In this episode of "Two Grumpy Vets," Bryan, Rich, and the Dude gather for another lively discussion filled with humor, camaraderie, and a touch of nostalgia. The trio kicks off with a light-hearted conversation about the trials of windshield replacements and the challenges of driving with cracked glass. They reminisce about the days of sand-pitted truck windshields and the struggles of maintaining clear visibility on the road. The conversation takes a humorous turn as they discuss the quirks of truck stop restrooms and the peculiar habits of fellow travelers.
The episode also delves into more serious topics, including the ethics of insider trading, the complexities of human and divine laws, and the challenges of maintaining mental health in isolated environments, as highlighted by a recent incident at an Antarctic research base. The hosts share their thoughts on the state of the world, the influence of technology, and the importance of living life intentionally. With a mix of laughter, insightful commentary, and personal anecdotes, "Two Grumpy Vets" offers listeners a chance to reflect on life's peculiarities and the value of friendship.
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Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
Mister Brian. Hello.
[00:00:36] Duuude-Ron :
And how are you?
[00:00:37] Rich Chelson:
Not too bad. How are you doing?
[00:00:39] Duuude-Ron :
Doing good. Just almost, almost over to, where I'm stopping for the night. So Okay. Had to get a had to get a windshield, changed because I had, had a couple rock chips and that the the hard cold that we had all last month that actually caused the, caused the the crack to go all the way across the, the windshield. So
[00:01:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's a bummer. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:01:09] Duuude-Ron :
I was like, yeah. We don't really need to get our sole ticket on that. So so get that changed.
[00:01:15] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Well, that's good. That's good. It'll, like, you know, at least he, you know, didn't make you go on with it.
[00:01:23] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. So
[00:01:26] Rich Chelson:
And I bet having a new glass
[00:01:29] Bryan Goodwin:
makes it, nicer to see again. Oh, yeah. Don't have the sun glinting off the crack into my eye. I'm like, ugh.
[00:01:36] Rich Chelson:
So Yeah. That was yeah. I was saying when I drove, a lot of the trucks I drove, they were sand pitted.
[00:01:44] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, gotcha.
[00:01:45] Rich Chelson:
That was just driving through dust, you know, windstorms, and it just it wreaks havoc on a big truck windshield. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. Back in the day, trying to get a windshield, you know, man. I could get a set of a drive tires a lot easier than I could get a windshield. I mean yeah. It yeah. I've made trying to drive in, you know, in the rising or setting sun a challenge.
[00:02:20] Duuude-Ron :
They do. Yeah. I've had, especially with, trucks for, for sandstone when I drive down late.
[00:02:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Those,
[00:02:29] Duuude-Ron :
those those windshields would be so sand pitted and and stuff. The sun had hit it just right. Yeah. It was just like, yep. Okay. We're taking a head out the window because that's the only way I'm seeing.
[00:02:41] Unknown:
That's
[00:02:42] Rich Chelson:
right. Right. And, yeah, especially, you know, out there in the oil fields and stuff like that. I mean, windshields are are your most vital piece of equipment, really. Oh, yeah. You know? But yeah. No. It was, yeah, it was always like pulling teeth. And anytime I ever got a new windshield, oh my god. It was great. And and you see, that's the thing. I drove Pete's. So Pete's the older Pete's had the dual windshield. It didn't have a single. And so
[00:03:19] Duuude-Ron :
they have rubber out of the top of the of the windshield, pull that one out, and set another one in.
[00:03:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but you see, they would only wanna change one side.
[00:03:28] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:03:29] Rich Chelson:
It's like, no. No. Because the right side, when that sun is at an angle to you, oh my god. Like a fucking magnifying glass burning your retinas.
[00:03:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:03:44] Rich Chelson:
You know? It's like, no. Change both of them. God has too much money. Oh my god. I'm gonna go fucking broke. Change of fucking both of them.
[00:03:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I gotta my friend John, he he talks about he has talked a couple of times. He's got had a, guy that, he, he actually kept he would go to the go to the junkyard and go to the and and go pull out, good windshields out of, out of wrecked peaks and stuff. And he would've he had, like, five, six, seven of them sitting there, stored away. And so if something happened to one of his windshields, he would just okay. He'd whip that rubber out, pop that one, that old, window out, put a new one in. And he said he'd be in fifteen minutes. He'd be, he'd be have a new window in a newer window.
[00:04:38] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. You know, I mean I mean, you know me. I'm I'm cheap anyway. You know? I mean, you know, when when I was, you know, younger, I god. I was you know, I could squeeze a fucking penny and get change. But, you know, but, you know, back in the day, it's like, you know, the prices that, that, we paid back in the day versus the money that was being made, people were stingy. Really stingy. Because I mean I mean, shoot. You know, if well, as a driver, you know, I was steadily bringing home $1,200 a week. That was my pay at at 25¢ a mile.
Okay? How much money was that truck making? It was making an ass load, dude, because that was back when freight was, actually, paying a pretty good price. But, yeah, all these all these trucking companies, you know, acted like, oh my god. You were taking money out of their baby's mouths. You know? Did you fall asleep on me? Okay. I know I didn't do anything. Oh, we lost Brian. We got started and was talking, and he's back.
[00:06:31] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I get heck. I didn't realize I had that many dead spots between Blair and, and Alphys. I'm probably drop you again down to one bar again.
[00:06:41] Rich Chelson:
Well, it was, yeah, it was funny. It was I was sitting there talking. I didn't hear anything, and I can still see you. And I'm like, Brian, did we lose you? I didn't hear no answer. And then all of a sudden, you dropped out. I said, yeah. I guess we did.
[00:06:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Well, I was the same way. I was, like, talking way about blah blah, and I didn't hear any reply. I was like, nope. Did I lose you? And about that time, I looked down and started connecting. He's like, no. You lost me.
[00:07:10] Rich Chelson:
So Yeah. I was gonna say now we're back at the two bars. Yeah. I was gonna say, I'm at home. I shouldn't lose you. You know? I mean, I'm not saying that it can't happen.
[00:07:26] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:07:26] Rich Chelson:
You know? But, yeah, it's it's it's highly unlikely.
[00:07:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. For whatever reason, boy, we've got a I've I've got an issue at the house where, if we're talking on the phone, I will get cellular Chinese, to somebody every almost every time I talk to them. And then yada yada yada yada. And all of a sudden, they're like, yeah. I didn't understand any of that. You you, you were letting out. Okay. Which services? Verizon.
[00:07:59] Rich Chelson:
It could be something with the tower because I noticed when I lived up in Northern Missouri, that would happen, often Oh, yeah. You know? It would just it would just all of a sudden, you know, either I wouldn't hear what the other person was saying or they couldn't hear what I was saying. Yeah. You know? But, I mean, since I've been down here, I haven't had no problems.
[00:08:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And I've you know, I've thought, okay. Well, it could be let's go ahead and let's make sure we do, call over Wi Fi. That way, we can do some voice over IP. And I would hook that up and and get that all going, and still, nope. It would be talking all of a sudden. It'd go go say you're in Chinese. And I'm like, alright. So, like, when I'm talking to my wife, I've gotten around to where I just turn on, just do FaceTime because that way it goes, full it goes to, it's gonna be over the best, yeah, Internet connection that it has. Yeah.
And so, yeah, we can talk just fine that way. I mean, we'll be driving down the road and talking with her and and stuff, so she'll see me bouncing all over the place in the truck. But
[00:09:10] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:09:13] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I mean I mean, she's seen you bounce before. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. I bounced off and bounced off the door facings and everything else. So
[00:09:23] Unknown:
That would hurt.
[00:09:25] Duuude-Ron :
I do it all the time. I'll go of course, it also, doesn't help that I've got, whenever I try to go through a door, I've got two of the dogs inside. Oh, hey. Let's all go through it at the same time. So Right. Right. So, yeah, I bounce off doors, door facings. Sometimes I don't get my big feet out of the way and bounce, you know, bounce door off my off my toe. So, yeah, I'm I do a lot of a lot of bouncing.
[00:09:55] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wow. You know? That that I'm glad I don't bounce like that. Yeah.
[00:10:04] Duuude-Ron :
But Long as it doesn't leave a mark, I'm okay. Well, what happens if it leaves a mark? Well, I'm gonna have to sit there and cry about it because I'm gonna It's it's.
[00:10:22] Rich Chelson:
Is what? It's. Right. Right. No.
[00:10:31] Duuude-Ron :
Anyhow, so what's been happening in your world?
[00:10:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, not too much. I did I did, go and do, POTA the other day. Okay. So that was a lot of fun. Tried out another antenna I I made.
[00:10:54] Unknown:
So It works pretty good for you?
[00:10:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. It it it it it it actually worked, fairly well. I saw it. Well, it was it's it's another random wire, but it's shorter, right, than than the one that I've got up in my backyard.
[00:11:16] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[00:11:17] Rich Chelson:
And, yeah, I ran it. And, I gotta say, I I actually did, pretty good. Got some good reports. Even made even made a contact on 20 meters to another ham in Northern Mississippi. Oh, there you go. Which and and and you see, that's the thing. That's rare. That's very rare, you know, because it's, you know, such a short
[00:11:46] Duuude-Ron :
hop. Yeah. Where I'm at? Short bounce. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:11:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but yeah. No. It was it was actually cool because when I heard it and he, and and I had seen the call before because he's a contester because he's been in some of the same contests that that, you know, I've been in. Right. And and this man I mean, by numbers, I could never keep up with him.
[00:12:17] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, is he one of those that just got it down to a science?
[00:12:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. And I you know, that's fine. You know? I don't care, but, you know, it's just, you know, it's just the fact that I heard his call. And when when I found out he was in Mississippi, I was like I was like, that's that's freaking crazy, especially during the day, middle of the day on 20 meters. You know? It's like, no. That's technically, that's not supposed to work, but it did. You know?
[00:12:47] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Just have me hitting it just right.
[00:12:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean I mean, I'm I'm I must have been holding my mouse right or something. Something. Yeah. But, yeah, I did I did that, and, I just, you know, kinda worked on my, ham radio station today. Made some changes and stuff and and just been, I don't know, just been oh, I mowed my lawn. I mowed my lawn, yesterday. Well, I didn't get all of it mowed. I mowed as much as I could because my ground is still so wet. I now have ruts in my backyard. And and I've got, I would say, probably a good 35 by 60 foot rectangle that I can't mow yet because I still have standing water back there.
[00:13:51] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, you could tile your yard.
[00:13:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But and and I've been thinking about that, but trying to figure out where I'm gonna outlet it at because I've got I've got no other I've got I've got no place to, outlet it at, and that part of the backyard actually sits lower than the rest of the yard. So so I you you don't know. No. I've I've thought about tiling it. Okay? I really have. But I'm just
[00:14:30] Duuude-Ron :
the the the law of physics is just not there right now. With you. It's just not in your corner today. It's not. I'm dead right now. So how'd you, how'd you fare against all the weather? We didn't get none. You didn't get nothing even though you had had had watches going?
[00:14:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. We had watches and shit. But
[00:14:53] Duuude-Ron :
No excitement whatsoever,
[00:14:54] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. About, three quarters of of an inch of rain, which swamped my yard again. Right. That was it. That was it out of out of all that stuff. So, yeah, I mean, I was I was actually kinda shocked because, yeah, they was calling for, you know, tornado, high winds, all this stuff. Uh-uh.
[00:15:22] Duuude-Ron :
No. We didn't. Yeah. Oh, that was just a blatant run of the red light there, buddy.
[00:15:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But he was in a hurry.
[00:15:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. He thought I think he thought he could sneak behind the behind that, semi truck that was, that was halfway through the the turn when it changed. So Oh, okay. Which is, not smart considering the police station was right beside him.
[00:15:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:15:52] Duuude-Ron :
But some people are some people are braver than I am. I'm just a chicken.
[00:15:56] Rich Chelson:
Hey. I'd be a chicken too because that would cost me money. Yeah. It would.
[00:16:02] Duuude-Ron :
I always eat a lot of money.
[00:16:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, yeah, other than that is yeah. As far as the weather, we really ain't had nothing to really talk about. Well So
[00:16:23] Duuude-Ron :
k. And mister mister dude showed up. So how are you holding up today, sir?
[00:16:30] Unknown:
What's what's going on, you, rainbow colored mohawk unicorn?
[00:16:38] Rich Chelson:
Rainbow colored mohawk unicorn.
[00:16:43] Duuude-Ron :
At least we're slightly punkish.
[00:16:47] Unknown:
There you go.
[00:16:49] Duuude-Ron :
So John, listen to any, any punk rock music? No. Good punk rock music of eighties?
[00:16:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Do, Devo?
[00:17:00] Duuude-Ron :
No. That would've been considered punk rock, but okay.
[00:17:04] Unknown:
Okay. So what do you consider punk rock of the AEs?
[00:17:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Dead Kennedys,
[00:17:12] Duuude-Ron :
Sex Pistols? Nope. Groups like that?
[00:17:16] Unknown:
Yeah. No. No. Thank you.
[00:17:19] Duuude-Ron :
No holiday in Cambodia?
[00:17:23] Unknown:
Holiday in Cambodia? No. No. No. So, you know, Rich, I have a suggestion for you on your yard. Get a squeegee get a squeegee and start pushing it, you know, out onto the street or you know? Yeah. But just squeegee your lawn and get rid of the water.
[00:17:47] Rich Chelson:
All the way from the backyard? That wouldn't
[00:17:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Are you getting exercise?
[00:17:53] Unknown:
That would definitely get you some exercise.
[00:17:56] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. That would find Or instead of using for a week.
[00:18:01] Unknown:
Instead of well, instead of using a squeegee, just get a square, you know, shovel and start just, you know, picking it up and throw it in in different areas in the yard. Water the grass.
[00:18:13] Duuude-Ron :
Water the grass. My manual.
[00:18:15] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Okay. What what I forgot to mention is that even though I've got water standing in this back section of my yard, the rest of my yard, when I walk across it I mean, it it might not be as bad today. But but when I was mowing, I was still squishing water up Yeah. I when I was mowing in my backyard.
[00:18:39] Duuude-Ron :
Man, that's that is some sandy soil right there.
[00:18:44] Rich Chelson:
My ground is so freaking saturated right now. It is on fucking real.
[00:18:53] Duuude-Ron :
I wonder if it would work if you were to take and have, like, a, make a hole in the low area and make it low enough for a for a sump pump, but also have some holes in there so the groundwater kinda is naturally drawn to the to the to the cavity there. And then just sump pump, you know, water up and out and water your front yard trees or whatever.
[00:19:24] Rich Chelson:
You know, I I just I hadn't thought about. You know?
[00:19:31] Unknown:
Or you can just, sump it out and use it for drinking water into your water bill. Your water bill wants to be so big.
[00:19:41] Rich Chelson:
Oh, the water bill, I'm not worried about. It's my freaking electric bill. I mean, man, this month is doing so far, this month is, is, doing so well. Is I mean, is honestly, it's, doing good. So
[00:20:00] Unknown:
well, that's good.
[00:20:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know. I don't know. I was much aware. So, yeah, I I I've been sitting, sitting right at, peak temperature, haven't you?
[00:20:12] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean peak temperature? Well,
[00:20:14] Duuude-Ron :
June, it's, Goldilocks temperature. It's not too hot. It's not too cold. It's just right.
[00:20:22] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well well, it's supposed to be cold tonight, but, I mean, that's fine. Oh, y'all gotta hear this. Apparently, last night, right, after we jumped off the call, I I I was watching TV, took my pills because I I was late taking my pills. And so I took my pills, and it was getting late. And I went outside and smoked cigarette. Right? Came in. It's like, okay. I'm done. And, shut the door, locked it, and, stayed up for a little longer, and then said, okay. I'm going to bed. Went to bed, passed the fuck out. Woke up this morning. Oh my god.
I was freezing my ass off. I freaking get up. My front door is wide the fuck open. Uh-oh. I was like, what the fuck? I walked over and checked. It was locked.
[00:21:21] Duuude-Ron :
I just didn't get it closed open. Oh, you just didn't get a latch. Oh, okay. Yeah.
[00:21:26] Rich Chelson:
I mean, no. No. Not and and I don't know how long it had been like that, you know, because I mean I mean, the winds were picked up this morning. I mean, the winds have been blowing like hell all day. But, yeah, the wind the wind freaking blew my door open. Yeah. The, yeah, the handle was locked, but that door was wide the hell open. Oh, wow. I'm like, wow. That's no wonder why it's chilly. So I I closed it, and I'm like, okay. Well, we're good. But, yeah, nothing was charged. I mean, I live in a very quiet neighborhood.
[00:22:06] Duuude-Ron :
So Right.
[00:22:10] Rich Chelson:
So it's it's I mean, yeah, I mean, we have cops running up and down the road all the time. So I don't worry too much about what what happens in my neighborhood.
[00:22:25] Unknown:
Now, however, did you lock the did you lock the screen door as well?
[00:22:30] Rich Chelson:
I don't I don't have a screen door.
[00:22:34] Unknown:
That was just being facetious.
[00:22:38] Duuude-Ron :
What Well, you know, what if you're trying to
[00:22:42] Unknown:
What what is the use of a lock on a screen door?
[00:22:47] Duuude-Ron :
To keep it from blowing open? That's about it. Maybe. And Yeah. I mean, that's why we had of course, we had a we had storm doors. So, I mean, it was it's like a screen door except it, it was it all it was it had desktop technology, which, I mean, I don't know what that's supposed to mean other than I probably really need it at my house. But, but it, it was, kinda like a screen door, but not a screen door because there was just a little strip of screen that,
[00:23:20] Unknown:
got kind of the middle of the of the door. Yeah. We we had the same thing. You had a metal bottom. You had a window that you could break that you could slide up. Slide up. Yeah. Yep. And that had the screen, and the third top portion
[00:23:38] Duuude-Ron :
was a pane of glass. Pane of glass. Yeah. And, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And, yeah, it it worked good. I mean, you weren't gonna not an actual screen door that, you know, like grandma has that you're not supposed to slam. You know? And I've never known any of those to have a to have a, have a lock on them. I mean, they just usually just have a handle, a little hook to keep the wind from blowing them open. But and maybe y'all young old enough to know what I that reference was would too about grandma didn't want you to slam the screen door. Kids these days don't understand that because they really don't do screen doors anymore.
So No.
[00:24:22] Unknown:
No. I'm kinda lost at that reference.
[00:24:25] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, that's what everybody would holler. You know? You go outside as a little kid, you'd you would open the door. Well, she'd have the front door open, and this the screen door was there just so that, you know, got a little breeze balling through. But as a kid, you'd go and you'd run and pass through that screen door, go outside, and you'd hear always hear grandma go, don't slam the screen door.
[00:24:48] Rich Chelson:
Nope. I've heard that many times. Many times. Oh, yeah.
[00:24:55] Duuude-Ron :
I don't need to not slam the screen door as the screen door slammed. And and you see back in the day, they had the wooden screen doors. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My mom still her house still has a wooden screen door.
[00:25:08] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:25:10] Unknown:
You know? And I don't remember that as a kid, but, of course, hell, I don't remember what the hell I had for dinner last night either.
[00:25:22] Rich Chelson:
I remember the wooden screen doors. In fact, over here at these little apartments right next door to me, oh, Ray. He's the loudest guy over there. He's a cool guy, but, he he has one of them wooden screen doors on the front of his little apartment. Oh, really? And, yeah, when, when he walks out, he just walks out and it slams shut, and it there's that sound of a wooden screen door is just takes you back. Every time I hear it, it it takes you back.
[00:26:04] Duuude-Ron :
Absolutely.
[00:26:06] Rich Chelson:
You know? And and sometimes I hear it, you know, ten, fifteen times a day. And and every time, it's just I think back to, you know, back in the day.
[00:26:19] Duuude-Ron :
Ben yelled at, don't slam a clear door.
[00:26:22] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:26:25] Unknown:
So that must've been one of those that had when you opened it, it had a spring to bring it back closed. Right? Yep. Mhmm. Okay.
[00:26:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, god. Yeah. Because you couldn't let the flies or the Skeeters in. Oh, hell no. You you would really get get your ass busted for that.
[00:26:46] Unknown:
Nope. Can't say that I remember a full screen wooden framed door on any of any of the houses that I ever lived in or relatives. But we did have the the screen doors or the, the one that I just described. I had those on my house. But, of course, we had one of those, hydraulic plungers that would bring back the door and shut it. Yeah.
[00:27:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That, yeah, that was on the, metal doors.
[00:27:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's what we had.
[00:27:23] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And that's I mean I mean, that's that's normal, you know you know, especially if people had them, metal doors and everything. But, yeah, I was raised up where everybody had a wooden screen door.
[00:27:42] Unknown:
So
[00:27:44] Rich Chelson:
oh, yeah. That was I mean, shoot. Grandma and grandpa had one. Mom and dad had one. And, I mean, every house we lived in when I was a kid, we we had a screen door, a wooden screen door.
[00:27:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:27:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I think all of my relatives had the, the one that I described, if I remember correctly.
[00:28:08] Rich Chelson:
The metal one?
[00:28:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. That's what everybody in my family had.
[00:28:15] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. I mean, we was just raised on them, and don't you dare tear that that that screen. Oh my god. You thought that screen was was, you know, like, spending a half a million dollars.
[00:28:32] Unknown:
Or, yeah, or trying we're trying to remake it out of a gold thread, pure gold thread.
[00:28:39] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. It's like, oh my god. It's a screen. You can go to hardware store and get a whole roll for $2. It's not that cheap anymore. But
[00:28:50] Unknown:
Well, $2 back then. Well, well, shit. $2 back then was fucking expensive.
[00:28:56] Rich Chelson:
Right. But still, you know, I mean I mean, dude, I could collect 20 pop bottles and get $2.
[00:29:08] Unknown:
Well yeah.
[00:29:10] Rich Chelson:
So, you know, I I was like I was like, what's the big deal? Just fucking go get some pop bottles. You know? Hey. Shoot. Shoot. Us us kids would run around town, and we'd go pick up every pot bottle we saw. And, I mean I mean, we'd spend the first half of the morning going around town picking up all the glass bottles and all like that. I'm taking them down to the grocery store right there. It still had wooden floors and turning bottles in.
[00:29:52] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. That creaked beautiful. Yep. Yep. And And I bet you you can still smell it too, can't you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[00:30:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was yeah. It was awesome. And, yeah, we'd we'd turn the bottles in, get get 10¢ apiece, and by god, we loaded up on candy for the day, and then we went and played ball. That was livid, man. That was fucking livid.
[00:30:22] Duuude-Ron :
That was how you made a living as a as a as a kid under the ages, under the age of 18.
[00:30:31] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:30:32] Duuude-Ron :
Right? Under the age of 15.
[00:30:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Because at 16, you could actually go out and get a real job.
[00:30:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's the only thing. Unless you work for, for Farmer Brown, then pretty much about 13 is when. Well, yes. Same way with the hey.
[00:30:51] Unknown:
Same way with the paper route too. But nobody nobody these days would even have a fucking clue about that. Oh, heck no. No. God. Paper route route sucked.
[00:31:04] Duuude-Ron :
Jan, I knew those things were hard because, yeah, For us, we had to get up at, the papers would be dropped off over at all steps at, at 02:30. And so I would have to get up with my stepmom, and we'd go go because she's actually the one who did the, paper out. And so I'd get up have to get up with her and go grab the two or three bundles of, of newspapers depending on which day it was. And and, granted, they only did it, I think, twice. There for a while, it was twice a week, and then it went down to once a week. Well, now because you did twice because Wednesdays was, when a little was a little special, advertising, newspaper deal. And so you have to order those. And so depending on where was it wet outside or not wet outside? Were you gonna have to were you gonna have to wrap plastic or not plastic? And, I mean, I know you had to put because, you know, we'd fold it in thirds, fold it in half, and that was small enough to slide it through through the deal and throw the newspaper or throw the rubber band on, but it's still it's still Or or get it real tight.
[00:32:19] Unknown:
And that way, you could have a good real good, you know, stick to hit the door and wake up the patron. Now they don't they now they just freaking barely hit the side of the driveway. Right. They don't even fucking come up to the door. Because I got, an elderly lady that lives right across from me, and she still gets the paper. And they just drop it off at, you know, the slant of her driveway right before the street. Oh. I'm like Nice. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, why can't you just fucking toss the thing up on the fucking patio? Ain't that damn large? Point.
Oh, no. You're right. They don't. Uh-huh. Well, how many people do you actually know these days that actually fucking get a paper every day?
[00:33:19] Rich Chelson:
Not many. I
[00:33:20] Unknown:
know one. My neighbor across the street. Because I see it every morning when I go to work laying there in the driveway. I think, she's in her early or mid nineties.
[00:33:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:33:45] Unknown:
Yep. I mean, she still drives and, you know, something like that.
[00:33:51] Duuude-Ron :
Still has all her original marbles.
[00:33:55] Unknown:
Yep. In their original colors. Exactly. So, yeah, my you asked me about my day. Wonderfully going up to Abilene like I do every Thursday now. So and they just got a new plant manager, Monday, I think. Because the other guy, you know, put in his two weeks notice, and that was about, oh, close to a month ago, he left.
[00:34:36] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, wow.
[00:34:37] Unknown:
But, of course, that guy was talking to him was like talking to my, my walls.
[00:34:48] Duuude-Ron :
And didn't get much response.
[00:34:50] Unknown:
Didn't get much response and did and nothing that I said got absorbed between his ears ever. He always looked at me, you know, oh, here's a good one. And I've only seen it, and I've been with their or my company now for fifteen over fifteen years. This is only the second time. Well, I've seen two cylinders before, and then, of course, these guys had two cylinders today that had, labels that get put on the cylinder that was in Spanish. So the last time those were filled were in Mexico.
[00:35:41] Duuude-Ron :
I should've taken a picture of them and sent it to you. Oh, heck. Yeah. That would've been, something else to see right there.
[00:35:47] Unknown:
Yep. I should have taken a picture, but I didn't. But, yeah, they were, yep. Everything was in Spanish
[00:35:58] Duuude-Ron :
except for the not DOT approved.
[00:36:03] Unknown:
Yeah. No. They were far from DOT approved. Yeah. But this is only the second time or third time because there was two cylinders, so I've seen a total of four that had Mexican labels on them product labels. I was like, damn. And this far and this far north? Well, I will.
[00:36:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's a that's kind of a rare thing to see, especially that far. I mean, granted, we are it is Texas, but at the same time, yeah, that's a usually don't see see quite that, that many, that far up. I mean, we get a lot of starting to see a lot of a lot of people would use, Mexican drywall. And from what everybody says, that's some really good stuff right there. Panalo Panalo Rey. Really? Yeah. Is it more dense that I take it than what? I think so. I haven't actually messed with it at all, so I don't fully know. I just know that it comes up in Mexico.
[00:37:19] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, the ones that I have seen on, TV have, like, about, oh, four or six sheets on the bottom that are a % intact. Then you have about 10 sheets that have about o three inches left, like a wood screen door, and then about o six full sheets that haven't been tampered with, and that's how they're bringing drugs in.
[00:37:55] Duuude-Ron :
So they, you know, build a cavity within the stack. Yeah. Put a cavity in there and stuff everything in there. Yeah.
[00:38:05] Unknown:
Yep. Oh, and I saw, and I don't know when this was, the the Coast Guard where the hell was it? It was in International Water someplace, pulled off of a, shipping vessel. $500,000,000 worth of cocaine
[00:38:31] Duuude-Ron :
headed for The United States. Because I'm wondering who's gonna get to it. How hell or how?
[00:38:39] Unknown:
Yeah. They said it was, like, Two and a half tons, but 505 worth of cocaine. Yeah. Someone
[00:38:54] Duuude-Ron :
was not going to be around much longer. You tell I can guarantee you the, the boss of of that cartel was going, alright. Who was the mastermind behind that shipper? Oh, okay. Guess who's not around? He he's fired with a gun. Yeah. Yep.
[00:39:14] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[00:39:17] Unknown:
Don't fuck with their drugs.
[00:39:21] Duuude-Ron :
Because that's fucking with their money. No. She's gonna mess with her mom.
[00:39:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, God did make the poppy seed. So Well, Brian muted himself. You there, Rich?
[00:39:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm here.
[00:39:48] Unknown:
Okay. So Brian's probably Brian's probably talking away and not even knowing nothing's even coming through. Nope. Nope. I'm I'm
[00:39:58] Duuude-Ron :
I was trying to the guy next to me, he's got his, his, his APU running, and so I was I was trying to get in. But at the same time, I got a little close, so I'm at his mirror. And I was, like, going, some guy. Let's see what we could do here. I'm trying to calm my way in. So
[00:40:19] Unknown:
Are you already parked? Yeah. Yeah. I'm parked. Okay. Alright.
[00:40:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, I just said, Chuck, stop talking because I because I heard it echo.
[00:40:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Ran back. I wanna wash my hands.
[00:40:36] Rich Chelson:
Now why would you go do something like that?
[00:40:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, just because I don't like eating with with dirty hands.
[00:40:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[00:40:45] Unknown:
Did you also take a shower in the sink as while you're there?
[00:40:49] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. I am I I I can't I can't do that. I'm like, yeah. No. No. We I see guys who sat there and kept their hand underneath the faucet. I'm going, dude, I just watched the dude blow his nose in that sink. Just two people before you, and you're sitting there drinking out of it. So, yeah. No. I ain't touching shit. So
[00:41:15] Unknown:
Yeah. And and the guy before that was washing his ass.
[00:41:19] Duuude-Ron :
Probably. Yeah. Probably. I'm sorry, but there's a lot of real I mean, I see a lot of truckers who they drive drive some really nice, rigs. They keep the insides clean and and all that. Yeah. No. No. I couldn't, for for those that that are there, I do not see we have so many just dirtbag truckers too. I mean, I'm not just talking about the, and I'm not I'm not talking about just gross or or just kinda, you know, road dirty type of, type of, of, disgusting. I'm talking we got some guys who actually will have been known to cut holes in the floorboards of their sleeper, so they have a place to shit.
[00:42:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That's been going on for for Long time. Thirty years.
[00:42:22] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:42:23] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I was I was fucking hearing about that when I was driving truck dealerships and, Freightliner, places, beats. And if Yep. If, one of them trucks rolled in, they refused to work on it.
[00:42:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And it was just wrong with it. Yeah. It hit the it hit the, drop shaft and gets slung everywhere.
[00:42:47] Unknown:
Oh, okay. I I was curious that that it was it hitting the transmission or what it was hitting? Yeah.
[00:42:57] Rich Chelson:
It was well, I mean, what it whatever it was hitting, it was nasty. Yeah. And and, I mean, I get it. That's fine. I wouldn't work on something like that.
[00:43:08] Unknown:
Nope. That's just fucking disgusting.
[00:43:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It is. But but you see, that's the thing. You know? A lot of these people come over from different countries and, you know, this is the way they they grew up. And you would think that, you know, it's like, hey. We have, you know, bathrooms, but, you know, people, I guess, thought, oh, we'll just cut a hole so so we don't have to stop driving.
[00:43:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Don't have to stop driving. Don't have to stop stop at at all. And, I mean, it's bad enough. I mean, I've got a I've got a bucket that's that serves dual purpose. So but I still I'll put a I'll I'll put a double line, trash bags in just, when I have to do that.
[00:44:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But, yeah, but you only use it in emergencies. Right?
[00:44:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. Yeah. No. That's that's one of those where I'm, you know, I'm stopped at the, stopped for the night, and I'm on the, like, on a on an on ramp or something. Yeah. And it was like, okay. Yep. No. I'm on the morning the morning constitution. Doesn't care whether I'm I'm I'm, at at a, truck stop, home, or or on the side of the road. It it's time to go. So yeah. So yep. And that's that's the whole reason why I can't have trash bags, actually. Yeah. And just, I mean because grocery bags have holes in the bottom.
[00:44:55] Unknown:
Yes. They do. You're right. Oh, well, thank goodness thank goodness I'm home every night.
[00:45:06] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. No. That'd be That's fine. That'd be nice.
[00:45:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. Well, the and and, see, you're unfortunately, you're in this really, really, really small town where it's hard to probably find something of decent wage that's like what I am, a route driver, and I'm home every night.
[00:45:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That that pays decently. Yeah. I mean, I've got route drivers, but like I was telling you, like, the, the the Doctor Pepper bottling, distributor there in LC. If if he's increased his pay, he might make $18 an hour now. And, Yeah. That's that's not enough to to cover the, to cover the bills.
[00:45:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know? And to have a CDL for, you know, 15 to $18 an hour, I don't fucking think so. No. No. No. But
[00:46:12] Duuude-Ron :
CDLs typically, from what I understand are I mean, the the average is usually about about $50,000. And so
[00:46:26] Unknown:
Well, I'm lost. Around
[00:46:28] Duuude-Ron :
this area, they are. What do
[00:46:31] Rich Chelson:
you what do you mean I I I got lost?
[00:46:34] Duuude-Ron :
A CDL driver. You're you're $50,000 a year for for a, for a CDL driver here in in Western Oklahoma Oh. Is is about average.
[00:46:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Now Okay. Ain't ain't gonna work for me. No. No. I mean,
[00:46:52] Duuude-Ron :
I can make it work, but the wife is not gonna have any television to watch.
[00:47:01] Unknown:
Yeah. And what's the old saying? Happy wife, happy life. Pissed off wife. You're fucked.
[00:47:11] Duuude-Ron :
Unhappy wife is, yeah, and it's not a not a good thing. So No. But same time, I mean and I'm I'm not a well, I mean, I used to be a television watcher, but in the past, I don't know, fifteen years, I've really just kinda stopped watching television.
[00:47:35] Rich Chelson:
Right?
[00:47:35] Duuude-Ron :
My entertainment is either, is typically, the PlayStation. I'll play a video game before and and watch a movie. I do it. Now grant from time to time, I'll find a a a television show that, Jan is watching. It'll suck me in, and I'll it's like, oh, okay. Oh, let's watch this. And, you know, one that we're watching right now, me and her watching while we wait for the last half, the last season of Yellowstone to finally come out on on, on Peacock is, a show called, I'll show you what it's called, Paradise. And, it's got and it's a murder mystery.
[00:48:24] Unknown:
I've heard about it, but that's as far as it's gone. Yellowstone, I watched five minutes of the first episode. Oh, you're the I've ever seen of you. The only thing I've ever seen of Yellowstone is the ads for it on TV.
[00:48:41] Duuude-Ron :
Honestly, there's a reason why there's a hype about it because it is really good. I'm actually writing a, a a, blog post about the Duttons and how the Duttons actually show what masculinity is about. This is why so many people are so attracted to Yellowstone because, dad Kevin Costner's, character, John Dutton, he is a he is the has a vision, and he is a unwavering from that vision. You get in his way, he is literally gonna run you over. He protects his family. His family though he lot of people will take what, how he acts as being a very toxic family relationship, it's not.
And or they misattribute who the toxicity is actually to. Because the the toxic person is the is, the middle child or the middle son of the Dutton family, Jamie. And he is the very definition of a nice guy. He just wants people to like him, and so he does everything he can just to be like him. And because of that, he violates and and and, compromises the the family at every damn turn. And, then you have, you had Lee, which Lee is just kind of the, he was very dedicated to his job and ends up dying early on, spoiler alert. But, then you have, the youngest, Casey, and he is the he is the the youngest. He's youth.
He is bound and determined to raise his family as as well as he possibly can. His wife is Native American, and she is, and it and they both have a son trying to have more kids, and they're just you know, they're doing everything they can, but at the same time, because the world wants to rip apart paradise on Earth, also known as the Dutton Yellowstone Ranch. They everybody wants to have a piece of it. You know, they're they can't find peace on the on the property because everybody wants their wants that land.
[00:51:39] Unknown:
Why do they want the land?
[00:51:41] Duuude-Ron :
Because it is it is, it is California and and new and and and Washington and Oregon and New York, all the the, you know, the liberal countries, everybody is transplanting and trying to go to these places that where it's easier to live. And so you have developers coming in going, hey. There is some prime real estate land here on this Dutton Ranch. And so you have people trying all sorts of things. You end up having a, an investor group come in, and they propose you know, they're gonna put up a, airport smack dab in the middle of the Dutton Ranch, and they tried doing eminent domain on it and and all this other stuff. And shit goes down and things go bad and things go left and things go not so right and and all this. And so it's just it it's a it's a hell of a story.
And then Oh, okay. You have the one woman in the family, and her name is Beth. And one of the biggest attributes that she has is that she lives life fearlessly. She will not coward to anything. She is not afraid. She has refute because and she they kinda give a backstory as to why she is not afraid of anything anymore because she did, she she was afraid at one time, and it and and it caused a major problem, major problem. And so she vowed to herself that she was never gonna be afraid again, and she refuses to do anything in a state of fear.
And she actually is a great example of how free you can be in life the moment you give up fear. And it's a great, incredible story. And I mean, everybody's like, you know, my wife is like, oh god. I'd love to be better. And it's like, you know, well, I get it. I mean, she says what shouldn't on her mind. Goddamn damn the, the consequences. And it's just it it it's just the that family dynamic is so incredible, and it's so interesting in in my opinion. And so, yeah, I I recommend what it's it's like five seasons is all.
The last half of the fifth season is coming out here real soon on, like I said, on Peacock. And then they've got spin offs. They've talked about the that they've got a the I think it's 1883 or 1893 or something like that. It's the Yeah. The one that Harrison Ford is in? That one's, 1923. Yeah. That's where Harrison Ford is in. Right? Harrison Ford's in. He plays one of the, plays one of the granddad Duttons. You have, and then you have the original Dutton that comes in on in in the eighteen hundreds. And so and and so they've got several spin offs, which are just, amazing, but I but they're over on Paramount. So I once we get, once Janet gets tired of watching whatever shows she's watching on Paramount, I'm gonna that's the that's the next, channel that we're going to probably invest just so and and or invest.
Go off and, start paying so that we can actually catch the other two, Yellowstone stories because yeah. Yellowstone Yellowstone is pretty badass. I'd highly recommend it.
[00:55:32] Rich Chelson:
Okay. 83 and 1923 are excellent shows.
[00:55:38] Unknown:
I haven't seen, yeah, I haven't seen any of them.
[00:55:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well Just the commercial, Paul.
[00:55:44] Rich Chelson:
You'd like 1883 and 1923. That's for sure.
[00:55:50] Bryan Goodwin:
You think?
[00:55:51] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I do.
[00:55:54] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. We know.
[00:55:58] Unknown:
The shadow knows
[00:56:03] Rich Chelson:
shadow of the thing is with with, Yellowstone, the way the way you explained it and everything like this. And, I mean, this is the way and and and I agree with you. I mean, I watched the show. So but but but just listening, you know, how like you said, your wife said, oh, I wish I could be like Beth. You can.
[00:56:27] Duuude-Ron :
That's the thing. Yeah. You can. Anybody have to decide that you're not going to be afraid anymore.
[00:56:33] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, that that you know? And that's the thing. You know? A lot of people, you know, not not just your wife, but even us, you know, we you you know? If we look back and, look at our lives and stuff like this, yeah, we've let we've let everybody else, the media, and everything else basically dictate who we're gonna be.
[00:57:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:57:03] Rich Chelson:
You know? And it's, it's it's I I mean, I'm not innocent from it. I've I've done it. You know? Oh, very much so. I still do it. You know? And I'm not saying that that I like it, but, you know, it's just something that, you know, we've all been brainwashed, you could say.
[00:57:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:57:26] Rich Chelson:
So that's just my take on it. Because sometimes I sit and think deeply.
[00:57:35] Duuude-Ron :
Contemplate.
[00:57:36] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I do contemplate.
[00:57:40] Unknown:
You think deeply. What is that? About three inches of water?
[00:57:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Most of the time. In the bathtub? Two inches of the water in the bathtub? And and and then and then and then even if I have three inches of water, I still have to wear my floaties on my arms so I don't drown.
[00:57:58] Unknown:
Well, see, here you go. Here is a solution to the issue of your water in the backyard. It gives you a free place to take a bath.
[00:58:12] Rich Chelson:
See, I don't think the people next door in the apartments would appreciate a big fat white guy, literally a big fat white guy naked in the backyard taking a bath.
[00:58:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, tell them don't look.
[00:58:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Tell them go fuck themselves. Don't worry about what, you know, you're seeing over here. Just don't look. And when you say white, oh, yeah. You're like, looking at the sun white.
[00:58:41] Rich Chelson:
Right. So, I mean, I mean, even if someone tried not to look, they couldn't help but help it because it would be brighter than the sun.
[00:58:53] Unknown:
Oh, I yeah. I'm I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever of how white you truly are.
[00:59:03] Rich Chelson:
I am white. There's no doubt. No doubt.
[00:59:12] Unknown:
Shut the front door.
[00:59:20] Duuude-Ron :
Whatnot? No. It's not what. It's who. Eggs. What in the ham and eggs is going on around around here?
[00:59:29] Unknown:
I don't know. What's going on down there?
[00:59:32] Rich Chelson:
That's a saying you don't hear that often.
[00:59:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. You're right.
[00:59:37] Rich Chelson:
What in the ham and eggs? That's What the ham and eggs going on? Yeah. Oh, so
[00:59:48] Unknown:
And ain't we just a bunch of fucking losers?
[00:59:53] Duuude-Ron :
Well, we're we're we're we're getting to the age now that, that, hell, the the young kids, young whippersnappers are even going on forgetting what a boomer is. They're actually trying to start incorporating gen x in the boomers. So
[01:00:11] Rich Chelson:
That's not gonna bode well. Oh, no. No. No. It's fine. But because because, Gen xers will set them straight and
[01:00:20] Duuude-Ron :
don't care if they hurt their feelings. Oh, that they relish in the fact that they hurt feelings.
[01:00:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:00:27] Duuude-Ron :
It's like, oh, that hurt your feelings.
[01:00:29] Rich Chelson:
Okay. It's like I don't give two fucks.
[01:00:34] Unknown:
Here, now now that I've hurt them, let me just go ahead and retrieve them and stomp on them. Right? Fuck fuck your feelings.
[01:00:45] Rich Chelson:
It's like it's like these kids start whining and crying and boo hooing, and they're like, oh, what? Let me give you something to cry about. Something we all heard back in the day.
[01:00:57] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. Oh, how how that other thing how did that other thing goes? If you wanna cry or I'll give you something to cry about. Yeah. I'll give you yeah. It was whatever, and then I'll give you something to cry about.
[01:01:17] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[01:01:18] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:01:21] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. It's, a, yeah, it's a a mhmm. Yeah. See, they don't these kids nowadays, they don't understand. We'll give you something to cry about.
[01:01:34] Unknown:
Hell, yeah.
[01:01:36] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[01:01:37] Unknown:
I'll fucking pop the shit out of my grandkids. You wanna run your mouth? Not a problem. There are consequences. You know? I mean, that's the problem these days is the kids that are in their early twenties, they were never fucking disciplined. Yeah. Well, good. Alright. That's good. Disciplined. Well, I don't know about that. I got a good ass whooping every once in a while.
[01:02:18] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. No. No. I'm not dude. No. No. No. No. No. No. The kids that are in their twenties now, we're not their parents.
[01:02:27] Unknown:
No. We, yeah, we could be their grandparents.
[01:02:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We we could yeah. We would be their grandparents.
[01:02:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Their Yeah. You're right.
[01:02:37] Rich Chelson:
Their parents.
[01:02:39] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[01:02:41] Rich Chelson:
You know, pretty much,
[01:02:44] Unknown:
Oh, they wanted to be their friend. Yeah. They wanted to be their friends. Yeah. That don't fucking work.
[01:02:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Never has.
[01:02:54] Unknown:
Nope. You're right. It never has.
[01:02:56] Rich Chelson:
But every generation does it.
[01:03:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I believe it.
[01:03:07] Rich Chelson:
So oh, yeah.
[01:03:10] Unknown:
And, of course, every every generation before that generation was like, well, you know, what was I gonna say? The the aspect of you don't you don't even know what it was like to be in our generation with the discipline and, you know, this and that and, you know, the hardships and this and that. It's like yeah. Okay. But, you know, computers, TVs, and cell phones have turned everybody into, what's a good word for that, pussies.
[01:03:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's I mean I mean, that's that was the way things wanted to go. You know? That's I mean, that's that's the way people wanted everything to go for. Mhmm. You know? Because, oh my god. You know? They they had such a hard life.
[01:04:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And now they're just a bunch of fucking pussies.
[01:04:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:04:20] Unknown:
Basically. So that's my take on it. And, you know, what's so funny now is, like, our generation is, like, I could really do without a fucking cell phone. Yep. And then when you can't then when you misplace your cell phone, you're in a fucking panic trying to find that motherfucker.
[01:04:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I'm not. Fuck it. I don't care. I seriously, I mean, I've I've I've left my phone back here in in in you know, when I've been, you know, back here with my computers and my AM radios. And Yeah. Go outside and smoke a cigarette, and I'll scroll off, and I'll I'll go do whatever. I'll go back outside two, three more times, and I'll be like, where the fuck's my phone? And I'll I'll literally have to it'd be like, yeah. Well, I worry about it later. And then later comes around, I'll hear it. It's like, alright. I better go check it. It's like, fuck. Really? I mean, I was I was I was happy, you know, because I didn't have to, check it.
[01:05:33] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's it's amazing of what kind of tether we have on that fucking device. It it's just incredible.
[01:05:44] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. A lot of people, they're like, oh my god. They if the phone is not in their hand, they are they are freaking out.
[01:05:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Or within some type of reach. You know? Yeah. I don't always have to have my phone in my hand, but, you know, yes, it is within reach. Now should I
[01:06:11] Rich Chelson:
I leave mine all over the place.
[01:06:14] Unknown:
Now have I misplaced it and I'm getting ready to go to work? It's like, what the fuck did I do with my phone?
[01:06:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's different.
[01:06:23] Unknown:
Exactly. That's that's going to work. You, you know, being retired retired, it's like, you know, somebody calls me, they call me. If not, you know,
[01:06:36] Rich Chelson:
I hate to think of it.
[01:06:39] Unknown:
Yep. And I ain't gonna fucking worry about it.
[01:06:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yep. I I mean, yeah, pretty much. It's you know, that's the way it is. You know? So I mean, there's there's not there's not many people that call me. You know? My nephew might call me just to chitchat or ask me a question about about motors and stuff like this or show me stuff in this go kart, but, you know, he knows he knows if he doesn't get me, just I'll see it eventually, and I'll call him back, you know, or leave a message. If you don't leave a message, I ain't calling you back.
[01:07:16] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:07:17] Rich Chelson:
So that's just that's just how that goes.
[01:07:24] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm the same way. If, you know, I don't see a number that I recognize, especially when I'm driving. You know, I'll hang up. It's like and if you don't wanna leave me a message, I ain't gonna fucking call you back. Right. Obviously obviously, it wasn't that important that I needed to talk to you. Right. And, hell, probably half of them are fucking, telemarketers anyway. Right. Yep. And I don't wanna fucking talk to them. Shit. Everybody's you know, on these days, fucking answer the phone, and everybody's trying to scam you out of fucking money. Oh, yeah.
God. It's like, here you go. Go get a real fucking job.
[01:08:22] Rich Chelson:
I just hang up.
[01:08:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. But, you know
[01:08:28] Rich Chelson:
Fuck them.
[01:08:29] Unknown:
Yeah. But, you know, they do make a considerable and it is a job. Scamming is a job. They make considerable amount of money. Well You know? But it's, you know, at the cost of somebody else's, you know, naive.
[01:08:52] Rich Chelson:
You know? That's just been going on since since the beginning of time, though.
[01:09:00] Unknown:
Well, yeah. You're right. I mean, it is It did it didn't just start with computers. That's for sure.
[01:09:07] Rich Chelson:
No. No. You know that phrase, there's a sucker born every minute.
[01:09:14] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
[01:09:16] Rich Chelson:
So I I mean, that's I mean, yeah. It's sad that, you know, it's sad that people get scammed and stuff like that, but at the same time, it's like it's like people it is your job to pay attention and and to, you know, learn this. Mhmm. You know? If if yeah. You know? I I mean, I don't wish wish for anyone to lose their money or, you know, anything like this. But if you do, you probably should have done your research. And and trust me, I know people are slick. They can they can talk real slick. And, I mean, I I'm not innocent here. I've been I've been took a couple times my damn self.
Not lately, but, you know, I've been took in the past. And then I learned. I woke up. I said, nope.
[01:10:09] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:10:12] Rich Chelson:
So
[01:10:15] Unknown:
I had the same thing happen to me. Had the same thing happen to me. It sucked. But, you know, I learned.
[01:10:23] Rich Chelson:
Yep. It's expensive lesson, but, you know, you only gonna do that once.
[01:10:30] Unknown:
Yep. That is true. This is true.
[01:10:35] Rich Chelson:
So, yeah, that's I I mean, that's that's how I look at a lot of that. And is it right or wrong? Who knows? It's it's different for everybody. But Yeah. You know? I don't know.
[01:10:55] Unknown:
Oh, watching the news. Trump signs executive order to dismantle the Department of Education.
[01:11:02] Duuude-Ron :
Now Well, good. Alright. They act yeah. Now they'll actually do it.
[01:11:07] Unknown:
Oh, they're gonna get fucking feedback and all that other shit. Yeah. But about damn time.
[01:11:17] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean I mean, signing the order is great, but, like like Brad said, we're gonna take effect.
[01:11:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. The execution.
[01:11:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? Yeah.
[01:11:33] Unknown:
And and give it back to the states.
[01:11:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That must go back to the states, but that's the issue is that, that yeah. I think Department of Education was created by Congress. So the Congress actually has to be the one who actually remove gets rid of Department of Education. And that is a that's a that's all that's almost as much of a third rail as, as, oh, hell, what's the fuck? The the, Social Security and Medicare.
[01:12:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That means it's fucking be revamped. What do you mean, Brian?
[01:12:24] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I mean, that's that that's stuff that you will get a lot of people worked up, like, when Bush went off and and talked about, well, let's see what happens if we privatize Social Security, which would be great. That's the whole that, you know, that would be an awesome thing. But, again, the issue that you run into is, one, because Social Security is now the young working for the old instead of, you know, the old having their money put in you know, actually having their money. And when it's time to retire, they actually get their money back.
[01:13:06] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Right? Well, that's because everybody's so That that's because congress and them and the government has has raped it so bad. Oh, yeah. They have broke down to it. Money back. Use. Yeah. Need the money back, and and Social Security would be solvent again.
[01:13:24] Unknown:
Yep. That ain't ever gonna happen. It would be wonderful. Yeah. Well, yeah, there's a lot of things that they need to yeah. We need to fucking stop paying for the rest of the rest of the world and being the world's police. We need to stop that shit. If you can't police your fucking country, sucks to be you.
[01:13:54] Duuude-Ron :
Figure your thoughts. You've seen, you know, after, after, Zelensky, decided to act like a an entitled little little punk at the, at the at the White House and stuff. And you saw how everybody kinda came around and started, started, powering around Zelensky. One of the big topics of discussion that kept coming up is, well, it looks like we can't trust America to defend us anymore. And and so what do we do now? I was like, well, we're gonna have to find some way of making some pulling up some extra money. We're gonna have to start throwing a little more money to to, you know, to to to build our our defenses back up. I mean, hell, you got, France, I believe, just, put out a book for the public to to have on how to actually prep for in case of an invasion.
They think they're fixing to get invaded, which I mean, sorry. But no. Even though Putin would have liked to have you know, it might want to invade, which I mean, there's a reason why he invaded Ukraine, and it has nothing to do with Paris. He's not going to go off and run all the way down to Paris. Now Europe wants another war. They they they're out of money. They're they're like going, how are we gonna feed everybody and take care of everybody and get rid of and get everybody's, Medicare, you know, health care taken care of? We are we're not making anything right now. You know? If we get too good at something, our our government sues us into oblivion. So we got you know, how are we gonna make money? Well, they've gotta go into the war they gotta go enter into a war economy.
So Europe is is wanting is chomping at the bit
[01:15:53] Rich Chelson:
for for what? Why don't Europe help go into war with Ukraine then?
[01:16:02] Duuude-Ron :
Because they don't know what because they're hoping that because they go into a war with Ukraine, then, that activates, NATO. And right now, Trump has kinda gone, you know what? Y'all gotta get y'all stuff brought up to, to approved levels before America's gonna jump in and start doing some help. And, like, even if they went, even if the worst case scenario happened, say, it does turn into nuclear war. Guess who's not really gonna be able to use their nuclear weapons that well? And it's just one that I I've I've heard of, so I don't know for a fact. But the one I've heard of is Great Britain is not gonna be able to use their nuclear weapons because they rely on America's GPS system.
[01:16:58] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[01:17:03] Duuude-Ron :
And this is one thing the founding fathers were warning against. Do not sit there and become friends with all the other countries in the world because they're gonna tie you up and get you into a war that you do not do not wanna be in.
[01:17:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Since okay. Let me ask this question. Okay? Because I'm I'm I'm kinda probably naive about this, because, yeah, I didn't know this. Since when did did the federal government, own own the GPS system? I thought it was made by scientists. I could be wrong. No. No. It's
[01:17:41] Duuude-Ron :
it's US military.
[01:17:45] Unknown:
Yes. Military satellites, I think. Yeah. Yeah. They're all military
[01:17:52] Bryan Goodwin:
satellites.
[01:17:54] Rich Chelson:
I can see glass mass or, you know, something like that, but but a regular GPS system. Well well, that can be hacked, though. Okay. Alright. I just had to kinda, you know, run it over in my brain. So
[01:18:20] Bryan Goodwin:
but
[01:18:22] Duuude-Ron :
but, I mean, it's they're they're they're needing a war and is is the epitome of it. And they're that's one reason why they're still they ran to Zelensky. It's like, oh, we'll we'll help you out. We're gonna make sure we're gonna we're gonna find out. And, I mean, they even went as far as, executing the hitting the essentially is the the the failsafe. The, the prime minister of the EU parliament or whatever. I know the guys on on no agenda call her queen Ursula. And she is she has, she has executed the the statute that allows for, for the European countries to actually go into debt because the EU actually had a statute in there saying that you cannot spend more than you bring in, which is incredibly smart.
I wish our government had that, but, you know No shit. One wishing one hand shit another and tell me which one fills up first. Right?
[01:19:45] Unknown:
Well, yeah, God forbid if, you know, all these politicians, you know, the shit that they wanted came out of their pocket. Oh, hell yeah. Can't do that.
[01:19:55] Duuude-Ron :
So so they, a Dow, they can actually start spending more to ramp up for self defense. Now we're calling it, you know, for defense, and it's not defense. It's offense. It we I that's one of the greatest, lies or or, examples of wordplay. That's actually a better example of what I'd call it. A better one of the great examples of wordplay. It's kinda like how the the the Democrats, the, the anti, the anti inflation act or whatever it was called that, Biden put in. Has nothing to do with inflation. It sounds really nice and pretty and actually increased the inflation because there's more spending.
But one of the greatest misnames that the world has used and The United States uses is the defense department. Since when has America actually been attacked and that's only been one time in '47? Or not '47. Not '47. I've I've I've '42. What? Yeah. Forty December seventh nineteen forty two, the day that'll go go down in, in there. Yeah.
[01:21:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. For a while. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. So,
[01:21:34] Duuude-Ron :
and there's there's there's a seven in there. I knew that then I knew there's a seven, and so my brain's like, yeah. It's forty seven. It's like, no. No. No. You dumbass. So, but the but that's the only time well, correction. No. There was a second time. Canada actually attacked America and burnt up the White House. So but here, since we've had the Department of of Defense, it's not actually been about defense. We really haven't had anybody, especially in and especially Mainland. It hadn't been since 1812 that, that, the war of eighteen twelve that, Canada Yeah. Went off and and and and turned our White House black.
And so there's we don't get attacked. So all of our all of our, all of our military equipment is actually war. It used to be called the war department.
[01:22:49] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:22:50] Duuude-Ron :
And then, somewhere along the, somewhere after World War two, they, they changed it. Yeah. And, it became the Department of Defense. And I was like, okay. Yeah. That sounds nicer.
[01:23:03] Rich Chelson:
But let's let's keep people did it because it sounds pretty.
[01:23:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It sounds pretty. I mean, it's the Affordable Care Act. So where we can actually make your make your your insurance premiums go higher. So it makes the Yeah. Makes it much more affordable.
[01:23:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah.
[01:23:20] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. Make sure it's the unaffordable care act, actually. So
[01:23:25] Unknown:
No shit. Yeah. I'm just I'm just so glad that I have TRICARE Prime from my retirement because, yeah, some of my coworkers per paycheck every two weeks, couple hundred dollars Oh, yeah. Gets deducted out of their paycheck for health insurance.
[01:23:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's the reason why I don't have health insurance. I could not afford the I mean, there's there's a couple couple places that I found that, you know, yeah, you can get premium. Your your monthly premiums are are nice and low, like, $2,300 a month, which is still pretty fucking high if you ask me.
[01:24:12] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:24:13] Duuude-Ron :
But that doesn't that's also with a on around a $15,000 deductible. Uh-huh. Also includes, you know, your $20 co pay, which okay. That's the typical. And then there is to be able to tap into the co pay, you actually have to pay up something else also. So not just the deductible, but there's a little something else, and it's like $5,000 that you have to pay, before the insurance kicks in after you've collected after you've completed your deductible. So it's not actually $15,000. It's actually $20,000 that you have to pay before insurance will go, okay. Well, here's $20.
And so and and so it's, when we saw that and we're, like, going, okay. Well, we can get health insurance. But then when will we be able to use our health insurance? It still means we have to figure out some way of coughing up $20. We're out of pocket, you know, until until we get, until we hit the $20,000 mark.
[01:25:29] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:25:31] Duuude-Ron :
So, you know, God forbid if we needed it, you know the test is the expensive thing. Anytime we ever hear doctor go, oh, we need to get some blood tests. It's like, no. Let's not do any blood tests because that's a that's that's a grand right there. You're slapping a thousand dollars down to get the blood test because I've got hep c. I've had hep c, and I I've kinda I've gotten to the age now where I'm kinda curious if I actually have hep c or if I've just been popping, false positives this whole time. Because most everything that when I first came across hep c and and found out about it, everybody was saying, you got about twenty years.
And then, it it starts to go chronic, which is where you start having, cases where your your liver starts to go go, starts to stop working and stuff. Yeah. Well, I'm thirty years in now because I got it somewhere along the line while I was in the navy. And I think if I had to really guess, I think what happened is I somebody who had hep c tripped over a chain on the on the, in the hanger bay and scraped their hand because if because hep c viruses are very durable, so they can survive for several days on a surface before they die they die away because they haven't been able to pick up another host.
And so what I think is my assumption is that somebody tripped over a, over chain, fell, scraped their hand on the nonskid, and then I in my in my ever wonderful grace that I have did the same thing.
[01:27:30] Unknown:
Right.
[01:27:31] Duuude-Ron :
And that's the only way I could figure I picked up the, Hep C. It's either that or Jana, when she was a little kid, she ended up having, had, had, leukemia. So she had, got several blood transfusions, and that's the only other thing we could think of is that maybe because they weren't looking for for hep c. They weren't testing for it. They didn't know what to look for, and maybe she got it. But, again, I mean, twenty years as so she was by the time we got married, she should have had it, but, because she's shown up that she's tested positive for Pepsi also. So either I gave it to her or she gave it to me and through the use of of, you know, their as husband and wife's often do, I've, you know, I'd shave my face with my razor, and then she would go off and shave her legs with it.
Yeah. Uh-huh. And when you shave, you get microcut, so you're getting a little bit of blood on the blade. Yeah. There's a there was a sharing of of, of of blood in that fashion. So there's that's the those are the only things that we could think of as to where the hep c came from. Because at first Jan, the first thing she saw was that it was a sexually transmitted disease, and she was about ready to just go ahead and divorce me instantly. I'm like, I haven't had anything. Alright? We know that I gave blood you know, back when I first start first entered into the navy, they did a blood drive. I, gave blood. No one had a problem with it. Never got a notification on it or anything like that. Gave, couple years later, gave some more or not even couple years later. It's like a year later. Gave blood again. And then I was like and then one year, I was like, hey. Well, you know what? I need a little bit of money. I'm gonna go donate plasma.
And that's where they came back with, like, you got an upsy. We can't, can't accept it anymore. It's like, well, damn it. That was my first time to try. I only got $25 for it. So Got shot down on your first time. Yeah. I got shot down on my first time, so it was like, son of a bitch. So but, yeah, it's a but after that, I mean, you know, like I said, I mean, that's what, Evel Knievel had, had hep c, and it was just because of all the blood transfusions he had for the same reason. So, you know, they weren't in the seventies, they weren't looking for, they weren't looking for hep c. It wasn't until, the late eighties, early nineties that it really started, kinda creeping up.
And then there, they the only treatment they really had for the longest time was Intapuron shots. And now they've got, they've got pills that you they've actually got a a a treatment for it, but, see here. What how much is that? Hep c treatment
[01:30:54] Rich Chelson:
cost.
[01:30:58] Duuude-Ron :
Not curious to hear what
[01:31:02] Bryan Goodwin:
it
[01:31:05] Duuude-Ron :
was. Yeah. Mavericks. Nothing about.
[01:31:07] Rich Chelson:
Pepsi.
[01:31:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. There's I can't remember what it was called, so there we go. Thank per pill. Not oil, p I l l. Thank you. K. The cost of fabric for eighty four tablets is Thousand dollars 900 $13,909.
[01:31:47] Rich Chelson:
Goddamn. What medication is that for? Pepsi.
[01:31:54] Duuude-Ron :
Pepsi.
[01:31:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I love the the name of the medication? Oh,
[01:32:01] Duuude-Ron :
Maverick.
[01:32:04] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Well, you would
[01:32:07] Bryan Goodwin:
you would get most of your freaking deductible paid that way. Yeah. I still have to pay for it. So what's the purpose of going off and having a, of of having insurance if I'm gonna get still end up having to pay $13,000 for, for the, for a treatment. Right.
[01:32:38] Unknown:
And you know what? They're they're charging $13,000 for the medication, but how much did it actually cost for them to produce it? Right. $20?
[01:32:50] Duuude-Ron :
Maybe.
[01:32:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm being facetious, but still, even if they it costs them and, of course, they wanna get recoup the cost for research and, you know, they're paying that research doll doctor a million dollars a year and, you know, all that other stuff. It's like, okay. Even if you sold it for a thousand dollars, when it comes down to it, you're probably just doubled you know, it doesn't yeah. I don't know how much it costs to make medicine. Research is what's why it's so expensive.
[01:33:34] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Oh. And there's there's other treatments out there. There's, let me see, Sovaldi,
[01:33:41] Bryan Goodwin:
that does, twelve week, is a twelve week treatment,
[01:33:45] Duuude-Ron :
84,000. There's Harvoni, which is also a twelve week treatment, and it's $94,000.
[01:33:55] Unknown:
But is that a cure?
[01:33:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's supposed to be it's supposed to to get rid of it. Yeah.
[01:34:06] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:34:07] Bryan Goodwin:
At least that's what I'm assuming a treatment means.
[01:34:12] Unknown:
I don't know.
[01:34:14] Bryan Goodwin:
So But, yeah, I mean, let's thing is
[01:34:17] Rich Chelson:
some of the prices we pay for the drugs over here are, like, pennies
[01:34:23] Bryan Goodwin:
in other countries. Oh, yeah. Same exact drug. Yeah. But then those those other countries also have price fix.
[01:34:32] Unknown:
That's what The United States needs to have.
[01:34:36] Duuude-Ron :
Well, United States actually needs to stop letting drug companies advertise.
[01:34:44] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:34:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Those prices would fall really fast, really quick if they if they stop that.
[01:34:57] Rich Chelson:
Well, see, though, also, the, the drug companies, they don't want you to get cured.
[01:35:04] Unknown:
No. They don't.
[01:35:07] Rich Chelson:
So that's just all it is. And that's why it's it's, you know, it's crazy. Some of the same drugs that that we pay $500 for other countries, it's like, you know, $5 for six months.
[01:35:22] Unknown:
Right. Yep. Yeah. Uh-huh.
[01:35:25] Rich Chelson:
You know, we're paying $500 a month to thousand dollars a month. No wonder why Americans are sick.
[01:35:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Americans are sick because we have we do too much take too much sugar in.
[01:35:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, we do that too. But, you know, it's just it's you know, we need to just, you know, stop it. But Right. No one's gonna no one wants to do that.
[01:36:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Because we're one of one of the laziest nations in the world.
[01:36:09] Rich Chelson:
It's money, man. Money. Absolutely.
[01:36:14] Unknown:
Well, everything's about money.
[01:36:18] Rich Chelson:
I'm not about money.
[01:36:21] Unknown:
Yeah. You are.
[01:36:22] Rich Chelson:
No. I ain't.
[01:36:23] Unknown:
Yeah. You are.
[01:36:25] Rich Chelson:
How do you figure?
[01:36:27] Unknown:
What do you need to what may what makes the house payment? Money. What makes your vehicle payment? Money. It doesn't it's not not it's not the size or the amount. Yeah. But you still need money.
[01:36:51] Rich Chelson:
Well, I never said that that, you know, I don't need money because I do. Uh-huh. It's I'm not about the money. That's that's the thing right there. That's the whole thing. Oh, I gotcha. Okay. But, you know, a lot of people, they're about the money. They want every fucking dollar they can get and then more. You know? Because, oh my god. You know? They can't live on what they have. So
[01:37:23] Unknown:
Yeah. And, of course, it's always trying to they're always trying to compete with the Joneses.
[01:37:29] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. Right?
[01:37:31] Unknown:
Joneses have got to be some fucking rich motherfuckers, because everybody's always trying to compete with them for fucking money.
[01:37:39] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's how that's how everyone's taught. You know? Yeah. You you have to be the number one on the block.
[01:37:52] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. I just well, even myself included, just enjoy the the stuff that I currently own.
[01:38:12] Rich Chelson:
I enjoy my stuff too. I very much enjoy my stuff.
[01:38:18] Unknown:
Well, you know, I got a whole fucking two stall garage of nothing but stuff. I don't know what the hell I have out there, but, you know, I got stuff. You know? That's why I need a bigger house. I know. Two sons. I know. Yeah.
[01:38:42] Rich Chelson:
Drive sale.
[01:38:43] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:38:45] Rich Chelson:
One on each end of the driveway.
[01:38:48] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I gotcha. I gotcha. Well, you know, actually, I need a bigger house so I can get more stuff that I'll, again, we'll never use.
[01:39:01] Rich Chelson:
But why do you want more stuff?
[01:39:03] Unknown:
I'd that I want I would like to have just a fucking what you had, a a fucking barndominium or a fucking whatever that you called that up in Missouri.
[01:39:18] Rich Chelson:
I called that a tiny little shit. I I wish I wish I had a barndominium, but, no, I did not have a barndominium.
[01:39:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Well had a tiny home. You yeah. What you had? Yeah. I could yeah.
[01:39:37] Rich Chelson:
But the thing is is you couldn't have all your stuff because they wouldn't fit.
[01:39:43] Unknown:
I know. But see, if I downsized, I would have no choice but to have not a lot of stuff.
[01:39:55] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:39:56] Unknown:
That sits around collecting more stuff. Dust? No. Because something else will get piled onto that stuff and make more stuff.
[01:40:12] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:40:13] Unknown:
You know? So it's just that if you don't have the space to store it, then you won't have it.
[01:40:23] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. But yeah. I don't know. I've shit I I mean, I still have stuff that's that's I ain't looked at in five or six years, and I don't know why I still have it. Mhmm.
[01:40:41] Unknown:
Oh, I'm the same way. You know? I got all kinds of shit that fucking just crap. Just stuff. Right. Yeah. I know. Yes. I know I need to have a garage sale. I wonder how much the bricks would go for, though.
[01:41:03] Rich Chelson:
You could probably get $3 a piece for them, though.
[01:41:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I could. I'll have to count up the bricks I have in my garage. You know? Seeing as how I'm trying to sell the garage. Suit. Have you ever have you ever gone have you ever gone to a garage sale and say, by the way, how much you want for the garage?
[01:41:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I know. Yeah. That's what I'm here for. I you said you were selling the garage.
[01:41:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. You know, I I I have never done that. I I can honestly say I've never done that, but I might have to try that just to see what what someone would say.
[01:41:50] Unknown:
Yeah. And what kind of reactions you would get. They they probably just they it would probably just you get the thousand mile stare is what you'd get. They'd be like, what? What?
[01:42:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, either that or or someone would catch the joke really quick and be like, dude, that was really good, man. And laugh about it. You know?
[01:42:17] Bryan Goodwin:
That or no good? You're the seventh person today alone who's asked that same question.
[01:42:23] Rich Chelson:
Be like, damn it. I wanted to be the first, man.
[01:42:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:42:32] Unknown:
So you go up to him and say, truly, your best number for this garage seems how you have the garage for sale.
[01:42:44] Rich Chelson:
Well, what if it's attached to the house?
[01:42:48] Unknown:
Well, they're not it's not they don't have a sign sale on it saying house sale. They have a sign saying garage sale. You know, if then once you get the garage, if they wanna do minor home improvements to, you know, to fill up that hole that the roof was that you bought the roof for and, you know, that kind of stuff. Hey. More power on them. Yeah.
[01:43:22] Rich Chelson:
You would shit if someone come up with a price too.
[01:43:29] Unknown:
Hell, yeah. I probably would. I probably would.
[01:43:33] Rich Chelson:
Because because that would be the last thing you was looking, you know, to hear someone say, yeah. I want I want about $3,000 for this here garage. I'm about done with it.
[01:43:50] Unknown:
And then you try to negotiate the price down.
[01:43:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:43:58] Unknown:
So you say, okay. You got 962 bricks, at a dollar piece, and then you got the I'd have to get new shingles, then the movement cost. So, you know, no. I can do 2,200.
[01:44:22] Rich Chelson:
That is
[01:44:23] Unknown:
funny. And then actually come and fucking take the goddamn garage.
[01:44:29] Bryan Goodwin:
You come by, you pick it up, and run off with it.
[01:44:33] Rich Chelson:
You would need to you would need to, videotape that because that would be funny.
[01:44:40] Unknown:
Yeah. It would. But, hell, I could videotape it and put it all into AI and, you know, I could actually show that I'm picking up the garage and moving it. Hell, you could do that.
[01:44:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. That is true.
[01:44:56] Unknown:
So yeah. I think we're kind of beating that fucking horse to death, haven't we? He's he's man, we could chop that motherfucker up and make steaks now.
[01:45:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Now now now, honestly, have we ever beat a horse so dead that we couldn't beat it some more?
[01:45:25] Unknown:
Every episode, pretty much. We've beaten we've beaten something to death.
[01:45:33] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. That's true. But but but, you know, the thing is with us, we can still beat it, whether it be this week, next week, or the week after.
[01:45:44] Unknown:
We could still find a way to beat that dead horse. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know what? It'd be so much better if we just fucking made steaks.
[01:45:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. You're right about that. It'd be really good. Yeah. I've never had a horse, but but, I I mean, I'm game.
[01:46:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And, again, if you keep beating it, you're gonna tenderize the meat. That's for sure. So it's gonna be a nice, moist, tenderized steak.
[01:46:15] Rich Chelson:
The bad thing is is since since you wouldn't even need to cook it, it'd be so damn tender.
[01:46:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:46:23] Rich Chelson:
Throw it in the microwave for about twenty seconds. Damn. I it's well done.
[01:46:29] Unknown:
Yeah. No shit. I said fucking medium. Not well done, motherfucker.
[01:46:36] Rich Chelson:
Damn. I should've had it on seven seconds.
[01:46:43] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Well so, what do you think about all these, firebombings on all these Teslas? You know, it's, I'll I'll go ahead. I asked the question. I'll let you guys respond, and then I will chime back in. What do you guys think about all these bombings of all these Tesla places and on the Tesla trucks?
[01:47:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I think that's just a bunch of idiots who, who think that somehow they're making a statement. When in all reality, all they're doing is pissing a bunch of people off.
[01:47:34] Duuude-Ron :
They're not encouraging them to come over to their side.
[01:47:39] Bryan Goodwin:
They're just it's the same problem that the the republic the democrats have always had. And that's what that's who Antifa and all the others, the all the morons who are throwing, like, a shit fit and and burning up, Tesla
[01:47:56] Duuude-Ron :
Teslas and Tesla, dealerships and stuff like that.
[01:48:02] Bryan Goodwin:
That's that's who they are. They're not Republicans by any stretch of the imagination, though I've seen reports of them trying to say that they're Republicans, which is like the blue hair and and the the septum piercing kinda gives it away. You are not a Republican.
[01:48:28] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:48:29] Bryan Goodwin:
But no. It's just there I mean, I haven't unknown any protests going on that I've gone, yeah. That sounds like a really good idea. You know, that thing they really made a really good point. I think I'm gonna go over their side. No. It's never as. It's like you're an idiot. You're a moron. Stop banging on the bongos and go get a freaking job,
[01:48:57] Duuude-Ron :
and maybe you'll actually have some have some money. You know? Talking referring to the the, you know, occupied Wall Street people who just sat around and and play drums all the time, bitching that they don't have any money, and that capitalism is evil while, you know, making videos on on, on iPhones and and using, Apple laptops.
[01:49:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Sir, no. There there's plenty of, of excuses, of reasons that I don't buy what they say.
[01:49:37] Unknown:
Yeah. What do you think, Gray Allen or Rich?
[01:49:41] Rich Chelson:
Honestly, I haven't heard anything about it. In fact, that literally, I I didn't even know it was going on. I mean, just just hearing the way Brian was was freaking describing it. It's just I you know, all it is is, basically, we need to tell the media to shut the fuck up and stop giving these stupid people the Yeah. Air airplane. Because Yeah. I mean I mean, all they're doing all they're doing because the world watches America. The world watches our news.
[01:50:25] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:50:26] Rich Chelson:
They have been laughing at us now, fuck, for a long fucking time and really laughing at us and thinking that we're stupid motherfuckers.
[01:50:38] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:50:39] Rich Chelson:
You know? And and instead you you know, if someone wants to do that, fucking put a video on YouTube or v or or or Vivo or, you know, any of these other video sharing sites. I don't care. But don't just stop because you're not gonna change anything. You know? And and if you're not gonna get out of mommy's basement and put some pants on and get a fucking job, then shut the fuck up. You know? But that's just my take on on because it's I mean, just just listen to what Brian was saying, yeah, I can't I can't argue with that, but it's just stupid.
[01:51:34] Unknown:
Yeah. So Well, here's Ron's take. They and it's all starting by the Democrat leadership of our company of our country. And the insurrection, as it's so called, on January 6, you know, how many people got arrested during that insurrection because it was so bad? But how many people were arrested for all of these riots? Antifa and, Black Lives Matter and, you know, all of those, and the Democrats were supporting the riots. Yeah. They were running,
[01:52:32] Bryan Goodwin:
they were they were creating GoFundMe to to, pay for the bond the bail.
[01:52:40] Unknown:
Yep. So now, you know, they're doing it all over again and citing these riots and protests and all this other stuff. And because it's against Elon's company, that's okay. Right. Because that's their narrative. You know? Why is it that you just if you can't do your job, you know, competently, then why why do we have to have all this crap? You know? And, again, look at, Nancy Pelosi. How much was she roughly making a year as a congressman? Hundred and set roughly a hundred and $75,000
[01:53:44] Bryan Goodwin:
a year? Yeah. A hundred and something. Yep.
[01:53:47] Unknown:
Yeah. So how does she leave that area with a net worth of $80,000,000? Okay? Some
[01:53:57] Bryan Goodwin:
of it is, and there's actually, it's actually kind of an interesting way of doing it. They've got, there's a there's a, a company that's got an app out, and it's called autopilot. And what they do is they've actually have got anytime they they get a notice that, say, Nancy Pelosi is selling off some, some particular asset, some stocks that she has, or she's buying more stocks. Yes. They actually will go off, and they have a, they have it set up so that your you will then, mimic what, Nancy Pelosi does.
[01:54:49] Unknown:
That's correct. And and why did she buy those stocks and or sell these stocks
[01:54:57] Bryan Goodwin:
at that particular point in time? Right. Because she because they made a law that was going to affect that, that company, good and or bad.
[01:55:09] Unknown:
Yeah. And in insider trading. So she in some way, shape, or form of what the position that she was in and the people that she knew or the contracts were that were, you know, approved by her or what have you, she knew what how that company was going to be affected. So she made sure that she bought in or sold stock for that aspect. Again, insider information. That's insider information, period. And it's illegal.
[01:55:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, not entirely. It's not ethical, but it's actually not illegal because she is doing it out she is actually doing the sales and stuff. I think the, the amount of time is, like, forty five days before the event happens. So, like like, if there's a bill that's supposed to become enacted, you know,
[01:56:22] Duuude-Ron :
in in ninety days.
[01:56:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Once it's signed, it become and it's ratified, and she makes the makes the sale, it's not necessarily insider trading because she is selling before the news comes out. True. But it's far enough out that it's, not supposed to actually, it's a it's actually a legal thing to do. It's a loophole.
[01:56:55] Unknown:
Okay. So say Boeing is gonna create another s r 71 type bird. Public doesn't know about it, but yet Pelosi buys hundred thousand stocks at Boeing for and this is just a number, for $50.50 dollars a share. Right. And then when that comes that comes out publicly, that stock has already skyrocketed.
[01:57:26] Rich Chelson:
What a brand is saying. If it's done if it's done within, like, two weeks of it coming out, yes. That's wrong. Okay. But if it's if it's done ahead of time, like, forty five, sixty days, you can't really say that's insider trading.
[01:57:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I will I will disagree to the help.
[01:57:56] Rich Chelson:
Okay. I'm a hit Because if you That's fine.
[01:58:02] Unknown:
Yeah. My my only argument is is, okay. She bought stock, say, six months in. They knew that they're working on the deal. She buys it for $50. When it comes out, the the stock goes up to a hundred and $50. K? It's insider information.
[01:58:26] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Let me ask you this, Ron.
[01:58:29] Unknown:
Okay? Okay.
[01:58:32] Rich Chelson:
What if you had the same opportunity and you took advantage of it? Would it be the same?
[01:58:38] Unknown:
Would it be illegal? Yes. It would be.
[01:58:41] Duuude-Ron :
Would it be unethical? Yes. It would be. No. But what if it was just unethical but not illegal? And that's what's happening right now. It's like Pelosi, when she sells a lot of her stocks or buys a bunch of stocks and the way she's able to play the stock market isn't necessarily illegal,
[01:59:03] Bryan Goodwin:
but it is
[01:59:06] Duuude-Ron :
unethical in in our in our opinion.
[01:59:12] Unknown:
Right.
[01:59:13] Bryan Goodwin:
So if you were to do that, would it still be you know? And that's not illegal, but unethical. Would you, you know
[01:59:21] Rich Chelson:
Would you still take advantage of it given the same set of variables?
[01:59:31] Unknown:
You know, I would think that I wouldn't do it again. You know? Who knows?
[01:59:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. No. I mean I mean, we're not trying to put you on spot, but Oh, no. I know you're not. And, you know, I'm not saying I'm not saying Brian's not saying Nancy Pelosi is innocent here or or anyone else is innocent. But but the whole thing is is that is you know, it's it yeah. It people say it's unethical, but, literally, what is unethical? Because your rule rules that you follow are not the same rules I follow in my life. You know? You've got certain standards in your life that you follow that I don't follow, and I got rules in my life I follow that you don't follow. So who's to say it's unethical?
[02:00:34] Unknown:
Or get or guilty until or being charged guilty in a court of law.
[02:00:44] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, yeah, if you go out and get charged, then
[02:00:48] Unknown:
Well, just like speeding. You're not guilty until you get caught. Right?
[02:00:54] Rich Chelson:
Right. But is it ethical to speed?
[02:01:02] Unknown:
No. Because it's a law.
[02:01:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Don't speed it. What if your, what if peanut is severely hurt and is in the hospital and needs your blood. Uh-huh. Do you still drive speed limit, or are you driving a hundred miles an hour? I'm driving a hundred miles an hour. Okay. So is it is it ethical still or unethical, or is it just
[02:01:36] Unknown:
with that with that, yep, circumstance, and I will pay for the consequences after the fact. Very possible. Yep. I had
[02:01:52] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, very possible that you might.
[02:01:55] Unknown:
Yeah. So say I don't stop for if cop gets behind me and I don't stop and I get to the hospital and run-in there for blood, you know, I will deal with the consequences after I get done doing with what I have to do. Yep. And I am, at that point, willing to take those consequences for my actions.
[02:02:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And that's how a lot of people most most people would be that way. They would be alright. Yep. I mean, if I if I did wrong, okay. Hit me with the with, the with charge, and I'll I'll accept it. It's my responsibility. I I did that.
[02:02:52] Unknown:
Yep. And that's why they have and that's why we they have a court of law. Right.
[02:03:03] Bryan Goodwin:
So
[02:03:08] Unknown:
but, yeah, you know, everybody can argue the factor of what is their morals, what is it worth. Right. What are my morals worth to you? You know? And you may have that same strong ethical thought that I do. Then then again, you may not. But like what Rich Rich was saying, these are my morals, values, and ethics, and then you have your morals, values, and ethics.
[02:03:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Absolutely. So
[02:03:58] Unknown:
no. No. I I totally agree with that. So would I would I think that I would do it just because I had the insider information? I would hope that I wouldn't and or report it. You know? So I don't know. Can't can't answer that. Can't truthfully answer that question. It's Right. Without it without it going against me in one way, shape, or form.
[02:04:41] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's I I mean, you you see, that's the thing. You know? It's it's it's what is your truth? Okay. Your truth is not mine. You know? My truth is not yours. Same way with me. So you know? And and and that that's why that's why something like this, it's, I mean, it's so hard to say who's right and who's wrong when when you can't really say. I mean I mean, yeah, we all have thoughts on what is right and what is wrong, but, you know, yeah, who's to say? Now if you break the law, then, yes, you're wrong. You know what I mean? And like you said, and I would do the same thing. If I got caught, write the ticket.
I'll pay the paper because I screwed, you know, you know, I screwed the pooch. Yeah. But, you know, if it's not against the law, who says I can't do it? Yeah. And that that's just that's just my thoughts.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Oh, I agree with you.
[02:06:02] Rich Chelson:
That's that's like I've heard I've heard someone say something about, oh oh, you have God's law and and and human law. I'm like, excuse me? When the fuck do you hear about human law? Since when do humans have a law? Y'all ever heard that?
[02:06:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There's god's law and there's there's human law.
[02:06:29] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I had never heard of that. What explained that to me.
[02:06:34] Unknown:
Okay. Again, going back to speeding on the on the road, is did God initially invent automobiles when Adam and Eve were made?
[02:06:53] Rich Chelson:
No.
[02:06:54] Unknown:
Okay. So there wasn't any speed limit law made by God that was made by man.
[02:07:05] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:07:08] Unknown:
Now a god's law that we commit, murder, stealing, that's a god's law.
[02:07:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. The 10 commandments. Yeah.
[02:07:24] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:07:28] Rich Chelson:
But what's the human law?
[02:07:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Human laws are like, well, the laws of the laws of the land. So, like, that we have to have, liability insurance to to to own a car. That's a man's law. That's god doesn't care whether you have liability insurance or not. But that is it is a law that is, is created by man.
[02:08:00] Rich Chelson:
Oh, so so okay. So so human law is is is
[02:08:08] Bryan Goodwin:
what? It's gonna be fallible. It's based upon a lot most of it or or not most of it, but a lot of it is based upon
[02:08:17] Rich Chelson:
What you want other
[02:08:19] Bryan Goodwin:
people to do. Yeah.
[02:08:21] Duuude-Ron :
To you know? So, like, yeah.
[02:08:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So and that's yeah. That's okay. Okay. I I I get it now. I mean, I don't agree with it, but I get it. And I mean yeah. You know? I mean, you know, I mean, I'm not gonna go out and speed because I know I could get a ticket. I'm sorry, but I like to keep my money. You know? Yep. You know, I'm I'm not I'm not stealing. I'm not I'm not doing none of this other stuff. You know? It it just I don't know. It just I don't know why it's such a big deal. Never used to be that. Or or at least I never thought of it because, I don't know, subject probably never came up. It never came up. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And I was so, yeah, that's why that's why, you know, I didn't think of it. But, yeah, I heard that, and I'm like, what?
Human law. Fuck that. No. I do what I want. And, see, that's the thing. Even with human law, you can still do what you want. You just have to be willing to accept the consequences.
[02:09:43] Unknown:
Yep. That's the whole thing.
[02:09:45] Rich Chelson:
You know? I don't know. I just I I just No. It just kinda gets me sometimes. Yeah. Dude, what is your tip of the week?
[02:10:10] Duuude-Ron :
Ouch.
[02:10:12] Unknown:
You would have that.
[02:10:14] Rich Chelson:
Hey. It's 09:10. I just looked at the clock, and I was like, oh, shit.
[02:10:20] Unknown:
And it and two hours ago, I knew what it was. And now that you asked me at 09:10, I fucking forgot what my tip was. I'll have one here in a couple minutes. I'll have a ten.
[02:10:35] Rich Chelson:
Okay. No. I just looked down. I'm like, oh, shit. We haven't heard dude's tip of the weekend. I'm like, you know, it's it's like it's after 09:00. You know? I got to know, man.
[02:10:53] Unknown:
Okay. Let's see. Tip of the week. Always wipe your ass with toilet paper and not sandpaper after you get done taking a shit.
[02:11:19] Rich Chelson:
Are you speaking from experience, dude?
[02:11:25] Unknown:
To an extent, yes. And and you have experienced it as well.
[02:11:34] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[02:11:35] Unknown:
Have I? Yes. You have. How have I experienced it? When you got shit paper in the military.
[02:11:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, from the MREs? Yeah. Or just well, yeah. In the freaking latrines?
[02:11:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep.
[02:11:53] Unknown:
Wasn't that just a little bit rough?
[02:11:57] Rich Chelson:
Little bit my ass. That that left red streaks, man.
[02:12:02] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[02:12:03] Unknown:
So it was kinda like sandpaper.
[02:12:07] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was It's
[02:12:09] Unknown:
actually almost like wiping your ass with a fucking, you know, an actual stick before they produced it into toilet paper.
[02:12:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Some of it felt like that. Oh. That ain't no lie. Mhmm. Brian, what about you? I bet y'all had Charmin.
[02:12:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, I can't hear you all of a sudden. What's that? There you go. All of a sudden, y'all y'all weren't coming through. I was like, oh, what the hell? I can't hear nobody. But I can sit there and watch, read the, the closed captioning. So
[02:12:49] Unknown:
You have closed captioning?
[02:12:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:12:52] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:12:54] Rich Chelson:
So so, Brian, what kind of toilet paper did you have on the ship? Charmin?
[02:13:02] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. It was just basically,
[02:13:05] Duuude-Ron :
Scott's.
[02:13:08] Rich Chelson:
Scott's? Oh my god. Yeah.
[02:13:11] Duuude-Ron :
We
[02:13:12] Rich Chelson:
Y'all living in the lap of luxury, man. Yeah. Single ply wonders. It was softer than what we had.
[02:13:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But see, the problem is you end up having to use many so your finger wouldn't poke through.
[02:13:31] Unknown:
Yeah. That's so, yeah, there's another aspect of that. It was so damn thin that you, you know, you can just barely tap on it and poke your finger through it. Yeah.
[02:13:49] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But yeah. No. It but but you see yeah. Oh, yeah. Our stuff? Oh, yeah. No. It was like like Dave was saying, you know, shed a tree stick most of the time with softer. Mhmm. Serious, man. It was it was that bad.
[02:14:09] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:14:11] Rich Chelson:
It's like and and and god, you you screen for days if you had the runs.
[02:14:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That really sucked.
[02:14:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It did. Yeah. We What he don't We we called it John Wayne toilet paper. Left and tough and don't take shit off of it. Nobody. Right? Yep.
[02:14:39] Unknown:
That's that's Well, well, other than basic training, they, drill sergeant said that you only need one sheet of toilet paper. So you you you fold the sheet of toilet paper up into Quarters.
[02:14:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Quarters. Half and half again.
[02:15:02] Unknown:
Right. You take off, you know, you, take off the one corner. You rip that off. Yep. Right? Stick it in your shirt pocket. So then you unroll that one piece of toilet paper, stick your finger in that, wipe your ass with your finger. Right? And then that piece of toilet paper, you're taking you're wiping your finger off with that piece of toilet paper to get all the shit off, and you throw the the toilet paper away. Dan, don't forget about that little piece that you stuck in your pocket. That's what you're gonna use to clean up underneath your nail.
[02:15:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:15:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I heard that basic too, but I never listened to it.
[02:16:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I just thought it was funny.
[02:16:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. We yeah. We were yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were given a block of instruction on how to use up, toilet paper.
[02:16:18] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:16:20] Rich Chelson:
Guaranteed.
[02:16:23] Unknown:
And now if anybody ever followed up on that, I have no idea.
[02:16:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Me neither.
[02:16:34] Unknown:
So if they actually did it I know I didn't personally. You know? But I'm sure somebody may have, you know, done that. Who knows?
[02:16:53] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I I mean, I I just hope I never meet that person because I would just laugh. I would. I probably never would shake their hand again.
[02:17:07] Unknown:
That's exactly that was gonna be my statement. It's like, yeah. If I knew the eye shaking your hand, that's for sure, motherfucker.
[02:17:19] Rich Chelson:
Because you see the thing is, you don't know if they still do it to this day. You never know. They might have tried it and liked it and you know? So it's like, yeah. No. I'm good.
[02:17:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it's kinda like, you know, if you go to the you go to the to, again, truck stops, truckers being truckers, you go to go and take in a dump, and the guy next to you, you hear water splashing. You know, pay attention after it's done because you aren't going to hear the water on the sink run.
[02:18:04] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:18:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. I missed something. Say that again, Brian. Have you ever have you ever been sitting going to the bathroom and you the guy in the toilet, next to you, all of a sudden just you hear him splashing in the water? No. Oh, good god. Yeah. Well, I have.
[02:18:24] Rich Chelson:
I'm sorry.
[02:18:29] Bryan Goodwin:
And it's, again, it's the same people who they their left hand is strictly for that. Every time I've I've had that, I've stepped I've I've like, oh, goddamn. I wanna call this fucker out if he doesn't wash his fucking hands. And sure enough, step out, and he was he was rather dark skinned. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. They don't don't use toilet paper. They're gonna they'll still use their hand and splash the splash the the poo off their fingers. Yep. No. And then when they're done, they they flush the toilet. I mean, thank god they at least flush the toilet, but then they they just have no concept of wash your fucking hands afterwards, man. That's just all out disgusting.
Yep. I mean I mean, you would called a few of them out, and they're just like I did. I washed my hands. It's like, no. Not in the fucking toilet, you jackass.
[02:19:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. That's just no. I I I had never experienced that. Oh, it's a you you don't wanna. I mean, that's Well, obviously.
[02:19:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Get just out of the sheer fact because you're you know, you're going, nuh-uh. That's that's hand in water splashing. That's that's not that's not a case of bubblegut. It's that's that's, that's someone playing playing in the water. Actually, I like truck stop toilet. And the truck stop toilet of all damn things.
[02:20:16] Rich Chelson:
I mean I mean, seriously, what with with with the people that they use a truck stop toilet, you don't you have no idea, who has what disease or anything. You know?
[02:20:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But, again, that's why they don't the the Muslim population, you do not shake or use your left hand. It is a high insult to whoever it is you offer your left hand before. You're liable to they're liable to to turn around and start punching you.
[02:20:56] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:20:57] Duuude-Ron :
Because that's what they they are raised with. They that your left hand is for wiping your ass.
[02:21:04] Unknown:
Yep. And if they get caught stealing, they get their right hand cut off. Yeah. That
[02:21:17] Rich Chelson:
see, that's why I'm not Muslim.
[02:21:19] Unknown:
Yeah. So and the reason for that is that they cut your right hand off is now you have to eat with the same hand that you wipe your ass with. Yep.
[02:21:33] Rich Chelson:
Yep. I'm not I'm not one of them. So
[02:21:36] Unknown:
No.
[02:21:39] Rich Chelson:
Never gonna be.
[02:21:41] Unknown:
Nope.
[02:21:44] Rich Chelson:
Why? Because old age when I get senile and everything.
[02:21:49] Unknown:
And even if it's sandpaper.
[02:21:53] Rich Chelson:
I use sandpaper, but my finger ain't going through.
[02:21:56] Unknown:
Well, that's what I'm saying. You you could use toilet paper. You could even use sandpaper, but you're gonna use paper.
[02:22:04] Rich Chelson:
Damn right. I am. That is no bullshit.
[02:22:11] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:22:13] Rich Chelson:
Hell, I've used shirts when I didn't have toilet paper. I I I had something. My hands were covered.
[02:22:21] Unknown:
Yep. I've done that same thing too. Out in the field, you run out of toilet papers, like, damn. Okay. Here's this nasty T shirt from a couple of days ago. Yep. Gonna have to get sacrificed.
[02:22:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's
[02:22:35] Unknown:
gone. I gotta go is that I gotta go take a shit.
[02:22:40] Rich Chelson:
I'll just go to PX and buy more T shirts.
[02:22:43] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right.
[02:22:44] Rich Chelson:
Because I I ain't washing it.
[02:22:48] Unknown:
No. Because you've cut it up into, you know, small pieces, so it's not like you can ever even wear it again.
[02:22:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, you could sew it back together if you really wanted. Like, you know, I wasn't going to all that trouble.
[02:23:01] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Neither was I. No. I just, I just put it into the hole and buried it up with the With the rest of the With the rest of the With the rest of the business. With the rest of the business.
[02:23:16] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Hell. Yeah. Hell, I still still carry an etool and toilet paper in my Jeep.
[02:23:26] Unknown:
Do you?
[02:23:28] Rich Chelson:
Hell, yeah. I do. Dude, I never leave home without that motherfucker.
[02:23:33] Unknown:
Either one of them. Well, yeah, I've always get yep. I got two rolls of toilet paper in the back of the Jeep in my box.
[02:23:43] Rich Chelson:
I've got one in the back, one in my console.
[02:23:46] Unknown:
Yeah. And but I don't have any tool. Gotta go. I got I got access. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Don't have an e tool, though, but hey.
[02:23:59] Rich Chelson:
I've got two of them. I only carry one, though. Yeah. I've got I've got two, though. Oh, yeah. Because you never know when when when, the bell is gonna tow. So I'm ready to dig that hole when necessary.
[02:24:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Uh-huh. I'll give you that.
[02:24:30] Rich Chelson:
You know, it's just I just I don't know. Just yeah. Ever since that one year with the whole time and distance issue, I have never played around with that. You know?
[02:24:46] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:24:48] Rich Chelson:
I I just that was too close for comfort, and it's like, yeah. I'm not doing that again. I mean, I made it. I survived. But, god, that was oh, man. That was bad.
[02:25:09] Unknown:
Yeah. I can believe it.
[02:25:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[02:25:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Other than that, I mean, it's been fairly nice this week. Like I said, I went and, you know, coded, you know, went to my park, played ham radio, which was fun. That was actually kinda cool because it was, like like, 75, almost 80 degrees, and I'm sitting out there in the short sleeve shirt, and I'm just like, oh, yeah. This is great. I was gonna do it yesterday, but I got sidetracked. And then today, it it just yeah. The wind was blowing, like, 80 miles an hour. No. I mean, not that fast, but, yeah, it felt like it. And it was chilly, and I'm like, yeah. No.
Ain't ain't doing that. So I fiddled around the house here.
[02:26:11] Unknown:
Yeah. And you said your temperature in the morning is supposed to be, you know, in the mid thirties to low forties. Yeah. That's what Yeah. That's where we're supposed to be at as well.
[02:26:25] Rich Chelson:
So you're supposed to Right.
[02:26:29] Unknown:
Right? And that wind, oh my god.
[02:26:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know.
[02:26:35] Unknown:
Jesus. It's been blowing almost a freaking constant for a week. Today, there was very little wind.
[02:26:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. So everything up until today, welcome to the Texas Panhandle.
[02:26:55] Duuude-Ron :
Because because that's Texas Panhandle where you you have, you know, twenty, thirty mile an hour winds blowing. That's
[02:27:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh. Pretty much spring and fall. Right. Summer, you'll have the you'll have twenty, thirty mile an hour winds. Also, the only difference is is it's a hairdryer. You can actually go wash your hair, walk outside for five minutes, come back, and it's dry.
[02:27:20] Duuude-Ron :
It's just a hot and dry just hairdryer.
[02:27:26] Unknown:
Yep. And that's why I will never live in the Panhandle, either one of Texas.
[02:27:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Neither one of Texas.
[02:27:38] Unknown:
Well, you got the one on the top, and then you got the one on the on the, West Side, if you wanna call that a Panhandle.
[02:27:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, that's what it says.
[02:27:50] Bryan Goodwin:
That that's the armpit that's the armpit. Yeah. I'm It's about that South Of Texas.
[02:27:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not going I ain't going to either one of them.
[02:28:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Panhandle Of Texas or Panhandle Of Oklahoma? Or
[02:28:06] Unknown:
Panhandle Of Nebraska.
[02:28:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:28:12] Rich Chelson:
Dude dude, you should go to, El Paso. It's it's it's actually a cool little town. No. No. El Paso is nice.
[02:28:22] Bryan Goodwin:
I can give you that. I mean, that part of part of, of New Mexico isn't horrendous.
[02:28:30] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. I mean, that's I mean, I always enjoyed running out there. Just well, I mean, I'm weird too because, you know, I like the rock formations.
[02:28:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:28:43] Rich Chelson:
You know? And, you know, a lot of people go out there and they're like, oh, it's a fucking desert. It's nasty. Why why do you like it? Look at the fucking rocks.
[02:28:53] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean I mean, there's aspects to it. Yeah. You're right. There that are that are great and beautiful. I mean, like, yeah, the rocks and the and the topology of of New Mexico, beautiful. You get into the, into the rocky, there in, in that area or in the mountains portion where, like, Ruidosa is. Yep. Beautiful area. You get in between, you know, from no. Not well, Las Cruces a little bit, but you get up, going in between there and, like, Las Vegas, New Mexico. And yeah. No. I get you there. It is just flat. There ain't shit there. It's dirt. All it is is dirt and scrub brush.
There there's nothing really that I find particularly pretty about a good portion of that. Now you get up into the northern parts of New Mexico where the mountains are. Oh, hell yeah. I love that area.
[02:29:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, see see, the thing is when I see the flat parts yeah. Yeah. I understand what you're saying about the scrub brush and all like that. Yeah. That's not pretty, but you see you see, you know, a lot of people are like, well, there's no trees, and if there's no trees, I don't like it. You know? Look at it for what it is. Think about it. You you you know, think back past your own your own limitations. You know, expand your mind a little bit and think think think back, you know, how did this rock form? Look at because you could see all the striations of where the water level was at one point in time, whether it was a river or whatever.
You know? You can look and see how that rock was carved out by water and just think of the sheer power of just a bottle of water. Mhmm. You know, that's that's that's what I look at. You know? When I'm running out there and it's it's basically barren like that, you know, and then and then to see the cactus, you know, yeah, after a while, it does get kinda boring. But, you know, at the same time, it's still you know, it's like you know, I'm sitting here thinking. It's like, how? How did this thing freaking survive? You know?
I don't know. You see, that's that's where I'm weird.
[02:31:31] Unknown:
No.
[02:31:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know I am, so I'm good with it.
[02:31:41] Unknown:
Well, yeah, I could I can agree with you on that. So, you know, you do resemble that remark.
[02:31:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I do.
[02:31:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I won't That's okay.
[02:31:54] Rich Chelson:
I won't I won't argue with that, man. Mhmm. Oh, yeah. But that's why that's why I always like running out west. You saw, like like, the beautiful areas, what looked like desolate areas, and then, you know, you had the different colors in just one cliff of, you know, the rock and and how it was shaped and formed and all like that. It's like, oh my god.
[02:32:29] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:32:31] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[02:32:32] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Barely by the destruction of water.
[02:32:40] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh.
[02:32:42] Unknown:
Well
[02:32:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. It just yeah. It's it's, I don't know. I mean, yeah. I like I like weird stuff like that.
[02:32:58] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. That's cool.
[02:33:04] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, I see I see I see BD in many different ways. Uh-huh. You know?
[02:33:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Did Paul fall asleep on it? Nope. Nope. I'm still here. I'm still here. Oh, okay. Fact, I was pulling up the stories that I wanted to talk about. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. With mass chaos down in in Antarctica. So
[02:33:37] Unknown:
That's right. Yeah. So
[02:33:39] Bryan Goodwin:
but, yeah, yeah, there's a apparently, there this one here just captured my imagination. And, I mean, all I could think of is seeing Kurt Douglas and or not Kurt. Yeah. Kurt Douglas. No? Yeah? Saying, is it Kurt Douglas? Yeah. It's Kurt Douglas. No. It's not Kurt Douglas. Who is his? Or is it his son?
[02:34:00] Unknown:
In what?
[02:34:02] Bryan Goodwin:
The thing. Oh, I never saw the thing. Russell. Russell. Russell. Russell. I knew it was Kurt. Goddamn. I'm an idiot. Don't mind me. It's getting late. So, anyhow, got just got me thinking of of Kurt Russell and and and the thing and all that. Just, you know, mass pandemonium of what would happen if someone actually did snap while in, locked up in in Antarctica for the, during the wintertime, which I think they're there for well, it's I think it mentions it. So but, anyhow, Newsweek article, Antarctica based, map shows isolation of scientists as violence breaks out. So, apparently, we had a scientist who's just completely, gone off the deep end. Newsweek has created a map that lays bare the isolation of the South African research base in Africa, in Antarctica where a team is reportedly trapped with a colleague who has become violent.
A man has allegedly carried out a physical and sexual and a sexual assault with deeply disturbing behavior, leaving his coworkers fearing their own safety, once said in an email to the South African government according to the newspaper, The Sunday Times. Newsweek has contacted the council of managers of the national Antarctic programs via email for comment, but, apparently, I guess they haven't answered. The overwintering team spends fifteen months at the, Sani 4 Antarctic base, two in a which are in total isolation. So they are all locked in there for ten months at a time.
No one comes by, says, hey. How you doing? I hope y'all are alright or anything like that. It's just you you hope you find that find a way to maintain your mental health and all that. So concerns were raised. Concerns had been raised about the allegedly violent man before they all went into isolation, which is another kind of somebody wasn't paying attention. They were like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's he, he he's fine. He paid his $20,000 or whatever it is to go do the study. So he he raised his portion of the money. So it it we're good. All went into isolation, and then there was still time for the SA Agulhas two ship to, evacuate the team member before it departed Antarctica, the Southern Times, reports.
Last month, one of the team members wrote an email. His behavior is becoming increasingly egregious. I'm experiencing sufficient difficulty in feeling secure in his presence. It is imperative that immediate action is taken to ensure my safety and the safety of other of all employees. And the Department of Forestry, Fisheries, and the Environment, which manages the South African National and, National Antarctic Program has launched an investigation. And they show, yeah, kind of a year round versus seasonal on the year round one. I mean, now there is nobody within miles and miles and miles of this place. So but the, Sani 4 Antarctic Base, which was built in '97, is open year round and has a peak population of 80 people according to data as of November 2024, collected by the council of managers, national Antarctic, programs.
The base is one of the most isolated in Antarctica locations located deep inland and within a remote part of the continent called Puyen Modland or, a, a con nap a Com nap fact sheet shows, which I don't know what Com nap means. But, anyhow so most Antarctica stations are, building coastal ice shelves or large inland ice sheets, making them more accessible to ships, planes, and overland convoys. But the Sani four is on the valetri valetri scarvet, a none none of tech peak of a rock that protrudes above the surrounding ice sheets, meaning that is cut off from multiple ice spaces, based travel routes. It's close to significant ice shelf is, is FEMO ice shelf, and that is a hundred miles away. It requires more complex overland journey.
Go mushing for a hundred miles. The closest space is Doorway's troll station just a 20 miles away, while South Africa's nap, SANAP, summer station is about a 40 miles away. The only way to leave the base now is through emergency medical evacuation to a German base around a 86 miles away. So, yeah, just think if you were stuck and somebody went off the deep end, that is a movie.
[02:38:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That is a movie, but, also, South Africa. I'm surprised there's not more of them that have gone postal. I ain't used to that fucking weather. Oh my gosh. That is a movie and a book. Dude, hurry up. Pitch it to Hollywood.
[02:39:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Pitch down with My son, he's he's still one of the things he has just, for a long while, just been kind of, interested in in tweaking is, is doing writing scripts. Now he likes to do a lot of comedy script and stuff. So but at the same time, that's that, you know, that's something just right up his alley. He was like, yeah, man. That would be write a script and actually, that would be a fun, fun video game to kinda almost alien isolation. Okay.
[02:40:05] Unknown:
And how the heck are you gonna create a video game?
[02:40:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I'd have to do a lot of work learning how to program
[02:40:14] Unknown:
too.
[02:40:16] Rich Chelson:
But what That would be that would be easy. Set out as a South African team and and travel down to Antarctica and, you know, and stuff like that. And then and then you eat the wrong food and, you know, you wind up going postal, and they got all the, you know, these bases that are, you know, certain distances away and that that, you know, either you or someone has to try and make it and you have to go chase them and kill them or whatnot. Yeah. Shit. Yeah, dude. I could totally see a video game out of that. Hell, yeah. No. That'd be Maybe even a sequel.
[02:40:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:40:55] Rich Chelson:
You know, extend the story even further.
[02:40:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Yeah. Go off. You could actually almost make it a, make it a a a damn near an open world where, you know, you've got all these different, different bases that you have to go to. But, yeah, you've got a hundred miles, 86 miles to, for for one and, you know, through the through everything, you've gotta go through the first base and and try to track down the the guy who's gone postal and and investigate why he's going postal, and you could build a whole story and all the background. And, you know, as you're looking, you're coming across more and more and more dead people. You know? You got 80 people that you can kill off in a in in that one, that one base and you know?
So maybe they can try to get to, the closest ice shelf, and maybe that's you have a race to, race a timer or something like that. Yeah. You can come up with a lot of different scenarios. Got got, got puzzles you could fix on and stuff. So, yeah, there's a lot lot to do. You could even even make it a suspense horror.
[02:42:05] Duuude-Ron :
So Right.
[02:42:08] Rich Chelson:
See, dude, you just you just need to let your mind, open up and just let it think.
[02:42:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:42:30] Rich Chelson:
Dude, did you pass out on us? No.
[02:42:33] Unknown:
Okay. So why did the guy go postal?
[02:42:38] Bryan Goodwin:
He barely had issues to begin with. That's what they're making it sound like.
[02:42:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh, or or maybe there are really aliens down there, and they're just not telling us. Yeah. They've got I mean, you know, I hate to you know, freaking robots are gonna take over some days. So
[02:43:04] Unknown:
They are? Yep. AI is gonna take over the world.
[02:43:13] Rich Chelson:
It won't be in our lifetime if it does, though. We can't even get a solid working robot
[02:43:24] Duuude-Ron :
that looks human.
[02:43:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you don't want them to look absolutely human because then we stop trusting them. Well, I The closers that a robot gets to looking human, it hits that uncanny valley and people stop trusting them. When it's just a block, you know, a block of, and with some legs and maybe a couple arms sticking out of it, people are going are more willing to trust that
[02:43:56] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:43:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Than they would, you know, a an Android that look like, you know, c three p o.
[02:44:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, the thing is, either way, I mean I mean, we're never gonna see one in our lifetime. You know? I mean Right. I mean, we've seen the you know, we we won't see the human looking robots or the closer human looking robots. You know what I mean?
[02:44:24] Unknown:
Right.
[02:44:27] Rich Chelson:
Although I think it would be cool. It'd be scary as hell. You know? Because I'd be like, that fucker could rip my head off.
[02:44:38] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:44:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Or, the, I'll get around to, getting getting, you know, AI thanks to, quantum computers actually kicked off. Now that would that would make some people, really, really nervous.
[02:45:03] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. I don't know. It just it just I mean, yeah, it would be cool, but it'd be scary at the same time. You know? And it it just but, yeah, honestly, I don't think I don't think we'll ever see it in our lifetime.
[02:45:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Probably not. No.
[02:45:32] Rich Chelson:
Because, you know, because I would be worried about, okay. What if it got hacked? You know? That'd be the biggest thing because, you know, if they, you know, made robots like that I mean, like the robots that they have now. Right. How are they not getting hacked?
[02:45:55] Bryan Goodwin:
No. They're not connected to the Internet for one. The robots ain't the the robots aren't. No. They're programmed, and they, and then they act on their their programming.
[02:46:13] Rich Chelson:
Oh, but they need updates, don't they?
[02:46:20] Bryan Goodwin:
I would think so. They have new, new, set of instructions. Yeah. You know, they need to connect to a computer.
[02:46:29] Rich Chelson:
See, that's where the you see, that's where I'd be I'd be I'd be worried. Then you'd be sleeping one night and feel something near you, and you wake up, and your robot's right there in your face.
[02:46:49] Bryan Goodwin:
I've been thinking about you, Dave. I don't wanna know what you've been thinking about. No. No. No. No.
[02:46:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, Brian gets that Brian gets that every damn night.
[02:47:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, you know, the dog. He's like Yeah.
[02:47:07] Unknown:
Hello, Dave. What you doing?
[02:47:13] Rich Chelson:
I wanna play. Feed me.
[02:47:16] Unknown:
Yep. Now they do have AI dogs.
[02:47:24] Bryan Goodwin:
What? Yeah. They just Well, now. Kinda they are there. They call them AI, but it's, yeah. But, yep, just little lots of dynamics like the the the the spooky looking dog.
[02:47:42] Unknown:
Yeah. And, Rich, these dogs can fit in your hand.
[02:47:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, you're talking about the other dog itself? Yeah.
[02:47:52] Unknown:
That they have created that is AI. Dogs. Yep.
[02:48:04] Rich Chelson:
That's just crazy.
[02:48:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh.
[02:48:07] Rich Chelson:
What? I mean, you wouldn't have to feed them. Okay. No. You have to charge them out, though. They would so so I couldn't have one because that there would cost electric. Screw that. Yeah. Well, I don't I don't know what's cheaper, electric or Dog food. Food, vet, vet bills, and all this other shit. Okay. It might be cheaper.
[02:48:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Might be.
[02:48:34] Rich Chelson:
Might be more cost effective. Wouldn't have to walk it.
[02:48:43] Unknown:
Nope. Wouldn't have to take outside to take a turd.
[02:48:47] Rich Chelson:
No.
[02:48:49] Unknown:
Especially when it's a downpour and rain.
[02:48:53] Rich Chelson:
Right. Or snowing.
[02:48:55] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:48:58] Rich Chelson:
But but you see, that's the thing, though. If if you know, they you know, if they have these little dogs or whatnot, I mean, what do they act like a dog?
[02:49:12] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:49:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Basically.
[02:49:15] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[02:49:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I mean, as much as a robotic dog can act like a dog.
[02:49:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, okay. It'd just be weird, though, man. Oh, it is.
[02:49:30] Bryan Goodwin:
It's not it's not it's not like, Teddy Ruxpin talking to you type of weird. It's just you know? Yeah.
[02:49:40] Unknown:
Had to bring out deals to Teddy Ruxpin. Because they are so much more realistic. Now me, personally, I'm gonna have a dog. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. I'm not gonna have a Great Dane, but I'll have a dog.
[02:50:07] Bryan Goodwin:
It's just crazy, man. You want a Great Dane. There is the it it's a whole new experience when you wake up and find yourself being spooned by your dog, and you're the little spoon.
[02:50:26] Rich Chelson:
See, that's that's just that's just a whole lot of can't get right.
[02:50:32] Bryan Goodwin:
It it's a it's a I'll I'll give you give it to you. It's not a it's not a it's kind of a weird sensation when you wake up to it. You're like, you got one leg underneath underneath your your neck. You got the other leg over the top of your neck, and and their head's on top of your head. And you're like, why? My wife thinks it's absolutely hilarious.
[02:50:59] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:51:03] Unknown:
Now that dog is not gonna be is gonna be at the foot of the bed.
[02:51:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I mean, you can you can try to say that. You know? I mean, but, doesn't doesn't mean that's gonna happen.
[02:51:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah, that's true because dogs
[02:51:35] Bryan Goodwin:
dogs are gonna lay wherever they wanna lay. Dogs know where the most comfortable place in the house is, and they will take it.
[02:51:44] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:51:48] Bryan Goodwin:
They will more than likely push you out of the bed as they're taking it, but they will take it.
[02:51:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's just, yeah, I don't know. I I just you know? I mean, a regular dog, yeah, that's fine. But, but, yeah, robotic dog, Yeah. Don't think that would work. Besides, they'd they'd want, what, 1,500 $2,000?
[02:52:24] Unknown:
You know, I haven't even heard the cost Yeah. Whatsoever. Haven't heard anything about how much they cost. I've just seen, you know, videos of them, you know, being dogs. And that's, you know, their their mannerism, which is which is actually limited.
[02:52:57] Rich Chelson:
Well, I should have You would think with all the advances, they could make one that was pretty close.
[02:53:06] Unknown:
Yeah. You can think.
[02:53:08] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[02:53:13] Unknown:
Yep. I don't know. Again, I would never own one. If I'm gonna have a dog, it's gonna be real.
[02:53:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[02:53:24] Unknown:
Yep. You know, one that licks his butt and then gives you kisses. Oh, absolutely. Because you know they do.
[02:53:34] Rich Chelson:
Shoot. Because, yeah, nothing says love like licking your butt.
[02:53:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:53:43] Unknown:
And then and then sharing the love.
[02:53:47] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:53:49] Unknown:
But you know what? We all do it. I don't lick my butt, dude. Just saying. No. No. But your but your dog would lick its butt and then give and give you kisses.
[02:54:04] Rich Chelson:
Not on my face, they wouldn't.
[02:54:08] Unknown:
Has a dog ever licked your face?
[02:54:11] Rich Chelson:
Yes.
[02:54:13] Unknown:
Okay. The but they've licked your licked their butt before they licked your face.
[02:54:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, I never saw it. So
[02:54:23] Bryan Goodwin:
So it don't count.
[02:54:25] Rich Chelson:
That's right. Yeah. It don't count.
[02:54:27] Duuude-Ron :
It is right. It don't count.
[02:54:32] Unknown:
And we don't want that proof.
[02:54:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:54:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I def I definitely don't want that proof.
[02:54:42] Unknown:
Now it may have not been ten minutes before you got kissed. It may have been ten hours before you got kissed.
[02:54:50] Rich Chelson:
And I still have no proof.
[02:54:52] Unknown:
But we all guilty of it.
[02:55:00] Rich Chelson:
Oh my gosh.
[02:55:04] Unknown:
So Oh, yeah. Anyhow That was definitely a go for hole we went down on that one.
[02:55:16] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, anyhow so, yeah, it's about, about time for us to start getting our getting this visible old bird landed and and and all that. So couple of us can go hit the hay. The other one, he's he's retired, so, you know, he could stay up all night and sleep all day if he wants.
[02:55:38] Rich Chelson:
I could, but, yeah, I normally don't. Normally don't.
[02:55:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, anyhow, so guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for y'all everyone listening to the show, stopping by, having a listen, seeing what in the world does two grumpy vets and the dude are all about. And, as you can see, it's just us talking. It yeah. We don't really have a I wouldn't really call it a a big purpose. You know? We're not here to change the world so much, but we are here to be for be with and for each other. We are here to, to be able to have a good time laughing up and and just to have a have a couple of hours of just living life with each other. And, granted, we're all three in different parts of The United States. So, yeah, we don't get to see each other physically except for maybe once a year.
And, and so we are, we do this. We jump onto a Zoom meeting, and we we sit around and yabber for about three hours. And and and that's that's what we've done. We've done it, for, for several, several weeks now since, what about, March? I think it's when we started.
[02:56:59] Duuude-Ron :
No. It was April. It's April. So we're coming up on the first year. So Yeah.
[02:57:05] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, we are just about hitting our about just about there and hitting our our fifty second episode. So so, yeah, it's a it's been a, it's been a fun time. It's been a great, great experience and and excited to have even even more, discussions about, things that annoy us or things that we find fascinating or whether or not the, the scientists down in Antarctica are all gonna get killed by the maniac or not. You know? So just, just to sit back and watch and see what this is all about is just kind of a, kind of a fascinating ordeal.
So but, but, yeah, we are a show that is a value for value show. We don't go about asking for you to buy a a mattress or set of, set of glasses or or underwear or anything like that. We actually would rather you just decide what this show is worth. Is, you know, listening in, is it is it worth, a buck? Okay. Is it worth a thousand bucks? Okay. You are you set the value. We've taken the time and the effort to get together and and and talk about what we find fascinating this week and and what our reminiscence are about and and all that. And so we we get to do that. And as a means of sharing with you, if you find that there's any value in this, then, again, share it. Let us know what you think about, about the, three, two grumpy vets and dude numbers. Almost gonna say three three grumpy vets. That was a that's a title we haven't done in a long, long while.
But it is the the the show that we that we're doing, like I said, is a value for value. And the value is not necessarily money. I mean, money does help because that pays for hosting because, sadly, for whatever reason, I have yet to be able to get the hosting company to accept a a smile and a you're cool, dude, thumbs up type of type of action. They just seem to go, no. We need need cash. So we we pay the, we pay the the the bill, and on we go. Actually, Rich pays the bill and on we go. And
[02:59:40] Duuude-Ron :
we
[02:59:43] Bryan Goodwin:
we do it and, again, like I said, so that we can have a the moment the ability to actually spend time with each other. But the some of the other values that you can actually make or take from the, from the show is we are a time, talent, or treasure type of show. That is you can spend, your treasure, which is, you know, Fiat Bucks, and go to to any of the modern podcasting apps out there like Fountain or True Fans. You can actually, go there, and there's a support button. You can hit the support button. It'll bring a PayPal account, and you can actually choose to do a onetime donation or reoccurring donation to the show and and help us out in any way possible. If you are like us, like we are from time to time, kind of a broke person, so, you know, maybe money isn't the way that you could actually help. You can also provide, time so you could set up chapter, set up the chapter for the, for the chapter sequences and, and be able to help that way. Or you might be able to help in some other way. Maybe you've come up with an idea of, we need a better website, and you wanna go ahead and sponsor the website. Great. Awesome. Just put the put it together. You can you can run the website for us, and we're not gonna throw too much of a fit about it because there's no reason for us to throw too much of a fit about it.
But then again, you can fitness. Exactly. But, again, you can also, I'll provide your talent. So if you are good at, we use talk about graphic artists all the time because, well, I'm not a very good graphic artist. And Neither am I. And and and neither is neither is Rich. And we, we we do what we can, but, you know, I'm sure y'all have probably seen our our our cover art and gone, wow. These guys really need some help. Well, come on over. Help us out. Design a, the cover art for us or design the, design the chapter art for us, and and let us know what, what you've chosen. And we can it's not just one person. If y'all if everybody who listens to that, hey. I'd like to do some chapter art. Well, okay. Great. Awesome. Do us square, you know, 1,500 by 1,500 to 3,000 by 3,000 JPEG image of whatever whatever you wanna do that may relate to what we talked about on the show. And we will sit around, and we'll look at them and decide which one we like, which one we don't like. And and, and we could use that. There's a lot of different ways that we can actually utilize, the the chapter art and the and the the cover art and the episodic cover art and all the other types of cover art.
And so we can do that all thanks to those who donate the time, the talent, and or their treasure. So you we have offered are able to offer this so that we don't have to cut into the middle of our conversation with an ad that you don't care to hear. Because I know I don't I granted, I need a new mattress, but I'm not planning on spending a thousand dollars on a on a memory foam mattress because I know my luck. That thing will develop Alzheimer's to a year and a half in, and I'll be laying on the ground. So it's not gonna do me any good to have a to have a a memory foam mattress. I'm I need a box spring with with a mattress and springs. Now that's what we have right now, and the problem is is that our mattress is 20 years old, I believe. And so, yeah, the springs are starting to starting to work their way through and focus in the in the back and things like that, and it's not becoming very it's not all that comfortable. So but, anyhow so, yeah, we'd love to be able to, to keep the show going. And and everybody who listens, we are grateful and and and and tickled pink that y'all keep coming by. And if you have any comments or questions or anything like that, please shoot me an email over at, [email protected], or you can get ahold of Rich over at r Chelsea, that's chels0n,@Gmail.com also. So with that, we'll throw it on over to Rich and let him throw his last words in.
[03:04:26] Rich Chelson:
I just wanna say, thanks to everyone who who keeps coming back and listening. Shoot. It seems like we're getting more and more people listening. It's just it's crazy. Sometimes it's hit and miss, and then other times we got, quite a few, you know, hitting every week. So tell your friends, tell your family, tell your loved ones. We don't care. You know, and like like Brian was saying, reach out to us. Tell us what you wanna hear. You know? Give us a a a topic or something to discuss. You wanna hear, two grumpy vets and a dude discuss?
You know? I mean, you've obviously heard some of our podcasts or all of them. You know we can go down the the gopher holes and beat the horse dead into the ground, bring him back up and do it again in the same night. So, you know, send us an email, [email protected] or [email protected], and, you know, we would love to read your question and answer it on the air. If you wanna reach out to dude, just send an email to myself or Brian, and, we will definitely get it to the dude. And, we can hear his pearls of wisdom.
Like, you know, it is better to use regular toilet paper than sandpaper is toilet paper. Yeah. And and, yeah, and if you made it this far in the podcast, you heard that discussion. So, yeah, that's just a little taste of what we can do. But, yeah, we've been doing this almost a year, and, it's it's it's awesome, man. And, we, we plan to keep going and everything like this, and we're just gonna see what happens and goes on. So other than that, thanks for listening. Share it out. Send us an email, and, you know, we'd love to hear from you and talk to you. So, dude, what you got, man?
[03:06:37] Unknown:
You know, again, like Brian and Rich says, everybody, thank you very much for listening and to our rhetoric on such a variety of topics that we go through each week. And, yes, we would love to hear hear your thoughts and hear your questions. Because, again, we can, discuss anything that you guys wanna ask us about and right, wrong, or indifference, so you'll definitely get our opinions. Absolutely. Always. So so that's all I got.
[03:07:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. So, again, everybody, appreciate y'all coming over, having a listen. We'll see y'all on next, next Thursday, 07:00. And, also, with a something I forgot to mention is that this show is actually streamed live every, every week. If you have a modern podcast app, you will get a, you'll get a notification on, on your, on your app. So, like, fountain or, True Fans or podcast guru, you'll be told, hey. Within ninety seconds of us turning on the bat signal, you'll get an you'll get a notice that that we're live, and you can opt in, and you can actually listen to us live and and make comments, shoot us the emails while we're while we're talking. And we'll we'll reply to it as we as we receive them. So there's a lot of different ways you can, you can do this. So with that, guys, wanna say thanks again for, for coming on and, allowing us to allowing me to have a good time talking with, with you, Rich, and and Ron. And, guys, thanks again for, for the show. Thanks again for all the good times, the laughs, and the thoughts, and all that. So, we will see y'all next week.
Till then. Bye. Peace.
[03:08:45] Unknown:
Peace out.
[03:08:47] Rich Chelson:
Later, guys. Later, guys. Be careful. Absolutely.
[03:08:51] Unknown:
Yep.
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
Mister Brian. Hello.
[00:00:36] Duuude-Ron :
And how are you?
[00:00:37] Rich Chelson:
Not too bad. How are you doing?
[00:00:39] Duuude-Ron :
Doing good. Just almost, almost over to, where I'm stopping for the night. So Okay. Had to get a had to get a windshield, changed because I had, had a couple rock chips and that the the hard cold that we had all last month that actually caused the, caused the the crack to go all the way across the, the windshield. So
[00:01:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's a bummer. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:01:09] Duuude-Ron :
I was like, yeah. We don't really need to get our sole ticket on that. So so get that changed.
[00:01:15] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Well, that's good. That's good. It'll, like, you know, at least he, you know, didn't make you go on with it.
[00:01:23] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. So
[00:01:26] Rich Chelson:
And I bet having a new glass
[00:01:29] Bryan Goodwin:
makes it, nicer to see again. Oh, yeah. Don't have the sun glinting off the crack into my eye. I'm like, ugh.
[00:01:36] Rich Chelson:
So Yeah. That was yeah. I was saying when I drove, a lot of the trucks I drove, they were sand pitted.
[00:01:44] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, gotcha.
[00:01:45] Rich Chelson:
That was just driving through dust, you know, windstorms, and it just it wreaks havoc on a big truck windshield. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. Back in the day, trying to get a windshield, you know, man. I could get a set of a drive tires a lot easier than I could get a windshield. I mean yeah. It yeah. I've made trying to drive in, you know, in the rising or setting sun a challenge.
[00:02:20] Duuude-Ron :
They do. Yeah. I've had, especially with, trucks for, for sandstone when I drive down late.
[00:02:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Those,
[00:02:29] Duuude-Ron :
those those windshields would be so sand pitted and and stuff. The sun had hit it just right. Yeah. It was just like, yep. Okay. We're taking a head out the window because that's the only way I'm seeing.
[00:02:41] Unknown:
That's
[00:02:42] Rich Chelson:
right. Right. And, yeah, especially, you know, out there in the oil fields and stuff like that. I mean, windshields are are your most vital piece of equipment, really. Oh, yeah. You know? But yeah. No. It was, yeah, it was always like pulling teeth. And anytime I ever got a new windshield, oh my god. It was great. And and you see, that's the thing. I drove Pete's. So Pete's the older Pete's had the dual windshield. It didn't have a single. And so
[00:03:19] Duuude-Ron :
they have rubber out of the top of the of the windshield, pull that one out, and set another one in.
[00:03:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but you see, they would only wanna change one side.
[00:03:28] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:03:29] Rich Chelson:
It's like, no. No. Because the right side, when that sun is at an angle to you, oh my god. Like a fucking magnifying glass burning your retinas.
[00:03:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:03:44] Rich Chelson:
You know? It's like, no. Change both of them. God has too much money. Oh my god. I'm gonna go fucking broke. Change of fucking both of them.
[00:03:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I gotta my friend John, he he talks about he has talked a couple of times. He's got had a, guy that, he, he actually kept he would go to the go to the junkyard and go to the and and go pull out, good windshields out of, out of wrecked peaks and stuff. And he would've he had, like, five, six, seven of them sitting there, stored away. And so if something happened to one of his windshields, he would just okay. He'd whip that rubber out, pop that one, that old, window out, put a new one in. And he said he'd be in fifteen minutes. He'd be, he'd be have a new window in a newer window.
[00:04:38] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. You know, I mean I mean, you know me. I'm I'm cheap anyway. You know? I mean, you know, when when I was, you know, younger, I god. I was you know, I could squeeze a fucking penny and get change. But, you know, but, you know, back in the day, it's like, you know, the prices that, that, we paid back in the day versus the money that was being made, people were stingy. Really stingy. Because I mean I mean, shoot. You know, if well, as a driver, you know, I was steadily bringing home $1,200 a week. That was my pay at at 25¢ a mile.
Okay? How much money was that truck making? It was making an ass load, dude, because that was back when freight was, actually, paying a pretty good price. But, yeah, all these all these trucking companies, you know, acted like, oh my god. You were taking money out of their baby's mouths. You know? Did you fall asleep on me? Okay. I know I didn't do anything. Oh, we lost Brian. We got started and was talking, and he's back.
[00:06:31] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I get heck. I didn't realize I had that many dead spots between Blair and, and Alphys. I'm probably drop you again down to one bar again.
[00:06:41] Rich Chelson:
Well, it was, yeah, it was funny. It was I was sitting there talking. I didn't hear anything, and I can still see you. And I'm like, Brian, did we lose you? I didn't hear no answer. And then all of a sudden, you dropped out. I said, yeah. I guess we did.
[00:06:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Well, I was the same way. I was, like, talking way about blah blah, and I didn't hear any reply. I was like, nope. Did I lose you? And about that time, I looked down and started connecting. He's like, no. You lost me.
[00:07:10] Rich Chelson:
So Yeah. I was gonna say now we're back at the two bars. Yeah. I was gonna say, I'm at home. I shouldn't lose you. You know? I mean, I'm not saying that it can't happen.
[00:07:26] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:07:26] Rich Chelson:
You know? But, yeah, it's it's it's highly unlikely.
[00:07:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. For whatever reason, boy, we've got a I've I've got an issue at the house where, if we're talking on the phone, I will get cellular Chinese, to somebody every almost every time I talk to them. And then yada yada yada yada. And all of a sudden, they're like, yeah. I didn't understand any of that. You you, you were letting out. Okay. Which services? Verizon.
[00:07:59] Rich Chelson:
It could be something with the tower because I noticed when I lived up in Northern Missouri, that would happen, often Oh, yeah. You know? It would just it would just all of a sudden, you know, either I wouldn't hear what the other person was saying or they couldn't hear what I was saying. Yeah. You know? But, I mean, since I've been down here, I haven't had no problems.
[00:08:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And I've you know, I've thought, okay. Well, it could be let's go ahead and let's make sure we do, call over Wi Fi. That way, we can do some voice over IP. And I would hook that up and and get that all going, and still, nope. It would be talking all of a sudden. It'd go go say you're in Chinese. And I'm like, alright. So, like, when I'm talking to my wife, I've gotten around to where I just turn on, just do FaceTime because that way it goes, full it goes to, it's gonna be over the best, yeah, Internet connection that it has. Yeah.
And so, yeah, we can talk just fine that way. I mean, we'll be driving down the road and talking with her and and stuff, so she'll see me bouncing all over the place in the truck. But
[00:09:10] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:09:13] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I mean I mean, she's seen you bounce before. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. I bounced off and bounced off the door facings and everything else. So
[00:09:23] Unknown:
That would hurt.
[00:09:25] Duuude-Ron :
I do it all the time. I'll go of course, it also, doesn't help that I've got, whenever I try to go through a door, I've got two of the dogs inside. Oh, hey. Let's all go through it at the same time. So Right. Right. So, yeah, I bounce off doors, door facings. Sometimes I don't get my big feet out of the way and bounce, you know, bounce door off my off my toe. So, yeah, I'm I do a lot of a lot of bouncing.
[00:09:55] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wow. You know? That that I'm glad I don't bounce like that. Yeah.
[00:10:04] Duuude-Ron :
But Long as it doesn't leave a mark, I'm okay. Well, what happens if it leaves a mark? Well, I'm gonna have to sit there and cry about it because I'm gonna It's it's.
[00:10:22] Rich Chelson:
Is what? It's. Right. Right. No.
[00:10:31] Duuude-Ron :
Anyhow, so what's been happening in your world?
[00:10:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, not too much. I did I did, go and do, POTA the other day. Okay. So that was a lot of fun. Tried out another antenna I I made.
[00:10:54] Unknown:
So It works pretty good for you?
[00:10:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. It it it it it it actually worked, fairly well. I saw it. Well, it was it's it's another random wire, but it's shorter, right, than than the one that I've got up in my backyard.
[00:11:16] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[00:11:17] Rich Chelson:
And, yeah, I ran it. And, I gotta say, I I actually did, pretty good. Got some good reports. Even made even made a contact on 20 meters to another ham in Northern Mississippi. Oh, there you go. Which and and and you see, that's the thing. That's rare. That's very rare, you know, because it's, you know, such a short
[00:11:46] Duuude-Ron :
hop. Yeah. Where I'm at? Short bounce. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:11:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but yeah. No. It was it was actually cool because when I heard it and he, and and I had seen the call before because he's a contester because he's been in some of the same contests that that, you know, I've been in. Right. And and this man I mean, by numbers, I could never keep up with him.
[00:12:17] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, is he one of those that just got it down to a science?
[00:12:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. And I you know, that's fine. You know? I don't care, but, you know, it's just, you know, it's just the fact that I heard his call. And when when I found out he was in Mississippi, I was like I was like, that's that's freaking crazy, especially during the day, middle of the day on 20 meters. You know? It's like, no. That's technically, that's not supposed to work, but it did. You know?
[00:12:47] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Just have me hitting it just right.
[00:12:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean I mean, I'm I'm I must have been holding my mouse right or something. Something. Yeah. But, yeah, I did I did that, and, I just, you know, kinda worked on my, ham radio station today. Made some changes and stuff and and just been, I don't know, just been oh, I mowed my lawn. I mowed my lawn, yesterday. Well, I didn't get all of it mowed. I mowed as much as I could because my ground is still so wet. I now have ruts in my backyard. And and I've got, I would say, probably a good 35 by 60 foot rectangle that I can't mow yet because I still have standing water back there.
[00:13:51] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, you could tile your yard.
[00:13:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But and and I've been thinking about that, but trying to figure out where I'm gonna outlet it at because I've got I've got no other I've got I've got no place to, outlet it at, and that part of the backyard actually sits lower than the rest of the yard. So so I you you don't know. No. I've I've thought about tiling it. Okay? I really have. But I'm just
[00:14:30] Duuude-Ron :
the the the law of physics is just not there right now. With you. It's just not in your corner today. It's not. I'm dead right now. So how'd you, how'd you fare against all the weather? We didn't get none. You didn't get nothing even though you had had had watches going?
[00:14:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. We had watches and shit. But
[00:14:53] Duuude-Ron :
No excitement whatsoever,
[00:14:54] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. About, three quarters of of an inch of rain, which swamped my yard again. Right. That was it. That was it out of out of all that stuff. So, yeah, I mean, I was I was actually kinda shocked because, yeah, they was calling for, you know, tornado, high winds, all this stuff. Uh-uh.
[00:15:22] Duuude-Ron :
No. We didn't. Yeah. Oh, that was just a blatant run of the red light there, buddy.
[00:15:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But he was in a hurry.
[00:15:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. He thought I think he thought he could sneak behind the behind that, semi truck that was, that was halfway through the the turn when it changed. So Oh, okay. Which is, not smart considering the police station was right beside him.
[00:15:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:15:52] Duuude-Ron :
But some people are some people are braver than I am. I'm just a chicken.
[00:15:56] Rich Chelson:
Hey. I'd be a chicken too because that would cost me money. Yeah. It would.
[00:16:02] Duuude-Ron :
I always eat a lot of money.
[00:16:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, yeah, other than that is yeah. As far as the weather, we really ain't had nothing to really talk about. Well So
[00:16:23] Duuude-Ron :
k. And mister mister dude showed up. So how are you holding up today, sir?
[00:16:30] Unknown:
What's what's going on, you, rainbow colored mohawk unicorn?
[00:16:38] Rich Chelson:
Rainbow colored mohawk unicorn.
[00:16:43] Duuude-Ron :
At least we're slightly punkish.
[00:16:47] Unknown:
There you go.
[00:16:49] Duuude-Ron :
So John, listen to any, any punk rock music? No. Good punk rock music of eighties?
[00:16:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Do, Devo?
[00:17:00] Duuude-Ron :
No. That would've been considered punk rock, but okay.
[00:17:04] Unknown:
Okay. So what do you consider punk rock of the AEs?
[00:17:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Dead Kennedys,
[00:17:12] Duuude-Ron :
Sex Pistols? Nope. Groups like that?
[00:17:16] Unknown:
Yeah. No. No. Thank you.
[00:17:19] Duuude-Ron :
No holiday in Cambodia?
[00:17:23] Unknown:
Holiday in Cambodia? No. No. No. So, you know, Rich, I have a suggestion for you on your yard. Get a squeegee get a squeegee and start pushing it, you know, out onto the street or you know? Yeah. But just squeegee your lawn and get rid of the water.
[00:17:47] Rich Chelson:
All the way from the backyard? That wouldn't
[00:17:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Are you getting exercise?
[00:17:53] Unknown:
That would definitely get you some exercise.
[00:17:56] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. That would find Or instead of using for a week.
[00:18:01] Unknown:
Instead of well, instead of using a squeegee, just get a square, you know, shovel and start just, you know, picking it up and throw it in in different areas in the yard. Water the grass.
[00:18:13] Duuude-Ron :
Water the grass. My manual.
[00:18:15] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Okay. What what I forgot to mention is that even though I've got water standing in this back section of my yard, the rest of my yard, when I walk across it I mean, it it might not be as bad today. But but when I was mowing, I was still squishing water up Yeah. I when I was mowing in my backyard.
[00:18:39] Duuude-Ron :
Man, that's that is some sandy soil right there.
[00:18:44] Rich Chelson:
My ground is so freaking saturated right now. It is on fucking real.
[00:18:53] Duuude-Ron :
I wonder if it would work if you were to take and have, like, a, make a hole in the low area and make it low enough for a for a sump pump, but also have some holes in there so the groundwater kinda is naturally drawn to the to the to the cavity there. And then just sump pump, you know, water up and out and water your front yard trees or whatever.
[00:19:24] Rich Chelson:
You know, I I just I hadn't thought about. You know?
[00:19:31] Unknown:
Or you can just, sump it out and use it for drinking water into your water bill. Your water bill wants to be so big.
[00:19:41] Rich Chelson:
Oh, the water bill, I'm not worried about. It's my freaking electric bill. I mean, man, this month is doing so far, this month is, is, doing so well. Is I mean, is honestly, it's, doing good. So
[00:20:00] Unknown:
well, that's good.
[00:20:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know. I don't know. I was much aware. So, yeah, I I I've been sitting, sitting right at, peak temperature, haven't you?
[00:20:12] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean peak temperature? Well,
[00:20:14] Duuude-Ron :
June, it's, Goldilocks temperature. It's not too hot. It's not too cold. It's just right.
[00:20:22] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well well, it's supposed to be cold tonight, but, I mean, that's fine. Oh, y'all gotta hear this. Apparently, last night, right, after we jumped off the call, I I I was watching TV, took my pills because I I was late taking my pills. And so I took my pills, and it was getting late. And I went outside and smoked cigarette. Right? Came in. It's like, okay. I'm done. And, shut the door, locked it, and, stayed up for a little longer, and then said, okay. I'm going to bed. Went to bed, passed the fuck out. Woke up this morning. Oh my god.
I was freezing my ass off. I freaking get up. My front door is wide the fuck open. Uh-oh. I was like, what the fuck? I walked over and checked. It was locked.
[00:21:21] Duuude-Ron :
I just didn't get it closed open. Oh, you just didn't get a latch. Oh, okay. Yeah.
[00:21:26] Rich Chelson:
I mean, no. No. Not and and I don't know how long it had been like that, you know, because I mean I mean, the winds were picked up this morning. I mean, the winds have been blowing like hell all day. But, yeah, the wind the wind freaking blew my door open. Yeah. The, yeah, the handle was locked, but that door was wide the hell open. Oh, wow. I'm like, wow. That's no wonder why it's chilly. So I I closed it, and I'm like, okay. Well, we're good. But, yeah, nothing was charged. I mean, I live in a very quiet neighborhood.
[00:22:06] Duuude-Ron :
So Right.
[00:22:10] Rich Chelson:
So it's it's I mean, yeah, I mean, we have cops running up and down the road all the time. So I don't worry too much about what what happens in my neighborhood.
[00:22:25] Unknown:
Now, however, did you lock the did you lock the screen door as well?
[00:22:30] Rich Chelson:
I don't I don't have a screen door.
[00:22:34] Unknown:
That was just being facetious.
[00:22:38] Duuude-Ron :
What Well, you know, what if you're trying to
[00:22:42] Unknown:
What what is the use of a lock on a screen door?
[00:22:47] Duuude-Ron :
To keep it from blowing open? That's about it. Maybe. And Yeah. I mean, that's why we had of course, we had a we had storm doors. So, I mean, it was it's like a screen door except it, it was it all it was it had desktop technology, which, I mean, I don't know what that's supposed to mean other than I probably really need it at my house. But, but it, it was, kinda like a screen door, but not a screen door because there was just a little strip of screen that,
[00:23:20] Unknown:
got kind of the middle of the of the door. Yeah. We we had the same thing. You had a metal bottom. You had a window that you could break that you could slide up. Slide up. Yeah. Yep. And that had the screen, and the third top portion
[00:23:38] Duuude-Ron :
was a pane of glass. Pane of glass. Yeah. And, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And, yeah, it it worked good. I mean, you weren't gonna not an actual screen door that, you know, like grandma has that you're not supposed to slam. You know? And I've never known any of those to have a to have a, have a lock on them. I mean, they just usually just have a handle, a little hook to keep the wind from blowing them open. But and maybe y'all young old enough to know what I that reference was would too about grandma didn't want you to slam the screen door. Kids these days don't understand that because they really don't do screen doors anymore.
So No.
[00:24:22] Unknown:
No. I'm kinda lost at that reference.
[00:24:25] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, that's what everybody would holler. You know? You go outside as a little kid, you'd you would open the door. Well, she'd have the front door open, and this the screen door was there just so that, you know, got a little breeze balling through. But as a kid, you'd go and you'd run and pass through that screen door, go outside, and you'd hear always hear grandma go, don't slam the screen door.
[00:24:48] Rich Chelson:
Nope. I've heard that many times. Many times. Oh, yeah.
[00:24:55] Duuude-Ron :
I don't need to not slam the screen door as the screen door slammed. And and you see back in the day, they had the wooden screen doors. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My mom still her house still has a wooden screen door.
[00:25:08] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:25:10] Unknown:
You know? And I don't remember that as a kid, but, of course, hell, I don't remember what the hell I had for dinner last night either.
[00:25:22] Rich Chelson:
I remember the wooden screen doors. In fact, over here at these little apartments right next door to me, oh, Ray. He's the loudest guy over there. He's a cool guy, but, he he has one of them wooden screen doors on the front of his little apartment. Oh, really? And, yeah, when, when he walks out, he just walks out and it slams shut, and it there's that sound of a wooden screen door is just takes you back. Every time I hear it, it it takes you back.
[00:26:04] Duuude-Ron :
Absolutely.
[00:26:06] Rich Chelson:
You know? And and sometimes I hear it, you know, ten, fifteen times a day. And and every time, it's just I think back to, you know, back in the day.
[00:26:19] Duuude-Ron :
Ben yelled at, don't slam a clear door.
[00:26:22] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:26:25] Unknown:
So that must've been one of those that had when you opened it, it had a spring to bring it back closed. Right? Yep. Mhmm. Okay.
[00:26:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, god. Yeah. Because you couldn't let the flies or the Skeeters in. Oh, hell no. You you would really get get your ass busted for that.
[00:26:46] Unknown:
Nope. Can't say that I remember a full screen wooden framed door on any of any of the houses that I ever lived in or relatives. But we did have the the screen doors or the, the one that I just described. I had those on my house. But, of course, we had one of those, hydraulic plungers that would bring back the door and shut it. Yeah.
[00:27:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That, yeah, that was on the, metal doors.
[00:27:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's what we had.
[00:27:23] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And that's I mean I mean, that's that's normal, you know you know, especially if people had them, metal doors and everything. But, yeah, I was raised up where everybody had a wooden screen door.
[00:27:42] Unknown:
So
[00:27:44] Rich Chelson:
oh, yeah. That was I mean, shoot. Grandma and grandpa had one. Mom and dad had one. And, I mean, every house we lived in when I was a kid, we we had a screen door, a wooden screen door.
[00:27:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:27:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I think all of my relatives had the, the one that I described, if I remember correctly.
[00:28:08] Rich Chelson:
The metal one?
[00:28:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. That's what everybody in my family had.
[00:28:15] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. I mean, we was just raised on them, and don't you dare tear that that that screen. Oh my god. You thought that screen was was, you know, like, spending a half a million dollars.
[00:28:32] Unknown:
Or, yeah, or trying we're trying to remake it out of a gold thread, pure gold thread.
[00:28:39] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. It's like, oh my god. It's a screen. You can go to hardware store and get a whole roll for $2. It's not that cheap anymore. But
[00:28:50] Unknown:
Well, $2 back then. Well, well, shit. $2 back then was fucking expensive.
[00:28:56] Rich Chelson:
Right. But still, you know, I mean I mean, dude, I could collect 20 pop bottles and get $2.
[00:29:08] Unknown:
Well yeah.
[00:29:10] Rich Chelson:
So, you know, I I was like I was like, what's the big deal? Just fucking go get some pop bottles. You know? Hey. Shoot. Shoot. Us us kids would run around town, and we'd go pick up every pot bottle we saw. And, I mean I mean, we'd spend the first half of the morning going around town picking up all the glass bottles and all like that. I'm taking them down to the grocery store right there. It still had wooden floors and turning bottles in.
[00:29:52] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. That creaked beautiful. Yep. Yep. And And I bet you you can still smell it too, can't you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[00:30:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was yeah. It was awesome. And, yeah, we'd we'd turn the bottles in, get get 10¢ apiece, and by god, we loaded up on candy for the day, and then we went and played ball. That was livid, man. That was fucking livid.
[00:30:22] Duuude-Ron :
That was how you made a living as a as a as a kid under the ages, under the age of 18.
[00:30:31] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:30:32] Duuude-Ron :
Right? Under the age of 15.
[00:30:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Because at 16, you could actually go out and get a real job.
[00:30:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's the only thing. Unless you work for, for Farmer Brown, then pretty much about 13 is when. Well, yes. Same way with the hey.
[00:30:51] Unknown:
Same way with the paper route too. But nobody nobody these days would even have a fucking clue about that. Oh, heck no. No. God. Paper route route sucked.
[00:31:04] Duuude-Ron :
Jan, I knew those things were hard because, yeah, For us, we had to get up at, the papers would be dropped off over at all steps at, at 02:30. And so I would have to get up with my stepmom, and we'd go go because she's actually the one who did the, paper out. And so I'd get up have to get up with her and go grab the two or three bundles of, of newspapers depending on which day it was. And and, granted, they only did it, I think, twice. There for a while, it was twice a week, and then it went down to once a week. Well, now because you did twice because Wednesdays was, when a little was a little special, advertising, newspaper deal. And so you have to order those. And so depending on where was it wet outside or not wet outside? Were you gonna have to were you gonna have to wrap plastic or not plastic? And, I mean, I know you had to put because, you know, we'd fold it in thirds, fold it in half, and that was small enough to slide it through through the deal and throw the newspaper or throw the rubber band on, but it's still it's still Or or get it real tight.
[00:32:19] Unknown:
And that way, you could have a good real good, you know, stick to hit the door and wake up the patron. Now they don't they now they just freaking barely hit the side of the driveway. Right. They don't even fucking come up to the door. Because I got, an elderly lady that lives right across from me, and she still gets the paper. And they just drop it off at, you know, the slant of her driveway right before the street. Oh. I'm like Nice. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, why can't you just fucking toss the thing up on the fucking patio? Ain't that damn large? Point.
Oh, no. You're right. They don't. Uh-huh. Well, how many people do you actually know these days that actually fucking get a paper every day?
[00:33:19] Rich Chelson:
Not many. I
[00:33:20] Unknown:
know one. My neighbor across the street. Because I see it every morning when I go to work laying there in the driveway. I think, she's in her early or mid nineties.
[00:33:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:33:45] Unknown:
Yep. I mean, she still drives and, you know, something like that.
[00:33:51] Duuude-Ron :
Still has all her original marbles.
[00:33:55] Unknown:
Yep. In their original colors. Exactly. So, yeah, my you asked me about my day. Wonderfully going up to Abilene like I do every Thursday now. So and they just got a new plant manager, Monday, I think. Because the other guy, you know, put in his two weeks notice, and that was about, oh, close to a month ago, he left.
[00:34:36] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, wow.
[00:34:37] Unknown:
But, of course, that guy was talking to him was like talking to my, my walls.
[00:34:48] Duuude-Ron :
And didn't get much response.
[00:34:50] Unknown:
Didn't get much response and did and nothing that I said got absorbed between his ears ever. He always looked at me, you know, oh, here's a good one. And I've only seen it, and I've been with their or my company now for fifteen over fifteen years. This is only the second time. Well, I've seen two cylinders before, and then, of course, these guys had two cylinders today that had, labels that get put on the cylinder that was in Spanish. So the last time those were filled were in Mexico.
[00:35:41] Duuude-Ron :
I should've taken a picture of them and sent it to you. Oh, heck. Yeah. That would've been, something else to see right there.
[00:35:47] Unknown:
Yep. I should have taken a picture, but I didn't. But, yeah, they were, yep. Everything was in Spanish
[00:35:58] Duuude-Ron :
except for the not DOT approved.
[00:36:03] Unknown:
Yeah. No. They were far from DOT approved. Yeah. But this is only the second time or third time because there was two cylinders, so I've seen a total of four that had Mexican labels on them product labels. I was like, damn. And this far and this far north? Well, I will.
[00:36:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's a that's kind of a rare thing to see, especially that far. I mean, granted, we are it is Texas, but at the same time, yeah, that's a usually don't see see quite that, that many, that far up. I mean, we get a lot of starting to see a lot of a lot of people would use, Mexican drywall. And from what everybody says, that's some really good stuff right there. Panalo Panalo Rey. Really? Yeah. Is it more dense that I take it than what? I think so. I haven't actually messed with it at all, so I don't fully know. I just know that it comes up in Mexico.
[00:37:19] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, the ones that I have seen on, TV have, like, about, oh, four or six sheets on the bottom that are a % intact. Then you have about 10 sheets that have about o three inches left, like a wood screen door, and then about o six full sheets that haven't been tampered with, and that's how they're bringing drugs in.
[00:37:55] Duuude-Ron :
So they, you know, build a cavity within the stack. Yeah. Put a cavity in there and stuff everything in there. Yeah.
[00:38:05] Unknown:
Yep. Oh, and I saw, and I don't know when this was, the the Coast Guard where the hell was it? It was in International Water someplace, pulled off of a, shipping vessel. $500,000,000 worth of cocaine
[00:38:31] Duuude-Ron :
headed for The United States. Because I'm wondering who's gonna get to it. How hell or how?
[00:38:39] Unknown:
Yeah. They said it was, like, Two and a half tons, but 505 worth of cocaine. Yeah. Someone
[00:38:54] Duuude-Ron :
was not going to be around much longer. You tell I can guarantee you the, the boss of of that cartel was going, alright. Who was the mastermind behind that shipper? Oh, okay. Guess who's not around? He he's fired with a gun. Yeah. Yep.
[00:39:14] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[00:39:17] Unknown:
Don't fuck with their drugs.
[00:39:21] Duuude-Ron :
Because that's fucking with their money. No. She's gonna mess with her mom.
[00:39:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, God did make the poppy seed. So Well, Brian muted himself. You there, Rich?
[00:39:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm here.
[00:39:48] Unknown:
Okay. So Brian's probably Brian's probably talking away and not even knowing nothing's even coming through. Nope. Nope. I'm I'm
[00:39:58] Duuude-Ron :
I was trying to the guy next to me, he's got his, his, his APU running, and so I was I was trying to get in. But at the same time, I got a little close, so I'm at his mirror. And I was, like, going, some guy. Let's see what we could do here. I'm trying to calm my way in. So
[00:40:19] Unknown:
Are you already parked? Yeah. Yeah. I'm parked. Okay. Alright.
[00:40:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, I just said, Chuck, stop talking because I because I heard it echo.
[00:40:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Ran back. I wanna wash my hands.
[00:40:36] Rich Chelson:
Now why would you go do something like that?
[00:40:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, just because I don't like eating with with dirty hands.
[00:40:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[00:40:45] Unknown:
Did you also take a shower in the sink as while you're there?
[00:40:49] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. I am I I I can't I can't do that. I'm like, yeah. No. No. We I see guys who sat there and kept their hand underneath the faucet. I'm going, dude, I just watched the dude blow his nose in that sink. Just two people before you, and you're sitting there drinking out of it. So, yeah. No. I ain't touching shit. So
[00:41:15] Unknown:
Yeah. And and the guy before that was washing his ass.
[00:41:19] Duuude-Ron :
Probably. Yeah. Probably. I'm sorry, but there's a lot of real I mean, I see a lot of truckers who they drive drive some really nice, rigs. They keep the insides clean and and all that. Yeah. No. No. I couldn't, for for those that that are there, I do not see we have so many just dirtbag truckers too. I mean, I'm not just talking about the, and I'm not I'm not talking about just gross or or just kinda, you know, road dirty type of, type of, of, disgusting. I'm talking we got some guys who actually will have been known to cut holes in the floorboards of their sleeper, so they have a place to shit.
[00:42:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That's been going on for for Long time. Thirty years.
[00:42:22] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[00:42:23] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I was I was fucking hearing about that when I was driving truck dealerships and, Freightliner, places, beats. And if Yep. If, one of them trucks rolled in, they refused to work on it.
[00:42:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And it was just wrong with it. Yeah. It hit the it hit the, drop shaft and gets slung everywhere.
[00:42:47] Unknown:
Oh, okay. I I was curious that that it was it hitting the transmission or what it was hitting? Yeah.
[00:42:57] Rich Chelson:
It was well, I mean, what it whatever it was hitting, it was nasty. Yeah. And and, I mean, I get it. That's fine. I wouldn't work on something like that.
[00:43:08] Unknown:
Nope. That's just fucking disgusting.
[00:43:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It is. But but you see, that's the thing. You know? A lot of these people come over from different countries and, you know, this is the way they they grew up. And you would think that, you know, it's like, hey. We have, you know, bathrooms, but, you know, people, I guess, thought, oh, we'll just cut a hole so so we don't have to stop driving.
[00:43:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Don't have to stop driving. Don't have to stop stop at at all. And, I mean, it's bad enough. I mean, I've got a I've got a bucket that's that serves dual purpose. So but I still I'll put a I'll I'll put a double line, trash bags in just, when I have to do that.
[00:44:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But, yeah, but you only use it in emergencies. Right?
[00:44:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. Yeah. No. That's that's one of those where I'm, you know, I'm stopped at the, stopped for the night, and I'm on the, like, on a on an on ramp or something. Yeah. And it was like, okay. Yep. No. I'm on the morning the morning constitution. Doesn't care whether I'm I'm I'm, at at a, truck stop, home, or or on the side of the road. It it's time to go. So yeah. So yep. And that's that's the whole reason why I can't have trash bags, actually. Yeah. And just, I mean because grocery bags have holes in the bottom.
[00:44:55] Unknown:
Yes. They do. You're right. Oh, well, thank goodness thank goodness I'm home every night.
[00:45:06] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. No. That'd be That's fine. That'd be nice.
[00:45:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. Well, the and and, see, you're unfortunately, you're in this really, really, really small town where it's hard to probably find something of decent wage that's like what I am, a route driver, and I'm home every night.
[00:45:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That that pays decently. Yeah. I mean, I've got route drivers, but like I was telling you, like, the, the the Doctor Pepper bottling, distributor there in LC. If if he's increased his pay, he might make $18 an hour now. And, Yeah. That's that's not enough to to cover the, to cover the bills.
[00:45:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know? And to have a CDL for, you know, 15 to $18 an hour, I don't fucking think so. No. No. No. But
[00:46:12] Duuude-Ron :
CDLs typically, from what I understand are I mean, the the average is usually about about $50,000. And so
[00:46:26] Unknown:
Well, I'm lost. Around
[00:46:28] Duuude-Ron :
this area, they are. What do
[00:46:31] Rich Chelson:
you what do you mean I I I got lost?
[00:46:34] Duuude-Ron :
A CDL driver. You're you're $50,000 a year for for a, for a CDL driver here in in Western Oklahoma Oh. Is is about average.
[00:46:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Now Okay. Ain't ain't gonna work for me. No. No. I mean,
[00:46:52] Duuude-Ron :
I can make it work, but the wife is not gonna have any television to watch.
[00:47:01] Unknown:
Yeah. And what's the old saying? Happy wife, happy life. Pissed off wife. You're fucked.
[00:47:11] Duuude-Ron :
Unhappy wife is, yeah, and it's not a not a good thing. So No. But same time, I mean and I'm I'm not a well, I mean, I used to be a television watcher, but in the past, I don't know, fifteen years, I've really just kinda stopped watching television.
[00:47:35] Rich Chelson:
Right?
[00:47:35] Duuude-Ron :
My entertainment is either, is typically, the PlayStation. I'll play a video game before and and watch a movie. I do it. Now grant from time to time, I'll find a a a television show that, Jan is watching. It'll suck me in, and I'll it's like, oh, okay. Oh, let's watch this. And, you know, one that we're watching right now, me and her watching while we wait for the last half, the last season of Yellowstone to finally come out on on, on Peacock is, a show called, I'll show you what it's called, Paradise. And, it's got and it's a murder mystery.
[00:48:24] Unknown:
I've heard about it, but that's as far as it's gone. Yellowstone, I watched five minutes of the first episode. Oh, you're the I've ever seen of you. The only thing I've ever seen of Yellowstone is the ads for it on TV.
[00:48:41] Duuude-Ron :
Honestly, there's a reason why there's a hype about it because it is really good. I'm actually writing a, a a, blog post about the Duttons and how the Duttons actually show what masculinity is about. This is why so many people are so attracted to Yellowstone because, dad Kevin Costner's, character, John Dutton, he is a he is the has a vision, and he is a unwavering from that vision. You get in his way, he is literally gonna run you over. He protects his family. His family though he lot of people will take what, how he acts as being a very toxic family relationship, it's not.
And or they misattribute who the toxicity is actually to. Because the the toxic person is the is, the middle child or the middle son of the Dutton family, Jamie. And he is the very definition of a nice guy. He just wants people to like him, and so he does everything he can just to be like him. And because of that, he violates and and and, compromises the the family at every damn turn. And, then you have, you had Lee, which Lee is just kind of the, he was very dedicated to his job and ends up dying early on, spoiler alert. But, then you have, the youngest, Casey, and he is the he is the the youngest. He's youth.
He is bound and determined to raise his family as as well as he possibly can. His wife is Native American, and she is, and it and they both have a son trying to have more kids, and they're just you know, they're doing everything they can, but at the same time, because the world wants to rip apart paradise on Earth, also known as the Dutton Yellowstone Ranch. They everybody wants to have a piece of it. You know, they're they can't find peace on the on the property because everybody wants their wants that land.
[00:51:39] Unknown:
Why do they want the land?
[00:51:41] Duuude-Ron :
Because it is it is, it is California and and new and and and Washington and Oregon and New York, all the the, you know, the liberal countries, everybody is transplanting and trying to go to these places that where it's easier to live. And so you have developers coming in going, hey. There is some prime real estate land here on this Dutton Ranch. And so you have people trying all sorts of things. You end up having a, an investor group come in, and they propose you know, they're gonna put up a, airport smack dab in the middle of the Dutton Ranch, and they tried doing eminent domain on it and and all this other stuff. And shit goes down and things go bad and things go left and things go not so right and and all this. And so it's just it it's a it's a hell of a story.
And then Oh, okay. You have the one woman in the family, and her name is Beth. And one of the biggest attributes that she has is that she lives life fearlessly. She will not coward to anything. She is not afraid. She has refute because and she they kinda give a backstory as to why she is not afraid of anything anymore because she did, she she was afraid at one time, and it and and it caused a major problem, major problem. And so she vowed to herself that she was never gonna be afraid again, and she refuses to do anything in a state of fear.
And she actually is a great example of how free you can be in life the moment you give up fear. And it's a great, incredible story. And I mean, everybody's like, you know, my wife is like, oh god. I'd love to be better. And it's like, you know, well, I get it. I mean, she says what shouldn't on her mind. Goddamn damn the, the consequences. And it's just it it it's just the that family dynamic is so incredible, and it's so interesting in in my opinion. And so, yeah, I I recommend what it's it's like five seasons is all.
The last half of the fifth season is coming out here real soon on, like I said, on Peacock. And then they've got spin offs. They've talked about the that they've got a the I think it's 1883 or 1893 or something like that. It's the Yeah. The one that Harrison Ford is in? That one's, 1923. Yeah. That's where Harrison Ford is in. Right? Harrison Ford's in. He plays one of the, plays one of the granddad Duttons. You have, and then you have the original Dutton that comes in on in in the eighteen hundreds. And so and and so they've got several spin offs, which are just, amazing, but I but they're over on Paramount. So I once we get, once Janet gets tired of watching whatever shows she's watching on Paramount, I'm gonna that's the that's the next, channel that we're going to probably invest just so and and or invest.
Go off and, start paying so that we can actually catch the other two, Yellowstone stories because yeah. Yellowstone Yellowstone is pretty badass. I'd highly recommend it.
[00:55:32] Rich Chelson:
Okay. 83 and 1923 are excellent shows.
[00:55:38] Unknown:
I haven't seen, yeah, I haven't seen any of them.
[00:55:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well Just the commercial, Paul.
[00:55:44] Rich Chelson:
You'd like 1883 and 1923. That's for sure.
[00:55:50] Bryan Goodwin:
You think?
[00:55:51] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I do.
[00:55:54] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. We know.
[00:55:58] Unknown:
The shadow knows
[00:56:03] Rich Chelson:
shadow of the thing is with with, Yellowstone, the way the way you explained it and everything like this. And, I mean, this is the way and and and I agree with you. I mean, I watched the show. So but but but just listening, you know, how like you said, your wife said, oh, I wish I could be like Beth. You can.
[00:56:27] Duuude-Ron :
That's the thing. Yeah. You can. Anybody have to decide that you're not going to be afraid anymore.
[00:56:33] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, that that you know? And that's the thing. You know? A lot of people, you know, not not just your wife, but even us, you know, we you you know? If we look back and, look at our lives and stuff like this, yeah, we've let we've let everybody else, the media, and everything else basically dictate who we're gonna be.
[00:57:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:57:03] Rich Chelson:
You know? And it's, it's it's I I mean, I'm not innocent from it. I've I've done it. You know? Oh, very much so. I still do it. You know? And I'm not saying that that I like it, but, you know, it's just something that, you know, we've all been brainwashed, you could say.
[00:57:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:57:26] Rich Chelson:
So that's just my take on it. Because sometimes I sit and think deeply.
[00:57:35] Duuude-Ron :
Contemplate.
[00:57:36] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I do contemplate.
[00:57:40] Unknown:
You think deeply. What is that? About three inches of water?
[00:57:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Most of the time. In the bathtub? Two inches of the water in the bathtub? And and and then and then and then even if I have three inches of water, I still have to wear my floaties on my arms so I don't drown.
[00:57:58] Unknown:
Well, see, here you go. Here is a solution to the issue of your water in the backyard. It gives you a free place to take a bath.
[00:58:12] Rich Chelson:
See, I don't think the people next door in the apartments would appreciate a big fat white guy, literally a big fat white guy naked in the backyard taking a bath.
[00:58:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, tell them don't look.
[00:58:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Tell them go fuck themselves. Don't worry about what, you know, you're seeing over here. Just don't look. And when you say white, oh, yeah. You're like, looking at the sun white.
[00:58:41] Rich Chelson:
Right. So, I mean, I mean, even if someone tried not to look, they couldn't help but help it because it would be brighter than the sun.
[00:58:53] Unknown:
Oh, I yeah. I'm I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever of how white you truly are.
[00:59:03] Rich Chelson:
I am white. There's no doubt. No doubt.
[00:59:12] Unknown:
Shut the front door.
[00:59:20] Duuude-Ron :
Whatnot? No. It's not what. It's who. Eggs. What in the ham and eggs is going on around around here?
[00:59:29] Unknown:
I don't know. What's going on down there?
[00:59:32] Rich Chelson:
That's a saying you don't hear that often.
[00:59:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. You're right.
[00:59:37] Rich Chelson:
What in the ham and eggs? That's What the ham and eggs going on? Yeah. Oh, so
[00:59:48] Unknown:
And ain't we just a bunch of fucking losers?
[00:59:53] Duuude-Ron :
Well, we're we're we're we're getting to the age now that, that, hell, the the young kids, young whippersnappers are even going on forgetting what a boomer is. They're actually trying to start incorporating gen x in the boomers. So
[01:00:11] Rich Chelson:
That's not gonna bode well. Oh, no. No. No. It's fine. But because because, Gen xers will set them straight and
[01:00:20] Duuude-Ron :
don't care if they hurt their feelings. Oh, that they relish in the fact that they hurt feelings.
[01:00:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:00:27] Duuude-Ron :
It's like, oh, that hurt your feelings.
[01:00:29] Rich Chelson:
Okay. It's like I don't give two fucks.
[01:00:34] Unknown:
Here, now now that I've hurt them, let me just go ahead and retrieve them and stomp on them. Right? Fuck fuck your feelings.
[01:00:45] Rich Chelson:
It's like it's like these kids start whining and crying and boo hooing, and they're like, oh, what? Let me give you something to cry about. Something we all heard back in the day.
[01:00:57] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. Oh, how how that other thing how did that other thing goes? If you wanna cry or I'll give you something to cry about. Yeah. I'll give you yeah. It was whatever, and then I'll give you something to cry about.
[01:01:17] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[01:01:18] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:01:21] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. It's, a, yeah, it's a a mhmm. Yeah. See, they don't these kids nowadays, they don't understand. We'll give you something to cry about.
[01:01:34] Unknown:
Hell, yeah.
[01:01:36] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[01:01:37] Unknown:
I'll fucking pop the shit out of my grandkids. You wanna run your mouth? Not a problem. There are consequences. You know? I mean, that's the problem these days is the kids that are in their early twenties, they were never fucking disciplined. Yeah. Well, good. Alright. That's good. Disciplined. Well, I don't know about that. I got a good ass whooping every once in a while.
[01:02:18] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. No. No. I'm not dude. No. No. No. No. No. No. The kids that are in their twenties now, we're not their parents.
[01:02:27] Unknown:
No. We, yeah, we could be their grandparents.
[01:02:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We we could yeah. We would be their grandparents.
[01:02:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Their Yeah. You're right.
[01:02:37] Rich Chelson:
Their parents.
[01:02:39] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[01:02:41] Rich Chelson:
You know, pretty much,
[01:02:44] Unknown:
Oh, they wanted to be their friend. Yeah. They wanted to be their friends. Yeah. That don't fucking work.
[01:02:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Never has.
[01:02:54] Unknown:
Nope. You're right. It never has.
[01:02:56] Rich Chelson:
But every generation does it.
[01:03:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I believe it.
[01:03:07] Rich Chelson:
So oh, yeah.
[01:03:10] Unknown:
And, of course, every every generation before that generation was like, well, you know, what was I gonna say? The the aspect of you don't you don't even know what it was like to be in our generation with the discipline and, you know, this and that and, you know, the hardships and this and that. It's like yeah. Okay. But, you know, computers, TVs, and cell phones have turned everybody into, what's a good word for that, pussies.
[01:03:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's I mean I mean, that's that was the way things wanted to go. You know? That's I mean, that's that's the way people wanted everything to go for. Mhmm. You know? Because, oh my god. You know? They they had such a hard life.
[01:04:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And now they're just a bunch of fucking pussies.
[01:04:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:04:20] Unknown:
Basically. So that's my take on it. And, you know, what's so funny now is, like, our generation is, like, I could really do without a fucking cell phone. Yep. And then when you can't then when you misplace your cell phone, you're in a fucking panic trying to find that motherfucker.
[01:04:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I'm not. Fuck it. I don't care. I seriously, I mean, I've I've I've left my phone back here in in in you know, when I've been, you know, back here with my computers and my AM radios. And Yeah. Go outside and smoke a cigarette, and I'll scroll off, and I'll I'll go do whatever. I'll go back outside two, three more times, and I'll be like, where the fuck's my phone? And I'll I'll literally have to it'd be like, yeah. Well, I worry about it later. And then later comes around, I'll hear it. It's like, alright. I better go check it. It's like, fuck. Really? I mean, I was I was I was happy, you know, because I didn't have to, check it.
[01:05:33] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's it's amazing of what kind of tether we have on that fucking device. It it's just incredible.
[01:05:44] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. A lot of people, they're like, oh my god. They if the phone is not in their hand, they are they are freaking out.
[01:05:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Or within some type of reach. You know? Yeah. I don't always have to have my phone in my hand, but, you know, yes, it is within reach. Now should I
[01:06:11] Rich Chelson:
I leave mine all over the place.
[01:06:14] Unknown:
Now have I misplaced it and I'm getting ready to go to work? It's like, what the fuck did I do with my phone?
[01:06:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's different.
[01:06:23] Unknown:
Exactly. That's that's going to work. You, you know, being retired retired, it's like, you know, somebody calls me, they call me. If not, you know,
[01:06:36] Rich Chelson:
I hate to think of it.
[01:06:39] Unknown:
Yep. And I ain't gonna fucking worry about it.
[01:06:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yep. I I mean, yeah, pretty much. It's you know, that's the way it is. You know? So I mean, there's there's not there's not many people that call me. You know? My nephew might call me just to chitchat or ask me a question about about motors and stuff like this or show me stuff in this go kart, but, you know, he knows he knows if he doesn't get me, just I'll see it eventually, and I'll call him back, you know, or leave a message. If you don't leave a message, I ain't calling you back.
[01:07:16] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:07:17] Rich Chelson:
So that's just that's just how that goes.
[01:07:24] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm the same way. If, you know, I don't see a number that I recognize, especially when I'm driving. You know, I'll hang up. It's like and if you don't wanna leave me a message, I ain't gonna fucking call you back. Right. Obviously obviously, it wasn't that important that I needed to talk to you. Right. And, hell, probably half of them are fucking, telemarketers anyway. Right. Yep. And I don't wanna fucking talk to them. Shit. Everybody's you know, on these days, fucking answer the phone, and everybody's trying to scam you out of fucking money. Oh, yeah.
God. It's like, here you go. Go get a real fucking job.
[01:08:22] Rich Chelson:
I just hang up.
[01:08:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. But, you know
[01:08:28] Rich Chelson:
Fuck them.
[01:08:29] Unknown:
Yeah. But, you know, they do make a considerable and it is a job. Scamming is a job. They make considerable amount of money. Well You know? But it's, you know, at the cost of somebody else's, you know, naive.
[01:08:52] Rich Chelson:
You know? That's just been going on since since the beginning of time, though.
[01:09:00] Unknown:
Well, yeah. You're right. I mean, it is It did it didn't just start with computers. That's for sure.
[01:09:07] Rich Chelson:
No. No. You know that phrase, there's a sucker born every minute.
[01:09:14] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
[01:09:16] Rich Chelson:
So I I mean, that's I mean, yeah. It's sad that, you know, it's sad that people get scammed and stuff like that, but at the same time, it's like it's like people it is your job to pay attention and and to, you know, learn this. Mhmm. You know? If if yeah. You know? I I mean, I don't wish wish for anyone to lose their money or, you know, anything like this. But if you do, you probably should have done your research. And and trust me, I know people are slick. They can they can talk real slick. And, I mean, I I'm not innocent here. I've been I've been took a couple times my damn self.
Not lately, but, you know, I've been took in the past. And then I learned. I woke up. I said, nope.
[01:10:09] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:10:12] Rich Chelson:
So
[01:10:15] Unknown:
I had the same thing happen to me. Had the same thing happen to me. It sucked. But, you know, I learned.
[01:10:23] Rich Chelson:
Yep. It's expensive lesson, but, you know, you only gonna do that once.
[01:10:30] Unknown:
Yep. That is true. This is true.
[01:10:35] Rich Chelson:
So, yeah, that's I I mean, that's that's how I look at a lot of that. And is it right or wrong? Who knows? It's it's different for everybody. But Yeah. You know? I don't know.
[01:10:55] Unknown:
Oh, watching the news. Trump signs executive order to dismantle the Department of Education.
[01:11:02] Duuude-Ron :
Now Well, good. Alright. They act yeah. Now they'll actually do it.
[01:11:07] Unknown:
Oh, they're gonna get fucking feedback and all that other shit. Yeah. But about damn time.
[01:11:17] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean I mean, signing the order is great, but, like like Brad said, we're gonna take effect.
[01:11:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. The execution.
[01:11:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? Yeah.
[01:11:33] Unknown:
And and give it back to the states.
[01:11:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That must go back to the states, but that's the issue is that, that yeah. I think Department of Education was created by Congress. So the Congress actually has to be the one who actually remove gets rid of Department of Education. And that is a that's a that's all that's almost as much of a third rail as, as, oh, hell, what's the fuck? The the, Social Security and Medicare.
[01:12:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That means it's fucking be revamped. What do you mean, Brian?
[01:12:24] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I mean, that's that that's stuff that you will get a lot of people worked up, like, when Bush went off and and talked about, well, let's see what happens if we privatize Social Security, which would be great. That's the whole that, you know, that would be an awesome thing. But, again, the issue that you run into is, one, because Social Security is now the young working for the old instead of, you know, the old having their money put in you know, actually having their money. And when it's time to retire, they actually get their money back.
[01:13:06] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Right? Well, that's because everybody's so That that's because congress and them and the government has has raped it so bad. Oh, yeah. They have broke down to it. Money back. Use. Yeah. Need the money back, and and Social Security would be solvent again.
[01:13:24] Unknown:
Yep. That ain't ever gonna happen. It would be wonderful. Yeah. Well, yeah, there's a lot of things that they need to yeah. We need to fucking stop paying for the rest of the rest of the world and being the world's police. We need to stop that shit. If you can't police your fucking country, sucks to be you.
[01:13:54] Duuude-Ron :
Figure your thoughts. You've seen, you know, after, after, Zelensky, decided to act like a an entitled little little punk at the, at the at the White House and stuff. And you saw how everybody kinda came around and started, started, powering around Zelensky. One of the big topics of discussion that kept coming up is, well, it looks like we can't trust America to defend us anymore. And and so what do we do now? I was like, well, we're gonna have to find some way of making some pulling up some extra money. We're gonna have to start throwing a little more money to to, you know, to to to build our our defenses back up. I mean, hell, you got, France, I believe, just, put out a book for the public to to have on how to actually prep for in case of an invasion.
They think they're fixing to get invaded, which I mean, sorry. But no. Even though Putin would have liked to have you know, it might want to invade, which I mean, there's a reason why he invaded Ukraine, and it has nothing to do with Paris. He's not going to go off and run all the way down to Paris. Now Europe wants another war. They they they're out of money. They're they're like going, how are we gonna feed everybody and take care of everybody and get rid of and get everybody's, Medicare, you know, health care taken care of? We are we're not making anything right now. You know? If we get too good at something, our our government sues us into oblivion. So we got you know, how are we gonna make money? Well, they've gotta go into the war they gotta go enter into a war economy.
So Europe is is wanting is chomping at the bit
[01:15:53] Rich Chelson:
for for what? Why don't Europe help go into war with Ukraine then?
[01:16:02] Duuude-Ron :
Because they don't know what because they're hoping that because they go into a war with Ukraine, then, that activates, NATO. And right now, Trump has kinda gone, you know what? Y'all gotta get y'all stuff brought up to, to approved levels before America's gonna jump in and start doing some help. And, like, even if they went, even if the worst case scenario happened, say, it does turn into nuclear war. Guess who's not really gonna be able to use their nuclear weapons that well? And it's just one that I I've I've heard of, so I don't know for a fact. But the one I've heard of is Great Britain is not gonna be able to use their nuclear weapons because they rely on America's GPS system.
[01:16:58] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[01:17:03] Duuude-Ron :
And this is one thing the founding fathers were warning against. Do not sit there and become friends with all the other countries in the world because they're gonna tie you up and get you into a war that you do not do not wanna be in.
[01:17:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Since okay. Let me ask this question. Okay? Because I'm I'm I'm kinda probably naive about this, because, yeah, I didn't know this. Since when did did the federal government, own own the GPS system? I thought it was made by scientists. I could be wrong. No. No. It's
[01:17:41] Duuude-Ron :
it's US military.
[01:17:45] Unknown:
Yes. Military satellites, I think. Yeah. Yeah. They're all military
[01:17:52] Bryan Goodwin:
satellites.
[01:17:54] Rich Chelson:
I can see glass mass or, you know, something like that, but but a regular GPS system. Well well, that can be hacked, though. Okay. Alright. I just had to kinda, you know, run it over in my brain. So
[01:18:20] Bryan Goodwin:
but
[01:18:22] Duuude-Ron :
but, I mean, it's they're they're they're needing a war and is is the epitome of it. And they're that's one reason why they're still they ran to Zelensky. It's like, oh, we'll we'll help you out. We're gonna make sure we're gonna we're gonna find out. And, I mean, they even went as far as, executing the hitting the essentially is the the the failsafe. The, the prime minister of the EU parliament or whatever. I know the guys on on no agenda call her queen Ursula. And she is she has, she has executed the the statute that allows for, for the European countries to actually go into debt because the EU actually had a statute in there saying that you cannot spend more than you bring in, which is incredibly smart.
I wish our government had that, but, you know No shit. One wishing one hand shit another and tell me which one fills up first. Right?
[01:19:45] Unknown:
Well, yeah, God forbid if, you know, all these politicians, you know, the shit that they wanted came out of their pocket. Oh, hell yeah. Can't do that.
[01:19:55] Duuude-Ron :
So so they, a Dow, they can actually start spending more to ramp up for self defense. Now we're calling it, you know, for defense, and it's not defense. It's offense. It we I that's one of the greatest, lies or or, examples of wordplay. That's actually a better example of what I'd call it. A better one of the great examples of wordplay. It's kinda like how the the the Democrats, the, the anti, the anti inflation act or whatever it was called that, Biden put in. Has nothing to do with inflation. It sounds really nice and pretty and actually increased the inflation because there's more spending.
But one of the greatest misnames that the world has used and The United States uses is the defense department. Since when has America actually been attacked and that's only been one time in '47? Or not '47. Not '47. I've I've I've '42. What? Yeah. Forty December seventh nineteen forty two, the day that'll go go down in, in there. Yeah.
[01:21:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. For a while. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. So,
[01:21:34] Duuude-Ron :
and there's there's there's a seven in there. I knew that then I knew there's a seven, and so my brain's like, yeah. It's forty seven. It's like, no. No. No. You dumbass. So, but the but that's the only time well, correction. No. There was a second time. Canada actually attacked America and burnt up the White House. So but here, since we've had the Department of of Defense, it's not actually been about defense. We really haven't had anybody, especially in and especially Mainland. It hadn't been since 1812 that, that, the war of eighteen twelve that, Canada Yeah. Went off and and and and turned our White House black.
And so there's we don't get attacked. So all of our all of our, all of our military equipment is actually war. It used to be called the war department.
[01:22:49] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:22:50] Duuude-Ron :
And then, somewhere along the, somewhere after World War two, they, they changed it. Yeah. And, it became the Department of Defense. And I was like, okay. Yeah. That sounds nicer.
[01:23:03] Rich Chelson:
But let's let's keep people did it because it sounds pretty.
[01:23:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It sounds pretty. I mean, it's the Affordable Care Act. So where we can actually make your make your your insurance premiums go higher. So it makes the Yeah. Makes it much more affordable.
[01:23:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah.
[01:23:20] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. Make sure it's the unaffordable care act, actually. So
[01:23:25] Unknown:
No shit. Yeah. I'm just I'm just so glad that I have TRICARE Prime from my retirement because, yeah, some of my coworkers per paycheck every two weeks, couple hundred dollars Oh, yeah. Gets deducted out of their paycheck for health insurance.
[01:23:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's the reason why I don't have health insurance. I could not afford the I mean, there's there's a couple couple places that I found that, you know, yeah, you can get premium. Your your monthly premiums are are nice and low, like, $2,300 a month, which is still pretty fucking high if you ask me.
[01:24:12] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:24:13] Duuude-Ron :
But that doesn't that's also with a on around a $15,000 deductible. Uh-huh. Also includes, you know, your $20 co pay, which okay. That's the typical. And then there is to be able to tap into the co pay, you actually have to pay up something else also. So not just the deductible, but there's a little something else, and it's like $5,000 that you have to pay, before the insurance kicks in after you've collected after you've completed your deductible. So it's not actually $15,000. It's actually $20,000 that you have to pay before insurance will go, okay. Well, here's $20.
And so and and so it's, when we saw that and we're, like, going, okay. Well, we can get health insurance. But then when will we be able to use our health insurance? It still means we have to figure out some way of coughing up $20. We're out of pocket, you know, until until we get, until we hit the $20,000 mark.
[01:25:29] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:25:31] Duuude-Ron :
So, you know, God forbid if we needed it, you know the test is the expensive thing. Anytime we ever hear doctor go, oh, we need to get some blood tests. It's like, no. Let's not do any blood tests because that's a that's that's a grand right there. You're slapping a thousand dollars down to get the blood test because I've got hep c. I've had hep c, and I I've kinda I've gotten to the age now where I'm kinda curious if I actually have hep c or if I've just been popping, false positives this whole time. Because most everything that when I first came across hep c and and found out about it, everybody was saying, you got about twenty years.
And then, it it starts to go chronic, which is where you start having, cases where your your liver starts to go go, starts to stop working and stuff. Yeah. Well, I'm thirty years in now because I got it somewhere along the line while I was in the navy. And I think if I had to really guess, I think what happened is I somebody who had hep c tripped over a chain on the on the, in the hanger bay and scraped their hand because if because hep c viruses are very durable, so they can survive for several days on a surface before they die they die away because they haven't been able to pick up another host.
And so what I think is my assumption is that somebody tripped over a, over chain, fell, scraped their hand on the nonskid, and then I in my in my ever wonderful grace that I have did the same thing.
[01:27:30] Unknown:
Right.
[01:27:31] Duuude-Ron :
And that's the only way I could figure I picked up the, Hep C. It's either that or Jana, when she was a little kid, she ended up having, had, had, leukemia. So she had, got several blood transfusions, and that's the only other thing we could think of is that maybe because they weren't looking for for hep c. They weren't testing for it. They didn't know what to look for, and maybe she got it. But, again, I mean, twenty years as so she was by the time we got married, she should have had it, but, because she's shown up that she's tested positive for Pepsi also. So either I gave it to her or she gave it to me and through the use of of, you know, their as husband and wife's often do, I've, you know, I'd shave my face with my razor, and then she would go off and shave her legs with it.
Yeah. Uh-huh. And when you shave, you get microcut, so you're getting a little bit of blood on the blade. Yeah. There's a there was a sharing of of, of of blood in that fashion. So there's that's the those are the only things that we could think of as to where the hep c came from. Because at first Jan, the first thing she saw was that it was a sexually transmitted disease, and she was about ready to just go ahead and divorce me instantly. I'm like, I haven't had anything. Alright? We know that I gave blood you know, back when I first start first entered into the navy, they did a blood drive. I, gave blood. No one had a problem with it. Never got a notification on it or anything like that. Gave, couple years later, gave some more or not even couple years later. It's like a year later. Gave blood again. And then I was like and then one year, I was like, hey. Well, you know what? I need a little bit of money. I'm gonna go donate plasma.
And that's where they came back with, like, you got an upsy. We can't, can't accept it anymore. It's like, well, damn it. That was my first time to try. I only got $25 for it. So Got shot down on your first time. Yeah. I got shot down on my first time, so it was like, son of a bitch. So but, yeah, it's a but after that, I mean, you know, like I said, I mean, that's what, Evel Knievel had, had hep c, and it was just because of all the blood transfusions he had for the same reason. So, you know, they weren't in the seventies, they weren't looking for, they weren't looking for hep c. It wasn't until, the late eighties, early nineties that it really started, kinda creeping up.
And then there, they the only treatment they really had for the longest time was Intapuron shots. And now they've got, they've got pills that you they've actually got a a a treatment for it, but, see here. What how much is that? Hep c treatment
[01:30:54] Rich Chelson:
cost.
[01:30:58] Duuude-Ron :
Not curious to hear what
[01:31:02] Bryan Goodwin:
it
[01:31:05] Duuude-Ron :
was. Yeah. Mavericks. Nothing about.
[01:31:07] Rich Chelson:
Pepsi.
[01:31:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. There's I can't remember what it was called, so there we go. Thank per pill. Not oil, p I l l. Thank you. K. The cost of fabric for eighty four tablets is Thousand dollars 900 $13,909.
[01:31:47] Rich Chelson:
Goddamn. What medication is that for? Pepsi.
[01:31:54] Duuude-Ron :
Pepsi.
[01:31:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I love the the name of the medication? Oh,
[01:32:01] Duuude-Ron :
Maverick.
[01:32:04] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Well, you would
[01:32:07] Bryan Goodwin:
you would get most of your freaking deductible paid that way. Yeah. I still have to pay for it. So what's the purpose of going off and having a, of of having insurance if I'm gonna get still end up having to pay $13,000 for, for the, for a treatment. Right.
[01:32:38] Unknown:
And you know what? They're they're charging $13,000 for the medication, but how much did it actually cost for them to produce it? Right. $20?
[01:32:50] Duuude-Ron :
Maybe.
[01:32:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm being facetious, but still, even if they it costs them and, of course, they wanna get recoup the cost for research and, you know, they're paying that research doll doctor a million dollars a year and, you know, all that other stuff. It's like, okay. Even if you sold it for a thousand dollars, when it comes down to it, you're probably just doubled you know, it doesn't yeah. I don't know how much it costs to make medicine. Research is what's why it's so expensive.
[01:33:34] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Oh. And there's there's other treatments out there. There's, let me see, Sovaldi,
[01:33:41] Bryan Goodwin:
that does, twelve week, is a twelve week treatment,
[01:33:45] Duuude-Ron :
84,000. There's Harvoni, which is also a twelve week treatment, and it's $94,000.
[01:33:55] Unknown:
But is that a cure?
[01:33:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's supposed to be it's supposed to to get rid of it. Yeah.
[01:34:06] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:34:07] Bryan Goodwin:
At least that's what I'm assuming a treatment means.
[01:34:12] Unknown:
I don't know.
[01:34:14] Bryan Goodwin:
So But, yeah, I mean, let's thing is
[01:34:17] Rich Chelson:
some of the prices we pay for the drugs over here are, like, pennies
[01:34:23] Bryan Goodwin:
in other countries. Oh, yeah. Same exact drug. Yeah. But then those those other countries also have price fix.
[01:34:32] Unknown:
That's what The United States needs to have.
[01:34:36] Duuude-Ron :
Well, United States actually needs to stop letting drug companies advertise.
[01:34:44] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:34:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Those prices would fall really fast, really quick if they if they stop that.
[01:34:57] Rich Chelson:
Well, see, though, also, the, the drug companies, they don't want you to get cured.
[01:35:04] Unknown:
No. They don't.
[01:35:07] Rich Chelson:
So that's just all it is. And that's why it's it's, you know, it's crazy. Some of the same drugs that that we pay $500 for other countries, it's like, you know, $5 for six months.
[01:35:22] Unknown:
Right. Yep. Yeah. Uh-huh.
[01:35:25] Rich Chelson:
You know, we're paying $500 a month to thousand dollars a month. No wonder why Americans are sick.
[01:35:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Americans are sick because we have we do too much take too much sugar in.
[01:35:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, we do that too. But, you know, it's just it's you know, we need to just, you know, stop it. But Right. No one's gonna no one wants to do that.
[01:36:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Because we're one of one of the laziest nations in the world.
[01:36:09] Rich Chelson:
It's money, man. Money. Absolutely.
[01:36:14] Unknown:
Well, everything's about money.
[01:36:18] Rich Chelson:
I'm not about money.
[01:36:21] Unknown:
Yeah. You are.
[01:36:22] Rich Chelson:
No. I ain't.
[01:36:23] Unknown:
Yeah. You are.
[01:36:25] Rich Chelson:
How do you figure?
[01:36:27] Unknown:
What do you need to what may what makes the house payment? Money. What makes your vehicle payment? Money. It doesn't it's not not it's not the size or the amount. Yeah. But you still need money.
[01:36:51] Rich Chelson:
Well, I never said that that, you know, I don't need money because I do. Uh-huh. It's I'm not about the money. That's that's the thing right there. That's the whole thing. Oh, I gotcha. Okay. But, you know, a lot of people, they're about the money. They want every fucking dollar they can get and then more. You know? Because, oh my god. You know? They can't live on what they have. So
[01:37:23] Unknown:
Yeah. And, of course, it's always trying to they're always trying to compete with the Joneses.
[01:37:29] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. Right?
[01:37:31] Unknown:
Joneses have got to be some fucking rich motherfuckers, because everybody's always trying to compete with them for fucking money.
[01:37:39] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's how that's how everyone's taught. You know? Yeah. You you have to be the number one on the block.
[01:37:52] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. I just well, even myself included, just enjoy the the stuff that I currently own.
[01:38:12] Rich Chelson:
I enjoy my stuff too. I very much enjoy my stuff.
[01:38:18] Unknown:
Well, you know, I got a whole fucking two stall garage of nothing but stuff. I don't know what the hell I have out there, but, you know, I got stuff. You know? That's why I need a bigger house. I know. Two sons. I know. Yeah.
[01:38:42] Rich Chelson:
Drive sale.
[01:38:43] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:38:45] Rich Chelson:
One on each end of the driveway.
[01:38:48] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I gotcha. I gotcha. Well, you know, actually, I need a bigger house so I can get more stuff that I'll, again, we'll never use.
[01:39:01] Rich Chelson:
But why do you want more stuff?
[01:39:03] Unknown:
I'd that I want I would like to have just a fucking what you had, a a fucking barndominium or a fucking whatever that you called that up in Missouri.
[01:39:18] Rich Chelson:
I called that a tiny little shit. I I wish I wish I had a barndominium, but, no, I did not have a barndominium.
[01:39:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Well had a tiny home. You yeah. What you had? Yeah. I could yeah.
[01:39:37] Rich Chelson:
But the thing is is you couldn't have all your stuff because they wouldn't fit.
[01:39:43] Unknown:
I know. But see, if I downsized, I would have no choice but to have not a lot of stuff.
[01:39:55] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:39:56] Unknown:
That sits around collecting more stuff. Dust? No. Because something else will get piled onto that stuff and make more stuff.
[01:40:12] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:40:13] Unknown:
You know? So it's just that if you don't have the space to store it, then you won't have it.
[01:40:23] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. But yeah. I don't know. I've shit I I mean, I still have stuff that's that's I ain't looked at in five or six years, and I don't know why I still have it. Mhmm.
[01:40:41] Unknown:
Oh, I'm the same way. You know? I got all kinds of shit that fucking just crap. Just stuff. Right. Yeah. I know. Yes. I know I need to have a garage sale. I wonder how much the bricks would go for, though.
[01:41:03] Rich Chelson:
You could probably get $3 a piece for them, though.
[01:41:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I could. I'll have to count up the bricks I have in my garage. You know? Seeing as how I'm trying to sell the garage. Suit. Have you ever have you ever gone have you ever gone to a garage sale and say, by the way, how much you want for the garage?
[01:41:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I know. Yeah. That's what I'm here for. I you said you were selling the garage.
[01:41:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. You know, I I I have never done that. I I can honestly say I've never done that, but I might have to try that just to see what what someone would say.
[01:41:50] Unknown:
Yeah. And what kind of reactions you would get. They they probably just they it would probably just you get the thousand mile stare is what you'd get. They'd be like, what? What?
[01:42:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, either that or or someone would catch the joke really quick and be like, dude, that was really good, man. And laugh about it. You know?
[01:42:17] Bryan Goodwin:
That or no good? You're the seventh person today alone who's asked that same question.
[01:42:23] Rich Chelson:
Be like, damn it. I wanted to be the first, man.
[01:42:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:42:32] Unknown:
So you go up to him and say, truly, your best number for this garage seems how you have the garage for sale.
[01:42:44] Rich Chelson:
Well, what if it's attached to the house?
[01:42:48] Unknown:
Well, they're not it's not they don't have a sign sale on it saying house sale. They have a sign saying garage sale. You know, if then once you get the garage, if they wanna do minor home improvements to, you know, to fill up that hole that the roof was that you bought the roof for and, you know, that kind of stuff. Hey. More power on them. Yeah.
[01:43:22] Rich Chelson:
You would shit if someone come up with a price too.
[01:43:29] Unknown:
Hell, yeah. I probably would. I probably would.
[01:43:33] Rich Chelson:
Because because that would be the last thing you was looking, you know, to hear someone say, yeah. I want I want about $3,000 for this here garage. I'm about done with it.
[01:43:50] Unknown:
And then you try to negotiate the price down.
[01:43:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:43:58] Unknown:
So you say, okay. You got 962 bricks, at a dollar piece, and then you got the I'd have to get new shingles, then the movement cost. So, you know, no. I can do 2,200.
[01:44:22] Rich Chelson:
That is
[01:44:23] Unknown:
funny. And then actually come and fucking take the goddamn garage.
[01:44:29] Bryan Goodwin:
You come by, you pick it up, and run off with it.
[01:44:33] Rich Chelson:
You would need to you would need to, videotape that because that would be funny.
[01:44:40] Unknown:
Yeah. It would. But, hell, I could videotape it and put it all into AI and, you know, I could actually show that I'm picking up the garage and moving it. Hell, you could do that.
[01:44:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. That is true.
[01:44:56] Unknown:
So yeah. I think we're kind of beating that fucking horse to death, haven't we? He's he's man, we could chop that motherfucker up and make steaks now.
[01:45:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Now now now, honestly, have we ever beat a horse so dead that we couldn't beat it some more?
[01:45:25] Unknown:
Every episode, pretty much. We've beaten we've beaten something to death.
[01:45:33] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. That's true. But but but, you know, the thing is with us, we can still beat it, whether it be this week, next week, or the week after.
[01:45:44] Unknown:
We could still find a way to beat that dead horse. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know what? It'd be so much better if we just fucking made steaks.
[01:45:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. You're right about that. It'd be really good. Yeah. I've never had a horse, but but, I I mean, I'm game.
[01:46:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And, again, if you keep beating it, you're gonna tenderize the meat. That's for sure. So it's gonna be a nice, moist, tenderized steak.
[01:46:15] Rich Chelson:
The bad thing is is since since you wouldn't even need to cook it, it'd be so damn tender.
[01:46:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:46:23] Rich Chelson:
Throw it in the microwave for about twenty seconds. Damn. I it's well done.
[01:46:29] Unknown:
Yeah. No shit. I said fucking medium. Not well done, motherfucker.
[01:46:36] Rich Chelson:
Damn. I should've had it on seven seconds.
[01:46:43] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Well so, what do you think about all these, firebombings on all these Teslas? You know, it's, I'll I'll go ahead. I asked the question. I'll let you guys respond, and then I will chime back in. What do you guys think about all these bombings of all these Tesla places and on the Tesla trucks?
[01:47:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I think that's just a bunch of idiots who, who think that somehow they're making a statement. When in all reality, all they're doing is pissing a bunch of people off.
[01:47:34] Duuude-Ron :
They're not encouraging them to come over to their side.
[01:47:39] Bryan Goodwin:
They're just it's the same problem that the the republic the democrats have always had. And that's what that's who Antifa and all the others, the all the morons who are throwing, like, a shit fit and and burning up, Tesla
[01:47:56] Duuude-Ron :
Teslas and Tesla, dealerships and stuff like that.
[01:48:02] Bryan Goodwin:
That's that's who they are. They're not Republicans by any stretch of the imagination, though I've seen reports of them trying to say that they're Republicans, which is like the blue hair and and the the septum piercing kinda gives it away. You are not a Republican.
[01:48:28] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:48:29] Bryan Goodwin:
But no. It's just there I mean, I haven't unknown any protests going on that I've gone, yeah. That sounds like a really good idea. You know, that thing they really made a really good point. I think I'm gonna go over their side. No. It's never as. It's like you're an idiot. You're a moron. Stop banging on the bongos and go get a freaking job,
[01:48:57] Duuude-Ron :
and maybe you'll actually have some have some money. You know? Talking referring to the the, you know, occupied Wall Street people who just sat around and and play drums all the time, bitching that they don't have any money, and that capitalism is evil while, you know, making videos on on, on iPhones and and using, Apple laptops.
[01:49:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Sir, no. There there's plenty of, of excuses, of reasons that I don't buy what they say.
[01:49:37] Unknown:
Yeah. What do you think, Gray Allen or Rich?
[01:49:41] Rich Chelson:
Honestly, I haven't heard anything about it. In fact, that literally, I I didn't even know it was going on. I mean, just just hearing the way Brian was was freaking describing it. It's just I you know, all it is is, basically, we need to tell the media to shut the fuck up and stop giving these stupid people the Yeah. Air airplane. Because Yeah. I mean I mean, all they're doing all they're doing because the world watches America. The world watches our news.
[01:50:25] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:50:26] Rich Chelson:
They have been laughing at us now, fuck, for a long fucking time and really laughing at us and thinking that we're stupid motherfuckers.
[01:50:38] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:50:39] Rich Chelson:
You know? And and instead you you know, if someone wants to do that, fucking put a video on YouTube or v or or or Vivo or, you know, any of these other video sharing sites. I don't care. But don't just stop because you're not gonna change anything. You know? And and if you're not gonna get out of mommy's basement and put some pants on and get a fucking job, then shut the fuck up. You know? But that's just my take on on because it's I mean, just just listen to what Brian was saying, yeah, I can't I can't argue with that, but it's just stupid.
[01:51:34] Unknown:
Yeah. So Well, here's Ron's take. They and it's all starting by the Democrat leadership of our company of our country. And the insurrection, as it's so called, on January 6, you know, how many people got arrested during that insurrection because it was so bad? But how many people were arrested for all of these riots? Antifa and, Black Lives Matter and, you know, all of those, and the Democrats were supporting the riots. Yeah. They were running,
[01:52:32] Bryan Goodwin:
they were they were creating GoFundMe to to, pay for the bond the bail.
[01:52:40] Unknown:
Yep. So now, you know, they're doing it all over again and citing these riots and protests and all this other stuff. And because it's against Elon's company, that's okay. Right. Because that's their narrative. You know? Why is it that you just if you can't do your job, you know, competently, then why why do we have to have all this crap? You know? And, again, look at, Nancy Pelosi. How much was she roughly making a year as a congressman? Hundred and set roughly a hundred and $75,000
[01:53:44] Bryan Goodwin:
a year? Yeah. A hundred and something. Yep.
[01:53:47] Unknown:
Yeah. So how does she leave that area with a net worth of $80,000,000? Okay? Some
[01:53:57] Bryan Goodwin:
of it is, and there's actually, it's actually kind of an interesting way of doing it. They've got, there's a there's a, a company that's got an app out, and it's called autopilot. And what they do is they've actually have got anytime they they get a notice that, say, Nancy Pelosi is selling off some, some particular asset, some stocks that she has, or she's buying more stocks. Yes. They actually will go off, and they have a, they have it set up so that your you will then, mimic what, Nancy Pelosi does.
[01:54:49] Unknown:
That's correct. And and why did she buy those stocks and or sell these stocks
[01:54:57] Bryan Goodwin:
at that particular point in time? Right. Because she because they made a law that was going to affect that, that company, good and or bad.
[01:55:09] Unknown:
Yeah. And in insider trading. So she in some way, shape, or form of what the position that she was in and the people that she knew or the contracts were that were, you know, approved by her or what have you, she knew what how that company was going to be affected. So she made sure that she bought in or sold stock for that aspect. Again, insider information. That's insider information, period. And it's illegal.
[01:55:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, not entirely. It's not ethical, but it's actually not illegal because she is doing it out she is actually doing the sales and stuff. I think the, the amount of time is, like, forty five days before the event happens. So, like like, if there's a bill that's supposed to become enacted, you know,
[01:56:22] Duuude-Ron :
in in ninety days.
[01:56:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Once it's signed, it become and it's ratified, and she makes the makes the sale, it's not necessarily insider trading because she is selling before the news comes out. True. But it's far enough out that it's, not supposed to actually, it's a it's actually a legal thing to do. It's a loophole.
[01:56:55] Unknown:
Okay. So say Boeing is gonna create another s r 71 type bird. Public doesn't know about it, but yet Pelosi buys hundred thousand stocks at Boeing for and this is just a number, for $50.50 dollars a share. Right. And then when that comes that comes out publicly, that stock has already skyrocketed.
[01:57:26] Rich Chelson:
What a brand is saying. If it's done if it's done within, like, two weeks of it coming out, yes. That's wrong. Okay. But if it's if it's done ahead of time, like, forty five, sixty days, you can't really say that's insider trading.
[01:57:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I will I will disagree to the help.
[01:57:56] Rich Chelson:
Okay. I'm a hit Because if you That's fine.
[01:58:02] Unknown:
Yeah. My my only argument is is, okay. She bought stock, say, six months in. They knew that they're working on the deal. She buys it for $50. When it comes out, the the stock goes up to a hundred and $50. K? It's insider information.
[01:58:26] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Let me ask you this, Ron.
[01:58:29] Unknown:
Okay? Okay.
[01:58:32] Rich Chelson:
What if you had the same opportunity and you took advantage of it? Would it be the same?
[01:58:38] Unknown:
Would it be illegal? Yes. It would be.
[01:58:41] Duuude-Ron :
Would it be unethical? Yes. It would be. No. But what if it was just unethical but not illegal? And that's what's happening right now. It's like Pelosi, when she sells a lot of her stocks or buys a bunch of stocks and the way she's able to play the stock market isn't necessarily illegal,
[01:59:03] Bryan Goodwin:
but it is
[01:59:06] Duuude-Ron :
unethical in in our in our opinion.
[01:59:12] Unknown:
Right.
[01:59:13] Bryan Goodwin:
So if you were to do that, would it still be you know? And that's not illegal, but unethical. Would you, you know
[01:59:21] Rich Chelson:
Would you still take advantage of it given the same set of variables?
[01:59:31] Unknown:
You know, I would think that I wouldn't do it again. You know? Who knows?
[01:59:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. No. I mean I mean, we're not trying to put you on spot, but Oh, no. I know you're not. And, you know, I'm not saying I'm not saying Brian's not saying Nancy Pelosi is innocent here or or anyone else is innocent. But but the whole thing is is that is you know, it's it yeah. It people say it's unethical, but, literally, what is unethical? Because your rule rules that you follow are not the same rules I follow in my life. You know? You've got certain standards in your life that you follow that I don't follow, and I got rules in my life I follow that you don't follow. So who's to say it's unethical?
[02:00:34] Unknown:
Or get or guilty until or being charged guilty in a court of law.
[02:00:44] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, yeah, if you go out and get charged, then
[02:00:48] Unknown:
Well, just like speeding. You're not guilty until you get caught. Right?
[02:00:54] Rich Chelson:
Right. But is it ethical to speed?
[02:01:02] Unknown:
No. Because it's a law.
[02:01:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Don't speed it. What if your, what if peanut is severely hurt and is in the hospital and needs your blood. Uh-huh. Do you still drive speed limit, or are you driving a hundred miles an hour? I'm driving a hundred miles an hour. Okay. So is it is it ethical still or unethical, or is it just
[02:01:36] Unknown:
with that with that, yep, circumstance, and I will pay for the consequences after the fact. Very possible. Yep. I had
[02:01:52] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, very possible that you might.
[02:01:55] Unknown:
Yeah. So say I don't stop for if cop gets behind me and I don't stop and I get to the hospital and run-in there for blood, you know, I will deal with the consequences after I get done doing with what I have to do. Yep. And I am, at that point, willing to take those consequences for my actions.
[02:02:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And that's how a lot of people most most people would be that way. They would be alright. Yep. I mean, if I if I did wrong, okay. Hit me with the with, the with charge, and I'll I'll accept it. It's my responsibility. I I did that.
[02:02:52] Unknown:
Yep. And that's why they have and that's why we they have a court of law. Right.
[02:03:03] Bryan Goodwin:
So
[02:03:08] Unknown:
but, yeah, you know, everybody can argue the factor of what is their morals, what is it worth. Right. What are my morals worth to you? You know? And you may have that same strong ethical thought that I do. Then then again, you may not. But like what Rich Rich was saying, these are my morals, values, and ethics, and then you have your morals, values, and ethics.
[02:03:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Absolutely. So
[02:03:58] Unknown:
no. No. I I totally agree with that. So would I would I think that I would do it just because I had the insider information? I would hope that I wouldn't and or report it. You know? So I don't know. Can't can't answer that. Can't truthfully answer that question. It's Right. Without it without it going against me in one way, shape, or form.
[02:04:41] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's I I mean, you you see, that's the thing. You know? It's it's it's what is your truth? Okay. Your truth is not mine. You know? My truth is not yours. Same way with me. So you know? And and and that that's why that's why something like this, it's, I mean, it's so hard to say who's right and who's wrong when when you can't really say. I mean I mean, yeah, we all have thoughts on what is right and what is wrong, but, you know, yeah, who's to say? Now if you break the law, then, yes, you're wrong. You know what I mean? And like you said, and I would do the same thing. If I got caught, write the ticket.
I'll pay the paper because I screwed, you know, you know, I screwed the pooch. Yeah. But, you know, if it's not against the law, who says I can't do it? Yeah. And that that's just that's just my thoughts.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Oh, I agree with you.
[02:06:02] Rich Chelson:
That's that's like I've heard I've heard someone say something about, oh oh, you have God's law and and and human law. I'm like, excuse me? When the fuck do you hear about human law? Since when do humans have a law? Y'all ever heard that?
[02:06:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There's god's law and there's there's human law.
[02:06:29] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I had never heard of that. What explained that to me.
[02:06:34] Unknown:
Okay. Again, going back to speeding on the on the road, is did God initially invent automobiles when Adam and Eve were made?
[02:06:53] Rich Chelson:
No.
[02:06:54] Unknown:
Okay. So there wasn't any speed limit law made by God that was made by man.
[02:07:05] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:07:08] Unknown:
Now a god's law that we commit, murder, stealing, that's a god's law.
[02:07:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. The 10 commandments. Yeah.
[02:07:24] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:07:28] Rich Chelson:
But what's the human law?
[02:07:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Human laws are like, well, the laws of the laws of the land. So, like, that we have to have, liability insurance to to to own a car. That's a man's law. That's god doesn't care whether you have liability insurance or not. But that is it is a law that is, is created by man.
[02:08:00] Rich Chelson:
Oh, so so okay. So so human law is is is
[02:08:08] Bryan Goodwin:
what? It's gonna be fallible. It's based upon a lot most of it or or not most of it, but a lot of it is based upon
[02:08:17] Rich Chelson:
What you want other
[02:08:19] Bryan Goodwin:
people to do. Yeah.
[02:08:21] Duuude-Ron :
To you know? So, like, yeah.
[02:08:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So and that's yeah. That's okay. Okay. I I I get it now. I mean, I don't agree with it, but I get it. And I mean yeah. You know? I mean, you know, I mean, I'm not gonna go out and speed because I know I could get a ticket. I'm sorry, but I like to keep my money. You know? Yep. You know, I'm I'm not I'm not stealing. I'm not I'm not doing none of this other stuff. You know? It it just I don't know. It just I don't know why it's such a big deal. Never used to be that. Or or at least I never thought of it because, I don't know, subject probably never came up. It never came up. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And I was so, yeah, that's why that's why, you know, I didn't think of it. But, yeah, I heard that, and I'm like, what?
Human law. Fuck that. No. I do what I want. And, see, that's the thing. Even with human law, you can still do what you want. You just have to be willing to accept the consequences.
[02:09:43] Unknown:
Yep. That's the whole thing.
[02:09:45] Rich Chelson:
You know? I don't know. I just I I just No. It just kinda gets me sometimes. Yeah. Dude, what is your tip of the week?
[02:10:10] Duuude-Ron :
Ouch.
[02:10:12] Unknown:
You would have that.
[02:10:14] Rich Chelson:
Hey. It's 09:10. I just looked at the clock, and I was like, oh, shit.
[02:10:20] Unknown:
And it and two hours ago, I knew what it was. And now that you asked me at 09:10, I fucking forgot what my tip was. I'll have one here in a couple minutes. I'll have a ten.
[02:10:35] Rich Chelson:
Okay. No. I just looked down. I'm like, oh, shit. We haven't heard dude's tip of the weekend. I'm like, you know, it's it's like it's after 09:00. You know? I got to know, man.
[02:10:53] Unknown:
Okay. Let's see. Tip of the week. Always wipe your ass with toilet paper and not sandpaper after you get done taking a shit.
[02:11:19] Rich Chelson:
Are you speaking from experience, dude?
[02:11:25] Unknown:
To an extent, yes. And and you have experienced it as well.
[02:11:34] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[02:11:35] Unknown:
Have I? Yes. You have. How have I experienced it? When you got shit paper in the military.
[02:11:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, from the MREs? Yeah. Or just well, yeah. In the freaking latrines?
[02:11:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep.
[02:11:53] Unknown:
Wasn't that just a little bit rough?
[02:11:57] Rich Chelson:
Little bit my ass. That that left red streaks, man.
[02:12:02] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[02:12:03] Unknown:
So it was kinda like sandpaper.
[02:12:07] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was It's
[02:12:09] Unknown:
actually almost like wiping your ass with a fucking, you know, an actual stick before they produced it into toilet paper.
[02:12:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Some of it felt like that. Oh. That ain't no lie. Mhmm. Brian, what about you? I bet y'all had Charmin.
[02:12:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, I can't hear you all of a sudden. What's that? There you go. All of a sudden, y'all y'all weren't coming through. I was like, oh, what the hell? I can't hear nobody. But I can sit there and watch, read the, the closed captioning. So
[02:12:49] Unknown:
You have closed captioning?
[02:12:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:12:52] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:12:54] Rich Chelson:
So so, Brian, what kind of toilet paper did you have on the ship? Charmin?
[02:13:02] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. It was just basically,
[02:13:05] Duuude-Ron :
Scott's.
[02:13:08] Rich Chelson:
Scott's? Oh my god. Yeah.
[02:13:11] Duuude-Ron :
We
[02:13:12] Rich Chelson:
Y'all living in the lap of luxury, man. Yeah. Single ply wonders. It was softer than what we had.
[02:13:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But see, the problem is you end up having to use many so your finger wouldn't poke through.
[02:13:31] Unknown:
Yeah. That's so, yeah, there's another aspect of that. It was so damn thin that you, you know, you can just barely tap on it and poke your finger through it. Yeah.
[02:13:49] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But yeah. No. It but but you see yeah. Oh, yeah. Our stuff? Oh, yeah. No. It was like like Dave was saying, you know, shed a tree stick most of the time with softer. Mhmm. Serious, man. It was it was that bad.
[02:14:09] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:14:11] Rich Chelson:
It's like and and and god, you you screen for days if you had the runs.
[02:14:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That really sucked.
[02:14:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It did. Yeah. We What he don't We we called it John Wayne toilet paper. Left and tough and don't take shit off of it. Nobody. Right? Yep.
[02:14:39] Unknown:
That's that's Well, well, other than basic training, they, drill sergeant said that you only need one sheet of toilet paper. So you you you fold the sheet of toilet paper up into Quarters.
[02:14:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Quarters. Half and half again.
[02:15:02] Unknown:
Right. You take off, you know, you, take off the one corner. You rip that off. Yep. Right? Stick it in your shirt pocket. So then you unroll that one piece of toilet paper, stick your finger in that, wipe your ass with your finger. Right? And then that piece of toilet paper, you're taking you're wiping your finger off with that piece of toilet paper to get all the shit off, and you throw the the toilet paper away. Dan, don't forget about that little piece that you stuck in your pocket. That's what you're gonna use to clean up underneath your nail.
[02:15:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:15:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I heard that basic too, but I never listened to it.
[02:16:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I just thought it was funny.
[02:16:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. We yeah. We were yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were given a block of instruction on how to use up, toilet paper.
[02:16:18] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:16:20] Rich Chelson:
Guaranteed.
[02:16:23] Unknown:
And now if anybody ever followed up on that, I have no idea.
[02:16:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Me neither.
[02:16:34] Unknown:
So if they actually did it I know I didn't personally. You know? But I'm sure somebody may have, you know, done that. Who knows?
[02:16:53] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I I mean, I I just hope I never meet that person because I would just laugh. I would. I probably never would shake their hand again.
[02:17:07] Unknown:
That's exactly that was gonna be my statement. It's like, yeah. If I knew the eye shaking your hand, that's for sure, motherfucker.
[02:17:19] Rich Chelson:
Because you see the thing is, you don't know if they still do it to this day. You never know. They might have tried it and liked it and you know? So it's like, yeah. No. I'm good.
[02:17:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it's kinda like, you know, if you go to the you go to the to, again, truck stops, truckers being truckers, you go to go and take in a dump, and the guy next to you, you hear water splashing. You know, pay attention after it's done because you aren't going to hear the water on the sink run.
[02:18:04] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:18:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. I missed something. Say that again, Brian. Have you ever have you ever been sitting going to the bathroom and you the guy in the toilet, next to you, all of a sudden just you hear him splashing in the water? No. Oh, good god. Yeah. Well, I have.
[02:18:24] Rich Chelson:
I'm sorry.
[02:18:29] Bryan Goodwin:
And it's, again, it's the same people who they their left hand is strictly for that. Every time I've I've had that, I've stepped I've I've like, oh, goddamn. I wanna call this fucker out if he doesn't wash his fucking hands. And sure enough, step out, and he was he was rather dark skinned. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. They don't don't use toilet paper. They're gonna they'll still use their hand and splash the splash the the poo off their fingers. Yep. No. And then when they're done, they they flush the toilet. I mean, thank god they at least flush the toilet, but then they they just have no concept of wash your fucking hands afterwards, man. That's just all out disgusting.
Yep. I mean I mean, you would called a few of them out, and they're just like I did. I washed my hands. It's like, no. Not in the fucking toilet, you jackass.
[02:19:37] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. That's just no. I I I had never experienced that. Oh, it's a you you don't wanna. I mean, that's Well, obviously.
[02:19:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Get just out of the sheer fact because you're you know, you're going, nuh-uh. That's that's hand in water splashing. That's that's not that's not a case of bubblegut. It's that's that's, that's someone playing playing in the water. Actually, I like truck stop toilet. And the truck stop toilet of all damn things.
[02:20:16] Rich Chelson:
I mean I mean, seriously, what with with with the people that they use a truck stop toilet, you don't you have no idea, who has what disease or anything. You know?
[02:20:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But, again, that's why they don't the the Muslim population, you do not shake or use your left hand. It is a high insult to whoever it is you offer your left hand before. You're liable to they're liable to to turn around and start punching you.
[02:20:56] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:20:57] Duuude-Ron :
Because that's what they they are raised with. They that your left hand is for wiping your ass.
[02:21:04] Unknown:
Yep. And if they get caught stealing, they get their right hand cut off. Yeah. That
[02:21:17] Rich Chelson:
see, that's why I'm not Muslim.
[02:21:19] Unknown:
Yeah. So and the reason for that is that they cut your right hand off is now you have to eat with the same hand that you wipe your ass with. Yep.
[02:21:33] Rich Chelson:
Yep. I'm not I'm not one of them. So
[02:21:36] Unknown:
No.
[02:21:39] Rich Chelson:
Never gonna be.
[02:21:41] Unknown:
Nope.
[02:21:44] Rich Chelson:
Why? Because old age when I get senile and everything.
[02:21:49] Unknown:
And even if it's sandpaper.
[02:21:53] Rich Chelson:
I use sandpaper, but my finger ain't going through.
[02:21:56] Unknown:
Well, that's what I'm saying. You you could use toilet paper. You could even use sandpaper, but you're gonna use paper.
[02:22:04] Rich Chelson:
Damn right. I am. That is no bullshit.
[02:22:11] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:22:13] Rich Chelson:
Hell, I've used shirts when I didn't have toilet paper. I I I had something. My hands were covered.
[02:22:21] Unknown:
Yep. I've done that same thing too. Out in the field, you run out of toilet papers, like, damn. Okay. Here's this nasty T shirt from a couple of days ago. Yep. Gonna have to get sacrificed.
[02:22:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's
[02:22:35] Unknown:
gone. I gotta go is that I gotta go take a shit.
[02:22:40] Rich Chelson:
I'll just go to PX and buy more T shirts.
[02:22:43] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right.
[02:22:44] Rich Chelson:
Because I I ain't washing it.
[02:22:48] Unknown:
No. Because you've cut it up into, you know, small pieces, so it's not like you can ever even wear it again.
[02:22:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, you could sew it back together if you really wanted. Like, you know, I wasn't going to all that trouble.
[02:23:01] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Neither was I. No. I just, I just put it into the hole and buried it up with the With the rest of the With the rest of the With the rest of the business. With the rest of the business.
[02:23:16] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Hell. Yeah. Hell, I still still carry an etool and toilet paper in my Jeep.
[02:23:26] Unknown:
Do you?
[02:23:28] Rich Chelson:
Hell, yeah. I do. Dude, I never leave home without that motherfucker.
[02:23:33] Unknown:
Either one of them. Well, yeah, I've always get yep. I got two rolls of toilet paper in the back of the Jeep in my box.
[02:23:43] Rich Chelson:
I've got one in the back, one in my console.
[02:23:46] Unknown:
Yeah. And but I don't have any tool. Gotta go. I got I got access. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Don't have an e tool, though, but hey.
[02:23:59] Rich Chelson:
I've got two of them. I only carry one, though. Yeah. I've got I've got two, though. Oh, yeah. Because you never know when when when, the bell is gonna tow. So I'm ready to dig that hole when necessary.
[02:24:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Uh-huh. I'll give you that.
[02:24:30] Rich Chelson:
You know, it's just I just I don't know. Just yeah. Ever since that one year with the whole time and distance issue, I have never played around with that. You know?
[02:24:46] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:24:48] Rich Chelson:
I I just that was too close for comfort, and it's like, yeah. I'm not doing that again. I mean, I made it. I survived. But, god, that was oh, man. That was bad.
[02:25:09] Unknown:
Yeah. I can believe it.
[02:25:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[02:25:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Other than that, I mean, it's been fairly nice this week. Like I said, I went and, you know, coded, you know, went to my park, played ham radio, which was fun. That was actually kinda cool because it was, like like, 75, almost 80 degrees, and I'm sitting out there in the short sleeve shirt, and I'm just like, oh, yeah. This is great. I was gonna do it yesterday, but I got sidetracked. And then today, it it just yeah. The wind was blowing, like, 80 miles an hour. No. I mean, not that fast, but, yeah, it felt like it. And it was chilly, and I'm like, yeah. No.
Ain't ain't doing that. So I fiddled around the house here.
[02:26:11] Unknown:
Yeah. And you said your temperature in the morning is supposed to be, you know, in the mid thirties to low forties. Yeah. That's what Yeah. That's where we're supposed to be at as well.
[02:26:25] Rich Chelson:
So you're supposed to Right.
[02:26:29] Unknown:
Right? And that wind, oh my god.
[02:26:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know.
[02:26:35] Unknown:
Jesus. It's been blowing almost a freaking constant for a week. Today, there was very little wind.
[02:26:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. So everything up until today, welcome to the Texas Panhandle.
[02:26:55] Duuude-Ron :
Because because that's Texas Panhandle where you you have, you know, twenty, thirty mile an hour winds blowing. That's
[02:27:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh. Pretty much spring and fall. Right. Summer, you'll have the you'll have twenty, thirty mile an hour winds. Also, the only difference is is it's a hairdryer. You can actually go wash your hair, walk outside for five minutes, come back, and it's dry.
[02:27:20] Duuude-Ron :
It's just a hot and dry just hairdryer.
[02:27:26] Unknown:
Yep. And that's why I will never live in the Panhandle, either one of Texas.
[02:27:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Neither one of Texas.
[02:27:38] Unknown:
Well, you got the one on the top, and then you got the one on the on the, West Side, if you wanna call that a Panhandle.
[02:27:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, that's what it says.
[02:27:50] Bryan Goodwin:
That that's the armpit that's the armpit. Yeah. I'm It's about that South Of Texas.
[02:27:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not going I ain't going to either one of them.
[02:28:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Panhandle Of Texas or Panhandle Of Oklahoma? Or
[02:28:06] Unknown:
Panhandle Of Nebraska.
[02:28:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:28:12] Rich Chelson:
Dude dude, you should go to, El Paso. It's it's it's actually a cool little town. No. No. El Paso is nice.
[02:28:22] Bryan Goodwin:
I can give you that. I mean, that part of part of, of New Mexico isn't horrendous.
[02:28:30] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. I mean, that's I mean, I always enjoyed running out there. Just well, I mean, I'm weird too because, you know, I like the rock formations.
[02:28:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:28:43] Rich Chelson:
You know? And, you know, a lot of people go out there and they're like, oh, it's a fucking desert. It's nasty. Why why do you like it? Look at the fucking rocks.
[02:28:53] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean I mean, there's aspects to it. Yeah. You're right. There that are that are great and beautiful. I mean, like, yeah, the rocks and the and the topology of of New Mexico, beautiful. You get into the, into the rocky, there in, in that area or in the mountains portion where, like, Ruidosa is. Yep. Beautiful area. You get in between, you know, from no. Not well, Las Cruces a little bit, but you get up, going in between there and, like, Las Vegas, New Mexico. And yeah. No. I get you there. It is just flat. There ain't shit there. It's dirt. All it is is dirt and scrub brush.
There there's nothing really that I find particularly pretty about a good portion of that. Now you get up into the northern parts of New Mexico where the mountains are. Oh, hell yeah. I love that area.
[02:29:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, see see, the thing is when I see the flat parts yeah. Yeah. I understand what you're saying about the scrub brush and all like that. Yeah. That's not pretty, but you see you see, you know, a lot of people are like, well, there's no trees, and if there's no trees, I don't like it. You know? Look at it for what it is. Think about it. You you you know, think back past your own your own limitations. You know, expand your mind a little bit and think think think back, you know, how did this rock form? Look at because you could see all the striations of where the water level was at one point in time, whether it was a river or whatever.
You know? You can look and see how that rock was carved out by water and just think of the sheer power of just a bottle of water. Mhmm. You know, that's that's that's what I look at. You know? When I'm running out there and it's it's basically barren like that, you know, and then and then to see the cactus, you know, yeah, after a while, it does get kinda boring. But, you know, at the same time, it's still you know, it's like you know, I'm sitting here thinking. It's like, how? How did this thing freaking survive? You know?
I don't know. You see, that's that's where I'm weird.
[02:31:31] Unknown:
No.
[02:31:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know I am, so I'm good with it.
[02:31:41] Unknown:
Well, yeah, I could I can agree with you on that. So, you know, you do resemble that remark.
[02:31:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I do.
[02:31:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I won't That's okay.
[02:31:54] Rich Chelson:
I won't I won't argue with that, man. Mhmm. Oh, yeah. But that's why that's why I always like running out west. You saw, like like, the beautiful areas, what looked like desolate areas, and then, you know, you had the different colors in just one cliff of, you know, the rock and and how it was shaped and formed and all like that. It's like, oh my god.
[02:32:29] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:32:31] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[02:32:32] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Barely by the destruction of water.
[02:32:40] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh.
[02:32:42] Unknown:
Well
[02:32:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. It just yeah. It's it's, I don't know. I mean, yeah. I like I like weird stuff like that.
[02:32:58] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. That's cool.
[02:33:04] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, I see I see I see BD in many different ways. Uh-huh. You know?
[02:33:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Did Paul fall asleep on it? Nope. Nope. I'm still here. I'm still here. Oh, okay. Fact, I was pulling up the stories that I wanted to talk about. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. With mass chaos down in in Antarctica. So
[02:33:37] Unknown:
That's right. Yeah. So
[02:33:39] Bryan Goodwin:
but, yeah, yeah, there's a apparently, there this one here just captured my imagination. And, I mean, all I could think of is seeing Kurt Douglas and or not Kurt. Yeah. Kurt Douglas. No? Yeah? Saying, is it Kurt Douglas? Yeah. It's Kurt Douglas. No. It's not Kurt Douglas. Who is his? Or is it his son?
[02:34:00] Unknown:
In what?
[02:34:02] Bryan Goodwin:
The thing. Oh, I never saw the thing. Russell. Russell. Russell. Russell. I knew it was Kurt. Goddamn. I'm an idiot. Don't mind me. It's getting late. So, anyhow, got just got me thinking of of Kurt Russell and and and the thing and all that. Just, you know, mass pandemonium of what would happen if someone actually did snap while in, locked up in in Antarctica for the, during the wintertime, which I think they're there for well, it's I think it mentions it. So but, anyhow, Newsweek article, Antarctica based, map shows isolation of scientists as violence breaks out. So, apparently, we had a scientist who's just completely, gone off the deep end. Newsweek has created a map that lays bare the isolation of the South African research base in Africa, in Antarctica where a team is reportedly trapped with a colleague who has become violent.
A man has allegedly carried out a physical and sexual and a sexual assault with deeply disturbing behavior, leaving his coworkers fearing their own safety, once said in an email to the South African government according to the newspaper, The Sunday Times. Newsweek has contacted the council of managers of the national Antarctic programs via email for comment, but, apparently, I guess they haven't answered. The overwintering team spends fifteen months at the, Sani 4 Antarctic base, two in a which are in total isolation. So they are all locked in there for ten months at a time.
No one comes by, says, hey. How you doing? I hope y'all are alright or anything like that. It's just you you hope you find that find a way to maintain your mental health and all that. So concerns were raised. Concerns had been raised about the allegedly violent man before they all went into isolation, which is another kind of somebody wasn't paying attention. They were like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's he, he he's fine. He paid his $20,000 or whatever it is to go do the study. So he he raised his portion of the money. So it it we're good. All went into isolation, and then there was still time for the SA Agulhas two ship to, evacuate the team member before it departed Antarctica, the Southern Times, reports.
Last month, one of the team members wrote an email. His behavior is becoming increasingly egregious. I'm experiencing sufficient difficulty in feeling secure in his presence. It is imperative that immediate action is taken to ensure my safety and the safety of other of all employees. And the Department of Forestry, Fisheries, and the Environment, which manages the South African National and, National Antarctic Program has launched an investigation. And they show, yeah, kind of a year round versus seasonal on the year round one. I mean, now there is nobody within miles and miles and miles of this place. So but the, Sani 4 Antarctic Base, which was built in '97, is open year round and has a peak population of 80 people according to data as of November 2024, collected by the council of managers, national Antarctic, programs.
The base is one of the most isolated in Antarctica locations located deep inland and within a remote part of the continent called Puyen Modland or, a, a con nap a Com nap fact sheet shows, which I don't know what Com nap means. But, anyhow so most Antarctica stations are, building coastal ice shelves or large inland ice sheets, making them more accessible to ships, planes, and overland convoys. But the Sani four is on the valetri valetri scarvet, a none none of tech peak of a rock that protrudes above the surrounding ice sheets, meaning that is cut off from multiple ice spaces, based travel routes. It's close to significant ice shelf is, is FEMO ice shelf, and that is a hundred miles away. It requires more complex overland journey.
Go mushing for a hundred miles. The closest space is Doorway's troll station just a 20 miles away, while South Africa's nap, SANAP, summer station is about a 40 miles away. The only way to leave the base now is through emergency medical evacuation to a German base around a 86 miles away. So, yeah, just think if you were stuck and somebody went off the deep end, that is a movie.
[02:38:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That is a movie, but, also, South Africa. I'm surprised there's not more of them that have gone postal. I ain't used to that fucking weather. Oh my gosh. That is a movie and a book. Dude, hurry up. Pitch it to Hollywood.
[02:39:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Pitch down with My son, he's he's still one of the things he has just, for a long while, just been kind of, interested in in tweaking is, is doing writing scripts. Now he likes to do a lot of comedy script and stuff. So but at the same time, that's that, you know, that's something just right up his alley. He was like, yeah, man. That would be write a script and actually, that would be a fun, fun video game to kinda almost alien isolation. Okay.
[02:40:05] Unknown:
And how the heck are you gonna create a video game?
[02:40:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I'd have to do a lot of work learning how to program
[02:40:14] Unknown:
too.
[02:40:16] Rich Chelson:
But what That would be that would be easy. Set out as a South African team and and travel down to Antarctica and, you know, and stuff like that. And then and then you eat the wrong food and, you know, you wind up going postal, and they got all the, you know, these bases that are, you know, certain distances away and that that, you know, either you or someone has to try and make it and you have to go chase them and kill them or whatnot. Yeah. Shit. Yeah, dude. I could totally see a video game out of that. Hell, yeah. No. That'd be Maybe even a sequel.
[02:40:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:40:55] Rich Chelson:
You know, extend the story even further.
[02:40:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Yeah. Go off. You could actually almost make it a, make it a a a damn near an open world where, you know, you've got all these different, different bases that you have to go to. But, yeah, you've got a hundred miles, 86 miles to, for for one and, you know, through the through everything, you've gotta go through the first base and and try to track down the the guy who's gone postal and and investigate why he's going postal, and you could build a whole story and all the background. And, you know, as you're looking, you're coming across more and more and more dead people. You know? You got 80 people that you can kill off in a in in that one, that one base and you know?
So maybe they can try to get to, the closest ice shelf, and maybe that's you have a race to, race a timer or something like that. Yeah. You can come up with a lot of different scenarios. Got got, got puzzles you could fix on and stuff. So, yeah, there's a lot lot to do. You could even even make it a suspense horror.
[02:42:05] Duuude-Ron :
So Right.
[02:42:08] Rich Chelson:
See, dude, you just you just need to let your mind, open up and just let it think.
[02:42:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:42:30] Rich Chelson:
Dude, did you pass out on us? No.
[02:42:33] Unknown:
Okay. So why did the guy go postal?
[02:42:38] Bryan Goodwin:
He barely had issues to begin with. That's what they're making it sound like.
[02:42:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh, or or maybe there are really aliens down there, and they're just not telling us. Yeah. They've got I mean, you know, I hate to you know, freaking robots are gonna take over some days. So
[02:43:04] Unknown:
They are? Yep. AI is gonna take over the world.
[02:43:13] Rich Chelson:
It won't be in our lifetime if it does, though. We can't even get a solid working robot
[02:43:24] Duuude-Ron :
that looks human.
[02:43:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you don't want them to look absolutely human because then we stop trusting them. Well, I The closers that a robot gets to looking human, it hits that uncanny valley and people stop trusting them. When it's just a block, you know, a block of, and with some legs and maybe a couple arms sticking out of it, people are going are more willing to trust that
[02:43:56] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:43:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Than they would, you know, a an Android that look like, you know, c three p o.
[02:44:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, the thing is, either way, I mean I mean, we're never gonna see one in our lifetime. You know? I mean Right. I mean, we've seen the you know, we we won't see the human looking robots or the closer human looking robots. You know what I mean?
[02:44:24] Unknown:
Right.
[02:44:27] Rich Chelson:
Although I think it would be cool. It'd be scary as hell. You know? Because I'd be like, that fucker could rip my head off.
[02:44:38] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:44:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Or, the, I'll get around to, getting getting, you know, AI thanks to, quantum computers actually kicked off. Now that would that would make some people, really, really nervous.
[02:45:03] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. I don't know. It just it just I mean, yeah, it would be cool, but it'd be scary at the same time. You know? And it it just but, yeah, honestly, I don't think I don't think we'll ever see it in our lifetime.
[02:45:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Probably not. No.
[02:45:32] Rich Chelson:
Because, you know, because I would be worried about, okay. What if it got hacked? You know? That'd be the biggest thing because, you know, if they, you know, made robots like that I mean, like the robots that they have now. Right. How are they not getting hacked?
[02:45:55] Bryan Goodwin:
No. They're not connected to the Internet for one. The robots ain't the the robots aren't. No. They're programmed, and they, and then they act on their their programming.
[02:46:13] Rich Chelson:
Oh, but they need updates, don't they?
[02:46:20] Bryan Goodwin:
I would think so. They have new, new, set of instructions. Yeah. You know, they need to connect to a computer.
[02:46:29] Rich Chelson:
See, that's where the you see, that's where I'd be I'd be I'd be worried. Then you'd be sleeping one night and feel something near you, and you wake up, and your robot's right there in your face.
[02:46:49] Bryan Goodwin:
I've been thinking about you, Dave. I don't wanna know what you've been thinking about. No. No. No. No.
[02:46:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, Brian gets that Brian gets that every damn night.
[02:47:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, you know, the dog. He's like Yeah.
[02:47:07] Unknown:
Hello, Dave. What you doing?
[02:47:13] Rich Chelson:
I wanna play. Feed me.
[02:47:16] Unknown:
Yep. Now they do have AI dogs.
[02:47:24] Bryan Goodwin:
What? Yeah. They just Well, now. Kinda they are there. They call them AI, but it's, yeah. But, yep, just little lots of dynamics like the the the the spooky looking dog.
[02:47:42] Unknown:
Yeah. And, Rich, these dogs can fit in your hand.
[02:47:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, you're talking about the other dog itself? Yeah.
[02:47:52] Unknown:
That they have created that is AI. Dogs. Yep.
[02:48:04] Rich Chelson:
That's just crazy.
[02:48:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh.
[02:48:07] Rich Chelson:
What? I mean, you wouldn't have to feed them. Okay. No. You have to charge them out, though. They would so so I couldn't have one because that there would cost electric. Screw that. Yeah. Well, I don't I don't know what's cheaper, electric or Dog food. Food, vet, vet bills, and all this other shit. Okay. It might be cheaper.
[02:48:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Might be.
[02:48:34] Rich Chelson:
Might be more cost effective. Wouldn't have to walk it.
[02:48:43] Unknown:
Nope. Wouldn't have to take outside to take a turd.
[02:48:47] Rich Chelson:
No.
[02:48:49] Unknown:
Especially when it's a downpour and rain.
[02:48:53] Rich Chelson:
Right. Or snowing.
[02:48:55] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:48:58] Rich Chelson:
But but you see, that's the thing, though. If if you know, they you know, if they have these little dogs or whatnot, I mean, what do they act like a dog?
[02:49:12] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:49:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Basically.
[02:49:15] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[02:49:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I mean, as much as a robotic dog can act like a dog.
[02:49:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, okay. It'd just be weird, though, man. Oh, it is.
[02:49:30] Bryan Goodwin:
It's not it's not it's not like, Teddy Ruxpin talking to you type of weird. It's just you know? Yeah.
[02:49:40] Unknown:
Had to bring out deals to Teddy Ruxpin. Because they are so much more realistic. Now me, personally, I'm gonna have a dog. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. I'm not gonna have a Great Dane, but I'll have a dog.
[02:50:07] Bryan Goodwin:
It's just crazy, man. You want a Great Dane. There is the it it's a whole new experience when you wake up and find yourself being spooned by your dog, and you're the little spoon.
[02:50:26] Rich Chelson:
See, that's that's just that's just a whole lot of can't get right.
[02:50:32] Bryan Goodwin:
It it's a it's a I'll I'll give you give it to you. It's not a it's not a it's kind of a weird sensation when you wake up to it. You're like, you got one leg underneath underneath your your neck. You got the other leg over the top of your neck, and and their head's on top of your head. And you're like, why? My wife thinks it's absolutely hilarious.
[02:50:59] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:51:03] Unknown:
Now that dog is not gonna be is gonna be at the foot of the bed.
[02:51:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I mean, you can you can try to say that. You know? I mean, but, doesn't doesn't mean that's gonna happen.
[02:51:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah, that's true because dogs
[02:51:35] Bryan Goodwin:
dogs are gonna lay wherever they wanna lay. Dogs know where the most comfortable place in the house is, and they will take it.
[02:51:44] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:51:48] Bryan Goodwin:
They will more than likely push you out of the bed as they're taking it, but they will take it.
[02:51:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's just, yeah, I don't know. I I just you know? I mean, a regular dog, yeah, that's fine. But, but, yeah, robotic dog, Yeah. Don't think that would work. Besides, they'd they'd want, what, 1,500 $2,000?
[02:52:24] Unknown:
You know, I haven't even heard the cost Yeah. Whatsoever. Haven't heard anything about how much they cost. I've just seen, you know, videos of them, you know, being dogs. And that's, you know, their their mannerism, which is which is actually limited.
[02:52:57] Rich Chelson:
Well, I should have You would think with all the advances, they could make one that was pretty close.
[02:53:06] Unknown:
Yeah. You can think.
[02:53:08] Rich Chelson:
You know?
[02:53:13] Unknown:
Yep. I don't know. Again, I would never own one. If I'm gonna have a dog, it's gonna be real.
[02:53:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[02:53:24] Unknown:
Yep. You know, one that licks his butt and then gives you kisses. Oh, absolutely. Because you know they do.
[02:53:34] Rich Chelson:
Shoot. Because, yeah, nothing says love like licking your butt.
[02:53:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:53:43] Unknown:
And then and then sharing the love.
[02:53:47] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:53:49] Unknown:
But you know what? We all do it. I don't lick my butt, dude. Just saying. No. No. But your but your dog would lick its butt and then give and give you kisses.
[02:54:04] Rich Chelson:
Not on my face, they wouldn't.
[02:54:08] Unknown:
Has a dog ever licked your face?
[02:54:11] Rich Chelson:
Yes.
[02:54:13] Unknown:
Okay. The but they've licked your licked their butt before they licked your face.
[02:54:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, I never saw it. So
[02:54:23] Bryan Goodwin:
So it don't count.
[02:54:25] Rich Chelson:
That's right. Yeah. It don't count.
[02:54:27] Duuude-Ron :
It is right. It don't count.
[02:54:32] Unknown:
And we don't want that proof.
[02:54:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:54:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I def I definitely don't want that proof.
[02:54:42] Unknown:
Now it may have not been ten minutes before you got kissed. It may have been ten hours before you got kissed.
[02:54:50] Rich Chelson:
And I still have no proof.
[02:54:52] Unknown:
But we all guilty of it.
[02:55:00] Rich Chelson:
Oh my gosh.
[02:55:04] Unknown:
So Oh, yeah. Anyhow That was definitely a go for hole we went down on that one.
[02:55:16] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, anyhow so, yeah, it's about, about time for us to start getting our getting this visible old bird landed and and and all that. So couple of us can go hit the hay. The other one, he's he's retired, so, you know, he could stay up all night and sleep all day if he wants.
[02:55:38] Rich Chelson:
I could, but, yeah, I normally don't. Normally don't.
[02:55:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, anyhow, so guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for y'all everyone listening to the show, stopping by, having a listen, seeing what in the world does two grumpy vets and the dude are all about. And, as you can see, it's just us talking. It yeah. We don't really have a I wouldn't really call it a a big purpose. You know? We're not here to change the world so much, but we are here to be for be with and for each other. We are here to, to be able to have a good time laughing up and and just to have a have a couple of hours of just living life with each other. And, granted, we're all three in different parts of The United States. So, yeah, we don't get to see each other physically except for maybe once a year.
And, and so we are, we do this. We jump onto a Zoom meeting, and we we sit around and yabber for about three hours. And and and that's that's what we've done. We've done it, for, for several, several weeks now since, what about, March? I think it's when we started.
[02:56:59] Duuude-Ron :
No. It was April. It's April. So we're coming up on the first year. So Yeah.
[02:57:05] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, we are just about hitting our about just about there and hitting our our fifty second episode. So so, yeah, it's a it's been a, it's been a fun time. It's been a great, great experience and and excited to have even even more, discussions about, things that annoy us or things that we find fascinating or whether or not the, the scientists down in Antarctica are all gonna get killed by the maniac or not. You know? So just, just to sit back and watch and see what this is all about is just kind of a, kind of a fascinating ordeal.
So but, but, yeah, we are a show that is a value for value show. We don't go about asking for you to buy a a mattress or set of, set of glasses or or underwear or anything like that. We actually would rather you just decide what this show is worth. Is, you know, listening in, is it is it worth, a buck? Okay. Is it worth a thousand bucks? Okay. You are you set the value. We've taken the time and the effort to get together and and and talk about what we find fascinating this week and and what our reminiscence are about and and all that. And so we we get to do that. And as a means of sharing with you, if you find that there's any value in this, then, again, share it. Let us know what you think about, about the, three, two grumpy vets and dude numbers. Almost gonna say three three grumpy vets. That was a that's a title we haven't done in a long, long while.
But it is the the the show that we that we're doing, like I said, is a value for value. And the value is not necessarily money. I mean, money does help because that pays for hosting because, sadly, for whatever reason, I have yet to be able to get the hosting company to accept a a smile and a you're cool, dude, thumbs up type of type of action. They just seem to go, no. We need need cash. So we we pay the, we pay the the the bill, and on we go. Actually, Rich pays the bill and on we go. And
[02:59:40] Duuude-Ron :
we
[02:59:43] Bryan Goodwin:
we do it and, again, like I said, so that we can have a the moment the ability to actually spend time with each other. But the some of the other values that you can actually make or take from the, from the show is we are a time, talent, or treasure type of show. That is you can spend, your treasure, which is, you know, Fiat Bucks, and go to to any of the modern podcasting apps out there like Fountain or True Fans. You can actually, go there, and there's a support button. You can hit the support button. It'll bring a PayPal account, and you can actually choose to do a onetime donation or reoccurring donation to the show and and help us out in any way possible. If you are like us, like we are from time to time, kind of a broke person, so, you know, maybe money isn't the way that you could actually help. You can also provide, time so you could set up chapter, set up the chapter for the, for the chapter sequences and, and be able to help that way. Or you might be able to help in some other way. Maybe you've come up with an idea of, we need a better website, and you wanna go ahead and sponsor the website. Great. Awesome. Just put the put it together. You can you can run the website for us, and we're not gonna throw too much of a fit about it because there's no reason for us to throw too much of a fit about it.
But then again, you can fitness. Exactly. But, again, you can also, I'll provide your talent. So if you are good at, we use talk about graphic artists all the time because, well, I'm not a very good graphic artist. And Neither am I. And and and neither is neither is Rich. And we, we we do what we can, but, you know, I'm sure y'all have probably seen our our our cover art and gone, wow. These guys really need some help. Well, come on over. Help us out. Design a, the cover art for us or design the, design the chapter art for us, and and let us know what, what you've chosen. And we can it's not just one person. If y'all if everybody who listens to that, hey. I'd like to do some chapter art. Well, okay. Great. Awesome. Do us square, you know, 1,500 by 1,500 to 3,000 by 3,000 JPEG image of whatever whatever you wanna do that may relate to what we talked about on the show. And we will sit around, and we'll look at them and decide which one we like, which one we don't like. And and, and we could use that. There's a lot of different ways that we can actually utilize, the the chapter art and the and the the cover art and the episodic cover art and all the other types of cover art.
And so we can do that all thanks to those who donate the time, the talent, and or their treasure. So you we have offered are able to offer this so that we don't have to cut into the middle of our conversation with an ad that you don't care to hear. Because I know I don't I granted, I need a new mattress, but I'm not planning on spending a thousand dollars on a on a memory foam mattress because I know my luck. That thing will develop Alzheimer's to a year and a half in, and I'll be laying on the ground. So it's not gonna do me any good to have a to have a a memory foam mattress. I'm I need a box spring with with a mattress and springs. Now that's what we have right now, and the problem is is that our mattress is 20 years old, I believe. And so, yeah, the springs are starting to starting to work their way through and focus in the in the back and things like that, and it's not becoming very it's not all that comfortable. So but, anyhow so, yeah, we'd love to be able to, to keep the show going. And and everybody who listens, we are grateful and and and and tickled pink that y'all keep coming by. And if you have any comments or questions or anything like that, please shoot me an email over at, [email protected], or you can get ahold of Rich over at r Chelsea, that's chels0n,@Gmail.com also. So with that, we'll throw it on over to Rich and let him throw his last words in.
[03:04:26] Rich Chelson:
I just wanna say, thanks to everyone who who keeps coming back and listening. Shoot. It seems like we're getting more and more people listening. It's just it's crazy. Sometimes it's hit and miss, and then other times we got, quite a few, you know, hitting every week. So tell your friends, tell your family, tell your loved ones. We don't care. You know, and like like Brian was saying, reach out to us. Tell us what you wanna hear. You know? Give us a a a topic or something to discuss. You wanna hear, two grumpy vets and a dude discuss?
You know? I mean, you've obviously heard some of our podcasts or all of them. You know we can go down the the gopher holes and beat the horse dead into the ground, bring him back up and do it again in the same night. So, you know, send us an email, [email protected] or [email protected], and, you know, we would love to read your question and answer it on the air. If you wanna reach out to dude, just send an email to myself or Brian, and, we will definitely get it to the dude. And, we can hear his pearls of wisdom.
Like, you know, it is better to use regular toilet paper than sandpaper is toilet paper. Yeah. And and, yeah, and if you made it this far in the podcast, you heard that discussion. So, yeah, that's just a little taste of what we can do. But, yeah, we've been doing this almost a year, and, it's it's it's awesome, man. And, we, we plan to keep going and everything like this, and we're just gonna see what happens and goes on. So other than that, thanks for listening. Share it out. Send us an email, and, you know, we'd love to hear from you and talk to you. So, dude, what you got, man?
[03:06:37] Unknown:
You know, again, like Brian and Rich says, everybody, thank you very much for listening and to our rhetoric on such a variety of topics that we go through each week. And, yes, we would love to hear hear your thoughts and hear your questions. Because, again, we can, discuss anything that you guys wanna ask us about and right, wrong, or indifference, so you'll definitely get our opinions. Absolutely. Always. So so that's all I got.
[03:07:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. So, again, everybody, appreciate y'all coming over, having a listen. We'll see y'all on next, next Thursday, 07:00. And, also, with a something I forgot to mention is that this show is actually streamed live every, every week. If you have a modern podcast app, you will get a, you'll get a notification on, on your, on your app. So, like, fountain or, True Fans or podcast guru, you'll be told, hey. Within ninety seconds of us turning on the bat signal, you'll get an you'll get a notice that that we're live, and you can opt in, and you can actually listen to us live and and make comments, shoot us the emails while we're while we're talking. And we'll we'll reply to it as we as we receive them. So there's a lot of different ways you can, you can do this. So with that, guys, wanna say thanks again for, for coming on and, allowing us to allowing me to have a good time talking with, with you, Rich, and and Ron. And, guys, thanks again for, for the show. Thanks again for all the good times, the laughs, and the thoughts, and all that. So, we will see y'all next week.
Till then. Bye. Peace.
[03:08:45] Unknown:
Peace out.
[03:08:47] Rich Chelson:
Later, guys. Later, guys. Be careful. Absolutely.
[03:08:51] Unknown:
Yep.
Introduction and Windshield Woes
Communication Challenges and Tech Troubles
Nostalgia and Screen Doors
Yellowstone and Family Dynamics
Healthcare Costs and Personal Stories
Ethics, Laws, and Personal Morals
Antarctica Incident and Creative Ideas
Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement
