Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets and a Dude, where three friends, Brian, Rich, and the Dude, gather to share their unique perspectives on life, humor, and the challenges of being better men. This week, the conversation kicks off with a discussion about the cold weather and the high costs of heating, leading to a humorous exchange about insulation and gas bills.
The trio delves into the technicalities of podcasting equipment, sharing anecdotes about aux cords, preamps, and the joys of receiving a new MacBook Pro. The conversation takes a turn towards family, with stories about Bryan's son and his entrepreneurial ventures in locksmithing and disc golf.
As the episode progresses, the discussion shifts to current events, including the recent Cybertruck explosion and the tragic incident in New Orleans. The hosts explore the implications of these events, touching on topics like homegrown terror and the role of the CIA.
The conversation takes a lighter turn as the hosts share personal anecdotes, from Rich's tax exemption on property to the joys of receiving homemade treats from neighbors. The episode is peppered with humorous exchanges, reflections on past experiences, and plans for future adventures, including wheeling trips and potential riverboat cruises.
Throughout the episode, the hosts emphasize the importance of male friendships and the value of intentional conversations. They encourage listeners to engage in similar dialogues with their friends, highlighting the benefits of sharing life experiences and supporting one another.
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Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thought together to show folks that living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude. I'm on my way down. What the hell?
[00:00:36] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. What the hell, dude? The hell? Are you at home?
[00:00:42] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. I'm out at in the truck.
[00:00:44] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. It just it just sounded like you was in a house.
[00:00:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's because I it's actually cold enough. I can turn the truck off and and not have air blowing on me all all the time. So
[00:00:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Okay. Either way. Yeah. You're right. It's too cold. I've got to heat a run.
[00:01:07] Bryan Goodwin:
First time you're walking around going, what's burning? Oh, yeah. It's
[00:01:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. The bad thing is is is, I do believe, that I'm gonna have to add some insulation into my roof sometime in 2025. Oh, really? When I turn my furnace on, I spend $7.17 a day, and that's with the thermostat set at 70.
[00:01:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright.
[00:01:39] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's fucking expensive.
[00:01:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Could be worse. We had when we ran ours, 1st year that we had our moved into our house before we just said say fuck the damn, heater. Our first, our first gas bill that we got well, actually, the first 4 months of our gas bill that we had until it finally got warm enough, and we were like we tried to pay it off and just couldn't, so we just said, screw it. We ended up getting $600, a month pay gas bills.
[00:02:12] Rich Chelson:
Oh god. Dang. Yeah. Oh, that's
[00:02:15] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm I'm not alone when I say my house has the r factor of a damn sieve.
[00:02:23] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And I thought I thought 225 was high. No. Yeah. No. No.
[00:02:29] Bryan Goodwin:
There I couldn't afford 600, dude. We couldn't either. That's why we don't have natural gas anymore. And I love cooking with natural gas, but Oh, yeah. It's great. But couldn't do it. It was just No. So just about anyhow, so, yeah, I, it it's kinda nice. I ended up getting we'll be able to do, we'll do be able to do, clips next week.
[00:03:00] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean?
[00:03:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, because what I'm because what's actually holding me back from being able to do it right now is I don't have a, I don't have an aux cord.
[00:03:11] Duuude-Ron :
I thought you had one.
[00:03:14] Rich Chelson:
I thought you had one.
[00:03:15] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. I hadn't had it aux auxiliary cable in in, in a in a while because I've the trucks that I've, that I've had so far has all had Bluetooth that works. Oh, okay. So it's been a good almost 2 years that I've been without an aux cord.
[00:03:37] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But, what,
[00:03:43] Duuude-Ron :
what's the aux cord
[00:03:46] Rich Chelson:
for?
[00:03:47] Bryan Goodwin:
So I connect to my laptop.
[00:03:51] Rich Chelson:
Oh, from your p 4?
[00:03:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[00:03:55] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. So
[00:03:58] Bryan Goodwin:
oh, alright. Let's see here. Let me get my ear pods in or earbuds in or whatever you wanna call them. There we go. Now I can hear everybody.
[00:04:07] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. God. I chose them. I chose poorly.
[00:04:11] Rich Chelson:
You chose poorly?
[00:04:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Forgot. You don't plug into the first one because for whatever reason, I think I've got a I've got a, preamp that's trying to go bad on it. So I'm getting a getting a buzz. But it could also be the fact that I'm setting it on just, on a mini fridge. So it could be that too. So
[00:04:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It could be the electric because that's, when you plug your headphones in?
[00:04:41] Bryan Goodwin:
No. That's when, and if I plug, anything into, into port 1, the microphone. So once it whenever I hit mute on on there, it all, it all just goes, it all glow, quiets down. So
[00:04:59] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Have you tried, that's on the XLR cables. Right?
[00:05:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:05:07] Rich Chelson:
1?
[00:05:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Have you tried number 2 or the others? Oh, yeah. No. I'm on, the most of the stuff I do is on on port 2. So on mine too, or Mike too, or Yeah. Or number 2 or or whatever you wanna call it.
[00:05:21] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Alright. Well So well, yeah, it sounds like your first port is wore out.
[00:05:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's since 2020?
[00:05:37] Rich Chelson:
I was gonna say, yeah. It's yeah. You've
[00:05:40] Bryan Goodwin:
you've had that before. Actually, no. It's been longer than that because it was, back in 2019 because that's whenever I started up the, the podcast.
[00:05:49] Rich Chelson:
So Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. So yeah. Yeah. That was 29. Dang, So
[00:05:58] Bryan Goodwin:
granted it was at the end of 2019, but this 2019 nonetheless. So but yeah. Yeah. God bless my son, and damn it, my son has gone off. He's got, way too much money.
[00:06:12] Rich Chelson:
What's he doing now? Is he is he still doing his,
[00:06:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, he's still doing locksmithing. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know he was doing that, but no. Oh, yeah. He's doing locksmithing, and, and he's trying he's working, a a disc golf business. It's over, he's got a, disc golf, bomb city discs.com.
[00:06:34] Rich Chelson:
Okay. And so he Yeah. That's that's what I was asking about. He's still doing So, yeah, he's still trying to do the the the, disc golf,
[00:06:42] Bryan Goodwin:
business and stuff. And he's gotten some people who started started finding him, started buying discs and stuff like that. So That's good. But, but, yeah, he's, he went all out this, this Christmas. And granted, I'm grateful, but at the same time, damn it, son. Hold on to your money. Right. So I'm grateful because, I mean, now he got me a MacBook Pro. So Holy
[00:07:11] Rich Chelson:
check. Yeah. That gone, dude. Look at you stepping up into
[00:07:17] Bryan Goodwin:
wow. So now I can actually, like I said, I can I can, we'll be able to do stuff because this has actually even got it's got a a an 8 inch, jack? What? So so, yeah, it's still Oh my goodness. That's cool. Yeah. It is. I I think so. It's got a looks like, got an HDMI port, a, and, and couple USB c's and yeah. She's a Nice. She's a rocking she's a rocking little girl, and I kinda enjoy the hell out of her.
[00:07:53] Rich Chelson:
I would enjoy every second of it, dude. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah.
[00:07:59] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah. And this week, hopefully, I can get over to, find a, find a decent, computer bag that I can put it in. So so I can and so having to carry it around in my duffle bag. So Yeah. Probably duffle bag is probably better, but at the same time, I like to be able to Yeah. If I need to just travel with it, I and not this duffle bag, I would like to be able to do that.
[00:08:23] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. What size is it? 156?
[00:08:30] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't I don't know what size is this. Let's see here. That's a respectable size. I know that. I can see pretty, I can see stuff with my glasses on.
[00:08:41] Duuude-Ron :
Let's see here. See if it tells me.
[00:08:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Do you know? There we go.
[00:08:52] Rich Chelson:
About.
[00:08:54] Bryan Goodwin:
The boot, C Mac Pro. It's got the Apple M4 Chip. Yeah. 14 inch.
[00:09:06] Rich Chelson:
14? Okay. Yeah. That's not bad. I mean Built in liquid retina. Sweet. Sweet. Yeah. That's like that's like my laptop. Well, the newest one I bought, yeah, has that OLED. It's a 15. Oh, okay. 15 inch. So and, I mean, honestly, I like it because, the screen, oh my god, when I watch a video, especially in, OLED video.
[00:09:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh.
[00:09:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. The colors are just, yeah, beyond beyond anything you can even think about. You know? Yeah. Watch a video of, 4 k OLED or, you know, retina. Oh, yeah. And, man, you'll you'll be like, wow. That's cool.
[00:09:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Absolutely. Now the other the other thing I really need to do on here is I'm I need to, once I get, need to go ahead and buy get a, add a a mobile hotspot to, to the plan. So
[00:10:15] Rich Chelson:
Use your phone? And
[00:10:17] Bryan Goodwin:
That way I can actually connect to the Internet through the phone or through the, on the computer and
[00:10:23] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Use your phone.
[00:10:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And be able to use my phone. So
[00:10:28] Rich Chelson:
No. You can use your phone as a hotspot, can't you? Yeah. But I have to pay for it.
[00:10:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, it's not included in your plan? No. No. No. No. Oh, dude. Dude. I had I had one, but I needed to try to I needed to try to find the cheaper, bring down the the, the cost, because we were paying damn near $400 for, for, for 4 phones. So
[00:10:56] Rich Chelson:
Holy crap.
[00:10:58] Bryan Goodwin:
So now we only pay 310.
[00:11:02] Rich Chelson:
And is that for 4 phones? Four phones still. Yeah. Damn.
[00:11:06] Bryan Goodwin:
So we shaved all all nearly, nearly a $100 off.
[00:11:12] Rich Chelson:
So Yeah. I don't I don't know about all that. I do one phone. So that's it. I do one phone. And I said I pay 134 for it.
[00:11:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I was trying to remind what a 100 and some gigs
[00:11:33] Rich Chelson:
of freaking data that I don't use, but I have it if I need it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You might find yourself out in the middle of nowhere. Maybe, maybe not. Nowadays, I don't know. That's that's actually a tall slip now. Year 4 last? Yeah. I definitely could've told you. I'd I'd found, yeah, myself out in the middle of nowhere, but not so much anymore.
[00:12:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Namaste anymore,
[00:12:04] Rich Chelson:
Not so much. But it's still possible. It's always possible. Dude, why are you being so quiet? What the fuck?
[00:12:11] Duuude-Ron :
Because y'all are talking. Okay. Damn. I know I'm an asshole and all, but I'm not I'm not rude. No. Scratch that. So before I forget all of this that I have realized for this wonderful second day of 2025, did you see the fucking clip of that Cybertruck?
[00:12:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh god, man. What is the hell is going on? Just just just fucking exploded. Well, yeah, that was the exact same day day and about the same time almost about the same time as when, when that, other dude, went In New Orleans. Going through, through Bourbon Street.
[00:13:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Now it Now it's with ISIS flag and shit. Yeah. Now it's 15 dead. It was 10. Now it's 15.
[00:13:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And 30, 3 or however many were injured? Yeah.
[00:13:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I can't remember what they said were injured. Yeah. It was, like, 30 or 40, but now the the death toll is up to 15. And that was a, I don't know if he was active duty or a veteran
[00:13:27] Bryan Goodwin:
from Fort Bragg. Both of them. Both of them were apparently, they were they both were at the same, same military base in Fort Bragg and Oh, there was 2? The yeah. The guy at, at that blew up in front of Trump Tower was was special forces.
[00:13:50] Duuude-Ron :
I hadn't heard about that one.
[00:13:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I don't know what his name is, but I it it it it's, it's a closer he the one in, at Trump Tower was, was closer to an American name than, than, than, New Orleans dude was.
[00:14:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. He was. The dude that hit Trump tires, he was a US army veteran, Matthew Lybelsberger.
[00:14:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Lybelsberger.
[00:14:21] Rich Chelson:
Of Colorado Springs, Colorado.
[00:14:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's that was the one in Vegas. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, I didn't know where that was in front of Trump Towers. They just showed the explosion of the truck, but damn. And here's here's another one of these freaking cyber trucks. Going down the road, it I found out that it was a fire suppression company. I don't remember the name of the company, but the company was on the top. And then, like, a 3 foot word on the side, like, fire trucks that had fire, and then real small letters up underneath of it, suppression. And they're painted fucking red, like a fucking fire truck.
I'm like, seriously? I just think it looks fucking stupid as hell, but, you know, that's just me because I don't like cyber trucks. I can't stand.
[00:15:26] Bryan Goodwin:
No. And they're they're as ugly as saying. I will give you that for sure.
[00:15:31] Duuude-Ron :
They are the who the fuck would I don't know why anybody would buy one of those. But you know what? If you have the money and you wanna fucking buy a Cybertruck, knock yourself out. I would never own a power power owned vehicle ever in my life.
[00:15:50] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I would I'm not about to have an electric vehicle at all myself.
[00:15:54] Duuude-Ron :
So So and then also on the same route, and there was a new route going from because I had a double today, and it's one that I haven't driven before. And I got to drive by a u r the funniest road. Yeah. It brings me back to my childhood, Electric Avenue.
[00:16:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wow. Walked down Yep.
[00:16:25] Duuude-Ron :
Electric Avenue. Beep beep. Yep. Drove right by Electric Avenue. And then I drove by another road that resembled rich to a t.
[00:16:42] Rich Chelson:
What?
[00:16:43] Duuude-Ron :
Squirrel run.
[00:16:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, that's funny.
[00:16:52] Duuude-Ron :
So those were my 4 things that I wanted to get off my chest before I forgot. Because I sure to hell would have forgotten them here in about an hour or so. But, yeah, that squirrel run, I just like, damn. I wonder if Rich was over there on that road. So yeah. So now I'm done talking. I'll be quiet now. Well Yeah. Now they're Go ahead. Go ahead. No. Go ahead. Yeah. They're just now I'm watching the TV and that the whole the only thing left of that, they just did a real quick blip it of that one Cybertruck in Las Vegas. The side panels, like, the wheel wells in the front and the back, on both sides, that's the only thing that's left. Oh, yeah. It's like a freaking shell.
[00:17:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But that goes to show that cyber trucks are not good for, improvised explosive devices because you see what direction the the blowout happened. It all Well, it mainly went up. Yeah. Yeah. The the the the glass in front of the Trump Tower there in in Las Vegas, none of the windows none of the glass there is disturbed. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm not gonna get into my just gonna show Biden just didn't do shit.
[00:18:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well
[00:18:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Well,
[00:18:42] Rich Chelson:
okay. Got lost.
[00:18:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, first off, if you're if you're a, if you've listened to, no agenda, they're always talking about the 6 week cycle.
[00:18:57] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:18:58] Bryan Goodwin:
So they had 2 guys that were a part of the 6 week cycle. The 6 week cycle is, is
[00:19:06] Duuude-Ron :
CIA.
[00:19:08] Bryan Goodwin:
That's how they get their it's technically how, suppose or well, according to what, what a lot of people think, that's how they the 6 week cycle is how the CIA gets a lot of their funding. And what they do is they draw in, they'll draw in some guy who is, who might, who can, who's mentally unstable enough that they can, get them all spin spun up so they he will go off and, and, try to do some type of act of terror so they can come in real quick and stop it. Because they can get it stopped to show that it's, that it is done. Thanks to, that it's, they're stopping some type of form of especially international terror.
They get, they get extra, they get extra money.
[00:20:06] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:20:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So and the fact that, that the we've had more attacks on Trump centered stuff this past year, more than anything, just goes to show that, what I what I was talking about on Biden not doing anything has, is, is showing due to the fact that they know Trump is, that the, mainstream media has put Trump as a target And wants their loonies to go after the, go after after Donald J Trump. And Biden hasn't done anything about it to, to stop it. And the fact that, one, also that or 2, also that, the CIA is supposed to be the one who, is able to catch these guys and to get them to and be able to, to and to keep them from from doing their, you know, to to turn turn off the the whole incentive of doing the 6 week cycle is is just, as well as frankly, it's kinda sad, really, that they're still they're going going on, and no one is still actually voicing the fact that, That's right. Yeah. We've got we've got homegrown terror, and it's because of the CIA and the FBI.
[00:21:59] Rich Chelson:
Well, hold it. Hold it. We've had homegrown terror for since time began, since America was founded.
[00:22:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Depends on what you also define as terror. New. I said, also define it depends on what you're defining as, as terror too. So
[00:22:18] Rich Chelson:
Anything against Americans and and, what we stand for. I mean, we it's it's it's been going, I mean I mean, it's been going since the 1800. Okay. Because one side is upset at the other side for whatever fucking reason, you know, take take the, unions. Take Hoffa. You know, he pissed off a lot of people. The unions backed him. Okay. And, you know, take the mobs, the Irish mob, the, Italian mob. You know, take prohibition. Okay. Let's let's move into the, 20th century. You know, take, prohibition. Oh, that raised a lot of terror, actually. It wasn't classified as terror, but it's on the same level.
[00:23:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But it wasn't classified as terror because it was just listed as crime.
[00:23:19] Rich Chelson:
Right. So but but the thing is, what what does what's the difference from today? Because they were blowing shit up in the 1900. They was lighting shit on fire in the 1900, the early 1900. So what has made it what about the race riots in the fifties sixties? The, segregation problems. It it it was all the same thing. You know, what about the riots, you know, with the, freaking Democrats a few years back? Or, well, I won't say Democrats and mainly Liberals, you know, from Democrats.
[00:23:59] Duuude-Ron :
Fucking Democrats. Thank you.
[00:24:01] Rich Chelson:
But Detroit, you know, Portland, and all like that. I mean, how is that any different from what it was in the 1900? I mean, so so that's the thing. See, this is the way I think. I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to force my opinion on anybody. I'm just saying this is along the same lines. We've been doing this for so long, but now what? What? Because we, reclassify and make the word terror that that it's it's it's supposed to mean more? I don't think so, but that's just me.
[00:24:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. See here. Looking to see if I could find that, The the deal about the 6 week, 6 weeks course. I Or not course, but, the 6 week cycle.
[00:25:06] Rich Chelson:
Right. But okay. Course cycle, whichever word you wanna use, it doesn't matter, but think about it. You know, they're just trying to basically find something that might or might not be there, And then jump on and say, oh, we did this and, you know, freaking beat their chest like a freaking orangutan saying, oh, look at me. You know, I'm mad. Oh. Oh. And then she.
[00:25:37] Duuude-Ron :
No shit. Yeah. So, like, you know, who fucking cares? You know, here's here's the thing. Go do your fucking job and you don't have to fucking advertise shit. Right. Oh, me did me did good job. Who gives a flying fuck? Right. Live your truth. The thing. Just do your fucking job.
[00:26:03] Rich Chelson:
Live your truth. Whatever truth you think that is, whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent to everybody else, live your fucking truth. And if you live your truth and let me live my truth, then, hey, we all we happy. We good. But you see, starting all this shit is what is what causes this, and it it it just keeps everybody on edge and fighting each other. This is why motherfuckers get sick and get old before their time. Because they all worry about, oh my god. What's the government gonna do? Who gives a fuck? They're gonna take your money at tax time. That's what they're gonna do.
[00:26:40] Duuude-Ron :
And there ain't a damn thing you gonna fucking be the individual is gonna be able to do, ever. Thank you. Thank you. I'm just saying. I can I can whine, bitch, and complain about taxes and all that stuff? It ain't gonna fucking change. Right. Right. No. Oh. Because the the point 1% will always own 90%.
[00:27:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's
[00:27:07] Duuude-Ron :
And be in control of 90%. Right. Not not of the people, but of the money.
[00:27:16] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. Speaking of taxes, though, I had a very good day. A very good day today. My What did you did? My January 2nd of 2025, 2nd day of 2025 was freaking awesome.
[00:27:35] Bryan Goodwin:
I got So what did you do?
[00:27:37] Rich Chelson:
Well, I went down to the assessor's office. And and I, went down there, took my paperwork, and Cool. Like this, showed him that, showed him that I just bought the house and everything like that. And, Yeah. I don't have to pay property taxes ever again.
[00:28:00] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll let you go.
[00:28:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was really happy about that. Yep. I was like, yes. That was good.
[00:28:09] Duuude-Ron :
So So whatever that amount is coming out or supposedly coming out of your escrow, yeah, it won't be obviously coming out. But, again, if you're making, you know, if you already have an allotment for your house payment, that's just gonna go towards your principal.
[00:28:27] Rich Chelson:
Yes. It is. Absolutely. Yes. It is. And I'm gonna do it every year until until this house is paid off because that'll that'll really, see. What is it? I read I read somewhere if you if you pay an extra $100 a month on your house payment in 1 year, I think you can knock off 7.
[00:28:55] Duuude-Ron :
Well, well, from what I've heard, if you pay a $100 and depends on what you finance as well. Roughly, if you pay a $100 a month more than what is asked, you'll go from basically 30 years to 25 years over the course of the loan.
[00:29:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, you see, the thing is though on that on that extra money I found out, you have to ask them to put it on the principal. You just you can pay the extra $100 on on, you know, a month. But if you don't ask them to put it on the principal, they won't. And it won't end up Nope. It'll be applied to the interest. Right. So so so so if so when you make your payment, if you wanna make more than your house payment, you need to go on your lender's website, sign in, and say, I want this money, this extra money to go to the principal. And Yeah. That's the thing right there. It'll, yeah, it'll drop it.
You know? So it's like, hell, yeah.
[00:30:00] Duuude-Ron :
So you have to go in every month to do that or is that just part of what you have set up?
[00:30:05] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. No. No. Well, this year well, here soon, they're gonna pay the 2024 taxes. Okay? Because there was a tax bill in 2024. Okay? So that's gonna be taken out of my escrow. And then going forward, I'm just gonna keep making my same payments. And then at the end of or at the start of 2026, I'll tell them to take, you know, that, what, 12 or $1300, whatever it is. And I've got a piece of paper to send them, and I'll tell them to take that 12, $1300 and just apply it to my principal.
[00:30:54] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:30:56] Rich Chelson:
And then, yeah, do it once a year, and that'll just that'll just drop time off.
[00:31:03] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. Oh, okay. Gotcha. So roughly, you'll go from 30 years to roughly 25 years before you have it paid off?
[00:31:16] Rich Chelson:
Well, I'll go farther than that because, you know, if I do that every year, I'm gonna be dropping years every year, extra years every year. So it is possible if you keep paying this at, like, a $100 a month times 12 is $1200 a year. If you pay $1200 a year extra against the principal, you could have a house paid off in like 15 or 16 years, almost half.
[00:31:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, Rod Joe.
[00:31:53] Rich Chelson:
So I was like really, really happy today.
[00:31:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I can imagine. So is it still brisk down there in Mississippi?
[00:32:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's a little brisk. It's it's it's not terrible. Monday, next Monday is yeah. It's supposed to be, yeah, fucking free. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So far, it was actually nice today. It was in the sixties. Yep. Same here. And and everything. So and it's, Sunday is supposed to be 73. And then Monday, the high is 50 and a low of 31. I say It did. That that low temperature is is really getting to me. It really,
[00:32:45] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't, I don't wanna say that. Well, it could be worse. It could be up and, it could be up in, up Missouri.
[00:32:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Exact, exactly what I said last, what was it? I
[00:32:56] Bryan Goodwin:
made the same statement. 30 degrees may last what? 3 days?
[00:33:02] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I know. I know. But
[00:33:04] Duuude-Ron :
And that 30 degrees, and if you look up in Missouri and it's negative five, so you're already plus 37 degrees higher than what you were last year or the year before
[00:33:23] Bryan Goodwin:
or the year before that.
[00:33:26] Rich Chelson:
Oh, year before that, it was it was it was fucking cold then
[00:33:30] Bryan Goodwin:
too. Gotta remember that. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say there was and then just think the time when you used to have to tromp around in that weather.
[00:33:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. Oh, God. Yeah. I meant, yeah.
[00:33:42] Duuude-Ron :
And not only that.
[00:33:44] Rich Chelson:
Hold on. Yeah. I mean, I You
[00:33:46] Duuude-Ron :
don't have to tromp around in 12 inches of wide air.
[00:33:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, no, you're right. You're right.
[00:33:56] Duuude-Ron :
Hang on. Now it's fun. It's fun to go fucking put in a Jeep and 4 wheel drive and, you know, that kind of shit. That's fine.
[00:34:10] Rich Chelson:
What the hell? Why is being stupid. Let's see. It's 25 feels like 8 up at where I used to live in Mercer, Missouri right now. There you go.
[00:34:24] Bryan Goodwin:
That feel like is what is weekly.
[00:34:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So 8 and it's what right now in Mississippi?
[00:34:32] Rich Chelson:
It's 46 right now in Mississippi.
[00:34:35] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So there you go. There's a difference of 38 degrees plus.
[00:34:43] Rich Chelson:
I know. I know. Yeah. See. No. See. This is all no. No. I can't. No. I'm not gonna do these temperature.
[00:34:51] Duuude-Ron :
Just no. Okay. Then just stay your ass in the fucking house, in the heater, and just fucking play on your goddamn game. I pray Don't even go outside. You don't even have to worry about it. You you'll build yourself a little smoke, little smoke hole in a window to where you can sit in the house, blow smoke out the window. You don't even have to go outside.
[00:35:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I no. Right now, it's it's yeah. It's chilly, but it's not it's not that bad. You know? But yeah. Yeah. There's I'm I am so thankful I am not up north. So thankful. In fact in fact, my nephew, Dusty, sent me a picture of of freaking Des Moines. They had gotten a a a couple inches overnight.
[00:35:55] Duuude-Ron :
And I told him Well, you can you can keep that couple of fucking inches right up there in Des Moines. That's what I told him to. You get shit up there. No. Thank you. Oh, and I got that. About people in Mississippi, but the people in Texas, their fucking heads explode. Just you talk about just can't fucking deal with anything if we have flurries. Their fucking heads just you know, they go fucking nuts down here. They get fucking stupid out on the fucking roads, just on flurry. They ain't even fucking, you know, settled on the damn roads. It's just in the air.
These motherfuckers just cannot that that just they're shit. Yeah. Apart. Yeah. God dang.
[00:36:56] Rich Chelson:
No. I've heard I've heard down here the, a couple times that they've had a few snowflakes that yeah. They, yeah, they shut down and every no one moves. Every Yeah. That's place Yeah. Shuts down and no one fucking moves till it's gone. Yep. So yeah. So it's like, I don't know. I just it it's like, I just don't like the wintertime.
[00:37:27] Duuude-Ron :
Nope. Well, unless you're down in Australia. Oh, yeah. It's beautiful. Or New or New Zealand.
[00:37:36] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:37:38] Duuude-Ron :
They're fucking in the eighties and nineties. Right. Maybe the 100.
[00:37:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's summertime down there.
[00:37:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:37:48] Rich Chelson:
So
[00:37:51] Duuude-Ron :
You know, buy yourself a little shack down in New Zealand. Get yourself, you know, an old beater Jeep and, you know, fly down there for 6 months out of the year.
[00:38:06] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's a possibility.
[00:38:10] Duuude-Ron :
But I don't think they have a VA department in New Zealand.
[00:38:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Not a USVA, at least.
[00:38:20] Duuude-Ron :
Well Or you can always go to Guam.
[00:38:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, I could. Yeah. I got
[00:38:30] Duuude-Ron :
a naval base there.
[00:38:32] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. The Philippines still has the VA there.
[00:38:35] Duuude-Ron :
Really?
[00:38:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot there's a lot of a lot of squid squid leaves that, that go and retire down in, down in the Philippines. Oh, okay.
[00:38:51] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. There's yeah. There's there's a lot of military, ex military down down in Philippines.
[00:39:00] Duuude-Ron :
As long as I could take my as long as I could take my Jeep.
[00:39:04] Bryan Goodwin:
You can. Just a little bit a little bit of shipping fees, but, yeah, you could do it. A little bit of shipping fees. Oh, I'm a lot of time.
[00:39:16] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. But the only problem is I don't know if they would allow my Jeep not having fenders.
[00:39:24] Bryan Goodwin:
I bet you they wouldn't mind too terribly bad.
[00:39:27] Rich Chelson:
Dude, have you seen some of the vehicles down there?
[00:39:30] Duuude-Ron :
No. Probably don't have fenders.
[00:39:34] Rich Chelson:
They have they have many different, yeah, vehicles in all different, regards of, repair. So Gotcha.
[00:39:49] Duuude-Ron :
Or you could always be, like, over in Korea, the one eyed buffalo.
[00:39:55] Rich Chelson:
The one eyed buffalo?
[00:39:57] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't wanna know. The one eyed buffalo sounds dirty.
[00:40:00] Duuude-Ron :
Rich, you never saw a one eyed buffalo?
[00:40:05] Rich Chelson:
I don't.
[00:40:07] Duuude-Ron :
It was the tractors that the farmers had that had the single headlight. Oh, yeah. Okay.
[00:40:13] Rich Chelson:
Damn.
[00:40:14] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. That was a those were referred to as a one eyed buffalo.
[00:40:19] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:40:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I was gonna say, damn. If you never saw one of those while you're over in Korea, wow. You didn't go out too very much.
[00:40:32] Rich Chelson:
Nah. Shit. We was out in the field all the time.
[00:40:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, I know. Same here.
[00:40:42] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They I mean, they love the field out there.
[00:40:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And I remember one field problem. Those little,
[00:40:51] Bryan Goodwin:
those little, those damn, essentially, little little garden tractors that's, it's just a 2 wheel garden tractor, and it's connected to a damn, to a trailer.
[00:41:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:41:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I'm sitting here looking at them. I'm like, what?
[00:41:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it and it has a swivel in the center to steer. Swivel in the center. Yeah. Yep. Uh-huh. Yep. Those we refer to. Is what they're called. Yeah. Those were They were referred to as the one eyed buffalo. Yep. One eyed buffalo. Yep. Those are
[00:41:37] Bryan Goodwin:
run tiller and take the tines off and and and and away you go.
[00:41:42] Rich Chelson:
Pretty much. Yep. Yep. Pretty
[00:41:45] Duuude-Ron :
much.
[00:41:47] Rich Chelson:
And they ride in things all over the place.
[00:41:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. You'd see you'd see families. I mean, a whole bunch of people racked up on one of those.
[00:42:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. I bet it. Family family, security? What's that?
[00:42:09] Rich Chelson:
Shoot. Come on now. I mean, you know, you know, I've gotten to think about it. And and, you know, I know there's other countries like US that are close maybe not as strict, but close
[00:42:25] Bryan Goodwin:
to Oh, yeah. It's called Europe.
[00:42:27] Rich Chelson:
But but but, most of the other countries in the world, everything is is is is just given the natural selection. They don't worry about all the safety shit. You know, it's like yeah. You know, I mean, say you know, seriously, it's like the fucking over here, you know, the government thinks they know what everybody needs and, oh, you have to be safe. You have to do this, but go over to Yep. Oh, hell no. If you fall off, cut your ass out, bitch.
[00:43:04] Duuude-Ron :
Talk to the world, baby.
[00:43:05] Rich Chelson:
Run and catch up. You know? You know? It it's like it's like, what the hell? Yep. It's like it's like, just let us live like like they used to when they, you know, when when in the early days of cars, they said seatbelts, fuck a seatbel.
[00:43:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly.
[00:43:25] Duuude-Ron :
Same same way with brakes. Right. Like, there's GTOs and the Mustangs and the you know, all that shit. It's like it was all about speed. Fuck fuck stopping. Fuck the brakes. We don't need brakes.
[00:43:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. A lot of them
[00:43:42] Duuude-Ron :
just have rear brakes. 4 40. Yeah.
[00:43:45] Rich Chelson:
You know? Oh, yeah. No. And, you know, it just I don't know. I was, it was funny. On, January 1st, on New Year's Day, I jumped on my ham radio and, talked to an old boy from, New Mexico. And me and him had oh my god. We talked for, like, 20, 30 minutes. And come to find out this guy was was born in 1943 Nice. In Detroit, Michigan and was raised up in Detroit. I mean, he was in Detroit when it was a great time to be in Detroit. Yep. You know, when when when Ford, GM, and Chrysler was all in fucking Detroit competing to make the best car, to make the fastest car, the the the hot rod, to make the cars people wanted.
And, oh, man, I was just like I was I was like a little fanboy. I'm like, dude, I'm jealous, man. You know, because, yeah, if you look at Detroit today, it's it's yeah. It's a hole.
[00:44:56] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there's there is. Yeah. All those Victorian homes that were of the wealthy in Detroit, they're all freaking the only thing left standing is the fucking shell.
[00:45:12] Rich Chelson:
A lot of them. Yeah. Shoot. Shoot. For a while there, you could only you could buy houses for a dollar.
[00:45:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:45:21] Rich Chelson:
Literally, buy buy a house in Detroit for a dollar. Oh, yeah. But, yes, see and that's the thing. You know, we're sitting here talking about it, and he was he was explaining. I say, I think you wound up working for GM for 20 or 30 years too. And I I it was just it was just it was just cool to talk to him, you know, everything. He he lives in, New Mexico now, Rio Rancho, New Mexico, which which is a beautiful country in itself out there. It's gorgeous.
[00:45:52] Duuude-Ron :
You know? And why did and why did he come down south? He was tired of the fucking snow.
[00:45:59] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:46:01] Duuude-Ron :
Just like just like all the rest of us old fuckers are tired of the gun. It ain't no way in hell I would ever knew. No. Mm-mm. Nope. Right? Don't think so.
[00:46:13] Rich Chelson:
Oh, and and I've got a weird phone call today. Literally. It was about, oh, 4 o'clock, 3:30, 4 o'clock. My phone rings. Pull my phone out. He was my sister.
[00:46:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay.
[00:46:30] Rich Chelson:
And I was like, what's up, Dee? You know, thinking, okay. Something's wrong. What's up? Because you never called me. You know? Oh, so And, she's like, hey. We're coming down on 17th. Are you good with that? Well, yeah. She's like, okay. She's like, we're bringing the dogs. I said, so?
[00:46:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, good. Get to see the hounds.
[00:46:58] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I was like, alright. Because, you know, Martin Luther King birthday is that Monday, and, you know, I guess, Dee and Matt both have the day off. So so they just figured they'd they'll make it a a, you know, a 4 day week and drive down and, you know, hang out with me and see the house and stuff like this.
[00:47:28] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, there you go.
[00:47:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was I was surprised and, you know, Dee is like, well, I told you I'd come. I said, well, yeah. You did, but it still surprised me. I ain't I ain't gonna lie. But so, yeah, that was that was actually pretty cool. So I so I guess I have to clean my house.
[00:47:57] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-oh. Nah. His family. Fuck them. If they if they don't like it, you know what? They pack your shit back up and go home.
[00:48:10] Rich Chelson:
Right. House is that way. No. My no. My house ain't ain't bad. It just it's just normal stuff. Normal everyday stuff. I mean, I don't I don't have much house cleaning to do.
[00:48:26] Duuude-Ron :
But so, yeah, it's it's
[00:48:30] Rich Chelson:
the first couple days of 2025 have been different.
[00:48:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Sounds like it.
[00:48:39] Rich Chelson:
And and did I say this last night? I can't remember if I said this last night. But, you know, here in, what, 21 days, I've been in Mississippi a year.
[00:48:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You were Yeah. You yeah. Yeah. You mentioned that. Yep. Okay.
[00:48:59] Rich Chelson:
Now I was gonna say I I damn sure I damn sure couldn't remember if I said something about like that. It just I don't know. It just it just blew my mind. It's like, I've been here down that long. Really?
[00:49:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:49:14] Rich Chelson:
That's like crazy. So but yeah. Oh. Oh, hang on. I'd I I I did I did kinda read an article. Oh, something else that, something else I did find out about. Right? K. Remember how, a couple weeks ago? I don't know if it was on a Wednesday or Thursday night we was talking about this. You know, talking about, drones and, say a DJI and all like that?
[00:49:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:49:54] Rich Chelson:
Okay. The federal government has given now before the federal government was told DJI they were supposed to prove by the end of 2024 that, they were above board and all like this. Right?
[00:50:19] Duuude-Ron :
Above bars.
[00:50:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Not not, keeping secrets and giving it to the Chinese government, which Okay. Which, you know, TikTok and Facebook and everybody else does. Right? Well, I read, read an article shortly after we talked about that, and I've forgotten about it. But now instead of the end of 2024, they pushed it out another year to the end of 2025.
[00:50:55] Duuude-Ron :
Of course.
[00:50:56] Rich Chelson:
Because and, again, this is my opinion. The federal government cannot find any legal way to shut DJI down.
[00:51:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Not legally. No.
[00:51:13] Rich Chelson:
Is no. It's there. Yeah. Because this is why this is why they keep pushing it out. Okay? Because this has been going on for, you know, a couple years. This isn't the first time anyone, you know you know, it's not saying, you know, it's the first time this happened. This has been going on since, what, 22 or 23?
[00:51:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Something like that. Yeah.
[00:51:36] Rich Chelson:
And they just keep pushing it out. And I I freaking read that article, and I'm like, excuse me? I'm like, y'all are dumbasses. You just proved that you have nothing no basis to go on. No basis. You're just trying to drag this out and waste our tax money.
[00:51:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly. They wanna make it easier for American, drone manufacturers to to to to sell their stuff instead of actually, instead of having the, the, the drone, the drone manufacturers actually do something, make better, make better products.
[00:52:22] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. But see, that's the thing. Most most of the, American made drone manufacturers may have have their contracts with the federal government or police departments or city and state county governments. They don't give a shit about the consumer people. They're just bitching because DJI is doing so good.
[00:52:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. That's it exactly.
[00:52:48] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, I I read that. I just like I just like, yeah, okay. I've got I've got nothing. Nothing. I I I'm like I'm like, y'all are just full of shit when I read that because if you really had something, you would have already put something into place. So and and something else I read, Brian, you would you'll probably, understand this. Dude, dude, you might too. On December 16th last year, 2024, the IRS are lovely. IRS, internal internal revenue service, introduced new regulations that extend the definition of financial brokers to platforms operating in decentralized finance.
So basically, they're saying, what they're trying to do from the way I understand it is collect information, on people who buy and sell cryptocurrencies so they can tax it.
[00:54:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. They wanna well, they can already tax cryptocurrency, but
[00:54:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. They can already tax that for, say I make I put a $1,000,000 and, you know, I do whatever for cryptocurrency, and I make a $100,000. And as soon as I cash that out, 37%. So if I make a $100,000, I'm paying $37,000 in taxes once it comes to once I take it out of the cryptocurrency and put it in my bank account. 37%.
[00:55:02] Rich Chelson:
I didn't think they could do it with cryptocurrency.
[00:55:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. If you may Depending on who you're well, it depends on who you're going through. If you do if you're doing the ones that are legal in the US, they're reporting the, the gains to, to the IRS. Coinbase is reporting your your activity to the IRS.
[00:55:24] Rich Chelson:
I believe that. Yes. What about Yeah. Kraken?
[00:55:29] Bryan Goodwin:
What how about who? Kraken. Yeah. Did you make a profit when you pull it out? Is 2. The all I mean, the only ones that really aren't are the private, wallets, Just the just your wallets like, Nunchuck. Because that's all they are, are their wallets. So you get some you get some money and you throw it over into Nunchuck, and then you take that money from Nunchuck and you, say, you, get a, VPN, and you put it over into, fuck. I don't know. Into another, send you get a VPN and point it over to Columbia. And you send that, that Bitcoin over there, and then you're able to redirect it over to over to you as as, as American money, you can, in turn, actually avoid. But, again, you're gonna the bank's gonna, report the findings and so does the IRS can still go off and go, hey.
Where'd you get this extra $30,000 from?
[00:56:47] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But Well, yeah. As long as you keep it
[00:56:53] Duuude-Ron :
your profits in your wallet, it's not you haven't made any money. Just like an IRA. Just like an IRA. You haven't made any money
[00:57:05] Rich Chelson:
until you draw it out. Yeah. Until you pull it out. No. No. I know that. But but it says it says these are, the IRS is, trying to force all of the front end brokers. Front end trading service providers is what they say, like, I guess Right. Kraken, Coinbase, Robinhood, you know, all the all the ones to where, oh, use your debit card to buy crypto, which is cool and it's great. It it it actually has introduced crypto to everyday person. But but now, IRS is wanting all this information. So so if they make any money, they can, you know, oh, we have to tax that. And that's the thing. Oh, yeah. That's the
[00:57:57] Bryan Goodwin:
reason why, like, Cash App and and Venmo, they actually have to report, to the IRS if you receive more than $300 in a year.
[00:58:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. I had, yeah, I had noticed about that. Yeah. I had yeah. I was and say that's the thing, you know. It it's like it's like leave us alone. I I mean I mean, we're taxed on our fucking money to the Sunday. Anyway yeah. I mean, seriously. I mean, you're taxed on what you make. You're taxed on the stuff you buy. You're taxed again at the end of the year, you know. It's like
[00:58:42] Bryan Goodwin:
And you're taxed when you die.
[00:58:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[00:58:45] Duuude-Ron :
You know? And and everything in fucking between.
[00:58:49] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:58:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Oh, yeah. There's like like the average person when they get paid are paying 8, paying taxes 8 times on that same fucking bit of money.
[00:59:02] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I believe it.
[00:59:07] Duuude-Ron :
I do not know that. You buy you buy gas? Guess what?
[00:59:11] Rich Chelson:
There's a tax in there. Yep. Oh, there's a couple taxes. Federal Oh, yeah. County? Yep. Oh, yeah. That's yeah. You know? And it it's just like yeah. It's crazy.
[00:59:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Agents. And they still will never fucking be able to balance the goddamn budget.
[00:59:36] Rich Chelson:
Well, no, because they give everyone else money and they don't write it down.
[00:59:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They give everybody else money and then go, oh, by the way, yeah, all that money we gave you, that's, that's a forgiven loan.
[00:59:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And we have veteran and we have veterans fucking homeless living out on the goddamn streets.
[01:00:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[01:00:04] Duuude-Ron :
Now, I mean, we have homeless period, but for somebody to have signed a contract up into the point of death, and nobody wants to take care of them.
[01:00:21] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:00:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, shit. They you go in as a normal person. You get your eggs scrambled. When you come out, it's like, oh, shit. That's on you. Figure it out your fucking self.
[01:00:38] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's that's thanks to our government.
[01:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yep.
[01:00:42] Rich Chelson:
You know, they say they say they wanna help, but they don't. Oh, we have a lot of red tape to go through. Now you can cut through the red tape. It's not hard.
[01:00:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:00:56] Rich Chelson:
You gotta tell the other motherfuckers to shut up.
[01:01:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Exactly. But that'll never fucking happen because nobody will get together as a collective and fix it. Right. Everybody is always that dollar goes around that fucking circle faster than the fucking neutron in that one fucking laboratory. I can't remember where the fuck it's at. It's like 13 miles diameter. Yeah. It's a little bit of atoms. CERN. Yeah. That fucking dollar superglider. Yeah. That motherfucking dollar moves faster than those goddamn protons when they're passing a buck.
[01:01:40] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:01:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:01:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. I just yeah. I just yeah. I just I just noticed that, and I, I I looked at it on my phone, and so I I, I shared it to my email. It's like it's like, this is bullshit, man. It's like, the shit's never gonna stop. I know it, but, you know, it's like it's like, damn, let us have something of our own. You know?
[01:02:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You got the remaining 37¢ out of that dollar. That's your own.
[01:02:21] Rich Chelson:
No. No. I want I want more than 37¢,
[01:02:27] Duuude-Ron :
dude. It'd be nice if we had, like, 62¢.
[01:02:31] Rich Chelson:
Okay. I can work with 62.
[01:02:33] Duuude-Ron :
So could I. But you're only fucking getting 37.
[01:02:37] Rich Chelson:
No. I can't do it, man.
[01:02:40] Duuude-Ron :
Then go live in your fucking jeep. Make it 37¢.
[01:02:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Ain't no way I could live in my Jeep on 37¢
[01:02:52] Rich Chelson:
now.
[01:02:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Aw, come on. You could try.
[01:02:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, see, if you if you sold the house and lived in the jeep, you know, got your list like, my trailer. Yeah. You know, I didn't even sell you my trailer. You have the tent on top. You know, there's air conditioning. There's a generator. Right. You know, you would think you went from 37 to 62¢. Right. Right. Now now your standard of living, well, that's going down to 23¢ probably.
[01:03:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:03:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Well, actually, I mean, depending on where you go, I still a lot of people go to, go to Thailand because of the cost of living. You can you can live as a damn king for for next to
[01:03:40] Rich Chelson:
nothing. Right?
[01:03:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Just my retirement. If I didn't have any responsibilities for anybody else in my life other than me, yeah, I could go to Thailand. And on just my retirement, my VA, yeah, I could live like a fucking millionaire.
[01:04:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Yep. Blame me. Blame me. Before I bought this house in Mississippi, I thought about it. I fucking thought about it because I was I, you know, I, you know, got my VA, my SSDI. I was like, well, fuck. I got enough. And I was I was looking into the cost of living, like, in the Philippines or Thailand or something. I'm like, holy shit.
[01:04:27] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm like, good god. I can No wonder they moved there.
[01:04:31] Rich Chelson:
Right? Because, yeah, shit I mean, shit's cheap, and, you know, that's the thing. I wouldn't be living in squalor. I'd be living in a nice freaking house eating good. You know? Yep. Yeah. And still have Internet, still have everything that I have here.
[01:04:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:04:54] Rich Chelson:
Now it might not be, you know, they have, power outages more more often than not, but
[01:05:07] Duuude-Ron :
fucking That's why you have a generator. That's why you get a generator.
[01:05:11] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. I no. I very seriously thought about it before I moved down here. I was looking into it.
[01:05:27] Duuude-Ron :
I can imagine.
[01:05:29] Rich Chelson:
Just because I mean, I because, you know what I mean? I'm cheap. And I'm like, oh, I could live good there. Yep. I would be close to the water. It'd be warm year round. Monsoon season would suck. Yeah. You know? Yeah. They don't have, cyclones. They have cyclones. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They have cyclones, which is just like a hurricane, just another word for it, I guess. Yeah. It's just, cyclones happen in the Pacific, while hurricanes happen in, in the Atlantic.
[01:06:05] Bryan Goodwin:
That's the only difference.
[01:06:07] Rich Chelson:
Okay. So it's the same thing. You're still gonna get wet, and it's still gonna be windy.
[01:06:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[01:06:14] Rich Chelson:
Okay. See, I'm good with that, especially now even though even though I have not had a hurricane come right over my house, and I pray that never happens. But I got a feeling living here that it's gonna happen at least once. But, I mean, I was on the outer edge of 1. So I got to feel a little bit of what it was like, but I didn't get the full experience, I should say.
[01:06:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, like you said, hopefully, you'll never have to deal with it. I hope not. I hope not because that would
[01:06:52] Rich Chelson:
that would bite the big weenie. That would speaking of weenie, I bought hot dogs the other day. Man, I was I hadn't had hot dogs in in, like, a couple months. I had made sausage.
[01:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Use, like, Frankenfurter style weenies. I usually just use sausage. What? That's what I'm just kind of a fan of sausage.
[01:07:20] Rich Chelson:
Well oh, no. I love sausage. I I bought I bought, like, 4 or 5 packs of andouille sausage because, yeah, I'm I'm I'm a be making jambalaya and gumbo fucking here quite a bit, you know, but and I normally buy it, but, my god, I just wanted a hot dog. I had had a hot dog for a long while, and I had made some chili, what, earlier last year, and I've got that in the freezer. So I'm going me some chili dogs one of these days.
[01:07:52] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there you go.
[01:07:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah, dude. Homemade chili with hot dogs on bread. Oh, my god. I'll be eating good in the neighborhood. That's alright.
[01:08:06] Duuude-Ron :
You you still nibbling on the turkey too?
[01:08:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, man. Shit. That was gone, dude. That was gone for the 3rd day.
[01:08:14] Rich Chelson:
I freaking tore that shit up. No. It took me about a week to eat that. I tore that shit up. I didn't I didn't cook anything for see see, I didn't cook nothing for for Christmas. I just kinda just munched. Yeah. That's about it. I didn't have no turkey, no ham or not. Oh, my neighbor across the street from me brought me some ham and macaroni and cheese. So I didn't know they was gonna do that. But yeah. He yeah. He And a big old piece of, freaking pineapple upside down cake. Huge piece. Oh my god. I had that in a long time. Right? Oh, it was good. Long time. I mean, it was it was like, wow. It was really good. And then then my neighbor, Sarah, crossed away, brought me some red velvet cupcakes couple days before Christmas.
And then, and she brought me a little box. She had made cupcakes and put 6 of them in a little box, so I ate 2 the next day with my coffee. Ate 2, I think it was on Monday. I can't remember what day Christmas was on. But
[01:09:42] Duuude-Ron :
Christmas is actually on Wednesday.
[01:09:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That's right. So, yeah, it was on Sunday or no. See. Either way, there, I didn't eat none on on Christmas Eve because I saved the last 2 and I opened them on Christmas day and ate those with my coffee. And then a day or 2 after Christmas, she freaking brings me 2 big old pieces of Dutch apple pie she had made. Homemade? Oh, yes. This was all white stuff. None of this was store bought. I was like, oh my gosh. I'm like I'm like
[01:10:23] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, you need to move in with them then. Right?
[01:10:26] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:10:27] Duuude-Ron :
Sell your house and move in with them.
[01:10:29] Rich Chelson:
Oh, man. I was I'm trying to lose weight, dude. And, you know, I'm trying. I'm I'm I've actually been doing, pretty good. My belly Yeah. Well, you know what? Like, way small.
[01:10:44] Duuude-Ron :
Quitters never win and winners never quit. So
[01:10:50] Rich Chelson:
But but I'm not. Deal with it. How about that? I'm not I'm not as big as I was even in July. I'm smaller.
[01:11:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah?
[01:11:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:11:03] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[01:11:04] Rich Chelson:
I'm telling you, man. You know, before, I couldn't see my pecker at all. Had hadn't seen it for years. And now I just gotta suck in a little bit and, hey. What's up? You know, serious, man. I'm like, I'm freaking happy, you know, doing the happy dance. You know, I I, you know, I don't need a little mirror, you know, to make sure everything's still attached down there. So so I gotta say it's it was it was actually pretty good to just, you know, relax over the holidays and and yeah. I mean, oh my god. The, baked goods I got. And I don't even know how I rated that, but I I'm not complaining by no means.
I can't wait till lunch. Gonna say yeah. How the hell did you rate that? Yeah. And Dude, that's a good damn question. I do not know. Do not know. And, yeah, I had even gotten cookies before all that.
[01:12:17] Duuude-Ron :
Things you ponder about of the universe. How the hell did I get so damn lucky to get, you know, this kind of shit? This kind of these kind of treats.
[01:12:34] Rich Chelson:
You know, I was just enjoying the treats. I really didn't put much thought into it because I was like, keep them coming, please.
[01:12:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I believe you.
[01:12:45] Rich Chelson:
But see, the thing is, okay, what do you do for for someone who is a vegan and is gluten free? What do you cook for them
[01:13:00] Bryan Goodwin:
to, you know, say thank you or whatnot. I mean, I told them thank you. You know? I I told her and her husband thank you multiple times. But Well, you actually what you do is you cook whatever you want for them. And if they go, well, I don't eat that. It's like, oh, okay. More for me. Well, your loss, my gain, I have to I hate to say it. Next time, don't be so fucking picky.
[01:13:23] Duuude-Ron :
How about a fish fry?
[01:13:28] Bryan Goodwin:
If they're vegan, then the fish is the fish fry is, is is animal.
[01:13:34] Rich Chelson:
Well well well well, Sarah did say she will eat seafood once in a while, but not really. So it's like, you know, I'm sitting here thinking it's like, what what? Do I make a salad and take it over? That'd be, like, totally rude. You know?
[01:13:57] Duuude-Ron :
Well I don't know. Ask them. Ask them. That's how you know. Ask
[01:14:07] Bryan Goodwin:
them. Seriously.
[01:14:08] Duuude-Ron :
No. You say, hey. Do you know you make me all these treats? What can I make for you?
[01:14:14] Rich Chelson:
And they would say, oh, nothing. Nothing. Don't. You don't have to make us nothing. What do you do then, dude? Because I don't know, man. Honestly, I don't.
[01:14:27] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I can't answer that question.
[01:14:32] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:14:33] Duuude-Ron :
Can't help you on that one because
[01:14:37] Rich Chelson:
I don't worry about gluten.
[01:14:42] Duuude-Ron :
Really don't care. Well And I sure the hell ain't vegan. Right. Because I love me I love me a thick steak.
[01:14:49] Rich Chelson:
A thick steak? Oh, yeah.
[01:14:51] Duuude-Ron :
Thick steak. Snake? Yeah. Snake? You ever had snake? It's not too bad.
[01:14:58] Rich Chelson:
No. Honestly, I've never had snake. I would like to try it, though. I've heard it's really good. Well,
[01:15:05] Bryan Goodwin:
next time you come down, to Oklahoma during, during the, the rattlesnake derby, we'll, we'll go down to Mangum. They have they serve, they've served snake there. I would try it. Gets it. Oh, rattlesnake's good. I mean, that's there's not much to it. There's a lot of fucking bone in it, obviously. Mhmm. But it's I mean, it tastes like it. If anything, it's it's close to chicken. I won't say it tastes like chicken. It's just it's the texture and all that reminds people of chicken.
[01:15:34] Rich Chelson:
Really? I Yeah. I was gonna I was gonna ask if it tastes like Gator. If it tastes like Gator, I'm in. Fucking Gator's good, man. Yeah. Gator's good. Oh, fuck. I I tear up some Gator now.
[01:15:48] Duuude-Ron :
Never had gator myself.
[01:15:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, you don't like gator?
[01:15:52] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You're in go next time you're up in the DFW area, go to number 1 Pearl Street and order some, alligator tail.
[01:16:05] Rich Chelson:
Oh, gator is awesome, man. Yeah. Gator is good.
[01:16:09] Duuude-Ron :
The only time I'm up in Dallas, if I'm driving a truck to freaking Grand Prairie, and I don't think I could park that truck on the street and go in and have lunch. I don't think I'd like that.
[01:16:22] Rich Chelson:
Who cares?
[01:16:24] Duuude-Ron :
It's a big truck. So? I don't I don't know if I could get that many parking spaces in a row Dude. That are empty.
[01:16:32] Rich Chelson:
Dude, I remember I remember one time I I was I was coming down through, DFW, right, on 35? And I said, fuck. Let me take the west side to Fort Worth side. Right? Uh-huh. Because I was just tired of of the Dallas side. So I took off 35 w going south, And I was riding on down in about mile marker 8 just before where it where it comes back into 35, I saw a fucking Dairy Queen. I pulled I jumped off that exit, and I pulled right up to their front fucking doors with my truck and trailer. And I parked the truck, and I walked in and got Dairy I blocked the whole fucking parking lot while I went and got my Dairy Queen. And, you know, and you know them parking lots ain't that big. So everyone that was there had to stay there until I got my Dairy Queen. And there was no one else coming in to get in front of me to get my Dairy Queen. I got my Dairy Queen. Oh, hell, dude.
I was yeah. I was craving some Dairy Queen. I ain't scared. I drive a big truck down there.
[01:17:54] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know.
[01:17:56] Rich Chelson:
Or if you want, drive to Grand Prairie, drop the trailer, and say, I'll be back after a while and take the truck and pop Tella to the restaurant. You'll only need 2 parking places then.
[01:18:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's true.
[01:18:11] Rich Chelson:
See? Figure it out by god. Yeah. I'm not scared. I I've done it before more than once. Yeah. Other than that Yeah. It's just I just I just been I just been kinda just chilling.
[01:18:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Chilling north of What's been happening in the ham world?
[01:18:46] Rich Chelson:
Well, on New Year's Day, it was funny because, I saw the numbers and and and then I looked at my site, my one site for, solar flares and shit like that. Uh-huh. We were having a g three storm on New Year's day. I mean, it but it wasn't affecting me that bad because my first, five contacts of New Year's Day was, all in, other countries. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I talked to, Bosnia, Greece, Italy. Shoot. I can't remember the other 2. Dang it. But they were all they were all in in in other countries. And then finally, later in the afternoon when the storm had died down, I talked to a few people here in the states.
So, well, that guy, in a in a in a New Mexico, and then, I made a couple POTA contacts. It was it was actually a pretty good day. Okay. Even with even with the g three storm going.
[01:20:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We're supposed to have a meteor shower tonight and tomorrow night. Meteor shower. Major. Yeah. Major meteor shower. And I wonder which one's here. I can't remember what the name was. I can't remember what the name of the of the belt that's coming across the Earth right now. But they're supposed to be, like, being able to see, like, 40, 50 meteors per hour.
[01:20:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's Oh, it's quant okay. It's, like, the, the quadrant trant id. Quadrantids.
[01:20:53] Rich Chelson:
That's a hard word to say.
[01:20:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It is.
[01:21:00] Duuude-Ron :
So I might go tomorrow night, go out on Fort Hood where it's a little bit darker and see if I can't see any. Right. That'd be interesting. I haven't done that in a long time.
[01:21:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, you should be able to. I mean, when because that's the thing, you know, if they're if they're talking about, 40 to 50 an hour, it's a pretty good chance you're gonna see a couple.
[01:21:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I think I might just do that tomorrow night.
[01:21:40] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool, dude. You ought to do that.
[01:21:44] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? I just might. Yeah. It says may won't even cost me a quarter of a tank of gas.
[01:21:51] Rich Chelson:
See? There you go, dude.
[01:21:53] Duuude-Ron :
Because I won't go all the way. I'll be on the, where Ballora's at. Well, I know you've never been on Fort Hood. But where I'm at, I can go through, the back area to go the back way into the military installation through the back gate versus getting on, you know, I 14 and, you know, going through the front gates where all the barracks and, you know, all that stuff is at. I'll go in through the back way, but about halfway there is Nolanville Road, and it you can go up on a hill and it is quite dark. K. And probably be able to see, hopefully, be able to see some of those meteors.
That'd be nice.
[01:22:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, I would say I would say you would, dude, because of the meteor showers I've watched and and, normally, I watch the Persades and a few of the others during the summer. Yeah. You've I mean, even even if there's light pollution, you can still see quite a few of them.
[01:23:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So
[01:23:17] Rich Chelson:
but yeah. No. It's, see, it's supposed to be cold, man. Near 1745 t c on the third. So that would put it at 11 o'clock at night, about 23100.
[01:23:42] Duuude-Ron :
Is that when they're supposed to be visible?
[01:23:45] Rich Chelson:
No. Hang on. Let's see.
[01:23:52] Duuude-Ron :
Man, if it's 23100, my ass is in bed. I'm an old fucker.
[01:23:57] Rich Chelson:
It says it says predictions for 2025 show a peak near 1745, UTC on January 3rd. And it says, the timing favors the pacific area. So that puts say if we're at 6 hours, 7, 8 hours, so 17 minus 8, put it about 9:45 at night.
[01:24:28] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. I can handle that.
[01:24:33] Rich Chelson:
They've got their numbers all fuckered up.
[01:24:38] Duuude-Ron :
Fuckered up. There you go. That's your big word for the day.
[01:24:43] Rich Chelson:
Fuckered up. No. No. No. They're saying, 17:45 UTC time. Okay? And and if you take the central time zone, we're 6 hours behind. So you minus 6 from 17, You're looking at 11:45 during the day. You're not gonna see nothing during the day.
[01:25:07] Duuude-Ron :
No. He won't.
[01:25:09] Rich Chelson:
You know, and like like like right now, it's it's, 2:25 UTC. 2 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. I think I think they I think they added 12, and they should have subtracted 12.
[01:25:26] Duuude-Ron :
Who fucking knows? But, you know, if I go out there well, hell when it gets dark at what? Fuck. It's completely dark by fucking 7. Yeah. You know, if I drive out there and It's like 5:30 here.
[01:25:40] Rich Chelson:
5:30, it's dark.
[01:25:43] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah.
[01:25:44] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I was gonna say, y'all getting a 7? How do y'all rate? Well, no. I
[01:25:52] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, like I said, it's completely dark by 7, so then, you know, you don't have to worry about any ENT.
[01:26:01] Rich Chelson:
Well, say say if that's the case, that that would put it at at 7. I'd put it at, 0100 UTC. And, see, that's the thing. A lot of these, science sites, They use, UTC, and they don't they don't Oh, they regular people. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I got you. Yeah. The time is in a regular time because a lot of people don't know how to figure Yeah. The time difference, you know. Right. Yeah. A lot do, but yet a lot don't, you know.
[01:26:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And if they're if then if they're not advertising that x time is UTC, it's like, okay. Yeah. 6 what? 6 hour difference to central time zone?
[01:26:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. From UTC? Time zone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right now, it's 6 hours. And then, of course, when we move forward, it'll be 5 hours. Fucks me up for Hopefully. 5 months when that happens. Hopefully
[01:27:10] Duuude-Ron :
hopefully, this will be the fucking last time we ever change the clocks because hopefully, Trump will get when he gets in the office, delete fucking daylight savings time, make not make it an executive order, make it a goddamn fucking law. Right. And because we're the only fucking country that does it. Nobody else does it. Right. Of course and, of course, everybody else in the world goes by the 24 hour clock. We're the only one that goes AM, PM.
[01:27:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I see. Yeah. That's that's something else. You know, it's like but but you see, if we switch to UTC time, then, we would have to go to the metric system and, God forbid, if that happens.
[01:28:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, god. Yeah. No. Uh-uh. We ain't doing that. Right. Right.
[01:28:06] Rich Chelson:
And and you see, that's that's where that's where it's kinda hard for me sometimes because with with ham radio, I deal a lot with metric. I'm I'm still not I'm still not proficient at it by no means. But, I use I use a lot of the metric system, you know, when I'm dealing with, amateur radio. And it Yeah. Sometimes my brain just just frazzles on me for a while. And I gotta stop, go smoke a cigarette, relax, and then think about it again.
[01:28:42] Duuude-Ron :
You know, God forbid if, you know, the United States would, like, just do with what the rest of the world is doing. I know we are I know we're fucking we gotta be unique and all, but Jesus.
[01:28:58] Rich Chelson:
We can still be unique, you know, but I mean, we can still be us. Oh, hey. Did y'all hear Jimmy Carter died?
[01:29:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yep. On the 27th? 9th. 29th? Yeah. Okay.
[01:29:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. He was a 100 years old. I was like, oh, no.
[01:29:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:29:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I'd saw I'd I I had saw something about that. I think I think it was yesterday or today. I couldn't remember. But I saw that, and I was like, holy crap.
[01:29:33] Duuude-Ron :
So now you're just now figuring out why all the, American flags are half staff?
[01:29:38] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. And that's actually what started it because some of the flags that I drive by normally have some, like, why the hell is that a half staff? I I had no clue.
[01:29:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. You know, and that's what I'll do is when I start seeing flags at half staff, it's like, okay. Who passed away? Right. You know? But now they'll be at half staff for 30 days. Yep. Yeah. And if it's if it's a congressman or something like that, I think it's 15 days or diplomat or some shit. I can't remember.
[01:30:17] Rich Chelson:
Well, I was saying that's like sometimes, you know, I, you know, I've seen the flags that have staff and it's like, why the fuck are they at half staff? You know, it's it's like because I mean, I didn't hear about or read about anyone, you know. And and when I say hear, read about, I'm talking like president, you know, someone important to warrant, you know, a flag at half staff.
[01:30:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I did. Well, the president, what was it this past year on the anniversary of Sandy Hook, ordered the, flags at half staff for that day. Really? I think it was Sandy Hook. It was one of the major, shootings
[01:31:07] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:31:08] Duuude-Ron :
That he he did, half staff for that day on the anniversary. He's
[01:31:17] Rich Chelson:
say, I don't know. I mean, I don't wanna sound callous because I'm not, you know. You know, I'm sorry that happened, but I thought I thought running a flag at half staff was only for, like, the federal government, you know, military, you know, stuff like that.
[01:31:38] Duuude-Ron :
I didn't know it could For the most part, yeah. You know? There's only been a couple times that it's been dropped to half staff for, you know, mass shooting, you know, thing, which I think that is very respectable. Right. You know? I if I was president, I'd do the same damn thing. Why not order a fucking half staff for some place that received a mass shooting? That's just showing, you know, the respect of all those individuals that for the victims and the families.
[01:32:16] Rich Chelson:
Right. And no, I you know, I'm not say I'm not saying it as a bad thing. It's just I didn't know that that that was even an option.
[01:32:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. President can, issue an executive order for half staff of the flag for, you know, whatever he deems. Now is he gonna do it fucking every day? No. No. That ain't gonna happen.
[01:32:41] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:32:47] Duuude-Ron :
So who is the oldest pre president? The first Bush is probably now the oldest living president.
[01:33:00] Rich Chelson:
No. I thought he died. Yeah. Did he did he die? I okay. Bush senior? Yeah. No. No. He died, I think. Let me look it up, but I I Okay.
[01:33:13] Duuude-Ron :
And he very well could have, You know?
[01:33:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. He So then you're He died in 2018.
[01:33:19] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. So, I wonder who would he be there? Clinton. Clinton Clinton is the oldest one now. Is probably the oldest. Yeah. Well, he's in his, what, 8 well, eighties.
[01:33:32] Bryan Goodwin:
He's about 11ty. Yeah.
[01:33:36] Duuude-Ron :
And see, the bad thing about it is Biden's still in office, and he's fucking right there with him.
[01:33:43] Rich Chelson:
Actually, Biden is older than Bill Clinton because Yeah. Yeah.
[01:33:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Biden's only 78.
[01:33:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Clinton's 78, and Biden's 81.
[01:33:53] Duuude-Ron :
So then when Biden goes out of the office, he'll be the oldest.
[01:33:59] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yeah.
[01:34:02] Bryan Goodwin:
We'll see for how. Well, hell, you're about Texas. Didn't you?
[01:34:09] Duuude-Ron :
Sure. What? Fuck. I don't know. Sure. You know what? Texas is a Texas. Amazed me.
[01:34:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I think it she's a representative. Kay Granger Oh, yeah. Has been in a nursing home, or assisted living center for 6 months. Hasn't been, yep. She's an elected official and just up and fell off the face of the earth. And no one said a thing, no one questioned. It was like, oh no, no, no, no. They all, the damn woman was at off in assisted living because she couldn't live by herself no more.
[01:34:44] Duuude-Ron :
But she had also, basically stepped down.
[01:34:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Apparently didn't bother to tell nobody, though.
[01:34:55] Duuude-Ron :
Well, she told the people in the
[01:34:58] Bryan Goodwin:
because no one knew. She had been missing on on 6 months worth of rolls. Roll calls. Just
[01:35:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I saw that. That was that's been blowing up on the Internet now for a little while. Yeah. Yeah. Hold it. Hey. I wanna say that again. Who is this person in town? Her name is Kay Granger.
[01:35:21] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:35:22] Bryan Goodwin:
And she is a, I don't know. Let me look. I can't remember if she is a state or federal representative at Texas.
[01:35:32] Duuude-Ron :
She's a state representative.
[01:35:34] Bryan Goodwin:
US state. Yeah. She's a u she's a federal rep.
[01:35:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Is she a federal? Okay. Yeah. She's federal.
[01:35:44] Bryan Goodwin:
And, yeah. She, apparently, about 6 months ago, she, she went into assisted living
[01:35:54] Duuude-Ron :
and,
[01:35:56] Bryan Goodwin:
dementia. Nobody, and nobody said a thing.
[01:36:01] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Now that now that that's wrong.
[01:36:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I agree.
[01:36:09] Rich Chelson:
That is that is misrepresentation
[01:36:12] Bryan Goodwin:
of the American 6 months of no representation from from her district.
[01:36:17] Rich Chelson:
Wow. I mean, what did what did the staffers do all day?
[01:36:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, they were I'm sure they were probably having a good time of free, of of doing whatever they wanted to for free.
[01:36:29] Rich Chelson:
Right. And getting paid for it. Yep. That's crazy, man.
[01:36:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's just I saw that. I was like, I know.
[01:36:40] Bryan Goodwin:
I
[01:36:41] Duuude-Ron :
know. You know, I should become a fucking senator or house of representatives and just fucking work from the house. I'd have to get a fucking computer then. So, you know, that may work. You would. Hey, dude. But but you know have a staffer to work your computer.
[01:36:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly. There you go.
[01:37:00] Duuude-Ron :
And just direct them to what I need. And it's like, get paid a $100,000 a year to, you know, yeah. Tell me what to do. Yeah. Yep.
[01:37:14] Rich Chelson:
Seriously, man. That's hey. That's game on, man. Rocket.
[01:37:21] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. Thank you.
[01:37:23] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool. The dude as as a as a state or a federal representative.
[01:37:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Wells Shit. State rep, it only gets, only gets about $600 a month in Texas. About $7,200 a year as a state, Texas state representative. And, but then you want if you go federal
[01:37:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, if you go federal, it's a 100 and
[01:37:57] Bryan Goodwin:
47,000, isn't it? 174,000. Oh, 100 and Oh, no. Hello. Oh, oh, oh, oh, let's see here. Doing well. See. Compensation from most centers representative, delegates, and resident commissioners from Puerto Rico is 7 174 $1,000. These levels have remained unchanged since 2009. So over 10 years. Holy shit. We've gotta up our pay. We can't we can't afford this.
[01:38:25] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shit. For sure. Well, yeah. Okay. That's their base pay. How much are they getting for fucking allowances?
[01:38:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it depends on what they do.
[01:38:37] Rich Chelson:
Good choice. Yeah.
[01:38:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well Well, I'm sure they're getting I'm sure they're getting different committees and shit. Well, no. But, like, allowance for housing, allowance for food, allowance for this, allowance for car, allows all these other fucking allowance.
[01:38:55] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:38:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. All those other allowances on top of the $174,000 a year to sit around. And anytime I've ever seen the freaking the government sitting around in the chambers, they're just sitting there bullshitting.
[01:39:18] Rich Chelson:
That's what they get paid to do, dude.
[01:39:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know. It's fucking ironic.
[01:39:24] Rich Chelson:
Well, say that's where that's where you know, we are we are doing the wrong thing here. We seriously need to get into government, man, and need to aim high. And get into federal government, man. You can sit and just oh my god. You can sit back, drink your coffee with your little pinky out, and just bullshit all day. I mean, come on now.
[01:39:49] Duuude-Ron :
Or you could be, who's that fucking representative we got for Texas? What the hell is his name? Cruz? And spend God only knows how many how much fucking money on his great big fucking boards that he does when he when he's grilling somebody.
[01:40:08] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:40:10] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? See, that would be the fun part. You could just sit there and grandstand all you want, dear, and send it in, and, Darren's senate hearings.
[01:40:20] Rich Chelson:
Dude, think about it. You could take you could take your outlook and attitude and everything that you have right now, and you could reel other people in the government, man, and get paid to do it.
[01:40:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, that would be like The bad thing the only bad thing about it is is they could grill me too.
[01:40:47] Rich Chelson:
No. They can't because you're not the one on trial. Well, yeah. No. No. They can't grill you because you're the one sitting there talking to the freaking director of Homeland Security asking him, why the fuck didn't you give, you know, the money we've allotted to this area? Or or or or why haven't you closed this border? Why haven't you, you know, messed with the drug trade or anything like this? I mean, dude, you could get paid to do that every day. And then you would get invited to the the, Kennedy Center, go watch shows, eat eat good food.
Man, shoot. You'd be living out on hoe.
[01:41:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Only problem is is I don't do politics very well.
[01:41:42] Rich Chelson:
That's why we need you in the government, man. We don't want politics.
[01:41:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. And you know what? If I showed up in a fucking, set of bib overalls
[01:41:58] Rich Chelson:
That would be a funny sight if I ever saw you on a pair.
[01:42:02] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, yeah. And not and not only just not just only a pair of bib overalls, but red and white striped bib overalls.
[01:42:16] Rich Chelson:
You would be making a fashion statement.
[01:42:20] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, yeah. They asked me, why why why don't you wear a suit? Do we have to fucking is it is there a law that says we have to fucking wear a goddamn suit? No. Probably. I'd be coming in in a fucking T shirt and shorts and Crocs. You and your Crocs, man. Yep. Why not? There's nothing saying that, you know, they have to wear a suit. What what what what is wearing a suit compared to a T shirt and shorts that is gonna negate my morals, ethics, character, and integrity.
[01:43:11] Rich Chelson:
Well, I think I think they have something prepared to explain that, but oh, wow. The federal government does have a dress code. It varies by agency, department, position, and other factors. But, for most professional staff, which is what you would be, the dress code includes, traditional business attire such as a coat and tie for men and a pantsuit dress or skirt for women.
[01:43:47] Duuude-Ron :
Fuck that.
[01:43:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you can always go off and say you identify as a woman and wear a dress.
[01:43:53] Duuude-Ron :
What? No. I would I would identify as
[01:43:57] Rich Chelson:
You can wear a pink chiffon dress, man. No.
[01:44:01] Duuude-Ron :
I'm not Klinger. Not corporal Klinger. No. Couldn't couldn't do that, but I damn sure say, you know what? Fuck your dress code. I didn't get elected for on a dress code. Y'all like the overalls? Y'all like the shorts and the t shirt? Hey. You know what? You can't fire me. So what are you gonna do? Find me?
[01:44:32] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:44:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You can't. It would be fine or cinch or 1 of the 2.
[01:44:37] Rich Chelson:
Or both.
[01:44:38] Duuude-Ron :
Or both. Oh, okay. What's that gonna fucking what's that gonna do? I still fucking voice my opinion. Yeah. SENTURE?
[01:44:51] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. When well, see, that's the thing, SENTURE, Yeah. You could say anything you wanted, but they just fine you for whatever you said. So your so your $174,000 wouldn't be a 100 cent. It'd be 23¢.
[01:45:07] Duuude-Ron :
You you think that they're paying those fines? Seriously?
[01:45:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, I don't know.
[01:45:14] Duuude-Ron :
I I I highly doubt that when they get censured, they're actually paying those fines out of their pocket. I highly doubt it. No. I could be wrong. You know, I'm not a politician. Don't fucking deal with that. But, you know, I highly doubt that. Because, you know, I could make one deal with this contractor and make that money back. Right?
[01:45:41] Rich Chelson:
Possibly so. I mean, I don't know, dude.
[01:45:44] Duuude-Ron :
No. Because that's putting my character and integrity into question. I like that.
[01:45:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:45:58] Duuude-Ron :
So that's another reason why I couldn't play that game because 98% of them ain't got no integrity. No. I And their and their character is always in question.
[01:46:16] Rich Chelson:
But that's the thing. Who who's the or what what basis, I guess. Trying to find the right word for it, but, I mean, who's to say whether your character is good or bad? You know what I mean? I mean, what's what's the basis for that? I mean, obviously, the obvious thing, bad character, you know, is if you're, you know, always in trouble with the law and shit like that, you know. But but if you're not in trouble with the law, who can actually question your character is There's only what I'm asking.
[01:47:05] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there's only one person that's ever gonna be able to question my character.
[01:47:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. No. No. I know that. You know? But but, you know, that's you see, this is what see, this is this is stuff I think about because it's like it's like who of us is allowed to question another person's character? Because that person, that might be all they know, and they're doing life by them.
[01:47:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I have no problem judging other people's character. Okay. I'll I'll do it. I mean, they'll they'll judge me. I mean, and that's on, in all re in all seriousness, when it comes to, you know, what we judge a character, you know what people bitch about? What's that? Judging a character that they don't agree with. If I say you're a good man, that's a judge to your character.
[01:48:07] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah.
[01:48:09] Bryan Goodwin:
That's me judging your character. I according to who I am, your character's, your character's, is is good. Your moral character's a good man, Charlie Brown, but yet we throw a fit whenever we go, dude, you are just the lowest life scumball that it's ever come across the face of the earth. Oh my god. You can't judge me. No. No. No. No. No. You have no problem when I said you're a good dude. You're a great dad. You're a great uncle there. But, you know, but all of a sudden, I say, yeah. You're you're you're a little rough on the person. Oh my God. You're horrible. You you you can't judge me. Bullshit. We make judgments all the damn time. Okay. We are always making judgment.
If you wanna judge on making a left turn or right turn, I I think my judgment is telling me it's faster to make a 10 turn. That's judging. We're always making judgments. We're making a judgment call. I think we need to spend money on, you know, electricity instead of on the gas for the car. Okay. That's it. It's just we're making judgments. We constantly make judgments, but the problem that everybody has is when they make judgments that they don't agree with or they don't wanna hear. They actually Okay. May agree with them that you've got a low qual that you've got a bad character set, but they don't wanna have to admit that. They don't wanna have to face that discomfort. So they're going to throw a fit about it and go, oh, well, you can't judge me. Well, bullshit. Dude, I just did. Well, who are you? I'm me.
You're gonna have whatever judgment you wanna have of me. You probably think I'm a son of a bitch. Okay. Sweet. You do. You, man. I have no problem with you calling me a son of a bitch. Right. You call me a lowlife scumbag. Alright. Sweet. I'm a lowlife scumbag. The issue though, is that to to throw a fit about me making a judgment is a fallacy.
[01:50:16] Rich Chelson:
Oh god. That's the zip. The word that that has escaped the definition has escaped my mind. A falsehood. Never mind. Yeah. I got it. Yeah. It's a falsehood. It's a fallacy. Yeah. I'm sorry. My, you said fallacy, and my brain just, like, fucking exploded for a second. My my your brain went to foul.
[01:50:38] Duuude-Ron :
Exploded or imploded?
[01:50:43] Rich Chelson:
It it imploded first and then exploded out. Yeah. It was like because it's been so long since I heard that word fallacy.
[01:50:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, the reason that it's so easy to remember fallacy is just because it starts out with phallic. And so I was like, so Sure.
[01:51:07] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Brian,
[01:51:09] Bryan Goodwin:
your your mind is your mind is Oh, hell yeah. I've I've I have no problem admitting that I have got I I've got a I I I'm a dirty bird when it comes to it comes to thoughts.
[01:51:22] Rich Chelson:
That is that is I'm not gonna argue that point, dude. Not at all.
[01:51:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Man, come on. It's like if you stop time. The question we had a couple a couple weeks ago. You stop time, what are you gonna do? Well, I'm gonna go and undress all the good looking girls. That's what I'm gonna do. I would Is that what you moral? No. I mean, we didn't say anything about moral. It's just what would you do.
[01:51:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I would go slap so many fucking people.
[01:51:56] Bryan Goodwin:
There's always a certain time audit. You see half the town go, whack. Oh, son of a bitch. What the hell?
[01:52:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. And and I will always laugh and I find it absolutely hilarious. And I don't know why. I just fucking find it hilarious when somebody gets hit in the fucking head with, like, oh, a basketball or a fucking it doesn't matter. When somebody gets macked in the head, it just is fucking hilarious to me. You know, with somebody getting smacked in the back of the head, man, I just fucking that's hilarious. I don't know why, but that is fucking hilarious. One of those, man, it sucks to be you type things. Exactly. Yeah. Funny.
Funny as hell.
[01:52:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I I, I had chuckle if that happens because I'm thinking, damn. I'm glad I'm I'm glad I wasn't in the way. You know? Yeah. It happened to me.
[01:53:01] Duuude-Ron :
Or when that grizzly bear gets hit in the fucking nuts with the fucking,
[01:53:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Called with the bungee cord. Yeah. I'm like the bison cord.
[01:53:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. That's funny too.
[01:53:24] Rich Chelson:
Did I tell y'all about the, the, 10 meter single sideband contest I worked in in December?
[01:53:32] Duuude-Ron :
Nope. Well, you you mentioned it, but what is there been an outcome?
[01:53:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, in fact, let me look on that, but I I I got I got something else I can, while I look this up. I can look and see where I placed. But, now what I did is I don't wanna upload my logs. Damn it. Already did that. I I wound up with 16,240 points. That that was my raw score. And I think I had a 140 contacts, which is pretty cool. And then, I just do it this way. But, anyway, what I did was after that, I, I wrote down all the contests for this year that that I plan to enter. And the and the, first one is not, is not really is not due till March.
So I've got I've got some time off to prepare. Yeah. On March 1st 2nd is the international DX phone, single sideband voice. That's gonna be a big one because everybody in the world is gonna be on that one. And then there's there's others, spread throughout the year. So, yeah, that's what I want. So, yeah, that's that's,
[01:55:27] Duuude-Ron :
Whole bunch of people gonna be stepping all over each other?
[01:55:30] Rich Chelson:
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's right. I ain't gonna lie. It's it I tell you what, it was it was, it was, crazy. The 10 meter was was crazy. I got a lot of, DX. It was cool. I mean, Yeah. I got see, I got to, country, Kalengrad. I had never heard of that country.
[01:56:03] Duuude-Ron :
But,
[01:56:05] Rich Chelson:
I had gotten, I had gotten, Yeah. That's what I'm looking for. Trying to do 2 things at once. Talk and,
[01:56:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We we can we can we can tell.
[01:56:21] Rich Chelson:
Find the contest. Squirrel. Well, see see, I gotta somewhat pay attention because I gotta find I'm I'm on a contest, but I gotta find, single operator, phone only. Low power. Yeah. That's me. That's that's what I was in. See, I wish I could look by my call sign, but I wanna see. Yeah. I guess, hang on. I can go by scores because well, I did make the top 100. I can tell you that. See.
[01:57:05] Bryan Goodwin:
It was rigged.
[01:57:06] Rich Chelson:
I know, right? Motherfucking slacker. Number 1 number 126.
[01:57:13] Bryan Goodwin:
That's so bad out of how many?
[01:57:16] Rich Chelson:
Well, just in my class. Hang on. Let me get to the last page. 126 out of 583 in my class.
[01:57:26] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what that gets you? What? One of those 3 inch plastic gold plated trophies.
[01:57:36] Rich Chelson:
3. What is that?
[01:57:40] Duuude-Ron :
Or is that or was that just reserved for the top 100?
[01:57:44] Rich Chelson:
I think that was reserved for the top 100, dude.
[01:57:49] Duuude-Ron :
So you get a 1 inch plastic, non gold plated trophy that says loser.
[01:57:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. I gotta say, honestly, I I mean, I I thought I did pretty good. You know, I was I was actually kinda surprised. Oh, I know it's there. I'm trying to see, if I can find it in my Sure. It's for my call sign area, which is
[01:58:31] Duuude-Ron :
Dickhead 12? Dickhead 12?
[01:58:36] Rich Chelson:
Dickhead 12.
[01:58:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Isn't that your call sign?
[01:58:40] Rich Chelson:
No.
[01:58:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, no. It's the it's the his call sign is k o c k.
[01:58:49] Rich Chelson:
No. It is nothing Nothing gets you up like the call. Lima mic. Oh, there it is.
[01:59:00] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll and and that's why I always wanted to have my if I was ever to do a radio station, that's actually what I wanted my radio station's, call sign to be, was the KOCK. Just you know? It'd have stuff like nothing gets you up in the morning like the big cock. You know?
[01:59:19] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Something tells me they wouldn't let me do that, though. No. Probably not. No. Probably not. But Can't even have a license plate like that.
[01:59:29] Rich Chelson:
Alright. Let me do something here. Chipotle. Yeah. No. The, FCC would would definitely frown upon
[01:59:43] Duuude-Ron :
that. Probably so.
[01:59:47] Rich Chelson:
Oh, crap.
[01:59:49] Duuude-Ron :
It's not. Oh, crap. Well, that might be a call sign too. Oh crap.
[01:59:57] Bryan Goodwin:
No. But I like it. I like k k r p. Yeah.
[02:00:02] Rich Chelson:
Oh, there's there's hands with, call signs that that, spell out different names, and it's it's actually pretty cool. And I can't think of them right offhand.
[02:00:19] Duuude-Ron :
Can you request a certain, call sign, or is it
[02:00:24] Rich Chelson:
Your your your, first call sign has to be issued by the FCC. The first one, you know, when you take your test and pass, you have to have been issued by the FCC. But after that, it, you know, if you think of a call sign, they've got a database. You can look Uh-huh. And see if it's being used. And if it's not being used, then yes. You can apply for it.
[02:00:54] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So So so if you applied for Peker Checker
[02:00:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We p k r c k r.
[02:01:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. Oh, there you go. There you go.
[02:01:08] Rich Chelson:
No. You wouldn't get it.
[02:01:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:01:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. Because it's it's it's normally, 5 or 5 or a 6 digit call sign at first. And then, and then, as you upgrade, like, I've got I've got what's called a 1 by 3. And, I could even go to a 2 by 2. 2 by ones are are just special event call signs, or 1 by ones are. Normally, you can have a 1 by 2 or 2 by 1 if if you have like a,
[02:01:47] Duuude-Ron :
extra Every every bit of that shit just went so far up over my head. I can't I can't even fucking put my hand up and reach it.
[02:01:59] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Hang on. I've I've got this figured out here. Okay. With the number 5 in my call sign. Okay?
[02:02:09] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:02:10] Rich Chelson:
That area, we call it 5 land. That spans Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas. Okay. And in this last contest, the the 10 meter contest, just in my call sign area, those states, I ranked number 7.
[02:02:38] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there you go. Out of 54.
[02:02:41] Rich Chelson:
Out of so there was only 54 people who operated in this contest out of the 5 call area.
[02:02:52] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:02:53] Rich Chelson:
And I ranked number 7. So that's not too bad.
[02:03:02] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there you go. I am too bad. Your trophy just got to be an inch and a half from an inch.
[02:03:11] Bryan Goodwin:
It's getting bigger, man. It's getting bigger.
[02:03:14] Duuude-Ron :
Well You know what? And it's it's still bigger than this pecker.
[02:03:18] Rich Chelson:
Yes. It is, by God. But but now, I have realized on the next contest, I have to upgrade and, upgrade my abilities and make more contacts because the the the distance between number 6 and number 7 is 3,000 points. And then to make the top 5, I was 9,000 points away. 93100. Golly. Yeah. Yeah. That's points. That's, you know, I'm not sure about how many contacts, but that's a lot of dadgum contacts. Let's put it that way.
[02:04:03] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So how do you get points? So if you make one contact, and does it go by country or distance that you make your points?
[02:04:17] Rich Chelson:
Actually, by, yes, by country, county, grid square. Those are called multipliers. You get points for for for making the contact. You get, like, 2 points for making the contact. Okay? But, like, okay, let's say let's say it's another country, you get what's called a multiplier on top of that. And it's different it's different for every contest, and I really don't know how that works, but you get extra points for for contact in different countries because I think I think I talked to, what, 20 27 or 30 some odd countries just in that weekend alone.
[02:05:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:05:05] Rich Chelson:
So so I got I got extra points for all those different countries. Okay. And then, in in each of the states, because some states have, multiple areas, and I would get extra points for contacting that area like LAX. Because you've got LAX, you've got San Diego, you've got San Jose, you know, you've got multiple areas in California. Oregon or or Washington, you've got Eastern and Western Washington. Canada, you've got shit. Nova Scot. Each of the provinces. Oh. You know, British Columbia, Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island is Correct. So, I mean, you can get extra points besides just making the contact. So that's what that's what boosts your score up.
[02:06:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[02:06:12] Rich Chelson:
And so and some of the contests like like this one here, this one ran, 48 hours. So and and they've gone and put limits on on a lot of them saying, you know, you you can work the whole 48 hours, but only the first 30 hours will count. Because, basically, what they want want people to do is sleep.
[02:06:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:06:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[02:06:50] Rich Chelson:
You know, I mean I mean I mean, some of the old men, they'll say, fuck it. I'm out. I'm going to bed, you know. But but there are serious protesters. They will stay up from the time it starts till the time it finishes, barely taking a break to piss and maybe grab a sandwich, and they will stay on that radio the whole time. And that's not healthy.
[02:07:17] Duuude-Ron :
No. And what okay. What did first place win?
[02:07:23] Rich Chelson:
Bragging rights. And a and a and a I think a plaque or a certificate is all. Wow.
[02:07:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's great. I got fucking I don't know how many and it's not ham. Military certificates, awards, and all that other shit sitting in a fucking 3 ring binder.
[02:07:46] Rich Chelson:
Right? But but see, that's the thing. Hams don't really do it to I mean, some people do, yes, because that's how some people are built. They have to win no matter what. You know what I mean? So so so they will go above and beyond, and they will do everything they can to ensure it knowing that they might not win. Okay? Because in a contest, you don't ever know what the other person has for contacts or for or for a score. Yeah. And you've got different classes, you know, and stuff like this. And so, you know, it's just you just go make as many as you can. And if you win, cool. If you don't, okay. Well, step your game up next time or, you know, be happy with what you get.
And Yeah. See this thing, ham radio, that's where I'm not really that competitive in it. I mean, yes. Do I wanna break into the top 5? Yes. I do. That would be, like, really cool. You know, if I ever hit number 1 in a my call area or in a contest, that would be great. But, again, it's not gonna change the way I live. You know? So I don't know. It's I mean, for me, I I just think differently.
[02:09:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I will give you that 100%. But
[02:09:21] Rich Chelson:
I just I just enjoy doing it because, say, a lot of times during a contest too, you will hear countries or or different parts of the world that you normally don't hear on a regular day to day basis, you know. But Yeah. When it's contest time, and oh my god, some of these stations, they talk so fast. Think of think of the fastest person you know who can talk as fast and then double it. These people talk so fast that I've gotta sit and listen to them for 5 minutes before I can figure out their call sign sometimes.
[02:10:04] Duuude-Ron :
What they said 5 minutes ago? Right.
[02:10:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because I mean, you know, I mean, shit. Like like, well, you've talked to Breezy. You know how fast Breezy talks?
[02:10:17] Bryan Goodwin:
You know, I've really never had a conversation. Excited? Yeah. About a 1000 miles an hour.
[02:10:23] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Times that by 2, Brian. Seriously. He's a motherfucker. And and once I get him, you know, you know, once once I get their call sign, I'm fine because that's the main thing I need, you know. And different contests, we have to exchange different information. So once I find out their call sign and most of their information, I can fill the blanks in. You know what I mean? Ah, okay. So so so so I'll sit and listen to them, get most all the information I need, and then I'll contact them, get them. And then, normally, all I need from them is a, serial number.
Like, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 100, 500, whatever. And so yeah. But, yeah, that's that's how I do it. And that's probably why I I don't get too high of scores is because I take so much time. And also, I've learned in, contests, in a few contests that I've ran, a lot of people don't get Mississippi because Uh-huh. There's only maybe a couple people operating the contest in Mississippi. Because, like like, on this last one, in an in a November
[02:11:53] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:11:55] Rich Chelson:
Quite a few people that that I told them I was in Mississippi. They're like, Mike Sierra? I said, yeah. And they're like, no. Are you sure is it Mike Sierra? I said, yes. They're like, oh my god. I've been wanting that one. You know, I mean I mean, these guys are like, holy shit. I just got Mississippi from from wherever they're at, you know. So, yeah, apparently, I don't think many people, do ham radio contest in Mississippi. Uh-huh. One guy does. I do know that. 1 guy does. And I don't know his call, but, yeah. He does. But, yeah, a lot of people don't I don't know why, but they don't get Mississippi. When they find out where I'm at, they're like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Cool. I need a Mississippi. Like like, one guy I talked to was it, Greece or no. Spain.
Southern southern tip of Spain. Malaga is is where he lives. Told him I was in I was in Mississippi, and he was ecstatic. He was like, hey. He he, you know, confirmed with me a couple of times. I'm like, yes, sir. He's like, oh, that's cool. I've been trying to get all the states, you know, because,
[02:13:18] Duuude-Ron :
you know Yeah. They probably they probably got a thing like, the people that have RVs that collect all the states that they've been into, little stickers. Yeah. That's an option. Probably for them, it's like, okay. This is a goal, you know, I want to have, you know,
[02:13:37] Rich Chelson:
the Well, please go ahead. Colored in. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. You're right. Believe it or not, trying to get all 50 states in the United States is a challenge because trying to talk to someone in Mississippi when you're in Mississippi, it's it's it's it's damn near impossible. I haven't even done it. Why? Why? Because Why? Why? Let me explain real quick. Okay? On on HF frequencies, the signals bounce out too far. It's not HF is not good for local communications unless No. It over it overshoots it, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Unless you're running like like an o e 254. Uh-huh. If, I could build an o e 254 for HF frequencies.
Yes. I could get another ham station in Mississippi because that is that is designed for short range communications about 60 to a 100 miles. Okay? Right. Now but my little 41 foot wire that's hanging up out in the air, it it overshoots the whole state of Mississippi by far. And Wow. And even Alabama. I overshoot Alabama. Once in a while, I can hear Louisiana. Arkansas, I can barely get them. Once in a while, I get Arkansas. Even Missouri. You know? Now my my signal shoots, like, way up north. I can get Florida. I can get the eastern side of Florida a lot of times. But, yeah, normally, that from here where I'm at, yeah, I shoot everything.
But, yeah, that's that's a goal. That's a common goal Hans go after is worked all states, and then there's worked all counties because there's over 3,077 counties in the US. So that's an award for someone to work towards, and that's that's a challenge. I ain't even nowhere close to work in all counties yet.
[02:15:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Mark, where?
[02:16:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think in states, I think I've got, well, I've got Mississippi. I know that. I think I gotta double check, but, I think I've got one more state. I think I'm waiting on confirmation from Hawaii. I've worked I've worked Hawaii a couple times. In fact, on that last contest, I had worked Hawaii. That was cool. But yeah. No. It's it I I mean, man, it's just fun. I've got a I've got a 41 foot piece of wire. One ends up 33 feet, and the other ends up off the ground about 7 feet. And I talk all over the fucking world with it. I love it on a 100 watts.
[02:16:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh.
[02:16:53] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm. I'm sorry. I get I get I get so excited.
[02:17:03] Bryan Goodwin:
You really get man.
[02:17:05] Rich Chelson:
I just
[02:17:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I bet your pickers all all kinds of an inch and 3 quarters now. Yeah. By God. I didn't wanna think that.
[02:17:16] Bryan Goodwin:
All kinds of,
[02:17:18] Duuude-Ron :
you know, got your dick hard.
[02:17:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh. So excited. I mean, think about it, though. Sitting here at my house with my small, modest little setup And I'm talking to Greece. I'm talking to Italy, Switzerland. You know? Just Spain, Portugal, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Barbados, Saint Martin, Belize. And then and then, of course, Canada and all over the United States. It's it's just it's amazing to me still. And I've been doing this 17 years. Well well, starting 18. As of February 14th, 2007. Valentine's Day. 2007 was when I first got licensed.
[02:18:17] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[02:18:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Seriously. I was actually still married at the time. Wasn't married much longer after that because it was like the end of April, and me and my second wife got separated. But it was her choice, not mine. It was her choice. And so yeah. But, yeah, February 14th of 2017. Yeah. Or no. No. 2007.
[02:19:01] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know what Make up your mind.
[02:19:04] Bryan Goodwin:
2007. Make up your mind.
[02:19:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Back then, I was running cross country. I was running from, New York to LA. Oh, I love that. Oh, god. I loved it.
[02:19:21] Duuude-Ron :
That was fun. Yeah. Thank you.
[02:19:24] Rich Chelson:
Aw, dude, man.
[02:19:25] Duuude-Ron :
I'll just I'll just stick to my, you know, my daily little route and, you know, go from there. Do my do my 8 hours or 10 or today was 12. And, you know, come home and go to bed and get up and rinse and repeat. I know. I'm just a fucking creature of habit. Work, home, work, home. Walmart, home. Work, home. I know. I'm just a boring motherfucker. I can only imagine what the listeners. It's like, man, this guy is fucking a boring fucker. Got got no goddamn life. He doesn't play ham sandwich. You know, he doesn't do shit. He doesn't even wheel no more. No. I had yep. It's been quite some time.
Patrick keeps asking me, that's about every week. When the fuck are we gonna go wheeling? Well, eventually. Eventually. I just you know, everything else going on in my world has just kinda lost the fucking, you know, just kinda lost that motivation. Yeah. It's like, you know, it there's right now, yeah, to go out and go wheeling is just not enjoying.
[02:21:14] Rich Chelson:
But but you see the thing is, though, how do you know because you haven't been?
[02:21:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. I know. I mean, honestly And my and my neighbor, great guy. As a matter of fact, that's the only Christmas present I got was from him, and he bought me some d rings for the front of my Jeep that is almost color coded to the purple that I have on the rest of my accents for my Jeep. Oh, that's cool, dude. He bought me a set of, d rings. And when he said, you know, I'm gonna get you something for Christmas. I'm like, why the fuck are you gonna get me anything for Christmas? He's like, because I can and I like you. And he
[02:21:57] Rich Chelson:
and I'm like like, really? What the fuck did I do to make you like me, man?
[02:22:03] Duuude-Ron :
Well, and we get along pretty good. He's probably, oh, I could almost be his dad.
[02:22:11] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:22:13] Duuude-Ron :
Age wise, he's in his, oh, thick, late mid thirties.
[02:22:21] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:22:22] Duuude-Ron :
So, yeah, I could be his dad. But, you know, he's wanting to go out wheeling with me. I'm like, well, next time, I go out wheeling, you'll definitely be, hanging out with me. So Patrick keeps bugging me, where we gonna go wheeling? Like, fuck. I don't know.
[02:22:40] Rich Chelson:
There you go. You've you've got someone to hang with. Yeah. You know, besides Patrick, I mean, you know, I mean, yeah, Patrick would love it too, but, you know, you've got someone else that you could teach you could teach them the right way to wheel.
[02:23:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yes. Well, he has had not a Jeep, but he has had off we off road vehicles that he's had in his lifetime. So he's been wheeling. He just wants to he hasn't been, you know, gone out wheeling himself, and he, you know, he said it's probably been close to a decade of the last time he had a vehicle that could do that, and he was out in Mexico. Why?
[02:23:34] Rich Chelson:
You ain't on the trail. Why? Dude, y'all go out and have some fun, man. Grab Patrick and just fucking make a day of it, dude. Make some sandwiches.
[02:23:50] Duuude-Ron :
Sammages.
[02:23:51] Rich Chelson:
Sammages, dude. Seriously, make some sandwiches, put some drinks in the cooler, and get busy with it.
[02:24:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. One day. I'll get motivated again.
[02:24:10] Rich Chelson:
Well, let you know, let's let's hope, dude, because because I do I I might not say it, but I I do worry about you like this because I know. I know you do. I I've known I've known I've known other people to basically, you know, you know, do what you've done, you know, other than me. And they've they've ran all their friends off, and they have no one to hang out with, no one to talk to, and everything like this because they think like you do. And it's like Yeah. It's like, no. Get out of this, man. Get out of this. You you you have been in this funk too fucking long.
[02:24:56] Bryan Goodwin:
I agree.
[02:24:58] Rich Chelson:
So, I mean Yeah. Just say fuck it and get out of it. Yeah. You have to, man. Because if you don't, you're gonna wind up like me, like I was before I moved and just said fuck it and just drove south until I couldn't drive south.
[02:25:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:25:16] Rich Chelson:
I mean, seriously, you knew how I was then.
[02:25:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:25:22] Rich Chelson:
You know, I mean, I I just I just had to say fuck it and drive.
[02:25:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:25:31] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So Yeah. I gotcha.
[02:25:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Ouch. So when are you gonna act on it?
[02:25:48] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. I'll have to get with Patrick to find out when he's got a free weekend.
[02:25:54] Rich Chelson:
You'll be wheeling Saturday. Patrick be like, fuck it, dude. We're out. Oh, shit.
[02:26:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Whenever he's not on call. Because he's on call 2 weekends and then off a weekend, then 2 weekends, he's back on call and then off a weekend. So that's basically how they're running with where he works at.
[02:26:28] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, text him or call him and say, dude, you on call? He's like, yeah. But next weekend, I'm off. Then you're set, dude.
[02:26:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:26:40] Rich Chelson:
You know? Hell, yeah.
[02:26:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because my my neighbor is just like he's biting it. He's just gnawing at the reins to when the fuck are we gonna go? Well, that's When the hell we gotta go wheeling?
[02:27:01] Rich Chelson:
Get a hold of Patrick and find out, and then you can tell him. And, you know, tell your neighbor ahead of time so he can make sure he's off if unless he's not off every weekend. Yeah. He's off every weekend. Oh, okay. And just tell him, alright, dude. We're rolling out at 07 or 6. Yeah. You know?
[02:27:27] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. I have to put that in the books for possibly a weekend. Let's see what this calendar say. Do to do. Let me look at the calendar. Weekend of 18th.
[02:27:50] Rich Chelson:
That's that's the weekend Matt and Dee are coming down here.
[02:27:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, okay.
[02:27:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm I'm on, take him to Dolphin Island into Bayou La Batre.
[02:28:06] Duuude-Ron :
There there you go. Yeah. In Dolphin Island, what? Has dolphins, or is that what it's named after or named for? Or as you said, that's just the name of the island?
[02:28:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, as far as I know, that's just the name of the island, dolphin, d a u p h I n. I mean, there's there's dolphins all over the gulf. And, I mean, right up close and everything. So but, Dolphin Island is, back back during the civil war, Fort Gaines was a Confederate, fort on this island. And they had big cannons, and they would shoot and and repel the Union Army's Navy because Okay. Dolphin Island is at the entrance of the bay going up into Mobile.
[02:29:02] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:29:03] Rich Chelson:
And and it's, it's it's it's like, I don't know, 20 or 30 miles stretch from Dolphin Island up to Mobile by waterway. And so Fort Gaines was was built there. And it's still standing. It's a it's a, terrace place.
[02:29:21] Duuude-Ron :
Right? Okay. And I can't remember what the name there was an island at the beginning of the, Mississippi River that was the same thing for the union held it for, traffic going up into the, going north in the Mississippi. But I don't remember I don't remember the name of it. Okay. Well, here. Hang on. But, yeah, there's a lot of, you know, going in inland waterways. It, yeah, had, civil war forts to control that waterway. Yeah. Right. Mhmm. Well, there's,
[02:30:02] Rich Chelson:
I've heard I haven't I haven't I haven't been out there yet because there is a cruise.
[02:30:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. The river cruise?
[02:30:13] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. No. No. No. This cruise goes from Gulfport out to this one island, and there's there's a remains of an old fort. I'm not sure if it was Union or Confederate, but what they do is, take you out there. Well, there's one, Fort Massachusetts, which is out on, say, what is that? Is that Horn Island? No. That's ship island. There's another fort there that that kinda covered the, Gulf Coast. See, I I see, I think that fort is on Cat Island. I'm not sure. But this this, company leaves Gulfport, takes you out to this island, drops you off, and they leave and you can stay out there all day and hang out.
Uh-huh. And then they'll they'll, they'll come back and pick you up. And that's that's all on the, Mississippi side.
[02:31:32] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:31:34] Rich Chelson:
But let me see where.
[02:31:39] Duuude-Ron :
You know, one thing one thing on my bucket list Mhmm. Is to go on that, they have that riverboat cruise Mhmm. That's that starts down in the wherever the gulf comes in for the Mississippi River and goes all the way up to what is it, Illinois?
[02:32:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, it goes farther than that, dude. I think it goes into Iowa, if I remember right. North of Hannibal.
[02:32:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But that cruise, you know, to do that riverboat cruise, that's a bucket list. Same way with, driving the, Appalachian Trail.
[02:32:29] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:32:32] Duuude-Ron :
I would I wouldn't, hike the Appalachian Trail. No. Thank you. I'll drive it, but I ain't gonna hike it. There's a lady that, she was in her seventies that hiked the whole Appalachian Trail. 1,300 and somewhat miles. Good for her. Yep. Very happy. Took her, what did they say? Took her, like, 8 months to do that?
[02:33:12] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I believe it.
[02:33:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because she she was a retired, I think it was a history teacher, and that was her major bucket list. And it's like she was retired, didn't have a timeline. Just out for a stroll on the Appalachian Trail for 1,300 plus miles.
[02:33:36] Rich Chelson:
That's the way to do it.
[02:33:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. You're right.
[02:33:40] Rich Chelson:
I mean, seriously, that's that's the way to do anything. Don't have a timeline. Just do it at your pace when you want and how you want, and you're good. Yep. Okay. Let's see. The end of the Mississippi River where it goes into the gulf. Yeah. It's it's at the southernmost point, and it's south of pilot town, pilot town, Louisiana. And that's probably 75 miles south of New Orleans. Well, here, I can measure it. I forget Google Maps has a measuring tool.
[02:34:44] Duuude-Ron :
I don't even know what the hell we're I don't even remember what the hell we're
[02:34:50] Rich Chelson:
That's close. Yeah? Yeah. About, yeah, about 75 miles south of New Orleans. Mississippi River comes out into the Gulf of Mexico. Now I don't think that's I don't think that's where the trip starts because there ain't nothing out there in, pilotstown.
[02:35:14] Duuude-Ron :
I Yeah. I I don't remember. I don't remember where it started at. But it goes all the way up to almost the, you know, north side of the United States is where the, where it ends.
[02:35:30] Rich Chelson:
Well, the headwaters is in, Minnesota. Lake Itasca, Minnesota.
[02:35:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's where the that's where it goes up to or close to that.
[02:35:41] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:35:45] Duuude-Ron :
So I think that's like a it's like a 2 week trip. See? And if I if I did it, it's like I go up and back. There you go. Just because I ain't fly I ain't fucking going all the way up and then flying back. It's like, shit. I'll just fucking turn the boat around, and I'll just hang out and, you know, come back down.
[02:36:12] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. There's I mean, that's the way to do it, dude. Figure out figure out figure out, figure out how much it costs and, you know, go for it.
[02:36:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:36:40] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[02:36:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know.
[02:36:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. What'd you find? Mississippi River?
[02:36:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's a state. I remember it. No. The Mississippi River. Oh, river out there. So Mississippi River. Remember?
[02:37:02] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Stretching for 2,350 miles from from, say, Minnesota's Lake Itasca to the Gulf of Mexico, Viking Cruises actually offers a trip down the mighty Mississippi.
[02:37:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Shit.
[02:37:27] Rich Chelson:
They're expensive.
[02:37:30] Duuude-Ron :
No. I believe it. Saint
[02:37:33] Rich Chelson:
New Orleans, Louisiana or Saint Paul, Minnesota to New Orleans, Louisiana, $12,000.
[02:37:43] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I guess I ain't got that. I guess I ain't gonna be scratching that one off my bucket list anytime soon.
[02:37:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh my gosh. That's with Viking. I mean I mean, you see, that's the thing. That's that's just with 1. They've got I know I know they've got, others. You know, I don't know if all of them are the same price, but that was with Viking. Yeah. $12,000 to go from so, yeah, it would cost 24,000 to go round trip.
[02:38:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. You know, yeah. And, actually, what would be the kicker out of that is to actually, do that cruise on one of the, big wheel, steamships. That would be cool. Yeah. It would. Now that would be cool.
[02:38:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:38:41] Duuude-Ron :
But I don't think there's too many of those hanging around anymore.
[02:38:46] Rich Chelson:
They got a few New Orleans that, run run the Mississippi River up and down. 1 Yeah. Yeah. There's still some paddle boats. True. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One is still, one's called the Creole Queen out of New Orleans.
[02:39:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. That would be now that one would be a fun one to do.
[02:39:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. That one. Yeah. That that's still going.
[02:39:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it may not go it may not go all the way up to freaking Minnesota, but, you know, just to do that paddle boat, that would be, yeah, that'd be fun.
[02:39:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I don't think they would go that far north. But, like, let's say they've got they've got a historic cruise, and they, go by the French Quarter, the port of New Orleans, Jean Lafitte National Historic Park and Preserve. And, they have different stuff there. What's doesn't say. It's a full day. Yeah. Well, they even serve lunch, man.
[02:40:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Adult Well, at least they serve lunch. I mean, come on.
[02:40:11] Rich Chelson:
Well, it starts at 10 o'clock. Okay. So 10 o'clock and it gets back at 4:30. So it's actually a long fucking day and, $67. So Oh. Yeah. That's actually not too bad. That is not bad at all. And you can ride a paddle wheeler.
[02:40:40] Duuude-Ron :
That's cool. I just keep thinking that I do I keep thinking about that price that you just threw out. $12,000
[02:40:49] Rich Chelson:
Jesus.
[02:40:50] Bryan Goodwin:
You go from the very tippy top to the very bitty bottom. Yeah.
[02:40:55] Rich Chelson:
But you say again, that's on Viking.
[02:40:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, Viking's the most expensive cruise liner out there.
[02:41:03] Rich Chelson:
And, see, that's the thing. I didn't know I didn't know any of the big names, you know, like, you know, because Viking's a big cruise name. You know? I didn't I didn't think they, you know, did a miss you know, Mississippi cruise. I I didn't think they would be, bothered
[02:41:25] Duuude-Ron :
with the small crews like that, you know. Yeah. Because they they run a lot of riverboats in, Germany, the Rhine River into Switzerland, all that kind of stuff.
[02:41:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. But I didn't think they would come over here.
[02:41:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I guess we, have been informed now. Yeah.
[02:41:51] Bryan Goodwin:
And now we Informed differently now. Half the battle. Yeah. Joe. That's right. Yeah.
[02:41:58] Duuude-Ron :
Joe. Exactly.
[02:42:00] Rich Chelson:
Now say in say in that's the now I ain't got none. There ain't no way I got $12,000.
[02:42:07] Duuude-Ron :
No.
[02:42:08] Rich Chelson:
You know, if I had $12,000 to kill, I would I would love to, take a a run like that. That would be so cool.
[02:42:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:42:22] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[02:42:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's one of those debates. If I had $12,000, let's see a river run, run the Appalachian Trail. Yeah. That's definitely one of those.
[02:42:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, dude, think about it. It wouldn't cost you no $12,000 to to drive the Appalachian Trail, Not even near it.
[02:42:52] Duuude-Ron :
Well, gas, hotel, souvenirs. You know?
[02:42:57] Rich Chelson:
Okay. At the most, $2,000.
[02:43:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:43:02] Rich Chelson:
I mean, seriously, at the most. I mean, you you know, it it it you see, that's the thing. Running and and I had learned this myself. It it doesn't really cost that much to, you know, do things.
[02:43:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:43:23] Rich Chelson:
You know, once you break it down, it doesn't, you know, it's like, wow. I'm like, really? Is it that fucking cheap? Yeah. It is. Ugh. It's just it's just our it's it's just our thoughts on it is what is what makes us not not do that.
[02:43:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Just what? Limits us. Yeah.
[02:43:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So that's why I'm like I'm like, yeah. That's yeah. I hate to say it, but, yeah, that that, that trip on Viking from Saint Paul to New Orleans, takes 15 days. And, yeah, they want 12, $13,000. Yeah. So and Viking wants 55100 to go from New Orleans to Memphis, 12 days. Dang. I could drive Nollins to Memphis in about 5 hours. 6, maybe.
[02:44:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[02:44:36] Duuude-Ron :
So is that up and back on that one or is it just one way?
[02:44:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, 12 days on, I because it's not that far. I I think that'd be up and back. Probably. So hang on. Let me look. Because, yeah, New Orleans to Memphis isn't far, man.
[02:45:05] Duuude-Ron :
But you also gotta remember, traveling on the road doing 75 versus traveling down the river doing
[02:45:13] Bryan Goodwin:
25.
[02:45:15] Rich Chelson:
If if that.
[02:45:17] Duuude-Ron :
If that. If you're lucky.
[02:45:19] Rich Chelson:
Right?
[02:45:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:45:23] Rich Chelson:
See, I don't you see, that's the thing. I don't know. Oh, wait. Here it is. Okay. It says, yeah. You start in Nollins, Louisiana. It no. They take 12 days to go to Memphis, Tennessee.
[02:45:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh.
[02:45:43] Rich Chelson:
Literally. Nollins. Nollins. Nollins. Darrow, Louisiana. Baton Rouge, Saint Francisville, Natchez, Mississippi, Vicksburg, Mississippi, Greenville, Rosedale, Mississippi, Memphis, Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee. So they take 12 days to go one way.
[02:46:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Because they're gonna dock in a big hurry then, are they?
[02:46:08] Rich Chelson:
Damn. Because they're 25.
[02:46:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, they're gonna they're gonna dock every night.
[02:46:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. Yeah. They can't run on the river at night. Yep. Yeah. You know? Not the Mississippi, but still, that's I mean, but that one there is 54100.
[02:46:34] Duuude-Ron :
Wow.
[02:46:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:46:38] Duuude-Ron :
But Well, alrighty then.
[02:46:41] Rich Chelson:
Hey. Something to shoot for, dude. Goals, man. Goals. Yep. Something to shoot for.
[02:46:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when I win the lottery this weekend, I'll, we'll take that trip.
[02:46:53] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Okay. I'll be holding you to it.
[02:46:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I trust me. If I will if I won a lottery, we you and I would be, yeah, we'd hit a couple places.
[02:47:06] Rich Chelson:
Dude, that would be fucking cool. Riding on a riverboat? Oh my god. That would be and riding up to Mysip? Oh, shit, dude. That's just oh, man. That would be awesome.
[02:47:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Or better yet, winning the lottery, say it's 500,000 after everything. Okay. $200,000. Yeah. I'd charter a fucking paddle boat.
[02:47:41] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool.
[02:47:42] Duuude-Ron :
You and me have the whole damn fucking paddle boat all to ourselves.
[02:47:49] Rich Chelson:
Who's driving? Me or you?
[02:47:52] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I think I think the owner of the paddle boat would want to have their own pilot.
[02:48:00] Rich Chelson:
Dang it. I was trying. Dang it.
[02:48:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, hey, that would definitely be, you know, that would be a blast.
[02:48:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It would. Yes. It would.
[02:48:17] Duuude-Ron :
And then as soon as we get done with that, we fucking head over to the Appalachian Trail.
[02:48:22] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool. Yep. That would be freaking cool.
[02:48:28] Duuude-Ron :
In the summertime. Yes. Because I ain't I ain't fucking hitting that northern aspect up there in the fucking, you know, Massachusetts and Vermont and all that shit in the wintertime. No fucking way.
[02:48:43] Rich Chelson:
That would not be conducive to my my my comfort level.
[02:48:49] Duuude-Ron :
No. Hell no. Too fucking cold. Yeah. Too much fucking snow on the ground. Fuck that.
[02:48:57] Rich Chelson:
Besides, if I went up there in the wintertime, Dusty would be on my ass to be at Barn the next year. He'd be like, motherfucker, if you can go up there in the cold, you can come up to Des Moines to be able to watch me race.
[02:49:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. Oh, I know. Yeah. I ain't doing it in the wintertime because it's too fucking cold. Yeah. He's still to the degree. Come up and watch him race. Oh, I know he does. Yeah. And what'd you tell him?
[02:49:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Fuck no.
[02:49:28] Duuude-Ron :
Not just not just hell no, but hell to the fuck no.
[02:49:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. He just sent me a picture. He just sent me a picture of of snow up there that it just snowed a couple inches up there, and I just in all caps, oh, hell no. I told him I'll hell no. That was all I said. Screw that. Up in Iowa. Is the airport? Up. Yeah. No. That is not Thank you. Conducive to my to my health. Ew. It is not.
[02:50:06] Duuude-Ron :
Nope.
[02:50:09] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. He would love it. I know he would, but and he'll keep asking me too because this next week, like like, when it's 31 down here next week, it's supposed to be, like, freaking blow 0 up there. And he's still like, oh, come on. It's not that bad. No, dude. Kiss my ass, man. Supposed to snow 4 inches next week. Yeah. No. In barns next weekend. So it's the 8th or 10th to 12th, I think. 10th and 11th.
[02:50:48] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:50:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shit. Friday Saturday. Yeah. It's not this weekend. It's next weekend. Next weekend. Alright. Next weekend. Yep.
[02:51:00] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, yeah. I'm sure you'll make it. I'm sure you'll make it. Make it. What the fuck? Soon that
[02:51:12] Bryan Goodwin:
eventually one day in the near future in the distant past.
[02:51:18] Rich Chelson:
No. Cause they run barn in January. Oh, wow. These are idiots out Eventually, you'll run into a barn.
[02:51:28] Bryan Goodwin:
You run through a barn, you'll fly through a barn.
[02:51:32] Rich Chelson:
No. It's it's a battle of the barn. It's it's it's a big go kart race. Yeah. Yeah. It's your Yeah. The go kart your your nephew likes to run. Yeah. And and and everything don't. Why they choose It's Ellen.
[02:51:46] Bryan Goodwin:
January. I don't know. No. It's Because it's too damn cold to be outside.
[02:51:51] Rich Chelson:
It's too damn cold in that building, dude. There's no there's no real heat in that building. And then you You need to get more people in there. You get enough people in there, it'll be nice and toasty. Well, if you could. Yeah.
[02:52:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Just tell him you Most people are going, fuck no. It's goddamn cold. I'm not going in there.
[02:52:09] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Oh, bitch. Yeah. 15 minutes ago. Going to. Tell him that you're gonna disincline to acquiesce his request.
[02:52:21] Rich Chelson:
That'll really blow his mind. He'll be like, what the fuck you talking about?
[02:52:27] Duuude-Ron :
We're but humble pirates. Well, I will disincline to ask we ask your request. That means no.
[02:52:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. But but, yeah, he'd be like, what the hell did you say?
[02:52:42] Duuude-Ron :
You you really should do it. If he, you know, bugs you another time, you should really respond with that and see what his response is to that statement.
[02:52:56] Rich Chelson:
I will. If I think of it, I definitely will. Alright. Definitely will because, yeah, that would hey. He might get it, but I kinda doubt it. But it would be it would be so funny.
[02:53:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, if you ain't seen Pirates of the Caribbean, you would have no clue.
[02:53:17] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:53:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I disinclined to ask we ask your request.
[02:53:28] Rich Chelson:
That would be awesome. Alright.
[02:53:29] Duuude-Ron :
I think it's that time there, Brian.
[02:53:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Because I was thinking the same thing, but I would y'all were y'all were having such a good time talking, and I was having such a good time just coming up with stupid shit. So I was just keep going. So
[02:53:44] Rich Chelson:
That's what we do, man.
[02:53:46] Bryan Goodwin:
So but anyhow, alright, guys. I wanna say thank y'all very much for taking the time to listen to us. Listen to us just go on about just stupid shit. And, it's been a good time. We had a great time. We had a little bit of a break there because Christmas and and all that, and it is just we we had we had a a much needed break so that we could actually get ourselves back together. Things are fixing to change. We're fixing to have some, has, try some other stuff, see what, what we can morph and and and change and flip and flop and do anything else we possibly can to see if we can liven the show up just a little bit more. But, wanna say, guys, all of y'all who are listening, thanks so much for taking the time out of your busy day. Listening, seeing what we what we're doing, taking the, the information that we have, and just going, there's nothing I could do with this.
Because we're just as a whole, us 3 guys, we get together just so we could talk, just so we could spend time with each other and live our life intentionally with each other for a couple 3 hours each week. And this is a lot of the a lot of the things that us men need more of. This is something that we need on a very regular basis. And, yeah, we're don't you don't have to have a specific point to be talking. Now it helps if you can have a specific talk topic that you're aiming for. So you you and your friends are all, say, trying to build a better business.
Then all 3 of y'all can, help each other get better at y'all's businesses. Or you can just do like what we do and just live life in a in a for for moment where you're all in each other's, own circle of awareness. And this makes the life of each man just a little bit better, believe it or not. It's just it it allows for us to have a better life, a better time of being able to just live our our life. And so this is why this is one reason why I I stress men need to beat, with other men on a on a on a set schedule. So with that, I wanna say again one more time. We're gonna say thank you because this show is done and is produced. And the only thing we ask for is if you found any value from what we've done, then repay the value.
And this is called value for value. If we provided any value, then you can you can provide you can bring value back, and we can do that in 3 different ways. There's time. You can find ways of being able to provide some time and help us out. Talent, if you're have a specific talent like in graphics or audio design or anything like that, we'd love to have you help us out there or treasure. And this is where you can actually and any of the, podcasting 2.0 apps out there, they have a the ability to to utilize the funding tag. And with that, you can actually click the, the funding tag, the button that says support this show, and Podcast Guru, and, and I believe Fountain has got it.
But there's several other apps out there that allow you to be able to click on this, and that will bring up the, the PayPal's page, and you can actually donate, you know, a dollar, $5, a $100, a $1,000. Whatever it is you think you what type of value you have found, you can actually provide return that value to us. So you can do time, talent, or treasure. And all of them are are valid means of being able to support this show because we're right now, we're shelling out our money for this because, 1, we wanna be able to help each of our, each of our, each of these guys to have a better day. And I'm just my brain's dying on me, so I'm struggling with my words all of a sudden.
So it's it's end of the appear it's end of the day the day for me, and it is time for me to to hit the proverbial, hey. But, so yeah. My my brain is wanting to, say it's bedtime. Let's go to bed. So, guys, wanna say thank you. If there's anything that you found in this show that you liked, found funny, entertaining, laugh, cry, think, groan, whatever, share it out. Share it all on Facebook, Twitter, x, Mastodon, Blue Sky, whatever whatever app you like to use as your social media, share that with them. Let, let other people know that, 2 grumpy vets and a dude is a is a show out there that's just a little different than everything else. It is the quintessential 3 guys and one brain type of show. And so we're we're joining it ourselves. We have a good time. We laugh. We cry. We think we've grown.
We we have disagreements, and then we get, we get back together, and we keep going. And so with that, I wanna say thanks one more time for for everybody listening. And, Rich, what do you have to say?
[02:59:36] Rich Chelson:
Well, I'm I'm very glad we made it to, 2025, all 3 of us. Oh, yeah. And and that and that we all can sit here and do this and just and just be us, you know, just be men like you said, you know, and, you know, having having something to talk about and then squirreling off. And, honestly, it's the most fun for me. But I wanna thank everybody else for, listening. And, we couldn't do it without you, really. Because if we had no one listening, then, we'd just be hearing, you know, talking to hear some talk.
[03:00:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. What's the point?
[03:00:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, you know, I mean, we'd still probably do it anyway just because that's who we are, but it's all good. Anyway, just, I I can't wait till we hit our year, which will be phenomenal. That'll be that'll be totally awesome. And, you know, I enjoy I enjoy both of you. And, yeah, Brian, like you said, sometimes we get, you know, upset with each other, but we just keep going and, you know, we learn to work through it. And that's what we want other men, other people to realize. It's okay to get upset. It's okay to have disagreements. It's okay Just as long as you don't stay mad.
Right. Get over it and come back together and, you know, and, you know, stay friends. You you don't have to because Brian called me a poopy head. I don't ever wanna talk to him again. You know? I mean, come on. So but, no, that's you know, thank you for listening and help in any way you can if you want. One way, you can share it out. Share this out. Tell your friends, family, whatever, shoot someone you hate. Tell them to listen to our show, you know. You never know. They might wind up being your friend, but, you know, if y'all ever wanna send us a message, we haven't had it happen yet, but you can send me an email at rich@[email protected].
Or you can send Brian an email at, re, oh, yeah, circlecast@[email protected]. And then if you wanna send the dude an email, just send it to Brian or I, and we will make sure the dude gets it. And then we we will let him answer it in his in his flowery way of of his word selection. So so yeah. Anyway, yeah. Thank you all for listening. We enjoy doing this. We plan to keep going. So come back and listen and drop a line and say hey once in a while. So, dude, what you got, man?
[03:02:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what? Both of you guys have pretty well covered everything of what I was gonna say. So, I will end this with, I hope that everybody has a very happy New Year, and now is the start of 2025. And, you know, a lot of us, in 2024 going through a lot of issues. You know, some worse than others, but, you know, hopefully, this is a start of a brand new year, and maybe I'll be able to get some of my, New Year's. I haven't done any New Year's resolutions as of yet, but, you know, hey. It's only the 2nd day of, the new year. So but, again, everybody, thank you very much for enjoying us just as Rich said, squirreling around because, yeah, we we we can squirrel up some shit. That's for damn sure. With this with this group of guys, man, we can squirrel up some shit. So, again, thank you very much for, listening, and, happy New Year.
[03:03:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Happy New Year to everybody. Alright, guys. Y'all take care. We will catch y'all next week. Rich, dude, y'all take care. Y'all have a great rest of the week to also and we will see y'all come next Thursday till then. Bye.
[03:04:12] Rich Chelson:
Later.
[03:04:13] Duuude-Ron :
Good night.
[03:04:15] Rich Chelson:
Later. Thanks guys. Bye.
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thought together to show folks that living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude. I'm on my way down. What the hell?
[00:00:36] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. What the hell, dude? The hell? Are you at home?
[00:00:42] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. I'm out at in the truck.
[00:00:44] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. It just it just sounded like you was in a house.
[00:00:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's because I it's actually cold enough. I can turn the truck off and and not have air blowing on me all all the time. So
[00:00:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Okay. Either way. Yeah. You're right. It's too cold. I've got to heat a run.
[00:01:07] Bryan Goodwin:
First time you're walking around going, what's burning? Oh, yeah. It's
[00:01:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. The bad thing is is is, I do believe, that I'm gonna have to add some insulation into my roof sometime in 2025. Oh, really? When I turn my furnace on, I spend $7.17 a day, and that's with the thermostat set at 70.
[00:01:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright.
[00:01:39] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's fucking expensive.
[00:01:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Could be worse. We had when we ran ours, 1st year that we had our moved into our house before we just said say fuck the damn, heater. Our first, our first gas bill that we got well, actually, the first 4 months of our gas bill that we had until it finally got warm enough, and we were like we tried to pay it off and just couldn't, so we just said, screw it. We ended up getting $600, a month pay gas bills.
[00:02:12] Rich Chelson:
Oh god. Dang. Yeah. Oh, that's
[00:02:15] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm I'm not alone when I say my house has the r factor of a damn sieve.
[00:02:23] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And I thought I thought 225 was high. No. Yeah. No. No.
[00:02:29] Bryan Goodwin:
There I couldn't afford 600, dude. We couldn't either. That's why we don't have natural gas anymore. And I love cooking with natural gas, but Oh, yeah. It's great. But couldn't do it. It was just No. So just about anyhow, so, yeah, I, it it's kinda nice. I ended up getting we'll be able to do, we'll do be able to do, clips next week.
[00:03:00] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean?
[00:03:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, because what I'm because what's actually holding me back from being able to do it right now is I don't have a, I don't have an aux cord.
[00:03:11] Duuude-Ron :
I thought you had one.
[00:03:14] Rich Chelson:
I thought you had one.
[00:03:15] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. I hadn't had it aux auxiliary cable in in, in a in a while because I've the trucks that I've, that I've had so far has all had Bluetooth that works. Oh, okay. So it's been a good almost 2 years that I've been without an aux cord.
[00:03:37] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But, what,
[00:03:43] Duuude-Ron :
what's the aux cord
[00:03:46] Rich Chelson:
for?
[00:03:47] Bryan Goodwin:
So I connect to my laptop.
[00:03:51] Rich Chelson:
Oh, from your p 4?
[00:03:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[00:03:55] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. So
[00:03:58] Bryan Goodwin:
oh, alright. Let's see here. Let me get my ear pods in or earbuds in or whatever you wanna call them. There we go. Now I can hear everybody.
[00:04:07] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. God. I chose them. I chose poorly.
[00:04:11] Rich Chelson:
You chose poorly?
[00:04:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Forgot. You don't plug into the first one because for whatever reason, I think I've got a I've got a, preamp that's trying to go bad on it. So I'm getting a getting a buzz. But it could also be the fact that I'm setting it on just, on a mini fridge. So it could be that too. So
[00:04:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It could be the electric because that's, when you plug your headphones in?
[00:04:41] Bryan Goodwin:
No. That's when, and if I plug, anything into, into port 1, the microphone. So once it whenever I hit mute on on there, it all, it all just goes, it all glow, quiets down. So
[00:04:59] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Have you tried, that's on the XLR cables. Right?
[00:05:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:05:07] Rich Chelson:
1?
[00:05:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Have you tried number 2 or the others? Oh, yeah. No. I'm on, the most of the stuff I do is on on port 2. So on mine too, or Mike too, or Yeah. Or number 2 or or whatever you wanna call it.
[00:05:21] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Alright. Well So well, yeah, it sounds like your first port is wore out.
[00:05:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's since 2020?
[00:05:37] Rich Chelson:
I was gonna say, yeah. It's yeah. You've
[00:05:40] Bryan Goodwin:
you've had that before. Actually, no. It's been longer than that because it was, back in 2019 because that's whenever I started up the, the podcast.
[00:05:49] Rich Chelson:
So Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. So yeah. Yeah. That was 29. Dang, So
[00:05:58] Bryan Goodwin:
granted it was at the end of 2019, but this 2019 nonetheless. So but yeah. Yeah. God bless my son, and damn it, my son has gone off. He's got, way too much money.
[00:06:12] Rich Chelson:
What's he doing now? Is he is he still doing his,
[00:06:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, he's still doing locksmithing. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know he was doing that, but no. Oh, yeah. He's doing locksmithing, and, and he's trying he's working, a a disc golf business. It's over, he's got a, disc golf, bomb city discs.com.
[00:06:34] Rich Chelson:
Okay. And so he Yeah. That's that's what I was asking about. He's still doing So, yeah, he's still trying to do the the the, disc golf,
[00:06:42] Bryan Goodwin:
business and stuff. And he's gotten some people who started started finding him, started buying discs and stuff like that. So That's good. But, but, yeah, he's, he went all out this, this Christmas. And granted, I'm grateful, but at the same time, damn it, son. Hold on to your money. Right. So I'm grateful because, I mean, now he got me a MacBook Pro. So Holy
[00:07:11] Rich Chelson:
check. Yeah. That gone, dude. Look at you stepping up into
[00:07:17] Bryan Goodwin:
wow. So now I can actually, like I said, I can I can, we'll be able to do stuff because this has actually even got it's got a a an 8 inch, jack? What? So so, yeah, it's still Oh my goodness. That's cool. Yeah. It is. I I think so. It's got a looks like, got an HDMI port, a, and, and couple USB c's and yeah. She's a Nice. She's a rocking she's a rocking little girl, and I kinda enjoy the hell out of her.
[00:07:53] Rich Chelson:
I would enjoy every second of it, dude. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah.
[00:07:59] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah. And this week, hopefully, I can get over to, find a, find a decent, computer bag that I can put it in. So so I can and so having to carry it around in my duffle bag. So Yeah. Probably duffle bag is probably better, but at the same time, I like to be able to Yeah. If I need to just travel with it, I and not this duffle bag, I would like to be able to do that.
[00:08:23] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. What size is it? 156?
[00:08:30] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't I don't know what size is this. Let's see here. That's a respectable size. I know that. I can see pretty, I can see stuff with my glasses on.
[00:08:41] Duuude-Ron :
Let's see here. See if it tells me.
[00:08:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Do you know? There we go.
[00:08:52] Rich Chelson:
About.
[00:08:54] Bryan Goodwin:
The boot, C Mac Pro. It's got the Apple M4 Chip. Yeah. 14 inch.
[00:09:06] Rich Chelson:
14? Okay. Yeah. That's not bad. I mean Built in liquid retina. Sweet. Sweet. Yeah. That's like that's like my laptop. Well, the newest one I bought, yeah, has that OLED. It's a 15. Oh, okay. 15 inch. So and, I mean, honestly, I like it because, the screen, oh my god, when I watch a video, especially in, OLED video.
[00:09:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh.
[00:09:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. The colors are just, yeah, beyond beyond anything you can even think about. You know? Yeah. Watch a video of, 4 k OLED or, you know, retina. Oh, yeah. And, man, you'll you'll be like, wow. That's cool.
[00:09:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Absolutely. Now the other the other thing I really need to do on here is I'm I need to, once I get, need to go ahead and buy get a, add a a mobile hotspot to, to the plan. So
[00:10:15] Rich Chelson:
Use your phone? And
[00:10:17] Bryan Goodwin:
That way I can actually connect to the Internet through the phone or through the, on the computer and
[00:10:23] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Use your phone.
[00:10:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And be able to use my phone. So
[00:10:28] Rich Chelson:
No. You can use your phone as a hotspot, can't you? Yeah. But I have to pay for it.
[00:10:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, it's not included in your plan? No. No. No. No. Oh, dude. Dude. I had I had one, but I needed to try to I needed to try to find the cheaper, bring down the the, the cost, because we were paying damn near $400 for, for, for 4 phones. So
[00:10:56] Rich Chelson:
Holy crap.
[00:10:58] Bryan Goodwin:
So now we only pay 310.
[00:11:02] Rich Chelson:
And is that for 4 phones? Four phones still. Yeah. Damn.
[00:11:06] Bryan Goodwin:
So we shaved all all nearly, nearly a $100 off.
[00:11:12] Rich Chelson:
So Yeah. I don't I don't know about all that. I do one phone. So that's it. I do one phone. And I said I pay 134 for it.
[00:11:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I was trying to remind what a 100 and some gigs
[00:11:33] Rich Chelson:
of freaking data that I don't use, but I have it if I need it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You might find yourself out in the middle of nowhere. Maybe, maybe not. Nowadays, I don't know. That's that's actually a tall slip now. Year 4 last? Yeah. I definitely could've told you. I'd I'd found, yeah, myself out in the middle of nowhere, but not so much anymore.
[00:12:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Namaste anymore,
[00:12:04] Rich Chelson:
Not so much. But it's still possible. It's always possible. Dude, why are you being so quiet? What the fuck?
[00:12:11] Duuude-Ron :
Because y'all are talking. Okay. Damn. I know I'm an asshole and all, but I'm not I'm not rude. No. Scratch that. So before I forget all of this that I have realized for this wonderful second day of 2025, did you see the fucking clip of that Cybertruck?
[00:12:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh god, man. What is the hell is going on? Just just just fucking exploded. Well, yeah, that was the exact same day day and about the same time almost about the same time as when, when that, other dude, went In New Orleans. Going through, through Bourbon Street.
[00:13:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Now it Now it's with ISIS flag and shit. Yeah. Now it's 15 dead. It was 10. Now it's 15.
[00:13:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And 30, 3 or however many were injured? Yeah.
[00:13:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I can't remember what they said were injured. Yeah. It was, like, 30 or 40, but now the the death toll is up to 15. And that was a, I don't know if he was active duty or a veteran
[00:13:27] Bryan Goodwin:
from Fort Bragg. Both of them. Both of them were apparently, they were they both were at the same, same military base in Fort Bragg and Oh, there was 2? The yeah. The guy at, at that blew up in front of Trump Tower was was special forces.
[00:13:50] Duuude-Ron :
I hadn't heard about that one.
[00:13:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I don't know what his name is, but I it it it it's, it's a closer he the one in, at Trump Tower was, was closer to an American name than, than, than, New Orleans dude was.
[00:14:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. He was. The dude that hit Trump tires, he was a US army veteran, Matthew Lybelsberger.
[00:14:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Lybelsberger.
[00:14:21] Rich Chelson:
Of Colorado Springs, Colorado.
[00:14:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's that was the one in Vegas. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, I didn't know where that was in front of Trump Towers. They just showed the explosion of the truck, but damn. And here's here's another one of these freaking cyber trucks. Going down the road, it I found out that it was a fire suppression company. I don't remember the name of the company, but the company was on the top. And then, like, a 3 foot word on the side, like, fire trucks that had fire, and then real small letters up underneath of it, suppression. And they're painted fucking red, like a fucking fire truck.
I'm like, seriously? I just think it looks fucking stupid as hell, but, you know, that's just me because I don't like cyber trucks. I can't stand.
[00:15:26] Bryan Goodwin:
No. And they're they're as ugly as saying. I will give you that for sure.
[00:15:31] Duuude-Ron :
They are the who the fuck would I don't know why anybody would buy one of those. But you know what? If you have the money and you wanna fucking buy a Cybertruck, knock yourself out. I would never own a power power owned vehicle ever in my life.
[00:15:50] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I would I'm not about to have an electric vehicle at all myself.
[00:15:54] Duuude-Ron :
So So and then also on the same route, and there was a new route going from because I had a double today, and it's one that I haven't driven before. And I got to drive by a u r the funniest road. Yeah. It brings me back to my childhood, Electric Avenue.
[00:16:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wow. Walked down Yep.
[00:16:25] Duuude-Ron :
Electric Avenue. Beep beep. Yep. Drove right by Electric Avenue. And then I drove by another road that resembled rich to a t.
[00:16:42] Rich Chelson:
What?
[00:16:43] Duuude-Ron :
Squirrel run.
[00:16:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, that's funny.
[00:16:52] Duuude-Ron :
So those were my 4 things that I wanted to get off my chest before I forgot. Because I sure to hell would have forgotten them here in about an hour or so. But, yeah, that squirrel run, I just like, damn. I wonder if Rich was over there on that road. So yeah. So now I'm done talking. I'll be quiet now. Well Yeah. Now they're Go ahead. Go ahead. No. Go ahead. Yeah. They're just now I'm watching the TV and that the whole the only thing left of that, they just did a real quick blip it of that one Cybertruck in Las Vegas. The side panels, like, the wheel wells in the front and the back, on both sides, that's the only thing that's left. Oh, yeah. It's like a freaking shell.
[00:17:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But that goes to show that cyber trucks are not good for, improvised explosive devices because you see what direction the the blowout happened. It all Well, it mainly went up. Yeah. Yeah. The the the the glass in front of the Trump Tower there in in Las Vegas, none of the windows none of the glass there is disturbed. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm not gonna get into my just gonna show Biden just didn't do shit.
[00:18:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well
[00:18:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Well,
[00:18:42] Rich Chelson:
okay. Got lost.
[00:18:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, first off, if you're if you're a, if you've listened to, no agenda, they're always talking about the 6 week cycle.
[00:18:57] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:18:58] Bryan Goodwin:
So they had 2 guys that were a part of the 6 week cycle. The 6 week cycle is, is
[00:19:06] Duuude-Ron :
CIA.
[00:19:08] Bryan Goodwin:
That's how they get their it's technically how, suppose or well, according to what, what a lot of people think, that's how they the 6 week cycle is how the CIA gets a lot of their funding. And what they do is they draw in, they'll draw in some guy who is, who might, who can, who's mentally unstable enough that they can, get them all spin spun up so they he will go off and, and, try to do some type of act of terror so they can come in real quick and stop it. Because they can get it stopped to show that it's, that it is done. Thanks to, that it's, they're stopping some type of form of especially international terror.
They get, they get extra, they get extra money.
[00:20:06] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:20:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So and the fact that, that the we've had more attacks on Trump centered stuff this past year, more than anything, just goes to show that, what I what I was talking about on Biden not doing anything has, is, is showing due to the fact that they know Trump is, that the, mainstream media has put Trump as a target And wants their loonies to go after the, go after after Donald J Trump. And Biden hasn't done anything about it to, to stop it. And the fact that, one, also that or 2, also that, the CIA is supposed to be the one who, is able to catch these guys and to get them to and be able to, to and to keep them from from doing their, you know, to to turn turn off the the whole incentive of doing the 6 week cycle is is just, as well as frankly, it's kinda sad, really, that they're still they're going going on, and no one is still actually voicing the fact that, That's right. Yeah. We've got we've got homegrown terror, and it's because of the CIA and the FBI.
[00:21:59] Rich Chelson:
Well, hold it. Hold it. We've had homegrown terror for since time began, since America was founded.
[00:22:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Depends on what you also define as terror. New. I said, also define it depends on what you're defining as, as terror too. So
[00:22:18] Rich Chelson:
Anything against Americans and and, what we stand for. I mean, we it's it's it's been going, I mean I mean, it's been going since the 1800. Okay. Because one side is upset at the other side for whatever fucking reason, you know, take take the, unions. Take Hoffa. You know, he pissed off a lot of people. The unions backed him. Okay. And, you know, take the mobs, the Irish mob, the, Italian mob. You know, take prohibition. Okay. Let's let's move into the, 20th century. You know, take, prohibition. Oh, that raised a lot of terror, actually. It wasn't classified as terror, but it's on the same level.
[00:23:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But it wasn't classified as terror because it was just listed as crime.
[00:23:19] Rich Chelson:
Right. So but but the thing is, what what does what's the difference from today? Because they were blowing shit up in the 1900. They was lighting shit on fire in the 1900, the early 1900. So what has made it what about the race riots in the fifties sixties? The, segregation problems. It it it was all the same thing. You know, what about the riots, you know, with the, freaking Democrats a few years back? Or, well, I won't say Democrats and mainly Liberals, you know, from Democrats.
[00:23:59] Duuude-Ron :
Fucking Democrats. Thank you.
[00:24:01] Rich Chelson:
But Detroit, you know, Portland, and all like that. I mean, how is that any different from what it was in the 1900? I mean, so so that's the thing. See, this is the way I think. I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to force my opinion on anybody. I'm just saying this is along the same lines. We've been doing this for so long, but now what? What? Because we, reclassify and make the word terror that that it's it's it's supposed to mean more? I don't think so, but that's just me.
[00:24:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. See here. Looking to see if I could find that, The the deal about the 6 week, 6 weeks course. I Or not course, but, the 6 week cycle.
[00:25:06] Rich Chelson:
Right. But okay. Course cycle, whichever word you wanna use, it doesn't matter, but think about it. You know, they're just trying to basically find something that might or might not be there, And then jump on and say, oh, we did this and, you know, freaking beat their chest like a freaking orangutan saying, oh, look at me. You know, I'm mad. Oh. Oh. And then she.
[00:25:37] Duuude-Ron :
No shit. Yeah. So, like, you know, who fucking cares? You know, here's here's the thing. Go do your fucking job and you don't have to fucking advertise shit. Right. Oh, me did me did good job. Who gives a flying fuck? Right. Live your truth. The thing. Just do your fucking job.
[00:26:03] Rich Chelson:
Live your truth. Whatever truth you think that is, whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent to everybody else, live your fucking truth. And if you live your truth and let me live my truth, then, hey, we all we happy. We good. But you see, starting all this shit is what is what causes this, and it it it just keeps everybody on edge and fighting each other. This is why motherfuckers get sick and get old before their time. Because they all worry about, oh my god. What's the government gonna do? Who gives a fuck? They're gonna take your money at tax time. That's what they're gonna do.
[00:26:40] Duuude-Ron :
And there ain't a damn thing you gonna fucking be the individual is gonna be able to do, ever. Thank you. Thank you. I'm just saying. I can I can whine, bitch, and complain about taxes and all that stuff? It ain't gonna fucking change. Right. Right. No. Oh. Because the the point 1% will always own 90%.
[00:27:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's
[00:27:07] Duuude-Ron :
And be in control of 90%. Right. Not not of the people, but of the money.
[00:27:16] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. Speaking of taxes, though, I had a very good day. A very good day today. My What did you did? My January 2nd of 2025, 2nd day of 2025 was freaking awesome.
[00:27:35] Bryan Goodwin:
I got So what did you do?
[00:27:37] Rich Chelson:
Well, I went down to the assessor's office. And and I, went down there, took my paperwork, and Cool. Like this, showed him that, showed him that I just bought the house and everything like that. And, Yeah. I don't have to pay property taxes ever again.
[00:28:00] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll let you go.
[00:28:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was really happy about that. Yep. I was like, yes. That was good.
[00:28:09] Duuude-Ron :
So So whatever that amount is coming out or supposedly coming out of your escrow, yeah, it won't be obviously coming out. But, again, if you're making, you know, if you already have an allotment for your house payment, that's just gonna go towards your principal.
[00:28:27] Rich Chelson:
Yes. It is. Absolutely. Yes. It is. And I'm gonna do it every year until until this house is paid off because that'll that'll really, see. What is it? I read I read somewhere if you if you pay an extra $100 a month on your house payment in 1 year, I think you can knock off 7.
[00:28:55] Duuude-Ron :
Well, well, from what I've heard, if you pay a $100 and depends on what you finance as well. Roughly, if you pay a $100 a month more than what is asked, you'll go from basically 30 years to 25 years over the course of the loan.
[00:29:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, you see, the thing is though on that on that extra money I found out, you have to ask them to put it on the principal. You just you can pay the extra $100 on on, you know, a month. But if you don't ask them to put it on the principal, they won't. And it won't end up Nope. It'll be applied to the interest. Right. So so so so if so when you make your payment, if you wanna make more than your house payment, you need to go on your lender's website, sign in, and say, I want this money, this extra money to go to the principal. And Yeah. That's the thing right there. It'll, yeah, it'll drop it.
You know? So it's like, hell, yeah.
[00:30:00] Duuude-Ron :
So you have to go in every month to do that or is that just part of what you have set up?
[00:30:05] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. No. No. Well, this year well, here soon, they're gonna pay the 2024 taxes. Okay? Because there was a tax bill in 2024. Okay? So that's gonna be taken out of my escrow. And then going forward, I'm just gonna keep making my same payments. And then at the end of or at the start of 2026, I'll tell them to take, you know, that, what, 12 or $1300, whatever it is. And I've got a piece of paper to send them, and I'll tell them to take that 12, $1300 and just apply it to my principal.
[00:30:54] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:30:56] Rich Chelson:
And then, yeah, do it once a year, and that'll just that'll just drop time off.
[00:31:03] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. Oh, okay. Gotcha. So roughly, you'll go from 30 years to roughly 25 years before you have it paid off?
[00:31:16] Rich Chelson:
Well, I'll go farther than that because, you know, if I do that every year, I'm gonna be dropping years every year, extra years every year. So it is possible if you keep paying this at, like, a $100 a month times 12 is $1200 a year. If you pay $1200 a year extra against the principal, you could have a house paid off in like 15 or 16 years, almost half.
[00:31:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well, Rod Joe.
[00:31:53] Rich Chelson:
So I was like really, really happy today.
[00:31:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I can imagine. So is it still brisk down there in Mississippi?
[00:32:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's a little brisk. It's it's it's not terrible. Monday, next Monday is yeah. It's supposed to be, yeah, fucking free. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So far, it was actually nice today. It was in the sixties. Yep. Same here. And and everything. So and it's, Sunday is supposed to be 73. And then Monday, the high is 50 and a low of 31. I say It did. That that low temperature is is really getting to me. It really,
[00:32:45] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't, I don't wanna say that. Well, it could be worse. It could be up and, it could be up in, up Missouri.
[00:32:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Exact, exactly what I said last, what was it? I
[00:32:56] Bryan Goodwin:
made the same statement. 30 degrees may last what? 3 days?
[00:33:02] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I know. I know. But
[00:33:04] Duuude-Ron :
And that 30 degrees, and if you look up in Missouri and it's negative five, so you're already plus 37 degrees higher than what you were last year or the year before
[00:33:23] Bryan Goodwin:
or the year before that.
[00:33:26] Rich Chelson:
Oh, year before that, it was it was it was fucking cold then
[00:33:30] Bryan Goodwin:
too. Gotta remember that. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say there was and then just think the time when you used to have to tromp around in that weather.
[00:33:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. Oh, God. Yeah. I meant, yeah.
[00:33:42] Duuude-Ron :
And not only that.
[00:33:44] Rich Chelson:
Hold on. Yeah. I mean, I You
[00:33:46] Duuude-Ron :
don't have to tromp around in 12 inches of wide air.
[00:33:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, no, you're right. You're right.
[00:33:56] Duuude-Ron :
Hang on. Now it's fun. It's fun to go fucking put in a Jeep and 4 wheel drive and, you know, that kind of shit. That's fine.
[00:34:10] Rich Chelson:
What the hell? Why is being stupid. Let's see. It's 25 feels like 8 up at where I used to live in Mercer, Missouri right now. There you go.
[00:34:24] Bryan Goodwin:
That feel like is what is weekly.
[00:34:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So 8 and it's what right now in Mississippi?
[00:34:32] Rich Chelson:
It's 46 right now in Mississippi.
[00:34:35] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So there you go. There's a difference of 38 degrees plus.
[00:34:43] Rich Chelson:
I know. I know. Yeah. See. No. See. This is all no. No. I can't. No. I'm not gonna do these temperature.
[00:34:51] Duuude-Ron :
Just no. Okay. Then just stay your ass in the fucking house, in the heater, and just fucking play on your goddamn game. I pray Don't even go outside. You don't even have to worry about it. You you'll build yourself a little smoke, little smoke hole in a window to where you can sit in the house, blow smoke out the window. You don't even have to go outside.
[00:35:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I no. Right now, it's it's yeah. It's chilly, but it's not it's not that bad. You know? But yeah. Yeah. There's I'm I am so thankful I am not up north. So thankful. In fact in fact, my nephew, Dusty, sent me a picture of of freaking Des Moines. They had gotten a a a couple inches overnight.
[00:35:55] Duuude-Ron :
And I told him Well, you can you can keep that couple of fucking inches right up there in Des Moines. That's what I told him to. You get shit up there. No. Thank you. Oh, and I got that. About people in Mississippi, but the people in Texas, their fucking heads explode. Just you talk about just can't fucking deal with anything if we have flurries. Their fucking heads just you know, they go fucking nuts down here. They get fucking stupid out on the fucking roads, just on flurry. They ain't even fucking, you know, settled on the damn roads. It's just in the air.
These motherfuckers just cannot that that just they're shit. Yeah. Apart. Yeah. God dang.
[00:36:56] Rich Chelson:
No. I've heard I've heard down here the, a couple times that they've had a few snowflakes that yeah. They, yeah, they shut down and every no one moves. Every Yeah. That's place Yeah. Shuts down and no one fucking moves till it's gone. Yep. So yeah. So it's like, I don't know. I just it it's like, I just don't like the wintertime.
[00:37:27] Duuude-Ron :
Nope. Well, unless you're down in Australia. Oh, yeah. It's beautiful. Or New or New Zealand.
[00:37:36] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:37:38] Duuude-Ron :
They're fucking in the eighties and nineties. Right. Maybe the 100.
[00:37:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's summertime down there.
[00:37:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:37:48] Rich Chelson:
So
[00:37:51] Duuude-Ron :
You know, buy yourself a little shack down in New Zealand. Get yourself, you know, an old beater Jeep and, you know, fly down there for 6 months out of the year.
[00:38:06] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's a possibility.
[00:38:10] Duuude-Ron :
But I don't think they have a VA department in New Zealand.
[00:38:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Not a USVA, at least.
[00:38:20] Duuude-Ron :
Well Or you can always go to Guam.
[00:38:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, I could. Yeah. I got
[00:38:30] Duuude-Ron :
a naval base there.
[00:38:32] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. The Philippines still has the VA there.
[00:38:35] Duuude-Ron :
Really?
[00:38:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot there's a lot of a lot of squid squid leaves that, that go and retire down in, down in the Philippines. Oh, okay.
[00:38:51] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. There's yeah. There's there's a lot of military, ex military down down in Philippines.
[00:39:00] Duuude-Ron :
As long as I could take my as long as I could take my Jeep.
[00:39:04] Bryan Goodwin:
You can. Just a little bit a little bit of shipping fees, but, yeah, you could do it. A little bit of shipping fees. Oh, I'm a lot of time.
[00:39:16] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. But the only problem is I don't know if they would allow my Jeep not having fenders.
[00:39:24] Bryan Goodwin:
I bet you they wouldn't mind too terribly bad.
[00:39:27] Rich Chelson:
Dude, have you seen some of the vehicles down there?
[00:39:30] Duuude-Ron :
No. Probably don't have fenders.
[00:39:34] Rich Chelson:
They have they have many different, yeah, vehicles in all different, regards of, repair. So Gotcha.
[00:39:49] Duuude-Ron :
Or you could always be, like, over in Korea, the one eyed buffalo.
[00:39:55] Rich Chelson:
The one eyed buffalo?
[00:39:57] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't wanna know. The one eyed buffalo sounds dirty.
[00:40:00] Duuude-Ron :
Rich, you never saw a one eyed buffalo?
[00:40:05] Rich Chelson:
I don't.
[00:40:07] Duuude-Ron :
It was the tractors that the farmers had that had the single headlight. Oh, yeah. Okay.
[00:40:13] Rich Chelson:
Damn.
[00:40:14] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. That was a those were referred to as a one eyed buffalo.
[00:40:19] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:40:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I was gonna say, damn. If you never saw one of those while you're over in Korea, wow. You didn't go out too very much.
[00:40:32] Rich Chelson:
Nah. Shit. We was out in the field all the time.
[00:40:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, I know. Same here.
[00:40:42] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They I mean, they love the field out there.
[00:40:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And I remember one field problem. Those little,
[00:40:51] Bryan Goodwin:
those little, those damn, essentially, little little garden tractors that's, it's just a 2 wheel garden tractor, and it's connected to a damn, to a trailer.
[00:41:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:41:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I'm sitting here looking at them. I'm like, what?
[00:41:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it and it has a swivel in the center to steer. Swivel in the center. Yeah. Yep. Uh-huh. Yep. Those we refer to. Is what they're called. Yeah. Those were They were referred to as the one eyed buffalo. Yep. One eyed buffalo. Yep. Those are
[00:41:37] Bryan Goodwin:
run tiller and take the tines off and and and and away you go.
[00:41:42] Rich Chelson:
Pretty much. Yep. Yep. Pretty
[00:41:45] Duuude-Ron :
much.
[00:41:47] Rich Chelson:
And they ride in things all over the place.
[00:41:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. You'd see you'd see families. I mean, a whole bunch of people racked up on one of those.
[00:42:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. I bet it. Family family, security? What's that?
[00:42:09] Rich Chelson:
Shoot. Come on now. I mean, you know, you know, I've gotten to think about it. And and, you know, I know there's other countries like US that are close maybe not as strict, but close
[00:42:25] Bryan Goodwin:
to Oh, yeah. It's called Europe.
[00:42:27] Rich Chelson:
But but but, most of the other countries in the world, everything is is is is just given the natural selection. They don't worry about all the safety shit. You know, it's like yeah. You know, I mean, say you know, seriously, it's like the fucking over here, you know, the government thinks they know what everybody needs and, oh, you have to be safe. You have to do this, but go over to Yep. Oh, hell no. If you fall off, cut your ass out, bitch.
[00:43:04] Duuude-Ron :
Talk to the world, baby.
[00:43:05] Rich Chelson:
Run and catch up. You know? You know? It it's like it's like, what the hell? Yep. It's like it's like, just let us live like like they used to when they, you know, when when in the early days of cars, they said seatbelts, fuck a seatbel.
[00:43:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly.
[00:43:25] Duuude-Ron :
Same same way with brakes. Right. Like, there's GTOs and the Mustangs and the you know, all that shit. It's like it was all about speed. Fuck fuck stopping. Fuck the brakes. We don't need brakes.
[00:43:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. A lot of them
[00:43:42] Duuude-Ron :
just have rear brakes. 4 40. Yeah.
[00:43:45] Rich Chelson:
You know? Oh, yeah. No. And, you know, it just I don't know. I was, it was funny. On, January 1st, on New Year's Day, I jumped on my ham radio and, talked to an old boy from, New Mexico. And me and him had oh my god. We talked for, like, 20, 30 minutes. And come to find out this guy was was born in 1943 Nice. In Detroit, Michigan and was raised up in Detroit. I mean, he was in Detroit when it was a great time to be in Detroit. Yep. You know, when when when Ford, GM, and Chrysler was all in fucking Detroit competing to make the best car, to make the fastest car, the the the hot rod, to make the cars people wanted.
And, oh, man, I was just like I was I was like a little fanboy. I'm like, dude, I'm jealous, man. You know, because, yeah, if you look at Detroit today, it's it's yeah. It's a hole.
[00:44:56] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there's there is. Yeah. All those Victorian homes that were of the wealthy in Detroit, they're all freaking the only thing left standing is the fucking shell.
[00:45:12] Rich Chelson:
A lot of them. Yeah. Shoot. Shoot. For a while there, you could only you could buy houses for a dollar.
[00:45:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:45:21] Rich Chelson:
Literally, buy buy a house in Detroit for a dollar. Oh, yeah. But, yes, see and that's the thing. You know, we're sitting here talking about it, and he was he was explaining. I say, I think you wound up working for GM for 20 or 30 years too. And I I it was just it was just it was just cool to talk to him, you know, everything. He he lives in, New Mexico now, Rio Rancho, New Mexico, which which is a beautiful country in itself out there. It's gorgeous.
[00:45:52] Duuude-Ron :
You know? And why did and why did he come down south? He was tired of the fucking snow.
[00:45:59] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:46:01] Duuude-Ron :
Just like just like all the rest of us old fuckers are tired of the gun. It ain't no way in hell I would ever knew. No. Mm-mm. Nope. Right? Don't think so.
[00:46:13] Rich Chelson:
Oh, and and I've got a weird phone call today. Literally. It was about, oh, 4 o'clock, 3:30, 4 o'clock. My phone rings. Pull my phone out. He was my sister.
[00:46:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay.
[00:46:30] Rich Chelson:
And I was like, what's up, Dee? You know, thinking, okay. Something's wrong. What's up? Because you never called me. You know? Oh, so And, she's like, hey. We're coming down on 17th. Are you good with that? Well, yeah. She's like, okay. She's like, we're bringing the dogs. I said, so?
[00:46:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, good. Get to see the hounds.
[00:46:58] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I was like, alright. Because, you know, Martin Luther King birthday is that Monday, and, you know, I guess, Dee and Matt both have the day off. So so they just figured they'd they'll make it a a, you know, a 4 day week and drive down and, you know, hang out with me and see the house and stuff like this.
[00:47:28] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, there you go.
[00:47:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was I was surprised and, you know, Dee is like, well, I told you I'd come. I said, well, yeah. You did, but it still surprised me. I ain't I ain't gonna lie. But so, yeah, that was that was actually pretty cool. So I so I guess I have to clean my house.
[00:47:57] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-oh. Nah. His family. Fuck them. If they if they don't like it, you know what? They pack your shit back up and go home.
[00:48:10] Rich Chelson:
Right. House is that way. No. My no. My house ain't ain't bad. It just it's just normal stuff. Normal everyday stuff. I mean, I don't I don't have much house cleaning to do.
[00:48:26] Duuude-Ron :
But so, yeah, it's it's
[00:48:30] Rich Chelson:
the first couple days of 2025 have been different.
[00:48:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Sounds like it.
[00:48:39] Rich Chelson:
And and did I say this last night? I can't remember if I said this last night. But, you know, here in, what, 21 days, I've been in Mississippi a year.
[00:48:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You were Yeah. You yeah. Yeah. You mentioned that. Yep. Okay.
[00:48:59] Rich Chelson:
Now I was gonna say I I damn sure I damn sure couldn't remember if I said something about like that. It just I don't know. It just it just blew my mind. It's like, I've been here down that long. Really?
[00:49:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:49:14] Rich Chelson:
That's like crazy. So but yeah. Oh. Oh, hang on. I'd I I I did I did kinda read an article. Oh, something else that, something else I did find out about. Right? K. Remember how, a couple weeks ago? I don't know if it was on a Wednesday or Thursday night we was talking about this. You know, talking about, drones and, say a DJI and all like that?
[00:49:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:49:54] Rich Chelson:
Okay. The federal government has given now before the federal government was told DJI they were supposed to prove by the end of 2024 that, they were above board and all like this. Right?
[00:50:19] Duuude-Ron :
Above bars.
[00:50:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Not not, keeping secrets and giving it to the Chinese government, which Okay. Which, you know, TikTok and Facebook and everybody else does. Right? Well, I read, read an article shortly after we talked about that, and I've forgotten about it. But now instead of the end of 2024, they pushed it out another year to the end of 2025.
[00:50:55] Duuude-Ron :
Of course.
[00:50:56] Rich Chelson:
Because and, again, this is my opinion. The federal government cannot find any legal way to shut DJI down.
[00:51:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Not legally. No.
[00:51:13] Rich Chelson:
Is no. It's there. Yeah. Because this is why this is why they keep pushing it out. Okay? Because this has been going on for, you know, a couple years. This isn't the first time anyone, you know you know, it's not saying, you know, it's the first time this happened. This has been going on since, what, 22 or 23?
[00:51:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Something like that. Yeah.
[00:51:36] Rich Chelson:
And they just keep pushing it out. And I I freaking read that article, and I'm like, excuse me? I'm like, y'all are dumbasses. You just proved that you have nothing no basis to go on. No basis. You're just trying to drag this out and waste our tax money.
[00:51:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly. They wanna make it easier for American, drone manufacturers to to to to sell their stuff instead of actually, instead of having the, the, the drone, the drone manufacturers actually do something, make better, make better products.
[00:52:22] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. But see, that's the thing. Most most of the, American made drone manufacturers may have have their contracts with the federal government or police departments or city and state county governments. They don't give a shit about the consumer people. They're just bitching because DJI is doing so good.
[00:52:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. That's it exactly.
[00:52:48] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, I I read that. I just like I just like, yeah, okay. I've got I've got nothing. Nothing. I I I'm like I'm like, y'all are just full of shit when I read that because if you really had something, you would have already put something into place. So and and something else I read, Brian, you would you'll probably, understand this. Dude, dude, you might too. On December 16th last year, 2024, the IRS are lovely. IRS, internal internal revenue service, introduced new regulations that extend the definition of financial brokers to platforms operating in decentralized finance.
So basically, they're saying, what they're trying to do from the way I understand it is collect information, on people who buy and sell cryptocurrencies so they can tax it.
[00:54:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. They wanna well, they can already tax cryptocurrency, but
[00:54:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. They can already tax that for, say I make I put a $1,000,000 and, you know, I do whatever for cryptocurrency, and I make a $100,000. And as soon as I cash that out, 37%. So if I make a $100,000, I'm paying $37,000 in taxes once it comes to once I take it out of the cryptocurrency and put it in my bank account. 37%.
[00:55:02] Rich Chelson:
I didn't think they could do it with cryptocurrency.
[00:55:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. If you may Depending on who you're well, it depends on who you're going through. If you do if you're doing the ones that are legal in the US, they're reporting the, the gains to, to the IRS. Coinbase is reporting your your activity to the IRS.
[00:55:24] Rich Chelson:
I believe that. Yes. What about Yeah. Kraken?
[00:55:29] Bryan Goodwin:
What how about who? Kraken. Yeah. Did you make a profit when you pull it out? Is 2. The all I mean, the only ones that really aren't are the private, wallets, Just the just your wallets like, Nunchuck. Because that's all they are, are their wallets. So you get some you get some money and you throw it over into Nunchuck, and then you take that money from Nunchuck and you, say, you, get a, VPN, and you put it over into, fuck. I don't know. Into another, send you get a VPN and point it over to Columbia. And you send that, that Bitcoin over there, and then you're able to redirect it over to over to you as as, as American money, you can, in turn, actually avoid. But, again, you're gonna the bank's gonna, report the findings and so does the IRS can still go off and go, hey.
Where'd you get this extra $30,000 from?
[00:56:47] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But Well, yeah. As long as you keep it
[00:56:53] Duuude-Ron :
your profits in your wallet, it's not you haven't made any money. Just like an IRA. Just like an IRA. You haven't made any money
[00:57:05] Rich Chelson:
until you draw it out. Yeah. Until you pull it out. No. No. I know that. But but it says it says these are, the IRS is, trying to force all of the front end brokers. Front end trading service providers is what they say, like, I guess Right. Kraken, Coinbase, Robinhood, you know, all the all the ones to where, oh, use your debit card to buy crypto, which is cool and it's great. It it it actually has introduced crypto to everyday person. But but now, IRS is wanting all this information. So so if they make any money, they can, you know, oh, we have to tax that. And that's the thing. Oh, yeah. That's the
[00:57:57] Bryan Goodwin:
reason why, like, Cash App and and Venmo, they actually have to report, to the IRS if you receive more than $300 in a year.
[00:58:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. I had, yeah, I had noticed about that. Yeah. I had yeah. I was and say that's the thing, you know. It it's like it's like leave us alone. I I mean I mean, we're taxed on our fucking money to the Sunday. Anyway yeah. I mean, seriously. I mean, you're taxed on what you make. You're taxed on the stuff you buy. You're taxed again at the end of the year, you know. It's like
[00:58:42] Bryan Goodwin:
And you're taxed when you die.
[00:58:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[00:58:45] Duuude-Ron :
You know? And and everything in fucking between.
[00:58:49] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:58:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Oh, yeah. There's like like the average person when they get paid are paying 8, paying taxes 8 times on that same fucking bit of money.
[00:59:02] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I believe it.
[00:59:07] Duuude-Ron :
I do not know that. You buy you buy gas? Guess what?
[00:59:11] Rich Chelson:
There's a tax in there. Yep. Oh, there's a couple taxes. Federal Oh, yeah. County? Yep. Oh, yeah. That's yeah. You know? And it it's just like yeah. It's crazy.
[00:59:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Agents. And they still will never fucking be able to balance the goddamn budget.
[00:59:36] Rich Chelson:
Well, no, because they give everyone else money and they don't write it down.
[00:59:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They give everybody else money and then go, oh, by the way, yeah, all that money we gave you, that's, that's a forgiven loan.
[00:59:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And we have veteran and we have veterans fucking homeless living out on the goddamn streets.
[01:00:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[01:00:04] Duuude-Ron :
Now, I mean, we have homeless period, but for somebody to have signed a contract up into the point of death, and nobody wants to take care of them.
[01:00:21] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:00:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, shit. They you go in as a normal person. You get your eggs scrambled. When you come out, it's like, oh, shit. That's on you. Figure it out your fucking self.
[01:00:38] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's that's thanks to our government.
[01:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yep.
[01:00:42] Rich Chelson:
You know, they say they say they wanna help, but they don't. Oh, we have a lot of red tape to go through. Now you can cut through the red tape. It's not hard.
[01:00:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:00:56] Rich Chelson:
You gotta tell the other motherfuckers to shut up.
[01:01:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Exactly. But that'll never fucking happen because nobody will get together as a collective and fix it. Right. Everybody is always that dollar goes around that fucking circle faster than the fucking neutron in that one fucking laboratory. I can't remember where the fuck it's at. It's like 13 miles diameter. Yeah. It's a little bit of atoms. CERN. Yeah. That fucking dollar superglider. Yeah. That motherfucking dollar moves faster than those goddamn protons when they're passing a buck.
[01:01:40] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:01:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:01:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. I just yeah. I just yeah. I just I just noticed that, and I, I I looked at it on my phone, and so I I, I shared it to my email. It's like it's like, this is bullshit, man. It's like, the shit's never gonna stop. I know it, but, you know, it's like it's like, damn, let us have something of our own. You know?
[01:02:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You got the remaining 37¢ out of that dollar. That's your own.
[01:02:21] Rich Chelson:
No. No. I want I want more than 37¢,
[01:02:27] Duuude-Ron :
dude. It'd be nice if we had, like, 62¢.
[01:02:31] Rich Chelson:
Okay. I can work with 62.
[01:02:33] Duuude-Ron :
So could I. But you're only fucking getting 37.
[01:02:37] Rich Chelson:
No. I can't do it, man.
[01:02:40] Duuude-Ron :
Then go live in your fucking jeep. Make it 37¢.
[01:02:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Ain't no way I could live in my Jeep on 37¢
[01:02:52] Rich Chelson:
now.
[01:02:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Aw, come on. You could try.
[01:02:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, see, if you if you sold the house and lived in the jeep, you know, got your list like, my trailer. Yeah. You know, I didn't even sell you my trailer. You have the tent on top. You know, there's air conditioning. There's a generator. Right. You know, you would think you went from 37 to 62¢. Right. Right. Now now your standard of living, well, that's going down to 23¢ probably.
[01:03:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:03:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Well, actually, I mean, depending on where you go, I still a lot of people go to, go to Thailand because of the cost of living. You can you can live as a damn king for for next to
[01:03:40] Rich Chelson:
nothing. Right?
[01:03:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Just my retirement. If I didn't have any responsibilities for anybody else in my life other than me, yeah, I could go to Thailand. And on just my retirement, my VA, yeah, I could live like a fucking millionaire.
[01:04:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Yep. Blame me. Blame me. Before I bought this house in Mississippi, I thought about it. I fucking thought about it because I was I, you know, I, you know, got my VA, my SSDI. I was like, well, fuck. I got enough. And I was I was looking into the cost of living, like, in the Philippines or Thailand or something. I'm like, holy shit.
[01:04:27] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm like, good god. I can No wonder they moved there.
[01:04:31] Rich Chelson:
Right? Because, yeah, shit I mean, shit's cheap, and, you know, that's the thing. I wouldn't be living in squalor. I'd be living in a nice freaking house eating good. You know? Yep. Yeah. And still have Internet, still have everything that I have here.
[01:04:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:04:54] Rich Chelson:
Now it might not be, you know, they have, power outages more more often than not, but
[01:05:07] Duuude-Ron :
fucking That's why you have a generator. That's why you get a generator.
[01:05:11] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. I no. I very seriously thought about it before I moved down here. I was looking into it.
[01:05:27] Duuude-Ron :
I can imagine.
[01:05:29] Rich Chelson:
Just because I mean, I because, you know what I mean? I'm cheap. And I'm like, oh, I could live good there. Yep. I would be close to the water. It'd be warm year round. Monsoon season would suck. Yeah. You know? Yeah. They don't have, cyclones. They have cyclones. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They have cyclones, which is just like a hurricane, just another word for it, I guess. Yeah. It's just, cyclones happen in the Pacific, while hurricanes happen in, in the Atlantic.
[01:06:05] Bryan Goodwin:
That's the only difference.
[01:06:07] Rich Chelson:
Okay. So it's the same thing. You're still gonna get wet, and it's still gonna be windy.
[01:06:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[01:06:14] Rich Chelson:
Okay. See, I'm good with that, especially now even though even though I have not had a hurricane come right over my house, and I pray that never happens. But I got a feeling living here that it's gonna happen at least once. But, I mean, I was on the outer edge of 1. So I got to feel a little bit of what it was like, but I didn't get the full experience, I should say.
[01:06:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, like you said, hopefully, you'll never have to deal with it. I hope not. I hope not because that would
[01:06:52] Rich Chelson:
that would bite the big weenie. That would speaking of weenie, I bought hot dogs the other day. Man, I was I hadn't had hot dogs in in, like, a couple months. I had made sausage.
[01:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Use, like, Frankenfurter style weenies. I usually just use sausage. What? That's what I'm just kind of a fan of sausage.
[01:07:20] Rich Chelson:
Well oh, no. I love sausage. I I bought I bought, like, 4 or 5 packs of andouille sausage because, yeah, I'm I'm I'm a be making jambalaya and gumbo fucking here quite a bit, you know, but and I normally buy it, but, my god, I just wanted a hot dog. I had had a hot dog for a long while, and I had made some chili, what, earlier last year, and I've got that in the freezer. So I'm going me some chili dogs one of these days.
[01:07:52] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there you go.
[01:07:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah, dude. Homemade chili with hot dogs on bread. Oh, my god. I'll be eating good in the neighborhood. That's alright.
[01:08:06] Duuude-Ron :
You you still nibbling on the turkey too?
[01:08:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, man. Shit. That was gone, dude. That was gone for the 3rd day.
[01:08:14] Rich Chelson:
I freaking tore that shit up. No. It took me about a week to eat that. I tore that shit up. I didn't I didn't cook anything for see see, I didn't cook nothing for for Christmas. I just kinda just munched. Yeah. That's about it. I didn't have no turkey, no ham or not. Oh, my neighbor across the street from me brought me some ham and macaroni and cheese. So I didn't know they was gonna do that. But yeah. He yeah. He And a big old piece of, freaking pineapple upside down cake. Huge piece. Oh my god. I had that in a long time. Right? Oh, it was good. Long time. I mean, it was it was like, wow. It was really good. And then then my neighbor, Sarah, crossed away, brought me some red velvet cupcakes couple days before Christmas.
And then, and she brought me a little box. She had made cupcakes and put 6 of them in a little box, so I ate 2 the next day with my coffee. Ate 2, I think it was on Monday. I can't remember what day Christmas was on. But
[01:09:42] Duuude-Ron :
Christmas is actually on Wednesday.
[01:09:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That's right. So, yeah, it was on Sunday or no. See. Either way, there, I didn't eat none on on Christmas Eve because I saved the last 2 and I opened them on Christmas day and ate those with my coffee. And then a day or 2 after Christmas, she freaking brings me 2 big old pieces of Dutch apple pie she had made. Homemade? Oh, yes. This was all white stuff. None of this was store bought. I was like, oh my gosh. I'm like I'm like
[01:10:23] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, you need to move in with them then. Right?
[01:10:26] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:10:27] Duuude-Ron :
Sell your house and move in with them.
[01:10:29] Rich Chelson:
Oh, man. I was I'm trying to lose weight, dude. And, you know, I'm trying. I'm I'm I've actually been doing, pretty good. My belly Yeah. Well, you know what? Like, way small.
[01:10:44] Duuude-Ron :
Quitters never win and winners never quit. So
[01:10:50] Rich Chelson:
But but I'm not. Deal with it. How about that? I'm not I'm not as big as I was even in July. I'm smaller.
[01:11:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah?
[01:11:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:11:03] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[01:11:04] Rich Chelson:
I'm telling you, man. You know, before, I couldn't see my pecker at all. Had hadn't seen it for years. And now I just gotta suck in a little bit and, hey. What's up? You know, serious, man. I'm like, I'm freaking happy, you know, doing the happy dance. You know, I I, you know, I don't need a little mirror, you know, to make sure everything's still attached down there. So so I gotta say it's it was it was actually pretty good to just, you know, relax over the holidays and and yeah. I mean, oh my god. The, baked goods I got. And I don't even know how I rated that, but I I'm not complaining by no means.
I can't wait till lunch. Gonna say yeah. How the hell did you rate that? Yeah. And Dude, that's a good damn question. I do not know. Do not know. And, yeah, I had even gotten cookies before all that.
[01:12:17] Duuude-Ron :
Things you ponder about of the universe. How the hell did I get so damn lucky to get, you know, this kind of shit? This kind of these kind of treats.
[01:12:34] Rich Chelson:
You know, I was just enjoying the treats. I really didn't put much thought into it because I was like, keep them coming, please.
[01:12:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I believe you.
[01:12:45] Rich Chelson:
But see, the thing is, okay, what do you do for for someone who is a vegan and is gluten free? What do you cook for them
[01:13:00] Bryan Goodwin:
to, you know, say thank you or whatnot. I mean, I told them thank you. You know? I I told her and her husband thank you multiple times. But Well, you actually what you do is you cook whatever you want for them. And if they go, well, I don't eat that. It's like, oh, okay. More for me. Well, your loss, my gain, I have to I hate to say it. Next time, don't be so fucking picky.
[01:13:23] Duuude-Ron :
How about a fish fry?
[01:13:28] Bryan Goodwin:
If they're vegan, then the fish is the fish fry is, is is animal.
[01:13:34] Rich Chelson:
Well well well well, Sarah did say she will eat seafood once in a while, but not really. So it's like, you know, I'm sitting here thinking it's like, what what? Do I make a salad and take it over? That'd be, like, totally rude. You know?
[01:13:57] Duuude-Ron :
Well I don't know. Ask them. Ask them. That's how you know. Ask
[01:14:07] Bryan Goodwin:
them. Seriously.
[01:14:08] Duuude-Ron :
No. You say, hey. Do you know you make me all these treats? What can I make for you?
[01:14:14] Rich Chelson:
And they would say, oh, nothing. Nothing. Don't. You don't have to make us nothing. What do you do then, dude? Because I don't know, man. Honestly, I don't.
[01:14:27] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I can't answer that question.
[01:14:32] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:14:33] Duuude-Ron :
Can't help you on that one because
[01:14:37] Rich Chelson:
I don't worry about gluten.
[01:14:42] Duuude-Ron :
Really don't care. Well And I sure the hell ain't vegan. Right. Because I love me I love me a thick steak.
[01:14:49] Rich Chelson:
A thick steak? Oh, yeah.
[01:14:51] Duuude-Ron :
Thick steak. Snake? Yeah. Snake? You ever had snake? It's not too bad.
[01:14:58] Rich Chelson:
No. Honestly, I've never had snake. I would like to try it, though. I've heard it's really good. Well,
[01:15:05] Bryan Goodwin:
next time you come down, to Oklahoma during, during the, the rattlesnake derby, we'll, we'll go down to Mangum. They have they serve, they've served snake there. I would try it. Gets it. Oh, rattlesnake's good. I mean, that's there's not much to it. There's a lot of fucking bone in it, obviously. Mhmm. But it's I mean, it tastes like it. If anything, it's it's close to chicken. I won't say it tastes like chicken. It's just it's the texture and all that reminds people of chicken.
[01:15:34] Rich Chelson:
Really? I Yeah. I was gonna I was gonna ask if it tastes like Gator. If it tastes like Gator, I'm in. Fucking Gator's good, man. Yeah. Gator's good. Oh, fuck. I I tear up some Gator now.
[01:15:48] Duuude-Ron :
Never had gator myself.
[01:15:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, you don't like gator?
[01:15:52] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You're in go next time you're up in the DFW area, go to number 1 Pearl Street and order some, alligator tail.
[01:16:05] Rich Chelson:
Oh, gator is awesome, man. Yeah. Gator is good.
[01:16:09] Duuude-Ron :
The only time I'm up in Dallas, if I'm driving a truck to freaking Grand Prairie, and I don't think I could park that truck on the street and go in and have lunch. I don't think I'd like that.
[01:16:22] Rich Chelson:
Who cares?
[01:16:24] Duuude-Ron :
It's a big truck. So? I don't I don't know if I could get that many parking spaces in a row Dude. That are empty.
[01:16:32] Rich Chelson:
Dude, I remember I remember one time I I was I was coming down through, DFW, right, on 35? And I said, fuck. Let me take the west side to Fort Worth side. Right? Uh-huh. Because I was just tired of of the Dallas side. So I took off 35 w going south, And I was riding on down in about mile marker 8 just before where it where it comes back into 35, I saw a fucking Dairy Queen. I pulled I jumped off that exit, and I pulled right up to their front fucking doors with my truck and trailer. And I parked the truck, and I walked in and got Dairy I blocked the whole fucking parking lot while I went and got my Dairy Queen. And, you know, and you know them parking lots ain't that big. So everyone that was there had to stay there until I got my Dairy Queen. And there was no one else coming in to get in front of me to get my Dairy Queen. I got my Dairy Queen. Oh, hell, dude.
I was yeah. I was craving some Dairy Queen. I ain't scared. I drive a big truck down there.
[01:17:54] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know.
[01:17:56] Rich Chelson:
Or if you want, drive to Grand Prairie, drop the trailer, and say, I'll be back after a while and take the truck and pop Tella to the restaurant. You'll only need 2 parking places then.
[01:18:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's true.
[01:18:11] Rich Chelson:
See? Figure it out by god. Yeah. I'm not scared. I I've done it before more than once. Yeah. Other than that Yeah. It's just I just I just been I just been kinda just chilling.
[01:18:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Chilling north of What's been happening in the ham world?
[01:18:46] Rich Chelson:
Well, on New Year's Day, it was funny because, I saw the numbers and and and then I looked at my site, my one site for, solar flares and shit like that. Uh-huh. We were having a g three storm on New Year's day. I mean, it but it wasn't affecting me that bad because my first, five contacts of New Year's Day was, all in, other countries. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I talked to, Bosnia, Greece, Italy. Shoot. I can't remember the other 2. Dang it. But they were all they were all in in in other countries. And then finally, later in the afternoon when the storm had died down, I talked to a few people here in the states.
So, well, that guy, in a in a in a New Mexico, and then, I made a couple POTA contacts. It was it was actually a pretty good day. Okay. Even with even with the g three storm going.
[01:20:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We're supposed to have a meteor shower tonight and tomorrow night. Meteor shower. Major. Yeah. Major meteor shower. And I wonder which one's here. I can't remember what the name was. I can't remember what the name of the of the belt that's coming across the Earth right now. But they're supposed to be, like, being able to see, like, 40, 50 meteors per hour.
[01:20:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's Oh, it's quant okay. It's, like, the, the quadrant trant id. Quadrantids.
[01:20:53] Rich Chelson:
That's a hard word to say.
[01:20:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It is.
[01:21:00] Duuude-Ron :
So I might go tomorrow night, go out on Fort Hood where it's a little bit darker and see if I can't see any. Right. That'd be interesting. I haven't done that in a long time.
[01:21:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, you should be able to. I mean, when because that's the thing, you know, if they're if they're talking about, 40 to 50 an hour, it's a pretty good chance you're gonna see a couple.
[01:21:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I think I might just do that tomorrow night.
[01:21:40] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool, dude. You ought to do that.
[01:21:44] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? I just might. Yeah. It says may won't even cost me a quarter of a tank of gas.
[01:21:51] Rich Chelson:
See? There you go, dude.
[01:21:53] Duuude-Ron :
Because I won't go all the way. I'll be on the, where Ballora's at. Well, I know you've never been on Fort Hood. But where I'm at, I can go through, the back area to go the back way into the military installation through the back gate versus getting on, you know, I 14 and, you know, going through the front gates where all the barracks and, you know, all that stuff is at. I'll go in through the back way, but about halfway there is Nolanville Road, and it you can go up on a hill and it is quite dark. K. And probably be able to see, hopefully, be able to see some of those meteors.
That'd be nice.
[01:22:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, I would say I would say you would, dude, because of the meteor showers I've watched and and, normally, I watch the Persades and a few of the others during the summer. Yeah. You've I mean, even even if there's light pollution, you can still see quite a few of them.
[01:23:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So
[01:23:17] Rich Chelson:
but yeah. No. It's, see, it's supposed to be cold, man. Near 1745 t c on the third. So that would put it at 11 o'clock at night, about 23100.
[01:23:42] Duuude-Ron :
Is that when they're supposed to be visible?
[01:23:45] Rich Chelson:
No. Hang on. Let's see.
[01:23:52] Duuude-Ron :
Man, if it's 23100, my ass is in bed. I'm an old fucker.
[01:23:57] Rich Chelson:
It says it says predictions for 2025 show a peak near 1745, UTC on January 3rd. And it says, the timing favors the pacific area. So that puts say if we're at 6 hours, 7, 8 hours, so 17 minus 8, put it about 9:45 at night.
[01:24:28] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. I can handle that.
[01:24:33] Rich Chelson:
They've got their numbers all fuckered up.
[01:24:38] Duuude-Ron :
Fuckered up. There you go. That's your big word for the day.
[01:24:43] Rich Chelson:
Fuckered up. No. No. No. They're saying, 17:45 UTC time. Okay? And and if you take the central time zone, we're 6 hours behind. So you minus 6 from 17, You're looking at 11:45 during the day. You're not gonna see nothing during the day.
[01:25:07] Duuude-Ron :
No. He won't.
[01:25:09] Rich Chelson:
You know, and like like like right now, it's it's, 2:25 UTC. 2 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. I think I think they I think they added 12, and they should have subtracted 12.
[01:25:26] Duuude-Ron :
Who fucking knows? But, you know, if I go out there well, hell when it gets dark at what? Fuck. It's completely dark by fucking 7. Yeah. You know, if I drive out there and It's like 5:30 here.
[01:25:40] Rich Chelson:
5:30, it's dark.
[01:25:43] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah.
[01:25:44] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I was gonna say, y'all getting a 7? How do y'all rate? Well, no. I
[01:25:52] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, like I said, it's completely dark by 7, so then, you know, you don't have to worry about any ENT.
[01:26:01] Rich Chelson:
Well, say say if that's the case, that that would put it at at 7. I'd put it at, 0100 UTC. And, see, that's the thing. A lot of these, science sites, They use, UTC, and they don't they don't Oh, they regular people. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I got you. Yeah. The time is in a regular time because a lot of people don't know how to figure Yeah. The time difference, you know. Right. Yeah. A lot do, but yet a lot don't, you know.
[01:26:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And if they're if then if they're not advertising that x time is UTC, it's like, okay. Yeah. 6 what? 6 hour difference to central time zone?
[01:26:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. From UTC? Time zone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right now, it's 6 hours. And then, of course, when we move forward, it'll be 5 hours. Fucks me up for Hopefully. 5 months when that happens. Hopefully
[01:27:10] Duuude-Ron :
hopefully, this will be the fucking last time we ever change the clocks because hopefully, Trump will get when he gets in the office, delete fucking daylight savings time, make not make it an executive order, make it a goddamn fucking law. Right. And because we're the only fucking country that does it. Nobody else does it. Right. Of course and, of course, everybody else in the world goes by the 24 hour clock. We're the only one that goes AM, PM.
[01:27:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I see. Yeah. That's that's something else. You know, it's like but but you see, if we switch to UTC time, then, we would have to go to the metric system and, God forbid, if that happens.
[01:28:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, god. Yeah. No. Uh-uh. We ain't doing that. Right. Right.
[01:28:06] Rich Chelson:
And and you see, that's that's where that's where it's kinda hard for me sometimes because with with ham radio, I deal a lot with metric. I'm I'm still not I'm still not proficient at it by no means. But, I use I use a lot of the metric system, you know, when I'm dealing with, amateur radio. And it Yeah. Sometimes my brain just just frazzles on me for a while. And I gotta stop, go smoke a cigarette, relax, and then think about it again.
[01:28:42] Duuude-Ron :
You know, God forbid if, you know, the United States would, like, just do with what the rest of the world is doing. I know we are I know we're fucking we gotta be unique and all, but Jesus.
[01:28:58] Rich Chelson:
We can still be unique, you know, but I mean, we can still be us. Oh, hey. Did y'all hear Jimmy Carter died?
[01:29:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yep. On the 27th? 9th. 29th? Yeah. Okay.
[01:29:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. He was a 100 years old. I was like, oh, no.
[01:29:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:29:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I'd saw I'd I I had saw something about that. I think I think it was yesterday or today. I couldn't remember. But I saw that, and I was like, holy crap.
[01:29:33] Duuude-Ron :
So now you're just now figuring out why all the, American flags are half staff?
[01:29:38] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. And that's actually what started it because some of the flags that I drive by normally have some, like, why the hell is that a half staff? I I had no clue.
[01:29:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. You know, and that's what I'll do is when I start seeing flags at half staff, it's like, okay. Who passed away? Right. You know? But now they'll be at half staff for 30 days. Yep. Yeah. And if it's if it's a congressman or something like that, I think it's 15 days or diplomat or some shit. I can't remember.
[01:30:17] Rich Chelson:
Well, I was saying that's like sometimes, you know, I, you know, I've seen the flags that have staff and it's like, why the fuck are they at half staff? You know, it's it's like because I mean, I didn't hear about or read about anyone, you know. And and when I say hear, read about, I'm talking like president, you know, someone important to warrant, you know, a flag at half staff.
[01:30:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I did. Well, the president, what was it this past year on the anniversary of Sandy Hook, ordered the, flags at half staff for that day. Really? I think it was Sandy Hook. It was one of the major, shootings
[01:31:07] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:31:08] Duuude-Ron :
That he he did, half staff for that day on the anniversary. He's
[01:31:17] Rich Chelson:
say, I don't know. I mean, I don't wanna sound callous because I'm not, you know. You know, I'm sorry that happened, but I thought I thought running a flag at half staff was only for, like, the federal government, you know, military, you know, stuff like that.
[01:31:38] Duuude-Ron :
I didn't know it could For the most part, yeah. You know? There's only been a couple times that it's been dropped to half staff for, you know, mass shooting, you know, thing, which I think that is very respectable. Right. You know? I if I was president, I'd do the same damn thing. Why not order a fucking half staff for some place that received a mass shooting? That's just showing, you know, the respect of all those individuals that for the victims and the families.
[01:32:16] Rich Chelson:
Right. And no, I you know, I'm not say I'm not saying it as a bad thing. It's just I didn't know that that that was even an option.
[01:32:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. President can, issue an executive order for half staff of the flag for, you know, whatever he deems. Now is he gonna do it fucking every day? No. No. That ain't gonna happen.
[01:32:41] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:32:47] Duuude-Ron :
So who is the oldest pre president? The first Bush is probably now the oldest living president.
[01:33:00] Rich Chelson:
No. I thought he died. Yeah. Did he did he die? I okay. Bush senior? Yeah. No. No. He died, I think. Let me look it up, but I I Okay.
[01:33:13] Duuude-Ron :
And he very well could have, You know?
[01:33:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. He So then you're He died in 2018.
[01:33:19] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. So, I wonder who would he be there? Clinton. Clinton Clinton is the oldest one now. Is probably the oldest. Yeah. Well, he's in his, what, 8 well, eighties.
[01:33:32] Bryan Goodwin:
He's about 11ty. Yeah.
[01:33:36] Duuude-Ron :
And see, the bad thing about it is Biden's still in office, and he's fucking right there with him.
[01:33:43] Rich Chelson:
Actually, Biden is older than Bill Clinton because Yeah. Yeah.
[01:33:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Biden's only 78.
[01:33:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Clinton's 78, and Biden's 81.
[01:33:53] Duuude-Ron :
So then when Biden goes out of the office, he'll be the oldest.
[01:33:59] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yeah.
[01:34:02] Bryan Goodwin:
We'll see for how. Well, hell, you're about Texas. Didn't you?
[01:34:09] Duuude-Ron :
Sure. What? Fuck. I don't know. Sure. You know what? Texas is a Texas. Amazed me.
[01:34:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I think it she's a representative. Kay Granger Oh, yeah. Has been in a nursing home, or assisted living center for 6 months. Hasn't been, yep. She's an elected official and just up and fell off the face of the earth. And no one said a thing, no one questioned. It was like, oh no, no, no, no. They all, the damn woman was at off in assisted living because she couldn't live by herself no more.
[01:34:44] Duuude-Ron :
But she had also, basically stepped down.
[01:34:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Apparently didn't bother to tell nobody, though.
[01:34:55] Duuude-Ron :
Well, she told the people in the
[01:34:58] Bryan Goodwin:
because no one knew. She had been missing on on 6 months worth of rolls. Roll calls. Just
[01:35:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I saw that. That was that's been blowing up on the Internet now for a little while. Yeah. Yeah. Hold it. Hey. I wanna say that again. Who is this person in town? Her name is Kay Granger.
[01:35:21] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:35:22] Bryan Goodwin:
And she is a, I don't know. Let me look. I can't remember if she is a state or federal representative at Texas.
[01:35:32] Duuude-Ron :
She's a state representative.
[01:35:34] Bryan Goodwin:
US state. Yeah. She's a u she's a federal rep.
[01:35:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Is she a federal? Okay. Yeah. She's federal.
[01:35:44] Bryan Goodwin:
And, yeah. She, apparently, about 6 months ago, she, she went into assisted living
[01:35:54] Duuude-Ron :
and,
[01:35:56] Bryan Goodwin:
dementia. Nobody, and nobody said a thing.
[01:36:01] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Now that now that that's wrong.
[01:36:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I agree.
[01:36:09] Rich Chelson:
That is that is misrepresentation
[01:36:12] Bryan Goodwin:
of the American 6 months of no representation from from her district.
[01:36:17] Rich Chelson:
Wow. I mean, what did what did the staffers do all day?
[01:36:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, they were I'm sure they were probably having a good time of free, of of doing whatever they wanted to for free.
[01:36:29] Rich Chelson:
Right. And getting paid for it. Yep. That's crazy, man.
[01:36:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's just I saw that. I was like, I know.
[01:36:40] Bryan Goodwin:
I
[01:36:41] Duuude-Ron :
know. You know, I should become a fucking senator or house of representatives and just fucking work from the house. I'd have to get a fucking computer then. So, you know, that may work. You would. Hey, dude. But but you know have a staffer to work your computer.
[01:36:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly. There you go.
[01:37:00] Duuude-Ron :
And just direct them to what I need. And it's like, get paid a $100,000 a year to, you know, yeah. Tell me what to do. Yeah. Yep.
[01:37:14] Rich Chelson:
Seriously, man. That's hey. That's game on, man. Rocket.
[01:37:21] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. Thank you.
[01:37:23] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool. The dude as as a as a state or a federal representative.
[01:37:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Wells Shit. State rep, it only gets, only gets about $600 a month in Texas. About $7,200 a year as a state, Texas state representative. And, but then you want if you go federal
[01:37:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, if you go federal, it's a 100 and
[01:37:57] Bryan Goodwin:
47,000, isn't it? 174,000. Oh, 100 and Oh, no. Hello. Oh, oh, oh, oh, let's see here. Doing well. See. Compensation from most centers representative, delegates, and resident commissioners from Puerto Rico is 7 174 $1,000. These levels have remained unchanged since 2009. So over 10 years. Holy shit. We've gotta up our pay. We can't we can't afford this.
[01:38:25] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shit. For sure. Well, yeah. Okay. That's their base pay. How much are they getting for fucking allowances?
[01:38:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it depends on what they do.
[01:38:37] Rich Chelson:
Good choice. Yeah.
[01:38:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well Well, I'm sure they're getting I'm sure they're getting different committees and shit. Well, no. But, like, allowance for housing, allowance for food, allowance for this, allowance for car, allows all these other fucking allowance.
[01:38:55] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:38:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. All those other allowances on top of the $174,000 a year to sit around. And anytime I've ever seen the freaking the government sitting around in the chambers, they're just sitting there bullshitting.
[01:39:18] Rich Chelson:
That's what they get paid to do, dude.
[01:39:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know. It's fucking ironic.
[01:39:24] Rich Chelson:
Well, say that's where that's where you know, we are we are doing the wrong thing here. We seriously need to get into government, man, and need to aim high. And get into federal government, man. You can sit and just oh my god. You can sit back, drink your coffee with your little pinky out, and just bullshit all day. I mean, come on now.
[01:39:49] Duuude-Ron :
Or you could be, who's that fucking representative we got for Texas? What the hell is his name? Cruz? And spend God only knows how many how much fucking money on his great big fucking boards that he does when he when he's grilling somebody.
[01:40:08] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:40:10] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? See, that would be the fun part. You could just sit there and grandstand all you want, dear, and send it in, and, Darren's senate hearings.
[01:40:20] Rich Chelson:
Dude, think about it. You could take you could take your outlook and attitude and everything that you have right now, and you could reel other people in the government, man, and get paid to do it.
[01:40:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, that would be like The bad thing the only bad thing about it is is they could grill me too.
[01:40:47] Rich Chelson:
No. They can't because you're not the one on trial. Well, yeah. No. No. They can't grill you because you're the one sitting there talking to the freaking director of Homeland Security asking him, why the fuck didn't you give, you know, the money we've allotted to this area? Or or or or why haven't you closed this border? Why haven't you, you know, messed with the drug trade or anything like this? I mean, dude, you could get paid to do that every day. And then you would get invited to the the, Kennedy Center, go watch shows, eat eat good food.
Man, shoot. You'd be living out on hoe.
[01:41:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Only problem is is I don't do politics very well.
[01:41:42] Rich Chelson:
That's why we need you in the government, man. We don't want politics.
[01:41:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. And you know what? If I showed up in a fucking, set of bib overalls
[01:41:58] Rich Chelson:
That would be a funny sight if I ever saw you on a pair.
[01:42:02] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, yeah. And not and not only just not just only a pair of bib overalls, but red and white striped bib overalls.
[01:42:16] Rich Chelson:
You would be making a fashion statement.
[01:42:20] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, yeah. They asked me, why why why don't you wear a suit? Do we have to fucking is it is there a law that says we have to fucking wear a goddamn suit? No. Probably. I'd be coming in in a fucking T shirt and shorts and Crocs. You and your Crocs, man. Yep. Why not? There's nothing saying that, you know, they have to wear a suit. What what what what is wearing a suit compared to a T shirt and shorts that is gonna negate my morals, ethics, character, and integrity.
[01:43:11] Rich Chelson:
Well, I think I think they have something prepared to explain that, but oh, wow. The federal government does have a dress code. It varies by agency, department, position, and other factors. But, for most professional staff, which is what you would be, the dress code includes, traditional business attire such as a coat and tie for men and a pantsuit dress or skirt for women.
[01:43:47] Duuude-Ron :
Fuck that.
[01:43:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you can always go off and say you identify as a woman and wear a dress.
[01:43:53] Duuude-Ron :
What? No. I would I would identify as
[01:43:57] Rich Chelson:
You can wear a pink chiffon dress, man. No.
[01:44:01] Duuude-Ron :
I'm not Klinger. Not corporal Klinger. No. Couldn't couldn't do that, but I damn sure say, you know what? Fuck your dress code. I didn't get elected for on a dress code. Y'all like the overalls? Y'all like the shorts and the t shirt? Hey. You know what? You can't fire me. So what are you gonna do? Find me?
[01:44:32] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:44:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You can't. It would be fine or cinch or 1 of the 2.
[01:44:37] Rich Chelson:
Or both.
[01:44:38] Duuude-Ron :
Or both. Oh, okay. What's that gonna fucking what's that gonna do? I still fucking voice my opinion. Yeah. SENTURE?
[01:44:51] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. When well, see, that's the thing, SENTURE, Yeah. You could say anything you wanted, but they just fine you for whatever you said. So your so your $174,000 wouldn't be a 100 cent. It'd be 23¢.
[01:45:07] Duuude-Ron :
You you think that they're paying those fines? Seriously?
[01:45:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, I don't know.
[01:45:14] Duuude-Ron :
I I I highly doubt that when they get censured, they're actually paying those fines out of their pocket. I highly doubt it. No. I could be wrong. You know, I'm not a politician. Don't fucking deal with that. But, you know, I highly doubt that. Because, you know, I could make one deal with this contractor and make that money back. Right?
[01:45:41] Rich Chelson:
Possibly so. I mean, I don't know, dude.
[01:45:44] Duuude-Ron :
No. Because that's putting my character and integrity into question. I like that.
[01:45:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:45:58] Duuude-Ron :
So that's another reason why I couldn't play that game because 98% of them ain't got no integrity. No. I And their and their character is always in question.
[01:46:16] Rich Chelson:
But that's the thing. Who who's the or what what basis, I guess. Trying to find the right word for it, but, I mean, who's to say whether your character is good or bad? You know what I mean? I mean, what's what's the basis for that? I mean, obviously, the obvious thing, bad character, you know, is if you're, you know, always in trouble with the law and shit like that, you know. But but if you're not in trouble with the law, who can actually question your character is There's only what I'm asking.
[01:47:05] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there's only one person that's ever gonna be able to question my character.
[01:47:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. No. No. I know that. You know? But but, you know, that's you see, this is what see, this is this is stuff I think about because it's like it's like who of us is allowed to question another person's character? Because that person, that might be all they know, and they're doing life by them.
[01:47:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I have no problem judging other people's character. Okay. I'll I'll do it. I mean, they'll they'll judge me. I mean, and that's on, in all re in all seriousness, when it comes to, you know, what we judge a character, you know what people bitch about? What's that? Judging a character that they don't agree with. If I say you're a good man, that's a judge to your character.
[01:48:07] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah.
[01:48:09] Bryan Goodwin:
That's me judging your character. I according to who I am, your character's, your character's, is is good. Your moral character's a good man, Charlie Brown, but yet we throw a fit whenever we go, dude, you are just the lowest life scumball that it's ever come across the face of the earth. Oh my god. You can't judge me. No. No. No. No. No. You have no problem when I said you're a good dude. You're a great dad. You're a great uncle there. But, you know, but all of a sudden, I say, yeah. You're you're you're a little rough on the person. Oh my God. You're horrible. You you you can't judge me. Bullshit. We make judgments all the damn time. Okay. We are always making judgment.
If you wanna judge on making a left turn or right turn, I I think my judgment is telling me it's faster to make a 10 turn. That's judging. We're always making judgments. We're making a judgment call. I think we need to spend money on, you know, electricity instead of on the gas for the car. Okay. That's it. It's just we're making judgments. We constantly make judgments, but the problem that everybody has is when they make judgments that they don't agree with or they don't wanna hear. They actually Okay. May agree with them that you've got a low qual that you've got a bad character set, but they don't wanna have to admit that. They don't wanna have to face that discomfort. So they're going to throw a fit about it and go, oh, well, you can't judge me. Well, bullshit. Dude, I just did. Well, who are you? I'm me.
You're gonna have whatever judgment you wanna have of me. You probably think I'm a son of a bitch. Okay. Sweet. You do. You, man. I have no problem with you calling me a son of a bitch. Right. You call me a lowlife scumbag. Alright. Sweet. I'm a lowlife scumbag. The issue though, is that to to throw a fit about me making a judgment is a fallacy.
[01:50:16] Rich Chelson:
Oh god. That's the zip. The word that that has escaped the definition has escaped my mind. A falsehood. Never mind. Yeah. I got it. Yeah. It's a falsehood. It's a fallacy. Yeah. I'm sorry. My, you said fallacy, and my brain just, like, fucking exploded for a second. My my your brain went to foul.
[01:50:38] Duuude-Ron :
Exploded or imploded?
[01:50:43] Rich Chelson:
It it imploded first and then exploded out. Yeah. It was like because it's been so long since I heard that word fallacy.
[01:50:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, the reason that it's so easy to remember fallacy is just because it starts out with phallic. And so I was like, so Sure.
[01:51:07] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Brian,
[01:51:09] Bryan Goodwin:
your your mind is your mind is Oh, hell yeah. I've I've I have no problem admitting that I have got I I've got a I I I'm a dirty bird when it comes to it comes to thoughts.
[01:51:22] Rich Chelson:
That is that is I'm not gonna argue that point, dude. Not at all.
[01:51:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Man, come on. It's like if you stop time. The question we had a couple a couple weeks ago. You stop time, what are you gonna do? Well, I'm gonna go and undress all the good looking girls. That's what I'm gonna do. I would Is that what you moral? No. I mean, we didn't say anything about moral. It's just what would you do.
[01:51:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I would go slap so many fucking people.
[01:51:56] Bryan Goodwin:
There's always a certain time audit. You see half the town go, whack. Oh, son of a bitch. What the hell?
[01:52:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. And and I will always laugh and I find it absolutely hilarious. And I don't know why. I just fucking find it hilarious when somebody gets hit in the fucking head with, like, oh, a basketball or a fucking it doesn't matter. When somebody gets macked in the head, it just is fucking hilarious to me. You know, with somebody getting smacked in the back of the head, man, I just fucking that's hilarious. I don't know why, but that is fucking hilarious. One of those, man, it sucks to be you type things. Exactly. Yeah. Funny.
Funny as hell.
[01:52:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I I, I had chuckle if that happens because I'm thinking, damn. I'm glad I'm I'm glad I wasn't in the way. You know? Yeah. It happened to me.
[01:53:01] Duuude-Ron :
Or when that grizzly bear gets hit in the fucking nuts with the fucking,
[01:53:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Called with the bungee cord. Yeah. I'm like the bison cord.
[01:53:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. That's funny too.
[01:53:24] Rich Chelson:
Did I tell y'all about the, the, 10 meter single sideband contest I worked in in December?
[01:53:32] Duuude-Ron :
Nope. Well, you you mentioned it, but what is there been an outcome?
[01:53:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, in fact, let me look on that, but I I I got I got something else I can, while I look this up. I can look and see where I placed. But, now what I did is I don't wanna upload my logs. Damn it. Already did that. I I wound up with 16,240 points. That that was my raw score. And I think I had a 140 contacts, which is pretty cool. And then, I just do it this way. But, anyway, what I did was after that, I, I wrote down all the contests for this year that that I plan to enter. And the and the, first one is not, is not really is not due till March.
So I've got I've got some time off to prepare. Yeah. On March 1st 2nd is the international DX phone, single sideband voice. That's gonna be a big one because everybody in the world is gonna be on that one. And then there's there's others, spread throughout the year. So, yeah, that's what I want. So, yeah, that's that's,
[01:55:27] Duuude-Ron :
Whole bunch of people gonna be stepping all over each other?
[01:55:30] Rich Chelson:
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's right. I ain't gonna lie. It's it I tell you what, it was it was, it was, crazy. The 10 meter was was crazy. I got a lot of, DX. It was cool. I mean, Yeah. I got see, I got to, country, Kalengrad. I had never heard of that country.
[01:56:03] Duuude-Ron :
But,
[01:56:05] Rich Chelson:
I had gotten, I had gotten, Yeah. That's what I'm looking for. Trying to do 2 things at once. Talk and,
[01:56:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We we can we can we can tell.
[01:56:21] Rich Chelson:
Find the contest. Squirrel. Well, see see, I gotta somewhat pay attention because I gotta find I'm I'm on a contest, but I gotta find, single operator, phone only. Low power. Yeah. That's me. That's that's what I was in. See, I wish I could look by my call sign, but I wanna see. Yeah. I guess, hang on. I can go by scores because well, I did make the top 100. I can tell you that. See.
[01:57:05] Bryan Goodwin:
It was rigged.
[01:57:06] Rich Chelson:
I know, right? Motherfucking slacker. Number 1 number 126.
[01:57:13] Bryan Goodwin:
That's so bad out of how many?
[01:57:16] Rich Chelson:
Well, just in my class. Hang on. Let me get to the last page. 126 out of 583 in my class.
[01:57:26] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what that gets you? What? One of those 3 inch plastic gold plated trophies.
[01:57:36] Rich Chelson:
3. What is that?
[01:57:40] Duuude-Ron :
Or is that or was that just reserved for the top 100?
[01:57:44] Rich Chelson:
I think that was reserved for the top 100, dude.
[01:57:49] Duuude-Ron :
So you get a 1 inch plastic, non gold plated trophy that says loser.
[01:57:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. I gotta say, honestly, I I mean, I I thought I did pretty good. You know, I was I was actually kinda surprised. Oh, I know it's there. I'm trying to see, if I can find it in my Sure. It's for my call sign area, which is
[01:58:31] Duuude-Ron :
Dickhead 12? Dickhead 12?
[01:58:36] Rich Chelson:
Dickhead 12.
[01:58:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Isn't that your call sign?
[01:58:40] Rich Chelson:
No.
[01:58:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, no. It's the it's the his call sign is k o c k.
[01:58:49] Rich Chelson:
No. It is nothing Nothing gets you up like the call. Lima mic. Oh, there it is.
[01:59:00] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll and and that's why I always wanted to have my if I was ever to do a radio station, that's actually what I wanted my radio station's, call sign to be, was the KOCK. Just you know? It'd have stuff like nothing gets you up in the morning like the big cock. You know?
[01:59:19] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Something tells me they wouldn't let me do that, though. No. Probably not. No. Probably not. But Can't even have a license plate like that.
[01:59:29] Rich Chelson:
Alright. Let me do something here. Chipotle. Yeah. No. The, FCC would would definitely frown upon
[01:59:43] Duuude-Ron :
that. Probably so.
[01:59:47] Rich Chelson:
Oh, crap.
[01:59:49] Duuude-Ron :
It's not. Oh, crap. Well, that might be a call sign too. Oh crap.
[01:59:57] Bryan Goodwin:
No. But I like it. I like k k r p. Yeah.
[02:00:02] Rich Chelson:
Oh, there's there's hands with, call signs that that, spell out different names, and it's it's actually pretty cool. And I can't think of them right offhand.
[02:00:19] Duuude-Ron :
Can you request a certain, call sign, or is it
[02:00:24] Rich Chelson:
Your your your, first call sign has to be issued by the FCC. The first one, you know, when you take your test and pass, you have to have been issued by the FCC. But after that, it, you know, if you think of a call sign, they've got a database. You can look Uh-huh. And see if it's being used. And if it's not being used, then yes. You can apply for it.
[02:00:54] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So So so if you applied for Peker Checker
[02:00:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We p k r c k r.
[02:01:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. Oh, there you go. There you go.
[02:01:08] Rich Chelson:
No. You wouldn't get it.
[02:01:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:01:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. Because it's it's it's normally, 5 or 5 or a 6 digit call sign at first. And then, and then, as you upgrade, like, I've got I've got what's called a 1 by 3. And, I could even go to a 2 by 2. 2 by ones are are just special event call signs, or 1 by ones are. Normally, you can have a 1 by 2 or 2 by 1 if if you have like a,
[02:01:47] Duuude-Ron :
extra Every every bit of that shit just went so far up over my head. I can't I can't even fucking put my hand up and reach it.
[02:01:59] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Hang on. I've I've got this figured out here. Okay. With the number 5 in my call sign. Okay?
[02:02:09] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:02:10] Rich Chelson:
That area, we call it 5 land. That spans Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas. Okay. And in this last contest, the the 10 meter contest, just in my call sign area, those states, I ranked number 7.
[02:02:38] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there you go. Out of 54.
[02:02:41] Rich Chelson:
Out of so there was only 54 people who operated in this contest out of the 5 call area.
[02:02:52] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:02:53] Rich Chelson:
And I ranked number 7. So that's not too bad.
[02:03:02] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there you go. I am too bad. Your trophy just got to be an inch and a half from an inch.
[02:03:11] Bryan Goodwin:
It's getting bigger, man. It's getting bigger.
[02:03:14] Duuude-Ron :
Well You know what? And it's it's still bigger than this pecker.
[02:03:18] Rich Chelson:
Yes. It is, by God. But but now, I have realized on the next contest, I have to upgrade and, upgrade my abilities and make more contacts because the the the distance between number 6 and number 7 is 3,000 points. And then to make the top 5, I was 9,000 points away. 93100. Golly. Yeah. Yeah. That's points. That's, you know, I'm not sure about how many contacts, but that's a lot of dadgum contacts. Let's put it that way.
[02:04:03] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So how do you get points? So if you make one contact, and does it go by country or distance that you make your points?
[02:04:17] Rich Chelson:
Actually, by, yes, by country, county, grid square. Those are called multipliers. You get points for for for making the contact. You get, like, 2 points for making the contact. Okay? But, like, okay, let's say let's say it's another country, you get what's called a multiplier on top of that. And it's different it's different for every contest, and I really don't know how that works, but you get extra points for for contact in different countries because I think I think I talked to, what, 20 27 or 30 some odd countries just in that weekend alone.
[02:05:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:05:05] Rich Chelson:
So so I got I got extra points for all those different countries. Okay. And then, in in each of the states, because some states have, multiple areas, and I would get extra points for contacting that area like LAX. Because you've got LAX, you've got San Diego, you've got San Jose, you know, you've got multiple areas in California. Oregon or or Washington, you've got Eastern and Western Washington. Canada, you've got shit. Nova Scot. Each of the provinces. Oh. You know, British Columbia, Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island is Correct. So, I mean, you can get extra points besides just making the contact. So that's what that's what boosts your score up.
[02:06:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[02:06:12] Rich Chelson:
And so and some of the contests like like this one here, this one ran, 48 hours. So and and they've gone and put limits on on a lot of them saying, you know, you you can work the whole 48 hours, but only the first 30 hours will count. Because, basically, what they want want people to do is sleep.
[02:06:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:06:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[02:06:50] Rich Chelson:
You know, I mean I mean I mean, some of the old men, they'll say, fuck it. I'm out. I'm going to bed, you know. But but there are serious protesters. They will stay up from the time it starts till the time it finishes, barely taking a break to piss and maybe grab a sandwich, and they will stay on that radio the whole time. And that's not healthy.
[02:07:17] Duuude-Ron :
No. And what okay. What did first place win?
[02:07:23] Rich Chelson:
Bragging rights. And a and a and a I think a plaque or a certificate is all. Wow.
[02:07:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's great. I got fucking I don't know how many and it's not ham. Military certificates, awards, and all that other shit sitting in a fucking 3 ring binder.
[02:07:46] Rich Chelson:
Right? But but see, that's the thing. Hams don't really do it to I mean, some people do, yes, because that's how some people are built. They have to win no matter what. You know what I mean? So so so they will go above and beyond, and they will do everything they can to ensure it knowing that they might not win. Okay? Because in a contest, you don't ever know what the other person has for contacts or for or for a score. Yeah. And you've got different classes, you know, and stuff like this. And so, you know, it's just you just go make as many as you can. And if you win, cool. If you don't, okay. Well, step your game up next time or, you know, be happy with what you get.
And Yeah. See this thing, ham radio, that's where I'm not really that competitive in it. I mean, yes. Do I wanna break into the top 5? Yes. I do. That would be, like, really cool. You know, if I ever hit number 1 in a my call area or in a contest, that would be great. But, again, it's not gonna change the way I live. You know? So I don't know. It's I mean, for me, I I just think differently.
[02:09:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I will give you that 100%. But
[02:09:21] Rich Chelson:
I just I just enjoy doing it because, say, a lot of times during a contest too, you will hear countries or or different parts of the world that you normally don't hear on a regular day to day basis, you know. But Yeah. When it's contest time, and oh my god, some of these stations, they talk so fast. Think of think of the fastest person you know who can talk as fast and then double it. These people talk so fast that I've gotta sit and listen to them for 5 minutes before I can figure out their call sign sometimes.
[02:10:04] Duuude-Ron :
What they said 5 minutes ago? Right.
[02:10:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because I mean, you know, I mean, shit. Like like, well, you've talked to Breezy. You know how fast Breezy talks?
[02:10:17] Bryan Goodwin:
You know, I've really never had a conversation. Excited? Yeah. About a 1000 miles an hour.
[02:10:23] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Times that by 2, Brian. Seriously. He's a motherfucker. And and once I get him, you know, you know, once once I get their call sign, I'm fine because that's the main thing I need, you know. And different contests, we have to exchange different information. So once I find out their call sign and most of their information, I can fill the blanks in. You know what I mean? Ah, okay. So so so so I'll sit and listen to them, get most all the information I need, and then I'll contact them, get them. And then, normally, all I need from them is a, serial number.
Like, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 100, 500, whatever. And so yeah. But, yeah, that's that's how I do it. And that's probably why I I don't get too high of scores is because I take so much time. And also, I've learned in, contests, in a few contests that I've ran, a lot of people don't get Mississippi because Uh-huh. There's only maybe a couple people operating the contest in Mississippi. Because, like like, on this last one, in an in a November
[02:11:53] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:11:55] Rich Chelson:
Quite a few people that that I told them I was in Mississippi. They're like, Mike Sierra? I said, yeah. And they're like, no. Are you sure is it Mike Sierra? I said, yes. They're like, oh my god. I've been wanting that one. You know, I mean I mean, these guys are like, holy shit. I just got Mississippi from from wherever they're at, you know. So, yeah, apparently, I don't think many people, do ham radio contest in Mississippi. Uh-huh. One guy does. I do know that. 1 guy does. And I don't know his call, but, yeah. He does. But, yeah, a lot of people don't I don't know why, but they don't get Mississippi. When they find out where I'm at, they're like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Cool. I need a Mississippi. Like like, one guy I talked to was it, Greece or no. Spain.
Southern southern tip of Spain. Malaga is is where he lives. Told him I was in I was in Mississippi, and he was ecstatic. He was like, hey. He he, you know, confirmed with me a couple of times. I'm like, yes, sir. He's like, oh, that's cool. I've been trying to get all the states, you know, because,
[02:13:18] Duuude-Ron :
you know Yeah. They probably they probably got a thing like, the people that have RVs that collect all the states that they've been into, little stickers. Yeah. That's an option. Probably for them, it's like, okay. This is a goal, you know, I want to have, you know,
[02:13:37] Rich Chelson:
the Well, please go ahead. Colored in. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. You're right. Believe it or not, trying to get all 50 states in the United States is a challenge because trying to talk to someone in Mississippi when you're in Mississippi, it's it's it's it's damn near impossible. I haven't even done it. Why? Why? Because Why? Why? Let me explain real quick. Okay? On on HF frequencies, the signals bounce out too far. It's not HF is not good for local communications unless No. It over it overshoots it, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Unless you're running like like an o e 254. Uh-huh. If, I could build an o e 254 for HF frequencies.
Yes. I could get another ham station in Mississippi because that is that is designed for short range communications about 60 to a 100 miles. Okay? Right. Now but my little 41 foot wire that's hanging up out in the air, it it overshoots the whole state of Mississippi by far. And Wow. And even Alabama. I overshoot Alabama. Once in a while, I can hear Louisiana. Arkansas, I can barely get them. Once in a while, I get Arkansas. Even Missouri. You know? Now my my signal shoots, like, way up north. I can get Florida. I can get the eastern side of Florida a lot of times. But, yeah, normally, that from here where I'm at, yeah, I shoot everything.
But, yeah, that's that's a goal. That's a common goal Hans go after is worked all states, and then there's worked all counties because there's over 3,077 counties in the US. So that's an award for someone to work towards, and that's that's a challenge. I ain't even nowhere close to work in all counties yet.
[02:15:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Mark, where?
[02:16:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think in states, I think I've got, well, I've got Mississippi. I know that. I think I gotta double check, but, I think I've got one more state. I think I'm waiting on confirmation from Hawaii. I've worked I've worked Hawaii a couple times. In fact, on that last contest, I had worked Hawaii. That was cool. But yeah. No. It's it I I mean, man, it's just fun. I've got a I've got a 41 foot piece of wire. One ends up 33 feet, and the other ends up off the ground about 7 feet. And I talk all over the fucking world with it. I love it on a 100 watts.
[02:16:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh.
[02:16:53] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm. I'm sorry. I get I get I get so excited.
[02:17:03] Bryan Goodwin:
You really get man.
[02:17:05] Rich Chelson:
I just
[02:17:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I bet your pickers all all kinds of an inch and 3 quarters now. Yeah. By God. I didn't wanna think that.
[02:17:16] Bryan Goodwin:
All kinds of,
[02:17:18] Duuude-Ron :
you know, got your dick hard.
[02:17:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh. So excited. I mean, think about it, though. Sitting here at my house with my small, modest little setup And I'm talking to Greece. I'm talking to Italy, Switzerland. You know? Just Spain, Portugal, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Barbados, Saint Martin, Belize. And then and then, of course, Canada and all over the United States. It's it's just it's amazing to me still. And I've been doing this 17 years. Well well, starting 18. As of February 14th, 2007. Valentine's Day. 2007 was when I first got licensed.
[02:18:17] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[02:18:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Seriously. I was actually still married at the time. Wasn't married much longer after that because it was like the end of April, and me and my second wife got separated. But it was her choice, not mine. It was her choice. And so yeah. But, yeah, February 14th of 2017. Yeah. Or no. No. 2007.
[02:19:01] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know what Make up your mind.
[02:19:04] Bryan Goodwin:
2007. Make up your mind.
[02:19:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Back then, I was running cross country. I was running from, New York to LA. Oh, I love that. Oh, god. I loved it.
[02:19:21] Duuude-Ron :
That was fun. Yeah. Thank you.
[02:19:24] Rich Chelson:
Aw, dude, man.
[02:19:25] Duuude-Ron :
I'll just I'll just stick to my, you know, my daily little route and, you know, go from there. Do my do my 8 hours or 10 or today was 12. And, you know, come home and go to bed and get up and rinse and repeat. I know. I'm just a fucking creature of habit. Work, home, work, home. Walmart, home. Work, home. I know. I'm just a boring motherfucker. I can only imagine what the listeners. It's like, man, this guy is fucking a boring fucker. Got got no goddamn life. He doesn't play ham sandwich. You know, he doesn't do shit. He doesn't even wheel no more. No. I had yep. It's been quite some time.
Patrick keeps asking me, that's about every week. When the fuck are we gonna go wheeling? Well, eventually. Eventually. I just you know, everything else going on in my world has just kinda lost the fucking, you know, just kinda lost that motivation. Yeah. It's like, you know, it there's right now, yeah, to go out and go wheeling is just not enjoying.
[02:21:14] Rich Chelson:
But but you see the thing is, though, how do you know because you haven't been?
[02:21:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. I know. I mean, honestly And my and my neighbor, great guy. As a matter of fact, that's the only Christmas present I got was from him, and he bought me some d rings for the front of my Jeep that is almost color coded to the purple that I have on the rest of my accents for my Jeep. Oh, that's cool, dude. He bought me a set of, d rings. And when he said, you know, I'm gonna get you something for Christmas. I'm like, why the fuck are you gonna get me anything for Christmas? He's like, because I can and I like you. And he
[02:21:57] Rich Chelson:
and I'm like like, really? What the fuck did I do to make you like me, man?
[02:22:03] Duuude-Ron :
Well, and we get along pretty good. He's probably, oh, I could almost be his dad.
[02:22:11] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:22:13] Duuude-Ron :
Age wise, he's in his, oh, thick, late mid thirties.
[02:22:21] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:22:22] Duuude-Ron :
So, yeah, I could be his dad. But, you know, he's wanting to go out wheeling with me. I'm like, well, next time, I go out wheeling, you'll definitely be, hanging out with me. So Patrick keeps bugging me, where we gonna go wheeling? Like, fuck. I don't know.
[02:22:40] Rich Chelson:
There you go. You've you've got someone to hang with. Yeah. You know, besides Patrick, I mean, you know, I mean, yeah, Patrick would love it too, but, you know, you've got someone else that you could teach you could teach them the right way to wheel.
[02:23:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yes. Well, he has had not a Jeep, but he has had off we off road vehicles that he's had in his lifetime. So he's been wheeling. He just wants to he hasn't been, you know, gone out wheeling himself, and he, you know, he said it's probably been close to a decade of the last time he had a vehicle that could do that, and he was out in Mexico. Why?
[02:23:34] Rich Chelson:
You ain't on the trail. Why? Dude, y'all go out and have some fun, man. Grab Patrick and just fucking make a day of it, dude. Make some sandwiches.
[02:23:50] Duuude-Ron :
Sammages.
[02:23:51] Rich Chelson:
Sammages, dude. Seriously, make some sandwiches, put some drinks in the cooler, and get busy with it.
[02:24:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. One day. I'll get motivated again.
[02:24:10] Rich Chelson:
Well, let you know, let's let's hope, dude, because because I do I I might not say it, but I I do worry about you like this because I know. I know you do. I I've known I've known I've known other people to basically, you know, you know, do what you've done, you know, other than me. And they've they've ran all their friends off, and they have no one to hang out with, no one to talk to, and everything like this because they think like you do. And it's like Yeah. It's like, no. Get out of this, man. Get out of this. You you you have been in this funk too fucking long.
[02:24:56] Bryan Goodwin:
I agree.
[02:24:58] Rich Chelson:
So, I mean Yeah. Just say fuck it and get out of it. Yeah. You have to, man. Because if you don't, you're gonna wind up like me, like I was before I moved and just said fuck it and just drove south until I couldn't drive south.
[02:25:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:25:16] Rich Chelson:
I mean, seriously, you knew how I was then.
[02:25:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:25:22] Rich Chelson:
You know, I mean, I I just I just had to say fuck it and drive.
[02:25:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:25:31] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So Yeah. I gotcha.
[02:25:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Ouch. So when are you gonna act on it?
[02:25:48] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. I'll have to get with Patrick to find out when he's got a free weekend.
[02:25:54] Rich Chelson:
You'll be wheeling Saturday. Patrick be like, fuck it, dude. We're out. Oh, shit.
[02:26:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Whenever he's not on call. Because he's on call 2 weekends and then off a weekend, then 2 weekends, he's back on call and then off a weekend. So that's basically how they're running with where he works at.
[02:26:28] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, text him or call him and say, dude, you on call? He's like, yeah. But next weekend, I'm off. Then you're set, dude.
[02:26:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:26:40] Rich Chelson:
You know? Hell, yeah.
[02:26:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because my my neighbor is just like he's biting it. He's just gnawing at the reins to when the fuck are we gonna go? Well, that's When the hell we gotta go wheeling?
[02:27:01] Rich Chelson:
Get a hold of Patrick and find out, and then you can tell him. And, you know, tell your neighbor ahead of time so he can make sure he's off if unless he's not off every weekend. Yeah. He's off every weekend. Oh, okay. And just tell him, alright, dude. We're rolling out at 07 or 6. Yeah. You know?
[02:27:27] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. I have to put that in the books for possibly a weekend. Let's see what this calendar say. Do to do. Let me look at the calendar. Weekend of 18th.
[02:27:50] Rich Chelson:
That's that's the weekend Matt and Dee are coming down here.
[02:27:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, okay.
[02:27:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm I'm on, take him to Dolphin Island into Bayou La Batre.
[02:28:06] Duuude-Ron :
There there you go. Yeah. In Dolphin Island, what? Has dolphins, or is that what it's named after or named for? Or as you said, that's just the name of the island?
[02:28:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, as far as I know, that's just the name of the island, dolphin, d a u p h I n. I mean, there's there's dolphins all over the gulf. And, I mean, right up close and everything. So but, Dolphin Island is, back back during the civil war, Fort Gaines was a Confederate, fort on this island. And they had big cannons, and they would shoot and and repel the Union Army's Navy because Okay. Dolphin Island is at the entrance of the bay going up into Mobile.
[02:29:02] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:29:03] Rich Chelson:
And and it's, it's it's it's like, I don't know, 20 or 30 miles stretch from Dolphin Island up to Mobile by waterway. And so Fort Gaines was was built there. And it's still standing. It's a it's a, terrace place.
[02:29:21] Duuude-Ron :
Right? Okay. And I can't remember what the name there was an island at the beginning of the, Mississippi River that was the same thing for the union held it for, traffic going up into the, going north in the Mississippi. But I don't remember I don't remember the name of it. Okay. Well, here. Hang on. But, yeah, there's a lot of, you know, going in inland waterways. It, yeah, had, civil war forts to control that waterway. Yeah. Right. Mhmm. Well, there's,
[02:30:02] Rich Chelson:
I've heard I haven't I haven't I haven't been out there yet because there is a cruise.
[02:30:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. The river cruise?
[02:30:13] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. No. No. No. This cruise goes from Gulfport out to this one island, and there's there's a remains of an old fort. I'm not sure if it was Union or Confederate, but what they do is, take you out there. Well, there's one, Fort Massachusetts, which is out on, say, what is that? Is that Horn Island? No. That's ship island. There's another fort there that that kinda covered the, Gulf Coast. See, I I see, I think that fort is on Cat Island. I'm not sure. But this this, company leaves Gulfport, takes you out to this island, drops you off, and they leave and you can stay out there all day and hang out.
Uh-huh. And then they'll they'll, they'll come back and pick you up. And that's that's all on the, Mississippi side.
[02:31:32] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:31:34] Rich Chelson:
But let me see where.
[02:31:39] Duuude-Ron :
You know, one thing one thing on my bucket list Mhmm. Is to go on that, they have that riverboat cruise Mhmm. That's that starts down in the wherever the gulf comes in for the Mississippi River and goes all the way up to what is it, Illinois?
[02:32:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, it goes farther than that, dude. I think it goes into Iowa, if I remember right. North of Hannibal.
[02:32:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But that cruise, you know, to do that riverboat cruise, that's a bucket list. Same way with, driving the, Appalachian Trail.
[02:32:29] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:32:32] Duuude-Ron :
I would I wouldn't, hike the Appalachian Trail. No. Thank you. I'll drive it, but I ain't gonna hike it. There's a lady that, she was in her seventies that hiked the whole Appalachian Trail. 1,300 and somewhat miles. Good for her. Yep. Very happy. Took her, what did they say? Took her, like, 8 months to do that?
[02:33:12] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I believe it.
[02:33:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because she she was a retired, I think it was a history teacher, and that was her major bucket list. And it's like she was retired, didn't have a timeline. Just out for a stroll on the Appalachian Trail for 1,300 plus miles.
[02:33:36] Rich Chelson:
That's the way to do it.
[02:33:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. You're right.
[02:33:40] Rich Chelson:
I mean, seriously, that's that's the way to do anything. Don't have a timeline. Just do it at your pace when you want and how you want, and you're good. Yep. Okay. Let's see. The end of the Mississippi River where it goes into the gulf. Yeah. It's it's at the southernmost point, and it's south of pilot town, pilot town, Louisiana. And that's probably 75 miles south of New Orleans. Well, here, I can measure it. I forget Google Maps has a measuring tool.
[02:34:44] Duuude-Ron :
I don't even know what the hell we're I don't even remember what the hell we're
[02:34:50] Rich Chelson:
That's close. Yeah? Yeah. About, yeah, about 75 miles south of New Orleans. Mississippi River comes out into the Gulf of Mexico. Now I don't think that's I don't think that's where the trip starts because there ain't nothing out there in, pilotstown.
[02:35:14] Duuude-Ron :
I Yeah. I I don't remember. I don't remember where it started at. But it goes all the way up to almost the, you know, north side of the United States is where the, where it ends.
[02:35:30] Rich Chelson:
Well, the headwaters is in, Minnesota. Lake Itasca, Minnesota.
[02:35:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's where the that's where it goes up to or close to that.
[02:35:41] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:35:45] Duuude-Ron :
So I think that's like a it's like a 2 week trip. See? And if I if I did it, it's like I go up and back. There you go. Just because I ain't fly I ain't fucking going all the way up and then flying back. It's like, shit. I'll just fucking turn the boat around, and I'll just hang out and, you know, come back down.
[02:36:12] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. There's I mean, that's the way to do it, dude. Figure out figure out figure out, figure out how much it costs and, you know, go for it.
[02:36:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:36:40] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[02:36:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know.
[02:36:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. What'd you find? Mississippi River?
[02:36:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's a state. I remember it. No. The Mississippi River. Oh, river out there. So Mississippi River. Remember?
[02:37:02] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Stretching for 2,350 miles from from, say, Minnesota's Lake Itasca to the Gulf of Mexico, Viking Cruises actually offers a trip down the mighty Mississippi.
[02:37:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Shit.
[02:37:27] Rich Chelson:
They're expensive.
[02:37:30] Duuude-Ron :
No. I believe it. Saint
[02:37:33] Rich Chelson:
New Orleans, Louisiana or Saint Paul, Minnesota to New Orleans, Louisiana, $12,000.
[02:37:43] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I guess I ain't got that. I guess I ain't gonna be scratching that one off my bucket list anytime soon.
[02:37:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh my gosh. That's with Viking. I mean I mean, you see, that's the thing. That's that's just with 1. They've got I know I know they've got, others. You know, I don't know if all of them are the same price, but that was with Viking. Yeah. $12,000 to go from so, yeah, it would cost 24,000 to go round trip.
[02:38:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. You know, yeah. And, actually, what would be the kicker out of that is to actually, do that cruise on one of the, big wheel, steamships. That would be cool. Yeah. It would. Now that would be cool.
[02:38:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:38:41] Duuude-Ron :
But I don't think there's too many of those hanging around anymore.
[02:38:46] Rich Chelson:
They got a few New Orleans that, run run the Mississippi River up and down. 1 Yeah. Yeah. There's still some paddle boats. True. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One is still, one's called the Creole Queen out of New Orleans.
[02:39:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. That would be now that one would be a fun one to do.
[02:39:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. That one. Yeah. That that's still going.
[02:39:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it may not go it may not go all the way up to freaking Minnesota, but, you know, just to do that paddle boat, that would be, yeah, that'd be fun.
[02:39:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I don't think they would go that far north. But, like, let's say they've got they've got a historic cruise, and they, go by the French Quarter, the port of New Orleans, Jean Lafitte National Historic Park and Preserve. And, they have different stuff there. What's doesn't say. It's a full day. Yeah. Well, they even serve lunch, man.
[02:40:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Adult Well, at least they serve lunch. I mean, come on.
[02:40:11] Rich Chelson:
Well, it starts at 10 o'clock. Okay. So 10 o'clock and it gets back at 4:30. So it's actually a long fucking day and, $67. So Oh. Yeah. That's actually not too bad. That is not bad at all. And you can ride a paddle wheeler.
[02:40:40] Duuude-Ron :
That's cool. I just keep thinking that I do I keep thinking about that price that you just threw out. $12,000
[02:40:49] Rich Chelson:
Jesus.
[02:40:50] Bryan Goodwin:
You go from the very tippy top to the very bitty bottom. Yeah.
[02:40:55] Rich Chelson:
But you say again, that's on Viking.
[02:40:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, Viking's the most expensive cruise liner out there.
[02:41:03] Rich Chelson:
And, see, that's the thing. I didn't know I didn't know any of the big names, you know, like, you know, because Viking's a big cruise name. You know? I didn't I didn't think they, you know, did a miss you know, Mississippi cruise. I I didn't think they would be, bothered
[02:41:25] Duuude-Ron :
with the small crews like that, you know. Yeah. Because they they run a lot of riverboats in, Germany, the Rhine River into Switzerland, all that kind of stuff.
[02:41:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. But I didn't think they would come over here.
[02:41:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I guess we, have been informed now. Yeah.
[02:41:51] Bryan Goodwin:
And now we Informed differently now. Half the battle. Yeah. Joe. That's right. Yeah.
[02:41:58] Duuude-Ron :
Joe. Exactly.
[02:42:00] Rich Chelson:
Now say in say in that's the now I ain't got none. There ain't no way I got $12,000.
[02:42:07] Duuude-Ron :
No.
[02:42:08] Rich Chelson:
You know, if I had $12,000 to kill, I would I would love to, take a a run like that. That would be so cool.
[02:42:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:42:22] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[02:42:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's one of those debates. If I had $12,000, let's see a river run, run the Appalachian Trail. Yeah. That's definitely one of those.
[02:42:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, dude, think about it. It wouldn't cost you no $12,000 to to drive the Appalachian Trail, Not even near it.
[02:42:52] Duuude-Ron :
Well, gas, hotel, souvenirs. You know?
[02:42:57] Rich Chelson:
Okay. At the most, $2,000.
[02:43:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:43:02] Rich Chelson:
I mean, seriously, at the most. I mean, you you know, it it it you see, that's the thing. Running and and I had learned this myself. It it doesn't really cost that much to, you know, do things.
[02:43:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:43:23] Rich Chelson:
You know, once you break it down, it doesn't, you know, it's like, wow. I'm like, really? Is it that fucking cheap? Yeah. It is. Ugh. It's just it's just our it's it's just our thoughts on it is what is what makes us not not do that.
[02:43:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Just what? Limits us. Yeah.
[02:43:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So that's why I'm like I'm like, yeah. That's yeah. I hate to say it, but, yeah, that that, that trip on Viking from Saint Paul to New Orleans, takes 15 days. And, yeah, they want 12, $13,000. Yeah. So and Viking wants 55100 to go from New Orleans to Memphis, 12 days. Dang. I could drive Nollins to Memphis in about 5 hours. 6, maybe.
[02:44:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[02:44:36] Duuude-Ron :
So is that up and back on that one or is it just one way?
[02:44:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, 12 days on, I because it's not that far. I I think that'd be up and back. Probably. So hang on. Let me look. Because, yeah, New Orleans to Memphis isn't far, man.
[02:45:05] Duuude-Ron :
But you also gotta remember, traveling on the road doing 75 versus traveling down the river doing
[02:45:13] Bryan Goodwin:
25.
[02:45:15] Rich Chelson:
If if that.
[02:45:17] Duuude-Ron :
If that. If you're lucky.
[02:45:19] Rich Chelson:
Right?
[02:45:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:45:23] Rich Chelson:
See, I don't you see, that's the thing. I don't know. Oh, wait. Here it is. Okay. It says, yeah. You start in Nollins, Louisiana. It no. They take 12 days to go to Memphis, Tennessee.
[02:45:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh.
[02:45:43] Rich Chelson:
Literally. Nollins. Nollins. Nollins. Darrow, Louisiana. Baton Rouge, Saint Francisville, Natchez, Mississippi, Vicksburg, Mississippi, Greenville, Rosedale, Mississippi, Memphis, Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee. So they take 12 days to go one way.
[02:46:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Because they're gonna dock in a big hurry then, are they?
[02:46:08] Rich Chelson:
Damn. Because they're 25.
[02:46:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, they're gonna they're gonna dock every night.
[02:46:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. Yeah. They can't run on the river at night. Yep. Yeah. You know? Not the Mississippi, but still, that's I mean, but that one there is 54100.
[02:46:34] Duuude-Ron :
Wow.
[02:46:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:46:38] Duuude-Ron :
But Well, alrighty then.
[02:46:41] Rich Chelson:
Hey. Something to shoot for, dude. Goals, man. Goals. Yep. Something to shoot for.
[02:46:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when I win the lottery this weekend, I'll, we'll take that trip.
[02:46:53] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Okay. I'll be holding you to it.
[02:46:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I trust me. If I will if I won a lottery, we you and I would be, yeah, we'd hit a couple places.
[02:47:06] Rich Chelson:
Dude, that would be fucking cool. Riding on a riverboat? Oh my god. That would be and riding up to Mysip? Oh, shit, dude. That's just oh, man. That would be awesome.
[02:47:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Or better yet, winning the lottery, say it's 500,000 after everything. Okay. $200,000. Yeah. I'd charter a fucking paddle boat.
[02:47:41] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool.
[02:47:42] Duuude-Ron :
You and me have the whole damn fucking paddle boat all to ourselves.
[02:47:49] Rich Chelson:
Who's driving? Me or you?
[02:47:52] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I think I think the owner of the paddle boat would want to have their own pilot.
[02:48:00] Rich Chelson:
Dang it. I was trying. Dang it.
[02:48:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, hey, that would definitely be, you know, that would be a blast.
[02:48:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It would. Yes. It would.
[02:48:17] Duuude-Ron :
And then as soon as we get done with that, we fucking head over to the Appalachian Trail.
[02:48:22] Rich Chelson:
That would be cool. Yep. That would be freaking cool.
[02:48:28] Duuude-Ron :
In the summertime. Yes. Because I ain't I ain't fucking hitting that northern aspect up there in the fucking, you know, Massachusetts and Vermont and all that shit in the wintertime. No fucking way.
[02:48:43] Rich Chelson:
That would not be conducive to my my my comfort level.
[02:48:49] Duuude-Ron :
No. Hell no. Too fucking cold. Yeah. Too much fucking snow on the ground. Fuck that.
[02:48:57] Rich Chelson:
Besides, if I went up there in the wintertime, Dusty would be on my ass to be at Barn the next year. He'd be like, motherfucker, if you can go up there in the cold, you can come up to Des Moines to be able to watch me race.
[02:49:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right. Oh, I know. Yeah. I ain't doing it in the wintertime because it's too fucking cold. Yeah. He's still to the degree. Come up and watch him race. Oh, I know he does. Yeah. And what'd you tell him?
[02:49:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Fuck no.
[02:49:28] Duuude-Ron :
Not just not just hell no, but hell to the fuck no.
[02:49:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. He just sent me a picture. He just sent me a picture of of snow up there that it just snowed a couple inches up there, and I just in all caps, oh, hell no. I told him I'll hell no. That was all I said. Screw that. Up in Iowa. Is the airport? Up. Yeah. No. That is not Thank you. Conducive to my to my health. Ew. It is not.
[02:50:06] Duuude-Ron :
Nope.
[02:50:09] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. He would love it. I know he would, but and he'll keep asking me too because this next week, like like, when it's 31 down here next week, it's supposed to be, like, freaking blow 0 up there. And he's still like, oh, come on. It's not that bad. No, dude. Kiss my ass, man. Supposed to snow 4 inches next week. Yeah. No. In barns next weekend. So it's the 8th or 10th to 12th, I think. 10th and 11th.
[02:50:48] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[02:50:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shit. Friday Saturday. Yeah. It's not this weekend. It's next weekend. Next weekend. Alright. Next weekend. Yep.
[02:51:00] Duuude-Ron :
Hell, yeah. I'm sure you'll make it. I'm sure you'll make it. Make it. What the fuck? Soon that
[02:51:12] Bryan Goodwin:
eventually one day in the near future in the distant past.
[02:51:18] Rich Chelson:
No. Cause they run barn in January. Oh, wow. These are idiots out Eventually, you'll run into a barn.
[02:51:28] Bryan Goodwin:
You run through a barn, you'll fly through a barn.
[02:51:32] Rich Chelson:
No. It's it's a battle of the barn. It's it's it's a big go kart race. Yeah. Yeah. It's your Yeah. The go kart your your nephew likes to run. Yeah. And and and everything don't. Why they choose It's Ellen.
[02:51:46] Bryan Goodwin:
January. I don't know. No. It's Because it's too damn cold to be outside.
[02:51:51] Rich Chelson:
It's too damn cold in that building, dude. There's no there's no real heat in that building. And then you You need to get more people in there. You get enough people in there, it'll be nice and toasty. Well, if you could. Yeah.
[02:52:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Just tell him you Most people are going, fuck no. It's goddamn cold. I'm not going in there.
[02:52:09] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Oh, bitch. Yeah. 15 minutes ago. Going to. Tell him that you're gonna disincline to acquiesce his request.
[02:52:21] Rich Chelson:
That'll really blow his mind. He'll be like, what the fuck you talking about?
[02:52:27] Duuude-Ron :
We're but humble pirates. Well, I will disincline to ask we ask your request. That means no.
[02:52:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. But but, yeah, he'd be like, what the hell did you say?
[02:52:42] Duuude-Ron :
You you really should do it. If he, you know, bugs you another time, you should really respond with that and see what his response is to that statement.
[02:52:56] Rich Chelson:
I will. If I think of it, I definitely will. Alright. Definitely will because, yeah, that would hey. He might get it, but I kinda doubt it. But it would be it would be so funny.
[02:53:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, if you ain't seen Pirates of the Caribbean, you would have no clue.
[02:53:17] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:53:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I disinclined to ask we ask your request.
[02:53:28] Rich Chelson:
That would be awesome. Alright.
[02:53:29] Duuude-Ron :
I think it's that time there, Brian.
[02:53:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Because I was thinking the same thing, but I would y'all were y'all were having such a good time talking, and I was having such a good time just coming up with stupid shit. So I was just keep going. So
[02:53:44] Rich Chelson:
That's what we do, man.
[02:53:46] Bryan Goodwin:
So but anyhow, alright, guys. I wanna say thank y'all very much for taking the time to listen to us. Listen to us just go on about just stupid shit. And, it's been a good time. We had a great time. We had a little bit of a break there because Christmas and and all that, and it is just we we had we had a a much needed break so that we could actually get ourselves back together. Things are fixing to change. We're fixing to have some, has, try some other stuff, see what, what we can morph and and and change and flip and flop and do anything else we possibly can to see if we can liven the show up just a little bit more. But, wanna say, guys, all of y'all who are listening, thanks so much for taking the time out of your busy day. Listening, seeing what we what we're doing, taking the, the information that we have, and just going, there's nothing I could do with this.
Because we're just as a whole, us 3 guys, we get together just so we could talk, just so we could spend time with each other and live our life intentionally with each other for a couple 3 hours each week. And this is a lot of the a lot of the things that us men need more of. This is something that we need on a very regular basis. And, yeah, we're don't you don't have to have a specific point to be talking. Now it helps if you can have a specific talk topic that you're aiming for. So you you and your friends are all, say, trying to build a better business.
Then all 3 of y'all can, help each other get better at y'all's businesses. Or you can just do like what we do and just live life in a in a for for moment where you're all in each other's, own circle of awareness. And this makes the life of each man just a little bit better, believe it or not. It's just it it allows for us to have a better life, a better time of being able to just live our our life. And so this is why this is one reason why I I stress men need to beat, with other men on a on a on a set schedule. So with that, I wanna say again one more time. We're gonna say thank you because this show is done and is produced. And the only thing we ask for is if you found any value from what we've done, then repay the value.
And this is called value for value. If we provided any value, then you can you can provide you can bring value back, and we can do that in 3 different ways. There's time. You can find ways of being able to provide some time and help us out. Talent, if you're have a specific talent like in graphics or audio design or anything like that, we'd love to have you help us out there or treasure. And this is where you can actually and any of the, podcasting 2.0 apps out there, they have a the ability to to utilize the funding tag. And with that, you can actually click the, the funding tag, the button that says support this show, and Podcast Guru, and, and I believe Fountain has got it.
But there's several other apps out there that allow you to be able to click on this, and that will bring up the, the PayPal's page, and you can actually donate, you know, a dollar, $5, a $100, a $1,000. Whatever it is you think you what type of value you have found, you can actually provide return that value to us. So you can do time, talent, or treasure. And all of them are are valid means of being able to support this show because we're right now, we're shelling out our money for this because, 1, we wanna be able to help each of our, each of our, each of these guys to have a better day. And I'm just my brain's dying on me, so I'm struggling with my words all of a sudden.
So it's it's end of the appear it's end of the day the day for me, and it is time for me to to hit the proverbial, hey. But, so yeah. My my brain is wanting to, say it's bedtime. Let's go to bed. So, guys, wanna say thank you. If there's anything that you found in this show that you liked, found funny, entertaining, laugh, cry, think, groan, whatever, share it out. Share it all on Facebook, Twitter, x, Mastodon, Blue Sky, whatever whatever app you like to use as your social media, share that with them. Let, let other people know that, 2 grumpy vets and a dude is a is a show out there that's just a little different than everything else. It is the quintessential 3 guys and one brain type of show. And so we're we're joining it ourselves. We have a good time. We laugh. We cry. We think we've grown.
We we have disagreements, and then we get, we get back together, and we keep going. And so with that, I wanna say thanks one more time for for everybody listening. And, Rich, what do you have to say?
[02:59:36] Rich Chelson:
Well, I'm I'm very glad we made it to, 2025, all 3 of us. Oh, yeah. And and that and that we all can sit here and do this and just and just be us, you know, just be men like you said, you know, and, you know, having having something to talk about and then squirreling off. And, honestly, it's the most fun for me. But I wanna thank everybody else for, listening. And, we couldn't do it without you, really. Because if we had no one listening, then, we'd just be hearing, you know, talking to hear some talk.
[03:00:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. What's the point?
[03:00:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, you know, I mean, we'd still probably do it anyway just because that's who we are, but it's all good. Anyway, just, I I can't wait till we hit our year, which will be phenomenal. That'll be that'll be totally awesome. And, you know, I enjoy I enjoy both of you. And, yeah, Brian, like you said, sometimes we get, you know, upset with each other, but we just keep going and, you know, we learn to work through it. And that's what we want other men, other people to realize. It's okay to get upset. It's okay to have disagreements. It's okay Just as long as you don't stay mad.
Right. Get over it and come back together and, you know, and, you know, stay friends. You you don't have to because Brian called me a poopy head. I don't ever wanna talk to him again. You know? I mean, come on. So but, no, that's you know, thank you for listening and help in any way you can if you want. One way, you can share it out. Share this out. Tell your friends, family, whatever, shoot someone you hate. Tell them to listen to our show, you know. You never know. They might wind up being your friend, but, you know, if y'all ever wanna send us a message, we haven't had it happen yet, but you can send me an email at rich@[email protected].
Or you can send Brian an email at, re, oh, yeah, circlecast@[email protected]. And then if you wanna send the dude an email, just send it to Brian or I, and we will make sure the dude gets it. And then we we will let him answer it in his in his flowery way of of his word selection. So so yeah. Anyway, yeah. Thank you all for listening. We enjoy doing this. We plan to keep going. So come back and listen and drop a line and say hey once in a while. So, dude, what you got, man?
[03:02:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what? Both of you guys have pretty well covered everything of what I was gonna say. So, I will end this with, I hope that everybody has a very happy New Year, and now is the start of 2025. And, you know, a lot of us, in 2024 going through a lot of issues. You know, some worse than others, but, you know, hopefully, this is a start of a brand new year, and maybe I'll be able to get some of my, New Year's. I haven't done any New Year's resolutions as of yet, but, you know, hey. It's only the 2nd day of, the new year. So but, again, everybody, thank you very much for enjoying us just as Rich said, squirreling around because, yeah, we we we can squirrel up some shit. That's for damn sure. With this with this group of guys, man, we can squirrel up some shit. So, again, thank you very much for, listening, and, happy New Year.
[03:03:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Happy New Year to everybody. Alright, guys. Y'all take care. We will catch y'all next week. Rich, dude, y'all take care. Y'all have a great rest of the week to also and we will see y'all come next Thursday till then. Bye.
[03:04:12] Rich Chelson:
Later.
[03:04:13] Duuude-Ron :
Good night.
[03:04:15] Rich Chelson:
Later. Thanks guys. Bye.
Introduction and Hosts
Heating and Insulation Woes
Gifts and Gadgets
Cybertruck Explosion and News
Conspiracy Theories and CIA
Taxes and Financial Strategies
Weather and Climate Comparisons
International Living and Cost of Living
Family Visits and Home Life
Ham Radio and Contesting
Cryptocurrency and IRS Regulations
Holiday Treats and Neighbors
Wheeling and Outdoor Adventures
Political Discussions and Representation
Ham Radio Contest Results
Travel Dreams and River Cruises
Upcoming Events and Plans
Closing Remarks and Reflections
