Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

Share on social media:

In this action-packed episode of 2 Grumpy Vets, Brian, Rich, and the Dude dive into a myriad of topics, starting with a fascinating historical tidbit about Harriet Tubman. The episode takes a humorous turn as technical difficulties arise, leading to a candid discussion about the challenges of live streaming. Rich shares his travel plans to the Stubborn American Rally, and the conversation shifts to the geopolitical landscape, including the G7's controversial financial decisions and their implications for the global economy. The hosts also touch on the ongoing debate about the use of certain words and their societal impact. Rich provides an update on his house-hunting journey, and the episode wraps up with a nostalgic look at the good old days and a heartfelt message about supporting veterans and first responders. Tune in for a blend of humor, insight, and camaraderie that only the 2 Grumpy Vets can deliver.

If you are struggling with life please reach out to The Suicide Life Line - Dial 988
The world needs you here. 

[00:00:00] Duuude-Ron :

I got so many people fighting in my mind.   It it's like the freaking,   WWE   SmackDown.  

[00:00:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy fence and, dude. I'm your host, Brian. I'm here with Rich and the dude, and we have got a action packed, fun filled, completely different sugar coat than what we had last week because we've added a couple elements. We are live. We are lit. We are going great, strong, and amazing.   And, guys, I am here to let you know there is one amazing fact that I learned today, and that is that Harriet Tubman   was alive both   around the time that Thomas Jefferson was around   and Ronald Reagan, which is an interesting little tidbit when you get around to thinking about it. That'll bend your mind for a little while. So, Rich, how are you doing today?  

[00:00:53] Rich Chelson:

Well, I'm doing pretty good. I'm not sure how how how that's gonna come out, Brian, because I just,   I didn't hear anything you said on the starting.   Just saying. Hey.   Alright. Well, we'll just Yeah. I mean, it all broke up, and you just cut right out and stayed right out. Of course. Of course. So that's why we're all  

[00:01:12] Bryan Goodwin:

show up. So alright. Well, we'll we'll  

[00:01:15] Rich Chelson:

we'll figure it out. We'll we'll this test it? I That's What's the test call, Ted? Hear what you said.  

[00:01:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Nothing. I'm just saying it's a test. He's saying it's a test.  

[00:01:27] Duuude-Ron :

He did a,  

[00:01:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Richie did broadcast. Can you hear me? I I can hear you. We can all hear you. We may just have to go off and just be doing turn turn our videos off.   So  

[00:01:38] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Rich, do you around? And I can hear And I can hear Rich the whole time.  

[00:01:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. No. I can hear Rich too. Yeah. I'm here. I'm Okay.  

[00:01:46] Rich Chelson:

Okay. I no. No. No. No. I was just saying, because, you know, you started and I was listening, and then it just cut out. And I was I was looking over at the meters, and   I wasn't seeing anything.  

[00:01:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, we'll have to we'll have to see   second. So   but, yeah, we'll we'll we'll just have to see how the, how the the, the the the bill shows up, whenever we get the download   and, and see if it's,   if it's a hot burning dumpster fire, then sweet.   If it's not, sweet. And we'll just we'll we'll just run with it. We know from now on. You know?   Yeah. And from now on, if we if we are our,   if we're   if we're,   gonna go live, we'll have to make sure that,   that that King Rich is, is is planted firmly at his house instead of about and about roaming the countryside. So what are you doing roaming around on the countryside?  

[00:02:43] Rich Chelson:

Well, I'm I'm, actually,   on my way to,   Springdale, Arkansas,   and then, I'm a wind up in Oklahoma,   for the stubborn American rally next week. And so what's,  

[00:02:57] Bryan Goodwin:

so that, the stubborn, stubborn American, that is,   Adam Sandoval,   and his his,   his   event. Right? And am I the one that's locked up? Okay. Rich is locked up. No. I don't. Yeah. Rich is locked up. Yeah. This is Adam Sandoval's,  

[00:03:17] Duuude-Ron :

campground.   So, yeah, it's it's, it's pretty good bike or, biker rally   at, his campground.  

[00:03:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.   Hey, Rich. If you could hear me, go ahead and just kill the,   video feed, and,   and, we'll we'll try that again, at a later date when we have a more steady connection.  

[00:03:36] Duuude-Ron :

And we lost him. Oh, we lost Rich?   Yeah. Oh, man.  

[00:03:40] Bryan Goodwin:

My gosh. We Rich is becoming like us now.  

[00:03:43] Duuude-Ron :

No care. You know, or at least becoming like me.   You know, I'm I'm always dot com.   I'm always Chinese cellular.  

[00:03:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, hell yeah.  

[00:03:58] Duuude-Ron :

You know, so that that's not that's nothing new to me. You know? I I'm you I'm used to getting dropped like a a hot rock   or a hot potato   or whatever you wanna   call it   these days.  

[00:04:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it's our first test. Our first test didn't go too well.  

[00:04:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. We're kinda rich.   We kinda failed it, man. Completely went,  

[00:04:22] Bryan Goodwin:

well, it's   it happens. I just wonder why Rich all of a sudden can't get online at all. Probably because probably because he has too many windows open.  

[00:04:34] Duuude-Ron :

And his computer just just his computer just said just finally said, you know what? I got ruined my shit on my mind. I'm gonna do a brain dump and say, fuck this shit.   I'm just   I'm out.  

[00:04:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Rich is like, I just got kicked out of everything.  

[00:04:58] Duuude-Ron :

You know what? I wonder how I wonder how many cuss words he has said by now.  

[00:05:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, he is he's he's  

[00:05:07] Duuude-Ron :

right?  

[00:05:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. He's he's probably said a few. So I  

[00:05:12] Duuude-Ron :

bet you his head is   pretty exploded,   and   he is so   pissed off right now.   When he gets back on here, oh, man. He you're gonna hear the difference of his tone   of his voice, he is gonna be so freaking ticked off.   Yeah. We're gonna have to come up with a jingle that's epic rant  

[00:05:37] Bryan Goodwin:

and just let him go.  

[00:05:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No kidding.  

[00:05:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, the land. He got kicked off of everything. Apparently, he has because, heck, he still ain't on.  

[00:05:48] Duuude-Ron :

Let's see. He might just have to do what I'm on and just go on the phone tonight   as long as he has to their service.   But, again, I don't know where he's at.   He's in he I know he said it, but I can't don't remember the town he's in in Arkansas. Remember exactly. Yeah. He just he just   die of Little Rock because I asked him if he went to   stay at the,   the,   Wheeling Park, the or or the, Obi's   what the hell is it?   Yes.   It's the Wheeling Park in, Little Rock.   Great park.   I put it on I put it on   for all the wheel for all the parks that I have gone wheeling with on my Jeep.   Uh-huh. And I've done and I've done probably   10   different parks.  

The 1 the ORV park in Little Rock is   number 2   right below Moab.  

[00:06:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay. That's cool.  

[00:06:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Their park is   They got all their trails   very well marked. Their map is,   I mean,   spot on   to the trails.  

[00:06:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[00:06:59] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is. Yeah. It is really good.   And they they have awesome.   They have some true level fives and sixes. There was one I mean, I wouldn't you couldn't pay me.   2 of them, you cannot pay me to take my Jeep on.   Ain't no way.  

[00:07:20] Bryan Goodwin:

2 degrees past vertical.  

[00:07:22] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Pretty much.   Pretty much.   There was one of them. You you better have a good,   at least   25 mile an hour,   head of steam   before you hit that hill   or you will not make it.  

[00:07:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, hell.  

[00:07:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. That's one of their number sixes.   So   I've watched I've watched the jeeps go up it, but I'm not gonna play on it my damn self.   No. That's okay.  

[00:07:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Nah. Nah. Gotta do it. Would be prudent at this   juncture.  

[00:07:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No way.   Shit. My last adventure when I broke something, it was $1200   in parts plus labor   because I had to replace the, drag link and the tie rod   Oh, wow. On the Jeep because I bent both of them.  

[00:08:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, it's not usually not a good thing to bend.  

[00:08:16] Duuude-Ron :

You know, in the factory   drag link and tie rod,   they're just they are not made for wheeling.   The now Right. Day to day operations   out on the streets and on the highways,   not a   problem. But they are not designed   to go wheeling.   So when I bent those, yeah, I got the,   I don't remember the brand that I got, but   the wall, the thickness of the the tie rod is probably   4 times   the thickness as   the original manufacturing parts.   So I won't bend my tie rod again. I'll start breaking heim joints and start breaking stuff,   you know, that's bolted   to the Jeep   and to the,   to the front tires. I won't bend that rod. Wow.  

Yeah.  

[00:09:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Nah. You wanna bend it at all?  

[00:09:19] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. It will not bend it off. I don't know if you send it Rich, are we back on?  

[00:09:25] Rich Chelson:

I think so. Am I back on?  

[00:09:27] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm hearing you. That's the important parts.  

[00:09:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I I can hear you as well. Okay. Can you hear me, Rich?  

[00:09:33] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Yes. I can hear you, Ron.   Okay. Bye. What I did is is   so so what I did   is,   apparently, we're still streaming on Twitch,   but I cut out,   but.   So,   went out live on a fountain app because apparently   my wifi on my phone can't handle all of that at once.  

[00:09:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I was gonna say you won't just go on ahead and just we can just kill the,   kill the,   the the the streaming, the video portion because that's gonna be a hell of a lot more data than than the audio.   So but so if you went ahead and do killed the butt, we, we're all live on Twitch, then we'll just hold that.  

[00:10:17] Rich Chelson:

Well, nah. I mean, I don't know because I, I mean, I, I killed butt a few minutes ago and, and   sometimes this, this drops out, but it still shows it's streaming on Twitch.   I don't know. I mean, yeah, you're right. I am not,   at my regular place.  

[00:10:36] Bryan Goodwin:

No.  

[00:10:37] Duuude-Ron :

So how many we we were me and Brian were were taking bets on to see how many,   cuss words you said during your time frame that you're off the, net.   So   how how pissed off are you?  

[00:10:53] Rich Chelson:

No. I'm good. I I I didn't, I just I just I just was sitting here just   stone place, like,  

[00:11:00] Duuude-Ron :

you know, when My ass. It's Yeah. My app.   I mean  

[00:11:06] Rich Chelson:

You you have a few choice words. You no. No. Seriously, you see, because out   no, no, no. Out here on the road, I expect shitty Internet.   I expect it. And   I mean, it's like,   you know, I   wish I I mean,   I've stayed in enough motels to where I've gotten shitty Internet, and I couldn't hardly use it. I mean,   at least at least I have my phone as a backup right now.   So   we'll just see what happens there.  

[00:11:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. So   I love these inaugural runs, though. They're always the one work all the bugs out. Learn the thing or 2 or 5 about,   about trying to stream stream all through, through cellular networks. So it's no way now. Hey. Ain't gonna happen.  

[00:11:54] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, bueno.  

[00:11:58] Bryan Goodwin:

So anyhow, so as we were talking about, Rich, you were, you're you're,   you're you're out on a trip,   down to to,   down to down to Oaky Land.   And   you know, you know, you gotta go hang out with Adam, say, in the hall. And  

[00:12:13] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I he, has a motorcycle rally, and and it's open to everybody. I mean, you don't have to have a motorcycle.   You can show up in your car or a Jeep or whatever. It don't matter. But,   it's it's just called being a stubborn American, basically   saying,   screw it. We're gonna do what we want. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna party,   drink beer,   you know?   And and it's, 20th through 23rd.   And, there's   there's events during the day, different events. I got,   mini bike races and, and, whoever wins gets to keep the mini bike.   They have,   wet t shirt contest.  

They have,   Jell O wrestling, I think. God, how many gallons of Jell O would that have to be? Discriminate. I'm   not sure. I'm not sure. I It's better coleslaw.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right. Last year was coleslaw.   Yeah. I can't, I can't remember what, what Adam said, how many gallons of coleslaw, but   now there's there's just events every day. There's food vendors.   And then there's DJ, which   last year was Operation Tears of the 22. And this year, it's gonna be we were asked to come back and DJ that event this year.   So that's why I'm   not in Southern Mississippi right now. Right. You was in Central Arkansas.  

Unfortunately, I am.   Well, it's No. It was it was it was it was that no, it was it was actually a nice ride   coming up through. I just I just cruise set the cruise and just ride, got 20 miles a gallon on the jeep and Nice. Just enjoyed the ride. Didn't get in a hurry for nothing.   Good. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it was it was actually nice.  

[00:14:09] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you're running what? 33, 33 tires?  

[00:14:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. 33 12 fifties.  

[00:14:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:14:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And   the,   the, only difference from the stock tires   to these is,   my my speedometer is off by 5 miles,  

[00:14:27] Duuude-Ron :

Five miles an hour. Well, it yeah. It all depends on your speed, though, of how actually off you truly are. At 65 miles an hour, you're gonna be, yeah, about 5 miles an hour off.   So I know that's that that is   if I'm   at 65   on the road, I'm actually doing 72.  

[00:14:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, I I I'm saying the the reason why I'm saying I am 5 miles per hour off that is verified   by Google maps  

[00:14:55] Duuude-Ron :

because I've got the speed  

[00:14:57] Rich Chelson:

I've got the speed limit up. I've got my cruise set, and I've got my actual speed I'm going. So, yes, I'm about 5 miles an hour off. Oh, okay. So, yeah, it is it is verified.  

[00:15:08] Duuude-Ron :

Upper well, your speed is up over your speedometer. Right? Yeah. I have to run 75 to on the speedometer to run 70. Oh, that ain't right.   Yeah.   Yep. Alright.  

[00:15:20] Bryan Goodwin:

That, yeah, that's beyond the just beyond my pay grade. I don't have no  

[00:15:25] Duuude-Ron :

clue.  

[00:15:27] Rich Chelson:

So yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. To   like, like for me to run 55,   I've gotta   put the set to cruise   at about 60, 61,   and I'll be right at 55,   56,   somewhere right in there. And then it goes up from there About 45   is where it starts to switch.   I can ride at 45 on the speedometer   and be doing 45 miles an hour.   But,   when I go up past that,   that's when   the shift   takes place.  

[00:16:04] Duuude-Ron :

Alright. Alright. Well, just   and it'll and it'll go a lot. Dude? I didn't hear you.   The the difference will go a lot   larger   when you start going up on your tire size as well.   Right.   Well   yeah. Because he's running 30 threes,   running 30 sevens.   But me, personally, I don't ever look at my   miles per gallon. When it get when it gets to a quarter of a tank, I fill it up and drive. And once it gets down to a quarter of a tank, I fill it up again.   So did we lose Rich's   his I guess he ain't hearing us again.  

[00:16:42] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. He's still, still in the room. Because  

[00:16:46] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Are you hearing us, Rich? No. I'm here. I'm here. It just No. It's dude, you're you're   the   dude. Dude. Yeah. You are breaking up a lot. That's why that's why I I'm not saying much because I'm I'm having a I'm trying to   hear what you're saying, and I'm having a hard time. You know? It's not it's not you yourself. It's it's the signal.  

[00:17:09] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Go ahead. Am I am I breaking up?  

[00:17:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, Brian. Am I breaking up at your end? At the at the moment, no. You're not. That's why what I was gonna say, Rich, is go ahead and, let's go ahead and let's kill the, the Twitch stream.   And,   and, we'll just,   we'll try it again also because I think that's what's eating up your bandwidth so much because, yeah,   Ron's not, not breaking up that much on my end. I mean, we get a little bit of cellular Chinese here and there. Okay. But it's not   Okay. That might also help us from, keep us from from tripping over each other as much too.  

[00:17:46] Rich Chelson:

Now let me see.   How do I disconnect from Twitch?  

[00:17:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Go to the,   the streaming.  

[00:17:54] Rich Chelson:

You have to make me host again.  

[00:17:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, shit. My.  

[00:17:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I've dropped out and come back a few times.  

[00:18:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's true.  

[00:18:04] Rich Chelson:

Let's make host once more. Okay. Let me see here.   Stop stop livestream.  

[00:18:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:18:12] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I've stopped the livestream.   Okay.  

[00:18:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. So So we are not we are not streaming no more. Nope. We're just, we're just gonna do revert to our old way this this week   and next week too,   if possible.   May not   Yeah. It'll be, Just really depend  

[00:18:31] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well,   say, where we're camped at at K River,  

[00:18:37] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm gonna be right. No signal.   Yeah.   No signal. Is no signal.   What?   There is no signal.  

[00:18:48] Rich Chelson:

You can't hear me?  

[00:18:50] Bryan Goodwin:

I can hear you. Okay.  

[00:18:52] Duuude-Ron :

He said in Cay River,   you are gonna have no signal.  

[00:18:58] Rich Chelson:

That is wrong.   That is incorrect   because they have put signal   Wi Fi signal throughout the whole campground.   And where we're gonna be camped at, there is a wifi antenna right next, well, on the veteran's cabin, and we're gonna be right next to the veteran's cabin.   So I will have signal.   Now Adam Adam's,   put Wi Fi throughout the whole campground.  

[00:19:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's good. Okay.  

[00:19:25] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, things,   yeah, things are different. So, I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying we can,   you know, it'll be any better next week,  

[00:19:35] Bryan Goodwin:

but And I'm gonna say if he's it depends on what his what his,   what his,   Internet connection is.   Because if you got 2, 3000 people or however many people show up to,   show up there and all, trying to get on the Internet at the same time. It's it you're that that poor little hot,   access point is gonna start smoking.   So   Well, we  

[00:19:59] Rich Chelson:

okay. Last year, when when we DJed,   we were,   on Wi Fi,   and everything like that. And we had no problems. And there was only about   a couple of 2, 300 people there, 400 people last year.   You know, it wasn't it wasn't as big as   as what,   I mean, a lot of people told Adam that they were coming, but then again, we all know how Oh, yeah. What happens there. So   so, but you know, I mean, we didn't have no problem. Well, we well, I take that back. We did have a couple problems,   but I'm not sure if it was   not sure exactly what the problems were. Right. Right.   But I do problem was?  



[00:20:45] Bryan Goodwin:

What was that?  

[00:20:47] Duuude-Ron :

I have T Mobile.  

[00:20:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That will I mean, I mean,   I've thought about going to T Mobile, but every time I do, I I just I just think about the problems the dude has.  

[00:21:03] Duuude-Ron :

I absolutely do. Which is  

[00:21:06] Rich Chelson:

which is right next to a major interstate. So T Mobile shouldn't be having any problem whatsoever.  

[00:21:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Here they are. And T Mobile took over Sprint. Sprint was decent   for a long while.   Oh. I mean, grand the only difference they made was the thing. They went YMAX instead   of instead of, instead of,   4 g. So  

[00:21:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well But   Well, well, Sprint likes to be different.  

[00:21:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. That That's why they're no longer around. Around. Right?   So alright. So speaking of money   and and   what you got,   Ron?  

[00:21:45] Duuude-Ron :

No.   You're good. Go ahead.  

[00:21:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. I was just gonna say, speaking of money and governments and and requirements and all that, you all hear about, the g seven is actually starting to go into theft?   No. It's going into what?   Theft.   They're stealing.  

[00:22:03] Rich Chelson:

What do you mean? Oh, theft.  

[00:22:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Well, okay. You remember back when   old old pooty poot,   Putin decided that he was going to,   to invade in Ukraine and all all the Liberals went, went all all all whacked out on them on on the fact and was, like, all angry. So they they had the,   oh, I can't remember what the the the   monetary   fund,   network   that all the banks   use   these days. One where if you wanna transfer money from   Dallas to, to say Paris, France,   There's a there's a system that they use for that.   And they have,   whenever   whenever Russia   invaded Ukraine,   and they cut all that off, they also   went ahead and took all the funds   that Russia had   setting   in,   in banks outside   of Russia.  

They confiscated it   and have been sitting on it. And they've been trying to figure out how they can   actually use that money.   How can they steal that money so that they can actually   give it to the Ukrainians, which are are,   the Ukraine,   or Ukraine is nothing more than a big   money laundering place anyhow.   I mean, that's the reason why Biden was was in   grain,   back whenever he was with, with their the the oil company.  

[00:23:43] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That that one company.  

[00:23:46] Bryan Goodwin:

And   so we know that Ukraine is   is is crooked. We know we know that there nothing really good coming out of Ukraine. I mean,   the   Zelensky   is   is a is a clown.   He's taken probably   maybe 25,   at the at the low end. He's bought several   multimillion dollar,   mansions in other countries,   while since he's been, been president,   of Ukraine.   But now what they're wanting to do is he's still on the whole   hat hand,   trip. So   what their what the g seven has decided to do since they   aren't comfortable actually   taking the money   that's in the in the account, Russian account or the Russian money that's in in foreign accounts.   They've decided,   we can just take   the interest,   which is several   several 100,000,000,000   I think it's a couple 100,000,000,000. I I can't there's a b in there's   a b in the 1,000,000,000. I don't know how many billions there are. But, anyhow, the interest is in is coming in in the billions.  

And they're taking they're now siphoning that   that that   those, those interests,   the money made from interest   off of the, off the the the Russian accounts   and are going to be giving it to the,   to the Ukraine.   President,   Zelensky could think of his damn name again. Why is he gotta have such a hard name to say? It needs to be Fred.   So   but so, yeah, they're they're the,   course, the the,   Europe itself. I mean, they're run Europe is running into, apparently, a a little bit of a big problem,   right now just because,   well,   everybody is is voting to,   to go to,   the far right, the extreme right. So   so   they're they're they're,   the, the EU is in is in, panic mode at the moment.  

Paris is,   has just voted for,   for, what's her name, Lipan?   And she's, she's been they've been trying to beat her up, call her the, far extreme, extreme right, far right,   and using as many buzzwords as they possibly can. And, and she still ended up getting, like, 25% of the vote.   So, you know, they've got all this. So now they're they I guess they decided they,   in their state of panic, they were like, well, if we're gonna get the give this money to Zelensky, we better be doing it now. And so they've turned around and, the g seven has, decided to,   to tap into money that's not theirs   and and, and give it, give it to Zelensky to properly launder   and, and give, get back to, the the military industrial complex. So   there there's that.  

So what did you what are y'all thoughts on all that? How does that affect America?   Good chunk of the chain good chunk of the money is,   that we've been given, and we're still gonna be giving to, to,   to Zelensky in in that form. I mean, the way it'll the way it'll help us is that, I mean,   the the Boeing and and, whoever creates the m one able Abrams tanks and, you know, all the military industrial complex, the people who make the bombs and the guns and the, and the ammunition for, for both are   you know, they're gonna get, they're gonna get richer,   but that's about   I mean, way it affect how's it gonna affect us? I mean, it's gonna keep us in this in this   state of, of being for a bit longer.  



[00:27:48] Rich Chelson:

Okay. I I mean, I mean, I But it also  

[00:27:51] Bryan Goodwin:

but the the theft of it is way that's gonna affect us is   you already have Russia, China, India,   and I think some of the Middle East   coming up with the BRICS system. And the BRICS system is the   is their version   of the money transfer system.   So pretty soon well, for for Russia, they've already decided. You know what? If you're gonna if you wanna buy oil, you have buy it in in, in Russian,   rupels.   And so you've got that. So it's but how's it gonna hurt us? Well, it causes a distrust in the banking system. Not that the banking system could be trusted, but here recently with the World Monetary Fund, doing pulling its shenanigans with,   with the,   with ESG scores and and and and all the wokisms that are going on. Thanks to Klaus Schwab. But,   but, yeah, it's just it's a another   coffin in   the trust of the American dollar. So it   is going to end up, weakening the American dollar.  



[00:28:57] Duuude-Ron :

That's all we need.  

[00:28:59] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Well Oh, yeah. I mean inflation.   Well,   okay. You've got that going. That is weakening the American dollar. The other thing that is that is also,   could be very close to coming is that Russia   and Saudi Arabia is China talk with China   to trade in Chinese yuan   for oil.   In other words,   Russia and Saudi Arabia is thinking about   getting away from the dollar on on oil.  

[00:29:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And that's that BRICS system that I was talking about.  

[00:29:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, that's that's and and   that would really hurt us. The thing with Ukraine,   you say this you say this is why I'm wondering because   the g 7   is taking Russia's money   unless I misheard you.   You said you said this was Russia's money,   and the interest was was off Russia's money. So   so with the g seven stealing it, trying to give it to Ukraine,   that's   that's what I'm wondering is is   how has that affected America?   Because Because it's weakening the trust  

[00:30:12] Bryan Goodwin:

yeah. But it's weakening the trust of American banks.   So because if we can do it to Russia,   what's gonna keep us from doing it to, say, Germany   or maybe,   Norway. Norway decides, you know what? We're not playing this game anymore.   Screw you.   All of a sudden, we ostracize their. We lock their their banks up, and we start taking their money. Or with Great Britain. Great Britain, they have they have money in in, other banks also. So all of a sudden, you're gonna start losing a lot of investments   from from outside,   outside countries, which have typically invested in us and we in them.  

And, and what's gonna keep, say, Germany going, you know what?   We really need to have a little bit more money or maybe Paris or even or Hungary or anybody I don't know if Hungary is actually a part of the EU. But, so   but, anyhow, another European Union country   going, you know   what? America, we we need some, some of the, the extra money of yours that we've got in this bank. So we're gonna need to go ahead and utilize   your,   your your interest here, and we're gonna go ahead and just, you know, start going in.   It it's gonna break down. It's a breakdown of of all the,   of   the trust that is needed for the systems to work.  

Okay. So how does it affect America? Is it's it's taken the taken the trust and washed it down the toilet.  

[00:31:39] Rich Chelson:

K. And, well, like you said, what, last week, I think, or the week before   when you mentioned about the CBDC,   the central bank   digital currency. Currency? Yeah.   Yeah. That's   that is,   Part of it.   Well, that   it's it's not traded on on on any exchanges  

[00:32:00] Bryan Goodwin:

or anything. Oh, no. And it won't be. It'll be strictly   through the, through the central bank,   like the World Monetary Fund. They'll have a central world bank.  

[00:32:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I I mean, I I mean, honestly, the thing is, though,  

[00:32:15] Rich Chelson:

things have been going like this forever.   Well, yeah. You know? I mean, I mean, seriously for the last 30, 40, 50 years. So I mean, things,   even president Reagan, president Bush,   and on down,   Bill Clinton. I mean, it's it's on both sides of the aisle.   If if if you go back and and review certain species,   they've all talked about   a new world government, a a one world order,   a new currency.   You know? Obama talked about it a lot.   He was trying to push it hard. And I mean Right. Basically, what they're doing is   doing all this behind the scenes. I mean,   and I mean, we can't  

[00:32:56] Bryan Goodwin:

really stop it. You know, I mean, the only way we We is I mean, there is a way we could stop it, but but at the same time, that's gonna be something that's how can we stop that? Yeah.   By actually just taking the World Economic Forum, pulling out of the UN, pulling out of the World Economic Forum, tell them to go tell all these little groups that we are part of to go take a flying leap   and make it to where we   again, and I hate the fact that we'd end up having to write more laws, but but where we aren't   aren't a part of that group. It sounds very isolationist.  

And to a point it is because there was a reason why   I saw we weren't supposed to have   a whole bunch of of allies   in the world. We were supposed to be essentially like Switzerland,   where we are very neutral in everything. Because if we become if we develop allies and with France and all of a sudden France gets to a fight,   then we're kinda committed to go fight,   fright fence,   Francis fight. That's a lot of s.  

[00:34:03] Rich Chelson:

We've been doing that since Yo. No. I know. I mean, we I know. And that's that's one of the things that  

[00:34:10] Bryan Goodwin:

that Washington,   Jefferson, all the, all our founding fathers was really screaming about. It's like, watch out on how you're doing your alliances. Watched out with who you're claiming to be an ally because eventually you're gonna have to go and back up what you're saying. Granted, yes. But you see, the thing is, I mean, I'm trying to take away the, the,  

[00:34:31] Rich Chelson:

you know, all these economic funds or   whatever.   I mean, do you honestly think big business is gonna let that happen?   Hell no.   Because they operate in too many countries. They have money in too many countries.  

[00:34:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. And let them let them operate in those other countries   and like like what they're discovering now. Anyway. Well, yeah. They do anyway, but that's that's just it. Whether you let them or not, they do. That out.   Right. But, again,   let them do that so that they can they can they can find out the same thing that they're finding out right now. When you go woke, you go broke. When you start trying to mess around and part with the with World Economic Forum, all of a sudden, you start losing money.   Yeah. It sounds real good. They pat you on the back and say, yeah. We're gonna we're gonna treat you right. But all we need to do is we need to take every cent of your money and you need to do exactly as we say, and we'll we'll be nice to you. It's like, no. They're bunch of they're they're a bunch of   of of morons   who who   are are trying to figure out best way of,   finagling money out of people's hands   for the sense power.  

That's why the World Economic Forum has something like the like ESG,   scores so that they can say, you know what? I don't like what you say.   You're not going because you didn't you didn't say the right things. You didn't put the a series   of words in the proper sentence   and the proper order,   we're going to keep you from being able to pay for your heating bill. That's I'm sorry, but with just it's a rule we have to do. We have make sure everybody that pays it. Well, except for the except for the, the president. President say what he wants as long as he says what we agreed to.  

[00:36:17] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Let me ask you this. Who runs the World Economic Fund?  

[00:36:21] Bryan Goodwin:

That'd be Klaus Schwab.  

[00:36:23] Rich Chelson:

Schwab.  

[00:36:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Schwab.   Klaus.  

[00:36:27] Rich Chelson:

Anyhow, it Okay. Yeah. I know. I know.   Listen to the name.  

[00:36:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I know. It's it's a it's a, Business.  

[00:36:35] Rich Chelson:

Big   business.   Schwab is one of the biggest names in the world, dude.  

[00:36:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But I don't know if he is related to those Schwab's.  

[00:36:44] Rich Chelson:

Honestly, I don't know. I'm a He is he is somewhere in the family tree.  

[00:36:48] Duuude-Ron :

I mean,  

[00:36:49] Rich Chelson:

I mean, come on, dude.   I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean possibility, but Okay. Okay. Look at look at JPMorgan Chase. Look at   our JP Morgan, look at chase, look at Paul or the Wahlbergs,   look at the Johnson and Johnson family.   These are the big businesses I'm talking about. They're not gonna get hurt.   They're they're the ones running everything.  

[00:37:11] Bryan Goodwin:

No. They properly have diversified.   And I'm not out to say hurt the hurt the big businesses. The businesses can operate however they wanna operate as long as it was within the the rules of law. I mean, come on. We've already have we   back back when they did the Sherman Act, I mean, they they killed off. Hey. If you you get too good of a product, we're gonna have to dock you. We're gonna have to keep you from doing that to that really good product.   Because the Sherman Act is the reason why   Google,   Microsoft got in trouble.   They had too good of a product.  

Too many people were using it. Too many people were were were using,   using Internet Explorer because they own the they own the the the software, the operating system, Windows.   And so why is it fair that they put their own browser on it? That shouldn't be right.   Bitch, it's my freaking I if I went off and created Windows, if I wanna put Internet Explorer on there and lock everybody else out, that's my damn prerogative.  

[00:38:12] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:38:14] Bryan Goodwin:

But no. That's the but again,   if I they too many people were using windows   and there was and folks like who were trying to trying to get something going   with, like,   Firefox   or even Chrome or Opera or any of the other alternative,   browsers, they were just too they were they were too busy crying, going, it's not fair. We can't get on to on the Windows platform,   then make a platform,   but that's too much work. We don't wanna have to make something better. We would just rather have our shitty service put onto theirs.  

[00:38:47] Rich Chelson:

Well, this is what this is what Chrome did.   Chrome did make their own   operating system. Yeah. Yeah. And it works. It works really freaking well too. Oh, yeah. It does. But but you see, Opera and Firefox, you know, you know, I can understand. But you see you see, that's the thing now.   Well, Internet Explorer is now Edge,   and it comes on every Windows menu And it also regardless.  

[00:39:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Edge. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm not afraid of Edge. My Internet is for. They I mean, they both sucked, and that's the that's the thing.   It didn't come in preinstalled   on on Windows.   Could you get   Firefox   on on, on Windows back in, you know, back in 2000?   Yeah.   Or yeah. Yep. 2000. Yeah. You could. Yeah. Yeah. I think so.   Because I did it.   You just have to go you just have to know. And that was the problem is back then. It's not very many peep   Most people were used to, like, AOL, which is Internet on training wheels.  

[00:39:48] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:39:49] Bryan Goodwin:

And so it was all this very locked in closed off dark. If you wanted to go and see more of the real internet, you had to go off and and minimize,   Internet ex or,   America online and then go over to to, open up Internet Explorer   and actually type in www.   Where do I go? Oh my. You know? And they had to try to figure had to figure out how to go search around   and do it the hard way.  

[00:40:21] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, see, that's the thing. When they brought the Internet out,   they just kinda rushed it because they hyped it up for years.   And  

[00:40:31] Bryan Goodwin:

and Oh, it was fun. It was great.  

[00:40:34] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. The old Internet was great. It's just, you know, that dial up took forever, though. Well yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:40:43] Bryan Goodwin:

But, yeah, make sure you unplugged your speakers and and stuff or   so that, so if you're trying to   trying to go online at night, no one no one would hear you. So  

[00:40:54] Rich Chelson:

Yo. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.   But   no. No. You see, though, that's the thing now. It's it's,   you know,   I don't know. It's it's been since I've been   paying attention,   basically when I got my twenties   and mid twenties and stuff. Because   when I was a teenager, I gave 2 shits what went on. Right. Right.   You know? But, you know, when I got in my twenties and further on,   you know, I've just I've just been noticing everybody.   I I mean,   everybody is trying to   get away from the dollar,   and they're slowly chipping away at it. They just, you know, fully made it yet. But Right. You know? And  

[00:41:38] Bryan Goodwin:

and but and   the reason I and I understand why they would wanna try to get away from the dollar. I mean, in 1, we've kinda been an asshole with the dollar.   We the we got everybody on board to use the dollar as the as the major   currency form   under the promise that we were never going to believe the gold standard.   And then in   in 1970s,   what we what we do, we're like, oh, hey.   Yeah. We don't need that gold standard anymore. Anyhow, that's that's old hat, man. We need to we need to go   just trust us. We're gonna take care of this dollar. And now we've got assholes like Biden who are just who are printing out   a trillion   a $1,000,000,000,000,000   every 100 days.  



[00:42:23] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Obama did the same thing.  

[00:42:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Actually, he didn't do it as quite as bad as what Biden's doing. Biden's taken Obama's,   game plan and ramped it up to to high gear.   I mean, Trump didn't help matters any either. I mean, when it came to that No. No. But No. No. I I Just to make sure we got, the proper number of people tossed under a bus.   But  

[00:42:50] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Because So because, oh my god. If we don't, you know, you know, if we don't throw in a couple Republicans,  

[00:42:58] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, someone will bitch about it. You know? Yep. Yep. We'd Oh, oh, oh, that that guy reminded me.   Have you all heard about the n word girl?  

[00:43:06] Duuude-Ron :

Who?  

[00:43:07] Bryan Goodwin:

What? The n word girl.  

[00:43:10] Duuude-Ron :

N word  

[00:43:11] Bryan Goodwin:

girl. Okay. Yeah. The No. Alright. Apparently, a couple days ago,   there was a   a TikTok gal, an e, and with   the   the people are just kinda starting to start put pieces together to find out what it actually is. But she was doing this   she's done a couple of little I'm gonna call it tirade videos, like TikTok videos where she was kinda complaining about, you know, this group or this group.   And she ended up talking about,   about what was it? I think it was about, like, how girls keep,   keep hooking up with   with broke ass.   And but she she used the the ghetto term with an a instead of with with the to   it.  



[00:44:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh. And Okay.  

[00:44:04] Bryan Goodwin:

And oh my god. You would've you would've thought she was she had a, a clan hat on.   Because the half the half the Internet has just gone   mental   nuclear   lost their freaking minds. And then the other half is kinda gone,   yeah, it's a word. Y'all don't like it. So I don't like people say it, but at the same time, you know,   if you don't like to say it, then why do y'all say it? We've they she's brought up this whole argument that's been going around for,   well, since seventies, really.  

[00:44:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. If you don't if you don't wanna hear it, why do you say it?  

[00:44:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly.   And I'm too chicken to actually say it. So I I'm,   this gal has more balls than I do.   So   Yeah. It's amazing. She it was and and what was what was funny about it was that she was doing it, in a in a trad wife outfit, which is a traditional wife outfit, which is, you know, has her hair she has her hair done up. She's in this dress with a with an apron on, and she's just she's doing this   the doing this little shtick of of being a traditional housewife   when she says this. And and so, yeah, you've got, you've got everybody trying to trying to go crazy. Some folks saying saying she's,   she's,   she's a far right extremist,   and others are saying no. No. Actually, I think that's she's probably a psyop for,   from the left trying to get, trying to make sure that the right looks bad in, in their eyes. So and, honestly, either way, I don't know which one it is because I I I have   no idea because it's just one of those things where it's only been a couple days. So,   I just found it really interesting that, yeah, I mean, people are still just   lose their mind over a word.  

What does that word mean? Yeah.  

[00:45:53] Duuude-Ron :

It means They lose their mind. They they will lose their minds until   God comes back   and   fire and brimstone,   when it doesn't matter anymore,   that's when it's going   to be a ball   or Right. Not going to have any meaning. But until then,   it is always going to be   that one word   that, you know, nobody wants to hear, but   everybody's   certain individuals can say it without a problem.  

[00:46:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Well Certain individuals can't say it. Right. And And what's what's interesting though is how many people don't   know vocabulary words very well,   because there is a word that   is,   there is a word called being niggardly.   And the only reason I'm saying that is because it doesn't mean anything racially. It means miserly   and people will lose their mind over that word.   They shouldn't be saying that. Well, well, if you're being a miser, you're you're being that.  

[00:46:59] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Yep.  

[00:47:00] Bryan Goodwin:

So it's just it's   so interesting that so many people would go   and   and jump to conclusions,   which, I mean, granted I do too. Hell, it's fun. It's kinda fun type to type jump to conclusions.   You know? But at the same time, if you're gonna jump to conclusions, be o be okay with the fact that you may realize that you jumped on a on on a,   jumped into a boat that's sinking really fast.   Yep. How about you, Rich?  

[00:47:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That   you know, honestly,   people are   making   too big of a thing of it because   this word   that that we're talking about   is lazy.   There is there is no color associated with it. It is it is it is,   it is blanketed   for every human being   on this earth.   If you're lazy, shiftless, don't wanna do anything.  

[00:47:58] Bryan Goodwin:

No. Be at a color about about that because   Let me. Well but at the same time, when you start looking at other languages,   the color for or the word for   black   has some form of that. Usually, it's, more of the, of the Negro, but the the Negro kinda like, black is Negro,   for in Spanish, and I forget what it is in Italian. I had it just the other day, and I'm just finally getting around the colors.   So   I'm not a 100% on on on the colors, but it's   there's usually some   some very   variation,   especially with the, with the Latin languages,   for for the color black   to be   be the   that contained any g in within it.  



[00:48:46] Rich Chelson:

Correct. Okay.   And, yes, in 1990   in the 19 nineties was when   it, it, it went from being   a term   labeled for a lazy shiftless person to   African Americans   in the 1990s.   Before then,   it was,   it was used   not just for African Americans. It was used for Irish Americans,   Chinese,   you know, Porsche name, a country,   you know? I mean, it was, it was more widely used. It was only in the nineties. Remember that,   look it up,   Look it up because I because I've   here.   Because   I looked it up, well, a long time ago.   But,  

[00:49:35] Bryan Goodwin:

so yeah. There's a chance then that that Google won't even let you find it no more.  

[00:49:39] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. You can't.   Merriam Webb.   I just did. So hang on. I'm   gonna get the Merriam Webster,   term of it.   So it's not the urban slang.   One of the   first ones, of course, is used as an insulting contemptuous   term for a black person.   It says used as an insulting and contemptuous   term for a member of any dark skinned race.   Now I see   a member or of a class or group of people who are   systematically   subjected to discrimination   and unfair treatment.   So   a member so, I mean, there's   there's 3 different definitions   of Right.   Of this word we're talking about. And but but everyone just automatically   jumps   to African Americans,   and it could apply to   any race, creed, nationality,   or whatever you wanna use it for.  

Not saying it's right in any case because it's not, you know,   but,   you know, that's just that's why that's why it's it's like it's like,   you know,   honestly, why are we still talking about this   today in 2024?  

[00:50:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, that's   Sleep. Honestly, he has the word.  

[00:51:03] Rich Chelson:

Slave has been over for for   slavery has been over for, yeah, a couple 100 years,  

[00:51:10] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Oh, yeah.   About almost 2. Yeah.  

[00:51:14] Rich Chelson:

Whatever. Team   sixties.   Yeah.  

[00:51:18] Bryan Goodwin:

100 50 is Okay.  

[00:51:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's it's like it's like, can't we grow the fuck up?   Honestly,   can't we? Yeah.  

[00:51:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:51:28] Rich Chelson:

I I mean,   you know, that's the thing. I don't I the only time I look down on someone is when I'm trying to help them up. I don't look down on anybody.   You know? You know, if you wanna be lazy and shiftless, then fine.   Get out of my face. I don't care.   You know? I'll Right. I'll freaking do the job myself. It it doesn't affect me in what I do because I know what I'm gonna do.   Okay?   But, you know,   damn it, Brian. Fucking got me wound up again.   But,   and this is what, this is what just, this would just fucking irks me because   all these little pansy ass people   that that   that gene   their their   their freaking gene pools are about as deep as a kiddie pool.  

And they can't think past   their, the,   the, the freaking end of their nose and actually   maybe do a little research and learn something   because, oh my God, you've got the whole internet, but now everybody thinks TikTok, Facebook,   Twitch, Snapchat,   or all these others is, oh,   that's the real Internet. You know?   Right. That's that's a freaking where they learn everything, and it's like, no, motherfuckers.   Actually, do a search. Oh my god.   I don't know if they know how to do that. You know, that's like, stop being me   plain and simple. If you don't like someone, tell them I don't like you. You know, feel like some people.  

Exactly.  

[00:53:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. But  

[00:53:04] Rich Chelson:

there, there is no reason why we should still be talking about this word   in 2024.  

[00:53:11] Bryan Goodwin:

None. No. And I agree there. That's that's a word that should have been   worked out of the lexicon of, of,   of American people long time ago. And the only folks who actually do use it would be the actual   actual racist that still   still   reside   everywhere within the world.  

[00:53:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But see, I and you see, that's the thing. I mean, it   I don't know. People just take things too long and they sit and harp on their, you know, everything. And then then he got people in the background   trying to keep shit started.   So, so they're fighting amongst each other so they can control them easier people. If you'd fucking listen and look at history,   I'm going to tell you right   now, all this bullshit, all this woke bullshit, this liberal bullshit   and all this fighting this protesting   and all this shit about Palestine, Israel, they're just keeping you fighting against each other   just to control you.  

That's all they're doing.   Look it up,   look at history.  

[00:54:16] Bryan Goodwin:

So speaking of, of the, woah, I'm gonna change topics. I'm gonna shift gears on you since you're since you're revved up. Let's see if we can get you down to down down off the off the red line just a little bit so we don't blow gasket somewhere.   So   the woke I came close. I I   can't   there is, there's a new Star Wars   series that has come out here recently,   and it's called the acolyte   and it's supposed to be taking place about a 150,   200 years before the events   of the,   of episode 1.   And   this thing is going horrible.   This is a this first, it's done by, by a a chick named Leslie Hedlund.  

She was the assistant to Harvey Weinstein.   And,   and I actually   not a 100%.   Everybody claims that she's actually a lesbian.   But at the same time, you look at her straight on and stuff,   her chin, she has got a very is she   oh, it it it I I see dude.   Not not not the not our dude, but a dude. A a guy.   In this in this,   in the in the pictures of her. And, I mean, some of them are I mean,   the the one that most people have liked to show is the one   it is just most god awful freaking outfit you ever see someone wear. She's got it. She's got her pantsuit on. At least, I think it's a pantsuit. I believe it's a pantsuit.   But she's got a mullet, but the side of her head is definitely   been shellacked   up. So she's got this hair that goes up over on the back, and then it's all just Kentucky waterfall on the back.  

Okay. And like I said, feminism   is not for not for the beautiful women.   It's equal opportunity for the ugly chicks. It's all it is. Right. And she this chick is is a good prime example of because somehow, she got around to being able to direct   the acolyte.   And she has made statements,   or made statements that this is going to be the queerest,   Star Wars there is.  

[00:56:31] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Well, then the ad   Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.  

[00:56:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Go ahead and do it. And and what Go ahead.   And so they the first two episodes were kind of I mean, it's,   I've I've I stopped at 3 because after the third one, I was just, okay. This this is fucking horseshit. The bullshit. They've they've lost   they've lost me forever. The only reason I yet to actually cancel Disney now is because,   one,   they still have the classic movies that I actually liked.   They have the, like, the black hole, the original Tron,   you know, all these old old Disney movies that were just fucking awesome. You know, the apple dumpling gang type of stuff. Alright.   And not to mention my my my granddaughter   likes bluey. They have bluey, so pay. Bluey's good. Bluey's very Bluey stay up good.  

So   but anyhow so but the third episode, the first two were just very   just kinda mealy mouthed. They were just kinda   the third one comes along,   and   they've decided that the force   is is female.   So somehow the force,   the the energy that is courses through all beings in the universe, somehow a gender.   Though there's these are the same people that like to run around saying that there's,   you know, 10,000 genders. So how they picked female out of out of that is beyond me. But either way,   I'm not the one who wrote the story. But the other thing is and this is what the point that I'm getting and want to try to get to is   that   the Jedi   were the evil ones or are the evil ones. They're the ones who are going out stealing these kids from their families   because they've got force, they're force sensitive, and they could they could do other and it's like, yeah. If you had a kid who had a who was had the potential to be a nuclear bomb,   wouldn't you want him to know how to use   his powers for, for for good?  

Instead of just, you know, I'm gonna do whatever I want, you know,   All of a sudden,   cause all sorts of havoc and destruction and, you know,   and that got me to thinking.   The woke folks, the left, the far left, the the the   bat shit crazy folks who are   like Leslie Hedlund,   like   all the all the the ones that don't know which bathroom they need to be using.   They can't decide for one day to the next, whether they're they're a dude or a a cat or a dog or an ostrich or an elephant or a a rhino. You know, they can't make up their mind.   These this is the   epic battle that Star Wars was telling us about.  

You have the dark side of the force, the woke.   Come to come to the dark side. We have cookies. If you wanna try to bring your a dead loved one back, bye, George, you could do so. You get angry as for somebody, go ahead, get angry, jump over to the dark side of the course. Get feel all that power   goes, you know, all that dark power you're going you have to forest going through your bay. You know? All of that type stuff. You've got   got them going crazy.   The dark side of the force is hedonism.   It is do what you feel like you wanna do.   No rules to be applied.  

You, me, you, boo, and,   you know,   by damn any consequences.   While   the light side of the force   has the structure.   Yeah. There's stuff in there that is a little tough   to to to swallow, but that's why   sometimes, yeah. If you're doing something that if you have exceptional   power, if you have an exceptional   ability,   you're going to need to have more you're gonna gonna need to study   and away from your family   to be able to focus that skill, that talent, that ability   to the greatest   potential that it could be.   So, yeah, they go through. They sit all around the world that all the different, force sensitive kids, and they bring them together and they teach them how to focus in on the force, to use the force and to be a element of good.   Or   in other words, to be a stoic.  

This is the classic   the light side of the force, the dark side of the force is the classic fight that happened in the,   back in the Roman times when stoicism was was around.   Stoicism and hedonism were just 2 different types of philosophies that just   bashed into each other every single day.   Whether you should just go off and get drunk all the time, not work, not doing whatever it is you need to do, not worry about any type of responsibility,   or should you worry about your responsibilities?   And we all know that we need discipline in our lives. If you want to have   more to in your life,   if you wanna have more riches, you wanna have more freedom in your life,   you actually need discipline.  

You need the discipline of whatever structure you've been raised with.   You need that type of discipline. Moment you're not disciplined,   all of a sudden, you're not you don't have the the the   ability or the skills to be able to get anything accomplished to what you're wanting to do. So you stay   under slavery   that whole time. While if you stay,   disciplined,   you are able to and you're say you you schedule your life out. So from the moment you wake up,   you set your alarm 6 o'clock in the morning. You get up at 6 and you are you have your life scheduled from from 6 o'clock until you go to bed at 10 o'clock. That whole time. Every hour, you've got something happening every every hour and a half hour.   You're actually going to get more done, and you're gonna have more time to do the fun stuff that you want in your life   because you you scheduled yourself to   the t.  

While people who are not who are not scheduling their life, they run around going, well, I don't have time to get anything done. I don't I'm gonna have I I can't. How does anybody get anything done? They wanna blame everybody else.  

[01:02:54] Rich Chelson:

I guess that's been,   that's been going  

[01:02:58] Bryan Goodwin:

throughout millennia.   Since since the world started, basically. Yeah. You know, since the first time man walked out from the cave and instead of going on the bugger, he goes, oh.   Right. Damn. You know? Right.  

[01:03:13] Rich Chelson:

And well, and, and say the thing is with, Disney plus,   you know, honestly, and now, now I get it. Yes. I love the classics myself,   You know?   I mean,   the old Disney classic movies are, are awesome.   And, but I will not subscribe to Disney plus because I will not support   their thoughts and everything about all this woke shit. And I don't wanna see   all of this stuff forced in my face. Like I've always   said, I don't care what you do. You do you, boo. I gave no damn what you do. Just don't do it in front of me. Just don't write me why.  

[01:03:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. And that's Then you messaged me. Problem that's happening is that we've had too many people go on, hey.   I can be whatever I wanna be.   Alright. I'm gonna be something that is impossible to be. And now you have to accept me. No. No. That's the problem. I don't have to accept you. You can accept you if you want. The I draw the line off when you start putting your foot down going, you have to respect me for what I am. No. I get to respect that's my choice. That stop trying to take my right of my own responsibility and my choice away from me. If you wanna be a if you wanna be a a a a you're you're typically normally a chick. You wanna be a dude horse?   Okay.  

Fine. But I'm still gonna call you and just call you a chick. Alright?   You're still in my eyes, you're still a chick. I don't have to actually respect your quote unquote pronoun. I can call you what I see you as.   But say the thing is Because they call me what I what they see me as.  

[01:04:50] Rich Chelson:

The thing is also   the best way to stop a lot of this shit  

[01:04:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Is to stop giving it attention.  

[01:04:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Exactly.   It's called D Lee.   Yeah. You know, I mean, I mean, I get it though, because   you can't get to Disney classic movies anywhere else except on Disney.  

[01:05:08] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:05:09] Rich Chelson:

You know? And which sucks. You know? But Unless you got DVDs.   That is true. But who has DVDs nowadays?  

[01:05:17] Duuude-Ron :

I   do.  

[01:05:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Honestly, no. I mean, they're for a moment. I see. I think I've got,  

[01:05:25] Rich Chelson:

I think I've got maybe a total of   10   at my house up north.  

[01:05:31] Bryan Goodwin:

That's it. So about 200 videos.  

[01:05:36] Duuude-Ron :

Man, I've got that I got 3 totes.   I got 3 totes of DVDs.  

[01:05:41] Bryan Goodwin:

There you go.   And the reason why 3 totes. Yeah. But and I there for a while, I was I stopped buying DVDs   because we started it we when we kept the cord, we're like, oh, hey. Look this. We've got all these movies.   And then we were all started to realize like, oh, wait a minute.   I wanted to watch, you know,   Platoon on on Netflix.   And it's not on Netflix anymore   because they rotate movies around.   Mhmm. And that's when I was like, you know, we're gonna continue buying because all we and they've already shown that they they one of the things they do is when say   all of a sudden,   all they well, they did it with ET back in,   I think it was back in 2020.  

It might have been a little earlier, but, anyhow, when ET there they decided,   well, it was, it was during one of the, one of the the,   one of the school shootings right after that. They decided, you know what?   All the guns that were represent or that were in ET,   They digitally removed them,   put walkie talkies in my hands.  

[01:06:50] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't watch movies that close for shit like that. I just, I just watch a movie just to watch it. And the thing is,   the, the sad thing is with DVDs,   most of your computers and laptops nowadays   do not have a CD DVD player.   And Right. You can still get DVD players, but they're getting harder and harder to find. So Right. Well, that's one reason why play my PlayStation 5, I got one  

[01:07:17] Bryan Goodwin:

with the disc.  

[01:07:19] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Same here. I did too.  

[01:07:21] Bryan Goodwin:

So that I had I can watch Blu ray.   I can watch,   UHD type of, films, or I can watch,   Blu ray movies or DVDs, or since it covers the whole stream. Right. Now now the thing is, though okay.  

[01:07:39] Rich Chelson:

Speaking of that,   I've watched a couple Blu ray movies through my PS 5.  

[01:07:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[01:07:45] Rich Chelson:

I really can't tell the difference between,   I mean, yeah, it's a little better picture, but,  

[01:07:51] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, it's it's it's nothing that fancy. Oh, no. But it's because Blu ray is just high definition. That is 10 40, by   what is it? 10 40 by 980 or some 1040 by 46. Anyhow.  

[01:08:07] Rich Chelson:

10 80. 1080 by 19.   By 19. Yeah. 1920.  

[01:08:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. So it is that.   Alright?   So, yeah, when you have a 4 k television, you're still going to get just the the 10 80.   But if you go off and you get a 4 k movie and you put it in there and you watch that,   then you see a difference.   And it's not if we're it's not   yeah. If you have 4 k television and it's the right type of 4 k and it you know, and with the right type of DDR because   DDR, you've got, you got the Dolby version of, of or not DDR, HDR.   You got the Dolby version of HDR, then you have HDR 10. You know?   And which one does your your television   support?  

Most of them are   swinging over to HDR 10 nowadays, but it's   still at the same time. You can still come across,   shows that are televisions that don't support,   HDR 10. They are   support the the Dolby   version of of HDR.  

[01:09:14] Rich Chelson:

So thing is,   most people   wouldn't notice the difference anyway. Like No. No. No. No. Like   like like this laptop I have here has a OLED display   and it has Dolby Atmos.   And Mhmm. Yeah. Oh my god.   I've I've   never seen   I've never seen a screen on a laptop this beautiful.   So  

[01:09:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Except for the satellite   the the satellite laptop, Toshiba.   I remember seeing those back back in the early 2000 going, oh my god. That was so amazing. Now you don't see them around anymore because I don't think,   Toshiba actually makes saddle up satellites, make, laptops anymore. I don't even think they're Toshiba even still around. Thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They yo. Yeah. They're they're big.   They make They they're as big as they were in the early 2000 because you don't see them hardly anymore.  

[01:10:08] Rich Chelson:

Right.   They make,   air conditioners,   AC units, rice cookers, TVs.  

[01:10:17] Duuude-Ron :

Hang on.   Let me do  

[01:10:20] Rich Chelson:

if I can spell it right.   And I think they still make laptops.   I don't know.   Yeah. As of,   April 11th.   Oh, no. April 16, 2023,   they,   cut out making laptops.  

[01:10:37] Bryan Goodwin:

I know I didn't see them in Walmart anymore. So  

[01:10:40] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. They they stopped making them be they stopped making them because,   now now they still,   use their technology   in, in, other laptops and stuff. But,   but there is no laptops made under the Toshiba name anymore. So no Ah. But yeah.   And, and, Apple   Apple has a retina display, which is beautiful as well.  

[01:11:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. That's   that's a that's a a great display to to to use also. I think finally, I've gotten around to start a little bit into their,   into their monitors for their desktops. So  

[01:11:19] Rich Chelson:

shit. It's about   time. But, yeah, I know I know dude.   Dude's down there just going.   He's like, what? Oh, no. What did you say?  

[01:11:33] Bryan Goodwin:

What? What? What? What? What?  

[01:11:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Exactly.  

[01:11:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We geeked out there on that. I'm glad I I'm glad I shaved my head tonight. At least if that   bounces  

[01:11:46] Bryan Goodwin:

off my head. Well yeah. But that's just it. It it should be going,   yeah.   That's it. Slides across your head.   Yeah. Should have a little squeaky squeaky squeaky. At least there's Pop pop.  

[01:12:01] Rich Chelson:

Not much hey. Wax your head so there's no Just a thought. Not as so much   friction.  

[01:12:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Wax on? Wax off.   Wax   on? Wax off.  

[01:12:13] Duuude-Ron :

That's right.  

[01:12:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. They I mean, I don't know. I I mean, this is all   I swear. It it's just   it it it, you know, makes me mad. And then then at at the same time, it just like, you know what? I'm out.  

[01:12:30] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? That's No. I understand that completely.   You know? And most most of this stuff, I just I bring up just because I I have I'm I've that's kind of the kind of the the, the the gauge that I measure all these stories by is, like, so alright. See? Well, Ritch will get wound up on this one.   Oh, over. Yeah. He's wrapped around the axle axle on this one. I'm sure as hell gonna put it in here. So Dang. Thanks, dude.   I gotta get some problem going on here.   So Yeah. What are you what are you trying  

[01:13:03] Duuude-Ron :

what are you trying to do? See how,   how tight you can turn that fork before the banjo string   freaking   break.   FANG.  

[01:13:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Gotta test I gotta test the o rings on on old Rich here. You know? Make sure he's up to date. Well, you know you know you know, it's,  

[01:13:24] Rich Chelson:

been quite a while since I've been really wound up. So,   I mean   but last couple weeks, I've gotten wound up a little bit.   Yeah. Yeah. This week so far has been I've been wound up.   Yeah. You you freaking wound me up   tonight a little bit already.  

[01:13:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Yay.   Ding. Ding. Ding.  

[01:13:44] Duuude-Ron :

So Oh, yeah.  

[01:13:46] Rich Chelson:

No. Oh, I I've got a, I've got a,   new continuing   saga.  

[01:13:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. What's what's continuing saga about?  

[01:13:57] Rich Chelson:

I'm back under contract.  

[01:13:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Are you? Oh. Oh. Oh, the house. Housewives. We got we got house information.  

[01:14:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah.   Sign the papers to,   officially submit an offer on that on that house that   that I told you all about last night. Right. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Talking. So yeah. So, I mean,   we'll see it. I mean, honestly, I think   I think this one will probably go through.  

[01:14:28] Bryan Goodwin:

So, Good chance.  

[01:14:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. This one this one has I think   it again,   it depends on the appraisal because the, comps that   that my realtor did,   was only showing it at about a 125,000.  

[01:14:45] Bryan Goodwin:

And they're jacking the prices up high again. So  

[01:14:48] Rich Chelson:

And and,   well, as, y'all saw on the listing, it was listed at 142.   And,   and, I'm,   going under contract for 138.   So   so, I mean, we'll see we'll see what happens.   You know? And, again, it's it's,  

[01:15:06] Bryan Goodwin:

it's all depend on what the bank wants to do.  

[01:15:10] Rich Chelson:

It depends on the VA. No.  

[01:15:12] Bryan Goodwin:

No.  

[01:15:13] Duuude-Ron :

The bank.  

[01:15:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. The, the VA appraiser.   You know, if he says, you know, if he says 138 or higher,   then it'll go. If it's Yeah. It'll go.   Yeah. If it's less, then we'll then we'll renegotiate.   Right. So and but but this time,   the difference between this time versus the first house   is   when I spend this $600   for the appraisal, and I'm I'm telling y'all this. So if y'all go buy a house nowadays,   this is a price I have to pay. Not saying it'll be the price you have to pay, but expect it.   But, this time   when I paid that 600 for the appraisal,   then,   I won't get that back because the seller's not offering   to, pay it back.  

Mhmm.   So,   so yeah, it'll be, yeah, it'll be a $600   appraisal on me.   And,   even if the sale doesn't go through,   the, seller's not offering to,   I could probably ask for it back, but I don't know if they would do it.   So  

[01:16:24] Duuude-Ron :

Well, let's not let's not,   put the cart before the horse. Let's,   go ahead and say   it's gonna the appraisal is gonna come out to your favor.  

[01:16:36] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. No. No. No. I agree. I agree, dude. Because, honestly, I was sitting here thinking because,   when I was talking with my realtor   yesterday,   and she told me what,   they, the, 138,   which is what they came back with because I first verbally offered 135   and then they, they had come back 138 and I'm like, well,   let me know on it for a day or 2. And she was like, what?   This this house, this house is gonna go.   I said, yeah. I have a bite. I said, just hang on.   And,   Yeah. I've been thinking about it and, you know, thought about it last night. And then on the drive up,   you know, you know, sitting there thinking about it, and it's like, I could see myself growing old in that house   because it it just   the pictures. It just is classic. I don't know. It's just   hardwood floors, man. I just, I don't know. It just   that yard though. I love that yard.  



[01:17:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You're gonna have 37 different antennas up.  

[01:17:41] Rich Chelson:

I might.   Believe me.   Let's put it this way. The sale of this house goes through   the day after closing. I will have it loose. He's 2 antennas up   at least 2,   if not a third.   So  

[01:17:57] Bryan Goodwin:

And then Rich will go off and he's gonna get a get a permit, put up a 200,   300 foot tower so he can Yeah.  

[01:18:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. We and everything.   For,   for, for a 200 foot. I need FAA,   FCC approval   and of course city and county. And   because there's freaking multiple airports   all around there.   So, yeah, that that'd be a whole lot of red tape,  

[01:18:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Whole lot of red tape. You're ready for that type of headache?   No. No. Oh, yeah. You are. Oh oh, you gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You you're you're Not yet. You're up for that. You're gonna fight the law,   and law's gonna wonder what the hell happened.  

[01:18:43] Rich Chelson:

I've been doing that my whole life.  

[01:18:46] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. Well, just go   just go 1 foot   below   the   what's the maximum you can have without anybody's approval?  

[01:18:58] Rich Chelson:

I can go 199   and be okay.  

[01:19:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. So you got all the approval. 199  

[01:19:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Well point,   99 feet and 11 inches.  

[01:19:08] Rich Chelson:

I would I would I would actually have to check with the county and the city and the state   to see if they have any restrictions. But as far as the FCC,   I can't go over 200 feet.   And,   if I want to go over 200 feet, then   I mean,   you know, I still have,   other regulations   anyway   because, yeah, it has to be guide   like,   6 or 8 or 10 times,   a light on at least one light on the very top,   1 or 2 lights   in the middle, and has to be listed with the FCC.   It's I mean, there there is a lot of paperwork to go along with it.  

[01:19:50] Duuude-Ron :

So Okay. So your your antenna right now that you currently use, that you put on the back of your Jeep goes how high?  

[01:20:00] Rich Chelson:

Actually,  

[01:20:01] Bryan Goodwin:

3 feet.  

[01:20:02] Rich Chelson:

No. It goes,   I've got a mask that goes 33 feet.  

[01:20:07] Duuude-Ron :

33 feet. And Yeah. Who can you talk  

[01:20:11] Rich Chelson:

to? All of them. Known to man.  

[01:20:13] Duuude-Ron :

Pretty much the whole world. Right?   Yep. So even if you bring a tower   a 100 feet   and doesn't require approval from   any   entity   whatsoever.   What's the difference between 33 feet and a 100 feet? You'd be able to talk to yourself.  

[01:20:34] Rich Chelson:

You can do that with with the one I have actually.  

[01:20:38] Duuude-Ron :

Hey, Brian.   We're going into a whole another subject there.   I got I got so many   I got so many people fighting in my mind.   It's like the freaking,   WWE   SmackDown.   You know, so talking to myself yeah. Okay.   You know what's really bad? I'm just throwing this out there.   When   you know you're having a rough day   when you homeschool your kids   and the parent teacher conference   goes to a fist fight.  

[01:21:17] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Right.  

[01:21:19] Duuude-Ron :

You're having a Definitely. You're having a bad day.   So the 100 foot tower say, a 100   foot tower. You don't need to have anybody's permission.   You know, you'll be able to talk to everybody around the world.  

[01:21:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, well, he would Yeah. He'd say it typically would, but, I mean, again, that might be that the county requires  

[01:21:41] Rich Chelson:

some type of paperwork and registration. Well, with with the with the with the 100 foot tower, I would, I would have to contact the airports. You know, I, I would, I would still have to,   cause I am a 100 foot. I would, it would be, it would be courteous of me to talk with the local authorities   and local entities, you know, like city state   or city county governments,   you know, and, and the airports and stuff like that to make sure it's okay.   Now I could put up a 40 foot tower or a 50 foot or a 60 foot tower.  

[01:22:17] Duuude-Ron :

And But let's just go let's just let's just for the sake of argument.   For the sake of argument, just put up a 62 foot tower   and be done with it.  

[01:22:27] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Okay. I should do that. 22 feet.  

[01:22:31] Duuude-Ron :

There you go. 62.   There you go. And  

[01:22:35] Rich Chelson:

and and and, yeah, I could you see, that's the thing. You see, okay.   When, when,   Brian said I could talk to myself   and, you know, I was talking about that, actually, that is by long path.   It is possible. It, it can, I've never done it yet, but, I've talked to AMs   who have talked to   it's funny   because it's weird   how they explain it   when you're talking with someone   by going   most communications go short path, straight line distance. Okay?  

[01:23:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Right. Okay. That's what I figured, Graham.  

[01:23:12] Rich Chelson:

From a point a to point b long path,   it goes   out of back   out back   the backside and around the earth.   Okay. And it, and it still makes the contact to whoever you're talking to.   Let's say, let's say I'm, I'm aiming towards England.   Okay. And let's say I go long path.   You know, the, conditions are right to go long path.   My signal will go around the earth,   talk to   the,   dude in England,   but on, on, on the backside of that signal, I'll be able to   hear what I just said   to him.   And Oh, okay. That means that so so, yeah, in a sense, I will be talking to myself   and him at the same time.  

You hear a slight, like, echo  

[01:24:02] Duuude-Ron :

is Right. White pause. Right.  

[01:24:04] Rich Chelson:

Is the way it's been explained, and that's that's long path communications.   Most,   most of the communications I do   are, are just, short path, which, I mean, that's fine too. I mean, you know, think about it, A 100 watt signal going out, you know,   5 5 to 9000 miles. That's a fee   for a 100 watts.  

[01:24:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Then it's and it's not a freight line.   You're still bouncing the atmosphere.  

[01:24:33] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Well well, every signal bounces through the atmosphere.  

[01:24:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:24:38] Rich Chelson:

At at some time,   you've got   you've got some signals that   that that go in the atmosphere, travel across the atmosphere   like this,   and then come down.   Then that's, that's called,   tropoducking,   I think. Ducting.   I might I might have that term wrong.   It's been a while since I've thought of that term. So oh, boy.  

[01:25:05] Bryan Goodwin:

I know.  

[01:25:07] Duuude-Ron :

Just send a signal map of the earth.  

[01:25:10] Rich Chelson:

What's that?  

[01:25:12] Duuude-Ron :

When you fly map of the earth.   You've ever have you ever heard that term?   Flying nap of the earth?   Nope. Never. Where   doesn't matter   what the altitude is.   Say you're coming into a mountain   range, you're traveling that mountain range   at, say, 200   feet.   So as soon as you clear the top of the mountain range,   you're gonna   go and dive down   and continue to stay 200 feet off of the earth. That's called map of the earth.  

[01:25:46] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Okay. I   I learned something by God. Thank you, dude. I learned something new. I did not know. Honestly, I did not know that.   I mean, in what I'm playing breakout out or break point on a PS 5 and I'm flying the helicopter.   I mean, that's the way I fly.   I fly up over the mountain. As soon as I get over the mountain, I dive   because   the sand, the, SAM sites   will sneak up on me and shoot a missile at my helicopter.  

[01:26:15] Duuude-Ron :

Have you have you ever been able to fly nap of the earth   in a real par within a real aircraft?   No. No. Oh, it's a it is a fucking ball.   Really? It is it is a unique   experience.  

[01:26:33] Rich Chelson:

What   what type of aircraft   did   you partake of that experience in?  

[01:26:40] Duuude-Ron :

C 130.  

[01:26:43] Rich Chelson:

That would be freaking wild.   C 130 and monster of a plane?  

[01:26:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And a Blackhawk.   Damn.  

[01:26:53] Rich Chelson:

Either one would be awesome.  

[01:26:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.   So we   have Jake Tapper and Dana Bush are the the go are the,   2 people doing   the debate, they're the ones,   freaking,   yeah, what's what are you hosting it   or whatever that word is?  

[01:27:15] Rich Chelson:

Moderating it? Yeah. Moderating it. Yeah. Okay. Jake Tapper and   okay.  

[01:27:22] Duuude-Ron :

That's what the commercial says.  

[01:27:24] Rich Chelson:

No. No. That's cool. That's cool.   I believe you do. CNN. So,  

[01:27:30] Duuude-Ron :

yeah, it'll it'll be interesting.   So now that we're on to so   are   you want to change subjects and go to the president the upcoming presidential   debate? It's up to you. Or did I or did I step out of turn? Or did I step out of turn? No. No. No. You Dude. Dude, really? I I mean, how often do we take turns? We just throw shit out there. You know what? Oh, okay.   Okay.   I think that,   you know, it it is going to be interesting   to what. And I I already know who I'm voting for,   because I've voted this direction   my whole life because of   who supports the military,   Republicans   or the Democrats?  

Who supports the military and law enforce?   Well, Republicans do.   So Right. That has always been my direction because of who they support.   But   this is gonna this is,   this debate is gonna be   it's   an old guy versus   a individual   on a toadstool.   It's just gonna be it's it's going to be interesting to watch, and I've never watched any debate. Why? Because   I don't need to watch the debates. I don't care   what they're debating on because   they can say all the stuff that they're gonna do when they get into office   and how much of it actually comes to fruition   with all the red tape because they have to go through congress. They have to go   through the house. They have to go through everybody else to actually get something done.  

Presidential   promises   are just   words spoken out in the air kinda like a fart in the wind.   It's just   out there and,   you know,   it it doesn't   it's just a bunch of words   because most of it is never gonna come to fruition.  

[01:29:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, except that except that Trump did in his first term. He   got   a lot of stuff taken care of.  

[01:29:51] Duuude-Ron :

That that is very true.  

[01:29:53] Bryan Goodwin:

He got he made a lot That's true. Problems, and he started checking those damn things off his list, like, almost day 1.  

[01:30:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And and why was that that he did that?  

[01:30:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Because he's from businessman.  

[01:30:07] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly. He is a businessman.   He is not a politician.   That is not his profession.  

[01:30:15] Rich Chelson:

Exactly. And that's That's exactly   what we need is to run America like a business because America is a business.  

[01:30:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We need somebody   in freaking   bib overalls   and old,   combat boots   running American.   And, you know,   all these special interests, it's like, no. Sorry.   Is it   is it in the best interest of   the American citizens?   Yes or no?   If it's not, then sorry.   I I ain't gonna support it.   You know, but Or like   no politicians   out there are like that because that is not how politics   operates.  

[01:31:03] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. None. And and and people want people want their handheld   and told that everything will be okay. We'll we'll fix it. We'll fix it. And that's what people want.  

[01:31:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They're they're gonna say that, but   nobody really ever fixes   anything   whatsoever.   Mhmm. Because there's too many things that are going to be too many road bumps.  

[01:31:31] Rich Chelson:

Now Plus plus we'd have to worry about offending this person or that person or this race or this creed, this this color or religion or whatever.  

[01:31:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   But, you know,   to be oil independent,   the, XL or the XL pipeline,   to be oil independent.   You know, that got shut down as soon as Biden came into office.   I know. But but but hold on here. Where we could be Leave it or not. Not sufficient.  

[01:32:01] Rich Chelson:

Right?   But, Ron,   check this out.   We have enough oil in Wyoming and Utah right now   that could,   serve us for the next 100 years.   Just sitting  

[01:32:14] Bryan Goodwin:

there. We got enough oil in the in the   West Texas Permian Basin area   to keep us keep us well lued for for several 100 years also.   Right. I mean, we are we are a we're an oil rich nation.   But and the problem is, though, that right now,   we don't we're not even using our own oil.   Mm-mm. And we weren't actually until just here within the last   6   9 to 6 months ago   when when, Biden kinda secretly went, well, we've gotta get the oil the gas prices down because people are starting to really bitch about them gas prices. And so he's very secretly been turning the oil spigot back on, trying to make sure no one notices.   And he I know he's gonna go off and say, and I've lowered oil prices. Prices. You know? Gas prices are lower than they've been in years.  



[01:33:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.  

[01:33:13] Bryan Goodwin:

The head up so fucking high.  

[01:33:15] Rich Chelson:

At the end of at the end of Trump's presidency,   I guarantee   you dollar 86 a gallon. He ain't gonna get him down that low.  

[01:33:23] Bryan Goodwin:

And Oh, no. No. He won't be able to get that low. They that's he doesn't want it down that low.  

[01:33:28] Rich Chelson:

He could. Oh, no. No. I know he don't, but but he could get him down that low.   Let us drill in Texas and Wyoming and Utah. Oh my god.   You know, we would have a surplus of oil.   Yeah.   And and and I will say Arkansas   has a lot higher gas prices than Southern Mississippi.  

[01:33:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.   Because Well, it's because they blocked off all their damn drilling that they were doing.   Hell, they've gone through and done everything they can to to make sure that they can't   they can't drill because all of a sudden they were scared to death. Oh, wait a minute. We got earthquakes.   You've had earthquake.   That was just blaming the wrong damn thing.  

[01:34:09] Rich Chelson:

Let's just put it this way. Yesterday, I paid 2.59 a gallon   on the Mississippi   Gulf Coast in Filmed Jeep up. I stopped today and filled my Jeep up, paid 2.99,   $3. And, up here, it's like 309, 3.15.   Yep. And in Western Oklahoma, it's like 3309.   See that? That's that's stupid.   That is totally especially out there in Oklahoma.   Y'all should be having, you know, dollar 50 gas.  

[01:34:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, you would think that, but, no, we don't.  

[01:34:41] Rich Chelson:

And and Texas, of course, should have dollar 50 gas.  

[01:34:45] Duuude-Ron :

And and here here's a   question for the big ages.   If   the the oil price   is the same   when we buy crude oil,   why isn't the prices   the same   from   Maine to California?   I it's yeah. I don't know.  

[01:35:09] Bryan Goodwin:

There's several different,   factors in for that. One is the amount of taxes that each state charges for   highway taxes.   So they've got that's one of the big changes,   but also,   the number of refineries that are in the area. If you're closer to a refiner, you're gonna have cheaper gas. If you're farther from the refinery,   then you're gonna have more expensive fuel.   So there's, there's those types of factors that are, that are involved.   If you're   near a refinery, you're and you're also near to where they're drilling so that the amount of, traffic because if you go over to, like,   over to to Odessa, the Permian Basin area,   you're gonna have a cheaper fuel,   but it well, again, it's no. No. Not really cheaper because they've got so many damn people there   that the the demand keeps the that keeps prices actually elevated a bit there too. So because yeah. Then then you have demand.  

Is it summer,   fuel versus winter fuel? Because   summer fuel is a different formula.   That and and so that it, it burns, quote, unquote, cleaner   and don't have as many pollutants that come out, during the summer. While in wintertime, you need to have those extra additives in there to keep the fuel, flowing like it needs to.   So,   and the reason why it's not the same across the board is because the government has to stick their goddamn fingers into every goddamn thing. And so they gotta make sure that it's all, you know, as screwed up as possible.  

[01:36:45] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[01:36:46] Rich Chelson:

No. No. Hey. No. Brian's right. I'm not arguing with Brian, but let me ask you this. Do y'all know what the federal   excise tax on gasoline and diesel is right now?  

[01:36:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope.   No. Because, on  

[01:37:00] Rich Chelson:

on a, on, on every gallon of gas for, for,   4 wheeler,   it is 18.4¢   per gallon. So you can look at the pump if it says 3099,   18.4¢   of that   is   a federal   gas tax. Diesel is 24.4¢.  

[01:37:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I know diesel was more.  

[01:37:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But but,   but that's just a federal tax. And then there's state tax on top of that   and is different for every state.   You know, every state has their own fuel tax rate. But but   those taxes right there,   you would cut out probably close to 50¢ a gallon   off of Oh, yeah. Off gas or diesel.   You know, 50 to 60¢ depending on  

[01:37:53] Bryan Goodwin:

whatever it is. Yep. Then you got, then you got your ruby red diesel, and that tells you exactly how much,   how much the the taxes actually are   when you take off the take off the highway taxes.  

[01:38:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. That's the the that's the federal gas tax is the is the is highway tax.   That's for the,   but, yeah, that's,   yeah, the red diesel is number 1.   And, honestly, I wish I wish we still ran that.   I love the smell of that.   I really do.   Oh, I'm telling you, man. When when we ran,   number 1 day or, well, when,   number 1 and number 2 diesel,   there wasn't much difference in them back in the day.   Oh my god.   Diesel fumes.   I love the smell of them.   And I love the smell of gasoline back when it was leaded.  

[01:38:53] Duuude-Ron :

No. Good. Oh.   Yeah. Yeah.   And you know what's another good smell?   Nitromethane.   Nitromethane.   Nitromethane.  

[01:39:04] Rich Chelson:

I'm not I'm not sure about that, dude.  

[01:39:08] Duuude-Ron :

I I Whatever they run-in whatever they run-in the sprint cars on dirt track circuit,   man, love that smell. Yeah.  

[01:39:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's   but but   but, yeah, that stuff will burn your eyes after a while,   I think. That's just me, though.   But, yeah, these  

[01:39:29] Duuude-Ron :

That's not something, you know, you're gonna be   all around every day. Yeah. All the time. But, you know Right. Whenever it's   print covers, oh, yeah. Love that smell.  

[01:39:42] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, back in the day, I loved I loved the smell. I I mean, I I I mean, now now I was I was not a sniffer of gas. I didn't get high for it. But,   but, but, but when, when I was, when, when   we were allowed to pump gas as kids, because nowadays,   oh my God, that's like the end of the world. If you let a kid pump gas,   but   Oh, yeah. No. I I I know. I would I   would sniff the gas tank, man.  

[01:40:13] Duuude-Ron :

I love it.  

[01:40:16] Rich Chelson:

I would.   I would now would sniff the gas tank,   you know, and then diesel when I drove trucks. Oh my God. That just,   you know,   seeing that black smoke roll out them pipes and, and   smelling that diesel.   Yeah. I   I freaking still get excited over   it. Dang. I   I   the good old days, I guess.  

[01:40:44] Duuude-Ron :

The good Yeah. The good old days.   Hose water   And riding in the back of a pickup truck.  

[01:40:51] Rich Chelson:

Fuck yeah.   Game on, dude.  

[01:40:54] Duuude-Ron :

Hell, yeah.   No no helmets when you when you're riding your bicycle   on those homemade   2 by 4   cheap as shit ramps   that   wealth person that rolled over that ramp, the ramp collapsed.   Right?   By the way,  

[01:41:16] Rich Chelson:

and you rack yourself on that bar,   that straight line.   Yeah. Like Yeah. The battle bar. Yeah. God, I Yeah. Think   I can see. And then he'll feel that.  

[01:41:26] Duuude-Ron :

And then you, and then you get up,   go fix your ramp and do it all over again.  

[01:41:33] Rich Chelson:

Oh, hell yeah, dude.   It's like,   you had to, man. You had to save face. Old face. Yeah.  

[01:41:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. What happened to those days?   I tell you what.   When you got home from school, you did your homework, and then get got kicked the fuck out of the house.  

[01:41:52] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   That's exactly right.  

[01:41:55] Duuude-Ron :

You better but you better be close enough to hear the whistle   or dinner   because your ass is gonna be home for dinner, and then you're gonna get kicked out of the house again.   And then   when the street lights came on,   that was your   cue to time to go to the house.  

[01:42:14] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:42:15] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. That was life, man. That was life. And But And, yeah, that was the fucking best life.  

[01:42:21] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, I won't lie. I used to sniff gas tanks.   Gas and diesel, both.   And still would if it smelled good, but it don't smell good no more.  

[01:42:32] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's just like, they used to be able to smit the,   puff on the   nitrous oxide   for the,   for the NOS, for the cars. Yeah.   Yeah. And you can't do that anymore because they all they added the, sulfur hexafluoride   component of that.   And, yeah, you go ahead you go ahead and huff   on some, nitrous oxide now. Yeah. You're gonna be sick as a freaking dog.  

[01:43:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But if you if you do just the, the sulfur hex  

[01:43:08] Duuude-Ron :

fluoride Or not. It's not the   yeah. Yeah. Sulfur hex fluoride is a it's a point   the mixture is   0.06%.  

[01:43:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But but it's, it's a,   the cool thing about sulfur hexafluoride   is it's the exact opposite of healing.   And that if you take a big old,   big old, lung full of, sulfur hexafluoride   instead of having a high voice like helium does,   you get this low voice and and it it it does the exact opposite.  

[01:43:42] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it seems how I'm allergic to sulfur.   It's just gonna fuck me up. Oh  

[01:43:48] Rich Chelson:

oh, god. Hold   on. What y'all do   what y'all use do   doing using this big ass word at 9:30 at night? My brain can't even wrap wrap my head around that yet.   So for what? Hexa. Hexa Flora.  

[01:44:06] Duuude-Ron :

Both of Hexa Flora.  

[01:44:08] Rich Chelson:

So for For Hexa Flora.   And and Any anyway.   Listen to dude here just just freaking rattle it off. That's awesome.   I heard that. I I was stunned, man. I was stunned.  

[01:44:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's the industry that I'm in.  

[01:44:23] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Okay.   So okay.   So do you haul any of that stuff?  

[01:44:30] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[01:44:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Is it flammable, or or does it go boom?  

[01:44:37] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, it can. Yeah. Now,   is it nitrous oxide? Can it? Oh, yeah. Nitrous  

[01:44:42] Bryan Goodwin:

oxide. Well, yeah. Nitrous oxide. Yeah. It is yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. That's   I thought you're talking about sulfur explorer.  

[01:44:50] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. No. We don't run. We don't.   That no. We don't run the pure stuff. No.  

[01:44:57] Rich Chelson:

No. That's that's that's what I was asking. Does the sulfur   hexafluoride   yeah. I think I got that right.   Does it go boom or or or does it, you know   No.  

[01:45:11] Duuude-Ron :

No? Okay. No. No. Yeah. Sulfanex fluoride is a nonflammable   gas.  

[01:45:18] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:45:19] Duuude-Ron :

Now hydrogen on the other   end of the spectrum   well, you saw the picture that I sent to you of   that was a 100 that that all those   all those packs that I ran up to Grand Prairie,   that was a 108 that was a 188   cylinders   of hydrogen.   Pure hydrogen. Yeah.   Yeah. That would,   yeah, that would go that would make a big hole in the freaking ground.  

[01:45:48] Rich Chelson:

That would leave a mark.  

[01:45:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. You would definitely,   you would definitely have some humidity in the air after that too.  

[01:45:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh my god. And and about a 44   to 8 foot hole   in the fucking highway.   Now The width of the highway.  

[01:46:09] Rich Chelson:

No. You're saying that's width, 4 to 8 foot?   How deep?  

[01:46:14] Duuude-Ron :

That's the depth.   4 to 8 feet. That's the   The depth Okay.   The width   is   a 4 or 5 lane highway.  

[01:46:24] Rich Chelson:

Oh, damn.   That's That would yeah. Big hole.  

[01:46:28] Duuude-Ron :

That's a big hole. That would stop. That would stop traffic for a minute. That would stop traffic for a minute.  

[01:46:35] Rich Chelson:

You could definitely regulate rush hour   with a hold of that size.   Just saying.  

[01:46:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. You could.   And I I hallowed every week.  

[01:46:47] Rich Chelson:

You're a better man than me, dude.   I have props for you.   That,   yeah, I would. Yeah.   I mean, I did haul, I did haul some asthma when I was,   you know, driving truck. You know, I hauled paint. I hauled corrosive. I hauled flammable.   But yeah.   Yeah. Explosive like that?   Never.   You know, I I think I think I did run explosive   placards   once,   but it wasn't,   1.4.   It was   it was something else.   It wasn't as   what's that?  

[01:47:25] Duuude-Ron :

The 5.1?   I think so. You're talking you're talking about true explosives, like,   dynamite,   thermite. No.  

[01:47:35] Rich Chelson:

Never hold that stuff. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Never.   Oh. Never hold that stuff.  

[01:47:41] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   I I I did I did haul I did haul a little bit  

[01:47:46] Rich Chelson:

dangerous when wet.  

[01:47:49] Duuude-Ron :

And Okay.  

[01:47:50] Rich Chelson:

I don't think I ever hauled anything   that would mess with marine life.   I'm almost sure I didn't.   But, yeah, mainly, it was just paint, you know, stuff like that or soda   separated   because it's flammable and corrosive.  

[01:48:05] Duuude-Ron :

So   Right.  

[01:48:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It was just it was just the light stuff I'd hold because if it was   major stuff, I'm like, uh-uh. Y'all don't pay me enough because   they was on they was   they was on only giving me an extra nickel per mile   to Holly.  

[01:48:24] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.  

[01:48:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Wow.   Trust me. I'm sorry. A nickel per mile on a 1500 mile trip does not pay the bills if I get hurt.  

[01:48:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   I think the difference now between   have a non HAZMAT   and a HAZMAT endorsement   is, like,   18¢   a mile   difference?  

[01:48:49] Rich Chelson:

That's better, but still, in my book, that's not enough.  

[01:48:53] Duuude-Ron :

Well, in in in mine, it doesn't matter if I don't have the endorsement. I don't have a job.  

[01:48:58] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[01:49:00] Duuude-Ron :

You know, I have to have a a tanker endorsement as well.  

[01:49:03] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I didn't know that.  

[01:49:05] Duuude-Ron :

You don't. You have to have a tanker endorsement   to haul   a tube   trailer.  

[01:49:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, tube trailer. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense.   Okay. Because it's a tanker.  

[01:49:17] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. They're tubes.   It's compressed gas in tubes,   but you have to have a tanker endorsement   to haul it Oh. To move it. Oh, yeah.   How many tubes are they gonna make  

[01:49:32] Rich Chelson:

up the trailer? Depends.  

[01:49:34] Duuude-Ron :

They have anywhere from   5 tubes to 9 tubes.  

[01:49:40] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:49:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I've got call 5, 7, 9, 12 tubes.  

[01:49:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I've never pulled a tanker.   Never tried that either.   Even though even though I did   even though I did have the endorsement, I never tried it. That's like doubles and triples.  

[01:49:56] Duuude-Ron :

Never tried it. I had the endorsement, but never tried it. Yeah. And I have the I have that endorsement for doubles and triples, but I'd never called it. And why do I have the endorsement?   Because the endorsement cost $10 and to take the test.   Why not?   Right. Why not endorsement?   Same way with the tanker. It was a test and $10.  

[01:50:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I mean, that's that's why I had well, you know, I just   when I got my CDL in the nineties,   I just took everything   just because I didn't know   what I was gonna do. Come across. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I mean, I jumped in hauling meat   for the first,   god, 10 years.   And then I think   see, and then I went to drive in, which oh god. That was a switch because I didn't have that that freaking motor on the front of my trailer. Made me mad for a while.   And then,   then I found flatbedding,   and that's what I loved. I fell in love with that.  

[01:50:59] Duuude-Ron :

Well Yeah. I love I run a flatbed with tombstones.   Well, I'm   flatbed with tombstones.  

[01:51:08] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:51:09] Duuude-Ron :

Because the tube because the tombstones hold the pallets on the truck.   Right. Yeah. That's the security aspect.  

[01:51:17] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Yeah. No. I I I love flatbed because well, I loved hauling steel.   Hated hauling wood or pipe   or a plastic pipe. I hated that.   But but steel?   Oh, man. I'd how steel all over this country.  

[01:51:34] Duuude-Ron :

What are you talking about? Like, I beam   type steel?  

[01:51:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I beams, rebar, flat steel,   the rolls,   rolled steel.   And and the thing is that a lot of people   a lot of companies nowadays   don't let dry because there's there's, like,   there's,   3 different ways to holler coil.   You can holler at suicide,   shotgun,   or,   eye to the sky.   And a lot of companies will not let drivers haul it, suicide style anymore   because that is honestly the most dangerous way to do it because   you've got it blocked and you've got it chained with, like, 4 or 5 chains.   Okay. But if those chains cut loose,   they'll roll   and they'll   roll right over your cab.  

I mean, they'll Yep. They'll they'll press you. That's that's so Every,  

[01:52:31] Duuude-Ron :

yeah, in every role that I see going down the road   is still suicide.  

[01:52:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, yeah, a lot of people still hold them suicide, but but a lot of your bigger companies   and, some of your small companies, because I drove for 1 flatbed head company   and,   I would always pick up 2 to 4 coils   going to Florida.   Right?  

[01:52:53] Duuude-Ron :

And Okay.  

[01:52:55] Rich Chelson:

I wanted all in suicide. Nope. Can't do it   because,   the place where I loaded out would have loaded them that way.   But my company   and the receiver   stated that they had to be eye to the sky.   And so they were laid on a pallet and then the pallet was set on my my truck and   I had to cross pattern   the top of the coil.  

[01:53:19] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah.  

[01:53:21] Rich Chelson:

And, so yeah. So, yeah, I hold them like that. But, yeah, I loved howling suicide. Shotgun is a pain in the ass if you ask me.   Yeah. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't like   because the coils are turned sideways.   Right.   You know? And, yeah, I, yeah, I freaking hated shotgun.   So the side was was my preferred way.  

[01:53:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Well, that's the way they run them with the, 50,000   pound coils.   Mhmm.  

[01:53:54] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yeah. My   my my, yeah, my truck, when I ran flatbed, I could load   safely load, like, 52,000   and still be under 80,000.   I was that light. But but,   the most I ever was able to get on,   was I think 49 and some change   on the trailer.   And I was still under 80, so   it was cool.   I didn't mind, Dave.  

[01:54:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. My first job out of the military was in a steel tube   manufacturing   plant, and   all the steel that came into that facility   were   48 to 54,000   pound coils.   Mhmm.   Yep. Yep. And we used to get a lot of them through,   railway.   And, yeah, operating that crane and moving those coils around, that was fun.  

[01:54:48] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I bet it was.  

[01:54:49] Duuude-Ron :

It's cold, though.   Yeah. But don't don't let that thing start rolling on you.   Mhmm. Because somebody   somebody gonna get squashed   and Yeah. That's for damn sure.  

[01:55:01] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's like that's like when   when I hauled out of that,   just out of Virginia.   There's a steel mill that I went to all the time.   From there, I pulled mostly rebar out. Sometimes I'd pull out,   I beams,   but, I pulled   a whole lot of rebar   out. And,   oh, yeah. They they had them overhead cranes. Oh my god. They were anal   about   the path that those cranes ran.   They wouldn't let anybody near or around them.  

[01:55:35] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. But  

[01:55:37] Rich Chelson:

but, yeah, I would all, rebar out, and then, like, I would go to Timken in in, Ohio   and,   pick up solid   solid steel freaking rides, like,   inch, inch and a half thick.   Yeah. Take them take them to,   and I'm talking,   you know,   20 foot rides.   Yeah. I, I forget. I forget how many I would I would have on my trailer, but I would take them to Timken bearing   back in Virginia,   and they would make,   bearings out of them, bearing races.   You know, they would make Timken bearings.   It was actually pretty cool.   Yeah.   That was actually kinda fun.   I know some people might think be like, good god. That's boring as shit.  

No. That's actually cool.   You know, think about it. You know, like like a brain, you go to,   you know, like,   you know, sawmills and and drywall places and stuff like that. Do you ever go look at how the stuff's made   or be able to?  

[01:56:45] Bryan Goodwin:

I can look at some of the places. Like, there's part of the one of the barns where they do the drying   at.   You can, what, sit there and watch the, the sheets they come in, and   they've actually got a a roller system that rolls everything sideways,   but they'll it'll go through a heat, through, an oven on one direction, and then it actually gets folded up or they the track itself folds up and comes back down. And so that it flips the,   the the sheet rock over, and then it runs it back through the other,   the other Okay.   Oven. And so I I get to watch that from time to time. So, yeah, I that but that the the full the full set of steps, now I haven't   been able to, to   talk anybody and to give me the grand tour. I'll probably do that, like, on the last day of my that I'm there. I'll probably walk yeah. Walk in. Hey.  

How about a tour of this place? I've been pulling off product out for the past 3 years also.   Why don't you why don't you why don't you, hook me up there,   there, old buddy boy? So  

[01:57:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And that's you see, that's like that's like the steel mill that that I ran out of. Now now now I didn't get to see   it from the start to the end,   but,   I had seen them pull   a freaking bundle of 3 eights rebar.   It was still hot. I mean, it was just fresh out of being made. The press. Yeah.   And, and, and the rides were still   had a red tint to them. They weren't fully cooled.   Right. You know? So, I mean, that was actually pretty cool.   You know? So it just I don't know.  

[01:58:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Small things excite me. Oh, no. I've always loved watching the   watching the manufacturing. I mean, how how is this made is pro oh, it's probably one of my more favorite shows that I like to watch. I mean, hell, even now, I,   bit I think it's Business Insider   does these little   little,   why is it so expensive?   Sir, types of, videos.   Okay. And   they go through the process and explain why what it is that they do and, you know, all   and why their stuff is a lot more expensive than others. So, like, there's some,   one of the ones that really sticks my head, there's one about,   that there's a type of   down   that they use that comes from a from a wild bird in Greenland.  

And they're only allowed to pick   so much of the down from the nest of these,   of these birds.  

[01:59:29] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[01:59:30] Bryan Goodwin:

And   and be able to process the process those into, like,   comforters and pillows, things like that. But this this this down is supposed to be even more warm and,   and soothing   than, like, goose down.   So it's so and yeah. And what I was looking it up, and these were, like, queen-size   queen-size comforters are, like, $10,000  

[01:59:55] Duuude-Ron :

type of Oh, shit.  

[01:59:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I was like, hell, yeah. I'm gonna have one someday just because.  

[02:00:02] Rich Chelson:

Well, let me, let me ask you this. And, and I don't know. I don't know if you can answer this question because   you were in the Navy,   but   would, would, would these comforters be the whoopie?  

[02:00:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Honestly, I would have to say, I don't fully know because we didn't have in   in the navy. We had we had steel wool blankets.  

[02:00:24] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's why that's Literally, steel wool blankets. Yes. Uh-huh. Yep.  

[02:00:28] Rich Chelson:

That's why that's why that's why I said it like that, dude. I just messed it with you because I knew I knew the navy,  

[02:00:34] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, does, you know, doesn't know about the Ruby. I mean, Yeah. I was gonna say WOBE. About the WOBE. A WOBE? What the hell's a WOBE?  

[02:00:41] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, dude. I'm telling you. Oh, I love The literal term is punch aligner, but whoopie?   Hell, yeah.   You can't be you can't be a whoopie.  

[02:00:54] Rich Chelson:

No. No. And and and check this out. Check this out. Before I left on my trip,   I went to my storage unit yesterday,   and and I took out my my ham radio gear because I'm not playing radio   while I'm up there or anything.   And I made sure to   take everything that I normally take, like like freaking recovery gear, my first aid kit,   my Woobe.   It's   it goes it's   when I go on a trip, my Woobe and my Bible are the 2 main things that that that always go in there. On a trip. Everything else would be damned,   but I'm not leaving the movie.   I'll wait wait in my coffee pot too because I brought my camp pot.  

I've got water in the jeep, and I've got instant coffee. So   You all set? I can have my coffee. I can sleep and be warm and comfortable,   and I always have my Bible. Hey. What else do I need, man?  

[02:01:49] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? But, another,   another product they should put on,   why is it so expensive is Japanese calligraphy.   And this stuff is actually what it is is they actually,   have   a a it's a soap room is what it is. And they have little oil,   vegetable   oil lamps that they light. And then on top, then on top of the lamp, they set a bowl   that collects all the soot   that's burnt off. And then they go through, and it's, like,   several times a day, they take, they grab each, each one of the,   of the bowls   and scoop the soot out   and and put it back. And so they're all constantly running   around on the circuit of collecting all the soot. Then they take the soot. They combine it with,   with some oils, animal fat,   and a couple other things   to turn it into a glue, or turn it into this, end of the end of the ink sticks. But because they're the ink is just,   is just these little   squares. But what they do is they actually   have to step on it and and knead it into the right consistency. And then they'll go through, they measure it out, they chop it up, and they make the tournament of the sticks. And then it has to air dry   for, like,   years.  



[02:03:13] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[02:03:13] Bryan Goodwin:

And then Yeah. I saw that show. Because they have, yeah, because they can't throw it dry too fast or it   cracks. So they have to really,   very slowly   and and methodically   air dry these things, and they take years.   Wow. And people will pay 1,000 of dollars for a a for a premium stick,   of calligraphy.   Professional professional Japanese calligraphers. Yeah. They are I mean, they're fucking serious about their their art.  

[02:03:47] Rich Chelson:

Wow. I mean   okay. I get it, but   spending 1,000 doll   1,000 of dollars on on an ink stick or Yeah. You know?   That is crazy.  

[02:04:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, that's  

[02:04:01] Duuude-Ron :

What's the difference between a Jeep and   a Jaguar   or a Ferrari?   Okay.  

[02:04:10] Bryan Goodwin:

So better better construction, the other 2 go kinda faster.  

[02:04:14] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So what's the cost the average cost of a Jeep? My Jeep cost me   with   the model that I have that had all the bells and whistles.   I bought it used   for   $50,000.   Okay? Okay.  

[02:04:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Yay me. Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding. Buzz thread. Alright. Yep. What's the Porsche running?   I don't know, but goddamn, there's a lot of them running around these days. So I think the prices dropped. I think they're starting to sell them to Walmart.  

[02:04:44] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So But now the big Barrows   Which model though, dude? Well, okay. For the sake of argument,   a Porsche, $100,000.  

[02:04:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Porsche Cayenne. Yeah. Well, now Porsche Cayennes are are, I think, probably about 60 to 70,000 now.  

[02:05:01] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Let me look.  

[02:05:03] Duuude-Ron :

That is  

[02:05:04] Rich Chelson:

Okay. 292 running.  

[02:05:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. So 80,000.   So they're the same, but Cayennes are the same prices as as Jeep Wagoneers.  

[02:05:13] Rich Chelson:

Right. Now now Ferrari, you're looking at 2.50 minimum. Yeah. Yeah.   Minimum 250,   before add ons.   Right. And Jaguar,  

[02:05:25] Bryan Goodwin:

hang on. Let me Jaguar's about about 60 to 80 also.  

[02:05:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I see.   I see. Jaguar   F Pace.   That's a luxury car.   Let's see.   57.   You can get a Jaguar for 57,000.   Wow.  

[02:05:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Nice to know. Jaguar?  

[02:05:46] Rich Chelson:

No. It's, F Pace. It's it's an SUV.   I don't I don't think I don't think they make,   say, hang on. There's a Jaguar XF.   I think that looks more like the yeah. That's better.   No. You can get that for 49,850,000.   So   so, yeah, apparently, Jaguars are kinda cheap.  

[02:06:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But okay. Out of all 4 of those vehicles   ranging from 50,000   to 250,000,   Yes. 3 of those vehicles   on the line   will smoke my Jeep   without a doubt.   They go from 0 to 60   in seconds.   Jeeps go to 0   from 0 to 60,   maybe.  

[02:06:37] Rich Chelson:

Depending on the year.  

[02:06:39] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So we   it   0 to 60, that's a maybe.   Now   can any of these cars follow me where I wanna go?   No. Well, no.   It is all about your perspective and what do you wanna pay for your perspective.  

[02:06:56] Rich Chelson:

That's right.  

[02:06:57] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. Yep. Would I ever own a me, myself, and I, would I ever own a sports car?   Hell no.   I I have tried at 6 feet,   1 inch.   Getting into a Corvette   ain't freaking happening. That was the most uncomfortable   being in the cockpit of these newer Corvettes   with the seat all the way back. But   Oh, they look   son. Yeah. They look pretty, but not comfortable for a tall person to freaking drive.  

[02:07:32] Rich Chelson:

Right. Well, hell, I   I I can't bend like that anymore. So, you know, I I I wouldn't fool myself into a pretzel. You're  

[02:07:42] Duuude-Ron :

trying to get it out, and when you're trying to get out, you have to roll out.  

[02:07:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I would like to see see Ron after he said all that, and then all sudden have a big big booby,   blonde come along and say, hey.   Why don't you, why don't you drive my my Porsche for me?  

[02:08:01] Duuude-Ron :

Now I will tell you one of the funnest rides   that I was ever in   was on   a Porsche 911   dual   supercharged   engine Oh, shit. Going   going down   the,   Audubon.  

[02:08:22] Rich Chelson:

Oh oh oh oh my god.  

[02:08:25] Duuude-Ron :

And it was one of the salesperson   that I had sold the car and bought another one that was I was getting ready to come back   from Germany.   And   I bought the car in Germany. It was currently being   manufactured in Canada   to be delivered to me in Texas.   So you figure that one out.   Anyway,   you know, when I sold the car that I traded in,   you know, we didn't have a car for me to get back up to.   So getting on the Autobahn with that Porsche 911   dual supercharger,   or turbocharger,   Yeah.   200 and   210   mile an hour going down to Audubon.   Wow. Okay.  

A fucking   rush.  

[02:09:17] Rich Chelson:

Man, that would wake your pecker heart.  

[02:09:20] Duuude-Ron :

That you talk about   you talk about   yeah. That motherfucker was hard as a rock.  

[02:09:28] Rich Chelson:

That was  

[02:09:30] Duuude-Ron :

that was an experience that I got to do once and will never be able to do again.  

[02:09:36] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[02:09:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Just like jumping out of an airplane   that a c 47   that was actually used   in one of the jumps   in World War 2.  

[02:09:51] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that would be cool.  

[02:09:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   That was a lot of fun.   The jump out big. So that   that they used in,   I think it was the Salerno   drop, but I'm not exactly sure. It wasn't the Sicily drop.   I think it was a Cerro Negro drop that that plane specifically,   dropped pair of Kupers on in World War 2.  

[02:10:16] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[02:10:17] Duuude-Ron :

That would be cool. That that was a rush.   Oh, oh, I was I was in at the VA the other day  

[02:10:24] Rich Chelson:

and,   got to talk to,   Vietnam vet. He was with the 7th calf, the air calf.  

[02:10:32] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[02:10:33] Rich Chelson:

He was in,   67, 68.   And,   he was it was it was actually really, really cool to get to talk to him. He was he was a really nice guy.   He just he, you know, told me a little bit about about the tunnel system   that they had in Vietnam and, you know, everything like that. And that,   you know, he saw,   there's this,   I think this was during,   Caisson   that,   he was actually run. He was   he was, he was your kindred spirit because he was also a forwarder deserter, he told me. And Oh, yeah?   Yeah. Yeah. He said   he said there's this one valley,   they could look at, and he's like,   their tunnel system was so elaborate   that that in his valley, they they had a tunnel system come out, and he said   it it looked like just bees coming out. And there were so many of them.  

And,   they, they had called for air strikes and everything like that. I mean, it was it was,   I mean, honestly, I was in awe.   You know? I was just like, damn.   You know? Because I mean, you know, most   most Vietnam vets won't won't talk a lot about what happened over there. But but, you know and and I mean, this guy this guy didn't, you know, go into details or anything like, you know, major details   or in-depth details. But,   but, I mean, it was just cool just to sit there and talk with him for a few minutes and and   listen to him and everything. But, yeah, he said he was there during the 68 Tet Offensive,   Caisson,   and a few of the other skirmishes   during those times.  



[02:12:22] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah.  

[02:12:24] Rich Chelson:

Yep. That just, that just popped into my head. I just, I just had to throw that in there.  

[02:12:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, hope hopefully,   we remember this.   I got a story for you,   concerning a   specific   Vietnam veteran   on our next podcast.   It is the   it'll almost bring tears to your eyes just to   listen to the story.   And it brings tears to my eyes every time because   my involvement with   the soldier.  

[02:13:00] Rich Chelson:

So Okay. Well   Hopefully, we we note in Google Drive, Brian.  

[02:13:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.   Ron's Vietnam vet friend.  

[02:13:09] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yep. I'm I'm   yeah. I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna make a note in the Google Drive, so   so we see it for next week  

[02:13:18] Duuude-Ron :

Alright. As soon as it loads. Yep. Vietnam vet, and then next, put put   CAO,   guy's the assistance officer.  

[02:13:29] Bryan Goodwin:

So alright. Well, while you're putting that in, I wanna go ahead and say, hey, guys. Thank you all very much for actually listening, taking the time, and hearing the whole show.   We are a podcasting   2.0   compliance show, which means we operate off of time, talent, treasure.   If you've got, time and you wanna be able to help some in some way, we'd love to be able to, take that,   take that offer and see where we can apply it. If you are   a, a, I don't know, a graphics designer, and you wanna be able to do   wanna make a a a a show art or make,   make chapter art, we'd love to have you do doing that, being able to help us with in that department.  

And then we also have,   have the need,   for for the treasure. If you happen to if you feel like we have provided any type of value to you,   please,   you send us a a value in any way possible.   You do go to 2 grumpy bets   dotcom, and you'll see the value for value there. You can actually send us, fiat currency,   little green certificates of appreciation if you if you will.   And, you can send it to us. That way, that goes to PayPal. Or if you like, and you have a podcast 2.0 client   podcast,   listening app, you can also send us   satoshis,   and,   with those satoshis, you can actually send us a boostergram.  

And when we start receiving boostergrams, we will start actually,   mentioning those folks on   the, on the show at the, here in about this time here at the end. We, or if you want, you can also go through and say, you know what? Every minute, that you listen to, send 5 satoshis,   and you can we can you can stream satoshis. You can, boost to us. There's many different ways you'd send sent satoshis over to us. Great different ways. So, great different things,   are coming about. We've all got,   many of the different,   podcasting 2.0,   features,   implemented,   and we're gonna be implementing even more as we go. So guys, with that, I wanna say thank you very much. If you liked this show, you liked anything that was mentioned in there, you think that, you know, somebody who would love to listen to this show, share this show with them. And if you liked it, then please, by all means,   on your podcast, The Gap of Choice, there is a subscribe but there's a follow but subscribe and or follow. Hit that but and and let and   go ahead and subscribe. You'll get this,   downloaded to you every every Sunday,   Sunday night, Monday morning. It will arrive and re be ready for you to listen to on your way to work and on your way back for a couple   days. So, guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for listening. We are incredibly blessed that we're able to do this. We're getting our live thing figured out. We now know that if, if our main our main,   live guy is out and about and all around and is away from his house, then probably gonna have to wait to not do a live. We'll just have to do a pre do a recorded show and just call it good. So,   we're going to, we're gonna keep trying to get that figured out so that we can actually go live. Because, again, podcasting 2.0 stuff actually notifies you when we go live on the on air, and you can actually listen to the show as it's being recorded.  

And, you'll hear other things that might end up getting cut out from time to time, like the everything that we talked about,   before the,   before the the 7:30 mark where we did our 10 seconds of silence, and that's where we're gonna everything before that is gonna get cut off and is is   done away with so that   the the recorded listener doesn't get to hear all the extra little diddly squats that we were talking about before then. So, guys, thank you again for listening. Gals, also, I don't mean to do that to to   shove you away on that, but we thank y'all for so much for listening. We are growing. We are our stats are showing up to the right, and that is amazing. And we couldn't do that without you. So, guys, I wanna say thank you very much. Rich, do you have any, last words for the, for the audience?  



[02:17:50] Rich Chelson:

No. Basically, just about what you   about what you were saying. I just wanna say thank you for for all the all the listens we've gotten.   And as Brian said, yeah,   follow us, subscribe,   you know, like our show, share it out with people if, you know, if you found, you know, value in it or think it's funny or, you know, if you don't like us,  

[02:18:12] Bryan Goodwin:

tell other people about it. Let let them listen in, I'll like that. So see how much of an asshole would be really are. Can't believe can't believe these dumbass on here.   You gotta listen to this. Right on. Tell them to listen.  

[02:18:26] Rich Chelson:

There you go. And,   reach out to us. Let us know you're list, and there or if you wanna hear a topic,   send an email to brian@[email protected]   or send one to me [email protected].   And, yeah, we will answer them. And, you know, if you wanna talk to the dude,   send me your brand emails and we will make sure dude gets them and   and everything like this. Because, yeah, dude   dude loves to, hide in the shadows and everything. So that's about all I got. Thank you all for listening, and we love doing this. If you love us, hey. Just say hey or drop us an email or a like or share it with your friends.  

[02:19:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely. So   and, dude, what do you got, as parting words?  

[02:19:16] Duuude-Ron :

Parting words as always.   If you have a friend   that is any type of a military veteran that is going through a hard time   and   they need you to listen,   please listen to them   because   I, myself,   having PTSD   from being in a combat zone.   Yes. I have my own demons,   but they're   right now,   it is 22 a day, which is roughly   22   veterans a day commit suicide,   and then there's 22   too many.   So   listen.   Check-in with your vets.   And I would also add,   first   trust   me. Their job is also   very, very difficult.   You know,   give a handshake   to a first responder,   police officer, firefighter,   ambulance,   what have you, and tell them, hey.  

You're doing a good job because they don't hear it enough.   And that are that is my parting words for   this week.  

[02:20:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. Well, then, guys, again, thank y'all so much for, for listening.   We are highly,   greatly and tremendously appreciative of   of the,   of the listens and the the new folks that come along. Again, subscribe, follow,   when as when and as you can. And, we will see y'all next Thursday.   May by may not be we probably won't be live, but still well,  

[02:20:58] Rich Chelson:

who knows? We're we're gonna be playing about air. So, anyhow We might be. And and and, I will be in a new position next year. And so I'll probably drop my background and let y'all see where I'm at.  

[02:21:12] Bryan Goodwin:

It's up there.   No, on our luck, we're gonna have some, some drunk biker chick walk by with no top on. So  

[02:21:22] Rich Chelson:

I can't   confirm or deny   that is or isn't gonna happen.  

[02:21:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Watches get kicked off a Twitch.   Hey, hey. It's not even my fault. I didn't know she was walking around there.  

[02:21:37] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.   But, nah. I don't know. We'll see we'll see what happens   with with everything.  

[02:21:44] Bryan Goodwin:

So alright. Well, guys, y'all take care. Got   Rich, dude. Y'all have yourselves good rest of the night. We will see y'all next Thursday.   Till then, guys.  

[02:21:55] Duuude-Ron :

Bye. Y'all be safe out there. See y'all. Be safe, guys.   See you. Alright. Bye. Bye.