Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this lively episode of "Two Grumpy Vets," hosts Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude gather for their weekly chat, sharing humorous anecdotes and engaging in thought-provoking discussions. The trio kicks off with a light-hearted exchange about everyday mishaps, like misplaced keys and the challenges of keeping track of daily tasks. As the conversation unfolds, they delve into a hypothetical scenario of being the last person on Earth, exploring the humorous and practical aspects of such a situation. Their banter is filled with laughter and camaraderie, showcasing the importance of friendship and intentional living.

 The episode takes a deeper turn as the hosts discuss the role of religion in modern society, touching on topics like the Catholic Church, the concept of sainthood, and the interpretation of religious texts. They share personal insights and opinions, reflecting on their own experiences and beliefs. The conversation is candid and unfiltered, embodying the show's commitment to open dialogue and diverse perspectives. Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain a balance of humor and sincerity, making for an engaging and thought-provoking listen.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian,   Rich, and the dude.  

[00:00:35] Rich Chelson:

Dude.   What's up, Rich?  

[00:00:38] Duuude-Ron :

What's going on, man?  

[00:00:40] Rich Chelson:

I see that you've failed in your mission for today.  

[00:00:43] Duuude-Ron :

How did I fail?  

[00:00:45] Rich Chelson:

You didn't send me a picture.  

[00:00:49] Duuude-Ron :

I took the picture. I just hadn't sent it to you.   Yeah. I know. I was  

[00:00:56] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So you failed   75%.   I'll give you the 25%.  

[00:01:03] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well, I appreciate it.   I appreciate it. Yeah. No. It was funny. I was walking back out of my truck   and,   or my Jeep, and, I'm like, oh, yeah. I need to take a picture. And I was like,   yeah.   Yeah. I'll send it to dude when I got home, and then, yeah, I got sidetracked.  

[00:01:24] Rich Chelson:

Oh.   So Yeah. Well, that that's not hard for you. No. That's not.   You know, here's a bad thing.   I fucking   spun a wheel for about forty five minutes today.  

[00:01:38] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[00:01:39] Rich Chelson:

Spinning wheel. Fuck. Yeah, man. I tell you what. Pissed me the hell off. How'd you spin a wheel for forty five minutes?   Well, I got to the house   Alan. And I'm checking my pocket   for my fucking   keys.   I'm like,   son of a bitch.   I must have let them   in the forklift   ignition   because I have, like a dumbass, my house key,   those keys with my forklift key. Right?   Okay. So it's rush hour traffic   and traffic around here, like any place   in a medium to large city, fucking   sucks.   So it took me   forty five minutes   to get back to work   to figure out   that the fucking keys   were in the wrong damn pocket.  

And I had them   all along.   I'm like,   goddamn.  

[00:02:48] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god.  

[00:02:51] Unknown:

Those are days,   aren't they?  

[00:02:54] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god. What yeah. I'm like   so I get there. I look in the ignition, and what what the fuck? And then check my other pockets like, motherfucker.  

[00:03:08] Duuude-Ron :

Let me ask you a question just just to,   better understand the dude here.   Why don't you put your forklift and house keys on your Jeep key ring?  

[00:03:23] Rich Chelson:

Because that's too many fucking keys on one ring.  

[00:03:26] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Okay. I I mean, I've   got all of my keys on on my Jeep key ring. So if I have my Jeep key, I know I have every key I need.  

[00:03:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I see. No. I having a lot of keys like that on one ring   just   no. It just doesn't   it doesn't   seat well in my pocket.  

[00:03:52] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Well, I've got three or four key rings on on one major key ring, so I've got them separated. It's not like a big   I don't look like a janitor. Okay? Let's just say that. Oh, come on. No. I gave that look up a long time ago.   Or  

[00:04:09] Rich Chelson:

a,   guard in a prison.  

[00:04:16] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. No. I mean yeah. Yeah. I gave that look up a long time ago.  

[00:04:22] Rich Chelson:

I have always hated that look.  

[00:04:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   No. Back in the day, that was that was the end thing, man.  

[00:04:29] Rich Chelson:

Back in the day. Back back in the day, I still hated it.  

[00:04:35] Duuude-Ron :

So, Brian, what you been up to today, dude? Well, not a whole  

[00:04:40] Unknown:

heap of lot, honestly.   Just,  

[00:04:42] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:04:43] Unknown:

Just   kinda been   been   did a little work in the living room. Just try to get it,   try to get it all all under control and and stuff. Just trying to figure out where I'm gonna set my   stuff whenever I get done with the, with the day. And   so it's just been a   it's been kinda just typical,   typical day and just   nothing that's excessively exciting happening.  

[00:05:16] Rich Chelson:

Right. Oh, now now I'm confused.   You didn't drive today?  

[00:05:21] Unknown:

No.   I'm off today. I'm off for the next six days.   Okay.   So I got I I I thought you I work  

[00:05:39] Rich Chelson:

I thought you went day shift  

[00:05:42] Unknown:

then night shift No. And then off.  

[00:05:46] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:05:47] Unknown:

Exact opposite.  

[00:05:49] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Well, what the hell do I know?   I don't work for them. So   so now even though you are due   now even though that you are new,   you won't get paid for the six days. Right?  

[00:06:12] Unknown:

No. No. No. This is all No.   This is just, this is day off.  

[00:06:17] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Gotcha.   Well, what? You worked for a whopping   three days?  

[00:06:27] Unknown:

No. No. Actually, I worked, I've done basically two weeks.   Did Right. Yeah. Yeah. I did the first week.   First week, which is orientation.  

[00:06:44] Rich Chelson:

And then,  

[00:06:46] Unknown:

and then did six days,   six days of driving.  

[00:06:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Well, well, hopefully,   you don't have a right seat rider, do you, for any length of time?  

[00:07:04] Unknown:

Oh, no. No. It's just me. Oh. So I get to sit there and talk to myself, pick my nose all day long.   And the only person I'll see is the, is the is the person who happens to be nosey enough to look into the right hand mirror   or the right in the in the rear view,   camera.  

[00:07:24] Rich Chelson:

And the one in the cab? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Rear view rear view cam camera. Yeah. That's what I was talking about. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.   Yeah. Gotcha.  

[00:07:36] Duuude-Ron :

So  

[00:07:38] Unknown:

so   but as we I was driving around   this week, I was listening to a a podcast,   and   the podcast had a really interesting question.   Okay. And that question was   if   you woke up   you got up one morning   and come to find out   everybody   on Earth   is gone.   Maybe it was the rapture. Maybe it was something else. Something something happened. Anyhow, you're the last person   in a,   say, a 500 mile radius.   What are you gonna do?  

[00:08:32] Duuude-Ron :

You know, that's that's a good question.  

[00:08:35] Rich Chelson:

You know, there are so many variables to that aspect.   Is   the electric is the electricity still on? Well, I mean, it'll run for a little while, won't it? Well, yeah. It'll run for a little while. Not very long, but a little while. No. I mean, it why not?  

[00:08:55] Duuude-Ron :

I mean I mean,   electricity is electricity as long as as long as they've got our running through the lines.   Electricity will stay on.  

[00:09:06] Unknown:

For real? Unless unless you got something, you know, like,   say, like, you have,   like, the the nuclear reactor there in in, in Arkansas.   You know? After a little while, if it's got a weird little,   little fluctuation, you know, they typically ought to have an auto shutdown.  

[00:09:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But but did  

[00:09:30] Unknown:

you didn't make that part of the question. It was just like Oh, no. I mean, the rest of everything else in the world is gonna run like it normally does.   The issue that you run into is that you're the only person around.   For 500 miles? For about 500 miles. Yeah.  

[00:09:48] Duuude-Ron :

Well, first day, I'm a run around naked.  

[00:09:53] Unknown:

Gonna go skinny dipping everywhere.  

[00:09:55] Duuude-Ron :

Probably.  

[00:09:57] Rich Chelson:

I thought you didn't run, Rich.  

[00:10:00] Duuude-Ron :

I don't run. That's that's the whole thing. That that's why he's gonna run around naked.  

[00:10:05] Unknown:

He didn't have anybody watching him as he runs, so he's gonna do it naked.  

[00:10:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. He's gonna he's only gonna be able to do it in place because he ain't gonna fucking be able to get down the damn block.  

[00:10:15] Unknown:

Right. Well, he didn't say he's gonna run around far.  

[00:10:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Say I say I didn't specify   as to how far I was gonna go in any one direction.  

[00:10:27] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   To the patio and back into the house.   Gotcha. Right. That's how far your knees are gonna handle.  

[00:10:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Probably.  

[00:10:36] Rich Chelson:

Probably.  

[00:10:39] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. No. I'll go shopping, man. I'll go shopping.  

[00:10:43] Unknown:

Go pick up all the stuff you've been wanting to have for a long while and just never had the money for it.  

[00:10:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Yep. And and probably stop at a Waffle House, cook my own,  

[00:10:55] Unknown:

breakfast.   Getting your own getting a fight with yourself just because, you know, that's Waffle House experience. You gotta have a fight somewhere. Oh, yeah. Definitely.  

[00:11:04] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   I don't know. I that's   that's funny.   I asked   that's a question I never would have thought of,   but it'd be a lot of fun.  

[00:11:18] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know,   you wouldn't have to go to work.  

[00:11:23] Duuude-Ron :

Well, this is true.  

[00:11:25] Unknown:

Boss wouldn't know that you'd left.  

[00:11:27] Rich Chelson:

Because he's not there.  

[00:11:29] Unknown:

Exactly.  

[00:11:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So   and who am I gonna who who am I gonna deliver to?   Dude, they open.  

[00:11:41] Duuude-Ron :

You wouldn't need to work. You wouldn't need no money. Stores are open.  

[00:11:46] Unknown:

Well, that's right. But at the same time,   I would say, though, that   that you probably would wanna go ahead   and be doing something just because   that's gonna be a lot of   that's gonna be a lot of loneliness going on there.   I do that every day, so it's all good. As long as I could,  

[00:12:10] Rich Chelson:

get a   siphon,   you know, a siphon pump   Uh-huh. And be able to, you know, whatever   filling station I go to and pop the lid from the,   the bulk tank and just siphon the fuel out, I would fucking take my trip,   my what's that? Bucket list trip   to   and do the Appalachian Trail.  

[00:12:39] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   See, there you go, man.   I mean, think about it. You're the only one for, like, 500 miles. So anytime you went 500 miles, you might, probably not, but you might find someone else. And if you don't, then guess what?   You just   fill your Jeep up and be gone. Keep going again.  

[00:13:04] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Because   that person  

[00:13:07] Unknown:

because you said everybody in the world was gone. Well, everybody everybody within a pop of their mouth. You know? Okay. There was there's   possibility of somebody else, you know, within a within a 500 mile radius.   So they all of a sudden,   there's less than   a half a percent of the world population left on Earth.  

[00:13:29] Duuude-Ron :

We'll we'll look at it like that.  

[00:13:31] Rich Chelson:

So, hopefully,   the guy that's within the next 500 miles   is on the northern side of his boundary, and I'll go to the southern side of his boundary.   And, hopefully, we won't   pass each other.   But the thing is is   because I only do I don't like to cook for shit.   You know?   Hot dogs and hamburgers might get   A little old.   A little old after a while, but, you know, hell, I fucking had MREs for a long fucking time over in Iraq   before we got in this   whole.   So I would   be actually loving it because   no fucking traffic   because nobody likes traffic.   I'm not I loved it. I've you know, I enjoyed   driving   when   the pandemic   hit.  

Oh, god. Yeah.   Because the roads were so freaking   dead.  

[00:14:50] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:14:58] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, I would   but, again, yeah, it would get lonely pretty quick as well.   You wouldn't you wouldn't have anybody to, you know, flip off, you know, or to tailgate.   Nobody to yell at on the road even though they can't hear you, nor do they give a shit. You   know?   Yeah. That that you know, it might get lonely.   But you never know. I might see that person that's on the next 500 mile radius   and say,   hey.  

[00:15:36] Unknown:

Let's fucking go hot redhead.  

[00:15:41] Rich Chelson:

You know, I have two I have two of those.  

[00:15:47] Unknown:

Just rather just keep the fan turned on?  

[00:15:51] Rich Chelson:

You fucking talk about   the redhead with with temperaments?   Yeah.   Both of them.   So   I've lived   I have lived   through that for the last thirty five years.  

[00:16:10] Duuude-Ron :

Dude wants a blind.  

[00:16:12] Unknown:

Okay. Okay. Well, we can do that too.  

[00:16:15] Rich Chelson:

You know what?   I don't give a shit.   You know, just somebody to have, you   know, companionship with.   Yeah. Yeah. And then we wouldn't have to worry about   anybody else   because   I would make sure that I deviated and made damn sure I didn't find anybody else.   You do. It's just dodge.  

[00:16:49] Unknown:

Oh, shit. There's people.  

[00:16:53] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-oh.   Yeah. People.  

[00:16:58] Rich Chelson:

And, you know, here's the thing.   That if   that person that's in that other 500 mile radius Right.   Is   in Walmart   acquiring   we ain't gonna steal anything. We acquire   Yeah. No. It's it's Yeah. We're in the military.  

[00:17:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:17:19] Rich Chelson:

Yep. We don't ever steal. We acquire.   We we we will acquire your shit, though. That's right. And, you know, one of the people   there you go.   Acquire and appropriate.   Okay. If they're both in the same Walmart,   would they nark on each other?   But then who would they nark on   To the, what, to the next   person in the next 500 meters or 500 miles? Well, by that time, I'm fucking gone.   So   Yeah. It would definitely be   that would definitely be interesting.  

[00:18:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It it would. I mean, you could do so much   and have no no   no restraints.   Which podcast did you hear this on, Brian?  

[00:18:28] Unknown:

I'm trying to remember. It was a prepping,   podcast.   Been listening to a few prepping podcasts and stuff here recently, and so I was   oh, what was it?   It wasn't mine for survival.   I think it was casual prepper, might have been what it was called.  

[00:18:50] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:18:54] Rich Chelson:

And here here's   now when they asked that question,   did they give a any type of response?  

[00:19:01] Unknown:

Well, yeah, they were given their responses   as a means of   showing why you how to be be ready for emergencies is kinda how they were going with it.   So Got it. So, you know, first thing you probably wanna do is go through and make sure you have   you wanna make sure you get all the water that you can   that you you're gonna want because, you know, you're gonna start off with,   with all the,   you know, you'll probably start off with with   tap water,   but you don't know when the chemicals in the tap water are gonna give out.   So Yeah. It may not be as as sanitary as you like. So from there, you'll probably be taking trips to Walmart   and picking up water. And while you're at Walmart, if the electricity is still around, then you've got all the different types of meats and stuff, the grocery stores, and the and things like that.  

But and so you'd wanna start figuring out how to stockpile, how do you how do you,   extend the life of meat for whenever the electricity   does go out.   You start   thinking of,   of all what's perishable, what's not perishable.   Get, you know, heard,   finally heard somebody else talk about something I'd, I'd come across, I don't know, about a year or two ago.   That just kinda surprised me, and I'd never thought of it before. But it's,   you know, knowing how to, like, water glass eggs.  

[00:20:41] Rich Chelson:

Water glass eggs.  

[00:20:43] Unknown:

Yeah. Water glassing an egg is basically   it's   you take you wanna have something like a pickle jar.   And you,   you fill the, you take your eggs,   and you fill fill the pickle jar up with eggs. And then from within with that, you add, water.   I wanna say lime.   Buying a % sure. It might   but water, lime, and a couple other things.   And what it does is it   keeps those eggs   shelf stable for about a year.   Oh, okay. Now the the yolks, you wouldn't be able to have a sunny side up egg because the yolks would,   would I'm gonna say deteriorate.   They wouldn't be the nice, firm, beautiful, all around the yolk that they used to be. When you crack it, it would be it would be a runny yolk.  

But at the same time, it's still edible, still has the protein   and and other vitamins that you need out of an egg.  

[00:21:54] Rich Chelson:

I wonder what the taste would be like.  

[00:21:57] Unknown:

Supposed to taste like an egg.  

[00:21:59] Duuude-Ron :

I was gonna say probably just an egg because it's basically, what you're doing is is kinda like, pickling it.  

[00:22:06] Unknown:

Yeah. In a in a way pickling,   without being because, I mean, you pickle an egg with, it it it when it's hard boiled. So  

[00:22:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. I mean, that's   you're just doing it before you hard boil it. Yeah. So, I mean, in a roundabout way, yes, you are pickling the egg.   So, yeah, it'll stay good.  

[00:22:32] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know what? You just make a scrambled egg sandwich.  

[00:22:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Make scrambled eggs. You,   also   fried eggs.  

[00:22:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. They can go with egg. Yeah. You can  

[00:22:44] Unknown:

do that. You could also make   make,   you know, use the eggs for, like, baking and stuff like that. So   so you could you'd be able to mix it up in in, like, flour and   items like that and be able to have a,   have a have a, an egg that,   may look a little different, but,   that works just the same.  

[00:23:15] Duuude-Ron :

Nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't turn it down.  

[00:23:18] Unknown:

Oh, heck  

[00:23:19] Duuude-Ron :

no.   I didn't get fat by being picky.   The  

[00:23:28] Unknown:

doctor from four my four hundred pound life is just one of those guys that just is a riot because he states the obvious,   especially whenever you they have,   someone who is   evidently very,   self diluted in their in their   in their means of actions and like that. Like, one gal, it was like, well, I'm I'm kinda picky with my food.   And the guy looks at doctor looks at her and goes, you're four hundred and eighty pounds.   You are not   picky with your food.   It's like, you've never been picky a day in your life. You ain't been picky at all. So  

[00:24:16] Rich Chelson:

and if you and if you are picky,   whatever you are picking of   is gonna be   five or six meals   Exactly.   That you don't fucking need.  

[00:24:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that's crazy.   Yeah. I know. That's  

[00:24:42] Unknown:

but, yeah, it's   there there   there's,   interestingly enough, there are quite a few people who would claim that they are rather picky with their food   and   and, and still be   way heavier than they need to be. So   but now it's just it it that the whole that whole thought experiment of what you would do is is one of those that just   just   hey. Hey.   An interesting little well, well, it's a thought experiment. It's what say what it actually is. Just  

[00:25:23] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But but see, though, that's the thing. Okay?   Let's say let's say that there was to happen.   You really,   you would actually work harder   than you did at your job, whatever your job was.   Right.   Because   because that's the thing. As soon as you found supplies,   brought them back, the next day, you've got to go out and start start   refilling the supplies you're using, plus get more.   I mean, you   it it it wouldn't be a a a fun thing, like, you know, like, like, we were thinking.   You know, you'd be I mean, yeah, you'd be the only person in 500 miles, so you would have access to quite a bit of stuff, but   you would need to   basically   get it to your location,   and that's work, you know, because like me Absolutely.  

Like me, I'm like a mile, mile and a half   from Walmart or from you know, I'm a half mile from the grocery store.   So   so,   you know, yeah, I could drive there,   load up my Jeep, come home and stuff like that, but then I gotta put everything away.   And, you know, it just there's just so much to do   that, you know, people don't realize that it's   you ain't gonna be able to just, you know, sit on the couch in your drawers eating Cheetos.  

[00:26:52] Unknown:

No. No. You definitely wouldn't wanna be just sitting there. That's for darn sure. No. No. You couldn't.  

[00:26:59] Duuude-Ron :

Because, you know, like you said, you know, if the,   you know, electric went out, you know, where the minerals in the water or the shit they put in the water goes out,   you need to make sure you have enough water.   Oh, it's at the store. Well, you know, you have to get it from the store   to where you're ever you're at.  

[00:27:20] Rich Chelson:

Yep. And here's the other thing. How long have we had electricity?  

[00:27:26] Duuude-Ron :

Long time.  

[00:27:30] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:27:31] Unknown:

Roughly about a hundred years is what we've actually had the   we've had for,   like, usable electricity.  

[00:27:40] Duuude-Ron :

A long time.   I mean, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean,  

[00:27:45] Unknown:

you can look at it as as, been   a hundred years being a a rather long time. Yeah. I I guess you're right.  

[00:27:52] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So a hundred a hundred years. Okay. We'll we'll agree with a hundred years   that we've had usable   electricity.   What the fuck have they been doing for the last   five thousand years?   Right.   Without electricity.   Candles,  

[00:28:13] Duuude-Ron :

you know Sunlight?  

[00:28:15] Rich Chelson:

Oil,   whale oil.   Yeah. You know?   Camping or cooking by   a stove.   Mhmm. Wood. You know?   So the world has survived   Oh, yeah. By our well,   humans roughly five thousand years.   And but we've only had usable electricity   for a hundred years,   and we've had   cell phone technology   with a tap screen for about  

[00:28:53] Unknown:

Twenty. Actually, not yeah. About twenty years. About twenty years. Yep. Yeah. I gave it to you.  

[00:29:00] Rich Chelson:

You know, and god forbid   if you don't fucking have your cell phone   within reaching   distance.  

[00:29:10] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:29:11] Rich Chelson:

You know?  

[00:29:12] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's why that's why that  

[00:29:15] Rich Chelson:

Obviously, you wouldn't need it if you're the only one there. But okay. What the fuck did people do in the twenties   for long distance communication?   They know they wrote a fucking letter. You know, that's how I communicated over in Iraq.   Yeah. There was no fucking computers. There was no   nothing.   You it was all by snail mail.  

[00:29:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Also by the telegraph.   But still, it's it's you see, that's the thing.   That shows how soft we've gotten   in that short amount of time.  

[00:29:52] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:29:54] Duuude-Ron :

And and if and if and if we was to just,   all of a sudden, one day go back to   the way it used to be a hundred years ago,   a lot of people would die.  

[00:30:05] Unknown:

They would not survive. Well, yeah, certainly. And that's the reason that's one of the reasons behind   the whole prepper movement   is because   most people,   you know, all of a sudden, the Internet goes out. Holy shit. What are we gonna do?   How are you we gonna communicate with each other? I can't text my I can't text, my,   you know, my significant other because I don't have a phone in my hand.  

[00:30:33] Rich Chelson:

You know? Well, I remember that.  

[00:30:35] Unknown:

And that would be if just the,   just the cell towers went out.   So, you know, what if, you know, what if something happened and,   you know, all of a sudden,   some weird   variation of, an EMP goes off   or a mass, corn, corneal mass ejection   goes off,   but it doesn't affect   any of the other lines except   for radio waves.   You know? All of a sudden a lot of people up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's screw a lot of people up. I mean, it send us back to,   you know, twenty years back when or thirty years when back when cell phones first came about.   You know? What were we doing? Well, we were actually doing the what we joke about nowadays where   you you had to play,   you had to play a, a gambling game of who's ringing, who's calling me on the phone.  

Right.   And pick it up and go,   hello?  

[00:31:41] Duuude-Ron :

You see, that's the thing. No one has a landline anymore, so that would  

[00:31:46] Unknown:

be happening. Technically, I do. I've got it. I I have a I use DSL. So   so I technically, I actually do have a   landline. It's you know?   But at the same time, now if I was to try to call somebody on there, it would be a per minute fee.  

[00:32:04] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah.  

[00:32:05] Unknown:

Because that's not what it's being used for anymore.  

[00:32:09] Duuude-Ron :

But if you're the only one in 500 miles, guess what?   It wouldn't be a per minute fee.   You'd have to call someone 500 miles away.  

[00:32:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Right. And   and who is that person that is 500 miles away?  

[00:32:24] Unknown:

Start dialing random phone numbers.  

[00:32:27] Rich Chelson:

That's right.   No. I don't need to talk to that person that fucking bad.  

[00:32:32] Duuude-Ron :

You don't know who it is.  

[00:32:36] Rich Chelson:

Well, it could be that very, very, very cute  

[00:32:40] Duuude-Ron :

whatever contour hair is. Yeah. It it very well could be.   Yeah. No. I just I I   you see, that's the thing. You know? People been talking about prepping for, oh god, for   long as I can remember.   Right. I mean, you know, especially in the nineties,   it was big then.  

[00:33:04] Unknown:

Yeah. It started taking off in the nineties.  

[00:33:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And and,   I mean, it's still it's still out there, but,   you know, a lot of people don't you see, that's the thing. A lot of people don't think,   it'll happen.  

[00:33:17] Unknown:

And No. Actually, the prepping started long before that. Oh, yeah. It started long, long Oh, yeah. Before that. But, I mean, when you started having the prepping community and the word prepping   came into the it came into the nomenclature of of today's English.  

[00:33:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It did. It didn't it didn't take,   front and center.   It didn't start taking front and center until about thirty years ago, and it's just.   And they're still trying to keep it going.  

[00:33:47] Rich Chelson:

So I I'd have to disagree with you on that. It started in the fifties with the cold war. And it was over there at shelters and  

[00:33:57] Unknown:

all that other stuff. So Yeah. That's where the level level five preparedness came into   came into play when you start having the doomsday bunkers. And  

[00:34:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.   Right. You know, would I have ever had a doomsday bunker? Well, no. I was I have no fucking clue because   I was born in '67.   So Right.   You know, I don't know.  

[00:34:21] Unknown:

I mean, would I like to? Just gotta, you know, just for shits and giggles and bragging ability? Yeah. I would love to go.   Yeah. Yeah. I've got a I've got a five forty building underneath my underneath my house right now.   The it has its own,   own,   own sewer and and,   and electrical generators. It's got it's completely shielded. It's got it actually even has its own Faraday cage wrapped around it. So no one's gonna hear anything coming in or out of it. So  

[00:34:56] Rich Chelson:

Well, I don't know if you ever if you ever saw the guy that buried   roughly   50   large school buses.  

[00:35:05] Unknown:

No. School buses  

[00:35:07] Rich Chelson:

and made that into his home.   But it was all underground.  

[00:35:13] Unknown:

I hadn't seen that one. I saw the ones where people are burying, like, Conex,   Conexes and stuff.  

[00:35:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Right.  

[00:35:23] Unknown:

No. They like to bury three or four of them down there, weld them together, and   and stuff. And it's like, well, I guess that's one way of doing it.  

[00:35:37] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean, there's   you can do it all   all kinds of ways, I guess. Oh, yeah.   But, yeah, the fifties, you know, everyone thought Russia was gonna bomb us.   You know? Yeah.   And everything.   And   and when that didn't happen in fact, actually,   actually, us as veterans   sent   hang on.   Say, dude, you can claim it. I can claim it. When did you go in, Brian?  

[00:36:09] Unknown:

Late nineties.  

[00:36:11] Duuude-Ron :

Late nineties?   Mhmm.   Okay. Hang on a second. Because, I know I know dude and I can   claim it. I mean, it's it's   you know, we don't have it on our, DD form two fourteen,   but,   we are actually part of the Cold War era.   Yeah. '91   was,  

[00:36:37] Rich Chelson:

I have I have that ribbon.  

[00:36:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See, I don't I don't I don't I don't have it. But,   but, yeah, from 1947   to 1991,   so, any soldier that would that served during that time   was actually   a cold war era   veteran.   Now it now   now it doesn't mean   really anything as far as all the other   stuff you can get,   on your,   you know, DD form two fourteen and stuff. But yeah.   Yeah. If you serve,   during those years,   then,   you can,   get that ribbon.   Yeah.   That's why   that's why I was asking Brian when you went in because I couldn't remember when you went in.  

[00:37:34] Unknown:

Yeah. I've got got that ribbon.  

[00:37:38] Duuude-Ron :

I don't have it. I know that.  

[00:37:42] Rich Chelson:

I'm pretty sure I have it. I don't fucking remember.   I'd have to dig out the book.  

[00:37:49] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:37:52] Rich Chelson:

And I'm not gonna dig out the book.  

[00:37:55] Duuude-Ron :

Not gonna do it.  

[00:37:57] Rich Chelson:

Not gonna do it.   Like I said, everything   of twenty one years of my military service,   there's one thing hanging on the wall,   and that is my shadow box   of my   class a uniform   that had all my awards on it.   And then I have my coins in there and,   you know, couple other things, but   that's the only thing that   I have up on the wall.   Everything else is in the fucking books.   And I'll never put them up never put them up on the wall either.   Now there are people that freaking have a whole room   dedicated to their freaking military service.   Oh, yeah. All   all their PCS,   freaking   all the the   the plaque thing that you get when you PCS,   you know, from each duty station. I only got two of those in my whole military career because   I could really have cared less. And where those are at,   don't fucking know.  

They're someplace   within   a box or a tote of my crap,   someplace within the confines   of the wall of walls of my house.   But where it's at, don't know, and ain't gonna go looking for it.   Somebody can do that when I'm dead.  

[00:39:35] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:39:42] Rich Chelson:

But I know what I did while I was in the military. So,   you know, I don't have to prove it to anybody.   Right.   But let's see. Let me see what you sent me there, Rich.  

[00:40:03] Duuude-Ron :

The picture of the name on my Jeep.   But, yeah, there is a ribbon.   It's,   white   with green, black.   Looks like yellow and red and then   black, green, and white on the other side.   You have to,   submit documentation   to   you know, if you don't have one, you can get it.   And it's for,   veterans,   civilian personnel   who worked for the federal government   during,   from 09/02/1945   to 12/26/1991   are eligible.  

[00:40:47] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[00:40:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. I had seen I had seen things like that here a while back   and kinda looked into it. Honestly, didn't   didn't really believe it.   You know?   But, yeah, it's it's straight up.   Yep.   But I don't I don't have any of my I mean, I do I do have my DD form two fourteen, and,   you know, I could,   you know, put all my ribbons on   or, you know, get my ribbons   Right. If I wanted, but   I probably won't do that.   It was funny. I had to go to VA today.  

[00:41:28] Unknown:

Again?   Yeah. You got a good looking nurse over there, don't you?  

[00:41:33] Duuude-Ron :

God. I wish. Well, I mean I mean, the girl that that I went and go saw today,   you know, you know, she's not bad looking.   She around our age, I'd say.   But, anyway,   I,   I had   to I had to go get an ultrasound of my carotid artery again.  

[00:41:55] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:41:55] Duuude-Ron :

And,   the the girl come and got me, and we was walking back. And she's like,   what you doing back here? We just did this last year. I said, I know.   I said I said, I don't know why I'm still here. She's like, it was clear last time.   Right?   I said I said I'm still dizzy and, you know, you know, my head still swims.   And and everything   and she's like, man, I don't I don't know why they're doing this.   I don't either.   But   whatever.   You know?   And so and and and so I laid on the table,   and   she's sitting there running through.   You know? And   she got done with the one side. She said, well, she says, I can't I can't tell you what it says.  

She says,   but it hasn't changed from last year. I'll let you read between the lines.   And then when I   when she did the other side of my neck, you know, I I was I was looking over at her screen.  

[00:43:01] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh.  

[00:43:02] Duuude-Ron :

Shit.   My freaking carat is so big. I could drive my Jeep through to some bitch   without touching the walls.   I I mean, yeah, I sit in the I'm like, I don't know why.  

[00:43:16] Unknown:

I tell them I'm dizzy and, you know, figure something. Maybe that's it. Maybe you're getting to you're you're flooding out the system.  

[00:43:24] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:43:27] Unknown:

Got too big of a fuel on it, man.  

[00:43:30] Duuude-Ron :

Good big. You know what I mean? Ship. Chip. Put in a restrictor plate.  

[00:43:35] Unknown:

You know?  

[00:43:37] Duuude-Ron :

Slow me down there, NASCAR.   But, yeah, I don't know. I just,   Yeah. So, I mean, I went and did it. I'm I'm a claim travel pay for it because I get travel pay. So   that's another $17   and some change. So alright. I'll take it.  

[00:43:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, if   is it,   more deaths than what you used?  

[00:44:05] Duuude-Ron :

No.   No.   No. I use I use maybe a quarter tank.  

[00:44:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So like I'm saying is is   you're getting reimbursed   more than it would have cost you for fuel.  

[00:44:20] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:44:22] Rich Chelson:

There you go.   Yeah. I'm not And we got at least you get some fuel.  

[00:44:27] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Hey, guys. I don't I don't bitch too much. You know? I'll tell you. Yeah.  

[00:44:33] Rich Chelson:

That's fine.  

[00:44:36] Duuude-Ron :

So yeah. And I got home, and and   my chair was here.  

[00:44:42] Unknown:

Oh, well, your your piano.  

[00:44:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.   Oh my god.   And I was glad because normally   normally, my mail doesn't show up till, like, 04:35,   five thirty six, whatever.   But it was sitting on my porch today, and I was like, hell, yeah.   I got that bitch.   I freaking got that bitch put together.   Oh, lord, have mercy.  

[00:45:10] Unknown:

So the whole all day today, everybody was walking past Rich's house here.   No.  

[00:45:24] Rich Chelson:

He was probably playing chopsticks.  

[00:45:29] Duuude-Ron :

No. I've been I've been I've been working on my songs,   trying to get,   better than Proven his repertoire.   But, but yeah. No. That that chair with that backrest,   oh, goddamn.   That's that's what the doctor ordered right there.   I'm serious. I can because, I can you know, once I got it done, I set it up,   and I sat in a chair, and it's   and,   it's   I don't   when I sit, you know, my back starts hurting.  

[00:46:03] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:46:04] Duuude-Ron :

I just I just lean back just a little bit against that backrest,   and, oh, man, it I can I can get my back to   release just a little bit? I might have stopped playing for a minute   and just let my back, you know, and   then and then I can start playing again. So   so, yeah, I was I was very happy to get that chair.  

[00:46:28] Unknown:

Good.  

[00:46:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Very happy. Does it look like a Harley Davidson?  

[00:46:34] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. I don't have handlebars on it, dude.  

[00:46:37] Rich Chelson:

No. I'm talking about the backrest. Does it look like it, Harley Davidson?  

[00:46:42] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. No.   No. It's just it's just a regular little old backrest,   like,   on an office chair.  

[00:46:53] Rich Chelson:

Nothing fancy. Oh, I did.   But, yeah, we wouldn't wanna have we wouldn't wanna have anything fancy.  

[00:47:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, god. No. I wouldn't know how to act, man.   But, no, it just it just   it it's it's, firm enough. So,   you know,   when I'm hurting, I can lean back and just and just you know? And it don't flex. I love that. It's rigid   because   this stuff's made out of,   tubing,   metal tubing.  

[00:47:30] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[00:47:31] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, it's it's solid.   I'm like, oh, yes.   Oh, this was so nice. Oh,   and I made something for dinner. Oh my god.   I'm shocked I'm not four hundred pounds.   I took them sausage patties.  

[00:47:48] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:47:50] Duuude-Ron :

Y'all   y'all freaking out to try this. Shit's awesome.   I took them sausage patties, put them in a in a cupcake tin,   and then,  

[00:48:00] Unknown:

Add a smack to it?  

[00:48:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I added egg, onion, cheese, and then threw it in the oven   for,   well, spices too, but threw it in the oven for thirty minutes on three fifty.   And   while those are cooking,   I threw some biscuits in there   and   cooked them up. Oh my god.   I gotta fill in tomorrow. I'm I'm fixing to make me some sausage gravy,   and   I'm a throw that shit all over it.   I'm eating like a cake.   This shit is the bomb.   And it took,   what, not even ten minutes to make to mix up.   Oh, yeah? You know? Oh, yeah.   Fold it out.   That's, what I had for dinner tonight.   Mhmm.  

Yeah. Throw it all throw it all in a cupcake tin,   and then,   you know, fill   the fill the cut you know, fill the cupcake tins   with the egg, you know, over the sausage and then throw in veggies if you want, cheese and   your spices,   you know, if you want any. I'll put garlic powder and onion powder on it and pepper, of course.   And,   just, yeah, just go in the oven, cook it up.   I only ate. Well, see I see, the pack I had   had eight of them in it, and I only ate three of them. So   I've got I've got five more yet to go.   I can't eat much anymore. So  

[00:49:43] Rich Chelson:

But you can't eat any less, though, either. Right?  

[00:49:48] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. I can I can eat less? Trust me.   Kinda shocks me   because I'm so I'm so,   you know, I'm used to   eating a lot, but,   you know,   I don't know. It's just it's just weird.   I don't eat as much as   I used to.  

[00:50:11] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that's good.  

[00:50:13] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[00:50:14] Rich Chelson:

I just need to get up on the treadmill and run about two miles a day.  

[00:50:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's not gonna happen,   I can I can promise you that is not gonna happen?  

[00:50:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because we know there's only one thing you run.  

[00:50:34] Duuude-Ron :

My mouth.  

[00:50:35] Rich Chelson:

Your mouth?  

[00:50:36] Duuude-Ron :

That's right.  

[00:50:38] Rich Chelson:

And we know your jaw muscles are are   they are ripped.   Right.   Right. Now the rectum muscles, on the other hand,  

[00:50:50] Duuude-Ron :

well Not not so much.  

[00:50:53] Unknown:

Not so much?   Right.  

[00:50:56] Rich Chelson:

Not so much.  

[00:51:02] Duuude-Ron :

No.   So, yeah, that was actually,   my thing for the day.   Yeah. Other than that, I don't I don't think I did too much.  

[00:51:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I just had to go to Abilene today.  

[00:51:24] Unknown:

Abby Abby Abby something.  

[00:51:26] Rich Chelson:

Abilene. Yeah.   So that was a real fun drive as usual.   And maybe   maybe in the next five years,   they'll have that stretch   on 36   North Of Hamilton   completed.  

[00:51:48] Unknown:

Oh, no. No. No. No. That's not allowed to happen.  

[00:51:52] Duuude-Ron :

No.   That is so much common sense, dude.  

[00:51:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And they've had   I don't get it. It's on a whole different part of what they're currently working on   that there's,   you know, a passing   lane area,   and they fucking got the cones in the other lane, and you can't even fucking use it, and they ain't even working.   It's done.   It's completed.  

[00:52:20] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:52:21] Rich Chelson:

So why the fuck don't they pick up the goddamn   cones?  

[00:52:26] Unknown:

Oh, because   then they wouldn't be able to,   to say that they're doing construction.  

[00:52:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:52:39] Duuude-Ron :

They would have to give back some of that government money they got. Exactly.  

[00:52:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Well, we'll see if it fucking even gets completed within the next, you know, fucking couple years.   That's working on it's always been working on for, what, three years now?  

[00:52:58] Unknown:

Oh, if that. Yeah.   Pretty close to that, if not more.  

[00:53:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   And, of course, they had it down to one lane for   with a pilot car with the   length of about   three miles.   Oh, yeah. And they're working and they're working on a fucking bridge.   Yeah.  

[00:53:24] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   I know   you know people in Texas take a little longer   to read a sign and have it comprehend. So you know?  

[00:53:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. You're right.   Because they shoot from the fucking far left lane all the way over to the fucking exit.  

[00:53:44] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:53:46] Rich Chelson:

500 meters   before the exit because they don't know how to fucking read the damn signs.   Oh, I wanted to get off there. Yum.   Yeah.   Dumb   fucking people.  

[00:53:59] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I see that happen down here once in a while.   Not too often, but once in a while.  

[00:54:05] Rich Chelson:

You know, I would really hate to live   in Dallas, Fort Worth area, or even Houston   or Austin and have to fucking deal with that traffic   every day.   Yeah. I deal with it enough. It's a little rough. Yeah.   Yeah. Fucking dealing with that shit every day,   I would have to get one of those old steam train,   cattle,   you know, with the cattle ramps or whatever the fuck they call it that was on the front of the,   trains.   Oh, yeah. You want get one of those on my Cattle guard.   Yeah. Get one of those on my Jeep.   Cut me off? Yeah. Get the fuck out of my way. I'll just move your ass.  

[00:54:54] Unknown:

Oh, no. No. Stay stay stay stay in the way. We'll we'll don't worry about me. I'll get you. I'll I'll I'll help move you. Yeah. You wouldn't you wouldn't Mad Max here, dude.  

[00:55:05] Duuude-Ron :

You ever seen that movie Mad Max? Oh, hell yeah. Oh, yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. The front of that big rig?   Yep.   Oh, yeah.   That'd be the way to have it right there.  

[00:55:22] Rich Chelson:

You know, like, what Gallagher once said,   it's like,   we should legalize   broomsticks.   Or what? In be in between two cars   so the fucking motorcyclist   can't fucking split lanes,   and a motorcycle just fucking   go right between the two lanes of stop and stop because that'll take you yep. Just   go right by everybody.   They need to legalize   broomstick handles.  

[00:55:56] Duuude-Ron :

But the thing is, though,   does a motorcycle   hold you up?  

[00:56:03] Rich Chelson:

Sometimes.  

[00:56:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Some yeah. Sometimes they do,   but not always. Nine times out of 10,   I ain't a motorcycle   not holding anybody up.  

[00:56:15] Rich Chelson:

Well, well, yeah, most of most of the time, they know motorcycle holding up traffic. That is for sure.   You know? But I think it's just be fucking hilarious.   They don't see that stick and fucking   your bike continues on down the road, and and they're fucking,   you know, laying on the ground from the   getting throat punched with a stick.   I just think it would be fucking hilarious.  

[00:56:50] Duuude-Ron :

That that would hurt.   That'd give me a headache.  

[00:56:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, I get I guarantee you that person wouldn't be fucking splitting lanes anymore.   You know, if I gotta wait there, motherfucker, you need to wait.   Don't think that you're fucking special,   but they do.  

[00:57:11] Unknown:

That's okay. Fuck them. Well, they are. They're just two wheels instead of four wheels.  

[00:57:17] Rich Chelson:

And don't we just fucking hate four wheelers when we're fucking   in the truck that has 18?  

[00:57:24] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:57:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It wasn't so bad when we didn't have our cameras.   Now now it's a fucking now it's a goddamn nightmare.  

[00:57:37] Duuude-Ron :

Well, see, that's where   everybody ought to just rip them out,   throw them on the side of the road, drive over them, and say, I don't know what happened.  

[00:57:47] Unknown:

I don't know. All of a sudden, everything just cut up and   dumped out.   Weirdest damn thing I've ever seen in my life.   Yeah.  

[00:57:56] Duuude-Ron :

Well, see, the thing is the simple thing is is   is like on the inside cameras,   just you know, when you're on the other side of the vehicle, just reach up kinda and spray paint it.   Spray paint the lens so it can't see and then rip it out   and then drive over it.   It'll still show it's sitting at that one location. And when they go look at it, well, they don't know if you did it or if anybody did it. You know? They don't know.   See?   Yeah.  

[00:58:28] Rich Chelson:

I got Good idea. Bad concept.   I I still I still need to fucking work because I the bill man's still coming.   That motherfucker's gonna kick kick me in the ass tomorrow   as usual.  

[00:58:44] Duuude-Ron :

I'm not say I'm not say I'm not saying don't work. Just, you know, you wouldn't have a camera to worry about.  

[00:58:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:58:53] Duuude-Ron :

And if it happened to be gone before you got to work, then,   you know, honestly, who who   you couldn't be blamed.   You see what I mean?   See, that's the thing. Cameras have have screwed everything   up. Yep.   Big big brother   started something years ago,   and now everybody's   watching you   all the way down to the cameras and   shit on our phones.   You know?  

[00:59:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Stary, isn't it?  

[00:59:29] Duuude-Ron :

Kinda. Yeah.   Because you can't walk up and smack a motherfucker.  

[00:59:39] Unknown:

I mean, more.  

[00:59:41] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   I mean I mean, back in the day, I mean, shit. We'd have a whole,   fist fighting.  

[00:59:48] Unknown:

Call it good. No proof of it.  

[00:59:50] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   Now,   shit. You have a fist fighting.   There's counselors involved, cops involved, lawyers, judges.   You know? They get all kinds of stupid.  

[01:00:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I   know. Because this this Sue   Happy   Nation.  

[01:00:10] Unknown:

Yeah. And I don't even know who Sue is.   I don't know why everyone's happy about her.  

[01:00:16] Rich Chelson:

Oh,  

[01:00:17] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. I don't know a Sue. Yeah. You're right. I don't know a Sue.  

[01:00:21] Unknown:

I used to I know a Sue. I I was gonna say, well, I know a Sue, and she's a fucking twat and a half.  

[01:00:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:00:30] Unknown:

I'm actually she's one of those few that I'm actually   counting down the days when I pay I've got her   her name on a Google Alerts. And the moment I hear that she has passed and I find out when the funeral is, I'm gonna be keeping an eyeball peeled on the,   on the,   on the cemetery. And when I see her headstone, I'm gonna   lay a great big old Stanley steamer on her freaking   headstone.  

[01:01:00] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:01:00] Unknown:

Yeah. So   You gonna wait that long just to do that? Oh, hell yeah. I may be 85 years old, but, goddamn, I'm gonna do it.   Okay.  

[01:01:15] Rich Chelson:

Nothing like holding a grudge.  

[01:01:18] Unknown:

It's the only grudge I would care to hold.   And it's just funny because she I'm sure she probably doesn't even doesn't even   know about it anymore. I'm sure she knows why. Well, I know she knows why. So  

[01:01:33] Duuude-Ron :

But that's the thing. Does she care,  

[01:01:35] Unknown:

obviously? That, I don't know.   I mean, holding a grudge   has been said is, you know, drinking poison in hopes that the per that the other person dies.   So, I mean,   it doesn't serve anything except   by damn it.   I I find it fun to hold that grudge on for a while, though.  

[01:01:57] Rich Chelson:

Well, not only that, it keeps you nice and warm and fuzzy inside. All that energy Oh, yeah. You're producing, you know, keeps you warm warm inside.  

[01:02:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:02:09] Rich Chelson:

Especially on a cold day   without  

[01:02:13] Duuude-Ron :

a   doubt.   Yeah. I'd   I I don't know. I don't like holding grudges. I just I just walk away and don't and and don't speak to people no more.   It's just not worth my time.  

[01:02:27] Unknown:

No. It's not normally.   No. I no. No. I'm saying for me, it's it's it's Oh, no. I know. It's not. It's not worth anybody's time, really.   But at the same time, it's real fun.   There there is an entertainment level to it. So  

[01:02:42] Duuude-Ron :

If you say so, because   I used to hold grudges and ass. Like, you know what? They don't give a fuck what I think. So   Yeah. Alright. Well,   I'm   I'm gonna go   do what I wanna do. I just I just won't ever talk to him again.   Right.   So   that's just I mean,   I don't know. I'm weird like that, I guess.   Yeah. Other than that,   I'm not sure what I'm gonna do tomorrow yet. Haven't figured that one that one out quite yet.  

[01:03:20] Rich Chelson:

Maybe you need to do another painting.  

[01:03:24] Duuude-Ron :

I'm waiting on you to get here, dude.  

[01:03:27] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Gotcha.  

[01:03:31] Duuude-Ron :

You get here and   you know?   We'll we'll see we'll see we'll see what kind of masterpiece you make.   Okay.   You know?  

[01:03:44] Rich Chelson:

They'll wanna try look like I they'll probably look like a turd to hit the wall from the van.  

[01:03:53] Duuude-Ron :

No. I'll be there to help you mix the colors so   so you don't get,   you know, a a big old brown splotch in the middle of,   you know, yellow.  

[01:04:07] Unknown:

Yeah. We don't want brown in the middle of the yellow.  

[01:04:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. Don't and, you don't wanna do that. It don't look pretty.  

[01:04:17] Rich Chelson:

Well,   it matches my,   my physique, I guess.  

[01:04:27] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, lord.   Now I might I might I'm gonna try and   maybe play,   radio tomorrow.  

[01:04:37] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:04:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See if,   say, hey.   I don't know. It   last night, when when we jumped off the vet call last night, there was   there was a couple signals on,   but, I mean,   nothing much. And for some reason right now, I can't stay up late enough   to,   see if Europe is opening up   because I get too tired.   And that's the thing. When I lay down and go to bed,   my ass is out.   Right. So so by the time I get up, it's   it's already, what, early afternoon, mid afternoon in in Europe.   Yeah.   So   you'll see us thing like like, early in the morning,   when it's still dark over here, early in the morning over in Europe when signals,   open up quite a bit,   that's called running a gray line.  

Because   when when darkness and sunlight   are separated,   there's a gray line area.   And,   if you catch that just straight,   you can make some,   really good DX contacts   that way   by running the gray line.  

[01:06:08] Rich Chelson:

Oh, the military   has an acronym for it, and what is it?  

[01:06:15] Duuude-Ron :

Hell, if I know.  

[01:06:17] Unknown:

Exactly. How'd you know that?  

[01:06:20] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   E e n t and b m n t.   E e n t   and b m n t.   Yeah.   And evening, nautical twilight,   and before morning, nautical twilight.   You ever heard those while you're in the military?  

[01:06:46] Duuude-Ron :

No. And and I was e and, yeah, really. And and I was even I was even attached to a signal battalion.   I was a first duty station, and they they had never used that.   Or at least, I well, I don't know if they did. I never heard it   because I knew I knew just about all of the,   you know, radio guys in my company,   Guys and or girls.   Oh, okay. Did have females.  

[01:07:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:07:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I had never   I had never heard of that.  

[01:07:25] Rich Chelson:

And it's not just a military thing either.   Yeah. But   the light   that's still there after the sun goes   over the horizon until it's completely dark is   end evening   nautical twilight.   Okay.   What you call the gray line.   Same way as the  

[01:07:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. The gray line. Yeah. Yep.   Yeah. I just I had always I had always heard of it called,   the gray line.  

[01:07:57] Rich Chelson:

Oh.  

[01:07:58] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[01:08:01] Rich Chelson:

So Well, potato, potato.  

[01:08:05] Duuude-Ron :

Hey. Hey. I'm I learned something new the way I look at it.  

[01:08:08] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Well, and   And since I was with the infantry most all of my career,   that was, you know, part of stand two and all that other stuff. So  

[01:08:22] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:08:27] Rich Chelson:

But I'm sure it's even on   your   weather thing   or your meteorology,   setup.  

[01:08:37] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I mean   well, I   mean, you know, some of the sites I look at, you know you know   yeah. We have nautical twilight.   You know, I, you know, I see the different times, and it'll say nautical twilight, but that's it.  

[01:08:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah, one's one's morning and one's evening is but it's still nautical twilight.   Yeah.  

[01:09:00] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:09:02] Rich Chelson:

So as long as you learn something new today, I guess today was well worth it. Right?  

[01:09:09] Duuude-Ron :

It was.   It was. Oh, good.   So you say GI Joe.   What?  

[01:09:17] Unknown:

Dude,   where do you know? GI Joe. Come on.   Pop two, man.  

[01:09:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Where the hell you been, Rich?  

[01:09:29] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, my lord. Come on now.  

[01:09:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh, Brian. And knowing What?   And knowing   is what time?  

[01:09:37] Unknown:

Is half the battle. GI   Joe.   Exactly.   See?  

[01:09:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my gosh. That's funny.  

[01:09:49] Rich Chelson:

That's funny. I think there's a couple I think there's a couple things that was Rich was left out in life with.  

[01:09:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. He kinda  

[01:09:59] Duuude-Ron :

I lived a sheltered life, believe me. Apparently, good grief, man.  

[01:10:03] Rich Chelson:

No. You didn't because you fucking know all the Looney Tune car cartoons.  

[01:10:09] Duuude-Ron :

Parents were asleep.   They couldn't control the TV at that time.   After they got up, no. That was it. Get your ass outside,   and they took over the TV.  

[01:10:25] Rich Chelson:

Well, we always got to do the cartoons.   I always got to watch some Looney Tunes.  

[01:10:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. We were up at, like, five, 05:30 in the morning waiting on the cartoons, and   we could watch them till about eight   when,   mom and dad got up, and then, yeah, that was it. We were done.   So   Wow. Yeah.   And then we were outside the rest of the time   and could not come back in the house for nothing. Oh my god. No. You were not allowed in that house.   No,   sir.   Yeah. If it, yeah, if it wasn't raining, yes. It was outside.  

[01:11:05] Unknown:

Oh, you got to come in during the rain?  

[01:11:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We did.   But we had to be freaking quiet.   Yep.   We had to be seen and not heard.  

[01:11:21] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:11:23] Duuude-Ron :

Believe that.  

[01:11:25] Rich Chelson:

So Yeah. That's about how life goes.   That was that was a big,   big, huge saying in the fucking, what, fifties and sixties,   seen and not heard.  

[01:11:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Try seventies and eighties in my house.  

[01:11:41] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:11:42] Duuude-Ron :

It just lasted. Yeah.  

[01:11:46] Rich Chelson:

It just carried over.  

[01:11:48] Duuude-Ron :

Right? Did.  

[01:11:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:11:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   So, yeah, that's why that's why yeah. Some of these references, yeah, I'm lost on. I   I I don't know a lot of them.  

[01:12:05] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's alright. We'll eventually ed we'll eventually edumacate you.  

[01:12:10] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:12:12] Rich Chelson:

Now we don't know what you need to be edumacated about   until you don't know.   Then you don't know what you don't know until   you know it   because you didn't know it   before.  

[01:12:29] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Well, there's there are probably quite a few things. I I ain't gonna lie.   There's   there's probably quite a few things that that I was not allowed to,   know about.   Hell, I couldn't I couldn't listen to rock and roll   until say   say, where we at?   Say I was I think I was in eighth grade, and I had to go in. I I couldn't have I couldn't have radio   myself. I I I had a small AM radio,   that I would listen to the ball games on.   I'd get Kansas City at night or Saint Louis. I didn't I could get it's funny. I lived closer to Saint Louis, but I could get Kansas City station better.   And I would I would,   fall asleep to the royals or the cardinals playing, but I couldn't listen to rock and roll music unless   I,   went into my mom's room   and   listened to the clock radio, and I had to ask permission for that.  

And I'd get maybe half an hour or an hour. Yeah.   Mhmm.  

[01:13:44] Rich Chelson:

I know.  

[01:13:47] Duuude-Ron :

I I I'm not lying. It's it's straight up. So what so what music played? Country?   Or   Yeah.   Yeah. If music was played, it was country.   Which, I mean, I was fine with that too, but, you know, I was, you know, young kid. It's like it's like, I want rock and roll, man.   You know? And, you know, this was   late seventies, early eighties. You know? It was a good music era.   But yeah. No. I had to ask permission.  

[01:14:21] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[01:14:23] Unknown:

And, I mean, some  

[01:14:24] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. Most of the time, you know, I got to listen to it, but not always.   I didn't get,   we'll see. And   I   was   we were I was a freshman in high school,   when I got my own record player.   And we got this was '83. We got that was the year, Thriller came out.   We wore   we wore that vinyl down, dude.   We freaking played that over and over so much. It was unreal.  

[01:15:09] Unknown:

I bet.   Yeah. And, hell, that was damn good. That was a damn good vinyl too. Oh, it was. It was.  

[01:15:16] Duuude-Ron :

But   but, yeah,   Yeah. I didn't get my   first AMFM cassette   radio player until,   I think, I was in tenth grade.   Hey. So,   yeah,   so, yeah, when I say I live, I I lived a sheltered life. I really did.   That's why that's why I've been Is that sheltered or depraved?   A bolt?  

[01:15:47] Unknown:

I mean You were neglected, man.   Right?  

[01:15:52] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. No. There's, yeah, there was there's a lot of things that,   we couldn't do.   Lot of things.   So   Oh.   I just got used to them. And then, you know, when I got old   you know, when I got older, I I just really   I didn't think about it, you know, because it's not something   that I was,   I was exposed to as a gift.  

[01:16:24] Rich Chelson:

So And accustomed to.  

[01:16:27] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   And so, yeah, I didn't I didn't, you know, I didn't think about it.   So alright. Whatever.   But, yeah, it's funny when when, like, you guys bring some up. I'm like, yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. You're like, what the hell?  

[01:16:41] Unknown:

Well, that's when we need to go off and start to need to have   rich movie days.  

[01:16:50] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. I've been I've been   I did this about four or five years ago, I think,   if I remember right, but I'm doing it again because,   the other day, this was, I don't know, last week or something.   I flipped on the TV, and I was like, well, let me see what's on Disney Plus.   I I hadn't checked out Disney Plus in a while.   And they had MASH,   the full eleven seasons. Yeah.   I'm like,   guess what I'm watching?  

[01:17:22] Unknown:

Oh god, man. That was such a boring television show when I was growing up.   Oh, man. I was like I heard that. Fuck. Yeah, man. Funny thing is funny thing is, do you know what,   what the title song of MASH is actually called?  

[01:17:39] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[01:17:42] Unknown:

It is suicide   is painless, I think. Let me double check that. Yep. Yeah. No. That's it.  

[01:17:50] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:17:52] Unknown:

Just   suicide   is painless.   It's just it's a dark song in all reality. Really?  

[01:18:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay. That's correct.  

[01:18:04] Unknown:

I mean, it was just one of those where I first came across because I it's like I was because I've been going through and looking up, you know, theme songs to   to eighties   television shows, seventies and eighties television shows.   So I've got, like,   what is it? Angelica   from,   what's his name? James.  

[01:18:31] Duuude-Ron :

What is  

[01:18:33] Rich Chelson:

it?  

[01:18:35] Duuude-Ron :

Alive. Famous singer?  

[01:18:37] Unknown:

No. He's not a famous singer. He's a famous he's a fairly well known   jazz musician.   But,   let's see here.  

[01:18:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Either way, I had to start watching MASH.  

[01:18:51] Unknown:

Bob James. Bob James. That's his name. And,   Angela   is the theme song   to Taxi.   Okay? K. So I've been going through there finding you know, I've got,   got, like,   thank you for being a friend, which is from Golden Girls, except I've got the original version.   So some guy   staying in. So   Okay. Yeah. It's not,   but it I mean, just different songs like that. And one of the ones that I came across, I was, like, going, well, what's what's MASH? Let's look it up, and it's actually got lyrics and everything else. And that's like,   suicide is painless.  

Yeah. That was really thinking they were really thinking or trying to make a statement.   What  

[01:19:43] Rich Chelson:

what what you And, actually, that that played   in the original MASH movie   when one of the guys was trying to  

[01:19:54] Unknown:

well, they were See, I've never watched the movie. Yeah.  

[01:19:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They played Oh, you never watched the movie.  

[01:20:01] Rich Chelson:

Uh-uh. So when the guy was trying to do suicide.  

[01:20:07] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:20:09] Rich Chelson:

Now did you know that there are words   to taps?  

[01:20:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.   No. I didn't know that. Yeah. There is. I didn't know that. I don't know what they are, but, yes, I do know there's   words to tabs.  

[01:20:24] Rich Chelson:

Oh. Well, and I were I only remember the last three words,   which is god is great. That's the last three words   in the song of taps.   But now what the rest of the words are? No. I don't know that either. Well, let's  

[01:20:43] Unknown:

now if we only had some means looking up all the lyrics of all the songs of of every century  

[01:20:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We don't have that, man. You know, we're we're back in the stone ages. You know?  

[01:20:57] Unknown:

Yeah. Remember,   there's only one person   well, I'm the only person within 500 miles of, of anybody else here.  

[01:21:05] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   But yeah. No. I I saw I saw Disney plus had MASH, and so, yeah, I've been I've been I've been watching,   rewatching   MASH, and I'm a watch all eleven seasons.  

[01:21:18] Unknown:

So Get old Alden Alda.   Oh, I see. Realized he was a whacked out liberal.   Oh, no. Yeah. I no. You can spot it real easy. Oh, no. You you can. But but when I was growing up, that that wasn't something that was in my   in my wheelhouse to look for. And then Right. But all of a sudden, hearing his talks. It's like, what? See see, though, the thing is, though,  

[01:21:43] Duuude-Ron :

okay,  

[01:21:45] Unknown:

he's not  

[01:21:47] Duuude-Ron :

he has liberal views. Yes. But,   and and he's you know, he would voice his opinion. Okay.   But yet   he wasn't gonna   hold you down by the neck and make you   make you,   you know, accept it.  

[01:22:04] Unknown:

Uh-huh.   That would be questionable as to the as to his actions today, though.   Well, he's, like, 90 years old today. Well, yeah, he is kind of crotchety.  

[01:22:17] Duuude-Ron :

You know? So, I mean and and that's the thing. Yes. Watson, I am I know. I was moving.  

[01:22:22] Unknown:

Holy smokes. Stood up and walk around, and he was just following me around going, hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Where are you going? Where are you going? Where are you going?   Stop barking.  

[01:22:32] Duuude-Ron :

See, the thing is,   I I would not Alda   wasn't like Roseanne Barr or any of the others saying, oh, if Trump gets elected, I'm moving to another country.   Damn. He wasn't doing that. You know?  

[01:22:46] Rich Chelson:

That'll be, personally, I didn't even know he was a liberal.  

[01:22:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. NPR.  

[01:22:53] Unknown:

The worst of taps. Well, we can thank actual National Public Radio for something.   So   the day is done.   The god gone the sun from the hills, from the lake, from the skies.   All is well. Safety rest. God is nigh.   Go to sleep. Peaceful sleep. May the soldier or the sailor,   god keep on the land or the deep safe to sleep.   Love good night. Must thou go when the day and the night   meet thee so. All is well be the thaw To the rest, fades the light, and and afar goeth day,   and the stars shineth bright. Fare thee well. Day is gone. Night is on.   Praise, thanks and praise for our days, neath the sun, neath the stars, neath the sky, and we go.  

This we know, God is nigh.   So yeah.  

[01:23:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I knew I knew I knew I knew there was words to it. I just  

[01:23:59] Unknown:

I would never guess that one.  

[01:24:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. No. You can see in, MASH that that, you know, Alan Alda,   you know, was, you know, was a Democrat.   You can   tell. But   he does it with humor, so   so most people don't think that's how he is, but, no, that's   that's how he is. Yeah. But  

[01:24:24] Unknown:

he's kinda like,   oh, what's his name? Bill Maher.   You know Bill Maher? Is that is no. Actually, he's gotten around where I mean, the the left has gotten so so stupid   now,   and   Bill Maher really hasn't changed much.   So the left actually opened themselves up to ridicule from Bill Maher, and so Bill Maher has been doing it. And Yeah. Right. No. And that's fine. I just I've I've just never liked Bill Maher.  

[01:24:55] Duuude-Ron :

Just never really have have,   you know, cared for his his style of   talk or whatever. Right.   You know, that's I mean, that's just me. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or anything. I just Right.   I just it's like, you know what?   Y'all can have your own thing.  

[01:25:17] Rich Chelson:

I agree with you on that, Rich. You know, I know he's out there, but I ain't gonna watch him or listen to him.  

[01:25:24] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's like that's like Stephen Colbert.  

[01:25:27] Unknown:

Now I can't stand him. I'm not a fan. I'm a fan of him either.  

[01:25:30] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. I can't I can't stand him for nothing.  

[01:25:35] Rich Chelson:

I am. I will kill him well.  

[01:25:38] Duuude-Ron :

I wouldn't waste your time, dude.   Oh, okay. You can if you want, but, yeah, I wouldn't waste your time.  

[01:25:47] Rich Chelson:

Well, then I probably won't.  

[01:25:50] Duuude-Ron :

Because, yeah, he's   he's a liberal hack   is what he is.  

[01:25:55] Unknown:

Hey. An actual yeah.   By every extent of the word.  

[01:26:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yes.   I'm not I'm not arguing that point at all.   Yeah. My, my brother,   love listening to him. And and I tried to listen to him once or twice, and I as I couldn't do it, I'm like, nope. I'm out.   So  

[01:26:21] Rich Chelson:

Well, hopefully, you guys won't have to fly any place anytime soon if you don't have a star in your, driver's license.  

[01:26:27] Duuude-Ron :

I can fly anywhere I want, dude. Oh, that's right.   I got a passport. I also have the star too, so   it don't matter.   I Yeah. You know, I I don't get I don't get why I don't get why people are bitching about it.  

[01:26:42] Rich Chelson:

You know? Neither do I.  

[01:26:45] Duuude-Ron :

I mean,   the difference between   those licenses   is an extra piece of mayo saying that you are who you are.   Yeah. Oh, I know. It's that's it. There's no more privileges.   You know?  

[01:27:04] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, I And they asked   me   when they started it.   When I renewed my license, it's like,   you want this to be a real I or a real ID? I'm like,  

[01:27:18] Unknown:

okay. How about extra is it?  

[01:27:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   That's saying it don't cost any extra. Yeah. It does.   No. It doesn't. Yeah. It does.  

[01:27:30] Unknown:

Real IDs are like an extra $75.  

[01:27:34] Duuude-Ron :

No. I like that. Move then, dude,   because   I've gotten real IDs from a couple different states, and it don't cost any more.  

[01:27:44] Unknown:

It's   they were they're charging more for  

[01:27:48] Duuude-Ron :

No. You need to move, dude, because   I   when I went to Missouri,   I didn't have a real ID.   And,   I had to get a new license. They asked me if I wanted one, and they're like, it don't cost anymore.   Alright.   What you need? And she's like, I got everything in here already. I'll just make it a real ID. Okay.   No. It no. It doesn't cost anymore. If it does, the state's scamming   you. And down here in Mississippi,   didn't cost no extra.  

[01:28:23] Rich Chelson:

Nope. Same way with Texas.   Yep.  

[01:28:26] Unknown:

So Yep. Well, it's, first issuance of a real ID is $42 and 58, 50¢,   30 30 8 50 for renewals, and $25   for replacements.  

[01:28:39] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:28:40] Unknown:

And,   see, of course, I'm not that's just a regular driver's license. That's not the CDL.  

[01:28:49] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. CDL is is is not even in the same category, dude, because not everybody can get one.  

[01:28:56] Unknown:

Oh, wow. You're gonna need a real ID in our nuclear power plants. Well, that come on. I do that every other day now.  

[01:29:02] Rich Chelson:

Damn it.   Guess you can't go to work? Nope. No worky now.   No worky.  

[01:29:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I say I say I say I say if your state's charging you extra for Real ID, you need to move.  

[01:29:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Well Nice. I don't know what other states do. I know Texas, though.   Again, it was just, you know, they added the star to the driver's license, and then   when I renew my driver's license,   it cost me the same.  

[01:29:39] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[01:29:41] Rich Chelson:

That's it.   The only thing that cost me extra is the,   hazmat every five years.  

[01:29:48] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:29:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But   say again, that's a CDL versus a regular driver's license.   Yeah. You know? So   but, yeah, regular driver's license? Yeah. No.  

[01:30:04] Rich Chelson:

No. I don't remember what   a regular driver's license   costed me anymore.   But every four   four years, I think I pay 70   shit. I don't   know. $70 for my license. I don't know.  

[01:30:24] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know what I paid for mine in Mississippi.   I forget. It wasn't much.  

[01:30:33] Rich Chelson:

Well, I go in there and pay it and   go on with my merry way because   it's irrelevant.   Right. And a friend a friend of mine   traded in his old JK   because it had   bad death wobble. We tried to fix it, but   never really could figure it out. And he got a   Gladiator   with 35 inch tires.   It was already on the other lift,   something like that. I guess he had to go up to Dallas for something,   and he was bitching about the   the cost of gas for because of the gas mileage   that he's getting on the Gladiator. And he asked me,   do you ever   do you know what your gas mileage is? I'm like,   no. I don't really care.  

I bought the Jeep because I wanted it. I don't give a shit what gas mileage it gets. When the needle goes down to a quarter, I go to the gas station, I fill it the fuck up.   I don't know what my mileage rate is.   I run 37 inch tires.   I have no clue.   Right? It gets me from point a to point b,   and it's a Jeep.  

[01:31:58] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's the main thing.   Well, it's a Jeep.   Other than that,  

[01:32:05] Rich Chelson:

irrelevant.  

[01:32:07] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:32:10] Rich Chelson:

So, Brian   Yo.   Are you gonna go home every night  

[01:32:17] Unknown:

from home?   Oh, no. No. No. That's an hour drive.  

[01:32:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:32:22] Unknown:

And my car is is   is is limp dick as it is. So   Uh-huh.   So I no. They, they all they give you a a hotel room. So  

[01:32:37] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:32:41] Unknown:

So I take them up on the offer.  

[01:32:44] Rich Chelson:

Well, there you go.   Do you get a stipend for food?  

[01:32:52] Unknown:

I believe   so.  

[01:32:55] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's good.  

[01:32:58] Unknown:

I would have to look it up again   to exactly,  

[01:33:02] Rich Chelson:

but I believe I believe I do. Yeah.   Well, something something is better than nothing. Oh, yeah.  

[01:33:11] Duuude-Ron :

I would think you would since you're away from home,   but   not always.   You know?   Right.  

[01:33:23] Rich Chelson:

Now do you have to turn in your receipts?  

[01:33:26] Unknown:

Yep. Yeah. Well, they on Samsera,   when you yep. I   I don't know why they do it this way. This is one of the aggravating things about the way they do stuff. But,   the   the fuel,   I can I I just use the   the fuel card,   get the fuel? When I get after I get the fuel, I have to take the receipt.   And on Samsara, there is a documents tab button. You hit the documents,   choose fuel receipt, and you take a picture of the fuel receipt. You put all the information that's on the fuel receipt in the phone also. So I don't know why you have to have a fuel receipt. And if you're gonna enter all the information in or or why you gotta put all the information in if you've already got a receipt, But, you know,   it's policy is policy.  

Right.   So but then because it's a 02/2003,   Kenworth, it's gotta be used DEF. So   they don't   want you to use DEF out of the bulk tanks   because they think that,   I don't know. I guess back when they first were   using DEF, I guess they had a big issue of   getting low quality DEF and DEF crystalizing and stuff inside the tank, and so they were putting shitty DEF into the into their into their DEF tanks on the truck.   And so now you actually have to go and buy the boxes   of death,   which okay. I can put two and a half gallons of hold up real quick. I'll fix this.   At you.  



[01:35:10] Rich Chelson:

Fine.  

[01:35:12] Unknown:

Yes, Rain. That was me.   Oh, you're fine.   But I am.   So   I no. It doesn't take nearly as long to put two and a half gallons of depth   in through the, through the the plastic jugs as it does through a through a pump.   But at the same time, it's, you know   now it's about every other day I'm buying two boxes of DEF   just to keep the thing topped up because   each box is only two and a half gallons, and   within two,   within two days, I burnt off a quarter tank of DEF, which is about average.   Yeah.   So so that way, I don't have to try going out and   buying,   you know, waiting until it's down to a quarter of a quarter of a tank and buying 15 gallons worth of DEF to pour into the end of the damn thing.  

Because, I mean You don't stop you don't stop any place that offers DEF at the pump? No. That's what I was saying. They Oh, okay. Got it. Okay. Don't want you to use DEF at the pump.  

[01:36:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Alright.   So  

[01:36:24] Unknown:

Okay. I have to go out yeah. Yeah. I mean, the the   main place that we go to grab our fuel at the end of the day,   at this moment has DEF at the pump. But when you go and put your card in, it doesn't ask you, hey. Do you want DEF and,   diesel? It's just like, alright. Well, here you go. There's all diesel fill up. That's it.   So you want if you want,   DEF, you've gotta go into   into the store and buy the boxes.  

[01:36:54] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Crazy.   So   I mean,   I mean, you know, they've they've   you know, since dev first came out years ago that   things have gotten better.   You know? Yeah.   I   don't know. But,   I mean, but, apparently,   your company doesn't wanna see it that way.  

[01:37:17] Unknown:

Nope.  

[01:37:18] Duuude-Ron :

So, I mean, that's that's our business. It's our trucks. You know? They're the ones   paying the bills,   so I get it, I guess.  

[01:37:28] Rich Chelson:

So do you do Rich, do you or, Brian, do you do oil changes   yourself, or do you take your Oh, no. No. No. They've got a No. Your personal vehicle.   Your personal vehicle.   Do you do oil changes on your personal vehicle yourself, or do you go to an oil change place?  

[01:37:49] Unknown:

I take it to an oil change place just because it's faster.   Oh. And I don't have I don't have the blocks and stuff like that   to to to get to get the car high enough that I can crawl underneath it.  

[01:38:03] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   And you know why I was asking you that. Right?  

[01:38:09] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-uh.  

[01:38:10] Rich Chelson:

If you take that, fill tube   from the DEF,   Those will attach to an oil can   when you fill up your oil in your vehicle, in your car.  

[01:38:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's  

[01:38:25] Unknown:

like you just  

[01:38:28] Rich Chelson:

Yep. It has the   same thread pattern as the oil container.   Yep.  

[01:38:38] Unknown:

Wow.  

[01:38:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. I saw that Yep. I saw that on Facebook the other day or some or TikTok or something. I was like, get out of here. No way. That's cool as shit.   Yep.   What? No way.  

[01:38:54] Unknown:

Like that no way guy.  

[01:38:57] Rich Chelson:

Now Oh, yeah.  

[01:38:58] Duuude-Ron :

Now I'm not buying a box of DEF just to get that little nozzle,   but if someone throws a box away, I I and I see it, I'll definitely steal it.   Man, I I I think I might have to go to Bozos in,   tomorrow.   Oh, really? Or here soon. Yeah. Because,   they,   on Facebook, they say they have bold crawfish   for a dollar 39 a pound.  

[01:39:27] Unknown:

Wow.  

[01:39:28] Duuude-Ron :

Bold.   Bold.   Yep.   So all you gotta do is take them home and eat them.  

[01:39:37] Rich Chelson:

Yes. The HEB does the same thing.  

[01:39:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I see. That's see, this is the first time I had ever seen Bozos have have crawfish like this because they didn't have it last year. Well, I don't know. I don't think they did. But   it   but a dollar 39 a pound?   That'd be some good shit, Maynard.  

[01:40:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   And how many crawfish how many crawfish do you actually give in a pound?  

[01:40:11] Unknown:

Well, is it in there small? I'd have to say probably more than three.  

[01:40:16] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, it'd be more than three. It it, you know, depends on the   size of the crawfish. Like like shrimp,   you know, you can get,   you know, as many as 60 in a pound, but those are small.   And the larger ones, you get, I think, about 20 15 to 20. And those are   believe it or not, that's a big ass shrimp.   Right. You ain't gonna eat it in one bite. It'll take two bites.   So   but, yeah, I didn't know I didn't know Bozos head crawfish.   I just saw that. It's like, oh, I might Hey.   I might I might have to go get some fresh I'm gonna have some crawfish etouffee.   Oh, fuck.  

You know?   That is an idea.   That is an idea to make.   That'd be good.   I don't know. We'll see about it.   Not saying I'm gonna do it tomorrow, but you never know.  

[01:41:21] Rich Chelson:

You just never know.  

[01:41:23] Duuude-Ron :

Might be Saturday. Might be well, let's see. Are they open on Sunday?   No. There ain't nothing open on Sunday except the grocery store.  

[01:41:33] Unknown:

Really?  

[01:41:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, dude.   Everything shuts down around here on Sunday,   except for   except for your grocery stores and your fast food joints.  

[01:41:45] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[01:41:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Well, they won't   Walmart's open, but   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Everyone goes to church, dude.  

[01:41:54] Rich Chelson:

Well,   I I don't disagree with that whatsoever.   Just like Chick fil A,   it's not open on Sunday. Nope. Neither  

[01:42:04] Duuude-Ron :

neither is Hobby Lobby.  

[01:42:06] Unknown:

Yeah. They are not open on Sunday because God's Hobby Store, you don't don't try doing anything on God's Hobby Store today.  

[01:42:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:42:15] Rich Chelson:

And, you know, and I   we definitely respect   those companies   that   shut down all day.   Comp you know, completely shut down.  

[01:42:28] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:42:31] Rich Chelson:

But now   the other six days of the week, they work you to death, I guess.  

[01:42:38] Duuude-Ron :

Nah. I I I've heard I've heard people love working at Hobby Lobby.   Oh, yeah.  

[01:42:46] Rich Chelson:

Well, I've met I've met two a decent lead.   Yeah. No. I've met two that didn't.  

[01:42:55] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Was it the company, or was it the person that   that couldn't   you know? Because you say that's the thing. You know? And and, you know, I'm not saying   Hobby Lobby is the greatest because I don't know.   But but, you know, a lot of times, there's   you know, when there's not a   not a good   you know, someone's   not happy at a job, then,   you know,   who is it,   who is it really about? The person having a problem, or is it the company?   You know?  

[01:43:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well,   nine times out of 10, it's a person   not the company.  

[01:43:42] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   I was well, yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, I mean, I've left good jobs,   real good jobs for stupid shit.   You know?  

[01:43:55] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. Because   because not all good not all not all money   is good money.  

[01:44:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:44:05] Rich Chelson:

You know, I had was working at a place that,   you know, I was making   $70,000   a year.   And if it was at right now, if it was the last fucking company   in this area and I had to go to work there, I'd fucking starve.  

[01:44:26] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:44:28] Rich Chelson:

Because I will never   work at that place ever again in my life.  

[01:44:36] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:44:39] Rich Chelson:

So you're right. Not all money is good money.  

[01:44:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Most of the time for me, it was it was it was it was my mess up. There was a few times. It wasn't me. It was the company, but   that's very rare.   You know?   I was just not in in in in the right space of my head, man.  

[01:45:02] Unknown:

Yeah. I believe that. I've   been there myself.  

[01:45:07] Duuude-Ron :

And the best thing to do from there is punt.  

[01:45:10] Unknown:

You're right.  

[01:45:13] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh. Like, Bill Cosby used to say,   I used to like to punt on first down.  

[01:45:26] Duuude-Ron :

But,   well, if you do that, it keeps some guessing. That's for sure.  

[01:45:32] Rich Chelson:

You know? And and   a guy that I know because, you know, it being in the truck   and nobody uses turn signals anymore. It just adds tastes the hell out of me. And, like, one of the guys that works up at Grand Prairie says,   about the turn signals, it's like, you never wanna let your enemy know what you're fixing to do.   I'm like, yeah. I'm a lovely philosophy, Taylor.   Keep   keep your enemy guessing.   Well, yeah.  

[01:46:10] Duuude-Ron :

That's   smart business sense.   At least I think so.  

[01:46:16] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:46:19] Duuude-Ron :

So, Brian, what is your plans for the rest of the week?  

[01:46:23] Unknown:

Oh,   I am going to be trying to get   a few things done around the house. I'm also gonna be working on the,   working on the the,   the prep site too.  

[01:46:39] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:46:40] Unknown:

So  

[01:46:43] Duuude-Ron :

you go and get your,   lawn mowed?  

[01:46:47] Unknown:

Oh, let's mowed.  

[01:46:49] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   What? What? I had a kid.   Oh, I I was gonna say I was gonna say what? Did you make your wife do it? No. No. No. She ain't about to do it  

[01:47:00] Unknown:

just because that's   a lot of extra work for her. So  

[01:47:06] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:47:12] Rich Chelson:

How long does it take him? Two days?  

[01:47:16] Unknown:

No. The, the kid, they only they only took him about a   about a   about three, four hours, really. He's got a riding mower. So   Oh, so you didn't even mow? No. I didn't. Hell, no. I told you. I didn't.   I paid a kid.  

[01:47:37] Rich Chelson:

Oh, you paid a kid.   Yeah.   Alright. Well,   you do you, boo.  

[01:47:45] Unknown:

I did too.  

[01:47:50] Duuude-Ron :

Nothing wrong with that. I mean,   you know, if you can do it, do it. Yeah. You know, that's the thing. You know, we,   you know, we all think that that, you know, we've all thought at one time or another. Oh oh, I'm not a man if I don't do this. I'm not a man. You know what? When you get my age, I give them a fucking damn.   I'll pay a motherfucker. It gets done.   Right?   I will pay a motherfucker. I don't care.  

[01:48:17] Unknown:

It's like,  

[01:48:18] Duuude-Ron :

I know I'm a man, bitch.   Yeah. It's just,   you know, it's just funny that I mean and, you know,   you know, we all were grown up like that. You know? Oh, yeah.   Yeah. I mean, you know, but   yeah. Now it freaking comes to a point. I don't care what you think, say, or do.   I'm gonna pay a motherfucker.  

[01:48:44] Unknown:

If it's something I don't wanna do, you're damn right. Hell, yeah. Just pay somebody else to do it. I mean, that's   I see. Best use of money right there.   Right.  

[01:48:57] Duuude-Ron :

And plus, you're supporting local business.  

[01:49:00] Unknown:

Yeah. I see.   Put an initiative in the in the kids.  

[01:49:06] Duuude-Ron :

There you go.   Because that kid, as long as he took the mow your lawn, he wouldn't own no video game.  

[01:49:16] Rich Chelson:

No. Wasn't on his phone.  

[01:49:19] Unknown:

Or on his phone or   or anything like that.  

[01:49:24] Rich Chelson:

Yep. You're right.  

[01:49:27] Duuude-Ron :

No. I it just yeah. For a long time, I was like, no. I do it. You know? I gotta do it myself. You know? I gotta feel like a man.   Screw that.  

[01:49:36] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Were you struggling on feeling like a man to begin with?  

[01:49:40] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.   Exactly.   Well, you know, tryna   tryna keep up with the Joneses. You know?   Yeah. Screw that shit.  

[01:49:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I'd like to really know where the fuck they're getting their money at.  

[01:49:56] Unknown:

The Joneses? Hell, yeah. Yeah. What does he do?  

[01:50:00] Duuude-Ron :

Those Mow your lawn.   Changes your lawn. Yeah.  

[01:50:07] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. Probably selling crack on the corner.  

[01:50:11] Duuude-Ron :

You never know. Could be.  

[01:50:15] Rich Chelson:

Because I have never been able to compete with them motherfuckers.   Right. Me neither. They got they got fucking everything.  

[01:50:26] Duuude-Ron :

And then some.  

[01:50:27] Rich Chelson:

And then some.  

[01:50:29] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:50:32] Rich Chelson:

However, I've noticed that a lot more fucking Chiefs on the road.  

[01:50:38] Duuude-Ron :

Dude.   Wait until you come down here.   I mean, there's   there's fucking Jeeps every fucking where.   I I saw probably   I don't know. Fuck.   Already today.   And I was only out for a couple hours.  

[01:50:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:50:59] Duuude-Ron :

And it's not even jeeping the coast yet.   This is   just normal everyday stuff.  

[01:51:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I can't wait.  

[01:51:10] Duuude-Ron :

That'll be here soon, dude.  

[01:51:16] Rich Chelson:

Two weeks from Tuesday.   Two weeks from Tuesday.  

[01:51:23] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[01:51:25] Unknown:

K.   What?  

[01:51:27] Duuude-Ron :

What? What? Oh oh, yeah. I had I had to I I had to look at my calendar.   Hell, I I thought my my, my VA appointment today, I thought it was yesterday.   And I had to look. It's like, oh, shit. It's not till Thursday. Okay.   Oh, yeah. I get I get I get I get sidetracked.  

[01:51:54] Rich Chelson:

So Well, we've we've all known that for fucking   as long as we've known you.  

[01:52:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But, see, that's why the the that's why I keep a calendar. So   so when someone brings up a date, I'm a hang on. Let me look it   up. Because I I   I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm gonna forget about it.  

[01:52:17] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   I agree.   I'm the same way.   Probably two weeks to three weeks.  

[01:52:29] Duuude-Ron :

Two weeks.  

[01:52:30] Rich Chelson:

Two weeks. Okay.  

[01:52:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   No. It's two weeks from Tuesday, dude.   Yep.   Yeah. Two weeks from Tuesday, and then   and then oh, yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. We'll go all over   Southern Mississippi and Alabama, and,   yeah, we'll just, yeah, we'll just have a good old time.  

[01:52:54] Rich Chelson:

That's good because I just got my registration renewed yesterday.  

[01:52:58] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's good.   That's a real good thing.  

[01:53:06] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:53:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I just sent off for a duplicate title.  

[01:53:11] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. And you said you ain't gonna hear something about that in for a couple of weeks at least. Right?  

[01:53:18] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   probably so, but I'm hoping it comes earlier.   So so, hopefully, my Jeep is legal. I mean,   like I said and, you know, I don't I don't I don't have a problem right with you. You know? Yeah. But,   you know, still, I I trust me. It's   it's been   a minute. I I want my Jeep legal because Right. Yeah. It's agitating.   It is. I I mean, thank goodness   today was the last   appointment I have   with the VA until   September.   So,   I don't I don't have   I mean,   I don't plan to stay home until   September. If I did,   god,   that would be just fucked.   You know? Yeah. But,   but yeah. So I don't have to   really go anywhere   except to Mobile to my piano lessons, which I go to them,   and then go to grocery store. And that's   that's all I go right  

[01:54:27] Rich Chelson:

now. Yeah.  

[01:54:28] Duuude-Ron :

Now as soon as I get legal,   I'll I'll start I'll start going back to my park and POTA, doing POTA's and shit like that. I gotta I gotta update one of my   softwares   on my smaller radios.   They have an update for it. Woo hoo.   Yeah.   So   but, yeah, as soon as as soon as my Jeep's legal, I can I can start going back to the park?  

[01:54:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:54:59] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   Because   because we have had a lot of po po around my,   around my area   for the last couple weeks. Area?  

[01:55:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:55:13] Duuude-Ron :

In fact,   was it   so was it yesterday,   or was it today? No. It wasn't today. I don't think it was yesterday.   Shit.   Well, yeah. Yeah. It was no. It was  

[01:55:31] Rich Chelson:

one say, yesterday Pick up your damn mind, will you? Already? Jesus. And sometime between Sunday and Wednesday.   Well Okay. We'll put it to within the last forty eight hours and   go.  

[01:55:46] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you see, here's the problem.   I've had so many cops up and down my street just this week. It's kinda hard to keep track.   You know? I don't I don't   I mean, yeah, I'm serious.   I mean,   even had a,   a motorcycle cop   come through, I think that was yesterday. And then this morning,   a cop   came over to these apartments, picked somebody up, let him ride in the front seat. I don't know what he was doing,   and then he drove off with them. So,   yeah, I I don't I don't know what the hell's going on, man. I was like, you know,   y'all just   do you boo and just let me out of it. But, yeah, there's   no. I've been seeing   I've been seeing an asshole to cops here lately.  



[01:56:36] Rich Chelson:

Probably could be some   probably could be a lot of theft in your neighborhood.  

[01:56:41] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I did hear about,   last time I got cigarettes, I I was talking with the lady up there,   and, she said over on Thirteenth Street,   I guess that's where that's where a lot of the homeless people   walk up from the beach, you know, when they're on the beach.   Okay.   And,   there's been people,   having their houses broke into or not houses, but cars and stuff. Right. That's like that's like,   three three, four blocks from me to the west.   Yeah. And, I mean, we get people I get people. You know, I see people walk up the street   from the beach and, you know, most of them   some of them look homeless for sure. But   everyone   that walks up this street,   I can tell you right now,   they just walk.  

They don't they don't try and   look around anywhere or try and steal anything. They just walk.   I don't I don't I don't know if they've had bad experiences   in the past or or what, but, yeah, it's just like they just walk up the street and mind their own business. I'm like, that's fine.  

[01:57:56] Rich Chelson:

Here you go. You know? Go ahead and try to come into my house.  

[01:58:01] Duuude-Ron :

What's that?  

[01:58:02] Rich Chelson:

Try to come into my house.   Yeah. No. You will not fucking leave.   Well, you will. They'll be carting your ass out in a in a bag.  

[01:58:12] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. No one no one definitely wants to try and walk into my house, honey, now it's  

[01:58:21] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:58:22] Unknown:

I should say, you know Yeah. But if you really wanna confuse the shit out of them, just walk in and say, honey, I'm home.   And and  

[01:58:34] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you see,   you know, if if, someone did that to me   and it was a stranger,   they probably wouldn't   like the outcome   because   I ain't got no honey now. Now if it was one of y'all,   I would hear y'all's voice. I'd know.  

[01:58:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. I saw a sign a long time ago.   It says,   this house is protected   three days a week   by Smith and Wesson.   You guess which three days   they may they might be.  

[01:59:16] Duuude-Ron :

That's funny.  

[01:59:17] Rich Chelson:

And then there was another one that says Smith and Wesson protects this house   every day ending with the were ending   in the word or   what was it?  

[01:59:29] Unknown:

Ending in the word of y?  

[01:59:31] Rich Chelson:

No. Ending with d a y.   You know, Monday,   Tuesday.  

[01:59:41] Duuude-Ron :

Tuesday. Wednesday.   Yeah.   Yeah. I don't I don't I don't I don't have signs like that.   I let everybody wonder.  

[01:59:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Like I said like Taylor said, keep your enemies guessing.  

[01:59:59] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   Yeah. And well, you see, that's the thing.   Anyone that knows me   knows that I've got something close   by. So Yep.   And anyone that doesn't know me has no clue, so it's all good.  

[02:00:15] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   I agree.   I I resemble that remark.  

[02:00:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Other than that, not much. Oh, I heard I heard   they,   found a pope, and I guess he's from America.  

[02:00:34] Unknown:

Yeah. I got the American pope. Of course, that was the fastest.   Seemed like last time they did,   did a,   a conclave. They,   it was, like, two weeks worth of   of black smoke.  

[02:00:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. I remember that.  

[02:00:52] Duuude-Ron :

I'd you know, you know, I had heard the old pope died,   hadn't paid attention or anything, and then,   I had I heard someone   kinda speak about it at the VA saying they they've got a new pope. I'm like, oh, okay.  

[02:01:10] Unknown:

So, I mean Yeah. Everyone was hoping that it was gonna be Peter, Peter of Rome. So   there were a lot of people talking about Peter of Rome.   Because that's supposed to be the the prophecy   season stuff, that's supposed to be the last Peter of,   of the, of the Catholic church.  

[02:01:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[02:01:36] Unknown:

Because the  

[02:01:39] Rich Chelson:

that   So, basically, they wanted a Peter in there. So as soon as   he died,   then it would be the end of the world.  

[02:01:51] Unknown:

Or well, some well, like, it's just I forget what the name of the   of the prophecy is, but it's but, yeah, they're supposed to basically,   the the last pope of the Catholic church was going to be,   called Peter of Rome.   This is gonna be the name that he took,   which, I mean, that kinda gives it away. So, you know, all you have to do is if your name's Peter, you're going, well, I'm Peter of   Texarkana.   Yeah. Yeah. Whoo. We we   got it close on that one.  

[02:02:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So you   Yeah. I that's why that's why I cannot get behind   the Catholic church. Never will.   Why is that?   Because of   the Catholic church has has   taken a Bible and making a mockery out of it.   Well I mean, cat Catholics pray to Mary.   Where does it say in the Bible that that that you  

[02:03:03] Unknown:

Well, it's they're okay. But what they're not what they're   and that's a common   deal where, you know, a lot of people go off and, well, they don't you're not supposed to pray to to idols, and here they are praying to, praying to the saints. It's   now it's kinda like going, hey, bud.   You know, put in a good word for me. You know? It's not your But but you see with the New Testament,  

[02:03:27] Duuude-Ron :

you pray to Jesus Christ,   which is God.   You don't have to have no one to put in a good word.   You can go right to the source. Well Yeah. You can go to the horse's mouth.   You're it's it's accepted.   That's  

[02:03:45] Unknown:

that is a huge issue. With Well, but that's just a that's that's a   a a thought   of of how   thoughts of a of an interpretation   of of a book.   And I'm not saying the book is just a the Bible is just a book, but, no, it's just how I mean, it it like any like anything, but Man has  

[02:04:12] Duuude-Ron :

man has well, look at all the different religions, man. And Yeah. I mean, look at all the different denominations   of Yeah. Exactly. But hold on. Hold on. When it comes to the New Testament,   okay,   what religion   is it?  

[02:04:29] Unknown:

Well, they're all. Well, they're all   No. No.   Oh, in all reality, it's it's Judaism.  

[02:04:36] Rich Chelson:

Well, there's only two in the Bible,   Jews and Gentiles.  

[02:04:43] Duuude-Ron :

And   the Gentiles  

[02:04:45] Unknown:

and the and the Sadducees  

[02:04:47] Duuude-Ron :

and the Well, you see you see, that's the thing. The Pharisees and Sadducees   were   basically like the Roman Catholics are now.  

[02:04:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Gentiles.   Jews and Gentiles.  

[02:05:03] Duuude-Ron :

And that's the thing. Anyone who's not a Jew is a Gentile. But you see in the New Testament,   Jews and Gentiles became one,   became a was supposed to have been   accepted as one. Now that hasn't happened in time,   you know, because man has   made the separation   and, well, some of the Jews have too. You know? I'm not saying the Jews are innocent and all this.   But, you know, either way,   we all serve one god.   Yeah. But Or It See, it it does the same. The destination  

[02:05:38] Rich Chelson:

the indestination   is all the same.  

[02:05:42] Duuude-Ron :

The only thing is, though,   praying to Mary or praying to an idol, asking to put in a good word is not in the Bible. So, therefore,   it's not   it shouldn't be done in my eyes. This is my opinion.  

[02:05:59] Unknown:

Alright.  

[02:06:02] Duuude-Ron :

This is what what I've read and understood it to me.   So   I'm not trying to preach. I'm I'm not trying to change anybody or anything like that. I'm just saying.   You know?  

[02:06:17] Rich Chelson:

Well and where did where did the,   real or not religion, but   Baptist. How did it come along?  

[02:06:28] Duuude-Ron :

That is,   Baptist?  

[02:06:31] Unknown:

Well, depending on if you listen to the church of Christ, they think that we're that Baptist sat there and,   and,   don't even worship Jesus. They according to the the church of Christ, we the Baptist worship,   worship John the Baptist.   It was like, yeah. That's a that's a completely wrong line of thoughts, but okay. Well, that's well, that's  

[02:06:53] Rich Chelson:

the way it derived is from John the Baptist.   The way he preached,   it is   the way   they preach today.  

[02:07:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But see, the thing is, you see you see, what they miss about that is John the Baptist even   stated   When when Jesus came up to be baptized,   he's like he's like,   you know, as soon as Jesus was baptized, he's like he's like, don't even listen to me. At first, John the Baptist was like, uh-uh. I'm not baptizing you, dude.   He's like, no. You're you're,   you know, him.   He's like, no. I I I can't even untie your sandals.   And he's like, no. It's written.   You will baptize me.   That's paraphrasing.   Right? Right.   John the Baptist was was led by God to preach. And the church of Christ,   they're   the way   it's it's   they've they've taken   they take the,   the New Testament, and that's   they don't even really look at the Old Testament. They do once in a while look at the Old Testament,   but   they mostly stay in the New Testament.  

And I found and I saw   something   here recently. The church of Christ, the reason why they don't   use   piano or or instruments in worship   is because the New Testament doesn't say anything about it. Right.   And you see that   just because   the New Testament   wasn't about,   scripture law.   It was about Jesus coming and,   you know, with the new kingdom.   Right. So they didn't need to say anything   because the old testament already said it.   They didn't need to say anything. Oh, y'all need to,   play piano and organs and, you know, liars and harps and all that stuff.   Right. You know? It had said it in the old testament,   but the church of Christ says, nope. If it's not in the new testament,   and that's what we listen to, Baptist,   it's   it's a group of people that said, oh, this is what the Bible means.  

Presbyterian is the same way.   Lutheran,   Episcopalians.   And it's like people just read   just read the Bible.   So   but that's where that's where the Catholics   you know,   if you ask me, they fold the masses of the people.   K.   What?  

[02:09:46] Unknown:

Well, I mean, that's, I guess that's a way to look at it. I don't see them as necessarily as   as fooling the masses so much as  

[02:09:56] Duuude-Ron :

No. They fool   them. End of end of thinking that   that that in and okay.   Like like,   well, one, praying to Mary. Two,   you can get excommunicated   from the church.  

[02:10:12] Unknown:

Another one There's a lot of places that think you can get kicked out of the church if you're  

[02:10:17] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And yeah. And and, see, that's like the church of Christ.   Thanks. Thanks, you can lose your salvation.   Okay? And you see that's you see that's the thing.   Okay? Here's the whole thing about it, and this is stated in   in the New Testament.   Okay? The church   is not a freaking building.   The church   are are are the people who believe in God.   So so   excommunicating   somebody,   we don't have that much power.  

[02:10:50] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:10:51] Duuude-Ron :

Okay?   So   so, you know,   just because someone sins,   a church will say, oh, you can't come to church no more, or or you're not a Christian. You're not a   a   a believer in God. What? Just because they messed up?   You know?   You know, if they keep messing up, okay, well, maybe they've they've gone astray.   They need to be,   you know, brought back and counseled or whatnot,   you know, if if that is what they want.  

[02:11:27] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:11:29] Duuude-Ron :

You see what I mean? Is basically, another man can't tell another man   that you   are are not you you are or you're   or you're not saved.   Only God can do that.   And there's a lot of churches   that do it.  

[02:11:51] Unknown:

Well, then they   whether rightly or wrongly,   believe that they're   they're speaking   for God. And then I I don't think necessarily that that's that they're supposed to be that they're speaking   for God, though they   they like to,   to claim they are.  

[02:12:12] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly. And that's you see, that's   that's something that I cannot get behind.   You know? Someone says, well, I'm speaking for god. I'm like, you better,   yeah, speak only to your life   because   you ain't because God didn't tell you to tell me this.   Now sometimes God does use people to,   you know, maybe,   you know, adjust your, perspective at times, but not to say, well, God told me to tell you to kick you out of the church that you've lost your salvation. God will never do that.   God will do that himself.   God doesn't pass the buck.  

[02:12:54] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:12:55] Duuude-Ron :

So I just I I I've just got   I've just got a couple issues. Yeah. Yeah. Well Right? Mourn a mourn a couple. I I won't Yeah.   You know? But it's just you know, this is just based on,   you know,   my reading, my understanding,   and stuff like this.   I am no   I am no theologian or anything like that.   Don't claim to be, never will be.   You know?   But it it's just yeah. It just people making a big deal over a pope,   over someone who   you know, because they think he's the closest to God.  

[02:13:36] Unknown:

Well, they think he is   he is the   oh, what would you call that?   He is   the he is the apostle. He is a direct apostle to,   of Jesus,   kinda like the way,   Paul was the,   was the first,   first pope of the Catholic church. I think it's Okay.  

[02:14:10] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well, the thing is, though,   is you see,   there again, in the Bible, you have 12 apostles.   There's been none since   that I know of.  

[02:14:25] Unknown:

Unless you're,   unless you're Catholic and then they've had however many popes there have been.  

[02:14:33] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. But you see, I don't I   I won't I won't ever I won't ever subscribe to that   ever   because there was 12 apostles   in that part. Luke and John.  

[02:14:49] Unknown:

What about Mary Magdalene?  

[02:14:52] Duuude-Ron :

She was not an apostle.  

[02:14:53] Unknown:

Was she not? Or is she just that   that man is trying to keep the woman down?  

[02:14:59] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. No.   No. I no. No. I understand. And and that would be an argument someone would try and bring up. You know?   You know? Like like   and no. They and well, you see, that's like   actually, they say, Mary Magdalene was saint.   Yeah.   Which   okay. I could I could probably go with that. You know?   Because I mean I mean, she traveled with Jesus   as, one of his followers and was a witness.   Right. And and everything.   And, you know,   Jesus used her   and other women. So, you know, I'm not I'm not knocking women.   But Right. You know, as far as as far as apostles,   no. There was only 12, man.  

And saints, well, I mean,   some people would say mother Teresa was a saint,   which is very possible.  

[02:16:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And   man   decides   saints.   Jesus   chose his apostles.   Right.   You know,   so   could I be considered a saint?   You know, I do   saintly things.   You know? But am I   oh, is that my,   as being a priest or a   nun,   something that, you know, I am doing   every day, all day.   So,   you know, man decides   saints.   I don't think God has ever come down   and said, okay. This, this, and this are gonna be saints.   You know, just like, okay.   The pope to,   you know,   being a I can't remember what you said, Brian, about   as God being   or the closest to God as far as the Oh, you're talking about the apostles? Yeah.   No. Well, okay. But who who   decides the pope?  

Man does. Well, okay. I'm bad. By by a two thirds vote.   So,   yeah, it's not God that's deciding the pope. It's man.   But I don't follow I don't follow Catholicism,   so,   you know, I don't   I haven't really ever educated   myself   to, you know, everything that   concerns for Catholicism.   Right.  

[02:18:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It just  

[02:18:11] Unknown:

I I don't know. I mean, I didn't I didn't mean to go off on this on this side tangent here. It just Oh, no. No. This is good this is good discussion. I mean, I hell, we're all talking out of our ass in some way, form, fashion, or another.  

[02:18:25] Duuude-Ron :

I just yeah.   Y'all have known me long enough that that, you know,   when it comes to, like, the Catholic church, I I just I just have   so much,   I wouldn't say,   animosity.   It it's just they're just leading people wrong, I think.   You know? And and   and other religions too. You know? I'm not just saying the Catholics. I'm not just picking on  

[02:18:56] Unknown:

them. Right.  

[02:18:57] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   But, you know, it's like   pray to God   and try and live your life,   you know, as good as you can.  

[02:19:08] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:19:10] Duuude-Ron :

And   go for it.   Ask Jesus in your heart,   and you're saved. It's as simple as that.  

[02:19:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yep.  

[02:19:22] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, a lot of people,   you know, think, oh, no. I I have to be a good Catholic or a good Baptist or a good Episcopalian,   which, you know,   that is one religion that is not hardly talked about anymore.  

[02:19:36] Unknown:

Episcopalians?  

[02:19:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   In fact, I don't think I've seen an Episcopalian   church in a while.  

[02:19:45] Unknown:

Well,   they're still around. They're I think they've I think,   I mean, as opposed to what they used to be, you know, they're not,   they're nowhere near the powerhouse they once were.  

[02:19:59] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Because yeah. No. I had heard  

[02:20:05] Unknown:

let's see. Where are the Episcopalians?  

[02:20:10] Rich Chelson:

I think they all went back to Pennsylvania.  

[02:20:15] Duuude-Ron :

Is that where is   is that   where they were from?  

[02:20:21] Rich Chelson:

I have no idea.  

[02:20:22] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[02:20:24] Rich Chelson:

I don't have a fucking clue.   Maybe maybe they're maybe they're hanging out with the Amish.   You know,   and it'd be fun. What what would happen   if The United States went to   an Amish way of living?  

[02:20:47] Unknown:

Oh. Stay here. Well, the Episcopal church   has experienced significant decline in membership and attendance in recent decades. Similar to many other mainline churches, this decline attributes to various factors, including   secularization,   aging demographics, and internal conflicts.   But the fun interesting thing is if, you know, we give we give Zoomers   Gen z a lot of shit.   But they're the ones going back into church in droves.   Well, that's cool. I mean Oh, yeah. No. It's very cool. I mean, a couple times that I've gone back into the Baptist church,   go see what's what's happening there. It's like, holy shit, man. There's a there's a whole bunch of young kids running around here. Not just not just high schoolers. I mean,   like, 20,   20 five, almost 30 year olds. It's like Wow. Young young  

[02:21:39] Rich Chelson:

adults. Yeah.  

[02:21:40] Duuude-Ron :

No. And that's that's fine. That's,   you know, I'm that's great.   Yeah. I don't know. It just   but, yeah, it's just there's just some religions that that   you don't hear   hear much about,   you know,   much anymore.  

[02:22:03] Unknown:

Oh, no. I have the wrong damn church.   I guess, Episcopalian and Episcopal Church are two different things.  

[02:22:12] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[02:22:14] Unknown:

Well, yeah. Because the Episcopal I was I was looking at it going, what's the Episcopal Church? The Episcopal Church   is   not the,   or maybe I'm I'm thinking Presbyterian.   The tongue talkers.  

[02:22:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I don't know who that is.  

[02:22:34] Rich Chelson:

That's Presbyterian.  

[02:22:35] Unknown:

Yeah. The Church of God. Presbyterians.   Okay. Yeah. Because the Episcopal   Episcopal Church   is   the the Americanized   version of the Church of Ink.  

[02:22:48] Duuude-Ron :

Really?   Okay.   I did not know that.  

[02:22:57] Unknown:

Yeah. They've been in in vast decline   for and I know why they've been declining.   They've gone woke. I mean, they've got they've got gay,   preachers and   and,   and and, you know,   people   you know, leadership   of the church doesn't is is almost as or actually is worse than   the Methodist.  

[02:23:26] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:23:27] Rich Chelson:

Wasn't that an Episcopal   preacher that  

[02:23:34] Unknown:

Mhmm.   A principal,   minister that, sit there and lectured, Trump on Yeah. National Day of Prayer? Yep. That's the very same one.  

[02:23:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:23:47] Unknown:

But, yeah, they have the   they have the vestules that are all in rainbow colors and times and stuff. You know?  

[02:23:55] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.  

[02:23:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Don't fucking think so.   Right? You know, personally, if I would've if I was Trump,   I would've walked the fuck  

[02:24:06] Unknown:

out. No. I think he I think he kicked ass just sitting there.   Just looking at her going, you're a dumb plot. You know? That's exactly what she he was looking at her thinking. He was like, you are such an idiot.   Because, I mean, everybody had their had their opinions on it.   Jeez. That's stupid.  

[02:24:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But, you know, I I saw and I saw   a a decal on the side of the,   of somebody's vehicle   that said we need to build this wall.   And there was a wall between   a church,   and,   the Capitol Building.  

[02:24:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:24:57] Unknown:

Yeah. They need the fucking tape. They really actually haven't had the separation of church to state. Well, actually, they have.   Because separation of church state   just means there wasn't a nationally   recognized   church.   Oh, okay. There wasn't a there it wasn't gonna be The United States was gonna go, we recognize,   you know, the Methodist Church is our is our,   national,   national church.  

[02:25:33] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Can have  

[02:25:35] Unknown:

you can there's   you're allowed to have Jews and   and,   and Islam and and all the different forms of Christianity   and   and   and Hindu and and all that.   Now now okay.  

[02:25:54] Duuude-Ron :

Something about that, and and I had heard this from Charlie Clark.   I I had seen his TikTok videos and everything.   And I just looked it up again just to verify.   Do you know the   that phrase, separation of church and state, is not in the constitution?  

[02:26:15] Unknown:

No. It's not. It's in the, articles of con or not the articles, letters of confederation or not confederation. The federal.  

[02:26:23] Duuude-Ron :

The federation papers? Or The federal papers,  

[02:26:26] Unknown:

the federal the letters of federal.   The anyhow. Yeah. The letters that  

[02:26:32] Duuude-Ron :

Federalist   papers.   The Federalist papers.   Isn't it?   I'll Yeah. It is. Hamilton  

[02:26:41] Unknown:

wrote was   and the other founding fathers were telling them basically, hey. These are  

[02:26:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But it's not but it's not you see The Federalist Papers. Yeah. Yeah. But but you see, that's the thing. That has nothing to do with the constitution or the government.   You know?  

[02:27:04] Unknown:

No. That was the founding fathers   trying to help get   the,   the others the states   on board so that they would ratify ratify   the constitution.  

[02:27:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:27:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, personally, I just think that   preachers, ministers,   you know, whatever   they are called,   they don't need to fucking   intermingle politics,   when they're,  

[02:27:44] Unknown:

you know, doing a sermon. Oh, no. I think they should be able to.  

[02:27:49] Duuude-Ron :

Why is that?  

[02:27:51] Unknown:

Why? Because that is   helping people have   a view   of of the current events.   Same as people   turn to talk radio nowadays.   And yeah.   Is there   I think that's churches   should be allowed to talk up talk about   the,   the   the the political aspects.  

[02:28:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, I agree with that, but it shouldn't be in a fucking church service.  

[02:28:32] Unknown:

No. If you don't like it if you don't like it, that's fine. Again, like everything else, you have the ability to go, you know what?   Yeah. I know. I I like you I like what you say, but, you know, this right here, I cannot agree with.   But And they can they can have a open dialogue and discussion.  

[02:28:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And now I can I can agree with that? But   one thing, you know, like like, I think I think I think dude's saying, and and I   kinda agree with dude on that, is is to the point, the person doing the preaching,   you know,   can they be objective   with the politics?   You know? Will they will they   influence it by their own beliefs or what?  

[02:29:19] Unknown:

You see, that's where that's where I would I would influence it. They are gonna have their own beliefs. Well, knowing that's I mean I mean, they they have their own beliefs when they're doing their preaching too.  

[02:29:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. Some of them. Yeah. Yeah. Some of the religions and, you know, somehow, you know, what I mean, you know, some of these religions have   have,   the conventions that tell preachers what they're gonna preach every Sunday for the next year.  

[02:29:47] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:29:48] Duuude-Ron :

You know, which which I   don't quite agree with all the time, but whatever.   You know, it's   ain't gonna split hairs over.  

[02:29:57] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:29:58] Duuude-Ron :

But but you see, that's that's where because like you said and and I   I understand what   what you're saying is is to have a have a open dialogue,   you know, if you don't agree with, you know, pastor John or preacher John, what or rabbi John, whatever you wanna call him. Right. You know? Say, yo, dude. I really didn't appreciate this. But   I'm also to thinking, what if you had someone there who wasn't saved, who wasn't a regular member?   And it just totally   pushed them away from ever going to church again, ever listening   again.  

Yeah.  

[02:30:41] Unknown:

You see what I mean? Possibility. I mean, you've got people who   you know, honestly,   I haven't heard in a long while, but you know what I would really love to hear,   preacher start doing again?   What's that? Bring back some good hellfire   brimstone.   I mean, come on. We used to have some   good Baptist preachers that would sit there and just rattle   the, the   the the,   the chandeliers.  

[02:31:10] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   And yeah. No. I I I won't I won't I won't argue that too hard.   You know? There's   there's nothing wrong nothing wrong with a little bit of that because,   back in the day, we had some awesome preachers.   Oh, hell yeah. I mean I mean, stand up gentlemen   that that were just awesome. And and,   like,   there's a couple that   that I've listened to.   Well, I still listen to them every once in a while,   but, I mean, they're past now. They, you know, passed away in the eighties or whatnot, but it's like Right.   J Vernon McGee.  

You listen to him or well, shoot. Listen to when, Billy Graham was alive. Go back and listen to some of the stuff. He had some fiery little little speeches there.   And and, I mean,   he preached it right out the bible and told you how it was. You know? Yep. And I I was like,   you know,   I had heard   I had heard some of his stuff, and I'm like, wow.   You know? Lay the power down.   Oh,   yeah.   You know? We shouldn't be sugarcoating   everything.  

[02:32:25] Unknown:

No. And, I mean, it's good to   you know? I I wouldn't mind. You know?   Every third Sunday, you know, that you're you're gonna you're gonna end up needing to turn your hearing aids down a little bit because the because   brother Bill's gonna get a little loud tonight. So, you know Right.  

[02:32:45] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's like that's like there is there there is one book in the Bible,   and I heard this years ago.   I don't know if it was at a revival meeting or if it was in church or it was but, it was   it was told to me. A lot of preachers,   they don't preach very   much out of this book out of this one book in the Bible,   and that's James, the book of James.   And come to find   out, James, the one who wrote that book,   was Jesus's brother.   I didn't know that. I had to look it up and verify it. But yeah.   Yeah. I had to I had I had heard that, and I'm like, no.   So I looked it up. Sure enough.  

And James,   he's outspoken.   Y'all just read the first or first and second chapter.   You know? Take your version and read the first and second chapter.   He does not mince words. Oh my lord.   I mean, he's just straight up.   I was like, I could   I could be friends with this guy.   I mean,   dude dude would,   you know,   make me cringe every now and again with his statements, but,   I mean,   he's cool. He just   he didn't care. He just went.   There it is.   Right. Well Wanna strip around with your wife, it's wrong.  

[02:34:23] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Just the way the same way that John the Baptist preached.   He did not mince words.  

[02:34:30] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:34:31] Rich Chelson:

It's either right or wrong.   Exactly. There is no in between.  

[02:34:37] Duuude-Ron :

And and that's the thing. James was the same way. I've I've read I've read a couple chapters, and I still read James.   And it's just like, wow.   I mean, you know, I'm like, dude.   But, I mean, he's   he's just putting it out there.  

[02:34:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   I'll have to read that book one day.  

[02:35:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's it's it's   it's not very long.   I think it's, like, 10 chapters or something.  

[02:35:11] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[02:35:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's it's not it's not, very long here.   I can't   can't spell.   Alright.   I got stupid fingers. It's Jamez. It's Jamez.  

[02:35:28] Unknown:

Spell it Jamez, and you'll get it.  

[02:35:32] Duuude-Ron :

I couldn't even get there.   Oh, it's only five chapters.   Yeah. It's only five chapters.   So   but, yeah, he's I'm I'm telling you what. He is   he is straight up.   He tells you   what the hell.   But so,   yeah, look it up sometime and,   you know,   like I said, pick your version.  

[02:36:06] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:36:07] Duuude-Ron :

Pick your version and   just   read it. You'll be like, woah, dude.   But, yeah, that that yeah. I'd heard that, and it's like, no. I gotta check that out because, you know, a lot of things I hear, I don't always believe. So Right. You know, you know, I go check them and,   you know, I,   you know, I'll sit there on my phone, my tablet, or I'll even   make my way back here to my laptop.   Let me read on this.   Right. No. I wasn't being lied to. So  

[02:36:44] Rich Chelson:

And what was the question you were going to ask?  

[02:36:49] Duuude-Ron :

What what question?  

[02:36:51] Rich Chelson:

Hey. You're gonna ask question. You're gonna you're gonna ask a question,   and then it got interrupted. Now you don't even remember the question.  

[02:37:03] Unknown:

No. Sorry, guys. Just knew it was a question somewhere in there. We just we just didn't quite interpret it. Right?  

[02:37:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. I   yeah. I sorry. I   I got   yeah. About that.  

[02:37:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You have so many squirrel tendencies.  

[02:37:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. The squirrels are just running all over today.  

[02:37:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   They're not just running around. They've done taken the fuck over.  

[02:37:40] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:37:41] Rich Chelson:

With the machine guns and hand grenades,   whatever the hell you allowed them to take over with. But  

[02:37:48] Unknown:

yeah. Oh, lord. Squirrel.  

[02:37:51] Rich Chelson:

Squirrel. Squirrel.   I I There's a squirrel.  

[02:37:57] Duuude-Ron :

I totally yeah. I I totally screwed the peach on that one.   Oh, lord. Okay. Yeah.   What was we talking about when I said something I have a question  

[02:38:10] Unknown:

about? Yeah. Yeah. We're talking about something.  

[02:38:13] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Okay. Yeah.  

[02:38:16] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that that's all that's all I've got.   That's all I got to say about that.  

[02:38:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:38:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   I, honestly,   I yeah.  

[02:38:34] Unknown:

You know what? I guarantee you're gonna go back and look at down tonight, and you're gonna be about to drift off. You could go, son of a damn it. I know what it was.  

[02:38:44] Rich Chelson:

And and, of course, the and, of course, he ain't gonna write the fucking shit down.   I'll remember tomorrow   as soon as he wake up. What the fuck is that thinking about? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Down.   But he's gonna go and listen to this podcast again.   And   when he says that,   I got a question.   He's gonna remember it.   But, again, he's not gonna write it down.  

[02:39:11] Duuude-Ron :

Probably.   I'll forget.  

[02:39:15] Rich Chelson:

You will.   Just like just like the rest of us. Hell, we don't even remember what the fuck we said ten minutes ago.  

[02:39:23] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:39:26] Duuude-Ron :

I'd be like, that's the question I was gonna ask.  

[02:39:31] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:39:33] Rich Chelson:

You better write it down or text it to somebody.  

[02:39:37] Duuude-Ron :

Right. I'm I'm   I'm gonna have to do that because this way here next week, I could say, hey. I finally remembered the quest.  

[02:39:48] Rich Chelson:

Well, there you go.  

[02:39:52] Unknown:

So   leave it to me, man. Oh, yeah. We well, we all   go off and   forget what we're   Oh, okay. Wanna do. Okay. Go ahead.  

[02:40:10] Duuude-Ron :

Let me ask this question. This is another question. I did not remember the previous question.   What do y'all think on these,   AI sunglasses?  

[02:40:23] Rich Chelson:

What?  

[02:40:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Ray Ray Ban is,  

[02:40:28] Unknown:

Oh, with with Microsoft?  

[02:40:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, Microsoft or well, Apple is, I guess, doing it now.   Oh, god.   Basically   yeah. These sunglasses shades. And yeah. And and, and, you can,   ask it questions because it's, you know, hooked to your phone,   and it'll search and tell you what,   you know, like   I don't know. It's it's   you can ask questions about what you're seeing or whatnot,   and you get,   an AI response   spoken AI response.  

[02:41:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   No.   Right. No. Not not not even interesting.   Not even interested in it.  

[02:41:17] Duuude-Ron :

Right. No. I I I had just been seeing them. You know? And, actually, Meta   Facebook,   is is is the one   right now doing it with the Ray Ban sunglasses.  

[02:41:31] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:41:32] Duuude-Ron :

And,   I guess I guess,   Apple's wanting to jump in maybe Google   because everyone's putting their money into AI.   So  

[02:41:44] Unknown:

Well, Microsoft is actually,   pulling away on a lot of their,   lot of their their,   funding for the, for the data centers.   And a lot of people are going, There you go. Microsoft   is now starting to without   without admitting it,   telling people, hey. Yeah. We're,   the   the the AI isn't quite as as   spectacularly   wonderful as as people have been   be trying to lead to believe   because  

[02:42:31] Duuude-Ron :

Like like EV vehicles?   The same thing there?  

[02:42:35] Unknown:

It's like, maybe a little bit like EV vehicles, but more I'm thinking more along the lines of just that, you know,   this isn't   the AI that everybody wants to try to,   try to say that it is. And I mean, yeah, does it make your life easier? Well, yeah. Yeah. It does.   But it's not,   it's not the   save all that people have been,   you know,   trying to hype it up for because, I mean, yeah, they're   they're wanting to,   they're having the   wanting to hype it up so that they can   have,   more,   what is it, more funding.  

[02:43:30] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:43:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I don't know.   I mean,   yeah, I do use AI a little bit. I don't use it.  

[02:43:43] Unknown:

You know? I don't see where it is. I'm using it a lot, really. I mean, I'm Okay. I'm I'm using it quite a bit because it's really good   as a brainstormer.  

[02:43:53] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Well, yeah, I know that. I mean,   you you know, if you're stuck on a question   or, you know, something that you're wrestling around with and, like well, I don't know if you're like me, but,   you know, I get one tracked   in my mind.   Right. So I'll I'll use AI to help me   ex it you know, look at different views.  

[02:44:17] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, it's just something something else   that   people have   that they want to think or have it think for them   so they don't have to think.  

[02:44:34] Unknown:

Well, there's   for a long while, I thought that also.   People and I I and it's proof that people are doing that because, I mean, you look at all the   fucking boring ass   YouTube videos out there that are just   just AI talking.   Right. They they have an AI script that   puts out a, an AI,   video   that, people have just kinda slapped together, and it's and it's it's spam. It's just videos   AI slop spam.   And that is   just   the biggest example of of just crap that's being cranked out. That's lazy   Internet work.   But, like, what I've been using it for is,   one, coming up with,   what are some good,   logos   for,   for the, for the prepping website that I want to do.  



[02:45:39] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[02:45:40] Unknown:

Alright. Well, it's come up with some kind of really nice looking,   logos. A couple of them were just, you know, like, okay. No. I'm not doing a shield,   you know,   on there. That's not   that's not gonna do me any good.   So I don't wanna do that. So  

[02:46:04] Duuude-Ron :

I'll see. And that's where that's where that's   that's not AI's fault. You know? It's just that's where that's where you know, you're just getting ideas to help you refine  

[02:46:14] Unknown:

what you see in your head. Right. And that's And that's fine. Comes up with really good ideas, and then I'm I'll turn around, and I'll I'll ask the questions like, give me   100 questions   that   a  

[02:46:28] Duuude-Ron :

a new  

[02:46:31] Unknown:

somebody new to prepping   would probably ask.   I'm sure enough. It'll crank out something. I mean, sometimes it puts out some that are just kinda really dumb. It was like,   you know, I'm trying to think what what I'm there was one that was just kinda really   not even just kind of off. It was just off.   And,  

[02:46:52] Duuude-Ron :

Are you so sure? Because there's   there's some questions people ask that are just, like, really, really out there, man.  

[02:47:00] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm  

[02:47:02] Duuude-Ron :

You know, I'm I'm just saying some some people have have, come up with some questions, and you're just shaking your head like  

[02:47:10] Unknown:

It's like, dude, where the hell did you come up with that line of thought? You know? It's it's like it's like, what the hell are you thinking about, man?  

[02:47:19] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, you know, because   it barely has   a half a word to do with prepping, and it's an off the wall question.   Right. People ask questions like that, and it's like, yeah. No. I'd I'll just ignore it.  

[02:47:34] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't see how that would help. So, yeah, we're not gonna play that game.  

[02:47:38] Duuude-Ron :

Right. So, I mean no. No. I'm not saying AI was wrong, but, you know,   you know, some of them bad questions,   honestly, it it well, it's like it's like when you get a warning sign on on a product,   you know someone   prompted that warning sign. It wasn't just Right.   AI is saying that. It was like, you know,   this is to be applied topically. Do not take orally   because you know somebody squirted in in their mouth just to see how it tasted. Oh, yeah.   You know?   Yeah. So Yeah. Like  

[02:48:17] Rich Chelson:

like, battery acid. Do not consume this product.  

[02:48:25] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know who in their right mind would try and consume battery acid.   But, you know,  

[02:48:32] Rich Chelson:

that's why they have a warning on it for it then.   Because somebody tried to consume it.  

[02:48:40] Unknown:

Yeah. Sometimes my ass went off. I'm like, hey. This sounds like it looks like a pretty good idea. Let's go ahead and wonder what this tastes like.  

[02:48:49] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. I know. But but yeah. That's why that's why. And Give us 10,000 thumbs up for it.  

[02:48:57] Unknown:

Make sure to hit that like button.  

[02:49:00] Duuude-Ron :

This is the last video you're ever gonna see.  

[02:49:04] Unknown:

We swear.  

[02:49:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I just   no. I I mean, I'm not knocking AI.   AI is starting to do   somewhat okay, but, yeah, you're right. It's you know, they   they tried to hype it up, which if you ask me, they try and hype up every new thing.  

[02:49:26] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. No. When they're going for investments, that's the word I was looking for. When they're working not real they're working that,   that that investment money, they're I mean, they're they   off to go way overboard. And, I mean, that's just that's evident in the fact that, I mean, of   of how overboard they've gone on this on AI.  

[02:49:50] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   But that's the thing. You know, people,   you know, people need a need a bandwagon to jump on.  

[02:50:01] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:50:03] Duuude-Ron :

And, I mean I mean, we're all guilty of it. We've all done it   at one point in our lives.   Well, at least I have. I can speak for me.   Not I'm not saying y'all were included in that statement. I should have reworded it.  

[02:50:22] Unknown:

But now it's   but, again, though, it's just the fact of how   that AI does do a decent job.   It's not great. It's not the it's not the end all be all.   And no one's really gonna take AI completely seriously until they can can they can find a way of getting AI to do the dishes.  

[02:50:48] Duuude-Ron :

That's a good analogy, dude.   That's a good analogy.   I got to admit.  

[02:50:55] Rich Chelson:

Or clean the house or wash the car or do the laundry?  

[02:51:00] Duuude-Ron :

That's for the robots to do, man.   Robots are coming.   Yeah. The robots are coming.  

[02:51:08] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I know.   You seen those new show up eventually. Yeah. You seen those new dogs that they have out?  

[02:51:18] Unknown:

Was it well, they move with the yeah. They're supposed to move more more naturally than   than previous,   dogs,   robotic dogs.  

[02:51:29] Rich Chelson:

And and they do.  

[02:51:32] Unknown:

Yeah. No. They do a very good job of it. Yeah. Really? They look like,   like little   miniature, like Yorkshire terriers and peking diseases. And  

[02:51:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   But they're they're they're big they're only as big as   the palm of your hand. Yeah.   They can fit in the palm of your hand.   Oh my god. Do look but they do look   very   realistic.  

[02:52:05] Duuude-Ron :

I did not know that.  

[02:52:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. From all of the   dog   manuret or  

[02:52:12] Unknown:

what mannerisms.  

[02:52:14] Rich Chelson:

There you go.   You   you really could tell   it hard to tell them apart   if you didn't know   and just   initially seeing them.   You almost wouldn't believe that they're robot.  

[02:52:33] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[02:52:34] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh.   That's freaking cool. Am I gonna own one?   Hell no.   If I'm gonna have a dog, it's gonna be real.  

[02:52:44] Duuude-Ron :

You want it to poop?  

[02:52:47] Rich Chelson:

Yes.  

[02:52:49] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:52:50] Unknown:

I'll just have it have it do do its business.  

[02:52:55] Rich Chelson:

That's right.  

[02:52:57] Duuude-Ron :

But   but you say if you have one of these   robot dogs, you don't have to worry about picking up the poop.  

[02:53:05] Rich Chelson:

Well, that is true.   But if I wanted   one of those,   there was a robot   couple decades ago, I can't remember what it was,   that tried to be,   humanized. It's like, yeah. That don't work too very well.   And damn it if I can remember what the name of it was.  

[02:53:31] Unknown:

Yeah. It don't get to me right now. I don't I don't I think I know what you the little it was, well, white dog look  

[02:53:40] Rich Chelson:

You know, I don't remember.   Or better yet, the,   the electronic   pet that if you didn't feed it and, you know Oh, the Tamagotchis.  

[02:53:51] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:53:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   They die. It's like Uh-huh. Oh,  

[02:53:59] Duuude-Ron :

yeah.  

[02:54:00] Rich Chelson:

I get the comments,   but come on.  

[02:54:04] Unknown:

Hey. Those damn thing were fun. I used to have a time I got you back in the back in the late   or early nineties   when they were popular. One too.  

[02:54:14] Rich Chelson:

It died.  

[02:54:15] Unknown:

It my yeah. Mine died multiple times.   I think as long as I was able to keep it alive was, like like, month and a half.  

[02:54:23] Duuude-Ron :

I never heard of one.  

[02:54:25] Unknown:

Oh, really? That was a little a little egg shaped keychain is what it was. And it was Yeah.  

[02:54:32] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:54:34] Rich Chelson:

It did.   Yeah. It was it was not   yeah. Mine died.   So Okay. I didn't Okay. I didn't take care of it very well.   Yeah. So it was did yeah. You didn't trust me. You didn't miss anything.  

[02:54:51] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Yeah. I was sitting here listening. I'm like,   I have no clue what they're talking about. Yeah. Tamagotchis.  

[02:55:00] Unknown:

May I have to go buy you one for   for for Christmas or something just so you have the so you can experience it and have your childhood.  

[02:55:13] Duuude-Ron :

Tamagotchis.  

[02:55:15] Unknown:

Yeah. If they even make them anymore. Oh, yeah. They still make them. Do they? They're a little, yeah, they're a little more advanced than what they were back then because it was you know, I think it was like a half bit screen.   What even a what even a full full bit. No. It's just really   low res.   You I hope you liked,   black and white because that was the only two colors you got.   So  

[02:55:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.  

[02:55:49] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Yeah. I I,   well, I found well, I found a, Wikipedia   page.   Let's see.   And they're like   I guess these are the original ones. They don't make them new anymore.   Because eBay   yeah. Yeah. People want astronomical prices for them.   Them. But   some are, like, $20, 16.  

[02:56:17] Unknown:

Yeah. They're   $10.15   bucks.  

[02:56:22] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. Again, I don't know what mine cost, but   it died   in in less than a week.  

[02:56:34] Unknown:

Yeah. It kinda happens when you,   you don't feed them. You gotta play with them, teach them, teach them tricks,   and go to the bathroom and clean up after them. And  

[02:56:48] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   I guess I'm just a   an irresponsible   parent.  

[02:57:02] Unknown:

So, uh-oh, good will lose.  

[02:57:06] Rich Chelson:

But it had to have been Rich.  

[02:57:08] Unknown:

Oh, no.   We lost Rich.  

[02:57:13] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   And it's getting big about that time.  

[02:57:18] Duuude-Ron :

Is it?   Hey, guys. Did y'all miss me?  

[02:57:22] Unknown:

Yeah. We were like, oh, holy crap, man.  

[02:57:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yep. We missed you.  

[02:57:27] Duuude-Ron :

Apparent no. Seriously, apparently, my Internet   got stupid and and   I I was sitting here looking at these Tamaguchis   trying to  

[02:57:38] Unknown:

pump a Gucci all about it.  

[02:57:40] Duuude-Ron :

And and then,   and then,   I looked over and it says Zoom connecting. I'm like,   what?   I looked down and it's like, I ain't got no Internet. What the hell? Then it come back. Y'all popped up. I'm like,   that's the first time I've ever had that problem. Yeah.  

[02:57:58] Unknown:

Welcome to the party, man.  

[02:58:00] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, thanks, dude. Appreciate it.  

[02:58:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So it's not just me.   No. It's me most of the time, but it's Yeah. Well, now not me this time. Nope. Nope. This time, you actually,  

[02:58:15] Unknown:

you lucked out. You didn't wasn't anything to do with you this time.  

[02:58:19] Duuude-Ron :

I know. It's weird because I'm, like, four feet from my router.   So,   I mean, it's it's I'm I'm not having signal issues. Mine just   shit the bed.   So but, yeah, it is, yeah, it is about that time, I guess. Yeah. Yep.  

[02:58:41] Unknown:

So   alright.   Well,   so   let's see. So alright. Well,   guys, this what this is, what you have been experiencing here today is the   is what happens when you have   three friends   who are   interested   in being   active in each other's lives.   And something that we do is every,   every Thursday, we get together. We've set a time and, actually, we've set timers and stuff. We go as far as   ensuring, shooting each other text messages, things like that, saying, hey.   Zoom's open. Let's get together. Let's let's talk. And that's what we do. We get together. We just have a conversation with   and what we've decided is to share   our conversations with y'all because sometimes they're really funny, sometimes they're just flat out dumb, and other times they might be kinda informative   depending on how you wanna look at it.  

And so we we share these out. And but one of the big things that we have decided right off the bat was that we weren't   going   to be selling anything like   mattresses or   or, you know,   bespoke boxes or or anything like that. We are   just wanting to   just have a conversation. We don't want ourselves to be limited   by   what we say. If we wanna say that, you know, we're   that,   that   HP computers are some of the oldest, most jankiest computers out there,   Uh-huh. Well, then we wanna be able to say that because if we were   if we were   being beholden to   a to a a computer company like H and P,   and we were wanting to complain about H and P Computers,   if they're a sponsor for us, guess what we're not going to do?  

We're not going to talk, Mac, about who our sponsor is.   That also works in play with   if we are   if we're doing   anything, you know, any other type of   of, of advertisement.   Because if we're doing the advertisements,   we are having to censor ourselves. Look at YouTube and watch how everybody   talks on their on on YouTube. You know, they talk about   porn instead of porn. They talk about,   you know,   self deletion if they happen to try to be having a serious conversation about suicide.   You know? Our show would not be getting any type of sponsorship. We would be demonetized   on YouTube   if we were   if we were on there.  

And we were   trying to do   trying to do a live show, we wouldn't be able to have   the   the   as fully open conversations, we'd really like to be able to have.   And so to do so to be able to have a open conversation, to be able to have   good discussions like this, one of the things that we've gotta be able to do is   ensure   that we're not self we're not censored.   If we wanna have authentic discussions,   we gotta be able to have the the full   openness   and current means   of   of revenue generation, if you wanna call it that,   doesn't allow for that. And that's why what we've decided,   what I write off the bat was to actually do value for value,   which means if you found anything that we've talked about or any of the show anything in our show   valuable,   you learn something, you didn't learn something, you thought something was funny, you laughed, cried, think, groaned,   anything along those lines,   then we ask that you   pay it back. Because if we're able to create some type of value for you, then all we ask that you pay it back. Now   does that mean that you need to   give us money?  

No. No. Not necessarily.   Value for value is   based on three t's. There's time, talent, or treasure. If you wanted to if you have some free time and you wanted to be able to,   to put in   chapters for our for our show,   you're investing a little bit of time. You put some time. This is how you're saying thank you for what you do. Let me take some of the, some of the work off your shoulders.   Or if you're really good at doing,   like, chapter arts, the thing I always like to talk about because, well, chapter art be, can be a a challenge. It could be easy.   There's a lot of, lot of AI jockeys out there these days who love to do   AI. And so if you wanted to do that, then all you have to do is do a, a needed at least 2,000 by 2,000 pixels,   and you can send it over to us. And, you can send it over to me at circle cast, c I r c l e c a s t,   at g mail dot com. And what you could do is you could just send it over with the, with the title of, of   episode art,   and we will and put the episode   number on or what   or whatever the topic was that you, that you were inspired by, and and send it over to us. We'll get it, and we'll throw it into   our   our our lot, and we'll start throwing them out and put them into,   into the different,   album arts.  

And, and let them go from you know, we'll just use them   as, as they come up and as we as we need them and   give you a shout out. And if you had, like, a link to a, to a website, we can do that too. We can always put a a link.   Thanks to podcasting two point o standards, all chapters can actually have a link   that goes to a particular page.   So as long as it's not some spammy, you know,   spammy type of, type of topic, love to be able to share that out with you.   And you can also send that over to Rachel,   too also. That's r chelson, r   as in  

[03:05:22] Duuude-Ron :

red.  

[03:05:25] Unknown:

Rachel.   And that's chelson,chels0n,@gmail.com.   You can send the send your your artwork over there. Then the third way is is treasure. So if you have,   you wanna be able to just you don't wanna spend time,   putting the image together or putting,   chapters together or anything like that. You just like they   here's $5   to keep your, to keep the hosting going. Beautiful. Awesome. You can do that. You can actually go to   any podcasting two point o,   modern podcasting app, and you go to podcastnewpodcastapps.com.   And   there, you can actually find a podcast app like Fountain or True Fans or Podcast Guru.   And they have support this show button, and you click on that. It'll bring up the PayPal page, and there, you can actually just choose   whether you wanna do a one time or reoccurring,   donation to the show. And there you can, you can   support us in that way too. So there's a lot of different ways that you could help the show. There's a lot of different ways that you can you can   contribute.  

And   with love, if you have any any thoughts, questions, ideas,   show topics, anything like that that you wanna share with us, please share it with us. And and and we'll see what we can what we can do, and we'll work those into the show   and have a good discussion over whatever the topic is.   So   with that,   Rich, what do you got,   for the for your quoted shots?  

[03:07:06] Duuude-Ron :

Well, first off, I'm not Rachel. I'm Rich. He's Rachel.  

[03:07:12] Unknown:

I swear, Brian. You you kill me with that. I love that. I love the fact that you someone came along. Hey, Rachel.   Yeah. Yeah. It's so what they heard it kept hearing was   Rich thinking that it was Rach.   But still   But  

[03:07:29] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know. Know.   No.   I know. It still gets me, but no. Just   I mean I mean, we still have people listening to us, and I've   I'm I'm I'm thrilled.   You know, this is this will be episode number 54.   So we've gone over a year, and we still have people   coming back and listening to us. That's, like,   totally amazing, man. And Absolutely. As, as Brian said,   you know, if you have an idea for for a topic   for us to talk about, you wanna hear our our,   bullshit or or our   insights or whatever,   please feel free to send it to,   Brian at,   [email protected]   or me, r chelson rich, that is, [email protected].  

And, yeah, give us, you know, your ideas, and we'll look into it and probably talk about it because we've got an opinion on just about everything. Oh, yeah.   Whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent, we don't care. It's our opinion, and   we we love to voice our opinions. So,   so, yes, send it out.   You know, share this. Also, share this out with your friends and family too   and, you know, people you don't like.   We don't have a problem upsetting people. We we really don't. You know? It's it's okay.   So but yeah. No. Just,   reach out, send it to us, and,   you know, email us. If you wanna email the dude,   just email me or Brian,   and,   we will   let the dude   get the question, you know, if you wanna hear his infinite wisdom.  

So,   but, yeah, other than that, thanks again for listening.   Thank you for   keeping with us for this long, and   let's keep going for more.  

[03:09:31] Unknown:

Absolutely.  

[03:09:32] Duuude-Ron :

What you got, dude?  

[03:09:35] Rich Chelson:

Oh, we just,   cover everything.   Did I go out?  

[03:09:42] Unknown:

For sec I didn't we weren't hearing you for a second, but, yeah, you're here. You're you're in now.  

[03:09:47] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Well,   as usual, you you two cover pretty much everything.   Me again, just   glad that everybody has enjoyed the,   our group topics and discussions   and   our lovely debating.   So, again, if you,   you want if there's something that you want us to debate over,   please send it send it to us, and,   we will definitely debate it.  

[03:10:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. We will.  

[03:10:23] Unknown:

We will have a discussion on the topic. It may not be the   most   coherent discussion, but we will have a discussion.  

[03:10:32] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   As long as I don't forget the question.  

[03:10:36] Unknown:

Right. Right.   That just throws us for a loop every time you forget that.  

[03:10:43] Duuude-Ron :

So  

[03:10:45] Unknown:

guys.   So alright. Well, guys, I guess we'll go ahead and we'll rip on out of here.   Rich,   dude, glad y'all were able to make it again. And, we'll we'll   we'll see y'all, next week.  

[03:11:00] Duuude-Ron :

Alright, man. Have a good week, dude.  

[03:11:03] Unknown:

Ryan. Alright. Y'all too. Catch y'all later. See you. Alright.   See you, guys.  

[03:11:08] Rich Chelson:

Bye. Alright. Peace out.  

[03:11:13] Unknown:

Come on. There it is. Open it up.   Close. Close. There we go.