Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this episode of Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude,' the hosts Brian, Rich, and the Duuude dive into a variety of topics with their unique blend of humor and social commentary. The episode kicks off with a discussion about the importance of intentional living and weekly conversations among friends. The hosts then share personal anecdotes, including a humorous yet cautionary tale about the dangers of drinking and off-roading alone.

 The conversation shifts to politics, where the hosts discuss their voting histories and opinions on term limits and the influence of lobbyists. The episode also delves into religion, exploring different denominations and the importance of faith. 

The hosts then tackle the topic of the Olympics, highlighting the surprising performance of a Turkish shooter and the inclusion of roller speed skating in the Summer Games. The episode wraps up with a call to action for listeners to support veterans and a reminder to be kind to others. This episode is a rollercoaster of laughs, insights, and heartfelt moments that you won't want to miss.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a duuude. This is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living,   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help The land of each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the duuude.  

[00:00:37] Rich Chelson:

They ex oh, yeah. They they they freaking all excited.  

[00:00:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's what she said.  

[00:00:44] Rich Chelson:

I fought him for Hey, Steve. The first one when   when I went to do electric. That'll what   Sup, dude?  

[00:00:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey.  

[00:00:58] Rich Chelson:

He was a dick at Granddad. I didn't like it, but it was only it was it was it was the only choice I had.   And,   he said 1800.   And I said, for   for fucking   what?   You know, I'm like, oh, hell no.   And, oh, yeah. Me and him went back and forth a little bit. He just yeah. Dude wouldn't budge.   Fine, fucker.   So  

[00:01:24] Duuude-Ron :

what the what,   I missed   it. The only part I got is   that's what she said when   you're gonna you're gonna pay to get fucked   or some whatever you said.  

[00:01:43] Bryan Goodwin:

How to get electricity put in? Yeah. He was talking about it costing $1800   to get get electricity run out to his old house there in Missouri.  

[00:01:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That was that was 4 or 5 years ago.  

[00:01:57] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Fuck. I can't remember.  

[00:02:00] Rich Chelson:

You know, it's funny. I can't remember. I think it was 2018   when I started out this   and I got it,   and I think I moved in it year and a half later,   2 years later. So so it was 1800  

[00:02:17] Duuude-Ron :

so it was $1800   to go from the main line   and get your   cabin wired in?  

[00:02:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.  

[00:02:26] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   I was gonna say, damn. What did they fucking they wanna charge to fucking No.   Rerun the whole electrical outlet or fucking the electrical in the house?   Damn.  

[00:02:38] Bryan Goodwin:

No.   Let's just run the line to the house.  

[00:02:42] Duuude-Ron :

Easy, sir.  

[00:02:44] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Hang on a second. It it   it costs  

[00:02:48] Duuude-Ron :

I'm either getting really shitty service or   Rich is cutting in and Rich cutting in now.   Oh, okay.   Yeah. I think we just lost Rich.  

[00:03:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay.   Yeah. Usually, if he if he's gonna cut out for a moment, he'll be gone for just a couple seconds, then he comes in and starts talking real fast. But Yeah.  

[00:03:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So because we talked politics   last week,   we got 0 hits.  

[00:03:18] Bryan Goodwin:

We got well, we we had our Good week. Our 8 or 10,   subscribers.   Right. But right after that, yeah, there was, like, 5 days of   no downloads. I was it's like, what? Damn it.   So   we may mention politics,   but we're not gonna go politics   deep like we did when we were talking about the,   about the  

[00:03:45] Duuude-Ron :

Debate.  

[00:03:47] Bryan Goodwin:

The, debate and then the assassination   Yeah. Attempts. So  

[00:03:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's funny that   I don't know.   I will be   well, I'm registered Republican.   Always have   been. Why? Because the the democrats have never supported,   the military,   law enforcement.   They wanna do everything to   make that just break apart   for whatever   reason.   It's just   so   I've been   a Republican. I voted for   Reagan.   Yep. I voted for the Bushes.   I can't remember who Obama   ran against. I I voted Republican.   Obama and I voted for and I'm  

[00:04:40] Bryan Goodwin:

voted   originally   ran against   against Bush senior   or no. Bush. It was Bush. Bush lost out to Clinton,   and then   Clinton lost out to George w.   And yeah. And then because George w   turned out,   Romney.  

[00:05:03] Duuude-Ron :

Romney. Okay.   You know, but and I'll vote for Trump   this time around   as well.   And Texas   is Texas is a red state. So even if I don't vote,   Texas will run   Republican  

[00:05:20] Bryan Goodwin:

like it always does. Well, we've got too many fucking We're gonna find out how many well, we're gonna find out how many Californians   move to Texas, what we can find out.  

[00:05:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. That's very much true.   That is   very true.   So   but   in theory,   I've been voting for the lesser of the 2 evils.  

[00:05:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Because  

[00:05:46] Duuude-Ron :

what would be so fucking funny   is if an independent,   say myself   as an independent,   started running   and wore nothing   but bibovers,   bib overalls, a t shirt, and a straw hat.  

[00:06:07] Rich Chelson:

I'd vote for it.  

[00:06:11] Duuude-Ron :

That's who we fucking need   in the White House   and the vice president   and every   elected or not elected, but every appointed position,   we need to have either redneck or hillbilly.   And the fucking country would be back in shape   in 4 fucking years.  

[00:06:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Basically. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:06:35] Duuude-Ron :

And be instructed,   do it's vote   how your   cons not your constituents, but how your   your people are represented.   Represent   your   people.   Do not represent   the fucking,   the corporate,   fucking what are they called?  

[00:07:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Lobbyists.  

[00:07:03] Duuude-Ron :

Lobbyists. Yep.   Vote to what   your people want, not what you do want.   You ain't fucking   you didn't get elected   by yourself.   The people of your area   voted you in. Now they want a fucking voice.   Be a voice,   not a fucking puppet.  

[00:07:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I actually I think they ought to ought to go through and   start electing the president   like they originally were meant to elect the president.   And it's not   us. It's not the common person. We vote for   the people of our   of our state. So our state representative, our state senate,   we vote for those.   They're the ones   who actually vote   for   the president. They're actually the ones who vote for the nominee.   They're the ones who actually do all that. They now do primaries and talks to some stuff to find out who does what.   But the common citizen   did not have   a hand at choosing the president. But I the the common people actually didn't even have a hand in choosing the federal   representatives   of our state.  

Those were up to the people who we voted in.   So there wasn't any gerrymandering or anything like that.   And, also, I'm I I still think that, we ought to do what   do what Washington recommended on, on the House of Representatives.   We should have a representative   per   a number of people   in a   in an area.   So, like,   maybe 250,000   people. Not not even that. Maybe 5,000 people.   You represent those 5,000 people in that district.   So, yeah, there's going to be about   5,000   representatives in the house of representatives,   But it would be a better balance of what is actually   viewed   as opposed to   the Dallas and Austin and San Antonio, you know, and Houston and El Paso,   thinking they've got this juggernaut view of our voting bloc.  

The people who are   in the you know, in Temple, people who are in in Hamilton area, in   in Lampasas, those all those folks have just as much of a power of voting as the,   as the big cities do.  

[00:09:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And,   you know, their representatives   listen to what the people have to say,   not what   not what   their independent   decision is because their independent decision   is always going to I can't say always   because I don't know. I've never been in politics. I usually don't talk too much politics.   I sure to hell ain't gonna debate politics with anybody that I work with,   because I got a couple of guys that just   god forbid, if you put their opinion   you put your own opinion in,   Oh, yeah. They'll just like   I'm like, dude. Okay. We're just we're done talking.   You know? Even religion. Don't fucking,   you know   nothing is a conspiracy   theory.  

If you don't like what I say, don't ask the question.   But, however Right. I'm not going to   I grew up as a Lutheran.   Okay?   I   everything.   Lutheran. Okay?   Lutheran   was a man.   He   just broke off of Catholicism,   and Lutherans were a lazy Catholic,   basically.  

[00:11:11] Rich Chelson:

Okay? He's right. So  

[00:11:13] Duuude-Ron :

so, you know,   okay. But you have   Catholics.   But, anyway,   I'll get that I'll get to that here in just a second. But   the representatives   that the people   elect   go by what the people want, not by what   they can get their pockets lined, and that's what all the lobbyists do. And all   you know, big money. 1%   of the 1 percenters   are the ones calling all the shots. Why? Because   they have   that 1% have   90 that 1% of 1%   has 95%   of the money   or   thereabouts.   And they're the ones that fucking call the shots, and they have been doing that for fucking decades.   Same way with the house, you know,   congress, the house of representatives, all senate, all that stuff. They should also have term limits just like the president does.  

So you don't get one person in there   that   is gonna monopolize   for years,   and,   you know,   would that be benefit who fucking knows? Beneficial or what?   You know, I think it would be because then you wouldn't have all these people that   are in it for the money.   Now Right. Okay.   Now say   that individual was well liked by his people,   but he can only say   do 3 terms.   And then he has to set out a term,   and then he could go back in if he wanted to or set out 2 terms and then go back in again   so that there is a rotation and it's not a monopoly.   But anyway, that's that's my views on re on politics.  

My views on religion.   Okay. You have Catholics,   Lutherans,   Protestants,   the Baptists,   all the different   religical   denominations.  

[00:13:31] Rich Chelson:

I love that word. Religical.  

[00:13:33] Duuude-Ron :

Religical   denomination   that   but what is   everybody's   goal   regardless   of   what   religion you follow.   Everybody's goal   is to meet god,   Whether it's God, whether it's Allah, whether it's whatever his name is,   that's what everybody   goal, like goal,   is to be.   But, yeah, we got all these different religions   fighting   about which religion is best.   Religion was fucking   made up by man,   you know, except for 1.  

[00:14:21] Rich Chelson:

Right?  

[00:14:23] Duuude-Ron :

Which was the Jews.   And, really, I have never   I have read my bible   a couple of times in my life   from cover to cover.   But, you know,   Hebrew and Jews been   since before   oh, what the heck was that? Moses.   Okay. So if they're the God's chosen people, why is   have they   been in bondage,   as Hebrews in the Arab world   in   every facet of   history.  

[00:15:08] Rich Chelson:

Well, in the bible, that's the way God wanted it, to, to teach them a lesson.   So that's why they were in bondage in the bible.  

[00:15:17] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. But Moses brought them out of bondage.   What put them into bondage?  

[00:15:23] Rich Chelson:

Their sin.  

[00:15:25] Duuude-Ron :

But did that start  

[00:15:27] Bryan Goodwin:

God. Yeah.  

[00:15:28] Rich Chelson:

They weren't they   they weren't following God,   and, they had   started worshiping idols and stuff like this.   So guys like, alright.   And,   you know, allowed them to be conquered.   You know, not broken, but conquered.   And,   they got put into bondage. And then   over time,   guys like, okay, Moses,   you gonna lead them out. So Moses let them out. They wandered the desert for 40 years.   Yeah. Brought up again.   Brought up. Brought up again because they   they were weak in faith and they started, and they started worshiping,  

[00:16:10] Duuude-Ron :

idols again. Yeah. I, I doubt to them.  

[00:16:13] Rich Chelson:

And Moses   Moses screwed up. Hang on. Moses screwed up   because God told Moses to speak to the rock and water would pour out forth.   But Moses was upset that day   because everyone was on him and he smacked the rock with his staff.   And so that's why Moses never made it to the promised land. The rest of the,   you know,   Jews and Hebrews and stuff like that did, but   most of us never made it.  

[00:16:44] Duuude-Ron :

Right. His generation,   that generation   did not make it to the promised land. Their descendants   made it to the promised land.   Yeah. But but the but the initial   leaders and whatever never made it to the promised land. Okay. But may Moses took   the Hebrew out of bondage.   How did they get there?   That's my question. They end me up. I  

[00:17:15] Rich Chelson:

Well, this is dude, I just look.   How they got there was they started sinning   and god   they they weren't listening to god. Okay.   God is love. Everyone preaches that. Everyone thinks that. That is true. But at the same time, it states in the bible, and god says it himself, I am a jealous god. You will serve no one but me.   And they started serving idols and and   doing all this other stuff. And   and god allowed pharaoh to come in   and conquer them.   This is how they this is how they wound up in bondage and slavery. Gotcha. Right. Okay. Gotcha.   Gotcha. So, yeah, and I mean, it was their sin. So right. Okay.  



[00:18:03] Duuude-Ron :

So the so the Egyptians   conquered the Hebrew and then put them into slavery.   Yeah. Gotcha. And  

[00:18:11] Rich Chelson:

and and, the thing is Babylon didn't help either   because   they Well, no. The, freaking Babylonians   thought, they could build a tower to reach God. And, yeah, they they got so high, and God just laughed at him and went flick.   Knocked the tower down and,  

[00:18:28] Duuude-Ron :

you know. And knocked knocked all the people all over the world.   And   and at that time, that yeah. And at that time,   everybody   supposedly on the face of the planet   at that time   spoke the same language.   Right. And because of that incident   in Babylon, they built a tower to try and   to get to God.   And God, like you just said, an excellent word, boop.   Just spread to people throughout the world.   Yep. Instantly created all the languages,   and that's now that's why it's called   babbling.   Because if you can't understand somebody,   what is it to you? They're babbling.  

Right. Well, Babylon.   That's correct.  

[00:19:22] Rich Chelson:

But see, here's the thing.   Okay. That's all in the old testament. Okay? Yeah. And then Oh, well.   That's all fine and good. And and and, I mean, it's it's great reference points. But you see, this is why God sent Jesus Christ, his son,   to,   to   basically   erase all that   and to start new.   Okay.   And   this is why this is why we're living in the New Testament and a lot of people   tend to because it's funny. The Jews,   check this out, a true Jew   will not acknowledge the new testament.   That's correct. They will not. They That is that is correct. They still read out of the old testament and all like that. But That's correct. Because they don't believe  

[00:20:11] Duuude-Ron :

that Jesus   was the Messiah.  

[00:20:15] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yes. He was a prophet. He was a nice man. Yes. I've I've heard that many times. But   but the thing is   there are some Jews   that have actually   turned around and realized, like, oh, crap.   The new testament is real. Jesus is the messiah.   And, I mean, not all Jews, but but   there has been some Jews   make that transformation.   So   so that's why that's why we have the New Testament, and that's why we live by the New Testament.  

[00:20:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because of the fact that Jesus came here   to take the sins   of the world   Yep. With him,   and   that's what makes him Jesus.  

[00:21:04] Rich Chelson:

Yep. That's right.  

[00:21:06] Duuude-Ron :

So   and if you can carry that much, I can't carry that much then.  

[00:21:11] Rich Chelson:

No. And   you you know, and and no. No. I can't either, but   but you see, that's the thing. I mean, Jesus died on the cross,   took all of our sins away.   You know, as long as you ask God to come in and be your savior   and have Jesus in your heart, your sins are forgiven no matter what you've done.   Right. No matter what you've done.   You know? And so, but yet a lot of people like to get hung up on the semantics   of little details   and it's like, no. You don't get it.   It's been forgetting.   You know? It's been forgiven and forgotten both.  

[00:21:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:21:53] Rich Chelson:

So but, yeah, that   yeah. A lot of people,   and   you see, this is why this is why I don't subscribe   to any one religion, and I won't. You know? I I read from the Bible, and I learn from the Bible. I don't. I don't.   And you know,  

[00:22:12] Duuude-Ron :

I won't well,   okay. I may go to church,   but,   again,   church   is not a   location.   Nope. Church is   we're having church right now.  

[00:22:27] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Church is a people, and and this is what the Catholics   this is what the Catholics have forgotten.   This is what the Baptists have forgotten. The Jehovah's Witness, Mormons.   You name it.   The Muslims.   The Muslims.   You know, I mean,   church is   the freaking body of Christ is   is the people in the church, not the building.   Mhmm.   So Yeah.  

[00:22:58] Duuude-Ron :

And in the bible, it says where 2 or more people   talk   of me,   you are having church.  

[00:23:07] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[00:23:09] Duuude-Ron :

So   in the bible's perspective,   right now, we're having church.   Are we having a   designated   aspect of,   you know, 1st, like, 1st lesson, 2nd lesson,   gospel  

[00:23:27] Rich Chelson:

no such thing.   There is no such thing.  

[00:23:30] Duuude-Ron :

You're right. That that is a Lutheranism   thing. Yeah.   Because you have first, second lesson, the gospel,   then the sermon. And then you have the hymns in between. Okay. That's   Lutheranism.   Alright. That's what the way I grew up, and that's fine.   You know? That is I haven't set foot in a Lutheran church. I haven't stepped up or stepped foot in a church in I don't know how many years.   Right. But again,   how many churches   did how many times did Jesus preach   in an actual   building and or synagogue?  

[00:24:08] Rich Chelson:

Three times, I think, in his whole life?  

[00:24:12] Duuude-Ron :

Three times in his whole life. 2   as a juvenile   and one as an adult.  

[00:24:19] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Inside,  

[00:24:22] Duuude-Ron :

a synagogue   or religious   building.   The rest of the time,   he went to the people.   Wherever the people were at,   if they were on the if they were on the   the seashore,   if they did at the town,   he went to them. They did not come   to him.  

[00:24:45] Rich Chelson:

Right. And you see the thing is, if you follow Jesus Christ,   Jesus Christ asks you to do the same thing.   He don't ask you to save anybody. He just asks you to bring them to him.   He'll   let him do the saving.  

[00:25:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right. That is a you know, and you can talk   about   Jesus.   And a lot of people these days,   as soon as you start talking about Jesus and religion,   they just   go into a shell   and clam up  

[00:25:22] Rich Chelson:

for the most part. Yeah. A lot of people do.  

[00:25:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So getting them   to Jesus   is   that's a these days, it's a battle   in itself.   Oh, yeah. But but they once they come to know Jesus  

[00:25:44] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I'm telling you, life is great, man.  

[00:25:47] Duuude-Ron :

Then,   Jesus will take over  

[00:25:52] Rich Chelson:

as long as they let him. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. You're right in your statement, but as long as we will let him. Because a lot of times and and I've noticed this. I've noticed this in my life   that that because I mean,   I've I've been a believer of Jesus Christ since God I was 12, 13.   But looking back at my life, there's times   when,   you know, I was like, oh, I'm I'm gonna do this. And I just take off and do that. And I'd be faced with all kinds of   problems,   shit going wrong, everything like that. But when I stopped and said, okay, god,   you take over.  

Guess what? My life got a whole lot easier.   Just just like in what I'm doing right now,   you know,   between my stuff. It's it's   this isn't me. I'm just I'm just trying to,   plan out   how to do this efficiently.   I'm letting god handle everything else, man, because I there is no way I could have made all this happen like it's happened.   But Right. But you see, that's the thing. Over the years,   a lot of times,   we try and take control. And and   and God being the nice guy that he is,   he'll let you take control.  

[00:27:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:27:13] Rich Chelson:

He adapts through. He'll just sit there quietly. He'll just sit there quietly and wait for you   to get done. And then when,   you get done and say, okay, Lord, you can have it now,   then he's like, okay. Thank you. I got this. You know? And it's yeah. I mean, seriously, anything in your life.   It's it's I I mean, it has freaking happened to me   for,   God, the last 40 some odd years.   I thought I knew better, and God was like, okay.   I'll, you know, let you do it. And then Yeah. And we all are concerned.  

[00:27:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. We do. In one way in one way, shape, or form, if we do it the way   we want it done,  

[00:27:59] Rich Chelson:

it will fail. Yes. Yep. But We will   fail. But if you let god do it and you just follow along and just watch   and pay attention, guess what?   Things go a whole lot easier.  

[00:28:15] Duuude-Ron :

You know what? I wish I could fucking do that.  

[00:28:19] Rich Chelson:

Ask god, dude. Give it to him. I'm telling you, Ron. I know. To him. And then and then and then don't worry about it. When you say, okay, God, take this off my off my shoulders,   don't fucking worry about it. Stop. Stop trying.   Like I said, Saturday, if you can't control it, don't worry about   it. That's a statement right there, dude. Let God have it. And just, you know, just sit back, go to work, do your thing.   Gotta work his magic, man.  

[00:28:49] Duuude-Ron :

And you know how many   well,   true. It's not magic. It's it's faith.   However,   do you know how long   in my life   I have been backwards planning   my day   for the following day.  

[00:29:06] Rich Chelson:

I know.   But you see that's  

[00:29:11] Duuude-Ron :

30   somewhat years.   Well And, you know, the funny thing about it is is I can backwards plan   in my mind   all I fucking want.   And, like, when I go to work in the morning, I can backwards plan.   Okay.   I know which truck has to get loaded out first,   which one has priority because of distance.   But as soon as I step foot and clock in,   everything   just turns to   nothing   as I had back work plan   the day before.   Yep. Right. Even when I was in the pump, the pump my goal   in the pump room   was   my goal.   Was it real? No. It wasn't.   Was 200   oxygen,   200 size   cylinders  

[00:30:10] Rich Chelson:

pump. Right.  

[00:30:12] Duuude-Ron :

That was my goal.   Now I always   ex always achieved   a 150 cylinders.   A it was regardless of what size it was.   I achieved that   on daily basis.   Because if I didn't have it in the pump room,   I went to find shit   so that I had something to do.   These guys   that work in there now, half the time, they just fucking stand around fucking bullshitting,   and   that affects   my timeline,   which just   irks the  

[00:30:51] Rich Chelson:

hell out of me every day. Well, I know, Ron, You have no control over them.   You have no control over them. So that's why you you can't worry about it, dude.   I I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It screws you up. It makes you change your plans more. But I mean,   that's the thing, brother.   Just   you can't worry about everybody else. You have to worry. I know.   You have to worry about dude   and being awesome at dude.  

[00:31:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I Honestly, I worry about worries about I worry about dude every fucking  

[00:31:30] Rich Chelson:

day. Well, you know what? Pray about it, dude.  

[00:31:34] Duuude-Ron :

I know. I need to  

[00:31:37] Rich Chelson:

just a little overkill.   Just say, yo, god.   Yo, god.   This is what's happening. Yeah. Even though even though he knows,   be nice and just say, yo, God, this is what's happening. Just just freaking talk to him like a regular person, man. You don't need no fancy flowery words or any any long I know.   3 hour freaking   whatever.  

[00:31:59] Duuude-Ron :

Just say, yo, man. Yeah. He he doesn't wanna listen to that.  

[00:32:04] Rich Chelson:

Dude, he'll listen  

[00:32:05] Duuude-Ron :

if you did use that. But Yeah. He doesn't wanna listen to me get yeah. You're right. But then it would all be fake.  

[00:32:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Pretty much it is fake when they use all them big flowery words, but, you know, that's the thing. You know? Just I mean, I mean, seriously, talk to God like a friend. I do.   Oh, yeah. Shit.   Man,   driving down the road.   Just just freaking like   like, like, what we're doing right now,   talk to God the same exact way.  

[00:32:39] Duuude-Ron :

He'll listen. Yeah. But I you're right. He is going to listen. You listen to what I say as well.   However, when I'm done speaking,   you respond  

[00:32:52] Bryan Goodwin:

for the most part. Well, yeah. Who says who says god doesn't respond? Exactly. You're responding and you're rejecting what he's saying. Exactly.  

[00:33:01] Duuude-Ron :

More okay. I I I will   agree about that as well.   But, boy,   I would just love to be Moses   and   have a fucking burning bush right here in the fucking   where my oak tree is at. And fucking god just saying,   you know, motherfucker,   this is what you need to fucking do.  

[00:33:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know what? You know what? We would all love to have that. I mean, I Well, you would you can have that, but at the same time, you would probably go,  

[00:33:35] Bryan Goodwin:

damn. I have got I ain't so horrible,   and I'm tripping balls right now.   I better I better go lay down. Yeah. You're right. I I,  

[00:33:45] Duuude-Ron :

you know, I fucking put speed in my Coca Cola and in my life, I'm like, oh,   moochinating.   You know? I know.  

[00:33:55] Rich Chelson:

But That would  

[00:33:58] Duuude-Ron :

how many peep but how many people have talked to   god   in in the history?   How many people I have.  

[00:34:08] Rich Chelson:

I have many times. Still do. Well,  

[00:34:12] Bryan Goodwin:

George Washington has. I've even think I've had a had a response actual response from god.  

[00:34:18] Rich Chelson:

I've had many   because because   god   let me tell you about this one time. A friend of mine,   got it, taught me how to drive a truck. His wife was going in in the hospital   to to have major freaking heart surgery. Okay?   And and I was in my camper,   and,   this is no lie. I will swear to it to this day.   And I prayed to God. I said, God I said I said, please,   please let this be a success.   You know, because,   you know, my buddy   loved his wife, really loved her.   And I said I said this would kill him and and just just please help her come through this.   And, when I said amen,   inside of me,   I heard the words, it will be done.  

And I was like and this was like a few days before,   and it was a,   10 hour long surgery.   Basically, the doc had to chop the top of her heart off and rebuild it.   And,   she, came out of it just fine.   That was back in o nine, I think.   So   so yeah. God I I mean,   I'm not saying God spoke to me, but I heard those words inside of me.   I didn't say them.  

[00:35:51] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:35:52] Rich Chelson:

But see Well, the point  

[00:35:54] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. The point that I was and, yeah, you know, I   I don't disagree with either one of you,   about   you have received a response.   What I was trying to say is, okay. God physically talked to Moses.   God physically talked to   Noah.   God physically talked to   Adam.  

[00:36:18] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[00:36:21] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know who else   he is   physically.  

[00:36:25] Rich Chelson:

There's a lot of others. A lot of others, but   he uses dreams.   He uses a lot of signs, uses other people even   to,   talk to you.   And and that's the thing.   We need to be listening.   And and if we're not listening,   we'll miss it. You know?   And, you know, God will keep trying.   You know?   Now it's it's not I I understand exactly what you're saying, and, yes,   that would be nice for God to say, yo, Richard,   do this.   That's probably not gonna happen.  

[00:37:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Maybe once you get dial dial 77777   on your on your phone and, you know, you get a direct line to God would be awesome.   So  

[00:37:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But but no. No. No. A lot of times,   you know, that's the thing. You know, it's it's it's the way,   you know, when you pray to God and and if you open your heart and   listen with your heart,   a lot of times, God will use,   he will show you his plan in his time.   Okay?   But here's the kicker.   He'll do it in such a way as, like, let's say let's say you're having a hard time at work with these guys in the pump room. And let's say let's say you pray to God about it and all like this. And then you listen   for God's response. And then next thing you realize,   it might be 2 days, a week, 2 weeks, 4 weeks, whatever.  

But these guys are all of a sudden   doing your orders right, having everything ready.   Things are going smooth. I mean, it's it's very possible it could happen like that. That's God answering your prayer.   You  

[00:38:13] Duuude-Ron :

see? Yeah.  

[00:38:15] Rich Chelson:

You need to look at different,   you know, you know, different things   that are happening around you.  

[00:38:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Then another example on that would be, say you want you would like to start having the guys actually get their stuff taken care of like you normally are saying.   But what if God hears you and goes,   I know how to fix that.   And within the next week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, all of a sudden, you have your regional manager coming up to you going, hey. I need to talk to you about making you a manager.   What do you do every time someone talks to you about being a manager?  

[00:38:51] Duuude-Ron :

I tell them it's not gonna happen.  

[00:38:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly. So you're the the I ain't got. What if that was God's answer?   Yeah. You want this stuff to work right? Well, you need to be the manager.  

[00:39:03] Rich Chelson:

What it yeah. See, that's you see, that could be, I mean, Brian, I I've got a I've got a side with Brian on that one.   I mean, it's very possible.  

[00:39:16] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? I Maybe God that's what God's trying to do every time he tries to put you in in the in the upper management area or even lower management area   is   you're needing he knows you need money. You need a bigger income. Well, we can do that through this. And you're like, nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. And   I get that's you're you think you're too rugged in your voice,   But, man, I'm gonna let you know. I've so I've seen   and heard   when you turn on leadership mode.   And the big one right now that stick comes to my mind instantly is the time you jumped in and you talked to Scott.   You laid it out to him. You weren't mean. You weren't   you weren't   grump. You weren't, you know, abusive in any way like you think you like you think everybody else is gonna think.  

You were speaking   with   the directness   and authority   that you had.   And that gets when you speak assertively like that,   people respond.   Yep. Weak men, yeah, they're gonna go off and go, well, you ain't gonna talk about being to me. No. No. You're just being a little twat waffle. Build a bridge, get the fuck over it, and you're okay.   Yep. And they are the 1 and you could and they could complain to the to the management all they want. I mean, my daughter I've taught my daughter,   speak with authority. Speak when you're   if you're in a position,   speak assertively.  

And she did there for a long while. They they management upper management for the hotel when she was doing housekeeping   was always talking to her going, dude, you have got to be friendlier with your voice.   And she's like,   I'm just telling them what they need to do   because they it's not my fault. They can interpret the words that I say as being me.   I'm not going to pat them on the head and say, you did a good boy,   if you're fucking up.   Yeah. If they're fucking up, I'm I'm not gonna say you're fucking up. I'm gonna say, you've gotta get this stuff straight. You gotta start getting your act together.  

[00:41:33] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:41:34] Bryan Goodwin:

And so yeah. And it took them a while and, I mean, granted, she did soften her her vocabulary up a little bit. She found better way more efficient ways to be able to get   her assertive discussion across.   But I'm at the same time, she   man, I would actually say, you need to stop being afraid   of of the management level.   Yeah.   Because you're made for it.  

[00:42:03] Rich Chelson:

Well, see, that's the thing.   Ron was, you know, an e seven. So   in the army, he was automatically   management.   Yeah. So so, I mean, you've got it in you, dude.   It's just it's just that you need to get over it. And that's the thing. Like,   you know, because,   you said,   your job has asked you a couple times ago in the management.   They see something. And like Brian said, that could be God trying to answer a prayer, and it's on hold right now because   dude is due. Oh, I ain't doing no management.  

[00:42:43] Bryan Goodwin:

It's kinda like that kinda like that that,   joke of   that,   about the blonde wanting to,   wanting to to, to win the lottery.   And she praised God. God, if you'll let me win this lottery,   I I would help my hand so many ways.   And God says, it will be done.   Comes booming doubts. Like, alright.   So here comes lottery night, and she didn't win.   So she prayed to god again and goes, god,   what happened? I thought you said it was gonna be done. Why didn't you why didn't you,   why didn't I win?   And so is   Well, this next next lottery, he says, no one won. This next lottery, would you have me win?   And god boomed down again. It will be done.  

And so she   all excited. Here comes the lottery night. She, sits in front of the television, and she didn't win again.   She's like, oh, what the heck?   And so she got really, really angry. She's like, god.   What is up? I've asked you twice to have help me win   the lottery, and I will help make world better and yet I have not won. And boo God boomed out. Well, you gotta buy a damn lottery ticket.  

[00:44:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:44:06] Rich Chelson:

I mean I mean,   there you go. I I I   I like that one.  

[00:44:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   But but I knew I knew that that was   the answer that you were coming to because I've heard that same Yeah. Joke. I think I've told it to y'all a couple times now. Well, yeah. But it then I knew that a long time ago. But you are absolutely   correct.   Yeah.  

[00:44:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You know? So Because But anyhow, we are past 7:30.  

[00:44:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So   We are well past 7:30.  

[00:44:38] Bryan Goodwin:

What y'all want to, talk about because I've got a lit I've got a list of ideas.  

[00:44:43] Rich Chelson:

Well,   what are your ideas?  

[00:44:48] Bryan Goodwin:

I wanna first one is about the Olympics. It's about Turkey hiring a hitman for,   for an Olympian.  

[00:44:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I yeah. I've got that I've got that one pulled up right now. I was reading that one. Yeah. Honestly   honestly, I think I think   because I just saw the picture and and, you know, people are just blowing it out of proportion. This guy just probably practices   is what it is.  

[00:45:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, one, he practices, but   and we'll get into the details of it here in a moment because there's a couple other thoughts that I have about it.   I was kinda thinking the dudes for Kamala, but   but at the same time, I'm like, nope. No politics. Let's wipe that one out for the time being. Yeah. It was woman finds out what happens when you choose bear instead of man.  

[00:45:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I read that one too. That was   that was Goddamn.  

[00:45:38] Bryan Goodwin:

That's gonna suck. Go out for a run and get mauled by bear.  

[00:45:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So   And   I didn't   get this,   oh, the Tradewise   that I don't know about, dude.   Yeah. I,   I mean, honestly, you see, that's the thing. I don't know why everybody's flipping out over it because,   okay, the girl lives in Utah. She has what? 7, 8 kids and   miss kids? Miss   went to the Miss World pageant. Yeah. So what? You know? Well, the thing is the thing is is  

[00:46:13] Bryan Goodwin:

the way The Guardian   reporter   reported   it was like   the the and we when you read it, you kinda go, okay.   Because she was agreeing with husband and stuff.   And a lot of tie and the way she would the way the reporter would report it,   but more of along the lines of   and then the tech and then the husband, the evil, horrible, terrible husband burst in and wouldn't let her have any of her own ideas because she was   did she ever think she would be on a farm, on a ranch in the middle of Utah? She was like, no. I figured I was gonna   be be,   be on the on the state world stage, being the ballerina that I like to be. And the way she phrases that back is   is that,   yeah,   her husband   ripped her from her dreams and got her pregnant and kept her pregnant   out the middle of nowhere where she had to be miserable the whole time. Yeah. But It was just like, oh my god.  



[00:47:16] Rich Chelson:

But see, the thing is, though,   she spread her legs  

[00:47:21] Bryan Goodwin:

and allowed it to happen. Well, no. She she is She like loves the, the place that she's at.  

[00:47:27] Rich Chelson:

I like that. She loves it all. It's the it's the I read the article. I know. Yeah.   You know, I mean, and and but but   but you see, that's the thing.   It's a fad.   It's it's the the trad wives is how it's wrote.   You know, it's it's the new fad out   and everything. And it's it's honestly, it's bullshit because it's not gonna last even 2 news cycles if bad.  

[00:47:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. It's been last for   well, TradWipe the whole TradWipe idea has been around   been around for, I don't know, probably   really kinda started creeping up about a year ago.   Okay. But Because it is the antithesis   to the feminist.   It's what it's supposed to be. Except you've got you've got po people you've got chicks who are supposed to be the the who's taking the trad wife as a lifestyle   and is   oh, I'm I'm trad wife, but they're   just   they use it as a means of looking homey   while while at the same time trying to,   trying to make it to where it's something of of a glamorous,   means living. And it's like,   no.  

And a traditional   housewife   is not glamorous at all. It's it's it is the messy, you know, it's the the women who go off and, stay home with their kids, but they get all glammed up to go take drop the kid off at the at daycare.  

[00:48:59] Rich Chelson:

Right. No. I know. But and and, dude, I get it. I get it. But but you see, that's the thing. I honestly, this this is my opinion.   Okay. Take it for what it's worth, but   I think we should stay away from that shit.   Because it's it's it's it that is right now   I think that is something that   we, as one old white man,   are not gonna win that by the way.  

[00:49:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, hell yeah. We will.   Because we're all white men.   We say so. Damn it.  

[00:49:33] Rich Chelson:

You know, it just it's it's just it's like it's like no matter what we say is gonna be wrong.   Yeah. Whether we're for or against it.   Right.   Yeah. No. It's a it's a freaking catch 22 the way I see it. But, again, that's my opinion.   You know, my Then I wanna talk,   go ahead.  

[00:49:54] Duuude-Ron :

My opinion   would be   the the conversation that we were   having before   for the last 30 minutes   would be   a hell of a starter.   Yeah. Yeah. The last hour. You know?  

[00:50:09] Rich Chelson:

You know, actually, it would, to be honest with you. But but  

[00:50:14] Duuude-Ron :

you'll   start   at the start of what we're having that conversation   on.   I don't know people would because we're not we're not bashing. We're not we're just talking   about   in general   thoughts   of religion.  

[00:50:35] Rich Chelson:

Right? Right. Yeah. And and and, yeah. Well yeah. And, I mean, yeah, we could yeah. I could move the intro   to the beginning, and then   we could start our first subject   with a with a what what we were just talking about.  

[00:50:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. We can go in go into that. If you want, we can,   we'll just,   that mark that mark would be about   55   minute mark.  

[00:51:07] Rich Chelson:

Because that's the thing. We don't, you know, we don't really   bash any one religion.   We just talk we just talk in generalities.   So we   I mean, I mean, we still offend people no matter what, you know, because   they just love to be offended.  

[00:51:27] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. Yeah. But  

[00:51:31] Bryan Goodwin:

so the other thing the other topic here I wanna cover was,   the Watonga police and their their means of   demanding ID if you go out walking?  

[00:51:44] Rich Chelson:

Watonga.   That's Watonga, Oklahoma. Yeah.   Okay. Because yeah. I'd yeah. I didn't see it in Google Drive, so  

[00:51:52] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm lost. But So I can see it in Google Drive.   Then also a little we'll throw a little conspiracy theory in here. Oh, I know you're listening. People are thinking the whole CrowdStrike problem that we had a couple weeks ago   might have actually been on purpose.  

[00:52:10] Rich Chelson:

You gonna have to explain what a CrowdStrike is. I Okay. Saw that in Google Drive, but I don't I don't. I have no idea what it is. Okay.  

[00:52:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, we'll we'll get into it just in case we have some listeners who don't don't understand. But CrowdStrike   is,   is a   endpoint security service.   And, basically, what it does is it monitors   your computer.   And when it's,   and and it actually does through heuristics and everything else,   it instantly   does   a lot of the   cybersecurity   stuff.   So if you have a,   you have a a program that suddenly start to try to download something out of a off on to from a server that is not known,   it'll actually block it'll actually turn off the Internet for that machine for for a moment   until that, until that program times out.  



[00:53:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:53:11] Bryan Goodwin:

And and it'll actually   take it'll act it it's very active, but   see,   Thursday, I think. I can't remember exactly when the CrowdStrike problem happened. But, anyhow,   I think   yeah. Or no. It might have been Monday or Tuesday.   Anyhow, the week following Trump's assassination   attempt,   CrowdStrike   somehow   and this is what makes everybody start kinda jumping on to the conspiracy theory level   is that they   somehow   screwed up their their   their testing   so bad   that they when they put a update onto the file of a con   onto the, onto a computer,   it crashed the computer.  

And the only way you could uncrash it is you actually had to go boot into safe mode,   but with no network on there   and do a manual   read, something like a may almost like a manual,   rollback   of that of that particular,   that particular   drive. And if the and if that, computer was had BitLocker on it,   you know, and you had   it's a 48   character   number   that you had to enter in.   Every single time. Anytime you wanted to do something on there, you had to type the number in, then you'd have to type in the next command, and then had to type the number in, and then hit tap the number in. And and, do the next command, tap the number in. Next command, tap the number in. And so there was   and this   knocked out   1,000 and 1,000 and 1,000 of computers.  

Flights were delayed.  

[00:55:13] Duuude-Ron :

Southwest wasn't. But   I was gonna say, is that the one that   or possibly   delayed all the flights,   all the transportation?   Because   our computers   in the trucks,   and anything that had to do with our transportation   aspect   was not talking to  

[00:55:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   That's CrowdStrike that caused that that caused that problem.   Oh, okay. Any any computer   that had CrowdStrike installed on it   what and was on   at, like, 2, 3 o'clock in the morning,   caught this issue,   caught this problem, and they were they were dead in the water until they got it fixed.  

[00:56:04] Rich Chelson:

So so so   let me understand,   see if I'm understanding   what this is tying into.   You you you're saying this here   might have   set an emotion all these other events?  

[00:56:22] Bryan Goodwin:

The CrowdStrike   issue,   I'm saying the CrowdStrike issue actually kicked off to drown out the   the Trump,   the the Trump assassination  

[00:56:34] Rich Chelson:

attempt. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I I'm I'm   I'm tracking a little better now. Yeah. I mean, it's it's very possible.  

[00:56:43] Duuude-Ron :

This is why I hate computers.   This is why I'm   I fucking hate computers.  

[00:56:49] Rich Chelson:

But but run. Bad. Run. Run. Hang on, though. Your your your home personal computer, you're not gonna have CrowdStrike on it. So it's not gonna affect Unless you unless you use your home computer for business.   Yeah. But none of us Why does it have to be on it then?  

[00:57:06] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So if I'm gonna do   say, okay. I wanna   get a computer   and be   medical building.   Billing.  

[00:57:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Right? That's a job. That's a job to see. Then there is a good chance that you would end up as part of the stuff they would need you to to be able to log in, that you'd have to have some type of crowd you crowds see, there's Carbon Black and there's CrowdStrike.   They both basically do the same thing. They're the 2 main   big antivirus,   anti,   phishing,   type   of of programs that that are out there right now. They both are basically   glorified   legal group kits is what they are.  

[00:57:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So, I mean, I mean, for for   but that's the thing.   For us normal everyday users,   we're not gonna have that on there.  

[00:57:59] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Okay.   I mean, I you know, that's where   I don't I have never   liked computers. Well,   I know how to read   to an extent.   Well,   no.   That ain't working.   However however   I feel that it is supposed to be spelled, I will spell it, and then I will let   fucking spell check take over.  

[00:58:29] Rich Chelson:

Oh, hell yeah. That right. Hell yeah. I do that all the time.  

[00:58:33] Bryan Goodwin:

You know, but I don't know what to do. Talking about ducking stuff. Yeah.  

[00:58:38] Duuude-Ron :

And I was never good in school. I don't like to sit down and read. I don't know when the last it's been decades   since I sat down and actually wrote read a book. I've never wrote one. I couldn't write one just saved my fucking life. But I haven't even read one, and I got books all over this fucking house. But I just I   never in my life have liked to read.   But it went and also when it comes to this computer shit,   you know, I because I am so stupid and,   I guess, really don't wanna learn   or overcome the fact that I don't,   you know, know computers,   I just absolutely   load them.  

Right.   I do. What what I can find on the net Internet with my phone,   you know, okay. That's   you know, you can do that with a computer. I can do it with my phone.  

[00:59:35] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Yeah. That's the same thing on both both ends. You do you that's what most people do.   Yeah. On their on their ears.  

[00:59:43] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See But sync sync. To  

[00:59:46] Duuude-Ron :

but to get a   podcast and all that stuff, yeah, I need a computer   to do all that. You can't do that over the phone. That I know. Actually,  

[00:59:55] Bryan Goodwin:

you you can. You can. It's   it's not as easy. Yeah. Right. It's definitely harder to do it on your phone than it is on a computer.  

[01:00:04] Rich Chelson:

You can do it on your phone now.  

[01:00:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See, but   I'm not going to because,   yeah, I'm already fucking confused as soon as you say good morning.   I'm   I'm out.   I'm   confused.   I'm done.   No.   You're gonna have to. I   I like the you know,   as you're showing me on the computer, I can get it, you know, that type of hands on. But to,   yeah, to read it and learn it and all, it I just   I'm stupid.  

[01:00:40] Rich Chelson:

I'm sorry. Not stupid.   I'm really sorry. You're not stupid.  

[01:00:45] Duuude-Ron :

I just hate to fucking read with a passion,   unfortunately.  

[01:00:50] Rich Chelson:

But see, that's the thing. You know, I can use my phone for a lot of things,   And   I I also have a tablet for this reason   because I would rather do things   on my laptop or on my home computer.   So that's why I got a tablet   to help me. It's, it's an extension of my phone, basically.   Right. Like like, if I'm out and about, you know, I I need to read an email, reading an email on my phone is a pain in the ass unless it's 2 lines. If it's 2 lines, I'm good.   But but if it's more than 2 lines, I pull my tablet out. Okay? It just I I just like the bigger screens.   So Yeah.  



[01:01:32] Duuude-Ron :

Now is the font still the same size, or is this font bigger?  

[01:01:36] Rich Chelson:

No. The font's bigger.   Oh, hold on.   But yeah. No. It's it's just no. It's it's,   it's, it's, it's a whole lot easier.   And plus, you know, if I need to reply,   trying to type on that little keyboard on my phone,   I'm not very good with my thumbs.  

[01:01:54] Duuude-Ron :

So so I That's where Veltec comes into   major play?  

[01:01:58] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.   Major play. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you say on my tablet,   I can I can use my fingers?   I can't type like normal on a keyboard, which is what I really prefer.  

[01:02:13] Duuude-Ron :

But Right.  

[01:02:14] Rich Chelson:

I can I can I can work through   on my tablet versus my phone?  

[01:02:19] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I gotcha.  

[01:02:21] Rich Chelson:

So but but I I mean, I can do all 3.   Brian   Brian.   I mean, honestly, honestly, this is good shit we're doing right now. This is fucking awesome.   Right. I was I was gonna say, why don't you just kick the intro right now?   We'll and then and then leave it at that. And then we'll just  

[01:02:45] Bryan Goodwin:

go on talking like we're talking, and I'll just No. I was well, that's what I was gonna do. I was just I was just gonna I was just gonna,   just record a record an intro, whenever I on Saturday, and I'll just send that over to you. Okay. Yeah. No. No. That's fine, dude. Because because, I mean, honestly, we've had   we've had some really good conversations already, and I love it. Oh, yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. And Now now we're we're good. That's why I haven't jumped in and tried to push any of the other conversation yet. Yeah. No.  

[01:03:15] Rich Chelson:

And and you see, that's the thing. Honestly, I think I think if we   kinda stick with this format because   the, intro   that you make   and send to me,   I can just keep well, I I'll keep it for future.   You know? And and, I mean, honestly, if we,   you know, if we just have these types of con conversations,   just whatever pops into our head   Right. I I think our numbers will start to come back up.  

[01:03:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, that's possible.  

[01:03:48] Rich Chelson:

You know? I mean I mean, it hasn't helped that I've been gone and   that I haven't that I haven't promoted.  

[01:03:54] Duuude-Ron :

But you've been gone for You've been gone for years, so just fucking get over it.   Now as far as the podcast, I know it's newer.   You're gone well before that. But, anyway, yes, we've gone. We've been doing things and, yeah,   continue on. I'm sorry.  

[01:04:11] Rich Chelson:

But but no. You see, that's the thing now on this on this podcast.   When we started it,   we were just getting numbers and   we wasn't,   you know,   you know, promoting it that much.  

[01:04:27] Bryan Goodwin:

And, well, and that, somehow we were getting numbers.   Well, a lot of that is, as we need to get back on to doing our clips   on fountain.  

[01:04:38] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Yes. We do. Our clips are a question of the month,   you know? Yeah. I mean, I mean, things   because   seriously guys,   within the next 3 weeks, things are gonna be slowing down for me really good. Oh, I know. I know. You know? And and I mean yeah. No, you're right. Yeah. Some of the clips,   you know, putting clips on and shit like that.   That I think helped out.  

[01:05:06] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? So Oh, yeah. It definitely got brought out the awareness,   of the show.   So, yeah, it would it would definitely help.   Okay. So it's just just a matter of us   going through and actually doing that. So  

[01:05:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Like like I said, let me sell my house tomorrow because,   I'll I'll go ahead and give an update.   I'm Alright. Little over,   I'm just under 13 hours away   from,   selling my house in Missouri.   Oh. So yeah.   So and then I get back to Mississippi,   and I found out the title company can   wire the funds.   So   the money will be in my bank. So I'll probably be closing,   maybe late next week on my house in Mississippi.   And then all this stuff that I have in this U Haul, I got to unload   a storage unit and then rent a trailer   and then unload it, take it to my house, and put it in my house and go through it and throw about 90% of it away.  



[01:06:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.  

[01:06:16] Rich Chelson:

You know, it was funny when when I was packing up   and, some of the stuff today,   I had a bag of old, old, old medication. Right?  

[01:06:26] Bryan Goodwin:

K.  

[01:06:27] Rich Chelson:

And and it was it had been tucked off in a way. I pulled that bag out and a little vial   about like that popped out. Little vial.   That was some old nitro pills I was given back in 1990   7. I see. They were damn near 30 years old.  

[01:06:47] Duuude-Ron :

I wonder what they would taste like today.  

[01:06:50] Rich Chelson:

I didn't try one. I just had,   I, I, I freaking dumped them in the toilet and it was funny. A few of them still has some power in it because you'd see them go poof   and it and explode in the water.   It was funnier and shit. I I saw I saw I saw 2 or 3 just go poof,   poof,  

[01:07:09] Bryan Goodwin:

poof. And then the rest just Well, there's if they do that, then what how do you take them without them exploding your head off?   Dude, it's a it's a it's a very small dose. Slowly. Yeah. I know it's a very small dose, but I mean, I Hold on. Because I've always wanted to get a hold of some some nitro,   nitroglycerin   pills also. But just because I yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No. I do. I do. Not so that I could take them. I wanna see if the the shit that I saw MacGyver do with it actually worked.   What did what did MacGyver do with it? He took them I think he mixed them with mixed added glycerin back to them and made it into a paste,   and then put it up against whatever it was he was wanting to blow up and then hit it with a rock.  



[01:07:58] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:08:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, hell, man. If you're getting little poops just by throwing them in the water, then, hey, maybe that's maybe that'll actually work.  

[01:08:08] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. Hang on. Hang on. Okay. Because I mean, I did I did have take nitro pills   off and on,   you know, for a year or so   back in the late nineties.   And when you put a nitro pill under your tongue,   normally within about 3 seconds,   it'll it'll like   pop and fizz under your tongue   and you'll get an instant headache.   Instant. Well, that's always pleasant, isn't it? And, and it's all right here upfront. Oh, yeah. It's a fuck. Oh, man. It's a bitch.   But, yeah, these these these pills here were what? 27 years old?   And   I saw 3 poofs. The rest of them just melted.  

So I don't I don't know if they were any good or not. I didn't try them, but I'm like, I'm like, yeah. Let because   when I saw that bottle, I just started laughing. I'm like, I can't believe I still have these sons of bitches.   It was crazy. I was like, okay.   Yeah. So so, yeah, I've gotta go through   every   single thing I packed   because I got shit that's old.   It's really old. And I even and and no, I'm not gonna show it. It's packed right now. And even when I find it, I'm not gonna show it. I've got a picture of when I was 2 years old.  

[01:09:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I got a couple real ugly pictures. No. No. You see, you now you've gotta now you've gotta share it because that's gotta be the cover. That's gotta be that's gotta be the cover finish   image.  

[01:09:45] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[01:09:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Come on.  

[01:09:48] Duuude-Ron :

Or or better yet, let me, send you a picture of me and my twin brother,   and   you put that up and say, guess which one is the dude?  

[01:10:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   I like that.   I like that.  

[01:10:06] Duuude-Ron :

You know how many people would look at that picture? You know how many people would look at that picture and go,   they ain't fucking even related,   let alone they can't be fucking   twins.  

[01:10:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Print that picture out. That that's the one you Yeah. Just you you were Just email it over Saturday. They were on. Yeah.  

[01:10:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's the one I told you on Saturday. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:10:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Perfect. Just email it over to Timmy. Yeah. Freaking  

[01:10:36] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. Oh, you should see the ones of you should see the ones of me and him when we were   kids.   Oh, see. I got all those pictures too.   Are you fucking kidding me? That shit get on the Internet? Oh, ain't no way in hell.  

[01:10:53] Rich Chelson:

Why?   Dude, we could cause a stir.   That's awesome.   You could be a new trend, man.   I mean, seriously, dude.   But, yeah, no, it was funny. I had, I had, I had found a,   and it was funny. I was wearing a sailor suit.   A little sailor outfit.   Yeah. Because   because   when I was younger   well well, my real dad was in the navy. My first stepdad was in the navy.   My, my grandfather was in the navy.   And, yeah, I was like, yeah. Fuck that.  

[01:11:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, so they had to dress you up like you were in the navy.   Oh, hey. Hey, dad. So special and cute.  

[01:11:43] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   Hey. Yeah. I was a good looking kid. Just just wait till you see this picture. I was actually a cute little kid. I don't know what happened, Sid. I was gonna say, what the fuck  

[01:11:55] Duuude-Ron :

happened?  

[01:11:56] Rich Chelson:

I don't know, man. I really don't.  

[01:11:59] Bryan Goodwin:

I know what happened. Puberty was rough, man. It was real rough. Oh, it was. And and not It was. And not only that,  

[01:12:05] Duuude-Ron :

somebody   found the fucking   ugliest   ugly stick   and   whooped your ass.   From head from head to toe,   they didn't miss a spot with that ugly stick.   Now I can't say too very much because I'm an ugly motherfucker too. Right. Right.  

[01:12:27] Rich Chelson:

But oh, hang on. Hang   on. I gotta tell you this. I freaking caught this. I'm I'm I'm starting to catch things now. It's crazy. I was I went to Sonic   up in Arkansas.   I think it was,   Monday afternoon or something like that or no. Tuesday morning.   I was   I was fixing to go pick up my, U Haul   Or no. It was another one. Anyway,   went to a Sonic. Right? Pulled in,   dead motor,   and a girl came out with an order,   took it to another car, went back in, and and it was an older lady.   You know, she's probably   late forties, early fifties, I think. I don't know. I mean, I couldn't tell really.   And then she comes back out. You know, I'm just sitting there minding my business.  

She comes back out, walks up to my Jeep   and says, are you here to pick up an order for Dana?   I'm like,   no.   She's like, oh,   I guess I just wanted to come up and meet you then.   I was,   I picked up on that one. I mean, real nice lady. I think her name was Vicky,   if I remember right.   Real nice lady, but,   but we chit chatted for a minute and, you know, she, thanked me for my service, but yes.   Yeah. She just had to come up and talk to me. I'm just sitting there in my Jeep,   you know, just, just trying to get   my mind   back straight,   if that's even possible.  



[01:14:07] Duuude-Ron :

No. Go next. No. I'll I'll interact in I'll interact in that,   you know, because I can.   Right. We we are so far past that point that ain't even worth discussing because it'll never happen.   So did she she wanted to see the Jeep with all the poopy mud on it. No. No. I had whooshed the Jeep. I, I had whooshed the Jeep. Oh, okay. Good. I did. I did.   Okay.  

[01:14:36] Rich Chelson:

I haven't touched you inside yet. Oh my god. It's so fun. It's it's I mean, I need   I need probably 2 weeks, and then I need to take it to the detailer.   Because, it was funny   where I go to get my oil change deck.   Those guys there,   last time I was in there, they was, like,   talking amongst themselves and and then the manager,   think his name's Dylan,   comes up. He says, dude,   he says,   here's his phone number. And the guy's name is Mr. Keys.   He says, he will detail your Jeep because they lifted my hood, you know, and I got mud all up under my hood and everything. He's like he's like, this guy would, will detail your Jeep front to back inside now for $125.   I said, excuse me?  



[01:15:27] Duuude-Ron :

Damn. Right?  

[01:15:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Otherwise, I'm saying, dude, your Jeep is dirtier than shit, man. Get down. No. Get that go get that thing and think clean.  

[01:15:37] Rich Chelson:

But   no. No. They had well, well, see what it was, someone had, brought a car in,   Toyota or something, and they they freaking lifted the hood,   and it looked   showroom condition.   And they asked too, where'd you get this done at? You know? Or or did you do it or what?   And he's like, no. Mister Key's over at Moss Point   for   $125. And,   you know, they   those guys know   that I like to keep my Jeep looking nice. You know? And they was like, hey. Call him.   So I was like, I was like, alright.   But I figure I need to at least try and knock off   the big chunks before   I, you know, send it to him.  

Otherwise, he might charge me 3 or 400   because my Jeep is  

[01:16:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And understandably.   But you know what?  

[01:16:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:16:35] Duuude-Ron :

Like me,   if I go out and detail   my Jeep,   you know what I'm gonna be fucking doing the next weekend?  

[01:16:43] Rich Chelson:

Wheeling.  

[01:16:44] Duuude-Ron :

Taking my doors off and gonna go fucking wheeling.   Right.   So   I look at it like this when I get   done with the and, you know, I could be possibly now done for the most part on Wheeling. But like I said, I was telling you, Rich, when I was when we were out there for tears  

[01:17:05] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[01:17:06] Duuude-Ron :

I haven't wheeled   my Jeep since when I started October.  

[01:17:11] Rich Chelson:

Dude,   you're not doing it.  

[01:17:14] Duuude-Ron :

You're just taking the pause. You're right. I'm taking the pause. I have not physically wheeled my Jeep.   It's 10 months now.   Now, of course, if I, like I just said, if I   went detailed it and took that decision,   then the fucking all the wheeling events would come up and it's like be like,  

[01:17:32] Bryan Goodwin:

I got the fucking  

[01:17:35] Duuude-Ron :

dash all cleaned out. I got the the door panels all cleaned out. Me, I'm not gonna worry about carpet. Why? Because the carpet's not in the Jeep and the carpet ain't gonna go back in the Jeep   until I think about selling it, which I'll probably be dead by that time.   So then the next person that has to deal with my Jeep can go and get the carpets detailed because   I took them through the fucking swamp water, the ass water, and fucking Hidden   Falls. Yeah. That fucking carpet came out and ain't been back in since. But, of course, I   I ain't cleaned it either. So I can only imagine what that's gonna be like when I hit it with a freaking power washer.  

Right. Yeah. That's  

[01:18:19] Rich Chelson:

a a brown river come out of  

[01:18:23] Duuude-Ron :

it. It's fucking something.  

[01:18:26] Bryan Goodwin:

But Be like watching one of those ASMR or carpet   rug cleaning,   videos.   Yeah. Y'all ever watch one of those?  

[01:18:35] Duuude-Ron :

No. I've never watched one. Oh, it'll be worse than that. It'll be worse than that. No. No. No. No. No. I've seen those.  

[01:18:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See those those there, you just record the video and the sound don't talk or nothing and just spray the carpet.  

[01:18:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Just spray it, and then you get your broom and you're   Yep. Scrubbing it up, then hosing it down again, and then   soaping it up some more. And   yeah. It's a   Yeah. I don't know why, but those those are those are always popping up in my in my Facebook feed for some dumb reason. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Same way with my, you know, they're  

[01:19:13] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. You know, And I will stop for a cup and stop and watch for a little while on one. But, you know, for the most part, I'll thumb   past them, and then there'll be another one that's like, oh,   wonder what that one looks like. Yeah. And there was one that was a smiley face and I can't or, no, some bricks or something. It was an outside carpet and was total black.  

[01:19:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Starts out just as nasty as damn it looks like they let used it as means of, of carpeting the the feedlots   at   at a at a and and stuff. And it's like, holy crap. It's   Yeah. Yeah. We're out in the feed barn where yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. Thanks, guys. You know you know Facebook is listening, and you know I'm gonna have a shit pop up on my feed now. Good. Good. You should be it it's not as it's actually kinda entertaining to sit there and watch them because they just they have these these nasty ass looking rug, and they flop it down.   And it's usually on a really white,   floor that's that's,   a wash floor.  

Yep. And it'll they'll start with, like, this watering can of solution, and they'll just   sprinkle it all over the place.   And then some get a floor scrubber, like the, the floor waxers, the electric waxers. They'll use some of them and use that. Others will use like a broom. And they just go to town and get it all suds up. Then they rinse it all away, and you can just sit there and watch all the nasty dirt and crap just get washed out. And they'll roll it up and smash it out, then flip it over and do the same thing on the backside, then roll it back up, flap back the other way. And it does, like, 7, 8 times, but, eventually, you go start seeing. It's like,   oh, there's actually some bright colors in this thing.  

Mhmm. Damn, man. Look at that. That's a red. Oh my gosh. That's a blue. There's a yellow. At first, I thought it was just doo doo brown.  

[01:21:08] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yep. Yep. But well, that's do that   when you do that to your Jeep,   Rich, with the carpet in your Jeep and probably the seats and all that other good stuff, you know,   are you gonna take it out wheeling?  

[01:21:27] Rich Chelson:

I might think about that one.   I probably will eventually.  

[01:21:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes. He would take it out Wheeling.  

[01:21:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. Eventually,   he will take it out Wheeling, but he's gonna get them both for this $125   if that's what he's doing right in his card.  

[01:21:41] Rich Chelson:

You're gonna get the most out of his $125  

[01:21:43] Duuude-Ron :

that he can for this motherfucker to be clean.  

[01:21:46] Rich Chelson:

It's a $125.   You're damn right I'm gonna get the most out of it, too.   Shit. I ain't made of money.  

[01:21:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, I know. But I tell you what, if you looked up underneath the hood of my fucking Jeep,   man.  

[01:22:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Really? You would see pecan flowers everywhere.  

[01:22:05] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, you you don't Well, you don't see fucking the engine.  

[01:22:09] Rich Chelson:

You see the engine.  

[01:22:11] Duuude-Ron :

That's for damn sure.  

[01:22:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You definitely know it's springtime whenever all of a sudden everything on your car is covered. Every horizontal surface on your car is covered with pecan flowers.   So   it's like Jacob's van.  

[01:22:25] Duuude-Ron :

That and I've never took to any power washer to my engine since I've been wheeling it. So it's just, like, nasty.  

[01:22:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   But yeah. No. It   yeah. These guys yeah. These guys said that, and, yeah, when they said bumper to bumper inside and out, $125,   I'm like, I ain't gonna find it any cheap.   Oh, hell no. No. I I mean, I won't find it any cheap. And and and and if I drove it drove it up to him like it is right now, I would expect to pay $400   because the incentive is  

[01:23:01] Duuude-Ron :

slap you.  

[01:23:02] Rich Chelson:

Probably.   I mean, and and oh,   you know, dude? Yeah.   How, how, how I how are you kept saying that that   the dash will get screwed up if it gets rained on or gets wet?   Well,   down there at at,   Kaye River,   this   was I think it was Wednesday night.   Out of the blue,   not even on the radar, not even on the weather, out of the blue,   storm clouds   were raging down.   And I mean dumped a fuck,   Dumped good half   inch. And   I didn't have the freedom panels in. Right? And I was sitting in river when it started to come. So I left,   rolled back up on the stage.   We were putting plastic over the equipment, and it was just pouring rain.  

And the next morning,   oh my god. My my dash lights and all that shit, they were flashing and dinging and and   saying hot oil and and just everything. And I'm like, oh, fuck. I bucked it up. It it it finally dried out, and it doesn't do that no more, but I was kinda scared.   And   the next day, I threw my freedom panels back on.  

[01:24:24] Bryan Goodwin:

So I Yeah. I I actually had something similar to that happen back whenever I first started driving for this company.   I had, I had rolled my window down,   a bit because,   back when I was still smoking.   And so I I had had it down, and I got I stopped,   for the night,   and it left it down.   And   sometime through the night, and I must and the rain must've knocked my ass out, because I don't remember what remember it raining. I don't remember wind, anything, any thunderstorms, anything like that. Usually, even the sound of the rain will wake me up.   Not that night. I woke up, and, I mean, floorboards were at were were wet and all. I was like, oh, no.  

And, I was like, alright. Went ahead and started up the truck. Everything set started up alright. And I was like, alright. Cool. Cool. Okay. I I got away with it.   Until about   5 miles down the road. And if I hit a bump just right, I would get my horn would go off.   And I'd be driving laws and beep beep beep. But I was like, what the hell? And people would be I'd be sitting there at an intersection, and I'd be in the front one of the front of the line, and all of a sudden,   beep beep. I was just beeping at random times. It was like, holy shit. What the hell? So I ended up having to unplug the damn thing for a bit   because   because I was starting to get I was starting to get fuck you fingers done and all because it was just beeping whenever it felt like it. So  

[01:25:56] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. No. It took it took a couple days to dry out and actually start working right again. But I was, I was a tad worried because I had talked to someone.   They had left their Jeep out by accident   and,   didn't have no top or nothing. He had a JK   like I did. Cost him $25100   to fix the problem.  

[01:26:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh.  

[01:26:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So   because in his, it, I guess, fried some circuits and shit like that, and you had to get all that repaired.  

[01:26:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Mhmm.  

[01:26:33] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, I was I was kinda worried that but   my Jeep dried out, and it's it's it's it's back to working. Right? So I'm like, okay. Well, cool. Hell, yeah.  

[01:26:46] Bryan Goodwin:

So how was the,   how was was,   Moyers the Moyers party?  

[01:26:53] Rich Chelson:

It was alright.   It was alright. It was it was it was a lot less people.   They   some new people met   met some, people from, Mule Shoe, Texas,   Hives, New Mexico out that way. Raleigh. Yep.   I I mean, they were just,   see,   the guy from Mule Shoe, I guess he owns a trucking company out there.   I I'm not sure what he calls. Makes sense.  

[01:27:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Probably, Faxand.  

[01:27:22] Rich Chelson:

Probably. Faxand or, or or or oil filled pot. So Yeah. Very oh, it's yeah. I would meet yeah. That's probably so. But,   but, yeah, they were I mean and and the whole family, they were just   they were just friendly, man. It was just cool, you know, and   got to see some old friends that I hadn't seen for a year. So that was even better.   You know? Because, yeah, you know, you know, got to see Bill and Amber and Jim and Ronnie. Hadn't seen Ronnie for a long while. Ronnie's getting married   in October. Yeah. Him him and his fiancee.   She's a sweetheart, Viviana.  

She's from Puerto Rico.  

[01:28:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay.  

[01:28:06] Rich Chelson:

And everything like that. But, yeah, her She's Puerto Rican.   Something like that.   But,   no. No. Yeah. It was it was cool to get to see it, and then dude even came up. So that was Oh, okay.   You know, I got to see Dude.  

[01:28:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Tank there?  

[01:28:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Tank.   And,   Tank,  

[01:28:29] Bryan Goodwin:

a guy, Tank, hangs out with that that test that actually did this tattoo right here. Yeah. I saw that saw on Facebook. Apparently, they were they were tattooing anybody and everybody that showed up. Yeah. Yeah. And,  

[01:28:42] Rich Chelson:

they was   they was keeping a little bit of the money, and the rest of it was donated back to tears.  

[01:28:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. So, So I hear you had a bit of a jeeping adventure while you were out there.  

[01:28:55] Rich Chelson:

You're a dick. I'm just gonna say that.   Yeah. I did.  

[01:29:01] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. He may be a dick, but at least he's not a dumbass.   You know, you're lucky you did not get the nozo   slapped when I got out there.  

[01:29:14] Rich Chelson:

Right. No.  

[01:29:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. Very lucky person.  

[01:29:18] Rich Chelson:

No. Sunday,   Yeah.   We got there and, you know, got things kinda all set up, and we started drinking. And,   and Matt Matt and Dee had gone somewhere. And   I was I was trying to find them.   I thought maybe they had went out on the trails just riding around, you know, because I mean, the trails are easy.   And,   but the thing is I wanted to climb tears hill   and,   everything. And   I was about I was well, obviously, I  

[01:29:56] Bryan Goodwin:

I wasn't about. I was liquored up enough. I was gonna say it sound by the sound of it, you're about   thoroughly polluted and 3 sheets to the wind.  

[01:30:06] Duuude-Ron :

So much. And and with and within and within that,   those   containers of alcohol, if you got a small cup of   dumbass   poured in some place   think he probably even mixed it in with something.  

[01:30:31] Rich Chelson:

Probably did. But no. I was I was I was actually going to the trails trying to find that man dead, and I'm like, hold it.   I could climb to your seal. I know I can't.   And what possessed me to turn down that that, that little trail? And I got down to the bottom and I'm looking at   it. Okay. I got my line.   So I died.   And I man, I took off and went up that hill   just   those first set of rocks I was having a hard time with. And I hit him about 3, 4 times.   And I was like, shit. It's like, I'm getting up this motherfucking new. So I got out,   disengaged my winch, pulled cable,   tied it to a tree,   and I had too much slack out.  

I came back down   and, and   I reengaged the winch   and I didn't have my controller in my hand. So   I went back to my driver's side   to get my controller so I could cinch the winch in and I can winch myself up because   I knew I could self recover. You know, I could get myself up this hill.   But with me being as inebriated   as I was,   when I reached in to get the controller,   my body,   instead of leaning up the hill,   it leaned towards the downside of the hill.   And when I got done rolling,   I was at the back of my Jeep and I couldn't get back up.   Yeah. And and,   I I don't I I don't know how long I was there. I don't I don't think I was there very long, but I'm not sure.  

And I was just trying to get up just to get   because thank God I put the Jeep in park. Oh my God. Thank God I did that.   Because otherwise, the jeep would've just rolled right over me.   And, then I saw mass lights coming through.   And so I hollered, they hollered back, and then   they went around   and came down.  

[01:32:38] Bryan Goodwin:

They they took the smart route. Right. Right. Right. And,  

[01:32:43] Rich Chelson:

Matt came down. He's like, where you at? I said, I'm back here.   And   freaking got me up and everything. I mean, my jeep did make it up Tierce Hill.   It did.   I was in the passenger seat, though.   I was in the wrong seat. I mean, I even made it up Tiers Hill,   but I was in the passenger seat of my Jeep.   I was like, fuck.   So, yeah.   And, and that's the thing. I wasn't aired down with my tires.   Yeah. It it was I yeah. I lost I lost all composure.  

[01:33:17] Duuude-Ron :

But No. Yeah. Well, you not only did you lose composure,   you lost every fucking cool point   that you have   ever   earned   in your life. Right. In a matter of  

[01:33:33] Rich Chelson:

What? 10 minutes?  

[01:33:35] Duuude-Ron :

Less than a half an hour?   Probably. Yeah. You know, try to get up and And now  

[01:33:41] Bryan Goodwin:

now for everyone's favorite,   favorite segment,   Ron Grant.   Because why is it that what is it about what has happened that's got got you   so wrapped up there, Ron?   Let let everybody know what it is, your philosophy behind wheeling and all that and why this why this is such a prickly subject for you.  

[01:34:06] Duuude-Ron :

Well, one,   the aspect is,   you never   ever   wheel   by yourself.   You can go over landing. You can go out wheeling. You can go   rock crawling. You can go without with a bouncer,   and those are the those are the hardcore rigs.   You don't go out by yourself because   something   could possibly happen   to where you break a leg. You freaking knock yourself out. You   something.   And nobody knows where you're at.   You just set yourself up for failure.   You don't go out wheeling alone   because you're not nobody is ever going to like on the highway, somebody's gonna pass you.   You're out on a trail   at night, you ain't got nobody gonna fucking pass you. Ain't nobody gonna fucking find you. So you don't go out and wheel alone.  

Rachel found that out   the hard way a few years ago when she Swamped her Jeep. Swamped her Jeep and just   yeah. Then they that was that turned into a mess, and nobody knew where she went because she didn't tell anybody.   You know? Granted, they were out in the river, but nobody held hell, nobody knew it.   And then that just turned into a great big huge fiasco.   But, yeah, you don't do that alone.   Number 2.   If you consume   that much alcohol,   your and that's why they call it impaired because your judgment is impaired,   then you just set yourself up for   something happening tenfold.  

Yeah.   And what happened with Rich?   He fell,   you know, which you   fuck, I fall on the hills too. You know, it it happens.   But you're at night, and then But I couldn't get back up. You couldn't   get back up.   So   you could lay there for quite some time.   Not too bad. Happen if you what would happen if you woulda had when you fell, had a great big gash in your leg and you didn't know it.   And then Right.   Well, we ain't gonna go into that. Yeah.   So, you know, you don't will alone. You don't fucking do it when   everybody drinks. I can say most people drink out on the trails,   but they're not gonna get to the point where their their judgment is impaired.  

But I tell you what, I have cussed out a few,   military jeepers that I have wheeled with because that's one of the groups that I'm with.   And,   I kinda broke their hearts   because   they   they got a little bit too much alcohol, and they got a little bit too mouthy. And I said, you know what?   I pulled them off to the side. I said, you know what?   You gonna go you wanna drink?   And drink like you did? You're gonna and I'm always the one in the rear.   That's just the position that I always carry   to make sure that the front   always knows that if the rear stopped, there's something happening in between and but you can't always see those jeeps.  

And I told her, I said, the next time you do this shit, you will get behind me   and if you get lost,   you're on your fucking own.   But you ain't gonna do this with a group again.   Oh, I richer   2 new assholes.   That's the last time I ever   well,   one of the last times I've ever talked to her, and her and her husband both sold their Jeeps. And they no longer   have Jeeps, and they no longer wheel.   Oh, wow. Yeah. That's that's how that's how butt hurt   they got.   And I said, you don't like it?   You know what? That's one of the stipulations   in our charter.  

You don't drink on the trails.   Right. I don't I   okay. I don't condone it.   You know, but I'm not gonna if   I've had a beer out on the trails.   A beer.   So that isn't that wasn't gonna it need great me.   But when you get   have enough alcohol, you're stupid,   no. You ain't doing it with this group,   period. End of discussion.   Those those are 2 of the things that just   chat me, and then, of course, he didn't air down.   That's just stupid.  

[01:38:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I know.   And see, and   and see, the thing is, normally, normally I don't, you know, if,   if, if I've been drinking,   it's normally just me and Matt Wheeler. If there's, if there's a 3rd or a 4th Jeep in our group,   I might have one beer.   You know, if that I I'm not. I'm not. Because   like, like, dude,   I'm always in the back   because   most of people we take or that that fall in with us, they're not as,   educated.   You know? They might know a little bit, but   they haven't been through enough to   to know what to do in what situation.   That's why. Yeah. And it and everybody has to learn at some point. Yep. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. And, see, that's the thing. You know? If something happens,   then   then we can, you know, educate them. This is how you do this. This is what you do. Blah blah blah.  

You know? Right. So but yeah. Normally, if it's just Matt and I,   yeah, we've been known   to go out,   little too hammered   once or twice, but not all the time.   Not all the time.   But, yeah, I learned my lesson.  

[01:40:06] Duuude-Ron :

I I won't Yeah.  

[01:40:08] Rich Chelson:

I I I won't do that again.  

[01:40:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because next time next time I'm not gonna just give you a de novo slap,   which I didn't do this time. You got very lucky.   I will just kick you in the freaking dick.  

[01:40:23] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   dude.   I'm gonna have to wear a cup next time I see you then.  

[01:40:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because you will definitely remember it if you consume money out of all before we go out wheeling.  

[01:40:35] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, honestly honestly, with with the way things   went on this past week,   I'm not gonna drink.   And it's funny. Okay. When I was up here in Missouri, y'all know this,   and we've   we've talked about it once or twice on a podcast, but   I Oh, yeah. There was a time when when I was up to 3 5ths a week.   And that's just whiskey. That's that's not counting moonshine beer and everything else.   You know? But but since I've been down Mississippi,   I haven't touched a drop of alcohol.   And   since last week, I haven't touched a drop of alcohol and I don't want to.   And I'm not going to because,   I mean, I mean, seriously, I mean, yeah, it was fun in the times.  

You know, I mean and, yeah, I don't know. I I just   I'm just at the point in my life where   alcohol's really not   a fun thing for me.   You know?   The Precisely.   You know? I I mean,   I'm I know I'm gonna have to stop cigarettes. Oh, yeah.   Okay. Yeah. Y'all can see it now if I do that. But if I go over here, you can't see it. Yeah. You can't see it. Like   Magic.  

[01:41:55] Bryan Goodwin:

But but, you know What cigarette? I don't know what you're talking about. Right. Right.  

[01:41:59] Rich Chelson:

But but and and,   you know, I need to stop these and I got a feeling I will   because   it's I don't know, man. It's just They're not they're not been hit the  

[01:42:12] Bryan Goodwin:

the itch that it used to. Oh, no. Which is one of the great things. When you stop when you   are able to relax   and come to fully accept you as who you are   Mhmm. Warts and all,   you don't   need the you don't need the the help of a serotonin   booster.   Right. You don't need that dopamine bump anymore. You don't need the the caffeine. You don't need well, not caffeine. I was still caffeine's   the nectar of the god. So so now I will never give up caffeine. I I I misspoke there. Sorry. Sorry. No. I would I ain't about to give up caffeine either.   But   I am trying to   cut way back on on sugar  

[01:42:59] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[01:43:00] Bryan Goodwin:

And   try and I've I've quit the smoking because, one, I don't need the smoking. The the the process wasn't nearly as horrible as people want them to be.   If you understand that   the withdraw the quote unquote withdrawals that you're having   are the withdrawals you've been told about.   Nobody tells grandma that, hey. While you're on, you know, while you're on the morphine drip because you had a hip replacement stuff,   that, you're going to you're gonna start having detox,   you're gonna start detoxing and you're gonna have,   you're gonna have,   the shakes and and and everything and cold sweats and everything else.  

If you were to tell grandma that, you would have grandma coming down with   detoxing from from a heroin over there, not overdose, but heroin addiction.   But they don't   because they're not expected to have be addicted to the to the heroin, to the morphe, which is heroin.  

[01:44:05] Rich Chelson:

And You just have heroin on the mind right now.   Yeah. Yeah. So That's okay.  

[01:44:12] Bryan Goodwin:

So it's but well, I I use heroin just because it's the harder thing. It's the it's the   it is the it is morphine. It's just the street version of morphine. It's a little not quite as clean, not and stuff, but it's   it's still a it's still a very   very what they A lot of people wanna call addictive, but it's not really an addictive addiction. It's a It's just an uncontrolled habit.   It's an uncontrolled coping mechanism.  

[01:44:41] Rich Chelson:

Right. But now hang on here.   Years ago,   I tried I tried to quit coffee.   Mhmm.   Don't know. I don't know why. Again, I was being a dumbass and, dude, you can interject dumbass here anytime you want.   But,   I was I was I was driving truck   and,   I,   I just   it popped into my head. I said, I'm gonna quit coffee.   Okay.   Now mind you, I was drinking 3 half gallon thermoses a day,   and I just quit cold turkey.   And, you know, the first two days, okay. Alright. Cool. That third day,   oh my god.   I woke up.   I I think I was,   I was down on 70.   I think it was in Missouri.  

And   I was rolling into Illinois.   And all of a sudden, I got this this massive headache right up here up front.   And, I mean, it was Yeah. And and I was driving.   Yeah. Okay? And and,   I mean, I couldn't focus, you know, and all like this. I found the 1st truck stop, pulled in,   went in a restaurant,   took my thermos, my cup,   and   lady comes over   with a coffee pot. I said, honey, you can leave that pot right set it right there on the table. I'm gonna drink that whole pot before I ever fill anything else.   And she did.   You know? I mean, she sat in the pot on the table and I sat there and drank coffee until that headache went away.  

But, you know, see, I didn't the thing is I didn't know what was gonna happen   by by stopping coffee.   I was just trying it. I mean, that was the worst   you know, I I quickly learned what what what was gonna happen and, yeah, I haven't stopped since.  

[01:46:40] Bryan Goodwin:

But but that right there   is   your   that that part right there with the, like, cat with caffeine   is because caffeine does dilate   the capillaries.   So, yeah, you're you're gonna have some physical reactions as your body has to readjust   to to   to allowing   the,   allowing the the   the   body to   figure out how to to function without the the with that especially with that much caffeine, of course, through your system.  

[01:47:19] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:47:21] Bryan Goodwin:

But   with like I said, with with morphine and stuff,   most of people know that have been told. When you come off of, off of a heroin addiction or you come off of morphine, op opium addiction,   you you're gonna have to sweat. You're gonna be sick to your stomach. You're gonna be throwing up all the time. You're gonna you're gonna have the shakes. You   all these other horrible things.   But yet,   grandma doesn't when she comes gets finished coming out of the hospital.   Even though she might have been on you you know, may have had some major surgery. And so they've got her on it for 3 weeks, and she gets to have it, you know, around well, not around the clock, but she has access to it around the clock.  

[01:48:12] Rich Chelson:

But see, that's where that's where your mindset comes in because Yeah. That  

[01:48:17] Duuude-Ron :

that's the whole thing right there is mindset.   Right. First thing I do when I get up in the morning to that.   Yeah. The first thing I do as soon as the alarm clock goes off about 6   times,   I'll hit the snooze 6, 7, 8. Yeah. About the 7th time, I'm like, time to fucking go to get fucked. Time to go   do life.   Right. Damn it.   So I go make coffee, and I go out on the back porch   and have a couple smokes and have my coffee.   But it's, like you're fixing to say, it's all about   mindset.  

[01:49:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:49:02] Duuude-Ron :

Every bit of it. Once you get past   like cigarettes.   How long does it take? Usually,   from what I've heard,   it takes about 96 hours   for the nicotine   to get completely out of your system   to where your the body, it doesn't   the drug is gone.   Yeah. Everything else   is   mindset and what do you have associated   with smoking?  

[01:49:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Cup of coffee Exactly. First thing in the morning. Driving.   Yeah. Driving  

[01:49:43] Duuude-Ron :

on a break because well, and, yeah, we can't smoke in our trucks, not with   hazmat,   unfortunately, but we can't smoke in our trucks. But when I take my break for my,   boat check hour.   Yep. Have a smoke. As soon as I get to my destination,   do what I gotta do, still have a smoke.   It's yeah. It's all about   after sex,   after dinner.  

[01:50:11] Bryan Goodwin:

After the neighbor has sex because, god, that was so good. You gotta have a cigarette too.  

[01:50:18] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.   So every   everything is associated   with having a cigarette.   Right. Get it over that mindset.   That is the fucking bit.  

[01:50:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And see, that's where the because,   you know, I've thought about this as as I   dialed back my alcohol drinking when I was up here, you know, when I got down to Mississippi. And, and it's, it's funny because   now, now I wasn't, I wouldn't say I was a stone cold alcoholic.   I just drank a shitload.  

[01:50:56] Bryan Goodwin:

But Yeah. Well, you drank a shitload, but at the same time, I stung an alcoholic.   A dips maniac as I used to call   them, they would go if they were to just suddenly just stop the way you did   Mhmm.   They would have gone through the whole detoxing   experience.  

[01:51:22] Rich Chelson:

And see this But because you I I didn't have any of that. Exactly. Because you had you were  

[01:51:30] Bryan Goodwin:

in a in a place in your head where you were not trying to use alcohol   to   mask the discomfort of your life.  

[01:51:41] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Yeah. You're right. You're right.  

[01:51:43] Bryan Goodwin:

And I'm not just talking about the the body pain that you're having, but there was mental pain that you were going through too. And that's that's what alcoholics   and and drug addicts   and and overeaters and porn addicts and and video game addicts. That's all what they all are doing is they're just trying to   quiet the noise that's in their head. Now that noise being something of a uncomfortable thought.   What that is varies per person, and you have to figure that out.   But at the time, when you can get when you're okay with that and you're a 100% accepting of who you are,   all of a   sudden, the alcohol just falls away.  

Right. You're standing there going, shit. I haven't had a drink in 2 weeks. What the hell is up with me,   Ray?  

[01:52:32] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Now look at your And   Go ahead. I'm sorry.  

[01:52:37] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. No. No. No. Keep going. What we're saying? What we're saying?  

[01:52:40] Duuude-Ron :

You know, like with Rich's situation. Okay.   When did you do a lot of your drinking? Summer or winter?  

[01:52:48] Rich Chelson:

When I said Or all Missouri all the time. I mean, I I always had something.  

[01:52:53] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. But when did you have more, summer or winter?  

[01:53:01] Bryan Goodwin:

In the wintertime. I would say winter wintertime. Yeah. Because you're stuck in the house in paint. Right. Stuck in the cabin  

[01:53:08] Duuude-Ron :

and stuck inside. So that was one of your   your habits that you did.   Now that you've moved south,  

[01:53:17] Rich Chelson:

you're not no winner.  

[01:53:20] Duuude-Ron :

Pretty much.  

[01:53:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Well Yeah. Well, there'll be a slight winner. It'll be about 4 days.  

[01:53:26] Duuude-Ron :

About 4. Yes. That's about right. About 4 to 7 days, that'll be it. But Yep. You you   because you're now close   to the ocean, the beach,   you have some place   very close by   to engage your time with.   Right.   But up here when you're up in Missouri,   what engaged your time?   You really didn't have anything.   Right. Because you didn't go out   elsewhere. You're in the cabin.   That's what consumed your time. Yeah. Now   your   radio,   your ham sandwich.   Yeah. You're going to the beach.   You go to watch the   the shrimp and boats come in and out. Yep. Yep. Because that that is within   how many minutes   of a drive?  

Like Well, your new house is yeah. Your new house is 5 minutes   from the coast.   So for that matter, you could go down to the coast, walk down on the beach,   that's what's occupying your time. Or go over to the harbor,   watch the boats come in, That's what's occupying   your time. And not only that, it's not   cold.  

[01:54:46] Rich Chelson:

That's ex that is exactly right, dude.   That's say cone of Mississippi, dude.   We can hang out and have fun together.  

[01:54:56] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, you're right, sir.  

[01:54:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Check this out at He'll even teach Morse code.  

[01:55:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I will. I've got all this stuff. Thing  

[01:55:05] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. One thing   that one Mhmm. In   that one day, because tomorrow never comes seems like it. One day, I would like to learn American sign language.   What's stopping me? Well, yeah, I know. And the first thing you guys are gonna say is what the fuck is stopping you?   Y o u u.   That's what's stopping you.  

[01:55:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. It's me. That's why I'm learning Italian.  

[01:55:34] Rich Chelson:

But hang on. Hang on. The at at this park down there where I go to in Mississippi,   it's funny. You know, remember when we were kids, we'd go cruising to town, cruising the strip at night, hollering at older people, say, hey. How you doing? You know, shit like that. Right? Doing the drag.  

[01:55:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Doing a drag. Yep.  

[01:55:53] Rich Chelson:

Check this out. I've gone to this park, parked my jeep, just sat there, and just watched.   Dude, these motherfuckers do it in the daytime.   All kinds of people come cruising through this park. And they they come in, cruise around,   and then leave. And and, you know, and then later on, they'll come back around.   Fear is still sitting there. They'll wave at you and shit.   It's it's freaking hilarious. I was sitting there. It's like, you motherfuckers are cruising in the daytime. Fuck tonight.   They cruise in. And and   and you you see Jeeps, cars, pickup trucks, and and, I mean, from   everything from brand new down to 40 years, 50 years old, you know, old cars or whatnot. But, yeah, people come down and cruise this part.  

And it's like, okay. Cool. This yeah. And I'm I'm like, yeah, it is kinda cool. You know, especially when I'm sitting there and and, you know,   people,   recognize my stinger on my Jeep. So   when they see my Jeep, they're like, oh, shit. He's back. Hey. How are you doing? In fact, I even I even That's that dude with the antenna.   Right. I even I even had a guy,   high school kid. I guess I guess he only goes half a day.   And he comes down to the park   and, he, runs a, what is it? I think it's a 2006 TJ.   Because, I was just sitting in the park. He pulls up right next to me, and we're sitting there just chit chatting and talking.   You know? Young kid. He's, you know, 17, 18 years old. Nice   nice kid.  

You know, never did catch his name, but, hey.   I had a Jeep. He had a Jeep. We sat there talking. We talked Jeep.   Yes, we did. And it was it was good times.   But, yeah, no, I just thought it was funny, people at this park.   I mean, people go cruising   during the middle of the day.   And I just thought that was   what's that dude?  

[01:57:57] Duuude-Ron :

And during the middle of the week at that? Yes.  

[01:58:00] Rich Chelson:

Every day, dude, every day   say you   need to come over. We could go cruise the park.   Oh, shit. I I mean, it's just yeah. I I just thought it was funny. It just it just blows my mind that   instead of the nighttime cruising, we're daytime cruising.   Daytime   cruisers.   Mhmm.   Hey. We could start a club like that too.   That's an idea. Daytime Cruisers.  

[01:58:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. The DayQuil Cruisers. Yeah. Yeah.   Oh, DayQuil. Because we're old enough. Our allergies are kicking our ass, so, you know, especially in the springtime.  

[01:58:45] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[01:58:47] Duuude-Ron :

As well as every   as well as every other ailment that comes along.  

[01:58:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So  

[01:58:56] Bryan Goodwin:

alright. Well, before we get done, because I do I'm dying to talk about this. I do wanna talk about   the,   the the Turkish,   Olympiad   who won second place,   and everybody's losing their damn mind on it. I I and I'm almost thoroughly convinced. Now I've heard his story,   but I still am kinda convinced that he actually probably was a hit man.   What? In his former life or something? Well, he might still be a hit man. Maybe that's why he's in the Olympics. He's gotta take out, you know, the the, the Russian swimmer or something. I don't know.   So   but he's but this the just the fact that this guy, first off, the dude's 51.  

Mhmm. He's the oldest one out of all the all the shooters.   And he's   most of the shooters have special goggles. One that covers one eye.   The other is designed to keep the focus in on where they're wanting to shoot at.   And they have all you know, they got the earmuffs.   They're all decked out in all the special equipment.   Mhmm. And then you have this this, this Turkish shooter, and he stands up there. He's got a hand in the pocket.   He both eyes were open.   And just is   has the gun out and and, blink, nails second place.   Alright. That's a feat right there. Yeah. But but one of the and that's an amazing stuff. And I think it's great because everyone's trying to figure out. It's like, holy shit. He didn't need any of the other equipment. Oh, no. It's not needed. It's just those were all crunches made.  



[02:00:37] Rich Chelson:

Right. And see, the thing is, though, it's an air gun. Why do you need special hearing equipment for an air gun?  

[02:00:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Is it? There I thought it was 22s. No. Which I didn't mean, why do you need it? Why you need hearing   equipment for for 22 either, but  

[02:00:53] Rich Chelson:

you know, you'd know at 22,   you don't need hearing equipment even for a 556.  

[02:01:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. At least I don't. I mean Well you know? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of them would say, yeah. You probably need some. But the other thing that I wanna talk about on that whole topic   is   who did it   win?   Who didn't even   place?   That's correct. The Americans.  

[02:01:24] Rich Chelson:

What?  

[02:01:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Americans   didn't place. They didn't win 1st. They didn't win 3rd. They didn't place.   Wow. And I that's got me to thinking, if this dude's 51,   what's keeping all of us from going going to the,   going up to the, the the   whatever the tryouts are for Olymp for the Olympics   and and having, you know, shit ton of hillbillies showing up, you know, with all whatever it is and going, oh, hell, yeah. Sit there. Let me get licked it up here real quick and, you know, and shoot the bullets that they already shot. You know?  

[02:02:00] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god. The freaking Olympic Committee would lose their shit.  

[02:02:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, well, yeah. Because, I mean, what was it? They, they   demanded that and I don't know how they're doing surfing in Paris.  

[02:02:14] Rich Chelson:

No. They're they're having surfing Surfing surfing is in in another country.  

[02:02:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, they doing it? Okay. Well, that was the thing. Because I had saw something,  

[02:02:25] Rich Chelson:

about the finals of the surfing, but it's it's held in another country.  

[02:02:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Or it goes to another country. I was just like going, son of a gun. How are you doing that in France? Because I know they are not known for their for their surf, but but one of the Brazilian   the the the member of the Brazilian surf team   was being threatened   of disqualification   because he had a picture of Jesus on his board. They didn't apparently, they didn't like the fact that he had Jesus on his board. So  

[02:02:54] Rich Chelson:

disqualify someone for that. It's not in the rules.  

[02:02:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But according to them, it is. No.   Because it's not meant to be a be a religious  

[02:03:05] Rich Chelson:

statement or anything. Now, but whatever you know, that's that's bullshit because that guy had it on his board because that's what he believes.   So   Yeah. You know, and no,   no, I understand what you're saying   and everything, but now now, hell no.   And it's it's like, that is my board. You don't tell me what I can and can't put on my board. You know? Well If you if if you give me a board, you can put whatever the hell you want on it.  

[02:03:35] Duuude-Ron :

You know? But that's Right. I I mean, I don't surf. I mean, you know, for And I what I mean and And I haven't seen the surf. And what's on what's on the board?  

[02:03:47] Bryan Goodwin:

On the side that he actually stands on, it's a picture of Jesus.   Because he he's from Brazil, which is, you know, a big Catholic,   Catholic country. So Yeah. So, yeah, he has Jesus on his board. And and so the, the Olympic committee   apparently   a couple   couple weeks, I think, before   the Olympics actually started, he he got a message got a a letter from them saying, hey.   You've gotta change the graphics on your,   on your board because,   because we are,   again, because they're a   an international group that is,   promoting   whatever, you know, blah blah blah blah blah.  

Flowery fart unicorn   in words. And so   we they need and I don't know if he actually did take it off or not. I just I saw it as a, as kind of a secondary,   message or a secondary,   post on on Daily Mail. I think it was Daily Mail.   Daily Mail or Fox News. 1 of the 2. Anyhow,   Anyhow, saw saw that, and I just kinda saw it in passing and just kinda read the first couple,   paragraphs and it's like, oh, man. I'll I'll read it later and then never got to it again. Right. But but anyhow so but, I mean, we could yeah. We would we would,   if you had the hillbilly,   star, dream team,   for for shooting  

[02:05:19] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god. We would own all the medals.  

[02:05:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But, again, you know, we they'd also all end up being disqualified because they're probably either a, drunk, b, talking about god, c, trying to baptize   everybody insane. So   no. No. Come here, Mohammed. No. No. No. Uh-huh. No. Not enough of that. Come Just come here. Hold your nose. In the name of god, there you go. You're good. Alright. Now go on.  

[02:05:46] Duuude-Ron :

You know, but are you   you know, okay.   Nobody in the US placed on the shooting aspect. On the shooting aspect. Exactly.   That's sad. And with with as many as many firearms we have in this country,   you know,   that's irrelevant.   However,   I haven't seen anything about the Turkish because I don't get onto the news very much. But, you know, in his defense,   how he shoots   is,   okay, he doesn't need the AIDS?   How is that cheating? How is that anything?  

[02:06:30] Bryan Goodwin:

It's not the fact that, well, right. But it's He's right. It's just it's just amazing that   that, you know, he proves what everybody else thinks.  

[02:06:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   That Yeah. Yeah. He just pror Or he he pror The equipment is supposed to give him a special edge.   Right. He debunks the miss.  

[02:06:53] Rich Chelson:

He just fucking blew that out the water because I mean, yeah, hand in his pocket.   And and I saw the picture. He's sitting there holding the gun, you know, and he just standing there and it's just like I'm like,   you know, for me, it's normal. I've seen it, you know, but but you know, that's the thing. All these people wanna flip out   because, oh my god. That's not normal. And say, this is why a lot of people,   even in my own family,   blood family,   don't like me because   I would be like that guy.   I would be different.   You know?  

Right.   And I I mean, yeah, I've been fighting this for years and I don't fight it. I just I just go on and do my thing.  

[02:07:37] Bryan Goodwin:

So, you know,   I think I'm I'm I think though that, here in another 4 years,   we need to go on ahead and just get the the hillbilly dream tee together.   And just   do tryouts.   Whoever can hit something, you get 2 and a half miles with a pistol, both eyes open, hand in pocket,   you know,   with a few shots of liquor. Alright. You're good.  

[02:08:03] Rich Chelson:

We need we need Bubba, Bubba Junior, Bubba the 3rd, and Bubba the 4th.   We've got And Bubba j. We got And Bubba j. Larry and my other brother, Larry. Right. Right. By God, we take for a second. We got bub bub bubbers bubbles  

[02:08:20] Bryan Goodwin:

bubbers bubba bubba j bubba boy bubba   we got hubba bubba. We got cupcake over here. We got jelly bean there.  

[02:08:29] Rich Chelson:

Because yeah. And see, that's the thing. What what a freaking got me when I was reading the article, you know, they was talking about all these aids   and hearing protection, and   they're shooting at a 10 meter target, which   for for all you non metric people, and I'm mostly non metric, but I know a little metric,   Ten meters is 32.87   feet. I was gonna say it's about 30 feet. Yeah. Yeah. A little over 30 feet, 32.87   because I've got a 10 meter mast. That's how I know this number. But, you know, so   you're looking at 32, 33 feet   and an air pistol.  

A c o 2 powered air pistol.  

[02:09:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Is it really just c o 2?   Is it really I   mean, I mean, that's I mean, that's what's what's what's stopping me. I'm with you on that. If it's a c02 pistol,   why in the hell are they using   using   Earring protection? Using the earring protection like they're shooting shooting a Desert Eagle or something. Right. And now yeah. You need  

[02:09:34] Rich Chelson:

you need fuck it for a 44,   even a 40, a 9.   You need hearing protection.  

[02:09:42] Duuude-Ron :

But Mark 19,   50 cal.  

[02:09:46] Rich Chelson:

My deuce,   you know, 18 War Hog.   You know, I mean, you   you need hearing protection, but, yeah, an air pistol.  

[02:09:56] Bryan Goodwin:

A CO I mean, come on. That's a damn BB gun.  

[02:10:00] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.   In fact, in fact,   you can   either made by, Daisy or Gammo, which Daisy owns Gammo.   They make breakover barrel,   BB rifles or pellet rifles.   Yeah. One one cock.   And they're about as   just under the the loudness of a 22.   Yeah. Why do you need an earring? The the 1313  

[02:10:26] Bryan Goodwin:

to 1500,   feet per second.  

[02:10:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Which I'm gonna add the Which I'm gonna add the Go Go ahead. No. No, dude. Go ahead. What are you gonna say? I'm gonna have to now that we're talking about it, I'm gonna have to actually look it up and and   see if there's anything   on YouTube or what have you about this particular event because, yeah, coming from the military,   come on.   Right. I'm glad he got I'm glad he got second.   You know? But,   yeah, we could you, the the 3 of us, with the military experience we have, probably could be come up and do the same damn thing. Well, I mean, if they're using if they're using,  

[02:11:11] Bryan Goodwin:

using,   now I don't know what size pellet they're using. They're probably using a 177.   You know, point 177,   caliber,   pellet, or they may be using a 22   pellet.   But That's possible.  

[02:11:28] Rich Chelson:

I did. But I I did have a 22 caliber,   air pit air rifle at one time. Yeah. Yeah. I I had a 22  

[02:11:37] Bryan Goodwin:

and used to, I mean, I also had the, had the, I used the 177   most of the time whenever I was, whenever I was running around in the,   in town. You know? Mhmm. Yeah. Same But, hell, we were dropping Tweety birds and and and Grackles down left and right, you know, and   with those guns.   And most of the time, they wouldn't let you get any closer than 30, you know, 30 meters or 10 meters   or any closer than the 30 feet. So   Right.  

[02:12:11] Duuude-Ron :

I'm not And then it was a moving target at that.  

[02:12:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And that's a moving target. So, I mean,   they're ready to fly at the, at a moment's notice, but tell you, sit there.   What'd you find out?  

[02:12:24] Rich Chelson:

It's they're, they're using a,   177   caliber.  

[02:12:32] Bryan Goodwin:

And so, I mean, the hardest thing is is if they've if somebody decided to turn a fan on inside the   blow across the,   the target range.   Right. I mean, that would be the that would be up in the difficulty.   That's about it.  

[02:12:46] Rich Chelson:

So so that's the thing. In in the freaking in the freaking Olympic caliber   shooting,   they use just   air pistols or air rifles.   I   say now the now the actual   rifle,   shooting event,   3 positions in prone,   5.6   millimeter caliber. So just over   just over an M16 basically is what they shoot. Right.   So,   so that's that's a rifle shooting competition. But in a pistol,   it's, yeah, it's an air.  

[02:13:26] Bryan Goodwin:

It's a it's a yeah. It's a it's it's a pellet   gun. Yeah. Yeah. Let me see. It's a small caliber pellet gun on top of that.  

[02:13:36] Rich Chelson:

Right.   See.   I'm I'm I'm   say I'm gonna look if they use c02 or   if they have an air air chamber.   Yeah. Why are they,   yeah, why are they using earring protection?  

[02:13:53] Duuude-Ron :

That's crazy. You know?   It says I just need to I just need to add an adverb   to the Olympics   only because of   the start of my life.   They need to put roller skating,   inline blades,   roller skating   into the Summer Olympics.   If they can have the speed skating for   ice in the Winter Olympics,   why can't they put it   roller skates   in the Summer Olympics?  

[02:14:26] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:14:27] Duuude-Ron :

You know,   I've been to regionals. I've been to nationals   for speed skating,   and that was on quads because they didn't have there was no such thing as roller blades and inline skates.   But, you know, they need   to bring inline speed skating into the Olympics,   long course and short course. Short course would   be a lot more interesting because it's a lot more competitive   or just have short course period. But, you know, I would love to in my lifetimes   see that.   Did I lose y'all?  

[02:15:10] Rich Chelson:

No. No. You're here.   Oh, okay. No. I I was reading, and and, no, you're right. They If I'm here, I was just   I mean I mean, yeah, if they're doing ice skating,   yeah, why not do inline skates?  

[02:15:22] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Yeah. They got skateboards. They got surfing.   Right. Why not roller skates?  

[02:15:29] Rich Chelson:

You know? I know, but that's just me. Dude, write the Olympic Committee and ask them why.   See if you get a response.   Yeah.   You know?   Okay. Check this out.   The, the air pistols used in the Olympics,   they, they say they, they they have to have very little,   recoil or vibration,   which   I mean, I don't see how that would   change on a 10 meter target. But, anyway,   they are powered   by,   either c o 2   or they're prefilled   with air.   So   it's it's it's up to the shooter   as to   if they wanna use air or   and   most of them use prefilled air. They don't use the c o two containers anymore.   So and it can only weigh £3.31.  



[02:16:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Like, you're gonna get much of a fucking recoil from that shit.  

[02:16:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   But okay.   Here's Now I'm gonna Let's compete continue on that. Here are all the Olympic events that are happening.   And tell me if you know what these are.   Acrobatic gymnastics.   We'll probably have a good idea what that one is. Alright? Yeah. Kinda. Yeah. Okay. Another one, this is more winter, but the alpine skiing,   archery,   artistic gymnastics,   artistic swimming.   You know what artistic swimming is?  

[02:17:16] Duuude-Ron :

Nope.   Yeah. That's that,   If I'm thinking,  

[02:17:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Synchronized swimming.  

[02:17:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. That's what I was gonna say. Just couldn't get the words that into my mind.  

[02:17:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, like Now they also have make an appointment. Okay.  

[02:17:33] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, so it's not the same.   Wow.  

[02:17:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it's it's like, it is synchronizing here.   Artistic schedule.   You have duet,   swimming, artistic swimming, which is just 2 people doing synchronized swimming, and then there's team synchronized swimming. So it they just instead of calling it our synchronized swimming, I guess they have a hard time spell spelling synchronized, which I would too. So they they just boil it down to it's artistic swimming. So okay.   Well You have your athletics, which is all the track and field stuff.  

[02:18:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:18:12] Bryan Goodwin:

But there's also badminton.   Now tell me if you know because I'm not a 100% sure. Baseball 5.   Is that 5 people on a field?  

[02:18:23] Rich Chelson:

I don't know.   I baseball 5?   Yeah.   Oh my god.  

[02:18:31] Duuude-Ron :

I hell, I don't know. I've never even heard of that one.  

[02:18:34] Rich Chelson:

The okay. I could see the,   well, you'd need a catcher, a pitcher. There's 2.   You'd have to have 3 people to cover the bases plus the outfield.  

[02:18:46] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. Don't have that field because you're just if you're doing 5, it would be the pitcher, the catcher,   1st base, 2nd base, 3rd base.  

[02:18:55] Duuude-Ron :

What are they doing? Using a waffle ball?  

[02:18:58] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't know. I guess they are. They're use doing like this. They're doing like that. Well, I'm doing like with with with the waffle ball bat. So   I'm on the run. I got cops got my gun. So, anyhow, then they're they've got baseball, softball, which is softball. I don't know why they call it baseball softball, but they do. Then there's basketball. There's 3 3 on 3 basketball.  

[02:19:20] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm. Right. Which is half court.  

[02:19:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. There's handball,   volleyball. There's the biathlon.  

[02:19:28] Rich Chelson:

What's a biathlon?  

[02:19:30] Bryan Goodwin:

That is,   I believe that is prob if I had to guess, I'm it's probably   running. Oh, never mind. That's, that's a winner Olympic   game. That's   biathlon is, 2 contests for joining,   is, roots of survival skills practiced in snow covered forests, Scandinavia, where people would hunt,   hunted on skis with rifles slung over the shoulders. So this is you gotta ski and shoot shit at the same time, which is pretty badass. So yeah. Okay. So that's what bias wants.   Yep. Then there's boxing, which we know.   This one I'm I'm surprised at. I didn't know was a was a, was a an event.   Break dancing.  



[02:20:20] Rich Chelson:

Get out of here.   No. No.   Break dancing?  

[02:20:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. They just call it breaking, but it's yeah. It's break dancing.  

[02:20:30] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.   That's a thing back to the eighties.   Yeah.  

[02:20:37] Duuude-Ron :

Skateboarding   skateboarding and surfing   should not be in the Olympics.   Oh, I agree. Well, what about break dancing, dude? I mean That's what I'm saying. That's one of the 3, in Ron's opinion, shouldn't even be in the Olympics.  

[02:20:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Well, we're just at the b's, man. We're just in the b's. We haven't even got to the rest of the alphabet.   So for the c's, we've got the canoe slalom,   We got the canoe sprint.   We got coastal rolling, rowing.   We've got the world's most confusing game ever known to man, cricket.   There's okay. Was cross country skiing and curling, which is which is winner. Cycling, BMX freestyle,   BMX Racing,   Mountain Biking,   Road Cycling,   and Track Cycling.   You got diving,   equestrian. Gosh, you know, would know how big expensive that'd have to be to bring your horse   to Paris? Yeah. With all the freaking quarantine shit I'm sure you have to do? I bet you they were over here 6 months in advance.  



[02:21:44] Rich Chelson:

Oh, probably were, but no. Hang on. Hang on. Back up.   They   they have   they run a slow on course with canoes.  

[02:21:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, have you did have you not ever seen that?   No. It's actually fascinating to watch them do this because, yeah, it's a slalom course   and and it's go and it's on a it it'll be on a river, and it's usually a Oh, yeah. I have seen that. It's on a it's on a fairly,   swift moving river. It's not it's   not Snake River by any stretch of the imagination.   But it's it's a good moving   river, and they have to hit it. Sometimes if they miss, they have to sit there and swim like a motherfucker to get back up in front of it so they can go through the gate. So yeah. Yeah. There's there's canoe slow on me in a canoe.   In a canoe. What's that? Canoe? Technically   technically, it's a kayak.  



[02:22:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So yeah. You're right. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay.  

[02:22:38] Rich Chelson:

Okay. I I got it then because I'm sitting here thinking of, like, a 10 or  

[02:22:44] Duuude-Ron :

12 foot canoe. Canoe. Yeah. Canoe. Yeah. No. That ain't happening.  

[02:22:48] Rich Chelson:

Dude, that's a challenge. I don't care who you are. That's a challenge   to even   On a on a fairly moving   slow moving river,   sometimes it's hard   to handle a freaking canoe by yourself. A kayak Yeah. That's that's a little better.   Yeah. You know, it's it's got it's got more maneuver  

[02:23:08] Bryan Goodwin:

maneuverability.  

[02:23:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Yeah. And I've and I've watched it. I haven't seen it here because there's not very many   panels   that are even covering the Olympics.  

[02:23:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Not really. Oh, no. Well, it's strictly NBC.  

[02:23:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. R and e.   E is broadcast   you know what?   How many years ago, you're freaking if the Olympics was on, damn near everybody was covering some type of an event   so that, you know, if you didn't wanna see   women's volleyball  

[02:23:47] Bryan Goodwin:

and you wanted to watch I don't know why you wouldn't wanna watch that, but I guess you you there's some goes out there. Let's okay. Let's go to the men's volleyball then. Okay. Yeah. Who cares about that shit? Goddamn.  

[02:23:59] Duuude-Ron :

Right? Okay. So   for for   mixed   doubles,   ping pong,   which I sat and watched that.  

[02:24:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:24:10] Duuude-Ron :

You know, you'd be able to see so many more events,   but 2 freaking channels are covering the all the events for the Olympics. Yeah. Wow.  

[02:24:20] Rich Chelson:

That's you see? And see, that's the thing. I had I had saw something on on the TV   that, it was there was they was interviewing this dude.   I guess he's a concierge or something, but he was saying for, like, the   the last   the last couple Olympics, summer Olympics,   that,   like, 12 years ago,   the ratings   of people   watching the Olympics and coming to the Olympics was, like, at 4%.   And this year, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, like, at 80%.  

[02:24:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And they the Olympics have been suffering with low viewership   for   since the 2000.  

[02:25:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:25:08] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, it's just been going down, down, down, down, down, down, man. Well, you know, this this is this is my personal opinion.  

[02:25:17] Rich Chelson:

When they started allowing   professional athletes   to Yeah.   Play in the Olympics. Because because before growing up,   professional athletes was You could be a professional. Allowed to play. But   but and and the first sport I think they did that in was basketball.  

[02:25:36] Duuude-Ron :

Basketball. That one, they had the dream team. Yeah. That's what killed it for me. Yeah. The dream team. That's what killed it for me because they had all the fucking   top notch professional basketball players in the Olympics. No. The Olympics was designed   for amateur   sport,   nonpaid   athletes.   Who's the best one?  

[02:25:58] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.   But   Yeah. Yeah. And and that's where that's where   because I used to watch some of the Olympics, not all of it, but, you know, some of it, winter and summer because, I mean, I just kinda like, you know, because I watched No. It was it was always interesting. It was it was fun to watch. Yeah. Because   because   these people trained for years   to be the best. You know? Oh. And and   one little slip up, they could wind up being 3rd or whatever. Right. You know, it was just it was a it was it was an actual competition.   And now it's like,   really?  

Yep. You know? Yeah. Yeah. So so, honestly, that's why I ain't even watched any any Yeah.  

[02:26:45] Bryan Goodwin:

You know, and going back to I don't have I don't have over the air television, so I I I don't want I I haven't watched any of it anyhow. So   because I'm not about to go off and, and utilize,   Paramount. Sorry. They   their their way of of of   multilevel tiered,   subscriptions just does not work for me. So but anyhow, so continuing with the events, they have fencing, which is sword fighting, which is awesome. Yep.   Yep.   Then there's flag football   because, you know, you don't wanna be knocking actual heads together.  

[02:27:23] Duuude-Ron :

Why not? Then there's Why not? You do it in rugby.  

[02:27:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no. No. Actually, the actually, rugby is safer than than American football   because they don't wear spats.  

[02:27:38] Rich Chelson:

Excuse me? Well, yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. I know they don't wear pads, but how is But it's safer  

[02:27:45] Bryan Goodwin:

because you know your head is is liable to clunk with another dude's head. So you're going to protect your noodle   a hell of a lot more than if you think you've got all these pads and you're, you're super safe, man.   No. You're going to be if you run into a brick wall with your pad, you're still gonna you're still gonna bounce your skull your brain inside your skull a couple times. Well, true. But but you see, rugby is smear the queer just in  

[02:28:11] Rich Chelson:

in regular form. I mean, I'm on, dude.  

[02:28:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh my god. I had heard that game forever.   Right.   So they've got flag football, and then they've got football, which is soccer.   Then there's also Futsal.   And Futsal is indoor soccer.   They have golf, handball,   there's field hockey,   ice   hockey,   which is, again, winter sport. There's judo,   karate,   lacrosse.   There's marathon swimming.   There's the modern pentathlon,   which is   5 events.   I don't see if they show us what it is.   It's horseback riding, pistol shooting,   looks like running,   fencing,   and swimming is what it looks like to me.  

[02:29:13] Rich Chelson:

There's running involved, and I'm out.  

[02:29:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. I I agree.   So   see, there's the rhythmic gymnastics.   There you go. Ron, why are you not watching this?   Roller speed skating.  

[02:29:32] Rich Chelson:

What?  

[02:29:33] Duuude-Ron :

It hasn't fucking been on.  

[02:29:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Roller speed skating is a fast paced discipline with some athletes reaching speeds of up to 50 kilometers an hour. And the basics roller speed skating convinced are usually held outdoor and occasionally indoor, rinks with banked,   with banked walls or on a closed road circuit. A maximum of 5 wheels are allowed on inline skates, athletes, where the wheels cannot exceed,   diameters of a 110 millimeters. For marathon   only, skates can have a 125   millimeter,   diameter wheels.   No brakes are allowed.   Constant jostling,   for a favorite position combined with mass start,   velodrome like walls, and 200 meter tracks makes for building competition and often decided by photo finishes.  



[02:30:21] Duuude-Ron :

So what? The And they have never   broadcasted   the roller   rollerblade   skating ever   in the Olympics if they had it broadcasted.  

[02:30:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Because And you don't want the 1st roller speed skating world championship was held?  

[02:30:41] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[02:30:43] Bryan Goodwin:

It was held in manza,   Italy in   1937.  

[02:30:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.  

[02:30:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I The following year,   London hosted the 1938   track roller speed skating world championship.   And at the Olympic   summer games at Barcelona in 92, rink hockey   played on a quad on quad skates, was a demonstration sport. It marked the first time athletes on roller skates competed on the Olympic stage.  

[02:31:14] Duuude-Ron :

92. That was   19 90 They have you know what? And they have never broadcasted   any   speed skating in the Olympics ever.  

[02:31:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Dude, I'd be right about it. Now if you had your podcast, you know what you could be? Alright. You could be media, and you could have been been, covering it.   Yep. You could've been. You could've. You you might've even been able to get paid by NBC to go over there to be, to to talk to the, talk to the rollerbladers.  

[02:31:43] Rich Chelson:

Dude,   you've got 4 years till the next one.  

[02:31:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Get going.  

[02:31:49] Rich Chelson:

Get your podcast up. Get it going, man. You've got 4 years.   We can do this,  

[02:31:55] Duuude-Ron :

man. Hey. So And where is the next Olympics supposed to be held at?  

[02:32:00] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't know. I don't know.   See, but there's also rowing   and rugby sevens,   which is, I guess, 7 person rugby.  

[02:32:10] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[02:32:11] Bryan Goodwin:

There is   sailing, shooting.   I hit a button.   Short track speed skating, which I guess is probably yeah. That's that's that's that's when an Olympic. Yeah. That's when an Olympic.   They're skateboarding,   and this is weird. What is skeleton?   Skeleton? Like the bones? Skeleton racing involves plummeting head first down a steep patric oh, it's a nice track. Oh, it's it's the way we normally go down on sleds.  

[02:32:41] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But   it's nor the normal way that we go down on sleds.   No. They don't. They go feet feet first.  

[02:32:50] Bryan Goodwin:

No. But it it says   skeleton racing involves plummeting head first   down a steep and treacherous ice track on a tiny sled. It is considered the first world's 1st sliding sport.  

[02:33:03] Rich Chelson:

That's 5,000,000 kids every winter. Come on now. Exactly.  

[02:33:08] Duuude-Ron :

I mean You know, that's that's the toboggan?   Yeah. That's a toboggan track that they're gonna be. Yeah. I'd be yeah. I knew about the skeleton, Grayson.  

[02:33:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. So there's also sport climbing,   squash,   surfing, and swimming, so the competitive swimming.   There's also the table tennis,   kuai tondo, which which is what my daughter used to call,   taekwondo,   tennis   trampoline.   Really? Trampoline. Apparently, that one's a new one because they haven't talked about the history of that. You got   triathlon, which is the running, swimming,   biking.   Yeah. You got volleyball,   water polo, weight lifting, wrestling, and what the hell is Wushu?  

[02:33:56] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. But but I've always wondered on the water polo,   do the horses drown?  

[02:34:03] Bryan Goodwin:

I think so because I never see them. Right. Me neither.  

[02:34:07] Rich Chelson:

You know, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've been, I've, I've heard about water polo, but   I only know polo's done on horses. So  

[02:34:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. See, the problem is you guys are thinking too big.   You know how small   the,  

[02:34:23] Rich Chelson:

So they use Shetland Ponies?  

[02:34:25] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. No. They use the what's the the,   the horse fish? What are the hell are they called? I got a complete blank. On the seahorses?   Yeah.   They're on the seahorses.  

[02:34:39] Rich Chelson:

That's how they do. Okay. Thank you. Too big.  

[02:34:43] Duuude-Ron :

They're on the few horses,   but, see, you can't see them because the humans are too big.  

[02:34:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay.   Now why they don't call it this is beyond me, but   wushu   is the Chinese   word for   kung fu.  

[02:35:03] Rich Chelson:

Oh, because wushu is a is a is a,   I'd say a discipline  

[02:35:09] Bryan Goodwin:

of kung fu. Is it Chinese martial art that combines the techniques and forms of many traditional and modern Chinese martial arts, including   Shaolin, kung fu, Tai Chi, and,   Wu Dang Quan. The term literally translates martial technique in Chinese and originated in China 1000 of years ago. Wushu is also known as kung fu in the west.  

[02:35:31] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, they yeah. It's just  

[02:35:35] Bryan Goodwin:

So if you were watching kung fu in in China, David Carradine's char you know, with David Carradine's character, just be called Wushu.  

[02:35:43] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[02:35:46] Bryan Goodwin:

I like kung fu better.  

[02:35:49] Duuude-Ron :

Or say that's like Or if you're Jackie Chan, it's,   oh, shit. Just fucking had it.   I am. Kung Pao Chicken? No.   Damn it.  

[02:36:06] Rich Chelson:

Act actually, Kung Pao Chicken's pretty good.  

[02:36:09] Duuude-Ron :

No. It wasn't one of the Jack of Chance movies   where he hits the guy in the toe and flips him over.   Yeah. I can't remember what the hell they called it.   Okay. I'll just shut up now.  

[02:36:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Continue on.   So   so yeah. Yeah. There is rollerblading   in in the Summer Olympics today. There you go, man. You know what? I'm going to have to research that  

[02:36:35] Duuude-Ron :

so I can watch it  

[02:36:37] Bryan Goodwin:

because I'll tell you Oh, hell, look. Let me let me bring that up real quick and I'll tell you if they have already ran or if they're going to be running.  

[02:36:48] Rich Chelson:

We need to get your podcast up and going, man. You've got 4 years We can get you to the Olympic   to watch   the,   the,   roller skating.  

[02:37:00] Duuude-Ron :

You can meet That would be badass.  

[02:37:03] Rich Chelson:

Dude, that would be awesome.   That would be freaking awesome. And about  

[02:37:09] Duuude-Ron :

30 years ago   no.   Yeah.   40 years ago.   40 year 40 plus years ago. Man, that would have been fun to go actually participate.  

[02:37:23] Rich Chelson:

Oh, guess what?   The 2028 Summer Olympics?   LA.   It's coming to a year ago.   Oh. Yep.  

[02:37:37] Bryan Goodwin:

They're gonna have to do a lot of work to get all the bums cleared out then, Ray.  

[02:37:43] Duuude-Ron :

And let me ask you this. If they're gonna have   the Summer Olympics in LA,   where the hell are they gonna do surfing at? Hawaii?  

[02:37:52] Rich Chelson:

No. No. They'll they'll surf right there on the coast, dude.   Oh, yeah.   No.   You can surf in LA   or down towards San Diego or something. Oh, yeah. They they've got some gnarly waves down there. Oh, do they? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I know surfing started  

[02:38:13] Duuude-Ron :

1 in Hawaii.   You know, Surfer USA was, yeah, out in California, but, you know  

[02:38:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Competitions  

[02:38:24] Duuude-Ron :

on them. But do Just in Hawaii.  

[02:38:28] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Yeah. No. No. But,   dude, check this out, man. Rock your podcast. Get it built up for,   you know, in 4 years.   Shit. You're in LA for the fucking Olympics. How awesome would that be?   Yeah. And and you can   you can meet   all the girls that come from different countries   that, that I don't speak good English or whatnot do.   That's a win win, man.  

[02:39:03] Duuude-Ron :

Oh god. You're killing me.   Don't get my fucking hopes up that damn fucking high. Jeez.   Dude I am an old man.  

[02:39:16] Rich Chelson:

I don't have any more nitro pills, so I can't help you.  

[02:39:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. But   you know, well, I don't need help there, but,   well, I do and I don't.   But, you know, I'm an old man and yeah. No.   I'd probably get in. Well,   we'll just stop right there. Okay. You know?  

[02:39:39] Rich Chelson:

But, I would I would think about it, man. In 4 years, your freaking roller skating podcast,   get your media kit up,   Send it off to the Olympic,   committee and get some media creds.  

[02:39:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Find out which, which broadcast.   Is it ABC, NBC, or CBS? It's gonna be,   be covering the, covering the Olympics that that time.   Hell, yeah, man. I'd be going alright. Hey. By the way, I'm the number 1 podcast on on on roller skating. I would like to be your,   like to cover your the, the,   cover the rollers, the speed roller skate skating   event,   for y'all.   Would you allow me to do that? Hey, Brian.  

[02:40:25] Rich Chelson:

Dude could go as his own media person.  

[02:40:29] Bryan Goodwin:

And then and then Yeah. But if you're wanting to if you're wanting to play any of the, any of the any of the episodes on your on, like,   on your,   on your channel or whatever?   Well, yeah. He would need permission, but but he see they no. Well, I mean, but NBC, like, like, right now and this is kinda goes back to what,   to what dude was saying   in that   they have got an exclusive   broadcast   rights.   So if you Okay. Like, like the atrocious opening,   opening cell,   celebration event that they had.  

[02:41:10] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I hear you.  

[02:41:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Event about the about the last supper and all?  

[02:41:16] Duuude-Ron :

You know, I've I've seen blippets on it, but we were down at the tears event, so there was no TV. But Right. Yeah. I'd I've seen and saw blippets of it. It's like,   what the hell   are these fucking people thinking?  

[02:41:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Well and that's just it. You can't   find that on it on,   you can't find   any   video of that.  

[02:41:45] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[02:41:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Because   when you do,   NBC's taking it down.  

[02:41:53] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.  

[02:41:55] Duuude-Ron :

They should've never worn it. You. They're not  

[02:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:

going well, we'll take your we'll take your revenue. This no. Take it down. I mean, they're do doing a full DMCA is what I'm understanding.   Wow.  

[02:42:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So based upon the one picture that I did see,   that shit,   and I didn't know it was the last the setting of the last supper.  

[02:42:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, they they I'm trying to say that it's it's   with all they've changed the story a couple three times, but I'm sorry. When you got fat   with with with making the heart with her hands, and she's got the the divinity,   light coming from behind the head.   I'm sorry.   We know what you're aiming for.  

[02:42:42] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And they wanna have that shit, but not let to have the surfer   have a picture of the dude as far as fucking board. Well, yeah. Because you're going against what they want.   Yeah. They're fucking hypocrites.  

[02:42:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They do the Actually, they're not hypocrites. They are being very   anti   everybody anti Christian with that.   Well, true. They're they're sticking to their guns. They're we're staying anti Christian. You can't be a we're so anti Christian, you can't be Christian. If you wanna look at it that way, if that's actually what was the intention I don't know if that's what the intention of the, of the opening ceremonies were.   That's what it looks like because you have fat Jesus chick,   you know, standing there with a heart in her hand. It's, make out her hands. And   and they're all   leaning   similarly   to the to the the 12 apostles   at the Last Supper painting.  

And that you'll hear people sitting there stomping around, screaming, going, well, it's all about the bacchanalia. It's from Greece. And it's like, okay. That could very well be   why   why,   you know, Da Vinci painted it the way he did.   I mean, we don't, I mean, we can go off and make assumptions on everything. That's one of the great things about art is we can we can make it mean anything we want.  

[02:44:09] Rich Chelson:

Yes. We can.  

[02:44:12] Bryan Goodwin:

But at the same time, I mean, you look at it and it matches,   it matches too closely   for   what the Last Supper was. Now, is it supposed to really be a bacchanalia?   Okay. Well, then why did you have   the divine   fat person stand as, you know, standing there in the middle in Christ's spot? Why not have, you know,   just the mass chaos hedonism that was that it's supposed to be showing   as a bacchanalia?  

[02:44:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:44:46] Bryan Goodwin:

So, you know Oh. I mean, it it I I see where the I see where the Christians are getting upset at,   and I'm more leaning more to their side. But at the same time,   you know, I have no idea. I I really don't   have any idea of what was actually being thought of.   Was there really malice in in their minds when they were trying when they were setting this all up?   Who knows? I I have no idea. I don't know the I don't know the guy who created it from Adam. So, I mean  

[02:45:22] Duuude-Ron :

In Ron's opinion yeah. It was in Ron's opinion, it was malice.  

[02:45:27] Bryan Goodwin:

It's malice?  

[02:45:29] Rich Chelson:

But, hey, I just had a thought.  

[02:45:33] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-oh.   Wait.   What?  

[02:45:36] Rich Chelson:

That's I had a thought. Move. And it Holy  

[02:45:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.  

[02:45:41] Rich Chelson:

And it Don't let go. Includes you. It includes you.  

[02:45:44] Duuude-Ron :

Nothing What the fuck do I do now?  

[02:45:48] Rich Chelson:

Well, nothing yet. But what we're fixing   fixing Good. What what we're fixing to get you to do see,   we get dude running this podcast. Right?   And and in 2028,   when it's in LA,   he goes out to LA, and he doesn't do any other broadcast, so he doesn't have to mess with them and see. He just interviews   the skaters from around the world. And Right. Oh my god. And just think of globally what the hell that would do.   And then and then the sponsors,   you could probably   get it from skates or, you know, from different countries and shit like that. Yeah. The International Skating Association or whatever. Roller skating association.   I mean,   dude would be just like on top of the world. I mean,  

[02:46:36] Bryan Goodwin:

you can probably almost do it without it without it costing you a red cent.  

[02:46:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We can. And you know what and you know what would be really funny for the dude?   What's that? If if he gets out there on his quad because I don't have roller blade. I don't I used to have speed skating   blades.   5 wheeled,   117   millimeter   wheels.   I yeah. Carbon fiber   boots? Yeah. I had a pair of those. I'm too old for that shit, but I got some squad.  

[02:47:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Dude, take your breath. But I got some squad. Too bad.  

[02:47:16] Duuude-Ron :

I got some quad, you know, and interview them while they're, you know, get out on the rink and interview them. They have their speed skates because they're speed skates. But see, I would have the old school   quad speed skates.   Yep. And all I have to do is pull them out of my,   closet.  

[02:47:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Dude. Yep. I see. And watch that watch them as you're sitting there just skate backwards beating them as they're trying to keep up with you.  

[02:47:42] Rich Chelson:

You. Oh, that'd be funny. I'd love I'd love to hilarious.   Oh, it would. But but you see, that's the thing. You know, I'd because I didn't know roller skating was in the Olympics.   I mean, that's God. That there there is so much right there. You can meet people from all over the world, dude. I'm telling you. You would be a freaking hit.   You would be a hit. I'm telling you, man,   you just have to get a newer computer.  

[02:48:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Now he probably get someone to be a be a computer sponsor for his computer.   Alienware,   sponsor the official roller blade.  

[02:48:22] Rich Chelson:

But but see see, that's the thing, dude. You know, if you wanted to do that,   I could drive out to Texas and and   set you up.  

[02:48:32] Bryan Goodwin:

And and And help you and help you walk through it about 30 times so you got it down pat   before you know it. You'd just be sitting there being just   Yep. And off you go. You   and it's considered your attention to detail with doing your pre trips and stuff. Hell, you'd end up having it all worked out, know what you're looking for, and you see that little blip in the in the waveform and go, oh, that's a that's a We're gonna get rid of that.  

[02:48:58] Duuude-Ron :

And you you  

[02:49:00] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. Brian, real quick while I'm thinking about it. Have you up have you updated Audacity yet?  

[02:49:12] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, their last update they had.   If they if it's done been within the last,   2 weeks,   then, no, I haven't because   I haven't,   I mean, I I know that they've got the last update they had, all of a sudden, you  

[02:49:27] Rich Chelson:

choose where you wanna save your your files at. You can choose either upload it to No. You need to update to the new one. They've got 3.6 out. Oh my god. It looks so much better. And they've added   and and they've added Muse,   which  

[02:49:42] Bryan Goodwin:

you can get effects for free. You can get Yeah. Songloop. Yeah. I've got that one. Yeah. Where they do they really simplified,   clear cleaned up the, the interface?  

[02:49:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, it's I love it. I I   fired up my computer in it, and I opened up Audacity. It says 3.6.   Wanna download it? Well, fuck. Yeah.   So I did. And,   oh, yeah. I'm like, damn. This is nice.   Yeah. I mean, I mean, we can make our own jingles,   you know?  

[02:50:15] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   So now break it down to the stupid person. What the hell is Audacity?  

[02:50:21] Bryan Goodwin:

It's Audacity. A is an audio editing program. Mhmm. So you can take audio and you can edit it. You can make it sound crisper, cleaner. You can you can   manipulate the audio to where it you can make it, and make it a lot brighter, a lot,   give it a bigger bottom if you wanted to. You Simply put simply put, our podcast  

[02:50:44] Rich Chelson:

gets run through Audacity   every week.  

[02:50:47] Bryan Goodwin:

It's yeah. It it's it's,   a good way another way I've I've heard people describe it is it's a word processor for audio files.  

[02:50:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. You can cut, split,   move shit around,   add effects, add sounds, add music,   you know, take out filler words. It's   it it seems scary, but it's actually really easy.  

[02:51:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. First couple times first for the first three weeks, you look at it, you're going, oh, shit. What the hell is this? What am I looking at? Yeah. After that and and and, best of all, it's free.  

[02:51:25] Rich Chelson:

It's free.   So.   So, yeah, it works really, really well. Absolutely.  

[02:51:31] Bryan Goodwin:

So anyhow  

[02:51:32] Duuude-Ron :

I guess one day I'll have to get a computer.  

[02:51:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yep. You'll have to. Yep. Well, maybe look. I might I might have a spare one once I get everything unloaded.  

[02:51:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. He may he may have found 13 other ones. So Well, I I've got I've got 2 laptops, a tablet,  

[02:51:51] Rich Chelson:

my big computer,   and I've got another smaller one.  

[02:51:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:51:57] Rich Chelson:

One is about,   like,   that big.   And and   so I might be doing some switching around with my, you know, with my ham radio setup   and,   my main computer and laptops and stuff. So   just hang on, Ron.  

[02:52:15] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So I'll Alright. I'll get with you. So anyhow   I'll get with you about that in the computer.  

[02:52:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.   So, guys, alright. We're let's go ahead and let's let's get this, this baby landed. So we are   this show is a   well, first off, this episode was a completely different style of episode than what we're usually used to having.   So A lot of fun. Yeah. We're not bit confused there at the beginning. That's fine. We're good. We're all it's alright. It's all kosher. Yeah. Yeah. You you caught a little bit of behind the scenes stuff there in the middle. So it it's all good. We're just kinda flying by the seat of our pants again because we you know, and we're without, without a show for a couple weeks. And   we're we're just got things that have happened, and things are busy, and life just kinda comes along, and that's all good. But anyhow, so guys, this show is a value for value show. It's also ran as a podcasting 2.0,   show. So you've got blog roles, so you can see what blog what they're not blog roles, but, pod roles, which are,   a means that you can actually look and see, hey. What type of podcast do we listen to?  

But we also   this is also the ability for us to,   to go live. And a lot of times, we do go live. It's just Rich is, at the moment, he is out and about   and, and getting houses,   sold and houses bought. So he is busier in a one arm paper hanger.   And so he's he's not able to be at his house at this week, so we just didn't do a a a live stream. I wasn't at I wasn't at the office, so I could do a live stream.   And so, yeah, we're we're we're out, we're out here,   out in the middle of, of nowhere. And   so, yeah, we were just doing the, the recorded show and getting it all cut up, paste it up, and slapped up onto, onto our media host so that it comes to you live and in person on,   coming, coming on Mondays.  

So but anyhow, one of the great things about podcasting 2.0 is the ability for you to give us   give us a a   a donation   for our hard work. You'd like this show to be able to continue   to arrive in your,   in your in your podcast player of choice,   a a donation   is one way of helping us do so. Another way is also you can provide some some time. Maybe you are good at,   at doing some mentoring or doing some, some moderating when we'd start doing, getting a, getting some different,   means of communication and and,   community building.   Maybe you're you're good at that, you would like to be able to help us in in that way, then, hey. That's one way we can do this. We   love to be able to let our our,   our fans and and   the those folks help us to grow, grow the show. Or if you're very talented in some way, then you can actually   provide your talents in some way. Maybe you're good at,   website building or maybe you're good at, at graphic design   or maybe you're good at, I don't know, talking a 100 miles an hour and you make really kick ass jingles.  

Doesn't matter. You can   create those and send them over to us, and we're gonna use them. And that's one of the great things about,   podcasting 2.0 is that we can allow we allow things to come in. And you can also do things like boostergrams. You send over a boostergram. We're gonna read the boostergram to you live in person if you wanna  

[02:55:51] Rich Chelson:

get reach out to us, you can also do that by sending us emails.  

[02:55:53] Bryan Goodwin:

You can send over to rich@orchelson@gmaildot   com or me, that is circlecast, that's circlecast,   [email protected].   Both of those will get to us. And then if you wanna get a hold of, the dude, then shoot it to either one of us, and we'll send it over to dude because he's got a he's got a really complex,   email address that,   that it it it confused   Einstein whenever you first time heard it. So   so we,   we we try not to let that one leak too terribly much. So but anyhow,   guys, love that everything that you're doing, and we're gonna be getting ourselves back onto our regularly scheduled, program again.   And, start having live shows once more. It's just once every once the dust got all kinda settled. So, Ron, do you have anything in particular you wanna save for the as a good night?  



[02:56:44] Duuude-Ron :

You know, the,   only thing that as I always say,   if you know a veteran that is,   not doing too well   and has   a suicidal thoughts,   please reach out to them.   Talk to them.   And but if you don't wanna talk to them,   reference them to,   what is it, 811, guys?  

[02:57:09] Rich Chelson:

91,   988   and press 1. 88.  

[02:57:13] Duuude-Ron :

988.   1. And and press 1   and get them some help because   we have entirely too many veterans   that are committing suicide on a day to day basis   over   yes. Life is difficult. Trust me. I know. Going through what I'm going through in life right now. But you know what? It is not worth   a final conclusion.  

[02:57:43] Rich Chelson:

That's  

[02:57:44] Bryan Goodwin:

right. So That's exactly right.  

[02:57:49] Duuude-Ron :

And be nice.  

[02:57:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Be nice. Be nice. Exactly. That's a good way to put it. So and, Rich, what do you got to say is closing shots?  

[02:57:59] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know,   honestly,   send us an email and let us know what you wanna hear or what you like, what you don't like about the show because, I mean, we would love some feedback from y'all,   you know, because, I mean, we're just   doing what we do and, you know, we know some of the subjects we talk about isn't   always up to par with everybody. But then again, we're not up to par with everybody either. So,   but no, other than that, just, you know, thank you for listening.   And,   you know, if if you do like this show,   you know, drop us a line and just say, hey, keep rolling or y'all suck. I don't care.  

I'll still read it on the air.   You know? I'm not scared. But,   but, yeah, just just, you know,   be kind to people because you never know,   what the other person's going through.  

[02:58:56] Bryan Goodwin:

You have no idea. This is coming from 2 grumpy vets too. So this is, you know, this is something I wanted to have. Running running running titles. Be nice to everyone.  

[02:59:08] Rich Chelson:

Dang. That is weird because, yeah, normally, I'm I'm freaking grumpy as hell. But, anyway, no. I just I just I just wanna say thank you for listening. Keep listening. Share it out.   And, yeah, in a couple weeks, we will be back to our regularly scheduled program.   And,   but, I do like this format we did tonight. I I liked it a lot.  

[02:59:31] Bryan Goodwin:

So so but alright. Well, we'll keep we'll keep trying to that hop to see what else we get. So   Okay. We'll just take it we'll just take the topics that I come across, and we'll just use them as as emergency fodder of case for circle   on.   So  

[02:59:48] Rich Chelson:

That happens a lot sometimes. That's what happens sometimes. This hour of night. So  

[02:59:54] Bryan Goodwin:

so anyhow, guys, alright. So we'll go ahead, and we'll let you all go. Thanks again for listening to this to the great   episode that we have put out. And if you have any comments, questions, or whatever, you know how to get ahold of us. You can send it over   to circle cast@gmailorrchelson@gmail   and or send us a boostgram. Any of those, love to hear from you. So guys, till then, till next week. Y'all take care, and we will see y'all then.   Till then,   bye.  

[03:00:25] Duuude-Ron :

See you.   See you. Alright, guys. Catch you later. Yeah. Alright. Later. Talk to you later. Bye.