

[00:13:44] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. I've got I've got all 3 of you on the butt. So we should be  

[00:13:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Now let me show We are back live.  

[00:13:54] Rich Chelson:

Again, what the hell's in the butt?  

[00:13:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Broadcasting   using this tool, b u t t.  

[00:14:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.   We are live on,  

[00:14:08] Rich Chelson:

Riding the butt. No. If you're gonna get the song right, that's doing the butt butt.   Come on now. No.  

[00:14:16] Duuude-Ron :

We are live on on Podcast Guru with no feedback whatsoever.   Yeah. And we're Lab on Fountain with no feedback whatsoever.  

[00:14:26] Rich Chelson:

And if Garrett is listening, he's probably going, what the hell are these fucking morons doing?  

[00:14:33] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. I'm here man, I'm hearing,   I'm hearing a repeat.   I'm hearing you are. And you just said, and we're live on fountain with,   with no feedback.   And, Rich, just   yep. I just repeated I'm hearing a repeat.  

[00:14:53] Duuude-Ron :

I can hear   very, very faintly in the background.  

[00:14:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. We're still getting a feedback someplace.   Okay. Well, it's not as bad as it has been. Oh, no. No. I agree there because they'd been like, hey. We're talking now. Hey. We're talking now. Hey. We're talking now. Hey. We're talking now. And then and then squeal like a little bitch.  

[00:15:16] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   Oh, yeah. No. Hey. Yeah. No. If you're gonna  

[00:15:22] Rich Chelson:

if you're gonna do the movie reference, you gotta do it right.   Squeal like pig.  

[00:15:29] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. No. I ain't going there. Uh-uh.   I I know that movie reference.   No. That's okay.   That's okay.  

[00:15:42] Bryan Goodwin:

So yeah.   But,  

[00:15:46] Rich Chelson:

No. That was,  

[00:15:49] Duuude-Ron :

That was  

[00:15:50] Bryan Goodwin:

what? Deliverance had the dueling banjos. Did it also have that statement in it? Yeah. Yeah. That was where the Okay. You make them squeal like a pig, girl.  

[00:15:59] Rich Chelson:

What was the one with the with the national   going into the bayou?  

[00:16:06] Bryan Goodwin:

National Guard going into the bayou.  

[00:16:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, oh, I've I've seen that movie, and I can't think of the name of it. Yeah. They they, they wind up,   they're a bunch of fucking weekend warriors   that are playing fucking,   Soldier Boy. And,   they wind up shooting this guy and then trying to hide his body, and, well,   the family   was like, yeah. That dog don't hunt.   And, Oh, is that what it was?  

[00:16:39] Rich Chelson:

It's been so long ago since I ever seen that movie, and I don't even remember the name of it.  

[00:16:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. The name of it, I can't I can't remember the name of it. But I remember watching it because   if you ask me,   everyone in them fucking National Guard pieces of shit should have   gotten what they deserved.   Because there was no reason to,   do that.   They was just   you know, their fucking dick, hard because they had guns and and, you know, 3 bullets.   I'm like, no. Fuck you, motherfuckers.   I am not against the National Guard. I am not against people serving in the National Guard. But when you act an ass like that   and act with disrespect   and and and   act with disrespect towards the uniform and the service that you're in,   fuck you. Get the fuck out.  



[00:17:43] Rich Chelson:

That's just Oh, yeah. That   I agree 100%.   But, unfortunately,   it doesn't matter what occupation   whatsoever.   Always gonna be a few   bad apples in the group.   Oh, I know. I know. Yeah. I had I had one soldier   when I was a rear attachment first sergeant. I got a whole O set battery.   All 32 of these guys went through basic training,   AIT, and 1st duty station   together.   So I got 30 brand new guys   days before   a British main deployment   to Iraq.   So I was already jumping out my ass 15 different ways. And then I get these   guys. 1 of the 32,   5 of them never made it in country because they did pick it in the military more than   6 months.  

But one of the guys decided,   well, he had come up hot a couple of times on the piss test, but he wanted to go out and buy   an AR 15   on his own, living in the barracks, mind you,   and   some ammo. So where did he decide to keep his weapon?   Should've kept it in the arms room. That is where you have to legally keep it if you're a single soldier on that lives in the barracks. You have to keep your weapon in the arms.   So he decided he wanted to keep it in his vehicle   and where the ammo at   up in his room. So we did a health and welfare inspection and found the axe like,   dude, are you serious?  

And when we found the ammo, there was 3 rounds with that's what prompted this thought.   There was 3 rounds   missing.   Him and 2 of his buddies had gone someplace out   on the military installation,   not at a range,   and just freely   each shot around,   out of that AR 15.   Just Wow. Someplace in the training area. Don't know. It's like, you didn't think that there was gonna be anybody out there when you guys decided to do this?   It's like, this guy was just absolutely   dumbass.  

[00:20:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I hate to say it, but I think,   dumbass is,   too nice of a word for him.   He was Yeah. Well, you know.  

[00:20:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. He was well packed as a dumbass.   But,   and I remember his name to this day. I'll never forget that kid's name.   And, anyway,   we eventually   chaptered him out of the military after his 3rd coming up hot on a piss test   at the highest   amount of cocaine I've ever seen,   part per million on a piss test   in my military career of 21 years.   So and then about about 6 month about 6 months later, 6 months later, I get this call from,   I can't remember who it was.   And,   he had given me as   me as a reference   for a point of contact   for a job interview. I   I said, are you kidding me?  

Dude. And that's what I told him. I said, if you don't do not put my name as a reference if I chapter you out of the military because   yeah.   No. You're you're an idiot.  

[00:21:18] Duuude-Ron :

You had a buddy. You had a friend. He liked you.  

[00:21:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Don't know if he ever   if he ever, what he did with the well, he probably didn't get the job with that load.  

[00:21:36] Duuude-Ron :

I guarantee   you that.   Yeah. So  

[00:21:42] Rich Chelson:

I mean, who knows? But But, yeah, when you yeah. When you dis when you disrespect that uniform like that, when you're wearing it, it's like, you know,   what the hell?  

[00:21:53] Duuude-Ron :

I've got no use for you.  

[00:21:56] Rich Chelson:

No use, no look, nothing.  

[00:22:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's like now.   You follow the rules. I mean, yeah, we all break the freaking rules. I mean, we've all done it   multiple times, but   not on that scale.   I mean, we've all done some stupid shit.   Shouldn't have been done. We didn't get caught. So, hey, you know,   can't prove what what what may or may not have happened.  

[00:22:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. Because ain't none of us perfect. You're exactly correct.  

[00:22:30] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right. But   Yeah. Yeah. In that But Yeah. In that movie   yeah. When they did that and, basically, what it was, it was their,   squad sergeant.   It was the one that had the hard on for,   you know,   you know,   he was the boss. You listen to what I Yeah.   You you do what I say when you when I say it, man.   Yeah. No one stood up to him because they were like, oh, okay. Alright, man. Yeah. Yeah. I know you're from,   you know, down at the feed store when we sit and talk. Yeah. Nah. Screw you.   No.   Answer is no. But then again, you would have to go back up to, China command because it all starts from leadership down.  

[00:23:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, well, yeah.  

[00:23:22] Duuude-Ron :

So,   I mean, yeah, we, yeah, we could probably talk   hell more than 3 hours about that shit.  

[00:23:31] Rich Chelson:

I'm sure.  

[00:23:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely.   Yes. So  

[00:23:40] Duuude-Ron :

We all served with some   some stupid people.  

[00:23:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh,   yeah.  

[00:23:48] Duuude-Ron :

And and, you know, it was funny. I mean, I was doing stupid shit, and even I was like, damn, that's stupid.  

[00:23:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Are you serious?   Are you serious?  

[00:24:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   It's like, dude, Gainesville's get fucking caught at it.  

[00:24:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly.   You get if you're gonna do something stupid, don't do something stupid and have proof that you did something stupid.  

[00:24:15] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly. Yeah. No no kidding.   Get rid of all the evidence.  

[00:24:25] Rich Chelson:

And it was, you know, and it was much easier back then because you didn't have cell phones and, you know, didn't have picture proof and  

[00:24:33] Duuude-Ron :

Well, this is true.  

[00:24:35] Rich Chelson:

The You know, when we when we were doing stupid things.  

[00:24:39] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   I I you know, honestly,   that's about the only thing I wish we could go back to   was where there was no   video or photographic   evidence.  

[00:24:54] Rich Chelson:

Oh, here's another good one. Here's here's an did we get the all of the audio fixed?   Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Okay. Good. Okay. So here's another good one. Out of that same group of individuals,   all of them,   except for 2, were under the age of 21.   So I told them, you can't have any alcohol,   which I do not, and I have never   agreed   that if you can serve for your country,   you should be able to consume   alcohol.   Right. You know, that   that has always been   my   belief. You know, if you can die for your country, you can drink for your country.   But and   when I came in, you could drink for your country. Oh, yeah. Now that that changed just  

[00:25:53] Bryan Goodwin:

back in   the mid nineties?  

[00:25:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It was yeah. Mid nineties.  

[00:26:00] Duuude-Ron :

No.   When I hit my first duty station in late 87,   we were told that we weren't allowed to drink.   But as in Kansas, so they had raised the law of 21 already.  

[00:26:15] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But it wasn't a federal law.  

[00:26:20] Bryan Goodwin:

But anyway  

[00:26:21] Rich Chelson:

but anyway   Okay. Go ahead. You know you drank before the age of 21.   Why? And all   you probably drank in high school, but didn't we all   In one way, shape, or form.  

[00:26:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Usually, on accident, on reality.   On accident. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. No. Actually, it was. I I was not a high school drinker.  

[00:26:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, well, never was I.  

[00:26:48] Bryan Goodwin:

There was many times that I would I mean, I would try it.   You know? I'd be bored at the house and, you know,   I'd try try some wine and take a drink and oh, god. That's horrible shit. Oh, god.   You know? Or side you know, looked over there and was like, hey. There's that vodka bottle. Let's take a swig. Oh my god. Oh, god. I'm dying. Hey. You know?   So and I've I've that's closest to drinking I would get. I would try something   and go, wow. That's really horrible. That's terrible. Try beer. Oh my god. This tastes like horse piss. What the fuck's this? And, you know, and that's the closest I would get until I turned 21. And then I was like, alright. Well,   I had to then I started choking down. You know, at first, it was like, alright. We'll do beer.  

That's okay. Let's do the the fruity, fruit fruit bits drinks, you know. And, okay. Those those work. Those work. I liked I liked long island iced teas.   They, they they were nice, tasty, and they hit you like a Mack truck. It was awesome. You know?   Then discovered long beach iced teas, which is instead of Coke, it's, cranberry juice, and it's same thing.   And,   yeah. And then had a, had a good friend of mine who, who loved to play,   play drinking games, and   we, there were several nights several Friday nights where I was,   I I was hurling in the bathroom.  

So, you know, it was   it was always, it was fun for the, 2, 3 years of my quote, unquote, party   period because it didn't last long at all. It was it was there, and it was done, and it was gone.  

[00:28:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my gosh. Dude.   Yeah. That's crazy.   2, 3 years? Yeah. Yeah. 2, 3 years. That was it. Well, I no. No. That's cool. Do not get me wrong. I you know, that's great. But, yeah, I was just yeah.  

[00:28:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Not even You were just getting into second gear,  

[00:28:50] Duuude-Ron :

Maybe. I was I I was thinking about going into second gear   3 years in.  

[00:28:57] Bryan Goodwin:

So now now Yeah. No. I've never And I've never been a big drinker ever.  

[00:29:02] Rich Chelson:

And neither have I because my dad was a fucking mean alcoholic.  

[00:29:07] Bryan Goodwin:

So And and that's a good reason why. I mean, I I didn't have anything like that. It just   alcohol yeah. It was fun to get a little a little tipsy from time to time, get a little buzz going, and hell, there's still times that I kinda, like, yes. Let's get, get a buzz going and   drink, drink some, something just a little faster than what I normally do. Because, I mean, hell, I still I only drink, I'll, you know, I'll drink   a 3 beers in, like,   6 hours. It'll you know, it's just kinda spaced out like that.  

[00:29:41] Rich Chelson:

So Especially when especially when it's, what was that orange something moonshine?  

[00:29:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, that  

[00:29:48] Rich Chelson:

dreamsicle moonshine stuff was good. Yeah. Oh my god. Hell, yeah. That was fucking good. Went to, what, 4 or 5 of those? Yeah. About an hour?  

[00:29:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You were you you were you were sitting on top of the roof of the stage in a in a rolling chair going, woo.  

[00:30:04] Rich Chelson:

No. Didn't make it down to the stage.  

[00:30:07] Bryan Goodwin:

But now it was   but to the cabin. Yeah. Yeah. Stayed at the cabin. It was like, alright. Well, we're gonna but that's that's the main reason why   I don't go out if I go out to drink, if we go to me and the wife just happen to wanna go to a bar, which we do maybe, like, once every other year or so,   It's I don't drink   to get drunk, 1, because I have to drive home.   But also,   I don't get drunk in front of people that I don't know.   I refuse to allow myself to get drunk in front of people I don't know.   So I have to know you pretty damn well if I'm willing to get   Stupid.  

Get just gets just a pleasantly   soused.  

[00:30:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:30:54] Bryan Goodwin:

So yeah. I mean, and that's and some people and I understand why some why people use alcohol   to the extent that they do.   And I mean, society. What is it they,   saw something on Facebook.   Alcohol is the only drug that people wonder what's wrong with you if you're not taking it?  

[00:31:13] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[00:31:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Really? Wow.   Wow.   If you're if you're not drink if you're not a drinker   and you're at you go to, like, an office party or you go to a gathering and there's everybody's having a beer and they go, hey. You want a beer? And you go, no. It's like, you don't want a beer? They'll look at you and they'll and they'll ask, why why would you not want a drink? Which, I mean, it speaks volumes for the person's line of thinking going, wow. I wish I could be I could do that where I didn't have to drink.   Right. Because, I mean, yeah, alcohol is a good social lubricant,   but at the same time, it's not it's not a, you know, it's   there's more regret that comes across from that social lubricant than,   than than brave actions.  



[00:32:00] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that's the truth.  

[00:32:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Oh, yeah. 100%.   And so Yeah. I don't I was in.  

[00:32:08] Rich Chelson:

Just like And I've been in some situations   that,   you know,   I'm not gonna drink obviously because driving aspect.   But it's like I look at those people and it's like, you know, you are really   stupid.   Just you you know, you have no   your lack your common sense just   exited   the building.  

[00:32:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:32:36] Rich Chelson:

And, you know, I can't remember what comedian said this   that,   alcohol   is a,   a personal, like, not a personal,   amp   damn. What the hell did how did you say that?   Is an amplifier. Personality   amplifier.  

[00:32:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, very much so. Hell, yeah. It is.  

[00:33:02] Rich Chelson:

But, you know, what if you're an asshole?  

[00:33:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Then you become a huge   asshole.  

[00:33:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I know.  

[00:33:09] Duuude-Ron :

Well, dude,   dude, dude, dude, let me ask you this. Since when   and and and this is something I've never figured out. Okay. Since when does,   common sense and alcohol ever go hand in hand?  

[00:33:23] Rich Chelson:

Doesn't.   Never.  

[00:33:26] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. I I I I I was thinking that way, but, you know, you know, yeah. It's just, you know, I mean, yeah, that's why people get stupid. But   on the same token, when someone asks you, you know, if you want a drink and you say, no. I'm good.   You know, some people   I've seen people get pissed   because They're taking offense to it. You want Oh, yeah. And it's like it's like, woah. Woah. Woah. Holy.   This is my life.   You know? I'll I'll drink if I want to or not. You know? Right. But, yeah, Brian is right too. People think, yeah, is there something wrong, man?  

[00:34:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, the only other thing that's close to that is food   in itself, which is people use food for the very same reason that they use alcohol.   Yeah.   And again, that's the same thing. You you go in and you don't,   and you don't eat every single, you know,   have a have a respectable size helping of every single   entree during the Thanksgiving feast.   And you're liable   liable to have a, an ant or a cousin's nose get completely out of joint.   Yeah. You got a point. It's like, what's what's wrong? You know? What? You don't like my food? It's like, no. I'm   I'm full.  

I no. I can't go anywhere there. I'm gonna barf if I have anymore. And I'm still trying to save a little bit of room for a sliver. And I mean, just 2 pecans worth of pecan pie here, man. You gotta wait.  

[00:34:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No kidding.   Thank goodness I don't have to do   the family reunions anymore   because, unfortunately, they've all passed away. Right.   I think I am the   within my family, I am the oldest   of anybody,   of my family,   to include cousins.   I am the oldest in all my life.  

[00:35:24] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it is up to you as the oldest  

[00:35:28] Bryan Goodwin:

to carry on the family reunion tradition. Yeah. I don't fuck yeah. I don't fucking think that. I don't fucking care about my family.   I was gonna say You know what? Yeah. Come on now. No. No. Fuck. No. Fuck. No.  

[00:35:42] Rich Chelson:

I would not have   some of those fucking people in my house.  

[00:35:48] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, Rent A Hall. I mean, they got hauls all over Texas. I know you can find some  

[00:35:55] Rich Chelson:

You're right. You know what? But I'm not going to spend any money either   for people that I don't really  

[00:36:03] Bryan Goodwin:

give a shit about.   Wanna see.   Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Charging a mission.  

[00:36:11] Duuude-Ron :

Charging a mission.   $40   ahead.  

[00:36:14] Rich Chelson:

No shit.  

[00:36:15] Duuude-Ron :

Kids included.   $40   ahead.   Every person has to pay.   Tony  

[00:36:22] Bryan Goodwin:

That that is something, though. How many people how many when was the last time you went to a, family reunion ranch?  

[00:36:29] Duuude-Ron :

So the last one I remember,   I think   I was 8.   I mean, I'm talking the whole family.  

[00:36:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you had you had extended cousins and extended cousins. Oh, yeah. And that weird, that weird one that that, that, you know, your first introduction   to the interracial marriage.   Do y'all have do y'all have any of those cousins? No. No. No. Oh, we did. I did. That was just then I was a dumb, stupid kid,   at that time. I was, like, 6, 7.   And I was,   remember   seeing them and going, you're allowed to marry them?   And   I got drugged outside for a little bit and got sternly talking to and yeah. No. Of course, that's almost as bad as my my sister.   I'm gonna tell family secrets on here.  



[00:37:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. It is.  

[00:37:21] Bryan Goodwin:

And, because my sister, when,   I was, again,   probably   7, 8 years old. We,   say, well, say my sister,   she is   3, 4, 5, 6, 7. So she's 4 years younger than I am. So   she had to have been for which means I was about 8 years old.   And we went to 6 flags over Texas,   and   we were   in, we were getting in we were in line for the El Semburo, which is the Semburo,   ride that goes up on its side and and rotates and swirls around and stuff. Fun style. Fun time.   But   Amanda was at the age   where   she had   a little little black baby for a for a doll.   And she she loved the little black baby. She had a great time because she would carry it around. She   and and stuff, but   our grandparents   were old style. It wasn't known as a black baby. It was called a baby,   with a hard r type of baby.  

And   and so that's what Amanda thought it was the thought they were called.  

[00:38:38] Duuude-Ron :

And this was the fake one. Right?  

[00:38:40] Bryan Goodwin:

This is just a, yeah, just a, you know, like a little Fisher Price baby doll.  

[00:38:45] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Okay.   Just kidding. And Whatever.  

[00:38:49] Bryan Goodwin:

And so no. I understand. And so we're in 6 flags. We're in line to,   to, to ride the l sombrero,   and   right behind us   was a family, a black family.  

[00:39:03] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[00:39:04] Bryan Goodwin:

And Amanda's over there. She looked over, and she goes,   mom, dad, they look just like my neighbor baby. Like, what?   You're watching mom dad sit got her up to scratch. You gotta get us all killed.   Oh, I'm not gonna. I was like,   I was like, oh, god. We're gonna die.   I already learned I already learned that lesson the hard way. You don't say that to the to the black folk.  

[00:39:36] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. You don't. No. You don't do that.  

[00:39:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh my lord. And I mean, I didn't get my ass kicked,   but whenever I was, oh, probably 6, 7   And,   I would go to go to Dallas for to see my mom   and   met, there were several black kids and black families in the in the neighborhood.   And I've   I'd   again,   being a a kid who was raised in around a whole bunch of white folks. Yeah.   We they use the use the n word many times, and I ended up asking the kid, you know, I was like, hey. Aren't y'all   the n word?   And about that time, her my friend's mom came around and she snatched me up and dragged me into the kitchen, sat me down, and gave me a big ol' lecture about what you don't say and why you don't say it. And   I don't remember what was said exactly other than I got the I got the impression was firmly set into me. You don't say   that word.  



[00:40:41] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:40:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Black,   color,   African American, you know, are all okay.   But that word   no. And I've and I've hated that word ever since. That's a word I think even the   the the African American, the black community   should ban from their language.   Anybody that says it should be treated   equally.   They say it. They are, you know, they're ostracized   for however long until they realize exactly what what they've done wrong.   It shouldn't be in in in rap music. It shouldn't be used as a,   as a as a   terms of endearment because   it's not. It's a term that is self degrading.  

[00:41:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, and this and Yeah. But but also also, you see, the thing is   and and   I agree with a 100% with what you're saying. It it it should be totally wiped out.   It won't be, but that that Auto.   That term was used   for more than just   black Americans or black people.   I mean, yes. I I mean, because if you look at the dictionary   term of that,   it it it says anybody of any race   who is lazy and shiftless.   That is the actual dictionary   dictionary   term of the word.   I've looked it up,   and it's like it it you know, I mean, it can it can go for white people,   Mexicans,   Irish, English,   any   any race.  

North Koreans.   You know?   Russians. It I mean, it go for anybody.   But now I agree. We shouldn't have that word around. Don't need it. Right.   There is just flat no reason to have it. There's not. No.   It's just no. It's just a word used by   people to   keep a racial divide   in our country so we don't band together because   they know if we band together and actually,   become one America.   Look out, world.  

[00:43:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly. Yep.  

[00:43:02] Duuude-Ron :

I mean   I mean, that's that's just exactly it. You know?   As long as we're divided,   we can be led by the nose anywhere.   As sad as I,  

[00:43:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. As as pathetic as that is, that is a very true statement.   As long as we're divided,   politics   will   will always be divided.  

[00:43:32] Duuude-Ron :

And whoever can do whatever they want, and we'll just blindly follow   the blind.   Except for me because I yeah. I just yeah.  

[00:43:45] Rich Chelson:

Why? Because you're blind and deaf?  

[00:43:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh, okay.   Very much so. Very much.   I mean I mean, yeah, you can't ask me to follow in a straight line because I'll be off out in a cornfield somewhere   wondering where everybody went.   Let's  

[00:44:09] Bryan Goodwin:

sorry. I'm sending I was sending a message over to,   over to Josh. He was   he was wanting to know about the, about the podcast. So  

[00:44:21] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I was gonna ask you if he had sent him   message saying if, if, he could hear us or not. Yep. He did.  

[00:44:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Oh, so he can hear?  

[00:44:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. So he can listen in.   Oh, okay. Good. And hear how terrible and awful people we really are.  

[00:44:41] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right.  

[00:44:44] Rich Chelson:

And that's the stuff that we don't talk about on Wednesday night. Right? Exactly.  

[00:44:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yes, folks.   All 3 of us and and about 3 or 4 others talk on Wednesday night,   And Thursday nights is the night   that we talk about the stuff we don't talk about on Wednesday night because   we wind up running out of time.   What what? Last night, we had, what, 5? 5 of us on?   6.  

[00:45:11] Bryan Goodwin:

6? Oh, damn. The only the only one there was only one of one of the guys that did the show.  

[00:45:18] Duuude-Ron :

So Yep. That's right. That's right.   So yeah.   Now this is,   this is crazy.   I'm   just glad we   got the audio 98%   fixed. I mean, it's not a 100% yet, but it's a whole lot better what it was just a few minutes ago.  

[00:45:40] Rich Chelson:

So you know what you need to do? Don't   touch   any fucking buttons.  

[00:45:47] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm not touching anything else. I've got it set now. I've got my routine set, dude. Well, then he's got a he's got a semi set. Then next week, it'll be a different thing. Week. Yeah. Then leave it alone for next week,  

[00:46:01] Rich Chelson:

and we might be good in within what?   10 minutes versus 30 minutes?  

[00:46:07] Bryan Goodwin:

You know, we gotta do it. We gotta tinker around and and talk BS from from time to time to time to time. That's you know, that's   it'd be a boring show if it was if it wasn't. We gotta we gotta talk about stuff that goes over your head.  

[00:46:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, yeah. Of course.   Of course. Just like just like adding me to a group  

[00:46:27] Bryan Goodwin:

text.   Yes.  

[00:46:29] Rich Chelson:

Of shit that I don't already understand just so I can reread it   and  

[00:46:34] Bryan Goodwin:

still not look it up. And then but at least you're being considered.  

[00:46:40] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Thank you.  

[00:46:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Man, anytime. Glad to help.   Gotta keep that gotta keep that ego slightly elevated.  

[00:46:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So don't touch any damn button. Just   don't do anything. That way we don't have you guys don't have to talk about it for the first 45 minutes.  

[00:47:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well well,   dude, hold on because Yes.   Hold on because   I'm fixing to go over your head again real quick for for just a short minute. Brian,   I finally got Albie up and running.  

[00:47:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey.  

[00:47:17] Duuude-Ron :

I can run Satoshis now anywhere I want. Okay.   So yeah. And, yeah, I've got   Wave Lake topped up, True Fans topped up.   Shit. I got a couple 100000 sats in my,   I'll be wallet. So There you go.   So, yeah, finally figured that shit out.  

[00:47:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah, they got it all up and going pretty good. And, yeah, I would actually say you might even try sending it over to,   sending those satoshis over to   over to TruFans,   see about having a having wallet with TruFans.  

[00:47:54] Duuude-Ron :

I do have a wallet with TruFans. They Oh, there you go. And, no, you cannot transfer. I have not figured out yet how to transfer   Satoshis out of Albi to True Fans or back and forth.   That is   because,   True Fans,   well, hell, I've got 40,000 sats there. And I was gonna use that as my wallet to fund my Albie wallet.  

[00:48:22] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:48:23] Duuude-Ron :

You know, and open a channel and all and all like that and get all those sats I had off in limbo.   Oh, no. Couldn't do that. No. No.   But  

[00:48:33] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm still working with true fans on that. But You might make a, just a a one little, little podcast   episode of just your,   just of you talking or something   and set the,   set the wallet up to where they all just go to you.   Yeah. And then from the Wally,   Alby wallet,   and, that that that wallet set it up so that it goes   points to the true fans.  

[00:49:02] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:49:02] Bryan Goodwin:

And then send all the send all the sats over to,   you know, give yourself a big ass freaking boost. You know? Send, like, 2, 3, however many 100000 sats you've got. You know? Send a 100000 sat and go, hey. Yeah. You know? Make yourself feel pretty cool.  

[00:49:18] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   Yeah. Well, you know, I'm still I'm still working on that one podcast,   that solo podcast that I talked about   couple months ago. Yep.  

[00:49:28] Bryan Goodwin:

And I'm trying to decide if I really want I and I've I've gotten myself pretty much talked out of it at the moment, but at the same time, there's a part of me that just still   really wants to do a local podcast.  

[00:49:42] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean I mean,   I like the idea,   you know, if it's if it's viable. You know?   Try and, you know, get to   if you can, try and find some some stats or talk to someone about   how many people in your area listens to podcasts.   You know? Because that was  

[00:50:05] Bryan Goodwin:

that would make or break your show right there. Well, I think I would be able to bring more people in   if I can you know, if I start   start having everybody kinda talk about, oh, there's this, have you heard about this new podcast, this news you know, podcast about the news or whatever, you know, whatever it is that we wanna Right.   Or whatever I wanted to have it have it about. But, you know  

[00:50:29] Duuude-Ron :

The thing is, though, does   does the young people or even the older people know about podcast?  

[00:50:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, there's a good deal. I mean,   right now, it,   there is they over half of the people who've,   when it comes to surveys and stuff,   most people know what a podcast is now.   And it starts to drop   as they   as the,   as the awareness   and actually listening. But I mean, it's still I think it's over 50% of people have listened to a podcast.   Right. Half the half the US population estimated half population   of   of the US has listened.   So, I mean and it drops,   you know That's right. As you go from  

[00:51:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   But you see, that's the   that's the one I'm asking is. Is it,   how many people in the area you live? Because   you've got more of I I mean, I don't I don't know the age range of   of the area that you're looking at.   You know?  

[00:51:46] Bryan Goodwin:

And then it it would just be for   though, most of the time I think most of the people who'd be listening   are people who are   from that area.   So from Western Oklahoma area wanting to,   just kinda see what the heck's happening in,   in in in Oak City.   Alright. Right. You know?   And so   I I think most of them would be from out of the,   out of the area. But at the same time,   I definitely could become one that   is   of   of a,   of a money generator, if you wanted to call it that, because I could actually do advertising. And I know $200   a month is a lot cheaper than what you get from the local radio station.  



[00:52:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Guarantee.  

[00:52:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And so, you know, have have It's taking a thing. A 2 hour a 2 hour show and have so have   8, 8 advertisements.  

[00:52:46] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:52:47] Bryan Goodwin:

And, you know, and do like like I was saying last time, you know, do like what,   Glenn Heber does where, you know, you've got your the show advertiser,   you know, the show sponsor. The show sponsor. This is, you know, around the town with,   with,   with,   you know,   Elk City Chamber of Commerce.   You know, brought to you by, Elk City Chamber of Commerce. And, you know, you give them a little tie in. They always get the first little advertisement   bump right there at the very beginning of the show.   And, then, you know, and then we're over here out to the, to the   to the, you know, the email,   section brought to you by,   you know, Farmers,   Elevator Cooperative,   which I don't think that's actually a name for their elevator. Right. But I get that. Still, you can that.  



[00:53:41] Duuude-Ron :

What what I'm saying is, though, is that is that   are you gonna have enough listeners to support   that ad revenue?  

[00:53:51] Bryan Goodwin:

I'll start off with, probably not.  

[00:53:53] Duuude-Ron :

I mean I mean, that's why that's why I was asking because I don't know the demographics,   you know, or,   you know, of of the area.   Right. You know, see, it's like it's like, do you feel good enough in yourself  

[00:54:07] Bryan Goodwin:

that that, you know, this can go? I'm not I'm not trying to shoot you down, dude. Fuck me. Well, no. It's not that I'm I I'm not even taking you as as trying to shoot you down because right now, I mean, the the   gotten myself I've shot myself down on it. I still like the idea. I still wanna be able to do something like that.   Right. I just wanna be able to play with the location tags and podcast and 2 point o stuff. Things and and that's part part of the reason.   But   I'm   my my goal, my focus, my my energy is still   relax mail. I'm that's   if I if if   that's the big thing I'm waiting against. How much time would this, would that podcast take   away from me being able to do relaxed mail?  

Right. At the moment,   way too much time because there would have to be,   you know, there would   for 2 hours,   that means that's   2468.   Yeah. That's that's 8 hours of extra work   just for a weekly episode.  

[00:55:22] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. I mean, you would have to pound pavement  

[00:55:25] Bryan Goodwin:

just to get Yeah. And then I would have to, you know, have to start doing research and start buying, you know, the Elk City newspaper and the Clinton newspaper and the Weatherford newspaper and the West Oak paper and the West Oak Weekly   and and, the, you know, Thrifty Penny and and or Thrifty Nickel and, you know, all the other   papers and and and rags and things like that that are out there and   gather information about local politics and local administrations   and and   then regional administrations   and state and county inform,   commissioners and state   politics and, you know, spend on how far out you you wanna go. Some people are gonna wanna know these and that and others and  

[00:56:11] Duuude-Ron :

And sports? It's it's don't you forget about them sports now?  

[00:56:16] Bryan Goodwin:

And I would love to forget about those sports because I can't fucking stand sports.   And that's the thing. I mean, it's like, Susie wants  

[00:56:24] Duuude-Ron :

to hear   about her little niece playing volleyball, dude.  

[00:56:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, you know, I would say and and congratulations   to, Elk City. They won.  

[00:56:35] Rich Chelson:

That's that would be interesting. Forget about the don't forget about the high school football.  

[00:56:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no. I then I could give you know, that's that is the other that is the big thing because you're right. It would be it would have to have   a a section of sports in there.   Why? Because for some reason, people want to listen to   about sports for some reason. And I don't get it because I am not a sports person.   I'm not a sports fan.   I played sports in high school. It was fun.   But I was also   the,   I was I was the bench warmer   and the tackle. So I would sit on the bench and warm it up, and I,   guarded the water, and I tackled anybody that got near it, essentially. You know? So it's   I I I was   I I essentially, I just watched the foot. I I barely watched because I didn't play football with my glasses on. So   Right. I really didn't see what was going on during the football game either   because I was biased about. I could still I could sense   where people were. I could tell where people were. I couldn't tell who that person was.  

But, thankfully, everybody had different colored jerseys on, so I wouldn't accidentally tackle on our our quarterback or anything.   So, you know   but we would we had you know, I would   I couldn't tell you, you know, if I was standing in front of, of of Cody Chisholm or or Morgan Hightower.   So it was just Oh, yeah. I'd have to listen for to him talk and well, Morgan was a little easy. He was just he was taller than me. So I actually he was the one guy that I had to actually look up to. So  

[00:58:19] Duuude-Ron :

Well, if if anyone cares, the dodgers won the series last night.  

[00:58:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. So I didn't know they were playing the series. So alright.   Yeah. Yeah. We, yeah, we, we, we have freaking talked about it last night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I talked about it a little bit about it last night. But, again, it's sports, so it just kinda goes   out of the ears. So  

[00:58:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I don't watch much sports either, but I I I don't want sports ball.   I wanna say I wanna say before I forget,   I saw the logo on your, website.   I love it.  

[00:58:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Logo on the website?  

[00:58:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You changed it up.   Did I?   Well, since the last time I looked at your website, yeah.   Because if you look at your profile pit   picture on the Zoom right now, that's the old logo.   The new one where it's more streamlined.   I see here. Hold on. Hold on. I saw it on a on a blog post.  

[00:59:26] Rich Chelson:

So   so we got  

[00:59:29] Bryan Goodwin:

bring it up there. Okay. So   oh, where's just the, where's just the image?   Well, actually, that's that's the,   yeah, where it's the guy, and it just says relax mail dot com.  

[00:59:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But but no. The font and and and how you have this,   solid line   and then,   male coaching underneath it,   that's a new look I had not seen, dude.   The mountain and the dude. Yeah. I had seen that,   you know, because I stare at it every week,   but it's in green.   This here,   well, it's the mountain is still green, but   but,   in   on your Zoom   profile pic, it says the relaxed male.   And on your website, it just says relaxed male coaching.  

[01:00:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh,   okay. I see what you're saying. Okay. You're talking about that one right there. Alright. Okay.   Actually, that one's been like that one for a good little while.   Yeah. Because because the blue one the blue one is actually the,   it's just that's just the since it was a square that I was needing to play with, that was just my the the podcast,   cover art.  

[01:00:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. Well,   apparently, I hadn't been paying attention, and I paid attention finally.   Oh, okay. And and I was like that.  

[01:00:56] Rich Chelson:

There we go. There's the final aspect. You hadn't been paying attention.  

[01:01:02] Bryan Goodwin:

It's just that.   Well, I'm always playing with something on the site, so there's always a little something changing here and there. I mean, it's like the  

[01:01:11] Rich Chelson:

Too much information there, buddy?  

[01:01:13] Duuude-Ron :

No.   Well, yeah. No. Yeah. You changed the site. That's for sure. Yeah. Well, I mean  

[01:01:21] Bryan Goodwin:

and I actually went back in the in the way back machine and and,   and just for shits and giggles a while back and looked at what the how everything was   back in, back in, like, 2017,   2019.   So but now, like like, the, the featured images now   are are the big things that I've I've started swapping around. So I've   got found a, found a way of,   doing the, the featured image and the and the   and the, episodic art for the for the podcast that   all kinda jives together that I really like. And so, yeah, it's just   instead of, instead of the solid, you know, solid dark,   image, it's more of a,   transparent   with so she actually got the images and all. And it's just something that I've kind of every time I see 1 see something like that, I've I've always kinda liked it. And so, yeah, I just went ahead and decided it's time to incorporate it into into the the the show itself. Right.  



[01:02:23] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. I see it. And yeah. No. I'm just I'm just saying, yeah. Yeah.   I've   read your last couple blog posts, and I'm   Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. I saw you made comments on the past 2 couple weeks. Like, hey. Hey. There   we go. Yeah. Good. I mean, they was in my email. And, you know, normally, in the morning, when I check my email, I freaking delete just about everything. Right. I keep only, like, 1 or 2 emails because my brain's not gonna function very far   after that. You know? I and and I have to have coffee first.   Absolutely.  

So I sit there and drink some coffee, and it's like, yeah. Okay. I'll I'll read my emails. And then   the ones I didn't erase,   I'll go through is because I've got I've got I've got a couple that I I read every morning regardless.   But,   years had come up, and   I had gotten,   I read, like, the first paragraph on on, like, the preview, I guess. And I'm like, oh, let me look at this. And so I sat there and wound up, read the whole thing. I was like, my god, I like that.   I was like and and I was gonna try and send you a boost, but this was before I had my Alby wallet.  

[01:03:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh.  

[01:03:42] Duuude-Ron :

So   you didn't get the, effect of a boost.   And on the phone,   I haven't figured out how to be able to do that through,   the email yet.   So   but, yeah, I had,   yeah, I had I had noticed your last couple,   post and everything. I'm like, that's cool. I like those.   Even though I'm not working, and and it and it does not pertain to me. But it's well, I mean, well,   you see, that's the thing, though.   On on those last two posts I read, which were what? Well, actually, the last 3 because because the one I read today,   that was a podcast episode, and I just read   what was that? The show notes or the transcript?  



[01:04:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Those are just, show notes.  

[01:04:37] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well, well, the show notes were done well. I mean, they were done excellent. Honestly, I love I love the way Potom does the fucking show notes. They're just kick ass. But, anyway,   I had just read those   and then,   previous 2 days,   blog post.   And and even though I'm not married, I'm not going through a divorce. I don't have a wife or anything like that.   You can still, as a single person,   pull stuff out of those   to help you along in your life.   So,   you know, so, I mean,   I even got something from those blog posts,   you know, and and the show notes.  



[01:05:21] Bryan Goodwin:

So   Good.   Glad to hear you were able to get something.  

[01:05:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I was.   Yeah. It's yeah. Because I it,   you know, that's the thing. You know? You know, some guys might be like, well, I ain't married, and I ain't got no fucking wife blah blah blah. Well, you know what?   Maybe you need to work on your fucking attitude.   Why don't you read a Bible?   I mean, shit, man.   You know? No wonder why you don't have a fucking wife.  

[01:05:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And that's kind of the one one of the big problems a lot of, when it comes to, like,   issues men run into is   yeah. So many of them want   to try to point the blame to   other folks. Isn't that great? Yeah. I mean, if you want a,   if you want a guy to   to   follow you   or if or if like, if you're married and you want,   you want   your husband to   to   essentially   walk on his hands and knees across a   a burning desert or broken glass to give you a nice, cool, refreshing   glass of lemonade,   There's only one real big thing you have to do to the guy.   And it's not sex and it's not giving him a sandwich. It's, you know, don't show him you don't have to show him boobs and get him a sandwich. But you can, but one thing is,   give them respect   because that is the   main thing men want.  

When they when a, you know, you get,   say, you're folding laundry for your wife.   Right. And you get done.   And all she goes is, oh my god. Who taught you how to fold those towels? You don't fold towels like this. You gotta fold it like this and blah blah blah blah. And she,   completely tears down everything the guy did.   Then what and then they turn then women turn around and complain. Well, why won't men do anything for do anything around the house?   Well, it's a it it it the evidence is, right before you.  

[01:07:43] Duuude-Ron :

Well, okay. Yes. You're right. But at the same time,   the guys also have to give respect as well.  

[01:07:50] Bryan Goodwin:

And I'll and But it and and 90 raise that down. 90   oh, I know guys who don't. There's a lot of guys and but a lot of those guys who don't aren't actually men.   Well, no. Those are those are just full grown boys.  

[01:08:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:08:07] Bryan Goodwin:

I yeah. I, call them little boys. Yeah. They're they're just they're just boys. They are consumers.   They're not contributors.  

[01:08:16] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:08:17] Bryan Goodwin:

But men, when you show them respect,   they're gonna do everything they can for you. And this goes for other men. If men, if you, who are listening to this, if you wanna have   other men   follow you into battle,   Show them respect. That's one of the reasons why,   George Washington's tactic of asking   the lowly private   his thoughts.   What what do you think about the, you know, about Valley Forge? You know? How do you what do you think, what are your thoughts on them? What do you have any input on it? Because   Washington would. He would he wouldn't just   say acts like he knew it all.  

He was humble enough to ask people questions.   Mhmm. He would find people who are from that area. So what do we need to know about this? And he would want he would gather information from   it might be just a lowly little private   who would, who would know something about the,   the area they were traversing,   and he wouldn't get information from them. He respected the information that everybody gave. He had the understanding   that everybody had a   A purpose. Had an ins and yeah. They had a purpose. They had an inherent sense of expert,   expertise.  

And so to tap into that and to show the respect of you've actually got value,   you had guys freezing   literally to death   without shoes,   with   with ratted out coats   in the middle of, middle of a a mini ice age   in valley Ford.  

[01:10:14] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[01:10:14] Bryan Goodwin:

And they did it because   Washington   gave them respect.   And so, yeah, if the guys who come around and go, wow, you don't you know, and they they come around stomping around, trying to micromanage   everything,   and and think that everybody thinks that everybody's a moron.  

[01:10:34] Duuude-Ron :

Those are bosses.  

[01:10:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Are the bosses. They're not leaders. Exactly.  

[01:10:38] Duuude-Ron :

Leaders eat last.   So one thing I learned when I went to a seminar for first time managers,   leaders eat last.  

[01:10:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Well, I'm not a 100% sure I I really,  

[01:10:54] Rich Chelson:

No. Yeah. I'd no. I agree with Rich.   When   the leaders   ate last,   always.   You know, when yeah. When I was in the military as being an NCO,   my soldiers always   it come chow time.   My soldiers always ate before I did. Always. Right. Okay.  

[01:11:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But but not   I'm not saying that as as as   as in the act of eating.   It's it's   that statement there I mean, dude, you're right. But, that that Well, no. Yeah. That Yeah. That's when saying the soldiers come first.   Everyone under you comes first.   You take care of everybody because in the end, they're gonna take care of you, and that's how that's how I ran   well,   after I learned this, that's how I ran my recycling center.   I had   convicted felons working for free   doing   double the work they were supposed to do because   they enjoyed it. Because they knew   I would notice it. I would take notice. And and and I would tell them a great, you know, thank you for doing a great job every fucking day if they showed up. I thanked them   because   they made my job a lot easier.  

So, you know, and that's where that's where that's where a lot of people have a hard time because   they haven't learned that   or,   you know, or they were raised, totally different way, and they haven't,   elevated their way of thinking   Right. To any further on the totem pole than a boss.   Right. That's that's that   I don't know. That's   that's just the way I do things.  

[01:12:49] Bryan Goodwin:

No. And I and I get that. And but what about   what I was actually kinda wanting to dispute   on the the whole   leaders,   eat last   And now and I get that, and I understand where that particular sentiment comes from.   But   and also,   to me, what it brings up is   the the leaders yeah. They may eat last, but a lot of times, they eat apart from the group.   I think, well, actually, leaders eat   with the now they may be the last one in line, but they eat with   their guys.   You know, the leader if his leader's not willing to   to do the dirty work   that he's needing his men to do,   then is he is he willing to is he worthy of following, so to speak?  



[01:13:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I can see your point there because I yeah. I mean I mean, with me with, our recycling center,   I always tried to eat lunch with   with my guys and girls because I, you know, I had both. And   Right. Even though even though my boss really didn't want me to because I was supposed to separate,   but   I found that the way I was doing things got results.   So   so my boss, who actually was the director of the whole facility,   really didn't push me on that issue.   But Okay. And and 9 times out of 10, I would get sat down and my phone would go off. So   and and everyone at my table knew I wanted to spend time because sometimes we get pizza   for everybody. And, you know, I'd I'd wanna sit there and just shoot the shit with them. And I wouldn't you know, because my phone would go off and I would have to take the phone call in. Next thing I know, they're all back to work and I'm just getting this, you know, sit down and eat cold pizza,   you know, and or someone would come in needing help. I while they were eating lunch, it I was on the clock.  

Right. You know, I stepped in and and there was a few days,   a few Saturdays that I had worked. My people were like, oh, hell no. Sit down. We got this. I'm like, guys, it's y'all's lunch hour. Shut   up. Sit down and eat. You know? I mean, it was just it was just a whole mutual respect thing. And Right. We got everything done that needed to get done plus more.   You know, and that's that's that's the whole thing. Yeah. Just treat just treat people like you wanna be treated.   If you wanna be treated like shit, well, treat them like shit, you know. But, you know, if you wanna be seen as a decent person, as a good person,   just treat them right.  



[01:15:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Exactly.  

[01:15:39] Duuude-Ron :

You know, it doesn't matter where they come from.   So   but yeah. No. No. I I mean, yeah. I get it. I get it. But you see, that's where some companies   and and like,   say the army,   I'm I'm not sure about the,   other branches. But, yeah, the NCOs   normally sat   over by themselves because  

[01:16:04] Bryan Goodwin:

that's just the way life was. Oh, yeah. Well, on the Kitty Hawk, the the Chiefs had their own mess,   and that was that was the place to go if you were mess cranking To go to the get sent to the chief's mess, that was that was it.   Because, one,   they you could,   you could,   make the food that you wanted to make whenever you wanted to make it. They had ice cream. I had ice cream all the time.   You know, what I would do for a Klondike bar.   So,   you know, it was there was a lot of good I I mean and there was a lot of lessons there. Like, one, if you see the really disgustingly   grody, awesome,   awesomely terrible looking coffee cup,   leave it alone.  

Don't touch it.   You're gonna get in trouble if you touch it and you clean it up.  

[01:16:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:16:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Good. I've done that. Your teeth?   Oh, no. Really? Oh, yeah. Well, you see, it was disgusting. I was like, oh, let's clean it up. Washed it up, threw it in the washer machine, got it all cleaned up and washed up, and came out   bright and sparkling, and that chief just was not happy.  

[01:17:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god.   So, so I guess you had to scrub the boat with a toothbrush?  

[01:17:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Not quite. Not quite. But, but no. He was   he he gave me a very stern talking to you. He's like, you do not touch for this cup. I set it there. Just rinse it off, and that's good. It's like, you're through, god.  

[01:17:34] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, dude, sergeant major woulda owned your ass if you woulda done that in the army. Oh my god.   Sergeant major woulda owned your ass the whole time you was on his post.   Probably. But   Yeah. Yeah. Sergeant major was no one to be I would I would I just saved that chief's life. Alright?  

[01:17:55] Bryan Goodwin:

He just doesn't realize that you got it.   Oh. Because there there was salmonella   getting ready to mutate into some superbug   that was gonna turn him into into a zombie. I know it was about to happen. So I saved his life and all of society.   So  

[01:18:13] Duuude-Ron :

You sure about that? This no. It's not entirely.   Same same guy who had spent, what, 4 or 5 years in Vietnam, you know, in the jungles, and and that that is salmonella was gonna do him off.   Yeah. No. We didn't we didn't even fuck a sergeant major in the army. Oh, hell no. Uh-uh.   No. No. No. You did not. No. No. Sergeant major owned your ass if if if you screwed up that bad.   And   no one argued. Not even a colonel argued with sergeant major.   Not even a colonel.  

[01:18:54] Bryan Goodwin:

No reality. The majority of the chiefs that we,   we had on that ship, they were all just   cool as could be. I mean, they   That's cool. That's that's awesome. Yes. And there's a couple that, you know, they they walked around   walked around like they had a perma boner, so they thought they were they were big shit, ready to fuck anything. And   yeah, I mean, they   they eventually got humbled.  

[01:19:23] Duuude-Ron :

I I bet.   Were,   were they they the young chiefs?  

[01:19:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Usually, they just finished getting getting,   getting promoted to, to e 6. Yeah.   Oh. E 6. Yeah.  

[01:19:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh, maybe. No. Hold up. Let me double check. See. 2. C mount.  

[01:19:45] Bryan Goodwin:

1, 2. At What? C No. No. 7. 77.  

[01:19:49] Duuude-Ron :

Sorry. Oh, e 7 is a chief? Yeah. Yep.   Okay. And then,   the 8 is a Yeah. Chief, master chief, and senior chief. Okay. Senior chief with sergeant major. Okay. Yeah. Senior chief is the same as sergeant major then.   Yeah. Yeah. You don't fuck with senior chief or   or sergeant major. Right.   No.   Especially if they're old   because they will chew you up, spit you out, and   that's all before they have their first drink of coffee.  

[01:20:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Then And, and Joshua jumped in and said, I think a leader will find a way that not only benefits himself, but his team. He will give credit where it's due. He won't, take,   take come up and said, short changes of staff slash team. I can respect a leader with but someone that demands the, respect but not put in the work is someone I can't get behind. It leads to a shutdown or very hostile environment. Well said.  

[01:20:49] Duuude-Ron :

Hell yeah, Josh. That's awesome.   Fuck yeah. Our first live, and we got our first message.   That's hell yeah.   I'm like, dude, you the man.   I love it.   But, no, he is he is he's a 100% right.   Dude, did you fall asleep on us? He did. He did. No. I haven't fallen asleep.  

[01:21:17] Rich Chelson:

I'm here. I'm not. I'm not asleep on us. You know what? You guys have taken over the conversation. I'm just sitting here in the shadows.   You know, my you my usual position.  

[01:21:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, you know, we didn't mean to,  

[01:21:33] Rich Chelson:

take over the conversation from you there, dude. Really, we didn't. You're no. You're good. But, yeah, you're good. I'm just sitting here listening.  

[01:21:42] Duuude-Ron :

I just got I just I I just got,   yeah, impassioned as as   Brian   loved to use that term, what, a month ago, 3 weeks ago. I can't Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I   that is, like, my new favorite word,   imp impassioned.  

[01:22:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. The other new the other new word that's, I've got, you know, my friend, John, who, who drives also drives a truck, for, for the same company.   I've got I taught him a new word, and it's a word we I we used to use in in high school all the time, but it was ding ding.   So you go off yeah. Ding ding, like, dingdingdingding.  

[01:22:25] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,  

[01:22:26] Bryan Goodwin:

okay. You piss somebody off, you kick them in the dingding.  

[01:22:31] Rich Chelson:

No. That's a kitty.   Kicking the dick.  

[01:22:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I've I've I've I've   I've heard that word I've heard that word a couple of times. Yeah. But it  

[01:22:44] Bryan Goodwin:

it's it's just something that I I've always thought was just funny, not to mention hell. It takes me back to back to whenever I was an idiot in high school. So   you know?   What you talking about? I'm still an idiot at times. Well, no. I'm still I'm I'm a I'm a full grown idiot now, but I mean, back then, I was a   I was   a moronic idiot. So, you know Right. Right. Right.  

[01:23:11] Duuude-Ron :

So We was half pine idiot.  

[01:23:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly. Yeah. That's a good way to put it. So  

[01:23:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, damn. Oh, man. Maybe one day you'll grow up into,   into my lifestyle, which is misery. So  

[01:23:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, well, you know,   we   what is it?   I always have to have one miserable  

[01:23:34] Rich Chelson:

individual in the group?  

[01:23:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, you know, they said they do say that ignorance is bliss,   and patience is a virtue. Company. Yeah. You're right. And patience and patience is a virtue. So you can actually live live a really damn good life if you're stupid and don't mind waiting around.   Yeah.   So, you know  

[01:23:58] Duuude-Ron :

That was fucking awesome. I gotta tell you. I like that one.  

[01:24:03] Bryan Goodwin:

So  

[01:24:04] Duuude-Ron :

That was that was awesome. I love that one.  

[01:24:09] Bryan Goodwin:

So there's times that I like to just kinda have a really nice life going on there. You know?   I I I can play dumb and just   stand around my thumb up my butt and just wait around. It's it's it's kinda nice.  

[01:24:21] Duuude-Ron :

You see, I I had to stop the whole thumb up the butt thing because it started to stink.  

[01:24:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, don't pick your don't don't don't pick your nose with the same thumb, man.   Jim and me.   God, heathens around here. I swear.  

[01:24:40] Duuude-Ron :

That's what I was doing. Damn the bad luck.  

[01:24:44] Rich Chelson:

Oh, the   with your thumb up your butt and what? You were just waiting for somebody to say switch?  

[01:24:52] Duuude-Ron :

No one said nothing, dude. I didn't know what to do. Come on, man.  

[01:24:57] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. So you never switched?  

[01:24:59] Duuude-Ron :

No. Never switched.  

[01:25:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Always the same thumb?   Oh, you should take comfort though. Right?  

[01:25:07] Duuude-Ron :

I got well acquainted with my thumb.   Oh my god.  

[01:25:14] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god. Yeah. Well, that's yeah. We're we just need to kinda   stop there.  

[01:25:20] Bryan Goodwin:

And now for something completely different.   So  

[01:25:24] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Something completely different. And Rich said and Rich   wanted commentary about my activity for my activities for today.  

[01:25:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yes. That's right.  

[01:25:36] Rich Chelson:

So   today, being the last day of the month for   vehicle registration   for my vehicles  

[01:25:44] Duuude-Ron :

And happy Halloween to everyone.  

[01:25:46] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Happy Halloween.   So I had to   go down and get my vehicle registered.   Well, my dumbass goes   around   noontime.  

[01:25:59] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, dear.  

[01:26:01] Rich Chelson:

No. No. The yeah. And I'm thinking myself, why why why the fuck am I driving down the road   at 11:45,   trying to go down to   the DMV   to do vehicle registrations   on the last day of the month.   I am a fucking idiot.   I get there.   The parking lot is   not really full,   And it's also the same   building complex   that is   for,   early voting.   I'm like, okay. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Not too the parking lot's not too bad.   So I'm still expecting, like I, whenever I go down to the DMV to have at least,   at least   45 minutes to an hour wait   to get my vehicles registered.   I walk into the office   and I didn't even get to the kiosk   to try to program my information in.  

And somebody behind the counter says,   you can come to window 7.   There was   nobody   there.  

[01:27:16] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. I  

[01:27:18] Bryan Goodwin:

know. I know. There was always   there was one other customer  

[01:27:23] Rich Chelson:

one other customer already at the window,   4 windows open, and nobody in the waiting room. I was like,   holy   crap.  

[01:27:32] Duuude-Ron :

This is a a lottery ticket. Woo hoo. You're winning.   Damn.  

[01:27:38] Rich Chelson:

What do you think I did after I got done with the DMV?   Seems how I didn't win Tuesday   or Wednesday.   But the previous week, I did win the lottery.  

[01:27:51] Duuude-Ron :

What you win? Whopping  

[01:27:53] Rich Chelson:

$7.  

[01:27:54] Duuude-Ron :

Woo hoo. Woo hoo. Seven whole  

[01:27:57] Rich Chelson:

fucking dollars.   Hey. Well, it's better than a kick in the face, dude. Well, it's better than a kit d. Right? Kick in the dick.  

[01:28:05] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:28:06] Rich Chelson:

So Kick in the ding ding.   Yeah. Kicking a ding ding.   So hopefully   well, maybe tomorrow night.   Dude. God. That would be fucking great. You know how much the,   the single payout is?   No.   114,000,000.  

[01:28:26] Duuude-Ron :

I don't even know what game you're playing, dude.  

[01:28:30] Rich Chelson:

Oh, it's a Mega Millions. Mega Millions?  

[01:28:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Okay. Yeah. And, I mean, they've got they've got so many freaking games I can't keep up.   So it's like it's like, you know, if you say it past a 100,000,000,   okay. I just think it's Powerball.  

[01:28:46] Rich Chelson:

You know? Yeah. The Powerball.   So that one, the,   not the annuitized, but the single payout's a 114,000,000.  

[01:28:56] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Alright. That's cool. But still, man, that's awesome walking into DMV   on the last day of the month   at noon  

[01:29:05] Rich Chelson:

At lunchtime.  

[01:29:07] Duuude-Ron :

And someone says you can just come to Windows 7,   I would've I would've knelt on my knees and wept.   I would've wept.   Yeah. I was like I'd have been scared. Oh, hell no. The sky is falling.  

[01:29:24] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean shit.  

[01:29:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Lord have mercy. There's   nobody in the chairs. I'm like,   what the fuck is the first thought in my head was, what the fuck's wrong here?   I'm like, well,   well and then don't even have to punch my information in the kiosk before somebody's   saying come up to this window.   Wow. I'm like, holy crap.  

[01:29:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah, dude.   You should've taken a selfie with the girl. Just just say, hey. I I I need this for verification   because ain't nobody gonna believe this.  

[01:29:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I know shit.  

[01:30:02] Duuude-Ron :

No kidding. I mean I mean, I've learned I've learned down here because,   believe it or not, and,   now they've got a DMV   office   over in Ocean Springs. I think they have one in Biloxi, and they have one in Gulfport.   But after you leave Ocean Springs in Gautier and Pascagoula   now there's about 9,000 people in Gautier.   There's 20 some 1,000 over here in Pascagoula,   in Moss Point, and all like that. Right?   There is only one DMV place, and that's between Ocean Springs and Gautier.   And   they say, you better get an appointment.   I've had many people tell me that when I got down here,   and I I was like   yeah. At first, I thought, yeah. I'll just go in. No.  

No. I just if I have to go to DMV,   I go online and get an appointment.   I don't I don't sit and wait. I don't take my chances because there is never gonna be a time   when   when I achieve  

[01:31:06] Rich Chelson:

the status that you achieved today, dude. And I Well, no. And then I'm sorry. No. It wasn't DMV. It was vehicle registration.  

[01:31:14] Duuude-Ron :

Now DMV in there.  

[01:31:16] Rich Chelson:

It Well Oh, down there, it may yeah. No. Here, it's 2 different things. You have the DMV for driver's license, and you have vehicle registration   for, you know, just registering vehicles, trailers, whatever.   Oh, yes. DMV? That's all. Oh, DMV? Yeah. No. Hell no. DMV   yeah. That's down here too in Texas. You either have an appointment   or they have some standbys,   but you better be at the fucking place 2 hours before they open up the door   to get a standby appointment for that day.   Oh, yeah. And the one in Killeen?   Oh, hell no. That's why I had to do my,   all the stuff for my CDL.  

Yeah. No. You're standing in line for a couple hours.  

[01:32:06] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.   Yeah. No. See this? Yeah. Yeah. I just yeah. I don't know. But, yeah, that's crazy, dude. That's all. But still, usually vehicle registration, you're there for at least an hour.  

[01:32:19] Rich Chelson:

Not today.   I was shocked   again, but that's okay.  

[01:32:24] Duuude-Ron :

They was all out buying candy, man.  

[01:32:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Probably.  

[01:32:28] Duuude-Ron :

It's the only thing I can think of, man. It's Halloween, dude.  

[01:32:32] Rich Chelson:

Yep. It is Halloween.   So And I've stopped celebrating   it, unfortunately. Yeah. That used to be my holiday.   I used to have my whole front yard,   which is probably   40 by 60 feet   big.   Man, I got and I got a oak tree in my front yard.   I used to have a 30 foot,   30 foot, what the fuck is it? Spider's web that I would build from my one of the tree limbs down onto the yard.   Oh, yeah? Yeah. No.   No. And I used to have a graveyard.   I probably had about 30 tombstones.  

[01:33:19] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[01:33:20] Rich Chelson:

But they're all on the tote. Yeah. They're all on the tote. Yeah. I used to that used to be my old  

[01:33:26] Bryan Goodwin:

are pissed   too.  

[01:33:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Well, our whole pretty much our whole block   has gone to the point where there might be,   probably what is it? My block has about   40 houses from one stop sign to another.   And there might be 3 houses   within   that that 40 that give out candy.   Because there's no there's no kids right here in our, you know,   there's no   small kid families   within my block.  

[01:34:06] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that that and they've all gone to trunk or treats.  

[01:34:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's true. Well, see, I got   we do it too. Our Jeep does several Jeep groups and I and do trunk or treat every year. I didn't participate this year, but, yeah, the a lot of them are going to trunk or treat.   Yep.  

[01:34:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I noticed that when because I had to go to the VA today and,   shit. Even the VA does a trunk or treat.   And, I mean, everywhere I turned, you know, you saw signs,   that trunk or treat this way, trunk or treat this way. It's like, well, fuck. Fuck. No wonder why kids don't go out no more. Yeah. Kids don't go out anymore. I mean, come on. That was all the fun of, of  

[01:34:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Halloween. Why why try Halloween anymore when you're not gonna,   I don't know what the pa what is this fascination with this trunk or treat bull crap?   Oh, it's it's a safety issue. No. It's not a fucking safety issue. People wanna think it's a safety issue, but it's not a damn safety issue.   Right. Oh, no. I get you, man. I get you. And this gets me wound up because goddamn, man. It's like   first off, you know, back in the eighties, what were we all told we need to be having,   can't be,   have your parents inspect your candy.   Yeah. Why? For something that never   ever   happened. The closest that they came to was there was a scene   in Halloween   2   where a kid bit into a popcorn ball with a razor blade.  



[01:35:42] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:35:44] Bryan Goodwin:

The closest thing that they had was a 100 years before that,   a doctor   or a pharmacist   had accidentally   mixed up   the,   mixed up a prescription   and had given it he was actually going to,   poison his family or his kids and he had,   and he because he got,   or no, the the mixed up, the prescription was the,   was why the food and drug. But a pharmacist was going to was, actually gonna kill his kids.   It was just gonna do a murder suicide with, with poison,   with poison candy.   But,   he ended up chicken, chickening out on that.   Right.  

So not even then did he actually even kill anybody with poison candy or candy with razor blades or anything like that? None of this has ever happened   yet. We've got some   and in all reality, kidnappings   of kids   are way down.   Right. But yet you look at, you look at the statistics   and they're like, oh my gosh. You know, they're they're through the roof. No.   They're reporting   everything. A child that when somebody calls and says, hey. My child didn't,   isn't home yet.   That was a missing child. That was miss that was a child being being reported as missing.   The child was an hour late from getting home from school. You know, the child missed the bus.  

All this type of stuff that was,   that was all being reported the same as   my child has been kidnapped.  

[01:37:31] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:37:35] Bryan Goodwin:

And so   and so there's, there it's just   we've got a whole bunch of, you know, what what we'd love to hear these days. Word of the word of the year. We've got misinformation,   malinformation.   Be and has taken kids who have had a   could have had a wonderful time showing off their   their,   their costumes,   walked around, got some good exercise, walked all over the the neighborhood,   had some good funny and fun, scary times. The young young teens, the preteens and stuff would've had a great time walking around trying to   trying to figure out the best way to get the most loot for the least amount of work   Correct.  

And all that. But yet   it doesn't ever happen. It doesn't happen now. Why?   Because, oh, well, we're gonna just do trunk or treat. No. And I get it. It's easy. You've got 13 different,   cars,   cars at the church who've got their trunks open. You can go by and go trick or treat and you get you know, you've hit 13 houses,   basically. No. That's it's   it's it's lazy for 1. And and Josh said the same thing as lazies. Parents are just driving them to the door to door.   It's, it's a lazy ass thing that on parents,   as well.   And I agree. It's just everything that he that's   about this is just like, come on. No, get your kid out there.  

Take, you know, let him walk the street, knock on the doors.   I mean, we've stopped doing Halloween because   the past 3 years   went off, got a whole bunch of I mean, granted, I like the fact that I had a shit ton of candy   with my, like Yeah. You didn't have any trick or treaters, but you had plenty of candy left there. Was not a big fan of all that candy.   But, you know,   at the same time, yeah, I   didn't I did we didn't have a single person   stop by our house.   And   so, you know, last 2   last 2 years, well, actually, we just we don't even turn the light on. We're just like, alright.   If I happen to be home, it's like, alright. Whatever.  

But, no, we don't have a knock one. And it's sad. It's like, come on.   Halloween was this great wonderful time where kids got to be boogeymen and and be the scary critters and and stuff. And   now?   Yeah. I mean, they   you we wonder why kids have a hard time,   you know   What? Adjusting to life? Adjusting to life. Doing the hard thing. You know? Oh my god. I gotta go walk to a complete stranger's house, knock on their door and ask for candy.   Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:40:30] Duuude-Ron :

No. No.   I'm scared. I don't I don't I don't know how I I I got social anxiety.  

[01:40:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, stop get having it, and you'll get candy, dude.  

[01:40:41] Duuude-Ron :

Simple.   You want candy? Yeah. You just Suck it up, buddy. Dump.   If not, I'm gonna go get it, and I ain't gonna share.  

[01:40:51] Rich Chelson:

Exactly. Take say it again. Take a  

[01:40:54] Bryan Goodwin:

look. See how see how that, social anxiety kicks in when all of a sudden news gets out that the the house over on on, Avenue r is giving out full size candy bars.  

[01:41:06] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. Yeah. Really?  

[01:41:08] Bryan Goodwin:

You find that that that illustrious   full size candy bar place.   Oh my god. Yeah. You ain't gonna have social anxiety anymore. That stuff thing just evaporated like fart in the wind.  

[01:41:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You know, it's I'm I remember I remember when,   I was I was still doing Halloween. You know? It's just I was a little kid. But, yeah, we'd get full size candy bars. I'm talking the whole damn thing. We didn't have this fun size snacks that what Whatever the We made our we made our candy.  

[01:41:40] Bryan Goodwin:

No. We didn't. I mean Oh, we did. I mean, we we had you know, we would do the the   the the popcorn balls and the fudge. And I mean, I'm my stepmom   was a kid is a kid well, she's technically, she still likes to make candy. She makes   I mean, she that's where she gets a lot of her a lot of her extra Christmas money is, during   during the Christmas season, she's making,   making peanut patties.  

[01:42:10] Duuude-Ron :

No problem.  

[01:42:12] Bryan Goodwin:

God, I hate peanut patties. I   hate   Tastes great. I mean, she makes some incredible peanut patties,   but, oh my God. I hate making the book and things. It's because you have to stir and stir and stir and stir, and you can't stop stirring. You have to keep stirring and you have to use a wooden spoon because if you try to use a metal spoon, it doesn't turn out right. So you have to use a wooden spoon and you're sitting there stirring, and it gets thicker and thicker. And you're like, oh my god. I'm gonna die.   And yeah. Yeah. There was and I I found neat interesting ways of being able to torque that, that spoon just right when I was a teenager   to where I would break the handle off   and and and stuff, and then I would usually get hit with the handle and then get given another one and told get back to work. So but so it didn't work quite as a plan, but at the same time, you know, it was   Right. She she could make candy. And, I mean, we would have popcorn balls, and there was another time we had cinnamon discs.  

And they were   it was hard, it was hard rock candy.   It was, you know, take sugar, and you would you would, and,   Karo syrup,   and you would, and you would work it, you would cook it until it got to I think it's called hard crack stage, which sounds really funny.   But now nowadays, since we have the word crack available but you would get it to where it was a real,   to a hard crack. I think it's hard crack. Might be just a little bit   it it was fucking hard shit. Alright? He he didn't wanna get hit with a damn a damn cinnamon disc. Alright? It hurt.   But and she would take just cinnamon oil, and she would put some cinnamon oil in there, and we would, you know, and we'd take it, wrap it up, saran wrap, and that was the good stuff. And we would act we had, Halloween, Halloween carnival.  

And to to as a means of competing,   who's going to win the, you know,   the king and queen, the, the,   the prince and princess, the because we had the whole   Halloween royal court. So we had the dukes and the duchesses and the   and and the,   barons and the baronesses   and and knights and and knaves and and all the other things. All right. So we had the lords and the ladies and the yada yada yada, all the way down to 1st grade. So there was 12   stages in this.   And,   and what we would do in is we would go, we would all take,   all all the parents would get together and they would all make candy, and we knew who we wanted to buy from. So we we   knew that,   and, you know, if the because there was one girl, her name's Lonnell,   and her mom made these cinnamon buns   or cinnamon rolls   that were   about twice the size of a softball   around   and stood a good 6 inches tall.  

Those were some cinnamon rolls. They I mean, and they were some cinnamon.   Oh my god. And so, I mean, there was   she was she was one of our, one of the class's favorite,   favorite moms just because she she had come walking in with, you know, 12 praise of cinnamon rolls for for, for band and stuff like that, and they were, oh. But   so but, I mean and we knew who would is gonna make the the good shit.   And so we would go, you know, we would have all these all these,   all this candy and,   you know,   1st grade, 2nd grade, you know, the elementary would,   have one day and the elementary students would go from 1st grade to 2nd to the 2nd graders,   classes and and   sell, sell their candy. And then the 2nd grade they would go to the 3rd graders and sell to them and 4th grade to sell to them   until everybody was out of candy.  

And we would just keep going up. So sometimes the 8th graders kinda got gypped because they were kind of the last ones.   And, so they would after everybody ran out of candy, then,   you were done selling for the day and, the next day, here comes the 2nd graders, and they would do the same thing, start a 1st grade and work their way on up.   And, you know, and people planned, You know? So when   you say if Linnell was,   Linnell's   cinnamon rolls were were on,   were on a Thursday,   you might, you might be saying, hell, yeah. I'm gonna get I get some money for, for candy, and it'd be, like, 25¢,   dollar, whatever it was, you know, the and we would kinda just hold off and we would save it and store it   and, and scroll it away until we knew that, hey. We knew we know Lanell's coming around here on, on Thursday and buy them.  

I hope I get there 1st.   Because they're gonna be gone. If not, I'm gonna and   if not, then yeah. Alright. Fine. I'm going ahead, and I'll get a get a popcorn ball and, you know, and   rice crispy treats. That was another big one that everybody would make. And, I mean, some people would make big, old, thick, you know,   thing look like a look like a cross section between, on a 2 by 4. You know? Just, god, big, old, monstrous things.  

[01:47:34] Duuude-Ron :

Great, Hang on. Let me ask this question. What   and   and y'all can laugh at me. It's okay. Because, I I know I'm weird about this. But what's the big fucking deal about a cinnamon roll?  

[01:47:48] Bryan Goodwin:

It's good.   It's sugar. It's basically, it's just a good confectionery   sugar   type of, Tom. I mean, yeah, I I've I've, I've, I've, and when it's made right, they taste the, the, the cinnamon   and the cinnamon's not too overpowering.   It's great, but no, I've had cinnamon rolls that were just   dog   crap. I mean, they were just,   there was too much cinnamon in it and they just went overboard   and not enough not enough icing on it to to balance the,   the cinnamon out because cinnamon is actually really   bitter.  

[01:48:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, no. I've I've I've I've tried the spoonful of cinnamon challenge. And, yeah,   I it  

[01:48:34] Bryan Goodwin:

I was gonna say I was gonna say, moron. Wow. That's a that that not a good thing to try because, I mean, that's I   I tried it with, with the cocoa powder   because, yeah, I don't do I don't do the cinnamon. Not to mention if you accidentally suck that down your lungs, you're you're in trouble.   So Right.  

[01:48:52] Duuude-Ron :

But no, man. And and, I mean, maybe once every 5 years, I can handle   a good cinnamon roll. Mhmm. But other than that,   I I really I don't I don't care about I I I don't like cinnamon roll.   And I I don't know, honestly, I don't know why.   You know?  

[01:49:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I'm sure it's probably a lot like,   it's just one of those well,   it's a lot of times,   like,   for me,   I'll eat donuts.   But if I, if, if there's a choice between donuts and anything else, I will choose anything else every time.   Mhmm. I am not the biggest fan of donuts.  

[01:49:37] Duuude-Ron :

I love donuts.  

[01:49:39] Bryan Goodwin:

I agree with But, you know, there's   there's times when they like like, with a a cinnamon roll,   it's just a little too much. So, yeah, from time to time, you know, maybe once every, every,   leap year, you know, 29th February. Yeah. It's time for cinnamon roll. I enjoy the cinnamon roll. I'm we're good. And we're we carry on.   The only place I'll really like cinnamon on is on my apple pie.   I'm not a big cinnamon toast,   fan at all. And I'm and I grew up on the stuff.   I'd go stay stay with my grandma and she would in the morning, that's what she would make. She'd make,   my my, my   one of my grandmas was may always make, cinnamon toast. And the way she made it is she would take,   take margarine in. It was margarine.  

And she would   make 5 and she would cut little 5 thin slivers of of, of block of,   block,   margarine. Put 1 on each corner and 1 in the middle.   Put a layer of sugar, layer of cinnamon, throw it in the, in the broiler, cook it up till it's nice and brown, pull it out, add it perfect.   I mean, consistency, crunchiness, and all that, Perfect.   But, oh God, it was,   it was like Jesus Christ, man.  

[01:51:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:51:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Send, I, I get it cinnamon. You like, but, I, I'm not a big fan of tree bark. All right.  

[01:51:10] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. No. Yeah. I mean, I mean, cinnamon done right. It's it's it's it's very good in it stuff. Yeah. When it's done sparingly.  

[01:51:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And this is the same woman. I'm loved her loved her, her, her apple pie for the very same reason, except she didn't put as much cinnamon on there. She went, she went sparingly on it   and then she would take the pie crust,   little strips of it leftover pie crust, and she would turn them into pie crust cinnamon sticks. Oh, man. And Ollie.   Ollie. They were those were good. I I will give you that. And but she didn't coat it. That kid had a buffet on them. Oh, hell yeah. I mean, just move on.   And she would she would slather some butter on to, you know, melt some butters,   well, margarine,   and and and brush it on, throw some sugar, little bit of cinnamon, not too much cinnamon,   and throw it in the oven, bake it to work until it was nice and crispy, pull it out, and oh my god. You would think that was the grand the greatest thing in the world because all us grandkids would come fighting for it. Oh, hell yeah. I mean, it was not gonna drag down fight in my house. Oh, yeah.  



[01:52:18] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   And   y'all have met my youngest sister. I tell you what. She   she's a scrappy little shit.   I'm telling you. I mean, I probably   still have deep bruises from her.  

[01:52:38] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's because you're an idiot.  

[01:52:40] Bryan Goodwin:

What is it?  

[01:52:42] Rich Chelson:

Josh And she also and Shelton had to prove herself too. It is true.  

[01:52:47] Duuude-Ron :

Josh threw in And, yeah, I was an ass when when we were kids. So, yeah, I wasn't I wasn't very nice.   And so he messaged me. Yeah.  

[01:52:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Josh Josh chimed in with, tallboys are the equivalent of full size candy bars for adults. I might, might help take some of these hoodlums if they if they were, were the case. So I agree. Yeah. Throw in some beers for the adults. That would work  

[01:53:11] Rich Chelson:

quite well. Yeah. There's a thing come across, you know, my Facebook meme. It says,   you know, candy Halloween for kids.   Why doesn't liquor stores   hand out those little mini bottles for Halloween?  

[01:53:27] Duuude-Ron :

Right? Why? I mean,   they don't need to charge 2.50 for a bottle. I mean, they don't pay but 75¢   a bottle. They could eat that. Yeah. If that. Yeah. If that.   Yeah. If that. I'm just saying, they could eat that cost.   You know? Yeah. It would it would it would bring more people in. Like like a liquor store really needs help in in that department.   I mean,   you know, smoke shops and, liquor stores,   2 in gas stations,   3 businesses   that really need no advertising.  

[01:54:04] Rich Chelson:

Nope.   None.  

[01:54:07] Duuude-Ron :

No one just just   pop a store up,   name it,   put what you have,   and sit back and write the money in.  

[01:54:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Just call it the great tobacco store, and you would have you would have people showing up automatically.  

[01:54:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. People would be rolling.   Yeah.   It's it's that's freaking moneymaker.   Straight up. It's moneymaker.   And then, oh my god,   add cannabis to it. ChaChang?  

[01:54:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I'll I mean,   depending on where you're at. Because some places you could actually go in. So, yeah, you could actually, like, go to the tobacco section and stuff.   And I don't know. There may be there maybe Oklahoma's got a rule where you can't,   you can't mix the 2, but because there for a while, I mean, if you were in a liquor store, you couldn't have limes   or ice   for sale at a liquor store.  

[01:55:07] Duuude-Ron :

Why?  

[01:55:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Because they were considered food items, and you could not have food and liquor mixed together.  

[01:55:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my gosh. Really? Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:55:17] Bryan Goodwin:

And at the same time, they also didn't trust us with regular   full strength beer, so we had that low point out low point beer shit then.   That old three ten I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But the, the there   I think I think the the   misinterpretation   of what Anokey was went a little too far   there for there for a while in Oklahoma. So I guess they were afraid that Oklahomans would not know how to handle themselves if they actually got   got real alcohol. But then again, it's a job. We have liquor stores. Here  

[01:55:53] Rich Chelson:

here you go though. Here's the thing with Oklahoma,   especially in Texas.   If and see, yeah, Oklahoma, they don't need alcohol   because   people with Oklahoma plates driving down the road,   they're just a bunch of fucking shitheads.  

[01:56:11] Bryan Goodwin:

You know what they say, but you know what Oklahoman say about Texas, though. Right?   Don't care. Same damn thing. They say goddamn all the I hate driving in Texas because they're freaking freaking the assholes in the route.   And to a point, I would agree with them.   I Because I get flipped off   and honked at and raged at more times in Texas than I ever have in Oklahoma.   Really?   Oh, God. Yeah. I get, you know,   going to going to, in Amarillo, which I I granted   I understand in Amarillo,   when the light turns green, you better be better be mashing that damn gas pedal down quick because   those lights are like 30 minutes sit along.  

And if you don't make it across in that time, you're gonna be sitting there for a while and you better hope you have enough gas in the tank until it changes again.   It is I don't know why they make I I know that's actually technically probably about a minute long, maybe a minute and a half.   But goddamn, that's some of the longest fucking lights I have ever come across in my life.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's very true. And and so I I I do get if you're if you're 2 seconds too slow on mashing on the on the gas pedal,   I understand   people are gonna honk at you.  

But I get people who literally, the moment that it turns green, if your foot is not off that pedal   within about   0.25   seconds,   you got jackasses laying on the damn horn.   And I've had that I mean, I've had that in in several places.   You go into turn and you somebody comes flying past you, flipping you their hands stick it out the window. They're laying on the horn, flipping you the bird. You're like, alright. Well, I don't know what I did, but okay. Well, fine. Fuck you too. And, you know, and turn around. Go ahead and turn and go on in to wherever you're going.   But yeah. I mean, I've gotten flipped off.  

You know,   while I have more people trying to brake check me in the truck, in a semi   in Texas than I do in Oklahoma.   And, I mean, I it didn't bother me with people trying to break check me. It's like, alright. Fine. I've got fucking   radar on the damn truck. So I just,   I just set the cruise, and they stop, and I'll stop.   And then they'll start trying to go again, and I'll I'll   creep along also. And so I just let it idle and let them just sit there and be a be an idiot. I've had one person that got   that, they got a little Instacarma.   But  

[01:59:02] Rich Chelson:

because I was I I love Instacarma.  

[01:59:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, god. Out of your day. It's one of those I wish I wish there was more instant karma  

[01:59:11] Rich Chelson:

than there actually is. And,   again, for us that   our occupations   are out on the road,   you know,   would love to have more instant karma than what there is because there is a lot of, yeah, there's a lot of shithead drivers. I will give you that.   And,   but I've just had the experience where the plates from Oklahoma just,   you   know   Well,  

[01:59:42] Bryan Goodwin:

yeah. Well, we You know? Now granted, yeah, Oklahomans do not know how to drive in Dallas traffic.   You you actually have to gear up like you're going into the Thunderdome. I give you that. You need to have your chainsaws,   your your your guy with,   on the, on the on the,   on the doofer wagon and and his guitar with the flamethrower on the end. You know? You gotta you gotta be   set up like Mad Max   going into Dallas. I mean, you gotta you gotta be geared for, you gotta have your loins girded and everything because, yeah, it's it's a fight to the fight to the death in DFW Metroplex area.  

[02:00:20] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah.   Without without a doubt on that one.  

[02:00:24] Duuude-Ron :

I can say I can say   both y'all states down here in Mississippi.   Y'all lose your fucking minds down here because y'all ain't seen the fucking   the gulf, and there's,   I mean,  

[02:00:39] Bryan Goodwin:

20 mile an hour maybe on a 45 mile an hour route. It's like But I was gonna say, yeah. What do y'all y'all get the bunch of the folks in Mississippi start getting nervous when they get close to 30 miles an hour, don't they? So  

[02:00:52] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. We now now   now it's funny, though. A lot of people from Texas down here Uh-huh.   They still running a 100 mile an hour like they're in fucking Dallas Fort Worth. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. No. You you Of   course. At their at their guns out and their saws out and shit. And it's like, hey. Well, yeah, because I mean,  

[02:01:13] Bryan Goodwin:

you you've seen how big Texas is. You have to drive a 100 miles an hour to make it to where you're needing to go within the day.  

[02:01:20] Duuude-Ron :

Not down here.  

[02:01:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, not there, but you know, we're used to, we're used to taking, taking a caravan and 4 day trip to go from, to go see the family over in Longview. So, you know Well, no. That's true. It's it's a long ass fucking ride across the whole thing. Fucking ride.  

[02:01:37] Duuude-Ron :

I've done it more once, but yeah. But now it's like it's like, yo, dude. Slow down.   Chill. Take your time. Have a have a have a Coke and a smile.  

[02:01:51] Rich Chelson:

I love that. Right? As what yeah. And,   what,   Friar was his first name, the comedian.   Richard   Pryor?   Yeah. Would tell, Bill Cosby. Yeah. That coke and a smile. Yeah. Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up.  

[02:02:09] Duuude-Ron :

I was I was thinking of the movie Bad Boys when when,  

[02:02:15] Bryan Goodwin:

when it's Will Smith and, and Martin.  

[02:02:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And,  

[02:02:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Martin Lawrence. Oh, yeah. That's his name. All I know is it was Martin.  

[02:02:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Martin Lawrence and his wife was arguing and stuff, and Will Smith was   was, like, yellow cake. Y'all need a sandwich or anything? And Martin Lawrence looks at Will Smith. He says, no. Go have a Coke and a smile.   I   I love that. They just I don't know why. Yes. You know?   It's one of the movies I I have seen   a few times. A few times. A few times.  

[02:02:52] Rich Chelson:

Now I did have a friend that, originally was from Massachusetts and them got well, and he even says, yeah. They call their drivers mass holes.  

[02:03:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Mass holes.  

[02:03:03] Rich Chelson:

Instead of ass holes, mass holes. Yep. Mass holes. Yep. Yep.   Now I've never been to Massachusetts, but, you know, he grew up in Massachusetts and say, yeah, them people?   Yeah.   They're driving?   No.  

[02:03:20] Duuude-Ron :

They did not know how to drive. Hey. David, he ain't lying. I've been in I've been up Boston,   Saugus, all all throughout Massachusetts.   Oh, yeah. No. Mhmm.   That is that is a whole another   category of driving   out there.  

[02:03:39] Bryan Goodwin:

So your friend your friend's,   when he says he lost his khakis, you don't know whether he's talking about his pants or his car keys. Right?  

[02:03:49] Rich Chelson:

You're all gonna be there.  

[02:03:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. What Yeah. Yeah.   I lost my khakis.  

[02:03:58] Duuude-Ron :

No? Yeah.   Yeah.   Up up in New England, that could stand for your pants, a pair of khakis or your khakis.  

[02:04:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Your khakis.  

[02:04:09] Duuude-Ron :

Your khaki.   Because that's right around here.  

[02:04:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Yep. That one that one that one that you   you need you need to tease your hair up just a little higher there, Ron. That one went got past you.  

[02:04:26] Rich Chelson:

No. No. My hair. Yeah.  

[02:04:31] Duuude-Ron :

I will I will say this, though.   I've I've ran in and out of New York. You know, I ran in and out of New York City,   Yonkers, the Bronx, Brooklyn,   all over Long Island, all over the state of New York. And I love   I love the New York accent, especially on the females and   and especially if they get pissed   and start going, oh my god. It just it's it's like it's like,  

[02:04:59] Bryan Goodwin:

it's like crack to me. I just it's just like Oh, no. I get I get you there. I mean, there there is something about the New York,   especially New York city girls. Well, and that attitude that they, that they Oh, I got it. They get because because of being a a New York city girl.   Right. Yes. Something about that is just, yeah. Yeah. That's a that's a freaking hot ass attitude. She'll probably kill you in your sleep. But by the end, you you you're gonna have a boner while you're doing it. So Yeah. My god.  

[02:05:32] Duuude-Ron :

And and and, I mean, I I I loved going to New York. And, you know,   freaking a lot of people thought   thought I was stupid for because I love driving in Chicago.   And, oh my god, people are like, oh my god. Chicago's bad. And I'm like, fuck too.   I love Chicago. That shit.   There ain't nothing wrong with Chicago.   You know, go to New York City.   That's bad.  

[02:05:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Don't stop the lights. You just pop. And in the middle of the night, you don't stop the red light. You just keep going driving through.  

[02:06:05] Duuude-Ron :

You that's exactly right.   That's exactly right. You don't stop at a red light at night in,   New York City.   South Manhattan,   Bronx, Brooklyn, Hunts Point. No, sir.   You roll through them lights, and and and the cops will let you. They will. The cops.   I I've I've done it in front of cops,   and they just sit there.   Light turns green, and they just continue on the way they were continuing   on. Yep.  

[02:06:37] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. I'm   no. I'm not taking a rig through New York.  

[02:06:42] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I wouldn't either.  

[02:06:44] Rich Chelson:

Chicago.   I don't fucking think so.  

[02:06:47] Bryan Goodwin:

No. And I I wouldn't go through New York City anyhow.   I'm just I'm I'm at the state,   frame of mind with   with   California as a as a whole state and New York   City as as itself.   And Right. That, that either one of those, I think all trucks need to just stop going to them. Let those let those folks just figure out why trucks are so important.   Yeah. Just need to stop just need to stop for about 2 weeks. Not not the week that everybody says. Give them 2 weeks so society really breaks down   good and hard. So it really sets in of, oh my god. We need trucks. And yeah. So lay off the fucking stupid ass emission rules that you have because you're not actually fixing anything.  

[02:07:37] Duuude-Ron :

Hey, Brian.   Say a New York city has maybe   a half a day's worth of food. Oh, yeah. No. I've I've heard that many times. It would take it would take it would take maybe 2 days,   and New York would crumble. LA,   it would take a little longer. Yeah. I'd say maybe close to a week.   But but then   the time it would take to restock everything,   oh my god.  

[02:08:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Oh, I'm oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm sure it would take take a long ass time, but at the same time, I bet if if, if their people were to stop stop   deliver bringing trucks in, which, I mean, I know is a pie in the sky dream because   you're always gonna have somebody going, well, I'll I'll I'll take that load. Yeah. Yeah. You know? And they'll they'll always be somebody who runs a picket line. So   Or or  

[02:08:30] Duuude-Ron :

or or they'll say or they'll say, well, I got a family to feed. I can't I can't lose my job.   You dumbass. Your company can't fire everybody.   I'm sorry. It would take them too long. They would go bankrupt trying to hire a couple hundred drivers overnight.   Right. And the insurance company would would shoot 3, 4 something down.  

[02:08:55] Rich Chelson:

So And, you know, there and and still   there would be no   there would still be no respect   for truck driver.   Even after that happened   and everything got back to normal,  

[02:09:08] Bryan Goodwin:

there would be no respect. Oh, no. There wouldn't because they they   they because they they still would blame   the truck drivers for not not bringing them the food to,   food,   when they were needing to be brought. So Right. Right.  

[02:09:24] Duuude-Ron :

But yeah. No. That's,   yeah. I tell you that's,   yeah. I I loved running New York.   I took a load of almonds down to, the Bronx   in,   the place I had to go to.   It was it was in   amongst   houses,   and it was an actual business.   And,   I had to go up 2 blocks past   the street that I was supposed to be on because   cars were double parked, and I couldn't make the turn.   And then and then I had to turn   down a one way street,   and then I had to make a right turn on another one   the wrong way on a one way street, come back down 2 street,   and then   I could make another right turn on the street I was supposed to be on. And I wound up parking on the sidewalk   right in front of this company.  

And   I went to bed, locked the doors, went to bed.   Next morning, they they awoke me up, told me to pull up and open my doors, and they unloaded me right there on the sidewalk.  

[02:10:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow.  

[02:10:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh, yeah. Brought out a big old ramp and a forklift and ran up because I see, I had big old tubs,   like like, 8 foot round tubs of almonds.   And,   I forget I forget exactly what these guys made. I don't know if it was almond coffee or   flour or almond flour or something.   But, yeah, they   took a whole a whole load of almonds from, California   all the way to New York City.   And that was,   that was the last time I was in,   New York City. I was,   that was so that was,   2010,   20, yeah, 2010, I think.   I think so.   But, yeah. That was the last time I was in. Goes from there, say I went to Yonkers,   picked up 2,   pitcher frames.  

Like, 20 foot by 30 foot.  

[02:11:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Well Oh, okay. Yeah.  

[02:11:46] Duuude-Ron :

The, freaking picture frames in a Amber, Crombie, and Fitch. I don't know if you've ever seen those pictures.  

[02:11:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:11:56] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well, well, those frames there are made by a special company in Yonkers, New York.   And   they would hire   our trucks   to load   1 or 2 frames   normally.   And they would pay for the whole truck rate,   and that's all we would haul. And we would take them out to an, Abercrombie and Fitch store   out in LA or,   somewhere in California or,   New Mexico or Arizona.   And that would be all we had in   the in the because, these were,   handmade frames.  

[02:12:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow.  

[02:12:42] Duuude-Ron :

Nothing else nothing else was allowed in the truck,   period.   So I I love those loads.   I got awesome fuel mileage.  

[02:12:54] Bryan Goodwin:

I bet.  

[02:12:56] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, literally, 2 frames, not even a £100.   And I'm sitting here riding all the way across from New York to LA.   Fuck. Yeah. Game on, dude.   And,   plus, they give they give me a freaking week to get there. It's like, shit. I ain't got no worse than buggy.   You know? But   I took the week to get there.   I'd go stop whatever truck stop I wanted to go at or   CB shop I wanted to go play in or chrome shop I wanted to go look at, and I just make my way across.   Oh, it was life was good, man.  

[02:13:39] Bryan Goodwin:

It sounds like it.  

[02:13:40] Duuude-Ron :

It was. You ever you ever go to that, what is it, I 80?  

[02:13:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Iowa 80?  

[02:13:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Where is it? In Iowa or something like that? The hugest,   largest truck stop and has the fucking that chrome  

[02:13:55] Bryan Goodwin:

chrome shop? Yeah. Yeah. It's Iowa 80.  

[02:13:58] Duuude-Ron :

Exit 284 on I 80. It's Walcott, Iowa.   Yeah. I, I got snowed in there for 2 days.   I am. In fact in fact,   I was going to that truck stop   before that chrome shop ever was as big as it was.   I was going to it when it was still the old truck stop, and they just had the small little building   with the restaurant and the diesel pumps.   And and that was it.   And then over time, they they had built a chrome shop,   and   they've got the showroom where they've got actual semis full   truck and trailers.   Full semis set up in there. Oh, yeah. I watched, yeah, I watched that,   over the years get built. But, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. I was gonna What's the acreage on that?  

Oh, fuck. Like looking at?  

[02:14:56] Rich Chelson:

10, 20 acres,   the parking lot.   I can't remember what it was. Spent so long ago.  

[02:15:07] Duuude-Ron :

Well, let's just say this. I know it'll hold 2,000 trucks.   I know that for a fact.   So  

[02:15:16] Bryan Goodwin:

at least That's a lot of trucks.  

[02:15:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is.   Yeah. It is. But yeah. No. There's yeah. It'll hold it'll hold at least 2,000 trucks.   I'm guaranteed.   So yeah. No. That one,   that's an old school truck stop.  

[02:15:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Well,   I don't I don't get to drive outside of a 150 air miles, so   oh, well. I guess I'll never see it.   Why? Jump in the jeep and drive up there, dude. Well, I know that too. Yeah. I got I got you. I'll never I'll never see it. I'll never see it in a tractor trailer because   I'm doing everything   possible never to go OTR.   Right. No. Thank you. No. Thank you.   I spent enough time in the military and fucking   didn't get to see my bed. I wanna see that motherfucker every goddamn night.  

[02:16:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I   there's a place out in Wyoming called,   Little America,   And all that's out there is a truck stop that has been there since,   fuck, late sixties,   early seventies.   And it's been called Little America   its whole life.   It's a motel   and and a truck stop   with a small little restaurant.  

[02:16:36] Bryan Goodwin:

With a little restaurant.  

[02:16:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And it's like and it's like 5 miles from the split of US Highway 30   and, Interstate 80. If you take Interstate 80, you, wind up going into,   Utah and all like that in the Salt Lake. And if you split off I 30,   you can cut up into the backside of Idaho   and cut up through, Idaho and,   going up up to the, northwest.   Oh, no kidding. Okay. Oh, yeah. Beautiful, beautiful fucking road. Beautiful country.   Don't cross it in the wintertime. I'm just   warning you.   Don't blame you there. You can if you want, and I have done it many, many times.   I'm just recommend it. It's not for the faint of heart.  

I believe that. You have to be a little bit crazy to   cross US Highway 30   in, the wintertime   because there ain't nothing out there really. Just saying.  

[02:17:43] Rich Chelson:

And, hopefully, the breeze is hopefully, the breeze is isn't strong enough to,   tip you over.  

[02:17:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Let's hope.   Because,   yeah, out there,   20 30 mile an hour winds is is, like, 5 miles an hour down here.   Winds are always blowing up there.  

[02:18:03] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:18:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. I've been stuck in Little America   because, I had to go out 30, and, I couldn't because,   there's a blizzard that hit, and then when I was in Idaho.   And, I I   I was fixing to take 30.   And,   Yeah. I got I got I got snowed in because,   yeah, they they closed 30 because   they, couldn't keep up with it fast enough. The snow is blowing too hard. And it was it was snowing too so yeah.   Yeah. The wintertime,   you definitely   respect them roads, all roads out there, but   especially the back roads.  

[02:18:48] Rich Chelson:

Well yeah.  

[02:18:50] Duuude-Ron :

But oh, yeah. No. It's I mean, it's   honestly,   I had more fun running out west than I did   anywhere else, really,   if you ask me.   Because that's like running up through Oregon   and,   I 84   and seeing the,   falls right there by the highway   and then running up into Portland and then   run up into,   Washington   and and see Seattle and and Portland. And, I I mean, it's   it's cool. Well, it was. I don't know about now. I have not seen it since the riots, so I don't know. But   back in the day,   they was cool places to go.   And and if you ever do make it out west, the northwest   in Oregon,   you go to Portland and you go to Jubett's,   Jubett's truck stop.  

Fucker's been there for since God was a little boy.   That's a cool ass truck stop.   Cool ass truck stop.   So you have to go to Jubez.  

[02:20:01] Rich Chelson:

Jubitz?  

[02:20:03] Duuude-Ron :

J   j u b I t z. Jubitz.   You have to go out there. You have to see it just once. It's cool.   And as far as I know, I don't think they've updated it.   Because the last time I was out there   let's say that was,   2,000, I think.   Now maybe it's 2001. So it's been 20 some years. They hadn't,   updated the truck stop since.   So   let me see if I can see some pictures of Jupids.   They might have updated a little bit.   Looks a little newer from the pictures. So   oh, yeah.   Shit. It's gotten pretty now,   but you still gotta go.   Oh, yeah. It's all fancy now.  

[02:21:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Everybody everybody has to get fancy with time,   except for me. I just get wrinkles.   No. I'm sorry. I don't have wrinkles. I got fucking,   canyons.  

[02:21:24] Duuude-Ron :

Canyons?  

[02:21:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's alright.  

[02:21:29] Duuude-Ron :

Well, let's see. What's that?   Oil of Olay? Does that does that fit?  

[02:21:36] Rich Chelson:

No.   No. It's just like it's just like my beauty sleep. Shit. I'm about 10 years behind on regular sleep, let alone trying to get any fucking beauty sleep.  

[02:21:50] Duuude-Ron :

You can get all the beauty sleep you need when you're dead, dude.  

[02:21:54] Rich Chelson:

That's you are absolutely correct because all I'm gonna be is a pile of fucking ash.   So if you want to just, you know,   sprinkle me in with some fucking,   marijuana and just   smoke me one last time.  

[02:22:08] Duuude-Ron :

Puff puff pass,  

[02:22:09] Rich Chelson:

Yes. That's right. Just like we discussed,   you know, several weeks ago. Puff puff pass.  

[02:22:16] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[02:22:19] Rich Chelson:

I don't know what the hell we were talking. I don't remember what we were talking about with the puff puff pass, but   I   That was that was fucking hilarious.  

[02:22:29] Duuude-Ron :

It was, actually. I I   dang. I   I freaking partially remember, but it's just, like, right there on on the on the tip of my tongue. And I can't it's not  

[02:22:41] Rich Chelson:

I don't, you know, I don't remember, but I was adamant about the puff puff pass.  

[02:22:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You were.  

[02:22:49] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that was funny.   So, no, I'm I'm not even gonna have fucking beauty when   I'm dead. I get no beauty sleep because I'm just gonna be a pile of ash.  

[02:23:03] Duuude-Ron :

Well Or you know?  

[02:23:05] Rich Chelson:

Or maybe I'll do what my grandson wants to do   and just throw my ass in a burlap sack   and plant a tree on me.  

[02:23:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey. We can do that too. That's how the that's how haunted forests are made.  

[02:23:22] Duuude-Ron :

Really?   I did not know this.  

[02:23:26] Rich Chelson:

But that is actually a thing now,   to   be buried up underneath the tree and be fertilizer for a tree. I can't remember where it's at, but there is a fucking whole   area   in a forest that is dedicated for that.   I don't remember where it's at.  

[02:23:46] Duuude-Ron :

Now now now do they just dump you in a burlap bag and bury you in the ground? Or   they would have to burn you first because your bones Nope.  

[02:23:56] Rich Chelson:

Nope.   Nope.   You they will go through the regular process of taking all your   your blood out and so on like that, but they don't embalm you. But, yes, they put your body   into a burlap sack   in a hole and then they put the tree on top of you.   Yeah.   And you're basically the fertilizer for the first part of that tree's life   and,   you know,   yeah, it's your whole body.  

[02:24:29] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Alright. No. It's   I I didn't know that. It just it's like, you know, I mean I mean, it wouldn't bother me. I I don't give 2 shits because,   you know, the body is just a body,  

[02:24:42] Rich Chelson:

you know. Oh, yeah. It's a super vessel.  

[02:24:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's   I mean, yeah, man. Yeah, man. We're all aliens, dude. We're all aliens.   We just don't realize it. We just haven't realized it yet, man.   You know?   Don't know what planet we're from, but we're from a different planet.  

[02:25:05] Rich Chelson:

Well, you personally would you personally, I think, would be from planet planet of the apes.   I   I would have to fucking   I don't think there would be any doubt about that one.  

[02:25:18] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[02:25:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So I was watching I can't remember something on the History Channel or   Smithsonian or something like that that, you know,   we're our solar system,   as far as we are away from our sun,   and then within our solar system, we are in the Milky Way   galaxy.   So we're 1 galaxy. How many   thousands of light years   across our galaxy is?   And the one   what are they? The ones that look at the SARS?  

[02:25:59] Duuude-Ron :

Astrologers.   Oh, astrologers  

[02:26:02] Rich Chelson:

saying that now   and before telescopes,   they estimated there was 1,000,000,000   or millions of galaxies.   And now that we have the telescopes that we have,   there's not billions of galaxy, there's trillions   of galaxies.   Okay?   So   out of the trillions of galaxies,   are we the only ones?  

[02:26:29] Duuude-Ron :

That's a good question.  

[02:26:31] Rich Chelson:

You know?  

[02:26:33] Duuude-Ron :

That's a good question.  

[02:26:36] Rich Chelson:

You know? And it's So and I and trust me. I believe in the bible   very much.   You know?   God made man, you know,   and we are, you know,   god's children. But out of the trillions of galaxies,   there's not another Earth out there someplace?  

[02:27:00] Duuude-Ron :

You know, who knows? Because there there are planets   that that have a lot of the same qualities as Earth have.   I mean,   not   not in our solar system, in other solar systems, but there are there are other planets.  

[02:27:17] Rich Chelson:

So Yeah. Well, there might be one in within the Milky Way. Like I said, it's how many   thousands of light years across just our galaxy?  

[02:27:29] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And you got novas, supernovas, and, I mean, you know, you got shit exploding and collapsing all the time and new shit happening all the time, so   you don't know what's going on.  

[02:27:41] Rich Chelson:

No.  

[02:27:43] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   Yeah. No.  

[02:27:47] Rich Chelson:

Go ahead, dude. But it's amazing that, you know, just to look up in the night sky and think that, okay,   We see the Little Dipper, the Big Dipper.   You can't The 7 Yeah.   The 7 Sisters.  

[02:28:06] Duuude-Ron :

Orion's Belt.  

[02:28:08] Rich Chelson:

Orion's Belt, you know, all that and just think, okay.   And stuff that you can't see, and there are   trillion trillions of galaxies   that they're guesstimating are out there.   Yeah.  

[02:28:25] Duuude-Ron :

No. It's  

[02:28:27] Rich Chelson:

And and some that the light from that galaxy hasn't even reached Earth yet.  

[02:28:32] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And and you see, that's the things. You know, some of them stars have have extinguished themselves. We just haven't seen the light   vanish yet  

[02:28:42] Rich Chelson:

because it takes  

[02:28:43] Duuude-Ron :

because it takes so long to get to Earth.  

[02:28:47] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. It's taken millions of years for that particular,   say that star burned out   9000000 years ago, but it's 10000000 years   light years away,   you know, that light will still be coming here for another   1000000 years before it is no longer seen.   Right. Oh, yeah.  

[02:29:08] Duuude-Ron :

But, see, that's where that's where and and, I mean, I mean, this is where I've I've always had kind of a,   kerfuffle,   I guess.   What this is is   where did they get   these 1000000 of years?   I mean, I mean, how? I mean, doing the math.   You know,   who thought of the math to use   for for,   you know, what we calculate   as, like, distance, like,   you know, one light year is, you know, because I say light is a 186,000   miles per second, if I remember right.  

[02:29:51] Bryan Goodwin:

It's faster than I can run.  

[02:29:54] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   But but yeah. See, that's the thing. You know? It's like it's like it's like, how do you come to the fact   that, okay,   you know,   the star is is, 10,000,000 miles   or light years away?  

[02:30:12] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean A lot of it, from what I understand, is on how they were able to figure a lot of that out was through things like the Doppler effect,   because there was actually light shifting.   The the,   the light that that was coming through us   had shifted, and they were able to kinda determine   triangulate   through,   you know, what the, what the light was in 1, one phase as opposed to another,   another phase.   And, also, just   the,   use of, like,   the radio antennas and things like that?  

[02:30:50] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Yeah. I could yeah. Because when when, you was talking, I was sitting here thinking. It's like, hold on to you dumbass.   I I was I was talking to myself at this time, not you.   But but I was sitting here thinking, it's like, hold it. You know, if I'm sitting here trying to make a ham radio contact to a satellite,   I have to allow for the Doppler shift.   Okay? Because Right. Some lights,   satellites,   say I have a Doppler shift   and everything like that. And that actually comes into play. And when you said radio antennas, I'm like,   hello, dumbass.  

Okay. You know, it's like, alright. I just yeah.   Without thinking my question through,   you know,   I I I mean, I didn't answer my question, but it   kinda helped make it   less of a kerfuffle.   I understand. That word. I just like that word. I'm sorry.   Hey. There's a lot of wrong. And it's  

[02:31:53] Rich Chelson:

at 9:30   at night, kerfuffle.  

[02:31:57] Duuude-Ron :

Holy shit. I'm I'm like testing the waters, dude. I'm like No. Using the fucking waters.  

[02:32:05] Rich Chelson:

You you're past testing the waters on on big words at this time of night.   Right. Right. That's just that's just one of those,  

[02:32:15] Bryan Goodwin:

damn.  

[02:32:18] Duuude-Ron :

You know, this has been a weird week. I've I've been feeling weird all freaking week. Yeah. I just I just haven't felt right. And   the freaking voices in my head, man, they just   they're just, like, all over the place right now. And it's just like, really? Why?   Why? What what have I done to you, man? I haven't done nothing.   Oh, yeah. Trust me. It's you don't wanna be in my mind right now.  

[02:32:44] Rich Chelson:

Well, the   same way with, you don't wanna be in mine.   Right. You know? And I I totally agree with that.   You know?   However,   if you are a   homeschooling   parent   and you get into a   physical confrontation with the principal,   you're having a bad day.   Yeah.  

[02:33:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Agreed.  

[02:33:13] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. Yeah. I would just say screw it and go back to bed at at that point.   I'd be like, I'm out.  

[02:33:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   No use in having that no use in having that argument.  

[02:33:28] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   It's like, damn. Yeah. It's it's just, yeah, it's just freaking time to go back to bed.   Call it a day.  

[02:33:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No shit.  

[02:33:40] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, god.   But, yeah. No. That's yeah. I I don't know why I I didn't   I didn't think   of the Doppler shift in the light because lights have radio waves   or or have wavelengths,   you know, just like, you know, radios and antennas and shit like this.   And, oh, oh, guess what? I had   I I had I had my electrocardiogram   today.  

[02:34:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah?  

[02:34:13] Duuude-Ron :

It was actually pretty fucking cool. It was intriguing.   I mean, honestly, it was. I mean, first off first off, I had this cute little girl that just   just a little sweetheart. She, like, 5 foot 2, blonde hair, and just cute as a button.   Real sweetheart.   And,   you know, I   I I just figured, you know, the girl's like, you know,   take your shirt off and lay on the thing here. And I'm sitting here. It's like, god. I gotta lay down. Fuck. I hate doing that   because I have a hard time getting up anyway. It's just like, yeah, I don't like it. But   so I did it, and I just figured the girl was just gonna   pin some leads on me,   run a piece of paper that had some lines on it,   rip it off, and say, okay. You're good. See you later. Bye. Right?  

Right. Oh, no. No. No. No.   No. She put leads on me, 3 of them.   And then she squirted this goo   and on this little wand thingy, and she did an ultrasound of my heart.  

[02:35:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[02:35:20] Duuude-Ron :

And I got to watch it.   So, yes, I can say I have a heart, damn it.  

[02:35:29] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, I use that a lot, but I do have a heart. Hey. I saw it. Okay? I saw it. Well, yeah, it was on the screen. It wasn't it. I bet you I bet you saw it on a screen, which doesn't mean that it was that might have actually been yours. It might have been the the poor sap she she stuffed in the closet earlier.  

[02:35:47] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right. Right. But yeah. No. It was funny. And,  

[02:35:53] Rich Chelson:

Did you get to see what color it was?   If it was anything like mine, it's nice and black.  

[02:35:59] Duuude-Ron :

It was black and white. I mean, and but but it did have and it was funny because I saw some flashes of red and blue. And and I asked her, I said, honey, I said,   why do I have the popo inside me?   And she kinda laughed. She was like, oh, fuck.   She kinda laughed, and she was like, well, that's your blood flow. It tells me   where your blood flow is, and and she took wavelengths   or, you know, of the heartbeat and the heart muscle and, you know, the blood flow and everything. And it was actually cool because I got to see the actual wavelength,   you know, the time cycle and every I mean, it was it was fascinating.  

You know? I mean, I won't I won't go into detail. You know, I could, but I won't. But it was just it was just actually cool. And and, actually, I got talking to her, and she loves to do   loves everything about   doing,   what's that called?   What's that word I'm thinking of, guys?   Optologist. What's your sound?  

[02:37:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Proctology.  

[02:37:12] Rich Chelson:

Well, you wanted you wanted a word. I wanted a word that works. Yeah. You you got a word.  

[02:37:18] Duuude-Ron :

That's not the word I was thinking of, but alright, dude. It's a word.  

[02:37:23] Rich Chelson:

Cardiology?  

[02:37:25] Duuude-Ron :

No.   No.   Ultrasound.   And, I mean, I mean, this girl actually loves it, and she was saying something about   maybe becoming a teacher,   you know, for it.   You know, and she, you know, I'm like, okay. Well, I said, you know, I asked her. I said,   do you have to have any certifications   to teach it? She's like, you know, I don't know about that.   And I was sitting there thinking about it some more, you know.   And, you know, the whole time, I'm freaking just, you know, looking at her because she's cute.   And I'm like, hold it. I got it.   I said start a podcast about it.  

And she looked at me like,   how the fuck did you come up with that answer at?   And then and then, of course, her mind kicked into gear and she started   thinking, you know, and everything. So I didn't get to tell her that that,   you know, I do a podcast   or anything. But, yo, yeah. You know, I told her, I said, yeah. Do a freaking podcast about it.  

[02:38:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Shoot you, man.  

[02:38:26] Duuude-Ron :

And everything. So, yeah, it was it it was actually cool. And and,   I mean, I mean, my heart's fine.   You know, I now now I won't get the final result until after the doctor reads it and blah blah   blah. But this girl's been doing it long enough. She's like, no. I don't think I'll see you   for   probably another year.  

[02:38:50] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Alright. Well, it's when you do, get her phone number.  

[02:38:54] Duuude-Ron :

I will. Next time.  

[02:38:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Speaking of phone numbers, have you heard anything from your realtor chick?  

[02:39:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. No. No. She's busy.   She's busy with   with whatever she's doing.   So  

[02:39:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. You gotta reach out and let her know. You gotta schmoozer, man.   Yeah. Turn on that charm. Turn on the smolder.  

[02:39:19] Duuude-Ron :

I haven't heard that term in a while. Turn on the smolder.   Damn. We   this late at night, and and we've got all these big words flying. What? Man. Well,  

[02:39:30] Bryan Goodwin:

I I get that from there's a, there's a TikTok video,   and this lady's got got her camera trained on the on the muzzle of a horse. And so you see the whole horse face,   and it's and it's the   line from,   from, Rapunzel.   Okay. When, when,   Flynn   is like, alright. Well, I didn't wanna have to do this, but here comes the smolder. And so and he and he does his little look. Well, on the in the video,   he he play they play that that audio of, okay. Well, you left me no choice. Here comes the smolder. And when he says that, then the horse just happens to stick his tongue out. And   it's just   Really? It was just awesome. Yeah. Yeah.  

So   I'll send a link link to it in the   in the,   in the email tonight, and, that way we can add it to the, to the show notes.  

[02:40:34] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Okay. Yeah.   Yeah. Send the link.   But   so, yeah, that so, yeah, that was that was my thing. I   and and   my, my, ultrasound girl, her name is Taylor, by the way.   And and I didn't even have to ask for her name. She voluntarily   told me.   I was I was like I was like happy, man. I was like, you know, almost had a tear. I was so happy.   But   now it was now it was cool, actually,   you know, getting to see,   you know, my heart   and high beats and then the wavelengths and all like that. And then she took she'd take pictures and then take measurements of certain areas   and everything, and it was it was actually pretty cool. I was asking questions and everything.  

I was just I was just like,   you've got me laying down. Don't don't get me up anytime soon. Because I told her, I said, I'll probably take a nap on your ass. She's like,   that's okay.   She's like she says, I'll wake you up. I says, what if I don't wanna wake up? She's like, well, I'll be back Tuesday morning. So   that might be a problem.  

[02:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Might. Yeah.  

[02:42:00] Duuude-Ron :

Just might be a problem. So  

[02:42:03] Rich Chelson:

Well, at least you get a good sleep, though. Right?  

[02:42:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. If I could sleep that long, that'd be fucking great.  

[02:42:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No shit.  

[02:42:13] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know.   I don't know. This week here, I've been   I mean, I've been sleeping, but, yeah, waking up? Oh, goddamn.   Mm-mm.   Yeah. My body has not liked getting up, but I have to get up because I'm in pain.   And it just hurts even worse for,   yeah, it's   it's been a rough week this week. And I don't know why. Maybe the weather because   it hasn't rained yet.  

[02:42:43] Rich Chelson:

But the barometric but the barometric pressure probably plays a toll on you.  

[02:42:48] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It is. It is. Yeah. All week long, it's been it's been   up and down. It it feels like it wants to rain,   but   there's no rain in the forecast.   By the clouds? Oh, yeah. It looks like it's fixing to cut loose. Can you mean   it? Nope. It says, uh-uh. Ain't doing it yet.   And I wish it would because then maybe I'll get some freaking relief, but   we'll see.   It's supposed to rain next week.   And I don't get my relief till next week. So  

[02:43:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And it was supposed to, they had a,   what, 75%   chance of rain for today.   You know, and it's been dry here for the last   month.   And so on Halloween, they're predicting a 75%   chance of rain.   Well, thank good thank goodness the cold front just for the kids.   But thank goodness the cold front came in,   but there was very   minimal clouds in my area, and we didn't have any rain today whatsoever. So it didn't hamper the,   you know, going out and trick or treating for the kids, which I was like,   yeah. I'm thankful for them.  

[02:44:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, I was I was slightly perturbed to the fact that I went off and tarpered to my load,   and there wasn't any freaking rain. Well, there was a little bit of rain, but it didn't last very long.  

[02:44:20] Duuude-Ron :

Not enough to mess your load up?  

[02:44:23] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I mean, it's it's dense fiberglass.   I mean, hell, they stick the stuff out and, set it outside whenever, whenever they're stacking it up. So it's just it's dense fiberboard,   or,   or dense   it's they call it dense glass. It's basically drywall with a shit ton of,   of fiberglass in it. And it's heavy and dense. And, I mean, you I've you can crank on the thing with with straps, and you're not you you might do some damage, but you're not gonna break the corners like you would on on a, on regular drywall.  

[02:44:58] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right. So I guess I guess that's the new drywall they're using?  

[02:45:08] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't know what they're exact I think this is more along the lines of, like, sheathing.   So k. Like, if they're they're do for,   special items for,   for, like, siding and stuff.   I don't exactly know what they use it for, but they they seem to be using them for something.  

[02:45:34] Duuude-Ron :

That's crazy.  

[02:45:37] Rich Chelson:

And they require you to tarp it?  

[02:45:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, it is sheetrock.   So so if it's gonna rain, we've I like to go on ahead and make sure it's tarped so it doesn't get wet, so it doesn't you know, I don't show up with a with with nothing but a a pile of, of Fireflies.  

[02:45:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:45:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That yeah. Yeah. They would frown on that. Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. That's,   yeah. Receivers tend to frown on stuff like that.   And then you'd wind up having to drive all the way back to take it back to   where you picked it up from.  

[02:46:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Yep. And then I'd probably end up having to buy the load.  

[02:46:19] Duuude-Ron :

That would suck.  

[02:46:20] Bryan Goodwin:

That would really suck.  

[02:46:22] Duuude-Ron :

That's not a cheap, though.  

[02:46:25] Rich Chelson:

Nope. It's a cheap one.   Yeah. And all of your travel costs.   Yep.   Yeah. That would really suck.  

[02:46:34] Duuude-Ron :

I mean I mean I mean I mean, everyone would still get paid because, you know, the, the shipper, the receiver, and the trucking company has insurance. But,   there has been some kind of But I know.   Yeah.   Brian. And and, I mean, it would be up to his boss   to decide to make him either pay the deductible, which is normally $1,000   or   buy the load.  

[02:47:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely.  

[02:47:04] Rich Chelson:

And see, thank goodness I'll I will never come across that type of situation.   Right.  

[02:47:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That that   that was always something that that I had to worry about because, you know, especially, like like, strawberries.   Right?   I'm telling you right now. Strawberries, that is fucking that is one of the hardest fruits to haul   fresh   just because they have to be gassed   with,   say, is it nitrogen, I think?  

[02:47:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, oh, okay. Well, I was gonna say, I mean, that's not hard. Just give me a couple plates of beans, and I can do that just for free on the way on down the road.  

[02:47:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well, what you see what you see, say back in the old days,   and I say old days, you know, it's like the early nineties. But,   before they started wrapping strawberries,   you would haul them just open   in a reefer trailer. Okay?  

[02:48:12] Bryan Goodwin:

But Okay.  

[02:48:14] Duuude-Ron :

You couldn't   show up on the other end because normally,   you'd take them to Chicago,   Detroit, New York, New Jersey, wherever.   You couldn't show   show up with hair on them.   You know, the the the fine hair. Yeah.   And,   the thing is you take,   2 little caps of alcohol, set it right at the back of the reefer,   and the the air   from the reefer   would would move that alcohol through there   and,   you know, take the madders off.   Well,   I hold them like that once, maybe twice,   and, almost had a load rejected on me. And at the time, that was about   $35,000. And shortly after that,   they started wrapping the pallets and gassing them with, I think, nitrogen.  

Yeah. And so because they  

[02:49:11] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh. It's removing the oxygen content. Yeah. They use nitrogen for that. Yep.  

[02:49:16] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. But and and so they would be wrapped,   and so you didn't have to do anything.   So so when strawberries got to the other end,   you know, they if if if if they were still, you know, a little green or yellow   on the way across,   they would ripen. They would finish ripening.   And then when you got to the other end, they would unload them and then they were good.   Mhmm. They would do the same thing with,   tomatoes except they wouldn't wrap the tomatoes.   They would pick the tomatoes green,   and they would ripen them on the way.  

[02:49:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See, they they would definitely have to, stop by my house and drop off a couple of crates, especially if they were still green.   That way, I could have a few meals out of them.   Right. Right. Dry green tomatoes. Oh, hell yeah.  

[02:50:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I remember I remember I picked up a load of, tomatoes,   out of the panhandle of Florida over here, and I took them to,   Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.   And,   they gave me, like, a freaking week to get there.   Week, little over a week.   And, the broker told me he's like he's like, every morning tell me what   the majors look like. And I told him, I said, I ain't no fucking farmer.   I'm a truck driver.   The fuck? He said, just tell me what color they are. Alright. Fine.   And sure as shit, every morning, I'd he'd call me and I'd tell him. He's like, alright. Go on.   And I'd keep going. And by the time I got up to,   Saskatoon to,   unload up there, they were bright shiny red ready for market.  

I had never seen that. I'd never in my life I had seen that, but I ripened a whole load of tomatoes   on the way.   Yep.   So, yeah, that Well, you know  

[02:51:20] Rich Chelson:

well, you know a lot of these,   cheese spread cans and,   you know,   oh, the Cool   Whip, the compressed,   Cool Whip cans.   Mhmm. You know what gases they're using for those?  

[02:51:39] Duuude-Ron :

No. What?  

[02:51:41] Rich Chelson:

In Cool Whip, they use helium  

[02:51:46] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[02:51:47] Rich Chelson:

As the compressed gas to push the food product out.  

[02:51:52] Duuude-Ron :

I'll be dorked.  

[02:51:54] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Because nitrogen   will actually   spoil,   whipped cream,   the cool whip in the can.   Mhmm. Nitrogen will actually spoil it. That's why they use helium   as the push gas.  

[02:52:14] Duuude-Ron :

I did not know that.  

[02:52:16] Rich Chelson:

And for   wineries,   within their system, if it's like,   say it's a barrel of wine and they're trying to push that to a tap?  

[02:52:28] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:52:30] Rich Chelson:

What kind did just take a wild guess of what kind of gas   they push wine   with.  

[02:52:37] Duuude-Ron :

Carbon?   No.   No?  

[02:52:42] Rich Chelson:

A gas, not a liquid.   Oh.   You know, like oxygen, nitrogen, argon,   helium, etcetera.   I don't know. When it comes to wind,   they use argon   as the push gas.  

[02:52:58] Duuude-Ron :

Really?   Yeah.   I did I did not know argon.   Okay. I I knew, argon was used for TIG welding.  

[02:53:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's used for it is used as a welding shield gas.   Yeah. But argon,   food grade,   argon   is what some of these,   pubs and so on like that,   that's how they push the wine from the barrel   to the tap is using argon.  

[02:53:29] Duuude-Ron :

I'll be damned. I did not know that.  

[02:53:32] Rich Chelson:

Yep. And it's   because,   again, nitrogen will spoil   whipped cream. That's you that's why they use helium.   There's something about those 2 gases   that will   spoil wine   where argon   does   not spoil the wine or the taste of the wine   as the pushing gas.  

[02:53:59] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   I learned I learned something else new today.   Yep.   I learned about my heart and learned about   some gases and and alcohol.   Exactly.  

[02:54:12] Rich Chelson:

And then you got nitrous   and then you got nitrogen and carbon dioxide. That's beer gas. That's what pushes,   taps for beers.   Yeah. Gives it the foam.   Yep. That's from the carbon dioxide and the nitrogen. Yep.  

[02:54:28] Duuude-Ron :

That's why I said carb. That's that's what I was thinking of because, yeah, the beer I knew. I ain't get wine. Yeah. Wine, I didn't know.  

[02:54:37] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Wine is argon. Yep.   Okay. And and for beer, it's the beer gas mixture, which is   25%   carbon dioxide   and 75%   nitrogen  

[02:54:53] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:54:54] Rich Chelson:

For the most part.  

[02:54:56] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   That's cool.   I had no idea, man.  

[02:55:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Kind of those   pieces of information   that, just because I'm in the industry have learned. Yep.   Which is, you know, one of those,   how many beads are on the   what   besides holding your dog tags on your neck,   what were the beads   meant for in the dog tag chain? What were they meant to be used for?  

[02:55:31] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really?   Fuck. And you would have to bring that question up. I used to know.   I used to know.  

[02:55:44] Rich Chelson:

The long dog tag chains   Yeah. Is for   days   Yeah. And the short the short dog tag chain is for weeks.  

[02:55:56] Duuude-Ron :

For weeks?  

[02:55:57] Rich Chelson:

Week. It was either weeks or months.   Yeah. Because And what was   go ahead. And what was it and what was its purpose for?  

[02:56:08] Duuude-Ron :

Well, if you got marooned or or captured or and stated something,   you could Yeah.   Tell time or at least at least know what day it was. Yep. Josh says days How many days. Yep. Days of the year months.  

[02:56:24] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   As being a POW.  

[02:56:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Now I knew I knew   as soon as you said it, it's like, fuck. And I used to know this. And I was sitting here I was sitting here looking at my wall, like, okay.   Mirror mirror, and I ain't even got a mirror, but wall to wall. Please   help me with your all, you know.   I don't know. Like I said, my mind's fucked up, but  

[02:56:49] Rich Chelson:

I'm just Okay. So now go now here's another one. You may or may not know it. We had to know it.   But did you when you were in the military, did you ever wear   jump boots?   Yeah.   Did you actually wear jump boots   in your army career?  

[02:57:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   At least at least at least the   the, company that makes jump boots   I mean,   H and H,   that was a brand I wore.   Uh-huh.   I wore jump boots.  

[02:57:28] Rich Chelson:

Okay. How many stitches   go across the toe   of a jump boot?  

[02:57:36] Duuude-Ron :

I've heard this answer, but I never counted them.   I've looked it up because I've I've I've heard this answer before.  

[02:57:44] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   There's a 101 stitches  

[02:57:47] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[02:57:48] Rich Chelson:

That holds a that holds a toe piece on   Mhmm. Going going over the top. There's a 101 stitches.   How many stitches going up the side   of the Cochrane jump boot?  

[02:58:02] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that's Cochrane's. Well, I well, h and h would be the I mean, about the same thing. I mean, about the same thing. Same thing. Yeah.   Well, it'd be 82, wouldn't it? 82.  

[02:58:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. How, how many, how many,   divots are on the heel   of the jump booth?  

[02:58:24] Duuude-Ron :

I cannot remember that.  

[02:58:26] Rich Chelson:

13.   How many nails hold the sole on to the boot itself?  

[02:58:36] Duuude-Ron :

Is that also 13?   I Nope. I used I used to know all this.  

[02:58:41] Rich Chelson:

It's 48.   So the yo, the jump boot has   a lot of military,   aspects.   Okay? A 101 stitches for the 101st airborne, 82 stitches going up for the 82nd airborne, 13 dips or divots in the heel, the 13 original colonies,   48 nails for the, 48 states when it was   when the boot was created. And there's a couple more that I don't remember on the stitching   that had to do with airborne units.  

[02:59:16] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right. And, yeah, and so that's that's the thing for a long time,   regular military   was not allowed to wear jump boots if if you did not have your wings,   You know? Really?   Yeah. Oh, no. No.   At first,   we   we we weren't allowed to get jump boots.   I think I was in at my first, duty station   well over a year   before   we were allowed   because they said they said jump boots were only for,   airborne.   And, it was sometime from the time I I got out of AIT   to,   like, my 1st year in Fort Riley   was when   the, military   relaxed their,   thing with jump boots. And, I mean, I mean, as soon as they lifted that, I went straight and bought me a set of jump boots.  



[03:00:16] Rich Chelson:

Because Oh, yeah.   And that's one thing even after   I've been retired now for   17 years.   Mhmm. I still have and I've given all my   uniforms away. As a matter of fact, I gave away   I met a homeless guy couple years ago,   and I still had a lot of my uniforms   in my garage just in duffle bags.   And, you know,   this homeless guy didn't have very much clothes. And I went and pulled him out and I met him over where I work at one day and said, you know what? You want some military uniforms? And I tell you what, the tears in his eyes, I said,   take what you want. If you want them all, take them all. And he took all   old uniforms, and I tell you what, he was   the happiest individual   because he had, you know, some good clean   clothes.  

Gave him all my military socks. Yeah. Everything was clean.   And he was just like   was   it felt like he was in heaven.   Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, gave gave him my old winter boots. However, the one pair of boots that I still have   after,   what I've had 2 pair of jump boots in my military career.   My second pair, even though it has the dust on them, I can still see the shine   through the dust   of my jump boots.   Oh, yeah. Them motherfuckers   them motherfuckers used to look like   mirrors.   Yeah. But those,   in the 82nd, the 101st,   the ranger battalion special forces,   when you're in your class a dress uniform,   you don't wear low quarters. You wear jump boots.  



[03:02:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. That's why   that's why   we we were not allowed to wear jump boots.   That was   that was reserved for   airborne special forces, stuff like that. And then, like I said, shortly after I was in, they freaking lifted it. And, Where you could wear it in in  

[03:02:37] Rich Chelson:

your   camouflage, but you couldn't wear it in your class a uniform.  

[03:02:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. No. We couldn't wear class a's.  

[03:02:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's where we got to wear them in our class a's.   Yeah. Versus the yeah. But mine,   after 17 years,   I can go up into my attic   and those boots are still up there.   Dusty and all, I can still fucking look down and see my reflection in those boots.  

[03:03:04] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, dude. I don't doubt it. Those there were the best boots to shine because they held the fucking time. Hell, yeah. That and jungle boots.   Jungle boots do okay.   Yeah. Yeah. I wore jungle boots too. Jungle boots for a shine did okay, but, jump boots? Oh, no. I could I could get a pair of jump boots to just just   glisten   dead and night. And   don't shine a light near my feet because I'm fucking lighting the sky up, dude.  

[03:03:36] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Those were the days. They don't fucking do that shit anymore.   No. Not none of the military forces   have boots now that you can shine.  

[03:03:48] Duuude-Ron :

No. They're all patent leather, ain't they? Or no. They're all desert tan.  

[03:03:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But they're the   the rough side of   the cowhide is on the outside, not on the inside.   Yeah. It's suede. Yeah. The yeah. It's the suede. So you can't yeah. The shining of boots is no longer   a military standards.  

[03:04:12] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. No. And at all.   And and dress uniforms are patent leather.  

[03:04:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So  

[03:04:20] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. So there's no shining period.  

[03:04:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No shining period.   Lost fucking art.  

[03:04:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yes, sir.   Yes, sir. It is. Definitely.   I can still shine a pair of boots. So  

[03:04:35] Rich Chelson:

So can I?   And make them look like glass.  

[03:04:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yes, sir.   Ain't no doubt my military mind, I can I can make a pair of boots shine? That's for damn sure. Yeah.  

[03:04:47] Rich Chelson:

After all this time. Yep.  

[03:04:50] Duuude-Ron :

That was a challenge for me, man. It's like   it's like how much they were shining. And and even when even when I had my jungle boots, my work boots,   and, I mean, I would I would man, I'd I'd fucking tear them up every day.   Every night, I was shining them bitches watching MASH.   I was living right there.  

[03:05:13] Rich Chelson:

There you go. And that's when MASH was on prime time.  

[03:05:17] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I sit there, shine boots, watch MASH, and and, get your beer.  

[03:05:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I certainly came   in. So alright. Well, man, it is gotten around the time to start calling it a night.   So wanna first off say thank you, for everybody's listening.   Been getting several messages from old Josh, and I appreciate him,   coming on, listening. And he was listening through a podcasting 2.0 app. This is a   a new generation of podcasting. This is not just this is not your dad's   podcast,   Apple Podcast type of app. This is the new and improved type of podcasting app. These are the apps that allow you to be able to   listen to, to a show when it comes out,   live and and on air. This is also the show that you can actually,   there these are the apps that you can also go through, and you can send comments to us. You can send it to us, live and on air also, and you can do so by shooting, shooting over a, a boost or a boostogram as they call it, and be able to do so with a little bit of satoshis   and lot of good good things come about this. You've got blog roll, the or the not the blog roll, but pod roll. So you can see what other types of, of   of podcasts are out there that you wanna listen to and be able to gather, need information or great entertainment or anything like that.  

There's just there's   so many, other things. And we do this so that we don't actually have to do advertising. Because if you're advertising,   that that is a form of censorship because I we can't just say whatever we want because we might offend our our advertisers. And if we offend our advertisers, they're gonna pull their money. And they pull their money, then guess what? We don't have a show.   So we do this and we do this thanks to y'all. This is all based upon a value for value model. That means if you find value on what you're what you hear, great. Awesome.   You can, you can   pay what you think we owe or what, we deserve.  

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Beautiful. Thank you for the $5. You think we're worth   $5,000?   Beautiful. Thank you for that $5,000.   We we're not here to, to judge how much you gave, and we're just here to be able to help you and just and do a value for value. What you've deemed, what you find the value to be, that's completely up to you. We have no say in it. So with that, I wanna say, thank you again for everybody. If you wanna have any comments, questions, anything like that, you can reach out to me.   My email address is circlecast, that's circlecast   atgmail.com.  

Or you can get a hold of Rich over at rchelson,   and that's   [email protected].   And we would love to be able to hear from you. Got any comments, questions,   insights,   whatever. Love to be able to have have you contribute to the show in that form and fashion also.   So,   dude, what do you have,   to say for the, for the closing shots tonight?  

[03:11:13] Rich Chelson:

Well, again, I appreciate   that, Josh sent us some comments and let us know how we're doing and also   gave his insights on a couple of,   comments,   what we were originally talking about. So thank you very much.   And for all of those that do listen continuously and download us, you know, thank you for allowing us to   occupy your time with   the things that we   contribute   with our such   great and noble mind thought that all of us have.   Yeah, right.   And just,   that enjoy listening to us   talk about what we talk about.  

[03:12:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Right?   And rattle.  

[03:12:05] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, that was awesome. That was.  

[03:12:08] Rich Chelson:

And what we and what we rattle upon.  

[03:12:12] Duuude-Ron :

It's That was awesome.  

[03:12:14] Bryan Goodwin:

So alright. Rich, what do you have to say for the night?  

[03:12:18] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know if I could follow that. I mean, dude knocked it out of park with that one. I'll I I enjoyed that.   And, no, I just wanna say,   again,   I I mean, thanks to everybody that's listening to us, and   the new people. I don't know, Brian, if you've seen,   this month,   308   downloads just this month.  

[03:12:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Nice.  

[03:12:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. According to Python.   Yeah. It's our best month yet. So it's it's like,   you know,   I mean, yeah, we've we've talked about the analytics and everything like that, but still, you know,   this is why I'm doing this because I see numbers.   You know?   You know? I don't care. It's just I know I know we have people listen to us and Josh coming on and and sending you messages and, you know, reading them on the air. That that that just   that's why that's why I love doing this show.   Because now,   since I think we have   the problems fixed, we can go live   most every week   unless I'm planning to go out of town, and I don't think I'm planning to go out of town for a while now.  



[03:13:31] Rich Chelson:

I'll explain. Decide to put or you decide to push the wrong button.  

[03:13:36] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right. Right.   But, no. Hopefully, I got it fixed. We can go live and and now and, hopefully,   hopefully, if you hear this   and you jump on on Thursday nights at 7 o'clock CST,   Okay? Adjust that for your time zone wherever you may be,   and I'm not gonna go through the time zones because we are global.   We have people listen to us from all over the world.   So, yeah, I can't do that math, especially this late at night.   But, you know, do the math, jump on, and, yeah, send us a boost to gram or send us an email,   [email protected]@gmail.com.  

And, yeah, we'll we'll freaking look at our emails on the air and and   read your emails on the air, you know, and answer them and everything. So, yeah, it just you know,   we just have fun doing this, and and   I hope y'all laugh, smile, groan,   whatever.   Tell your friends about us.   Let them let them hear us. Let them,   make their own decisions.   You know? Because some of the stuff we say, it pisses people off, and, you know, we don't care. But, you know, hey. We're all just here having a good time and being men.   We're just being ourselves. So, anyway, thank you   for listening, and, hope you had fun.  

And,   we'll catch you next week.  

[03:15:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely. Alright, guys. Well, again, wanna say thanks for everyone one more time for, for taking time listening, whether it's on the whether it's live or as a   on a on a delayed,   instance where you're listening to us while you're traveling down the road. Either way, thank you again for listening. Y'all have yourselves a good rest of the night, gentlemen. I appreciate y'all again coming on, and we will see y'all next Thursday.   Till then. Alright. Bye.  

[03:15:35] Duuude-Ron :

Later.  

[03:15:36] Rich Chelson:

Peace out.