Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this episode of Two Grumpy Vets, Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude engage in a lively discussion about their daily lives, work experiences, and the quirks of driving trucks. They share humorous anecdotes about dealing with dirty trucks, the frustrations of long drives, and the peculiarities of road etiquette. The conversation takes a turn as they discuss the unexpected sight of snapped telephone poles and the challenges of navigating traffic with governed vehicles. The trio also delves into personal stories, including Rich's upcoming dental procedure and the unique culture of the Amish community.

The hosts explore a variety of topics, from the intricacies of podcast production tools like Riverside to the geopolitical tensions between Israel and Iran. They reflect on the resilience of the Amish lifestyle and its health benefits compared to modern living. The episode is peppered with candid opinions on societal issues, the inefficiencies of government systems, and the importance of standing up for one's rights. With a mix of humor, insight, and camaraderie, the hosts provide an engaging and thought-provoking conversation that keeps listeners entertained and informed.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.  

[00:00:11] Rich Chelson:

We do this by throwing a little social commentary  

[00:00:14] Bryan Goodwin:

with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan,   Rich, and the Duuude.  

[00:00:35] Duuude-Ron :

Mister Brian.  

[00:00:36] Rich Chelson:

Hello. Hold up.   And   oh,   almost there. Didn't wipe me.   I wanna blow   k.  

[00:00:52] Duuude-Ron :

Gotcha. Come on.   Come on.  

[00:00:57] Rich Chelson:

There it is.   Alright. There we go.  

[00:01:03] Duuude-Ron :

What's going on?  

[00:01:05] Rich Chelson:

Oh, not much. Just, fixing to get off work. I just got to,   gotta go do some,   do some washing on the truck.   I forget since I was some of the   yeah. Overseer   of the trucks   made a comment about how dirty my the overseer of the, of the   of the sand,   of the sand saw   saw the condition of the truck and he was and stuff. He was like like, comments about how,   little little dirty there. Like, alright. Yeah. I'll go clean it up   then. So  

[00:01:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They they like they like their trucks looking pretty even though you're in sand and all. Sand and all.   Yeah.  

[00:01:52] Rich Chelson:

So I figured, hell, I'll try the   I'm gonna try the, the I've been hitting one particular,   wash bay, and I was   came across the other one. I was like, alright. Well, let's try the other one. So, hopefully, it didn't make too much noise. I'll just have to may end up having to be a little bit on the quiet side for a bit.   That's fine. At least they got better looking brushes than the other aisle,   except they got,   one one that apparently has been snapped off.   That's fine. Alright.   So but, yeah, we'll have to   actually, I might just   jump out and   grab there. Grab one one brush because they've got two   in here.  

Let me let me look here. Got   see what we have for,   for for instance, because that's the other important part.   Does this rinse off hose work? It does.   We're good.   Let's see here. Let me   where is the   there we go.   Oh, well, I've got   I've got nozzles. They used to have a spare one sitting there.  

[00:03:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   okay.  

[00:03:17] Rich Chelson:

Alright. So that's good.   Yes. Yes. Yes.   Headlights are on.   So alright.   Hey. It's Ron.   Dude.   Dude, what's going on, mister dude dude?  

[00:03:30] Unknown:

What's up, gentleman?  

[00:03:32] Duuude-Ron :

Not much. What's up, my shoes?  

[00:03:35] Unknown:

Man,   long fucking day.  

[00:03:40] Rich Chelson:

What made the day long?  

[00:03:48] Unknown:

Just the drive to   Abilene today. Just was a   long drive.  

[00:03:55] Rich Chelson:

I could see that.  

[00:03:58] Unknown:

Yeah. And I,   you know,   And I talked to the guys when I got to Abilene. And on '36,   about a mile from the regional airport   before you come into Abilene,   there was, like,   in in a row,   six telephone poles   that were just   snapped in half.   So   The lines were still intact.   Right.   But six poles in a row just snapped in half and just dropped down. It's like,   how the fuck does that even happen? Well, you get tired.  

[00:04:39] Duuude-Ron :

No. It it it does happen. I've I've seen it when I was locating. I've seen poles.   I mean, I didn't physically see them snap, but I got called to, an emergency where the poll just snapped. No one was around.   It just said, I'm out, like Brian said. I'm tired. They got that. Like, no boss.  

[00:04:59] Unknown:

Yeah. And, you know, I can understand that because there's a pole right next to   the facility in Abilene that looks like   it could do that at any time itself.   And so it's like but six in a row, and there was, you know   and I understand if you have, like,   tornado, you know, but, of course, the wires would be gone as well.   But six poles in a row that just   failed  

[00:05:29] Rich Chelson:

Now it's hella what causes,   the water in it. The or the, the lights to the electricity go out here and  

[00:05:39] Duuude-Ron :

then,  

[00:05:41] Rich Chelson:

storms   is I've seen them I've seen them where they've been,   holes have just been still got the all the supporting,   cross members, the yard arms and stuff,   still connected to everything, but everything below that little,   loop is all snapped off.  

[00:06:00] Unknown:

You know, and I could and when you just said that, I'm thinking, okay.   One pole could've just   failed,   and then when it dropped, the next poles Yeah. I just turned on the back and back and back. Yep. And just but they were   the funny thing about it is is when they   snapped, they were all   I think, four of them were still  

[00:06:25] Rich Chelson:

upright.   Yeah.  

[00:06:28] Unknown:

You know, they were not none of them were on the ground.  

[00:06:31] Duuude-Ron :

No. The What? Believe it or not believe it or not, the,   electrical lines   actually have a lot of strength in  

[00:06:39] Rich Chelson:

them. Oh, okay. Yeah. They have to to   to to hold all the tension.  

[00:06:46] Unknown:

That and wind and elements and, you know, all that other stuff. Yeah. Yep.  

[00:06:51] Duuude-Ron :

So yeah. I mean, I've seen,   I've seen a storm come through   and break, you know, four or five poles in one row,   and,   all of them stayed upright.   The,   electric wires were,   you know, still attached and all like that.   Now I'm not sure if anybody had power because this was out in the middle of the country.   Oh, heck. Yeah.   You know, it is it is possible because, I mean Yeah.   You know?   So,   yeah, it's crazy to see that, though. It's not something you see every day.  

[00:07:29] Unknown:

No. It is definitely not something you see every day. And when I passed through, they had,   oh,   shit, probably   probably   a   truck   per pole,   and then,   they had a couple more support trucks   that had brought impulse,   but they were all   you know, had to sit in the, driving lane. So, basically, one lane was closed off, and there's six DPS officers out there, you know, direct   directing traffic,   and, you know, the truck was pulled over. I'm thinking, you know, if that truck   and I when I drove by, I'm like, you know what? I'm expecting to see damage on the front of this truck.   Because if he took those poles out and came back on the road,   you know, he's gonna have a fucked up truck. Nope. I guess they just stopped him for   whatever reason.  

Right. Right next to right next to location. But, yeah, there's   you know,   it it was it kinda swampy in that area, so they couldn't take all the support vehicles   off the road surface   because they would've just sank.   Yeah. Right?   Yeah. They've up in Abilene, they've had a lot of rain just like we've had a good amount of rain here as well.   And so,   yeah,   that   was that was interesting. That's for sure.  

[00:09:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. Definitely not something you see every day.  

[00:09:09] Unknown:

No.   Nope. Absolutely not.  

[00:09:14] Duuude-Ron :

I've seen it a few times, but,   yeah, it's just it's just not something you see every day.  

[00:09:21] Unknown:

Well,  

[00:09:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:09:27] Unknown:

So, yeah, that was that was my   wonderful drive and just  

[00:09:36] Duuude-Ron :

But  

[00:09:37] Unknown:

God, I hate people when they do 10 miles an hour underneath the speed limit.   Oh, yeah.  

[00:09:46] Rich Chelson:

Definitely good exercise as a patience.   Not that you want it. Yeah.  

[00:09:52] Unknown:

Yeah. You know? And   the funny thing about it is is it's a fucking it's a rig   doing fit   let's see.   36   is, in some places,   75 miles an hour   or 70 miles an hour. No. 75 because I'm governed at 65.   This motherfucker is doing, like, 52   for no reason.   Nothing in front of him. And then he fucking speeds up, and he's going faster than me and the other truck that's in front of me   and then slows down. It's like, you know, motherfucker, get the fuck off the goddamn phone.   Stop texting to you or fucking pull the fucker over and let everybody go by.   Alright.  

So it was and   I see they built some new,   just   West   west yeah. West of   I don't know. What the fuck is that town? It's not Rising Star. It's crossing or,   Crossing plains.   You know, they built a stretch to where there's some some passing lanes.   I was finally able to get past them two motherfuckers. It's like, goddamn.  

[00:11:11] Rich Chelson:

And if you felt fast when when you got to do that, it's like, oh, oh, that's silly.  

[00:11:17] Unknown:

And it's like, you know, if you can't fucking drive the speed limit, get the fuck off the road.   I don't know. That just   pisses me off to no end. I know I can't do   the speed limit,   but damn it. I'm trying to fucking do the best I can with the government vehicle.  

[00:11:41] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:11:42] Unknown:

You know? And, you know, how you see trucks when they're getting,   passed   by other trucks. You know, they try to move over onto the shoulder   to give them a little bit more passing room. Right?  

[00:11:55] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:11:56] Unknown:

Yeah. We can't do that anymore.   Now that we have the cameras and the trucks,   we can't do that anymore. Because it you know, if I had room to get over, if I would had a whole fucking   traffic jam behind me, I'd still roll,   but I would move over on the side.  

[00:12:13] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Do the shoulder pass.  

[00:12:15] Unknown:

Yeah. And let everybody fucking pass me and get back on the road. But, yeah, now that we got cameras, we can't do that anymore. No love. Amen. No love. So it's like just rude, man.  

[00:12:26] Rich Chelson:

It is.  

[00:12:29] Unknown:

Yeah.   Especially with those cattle trucks that can do 90  

[00:12:33] Rich Chelson:

plus. Yeah.  

[00:12:38] Unknown:

110 downhill.  

[00:12:41] Rich Chelson:

Uphill.   I've seen some just pass me back going back like, I was going backwards   uphill. I'm sitting there strong doing barely 50 miles an hour. Yep. It's boom.   It's like, oh, god.  

[00:12:56] Unknown:

Yeah. No shit.   But, yeah, double runs all this week.   That's been a lot of fun as well.   And, again, I have a double run tomorrow.   Yeah. Austin and Waco.   Last week, I was able to fit on Friday, the double run,   Austin and Waco. I was able to fit it all on one truck.   This week,   I'm just two pallets over to where I could not fit everything on the same truck. I'm like, damn it.  

[00:13:34] Rich Chelson:

That's frustration.  

[00:13:36] Unknown:

Yeah. That's frustration.  

[00:13:38] Duuude-Ron :

So I wouldn't   say I wouldn't care because it's like, you know what? So what?   Let someone else take it.  

[00:13:45] Unknown:

Well, there's nobody   left. Well, yeah, I understand you. But, yeah, we gotta drive her out. So it's like, okay.   Instead of an eight hour day, it'll be a nine hour day.   You know, I just have to go to the plant and drop off and pick up and   go back on my merry way.   But that's okay.   I don't I'm not gonna complain. I'm I'm able to   be home every night and sleep in my own bed.   So   Yeah. Yeah.   That's one of the biggest things.  

[00:14:22] Duuude-Ron :

See? So, I mean, if you don't take it today, guess what? You can take it tomorrow   or the next day or next week.  

[00:14:30] Unknown:

Yeah.   Unfortunately,   it's not able to work quite that well.  

[00:14:37] Duuude-Ron :

Well  

[00:14:38] Unknown:

So   but that's okay.   They   they pay me by the hour.   Absolutely.  

[00:14:46] Duuude-Ron :

That's I mean, so you see, that's where that's where I wouldn't worry about it because   unless you're getting paid by the piece count and if you get paid by the piece count, oh my god. You'd be sucking high in Ted anyway, unless they paid real well.  

[00:15:01] Rich Chelson:

You mean, but throw hell, if you have number   dead on there. Yeah. You probably double up just to, you know, just they'll just take the back roads.   Right. So somebody about be black and white, you close your eyes so they don't see you.  

[00:15:21] Unknown:

Well, pretty much what an officer does is if I put my head in the sand, nobody can see me. Exactly.   Yeah.  

[00:15:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh.   Yeah.  

[00:15:33] Unknown:

So, anyway, yesterday,   we when we were having our conversation,   and I made the statement that   I lied.  

[00:15:45] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. We we're gonna talk about the big lie. The big lie. Yes.  

[00:15:51] Unknown:

And   I am not   a fucking duck person. Don't have any ducks on my dash.   You know, when I get them, I reduct   and   get rid of them as soon as possible.   However,   I am fixing to put   one duck   on my Jeep.  

[00:16:17] Duuude-Ron :

Which one? I don't believe you.  

[00:16:20] Rich Chelson:

You don't believe me?  

[00:16:21] Duuude-Ron :

No. I don't believe you.  

[00:16:30] Rich Chelson:

Yes. I will. Suspense is coming.  

[00:16:33] Unknown:

Yeah. I am going to,   yes, have a duck   on my Jeep.  

[00:16:40] Duuude-Ron :

Which one? Is that one you got from down here?  

[00:16:44] Unknown:

Nope.  

[00:16:47] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:16:48] Rich Chelson:

Good luck. A girl gave it to him.   No.   Nope?   Oh, no. I didn't realize that. It was a good looking boy, really.  

[00:17:01] Duuude-Ron :

You've talked about that for a couple years, dude.  

[00:17:05] Unknown:

And, you know,   I was   helping my neighbor with with his truck,   couple days ago.   Damn it. Where is it at?   There it is. Okay. So the the reverse side is coming at you, so it should be there.   So yeah.   And, you know,   he knows that I am not a duck person whatsoever. Ain't gonna put no fucking ducks on the dash.   And then, you know, I was telling him about the the,   event that I went down to in   in Mississippi.   And,   you know   oh,   I gotta see this one. So I went in and got the the octopus   and the big duck   that I got from   the, parade   and then brought them over. It's like, you know   and this is great that I got this big duck, but it's never gonna go in the Jeep.  

And I told him, it's like, you know, there will only ever be   one duck   I put   on my Jeep.   And there   at the plating convoy. Right? Was that the lead character, Chris Gustafson?   Yes.   Okay. The it was Chris Gustafson that played. Right?   Yes.   Okay.   So and his   being rubber duck, and then I you know,   he was looking it up, and he shows me a picture   of the duck. I'm like,   that's exactly the one I'm talking about. So he's fucking around with his dye powder   or his   tablet or whatever.   And, you know, we're still   talking, and he's, like,   interrupts me and says,   it'll be here on   on Wednesday.  

Sure as shit. On Wednesday,   it showed up. Came and knocked on my door and said, here you go. I'm like, no. You gotta stop this shit.   It's like, seriously? He got me d rings.   You know, that step that's in the back and the guard cover?   Yeah. Or   trailing that's,   underneath the rear,   or the spare tire.   He got me that just out of a fucking whim, and then he gets me this duck. It's like, you gotta   you gotta stop this shit. He's like, you know what? If it makes you happy   and it puts a smile on your face, it makes me happy.   I'm like,   alright. But you need to stop doing this shit.  

Yeah. This is the thing that he has gotten for me for my Jeep  

[00:19:57] Duuude-Ron :

just   because.  

[00:20:00] Rich Chelson:

Doesn't seem like a good idea at the moment.  

[00:20:03] Unknown:

Yeah. Seem like a good idea at the moment. So now I gotta   make a mounting bracket because I really don't wanna put a hole in the hood.   So,   you know, where the word Jeep and the,   oh, the on the grill  

[00:20:20] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh.  

[00:20:21] Unknown:

Is that I'm thinking about taking the two e's off of there   and just putting a bracket and attaching it right there on the grill.   So   But, yes,   I lied   and said that I need was never gonna have a fucking Jeep or a duck on my Jeep,  

[00:20:39] Rich Chelson:

and now I'm gonna have a duck on my Jeep. Oh, you're gonna have a you're gonna have the the rubber duck.   Just any duck. You've got the rubber duck. So Yep. Yep.  

[00:20:50] Unknown:

Yep. The angry duck.   Yeah. I've always liked him.   I like you know, one day, I will put that on a vehicle. Well, I guess I'm gonna be putting on the Jeep because it's sitting there right in front of me.  

[00:21:06] Duuude-Ron :

Or you could put it in your garage.   Put it what? Put it in your   garage with the other stuff.  

[00:21:15] Unknown:

No. This one is actually going on   the Jeep.   And I've thought about some of the other ducts that that mean something to me, and I'm thinking about,   getting some   Velcro   and attaching it to the bottom of those particular ducts. There's about   I think I have eight.   And then sticking them   to the carpet that's on   the,   the freedom panel   over the passenger seat and just stick them up there upside down.   But they're not gonna but they're not gonna go on the dash.   But that would be interesting to see if it you know, anybody ever looked in my Jeep and says   and they see the ducks that are hanging upside down on freedom panels.  

Right. And probably just look at me and go  

[00:22:15] Duuude-Ron :

What the fuck?  

[00:22:17] Unknown:

You're dumbass.   I should probably get a couple looks from my from my friends going   and they're gonna be rolling their eyes   going,   you know, this dude is just   out of fucking control.  

[00:22:36] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:22:37] Unknown:

So, yeah, pretty much.   But that's   been   my week. Just   work, home,   work, and home.  

[00:22:49] Rich Chelson:

Work, home, work, home, and and a couple $100.  

[00:22:53] Unknown:

Yep. And, of course,   the Jeep, once in a while, has to stray over to Walmart.  

[00:23:00] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:23:02] Duuude-Ron :

I'd do everything to keep my Jeep away from Walmart.   Because that means if my Jeep's at Walmart, then I'm at Walmart, and I freaking hate freaking Walmart.  

[00:23:15] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, you got another reason to hate Walmart.  

[00:23:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. Yeah. I saw that. So yeah.  

[00:23:24] Rich Chelson:

My good god. Really?   Yeah. My  

[00:23:27] Duuude-Ron :

You know, I mean,   everybody can say what they want,   but they're not gonna stop going to freaking Walmart.   They're not gonna do it. I don't care what they say. No. It's just That's like everybody   yelling and screaming, oh, if Trump gets back in the office, I'm moving out the country. Well, guess what? Y'all ain't freaking left yet.  

[00:23:48] Rich Chelson:

Not not many have. There's been a few.  

[00:23:51] Unknown:

There's been a  

[00:23:52] Rich Chelson:

couple. Yeah. You're right now. About. I just said there was a few.  

[00:23:56] Unknown:

Yeah. And Rosie O'Donnell, Ireland fucking wants her out of that country as well.  

[00:24:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you see, Ireland can kick her out.   See, that's the thing. When you go to another country,   they have rules and laws in place.   They can physically   remove you from their country.   They don't care. Their  

[00:24:18] Rich Chelson:

their their rules on immigration are usually even stricter than  

[00:24:22] Duuude-Ron :

ours. Oh, by far. Mexico's   rules. Is one of the worst. Exactly. Yeah. Freaking Mexico actually has worst immigration laws than we do. And they ain't nice about it. They don't they don't pander to anybody. If you screw up, guess what?   You show up somehow. And fly in the,  

[00:24:42] Rich Chelson:

flying the, the American flag and start burning random cars.   Yeah. You pretty much   go into a Mexican prison for a little while. Yeah. And from what I understood, those aren't very fun.  

[00:24:55] Duuude-Ron :

If you don't get shot   Exactly.   And I mean, literally, get shot because Yep.   Those people in those other countries, they don't   they don't worry about nothing.   They just take they just fix it.   You know? Yeah. And  

[00:25:15] Unknown:

and see, that would be nice if we could just   fix it.  

[00:25:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know what? We can.   Oh, no. No. Hold it, dude. We can. We just need people to stand up, grab their freaking balls,   and say, screw you. This is what we're doing, and then do it.  

[00:25:35] Unknown:

Yep.  

[00:25:35] Duuude-Ron :

That's the whole problem right there. No one will stand up for anything.   And this is why we have this bullcrap going on that we have going on in LA and everywhere else.   Because no one   no one will stand up, grab their dick, and say, fuck you.   I was trying not to cuss, but I just I I couldn't.   You gotta. You you you just gotta say the word, you dirts. It it just it it just all this shit,   I I'm just so tired of all this shit.   Oh, yeah. And, you know, it's the same shit day in and day out, week in and week out, month in and month out. Mhmm. When are we gonna have a fuck enough of it?   Yeah. You know?  

I mean, it appears to go on.   Because this has been going on for years.  

[00:26:26] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[00:26:29] Unknown:

Yep.   And, you know,   they fucking whine, bitch, and well, now not getting due process. Well, you know what?  

[00:26:39] Rich Chelson:

You don't you're no one promised you to due process. You you didn't get here legally.   You have temporary. The keyword is temporary   protected status.   Not permanently protected status. You were there. You just had protected status for a temporary bit.   So the temporary is a lot.  

[00:27:02] Unknown:

Yeah. And if you came here illegally,   that's a fucking felony.   Yep. Time to fucking go   bye bye.  

[00:27:12] Duuude-Ron :

You won't get protected status in another country.  

[00:27:18] Unknown:

Yeah. You're right.   We won't give shit   if we go out of the  

[00:27:24] Duuude-Ron :

You won't.  

[00:27:26] Unknown:

Because   they'll fucking kill you just look at you.  

[00:27:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Absolutely.   They don't care.  

[00:27:34] Unknown:

Yep. They don't   care. You're right.  

[00:27:38] Rich Chelson:

I only got majority of them. Don't cough. We're gonna call that good.  

[00:27:44] Unknown:

Okay. Call it good then. Whatever the fuck.  

[00:27:47] Rich Chelson:

That was all you, the truck.   Yeah. It did make it look pretty. Yeah. It did make it look prettier than what it was.   I had I had my SPC was kinda talking about it. So   just making a little comments, and I was like, okay. Okay. That that hint has been   been received, and away I go.  

[00:28:09] Unknown:

But what? Your boss was telling you you need to get the damn truck washed? Yeah. Yeah. It was like because  

[00:28:14] Rich Chelson:

when we when we had all that rain   Uh-huh. Make sure I've got enough time here. Yeah. An hour thirty six. Good.   When we had all that rain for whatever reason, we have a we have a toolbox that sets in on the back of the, catwalk.   Okay. And   the last person who had this truck   took and   had a bill and not just taking care of the high bill. It just had it laying in there, and it the high bill, you know, with a bunch of   the inside there. And so   as the rain fell and it got inside of the the toolbox,   it filled up with water, started dripping out, and so it was slinging,   you know, mud and shit up all up on the, the back of the of the truck.  

And it was all over the the the, the fuel tanks and the and the and the fender and everything else. It just looked like it looked like an oily fucking mess. And so that's it. And I was gonna do it on on Saturday because I figured I was gonna be kinda short on on hours on Saturday anyhow. But at the current rate that we're going, I'm only getting two load   today, and that's   that's because it takes, you know, three hour it's a three hour turnaround to get,   get from where,   where we're,   picking up the sand, sand cans, going to get it loaded and making it back to, to Sagepad.   So   by the time I get to I get   I get and,   and, and stuff. So and then you have to set for your do your thirty minute break somewhere in there, and you might be able to get another load in,   but, not always. In the past two days, I have not been able to get that load in.  

I'm down, like But   You're still getting by the hour, what's the matter if if you get Oh, I know. Loads or I I wouldn't because I like I like saying. I got flare it was that's just ego.  

[00:30:15] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:30:17] Rich Chelson:

Not to mention, if I can get that load, I get closer to my twelve hours.   So now I have to find different ways of,   maintaining my,   my on duty by being kinda finding something busy to do. So that's one of the reason why I was kinda rinsing the truck off.   So I got   now that,   I've got my twelve hours in now. So  

[00:30:40] Unknown:

Well, you could always,   drive slower and piss everybody off behind you.  

[00:30:48] Rich Chelson:

This is true.  

[00:30:51] Duuude-Ron :

There you  

[00:30:55] Unknown:

go. I'm a lot. And I get paid by the hour, but it still agitates the holy bejesus out of me if   I am   not doing the speed limit.   Yeah.   And somebody is holding up my progression.  

[00:31:12] Rich Chelson:

I understand.  

[00:31:14] Unknown:

And one day,   one day, but it ain't gonna be today or probably tomorrow,   I will just eventually say,  

[00:31:21] Duuude-Ron :

you know what?   Fuck it.  

[00:31:25] Unknown:

When I get there   is when I get there   because the traffic ain't gonna change,   and I'm gonna be fucking sitting in it anyway.   So   why fucking stress it?   But I just have not gotten to that point as of yet.   Maybe   in ten years. Who knows?  

[00:31:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We'll see.   You'll get there, though. I believe you will.  

[00:32:00] Unknown:

I'll get there.   It's it's agonizing   on a daily basis, but I'll get there.   Do we lose something? Brian.   Yeah. He was he was kind of   in and out when he was talking anyway, but I'm sure he had his headphones in and,   you know, etcetera.  

[00:32:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So   Right.  

[00:32:26] Unknown:

So did you have some wet air down there today?  

[00:32:31] Duuude-Ron :

No. Not today.   This week, we have. I've I've had three and a half inches this week.  

[00:32:39] Unknown:

Yeah. And, we had a little bit of rain. You know, one of my one of my coworkers lives about   eight blocks from me. We we live in the same neighborhood.   And he asked me it's like,   you see all that lightning   last night? I'm like,   what the hell are you talking about? He's like, I I said, what what time?   He said about 02:30.   I'm like, nope. Missed missed the whole ordeal.   I they didn't   faze me one bit.   I guess we had one hell of a lightning storm around this area.   No. No. I didn't even wake up with any thunder. Nothing.   Yeah. About 02:30, it was freaking just   it was hammering us. I'm like Yeah. Glad I didn't wake up because then I woulda had a hell of a time trying to get back to sleep again.  



[00:33:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. The other night, I I was sitting up watching TV. I mean, it was it was storming bad, rain hard,   thundering lightning.   And,   there's a bolt of lightning that cracked,   probably   a block away.   I mean, it it touched ground a block away. So  

[00:34:00] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, that was like I was woke up   while I was down there. It was, like, in the middle of the night, and I was out having a cigarette.   And same thing   happened. It was   a lot of lightning,   and then there was a touchdown about,   oh, I'd probably say   less than a mile   from your house.  

[00:34:24] Duuude-Ron :

I believe.  

[00:34:26] Unknown:

And, you know, yeah, it it rattled   the porch.   And I went and then I walked back in there and yours. I'm like, I wonder if that was so great. It's like,   no.   Dead to the fucking world.  

[00:34:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. I was done. I was gone.  

[00:34:43] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   You were gone. Motherfucker. Yep.  

[00:34:51] Unknown:

Didn't wake him up.  

[00:34:53] Duuude-Ron :

Nope.  

[00:34:54] Rich Chelson:

Nothing but It's his time to go. It's his time to go.  

[00:34:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. That's right.   And I'm gonna sleep peacefully right through it.  

[00:35:03] Rich Chelson:

That's right.   That thing is you'll probably end up having to wake up,   startled like you've got that feeling of falling and find out, oh, shit. I'm actually falling.  

[00:35:14] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:35:17] Unknown:

Right. It would really suck. No.   But like, ugh.   Especially if you're   especially if you're flying in a plane   or you fall asleep on a plane. Oh, yeah. And then and then dreaming that you're falling, and you wake up and you're fucking falling. It's like You're actually falling. Like, no. Oh, yeah.   Oh, that's gonna fucking hurt.  

[00:35:41] Rich Chelson:

That's gonna leave a mark.  

[00:35:43] Duuude-Ron :

I just I just I just roll over, close my eyes, and say fuck it. Game over.  

[00:35:50] Unknown:

Yep. It it's like, you know, because the fall   you ain't the fall is not gonna hurt you   whatsoever.   None. Zip zero, zips. You get   to mask one off. Yep. You'll just,  

[00:36:03] Rich Chelson:

yep. It'll just be, the whole sudden the lights will turn off.  

[00:36:07] Unknown:

Yep. But that   but that sudden stop,   that's a binge.  

[00:36:16] Duuude-Ron :

But that'll last only for a split   though.  

[00:36:20] Unknown:

Yep. Yep.   Alright. Let's see. It's You you won't you won't even be able to get the word ouch out.  

[00:36:30] Duuude-Ron :

No.   No.  

[00:36:33] Unknown:

Well, you'll be cussing the whole fucking way down. That's for sure.   Oh, this is gonna fucking hurt.  

[00:36:41] Rich Chelson:

It'll   hurt.  

[00:36:47] Unknown:

Fuck this. This is gonna hurt.   And then you don't feel anything.  

[00:36:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oops. That's true.   If you do, you did something wrong.   You landed funny.   Alright.  

[00:37:08] Unknown:

Yeah.   You definitely landed landed funny because   I'm expecting to be, you know, right right next to some gates   with Saint Peter saying,   how are you doing? Come on in.   We've been waiting on you.  

[00:37:27] Rich Chelson:

What took you so long?   Yeah.  

[00:37:33] Unknown:

You were supposed to be here ages ago.   But who knows?  

[00:37:43] Rich Chelson:

Well  

[00:37:45] Unknown:

so, yeah, that was   my happy, happy, joy, joy.   Getting the duck yesterday, it's like, yeah.   Now I gotta build a bracket. I thought I might have a bracket at its ass and just be able to attach.   No. Doesn't have a bolt or a bracket on its ass, and now I'm gonna have to build a bracket.  

[00:38:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Shouldn't be that hard.  

[00:38:10] Unknown:

No. It's not. Just a   just a couple of old brackets   or 45 degree brackets.  

[00:38:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:38:19] Unknown:

So   yep.   I'll get something figured out.  

[00:38:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That   that won't be too hard to figure out.   No.  

[00:38:36] Unknown:

Just a matter of,   getting it fabricated and getting it on the Jeep.   Right. But we'll see but we'll see how long that takes.   Now it might it might be on there   by October.  

[00:38:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that I think, you know, I'm not using the coast.   I'm not gonna hold my breath, but if it is, that's cool.   Just say it.  

[00:39:05] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't want you to hold your breath. That's an awfully long time.  

[00:39:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It might that   that might not be a   good choice, life choice. You know?  

[00:39:20] Unknown:

Just so Well, it it might be a good life choice because then you wouldn't be smoking.  

[00:39:25] Duuude-Ron :

Well, this is true. I I this is true.  

[00:39:29] Unknown:

Now now you might be going through one hell of a fucking   nicotine withdrawal   as well as getting nice and blue in the face, but, you know,   that that has nothing to do with Ron. That would be all Rich's problem.  

[00:39:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'm I'm gonna be I'm,   Yeah. I gotta go   and get nine teeth pulled,   not next week, but the week after next. So   I don't know how that's gonna work with me and smoking.  

[00:40:03] Rich Chelson:

They tell you not to because if you do smoke, you're you're increasing your chances of dry socket.  

[00:40:09] Unknown:

Yep. So   either way So what are they what are they gonna do? Just get a bridge? Or  

[00:40:17] Duuude-Ron :

No. I I'm I'm losing five teeth. They're not getting replaced.   The other four are getting old, and I'm gonna wind up getting a partial  

[00:40:26] Unknown:

up front. A bit yeah. Okay. That's what I was saying. Not a bridge, but a partial.  

[00:40:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So   so yeah.   I mean,   I need these teeth fixed, so   I'm wanting to get it done, but   I don't know   what kind of shape I'm gonna be in because the twenty fifth is   I gotta look again. It's a Tuesday, I think.  

[00:40:57] Unknown:

Well, you can't do it on the twenty fifth.  

[00:41:00] Duuude-Ron :

Why?  

[00:41:02] Unknown:

Because you got your fucking radio event that weekend, don't you? After work?  

[00:41:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I know. Trust me. That that   that has been,   I'm hoping by that weekend,   I can at least talk.   I might talk funny, but   I talk funny anyway.  

[00:41:26] Unknown:

Well, yeah, I   I cannot   and will not   disagree with you on that particular statement.  

[00:41:35] Duuude-Ron :

But yeah. Because then because then after I get those teeth out,   couple weeks after that or so,   I've got three fillings I gotta get.   So   yeah.   Yeah, I went into the dentist at the VA and and,   yeah, doc took X rays and everything, and and,   she looked at him and looked inside my mouth and said, yep.   I wanna pull five teeth now.  

[00:42:10] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Okay.  

[00:42:12] Duuude-Ron :

I mean,   I I I mean, I didn't argue because I mean I mean,   the teeth are causing me pain.   Right. Right. You know? And and and, actually, the pain has subsided. It's still there, but it's not near as bad as it has been. So I was like, alright, doc. Let's just do it. Get this shit done.   Get it over with. You know? Because it it's just something's gotta be done.   And Yeah.   Apparently, I've got I've got some cavities or whatnot   that she's wanting to put fillings in. I don't know.   And it's like, you you do you and just   tell me what to do.  



[00:42:52] Unknown:

So So they've already so she pulled five that that very day? No. No. No. No. No. She  

[00:42:59] Rich Chelson:

still gotta do that.  

[00:43:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Actually, they're sending me to a periodontist   who is pulling the nine teeth, and they're and they're gonna pull them all on the twenty fifth.   Okay. They're gonna pull all of them at once.  

[00:43:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Mhmm. There you go. At least you won't,   you only have to suffer through the pain for   a day or two. I would definitely make a,   go and get some, chicken broth and and stuff   ready for you because you ain't gonna wanna eat shit that night.  

[00:43:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, no. I've got bullion cubes, dude. I mean, when   when my teeth were were really flaring up,   what do you think I lived on?   Bouillon cubes.   Yeah. Yeah. You know? Because I I mean, that was I because it was warm. It was soothing, and and, you know, it it it gave my stomach a sense of me eating   even though I wasn't. You know?   But   so, yeah, no. I've done figured that. I've done figured that. And then   and then I got and then I'll lose y'all again.  

[00:44:10] Rich Chelson:

No. I can't even hear you. What the fuck is going on here?  

[00:44:15] Duuude-Ron :

Brian, we can hear you.  

[00:44:20] Rich Chelson:

Brian Ding dong.  

[00:44:22] Unknown:

He's gonna go ding dong here in a  

[00:44:25] Duuude-Ron :

Probably so.   I can't hear him now.  

[00:44:29] Unknown:

No. Neither can I?  

[00:44:31] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, he's   he's probably going  

[00:44:34] Rich Chelson:

splash.  

[00:44:38] Unknown:

Yep. So,   well, I will tell you,   just be prepared for a lot of bruising   on your face.  

[00:44:48] Duuude-Ron :

I don't care about that.  

[00:44:51] Unknown:

Oh, okay. I'm just letting you know. Dude. A friend of mine had   had all his pulled to get dentures, and, yeah, his whole face was   pretty bruised up on the outside.  

[00:45:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. I I   Are you back, Brian? I'm back. Yeah.  

[00:45:08] Rich Chelson:

That time, it was just for whatever reason my Bluetooth side. Oh, yeah. Okay. Never mind. We're not gonna not gonna send anything to yours.  

[00:45:16] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   But, yeah, dude. I I mean, I'm I'm gonna look fucking weird as it is because my front four teeth on the bottom will be gone.   I mean so so I don't give two shits if my face bruises.   I'm I'm probably not coming out the house for a while. You know what I mean?  

[00:45:35] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:45:36] Duuude-Ron :

So,   you know, I don't know. We'll see.   But,   you know, so, yeah, if if my face bruises, yeah, so what?   I don't care. I'm not vain   like that.  

[00:45:49] Unknown:

Oh, neither am I. Trust me. These   as I've been told, I don't have   wrinkles.   I have,   what the fuck what phrase did they use?   Revices.   No.   Knowledge   lines.   Knowledge lines.   That's good. Or something within that.   Yeah. It's like   knowledge lines. It's like,   no. They're fucking wrinkles.  

[00:46:22] Duuude-Ron :

I was gonna say, fuck it. No. They're wrinkles. I earned every one of them bitches.  

[00:46:27] Unknown:

That's right, damn.  

[00:46:29] Duuude-Ron :

I I don't care. No. I I don't no. I'm not sugarcoating it. Fuck you. I got wrinkles.  

[00:46:38] Unknown:

Yep.   But I'm like, well, you wanna call them knowledge lines or, you know, within that realm,   that's cool too.   But every one of these lines, I've earned.  

[00:46:56] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:46:58] Unknown:

Either with knowledge or stress. One of the two.  

[00:47:02] Rich Chelson:

Usually both.  

[00:47:04] Unknown:

Yeah. Usually both.   And it's usually the stress   of the ladder. So what else?   I'm just screwed all the way around.   So did you guys,   hear that   Brian Wilson passed away yesterday?  

[00:47:24] Rich Chelson:

Really? No. I didn't mind. I did.  

[00:47:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Not that, Brian. Really. Yeah. No. I'd heard that.  

[00:47:32] Unknown:

Yep. Yep. That's they haven't said why, but he was,   starting to get   developed dementia. His wife passed away,   what did they say, about   six years ago   from dementia.   And they're thinking that's what he might have,   succumb to.   But he was   82 years old.  

[00:47:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Something like that.  

[00:47:59] Unknown:

Yep.   And now all the all the stars and, you know,   all the famous people is like, well, it always happens in three. So who's gonna be the next two?  

[00:48:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   you well, you see, the thing is is that,   haven't we already had two celebrities   pass? I think Brian Wilson was the   one. You know, I honestly don't know. Because we've had a couple passed just recently.  

[00:48:35] Rich Chelson:

And we had a couple of locals.   Not when I say locals, I mean, just kinda local, like,   a well known weatherman   that,   that,   kinda   pushed a lot of   the,   lot of advancements in meteorology.   He passed, what was it, like, two days ago, two, three days ago.   And so Yeah.   I I have no idea. So I see that would mean. But, yeah, I You wouldn't know who Gary England is. But   but, no.   Well, my own nationwide   celebrities. I don't know. I don't think we really had any here   real recently.  

[00:49:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I think I think we've had a couple in the last couple months, man.   Let me check, see if I can find out. Yeah.  

[00:49:31] Unknown:

But, you know, but how many people have actually died   yesterday?  

[00:49:36] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. In the world. Several. In the past thousand.  

[00:49:40] Unknown:

Thousands   died yesterday   in the world.   Well, you know, it happens all the time.  

[00:49:54] Duuude-Ron :

Val Kilmer and Gene Hackman,   Ryan Wilson, and Roberta Flack.  

[00:50:00] Unknown:

Roberta Flack. That was the one that just passed. Yep.   So And I knew I knew about Val Val   Val Kilmer.  

[00:50:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. We knew about Val Kilmer and,   and, and,   yeah. Yeah.   Lex Luther from Superman.   Yeah. Him.  

[00:50:22] Duuude-Ron :

Richard Chamberlain?  

[00:50:24] Rich Chelson:

No. Not Richard Chamberlain.  

[00:50:27] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, you guys win. No. No.  

[00:50:30] Rich Chelson:

No. The,   okay. And who played   and who was the guy that you just said before, Val Kilmer? Val Kilmer and who?   Gene Hackman. Gene Hackman. Thank you. Good freaking god. I hate it when I can't think of freaking names. So, anyhow, yeah, Gene Hackman. I knew we talked about him   when he passed because he's the one that died when,   because he, had Alzheimer's   and   didn't even I don't they don't think he actually even realized his wife had died,   in the house.   And so he wandered around for a week and and starved and and starved to death.  

[00:51:08] Unknown:

Yep. Yep.   Yeah. Yep. Because they they did they did figure out that his wife passed before him. Yep.  

[00:51:16] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, Norm from Cheers passed. Yeah. Yeah. That was the one who just passed her recently. That's a good point. So so, I mean, I mean, doing in in in threes,   it's   I mean, honestly  

[00:51:29] Rich Chelson:

wherever you wanna take start the three at.  

[00:51:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But but, the thing is, honestly,   I think I think,   you know   you know, that that same people die in threes or whatnot, like famous people or whatever   or family. I I think that's just  

[00:51:47] Unknown:

I don't know. That's just no wives thing. Oh, yeah. It's just an old wives' tale. Yeah. You know? But, you know, that wives' tale has been going now for,   what,   fifty fucking years.  

[00:52:01] Duuude-Ron :

I've been going longer than that. Longer than that.   It's been going longer than that, dude. It's well, I said easily fifty years.   Yeah.  

[00:52:16] Unknown:

And   silence.  

[00:52:20] Rich Chelson:

In shift. Well, I'm in I'm in and shift. I'm got to my stuff, got everything on all out of the truck,   got my hands all nice and greasy.   Still don't know where. I I've got a mystery I've got some oil or grease   on the truck someplace, and I can't ever figure out where   the freak it is because   I'll my hands will be alright. No. They won't be, you know, clean because, obviously, I've been driving a truck and stuff. But, you know, but I'll, usually, around the end of the day, I'll go and I'll be doing my I'll be shutting stuff down, and I try to pay attention to where my hands are at, and it never failed. I go and shut the door, and all of a sudden, I've I've got one hand that's just covered in freaking grease. It's like, where the hell did you come from?  

[00:53:06] Unknown:

So I can probably I can probably tell you where it came from.  

[00:53:11] Rich Chelson:

Well, I know it's not the big wheel.   It's not the,   it's not the, steering knuckles. It's,  

[00:53:18] Unknown:

No. When you're when you're,   detaching the, trailer, I bet you Yeah. But I have gloves on from that.   Oh, okay. Well  

[00:53:29] Rich Chelson:

And, I mean, I put Yeah.   No. Pigtails are all pretty much clean.   I mean, they're not overly greasy.   Oh, you mean They they are kinda right now, but that's I hadn't touched them since I washed them. So But see see see  

[00:53:47] Duuude-Ron :

there could be a spot of grease on the underside that you don't see.  

[00:53:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. There   there's a spot of grease someplace, and it likes to it has egged me for the past two weeks.   It will avoid me until the light of the day, and all of a sudden, it's like, son of a bitch.   Damn it.  

[00:54:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I hate it when that happens.  

[00:54:10] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I'm not as bad as my dad. My dad hated to have his hands get dirty.   He didn't I mean well, he would do stuff where his hands would get dirty. Like, if he was having to, you know, if he was working in in,   somebody or oily or or dirty environment   and his hands got dirty,   it didn't bother   him. But at some time,   when he was done, he was washing his hands.   And so,   like, if he, ate if if we were to go, like, one time, me and Jenna had fun, we took him to go eat lobster.   And I walked to crab.   And,   and, you know, having to sit there and crack it all, all of them open with your hands and stuff.   Boy, he just   just could not, it was like going, golly, I'm making a mess here, you know, and he didn't like fajitas because, again, you used your hands.  

He, he he's the type of guy that eat his French fries with pork.   So that's why that's why January 5 is always French fries with the pork day in, around our house.   So   Okay. And so he didn't like his hands to get dirty,   and, I guess I've got a little bit of that because whenever I see them see that they are visibly dirty, I'm like, goddamn. I gotta figure out how to get these cleaned.   So but, yeah, that's   but same time, I've   I've done that all the time. So what are you saying?  

[00:55:41] Unknown:

Yeah. You know, I'm the same way. My hands are gonna get dirty when I'm working and doing shit on my truck and something like that. It's like, well, yeah. Just gotta go wash the hands, but   yes.   But what drives me absolutely   bonkers.   I can get   if I get mud or anything on the top of my work boots,   I'm good.   Got no problems with it.   I get something on my sole,   and I can hear it.  

[00:56:11] Rich Chelson:

Squeeze. Squeeze. Squeeze.  

[00:56:14] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. That's that's  

[00:56:15] Rich Chelson:

that's coming on. Pop. Slit pop. Slit pop. Yeah.  

[00:56:20] Unknown:

You know, because, you know, if I step on a label   and I can see it,   oh, you know, that that that thing's getting peeled off in a freaking heartbeat.   Now if it's on the top, it doesn't bother me. If it's on the bottom of the soles,   it just,   you know, it's like standing on my last nerve   Exactly.   With golf shoes.   So, yeah, just wonderful pet peeves that we all have.   That may not be your pet peeve, but it's Alright, man.  

[00:57:00] Rich Chelson:

Get key in. Give it a turn.   Home again. Home again. Jiggity jig.  

[00:57:08] Unknown:

How are you doing logging out of your ELD,   or you already did that?  

[00:57:14] Rich Chelson:

Did this make the, swap over?  

[00:57:21] Unknown:

I'm glad everybody knows what the hell he's talking about.  

[00:57:24] Duuude-Ron :

He's constipating.  

[00:57:30] Unknown:

Oh, that was   There we go. Was fucking hilarious.   That that was   I like that one. That was that was a good one.  

[00:57:41] Duuude-Ron :

I come on. Every now and again. From time to time.   Yeah. From time to time.   I've been hey. Hey, Brian. Remember when you said   when you remember when you said something couple weeks back about Riverside?  

[00:58:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:58:04] Duuude-Ron :

I like it.   It's it's,   I mean, I've I've got the free version of it,   because you can   sign up for free and get two hours free. It's actually really freaking cool.   It's just it's expensive.  

[00:58:20] Rich Chelson:

Oh, is it? Damn it. $2.88  

[00:58:23] Duuude-Ron :

a year,   and that's for fifteen hours.  

[00:58:28] Rich Chelson:

Oh, they're doing it by an hour hour a month, kind of,   kinda like,   Auphonic?  

[00:58:38] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. You get you get a whole lot more than than with Auphonic   because   you can record everything in Riverside.   You can record multiple people in Riverside. You can edit,   right there in Riverside.   And, I mean because I've tried it because it makes a transcript   of your audio.   Okay. It it takes out filler words. It takes Oh, so there's a lot like the script too. So Yeah. And it and it also makes,   transcripts.   It makes,   video clips   with captions. It I mean, there's it it it it does a shitload,   but you only,   for   the $2.88 a year, you get fifteen hours a month.  



[00:59:26] Rich Chelson:

A month. So I saw   I mean and so $2.88 a year. I mean, for us, we,  

[00:59:35] Duuude-Ron :

yeah, we would have to cut our podcast back   Yeah. By one Either two or, you know, a total of two   two and a half hours a week. Right.   But, I mean, it's yeah. It,  

[00:59:49] Rich Chelson:

it's $25   a month. I mean, that's a lot yeah. It's still a little steep.  

[00:59:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is. But, I I mean and and like I said, I've been I've been I've been playing around with it,   and it's it's got some cool shit. I can   you can edit   through the transcript,   and it'll   fix it in in the audio as well.  

[01:00:14] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So what about,   are you able to just use   the phone,   or do we the would everybody need to have, DAWs?  

[01:00:28] Duuude-Ron :

Have what?  

[01:00:29] Rich Chelson:

Digital Yeah. Via workstations.  

[01:00:33] Duuude-Ron :

No. No.   No. You could use phone and and or,   I I mean,   just basically like we do now, the only thing is   is that if y'all use the phone since you're out working most of the time Yeah.   You would need to download the Riverside app to make it easier. And then   now here's here's the one con   that that,   I find. I mean, for me, it's not, You know? Because, you know, my shit stays running constantly.   Right. When we get done recording,   you know, you know, if I hit stop recording on on my end  

[01:01:11] Rich Chelson:

Everybody has to hit stop recording.  

[01:01:13] Duuude-Ron :

No.   No?  

[01:01:15] Rich Chelson:

No. I I thought they'd do the,   they'd do kind of a like a double ender or, in our case, triple ender.  

[01:01:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I guess. Yeah. Because because that's the thing.   You did that, and then you'd have to wait for the upload to finish completing.   Once you did that, then you could shut the app down.   And then and then I could go in and get,   all the files and put them together.  

[01:01:43] Rich Chelson:

Gotcha.  

[01:01:43] Duuude-Ron :

And get show notes, chapter list, have it make,   video clips,   whatever, or audio clips and everything like that. I mean, it's it's   it's  

[01:01:57] Rich Chelson:

it's excellent. So instead of having to chase after just me, it end up having to chase after me, chase after Rich,   Ron, and then make sure that   Ron's phone stayed on all night long so that his stuff would get up No. No. No. No. It no. No. It don't it don't take all night long.   That's the thing. Yeah. I it's not supposed to take all night long, but we No. But Right. Ron Ron's wonderful connection at night.  

[01:02:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, sometimes. But you see you see the thing is okay. Listen.   This thing is recording   or it is uploading   as you're recording.  

[01:02:30] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:02:31] Duuude-Ron :

So so when we get done,   it's damn near fully uploaded.   Oh, I okay. Okay. Okay. It just has to finish uploading. It's not it's not like Zoom where   where, you know, when you It records everything in the cloud.   Yeah. And then and then when Zoom, it it it   waits till you end and close   everything out for it to   do its thing. Now Riverside does it as it goes on.   Okay? And then   and then when we're done,   we push stop, and then we stay on for a few minutes. And on your phones,   it'll pop up, say upload complete. Once you see that,   boom. It's done. And if it's been more in, like, ten minutes,   you know, but that's the thing.  

Right.   And and if you close it out before,   you either have to reopen the app   and let it finish doing its thing   or   the audio doesn't get,  

[01:03:34] Unknown:

doesn't Doesn't get incorporated. Right.  

[01:03:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So   so that's I mean, that   that'd be a little bit of a challenge. I mean, I don't   I don't see   much of a challenge. But  

[01:03:47] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[01:03:48] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, we would, yeah, we would have to make,   you know, a couple changes to,   you know, our our   timeline, time wise.   Yeah. But,   because you have, yeah, fifteen hours,   you know, on a normal four week month, it wouldn't be bad.  

[01:04:09] Rich Chelson:

Well, actually, that should still that should work because  

[01:04:13] Duuude-Ron :

Not on a five week month, though.  

[01:04:16] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. On a five week, I mean, we'd end up having to, you know,   find some way of of  

[01:04:23] Duuude-Ron :

actually, yeah.  

[01:04:25] Rich Chelson:

Because   that would be that would be three that would be five three hour   sessions.  

[01:04:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. But but here's the kicker.   Okay?   When you,   do the edits and and if you do the clips and download the clips and all like that k.   And and, you know, all the smaller stuff,   that takes off of your time as well.  

[01:04:49] Rich Chelson:

Oh, so if you had to go went through and reedited something, then there's another   so that is like, authentic where No. No.  

[01:04:58] Duuude-Ron :

No. If you reedit   the same file   and use the same file or go in and   do more edits and no. It doesn't cost. It's it's when you do,   all the extra stuff.   This is the way it was explained to me because I emailed support   Right.   And everything. And and   when you   when you do it on the same file, it doesn't cost extra like it does with Auphonic  

[01:05:33] Rich Chelson:

k.  

[01:05:34] Duuude-Ron :

And everything.   And plus,   they're, they're a audio enhancer.   Actually, if you ask me, it's a little better than Auphonic.  

[01:05:47] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:05:49] Duuude-Ron :

Because I played around with that. But, yeah, it's it's   there's a lot it can do.   You know? I I mean, I just I just see the issue where where it would be, you know, and and you see that's the thing. You know?   You know, I you know, I've been I've been toying around with maybe starting another podcast, but I've been toying around with that for a while now.   Right. You know, if I did that,   you know,   I'd wanna keep a couple hours for myself.   Yeah.   You   know?   So that's I mean, I've been looking at it. I like it. I like it a lot   because it cuts out the filler words.  

There's a couple features coming down the pipe that,   will, smooth the,   silences   out.   I mean, it'll just flat get rid of them.   And then,   like   on video clips,   they have animation, so you can have two talking babies.  

[01:07:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. Not the talking baby thing.  

[01:07:03] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean, I'm just using that as an example because that's one of them, but   you can use,   you know, for, whatever clip is playing   Right. Of   something or someone speaking,  

[01:07:19] Rich Chelson:

but it'd be your voice. You know what I mean? So I wonder if that's where all those talking babies came from then.   That's from Riverside.  

[01:07:27] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know because,   right now   with, when I log in to Riverside,   it doesn't allow me to do the   the,   animations.   So I'm not sure if that feature is totally out yet,   but   it   it could be. I don't know.   But, yeah, you can do video and or audio   or both or just Or both. No. You know, whatever. But Right. I'm I mean I mean, the, the,   the editing,   you could take   what you do in Audacity, what you do in Auphonic,   and do it all in Riverside.   Yeah.   And and get   show notes,   get transcript,   chapters,   everything.   Okay.   So Okay.   I mean   I mean, I like it, dude. I like it. But   that   because if you you know, as you know as you know, Audacity is free unless you wanna donate to them.  

But,  

[01:08:47] Rich Chelson:

yeah. Well, I do. I I give them,   what is it,   $13,   $14   a   month for eleven hours.  

[01:09:03] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   Audacity?  

[01:09:05] Rich Chelson:

Not Audacity. Auphonic.  

[01:09:07] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, Auphonic. Yeah. I I give,   I wanna say it's,   like, $11   for nine hours.  

[01:09:17] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:09:18] Duuude-Ron :

So and then and then, of course,   every couple, two, three months, I've gotta buy an extra five hours to make it through the month.   Right.   But you know?  

[01:09:34] Rich Chelson:

So   So if y'all would if somebody who's listening would like to help out with that,   that's one way that you could help out. You could help out with doing getting the post processing   stuff done through, through the value for value. And if you wanna know how to do that, if you're on a modern podcast app,   you can,   you will usually find support this show located somewhere on our page,   on the modern podcast app. And, there, you can hit that. It'll actually bring up, PayPal, and you can either do a onetime,   support payment or you can, do a reoccurring support.   So, anyhow, continue.  



[01:10:14] Duuude-Ron :

No. That's fine. But   no. That's that's just what I've,   you know,   you know, found so far with Riverside.   I mean Okay.   I mean, if I did go with Riverside,   you know, you know, what do y'all think about, you know, cutting a showdown?  

[01:10:37] Rich Chelson:

We can. I mean  

[01:10:41] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, what do you think?   Alright. Too, dude.  

[01:10:45] Unknown:

Oh, I know.   And, yeah,   if if we cut it down, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  

[01:10:54] Duuude-Ron :

K. I mean, what   what I'm just hey. I'm just here riding on you guys' coat tails. No. No. Shut up. Shut up. You've been here long you have been here long enough. You are part of the family.   Okay?   You as much got a say in this   as any of us.  

[01:11:14] Unknown:

Well, I you know,   I I agree. And you know what? Whatever is decided, I am   I am 100%   backing it. Now what you guys have just been talking about for the last twenty minutes   went right the fuck over my head. No. It went over the goddamn roof.  

[01:11:38] Rich Chelson:

I messed up. You know, I messed the head completely.  

[01:11:41] Unknown:

Oh my god. It went I couldn't even fucking reach it. It went that fucking far over the head. But you know what? I'm listening to you guys, and you know what? Just enjoying the conversation going, yeah. I don't have a fucking clue as to what they're talking about. Well Not a   remote   clue.  

[01:11:59] Duuude-Ron :

Okay, dude. Let me break this down a   say a little more for you because   this is where this is   Brian understands it, but this is where   you might have a problem for   couple weeks. If we go with Riverside,   you're gonna have to download the Riverside app   and just   I think you can join as a guest with the link or and it'll open up in the app   or just sign up for a free account.   You never have to use it.   And just join   and talk on your phone   in the app. And then when we're done,   after we're done with the podcast   and we hit stop recording,   we have to   kinda keep it open   until it says upload complete.  

And then then you can shut the app down.   Otherwise, I won't get your audio at all.  

[01:12:59] Unknown:

Throughout the whole conversation   or throughout the whole podcast?  

[01:13:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. I if you   yes. If you shut the app down before,   you know,   it it all gets uploaded,   then,   I   I won't get, any of the conversation.  

[01:13:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:13:22] Duuude-Ron :

At least that's what I'm reading.  

[01:13:25] Unknown:

Well, you know what? If you have to give me a step by step   class,   then I guess I'll get a class.  

[01:13:36] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, that that's fine. I I mean,   you know, I'll do that because you see, that's the thing. When when I was looking at this and reading about all this,   you know, I've, you know, I've been I've been I've been actually researching it now for   about the past three, four days.   Just just trying to figure out   exactly   what it entails,   what can and can't we do, and stuff like this.   And   this is as far   I've gotten it down pretty good, but I know there's a few things I'm probably missing   that I'm still working on,   trying to figure out.   But   what I have played with it, it is actually kinda fucking cool.  

Like, all the ums and ahs and stuff like that,   yeah, we can cut all that out   or most of them, like, 90   of them.  

[01:14:34] Unknown:

That'd be good.  

[01:14:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:14:40] Unknown:

Because we do say ums and ahs a lot.  

[01:14:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:14:44] Rich Chelson:

You know, time to time, I would agree.  

[01:14:49] Duuude-Ron :

But no. I I mean yeah.   I don't know. This I I mean,   like I said,   this is what I've   seen so far. I mean, I do like it,   but,   you know,   it does   it would be because right now with Auphonic,   I pay roughly   a 100 and   in a year, about a $168   or so, give or take.   168,   170, somewhere around there. And that's for the monthly recurring credits and then the ones that I buy   have to buy every so often   just to get us through because we like to talk so much.   So this here would be a little bit of a jump with that. Right.  

[01:15:42] Rich Chelson:

Well, I think I might be able to throw   some extra, some extra Skittles your way   to help, take care of the take care of the,   the the fees if that's what you wanted to do. So   well, I mean I mean  

[01:16:00] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, if you do, that's fine. I, you know, I'm not I'm not asking, you know, for that. I I just I just kinda   trying to get everything wrapped in my head as to   because I know with using Zoom   I mean, Zoom's come a long way from   when we've started using it Right.   And everything like that.  

[01:16:22] Rich Chelson:

But,  

[01:16:24] Duuude-Ron :

you know, you said you know, when you went to work for this other company, you was   you couldn't,   figure out how to add me so I could get the files myself.  

[01:16:35] Rich Chelson:

You know? Well, well, I found out you have to end up you'd end up having to do a a paying   you get it do the paid subscription yourself again. So if you were back up to doing the   the $15   a   a month, then   they would allow you to come on and actually   be,   jump in and be the alternative host   Really? Stuff. Yeah.  

[01:17:04] Duuude-Ron :

So so that would be a $180   a year,   which which is about what I was paying in the place when I was paying for Zoom. Oh, yeah. No. The prices haven't gone up.   Well yeah.   But okay. But, see, with Zoom and then with Auphonic   hang on.   Let me do some math. I'm a use my calculator. Oh.  

[01:17:28] Rich Chelson:

I'm that's why I'm using my calculator. Yeah. I was gonna say, save save the brain cells. Don't wanna don't wanna burn a clutch.  

[01:17:35] Unknown:

I was gonna say.   Yeah. If I Why why why are you using a calculator? You can't bend over far enough to count the toes?  

[01:17:43] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hell no. Uh-uh. Okay. I don't dude, I don't bend.  

[01:17:49] Rich Chelson:

No. That the rest of us. He bends over. He's like   Yeah.  

[01:17:55] Unknown:

Yeah. I like to read from us.   If he bends over, he gets stuck. Yeah. Exactly.  

[01:18:02] Duuude-Ron :

And it hurts.   So   so, yeah, if if   if I wanted to pay Zoom again   and then Auphonic, of course, I'm looking at $348.   So   doing Riverside would save me $60 a year. Right.   So and and,   honestly,   I think you get a little bit more   with Riverside   than you do with Zoom and Auphonic.   You know what I mean? Mhmm.  

[01:18:34] Unknown:

They have no fucking clue.   But   but that's me. You guys are   you guys are the whizzes on these.   I'm just, like I said,   just to cheer along for the ride.  

[01:18:49] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Now, Brian, let me ask you this.   Have you,   have you tried to get   Auphonic   to make transcripts   or show notes for you?   Yeah.   Does it work?  

[01:19:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I mean, about as well as Pothome.   Okay. So I mean, the only issue that it that it does and that's why I still just let Pod Home just handle it because that way, hey, we don't have to upload b. You know, it it still is it still doesn't   it still struggles to figure out,   you know,   which one which one's Rich talking, which one's Brian talking, which one's Ron talking. So  

[01:19:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Pod home pod home,  

[01:19:36] Rich Chelson:

sometimes it it, it gets it right, and other times, it totally fucks it up. But, you know It seems like every time I looked at it, it was like, yep. Don't know who you are. I was like, damn it.  

[01:19:48] Duuude-Ron :

No. There's no. There's a a   you know, I've,   I've noticed Potom   does get it right if   if it goes   well, because because I put the intro in, so   that makes you the speaker.   And then normally, I'm on   so I'm the speaker, and dude's the speaker. Normally, POD home picks it up right.   Okay? Oh, okay. And lines everything out. But   if, like,   dude pops on,   like like, if I'm on and then dude pops on or,   like like, that time you and dude were on and I was late coming on. Oh, yeah. Pod home just lost it. I was like Yeah.  

[01:20:33] Rich Chelson:

No. We got people talking.   That's all we  

[01:20:36] Duuude-Ron :

know. Yeah. It, I mean I mean, it and it was like   and then sometimes on the intro,   it it takes part of the intro and says Brian speaking, and then it'll say   either dude or or me is speaking   on the other half of the intro. And I'm like, no. It's like, no. I'm not gonna worry about it. Yeah. You know? I mean, we've been doing this long enough. If people don't know our voices,   you know what? Figure it out.  

[01:21:05] Rich Chelson:

Figure it out. Exactly.  

[01:21:08] Unknown:

I could be real rude with that comment.   Not with the podcast,   but with something else.   Well, I'll just leave it to myself. I'll just keep it to myself.   You'll figure it out here pretty soon.  

[01:21:26] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Yeah. It is it is still kinda early, but   but yeah. No. I just yeah. See, I didn't know I would have to buy into Zoom again, which   I mean, yeah. Zoom is good for what it is. I'm not you know   you know and Zoom has served us well, but I think we're at a point, you know, if we plan on keep doing this podcast,   we kinda need to up our game.  

[01:21:53] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:21:54] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   So   that's why that's why when you mentioned,   Riverside,   I didn't think about it for, you know, couple days, but   then it kept on my mind, and   you fucking   made me kept thinking about it by just mentioning it. And I'm like, well, let me check it out. Alright. Fine.   Yeah. Right. That's that's about exactly what I was saying.   God. God damn. Alright. Fine.   And I actually kinda like it. I really   do. So   so I've got the fourteen day trial   of the pro.   So I've been playing around with it   because I give you a fourteen day trial of   of the one   of the tier.  

It's not the top top tier. The top tier is for business, and that that you have to call and get a quote for.  

[01:22:56] Rich Chelson:

Alright.  

[01:22:58] Duuude-Ron :

But this is the top paid tier   that they show on their website, the $24   a month.   And if you pay monthly, it go it jumps to 29.   So, yeah, it's, yeah, it's smarter to go with the yearly plan.  

[01:23:22] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah, usually, it does.  

[01:23:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   But   I'm open when I get these teeth pulled.   So, oh, no. That's a Wednesday.   Yeah. That Thursday might just be a pain in the ass.  

[01:23:43] Rich Chelson:

A pain in the mouth.  

[01:23:46] Duuude-Ron :

Well yeah. Okay. Touche.   Touche.  

[01:23:50] Unknown:

Well, then we may have   to postpone a week like we did,   when I was down at your place.  

[01:24:03] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean I mean,   I can talk. I mean, y'all can talk. I mean   I mean, yes. I know it's not as much fun as I'm as, you know, if I'm not on as well, but,   you know,   I don't know.   I would I would like to think   that   I would be somewhat okay.  

[01:24:30] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:24:31] Duuude-Ron :

I've never had this done, so I don't know.   You know?   So do you think,   so do you think I'll be able to,   talk the day after I've had nine teeth ripped out my head?  

[01:24:50] Rich Chelson:

No. We'll just have a special guest thing, muffles.   Exactly. Yeah.   Well, when I got all the on butts. That's   that's sure of something.  

[01:25:10] Duuude-Ron :

What did you say, dude?  

[01:25:12] Unknown:

What what Brian just says, does does that remind you of somebody  

[01:25:18] Duuude-Ron :

with the way that you Brown teacher.  

[01:25:20] Unknown:

No.  

[01:25:23] Duuude-Ron :

No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know I I know what you mean.  

[01:25:29] Unknown:

I said you get it eventually.  

[01:25:32] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:25:34] Unknown:

So when I had my wisdom teeth   taken out   Yeah.   The two on the bottom were not growing   upwards.   They're growing sideways   and pushing on the rest of my teeth.  

[01:25:47] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:25:49] Unknown:

When I had my wisdom teeth taken out,   I didn't wanna fucking do shit for a week.   I didn't fucking talk, didn't nothing.   That hurt.  

[01:26:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It wasn't most comfortable. I when I I got mine out, whenever I went into,   OSA school   there when I was playing around as a squid.   And so, yeah,   they allowed me to have one day off,   and then that was it.  

[01:26:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, see I got Well, I got three days off. I got three days off. Oh, wow. You see, the thing is my ass getting knocked out.  

[01:26:30] Rich Chelson:

Well That does help.  

[01:26:31] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. Knocked the fuck out.  

[01:26:34] Unknown:

Okay. So   who's bringing you home?  

[01:26:39] Duuude-Ron :

A new  

[01:26:41] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:26:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I called,   the VA, believe it or not.   If you need a driver and you don't have   someone who can drive you   and I didn't know about this until oh, shit. I think it was earlier this year   or late last year or so. I can't remember. Anyway,   your care team has a social worker that works with the care team. They are with that care team.   And if if you need a ride to an appointment, you know, because   they're gonna knock you out.   You know?   If you need a caregiver,   they have people that'll do that.   The VA pays for it.   And,   like,   because the dentist,   when I went to her,   I'm going to a a care in the community,   okay, doctor.  



[01:27:36] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[01:27:37] Duuude-Ron :

And so   they said that that I would need to be driven there, and then someone would have to drive me home.   So I called I called the social worker with my care team, talked to her, and she scheduled an Uber right then and there.   And it's set for the twenty fifth.   And then,   and then   when I go in there,   I've got another phone number and and name. I'm gonna tell them you call this guy here, and he will call me in Uber to bring me back home.   So,   yeah, the VA,   they,   they've got this in place, and and I didn't know. But, yeah, they just contact Uber, and,   the VA pays Uber to drive you. And if if I needed someone to stay with me   and then watch me when I got home, they would send a caregiver   as well   because the VA has people that do that.  



[01:28:42] Unknown:

Well, there you go.  

[01:28:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I, yeah, I mean,   I gotta say,   I don't know about the other VAs. And if the other VAs ain't ain't running like fucking Biloxi,   you veterans need to step up and start talking to your patient advocates and find out what the fuck   because,   Monday yeah. This is Thursday. Monday, I went to the dentist at the VA in Biloxi. Okay?   Two days later,   I got a phone call   from   from my,   one lady in in the in the VA dentist office.   She set me up with four appointments for my fillings and all that in July and then my exam next year. And then she put the consult in   for   me to see   the, periodontist   in in Uh-huh. In, care in the community.  

I think that was Tuesday. She called me the next day. And then   that lady called me on Wednesday.   The the girl that works in the VA that that   sets up to carry in the community stuff. Right?   Well Yeah.   She called me,   got all the information, and she said, I'm gonna put this consult in right now.   It wasn't ten fucking minutes later.   I got a call from the periodontist   saying,   we wanna set your appointment up for the twenty fifth. Are you good with that?   What time do you want?   I mean, it was that fucking quick. Whereas before,   like, couple years ago,   trying to get care in the community   from the VA,   yeah, it was a crapshoot. And normally, you had to wait, like, six months   if if you even got someone.  

But, apparently,   with all these cuts   that everyone's bitching about,   is cutting through a lot of that bullshit waste and,   you know, wasteful spending,   and they're actually able to hire people   or or have people actually do their jobs. And things are done   Because I was told when a consult is put into care in a community, they have thirty days   to make sure you are seen.   And I guess after thirty days, heads are supposed to roll. I don't know. But,   they didn't fuck around down here. It was literally I talked with the lady   at the VA that deals with the caring community, and ten minutes later, I got a call from that doctor   saying, yo. Let's set this up now.  



[01:31:37] Unknown:

Yep. And you know what that you know what that shows me?  

[01:31:40] Duuude-Ron :

What's that?  

[01:31:42] Unknown:

The the director   of that VA   hospital, whoever it may be,   is   dead up in people's asses.   You either do your job or go find another job.  

[01:31:56] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly. And you see, that's that's why I'm saying if if if   if veterans are not getting that at their VA,   go to the patient advocate.   If you have to, go to the secretary of the VA himself.   Write a fucking email.   His his email is on v a dot gov. Write a fucking email.   Because if you elevate it to Washington DC,   those motherfuckers will get on it,   and they'll start firing head people.   You don't have to, you know,   go to the patient advocate, find out what's going on, let them try it But if if some or if you want, just go straight to the VA secretary.   That motherfucker will will roll some heads   and get shit changed at your VA.  

Yeah. You know? That's the whole thing right there.   Again, like we talked about earlier,   people need to grab their fucking cojones   and stand up and say something.   Right.   Because I because, I mean, down here, oh my god.   As yeah. I've   I've never seen this.   And, I mean, I just love the hell out of it.  

[01:33:14] Unknown:

It's a very well oiled machine.  

[01:33:18] Duuude-Ron :

That it is.   And I think all VA should work like this,   whether it's a hospital, a clinic, or whatever it is.   You know?   Just   need to and I'm not saying scream and yell and cuss and rant and rave. Just go to patient advocates and say, hey. This ain't happening. Fix it.   And then if it don't get fixed, you know what?   Go to Washington, DC.   Put a bug in their ear.  

[01:33:59] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:34:01] Duuude-Ron :

They don't like hearing bad shit because that  

[01:34:04] Rich Chelson:

that'll wind up look bad. Exactly.  

[01:34:07] Duuude-Ron :

That'll wind up being bad press.   So,   I mean, that's that's just that's just, you know,   my thoughts on that subject.  

[01:34:21] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Literally,  

[01:34:23] Duuude-Ron :

it was,   yeah, yesterday. My god dang.   My phone rang, like,   for, like, five or six times in a matter of   an hour and a half.   Wow.   My my phone don't ring that much in a week.   Okay?   I mean, literally,   it don't ring that much in a week, but, like, five or six times.   And I I was just I was floored, man. I was like and one, when when the nurse put in the thing for the Uber,   it wasn't,   well, I had gotten a text message saying   saying that an Uber was scheduled for Wednesday, the twenty fifth at 12:45,   and it wasn't two minutes after that.   Someone from the VA called me and said, hey. Did you get the text we just sent? I said, yeah. Like, two minutes ago.  

It's like I mean, they're just fucked.   The odor's on it. He's like, hey.   Did you get this?   Yeah.   Okay.   If you need anything, here's my name. Here's my number. You call me. I fix it. K. I   it's like, fuck. Cool.   You see,   I like it when shit works like this   because   I've got it on my calendar. I don't have to think about it.   I know it's set.   It's done,   and I'm good.  

[01:35:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:36:00] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. Because I don't have to think.   I like not having to think sometimes.  

[01:36:09] Rich Chelson:

I don't blame you there. It's awful it's awful nice to   to   to not have to think.  

[01:36:16] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   I mean, I still do, but but it gives me time to think about other things,   like, you know, how I'm gonna pick my nose or something.   You know? Exactly.  

[01:36:28] Rich Chelson:

Frees up the bandwidth.   Ex right.  

[01:36:33] Unknown:

And here's something completely off the wall, and we'll and we'll get back to, you know, that.   I was watching a,   YouTube video. Just scrolling through   or it might have been Facebook shit. I don't remember.   This dude   on a the fucking   door camera,   you know,   those little fucking what the fuck they called?  

[01:36:58] Rich Chelson:

Rings. Yeah. Yeah. The ring doorbell.  

[01:37:01] Unknown:

There you go. It it could have been that. Anyway,   this is a   I don't know if it was   I think it was an Amazon   driver dropping off a package.   He drops off the package,   takes a picture of it,   then takes his hand in his pants   and digs in his ass,   and then   smells it and puts his fucking finger in his mouth   and says, ugh.   I'm like,   are you   really?   Wow.   You must have That's so   God. You you talk about fucking   needing a helmet special?   Wow. I bet you those two fucking brain cells that he had   were just   scrapping with each other   with that thought.  

It's like   and then you're at somebody's residence   and not even thinking that they might have a fucking Ring camera.  

[01:38:12] Duuude-Ron :

You had an itch, man.  

[01:38:15] Unknown:

And that's great. If you have an itch, scratch it.   Don't have problem. I had an itch today. I scratched it. But I didn't fucking put my hand in my mouth.   That's just like,   wow.   And I bet you   he is bred   offspring   because he was an older guy. I mean, like, our age.  

[01:38:44] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my gosh.  

[01:38:46] Rich Chelson:

Yes.   Well, then you ought to know that you if you're gonna if you're gonna scratch your butt, then you need to go ahead and make sure you get some of those blue shop towels,   and you carry those in your truck with you.   And when your butt itches, you grab a square of that. You and you fold it up. You scratch your butt with it   because it's just rough enough that it actually does a really good job of scratching the old butthole.   And then when you're done, you just wad it up all the way. You don't have to worry about having a stinky finger at all.   That's a tough travel tip right there, by God.  



[01:39:27] Unknown:

By God. By God.   No. I'm just going yeah. I'm just going digging my ass and then fucking put it in my mouth.  

[01:39:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, you don't even know. You might be one of those one of those folks that  

[01:39:44] Unknown:

is weird and kinky that way.  

[01:39:48] Rich Chelson:

Well, they can fucking have that. He he may enjoy two girls in a cup.   So   don't look that up if you have you don't know what I'm talking about. Do not look it up. You don't wanna know.   Remain ignorant.   Just remain ignorant.   Okay. And by the time this and  

[01:40:11] Unknown:

by the time this conversation is done or this podcast is done, I probably will have forgotten what the fuck phrase it was that you even said.  

[01:40:20] Rich Chelson:

You   know? That we're gonna go we talk along, and all of a sudden you can hear it wrong. What the fuck? Oh my god. Oh, Jesus Christ. What the hell?  

[01:40:32] Unknown:

You know, right now, I don't even remember what the fuck you do what it's called. Yeah. Yeah. You don't wanna know. Ain't good. I don't wanna know. Okay. That's good.   You know what? I'll probably be able to sleep better tonight then. I'm sure. You you will. You absolutely will. Alright.   Well, as long as I can get, well,   a few hours of good sleep, that's always that's always good because,   you know,   I'm, like, about   eight years behind in sleep before I even get to the beauty sleep. Yeah. I'm old. 12  

[01:41:05] Rich Chelson:

last night. How'd you go? Eight years. We got caught up with some last night.  

[01:41:11] Unknown:

Okay. So twelve. Whatever. You know? I'm still years behind on regular sleep to get to beauty sleep. So at this point in my life, being 57 years old, I ain't gonna worry about it anymore because   this face ain't getting any fucking   prettier.   That's for damn sure.   And, yes, ugly goes all the way to the skull.  

[01:41:40] Rich Chelson:

And Oh, goodness.   Well, we ain't gonna support you on that one. So, yeah, we're just gonna let you, just just keep keep on holding on to that one for sure. Yeah. That's that's that's all you, dude.   Oh, what was the damn thing? I was gonna  

[01:42:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh. I don't know. What was it? Oh, shit. What was I gonna look up?  

[01:42:07] Unknown:

When I got to work, I had a couple real good talking points   for tonight's podcast,   but I think I left them in fucking Abilene.   Because   when I left there,   the whole fucking drive back, I was trying to figure out what the hell my   I I mean, they were really good talking points. I could not for the life of me, and I still can't remember what the fuck they were.  

[01:42:33] Rich Chelson:

So   Yep. That's why you pay a notebook.  

[01:42:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And and   that's why I freaking made a list today.   Well,   I was actually starting it somewhat last night while we was on a on on our Wednesday night call.   And then Uh-huh. I was finishing it today,   because I I knew with with this much that, yeah, I was not gonna,   I was not gonna remember everything.   Now   there's a movie. It's on well, it's on Hulu, actually. So if you have Hulu,   you can check it out or Disney plus.   You can check it out.   It's about the rise of Blackberry.   And it   yeah. It's an actual movie of of   how Blackberry got started, the phone.  

And at one time,   they had a 45%  

[01:43:34] Rich Chelson:

market share. Yeah. No. They had most I mean, there was a reason why they were called crackberries.  

[01:43:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And   now they have 0%. They're out.  

[01:43:44] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[01:43:46] Duuude-Ron :

But yeah. No. It's it's and I I gotta say is, honestly, it's it's   it's a fairly good movie. They were made in I not Iowa,   Canada,   Waterloo.   Waterloo, Canada.  

[01:44:02] Unknown:

Yep. You know what I had? And the military gave me a Blackberry,   and that was when I was rear attachment for sergeant. You know what I did with that Blackberry?   What? Stuck it in my desk.   Stuck it in my desk, and it stayed there.   Never once   turned it on and used it.   Well, probably probably because I fucking didn't know how, but, you know,   it was just something that   and now it's totally  

[01:44:41] Duuude-Ron :

obsolete.   Yep.  

[01:44:45] Unknown:

That's like   yeah.   Do you remember when   do you remember when the razors came out? The razor followed? Oh, yeah.  

[01:44:56] Duuude-Ron :

Motorola Razors. Yep. Yeah. Guess what? They're coming back out.   Oh, they're already the flip phones are already back out. Yeah. I know. I've been say I've been seeing commercials for the new razor.   Hello, Moto.   Yeah.  

[01:45:14] Unknown:

I didn't didn't own one then and   won't own one now.  

[01:45:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Probably something breaking real quick. I'm gonna break in on y'all here.   So what y'all, y'all heard, Israel permanently has launched preemptive strikes on Iran?   Excuse  

[01:45:34] Duuude-Ron :

me. I have not heard that.  

[01:45:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   I was kinda just looking for something to talk about.   Damn. There's something to talk about.   Israel decided to walk up and punch   punch out rain in the nose.  

[01:45:50] Duuude-Ron :

Once about damn time, I Iran's been fucking with,   Israel for how long?  

[01:45:57] Rich Chelson:

Since the forties or not forties. Yeah. Yeah. The end of the forties. So when did Israel state was it '48?  

[01:46:08] Duuude-Ron :

Something like that. But yeah. No. Israel and Iran,   they ain't really '48. Yeah.  

[01:46:17] Unknown:

So did they   actually so did they actually send   missiles over to Iran?  

[01:46:23] Rich Chelson:

Oh, let's see here. Let me go ahead and try pull it all the way up. Hang on. Let's see. Israeli Air Force  

[01:46:30] Duuude-Ron :

conducted a strike in Iran on Thursday according to   two sources with knowledge of the operation.   Yeah. It is not yet clear what Israel is targeting.  

[01:46:41] Rich Chelson:

So   Yeah. And, Daily Mail says Israel has launched preemptive strikes, gives Iran, and a state and   a state of emergency has been declared in the Jewish state. Israel prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in an address on YouTube that the attacks will continue for as many days as it takes to remove this threat.   Netanyahu said the Israel's targeted, Iran's main,   enrichment facility and   Natanz   and the country's ballistic missile program as well as top nuclear scientists and officials.   He alleged that the Iran is working on a new plan to destroy Israel after its old plan. Its   circle of proxies failed. He called for an intolerable threat that it must be stopped.  

Defense minister,   Israel Katz said they are preparing   for a response by the Iranians   after the strike. So   yeah, and there's I mean, it it kinda keeps going on. Israel's,   strength   yeah. See. No. They got a punch for for punch between Israel and, Iran. So defense budget,   Israel's got 24,400,000,000.0,   while Iran's only got 9,950,000,000.00.   Active personnel,   Iran's actually got more active p   people. They've got 610,000   people in the in,   in the military, while Israel only has a 170,000,   reserve personnel.   Israel's actually got more,   465   to Iran's 350   465,000   to Iran's 350,000.  



[01:48:33] Unknown:

Parliament The number in folders?  

[01:48:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Parliamentary forces, which I don't know what that exactly is.  

[01:48:41] Duuude-Ron :

Total aircraft for the peace.  

[01:48:43] Rich Chelson:

That's that's  

[01:48:45] Duuude-Ron :

just that's just government,   military, which which they can be pressed into service because   Israel   everyone in Israel, when you turn 18, you have to serve two years minimum. Right. Yeah. But still, when it comes to parliamentary forces,  

[01:49:02] Rich Chelson:

Iran's got 220,000   while,   Israel's only got 35,000.  

[01:49:08] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. But,   the thing is is,   I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying Iran are wussies,   but,   Israel   trains constantly.   And and even even their   even their soldiers   that have already served and gotten out can be recalled   but that's   literally a stroke of a pen.   Yeah. So, I mean, I mean, Israel can beef its forces up   more so than than Iran can, I think?   I might be wrong on that,   but Israel is not a state to mess with. And if Israel attacks you, you really screwed up. Yeah. No. Not that I agree. I mean, Israel was always punched above their weight class.  

[01:49:57] Rich Chelson:

Always.   And,   and stuff. So, I mean, it's just   can they can they   hold   Iran back? I don't think so. I I think they can hold a lot of our a whole lot of Iran back. But the only thing Iran's gonna really be able to do that'll cause some problems, look it through that.   Israel has no,   no mining,   miners,   for,   for boats   in their navy, while Iran's got, like, 19 or 20 or something like that, I think. Let me double check that. Yeah. Yeah. That's true because Iran has the navy. But you see, that's where that's where we back up. Oh, never mind. They've got one.   Oh, they got one. Okay. They they've got one. Israel has none.  

See,   There are more   they've got more corvettes.   Israel's got seven corvettes to,   Iran's three.   Iran's got seven frigates, while,   Israel has none.   Iran actually has more subs   with 19 subs versus,   Israel's five.   Their total fleet strength is,   is Israel 67   and Iran's a 101.   And then they kinda talk going   Israel wins air force wise.   Ground force wise, though, actually, Iran's got more.  

[01:51:39] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that okay. It might be true, but,   you know, I mean I mean, look at the scrapes Israel's been in. Oh, yeah. They are ruthless, man. I mean Yep. Well, yeah. I mean, hell, they back when they started, back in shortly after 1948.  

[01:51:56] Rich Chelson:

Who was it? It was,   Jordan.   There was, like, five or six,   countries that decided, no. No. We're gonna take some of y'all's land. We think y'all got too much land, and they attacked.   And they well, actually, what they did because Palestinians were throwing throwing a shit bit back then too. Oh. Now I don't know that. Cool. Here you go. Here is some land.   You have can have your own land. And because the Palestinians are the red headed stepchildren of the Arab countries,   the countries were like, okay. Well, we're gonna take that. Jordan went off and was like, yeah. We're gonna take that land from the Palestinians.   I want to take some of Israel's. And Israel's like going, no. Fuck you.  

And so they pushed back Egypt,   Jordan,   I think Lebanon, or whoever it was. There's, like, four or five countries all at once just all of a sudden get pushed in. And they were like, fuck you. Pushed them back. Took all the land that they had given Palestine   back   plus some. So they actually ended up growing   their size after everybody else attacked.   And so and so they no. Yeah. I agree. Powell Israel can will knock you dick in the dirt if you ain't careful.  

[01:53:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They will. And and that see, that's the thing in Israel.   They won't stop fighting till the last person's dead.   Right. That's yeah. I mean, that's that's their mentality. You know? And a lot of people slam Israel for that, but, you know, look at the size of the country. Israel is not a big country.  

[01:53:33] Unknown:

Nope.   And and Does Israel does does Israel share a border with Iran?  

[01:53:40] Rich Chelson:

Let me pull it up. I can't tell you right off,   right off the bat. I don't think so.  

[01:53:46] Duuude-Ron :

I think I think there's one little country between Iran and Israel.  

[01:53:53] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Let's see here.   Alright. Here we go. Israel.  

[01:54:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Iraq.  

[01:54:03] Rich Chelson:

Alright. Well, I don't know. Syria.  

[01:54:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Still Iraq  

[01:54:09] Rich Chelson:

is Okay. There's Syria,   Jordan.   So Yeah. That's,   that's Saudi Arabia.  

[01:54:19] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. No. Israel is just to the left, West of Jordan.   So Yeah.   So yeah.   Israel, yeah, it's got two borders. Jordan,  

[01:54:29] Rich Chelson:

well, it's got two it's got, it's got Egypt.   It's got Egypt.   Well, that's Saudi Arabia. South.   Jordan,   Lebanon,   and Iran is in between Jordan's in between Iran and Israel.   Well Or Iraq and Israel. Well, Iran  

[01:54:52] Duuude-Ron :

Iran is to the East of Iraq. Yeah.   Yeah. You got Jordan and Iraq between Iran and Israel.   Yep.  

[01:55:01] Unknown:

So Israel is is sending   rockets   over   Iraq   into Iran.  

[01:55:09] Duuude-Ron :

They probably use their fighters.   I don't know if they use rockets or not.  

[01:55:16] Rich Chelson:

Oh. I don't think Jordan really has the has the ability to to   other than just say, hey. Stop using our airspace. We made it, man.  

[01:55:29] Duuude-Ron :

So  

[01:55:30] Unknown:

Yeah. We might   okay. Well  

[01:55:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Israel Israel, they   say that's the thing. You know, a lot of people   you know, when when the media tries to throw Israel under the bus,   you know,   people over here,   they don't they just listen to the talking heads. They don't do their own   research, but Israel does not provoke   a war, a fight.   They finish them.   Israel has always waited until someone has caused problems,   and then they're like, alright. We done.   Yeah. You know?  

[01:56:10] Rich Chelson:

Well,   I mean,   when it comes to unleashing unleashing their full military might, yeah, I would agree in the past that that's what they've done.   But now they've they've gone through and and   done, done stuff to   Iran's   nuclear program. They've been doing that for   that I I remember and paid attention to since   since, basically,   turn of the, turn of the century.   And I've probably been doing it longer than that. It's just that that's where I my awareness   of them talking about, like,   them screwing around with the, with the centrifuges   and and knocking them off calibration just   little increments at a time so that they   couldn't, couldn't make the proper type of, uranium.  



[01:57:04] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that I mean I mean, that just goes along in every country. I mean Yeah. Yeah. Every country   steps in, you know, whether it's Russia, Ukraine,   Us, and whoever. I mean,   everyone   kinda goes in quietly and, you know, messes with stuff to try and set them back. I mean, that's not but but an outright attack?   Now   I I'm not sure what the reason is   because I haven't read anything. I'm I might have to do some looking in because, yeah, this is  

[01:57:36] Rich Chelson:

a a Well, I've heard people talking that Iran was actually   had actually   taken the, the money that Biden had given them   and, had fired up their,   their nuclear program even   even harder than what they did before.   And we're getting   I don't know how they come up with two weeks, but that's   they've always been touting two weeks. It's two weeks from a bomb.   Are you sure about that?  

[01:58:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's been how well?  

[01:58:11] Rich Chelson:

I've I've been hearing them talk about two weeks two weeks away from having a having their own nuclear,   weapons   for, hell, twenty, thirty years now.  

[01:58:22] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[01:58:25] Unknown:

And guess what? It's just two weeks away?  

[01:58:30] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. Kinda like global warming. We've got twelve years left.   And that was twenty years ago. That was I was gonna say that was back in the eighties. They were saying twelve years left.  

[01:58:41] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:58:43] Unknown:

You know? And   it's funny that   all the   politicians   are fucking   up and well,   certain politicians are up in arms about our carbon footprint.   Okay.   There's more carbon.   I just fucking breathe out.   You know? Are you gonna kill everybody because we're, you know,  

[01:59:12] Rich Chelson:

gotta I'm gonna kill everybody because they're stop because they're trying to decrease the carbon dioxide levels.   The plants need the carbon dioxide to be able to produce oxygen.  

[01:59:23] Unknown:

Thank you.   And if we're gonna deplete the fucking carbon footprint,   you know, we need to get who   what   makes the biggest   carbon footprint?  

[01:59:39] Rich Chelson:

I know that   termites   termite mound a single termite mound actually produces more carbon dioxide in a single day   than man has   since the beginning   of the industrial revolution. And if I'm remembering that,   a   volcano belches out more carbon   in a single burp   than man has produced   in all of all of time.  

[02:00:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Look. Oh, why ain't the volcano going now?  

[02:00:11] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.   Yeah. That's just a perpetual part right there.  

[02:00:15] Unknown:

Yeah. And, well, and what makes the most carbon is fucking  

[02:00:21] Rich Chelson:

cow farts.   No. That's methane.  

[02:00:24] Unknown:

Do what? Oh, methane. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. It's methane.   Okay. I got you. You're right. I'm an idiot.   Like I said, I'm fucking stupid.  

[02:00:36] Rich Chelson:

No. You ain't.  

[02:00:39] Unknown:

But still, you know,   I breathe out,   and then the trees breathe in.   Mhmm. The trees the trees breathe out,  

[02:00:48] Rich Chelson:

I breathe in. You know? I'm a firm believer that I don't think God ever made   would purposely make a planet that we could destroy.  

[02:01:00] Duuude-Ron :

You know,   funny you should bring that up because I I've I've read different articles here in just in the recent past   that you know, look at Fukushima.   You know,   all all that that got swept into the sea and everything like that. Mhmm. And at you know, you had all that trash, that big oily trash cloud in the sea,   and they said it was coming towards The US and all like this. Yeah. We were gonna be all the fish are now irradiated.  

[02:01:27] Rich Chelson:

We can't eat ants, eat seafood ever again because we're all gonna be radioactive.  

[02:01:34] Duuude-Ron :

And and   you don't hear nothing about it anymore because And what?  

[02:01:39] Unknown:

The Earth is  

[02:01:41] Rich Chelson:

Fukushima, the, the The nuclear reactor,   nuclear powered,   reactor over in Japan that   went,   super, that went not super critical, but went into full meltdown.  

[02:01:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay. Okay. I remember that one. Tsunami. But yeah. And see all that stuff that that went in the ocean,   well, guess what?   I'm not saying it all got totally removed, but   it didn't hit The US.   So, you know, you you you You're right. Yeah. State of The United States.   You know, I don't think   God would have made a planet   that we could destroy even though   even though we've been trying our damnedest. And, yes, we do need to   try and do better to keep it clean and healthy for us.   Okay? But   everything that's happened to the world,   you okay. Look at all the nuclear tests back in the forties and fifties   and in the thirties when they was making the atomic bomb for Yeah.  

Nagasaki and all like that, you know, out in New Mexico or Nevada or, you know, all that. Uh-huh. It's like it's like the Earth   heals itself.  

[02:02:52] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:02:53] Duuude-Ron :

Nobody pays attention to that.   You ought to look at that. You know?   We might have a way to fix a lot of diseases   if we would pay attention and adapt them instead of forcing pills down everybody. Right. Well and look at, the Deepwater Horizon.   Does that Oh, yeah. There you go. There's another one. Everybody was all I mean,  

[02:03:16] Rich Chelson:

the environmentalists, they were standing there on the dams,   Gulf Of Mexico.   They were rubbing their hands together. They were waiting for those damn power balls and the oil slick to come out come to shore and cause a environmental disaster.   Never happened.  

[02:03:34] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. Never happened. And  

[02:03:36] Rich Chelson:

the thing that no one wants to to know and no one wants to admit and wants to understand   is   the ocean   consumes that oil.   It will take take that oil and it breaks it down into usable parts. There's more oil that seeps up from the floor of the oceans   than we, produce   around the world   in a day.  

[02:04:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   I believe that.   I can believe that.  

[02:04:08] Rich Chelson:

And why do we not ever see it? Because the ocean knows how to take care of the oil that seeps up.   So, yeah, we have a big old blowout, and, yeah, we had a crap ton of blow. It can't we lost. I mean but at the same time,   oil is not a fossil fuel.   You can't tell me that all that that black stuff is nothing more than fossil soup.   It's not.   No. It is a fluid that is created by the Earth.   How?   Again, I don't know the dynamics to it.  

[02:04:46] Unknown:

Well, it's well, oil is created by sediment   of plants   No. Under pressure.  

[02:04:56] Rich Chelson:

Okay. That's what a lot of people thought. But  

[02:04:59] Unknown:

It's not dinosaur   dinosaur flesh that fucking turned into oil.  

[02:05:05] Rich Chelson:

But, again, it's but the it doesn't it still doesn't   make sense. Why did everybody why did so many of the   plants and animals and the fossils and the not fossils and the, and all that?   Why they die die out in the center of   middle of the area?   What made them fall go up and die in Saudi Arabia and The Middle East?   What made them die specifically in Venezuela?   Why is there so much in the ocean?   Well,   I think it's I don't think it's so much an a byproduct   of dead creatures, dead   dead   dead animals and and long past plants and things like that. I think it's just a I think oil   is just oil.  

I think it's just somehow it's however way it's created,   it's created, you know,   by the Earth   because we were supposed to have hit peak oil back in the eighties.   Right. And we keep finding more and more and more of it.  

[02:06:21] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But   you you have to think, you know, like like Ron was saying with the, you know, the dinosaurs and the plants and all like that, all the old stuff.   You know? Like, I mean, how are diamonds made?   It's   many years of pressure and rock and shifting   and other plates and everything like that. And Yeah. You know? So, I mean, I don't know.   You know?  

[02:06:47] Rich Chelson:

Well, a diamond is just And that might be what coal is. Coal may just be oil that has dried out.  

[02:06:54] Duuude-Ron :

That could be. Yeah.  

[02:06:56] Unknown:

Right. I could believe that.  

[02:06:58] Rich Chelson:

No. We've got everybody who's listening to us. We've got I'm sure we've got some some scientist who's an expert in this going, nope. My god. How could you be so stupid?   Well, we're we're idiots. We're truck drivers.   But at the same time, it's what we it it   we keep getting more and more oil.  

[02:07:17] Duuude-Ron :

So Exactly. We keep finding more. Like like, what about all the oil in Utah, Wyoming, and and and the Northwestern   Tip of Colorado?   You know, that hasn't been touched.   What about, you know, all these other places just in The US?   There's enough oil there to power us for the next   couple hundred years.   But, oh, no. We can't touch that. Oh, we have to frack it. Oh my god. Oh, no. We're gonna cause,   you know,  

[02:07:47] Rich Chelson:

devastation. Blaming,   blaming,   spaucets.  

[02:07:51] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah.   No.   Yeah. It's it's yeah. It's crazy.   It is just crazy the way people do.   And a lot of people fall for this shit.  

[02:08:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   because it's it's a nice   nice   emotional response.   People are done. People are easier to to manipulate when they are   reacting to something.  

[02:08:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. That is true. And and, see, that's the thing. If if, if a people would learn how to react   in a proper way to   things,   we   we would not be as anxious as we are.   You know? Oh, yeah.  

[02:08:43] Rich Chelson:

Because yeah. We were just,   we were   able to stop   and apply   some some actual thought to,   to a circumstance before   just running with what the, what our initial,   line of thought was,   we would have a lot more, we'd have a lot better thought. We wouldn't have crap like the, you know, like the Patriot Act. That was a that was a reactionary   Yeah. Right. Bill.  

[02:09:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh, yeah. Exactly.   But and and, see, that's the thing. We can,   you you know, we can get to that point, but   each person has to   find it within themselves   to   argue with what they've been,   I say, brainwashed with. We've all been brainwashed to a point Yeah. You know, with our upbringing and and the way life's gone for us now.   We can all get to that one point   and and to where that you know, instead of just using a knee jerk reaction, we actually   think about things,   and we can react   differently   and have different thoughts,   we could get better. But you have to want it. You yourself have to want it   and move towards it. No one can do it for you.  

That's my 2¢ for the therapy tonight.  

[02:10:15] Unknown:

You know, because  

[02:10:18] Rich Chelson:

sheeple,  

[02:10:20] Unknown:

All they wanna be is is   spoon fed   bullshit information   and go from there.  

[02:10:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, because it's easier for them. They don't have to think about it.  

[02:10:33] Unknown:

And they don't have to research anything, and they don't have to,   you know  

[02:10:39] Duuude-Ron :

But see, this is the thing. You do have to research stuff. Otherwise,   you're led by the nose.   That's why   that's why I look things up. You know? I'm not saying anyone's lying to me, but,   you know,   I'm gonna dive in and look   at different things   and, you know, figure it out myself because I don't like jumping on the bandwagon.  

[02:11:07] Unknown:

No. You like jumping on the turnip truck.  

[02:11:10] Duuude-Ron :

That that I do. I like tire notes.  

[02:11:15] Unknown:

Or or is it the yam wagon?  

[02:11:20] Duuude-Ron :

I am what I am.   And that's what I am.   Okay.   And I do like yams, to be honest with you,   with a little brown sugar and marshmallows on top. Marshmallows on top? Oh, hell yeah. Oh god. Guess what, guys? Y'all Oh.   Y'all gotta go to the store and look for this. Oh my god. I had I had some Evan the other night. Oh my lord. It was great.   You need to get you some pistachio   pudding.   Oh my god.   I made I made a thing up. Pistachio pudding.   Get you. Now   if you make it, don't get one box because that's just gonna piss you off. You get two boxes,   and   it takes four cups of milk, which is a quart. So get you a quart of milk.  

Mix all that up together   and get it to where it's kinda soft set and then throw it in the fridge. About ten minutes later, dig it out. I ate the whole damn thing in one sitting. Oh my god.   I love pistachio pudding.   Yeah.   I also had some nana nana pudding at   wafers the other night too.  

[02:12:34] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god. Now it's it. Had  

[02:12:37] Unknown:

in a while. Some good nana pudding. Was it was it as good as,   the King's   buffet?  

[02:12:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I made it.  

[02:12:51] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:12:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I had gotten because,   I don't know. It says,   it's like two, three weeks ago.   I I was I was grocery shopping in the store,   and   I just happened to wind up at the puddin' aisle. And I was and I just locked on to some chocolate pudding   and some nana pudding, and I'm like, oh my god. I'm just I'm just standing there just mouth drooling, and I was like, yeah. I grabbed me some. I didn't grab enough. So,   yeah, I had to go back and get more, and that's that's when I found a pistachio pudding. But and then I got,   two quarts of milk,   two separate quarts because   one quart is four cups.  

So so if you make two boxes, it takes one quart.   But if you make four boxes, which makes a lot,   it'll take a half gallon.   But   and you just mix it up and then throw it in the fridge and let it set up and   oh my god.   Yeah,   baby.   So yeah. And and I I still got some chocolate pudding too.   I got I got chocolate pudding yet to make.   I haven't made it yet.   And   I and I have some more nana pudding I can make.  

[02:14:15] Unknown:

You and nana pudding.  

[02:14:17] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, man. I love nana nana pudding with Nilla wafers.   Oh my god.   That is like,   oh, I'm getting excited over that. I I get excited over that shit, man.  

[02:14:30] Rich Chelson:

Just don't have a package here. It's a double banana.  

[02:14:33] Duuude-Ron :

It it's not just Nanna Nanna pudding. It's Nanna Nanna pudding. It's Nanna Nanna Nanna pudding with Nanna Nanna Nanna pudding with Nanna Nanna Wafer, man. Oh my god.   It's just it's   oh,   I might have to make some tonight after we get off.   I don't know. We'll see.   I might wait till tomorrow to do it because   I know me. I'm   because I got two boxes of nana pudding left.   And if I make nana nana pudding with the other wafers,   I'm a eat that whole thing in one sitting.   And then I'll be out of nana nana pudding, and that's just rude.   I might go to the store.  

So I might hold off till I go to the store so I got extra nana pudding  

[02:15:23] Rich Chelson:

nana pudding, and I can get her done. I swear.  

[02:15:30] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:15:31] Unknown:

Yeah. About every about every word. You're right. You do. Yep.  

[02:15:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I think it'll be an interesting little post here,   to roll into.   What? I'm talking about,   well, it's a it's a,   daily mail,   article, but it's,   they they set it up as a bit click bait baity because they they stuck it behind their their, mail mail plus   subscription.   But,   but why are, why mysterious group of rural Americans are nine times less likely to some to suffer from the country's biggest killers.  

[02:16:16] Duuude-Ron :

Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Say that again. I didn't hear all that. Why?  

[02:16:20] Rich Chelson:

A mysterious group of rural Americans   are nine times less less   likely to suffer from the country's biggest killers. So who do you think they're talking about?  

[02:16:36] Duuude-Ron :

What? The killers or the   or the people?   People.   The poor people?  

[02:16:44] Rich Chelson:

Nope. Not quite.  

[02:16:46] Unknown:

Amish?  

[02:16:47] Rich Chelson:

The Amish. Exactly. Yeah. They're they're talking about the Amish.   Okay. So they're talking about, like, if a typical American may, struggle with the image of, Amish life with no smartphones, TVs, cars, computers, or even basic like often even basic electricity in the house. But that's not the only thing the Amish live without. Members are much less likely to suffer from chronic diseases,   linked to modern lifestyles.   There are nine times less likely to be obese, which in turn lowers the risk of the country's biggest killers like cancer, heart diseases, and dementia.   And it's and they can actually kinda break into,   what it is. They lead an agrarian lifestyle with everyone from the children to the elders working together in the fields or small businesses, kitchens, and homes often without modern machinery. So they're they're all doing it hard. So they're constantly active,   and they eat from their own land.  

Permanent foods are a staple. Their biggest meal is at   noon, not in the evening.   Amish folks,   stick to a traditional food prep method.   They don't have any screen time,   and they,   minimal exposure to toxins.   Tobacco and alcohol use is extremely rare.   Their sleep aligns with their nature, with the natural clock, and the honest people value strong community bonds, which, I mean, all that makes sense. It's stuff that we all know we need to be doing. We need to be getting up when we need to get up, going to bed when we're supposed to go to bed.   And,   going to bed when we're supposed to go to bed is when when it gets dark outside, you pretty much need to be going to hit the hay then.  

Yeah. And and,   get that   when the chickens get up  

[02:18:37] Duuude-Ron :

And eating real food, not Yeah. Not processed.  

[02:18:44] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   The closest thing processed is your fermented foods, like your sauerkrauts and   and,  

[02:18:51] Duuude-Ron :

pickled vegetables and yogurts and things like that. I've been I've been to a few Amish stores and bought groceries because they're a lot cheaper. They get they get the,   the stuff that's, like, almost out of date or whatnot.  

[02:19:06] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[02:19:07] Duuude-Ron :

You know, stuff like that, and and they'll sell it to, you know, their own people.   But you can go in   to those stores and buy the same thing. And, I mean, they do have some things that are boxed, but, like, you know, like cereal   or whatnot. So they do eat some cereal, but   most of their stuff is all   grown in a garden,   slaughtered. Mhmm.   You know? And it's it's not it's not full of all this shit   that   the food we have in our stores that we buy  

[02:19:40] Unknown:

nowadays That you that you can't pronounce that you cannot pronounce   90%   of the fucking   ingredients that are in said  

[02:19:52] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And, I mean, they,   you know, they still get, like, milk, you know, that's in a jug, but a lot of them do have their own dairy cows.  

[02:20:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They have And they they actually drink, yeah, drink fresh raw milk.  

[02:20:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And I know, oh my god. People are probably going, oh my god. We gotta stop that. No. You ain't gonna stop that because No. No. It's not  

[02:20:12] Rich Chelson:

it's not the people. It's the government that goes, I don't think you're gonna be doing that.   Right. Right. Because then then you're you're   you're circumventing   Yeah. For how it work that that,   big milk actually has done to   Yeah. Ensure you drink their product. Yeah. No. And and what percentage  

[02:20:36] Unknown:

of the population   in The United States   is Amish.  

[02:20:43] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, like   zero point something. I'm I'm a look that one up.  

[02:20:48] Unknown:

Yeah. Point zero zero something.   And the government has to get their fingers in every fucking thing.   You know?   No. You don't.   If they don't wanna fucking   if they wanna be left alone,   then leave them alone.   But, you know   and, yeah, again,   when they   become young adults and they do their,   what is it, Young Springer?  

[02:21:26] Duuude-Ron :

Young's different. Whatever. Sex call it different names.  

[02:21:30] Unknown:

Right. You know? But   are they happier than what we are with all these fucking devices?   Probably so.  

[02:21:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. The   the, in 2024,   the Amish population made up approximately   point 12%   of the total US population in 2024.   It's saying in,   as of June 24, as of year ago,   the,   population is 400,910,   and that's in America in North America.   Not not just America, that's North America.   So   that'll include Canada too   because America is not North America.   We are The United States Of America.   Right.   And and let me ask you all this. Okay?   What do the Amish call us   us?  

[02:22:40] Rich Chelson:

How the numbers.  

[02:22:43] Unknown:

The heathens?  

[02:22:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I was just I was guessing. I I I went I went children of the corn.   Nothing I could come up with.  

[02:22:52] Duuude-Ron :

They call us English.   They call they call anyone   who isn't Amish,   they're known as English.   And the reason I know this is because when I was locating,   this Amish,   farmer   called for locates, which was really rare because Amish normally doesn't do that. Yeah. But, they called for locates, and I wound up talking with him and everything. Real nice guy. I mean, real cool guy. But, yeah. He   yeah.   People who are not Amish are called English.   And that, I guess, that dates back from when,   you know,   long before we were ever born.   But that's what that's what he did. Because  

[02:23:46] Unknown:

where did and I have no clue.   What countries did the Amish come from?  

[02:23:54] Duuude-Ron :

A lot of them were They were German.   German and Dutch.   Yeah.   Because the ones in Iowa, most of them are Pennsylvania Dutch.   Some are Germans.   So, yeah, it depends.   And they still speak those languages.   Mhmm. Oh, yeah. Yep. English is a language to them.  

[02:24:16] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:24:17] Duuude-Ron :

So   but it says here that that,   the population   of the Amish,   approximately   doubles roughly every twenty years.  

[02:24:31] Unknown:

No kidding.  

[02:24:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:24:37] Unknown:

Yep.   Well and I could partially understand that because people getting tired of the fucking rat race.  

[02:24:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:24:46] Unknown:

You know,   go and seek a simpler   life.  

[02:24:52] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But you see the   yeah. Like, that sound like Brian said. Yeah. They don't have TV. They don't have running lights. They have propane lights.   They have, wood furnace or wood stoves   or propane stoves.   They rip all the plumbing   out of a house. If they buy a house, all the plumbing comes out. All the electrice,   the electrical wires come out.   They do not.   They will not leave it in the house. They will take it out,   and that's how they live.   Yep. Opaque lights, candle lights,   stuff like that.   Yeah. There's a lot of up in Iowa   and Northern Missouri,   and   I never had a problem with them. I always got a lot of  

[02:25:44] Rich Chelson:

No. No. They just they normally don't,   they don't normally bother anybody.   Nope. They don't. They just live their life But you piss off the Amish mafia and then watch out.  

[02:25:59] Unknown:

Man, they have them. Yeah. I know. I know. They they had a they had a TV show.  

[02:26:05] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   No. That's right. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. You didn't know that, Brian?  

[02:26:11] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-uh. Oh, yeah. No. There was a there was a,   I I think it was based out of,   the Amish   mafia.   I think it was out of the army one of the Amish of   areas of, like, Ohio or something.  

[02:26:27] Unknown:

Yeah. I think it was. And the lead guy   was driving around a fucking Cadillac.  

[02:26:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Some some some orders   do allow   a   little more freedom when it comes to other things.   Yeah. Modern amenities. Yeah. Yeah. Modern stuff. But most of them, especially the ones in Iowa,   oh, fuck. No. Uh-uh.   No. They will they will pay someone. I know a guy that drove the Amish around. Like, if they had to go to the store or, you know, if if they were going to do a job, you know, like, you know, build a house or barn or something.   And I talked to people that drove Amish around and got paid $1,100   a week from the Amish.  

[02:27:15] Unknown:

Oh, wow. Yeah.   I need that job.  

[02:27:19] Duuude-Ron :

They pay.   They don't they don't   they don't skimp and try and cheat you.  

[02:27:27] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Because that's not part of their culture.  

[02:27:31] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:27:32] Unknown:

You know, their culture is based upon   honesty and respect.  

[02:27:38] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   But, yeah, the Amish yeah. They   they got their own thing.   And   if if there's a phone around,   it's it's one phone. It's in a separate building,   totally away from the house and near the road,   and it normally has a has a answering machine   because there's no one there to answer it. You call and leave a message, and someone will hear it and then pass the information on, and then you might get a phone callback or whatnot.   Yeah. No. I because I've done some locates for Amish putting in a phone,   you know, at you know, by the road or whatnot. You know, I had to do locates for that.   But yeah.  

But a lot of them don't. There's no phones at the house.  

[02:28:30] Unknown:

Yeah. No. They,   they put it in their own little   own little shed.  

[02:28:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Yep. And it's and it's for the whole community.   There's one phone number for the whole community.   So, yeah, trying to call a girl and and and, you know   you know   you know, talk nasty or whatnot, yeah, the whole community is gonna hear about it.  

[02:29:03] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:29:06] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, that's just, you know, that's just some of the stuff that I learned from, you know, dealing with the Amish   myself.  

[02:29:20] Unknown:

Yeah. Ours modern society could take a lot of good lessons from the Amish.  

[02:29:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That'll never happen, though.  

[02:29:29] Unknown:

You're right. It won't.  

[02:29:30] Duuude-Ron :

That'll never happen.  

[02:29:32] Unknown:

Nope.   Yeah. Tell you, you talk about, you know, building a barn.   A fucking 10,000 square foot barn, they'll fucking have it up in one day.   Yep.   Before   from sunup to sundown,   that fucking barn will be done.   Yeah.   Yeah.   I probably couldn't be Amish. I'm too lazy.  

[02:30:10] Duuude-Ron :

And and   you see the thing is,   easiest way to tell if an   if an Amish person is married,   they have a beard.  

[02:30:22] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Yeah. They will grow a beard until they until they say I do. Yeah. Yep. Until they're married.  

[02:30:29] Unknown:

Yep.   But will not have a mustache. And why is that?  

[02:30:37] Duuude-Ron :

That's their that's their religion.   That's what their religion says.   Or or their,   bishop or their ordinator   or whatever you wanna call it, the rules,   I guess.   Yeah.   You're right. Because   I've never seen a Amish person with a mustache.  

[02:30:57] Unknown:

Then you never will   because   they say that that is   too   English   to have a mustache.  

[02:31:08] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Well, it's fine. Yeah.   Can't argue with that.  

[02:31:15] Unknown:

That's what I've heard is that it is   mustaches are an English thing, and they will not they will not have   any English,   you know, in their   lifestyle.  

[02:31:34] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:31:39] Unknown:

Oh, shit.   Yeah. It was an early morning today.   Larm went off at   04:15.  

[02:31:50] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, I was still snoozing.  

[02:31:52] Unknown:

Hell, yeah. I was too. I bet you guys were freaking   that's why you got all the firewood in your backyard, Rich. Yeah. Because you were fucking sawing logs.  

[02:32:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. I was. Yep.  

[02:32:08] Unknown:

However, on most Saturday mornings,   I'm building my fucking   my my wood pile in the in the backyard on Saturday and Sunday mornings. That's for damn sure. Right. Because I'll saw logs until fucking 10:00 in the morning.   Fuck that getting up shit.  

[02:32:30] Duuude-Ron :

What time do you go to bed? About the same time?  

[02:32:33] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:32:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow. Yes. So you can't do that.  

[02:32:38] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm in I'm in bed by   I don't go past 11:00 ever.  

[02:32:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, shit. Yeah. Most nights   well well, here lately, it's been   eleven, 11:30, twelve   Before shoot. Well   but last I think it was last night. Fuck. I was left till, like, 02:30 this morning.   I got I got sidetracked.  

[02:33:05] Unknown:

Yeah. No. My ass was in bed by fucking   10:30 last night.   He'll be in bed by 10:30 tonight.   Or I'll fall asleep in the chair and then wake up and go to bed. So   I don't actually know of what time I actually fell asleep at.   So I won't be perfect.  

[02:33:30] Duuude-Ron :

You take a nap before you go to bed?  

[02:33:34] Unknown:

Sometimes.   Boy, you guys have seen it.   Well, yeah. This is On our on our podcast.  

[02:33:43] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:33:45] Unknown:

Ron, where you at?  

[02:33:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah.   Long. Yeah. I remember at at the end of one show,   you you was out, dude. You was like, you was still on, but we we didn't hear it, and we just had to close the show without you   because you was Yeah.  

[02:34:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. We're you were just talk you were talking, like, five minutes before you're blah blah blah blah and Zoey blah blah blah. And I would got to talking and all that and got about five minutes later. It's like and so what do you have to say, Ron?   Hello?   Nice. Not the best. Seven.  

[02:34:21] Unknown:

And you know what? That night  

[02:34:24] Rich Chelson:

slept the best in your life.  

[02:34:27] Unknown:

It you know, I don't remember, but I woke up at about 10:45   and looked at my phone, and it still had the,   the text window up, but, obviously, the Zoom was closed. I looked at the   time. It's like,   fuck.   I've been asleep for an hour. Bed.   Time to go to bed.   Now when I went to bed when I went to bed, it, you know, it didn't take me a few more minutes to fucking   conk back out.  

[02:35:03] Duuude-Ron :

Dang.   See, that's saying, if I take a nap, I'm up.   Game over. Oh, fuck.  

[02:35:11] Unknown:

Shit. You you know what they say about,   the best part of waking up?   It sure to fuck ain't Folgers in your cup. It's taking a pee and going right back to fucking bed.   Now I might have a cup of coffee and a cigarette,   take a pee,   and then go back to bed.   I've done that.   And then get up and go take a nap.  

[02:35:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See, I can't do that. I just now some days, I've thought about doing that, but   I just I still can't bring myself to do it.  

[02:35:48] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. I can't do that either.   That rain wouldn't won't allow it. Hell,   Watson won't even actually let me after about 08:00 is the latest he'll let me sleep. And when I say 08:00, it is on the nose. He will he will rain by   sometime in the early morning, rain will work herself down to the foot of the bed. And so it usually nice and open up at the top, which is nice because then I can actually kinda stretch out a little bit for a change.   And then about 08:00, all of a sudden, I'll feel the bed shake because Watson comes up, and he's all excited, the fact that, oh, sweet. I get to lay down by dad. And so he'll walk down,   and he'll be all nice. And he'll he'll kinda lean up against me, which, I mean, all you know, how dogs do. They like to kinda lean up against you. And so, okay. Cool. I'll just lay there.  

And then he'll move,   and he'll move again. And then he'll put his head on my head, and he'll put his feet on my on me. And then he'll kinda lay up on top of me, and he'll start just kinda moving around and keep moving and shoving me. And eventually, he starts kicking me, and I was like, fucking hell. Alright. Fine. I'm awake.   Then he's like, hey. I'll get hey. Dad's awake. Get off the hook.   Like, bus Dad's awake now.  

[02:37:07] Unknown:

Yeah. Dad's awake. I gotta pee.  

[02:37:11] Rich Chelson:

Oh, we've got a dang sized hole in our door, so   the dogs are able to go outside whenever they want.   Oh, okay.  

[02:37:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Dad gets up as playtime.  

[02:37:25] Unknown:

Yep.   Oh, yeah.   Yeah.   Maybe one day, I'll go and get another rescue dog.   One day,   I'll may go get another rescue dog.  

[02:37:45] Rich Chelson:

That'd work.  

[02:37:47] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:37:50] Duuude-Ron :

I've thought about that.   I'm still thinking about it.  

[02:37:55] Rich Chelson:

Been trying to get you to get a dog for a while.  

[02:37:59] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, yeah, that that is true.   That is that is true.   I've   I've looked at them, thought about it,   just haven't done it yet.  

[02:38:17] Rich Chelson:

Well,   maybe you've got one day. One day.  

[02:38:22] Unknown:

One day?  

[02:38:23] Rich Chelson:

One day. But not today.  

[02:38:26] Unknown:

Nope. Not today. And tomorrow, ain't   and tomorrow ain't looking much better.  

[02:38:31] Duuude-Ron :

Well, tomorrow has a better chance than today does.   Pretty   cool.  

[02:38:41] Rich Chelson:

Probably   right.  

[02:38:44] Unknown:

More likely, it'll always be tomorrow.  

[02:38:49] Duuude-Ron :

But but, but, don't you mean   it'll still be today?   I don't know. I  

[02:38:57] Unknown:

get it. Have you ever have you ever seen tomorrow?  

[02:39:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. No. I haven't. I okay. I get it now.   Yeah.   Took me quite a while, but now I get it.  

[02:39:12] Unknown:

Yep. Because tomorrow is always today.   Yep. And yesterday will always be yesterday,   and tomorrow never comes.  

[02:39:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It it wasn't until just now that I got what you   when you said that, what, two months ago, three months ago? I remember. I just it just I just now got it.  

[02:39:40] Unknown:

Well, at least, you know well, at least   you got it, though.  

[02:39:48] Duuude-Ron :

Took me an extra minute or two.  

[02:39:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, the delivery guy tried to hold on to it a little longer than he needed to.  

[02:39:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. The post office said no. We ain't giving it to you.   That is funny.  

[02:40:05] Unknown:

Well, at least at least you finally got it.   That light bulb went ping.   Lights are on.   Apparently  

[02:40:15] Duuude-Ron :

apparently, I need to change the light bulb because it's not very bright.  

[02:40:21] Unknown:

Well, how much light do you need to actually read with, though?   You don't have to have a I need a light. Well, yeah, you're right. But, you know, if you wanna get something that's real bright, go stand at the front gate of,   the Delta Force Compound.   That is quite bright.   And they got about a million and a half lumens.  

[02:40:46] Duuude-Ron :

Really?   Yes.   Okay.  

[02:40:51] Unknown:

When you come in   at gate at night, yeah, you're hit by a million and a half lumens worth of light.   Yep.  

[02:41:07] Rich Chelson:

Five enough   to blow your hair back.  

[02:41:12] Unknown:

Probably so. Now I've never   attempted to go and knock on the gate because   let's see. They have the inner gate,   then they have a road, the outer gate,   the set of outer sensors,   and then the next set of outer sensors   that are motion detectors.   And it's right off a main road.   However, you step 10 foot off that main road,   yeah, there is a vehicle within   seconds   in between those two gates   where you're standing at.   Just come up and, you know,   observe you,   Then you move along, and then they move along.   But, yeah, it's it's very quick reactionary force if you step   10 feet off that road and hit that motion sensor.  

But it is   but on the map, it is I believe   it is Range 31   is where the Delta Force complex is at.  

[02:42:41] Duuude-Ron :

Where'd you say it was?  

[02:42:43] Unknown:

Fort Bragg.  

[02:42:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Yep.  

[02:42:49] Unknown:

And it on the map, it's labeled as rain I believe it's Range 31, if I remember correctly.   So but I haven't seen   a Fort Bragg map in   damn.   I left there in 9098   is when I left there.   So twenty six years ago.   Now you would you guys would really enjoy going   and going on to Fort Hood or Fort Bragg.  

[02:43:37] Duuude-Ron :

Why is that?  

[02:43:39] Unknown:

Oh, there's   lot of shit to see on Fort Bragg.  

[02:43:43] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really?   Oh, yeah.   Okay.   Yep.  

[02:43:51] Unknown:

Oh, now I was   just remembered   one of the talking points that I just heard today.   Fort Hood   is now, again, getting named   Fort Hood.   They've been in they've been in the talks,   but now it's actually been confirmed.   It's not gonna be named after general Hood from the Confederate War.   It is gonna be named after colonel Hood   who received   something else and a civil   civil   silver star   in World War one.   So that's who the base is gonna be named after is Colonel Hood   instead of General Hood.   And then Bragg has been renamed back to Bragg,   not because of general Bragg, but because of PFC   Bragg.  

And he was in   he received a Silver Star in,   Vietnam, I believe it was.  

[02:45:08] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:45:09] Unknown:

So, yeah, they're going back to their original   names.   And do you know how much it cost   the government to   rename   Hood to Kavasos   after all was said and done   with all the signage   and   all that other stuff,   a million and a half dollars   for that name change.   So now they're gonna spend another million and a half dollars for all the   sign changes   and everything else. And,   you know, when we're talking about signs on   Interstate 35,   you know,   that stuff as well   have to be changed again,   which in Ron's opinion, they should never been fucking changed in the goddamn place.   Right.  



[02:46:13] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But this is to appease all the Liberals,   the crane Liberals.  

[02:46:20] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.   Then, of course, we had Maxine Waters that   in the at the ice. Keeper?   Yeah.   You know, they they once put   her picture next to   Chewbacca's   picture,   and I was kind of offended because,   you know, Chewbacca looks a hell of a lot fucking better than Maxine   Walker's whatever.   Yeah.   That was a fucking insult to Chewbacca.   But she was trying to get into   the ICE detention   Right.   Facility   and   the military.   You know,   no. You ain't passing this line.   Well, I'm a United States congressman   or congresswoman or whatever she said. They're like, yeah. Okay.   Turned around and shut the door   in her face.  

I was like, yeah.   Those people just need to be   well, what's a what's a good word?   Firing squad?   Nah. They need to bring the guillotine back. That's what they need to do.   Public executions   by guillotine.  

[02:47:52] Rich Chelson:

What do you mean? What I say with everybody else, when everybody else comes up with ideas like that.   I have to say, well, remember that   your side's not always gonna be the one in power. So if you bring that back,   then they have access to it also.  

[02:48:13] Unknown:

Right? And that's and that's fine.  

[02:48:17] Rich Chelson:

No. Because you might be the very reason why they decide, you know what?   Come on. I think you need to I think you need to have a haircut by about a foot below the top of your head.  

[02:48:29] Unknown:

And, you know what? That's absolutely fine.   You give it let's see. I got   a whole box of,   50 rounds of ammunition. I'll take a fucking few of them out with me.   Yeah. Come knocking on my door.   Come in the door?   Yeah. I'll   I'll be like that same homeowner that killed those three,   black teenagers   because they were trying to break into his house and   fired   into the house.   And then when they entered it,   two of them died in the hospital. One of them died at the scene.   Yep. Yeah.  

[02:49:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:49:20] Unknown:

Yep. They definitely did a faithful.  

[02:49:24] Rich Chelson:

They definitely  

[02:49:25] Unknown:

fucked around and found out.  

[02:49:28] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[02:49:35] Unknown:

Yeah. Come in. Yeah. Go ahead and come in my door.   It don't take me but about a second to grab my weapon   in that's sitting right next to me and   aim it towards the door.  

[02:49:51] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:49:52] Unknown:

Yep.   You can come in, but you ain't going out.  

[02:49:57] Rich Chelson:

Or you are going out just not quite the way you thought you were going out?  

[02:50:01] Unknown:

Yeah. You're going out in a bag. You   or, you know, if they wanna wrap them up in a carpet, you know, like they used to do in the older days,   you know, take the body, wrap it up in a carpet,   go   dispose of it however they wanna dispose of it,   knock yourself out. Now bag might be just a little bit cleaner,   but   they can do it by rug.  

[02:50:41] Rich Chelson:

Well, looks like that time. Yeah. I was gonna say it's looking like it's almost,   almost time   to call or not. But, anyhow,   so, you know, we'll go ahead and let's get this old bad boy landed.   And guys, I wanna to the everybody who has been listening to the, to the show, wanna say thank you very much for, listening. Thank you for making it all the way over to,   to the end here. And,   this show is a value for value show. And as you kinda heard at beginning, we were talking about,   one of the value for values and why the value for value   is is needed   for, for us. But, value for value isn't just about money. Yeah. Money does help. It helps us to be able to   upgrade our our show, come in with better,   better tools, things like that.  

But it also is   about   other ways that you can contribute to the show. And that's that's what value for value is all about. How can you help the show become better?   And a couple of the different ways that you could do that is through your time. You could invest   some, some time in,   you know, creating   a a chapter art or   going through and and doing something along the lines of of ensuring the the chapter art is laid out, nice and concise. We don't have, you know, 50 different, chapters when   10 is all that's needed.   Or if you are particularly good at doing something, maybe you're good at, a being a webmaster.  

Well, maybe you'd wanna help us with a, get the website up. Or maybe you're good at,   graphic design and you wanna create,   create some, some chapter art.   Maybe you're a, maybe you're a really good prop jockey and you wanna create some, create some album art for, for the show.   Any of those are   are perfectly reasonable ways that you could help out with the show. You guys also help out by,   by just telling other folks about the show. Hey. Say, hey. I've got a show that you wanna listen to. If you're I know you're on a long run. You're you've, you're like me. You drive, drive, you know, many hours a day.   Well, then, okay. Maybe, maybe listening to,   listening to a three hour podcast is,   is feasible.  

I've listened to a couple of three hour podcasts. I got, three hour podcasts, and I've got one that ranges anywhere from three to six hours that I listen to from time to time.   And that's only because he he doesn't put them out all the time.   And so   there's a lot of different,   ways that you can you can help us out. You can do time, talent, and then there's, again, treasure. And if you wanted to be able to,   to help support the show, there's   those three different ways to be able to do so. If you have any comments or questions or anything like that,   for us, love to be able to receive those. You could shoot me an email,   at [email protected],   or you can shoot,   rotten   shoot. If you wanna get a hold of Ron, you'd get a hold of either me or Rich. You can also send one over Rich. Rich's, email   is r chelson,   and that's [email protected].  

And,   like I said, if you wanna get ahold of Ron, just send me or   Rich a an email, and, we'll get the email over to Ron. And   he can, he could respond to it,   when we, in his own particular way.   So, anyhow, with that, Rich, what do you got to say?  

[02:54:30] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, not much. Just,   still wanna thank everybody that is, listening and,   you know, telling other people about our show.   And,   just, you know, wanna say thanks to   you and dude because, it's, you know, it's been fun doing this, and,   I'm glad we're,   you know, still moving on with it. But,   yeah, like like Brian said, you know, if you have any questions, comments, grapes, moans, groans, complaints,   we don't care. Send them to us. [email protected]   or [email protected].   And,   you know, like Brian said, if you wanna talk with the dude,   send an email to us, and we will make sure the dude gets it. And, we will hear his infinite wisdom   of your email. So, yeah, that's about all I got. So, dude, what you got, man?  



[02:55:27] Unknown:

Well, again, as usual,   join everybody that listens to our podcast and   the ones that come back week after week and   enjoy our ramblings   and   opinions   and   oh, comments that we might have on this, that, and the other thing just like we always do. So, again, thank you very much for, listening, and you guys have a great evening.  

[02:55:54] Rich Chelson:

Alright. Well, guys,   everybody listening again one more time just to say thanks again, but also   Rich,   Ron, thank y'all both for coming, coming on and getting, getting to talk with y'all once more. And, so next week, we will   might be, talking about,   to both of y'all. Might, be just talking to me and Ron talking and and Rich just kinda mumbling in there from time to time.   That's the week after. That's the week after next week. Week after. Week after. Sorry. Yep. Yeah. Week after. So, anyhow, yeah, next week, I I get to beat you off. So yay.  

[02:56:31] Unknown:

And and Richmond might just start mumbling a week ahead of time too. Yeah. Good practice.  

[02:56:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Possible. Always possible.  

[02:56:40] Rich Chelson:

So, anyhow   Everything's possible. Everything's possible. So, anyhow, guys, I wanna say thank you all again for, listening.   Thanks, thank you guys for, coming on and and and joining the the party. And we will, see y'all next week.   Ron, Rich, y'all take care. See y'all next week. Alright? You too. Alright.  

[02:57:01] Unknown:

Thanks, Eric.   Later.   Peace out.   Alright.