Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this episode of Two Grumpy Vets, we dive into a lively discussion about the importance of intentional living and the role of weekly conversations in helping men become better versions of themselves. Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude share their unique perspectives on social commentary, humor, and personal experiences. The conversation takes a personal turn as Bryan discusses his recent health concerns, including issues with balance and medication side effects, and the challenges of dealing with unexpected property taxes. The trio also reminisces about their favorite cars from the past, sharing stories of their first vehicles and the adventures they had on the road.

The episode continues with a humorous recount of a trucking adventure involving unexpected rain and the challenges of tarping a load. The hosts also explore the topic of modern masculinity, discussing the societal pressures on men and the importance of having strong male role models. They touch on the impact of absent fathers and the need for positive male influences in young men's lives. The conversation wraps up with a discussion on the potential of mushroom coffee, the idea of starting a French fry food truck, and the challenges of maintaining a podcast in today's digital landscape. Join the Two Grumpy Vets for a candid and entertaining conversation that covers everything from personal anecdotes to societal observations.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living,   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan   Rich and the Duuude.  

[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:

Cheers. Bro.  

[00:00:36] Duuude-Ron :

Doing good, my man. How you holding up?  

[00:00:38] Rich Chelson:

Not too bad. Not too bad.   So  

[00:00:42] Duuude-Ron :

you sound a little low energy. So anything in particular going on?  

[00:00:47] Rich Chelson:

No. I just   I got a couple things to talk with the doc.   My,   my balance hasn't been great for about the last month.  

[00:00:59] Duuude-Ron :

Oh.  

[00:01:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   No. It's it's,   it's affecting   yeah. Standing, sitting,   whatever.   It don't matter.   I'm fucking I'm fucking dizzier than I ever have been.  

[00:01:15] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh. Yeah. So they're doing,   any head scans?  

[00:01:21] Rich Chelson:

I don't well, I I,   I, I, I go sit at doc on Monday. So   K.   So I'm a let her know what's going on there. Normally normally, it's, crystals in my ear, but this time, I don't think it is because this I've I've never been affected this bad, dude.  

[00:01:39] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:01:40] Rich Chelson:

You know? I mean   I mean, it's it's   yeah.   So   I just been I'd I mean,   like, I wanted to get out and go today.   And, yeah, I didn't do that because   I'm just so dizzy. So Right. I'm like so I'm like, yeah. No.   Wanted to do it, yesterday because, god, it was freaking beautiful yesterday.   But, I mean Oh, yeah. I mean, you know you know, when I'm standing there and   my legs wanna go out from under me, it's like, yeah. I probably shouldn't drive.   So   so I'll go figure it out.   Yeah.  

[00:02:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. I would definitely say that's a that's something we need you wanna look at because, yeah, that's   a lack of bal I mean, my dad didn't have good balance, but that was also because they,   back in the fifties, he had a, he had brain surgery because of for a tumor. So back then, that was like,   you know,   using   using,   some garden shears and a and a   and a and a spade to   to do the work. So it wasn't quite as exact, so he kinda screwed his balance up.   Right. But he he now he got to live until 02/2010.   But  

[00:03:12] Rich Chelson:

Oh, wow.   Yeah. No. It just you know, like I said, it just   I don't know.   It's it's something like February,   you know, when I started noticing this shit.   Right.   You know? And,   you know, I could I could I could control it easier.   And,   yeah, and now it's just, it's like it's, yeah, it fucks me up. So I'm like, nah. It's not a good thing.   So it's like, alright. I'll fucking ask the doc about it.  

[00:03:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:03:54] Rich Chelson:

And we'll see we'll see what the doc says.  

[00:03:58] Duuude-Ron :

I'm sure they're probably gonna start off with,   with,   adjusting your, your meds a bit.  

[00:04:06] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's the thing. I mean I mean, really, what what kind of meds I mean, I don't I don't I don't take much meds.   You know? I mean, just, you know, blood pressure,   thyroid,   you know, stuff like that. Now I do take gabapentin,   and, I did read,   you know, there's some side effects with it. So   I've actually been backing myself off it, you know,   you know, over the last couple weeks.  

[00:04:35] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:04:36] Rich Chelson:

You know, and everything like that. And it still it still really hasn't,   changed anything.   So   so, yeah, I'm just yeah. I don't know. I mean I mean I mean, as far as my meds, my meds really   they're not,   mind altering or anything or   or or   motor skill.   What's that word I'm looking for?   They don't affect with my motor skills, really. Right. You know? So and and, I mean I mean, as long as I've been taking them, I've, you know, never ever had a problem, but, I mean, that's not to say   I haven't developed  

[00:05:22] Duuude-Ron :

a you know, because A reaction to it. Yeah. Yeah. Because,  

[00:05:26] Rich Chelson:

you know, your body changes all the time. So   what what you can take today may not be what you can take tomorrow.  

[00:05:36] Unknown:

Very true.  

[00:05:37] Rich Chelson:

So,   yeah, I don't know. But, yeah, that's that's something I've been   fighting real hard with the past couple weeks, and   it's just like it's like, fuck.   And I am so glad I moved out of Missouri.  

[00:05:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really? Why?  

[00:06:00] Rich Chelson:

Well,   I got a letter in the mail today. Well, it wasn't a letter. It was a fucking bill.   Oh. It was property taxes from last year. Right?  

[00:06:11] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:06:12] Rich Chelson:

Now   now I know when I signed up for,   you know, for property taxes and all like this, you know,   that I gave them my email address   and my phone number. Right?  

[00:06:26] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah.  

[00:06:28] Rich Chelson:

Do you think they could   call me or send me an email?   No.  

[00:06:34] Duuude-Ron :

They can't do that. No. They're not gonna do that. They're gonna send you a formal letter.  

[00:06:39] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. No. They   they finally sent   my, property tax bill three months late,   and they tacked on an extra 50 some fucking dollars   to my property taxes  

[00:06:53] Duuude-Ron :

because it wasn't paid by December 31. Well, that's not your problem anymore, is it?  

[00:06:59] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah, it is because I had to fucking pay it.   I thought oh, that's for last year. Yeah. That's for last year. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Never mind. So yeah. So, yeah, I had to pay it. I was like I was like, what the hell?   You you you know, I'm sitting here thinking this. Like, hold it. I know I gave y'all my email address,   and I know I gave y'all my phone number.   You   I mean, you really couldn't think.   You know, when you sent the thing out and it got returned,   you know, because because they probably had my, post office box in Mercer, and it got returned. You you would have thought they would have been and and this is not a very big office. Okay?   I mean, they know everybody and their brother and their and their sister and their and their kids, their kids' kids,   and the kids' kids four generations down.  

They know them all personally, but don't know.   So yeah. So, yeah, it was, like, 400 and some fucking dollars a day.   I was like, good god.  

[00:08:04] Duuude-Ron :

Damn you.   That's it. They're one of those where you're, like, shaking your face going, damn you.  

[00:08:12] Rich Chelson:

You're right. Because yeah. And and I called him because I was like, oh, no. I ain't   oh, fuck this. I ain't waiting. I'm I'm fucking getting this shit paid for.   And,   I called him. I'm like,   you know   and and I I started to ask a question,   and I stopped because a girl was acting   like she didn't have a fucking clue for anything.  

[00:08:37] Unknown:

Oh my god.  

[00:08:38] Rich Chelson:

It's stupid. I'm not dealing with stupid. Just fucking pay it. And then   oh god. This   this here was the icing on the cake. Right?   She said it's $401.63.   I said, okay. Gave her the card number and all that.   And she's like, well, it's gonna charge you $10 and some cents. Is that okay?  

[00:09:01] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it must be.  

[00:09:04] Rich Chelson:

And I and and that's exactly what I told her. I said, it's gotta be okay because you're a thousand miles from me.   I was like, oh my god.   So, yeah, I was just like, yeah. Just fucking pay the shit. Get it done. Get it over with. Get it the fuck out of my hair.   Yeah. Okay. I'm done waiting for a minute.   Well, by God, it just it just it just agitated me. Yeah.   I mean I mean, with with   with all of the ways   that that that these businesses   or government, county governments, whatever, as a way to get a hold of any motherfucker,   do you think they would exercise it? Oh, no.  

That's too much like work.  

[00:10:01] Duuude-Ron :

That's okay. Yeah.  

[00:10:03] Rich Chelson:

I'm down here. I   I I ain't going back up there because it gets too fucking cold up there. So   I ain't going back up north that far.   So what you been up to?  

[00:10:17] Duuude-Ron :

I haven't been up to much, really. Just   just been   driving out and driving around.   Had some adventure. What was it been?   Tuesday night. Yeah. Tuesday night.   Had a bit of adventure.   So   Inquiring minds wanna hear about this. Well, I figured you might, but, you know, I wasn't gonna presume.   But at the same time, I was hoping you're gonna say, yeah. So  

[00:10:46] Rich Chelson:

Really?   I mean, come on. You had an adventure.  

[00:10:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, it was I   went to, went over to Broken Bow to, pick up a load of, of engineered wood as Hooper likes to call it.  

[00:11:01] Rich Chelson:

Lakewood.   Okay.  

[00:11:03] Duuude-Ron :

And,   so it's it you know, it's it's   particle wood particle board or or OSB or however you wanna describe it. It's just their form of it.   And, I was in a flatbed because, well, I had to go pick up a, a load,   load for,   that was destined for for Dallas First.   Mhmm. And so I was there, went,   and had a   had a flatbed,   dropped my my Conestoga off in Fletcher.   So I had to had to take that,   that trailer that I had back over to Duke so I could pick up the load to go to,   to go to Tyler. So I'd get to Tyler,   and all that, get unloaded, but I'm still on a flatbed. Then I have to go up to,   up to a broken boat.  

So I'm on a flatbed.   And when I'm on a flatbed, I   I have to look at what's the, the weather a lot closer because   rain is if rain's in the forecast, that means I'm gonna have to fucking tarp. And I really don't care to tarp, But, you know, if it's gonna rain and I've got wood that that's not supposed to get wet,   you know, I'm gonna have to tarp.  

[00:12:15] Rich Chelson:

Right?  

[00:12:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   I've sat there and looked nothing. Nothing in the nothing in the forecast,   nothing, in the hour indicate   the, the hourly,   segments of the forecast. Everything's looks like it's dry as a flipping bone.   Right. So I about, about 10:00 that night. I was like, alright. Well, it's time to go to bed. So I   go back to the back, turn you know, plug my phone in, go to bed, go to sleep.   About 02:00 in the morning,   I have a,   a KFOR   out of,   at Oklahoma City. Their app   has voice announcements   for different weather,   events.   So K. From time to time, especially in this time of the year, we'll get anything   from,   lightning's been detected in your location to heavy rain has been detected in your location or or,   you know, dense fog has been located in your area. You know? You got a lot of different announcements that come up. When anytime Noah or,   makes a, makes a weather statement,   they broadcast the weather statement through the,   through the app.  

So about 02:00 in the morning, and I hear, lightning's been detected in your area location. And I'm like,   lightning has been detected in my honor. Son of a gun.   So I poke my head out,   look around.   Nothing. I look pull up, pull up,   weather bug,   the weather channel,   KFOR.   And, another one that I have found that I've gotten around to where I really like, but I like it more for the just the wind, when the it did,   indicator.   But it's called Ventusky.   And you can sit there and set it up for, you know, different,   different settings and things like that. It's it's really cool.  

So I   look at it, and I was like, we'll see what,   pull up precipitation   and stuff. And I look at all of them, and it shows, yeah, there's a   there's a storm   right around Paris, but everything was showing that it was going   east and south.   And so when it's going east and south, you wanna look north and west to make sure there's nothing bigger coming and didn't see anything. It was all just right below Paris, Texas. Yeah. Alright. Cool.   So I lay back down,   go back to sleep.   And about thirty minutes later, I hear   real starting to get real rapid on on the, on the on my sleeper. And I'm like, oh, shit. It's fucking raining. I pull up the I I,   open up my phone because it's still gonna be on radar again. And sure enough, there's big, big old glob set right on top of me. I'm like, son of a bitch. I get all dressed and stuff. And the problem   with Uber loads is that when you have them stacked because I had it had it stacked in where there were four bundles   in a in a cluster. So there there was a stack of, of four. So you had two on the left side, two on the,   stacked on top of each other, two on the right side stacked on the on top of each other, and there were three   rows   of those stacks.  

So there's 12 bundles.   Yep. The problem is is when you have 12 bundles like that and Hoover makes their shit tall.   So this was six foot tall worth of of   of wood,   And I'm a fat man and   trying to, trying to and what I normally do whenever I'm climbing on top of the wood is I'll get my fingers up underneath the, the strap and pull myself up. But I also use the use toe the toe hold,   on the space between   each stack because usually they've got some type of Schluter or dunnage in between there to hold everything apart.   Right. So that the forklifts get underneath them.  

Well,   it was too skinny for my damn shoes, so I ended up having to shuck my shoes off, set them on top of the, on top of the bundles so I can get my toes wedged in between there so I can get myself pulled up.   And so it's raining pretty good. You it's the all the horizontal surfaces are now wet, and I'm like, son of a bitch. Damn it. This is gonna suck. I hope the I hope this wood doesn't   swell. This is gonna I'm gonna the load's gonna get rejected. Oh god. I'm gonna get   my I'm gonna lose lose the world.   And I get everything all first first,   set of carbs, I get it all set up. I get it set down, pull take the bungees off, get it rolled out,   and all that, and I get start start throwing the, the flaps over on the sides.  

And my curse with   with,   with tarps   kicked in the moment I let that other let the second side of the of the flaps go.   And my curse is the moment that moment I put cover,   let the flaps down on both sides,   the rain stops.   Happens   every damn   time with me. If I get caught in a rainstorm, and it's not really much and most time, it's just a it's just a really good soft rain. It's a solid soft rain. This one's coming down pretty good.   So and I get it all rolled out. I get it pulled and dropped, and I get the first set throw on the second. And I mean, the moment I let go, it's coming down, coming down, coming down. It's coming down. Stop.   I was like, you fuck I mean, the top of it didn't get wet at all.  

Top of the tarp didn't get wet. Nothing. I was like, so are you fucking kidding me?   Because once you got the first tarp thrown, you might as well go on ahead and get the second one strolled out because just in case another one comes along. So I got it all sprung out. I got the ends,   sewn up, and I went ahead and just put a couple bungees on the front and the back of, of the corners.   And I really didn't even have to do much on that because the bundles all four bundles are as long   as our tarps are.   Yeah.   So, basically, I if I wanted to, I could have had just used one tarp and used it as a smoke tarp, and it would have been just fine. But, so I just put four   four bungees on the on the corners just to make sure that in case the wind comes along, tries to pick something up, it's not gonna move anything much.  

Mhmm.   And go to bed. It's like,   fuck it in the morning. If it's raining, I'll button it all the way up. If it's, dry, then I will I'll just take everything off, and I'll just roll it all back up, and we'll call it a day.   Nope. Not a damn thing.   Got up got up at six, and   then, like, nope. Nope. Window's dry.   Ground's dry. Everything's dry. It's like, son of a gun. It's only   you wouldn't have known that it was it was a coming trying to be a gully washer,   that night, but it would it it,   in my opinion, it was, and then   got everything all all,   all rolled back up, and I got my tarps all strapped back down   and all that, and I was able to take off. But yeah. Yeah. That   doesn't like getting all all hot and sweaty, and they're not be and not be because of a woman either. So Yeah. Like, damn it. This is rude. I don't care, dude. I know. It is. It's like mother nature. Come on, man.  



[00:19:59] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That just,   yeah, if I'd done all that work, I'd have just buttoned them up in the morning and said, fuck it. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. I'm like, fuck this. You know? Yeah.   So  

[00:20:13] Duuude-Ron :

So but, yep. Now now I'm getting I'm over here   in over here in Vernon, Texas getting ready to head over to,   over to Longview. Drop this load off at Longview in the morning and   grab a load for, out of Jefferson to go up to Oklahoma City and probably just take it all the way over to Canute and, drop it off in the morning or on Monday morning.  

[00:20:34] Rich Chelson:

That works.  

[00:20:36] Unknown:

So  

[00:20:38] Rich Chelson:

Nothing wrong with that.  

[00:20:42] Duuude-Ron :

Bill might complain a little bit.   Dispatch   guy might complain a little bit just because I'm taking the load   path where where it needs to go. A lot of times in the if I have if I'm gonna miss it on the,   on the weekend,   like, on Friday, and I missed the turn missed the, the the,   the receiving time.   Mhmm. He wants me to drop it off over at   over at, a little yard that we have   that, that we were in a couple spaces on. I'm not going, really?   No. It's not it's not in it. That way I can just get over there.  

[00:21:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. If I'm not gonna make it, I just take it home. No one's gonna fuck with it.  

[00:21:22] Duuude-Ron :

I'm an hour and a half beyond   Oklahoma City. But   other than that, I mean, what have I been up to other than that, I'm not really much of that I've been up to. I've got the   got   my   new dog yard all   somewhat set up.   It was,   it was about 20 foot shy   of how I really wanted it.   So I ended up having to make a small altercation so that I could get,   so I can get the ends to meet properly.   Okay. But, other than that, I mean, the dogs seem to enjoy it.   I've got the the big stump of of a of a tree that,   where my where my black, locust tree fell over.   They have fun with using it as a ring as a as a means to play   round robin on.  

So they'll chase each other all the way around it several times and stop, turn, go the other direction. So   Yay.  

[00:22:34] Rich Chelson:

Well, it's not it's not like the dogs will worry about   20 feet, so they don't care. Nah.   They can just run around and be themselves.  

[00:22:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So   but I'm still trying to decide   are still waiting to hear   from,   from work to see if they're actually   doing   doing the,   the hotshotting.   And they may be doing it because   one of the, one of the drivers who's more   who's used to doing   heavy loads like that   Mhmm. He got he got asked by,   by,   one of the, one of the owners if, if he was all if he knew how to haul,   pump jacks.   Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This ain't hard to haul pump jacks. So maybe something's going on.   But if if nothing happens here within the next I'm gonna give them two more weeks. And if nothing happens within the two weeks, I'm just gonna have to say.   Y'all are taking too long.  



[00:23:51] Unknown:

Right?   And,  

[00:23:54] Duuude-Ron :

man, there's a lot of perks and advantages   to,   to the,   to the the other job that I'm I'm looking at.   But the, but the drawback is that, is is bit more than what   I really wanna have.   What do you mean? I don't wanna be gone for three weeks at a time.  

[00:24:20] Rich Chelson:

No. I I mean, I can understand that.  

[00:24:26] Duuude-Ron :

Not to mention my my   my phone is, not my phone. My car is   is,   is dying slowly, so I'm a fix that to go off just to find a hoopty that my wife can drive till   till we get that car paid off.  

[00:24:42] Rich Chelson:

Well,   you know, the the hoopty is is forever. You know that. Right?  

[00:24:48] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   typically, yeah.  

[00:24:52] Rich Chelson:

I mean I mean, we've all had hoopties, and, you know, we're skills to wear, so shit. I'd drive a hoopty again.  

[00:24:59] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. Hooptys are   are are good cars. You just, you   know, you just,   you just gotta get, used to the fenders clacking as you're going down the road.  

[00:25:13] Rich Chelson:

Right.   And you hit a bump, you just you just have to ride the wave for the next five miles. It's just a little bit harder.  

[00:25:23] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Yeah. Yeah. You gotta ride the way for a little while. You know? You gotta have to look in your mirror and make sure you didn't lose a bumper or anything. So  

[00:25:31] Rich Chelson:

I no. I get it. You know? I get it. But,   you know, if I had to go back to Hoop team, by god, I'd roll it.   I would I would I would roll the hell out of it.  

[00:25:43] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[00:25:46] Rich Chelson:

But   if I don't have to go the Hoopty route, I won't. You know?   Right.  

[00:25:53] Duuude-Ron :

So   but  

[00:25:56] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. It it's just   it's just after after a while, it's just like, man, I really don't wanna do a hootie.  

[00:26:05] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I kinda like you know?   I I I like   Hoopty seem to be a little bit more durable. I mean, that's the reason why they are hooptys. They they   they yeah. They you may not have a actual   tub in your floor anymore. You may be, you know, actually, you know, putting your feet on the sides of the, sides of the of the,   of the floorboard because there's not a floorboard no more.   Right.   But, you know, at the same time, you   know, I've also known   vehicles that, you know, when you stop, it would die.   I've had a few And so you had to crank it, and and   a friend of mine actually went off and had this set up.  

Incredible idea   because it was just not something you would actually think of. You didn't smoke around him when you're in his car because there's a lot of times where if he got it came to a it came to a stop,   it would,   it would die on him.   And so and it well, it was a van. It wasn't a car, but it was a van.   And, it was a part it was it was a hell of a fun party van, but it was a van. And it when he stopped, it would die. So what he would have to do is he'd you know, the part the in access to the engine was also from the inside of the van. So he would take that center hump out out   and, hand he would hand the passenger a can of ether, and he'd say, start spraying it into the air breather.  

And so he would   just squirt squirt squirt squirt squirt squirt.   Shut the put the firewall back on, and away you would go, and it would run until you stopped again.   Oh my god.  

[00:27:55] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shit.   Well, so   so if you asked him for a ride, he was gonna make you work for it. You had to work for it. Yeah.   Damn.  

[00:28:09] Duuude-Ron :

That and you started if you needed to make a left hand turn, you started making a whole bunch of right hand turns.   Oh. That way you didn't have to stop the intersection. You just kinda keep we made a because, you know, four,   three left three rights make a left. So Right. Right.  

[00:28:28] Rich Chelson:

That is funny.   That's just that's just funny.  

[00:28:32] Duuude-Ron :

So   yeah. I've heard some crazy things, but that's Oh, hell yeah. No. That was that's one thing I was trying to tell my son back when he first got his his pickup.   The first pickup he got, he at first, he was a little disappointed. At least he I got the impression that he was a little disappointed.   And I told him, I was like, no. Don't don't get upset because it's not a brand spanking new, you know,   Ford f one fifty or whatever it was you was wanting at that moment   because this pickup will sit in your mind   for   for   years after you've had   more more pickups. I mean, my first car was a '72 Ford Maverick.  

Love the shit out of that car. It was a freaking tank. I I mean, it wasn't fast.   I stood on it. It would sit there. I might make it up to about seventy   seventy five almost 75, not quite. It would sit there and just have right around 70.   Just running as large as they can.   Of   course, if you went over over 55 miles an hour, it was gonna tattle on you, whenever you got home because the moment you got it pulled in and you turned the car off, it would.   It would backfire on you and wake everybody in there. So so I couldn't sneak into this, sneak back home.   And in the morning, good god, the the startup,   process for for that damn car   was a was a was a,   an exercise in patience.  

Because when it was cold,   you would go to crank it, and it would it would cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cray cr   Crank. Crank. Crank. Crank. Start kick. Start kick. Start kick. Start kick. And they would die again. You tried three or four more times. Eventually, it would start to   and fart and do, I mean, everything else. And you would sit there. You had to keep your foot on the pet all the way smashed all the way down. You took it up, it would go down you again. You had to start from scratch. Mhmm. So so it would sit there, and it would cough, spit, spurt, and everything else.   And,   and and it would do that for probably about five minutes. So just   and then it went   come to life, and then it all was good. And the only issue yeah. And you knew that it was good because it would belt a big cloud black cloud of smoke out.  

And it would leave a big old it'd be at my side where I parked, I always had this big old soot mark   on on the driveway because it would fall and it fart itself out. Then it was all okay. We're all good. I'd   activate you know, take off the,   the the   the the handbrake, which was just it looked it was the shape of a hand came,   and you pull and you pulled it straight out.   And when you wanna release it, you gave it a half turn or a quarter turn and pushed it back in, and that's how you worked to operate the the,   the emergency brake.  



[00:31:46] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god. Yeah. Oh god.  

[00:31:49] Duuude-Ron :

Amazing car.   Right. I mean, hell, I shot I shot a 22 through the through the floorboard once,   because I was, I was   I was hunting,   I was hunting rabbits for the roadside.   And   so I I went to grab it, and I grabbed the piss the the trigger at the same time and flame. Oh, son of a bit. Oh, well. Okay. We didn't well, I got out, looked underneath there to make sure the bullet didn't skip up and hit, like, the oil pan or something.   And, not nothing nothing dripping. So I was like, alright. Cool.   Couldn't slam on the brakes hard, though, either. That was the other thing. If you hit now you could you could stand on the brake and get stopped,   but you couldn't do it fast.  

Because if you did, you blew up the the the master cylinder.   I did that four or five times, and I've   because I'd go to the I'd be driving around town or something. Someone holler at me, and I'd go to stop. And, you know, I'd hit that brake real hard. You'd hear it go.   And it's just like, ah, shit. Well, we ain't gonna stop now. So   Damn, dude. So it was it was great. It was a fun little car. Yeah. I went through, like, four or five different, master cylinders on that damn thing.   Wow.   That's crazy.   So   how about you? Do you have a and what was your what was your one of your favorite cars besides for the one you have right now?  

[00:33:18] Rich Chelson:

Well, my first car was a '68 Bel Air, which is basically like an Impala.   Yeah. It was it was a Bel Air, and, I mean, I loved it. It had a 03/27   in it with a   a turbo three fifty   behind it. And I I mean, I loved the shit out of it. Had it for three weeks and   lost control on the gravel road and just fucking   bent the car all up.   So,   I went and found another body   and,   pulled my motor out, rebuilt my motor, and put it back in and   just went to town on it. And, yeah, I just I was I I mean, that car fired up whenever I wanted it. I mean,   god dang.  

She would fly   10, hundred and 20 mile an hour. And Oh, yeah. In fact, we actually had cars with,  

[00:34:09] Duuude-Ron :

with horsepower.  

[00:34:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And it it was, yeah, it was a stock three twenty seven, but,   I tell you what,   that was that was back when motors were built. Right?  

[00:34:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. They were. And, I mean,  

[00:34:26] Rich Chelson:

I tell you guys, I I ran to piss out that car. I I never really had,   too much problems out of that car. But later on, I did have a a Olds Olds Delta 88.   Now that was a fucking hooptie. Had a 03/2005   with another   turbo three fifty under it.   And, yeah, she'd run, but,   yeah. Yeah. If you hit bumps,   you just rode the wave constantly.   You you never really   had a smooth ride in that car. It was just up and down constantly.  

[00:35:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Sounds like my friend's Catalina.  

[00:35:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, they're freaking party at Catalina's.   But yeah. No. But but I still love that old Delta eighty eight. That bitch was nice.  

[00:35:13] Duuude-Ron :

I bet.  

[00:35:14] Rich Chelson:

I I just and   yeah, shit. Those cars got, what, you know, maybe 15 miles to the gallon? Oh, if you drove if you drove responsibly, yeah.   Well,   yeah, I was young, dude. No. I didn't Well, yeah. That well, driving responsibly  

[00:35:30] Duuude-Ron :

is, you know,   keep it within a reasonable 70 mile an hour,   speed   at a respectable amount of time.  

[00:35:40] Rich Chelson:

But see see, the thing is, though, this was back this was back when gas was 85¢   a gallon  

[00:35:47] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly. Yeah. You know? Or 75¢.  

[00:35:50] Rich Chelson:

You know? I mean, I mean, gas was pretty damn cheap.  

[00:35:53] Duuude-Ron :

But Oh, yeah.  

[00:35:54] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No.   No. No. It was Delta 88. I I   I like that one. I had another Oldsmobile when I was in the military when I was in Fort Riley,   and, god, I can't remember what it was. It was a slant back.   I mean, it was uglier than sand.   It was a slant back,   Oldsmobile. I can't remember what kind it was.   It was a four door, and it had a v six in it.   And I'd go cruising in it, trying to look cool riding down the the Strip. Right?   Uh-huh. In the Fort Riley, Kansas. And   I'd roll up to a light. I didn't care who was sitting behind me.   I'd fucking rev my motor up. I wanted to race them. And the bad thing is it it it fucking sounded like I was gonna throw a rod at any time.  



[00:36:43] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:36:45] Rich Chelson:

It did too. Yeah. And,   I mean, people were laughing   and everything like this, but believe it or not,   for that thing sounding like he was gonna throw a ride,   I kept up with a couple of them. Now I got totally smoked by an old four four two.   That motherfucker   just lifted   all four lifted straight up and took off. Oh my god.   I mean, it was beautiful. I loved it. You know?   I did smoke a Mustang,   Ford Mustang. I think it was   a a 68,   I wanna say.   K. That's a dumb   because   most Mustang owners are stupid when they race,   okay, and they dump the clutch.  

Thinking that it's gonna just hook up and go.   No, you dumbass. It's not. You're gonna sit there and smoke the tires well.   He dumped the clutch, was sitting there smoking the tires. And while he was smoking the tires, I was already halfway to the next light. And by the time he caught up to me, I had already gone through that next lane and was hitting the site. He finally passed me about one and a half blocks later. Pissed him off.   But   me and that old that that one that was sounding like it was fixing to explode any second,   I honestly had a hell of a lot of fun with that bitch.  

That was   because it it because that's the thing. No one thought it would run. Hell, I didn't think it would run.   And then when I was like, fuck. I didn't care if I won or lost. I just wanted to race.  

[00:38:26] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:38:27] Rich Chelson:

I just I just ran it, and   that car never blew up.   I sold it, I think.   I'll never know what happened to that car.   I I sold it or traded it, I think, if I remember right.   But, yeah, that was   it didn't look like shit. Didn't look like nothing. I'll tell you that.   But by God, it had a good radio in it,   and   it got me around where I needed to go.  

[00:38:58] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's cool. So, David, how about you? What was your favorite car she ever had?  

[00:39:05] Unknown:

My current.  

[00:39:06] Duuude-Ron :

Your current?  

[00:39:07] Unknown:

Yeah. The Jeep. The four door Jeep. Well, both Jeeps, actually.   However,   talking about going back with cars,   my mom had   an Impala,   Chevy Impala   Uh-huh. Four   forest green,   immaculate,   all OEM.   And, you know, she got it when we're probably   and it was used.   We she got it when we're, like me and my brother were, like,   seven, eight   ish. Hell, I don't know.   But she babied that car. You know? It was it it was immaculate. So me and my brother,   getting ready to get our driver's licenses.   So what do they do?   They trade   that   immaculate   Impala in   for a Ford Mustang   two.  



[00:40:07] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. That Mustang two is  

[00:40:10] Unknown:

The ugliest   fucking   Mustang   that they ever produced, and   the the Apollo was a a v eight.   That Mustang two was barely a fucking four cylinder.   Piece of fucking   shit.   Mhmm. So,   you know,   Yeah. That's what we got stuck with.  

[00:40:38] Rich Chelson:

Damn.  

[00:40:39] Unknown:

So and, of course, we couldn't get two cars,   one for each of us. No. Me and my brother had to share one fucking car.   So I god.   To get fucking ridiculous.   But, you know,   we weren't rich folk,   so it was what it was.   Let's see.  

[00:41:02] Rich Chelson:

And then stink too, man. That just I I'm sorry. That's just  

[00:41:06] Duuude-Ron :

Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. That would I'm I I would I would have to cry for I'd cry for you too.   Right.  

[00:41:14] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I yeah. I did. No. That that was Ford's that was Ford's biggest mistake right there is is a Mustang too. I  

[00:41:24] Unknown:

Well,   I'd have to I'd have to differ with you.   It's the fucking,   that   fucking Mustang,   e v  

[00:41:38] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, the the Mustang Lightning?  

[00:41:42] Unknown:

No. The fucking SUV version of the Mustang. Yeah. Yeah. That's the Lightning.  

[00:41:47] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. I don't know what the hell it that was Oh, yeah. It's uglier shit. Yeah. Oh my god. That dude. Well, they've got the f one fifty Lightning also. It's an electric pickup of all things. It's like, okay. Yeah. No. We're not playing this game.  

[00:42:02] Rich Chelson:

I've never I've   I've never heard of either one. I mean, I'm I mean, I mean, the Ford Lightning,   that was a pickup truck   way before.  

[00:42:12] Unknown:

Yeah. It was.  

[00:42:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, they used to have the Ford Maverick as a car. It's now a pickup. It's like, come on. Let's not go pick No. I've seen those. Yeah.   I was like Yeah. It Gotta cry. We gotta need to pull one out from my old car now.  

[00:42:26] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. Freaking they freaking replaced the Ranger, which I don't know why they fucking replaced the Ranger.  

[00:42:33] Duuude-Ron :

I know. They even had a had their own theme song for the Ranger. I mean, come on.   I mean,  

[00:42:41] Rich Chelson:

the Ford Ranger back in the day was the   the bomb.   It would run forever if it broke. You go to junkyard and get other parts. Parts were freaking cheap.   I mean, literally, it was it was   a very economical   low cost pickup truck. Yeah. Couldn't hold no fucking 30 foot yacht, but   it could fucking run up and down the road for fucking ever.  

[00:43:08] Unknown:

Yeah. And if you had yeah. And if you even had a load in the back of the pickup, let alone a fucking small trailer,   that was it was bogged down.  

[00:43:19] Duuude-Ron :

But Sir, steering is not optional.  

[00:43:24] Unknown:

But, again, it fucking   exactly.   Exactly.  

[00:43:30] Rich Chelson:

It wouldn't give up the ghost   Nope. Or nothing.  

[00:43:35] Duuude-Ron :

And Now and that I think that was Ford's   means of trying to go up against the,   the Tundra back when the the Tundra was just a little bitty, utility pickup.   That was the same class as what the Ranger was.   Because my coach had the had the little Toyota pickup,   and he's like   I he was, like, drove that thing   forever.   I I don't even I don't know. I I bet I lost track of of my football of the of the coach Chisholm a long time ago,   but I don't know. He basically would still have that damn pickup around. He he never did sell it.  

[00:44:17] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's the thing. Toyota made a hell of a vehicle even even before they were American made.  

[00:44:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:44:23] Rich Chelson:

And and the, freaking Toyota pickup yeah. You're right. It was you know, the Ford Ranger,   you know, when they   made it as small as that, I mean I mean, the Toyota   was more like a little Tonka toy, but, I mean, it'd run forever.   Yep. I mean, good god. You could run the wheels off of it, put new ones on, and keep going.   Yep. And the Ford Ranger was about the same way. I know a guy that   that's all he drove for years was Ford Rangers.   And Oh, yeah. Just, you know, one   he got a crack in the exhaust manifold.   He just JB welded the bitch   and drove around with it. And then, his friend had a junkyard,   and it was 99%   Fords.  

And so   he went and got him a a,   you know, exhaust manifold   for, like, $20   and threw it on   and away he went. You know? Just kept going.   Yeah. And so but   I don't know why   fucking Ford had to stop making a Ranger and go and call it a Maverick.  

[00:45:34] Duuude-Ron :

I know. That was that's the thing. I I like I said, I Yeah. Wanted to pull one out for my darn car after seeing one of those. I'm like, that's not right. It's not a pickup. It's supposed to be a car. It's a little two seater.  

[00:45:48] Unknown:

Yeah. The Maverick is   electric, isn't it?  

[00:45:53] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. I don't know. I don't think so.   Okay. I I I could be wrong because I don't I don't keep up with   these new cars nowadays. I don't know what is electric   or not electric.   No. It's gas.   It has a two point o or the 2.54   cylinder.  

[00:46:13] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   It's ugly.  

[00:46:17] Duuude-Ron :

It's a four cylinder. Hell, they even stole two cylinders from the from the Maverick car.   At least the Maverick is at least the car my '72 Maverick was a six cylinder. It was an inline six.   Yep. So, I mean, yeah, you could you could actually probably curl up in the engine compartment and with the engine still in it and still have room to do a somersault.   Right.   It would look   it was it was a   but hell. Like I said, the little thing would just sit there just   it was the little engine that could.   It wouldn't give up on you. No.  

[00:46:53] Rich Chelson:

Alright. No. They Oh, yeah. It  

[00:46:57] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I was just what would you say?  

[00:46:59] Rich Chelson:

I was gonna say those, inline sixes   from Ford were were freaking bulletproof.  

[00:47:06] Duuude-Ron :

Pretty much.  

[00:47:07] Rich Chelson:

Literally, they were bulletproof.   I could never blow one up.  

[00:47:13] Duuude-Ron :

I never tried because I knew my dad would have my hat if I've ended up blowing an engine up.   So   it's   but now,   my my friend John Harbison, he's the one that had the, the Catalina. I think it was a I forget what. I don't even know what year it was. But, yeah, it was dubbed the land yacht because any because,   Sunray had a a dip on Main Street,   And you'd hit that thing, and his car would sit there and ride that wave all the way to the other side of of town   and and stuff, and it was all the blast. Then our another friend of mine, he got from his grandma   a,   I think, early sixties Cadillac.  

It was the one it was the one that had the,   that the the fill tank was inside the fit,   Whatever year that was.   Because the first time he had to try to fill that up, he   combed that car up one side down the other and could not fill find the fill cap   until,   until one of the old timers come by. He was he he the buyer in the car and stuff, and he was like, I can't find and he'd have brute butch had to tell us, I can't figure out where the damn damn,   fuel tank,   where the fill port is. He   reached over to one of the fins and, and the the lights just opened it up. He's like, it was out there. He's like, so  

[00:48:45] Rich Chelson:

I I can't I can't remember the year of it, but, yeah, I remember   I remember seeing one like that, I think. It was fuck cool as hell.  

[00:48:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But, hell, we used to sit there and almost stuff most of our, most of our classmates in there.   So   in in the back seat of his car and stuff, I mean, we would   you know, we had 42 kids in our in my in my senior class.   And so and just about as many in the junior class. And, I mean, yeah, we would get, you know, 25 kids stuffed in there.   And it was it was a blast. We you know, it was nothing but arms and legs hanging out the windows. That's okay because, hell, you could always   always cop a feel on the girl that was sitting next to you, and they wouldn't know who it was. So And where it's   game on. Hell, yeah. It was   and they would just laugh and tell   and holler,   oh, my boobs. Stop it. I can't move.  



[00:49:45] Rich Chelson:

Well, guess what? I'm gonna feel some more.  

[00:49:51] Duuude-Ron :

So it was a yeah. Yeah. It was a blast. It was a good old time. I mean, hell, they don't they don't even have high school like that no more.   Oh, no. Oh god. No. Poor kids. They don't even know what Dragon Maids all about.   No.   No.   No. Because,  

[00:50:10] Rich Chelson:

they've   they've, pretty much,   outlawed that.  

[00:50:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. I don't know if they've outlawed it, but I know that, next,   next August when it comes to,   when it comes to fun day, I think I'm gonna head on down there, and I think I'll join the rest of the rest of the old timers,   and they do it. They basically cruise Maine all night long on on Sunday,   Sunday night. So   just show the kids what's what's   fun what fun actually is.  

[00:50:43] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:50:49] Unknown:

Barry Allen, let me  

[00:50:51] Duuude-Ron :

We used to Cruise  

[00:50:53] Unknown:

0 Street   in Lincoln,   which is actually   Highway 34,   which in turn is the longest   straight   street   in The United States.   I think it's a 88   miles with no more   than a one   degree turn.  

[00:51:21] Duuude-Ron :

Damn. You got a long ass long ass drag, man.   What y'all do? Go down one end, fill up with gas, go back to the other end, fill up with gas, go back down?  

[00:51:32] Unknown:

No. We I'd you know, even though that   0 Street was Highway 34,   we went from Ninth Street   to 70   Second Street   and repeat and repeat   several times. Ways.  

[00:51:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I know I know 0 Street in Lincoln.  

[00:51:53] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:51:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I've drove yeah. I've drove 34 across   across through Lincoln quite a few times.  

[00:52:01] Unknown:

Yep. And went right next   went right past the Prick Of The Prairie.  

[00:52:10] Duuude-Ron :

And who's that?  

[00:52:12] Unknown:

The State Capitol Building. Have you ever seen   Nebraska State Capitol Building?   It's the tallest building. It's it's the tallest building in the fucking state.   It's called the Prick Of The Prairie.   Just looks like a fucking hard on sitting in the prairie.   Look it up sometime.   But it's the tallest building in this   it's the tall I believe it's the tallest building   in the state of Nebraska.  

[00:52:43] Duuude-Ron :

The Hilton Springfield is the one that you're mentioning. Never mind. There's   yeah. There's there's one in Springfield that they call Prick Of The Prairie also, but,   yeah, the   looks like the, state Building   is   see here.   That's a little that's a little more penis shaped.   Yeah. Prick Of The Prairie or Penis Of The Prairie.  

[00:53:13] Unknown:

Yep.   So that building right there, and Rich drove by it several times.   Every day,   except for when we got, you know, car when we were in high school,   I walked through that building   every single day   because that building was in the way of and it's a four square block   area that that that the capital sits on.   So we walked through it from the bus stop   down to the high school, which was about five blocks to the south   of   the Capitol Building.   So we walked through there every day,   you know, coming to school and going back from school to go to the, bus stop downtown   to get home.  

Yeah.   That was the funner things in life. Not   but, yeah,  

[00:54:15] Rich Chelson:

now Well, in Lincoln, Nebraska, that was fun, I guess.  

[00:54:20] Unknown:

Well, you know,   we had to do something for fun.   But when we cruise when then see, we cruised o Street.   My parents   cruised   o Street.   My   my grandparents   cruised o Street.  

[00:54:43] Rich Chelson:

I am.  

[00:54:45] Unknown:

So   and now   cruising,   it well,   I think it happened in   because I left there in '86, went into the military.   It was in the mid   nineties   that they basically put a ban   on cruising 0 Street because   it they had too many   drive by shootings.  

[00:55:12] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[00:55:14] Unknown:

So,   you know, they ban cruising. So   if a cop,   saw your vehicle   up and back, and if you came back,   you're pulled over.   You could go up and back,   and that was it.   And if they saw you a third time, they pulled you over, and they gave you a ticket.   And we used to sit at Capital Tires. We called it Cabs, which is right across the street from Safeway.   And you'd know Safeway. It was right there before   forty no.   It's either 30 Third or 40 Eighth Street.   Okay. Yeah. You remember that Safeway?  

[00:56:01] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[00:56:02] Unknown:

Okay. Right across and see, the the kids from Northeast   High School   hung out in the Safeway.   My group   hung out right across the street   at Capitol Tire.   But, you know, we never had any major rivalries upon high schools. Yeah. Maybe you might   hear a few words thrown back and forth, but that was about it.   Right. But we cruised to go   have fun.   But yeah.   And then what was it?   They have a a big   car show   there in   August, September or something.   And it's, you know, hot rods.  

[00:56:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. It's the good guys, isn't it?  

[00:56:59] Unknown:

I believe so. Yeah.   Because a friend of my mom's   had a t bird or still has a t bird.   And so he'll go out cruising, but, yeah, they go they take the hot rods on that Friday and Saturday night and go cruising down o street.   But that's that's the only ones that the cops that now I don't know anymore   because I haven't been there   in forever and a day,   especially cruising.   But they they allow the hot rods to go cruising.  

[00:57:35] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. I mean I mean I mean, they know they know the hot I mean,  

[00:57:39] Unknown:

I don't know what I mean.   I just So yes.  

[00:57:44] Rich Chelson:

But but, I mean, you know, look.   The old dudes that are cruising are drinking Metamucil. So  

[00:57:51] Unknown:

Exactly.  

[00:57:52] Rich Chelson:

You know, none none of them's gotta worry about drinking and driving or anything like that. You know?  

[00:57:58] Unknown:

No. No. Exactly.   Right.  

[00:58:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. It's yeah. I'd I'd noticed there was,   quite a few,   cities that have   basically banned   well,   banned cruising,   you know, cruising the strips, and then that just that just kinda basically   let us into,   you know, what we have now. You know, people well, I mean, shoot. You know, kids nowadays,   you know, it takes them twenty years to, get a driver's license because they're scared.  

[00:58:32] Unknown:

Well, that   and they could care less. Well,   we didn't have cell phones back then. We didn't have computers. We didn't have none of that shit. Yeah. You know? So that was our form of entertainment.   Kids these days don't even fucking go outside.   There was something I heard on the news that   a mom   shut down the Internet for the house,   and her two kids   went after her,   both of them,   with night.  

[00:59:06] Rich Chelson:

What?  

[00:59:07] Unknown:

Because   because she shut down the Internet. Yeah.  

[00:59:11] Rich Chelson:

Yep. That that is crazy.  

[00:59:17] Unknown:

Yep. Went after their mom with knives.  

[00:59:21] Rich Chelson:

That's sad.   The it yeah.   I mean, seriously,   that is sad because that that just shows you that that   that kids nowadays or young people or whatnot   have no imagination.   They they have no,   they can't   they don't have an intelligent thought   on their own.   It's all it's all fueled by   the information around them. Just reaction. Yeah.   You know, it's sad, man. Good lord. That's sad.  

[00:59:57] Unknown:

Yeah. They're every bit about   reactive   versus   proactive.  

[01:00:04] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:00:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Apparently, there are three three teenage girls in Houston that be, have been arrested allegedly for trying to kill their mother because she turned off the Wi Fi.   That's according to USA Today.  

[01:00:19] Rich Chelson:

Wow.   Yeah. I mean, that's   wow.  

[01:00:30] Unknown:

I know. Well, and here's here's the other okay. And here's the other thing.   The mom,   okay, what does she do to prevent,   you know, the overuse of the Internet?   Not a fucking thing. Why? Because that was  

[01:00:49] Duuude-Ron :

the babysitter.  

[01:00:52] Rich Chelson:

Well yeah.   See, that's where   that's where if if you,   you know   I mean, they've got they've got parental controls.   You know?   She could've   put her kids differently,   and this probably wouldn't would not be an issue.  

[01:01:20] Duuude-Ron :

You know? So this you know? Well, the funny thing is, here's here's what   ABC News wrote. Three teenage girls allegedly attacked their mom and tried to stab her see, make sure I got it stopped. Yeah. They tried to stab her with kitchen knives because she turned off the Wi Fi according to authorities in Texas.   The three siblings, 14, 15, 16,   has allegedly coordinated a plan to try to kill their mother, Harris County Sheriff Ed Gall Gonzales said. Because the mom turned off the Wi Fi, the teens allegedly grabbed kitchen knives,   Sunday night and chased their mother through their Houston home and into the street, according to sheriff.  

One of the girls threw a brick and hit their 39 year old mom in the ankle.   The girl's,   70 year old grandmother was also knocked over while trying to while attempting to protect the mom the sheriff's office said. The mother and the grandmother were not seriously hurt,   the sheriff's office said. The three siblings were arrested, charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, or booked to the Harris County juvenile detention center according to the sheriff's office. So   what's missing in that?   Father.   Exactly.  

There's no flipping dad in the how in the in the,   the scene.   There's   another one. The there was,   a a article that I came across.   Oh, where was that?   Let's see. Where is that?   Yeah. There's,   one   where, again, mom,   the title and it's from this is from Board Panda, so you already know which what side of the aisle they're talking from.   Mom realizes her son teen son was red pilled and makes him change his mind with facts and logic.   Reading through this,   there is no dad in the picture.   So why is Sun turning to say say he was getting his information from Andrew Tate. Love him or hate him, beside the point.   Who? Why was the kid that, Andrew Tate?  



[01:03:36] Unknown:

Never heard of  

[01:03:37] Duuude-Ron :

him. Yeah. Okay. Well, he's a he's a guy. He's got well, if anything, you really look at him, it's a it's a guy who likes to try to who likes to present himself   as being an alpha male. He's one of those that likes to state that he's an alpha male, which tells you that he's not really an alpha male. He wants to be he wants to be one.   But he's Mhmm.   The the most   but he likes to he's he's he likes to kind of I don't even know if he he   he makes him states himself as being a masculine influencer, but he does   talk about,   you know,   how   how men should behave   around women and that women actually,   you know,   actually would prefer a guy to behave in a particular way.  

And because he was very   outspoken   with how he liked,   put stuff, the Internet absolutely hated him. More specifically, the,   the feminist.   I hated him.   And,   they ended up he and him and his brother ended up getting   arrested in Romania   and was being held there for,   about two years,   on on charges that he's was,   on charges of rape and   and,   apparently,   not quite kidnapping, but   transporting somebody across,   international lines without their approval or something like that.   Some type of kidnapping style   of of   I'm I'm taking you with me because you're bay basically, the way they were making it sound like was that this chick was kinda their their little, their their sex doll and,   would do it. It would get her, it gets her consent.  

So but, anyhow,   he, he one of the big things that the people like to do is they like to run around saying, well,   they're they're being red red filled by   as a reference to,   to,   like, in reference to the matrix.   If you haven't take the red pill, you're gonna wake up and all that. And then if you take a blue pill, you'll go back to sleep, and and you'll you won't ever realize it. So red pilling is saying that   showing you how   women,   really like   really like to have   men   behave   is kinda what their what their reply about. And that kinda goes in hand in hand with people who,   who like to do the whole,   men going their own way   type of movement, which is   a whole let's let's be the victim   here.  

Red pill was more along lines of kind of mentioning how women   need men   to be the resource winners,   to be the breadwinners of the family. If they don't if they're if the women end up being the,   the the the breadwinner of the family,   that's when they become very discontent with the marriage, and so that's why they'll want want to get a divorce and go find somebody else   because they   want   whether they can stay in the choir or not, they want a man who's able to provide more than bring in more money than what they can,   Which to a point, yeah, that makes sense. I get that. That women do   women are from   from the dawn of a band   were   resource gatherers. They needed to make sure they,   collected and acquired as as many resources as they possibly could.  

Those resources would be varies,   would be,   safety and security from the men. The men were the strong battle,   the battle,   hard guards   to protect the   the clan from   outside dangers.  

[01:07:48] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:07:49] Duuude-Ron :

It's the reason why men are have more muscle tissue, usually taller, bigger, stouter, stronger.  

[01:07:58] Unknown:

And Yeah. But that's the way God that's the way God made   male and female.   Yeah. Now there's females out there who now there's some females out there whooped my ass.  

[01:08:09] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. No. There's there's actually, I saw a, I think it was a TikTok,   earlier today of a girl that was, talking about talking to her Viking sisters, which is funny because this chick had some, she was a real real girl. It's kinda she was a lot like,   oh, I can't think of the gal's name. She is a, she's a lumberjack   up in Canada.   And I tell you, it's this girl, she is wearing flannels. She's wearing jeans   and all that, but still,   she makes   chopping wood   look entertaining.   I mean, you just watch her going, hell yeah. I mean, she has got some guns   and stuff, but, I mean, just you're like, she whacks into a into a piece of wood, and you're like going.  

Holy smokes, man. That's amazing. You know? And at the same time, but, I mean and I know that   that one thing, it would never happen because she is a lesbian.   She shows her girlfriend on there all the time, but at the same time, it was just   this this girl, she's pretty. She knows how to she's she knows how to split wood,   and it's just amazing. You know? Just watching watching her do watching her split wood is just one of the things that she does,   and she does it well.  

[01:09:37] Unknown:

In several different aspects.  

[01:09:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. And so But,   anyway But, anyway So going back So but   but going back to to the entertain   thing,   basically,   what,   what feminists have taken red pill to mean is that it's supposed to be misogyny.   But yet, somehow, women women also   do not accept the fact that the feminist   is short form   for misandry.   So   they but, anyhow, the parent who,   goes by the name of,   Rachel Parker, r c h l p r k r, spoke about how her son confidently blurted out that women are gold diggers, which okay. No. Not a   not quite accurate, but at the same time,   they do like to be able to know   that they have   security, financial security,   physical security, resource security.  

They like re security. Part of that reason of security is making sure they have finances enough financial,   clout to be able to do what they need to do.   And so, basically, in her words, she talks about how she,   what is it? She de peeled her re red pilled sun.   And,   but the funny thing is is going through all this, again,   there's no   mention of daddedness.   There's no talk about   how   that what dad thought or what dad did. This is mom trying to raise a son,   and God bless her for trying to do it. But there's a reason why   many   most cultures,   when the son turns 10, 11, 12, they take the child away from the away from the mother   and goes and lives in a in a,   village   away from mom with nothing but other men   because they have to learn about masculinity.  

When a child when a boy doesn't know how to doesn't know and learn   good masculinity, which is,   everything that   that the that the psychiatrist   wanna deem as toxic masculinity, you know, competent, competitive.   Oh, shit. I can't think of any of the others.   But   see.  

[01:12:10] Rich Chelson:

Well, we understand what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. It  

[01:12:14] Duuude-Ron :

but,   harmful,   refers to harmful traditional male gender roles that limit emotions,   which, yeah, you wanna limit your emotions   when you're in a battle. Alright?   You don't have time to sit there and cry   and boohoo when there's bullets flying past your head. Alright?   So, no, you have to know how to   how to tap down the emotions and process them later.   Encourage aggression. Well, again,   testosterone   allows for men to have the ability to be aggressive when needs be.   Prioritize   dominance and power. Well, yeah.   Look everywhere.   The male,   of the the male of the species is always trying to go trying to aim for dominance and power.  

And that then they turn around and go, well, it and all that's impacting   the mental health and perpetuating self,   self harm   in in men.   And, no, that's not it. That the fact that they are trying to get men to be the opposite   is actually where the harm is coming from.   And whether you're talking about things like the man box   or or other assorted,   asinine ideas like that,   the problem where toxic masculinity   comes from where   guy is where young men think that they're supposed to go off and try to get lay try to screw as many girls as possible   without any regard about their emotions or their feelings or anything like that.  

That's young   boys telling young boys how to be men.  

[01:14:02] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.  

[01:14:03] Duuude-Ron :

It is the lack actual lack of masculinity   that causes   these young boys to have   these   the act the wrong   traits or misguided   misguided, aspects   of masculinity.   It's like,   the juvenile delinquents,   in Africa. I don't know. Y'all ever hear about the juvenile delinquents,   which was a herd of elephants?   No.   Okay. No.   Okay. The juvenile delinquents. Well, there was a   when,   there were some,   some parks that were   noticing that they're   they had a lot more,   male bull elephants   per in a in a herd than   many of the other,   elephant herds in Africa had. And so they thought it would be a really good idea to just take these bull elephants   and transport them to the other,   to these other herds so that they could actually help perpetuate   the, the population the elephant population.  

So the problem is is they took   all of the old   bulls   out of the herd. And so all they left were just these juvenile bulls.   And they wasn't anything wrong there at first, first couple three years.   But then, eventually, they started noticing that there were the that dead rhinoceroses   were appearing.   They had found all over there. They weren't being taken for their horns.   They weren't being shot. They were just it was almost like they were being   beat to death.   And they and this was a big, big,   mystery for quite a while until they started kind of   keeping an eye on the different, rhinoceros herds.  

And there was this pack of young   elephant,   young bull elephants   that were going around   killing rhinoceroses   for fun.   And what they realized is that   they weren't being shown how to be a full elephant. They were just they had all this testosterone, all this energy, all this rage, all this everything else that they that's what what an elephant probably feels. And I can only guess because, well, what, I'm not an elephant.   But, but, you know, if we are trying to equate the same as what a young man is about, kinda like what you and me, were talking about a couple weeks ago, Rich,   where, you know, all we wanna do is fight and fuck.  



[01:16:51] Rich Chelson:

Right?  

[01:16:53] Duuude-Ron :

Well, they were doing that. They were trying to find any they were fighting anything and everything they could find, and the biggest, baddest thing they could find were these, you know, these black, white officers.   And so they were beating the shit and killing these killing these elephants, these rhinoestruses   because they weren't being told by the by the the, quote, unquote, men of the herd   how they needed to behave.  

[01:17:17] Rich Chelson:

See? Even even elephants aren't safe.   No. Elephants are It's I mean right. It's it's the same thing. You know? It's it's like,   you know, the male species   of of anything   has a presence   and has has a has a,   a job,   and that is to   help bring up   the younger males. Yeah. Absolutely.   And it doesn't matter what species.   White, black, Mexican, Puerto Rican animals, furry or not. You  

[01:17:52] Duuude-Ron :

know?  

[01:17:53] Rich Chelson:

And it's and, you know, that's the thing. I I don't understand what what gets   where where   these people,   these humans   think that, oh,   no. We you know,   you know, our sons don't need a a male figure  

[01:18:14] Duuude-Ron :

around. Yes. They do. And exactly where that's coming from. That's coming from   I one, they've been told. You don't need a man. I mean, cool. Come on. Gloria I think Gloria Steinman said I need,   I need a man about as much as a fish needs a needs a bicycle.   Well, you   She's and that's bullshit. We all know it's bullshit. We see the effects of this bullshit   every day now.  

[01:18:42] Rich Chelson:

Right.   No. No. It is it is bullshit because you see and and you see that's the thing. People think,   no. I don't need a man. I can do it without a man. True. Yes. You can. Yes. You fucking can. Do you need a man in the house? It fucking helps. But no.   You need to find an actual man. And even as a friend,   let them they will naturally   help bring up the young men.  

[01:19:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Mentor them.  

[01:19:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I mean, it it it   the man doesn't have to be in home sleeping in the in the bed with a woman and, you know, whatever. It helps.   But, you know, if that's not what you want That's the best results you could have. Yeah. Well yeah. But   at at at the at the,   you know, easiest possible way,   have a solid male friend   Yeah. That can   that can help mentor your children.  

[01:19:41] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But, again,   you know, a lot of these women who were raised as feminists,   they they went off. They tried to tried to have a, have a relationship.   Didn't have a a marriage. Just, you know, decided to sleep with the guy, get pregnant, live with him for a while. So never mind. I don't wanna hang out with you no more   and leave.   And then the the guy   standing there going, well, what am I supposed to do?   And one of the things I keep telling them is telling guys is you've gotta keep pursuing your child. Who cares about the damn wife?   Now the wife   is is going to operate off of her own emotions.  

And, sadly,   those emotions include,   I don't like your dad. So you're not allowed to like your dad either. And so she's gonna do everything she can to keep it from liking dad.   Right?   Which means when this child most needs it, her ego   will not allow   what is best for her son   to happen. She will find   she will find other women. I mean, I think that's probably where a lot of   the, the the the   the transgender,   social contagion kicked off from too.   Because   well, besides for feminism being for ugly women,   it's it's also to   to   limit   what men can be.  

And   if you can take   the guys, the turtle men, the girls, alright. Well, that's a win. Except for the fact that   the very act of what they're doing is   is   destroying   the sanctity of the, of women again.  

[01:21:39] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well and and see, that's the thing, though. You know?   You know, what's,   I don't know. It just it just   it just irks me that that   that men  

[01:21:58] Duuude-Ron :

and   that that men  

[01:22:01] Rich Chelson:

a lot of men just just walk away because they don't want the responsibility   because   they've never been,   held accountable. And you see what what no one gets about any of this? The world does not give   a fuck.  

[01:22:18] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. Why would they?  

[01:22:20] Rich Chelson:

They are gonna chew up and spit out all these people. This is why we have all these people going to therapists, and I'm not knocking therapy by no mean. If someone needs it by God, go for it. Get your help. You know? You do your nowhere near as many narcissists as they wanna play.  

[01:22:37] Duuude-Ron :

There's nowhere near   as many,   you know,   gender dysphoria   patients as they play.  

[01:22:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But yeah. No. You see, that's the thing. Because,   you know, when   when these people that   that think they know,   you know   you know, that they're living right, so they think and whatnot and all like this. And then when they get out in the world and   and another   adult male or female looks at them and says, you're nothing but a piece of shit.   What are they gonna do?   Crawl up in a ball and and cry.   Because, oh my god, they didn't like them. They didn't accept them, and they have a problem. This this is why this is why we're having this discussion.   And it's and it's grown rampant over the last   twenty years.  



[01:23:35] Duuude-Ron :

It has.  

[01:23:37] Rich Chelson:

You know? I mean, when this You're  

[01:23:39] Duuude-Ron :

you're denying   denying   boys   and young men   the opportunity to actually   be   actual men.   And then you wonder why they are so   unsure of themselves, why they are not   trying   to do what men do in society, why they are not even trying to go out and find women because hell.   They they get they get told to get in college.   You know?   Girl comes on to you. She goes and sleeps with you   and and and all that. At the end of the following day, if she has buyer's remorse for sleeping with you, guess what you're gonna get? You're gonna get slapped with a rate charge.  

[01:24:23] Rich Chelson:

It's it's a possibility.   Yeah.  

[01:24:28] Duuude-Ron :

And so, I mean, yeah, these guys are, like, going, I would really like to be with a woman, but you know what? Women fucking suck. So they're   you these feminists have had men jumping from one foot to the other so much that they're just they are. They're going their own way. They're saying, fuck this shit.   The system is rigged against me as it is. And to a point, yeah, you're right. I still I'm still a firm believer   that,   that the   that the the loss and and court rule   that govern the court rulings   for who gets,   gets rental support and,   and and gets custody of the children   really need to change.  

It should be whoever had just whoever decides   I'm out. I wanna leave.   They they get to leave,   but they have to go off and pay the other person   for, for breaking up the the the   the vows that they made.   And the kids get to stay with the person who wants to stay who didn't want the divorce.  

[01:25:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, you see, that's the thing now. It would be both for guys  

[01:25:40] Duuude-Ron :

who would win those.  

[01:25:42] Rich Chelson:

Right. Oh, yeah. But but you see, that'll never happen because   of the old school the old school,   cronyism,   you know you know, saying,   oh, only the mom is is   and and moms   are moms are better at it a lot of times.  

[01:26:00] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Moms are better at emotional   caring.  

[01:26:05] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:26:08] Duuude-Ron :

They could be more empathetic.   Right. And that's good for kids   up until about 10 years old.   Then that empathy does not do a kid any more good.   They need the discipline from dad   so they understand, oh, wait a minute. Yeah. You're going to cry. You're you've got this thing called emotions.   You've got to learn how to handle your emotions. You've got to be able to control your emotions.   It's not bad to be able to control your emotions   because you're gonna realize, oh, I'm doing something scary.   Yeah. I feel a little anxious about it. It's not an anxiety attack. It's just stress and and being anxious.   I'm nervous. We used to call it nerves.  



[01:26:58] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:27:00] Duuude-Ron :

But you will get through this. This isn't going to kill you. And with dads being in in the scene   and not doing like what moms do, which is this legal, oh, let's go to a therapy. Let's put you in therapy so you can get some drugs so you're not not all.   Dad will stand there and go, no. The kid doesn't need the kid doesn't need Prozac. He needs to go run run about,   rent some forties for the next hour and a half.   Right. He'll be just fine after doing that.   Yeah. I know it's 98 degrees outside. He'll live.   Time to time, we'll you know, after after about five, five sets of forties, we'll stop. I'll hose them down a little bit, and then he'd go run again.  

You're not gonna kill the kid by letting him run-in the heat.   It's not gonna kill the kid for him to go outside and work and then shovel the, the driveway.   It's not gonna kill the kid to be told no.   And dads do a better job of setting a boundary.   This is one reason why roughhousing is so important to kids   because they learn   control.   Yeah. Mom can roughhouse, but dad roughhouse is better.  

[01:28:16] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:28:17] Duuude-Ron :

It scares the shit out of mom. There's a lot of times you'll see stuff on on on the Internet of mom. Dad keeps, roughhousing with kids, and I'm afraid they're gonna get hurt.   Good. You're afraid. Thank you for the acknowledgment, but he ain't gonna hurt the kids. And if he does, they're gonna know not to do that no more.   But most of the time, kids sit there and, like if you're playing snowball fights, one side, they're gonna,   they're going to pack the, snowball with ice and throw it at their sister. Dad sees them do it because, alright. If you do that,   that means I get to throw one at you the same, with pack my own way.  

And watch the kids as they process the what does that mean?   Oh, that means he's going to do the same thing that we did to our sister.   Now I probably shouldn't do that because that's probably really gonna hurt.   And so they put two and two together and go, well, can you do that?   They also get taught taught that, hey. Running up and hitting dad's square in the balls   doesn't   sounds fun   because dad makes some funny noise and dumps over real fast.   But then all of a sudden, I get set in time out. I get set told I had to set off to the side, and I get to miss the action with dad for a little bit. That's not cool.   So they learn self control. They can't just run up and randomly hit dad in the nuts no more. They, you know, they can they could jump on and dog pile him all he wants. He doesn't have seem to have a problem with that, but, you know,   balled up this and hitting them in the face, that's not working so well. That keeps getting me put off to the side. I have to wait five minutes, which takes forever for a kid.  



[01:30:01] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:30:01] Duuude-Ron :

So dad's   set the boundaries. When it's time to sit down and the kid wants dad to read the free book, dad kids always want dad to read the book. Why?   Because the kid knows   if he goes, please, will you read it one more time? Might read it one more time. Might read the book for two times. But after that, dad's gonna go, no.   No. We've done it enough. It's time for you to go to bed. You've got water right there. Well, what'd you do? No. We're not doing that. And we he sets out a very   solid line   that does not get violated   by the child's attempts at, you know, the emotional manipulation.  

And that's why we have so many nice guys these days is because they've been they have taught themselves   emotional manipulation of women   works real well until you're married to a woman who sees what your emotional manipulation does and then doesn't play the fucking game no more.   Right. And so then you get these nice guys sitting around being all resentful and pissed off   and angry?   Because   I cleaned the house. I scrubbed the toilet. I did the dishes. I walked the dogs. I bathed the kids. I put the kids in the bed, and my wife is just sitting in bed with all her clothes on. Her clothes were supposed to magically fall off, but she was supposed to fall on her knees and give me a blowjob,   except for the fact that he didn't wanna bother to tell her   what his plan was.  

And so they have a covert contractor, and that's the that and that's the big problem is because they don't wanna say, hey. If I do all this, you give me a little nookie nookie tonight, won't you? Because there's a good chance the wife's gonna go,   no.   Right.   And so   now there there is a big need for   dads in the family.   There's a big need for   dads to be   working on a farm with family.   Too many dads have taken off to to the factories   and to corporate jobs   because they see that as making more money   instead   of being there and at you know, when it's hard, I'm going over to Junior going, come on. Come with me. I'm gonna go to see you see my friends over at, you know, Tashi Station. You can do that. You can hang out with your friends later on.  

[01:32:26] Unknown:

Like, you know,  

[01:32:29] Duuude-Ron :

you know, like, as well and then with Lucas, like, Sonic, we got this shit we gotta do first, ma'am. This is more important.   And that teaches the kid the work ethic that needs to be done.   And it's not being mean to the kid,   but also the kid gets to hang around dad or uncle uncle Ben   and sees how a masculine man actually operates.   So, yeah,   I'm I put a lot of our problems on on, on society's head.  

[01:33:02] Rich Chelson:

Well, rightfully so, because   society has dictated a lot of a lot of bullshit, and a lot of people   have drank that Kool Aid.   Yeah. And they're still drinking the Kool Aid.  

[01:33:16] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. No.   I have I had several cups of that Kool Aid for a long while.  

[01:33:21] Rich Chelson:

Right. I mean I mean, we all have probably at one time or another, but some of us finally got tired of drinking Kool Aid, and we stepped into whiskey.   Yeah.   Yeah. You know?  

[01:33:35] Duuude-Ron :

So   yeah.   Oh.   What? Something else has happened this week.   Apparently, it's been happening for about a month, but I just got I just I just tripped across it.   Now I don't know if this means I'm getting popular.   And, yes, this is about me, people, so you just gotta deal with it. I I'm I'm I'm slightly superego today. Build a bridge, get the hell over.   But, anyhow,   I have Google alerts set up for, for relaxed mail.   Alright?   Anytime something with the term the relaxed bell shows up, I'll get a Google alert about it.   Well,   I think it was Wednesday. Yeah. I think it was yesterday. No. No. It was yeah. Yeah. It was Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah. It was today.  

I was looking through it by email, and there was a Google alert for the. And I was looking at it.   And it was a with a, with a term I didn't quite recognize.   And so I was like, alright. Well, let's look let's follow this. See what see if this is actually me or not.   No. It's not. Someone has taken starting to take my,   my podcast episodes,   put them to a AI generated image,   and throw them up onto their own channel labeled   the relaxed mail.  

[01:35:09] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[01:35:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So   I put up, I went ahead and did a copyright notice,   through through, YouTube.   Got one up and, kept looking. And, apparently, what he's doing is about every day, every other day,   he's putting another one of my episodes up.   So  

[01:35:37] Unknown:

Okay. So So How can how can how can you stop him? He will he will get enough,  

[01:35:45] Duuude-Ron :

enough   copyright strikes   that   he'll either, a, be taken down.   B,   he will start   to jump through the sheer fact that he is   directing people over to   he's using all my tech all all my audio. So from the very beginning   to the very end, he's not doing any self remedy. He's just   he   he's being an AI AI ripoff artist, like like, most AI ripoff artists are.   Right. Just doing everything. He's using AI to make make an image   and,   finding other people's work. And so far, he's doing it with   all 260   so I got, what, 267   episodes up?   Can't remember.  



[01:36:43] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Why'd he do that, though?  

[01:36:45] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know.  

[01:36:48] Rich Chelson:

Is it helping you in any way?  

[01:36:51] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know.   I don't think so. If anything, he's pulling   anybody goes look for a relaxed male, they're gonna find   two relaxed males.   Oh. Because there's mine, which is relaxed male, and then there's his, which is,   the relaxed mail.   See here. Let me connect to them.  

[01:37:18] Rich Chelson:

I mean, you know, I, you know, I don't know if you ought to feel honored or upset.  

[01:37:24] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's kinda my deal too. It's like, oh, I don't know. Maybe,   it might, send people over to me. It might not. I don't fully,   fully know.   But   There's no figure out. His his,   his handle is   v   relaxed   male dash r   eight   t.   R So Rady, I guess.   8   8 8  

[01:38:05] Rich Chelson:

8   So Rady.   Right.   Uh-huh.  

[01:38:13] Duuude-Ron :

And, I mean, every single one of them, you can tell it's just a it's just a   CGI or not CGI, but AI generated image.   Right.   Static image,   video.   And, he's got he's taken he's thrown up a 13   videos.   There's he's got 51 subscribers, so those could be 51 subscribers over to my side.   But at the same time, you know, there's a part of me that's going well, those belong to me.   But at the same time, I'm going, okay. Well, as long as they're catching the information  

[01:38:53] Rich Chelson:

Right.   And so and and it sure shows unaltered. Right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I see here. Well, let's see.  

[01:39:01] Duuude-Ron :

Get what you what you give. Transform your life. So he's gone through and done an AI   alteration   of the title. So  

[01:39:14] Rich Chelson:

But it's still your show with your voice and and your content. Your keypad. Yeah. Yeah. Applies  

[01:39:21] Duuude-Ron :

so much in your life.   We're gonna give you three instances   of   you what happens when you actually get   what you give   out of normal instances of your life.   Talking about that this week in episode two twenty six of the relaxed male.   This is the relaxed male.   So you see?  

[01:39:42] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   You know? I mean,   I mean, I understand,   you know,   I understand your thought process, but at the same time, it's like,   you know,   shit. You're getting double exposure.  

[01:39:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's I'm kinda thinking that too. There's a part of me that I'm I'm really conflicted with that. That's what I'm, well, I'm kinda running at.   It's   like,   well,   okay.   Yeah. That's I don't   I don't know what  

[01:40:16] Rich Chelson:

I don't   know what what would be the right course of action for that.  

[01:40:23] Unknown:

I'll give you my suggestion.  

[01:40:25] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:40:28] Rich Chelson:

Because  

[01:40:32] Unknown:

he   is what if he gets   your customers, your clients,   and starts   losing you   financial means,   I'd shut them down.   Because, again, one of them is false   and, say, somebody that actually truly wants to   listen to your podcast,   it needs to come from you,   not an AI.  

[01:41:11] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And that's that's kinda what I'm one of the thoughts that I'm thinking. The other thing that I'm what I'm thinking of is,   George, right now, he's only got 51 phones   or subscribers.  

[01:41:24] Unknown:

Okay. So   and Which which should be your subscribers.  

[01:41:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But,   see here.   Requirements   for   on   the.  

[01:41:47] Unknown:

So then if somebody   asks him questions for advice   and gets   that person pissed off,   and then, you know, word-of-mouth information,   and then that person starts to complain about   relaxed mail,   it's gonna come back around to you   and hurt you and bite you in the ass.  

[01:42:17] Duuude-Ron :

That that's exactly that's the that's the one thing that I've kinda thought of and that I'm wondering kinda wondering about.   But here is   YouTube's content monetization policy.   So he's got a ways to go. He's been been doing it for   about,   about a month right now.   Higher bar monetization learn.   Partner program eligibility.   That's what we're after.   It's a little low just because, well,   it's all going   through my,   through my phone. So my phone's   my phone's starting to starting to sweat a little bit. It's like,   all sorts of information going through here.  

[01:43:14] Rich Chelson:

I mean, you know, I mean I mean, I yeah. I can understand what you guys are   saying.  

[01:43:21] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. No. I agree a % with what's being said. Right. Right. Because, yeah, that's definitely a worry to that.  

[01:43:29] Rich Chelson:

Right. Oh, yeah. Rightfully so. But but, see, the thing is, though, he's   he's not changing your audio content. And and this is where this is where I'm having   kind   of a kind of a conflict   type of deal in my head because he's not changing your your spoken audio.   So so if so if anyone listened to your episode,   everything   because you   you,   you know, say   your website name and all like this,   you know, and and your email and stuff   that you would think that people would   come straight to you or straight to your website.   I mean, not everyone will. I know. But you see, that's where   that's where I can I can see both sides, but yet I lean more to her,   you know,   you you and dude were, you know, are thinking of?  

You know? But but what is this guy's endgame? That's that's the whole question right there.   I mean I mean, why is he doing it?  

[01:44:42] Duuude-Ron :

That, I don't understand.  

[01:44:44] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:44:49] Duuude-Ron :

Because, I mean, this could just easily just be   just be a,   a a Internet marketer   who is trying to   who's trying to show me that he can he can get a   get, you   know,   YouTube followers real quick.   He could be a guy who thinks who thinks he can get the, followers real quick, and he can go on ahead and monetize off of it.   Right.   So,   one ain't gonna work for him and for him. The second one,   is it gonna be something that,   that, I mean, is gonna fly for him? Because, I mean, if anything, I've already proven,   a couple of my episodes   are   are mine.  

So I've already did a copyright hit on them   and and, told YouTube, hey. These are mine. They've and they've already taken them down.   So but I can't remember if it's if it's a three strike rule these days or if it's more   or what, but  

[01:46:18] Rich Chelson:

let's see. There we go.  

[01:46:21] Duuude-Ron :

Let let me ask you something. So you're using your way, if he was wanting to try to   say again?  

[01:46:28] Rich Chelson:

Do you use Audacity?  

[01:46:31] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[01:46:32] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Do you fill out the,   the metadata?   Yeah.   Okay. Okay.   I was just wondering   because that because, when you do that, that's, that's baked into the audio.  

[01:46:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   But he's taking that audio and just converting it into an into a a, into a a video   so the so the the that audio gets scraped out.   But,   because it is the audio   is coming up  

[01:47:22] Rich Chelson:

How does the audio get the,   if he's doing a video,   it's just static images. Right?   Okay. Well, we lost.   And he's back.  

[01:47:51] Duuude-Ron :

Alright. 12,000   yeah. There we are.  

[01:47:56] Rich Chelson:

Okay. I do.   I was out I was I was,   trying to ask you a question, and you were dead silent. Then all of a sudden, I heard a droop. And I look, you're out. And then   it's like I heard a droop, and then you're back. And I'm like, oh my god.  

[01:48:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It   was Go ahead. So they anyhow,   YouTube has got a thousand followers a a thousand subscribers   you have to have,   and they've   it looks like they've dropped it because I used to I thought there used to be 12,000   viewing hours.  

[01:48:33] Rich Chelson:

No. 4,000 last, I knew.  

[01:48:35] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, that was 4,000. So but still, I mean, that's a that's a lot of freaking viewing that you have to do.  

[01:48:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So so, yeah, you can't monetize it. I mean, he can't monetize off of it. Like He can't. But if he does get up that high,  

[01:48:53] Duuude-Ron :

it'd be like people who do copyright claims on   on,   on music.   I don't know exactly how they do that,   but there should be a way to if he's monetizing it   that, I could become I that the, any money that he earns off of,   off of monetized,   audio of mine,   that becomes my audio or that becomes my money.  

[01:49:21] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. It should be. It should.   But you see again, you know, what have they done in the music industry?  

[01:49:29] Duuude-Ron :

That's what they do.   That's why if you   you can sit there and play copyright music on,   on a,   on a YouTube video.   And depending on who who it is, they may say, you know, you've gotta take it down.  

[01:49:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:49:47] Duuude-Ron :

Or they may say, any monetization   that you have on this, you're not getting a dime of it. It's all going to,   you know, the, the copyright holder.  

[01:49:58] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:50:01] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know. I mean, that's  

[01:50:04] Rich Chelson:

that is a conundrum.   I mean, I would I would be doing a copyright strike myself.  

[01:50:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, like I said, I've got thrown. I've thrown two at them so far.   And,   eventually, he's going to either, a, catch a catch a hint and go, oh, this dude's just going to pick at me until I'm gone,   and he will drop it. Or if I decide to stop and just let him   wait it out,   you know, and see how big he gets. I mean,   because   if push comes to shove and I've gotta you know, if it's after   if I don't put any more copyright strikes and he gets and they reset after a while, I mean, it's not hard. I could just go off and choose three more different copyrights,   videos   and, and   resubmit those.  

And,   and, yeah, it would be he'd be out once more.  

[01:51:01] Rich Chelson:

I'd shut him down. Dude, what was he gonna say?  

[01:51:04] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm gonna say I don't fuck I don't fucking remember.  

[01:51:09] Rich Chelson:

It's been ten minutes ago. No. It wasn't. It it was, like, two minutes ago.  

[01:51:14] Unknown:

Done fucking for done fucking forgot already.   I shut them down.   I don't remember.   I'd shut him down.  

[01:51:26] Rich Chelson:

I would. Yeah.   I mean, just   you know, don't   don't give him the chance   to to take from you.   Be a toxic man. Shut him the fuck down.  

[01:51:46] Duuude-Ron :

Dominic.  

[01:51:47] Rich Chelson:

Right? Well, hey. That's your shit.   You put the time, the hours, and everything, and he's just sitting there   and being a keyboard warrior.   Fuck him.   No mercy, dude. No mercy.   Annihilating.  

[01:52:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:52:08] Rich Chelson:

I I just because because, yeah, that's that's wrong, man.  

[01:52:13] Unknown:

And those 51 followers that he has?  

[01:52:17] Duuude-Ron :

They'll be lost.  

[01:52:18] Unknown:

Well, no.  

[01:52:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, to the point, yeah, they will. They, if they decide, hey. I where did the relaxed mail go? And they go relook for them and they find mine, then they'll re they'll rejoin that way. They won't automatically transfer over to mine.  

[01:52:36] Unknown:

That's correct. But if they are following   relaxed mail   and then this   site is gone,   they'll   look in there like, okay. Why   this and that?   And they'll look back through, and they'll find the one   that is available   and subscribe to that one, which is yours. Right.  

[01:53:06] Duuude-Ron :

Now but I did notice one thing for on, on YouTube,   whenever I was playing around this last time, and I saw I've been kinda playing catch up on it.   They've expanded   YouTube Shorts to three minutes now.  

[01:53:21] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:53:22] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   I thought that might might get that. Beforehand, it was just a minute.   And I was trying to throw my my reels and stuff up on there,   and I'm a little on the long winded side. I usually try to cut it off in about a minute and a half. No. Not you, dude. Not me. No. I mean, no. It's hard to believe. I know. I'm a man of few words, but it sometimes   I get long winded.   And so   it's, it it happens sometimes. But anyhow so   there I was wasn't doing YouTube shorts for the fact that I'd be talking along and all of a sudden   well, what was the biggest point? You know? What was the point? What was the what was the the, the resolution? What was the, the the bingo?  

Well, you couldn't find out because   I would just I would just suddenly just stop and and start over from the beginning.   So they've done stretched it out to three minutes now, so that's amazing. I could actually start throwing my my reels up   and Right. On the on the shorts, and and that's starting to actually,   help my,   my my   YouTube analytics a good bit.   Well, that's good. I mean, it's Yeah. They're still nowhere near,   the amount of levels like TikTok does. TikTok, I'm stuck in the two, three hundred range, which is   average   for most people.  

It'll serve you up to about 300 people. And if you don't take off with that 300 people, well, okay, you're gonna die. You're just that video just go up. Just sit there and   and won't ever grow.   So   but while on,   like, the latest one that I threw up today was I got 55 views. So way fewer,   viewers, but,   but at the same time, I mean, it's,   it has 55 more views on a short than I was getting than what I what I was before. So   Right. Right. I ain't bitching.  

[01:55:17] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. No. No. You say say say I hate those videos,   whether they be on YouTube, Facebook,   TikTok, whatever,   that that you're getting into it and all like that, and then   and then it just cuts off and goes on to the next one. Oh, that pisses me off.   Yeah. You know? It's like it's like, fuck you. Oh, I get mad.   Because it's you you know, I mean, it's like, I was I was actually kinda getting into it. You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. It's the same way.  

[01:55:49] Duuude-Ron :

But one of the things I have realized is I'm starting to start listening for   the AI voices   Uh-huh. Which are usually the ones of people who've read it. What was your, what was your weirdest time at a cemetery? You know? You see some of those, and it'll usually go through and do a Reddit story   or a Reddit reply.   Those, I've gotten around to where I will thumb down   those just about every damn time just because I wanna let YouTube know I don't want   AI generated   bullshit.   That's a that's a that's a lazy son of a bitch who has actually   just taken other people's content   content from from,   from,   from Reddit as in this case   and making it their own and monetizing   off of it.  

And, you know, they're using, like, ElevenLabs   voices and stuff like that. So it's   it sounds   almost   right until you hear them try to pronounce some some weird word like paradigm. A lot of times, they'll get paradigm on. They'll actually say paradigm.   And,   you hear them say something wrong, and you're like,   fucking AI. Thumbs down, and away we go.   So   I've been that that's kind of been my my recent,   charge is is I'm going to fight   lazy ass people's AI.   Okay. AI is good. I will I will give you that. I mean, I I've used AI because I'm I'm looking at writing a book.   And,   so I went ahead and used AI to give me an outline   of a 500 page book   about how   using the four pillars of a relaxed male will help you become   a better husband.  

And it did. It cranked out this big old long list. It gave it kinda gave a a breakdown of, of what the,   what the topics   would end up being. So, let's see here. There's the husband foundation.   So it starts off with, like, part one's,   you're giving them the actual foundation, what it means to be a relaxed male, the myth of the stress to a stress provider.   And these are all what it's doing and what it suggests. And so I'm kinda laying everything out. And then   once I got everything laid out, I'm actually going to take it and decide   what direction I really want this to to fully go.  



[01:58:27] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:58:29] Duuude-Ron :

So,   it kinda gives you, like, the, method of stress provider, strength and stillness, power, grounded presence, which is all, you know, all nice and flowery, but doesn't tell you what the you know, what it could possibly mean. And then it goes into, like, what pillar one is, man's mind, body, soul,   and community.   And I had a   moment because I got to I had a, I had one of my favorite podcasters on as a guest. K. He's gonna be coming out next week, Bob Gardner.   And,   he can't he I was   he actually he went through and completely blew apart,   my third pillar   without even realizing what he was doing. He just he he was talking about,   you know, people thinking that they need to have a purpose, and and they caused more more harm to the to their mental,   mental selves   because of it   than   benefits of   of of,   of doing,   of actually finding the, finding what your purpose is. And so he blew apart, the man's soul pillar, and I was I I laughed at it, and I was like, oh, man. You just shot the biggest damn cannonball   right through one of my pillars.  

And, it went through and broke it all down to him. And he was I was like, oh, man. I am so it's like, no. No. No. This is awesome. I mean, I'm,   I'm amazed that it you blew it apart to where I start questioning it that easily.   Right. Because I've had my other friends sit there and try to blow it apart, and I was just like, yeah. No. No. It's still this. It's still this.   But he did point out,   after I got finished, he's, like, going, in all reality, what that sounds like you're talking about is identity,   which fits what the soul is   actually a lot better   because it's not quite your purpose. Your purpose is to protect your family   and to be you know, Your purpose is gonna vary depending on the season of your life. It's depending on what's what's going on. But who   are   you?  

Can you answer that?   Who am I?   Yeah. Who is   Richard Shelton?   Well, if you know, tell me. I don't know. I mean, I don't think that's But see, that's that's that's well, I know. But that's that is   what is your identity? And not so much as, like, the gender. I I'm, you know, I'm a I'm a trans   I'm a trans   bi bipolar,   you know, whatever. You know? They're what do you identify as? Not that it is Right. What is your identity?   You know,   I am   a father   and husband   who is wanting to ensure   that other men have,   how I phrased it out once, and I didn't write it down. And now that's   I am   a husband   wanting   other men.  

Son of a bitch. It's   crap. I no. I know I should've kept repeating it for the next three days after you said, after I came up with it.   Anyhow, it's I'm my   I wanna use purpose again because it it it just it it sets in the rut right. But, yeah, my purpose on the, is was like my identity with a Rolex male or my purpose   is   I help men   find their relay the relationship   they have been craving.  

[02:02:28] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[02:02:31] Duuude-Ron :

And so   that is the identity   my identity, my soul   is that   of someone who helps   other men   achieve their achieve their the their fulfillment through a relationship.   Might be another way of saying it.   So K. I'm still I'm still really hammering   a lot of that portion out just because, like I said, he he he took he took aim at that at that,   at the man's soul pillar and   just expertly just sing, just swung a BS cannonball right through the middle of it and was like, yep. It's not a it's not purpose. It's   it's   the   the man's identity.   And so   and so that Oh, yeah. I I like how that's I like how the man's identity   rides   with with man's soul. Because   when we think of the soul, we think of that as the person. So that is your identity. So like I said, it it sits   it's like almost like two puzzle pieces. I had two puzzle pieces. The the man's soul, which is the man's purpose,   it fits.  

And then I put this other one on, and it's like, oh, that fits. That's the right spot. That's where that goes.  

[02:03:56] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:03:57] Duuude-Ron :

So  

[02:03:58] Rich Chelson:

so they help. And and   and same thing is actually it it, you know, seems like by him doing that, it it   it's,   you know, helping you fine tune,  

[02:04:11] Duuude-Ron :

you know Oh, yeah. Relax males. So, yeah, I mean, in a way, it was a good thing. Oh, it was a very good thing. Not to mention hell. It was a hell of a lot of fun being able to talk to Paul Gardner.   Sad to hear that that he is he's   he's stopping his,   his practice. This is the guy that I was wanting to see if I could get you and Ron   to someday   to do his,   do his retreat   so that he y'all would be able to help   work through y'all's,   y'all's pain. Because he really changes   how you hold your body and how you how you experience pain and how you experience   what your body is telling you   so that   it the pain   might   it may be being registered as a pain,   but that's just because that's your what your body has been used to calling it.  

And it might accidentally be actually be something completely different.   And there's no better way to be able to describe it other than to go, dude, I know I'm feeling pain. Well, yeah, your brain's going. Of course, your brain is nothing more than an organ that sits in an airtight box   and receives signals from the outside world.   Right. Because you it really doesn't see outside.   Your mind   receives signals from the sensors,   from the the nerve sensory nerves   in your eyes.   It doesn't actually know what it's actually touching   until until you actually feel it and you get enough touch.  

You don't know what's actually hot,   and you don't actually know what's cold. And we actually don't even have hydro receptors. So when we touch something wet, we don't even know what it that it's actually wet.   We just happen to recognize, oh, there's a sudden temperature change with this line of demarcation.   Yeah.   And so every and, you know, and then we hear all the noises that are around.   And so our brain is, you know, processing all this information all at once.   And that's one reason why you can   you can look at something,   you know, look at the you you go to the go to the refrigerator, open up the refrigerator door, and you can't find the ketchup bottle.  

But somebody else goes in there and plucks it right out of the door.   And you're going, where the fuck was that? It's like right there.   No. It wasn't. I just looked right there. Well, you didn't see it because your brain didn't think that was important.   You were looking for a ketchup bottle sitting on on the, sitting on the shelf, but it wasn't on the shelf. So your brain was, like, going, nope. Nope. It's not on the shelf.   Now there's there's one sitting on in the door, in the door, but that's not the one you're looking for, so that's not important.   That's fine.  

And so you didn't see it. And then there's times, you know, you you hear you don't hear,   you know, your wife hollering at you.   And that's because your brain has gotten to the point to where it filters that sound out.   Right? But, you know, the first time you start hearing a tick tick tick from the engine, you're like, hey. I I I know. Something's up. Something's up. You know? You can hear you could heard it in the middle of a rock concert   right next to the, right next to the speakers,   and you probably would've picked up that.   It's like, uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. We got a we got a, we got a lifter knocking.  



[02:08:00] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   Well, say because that's that's something you don't hear all the time. Exactly. If it's in your, favorite vehicle.  

[02:08:09] Duuude-Ron :

Precisely. Yeah. And you're gonna   you're gonna you're you're you're gonna pick that up because your brain knows that that's important. That's, again, the green car syndrome.   Yeah. Or green car phenomenon. Go out and you buy a green Toyota   Camry, all of a sudden, everybody's driving green Toyota Camrys.   You never saw them until you saw this one, and then all of a sudden, your brain goes, hey. Green Toyota Camrys, those are highly important.   Oh, hey. There's one. Oh, hey. There's one. Oh, hey. There's one. I didn't realize people there are so many freaking Mazdas on the damn road till I got one.   Right. I think half the damn traffic is made of of Mazdas.  

Hell, there's another   made of Jeeps. Yeah. There's a and the other half are made up of Jeeps. So   but, again, that's   it   our brains don't you know, our brains are gonna just interpret   the sensors that we have.   And so, yeah, we   we can we can pretend to to know what what's what's going on, but didn't mean that we fully know know the extent. But now it's   it's a   his discussion was was real cool, and I I love the fact that,   that he was able to I was able to get him on the show. I just kinda wish that, that he was gonna be well, he said he would still do   retreats and stuff. It would just be   for,   for special occasions.  

So who knows if I can get, you know,   enough,   enough guys together and and stuff might be able to convince him to come out and, you know, everybody pay him,   you know, instead of everybody forking over, you know, his his normal fee of $5,000.   He's you know, might be able to knock it. And not and the reason why it's $5,000   for his, you know, for his retreat is because   he   housed you. He fed you,   and it was also, like, three three days of   of, of of work   where he went through and taught you how to   different tools on how you can actually   change your body because what normally happens is our body is,   we will find our bodies in particular,   reacting to different,   types of stressors.  

So, again, like,   like, we start hearing the the our engine,   knocking.   We're gonna respond to that in some way. Our shoulders may get tight and our lower back may get tight. We may start breathing real shallowly,   and and stuff, and we doing that's gonna cause our heart rate to increase. We're gonna start sweating a little bit.   Well,   you could change your physiology   and change how you respond to that certain stimuli.   And he gives you the skills and the ability on how to actually do that.   So your   and he actually will go he actually goes through and puts your body in different stresses to show you what that is. So all of a sudden, he may have you,   do a particular exercise, and all of a sudden, you're you, for whatever reason, you're starting to cry.  

And you have no idea why. You're like, well, we're just laughing four seconds ago. Why why am I why am I getting ulterior and stuff? You know? And   from that from that particular stressor, he can then show you how   you might have to stop,   shrug your shoulders back, elongate your spine, and take four very deep, slow breaths,   change your physiology,   and you change the response that you have to the certain stimuli.   Because our body just learns   how when it recognizes a certain stimuli, it just needs to react in this way, and it survived that. And because it's done that before.   And so I   I I thought the the $5,000   for his retreats was was highly   affordable, but at the same time, he also was saying it's like, yep.  

For every dollar we were spending, we were,   or for every dollar that we made, we were spending two. So it was just it was a he did it for ten years, but he said it's just nothing but a lose lose,   proposition at the moment. But he's five he's got another,   he's he's joining up with a with another group   and,   to so that he could actually start bringing some money in.   Right.   But he said he was also he I asked him. He was like, so if we were to if I was to have, like, a nonprofit group together and they were wanting to,   wanting to learn some of the some of the skills, he's like, oh, hell yeah. I'll I'd I'd be down there no time at all if, you know,   if if,   if it if the, if the time and and and money fit.  

Right. So   so he's he's got one more, I think in April. He's got one more retreat, and then   I think in July, he said he's got one more.   He's gonna teach,   his,   his modality   to some folks. And I would love to do that too, but I I I don't have the 12,000 for it. So  

[02:13:57] Rich Chelson:

good god. No. I don't.   I   I ain't got no money this year.  

[02:14:02] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. I've got  

[02:14:04] Rich Chelson:

none. I I I mean, yeah, maybe next year, I might have a little bit, but   we'll see.  

[02:14:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Well, I mean, it's it's a   it it like I said, though, I was I was just pickled pink because I just have I noticed that Bob hadn't done his live and free podcast   in several months. And so I was actually I just reached out to say, hey.   Are you what's going on? I noticed that his,   his,   his website had been altered because there's a couple of episodes on his website that I had linked to that all of a sudden became four zero fours.   Right. And, and stuff. And I was like, oh, man. What's going on here? And I think it's just,   I think it's coming to the end of an age, which is kinda my luck. You know? It's a day late dollar short type of thing.  

Right. Because a lot of the people that I was following and getting a lot of my coaching   coaching inspirations   from   are changing over into other stuff. I mean, even my mentor, Brooke Castillo,   she   shut down all of her all of her classes.   She's got, like, one little 40 $150   $47,   little lesson on how to have a good day, I think. And that's about six ten of it. And it's like,   okay. What's going on here, folks? It was was 10 years old as the coaching was gonna be for? And then after that, no one no one's,   is co coaching falling out of, out of vogue or something. And I was and   there's a part of me that's, like, going, well, you know, it may be. It may all of a sudden not be the big thing. Maybe   2020 was the big year for,   for coaching.  

Because that's what everybody took out. Everyone's like, oh, yeah. Coaching. Yeah. I know. It's like  

[02:16:05] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. Because because, I mean, everyone was staying home. Yeah. They were everybody was working on themselves.  

[02:16:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And and and now that everything's open again, everyone's like, I ain't gotta work with myself no more. Well, no. It's I gotta work with myself, but now all of a sudden, it's like, oh, y'all actually gotta start going back to the office now.   Right.   And be like, oh, I don't want it.  

[02:16:28] Rich Chelson:

And see and see that's the thing. I mean I mean, you know, they still need coaches, but   you   you just might have to   find,  

[02:16:40] Duuude-Ron :

you know, other people. You know? Yeah. And and other people a different way to incorporate my coaching instead of being straight on   coaching,   coaching business, which I think the coaching business will still always will always be there.   It just may be one where instead of trying to get all my clients going, that's just it's gonna be, oh, well, you know, alright.   Just we're gonna I've got three or four, and they paid paid a respectable amount. It's not gonna be amount that I originally star started, but that's okay   because   I don't plan on shutting down the website anytime soon.  

Right. Now give me two more years, and that might be something different. But at the moment, I'm still   still cranking out podcast and and,   and and and blog posts, and,   and I'm still   I'm still toying with my with my   Western Oklahoma   podcast idea.   Right. It hasn't it hasn't died out of my head yet, which is driving me nuts because it's like   because the thing I keep telling myself is like, yeah. But you're gonna have to do sports.   Because that usually causes me to go, oh, yeah. Never mind.   Well, that that's a dumbass idea. And it worked for a little bit. And then y'all comes back and it's like, well, you're gonna have to do sports. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's okay.  

[02:18:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's like No. I just you know? And and you see, that's the thing. Maybe   maybe this is the transition time, and, you know,   you're like like, right on the edge of of the new era of coaching. You just need to   figure out how does the relaxed male fit into the new era.   Right.  

[02:18:32] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   So,   I mean,  

[02:18:37] Rich Chelson:

I mean, yeah, I can see your point.   You know? Because, yeah, people need coaches. People will always need coaches.   Yeah. That's that's why I was saying to   switch gears and, I mean, you could almost be a a   a   freaking therapist.   You can make it kill it.   You just don't have to, you know, prescribe drugs.   Just sit there and have a couch and let people talk to you and charge them a hundred $50 an hour.   You know? I mean, I mean,   do you really need a a, degree for that?  

[02:19:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Be a therapist? Yeah. You do.  

[02:19:18] Rich Chelson:

Okay. No. I mean, yeah, I I didn't know, but, I mean, shit. If that's the case, fucking drive around town and get you a couch and, you know Sure. Do like do like,   who is that?   Was that in Peanuts?  

[02:19:35] Duuude-Ron :

Was that Oh, got Lucy? Lucy having a Yeah. Yeah.   Therapist for DIN five cents.   Yeah.   Yeah.  

[02:19:46] Rich Chelson:

I always I always liked that. It was always funny.  

[02:19:50] Unknown:

Yeah. Instead of mobile detailing,   you,   get a trailer   that has a couch and a chair.   You know? So at least you're kinda isolated.  

[02:20:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:20:02] Unknown:

You know,   to there so that they have they think they have privacy. Just keep the back door open. You know, let the airflow in.  

[02:20:12] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But Well, the wife has got an idea that she's starting to form too. So this is it's getting, I think you're all alright that, this is a transition area.   Right.  

[02:20:24] Rich Chelson:

I mean, that's cool. Because  

[02:20:27] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. So, I mean, she's got   she's, she's got an idea with,   with,   with making a almost like a well, not almost, but having, like, a food truck that is all about French fries,   which I laugh. I tried to tell her about the grilled cheese thing, and she was like   and she she didn't catch the joke. I guess she wasn't familiar with the with the dude. But   but,   but I tried to tell her about tell us, like, oh, well, we we could do nothing but grilled cheese, and she's like, no. No. I don't wanna do grilled cheeses. We're gonna do French fries.   And it's just different types of French fries.  



[02:21:12] Unknown:

Well, see, now now   that's becoming difficult.   There's only one type of grilled cheese.   You know? But if you have   several different potatoes,   you know,   I would love to   do, you know, just   a grilled cheese sandwich setup like that, one trailer.  

[02:21:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yep. I'm with you. A dollar piece.  

[02:21:43] Unknown:

No change returned.  

[02:21:45] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.  

[02:21:52] Unknown:

Or if you have a 20, you're gonna get 20 grilled cheese sandwiches.  

[02:21:59] Rich Chelson:

And if you only wanted five, well, guess what? Share.  

[02:22:04] Duuude-Ron :

Better give me a five.  

[02:22:06] Unknown:

Yep. Better give me a five   because you ain't getting change.  

[02:22:17] Rich Chelson:

Yep. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean I mean, doing   doing different french fries   set up at fairs, county fairs, you know, shit like that. Oh, yeah. People. Yeah. People would go nuts for it. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. They they would. Yeah. There's there is a a market for it,  

[02:22:35] Unknown:

but you it's   all about a location.   Now are you gonna get   sales   if you are with   another group of food trucks?  

[02:22:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You will do.  

[02:22:52] Unknown:

But   if that   if all the other, you know,   food trucks have fries with their meals,   you   know, just having fries,   you know, wouldn't be   profitable.  

[02:23:11] Duuude-Ron :

Oh. I don't know. Well and it's not just straight up French fries. I mean, yeah, you could get   well, her idea is it's not just straight up French fries. So, you know, you could have the French you could have,   you know, chili cheese fries, disco fries,   even poutine.   Right. No. No. I understand. But, also, you know, start having,   you know,   have, like, a,   I don't know what would be, some   like a Philly cheesesteak fries.   So take a first fries and then and,   and take all the fixings for, for Philly cheesesteak and dump them on top of that and and stuff. So   And see, the thing is, dude, sometimes people just want fries. They just want something light. They don't want Oh, yeah. Well, the she was thinking it's like, yeah. We can start taking it over to different different bars and parking in front of there at closing time and make a killing.  



[02:24:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   That is true.   Yeah.  

[02:24:14] Rich Chelson:

I mean, yeah, this I mean, this yeah. It's very yeah.   Fries fries are perfect drunk food.  

[02:24:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:24:23] Rich Chelson:

I mean, you hang up.  

[02:24:28] Unknown:

Well,   yeah, you know, now that you've you guys have told me the other   perspective angles, I'm I understand it a little bit better now.   Y'all know me. I'm kinda fucking slow.  

[02:24:42] Rich Chelson:

No. I'm not you, dude.  

[02:24:44] Duuude-Ron :

No. Not slow at all, my man. You just you've gotta weigh you've got your your means of thinking, so you gotta you gotta process it.  

[02:24:54] Unknown:

Yeah. And I'm like, the   and I process, like, a Mac from 1978.  

[02:25:00] Duuude-Ron :

Hey. It still works.  

[02:25:04] Rich Chelson:

It's just a little slow. Yeah. You just may go.  

[02:25:11] Unknown:

Damn. You do that pretty well. Yeah. Go. Mister mister Yahoo.  

[02:25:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. It's I mean, yeah, I mean, that's that's actually not a half bad idea.  

[02:25:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's what I was telling her.  

[02:25:30] Rich Chelson:

All you'd need is is   shit. You could do it in an enclosed trailer,   open up one of the sides, you know, have, you know, ventilation and and a couple deep fryers.  

[02:25:40] Duuude-Ron :

Hell.   Amazon sells sells food trailers for, like, $10,000   at the at, you know, anywhere from 5 to 10,000 doll yeah.  

[02:25:51] Unknown:

Yeah. The food trailers are actually   really come down in price, and they're, you know, specifically made for that purpose. Yeah.  

[02:26:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:26:03] Duuude-Ron :

That's crazy. The hell out of me when she told me that. I was like, I I I started looking. I was like, oh oh, hey. That's a nice looking one. There you go.   You don't need a whole bunch because, you know, you're just mainly cooking just you got a griddle for, for, some of the, some of the meats that you may throw on there.   And the rest of it is you got your you got probably 15 violators going.  

[02:26:27] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:26:30] Duuude-Ron :

And And maybe you can drive  

[02:26:34] Rich Chelson:

say, yeah. Just need, like, you just need, like, one or two deep fryers because  

[02:26:39] Duuude-Ron :

we wanna make sure we're sure we have four so we stayed really busy.  

[02:26:44] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean   You can start off with a couple because those baskets can hold an ass load of fries.  

[02:26:51] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. They can. Yeah. You know?  

[02:26:54] Rich Chelson:

And it's not hard to keep fries warm.   No? No.   But, yeah, it's I mean, shoot. And, hell, you could actually get a couple air fryers and   do them that way too.  

[02:27:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Get, like, an air fryer for those for those folks who wanna have be all healthy and stuff.  

[02:27:17] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[02:27:19] Unknown:

Yeah. For the,   kosher   fries.  

[02:27:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah.   So,   yeah, I have one. You know, I can spend   charge a little extra and have the have,   have some that are fried up and and tallow so they got the really good meat good flavors.  

[02:27:46] Unknown:

Right up in what?  

[02:27:48] Duuude-Ron :

Tallow.  

[02:27:49] Rich Chelson:

Beef tallow.  

[02:27:51] Duuude-Ron :

That beef beef tallow.  

[02:27:53] Unknown:

Oh, okay. I gotcha.   Again, well, I've   never   even,   I can understand what you're saying, but I've never   used it or anything like that.  

[02:28:06] Duuude-Ron :

I haven't gotten around to using tallow   itself. Well, the closest I've gotten to tallow is I've just I've used lard.  

[02:28:13] Rich Chelson:

But Well, well, it's about the same thing.  

[02:28:17] Duuude-Ron :

It's about the same thing. Yeah. Just coming from different.  

[02:28:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So So   yeah. It's it's I mean I mean, if you've used,   lard or, you know, grease Yep. From Yeah. Presco. Whatever, that's Yeah. Okay. Yeah.   You know, that's that's about what it is.  

[02:28:36] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:28:38] Duuude-Ron :

I gotcha. I've gotten around to where I've got a, I've got a bacon grease,   canister that I have been that I that I have that I use for just about everything. I've come to find out if you're if you're wanting to use,   wanting to use bacon grease instead of, instead of vegetable,   it's a one to two ratio   or a two to one ratio for,   basically, you cut the, cut the amount in half. So if you're using a a two tablespoons of of oil in, like,   your cake,   it would just be one one tablespoon,   of, of bacon grease.  

[02:29:20] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[02:29:22] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Okay.  

[02:29:26] Rich Chelson:

Say, I I normally if I use bacon grease, I just use it in my skillet,   and I don't I don't measure it out. I just throw a hunk in there and let it   let it melt.  

[02:29:36] Unknown:

Well, what's that all say? A little a little dab will do you.  

[02:29:40] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yep. Brella cream, that was our deal. A little dab will do you.  

[02:29:45] Unknown:

Yep. And, you know,   it's your preference on the size of the dam.  

[02:29:51] Rich Chelson:

Yep. That's exactly right.   Like, on on TikTok, there's this one there's this one lady I watch. I mean, she's funny or shit.   She,   you know, makes dinner, you know, for her family. You know?   And she's a big old girl. You know?   And, she doesn't measure anything out.   She just pulls shit out. She's like, I'm gonna make this. Never made it before. It shit I had in the back of my fridge,   and I have to use it. And so she'll start throwing stuff, you know, in the skillet and tell you how to do it. She's like, yeah. Get a little bit of water, about two cups. Yeah. That's good enough. And all like this, and then you throw the lid on it.   And then she's like, sometime has elapsed.  

And then you stir it up, and you do this. And then you put the lid back on it, and then some time has elapsed.   And then she I mean, I mean, this is not a good  

[02:30:52] Unknown:

Yeah. More time has elapsed.  

[02:30:54] Rich Chelson:

Sure. Yeah.   And even more time has elapsed. And and and, yes, she is just funnier and shit.   You know? And I love it because,   you know   you know, some of the video other video   since I've seen, they're they're like, oh, this is the brand I use. This is how much I use. Blah blah. She's like, fuck. No. She throws it in. She's like, I don't care.   And she's like, I'm the one making it. I know it's gonna be good.  

[02:31:22] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:31:23] Rich Chelson:

And and and I just I just like watching her, you know, because she's funnier and shit.   You know? And she just like she's like, I don't give a shit.   This is how I do it. You know?   But, yeah, I watch shows once in a while.  

[02:31:41] Duuude-Ron :

Oh.  

[02:31:45] Rich Chelson:

But, Brian, I'd say go for that, dude.  

[02:31:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, I've kinda told the wife too. She's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Worst that happens is we end up having to sell a, sell a food trailer.  

[02:31:58] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   You could probably sell it in Amarillo pretty damn quick. Oh, that's what I was thinking.   I mean   and and still get all your money back.  

[02:32:11] Duuude-Ron :

Just mine. Yeah.  

[02:32:14] Rich Chelson:

I mean, because,   you know, someone, you know, someone wanting a good deal and all like that,   you know,   yeah, they can get it and buy   it, you know, if you're done with it. But   I kinda like that idea, man.   Just French fries.  

[02:32:33] Unknown:

Just French fries.  

[02:32:35] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know what she's gonna call it. But  

[02:32:39] Rich Chelson:

Something catchy.  

[02:32:41] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[02:32:42] Rich Chelson:

You know? Gonna try it.   What's that, dude?  

[02:32:49] Unknown:

Just French fries.  

[02:32:52] Rich Chelson:

Right.   You know what? Straight straightened.  

[02:32:59] Unknown:

Just just fresh fries.   Straightened to the point.  

[02:33:04] Rich Chelson:

That's   that's actually that's actually a pretty cool name.   So that's that's just French fries.   And I mean,   you know, and that's the thing.   You know, festivals and all like that are set up near a bar and let word get out. Oh, fuck.   You you'll be busy till fucking three, four in the morning.  

[02:33:30] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hell yeah.  

[02:33:31] Rich Chelson:

You know?   I would charge, like, five, six, seven bucks.   Oh my god. You'd be my and then and then send out a tip jar?   Shit.   Dude.  

[02:33:44] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:33:48] Rich Chelson:

You would be making a you  

[02:33:55] Unknown:

would be. And if,   and if,   you know,   president Trump's   thing goes through,   you won't get, charged taxes on tips.   Right. Not that you even have to report it, but, you know, hey.  

[02:34:11] Duuude-Ron :

No. We always report our tips.   Always   report our our our our tips. Yes. Yes. We do.   IRS   don't we no. Uh-uh. We always   we always report our tips. Absolute abs absolutely. Yeah.   And But no And talking about tips It's nay on the act day.  

[02:34:44] Unknown:

And talking about Talking about tips.   Yeah.   The   and you can, you know, critique me. Tip of the day,   If you're gonna get out on the road,   drive the fucking speed limit.   That is the tip of the day. If you're gonna get in front of me, drive the fucking speed limit.  

[02:35:16] Rich Chelson:

Alright. So all you people out there, if you get in front of dude,   drive the fucking speed limit.  

[02:35:26] Unknown:

Yeah. And I understand my truck is   I understand my truck is governed, and I can only go so fast.   But, damn, if you're gonna get on the interstate,   fucking do the goddamn speed   or go back on the service road.  

[02:35:44] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Now, hell, you can ride the service road   most of the time damn near all the way where you wanna go.  

[02:35:53] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:35:56] Rich Chelson:

In Texas.  

[02:35:57] Unknown:

Do you think about that one, Brian, with your truck?   Oh, I mean Somebody gets in front of you doing 20 miles an hour below the speed limit.  

[02:36:10] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean, most of the time when they do that, it's it they're coming on.   And so if I've got time and I realize realize there's a big gap between that person and the person behind them,   and it would just be as easy for me to slide in behind them.   A lot of times,   what will get piss me off is whenever   they see that I'm behind them and so they go to stop.   And I flash my lights so they stop.   And it's like, no. Now I've lost all my fucking momentum for your dumbass. You went off and fucking stopped on me or come down slowed down to five fucking miles an hour. And now I've gotta sit there and be an asshole   trying, you know, creeping past them trying to get, get, back to speed because it never fails. The person who comes on and does that is on a freaking uphill slope, and so I'm try I'm loaded trying to go uphill. And my truck has no nuts.  



[02:37:06] Unknown:

Well, mine's an automatic, and it has even less nuts than yours. Mine's an automatic too. Yeah. Oh, okay.   Yeah. Or just in general.   If you're gonna drive,   drive the fucking speed limit.  

[02:37:23] Duuude-Ron :

Not 10 miles an hour or his lights on you for you to merge.   Get your ass over. Stomp on the fucking gas. Get up to fucking speed.   Yeah. Thank you. You will not get out in trouble for accelerating.  

[02:37:38] Unknown:

Yes.   The and the the that's that's called the skinny pedal.   Push that motherfucker down to the floor.  

[02:37:49] Rich Chelson:

And Yeah. Peep yeah. Yeah. People are still still learning that block of instruction.  

[02:38:00] Unknown:

Yeah. I got stuck behind this,   another semi today.   The speed limit is 75.   I'm governed at 65,   and this motherfucker's doing 49.  

[02:38:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:38:20] Unknown:

Why the fuck you doing forty forty nine miles an hour, motherfucker?   Let's go.   Hit the skinny pedal and fucking drive.   Don't talk on your phone.   Don't have lunch   while you're driving.   You know, don't go in the back and take a nap   when you set your cruise control.   You know?   Drive, motherfucker.   What gets me is Step on it. What gets me is these guys put   my cruise is on.   You know? And the only reason why my cruise control is on is,   if I let off for whatever reason on the skinny pedal,   the truck is still gonna   head down the road.   But it's like, don't use   the freaking cruise control   and not hit the gas when you're going up the fucking hill.  

Because trucks take about, you know,   a while to fucking react to that shit.  

[02:39:25] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hell yeah.  

[02:39:30] Unknown:

Push down on the skinny pedal.   And in the words,   and in the words of frog from smoking the pant smoking the bandit,   I got my foot on the floor, and I got the pedal to the metal and the thing to the floor.   Yeah. Take that advice.  

[02:39:55] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.  

[02:40:00] Unknown:

So I guess not too bad of a   yeah. Not the greatest point, but I'll think of a better one next week. So what do you guys think about   Ryze?   Do you know what r y z e is?   Ryze?  

[02:40:17] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. Haven't heard of it. It's  

[02:40:20] Unknown:

mushroom   coffee. Tell her, Joe.   No. It's mushroom   coffee.  

[02:40:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I've I've heard about it.  

[02:40:28] Duuude-Ron :

What? Yep. My wife actually you she uses something a little different. It's hers is called Dose,   d o s e. Yeah. That's another brand.  

[02:40:39] Unknown:

And what's it made out of?  

[02:40:42] Duuude-Ron :

It has,   Lion's Mane,   Chaga,   and   asiaga,   something like that. Asiato   it's a it's a   and turkey tail. There's, like, three or four different types of mushrooms in there.   And, hell, she   she swears by it because, I mean, she had a for a long while, she was having problems with just gas.   She was she was eating, eating GasX like it was, you know,   like a fat kid found found the jelly beans.   And   she said after she's been she's been doing,   taking daily dose for about well, coming on the third month now.   And   she said, well, about somewhere around February, she realized she didn't eat she wasn't eating near as many Gas X, and she was actually   she was actually doing all she did say, though, you can't she can't drink it. She was one, she doesn't like it. She doesn't like the flavor of it very well because it tends to coffee.  

So what she does is she she puts in the amount that she needs, and then she pours real coffee on it and then tops it off with milk.   So so that it it kinda sweetens it up a bit and kinda gets rid of the instant coffee flavor.   But,   but if you she has to she can only drink it for, like, four days at a stretch, and then she has to lay off for about three days   before she starts drinking again. Because she says about,   about the fifth or sixth day, all of a sudden,   it it starts speeding up her digestive system way too fast. Uh-huh. So she's   so she has to go sit on the toilet all the time. So she's like,   so I have to I figured out. Drink for four days. Let it set for three. Drink for four days. Let it set for three. So  

[02:42:36] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shoot. I mean, keep drinking it because,   oh, hey. As long as you're pooping, you're losing weight. Right? That's the way I look at it.  

[02:42:46] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, because Only if you're like me and you're full of shit.   Oh, well. Right? Well, they say that's like that's why I write my write my weight on the wall every time I go to the bathroom.  

[02:42:59] Unknown:

Yeah. That's that's Would that would be would that kinda, like, be the aspect of   when a truck driver   that has so much fucking smarts   that he is knows he's overweight   and takes 50 pounds out of each tire   to bring his   to bring his weight down?  

[02:43:22] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. I've I'll wrap my weight on the wall so I know how much to take out if I at at the end of the day.  

[02:43:30] Rich Chelson:

No. I've been I've been seeing these things. You know, people talk about them and stuff, but but I've never   I I don't know. I I mean,   these claims that they make,   it's like,   I don't   I don't know. So, actually, it's it's good to know that   that your wife   is actually doing it. I mean Yeah.   Has she noticed,   you know, like, more energy and stuff like that?  

[02:44:03] Duuude-Ron :

I don't think it's so much, more energy.   Just   she finds that she doesn't have quite as much brain fog when she wakes up in the morning, which I kinda think a lot of brain fog is is actually hangover from sugar.   Alright.   But, but most most of it is that she notices   that and I think it's turkey tail that causes that,   is good for the digestion.   But,   whichever whichever shroom it is that she's she's consuming,   that's helping her digestion.   Like I said, that's that's the main thing that is really helping. She's not   producing as much gas as she was.  

Right. I mean, I'm not saying that my wife was hovering above the bed farting so much. She was doing more she was doing more belching than she was anything else. She was just she said she just tell when she had too much when she was gassy because her stomach would get all hard and and   and become a little distended,   from it. And she took GasX. She was it would go down at by the end of the day. So she just kinda sat there and got into the habit of just eating GasX.  

[02:45:17] Unknown:

Right. Well, me, when it comes to coffee, I'm gonna have coffee.   Yeah. Real coffee.  

[02:45:25] Rich Chelson:

Well, this I mean Not extreme coffee. But   Dude, I'm I'm, I'm, looking at the at the label.  

[02:45:33] Unknown:

And,  

[02:45:35] Rich Chelson:

it does have coffee actual coffee in it.  

[02:45:38] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:45:40] Rich Chelson:

So, I mean, it's it's not   just mushrooms or mushroom blueberries. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. And, actually, on the ingredients,   you can read every freaking ingredient.  

[02:45:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It all   they're all real words and not 13 syllables.  

[02:45:58] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. It just I, you know, I had seen this stuff and, you know, I had heard some of these claims and it's like,   really?   And and I I mean, that's the first time I looked it up to see,   how much   it cost. And, I mean, yeah, it's a little expensive, but,  

[02:46:19] Duuude-Ron :

you know Yeah. It's $30.  

[02:46:22] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's, yeah, that's the,   yeah, that's just for 30 servings of   well, with RISE,   they're having a sale, so it's 27.   But, yeah, if you get the starter kit   or the one with the gifts and all like this or I don't know. I don't know. But, it's like $57.   But, oh, you get two months worth 60 servings.   Or I I guess they want you to drink one cup a day.   See, that'd be my problem.   I couldn't do that.  

[02:47:01] Unknown:

I was gonna say, the size of my mug   and the number of those I drink a day,   yeah, I know that should last for, what, about a week.  

[02:47:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. Well, it says   okay. How to prepare? Add one   teaspoon or tablespoon   of the rice coffee   for eight to 10 ounces of hot or cold cold water stirred up,   and add any creamer or sweetener you'd like, and then sip on the magic.  

[02:47:33] Duuude-Ron :

So   that's the same two preparing.  

[02:47:38] Unknown:

Yeah. I have to use one of those per cup.  

[02:47:42] Rich Chelson:

What? Bags?   Because I don't I don't think you'd use one.   How much coffee do you use?   Because you drink instant.  

[02:47:55] Unknown:

A heaping tablespoon.  

[02:48:00] Rich Chelson:

You might get 60 cups out of it if you're lucky.  

[02:48:09] Unknown:

Okay. So   that would be about a month. No. Not quite. About three weeks.   Because I usually do three cups three of my cups a day.  

[02:48:21] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Well, let's see. I drink I drink,   six coffee cups a day.   So   about ten days for me.  

[02:48:31] Unknown:

Well, that's a pot. Right?  

[02:48:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's a pot. Yeah. Six cups is a pot for me. Yeah. Oh, okay.   Yeah. It's funny. You see, you know, when they say, coffee pots or 12 cup,   you know, coffee makers,   they lie out their ass.   Oh, yeah. Because my cups,   I get six,  

[02:48:53] Duuude-Ron :

maybe.   You know?  

[02:48:56] Rich Chelson:

And if I use my bigger cup, I get four   or three.  

[02:49:02] Unknown:

So Yeah. All depends on the size of the cup. Ship.   All depends on the size of the cup.  

[02:49:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They say 12 cups and what?   That's some little teacups where you have to hold your cookie out while you're doing shit. Yeah. No. I no.  

[02:49:21] Unknown:

A pot? That's two cups for me   of my cup.  

[02:49:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh, well, yeah, dude. Your cup's pretty big.  

[02:49:30] Unknown:

Now my other coffee cup,   that cup can   hold a pot and a half of coffee.  

[02:49:38] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. I've got I've got one that can hold a pot.   Yeah. I just I just haven't used it in a while.   But yeah. No.   See, that's the thing. Yeah. I'd seen these videos. I just I just had never   and I don't always believe what these people say. You know?   But   and you can get it,   shipped to you every month.  

[02:50:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:50:14] Rich Chelson:

So   you set it up, and it can ship to you.   Brian, have you tried this yet? Oh, that's right. You you don't drink coffee.  

[02:50:29] Duuude-Ron :

What?   You said you didn't drink coffee. Who told you I don't drink coffee?   You?  

[02:50:38] Rich Chelson:

Me. Or is that someone else that said that?  

[02:50:41] Unknown:

He goes through about nine thermoses of, Truckstop coffee.  

[02:50:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I drink I drink coffee.   I'm almost offended that you thought I didn't drink coffee.  

[02:50:54] Rich Chelson:

My bad. My bad. I no. I I just I don't know why. I just it just,  

[02:51:00] Duuude-Ron :

who is who is that who is that talking to Sunday? Yeah. I like I like drip coffee better than what these modern truck stops have got that Insta grind.   Oh, I hate that shit. Yeah. But it it man, it doesn't taste right. It's not No. Didn't take long enough to percolate through there. I mean, it just it doesn't it it's awful, and everybody's going to it. I know it's it's it's   it probably saves them about   $50 a month   Yeah. In in   and filters, but that's the extent of it.  

[02:51:38] Rich Chelson:

But but the thing is what they charge for a price of fucking coffee,   they don't need to save that $50.  

[02:51:46] Duuude-Ron :

They want to get 300.   Yeah.  

[02:51:49] Rich Chelson:

I mean, come on now. Really?  

[02:51:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I mean, the one place that I like to stop to get my coffee is over at Sethco and come to find out, apparently, Casey's has bought fucking Sethco.   Oh, no.   Yeah.   And   I have tried   I've tried Casey's food three different times so far,   and I don't like any of their damn food.  

[02:52:17] Rich Chelson:

No. It's no.   Trust me. I I freaking ate Casey's food for years, and I can't stand it now.  

[02:52:24] Duuude-Ron :

I've only eaten it three times, and I can't stand any of it. I mean, it was just like   I was like, first first thing I tried was,   were their,   were their donut holes. I was like, oh, okay. Sure. Yeah. Can't screw up a donut hole. Guess what? You can screw up a donut hole.  

[02:52:43] Rich Chelson:

Have you tried their breakfast pizza?  

[02:52:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, god. Yeah. That sounds a bit just nasty.  

[02:52:49] Rich Chelson:

What?  

[02:52:50] Duuude-Ron :

Ew. So there's a chemical taste to it. It's either cheese or something. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the crust or if it's the cheese or what, but, boy, there is an off taste in that thing. And it's not like a rotten taste as long as bad cheese or anything. It's just it's just nasty taste shit. I was just like, holy   fuck. It's like, no.   It's it's like and then so I was like, alright. Let's and and let's try the,   I don't know. It's probably about a month or so later. I was over at, over at Casey's over in,   over in Oklahoma City   and,   grabbed a grabbed a breakfast burrito and   goddamn, if it didn't also taste horrible. It was just like, son of a gun. Does Casey just not know how to make fucking food? And if they did, they don't. Why do they insist on trying to make their own damn food?  



[02:53:40] Rich Chelson:

Well, they must have changed because,   their breakfast pizzas used to be the freaking bomb, man. Oh,   good. Used to be. I mean, I don't know anymore because, I mean, I've eaten I've eaten so much of it. I can't. I can't eat it now. Oh, no. Well, I've eaten I've eaten enough of it, and I can't.  

[02:54:03] Duuude-Ron :

Now there is,   over here in Oklahoma, there is kind of the the,   competitor to, I guess, Casey's.   There's apparently three different,   convenience stores that   truck stop convenience store combos that are kind of in compete with each other because,   Easy Go has gone bye bye. They were bought up by Casey's. Or well What?   A lot of the Easy Go's were bought up by Casey's,   but the Easy Go's that were bought up that were on, the toll roads   Uh-huh. In Oklahoma, they were they have been turned into,   into Luvs.  

[02:54:44] Rich Chelson:

That's just rude, man. I love DizzyGoes.  

[02:54:47] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. No. I've got an easy go 80, 80 ounce cup.   These,   still. So   but then I also went off and got an e mark, an e express,   hundred ounce cup   and, went off and filled that thing up with Coke.   I'll let you know a hundred ounces of Coke   is too much Coke.   I've and I've worked on that thing   all   day long. And at the end by the end of the day, I wasn't feeling right. I was, like, going, holy crap, man. I think I'm about two sips away from having diabetes set then real quick.   It was just I wasn't feeling right. It was like, okay. That's I realized   I've only been able to drink out of that thing once. And after that, it's like,   if I if I wanna fill it up and I wanna have something I could slurp on all day long, it becomes tea. It's just I'll I'll do tea.  

And it's funny because no one knows how to ring it up since it's a hundred ounces.   But,   but, yeah, that's   but, yeah, Ezygo is, Ezygo is gone.   That's messed up. Yep. I'm rude. And, most of them are like I said, most of them are bought up by by Casey's.   But there's Casey's,   there's,   eMarket Express,   which   they're   if you wanna get cheap diesel,   that's where you go in Oklahoma. You go to the e Market Express.   Doctor. Mitchell, you also get a free, free Coke,   there free Coke or a free, free shower, which a lot of places seem to be going away. It was steering away from that. Well, yeah, a lot of them are.   But but they have it, so it's it's great.  

But there's each one of them there's one that's off of I 35, and they have got five different restaurants available there.   There's the Mi Familia. There is,   the Yellow Submarine,   and a couple others I've never heard of. Some type of bar or not bar and grill, but some type of grill   in which I guess makes their the Americana,   you know, hamburger, hot dog stuff.   And,   may familia is   is kind of kind of my favorite because you can make these just big ass fucking nacho   monstrosities   that are just absolutely amazing.   Because it's basically, they're using the, the Subway model of you choose what you want, and then you want all you wanna throw on top of it.  

Yeah. So you go off, get the nachos, and they give you this big old platter of nachos or chips. And so what type of nachos you want? And we'd go, well, let's have the, hamburger beans or the the taco meat with, some some,   refried beans and and,   yellow cheese sauce.   Alright. So what else do you want on there? I'll throw a shit ton of onions and this and that and these and those and some of this, a little bit of this and that and so you get this BS   pile of,   of, of   you've got, like, an eighth of chips, and the rest is just everything else you throw it on there. It's all it's amazing. It's amazing.   And, so yeah. And it's it's not horrendously expensive. This is, like, you know, like,   like, $7 for a for a big ass plate of nachos.  

So Oh, it does. Yeah. No. No. I mean, you still don't get out of there without spending $10,   but, you know, it's it's better than Subway that's you know, try to get a large large sandwich and a Coke, and it ends up costing you 15.  

[02:58:31] Unknown:

So Yep. Yep.  

[02:58:34] Duuude-Ron :

So but it it's getting stuff, mannered.   But, but, anyhow,   so, yeah, it's top roast. Start landing this big old bird on it down for the night. Call it call it a day.   So, guys, I wanna say thanks,   thanks to all the folks who have come on, come on and listen. If you're listening live,   we our show is, is played on modern podcast apps. We are a live and we have light lit and lit are are shown or well, we've activated the live in per live item tag. So it's a lit tag. We got the bat signal on. However you wanna describe it. But either way, we have have that on, and if you would like to be able to listen to our show while driving down the road and not have to worry about   worry about losing any,   any of the great and wonderful wealth of information that we provide.  

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[03:06:57] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. It's this late at night. I I don't have too many thoughts. Right. Right. Shutting down, honestly.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's it's late.   But, no. Not really. But now just   just, yeah, I wanna thank everybody for listening and keeping coming back. It's it's it's,   it's just awesome. And,   you know, like, Brian said, just give us   give us your thoughts. You know? If you wanna help   out in any way, that would be really, really great   because, we are Brian and I are not web designers or   graphic   engineers or designers or whatever that that frame of mind or frame of words is. I don't know. But either way,   we need help in that area. You know?  

I'm an AI whore when it comes to a lot of the pictures because   my brain is just does not function   even during the day. That's why I'm looking at getting this mushroom coffee. Maybe it'll help me think of something.   But, no, just, thanks for listening. Tell your friends. Share it, you know, with,   someone you love, someone you hate.   You know? Who knows? Yeah.   Because believe me, we we will normally   find a way to piss at least one person off,   every week. Hey. It's it's it's a given with us. So,   yeah, send us an email. You can send it to [email protected]   or   send it to me, [email protected].  

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[03:09:08] Unknown:

Well, you know, I'm glad that one of my just   out of the blue thoughts   about the, mushroom coffee, you know, that you may take and run with that and   have it yourself. Me, I'm just gonna I do instant, and I'm just gonna stick with mine. Actually, I don't know.   I could use some fucking   brain   energy.   But, again, everybody, thanks for   listening to us and,   enjoying   our conversation.  

[03:09:49] Rich Chelson:

So  

[03:09:51] Duuude-Ron :

and, absolutely, we are   incredibly grateful for the opportunity that,   that we are provided here to be able   to,   get together   and and talk with each other because we are just three guys who enjoy being able to,   to   share our thoughts with each other and and and see if we can get each other to laugh or get each other wound up in somewhat form faster than another.   So it's it's good to, good to be able to talk to you two gentlemen, and, can't wait to see y'all again next week and see what type of weird things we got to talk about then.  

[03:10:28] Rich Chelson:

So Same here.  

[03:10:31] Duuude-Ron :

So with that, guys, go ahead, and I'll let y'all go. Y'all have yourselves a good night. Those of y'all listening, thank y'all again for, listening. We will see y'all also next week. So till then. Bye.  

[03:10:45] Rich Chelson:

Peace out.  

[03:10:46] Unknown:

See you.  

[03:10:48] Duuude-Ron :

Alright, guys. Good till next week. Alright. Stay safe. Bye. Goodbye.