Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets, where we dive into the art of living life intentionally through weekly conversations. This week, join Brian, Rich, and the Dude as they explore the nuances of social commentary, humor, and the importance of male camaraderie.
We kick off with a light-hearted discussion about quirky purchases and the unexpected joy they bring, like Rich's new lighted dry erase board from Hobby Lobby. The conversation takes a humorous turn as the guys delve into the mysteries of color perception and the science behind it.
The episode takes a technical twist as Rich shares his passion for ham radios, explaining the intricacies of tuners, SWR, and the importance of communication in emergencies. This segment is both educational and entertaining, offering insights into a hobby that is as much about community as it is about technology.
As the conversation unfolds, the hosts touch on personal challenges, the weight of life's responsibilities, and the importance of finding joy amidst the chaos. The discussion is candid and relatable, offering listeners a glimpse into the struggles and triumphs of everyday life.
The episode wraps up with a reflection on the power of friendship and the role it plays in personal growth and fulfillment. The hosts encourage listeners to seek out meaningful connections and to embrace the ups and downs of life with humor and resilience.
Join us for a journey through laughter, learning, and the pursuit of intentional living.
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Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude. Recording in progress.
[00:00:39] Rich Chelson:
Mister Brian. Hello. Hey. Let me ask you a question. And I'm just too. I'm just asking to ask ask. Oh, what you doing with the transcriptions?
[00:00:57] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll just hold on to them in case we need them.
[00:01:00] Rich Chelson:
Okay. That's fine. No. I just noticed, you know, that that had been popping up, you know, on Wednesday Thursday nights, and I didn't know if you had anything special. He's No. I mean, if we need them, we we can we can use them, but, I mean, hell, we got the transcription that automatically happens on the, on,
[00:01:21] Bryan Goodwin:
on Pot Home anyhow. So
[00:01:23] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. No. That's fine. I just I just want I just noticed it and just figured I'd ask it. Yeah. No problem.
[00:01:31] Bryan Goodwin:
No problem at all. I don't mind answering questions.
[00:01:34] Rich Chelson:
I mean, trans with me? Transcribe away. I'll give them a damn. Ask, did you say this? Fuck yes, I did. What you gonna do about it?
[00:01:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm gonna I was gonna say it's actually kind of fun to sit there and watch the AI go. Be tapping along, all of a sudden go, what did you say?
[00:01:53] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, hey. Check this out. I here. I I need to turn my video on. Uh-huh. You need to and, we're not live. Live is fucking up. We're, real bad now. And I still don't know why. Here. Hang on. Let let me turn my background off. Just background and facts. Okay. Damn. There's my white room.
[00:02:34] Bryan Goodwin:
K. Backwards, so let me see if I can figure out. 2 grumpy vets and a dude. Okay. Let's see.
[00:02:45] Unknown:
Here.
[00:02:46] Bryan Goodwin:
On on air. Oh, okay.
[00:02:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was funny. I was on I was on, I was on Amazon the other day or eBay or something, and, I, I found a, it was eBay. Found a on air sign from the thirties. Okay? Uh-huh. And, I mean, it was it was original. Art Deco 19 thirties, 19 forties on air radio sign that worked.
[00:03:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, cool. Yeah.
[00:03:31] Rich Chelson:
$27100. I'm like, yeah. That dog don't.
[00:03:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, gee, who is?
[00:03:38] Rich Chelson:
You know, I was like I was like, yeah. No about that. And so, and and I had looked and, yeah, yeah, I could find an on air sign, you know, for 20, $30, $40. Right. You know? Because I I mean, I just think it looks cool, to be honest with you. Oh, absolutely. And, well, yeah, I was in Hobby Lobby today. And I did I did not spend a $126. Thank god.
[00:04:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you got yourself under control just barely.
[00:04:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, just just I know. Just hang on. Just just hang on to that thought. Hang on to that thought for a few minutes. But, anyway, I was just I was I was looking around, found a pitcher hanging kit. Yeah. I was just going around looking, and, I saw this little thing right here that I showed you, and it's just a piece of plexiglass
[00:04:47] Bryan Goodwin:
K.
[00:04:48] Rich Chelson:
On a board with a battery operated stripability light.
[00:04:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:04:55] Rich Chelson:
Okay. I mean, it takes 2 double a's. And I was like, it was like 699. Oh, wow. You you can write on it with dry erase marker. Okay? Okay. Now check this out. The words were written with red ink, but they come up orange.
[00:05:19] Bryan Goodwin:
That's interesting.
[00:05:20] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Blue blue comes up purple and green comes up purple.
[00:05:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So that's a red light that's shining.
[00:05:28] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. It's a white
[00:05:33] Bryan Goodwin:
light. That that'd make any sense then.
[00:05:35] Rich Chelson:
Not right. I know it doesn't. And black and black comes up as, kind of like here. Hang on a second. Let me see. Once it dries, it comes up like, kind of a yellow. Yeah. It is yeah. Yeah. There's no rhyme or reason to it, dude. But
[00:06:06] Bryan Goodwin:
That tells me there's gotta be they may be using tri colors, but the red is really shining through on it. That's the only thing that could really
[00:06:20] Rich Chelson:
No. These are dude, here. These are bright. Here, I'll show you. These are bright freaking white. But the thing is, it could be bouncing off the wood. See that? Right. That's bright. That's white. But but but you see, what I'm thinking is the light could be bouncing off the wood, and this is pine, so it's the yellow wood. Right. So the red the red and and and the shadow of the the light bouncing off the wood is is causing it to make it look orange. It's the only thing I can figure out. Yeah. I mean,
[00:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, other than that, I don't know, dude. But, I mean, it's cool as shit, I think. Oh, no. It's it's it's definitely cool. I like it. But, yeah, I'm just sitting here scratching my head going, okay. Where where's the red coloring coming from?
[00:07:28] Rich Chelson:
From the dry erase marker.
[00:07:30] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I mean, but it but no. Because you've got blue is, or, blue is coming out purple. Red and blue make purple. Mhmm. The, you have, the yellow coming out orange. That is red and yellow. So there's red somewhere in that mixture.
[00:07:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But yeah. But this strip is But where? That's that's what's that's what's kerfuffleing me. I know. I know. It's weird, dude. Here. I'm gonna show you this. This is, I'm really gonna blow your fucking mind now. Okay. Let me let me turn my background off again.
[00:08:27] Unknown:
Okay. Now
[00:08:32] Rich Chelson:
you see your name, my name, or Ron's name, and my name. Right? Right. Your name was written in blue ink. K. Yeah. In fact, I see it blue on the backside, and you see it as purple. K. Yeah. Dude's name was written in black, and it looks like a peach Yeah. Kind of a peach.
[00:08:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's a lighter color than the yellow.
[00:09:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. My name was written in green.
[00:09:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Now yours is weird. I don't know I don't I don't know. See, red and green. K. It's a hot and a cold color.
[00:09:17] Rich Chelson:
So yeah. See, your name and my name look right close to each other. Yeah. They look similar. Yeah. But but one's blue and one's green, and dude's is black. Insane. I don't I don't know how it does it, like I said, unless it's the the, the, the, wood coloring
[00:09:44] Bryan Goodwin:
is the only That very very well could possibly be where the, where the the the color's coming from.
[00:09:53] Rich Chelson:
It very well could be. I I I mean, I'm I mean, I'm not a 100% sure. Oh, no. You got me lost because I was
[00:10:01] Bryan Goodwin:
because I know that what the way they there's 2 ways that they can make white lights, l LEDs. They can use the tri colors, which I don't know if you could change the colors on the on that, on that light or not. No. No. So there's a chance that they have a red, I see. What is the opposite of red? You wouldn't have to ask me that. I think it's cyan. So it may have a cyan filter on it, which turns it no? I I think that's what it is.
[00:10:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, see, red red is what red is what's, making this orange right now.
[00:10:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Well yeah. But what I'm do so what I'm saying is if you put the complimentary colors on there Right. So you have RGB, the red, green, red, green, blue. You also have, c n y k.
[00:11:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So, you got cyan, magenta, and yellow, and k is black. But c m y, c m y k.
[00:11:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:11:30] Bryan Goodwin:
And those are the complimentary colors to the RGB. Right.
[00:11:40] Rich Chelson:
But where do you get well, red and yellow makes orange. I know that. But Yeah. Well, okay. That would that would explain the light come and bouncing off the wood, which is a yellow wood because it's pine. So but, but what I mean, black going peach or a very light pale yellow? I mean, black and white being mixed through a light?
[00:12:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, black, a lot of times, is to get a black ink, you've actually got several colors mixed together.
[00:12:24] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That is true. You've got blue and a few other colors mixed in there to get that. So that could be
[00:12:31] Bryan Goodwin:
could be that, that, you know, yellow or whatever is in, one of the colors that they mixed together is a little more stronger.
[00:12:42] Rich Chelson:
That very well could be. But but, again, who knows? I mean, yeah, the only thing you could try
[00:12:47] Bryan Goodwin:
to to really start fixing or started, exploring that is to just go on ahead and, buy another set, a different brand of of dry erase markers and see if you get the same effects. Something tells me you're probably gonna get a different effect.
[00:13:06] Rich Chelson:
Probably. Very well. Yeah. That's that's very possible. That's very possible, but I don't know. Like I said, I freaking found this for 6.99, at at, Hobby Lobby, and I was like, oh, hell, yeah. That would be cool. And and you say the thing is, at at the time, I wasn't even thinking about 2 grumpy beds. I I mean, I don't know I don't know what I was thinking of. It just said dry erase lighted dry erase thing. Right. I'm just thinking, oh, fucking cool. Well, I get home, and I'm trying out the different colors, and I'm using my call sign. Right? And Uh-huh.
And I'm like, woah. Hold on here. Hold on a day. Because I was trying my call sign to see how it'd look with the light. Okay? And I'm like, oh, I had an idea. So I put 2 grumpy vets and a dude, and I'm like, oh, that's fucking cool. I was like, wait, I've been wanting an on air sign for fucking ever. Ta ching. So I was like, I ain't paying $40 for an on air sign. I made my own. Gotcha. For $7 and however many cents because I had the dry erase markers already. I didn't have to buy those. Oh, okay. Yeah. You know? I mean, I could have bought the ones that was the same brand as the lighted sign, but I'm like and then and then I'm sitting here looking at this.
When I get home and actually look at it, it's like, man. Because the last couple days, I've been I've been bad. I've been real bad.
[00:14:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Having trouble staying on, on budget?
[00:15:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Thinking about going off budget again because I got a wild hair up my ass. I had a had an idea pop into my head, and I've been fighting myself all week with it, And this don't help. Been thinking about getting a laser engraver. And Hobby Lobby does not help. Nope. When you're when you're when you've got a laser engraver on your mind. I guarantee it. It does not help. No. It does not. Because now now okay. Check this out. When I bought this, honey, I wasn't even thinking about laser engraving. This. Right. I didn't think about that until I got home, and I'm like, oh, shit. This is Oh, yeah. I could I could do 2 grumpy vets and a dude in a cool font and color it up.
Oh my god. No, man. I I was but but that was after I got home. While I was at Hobby Lobby, I went I went perusing through the store. And As one does? Oh, yeah. As one does. And I'm sitting there, and I find I find the leather section because I didn't know if they still had the leather stuff.
[00:16:26] Bryan Goodwin:
And Not much. At least ours doesn't. Doesn't have near as big of it as it used to be. This one does.
[00:16:33] Rich Chelson:
This one still does. Yeah. This this they even have rolls of leather you can buy, 20 by 30 inch roll for $85. There's a place in Amarillo that I would rather go and get it because you can get a lot cheaper, and it's damn near just almost
[00:16:51] Bryan Goodwin:
fresh off the cow.
[00:16:52] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. No. No. I was just saying this is just stuff I saw on the shelf. You know? I you know? But I saw I saw, like, coasters, leather coasters, and I'm like, I could engrave those. I saw corkboard coasters. I could engrave those. And I'm sitting here thinking it's like they've got all these little discs of wood. I can make little signs of all of just anything, you know, and and and I could freaking engrave it all, you know, and I'm Next thing you know, we're gonna see Pascagoula's got a weird engraving problem.
[00:17:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Out of nowhere, there's a stop sign that's been laser engraved.
[00:17:34] Rich Chelson:
Right? No. But but yeah. And and you see, I was I was looking at the leather stuff, and I and you see, I've got a box of fucking tile in my little wood shop right now that was, I guess, left over from the bathroom. Uh-huh. Tiled shower. I mean, I've got fucking material there. And, of course, Hobby Lobby sells basswood. I can buy a freaking, see,
[00:18:05] Bryan Goodwin:
2 inch by 2 inch by 6 inch block basswood. Well, I can get I've got some.
[00:18:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, I can get quarter inch by 4 by, 2 foot, I think. Yep. You know, I mean and and I'm sitting here. It's like, oh my god. It's like, all this shit. Yeah. I mean, I could I can make little signs, you know, little home decor sign. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, what? I'm like, I just like, oh my god. Don't I have enough shit to do to keep my, to keep me busy and keep my mind occupied? You do. Before you can earn yourself up to a laser engraver, you have to learn hand engrave.
[00:18:52] Bryan Goodwin:
There you go.
[00:18:54] Rich Chelson:
That gives you a reward
[00:18:57] Bryan Goodwin:
for doing the, to earn the, the, the laser engraving. Yeah. How will you think that dog gonna hunt, dude? Nah, depends on how badly you wanna have that, that laser engraver.
[00:19:12] Rich Chelson:
You get them before you get a before you can you're you're ready for it. I'm gonna run by there and snatch it from you. Dude, I could $380. I can have everything I need. And this is the 2nd time that I've had it in my cart. I was like, no. Damn it. The other night, I was like this because I I I don't know why it popped into my head, and I was I was looking at them. And, you know, I'm not I'm not getting a fancy one or anything like that. Just a simple one. But I just like, yeah, I don't know. But then I get this freaking little light up sign thingy doodickey, and I'm like, man, that'd be so easy.
That would be so easy to, you know, put a cool font. Yep. Make it all and and just and then and then just set it in there, you know, and, you know, I could color the, you know, make it, like, 3 d or something or whatever. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sitting there. Shit. I can sit here and do that. But I mean, I've got I pulled out. I, finally got off my ass and started playing with my Elinka radio. Okay. And because, a tuner I got for it wouldn't work, but it worked. Do you have a radio that doesn't have a tuner?
[00:20:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes.
[00:20:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, now, no, but yes, I did.
[00:21:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. I'm not understanding that. What, so what's the advantages of having a radio that you can't tune into different stations?
[00:21:09] Rich Chelson:
No, no, no, no, no, no. A tuner, a tuner is to match the radio to the antenna because
[00:21:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Okay. That makes sense now. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I was like going, well, that just tells me you're stuck on 1 in one frequency there, man. I mean, I'm thinking tuner, like,
[00:21:29] Rich Chelson:
you know, come in Tokyo. Come in Tokyo. What we you know, like, what we used to play with girls. So Right. Right. Yeah. No. This is, no. This this radio well, let's say I'm not I'm not a 100% sure. Anyway, the first tuner that I put with it wouldn't work. And so I moved it over to my Yaesu FT 7 10, my big radio, because the built in one seemed like it was acting up for some damn reason. And it it it works on that one just fine. Well, there's a smaller tuner I found, and it's it's made by Ham. So I got it, and it works with this radio. In fact, talked to someone out in California. They were 30 miles east of LA.
And, I mean, it was they was down in my noise, but I could still hear them and and they could hear me. So it was, and and on the display, it tells me how many power are, how many watts of power are going out, how many watts of power is being reflected back, the efficiency of of the signal, and the SWR level meter.
[00:22:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So a tuner is not an SWR then?
[00:22:59] Rich Chelson:
It well, no. What it does is, makes a match between the antenna and the radio. It makes a 50 ohm match, and then it measures the forward versus the reflective power. And the reflective power is a wattage. When you send a 100 watts out k. Most every antenna reflects back some of that wattage because of the mismatch of the antenna.
[00:23:30] Bryan Goodwin:
And Okay. So if you had a, say, a 10 meter frequency and your antenna was actually 10 meters, you theoretically shouldn't have any re any wattage reflected back to you?
[00:23:48] Rich Chelson:
No. Okay. 10 meters, which is 28 megahertz. Okay. And let's take, 28.4 megahertz. Okay. That, a, halfway dipole would be about, 16 feet long, total total wire in the air, 16 feet. Okay? You send a 100 watts out up that coax into that antenna on a 16 foot long antenna. If you're on 10 meters, you should should, in theory, get a 1 to 1 match, a 1 to 1 SWR. K. Okay. If that length is long or short in any way, shape, or form, you will get up to 2 to 1, 3 to 1, or you can get up to 7, 8, 10 to 1 match. And anything over 3 to 1, the, radio shuts down, or it it it shuts off the communication because it's, too much, wattage coming back into the radio.
[00:25:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. And that's the like, so that that that's the wattage that's coming back through the coax back into the radio that way. Right? Correct.
[00:25:18] Rich Chelson:
Correct. K. What a what a quote, unquote tuner, and I'm using air quotes here. It's it's actually a trans match, but but a lot of people know it as a tuner. What a tuner does is is matches the, 50 ohm impedance out of the radio. Okay. Going due to coax out out to the antenna, and it it, it it tunes the it tunes the radio and the wattage coming back in, and it brings it down to, a it might drop the efficiency of the antenna, but it'll still transmit, and you can still get out. In other words, instead of having a 100% efficiency, you might wind up with 85%, which you can still make contacts, all over the world. You'll wind up with a 2 to 1 SWR, but you can still make contacts.
It's a tad confusing.
[00:26:30] Bryan Goodwin:
So, Ron, what what's that what's that sound again? What? What's that sound that you make again when it's just over your head? No. Thank you. Yeah. That that that's the one I heard. Yeah. I was honestly, I was trying to follow you. I sorta I understand the, you know, the wattage coming back because you you may crank out, you know, 10 watts or whatever. And so you're probably gonna get, like, like, 2, 3, 4 watts back. See, if it's 2 to 1, it'd probably be a, be a, be 5 watts back.
[00:27:10] Rich Chelson:
Right. And and see this thing, a 5 white coming back into the antenna.
[00:27:16] Bryan Goodwin:
That would do damage to the circuitry?
[00:27:19] Rich Chelson:
It could.
[00:27:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:27:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Five watts coming back. That's right. That's about, 6 dB loss. And, yeah, you lose 6 dB. You ain't talking to nobody. So That's why that's why I changed. So let me
[00:27:36] Duuude-Ron :
Go ahead. So let me be devil let let me be devil's advocate here. Okay. You're pushing out you're pushing out 10 plus.
[00:27:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[00:27:47] Duuude-Ron :
But if you receive more than 5, your electronics is gonna get fried.
[00:27:56] Rich Chelson:
It's possible. Yes. It could. It could happen. Why then are you pushing out 10
[00:28:03] Duuude-Ron :
if half of it can come back and and damage your electronics? Why you say this? Go ahead. Why not push out 7a half
[00:28:16] Bryan Goodwin:
and 3 and
[00:28:19] Duuude-Ron :
whatever comes back? I don't know if you know what? Right now, I'm just kinda running my mouth because I have no fucking clue.
[00:28:30] Rich Chelson:
Well no. Okay. No. No. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Okay. You see, that's the thing. Okay. Now hang on. The, 10 watts, let's say, you didn't know your antenna was gonna do this. Okay? So so let's say let's say you find out at 10 watts, 5 is coming back to you. That's no bueno. Okay? Now let's say you drop it to 7a half, and let's say 3a half or 3.75 comes back to you. That's still the same as losing 5 watts on 10. That's still a 6 dB loss. You you didn't change anything by a drop in wattage.
[00:29:11] Bryan Goodwin:
You just decreased your range, being able to talk. Okay.
[00:29:16] Rich Chelson:
I learned something. But, hey, it's it's like I said, it's it's not hard, but it is hard at first. Once you grasp it, it's it it it just freaking comes to you like second nature. You you can look at the numbers, and it doesn't matter if you're running 10 watts, 100 watts, 1,000 watts, or even 1500 watts. But that's why 1000 watts. So pure power. Power. Right. But no. That's why that's why hands are always striving for a one to one SWR. But at 1.51.6, that'll still rock.
[00:29:58] Duuude-Ron :
That'll be fine. I I'll be right back in a minute, guys. Alright, dude.
[00:30:04] Rich Chelson:
But, but, yeah, you know, a 2 to 1. I mean, I've ran I've made I've made contacts with a 2 to 1, you know, a 2.5 to 1.
[00:30:14] Duuude-Ron :
K.
[00:30:16] Rich Chelson:
You know, that that's where I probably have about 20% of my signal coming back. So it's about on, on a 100 watts, that's about I've got 80 watts going out and 20 watts coming back in. But, you know, I've done that once or twice. I don't do it very often. Right. You know? And that's that's why that's why I run transmatches on my radios so I can make sure I don't I don't because on this Elanco, when I hooked up this TransMatch and I I went talk on the radio Right. I, you know, I was on a clear frequency. No one else was on the channel. And I just threw my call sign out, and I said testing.
I had hit 8.52 SWR. So so and I was getting, like, a 24% efficiency. I had more wattage coming back through the trans match before it hit my radio. You see? It's another reason why. Okay. So what would be causing that? Just a mid mismatch between the, 50 ohm impedance from the radio to the antenna because I've got a 9 to 1 ballon. So it's running about 450 ohms or 500 ohms. It's it's running more ohmage than than the radio, wants or needs. So so that's why we use a a 9 to 1 ballon or onion and it, and it drops the ohmage from 500 down, down to a closer match with, 50 ohms, which is what the radio puts out. Okay. So why
[00:32:16] Bryan Goodwin:
use that word instead of just a deomer?
[00:32:25] Duuude-Ron :
He's not he's not bright as head. What?
[00:32:28] Rich Chelson:
That's a good one, dude. I've got to admit that's a good one. Because
[00:32:33] Bryan Goodwin:
what? Okay. Cause I was wanting to get, I was fixing to go and now the word of the day from, from rich is, and whatever that what's the word for deomer
[00:32:45] Rich Chelson:
A trans match.
[00:32:46] Bryan Goodwin:
A trans match? Okay. But you were using something else like a Dell d substance that that actually was taking the yet he had a d word is that is what it sounded like.
[00:33:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, a balan or an una? Dalan. Yeah. And what's a dalin?
[00:33:07] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Balan. Bravo. Balan. Like in in like as in balance?
[00:33:12] Rich Chelson:
No. Balu bravo alpha Lima uniform November.
[00:33:17] Bryan Goodwin:
K. So what is a balun?
[00:33:20] Rich Chelson:
It is it stands for balance to unbalanced. Okay. The, the, the, you get an education here. Okay? Hang on. Okay. The, the, Balan takes the, see, a balanced line is a coax line. The radio puts out 50 ohms. The, coax that comes out is 50 ohms. Okay? Now when you're running an in fed random wire like what I'm running, that's unbalanced.
[00:33:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. An in fed random wire. Yep. Mhmm. Okay. So what makes this wire random?
[00:34:01] Rich Chelson:
Well, when you put a signal to it, it just it just goes all kinds of berserk. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So it's unpredictable. Yes. It is. And, well, by math, no, it's not.
[00:34:17] Bryan Goodwin:
But, yes, it is. Okay. But that, that, that just, that scrambles my, my, my gourd, because I might go on if it's a certain length, which should be, you know, if it, is it the material that it's made of that does it or is it you know, or is it just, you know, copper, a copper antenna will just, you know, sometimes will just go bad and all of a sudden start sending, you know, wrong signals your way or something.
[00:34:49] Rich Chelson:
No. No. You see, every frequency or or, every band in AM radio, FM radio, ham radio, CB, everything. K. Like, has antennas that are a certain wavelength.
[00:35:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Yeah. That's the that's the length that you were we were talking about. Right. Right.
[00:35:14] Rich Chelson:
And, like like, 40 meters. Okay, is is is one wavelength. Okay? K. It's like oh, fuck. Make I mean, think here, dude. Well, it's nice. Doing this since you since you started launching about, you know, different types of,
[00:35:39] Bryan Goodwin:
of deomas and and and everything else. I'm, like, going, okay. Stop the r e
[00:35:46] Rich Chelson:
all here. Brain
[00:35:47] Bryan Goodwin:
full. Brain full.
[00:35:49] Rich Chelson:
Hang on. Hang on. Why am I thinking so hard when I got the fucking internet right here? It can help me
[00:35:55] Bryan Goodwin:
because we're old and we, that's what we're used to doing. Right. We will, we will bullshit our way into the truth one way or another. And then we'll go, oh yeah. Hey, let's look this up.
[00:36:10] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because you see what's funny, 40 meters k. Is, 7.2 just for simple math. 7 point 2. Hang on. Fucking Google. There it is. Let me get down here. Yes. Okay. 40 meters from 7.0 megahertz, 7.3 megahertz is 67 feet, give or take.
[00:36:55] Bryan Goodwin:
That's a long now is that from the because one of the things I've always kinda wondered is, is that the full length from the from the the transmitter itself out to the end of the antenna, or is that does that length actually start at the base of the antenna?
[00:37:18] Rich Chelson:
Well, it depends if you run it as a vertical or a dipole or an inverted v or
[00:37:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Got it. Of course. Like, the the answer will work for this one, but none of the other none of the other options of antennas that you've got. Right. No. Okay. Look. Just just to make it simple,
[00:37:40] Rich Chelson:
1 a a 40 meter wire antenna is 67 feet long. Okay?
[00:37:47] Bryan Goodwin:
K. And that sounds like it's a really long antenna.
[00:37:51] Rich Chelson:
It is.
[00:37:52] Bryan Goodwin:
So It's it's it's not the longest, but it is No. No. No. No. No. I mean, you could go to the ultra the ultra low frequencies, which were are miles upon miles long. I get that.
[00:38:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, say, 160, which is what hams can, run 160 meters, the length on that wire, Okay. Really? And then fed for 160. It's about a 130 feet.
[00:38:34] Bryan Goodwin:
So you see again that when I hear that, I'm thinking from the point that it, the signal leaves the transmitter itself. No. So it's just the antenna itself that could be 160
[00:38:48] Rich Chelson:
feet or a 130 feet. The wire the wire itself is a 130 feet, and then it goes into normally a 1 to 1 ballon or Okay. Something like that. And the coax comes from the transmitter and whether you're running a a 50 foot, 75 foot, 100 foot, 150 foot, it runs up into the in, the ballon. Right? And and then it sends a signal out. Okay. Oh, so the ballon is actually in between the antenna and the coax? Yep. Yep. And so and so the thing is is that's why that's why and you see what's funny though with, with a 40 meter wire at 67 feet, it's actually a multibanded antenna because you can make you can get contacts and make it work on 20 meters. You can make it work on 15 meters because 15 meters is a third harmonic of 40 meters.
[00:39:55] Bryan Goodwin:
And I believe Yeah. I I get that because it would the the signal itself wouldn't actually have
[00:40:01] Rich Chelson:
to technically run the full length of the, of the antenna. Right. And I think 10 meters is a 5th harmonic. I could be wrong on that. But the reason why the reason why I'm running a 41 foot instead of a 67, a 130, or any other thing in between is, 41 feet is, one of the lengths that will run 40 meters down to, 6 meters and not not touch any other harmonics of any other frequency. Let's see. I think 73 feet is, another one that won't touch any, other harmonics. As long as you stay away from the other harmonics, you can run what I like to call the odd numbers.
And, I mean, they're not all odd, but they're they're they're odd numbers. They're just Okay. They're they're just called odd numbers. Well, most of them are, but, yeah, there's 29, 355, 41, 58, 71, 84, 107, 119, 148, 347, 407, and 423. And you can run them by themselves with either a 9 to 1 or a 49 to 1, unun, and talk all over the world.
[00:41:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So what is an unum?
[00:41:53] Rich Chelson:
Unbalanced.
[00:41:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, that's the unbalanced thing again. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. You you filled my brain up. I'm starting to get shit dripping out here.
[00:42:01] Rich Chelson:
No. You're fine, dude. I dude, this is I'm telling you, this is this is a lot of information. And, I mean and you see, as as a tech, I had to learn some of this stuff. I I I didn't have to learn near the stuff. But when I went to general, oh my god. I I I had to learn all this stuff. Now now now did I have to memorize it? Not really. No. For the test, yeah, I kinda did. Now there is still one other, level above me, and that's extra. And that's what that's when we get into Smith charts, inductance, capacitance of antennas, radios, all this other stuff. You know? We get into and and I I just for some reason, I I, right now I cannot get my brain to work.
[00:42:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah, because it's full of all this other stuff.
[00:43:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And I need to add, I need to add,
[00:43:07] Bryan Goodwin:
more to that. Gonna say, get yourself get yourself a couple terabyte external hard drives and plug them into yours and that offload some of that stuff. Good grief, man. Right.
[00:43:20] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, this yeah. This is this I mean, and I don't know. I I mean, what? This is what? My 17th year of doing this stuff. So, yeah, some of the stuff I've forgotten, but, yeah, if I think about it long enough, I can I can remember it?
[00:43:39] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? But It it comes percolating back to the top.
[00:43:42] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. But no. It's and and, see, that's the thing. It's just I don't know. I just I just love I just love talking on the radio, man. And it's just a lot of fun because, you know, still and and this is another reason why I got this Elenca radio. This is a true analog radio. It has no bells and whistles,
[00:44:05] Bryan Goodwin:
no fancy disc Oh, that's this okay. Okay. Okay. I know which one you're talking about now. This one. And and
[00:44:11] Rich Chelson:
and it's the radio, a wire antenna, and power. That's it. That's it. And, and I it's just, it's like, I love it. I can, man. I can, so, so that's a really good one for
[00:44:27] Bryan Goodwin:
like, if fit was really hit the sham.
[00:44:31] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Okay. Definitely. Yep.
[00:44:37] Bryan Goodwin:
So you won't go all the way back to the cave, man. You'll just go back to old wild west days.
[00:44:43] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yep. And that's and and you see and because, I mean, I love my Yaesu. I I love my Zykoo radios, but those are SDR or software defined radios. Right. So so if something was to happen, I would lose those radios. Probably this one here, I ain't going to. As long as I can find a working battery or power, 12 volt power Right. I'm game, dude. I'm good. So Okay. Throw a wire in the air, talk to whoever's out there.
[00:45:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Before it hits the ground, you gotta be real fast.
[00:45:27] Rich Chelson:
No, I would, I would, Hey, anybody? Hey, there. Can you hear me? Damn it. I would hang it in a tree. Oh, there you go. That might help. That would help out a lot. Yeah. Or or I mean, I've got one fixing to get another one. I could get a I've got a ground mounted vertical, so I don't even need to hang in the tree. I just need to stab it in the ground.
[00:45:58] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. I know that I've missed all of this conversation. Can you hear me?
[00:46:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes, sir. We can.
[00:46:08] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Just wanna make sure. Even though I admit this whole conversation, we're going back to not caveman days, but the wild west. Right. And obviously, this had to do with something about just the fucking world going to fucking hell in a handbasket, I take it.
[00:46:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's if if, if the world was to go go just completely tits up. And, and, yeah, we we lost the, lost the electrical grids and stuff. Not so much, you know, it's not so much somebody dropped an EMP on us or something. But say, you know, something some just FUBARed beyond all all all Okay. Ex understanding. And so, yeah, we've we've gone back. Most people who use just the the computer based, radios and stuff, their stuff would pretty much die. Alright? They need the they would need software based, information while Okay. Which has a a just an analog. No digital to it. It's analog.
And so it, top radio. And that's what, that's the one that would take us back to the wild west. We wouldn't have to go back to caveman.
[00:47:27] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So if everything went fucking FUBAR and went completely sideways
[00:47:34] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:47:35] Duuude-Ron :
Who the fuck would give a shit about talking on a radio?
[00:47:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, those who happen to have the analog radio still.
[00:47:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, now hold on. Hold on here. A lot of hams, believe it or not, the reason why we do this, it's it's not just to sit here and bullshit. It it's, because, like, during Katrina, during these two recent hurricanes in Florida I was gonna say, Darren, how are you? Hams packed up and drove down to Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Yeah. Passed traffic, health and welfare traffic, supply traffic. Hamm's hams take their stuff and they go to the devastation and they set up their rigs and their antennas and they they coordinate with the Red Cross, the Salvation Army, and all like this. And and they get traffic passed around, and this is how a lot of your news agencies gets their information because there's nothing down there. And hams Yeah. Because yeah. Hams are using
[00:48:42] Duuude-Ron :
themselves. I no. I can I I got it 100%, And yes, thank you very much for correcting me? Yes. Okay. I can understand that the hams pack up and go down there, and they're using their stuff as a repeater station. Okay? To be able because okay. Like, my GRMS radio, how far of a distance do I have on the radio that I have in my g my GMers? How far of a distance do I have before I can't talk to anybody? It varies.
[00:49:21] Rich Chelson:
It it varies with line of sight because if you have buildings in the way, maybe a half a mile in in Right. Exactly. In a I could you you might have 10 miles.
[00:49:33] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? I have never gotten 10 miles out of my fucking GMR ever. Okay? I may be lucky when I'm out wheeling to get a half a mile. Right. But you put up a repeater station, which the hams can do. Now you are getting that direct line of sight communication. Mhmm. And with the hams, it doesn't have to be direct line of sight. It it has to be a possibly a direct line of sight to the repeaters, but then the repeaters carry it all over the fucking place. Right. Okay? So, yes, a ham radio maxes out the distance for communications for FEMA, for Red Cross, for
[00:50:26] Rich Chelson:
fire, ambulance, police. National Weather Service, NOAA, everybody.
[00:50:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. All those for the factor of communicating between those agencies. Yes. The ham radios, I get it. Why? Because you can fucking talk to Brazil. You told me, can talk to whoever it is that you need to talk to. Right. And, yeah, those repeaters are gonna do that, but that direct line of communication radios, okay, goes into one repeater. The repeater sends it to the next repeater, and then that direct line of communication, handheld radio, will receive it. Yeah. Right? Okay. So, yeah, I can I can understand that? But going back to the stone age, what are we gonna what are we gonna use for it? Alright. I'll I'll be right back again, gentlemen. Sorry.
[00:51:27] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:51:28] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[00:51:34] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm.
[00:51:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Wonder what's going on with Ron.
[00:51:37] Rich Chelson:
I don't know.
[00:51:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Poor guy. Can't even stay on the on on the the call with this. Right. So
[00:51:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I I understand what what, you know, and and see that's the thing with with a with a f, HF Communications. There are no repeaters involved. That is a straight signal coming out of my radio going into someone else's antenna. Let's say it's over in England. It's it's my signal going to his his antenna going into his radio, and I'm talking to him. There is no repeater involved in HF. Right. When it's, when this emergency comes, a lot of it is, simplex. Now, there are hands that do use the, repeater stations as as long as the antennas are still up.
Right. And the and the shacks aren't flooded. But then, yeah, they'll, they'll, use the repeaters and, yeah, 2 meters can get out 50, a 100 miles. So, you know, it it it it varies. Right. And dude's back,
[00:52:54] Bryan Goodwin:
and he's back again.
[00:52:56] Duuude-Ron :
They don't know. Back again. And I may have to drop off. Oh, it's not. It but, you know, we're we're not gonna go into it. But, no, nothing is nothing is okay. Nothing has been okay for years, and it's not gonna be okay probably for the next several years. I I understand that that might just be a guest who fucking knows, But it's not fucking nothing nothing is okay. That's why I say, I could really care less if I wake up tomorrow because nothing is okay in my world. I'm sorry.
[00:53:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm. So what would it take for it to be okay?
[00:53:43] Duuude-Ron :
Win the motherfucking lottery. That's it.
[00:53:53] Bryan Goodwin:
But would that really be the case?
[00:53:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I if I won the lottery tomorrow, I would still much rather not fucking wake up. I'm just I'm exhausted with fucking life. I am fucking just totally exhausted. Yeah. And I don't wanna go on to detail in this arena right here. I'm sick. But, no, nothing it hasn't been okay for fucking years. But you know? Anyway, sorry about going off on the fucking radio.
[00:54:49] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You're you're you're good. Fine. Good. No? I mean, we're that's one of the things we keep keep doing is we're gonna we're gonna get this needle down to where we, a, find out that there's something other than that winning the lottery that will actually make you make you, not happy. Make you feel fulfilled. Make you feel accomplished.
[00:55:14] Duuude-Ron :
That there is nothing right now. There is no I have 0. No. I take it back. I have negative amount of joy, amount of anything in my life right now. What is going to resolve that? You know, like I said, if I won the lottery, I could get all my fucking bills paid. I could get everybody that I owe money to, get them paid, get fucking every I wouldn't just so I don't have to fucking have so much goddamn weight on my shoulders. And it's not and it's just shit.
[00:56:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I'd
[00:56:21] Duuude-Ron :
I'm fucking I'm just tired. I am fucking exhausted. I don't wanna do I don't wanna fucking wake up. That's just it. I'm fucking exhausted with life, With all the shit that's happened to me and it's fucking the shit that's outside of my control, but it fucking gets me involved with it is driving me fucking insane. Right? I really don't care anymore. I'm just so upset that I don't I just don't care if I wake up. Now am I gonna fucking do anything? No. That is not my yeah. Yeah. That is I could make it my fucking decision. I could very well make it my decision, but I'm not going to because that's God's lane.
And I believe in that. But damn it. Just fucking take me tonight, and I'd be happy. But I'll probably hear the alarm clock go off in the morning and then, get to go to fucking work just like 98% of the world gets to go and fucking go to work. Why? Because the bill man cometh. And yeah. And everybody has their own issues going on with their life. I get that. I really do. And, yeah, there are people that are a lot a lot worse off than I am. I I got that too, but I'm just fucking tired of my life. Would you like to have it? I can give it to you.
Anybody wanna trade? No. Don't answer that fucking question.
[00:58:35] Rich Chelson:
No one would probably if if if if we traded dude, I would probably, explode both our world. But that's me.
[00:58:51] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm just wondering what, what the world, what Ron's world would look like if Ron took the selfish path, stopped being so sacrificial in his actions and started living for himself.
[00:59:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You have no clue, is that? I saw that meme, that same type of meme the other day run across my Facebook
[00:59:31] Rich Chelson:
is Which one's that?
[00:59:34] Unknown:
Well, I I thought I'd
[00:59:37] Duuude-Ron :
I don't remember I sent it to you or not or Rich or who I sent it to. But it it boils down to why does everybody worry about pleasing other individuals when they should just be put trying to please themselves. Amen. And you're right.
[00:59:59] Rich Chelson:
I Yeah. Preach it, brother. Amen.
[01:00:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I will I will one day I will hopefully god, one day fucking just take a walk and not fucking turn around and just fucking leave. And whatever happens to every anybody else, you know, but yeah. And what happens to me, you know, it'll just be me.
[01:00:36] Bryan Goodwin:
So what's keeping you from doing The The majority of that. Not all of it because, but the majority of that.
[01:00:48] Duuude-Ron :
Funds.
[01:00:52] Unknown:
Funds.
[01:00:54] Duuude-Ron :
That's why I say if I won the lottery, I would just I could turn I could just turn around and fucking walk the other direction, get done with what I needed to do with funds, and just fucking leave.
[01:01:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. But How much how much would it cost? Let's just just to continue playing this this little mind, this little little, thought experiment. Uh-huh. How much would it cost for you to just head on over to Rich's house?
[01:01:30] Duuude-Ron :
$500,000.
[01:01:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Why would it cost that much?
[01:01:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, let's see. Because God only knows what the judge is gonna say in the divorce settlement.
[01:01:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So you're worried about you're worried first about the divorce. Alright? Oh, well. Yeah. What if you were to able to set it up to where you on the divorce settlement, say you got, what stuff would How much of the house would you actually want?
[01:02:04] Unknown:
Nothing.
[01:02:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So you could actually probably Nothing. Since it's since it's just you and just the missus, I bet you could probably settle a lot of it with just going. You've got it all. Minus the Jeep, which is my only form of transportation. You've got the house, the gr the contents of the garage.
[01:02:32] Duuude-Ron :
Well, all that everything would just the house would get sold. She can have whatever fucking after the taxes that I'm gonna have to pay because it's what the fuck taxes is that? Fucking something gains tax.
[01:02:53] Rich Chelson:
Capital gains? That's not in play yet.
[01:02:56] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:02:59] Bryan Goodwin:
It would be you this. If you if you make money off if she was to turn around and sell the house. Well, the house is the full what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying is Right. Say say we go through the divorce and you go, alright. She's got the house. You sign your name off on the deed just like it's hers. It's a 100% hers. I'm not part of any of it no more. You had to wash your hands with a gains tax, dude. You wouldn't get an ounce of capital gains tax. No. But also, I mean, she got to keep any of the money, any of all the money she could probably sell, make a make a $1,000,000 off of it. You know, she could probably turn around and and sell everything inside the house and make a little bit more. And then, you know, you've got, you know, but you're again, you're free. Whatever it is that you think is holding you back on the house, whatever you think is holding you back on the divorce.
Your, what is the worst thing that could happen? If you were to just say, okay. I'm done. I'm walking out of here. What's the worst thing that you think could happen?
[01:04:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, the house would go into foreclosure and
[01:04:13] Rich Chelson:
No. That's that's but but you see, you're walking away and giving her everything. So so so so whatever happened to the house would be of no concern of yours.
[01:04:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But let's let's let's, yeah. That's that's a good point. But also, what if your name's still on the on the title and she gets foreclosed on, it reflects on your on your credit account and all that. So what? What are you making that mean? 7 years from now, it's gone. Mhmm. It's a fart in the wind. Well,
[01:04:54] Duuude-Ron :
well, yeah. But then there's alimony and
[01:04:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Possible alimony, but I bet you if you were to give her everything in in the house minus the Jeep and some clothes on your back, there's a good chance you could probably walk off with very little, if any, alimony.
[01:05:11] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I'm sure. I'm sure. I just
[01:05:16] Bryan Goodwin:
first, I need the fucking money to, like, hire a fucking attorney to That that did not. Okay. Well, that I I see those I see those attorneys on on street corners that say, no fault divorce, or no contest divorce for $250. They still have those up on, up on the street corners there in, in Temple? No. I've never seen them. Have you learned? Okay. I see them in Dallas all the time.
[01:05:45] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Yeah. No. They don't have them here, but, you know, that
[01:05:52] Bryan Goodwin:
But you'd also have to I think it's one of those cases that you get what you pay for.
[01:05:57] Rich Chelson:
But but, dude, but, dude, look at it this way. You could get paid on Friday, pack your shit up in your Jeep, drive over to my house. You're not destitute because, 1, you still have your VA disability coming in. Okay. So that's your money guaranteed. Nobody can touch it. Alright? And you'll still have a paycheck from your job and take a vacation because you've got a month's worth of vacation. Take vacation and then switch to air gas over here. Guess what? You're working. You've got a place to stay over here. So you're not you're not dead in the water, dude.
There there is No. I'm not. You know, you No. I'm not dead in the water. In any way, shape, or form. So so, I mean, you could you could easily do this if you're so tired.
[01:06:56] Bryan Goodwin:
And we're not saying, you know, we're not we're not the the, you know, team divorce. Yeah. You know, whether you decide to have it or not, is is beside the point. It's just to use that was the that was the first thing that came out of your mouth was, well, we've got the divorce and she would, you know, all the money that's coming out of that. Well, that's a, that's a circumstance is all that is. How you wanna look at that circumstances completely upon you, man. Right. If you wanna look at it as, oh my God, I am gonna be financially ruined. Well, you're gonna be fine. You're financially ruined already. So who cares if you get for an an even more financially ruined?
You know, if you're if all of a sudden she you know, you're you've pride yourself, you know, half a $1,000,000 in debt. Alright. Well, let's let's declare bankruptcy and let's go let's move on down the road.
[01:07:51] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:07:51] Bryan Goodwin:
I got it. It's a it's a 7 year agreement on your on your record.
[01:07:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I
[01:08:01] Bryan Goodwin:
You might have to pay a little bit more here or there. You know, you might have a little higher interest rate for
[01:08:07] Duuude-Ron :
for a bit. I've already already fucking been there, done that, got the t shirt. I already filed bankruptcy once.
[01:08:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay. Okay.
[01:08:16] Duuude-Ron :
That was 32 years ago.
[01:08:18] Rich Chelson:
I see that. But so so so Yep. So so, actually, however long ago it was, since now it's over 7 years, no one gives a shit.
[01:08:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. It's not it's not showing up on anything. No.
[01:08:32] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know it's oh, I know it's not. I know it's not. I mean, it's dude, you can I mean, if you can a lot of things that I could do? Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:08:43] Rich Chelson:
You can step whenever you want to. You just have to want to step
[01:08:49] Bryan Goodwin:
and you, and you will, and it sounds horrible, but living for yourself, there's a, there's a, it's actually, they call it the motto in the, in the, in the book, Atlas shrugged. That is a motto and a pledge I've been trying to live myself and it's tough. It's a tough one, but the, the, the pledge is I solemnly swear upon my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man or never, nor ask another man to live for mine.
[01:09:25] Rich Chelson:
Amen.
[01:09:27] Bryan Goodwin:
That sounds horrible because we've been taught so much that, that, you know, altruism sacrificing yourself for those around you is a very noble thing. And it's not, especially when you are the, the, the provider of those around you. And that's kinda what the Atlas Shrug's all about. It's about the the the the thinking industrialist as opposed to the non thinking, looters. And so you have the industrialists who are all who are the ones who are making money, and it's easy for them to make money because they look at money in a completely different way than what the the looters look at it. The looters think they could feed just feed off of the industrials.
And what would happen if the industrialists finally said, you know what? Fuck you. I'm give I'm burning my dream to the ground so you can't have it no more. I'm doing the most loving thing I possibly can. I am taking the business that I have put my blood, sweat, and tears into. I have worked 25 years on building this thing. I am shutting it down. I am cashing it out. There is nothing left and I'm gone and they just, and they just walk away. They cut, they say they retire, but they just walk away. And what actually ends up happening in the book is they slowly are 1 by 1 day by day, the brains of, of America are disappearing.
And what happens to the world when the, the producers, the ones who are supposed to be sacrificing their soul to the, to the society stops allowing society to leech off of them. Great book. If you not ever read Atlas shrugged, go online, get a, get a, an audible account and your first, your first book's free. And I'm not a, I'm not a, sponsor for, or, or or, audible audible and the sponsor of our show. But you could you can get that, and you can do Atlas Shrugged. Granted, it's a you're gonna listen to a good long book. That thing's a good 62 hours long. Damn.
It's a 1,000 plus, page home. Amazing book. I read it once a year or while I listen to it once a year at the beginning of the year, January 1st, boom, Atlas shrugged. And I, it will take me 2 weeks to re to listen to it and then come around June or July, it just kind of varies from time to time. Then I listened to another iron ran book. It's called the fountain head. And that is about men living their dream, not doing whatever, what the society wants you to do, but you living your dream, you have your vision and you seek that vision out. And that's, what's been been power and relaxed male for these
[01:12:53] Rich Chelson:
past 7 years is that I have this dream. I have this vision and it's going to be done.
[01:13:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Whether I have to piss everybody in the society off and I finally get, get them to see that I am around or I come across the secret of whatever it is that I'm missing, which I have a feeling it's just that I'm not getting out there. The the formula, everything I've kind of seen, I've heard and and stuff, it boils down to 3 things for for the business is meet new people, tell them I'm a coach offer to help them. That's those are the 3 steps. The issue I run into is I, I'm not, I'm not meeting people to be able to get the other 2 steps. So
[01:13:45] Rich Chelson:
Well, that that could pose a problem. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little tough. Yeah.
[01:13:50] Bryan Goodwin:
So because I like to sit inside the truck instead of going out into the truck. Well, there's no accident. There's no one in the damn truckers lounges anymore.
[01:13:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. No. No. Because they're all sitting in their truck watching movies. Yeah.
[01:14:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Because yeah. Go in there and, yeah, there's still a television running, and I can't stand watching the damn television because, you know, they've got it on some channel that's got commercials. So you're like, Hey. It's really oh, it's commercial.
[01:14:16] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:14:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, hey. It's back on. Oh, it's commercial.
[01:14:20] Rich Chelson:
It's like, goddamn. Hey, Brian. Hold on one second. Dude, look at your phone. I'm gonna turn my video on. You seeing it? Seeing it?
[01:14:35] Bryan Goodwin:
You there, dude? Yeah. I'm here. Okay.
[01:14:39] Rich Chelson:
Are you looking at your phone?
[01:14:41] Duuude-Ron :
I am I am looking at my phone.
[01:14:44] Rich Chelson:
Do you see what I'm holding up?
[01:14:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. 2 grumpy dudes or 2 grumpy vets and a dude on air. Yeah. No. I can't I can't fucking no. I can't fucking see what you got in your hand.
[01:15:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's that's that's what I'm showing you is that's that's what's in in my hand, dude. I went to Hobby Lobby today, man. He spent money, I get.
[01:15:14] Unknown:
Okay. That sucks. I
[01:15:18] Rich Chelson:
I I didn't spend as much I didn't spend as much as I did last week. Thank god. I was I was glad for that. But, yeah, I saw this, and it said it's it was a lighted, dry erase board. And I'm like, what the hell? That looks interesting. Okay. And it was 6 Okay. And it was $6.99. And so I got it and got it home and brought it all out, and I was I was writing on it and looking at it in the light. And I'm like, oh, shit. That's cool. And then I thought, oh, shit. I'm gonna do that. And then so I wrote that, and I I've been I've been I showed Brian already. I've been waiting to show you. I was gonna show you, but you kept jumping off there for a little bit, so I figured I'd wait till you got back on for a few minutes.
But but, yeah, I yeah. I saw that, and it's like, I thought I thought that thing was cool as shit.
[01:16:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. Rich is very easily entertained, almost as easily as entertained as I am, but I'm still a little more. Busy.
[01:16:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It was But when you when you had it up, it it I saw what it what it had on there. Oh. But then it was a different picture of what you're projecting in your hand. It was
[01:16:45] Rich Chelson:
Hang on.
[01:16:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:16:48] Rich Chelson:
Hang on. No. It's just it's just showing Oh, it's the okay.
[01:16:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See, it's It's reflecting your screen.
[01:16:58] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You just say the computer screen. Okay. Yeah.
[01:17:02] Duuude-Ron :
That is what I thought you were holding up.
[01:17:05] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. No. See if Okay. Yeah. See if I liked it. There's me. But Right. Okay. But yeah. No. I, yeah, I found this for 6.99 at at Hobby Lobby, and I I I just thought it was cool as shit.
[01:17:20] Duuude-Ron :
And I was like
[01:17:21] Rich Chelson:
Alright. And then and then I got home, and and I I was playing with the dry erase markers, and that was when I had the moment. And I was like, I could do that because I had been wanting a non air sign just because just because I'm weird. And, I had saw 1 on eBay. It that it came out of an old radio station from the thirties or forties, and there's one Okay. There was one $27100 for it. I'm like, there ain't no way I'm paying $27100 for it.
[01:17:54] Duuude-Ron :
I don't Gotcha. I don't care. Now okay. Now here again, you spent 6.99.
[01:18:00] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:18:02] Duuude-Ron :
No big deal. Okay. Well, I spent a little more now, but yeah. Okay. That's neither here nor there how much you spent. Now you have your background. Right? Yeah. On your computer, you have your background.
[01:18:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:18:18] Duuude-Ron :
Why can't you put a big on air sign on your background? Neon around it. You know? You know, like the old radio stations on air. You know, and have that for your background.
[01:18:36] Rich Chelson:
I could maybe do that. You know, I had I had not thought of that, to be honest with you, Duke. Thank you for for for putting that idea into my head. I just might have to work on that.
[01:18:49] Duuude-Ron :
And you know what? I hope that enlightens. I hope that just that statement right there just puts a smile on your face. As soon as you do it, it will have been worth, you know, the breath that I used to make the statement or the suggestion with.
[01:19:11] Rich Chelson:
You kill me, dude. But yeah. No. I yeah. I had to show you that. It was cool. And and it it's cool. You know?
[01:19:23] Duuude-Ron :
It is. Now now what you can do is when you're you can attach that to the back window of your Jeep and write the sign that says get off my ass. Right. Plug it in for whatever plug you have, and then, you know, use it as well, you'd have to get the and too bad you can't get, like, a strobing switch where it keeps going on and off to get everybody's attention, get the fuck off my back. And, of course, tell them that they are number 1. Of course, we can't forget that. Tell everybody that they're number 1 and get off your ass.
[01:20:08] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I could, and I've I've they've they've got signs that'll, actually, Brian, my Brian, had a sign that that had a had it it would either wave if you hit the button once or if you hit the button again, it flipped you off.
[01:20:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And you put it gave you a peace sign.
[01:20:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Or or just a full hand wave. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen those and everything, but yeah. No.
[01:20:40] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shit. And I would love to have one of those, and it would be telling people that they are number 1 all the time. That's the only selection I would ever do. You're number 1. And, actually, if I got 2 of them, I could tell them that they don't make the top 10 because they're number 11.
[01:21:05] Rich Chelson:
I see. So,
[01:21:06] Duuude-Ron :
you know, that
[01:21:09] Rich Chelson:
But no. I saw that, and I I just I got home. I was writing on it, and I had this idea, and I was like, oh, shit. That's cool. So
[01:21:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Now now that I was able to see the the boundary of it and why the reflection of the your computer screen, that's what I thought you were holding, but I couldn't tell what it was. Even though that sign was up there, I could see it.
[01:21:40] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:21:41] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and see you through it. Yeah. That optical illusion was just kind of, messing with my mind.
[01:21:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. Okay.
[01:21:53] Duuude-Ron :
But Which is not very hard to fucking do anymore.
[01:21:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think I might I think I might put a shelf right above my monitor up here and put this on my shelf because it's it's just kinda cool.
[01:22:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And then work on your background and you know what? Your background, you could have as, like, an old radio station and have the, you know, when they put that 5 hour tape on.
[01:22:32] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:22:34] Duuude-Ron :
You know, you can have that in the background and a little mixing thing in the background that used you and you know that those all used to take up a freaking wall. Right? Back when, fucking what the hell is his name? DJ Wolfman Jack.
[01:22:51] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:22:52] Duuude-Ron :
Back in those days, the freaking net piece of electronics that I have in my hand for this phone, it took a fucking wall to produce a shit. And then put your on air sign and that could be your background. And you would be the man, the myth, the legend in your own fucking mind.
[01:23:13] Rich Chelson:
My god. You know what? I might have to work on that tomorrow.
[01:23:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You can see what you see what my background is.
[01:23:24] Unknown:
It's dark.
[01:23:27] Duuude-Ron :
But it had a little figure. It's dark, and it has a little figure of Of a dude. A person, and that's as far as my background goes.
[01:23:40] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I might I might I might I might have to play with Canva tomorrow on that.
[01:23:48] Duuude-Ron :
Well, me, personally, I gotta go to work, so I can't do anything. Right. Well and no. 2, I don't have a computer, so I really can't do shit. So but that's okay.
[01:23:59] Rich Chelson:
You've got a tablet. You can play on Canva.
[01:24:03] Bryan Goodwin:
You can play on Canva on your phone. Oh, okay. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I do most of mine at, especially for the, for the blog posts. I'll be I've here recently, I've just I haven't been getting it fully wrapped up till about, about Tuesday, Tuesday evening. And that's when I'm putting everything together.
[01:24:25] Duuude-Ron :
And what's that site called?
[01:24:28] Bryan Goodwin:
It's Canva. It's, Charlie alpha Victor
[01:24:31] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Canva.
[01:24:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. It's canva.com, c a n v a.
[01:24:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That shit would go over my head real quick.
[01:24:45] Rich Chelson:
Not really.
[01:24:47] Bryan Goodwin:
It's actually it's it's really intuitive.
[01:24:52] Rich Chelson:
And and if you mess up the top up and says, what?
[01:24:58] Duuude-Ron :
Here's the problem. I, myself, am not user friendly. Now that site and all that may be user friendly, but I, myself, am not am not user friendly. I'm not friendly period, but, you know, hey, that's that was just a kind of a, what's the oxymoron that I was trying to prove.
[01:25:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Oxymoron is a word that, 2 opposite words that make, make a new word.
[01:25:35] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Then that's completely there's no oxymoron there then. I never knew what that meaning was.
[01:25:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Oxymoron like, jumbo shrimp. Military intelligence.
[01:25:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's a big oxymoron.
[01:25:53] Duuude-Ron :
No. That's just a moron. There's no, there ain't not one bit of oxy about it. It's every bit of a moron. Military intelligence? Yeah. No. Does not exist, but that's okay. And now now I just fucking drew a blank of what the fuck I was even just gone. Whatever I was thinking about, it that we were talking about, it the other than oxymoron is gone. Probably because I'm so fucking agitated with life. Yeah. Anyway, so what the hell were we talking about beforehand?
[01:26:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, we was talking about my sign in the background.
[01:26:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yes. Okay. Yeah. That's right. I forgot that we were talking about that. Okay. So oh, yeah. Me making a sign. Yeah. No. You know, ain't that ain't gonna happen. I'm not making no background because yeah. No. And that may be user friendly. I absolutely believe you that that is that site is user friendly, but I'm not very user friendly myself. For all those that are out there listening to this podcast, I'm sorry. That this this fucking old man is just fabbling. So, anyway, what are you guys' thoughts?
[01:27:36] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll try not to think. He gets me into too much trouble.
[01:27:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Not about me. We were gonna take the focus off of me now. What's the good news for the day?
[01:27:51] Rich Chelson:
I don't have any. Somebody else should have some good news. I don't have any. I'm sorry. Well, no. You see, I don't have any good news because, one, it was 46 degrees this morning. It was a little chilly. It's well, I do have a little bit of good news because I'm a make some gumbo tomorrow. But then I went to my physical therapy, appointment. Oh, check this shit out. I did not know this was going on. No one told me about this. And, I was sitting out there waiting waiting to go back, and this guy comes out and hollers for me. And I said, yeah.
And I had never seen this guy for. I didn't know who it was. And he took off and got a chair and sat over this one spot. He's like, have a seat here. And I get there, and he sits behind me and puts his thumb on my back. First words out of my mouth was, where's Rachel? Because that was the girl I had been seeing. Right?
[01:28:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:28:52] Rich Chelson:
And it wasn't her hand on my back. It didn't feel right. And and come to find out well well, she's, I guess, a student or whatnot, so it was her last day today. And, she, you know, was going somewhere else, in the VA to, I guess, I guess, continue her learning. And so Right. Yeah. Uh-huh. So I had this new guy, and and I wasn't I wasn't too sure about him. And it was funny. He was he was pressing on my neck. He was using, like, 4 fingers. And I mean, just pressing the fuck out of my neck. And I asked him and I mean, while he's pressing and, I mean, he's pressing hard.
And I just asked him. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm loosening your muscles in your neck. Really? He said, okay. He's like, let me know when, it hurts. Okay. I'll let him go. So I'm like, dude, you ain't even touched my pain level yet. What's up? Finally, after a while, I said, yeah. I'm I'm about tired of it. So so he pressed somewhere else on my neck, and, you know, we were talking. He was kinda okay. And, I I was like, dude, I'm like, what? He's like, you must be in a lot of pain. I'm like, why? He's like, shit. Most people I don't even get half this half of this tension that I'm putting on you, and they're they're screaming and crying. He's like and I'm like, yeah. So he's like, dude, you shouldn't be like this. I said, well, I said Surprise.
This is my pain level. And then then he switches sides finally because, you know, I told him the second place was like, okay. I'm about done with that. And he goes over to my right side, and he fucking presses in the middle of my neck. And, I mean, he is he is strap pressing as hard as he fucking can. And and I'm just sitting there. It's like, okay, dude. You know? And I I let him go for, I don't know, 3, 4 miles just sitting there, just letting him press on my neck. And it's like he's like, does that hurt? And there was one spot he moved or something.
And I said well, I told him just on a regular press, I said, dude, this is a normal, pain level late for me. So, I mean, this is nothing. This is normal. This is everyday shit. He's like, okay. And, and he moved his fingers, and I'm like, yeah. Okay. You're done there. That's good. And then, he pressed on on the second spot on the right side. And this guy just couldn't fucking believe that I just sat there and let him basically press the insides of my neck, press the fuck out of him. And he was like, wow, dude. He's like, yeah. He's like most people like you. They're they're wusses, actually.
He's like, you've taken more pain than anything. I said, no. It just that's just the way it is, man. It's just but this guy was okay, I guess.
[01:32:33] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So he's pressing on your neck Yeah. For what purpose?
[01:32:40] Bryan Goodwin:
To loosen my muscles up. Yeah. Yep. You use, pressure points and and direct, direct pressure to, to break loose, knotted up muscles.
[01:32:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. Did any of your muscle loosen up?
[01:32:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They did for couple hours.
[01:32:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:32:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No. It it it did work. It it it, driving home, I noticed I could I could move my neck a little better. Right now, it's it's, I feel it tightening back up, but it is, you know, but, I don't know. It's just, you know, but yeah, coming home, I did feel it's like, it's like, oh, damn. I can't I can't move my neck a little better. Now now I can't move it like I did earlier, but, yeah. Yeah. He did that and he, pressed on a muscle on my shoulder blade, and it made the top of my shoulder hurt. I mean, really hurt. I don't know how, but he says somehow it's it's it's all interconnected.
Right. Yeah. And and by him pressing on the spot in my shoulder blade, I'm like, yo, dude. What the hell are you doing? I feel that in my shoulder. And he's like, where? And I I pointed to it. I said, it really fucking hurts right now. And he eased the pressure up just a little bit because that one that one really freaking made me take notice. Then he switched shoulders. So, yeah, I got tortured today.
[01:34:37] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:34:39] Rich Chelson:
So but it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't by my pretty girl, Rachel. I was upset. I wanted to be tortured by her. And that's the thing. I don't even know this guy's name.
[01:34:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, are you?
[01:34:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. He didn't even tell me his name. Like, what the hell? You fucking torture me and not even tell me your name? What's up with that? It's like, shit. Come on now. Give me something here. But yeah. No. I did that, and I got a new exercise I gotta do. I don't know if I'm gonna like it, though, but you y'all ought to try it. It's very simple. You take your hand. When you're about to go through a doorway, just stop right there. Put your hand kinda down low right on the door jamb. Right? Yep. And then twist ever so slightly. Twist and let off.
Don't hang on to it. Twist and let off because there's a nerve in there. And if it's tight, you ain't gonna twist very far and your fucking shoulder is gonna feel like like yeah. The the hottest chili pepper in the world ain't got nothing on you. That pain is gonna hurt quick.
[01:36:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. And, So you're twisting your arms, or you're twisting your your body? Or Your body.
[01:36:27] Rich Chelson:
Body. Just just basically place your hand on the door jam down low.
[01:36:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But okay. So is it you put the palm of your hand against the door facing or the back of your hand? Palm of your hand. Okay. So have your hands have your hands palms palms laying out. You got it on the inside of the door jam, and then you're slowly twisting your body.
[01:36:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Just yeah. Twist your body. And if you're doing if you're doing your right hand, you'll twist right or left. Okay. Okay? And then if if you're doing your left hand, you'll twist right. And if if, you're tight, that old boy says you will know it before immediately if it's possible. But yeah. Yeah. And trust me. He had me do it, and I'm like, oh, fuck no, dude. The hell. I just I freaking barely put my hand on that door and just I don't think I moved it, fuck, even a millimeter, and I was like, wow. That was a new pain I hadn't felt. And you'll feel it in your shoulder.
But he says do that couple times a day throughout the day in, over a couple months. He says, believe it or not, it'll ease up. I don't know if I believe him on it, but he says it'll it will. I mean, yeah, try that. Shit, Brian, in the truck, you could use, your seat.
[01:38:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, what I normally do is, like, whenever I'm stretching my back out or whatever. Right. I mean, that's I I normally will just when I'm sitting down, I will make sure my get my thigh about, try to get my thigh as as parallel to the ground as I can. Mhmm. And then I'll twist. You know, I'll twist 1 first to the left until I it go as far as I can, and then I'll twist to the right. And back before I got myself all nice and back, I could actually do it. And I would sit there and I would twist, and I'd get I'd jump the back, and I'd turn the other way around, jump the back. And then I would twist my and then I'd put the other, put the other leg in the same position, and I'd twist again. And, you know, I'd get I'd pretty much get the whole back popped and stuff. And then if I was going into bed, I'd I'd piss the wife off because I'd go and I'd stretch, and I would just raise my leg up. But because I was twisting myself around like I was, I'd get a good old low back pop going on before I go to bed. So Right. And, no, that's fine. But but, see, this isn't
[01:39:25] Rich Chelson:
to pop your back or nothing. This is just to, I guess I guess, work that nerve and and make it not as tight in your shoulder. Right. And it actually, over time, gives you more more flexibility Right. Is is is is the way I understand it. You know? All I know is right now yeah. No. There's no flexibility in me.
[01:39:52] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm not And I'm not really well, still not fully understanding how you do it because, I mean Well, okay. Okay. Okay. In your truck, stand up right now. Stand up. Alright. I'll I'll grab my microphone so we can still talk in, with quality here. Alright. So I'm standing, and I've got my right hand. I'm standing right next to, my my, one of the one of the cabinets there. So and I've got
[01:40:18] Rich Chelson:
okay. You're I could stand. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Do you have a lower cabinet?
[01:40:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, I've got a whole well, I've got a from I've got about a 5 and a half foot tall cabinet.
[01:40:35] Rich Chelson:
Okay. So from okay. Okay. As you're standing right there Yep. Put your right hand on that cabinet right below your waist and just Okay. So now, again, this is just me needing to know the specifics.
[01:40:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. So do am I needing to have it to where put my hand on the, right below my waist by be close enough to the cabinet to where basically my whole arm's touching, or do I need to be No. No. Just just your hand is touching the cabinet. Okay. So I need to step away far enough to where it's just my hand. Alright.
[01:41:10] Rich Chelson:
K. So we're doing that. Okay. Now now from from that point right there, K? Just twist left just a little bit. You should At the waist?
[01:41:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Okay. Nothing there. There's there's I'm not feeling anything. That's why I'm asking. That's why I was kinda wanting to check and see. I mean, when I try to put my hand flat, I mean, there's a there's a bit of tension, but that's also because my hand is Right there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Put your hand flat and and and and it tension. But again, it's not if when I turn left, I mean, that all that tension goes away. And when I turn right, I mean, yeah, I'm I'm turning the turning my arm, you know, basically see if, if I rotate it a 180 degrees, then my palm was out. So I'm try whenever I turn to the right, all of a sudden, I'm turning my my my arm beyond that 180 degrees.
[01:42:13] Rich Chelson:
Now That's The, the palm of your hand Yep. Should be flat against your cabinet.
[01:42:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So here's another little detail that because, again, my the way my the weird way my brain thinks. Alright? Do I turn my hand to where my, where the palm is facing frontwards first before it goes to the, to the outside? Or do I go turn my hand to the where it's going back and then out to the outside? No. Take your
[01:42:47] Rich Chelson:
hand, take your palm, put it on the big fat face of your cabinet.
[01:42:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. But I be but again, do I are you talking about because I you get different reactions. If I turn my hand counter clock or clockwise, I'm gonna have a different reaction than if I go counterclockwise.
[01:43:07] Rich Chelson:
No. Brian. Brian. Just just just stand there just stand there between your cabinets. K. Okay. Bring your right arm out. Put your palm against your cabinet.
[01:43:19] Bryan Goodwin:
But which direction do you want me to turn my palm? Because it makes 2 different different changes. So if I go My palm goes flat against the cabinet. Okay. Now I want you to do that. Take your hand and put your palm flat against the wall. Which direction did you just turn your hand? Or did you turn it clockwise or counterclockwise?
[01:43:40] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean? I I I didn't turn it anyway.
[01:43:44] Bryan Goodwin:
So you put the back of your hand against the wall?
[01:43:48] Rich Chelson:
No. Are are you facing forward like like the truck is facing?
[01:43:54] Bryan Goodwin:
I have got got the cabinet on the right hand side of my body right now.
[01:44:00] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:44:02] Bryan Goodwin:
So the back of my hand is facing the cabinet. Okay? So if I wanna put my back of my hand or if I wanna put my the palm of my hand on there, I have to turn it. Do I turn it clockwise or counterclockwise?
[01:44:20] Rich Chelson:
Brian, turn your video on. Let me see this because it's I'm I'm I'm getting confused.
[01:44:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Hold up. I've got too many fucking wires here. Goddamn.
[01:44:37] Rich Chelson:
Leave it to me. I know.
[01:44:39] Bryan Goodwin:
It's okay. Let's see. Toop toop. Bring this back up.
[01:44:43] Unknown:
Alright.
[01:44:44] Bryan Goodwin:
No deal. Let's go vertical and get my ear put back in my ear. There we go. Alright. Turn the camera off. Alright. Here we are. So we got this right here. Okay. So,
[01:44:56] Rich Chelson:
again Okay. Woah. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You are facing the bed. Yes. You are facing okay. Do a 180.
[01:45:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So put your handle put your arm away from
[01:45:13] Rich Chelson:
Now now do you have a cabinet on your right side or on your left? Well, you you have the one on the left side. But
[01:45:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But if you want the if you want the cabinet to be on the right hand side because No. No. North, south, east, or west, it doesn't matter. Right. No. No. What
[01:45:33] Rich Chelson:
what I'm saying is whether you're going through a door or anything but in a truck like this. Okay? In fact, actually, you could back up, back your whole body up, take about a half or a step back where your driver's seat is at. Right. And on the backside of that cabinet, put your right hand with your palm. Hang on a second. I'm trying to show you without my video on. With your palm right behind right between your driver's seat and your cabinet right there.
[01:46:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So okay. Now now I got what you said, because you're saying do this.
[01:46:17] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Put down. Put your arm down. This is what Okay. Okay. This is what the physical therapist showed me. Okay. Okay? And So And then and then twist left. K. No tension. No nothing?
[01:46:35] Unknown:
No.
[01:46:37] Bryan Goodwin:
That's why I was asking because the way you were saying it was take your hand and put it against the the the deal. And so And did you turn your hand clockwise? Or did you turn your hand counterclockwise?
[01:46:52] Rich Chelson:
Right. And see, it it wasn't it wasn't working on my head, and that's why that's why I was like but, no, you just it's just like you're walking through a door. You know, when you go to touch the sides of a doorway, which a lot of us do Right. Your palms come out like this. Right? Right. Just put them down here just just, below your weight your waist and, like, with your right one. See, I can't do it. I I do that. I, yeah, I don't I don't I don't even twist, but that much. And and, yeah, it's I'm screaming.
[01:47:32] Bryan Goodwin:
See, I can I can break my arm? The only place that I can't reach is right in the middle of my back. So Oh, yeah. No.
[01:47:42] Rich Chelson:
I haven't been able to do that for 15 or 20 years. I've been a So that's why that's why I have a back scratcher in the truck. So Right. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. But but, yeah, you you you yeah. He was saying you do that with with both hands. And, I mean, you obviously don't have to worry about it. Yeah. But, you know, people like me, yeah, we have to worry about it.
[01:48:09] Bryan Goodwin:
See, I think the Army is just a lot harder on you guys than the Navy is. So I'm kinda gathering that, dude. I mean, that's that's why whenever you're saying, like, you need to go you'll get your VA stuff. It's just like, well, why? I mean, right now, the worst that's happening is, yeah, I've got a sore my shoulder's sore, but that's because I sleep like this all the time. And so I've I've I've crammed my my shoulder up and and But but And that's more that's more Great Dane induced than anything else. The thing is, though, are you sure? I'm positive. I didn't have it until just 6 months ago.
[01:48:51] Rich Chelson:
I mean, you you are probably right. Okay. I'm not I'm not saying you're not, but at the same time, it it could be from an injury you sustained. I mean,
[01:49:04] Bryan Goodwin:
the way it sound The closest that, of any type of shoulder damage that I could have done thanks to the navy was because of something I was doing in the shower.
[01:49:12] Rich Chelson:
I mean,
[01:49:13] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't think they would And I don't think that would be considered cheerful.
[01:49:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Right? Damn. That's but that's yeah. Yeah. I probably should've gone into the navy.
[01:49:30] Bryan Goodwin:
So I'm And I mean, and the other I mean, I've got that, then I've got tennis elbow on my other, on the other. And again, that is again more, I I attribute it more towards the fact of of of thanks to Rain and Watson because they have both started trying to sleep right next to my head. Right. And a Great Dane and a sheep a doodle take up a lot of space. And so I honestly I seriously I sleep on about 6 inches of my bed. It's about that wide.
[01:50:04] Rich Chelson:
You know, I love animals. I love dogs. I love all kinds of dogs, and I know your dogs are lovable. I'd kick them the fuck off. It's like, no. This is my bed. And Rain would give you such a look
[01:50:18] Bryan Goodwin:
that you would go I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're No. But you had to go. Yeah. You would sit there. You would just, oh, I'm sorry. She she that she would cuss you out too. She'd be like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. That's That I can believe.
[01:50:35] Duuude-Ron :
That's when that's when you just escort her out of the room and shut the door.
[01:50:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, no. No. No. And I think actually, I think Rain has probably got a little bit of a doggy autism because this dog does not understand shut doors. You shut a door, she's going to make sure that door is open. She does not like doors to be shut. It is she has got OCD or something. I don't know what it is, but when it comes to when it comes to closed doors, if she can't pass through it on her own, she is going to throw a fit about that. And it will be paw that paw that paw that paw that paw that paw that paw that. And you're just like going, dude, knock it off. And until the door is open.
And her patience outlast my patience every time.
[01:51:34] Duuude-Ron :
So the dog whisper would not be able to whisper to you very easily?
[01:51:39] Bryan Goodwin:
No. He had to be able to whisper to her all well, he couldn't whisper to her very well because she's deaf also. So Wow. And I think that's probably the biggest problem that I have with her is if we were to have a dog because Watson easy. You say set, and he's like, alright. Sure. Uh-huh. And flops on his butt. But but Rain, you know, you have to you have to first get her attention. She's if she's excited, God help you because, you know, that's that there's there's £95 of of dog bouncing around you, isn't it? And and want your attention. So which is funny because everybody keeps going, and that's all she's at she is? It's like, yeah. Yeah. She's a little dane.
She's not a great dane. She's a she's a
[01:52:23] Duuude-Ron :
small dane. Great. She's not a great dane. She's a grand Dane or a Good Dane. She's a Good Dane. Yeah. Good Dane. Not a Great Dane. In the ass Dane. Good Dane. Sometimes.
[01:52:36] Bryan Goodwin:
But by damn, I'm glad winter's coming because now I can actually sleep under the blankets with her. So
[01:52:42] Rich Chelson:
man. Yeah. See, that's
[01:52:44] Bryan Goodwin:
yeah. I don't Oh. That dog. No. Mister mister, I'm cold when it gets below 85 degrees. Nuh-uh. No. No. No. No. No. No. You would love to have this dog under the covers with you because one, she lays down. She goes from the, from the head of the bed going. So first, she's she lays in bed backwards. Alright? Okay. Her head is pointed towards the foot of the bed, and her butt's pointed towards the head of the bed. Yes, sir. So you gotta cut her butt is just the right size to cuddle with. And you just kinda lay over and you just, you cuddle up with her butt. I haven't, if, if she farts, thankfully I'm already unconscious, so I don't have anything.
So I just sleep through it, But it's just great. You just lay there and you just, oh, you you know, in the dead with those, that, that really hard cold snap that we had last year. That was that was perfect. I mean, just go to bed, she would crawl underneath the covers, and you would I just cut her curl up with that, with her butt. And, hey, man, I slept like a flipping baby. Damn. Had my one foot hanging out hanging out from underneath the covers because, well, you know, it it that's just kosher, and I I I'm not gonna suffocate to death.
[01:54:07] Unknown:
So
[01:54:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I don't I don't know about that. I don't know about that. But Yeah. It's I mean, it'd been chilly, but I I ain't well, no. It's it's yeah. It's yeah. It's been it's been let's well, I I was I was actually thinking about it. No one informed me it was gonna be this cold this early, so I was not prepared for it.
[01:54:43] Duuude-Ron :
Well, next year, you'll know. Here comes October. You know what? You tomorrow, you better get fucking prepared.
[01:54:50] Rich Chelson:
Because it's I because I'm serious. It's it's like this is the first October that I've ever seen it this cold in last, what, 15 years.
[01:55:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, and that's this is just one of those, and this actually isn't cold. This is just a nice cool down. This is this is that, what it, how is it in the in the seasons of of the south? You have summer, late summer, Indian summer, almost looking like it's fall, return of summer, Summer's still here. 3 days of fall, one day of winter, 2 days of spring, and your summer again.
[01:55:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, I can believe that. Everybody. Hey, you see, that's like all, well, the rest of this week into next week. The lows are, well, the lows are in the mid fifties in the high forties to mid fifties all week long. And the highs are
[01:55:58] Duuude-Ron :
low What was it in Missouri in October?
[01:56:02] Rich Chelson:
95.
[01:56:05] Bryan Goodwin:
And at night, it's getting down to 24, 25. Not in October. No. Yeah. October. There was a couple times. It wouldn't be all all wouldn't be all month long cold. This is just one of those nicely. Hey. Congratulations. The the global warming thing is nowhere near as bad as everybody wants to think type of thing. So No. Last year,
[01:56:27] Rich Chelson:
last, yeah, last year, October. No. It was still it was still 85, 90 degrees during the day. Lows were in the sixties. We didn't see cold temperatures until I think it was, like, right after Thanksgiving was, when it started getting down in the twenties.
[01:56:56] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So you said so you said that you weren't prepared. Do you have a jacket do you have a jacket in your closet?
[01:57:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. I got a You're prepared. I got a jacket, and I got a hoodie. Right. Then you're prepared. But, dude, what I was saying is I was not prepared to break them out this early. I was thinking Well you know, maybe later on in November. You know? But not before I win.
[01:57:26] Duuude-Ron :
In 3 days, just be prepared to put them right back into the closet.
[01:57:34] Rich Chelson:
Swear. I swear. Okay.
[01:57:38] Bryan Goodwin:
According to well, I went ahead and looked up on the, on the, over at weather spark.com, and they got all of that information for, like, Oklahoma. Okay. And, the hourly temperatures in Oklahoma in Oklahoma City were typically it would start out, at the beginning of, of of October. It was, cool to comfortable, which was, at night, it was cool to comfortable, which was anywhere from about, 55 degrees, 75 degrees. And then it would dries all the way up to hot, which is typically about, about 85 to 95 degrees. And we had instances of that. There was a couple of oh, what the fuck was this? What the hell? Goddamn it.
[01:58:34] Rich Chelson:
There.
[01:58:37] Duuude-Ron :
Hold up.
[01:58:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So while you're trying to look that up Well, it other time, I was like had a fucking pop up bullshit come on going, hey. You're you're a you're a Verizon customer. You probably wanna know about this. And it's like, no. I don't care the fucking no shit about this. Yeah. You're one of a 100 I don't know. It's it's scam bullshit.
[01:59:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Fuck off. Alright.
[01:59:03] Bryan Goodwin:
So but anyhow, there was there was several days in there where it got down to cold, which was, around the, the about 15th to, 15th to 20th of, of October. We got down to very cold, which is about 32 to 45. And then right around, October 29th, 30th or so, we actually got into freezing temperatures. So it was between 15 and 32 degrees. So, I mean and that's Oklahoma City, where we had those. So
[01:59:40] Rich Chelson:
I'm looking at Kirksville, Missouri, which is the closest one to me, okay, for this day, October 17, 2023. Now it did say that morning of October 17th, it was 35 degrees. And then it warmed up to, like, 68, 69, and the low that night was 47. So wherever I was at, and I had to be up there in Missouri, I probably didn't come out the freaking house Nope. Until, yeah. It's about noon.
[02:00:26] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:00:28] Bryan Goodwin:
K. And, October for, for pass down in sleepy little town of Pascagoula. Yeah. You had, 80 degree temperatures all month long until the last day, and then it got down to it got a high of 60. But you had a minimum temperature come Everybody in the fucking advertisements. You had, looks like October 18th, you actually dropped all the way down to 0.
[02:01:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think that's a lie.
[02:01:06] Bryan Goodwin:
That's No. No. You have freezing temperatures down there. I mean, there's times where even Florida will catch 32 degrees or lower. 32 degrees, but 0 degrees? No. What? Well, look at, look at Houston during the great freeze of 2021. They had minus. Oh, yeah. It does happen.
[02:01:32] Rich Chelson:
No. I I No. No. I'm not saying it don't happen, but, yeah, that's, you know, that's okay. My ass no. My ass ain't going outside.
[02:01:42] Duuude-Ron :
She's not. And and we know that you don't like we know that you don't like the cold, but you're used to the cold.
[02:01:52] Bryan Goodwin:
No. He's not used to the cold. No. Especially because he he was complaining when it got down to 55 degrees just a couple days ago. Yeah. No. I'm talking about when he was up in Missouri. When he's up in He wasn't used to the cold even then. He was stuck in his house.
[02:02:06] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Yeah. Just think of it like this. When it gets to be 32 degrees, the people in Pascagoul or wherever the hell you live at will lose their fucking minds.
[02:02:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't doubt it.
[02:02:26] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I don't like the cold. I grew up in the cold in Nebraska. I'm not gonna hang around where there's white air any place, hopefully. But, you know, no. I don't like the cold. Yeah. Can I live through the cold? Yeah. I can live through it. You know, it is what it is. But these motherfucking people down here, when it gets to fucking be freezing, lose their fucking minds.
[02:02:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. It is incredible. Because they have the attention span of a gnat. That's I mean If
[02:03:08] Duuude-Ron :
if we're lucky.
[02:03:09] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, I mean and that can't keep focus very long. I mean, shit, a goldfish remembers more shit than most of people do nowadays.
[02:03:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. They could be a dragonfly, and you see how they fly. They're just all over the damn place.
[02:03:28] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:03:30] Duuude-Ron :
Talk about attention span. Gee. I wanna fly straight. No. Left. No. Right. No. Left. No. Right. Up. Down. No. Backwards. What the fuck am I doing? And then rinse and repeat.
[02:03:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, and and I'm bummed. I didn't get no pecans off my pea can tree. Aw. Yeah. I, I I believe say, I was told pecan picking season was November 1st. Well, I think I was misinformed because I went out the other day to look at my pecan tree because I was expecting them to start to be falling here soon. Right? I didn't see a damn one on, on, on the tree and I only found a couple holes on the ground.
[02:04:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Just to let you know, I don't know if you realize it or not, but pecans have cycles. One season you will get crap for pecans. The next one you're gonna think you're drowning in freaking pecans. And then the next one, there's not gonna be anything. Okay. Well, either way,
[02:04:46] Rich Chelson:
earlier this summer, I had pecans on my tree.
[02:04:50] Bryan Goodwin:
You may have also had squirrels. Well, I've got an accident. Sneaking or people sneaking into your backyard at night and running off like guns. Well, you know, that That and those are some sneaky old ladies that'll do that too.
[02:05:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, because because see, that's the thing. I didn't find many holes or any, you know, many shells or whatnot. And, then also I looked it up and, pecan picking season for down here is from August to November. So either well, I I would have to say between the squirrels and the little old ladies or whoever, that's probably where my PKs went. Good chance. Damn ladies. And You you're gonna have to go get and enjoy your pecans over at the local Baptist church during their during, potluck supper
[02:05:50] Bryan Goodwin:
season.
[02:05:51] Rich Chelson:
Bad thing is is they're probably gonna sell me back my pecans.
[02:05:55] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Don't. You go to a potluck. You go there in the potluck. That's all of it's free. Yeah. And they already go to the potluck. Go to down home southern, potluck dinner?
[02:06:07] Rich Chelson:
I wanted to make a pecan pie out of my pecans. That'll happen next year.
[02:06:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what? They probably they probably already beat you to the punch. You just like you like Brian said, you just have to go to a potluck and and let them have your pecan pie already made.
[02:06:26] Bryan Goodwin:
That you're probably gonna find out you don't have you've got, got native pecans instead of paper shell.
[02:06:33] Rich Chelson:
No. I've got I think I've got paper shell because I've got because, I saw I saw some of the, saw some of the,
[02:06:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Shells?
[02:06:49] Rich Chelson:
The shells off, you know, without the husk. Uh-huh. The outer shell. And, yeah, it looks like the paper shells is what it looks like. So yeah. I don't know, though. Either way, next year, put signs up. Leave my pecans alone or or just or just wind up, staying up through the night.
[02:07:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Sitting there with a passenger. You don't want to you don't wanna kill them, so you're just sitting up there with the with the your little red rider BB gun. Just No. No. No. See see see this is what I do.
[02:07:27] Rich Chelson:
I will sit under my carport with my wagon, and I'll wait. I'll let them pick them all up. And then as they're as they're walking back out to their car, I'm gonna charge them I'm I'm I'm gonna charge them a tow of every pig hand they picked up from my yard and and and the yard next door that you're told to leave. Otherwise, we don't have a problem. That's gonna work once and and no one's gonna come back again.
[02:08:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, if you let them keep 25% of it, they'll probably go ahead and go pick them up just so they can get some.
[02:08:21] Rich Chelson:
You know, that is an idea. That way you don't have to do all the hard work. Oh, wait. Wait. Isn't that called the bad, crony capitalism?
[02:08:34] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. Crony capitalism's when the government goes, you make pecan. You're going to be the one who all controls all the, you're the one that's gonna help us do, set up the the, the regulations on pecan picking. And so, yeah, when the government when the government and a, and a company join forces, that's crony capitalism. Regular capitalism, or known as a laissez faire capitalism, hands off capitalism is where you just let the capitalistic system work itself to, work itself out. There's not gonna be there's going to be, monopolies through it. And monopolies are good because monopolies are from whoever does it the best.
But they gonna have to keep the prices low because if they don't, then someone else is gonna come under and, and undercut them.
[02:09:37] Rich Chelson:
Right. Which that's, that's way life's been. That's how it normally runs.
[02:09:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. And so if you're, if they try to cut corners and they start making things a little cheaper and a little brattier and a little, a little less quality, then someone's going to also come through and they're gonna, they're gonna edge them out. The only that's why, that's why, telephones didn't advance in their, in, in, in technology for the first, like 50 so years. However, 30, 40 years or however long it was from the time Alexander Graham Bell made his telephone. That's why you ended up you didn't buy your telephone when you first it was like the cable box. Yeah. It was random. You you bought that hard rubber telephone and or you didn't even buy it. You rented it. Yeah.
And it wasn't until the, the dissolution of, of Ma Bell that all of a sudden people were like, oh, Hey, we can, we can make our own telephones now. And all of a sudden you had Snoopy phones. You had you had, Mickey Mouse phones. You had the clear phones. It's had with all the all the the cool things that you had the French phone that was that long, big old loop to loop thing. He had all these other phones. Yeah. The What? The phone that was, that where the hang up was, the inside of the, of the of the of the of the dial. Or I don't know if you remember that. It looked like it almost looked like a freaking, hair. It was normal shaped, handle, but at the bottom, it was really big and wide around.
And you picked it up and as you turned it over, the dial was on there. So you'd have to, but inside the middle of it was the receiver or was the, was the hangup receiver. So when you set it down, it would push that button and it would hang the phone up. So you got really you actually got to when you slammed the phone down, there was a really satisfying
[02:11:52] Duuude-Ron :
phone. Right. So Or or the lips phone?
[02:11:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. The famous lips phone. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Was that a great example of that? Was that modeled, after Mick Jagger's lips? No, because it was just the lips and it didn't have the tongue. Yeah, no, I, it just, yeah, that would, that would, that would've been awesome though. If they had that with the tongue hanging out and you could actually, that would be the receiver. So you're like, click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click.
[02:12:27] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know, I I you know, honestly, I think and and, I mean, I could be way off, but I don't think I'm too far off. The reason why phones didn't advance like they did is because, it was con well, it was it was one controlled by a monopoly.
[02:12:44] Bryan Goodwin:
And It was controlled by a government induced monopoly. It was that was the true
[02:12:52] Rich Chelson:
now. Because if if Yeah. No. It's the remember
[02:12:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Graham Bell was like I remember I'm the one that strung up all the yeah. But he he was the one who made the the, some the the case of I'm the one that strung up all the wire. I get, I get to control that. And so, and as a means to, so they didn't he, he again, crony capitalism, he's the one that said, I'll make up the regulations for this. And they basically made the regulations so that nobody else could actually start it up, start up a phone company. And he had it all. Right. And so, yeah, that's crony capitalism. That's when monopolies go bad is when it's government controlled monopolies. That's why you go into Dallas and you've only got Spectrum as a as a cables, as a cable provider.
[02:13:44] Rich Chelson:
What?
[02:13:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, I don't know if it's Spectrum, but you've got you've got just you've got basically only have one cable provider for, like, the Dallas area.
[02:13:55] Rich Chelson:
Now you've got satellite. Those are your other choices. You've got satellite. You got Dish. Yeah. No. No. No. The reason I'm saying is is most of your large cities like that, they've got No. 5, 10 other different companies.
[02:14:10] Bryan Goodwin:
No. They don't. Because,
[02:14:13] Rich Chelson:
you know, I mean, you know, I mean, you know, Dallas, I don't know. But but, you know, I'm saying, like like, up in the morning,
[02:14:20] Bryan Goodwin:
you know, all those all those phone lines and, you know No. No. No. Yeah. You're you're talking phone lines. That's completely different than the coax, the cables. The phone the the fiber that you're putting in, those are all different internet service providers.
[02:14:39] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But okay. And, in a Des Moines, you've got Cox, you've got, MediaCom and, and
[02:14:49] Bryan Goodwin:
And I bet you Cox only covers a certain portion of Des Moines. No.
[02:14:55] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. You know, you, you see, you, you see what's funny though, is all those lines, all those lines, except for the fiber, the new fiber stuff going in, all those old lines have been bought and sold so many times over the years. They really don't know who owns them. No. They don't. And but,
[02:15:18] Bryan Goodwin:
it's like, it's well, I mean, like in, in Oklahoma, they, the the phone companies are actually set up as little kingdoms these days. So you have pioneer. You have Dobson. Windstream went through and bought up a whole bunch of them. So you got the in in Western Oklahoma, you got a lot of Windstream, as actual landline phone company. They're the they're the the doing the ones who are doing DSL. And, and pioneers realizes like, oh, wait a minute. You know, DSL, that's okay. They they did DSL for a while. They did cellular too for for a good while too. And they after, after, COVID, I guess they kinda were like, you know what? It's time to go into into fiber, and they've basically have been doing going into fiber, Dobson cellular, or what used to be Dobson cellular is now Dobson fiber. And so they're doing fiber a lot. So Right. Yeah. And and little canoe sitting there going, well, we got DSL. We could do a 100, we could do a 100 megs down and 25 megs up. So we're all day.
[02:16:33] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. But but you see, now now let me ask you this. I mean, this is a possibility not saying this is what happened. But do you think Windstream came in and bought those companies but left them as their instead of putting a Windstream name on them so as not having a monopoly because now, you know, it's illegal to have a monopoly.
[02:16:59] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. There was because, that's actually I I actually went to the whenever I was working for ITITL, which was a little Internet service, tech company in Elk City, I actually went to, the CEO of Pioneer's house. Beautiful house. Nice house. Awesome house. And, and, got, set some stuff up for, for him there at their house. And so No. I mean, I And it's like I said, it's just it was it just broke up into little into little kingdoms. And so there was there were so you had well, it's kinda like whenever I was growing up, whoever was doing our our phone service for a long while, I could call in my in my hometown, 2,000 people, I could call them.
And we were even in the eighties, we were still doing 5 digit phone numb phone calls. You could just dial 85564. Right. Eventually, it became, but the only other town you could call in that area was Dumas. And that was it. You could call someone in your in in Sunray. You call someone in Dumas. Anything else that was long distance per minute? And I remember, and that, that was a sorry thing because all my girlfriends were out of town. Right. And not even in doom is out of town. They were in Borger and Amarillo.
[02:18:45] Rich Chelson:
So, and Perryton, Perryton, can't forget Perryton. You had to have 3 jobs, didn't you? Johnathan: no, but,
[02:18:54] Bryan Goodwin:
but at the same time, I mean, I did work, but, that was to pay the, pay the phone bill pretty much. Yeah. And so that I could actually drive I could drive my little, my little, little 72 Ford Maverick over there. So, and I love that little car. That was my favorite. That's probably about still my favorite little car. Damn thing squealed on me every damn time if I was running late. Because if I, if I was running late and I got over 55 miles an hour on because this is back when the speed limit or in in Texas was still 55 miles an hour. It wasn't gonna jump up till, like, I think 94. I think it's when it jumped. It climbed up to 70. Yeah. Or even though it should climb up to 65 and and 65 during the day, 55 at night. Yep.
[02:19:43] Rich Chelson:
I remember them days, man. I I remember them days. I mean I might still couldn't drive freaking 50
[02:19:50] Bryan Goodwin:
over 55 for another, like, 5, 6 years. Yeah. Well well yeah. No.
[02:19:56] Rich Chelson:
Not not legally we couldn't. Not legally. Yeah. We did. I mean, yeah, we yeah. We we'd fly through the hell out of Texas, but, yeah, Texas didn't like it too much. No.
[02:20:09] Bryan Goodwin:
They But, anyhow, if I drove too fast in that in that little maverick, though, it would tattle on me because moment I get home, I think, you know, I got it. I got it. I'd creep into the turn my headlights off and come coasting up into it's put it into neutral and coast up into the driveway into my spot, get myself stopped, turn the car off, and it
[02:20:30] Unknown:
Oh, damn. Goddamn it.
[02:20:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Never fails. Never failed. And of course, I also learned a real cool trick on those old automatics on how you could actually make the car backfire. Now what good on the car, but at the same time, it was it was a lot of fun if you wanted to scare the crap out of people. So you'd go off and you'd shift it down into 1, and you'd get the RPMs up pretty high and and go for a little ways, and then throw it up into neutral and turn the car off, count to 5, and then turn it back on. Mm-mm. Don't even have to turn it on. You just turn the ignition, to on. And every time you would get blam blam blam.
[02:21:27] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was you see this you see that's why that's why I love the old cars. There was so Oh, yeah. There was so much you could do, and you couldn't hurt them.
[02:21:38] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. I mean, they're rolling tanks. That's Detroit d, Detroit
[02:21:43] Rich Chelson:
steel all the way. That oh, man. I tell you. Rolling iron. Yeah. Like that Lincoln mark 5 I saw.
[02:21:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. All 7 miles out. Dang.
[02:21:52] Rich Chelson:
That was I I mean, that that thing screamed fucking Detroit. I mean, it, you know, it it it seriously took me a good minute to get past him because he was just that freaking long. I'm just like, oh, hell yeah. You know, I I freaking hadn't seen a car like that in
[02:22:13] Bryan Goodwin:
years. Yeah. My friend had a, had a, Pontiac Catalina. Oh, man. And the socks were wore out on it. Oh, that's that booty. Oh, hell. Yeah. It was awesome because and it was we called it the land yacht because there was a there's a dip on one end of of the of the drag. Uh-huh. And he would hit that thing doing 30, and it would just sit there and rock up and down the whole way.
[02:22:43] Rich Chelson:
And and and for and for and for those of you that do not know what we mean by hooty or this, like like Brian just explained, when you'd hit a bump and it was like he was riding on the ocean in the waves He's going over ways. That's for miles. For miles. And and you and you didn't even have a touch of gas because the moo the, momentum of the car kept you going. Yeah. It was amazing. It was a beautiful
[02:23:12] Bryan Goodwin:
oh, I love John's car. So It was great. It was great. I bet my my my friend Butch, he had a 50 something Cadillac, and we would put 20 kids in that damn car.
[02:23:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh,
[02:23:24] Bryan Goodwin:
dude. There was And have room. I mean, we Yeah. We had room for for other people if they wanted to. You know? We'd have the whole class of 92 in there and just
[02:23:33] Rich Chelson:
and have a good old time. You know? Right. Oh, yeah. Those you say that you say that's that's just when life was fun, man. Oh, yeah. Fine.
[02:23:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Even More kids these days, they're stuck in their it's stuck in their house. They don't even know what they're missing.
[02:23:48] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Or or well, you you know, they they they they freaking get these brand new cars or if they get a driver's license. A lot of them don't Don't even bother anymore. No.
[02:24:01] Bryan Goodwin:
It's easier just to get an Uber.
[02:24:03] Rich Chelson:
There yeah. This I in fact, I know a guy that that goes to work in an Uber, and he's a superintendent of a construction site.
[02:24:16] Bryan Goodwin:
He'd Well, he probably also has the money. He just, you know, it's cheaper just to drive.
[02:24:21] Rich Chelson:
He doesn't have a He does not have a driver's license. We'll not get one. See, I don't understand that. I I don't either. I don't either. No. It's I I mean and and and then and then when he gets yelled at for either being late or or whatnot like this, he's like, well, well, my Uber didn't do right. And, you know, I'm sorry, but if you're a superintendent on a construction site, those words do not sit well with any freaking buddy. They're gonna call you a dumbass and they don't care what you say. Right. You've lost all respect. And that's the thing. He could get a work truck.
Yeah. He a company paid for work truck with company paid for gas. There you go. Yeah. He refuses to get a driver's license because, well, he's a liberal.
[02:25:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Now, I mean I am not gonna be responsible for the destruction of the of the planet, so I'm gonna put that Well, I I don't think I don't think he's that bad, but,
[02:25:39] Rich Chelson:
there I remember I remember, say this guy, this was fuck. 5, 6 years ago? 7? 7 years ago, something like that. Anyway, he came over. This this is when I was living in Arkansas. He came over, brought some whiskey. He says, Richard. I said, what? He says, you drink this? I said, well, fuck yeah. I will. He's like, dude. We're gonna talk. I said, alright. What we gonna talk about? He said, politics. I said, porting land, buddy. By the time I got done with him and that bottle, it was late. It was really late. And and I had thoroughly schooled him on on on his thought processes. I mean, I blew everything he brought up. I blew it out the water and and and and showed him.
I proved it to him, backed it up. Okay? Right. Heather seems to prove it. I didn't I didn't just, you know, whatever. I I mean, I proved it to him. That's the last time. I mean, when when I see him now, he's cordial, but that's as far as it goes. He will not he will not in fact in fact, shortly after we had that, conversation, his mother was up and he decided to bring some now now he bring brought this stuff up. I didn't start none of this. I was trying to stay out of it and and be good, but he brought this up. And it was something that that had to be going on, you know, with the government and all like this.
And and I sat and listened to his argument and all about it. He got done, and I turned around, and I just schooled him again right in front of his mama.
[02:27:45] Bryan Goodwin:
And
[02:27:47] Rich Chelson:
mama couldn't even protect him. Now the thing is, mom looked at him and said, Jonathan, he's right. That ended all conversations between me and him. And I you see, that's I didn't do it to embarrass him, you know, have him embarrassed, you know, in front of his mom. I I was just trying to educate the young man. Right. I I was just I was just I was just trying to show him that, dude, your way of saying wrong thinking. Is is is not right. You know? You were thinking like a liberal. And I'm like, this is this is not working. And I showed him where, what, when, where, everything, and he couldn't take it.
And so yeah. So I mean, I mean, man, they you know, I mean, I see him. I'll say, hey. How are you doing, John? How's the job going? And that's about it. You know? We don't, yeah, we don't talk no more. And then, by god, he thought he thought, I'm a buy the whiskey. I I I'm gonna talk with him. I'm a get at least 1 or 2 points. And his brother, my Brian, told him, dude, don't don't go there. Go there, dude. He's like, no, dude. Don't. And then when he brought the whiskey over, Brian's like, fuck, Richard.
[02:29:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-uh, dude. Yeah. Be easy on him. Be easy on him, though. It's game on, dude. It's game on, bro. It's like, fuck.
[02:29:22] Rich Chelson:
And so, yeah, it just but, you know and that's, you know, that's the thing. You know? I don't know everything. I ain't gonna know everything. But still, as a matter of fact, don't don't come up trying to bring some shit that isn't is is not real. You know? Don't don't try and say, well well, this is the way this went when that's not how it went. Right. You know, bring facts. Bring the facts. If you bring the facts and show me I'm wrong, I'll be the first one to fucking admit I'm wrong. You know? Right. I have a hard time believing that, but it's true. I will I will believe it, and I will amend my thought process.
But if you come at me with, conjecture and, you know, what what everyone else around you thinks and not and no facts, I'm gonna destroy you.
[02:30:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. That was kind of the, I've I had something similar. I had a, one of my, kids, they have a friend, and their their friend is a I said, what is it? Neighbor he's, he works in neighborhood planning for, for a small for the town they live in. K? Okay. So you see what direction that route goes. When it's neighborhood planning, instead of just letting neighborhoods go as they are, you know, they they gotta have you gotta have planning. So, so, essentially, he is a a neighborhood, a community organizer. It'd be another way to look at him. So He's a young Obama.
[02:31:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It well, sorry. Did I say that out loud?
[02:31:12] Bryan Goodwin:
And, but it's but it's funny because at first, I I saw him. He he kept popping up on the on the people you may know. And I I knew who he was, but just because just from, the fact that he showed up at my at my daughter's, baby shower and stuff. Him and his girlfriend had shown up there, and I was like, oh, okay. So got to know him, got to meet him, talk to him, blah blah blah. Didn't really anything nothing beyond, hey. How are you doing? Yada yada yada, weather, plants, and all that type of stuff. And so face I saw him on Facebook several times. Like, no. I'm don't wanna be the weird guy that falls in with the, with the kids. And then I finally was like, you know what? Screw it. Let's let's follow him. I and see what he's, what he's like and stuff like that. Yeah.
Rheem and liberal, screaming liberal. And, and so
[02:32:07] Rich Chelson:
Well, well, when you said neighborhood planner,
[02:32:10] Bryan Goodwin:
that that just screamed liberal to me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It does. But it it did I didn't even realize what he did until after I we had friended each other on Facebook. So it was like, okay. Cool. And really, at first off, did not see much of anything from it. Until he made some comment about, about, you know, comprehensive, need comprehensive and smart, gun regulations. And I was like, oh, okay. Okay. Oh, I know I know what he is. So I'd poke back. I was like, oh, well. And so blah blah blah blah. I throw my own 2¢ in there, you know, like, making the comment of like, well, okay. If we're gonna regulate regulate a tool like guns, then we also need to regulate hammers.
We also need to re because hammers have been known to kill people. Mhmm. We need to regulate spoons because spoons have been shown to kill people. We're also gonna need to regulate cars because cars have killed people. We also are gonna need to regulate houses because houses have killed people. And, you know, just kinda gave them out a whole, you know, just just bunch of bunch of little arguments like that. And he he'd come back with his own little big comments. And didn't hear much from him anymore from that. And I was like, alright. Well, you know. And then all of a sudden, 2, it's been 2, 3, maybe 3 weeks ago.
Charlie Kirk was gonna be in Amarillo. Okay. And he was, this guy was wanting to debate Charlie Kirk. He was like, goddamn, I'm gonna show him what's what's for. And I was like, going, dude. Wrong, man. Oh, sorry. But your your professors at college patted you on the head one too many times and you bought that they said you a smart boy.
[02:33:57] Rich Chelson:
You are gonna get owned.
[02:34:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Well and I was so I was like, okay. I would I'd love to watch this. It's like and he was and so we started up in the whole debate about about, abortion and how horrible abortion, the the new abortion laws and how we're taking all the all the, rights away from women and yada yada yada yada. And I was like, well, I mean, when the when you well, he could take away the rights on the women because we're trampling all over the rights of the, of the innocent. He's like, we're not trampling anything over the innocent. They won't these women have should have the right to to their own, their own health care. And it's like, they do.
But the child that she's carrying is not getting any rights. And it's like, things that she's not carrying any she was he was using the whole it's a collection of cells, essentially. Because if you take the child out of the, out of the womb, it's going that child's gonna die. It's like, yeah. So is your liver. So is your brain. So is your heart. Right. You know? There's things that you could do and I've that's I know that was actually a really weak argument and that, I mean, he he punched back pretty good with that one. But at at the same time, that was I was just like, yeah. The child lives with that. It's gotta have a help from the mom for a while.
And, you know, once even after the baby's born, you've got 18 years, you have to take care of that kid. You know? It takes that long for the brain to actually start to start to fully work somewhere in that in that zone. So we did had a big argument on that, and he was raising money because it was gonna be a $1,000 to to be able to go and actually go and debate Charlie Kirk this at this fundraiser. And so he would he ran a GoFundMe, and he's got a $1,000 together. And, they're he was gonna go do it. And he made such a large stink on Facebook that the the, the the organization that was holding the the the Charlie Kirk event was, like, going, dude, we know who you are. No. We're not gonna let you into the organization, dude. No. We're not gonna have a professional shitster come in the, in here causing all sorts of problems, which was which was a a bummer on their side because, one, you just they just open the door up for, oh, they're being racist and blah blah blah because he's black. Right. Right. And so and they they wouldn't let him in in to see to do the debate and all that, and the guy was, like, oh, no. You're just we know who you are. We've seen you on Facebook. You've been you've you're you're we're not gonna have someone stand around and be a professional shitster. And it's and that was one of the things I was telling. I was like, dude. Well, if you were having a group of, a a group of black folks show up, would you elect someone who was a was a member of the KKK come into your organization and start and try to debate you on merits of race?
No. And no. And that's but he was like, he's like, well, yeah. Because I would I'm blah blah blah. And I was like, no, you wouldn't. Stop lying like that. You would not have that. You would not do that. And so we get it coming from that point on, anytime he threw something up, it was I would throw my throw my 2¢ in. There's a lot of global warming BS that we'd have a fight with, and we would have and him and his, his friends would all jump in, and they'd all try to do try to say stuff. And it I was having a good old time. And then finally, he threw up some little, some picture about, all men need to get behind feminism. And I was like, and I I threw in the I I was like, hold up. Hold up. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Okay. Now we got feminism in here. And that's my favorite thing because and I, threw in and it was like, LOL. That's it's funny that you bring up feminism because feminism isn't about the equality of equal access for all women. Like, you wanna say it is.
It is equal access for all ugly women. And he was like, and where do you get your bro, your dumb ideas? And so I was like, all right, well here, let me just do an initial Google search of ugly feminists. And through about 8 or 9 links up, a lot of them read it, which is very liberal leaning. I mean, you, if you're a, if you're a conservative and you mentioned anything in there, you're probably gonna lose some karma points and, and stuff. And so I threw all that up there and my daughter called back, a little bit later. She said, well, I guess I guess you pissed off Chris enough. It's like, why? It's like, well, he blocked you. It's like, uh-uh. And I went over and I looked for his name and sure enough, I couldn't find him. He I I pissed him off enough. He get he's like, your dad just, he just he just went off the deep end with that. He said feminism is for ugly chicks.
[02:38:58] Duuude-Ron :
And Lexie was like, well, yeah.
[02:39:02] Rich Chelson:
I mean, think about it. You know? I and
[02:39:05] Bryan Goodwin:
and Show me a good looking feminist.
[02:39:07] Rich Chelson:
And see and see, that's the thing. You know, this is this is why I have a hard time with with young people because they expect us, older guys and gals, to accept what they're saying. And and if we don't agree with them, we're the bad people. Yeah. And, no, I'm sorry, but life has been this way for centuries. Hey. What?
[02:39:43] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm I'm just jiving with something here.
[02:39:46] Rich Chelson:
Uh-oh.
[02:39:48] Bryan Goodwin:
I wonder because we've heard liberals. They're supposed to be they're tolerant is what they're always we've always been told. They're they're tolerant people. We tolerate all everyone. We want everybody to be tolerant, tolerated, yada yada yada. Right? That's yeah. That's Okay. But what's the other thing they're always bitching about? They're bitching about hate. Hate speech, hate hate groups, hate this, hate that. Right? But they're the worst. If their definition of those words are like in the eighties where bad was good, where we would use words for the opposite.
Yeah. Opposite day. Yeah. So what if, what if they're actually saying, you know, hate speech is actually, you know Well, I mean I mean speech of our to that is supposed to be tolerated or something. Maybe what if they're what if we've been fighting against a a mis information to use the, again, to use their word, a misinformation of what the definition of these words are supposed to be. What have they been going, man? We just wanna be tolerant. And they're actually saying tolerant as a means to going, man, we just hate every fucking button. And, hate speech is, you know, you're you're just being you're being a hater. You're tolerating too many people.
[02:41:09] Rich Chelson:
But but yet but yet we're but yet we're supposed to love everybody and be tolerant
[02:41:16] Bryan Goodwin:
of of other people's decisions, which which we are. We are. No. But that but that's just it. We're we're using tolerant for the word tolerant. We're not using tolerant in their word. They're wanting us to tolerate other people by hating them.
[02:41:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But see, you see that saying, we can't do that. And you see, this is what I don't get. They say they say that that that that we're supposed to accept who they wanna be, what they are, what they think. We don't give a fuck what you think. Just don't shove it down my damn throat. Exactly. Don't force us to think like you think because that's not gonna happen. Right. That's that's where we're clashing. We don't give a shit what you do or how you do it. Just don't make me have to sit there and watch it and sit there and listen to it if I don't want to. Right. Well, that's I mean, that that's one reason why 2025
[02:42:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Western culture hasn't had has only had, like, to go into video games. The 2 big video games that the western culture has had are the 2 that have reused to do anything with the whole woke agenda type of thing. That is, that is space marines 2, which just came out recently, and they've sold like a 100,000,000,000 copies within like a month. I mean, it's stupid, insane. And I wanna play this game, but I don't have the $70 for it. And, and then also there is, so what's the other one that came out? Actually, there's 2 or 3. No. No. There was the other 2 that I'm thinking of, those are actually, Asian made, games.
Helldivers 2 is the other western, western cultured, game, and they're both of them have refused to go. Yeah. You're we're not doing, you know, pride flag colors on anything. That is like y'all are all part part of a team. Y'all it it's all y'all against a bunch of freaking bugs. Alright? Kill the bugs. Don't worry about whether or not you've got your your pride flag cape on. You're out there killing bugs. And and that's what the the a lot of the, the the game journalists are always bitching about is that it's like you don't let people express their individuality, and their the personality on the games. It's like, well, first off, it's their game.
It's not the, it's not the, the, the people bitching didn't make the game. And second of all, they weren't gonna play the game to, to begin with. Right. So who cares? But the fact that Helldivers 2, Space Marines 2 are both sold some like, like a sold like a $100,000,000 worth of of of revenue in, like, no time flat. The only 2 other games that are really or not 2, but the the only other games that have really just kicked it out of the park is Stellar Blade, which is a Korean made game. And it's got a girl in there that is fucking hot looking chick for being an animated girls. And and she, you know, it of course, it was also modeled after an actual model.
And then you have instead of doing the same bullcrap like what star wars, outlaws did, the main character that the, that, Ma'am Solo, I can't think of what her name is. She just she's the scruffy the scruffy nerve herder type of person. She's supposed to be the scoundrel, and she is but but the actual actress who they based the face and all on doesn't look anything like the actress. Got a very square jaw and and a very blocky face and is very, very Manly? Got a manly features to it, but at the same time as a woman, androgynous. That's the word I'm looking for.
Got a very androgynous look. You can tell it's supposed to be a woman, but doesn't look anything like the original, the original, actress who the who the character is modeled after. Right. And they were and the and the, the the developers, which are, is, Assassin's creed, Ubisoft, has gone off. It's like, well, when you're applying all the different stuff to, to the facial features, sometimes you can't get the face to look exactly right. And everybody keeps going, look at stellar blade. Hello? And and, you know, appointment at this and going, look, you can you can do it. You can make a, girl look like a hot girl, Look attractive and guys don't guys kinda wanna play it. Yeah. Girls play the game too, but they at the same time, they would like to I'm sure they would like to look at a a decent looking woman as opposed to the dumpster fire of a of a, of a punching bag that you've got set up for, like, Star Wars Outlaws.
And then the other one that was, that became, that sold like hotcakes and is still doing good is, oh, what is it? Black Myth Wukong, which is one it's it's the the main character is a magic monkey man. And it's based on the, based on a Chinese novel, an old Chinese novel called, Journey to the West. And, so it's got all these mythical, monsters and stuff that you're fighting as you're as you're progressing. And, crazy game. Everybody loves it. It's a great, great game. It's, yeah, it's got very it's got a lot of, of, souls born, aspects to it where the monsters and all the the main bosses are all these great, big, huge, over the top battles.
But, but it's great because everybody likes playing. They did a great job. They didn't bow down to turning, turning the monkey king into a, to a girl monkey queen or anything like that. They it was a tune. Yeah. He is not going to he's not going to be running around with a with a banner that is, of a pride flag or anything. And that again, that's what a lot of the journalists throw a fit about is that's they're we can't have our pride stuff. Well, no shit. It's China. Alright? China doesn't go for the go for the,
[02:47:50] Rich Chelson:
the the nonsense that ours is. Either way, don't you have enough pride stuff?
[02:47:56] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You never have too much pride. They wanna make sure that it's you eat, breathe, and live pride. I'm surprised Fruit Loops hadn't put out pride colored Fruit Loops yet. You know, I'm actually kinda shocked.
[02:48:08] Rich Chelson:
Oh, do you know do you know PS 5 Pro is out?
[02:48:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And all $700 worth of it. And,
[02:48:16] Rich Chelson:
the only difference I see between my 5 and a PS 5 pro is an extra terabyte of storage.
[02:48:25] Bryan Goodwin:
You got an extra terabyte of storage and the, and the optical drive is sold separately for $80.
[02:48:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So it's like, yeah, I, yeah, I saw that. I saw that. And I'm just like,
[02:48:39] Bryan Goodwin:
yeah. There is Well, I and there you're supposed to have better fidelity with the images, and it's supposed to be just a little bit clearer, a little bit stronger, a little bit better, and more likely so because, I mean, it's been 5 years already.
[02:48:53] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. But but the thing is, though, is is most TVs can't handle it. That's the whole thing. The TVs that are out right now, the QNEDS, the QLEDS, all this shit, they can handle the PS 5. So and and and they don't have room to And and if you want a 120 Hertz refresh rate, you gotta go up into the $45,000 range. Your average consumer cannot afford the $45,000 TVs. Not yet.
[02:49:35] Bryan Goodwin:
But that's what they're do that's what they're getting ready to be able to sell this year for Black Friday. I'm sure. Everyone will get their 120 inch, 8 k television. So
[02:49:48] Rich Chelson:
yeah. But yeah. See and and see, that's the thing. You know? It just I don't I don't you know, I like my PS 5. I like the graphics I get. Oh, yeah. And and I know I know if I have shitty graphics, I have an older game. Yeah. And and I accept it. You know? If if if I get a newer game, then, yes, I expect to see better graphics, like, like a Detroit becomes human. The graphics on that game are are are awesome, I think. You know? I haven't I haven't played that game on my new TV yet. That was on my 50 inch I was playing, and I was happy with the graphics in. Right. You know?
So I don't know. I I I might I might have to see if I can get this, Stellar Blade and see if it's in the game store and play it. Oh, it is. It's it's a $70 game. So Well, I'm not buying it.
[02:50:49] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. It's it's it's just freshly out. So, no, they don't have it for for the, for the free download stuff yet.
[02:50:57] Rich Chelson:
No. No. I mean I mean, like, they'll put games in a game catalog that, that, you can stream and play.
[02:51:08] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? Yeah. No. No. That's not there yet. They're still trying to get the $70 out of it.
[02:51:13] Rich Chelson:
No. Hell no. Uh-uh.
[02:51:15] Unknown:
Uh-uh.
[02:51:17] Rich Chelson:
Not doing that one. As I'm sitting here thinking about buying a laser engraver. Exactly.
[02:51:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Go figure. Right? I'm still wait I'm waiting for I can't wait until Quake 3 Arena finally comes out for PS 5 because they've already gotten Quake and Quake 2 out. So all we got is Quake 3 and Quake 4.
[02:51:37] Rich Chelson:
And, hell, I've I haven't played them.
[02:51:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, Quake 2 is my favorite. And we can actually do multiplayer on that one. We can do co op mode on it. Yeah.
[02:51:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. See, I've been I've been actually playing,
[02:51:53] Bryan Goodwin:
well well, I'm still playing Breakpoint. Breakpoint. Yeah. I saw you playing that last this weekend.
[02:51:59] Rich Chelson:
But the thing is, somehow, I wound up and switched over to Operation Motherland. Don't know how. Yeah. That's yeah. It's it's not the story mode. It's it's another one. And you've got And and and breakpoint?
[02:52:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. And breakpoint. Okay. So this must be a DLC then. Okay.
[02:52:20] Rich Chelson:
I guess. But, I wound up somehow got over there. And, like like, the first area you're in, you can fly helicopters. But I'm gonna tell you, in in other areas, you can't until you basically, take out the, drone swarms. I'm gonna tell you, do not try and fly into one of them other areas if they're not done because not only do you get the flying drones that that shoot your helicopter down, but you got the ground drones, and they don't stop shooting until you're dead. And I mean, dead. So, you know, if you drive in, walk in, whatever, you're fine. Don't fly.
And then you gotta do, like, 2 missions, destabilize, and and and kill the main drone area, and then you can fly your helicopter in. Just saying. So, yeah, it's it's it's actually, it's actually a little more involved. It's Right. It's actually kinda cool, but, yeah, I don't I mean, I flipped it on one day, and next thing you know, it said operation motherland. The hell? Alright. I'll play it. I don't care. But
[02:53:45] Bryan Goodwin:
so Well, I finished up Far Cry 4, and after that, after that one, I was like, I still got, like, 5,
[02:53:52] Rich Chelson:
5 and 6, and, new dawn and couple of the others. And I'm like going, yeah. We're gonna hold off on that one. I just,
[02:54:00] Bryan Goodwin:
they got the new dead space available for, for the, for the free download that you actually get to download and keep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so
[02:54:11] Rich Chelson:
I
[02:54:12] Bryan Goodwin:
see, I think I downloaded that one. I I haven't played it yet. That one's that one's I've always heard it's fun, but at the same time, that's just that's I have that's one that's supposed to is is just one of those really good, just scary survival horror type of, type of games. So Well, that's probably not gonna be a fun game for me because I Oh, yeah. Well, you'll love it. I don't like it. Finish off cyberpunk, though, man. Come on.
[02:54:39] Rich Chelson:
You know, I'm stuck in a thing, and I can't get out of it so I can regroup.
[02:54:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Where you at?
[02:54:47] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. But all I know is when I start the game and I'm I'm in the middle of this this, like, mall area, I've got a dude right here with his back to me. I gotta get past him. Another guy over here, I gotta get past him, and then I gotta get worked around to get, a car, or a minivan. But I've got people all around me, and if they spot me, I don't care how good I can shoot. I can't kill them all. I've tried.
[02:55:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you can always, you can always back up a couple of saves and and avoid that one till you're, at a higher at a higher level.
[02:55:34] Rich Chelson:
That's what I'm gonna have to do then because because yeah. Because because I try to, like, hit the center button to go to the map and then go to another area so I could just leave that one alone Right. You know, and get get better, but it won't let me. It sticks me right there. So I guess I'm gonna have to, at the start,
[02:55:58] Bryan Goodwin:
go to load a game and load 1 of them. Load a game, and then whenever you get off to whenever you're at at that place, then yeah. Go check go hit another, another, like, blue, blue paper area or blue gig or do one of the yellow, one of the yellow, missions that's not filled in. Right. Because you have so, like, some of those are are quite easy. So
[02:56:28] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I need I need to build my character up more is what I need to do. Yeah. I'm I'm at a 52 right now on mine. Oh, I don't I don't even know where I'm at, but I know I I know I'm not there. So
[02:56:42] Bryan Goodwin:
But But I can also help you. Yeah. We'll do may do that this weekend. May get get you on get you doing some streaming so I could see where you're at. And then at least send you over to get go get guts, which is a shotgun that is amazing. It's probably the best damn shotgun. Well, it's not a prop maybe. It is the best shotgun you can get. And,
[02:57:03] Rich Chelson:
oh, yeah.
[02:57:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. And do you do you have, do you have Netflix?
[02:57:08] Rich Chelson:
No.
[02:57:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Never mind. Why? Well, because I was gonna say if you had Netflix, you would definitely wanna watch, the, watch the show, Cyberpunk Edge Runners. It's it's a cartoon that they, that cyberpunk did. And one of the girls in there, one of the characters, her name is Rebecca, and that's her gun, is is Guts, which is an iconic shotgun. And just it's and and it's one of those where you shoot, you actually your character, when you shoot it, you actually back up a little bit. Oh, damn. It's got so much kick. And you can actually jump off of buildings, and if you shoot at the right time, it'll actually stop you from be hitting the ground. And so you can That'd be cool. It's awesome. It's fun. It's great. But it does a great job. You come across some of the some of the skull, the extra tough, bad guy that you just clack clack clack clack clack. He runs all 6 shells into it, and he they fall over in 3 pieces. So
[02:58:13] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because yeah. That's yeah. And and and in that game, a shotgun actually would be really good.
[02:58:20] Bryan Goodwin:
So Yep. But Yeah. I've got I used the shotgun. I've got the iconic, shotgun. I used the, guts. I've got, I actually have just up changed over from using Overwatch to a different, to a different sniper rifle. And then I used Jackie's, pistols as for, for the 3rd weapon. So Okay.
[02:58:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm I've got I've got 2 rifles. I know that, but and and they are good for what they are, but they're not that good on some of the harder people. Right. I need some help. But
[02:59:00] Bryan Goodwin:
I wish we could do co op on there. That would be a lot of fun. Jump on there and one person be Jackie Wells and the other one be Vee and just That'd be cool. That would be a shit ton of fun. Maybe that's what they do with cyberpunk, Orion. So Well, send them an email. If they if they don't screw it up, Sweet Baby Inc has has got their fingers in it. So
[02:59:21] Rich Chelson:
No. But oh, dude, we probably ought to, What time is it? It's 10 o'clock. Holy smokes. It's 10 o'clock.
[02:59:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's just straight up 10 o'clock. Yeah. We didn't even talk about the, talk about, sales pitches or anything like that. So No. That's right. We didn't. So we'll we'll go ahead and we'll which is good because I still not a 100 percent sure on on got got everything all hammered out. I know who I'm gonna talk to and what I'm and the advantages, but the actual what I would say, I've I haven't got that far. So anyhow Okay. So, anyhow. Next week. Next week. We'll call it for next. We'll we'll pin it for next week. So alright. So guys, anyhow, I wanna say thank y'all very much to the to y'all taking the time and they and and having the efforts that it takes to, listen to the 3 well, 2 of us to yabber. I mean, because Ron if if Ron would shut up just a little bit from time to time, the rest of us the other 2 of us could talk. And it would be, you know, we could have a decent conversation going on. But, no, he just yabbered. I mean, I have to mute him. I bet you didn't even realize I had him muted this whole time, but now Ron's probably looking at this one like, what?
But no. And it
[03:00:36] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? Fuck that motherfucker. That motherfucker kiss my ass. That guy's a dickhead anyway. Exactly.
[03:00:51] Bryan Goodwin:
So But anyhow, guys, this show this show is a value for value show. This is a podcasting 2.0 centric show and that means that we have lots of different features that most of the legacy shows or legacy apps do not even think of. We have the ability for you to just look at chapters. We have the ability to have images with those chapters. And those images aren't just images, those images are GIFs. And then we've got links in those chapters that you can actually go and you can read, read up different things that we have to talk about a different website or 2. So much is going on with podcasting 2 point o. Not only are do we have the chapters, we have, we have transcripts. So if you're if you're somebody who is, trying to figure out what the hell Rich actually said, you could go and pull up the transcript on a podcasting 2 point o app and go, oh, that's what he said. And these these are, a great means of being able to help. So if you got people who are hard of hearing but still wanna be able to partake and listen to the show, they can actually even pull up the transcript and see who is talking at what time and what they're saying and and things like that. But then we also have, our our pod roll which has got an assortment of different, other shows that we listen to and and enjoy.
And so you can actually see and discover new shows that way. And then we also have, just, we have the value for value aspect, which is where you can actually send satoshis as a means of saying thank you. Hey. I like the value of the show. But you can also send messages to us and go, hey, dude. You you know, you're you're sounding really weird right now. Or what the heck are you talking What is this radio thing? You know, who who wants a ham sandwich like that that has to have wires? We could you can ask all these questions and we can point it over to Rich and go, Rich, you're the one that knows all about that stuff. Yeah. You know, I'm I'm still trying to figure out what direction I'm supposed to push my hand up against the wall. So, you know. So so we're, you know, we're it's a wonderful thing to, to do and this podcasting 2.0, specs are are absolutely fascinating and, wonderful win. If you're wanting to listen to our show through podcasting 2.0, most of the time you can also listen to it live. When we're running live, we guess what? You will get a notification. You'll get the bat signal popping up on whatever app you use, and it'll tell you, hey.
2 grumpy vets and a dude is live, and you can listen in and you can actually hear all the mess ups and all the the spaces of of of dead air that we put in here, which usually isn't actually all that much. But sometimes we get around to where we're, like, looking something up and we forget to, to keep talking. So rare times, but we they they do happen. And so we have those great moments of of broadcasting that we share out with everybody. And so you get to partake in all of that. But the biggest part is is that, yeah, our show is a podcast, value for value type of podcast, Which means, if you found any value in what we did, you can actually hit the, you can actually hit the the the, the value tag.
Most, most podcast 2.0 apps have a value button on them. And you will bring up a means for you to be able to help contribute to us. You can contribute some money to us. We could gladly accept whatever treasure you happen to send to us and at whatever increments you'd like to send it. Or if you are wanting to you you're a broke person, the, Biden's economy has just completely strapped you and you don't have the money to be able to, to send our weight, that's cool. We're alright. We're not we're not gonna suck. We're not gonna drown. It's just your, you know, your help your money helps us to be able to make sure the the show keeps going. But if you wanna help out in other ways, we have different ways for you to be able to help out. You can help us out with with graphics and chapter editing and and all sorts of stuff. Just give us a just give us give us a call. Give us a call with our email.
Send us an email. You can send, over to me, circle cast at circle cast, like how goofy cast out a fishing line. Circle [email protected] or rchelson, and that's [email protected]. And both of those will get to one of us and we will be able to answer a question that you have. If you want to help out, we can get We can show you where you where you can help us out at. And we would love to have you join upon join up and for and provide whatever, you know, time, talent, or treasure that you happen to have. So with that, I wanna say thanks so very much for, for listening and join the heck out of it. And, and I can't wait to keep going going on this because there's so much fun and good chance for us to be able to sit around and talk with, with the these guys and the and to have a good laugh, a a chance to think, and, and occasionally we get a a consternation and and get really, really aggravated at each other which makes it even more fun. So anyhow, so, dude, what do you have to say as a closing shot?
[03:06:14] Duuude-Ron :
You know, like we said earlier, you know, that guy just needs to shut the fuck up. He took that's entirely too damn much. And Yes. 2, you know, yeah, I'm having a rough time in life right now. Just bear with me. Hopefully, it'll get better soon.
[03:06:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. When he gets happy, though, Lord, help us because he is just a a ray of sunshine that blinds everybody.
[03:06:46] Duuude-Ron :
Weird.
[03:06:48] Unknown:
Well, there's a
[03:06:50] Rich Chelson:
When do you talk about roller skating?
[03:06:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[03:06:57] Rich Chelson:
Got you on there, dude.
[03:06:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. One of these days, I'll get my skates back out and go shuffle skating one night. Who knows? But, again, thank you for, listening to us. Just well, just what we do.
[03:07:19] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:07:22] Bryan Goodwin:
This is true. This is what we do. We support each other. And it's, you know, sometimes it's us just asking questions, just kinda pushing, kinda nuzzling into the into that personal space just a little bit so that we kinda figure out. It's like, alright. So what is it that's, you know, what's the what's the problem? What's the what's the revelation? What's the win? What's the loss, of of our life? So that we are parts of each other. We are 3 good friends who spend a lot of time each week with each other. And that's what men need as a whole.
The men who are struggling to find themselves struggling to feel like there's no one they can turn to. There are other guys out there and you can actually take the time to go, Hey, man. I I think I like you. Come on over here. Sit down. Let's have a conversation. Let's talk. And you could talk for a little bit and go, you know what? Alright. I kinda like you. You're you're cool. You wanna talk again next week? Sure. Alright. Let's sit down. We'll have to talk. If you find anybody that you think would join in, that'd do pretty good. Bring them in. Bring them in. And that y'all can bring grow the group together. And as you grow, you develop and grow your community. And your community becomes crucial to you having the joy and the happiness and the fulfillment that you want because those friends of yours are going to push you to success. They're gonna push you to for you to find what makes you smile.
And it's not necessarily that you're always going to be in a good mood. It's not you're not gonna be walking around with a smile hanging out of your asshole, but you're gonna have a better disposition. You're gonna have a better life because you're having a sense of fulfillment, which is actually more important than walking around being happy all the time. So many of us guys are worried that I'm not happy all the time. Well, you're not supposed to be. You're gonna be you're gonna feel pain half the time of your life. The other half is gonna be happy, but you're gonna have those those those valleys. You got your peaks, you got your valleys, you got them both. That's part of life. That is what you have to go through. And if you're constantly resisting going into the valleys, you're never going to get to experience the glories of those peaks.
You have to have the sad and the pain to enjoy the the glories of those fulfilling moments of life. So with that, Rich, what do you have to say?
[03:10:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, with that, I gotta I I just I gotta keep saying it because well, actually, we haven't talked about it for a minute, but I just I just gotta keep thanking everybody for for listening because, damn, we're at 1085 downloads. And, if if I remember right,
[03:10:25] Bryan Goodwin:
We were under a 1,003 last week.
[03:10:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, I mean, our our number's been going up, and we hit we hit a 1,000 downloads before our 6 month anniversary. Right. And I wanna say that, in fact, this week is our 6 month anniversary if I Are we finally hitting 6? I've I I'm almost I'm almost sure. Let me check real quick. Shoot. We've done so many. We got 2 pages now. Yeah. Actually, 15th April, we dropped our first episode, and 13th April was when I put the trailer out. So, yeah, just yeah. 6 months and a couple days. So and we have a 1085 downloads from 12 different countries. It it's insane. It's it's a it it's amazed me, and I I you know, as this is what this is what keeps me coming back because there's somebody that wants to hear me talk.
You know? And not very many people wanna hear me talk.
[03:11:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Nope. But and my the one client that I have that, that listens to the show, he loves the shit out of you. He thinks he he thinks you're just the funniest damn thing he's ever come across.
[03:11:51] Unknown:
What?
[03:11:52] Rich Chelson:
I don't know how, but okay. I appreciate it. You're perpetually stoned as part of it. So I Well, no. No. I'd no. Sorry. Well, I don't you know you know, it's it's been over 30 years since I have smoked any weed, but the weed I smoked the last weed I smoked really did a number on me. And so, yeah, I I don't know. Maybe it's maybe it's the after effects
[03:12:18] Bryan Goodwin:
It's still happening 30 years later. I don't know. You still feel that you've been stoned for 30 years. Right. Right.
[03:12:26] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. It's just that's that's the main thing. It's just I'm shocked that that, you know, people are listening to our to our episodes, listen to what we have to say. What I mean and, yeah, reach out to us. [email protected]. For me, Rich, or Brian at circle cast atgmail.com. And we'll be happy to, reach out and talk to you. And, you know, if you wanna donate, that's great. You know? Go to, our website, what, to grumpy vets.com? Yep. Yeah. Yep. And, there's a way to donate to And that's the word to, t w o? Yeah. T w o, not not the number. And, yeah, We don't care if it's 50¢, a dollar.
We don't care because we just like doing this because, like like Brian says, you know, guys need to have actual conversations. You know, if you're just sitting there, you know, sitting around drinking beer, smoking weed, and grunting, that's not a conversation. You need to actually have a conversation. So, you know, it's just find you some friends who you like, hang out with, and talk to, and talk about different stuff. Who knows? You might learn something. Exactly. So So But that's about all I got. Alright.
[03:13:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, guys, thank you all again for, for listening. And, dude, Rich, thank you all again for coming on. And, thank you, bro. It's been a been a good time. And, we still gotta figure out, I guess I guess here soon, we need to have the, have the roller skating skating centric, episode and and, and and just watch watch, watch Ron just completely geek out. So That would be really cool.
[03:14:28] Rich Chelson:
Dude, what you think about that?
[03:14:32] Duuude-Ron :
You know, talk talking about it and doing it are something 2 completely different things. You know? I don't really know know how I could talk about it. I just like to actually physically do it.
[03:14:49] Rich Chelson:
Well, you got to skate. So what they charge to go skating? $5? $10?
[03:14:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Considering today's inflation, probably closer to $25 to go. If you had drone time I
[03:15:05] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. The last time I went before COVID, it was $10 ahead if you had your own skates for 3 hours.
[03:15:16] Bryan Goodwin:
They charged it for 3 hours? And so after 3 hours, you had to pay again?
[03:15:22] Duuude-Ron :
No. They they were only open for 3 hours.
[03:15:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh god.
[03:15:28] Duuude-Ron :
What? That's what I always thought. That's a bummer. But You just finally get yourself all limbered up. Well, dude shit. I remember I remember doing the fucking skateathons where we were there for 24 hours. Right.
[03:15:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, dude, why don't you put your skates on and go skating out in the street?
[03:15:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because they're not, outdoor wheels.
[03:15:51] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[03:15:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. He's gonna have the metal wheels. Remember?
[03:15:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I gotta have the metal wheels with no bearings and the, No bearings. Yeah. Yeah. And the and the screw going towards it. Oh, and the and, you know, the laces to go up over my shoes.
[03:16:07] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's what they we'll see.
[03:16:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I may I'm old. I ain't that old. But, you know, I still know people that started like that. Absolutely. So Right? Yep.
[03:16:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Well, guys, we'll go ahead and let y'all go so that, those of us who are are owed and and tired can go actually go to bed and, get some snoozes. And so, anyhow, everybody have yourselves a great incredible weekend, and we will see y'all next Thursday. Till then. Bye.
[03:16:46] Duuude-Ron :
Later. See you. See you.
[03:16:50] Rich Chelson:
Later, guys. Night. Alright. Bye.
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude. Recording in progress.
[00:00:39] Rich Chelson:
Mister Brian. Hello. Hey. Let me ask you a question. And I'm just too. I'm just asking to ask ask. Oh, what you doing with the transcriptions?
[00:00:57] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll just hold on to them in case we need them.
[00:01:00] Rich Chelson:
Okay. That's fine. No. I just noticed, you know, that that had been popping up, you know, on Wednesday Thursday nights, and I didn't know if you had anything special. He's No. I mean, if we need them, we we can we can use them, but, I mean, hell, we got the transcription that automatically happens on the, on,
[00:01:21] Bryan Goodwin:
on Pot Home anyhow. So
[00:01:23] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. No. That's fine. I just I just want I just noticed it and just figured I'd ask it. Yeah. No problem.
[00:01:31] Bryan Goodwin:
No problem at all. I don't mind answering questions.
[00:01:34] Rich Chelson:
I mean, trans with me? Transcribe away. I'll give them a damn. Ask, did you say this? Fuck yes, I did. What you gonna do about it?
[00:01:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm gonna I was gonna say it's actually kind of fun to sit there and watch the AI go. Be tapping along, all of a sudden go, what did you say?
[00:01:53] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, hey. Check this out. I here. I I need to turn my video on. Uh-huh. You need to and, we're not live. Live is fucking up. We're, real bad now. And I still don't know why. Here. Hang on. Let let me turn my background off. Just background and facts. Okay. Damn. There's my white room.
[00:02:34] Bryan Goodwin:
K. Backwards, so let me see if I can figure out. 2 grumpy vets and a dude. Okay. Let's see.
[00:02:45] Unknown:
Here.
[00:02:46] Bryan Goodwin:
On on air. Oh, okay.
[00:02:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It was funny. I was on I was on, I was on Amazon the other day or eBay or something, and, I, I found a, it was eBay. Found a on air sign from the thirties. Okay? Uh-huh. And, I mean, it was it was original. Art Deco 19 thirties, 19 forties on air radio sign that worked.
[00:03:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, cool. Yeah.
[00:03:31] Rich Chelson:
$27100. I'm like, yeah. That dog don't.
[00:03:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, gee, who is?
[00:03:38] Rich Chelson:
You know, I was like I was like, yeah. No about that. And so, and and I had looked and, yeah, yeah, I could find an on air sign, you know, for 20, $30, $40. Right. You know? Because I I mean, I just think it looks cool, to be honest with you. Oh, absolutely. And, well, yeah, I was in Hobby Lobby today. And I did I did not spend a $126. Thank god.
[00:04:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you got yourself under control just barely.
[00:04:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, just just I know. Just hang on. Just just hang on to that thought. Hang on to that thought for a few minutes. But, anyway, I was just I was I was looking around, found a pitcher hanging kit. Yeah. I was just going around looking, and, I saw this little thing right here that I showed you, and it's just a piece of plexiglass
[00:04:47] Bryan Goodwin:
K.
[00:04:48] Rich Chelson:
On a board with a battery operated stripability light.
[00:04:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:04:55] Rich Chelson:
Okay. I mean, it takes 2 double a's. And I was like, it was like 699. Oh, wow. You you can write on it with dry erase marker. Okay? Okay. Now check this out. The words were written with red ink, but they come up orange.
[00:05:19] Bryan Goodwin:
That's interesting.
[00:05:20] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Blue blue comes up purple and green comes up purple.
[00:05:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So that's a red light that's shining.
[00:05:28] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. It's a white
[00:05:33] Bryan Goodwin:
light. That that'd make any sense then.
[00:05:35] Rich Chelson:
Not right. I know it doesn't. And black and black comes up as, kind of like here. Hang on a second. Let me see. Once it dries, it comes up like, kind of a yellow. Yeah. It is yeah. Yeah. There's no rhyme or reason to it, dude. But
[00:06:06] Bryan Goodwin:
That tells me there's gotta be they may be using tri colors, but the red is really shining through on it. That's the only thing that could really
[00:06:20] Rich Chelson:
No. These are dude, here. These are bright. Here, I'll show you. These are bright freaking white. But the thing is, it could be bouncing off the wood. See that? Right. That's bright. That's white. But but but you see, what I'm thinking is the light could be bouncing off the wood, and this is pine, so it's the yellow wood. Right. So the red the red and and and the shadow of the the light bouncing off the wood is is causing it to make it look orange. It's the only thing I can figure out. Yeah. I mean,
[00:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, other than that, I don't know, dude. But, I mean, it's cool as shit, I think. Oh, no. It's it's it's definitely cool. I like it. But, yeah, I'm just sitting here scratching my head going, okay. Where where's the red coloring coming from?
[00:07:28] Rich Chelson:
From the dry erase marker.
[00:07:30] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I mean, but it but no. Because you've got blue is, or, blue is coming out purple. Red and blue make purple. Mhmm. The, you have, the yellow coming out orange. That is red and yellow. So there's red somewhere in that mixture.
[00:07:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But yeah. But this strip is But where? That's that's what's that's what's kerfuffleing me. I know. I know. It's weird, dude. Here. I'm gonna show you this. This is, I'm really gonna blow your fucking mind now. Okay. Let me let me turn my background off again.
[00:08:27] Unknown:
Okay. Now
[00:08:32] Rich Chelson:
you see your name, my name, or Ron's name, and my name. Right? Right. Your name was written in blue ink. K. Yeah. In fact, I see it blue on the backside, and you see it as purple. K. Yeah. Dude's name was written in black, and it looks like a peach Yeah. Kind of a peach.
[00:08:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's a lighter color than the yellow.
[00:09:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. My name was written in green.
[00:09:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Now yours is weird. I don't know I don't I don't know. See, red and green. K. It's a hot and a cold color.
[00:09:17] Rich Chelson:
So yeah. See, your name and my name look right close to each other. Yeah. They look similar. Yeah. But but one's blue and one's green, and dude's is black. Insane. I don't I don't know how it does it, like I said, unless it's the the, the, the, wood coloring
[00:09:44] Bryan Goodwin:
is the only That very very well could possibly be where the, where the the the color's coming from.
[00:09:53] Rich Chelson:
It very well could be. I I I mean, I'm I mean, I'm not a 100% sure. Oh, no. You got me lost because I was
[00:10:01] Bryan Goodwin:
because I know that what the way they there's 2 ways that they can make white lights, l LEDs. They can use the tri colors, which I don't know if you could change the colors on the on that, on that light or not. No. No. So there's a chance that they have a red, I see. What is the opposite of red? You wouldn't have to ask me that. I think it's cyan. So it may have a cyan filter on it, which turns it no? I I think that's what it is.
[00:10:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, see, red red is what red is what's, making this orange right now.
[00:10:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Well yeah. But what I'm do so what I'm saying is if you put the complimentary colors on there Right. So you have RGB, the red, green, red, green, blue. You also have, c n y k.
[00:11:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So, you got cyan, magenta, and yellow, and k is black. But c m y, c m y k.
[00:11:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:11:30] Bryan Goodwin:
And those are the complimentary colors to the RGB. Right.
[00:11:40] Rich Chelson:
But where do you get well, red and yellow makes orange. I know that. But Yeah. Well, okay. That would that would explain the light come and bouncing off the wood, which is a yellow wood because it's pine. So but, but what I mean, black going peach or a very light pale yellow? I mean, black and white being mixed through a light?
[00:12:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, black, a lot of times, is to get a black ink, you've actually got several colors mixed together.
[00:12:24] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That is true. You've got blue and a few other colors mixed in there to get that. So that could be
[00:12:31] Bryan Goodwin:
could be that, that, you know, yellow or whatever is in, one of the colors that they mixed together is a little more stronger.
[00:12:42] Rich Chelson:
That very well could be. But but, again, who knows? I mean, yeah, the only thing you could try
[00:12:47] Bryan Goodwin:
to to really start fixing or started, exploring that is to just go on ahead and, buy another set, a different brand of of dry erase markers and see if you get the same effects. Something tells me you're probably gonna get a different effect.
[00:13:06] Rich Chelson:
Probably. Very well. Yeah. That's that's very possible. That's very possible, but I don't know. Like I said, I freaking found this for 6.99, at at, Hobby Lobby, and I was like, oh, hell, yeah. That would be cool. And and you say the thing is, at at the time, I wasn't even thinking about 2 grumpy beds. I I mean, I don't know I don't know what I was thinking of. It just said dry erase lighted dry erase thing. Right. I'm just thinking, oh, fucking cool. Well, I get home, and I'm trying out the different colors, and I'm using my call sign. Right? And Uh-huh.
And I'm like, woah. Hold on here. Hold on a day. Because I was trying my call sign to see how it'd look with the light. Okay? And I'm like, oh, I had an idea. So I put 2 grumpy vets and a dude, and I'm like, oh, that's fucking cool. I was like, wait, I've been wanting an on air sign for fucking ever. Ta ching. So I was like, I ain't paying $40 for an on air sign. I made my own. Gotcha. For $7 and however many cents because I had the dry erase markers already. I didn't have to buy those. Oh, okay. Yeah. You know? I mean, I could have bought the ones that was the same brand as the lighted sign, but I'm like and then and then I'm sitting here looking at this.
When I get home and actually look at it, it's like, man. Because the last couple days, I've been I've been bad. I've been real bad.
[00:14:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Having trouble staying on, on budget?
[00:15:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Thinking about going off budget again because I got a wild hair up my ass. I had a had an idea pop into my head, and I've been fighting myself all week with it, And this don't help. Been thinking about getting a laser engraver. And Hobby Lobby does not help. Nope. When you're when you're when you've got a laser engraver on your mind. I guarantee it. It does not help. No. It does not. Because now now okay. Check this out. When I bought this, honey, I wasn't even thinking about laser engraving. This. Right. I didn't think about that until I got home, and I'm like, oh, shit. This is Oh, yeah. I could I could do 2 grumpy vets and a dude in a cool font and color it up.
Oh my god. No, man. I I was but but that was after I got home. While I was at Hobby Lobby, I went I went perusing through the store. And As one does? Oh, yeah. As one does. And I'm sitting there, and I find I find the leather section because I didn't know if they still had the leather stuff.
[00:16:26] Bryan Goodwin:
And Not much. At least ours doesn't. Doesn't have near as big of it as it used to be. This one does.
[00:16:33] Rich Chelson:
This one still does. Yeah. This this they even have rolls of leather you can buy, 20 by 30 inch roll for $85. There's a place in Amarillo that I would rather go and get it because you can get a lot cheaper, and it's damn near just almost
[00:16:51] Bryan Goodwin:
fresh off the cow.
[00:16:52] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. No. No. I was just saying this is just stuff I saw on the shelf. You know? I you know? But I saw I saw, like, coasters, leather coasters, and I'm like, I could engrave those. I saw corkboard coasters. I could engrave those. And I'm sitting here thinking it's like they've got all these little discs of wood. I can make little signs of all of just anything, you know, and and and I could freaking engrave it all, you know, and I'm Next thing you know, we're gonna see Pascagoula's got a weird engraving problem.
[00:17:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Out of nowhere, there's a stop sign that's been laser engraved.
[00:17:34] Rich Chelson:
Right? No. But but yeah. And and you see, I was I was looking at the leather stuff, and I and you see, I've got a box of fucking tile in my little wood shop right now that was, I guess, left over from the bathroom. Uh-huh. Tiled shower. I mean, I've got fucking material there. And, of course, Hobby Lobby sells basswood. I can buy a freaking, see,
[00:18:05] Bryan Goodwin:
2 inch by 2 inch by 6 inch block basswood. Well, I can get I've got some.
[00:18:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, I can get quarter inch by 4 by, 2 foot, I think. Yep. You know, I mean and and I'm sitting here. It's like, oh my god. It's like, all this shit. Yeah. I mean, I could I can make little signs, you know, little home decor sign. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, what? I'm like, I just like, oh my god. Don't I have enough shit to do to keep my, to keep me busy and keep my mind occupied? You do. Before you can earn yourself up to a laser engraver, you have to learn hand engrave.
[00:18:52] Bryan Goodwin:
There you go.
[00:18:54] Rich Chelson:
That gives you a reward
[00:18:57] Bryan Goodwin:
for doing the, to earn the, the, the laser engraving. Yeah. How will you think that dog gonna hunt, dude? Nah, depends on how badly you wanna have that, that laser engraver.
[00:19:12] Rich Chelson:
You get them before you get a before you can you're you're ready for it. I'm gonna run by there and snatch it from you. Dude, I could $380. I can have everything I need. And this is the 2nd time that I've had it in my cart. I was like, no. Damn it. The other night, I was like this because I I I don't know why it popped into my head, and I was I was looking at them. And, you know, I'm not I'm not getting a fancy one or anything like that. Just a simple one. But I just like, yeah, I don't know. But then I get this freaking little light up sign thingy doodickey, and I'm like, man, that'd be so easy.
That would be so easy to, you know, put a cool font. Yep. Make it all and and just and then and then just set it in there, you know, and, you know, I could color the, you know, make it, like, 3 d or something or whatever. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sitting there. Shit. I can sit here and do that. But I mean, I've got I pulled out. I, finally got off my ass and started playing with my Elinka radio. Okay. And because, a tuner I got for it wouldn't work, but it worked. Do you have a radio that doesn't have a tuner?
[00:20:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes.
[00:20:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, now, no, but yes, I did.
[00:21:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. I'm not understanding that. What, so what's the advantages of having a radio that you can't tune into different stations?
[00:21:09] Rich Chelson:
No, no, no, no, no, no. A tuner, a tuner is to match the radio to the antenna because
[00:21:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Okay. That makes sense now. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I was like going, well, that just tells me you're stuck on 1 in one frequency there, man. I mean, I'm thinking tuner, like,
[00:21:29] Rich Chelson:
you know, come in Tokyo. Come in Tokyo. What we you know, like, what we used to play with girls. So Right. Right. Yeah. No. This is, no. This this radio well, let's say I'm not I'm not a 100% sure. Anyway, the first tuner that I put with it wouldn't work. And so I moved it over to my Yaesu FT 7 10, my big radio, because the built in one seemed like it was acting up for some damn reason. And it it it works on that one just fine. Well, there's a smaller tuner I found, and it's it's made by Ham. So I got it, and it works with this radio. In fact, talked to someone out in California. They were 30 miles east of LA.
And, I mean, it was they was down in my noise, but I could still hear them and and they could hear me. So it was, and and on the display, it tells me how many power are, how many watts of power are going out, how many watts of power is being reflected back, the efficiency of of the signal, and the SWR level meter.
[00:22:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So a tuner is not an SWR then?
[00:22:59] Rich Chelson:
It well, no. What it does is, makes a match between the antenna and the radio. It makes a 50 ohm match, and then it measures the forward versus the reflective power. And the reflective power is a wattage. When you send a 100 watts out k. Most every antenna reflects back some of that wattage because of the mismatch of the antenna.
[00:23:30] Bryan Goodwin:
And Okay. So if you had a, say, a 10 meter frequency and your antenna was actually 10 meters, you theoretically shouldn't have any re any wattage reflected back to you?
[00:23:48] Rich Chelson:
No. Okay. 10 meters, which is 28 megahertz. Okay. And let's take, 28.4 megahertz. Okay. That, a, halfway dipole would be about, 16 feet long, total total wire in the air, 16 feet. Okay? You send a 100 watts out up that coax into that antenna on a 16 foot long antenna. If you're on 10 meters, you should should, in theory, get a 1 to 1 match, a 1 to 1 SWR. K. Okay. If that length is long or short in any way, shape, or form, you will get up to 2 to 1, 3 to 1, or you can get up to 7, 8, 10 to 1 match. And anything over 3 to 1, the, radio shuts down, or it it it shuts off the communication because it's, too much, wattage coming back into the radio.
[00:25:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. And that's the like, so that that that's the wattage that's coming back through the coax back into the radio that way. Right? Correct.
[00:25:18] Rich Chelson:
Correct. K. What a what a quote, unquote tuner, and I'm using air quotes here. It's it's actually a trans match, but but a lot of people know it as a tuner. What a tuner does is is matches the, 50 ohm impedance out of the radio. Okay. Going due to coax out out to the antenna, and it it, it it tunes the it tunes the radio and the wattage coming back in, and it brings it down to, a it might drop the efficiency of the antenna, but it'll still transmit, and you can still get out. In other words, instead of having a 100% efficiency, you might wind up with 85%, which you can still make contacts, all over the world. You'll wind up with a 2 to 1 SWR, but you can still make contacts.
It's a tad confusing.
[00:26:30] Bryan Goodwin:
So, Ron, what what's that what's that sound again? What? What's that sound that you make again when it's just over your head? No. Thank you. Yeah. That that that's the one I heard. Yeah. I was honestly, I was trying to follow you. I sorta I understand the, you know, the wattage coming back because you you may crank out, you know, 10 watts or whatever. And so you're probably gonna get, like, like, 2, 3, 4 watts back. See, if it's 2 to 1, it'd probably be a, be a, be 5 watts back.
[00:27:10] Rich Chelson:
Right. And and see this thing, a 5 white coming back into the antenna.
[00:27:16] Bryan Goodwin:
That would do damage to the circuitry?
[00:27:19] Rich Chelson:
It could.
[00:27:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:27:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Five watts coming back. That's right. That's about, 6 dB loss. And, yeah, you lose 6 dB. You ain't talking to nobody. So That's why that's why I changed. So let me
[00:27:36] Duuude-Ron :
Go ahead. So let me be devil let let me be devil's advocate here. Okay. You're pushing out you're pushing out 10 plus.
[00:27:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[00:27:47] Duuude-Ron :
But if you receive more than 5, your electronics is gonna get fried.
[00:27:56] Rich Chelson:
It's possible. Yes. It could. It could happen. Why then are you pushing out 10
[00:28:03] Duuude-Ron :
if half of it can come back and and damage your electronics? Why you say this? Go ahead. Why not push out 7a half
[00:28:16] Bryan Goodwin:
and 3 and
[00:28:19] Duuude-Ron :
whatever comes back? I don't know if you know what? Right now, I'm just kinda running my mouth because I have no fucking clue.
[00:28:30] Rich Chelson:
Well no. Okay. No. No. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Okay. You see, that's the thing. Okay. Now hang on. The, 10 watts, let's say, you didn't know your antenna was gonna do this. Okay? So so let's say let's say you find out at 10 watts, 5 is coming back to you. That's no bueno. Okay? Now let's say you drop it to 7a half, and let's say 3a half or 3.75 comes back to you. That's still the same as losing 5 watts on 10. That's still a 6 dB loss. You you didn't change anything by a drop in wattage.
[00:29:11] Bryan Goodwin:
You just decreased your range, being able to talk. Okay.
[00:29:16] Rich Chelson:
I learned something. But, hey, it's it's like I said, it's it's not hard, but it is hard at first. Once you grasp it, it's it it it just freaking comes to you like second nature. You you can look at the numbers, and it doesn't matter if you're running 10 watts, 100 watts, 1,000 watts, or even 1500 watts. But that's why 1000 watts. So pure power. Power. Right. But no. That's why that's why hands are always striving for a one to one SWR. But at 1.51.6, that'll still rock.
[00:29:58] Duuude-Ron :
That'll be fine. I I'll be right back in a minute, guys. Alright, dude.
[00:30:04] Rich Chelson:
But, but, yeah, you know, a 2 to 1. I mean, I've ran I've made I've made contacts with a 2 to 1, you know, a 2.5 to 1.
[00:30:14] Duuude-Ron :
K.
[00:30:16] Rich Chelson:
You know, that that's where I probably have about 20% of my signal coming back. So it's about on, on a 100 watts, that's about I've got 80 watts going out and 20 watts coming back in. But, you know, I've done that once or twice. I don't do it very often. Right. You know? And that's that's why that's why I run transmatches on my radios so I can make sure I don't I don't because on this Elanco, when I hooked up this TransMatch and I I went talk on the radio Right. I, you know, I was on a clear frequency. No one else was on the channel. And I just threw my call sign out, and I said testing.
I had hit 8.52 SWR. So so and I was getting, like, a 24% efficiency. I had more wattage coming back through the trans match before it hit my radio. You see? It's another reason why. Okay. So what would be causing that? Just a mid mismatch between the, 50 ohm impedance from the radio to the antenna because I've got a 9 to 1 ballon. So it's running about 450 ohms or 500 ohms. It's it's running more ohmage than than the radio, wants or needs. So so that's why we use a a 9 to 1 ballon or onion and it, and it drops the ohmage from 500 down, down to a closer match with, 50 ohms, which is what the radio puts out. Okay. So why
[00:32:16] Bryan Goodwin:
use that word instead of just a deomer?
[00:32:25] Duuude-Ron :
He's not he's not bright as head. What?
[00:32:28] Rich Chelson:
That's a good one, dude. I've got to admit that's a good one. Because
[00:32:33] Bryan Goodwin:
what? Okay. Cause I was wanting to get, I was fixing to go and now the word of the day from, from rich is, and whatever that what's the word for deomer
[00:32:45] Rich Chelson:
A trans match.
[00:32:46] Bryan Goodwin:
A trans match? Okay. But you were using something else like a Dell d substance that that actually was taking the yet he had a d word is that is what it sounded like.
[00:33:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, a balan or an una? Dalan. Yeah. And what's a dalin?
[00:33:07] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Balan. Bravo. Balan. Like in in like as in balance?
[00:33:12] Rich Chelson:
No. Balu bravo alpha Lima uniform November.
[00:33:17] Bryan Goodwin:
K. So what is a balun?
[00:33:20] Rich Chelson:
It is it stands for balance to unbalanced. Okay. The, the, the, you get an education here. Okay? Hang on. Okay. The, the, Balan takes the, see, a balanced line is a coax line. The radio puts out 50 ohms. The, coax that comes out is 50 ohms. Okay? Now when you're running an in fed random wire like what I'm running, that's unbalanced.
[00:33:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. An in fed random wire. Yep. Mhmm. Okay. So what makes this wire random?
[00:34:01] Rich Chelson:
Well, when you put a signal to it, it just it just goes all kinds of berserk. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So it's unpredictable. Yes. It is. And, well, by math, no, it's not.
[00:34:17] Bryan Goodwin:
But, yes, it is. Okay. But that, that, that just, that scrambles my, my, my gourd, because I might go on if it's a certain length, which should be, you know, if it, is it the material that it's made of that does it or is it you know, or is it just, you know, copper, a copper antenna will just, you know, sometimes will just go bad and all of a sudden start sending, you know, wrong signals your way or something.
[00:34:49] Rich Chelson:
No. No. You see, every frequency or or, every band in AM radio, FM radio, ham radio, CB, everything. K. Like, has antennas that are a certain wavelength.
[00:35:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Yeah. That's the that's the length that you were we were talking about. Right. Right.
[00:35:14] Rich Chelson:
And, like like, 40 meters. Okay, is is is one wavelength. Okay? K. It's like oh, fuck. Make I mean, think here, dude. Well, it's nice. Doing this since you since you started launching about, you know, different types of,
[00:35:39] Bryan Goodwin:
of deomas and and and everything else. I'm, like, going, okay. Stop the r e
[00:35:46] Rich Chelson:
all here. Brain
[00:35:47] Bryan Goodwin:
full. Brain full.
[00:35:49] Rich Chelson:
Hang on. Hang on. Why am I thinking so hard when I got the fucking internet right here? It can help me
[00:35:55] Bryan Goodwin:
because we're old and we, that's what we're used to doing. Right. We will, we will bullshit our way into the truth one way or another. And then we'll go, oh yeah. Hey, let's look this up.
[00:36:10] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because you see what's funny, 40 meters k. Is, 7.2 just for simple math. 7 point 2. Hang on. Fucking Google. There it is. Let me get down here. Yes. Okay. 40 meters from 7.0 megahertz, 7.3 megahertz is 67 feet, give or take.
[00:36:55] Bryan Goodwin:
That's a long now is that from the because one of the things I've always kinda wondered is, is that the full length from the from the the transmitter itself out to the end of the antenna, or is that does that length actually start at the base of the antenna?
[00:37:18] Rich Chelson:
Well, it depends if you run it as a vertical or a dipole or an inverted v or
[00:37:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Got it. Of course. Like, the the answer will work for this one, but none of the other none of the other options of antennas that you've got. Right. No. Okay. Look. Just just to make it simple,
[00:37:40] Rich Chelson:
1 a a 40 meter wire antenna is 67 feet long. Okay?
[00:37:47] Bryan Goodwin:
K. And that sounds like it's a really long antenna.
[00:37:51] Rich Chelson:
It is.
[00:37:52] Bryan Goodwin:
So It's it's it's not the longest, but it is No. No. No. No. No. I mean, you could go to the ultra the ultra low frequencies, which were are miles upon miles long. I get that.
[00:38:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, say, 160, which is what hams can, run 160 meters, the length on that wire, Okay. Really? And then fed for 160. It's about a 130 feet.
[00:38:34] Bryan Goodwin:
So you see again that when I hear that, I'm thinking from the point that it, the signal leaves the transmitter itself. No. So it's just the antenna itself that could be 160
[00:38:48] Rich Chelson:
feet or a 130 feet. The wire the wire itself is a 130 feet, and then it goes into normally a 1 to 1 ballon or Okay. Something like that. And the coax comes from the transmitter and whether you're running a a 50 foot, 75 foot, 100 foot, 150 foot, it runs up into the in, the ballon. Right? And and then it sends a signal out. Okay. Oh, so the ballon is actually in between the antenna and the coax? Yep. Yep. And so and so the thing is is that's why that's why and you see what's funny though with, with a 40 meter wire at 67 feet, it's actually a multibanded antenna because you can make you can get contacts and make it work on 20 meters. You can make it work on 15 meters because 15 meters is a third harmonic of 40 meters.
[00:39:55] Bryan Goodwin:
And I believe Yeah. I I get that because it would the the signal itself wouldn't actually have
[00:40:01] Rich Chelson:
to technically run the full length of the, of the antenna. Right. And I think 10 meters is a 5th harmonic. I could be wrong on that. But the reason why the reason why I'm running a 41 foot instead of a 67, a 130, or any other thing in between is, 41 feet is, one of the lengths that will run 40 meters down to, 6 meters and not not touch any other harmonics of any other frequency. Let's see. I think 73 feet is, another one that won't touch any, other harmonics. As long as you stay away from the other harmonics, you can run what I like to call the odd numbers.
And, I mean, they're not all odd, but they're they're they're odd numbers. They're just Okay. They're they're just called odd numbers. Well, most of them are, but, yeah, there's 29, 355, 41, 58, 71, 84, 107, 119, 148, 347, 407, and 423. And you can run them by themselves with either a 9 to 1 or a 49 to 1, unun, and talk all over the world.
[00:41:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So what is an unum?
[00:41:53] Rich Chelson:
Unbalanced.
[00:41:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, that's the unbalanced thing again. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. You you filled my brain up. I'm starting to get shit dripping out here.
[00:42:01] Rich Chelson:
No. You're fine, dude. I dude, this is I'm telling you, this is this is a lot of information. And, I mean and you see, as as a tech, I had to learn some of this stuff. I I I didn't have to learn near the stuff. But when I went to general, oh my god. I I I had to learn all this stuff. Now now now did I have to memorize it? Not really. No. For the test, yeah, I kinda did. Now there is still one other, level above me, and that's extra. And that's what that's when we get into Smith charts, inductance, capacitance of antennas, radios, all this other stuff. You know? We get into and and I I just for some reason, I I, right now I cannot get my brain to work.
[00:42:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah, because it's full of all this other stuff.
[00:43:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And I need to add, I need to add,
[00:43:07] Bryan Goodwin:
more to that. Gonna say, get yourself get yourself a couple terabyte external hard drives and plug them into yours and that offload some of that stuff. Good grief, man. Right.
[00:43:20] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, this yeah. This is this I mean, and I don't know. I I mean, what? This is what? My 17th year of doing this stuff. So, yeah, some of the stuff I've forgotten, but, yeah, if I think about it long enough, I can I can remember it?
[00:43:39] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? But It it comes percolating back to the top.
[00:43:42] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. But no. It's and and, see, that's the thing. It's just I don't know. I just I just love I just love talking on the radio, man. And it's just a lot of fun because, you know, still and and this is another reason why I got this Elenca radio. This is a true analog radio. It has no bells and whistles,
[00:44:05] Bryan Goodwin:
no fancy disc Oh, that's this okay. Okay. Okay. I know which one you're talking about now. This one. And and
[00:44:11] Rich Chelson:
and it's the radio, a wire antenna, and power. That's it. That's it. And, and I it's just, it's like, I love it. I can, man. I can, so, so that's a really good one for
[00:44:27] Bryan Goodwin:
like, if fit was really hit the sham.
[00:44:31] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Okay. Definitely. Yep.
[00:44:37] Bryan Goodwin:
So you won't go all the way back to the cave, man. You'll just go back to old wild west days.
[00:44:43] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yep. And that's and and you see and because, I mean, I love my Yaesu. I I love my Zykoo radios, but those are SDR or software defined radios. Right. So so if something was to happen, I would lose those radios. Probably this one here, I ain't going to. As long as I can find a working battery or power, 12 volt power Right. I'm game, dude. I'm good. So Okay. Throw a wire in the air, talk to whoever's out there.
[00:45:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Before it hits the ground, you gotta be real fast.
[00:45:27] Rich Chelson:
No, I would, I would, Hey, anybody? Hey, there. Can you hear me? Damn it. I would hang it in a tree. Oh, there you go. That might help. That would help out a lot. Yeah. Or or I mean, I've got one fixing to get another one. I could get a I've got a ground mounted vertical, so I don't even need to hang in the tree. I just need to stab it in the ground.
[00:45:58] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. I know that I've missed all of this conversation. Can you hear me?
[00:46:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes, sir. We can.
[00:46:08] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Just wanna make sure. Even though I admit this whole conversation, we're going back to not caveman days, but the wild west. Right. And obviously, this had to do with something about just the fucking world going to fucking hell in a handbasket, I take it.
[00:46:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's if if, if the world was to go go just completely tits up. And, and, yeah, we we lost the, lost the electrical grids and stuff. Not so much, you know, it's not so much somebody dropped an EMP on us or something. But say, you know, something some just FUBARed beyond all all all Okay. Ex understanding. And so, yeah, we've we've gone back. Most people who use just the the computer based, radios and stuff, their stuff would pretty much die. Alright? They need the they would need software based, information while Okay. Which has a a just an analog. No digital to it. It's analog.
And so it, top radio. And that's what, that's the one that would take us back to the wild west. We wouldn't have to go back to caveman.
[00:47:27] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So if everything went fucking FUBAR and went completely sideways
[00:47:34] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:47:35] Duuude-Ron :
Who the fuck would give a shit about talking on a radio?
[00:47:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, those who happen to have the analog radio still.
[00:47:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, now hold on. Hold on here. A lot of hams, believe it or not, the reason why we do this, it's it's not just to sit here and bullshit. It it's, because, like, during Katrina, during these two recent hurricanes in Florida I was gonna say, Darren, how are you? Hams packed up and drove down to Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Yeah. Passed traffic, health and welfare traffic, supply traffic. Hamm's hams take their stuff and they go to the devastation and they set up their rigs and their antennas and they they coordinate with the Red Cross, the Salvation Army, and all like this. And and they get traffic passed around, and this is how a lot of your news agencies gets their information because there's nothing down there. And hams Yeah. Because yeah. Hams are using
[00:48:42] Duuude-Ron :
themselves. I no. I can I I got it 100%, And yes, thank you very much for correcting me? Yes. Okay. I can understand that the hams pack up and go down there, and they're using their stuff as a repeater station. Okay? To be able because okay. Like, my GRMS radio, how far of a distance do I have on the radio that I have in my g my GMers? How far of a distance do I have before I can't talk to anybody? It varies.
[00:49:21] Rich Chelson:
It it varies with line of sight because if you have buildings in the way, maybe a half a mile in in Right. Exactly. In a I could you you might have 10 miles.
[00:49:33] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? I have never gotten 10 miles out of my fucking GMR ever. Okay? I may be lucky when I'm out wheeling to get a half a mile. Right. But you put up a repeater station, which the hams can do. Now you are getting that direct line of sight communication. Mhmm. And with the hams, it doesn't have to be direct line of sight. It it has to be a possibly a direct line of sight to the repeaters, but then the repeaters carry it all over the fucking place. Right. Okay? So, yes, a ham radio maxes out the distance for communications for FEMA, for Red Cross, for
[00:50:26] Rich Chelson:
fire, ambulance, police. National Weather Service, NOAA, everybody.
[00:50:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. All those for the factor of communicating between those agencies. Yes. The ham radios, I get it. Why? Because you can fucking talk to Brazil. You told me, can talk to whoever it is that you need to talk to. Right. And, yeah, those repeaters are gonna do that, but that direct line of communication radios, okay, goes into one repeater. The repeater sends it to the next repeater, and then that direct line of communication, handheld radio, will receive it. Yeah. Right? Okay. So, yeah, I can I can understand that? But going back to the stone age, what are we gonna what are we gonna use for it? Alright. I'll I'll be right back again, gentlemen. Sorry.
[00:51:27] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:51:28] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[00:51:34] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm.
[00:51:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Wonder what's going on with Ron.
[00:51:37] Rich Chelson:
I don't know.
[00:51:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Poor guy. Can't even stay on the on on the the call with this. Right. So
[00:51:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I I understand what what, you know, and and see that's the thing with with a with a f, HF Communications. There are no repeaters involved. That is a straight signal coming out of my radio going into someone else's antenna. Let's say it's over in England. It's it's my signal going to his his antenna going into his radio, and I'm talking to him. There is no repeater involved in HF. Right. When it's, when this emergency comes, a lot of it is, simplex. Now, there are hands that do use the, repeater stations as as long as the antennas are still up.
Right. And the and the shacks aren't flooded. But then, yeah, they'll, they'll, use the repeaters and, yeah, 2 meters can get out 50, a 100 miles. So, you know, it it it it varies. Right. And dude's back,
[00:52:54] Bryan Goodwin:
and he's back again.
[00:52:56] Duuude-Ron :
They don't know. Back again. And I may have to drop off. Oh, it's not. It but, you know, we're we're not gonna go into it. But, no, nothing is nothing is okay. Nothing has been okay for years, and it's not gonna be okay probably for the next several years. I I understand that that might just be a guest who fucking knows, But it's not fucking nothing nothing is okay. That's why I say, I could really care less if I wake up tomorrow because nothing is okay in my world. I'm sorry.
[00:53:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm. So what would it take for it to be okay?
[00:53:43] Duuude-Ron :
Win the motherfucking lottery. That's it.
[00:53:53] Bryan Goodwin:
But would that really be the case?
[00:53:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I if I won the lottery tomorrow, I would still much rather not fucking wake up. I'm just I'm exhausted with fucking life. I am fucking just totally exhausted. Yeah. And I don't wanna go on to detail in this arena right here. I'm sick. But, no, nothing it hasn't been okay for fucking years. But you know? Anyway, sorry about going off on the fucking radio.
[00:54:49] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You're you're you're good. Fine. Good. No? I mean, we're that's one of the things we keep keep doing is we're gonna we're gonna get this needle down to where we, a, find out that there's something other than that winning the lottery that will actually make you make you, not happy. Make you feel fulfilled. Make you feel accomplished.
[00:55:14] Duuude-Ron :
That there is nothing right now. There is no I have 0. No. I take it back. I have negative amount of joy, amount of anything in my life right now. What is going to resolve that? You know, like I said, if I won the lottery, I could get all my fucking bills paid. I could get everybody that I owe money to, get them paid, get fucking every I wouldn't just so I don't have to fucking have so much goddamn weight on my shoulders. And it's not and it's just shit.
[00:56:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I'd
[00:56:21] Duuude-Ron :
I'm fucking I'm just tired. I am fucking exhausted. I don't wanna do I don't wanna fucking wake up. That's just it. I'm fucking exhausted with life, With all the shit that's happened to me and it's fucking the shit that's outside of my control, but it fucking gets me involved with it is driving me fucking insane. Right? I really don't care anymore. I'm just so upset that I don't I just don't care if I wake up. Now am I gonna fucking do anything? No. That is not my yeah. Yeah. That is I could make it my fucking decision. I could very well make it my decision, but I'm not going to because that's God's lane.
And I believe in that. But damn it. Just fucking take me tonight, and I'd be happy. But I'll probably hear the alarm clock go off in the morning and then, get to go to fucking work just like 98% of the world gets to go and fucking go to work. Why? Because the bill man cometh. And yeah. And everybody has their own issues going on with their life. I get that. I really do. And, yeah, there are people that are a lot a lot worse off than I am. I I got that too, but I'm just fucking tired of my life. Would you like to have it? I can give it to you.
Anybody wanna trade? No. Don't answer that fucking question.
[00:58:35] Rich Chelson:
No one would probably if if if if we traded dude, I would probably, explode both our world. But that's me.
[00:58:51] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm just wondering what, what the world, what Ron's world would look like if Ron took the selfish path, stopped being so sacrificial in his actions and started living for himself.
[00:59:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You have no clue, is that? I saw that meme, that same type of meme the other day run across my Facebook
[00:59:31] Rich Chelson:
is Which one's that?
[00:59:34] Unknown:
Well, I I thought I'd
[00:59:37] Duuude-Ron :
I don't remember I sent it to you or not or Rich or who I sent it to. But it it boils down to why does everybody worry about pleasing other individuals when they should just be put trying to please themselves. Amen. And you're right.
[00:59:59] Rich Chelson:
I Yeah. Preach it, brother. Amen.
[01:00:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I will I will one day I will hopefully god, one day fucking just take a walk and not fucking turn around and just fucking leave. And whatever happens to every anybody else, you know, but yeah. And what happens to me, you know, it'll just be me.
[01:00:36] Bryan Goodwin:
So what's keeping you from doing The The majority of that. Not all of it because, but the majority of that.
[01:00:48] Duuude-Ron :
Funds.
[01:00:52] Unknown:
Funds.
[01:00:54] Duuude-Ron :
That's why I say if I won the lottery, I would just I could turn I could just turn around and fucking walk the other direction, get done with what I needed to do with funds, and just fucking leave.
[01:01:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. But How much how much would it cost? Let's just just to continue playing this this little mind, this little little, thought experiment. Uh-huh. How much would it cost for you to just head on over to Rich's house?
[01:01:30] Duuude-Ron :
$500,000.
[01:01:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Why would it cost that much?
[01:01:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, let's see. Because God only knows what the judge is gonna say in the divorce settlement.
[01:01:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So you're worried about you're worried first about the divorce. Alright? Oh, well. Yeah. What if you were to able to set it up to where you on the divorce settlement, say you got, what stuff would How much of the house would you actually want?
[01:02:04] Unknown:
Nothing.
[01:02:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So you could actually probably Nothing. Since it's since it's just you and just the missus, I bet you could probably settle a lot of it with just going. You've got it all. Minus the Jeep, which is my only form of transportation. You've got the house, the gr the contents of the garage.
[01:02:32] Duuude-Ron :
Well, all that everything would just the house would get sold. She can have whatever fucking after the taxes that I'm gonna have to pay because it's what the fuck taxes is that? Fucking something gains tax.
[01:02:53] Rich Chelson:
Capital gains? That's not in play yet.
[01:02:56] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:02:59] Bryan Goodwin:
It would be you this. If you if you make money off if she was to turn around and sell the house. Well, the house is the full what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying is Right. Say say we go through the divorce and you go, alright. She's got the house. You sign your name off on the deed just like it's hers. It's a 100% hers. I'm not part of any of it no more. You had to wash your hands with a gains tax, dude. You wouldn't get an ounce of capital gains tax. No. But also, I mean, she got to keep any of the money, any of all the money she could probably sell, make a make a $1,000,000 off of it. You know, she could probably turn around and and sell everything inside the house and make a little bit more. And then, you know, you've got, you know, but you're again, you're free. Whatever it is that you think is holding you back on the house, whatever you think is holding you back on the divorce.
Your, what is the worst thing that could happen? If you were to just say, okay. I'm done. I'm walking out of here. What's the worst thing that you think could happen?
[01:04:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, the house would go into foreclosure and
[01:04:13] Rich Chelson:
No. That's that's but but you see, you're walking away and giving her everything. So so so so whatever happened to the house would be of no concern of yours.
[01:04:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But let's let's let's, yeah. That's that's a good point. But also, what if your name's still on the on the title and she gets foreclosed on, it reflects on your on your credit account and all that. So what? What are you making that mean? 7 years from now, it's gone. Mhmm. It's a fart in the wind. Well,
[01:04:54] Duuude-Ron :
well, yeah. But then there's alimony and
[01:04:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Possible alimony, but I bet you if you were to give her everything in in the house minus the Jeep and some clothes on your back, there's a good chance you could probably walk off with very little, if any, alimony.
[01:05:11] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I'm sure. I'm sure. I just
[01:05:16] Bryan Goodwin:
first, I need the fucking money to, like, hire a fucking attorney to That that did not. Okay. Well, that I I see those I see those attorneys on on street corners that say, no fault divorce, or no contest divorce for $250. They still have those up on, up on the street corners there in, in Temple? No. I've never seen them. Have you learned? Okay. I see them in Dallas all the time.
[01:05:45] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Yeah. No. They don't have them here, but, you know, that
[01:05:52] Bryan Goodwin:
But you'd also have to I think it's one of those cases that you get what you pay for.
[01:05:57] Rich Chelson:
But but, dude, but, dude, look at it this way. You could get paid on Friday, pack your shit up in your Jeep, drive over to my house. You're not destitute because, 1, you still have your VA disability coming in. Okay. So that's your money guaranteed. Nobody can touch it. Alright? And you'll still have a paycheck from your job and take a vacation because you've got a month's worth of vacation. Take vacation and then switch to air gas over here. Guess what? You're working. You've got a place to stay over here. So you're not you're not dead in the water, dude.
There there is No. I'm not. You know, you No. I'm not dead in the water. In any way, shape, or form. So so, I mean, you could you could easily do this if you're so tired.
[01:06:56] Bryan Goodwin:
And we're not saying, you know, we're not we're not the the, you know, team divorce. Yeah. You know, whether you decide to have it or not, is is beside the point. It's just to use that was the that was the first thing that came out of your mouth was, well, we've got the divorce and she would, you know, all the money that's coming out of that. Well, that's a, that's a circumstance is all that is. How you wanna look at that circumstances completely upon you, man. Right. If you wanna look at it as, oh my God, I am gonna be financially ruined. Well, you're gonna be fine. You're financially ruined already. So who cares if you get for an an even more financially ruined?
You know, if you're if all of a sudden she you know, you're you've pride yourself, you know, half a $1,000,000 in debt. Alright. Well, let's let's declare bankruptcy and let's go let's move on down the road.
[01:07:51] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:07:51] Bryan Goodwin:
I got it. It's a it's a 7 year agreement on your on your record.
[01:07:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I
[01:08:01] Bryan Goodwin:
You might have to pay a little bit more here or there. You know, you might have a little higher interest rate for
[01:08:07] Duuude-Ron :
for a bit. I've already already fucking been there, done that, got the t shirt. I already filed bankruptcy once.
[01:08:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay. Okay.
[01:08:16] Duuude-Ron :
That was 32 years ago.
[01:08:18] Rich Chelson:
I see that. But so so so Yep. So so, actually, however long ago it was, since now it's over 7 years, no one gives a shit.
[01:08:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. It's not it's not showing up on anything. No.
[01:08:32] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I know it's oh, I know it's not. I know it's not. I mean, it's dude, you can I mean, if you can a lot of things that I could do? Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:08:43] Rich Chelson:
You can step whenever you want to. You just have to want to step
[01:08:49] Bryan Goodwin:
and you, and you will, and it sounds horrible, but living for yourself, there's a, there's a, it's actually, they call it the motto in the, in the, in the book, Atlas shrugged. That is a motto and a pledge I've been trying to live myself and it's tough. It's a tough one, but the, the, the pledge is I solemnly swear upon my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man or never, nor ask another man to live for mine.
[01:09:25] Rich Chelson:
Amen.
[01:09:27] Bryan Goodwin:
That sounds horrible because we've been taught so much that, that, you know, altruism sacrificing yourself for those around you is a very noble thing. And it's not, especially when you are the, the, the provider of those around you. And that's kinda what the Atlas Shrug's all about. It's about the the the the thinking industrialist as opposed to the non thinking, looters. And so you have the industrialists who are all who are the ones who are making money, and it's easy for them to make money because they look at money in a completely different way than what the the looters look at it. The looters think they could feed just feed off of the industrials.
And what would happen if the industrialists finally said, you know what? Fuck you. I'm give I'm burning my dream to the ground so you can't have it no more. I'm doing the most loving thing I possibly can. I am taking the business that I have put my blood, sweat, and tears into. I have worked 25 years on building this thing. I am shutting it down. I am cashing it out. There is nothing left and I'm gone and they just, and they just walk away. They cut, they say they retire, but they just walk away. And what actually ends up happening in the book is they slowly are 1 by 1 day by day, the brains of, of America are disappearing.
And what happens to the world when the, the producers, the ones who are supposed to be sacrificing their soul to the, to the society stops allowing society to leech off of them. Great book. If you not ever read Atlas shrugged, go online, get a, get a, an audible account and your first, your first book's free. And I'm not a, I'm not a, sponsor for, or, or or, audible audible and the sponsor of our show. But you could you can get that, and you can do Atlas Shrugged. Granted, it's a you're gonna listen to a good long book. That thing's a good 62 hours long. Damn.
It's a 1,000 plus, page home. Amazing book. I read it once a year or while I listen to it once a year at the beginning of the year, January 1st, boom, Atlas shrugged. And I, it will take me 2 weeks to re to listen to it and then come around June or July, it just kind of varies from time to time. Then I listened to another iron ran book. It's called the fountain head. And that is about men living their dream, not doing whatever, what the society wants you to do, but you living your dream, you have your vision and you seek that vision out. And that's, what's been been power and relaxed male for these
[01:12:53] Rich Chelson:
past 7 years is that I have this dream. I have this vision and it's going to be done.
[01:13:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Whether I have to piss everybody in the society off and I finally get, get them to see that I am around or I come across the secret of whatever it is that I'm missing, which I have a feeling it's just that I'm not getting out there. The the formula, everything I've kind of seen, I've heard and and stuff, it boils down to 3 things for for the business is meet new people, tell them I'm a coach offer to help them. That's those are the 3 steps. The issue I run into is I, I'm not, I'm not meeting people to be able to get the other 2 steps. So
[01:13:45] Rich Chelson:
Well, that that could pose a problem. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little tough. Yeah.
[01:13:50] Bryan Goodwin:
So because I like to sit inside the truck instead of going out into the truck. Well, there's no accident. There's no one in the damn truckers lounges anymore.
[01:13:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. No. No. Because they're all sitting in their truck watching movies. Yeah.
[01:14:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Because yeah. Go in there and, yeah, there's still a television running, and I can't stand watching the damn television because, you know, they've got it on some channel that's got commercials. So you're like, Hey. It's really oh, it's commercial.
[01:14:16] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:14:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, hey. It's back on. Oh, it's commercial.
[01:14:20] Rich Chelson:
It's like, goddamn. Hey, Brian. Hold on one second. Dude, look at your phone. I'm gonna turn my video on. You seeing it? Seeing it?
[01:14:35] Bryan Goodwin:
You there, dude? Yeah. I'm here. Okay.
[01:14:39] Rich Chelson:
Are you looking at your phone?
[01:14:41] Duuude-Ron :
I am I am looking at my phone.
[01:14:44] Rich Chelson:
Do you see what I'm holding up?
[01:14:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. 2 grumpy dudes or 2 grumpy vets and a dude on air. Yeah. No. I can't I can't fucking no. I can't fucking see what you got in your hand.
[01:15:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's that's that's what I'm showing you is that's that's what's in in my hand, dude. I went to Hobby Lobby today, man. He spent money, I get.
[01:15:14] Unknown:
Okay. That sucks. I
[01:15:18] Rich Chelson:
I I didn't spend as much I didn't spend as much as I did last week. Thank god. I was I was glad for that. But, yeah, I saw this, and it said it's it was a lighted, dry erase board. And I'm like, what the hell? That looks interesting. Okay. And it was 6 Okay. And it was $6.99. And so I got it and got it home and brought it all out, and I was I was writing on it and looking at it in the light. And I'm like, oh, shit. That's cool. And then I thought, oh, shit. I'm gonna do that. And then so I wrote that, and I I've been I've been I showed Brian already. I've been waiting to show you. I was gonna show you, but you kept jumping off there for a little bit, so I figured I'd wait till you got back on for a few minutes.
But but, yeah, I yeah. I saw that, and it's like, I thought I thought that thing was cool as shit.
[01:16:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. Rich is very easily entertained, almost as easily as entertained as I am, but I'm still a little more. Busy.
[01:16:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It was But when you when you had it up, it it I saw what it what it had on there. Oh. But then it was a different picture of what you're projecting in your hand. It was
[01:16:45] Rich Chelson:
Hang on.
[01:16:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:16:48] Rich Chelson:
Hang on. No. It's just it's just showing Oh, it's the okay.
[01:16:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See, it's It's reflecting your screen.
[01:16:58] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You just say the computer screen. Okay. Yeah.
[01:17:02] Duuude-Ron :
That is what I thought you were holding up.
[01:17:05] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. No. See if Okay. Yeah. See if I liked it. There's me. But Right. Okay. But yeah. No. I, yeah, I found this for 6.99 at at Hobby Lobby, and I I I just thought it was cool as shit.
[01:17:20] Duuude-Ron :
And I was like
[01:17:21] Rich Chelson:
Alright. And then and then I got home, and and I I was playing with the dry erase markers, and that was when I had the moment. And I was like, I could do that because I had been wanting a non air sign just because just because I'm weird. And, I had saw 1 on eBay. It that it came out of an old radio station from the thirties or forties, and there's one Okay. There was one $27100 for it. I'm like, there ain't no way I'm paying $27100 for it.
[01:17:54] Duuude-Ron :
I don't Gotcha. I don't care. Now okay. Now here again, you spent 6.99.
[01:18:00] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:18:02] Duuude-Ron :
No big deal. Okay. Well, I spent a little more now, but yeah. Okay. That's neither here nor there how much you spent. Now you have your background. Right? Yeah. On your computer, you have your background.
[01:18:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:18:18] Duuude-Ron :
Why can't you put a big on air sign on your background? Neon around it. You know? You know, like the old radio stations on air. You know, and have that for your background.
[01:18:36] Rich Chelson:
I could maybe do that. You know, I had I had not thought of that, to be honest with you, Duke. Thank you for for for putting that idea into my head. I just might have to work on that.
[01:18:49] Duuude-Ron :
And you know what? I hope that enlightens. I hope that just that statement right there just puts a smile on your face. As soon as you do it, it will have been worth, you know, the breath that I used to make the statement or the suggestion with.
[01:19:11] Rich Chelson:
You kill me, dude. But yeah. No. I yeah. I had to show you that. It was cool. And and it it's cool. You know?
[01:19:23] Duuude-Ron :
It is. Now now what you can do is when you're you can attach that to the back window of your Jeep and write the sign that says get off my ass. Right. Plug it in for whatever plug you have, and then, you know, use it as well, you'd have to get the and too bad you can't get, like, a strobing switch where it keeps going on and off to get everybody's attention, get the fuck off my back. And, of course, tell them that they are number 1. Of course, we can't forget that. Tell everybody that they're number 1 and get off your ass.
[01:20:08] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I could, and I've I've they've they've got signs that'll, actually, Brian, my Brian, had a sign that that had a had it it would either wave if you hit the button once or if you hit the button again, it flipped you off.
[01:20:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And you put it gave you a peace sign.
[01:20:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Or or just a full hand wave. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen those and everything, but yeah. No.
[01:20:40] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shit. And I would love to have one of those, and it would be telling people that they are number 1 all the time. That's the only selection I would ever do. You're number 1. And, actually, if I got 2 of them, I could tell them that they don't make the top 10 because they're number 11.
[01:21:05] Rich Chelson:
I see. So,
[01:21:06] Duuude-Ron :
you know, that
[01:21:09] Rich Chelson:
But no. I saw that, and I I just I got home. I was writing on it, and I had this idea, and I was like, oh, shit. That's cool. So
[01:21:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Now now that I was able to see the the boundary of it and why the reflection of the your computer screen, that's what I thought you were holding, but I couldn't tell what it was. Even though that sign was up there, I could see it.
[01:21:40] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:21:41] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and see you through it. Yeah. That optical illusion was just kind of, messing with my mind.
[01:21:50] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay. Okay.
[01:21:53] Duuude-Ron :
But Which is not very hard to fucking do anymore.
[01:21:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think I might I think I might put a shelf right above my monitor up here and put this on my shelf because it's it's just kinda cool.
[01:22:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And then work on your background and you know what? Your background, you could have as, like, an old radio station and have the, you know, when they put that 5 hour tape on.
[01:22:32] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:22:34] Duuude-Ron :
You know, you can have that in the background and a little mixing thing in the background that used you and you know that those all used to take up a freaking wall. Right? Back when, fucking what the hell is his name? DJ Wolfman Jack.
[01:22:51] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:22:52] Duuude-Ron :
Back in those days, the freaking net piece of electronics that I have in my hand for this phone, it took a fucking wall to produce a shit. And then put your on air sign and that could be your background. And you would be the man, the myth, the legend in your own fucking mind.
[01:23:13] Rich Chelson:
My god. You know what? I might have to work on that tomorrow.
[01:23:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You can see what you see what my background is.
[01:23:24] Unknown:
It's dark.
[01:23:27] Duuude-Ron :
But it had a little figure. It's dark, and it has a little figure of Of a dude. A person, and that's as far as my background goes.
[01:23:40] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I might I might I might I might have to play with Canva tomorrow on that.
[01:23:48] Duuude-Ron :
Well, me, personally, I gotta go to work, so I can't do anything. Right. Well and no. 2, I don't have a computer, so I really can't do shit. So but that's okay.
[01:23:59] Rich Chelson:
You've got a tablet. You can play on Canva.
[01:24:03] Bryan Goodwin:
You can play on Canva on your phone. Oh, okay. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I do most of mine at, especially for the, for the blog posts. I'll be I've here recently, I've just I haven't been getting it fully wrapped up till about, about Tuesday, Tuesday evening. And that's when I'm putting everything together.
[01:24:25] Duuude-Ron :
And what's that site called?
[01:24:28] Bryan Goodwin:
It's Canva. It's, Charlie alpha Victor
[01:24:31] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Canva.
[01:24:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. It's canva.com, c a n v a.
[01:24:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That shit would go over my head real quick.
[01:24:45] Rich Chelson:
Not really.
[01:24:47] Bryan Goodwin:
It's actually it's it's really intuitive.
[01:24:52] Rich Chelson:
And and if you mess up the top up and says, what?
[01:24:58] Duuude-Ron :
Here's the problem. I, myself, am not user friendly. Now that site and all that may be user friendly, but I, myself, am not am not user friendly. I'm not friendly period, but, you know, hey, that's that was just a kind of a, what's the oxymoron that I was trying to prove.
[01:25:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Oxymoron is a word that, 2 opposite words that make, make a new word.
[01:25:35] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Then that's completely there's no oxymoron there then. I never knew what that meaning was.
[01:25:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Oxymoron like, jumbo shrimp. Military intelligence.
[01:25:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's a big oxymoron.
[01:25:53] Duuude-Ron :
No. That's just a moron. There's no, there ain't not one bit of oxy about it. It's every bit of a moron. Military intelligence? Yeah. No. Does not exist, but that's okay. And now now I just fucking drew a blank of what the fuck I was even just gone. Whatever I was thinking about, it that we were talking about, it the other than oxymoron is gone. Probably because I'm so fucking agitated with life. Yeah. Anyway, so what the hell were we talking about beforehand?
[01:26:40] Rich Chelson:
Well, we was talking about my sign in the background.
[01:26:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yes. Okay. Yeah. That's right. I forgot that we were talking about that. Okay. So oh, yeah. Me making a sign. Yeah. No. You know, ain't that ain't gonna happen. I'm not making no background because yeah. No. And that may be user friendly. I absolutely believe you that that is that site is user friendly, but I'm not very user friendly myself. For all those that are out there listening to this podcast, I'm sorry. That this this fucking old man is just fabbling. So, anyway, what are you guys' thoughts?
[01:27:36] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll try not to think. He gets me into too much trouble.
[01:27:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Not about me. We were gonna take the focus off of me now. What's the good news for the day?
[01:27:51] Rich Chelson:
I don't have any. Somebody else should have some good news. I don't have any. I'm sorry. Well, no. You see, I don't have any good news because, one, it was 46 degrees this morning. It was a little chilly. It's well, I do have a little bit of good news because I'm a make some gumbo tomorrow. But then I went to my physical therapy, appointment. Oh, check this shit out. I did not know this was going on. No one told me about this. And, I was sitting out there waiting waiting to go back, and this guy comes out and hollers for me. And I said, yeah.
And I had never seen this guy for. I didn't know who it was. And he took off and got a chair and sat over this one spot. He's like, have a seat here. And I get there, and he sits behind me and puts his thumb on my back. First words out of my mouth was, where's Rachel? Because that was the girl I had been seeing. Right?
[01:28:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:28:52] Rich Chelson:
And it wasn't her hand on my back. It didn't feel right. And and come to find out well well, she's, I guess, a student or whatnot, so it was her last day today. And, she, you know, was going somewhere else, in the VA to, I guess, I guess, continue her learning. And so Right. Yeah. Uh-huh. So I had this new guy, and and I wasn't I wasn't too sure about him. And it was funny. He was he was pressing on my neck. He was using, like, 4 fingers. And I mean, just pressing the fuck out of my neck. And I asked him and I mean, while he's pressing and, I mean, he's pressing hard.
And I just asked him. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm loosening your muscles in your neck. Really? He said, okay. He's like, let me know when, it hurts. Okay. I'll let him go. So I'm like, dude, you ain't even touched my pain level yet. What's up? Finally, after a while, I said, yeah. I'm I'm about tired of it. So so he pressed somewhere else on my neck, and, you know, we were talking. He was kinda okay. And, I I was like, dude, I'm like, what? He's like, you must be in a lot of pain. I'm like, why? He's like, shit. Most people I don't even get half this half of this tension that I'm putting on you, and they're they're screaming and crying. He's like and I'm like, yeah. So he's like, dude, you shouldn't be like this. I said, well, I said Surprise.
This is my pain level. And then then he switches sides finally because, you know, I told him the second place was like, okay. I'm about done with that. And he goes over to my right side, and he fucking presses in the middle of my neck. And, I mean, he is he is strap pressing as hard as he fucking can. And and I'm just sitting there. It's like, okay, dude. You know? And I I let him go for, I don't know, 3, 4 miles just sitting there, just letting him press on my neck. And it's like he's like, does that hurt? And there was one spot he moved or something.
And I said well, I told him just on a regular press, I said, dude, this is a normal, pain level late for me. So, I mean, this is nothing. This is normal. This is everyday shit. He's like, okay. And, and he moved his fingers, and I'm like, yeah. Okay. You're done there. That's good. And then, he pressed on on the second spot on the right side. And this guy just couldn't fucking believe that I just sat there and let him basically press the insides of my neck, press the fuck out of him. And he was like, wow, dude. He's like, yeah. He's like most people like you. They're they're wusses, actually.
He's like, you've taken more pain than anything. I said, no. It just that's just the way it is, man. It's just but this guy was okay, I guess.
[01:32:33] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So he's pressing on your neck Yeah. For what purpose?
[01:32:40] Bryan Goodwin:
To loosen my muscles up. Yeah. Yep. You use, pressure points and and direct, direct pressure to, to break loose, knotted up muscles.
[01:32:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. Did any of your muscle loosen up?
[01:32:55] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They did for couple hours.
[01:32:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:32:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No. It it it did work. It it it, driving home, I noticed I could I could move my neck a little better. Right now, it's it's, I feel it tightening back up, but it is, you know, but, I don't know. It's just, you know, but yeah, coming home, I did feel it's like, it's like, oh, damn. I can't I can't move my neck a little better. Now now I can't move it like I did earlier, but, yeah. Yeah. He did that and he, pressed on a muscle on my shoulder blade, and it made the top of my shoulder hurt. I mean, really hurt. I don't know how, but he says somehow it's it's it's all interconnected.
Right. Yeah. And and by him pressing on the spot in my shoulder blade, I'm like, yo, dude. What the hell are you doing? I feel that in my shoulder. And he's like, where? And I I pointed to it. I said, it really fucking hurts right now. And he eased the pressure up just a little bit because that one that one really freaking made me take notice. Then he switched shoulders. So, yeah, I got tortured today.
[01:34:37] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:34:39] Rich Chelson:
So but it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't by my pretty girl, Rachel. I was upset. I wanted to be tortured by her. And that's the thing. I don't even know this guy's name.
[01:34:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, are you?
[01:34:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. He didn't even tell me his name. Like, what the hell? You fucking torture me and not even tell me your name? What's up with that? It's like, shit. Come on now. Give me something here. But yeah. No. I did that, and I got a new exercise I gotta do. I don't know if I'm gonna like it, though, but you y'all ought to try it. It's very simple. You take your hand. When you're about to go through a doorway, just stop right there. Put your hand kinda down low right on the door jamb. Right? Yep. And then twist ever so slightly. Twist and let off.
Don't hang on to it. Twist and let off because there's a nerve in there. And if it's tight, you ain't gonna twist very far and your fucking shoulder is gonna feel like like yeah. The the hottest chili pepper in the world ain't got nothing on you. That pain is gonna hurt quick.
[01:36:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. And, So you're twisting your arms, or you're twisting your your body? Or Your body.
[01:36:27] Rich Chelson:
Body. Just just basically place your hand on the door jam down low.
[01:36:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But okay. So is it you put the palm of your hand against the door facing or the back of your hand? Palm of your hand. Okay. So have your hands have your hands palms palms laying out. You got it on the inside of the door jam, and then you're slowly twisting your body.
[01:36:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Just yeah. Twist your body. And if you're doing if you're doing your right hand, you'll twist right or left. Okay. Okay? And then if if you're doing your left hand, you'll twist right. And if if, you're tight, that old boy says you will know it before immediately if it's possible. But yeah. Yeah. And trust me. He had me do it, and I'm like, oh, fuck no, dude. The hell. I just I freaking barely put my hand on that door and just I don't think I moved it, fuck, even a millimeter, and I was like, wow. That was a new pain I hadn't felt. And you'll feel it in your shoulder.
But he says do that couple times a day throughout the day in, over a couple months. He says, believe it or not, it'll ease up. I don't know if I believe him on it, but he says it'll it will. I mean, yeah, try that. Shit, Brian, in the truck, you could use, your seat.
[01:38:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, what I normally do is, like, whenever I'm stretching my back out or whatever. Right. I mean, that's I I normally will just when I'm sitting down, I will make sure my get my thigh about, try to get my thigh as as parallel to the ground as I can. Mhmm. And then I'll twist. You know, I'll twist 1 first to the left until I it go as far as I can, and then I'll twist to the right. And back before I got myself all nice and back, I could actually do it. And I would sit there and I would twist, and I'd get I'd jump the back, and I'd turn the other way around, jump the back. And then I would twist my and then I'd put the other, put the other leg in the same position, and I'd twist again. And, you know, I'd get I'd pretty much get the whole back popped and stuff. And then if I was going into bed, I'd I'd piss the wife off because I'd go and I'd stretch, and I would just raise my leg up. But because I was twisting myself around like I was, I'd get a good old low back pop going on before I go to bed. So Right. And, no, that's fine. But but, see, this isn't
[01:39:25] Rich Chelson:
to pop your back or nothing. This is just to, I guess I guess, work that nerve and and make it not as tight in your shoulder. Right. And it actually, over time, gives you more more flexibility Right. Is is is is the way I understand it. You know? All I know is right now yeah. No. There's no flexibility in me.
[01:39:52] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm not And I'm not really well, still not fully understanding how you do it because, I mean Well, okay. Okay. Okay. In your truck, stand up right now. Stand up. Alright. I'll I'll grab my microphone so we can still talk in, with quality here. Alright. So I'm standing, and I've got my right hand. I'm standing right next to, my my, one of the one of the cabinets there. So and I've got
[01:40:18] Rich Chelson:
okay. You're I could stand. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Do you have a lower cabinet?
[01:40:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, I've got a whole well, I've got a from I've got about a 5 and a half foot tall cabinet.
[01:40:35] Rich Chelson:
Okay. So from okay. Okay. As you're standing right there Yep. Put your right hand on that cabinet right below your waist and just Okay. So now, again, this is just me needing to know the specifics.
[01:40:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. So do am I needing to have it to where put my hand on the, right below my waist by be close enough to the cabinet to where basically my whole arm's touching, or do I need to be No. No. Just just your hand is touching the cabinet. Okay. So I need to step away far enough to where it's just my hand. Alright.
[01:41:10] Rich Chelson:
K. So we're doing that. Okay. Now now from from that point right there, K? Just twist left just a little bit. You should At the waist?
[01:41:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Okay. Nothing there. There's there's I'm not feeling anything. That's why I'm asking. That's why I was kinda wanting to check and see. I mean, when I try to put my hand flat, I mean, there's a there's a bit of tension, but that's also because my hand is Right there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Put your hand flat and and and and it tension. But again, it's not if when I turn left, I mean, that all that tension goes away. And when I turn right, I mean, yeah, I'm I'm turning the turning my arm, you know, basically see if, if I rotate it a 180 degrees, then my palm was out. So I'm try whenever I turn to the right, all of a sudden, I'm turning my my my arm beyond that 180 degrees.
[01:42:13] Rich Chelson:
Now That's The, the palm of your hand Yep. Should be flat against your cabinet.
[01:42:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So here's another little detail that because, again, my the way my the weird way my brain thinks. Alright? Do I turn my hand to where my, where the palm is facing frontwards first before it goes to the, to the outside? Or do I go turn my hand to the where it's going back and then out to the outside? No. Take your
[01:42:47] Rich Chelson:
hand, take your palm, put it on the big fat face of your cabinet.
[01:42:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. But I be but again, do I are you talking about because I you get different reactions. If I turn my hand counter clock or clockwise, I'm gonna have a different reaction than if I go counterclockwise.
[01:43:07] Rich Chelson:
No. Brian. Brian. Just just just stand there just stand there between your cabinets. K. Okay. Bring your right arm out. Put your palm against your cabinet.
[01:43:19] Bryan Goodwin:
But which direction do you want me to turn my palm? Because it makes 2 different different changes. So if I go My palm goes flat against the cabinet. Okay. Now I want you to do that. Take your hand and put your palm flat against the wall. Which direction did you just turn your hand? Or did you turn it clockwise or counterclockwise?
[01:43:40] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean? I I I didn't turn it anyway.
[01:43:44] Bryan Goodwin:
So you put the back of your hand against the wall?
[01:43:48] Rich Chelson:
No. Are are you facing forward like like the truck is facing?
[01:43:54] Bryan Goodwin:
I have got got the cabinet on the right hand side of my body right now.
[01:44:00] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:44:02] Bryan Goodwin:
So the back of my hand is facing the cabinet. Okay? So if I wanna put my back of my hand or if I wanna put my the palm of my hand on there, I have to turn it. Do I turn it clockwise or counterclockwise?
[01:44:20] Rich Chelson:
Brian, turn your video on. Let me see this because it's I'm I'm I'm getting confused.
[01:44:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Hold up. I've got too many fucking wires here. Goddamn.
[01:44:37] Rich Chelson:
Leave it to me. I know.
[01:44:39] Bryan Goodwin:
It's okay. Let's see. Toop toop. Bring this back up.
[01:44:43] Unknown:
Alright.
[01:44:44] Bryan Goodwin:
No deal. Let's go vertical and get my ear put back in my ear. There we go. Alright. Turn the camera off. Alright. Here we are. So we got this right here. Okay. So,
[01:44:56] Rich Chelson:
again Okay. Woah. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You are facing the bed. Yes. You are facing okay. Do a 180.
[01:45:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So put your handle put your arm away from
[01:45:13] Rich Chelson:
Now now do you have a cabinet on your right side or on your left? Well, you you have the one on the left side. But
[01:45:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But if you want the if you want the cabinet to be on the right hand side because No. No. North, south, east, or west, it doesn't matter. Right. No. No. What
[01:45:33] Rich Chelson:
what I'm saying is whether you're going through a door or anything but in a truck like this. Okay? In fact, actually, you could back up, back your whole body up, take about a half or a step back where your driver's seat is at. Right. And on the backside of that cabinet, put your right hand with your palm. Hang on a second. I'm trying to show you without my video on. With your palm right behind right between your driver's seat and your cabinet right there.
[01:46:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So okay. Now now I got what you said, because you're saying do this.
[01:46:17] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Put down. Put your arm down. This is what Okay. Okay. This is what the physical therapist showed me. Okay. Okay? And So And then and then twist left. K. No tension. No nothing?
[01:46:35] Unknown:
No.
[01:46:37] Bryan Goodwin:
That's why I was asking because the way you were saying it was take your hand and put it against the the the deal. And so And did you turn your hand clockwise? Or did you turn your hand counterclockwise?
[01:46:52] Rich Chelson:
Right. And see, it it wasn't it wasn't working on my head, and that's why that's why I was like but, no, you just it's just like you're walking through a door. You know, when you go to touch the sides of a doorway, which a lot of us do Right. Your palms come out like this. Right? Right. Just put them down here just just, below your weight your waist and, like, with your right one. See, I can't do it. I I do that. I, yeah, I don't I don't I don't even twist, but that much. And and, yeah, it's I'm screaming.
[01:47:32] Bryan Goodwin:
See, I can I can break my arm? The only place that I can't reach is right in the middle of my back. So Oh, yeah. No.
[01:47:42] Rich Chelson:
I haven't been able to do that for 15 or 20 years. I've been a So that's why that's why I have a back scratcher in the truck. So Right. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. But but, yeah, you you you yeah. He was saying you do that with with both hands. And, I mean, you obviously don't have to worry about it. Yeah. But, you know, people like me, yeah, we have to worry about it.
[01:48:09] Bryan Goodwin:
See, I think the Army is just a lot harder on you guys than the Navy is. So I'm kinda gathering that, dude. I mean, that's that's why whenever you're saying, like, you need to go you'll get your VA stuff. It's just like, well, why? I mean, right now, the worst that's happening is, yeah, I've got a sore my shoulder's sore, but that's because I sleep like this all the time. And so I've I've I've crammed my my shoulder up and and But but And that's more that's more Great Dane induced than anything else. The thing is, though, are you sure? I'm positive. I didn't have it until just 6 months ago.
[01:48:51] Rich Chelson:
I mean, you you are probably right. Okay. I'm not I'm not saying you're not, but at the same time, it it could be from an injury you sustained. I mean,
[01:49:04] Bryan Goodwin:
the way it sound The closest that, of any type of shoulder damage that I could have done thanks to the navy was because of something I was doing in the shower.
[01:49:12] Rich Chelson:
I mean,
[01:49:13] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't think they would And I don't think that would be considered cheerful.
[01:49:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Right? Damn. That's but that's yeah. Yeah. I probably should've gone into the navy.
[01:49:30] Bryan Goodwin:
So I'm And I mean, and the other I mean, I've got that, then I've got tennis elbow on my other, on the other. And again, that is again more, I I attribute it more towards the fact of of of thanks to Rain and Watson because they have both started trying to sleep right next to my head. Right. And a Great Dane and a sheep a doodle take up a lot of space. And so I honestly I seriously I sleep on about 6 inches of my bed. It's about that wide.
[01:50:04] Rich Chelson:
You know, I love animals. I love dogs. I love all kinds of dogs, and I know your dogs are lovable. I'd kick them the fuck off. It's like, no. This is my bed. And Rain would give you such a look
[01:50:18] Bryan Goodwin:
that you would go I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're No. But you had to go. Yeah. You would sit there. You would just, oh, I'm sorry. She she that she would cuss you out too. She'd be like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. That's That I can believe.
[01:50:35] Duuude-Ron :
That's when that's when you just escort her out of the room and shut the door.
[01:50:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, no. No. No. And I think actually, I think Rain has probably got a little bit of a doggy autism because this dog does not understand shut doors. You shut a door, she's going to make sure that door is open. She does not like doors to be shut. It is she has got OCD or something. I don't know what it is, but when it comes to when it comes to closed doors, if she can't pass through it on her own, she is going to throw a fit about that. And it will be paw that paw that paw that paw that paw that paw that paw that. And you're just like going, dude, knock it off. And until the door is open.
And her patience outlast my patience every time.
[01:51:34] Duuude-Ron :
So the dog whisper would not be able to whisper to you very easily?
[01:51:39] Bryan Goodwin:
No. He had to be able to whisper to her all well, he couldn't whisper to her very well because she's deaf also. So Wow. And I think that's probably the biggest problem that I have with her is if we were to have a dog because Watson easy. You say set, and he's like, alright. Sure. Uh-huh. And flops on his butt. But but Rain, you know, you have to you have to first get her attention. She's if she's excited, God help you because, you know, that's that there's there's £95 of of dog bouncing around you, isn't it? And and want your attention. So which is funny because everybody keeps going, and that's all she's at she is? It's like, yeah. Yeah. She's a little dane.
She's not a great dane. She's a she's a
[01:52:23] Duuude-Ron :
small dane. Great. She's not a great dane. She's a grand Dane or a Good Dane. She's a Good Dane. Yeah. Good Dane. Not a Great Dane. In the ass Dane. Good Dane. Sometimes.
[01:52:36] Bryan Goodwin:
But by damn, I'm glad winter's coming because now I can actually sleep under the blankets with her. So
[01:52:42] Rich Chelson:
man. Yeah. See, that's
[01:52:44] Bryan Goodwin:
yeah. I don't Oh. That dog. No. Mister mister, I'm cold when it gets below 85 degrees. Nuh-uh. No. No. No. No. No. No. You would love to have this dog under the covers with you because one, she lays down. She goes from the, from the head of the bed going. So first, she's she lays in bed backwards. Alright? Okay. Her head is pointed towards the foot of the bed, and her butt's pointed towards the head of the bed. Yes, sir. So you gotta cut her butt is just the right size to cuddle with. And you just kinda lay over and you just, you cuddle up with her butt. I haven't, if, if she farts, thankfully I'm already unconscious, so I don't have anything.
So I just sleep through it, But it's just great. You just lay there and you just, oh, you you know, in the dead with those, that, that really hard cold snap that we had last year. That was that was perfect. I mean, just go to bed, she would crawl underneath the covers, and you would I just cut her curl up with that, with her butt. And, hey, man, I slept like a flipping baby. Damn. Had my one foot hanging out hanging out from underneath the covers because, well, you know, it it that's just kosher, and I I I'm not gonna suffocate to death.
[01:54:07] Unknown:
So
[01:54:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I don't I don't know about that. I don't know about that. But Yeah. It's I mean, it'd been chilly, but I I ain't well, no. It's it's yeah. It's yeah. It's been it's been let's well, I I was I was actually thinking about it. No one informed me it was gonna be this cold this early, so I was not prepared for it.
[01:54:43] Duuude-Ron :
Well, next year, you'll know. Here comes October. You know what? You tomorrow, you better get fucking prepared.
[01:54:50] Rich Chelson:
Because it's I because I'm serious. It's it's like this is the first October that I've ever seen it this cold in last, what, 15 years.
[01:55:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, and that's this is just one of those, and this actually isn't cold. This is just a nice cool down. This is this is that, what it, how is it in the in the seasons of of the south? You have summer, late summer, Indian summer, almost looking like it's fall, return of summer, Summer's still here. 3 days of fall, one day of winter, 2 days of spring, and your summer again.
[01:55:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, I can believe that. Everybody. Hey, you see, that's like all, well, the rest of this week into next week. The lows are, well, the lows are in the mid fifties in the high forties to mid fifties all week long. And the highs are
[01:55:58] Duuude-Ron :
low What was it in Missouri in October?
[01:56:02] Rich Chelson:
95.
[01:56:05] Bryan Goodwin:
And at night, it's getting down to 24, 25. Not in October. No. Yeah. October. There was a couple times. It wouldn't be all all wouldn't be all month long cold. This is just one of those nicely. Hey. Congratulations. The the global warming thing is nowhere near as bad as everybody wants to think type of thing. So No. Last year,
[01:56:27] Rich Chelson:
last, yeah, last year, October. No. It was still it was still 85, 90 degrees during the day. Lows were in the sixties. We didn't see cold temperatures until I think it was, like, right after Thanksgiving was, when it started getting down in the twenties.
[01:56:56] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So you said so you said that you weren't prepared. Do you have a jacket do you have a jacket in your closet?
[01:57:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. I got a You're prepared. I got a jacket, and I got a hoodie. Right. Then you're prepared. But, dude, what I was saying is I was not prepared to break them out this early. I was thinking Well you know, maybe later on in November. You know? But not before I win.
[01:57:26] Duuude-Ron :
In 3 days, just be prepared to put them right back into the closet.
[01:57:34] Rich Chelson:
Swear. I swear. Okay.
[01:57:38] Bryan Goodwin:
According to well, I went ahead and looked up on the, on the, over at weather spark.com, and they got all of that information for, like, Oklahoma. Okay. And, the hourly temperatures in Oklahoma in Oklahoma City were typically it would start out, at the beginning of, of of October. It was, cool to comfortable, which was, at night, it was cool to comfortable, which was anywhere from about, 55 degrees, 75 degrees. And then it would dries all the way up to hot, which is typically about, about 85 to 95 degrees. And we had instances of that. There was a couple of oh, what the fuck was this? What the hell? Goddamn it.
[01:58:34] Rich Chelson:
There.
[01:58:37] Duuude-Ron :
Hold up.
[01:58:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So while you're trying to look that up Well, it other time, I was like had a fucking pop up bullshit come on going, hey. You're you're a you're a Verizon customer. You probably wanna know about this. And it's like, no. I don't care the fucking no shit about this. Yeah. You're one of a 100 I don't know. It's it's scam bullshit.
[01:59:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Fuck off. Alright.
[01:59:03] Bryan Goodwin:
So but anyhow, there was there was several days in there where it got down to cold, which was, around the, the about 15th to, 15th to 20th of, of October. We got down to very cold, which is about 32 to 45. And then right around, October 29th, 30th or so, we actually got into freezing temperatures. So it was between 15 and 32 degrees. So, I mean and that's Oklahoma City, where we had those. So
[01:59:40] Rich Chelson:
I'm looking at Kirksville, Missouri, which is the closest one to me, okay, for this day, October 17, 2023. Now it did say that morning of October 17th, it was 35 degrees. And then it warmed up to, like, 68, 69, and the low that night was 47. So wherever I was at, and I had to be up there in Missouri, I probably didn't come out the freaking house Nope. Until, yeah. It's about noon.
[02:00:26] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:00:28] Bryan Goodwin:
K. And, October for, for pass down in sleepy little town of Pascagoula. Yeah. You had, 80 degree temperatures all month long until the last day, and then it got down to it got a high of 60. But you had a minimum temperature come Everybody in the fucking advertisements. You had, looks like October 18th, you actually dropped all the way down to 0.
[02:01:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think that's a lie.
[02:01:06] Bryan Goodwin:
That's No. No. You have freezing temperatures down there. I mean, there's times where even Florida will catch 32 degrees or lower. 32 degrees, but 0 degrees? No. What? Well, look at, look at Houston during the great freeze of 2021. They had minus. Oh, yeah. It does happen.
[02:01:32] Rich Chelson:
No. I I No. No. I'm not saying it don't happen, but, yeah, that's, you know, that's okay. My ass no. My ass ain't going outside.
[02:01:42] Duuude-Ron :
She's not. And and we know that you don't like we know that you don't like the cold, but you're used to the cold.
[02:01:52] Bryan Goodwin:
No. He's not used to the cold. No. Especially because he he was complaining when it got down to 55 degrees just a couple days ago. Yeah. No. I'm talking about when he was up in Missouri. When he's up in He wasn't used to the cold even then. He was stuck in his house.
[02:02:06] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Yeah. Just think of it like this. When it gets to be 32 degrees, the people in Pascagoul or wherever the hell you live at will lose their fucking minds.
[02:02:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't doubt it.
[02:02:26] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I don't like the cold. I grew up in the cold in Nebraska. I'm not gonna hang around where there's white air any place, hopefully. But, you know, no. I don't like the cold. Yeah. Can I live through the cold? Yeah. I can live through it. You know, it is what it is. But these motherfucking people down here, when it gets to fucking be freezing, lose their fucking minds.
[02:02:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. It is incredible. Because they have the attention span of a gnat. That's I mean If
[02:03:08] Duuude-Ron :
if we're lucky.
[02:03:09] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, I mean and that can't keep focus very long. I mean, shit, a goldfish remembers more shit than most of people do nowadays.
[02:03:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. They could be a dragonfly, and you see how they fly. They're just all over the damn place.
[02:03:28] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:03:30] Duuude-Ron :
Talk about attention span. Gee. I wanna fly straight. No. Left. No. Right. No. Left. No. Right. Up. Down. No. Backwards. What the fuck am I doing? And then rinse and repeat.
[02:03:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, and and I'm bummed. I didn't get no pecans off my pea can tree. Aw. Yeah. I, I I believe say, I was told pecan picking season was November 1st. Well, I think I was misinformed because I went out the other day to look at my pecan tree because I was expecting them to start to be falling here soon. Right? I didn't see a damn one on, on, on the tree and I only found a couple holes on the ground.
[02:04:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Just to let you know, I don't know if you realize it or not, but pecans have cycles. One season you will get crap for pecans. The next one you're gonna think you're drowning in freaking pecans. And then the next one, there's not gonna be anything. Okay. Well, either way,
[02:04:46] Rich Chelson:
earlier this summer, I had pecans on my tree.
[02:04:50] Bryan Goodwin:
You may have also had squirrels. Well, I've got an accident. Sneaking or people sneaking into your backyard at night and running off like guns. Well, you know, that That and those are some sneaky old ladies that'll do that too.
[02:05:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, because because see, that's the thing. I didn't find many holes or any, you know, many shells or whatnot. And, then also I looked it up and, pecan picking season for down here is from August to November. So either well, I I would have to say between the squirrels and the little old ladies or whoever, that's probably where my PKs went. Good chance. Damn ladies. And You you're gonna have to go get and enjoy your pecans over at the local Baptist church during their during, potluck supper
[02:05:50] Bryan Goodwin:
season.
[02:05:51] Rich Chelson:
Bad thing is is they're probably gonna sell me back my pecans.
[02:05:55] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Don't. You go to a potluck. You go there in the potluck. That's all of it's free. Yeah. And they already go to the potluck. Go to down home southern, potluck dinner?
[02:06:07] Rich Chelson:
I wanted to make a pecan pie out of my pecans. That'll happen next year.
[02:06:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what? They probably they probably already beat you to the punch. You just like you like Brian said, you just have to go to a potluck and and let them have your pecan pie already made.
[02:06:26] Bryan Goodwin:
That you're probably gonna find out you don't have you've got, got native pecans instead of paper shell.
[02:06:33] Rich Chelson:
No. I've got I think I've got paper shell because I've got because, I saw I saw some of the, saw some of the,
[02:06:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Shells?
[02:06:49] Rich Chelson:
The shells off, you know, without the husk. Uh-huh. The outer shell. And, yeah, it looks like the paper shells is what it looks like. So yeah. I don't know, though. Either way, next year, put signs up. Leave my pecans alone or or just or just wind up, staying up through the night.
[02:07:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Sitting there with a passenger. You don't want to you don't wanna kill them, so you're just sitting up there with the with the your little red rider BB gun. Just No. No. No. See see see this is what I do.
[02:07:27] Rich Chelson:
I will sit under my carport with my wagon, and I'll wait. I'll let them pick them all up. And then as they're as they're walking back out to their car, I'm gonna charge them I'm I'm I'm gonna charge them a tow of every pig hand they picked up from my yard and and and the yard next door that you're told to leave. Otherwise, we don't have a problem. That's gonna work once and and no one's gonna come back again.
[02:08:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, if you let them keep 25% of it, they'll probably go ahead and go pick them up just so they can get some.
[02:08:21] Rich Chelson:
You know, that is an idea. That way you don't have to do all the hard work. Oh, wait. Wait. Isn't that called the bad, crony capitalism?
[02:08:34] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. Crony capitalism's when the government goes, you make pecan. You're going to be the one who all controls all the, you're the one that's gonna help us do, set up the the, the regulations on pecan picking. And so, yeah, when the government when the government and a, and a company join forces, that's crony capitalism. Regular capitalism, or known as a laissez faire capitalism, hands off capitalism is where you just let the capitalistic system work itself to, work itself out. There's not gonna be there's going to be, monopolies through it. And monopolies are good because monopolies are from whoever does it the best.
But they gonna have to keep the prices low because if they don't, then someone else is gonna come under and, and undercut them.
[02:09:37] Rich Chelson:
Right. Which that's, that's way life's been. That's how it normally runs.
[02:09:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. And so if you're, if they try to cut corners and they start making things a little cheaper and a little brattier and a little, a little less quality, then someone's going to also come through and they're gonna, they're gonna edge them out. The only that's why, that's why, telephones didn't advance in their, in, in, in technology for the first, like 50 so years. However, 30, 40 years or however long it was from the time Alexander Graham Bell made his telephone. That's why you ended up you didn't buy your telephone when you first it was like the cable box. Yeah. It was random. You you bought that hard rubber telephone and or you didn't even buy it. You rented it. Yeah.
And it wasn't until the, the dissolution of, of Ma Bell that all of a sudden people were like, oh, Hey, we can, we can make our own telephones now. And all of a sudden you had Snoopy phones. You had you had, Mickey Mouse phones. You had the clear phones. It's had with all the all the the cool things that you had the French phone that was that long, big old loop to loop thing. He had all these other phones. Yeah. The What? The phone that was, that where the hang up was, the inside of the, of the of the of the of the dial. Or I don't know if you remember that. It looked like it almost looked like a freaking, hair. It was normal shaped, handle, but at the bottom, it was really big and wide around.
And you picked it up and as you turned it over, the dial was on there. So you'd have to, but inside the middle of it was the receiver or was the, was the hangup receiver. So when you set it down, it would push that button and it would hang the phone up. So you got really you actually got to when you slammed the phone down, there was a really satisfying
[02:11:52] Duuude-Ron :
phone. Right. So Or or the lips phone?
[02:11:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. The famous lips phone. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Was that a great example of that? Was that modeled, after Mick Jagger's lips? No, because it was just the lips and it didn't have the tongue. Yeah, no, I, it just, yeah, that would, that would, that would've been awesome though. If they had that with the tongue hanging out and you could actually, that would be the receiver. So you're like, click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click.
[02:12:27] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know, I I you know, honestly, I think and and, I mean, I could be way off, but I don't think I'm too far off. The reason why phones didn't advance like they did is because, it was con well, it was it was one controlled by a monopoly.
[02:12:44] Bryan Goodwin:
And It was controlled by a government induced monopoly. It was that was the true
[02:12:52] Rich Chelson:
now. Because if if Yeah. No. It's the remember
[02:12:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Graham Bell was like I remember I'm the one that strung up all the yeah. But he he was the one who made the the, some the the case of I'm the one that strung up all the wire. I get, I get to control that. And so, and as a means to, so they didn't he, he again, crony capitalism, he's the one that said, I'll make up the regulations for this. And they basically made the regulations so that nobody else could actually start it up, start up a phone company. And he had it all. Right. And so, yeah, that's crony capitalism. That's when monopolies go bad is when it's government controlled monopolies. That's why you go into Dallas and you've only got Spectrum as a as a cables, as a cable provider.
[02:13:44] Rich Chelson:
What?
[02:13:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, I don't know if it's Spectrum, but you've got you've got just you've got basically only have one cable provider for, like, the Dallas area.
[02:13:55] Rich Chelson:
Now you've got satellite. Those are your other choices. You've got satellite. You got Dish. Yeah. No. No. No. The reason I'm saying is is most of your large cities like that, they've got No. 5, 10 other different companies.
[02:14:10] Bryan Goodwin:
No. They don't. Because,
[02:14:13] Rich Chelson:
you know, I mean, you know, I mean, you know, Dallas, I don't know. But but, you know, I'm saying, like like, up in the morning,
[02:14:20] Bryan Goodwin:
you know, all those all those phone lines and, you know No. No. No. Yeah. You're you're talking phone lines. That's completely different than the coax, the cables. The phone the the fiber that you're putting in, those are all different internet service providers.
[02:14:39] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But okay. And, in a Des Moines, you've got Cox, you've got, MediaCom and, and
[02:14:49] Bryan Goodwin:
And I bet you Cox only covers a certain portion of Des Moines. No.
[02:14:55] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. You know, you, you see, you, you see what's funny though, is all those lines, all those lines, except for the fiber, the new fiber stuff going in, all those old lines have been bought and sold so many times over the years. They really don't know who owns them. No. They don't. And but,
[02:15:18] Bryan Goodwin:
it's like, it's well, I mean, like in, in Oklahoma, they, the the phone companies are actually set up as little kingdoms these days. So you have pioneer. You have Dobson. Windstream went through and bought up a whole bunch of them. So you got the in in Western Oklahoma, you got a lot of Windstream, as actual landline phone company. They're the they're the the doing the ones who are doing DSL. And, and pioneers realizes like, oh, wait a minute. You know, DSL, that's okay. They they did DSL for a while. They did cellular too for for a good while too. And they after, after, COVID, I guess they kinda were like, you know what? It's time to go into into fiber, and they've basically have been doing going into fiber, Dobson cellular, or what used to be Dobson cellular is now Dobson fiber. And so they're doing fiber a lot. So Right. Yeah. And and little canoe sitting there going, well, we got DSL. We could do a 100, we could do a 100 megs down and 25 megs up. So we're all day.
[02:16:33] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. But but you see, now now let me ask you this. I mean, this is a possibility not saying this is what happened. But do you think Windstream came in and bought those companies but left them as their instead of putting a Windstream name on them so as not having a monopoly because now, you know, it's illegal to have a monopoly.
[02:16:59] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. There was because, that's actually I I actually went to the whenever I was working for ITITL, which was a little Internet service, tech company in Elk City, I actually went to, the CEO of Pioneer's house. Beautiful house. Nice house. Awesome house. And, and, got, set some stuff up for, for him there at their house. And so No. I mean, I And it's like I said, it's just it was it just broke up into little into little kingdoms. And so there was there were so you had well, it's kinda like whenever I was growing up, whoever was doing our our phone service for a long while, I could call in my in my hometown, 2,000 people, I could call them.
And we were even in the eighties, we were still doing 5 digit phone numb phone calls. You could just dial 85564. Right. Eventually, it became, but the only other town you could call in that area was Dumas. And that was it. You could call someone in your in in Sunray. You call someone in Dumas. Anything else that was long distance per minute? And I remember, and that, that was a sorry thing because all my girlfriends were out of town. Right. And not even in doom is out of town. They were in Borger and Amarillo.
[02:18:45] Rich Chelson:
So, and Perryton, Perryton, can't forget Perryton. You had to have 3 jobs, didn't you? Johnathan: no, but,
[02:18:54] Bryan Goodwin:
but at the same time, I mean, I did work, but, that was to pay the, pay the phone bill pretty much. Yeah. And so that I could actually drive I could drive my little, my little, little 72 Ford Maverick over there. So, and I love that little car. That was my favorite. That's probably about still my favorite little car. Damn thing squealed on me every damn time if I was running late. Because if I, if I was running late and I got over 55 miles an hour on because this is back when the speed limit or in in Texas was still 55 miles an hour. It wasn't gonna jump up till, like, I think 94. I think it's when it jumped. It climbed up to 70. Yeah. Or even though it should climb up to 65 and and 65 during the day, 55 at night. Yep.
[02:19:43] Rich Chelson:
I remember them days, man. I I remember them days. I mean I might still couldn't drive freaking 50
[02:19:50] Bryan Goodwin:
over 55 for another, like, 5, 6 years. Yeah. Well well yeah. No.
[02:19:56] Rich Chelson:
Not not legally we couldn't. Not legally. Yeah. We did. I mean, yeah, we yeah. We we'd fly through the hell out of Texas, but, yeah, Texas didn't like it too much. No.
[02:20:09] Bryan Goodwin:
They But, anyhow, if I drove too fast in that in that little maverick, though, it would tattle on me because moment I get home, I think, you know, I got it. I got it. I'd creep into the turn my headlights off and come coasting up into it's put it into neutral and coast up into the driveway into my spot, get myself stopped, turn the car off, and it
[02:20:30] Unknown:
Oh, damn. Goddamn it.
[02:20:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Never fails. Never failed. And of course, I also learned a real cool trick on those old automatics on how you could actually make the car backfire. Now what good on the car, but at the same time, it was it was a lot of fun if you wanted to scare the crap out of people. So you'd go off and you'd shift it down into 1, and you'd get the RPMs up pretty high and and go for a little ways, and then throw it up into neutral and turn the car off, count to 5, and then turn it back on. Mm-mm. Don't even have to turn it on. You just turn the ignition, to on. And every time you would get blam blam blam.
[02:21:27] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was you see this you see that's why that's why I love the old cars. There was so Oh, yeah. There was so much you could do, and you couldn't hurt them.
[02:21:38] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. I mean, they're rolling tanks. That's Detroit d, Detroit
[02:21:43] Rich Chelson:
steel all the way. That oh, man. I tell you. Rolling iron. Yeah. Like that Lincoln mark 5 I saw.
[02:21:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. All 7 miles out. Dang.
[02:21:52] Rich Chelson:
That was I I mean, that that thing screamed fucking Detroit. I mean, it, you know, it it it seriously took me a good minute to get past him because he was just that freaking long. I'm just like, oh, hell yeah. You know, I I freaking hadn't seen a car like that in
[02:22:13] Bryan Goodwin:
years. Yeah. My friend had a, had a, Pontiac Catalina. Oh, man. And the socks were wore out on it. Oh, that's that booty. Oh, hell. Yeah. It was awesome because and it was we called it the land yacht because there was a there's a dip on one end of of the of the drag. Uh-huh. And he would hit that thing doing 30, and it would just sit there and rock up and down the whole way.
[02:22:43] Rich Chelson:
And and and for and for and for those of you that do not know what we mean by hooty or this, like like Brian just explained, when you'd hit a bump and it was like he was riding on the ocean in the waves He's going over ways. That's for miles. For miles. And and you and you didn't even have a touch of gas because the moo the, momentum of the car kept you going. Yeah. It was amazing. It was a beautiful
[02:23:12] Bryan Goodwin:
oh, I love John's car. So It was great. It was great. I bet my my my friend Butch, he had a 50 something Cadillac, and we would put 20 kids in that damn car.
[02:23:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh,
[02:23:24] Bryan Goodwin:
dude. There was And have room. I mean, we Yeah. We had room for for other people if they wanted to. You know? We'd have the whole class of 92 in there and just
[02:23:33] Rich Chelson:
and have a good old time. You know? Right. Oh, yeah. Those you say that you say that's that's just when life was fun, man. Oh, yeah. Fine.
[02:23:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Even More kids these days, they're stuck in their it's stuck in their house. They don't even know what they're missing.
[02:23:48] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Or or well, you you know, they they they they freaking get these brand new cars or if they get a driver's license. A lot of them don't Don't even bother anymore. No.
[02:24:01] Bryan Goodwin:
It's easier just to get an Uber.
[02:24:03] Rich Chelson:
There yeah. This I in fact, I know a guy that that goes to work in an Uber, and he's a superintendent of a construction site.
[02:24:16] Bryan Goodwin:
He'd Well, he probably also has the money. He just, you know, it's cheaper just to drive.
[02:24:21] Rich Chelson:
He doesn't have a He does not have a driver's license. We'll not get one. See, I don't understand that. I I don't either. I don't either. No. It's I I mean and and and then and then when he gets yelled at for either being late or or whatnot like this, he's like, well, well, my Uber didn't do right. And, you know, I'm sorry, but if you're a superintendent on a construction site, those words do not sit well with any freaking buddy. They're gonna call you a dumbass and they don't care what you say. Right. You've lost all respect. And that's the thing. He could get a work truck.
Yeah. He a company paid for work truck with company paid for gas. There you go. Yeah. He refuses to get a driver's license because, well, he's a liberal.
[02:25:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Now, I mean I am not gonna be responsible for the destruction of the of the planet, so I'm gonna put that Well, I I don't think I don't think he's that bad, but,
[02:25:39] Rich Chelson:
there I remember I remember, say this guy, this was fuck. 5, 6 years ago? 7? 7 years ago, something like that. Anyway, he came over. This this is when I was living in Arkansas. He came over, brought some whiskey. He says, Richard. I said, what? He says, you drink this? I said, well, fuck yeah. I will. He's like, dude. We're gonna talk. I said, alright. What we gonna talk about? He said, politics. I said, porting land, buddy. By the time I got done with him and that bottle, it was late. It was really late. And and I had thoroughly schooled him on on on his thought processes. I mean, I blew everything he brought up. I blew it out the water and and and and showed him.
I proved it to him, backed it up. Okay? Right. Heather seems to prove it. I didn't I didn't just, you know, whatever. I I mean, I proved it to him. That's the last time. I mean, when when I see him now, he's cordial, but that's as far as it goes. He will not he will not in fact in fact, shortly after we had that, conversation, his mother was up and he decided to bring some now now he bring brought this stuff up. I didn't start none of this. I was trying to stay out of it and and be good, but he brought this up. And it was something that that had to be going on, you know, with the government and all like this.
And and I sat and listened to his argument and all about it. He got done, and I turned around, and I just schooled him again right in front of his mama.
[02:27:45] Bryan Goodwin:
And
[02:27:47] Rich Chelson:
mama couldn't even protect him. Now the thing is, mom looked at him and said, Jonathan, he's right. That ended all conversations between me and him. And I you see, that's I didn't do it to embarrass him, you know, have him embarrassed, you know, in front of his mom. I I was just trying to educate the young man. Right. I I was just I was just I was just trying to show him that, dude, your way of saying wrong thinking. Is is is not right. You know? You were thinking like a liberal. And I'm like, this is this is not working. And I showed him where, what, when, where, everything, and he couldn't take it.
And so yeah. So I mean, I mean, man, they you know, I mean, I see him. I'll say, hey. How are you doing, John? How's the job going? And that's about it. You know? We don't, yeah, we don't talk no more. And then, by god, he thought he thought, I'm a buy the whiskey. I I I'm gonna talk with him. I'm a get at least 1 or 2 points. And his brother, my Brian, told him, dude, don't don't go there. Go there, dude. He's like, no, dude. Don't. And then when he brought the whiskey over, Brian's like, fuck, Richard.
[02:29:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-uh, dude. Yeah. Be easy on him. Be easy on him, though. It's game on, dude. It's game on, bro. It's like, fuck.
[02:29:22] Rich Chelson:
And so, yeah, it just but, you know and that's, you know, that's the thing. You know? I don't know everything. I ain't gonna know everything. But still, as a matter of fact, don't don't come up trying to bring some shit that isn't is is not real. You know? Don't don't try and say, well well, this is the way this went when that's not how it went. Right. You know, bring facts. Bring the facts. If you bring the facts and show me I'm wrong, I'll be the first one to fucking admit I'm wrong. You know? Right. I have a hard time believing that, but it's true. I will I will believe it, and I will amend my thought process.
But if you come at me with, conjecture and, you know, what what everyone else around you thinks and not and no facts, I'm gonna destroy you.
[02:30:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. That was kind of the, I've I had something similar. I had a, one of my, kids, they have a friend, and their their friend is a I said, what is it? Neighbor he's, he works in neighborhood planning for, for a small for the town they live in. K? Okay. So you see what direction that route goes. When it's neighborhood planning, instead of just letting neighborhoods go as they are, you know, they they gotta have you gotta have planning. So, so, essentially, he is a a neighborhood, a community organizer. It'd be another way to look at him. So He's a young Obama.
[02:31:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It well, sorry. Did I say that out loud?
[02:31:12] Bryan Goodwin:
And, but it's but it's funny because at first, I I saw him. He he kept popping up on the on the people you may know. And I I knew who he was, but just because just from, the fact that he showed up at my at my daughter's, baby shower and stuff. Him and his girlfriend had shown up there, and I was like, oh, okay. So got to know him, got to meet him, talk to him, blah blah blah. Didn't really anything nothing beyond, hey. How are you doing? Yada yada yada, weather, plants, and all that type of stuff. And so face I saw him on Facebook several times. Like, no. I'm don't wanna be the weird guy that falls in with the, with the kids. And then I finally was like, you know what? Screw it. Let's let's follow him. I and see what he's, what he's like and stuff like that. Yeah.
Rheem and liberal, screaming liberal. And, and so
[02:32:07] Rich Chelson:
Well, well, when you said neighborhood planner,
[02:32:10] Bryan Goodwin:
that that just screamed liberal to me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It does. But it it did I didn't even realize what he did until after I we had friended each other on Facebook. So it was like, okay. Cool. And really, at first off, did not see much of anything from it. Until he made some comment about, about, you know, comprehensive, need comprehensive and smart, gun regulations. And I was like, oh, okay. Okay. Oh, I know I know what he is. So I'd poke back. I was like, oh, well. And so blah blah blah blah. I throw my own 2¢ in there, you know, like, making the comment of like, well, okay. If we're gonna regulate regulate a tool like guns, then we also need to regulate hammers.
We also need to re because hammers have been known to kill people. Mhmm. We need to regulate spoons because spoons have been shown to kill people. We're also gonna need to regulate cars because cars have killed people. We also are gonna need to regulate houses because houses have killed people. And, you know, just kinda gave them out a whole, you know, just just bunch of bunch of little arguments like that. And he he'd come back with his own little big comments. And didn't hear much from him anymore from that. And I was like, alright. Well, you know. And then all of a sudden, 2, it's been 2, 3, maybe 3 weeks ago.
Charlie Kirk was gonna be in Amarillo. Okay. And he was, this guy was wanting to debate Charlie Kirk. He was like, goddamn, I'm gonna show him what's what's for. And I was like, going, dude. Wrong, man. Oh, sorry. But your your professors at college patted you on the head one too many times and you bought that they said you a smart boy.
[02:33:57] Rich Chelson:
You are gonna get owned.
[02:34:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Well and I was so I was like, okay. I would I'd love to watch this. It's like and he was and so we started up in the whole debate about about, abortion and how horrible abortion, the the new abortion laws and how we're taking all the all the, rights away from women and yada yada yada yada. And I was like, well, I mean, when the when you well, he could take away the rights on the women because we're trampling all over the rights of the, of the innocent. He's like, we're not trampling anything over the innocent. They won't these women have should have the right to to their own, their own health care. And it's like, they do.
But the child that she's carrying is not getting any rights. And it's like, things that she's not carrying any she was he was using the whole it's a collection of cells, essentially. Because if you take the child out of the, out of the womb, it's going that child's gonna die. It's like, yeah. So is your liver. So is your brain. So is your heart. Right. You know? There's things that you could do and I've that's I know that was actually a really weak argument and that, I mean, he he punched back pretty good with that one. But at at the same time, that was I was just like, yeah. The child lives with that. It's gotta have a help from the mom for a while.
And, you know, once even after the baby's born, you've got 18 years, you have to take care of that kid. You know? It takes that long for the brain to actually start to start to fully work somewhere in that in that zone. So we did had a big argument on that, and he was raising money because it was gonna be a $1,000 to to be able to go and actually go and debate Charlie Kirk this at this fundraiser. And so he would he ran a GoFundMe, and he's got a $1,000 together. And, they're he was gonna go do it. And he made such a large stink on Facebook that the the, the the organization that was holding the the the Charlie Kirk event was, like, going, dude, we know who you are. No. We're not gonna let you into the organization, dude. No. We're not gonna have a professional shitster come in the, in here causing all sorts of problems, which was which was a a bummer on their side because, one, you just they just open the door up for, oh, they're being racist and blah blah blah because he's black. Right. Right. And so and they they wouldn't let him in in to see to do the debate and all that, and the guy was, like, oh, no. You're just we know who you are. We've seen you on Facebook. You've been you've you're you're we're not gonna have someone stand around and be a professional shitster. And it's and that was one of the things I was telling. I was like, dude. Well, if you were having a group of, a a group of black folks show up, would you elect someone who was a was a member of the KKK come into your organization and start and try to debate you on merits of race?
No. And no. And that's but he was like, he's like, well, yeah. Because I would I'm blah blah blah. And I was like, no, you wouldn't. Stop lying like that. You would not have that. You would not do that. And so we get it coming from that point on, anytime he threw something up, it was I would throw my throw my 2¢ in. There's a lot of global warming BS that we'd have a fight with, and we would have and him and his, his friends would all jump in, and they'd all try to do try to say stuff. And it I was having a good old time. And then finally, he threw up some little, some picture about, all men need to get behind feminism. And I was like, and I I threw in the I I was like, hold up. Hold up. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Okay. Now we got feminism in here. And that's my favorite thing because and I, threw in and it was like, LOL. That's it's funny that you bring up feminism because feminism isn't about the equality of equal access for all women. Like, you wanna say it is.
It is equal access for all ugly women. And he was like, and where do you get your bro, your dumb ideas? And so I was like, all right, well here, let me just do an initial Google search of ugly feminists. And through about 8 or 9 links up, a lot of them read it, which is very liberal leaning. I mean, you, if you're a, if you're a conservative and you mentioned anything in there, you're probably gonna lose some karma points and, and stuff. And so I threw all that up there and my daughter called back, a little bit later. She said, well, I guess I guess you pissed off Chris enough. It's like, why? It's like, well, he blocked you. It's like, uh-uh. And I went over and I looked for his name and sure enough, I couldn't find him. He I I pissed him off enough. He get he's like, your dad just, he just he just went off the deep end with that. He said feminism is for ugly chicks.
[02:38:58] Duuude-Ron :
And Lexie was like, well, yeah.
[02:39:02] Rich Chelson:
I mean, think about it. You know? I and
[02:39:05] Bryan Goodwin:
and Show me a good looking feminist.
[02:39:07] Rich Chelson:
And see and see, that's the thing. You know, this is this is why I have a hard time with with young people because they expect us, older guys and gals, to accept what they're saying. And and if we don't agree with them, we're the bad people. Yeah. And, no, I'm sorry, but life has been this way for centuries. Hey. What?
[02:39:43] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm I'm just jiving with something here.
[02:39:46] Rich Chelson:
Uh-oh.
[02:39:48] Bryan Goodwin:
I wonder because we've heard liberals. They're supposed to be they're tolerant is what they're always we've always been told. They're they're tolerant people. We tolerate all everyone. We want everybody to be tolerant, tolerated, yada yada yada. Right? That's yeah. That's Okay. But what's the other thing they're always bitching about? They're bitching about hate. Hate speech, hate hate groups, hate this, hate that. Right? But they're the worst. If their definition of those words are like in the eighties where bad was good, where we would use words for the opposite.
Yeah. Opposite day. Yeah. So what if, what if they're actually saying, you know, hate speech is actually, you know Well, I mean I mean speech of our to that is supposed to be tolerated or something. Maybe what if they're what if we've been fighting against a a mis information to use the, again, to use their word, a misinformation of what the definition of these words are supposed to be. What have they been going, man? We just wanna be tolerant. And they're actually saying tolerant as a means to going, man, we just hate every fucking button. And, hate speech is, you know, you're you're just being you're being a hater. You're tolerating too many people.
[02:41:09] Rich Chelson:
But but yet but yet we're but yet we're supposed to love everybody and be tolerant
[02:41:16] Bryan Goodwin:
of of other people's decisions, which which we are. We are. No. But that but that's just it. We're we're using tolerant for the word tolerant. We're not using tolerant in their word. They're wanting us to tolerate other people by hating them.
[02:41:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But see, you see that saying, we can't do that. And you see, this is what I don't get. They say they say that that that that we're supposed to accept who they wanna be, what they are, what they think. We don't give a fuck what you think. Just don't shove it down my damn throat. Exactly. Don't force us to think like you think because that's not gonna happen. Right. That's that's where we're clashing. We don't give a shit what you do or how you do it. Just don't make me have to sit there and watch it and sit there and listen to it if I don't want to. Right. Well, that's I mean, that that's one reason why 2025
[02:42:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Western culture hasn't had has only had, like, to go into video games. The 2 big video games that the western culture has had are the 2 that have reused to do anything with the whole woke agenda type of thing. That is, that is space marines 2, which just came out recently, and they've sold like a 100,000,000,000 copies within like a month. I mean, it's stupid, insane. And I wanna play this game, but I don't have the $70 for it. And, and then also there is, so what's the other one that came out? Actually, there's 2 or 3. No. No. There was the other 2 that I'm thinking of, those are actually, Asian made, games.
Helldivers 2 is the other western, western cultured, game, and they're both of them have refused to go. Yeah. You're we're not doing, you know, pride flag colors on anything. That is like y'all are all part part of a team. Y'all it it's all y'all against a bunch of freaking bugs. Alright? Kill the bugs. Don't worry about whether or not you've got your your pride flag cape on. You're out there killing bugs. And and that's what the the a lot of the, the the game journalists are always bitching about is that it's like you don't let people express their individuality, and their the personality on the games. It's like, well, first off, it's their game.
It's not the, it's not the, the, the people bitching didn't make the game. And second of all, they weren't gonna play the game to, to begin with. Right. So who cares? But the fact that Helldivers 2, Space Marines 2 are both sold some like, like a sold like a $100,000,000 worth of of of revenue in, like, no time flat. The only 2 other games that are really or not 2, but the the only other games that have really just kicked it out of the park is Stellar Blade, which is a Korean made game. And it's got a girl in there that is fucking hot looking chick for being an animated girls. And and she, you know, it of course, it was also modeled after an actual model.
And then you have instead of doing the same bullcrap like what star wars, outlaws did, the main character that the, that, Ma'am Solo, I can't think of what her name is. She just she's the scruffy the scruffy nerve herder type of person. She's supposed to be the scoundrel, and she is but but the actual actress who they based the face and all on doesn't look anything like the actress. Got a very square jaw and and a very blocky face and is very, very Manly? Got a manly features to it, but at the same time as a woman, androgynous. That's the word I'm looking for.
Got a very androgynous look. You can tell it's supposed to be a woman, but doesn't look anything like the original, the original, actress who the who the character is modeled after. Right. And they were and the and the, the the developers, which are, is, Assassin's creed, Ubisoft, has gone off. It's like, well, when you're applying all the different stuff to, to the facial features, sometimes you can't get the face to look exactly right. And everybody keeps going, look at stellar blade. Hello? And and, you know, appointment at this and going, look, you can you can do it. You can make a, girl look like a hot girl, Look attractive and guys don't guys kinda wanna play it. Yeah. Girls play the game too, but they at the same time, they would like to I'm sure they would like to look at a a decent looking woman as opposed to the dumpster fire of a of a, of a punching bag that you've got set up for, like, Star Wars Outlaws.
And then the other one that was, that became, that sold like hotcakes and is still doing good is, oh, what is it? Black Myth Wukong, which is one it's it's the the main character is a magic monkey man. And it's based on the, based on a Chinese novel, an old Chinese novel called, Journey to the West. And, so it's got all these mythical, monsters and stuff that you're fighting as you're as you're progressing. And, crazy game. Everybody loves it. It's a great, great game. It's, yeah, it's got very it's got a lot of, of, souls born, aspects to it where the monsters and all the the main bosses are all these great, big, huge, over the top battles.
But, but it's great because everybody likes playing. They did a great job. They didn't bow down to turning, turning the monkey king into a, to a girl monkey queen or anything like that. They it was a tune. Yeah. He is not going to he's not going to be running around with a with a banner that is, of a pride flag or anything. And that again, that's what a lot of the journalists throw a fit about is that's they're we can't have our pride stuff. Well, no shit. It's China. Alright? China doesn't go for the go for the,
[02:47:50] Rich Chelson:
the the nonsense that ours is. Either way, don't you have enough pride stuff?
[02:47:56] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You never have too much pride. They wanna make sure that it's you eat, breathe, and live pride. I'm surprised Fruit Loops hadn't put out pride colored Fruit Loops yet. You know, I'm actually kinda shocked.
[02:48:08] Rich Chelson:
Oh, do you know do you know PS 5 Pro is out?
[02:48:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And all $700 worth of it. And,
[02:48:16] Rich Chelson:
the only difference I see between my 5 and a PS 5 pro is an extra terabyte of storage.
[02:48:25] Bryan Goodwin:
You got an extra terabyte of storage and the, and the optical drive is sold separately for $80.
[02:48:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So it's like, yeah, I, yeah, I saw that. I saw that. And I'm just like,
[02:48:39] Bryan Goodwin:
yeah. There is Well, I and there you're supposed to have better fidelity with the images, and it's supposed to be just a little bit clearer, a little bit stronger, a little bit better, and more likely so because, I mean, it's been 5 years already.
[02:48:53] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. But but the thing is, though, is is most TVs can't handle it. That's the whole thing. The TVs that are out right now, the QNEDS, the QLEDS, all this shit, they can handle the PS 5. So and and and they don't have room to And and if you want a 120 Hertz refresh rate, you gotta go up into the $45,000 range. Your average consumer cannot afford the $45,000 TVs. Not yet.
[02:49:35] Bryan Goodwin:
But that's what they're do that's what they're getting ready to be able to sell this year for Black Friday. I'm sure. Everyone will get their 120 inch, 8 k television. So
[02:49:48] Rich Chelson:
yeah. But yeah. See and and see, that's the thing. You know? It just I don't I don't you know, I like my PS 5. I like the graphics I get. Oh, yeah. And and I know I know if I have shitty graphics, I have an older game. Yeah. And and I accept it. You know? If if if I get a newer game, then, yes, I expect to see better graphics, like, like a Detroit becomes human. The graphics on that game are are are awesome, I think. You know? I haven't I haven't played that game on my new TV yet. That was on my 50 inch I was playing, and I was happy with the graphics in. Right. You know?
So I don't know. I I I might I might have to see if I can get this, Stellar Blade and see if it's in the game store and play it. Oh, it is. It's it's a $70 game. So Well, I'm not buying it.
[02:50:49] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. It's it's it's just freshly out. So, no, they don't have it for for the, for the free download stuff yet.
[02:50:57] Rich Chelson:
No. No. I mean I mean, like, they'll put games in a game catalog that, that, you can stream and play.
[02:51:08] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? Yeah. No. No. That's not there yet. They're still trying to get the $70 out of it.
[02:51:13] Rich Chelson:
No. Hell no. Uh-uh.
[02:51:15] Unknown:
Uh-uh.
[02:51:17] Rich Chelson:
Not doing that one. As I'm sitting here thinking about buying a laser engraver. Exactly.
[02:51:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Go figure. Right? I'm still wait I'm waiting for I can't wait until Quake 3 Arena finally comes out for PS 5 because they've already gotten Quake and Quake 2 out. So all we got is Quake 3 and Quake 4.
[02:51:37] Rich Chelson:
And, hell, I've I haven't played them.
[02:51:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, Quake 2 is my favorite. And we can actually do multiplayer on that one. We can do co op mode on it. Yeah.
[02:51:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. See, I've been I've been actually playing,
[02:51:53] Bryan Goodwin:
well well, I'm still playing Breakpoint. Breakpoint. Yeah. I saw you playing that last this weekend.
[02:51:59] Rich Chelson:
But the thing is, somehow, I wound up and switched over to Operation Motherland. Don't know how. Yeah. That's yeah. It's it's not the story mode. It's it's another one. And you've got And and and breakpoint?
[02:52:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. And breakpoint. Okay. So this must be a DLC then. Okay.
[02:52:20] Rich Chelson:
I guess. But, I wound up somehow got over there. And, like like, the first area you're in, you can fly helicopters. But I'm gonna tell you, in in other areas, you can't until you basically, take out the, drone swarms. I'm gonna tell you, do not try and fly into one of them other areas if they're not done because not only do you get the flying drones that that shoot your helicopter down, but you got the ground drones, and they don't stop shooting until you're dead. And I mean, dead. So, you know, if you drive in, walk in, whatever, you're fine. Don't fly.
And then you gotta do, like, 2 missions, destabilize, and and and kill the main drone area, and then you can fly your helicopter in. Just saying. So, yeah, it's it's it's actually, it's actually a little more involved. It's Right. It's actually kinda cool, but, yeah, I don't I mean, I flipped it on one day, and next thing you know, it said operation motherland. The hell? Alright. I'll play it. I don't care. But
[02:53:45] Bryan Goodwin:
so Well, I finished up Far Cry 4, and after that, after that one, I was like, I still got, like, 5,
[02:53:52] Rich Chelson:
5 and 6, and, new dawn and couple of the others. And I'm like going, yeah. We're gonna hold off on that one. I just,
[02:54:00] Bryan Goodwin:
they got the new dead space available for, for the, for the free download that you actually get to download and keep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so
[02:54:11] Rich Chelson:
I
[02:54:12] Bryan Goodwin:
see, I think I downloaded that one. I I haven't played it yet. That one's that one's I've always heard it's fun, but at the same time, that's just that's I have that's one that's supposed to is is just one of those really good, just scary survival horror type of, type of games. So Well, that's probably not gonna be a fun game for me because I Oh, yeah. Well, you'll love it. I don't like it. Finish off cyberpunk, though, man. Come on.
[02:54:39] Rich Chelson:
You know, I'm stuck in a thing, and I can't get out of it so I can regroup.
[02:54:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Where you at?
[02:54:47] Rich Chelson:
I don't know. But all I know is when I start the game and I'm I'm in the middle of this this, like, mall area, I've got a dude right here with his back to me. I gotta get past him. Another guy over here, I gotta get past him, and then I gotta get worked around to get, a car, or a minivan. But I've got people all around me, and if they spot me, I don't care how good I can shoot. I can't kill them all. I've tried.
[02:55:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you can always, you can always back up a couple of saves and and avoid that one till you're, at a higher at a higher level.
[02:55:34] Rich Chelson:
That's what I'm gonna have to do then because because yeah. Because because I try to, like, hit the center button to go to the map and then go to another area so I could just leave that one alone Right. You know, and get get better, but it won't let me. It sticks me right there. So I guess I'm gonna have to, at the start,
[02:55:58] Bryan Goodwin:
go to load a game and load 1 of them. Load a game, and then whenever you get off to whenever you're at at that place, then yeah. Go check go hit another, another, like, blue, blue paper area or blue gig or do one of the yellow, one of the yellow, missions that's not filled in. Right. Because you have so, like, some of those are are quite easy. So
[02:56:28] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I need I need to build my character up more is what I need to do. Yeah. I'm I'm at a 52 right now on mine. Oh, I don't I don't even know where I'm at, but I know I I know I'm not there. So
[02:56:42] Bryan Goodwin:
But But I can also help you. Yeah. We'll do may do that this weekend. May get get you on get you doing some streaming so I could see where you're at. And then at least send you over to get go get guts, which is a shotgun that is amazing. It's probably the best damn shotgun. Well, it's not a prop maybe. It is the best shotgun you can get. And,
[02:57:03] Rich Chelson:
oh, yeah.
[02:57:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. And do you do you have, do you have Netflix?
[02:57:08] Rich Chelson:
No.
[02:57:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Never mind. Why? Well, because I was gonna say if you had Netflix, you would definitely wanna watch, the, watch the show, Cyberpunk Edge Runners. It's it's a cartoon that they, that cyberpunk did. And one of the girls in there, one of the characters, her name is Rebecca, and that's her gun, is is Guts, which is an iconic shotgun. And just it's and and it's one of those where you shoot, you actually your character, when you shoot it, you actually back up a little bit. Oh, damn. It's got so much kick. And you can actually jump off of buildings, and if you shoot at the right time, it'll actually stop you from be hitting the ground. And so you can That'd be cool. It's awesome. It's fun. It's great. But it does a great job. You come across some of the some of the skull, the extra tough, bad guy that you just clack clack clack clack clack. He runs all 6 shells into it, and he they fall over in 3 pieces. So
[02:58:13] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because yeah. That's yeah. And and and in that game, a shotgun actually would be really good.
[02:58:20] Bryan Goodwin:
So Yep. But Yeah. I've got I used the shotgun. I've got the iconic, shotgun. I used the, guts. I've got, I actually have just up changed over from using Overwatch to a different, to a different sniper rifle. And then I used Jackie's, pistols as for, for the 3rd weapon. So Okay.
[02:58:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm I've got I've got 2 rifles. I know that, but and and they are good for what they are, but they're not that good on some of the harder people. Right. I need some help. But
[02:59:00] Bryan Goodwin:
I wish we could do co op on there. That would be a lot of fun. Jump on there and one person be Jackie Wells and the other one be Vee and just That'd be cool. That would be a shit ton of fun. Maybe that's what they do with cyberpunk, Orion. So Well, send them an email. If they if they don't screw it up, Sweet Baby Inc has has got their fingers in it. So
[02:59:21] Rich Chelson:
No. But oh, dude, we probably ought to, What time is it? It's 10 o'clock. Holy smokes. It's 10 o'clock.
[02:59:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's just straight up 10 o'clock. Yeah. We didn't even talk about the, talk about, sales pitches or anything like that. So No. That's right. We didn't. So we'll we'll go ahead and we'll which is good because I still not a 100 percent sure on on got got everything all hammered out. I know who I'm gonna talk to and what I'm and the advantages, but the actual what I would say, I've I haven't got that far. So anyhow Okay. So, anyhow. Next week. Next week. We'll call it for next. We'll we'll pin it for next week. So alright. So guys, anyhow, I wanna say thank y'all very much to the to y'all taking the time and they and and having the efforts that it takes to, listen to the 3 well, 2 of us to yabber. I mean, because Ron if if Ron would shut up just a little bit from time to time, the rest of us the other 2 of us could talk. And it would be, you know, we could have a decent conversation going on. But, no, he just yabbered. I mean, I have to mute him. I bet you didn't even realize I had him muted this whole time, but now Ron's probably looking at this one like, what?
But no. And it
[03:00:36] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? Fuck that motherfucker. That motherfucker kiss my ass. That guy's a dickhead anyway. Exactly.
[03:00:51] Bryan Goodwin:
So But anyhow, guys, this show this show is a value for value show. This is a podcasting 2.0 centric show and that means that we have lots of different features that most of the legacy shows or legacy apps do not even think of. We have the ability for you to just look at chapters. We have the ability to have images with those chapters. And those images aren't just images, those images are GIFs. And then we've got links in those chapters that you can actually go and you can read, read up different things that we have to talk about a different website or 2. So much is going on with podcasting 2 point o. Not only are do we have the chapters, we have, we have transcripts. So if you're if you're somebody who is, trying to figure out what the hell Rich actually said, you could go and pull up the transcript on a podcasting 2 point o app and go, oh, that's what he said. And these these are, a great means of being able to help. So if you got people who are hard of hearing but still wanna be able to partake and listen to the show, they can actually even pull up the transcript and see who is talking at what time and what they're saying and and things like that. But then we also have, our our pod roll which has got an assortment of different, other shows that we listen to and and enjoy.
And so you can actually see and discover new shows that way. And then we also have, just, we have the value for value aspect, which is where you can actually send satoshis as a means of saying thank you. Hey. I like the value of the show. But you can also send messages to us and go, hey, dude. You you know, you're you're sounding really weird right now. Or what the heck are you talking What is this radio thing? You know, who who wants a ham sandwich like that that has to have wires? We could you can ask all these questions and we can point it over to Rich and go, Rich, you're the one that knows all about that stuff. Yeah. You know, I'm I'm still trying to figure out what direction I'm supposed to push my hand up against the wall. So, you know. So so we're, you know, we're it's a wonderful thing to, to do and this podcasting 2.0, specs are are absolutely fascinating and, wonderful win. If you're wanting to listen to our show through podcasting 2.0, most of the time you can also listen to it live. When we're running live, we guess what? You will get a notification. You'll get the bat signal popping up on whatever app you use, and it'll tell you, hey.
2 grumpy vets and a dude is live, and you can listen in and you can actually hear all the mess ups and all the the spaces of of of dead air that we put in here, which usually isn't actually all that much. But sometimes we get around to where we're, like, looking something up and we forget to, to keep talking. So rare times, but we they they do happen. And so we have those great moments of of broadcasting that we share out with everybody. And so you get to partake in all of that. But the biggest part is is that, yeah, our show is a podcast, value for value type of podcast, Which means, if you found any value in what we did, you can actually hit the, you can actually hit the the the, the value tag.
Most, most podcast 2.0 apps have a value button on them. And you will bring up a means for you to be able to help contribute to us. You can contribute some money to us. We could gladly accept whatever treasure you happen to send to us and at whatever increments you'd like to send it. Or if you are wanting to you you're a broke person, the, Biden's economy has just completely strapped you and you don't have the money to be able to, to send our weight, that's cool. We're alright. We're not we're not gonna suck. We're not gonna drown. It's just your, you know, your help your money helps us to be able to make sure the the show keeps going. But if you wanna help out in other ways, we have different ways for you to be able to help out. You can help us out with with graphics and chapter editing and and all sorts of stuff. Just give us a just give us give us a call. Give us a call with our email.
Send us an email. You can send, over to me, circle cast at circle cast, like how goofy cast out a fishing line. Circle [email protected] or rchelson, and that's [email protected]. And both of those will get to one of us and we will be able to answer a question that you have. If you want to help out, we can get We can show you where you where you can help us out at. And we would love to have you join upon join up and for and provide whatever, you know, time, talent, or treasure that you happen to have. So with that, I wanna say thanks so very much for, for listening and join the heck out of it. And, and I can't wait to keep going going on this because there's so much fun and good chance for us to be able to sit around and talk with, with the these guys and the and to have a good laugh, a a chance to think, and, and occasionally we get a a consternation and and get really, really aggravated at each other which makes it even more fun. So anyhow, so, dude, what do you have to say as a closing shot?
[03:06:14] Duuude-Ron :
You know, like we said earlier, you know, that guy just needs to shut the fuck up. He took that's entirely too damn much. And Yes. 2, you know, yeah, I'm having a rough time in life right now. Just bear with me. Hopefully, it'll get better soon.
[03:06:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. When he gets happy, though, Lord, help us because he is just a a ray of sunshine that blinds everybody.
[03:06:46] Duuude-Ron :
Weird.
[03:06:48] Unknown:
Well, there's a
[03:06:50] Rich Chelson:
When do you talk about roller skating?
[03:06:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[03:06:57] Rich Chelson:
Got you on there, dude.
[03:06:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. One of these days, I'll get my skates back out and go shuffle skating one night. Who knows? But, again, thank you for, listening to us. Just well, just what we do.
[03:07:19] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:07:22] Bryan Goodwin:
This is true. This is what we do. We support each other. And it's, you know, sometimes it's us just asking questions, just kinda pushing, kinda nuzzling into the into that personal space just a little bit so that we kinda figure out. It's like, alright. So what is it that's, you know, what's the what's the problem? What's the what's the revelation? What's the win? What's the loss, of of our life? So that we are parts of each other. We are 3 good friends who spend a lot of time each week with each other. And that's what men need as a whole.
The men who are struggling to find themselves struggling to feel like there's no one they can turn to. There are other guys out there and you can actually take the time to go, Hey, man. I I think I like you. Come on over here. Sit down. Let's have a conversation. Let's talk. And you could talk for a little bit and go, you know what? Alright. I kinda like you. You're you're cool. You wanna talk again next week? Sure. Alright. Let's sit down. We'll have to talk. If you find anybody that you think would join in, that'd do pretty good. Bring them in. Bring them in. And that y'all can bring grow the group together. And as you grow, you develop and grow your community. And your community becomes crucial to you having the joy and the happiness and the fulfillment that you want because those friends of yours are going to push you to success. They're gonna push you to for you to find what makes you smile.
And it's not necessarily that you're always going to be in a good mood. It's not you're not gonna be walking around with a smile hanging out of your asshole, but you're gonna have a better disposition. You're gonna have a better life because you're having a sense of fulfillment, which is actually more important than walking around being happy all the time. So many of us guys are worried that I'm not happy all the time. Well, you're not supposed to be. You're gonna be you're gonna feel pain half the time of your life. The other half is gonna be happy, but you're gonna have those those those valleys. You got your peaks, you got your valleys, you got them both. That's part of life. That is what you have to go through. And if you're constantly resisting going into the valleys, you're never going to get to experience the glories of those peaks.
You have to have the sad and the pain to enjoy the the glories of those fulfilling moments of life. So with that, Rich, what do you have to say?
[03:10:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, with that, I gotta I I just I gotta keep saying it because well, actually, we haven't talked about it for a minute, but I just I just gotta keep thanking everybody for for listening because, damn, we're at 1085 downloads. And, if if I remember right,
[03:10:25] Bryan Goodwin:
We were under a 1,003 last week.
[03:10:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, I mean, our our number's been going up, and we hit we hit a 1,000 downloads before our 6 month anniversary. Right. And I wanna say that, in fact, this week is our 6 month anniversary if I Are we finally hitting 6? I've I I'm almost I'm almost sure. Let me check real quick. Shoot. We've done so many. We got 2 pages now. Yeah. Actually, 15th April, we dropped our first episode, and 13th April was when I put the trailer out. So, yeah, just yeah. 6 months and a couple days. So and we have a 1085 downloads from 12 different countries. It it's insane. It's it's a it it's amazed me, and I I you know, as this is what this is what keeps me coming back because there's somebody that wants to hear me talk.
You know? And not very many people wanna hear me talk.
[03:11:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Nope. But and my the one client that I have that, that listens to the show, he loves the shit out of you. He thinks he he thinks you're just the funniest damn thing he's ever come across.
[03:11:51] Unknown:
What?
[03:11:52] Rich Chelson:
I don't know how, but okay. I appreciate it. You're perpetually stoned as part of it. So I Well, no. No. I'd no. Sorry. Well, I don't you know you know, it's it's been over 30 years since I have smoked any weed, but the weed I smoked the last weed I smoked really did a number on me. And so, yeah, I I don't know. Maybe it's maybe it's the after effects
[03:12:18] Bryan Goodwin:
It's still happening 30 years later. I don't know. You still feel that you've been stoned for 30 years. Right. Right.
[03:12:26] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. It's just that's that's the main thing. It's just I'm shocked that that, you know, people are listening to our to our episodes, listen to what we have to say. What I mean and, yeah, reach out to us. [email protected]. For me, Rich, or Brian at circle cast atgmail.com. And we'll be happy to, reach out and talk to you. And, you know, if you wanna donate, that's great. You know? Go to, our website, what, to grumpy vets.com? Yep. Yeah. Yep. And, there's a way to donate to And that's the word to, t w o? Yeah. T w o, not not the number. And, yeah, We don't care if it's 50¢, a dollar.
We don't care because we just like doing this because, like like Brian says, you know, guys need to have actual conversations. You know, if you're just sitting there, you know, sitting around drinking beer, smoking weed, and grunting, that's not a conversation. You need to actually have a conversation. So, you know, it's just find you some friends who you like, hang out with, and talk to, and talk about different stuff. Who knows? You might learn something. Exactly. So So But that's about all I got. Alright.
[03:13:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, guys, thank you all again for, for listening. And, dude, Rich, thank you all again for coming on. And, thank you, bro. It's been a been a good time. And, we still gotta figure out, I guess I guess here soon, we need to have the, have the roller skating skating centric, episode and and, and and just watch watch, watch Ron just completely geek out. So That would be really cool.
[03:14:28] Rich Chelson:
Dude, what you think about that?
[03:14:32] Duuude-Ron :
You know, talk talking about it and doing it are something 2 completely different things. You know? I don't really know know how I could talk about it. I just like to actually physically do it.
[03:14:49] Rich Chelson:
Well, you got to skate. So what they charge to go skating? $5? $10?
[03:14:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Considering today's inflation, probably closer to $25 to go. If you had drone time I
[03:15:05] Duuude-Ron :
yeah. The last time I went before COVID, it was $10 ahead if you had your own skates for 3 hours.
[03:15:16] Bryan Goodwin:
They charged it for 3 hours? And so after 3 hours, you had to pay again?
[03:15:22] Duuude-Ron :
No. They they were only open for 3 hours.
[03:15:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh god.
[03:15:28] Duuude-Ron :
What? That's what I always thought. That's a bummer. But You just finally get yourself all limbered up. Well, dude shit. I remember I remember doing the fucking skateathons where we were there for 24 hours. Right.
[03:15:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, dude, why don't you put your skates on and go skating out in the street?
[03:15:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because they're not, outdoor wheels.
[03:15:51] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[03:15:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. He's gonna have the metal wheels. Remember?
[03:15:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I gotta have the metal wheels with no bearings and the, No bearings. Yeah. Yeah. And the and the screw going towards it. Oh, and the and, you know, the laces to go up over my shoes.
[03:16:07] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's what they we'll see.
[03:16:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I may I'm old. I ain't that old. But, you know, I still know people that started like that. Absolutely. So Right? Yep.
[03:16:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Well, guys, we'll go ahead and let y'all go so that, those of us who are are owed and and tired can go actually go to bed and, get some snoozes. And so, anyhow, everybody have yourselves a great incredible weekend, and we will see y'all next Thursday. Till then. Bye.
[03:16:46] Duuude-Ron :
Later. See you. See you.
[03:16:50] Rich Chelson:
Later, guys. Night. Alright. Bye.
