Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this week’s Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, I open the mics with Bryan and the Duuude for a sprawling, honest hang that runs from health and MRIs to ham radio, Linux life, dogs, decluttering, and a heavy dose of real‑talk on politics and insurance. We kick off with Rich’s marathon MRI session, steroid shots, pain management, and the search for relief through acupuncture and even cupping. That flows right into ham radio world: solar flares, auroras, contest scores, chasing DX across the Caribbean, Africa, and Asia, and the ongoing quest for a clean sweep amid radio blackouts. We also get nerdy about ditching Windows for Linux Mint, terminal scripts, logging software, and why onions and Tor matter.

From there, it’s pure life: decluttering garages, estate sale realities, and the insanity of insurance inspections. We riff on playgrounds, liability, and how risk-averse culture and policy shape everyday life. We swap veteran shop stories—motor pools, gun bunnies, generator mishaps, jump boots, and mirror shines—before landing on the pure joy of dogs. Bella and her buddy Ringo steal the show with paper‑towel confetti, toilet‑paper “snow,” a murdered turkey toy, and the truth that a tired dog is a happy dog. It’s the kind of episode that feels like sitting around the table with friends: practical, salty, funny, and real.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help the land of each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan,   Rich, and the duuude.  

[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:

There's no more to brave Recording in progress.   Wondering how to break loose Hello?  

[00:00:40] Duuude-Ron :

Rich.  

[00:00:41] Rich Chelson:

Hey. Yeah. Can you hear me? Hey. There you are. There I am.  

[00:00:49] Bryan Goodwin:

So what's happening in your world?  

[00:00:52] Rich Chelson:

Thank god yesterday's over.  

[00:00:54] Bryan Goodwin:

It's   yeah. Yes. So what was going on yesterday?  

[00:00:58] Rich Chelson:

I   I went ahead and, actually, three MRIs done in one sitting. Three?   Yeah. My neck and both shoulder.  

[00:01:09] Bryan Goodwin:

So they couldn't they couldn't do   all three of them at the same time?  

[00:01:15] Rich Chelson:

No.   No.   And and the neck, okay, I figured that was separate. And then I   when she was wanting to do the right shoulder, I asked her. I said, can we do both shoulders at once? Because, I mean, I was already, like,   silently   screaming   full head off   after my neck. And she said,   no. I'm sorry. I can't.   I'm like, damn.   So I had to do the right shoulder and see the neck. Well,   I was I was on that MRI table for an hour and a half solid.  

[00:01:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, wow.  

[00:01:52] Unknown:

Oh, that fucking dude. Hey. I You can't move.  

[00:01:55] Rich Chelson:

No. No. And and I got home, and, of course, I've been gone all day. And Bella was happy to see me, and, man, that and, I mean, I'm still not   where I've been at. I mean, I've been hurting, but I'm I'm a lot better today than   I was yesterday.  

[00:02:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow.  

[00:02:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   It it it fucking   tore me up. I don't care who you are.   And so so yeah. And and, yeah, when you texted last night, I had heard my phone go off, and,   yeah, my brain wasn't even thinking.  

[00:02:31] Bryan Goodwin:

And I wasn't even thinking that. It's Wednesday.  

[00:02:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, no. It just I I was just I was just outside trying to get this pain level down to nothing Right. As as much as I could.   And I heard my phone go off, and I I was like, yeah. No.   I I don't know what it is. I don't care. And then I didn't even hear it go off the second time. I just sat down in my chair. It's like, yeah. I better check my phone.   And sure as shit, I saw both of your techs.   I'm like, yeah. No. Mm-mm. No.  

[00:03:03] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I was   I got, I was, like, going, hey, man. I can do this. And then I got to thinking about it. I was like,   oh god. No. I'm gonna get I gotta get up at 03:00 in the morning. I've been going to bed at seven   every night. So  

[00:03:17] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[00:03:19] Bryan Goodwin:

I usually get home about six, 06:30. I drop in the shower, wash about 10 pounds of dirt and sand off of me, and then   sit down, grab a make myself a sandwich or two and   snarf that, and then I crawl into bed.   Right.   So so, yeah, I was I was a bit worn out. I was, like, going, yeah. Yeah. Okay. If he if Rich doesn't want to and I didn't hear anything. So I was like, you know what? Forget it. I'll I'm going to bed. So Right. Yeah. I don't yeah. I don't blame you there. It's just yeah. It's it's just  

[00:03:54] Rich Chelson:

I I was in so much pain. I I I was like,  

[00:03:58] Bryan Goodwin:

anybody wants to talk to me, guess what? Sucks to be No love. Yep. No love tonight. I am I am zoning.  

[00:04:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   I   and, yeah, yeah, it's just oh my god. It's yeah. It's been crazy, man.   Well, at least they got it all done. I mean, yeah, it's torture for you. But Well, I mean I mean, here's the kicker. Yeah. It is torture, but here's the kicker. The twenty fourth,   I have to go get stabbed in the neck.  

[00:04:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Are you gonna get   the steroid shots, or are you gonna get,   the I want it just, the painkiller. I can't think of what it's called.  

[00:04:35] Rich Chelson:

No. That's gonna do an epidural on my neck.  

[00:04:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Ah, okay. So, yeah, you're gonna get painkiller.  

[00:04:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And, hopefully, it it works and takes in effect, and I gotta go see my ortho doc to find out about my shoulders, but   those will be probably that same week or the week after.   And   I'm not sure exactly what they're talking about, but yeah.  

[00:05:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow.   Mhmm.   Well, they can get get you figured out so that you're not, you know, you're not walking around with those   as a as an   as an example of why BC powder is still needing to be be used. We can  

[00:05:19] Rich Chelson:

Alright.   Well, I've got a I've got another appointment December   that it's with Whole Health again. Because last time I had it was up in Iowa. But Right.   I've gotta watch his video. It's an hour and a half long, so I'm probably gonna take a nap.   But, anyway,   I gotta watch his video because with Whole Health,   I can get access. I'm I'm, gonna try   acupuncture.   I don't know if it's gonna work, but I'm gonna try it.   I mean, I've I've heard people have success with it. I've I've I've talked to a few people.   And,   you know,   they say it works. They swear by it. And,   like like, one lady I talked to,   she said her husband had it done for his back,   and she said that   it actually works. And it need,   you know, it needs to go back once a year   and   have it done. But he said, yeah. It works.  



[00:06:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Yeah. I was gonna say it probably get did get you doing a little   little acupuncture, I even have you try some cupping   and, Some what? Yeah. No. Cupping. No.  

[00:06:33] Rich Chelson:

No. I No. No. No.  

[00:06:35] Bryan Goodwin:

No. Not spooning. Cupping.  

[00:06:37] Rich Chelson:

No.  

[00:06:39] Bryan Goodwin:

You don't you don't even know what cupping is, do you? No. I don't, but it don't sound good. Well, what basically, what it is   Continue on, Chip. And what I'm talking about, there was a cough or a sneeze or a cough sneeze or a sneezing cough   or or or just a just a a fit.   Yeah. I was laughing.   Man.  

[00:07:05] Unknown:

Yeah. I was laughing and started coughing, but go ahead.   Explain No. Explain cupping and not spooning.  

[00:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Not spooning, but cupping. But cupping is they took these basically, they look like little bitty fish balls.   Alright. So I don't know why they don't call them bowling. Well, I guess that's probably the reason why. So   you try to yeah. I can't move on that good. But, yeah, what they do is they heat the, they heat the inside of the, of the cup up,   and then what they do is they put it on to the pressure points along your back, shoulders, and stuff like that. And, essentially, what it does is it it   as it cools, it draws,   it draws up   blood. Basically, it gives you a bunch of hickeys on your back,   except that it also helps to relieve   pain.  

Now the exact re   ways of how it do ex pain, I'm not sure, but, yeah, you do do walk around looking like you've got you've you've had some, had some kinky encounters   with somebody.   But   Yeah. No. Yeah. Except they're not they're not oblong. They're they're perfectly round.  

[00:08:17] Rich Chelson:

Well, dude, I I I I am   I'm just   barely thinking about the idea of doing acupuncture.   I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not thinking about no freaky shit now. I ain't Well dope smoking hippie here. Alright. Well, I'm not saying you're dope smoking hippie, but at the same time, I think it works.  

[00:08:38] Bryan Goodwin:

I've heard people say the same thing. You know? I was like, oh, yeah. I know   you get   get a massage taken care of, and then you get cupped and   Yeah. Come out feeling like a new man.  

[00:08:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go around and say, yeah. I got cupped.   Like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People are gonna look at me kinda funny, man. Well, you know, you say just to just  

[00:09:02] Bryan Goodwin:

at least hope that it's a good looking girl. I got killed by a good looking woman, and, you know, just let them let their imaginations run. So  

[00:09:11] Rich Chelson:

Now that maybe, but knowing me,   I would probably get some three hundred and fifty pound   boy named Bubba. I'd be like, oh, hell no. I'm out.  

[00:09:22] Bryan Goodwin:

No. You need no. You need need an older. You know? I have a  

[00:09:27] Rich Chelson:

I have a Hell, right now, I'd probably be happy with an Olga.  

[00:09:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Olga would just be you know? I would it'd be fun. Just watch her, watch her tie you into a pretzel.  

[00:09:38] Rich Chelson:

You would shit if if if if I had a nurse named Olga, and and she was, like, smoking freaking hot. Hell, yeah, honey. Do what you want. Oh, hell. Yeah. I I was thinking of the, you know, the,  

[00:09:50] Bryan Goodwin:

a member of the of the of the the eighties Russian wrestling team.  

[00:09:56] Rich Chelson:

No, dude.  

[00:09:57] Bryan Goodwin:

You don't like me, do you, up in the element? No. They are the best ones to have have give you massages, though.   Because they do. They tie you into a knot. They're like, you you know, they get down into that deep tape tissue.   And, yeah, you you cry.   You you weep. And and and when you get done, you're you're you're you're you're jello. But you're you've well, amazing.  

[00:10:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Okay.  

[00:10:25] Unknown:

That ain't that ain't the tissue that he wants massaged.  

[00:10:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, this is true.   Exactly.  

[00:10:33] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.   You know? I I mean   yeah. That's  

[00:10:38] Unknown:

You know, my   boss had acupuncture   for his   pain in his I think it was his shoulder   or someplace.   You know where they actually acupuncture him at?   Probably this foot. No. His ears.  

[00:10:55] Bryan Goodwin:

His ears? Yeah. Yep.  

[00:10:58] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[00:10:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes.   Yep. There you go. Maybe I'll buy, I'll go get you one of those acupressure mats.  

[00:11:07] Unknown:

You you surprised that where they will acupuncture   you at   Yeah. Has   no   not even in the general area of where your pain is at.  

[00:11:18] Rich Chelson:

They won't make it at that. I don't I I there's there's nothing saying that that that I'm doing it. I'm just I'm just exploring  

[00:11:28] Unknown:

your options. I would you know, I've never had acupuncture,   but from the individuals I know, I would I would recommend it.  

[00:11:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. You I I'd like to be at acupressure   points too. I mean, I've got a acupressure mat   that'll I'll roll out on the floor from time. It still kills me to step on it   because there's   each each little   place you stand   is activating different different parts of the body.   They it's the whole theory of, you know, each part your foot actually has representations   to and are somehow tied to, different parts of the body.   Yep. And Yep. I heard that. You you step on that thing, you think you're stepping on, you know,   still spikes that are going through your pit. And it's like, no. No. They're just plastic   dull, plastic little knobs.  



[00:12:25] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Mhmm. Yeah.  

[00:12:28] Bryan Goodwin:

And I still gimp around on top of it. I'm  

[00:12:34] Rich Chelson:

like,   I know. I I I think I did it.  

[00:12:38] Unknown:

That's why you gotta go into that   slowly and easy.  

[00:12:43] Bryan Goodwin:

You can't. You put your whole damn weight on the thing, and you're like,  

[00:12:47] Unknown:

yeah. You're right. But you don't have to, like  

[00:12:50] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I'm not stopping on it. I'm just I'm going as slow as I can, but still, eventually, you get your one foot off the ground and the other one's on top of the mat. You're like,   I'm going. Oh, god. This is good. Oh, hell. I actually bought it. Both feet.   Yep. I always put a feet.  

[00:13:10] Unknown:

Man. That's when you have that's when you have a walker around you and, you know   no. I'm serious.   To to to where you're not put you can adjust that pressure.  

[00:13:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:13:22] Unknown:

You know? Am I gonna stand on one of those mats? No. My I'm fucking   goddamn tender foot.   I I step on a fucking   smaller than a grain of rice,   And   that's all that shit.   You're gimping around for the next thirty minutes. No. Fuck. No. That shit's coming off my foot.   I don't give a fuck what I have to do.  

[00:13:47] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I know. But after after you get it off your foot, you're still gabbing around for the next thirty minutes. Like, oh. But otherwise, kick my ass.  

[00:13:55] Unknown:

Yeah. And I ain't Brian. Your asphalt road either.  

[00:14:02] Rich Chelson:

Did you happen to listen to our current episode or look at it? No. I have not because I have well, I've been  

[00:14:11] Bryan Goodwin:

been at doing the doing the shuffle thing, and there and then Lindsay, there is no   freaking   signal whatsoever.   I mean, it shows you you got a signal, but you ain't getting anything   until I get into town. Then all of a sudden, I get into town, and it's like, you know, it's like I've had my phone turned off for   fifteen hours because everything all of a sudden, it won't shut up   for about twenty minutes.  

[00:14:38] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, no. Reason I was saying,   probably ought to look because   for some reason,   I   I think I   I couldn't sleep, so   I tried to lay down to sleep. Yeah. That lasted about forty five minutes, and I got up and said, screw it. So I did the podcast,   and   I did chapter art   for 49 fucking chapters.  

[00:15:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. I think we need to start I think I need well, I need to start jump see if I can jump in again   sometime and see if I could help you sometimes with those chapters because I was like, we really need, you know, like, 49 chapters and stuff. Well, I mean,  

[00:15:20] Rich Chelson:

look. It it it was it was what Pod Home figured out, and I was just like, fuck it. Run with it. And   and, actually, when I put the text into   AI or   Gemini,   it, you know, split a different me out. Split the ball off. I know. They're in, you know, different. It it   it gave me highlights. And believe it or not, it damn near matched on   the highlights.   And so   so on those,   I had to make chapter art,   and,   you you know, I made sure the chapter art   you ought to look at the fucking chapter art. It's actually pretty freaking good. Yeah. I will see what I can get. I couldn't get I couldn't get Gemini to   spell out two grumpy vets and a dude   correctly.  

Correct. Two grumpy vets were fine, but dude,  

[00:16:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm. With more yous is just u u I  

[00:16:17] Rich Chelson:

d e. There's a d u u I o d   e. And   at two, 03:00 in the morning, I just said, fuck it. I'm leaving it. I don't care.   And so   so I had 12 of those. I put those in, and, actually, some of the cover arts are really freaking cool.   And then I used the cover art   for for this week's episode   or last week's episode,   which is titled   let me get back to it. I forgot.   So It is tie it,   it It is titled it went meow and split the Mohawk. And split the Mohawk. Yep.   And that was something one more time? It went meow   and split the Mohawk,   which is a play on words from things we said   in the podcast.  

Sure. Okay. So yeah. Because, dude,   you you were talking about something and you said something about splitting the mohawk. The mohawk.   And,   it went meow as I'm not sure where it got it from, but I I think it got it from somewhere in the transcript.   So I just went with it.   And so,   but, yeah, I did that. I mean I mean,   I don't know. I was up. I I couldn't sleep, so fuck it. I did it up and   and everything. And then   finally, it was,   I don't know, about 02:30, 03:00.   Then I couldn't keep my freaking eyes open,   and so I laid down for a couple hours.  

I mean, I didn't mind doing it. It was it because I I mean, it it it was funny. I put the I processed the audio and all like that, let our phonics do its thing.   And then,   I put the transcript in in,   Gemini, and   and,   you know, I got the title.   And, Gemini comes up, says,   would you like me to highlight some key moments?   Sure. Let me see what you got. I don't give a shit at this time. You know? Right.   Pops up 12 different,   you know, highlights.   And so so when I got this up in the POD Home, POD Home did its thing.   And, when I got to looking at the chapters, I'm like, oh my god.  

It it I don't know how, but it damn it it it damn near matched a lot of  

[00:18:41] Bryan Goodwin:

what picked. Yeah. Recognize some of the transitions.  

[00:18:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So so I just I just   went and well, I made the cover art had had cover or the chapter art made.   And I downloaded all that and then just started   putting it in and putting it together. And I'm like, okay.   Now I mean it. Okay.  

[00:19:04] Unknown:

Go ahead, dude. What is the difference of   chapter art   and the main one that comes up   on   the screen?   Okay. Well When when you when you're looking through them and you have   this is the   the   the name of the show.  

[00:19:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, you see from there   okay. If you don't have anything, it just shows that picture all the way through. But Right. With as many freaking you've got, like With as many freaking rabbit holes as we go down.   Okay? Now when Pod Home gets   the the audio,   they will split it into chapters.   So they will go through and find each rabbit hole that we we go down,   and it'll list them.   So, basically, last week, it was 49 rabbit holes   we went. We talked about 49 different things.  

[00:20:00] Unknown:

No shit.  

[00:20:01] Rich Chelson:

No shit.  

[00:20:02] Unknown:

And I don't fucking remember one damn one of them.  

[00:20:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   Except the mohawk.  

[00:20:08] Unknown:

Right. The mohawk   yeah. I remember that. All the rest of it? No.   Proud.  

[00:20:14] Bryan Goodwin:

So, yeah, for the for the different types of art, you have your you have your show art, which is the one where it's it's picture the   it's got the face   of of Rich and me and and the and the,   out in the out in the field, and we're look like we're we got our arms crossed and stuff like that.   That's just that's the chapter art. That's when someone is looking up and comes across too grumpy that's a dude, that's the first thing that they're gonna see.   Now there's also   episodic art. So each episode   has a different art different art style   so that whenever somebody looks at it, they can go, okay. This is   is supposed to have a basically, a picture that is kinda representative   of the overarching   episode,   the kind of overall theme of the episode.  



[00:21:04] Rich Chelson:

Like the booger belt, but great. Has its own art. Yeah. Yeah. It's got its own art.  

[00:21:09] Bryan Goodwin:

So and then you have chapters,   and it and the only way you can actually see the chapter art   is if you have a podcasting two point o compliant   app. So, like, Podcast Guru,   True Fans, Pod Home,   things like that.   When you're watch, you can actually pull up the   the chapters   and each   for each item on, the chapters   has a space for   a piece of art, and all the art is all 1,500 by 1,500   or larger   squared. And so it so it again, it helps to draw your attention. So if we're talking about something that just doesn't, doesn't appease somebody,   they can pull up the chapter art and go through and go, oh, hey. Look. This is a weird looking image, and   and they can click it and get a little more you know, they can jump forward or go back and   and listen again.  



[00:22:09] Rich Chelson:

When when   when that section is playing, it shows that art. And then and then when we go to the next subject,   the art changes.   Yep. We keep talking. It it it don't affect the audio. It just it just changes the art.  

[00:22:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. And you can actually even make it more investing by going you could actually put gifts as as chapter art   also. So  

[00:22:34] Rich Chelson:

dude, I just I just got able to put chapter art up. Don't go don't go fucking my mind here. Okay?  

[00:22:41] Unknown:

No. Yeah. Because then he's then he's gonna fucking press the wrong fucking button, and everything is just gonna go to shit. It's gonna fall apart. Right? Yeah. Right? Like, it's fucking house of dominoes or house of cards, I should say. Well, either way, I mean but yeah. You're right. So yeah. No. Dude,  

[00:22:59] Rich Chelson:

Brian, just chill, man. Chill.   I mean, I I I now I finally now   do not have a Windows computer in my house.  

[00:23:10] Unknown:

Really?  

[00:23:11] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Everything is on Linux.  

[00:23:13] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Everything. But you can still   operate   system Everything that needs to be operate Yeah. From Windows. Right?   No.   No. Everything is Linux.   Okay. No.   Yeah. That's your   operating system, but you can still get Google and all that other  

[00:23:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Shit. Yeah. Dude.  

[00:23:37] Unknown:

Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay. Explain this to me like I am   three   Because   that is is and I got it now. I'm good.   But yeah. Okay. So you're not running any Windows. You're running Linux on everything.   Is it faster?  

[00:23:55] Rich Chelson:

Yes. By far.  

[00:23:56] Unknown:

Okay. Is it   more secure?  

[00:24:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. More secure. Updates work the same. And in fact, instead of   instead of resetting   for every freaking update   in fact, I just did an update right before I jumped on.   It had, like, 13 updates. It updated everything.   I said, okay. You're good. Close me out. It didn't even need to reboot.  

[00:24:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Oh, okay.  

[00:24:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean and and it's and it's and it doesn't work.   I a, computer system is hard.   So so it doesn't run a CPU as fast and hard.   The fan, it doesn't run as fast and hard. It it   it's it's very light on resources,   but you you can still surf the Internet.   You can still get all the sites that you you can get all the porn sites you want. Okay?   And and if you switch over to the Tor browser, you can get even more.  

[00:24:55] Unknown:

Right. Tor browser ver versus what browser would go with   Windows?  

[00:25:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, you can do Tor browser with with Windows too, but Tor is means the onion router. And what basically, what that is is it's   kinda like an onion   has layers. You know? So   what you're doing is there is a network that is set up   so that   you're able to bounce from a   toll router to a toll router,   from an onion router to an onion router to an onion router to an onion router, you're able to bounce around.   And all of those keep you   anonymous.   So whenever you do get to a site,   all they know is that somebody   hit their site. They don't know that it's   rich from Mississippi.  



[00:25:47] Unknown:

Right.   Okay.  

[00:25:49] Rich Chelson:

And and   on on Linux,   you can still get Google Chrome. You can still get Microsoft Edge. You can still get Opera. You can still get   Firefox, Thunderbird. Brave.   Brave. Yeah. I mean,   it's it I mean, it works just like a normal computer,   except   it doesn't have all the bullshit  

[00:26:12] Unknown:

Yeah. It doesn't have all the Windows has software. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that   Linux   will take over from  

[00:26:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Windows one day? Nope. Nope. Nope. No. Never will.   Okay. Too many one   Windows Microsoft has done a really good job of getting people to think that if you're running Linux, you're a hacker. You're a you're a bad dude.   But, also,   they have done too much   to make it   easy to get a Microsoft right off the bat.  

[00:26:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   And and you see also a lot of businesses.   You see, this is what Microsoft was built for,   was businesses.   It was built Yeah. It was built for   all these all these companies   and and everything. And, of course, people just latched on to it because it's stupid simple.   People don't wanna have to think. People don't wanna have to work real hard. And I admit,   it is   you know,   I've been able to do it fairly   easily making the switch, but there's been a few things that have really, really frustrated me.   But  

[00:27:26] Bryan Goodwin:

I kept going, and I got them figured out and everything like that. But Yeah. But And you do you have to you have to think of of everything a little bit differently because, like, the Explorer,   which is where you go when you look at the files, you know, where's your downloads and all that,   is not in the same fashion   as, like,   Windows Explorers.   Well, no. It is, but it's called Probably gotta set a yeah. It's just it's called files, but, again, it's a it it's   a bit different than   than,  

[00:27:59] Rich Chelson:

than how Windows does it. Well yeah. Oh, yeah. No. It is. And and that's like that's like it's got like, some of the file names I've got, doc selenic men   dot local dot mozilla. Yeah. You know? And and these are files that you would never see on a Windows system.  

[00:28:17] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Yeah. Then do the the, yeah, the dot dot folders. Yeah.  

[00:28:22] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.   But the thing is, at the same time, though,   believe it or not,   I have used either CHED GPT or Gemini   to figure things out on Lanix.   Oh, yeah. You know, multiple times. And and and   when they start getting stupid,   I tell them no. Give me a clear,   concise   way to do this. No runaround. No bullshit.   And, you know, it you know, I get them back on track,   and I get what I want and what I need. And and if if I need an explanation,   I'm like, I don't understand this. Tell me. And they will break it down into my language.  

[00:29:03] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Yep. A lot of times also if you're if you're in line if you're in,   in   chat GPT and stuff, the big search going off and telling you really stupid stuff,   it's good just to close the close that particular   chat up and open a brand new window and start from scratch   because it'll actually   it   it starts dulling too much, and it's that's where you start getting the the hallucinations   and the excess bullshit.  

[00:29:34] Unknown:

So that's Well, I'll be getting hallucinations.   Just turn the fucker on. So  

[00:29:39] Bryan Goodwin:

well  

[00:29:41] Rich Chelson:

But see, that's where that's where when I was using Gemini.   And, god dang, I was I was running down this same rabbit hole over and over and over again,   And finally, I just got mad. I said, no.   This is what you're gonna tell me, and this is how you're gonna tell me. And   at once I did that, I started getting the answers I wanted   or needed, actually. Now Right.   Not just wanted, but needed.   You know? And then and then I was able to figure stuff out.   So,   I mean, it it, you know, took a minute, but, you know, I did it.   But, yeah, I pulled, yeah, I pulled the trigger and I put I've got three computers. I put all of them on Linux.  

And now I've got one, my my other laptop.   I've got Linux cinnamon mint Linux Mint cinnamon edition   on my other two. Right?   K. Cool.   And I put Linux Mint cinnamon   on this other laptop   to start out with. And I thought, okay. Cool. I shut it off,   turn it back on. It has Linux Mint   XCFE,   which is Linux Mint,   but it's just a different version   of of Linux Mint.   It's not the cinnamon edition. It's just a little different.   And it threw me for a loop for a minute because things work just a little bit differently on that. Mhmm. So   so   so I had to figure out,   you know,   some few different things on it,   but I could transfer all that to my, cinnamon versions  

[00:31:25] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:31:26] Rich Chelson:

And everything. So,   yeah, it's it's   it's been fun, but it's been a challenge at the same time.  

[00:31:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.   I I I believe that. I mean, it's   I   party around with a couple different, Linux   distributions in in the past, and,   I mean, they're always fun   to to to mess around with and and stuff. So but I haven't messed with one in a while.  

[00:31:53] Rich Chelson:

I will say Cinnamon   will,   it feels   a lot like Windows.  

[00:32:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:32:01] Rich Chelson:

But,   and and and, I mean, it I mean, it was on it's it's almost stupid easy.   But Right. There's still some quirks that tells you that   that freaking remind you, hey. I'm Linux. I'm not Windows. Yeah. We're not Windows. You know? So so that's when I go to Chad GPT,   Gemini, whoever.   And, like, okay. This is what I'm doing. This is where I need this is what I need. Fix it.   And   after a few back and forths,   I can fix it.  

[00:32:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   So   So speaking of   kind of now that you're gone gone a 100% and and now you're using that with, with all your all your other systems,   Let's go ahead and get jump on into   the   to the the the rich ham sandwich.   So what's, what's going on in the ham world? I know that, I know we had a, what, a g four storm   striker this week.  

[00:33:02] Rich Chelson:

Actually, we've had two.   I'll go to it. Yeah. I believe it.   There was two x class flares   hit this week.   The first one was a 1.2,   which which,   you know, kinda put things in the tank.   And then a couple days later, there there's an x 5.1,   which is the sixth largest   solar flare of this solar cycle, which is solar cycle 25.   So   and it is   pretty much   knocked out.   It's it's not so bad right now. It's starting to come back a little bit, but the past couple of days, it it has knocked the hell   out of ham radio communications.   I mean, you can still get signals, but, oh my god, they're they're freaking distorted because of the auroras.  



[00:33:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[00:33:54] Rich Chelson:

And and all like that, but and a a lot of the signals   are just passing   right through the d layer   and getting absorbed by the atmosphere.  

[00:34:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay.  

[00:34:06] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, so, yeah, ham radio communication   has not been the best this week.   And it's it's it's supposed to be better tomorrow,   which is good because   we have a contest this weekend.   So  

[00:34:21] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm Well, that was gonna be my next question was how how did the, last contest go?  

[00:34:26] Rich Chelson:

Not bad. Not bad. I made hang on. You made made third place. Right?  

[00:34:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Third place. Yeah. I see. I told you.  

[00:34:35] Rich Chelson:

Now I made I made a 155   contacts   and 63,294   points.  

[00:34:42] Unknown:

How many points again?  

[00:34:44] Rich Chelson:

63,000.   3,000.   294.  

[00:34:48] Unknown:

Okay. So And that and so you still don't know the   your placement yet because they're still trying to   get everybody else's logs, I'm sure. Right? Yeah. And get them all calculated out and that kind of shit.  

[00:35:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. That'll take that'll take another   three, four weeks   before I I know the actual numbers.   Oh, okay. I believe I believe I'm I'm close. I believe   I'll only have   possibly   I wanna say just one mistake,   and that was my last contact.   It was cool   because I was on the radio, and I heard   I heard Japan come in.   Normally, I don't hear Japan.   Okay?   And Uh-huh. On this contest, I heard Japan come in. And   I I out of the whole time I've been   back on the radio since '23,   I only have maybe a handful   of contacts from Japan.   And so I I know I was able to get one,   maybe two. I'd have to look in my log. But the last one I tried to get, I could hear him, but he was having a hard time. It was awesome.  



[00:36:05] Bryan Goodwin:

We got a spot on my Internet tire. I don't need a trailer.  

[00:36:09] Rich Chelson:

That's funny.   He was having a hard time hearing me,   so I'm not I'm not sure I'm not sure if he got it   got it recorded on his end or not.   But   it yeah. It was just it was cool because   the last contest was nothing but DX.   I mean, I all those contacts with the exception of three,   and those three were here in The US,   All all all the rest of them were   in Europe, Africa, South America.   I think I got Australia.   And and in this last contest, Alaska was its own entity and so was Hawaii, so I got two of those.   They didn't   they didn't get counted for   because in the last contest,   we were Okay. To work zones,   c q zones.  

And so and so Alaska is in zone one.   And Hawaii, I can't remember.   I wanna say they were in Zone 36.   I might be wrong. They were in Zone 36.   I might be wrong with that.   Oh oh.   Can y'all y'all hear me?  

[00:37:19] Unknown:

Yeah. You're coming in broken. It's you're coming in stupid.  

[00:37:23] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Okay.  

[00:37:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Now you're coming in with now you're coming in with sir. Hang on.  

[00:37:28] Unknown:

Now I'm coming in. Now I'm coming in in echoes.  

[00:37:31] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Same here. Same here. So am I.   I think it's Zoom.  

[00:37:36] Bryan Goodwin:

No.   Because it you think it's Zoom?  

[00:37:39] Rich Chelson:

Well, it it might get That dude was coming in in echoes. I was coming in in echoes. Yeah. I'm not coming in in echoes now. No. Me neither.   So   we'd probably have to chalk that up to the Aurora  

[00:37:53] Bryan Goodwin:

or Yeah. I think the well, I think my problem, personally, was just the fact that I am just outside of the   range of my   my my   radio. Of course, I'm gonna go ahead and just turn the truck off while I'm unloading it.  

[00:38:07] Rich Chelson:

No. Okay.  

[00:38:09] Unknown:

But yeah. I think they must have just went. We talked on it for a second.  

[00:38:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I mean I mean, yeah, I went and then dude was saying it's a saying the same thing. And I think the same thing, it's not just me.   You know?   But   so, yeah, that's we I was working CQ zones in the last contest   and for each band I worked.   So and then the one that's coming up this week,   which is Saturday afternoon,   that's the November sweepstakes. That's a single sideband.   There's 85   sections   between   Canada. Well, this is all North America, Canada,   United States, and Mexico.   Okay?   And so,   our goal is to work all of the   85   zones.  

And if you do that, that's called a clean sweep.   So   I don't think I will make that happen, but I'm gonna give it my damnest shot.   And so and and you see what's funny. Okay.   One of the problems I've been trying to figure out   is   now that I've made the switch to Linux,   the logbook program that I used to use   doesn't natively work on Linux   because it's a Windows only program.   So so I tried to   use a wine layer,   and I could get most of it to work, but I couldn't get my log to load back up, you know, my backup I made   and everything,   and it was it was acting up. And so finally,   I got a native Linux program   that's a log, and it's a different layout. So I'm going into this contest with a brand new log, and I don't have much knowledge with it. So I'm gonna be learning on the fly.  

So   that's gonna be fun.  

[00:40:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.   Sound  

[00:40:08] Rich Chelson:

I kept it. Yeah. So so yeah. By tomorrow   in fact,   yeah, probably by   probably by the time I get up tomorrow,   sunspot numbers and everything ought to be   back down to where they're good.   And I'll jump on in, you know, make contacts and and all like that tomorrow, make sure because, I mean, every because, well, tonight, I just talked with a guy   from Saint Kitts   in Nevis Island.   I'm not sure where they're at. I need to look them up.   But I worked them in the contest,   like, couple weeks back.   So   Okay.   So yeah. And and it was just it was just cool to hear.   It it was a   to hear my contest.  

Oh, yeah. Thank you.   It was too cool. It was it was just nice to hear my   hear my contest stations again  

[00:41:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:41:09] Rich Chelson:

On that first contest. Okay. Saint Kitts And Nevis   is in the Caribbean Sea.   It's I also got there it is. Because I got a new one.   It was Saint   Barthilemy.   Baumyue?   No.   B A R T H E   L E M Y.  

[00:41:30] Bryan Goodwin:

But and I got  

[00:41:32] Rich Chelson:

Montserrat.   And that   these are all islands   in the in the Caribbean   Ocean,   and they're Southeast   of the British Virgin Islands.   Oh, okay.   So   so, yeah, it's it's all,   and they're just on the outside of the of the Lesser Antilles.   So,   yeah, it's it's   East and   South East Southeast of Puerto Rico.   So, yeah,   I got I got, quite a few of those,   and I also got Africa. I I mean, I got,   man, I got places that   I had never heard of.   I got to Gambia   in the contest. That was so freaking awesome.   Yeah. I mean, dude, I got I got Africa.   Well, one one small little spot in Africa.  

But  

[00:42:30] Unknown:

Well, that's like Taiwan is, like, what, a 187?   No. More than that.   I I can't remember how many islands are in   Taiwan.  

[00:42:42] Rich Chelson:

Taiwan is just one island.   Well, it see.   Yeah.   Thailand   no. Taiwan. Yes.   But there's, like well, like in The Philippines,   you've got  

[00:42:55] Unknown:

That's where it was.  

[00:42:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. The Philippines, they got a bunch of islands, but they're all called The Philippines.   Now in Right. Yeah. Some of these other places,   like,   Saint Kitts and all like this,   they're all in the chain with Antigua   And Barbuda,   Montserrat.   These are all separate   countries.   So   they all they all have their own own governments.  

[00:43:24] Unknown:

So Okay. Yeah. Like Turks And Caicos has their own  

[00:43:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And see yeah. Because they're, yeah, they're   they're   Southeast   Of The Bahamas, but they're right on the   end of The Bahamas.   But, yes, they're   they're separate, and and they have their own call signs and,   you know, shit like this.   Whereas Nassau, which I think I got in Nassau station,   that was in that was in The Bahamas.   I mean, it was just oh, it was crazy.   It was freaking crazy,   you know, that   that first contest. I got I got French Guiana,   which that's the country in South America that   I had been trying to get for, oh god, for,   say, a couple years now.  

Because I've only got one or two countries in, South America,   and I will have all of South America covered   with contact. Oh, that'll be cool. Yeah.   Yeah. So yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. French Guiana is was one of them, and I think there's another one. I need to look   and see, but yeah.   So, yeah, it was fun. And then   this weekend,   I gotta contact   all the provinces in Canada,   and they've got quite a few   others.   And then all the states in The United States, and then all the ones running in Mexico   and on down.   Okay. So,   yeah, that's that's the next one.   And then I've got three weeks   or a month.  

I got a month, and then it's a 10 meter contest.   So  

[00:45:07] Unknown:

so hopefully, it's a 10 meter contest. Come to a 10 meter contest, I'm gonna come down and take your antenna down, see how well you do.  

[00:45:16] Rich Chelson:

I will throw another one up, but I will not do as good as as I did with with what I have up right now. I tell you that. That god. I love that freaking antenna.   I mean,   normally, first call, I was they was hearing me right off the bat. There was times when I had to call quite a few times,   you know, because there was just too many big stations   running 1,500   watts. You know?   Right.   But,   you know, most of the time, I could I hear them.   I throw my call out. They catch it right away.   I'm like, fuck. Yeah.   It was great. So   but, yeah, I've been   that's why that's why I've been   when I decided to make the switch over to Linux,   and   I tried working on   bringing my Windows program over because I know that one.  

And when that wasn't working, I got frustrated. I said, fuck it.   And then   the program I'm using on Linux okay.   But check this out.   It is it is compatible with older versions   of of this same operating system,   but it's not compatible with the newer version,   the one I have.   So so I had to go find,   say, an alpha version   that will work with this.   And   I got it up and running. And instead of using a program to run the radio, I'm using the   terminal   on a shell script,   starting that up,   and it and it allows my, login program   to talk with my radio   and my radio to talk with the login program.  

Oh, yeah. It's trust me. It's it has been in,   I I wanna say, enlightening   week,   but yeah. No.   Yeah.   I can't really say that, but it works. Everything works.   So   so yeah. Yeah. Linux, I mean I mean,   the new version,   nine times out of 10,   click it,   install it,   boom. It it it does it for you.   But there's a few programs if you want them.   You gotta   you will have to work at them.  

[00:47:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Gotta work.   Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:47:39] Rich Chelson:

You know? And, I mean, there are workarounds.   I was able to get it done, so that's cool. But but, yeah, for the most part on, Cinnamon,   you click,   push install,   and it goes out and finds all the packages. It finds everything   and downloads it in one shot.   And then it says, okay. You can run the program.   I mean, whereas before, we would have to Okay.   Yeah. We would have to go get the source code,   compile it,   make   it, install it, and all like this. No. They've   they've made it a lot simpler where I need all these packages. And and it tells you I'm gonna need all these. Just click this button, and I'll go get them.   Fuck. Alright. I'm clicking a button.  

And he goes, gets them, and installs it, and it's done.   So  

[00:48:30] Unknown:

I don't know how it's going for you. Get them.   Oh, you said what? How you're supposed to be getting.  

[00:48:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[00:48:37] Unknown:

I was talking to Brian. I said, we don't know what the hell you're supposed to be getting. What's that? I don't know what the hell the hell you just said.   You're getting something.   And I don't know what you're getting, but you didn't say what you're getting. So, you know, we don't know what the hell you're getting.   So if you got it, you know, I am I'm getting  

[00:48:55] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm getting all my my my shit together is what I'm doing.   Okay. Well I'll be at the, at the trailer   and,   getting all my stuff gathered together.   And,   I've been   doing a little bit of just spot cleaning because, well, I need   to make sure I don't leave too much of a mess for the,   for my other two,   roommates.   So  

[00:49:20] Rich Chelson:

So are you off now? Or  

[00:49:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Yep. Yep.   Heading to the Casa for six days.  

[00:49:27] Unknown:

Oh, okay. You're heading to the what? To the house?  

[00:49:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Heading to the house.   So did   you and I never There we go. What you got?  

[00:49:38] Unknown:

I don't fucking know. Okay. That's good. What I got.  

[00:49:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Long as you ain't sure what you got.  

[00:49:45] Unknown:

Yeah. You're right.   So yeah. Talk like how Brian's just talking to himself on the Zoom call. Yeah. No. I I do. I do. Yeah. We know you do. Spoon.  

[00:49:57] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm used to it.   I'm always talking.  

[00:50:01] Duuude-Ron :

My best will.  

[00:50:02] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm I'm know that. I'm searching for intelligent life out there, and the only ones I have to keep fighting are you two.  

[00:50:09] Rich Chelson:

Oh god. You're in fucking trouble.  

[00:50:11] Unknown:

Yeah. I was gonna say, man, you're fucking, like,   definitely scratching at the fucking bottom of the barrel  

[00:50:19] Bryan Goodwin:

on the third barrel down, mind you. Yeah. Well I mean, it's a it's better than   just me touching myself.  

[00:50:28] Unknown:

Well, you you know that you can you know that you   can talk to yourself. You can even argue yours argue to yourself. Yeah. No. I don't when you start kicking your own ass   yeah. But if when you start kicking your own ass,  

[00:50:42] Bryan Goodwin:

man, it's time to get the fucking pictures and video camera out. Oh, well, you ought to ought to see some of the times I kick my own ass.   I I do a good job of it.   Yeah. I don't know if I see you. Get. You know?   You do you, boo.   Absolutely.  

[00:51:02] Unknown:

Alright. Let's see here. Let's close. Not not just you do boo, but it's boo boo.   You do you, boo boo.  

[00:51:11] Bryan Goodwin:

There. There.   Yeah. And I've gotta I gotta do   a lot of work this week while I'm off because   Yeah. I got Matt.   Well, I got I got an Instagram from the from the homeowner a homeowner's insurance, and,   they're,   they were saying, yeah. There's a bunch   of fees and other stuff that you   know that needs   to be heard about. And   Is that you down? Then you're gonna have to find another   insurance?  

[00:51:42] Rich Chelson:

Hold on.   Your insurance company is doing what now?   Yeah.  

[00:51:48] Bryan Goodwin:

All insurance companies will do that.   No. No. No. It Explain what you were just talking about. You know? If your if your insurance company,   and you let your let's let you know, like, trees that are too close to the, to the house grow up. Yeah. They could they can and will   drop you if you do not rectify that problem.   So I would.   No. What? They just have somebody come out and look at your house and see how Yeah. They drove they basically did a did a drop inspection while around the while around the property. They didn't come on the property. They just drove around it, took a bunch of pictures, said, hey.   You need to get this shit wrecked by. So  

[00:52:32] Rich Chelson:

I would write him back and say, are you paying my fucking house payment?   No.  

[00:52:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Well Yeah. But they are. Actually, they are.   Because what happens is if my house down because I've got too much shit around there,   then it's on them.   It's the  

[00:52:50] Rich Chelson:

Then why do you own a freaking house?  

[00:52:53] Unknown:

Yes. Okay. Do you do you know what, Rich? Answer the same question. Why do you own a house?  

[00:52:58] Rich Chelson:

Because my insurance company hasn't said no shit like that.  

[00:53:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You've just barely had it. Mine's twenty years old.   I'd tell them to screw the hell off. Well, I can, but then I have to go out and try to find a new insurance company.  

[00:53:13] Rich Chelson:

It shouldn't be that hard.  

[00:53:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's one reason why there are so many people in, like, California.   A lot of people in California are losing their, insurance   because   the laws   dictate something completely different than what   the,   than what   the, the   the   insurance company is   willing   to to accept. And so people kinda stuck in putting a lock in a hard place on that.  

[00:53:47] Unknown:

Well, California needs us to just fucking drop off into the ocean. I agree. I agree there. Oh, hold on. Hold   on. Become a Tom White one.  

[00:53:56] Rich Chelson:

You need to stop comparing   Oklahoma to California because California,   as we all know,   does not operate on the same   even   near wavelength  

[00:54:08] Bryan Goodwin:

that everybody else does. No. But insurance companies like Farm Bureau,   Farmers,   things like that,   they all   have   a certain   overarching   company   that,   that makes makes up certain rules. And so, yeah, they get they will come up by. And if your   if your   if your home   is   not up to the snuff that they think is going to be that's increasing their liability   risk,   they're gonna tell you to rectify the problem.  

[00:54:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, you know what? I would So what exactly insurance   companies?  

[00:54:48] Unknown:

So what exactly do you have to rectify?  

[00:54:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Companies is I mean, that's one reason why   a lot of insurance companies,   if you're smoking   and you're   and they tell you, hey. You gotta quit smoking   or you're not have you don't have any health insurance.   Guess what you probably gonna have to do or do without health insurance.  

[00:55:12] Rich Chelson:

No. I'm gonna find another insurance company, and I ain't gotta worry about that. So  

[00:55:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh,   so you say.  

[00:55:19] Rich Chelson:

Oh, so so I know.  

[00:55:22] Bryan Goodwin:

No. So you say.   You know.   But,   again, if you get if   again, look at it. Another practical ex example   is   you you   get into a wreck.   You're just straight up liability, but you get into a wreck.   Not even your fault.   Somebody comes along, hits you,   and they pay out. You get a new car. You're driving around. Six months later, you get into another wreck,   and they pay out again. Six months later,   you gotta do another wreck.   Eventually, that insurance company is gonna go,   we're not gonna cover you no more.  

[00:56:05] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's fine because that means you don't know how to fucking drive.  

[00:56:09] Bryan Goodwin:

No. You don't get you're it's not your fault. Somebody else keeps clobbering your ass.   And okay. So if somebody else I will tell you an example of that is in real life. Alexis, my daughter,   has gotten into   five wrecks,   and none of them been her fault. There have been people who have come up and ran through her asshole   on her car. They've come along. They've ripped the back end of her car on this last one   because they were trying to turn into a damn damn   store Okay. So   and rip her   Right. Rip her the back end of her car up   and had a,   had   come along and just   ripped the   basically ripped the whole,   drive the drive system, but we're,   we're off at Spindle.  

That was a freaking   duty pickup, and the lady again wasn't fucking paying attention.   But Lexus That there it is. She's   she's paying in and she's she well, right now, she's having a hard time finding insurance that will   that she can afford.   They're going, oh, no. Yeah. We'll cover you,   but your insurance is $600   a month.  

[00:57:25] Unknown:

Okay. So   but the insurance company has not paid for   any damages of the wrecks that she is paying. Put them on their car now.   Right. So that's the insurance   company   of the other driver.  

[00:57:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes. But, again,   she because you she is keeps getting hit.   The insurance our insurance company   was gonna you're you're a liability.   We need to increase your your,   your fee your premiums,   and they have.   Like I said, $600   a month right now.  

[00:58:05] Rich Chelson:

So because it's not her fault.  

[00:58:08] Bryan Goodwin:

But because   according to the actuary tables,   she is a   a liability   risk because she has been hit so many times.   Yeah. No. Insurance no. This is the reason insurance companies   have a lot of fucking this is the reason why,   right,   Ron,   your your truck and my truck both have this freaking Sam Sarah camera in it.   It's not because, oh, well, it it makes it safer. That's the excuse they use, but that's not the reason.   The reason is because they will have a lower amount of   of of payment for insurance.   Yeah. I I get that, and that is And that's why some kids don't do doing recess anymore.   Because insurance companies go, you don't need to be doing recess because kids get hurt during recess.  

So you can put you can put them in in a little in a some sort of a, a, a matted   area   so that they can kinda run around a little bit.  

[00:59:13] Unknown:

But when I go put dogs back back   that goes back to the fucking goddamn   woke nation.  

[00:59:20] Bryan Goodwin:

No. That is because of insurance. Yeah. Okay.  

[00:59:24] Unknown:

When you were a kid,   you went out on the playground,   you went on the slide,   there was a metal fucking slide,   burned yourself,   you came home   and told your mom you got burned, and she's like,  

[00:59:38] Bryan Goodwin:

okay. That's your damn fault. Don't  

[00:59:41] Unknown:

do it again and   shut the fuck up.   But the the the fucking parents,   today, it's a sue happy nation   of people   that god forbid if their fucking kids   get hurt on the fucking playground.  

[01:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Goddamn.   Yeah. Broke your bones. That is my broke bones as a kid. Yeah. Yeah. I broke my arm on the on the on the spider monkey bars.   It I mean, that's just was life   then.   I mean, hell, that would   we used to run around and get thrown 15 feet through the air.  

[01:00:22] Unknown:

Right. And a bunch of goddamn fucking   these parents of today,   my daughter being and I can't say my daughter specifically,   but goddamn, they're a bunch of goddamn fucking pussies.  

[01:00:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, a lot of them are. But but, again, it's the reason why things why the the playground equipment is taken away   and why we don't have the merry-go-round.   We don't have the the monkey swings. We don't have the witch's hat. We don't have even have the rocket ship slide   anymore.   Isn't because   of the sue happy parents?   It's because the insurance company is going, yeah. We're not covering that.   You get rid of that, and your insurance,   premiums will will drop.  

[01:01:07] Unknown:

Yeah. Because you know what? Insurance companies   as a whole are   just like They're they're   you're right. Because all they fucking care about is   is profits.   Now   a person that has power, what is the only thing they want?  

[01:01:26] Rich Chelson:

They want that power.  

[01:01:28] Unknown:

More   power.   Exactly.   Some of these people just need to get taken behind the woodshed  

[01:01:36] Bryan Goodwin:

and get the fucking shit beat out of them. Well, it would be nice if they would. Yeah. I agree.  

[01:01:42] Unknown:

And say and it   yeah. And it all comes down to politics.  

[01:01:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Every fucking time. To about yeah. It's   politics and,   but, yeah, insurance   companies are the reason why   we're so much   weaker   now because   we are all about we gotta save money. We gotta play it safe.  

[01:02:07] Unknown:

So, yeah, you you know, that's why Yeah. And and exactly. If you wanna fucking live in Louisiana,   you're gonna pay up the ass for flood insurance   because of the fact that   if you have a hurricane   a year,   which   can happen,   doesn't happen   often.   But if you have   a, say, a sizable hurricane a year in property damage,   you know, god forbid   that   they have to fucking pay out.   Right.   I've been saying this for years. You know, you better fucking pay your premium.   Yep. Yeah. It is.  

[01:02:48] Bryan Goodwin:

So, yeah, I can I can again, back to the house, I can say screw that?   But what it will end up happening   is that my   premiums   will go up because I have to find another   another insurance   company that will come.  

[01:03:05] Unknown:

Okay. So you still haven't answered my question.   What do you have to do   concerning your house   to fix whatever conundrum  

[01:03:16] Bryan Goodwin:

is going on? Right now, it is   the there's several trees that have grown too close to the house,   so I've gotta get those cut down.  

[01:03:26] Unknown:

The whole tree or just the branches?  

[01:03:29] Bryan Goodwin:

No. The tree. Because they're they're right next to the house.  

[01:03:33] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:03:35] Bryan Goodwin:

They there is the   there   are some some piles of junk   that has just been collected through twenty years of   of of living in the same place   that have built up. And I basically, I'm I'm gonna need to get a get a rollaway just to have that.   So, I mean, there's several things that need to be done. Just   or made the house look like it's being have it inhabited again.   Because, I mean,   it look at it. It essentially kinda looks like it's,   it's somewhat   somewhat abandoned. Is that my look. I don't think it is.   It looks like either someone   barely lives there or   or something to to that,   essentially, to that style and effect is that it's like, alright. We gotta increase the level   of of the,   of the property value there.  



[01:04:33] Unknown:

Okay.   So you're gonna have to cut down some trees. You're gonna have to get rid of the  

[01:04:38] Bryan Goodwin:

cut Correct. Some trees, get rid of some some junk,   get rid of,   some other   assorted, trash and, you know,   gotta   get some get some wood cut up   because   I don't have what's left of a, of a tree that fell over couple years ago that I've not been able to get   fully broke down because, well, I don't have any means of being able to break it down because I don't have a,   any means of being a   no. It's not even a pole saw. It's because the tree itself fell down.   So I don't have Okay.   I've and I've got a I've got a chainsaw, but it again, these are this is like the root the the what's left of the roots   that have, that have been pulled up.  

I mean, it's just   I I've been laxed in my in my,   in my in my homeowner duties.  

[01:05:37] Unknown:

Okay. So, basically, what you're trying to say is while you're off for the next   six days,  

[01:05:43] Bryan Goodwin:

you got a lot of fucking work to do with the house. I got a bit yeah. I got some got a good bit of oh, I've a lot to do.   So  

[01:05:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Kinda like what   I've been doing for the last   fucking   week. And, of course, Rich,   of course, Rich decided he said, you know what? Fuck Ron.   You know?   I told him to kinda you know, I asked him nicely.  

[01:06:08] Rich Chelson:

He didn't get a really over here and give me a hand. That was nicely.   Now get the fuck over here and give me a hand. Oh, yeah. I forgot. This is dude we're talking about. No. No. I was Dude, that that was him being  

[01:06:20] Unknown:

Oh, I said get off of your dead ass   and get over here and give me a hand.  

[01:06:26] Rich Chelson:

And  

[01:06:26] Unknown:

and this was the day I I had to go do my MRI, and he's like, pussy. You're yeah. You're right. Okay. So you had to go do your MRI. So when you got done with your MRI, you should've fucking packed a bag,   got you and Bella in a fucking Jeep now that it's legal and fucking drove your ass over here and gave me a hand.  

[01:06:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. How hard is that? Here. Here's a hand, dude.  

[01:06:50] Unknown:

Yeah. I bet you you're probably holding up,  

[01:06:53] Bryan Goodwin:

all over my finger.  

[01:06:55] Rich Chelson:

No. I was clapping.   Oh,  

[01:06:57] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm down to one hand clapping.  

[01:07:00] Unknown:

That's pretty talented.   And I still ain't fucking done.  

[01:07:05] Rich Chelson:

Damn, dude.   That was a lot of stuff.  

[01:07:08] Unknown:

Yeah. That was   Well,   my primary goal   on this vacation   was to get all the fucking clothes   out of   bags and get them into boxes.   So   it's a lot easier to fucking   organize.  

[01:07:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But But in terms they're so old, I would wash them and probably donate them even if they're not yours.  

[01:07:34] Unknown:

Well, you know So what's gonna miss them? Yeah. No. Well, there's a lot of the stuff that   the grandkids   some of the clothes they can grow into   that she had in   bags,   some boxes.   However,   I donated   one, two, six boxes   of clothes   today   to one guy because he has   grand grandson   that is now two and   a lot of, you know,   younger kids' clothes, boys' clothes, which he's a boy.   And that was five boxes worth.   And then his   cousin   just has a newborn   girl. And why the hell that this was in the bag of clothes   of Chelsea's?   I don't have a fucking clue,   but gave him another fucking box this afternoon   of newborn   girl   stuff. Well, it's all good clothes. I went through, and   there's four fucking   garbage bags of clothes and crap that went into the trash.  



[01:08:50] Rich Chelson:

So   Did you find your pink pom poms?  

[01:08:54] Unknown:

No.   And I didn't find his fucking,   jack   stands either.  

[01:09:00] Bryan Goodwin:

I have old pair of old fucking pairs of jack stands too. He was like, oh, I got a really good somewhere. He's like, screw the pom pom, but I got jack stands.  

[01:09:09] Unknown:

But I gotta go I still have to go through the tote,   but the garage is now   a lot more organized.   So And I will start going through the big totes.   I'll start going through the totes and start throwing   shit out   and getting rid of it.   So   but it's a little bit more organized now.   But hell, half the shit   one half of the garage is nothing but Chelsea stuff.   Damn.   It but, again,   there's   more than half of that stuff   is her childhood stuff,  

[01:09:51] Bryan Goodwin:

and I don't wanna throw that away. I want her It's real hard to throw it away. Yeah. Yeah. It's real hard to throw it away. Make that decision  

[01:09:59] Unknown:

to throw it away.   And she goes, I mean it's there.   Well, there's probably   six totes of stuffed animals.  

[01:10:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I would just yeah. Those would be gone.  

[01:10:13] Unknown:

Well but, again,   I'll let her get them gone.  

[01:10:17] Rich Chelson:

Well, see, that's like Brit with Breezy because Breezy loves stuffed animals.   And every   couple years   or so,   Brit sends Breezy outside   and goes sort of  

[01:10:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Trash bags.  

[01:10:33] Rich Chelson:

And and and and just about every stuffed animal   gets toasted   except for a few,   and Breezy doesn't even   remember  

[01:10:44] Unknown:

him.   Yeah.  

[01:10:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I believe he's here. I mean, it's funny. I've I've   I even had to help her, and it's like, no. Breezy will Breezy will find out, and I'll get in trouble. No. I'm on come.   But yeah. No. It is funny. But, yeah, Britt goes through   about every couple years because otherwise, Breezy Breezy's room would be nothing but stuffed animals top to bottom.  

[01:11:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Mhmm.  

[01:11:10] Rich Chelson:

You know? And Breezy is not gonna get rid of any of them. You know? So Well, of course not.   So  

[01:11:18] Unknown:

so Britt just dumps you. Some of the stuffed animals   and some of the stuffed animals that she has are gonna be worth some money   One day. Which is well, which is the Thai  

[01:11:29] Bryan Goodwin:

animals.   No. Actually, they won't.  

[01:11:32] Unknown:

Well, there's one that will be.  

[01:11:36] Bryan Goodwin:

You hope it is.  

[01:11:37] Unknown:

No. There will be one for sure.   And that was the end   bear.  

[01:11:44] Bryan Goodwin:

You know how many people got the end bear?  

[01:11:47] Unknown:

You know how many of those they made   of the end   bear?  

[01:11:52] Rich Chelson:

How many?  

[01:11:53] Unknown:

There was less than 2,000 made,   period.  

[01:11:57] Rich Chelson:

Has the end there been played with?   No.   It's still in the package.  

[01:12:04] Unknown:

Well, Ty doesn't do packages. Well, Ty doesn't have packages, but it's in it's in a case.   Okay.  

[01:12:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. It is it is in brand new condition.  

[01:12:17] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, maybe   maybe one day after we're dead and gone, it might be worth something.  

[01:12:24] Unknown:

And that's fine because because it is not mine.  

[01:12:27] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:12:28] Unknown:

You know, may maybe one day,   it will be. It was supposed to because   the end there   was supposed to be   the last one   they ever made,   but they continued after 2,000.  

[01:12:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:12:45] Rich Chelson:

Well, see.   So, I mean,   it I don't know if things   I mean, ask yourself, Antiques Roadshow.   That show is not really on anymore   because   and it's sad because   I I mean, I watch reruns,   and they compare prices from well, the shows I watch, I see normally are from   2,001,   and then they show you the price of at 2,016.   And, I mean, a lot of people,   yeah, the prices fluctuate up or down. I mean, some go up, some go down, but I don't think much since then because   most of the mindset,   people just   psychos old.   We don't care about it. You know?  

[01:13:32] Unknown:

Right. Well and right now,   the mindset   is   it used to it and it still is.   Everything has a price   if one person is willing to pay for it. To pay it. Yeah.   So   right now,   I ain't buying fucking shit   except for stuff that I had to have to replace.   I had to replace the fucking pots and pans   here this past week because,   you know, they were   just getting   to where the   the nonstick was sticking.   So I had to get some new   pans.   But you have some new nonstick pans?   Well, I got ceramic ones now. But they you know, these nonstick pans we've had for fucking   ten years.  

So I had to replace it, but I ain't fucking buying   shit.   Why?   You know?   Because the economy   well, food in general,   food is up.   Which is fine. I'm never gonna be able to control the price of a dozen eggs, a fucking pound of bacon,   or anything like that.   But I ain't gonna go out here   by,   oh, I saw this. This was cute. I need to buy one of those.   No.   Why? Because   I have spent   four days this week   organizing   crap,   and I mean just   throwing away   crap.   And I'll continue tomorrow. I got a whole fucking shelf   of crap in my well, I'm gonna have to put them in bags because garbage can's completely full now.   And I have four bags of fucking   crap that is   crap, and   I'll go find a dumpster and put that in there. But Alright.  

So, yeah, there's still a lot of stuff I need to   get rid of.   So   but   it'll get gone,   or   I will die   and   how you will have a fucking estate sale.   And you call it all kinds of money.  

[01:15:53] Bryan Goodwin:

You'll be surprised.   Again, as people have always like, oh, yeah. You have an estate sale. You'll make you'll make several, but, you know,   make good chunk of change.   No. If whatever you not going to. No. I was gonna say whatever you predict   you're gonna make on an estate sale,   you if you're lucky, you'll get a third of that amount.   Yeah. That's true. Typically, you'll get about   a sixth to an eighth under that amount.  

[01:16:24] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:16:26] Bryan Goodwin:

And,   I mean, it's just it's   a lot of people just   they put more value in what their stuff is than what the public does. It's like, oh, yeah. This, you know, the in bear. Yeah. That'll that'll be worth about $2,000.   No. No. $25.  

[01:16:45] Unknown:

As long as it's as long as it goes over for what I paid for it   in 1999,   then  

[01:16:53] Bryan Goodwin:

So so 50¢   is what it'll what I'll probably go for.   It   my luck  

[01:17:02] Unknown:

My luck, I'm sure.   But, of course, that's Ron's luck.  

[01:17:07] Bryan Goodwin:

But,   a lot of it is, like like, what I've been actually, I've just kinda started doing   past year or so is   just go   a   a trick that I have heard   several wise married men say   is   about once every three months,   go through   a a   bunch go through a a a pile of stuff   and fill it back up and throw it out. Don't tell the wife what you've thrown out. Don't tell the kids. Don't tell anybody. Just grab a bunch of stuff, throw it out.   And by the time you need to move again, you will actually   be   a lot lighter. No one's gonna miss anything.  

[01:17:53] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:17:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Because if you ain't touched it in five years, you're not gonna fucking touch it.  

[01:17:59] Bryan Goodwin:

You haven't touched it in a year. You're not ever gonna fucking touch it.  

[01:18:03] Rich Chelson:

That's correct.  

[01:18:04] Unknown:

That's true. Except for,  

[01:18:06] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, all of my Your your jack stands. Your your  

[01:18:10] Unknown:

Jack stands.   You know, paintbrushes,   paint rollers,   you know,   as long as they No. But   but  

[01:18:20] Bryan Goodwin:

but most most   every time I have ever needed a paintbrush or paint roller,   I normally go off and buy brand new ones.  

[01:18:29] Unknown:

Yeah. But what about the brand new ones that are still sitting in your garage someplace that you forgot where you put them at,   and   you now laid eyes on them?  

[01:18:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Yeah. Yeah. I I I hold on to those because I'm gonna need them sometime.   I go buy some new ones.  

[01:18:46] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:18:48] Unknown:

Because Just because why? Because you couldn't find the fucking other ones. Right.   Hence,  

[01:18:54] Bryan Goodwin:

four pairs of go ahead and just toss them out if when you find them because you're gonna be buying new ones anyhow.  

[01:19:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Even even if you move them to a place, oh, I'm gonna remember this. No. You're not. No. You won't. No. You're not.   You're just gonna go buy you know, go to Lowe's or Home Depot and go buy some more.   You know?   And so it's like Better. Just give them away because you're gonna go buy more.  

[01:19:19] Unknown:

Yeah. Kinda like nuts and bolts.   Yeah. I got fucking   goddamn I got enough nuts and bolts around here   to fill up a fucking toolbox. Mhmm.  

[01:19:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I've got to find them. I've got wood screws at the end.   Nuts, bolts, wood screws.   Yeah.   Machine screws.  

[01:19:40] Rich Chelson:

Yep. I don't I don't I don't buy screws or anything like that until I I'm absolutely down to, like, 10.   Oh. And then and and then I go buy more because I've got screws   that are   ten years old.  

[01:19:56] Unknown:

Well, so do I. But I can't I can never find them when I'm fucking wrong.  

[01:20:01] Rich Chelson:

Inching fives.   I I got, man, I got an ass load.  

[01:20:05] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:20:06] Rich Chelson:

Oh, y'all wanna hear   how smart freaking Billy is?   I swear this dog.  

[01:20:13] Bryan Goodwin:

She She counts change and gives it back to you.  

[01:20:16] Rich Chelson:

Damn near. Damn near. Damn near. Alright.   Now this week,   I had been back here,   you know, working on that one program,   trying to get it set,   and then switching my other computer over to Linux. So I spent a lot of time Sunday and Monday here,   you know, back here in in in the back room.   I'm talking all day.   You know, I would let her out and stuff like that. Well, come Tuesday,   she had had enough,   and I   she had gone out, came back in, and I was gonna walk back here.   She ran in front of me and was blocking me from coming back here.   And I said, hang on, sweetheart. I I'll go watch TV with you. Just hang on. I gotta   finish this one thing.  

And and, I mean,   she even tried to block me from sitting in my chair. And so I sat down,   and   I got I got things covered up, done,   you know,   to the point I could, closed it all out. And she plopped herself down beside me and waited till I got done.   And then it was like, okay. I'll go in the living room. And she got behind me and followed me and would not would not get in front of me until   I turned the TV   to a TV show because I've got it running right now, you know, just on music or whatnot. But, yeah, she   she was like, no. You've been back here too long. You   you're gonna sit and watch TV with me.  

I'm like, oh my god. I was laughing my ass off because I mean I mean, she seriously   got in front of me and was trying to push me back out   of the door here in this room and and,   you know, was was like, no.   You're not gonna spend another night down here, dad.   You're gonna come watch TV.   Alright. Fine.   Damn you.   So, yeah, she,   yeah, she,   definitely   has a mind of her own.  

[01:22:19] Unknown:

Well, maybe one day,   she'll   get to the ball phase   and enjoy you tossing a tennis ball   for more than two times.  

[01:22:32] Rich Chelson:

She hates the tennis ball. We'll not chase it.   We'll not.  

[01:22:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Except Well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well well  

[01:22:55] Rich Chelson:

And and I bought it with two legs on it, and she had the first leg off within, like, twenty four hours.   And and the second leg   finally came off, I don't know, a couple weeks later.   And she plays with each one of those, so I have to throw those too. And then the turkey was just laying there just   poor turkey was laying there legless,   couldn't move. And and then she   got into it   and made a hole,   started ripping the stuffing out. And a lot of times, I walk in the living room, and it looks like   a murder scene.   And then there was a squeaker toy in the turkey,   and she   and   the squeaker toy was inside of a bag inside of the turkey. Okay?  

So she pulled the squeaker toy out,   and she would play with that because it was still in the bag, and she couldn't get that bag open. It took her, like, two, three weeks to finally get that bag open.   And it's a it's a small little ball that squeaks.   Now that,   she will play with that all day long,   but okay. Wait.   There's more.   The, bag that it was in,   She now plays with that bag as well. She'll   she'll run, grab it, pick it up, throw it, and she'll go chase it, or I'll get it from her. And then I'll throw it all of two feet, And she pounces on it, and she's trying to shred it, but that's not working too well for her. But she's still working on it. But that's the only ball she plays with because I've got two tennis balls   and two other plastic balls or rubber balls with the little nubs on them that light up. Uh-huh. She won't touch any one of those. But that small little squeaker ball,   she oh, man. She will chase that thing around the house like you wouldn't believe.  

And I can still throw what's left of   the legless turkey, and she'll run and go get it. I can throw her turkey leg. She'll run and go get them. I mean, dogs just ate up.   I'm telling you. She just ate up.   So  

[01:25:01] Unknown:

yeah. Well, what they need to do,   and I don't know if they sell them,   is just make   squeakers.   Nothing   no squeak   just the fucking squeakers.  

[01:25:15] Rich Chelson:

I don't know if they just make those. They mine?  

[01:25:18] Unknown:

They mine.  

[01:25:19] Rich Chelson:

But oh, yeah. She and, oh,   something else she did this week.   She was freaking busy this week. Okay?   I'm telling you. Hang on. This was this was Sunday, I think it was. I was back here doing my thing.   And,   you know, I I you know, Bella was in the living room playing, you know, squeaking her little turkey legs and shit, her cow legs. And And then all of a sudden, things got kinda quiet.   I'm like, yeah. What's going on? Let me check on this. So I walk in the living room,   and I walk in there,   and a paper towel roll   went poof right in my living room. Totally shredded.  

Just   spontaneously   combusted.   That's what she wanted me to believe,   except she's laying right there on the floor by it.  

[01:26:11] Bryan Goodwin:

It's like I'm like, oh, hell. I saved you, dad. I saved you. I took the I took the blow of the of  

[01:26:18] Rich Chelson:

right. But and then so I get that cleaned up. You know, I just was shaking my head. I'm like, oh my god. Well, the next day, Monday,   I'm back here again doing my thing. Right?   And,   again, I hear her playing.   And then I hear this weird sound. It was like,   it was it was it it was just a weird sound. I'm like, yeah. That don't sound right.   I walk in the living room,   and I'm like, not another roll of paper towels.   Oh, no. No. No. No. She went in the bathroom and got a roll of fucking toilet paper  

[01:26:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[01:26:56] Rich Chelson:

And had Fun stuff.   Had three fourths   three fourths of it   exploded   by the time I saw it. I'm like, oh, hell no. I mean, I didn't get mad at her. I was laughing more than anything. But I'm like, oh, no, ma'am.   No, ma'am. You don't touch my toilet paper. You can touch the paper towels, but you ain't touching my toilet paper, Eddie.   And she jumped on the couch just looking at me like, I didn't do it then. I didn't do it. No. I know you did it. You ain't touching my toilet paper.   And so I had to put my toilet paper up under the sink   instead of where it was at because,   yeah, she, yeah, she definitely   exploded a roll of toilet paper as well.  

It was frequently you.  

[01:27:41] Unknown:

Yep. Because you were back in the computer room.   Mhmm.  

[01:27:45] Rich Chelson:

Yep. And it's it's like it's like, don't you have enough toys? You've got a dinosaur that's not tore apart. You've got a cow that's not tore apart.   You've   got your the two legs of your turkey.  

[01:27:58] Unknown:

And you're not the same to get it. It's not the same to get your attention.   Right.  

[01:28:03] Rich Chelson:

She got your attention, didn't she? Yeah. My god. She did. Yeah. She definitely wanted your attention.  

[01:28:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I I know that. Come on, Paul. Let's go walk. Let's get out there. Go do something.  

[01:28:16] Rich Chelson:

No.   But and so and so today,   I wound up going over to Jim and Dina's, and I took her with me to because Dina's dog, Ringo.   Those two are, like,   peas and pearls. Buddies. Yeah. Oh my god. They and, I mean, they just   in fact, it was funny. They were playing, and and Ringo just rolled her.   He ruined right. He just run right over. He just   rolled her side over side. Now, man, I was laughing. I was laughing.   Bella got up. I'm like, what? You want some more? You want some more? I'm like, damn.   It was it was hilarious.  

[01:28:53] Unknown:

But   Ringo was going through some   medical issues   when I was down there. Is this the first time   that Bella has seen Ringo?  

[01:29:04] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. No.   No. No. No.   No. Bella   Bella and Ringo's have,   played,   you know, couple different times.   Oh, okay. And everything like that. And, yeah, they're like buds, man.   They're like, oh my god. They're   seriously, they are like peas and carrots.  

[01:29:23] Unknown:

You know, so so you know what that means. Right? But  

[01:29:27] Bryan Goodwin:

you need to get a Ringo too.  

[01:29:30] Rich Chelson:

Negative Ghost Rider.   That pattern is full.  

[01:29:34] Unknown:

Well, she would have a companion to,   you know, know  

[01:29:38] Rich Chelson:

what? I can drive less than a mile,   and nine times out of 10,   Dina will watch her and loves to watch her.   Dina, I'm gonna drop Bella off.   Her and Ringo can play till they're   wore the hell out. In fact in fact, they have played so hard this afternoon.   We got home. It wasn't forty five minutes later. Bella has passed out on the couch.   And I sent a picture to Dina. Dina sends me a picture. Ringo's passed out on the couch.   They wore each other.  

[01:30:12] Bryan Goodwin:

They A happy dog is a tired dog.  

[01:30:16] Rich Chelson:

That is no lie.   But, yeah, they,   yeah, they definitely,   just wore each other out. I I mean, it's just freaking hilarious.  

[01:30:25] Unknown:

So do you do the play date about, what, once a week ish?  

[01:30:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Ish.   I mean,   yeah. It's it's once a week, once every couple weeks, and yeah. It just   and the what's funny,   Jim and Dina   can't tell Ringo   Bella's coming over, or   they can't even mention her name   Uh-huh. Because he starts whining.   And and he will he will not shut up   until   she comes over.   Always is yeah. It's yeah. It's freaking comical.   Jim and me both.  

[01:31:03] Unknown:

That would be funny to see.  

[01:31:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. They can't they can't say her name.   Otherwise,   Ringo just, like, just goes eight nuts. He's like, where's she at? Where's she at? Where's she at?   You know? I said, no. Hell no. Where's she at? You know?   You know? And and then I show up, and then, of course, they're all happy and running around and   acting goofy.  

[01:31:28] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[01:31:29] Rich Chelson:

So   so, yeah, Bella gets to go over there and and,   play with Ringo.   And I just sit out there and watch her. Oh, I'm sure that's  

[01:31:39] Unknown:

that's,   you know, entertainment in itself.  

[01:31:42] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that it is.   That it is. Like like, Ringo rolling there today. I about   fell out my chair laughing   because they were just banging.  

[01:31:53] Unknown:

Did Bella even see it coming?   No. No. Or did she when she got up, it's like, what the fuck?   Yeah. Pretty much. What the hell just happened here?  

[01:32:03] Rich Chelson:

Right. And I got free trade.   And she stood up and and and then found Ringo and then ran and   and see and started biting his ears.   And it's funny when I'm over there. Right?   If if I try to you know, like, like, if we're leaving and I'm putting Bella's collar or   harness on her, you know,   I've got Ringo over here   barking   at me like, no. You ain't fucking taking her.   You know?   He doesn't bite me,   but he gets close. I can feel his breath. He's barking at me. Like, no. You're not taking her. You're not taking her.  

[01:32:43] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:32:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. He's like, uh-uh. No. No. It's not happening. I'm like, yeah. It is, dude. And he's like,  

[01:32:50] Bryan Goodwin:

he said it. Happen.  

[01:32:52] Unknown:

Oh my god. A half hour, he's laid the fuck out. Yep. Pretty much.  

[01:32:58] Rich Chelson:

Pretty much.   Yeah. It's funny. Oh my god. It's it's   those two are are a pair. I guarantee it.   So, yeah, Bella is is she's   she's definitely   growing up. That's for damn sure.   She had had enough though. My god. Dad, you're gonna spend time with me.  

[01:33:17] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:33:18] Rich Chelson:

And that's the thing, though. I've already told her about this weekend more than once.   Now I'm a tell her again tomorrow.   It doesn't matter.  

[01:33:28] Unknown:

Doesn't matter.   She is all about and will always be about the   right   now.   She'll just do shits about the future.  

[01:33:39] Bryan Goodwin:

He doesn't care about the future. Mhmm. Don't care about the past. She is all about the moment.  

[01:33:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, see, that was, like, that was, like, earlier.   You know, it was about 05:30 or so, almost six.   And I told her I was coming back here, you know, and,   I said, I've got a podcast, so I'm gonna be back here a while. Well, just shortly after we got started,   she comes running in   trying to get me   into the living room, but realized that I've got the microphone in front of me. I got headphones on. And, I mean, you know, someone listening to this   might be thinking you're full of shit, but, no, this dog is fucking smart.   You know, she   saw what was happening,   and she just turned around and went back in the living room. She's like, nope. Dad's not coming in.  



[01:34:26] Unknown:

No. It's not happening. And she Yeah. Yeah. And she knows your habits.   Uh-huh.   She knows that when the microphone and the headphones are on,   you are doing something that you need to be left alone.  

[01:34:40] Rich Chelson:

Right. And, yeah, she you know, unless she has to go to bathroom,   then she'll come bug me, but that's rare.  

[01:34:47] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:34:48] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. She knows that I'm doing something.   And so she's like, okay. I'll go lay down. I'll go to sleep.   And then when we're done,   I'll go spend time with her, let her outside,   and all like that, and   then we'll go to bed.  

[01:35:05] Unknown:

Yep. And things are   good in the good in her world.  

[01:35:10] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Yep.   So yeah. I know. She's   I tell you what. She's   she's smart as a damn whip. I will take care of that. Slowly getting you trained.  

[01:35:22] Unknown:

Yes, sir. What you need now what you need to do is you need to start, you know,   working with the training of her,   you know, hand signals.   Yeah. And some training and training for her   well, she doesn't have you trained.   She has you wrapped   around her little bender.   It ain't nothing about training. She has you wrapped.   But now she needs to   get training,   you know, do the hand signals and so on like that.   Yeah.   And then maybe, you know, then you can join the police force, and you can be a k nine officer.  

[01:36:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. It's not gonna happen, dude.  

[01:36:04] Unknown:

Oh, you pussy.  

[01:36:06] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:36:07] Unknown:

Yeah. And you're right. I ain't doing it either. I'm too old for that shit.   I ain't chasing fucking anybody   whatsoever.   No? Thank you.   You're running. I'll just shoot your ass.   Yep. Fucking running crap.   I agree. Then you're gonna have an investigation, then you're gonna get put on admin leave, and then you're gonna have a lawsuit.   So, you know, so to forego the lawsuit, I will just stay a civilian.  

[01:36:34] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Pretty much.   Saves me heartache and stress and money.   You know? Yep.  

[01:36:40] Unknown:

Yep. Have you   have you been watching the news about fucking   Illinois?  

[01:36:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope. Haven't heard anything about Illinois. Yeah. I was gonna say I haven't seen anything in Illinois. What's going on in Illinois?  

[01:36:54] Unknown:

The fucking mayor of Chicago  

[01:36:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, how the mayor of Chicago throwing a pit about,   about,   Trump.  

[01:37:02] Unknown:

No. No. No.   About   human rights   to the UN.   Forego   the fucking president. He fucking   emailed   the UN   about   some humanity   rights   with the illegals.  

[01:37:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:37:25] Unknown:

Wow. And now some fucking judge,   federal judge,   is   trying to get,   like, 800   illegal aliens   released   because   they are not on   the list of   that's known criminal   individual  

[01:37:50] Bryan Goodwin:

that's on the list of They're they're if they're in The US illegally,   then they're   broken the law.  

[01:37:57] Unknown:

Exactly.   But this federal judge   doesn't see it that way,   and he wants to have them released   within the next   ten days.  

[01:38:08] Bryan Goodwin:

I've done. If I was Trump, I'd be going, okay. Okay. I'll release them   in Southern Argentina.   Well I'll send them down there. Now. Release them. They can do what they want. And well yeah. But now it's gonna get to a point that  

[01:38:24] Unknown:

the DOJ   has put in   a   petition or whatever   for it to go basically to the Supreme Court.  

[01:38:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:38:35] Unknown:

And, you know, if I was a Supreme Court justice, I'd be like,   why are we fucking hearing this shit?   They're in the country   illegally.   They need to go.   Right?   Oh, yeah. They're fucking Illinois   is fucking having a fit   about the national nor national guard because they ain't gonna activate, obviously, the Illinois national guard for support.   But all of the national guard majority of the man   national guard   that is getting deployed into all these other states   is coming from Texas.   Yeah. It's the Texas  

[01:39:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Texas guard.  

[01:39:19] Unknown:

Mhmm.   But the crime is down in the past   ten days.   The crime statistics   in Chicago   is down by double digits.   Homicides,   carjacking,   transit,   robberies,   There was, like, about six different categories that is down in percentages in the double digits.   Homicide is down by,   what was it, 27%   in the last ten days  

[01:39:51] Bryan Goodwin:

just because They're they're they're mad because   Trump didn't allow him the overwhelming of the systems   to to actually happen. He's put the he's dismantling the whole great reset   plan that that the globalist had actually had been working on.   And so then part of it was and that they're still doing it. You know? There's still it's still going on in oh, okay.   It's still going on, and you can see the results of it in Europe. I mean, the EU   got Great Britain   is is   is getting overrun with with with African and and Middle Eastern immigrants   who are just there just, you know, for the free ride. They're not there, you know, they're not there for   to improve the quality of of Great Britain. They're there just because they can get free shit.  



[01:40:48] Unknown:

Yeah. And the same thing with Poland and and and  

[01:40:52] Bryan Goodwin:

the other places in in Europe.   Yeah. Except for Poland. Poland's guy going, fuck you. We're not doing the we're not we're not allowing this bullshit.  

[01:41:03] Unknown:

Yeah. And then we have the people in The United States that wanna fit. It's more important for them to have a trillion dollars   for   Medicaid, Medicare to illegal aliens   than it is for the rest of the citizens   to get paid   their jobs.  

[01:41:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.   Air air traffic controllers  

[01:41:25] Unknown:

were a month without pay.   Just think if they fucking walked off the damn jobs. If I ain't getting paid, you know what? I ain't coming to work.  

[01:41:33] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Hold on. Let me ask a question because this and and thank you, dude, for for bringing this up because   I heard this   a while back when this happened at the last time.   Why   are air traffic controllers   not getting paid?   They are not federal employees.  

[01:41:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes. They are. Yeah. They're federal they're Department of Transportation.  

[01:41:56] Unknown:

Yeah. No. FAA.  

[01:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. Well,  

[01:41:59] Unknown:

FAA is not a part of it. Okay. And if FAA falls underneath the Department of Transportation, yes. All air traffic controllers are FAA.  

[01:42:07] Rich Chelson:

I did not know that.  

[01:42:08] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:42:10] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Never mind then.  

[01:42:12] Unknown:

So if they walked off the job,   air traffic   stops.   TSA,   you know, the half of them been had to go on furlough because they weren't getting paid.  

[01:42:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Right?  

[01:42:26] Unknown:

Okay. Now the lines to get through TSA in a major airport,   three, four, five, six hours   long, you're standing in line to get through TSA.  

[01:42:37] Rich Chelson:

I don't fly, so it don't bother me. And and  

[01:42:41] Unknown:

neither do I, so it doesn't bother me either. Right.  

[01:42:44] Bryan Goodwin:

But   Yeah. If I'm not gonna pay paid Yeah. I wouldn't either. I  

[01:42:51] Unknown:

you ain't gonna pay me?   You know? And, yes, there are those individuals,   I myself,   that are dedicated to   the right thing,   and a lot of the air traffic controllers   are dedicated to the right   thing,   their moral compass,   not the financial compass, but the moral compass.   But it's like, you know what? If you ain't gonna pay us,   what if we all don't come to work? Are you gonna fire all of us?   That would never happen.  

[01:43:26] Bryan Goodwin:

I think if Reagan did that once,   because well, of course, he didn't do it. He did it because they were striking   the Correct.   And and so he's just like, well, if you're gonna strike, you're fired.   So, you don't have a job to go to now. So  

[01:43:43] Unknown:

Yeah. And right now, even if they're fully staffed,   they're still short staffed.  

[01:43:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[01:43:50] Unknown:

If everybody's working, they're show still short staffed.   You know, is it a line of employment that I'd like to go to? No. Not really. Really? You know, I like I like my evenings. I like my weekends.   You know?   And the stress level? Yeah.   I don't think I'd do well.   That's a very, very, very high stress level fucking occupation.   But, yeah, you know, if I ain't getting paid, why the fuck do I why should I show up for work?   Are you gonna fire me?   Because I'm not showing up? Well, fuck. I'm not getting paid,   so why should I come to work?  

But   border patrol,   ICE agents,   you know, all of them weren't getting paid either.  

[01:44:32] Bryan Goodwin:

No.   Military wasn't.  

[01:44:35] Rich Chelson:

Well, actually actually, someone donated enough money to yeah. Someone yeah. One of the,  

[01:44:42] Bryan Goodwin:

I forget exactly how much he he donated, but he don't and he donated a lot of freaking money  

[01:44:47] Unknown:

to Yeah. A $130,000,000,000   is what he donated   for one month   to pay the military.   That's active duty.   A $130,000,000,   he donated.   I don't remember the guy's name, but there was an there was a article out on him.   But to him, that was fucking   pocket change   of his net worth.   And for   deduct all and he can make that as a deduction,   you know, the government's gonna be giving him back money   because of all the deductions.   They that he will get from that 130   no. 130,000,000,   not billion. A $130,000,000.   Million. Yeah. With an amp. For one yeah. Yeah. Not billion. A 130,000,000.   But it's being a billionaire   yeah. Well, even being a billionaire,   or that's 13%   of his net worth if he was had 1,000,000,000.  



[01:45:48] Rich Chelson:

So And and   what they did today I think it was today   or late last night.   All they did was,   put a stopgap in to,   shut the Democrats up and   get everything running again.  

[01:46:06] Unknown:

Yeah. They got this they got the 60 votes. I think it was Tuesday.  

[01:46:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But but it it didn't fully reopen the government. It it's it's a stopgap measure just to give them enough money till the January.   So at the January,   we're gonna go through this shit again.  

[01:46:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Well well But see, the difference between what happened now and what happened it was gonna happen in January   is the Democrats were gonna shut it shut the government down anyhow   because they were   shut   down so that they had   so to go through this special election cycle.  

[01:46:44] Unknown:

That was their primary  

[01:46:46] Bryan Goodwin:

reasoning That for this election. Three days after the elections, they were like, oh, yeah. Let's go ahead and, let's cave. And which is funny because the all the, all the democrat   constituents were all throwing a fix going, oh, sure. We're okay. Bye bye. You know? It's like, do you want the government open, or do you not want the government open?   They're bitching that the government did that. They can't get their food stamps, but then they're also bitching that the government opened up again. And so it's like,   you have no these people have no sense of   of logic.  



[01:47:25] Rich Chelson:

It's like Well, that's why they're Democrats.  

[01:47:28] Unknown:

Well,   and they yeah. And   they have power. And what do they want more of? More power.  

[01:47:37] Rich Chelson:

They ain't gonna get it. That's that's You know, I think if they if they  

[01:47:41] Unknown:

do this shit, what they need to have a contingent is   is if   the government shuts down,   their pay stops,   their accounts are frozen,   period.  

[01:47:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I think the  

[01:47:56] Unknown:

yeah. Yeah. Government shuts down. They don't have yeah. They don't have any access   to any funds,   period.  

[01:48:04] Rich Chelson:

Right.   That's never gonna happen.  

[01:48:07] Unknown:

No. No. It you're right. It's never gonna happen, but it would be   you don't a nice effect. Yeah. Oh, it wouldn't be think that they would   freaking, like,   if their all their funds are frozen and they ain't getting paid,   they won't fucking   think  

[01:48:24] Rich Chelson:

or reboot. One. No. They won't. Action.   But two, their funds will never be frozen or anything because if that's the case, then it would have already been done.   No.  

[01:48:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, you wouldn't be able to freeze the freeze their funds, but I think it'd be   deny them their their paycheck   even though you got people like Pelosi that  

[01:48:46] Unknown:

yeah. Their pay Pelosi's paycheck   don't mean shit of what her net worth is   based upon   insider fucking   information   of what made her rich in the first fucking place Right. While she was in office.  

[01:49:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   But still, they would still throw a cup absolute fit. Like, it's not fair that you're denying us our our paychecks. Like, well, you're denying   What? Military   or everybody else, their paycheck. So you should be the first one whose whose  

[01:49:19] Unknown:

paycheck should be stopped.   Well, then look at this aspect.   Their staff's   paychecks were stopped.   If I was one of their staff person, I'd be like,   okay. You gonna fucking pay me?   Because my position, government position, it ain't paying me. You gonna fucking pay my paycheck?   If not, shut the fuck up and go vote and reopen up the goddamn government,   you fucking piece of shit.  

[01:49:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But,   again, it's not gonna happen.  

[01:49:53] Unknown:

We know that, but it would  

[01:49:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Be nice if it would.  

[01:49:58] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yes. It would. It would change  

[01:50:01] Unknown:

the mindset   of a lot of individuals.  

[01:50:04] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Have you heard what what Robert Kennedy has been doing?   No.   Oh,   he's gone after Ilhan Omar,   AOC,   and he   has gathered   their tweets, their their stuff on on social media, and he's read it so loud in congress.  

[01:50:25] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I have heard that. No. I was thinking about the other Kennedy.  

[01:50:29] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   oh, he is. And and and the thing is, he's not screaming. He's not yelling. He's just reading their words.   And then at the end, he's he's just mic dropping them is what he's doing.   And, oh my god, they are just going   through every freaking   thing. It's crazy.  

[01:50:49] Unknown:

You know? I mean And as soon as they and as soon as they deport   Omar   and AOC  

[01:50:57] Bryan Goodwin:

I wouldn't be able to deport AOC. She's a she's an actual citizen.   Elian Omar,   I think she's a naturalized citizen, actually. I think because she's only a naturalized citizen, I think, like, in the   from the, early nineties.  

[01:51:15] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, they died they well, Kennedy's got the documentation that she fucking lied on her.  

[01:51:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. She, yeah, she lied. I mean, she's she's   apparently I mean, the rumor has it that she was she was married to her brother or, quote, unquote, supposed to be married to her brother as a and he was supposed to be her husband   whenever they were they were getting   getting their their naturalization   stuff.  

[01:51:40] Rich Chelson:

Well and and   and he even brought that up because that was one of her statements.   And Yeah. She said why she married her brother, she said, you know, it's easier and everyone,   I guess, of her race   does it over here.   Oh, yeah. He Yeah. He and and yeah. He's, yeah, he's freaking   Mike dropped them all. And Mhmm. They're just blowing up.   You know? They can't they can't handle it because   and and it's about time   it took   someone,   an ex Democrat, as a matter of fact,   to actually stand up and say   simple,   plain English   words.   It's it's it's not laden with big words or you should do this. You should do that. He's just stating fact.  

Yep. And he's saying,   you're wrong.   And Mhmm. You know, and that's the thing. And it's brought to the light.   So so no one can ignore it. They can't   shove it under the rugs   or anything   because it's   it's and so, hopefully,   they freaking do something about it. Yeah.   Do. I hope so.   But yeah. No. I've been I've been hearing that, and I'm like, oh my god. About damn.  

[01:53:02] Unknown:

So Kennedy was a Democrat at one time? Yes.  

[01:53:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Still Yeah. Talking talking about, yeah, senator Kennedy from Louisiana.  

[01:53:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Mhmm.   Yep.   And,   honestly,   I don't I don't think he's I don't think he's still a Democrat.  

[01:53:21] Unknown:

But, you know, he  

[01:53:23] Rich Chelson:

could you say that's the thing? All of the Kennedys   have been   Democrats.  

[01:53:29] Unknown:

They've been Now are we talking about   not the one that's in   Congress.   We're talking about which one are we talking about now? The one that senator Kennedy from Louisiana, not the not RFK.   Okay. Just wanted to make sure. Yeah. Okay.   Yeah. I think I remember a long time ago hearing something that he   used to be a Democrat and said, fuck this shit   and became a outspoken Republican.  

[01:54:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Kinda pretty much.   But, yeah, he, yeah, he, yeah, he doesn't take no crap.   He doesn't   he just he just   he just flat got tired of their shit.   And Yep. He's got files   on everybody, and and it's funny because Chuck Schumer   is chairing these   these, committees and stuff.   And the last article I read, I forget which oh, Soros.   It was talking about George Soros.   And Chuck Schumer was banging that gavel trying to get him to shut up. He didn't shut up. He just kept talking.   He just kept freaking talking. I was like, oh my god.  

[01:54:38] Unknown:

I knew I liked this shit. Well, fucking Schumer and shit shouldn't be chairing   anything.  

[01:54:45] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah, you would think, but he does.  

[01:54:47] Unknown:

Well, I know. You know?   But Ron's opinion doesn't matter when it comes to fucking   national politics   and politicians.  

[01:54:57] Rich Chelson:

Right. But oh, I mean, same here.  

[01:55:00] Unknown:

But, you know,   Republicans   as a whole need to stand the fuck up   and start speaking   because they've always been   quiet,   the politicians,   not the general public.   But   I, as the general public,   I can talk and talk and talk all I want, and the only thing it's gonna do is fucking all the hot air is gonna heat up the room.   Right. It ain't gonna do shit   because I'm not a   voted in   individual.   And I don't think I'd ever want that because   that job because I just tell, like,   Omar, you know, sit down and shut the fuck up.   Right.   And see how far that carries.  

Or do that to AOC every time she starts speaking.   Shut the fuck up.   She starts speaking. Shut the fuck up.   I'm sure I'd be censored,   but in a good way.  

[01:56:04] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. As I I had been reading those articles. You know, I'd see them pop up, and I'm like, what? Let me check this out. And I'd read them. I'm like, oh my god. Finally.   Someone who speaks plain freaking English   and is actually There we go. Saying something about these people.   Yeah. You know, bringing out just exactly who they are.  

[01:56:25] Unknown:

You know? And Yeah. And it's all and it and it's not like they're he's digging in   to anything.   No. All of the stuff that he has fucking   said out loud   is fucking   public knowledge open to the public. Yeah. Yeah.   Like, he's breaking the law. It's he's fucking   what they say,   what they do.   He's just bringing it to light.  

[01:56:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And he has That's the stuff they've said on Facebook, Twitter, or whatever.   Yeah.   I mean, it's it's not,   you know so, yeah, like you said, it is public knowledge.  

[01:57:04] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:57:05] Rich Chelson:

And, yeah, they just yeah. They can't stand it.  

[01:57:09] Unknown:

Well, what they need to do is just shut the fuck up and go to the fuck back home.   And that, like, that ticket that's running for mayor of   Minneapolis  

[01:57:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, it oh, it   Omar would  

[01:57:27] Unknown:

But he was when he was doing his   one of his rallies or whatever,   he's got the Somali flag and The United States flag, the full size ones behind him, but he's waving a fucking small Somali flag in his hand.  

[01:57:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But see, the thing is, he lost,   and   Omar just went nuts.   She went totally nuts.  

[01:57:52] Unknown:

Well, time for both of them to   do whatever the fuck they wanna do and go back to Somalia and do it there. That's what they need to talk to.  

[01:58:02] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.  

[01:58:03] Unknown:

I agree. The country anyway, so   why the fuck are you even here?   All because   your country   would fucking shoot your ass,   not think twice about it,   but you don't want that.  

[01:58:18] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:58:19] Unknown:

You know, because they'd go back to their country   and both of them and get fucking probably executed.  

[01:58:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Probably would.  

[01:58:28] Unknown:

Because they think that   their   stature in The States is worth something in Somalia. No. I was probably fucking have them   gone in a day.   Probably so.   Would it hurt my feelings?   Not a bit. Seeing as how I don't have any anyway,   Lost those years ago, decades ago.   Doesn't matter to me. I think that they   should both be publicly   you know,   a good ass whooping in public.  

[01:59:03] Rich Chelson:

That probably wouldn't help.  

[01:59:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Make me fucking feel better. Nah. Just a good public humiliation   and then haunted.  

[01:59:10] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's what that's what   freaking what's his name is doing. Yeah.  

[01:59:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Which I I mean, I started.  

[01:59:18] Unknown:

Now maybe if something happened like what happened to Jesus,  

[01:59:23] Rich Chelson:

I wouldn't give him that honor.  

[01:59:25] Unknown:

No. But that's what needs wealth.   Mhmm. They need a good lashing.   Yeah. He just didn't need  

[01:59:34] Rich Chelson:

it. No. That's true. That's true.  

[01:59:37] Bryan Goodwin:

He took it.   But  

[01:59:40] Rich Chelson:

He didn't need it or ask for it, but, yeah, he took it.  

[01:59:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.  

[01:59:45] Unknown:

Why?   Because   the individuals that were in power, what do they want? More power.  

[01:59:52] Rich Chelson:

Well, the thing is they were   they were afraid of him.  

[01:59:57] Unknown:

Yes. Because   they were afraid of getting their power taken away from him.  

[02:00:03] Rich Chelson:

And in the end doing   and   in the end, even though it wasn't seen right then, and it's still not being totally seen,   but   when he died on the cross, their power was taken.   But   they talk enough.   You know? That's why we have 3,000 religions today.  

[02:00:26] Unknown:

Well   and I can't judge.   Only one person can judge.   I can make a comment.   I can have thoughts, but can I judge anybody? No. Because that's God's job.  

[02:00:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. But that's what that's what a judgment is. It's just a thought.   Because to to think that they,   like Ilia Omar,   to think that she is,   you know, needing to have   a lashing is a judgment.   That's you just making a judgment call of, hey. She needs she needs to have this done to her.   Well, that would be   that would be a judgment. That's you know? And it's not that anybody even doesn't like judgments.   You like being judged.   You're a good man, Charlie Brown. That's me casting a judgment upon you about your character.   You actually like being judged.  

The thing that people don't like when it comes to being judged is that they don't like being negatively judged.  

[02:01:28] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[02:01:30] Unknown:

Yeah. You're   that is correct.  

[02:01:33] Rich Chelson:

That is true.  

[02:01:35] Unknown:

Can't argue that. But a good but a good   ass whooping never hurt anybody.  

[02:01:41] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. I agree that a good a good kick in the swift kick in the butt is   has has   lodged a person's brain back where it needs to be.  

[02:01:53] Unknown:

Yep. And that's what they need to do with some of these fucking   individuals that have just lost   every bit   of common sense.   It's not I don't care who you're politically   affiliated with, but, you know, goddamn.   Common sense   is common sense.  

[02:02:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Doing the right isn't all that common.  

[02:02:17] Unknown:

You're right. But doing the right thing,   you would think that you would want to do the right thing.  

[02:02:23] Rich Chelson:

Well, you say again,   not to be an ass, but   who's to say   our version of the right thing is the right thing?   I mean,   we agree that it is, but still  

[02:02:38] Unknown:

Okay. So lose your head.   No.   Okay.   So you would hope that everybody could be a   good   person. Decent person. Right.  

[02:02:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:02:53] Unknown:

Against another person,   whether it is political,   your   religious beliefs.   You know? But   how many wars have been started over religious   beliefs?  

[02:03:10] Rich Chelson:

Quite a few.  

[02:03:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Quite a few. Probably. Mhmm. The battle have also been started over women too. So  

[02:03:16] Unknown:

You're right. They've been and one war was fought because of a fucking soccer game.  

[02:03:24] Bryan Goodwin:

One war was fought because they didn't like the bird.  

[02:03:29] Unknown:

Yep. That war that because of the that war because of the soccer game only lasted two days, and it was in the   oh, freak.   In the southern, like,   Brazil,   that area   in South America,   it was a two day war, but it was still fought over because of the soccer game.  

[02:03:53] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I guess I hadn't heard about that one.  

[02:03:57] Unknown:

That that happened   decades ago.   Oh, okay. That's just one of those things that   okay.   Why   how many beads are supposed to be on a long dog tag chain   of the dog tags?  

[02:04:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I forgot.  

[02:04:14] Unknown:

365.   How many on the short chain?   52.   However, that will never happen   because then your dog tags would be hanging around your ding a ling a dong   Because   part there was two reasons for the dog tag chain. One, to hold your dog tags, and two, it was for a calendar if you were a POW.  

[02:04:41] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:04:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. The football war, also known as the soccer war or the hundred hour   war, was a brief military conflict fought between El Salvador and Honduras.  

[02:04:53] Unknown:

There you go.   I didn't remember what fucking country is it. And what year was that?  

[02:04:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Now you're asking a question. I gotta look at the phone again. Let's see here. '2. '2. '2.   1969.  

[02:05:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So   Oh, shit.   That was the year I was born.  

[02:05:12] Unknown:

Yeah. So it's it's been a few days, but it's just one of that pieces of knowledge that once you   retain,   you just never forget.   For whatever reason, you just don't forget it. Right.   All that, you know,   just like all the 80 history that I know that is totally irrelevant   to anything else in the world.   And I'm sure you remember   unit history   of the units that you guys served in that you'll never forget that is totally irrelevant   to anything else,   I'm sure.  

[02:05:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Not really. Honestly. Not really.   No. No. Hey. There's there doesn't Okay. Wouldn't the navy just   you know, it was yeah. I was   operation specialist. So and, I mean, the only thing only thing I could do was point to   to an OS in   in a movie. You know?   See the guy writing backwards on the clear board. Hey. That that that's a contact board. I I don't know what that is.  

[02:06:14] Rich Chelson:

I mean, Phil   Go ahead, Phil. Gonna I was gonna say I was gonna say if I thought about it,   yeah, I might. But,   you know, right now, off the top of my head, no.  

[02:06:26] Unknown:

I could I could tell you one. I will never ever forget it, period,   because it was just one of those ingrained things. You remember   jump boots? Mhmm.   Okay. Did you ever wear a pair of jump boots   Yes.   In your military career? Okay.   How many stitches were caught across the toe   of the jump boot?  

[02:06:50] Rich Chelson:

I used to know, but I don't anymore.  

[02:06:53] Unknown:

A 101 stitches.   How many stitches are on the   back plate   of the jump boot?  

[02:07:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Say, I used to know all that, but I don't anymore.  

[02:07:05] Unknown:

Yeah. It's just stupid shit that I just have never forgotten. There's 82 stitches  

[02:07:11] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[02:07:13] Unknown:

For the hundred and first and for the eighty second.  

[02:07:15] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:07:16] Unknown:

There's 13 dots   on the underside of the heel on the jump boot.   There's 48   stitches that hold   the sole   to the boot on or 48.   Yeah, 48 stitches.   So, you know, that kinda just military shit, the kinda shit that you just   never forget.  

[02:07:42] Rich Chelson:

I used to know that, but   like I said, I mean, I got out. I don't have jump boots. So you know? And plus, I wasn't in the hundred and first or the eighty second, so I didn't retain that knowledge.  

[02:07:55] Unknown:

Well,   I did.   And I still have my jump boots   up in the attic, and they still have a fucking mirror shine on them.  

[02:08:06] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:08:07] Unknown:

Now there's about freaking an eighth of an inch of dust on them, but they still have a fucking mirror shine on them.  

[02:08:15] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I I loved my jump boots.  

[02:08:18] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.   My shit was fucking looked like glass.   But, of course, that's   hundreds of hours of fucking polishing.   No. I never owned the chloroform   jump boots.  

[02:08:33] Rich Chelson:

I wasn't allowed to when I was in.   When those came out, was not allowed to have them.  

[02:08:40] Unknown:

You know? And it never you never were allowed, but they they,   you know,   didn't say much about them in some units.   Me, I just   I couldn't fucking do that because just where I started my military career at.  

[02:08:57] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:08:58] Unknown:

Just that was   no. You don't do that kind of bullshit. But now they have the fucking chloroform   low quarters.   Nobody fucking shines shoes anymore in the military, period. No.  

[02:09:10] Rich Chelson:

No. No. They issued chloroforms,  

[02:09:13] Unknown:

and it's this fucking suede boots.   I miss the discipline   of   boot shiny.   I really   do. I didn't mind shining my boots.  

[02:09:25] Rich Chelson:

I mean, because, well, one, for me, working in the motor pool,   I never really because any shine I put on them,   like,   half hour after formation, it was gone.   It was gone. That's absolutely correct. Yep. So so I didn't shine my boots a lot. But   when I did get to shine my boots, I mean yeah. Oh, yeah. It was I was a mirror.   You know? Yeah. I mean I mean, I had to wear sunglasses because the sun was beaming up in my eyes.   I've been a suntan from underneath.  

[02:09:55] Unknown:

Yeah. You're getting a, you know, a sunburn on the under portion of your chin.  

[02:10:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly.   It's like, damn.  

[02:10:03] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, I didn't I didn't shine them that often. But   now now if it was inspection time, oh my god. I blinded the   car for the first sergeant because my shit, my brass,   everything Yep. I it was oh, man. No. I was standing tall and looking good.   I   I never I never failed an inspection.   Yep.   Because my shit was dressed right dressed at all fucking times.  

[02:10:32] Unknown:

Yep. Same here.   Yeah. That's I shine I shine my boots every night,   about an hour a night every night.   But, again, that was,   you know,   our discipline of the unit that I was in.   Right. So it was just, you know,   that aspect.  

[02:10:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. There was   any inspection I had   Well, I mean I mean I mean, my shit stayed dressed the right dress,   you know, maybe except for my boots, you know, just because, you know, I was working. And the next morning, I was going nine times out of 10, I I never even went to formation.   I would barely make,   last formation.   Uh-huh. First formation?   Yeah. They tried they were like   I think it was a first sergeant or or of because I was attached to a signal battalion.   Uh-huh. A signal company. And the first sergeant of the of the company was like,   you mechanics have   to be at first formation. I'm tired of none of y'all being there.  

We just look at the platoon sergeant, and he's like, just go to work.   Because, I mean,   we had enough work. We were running.   We would   we'd get up, get dressed, go eat,   and be at work by no later than seven.   And   if we got off at 04:30, that was an early day.  

[02:12:00] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:12:02] Rich Chelson:

Normally, we were working   till 05:30, 06:00, 06:30.   I mean, we were because  

[02:12:09] Unknown:

every vehicle, you know, there's always a mechanical issue with one   or a number of the vehicles. But   with the signal   brigade,   when can they do their job?   When they go to the fucking field, in the field, just like artillery,   just like   infantry,   but not the mechanics   or the great cooks.   Every day, they had shit to do.  

[02:12:37] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   And that's the thing. I mean, we were fixing all the shit they broke from the last field   training,   And then they would break the shit in the motor pool. We'd have to fix it again,   and then we'd get out to the field. That was about the only time   to where I could actually kinda sit back and rest   and not do anything   unless they broke something, which   they regularly broke a three k generator. How some of these guys were allowed to operate a three k generator, I don't know. But they did, and they broke it, so I'd have to fix it.   But Yeah. It   but it wasn't that bad. So field time for me,   shit. I would lay him back eating pogey bait, dude.  



[02:13:21] Unknown:

Yeah.   Because,   you know, I'm sure that their section leaders and platoon sergeants were like, we fucking broke it. Figure out how to fucking fix it.  

[02:13:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. They just come get me   because they knew they knew they knew they knew if they tried to fix it and broke it even more, I was gonna get on there, me and whoever else,   you know,   we were gonna get on their ass.   Just fucking bring it to us.   I mean, they do small stuff,   but it was like   blowing out the filter, you know,   making sure the air air filter, you know, make sure fuel was good.   But   any checking the oil, you better check the oil because I I I was gonna ream your ass on that.   But, yeah, anything after that, they're like,   need you to fix it.  

I'm like, suck it up, dude.  

[02:14:16] Unknown:

What happens is fucking   a mortar shelling hit the motor fucking motor pool and kill all the medics or all the motor pool. What the fuck are they gonna do then?  

[02:14:28] Rich Chelson:

Send up smoke signals because those guys didn't know shit.   I'm serious, man.   It was terrible.  

[02:14:35] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:14:36] Rich Chelson:

It was.   And and and and here's the funny thing about it.   I was not a generator mechanic.   I think we only had one or two generator mechanics   in the whole motor pool.   I was a light wheel mechanic. I was a I I was a truck mechanic, a Humvee mechanic.  

[02:14:55] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:14:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   No.   I was at and a doosanaf mechanic   and a generator mechanic.   And just about any I mean, if it broke,   you know,   it was me or   any one of our our platoon, we had to fix it or send it to third shop, and we didn't send nothing to third shop because they'd keep it for six months.  

[02:15:20] Unknown:

And that was a minimum give me   if it wasn't there for fucking two years.  

[02:15:25] Rich Chelson:

Right? Right?   Like, that dude that that that sucked that rag   right through the air intake and locked the motor up, I don't think we ever saw that truck back.  

[02:15:38] Unknown:

Yeah. Probably not.  

[02:15:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. His fucking   his fucking glow plugs were bad. We knew it. We had them on ordering.   And   he took a rag,   put some gasoline on it because you can ignite a diesel off of gas,   the vapers.   And instead of having someone help him, he just took the air cleaner off, put the rag right on top of the intake.   Crank. Crank. Crank. And when it fired off, it went   it sucked that rag up, ran for about two seconds, and boom. That was it. It was done.   Oh, he got ringed.   And we got reamed   even though we didn't tell him to do   it. He had seen us do it,   so he thought he could do it because when we did it, we always had   someone with us.  

You know?   We didn't lay the rag over the intake.   We held it over the intake   while someone else was cranking the truck.  

[02:16:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:16:39] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. That was   that was a fiasco. We all got reamed on that one.   And then and then the damn signal rats,   stupid sons of bitches, they would have inspections. Right?   So they would take DOTs   well, I'd say I don't think they had DOT three at the time, but they had brake fluid. You know, I think it was DOT two or DOT one.  

[02:17:02] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:17:03] Rich Chelson:

And they would put it on a rag, and they would shine their the sidewalls   because it made the sidewalls shiny.   Shiny.   That was all fine and good till it rotted out the side walls. I was gonna say it was gonna eat the sidewalls a lot, ain't it?   Oh god. And and there was probably oh god.   I don't know. After about the fifth truck we had to change tires on,   oh, man.   Everybody   yeah.   The whole company put a stop to that shit.   It was like I'm like, man.   It's like, man, these damn signal rats.   But that's that's what they did.   Instead of going to the PX and buying a thing of tire shine, this brake fluid?  

No. Yeah. I got brake fluid. Hey. I need some brake fluid with you. Alright, dear. Because, you know, we figured they'd need brake fluid for their, you know, reservoirs.   No. Yeah. That was just shiny tires, dude.   They needed brake fluid to shine the tires with.   Brakes? Who needs brakes?  

[02:18:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Our tires look pretty.  

[02:18:08] Unknown:

Our tire our tires.  

[02:18:11] Rich Chelson:

Right?   So, yeah, it was yeah. It was I tell you what, we, we had some winters.   And then then I got sent to South Korea with the gun bunnies. Oh my god.   They're in a whole breed of themselves.  

[02:18:26] Unknown:

Yes. They are.   Talk Thank god thank god I was on the   other side,   the receiving   side of   the rounds   versus the sending side of the rounds.  

[02:18:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. You yeah. You yeah. You can't   claim being a gun bunny, and that's a good thing because I would give you so much shit.   Like, there's a guy I worked with   when when I was building furniture.   He was in the army, and   he was a gun bunny. Oh my god.   I gave him so much hell.  

[02:19:06] Unknown:

Just because  

[02:19:08] Rich Chelson:

I mean,   I tore him and they went every freaking day   just because he was a damn gun bunny. It's like, you ain't got no common sense, dude.   Oh, yeah.   Oh, yeah. Me and him didn't get along for   at least six months.   Then we finally kinda  

[02:19:26] Unknown:

You used to off each other's backsides?  

[02:19:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Got along kind of you know? But, yeah, the first six months, nah. No. I hated the guy.   He thought he was he was God's gift to everybody, and he was the best woodworker around.   Yeah.   I I was there, like, maybe he was around?   Uh-huh.  

[02:19:48] Unknown:

He was the best what worker around?   Woodworker.  

[02:19:52] Rich Chelson:

Wood oh, woodworker.   Yeah. We were building custom furniture. And, I mean, to me woodworker.   He could build some decent pieces, but   some of his pieces   I showed up and,   you know, I'm like I'm like,   you know, what's this, you know, what's this board supposed to be? And he told me the measurement. I'm like, you're fucking off, dude.   You're an eight inch off. Oh, it'll be fine. And then he'd wind up having   to redo it. You know?   And I kept on him kept on him. I said, dude, if it ain't nuts on, it's fucking wrong.   And, yeah, he oh, man. This this guy hated me because I could walk over to his work   and just pick it apart.  

And he Oh, okay.   He finally got the clue   and and and started building quality pieces,   you know,   and everything.  

[02:20:45] Unknown:

So Oh, but because he was a 13   or 13 bravo in a previous life,   His shit didn't stink.  

[02:20:53] Rich Chelson:

Got it. That's what he thought.   And   I and me being the lovable me that I am,   I showed him his shit did stink.   He didn't like that too much.   But then   then he finally realized that I knew what I was talking about, and, you know, we worked on a couple pieces and everything like that. And, you know, we we had kinda   found a   mutual respect.   Uh-huh. You know?   And he actually got a whole lot better building furniture.   I'm not I'm not saying it was because of me. I'm just saying that   he actually started doing things right, and,   you know, it was you know, his pieces were he built one table   that he didn't use a screw one   and   used,   basically, joints.  

Joints and dowels? Yeah. Joints and dowels, and it was it was solid as a rock. Yep.   I mean, very it was beautiful. I mean, it was beautiful. Didn't use one screw.   So  

[02:22:01] Unknown:

Just like all the Amish   barns   well, houses for that matter too.  

[02:22:08] Rich Chelson:

No. Yep.   Lot of them use screws now.   At least the ones up in Northern Missouri do.  

[02:22:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[02:22:16] Rich Chelson:

I'm just I know up I'm just building farms which I know up there.  

[02:22:21] Unknown:

Yeah. I know the Pennsylvania.   There's   there's joints and valves.   Yeah. Oh, the barns.   Houses may be a little bit different, but on the barns,   the the framing of the barn.   Now the siding?   Well, hell, they're just gonna make their own damn nails.  

[02:22:40] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, the ones up there in Missouri, they   they they buy screws and stuff like that.  

[02:22:48] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:22:49] Rich Chelson:

So,   yeah, I watched them build a few things.   And, yeah, they've got cordless drills and all that stuff.  

[02:22:57] Unknown:

Yep.   That is true.   And the shit will survive   anything.  

[02:23:06] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Well, anything that's built right   by anything, you know, it won't survive.  

[02:23:12] Unknown:

Yep. You know?  

[02:23:14] Rich Chelson:

That's the thing. You have to take your time and build it. Right?  

[02:23:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[02:23:21] Unknown:

Yeah. I'd like to see wants to do that.  

[02:23:24] Rich Chelson:

No. Well, no. Because everyone wants it right now. No one wants to wait for it or pay for it.   Because if you do it right and   because I did a   12 foot four foot by 12 foot conference table,   and the legs were whiskey barrels.   Uh-huh. And,   made the top out of Boulder.   And it took me about a week, week and a half, because I I had to do a lot of sanding on it.   But I think I think that table went for   4,000.   I didn't see the money, but  

[02:23:58] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:23:59] Rich Chelson:

But, I mean, I would I would I would like to know where that table went because   I that thing was solid when I got done with it.   It was beautiful. I loved it.   About that.   Should've should've seen it when when we cut the tops of the,   whiskey barrels off.   The whole shop stopped, ran over, and had their heads in the whiskey barrels because you could still smell the whiskey that was in the barrels.   Oh.   We we were off,   you know, getting a good shot of that thing.   Oh, yeah. It was yeah. I almost said to charge a mission.   You know? It's like, hey. I wanna shot $10, man.  

These guys probably would have paid it too.   But   yeah, and then and then the tiles we cut off, I made floating shelves.   Yeah. I it I mean, those   three pieces turned out, you know, really good. I was surprised.   Yeah. I enjoyed that.   Made a waterfall butcher block   countertop   for a house.   That was fun.   That was a lot of gluing.  

[02:25:11] Unknown:

I bet.   A lot of clamping.  

[02:25:14] Rich Chelson:

Yep. That was   and then and then the and   then where where the counter come across and then the piece coming down   the side   had to be cut at a 45 degree angle,   and it had to be precise.   So you didn't see any joint at all. It looked like it would it just folded that way.   Oh my god. That was that was a pain in the ass to cut.  

[02:25:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:25:42] Rich Chelson:

But we got it.   Then it then it because it had a sink in it. We had to cut it out for the sink and   install it. I mean, it it looked really beautiful   when we got it installed in the house.  

[02:25:55] Bryan Goodwin:

But it did.   They did.  

[02:25:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. I built a few things that   I was proud of.  

[02:26:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. There's   that's that's something I've always wanted to do is be able to work with wood, but I kinda have to have have some, tools to be able to do that.  

[02:26:17] Rich Chelson:

And I don't have  

[02:26:18] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't have any power tools to be able to do that. So  

[02:26:21] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean, you can use a handsaw.  

[02:26:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I've tried using handsaws.   There's a trick. The the yeah. I know there's a trick, but I and I don't know that trick because   I can use even a straight back   straight back saw, and I still would wind up   having a wave   in that damn thing.  

[02:26:44] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   I it's same here.   Same here. It's weird using that using just that back and forth hand saw.   I can't cut a straight line to save my life. I could straighten it out. Nope.  

[02:26:58] Bryan Goodwin:

And I will measure five times and be still wind up being an inch and a half short   every damn time.  

[02:27:07] Rich Chelson:

You know, I could see maybe an eighth or a quarter, but damn, dude. No. It's like inch and a I mean, I will measure it up. Alright.  

[02:27:15] Bryan Goodwin:

12 inches.   12 inches. 12 inches. 12 inches. Yeah. 12 make sure. Yeah. We got 12 inches over here.   Got it.   Nine and a half. K. Nine and a half inches. How does that do that?  

[02:27:30] Rich Chelson:

That's funny.   I've done that a few time   few times miscut,   you know, just normally by an inch or two, but, you know, at the most   because I just I just looked at the tape wrong is what it was.  

[02:27:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, a lot of times I mean, most of the time, I know what I did is I would I'd wind up cutting on the wrong side of the line.   And so it's just, you know, just   a a blade with   too short or too long.  

[02:27:59] Unknown:

Yeah. Yep.  

[02:28:00] Rich Chelson:

And and see, that's the thing. That is that is one thing that   that I had to learn because I didn't know it when I first started getting into construction or anything like that. It hadn't been taught, and I didn't know it. But but when you measure it, that blade you cut with is an eighth inch.   You have to factor that in. Because if you don't,   you're gonna wind up e either being a sixteenth or an eighth off depending on where you cut. You go right down the middle of the line or not. Yeah. If you but, see, normally, I go on the outside of the line   because, you see, you also have to look at the pencil you're using because the pencil you're using normally is an eighth inch as well.  

So your line, when you draw it on on your measurement,   that's an eight inch eighth inch   thick line if the pencil's sharpened. If it's not,   then it's up to a quarter inch.   Right. Three sixteenths. And you have to take that into account when you cut because if you don't, you'll wind up being short.   Yep. I   I I learned a hell of a lot doing that, you know. Okay. It's it's like   and it it's just like, you know, I I never thought about it. You know, I just mark, you know, and measure, mark, cut. I'm good.   Right. Do it again.   Oh, cut another piece.  

Yeah.  

[02:29:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat.  

[02:29:28] Rich Chelson:

And then, like like, using a chisel,   you know, I always   thought you you, like, uh-oh.   We lost dude. Dude went bye bye. His phone just said, fuck you. I'm out.  

[02:29:41] Bryan Goodwin:

But, like Oh, hell. We only got 15 left anyhow. So  

[02:29:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But, yeah, like, no,   like using a chisel.   You know,   you you have the bevel side on one side and and you have a flat side. Right? Mhmm. Well, I thought   you lay it on the flat side, you get a flat cut.  

[02:30:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Wrong answer. Not necessarily.  

[02:30:02] Rich Chelson:

No. You don't.   You flip it on the beveled side, and you can get   a straight flat cut.   Took me the longest time to figure that out.  

[02:30:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Depending on how you do it, you might you'll wind up digging into the wood a lot more than   than you want to. Yeah. Exactly.  

[02:30:20] Rich Chelson:

Exactly. And that's why and and   yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It took me a freaking quite a while to   figure that out, but I got it figured out. And it's it's it's still weird to me. You know? Yeah.   But I know that,   you know, I need   to flip it over.  

[02:30:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[02:30:40] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, they're just yeah. There's you know, when I built custom furniture, I I learned a few tricks that,   you know, actually,   actually has helped.   So   so Brian must be talking to somebody   or making noise.   Maybe he's peeing. Are you peeing, Brian?  

[02:30:59] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I'm not. I'm actually made it over to Taco Bell, so I'm fixing to order.  

[02:31:03] Rich Chelson:

Hold on. I didn't know. I I just saw I just saw the, mic muted, so I figured   I'd figured I'd,   you know, give you some crap on that   just because.   So so, Brian, you're eating Taco Bell.   Hey.   Order me a chalupa.   That actually kinda sounds good.  

[02:31:27] Bryan Goodwin:

How do they make them? How do they make chalupas?  

[02:31:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:31:31] Bryan Goodwin:

I guess they get chalupa shell, and then they   they slap together with, throw the meat and the cheese and the  

[02:31:40] Rich Chelson:

and everything else in there. And you know, that's the thing, though. Taco Bell used to use shredded cheese on everything,   then they went to that nacho cheese sauce. Pissed me off.  

[02:31:51] Bryan Goodwin:

I've I've always had just   shredded cheese.  

[02:31:55] Rich Chelson:

On tacos, yes. But if you look   at any of the other stuff  

[02:32:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Dude. Ding dong. You're back.   I'm back.  

[02:32:05] Rich Chelson:

What happened? Your phone said fuck you?  

[02:32:09] Unknown:

No. Press the wrong button.  

[02:32:12] Rich Chelson:

Oh, oh, so so so it's operator error this time. It's not the phone. It was operator error.  

[02:32:19] Unknown:

Yeah. I was trying to mute myself for a second.  

[02:32:22] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[02:32:23] Bryan Goodwin:

See, he's the one that needs to go pee. Oh,  

[02:32:26] Rich Chelson:

there okay. They see. I knew I knew someone had to do it. I just since dude dropped off, and Brian muted his mic. I I thought Brian had to go pee. You know? You   see, dude, when when you dropped off, I just thought it was your phone saying, yeah. We got fifteen minutes. I'm out. See you.  

[02:32:46] Unknown:

No. I did. I was trying to get the microphone, and I hit the, back button for the,   for Zoom, and it kicked me out.  

[02:32:55] Rich Chelson:

It damn sure did. It dropped you like a hot potato.  

[02:32:59] Unknown:

See? So this is why   I don't fucking push buttons.  

[02:33:06] Rich Chelson:

But but   that bad. I can't talk. Pushing buttons is fun, though.  

[02:33:11] Bryan Goodwin:

It is. It's awful. Yeah. It's awful fun. For sure. For sure.   Buttons and switches. Oh, I love Oh, yeah.  

[02:33:18] Rich Chelson:

I I mean, I I I mean, I loved when I drove, I loved my Pete's   because   I had the Pete's with all the switches.   You know?   I mean, I had the, like, five rows of nothing but toggle switches. Oh my god. Every night, when I'm turning on my chicken lights and headlights and everything,   I'm sitting there flipping   one whole row and then on another row, and I just I'm just like, fuck. Yeah.   Got a freaking hard on because I flipped all them switches. And then it was good.   Yeah. Times. Good times, man.  

[02:33:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely.   So but, anyhow so yeah. Yep. We've got ourselves about ten minutes left, so it's about time to go ahead and land this big old bird   and say,   hello. Welcome, and thank you all very much for actually taking the time to hear what the   world three vets are,   have are talking about, and what are we complaining about, what are we what do we have to say about what's going on in the world.   And   today was just one of those where we, you know, we had some had some thoughts about,   about some of the more current events that were going on, and we had   a   a a great time doing it. This is one of those   this is one of the times that I look forward to in the week is our our Thursday night calls because   we don't know what the heck we're gonna be talking about, but we know we're gonna be talking about something. And we're gonna probably have something that is said that's gonna be, you know, off the wall, and and everyone's gonna be sitting there shaking their head.  

But one of the great things about this show is that we do not do commercials. If you notice,   done three hours, and we've just been   talking. We didn't interrupt for a, for type of toothpaste or   interrupt for a,   for a razors   or or a mattress or anything like that. We   didn't do any type of interruption because we don't   do commercial. Commercials are and sponsors   are just a form of censorship,   because we can't say something if, you know, if it's gonna embarrass the,   our our sponsors. So   we decided   off bat we weren't gonna do   sponsors, but we do   have to, you know, find ways of being able to pay for the hosting and things like that. And so   we have gone with the value for value system.  

And the value for value is a lot different than   any other type of of system out there because   there are   three keys to to the value for value. There's time, talent, and treasure.   You have your your   the amount of time that you're putting into   into your   end of your day, and time is money. We've all heard that, that phrase. Time is money. And so we   one of the one of the things that you can actually do is donate your time.   Maybe you are wanting to   to do   the chapter art, you know, be able to set up the chapters. As you heard, well, there's 49 chapters here. Well, do we really need 49 chapters, or can we do 25?   And that's all you know, that would be something that you could actually do. You could decide, you know what? We don't need 49. We've got 25 breaks it down pretty good because our our little offshoots are all part of the same same story,   overarching story that we've been been talking about for the past, you know, twenty minutes.  

And so   maybe that's what you'd like to be able to do. Maybe you'd like to be able to help out with, with doing chapters or making sure that   our our   transcript is is accurate.   These are things that, time wise, you're able to do.   Or you can do talent. Maybe you're good with the graphic design,   and you can,   contribute your time and create   a   different types of   chapter art, do or or episodic art if you want to, you know, and we could take the episodic art.   And everybody   throws their stuff into a a pool, and we'll you know, three guys could go through and decide this is what we're gonna use for our episodic art, and the rest would end up becoming   the the chapter art. But you were able to   make that decision. You're able to design   the, the art. I almost tried to put my foot through the floorboard. I'm used to driving a standard   semi truck now. So   but it's but then there's also   the treasure. This is where if you wanted to be able to help us out,   pay for by helping us pay for our our hosting fees or   or donate to the show in some other form and support us in that way, you can do so. We have a lot of the podcasting two point o, the modern podcasting apps that we use, which you can get over at podcastapps.com,   you can actually   hit the button that says support this show, and that will actually pop up   a page that takes you to our PayPal site. And there you can actually donate   how much you think we're worth. If we did we make you laugh?  

Great. Well, what do you think that laugh is is worth? If we made you think, made you angry,   what do you think that's worth?   You can also help us out by just helping expand and spread the word about the show. So share the sharing us out onto, Facebook, Twitter,   Instagram, sharing us out with your best friend, worst enemy.   Doesn't matter. You can share us out, share the show out, share the,   the episode out, and just let people hear   what we're what we're talking about, and you can just   contribute in that fashion.   So there's a lot of different ways that you can help. You a lot of different ways that you can contribute to the show. Another way you could contribute is by   shooting us an email and asking us a question, giving us your 2¢ of what you think a   a a   a story that we've talked about is. Maybe we got something completely wrong and you wanna, instead of yelling at the at the radio, why don't you go ahead and just shoot an email over to us going, hey. You're a freaking bonehead. No. You know?  

It it's not,   it's not this. It's that. And you shouldn't and you should be having this right. And   tell us why it we're right or wrong.   And and help us out in in that fashion because we would love to have a conversation with you, and we can do so through through email. We'll talk about the what you've said. We'll read your email out on the show, and and we'll talk about   it amongst ourselves. And, you know, if you wanna wanna continue to contribute, you can continue to to   to shoot the emails over to us, and you can do an email over to me. That's circle cast, that's c I r c l e c a s t,   circle cast at g mail, or you can get ahold of rich at [email protected],   and that's Chelson is c h e l s o n.  

And if you wanna get ahold of the dude, just send either me or rich a a email because   nobody   know dude's email address.   So it's just easier to just send it over to us.   So with that, I'd like to go ahead and give, say thank y'all for listening. And, Rich, what do you have to say?  

[02:41:10] Rich Chelson:

Oh, not too much. Just,   shit. You covered my all of them. But, you know, on the 49 chapters, it it didn't make the podcast any longer. It just it just it just gave more it it's   basically, the 49 chapters is for people with a ADHD.   So, you know, they're short segments, and so the the, chapter art will flash by. So it gives them something to look at, you know, before they scroll off like I do. You know? So, you know, hey. It's good. That's why I left it. But either way, no. I just wanna thank everybody for listening. And, yes, like like Brian said, yeah, we we,   yeah, we talk about many subjects in one night.  

And sometimes   and and there's been times when when we've   hung on to just a couple subjects, but, no, normally, we go through,   you know, about that about that many topics or more. But either way, you know, as Brian said, you know, if you wanna help out, send us an email. Give us your thoughts, your your concerns.   You know?   Tell us we're we're goofballs.   You know? We don't care. You know?   We'll even read your email on the on the show and give you an answer. You know? This is why. And it'll like, Brian said, dude's email.   Yeah. That's   I don't think that dude can even remember his email. He just has it programmed in his phone. It pops up. He don't even have to type it in. It just fills in for him. So   but no. Share this out with your friends, your family, your loved ones. Hell, share it with people you hate.  

You know?   You know, like, you you know, like, some of the commercials say, you know, you know, if you get hungry, eat a Snickers. You know?   Oh, give them our show.   You know? Let them   let them not be angry or let them get angrier and then just run.  

[02:43:01] Unknown:

Right. Play and whatever.  

[02:43:03] Rich Chelson:

You know? Do whatever you gotta do, but, by god, tell people about our show, damn it.   I mean, I love to download numbers, but still, I want more. I want more.   You know? That's all we want. But either way, yeah, send you can send Brian an email, [email protected],   or send me an email, [email protected].   And, yeah,   if you wanna talk to the dude and his infinite wisdom,   send me or Brian email, and we will make sure dude   imparts his empirical   wisdom on you. So other than that, that's about all I got. So, dude, what you got?  

[02:43:42] Unknown:

Oh, I got hemorrhoid.   No. I'm not hemorrhoid. Oh, wow. Okay. I'm not hemorrhoids.   I am, yeah, hemorrhoids because I irritate assholes.  

[02:43:56] Rich Chelson:

Please send us your email for the dude.  

[02:44:00] Unknown:

That's fine.   So, again,   as usual, we jump from,   oh, I don't know, war to soccer to   political to wars to   yeah. We'll probably have, what, another   what do you think, guys? Another   fourteen, nineteen chapter day   I don't know. Or episode? Well, we'll see about that. So and for everybody   everybody listening, as usual, great to have you here,   and happy to   have you listening to our ever coming   ramblings about this, that, the other thing   times three.   And I hope you enjoy the show, and please let friends, enemies,   and   ex command   come in   yeah. Ex   companions.  

That's the word I'm looking for.   Just let them know that we're here and ask them to come listen to us.  

[02:45:04] Bryan Goodwin:

There we go.   So Well,   Rich,   Ron,   glad that,   was able to get ahold of y'all and sit and have another great and wonderful   and can't wait to be able to see what, what we're talking about next week. So, guys, I wanna say thank y'all again for coming on the show,   and we'll,   we'll talk to y'all next week. So till then, y'all take care. We'll get you then.   So bye.   Later.  

[02:45:39] Unknown:

Peace out.  

[02:45:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright, guys. Catch y'all later. See you. Have a good night. Take care. Bye. Bye bye.