In this week’s candid, freewheeling hang with the Two Grumpy Vets, we riff on everything from cold season and culinary skirmishes (al dente vs. soggy noodles, cornbread the right way) to ham radio contest season—logging 155+ QSOs across the globe, multipliers, team stations, and the art of staying sharp over marathon operating sessions. We veer into cars and culture (Cybertruck camper shells, classic oddballs, off-roading mishaps), swap basic training and service stories across branches, and kick around tech tinkering—ditching Windows for Linux, GPU drivers, and the hunt for a solid contest logger. We round it out with life talk, a little civics and social commentary, and an open invite for listeners to write in, weigh in, and keep the conversation going. If you’re here for the camaraderie, the laughs, and the steady drip of practical wisdom from three friends who show up weekly to sharpen one another, you’re in the right place. Come for the banter, stay for the brotherhood—and don’t forget to send your questions, gripes, and great ideas for next time.
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Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living and having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan Rich and the Duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
Brian There we are.
[00:00:37] Duuude-Ron :
Mister Brian. Hello.
[00:00:40] Rich Chelson:
How are you? Oh, I'm doing good. Got a little suggestion going on, but other than that, I'm doing alright.
[00:00:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that sucks, man. How'd you how'd that happen?
[00:00:49] Rich Chelson:
Well, my granddaughter infected my wife, and then my wife went off and infected me. Well, how rude. I know. I know. I kept telling her that, and she's she's feigning that she's all all sorry and stuff, but, you know, I think she did it on purpose.
[00:01:06] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. She's rude.
[00:01:09] Rich Chelson:
It's just all out rude. But
[00:01:12] Duuude-Ron :
so you got fucking cold down here. Yeah. Oh my god, dude. I have been
[00:01:21] Rich Chelson:
oh, yeah. I have been I think so, but, you know, my wife is asking if if our noodles are done. We have had a comment. We've had a bite this whole week about whether a noodle whether I cook noodles long enough or not. It's all soft and squishy, so I think they're done. According to her, I'm sure I'm sure she thinks they're still wrong and crunchy.
[00:01:41] Duuude-Ron :
Well, how long do you cook noodles for? I cook them until they're al dente. Okay.
[00:01:47] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Well, they're not crunchy. They're firm. Yeah. How are you supposed to cook them?
[00:01:53] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:01:54] Rich Chelson:
Jenna likes them soggy and limp.
[00:01:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no.
[00:01:59] Rich Chelson:
No. That's just rude. She was just like, catch up.
[00:02:04] Duuude-Ron :
It's rude, I tell you. Rude.
[00:02:06] Rich Chelson:
I'm on the couch. He's already told me I'm on the couch now.
[00:02:11] Duuude-Ron :
No. That's uh-uh. No. Yeah. No.
[00:02:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think it's about top media head back to the to the trailer. The missus is getting ready to excommunicate me daily.
[00:02:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I, yeah, I I mean, I don't set a timer when I cook my noodles. I go by taste. Right. You know? But about seven, eight minutes is about Yeah. About eight minutes is what I usually
[00:02:39] Rich Chelson:
usually do. My rice is the same way.
[00:02:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Rice, I've well, I've got a rice cooker. I'll just throw it in. You know, throw the rice in, fill it with water. Right. Let it go. When it switches to warm, they're done. It's done. So I just I cheat there.
[00:02:59] Rich Chelson:
Alright.
[00:03:00] Duuude-Ron :
Man, I tell you what, I made man, I tell you what. If you ain't ever had cornbread made the proper way, if if all you could get actual,
[00:03:12] Rich Chelson:
like, actual tape corn meal itself and turn it into cornbread? Yes, sir. I've not ever done that, actually. I have never had
[00:03:20] Duuude-Ron :
I did it for the first time tonight. Oh my god. It makes Jiffy cornbread mix taste like candy.
[00:03:30] Rich Chelson:
Because that yeah. Freak Oh, yeah. No. Jiffy sticks a lot of sugar in their stuff. Oh, yeah. No. Bread, and I like sweet cornbread. I'm I'm a sweet cornbread fan. I'd
[00:03:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I mean, but but, see, making it with, I made it with cornmeal and, you know, I put I put all the ingredients in, and it only called for a quarter cup of sugar, which it didn't really sweeten it. It just it just kinda, I guess, I don't know, even the flavor out or something. Yeah. But, man, I tell you what, cornbread made from cornmeal, you ought to try that shit. That's some good stuff. Because I made, well, I made my version of ham and beans.
[00:04:14] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:04:15] Duuude-Ron :
I used smoked turkey necks, so which turned out really well, actually.
[00:04:22] Rich Chelson:
What's that? Dude. What's up, man? What's up? Well, same old, same old.
[00:04:30] Duuude-Ron :
I hear you.
[00:04:32] Unknown:
So how'd you like those memes I sent you tonight?
[00:04:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Those most of those pretty damn funny. That one about the Cybertruck from Timu, that was funny.
[00:04:44] Unknown:
Yeah. It was. That was freaking hilarious.
[00:04:49] Duuude-Ron :
That was just kinda I was just And now I
[00:04:53] Unknown:
yeah. It was. I was flipping through and came upon a picture, and I'm like, what the fuck? Basically, the the comment is like I don't even remember what the fuck it said. If it it could it can't get any stupider than this. They have made a cargo shell for the fucking Cybertruck.
[00:05:20] Rich Chelson:
Cargo shell for the Cybertruck. It goes over the bed like a pickup truck? A ton of walk back up. Like, is it like a grand like grandpa's, pickup used to have is the little the little cover. Yeah. Why? Well, why why the Cybertruck to begin with? I mean, but that's just that's kind of a dumb question. Sorry.
[00:05:42] Unknown:
Right. Well, it it was like the Pontiac Silhouette, the van that had the real long nose on it.
[00:05:50] Rich Chelson:
Well, not the, it was Silverado. It was at the, the Aztec.
[00:05:56] Unknown:
Well, one company had the Aztec. One company had the Silhouette. So there was two manufacturers of that same stupid ass van.
[00:06:06] Rich Chelson:
Right. Ugly as sin.
[00:06:09] Unknown:
Right. One of my one of my team chiefs fucking had one of those and just absolutely loved it. And I'm like, yes. You're right. You there is no in between. You either love it or you hate it. There's nothing in between. In between. Right. That's like the the Gladiator, the pickup truck. You love it or you hate it. Patrick has a Gladiator. Gladiator? Yep. I can't fucking stand him. I'm still gonna go on wheel with him, but I wouldn't own one. And the same way with fucking these damn the fucking Cybertruck. You either love them or you hate them. There is no in between. And now they're making a camper shell.
Yeah. Now they're making a camper shell for the fucking Cybertrucks. I'm like, if it wasn't if it wasn't worse before, it's even fucking more ugly now.
[00:07:11] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:07:12] Unknown:
And god only knows how much one of those fucking covers cost. Right. I bet you they're a good fucking $34,000.
[00:07:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, if it's made out of stainless steel, probably. Let me look it up.
[00:07:27] Unknown:
I didn't even get that far. I saw the picture, and I'm like Oh, you just had a meltdown, dude. Yeah. Pretty much.
[00:07:35] Duuude-Ron :
I know you.
[00:07:37] Unknown:
I shook my head. I looked at the picture. I shook my head. I rolled my eyes and just said why.
[00:07:45] Rich Chelson:
Why? What are they trying to fucking do? Why? Why? I don't think that's the
[00:07:51] Duuude-Ron :
right one. See, the Cybertruck only cost oh, hang on. Maybe I put in one too many words. You can buy a Cybertruck brand new for 70,000.
[00:08:03] Unknown:
Okay. That's it. That is absolutely great. How much are the fucking accessories gonna cost you?
[00:08:10] Duuude-Ron :
Hold on. I'm trying to find out.
[00:08:14] Rich Chelson:
Well, I know some of the something like, BMW, if you want, like, these, quote, unquote, sport package, which is just a change up in the in the, in the cars on the not hardware, but the the firmware in the firmware settings, they'll actually have it where if you wanna have your BMW electric be able to go fast, you actually it is a car as a service. So you have to pay a monthly service fee of however much so you can take your car take a BMW electric car and be able to go faster in it.
[00:08:54] Unknown:
Of course. Now the accessories that I was talking about is a home charging station to fucking have your house wired for it. You know, god only knows what that runs.
[00:09:07] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it's not that hard. You just gotta run it two twenty line from, you know, from the box.
[00:09:15] Unknown:
I ain't running I ain't running shit because I'm never on one. Me? I like fossil fuels. Hell, yeah. Because nobody nobody in twenty years is going to hot rod a Cybertruck.
[00:09:37] Duuude-Ron :
Cybertruck's pretty fucking fast.
[00:09:41] Unknown:
Okay. But you know what? When you hot rod a 1929 Ford pickup truck, that look cool as all get out.
[00:09:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. We know if you hot rod a '29 Ford pickup truck, the panties come off. If you hot rod a 2025 cyber truck yeah. In twenty years. Clothes go on.
[00:10:05] Unknown:
Yeah. In twenty years, they will be an antique. Right? But will any of them survive to twenty years?
[00:10:13] Rich Chelson:
Because they're I think there'll be some that survive it by in twenty years, but they'll also end up being you know, kinda there'll be an oddity like the, the gremlin.
[00:10:25] Unknown:
Have you ever seen a tubbed out gremlin? Nope. Fucking hilarious. It's cool, but it's hilarious. There was a as a matter of fact, there was a gremlin down at, cruising the coast.
[00:10:39] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, really? That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I think hey. I think this top is not being made by Tesla.
[00:10:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't think it is. It's it's aftermarket.
[00:10:50] Duuude-Ron :
About the only number I can find is about 3,500.
[00:10:55] Unknown:
Yeah. And that's great. More power to the people that buy it. You know what? It's their money, dude. You're right. It is. More more power to the people that buy it. That's all I'm gonna say about that. So other than that, I missed out on the cooking lesson, but that's okay. I ain't gonna cook it anyway. All I heard was, cornbread out of real corn meal.
[00:11:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's some good shit.
[00:11:28] Unknown:
I believe you. I'll just do the fucking instant. One box of cornmeal, x amount of milk, and an egg. I'm good to go. That's candy.
[00:11:40] Duuude-Ron :
That's candy.
[00:11:42] Unknown:
Well, yeah, after you pour a shitload of syrup on it. Well, no. It's it's got
[00:11:48] Duuude-Ron :
dude, it's got, like, a week's worth allowance of sugar in it.
[00:11:53] Unknown:
Yeah. But the only way to fucking eat cornbread is with syrup.
[00:11:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh god. You're rude. Syrup? That's what I was saying. No.
[00:12:04] Unknown:
Pancake syrup. Yes, sir.
[00:12:07] Rich Chelson:
So what do you eat for you ain't eat any crust of them with these no go to the Mason Dixon line.
[00:12:13] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Do you actually know where the Mason Dixon line physically
[00:12:21] Duuude-Ron :
fits at? Yes, sir. I've crossed the times.
[00:12:27] Rich Chelson:
I forget exactly what the what the Latin what the longitudinal number is, but it was Oh, it is.
[00:12:35] Unknown:
Isn't it Pennsylvania and whatever state is north of it
[00:12:39] Rich Chelson:
or south of it? No. It's Virginia from Virginia down along Kentucky.
[00:12:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, actually, no. Dude was right. Mason Dixon line shows a border between Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and West Virginia. Really? Yep. Yep.
[00:12:57] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Okay. Well, it shows that I'm not all that educated.
[00:13:01] Duuude-Ron :
It was it was originally surveyed between 1763 and 1767 by Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon. Alright. The line is was established to settle a colonial border dispute and later became the symbolic dividing line between the Northern and Southern United States. Now some of them states, I don't see how they can classify as the South because Yeah. Maryland ain't southern
[00:13:35] Rich Chelson:
by me. Probably might be because it to that one, Virginia. It separates Virginia from from from Maryland. Because Maryland and Virginia are Maryland's North of Virginia.
[00:13:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But but the Mason Dixon Line separates Maryland from Pennsylvania. So it puts Maryland in the South, West Virginia, Virginia, Kentucky, on down. And then all the way out across,
[00:14:08] Rich Chelson:
it it goes I think someone's got a therapist.
[00:14:11] Duuude-Ron :
It goes on the southern side. Doesn't include Illinois. It it done it done cut them out in 1767 and went on the topside between Missouri and Iowa. Yeah. They said, fuck you, Illinois. Y'all are liberal backed in you, and they're still liberal.
[00:14:30] Rich Chelson:
But Yeah. They're liberal now.
[00:14:32] Duuude-Ron :
But, yeah, it say it says Maryland is. Yeah, it's it's a bold line. So Maryland is south of the Mason Dixon Line.
[00:14:44] Unknown:
Yep. So, yeah, even Nebraska is a southern considered a southern state.
[00:14:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't believe that.
[00:14:54] Unknown:
Neither do I because there's too much white No. I don't buy it. Yeah. Fucking air on the ground in the winter.
[00:15:02] Rich Chelson:
Fuck that. Well, there's a lot in in Tennessee too. In Kentucky, there's a lot a lot of snow there too. It's just the the South just meant that it was it was they they had
[00:15:15] Unknown:
a Down to the survey line.
[00:15:17] Rich Chelson:
Yes. They were just a I always took it as one that said south. That was the area that was approved, with, with with slavery is what I always Yeah. For yeah. Well,
[00:15:33] Unknown:
who knows? Fucking George Washington owned slaves.
[00:15:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. He was he lived in Virginia too. So
[00:15:41] Unknown:
Well sure. Okay. He did? Well, I do well, I know, but up to what point did what president not own slaves?
[00:15:53] Rich Chelson:
Oh, that's a good that's a good, I have no idea what the hell. Question.
[00:15:58] Unknown:
Yes.
[00:15:59] Rich Chelson:
Let's see. Who was the first president
[00:16:05] Duuude-Ron :
to not Several of them. John Adams,
[00:16:08] Rich Chelson:
John Quincy Adams, Millard Philanthropy. John Adams would have been the first one. James So yeah. And
[00:16:16] Duuude-Ron :
Abraham Lincoln.
[00:16:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. John Adams was the first, though. So he was the fourth.
[00:16:23] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I don't
[00:16:24] Rich Chelson:
know. Well, why not?
[00:16:26] Duuude-Ron :
Because I didn't look that up. Oh. And and it and and there's also a note here. Donald Trump is also the only living US president whose ancestors did not own slaves. According to a Reuters investigation.
[00:16:42] Unknown:
Whoever Reuters is.
[00:16:44] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I'm sure Reuters was going, he's got he's got slaves. His ancestors owned slaves, and they're like, oh, shit. No. We can't even get them on that aspect either. You know? He is about the most clearest man you ever come across. Right. Because, I mean, Trump was just they've tried everything, and nothing sticks to this dude. He is definitely the Teflon Don.
[00:17:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, one, he ain't a clear politician.
[00:17:13] Duuude-Ron :
Two, he never
[00:17:16] Unknown:
came in for the money because, hell, he had fucking Hell, he's still got a shit ton of money as it is before he ever became president. So it's never been about that.
[00:17:26] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:17:27] Unknown:
You know, it's been about trying to get shit done for the American people Right. From the fucking corrupt politicians. Yep.
[00:17:39] Rich Chelson:
And both sides have them. Oh, no. I agree. I agree. Both sides are just as, as, reliable as the as the others.
[00:17:50] Unknown:
So yeah.
[00:17:52] Duuude-Ron :
I got to say, guys. I got to say this. I've been itching to say this for over a long time.
[00:17:58] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no.
[00:17:59] Duuude-Ron :
Contest season is upon us.
[00:18:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, we jumped over into ham radio's topics. Alright. So what's going on in the in the ham radio contest world?
[00:18:11] Duuude-Ron :
That was so much fun. Oh, damn. I had fun. I got to hear stations that I hadn't heard for a year and actually talked to a lot of. I was fucked. I was all over the world. And I even I even found out there's an island. It's spelled A L A N D. Island. It's between Finland and Scotland, right, or Sweden. Either way. But it's closer to Sweden or, yeah, Sweden, but it's owned by Finland. Yeah. But I I was shocked when I I I mean, I got him, and I was like, holy shit. Where is that at? So I'm sitting there. I had to look it up because it's like I I was I was I was just excited because it's like, where the hell is this plate? And then I saw it, and I'm like, oh, hell yeah. That's cool. And I just kept going. I got Samoya. I got Australian man. I got, I got The Gambia in the contest.
Charlie five Yankee. I got him. I mean, I made a 155 contacts.
[00:19:26] Unknown:
Oh, wow.
[00:19:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I did I did actually really well. You know? But, yeah, it was just oh, man. It was just I just I just been wanting to say that. I and I got a contest coming up in two weeks. Another one, a big one. Oh, I can't wait for it either. So I I just I just had to say that. I I just I just been excited.
[00:19:53] Rich Chelson:
So who's in the running? Who's in who's in the lead so far? Who's who's in the running? Who's in the running? What do you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, we've we're in we're in the contest season, so I'm I'm assuming this must be like, like race season. So, you know, you got
[00:20:11] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it's not me. I can tell you that.
[00:20:14] Rich Chelson:
Not Delta echo echo is you know, he he's he he was so close, but, couldn't quite come to get the, get the finish. You know? And
[00:20:25] Duuude-Ron :
Well, see, that's you see, this is what this is what's hard about these contests. I won't know the results till probably,
[00:20:34] Rich Chelson:
oh, shoot, a month from now. Oh, well, that's not fun. Yeah. Well No wonder you don't hear about them on ESPN. Right. Everyone's done I forgot about them by now.
[00:20:44] Duuude-Ron :
Now you see you see, that's the thing. You know, when you got, you know, 10 or 20,000 logs that come flooding in because, well, with this contest, I had five days to get my logs in. Right. You know, when you got 10 or 20 or 30,000 logs coming at you in five days, you can't get them all checked because, like like, some of the contacts I made might wait till day five to upload theirs, and then they have to be checked with mine and everybody else's. Right. It's it, you know, takes a while to sort all that out.
[00:21:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Good point.
[00:21:25] Unknown:
So if say that individual that you made a contact with didn't submit in their logs, for you, it's like it never you never talked to them. Right? That one particular call may yeah. May not have happened.
[00:21:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:21:41] Unknown:
Okay.
[00:21:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But and and there's been times in the past when I've joined contest and and didn't submit a log. You know what I mean? So but, anymore, I tried to you know, if I if I, participate in a contest, I try at least submit my log even though I'm not gonna win, but at least the other people that are trying to win, you know, my log I've talked to you. Yeah. It'll go for them as well. So Yeah. I always always try to submit my log.
[00:22:20] Unknown:
When I'm Well, and some of those guy and I'm sure some of those guys in those contests, as soon as it starts, they have, like, five pots of coffee already brewed, you know, and they won't sleep throughout the whole contest.
[00:22:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. A lot of them. Well, like, some of your big contest stations, like Tango Italy one tango, Papa four zero whiskey, Papa three three whiskey, you know, just to name a few. They, they have multi person teams. We're talking ten, twenty guys
[00:23:01] Unknown:
that Oh, okay.
[00:23:04] Duuude-Ron :
You know, rotate time because, I mean, to sit in that seat for forty eight straight hours is damn near impossible.
[00:23:14] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah.
[00:23:15] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So and I I mean, people gotta eat and go to the bathroom at least. So, you know, this way here, they probably have it set up to where, you know you know, each person works, like, four or six hours and then takes a break, either
[00:23:34] Unknown:
granted, they Then why should they be winning if it's a team, not an individual?
[00:23:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, because it's it's it's a like a contest club. And their their scores normally go in a different category. All scores for for my category.
[00:23:54] Unknown:
Right.
[00:23:54] Duuude-Ron :
I know. So so I'm not I'm not competing against those guys because there's there's no way I could ever, you know, make the points they make.
[00:24:05] Unknown:
Oh, hell no.
[00:24:07] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So but that's, I mean, that's that's what they do. You know? They have teams of guys that, you know, they bring up and they set up, and they they work, they work to contest.
[00:24:24] Unknown:
So Well, does the team operate underneath one call sign?
[00:24:29] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[00:24:30] Unknown:
Okay. Yes. I do.
[00:24:33] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. I have, like, five or six transmitters on on different bands, or they might have a couple on the same band just on different antennas, and they'll sit there and, you know, run contacts. And then they'll swap things out after a while And then run contacts, swap things out. So Yeah. But no. It was just it was just fun. The next one is the November sweepstakes, and, that's another big one. So I'm getting set up with it. Yeah. It's I I did that one last year, and, I I can't remember how I did. I would have to look it up. Like, you were, like, just five short of winning.
[00:25:21] Rich Chelson:
If I can remember right, maybe. You said?
[00:25:27] Duuude-Ron :
I wish.
[00:25:28] Rich Chelson:
You could've just made five tenths of a of a of a contact faster.
[00:25:34] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Now yeah. That's, yeah, I totally lost my train of thought. It just dribbled right out of that ear, didn't it? Oh my god. It didn't dribble. It ran, dude.
[00:25:47] Unknown:
It fell off the tracks into the canyon.
[00:25:50] Duuude-Ron :
It did. It did. The caboose. But yeah. No. It's it it I tell you what, man. It it was it was so good to hear. It was so good to hear all those stations again. It it was like it was like, yes. Where have you been for my life? And, actually, it was a year ago. You know?
[00:26:15] Rich Chelson:
So they just they just don't ever go online again until till contest?
[00:26:20] Duuude-Ron :
Pretty much. No. Sometimes you'll hear someone jump in the contest station and, you know, make a few contacts and stuff. But, yeah, no. Normally, you don't hear them until it's contest season.
[00:26:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Well and they may be out there, but they are just not on when you're on.
[00:26:40] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Well, true. True. It's very possible. You know, they could be out there right now, and, you know, I'm not on.
[00:26:47] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[00:26:48] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So but so yeah. It's but I don't know.
[00:26:56] Unknown:
All that for I don't know.
[00:27:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See, in, last year's November sweepstakes, I had I was in in just at my call area, so I was a single operator, low power. I was number 65 out of I don't know how many. Hang on. Let me look. I was 65 out of a 106, and see where did I go? There I am. And I had 11,110 points and a 101 contacts.
[00:27:36] Unknown:
Oh, you definitely got, what, 40 more contacts just on this past contest? Yeah. Then you got me in November. So yeah. When's the last time you tightened up your guide wires?
[00:27:51] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, it's been a couple days.
[00:27:53] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:27:54] Duuude-Ron :
I gotta check them. Oh, okay. But and see and see in the November sweeps, I just I just ran for nine point four hours of of the twenty four hour contest.
[00:28:08] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:28:09] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. And the guy who won in in in five call area, he was a single operator, high power running 1,500 watts from New Mexico, and he operated twenty three point three hours and had a score of 292,400 points.
[00:28:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's So what is what equals a point?
[00:28:35] Duuude-Ron :
Contact. And then
[00:28:37] Rich Chelson:
there's So he had 200,000 contacts?
[00:28:40] Duuude-Ron :
No. He had 1,720 because he had multipliers, which are, DX stations and stuff like that, other countries, because the November sweeps is for basically North America. K. Okay? But but DX stations will try and contact us too. And that's fine because we get more points. But if if we work all 85 things, that's all the provinces in Canada, the provinces in Mexico, all The US states, and all like that, that's 85 multipliers. That's extra points. That's that's what gives you Oh, okay. So you get, like, an extra point
[00:29:32] Rich Chelson:
for or say, like, Mexico, Chihuahua County. I can't remember what the state is, in Mexico, but the the state of Chihuahua or or, Yeah. Chihuahua. So that would be a person plus an extra point or two depending on what what they've set up the, the places to be. Yeah. Oh, okay.
[00:29:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it's because yeah. Because you see because, they've got and, Canada, well, you got British Columbia, you've got Ontario, you've got, Quebec. Yeah. Quebec, Prince Edward Island, Calgary, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Northwest Territories, Newfoundland. You know, you got, like, seven or eight up there. And then in Mexico, I'm not sure how how many there are. And then you have all 50 states. So so that's where and just in my categories, single operator, low power, and a five call district out of 54, I just saw myself. I was number 23.
[00:30:48] Rich Chelson:
Well, there you go. So yeah. So you're better than half.
[00:30:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That was last year, though. We'll see we'll see what I do this year. Absolutely. I'm gonna try them better this year, of course,
[00:31:03] Rich Chelson:
because that's that's my goal. But Well, everybody weren't around there going,
[00:31:07] Unknown:
who in the heck is this this rich Chelsea dude?
[00:31:11] Rich Chelson:
Why is he taking everybody's, everybody's toys away from him?
[00:31:17] Duuude-Ron :
Because I got a good antenna. Exactly. Yeah. No. I was I, you see, I was gonna try and use my my big radio. And it's a great radio. It works great. I love it. I I trust me. I do love it. It's not a contest radio. It it does not have the receiver sensitivity that in that I have in my seven ten. I use my seven ten for that contest. Okay. So I just ran a 100 watts instead of 200, and I I still did good, I thought. So I was happy. Good. So, yeah, I just I just I just had to update everybody that contest season is upon us. Bella hates it. Oh my god. Bella hates contest season. She was running in, like like, she'd run-in two, three different times while I'm operating.
[00:32:21] Rich Chelson:
Trying Okay. If we're gonna go down, do something, dad. Come on, dad. Let's go do something. Yeah. Pretty much.
[00:32:26] Duuude-Ron :
She was trying to get me to to go outside or or do something because I was back here for so long. You know? I'm you know, I stopped, took a break, checked on her, let her outside to go potty and stuff like that. But other than that, I was back here operating, and and she'd come running in just out of the blue like, oh my god. No. No. Can't have this. You know? And I'm like and I kept telling her, honey, this is contest season.
[00:32:59] Rich Chelson:
She's like, I don't care. Well, I don't know what a contest is, but you you've been back here too much, dad.
[00:33:05] Duuude-Ron :
Right. And that's that's exactly what it is. You know? She's like,
[00:33:09] Rich Chelson:
no.
[00:33:11] Unknown:
You can't be happy with this. Here too long.
[00:33:14] Rich Chelson:
You need the sunshine. You need the sunshine on your face.
[00:33:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But it was the sun had done left us when, well, she did it during the day, but not as much because, you know so but yeah. No. She she did not like she didn't like me doing the contest.
[00:33:41] Rich Chelson:
Alright. Well, next contest comes along. Ron, you're gonna have to go over there, babysit Bella.
[00:33:47] Unknown:
Oh, we all know. We're just gonna have for a girl.
[00:33:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. Sorry, Yeah.
[00:33:58] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Because,
[00:34:00] Duuude-Ron :
well, the fifteenth through the seventeenth is my next contest in November. Okay. So in a couple weeks. Well So, yeah, that's, I'll be doing this all over again. It's just not it's just not as long. It's not Friday night through Sunday evening. It's it's Saturday afternoon to Sunday evening. Oh, and don't forget, Sunday, y'all dude gets his hour of sleep extra hour of sleep.
[00:34:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's true.
[00:34:37] Unknown:
But see, the problem is it's not beauty sleep because I'm still four or five years behind on regular sleep before I can even think about touching beauty sleep. So with that, trust me, that one hour will definitely make a difference. Hell, yeah. Because even though it you even though I get that hour, I'll get up and have my cup of coffee, my cigarette, and probably go back and taste it.
[00:35:03] Duuude-Ron :
Right? I swear.
[00:35:07] Rich Chelson:
What the
[00:35:08] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, you crack me up.
[00:35:11] Rich Chelson:
You crack me up. You're probably my damnest. Well, we now understand why he rests as much as he does, though. Because he knows that he's going over to, going over to Cruising the Coast sometime, and he's gotta go over there and wear your butt out. So he turns in the Energetic Bunny every time he's over there. Right.
[00:35:33] Duuude-Ron :
Right?
[00:35:35] Unknown:
Well, you're gonna have to work on your sleep for next year as well.
[00:35:40] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'll get over there. Something here, hopefully, here pretty darn quick. Maybe next next year is I can I can get stuff?
[00:35:49] Unknown:
Oh, there you go. Oh, that all set. He's got a set on me. Alright. There you go.
[00:35:53] Rich Chelson:
Just got finished eating, so I'm a pull. And then the dog sits on me, so I was like, oh god. Then I've got a cat that was a little sit on me, but at the same time, the cat is like the cat well, Rain, cannot stand the sensation of a cat touching her. He'd be set not set he can set up, but the moment she he sinks down enough to where he touches her. Boy, she's up. She's moving. She's like, the hell, man.
[00:36:21] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I'm very seriously thinking about switching to Linux all the way around.
[00:36:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Pretty fun. Pretty nice little, little piece of software, ain't it?
[00:36:34] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, so I love Zorin. In fact in fact, I tell you what, believe it or not, setting Zorin up, me and Google Gemini, if it wasn't for her help, man, I tell you what, I wouldn't be anywhere done with with everything because yeah. You know, if I wanna know how to do something, I say, hey, Google. How do I do this? And she tell me. And then I do it. It works.
[00:37:03] Rich Chelson:
To tell you how to do this, I need to know what this is. Please give me more details on what you are trying to accomplish. Gemini, you're an idiot. Shut up.
[00:37:12] Duuude-Ron :
She heard me. But, but no. Hey. I needed to you know? Because I I was just like, how do I set this up? And so walked through it step by step, and I did each thing and got it set up and everything. I like Zorin. I'm thinking about putting Mint on on my on my new laptop.
[00:37:41] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:37:42] Duuude-Ron :
The one that I haven't had very long. The only thing I I I wonder about is the drivers for the video card.
[00:37:50] Rich Chelson:
The only one That's a yeah. That's gonna be your big hang up on any of them because NVIDIA won't release the drivers won't give out the, the drivers needed for, so they can they can try to get them to work on Actually on Linux.
[00:38:08] Duuude-Ron :
Actually, that's not so much true anymore because I've been I've been reading up on some of these forums and stuff. NVIDIA, they've they've made it possible to, get if needed, they've got a set of drivers for most other video cards that they put out that are open source. But if if those tend to not work real well, then they do make available the proprietary drivers
[00:38:45] Unknown:
for their cards.
[00:38:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. So yeah. I know.
[00:38:51] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So, yeah, I've been that's why the that's why I've been making sure of everything before I fully switch. You know? Right. Because you know? And now I've been reading. They've been able to get some high end video cards. I'm and I and I've seen the numbers, the GTX fifty seventy, the RTX. The there's about three three or four of them of the high ends that they name that are like the high high end ones. I don't have those. I've got, like, I've got, like, one of the mid tiers, you know, just maybe on the bottom side of the high end. But, but, yeah, they've got drivers for them.
[00:39:40] Rich Chelson:
Okay. So
[00:39:42] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that'll be good because Yeah. No. That's I I I mean, that's why I'm I because because my other laptop, the one that wouldn't stay up and running with Windows 10 or Windows 11, you know, now works like a dream. Yeah. You know, it it because it doesn't have so much bullshit tied to it, like like, you know, Windows has tied to it. And and I also looked, I can get, Zoom, you know, the Zoom meeting, what what we're using, you know Uh-huh. For, Linux.
[00:40:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. So
[00:40:24] Duuude-Ron :
so, see, I wouldn't I wouldn't even lose that.
[00:40:27] Rich Chelson:
Okay. That definitely is, is needed.
[00:40:31] Duuude-Ron :
Right. So No. You see, that's the thing. I've been I've been making sure I can keep, you know, a lot of, you know, everything that I need. And since this freaking computer I'm on right now is basically still clean because because I haven't put everything that I had on it back on it. I'm thinking, why don't I just make the switch?
[00:40:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. Make
[00:41:04] Unknown:
it. Make the switch.
[00:41:07] Rich Chelson:
I'll probably do. Dark side. We've got cookies.
[00:41:11] Duuude-Ron :
I like cookies.
[00:41:13] Unknown:
And peanut butter and marshmallows. All that creepy fuck.
[00:41:22] Duuude-Ron :
And now the reason I like Zorin, I I was actually kinda surprised. It it kinda doesn't make you feel like you're on Linux because it looks so much like Windows. It does Right. It it does act different. You know? And but, actually, by switching, you've got access to more programs than you ever thought.
[00:41:51] Rich Chelson:
You know? I believe that.
[00:41:53] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, oh, shit. The, Windows store has nothing compared to what you can get on on Linux. Right. You know? So I, I've been I've I've been highly impressed with everything.
[00:42:11] Unknown:
So what were you able to get done with the computer I left down there? Did you get whatever you said you're gonna try to put on it?
[00:42:20] Duuude-Ron :
No. Not yet. I've been, that'll that'll probably be next week because I got done with the contest. And then I took, like, a day and a half and, yeah, did nothing just because it wore out. And then and then I started messing with this laptop,
[00:42:43] Unknown:
and and I was with the Linux?
[00:42:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. And I was like well, I tried to play with it a little bit and, you know, figure out how to get into the the BIOS and everything like that, but it moves too quick. So I gotta do it, like, two or three times to figure out which button I need to hit to get there or which combinations because because when I plug the stick in, I'm a boot right from the stick.
[00:43:12] Rich Chelson:
From the stick?
[00:43:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. From the stick.
[00:43:16] Rich Chelson:
From the stick?
[00:43:18] Duuude-Ron :
And so I was I would I tried that, and it kept going too fast, going by too fast, and I'm like, screw it. I closed the lid. I said, I'll worry about it next week. My eyes weren't moving that fast, so I just I just been working on this laptop. And, the only the only thing because I still have my other computer over here on Windows on Windows 10. Okay. K. And I wanna use my laptop again for my ham radio stuff, but here's the problem that I have there. There is not a good hunt test logging program for Linux.
[00:44:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I could see that.
[00:44:11] Duuude-Ron :
No one has made one. They've made a couple logging programs. One is a general logging program, which is good, but it's not that great for contesting. And the best contest logger I have is a Windows product. Now I can use I can put wine onto Linux and possibly use that use my Windows program on that, but figuring out how to get the signals from my radio through Linux, through the wine program into my login program might be a challenge. I haven't figured that one out yet.
[00:44:58] Unknown:
Well, you have a whole half a month.
[00:45:01] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it ain't gonna be done by the end. So that's why I that that's why my my my ham radio computer is still on Windows 10 for now. Yeah. And who knows? I might have to learn how to code and make my own contest.
[00:45:17] Rich Chelson:
Thank you so much.
[00:45:19] Unknown:
You enjoy the hell out of that. I'll just go over here and drink a cup of coffee and have a smoke. I ain't even going to attempt that. Well, I don't have a computer anyway. So
[00:45:35] Duuude-Ron :
Well, see, that's the thing. I don't I honestly, I don't know if I wanna attempt it. But, you know, if I wanna fully switch to Linux over on my ham radio side, I've gotta do something. Right. So in other words, they either have to pay someone to write the program for me or learn how to do it myself. So I don't know yet. I am thinking about learning how to do it.
[00:46:02] Rich Chelson:
Well, wouldn't I mean, it's it's a challenge. You have to know what you're looking at, but at the same time, I mean, a lot of people go off go as far as as as letting AI do a lot of the, a lot of the programming.
[00:46:18] Duuude-Ron :
Well and that's that's, that's something I'm thinking about. I mean, I've got I've I I kinda had the layout in my head. And as far as the code, I mean, I I would learn the code as well, but especially getting started because I don't know any code.
[00:46:38] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:46:39] Duuude-Ron :
You know, why not let AI run the code? And then if I run into a problem, I can just take that bit of code and put it back in AI and say, fix it. What's wrong with it and why did it happen? You know what I mean? Right. And so this way, I learn while it's, you know, spitting code out. I ain't I ain't scared to do it. Well, yeah, I kinda am, but but I don't know. It's just because there is one program I could get, but this guy does it in his spare time. So he's like, you know, he's like, yeah. Yeah. I've made a few contest loads, but it's it's nothing.
It's it's not exhaustive. So and he's like, I prob he's he's like, I'm not a big contester, so I probably won't do many more. And it's like, well, shoot, dude. Get into contesting. That's fun. But no.
[00:47:43] Rich Chelson:
No.
[00:47:45] Duuude-Ron :
And see, that's where, honestly, I didn't think I liked contesting as much as I did. But after last last weekend, was it? Yeah. Last weekend, I was like, oh my god.
[00:47:56] Rich Chelson:
I was like, I'm in a candy store.
[00:47:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Because you got that high speed, low drag antenna.
[00:48:03] Duuude-Ron :
That's right. By god. And it worked very fucking well.
[00:48:09] Unknown:
Well, yeah, when you're getting these little itty bitty islands that nobody have ever has ever heard about except for those that live on the damn island.
[00:48:19] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:48:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I got places I had never heard of, man. I mean, it's crazy. Now you have.
[00:48:29] Unknown:
So and now you have. Now you have. Right? Yeah. So you're all in line. So
[00:48:37] Duuude-Ron :
And it was cool it was cool sitting there operating on on Sunday evening. I got to hear Japan come into play and made a couple contacts to Japan. So Oh, there you go. Yeah. Because, yeah, normally, I don't I don't hear Japan come in, you know, when when signals are good. But, yeah, I got to hear Japan come in. So, yeah, it was it was it was a lot of fun, man. I gotta say it was a lot of fun. I was wore the hell out, though.
[00:49:14] Unknown:
Now if just sitting in the chair wears you out, are we even gonna have fun next year cruising the coast?
[00:49:23] Duuude-Ron :
No. It went Am I am
[00:49:25] Unknown:
I gonna have to fucking bring the goddamn wheelchair down with me? I got one sitting up in the attic.
[00:49:34] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I believe you do. I I I believe you do. No. It's not the fact that they're just sitting in the chair. It was just it was it was operating a radio, trying to make sure I was I was my, program was sitting right where I needed it, you know, because since I didn't have the radio control and have the radio talking to my, logging program, I had to do it manually. And then trying to get the station and then make the contact, make sure I had to write their right information, my right information. You do that for twelve and a half hours. It wears you out.
[00:50:15] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It well, just like driving a truck in freaking rush hour traffic in a major city. You're not doing anything physical, but the mental exhaustion will wear you the fuck out.
[00:50:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's that's exactly what it was. You know? It it was it was more mental than physical.
[00:50:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I believe it.
[00:50:43] Duuude-Ron :
So but now I should be good for, cruising the coast next year.
[00:50:50] Unknown:
We'll see. Right. Especially if I especially if I bring a four by four. Get that. Get your ass moving, punk. Okay, boss.
[00:51:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yes, boss. Yes, boss. Yes, boss. Oh my god.
[00:51:10] Unknown:
It'll move pretty damn quickly. Or you'll move pretty damn quickly or you'll just take the stick from me and start beating me with my own stick.
[00:51:20] Duuude-Ron :
That would just be too much. And that would that would be I would I would have to set a video up for that. That would be YouTube worthy right there.
[00:51:32] Unknown:
Yep. And that would be a video that you never will achieve to get. Have fun.
[00:51:38] Duuude-Ron :
You don't know about that.
[00:51:40] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:51:42] Duuude-Ron :
You don't know about that.
[00:51:44] Unknown:
Just remember, I'm gonna hit you and run. You can't fucking you cannot catch me.
[00:51:50] Duuude-Ron :
Well, this is true. I cannot.
[00:51:52] Unknown:
Until I go to sleep. Until I go to sleep.
[00:51:56] Duuude-Ron :
I am not gonna argue that point. I I cannot run anymore, and I couldn't run when I could run. But
[00:52:05] Unknown:
I hated every fucking minute of it.
[00:52:08] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:52:09] Unknown:
Well, of course, we ran well, I was in the eighty second. We ran five days a week. Monday through Thursday was usually five miles, and then Friday would be eight to 10 miles. Fucking hated every damn minute of it.
[00:52:27] Duuude-Ron :
Right? I I bet, man. I mean, good god. Did y'all ever get to do any work?
[00:52:35] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Well
[00:52:37] Unknown:
and see, we didn't work like you worked as being a mechanic. You had physically something to do every single day.
[00:52:47] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:52:49] Unknown:
My ambulance isn't quite like that or wasn't quite like that because we can only fire artillery shells or mortar shells, you know, every so often. The rest of it was in fucking books. And, of course, I have this book as well.
[00:53:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But y'all could work on the tanks and stuff, couldn't you?
[00:53:10] Unknown:
We didn't have tanks. I take it back. We had a battalion of tanks for the whole division, and those were Sheraton's at that. Yep. Because that is the only the the only tank that they could drop that one forty one could actually physically take off and be airborne.
[00:53:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, how'd y'all shoot your rockets? You do smack them on a rock and throw them?
[00:53:45] Unknown:
No. Yeah. Remember, I was the one calling in the artillery. So you have to have an artillery battery or, you know, somebody in in the background, you know, pulling the lanyard.
[00:53:57] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Okay. So your unit did not have the tanks. Y'all just called the tanks up, said, yo. Y'all shoot over here.
[00:54:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We had well, eighty second, Tenth Mountain, twenty fifth ID, they're all light units, so they don't have any major vehicles.
[00:54:19] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:54:20] Unknown:
So unlike a storage hood where everything is mechanized here.
[00:54:26] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. So Yeah. I saw I saw something on Facebook today. I loved it. I freaking loved it. The freaking army is going back to the old brown rounds, man. Oh, are they really? Yes. They are. Beautiful round. Yeah. The drill Oh. Yeah. The drills aren't that? Yeah. The males have always had that. The females are going back to it too.
[00:54:54] Unknown:
Yes. I saw that. Yeah. Well, they're gonna standardize the headgear for the drill instructors
[00:54:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[00:55:00] Unknown:
And get rid of that whatever the fuck. I don't remember what they called that that the females wore. It's like you're doing a safari in Africa.
[00:55:10] Duuude-Ron :
It's a campaign hat.
[00:55:12] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:55:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I had to think of of the word they they used. It's it's a it's a campaign hat, which, honestly, I always like to look of it, you know, on the females, Joe Sargent. I always liked it. I don't know why I just always did. But so, yeah, I saw that, and I'm like, hell, yeah. Freaking go go back to the way basic training was in the late eighties and early nineties before all this pussyfooting around.
[00:55:44] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah.
[00:55:46] Duuude-Ron :
I mean I mean and and I saw that, and I was like I was like, oh, lot of little boys and girls gonna be crying for their mommies.
[00:55:58] Unknown:
Well, shit. Did didn't we?
[00:56:00] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. We did. But but it'll be worse now. Oh, hell yeah. Shit. There are many times I always had it back home on the block. Shoot. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie.
[00:56:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Well Right. Maybe and maybe one of these days, we'll get a generation that's in the military that actually has some discipline.
[00:56:30] Duuude-Ron :
Well, let's let's hope they're starting with that now.
[00:56:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Okay.
[00:56:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I saw I saw that post on Facebook, and I was like, hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
[00:56:42] Unknown:
And a majority of the females actually won it.
[00:56:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that's good.
[00:56:49] Unknown:
Because then they could do, like, the males and take their the brim of their hat and freaking knock it on the center of your chest right there on your sternum.
[00:56:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yeah. I know. That's
[00:57:02] Unknown:
My buddy, Deah, across the street, he's still in the military, and he was telling me about any type of admin shit for corrective actions.
[00:57:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Uh-huh.
[00:57:15] Unknown:
Is fucking a nightmare. Really? Oh, yeah. He said, by the time you get done doing it and getting it corrected, grammarly, or, you know, how it was worded in the first place, it's like, what is even the fucking what's the point? Right. At that, yeah, at that point in time? It's like, what the fuck is the goddamn point? I like the aspect where if they didn't wanna move to a certain location or a certain direction, then I could physically move them. I enjoyed those days.
[00:57:59] Duuude-Ron :
Hey, Brandon. Yep. Let me ask you a question.
[00:58:03] Rich Chelson:
17.
[00:58:05] Unknown:
Now Always. I thought it was 42.
[00:58:08] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's that's the answer to life and everything. Oh, okay.
[00:58:14] Duuude-Ron :
Now when when you was in basic, what what kinda dress did your NCOs have?
[00:58:25] Rich Chelson:
No. They just had the, they had the your your standard, shit. What did they have? Because now I was fixing to say they just had typical hat, But you know? Well, you would think Well, it didn't it wasn't it wasn't the big it wasn't the big round ones as I mean, most of the guys because, I mean, we had most of them were, first class petty officers. There was usually a chief that oversaw them.
[00:58:54] Unknown:
So So each officer is being a being a what e grade?
[00:58:59] Rich Chelson:
I see here. That'd be You see, one, two, three. So so third class is four, five. Yeah. Six would be the first class, and seven would be, would be the the chief. Okay.
[00:59:15] Duuude-Ron :
And so They were e sixes? Yeah. Okay.
[00:59:21] Rich Chelson:
For some reason, I wanna say the chief, his name was Cross. I can't I'm not a 100%. That's not sounding right.
[00:59:28] Unknown:
So did you guys wear BDU type uniforms throughout basic training or anything? No. We started out in sweat short sweat
[00:59:36] Rich Chelson:
sweats and, for the first couple weeks until we got our, till we got our dungarees and and, and shirts in.
[00:59:45] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Yeah. Wow. To wear sweats?
[00:59:48] Rich Chelson:
We had to wear sweats. Yeah.
[00:59:51] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god.
[00:59:52] Rich Chelson:
Sweatpants and sweatshirt. It just yeah. No. Looked about as gay as you could think. You'd think it does.
[01:00:00] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:00:01] Rich Chelson:
Oh, and, also, you had you had a a marking as to when you got, when you went through hell week or not. And it was you had you had a web belt that you wore with it. So you had green, which was your booger belt, and you wore your booger belt all the way up until, I think, it's week five. Maybe it's week six. I think it's five. I couldn't tell you. I tell goddamn it's been thirty years ago. And, but then you go through your your hell week, which in the navy, you know, it's it's not horrendous. It's just you don't get much sleep because, you know, you're you're doing rotations, and you also have to keep your bunks clean and and all that, and you're doing you work we work the mess, do the mess cranking, and stuff like that. And that's what hell we can tell.
Always cleaning up, and you go and you clean something else, and you come over here and you clean this, and then you're cleaning up the garbage from here, and then you're going over there. And, you know, you're always going. You get about three hours a night, if that. Two to three hours a night for for a week. So, yeah, by the end of it, you're tired, you're wore out, you're you know, and, and stuff. But when you got done, you're you handed in your booger belt for a white web belt, and that became sugar belt. So you went from a booger to a sugar. And so then you started walking around with a with a sugar belt on.
[01:01:28] Duuude-Ron :
Thank God I didn't go in the Navy. Good
[01:01:31] Rich Chelson:
God. But, yeah, we had ball caps that we normally wore. I mean, we had our Dixie cups too, but
[01:01:38] Unknown:
but a lot of times, it was just ball caps.
[01:01:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was ball cap if I'm remembering right.
[01:01:44] Duuude-Ron :
But starting out with a booger belt and then a sugar belt. Yep. Yeah. I I I I I I don't I don't think I would have wanted to be. I'm I'm glad I was not a part of that because I I don't I don't think I as as a as a human being, Brian, I don't think I could be as strong as you admitting that on this podcast.
[01:02:08] Rich Chelson:
Oh, well, hell, everybody who's ever been in the navy knows about booger belts and the sugar belts and and the the somewhat hellish, but not quite hellish hell week and you know? Right. Well, I mean And if you did it there in the wintertime, then, you know, you there were several times where you just did everything indoors because you had, they weren't gonna let you go out in, in 60 degree or minus 60 degree wind chill because, you know, somebody might get too cold or something. So
[01:02:40] Unknown:
Well, god forbid, we fucking get everything outside, and it was a 100 plus.
[01:02:47] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:02:48] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, a 100 plus is one thing, but, you know, 60 below, you you start getting, extremities turning, turning white.
[01:02:58] Unknown:
Fuck that. Mere flesh wound.
[01:03:03] Rich Chelson:
Get out and rub some salt train.
[01:03:05] Unknown:
There you go. Rub some salt on it and fucking just, you know, go to fuck on. But I understand that. Where'd you do your basic training at?
[01:03:16] Rich Chelson:
Great Mistakes.
[01:03:18] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:03:20] Rich Chelson:
Great Lakes in, in Chicago, actually.
[01:03:23] Unknown:
How many locations does the navy have for boot camp?
[01:03:28] Rich Chelson:
Just one now. Really? Yep. Damn.
[01:03:33] Unknown:
Which is where? Chicago. Oh, okay. One location. Yep. Daniela, I can't tell you how many fucking bases there are for the army.
[01:03:45] Duuude-Ron :
There's quite a few.
[01:03:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Basic training camps?
[01:03:48] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
[01:03:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Basic train yeah. For the army. Hang on. I'll look it up.
[01:03:54] Unknown:
Well, you got Benning, Knox, Sill, McClellan. Well, McClellan isn't anymore.
[01:04:02] Duuude-Ron :
Jackson.
[01:04:03] Unknown:
Jackson.
[01:04:05] Duuude-Ron :
Hang on. I got it. Yeah. Benning you want. Jackson. Yep. Leonard Wood.
[01:04:11] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:04:12] Unknown:
Fort
[01:04:13] Rich Chelson:
Sill. Mhmm.
[01:04:14] Duuude-Ron :
That's it. That's it now? Four. They only have four.
[01:04:19] Unknown:
Oh. Yep. Damn. Well, Benning does all the infantry. Jackson did all the admin.
[01:04:28] Duuude-Ron :
And So Yeah. Well well, when I was in, Jackson was doing infantry and admin. Really? Wow. Yeah. Infantry, admin, and, like, mechanics. Yeah. Yeah. Jackson does quite a few different ones. Leonard Wood train trains MPs, combat engineers, and other occupations. Fort Sill is field artillery, and Benning is infantry and armor.
[01:04:55] Unknown:
Oh, okay. So they took what used to be armor at Knox and moved it to Benning because that's what Fort Knox was is their training was for the armor. Right. All the eighteen and nineteen skill set MOS.
[01:05:14] Duuude-Ron :
And those, I think, have changed, haven't they?
[01:05:18] Unknown:
I'm sure they have. Don't e don't even get me to lying to you what freaking hardly any MOS is anymore. Right. But a but a 13 Fox Ford Observer, guess what? It's still the 13 Fox Ford Observer to this day because that's what my neighbor is. I'll be damned. He was the same MOS that now that I was when I was in.
[01:05:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I was I was a '63 bravo, and I found out that they've all been changed to, like, the 92 deltas, bravos, Charlies. So Yeah. Yeah.
[01:05:56] Unknown:
Oh, and now I've from that same neighbor that when you go in to artillery, you go in as 13 nothing. And when you're in basic, that's when they decide what your MOS is gonna be. 13 FOX, 13 bravo, which is the artillery pieces, 13 echo, that's the FTC, and then 13 Mike is the MLRS system.
[01:06:30] Duuude-Ron :
So
[01:06:31] Unknown:
You don't even get to pick that. Nope. Nope. Not not with the recruiter. You don't get to pick that.
[01:06:39] Duuude-Ron :
That's that's crazy.
[01:06:42] Unknown:
Yeah. That's crazy. He said. Now now do I know? I have no fucking idea because, well, hell, I've been retired now for seventeen years and don't really give a shit.
[01:06:55] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But See, that's like that's like in the Marines. You know? I think I think you get to pick, but I think I think the marines get to move you where they want you and need you.
[01:07:09] Unknown:
Well, yeah, because they go in as, like, the infantry, but infantry has different levels. You have, obviously, the infantry individual, then you have the mortar MOS. That's completely separate. And then going into mechanized or light is different.
[01:07:37] Duuude-Ron :
They they probably did it because a lot of people weren't weren't, you know, taking it. So they're like, okay. You don't know what you wanna do? We'll help you figure it out.
[01:07:49] Unknown:
Yeah. And, you know, my MOS has since I was in and it still is a critically shortage MOS.
[01:08:00] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:08:01] Unknown:
And it always will be. So if that's what you choose, that is what you always will be because they're always hurting for them.
[01:08:10] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it was you know, if I had known that, I probably would have done that because it would have been easy to rank up there. I mean, show up to formation and and you get a pay grade. Yeah. You know?
[01:08:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Some of the, you know, like, mechanics and admin and so on like that, you know, their their points were promotion points were always at nine ninety. It never.
[01:08:36] Duuude-Ron :
Right. That was mine.
[01:08:38] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:08:39] Duuude-Ron :
That that was mine. I mean, now now Dalton's been able to well, last time I talked to him, he's supposed to be getting his z seven in February, I think.
[01:08:49] Unknown:
So But what is his career field?
[01:08:53] Duuude-Ron :
92 delta generator mechanic.
[01:08:57] Unknown:
No shit. And got and is getting e seven in how many years?
[01:09:05] Duuude-Ron :
Ten?
[01:09:06] Unknown:
Twelve. 12. And a generator mechanic making e seven. Wow.
[01:09:13] Duuude-Ron :
Well, he's he's also, I guess I guess, apparently, gotten gotten some accommodations that's helped along the
[01:09:22] Unknown:
way. Well, I'm sure.
[01:09:24] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So but, yeah, that's that's crazy. And and he's actually an instructor for a generator mechanics now.
[01:09:34] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Where is he stationed at?
[01:09:37] Duuude-Ron :
Fort Lee.
[01:09:39] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[01:09:40] Duuude-Ron :
So so, yeah, he, but, yeah, making e seven at twelve? Dude, that's crazy.
[01:09:48] Unknown:
Yeah. And the $92.92 field mechanic overall? Yeah. So then when he gets done being an instructor, he ain't gonna be a generator mechanic anymore. What's he gonna be? He's gonna be the motor sergeant.
[01:10:04] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Well, yeah.
[01:10:05] Unknown:
So he ain't gonna be working on generators anymore?
[01:10:08] Duuude-Ron :
No. Oh, I don't honestly, I don't I don't think he's worked on a generator now for about two or three years.
[01:10:16] Unknown:
Well, except well, except for to break the ones that the new soldiers get to fix when they get into AIT. Right. So I'm sure he's gotten real good at breaking shit for training. Yeah. But, yeah, he'll be the he'll be a motor sergeant when he goes back down on the line. Well, hopefully, he'll make e eight and sixteen.
[01:10:50] Duuude-Ron :
That would be cool.
[01:10:52] Unknown:
That would.
[01:10:54] Duuude-Ron :
He just he just might. I mean, he's, you know, he's he's actually used his time in service to, you know, better himself. So so, yeah, I I could see I, you know, I could see him making his e eight in 16. He's, taking college classes and other, you know, classes to, you know, I guess, help him improve as being an NCO and stuff. So
[01:11:23] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, he's
[01:11:25] Duuude-Ron :
he's actually taking advantage of what the army does have to offer. And, you know Yeah. Like like a lot of us guys, we just wanna bitch and whine and drink beer. You know? Right.
[01:11:38] Unknown:
Well and, like, with my MOS, fucking we never could because you wanna take a class, and and they didn't have the classes then like they have now, where you can do a lot of shit online. But being a combat MOS, yeah, it's really hard to go to college in general.
[01:11:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well yeah. And see, that's the thing when, you were in yeah. You're right. Online was just that was unheard of. Mhmm. You know? And and if you if you did sign up for a class, like, I remember I forget where I was at. I signed up to take a college course, and my, my motor pool surgeon wouldn't let me leave early to go to class. And so I I got booted out of that class. I said I'd pay for it, but I got booted out because I wasn't allowed to leave early because back then, what the hell what the hell do you need college for now? You gotta stay here and work.
[01:12:45] Unknown:
Yeah. And on the promotion system, it was only a 100 fucking points.
[01:12:50] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But still. I would've been a I would've been a 100 points closer to my nine nine eight. You're you're absolutely correct. I mean, not saying that it would've helped, but, you know, I would have learned something.
[01:13:07] Unknown:
Yeah. So what was the highest PT score you ever ever achieved?
[01:13:12] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I don't know. I never paid attention to that shit.
[01:13:16] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, I know mine. Yeah.
[01:13:24] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I'm glad you do. I mean I mean, seriously, dude, when I'm staring at nine nine eight, did I really freaking care about a PT test? No. I did not. Because I knew no matter what score I got, I was not gonna become promotable, and I was not gonna become an e five, so I didn't worry about it. So yeah. No. I I just I just, yeah, I I just I passed the PT test. I didn't worry about the score.
[01:13:57] Rich Chelson:
Long as you passed it.
[01:13:59] Duuude-Ron :
That's right.
[01:14:00] Unknown:
Well, that was kinda me at the end.
[01:14:03] Duuude-Ron :
Thing that got me was a two mile run. You know, I was I was smoking three packs of cigarettes a day. So I could do the push ups and sit ups like nobody's business. I can knock a 100 out in two minutes. You know? Not a problem. But that but that freaking two mile run, oh, I remember I remember I was in South Korea doing a PT test. We did the push ups, the sit ups, and did the two mile run. And I got up, got turned around because we went a mile up and a mile back to the one place we was at. And, on the way back, I saw a buddy of mine. He was walking. And I'm like, what you walking for? He's like, screw it, dude. I'll make it there in time. And he was he was walking, smoking a cigarette. I said, hey. Do you got another one? I didn't bring mine. He's like, well, hell yeah. He freaking gave me a cigarette, so I just started walking with him.
I'm like, screw it. Alright. I'll walk with you. Keep you company. And I still came in under time.
[01:15:16] Unknown:
I see. My score was two ninety and above. That's when it was still the three freaking sections like you just described, push ups, set ups, and two mile run. See, for fifteen years, mine was two nine and
[01:15:33] Duuude-Ron :
above. Oh, that's cool.
[01:15:36] Unknown:
And the reason why I will always remember my highest PT test is because it wasn't a freaking high score for best PT in the unit. And on the extended scale, mine was a three eighty six and still didn't get high PT.
[01:15:54] Duuude-Ron :
Pissed me off. I bet it did.
[01:15:58] Unknown:
Because and I'll never forget the kid that that I was competing with was his name was Kramer. We did the same amount of push ups and sit ups, but he started sprinting at the end, and I missed him by two seconds. So that put my that two seconds was split into the next time category. So I got a three eighty six. He got a three eighty seven.
[01:16:30] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:16:31] Unknown:
So, yeah, we both did a 118 push ups, a 118 sit ups, and then it was a ten ten o five in the two mile run. He got 10 o three in which mine pushed me into the next time category.
[01:16:48] Duuude-Ron :
That's a bummer.
[01:16:49] Unknown:
Yeah. It was. Little bastard. Because he was a good six, seven inches shorter than me. Little bastard. Hope I could jump straight ahead.
[01:17:07] Duuude-Ron :
But you see, that's the thing. A PT test, like golf, is not a competition. It's only a competition against yourself.
[01:17:17] Unknown:
Well, in basic training, it was a competition with Kramer. Damn it. Then the rest of my career, it was a competition
[01:17:29] Duuude-Ron :
against me. Oh, you just wanted to beat Kramer.
[01:17:33] Unknown:
Well, yeah, to get my PT in basic training. Damn right.
[01:17:39] Duuude-Ron :
Was this was this Kramer from Seinfeld? No. Okay. I just I just thought I'd ask. I mean, that guy I love that guy. He's funnier and shit.
[01:17:51] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Not even remotely close.
[01:17:56] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:17:58] Rich Chelson:
So
[01:17:59] Unknown:
I thought you were fixing to say, you mean the one off of Kramer versus Kramer, the movie?
[01:18:05] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, dude. That's like that's like a
[01:18:10] Rich Chelson:
long blast in the past. Yeah. That's a that's a long sound go.
[01:18:15] Unknown:
Because I don't remember who the female was, but the male was I just had his fucking name. Now I don't have his name. Yeah. Let me pull it up real quick. Of course, you will. Alright. So 1979.
[01:18:29] Rich Chelson:
Dustin Hoffman.
[01:18:30] Unknown:
Dustin Hoffman. Yeah. In Mill Street.
[01:18:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Merrell. Yep. Oh my god. 1979. Damn. Yes, folks. We are that old.
[01:18:43] Unknown:
Well well, I remember going to see the first Star Wars in the theaters.
[01:18:51] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:18:51] Unknown:
Did you get that pleasure, Rich?
[01:18:54] Rich Chelson:
No. He was he he remember, he had the, he had the the the sheltered life, so so he wouldn't able to watch watch television or or listen to good music or or anything like that. So, yes, Star Wars, I'm sure, was probably not allowed.
[01:19:13] Duuude-Ron :
I can't I can't remember. Now Close Encounters, first time or the third time, first time I watched that, that was on the VCR.
[01:19:26] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That was the same for me. But
[01:19:29] Duuude-Ron :
Star Wars, I wanna say, yes. I saw it in the theater.
[01:19:34] Rich Chelson:
Not when it came out. But No. I saw the I saw the rerelease in the '7 in '79.
[01:19:41] Unknown:
Yeah. And I saw the fucking original. Same way with Smokey and the Bandit. When that was in theaters.
[01:19:52] Rich Chelson:
Smokey and the Bandit, Envoy, back when they used were actually making, sucker movies.
[01:19:58] Unknown:
Yeah. And CJ McCall.
[01:20:02] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. CJ McCall?
[01:20:06] Unknown:
Oh, come on. Seriously?
[01:20:10] Duuude-Ron :
Why is that not his name? It's c w McCall.
[01:20:14] Unknown:
No. Okay. Sorry.
[01:20:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[01:20:19] Unknown:
Excuse the hell out of me. I don't have a computer up and running to do fat checks.
[01:20:27] Duuude-Ron :
I didn't even have to look that one up, dude. I've known that for years because, actually, his songs are really freaking good. Oh, yeah. They are. You know? I I mean, just just the stories in a mur and the thing is nine times out of 10, those are true stories.
[01:20:46] Unknown:
And what was the name of the song that was his biggest hit?
[01:20:50] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there was a few of them. Convoy, wasn't it? Well, there was that one, a Wolf Creek Pass, Wolf Creek Pass,
[01:20:59] Rich Chelson:
Black Bear Pass.
[01:21:01] Duuude-Ron :
I don't remember hearing Black Bear Pass. Oh, yeah. I probably have heard it, though.
[01:21:06] Unknown:
One day, I'm gonna go down Black Bear Pass.
[01:21:12] Duuude-Ron :
One day. I would like to too. That's a scary ass freaking I've I've watched that on YouTube. I've watched that pass on YouTube.
[01:21:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh, Black Bear Road is what they call it. Yeah. Black Bear Road.
[01:21:26] Duuude-Ron :
This this is a pass, and it was traveled by Jeeps and Jeeps. Yeah. It's a famous Jeep town. And Yep. There is one video showed a red four door Jeep somehow Yep. Didn't navigate a turn properly, and it rolled down the hill. Yep. Side to side All the way down.
[01:21:51] Rich Chelson:
Yep. It surely did.
[01:21:55] Duuude-Ron :
I saw that video.
[01:21:56] Unknown:
But you remember do you know what that original purpose of why they built that? No. It was a mining road.
[01:22:05] Rich Chelson:
I was gonna say it's either a mining road or, or just a logging road or not a logging road, but a, no utility road.
[01:22:15] Unknown:
No. Yeah. It was a mining road with two way traffic. Yeah. I wouldn't fucking do two way traffic.
[01:22:23] Rich Chelson:
Nah. Hell no.
[01:22:27] Unknown:
On Black Bear Pass?
[01:22:29] Duuude-Ron :
Nah. Oh, come on. It's wide enough except for a couple spots.
[01:22:34] Unknown:
No. Thank you. Not when I look over to the left and it's a fucking 2,000 foot sheer drop. Fuck that.
[01:22:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, look, Peter. If if you put it right, you you won't have to go on to anything. Yeah. You'll have enough suction. You'll stick to that rock.
[01:22:54] Unknown:
Just like just like with my TJ when I fucking had my seat cushion, made it into a fucking mohawk. Yeah. It took a long time to fucking press that mohawk out of that fucking seat cover. That's when I almost that's when I about rolled that TJ. Yeah. That was not a puncher. That
[01:23:17] Rich Chelson:
was a little nerve wracking.
[01:23:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Scared the fucking bejesus out of me. And then two weeks later, went and did it all over again. All over again. But I tell you what, I did not fucking fuck with Ron's crack. So
[01:23:37] Rich Chelson:
You like playing with your crack. You know it. You're weird that way.
[01:23:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Not with the TJ. Now the the JK was a little bit different until it cost me $1,200 in parts. And then I'm like, no. I ain't fucking around with that one no more. And I have not have not even been near Ron's crack since.
[01:24:02] Rich Chelson:
Not gonna play that game no more. Nope.
[01:24:05] Unknown:
Not after it cost me $1,200 in fucking parts.
[01:24:09] Duuude-Ron :
That's right.
[01:24:10] Unknown:
No. No. No.
[01:24:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Seems seems like it gets expensive with stuff beds when it's not supposed to.
[01:24:17] Unknown:
Yeah. And I can't remember if I'd I don't think I trailed it down that time, and driving home was fucking nerve wracking.
[01:24:29] Rich Chelson:
I bet.
[01:24:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Because the fucking tie rod and the, drag link were both bent. And I mean bent. Yeah. That was a nerve wracking.
[01:24:40] Rich Chelson:
So both of them were bent. I thought you'd like it was like your tie rod or something like that? Yeah. It was a tie rod and the drain leak were bent.
[01:24:49] Unknown:
Just hoping that they wouldn't bend anymore and freaking tow in the freaking front end and, you know, roll that motherfucker going down the interstate.
[01:24:59] Rich Chelson:
That would suck for sure. That would definitely have sucked. May birthday record.
[01:25:06] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:25:08] Duuude-Ron :
Hey, Brian. Hey. Did you see the, the show notes for last week's episode?
[01:25:16] Rich Chelson:
No. I didn't. I wouldn't pay attention to those.
[01:25:19] Duuude-Ron :
Take a look at them. Pod homes AI thing they do, you know Uh-huh. When you upload an episode. I gotta say this is their best this is their best summation yet of any of our podcasts. And they've they've had some pretty good ones in the past, but this one here, read the show notes.
[01:25:40] Rich Chelson:
50 miles of hot rods and the plumber's crack.
[01:25:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I thought I thought that there was a good title.
[01:25:49] Unknown:
I thought it was gonna be roofs and rods.
[01:25:53] Duuude-Ron :
What?
[01:25:55] Unknown:
Roofs and rods.
[01:25:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh,
[01:25:58] Unknown:
now the hell do I know? It it changed. That is cool. That is cool. What what was the what was it called again?
[01:26:06] Duuude-Ron :
50 miles of hot rods and plumbers crack.
[01:26:10] Unknown:
Oh, wow. What will AI think of next time?
[01:26:15] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what's funny, dude? If you if you stop and think about it, the title 50 miles of of hot rods and the title plumber's crack are two of your lines that you said during that podcast last week.
[01:26:35] Unknown:
The I just
[01:26:36] Duuude-Ron :
yes.
[01:26:38] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[01:26:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Those are your lines. AI just put them together.
[01:26:43] Rich Chelson:
Bullshit. Bullshit. No. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true.
[01:26:50] Unknown:
You know what? Well, amen. Amen. And I can't remember the rest of the saying, TAFSA something.
[01:26:58] Rich Chelson:
Fast turkey. Fast fast, man.
[01:27:02] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. I don't know either. But yeah. No. It was just yeah. It was it was your your lines. And when I was looking for podcast titles through, AI, that wouldn't come up. So I worded you know, it it it it added a few other little words like the and and, and I'm like, no. That don't fit. And I'm like, okay. Yeah. This fits. But, yeah, those were you said both of those.
[01:27:35] Unknown:
Well, hot diggity damn.
[01:27:39] Duuude-Ron :
So, hey, I thought you were special.
[01:27:42] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You're right. I am special. Special Ed, special Ted. I was gonna say that's the reason why he doesn't have any paste in this house.
[01:27:52] Duuude-Ron :
Ryan, you changed it for showing up.
[01:27:55] Rich Chelson:
I did. I did.
[01:27:57] Duuude-Ron :
Not bad,
[01:27:58] Rich Chelson:
No. Those are really good. That's a very good, overview of what the, what the show is about.
[01:28:05] Duuude-Ron :
Right? I thought I thought it was really yeah. I mean, it was I was just like, wow. I was floored when I read that, and I'm like, woah. Hold on. Pod Pod Home AI
[01:28:17] Rich Chelson:
came up with that? Yeah. They must be using the new, ChatGPT.
[01:28:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I don't care what they're using, but it works.
[01:28:26] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. They're doing doing a good job. I speak English. I need to get myself back into getting one of my getting the show going again.
[01:28:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You do. Why you been slacking?
[01:28:37] Rich Chelson:
Honestly, because it's just been the for the past several you know, the way that everything rotates screws me up. Hell, I don't even do it near as
[01:28:49] Duuude-Ron :
many many, blog posts as I used to. Yeah. I know. Because every time you do a blog post, I get an email, and I haven't gotten an email from you now for a month. A month. Yeah. Well, yeah. I know. I know. I got my finger on the pulse, man.
[01:29:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's just and then when I'm I'm here at the house, it's you know, I can't sit and do anything because fucking dog has to be in my lap the whole damn time. And I can't figure that out how to type on my on my laptop and walk at the same time. Text to speech, dude. Well, that's what I've been doing. A lot of times, I'll I'll go through and I'll I'll do a voice the voice to text type of angle on it, and it it gets the the general gist of of of everything. It's just at the same time, I don't quite talk the same way that I write, and so there's a little bit of a change in that.
[01:29:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But you you can always go and, you know, brush that up if you want.
[01:29:58] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. I do. Yeah. And, but I'm wanting to start getting that done and get at least try to get podcast up and going again. And then I've got an idea for another podcast that I'm actually wanting to try. I don't know how well it goes. It's just mainly just for kinda me just being kinda a little bit out of shits and giggles more than anything.
[01:30:23] Duuude-Ron :
What you thinking about?
[01:30:25] Rich Chelson:
Well, still using the same coaching model and all that. K. But but doing that women are complaining about nowadays is that they don't find they can't find quality men. The quality men have up and walked away. And these are the girls with wicked septum piercings of 37, you know, piercings on their face or they've got, we've got more tattoos than they do, they do exposed skin. And so I wanna do the the ambitious woman's guide to to dating and marriage. And it might be just a limited little deal, you know, may not be all that it might be, you know, 30 episodes. Who knows? But, you know, just kinda start off in all the all the the lies that feminism has told women that that causes men to just turn their back and go, yeah. You know what? I'm not gonna do this.
And you and sadly, what they're gonna they're gonna have to wait about ten years before the guys start coming back into the into the, picture again. And so you've got, you know, the mid twenties, mid thirties who are looking for men, and they're they're looking for that good guy. And the good guys ain't showing up because good guys have been told to sit down, shut up, and listen and and let women lead. And they're like, well, fine. Whatever. And now they're now these women are realizing, holy smokes. My, my biological clock's ticking.
I actually want a child now, and maybe they're in the late thirties. So trying to have a child of that age is gonna be a lot tougher than you were in your twenties. And so, yeah, there are a lot of women are are waking up to the fact that they've been sold bill bill of goods that sucks. That wasn't for their own. They were told to hate men by by a professor in a women's study class that had daddy issues. And so Yeah. And so they've they've taken all that information and swirled it around and come to find out it's not the not the grandest bit of information to be, to have taken advice from because, yeah, it's no. Well, there's no There's something about the traditions that that are good. And one of the best things is obviously that they're not gonna like is, you know, to and is, go slow.
Believe it or not, you've got all the power in a relationship. You want a guy to do, you know, you want a guy to to have the idea to do something that you want him to do? Well, it's not hard. All you have to do is you have to know how to, a, talk to a guy, but, b, if you wanna know where the good guy is, an easy way to to to to thin the power or thin the herd out is just say no. We're not sleeping on the first night date. We're not sleeping on the sixth date. We may start allowing some heavy petting six months down the road. And to watch both sides of the, the party just sit there and swarm over that little idea It's fascinating because you get people coming up with, well, how are you supposed to know if they're if they're any good? It's like, well, you've kinda already ruined that because you've already slept with other people.
So you're just gonna have to hope they're good.
[01:34:10] Duuude-Ron :
And and hold it. Why why does why is why is sex a a measuring stick for if they're good or not? Because sex isn't it's that's not a measuring stick for anything.
[01:34:23] Rich Chelson:
But for feminist, it is. Well, I wanna know make sure that he knows how to satisfy me in bed. It's like, well, that's where communication comes into play. Well, no. They don't. But at the same time, they when you're you would have the ability to to explore and have a and have a, have a grander time exploring if you would actually you know, if you'd had waited till till marriage Because, well, we're not supposed to know if he's if he's good or not. Well, how do you know if he's bad or not? You don't have anything to reference it against. And that's where the the instant the whole analogy of any sex is is good sex comes from.
And as y'all try to learn stuff with each other and and you become more aware and you start opening up about different things you like to to see, talk, and try, then, you know, your your your significant other is going to be willing to try that. You know? It's like, hey. Well, that sounds scary. I've never thought of upside down from a tree before, but let's try it. You know?
[01:35:33] Duuude-Ron :
I watch it.
[01:35:34] Rich Chelson:
Say a second.
[01:35:36] Duuude-Ron :
Everyone everyone puts on too much about sex is stupid.
[01:35:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, I I get what you're saying. And, yeah, it's it is often got too much power or not power, but too much of an influence. But at the same time, it's a very important part of a marriage, and sexless marriages are gonna fail just as fast as as any other type of marriage that didn't have that type of trust.
[01:36:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, yes, still, it's just it's
[01:36:11] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I would base my marriage on strictly on the amount of sex that we have.
[01:36:16] Duuude-Ron :
Right. You know, yours and a lot of people's, you know, believe it or not, you know, there's there's there's many different, you know, things to base their marriage on. You know, friendship When Yeah. Communication.
[01:36:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? And that's one thing that I've I've often told a lot couple of clients who were I've been I'm gonna just talk to to see if I get them to come on as as an actual client was because they were a lot some of them were a bit younger and were trying to trying to date and we're and we're struggling when we sit. And it's you know, it can be tough, especially when you find someone who you think you might actually like a lot. It's it's easy to want to go physical. But to really see what you're basing your relationship off of is always try a thirty minute break or a thirty day break where there is no physical touch for thirty days. You get to see each other. You can talk all you want, but you don't hold hands. You don't put your arm around her shoulder. There's no snogging. There's nothing like that. You just y'all are with each other, but you're not holding hands and things like that. Can you have a strong relationship even through something like that?
And even whenever I was in high school, that was a challenge because you start having all these thoughts of, well, they must be finding the getting talking to somebody else. You know? You start having all these other thoughts of, well, she's gotta be gotta be wanting, you know, having sex with somebody else. Not that I was having sex in high school. I didn't actually have sex until that till I was out of high school. Right. But but, you know, you you have these these thoughts of and you start realizing that there's times that you start really kinda snipping at each other. And that's out of, if anything, out of the fact that your your have you have removed the the feel good dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin from your system because of that person.
So you get, you know so all of a sudden, you become a little grumpier. This is why why so many people so many people actually get cranky whenever they're going off of cigarettes or, you know, they're trying to get off sugar. They turn turn cranky and and and grumbly is because they don't have that feel good in their life.
[01:39:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:39:03] Unknown:
So
[01:39:04] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. I mean, go for it, dude.
[01:39:07] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I that's that's not a bridge I would cross, but, you know, that's I think it just be funny just to see how many how many feminists actually go, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It's like, well, how's your how's your your attack working? Yeah. You could you can say I'm full of shit. You're and that's fine. You know? You're gonna hurt my feelings by by by saying that. But I'm I'm been married for thirty years coming up on thirty years. So I may accidentally know a little more than than someone who is not not necessarily, but, you know, that's the kind of the if you wanna if you wanna stand up stand, you know, face to face with me and go, you don't know what you're talking about. It's like, well, I may not, but at the same time, I just may.
Don't know until until you apply.
[01:40:02] Duuude-Ron :
Right. And see, that's the thing. You know? I mean, how do they know they know what they're talking about? Because they're listening to your podcast.
[01:40:13] Rich Chelson:
So Yeah. I start finding men.
[01:40:16] Duuude-Ron :
Right? So, obviously, it's like, yeah. Do you really know what you're talking about? I think I do.
[01:40:25] Rich Chelson:
Even if I don't, I think I do.
[01:40:27] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:40:28] Rich Chelson:
I have the American, American ego in in play.
[01:40:35] Unknown:
Well, aren't you just special? Absolutely.
[01:40:38] Rich Chelson:
That's the reason why I don't have paste in the house.
[01:40:42] Unknown:
No. You're like me. You just have super glue.
[01:40:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I've I've already glued too many things together, so I can't I can't put touch that stuff no more.
[01:40:52] Unknown:
Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Do you remember the days that we used to take Elmer's glue, spread it on the palm, and
[01:41:03] Rich Chelson:
wait till it dries to peel it off. Yeah. Peel the skin. Yeah. Look at that. Yeah. All skin come out here.
[01:41:11] Duuude-Ron :
And then and then roll it up into glue balls and spit it through straws at girls.
[01:41:17] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yep.
[01:41:19] Duuude-Ron :
And girls, we liked.
[01:41:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got it. It was good to the girls. Yeah. You gotta annoy that's how you got the girls' attention is by annoying them. Right. Didn't know you could actually be nice to them, and you'd get their attention too.
[01:41:32] Unknown:
Yeah. No. We didn't know that. Our our job was to annoy them. We we ain't hardwired like that.
[01:41:39] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Hell, it's it's funny to watch girls on on TikTok sit there and go, why do guys not respond to us flirting? It's like, because they're guys. We just we're we're already accustomed to being told, you know, we're not worth it. So so when a girl flirts with us, you know, we're just kinda like, okay. That's she's just talking. She's being nice for a change. We don't take we don't even venture over to the, oh, hey. She's flirt me.
[01:42:10] Unknown:
Because we're fucking
[01:42:12] Rich Chelson:
stupid. Yeah. We're we're a little thick. A little thick and a little we totted. Yep.
[01:42:18] Duuude-Ron :
And you know what? A lot of us don't grow out of that ever. No. No. We don't. Amazing amazing how that works, isn't it? Right. I mean, took me a long time to figure that one out. Yeah. It took me a real long time to figure it out. I was a little slow.
[01:42:38] Unknown:
Well, trust me. I'm even slower. Because y'all know my y'all know my situation, but I'm not gonna broadcast it.
[01:42:49] Rich Chelson:
Yep. So Yep. No. That's fine. You don't have to we we don't require wire broadcasting of your issues unless you absolutely want to.
[01:43:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Thanks.
[01:43:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. This week, I I I well, shit. This week's almost over, isn't it? Dang. Yeah. Time time flies by quick.
[01:43:10] Rich Chelson:
Tell me.
[01:43:11] Unknown:
Well and we'll see tomorrow if I don't get just one paycheck instead of two.
[01:43:17] Duuude-Ron :
You'll I've already
[01:43:19] Unknown:
well, the Right. The the VA won't be touched.
[01:43:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Did you get paid from the VA yet?
[01:43:28] Unknown:
No. That won't happen until tomorrow.
[01:43:30] Duuude-Ron :
Till tomorrow? Okay. Yep. Okay. Because yeah. I, yeah, I got paid Wednesday.
[01:43:37] Unknown:
But but So your bank your bank releases it as soon as it drops from Yeah. The VA. Yeah. See, mine holds it until the first of the month.
[01:43:49] Duuude-Ron :
See, that's just that's just messed up because your bank knows it's coming every dad gum month. It's it's there.
[01:43:57] Unknown:
They know it. You're right. And you know why they do that?
[01:44:00] Duuude-Ron :
Why?
[01:44:01] Unknown:
Look how much interest that bank makes on hundreds of thousands deposits that they keep for two days, how much interest they make on that money.
[01:44:15] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, but still, that's rude. You've been with that bank for how long?
[01:44:21] Unknown:
Fucking twenty plus years.
[01:44:25] Duuude-Ron :
Right. So they could give you your money early and and and lose out on the whole, what, dollar 42 of interest they make? I mean, I don't I don't know how much interest they make.
[01:44:39] Unknown:
Oh, I get paid a a penny a month.
[01:44:43] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But still, that's that's just that's just rude, man. It's like cut the man's money loose. You know it's there. You know, it's it's sitting in the bank. Mhmm. You know? The bank has it. They're like, oh, no. Oh, no. Our precious. Our precious. Yep. Scared it. My bank says, hell no. Take it. Have at it. We'll freaking put it in the account and spend it.
[01:45:14] Unknown:
Hell, yeah. Because it's all gonna get spent on one thing anyway for the most part. It's all ones and zeros anyway.
[01:45:21] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that's It's not like it's cash.
[01:45:24] Unknown:
Yep. It goes from my account to another account just as quickly.
[01:45:31] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah. Trust me. Trust me. On Wednesday see, I got paid and see it went one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight accounts. Other accounts other than mine.
[01:45:46] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:45:48] Duuude-Ron :
Just on Wednesday. That's, mhmm, that's not counting the other 20 that I have yet to
[01:45:55] Unknown:
go through. Rep.
[01:45:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So so yeah. I mean, it didn't stay in my account long. And you
[01:46:05] Unknown:
does it ever?
[01:46:07] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. No. No. No. No. It it freaking went into everybody else's account Yeah. Instead of mine.
[01:46:16] Unknown:
Yeah. It's spent before it's made.
[01:46:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. But
[01:46:21] Unknown:
Because that's the American way. Absolutely. Credit card. And too bad we don't have the discipline like the Germans do.
[01:46:32] Duuude-Ron :
Do what?
[01:46:33] Unknown:
So too bad we don't have the discipline like the Germans do. What do you mean? They don't, for the most part, they do not finance a vehicle ever.
[01:46:44] Duuude-Ron :
Really?
[01:46:45] Unknown:
They go and pay cash. I got it. Because what they do is when they buy that new vehicle, they that next month, they put into a savings account, basically, a car payment. So they're paying themselves for another five years when they can go and pay cash for another one.
[01:47:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, wow. Okay. I see that.
[01:47:14] Unknown:
Not here.
[01:47:15] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, go ahead.
[01:47:17] Unknown:
Not here. No. No. Everybody's got everything fucking financed and paying interest rates out the ass and making minimum payments, and that's my life.
[01:47:33] Duuude-Ron :
And you see, that's the thing. It's not taught in schools anymore because Oh my boy. They they want they want everyone in debt. America wants everyone in debt and all like this, wherein other countries, they're taught fiscal responsibility still to this day.
[01:47:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And Wow. Yeah. No. They're they're slowly coming around around to to the American way of doing. They just actually let the governments over in Europe. The EU just gave gave the, the countries of the EU permission to go on ahead and go beyond go over budget on on their on what they're doing so that they can actually get ready for World War three since they, think think that it's World War three fixing a fire up. Against who? Russia.
[01:48:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, please.
[01:48:29] Rich Chelson:
Oh, they're working real hard at it. Shit. Well, I know, but they're working real hard at making that, making that the case.
[01:48:37] Duuude-Ron :
That's not a scare tactic.
[01:48:40] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. They're doing everything they possibly can to scare the booger out of out of the the, out of the citizens of of the EU. Wow. Well, let's hope I mean, that's one reason why Finland has told their told their people, hey. You need to go ahead and get start getting yourself, with a, like, a go bag set up and so in case you ever have to take off real quick. They've got an emergency kit. They give you, like, a little checklist, some crackers, and I'll think like a half gallon of of of, of water. It was like, okay. Yeah. That was a fucking joke.
[01:49:21] Duuude-Ron :
So Wow. I I mean, they you see that's and and if and if and if these people fall for it, I mean, I mean, Putin didn't have fire a shot. He can just walk in and just thump him on the head and take over. Because if people are that naive, if if they can be led by the nose like that, like like a lot of Americans are and other peoples of other countries, than I mean, world domination, I'm actually shocked we don't have it already. I'm glad we don't, but I'm kinda shocked we don't have it already just because of that fact. Because, you know, they use scare tactics and scare all these people into doing what the government freaking wants.
[01:50:17] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, that's they've they've been doing that for a while. I mean, that's why do you think so many kids have things like, climate anxiety now? Because schools and and and things like that and other organizations like that and on television and and the other medias that they they consume are always throwing the the the rap about, global warming. It's like global warming's happening. Global we're all gonna die if we get two degrees hotter. It's like, no. We just came out of a out of a, out of a CO two drought, and we're finally getting back up where we're supposed to be. You know what happens when the earth gets a little warmer? It gets a little greener. You know what happens when earth is a little greener?
You get more food. But they have to scare people into into go into being afraid of the fact that the earth might get be getting warm because if they if they don't, then they're gonna lose the lose some power.
[01:51:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well and they will. Oh, yeah. They will lose the power. That's why that's why they're they're freaking keeping this going and and keeping everyone so fucking wound up. And Yep. You know, if it's starting to spread over into other countries and stuff, I'm I mean I mean, this has been coming for the last fifty years. It's just it's just moving at, like, three times the speed that that it used to. Because back when we were growing up, we were still fighting it. Yeah. But everyone after us just rolled over and said, here's here. Screw me up the butt.
Well, that's true.
[01:52:07] Unknown:
Well, yeah, I'm using sand for lube.
[01:52:10] Duuude-Ron :
Right? Yeah. And that's just it's you see, this is what this is why this is why I don't I don't I don't follow this shit no more because it's stupid. It's it's you know, live your life. Don't worry about the world because whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Right. Nothing. Not a damn thing. Nothing. So live your life. If you wanna go and eat an apple in the middle of Main Street hanging on the flagpole nude, get her fucking done, buddy. I'm serious because nothing you do, think, say, whatever is gonna change anything in this world.
Nothing. Live your life how you wanna live your life and enjoy it to the fullest. That's the TSA I have for everybody.
[01:53:12] Unknown:
And the world will reclaim itself.
[01:53:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. It will in due time. Yep. But you know what? Go run around naked and hang on the flagpole and eat your apple and smile like a baby. Serious, man. That's you see, that's the thing. I mean, this is all so freaking simple. We don't need any of this, but everybody has to have something to worry about other than themselves because they don't want to deal with themselves is is the main problem.
[01:53:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:53:55] Duuude-Ron :
They wanna worry about everything else. No. Worry about yourself. Don't worry about me. Because I'm gonna tell you right now, if you tell me I gotta wear a mask or I gotta do this, I gotta do that, baby, I'm free white and over 21. I've been this way for a day or two. I ain't gonna do nothing I don't wanna do. I didn't do it the first time. I ain't gonna do it this time. And don't try and come in my house and steal anything because I'll shoot you first. Oh, damn, Brian.
[01:54:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, got to do it from time to time. I'll let you off the hook too many times.
[01:54:37] Duuude-Ron :
Shit.
[01:54:38] Rich Chelson:
You had me wound up last week, if I remember right. That wasn't no. No. That was that was that was Ron that did that one.
[01:54:48] Unknown:
Ron didn't last week. So so you was like, you I had to do it this week. Yeah. Yeah. I can't let Ron show me up. So, yeah, I was gonna say he's gonna he was gonna say, yep. My turn.
[01:54:59] Rich Chelson:
I don't even know why I don't even know what the hell I said to Wyoming. I can't, Honestly, I can't remember what it was either.
[01:55:06] Unknown:
Yep. You got wound up, and and then we'd start poking that bear and just keep the keep it the string nice and tight. Yeah.
[01:55:19] Duuude-Ron :
No. We don't need no. Because it gives me more gray hair, guys. I've got god. I got too much as it is. That's what we like. Be thankful be thankful you fucking have hair.
[01:55:30] Unknown:
It wasn't Okay. Why you little bitch.
[01:55:34] Duuude-Ron :
Well, if you want, I got hair. I I'll give it to you. I I'll share. I got enough.
[01:55:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. I'm used to this. I don't have to visit the barber. Don't have to pay those costs. I'm good to go. And bald is sexy. Now maybe only in my mind, but, hey. You know?
[01:55:56] Rich Chelson:
That's the only mind that matters. Pretty much. Yeah.
[01:56:01] Duuude-Ron :
See? You don't have to worry about anything. Just yourself.
[01:56:05] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right.
[01:56:08] Duuude-Ron :
So yeah. No. I just but you see, that's man. Oh god. I could just go on and on and on, but I gotta stop sometime.
[01:56:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Recommended.
[01:56:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But it's so hard to see all this stupidity, man. Is it that's that is my major problem. I have a hard time I have a hard time watching stupidity. I can laugh at it every once in a great while, but, god, not too long. Right. After a while, I just enough's enough. But y'all change the damn subject. My mind's one tracked right now.
[01:56:51] Unknown:
How can it be one tracked when y'all already lost a train, a cars, and and a caboose in the fucking canyon?
[01:56:59] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know, dude. I don't know. But but right now, my brain can't think of anything else but stupid people.
[01:57:08] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's kind of the point of, of, idiocracy, ain't it? Well, yeah. I mean ever see did y'all ever see that movie?
[01:57:17] Duuude-Ron :
What movie? Well, the movie Idiocracy. Didn't know it was a movie. Oh, god. Yeah. Okay. No. I have not seen it. It's
[01:57:27] Rich Chelson:
a it's a little bit older movie. I think it came out in, like, the What? '68? No. No. Not that old. It was it had done by Mike Judge. Let's see here. 2006.
[01:57:44] Unknown:
Mike Judge or Mike Judge or Judge Dad?
[01:57:50] Duuude-Ron :
Mike Judge.
[01:57:52] Rich Chelson:
Judge Judge. The king of the hill. Oh, yeah. Most of them, the one was Stallone and the other guy. But but, no, the the guy who created the King of the Hill, it he did the movie. And, basically, it is a, it is a a a movie about Stupidity. That yeah. That how society basically, basically got the old knowledge bred out of it.
[01:58:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I'm sitting here looking at the cast, and there's a couple people. One's name is Frito. Another one's character name is beef supreme.
[01:58:34] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:58:37] Duuude-Ron :
And there's a
[01:58:38] Rich Chelson:
Terry Crews' character.
[01:58:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my gosh. Yeah. No. That's that's a movie. I I could never watch that movie.
[01:58:47] Rich Chelson:
Never. Oh, you would watch it. You'd go, oh my god. That's that's happening right now.
[01:58:52] Duuude-Ron :
No. And see now you see this thing, I couldn't watch it because of that reason right there. I know. Well, I mean I mean, I have a hard enough time hearing about stupidity, but, like like, all them jackass movies or them one where they play practical jokes Yeah. Yeah. Jackass. I I can't I can't watch shows because it's too stupid. You know? It's like it's like, yeah. Some of the things might be funny, but just the stuff that they get people to do, it's like, oh my god. Are you really that gullible? I mean, if you are, you know, I need $500, man.
You know? Seriously, I need, you know, I need a thousand bucks. I don't care. Chill. I'll take a 100.
[01:59:44] Unknown:
I got a piece of desert dune in Louisiana. Right. Sitting right in the middle of the swamp.
[01:59:53] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:59:55] Unknown:
You wanna buy it? Sure. Sign me up. $100,000.
[02:00:02] Rich Chelson:
Hell, yeah. I
[02:00:04] Duuude-Ron :
I'll give you the friends and family discount. $89.09 95.
[02:00:11] Unknown:
Oh, for a second there. You know, I said a 100,000. I thought the friends and family discount was gonna be a 129,000.
[02:00:22] Duuude-Ron :
I am one of the nicer friends and family discounters. I'll actually take a few bucks off. Not many.
[02:00:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Gotcha.
[02:00:32] Duuude-Ron :
But yeah. No. I just yeah. So so, yeah, I can't watch movies like that. And and I'm not I'm not talking bad about about Britain or anything or England or anything like that. I just don't get their humor a lot of times because it's so dry.
[02:00:51] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:00:52] Duuude-Ron :
Sometimes oh my god. Sometimes I'm I'm I am damn near peeing my pants if it hits me right. But for the most part, I can watch, you know, a show from Britain because I've noticed Prime Video is is starting to play a lot of British shows. Right. Maybe a few other streaming services. And, you know, I watch them every so often, but, yeah, their their humor their humor gets lost on me. I don't know why. I mean, I don't know if if if I listen to it wrong or not in the right way or whatnot. But, yeah, I've never I've I've never been able to get their Humor.
[02:01:39] Unknown:
Well, there is a channel that has nothing. I can't remember if I get it or not on it. But there's a couple channels that are nothing but British shows. Right. Soap operas, murder dramas Dosies. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:02:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I've I've I've watched a few British movies and and independent movies, you know, that are from different countries, and I've seen some excellent freaking movies. I can't tell you their names, but, I mean, they're they're you know, if I saw them, I'd I'd remember them, but, you know, they were good movies, really good movies. You know? But, yeah, the humor just actually kinda gets lost on me.
[02:02:27] Unknown:
Yeah. It's it's nice and dry.
[02:02:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Which I mean is fine.
[02:02:33] Unknown:
I like the tone in my in my voice. Just nice and dry.
[02:02:38] Duuude-Ron :
No. Not you, dude.
[02:02:39] Unknown:
Just nice monotone voice.
[02:02:42] Duuude-Ron :
Lows you right to sleep, doesn't it?
[02:02:46] Unknown:
Or the people that I'm talking to. Or or when I was instructing, I put, yeah, I could put your ass to sleep.
[02:02:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I don't doubt that. I tried to go to sleep anytime I was in the classroom when I was in basic. I was trying to catch sleep any chance I got. I just I just I just had to do it to make sure the instructor didn't see me.
[02:03:16] Unknown:
Yeah. I checked it. Chucked quite a few erasers in my instructor days when we still had the privilege of being able to do so.
[02:03:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Well, we'd get smoked. God. I hated that. You're gonna do push ups till I get tired. Damn. Oh, damn. Oh, damn. Oh, yeah.
[02:03:46] Unknown:
And then turn around and do the dang cockroach.
[02:03:49] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, fuck. I hate the dying cockroach. I hate the dying cockroach. That that that was a oh, man. That would tear you up something bad.
[02:04:00] Unknown:
Yep. Or ride riding the Harley.
[02:04:04] Duuude-Ron :
I never had to do that.
[02:04:07] Unknown:
But you know what it is. Right?
[02:04:09] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah.
[02:04:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Brian, don't you like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? Not a clue.
[02:04:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:04:17] Unknown:
Well, dude Oh, see, dying cockroach is actually what it says, dying cockroach. Lay down on your back and keep your legs and arms extended out until the instructor gets tired.
[02:04:29] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:04:30] Unknown:
Yeah. That was brutal.
[02:04:32] Rich Chelson:
Yes. And
[02:04:33] Unknown:
then riding a Harley, you have your back against the wall, but you're squatted to where your lap Oh, okay. Well, that's and hold your arms out holding the pretend handlebars.
[02:04:49] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah.
[02:04:50] Unknown:
Yeah. See how long you can do that for.
[02:04:53] Rich Chelson:
Not long. Nope. No. Usually, it wasn't.
[02:04:58] Duuude-Ron :
But don't you dare don't you dare drop your hands or legs if you're doing a dying cockroach. Because if you drop them, guess what? Everybody's gotta do it all over again. Yep. Yep. Oh, yeah. Those god, those were hell.
[02:05:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Something of what cannot even fucking be done anymore whatsoever.
[02:05:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't know about that. Since they take in all these rules, they might be going back to it.
[02:05:31] Unknown:
Right. They may be going back to it, but they're not they can't be done right now. And, you know, I always got more outcome from corrective actions like that like that than I ever did with a counseling statement.
[02:05:52] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
The point came across a lot more
[02:05:58] Rich Chelson:
vivid. Sutta like. Yeah.
[02:06:00] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you see, the thing is, a counseling statement, that can be that's that's nothing because it it doesn't go on your permanent record. Well, it does, but it doesn't really mean anything.
[02:06:16] Unknown:
Right. Until they get stacked up, and then you get an article 15.
[02:06:20] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. But if you didn't get a lot, they'd never get stacked up, so you could get an article 15.
[02:06:29] Unknown:
That's right.
[02:06:30] Duuude-Ron :
Ask me how I know.
[02:06:33] Rich Chelson:
Right. Rich,
[02:06:35] Unknown:
how do you know?
[02:06:36] Duuude-Ron :
Because I got quite a few of them and never ever got an article 15. And don't ask me how I pulled that one off because I was a mean motherfucker, and I didn't care what rank you were. I do not know how I went through my military career without an article 15. I'm glad I didn't have any, but yeah.
[02:07:01] Unknown:
I doubt For the physical aspect, it always seemed to change an attitude a lot better than a fucking writing shit down on a piece of paper.
[02:07:13] Rich Chelson:
I believe that.
[02:07:15] Unknown:
Oh, and you we're talking about basic training before. Let's see. I came in to basic training in 1986, so that's been ninety six, o six, sixteen, forty years ago. I still yep. I still remember my drill sergeant's name. Senior drill sergeant. Drill sergeant Kenuela.
[02:07:44] Duuude-Ron :
Kenuela.
[02:07:45] Unknown:
Kenuela.
[02:07:47] Rich Chelson:
It's a hell of a name.
[02:07:48] Unknown:
Yep. He was born and raised in the Samoan Islands, and that dude just, like, hit my sternum with his fucking brown round Anytime he was able to because that's how short he was. And you talk a Samoan, and he had the flattest, flattest face of anybody I've ever met. Now It's flat. My drill,
[02:08:17] Duuude-Ron :
I remember my drill. I drilled certain banks, and he wasn't short. Oh, hell no. He was six foot. And then and, he, definitely enjoyed getting up in my face. Now, we did have in, second platoon. I was in third platoon. In second platoon, we had, we had a drill sergeant by the name of drill sergeant Cowan. He little short, slide off little fucker. Had this high pitched voice, and it was funny. A friend of mine, I didn't know a dude. Dude missed his calling. Dude was an artist first first off, but he could also do voices. And he could do the perfect drill sergeant voice.
Right? And we had we were do doing the night fire range or, yeah, the live fire range. And, we got through and, you know, we were all coming through. We were sitting in the bleachers and all, and now it about the time everyone got done, it was like daylight. It was like just getting daylight. And we're all talking amongst ourselves and all like this. And all of a sudden, he just pops up with this perfect drill sergeant, Cowan, saying and and started talking like him. And then about thirty seconds later, drill sergeant Cowan come up and started talking.
Everybody in the bleachers busted the gut. Jills hard and Cowen pulled us out of bleachers and smoked our ass right there. Oh god. I don't know how many of us because I think all four platoons were there. So there was 60 of my platoons, so there was, what, 242 somewhere around 240 soldiers that got smoked at once by, Joe Sergeant Cowan. Oh my god. That was that was freaking hilarious. I lost touch with that guy. Last name was Mullen. I'll never forget him. He was because we was in AIT. He was he was gonna be a mechanic, and the notes he took, he would draw pictures.
And I mean it I mean, look. He draw three d pictures of shit.
[02:10:48] Unknown:
And
[02:10:49] Duuude-Ron :
the instructor come walking around. He said, Mullin, you missed your fucking calling. What the hell are you doing in my army? And he's like, why the hell are you here, man? He's like, damn. You're an artist. But I don't remember what he said, but, yeah, he could do he could do drill sergeant. But, yeah, Joe Sergeant Banks, Tallahlenkee, motherfucker. Made, he he told us on the first day, I'll never forget this, we standing out there. You know? I mean, we didn't know shit from China. It was it was it was after we got out of in processing and we got to our barracks. Banks pulled us out.
And he was talking to us. He said, listen, you motherfuckers. I I I've got 60 of you motherfuckers here right in front of me right now. I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm gonna graduate 60 of you motherfuckers. Ain't none of you leaving. He graduated all 60 of us, and and we all made it. He didn't cut us no slack. And, he made another quarter. Oh, he I mean I mean, I loved him. He was hard as shit, but, oh my god, he was he was awesome. They were funny now. Tall black guy. Tall skinny black guy. Mhmm. So, yeah, this that that was that was my foray into basic training at the lovely Fort Jackson, South Carolina.
[02:12:25] Rich Chelson:
Fort Jackson.
[02:12:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yes, sir. Stayed there for AIT too. Oh, there you go. Yep. I didn't have to go nowhere. And, honestly, I didn't like AIT as much as I like basic, to be honest with you. But it was funny when we got to AIT. Right? See, I was there's this one guy I was hanging with Ott, o t t. Mel Ott was his name. And, he, me and him went up to the PX and everything. And we had just walked out, and here comes drill sergeant Calvin. Boy, boy, we snapped too. How you doing, drill sergeant? Drill sergeant Calvin comes up. He says, fellers, he says, y'all are in AIT. Right?
Yes, drill sergeant. He's like, stop calling me drill sergeant. Just call me sergeant. Yes, drill sergeant. We didn't know because I mean I mean, you you just said, you know, you we're in AIT, and, I mean, that was that was that was that was part of our cadre. You know? It's like Right. Drill sergeant. And, you know, he he was wearing a brown round. You know? And it's like, uh-uh. You drill sergeant. You gonna smoke us if if we don't call you. You know? Oh, no. He was like, no. Just just call me sergeant. Yes, drill sergeant.
[02:13:59] Unknown:
Because that is how you were trained.
[02:14:02] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, exactly. Exactly.
[02:14:05] Unknown:
Try trying to unwire that, yeah, no. That ain't gonna happen. Not easy. Yep. No. It That that hardwiring does not get easily unwired.
[02:14:20] Duuude-Ron :
Exactly. Oh, that's like that's like even today, if I met one in uniform. How you doing, Joe Sardon? It it would just it it's just it's natural for me. You know?
[02:14:33] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[02:14:34] Duuude-Ron :
And it's been, what, thirty four years since I got out? Thirty five years, something like that. Wow. Yeah. And so so, yeah, it's still yeah. It would still be a challenge for me to say anything but. Right. So well, look. You don't see too many many of them over at the VA. No. That is true. I do not. But if I did see one, I'd pry I'd price hey. And you know what's funny? What you wanna bet? Lot of them other old timers too would say the same thing. How you doing drill sergeant? Not a drill sergeant. I bet you right now, I see a eighty eighty year old man walking down in a walker. Can't hardly walk. How you doing drill sergeant? Knowing that and and the thing is the drill sergeant would just smile because knowing that that 80 year old man probably was a drill sergeant before he, was ever thought of.
[02:15:35] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:15:36] Duuude-Ron :
You know?
[02:15:37] Unknown:
Very much so. Oh, yeah. No. I just you know? But the position earns the title.
[02:15:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep.
[02:15:50] Unknown:
And you'll it'll never change. You see somebody with a brown round what's up, Jill Sart? That's right. Always.
[02:16:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Brian, that's like with you. You you know, if you saw someone who, you know, who had a hat on that, you know, had, like, the rank of master chief,
[02:16:13] Rich Chelson:
you might say, hey, master chief. Just Not a yeah. No. It'd be a master chief. Yeah. I'd I'd I'd, you know, recognize the the the the rank for sure. Right? So yeah. Yeah. It's it was be one of those where yeah. We didn't have the the distinguished big round brimmed hat that was that y'all did. It was just I they had their cover, which, like I said, 99% of the time, I think it for for some reason, it's hot bumps in my head. And the audience, if you're if I'm if I'm wrong on that, please correct me. Because like I said, it's been thirty plus year or thirty around thirty years since I've been, been, in the Navy. So so there's a good chance I have forgotten details that you might, remember may have to bring old old, Scott into this because, hell, he's he seems to have a memory of this stuff a lot more than I do. So Right.
But but, yeah, I'm just thinking that they've seemed to always wore, just ball caps for some reason.
[02:17:27] Duuude-Ron :
It's it's very possible. You see, that's where I don't know the navy is, you know, in their in their stuff, so I cannot come in.
[02:17:39] Rich Chelson:
Nor I. And I was there.
[02:17:44] Duuude-Ron :
You had too many drunk nights afterwards.
[02:17:46] Rich Chelson:
Hell, yeah. But let's see what else is happening in the world today. I hadn't actually looked looked much in the way of news. Really don't know much what's going on these days. According to Daily Mail. See. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Everyone's still talking about prince Andrew who is no longer prince Andrew. Yes. He's been banished Okay. For his, for his part with with, with Epstein.
[02:18:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, that's that's, again, something that's smoke and mirrors because there's a lot of people that was knowing Epstein. Not saying all of them were bad or anything or did anything wrong, but, you know, if you're gonna get banned for, whatever with a person, Just don't go after one person. Go after everybody else Right. Is what I'm saying.
[02:18:51] Rich Chelson:
Yep. True true true.
[02:18:55] Duuude-Ron :
But it seems like they pick and choose just to pacify people.
[02:19:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. They do often. So let's see here.
[02:19:05] Duuude-Ron :
And everyone else gates off because they say, look. See over here. See over here. While they're letting everybody run away over here.
[02:19:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was seeing that there was quite a few, people are getting a little more a little more tired and a little tired over in Great Britain, and the hijinks they're playing over there. So so here soon, who knows? Maybe they'll, actually, snap out of it and realize the people of the of that air of of Great Britain don't care to hear about, about how diversity is their greatest strength because it's not. You bring people who are with a third world mindset into into a first world, it becomes the lowest common denominator, and that's the big problem.
[02:19:59] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:20:00] Rich Chelson:
I just catch there we go. Whatever reason, my phone wouldn't was charging, then it stopped charging. It start charging again, stop charging. God damn it. Still doing it. Let's pull the plug and let's move it. Yeah. Let's see here. How do we, dogs? What group? Yeah. You know, it's sad. It
[02:20:27] Duuude-Ron :
you know, it's sad we have to go to Europe to find news because the news over here,
[02:20:33] Rich Chelson:
Oh, doesn't, yeah. They don't report anything here. No. They don't. You know?
[02:20:39] Duuude-Ron :
It's it it it's sad. You know?
[02:20:42] Unknown:
It is. It is.
[02:20:44] Rich Chelson:
Because, you know, we got quite a few I mean, quite a few stories running around, but all of it mostly is, you know, everybody trying to find a way of stopping Trump. And I'm sorry. That just gets a little old after a while. Yes, Hank. It's like, okay. You're not going to stop the man. He is going to do what he needs to do, and he's feels called to do. He has spent his entire life finding ways of running around Democrats and their dumbass excuses. He lived in New York City of all damn places, so he knows how they work. And so just astounds me that they're always like, oh my god. He's he's just over he's over, you know, running over everybody. He's saying, no. No. Not really. He's just doing what needs to be done.
And just because you don't want it let's see. King Charles's party produce Kent's ninetieth. Shocking TV shows. Shocking CCTV shows, a balaclava, plat team playing chicken with a high speed train at level crossing. Well, you know, fuck around. You're gonna find out. So we'll see here. Yeah. Just not really much in the way of news. See what we got on Fox News.
[02:22:09] Duuude-Ron :
There's probably not much there either.
[02:22:11] Rich Chelson:
Nah. Probably need to jump over to Twitter and
[02:22:14] Duuude-Ron :
Oh god.
[02:22:15] Rich Chelson:
Oh, Twitter's better news than any of the other places. So Yeah.
[02:22:23] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know about that, but then again, I don't play much on Twitter.
[02:22:28] Rich Chelson:
Let's see here. Trending. There we go. Something about Dolphin Sports trending. It's oh, okay. I guess Miami. I don't know. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. I mean, it's all just sports. It's like, come on, man. There is more important rap in the world than sports ball. Sports. Sports. Sports. Come on. It's gonna be see trending news. Speculation rises. JB Pritzker's February amid Trump feuds and ex mockery. Oh, JB Pritzker is. Yeah. UK is still stuck in the woke world. Minneapolis mayor candidate May Omar about the waves, the Somali flag at voter rally.
[02:23:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's that's something else I don't get.
[02:23:25] Rich Chelson:
Mandami? Yeah. Over the the soon to be mayor of New York.
[02:23:30] Duuude-Ron :
Well well, him or or or, Ilhan Omar or whatnot. Yeah. Whatever the hell their name is. I mean, are they actually American citizens? Has it been checked? I I think because because, actually, if if they are American citizens, then Ilhan Omar, her statements about death to America and all like that negate her citizenship. I would think. I don't know for sure. I don't know the law. But, I mean, I think during the interview, don't they ask if if you will, accept America as your own country? Johnson. Because they And and and if she's not an American citizen, how didn't she get elected president?
Or not president.
[02:24:29] Rich Chelson:
But Representative?
[02:24:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Representative or whatnot.
[02:24:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. She is a naturalized citizen. Became a US citizen in 2000 when she was 17.
[02:24:42] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. And so wouldn't her comments negate the citizenship?
[02:24:49] Rich Chelson:
No. Because once you are an actual citizen, then you are an actual citizen. A lot of the people, like, what who ICE is taking off running off with or their people are claiming they're running off with, and and people are saying, well, they had protective status. That doesn't mean you get to sit and do whatever you want. It's not doesn't mean they're protected protected citizen of The US. They're still a a foreign national living in The US. They just have a protected status that, is able to be reversed. Right. And so, yeah, it got re it gets reversed, and they go back to to, the the their country of origin, and the left doesn't like that.
And, yeah, their stories the stories in through the lens that they're telling makes it look like it's horrible. They're taking kids and stuff like this. No. No. Not necessarily true. And if they are, good. I would hate to have kids left behind in The US whose parents were were shipped off into, to to their back to their home country. I'd rather have the kids go with the parents, but that way, you know, we keep the families together. Because if we do are separating the families, then that's not a good look either. That's the worst look in my book. Right?
Loran Mandami is his name.
[02:26:21] Unknown:
Well, okay.
[02:26:24] Rich Chelson:
He is wanting to be the, aiming at becoming the the mayor of New York.
[02:26:31] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I had saw an article on that couple weeks back, and I just I'm like, if if they're gonna let him become mayor of New York, that's just crazy.
[02:26:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. And he is he's fix to show him exactly what, what socialism does. Because hell, you've already got many of the many of the wealthy leaving the leaving the city and moving to, like, North and South Carolina because he's wanting to add a if you, I think if you earn over a million dollars in a year, he's gonna tack on a special 2% tax. And then it's like, no. I'm sorry. But to to punish someone who has gotten successful
[02:27:18] Duuude-Ron :
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Since when does a mayor have that fucking ability? Doesn't the freaking, down here down here, we call it the the chancery court or whatever, something like that. Doesn't the aldermans and the board of director or board or whatever, the town board, aren't they the ones that said that, not the freaking mayor? It depends on what type of government they have set up. I mean well, now I say that, and then I think back to, Rudy Giuliani when he was mayor, and he did a lot of shit without people's permission. But he he actually did a good thing for New York at the time. Oh, yeah. No. Like, the,
[02:28:05] Rich Chelson:
the whole no broken window philosophy. So if any building in downtown had a broken window, they would replace it the same as any of the, subways. If there was any, any, graffiti put on the, on the on the subway cars, they would take it out of service, clean it up, and put it back into into service again. And it took a while for people to start going, well, it's no fun destroying shit. Now you actually gotta take pride in your shit. Sure enough, people started taking pride in their stuff.
[02:28:41] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:28:42] Rich Chelson:
But it it takes a while. And what Mondami is doing is size for well, let's see. Let's see if I can find and promise it helps me spell promises. Yeah. He wants to freeze rent. That'll destroy people. Free buses. Yeah. Where's that money coming from?
[02:29:08] Duuude-Ron :
Free rent. Free buses.
[02:29:10] Rich Chelson:
Yep. You can't do it. Start up the Department of Community Safety, and all New Yorkers deserve to be safe. But the Adams administration has failed to deliver the sense of safety, security that everyone should feel walking it down our own streets. Then start arresting criminals. That's how you make people feel safe. And don't just sit there and go, okay. Well, we put locked them up, stuck them in the jail. Thirty minutes later, hit they're out they're out again on, you know, their own recognizance recognizance.
[02:29:43] Duuude-Ron :
And what are the cops gonna do while he's doing all this?
[02:29:48] Rich Chelson:
Let's see here. Zoran will create department of community safety to prevent violence before it happens by prioritizing solutions, which have been constitution consistently shown to improve safety. So I guess we could use the we could use the army's example on that and start making anytime you're out and about, you gotta start wearing a safety belt. One has to have a safety belt. Go on the chow, put your safety belt on. Wow. But right now, we're lying on see here. Police have have a critical role to play, but right now, we're relying on them to deal with the failures of our social safety net. Yeah. And that and that there's what's problem is you think you have to have a social safety net.
Social safety net is if you fuck up, you pay the price, which prevents them from doing their actual jobs. What their actual jobs is supposed to correct cry correct is to to handle crime. This is new city agency in the whole of government approach, whole of government approach. Government takes on everything. That's definitely not a good thing. The community safety will be prioritized like never before. Almost sounds like, government safety will bend up there. The community safety will end up being like the, kinda like OSHA for, for everybody.
You're gonna start getting fined because, you know, you were doing something that's not safe for you. You get hurt by walking backwards down the down the sidewalk. That's a $150 fine right there.
[02:31:26] Unknown:
Wow. Yes. That'd be a sign.
[02:31:29] Rich Chelson:
Somebody called me. Officer gives you a ticket because you called somebody a knucklehead. Well, he could get mad and punch you in the face. I'm saving your life. Pay this $150 fine. I'm sure it's something that's gonna be something like that. See here. Anyhow, so what else does he got? No cost childcare? Oh, this is gonna fail miserably. City owned grocery stores. That they've tried these multiple times, and they never work. They have out of stock out of date stock. They have shortages of stock. They can't the government can't run a business.
You cannot run a business through bureaucracy. It is flat out impossible. That's why things even like the post office are actually privatized. They catch subsidies from the government, but but as a whole, they are they're privatized. They're it's a private entity. Housing by and for New York, we need a lot more affordable housing, which will build housing in the in the rundown places, but we're not about to build more housing in in the rich places. Get down on bad landlords. Well, you do that, you're gonna create a whole lot more bad landlords with that rent freeze. So you better get, you're fixing to have a whole lot more, fines and and and absentee, landlords running around.
Taxes on big corporations and the wealthiest New Yorkers. Yep. That's what I was telling you about. Revenue will plan will raise the corporate tax rate. Tomas, New Jersey is 11.5% bringing in $5,000,000,000, and he will tax the wealthiest 1% of New Yorkers who's earning above $1,000,000 annually, a flat two percent tax. Right now, see the income tax see, they got a city income tax in New York. Oh. Not only do you pay New York state income tax, you pay New York City income tax. And I'm surprised you don't play Bronx income tax on top of that. I'm sure you might not even have to.
Just wait. It's coming. I mean, now you have to pay a tax to go in and out of the the city as it is. Yeah. Because the tunnels and bridges have all got, are all tolls.
[02:33:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But there there are only tolls going in, coming out. They're free. Oh, are they? Yeah. Unless they change, but I I don't I don't I don't think they have. Going in, yes. Yes. You have to pay one way or another.
[02:34:13] Rich Chelson:
Departing homeowners and ending deep theft. City owned grocery stores, fast, fair, free buses. You can choose two only. Oh, no. It's fast, fare free buses. So fast, free buses. So exploiting fighting corporate exploitation, which you do that. You let the people decide, hey. You know what? I don't wanna have use you as a, as a company anymore. I'm gonna use company b. They vote with their wallet. Yeah. No cost childcare, baby baskets for New York born newborns. Who does baby baskets? Oh, no. What's their k through 12? How those schools are fully funded? Oh, please. Good god. You can't fully fund a fucking school because you got the teachers union wanting their wanting to take their 75%.
[02:35:08] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:35:10] Rich Chelson:
But, dude, you you know it's after ten. Right? Holy shit. It is after ten. You got me rolling on on on on a socialist. So so yeah. Yeah. It is after after ten. So, anyhow, guys, well, it's time to go ahead and roll this, jet on into the, into the airport and say thank you very much to everyone who has taken the time to, listen and and hear what we have say and what we're talking about. And, we are just a collection of three guys. We're we're three good friends and that we have been meeting with each other on online for, oh, at least at least 2020, maybe a little to well, twenty twenty one ish, two. So for for several years. And so we said, you know what? Let's turn this into a into a podcast. And so we've been doing this for a little over a year now and been having a good time doing it. Just sit down and talk about what's on our mind, what we're going through, what we're having, what struggles we're doing, what what aggravations we have, wins or losses and all that good stuff.
But we also like to hear from you. We do a lot of our own talking, but love to be able to hear from what y'all have to say. What do y'all think of the show? What do y'all have to say? You know, was I wrong somewhere? What is you know, like I say, what type of hats are the navy, drill sergeants wear? I I can't even remember what the petty officers wear. If they could call them petty officers with the watch, I think, you know, a lot, they're divisional petty officers. I can't remember what they're what they're even they're called. But, hey. So what is it what type of, headwear do they do they have?
And why don't if you if you have a better idea of what it is and and stuff, especially, like, back in the late nineties whenever I was in the, in the navy, then that would be, I'd love to hear from you. You could shoot me an email over at [email protected], or you can get ahold of Rich over at r chelson, and that's [email protected]. And let us know what you think. Well, you know, are we doing great? Are we doing bad? Are we, was I being a complete and total moron with something I said? Love to be able to be told that. I love to have a conversation with it. So, with that, if you, if you wanna be able to support the show, we do a a little bit different way of supporting the show, which is that we do value for value, and that is through time, talent, or treasure. You can provide your time. You provide your talent of whatever it is you have, or you could provide treasure.
And the treasure, if you are interested in doing that, you can actually just go on to any podcasting two point o app, and you can get those over at podcastapps,withans,.com. And there, you can find a podcasting app that'll fit your the type of phone that you have, Android or iOS or or what. And what feature, podcasting two point o features you wanna wanna use. And, you can, you can find a an app that is custom made almost for you. And you can if you have something like like Guest Guru, True Fans, something like that, you can actually hit support this show, and it'll pop up a, a link to the link to, our PayPal page where you can actually provide a a deposit, and you support the show in whatever denomination you see see fit. And what whatever that amount is, that is completely up to you. And so with that, guys, I'm gonna say thank you again. And, Rich, what do you have to say?
[02:39:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, not too much. Just wanna thank y'all for listening and keep coming back. And just looked at our numbers earlier, and looks like we're gonna have about the same number of downloads this month as we have had last month. So thank you, and please keep telling your friends, your family, your loved ones, hell, tell someone you hate. We don't care. And, yeah, reach out to us. Say, hey. How you doing? How's your mama and them? You know? And send us an email, [email protected] or Brian there at [email protected]. And if you wanna hear the wisdom of the dude, send it to me or Brian, and we'll make sure the dude gets it, and we will make sure to pass on the wisdom of the dude.
So that's about all I got. Again, thanks for listening. Keep coming back, and, we'll be looking for you next week. Dude, what you got?
[02:40:06] Unknown:
Hemorrhoids.
[02:40:07] Rich Chelson:
Hey. There he is. Yeah. I thought he passed out on us. I I was for a moment, but then I heard the call call call test. It's a there was a door or something shutting. So I was like, I was in the window. He fell over. Yeah. Y'all almost was out.
[02:40:26] Unknown:
But, of course, that's that's what happens when you're up at 04:00 in the morning.
[02:40:31] Rich Chelson:
That's right. But
[02:40:34] Unknown:
no. Everybody listened. We enjoy you coming back to hear us and and repeatedly come back. And, we just enjoyed having the conversations that we have. And if you feel that they're funny, interesting, you know, please allow your friends to or let up let your friends know, hey. This is what I'm listening to. Please give these guys a listen and see if you like it.
[02:41:04] Rich Chelson:
Absolutely. So alright. Well, Rich, Ron, I appreciate it. Y'all coming on and joining joining up again this week and hopefully next week. My voice will actually be a little bit, a little bit better. My the the frog is is in completely. I sound like, oh, dude. I was doing too much, mister Johnson. So but, but, anyhow, guys, y'all take care. Y'all be safe on the hell you're out and about driving. And, Rich, don't let those don't let those hand radio guys abduct you or anything.
[02:41:43] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. I won't.
[02:41:46] Rich Chelson:
And we'll, we'll talk to y'all next week. To the listeners, we'll see y'all next week also. Till then. Bye. Peace. Peace out. Alright. Later, guys. Later, guys.
[02:41:59] Duuude-Ron :
Bye.
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living and having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan Rich and the Duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
Brian There we are.
[00:00:37] Duuude-Ron :
Mister Brian. Hello.
[00:00:40] Rich Chelson:
How are you? Oh, I'm doing good. Got a little suggestion going on, but other than that, I'm doing alright.
[00:00:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that sucks, man. How'd you how'd that happen?
[00:00:49] Rich Chelson:
Well, my granddaughter infected my wife, and then my wife went off and infected me. Well, how rude. I know. I know. I kept telling her that, and she's she's feigning that she's all all sorry and stuff, but, you know, I think she did it on purpose.
[00:01:06] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. She's rude.
[00:01:09] Rich Chelson:
It's just all out rude. But
[00:01:12] Duuude-Ron :
so you got fucking cold down here. Yeah. Oh my god, dude. I have been
[00:01:21] Rich Chelson:
oh, yeah. I have been I think so, but, you know, my wife is asking if if our noodles are done. We have had a comment. We've had a bite this whole week about whether a noodle whether I cook noodles long enough or not. It's all soft and squishy, so I think they're done. According to her, I'm sure I'm sure she thinks they're still wrong and crunchy.
[00:01:41] Duuude-Ron :
Well, how long do you cook noodles for? I cook them until they're al dente. Okay.
[00:01:47] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Well, they're not crunchy. They're firm. Yeah. How are you supposed to cook them?
[00:01:53] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:01:54] Rich Chelson:
Jenna likes them soggy and limp.
[00:01:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no.
[00:01:59] Rich Chelson:
No. That's just rude. She was just like, catch up.
[00:02:04] Duuude-Ron :
It's rude, I tell you. Rude.
[00:02:06] Rich Chelson:
I'm on the couch. He's already told me I'm on the couch now.
[00:02:11] Duuude-Ron :
No. That's uh-uh. No. Yeah. No.
[00:02:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think it's about top media head back to the to the trailer. The missus is getting ready to excommunicate me daily.
[00:02:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I, yeah, I I mean, I don't set a timer when I cook my noodles. I go by taste. Right. You know? But about seven, eight minutes is about Yeah. About eight minutes is what I usually
[00:02:39] Rich Chelson:
usually do. My rice is the same way.
[00:02:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Rice, I've well, I've got a rice cooker. I'll just throw it in. You know, throw the rice in, fill it with water. Right. Let it go. When it switches to warm, they're done. It's done. So I just I cheat there.
[00:02:59] Rich Chelson:
Alright.
[00:03:00] Duuude-Ron :
Man, I tell you what, I made man, I tell you what. If you ain't ever had cornbread made the proper way, if if all you could get actual,
[00:03:12] Rich Chelson:
like, actual tape corn meal itself and turn it into cornbread? Yes, sir. I've not ever done that, actually. I have never had
[00:03:20] Duuude-Ron :
I did it for the first time tonight. Oh my god. It makes Jiffy cornbread mix taste like candy.
[00:03:30] Rich Chelson:
Because that yeah. Freak Oh, yeah. No. Jiffy sticks a lot of sugar in their stuff. Oh, yeah. No. Bread, and I like sweet cornbread. I'm I'm a sweet cornbread fan. I'd
[00:03:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I mean, but but, see, making it with, I made it with cornmeal and, you know, I put I put all the ingredients in, and it only called for a quarter cup of sugar, which it didn't really sweeten it. It just it just kinda, I guess, I don't know, even the flavor out or something. Yeah. But, man, I tell you what, cornbread made from cornmeal, you ought to try that shit. That's some good stuff. Because I made, well, I made my version of ham and beans.
[00:04:14] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:04:15] Duuude-Ron :
I used smoked turkey necks, so which turned out really well, actually.
[00:04:22] Rich Chelson:
What's that? Dude. What's up, man? What's up? Well, same old, same old.
[00:04:30] Duuude-Ron :
I hear you.
[00:04:32] Unknown:
So how'd you like those memes I sent you tonight?
[00:04:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Those most of those pretty damn funny. That one about the Cybertruck from Timu, that was funny.
[00:04:44] Unknown:
Yeah. It was. That was freaking hilarious.
[00:04:49] Duuude-Ron :
That was just kinda I was just And now I
[00:04:53] Unknown:
yeah. It was. I was flipping through and came upon a picture, and I'm like, what the fuck? Basically, the the comment is like I don't even remember what the fuck it said. If it it could it can't get any stupider than this. They have made a cargo shell for the fucking Cybertruck.
[00:05:20] Rich Chelson:
Cargo shell for the Cybertruck. It goes over the bed like a pickup truck? A ton of walk back up. Like, is it like a grand like grandpa's, pickup used to have is the little the little cover. Yeah. Why? Well, why why the Cybertruck to begin with? I mean, but that's just that's kind of a dumb question. Sorry.
[00:05:42] Unknown:
Right. Well, it it was like the Pontiac Silhouette, the van that had the real long nose on it.
[00:05:50] Rich Chelson:
Well, not the, it was Silverado. It was at the, the Aztec.
[00:05:56] Unknown:
Well, one company had the Aztec. One company had the Silhouette. So there was two manufacturers of that same stupid ass van.
[00:06:06] Rich Chelson:
Right. Ugly as sin.
[00:06:09] Unknown:
Right. One of my one of my team chiefs fucking had one of those and just absolutely loved it. And I'm like, yes. You're right. You there is no in between. You either love it or you hate it. There's nothing in between. In between. Right. That's like the the Gladiator, the pickup truck. You love it or you hate it. Patrick has a Gladiator. Gladiator? Yep. I can't fucking stand him. I'm still gonna go on wheel with him, but I wouldn't own one. And the same way with fucking these damn the fucking Cybertruck. You either love them or you hate them. There is no in between. And now they're making a camper shell.
Yeah. Now they're making a camper shell for the fucking Cybertrucks. I'm like, if it wasn't if it wasn't worse before, it's even fucking more ugly now.
[00:07:11] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:07:12] Unknown:
And god only knows how much one of those fucking covers cost. Right. I bet you they're a good fucking $34,000.
[00:07:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, if it's made out of stainless steel, probably. Let me look it up.
[00:07:27] Unknown:
I didn't even get that far. I saw the picture, and I'm like Oh, you just had a meltdown, dude. Yeah. Pretty much.
[00:07:35] Duuude-Ron :
I know you.
[00:07:37] Unknown:
I shook my head. I looked at the picture. I shook my head. I rolled my eyes and just said why.
[00:07:45] Rich Chelson:
Why? What are they trying to fucking do? Why? Why? I don't think that's the
[00:07:51] Duuude-Ron :
right one. See, the Cybertruck only cost oh, hang on. Maybe I put in one too many words. You can buy a Cybertruck brand new for 70,000.
[00:08:03] Unknown:
Okay. That's it. That is absolutely great. How much are the fucking accessories gonna cost you?
[00:08:10] Duuude-Ron :
Hold on. I'm trying to find out.
[00:08:14] Rich Chelson:
Well, I know some of the something like, BMW, if you want, like, these, quote, unquote, sport package, which is just a change up in the in the, in the cars on the not hardware, but the the firmware in the firmware settings, they'll actually have it where if you wanna have your BMW electric be able to go fast, you actually it is a car as a service. So you have to pay a monthly service fee of however much so you can take your car take a BMW electric car and be able to go faster in it.
[00:08:54] Unknown:
Of course. Now the accessories that I was talking about is a home charging station to fucking have your house wired for it. You know, god only knows what that runs.
[00:09:07] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it's not that hard. You just gotta run it two twenty line from, you know, from the box.
[00:09:15] Unknown:
I ain't running I ain't running shit because I'm never on one. Me? I like fossil fuels. Hell, yeah. Because nobody nobody in twenty years is going to hot rod a Cybertruck.
[00:09:37] Duuude-Ron :
Cybertruck's pretty fucking fast.
[00:09:41] Unknown:
Okay. But you know what? When you hot rod a 1929 Ford pickup truck, that look cool as all get out.
[00:09:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. We know if you hot rod a '29 Ford pickup truck, the panties come off. If you hot rod a 2025 cyber truck yeah. In twenty years. Clothes go on.
[00:10:05] Unknown:
Yeah. In twenty years, they will be an antique. Right? But will any of them survive to twenty years?
[00:10:13] Rich Chelson:
Because they're I think there'll be some that survive it by in twenty years, but they'll also end up being you know, kinda there'll be an oddity like the, the gremlin.
[00:10:25] Unknown:
Have you ever seen a tubbed out gremlin? Nope. Fucking hilarious. It's cool, but it's hilarious. There was a as a matter of fact, there was a gremlin down at, cruising the coast.
[00:10:39] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, really? That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I think hey. I think this top is not being made by Tesla.
[00:10:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't think it is. It's it's aftermarket.
[00:10:50] Duuude-Ron :
About the only number I can find is about 3,500.
[00:10:55] Unknown:
Yeah. And that's great. More power to the people that buy it. You know what? It's their money, dude. You're right. It is. More more power to the people that buy it. That's all I'm gonna say about that. So other than that, I missed out on the cooking lesson, but that's okay. I ain't gonna cook it anyway. All I heard was, cornbread out of real corn meal.
[00:11:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's some good shit.
[00:11:28] Unknown:
I believe you. I'll just do the fucking instant. One box of cornmeal, x amount of milk, and an egg. I'm good to go. That's candy.
[00:11:40] Duuude-Ron :
That's candy.
[00:11:42] Unknown:
Well, yeah, after you pour a shitload of syrup on it. Well, no. It's it's got
[00:11:48] Duuude-Ron :
dude, it's got, like, a week's worth allowance of sugar in it.
[00:11:53] Unknown:
Yeah. But the only way to fucking eat cornbread is with syrup.
[00:11:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh god. You're rude. Syrup? That's what I was saying. No.
[00:12:04] Unknown:
Pancake syrup. Yes, sir.
[00:12:07] Rich Chelson:
So what do you eat for you ain't eat any crust of them with these no go to the Mason Dixon line.
[00:12:13] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Do you actually know where the Mason Dixon line physically
[00:12:21] Duuude-Ron :
fits at? Yes, sir. I've crossed the times.
[00:12:27] Rich Chelson:
I forget exactly what the what the Latin what the longitudinal number is, but it was Oh, it is.
[00:12:35] Unknown:
Isn't it Pennsylvania and whatever state is north of it
[00:12:39] Rich Chelson:
or south of it? No. It's Virginia from Virginia down along Kentucky.
[00:12:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, actually, no. Dude was right. Mason Dixon line shows a border between Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and West Virginia. Really? Yep. Yep.
[00:12:57] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Okay. Well, it shows that I'm not all that educated.
[00:13:01] Duuude-Ron :
It was it was originally surveyed between 1763 and 1767 by Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon. Alright. The line is was established to settle a colonial border dispute and later became the symbolic dividing line between the Northern and Southern United States. Now some of them states, I don't see how they can classify as the South because Yeah. Maryland ain't southern
[00:13:35] Rich Chelson:
by me. Probably might be because it to that one, Virginia. It separates Virginia from from from Maryland. Because Maryland and Virginia are Maryland's North of Virginia.
[00:13:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But but the Mason Dixon Line separates Maryland from Pennsylvania. So it puts Maryland in the South, West Virginia, Virginia, Kentucky, on down. And then all the way out across,
[00:14:08] Rich Chelson:
it it goes I think someone's got a therapist.
[00:14:11] Duuude-Ron :
It goes on the southern side. Doesn't include Illinois. It it done it done cut them out in 1767 and went on the topside between Missouri and Iowa. Yeah. They said, fuck you, Illinois. Y'all are liberal backed in you, and they're still liberal.
[00:14:30] Rich Chelson:
But Yeah. They're liberal now.
[00:14:32] Duuude-Ron :
But, yeah, it say it says Maryland is. Yeah, it's it's a bold line. So Maryland is south of the Mason Dixon Line.
[00:14:44] Unknown:
Yep. So, yeah, even Nebraska is a southern considered a southern state.
[00:14:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't believe that.
[00:14:54] Unknown:
Neither do I because there's too much white No. I don't buy it. Yeah. Fucking air on the ground in the winter.
[00:15:02] Rich Chelson:
Fuck that. Well, there's a lot in in Tennessee too. In Kentucky, there's a lot a lot of snow there too. It's just the the South just meant that it was it was they they had
[00:15:15] Unknown:
a Down to the survey line.
[00:15:17] Rich Chelson:
Yes. They were just a I always took it as one that said south. That was the area that was approved, with, with with slavery is what I always Yeah. For yeah. Well,
[00:15:33] Unknown:
who knows? Fucking George Washington owned slaves.
[00:15:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. He was he lived in Virginia too. So
[00:15:41] Unknown:
Well sure. Okay. He did? Well, I do well, I know, but up to what point did what president not own slaves?
[00:15:53] Rich Chelson:
Oh, that's a good that's a good, I have no idea what the hell. Question.
[00:15:58] Unknown:
Yes.
[00:15:59] Rich Chelson:
Let's see. Who was the first president
[00:16:05] Duuude-Ron :
to not Several of them. John Adams,
[00:16:08] Rich Chelson:
John Quincy Adams, Millard Philanthropy. John Adams would have been the first one. James So yeah. And
[00:16:16] Duuude-Ron :
Abraham Lincoln.
[00:16:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. John Adams was the first, though. So he was the fourth.
[00:16:23] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I don't
[00:16:24] Rich Chelson:
know. Well, why not?
[00:16:26] Duuude-Ron :
Because I didn't look that up. Oh. And and it and and there's also a note here. Donald Trump is also the only living US president whose ancestors did not own slaves. According to a Reuters investigation.
[00:16:42] Unknown:
Whoever Reuters is.
[00:16:44] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I'm sure Reuters was going, he's got he's got slaves. His ancestors owned slaves, and they're like, oh, shit. No. We can't even get them on that aspect either. You know? He is about the most clearest man you ever come across. Right. Because, I mean, Trump was just they've tried everything, and nothing sticks to this dude. He is definitely the Teflon Don.
[00:17:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, one, he ain't a clear politician.
[00:17:13] Duuude-Ron :
Two, he never
[00:17:16] Unknown:
came in for the money because, hell, he had fucking Hell, he's still got a shit ton of money as it is before he ever became president. So it's never been about that.
[00:17:26] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:17:27] Unknown:
You know, it's been about trying to get shit done for the American people Right. From the fucking corrupt politicians. Yep.
[00:17:39] Rich Chelson:
And both sides have them. Oh, no. I agree. I agree. Both sides are just as, as, reliable as the as the others.
[00:17:50] Unknown:
So yeah.
[00:17:52] Duuude-Ron :
I got to say, guys. I got to say this. I've been itching to say this for over a long time.
[00:17:58] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no.
[00:17:59] Duuude-Ron :
Contest season is upon us.
[00:18:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, we jumped over into ham radio's topics. Alright. So what's going on in the in the ham radio contest world?
[00:18:11] Duuude-Ron :
That was so much fun. Oh, damn. I had fun. I got to hear stations that I hadn't heard for a year and actually talked to a lot of. I was fucked. I was all over the world. And I even I even found out there's an island. It's spelled A L A N D. Island. It's between Finland and Scotland, right, or Sweden. Either way. But it's closer to Sweden or, yeah, Sweden, but it's owned by Finland. Yeah. But I I was shocked when I I I mean, I got him, and I was like, holy shit. Where is that at? So I'm sitting there. I had to look it up because it's like I I was I was I was just excited because it's like, where the hell is this plate? And then I saw it, and I'm like, oh, hell yeah. That's cool. And I just kept going. I got Samoya. I got Australian man. I got, I got The Gambia in the contest.
Charlie five Yankee. I got him. I mean, I made a 155 contacts.
[00:19:26] Unknown:
Oh, wow.
[00:19:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I did I did actually really well. You know? But, yeah, it was just oh, man. It was just I just I just been wanting to say that. I and I got a contest coming up in two weeks. Another one, a big one. Oh, I can't wait for it either. So I I just I just had to say that. I I just I just been excited.
[00:19:53] Rich Chelson:
So who's in the running? Who's in who's in the lead so far? Who's who's in the running? Who's in the running? What do you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, we've we're in we're in the contest season, so I'm I'm assuming this must be like, like race season. So, you know, you got
[00:20:11] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it's not me. I can tell you that.
[00:20:14] Rich Chelson:
Not Delta echo echo is you know, he he's he he was so close, but, couldn't quite come to get the, get the finish. You know? And
[00:20:25] Duuude-Ron :
Well, see, that's you see, this is what this is what's hard about these contests. I won't know the results till probably,
[00:20:34] Rich Chelson:
oh, shoot, a month from now. Oh, well, that's not fun. Yeah. Well No wonder you don't hear about them on ESPN. Right. Everyone's done I forgot about them by now.
[00:20:44] Duuude-Ron :
Now you see you see, that's the thing. You know, when you got, you know, 10 or 20,000 logs that come flooding in because, well, with this contest, I had five days to get my logs in. Right. You know, when you got 10 or 20 or 30,000 logs coming at you in five days, you can't get them all checked because, like like, some of the contacts I made might wait till day five to upload theirs, and then they have to be checked with mine and everybody else's. Right. It's it, you know, takes a while to sort all that out.
[00:21:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Good point.
[00:21:25] Unknown:
So if say that individual that you made a contact with didn't submit in their logs, for you, it's like it never you never talked to them. Right? That one particular call may yeah. May not have happened.
[00:21:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:21:41] Unknown:
Okay.
[00:21:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But and and there's been times in the past when I've joined contest and and didn't submit a log. You know what I mean? So but, anymore, I tried to you know, if I if I, participate in a contest, I try at least submit my log even though I'm not gonna win, but at least the other people that are trying to win, you know, my log I've talked to you. Yeah. It'll go for them as well. So Yeah. I always always try to submit my log.
[00:22:20] Unknown:
When I'm Well, and some of those guy and I'm sure some of those guys in those contests, as soon as it starts, they have, like, five pots of coffee already brewed, you know, and they won't sleep throughout the whole contest.
[00:22:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. A lot of them. Well, like, some of your big contest stations, like Tango Italy one tango, Papa four zero whiskey, Papa three three whiskey, you know, just to name a few. They, they have multi person teams. We're talking ten, twenty guys
[00:23:01] Unknown:
that Oh, okay.
[00:23:04] Duuude-Ron :
You know, rotate time because, I mean, to sit in that seat for forty eight straight hours is damn near impossible.
[00:23:14] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah.
[00:23:15] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So and I I mean, people gotta eat and go to the bathroom at least. So, you know, this way here, they probably have it set up to where, you know you know, each person works, like, four or six hours and then takes a break, either
[00:23:34] Unknown:
granted, they Then why should they be winning if it's a team, not an individual?
[00:23:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, because it's it's it's a like a contest club. And their their scores normally go in a different category. All scores for for my category.
[00:23:54] Unknown:
Right.
[00:23:54] Duuude-Ron :
I know. So so I'm not I'm not competing against those guys because there's there's no way I could ever, you know, make the points they make.
[00:24:05] Unknown:
Oh, hell no.
[00:24:07] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So but that's, I mean, that's that's what they do. You know? They have teams of guys that, you know, they bring up and they set up, and they they work, they work to contest.
[00:24:24] Unknown:
So Well, does the team operate underneath one call sign?
[00:24:29] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[00:24:30] Unknown:
Okay. Yes. I do.
[00:24:33] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. I have, like, five or six transmitters on on different bands, or they might have a couple on the same band just on different antennas, and they'll sit there and, you know, run contacts. And then they'll swap things out after a while And then run contacts, swap things out. So Yeah. But no. It was just it was just fun. The next one is the November sweepstakes, and, that's another big one. So I'm getting set up with it. Yeah. It's I I did that one last year, and, I I can't remember how I did. I would have to look it up. Like, you were, like, just five short of winning.
[00:25:21] Rich Chelson:
If I can remember right, maybe. You said?
[00:25:27] Duuude-Ron :
I wish.
[00:25:28] Rich Chelson:
You could've just made five tenths of a of a of a contact faster.
[00:25:34] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Now yeah. That's, yeah, I totally lost my train of thought. It just dribbled right out of that ear, didn't it? Oh my god. It didn't dribble. It ran, dude.
[00:25:47] Unknown:
It fell off the tracks into the canyon.
[00:25:50] Duuude-Ron :
It did. It did. The caboose. But yeah. No. It's it it I tell you what, man. It it was it was so good to hear. It was so good to hear all those stations again. It it was like it was like, yes. Where have you been for my life? And, actually, it was a year ago. You know?
[00:26:15] Rich Chelson:
So they just they just don't ever go online again until till contest?
[00:26:20] Duuude-Ron :
Pretty much. No. Sometimes you'll hear someone jump in the contest station and, you know, make a few contacts and stuff. But, yeah, no. Normally, you don't hear them until it's contest season.
[00:26:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Well and they may be out there, but they are just not on when you're on.
[00:26:40] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Well, true. True. It's very possible. You know, they could be out there right now, and, you know, I'm not on.
[00:26:47] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[00:26:48] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So but so yeah. It's but I don't know.
[00:26:56] Unknown:
All that for I don't know.
[00:27:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See, in, last year's November sweepstakes, I had I was in in just at my call area, so I was a single operator, low power. I was number 65 out of I don't know how many. Hang on. Let me look. I was 65 out of a 106, and see where did I go? There I am. And I had 11,110 points and a 101 contacts.
[00:27:36] Unknown:
Oh, you definitely got, what, 40 more contacts just on this past contest? Yeah. Then you got me in November. So yeah. When's the last time you tightened up your guide wires?
[00:27:51] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, it's been a couple days.
[00:27:53] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:27:54] Duuude-Ron :
I gotta check them. Oh, okay. But and see and see in the November sweeps, I just I just ran for nine point four hours of of the twenty four hour contest.
[00:28:08] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:28:09] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. And the guy who won in in in five call area, he was a single operator, high power running 1,500 watts from New Mexico, and he operated twenty three point three hours and had a score of 292,400 points.
[00:28:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's So what is what equals a point?
[00:28:35] Duuude-Ron :
Contact. And then
[00:28:37] Rich Chelson:
there's So he had 200,000 contacts?
[00:28:40] Duuude-Ron :
No. He had 1,720 because he had multipliers, which are, DX stations and stuff like that, other countries, because the November sweeps is for basically North America. K. Okay? But but DX stations will try and contact us too. And that's fine because we get more points. But if if we work all 85 things, that's all the provinces in Canada, the provinces in Mexico, all The US states, and all like that, that's 85 multipliers. That's extra points. That's that's what gives you Oh, okay. So you get, like, an extra point
[00:29:32] Rich Chelson:
for or say, like, Mexico, Chihuahua County. I can't remember what the state is, in Mexico, but the the state of Chihuahua or or, Yeah. Chihuahua. So that would be a person plus an extra point or two depending on what what they've set up the, the places to be. Yeah. Oh, okay.
[00:29:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And it's because yeah. Because you see because, they've got and, Canada, well, you got British Columbia, you've got Ontario, you've got, Quebec. Yeah. Quebec, Prince Edward Island, Calgary, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Northwest Territories, Newfoundland. You know, you got, like, seven or eight up there. And then in Mexico, I'm not sure how how many there are. And then you have all 50 states. So so that's where and just in my categories, single operator, low power, and a five call district out of 54, I just saw myself. I was number 23.
[00:30:48] Rich Chelson:
Well, there you go. So yeah. So you're better than half.
[00:30:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That was last year, though. We'll see we'll see what I do this year. Absolutely. I'm gonna try them better this year, of course,
[00:31:03] Rich Chelson:
because that's that's my goal. But Well, everybody weren't around there going,
[00:31:07] Unknown:
who in the heck is this this rich Chelsea dude?
[00:31:11] Rich Chelson:
Why is he taking everybody's, everybody's toys away from him?
[00:31:17] Duuude-Ron :
Because I got a good antenna. Exactly. Yeah. No. I was I, you see, I was gonna try and use my my big radio. And it's a great radio. It works great. I love it. I I trust me. I do love it. It's not a contest radio. It it does not have the receiver sensitivity that in that I have in my seven ten. I use my seven ten for that contest. Okay. So I just ran a 100 watts instead of 200, and I I still did good, I thought. So I was happy. Good. So, yeah, I just I just I just had to update everybody that contest season is upon us. Bella hates it. Oh my god. Bella hates contest season. She was running in, like like, she'd run-in two, three different times while I'm operating.
[00:32:21] Rich Chelson:
Trying Okay. If we're gonna go down, do something, dad. Come on, dad. Let's go do something. Yeah. Pretty much.
[00:32:26] Duuude-Ron :
She was trying to get me to to go outside or or do something because I was back here for so long. You know? I'm you know, I stopped, took a break, checked on her, let her outside to go potty and stuff like that. But other than that, I was back here operating, and and she'd come running in just out of the blue like, oh my god. No. No. Can't have this. You know? And I'm like and I kept telling her, honey, this is contest season.
[00:32:59] Rich Chelson:
She's like, I don't care. Well, I don't know what a contest is, but you you've been back here too much, dad.
[00:33:05] Duuude-Ron :
Right. And that's that's exactly what it is. You know? She's like,
[00:33:09] Rich Chelson:
no.
[00:33:11] Unknown:
You can't be happy with this. Here too long.
[00:33:14] Rich Chelson:
You need the sunshine. You need the sunshine on your face.
[00:33:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But it was the sun had done left us when, well, she did it during the day, but not as much because, you know so but yeah. No. She she did not like she didn't like me doing the contest.
[00:33:41] Rich Chelson:
Alright. Well, next contest comes along. Ron, you're gonna have to go over there, babysit Bella.
[00:33:47] Unknown:
Oh, we all know. We're just gonna have for a girl.
[00:33:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. Sorry, Yeah.
[00:33:58] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Because,
[00:34:00] Duuude-Ron :
well, the fifteenth through the seventeenth is my next contest in November. Okay. So in a couple weeks. Well So, yeah, that's, I'll be doing this all over again. It's just not it's just not as long. It's not Friday night through Sunday evening. It's it's Saturday afternoon to Sunday evening. Oh, and don't forget, Sunday, y'all dude gets his hour of sleep extra hour of sleep.
[00:34:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's true.
[00:34:37] Unknown:
But see, the problem is it's not beauty sleep because I'm still four or five years behind on regular sleep before I can even think about touching beauty sleep. So with that, trust me, that one hour will definitely make a difference. Hell, yeah. Because even though it you even though I get that hour, I'll get up and have my cup of coffee, my cigarette, and probably go back and taste it.
[00:35:03] Duuude-Ron :
Right? I swear.
[00:35:07] Rich Chelson:
What the
[00:35:08] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, you crack me up.
[00:35:11] Rich Chelson:
You crack me up. You're probably my damnest. Well, we now understand why he rests as much as he does, though. Because he knows that he's going over to, going over to Cruising the Coast sometime, and he's gotta go over there and wear your butt out. So he turns in the Energetic Bunny every time he's over there. Right.
[00:35:33] Duuude-Ron :
Right?
[00:35:35] Unknown:
Well, you're gonna have to work on your sleep for next year as well.
[00:35:40] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'll get over there. Something here, hopefully, here pretty darn quick. Maybe next next year is I can I can get stuff?
[00:35:49] Unknown:
Oh, there you go. Oh, that all set. He's got a set on me. Alright. There you go.
[00:35:53] Rich Chelson:
Just got finished eating, so I'm a pull. And then the dog sits on me, so I was like, oh god. Then I've got a cat that was a little sit on me, but at the same time, the cat is like the cat well, Rain, cannot stand the sensation of a cat touching her. He'd be set not set he can set up, but the moment she he sinks down enough to where he touches her. Boy, she's up. She's moving. She's like, the hell, man.
[00:36:21] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I'm very seriously thinking about switching to Linux all the way around.
[00:36:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Pretty fun. Pretty nice little, little piece of software, ain't it?
[00:36:34] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, so I love Zorin. In fact in fact, I tell you what, believe it or not, setting Zorin up, me and Google Gemini, if it wasn't for her help, man, I tell you what, I wouldn't be anywhere done with with everything because yeah. You know, if I wanna know how to do something, I say, hey, Google. How do I do this? And she tell me. And then I do it. It works.
[00:37:03] Rich Chelson:
To tell you how to do this, I need to know what this is. Please give me more details on what you are trying to accomplish. Gemini, you're an idiot. Shut up.
[00:37:12] Duuude-Ron :
She heard me. But, but no. Hey. I needed to you know? Because I I was just like, how do I set this up? And so walked through it step by step, and I did each thing and got it set up and everything. I like Zorin. I'm thinking about putting Mint on on my on my new laptop.
[00:37:41] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:37:42] Duuude-Ron :
The one that I haven't had very long. The only thing I I I wonder about is the drivers for the video card.
[00:37:50] Rich Chelson:
The only one That's a yeah. That's gonna be your big hang up on any of them because NVIDIA won't release the drivers won't give out the, the drivers needed for, so they can they can try to get them to work on Actually on Linux.
[00:38:08] Duuude-Ron :
Actually, that's not so much true anymore because I've been I've been reading up on some of these forums and stuff. NVIDIA, they've they've made it possible to, get if needed, they've got a set of drivers for most other video cards that they put out that are open source. But if if those tend to not work real well, then they do make available the proprietary drivers
[00:38:45] Unknown:
for their cards.
[00:38:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. So yeah. I know.
[00:38:51] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So, yeah, I've been that's why the that's why I've been making sure of everything before I fully switch. You know? Right. Because you know? And now I've been reading. They've been able to get some high end video cards. I'm and I and I've seen the numbers, the GTX fifty seventy, the RTX. The there's about three three or four of them of the high ends that they name that are like the high high end ones. I don't have those. I've got, like, I've got, like, one of the mid tiers, you know, just maybe on the bottom side of the high end. But, but, yeah, they've got drivers for them.
[00:39:40] Rich Chelson:
Okay. So
[00:39:42] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that'll be good because Yeah. No. That's I I I mean, that's why I'm I because because my other laptop, the one that wouldn't stay up and running with Windows 10 or Windows 11, you know, now works like a dream. Yeah. You know, it it because it doesn't have so much bullshit tied to it, like like, you know, Windows has tied to it. And and I also looked, I can get, Zoom, you know, the Zoom meeting, what what we're using, you know Uh-huh. For, Linux.
[00:40:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. So
[00:40:24] Duuude-Ron :
so, see, I wouldn't I wouldn't even lose that.
[00:40:27] Rich Chelson:
Okay. That definitely is, is needed.
[00:40:31] Duuude-Ron :
Right. So No. You see, that's the thing. I've been I've been making sure I can keep, you know, a lot of, you know, everything that I need. And since this freaking computer I'm on right now is basically still clean because because I haven't put everything that I had on it back on it. I'm thinking, why don't I just make the switch?
[00:40:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. Make
[00:41:04] Unknown:
it. Make the switch.
[00:41:07] Rich Chelson:
I'll probably do. Dark side. We've got cookies.
[00:41:11] Duuude-Ron :
I like cookies.
[00:41:13] Unknown:
And peanut butter and marshmallows. All that creepy fuck.
[00:41:22] Duuude-Ron :
And now the reason I like Zorin, I I was actually kinda surprised. It it kinda doesn't make you feel like you're on Linux because it looks so much like Windows. It does Right. It it does act different. You know? And but, actually, by switching, you've got access to more programs than you ever thought.
[00:41:51] Rich Chelson:
You know? I believe that.
[00:41:53] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, oh, shit. The, Windows store has nothing compared to what you can get on on Linux. Right. You know? So I, I've been I've I've been highly impressed with everything.
[00:42:11] Unknown:
So what were you able to get done with the computer I left down there? Did you get whatever you said you're gonna try to put on it?
[00:42:20] Duuude-Ron :
No. Not yet. I've been, that'll that'll probably be next week because I got done with the contest. And then I took, like, a day and a half and, yeah, did nothing just because it wore out. And then and then I started messing with this laptop,
[00:42:43] Unknown:
and and I was with the Linux?
[00:42:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. And I was like well, I tried to play with it a little bit and, you know, figure out how to get into the the BIOS and everything like that, but it moves too quick. So I gotta do it, like, two or three times to figure out which button I need to hit to get there or which combinations because because when I plug the stick in, I'm a boot right from the stick.
[00:43:12] Rich Chelson:
From the stick?
[00:43:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. From the stick.
[00:43:16] Rich Chelson:
From the stick?
[00:43:18] Duuude-Ron :
And so I was I would I tried that, and it kept going too fast, going by too fast, and I'm like, screw it. I closed the lid. I said, I'll worry about it next week. My eyes weren't moving that fast, so I just I just been working on this laptop. And, the only the only thing because I still have my other computer over here on Windows on Windows 10. Okay. K. And I wanna use my laptop again for my ham radio stuff, but here's the problem that I have there. There is not a good hunt test logging program for Linux.
[00:44:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I could see that.
[00:44:11] Duuude-Ron :
No one has made one. They've made a couple logging programs. One is a general logging program, which is good, but it's not that great for contesting. And the best contest logger I have is a Windows product. Now I can use I can put wine onto Linux and possibly use that use my Windows program on that, but figuring out how to get the signals from my radio through Linux, through the wine program into my login program might be a challenge. I haven't figured that one out yet.
[00:44:58] Unknown:
Well, you have a whole half a month.
[00:45:01] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it ain't gonna be done by the end. So that's why I that that's why my my my ham radio computer is still on Windows 10 for now. Yeah. And who knows? I might have to learn how to code and make my own contest.
[00:45:17] Rich Chelson:
Thank you so much.
[00:45:19] Unknown:
You enjoy the hell out of that. I'll just go over here and drink a cup of coffee and have a smoke. I ain't even going to attempt that. Well, I don't have a computer anyway. So
[00:45:35] Duuude-Ron :
Well, see, that's the thing. I don't I honestly, I don't know if I wanna attempt it. But, you know, if I wanna fully switch to Linux over on my ham radio side, I've gotta do something. Right. So in other words, they either have to pay someone to write the program for me or learn how to do it myself. So I don't know yet. I am thinking about learning how to do it.
[00:46:02] Rich Chelson:
Well, wouldn't I mean, it's it's a challenge. You have to know what you're looking at, but at the same time, I mean, a lot of people go off go as far as as as letting AI do a lot of the, a lot of the programming.
[00:46:18] Duuude-Ron :
Well and that's that's, that's something I'm thinking about. I mean, I've got I've I I kinda had the layout in my head. And as far as the code, I mean, I I would learn the code as well, but especially getting started because I don't know any code.
[00:46:38] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:46:39] Duuude-Ron :
You know, why not let AI run the code? And then if I run into a problem, I can just take that bit of code and put it back in AI and say, fix it. What's wrong with it and why did it happen? You know what I mean? Right. And so this way, I learn while it's, you know, spitting code out. I ain't I ain't scared to do it. Well, yeah, I kinda am, but but I don't know. It's just because there is one program I could get, but this guy does it in his spare time. So he's like, you know, he's like, yeah. Yeah. I've made a few contest loads, but it's it's nothing.
It's it's not exhaustive. So and he's like, I prob he's he's like, I'm not a big contester, so I probably won't do many more. And it's like, well, shoot, dude. Get into contesting. That's fun. But no.
[00:47:43] Rich Chelson:
No.
[00:47:45] Duuude-Ron :
And see, that's where, honestly, I didn't think I liked contesting as much as I did. But after last last weekend, was it? Yeah. Last weekend, I was like, oh my god.
[00:47:56] Rich Chelson:
I was like, I'm in a candy store.
[00:47:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Because you got that high speed, low drag antenna.
[00:48:03] Duuude-Ron :
That's right. By god. And it worked very fucking well.
[00:48:09] Unknown:
Well, yeah, when you're getting these little itty bitty islands that nobody have ever has ever heard about except for those that live on the damn island.
[00:48:19] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:48:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I got places I had never heard of, man. I mean, it's crazy. Now you have.
[00:48:29] Unknown:
So and now you have. Now you have. Right? Yeah. So you're all in line. So
[00:48:37] Duuude-Ron :
And it was cool it was cool sitting there operating on on Sunday evening. I got to hear Japan come into play and made a couple contacts to Japan. So Oh, there you go. Yeah. Because, yeah, normally, I don't I don't hear Japan come in, you know, when when signals are good. But, yeah, I got to hear Japan come in. So, yeah, it was it was it was a lot of fun, man. I gotta say it was a lot of fun. I was wore the hell out, though.
[00:49:14] Unknown:
Now if just sitting in the chair wears you out, are we even gonna have fun next year cruising the coast?
[00:49:23] Duuude-Ron :
No. It went Am I am
[00:49:25] Unknown:
I gonna have to fucking bring the goddamn wheelchair down with me? I got one sitting up in the attic.
[00:49:34] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I believe you do. I I I believe you do. No. It's not the fact that they're just sitting in the chair. It was just it was it was operating a radio, trying to make sure I was I was my, program was sitting right where I needed it, you know, because since I didn't have the radio control and have the radio talking to my, logging program, I had to do it manually. And then trying to get the station and then make the contact, make sure I had to write their right information, my right information. You do that for twelve and a half hours. It wears you out.
[00:50:15] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It well, just like driving a truck in freaking rush hour traffic in a major city. You're not doing anything physical, but the mental exhaustion will wear you the fuck out.
[00:50:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's that's exactly what it was. You know? It it was it was more mental than physical.
[00:50:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I believe it.
[00:50:43] Duuude-Ron :
So but now I should be good for, cruising the coast next year.
[00:50:50] Unknown:
We'll see. Right. Especially if I especially if I bring a four by four. Get that. Get your ass moving, punk. Okay, boss.
[00:51:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yes, boss. Yes, boss. Yes, boss. Oh my god.
[00:51:10] Unknown:
It'll move pretty damn quickly. Or you'll move pretty damn quickly or you'll just take the stick from me and start beating me with my own stick.
[00:51:20] Duuude-Ron :
That would just be too much. And that would that would be I would I would have to set a video up for that. That would be YouTube worthy right there.
[00:51:32] Unknown:
Yep. And that would be a video that you never will achieve to get. Have fun.
[00:51:38] Duuude-Ron :
You don't know about that.
[00:51:40] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:51:42] Duuude-Ron :
You don't know about that.
[00:51:44] Unknown:
Just remember, I'm gonna hit you and run. You can't fucking you cannot catch me.
[00:51:50] Duuude-Ron :
Well, this is true. I cannot.
[00:51:52] Unknown:
Until I go to sleep. Until I go to sleep.
[00:51:56] Duuude-Ron :
I am not gonna argue that point. I I cannot run anymore, and I couldn't run when I could run. But
[00:52:05] Unknown:
I hated every fucking minute of it.
[00:52:08] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:52:09] Unknown:
Well, of course, we ran well, I was in the eighty second. We ran five days a week. Monday through Thursday was usually five miles, and then Friday would be eight to 10 miles. Fucking hated every damn minute of it.
[00:52:27] Duuude-Ron :
Right? I I bet, man. I mean, good god. Did y'all ever get to do any work?
[00:52:35] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Well
[00:52:37] Unknown:
and see, we didn't work like you worked as being a mechanic. You had physically something to do every single day.
[00:52:47] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:52:49] Unknown:
My ambulance isn't quite like that or wasn't quite like that because we can only fire artillery shells or mortar shells, you know, every so often. The rest of it was in fucking books. And, of course, I have this book as well.
[00:53:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But y'all could work on the tanks and stuff, couldn't you?
[00:53:10] Unknown:
We didn't have tanks. I take it back. We had a battalion of tanks for the whole division, and those were Sheraton's at that. Yep. Because that is the only the the only tank that they could drop that one forty one could actually physically take off and be airborne.
[00:53:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, how'd y'all shoot your rockets? You do smack them on a rock and throw them?
[00:53:45] Unknown:
No. Yeah. Remember, I was the one calling in the artillery. So you have to have an artillery battery or, you know, somebody in in the background, you know, pulling the lanyard.
[00:53:57] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Okay. So your unit did not have the tanks. Y'all just called the tanks up, said, yo. Y'all shoot over here.
[00:54:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We had well, eighty second, Tenth Mountain, twenty fifth ID, they're all light units, so they don't have any major vehicles.
[00:54:19] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:54:20] Unknown:
So unlike a storage hood where everything is mechanized here.
[00:54:26] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. So Yeah. I saw I saw something on Facebook today. I loved it. I freaking loved it. The freaking army is going back to the old brown rounds, man. Oh, are they really? Yes. They are. Beautiful round. Yeah. The drill Oh. Yeah. The drills aren't that? Yeah. The males have always had that. The females are going back to it too.
[00:54:54] Unknown:
Yes. I saw that. Yeah. Well, they're gonna standardize the headgear for the drill instructors
[00:54:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[00:55:00] Unknown:
And get rid of that whatever the fuck. I don't remember what they called that that the females wore. It's like you're doing a safari in Africa.
[00:55:10] Duuude-Ron :
It's a campaign hat.
[00:55:12] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:55:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I had to think of of the word they they used. It's it's a it's a campaign hat, which, honestly, I always like to look of it, you know, on the females, Joe Sargent. I always liked it. I don't know why I just always did. But so, yeah, I saw that, and I'm like, hell, yeah. Freaking go go back to the way basic training was in the late eighties and early nineties before all this pussyfooting around.
[00:55:44] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah.
[00:55:46] Duuude-Ron :
I mean I mean and and I saw that, and I was like I was like, oh, lot of little boys and girls gonna be crying for their mommies.
[00:55:58] Unknown:
Well, shit. Did didn't we?
[00:56:00] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. We did. But but it'll be worse now. Oh, hell yeah. Shit. There are many times I always had it back home on the block. Shoot. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie.
[00:56:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Well Right. Maybe and maybe one of these days, we'll get a generation that's in the military that actually has some discipline.
[00:56:30] Duuude-Ron :
Well, let's let's hope they're starting with that now.
[00:56:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Okay.
[00:56:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I saw I saw that post on Facebook, and I was like, hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
[00:56:42] Unknown:
And a majority of the females actually won it.
[00:56:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that's good.
[00:56:49] Unknown:
Because then they could do, like, the males and take their the brim of their hat and freaking knock it on the center of your chest right there on your sternum.
[00:56:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yeah. I know. That's
[00:57:02] Unknown:
My buddy, Deah, across the street, he's still in the military, and he was telling me about any type of admin shit for corrective actions.
[00:57:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Uh-huh.
[00:57:15] Unknown:
Is fucking a nightmare. Really? Oh, yeah. He said, by the time you get done doing it and getting it corrected, grammarly, or, you know, how it was worded in the first place, it's like, what is even the fucking what's the point? Right. At that, yeah, at that point in time? It's like, what the fuck is the goddamn point? I like the aspect where if they didn't wanna move to a certain location or a certain direction, then I could physically move them. I enjoyed those days.
[00:57:59] Duuude-Ron :
Hey, Brandon. Yep. Let me ask you a question.
[00:58:03] Rich Chelson:
17.
[00:58:05] Unknown:
Now Always. I thought it was 42.
[00:58:08] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's that's the answer to life and everything. Oh, okay.
[00:58:14] Duuude-Ron :
Now when when you was in basic, what what kinda dress did your NCOs have?
[00:58:25] Rich Chelson:
No. They just had the, they had the your your standard, shit. What did they have? Because now I was fixing to say they just had typical hat, But you know? Well, you would think Well, it didn't it wasn't it wasn't the big it wasn't the big round ones as I mean, most of the guys because, I mean, we had most of them were, first class petty officers. There was usually a chief that oversaw them.
[00:58:54] Unknown:
So So each officer is being a being a what e grade?
[00:58:59] Rich Chelson:
I see here. That'd be You see, one, two, three. So so third class is four, five. Yeah. Six would be the first class, and seven would be, would be the the chief. Okay.
[00:59:15] Duuude-Ron :
And so They were e sixes? Yeah. Okay.
[00:59:21] Rich Chelson:
For some reason, I wanna say the chief, his name was Cross. I can't I'm not a 100%. That's not sounding right.
[00:59:28] Unknown:
So did you guys wear BDU type uniforms throughout basic training or anything? No. We started out in sweat short sweat
[00:59:36] Rich Chelson:
sweats and, for the first couple weeks until we got our, till we got our dungarees and and, and shirts in.
[00:59:45] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Yeah. Wow. To wear sweats?
[00:59:48] Rich Chelson:
We had to wear sweats. Yeah.
[00:59:51] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god.
[00:59:52] Rich Chelson:
Sweatpants and sweatshirt. It just yeah. No. Looked about as gay as you could think. You'd think it does.
[01:00:00] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:00:01] Rich Chelson:
Oh, and, also, you had you had a a marking as to when you got, when you went through hell week or not. And it was you had you had a web belt that you wore with it. So you had green, which was your booger belt, and you wore your booger belt all the way up until, I think, it's week five. Maybe it's week six. I think it's five. I couldn't tell you. I tell goddamn it's been thirty years ago. And, but then you go through your your hell week, which in the navy, you know, it's it's not horrendous. It's just you don't get much sleep because, you know, you're you're doing rotations, and you also have to keep your bunks clean and and all that, and you're doing you work we work the mess, do the mess cranking, and stuff like that. And that's what hell we can tell.
Always cleaning up, and you go and you clean something else, and you come over here and you clean this, and then you're cleaning up the garbage from here, and then you're going over there. And, you know, you're always going. You get about three hours a night, if that. Two to three hours a night for for a week. So, yeah, by the end of it, you're tired, you're wore out, you're you know, and, and stuff. But when you got done, you're you handed in your booger belt for a white web belt, and that became sugar belt. So you went from a booger to a sugar. And so then you started walking around with a with a sugar belt on.
[01:01:28] Duuude-Ron :
Thank God I didn't go in the Navy. Good
[01:01:31] Rich Chelson:
God. But, yeah, we had ball caps that we normally wore. I mean, we had our Dixie cups too, but
[01:01:38] Unknown:
but a lot of times, it was just ball caps.
[01:01:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was ball cap if I'm remembering right.
[01:01:44] Duuude-Ron :
But starting out with a booger belt and then a sugar belt. Yep. Yeah. I I I I I I don't I don't think I would have wanted to be. I'm I'm glad I was not a part of that because I I don't I don't think I as as a as a human being, Brian, I don't think I could be as strong as you admitting that on this podcast.
[01:02:08] Rich Chelson:
Oh, well, hell, everybody who's ever been in the navy knows about booger belts and the sugar belts and and the the somewhat hellish, but not quite hellish hell week and you know? Right. Well, I mean And if you did it there in the wintertime, then, you know, you there were several times where you just did everything indoors because you had, they weren't gonna let you go out in, in 60 degree or minus 60 degree wind chill because, you know, somebody might get too cold or something. So
[01:02:40] Unknown:
Well, god forbid, we fucking get everything outside, and it was a 100 plus.
[01:02:47] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:02:48] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, a 100 plus is one thing, but, you know, 60 below, you you start getting, extremities turning, turning white.
[01:02:58] Unknown:
Fuck that. Mere flesh wound.
[01:03:03] Rich Chelson:
Get out and rub some salt train.
[01:03:05] Unknown:
There you go. Rub some salt on it and fucking just, you know, go to fuck on. But I understand that. Where'd you do your basic training at?
[01:03:16] Rich Chelson:
Great Mistakes.
[01:03:18] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:03:20] Rich Chelson:
Great Lakes in, in Chicago, actually.
[01:03:23] Unknown:
How many locations does the navy have for boot camp?
[01:03:28] Rich Chelson:
Just one now. Really? Yep. Damn.
[01:03:33] Unknown:
Which is where? Chicago. Oh, okay. One location. Yep. Daniela, I can't tell you how many fucking bases there are for the army.
[01:03:45] Duuude-Ron :
There's quite a few.
[01:03:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Basic training camps?
[01:03:48] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
[01:03:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Basic train yeah. For the army. Hang on. I'll look it up.
[01:03:54] Unknown:
Well, you got Benning, Knox, Sill, McClellan. Well, McClellan isn't anymore.
[01:04:02] Duuude-Ron :
Jackson.
[01:04:03] Unknown:
Jackson.
[01:04:05] Duuude-Ron :
Hang on. I got it. Yeah. Benning you want. Jackson. Yep. Leonard Wood.
[01:04:11] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:04:12] Unknown:
Fort
[01:04:13] Rich Chelson:
Sill. Mhmm.
[01:04:14] Duuude-Ron :
That's it. That's it now? Four. They only have four.
[01:04:19] Unknown:
Oh. Yep. Damn. Well, Benning does all the infantry. Jackson did all the admin.
[01:04:28] Duuude-Ron :
And So Yeah. Well well, when I was in, Jackson was doing infantry and admin. Really? Wow. Yeah. Infantry, admin, and, like, mechanics. Yeah. Yeah. Jackson does quite a few different ones. Leonard Wood train trains MPs, combat engineers, and other occupations. Fort Sill is field artillery, and Benning is infantry and armor.
[01:04:55] Unknown:
Oh, okay. So they took what used to be armor at Knox and moved it to Benning because that's what Fort Knox was is their training was for the armor. Right. All the eighteen and nineteen skill set MOS.
[01:05:14] Duuude-Ron :
And those, I think, have changed, haven't they?
[01:05:18] Unknown:
I'm sure they have. Don't e don't even get me to lying to you what freaking hardly any MOS is anymore. Right. But a but a 13 Fox Ford Observer, guess what? It's still the 13 Fox Ford Observer to this day because that's what my neighbor is. I'll be damned. He was the same MOS that now that I was when I was in.
[01:05:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I was I was a '63 bravo, and I found out that they've all been changed to, like, the 92 deltas, bravos, Charlies. So Yeah. Yeah.
[01:05:56] Unknown:
Oh, and now I've from that same neighbor that when you go in to artillery, you go in as 13 nothing. And when you're in basic, that's when they decide what your MOS is gonna be. 13 FOX, 13 bravo, which is the artillery pieces, 13 echo, that's the FTC, and then 13 Mike is the MLRS system.
[01:06:30] Duuude-Ron :
So
[01:06:31] Unknown:
You don't even get to pick that. Nope. Nope. Not not with the recruiter. You don't get to pick that.
[01:06:39] Duuude-Ron :
That's that's crazy.
[01:06:42] Unknown:
Yeah. That's crazy. He said. Now now do I know? I have no fucking idea because, well, hell, I've been retired now for seventeen years and don't really give a shit.
[01:06:55] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But See, that's like that's like in the Marines. You know? I think I think you get to pick, but I think I think the marines get to move you where they want you and need you.
[01:07:09] Unknown:
Well, yeah, because they go in as, like, the infantry, but infantry has different levels. You have, obviously, the infantry individual, then you have the mortar MOS. That's completely separate. And then going into mechanized or light is different.
[01:07:37] Duuude-Ron :
They they probably did it because a lot of people weren't weren't, you know, taking it. So they're like, okay. You don't know what you wanna do? We'll help you figure it out.
[01:07:49] Unknown:
Yeah. And, you know, my MOS has since I was in and it still is a critically shortage MOS.
[01:08:00] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:08:01] Unknown:
And it always will be. So if that's what you choose, that is what you always will be because they're always hurting for them.
[01:08:10] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it was you know, if I had known that, I probably would have done that because it would have been easy to rank up there. I mean, show up to formation and and you get a pay grade. Yeah. You know?
[01:08:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Some of the, you know, like, mechanics and admin and so on like that, you know, their their points were promotion points were always at nine ninety. It never.
[01:08:36] Duuude-Ron :
Right. That was mine.
[01:08:38] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:08:39] Duuude-Ron :
That that was mine. I mean, now now Dalton's been able to well, last time I talked to him, he's supposed to be getting his z seven in February, I think.
[01:08:49] Unknown:
So But what is his career field?
[01:08:53] Duuude-Ron :
92 delta generator mechanic.
[01:08:57] Unknown:
No shit. And got and is getting e seven in how many years?
[01:09:05] Duuude-Ron :
Ten?
[01:09:06] Unknown:
Twelve. 12. And a generator mechanic making e seven. Wow.
[01:09:13] Duuude-Ron :
Well, he's he's also, I guess I guess, apparently, gotten gotten some accommodations that's helped along the
[01:09:22] Unknown:
way. Well, I'm sure.
[01:09:24] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So but, yeah, that's that's crazy. And and he's actually an instructor for a generator mechanics now.
[01:09:34] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Where is he stationed at?
[01:09:37] Duuude-Ron :
Fort Lee.
[01:09:39] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[01:09:40] Duuude-Ron :
So so, yeah, he, but, yeah, making e seven at twelve? Dude, that's crazy.
[01:09:48] Unknown:
Yeah. And the $92.92 field mechanic overall? Yeah. So then when he gets done being an instructor, he ain't gonna be a generator mechanic anymore. What's he gonna be? He's gonna be the motor sergeant.
[01:10:04] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Well, yeah.
[01:10:05] Unknown:
So he ain't gonna be working on generators anymore?
[01:10:08] Duuude-Ron :
No. Oh, I don't honestly, I don't I don't think he's worked on a generator now for about two or three years.
[01:10:16] Unknown:
Well, except well, except for to break the ones that the new soldiers get to fix when they get into AIT. Right. So I'm sure he's gotten real good at breaking shit for training. Yeah. But, yeah, he'll be the he'll be a motor sergeant when he goes back down on the line. Well, hopefully, he'll make e eight and sixteen.
[01:10:50] Duuude-Ron :
That would be cool.
[01:10:52] Unknown:
That would.
[01:10:54] Duuude-Ron :
He just he just might. I mean, he's, you know, he's he's actually used his time in service to, you know, better himself. So so, yeah, I I could see I, you know, I could see him making his e eight in 16. He's, taking college classes and other, you know, classes to, you know, I guess, help him improve as being an NCO and stuff. So
[01:11:23] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, he's
[01:11:25] Duuude-Ron :
he's actually taking advantage of what the army does have to offer. And, you know Yeah. Like like a lot of us guys, we just wanna bitch and whine and drink beer. You know? Right.
[01:11:38] Unknown:
Well and, like, with my MOS, fucking we never could because you wanna take a class, and and they didn't have the classes then like they have now, where you can do a lot of shit online. But being a combat MOS, yeah, it's really hard to go to college in general.
[01:11:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well yeah. And see, that's the thing when, you were in yeah. You're right. Online was just that was unheard of. Mhmm. You know? And and if you if you did sign up for a class, like, I remember I forget where I was at. I signed up to take a college course, and my, my motor pool surgeon wouldn't let me leave early to go to class. And so I I got booted out of that class. I said I'd pay for it, but I got booted out because I wasn't allowed to leave early because back then, what the hell what the hell do you need college for now? You gotta stay here and work.
[01:12:45] Unknown:
Yeah. And on the promotion system, it was only a 100 fucking points.
[01:12:50] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But still. I would've been a I would've been a 100 points closer to my nine nine eight. You're you're absolutely correct. I mean, not saying that it would've helped, but, you know, I would have learned something.
[01:13:07] Unknown:
Yeah. So what was the highest PT score you ever ever achieved?
[01:13:12] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I don't know. I never paid attention to that shit.
[01:13:16] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, I know mine. Yeah.
[01:13:24] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I'm glad you do. I mean I mean, seriously, dude, when I'm staring at nine nine eight, did I really freaking care about a PT test? No. I did not. Because I knew no matter what score I got, I was not gonna become promotable, and I was not gonna become an e five, so I didn't worry about it. So yeah. No. I I just I just, yeah, I I just I passed the PT test. I didn't worry about the score.
[01:13:57] Rich Chelson:
Long as you passed it.
[01:13:59] Duuude-Ron :
That's right.
[01:14:00] Unknown:
Well, that was kinda me at the end.
[01:14:03] Duuude-Ron :
Thing that got me was a two mile run. You know, I was I was smoking three packs of cigarettes a day. So I could do the push ups and sit ups like nobody's business. I can knock a 100 out in two minutes. You know? Not a problem. But that but that freaking two mile run, oh, I remember I remember I was in South Korea doing a PT test. We did the push ups, the sit ups, and did the two mile run. And I got up, got turned around because we went a mile up and a mile back to the one place we was at. And, on the way back, I saw a buddy of mine. He was walking. And I'm like, what you walking for? He's like, screw it, dude. I'll make it there in time. And he was he was walking, smoking a cigarette. I said, hey. Do you got another one? I didn't bring mine. He's like, well, hell yeah. He freaking gave me a cigarette, so I just started walking with him.
I'm like, screw it. Alright. I'll walk with you. Keep you company. And I still came in under time.
[01:15:16] Unknown:
I see. My score was two ninety and above. That's when it was still the three freaking sections like you just described, push ups, set ups, and two mile run. See, for fifteen years, mine was two nine and
[01:15:33] Duuude-Ron :
above. Oh, that's cool.
[01:15:36] Unknown:
And the reason why I will always remember my highest PT test is because it wasn't a freaking high score for best PT in the unit. And on the extended scale, mine was a three eighty six and still didn't get high PT.
[01:15:54] Duuude-Ron :
Pissed me off. I bet it did.
[01:15:58] Unknown:
Because and I'll never forget the kid that that I was competing with was his name was Kramer. We did the same amount of push ups and sit ups, but he started sprinting at the end, and I missed him by two seconds. So that put my that two seconds was split into the next time category. So I got a three eighty six. He got a three eighty seven.
[01:16:30] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:16:31] Unknown:
So, yeah, we both did a 118 push ups, a 118 sit ups, and then it was a ten ten o five in the two mile run. He got 10 o three in which mine pushed me into the next time category.
[01:16:48] Duuude-Ron :
That's a bummer.
[01:16:49] Unknown:
Yeah. It was. Little bastard. Because he was a good six, seven inches shorter than me. Little bastard. Hope I could jump straight ahead.
[01:17:07] Duuude-Ron :
But you see, that's the thing. A PT test, like golf, is not a competition. It's only a competition against yourself.
[01:17:17] Unknown:
Well, in basic training, it was a competition with Kramer. Damn it. Then the rest of my career, it was a competition
[01:17:29] Duuude-Ron :
against me. Oh, you just wanted to beat Kramer.
[01:17:33] Unknown:
Well, yeah, to get my PT in basic training. Damn right.
[01:17:39] Duuude-Ron :
Was this was this Kramer from Seinfeld? No. Okay. I just I just thought I'd ask. I mean, that guy I love that guy. He's funnier and shit.
[01:17:51] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Not even remotely close.
[01:17:56] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:17:58] Rich Chelson:
So
[01:17:59] Unknown:
I thought you were fixing to say, you mean the one off of Kramer versus Kramer, the movie?
[01:18:05] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, dude. That's like that's like a
[01:18:10] Rich Chelson:
long blast in the past. Yeah. That's a that's a long sound go.
[01:18:15] Unknown:
Because I don't remember who the female was, but the male was I just had his fucking name. Now I don't have his name. Yeah. Let me pull it up real quick. Of course, you will. Alright. So 1979.
[01:18:29] Rich Chelson:
Dustin Hoffman.
[01:18:30] Unknown:
Dustin Hoffman. Yeah. In Mill Street.
[01:18:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Merrell. Yep. Oh my god. 1979. Damn. Yes, folks. We are that old.
[01:18:43] Unknown:
Well well, I remember going to see the first Star Wars in the theaters.
[01:18:51] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:18:51] Unknown:
Did you get that pleasure, Rich?
[01:18:54] Rich Chelson:
No. He was he he remember, he had the, he had the the the sheltered life, so so he wouldn't able to watch watch television or or listen to good music or or anything like that. So, yes, Star Wars, I'm sure, was probably not allowed.
[01:19:13] Duuude-Ron :
I can't I can't remember. Now Close Encounters, first time or the third time, first time I watched that, that was on the VCR.
[01:19:26] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That was the same for me. But
[01:19:29] Duuude-Ron :
Star Wars, I wanna say, yes. I saw it in the theater.
[01:19:34] Rich Chelson:
Not when it came out. But No. I saw the I saw the rerelease in the '7 in '79.
[01:19:41] Unknown:
Yeah. And I saw the fucking original. Same way with Smokey and the Bandit. When that was in theaters.
[01:19:52] Rich Chelson:
Smokey and the Bandit, Envoy, back when they used were actually making, sucker movies.
[01:19:58] Unknown:
Yeah. And CJ McCall.
[01:20:02] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. CJ McCall?
[01:20:06] Unknown:
Oh, come on. Seriously?
[01:20:10] Duuude-Ron :
Why is that not his name? It's c w McCall.
[01:20:14] Unknown:
No. Okay. Sorry.
[01:20:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[01:20:19] Unknown:
Excuse the hell out of me. I don't have a computer up and running to do fat checks.
[01:20:27] Duuude-Ron :
I didn't even have to look that one up, dude. I've known that for years because, actually, his songs are really freaking good. Oh, yeah. They are. You know? I I mean, just just the stories in a mur and the thing is nine times out of 10, those are true stories.
[01:20:46] Unknown:
And what was the name of the song that was his biggest hit?
[01:20:50] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there was a few of them. Convoy, wasn't it? Well, there was that one, a Wolf Creek Pass, Wolf Creek Pass,
[01:20:59] Rich Chelson:
Black Bear Pass.
[01:21:01] Duuude-Ron :
I don't remember hearing Black Bear Pass. Oh, yeah. I probably have heard it, though.
[01:21:06] Unknown:
One day, I'm gonna go down Black Bear Pass.
[01:21:12] Duuude-Ron :
One day. I would like to too. That's a scary ass freaking I've I've watched that on YouTube. I've watched that pass on YouTube.
[01:21:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh, Black Bear Road is what they call it. Yeah. Black Bear Road.
[01:21:26] Duuude-Ron :
This this is a pass, and it was traveled by Jeeps and Jeeps. Yeah. It's a famous Jeep town. And Yep. There is one video showed a red four door Jeep somehow Yep. Didn't navigate a turn properly, and it rolled down the hill. Yep. Side to side All the way down.
[01:21:51] Rich Chelson:
Yep. It surely did.
[01:21:55] Duuude-Ron :
I saw that video.
[01:21:56] Unknown:
But you remember do you know what that original purpose of why they built that? No. It was a mining road.
[01:22:05] Rich Chelson:
I was gonna say it's either a mining road or, or just a logging road or not a logging road, but a, no utility road.
[01:22:15] Unknown:
No. Yeah. It was a mining road with two way traffic. Yeah. I wouldn't fucking do two way traffic.
[01:22:23] Rich Chelson:
Nah. Hell no.
[01:22:27] Unknown:
On Black Bear Pass?
[01:22:29] Duuude-Ron :
Nah. Oh, come on. It's wide enough except for a couple spots.
[01:22:34] Unknown:
No. Thank you. Not when I look over to the left and it's a fucking 2,000 foot sheer drop. Fuck that.
[01:22:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, look, Peter. If if you put it right, you you won't have to go on to anything. Yeah. You'll have enough suction. You'll stick to that rock.
[01:22:54] Unknown:
Just like just like with my TJ when I fucking had my seat cushion, made it into a fucking mohawk. Yeah. It took a long time to fucking press that mohawk out of that fucking seat cover. That's when I almost that's when I about rolled that TJ. Yeah. That was not a puncher. That
[01:23:17] Rich Chelson:
was a little nerve wracking.
[01:23:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Scared the fucking bejesus out of me. And then two weeks later, went and did it all over again. All over again. But I tell you what, I did not fucking fuck with Ron's crack. So
[01:23:37] Rich Chelson:
You like playing with your crack. You know it. You're weird that way.
[01:23:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Not with the TJ. Now the the JK was a little bit different until it cost me $1,200 in parts. And then I'm like, no. I ain't fucking around with that one no more. And I have not have not even been near Ron's crack since.
[01:24:02] Rich Chelson:
Not gonna play that game no more. Nope.
[01:24:05] Unknown:
Not after it cost me $1,200 in fucking parts.
[01:24:09] Duuude-Ron :
That's right.
[01:24:10] Unknown:
No. No. No.
[01:24:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Seems seems like it gets expensive with stuff beds when it's not supposed to.
[01:24:17] Unknown:
Yeah. And I can't remember if I'd I don't think I trailed it down that time, and driving home was fucking nerve wracking.
[01:24:29] Rich Chelson:
I bet.
[01:24:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Because the fucking tie rod and the, drag link were both bent. And I mean bent. Yeah. That was a nerve wracking.
[01:24:40] Rich Chelson:
So both of them were bent. I thought you'd like it was like your tie rod or something like that? Yeah. It was a tie rod and the drain leak were bent.
[01:24:49] Unknown:
Just hoping that they wouldn't bend anymore and freaking tow in the freaking front end and, you know, roll that motherfucker going down the interstate.
[01:24:59] Rich Chelson:
That would suck for sure. That would definitely have sucked. May birthday record.
[01:25:06] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:25:08] Duuude-Ron :
Hey, Brian. Hey. Did you see the, the show notes for last week's episode?
[01:25:16] Rich Chelson:
No. I didn't. I wouldn't pay attention to those.
[01:25:19] Duuude-Ron :
Take a look at them. Pod homes AI thing they do, you know Uh-huh. When you upload an episode. I gotta say this is their best this is their best summation yet of any of our podcasts. And they've they've had some pretty good ones in the past, but this one here, read the show notes.
[01:25:40] Rich Chelson:
50 miles of hot rods and the plumber's crack.
[01:25:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I thought I thought that there was a good title.
[01:25:49] Unknown:
I thought it was gonna be roofs and rods.
[01:25:53] Duuude-Ron :
What?
[01:25:55] Unknown:
Roofs and rods.
[01:25:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh,
[01:25:58] Unknown:
now the hell do I know? It it changed. That is cool. That is cool. What what was the what was it called again?
[01:26:06] Duuude-Ron :
50 miles of hot rods and plumbers crack.
[01:26:10] Unknown:
Oh, wow. What will AI think of next time?
[01:26:15] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what's funny, dude? If you if you stop and think about it, the title 50 miles of of hot rods and the title plumber's crack are two of your lines that you said during that podcast last week.
[01:26:35] Unknown:
The I just
[01:26:36] Duuude-Ron :
yes.
[01:26:38] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[01:26:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Those are your lines. AI just put them together.
[01:26:43] Rich Chelson:
Bullshit. Bullshit. No. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true.
[01:26:50] Unknown:
You know what? Well, amen. Amen. And I can't remember the rest of the saying, TAFSA something.
[01:26:58] Rich Chelson:
Fast turkey. Fast fast, man.
[01:27:02] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. I don't know either. But yeah. No. It was just yeah. It was it was your your lines. And when I was looking for podcast titles through, AI, that wouldn't come up. So I worded you know, it it it it added a few other little words like the and and, and I'm like, no. That don't fit. And I'm like, okay. Yeah. This fits. But, yeah, those were you said both of those.
[01:27:35] Unknown:
Well, hot diggity damn.
[01:27:39] Duuude-Ron :
So, hey, I thought you were special.
[01:27:42] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You're right. I am special. Special Ed, special Ted. I was gonna say that's the reason why he doesn't have any paste in this house.
[01:27:52] Duuude-Ron :
Ryan, you changed it for showing up.
[01:27:55] Rich Chelson:
I did. I did.
[01:27:57] Duuude-Ron :
Not bad,
[01:27:58] Rich Chelson:
No. Those are really good. That's a very good, overview of what the, what the show is about.
[01:28:05] Duuude-Ron :
Right? I thought I thought it was really yeah. I mean, it was I was just like, wow. I was floored when I read that, and I'm like, woah. Hold on. Pod Pod Home AI
[01:28:17] Rich Chelson:
came up with that? Yeah. They must be using the new, ChatGPT.
[01:28:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I don't care what they're using, but it works.
[01:28:26] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. They're doing doing a good job. I speak English. I need to get myself back into getting one of my getting the show going again.
[01:28:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You do. Why you been slacking?
[01:28:37] Rich Chelson:
Honestly, because it's just been the for the past several you know, the way that everything rotates screws me up. Hell, I don't even do it near as
[01:28:49] Duuude-Ron :
many many, blog posts as I used to. Yeah. I know. Because every time you do a blog post, I get an email, and I haven't gotten an email from you now for a month. A month. Yeah. Well, yeah. I know. I know. I got my finger on the pulse, man.
[01:29:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's just and then when I'm I'm here at the house, it's you know, I can't sit and do anything because fucking dog has to be in my lap the whole damn time. And I can't figure that out how to type on my on my laptop and walk at the same time. Text to speech, dude. Well, that's what I've been doing. A lot of times, I'll I'll go through and I'll I'll do a voice the voice to text type of angle on it, and it it gets the the general gist of of of everything. It's just at the same time, I don't quite talk the same way that I write, and so there's a little bit of a change in that.
[01:29:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But you you can always go and, you know, brush that up if you want.
[01:29:58] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. I do. Yeah. And, but I'm wanting to start getting that done and get at least try to get podcast up and going again. And then I've got an idea for another podcast that I'm actually wanting to try. I don't know how well it goes. It's just mainly just for kinda me just being kinda a little bit out of shits and giggles more than anything.
[01:30:23] Duuude-Ron :
What you thinking about?
[01:30:25] Rich Chelson:
Well, still using the same coaching model and all that. K. But but doing that women are complaining about nowadays is that they don't find they can't find quality men. The quality men have up and walked away. And these are the girls with wicked septum piercings of 37, you know, piercings on their face or they've got, we've got more tattoos than they do, they do exposed skin. And so I wanna do the the ambitious woman's guide to to dating and marriage. And it might be just a limited little deal, you know, may not be all that it might be, you know, 30 episodes. Who knows? But, you know, just kinda start off in all the all the the lies that feminism has told women that that causes men to just turn their back and go, yeah. You know what? I'm not gonna do this.
And you and sadly, what they're gonna they're gonna have to wait about ten years before the guys start coming back into the into the, picture again. And so you've got, you know, the mid twenties, mid thirties who are looking for men, and they're they're looking for that good guy. And the good guys ain't showing up because good guys have been told to sit down, shut up, and listen and and let women lead. And they're like, well, fine. Whatever. And now they're now these women are realizing, holy smokes. My, my biological clock's ticking.
I actually want a child now, and maybe they're in the late thirties. So trying to have a child of that age is gonna be a lot tougher than you were in your twenties. And so, yeah, there are a lot of women are are waking up to the fact that they've been sold bill bill of goods that sucks. That wasn't for their own. They were told to hate men by by a professor in a women's study class that had daddy issues. And so Yeah. And so they've they've taken all that information and swirled it around and come to find out it's not the not the grandest bit of information to be, to have taken advice from because, yeah, it's no. Well, there's no There's something about the traditions that that are good. And one of the best things is obviously that they're not gonna like is, you know, to and is, go slow.
Believe it or not, you've got all the power in a relationship. You want a guy to do, you know, you want a guy to to have the idea to do something that you want him to do? Well, it's not hard. All you have to do is you have to know how to, a, talk to a guy, but, b, if you wanna know where the good guy is, an easy way to to to to thin the power or thin the herd out is just say no. We're not sleeping on the first night date. We're not sleeping on the sixth date. We may start allowing some heavy petting six months down the road. And to watch both sides of the, the party just sit there and swarm over that little idea It's fascinating because you get people coming up with, well, how are you supposed to know if they're if they're any good? It's like, well, you've kinda already ruined that because you've already slept with other people.
So you're just gonna have to hope they're good.
[01:34:10] Duuude-Ron :
And and hold it. Why why does why is why is sex a a measuring stick for if they're good or not? Because sex isn't it's that's not a measuring stick for anything.
[01:34:23] Rich Chelson:
But for feminist, it is. Well, I wanna know make sure that he knows how to satisfy me in bed. It's like, well, that's where communication comes into play. Well, no. They don't. But at the same time, they when you're you would have the ability to to explore and have a and have a, have a grander time exploring if you would actually you know, if you'd had waited till till marriage Because, well, we're not supposed to know if he's if he's good or not. Well, how do you know if he's bad or not? You don't have anything to reference it against. And that's where the the instant the whole analogy of any sex is is good sex comes from.
And as y'all try to learn stuff with each other and and you become more aware and you start opening up about different things you like to to see, talk, and try, then, you know, your your your significant other is going to be willing to try that. You know? It's like, hey. Well, that sounds scary. I've never thought of upside down from a tree before, but let's try it. You know?
[01:35:33] Duuude-Ron :
I watch it.
[01:35:34] Rich Chelson:
Say a second.
[01:35:36] Duuude-Ron :
Everyone everyone puts on too much about sex is stupid.
[01:35:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, I I get what you're saying. And, yeah, it's it is often got too much power or not power, but too much of an influence. But at the same time, it's a very important part of a marriage, and sexless marriages are gonna fail just as fast as as any other type of marriage that didn't have that type of trust.
[01:36:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But, yes, still, it's just it's
[01:36:11] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I would base my marriage on strictly on the amount of sex that we have.
[01:36:16] Duuude-Ron :
Right. You know, yours and a lot of people's, you know, believe it or not, you know, there's there's there's many different, you know, things to base their marriage on. You know, friendship When Yeah. Communication.
[01:36:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? And that's one thing that I've I've often told a lot couple of clients who were I've been I'm gonna just talk to to see if I get them to come on as as an actual client was because they were a lot some of them were a bit younger and were trying to trying to date and we're and we're struggling when we sit. And it's you know, it can be tough, especially when you find someone who you think you might actually like a lot. It's it's easy to want to go physical. But to really see what you're basing your relationship off of is always try a thirty minute break or a thirty day break where there is no physical touch for thirty days. You get to see each other. You can talk all you want, but you don't hold hands. You don't put your arm around her shoulder. There's no snogging. There's nothing like that. You just y'all are with each other, but you're not holding hands and things like that. Can you have a strong relationship even through something like that?
And even whenever I was in high school, that was a challenge because you start having all these thoughts of, well, they must be finding the getting talking to somebody else. You know? You start having all these other thoughts of, well, she's gotta be gotta be wanting, you know, having sex with somebody else. Not that I was having sex in high school. I didn't actually have sex until that till I was out of high school. Right. But but, you know, you you have these these thoughts of and you start realizing that there's times that you start really kinda snipping at each other. And that's out of, if anything, out of the fact that your your have you have removed the the feel good dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin from your system because of that person.
So you get, you know so all of a sudden, you become a little grumpier. This is why why so many people so many people actually get cranky whenever they're going off of cigarettes or, you know, they're trying to get off sugar. They turn turn cranky and and and grumbly is because they don't have that feel good in their life.
[01:39:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:39:03] Unknown:
So
[01:39:04] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. I mean, go for it, dude.
[01:39:07] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I that's that's not a bridge I would cross, but, you know, that's I think it just be funny just to see how many how many feminists actually go, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It's like, well, how's your how's your your attack working? Yeah. You could you can say I'm full of shit. You're and that's fine. You know? You're gonna hurt my feelings by by by saying that. But I'm I'm been married for thirty years coming up on thirty years. So I may accidentally know a little more than than someone who is not not necessarily, but, you know, that's the kind of the if you wanna if you wanna stand up stand, you know, face to face with me and go, you don't know what you're talking about. It's like, well, I may not, but at the same time, I just may.
Don't know until until you apply.
[01:40:02] Duuude-Ron :
Right. And see, that's the thing. You know? I mean, how do they know they know what they're talking about? Because they're listening to your podcast.
[01:40:13] Rich Chelson:
So Yeah. I start finding men.
[01:40:16] Duuude-Ron :
Right? So, obviously, it's like, yeah. Do you really know what you're talking about? I think I do.
[01:40:25] Rich Chelson:
Even if I don't, I think I do.
[01:40:27] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:40:28] Rich Chelson:
I have the American, American ego in in play.
[01:40:35] Unknown:
Well, aren't you just special? Absolutely.
[01:40:38] Rich Chelson:
That's the reason why I don't have paste in the house.
[01:40:42] Unknown:
No. You're like me. You just have super glue.
[01:40:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I've I've already glued too many things together, so I can't I can't put touch that stuff no more.
[01:40:52] Unknown:
Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Do you remember the days that we used to take Elmer's glue, spread it on the palm, and
[01:41:03] Rich Chelson:
wait till it dries to peel it off. Yeah. Peel the skin. Yeah. Look at that. Yeah. All skin come out here.
[01:41:11] Duuude-Ron :
And then and then roll it up into glue balls and spit it through straws at girls.
[01:41:17] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yep.
[01:41:19] Duuude-Ron :
And girls, we liked.
[01:41:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got it. It was good to the girls. Yeah. You gotta annoy that's how you got the girls' attention is by annoying them. Right. Didn't know you could actually be nice to them, and you'd get their attention too.
[01:41:32] Unknown:
Yeah. No. We didn't know that. Our our job was to annoy them. We we ain't hardwired like that.
[01:41:39] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Hell, it's it's funny to watch girls on on TikTok sit there and go, why do guys not respond to us flirting? It's like, because they're guys. We just we're we're already accustomed to being told, you know, we're not worth it. So so when a girl flirts with us, you know, we're just kinda like, okay. That's she's just talking. She's being nice for a change. We don't take we don't even venture over to the, oh, hey. She's flirt me.
[01:42:10] Unknown:
Because we're fucking
[01:42:12] Rich Chelson:
stupid. Yeah. We're we're a little thick. A little thick and a little we totted. Yep.
[01:42:18] Duuude-Ron :
And you know what? A lot of us don't grow out of that ever. No. No. We don't. Amazing amazing how that works, isn't it? Right. I mean, took me a long time to figure that one out. Yeah. It took me a real long time to figure it out. I was a little slow.
[01:42:38] Unknown:
Well, trust me. I'm even slower. Because y'all know my y'all know my situation, but I'm not gonna broadcast it.
[01:42:49] Rich Chelson:
Yep. So Yep. No. That's fine. You don't have to we we don't require wire broadcasting of your issues unless you absolutely want to.
[01:43:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Thanks.
[01:43:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. This week, I I I well, shit. This week's almost over, isn't it? Dang. Yeah. Time time flies by quick.
[01:43:10] Rich Chelson:
Tell me.
[01:43:11] Unknown:
Well and we'll see tomorrow if I don't get just one paycheck instead of two.
[01:43:17] Duuude-Ron :
You'll I've already
[01:43:19] Unknown:
well, the Right. The the VA won't be touched.
[01:43:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Did you get paid from the VA yet?
[01:43:28] Unknown:
No. That won't happen until tomorrow.
[01:43:30] Duuude-Ron :
Till tomorrow? Okay. Yep. Okay. Because yeah. I, yeah, I got paid Wednesday.
[01:43:37] Unknown:
But but So your bank your bank releases it as soon as it drops from Yeah. The VA. Yeah. See, mine holds it until the first of the month.
[01:43:49] Duuude-Ron :
See, that's just that's just messed up because your bank knows it's coming every dad gum month. It's it's there.
[01:43:57] Unknown:
They know it. You're right. And you know why they do that?
[01:44:00] Duuude-Ron :
Why?
[01:44:01] Unknown:
Look how much interest that bank makes on hundreds of thousands deposits that they keep for two days, how much interest they make on that money.
[01:44:15] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, but still, that's rude. You've been with that bank for how long?
[01:44:21] Unknown:
Fucking twenty plus years.
[01:44:25] Duuude-Ron :
Right. So they could give you your money early and and and lose out on the whole, what, dollar 42 of interest they make? I mean, I don't I don't know how much interest they make.
[01:44:39] Unknown:
Oh, I get paid a a penny a month.
[01:44:43] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But still, that's that's just that's just rude, man. It's like cut the man's money loose. You know it's there. You know, it's it's sitting in the bank. Mhmm. You know? The bank has it. They're like, oh, no. Oh, no. Our precious. Our precious. Yep. Scared it. My bank says, hell no. Take it. Have at it. We'll freaking put it in the account and spend it.
[01:45:14] Unknown:
Hell, yeah. Because it's all gonna get spent on one thing anyway for the most part. It's all ones and zeros anyway.
[01:45:21] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that's It's not like it's cash.
[01:45:24] Unknown:
Yep. It goes from my account to another account just as quickly.
[01:45:31] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah. Trust me. Trust me. On Wednesday see, I got paid and see it went one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight accounts. Other accounts other than mine.
[01:45:46] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:45:48] Duuude-Ron :
Just on Wednesday. That's, mhmm, that's not counting the other 20 that I have yet to
[01:45:55] Unknown:
go through. Rep.
[01:45:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So so yeah. I mean, it didn't stay in my account long. And you
[01:46:05] Unknown:
does it ever?
[01:46:07] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. No. No. No. No. It it freaking went into everybody else's account Yeah. Instead of mine.
[01:46:16] Unknown:
Yeah. It's spent before it's made.
[01:46:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. But
[01:46:21] Unknown:
Because that's the American way. Absolutely. Credit card. And too bad we don't have the discipline like the Germans do.
[01:46:32] Duuude-Ron :
Do what?
[01:46:33] Unknown:
So too bad we don't have the discipline like the Germans do. What do you mean? They don't, for the most part, they do not finance a vehicle ever.
[01:46:44] Duuude-Ron :
Really?
[01:46:45] Unknown:
They go and pay cash. I got it. Because what they do is when they buy that new vehicle, they that next month, they put into a savings account, basically, a car payment. So they're paying themselves for another five years when they can go and pay cash for another one.
[01:47:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, wow. Okay. I see that.
[01:47:14] Unknown:
Not here.
[01:47:15] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, go ahead.
[01:47:17] Unknown:
Not here. No. No. Everybody's got everything fucking financed and paying interest rates out the ass and making minimum payments, and that's my life.
[01:47:33] Duuude-Ron :
And you see, that's the thing. It's not taught in schools anymore because Oh my boy. They they want they want everyone in debt. America wants everyone in debt and all like this, wherein other countries, they're taught fiscal responsibility still to this day.
[01:47:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And Wow. Yeah. No. They're they're slowly coming around around to to the American way of doing. They just actually let the governments over in Europe. The EU just gave gave the, the countries of the EU permission to go on ahead and go beyond go over budget on on their on what they're doing so that they can actually get ready for World War three since they, think think that it's World War three fixing a fire up. Against who? Russia.
[01:48:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, please.
[01:48:29] Rich Chelson:
Oh, they're working real hard at it. Shit. Well, I know, but they're working real hard at making that, making that the case.
[01:48:37] Duuude-Ron :
That's not a scare tactic.
[01:48:40] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. They're doing everything they possibly can to scare the booger out of out of the the, out of the citizens of of the EU. Wow. Well, let's hope I mean, that's one reason why Finland has told their told their people, hey. You need to go ahead and get start getting yourself, with a, like, a go bag set up and so in case you ever have to take off real quick. They've got an emergency kit. They give you, like, a little checklist, some crackers, and I'll think like a half gallon of of of, of water. It was like, okay. Yeah. That was a fucking joke.
[01:49:21] Duuude-Ron :
So Wow. I I mean, they you see that's and and if and if and if these people fall for it, I mean, I mean, Putin didn't have fire a shot. He can just walk in and just thump him on the head and take over. Because if people are that naive, if if they can be led by the nose like that, like like a lot of Americans are and other peoples of other countries, than I mean, world domination, I'm actually shocked we don't have it already. I'm glad we don't, but I'm kinda shocked we don't have it already just because of that fact. Because, you know, they use scare tactics and scare all these people into doing what the government freaking wants.
[01:50:17] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, that's they've they've been doing that for a while. I mean, that's why do you think so many kids have things like, climate anxiety now? Because schools and and and things like that and other organizations like that and on television and and the other medias that they they consume are always throwing the the the rap about, global warming. It's like global warming's happening. Global we're all gonna die if we get two degrees hotter. It's like, no. We just came out of a out of a, out of a CO two drought, and we're finally getting back up where we're supposed to be. You know what happens when the earth gets a little warmer? It gets a little greener. You know what happens when earth is a little greener?
You get more food. But they have to scare people into into go into being afraid of the fact that the earth might get be getting warm because if they if they don't, then they're gonna lose the lose some power.
[01:51:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well and they will. Oh, yeah. They will lose the power. That's why that's why they're they're freaking keeping this going and and keeping everyone so fucking wound up. And Yep. You know, if it's starting to spread over into other countries and stuff, I'm I mean I mean, this has been coming for the last fifty years. It's just it's just moving at, like, three times the speed that that it used to. Because back when we were growing up, we were still fighting it. Yeah. But everyone after us just rolled over and said, here's here. Screw me up the butt.
Well, that's true.
[01:52:07] Unknown:
Well, yeah, I'm using sand for lube.
[01:52:10] Duuude-Ron :
Right? Yeah. And that's just it's you see, this is what this is why this is why I don't I don't I don't follow this shit no more because it's stupid. It's it's you know, live your life. Don't worry about the world because whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Right. Nothing. Not a damn thing. Nothing. So live your life. If you wanna go and eat an apple in the middle of Main Street hanging on the flagpole nude, get her fucking done, buddy. I'm serious because nothing you do, think, say, whatever is gonna change anything in this world.
Nothing. Live your life how you wanna live your life and enjoy it to the fullest. That's the TSA I have for everybody.
[01:53:12] Unknown:
And the world will reclaim itself.
[01:53:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. It will in due time. Yep. But you know what? Go run around naked and hang on the flagpole and eat your apple and smile like a baby. Serious, man. That's you see, that's the thing. I mean, this is all so freaking simple. We don't need any of this, but everybody has to have something to worry about other than themselves because they don't want to deal with themselves is is the main problem.
[01:53:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:53:55] Duuude-Ron :
They wanna worry about everything else. No. Worry about yourself. Don't worry about me. Because I'm gonna tell you right now, if you tell me I gotta wear a mask or I gotta do this, I gotta do that, baby, I'm free white and over 21. I've been this way for a day or two. I ain't gonna do nothing I don't wanna do. I didn't do it the first time. I ain't gonna do it this time. And don't try and come in my house and steal anything because I'll shoot you first. Oh, damn, Brian.
[01:54:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, got to do it from time to time. I'll let you off the hook too many times.
[01:54:37] Duuude-Ron :
Shit.
[01:54:38] Rich Chelson:
You had me wound up last week, if I remember right. That wasn't no. No. That was that was that was Ron that did that one.
[01:54:48] Unknown:
Ron didn't last week. So so you was like, you I had to do it this week. Yeah. Yeah. I can't let Ron show me up. So, yeah, I was gonna say he's gonna he was gonna say, yep. My turn.
[01:54:59] Rich Chelson:
I don't even know why I don't even know what the hell I said to Wyoming. I can't, Honestly, I can't remember what it was either.
[01:55:06] Unknown:
Yep. You got wound up, and and then we'd start poking that bear and just keep the keep it the string nice and tight. Yeah.
[01:55:19] Duuude-Ron :
No. We don't need no. Because it gives me more gray hair, guys. I've got god. I got too much as it is. That's what we like. Be thankful be thankful you fucking have hair.
[01:55:30] Unknown:
It wasn't Okay. Why you little bitch.
[01:55:34] Duuude-Ron :
Well, if you want, I got hair. I I'll give it to you. I I'll share. I got enough.
[01:55:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. I'm used to this. I don't have to visit the barber. Don't have to pay those costs. I'm good to go. And bald is sexy. Now maybe only in my mind, but, hey. You know?
[01:55:56] Rich Chelson:
That's the only mind that matters. Pretty much. Yeah.
[01:56:01] Duuude-Ron :
See? You don't have to worry about anything. Just yourself.
[01:56:05] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right.
[01:56:08] Duuude-Ron :
So yeah. No. I just but you see, that's man. Oh god. I could just go on and on and on, but I gotta stop sometime.
[01:56:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Recommended.
[01:56:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But it's so hard to see all this stupidity, man. Is it that's that is my major problem. I have a hard time I have a hard time watching stupidity. I can laugh at it every once in a great while, but, god, not too long. Right. After a while, I just enough's enough. But y'all change the damn subject. My mind's one tracked right now.
[01:56:51] Unknown:
How can it be one tracked when y'all already lost a train, a cars, and and a caboose in the fucking canyon?
[01:56:59] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know, dude. I don't know. But but right now, my brain can't think of anything else but stupid people.
[01:57:08] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's kind of the point of, of, idiocracy, ain't it? Well, yeah. I mean ever see did y'all ever see that movie?
[01:57:17] Duuude-Ron :
What movie? Well, the movie Idiocracy. Didn't know it was a movie. Oh, god. Yeah. Okay. No. I have not seen it. It's
[01:57:27] Rich Chelson:
a it's a little bit older movie. I think it came out in, like, the What? '68? No. No. Not that old. It was it had done by Mike Judge. Let's see here. 2006.
[01:57:44] Unknown:
Mike Judge or Mike Judge or Judge Dad?
[01:57:50] Duuude-Ron :
Mike Judge.
[01:57:52] Rich Chelson:
Judge Judge. The king of the hill. Oh, yeah. Most of them, the one was Stallone and the other guy. But but, no, the the guy who created the King of the Hill, it he did the movie. And, basically, it is a, it is a a a movie about Stupidity. That yeah. That how society basically, basically got the old knowledge bred out of it.
[01:58:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I'm sitting here looking at the cast, and there's a couple people. One's name is Frito. Another one's character name is beef supreme.
[01:58:34] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:58:37] Duuude-Ron :
And there's a
[01:58:38] Rich Chelson:
Terry Crews' character.
[01:58:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my gosh. Yeah. No. That's that's a movie. I I could never watch that movie.
[01:58:47] Rich Chelson:
Never. Oh, you would watch it. You'd go, oh my god. That's that's happening right now.
[01:58:52] Duuude-Ron :
No. And see now you see this thing, I couldn't watch it because of that reason right there. I know. Well, I mean I mean, I have a hard enough time hearing about stupidity, but, like like, all them jackass movies or them one where they play practical jokes Yeah. Yeah. Jackass. I I can't I can't watch shows because it's too stupid. You know? It's like it's like, yeah. Some of the things might be funny, but just the stuff that they get people to do, it's like, oh my god. Are you really that gullible? I mean, if you are, you know, I need $500, man.
You know? Seriously, I need, you know, I need a thousand bucks. I don't care. Chill. I'll take a 100.
[01:59:44] Unknown:
I got a piece of desert dune in Louisiana. Right. Sitting right in the middle of the swamp.
[01:59:53] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:59:55] Unknown:
You wanna buy it? Sure. Sign me up. $100,000.
[02:00:02] Rich Chelson:
Hell, yeah. I
[02:00:04] Duuude-Ron :
I'll give you the friends and family discount. $89.09 95.
[02:00:11] Unknown:
Oh, for a second there. You know, I said a 100,000. I thought the friends and family discount was gonna be a 129,000.
[02:00:22] Duuude-Ron :
I am one of the nicer friends and family discounters. I'll actually take a few bucks off. Not many.
[02:00:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Gotcha.
[02:00:32] Duuude-Ron :
But yeah. No. I just yeah. So so, yeah, I can't watch movies like that. And and I'm not I'm not talking bad about about Britain or anything or England or anything like that. I just don't get their humor a lot of times because it's so dry.
[02:00:51] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:00:52] Duuude-Ron :
Sometimes oh my god. Sometimes I'm I'm I am damn near peeing my pants if it hits me right. But for the most part, I can watch, you know, a show from Britain because I've noticed Prime Video is is starting to play a lot of British shows. Right. Maybe a few other streaming services. And, you know, I watch them every so often, but, yeah, their their humor their humor gets lost on me. I don't know why. I mean, I don't know if if if I listen to it wrong or not in the right way or whatnot. But, yeah, I've never I've I've never been able to get their Humor.
[02:01:39] Unknown:
Well, there is a channel that has nothing. I can't remember if I get it or not on it. But there's a couple channels that are nothing but British shows. Right. Soap operas, murder dramas Dosies. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:02:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I've I've I've watched a few British movies and and independent movies, you know, that are from different countries, and I've seen some excellent freaking movies. I can't tell you their names, but, I mean, they're they're you know, if I saw them, I'd I'd remember them, but, you know, they were good movies, really good movies. You know? But, yeah, the humor just actually kinda gets lost on me.
[02:02:27] Unknown:
Yeah. It's it's nice and dry.
[02:02:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Which I mean is fine.
[02:02:33] Unknown:
I like the tone in my in my voice. Just nice and dry.
[02:02:38] Duuude-Ron :
No. Not you, dude.
[02:02:39] Unknown:
Just nice monotone voice.
[02:02:42] Duuude-Ron :
Lows you right to sleep, doesn't it?
[02:02:46] Unknown:
Or the people that I'm talking to. Or or when I was instructing, I put, yeah, I could put your ass to sleep.
[02:02:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I don't doubt that. I tried to go to sleep anytime I was in the classroom when I was in basic. I was trying to catch sleep any chance I got. I just I just I just had to do it to make sure the instructor didn't see me.
[02:03:16] Unknown:
Yeah. I checked it. Chucked quite a few erasers in my instructor days when we still had the privilege of being able to do so.
[02:03:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Well, we'd get smoked. God. I hated that. You're gonna do push ups till I get tired. Damn. Oh, damn. Oh, damn. Oh, yeah.
[02:03:46] Unknown:
And then turn around and do the dang cockroach.
[02:03:49] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, fuck. I hate the dying cockroach. I hate the dying cockroach. That that that was a oh, man. That would tear you up something bad.
[02:04:00] Unknown:
Yep. Or ride riding the Harley.
[02:04:04] Duuude-Ron :
I never had to do that.
[02:04:07] Unknown:
But you know what it is. Right?
[02:04:09] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah.
[02:04:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Brian, don't you like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? Not a clue.
[02:04:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:04:17] Unknown:
Well, dude Oh, see, dying cockroach is actually what it says, dying cockroach. Lay down on your back and keep your legs and arms extended out until the instructor gets tired.
[02:04:29] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:04:30] Unknown:
Yeah. That was brutal.
[02:04:32] Rich Chelson:
Yes. And
[02:04:33] Unknown:
then riding a Harley, you have your back against the wall, but you're squatted to where your lap Oh, okay. Well, that's and hold your arms out holding the pretend handlebars.
[02:04:49] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah.
[02:04:50] Unknown:
Yeah. See how long you can do that for.
[02:04:53] Rich Chelson:
Not long. Nope. No. Usually, it wasn't.
[02:04:58] Duuude-Ron :
But don't you dare don't you dare drop your hands or legs if you're doing a dying cockroach. Because if you drop them, guess what? Everybody's gotta do it all over again. Yep. Yep. Oh, yeah. Those god, those were hell.
[02:05:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Something of what cannot even fucking be done anymore whatsoever.
[02:05:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't know about that. Since they take in all these rules, they might be going back to it.
[02:05:31] Unknown:
Right. They may be going back to it, but they're not they can't be done right now. And, you know, I always got more outcome from corrective actions like that like that than I ever did with a counseling statement.
[02:05:52] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
The point came across a lot more
[02:05:58] Rich Chelson:
vivid. Sutta like. Yeah.
[02:06:00] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you see, the thing is, a counseling statement, that can be that's that's nothing because it it doesn't go on your permanent record. Well, it does, but it doesn't really mean anything.
[02:06:16] Unknown:
Right. Until they get stacked up, and then you get an article 15.
[02:06:20] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. But if you didn't get a lot, they'd never get stacked up, so you could get an article 15.
[02:06:29] Unknown:
That's right.
[02:06:30] Duuude-Ron :
Ask me how I know.
[02:06:33] Rich Chelson:
Right. Rich,
[02:06:35] Unknown:
how do you know?
[02:06:36] Duuude-Ron :
Because I got quite a few of them and never ever got an article 15. And don't ask me how I pulled that one off because I was a mean motherfucker, and I didn't care what rank you were. I do not know how I went through my military career without an article 15. I'm glad I didn't have any, but yeah.
[02:07:01] Unknown:
I doubt For the physical aspect, it always seemed to change an attitude a lot better than a fucking writing shit down on a piece of paper.
[02:07:13] Rich Chelson:
I believe that.
[02:07:15] Unknown:
Oh, and you we're talking about basic training before. Let's see. I came in to basic training in 1986, so that's been ninety six, o six, sixteen, forty years ago. I still yep. I still remember my drill sergeant's name. Senior drill sergeant. Drill sergeant Kenuela.
[02:07:44] Duuude-Ron :
Kenuela.
[02:07:45] Unknown:
Kenuela.
[02:07:47] Rich Chelson:
It's a hell of a name.
[02:07:48] Unknown:
Yep. He was born and raised in the Samoan Islands, and that dude just, like, hit my sternum with his fucking brown round Anytime he was able to because that's how short he was. And you talk a Samoan, and he had the flattest, flattest face of anybody I've ever met. Now It's flat. My drill,
[02:08:17] Duuude-Ron :
I remember my drill. I drilled certain banks, and he wasn't short. Oh, hell no. He was six foot. And then and, he, definitely enjoyed getting up in my face. Now, we did have in, second platoon. I was in third platoon. In second platoon, we had, we had a drill sergeant by the name of drill sergeant Cowan. He little short, slide off little fucker. Had this high pitched voice, and it was funny. A friend of mine, I didn't know a dude. Dude missed his calling. Dude was an artist first first off, but he could also do voices. And he could do the perfect drill sergeant voice.
Right? And we had we were do doing the night fire range or, yeah, the live fire range. And, we got through and, you know, we were all coming through. We were sitting in the bleachers and all, and now it about the time everyone got done, it was like daylight. It was like just getting daylight. And we're all talking amongst ourselves and all like this. And all of a sudden, he just pops up with this perfect drill sergeant, Cowan, saying and and started talking like him. And then about thirty seconds later, drill sergeant Cowan come up and started talking.
Everybody in the bleachers busted the gut. Jills hard and Cowen pulled us out of bleachers and smoked our ass right there. Oh god. I don't know how many of us because I think all four platoons were there. So there was 60 of my platoons, so there was, what, 242 somewhere around 240 soldiers that got smoked at once by, Joe Sergeant Cowan. Oh my god. That was that was freaking hilarious. I lost touch with that guy. Last name was Mullen. I'll never forget him. He was because we was in AIT. He was he was gonna be a mechanic, and the notes he took, he would draw pictures.
And I mean it I mean, look. He draw three d pictures of shit.
[02:10:48] Unknown:
And
[02:10:49] Duuude-Ron :
the instructor come walking around. He said, Mullin, you missed your fucking calling. What the hell are you doing in my army? And he's like, why the hell are you here, man? He's like, damn. You're an artist. But I don't remember what he said, but, yeah, he could do he could do drill sergeant. But, yeah, Joe Sergeant Banks, Tallahlenkee, motherfucker. Made, he he told us on the first day, I'll never forget this, we standing out there. You know? I mean, we didn't know shit from China. It was it was it was after we got out of in processing and we got to our barracks. Banks pulled us out.
And he was talking to us. He said, listen, you motherfuckers. I I I've got 60 of you motherfuckers here right in front of me right now. I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm gonna graduate 60 of you motherfuckers. Ain't none of you leaving. He graduated all 60 of us, and and we all made it. He didn't cut us no slack. And, he made another quarter. Oh, he I mean I mean, I loved him. He was hard as shit, but, oh my god, he was he was awesome. They were funny now. Tall black guy. Tall skinny black guy. Mhmm. So, yeah, this that that was that was my foray into basic training at the lovely Fort Jackson, South Carolina.
[02:12:25] Rich Chelson:
Fort Jackson.
[02:12:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yes, sir. Stayed there for AIT too. Oh, there you go. Yep. I didn't have to go nowhere. And, honestly, I didn't like AIT as much as I like basic, to be honest with you. But it was funny when we got to AIT. Right? See, I was there's this one guy I was hanging with Ott, o t t. Mel Ott was his name. And, he, me and him went up to the PX and everything. And we had just walked out, and here comes drill sergeant Calvin. Boy, boy, we snapped too. How you doing, drill sergeant? Drill sergeant Calvin comes up. He says, fellers, he says, y'all are in AIT. Right?
Yes, drill sergeant. He's like, stop calling me drill sergeant. Just call me sergeant. Yes, drill sergeant. We didn't know because I mean I mean, you you just said, you know, you we're in AIT, and, I mean, that was that was that was that was part of our cadre. You know? It's like Right. Drill sergeant. And, you know, he he was wearing a brown round. You know? And it's like, uh-uh. You drill sergeant. You gonna smoke us if if we don't call you. You know? Oh, no. He was like, no. Just just call me sergeant. Yes, drill sergeant.
[02:13:59] Unknown:
Because that is how you were trained.
[02:14:02] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, exactly. Exactly.
[02:14:05] Unknown:
Try trying to unwire that, yeah, no. That ain't gonna happen. Not easy. Yep. No. It That that hardwiring does not get easily unwired.
[02:14:20] Duuude-Ron :
Exactly. Oh, that's like that's like even today, if I met one in uniform. How you doing, Joe Sardon? It it would just it it's just it's natural for me. You know?
[02:14:33] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[02:14:34] Duuude-Ron :
And it's been, what, thirty four years since I got out? Thirty five years, something like that. Wow. Yeah. And so so, yeah, it's still yeah. It would still be a challenge for me to say anything but. Right. So well, look. You don't see too many many of them over at the VA. No. That is true. I do not. But if I did see one, I'd pry I'd price hey. And you know what's funny? What you wanna bet? Lot of them other old timers too would say the same thing. How you doing drill sergeant? Not a drill sergeant. I bet you right now, I see a eighty eighty year old man walking down in a walker. Can't hardly walk. How you doing drill sergeant? Knowing that and and the thing is the drill sergeant would just smile because knowing that that 80 year old man probably was a drill sergeant before he, was ever thought of.
[02:15:35] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:15:36] Duuude-Ron :
You know?
[02:15:37] Unknown:
Very much so. Oh, yeah. No. I just you know? But the position earns the title.
[02:15:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep.
[02:15:50] Unknown:
And you'll it'll never change. You see somebody with a brown round what's up, Jill Sart? That's right. Always.
[02:16:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Brian, that's like with you. You you know, if you saw someone who, you know, who had a hat on that, you know, had, like, the rank of master chief,
[02:16:13] Rich Chelson:
you might say, hey, master chief. Just Not a yeah. No. It'd be a master chief. Yeah. I'd I'd I'd, you know, recognize the the the the rank for sure. Right? So yeah. Yeah. It's it was be one of those where yeah. We didn't have the the distinguished big round brimmed hat that was that y'all did. It was just I they had their cover, which, like I said, 99% of the time, I think it for for some reason, it's hot bumps in my head. And the audience, if you're if I'm if I'm wrong on that, please correct me. Because like I said, it's been thirty plus year or thirty around thirty years since I've been, been, in the Navy. So so there's a good chance I have forgotten details that you might, remember may have to bring old old, Scott into this because, hell, he's he seems to have a memory of this stuff a lot more than I do. So Right.
But but, yeah, I'm just thinking that they've seemed to always wore, just ball caps for some reason.
[02:17:27] Duuude-Ron :
It's it's very possible. You see, that's where I don't know the navy is, you know, in their in their stuff, so I cannot come in.
[02:17:39] Rich Chelson:
Nor I. And I was there.
[02:17:44] Duuude-Ron :
You had too many drunk nights afterwards.
[02:17:46] Rich Chelson:
Hell, yeah. But let's see what else is happening in the world today. I hadn't actually looked looked much in the way of news. Really don't know much what's going on these days. According to Daily Mail. See. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Everyone's still talking about prince Andrew who is no longer prince Andrew. Yes. He's been banished Okay. For his, for his part with with, with Epstein.
[02:18:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, that's that's, again, something that's smoke and mirrors because there's a lot of people that was knowing Epstein. Not saying all of them were bad or anything or did anything wrong, but, you know, if you're gonna get banned for, whatever with a person, Just don't go after one person. Go after everybody else Right. Is what I'm saying.
[02:18:51] Rich Chelson:
Yep. True true true.
[02:18:55] Duuude-Ron :
But it seems like they pick and choose just to pacify people.
[02:19:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. They do often. So let's see here.
[02:19:05] Duuude-Ron :
And everyone else gates off because they say, look. See over here. See over here. While they're letting everybody run away over here.
[02:19:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I was seeing that there was quite a few, people are getting a little more a little more tired and a little tired over in Great Britain, and the hijinks they're playing over there. So so here soon, who knows? Maybe they'll, actually, snap out of it and realize the people of the of that air of of Great Britain don't care to hear about, about how diversity is their greatest strength because it's not. You bring people who are with a third world mindset into into a first world, it becomes the lowest common denominator, and that's the big problem.
[02:19:59] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:20:00] Rich Chelson:
I just catch there we go. Whatever reason, my phone wouldn't was charging, then it stopped charging. It start charging again, stop charging. God damn it. Still doing it. Let's pull the plug and let's move it. Yeah. Let's see here. How do we, dogs? What group? Yeah. You know, it's sad. It
[02:20:27] Duuude-Ron :
you know, it's sad we have to go to Europe to find news because the news over here,
[02:20:33] Rich Chelson:
Oh, doesn't, yeah. They don't report anything here. No. They don't. You know?
[02:20:39] Duuude-Ron :
It's it it it's sad. You know?
[02:20:42] Unknown:
It is. It is.
[02:20:44] Rich Chelson:
Because, you know, we got quite a few I mean, quite a few stories running around, but all of it mostly is, you know, everybody trying to find a way of stopping Trump. And I'm sorry. That just gets a little old after a while. Yes, Hank. It's like, okay. You're not going to stop the man. He is going to do what he needs to do, and he's feels called to do. He has spent his entire life finding ways of running around Democrats and their dumbass excuses. He lived in New York City of all damn places, so he knows how they work. And so just astounds me that they're always like, oh my god. He's he's just over he's over, you know, running over everybody. He's saying, no. No. Not really. He's just doing what needs to be done.
And just because you don't want it let's see. King Charles's party produce Kent's ninetieth. Shocking TV shows. Shocking CCTV shows, a balaclava, plat team playing chicken with a high speed train at level crossing. Well, you know, fuck around. You're gonna find out. So we'll see here. Yeah. Just not really much in the way of news. See what we got on Fox News.
[02:22:09] Duuude-Ron :
There's probably not much there either.
[02:22:11] Rich Chelson:
Nah. Probably need to jump over to Twitter and
[02:22:14] Duuude-Ron :
Oh god.
[02:22:15] Rich Chelson:
Oh, Twitter's better news than any of the other places. So Yeah.
[02:22:23] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know about that, but then again, I don't play much on Twitter.
[02:22:28] Rich Chelson:
Let's see here. Trending. There we go. Something about Dolphin Sports trending. It's oh, okay. I guess Miami. I don't know. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. I mean, it's all just sports. It's like, come on, man. There is more important rap in the world than sports ball. Sports. Sports. Sports. Come on. It's gonna be see trending news. Speculation rises. JB Pritzker's February amid Trump feuds and ex mockery. Oh, JB Pritzker is. Yeah. UK is still stuck in the woke world. Minneapolis mayor candidate May Omar about the waves, the Somali flag at voter rally.
[02:23:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's that's something else I don't get.
[02:23:25] Rich Chelson:
Mandami? Yeah. Over the the soon to be mayor of New York.
[02:23:30] Duuude-Ron :
Well well, him or or or, Ilhan Omar or whatnot. Yeah. Whatever the hell their name is. I mean, are they actually American citizens? Has it been checked? I I think because because, actually, if if they are American citizens, then Ilhan Omar, her statements about death to America and all like that negate her citizenship. I would think. I don't know for sure. I don't know the law. But, I mean, I think during the interview, don't they ask if if you will, accept America as your own country? Johnson. Because they And and and if she's not an American citizen, how didn't she get elected president?
Or not president.
[02:24:29] Rich Chelson:
But Representative?
[02:24:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Representative or whatnot.
[02:24:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. She is a naturalized citizen. Became a US citizen in 2000 when she was 17.
[02:24:42] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. And so wouldn't her comments negate the citizenship?
[02:24:49] Rich Chelson:
No. Because once you are an actual citizen, then you are an actual citizen. A lot of the people, like, what who ICE is taking off running off with or their people are claiming they're running off with, and and people are saying, well, they had protective status. That doesn't mean you get to sit and do whatever you want. It's not doesn't mean they're protected protected citizen of The US. They're still a a foreign national living in The US. They just have a protected status that, is able to be reversed. Right. And so, yeah, it got re it gets reversed, and they go back to to, the the their country of origin, and the left doesn't like that.
And, yeah, their stories the stories in through the lens that they're telling makes it look like it's horrible. They're taking kids and stuff like this. No. No. Not necessarily true. And if they are, good. I would hate to have kids left behind in The US whose parents were were shipped off into, to to their back to their home country. I'd rather have the kids go with the parents, but that way, you know, we keep the families together. Because if we do are separating the families, then that's not a good look either. That's the worst look in my book. Right?
Loran Mandami is his name.
[02:26:21] Unknown:
Well, okay.
[02:26:24] Rich Chelson:
He is wanting to be the, aiming at becoming the the mayor of New York.
[02:26:31] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I had saw an article on that couple weeks back, and I just I'm like, if if they're gonna let him become mayor of New York, that's just crazy.
[02:26:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. And he is he's fix to show him exactly what, what socialism does. Because hell, you've already got many of the many of the wealthy leaving the leaving the city and moving to, like, North and South Carolina because he's wanting to add a if you, I think if you earn over a million dollars in a year, he's gonna tack on a special 2% tax. And then it's like, no. I'm sorry. But to to punish someone who has gotten successful
[02:27:18] Duuude-Ron :
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Since when does a mayor have that fucking ability? Doesn't the freaking, down here down here, we call it the the chancery court or whatever, something like that. Doesn't the aldermans and the board of director or board or whatever, the town board, aren't they the ones that said that, not the freaking mayor? It depends on what type of government they have set up. I mean well, now I say that, and then I think back to, Rudy Giuliani when he was mayor, and he did a lot of shit without people's permission. But he he actually did a good thing for New York at the time. Oh, yeah. No. Like, the,
[02:28:05] Rich Chelson:
the whole no broken window philosophy. So if any building in downtown had a broken window, they would replace it the same as any of the, subways. If there was any, any, graffiti put on the, on the on the subway cars, they would take it out of service, clean it up, and put it back into into service again. And it took a while for people to start going, well, it's no fun destroying shit. Now you actually gotta take pride in your shit. Sure enough, people started taking pride in their stuff.
[02:28:41] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:28:42] Rich Chelson:
But it it takes a while. And what Mondami is doing is size for well, let's see. Let's see if I can find and promise it helps me spell promises. Yeah. He wants to freeze rent. That'll destroy people. Free buses. Yeah. Where's that money coming from?
[02:29:08] Duuude-Ron :
Free rent. Free buses.
[02:29:10] Rich Chelson:
Yep. You can't do it. Start up the Department of Community Safety, and all New Yorkers deserve to be safe. But the Adams administration has failed to deliver the sense of safety, security that everyone should feel walking it down our own streets. Then start arresting criminals. That's how you make people feel safe. And don't just sit there and go, okay. Well, we put locked them up, stuck them in the jail. Thirty minutes later, hit they're out they're out again on, you know, their own recognizance recognizance.
[02:29:43] Duuude-Ron :
And what are the cops gonna do while he's doing all this?
[02:29:48] Rich Chelson:
Let's see here. Zoran will create department of community safety to prevent violence before it happens by prioritizing solutions, which have been constitution consistently shown to improve safety. So I guess we could use the we could use the army's example on that and start making anytime you're out and about, you gotta start wearing a safety belt. One has to have a safety belt. Go on the chow, put your safety belt on. Wow. But right now, we're lying on see here. Police have have a critical role to play, but right now, we're relying on them to deal with the failures of our social safety net. Yeah. And that and that there's what's problem is you think you have to have a social safety net.
Social safety net is if you fuck up, you pay the price, which prevents them from doing their actual jobs. What their actual jobs is supposed to correct cry correct is to to handle crime. This is new city agency in the whole of government approach, whole of government approach. Government takes on everything. That's definitely not a good thing. The community safety will be prioritized like never before. Almost sounds like, government safety will bend up there. The community safety will end up being like the, kinda like OSHA for, for everybody.
You're gonna start getting fined because, you know, you were doing something that's not safe for you. You get hurt by walking backwards down the down the sidewalk. That's a $150 fine right there.
[02:31:26] Unknown:
Wow. Yes. That'd be a sign.
[02:31:29] Rich Chelson:
Somebody called me. Officer gives you a ticket because you called somebody a knucklehead. Well, he could get mad and punch you in the face. I'm saving your life. Pay this $150 fine. I'm sure it's something that's gonna be something like that. See here. Anyhow, so what else does he got? No cost childcare? Oh, this is gonna fail miserably. City owned grocery stores. That they've tried these multiple times, and they never work. They have out of stock out of date stock. They have shortages of stock. They can't the government can't run a business.
You cannot run a business through bureaucracy. It is flat out impossible. That's why things even like the post office are actually privatized. They catch subsidies from the government, but but as a whole, they are they're privatized. They're it's a private entity. Housing by and for New York, we need a lot more affordable housing, which will build housing in the in the rundown places, but we're not about to build more housing in in the rich places. Get down on bad landlords. Well, you do that, you're gonna create a whole lot more bad landlords with that rent freeze. So you better get, you're fixing to have a whole lot more, fines and and and absentee, landlords running around.
Taxes on big corporations and the wealthiest New Yorkers. Yep. That's what I was telling you about. Revenue will plan will raise the corporate tax rate. Tomas, New Jersey is 11.5% bringing in $5,000,000,000, and he will tax the wealthiest 1% of New Yorkers who's earning above $1,000,000 annually, a flat two percent tax. Right now, see the income tax see, they got a city income tax in New York. Oh. Not only do you pay New York state income tax, you pay New York City income tax. And I'm surprised you don't play Bronx income tax on top of that. I'm sure you might not even have to.
Just wait. It's coming. I mean, now you have to pay a tax to go in and out of the the city as it is. Yeah. Because the tunnels and bridges have all got, are all tolls.
[02:33:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But there there are only tolls going in, coming out. They're free. Oh, are they? Yeah. Unless they change, but I I don't I don't I don't think they have. Going in, yes. Yes. You have to pay one way or another.
[02:34:13] Rich Chelson:
Departing homeowners and ending deep theft. City owned grocery stores, fast, fair, free buses. You can choose two only. Oh, no. It's fast, fare free buses. So fast, free buses. So exploiting fighting corporate exploitation, which you do that. You let the people decide, hey. You know what? I don't wanna have use you as a, as a company anymore. I'm gonna use company b. They vote with their wallet. Yeah. No cost childcare, baby baskets for New York born newborns. Who does baby baskets? Oh, no. What's their k through 12? How those schools are fully funded? Oh, please. Good god. You can't fully fund a fucking school because you got the teachers union wanting their wanting to take their 75%.
[02:35:08] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:35:10] Rich Chelson:
But, dude, you you know it's after ten. Right? Holy shit. It is after ten. You got me rolling on on on on a socialist. So so yeah. Yeah. It is after after ten. So, anyhow, guys, well, it's time to go ahead and roll this, jet on into the, into the airport and say thank you very much to everyone who has taken the time to, listen and and hear what we have say and what we're talking about. And, we are just a collection of three guys. We're we're three good friends and that we have been meeting with each other on online for, oh, at least at least 2020, maybe a little to well, twenty twenty one ish, two. So for for several years. And so we said, you know what? Let's turn this into a into a podcast. And so we've been doing this for a little over a year now and been having a good time doing it. Just sit down and talk about what's on our mind, what we're going through, what we're having, what struggles we're doing, what what aggravations we have, wins or losses and all that good stuff.
But we also like to hear from you. We do a lot of our own talking, but love to be able to hear from what y'all have to say. What do y'all think of the show? What do y'all have to say? You know, was I wrong somewhere? What is you know, like I say, what type of hats are the navy, drill sergeants wear? I I can't even remember what the petty officers wear. If they could call them petty officers with the watch, I think, you know, a lot, they're divisional petty officers. I can't remember what they're what they're even they're called. But, hey. So what is it what type of, headwear do they do they have?
And why don't if you if you have a better idea of what it is and and stuff, especially, like, back in the late nineties whenever I was in the, in the navy, then that would be, I'd love to hear from you. You could shoot me an email over at [email protected], or you can get ahold of Rich over at r chelson, and that's [email protected]. And let us know what you think. Well, you know, are we doing great? Are we doing bad? Are we, was I being a complete and total moron with something I said? Love to be able to be told that. I love to have a conversation with it. So, with that, if you, if you wanna be able to support the show, we do a a little bit different way of supporting the show, which is that we do value for value, and that is through time, talent, or treasure. You can provide your time. You provide your talent of whatever it is you have, or you could provide treasure.
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[02:39:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, not too much. Just wanna thank y'all for listening and keep coming back. And just looked at our numbers earlier, and looks like we're gonna have about the same number of downloads this month as we have had last month. So thank you, and please keep telling your friends, your family, your loved ones, hell, tell someone you hate. We don't care. And, yeah, reach out to us. Say, hey. How you doing? How's your mama and them? You know? And send us an email, [email protected] or Brian there at [email protected]. And if you wanna hear the wisdom of the dude, send it to me or Brian, and we'll make sure the dude gets it, and we will make sure to pass on the wisdom of the dude.
So that's about all I got. Again, thanks for listening. Keep coming back, and, we'll be looking for you next week. Dude, what you got?
[02:40:06] Unknown:
Hemorrhoids.
[02:40:07] Rich Chelson:
Hey. There he is. Yeah. I thought he passed out on us. I I was for a moment, but then I heard the call call call test. It's a there was a door or something shutting. So I was like, I was in the window. He fell over. Yeah. Y'all almost was out.
[02:40:26] Unknown:
But, of course, that's that's what happens when you're up at 04:00 in the morning.
[02:40:31] Rich Chelson:
That's right. But
[02:40:34] Unknown:
no. Everybody listened. We enjoy you coming back to hear us and and repeatedly come back. And, we just enjoyed having the conversations that we have. And if you feel that they're funny, interesting, you know, please allow your friends to or let up let your friends know, hey. This is what I'm listening to. Please give these guys a listen and see if you like it.
[02:41:04] Rich Chelson:
Absolutely. So alright. Well, Rich, Ron, I appreciate it. Y'all coming on and joining joining up again this week and hopefully next week. My voice will actually be a little bit, a little bit better. My the the frog is is in completely. I sound like, oh, dude. I was doing too much, mister Johnson. So but, but, anyhow, guys, y'all take care. Y'all be safe on the hell you're out and about driving. And, Rich, don't let those don't let those hand radio guys abduct you or anything.
[02:41:43] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. I won't.
[02:41:46] Rich Chelson:
And we'll, we'll talk to y'all next week. To the listeners, we'll see y'all next week also. Till then. Bye. Peace. Peace out. Alright. Later, guys. Later, guys.
[02:41:59] Duuude-Ron :
Bye.
Opening banter, illness at home, and al dente vs. soggy noodles
Cornbread from real cornmeal, beans, and smoked turkey necks
Memes, cars we love or hate, and the Cybertruck camper shell rant
EV costs, accessories, home charging, and car-as-a-service gripes
Contest season is here: ham radio DX, islands, and 155 contacts
How contest logs are checked, multipliers, teams, and categories
Results from last year, operating hours, power levels, and antennas
Pets vs. contesting: Bella demands dad time
Daylight saving, sleep deficits, and road-trip energy
Linux switch: Zorin, Mint, NVIDIA drivers, and Zoom on Linux
Ham radio software on Linux, Wine hurdles, and DIY coding with AI
Cruising the Coast plans, 4x4 jokes, and military running woes
Uniforms, drill hats, and bringing back the brown round
Navy boot camp belts, hell week, and Great Lakes memories
Army basic training posts, MOS changes, and promotions
PT scores, near-miss bragging rights, and the Kramer rivalry
Black Bear Pass, Jeep rollovers, and off-road repairs gone pricey
Show notes praise, AI titles, and blog slump confessions
Dating talk: feminism critiques, pacing intimacy, and marriage takes
Banks, pay timing, and personal finance gripes vs. German habits
World War III worries, scare tactics, and live-your-life monologue
Smoke sessions: dying cockroach, riding the Harley, and corrective actions
Article 15 close calls and memorable drill sergeants
News scroll: UK royals, immigration, and NYC socialist platform
Wrap-up: who we are, how to reach us, and value-for-value sign-off
