Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets and a Dude, where three friends, Bryan, Rich, and the Dude, come together to share their unique perspectives on life, humor, and the importance of male friendships. This week, we dive into a variety of topics, starting with an intriguing discussion about a solar storm and its potential effects, leading to a humorous exchange about radio signals and amateur radio contacts.
We then shift gears to explore the dynamics of passionate discussions among friends, emphasizing the importance of spirited debates and how they can strengthen relationships. The conversation takes a technical turn as we delve into the challenges of podcasting technology, including live streaming issues and audio setups.
The episode also features a lively recount of a car show experience, highlighting the excitement of classic cars and the joy of cruising along the coast. We share stories of unique vehicles, the camaraderie among car enthusiasts, and the vibrant atmosphere of the event.
In a more reflective segment, Bryan discusses his journey with coaching and the potential of offering coaching as an employee benefit. This leads to a broader conversation about the value of coaching, the challenges of marketing oneself, and the importance of having a supportive community.
Throughout the episode, we touch on various personal anecdotes, from the joys of puzzles and hobbies to the challenges of adulting and the desire to escape the mundane. Join us for a candid, humorous, and insightful conversation that underscores the power of friendship and intentional living.
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[00:00:01]
Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude. Reporting in progress.
[00:00:36] Rich Chelson:
If it's not Mister Bryan. Hello. What's up, dude?
[00:00:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Not a much. And you?
[00:00:46] Rich Chelson:
I'm wore the fuck out.
[00:00:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh. So It's Not getting much, radio from what I'm understanding. We're supposed to be getting what? Like, a big storm you know, solar storm coming through. There's people in Amarillo asking if they can see the or see the Aurora Borealis this tonight. Yeah. No. It's not supposed to come down that far. Yeah. It's supposed to, like, what I saw in Noah is about, about the bottom south for most southern part of Nebraska, maybe.
[00:01:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. We got a g 4 coming through, and, we had a, g 3 just a couple days ago. I don't know. Yeah. I'm not sure what the hell's going on. Why I mean, yeah. It's I'm I'm not even trying. I saw the numbers the other day, and I'm like, yeah. I'm not even No animal. No animal. No. I did I did POTA the other day during the day during the day, and it was it was a challenge to get 12 contacts.
[00:01:48] Duuude-Ron :
Wow.
[00:01:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, whereas normally, yeah, I could pop 12 contacts within less than 30 minutes. Okay. So Oh oh, god. Damn it.
[00:02:03] Bryan Goodwin:
I will remember to do that next time one day.
[00:02:07] Rich Chelson:
Let's see here.
[00:02:08] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll just need to shoot Ron a text.
[00:02:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You can't forget the Dizzaroos?
[00:02:14] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Because now I'm gonna need I'm gonna need yours and Ron's assistance here.
[00:02:25] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:02:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Because I think I've got a plan. And I'm sure someone has mentioned this plan to me before, but it finally became my idea. So it just took a while to sink in.
[00:02:40] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. So That that's why I love you, Brad.
[00:02:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:02:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I wasn't trying to piss you off last night, dude. No. Well and that's just it. You weren't. I
[00:02:51] Bryan Goodwin:
when I get in I become impassioned
[00:02:54] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[00:02:55] Bryan Goodwin:
I become that's how I talk, which annoys the shit out of my wife because she wants tell her to stop yelling at her. And I'm like, I'm not yelling. I'm just talking to you.
[00:03:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. No. You weren't you weren't yelling, yelling. I I mean, I you know, I understood for what it was. Right. You know? And everything like this. And I I mean, I get it because I've I've been the same way. You know? Right. Because it's like it's like, by god, when when I've got it clear as mud in my head,
[00:03:27] Bryan Goodwin:
fuck it. That's it. I'm not listening to nothing else. I know what I'm talking about, dad. Burn it. I'm telling you. I know what I'm saying, and it's it works this way, and it works I know, and, oh, it works that way too. Yeah.
[00:03:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. And then and then and then, yeah, later on, I'm like, wow. That didn't go as planned. Nope. It's like, fuck. May maybe I should've listened to someone else. Oh, hell no. I ain't gonna admit that. I know that. Yeah.
[00:03:57] Bryan Goodwin:
I have no problem admitting it. It just has to be like I said, it just has to become my idea before, before I accept it. So Right. I know.
[00:04:09] Rich Chelson:
But anyhow, so But, yeah, no, it was
[00:04:13] Bryan Goodwin:
I was gonna wonder if we were staring on or not.
[00:04:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That that thought that thought because Ron didn't say too much, man. No.
[00:04:27] Bryan Goodwin:
He was just like, I'm gonna hang out of the question, out of the out of the picture here. He's like he's like he's like, I ain't even getting up in this.
[00:04:35] Rich Chelson:
No. I mean, it's just you see and and see this oh, well, hang on. Yeah. Yeah. We'll scroll to that here in a second. But Oh, hell yes. You see, though, that's the thing. You know you know, we did that last night on our vet call, you know, that, that we have, you know, once a week on Wednesday, but, you know, sometimes I think we've done it once or twice on the podcast here.
[00:05:06] Bryan Goodwin:
But Yeah. We've gotten we've gotten into discussions, but, I mean, that was that was a that was a no. No. No. You ain't listening to what I'm saying. I don't think you're listening to what I'm saying. No. That's because you're not listening to what I'm saying. Right. Right. But but
[00:05:21] Rich Chelson:
but see, though, that's the thing. You know? It's you see, a lot of people, whether they're male or female, I mean, you know, we lean towards the male side because we happen to know the male side better than the female side. Right. But, you know, it is it is okay for for a 2 men to have an impassioned discussion, a spirited discussion and still be friends.
[00:05:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, very much so. And and Exactly good for for relationships to have.
[00:05:54] Rich Chelson:
Yes. It is.
[00:05:57] Bryan Goodwin:
So and that's that's something a lot of society right now doesn't understand. They're all wigged out and and shy about it. And they're, oh, no. We can't, we can't be having that type of, that type of discussion. It's like, well, yeah, actually, and you can have it as spirited debate. That's what a spirited debate is about. Yeah. It's all spirit.
[00:06:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, and and and you see back when schools had debate teams, I mean, they were whatever subject they had, whether they were for or against it, they freaking they freaking became, very much impassioned with that subject. Right. You know, because they had studied so much on it and everything like that. And so, no, it it you no. You're right. It is healthy once in a while to, you know, to have a discussion like that.
[00:06:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Oh, I did, I did make a discovery this weekend because I this this last weekend, I was wanting to do, do some live streaming on, through the, the, podcasting 2.0 protocol. You know, be able to go through the, the modern podcasting apps you which you can get over at modern podcastingapps. Or new podcastingapps.comor@, podcasting, 2.org, slash apps. And, I was running into the echo problem where if I would talk for a little bit, I would I'd be yada yada yada. And then a few moments, you know, I I think it's about a damn minute long delay. It or yeah. It's a long old delay, but then you would hear yada yada yada yada, and it would be a little dimmer.
And about a minute later, you'd hear yada yada yada yada. And a minute later, yada yada yada. And it would and I get was okay. I was, like, going, okay. This is there's gotta be something going on here. And I got around to look and and I got to thinking. It's like, well, wait a minute. Let's see if I mute just the the channel. Mute the channel so I can't hear it. It's gonna still put it out, but I can't hear it. And so I talk and I say something, you know, like Mary had a little lamb and I wait and I wait and I wait and I couldn't hear it. I was like, oh, it's not doing the mix minus on on the, on the, on the Procaster.
What you actually have to do to do the the mix minus is down at the very bottom. You have your your mute, but you also can hit the ear. So you can hear what's going on on the, on the on the on the deal. So you can mute it Yeah. But it'll mute the audio also. But if you hit the ear, it'll allow you to continue hearing people and does the mix minus for you. And so I was actually able to talk and didn't get any re any echo.
[00:09:10] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Now that's on the, Procaster. Right? Yep. Now the Zoom p 4?
[00:09:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I haven't figured that one out yet.
[00:09:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, is it is it on Zoom or is it on OBS?
[00:09:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Actually, I wasn't using OBS.
[00:09:28] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yeah. You was just using, but
[00:09:34] Bryan Goodwin:
I just turned, I just opened up the butt.
[00:09:37] Rich Chelson:
Opened up the butt. That didn't sound right.
[00:09:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Know. And and that's I whoever came up with the broadcast using this tool and and broke it down to butt is a genius, actually. Fucking genius. I know. Right. Because you're you're you're gonna giggle every time you're talking about, well, I was playing around with the butt. Yeah. And and and and I opened the butt. I opened the butt. Wide. Opened up butt, and then I was looking around in there. And, no, it was just for what, I don't and it may just be something with how, what is the a b, whatever that other, other plug in that we have to use to be able to to gain the the audio from, gain the audio and put it into in the butt. You know? Yeah. The the basically, they're virtual, virtual audio cables.
Right. And just having that and, and, but I was able to live stream to, to the, to the server. And was able to get it to go out. And as a matter of fact, I could even go as far as connecting up the phone to, to the, Procaster and was able to live stream through that also. So I was able send my voice through it.
[00:11:08] Rich Chelson:
And then through, but, and then out through PODDOME. Yeah. Okay.
[00:11:15] Bryan Goodwin:
So, but, on the, I mean, the only thing I can I haven't I haven't taken the Zoom over to, over there yet to actually look to see if maybe I can recreate the, the echo deal either? But for yours, it cut it's it's almost reverb echo.
[00:11:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. But and and see, that's why and see, the thing is it did work.
[00:11:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And I mean, we got it to work in a couple times. Yeah. Yeah. We did. And then I I
[00:11:53] Rich Chelson:
I must have changed the setting for summary because well, you see, when it's okay, if you know, if I'm using a virtual audio cable Uh-huh. While we're podcasting, that's fine. But then, you know, if I try to go watch a a video on YouTube or watch a video on, Facebook, then, I can't hear nothing. Okay. Or or or like if I go to edit with, Audacity, I can't hear I can't hear anything, so I've gotta switch it over to speakers. Mhmm. You know? So so I can edit and stuff like that. But then when, you know, if I switch it back,
[00:12:38] Bryan Goodwin:
for some reason, it has it It go it reverts back to the echo. Yeah.
[00:12:46] Rich Chelson:
So and and you see that's he is. I'm not sure. I'll I'll, I'll play with it this week and see if I have to switch it on on my computer first before I start anything up, and then I'll bring butt up and Yeah. And I'll try it. In fact, I'll probably do that tomorrow.
[00:13:13] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[00:13:15] Rich Chelson:
And try and figure this out because it's just it's, it's frustrating. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, we did have it working and working good.
[00:13:26] Bryan Goodwin:
So yeah. But yeah. It's just, I don't know. That's that's odd that it's it would the only thing I could think of is it's gotta be something between the virtual cable and OBS when you open up OBS. And that might be something you try to see what happens if you just don't even open up OBS
[00:13:49] Duuude-Ron :
at all. Okay.
[00:13:52] Bryan Goodwin:
And see how that works.
[00:13:54] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because yeah. I mean, I mean, honestly, mainly, I mean, we don't really need OBS, do we?
[00:14:01] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean No. We were using it because that's how the directions gave it to us, was to say open up, OBS, but you're not actually putting the video stream into it. Right. Right. So it's just you're just put peeling the, the audio stream off of it. So now you really don't need OBS, unless for whatever reason because Windows, it's which is odd because usually it's Apple. If, if you if Apple's the one that's it's a freaking mother bearer to peel, to peel the audio layer off of a off of off of any type of program.
[00:14:38] Rich Chelson:
Well Yeah. Freaking Apple is is so stuck up about their their their their, extension. It's crazy.
[00:14:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah, because they gotta keep the they they wanna make sure it freaking works.
[00:14:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, I understand that, but they can still make sure it works.
[00:14:58] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, WAVE is actually pretty good if you ask me. I like WAVE. No. No. I use WAVE on on on on my the on the back. So whenever I'm so I don't use the what is it? The AAC?
[00:15:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's, that's Apple.
[00:15:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Apple's form of of the, the waveform.
[00:15:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh. So Yeah. I guess I can't do that. Hang on. Let me fire up OBS. Yeah. I closed OBS, and, butt wasn't showing anything. It just died out. I got it back. So, yeah, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna have to play with that tomorrow and, see if I can just use but because
[00:15:45] Bryan Goodwin:
it may have been, may have been some type of update that I didn't catch. So
[00:15:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Might have been. I don't know. I haven't seen, but then again, I haven't been paying attention much to updates. I've been getting a couple, but Right. I haven't been paying attention exactly what all the updates are. So But
[00:16:09] Bryan Goodwin:
So good. So and how is the dude? Dude.
[00:16:15] Duuude-Ron :
Just living the fucking life. Living the fucking life. Going to work, work, going home, going to bed, get up, go to work, rinse and repeat.
[00:16:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, at least you at least you have a routine down. You can just just creep right along just do anything.
[00:16:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I wish you'd go along a hell of a lot quicker or just not fucking wake up tomorrow.
[00:16:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Nah. Nah. We need you to wake up tomorrow. Because if Yeah. Because if you don't wake up tomorrow, that means there's chance you're probably not gonna wake up the following day. And then eventually, Thursday's gonna roll around here, and then all of a sudden, it's not 2 grumpy vets and a dude. It's 2 grumpy vets and no one. And and we gotta have you because, you know, you are the dude.
[00:17:16] Rich Chelson:
That's right. You are the dude. We cannot be the dude. Sorry, man. Hate that you're you're freaking bubble.
[00:17:28] Duuude-Ron :
Critical part of the show. Alright.
[00:17:32] Rich Chelson:
You are, man. You are.
[00:17:35] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I appreciate that. Now just another fucking day in the fucking history books.
[00:17:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it it can be. Yeah.
[00:17:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And then listening to you guys talk, I should have fucking waited about another 20 minutes to come on. No. No. No. If I if I was working at the post office, you know, you wouldn't have to wait for it, dude. Well, no. I wouldn't have to come in for a couple hours because all they do is for the first two hours is, stand around and chitchat and scratch their balls.
[00:18:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah.
[00:18:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, my balls, you know, those are back in Iraq. It was it was a joke I heard. Guy asked, I'll give you a $1,000,000 for every foot that you tell me to measure on your body. So the first guy puts his arms out and says, measure me from fingertip to fingertip. And so he does. It was, 4 feet wide, so he got $4,000,000. Next guy says, okay. Measure me from head to toe. So he was 6 foot tall, so he got $6,000,000. The next guy says, measure me from the head of my dick to my balls. He's like, excuse me? He's like, just do it. So he whips the shit out and measures and goes, man, where's your balls at?
Oh, they're back in Vietnam.
[00:19:21] Rich Chelson:
Holy shit.
[00:19:24] Duuude-Ron :
So yeah. Did you just send a did you just send me an image?
[00:19:28] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I did. I did. It was that that was on a text, wasn't it? Yeah. It was yeah. Because, Yeah. I yeah. It was on a text.
[00:19:43] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So you got what? 3 tea buckets lined up together?
[00:19:48] Rich Chelson:
It's actually 4. The 4th one's in there. But, yeah, it's yeah. Yeah. I I was I was down there in freaking Biloxi today and, rolled into this gas station just to get turned around so I could go back out. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw them, tea buckets right there. And, it's like, yeah, I've gotta get a picture of those.
[00:20:25] Duuude-Ron :
So You know, I've never, you know, I was never really too much of a tea bucket type person.
[00:20:31] Rich Chelson:
You said last night she was.
[00:20:33] Duuude-Ron :
No. I said I'm a 29 through 31 Ford pickup type guy.
[00:20:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, okay. Damn, dude.
[00:20:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, now if somebody gave me a tea bucket, I wouldn't turn them down. Well I would just I would just modify it and put me a little truck bed in the back, you know, make it out of some 2 by tens and, you know, something like that so I could have a place to carry my fucking cooler.
[00:21:07] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. No. This this guys, I gotta tell you right now. Cruising the coast is fucking fucking American graffiti on steroids. I'm serious, man. I mean, I mean, I mean, I love that movie American Graffiti. Right? Oh, hell yeah. I mean, great cars. It's great everything. Yeah. This and and, say I had to go to physical therapy today and and my cute girl was there. And, I was I was talking to her and she said there there was, as of yesterday, there was 8,800 and some cars registered. Damn. So that's that's what's down here. And and, oh my god, riding riding up down on Highway 90 on Beach Boulevard, right along the fucking gulf, and you're riding with with with all these old cars passing you, mixed up in you. It's just it I mean It's cool, man. It's cool. Oh, man. Anyone who's a car guy will nut themselves.
Seriously. I mean, it's it's it's straight up. Wear a fucking condom. You're gonna get messy. No. It just I mean and and and and you see, that's the thing. There's, like, 3 barracudas, I saw today. I've seen a 58 Olds, and and these are cars that that they're old. They're the hot rods, but they're not the mass hot rods like the 55 Chevys, 56 Chevys, 57 Chevys. Right. You know, they're I mean, these are these are the offsides. And and I I freaking love those cars just as much, if not more than the ones that, everyone else knows.
You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. And, oh, I saw it it was it was the seventies in the seventies, but I saw a Lincoln Continental Mark 5.
[00:23:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Good grief. That was what? Two and a half miles long, wasn't it?
[00:23:36] Rich Chelson:
I guarantee you, one and a half times my Jeep at least.
[00:23:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Well, there was a guy who was talking about his, his seventies, Lincoln Mark 5, and it showed him pulling into a into a park a parking spot. Uh-huh. And, his front door came up to the back door of the car that was parked. Mhmm. Right. It's like, we've got a football field for a for a for a hood here. So Oh, no shit. And and that's the thing. This car I mean I mean,
[00:24:08] Rich Chelson:
I I fucking drove right up beside it. We was going down Beach Boulevard, and I just I just I was driving down the road, and I just happened to look over, and I'm like, holy fuck. I'm like, damn. I haven't seen something that big in since I was, what, 15, 16 years old. Oh, hell yeah. You know? I'm like I'm like, dang. I'm also like, that's that was classic. And and it was it was it was it had been redone. You know? It was nice. It was really nice. And I'm like, man. I'm like, god. See? That's when cars were real.
[00:24:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:24:47] Rich Chelson:
You know? And and, I mean, all these cars I've seen and, you know, and shit like this, man, it's just it's it's freaking insane. Right. Plus plus, it was funny. I I got I got I was going going through Biloxi, and it was a 69 rally sport, Camaro. And and it was, it was it was painted like the British racing green, but not as dark. It was just a touch lighter than the British racing green. And, I mean, beautiful car. Oh, fuck. It was beautiful. Well, I'm riding down Biloxi. I'm naked. No top. No doors. No nothing. I I'm just everything's off, and and, they come past me.
I looked over at their car and smiled and nodding my head at him, and the guy's wife looked over at at my Jeep, smiled and nodded at my Jeep. And I'm like, hell, yeah. We could do that all day long. But, yeah, this, I mean, this is this is an insane car. I I mean, I have never seen anything like it. You know? Because most car shows, you know, people gather in a Hardee's parking lot or, you know, somewhere, and then they sit there for 5, 6 hours. Okay. We're done. We're leaving. Here, everybody mixes with fucking everybody because the Jeeps there was Jeeps out, tops, doors off, everywhere in mixed with the cars. There was, newer hot rides, older hot rides.
I mean, everybody just fucking comes together and just cruises, man. They fucking cruise. It's like, it's like, it's like, oh my god. You know? I mean, back in the day when we were allowed to cruise the strip, well, they just have a strip that's 60 miles long you can cruise.
[00:27:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Right.
[00:27:07] Rich Chelson:
You know? But yeah. No. It's just, yeah, it's just cool as shit, man.
[00:27:14] Duuude-Ron :
I can imagine everybody being I can imagine everybody being out there with the hot rods.
[00:27:20] Rich Chelson:
Oh, dude. Ron, I you would be, dude, you'd be smiling from ear to ear. Just all kinds. Just here, there, and everywhere. Oh, I'm sure I would be. And and the thing is people down here, they fuck set their, chairs up and them and them little pop up canopies Yeah. Right on the side of the road. They say fuck it. I ain't driving. Y'all drive by. I'm gonna look at you.
[00:27:48] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:27:49] Rich Chelson:
I mean, it's Yeah. That's
[00:27:51] Duuude-Ron :
and and, like, we'll Yeah. Because they're actually out there cruising. They're not going to a a freaking big parking lot and sitting.
[00:28:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, though, the thing is just about every big parking lot, there are so many cars. They've got cars that are sitting, and then they still got cars running up and down Beach Boulevard. They got all kinds of shit going on from, like, 8, 9 o'clock in the morning until whenever at night. You know? But Right. And, like like, I was going past one of the casinos, and there was people with their lawn chairs sitting in front of the casino. They weren't gambling. They were sitting on the you know, right in front of the casino on the grass watching the cars go by. Enjoying the view. Right. Yeah. No. I mean, it it's like where else do you see that shit?
You know? I mean, I would I would like to know.
[00:28:55] Duuude-Ron :
You know, the only things that I ever see anymore is like, okay. Not last weekend, but the weekend before, they had the good guys national car show up at the big racetrack up in, Fort Worth. Right. So, you know, did I saw a few cars pass me because I was heading up to, and it saw us on 35. You know, I had a few cars pass me, couple cars. We have had my pickup truck on the trailer. You know? There was a 31, Ford pickup truck. It was, like a bronze color. Beautiful truck. You know? And I'm like, man, I fucking wish man, I wish I had that fucking truck. You know? Because I've already had, well, what I was gonna do with the hot rod, and that didn't fucking turn out my way.
But, you know and I've already had one. It's like, fuck. You know?
[00:30:13] Rich Chelson:
But but see see exactly, Ron. This this is what I was thinking about. Like, okay. Take the good guys car show. That's up at a big racetrack. All the cars do all they do is go up there, park, and you go look at it. Exactly. Yes. Yes. That's I I you know? And and I had seen not on a scale that big, but but I had seen car shows like that where, you know, everyone goes and parks and then you go look at them. Okay. And then, well, let's go drink beer. Down here down here, cruising the coast has a life of its own inside of the life on the Gulf Coast.
[00:30:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because they're because they're actually coming down for the most part. Yeah. They're gonna sit and they're gonna show their cars off in the parking lot, and they're gonna, you know, sit behind them like they do with the, you know, canopy and, you know, come and look at my car. And then they're gonna take the canopy down, and then they're gonna actually go cruising, and everybody all the hot rods are actually cruising around. Oh, yeah. They're not just going to they're not just going to one centralized location because you said it's, what, spread out 60 miles between, what, 5, 6 towns?
[00:31:36] Rich Chelson:
Like, almost 8 or 9. Yeah. Okay. From a base of Saint Louis to Pascagoula and every little town in between.
[00:31:46] Duuude-Ron :
Right. And what is the road that takes them all the way through there?
[00:31:50] Rich Chelson:
US Highway 90, Beach Boulevard.
[00:31:53] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Is it a 4 lane? Yes. Yeah. Okay. And With obviously turning lanes in the middle.
[00:32:02] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[00:32:03] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. And and, yeah, that would be great to go and watch and intermingle with, the cars cruising by. Absolutely. That would be a freaking mall. Oh, yeah. But you said yeah. There's no place that that I know of. Right. It's just a go and sit type car show. We had one here in between Belton and Temple that was ribs and rods. Well, it was a freaking, like, $10 entrance fee to go in there. Oh my god. And that that and that isn't even fucking getting you a plate of food. That's just the emission cost. Oh, I don't know. You know, I can understand the yeah. I've gone to car shows where there where there's admission fee to, you know, go to car shows. Yeah. I've I've done that all my life. But, you know no.
Because I can go and once a month, they have a, a car show up at, in Elmont, just north of, Waco. And they'll have 50, 60 cars, and this is the 1st Saturday of the month. And it's free for the car, to put your car into it because I used to put my, the 50 Chevy truck into it, and it's free for the spectators. It's just a get together. You know, they have cars, but there's no entrance fee.
[00:33:49] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, yeah. And most of the ones I've been to are like that, you know, which is cool. Yes. And it's like that's like down here. There's for the spectators, there is no entrance fee.
[00:34:03] Duuude-Ron :
Well, shit. The whole damn fucking highway is the fucking goddamn spectator. Right. Right. You know?
[00:34:12] Rich Chelson:
No. And and he's yeah. No. It just I I mean, I was just sitting there. I was amazed. You know? I would you know, I'd actually start because say they all left the house early today because I had a I had a a physical therapy appointment this afternoon, and it's like, well, shit. I'm gonna be over by Biloxi and freaking freaking. My hell. Hell. Let me go to Hobby Lobby. It's a wrong fucking answer. Do not let me go to Hobby Lobby.
[00:34:45] Bryan Goodwin:
You as bad as my wife.
[00:34:47] Rich Chelson:
A 126 fucking dollars later?
[00:34:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. You're as bad as my wife.
[00:34:53] Rich Chelson:
I come walking out of Hobby Lobby. Oh my god. I I was I I I was I I've got I've got 2 paintings because last weekend, they had what was called Zonta, and I didn't know what it was. But down here, Zonta is like a arts and crafts festival.
[00:35:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:35:18] Rich Chelson:
They have live music vendors and all in you know? And, so in my, my neighbor told me about it. He said, dude, you gotta go check it out. I said, alright. Now what the hell? I'll do that. You know? Saturday, I didn't give a fuck. And I I go down over there, and I was actually shocked. I found a park, a place to park fairly close. And so I was walking up, and when I come up, this this first vendor, I I saw, he had some paintings on these tables, on these plastic tables. Nice. Different paintings, you know, mainly of the marine life boats and stuff like that from down here. Right? Well, come to find out, he's a a Navy Seabee, and he me and him me and him got to talking about military and stuff like that. Well, he said his wife, paints these pictures and everything. I'm like, really? He's like, yeah. And so, I wound up buying 2 that I liked. There was there was, like, 3 I was looking at, but these 2 I bought, I was I was I was liking.
[00:36:41] Bryan Goodwin:
So,
[00:36:43] Rich Chelson:
I bought them, brought them home. One's a 12 by 18, one's 11 by 14. And the 12 by 18, trying to find a frame for a print is hard.
[00:36:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You gotta go do custom frames.
[00:36:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well so that's why I wound up at Hobby Lobby. And I didn't take the the, painting with me because, you know, I was naked, and I didn't I didn't wanna hurt the Jeep. And so
[00:37:13] Duuude-Ron :
You just want you just wanna hurt everybody else.
[00:37:17] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean?
[00:37:19] Bryan Goodwin:
You run around naked. Around naked.
[00:37:22] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know what? They was all smiling, so I must be doing something right.
[00:37:29] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? I, you know, I just I don't believe you. But you driving around naked? No. No. But Nope. Alright. But, anyway
[00:37:40] Rich Chelson:
But So you know I I in the lobby? Yeah. I was in Hobby Lobby and then, was a was a back there by the frames. Got talking with, the guy back there. Come to find out he's a fucking tanker. So so me and him got to talking about the army and, like the Abrams, one zero nines and all that shit. And then and then when and then we finally got talking about frames and everything like this. So next week, when I go to physical therapy, I'm gonna have to take my 12 by 18 in and, you know, see if they have the style wood or the color wood I want in stock. And then, hopefully, he can make the frame on the spot.
[00:38:38] Duuude-Ron :
Right. So you spend a $126 at Hobby Lobby. You go and spend another $126 at Hobby Lobby.
[00:38:50] Rich Chelson:
Probably. Yeah. Because next well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how much a frame's gonna cost me next week. I mean, I hope I don't I I'm no. I I was not planning but but, see, I was after I got talking done talking with the tanker guy, I got to looking around, and, I found me some I found me 3 jigsaw puzzles. I found me a calendar. Say I found me some hard candy. Found me a a cool looking towel bar and a cool looking, toilet paper holder for the bathroom even though I already have those, but they was half off. So they was it's so so so I could rationalize it in my head. Oh. I was gonna say, so you could justify the purchase
[00:39:45] Duuude-Ron :
if they were half off a marked up price to get you impressed to buy something that you already had one of that was just a little bit nicer maybe. It looks like we lost
[00:40:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We lost Brian.
[00:40:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So we could just continue on. But, of course, you know, did you get any, Halloween decorations for the house?
[00:40:19] Rich Chelson:
No. Thought about it.
[00:40:21] Duuude-Ron :
Thought about it. I bet you did. I bet you did. I purchased a lot of fucking Halloween decorations from Hobby Lobby in the past.
[00:40:29] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. See, that's the thing. I I mean, Halloween is not normally my jam. The fall, Thanksgiving, Christmas, that's normally my jam. You know? I that's I like that a lot. But Yeah. That the thing is, though, this year is, like, I don't I don't really know if I wanna do anything.
[00:40:54] Duuude-Ron :
Right. No. I understand.
[00:40:56] Rich Chelson:
Kinda want to because I actually have the room to do something. You know? Yeah. But thing is, though, it's like, shit. It's just me. So it's like, what?
[00:41:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:41:09] Rich Chelson:
I'm gonna spend all this money just to make me happy? Why don't I save this money and make me happy?
[00:41:19] Duuude-Ron :
Listen. Because you just had to go to Hobby Lobby and find something that was 50% off of a marked up price to buy something to make you feel happy when you could've saved the money, been just as happy from what you just said. Right. Of course, I'm trying to be the, of course, I'm trying to be the devil's fucking advocate here. And then you got yourself some jigsaw puzzles. When you get done with the jigsaw puzzles, do you plan on getting some, like, what the, what the fuck do they call it? The the lamination and laminate the back of the jigsaw puzzle and then put that in the frame?
These here,
[00:42:09] Rich Chelson:
yes. I am thinking about doing that this time because these are I I got I got 31,000 piece puzzles. I I don't do 500 or 300. I do I do 1,000 or nothing. And I've done I've done puzzles, had them all completed, but I've never saved them or I've lost a piece or whatnot. So this time this time, I know I can I can I can complete this whole puzzle, and I've never framed one? I've seen them framed, and they look okay. They look good.
[00:42:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. They look nice. You know? I know. It yeah. It's a it's a puzzle, but Mhmm. That was your accomplishment to finish the puzzle.
[00:42:54] Rich Chelson:
Exactly. And so and so yeah. Yeah. I am thinking about getting because I got puzzle glue, and you basically, squirt it on top, rub it in, let it dry, flip it over, squirt it again on the back, rub it in, let it dry, and then frame it. So but yeah.
[00:43:19] Duuude-Ron :
Never heard of that.
[00:43:21] Rich Chelson:
That's what they say they do.
[00:43:23] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, I've never heard of puzzle glue. That's something completely new to me. Really? Okay. Yeah. But I'm sure it it works.
[00:43:33] Rich Chelson:
No. It does. I mean, I don't know. I mean, honestly, I've never tried it. So but I would
[00:43:38] Duuude-Ron :
my myself, I would take, like, map lamination and cover the back of it so you definitely know that the pieces ain't gonna fucking move.
[00:43:51] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:43:51] Duuude-Ron :
Once you get once you get them sandwich well and once you get them sandwiched in a frame, but it depends on how big that is as well.
[00:44:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, see though you see, that's the thing now. I think I think this is why they say do the top of it because the glue dries clear.
[00:44:09] Duuude-Ron :
You know?
[00:44:11] Rich Chelson:
So so this is why they say do the top of it and glue it so so it gets down in there and holds everything together so you can flip it over. And in the back, you got the back glue, gluing on the back is just like, extra security.
[00:44:29] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. So I don't know. I've I've never heard of it. And, you know, hey. Probably a great thing because, yeah, there's a I'm sure that there's a lot of prints of puzzles that would look beautiful in a frame. Oh, yeah. Now now do I have any? No.
[00:44:49] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:44:50] Duuude-Ron :
No. I I don't, but I've seen them as well. And, you know, there's some out there that look very nice.
[00:44:56] Rich Chelson:
Well, and see, you see, that's the thing. You know? I'm I mean, one, I've I've always liked puzzles. I've always liked doing puzzles. Right? And sometimes puzzles allow me to, get out of my head. So I I thought and and, I mean, I'm not really in my head anymore, but still, it's just nice to have a somewhat of a distraction because doing a puzzle, you're just concentrating on that puzzle.
[00:45:29] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Very true. Yeah. Very true.
[00:45:32] Rich Chelson:
So it's just like so so I'm like, you know and these here, down here, they were only, like, $19 a pop, which, yeah, is a little pricey, but it's not as pricey as they could be.
[00:45:46] Duuude-Ron :
You're right. What's the size of them?
[00:45:51] Rich Chelson:
See, I'm not a 100% sure yet on this one because it didn't say the finished size on the box.
[00:45:57] Duuude-Ron :
So Really?
[00:45:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I don't know if it's a 8 by 10 or a 11 by 14. I don't I don't think it's any bigger than an 11 by 14.
[00:46:10] Duuude-Ron :
For a 1,000 pieces, 11 by 14? Man, those pieces gotta be fucking small.
[00:46:17] Rich Chelson:
No. These are actually pretty big. I mean, this thing might be bigger. I don't know, dude. Like I said, I was I was I was looking on the box because I had seen on some puzzles, on the box, it'll tell you the finished size.
[00:46:32] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Exactly.
[00:46:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? But, Yeah. I couldn't find the finished size, so I guess okay. Well, I'm gonna put it together, and I'll figure it out that way.
[00:46:42] Duuude-Ron :
I bet I bet you it's a 24 by 36 for a 1000 pieces. Yeah. It'd very much be probably I bet you it's probably about a 20
[00:46:52] Rich Chelson:
or 20 by 30 or something like that. Right. Which which yeah. That yeah. That'd be fine. That's that's a good size too. Yeah. And and, something else I learned today. Remember how how back in the day, seeing 8 by 10 was that was the size to have. Right?
[00:47:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:47:13] Rich Chelson:
Now it now it's not now. The, most common size now is 11 by 14.
[00:47:20] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Yep. Oh, I yeah.
[00:47:26] Rich Chelson:
11 by 14 is is the most common size. Yeah. So Okay. Yeah. I was I was I was actually I was actually kinda shocked that because, shit, I remember growing up. Man, it it I was thinking, 50 by 10 was was yeah. You was in the in in the cotton there.
[00:47:49] Duuude-Ron :
No kidding. Same way with televisions for that matter. You know, if you had a 27 inch television, that was big shit.
[00:47:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god, dude. You were fucking rich.
[00:48:00] Duuude-Ron :
It yeah. And now a 27 inch television? You fucking did. Hell, I got a 50 inch television.
[00:48:11] Rich Chelson:
Right. And and and the thing is, 5th, well, 30 twos are going for, like, 70, $80. Forties are going for, like, right at a 100. Fifties are going just a little over a 100. You know? So yeah. Hey. Yeah. It's crazy how how you know? I mean,
[00:48:36] Duuude-Ron :
well Yeah. Now they're up to fucking 80, 90. Yeah. A 100 inches.
[00:48:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, I think I think once you hit 85 after that, I think you have to go to a projector.
[00:48:50] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:48:52] Rich Chelson:
Which which I mean, they've got 4 k projectors, dude.
[00:48:58] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. But it all depends on how the wall is. Right. You know? It's yeah. I and pictures in general. You know? Okay. 10:40. You know? What what all the other k is is like, you know, I don't know what my television is, but, you know, it views just fine. You know, I get all the RGB colors. You you know?
[00:49:30] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see with the 4 k versus the 10 80 p and stuff, say up. Say a 10 80 p is good quality. Okay? But when you step up into 4 k, QLED, QNED, all those, all these higher resolutions, people, you will notice a difference. It'll be not 3 d, but it'll be like, the people just are freaking so real. You can almost touch them. That's the difference between 10 80p and, 4 k resolution.
[00:50:13] Duuude-Ron :
Thing. And see, I don't know what I don't know what my TV is. You know, it's I've had it now for fucking it's a VIZIO, so that tells you my budget.
[00:50:24] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, no. It's it's a good brand, dude.
[00:50:28] Duuude-Ron :
This is a brand. I mean, I've I've And I've we've had it now for freaking
[00:50:34] Rich Chelson:
12 years, some shit like that. It's Oh, yeah. Yeah. 1080p is high. It still will do. Because Oh, okay. They, they, they didn't have, 4 k then.
[00:50:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. But And you know what? It just used just fine. As long as I don't throw the fucking remote at it and, you know, crack the fucking screen, you know, I'm I'm I'm
[00:51:00] Rich Chelson:
fine. Right. Right. But yeah. No. And that's you see, that's the thing. It's it I'd say a 4 k TV just, basically makes it look more lifelike, like you're there, whether it's a movie or a TV show or baseball game, football game, whatever.
[00:51:22] Duuude-Ron :
I would fucking rather be there than here. That's for damn sure.
[00:51:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, the thing is also with the newer TVs, if, if your if your phone does it, you could take a video on your phone and cast it to your TV.
[00:51:49] Duuude-Ron :
And that is absolutely great. I will probably never do that. Right. Just because I can watch it on my phone and you know? But I don't do a lot of videos just like I don't hardly do any pictures of me.
[00:52:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, see, that's like that's like with these pictures that I have on my phone, that I took with my camera. I had downloaded the pictures to my phone, and I tied my phone to my TV. And I brought the pictures up on the TV. Yeah. I can see them pictures a whole lot better.
[00:52:33] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah.
[00:52:34] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. Well well, you know me too. I'm I'm I'm very anal about my pictures. They they have to look just right. I mean, I'm not as I'm not as hard as I used to be a couple years ago, but I'm still hard on my pictures, on myself, really.
[00:52:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, yeah, who's always who's gonna be your worst critic ever?
[00:53:00] Rich Chelson:
You or me? Yourself. Yeah. Yourself. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. No. It's but yeah. No. Like I said, I went to Hobby Lobby, and then I just went cruising fucking for a good hour, hour and a half. And then I, went to, another thrift store and killed about 45 minutes there, and then the, then I went to my, physical therapy appointment.
[00:53:31] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:53:33] Rich Chelson:
So and then and then I came home because I'm tired. I I ain't gonna lie. I am freaking exhausted today.
[00:53:44] Duuude-Ron :
I did quite a bit. Yeah. But
[00:53:50] Rich Chelson:
I'm not sure I'm not sure, what I'm gonna do tomorrow because, say tomorrow night is when they have the, the, Willie's Gassers,
[00:54:01] Duuude-Ron :
drag racing. You better fucking go to that.
[00:54:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I gotta yeah. I need to find out about tickets and everything for that.
[00:54:17] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I'm sure you could could go to the track and yeah. I'm sure you just go to the track and buy them. You know? But if you miss that, the next time I see you, I will kick you in a fucking dick for missing that. Right. Because you were because you were that stupid.
[00:54:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I it's yeah. I need to I need to actually I need to go there because that that'd be freaking awesome.
[00:54:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Hell, yeah. If I was there, I would fucking be at the gas or drags. Hell, yeah.
[00:55:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That because, it's not saying how much it is, and I know it costs to get in.
[00:55:09] Duuude-Ron :
I'll find out. Yeah. I'm sure it's probably 12, $15, something like that. Yeah. Probably so. But see, like like me, whenever if I have the funds available, you know, anytime the sprint cars come down to the heart of Texas Speedway up in Elmont, I will definitely be at the fucking sprint car races. That's for sure. Right. Now they have now they have their normal, you know, all the rest of the cars that they race every week. But, yeah, I go for the sprint cars. I don't know if you've ever been to a sprint car race. Uh-huh. Know what cars are?
[00:55:52] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know. I'm Okay. Yeah. I know what sprint cars are. I've I've never seen one.
[00:55:58] Duuude-Ron :
But, really? Yeah. Holy shit. Now that is some racing. Now because you have stock cars, you have the IMCA modifieds, you know, that's a frame, and then you put your paneling around the frame and so on like that. But the sprint cars, you know, you gotta the only thing you've got is a frame, a big block motor, 4 tires, a driver, and 2 wings. Them things will fucking scoot. And I mean, oh my God. Yes. I've seen them to where they are only 3 wheels on the ground all the way around the track because that's how much torque they're putting down on the track with those cars.
Right. Yeah. That and their alcohol. What is it? Alcohol, methane? Something like that mix. Oh, the smell of that? Man, that is excitement. Just like the just like the gassers, you will fucking find yourself with a lot of enjoyment going to that because that's something you thoroughly enjoy. Right. And, if you miss it, like I said, I will fucking and I find out that you miss it, I will kick you in a fucking dick. No. Because you would have been a dumbass. Right. Because you wanna go and see them.
[00:57:32] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, and, it's like like that. Say say, I don't know if you saw that root beer colored gasser that I, put in the chat last night when we talked.
[00:57:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. He's yeah. Wait. Yep. Do me a favor and put it in Do me a favor and put that in the chat again because I don't remember seeing that the gasser.
[00:57:57] Rich Chelson:
Alright. Hang on a second. Okay. Give me just a bit. Yeah. No. Because, yeah, this old boy come come rolling in, and I I just freaking freaking heard him. And I knew he was he was, I mean, dude was ready. And then and then and then then I got up close by his car and looked at the motor in the car, and I'm like, that motherfucker's here to race. I mean, it's I'm not sure I'm not sure what size motor he has, but he's blown. I do know that, too far back. No. No. No. No. No. I'm not. Oh, no. Hadn't gone far enough. There he is.
Yeah. This and this car is just let's see. K. Hang on here. So
[00:59:17] Duuude-Ron :
So what's what's one of the most outrageous, say, a rat rod that you've seen thus far at this event?
[00:59:29] Rich Chelson:
There's actually a couple. They've got some old pickup trucks, and and I need to check I need to check, Google Photos. Check the chat. There's there's the car. I'll let me bring the shot of the motor up.
[00:59:50] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. You didn't send that last night.
[00:59:57] Rich Chelson:
See, I thought I did.
[01:00:03] Duuude-Ron :
It's Oh, yeah. Was it did you ask him what he's running in the rear end if it's 12 or 15 by twelves or 15 by fifteens?
[01:00:13] Rich Chelson:
No. I didn't I didn't, get to talk to him because there was, there was I mean, there was people coming up talking to him, and and my my legs were hurting so freaking bad. There's there's a side shot of his motor that he's running. Might be a 383 that's in there or something. I'm not sure, but, yeah, he's blown.
[01:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
Running through Oh, yeah. That's a running 3 inch what?
[01:00:45] Rich Chelson:
Three inch headers.
[01:00:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:00:50] Rich Chelson:
With cutouts. Well, that's I mean, it's straight pipe, really.
[01:00:55] Duuude-Ron :
Well yeah. But did did you get to see it, running at all?
[01:01:00] Rich Chelson:
I heard him drive it in. Oh, yeah. Did you?
[01:01:03] Duuude-Ron :
Fuck. Yeah. That one's motherfucker?
[01:01:08] Rich Chelson:
It was it was loud enough. He was he was, he wasn't romping on it. So so he was, you know, he was loud, but he wasn't as loud as he could be.
[01:01:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I'm sure it's not I'm sure idling, he was sitting at probably about, what, 90 decibels, and if he kicked it on, he was sitting at about a 130. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Running 3 running 3 inch with a 44 inch collective. Yeah. And then he's want he's running a, 671 wheel blower. And I think I can't tell if those I can't tell if those are Demons, Edelbrox. Or Holly's? Yeah. I, I They look like they look like demons, and I had a demon 650 on my pickup truck. And you talk about sucking
[01:02:13] Bryan Goodwin:
gas? Oh my god. Now,
[01:02:19] Rich Chelson:
this one, yeah. He yeah. Yeah. Well, see, I'm not sure if those were demons because he's running 2 of them. I Yeah. Very well
[01:02:29] Duuude-Ron :
very well But see, the the if you look at the, the back of the carburetors, and it has the, the, fluid level windows Right. On the backs. That's what the demons had.
[01:02:47] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. But
[01:02:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. Bet you go through 6 fifties.
[01:02:54] Rich Chelson:
Very well could be. That a that a that a third picture I put in chat, That's not the most radical. I need I I need to be in the right lane when I get up to this area so I can get pictures of couple more trucks like that that are even more radical than that one is, but that one was just cool as shit. Yeah. Because it seems like whenever I go down there, I forget where these trucks are parked at normally. And so I I wind up. I'm in the wrong lane. And then by the time I get turned around,
[01:03:31] Bryan Goodwin:
squirrel,
[01:03:32] Rich Chelson:
I go off look at something else. Yeah. So, you know, it's it's like and then I see them, and it's like, fuck. It's like, damn it. So but yeah. I mean I mean, now the the first two pictures I sent, I took on Sunday, and this this one, I just I just post put in a chat was taken today. And, I mean Oh. These cars have been here. I mean, they're they're, they're still here. So but, yeah, it's just because there are just so many cars that you're not gonna see all of them no matter how hard you try.
[01:04:14] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. Now when you said that there's 8,800 plus registered.
[01:04:22] Rich Chelson:
Right. Participants.
[01:04:25] Duuude-Ron :
Right. For the to the event as as a whole. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would love to go down to Yale. I will definitely try try. Keyword, try.
[01:04:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, it'll be
[01:04:44] Duuude-Ron :
get down there next year.
[01:04:46] Rich Chelson:
Well, it'll be in October, dude. And it's it's a week long. So Well You'll come down for one day, 2 days, or all week. You know?
[01:04:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, I would come down for the whole fucking week.
[01:05:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, man. Yeah. You would oh, dude. You would just yeah. You would shit. I I mean, I do. I'm you know, I'm sitting here riding around with top off doors off, you know, got music going. I'm just sitting there just, like, trying not to drool all over these cars, you know, afraid you know, I gotta keep wiping my mouth because the wind's blowing, so I'm afraid it'll blow my drool on the car. God forbid. I can't afford one of them paint jobs.
[01:05:29] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, or blow drool steering wheel and then
[01:05:35] Rich Chelson:
What's that?
[01:05:37] Duuude-Ron :
You say you drool on the steering wheel, trolled the jeep because you got too much damn drool on the steering wheel.
[01:05:45] Rich Chelson:
Right. But yeah. I know. And they've got a, they've got a suit. A lot of them cars are for sale down there too, man.
[01:06:00] Duuude-Ron :
I just wanna I just wanna 29 through 31 Ford pickup truck. That's what I want.
[01:06:07] Rich Chelson:
You could probably find one for sale down here.
[01:06:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I'm sure I could I find them, you know, for sale all the time. There's only one slight problem with that.
[01:06:19] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:06:20] Duuude-Ron :
I got a I got a, wine man's taste and a instant coffee man's pocketbook. I can't afford a beer. You know? I can't afford, you know, spirits. Can't afford regular coffee, so it's fine man's, instant coffee budget.
[01:06:53] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:06:55] Duuude-Ron :
You know, like I said, maybe 1 year. I bet you Brian right now is so fucking pissed off.
[01:07:06] Rich Chelson:
Did he text you?
[01:07:08] Duuude-Ron :
No. He hasn't nothing.
[01:07:10] Rich Chelson:
I haven't gotten anything from him. Okay. Well, he's he, he, had to take a phone call. So Oh, okay. That's why that's why he dropped out. Oh. Yeah. I mean, he's either way, it's it's it's Oh. Not sure what it is, but, yeah, either way, it's, Yeah. He's he is, dealing with something. So yeah. But, yeah, other than that, I mean, it was it was it was actually a cool day today. I mean, the weather was just absolutely beautiful. It was, like, low eighties, low to mid eighties. Hell, right now it's saying it's 68.
[01:07:55] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? We are back up into the fucking mid to upper nineties.
[01:08:00] Rich Chelson:
No way, dude. Really? Yes way.
[01:08:03] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. We will be in the fucking upper nineties through the weekend. Mhmm. And this is already mid fucking October. Granted, I don't like the fucking cold. No. I fucking hate the cold. Yeah. I kinda like your view and the cold. Yeah. Yeah. We just don't fucking mix. But the older I fucking get, man, I tell you what, the fucking heat doesn't like me either. Goddamn. And then mid October in the fucking high nineties.
[01:08:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:08:43] Duuude-Ron :
If I wanted that, I'd go down to fucking Turks and Tay Tay or what is it? Turks and Caicos Island. If I want that fucking shit in, you know, October, November, December, I'll go down to the fucking Caribbean. Right. Right.
[01:08:58] Rich Chelson:
And now you see, that's the thing. This this summer down here, oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. You walked out. You didn't sweat. You fucking melted. I mean, as soon as you walked out, you fucking melted. Right? And and Yeah. But but I kept telling myself I ain't cold, so that's fine. I'll melt. And then and now, like, I think here in the next couple days, I think the low is supposed to be, like, 59, 58 or 59, and I'm like, yeah. I don't know about all that yet. You know, I'm not I'm not used to it. But, in the mornings, it's been, like, you know, in the mid sixties, mid to high sixties, which is nice. But I'm well, yeah, tomorrow morning or no. Saturday morning, the low is supposed to be 59.
But, you know, I'm thinking, yeah, I ain't going anywhere in the Jeep, not first thing in the morning. I would I would Well, that I I would freeze my gonads
[01:10:02] Duuude-Ron :
off. That would just You think?
[01:10:06] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I do. No. It's
[01:10:09] Duuude-Ron :
awfully goddamn. Them things would be awfully goddamn tiny. Now I have gone with doors. Now I don't rarely I rarely take my top off just because it's so fucking cumbersome to get that sum of each on and off by myself. But going doors off, yeah, and fucking 50 yeah. It's a it's a wee bit chilly. Yeah. When we went out to where the fuck do we go? Out to Utah, Moab. Uh-huh. Oh, what was it? Few years ago. There was a couple days that yeah. Because I like to wheel without the doors on so I can see a lot more of what the hell is going on around me with the fucking Jeep and what I'm what obstacle I'm fixing to get into. Yeah. I was like, pair of shorts then a pair of jeans.
A fucking, short sleeve shirt then a long sleeve shirt then my hoodie and then my fucking winter jacket.
[01:11:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:11:13] Duuude-Ron :
Because there was still there I can't remember the name of the trail, but it goes to this lookout point that it drops a 1000 feet at least straight down. There's no barriers. You drive up on this rock, and I don't remember like I said, I don't remember the name of the trail. But when we got up there in spring break, mid March, there was fucking still snow up there on that fucking trail.
[01:11:42] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't doubt it, dude. I don't doubt it. But So had to say that By getting there?
[01:11:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It was just a wee bit brisk.
[01:11:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Just yeah. Yeah. I got you. Just a
[01:11:55] Duuude-Ron :
just a little bit.
[01:11:57] Rich Chelson:
But oh, that that a lift I got for for the top of my Jeep?
[01:12:03] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:12:04] Rich Chelson:
Tell you what, that's the best $400 I have spent.
[01:12:09] Duuude-Ron :
I'm sure.
[01:12:10] Rich Chelson:
It it it makes things a whole lot easier and quicker. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I was once I once I got everything you know, once I got it figured out because it's it's actually made for a 4 door Jeep, and I've got to do it just a little differently to make it work for a 2 door, but it's, I mean, it's not hard. You know? It's just moving, you know, you know, you know, moving it around. But, yeah, I I can lift the top off, pull it right off, and I leave it suspended. And then I, when I wanna put it back on, I un unlock the wheels and I roll it back into place, pull the brake, and then lower it down right right on, and it sits. Right? I'm like, man, this is nice.
[01:13:07] Duuude-Ron :
Well, since you got a 2 door, you don't have Freedom Panels over your driver's seat and passenger's seat, do you?
[01:13:12] Rich Chelson:
Just driver's seat.
[01:13:15] Duuude-Ron :
You got Freedom Panel? Yes.
[01:13:18] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yeah. Wow. I've got yeah. I've got Freedom Panels, but but they're just over the driver's seat.
[01:13:29] Duuude-Ron :
Wow. I have never seen I have never seen that. But, of course, my TJ, when I had the hardtop on it, it was the whole top was 1 p. Yeah. Yeah. But and the 4 doors, you know, you got the freedom panels above the driver and pat front driver and passenger, you know, kinda like a big freaking sunroof. Now how often do I take those off? Rarely ever.
[01:13:55] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. And see and see that's yeah. See, this thing, you know, with 9 yeah. I pull, yeah, I pull the Freedom Panels off, and they're just I mean, they're small. Fair I mean, really small, really.
[01:14:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:14:09] Rich Chelson:
They're they're rectangle. I'd say, shit, 24 by 20,
[01:14:19] Duuude-Ron :
if that. Yeah. Okay. Uh-huh.
[01:14:22] Rich Chelson:
No. That's about right. But, yeah, I pulled it off and, and then pull the doors off and then 6 bolts. And Yep. Pop that hatch off, and it's out. It's gone. I'm dry I'm driving naked. I love it. Yeah.
[01:14:42] Duuude-Ron :
Shit. I have to to take my hardtop off, I gotta do 4, 5, 6, 12 volts.
[01:14:53] Rich Chelson:
Why 12?
[01:14:55] Duuude-Ron :
Because I have them also across. No. Do I? You sure? I don't remember.
[01:15:03] Rich Chelson:
Because Brett Brit's Jeep or a 2010, only had 6 like mine. 3 on each side.
[01:15:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Holding the back. Yeah. Yeah. I think I have bolts holding up the front that go into the fucking, roll cage.
[01:15:28] Rich Chelson:
You you should have those, big pins that that, come out of the freedom panels.
[01:15:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That might be it. I don't fucking remember. Like I said, I've only taken that top off. I've had it now for, what, 4 years? I've taken the hard top off once in the whole time of owning that Jeep. No. Yeah. Took it off once. And when I took it off, that is the first time that we ran no. I've taken it off twice. I'm sorry. When we the very first tiers Tiers event was up in birds. Yeah. I took it off then because we were told that the trails were so narrow because it wasn't Jeep trails. It was side by side in 4 wheeler trailers trail.
You know? So I'll be damned if I'm gonna fucking tear up a $3,035100 hardtop. Right. I don't fucking think so. And, and then I took it off one time when we were at, the very first time that we went to, Oklahoma. Yeah. K River. If I didn't know what the trails were gonna be like, those are the only two times my top has ever been off of my Jeep.
[01:16:56] Rich Chelson:
Wow. I did not know that.
[01:17:00] Duuude-Ron :
But, of course, I don't have and it's fucking hard for one person to take that fucking hardtop off if you don't have, like, what you bought. You know, trying to get that fucking hardtop off is that's motherfucking yeah. Hard as hell.
[01:17:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's yeah. It's heavy. Because a 4 door well, mine, say, mine weighs about a £160. The 4 doors is about the same, I guess, or maybe a little less because it's not as long. But still, either way, it's it's it's it's so freaking awkward and just there is there is no good place to balance it, to to get it even up there to start, you know, start it, you know, to get up them rails.
[01:17:57] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I would if I were you, I would add a couple of, points for tie down for tie downs.
[01:18:08] Rich Chelson:
For what?
[01:18:10] Duuude-Ron :
To, well, just strap it around the top to just secure it a little bit better.
[01:18:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, on the on the lift? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I can do that.
[01:18:26] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, it's never made, but Yeah. Just to add yourself a couple of secure down points.
[01:18:32] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, I could I could strap it right there to the lift itself. Yeah. You know, it's just I mean, it's just some you know, just in case the wind kicks up.
[01:18:43] Duuude-Ron :
Exactly. Or you hit a bump with that thing and the so just so the top doesn't fall off because even a 2 door chop is fucking $3,000. Right. Fucking cheap. That's for damn sure. And but is yours black, or is it color coordinated to the rest of the Jeep?
[01:19:02] Rich Chelson:
It's, black. Matte black.
[01:19:05] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Mine's color coded to the rest of the Jeep, same way with my Freedom Panels. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not no. I'm not gonna fucking bust that and have to spend $3,03500 for a new fucking hardtop. No. Thank you. The fucking payment alone are fucking killing me. But, you know, that's what I chose. Right. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. I only have, what, 8 more 8 or 9 more months, I think.
[01:19:40] Rich Chelson:
That's cool.
[01:19:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Hell, yeah.
[01:19:46] Rich Chelson:
That'll save you a few pennies.
[01:19:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. 800 plus. Right. But that's that's what I wanted to finance it at because so I could get it paid off sooner, but it's still fucking was $55100. Or Yeah. Yeah. 55,000. Excuse me.
[01:20:10] Rich Chelson:
Damn.
[01:20:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. 50,000 for the Jeep and then 5,000 for, you know, the the warranty and, you know, tax, title, and license, and all that other good shit. Yeah. 55,000. Damn. Yep. And then, of course, you know, then you add in another few thousand for the lift, the tires, the rims.
[01:20:33] Rich Chelson:
The axles and all that. Yeah.
[01:20:36] Duuude-Ron :
Well, thank goodness I have the Rubicon. So I already got 4 what do I have? 480 threes with the electric lockers, which I'm thankful that I have. Right. You know, so I don't ever have to I'll never have to invest in axles, because they're Dana 40 fours. Nice. So I'm already I'm already good there with 483 gearing in it. So I got the gearing that I want overall, and I'll never have to touch that. But hell, when I bent the freaking drag link and the, tie rod, that was fucking $1200 just in parts. Right. But they will never bend again.
If if something happens, I will break the fucking heim joint or I'll fucking bend or break a bracket. But those but the tie rod ain't gonna freaking bend. That is, like, it's freaking real thick walled steel for those.
[01:21:49] Rich Chelson:
That's the way to have it is, you know, especially with with, the way you, wheel.
[01:21:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The way I wheel. Yeah. Yes. The way I like the wheel. That is correct. Right.
[01:22:02] Rich Chelson:
Brian, are you good?
[01:22:04] Bryan Goodwin:
I am back, finally. Yeah. Sorry.
[01:22:07] Rich Chelson:
You're fine.
[01:22:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Just that. Yeah. Mother-in-law had, had questions about the, the relationship, debacle that has that has been ensuing since, since the end of July. So Oh, okay. So she was like she had some thought she had some thoughts and she was like she was wanting to throw those past me, and I was like, oh, you know, it's this, this, and this. And so, you know, it was just Yeah. Just a, just a a lot longer conversation than I thought. Because usually, she just asked a couple, 3 questions. I answer them. She was like, alright. Well, that's all I needed to know. Like,
[01:22:47] Duuude-Ron :
what?
[01:22:48] Rich Chelson:
And it's like, you know what? Any other night, I I would I would talk to you more, but I'm busy.
[01:22:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I'm so I'm I'm
[01:23:00] Rich Chelson:
Never yeah. It never fails. You know? And and that's the thing, you know, when you tell people I'm podcasting, they're like, And they just got done listening to whatever podcast they were listening to. And they're like, what? You're you're doing what? I'm a fucking podcaster. So What's that?
[01:23:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh my god. But now it was, just main reason why I took it norm I was kinda contemplating on not taking it, but at the same time, I was like, she never calls me unless it's something something that needs to be talked about. So Right. Yeah. And no. It's just it was something I could've actually waited till tomorrow. But, you know, it is what it is what it is, and it's good to talk to her. I know. I I'm one of those that actually likes my mother-in-law. She's she's an actually a cool lady. So
[01:23:53] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's good. That is that is really good.
[01:23:57] Bryan Goodwin:
So now so What? I got okay. Now February. For for those who who who are just listening, that's a needle pulling thread, actually, sewing. Those who weren't on the, on the the veteran call last night, which every Wednesday night, 7 o'clock, if you're a vet, we got veteran call. And, you're welcome. You just have to send me me, or or Rich a a an email. You can get a hold of me at, CircleCast. That's circle and a cast, as in, like, how goofy casts a fishing rod. Circle cast atgmail.comorrchelson, and that's [email protected].
And let them know let us know that you wanna be a part of the vet call, and, we'll, get you added in there. This is for veterans just to be able to sit around and hang out with veterans. Well, last night was a light a light night. We had a, had one of our, one of our esteemed well esteemed, vets come on and, give us an update about his life. But, he was, needing to go to bed early. So once he got finished going to bed, we had a very spirited debate about about, the the me and the business because right now, honestly, guys, when it comes to relaxed mail, I'm not producing much in the way of money. I'm wanting to produce more. But I have an, I had an an apostrophe today.
[01:25:32] Duuude-Ron :
You had an apostrophe?
[01:25:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I had an apostrophe today.
[01:25:37] Duuude-Ron :
Apoprophe. Not an not an epiphany, but an apostrophe.
[01:25:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. An apostrophe.
[01:25:44] Duuude-Ron :
Well, shit. Let's fucking hear your apostrophe.
[01:25:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, anyhow, okay. I'm still going I'm still working on the whole men's relationship, helping men to who want to have a better relationship. I'm still that is the main my main target. That's who I am still helping overall. But the fun thing is about and to everybody who's listening, I'll let you in on a little secret. The Yeah. Secret? Coaching All the coaching skills can be applied to any niche out there. Alright? Whether you're doing business coaching, whether you're doing personal coaching, you're just doing life coaching, you're doing relationship coaching, you're doing, you know, you know, underwater basket weaving coaching.
It's all uses the same skills. And the and the key part of that is the coach actually doesn't know the answers. And I know a lot of people going, what? Your mistake and a lot of people who think we're supposed to know all the answers, those are the people who assume coaching is consulting. And no, we don't have all the tools and and and strategies. You have all those. And that's what we actually coach on is we coach you through your mind. And coach, you just so that you change how you're looking at the world, how you're looking at whatever the circumstances. So what I actually was, today, I was riding along. And there's a podcast that always has some little nugget of just chef's kiss knowledge.
And it's a gal named Lindsey Dotzlaw. And today, she had an interview with, one of the coaches that she has in in her little program. And she was talk and her friend was talking about one of the things she actually had to do, and this is the moment that came along. This is what I believe was God knocking me on the shoulder going, do this. And not so much, you know, divine intervention, and, you know, beam came down, doves come flying, or anything like that. It's just, you know, one of those where, oh, okay. Hey, that's an idea. I struggle with finding men who wanna have, wanna have coaching.
But this lady actually set up a program where she did just basic life coaching as a benefit for other companies. And that's kinda where I'm like, oh, there you go. Why not start talking to different companies and seeing if they would be willing to bring on a coat as a for the for their employee benefits. Right. So the employees could come along and say, yeah. Alright. For, you know, for 3 months, we you get, you get a weekly 1 hour, coaching session, from me, and and, we you know, we'll go from go from there. And at the end of, at the end of the, the 3 months, you know, if you wanna keep going, alright, then, you know or maybe the, maybe the company says, oh, no. We're only doing 3 months at a time in a, in, say, like a, in a in a 180 day period? Or so you can,
[01:29:52] Rich Chelson:
you know, you can Well, you can start out with with the company,
[01:29:56] Bryan Goodwin:
you know, for the 3 months. Have the have the company pay for it if they will. Oh, no. That's that's that's And now what exactly what I was thinking. I was like, have them have them do you know, if a if a person wants to do it, alright, sweet, it's set a price, whatever
[01:30:15] Rich Chelson:
for, for 3 months. Yeah. And then and then after that, it could be up to the person to continue the coaching or, you know, if the company wanted to hire you again, they could, you know, for the same person. I mean But but yeah. But since it would be like a, like a,
[01:30:33] Bryan Goodwin:
since it would be a benefit, it could be. And Lexi's, my daughter's, company that she works for, the eye doctor, they actually allow her to do, to do I think it's 1 month of coaching Really? For free, once every and a and a I forget exactly what the set number of, set period is. Right. And so you can go she could go through. She's the and does can do the coaching, and she so, you know, there's that opportunity, and she's already burned through her through her month for the, for the set period, so she's having to wait for how long it is till the next one. But to to do something like that, that could at least, a, afford me the opportunity to start bringing in enough money that I can I could actually, not have to worry about jumping out of the, out of the truck?
[01:31:30] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:31:31] Bryan Goodwin:
And it would keep you out of the oil field. And it would keep me way the hell out of the damn oil field. Right.
[01:31:38] Rich Chelson:
And, plus, it would give you more experience, which is a good thing. Oh, yeah. It would give you it would give you experience with both men and women. Right. So, I mean, dude, honestly, I gotta say go for it. I I mean, I like it.
[01:31:55] Bryan Goodwin:
So how about you, Ron?
[01:31:59] Duuude-Ron :
What about me? I'm freaking handsome and lonely. But, anyway, what? What about me?
[01:32:10] Rich Chelson:
Ron was napping.
[01:32:12] Duuude-Ron :
Ron was napping. I was listening to every freaking word you're saying. Wait. Are you on my views?
[01:32:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. Yeah. What what what's your opinion on that thought?
[01:32:22] Duuude-Ron :
You know, that is and, you know, I don't know how because I don't take any benefits from my job because especially the health benefits. I I with retired military, I get all my health benefits and dental and all that other stuff, but I don't know what our company has. I know that they have, that I can get ahold of a crisis counselor Right. If I need it. They do have avenues like that. But to have a life, Coach. Counselor, you know, I don't know if we even have those with my company because it as big as it is, you know, it's throughout the whole United States.
Right. But we're split up into 11 divisions. And but, you know, I don't know if we have that, but that yeah. That would definitely be an avenue, and I know that it would take a lot of, tenacity on your part to be able to get some companies to where you could do that with. Right. You know? And like I said, I don't know how what the legal aspect is, what kind of paperwork you'd have to sign for contracts and all that other stuff To be able to do that, I, you know, I just don't know. Are you willing to put I know you're willing to put in the time. Oh, yeah. You know, I again, yeah. Versus trying to get the individual versus, you know, going after a company and saying, okay. This is what we have if anybody wants to take advantage of that particular benefit.
Right. Now would you get an on call pricing type thing? Yeah. I have no idea.
[01:34:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, and kinda what I was thinking of doing was was, you know, offering a, you know, it's a set number a set amount for, for each, for each client that, that side or each employee that side they wanted to go through and do the coaching process. Right. And, have that, have that, but also go on ahead. I I'm still trying to decide, do we do a a retainer upfront? I would it's kinda what I'm thinking of, you know, and this is all just stuff that I well, today. I mean, it was my mind went kicked into gear at the moment that I heard that, so I hit, hit pause on the, on the podcast. And for the next 5 hours, this is all that I was thinking of. It was just like, okay. Well, we could do it like this. We could do it like this. You know, do we do we charge beforehand? Do you know, do we do a do kind of a, like, a retainer fee?
And then it's per Yeah. Per client and and stuff. And I mean, and these are all things that doesn't matter right now. None of that is actually important right now. Right. Right. Because the whole tech building. Because the first thing I've gotta do, and this is where I'm wanting y'all to come in, is I need to start talking to businesses.
[01:36:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, come Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, Brian. Let me jump in here real quick. Okay? K. Okay. And and I'm not saying no. Don't don't talk to businesses, but but what what is, like, screaming in my head at me right now, get your message set first. You know, what what you wanna say to the businesses to to, to get them to invest in you. Right. Okay? That's that's the first thing you need to do. Get that down or at least as close as possible, and then go talk to businesses.
[01:36:51] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Because that's Right. No. I I get you there. Because what was what was the big what was the biggest aspect of the argument last night?
[01:37:00] Bryan Goodwin:
The main one that, that we were, talking about was was who am I targeting?
[01:37:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And and what and what the other one was is what is your worth for your skill set? Right. Yeah. You know, you said you you were putting yourself pretty low on the bottom of the totem pole, you know, as far as what you had to offer for your skill set, which is incorrect. Now Right. In theory, the bottom of the totem pole I don't know if you guys know this and you probably do. Actually, the bottom of the totem pole is has the most wealth. Not the top of the totem pole where everybody thinks, you know, the higher you are, the the the and all that other stuff. Actually, it's the bottom of the totem pole.
[01:38:09] Bryan Goodwin:
So I I see. I didn't realize that totem pole was actually upside down.
[01:38:15] Duuude-Ron :
I didn't know that. The highest value yeah. The highest value when I didn't know that yeah. I just found that out couple years ago. Somebody was telling me about that that the higher value is not at the top of the totem pole. It's at the base. Well, And, you know, I thought all my life that, you know, the top of the totem pole, you have the way you know, the eagle's wings and all that other stuff. You know, if you get to the top of the totem pole, obviously, that's where you wanna be. No? Right. Nope. No love. The truth.
[01:39:00] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, it's That is intriguing.
[01:39:05] Duuude-Ron :
But, yeah, to know what you want to offer specifically, yeah, what you wanna offer Right. Is probably the biggest thing that you get to concentrate on.
[01:39:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And that that's kinda I did sorta kinda think of that because I was like, alright. Do do we am I gonna be doing, you know, am I doing, c suite coaching where I'm bringing, you know, the the corporate executives? Am I coaching for them? Am I coaching just a small business owner for, to improve their business. And those aren't and I kind of was I can. I mean, like I said before, I mean, the the secret to to life coaching is that the life coaching skills can be applied to anything and to any niche. You know, the what you bring into an extra is your knowledge and expertise of a particular, of a particular niche.
But you still use just you know, you still use the the basic life coachings, tools and and skills for any of them because it's all about how how your how your mind is working on whatever the circumstance is. So to, so if I'm doing benefits for employees, then I would say, I would have to say it'd be, just regular life coaching. Yeah. Because it'll be whatever they whatever the the the employee wants work on. You know, if the employee wants to go, hey. I'm I wanna become, you know, middle management. Alright. Well, boom. We can work towards that because they know what they need to do in their particular particular circumstance to get to middle management.
And if they don't, they know how to actually find it. It's just what type of bullshit are they telling themselves that's keeping them playing in the in the, in the in mail route.
[01:41:28] Rich Chelson:
Well, let okay. Okay. Okay. Let me ask you this. So what if what if the company wants to, offer some some areas that that they would like, employees improved on.
[01:41:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Maybe I'm saying that right. Well, I mean, if it's something if they're wanting their employees to be coached on a particular deal, I mean, that's fine. I mean, if that's what the if that's what the client wants. So if it if I was to be hired on for, say, oh, in Emerald, there's a bank called Bank of the Southwest. Alright? K. So I talked to them. They're like, yeah, we want our, want our clients or our our employees to be coached on a better means of banking. What? I mean, I I I've never worked in a bank so I don't have have a clue. But still, to upgrade their level of banking. Alright. I mean, if is that if the if I come up to a to an employee and we're supposed to sit down and talk, and the employee thinks, well, I don't have anything to work with. I'm not doing my banking correctly.
Well, I mean, one, I could always call bullshit because you can always get a little bit better. Right. And but but But at the same time, if they're not willing to be if they're not willing to be coached, it's not gonna do isn't I could you know, you can lead a horse to water type of scenario.
[01:43:09] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But but you see, the thing is, the bank, the or or the company, okay, I would think would would at least would at least maybe wanna give you an outline as to what what they would like to see improved on, what what what they would like to see the, the, the, employee improved on so you could actually work with them.
[01:43:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, and what I would probably do with that, if say say I had a company that said that, I would actually probable more likely direct them over to well, let's get your your, your managers into the process, being able to to work these employees into where they're at a where they're at a place that so they will become better because the employ the the managers, if anything, are going to know
[01:44:15] Duuude-Ron :
what
[01:44:17] Bryan Goodwin:
the employees are lacking.
[01:44:19] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:44:21] Bryan Goodwin:
So that would, for that, I would probably say that'd be the better, better direction to go. It's like, alright. But We can we can help we can help in that department by doing it this way, by helping talking to your talking to your managers, getting your managers' thoughts about employees shifted so then now they're actually helping move move people to, to up to up the ladder instead of just, you know, kinda nitpicking going, well, this guy's okay. This guy's not worth shit, and they'd be up whatever whatever. Get the good boys club's going up and and the, and the the the unwatched masses stay down in the, stay stay down in the mailroom again.
[01:45:03] Rich Chelson:
Right. But you see, that's where you see, that's where you see, every company is gonna be different and Oh, yeah. You know, each one will, you know, you know, each one will have their own thing, and that's why that's why I was saying, you know, work on, you know, how you're gonna sell Brian Goodwin to these companies.
[01:45:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, best way then one of the things that I was thinking of on that would be the kind of the almost the pitch that I would say would have is something in the neighborhood of, if you want employees who are more content, more willing to actually work for you to have less turnover, more enthusiasm with what they're doing, then you actually want them to be coached on whatever it is they wanna work on. Because when they get go through and see that they're they can they can manage their mind on what they wanna be work what they wanna work on, they can take those same skills and apply it into into normal work.
Because eventually, they're gonna go, hey. We're we need to have, you know, we need to have the, I know I realized that I've gotta be able to take my, these skills and apply it into the actual business.
[01:46:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. Hold on. Hold on. Let me let me play devil's advocate here for a second. Okay? Oh god.
[01:46:34] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Because because Can't you let me dream already?
[01:46:37] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Dream all you want, buddy. But but you see, that's the thing. That's the thing. I mean, you've been doing this so long, and and I know you're close. And and you're just, like, right freaking there. I can see it. You can see it. And it's like, damn it. How how do we get Brian over this edge? But but you see with, with the what you just said, what if this company comes back and say, have you ever done this before? Do you have proof of what you're trying to sell us? What does it say?
[01:47:14] Bryan Goodwin:
I say yes.
[01:47:15] Rich Chelson:
Okay. How?
[01:47:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I've got recordings, and I'll just have to get permission from the, from the clients, that I have got recordings for that I use for review if they would buy and if I was to use this as a portfolio.
[01:47:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, honestly, if if now this is my opinion, but I'd go ahead and jump the gun and just ask for their opinion, you know, to say, hey. I might or might not use it in the future. Is it okay? Do I have your opinion? And it would be
[01:47:49] Bryan Goodwin:
it would still be edited enough where there would be a un identifying name on any of it. Just be like client 1 and Right. Right. I I would go through it personally edit. I would say client 1. You know, you done went off and screwed up. Client won. So
[01:48:08] Rich Chelson:
No. No. And as you see, that's fine. That's there's there's nothing wrong with that. But but you see, that's the thing. This you know, this is why I said I wanted to play devil's advocate for a second. Right. Is because, I mean, companies, someone in the company, whichever company, will come up with that. Maybe not the first company, the second company, but that third company would be like, I approve it, bitch. You know? You'd be like, damn, bitch. You know? And who knows that that there might be your $50,000 company.
[01:48:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. That that might be the $50,000 company. And, actually, the biggest one that a lot of people are gonna actually ask, and if there's ever a big question that will be a hurdle for me to actually overcome and to convince them that it's actually not needed, are those that go off and say, do you have any psychology degree? And to be able to tell them, this is coaching. We're not counseling. Right. 2 different things and have to educate the the the the HR department that I'm not with counseling. I don't do the counseling. I don't do consulting. You know? That's because those are what everybody thinks of when they hear coaching. They just think it's just a new word for for a counselor or a, or a consultant, and it's I'm neither one. We're coaching. We go because counselors go from the present and work back and come to the find the find the point where people are struggling. Look at where the struggle's at. And not to mention, god bless the counselors for doing what they what they do. But at the same time, the regulations for counseling are so freaking screwed up that nobody can really do anything. All they can do is especially if you're just kind of a general counselor, if you're not certified in, like, EFT, emotionally focused, therapy, or, oh, what's the what's another one?
That's the one that, Tony Overbay is always talking about is EFT.
[01:50:27] Duuude-Ron :
Child child psychology?
[01:50:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Not it's not so much child psychology. It's, but there's, where you're actually focusing more on EFT is where you're more focusing on the, on the fact that you're going to have emotions. And so to, to to accept and acknowledge the emotion that you have. And it's not what I go what I, teach people. I actually if there's anything that I'm close to doing, it is what is the, name? Acceptance and commitment therapy, ACT, is the closest to any type of quote, unquote therapy that I do from my from what I've heard people talk about is that because you accept what your circumstances are.
And so a lot of people will stress about the fact that, well, I've gotta go I've gotta go and see my, see my parents, and my parents are just these overly judgmental people, and and they make me feel bad all the time. Well, you got just, gotta accept the fact that your parents are probably gonna ask you weird questions from time to time because they, they that's just how they are. And there's, there like I said, there's a there's a bunch of different, tools and and and stuff that ACT, therapists are able to use for people to use except commitment therapy. Now the difference between me is that we're looking at what the mind's doing right now.
Right. We're looking at, okay, why are you not making the steps that you need to make to achieve whatever your goal is? Well, because I don't have time. Do you really not have time? Or are you just saying you don't have time? And usually, you tell you needle around that that whole question for the for the next 45 minutes till they go, well, no. I just really find other things to do. Okay. So what do you do when you feel like you need to do something? Why not accept that you're going to feel weird and see that there's where the acceptance commitment therapy kinda intersect.
Because accept the fact that you're going to feel like a fish out of water while you're doing this new task. Because this is the first time you've ever done the task. You don't know what to do, what all what all entails. So you're just gonna have to be okay with the fact that you're gonna do this messy. And so you go through and you do this as as it is. And when you can and so I am working with people from the present, push and getting them to go into the future while therapists and counselors start from the the present and work their way back. And then you have like I said, then you have your your, not not counselors, but not counselors.
Not counselors. Not, consultants. That's there's that other c word. And then you have the consultants, and their whole deal is, well, I have done it this way my whole life. Here's what I you do to get this done this way. And, well, the problem with that is that, yeah, that works for that person because you have the mindset that allows that to work. Somebody new? I mean, hell, I'm a good example. You listen to a lot of people. They're going, yeah. Well, they just use use Facebook ads and you just put up an ad and, you you run, put $25 behind it and you do another ad and put another $25 behind it. And you make it just slightly different and you see which one does better. And then from there, you take the take the worst performing one, you take it down, you put a new one up, and you run $25 add on it. And you do that in back and forth until you get get the, till you get all the, all the clients you want.
Okay? Except for the fact that every time I have ever done Facebook ads, I get no bites. Right. I will have people go to my site, but when it and they'll go to that landing page. They'll go to that landing page and then they just they they evaporate. No one fills out the form. No one hits send. And it's like and I've I've had the every time I do it, I have the thought of, well, maybe my my my order form's not working right. So I'll go in there. Oh, hey. Look at that. Everything worked like it's supposed to. So no. And it's the thought that I have, that whole value thing that we were talking about last night. It's the thought that I'm that I have where I'm not bringing the order home. I'm not bringing there's something in the way that I write the copy that is not enticing people to for them to see that I am selling selling a Mercedes, a brand new Mercedes for $50.
Right. Yeah. It's it's You know, I've to them, I'm selling a a totaled out hunk of metal. Right. For 5,000.
[01:55:57] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. No. And see this you see that's the thing. It's just, you know, listening to you. I mean I mean, as much as I hate to say it, it it sounds like it's somewhere in your copy, as to why as as to why people aren't and you see, that's the thing. I can't write copy. You know? I mean, I I'm I'm I'm not good at it for some reason. But so, I mean, I don't know. You know, I wouldn't know I wouldn't even know where to begin to, you know, help you, you know.
[01:56:31] Bryan Goodwin:
If we have anybody who is good at copy and wants to, wants to help me out, I will, I'll I'll give you give you 25% of whatever, whatever the take home is.
[01:56:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wow. 25% folks, that is circle cast atgmail.com or r Chelsea@gmail, and I'll forward it to him. So You get 25% of the of the take home on that copy. I mean, come on now. Where are you where where are some of you copywriters?
[01:57:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's funny thing is is, I mean, I'd love to get into the point where I'm doing getting the Jeff Walker thing going. Because Right. If the Jeff Walker if you're if you do it right, you know, you can you can bring in 1,000,000 of dollars with just a single launch. But the the and the thing about the about the launch is, it's not just your launch that you're doing. You're actually because what he actually he calls them JV. What, the j you wanna do, JV marketing. But it's, oh, shit. What's this what's the JV stand for? It's not junior varsity, but it's, Joint venture. Joint venture. Thank you. Yes. That's it. Exactly. As you use joint venture, selling. And so you have all the other people in your group who want to be a part of this. They actually make their own copy of what your copy is and sell to the sell to their groups, their their mailing lists.
And they actually a lot of times, the people will actually have a 50%. Yeah. 50%, commission on what the sale is. Yep. And so that's what I'd love to be able to get to as we're now.
[01:58:31] Rich Chelson:
Now I can't remember, and I haven't seen no email in the last couple years, but, I would I gotta look it up because, I did a joint venture webinar. It was, like, 2 or 3 days long. It was a Zoom webinar, and, it was only $47. And, it was it was, but I did the whole thing, and I'll tell you what. I met a lot of people,
[01:59:01] Bryan Goodwin:
all across. Oh, is that the thing? Is that the one that you did with, with, Eric k Johnson? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. I I know what to talk about. Yeah. And and I I I mean, there was
[01:59:13] Rich Chelson:
I'm I'm gonna tell you what. There's some people that that, their, their niche programs, they were kinda out there. That's
[01:59:27] Bryan Goodwin:
that's There are some.
[01:59:29] Rich Chelson:
Yes. There And I mean, there's I mean, very nice people. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was yeah. There was code there was the, the gamut. I mean, it wasn't just one little, thing. You know? It was it was the range of businesses was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. There was coaches. There was
[01:59:52] Bryan Goodwin:
therapists. There was all kinds of stuff. Well, and that's it. And I I I get I struggle struggled a good bit with, actually listening to the to the podcast episode that gave me the inspiration for the, for the, the benefit the doing employee benefits coaching. And that's because the gal who the who Lindsay was talking to marketed herself as a, how does she for I forget exactly what it was, but as essentially, it worked around to where she was coaching people who are neurodivergent in in doing something. And I'm sorry. I don't buy the whole neurodivergent phraseology.
[02:00:40] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Now I don't know if if the people that listen to our podcast is smarter or or about the same as as our way of thinking, but you're gonna have to explain that neurodivergent stuff. I I've never heard of it.
[02:00:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Neurodivergent is basically, it is a line of belief. People's and they they're they're throwing everything they can into what neurodivergence is. But you have you have people like, Rain Man, autism. Like, people who are autistic, that equals out to also including Asperger syndrome, but also they have started lumping ADHD into neuro, divergence. And what they're basically saying is that you don't think like normal people. That and they call the the normal people, they call them neurotypical.
[02:01:47] Rich Chelson:
Alright? Well, I'm neurodivergent
[02:01:48] Bryan Goodwin:
because I don't think like normal people. Well And I'm not actually big guys my point precisely. It's like, what is normal? Nick, exactly. Normal. I'd I know you don't think like I do. I don't think like Ron does. Ron doesn't think like either one of us. And Right. You know, and Ron doesn't think like anybody in there at the where he works at. Nobody who I work with thinks the same way that I do. We're all everybody around is neurodivergent. Neurotypical is, you know, something else. And and one of the things that keeps getting me on that is the sole facts of, like, there's a there's a freaking Facebook ad that just, I I I make a snarky remark every time I see it. But it's, there's a a guy who's essentially making an excuse for bad behavior and saying that it's because of ADHD.
Oh, it's bullshit. Sexual deviance is because of ADHD. It's like bullshit. The sexual deviance is because you can't control where you wanna put your damn pecker. Alright? No. No. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Change those words. Because you can control it. You don't want to control it. No. Exactly. You don't wanna control it because you you claim you can't.
[02:03:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's bullshit. You you can do anything you put your fucking mind to, and that's that's proven. That's guaranteed. That's that's been for the beginning of time. You can do anything you want. You choose not to do it.
[02:03:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Because anybody who claims I can't help it, I have to do it. Bullshit. Under the under the threat that you would have your dangling and and, your heavier wedding tech sitting on a chopping block, and somebody with a very dull spoon is going to take it off, I bet you would go, yeah. No. I can I can I can withstand from doing that? Yeah. I I I I'll admit. I'm one who enjoys a good dolphin vlogging. But if that was under the underneath the, the auspices that I may end up having severe suffer severe pain if somebody digs my root out by a spoon by a rusty spoon. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. I'll just walk around with a permagrin with a pearl wood because, yeah, I ain't touching it.
[02:04:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. No. I I just but you see, that's where you see, that's where, see, this is and and the company that your daughter works for hired this lady?
[02:04:26] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Or or No. This is, this is the that was on the that was on the on the podcast that I I, I was listening that gave me the inspiration to do the to maybe go to to go down the path of offering my services as an employee benefit.
[02:04:47] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Well, that's that's that's actually kinda cool that that out of that craziness because I probably wouldn't have lasted 30 seconds, let alone thought that far to, you know, come up with the idea you did.
[02:05:05] Bryan Goodwin:
So so my hats off to you for sticking it out. Oh, there's a lot of them that I mean, the other one that always gets me are the are the, the women coaches, and it's always women coaches. So if woman's woman's, it's proper language, isn't it? That's proper use of the word, isn't it? Woman's. Women, if y'all are listening to this, sorry, but you are not empathetic. Or you're not you're not an empath. Sorry. You may be empathetic, but you're not an empath. Alright? You cannot feel what that other person is feeling. No. You're feeling your ex what you're what you believe the feeling is, but you're not feeling that person's pain. You're not feeling that person's sorrow. You're not feeling that person's anger.
Alright? And there are people who love to go around. And I I'm an empath, and I I coach women on on on such such so and so. I was like, no. You're not a fucking empath. Yeah. You're no more an empath than I am, than I can read minds. And guess what? I can't. Half the time, my mind's blank, so I know no one's reading mine.
[02:06:21] Rich Chelson:
Right. But yeah. No. No. You're saying that's people that say and you see, that's the thing now. You see, these people make money like this because they found something that that freaking people are just That attracts people. Yeah. Yeah. And and, I mean, it's it's a lie. It's false, But they make it sound good, have it packaged all nice with a pretty little bow, charge $5,000, and next thing you know, they're making money.
[02:06:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And but there's also a part of me that with you just saying that is but is if it's helping the client to get to the point that they're wanting to go, is it really bad?
[02:07:08] Rich Chelson:
Holy.
[02:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Which is, which is, again, just sends my mind down a weird rabbit hole. You know? All of a sudden, I'm going around in circles. I'm like, well, yeah. It's kinda it's not a good but, well, you know, but it helps them out. The purse the client, it got to the goal that they're wanting.
[02:07:27] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but okay. What if what if 6 months a year down the road, their world goes to shit? Who are they gonna blame themselves? Hell no. Well, if they if they've been taught
[02:07:38] Bryan Goodwin:
their the coaching skills properly, they'll know how to utilize those coaching skills. And that's one of the key things that you wanna wanna do is you're teaching like for me, I'm teaching the skills of self coaching. You should be, by the time we get done doing our coaching sessions, be able to at least coach yourself through a particular circumstance.
[02:08:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. This is true. But
[02:08:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Now are is that gonna work all the time? No. It's so there's gonna be a lot of times you're just stuck in your head and you're going down panic mode. You're just like, holy shit. My life is terrible. Right. No. It's not terrible. It's just really shitty right now.
[02:08:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:08:23] Bryan Goodwin:
You're not going to die. You're just you're just go I mean, it's kinda like whenever I was me and the wife the wife said, yeah, you're gonna have to go into the go back to the oil field. That sink in my heart was the holy fucking shit. I don't wanna do this type of thought.
[02:08:40] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. I know. And and he'd see, the thing is, Brian, the, now now that for you, I can feel that pain because I remember, when I was married to my second wife, I was off the road, and and I was doing everything I could to stay off the road and be home. Right? Right. And, things just I mean, I was running local. You know, I was home every night, but I was running local. And, I wasn't making any money, and and, you know, my wife is like, you know, honey, we need money. I said, honey, I know only one way to get it. And, we had talked about it, and, I mean, I was so upset.
I freaking broke down crying because I had told her that, no, I wasn't gonna go back on the road because, you know, I wanted to stay home and have a real marriage. Yeah. And but I wound up going back on the road. Oh, yeah. Money was great. Lasted about a year and a half, and I was divorced. Yeah. So, I mean, so so so so I could feel your pain that, you know, if you want to go or not wanting to, but, you know, of of y'all's discus, discussion about going into the oil field. Right. You know, I I can I can fully, I guess, to use the word Comprehend?
Yeah. Well yeah. Yeah. Comprehend, you know, the feelings and everything that you have because it was like, fuck no. It's like, no. I'm I don't wanna do it. But Yep.
[02:10:30] Bryan Goodwin:
But, I mean, once we had that discussion, it was a good 4 days of me coaching myself while I was driving down the road. How do I get around to accepting the fact that I may have to be back in the oil field? And there's times I could get there, and I would be alright. I found something I can accept. I'm I'm okay. And then 4 or 5 of, you know, 4 or 5 hours later later on that evening or the following morning, boom. I'm right back in the same fucking hole of of despair and pain and suffering. I'm going, son of a bitch. What am I gonna do here? Right. And then and it got to the point where it's like, alright.
I've got a plan. If I have to go back into the oil field, at least I now know what I'm gonna need to do. Right. I now know that I've got a a plan of how I'm going to amass the money. I know that I'm probably gonna have to spend at the minimum 5 years in oil field, which is just going to be bleh, but it's something that I can I can swallow? Mhmm. It's it's gonna taste like shit, and I'm gonna have to just grin and bear it, but I can do it.
[02:11:45] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[02:11:47] Bryan Goodwin:
And knowing that once I get to that other point, I have 2 more years of just pushing like a fucking son of a bitch. Pushing with everything I have. Anybody who wants to get in my way and say, no. I think you're doing this wrong. I would just give the I will just drop my my trials, bend over, show them my asshole and say, kiss it. Right. I'm doing this. I'm doing it my way. Sorry you don't like it. That's not my fault. Build a bridge. Get the fuck over it. I'm doing this. I've got 2 years and I will find a way. I will climb over hell on my hands and knees through broken glass to make sure that I get this done.
So I making sure that I had that determination. Make sure I had that that that grit that I'm going to need to be able to do that. Right. And then on top of that, it's like, okay. Well, what are you how are you gonna do that in that current 5 years? What are you gonna do? And the answer is, hey. It's root beer barrels. It's carnival, crew just pulls through. I think I got root beer barrels. Yeah. What are the riots? That's cool. Squirrel. Squirrel. I tell you, I haven't seen root beer barrels carnival ride in years. So that was just cool that I I'm I'm afraid to find out. I wonder if they're going up to Hugo because I'm just a couple miles away from Hugo, and Hugo is, is, is Circus USA.
[02:13:12] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, okay.
[02:13:13] Bryan Goodwin:
So I wonder if that's what they're doing. Anyhow, so but one of the things that I've had to do is also make a game plan, knowing that first off, I'm gonna be off 12 hour. Take away the fact that I have to sleep for 8. I will give myself 8 hours. Right now, whenever I get finished trucking, I have at least 2 hours that I can fart around with. And, actually, I take up more than that because I go to bed at 10. If I go to bed at 10, I can wake up at 6 and be beautiful. Right. If I go to bed at, at 9 and I wake up at 5, my ass is dragging. If I get up at anything before 6, I'm just dragging balls all day long. Just something about something about that ungodly hour of anything anything before 559.
So and I know that about myself. I am I've and I could tell you stories about whenever I would get up in the, in the morning to go, my stepmom would get me up so that we could go throw newspapers because she had, pulled in a newspaper route to make a little extra money. And, anytime I was home for college, it never fucking failed. She would wake my ass up and tell me to and have me help her fold the newspapers and and all that. And I was like, goddamn. No. I don't wanna I'm fucking sleeping here, man. It's 3 o'clock in the morning in the wintertime.
It's 15 degrees below, or 15 degrees outside. It's fucking cold, man. And it it never failed. I still had to sit there and bold them and chunk and drive all the way through town with the window down, chucking freaking chucking, newspapers. And it was cold enough to where the air could or the heater did not work. So
[02:15:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's yeah. That's that's that's actually kinda rough.
[02:15:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's you gotta be bundled up. I look like I look like Randy off of, off the the Christmas story, you know, goodbye. You know? So Yeah. I laid there like a slug. It was my only defense.
[02:15:21] Rich Chelson:
So You know you know, it's funny, Les. It seems like the last week and a half, I've noticed something. No matter what time I go to bed, I mean, I try and stay up, you know, past 9 or 10. Uh-huh. Because it I'm I'm not sure if it's something medically wrong. The docs, like, trying to schedule tests and stuff like that, to find out why I'm so freaking tired. But, it seems like I'm up every morning between 5:30 and 6. Okay. Yeah. And and and that's the thing. I don't I don't set a clock.
[02:16:09] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You got you got yourself you got your your internal clock programmed for that time.
[02:16:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, now you see because because that thing up north, sometimes I could sleep till 7 or 8. But Yeah. And and, like, down here, you know, after I got moved in and stuff like that, you know, I can sleep till 7, 7:30. You know, I'd be fine with that, but it just seems like it just seems like for some reason, it's like, no matter what, I just wake up, and it doesn't matter if I went to bed at midnight or 10 o'clock.
[02:16:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. You know, or whatever. You know? It's Yeah. Well, that's because you're in a place you wanna be.
[02:16:55] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. You you you know, that was that was something else because when I was down, you know, watching all the cars and just all this here and and then well and plus, I love boats anyway. Oh, yeah. I was I've I've I've loved boats my whole life. Yeah. Just like me and trains. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, for me, it's been it's I mean, I yeah. I love big boats, small boats, fat boats, skinny boats. I love all boats. I don't care. And that's why you went in the fucking army.
[02:17:28] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Instead of the fucking navy. I love boats so much, but I'm a fucking join the army and be a mechanic.
[02:17:37] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Well, yeah, you know, it's funny because, you know, my, my real dad and my first stepdad was, in the navy. Both of them were. And, say my grandfather, he was in, the Royal Air Force
[02:17:57] Duuude-Ron :
or some he was air force.
[02:17:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. He was he was, say, I think he was a pilot. I'm not sure. But either way, it's it's just the thing is, though, I wanted to be different. And that's why that's why I went in the army because I knew I wasn't like them. I wasn't like everybody else. I don't I don't follow in people's footsteps a lot of times, and it's caused me heartache, headaches,
[02:18:30] Bryan Goodwin:
and a whole lot. Consternations. Yep.
[02:18:32] Rich Chelson:
And but, also a lot of excitement.
[02:18:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. You know? And that's, I mean, funny enough, that's, that's me also. I mean, I, I do stuff for the very fact that that too many people are doing the opposite thing. So, you know, everybody, you know, everybody would be listening to one particular song. I wouldn't listen to the song growing up. Because everybody else is listening to it. It's like, oh, I don't care to listen to it. I'm tired. You know? I got tired of listening to that. You know? Everybody else is listening to hard rock. I'm sitting there listening to smooth jazz just to just to be different. You know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. No. And that's that's the thing. Same here. You know?
[02:19:20] Rich Chelson:
And and, you know, but but you see and this is this is why I don't know about you, but this is why I've had I've had a few problems in the past. And I mean, it's not so much anymore, but, you know, in the past, it's like, you know, I can watch people just blindly follow everybody else, and it and it drives me up a wall. I mean, it's still something that I'm working on with my mind because I wanna walk up to these people and just shake them, you know Oh, yeah. And just, you know, put their brains back together and say, hey. Be original. Exactly.
You know? But, you know, you know, putting hands on people is kind of a you know upon for some reason. It is. It is. And and I would probably visit the inside of a jail, which I, you know, I've only done once in my life, and then I and I have no intention of doing it again. Right. But and that's what that's sometimes it's it's it's very hard for me, and that's why I just gotta turn my back and walk away. You know? Because it it's just it's like, god, people. You're just going along with everybody. Stop it. Live your life. Do Right.
Fuck everybody else. I mean, that's just that's just my opinion. But Right. And I've been I've been saying that for the last, what, 30 years, 20 years? I don't know. Oh, yeah. No. I just, I mean, just can't do it, you know, and you say like that like that, neural divergent we was talking about. Yeah. I mean, that what how? I mean,
[02:21:13] Bryan Goodwin:
I you see, I don't Some people claim that it's, depending on who you talk to and who thinks thinks that their thought way of thinking is neurodivergent. It some people say, well, I see I see words when I think or I see pictures when I think. Okay? And some people hear voices when they think. Right. I will. Yeah. No. And it that's and no. There was a there was a a, a story that someone was telling where their sister actually thought she was going insane because she'd never realized that that was her just her thinking. She thought she was hearing voices and never realized that that was just her having thoughts.
And so and a lot of people do. They think in that way. I think in sentences. You know? I there's times that whenever I'm looking at something, I will have I will I'll I'll think about it. And good one a good example of this of of how some people think in, think in in pictures is a, I got a guy out here who's changing out a tire. Y'all picking that noise up?
[02:22:26] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. No. I'm not. Okay. Good.
[02:22:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Is, the movie called Temple Grandin. If you've ever seen Temple Grandin, she they kind of they kinda do it in a in a whimsical way of how temple looks at the world. And I don't know. Do y'all have any idea who Temple Grandin is? No. Okay. Have y'all ever gone to a ranch and seen what, what a lot of people call the snake, which is the the thing that they put the cattle in, and the cattle just kinda follow this round path to get to where they're needing to go? Like, if you're working cattle, it's kind of a it's usually kind of like a semicircle. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I could say I've kinda seen yeah. I've seen that. Okay. That's thanks to Temple Grandin. And Temple Grand is still alive. Still still alive and well. She's, she works at the, at the university in Fort Stockton. Is it Fort Stockton, Colorado?
The 4th that's up in North Colorado. Yeah. Okay. Whatever that college is up that that area. Temple Grandin still works there, and she is labeled as autistic. But she had, she actually took animal husbandry to a whole new level where it was how she got it set up to where on how to get cattle to, to actually more gently get themselves to go into the depths. Because they used to go off and and, just had a a drop off into into the dip pond that they would have to swim through it and climb out. And temple actually set it up to where it was a it's a slope in, and there's foot hoof holds in there. And so they have got all these, you know, she made all these big huge changes to the livestock industry.
And, and she's still and she's it's just a fabulous story. And if you catch it on, on the different streaming site, sites often and, and highly recommend it. Natalie port yeah. Natalie Portman is playing Temple Grandin. Wow. And and Natalie Portman is a hottie. Yeah. And and Temple Grandin is very country to put it to say the least because, yeah, she is very, very country.
[02:25:07] Duuude-Ron :
But, but They don't wear a sporty.
[02:25:10] Bryan Goodwin:
No. She is very I mean, she still, she still does. The 19 fifties style buckaroo western shirts. Oh, wow. Okay. She still wears these styles. What's with the piping on the on, you know, on on all the seams and stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Boom. She's got that.
[02:25:30] Rich Chelson:
See that? That's class right there. I mean I mean, you can pull that off. Yes. It's the bomb.
[02:25:38] Bryan Goodwin:
And Temple is awesome. So my uncle, whenever he worked up there, worked up there, he he, got to talk to Temple Grandin all the time is what he's saying. So Okay. Well well okay. Okay. I oh, it hey. Hey. It says, it stars Claire Danes, not Oh, Claire Danes. Not not not yeah. Yeah. Claire Danes. I'm sorry. Still, I love Claire Danes as well.
[02:26:00] Rich Chelson:
I mean, she's awesome, but no. I'm okay. Yeah. I can I'm I'm I'm understanding what you're saying about, you know, seeing things in pictures because while while you were talking, there's a guy I know. He's he runs, Merrimack Caverns in Missouri. Uh-huh. And, I mean, nice guy. Love him to death. But when you give him a phone number, he will stop. He will sit there and look blankly into space, and he will memorize your phone number by looking at in in his mind, looking at an old touch tone telephone. Yeah. And, and, and, and he will figure out, and, and he puts words with, the phone number And that way, he he doesn't forget it. It's weird. It's weird, but, I mean, it it works for him. Yeah. And that there's actually a really,
[02:27:06] Bryan Goodwin:
there that's actually a whole, way that a lot of people actually set themselves up to remember.
[02:27:13] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:27:14] Bryan Goodwin:
So they actually will put themselves through this whole mental, this mental, obstacle course, for lack of a better word, to help remember a series of, say, like, a shopping list. So they may go out to it may have them, in the picture have them pictured in the house. They go out in the backyard, and, off to the left is a beehive. Well, that beehive is for honey. So you see the beehives, you remember honey. So you walk out, see the beehive. Then as you go along, you see your cat. The cat's standing in the sandbox. Sandbox is for the litter. So we need honey. We need cat litter. And so also we need to we go over and we, come inside and we go to the basement, and there's a cardboard box for us to slide down the stairs. Alright. We're gonna need a cardboard box. We've also got honey, we've got the cat litter, we got cardboard boxes, and, you know, you could go through this and as you give yourself this whole little little space, little, little obstacle course, it helps you do actually remember. And a lot of people do use that as, as a means to remember. But is that because they're neurodivergent?
[02:28:35] Rich Chelson:
No. You see? Yeah. Exactly. No. I I would I would have to say no. That's just because and you see, that's the thing. You know? It it seems like everyone nowadays has to put the label on fucking everything. And that's why. You don't have feel special.
[02:28:54] Duuude-Ron :
But And let's go back all the way to the beginning of this whole fucking thing and go back to one word. What is blank? What is it? What is starts with an n.
[02:29:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Noun for 300.
[02:29:19] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. Well, we start the way we started this conversation,
[02:29:27] Bryan Goodwin:
what is normal? Noise. Oh, norm. Normal. Yeah. It's dorby. Okay, duh. What is I was like going, yeah, god, I don't remember what we were talking about 7 hours ago or 3 Is that 7 o'clock? What was that? I don't know.
[02:29:42] Duuude-Ron :
And you and you and you think I'm freaking out there flapping when you ask me a question and yeah. Okay. I'll fucking remember that. But, anyway, what is normal?
[02:29:55] Rich Chelson:
Exact yeah. Exactly. And you see, that's the thing. That's the Am I normal?
[02:30:01] Duuude-Ron :
Fuck. I wouldn't classify myself as normal. Yeah. But sitting here watching the show Cops. Let me ask you this. Is any one of those fucking people on Cops normal?
[02:30:15] Rich Chelson:
You know? Well, they're normal. On ripenels? Well, you see you see, that's the thing. Normal normal is, subjective. Yeah. It it is. Because what is normal for you is not normal for me or not normal for the the, people in the cops because they're getting arrested. But you see and and you see, that's where that's where you can't normalize Yeah. Anything, really.
[02:30:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. You cannot normalize anything. Well There are just no nothing is nothing is normal. Let me ask you this. If me and Elon Musk were and you if you didn't know who Elon Musk was, And if we were just standing next to each other, would you be able to tell of what is normal as far as financial, success?
[02:31:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. I mean, honestly, because you see that you well well well, you see there again, you see, your definition of success and my definition of of success is different. So you see, that's where see, this is where this is all this is all a rabbit hole that that this podcast lady brought up or whatever. You know? And it's and it's honestly I mean, if you ask me, just from just from what we've talked about and and our current discussion,
[02:31:59] Duuude-Ron :
she's found a way to take
[02:32:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No. She has found a way to take a a perfectly innocent thing and make millions off of it, which I mean I mean, more power to her, but I'm I'm I I can't get behind it. You know?
[02:32:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:32:29] Rich Chelson:
I I, you know, and and you you you say, I know there is autistic people out here, and I and I know there's people with learning disabilities and all like this. I personally know quite a few of them. You know? But still, the thing is is not everybody
[02:32:49] Bryan Goodwin:
is well, if you ask me, everyone's basically checking out because they don't wanna adult is what it is. Right. It's easier to just go, well, I can't, you know, I don't think of it that way. And so I I'm I'm I've got this label of, I got this disability of being neurodivergent. It's like, no, dude. You're not a disabled dude just because you don't think like what you think everybody else is supposed to think.
[02:33:15] Rich Chelson:
Right. And that's the thing. How do they know what what, everyone else is supposed to think? Because they don't know they don't know what in hell they're thinking.
[02:33:27] Duuude-Ron :
Well, what you just said, Gretch, about stop adulting, man, I wanted to stop adulting now for fucking years.
[02:33:36] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Dude, I won't argue with that. In fact, it was it was funny. The other day, I was looking at a piece of mail. It was it was, god, it was something to do with, see, I think my lawnmower loan and trying to get that paid and set up and all like this. And I just I just stopped and said out loud, I gotta wanna stop adulting today. So I stopped and, turned the TV on and just sat down and did nothing. I said, fuck this. I'm out. I I just I just had enough, man. It was just like, oh my god, you know, trying to figure it out. I was having a hard time. I'm like, no. I'm just tired of adulting. Right. You know? I mean, I love my house and all like that, but sometimes it's it's like, dude.
[02:34:26] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Enough is enough, and it's enough.
[02:34:29] Duuude-Ron :
But the thing is When can we go when can we go back and start playing with marbles again?
[02:34:35] Rich Chelson:
Oh god. That was Tomorrow. Right? I need to go meet at that Hobby Lobby then.
[02:34:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Go back to Hobby Lobby and get yourself some marbles. Yep. However, I got plenty of them rambling around in my fucking skull. I don't need any more.
[02:34:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, can I borrow some? Yeah.
[02:35:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I think I got 2. You and you want some of those? Yeah. Yeah. That's a More like that. Wow. That's scary. You want, yeah, you want some of these marbles? That's scary. Yeah.
[02:35:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. That's I I I don't know. That's where you see, that's where you see that I don't I don't see that person being a coach or anything very long thinking like that. But then again, I could be wrong because with the way people think nowadays anyway
[02:35:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. No. They they're they're going to buy into it because they're like, hey. I've I've been calling myself neurodivergent for the past 3 years. Okay. You're my copy. And so yeah. Congratulations. She tapped into that field. She tapped into that one. So good for her. I just am one who just just has a visceral reaction to people who use the term neurodivergent. I also have a visceral reaction to people who go, well, I've got trauma in my life. I've got generational trauma. It's like, no. You fucking don't. Sorry. Your your ancestors are not coming through the ether, thumping you on the head with a with an ax. Alright? Sorry. But Lizzie Borden didn't kill you too.
So don't we try to say that you've got generational trauma? No. Now you may have a your your parents may have a means of wanting to do something because they think that, that is how their parents did it. But, again, that has that has nothing to do with generations, and it's not traumatic. It's just how grandma did it. And that's the that's one of the you know, that I just people wanna talk about having trauma and and stuff like that. And it's like, no. Sorry. But your emotions are not busted. You do not have emotional trauma. You had the hottest girl in school call you loser when you asked her out on a date.
That's all that happened. Right. It was not traumatic. You thought it was traumatic, but it it did no harm to your emotional state. You cried for a little bit.
[02:37:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But they think well, that's like there's there's someone that I know, that they think they have post post traumatic stress or no, postpartum depression because they say they've had 3 miscarriages, but there's no, proved they were ever pregnant.
[02:38:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I've had known I've known some some women who have who love to use that. I've suffered for postpartum. It's like, no. Okay. Congratulations. Yeah. You had a child. There's another coach that I know of who likes to talk about how she had, what was the new thing? What does she call it? Postpartum anxiety. I'm like going, oh my god. No. Not everything is fucking anxiety. Alright? Right. It's like running around. Everybody's trying to say that if you don't agree with them, they're that you're a racist. It's like, no. Not everything is is based with in anxiety. Did you have anxiety because you had a child? This is your first child? Yes. Were you scared to death that you're gonna wake up one morning and your child's gonna be dead? Yes. Congratulations.
Every parent goes through that with every child. Yeah. Eventually, you go to realizing, oh, hey, wait a minute. They're they're going to make it. You know, if they you got them past that 1st year, you're pretty you're pretty well set. Now are there still things that could happen? Yeah. You could who knows? You could wake up, you could wake up one morning and find yourself dead. How that happens, I don't know. But it would I'm sure it happens somewhere along the way.
[02:39:43] Duuude-Ron :
When?
[02:39:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. But I'm sure it's I'm sure someone's probably woken up dead a couple times.
[02:39:52] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[02:39:55] Rich Chelson:
That would be a feat. At least once.
[02:39:59] Duuude-Ron :
No. I just don't wanna wake up. What's up, dad? Fucking
[02:40:04] Bryan Goodwin:
yeah. Please do not I don't wanna fucking come back and do any more of this adulting shit. Oh, no. If I find out you've gone off and passed, I'm gonna find a necromancer, and he's gonna raise your ass up.
[02:40:17] Rich Chelson:
I wanna be a Toys R Us kid, man.
[02:40:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I identify with a ham sandwich. Well or grilled cheese sandwich. What the fuck? No. Yeah. It'll be too late because I will already be turned into ashes. Plain and simple. Next day.
[02:40:41] Rich Chelson:
Next day, I am gonna be I am Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. I'm gonna be back up, and it's a couple days.
[02:40:50] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. If you wanna fucking, you know, put me in the little, the fucking smoker, the little fucking pellets, by all means, knock yourself out.
[02:41:04] Rich Chelson:
What do we have on? Smoked rum. Smoked dude.
[02:41:09] Duuude-Ron :
You know, the I'll smoke a beef. I don't care. Or pork. What the hell? Dude smoked brisket. Yeah. I ain't gonna give a shit at that point in time. Everybody else gonna have to deal with this, not me.
[02:41:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Nah. We're gonna turn you into the first person for the haunted forest. We're gonna plant turn you into a tree. Get one of those get one of those tree pods. You seen those?
[02:41:39] Duuude-Ron :
You know, my grandson wants to do that.
[02:41:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, it was. He turns away. Do you take the person you fold basically, you kinda fold them up into a into a kinda, into a, fold them up into the, into a fetal position? And and, basically, you pack dirt dirt and and burlap around them, and then you plant a little tree in the top. And, basically, you feed the tree. So and that's how you make a haunted forest.
[02:42:12] Rich Chelson:
Oh my gosh.
[02:42:15] Duuude-Ron :
I had never heard of that. There no. There are people. That that is a,
[02:42:21] Bryan Goodwin:
a whole industry of doing of of comp you could you could actually even legally have yourself composted.
[02:42:29] Rich Chelson:
All the I've seen a couple of them ads. I I I just I I just thought they were hooey, but you know?
[02:42:39] Duuude-Ron :
No. That's what my grandsons want to do. Okay. When they pass away, it's become fertilizer for a tree. Why not?
[02:42:49] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know what? I mean, it's just the body. It's not their soul. So, you know, whatever you wanna do. You're right. Would it float your boat? Have you?
[02:42:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Then you can't take it with you.
[02:43:00] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[02:43:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's the thing. Only one person has done that. 1. And that happened a little over 2000 years ago. Actually, 24 100 years ago. No. 2000 years ago. Not 24, 2000. Only one person has done that.
[02:43:22] Bryan Goodwin:
What? That was Elijah, wasn't it? No. Jesus. Well, Elijah didn't die. He just went up to heaven.
[02:43:30] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. No. That's right. That's true.
[02:43:32] Duuude-Ron :
But Jesus was the only one that took his body with him. No. No. His body was in the tomb, dude. His spirit went to him. Okay. And he came back. Spirit. What happened to his body? It wasn't in the tomb after 3 days.
[02:43:50] Rich Chelson:
It wasn't in the tomb. Yes, sir. You're right. You might my fault my fault. I stand corrected. Yeah. I was gonna say, did y'all get did y'all get to watch that,
[02:43:59] Bryan Goodwin:
the video on, the Bible through, through Satan's, perspective?
[02:44:05] Rich Chelson:
No. Not yet. Oh. I haven't watched it. I will watch it, though.
[02:44:14] Bryan Goodwin:
It's it's actually really interesting. I mean, it it's not anything of, you know, where they're trying to glorify the devil or anything. They're just it's just yeah. It gives you the motivation as to why Satan is Satan. Right. And, essentially, it's all about pride. He all he, he he thought that the angels should be God's favorite. And all of a sudden, he made these little weak, helpless beings on earth, and they are his favorite. And he's supposed to there's we're supposed to receive all these blessings. And, it basically was just like, and Satan or Lucifer was just like, well, fuck this, man. That's bullshit. I'm I'm sitting here giving him all the love and praise and time, and then he goes off and says, hey. I like these guys. They're gonna get the keys to the kingdom. It's like, no.
And so it goes down a whole path, and so the jealousy of humans is what causes him to show to get Eve to pay take a bite from the the, from the tree of good and evil, and and Tree of knowledge. Tree
[02:45:31] Duuude-Ron :
of knowledge. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:45:33] Bryan Goodwin:
And take, and why he, he got god to, to harangue, Job like he did, or not even get Joe god, but, god gave, Satan permission to, to do, all the stuff that he did to Job and Yep. To see if he'd get Job with us.
[02:46:01] Rich Chelson:
He knew he knew Job Job wouldn't, wouldn't deny God. And the only thing he told Satan not to do is you cannot kill him. You can kill him. And you can do anything else you want, but he will never deny me. And Satan didn't believe him.
[02:46:25] Bryan Goodwin:
And, He came close a couple time or one at least once. I mean, who wouldn't?
[02:46:30] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:46:32] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. It's serious. But, yeah, he, Yeah. He he, he, he, persevered.
[02:46:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, it's but it's a really it's a really interesting way of of of telling the biblical story.
[02:46:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'll look it up, and is it on Amazon?
[02:47:02] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm on no. It's on YouTube.
[02:47:04] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:47:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Should be in the, in the show notes for last week.
[02:47:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I saw it. I I was just I was just seeing if it was on, Amazon Prime too.
[02:47:22] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I don't think he's I don't think he made it that high enough production.
[02:47:27] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[02:47:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Because it's just an animation. It's I think the, I think the name of the channel is Biblical Animations, if if I'm remembering right. Yeah. So Yeah.
[02:47:45] Rich Chelson:
But, anyhow, see what time are we at. Yeah. It's about 10:2.
[02:47:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, it's probably about time for us to get it all wrapped up then. So, guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for taking the time to sit here and listen to us and hear hear what we have to say and the fact that I'm actually gonna be using these 2 2 fine gentlemen to hold me accountable because that's one of the things we never got around to actually talk about. We got sidetracked on on this on a deal. So let's, what I basically am gonna do next by next this time next week is I am going to have a list of at least 50 businesses that I plan on calling.
And, from there, we'll just we're gonna whittle away that list. So and probably keep adding to the list also. So
[02:48:32] Rich Chelson:
but do me a favor also. I mean, that's awesome, and and I will I will expect it. But do me a favor also and write down what you plan to, say to each business.
[02:48:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Then that'll be what we do first then. Okay. So so, yeah, we'll come up with the pitch, and then we'll go from there. So Yeah. They I mean, that this way here, this way here,
[02:48:58] Rich Chelson:
you know which way you need to go, and then and then and then you can shift and and slide as you need to. Right.
[02:49:08] Bryan Goodwin:
So alright. Will do then. So, yep, that'll be the, that'll be the the assignment for me for this, this next week is, we're as we make this show all about me. Yeah. So, is yeah. We're gonna I'll I'll come up with the, with with the the key points of the pitch, and and, and we'll we'll go from there. So but anyhow. So alright, guys. So let's try swinging at this again. Alright, guys. So thanks again for, for listening as we, as we go through our life intentionally with each other. And that's what this show is all about is that me, the dude, and Rich are all 3 just living our life together. This is just how we talk with each other, how we have these communications because a man's community is one of the most important communities in a man's life. We we sacrifice our friendship for the sake of just doing life day to day life. And it is the lack of connection that men have that causes so much of their suffering.
And I wanna try to bring it back, bring make it normal for guys to have just conversations where if you haven't asked, say you're like, hey, guys. Hold me accountable. You can go to them. Go to these guys and go, hey, hold me accountable. I want to make sure that I do this. And they can go, no. You're not doing that. You're gonna do this instead. Like we just did. It's like, okay. Well, I'll I'm going instead of, doing a list of of of good, companies, I'm gonna be working on pitches. So we're doing that. And this is what we do. This is how we live together. If they if Rich had a, had a a problem that he wanted to be addressed, then he would be speaking up going, hey. I need this from y'all guys. I this I haven't asked it. Alright? And when Ron has a problem and he wants to have an ask, he's got he's got room for his ask. And we can all ask for each other, and that's what makes our masculinity so great is because it is the fact that we are living life with each other, Though we're none of us are in the same spot.
I'm over in Oklahoma. Ron's down in Texas. And Rich is over in Mississippi. And we are still getting together every Thursday night, having discussions, talking for 3 hours. I mean, who talks that much? My wife has a hard time believing that we talk that much, but we do. And when I get off, she's, like, talking all 3 hours. Yeah. Every every week, every Thursday, we're talking it's like she's it's funny because she does. She's, like, going, you just talked to him for 2 hours yesterday. What do you have left to talk about? I was like, oh, shit, man. We got all sorts of stuff to talk about. Because, yes, us guys do like to talk. Yes. We do. We don't have to talk. We have our our our the mind our cave of a of a mind where we can crawl into and we could sit. And there's good there's times that we want we need to draw into our fortress of solitude.
It is very manly for us to do that, but to sit there day in, day out, day in, day out, that's where you start losing yourself. You start believing the bullshit that you're telling yourself. You need to have some friends out there who slap you on the back of the head and say, you're being an idiot. Stop it. Come on. You're coming with us. We're going fishing. All right. Fine. We're going fishing. And we take and you take off and you live life with each other. And that's the glory, that's the beauty of what this podcast is about. Now this podcast is a podcasting 2.0, type of podcast. It is done with podcasting 2.0 specs in mind, which means that we also do value for value for, from our, from our listeners. If you wanna help us to make sure that our this podcast keeps going, then tell us how much value you got.
And then whatever how much value you decided you got from this, from this episode, then share it with us. Give us a share whatever that value is. If it's, you know, if it's $50, sweet. It's $50. If it's $2, okay. It's $2. It doesn't matter what the amount is. It's just what you think we are worth. And when you could share that out, you could also share it out through, through not just, because we're using what's called the funding tag. So you can actually send us our, a a a donation, but through, through PayPal. And that will actually show up, in the PayPal account. And there's actually a link in the, in the in the modern podcasting apps that allows you to actually go to to PayPal and and to make a make a donation that way. Or if you want and you wanna send Satoshis, you'd like to send us a a, a Boostagram, you could do that too. We would send a Boostagram back to you with a with a reply or and also talk to you live on the show if we're happy to be on the show at the, that time.
And so this one of the glorious things about what podcasting 2.0 is there's so much advancement, so much, interesting aspects of what podcasting is now doing that is just exciting. And it's another reason why we got into do turning this into a podcast is just because, hey. We can, and it's fun, and it's cool. And so we did. And that's one of the fun things you you could do. You can have the 3 heads, one brain aspect like we have, and it's a great thing. So it because eventually, we do. We work we equal out to a one hopeful brain. And so we actually are kinda sorta smart in a roundabout fragmented way. So but you it's it's it's how you wanna do it. You get to do the show how you want. If you'd like to know more about what we're doing, then please, you know, reach out to us.
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[02:55:43] Duuude-Ron :
so if you're It's a perpetual rotary phone. I got no problem with that. Exactly. You got
[02:55:48] Bryan Goodwin:
be like John c Dvorak. I've got a phone. It's in the drawer. So downstairs in the in the kitchen. So That's right. Hanging on the wall. Hanging on the wall. So we have that's I was going someplace and my brain just completely up and down. Oh, I remember where I was going. So but if if there's anything about this show that you enjoyed, you liked about it, share it with your friends, throw it up on the Facebook, throw it up on the Twitter, Instagram, wherever it is that you like, that you have your following wherever you have your community at, share it up there. Let let everybody around know that there's these this show called 2 grumpy vets that dude and it's a 3 hour show, and it's just they talk about some of the dumbest shit that you ever come across because they just do. And who knows why? But they do. They talk about it, and it's semi entertaining.
They get a lot of their information wrong, and that's what kinda what makes it entertaining is because they tell you a bunch of bullshit, and they they don't even know the difference. So we have fun. We enjoy each other, and we enjoy the time that we spend with each other because of the fact that we want to see and talk with each other as we go through our go through our life. So, guys, with that, I'm gonna go ahead and pass it on over to Rich. Rich, what do you have to say for your closing closing words?
[02:57:08] Rich Chelson:
I don't know if I could follow that, dude. That was actually pretty good, to to be honest with you. Now, actually, no. I, I
[02:57:17] Bryan Goodwin:
That was pretty good. No. No. No.
[02:57:21] Rich Chelson:
No. I do. I do. I I I, I I do need to throw this in there. You know? I I normally thank everybody for listening. And, obviously, we're doing something right because we broke a 1,000 fucking downloads before 6 months. It was it was it was we were, like, 2 weeks away from, 6 months when we broke because it was last week when we broke a 1,000 downloads. Right. And I was like, oh my god. I don't I don't know what we're doing or how we're doing it. We picked up another country. So I just, again, I just god. Thank thank everybody that's listening. I mean, no one's said anything to us yet, which we'd love to hear from you. You know? Good, better, indifferent, we don't give a shit. Like Brian said, you know, 3 brains, you know, make one mind.
You know? So, you know, between the 3 of us, we could come up with something. Yep. You know? But, yeah, share it out like like Brian said and yeah. Any copywriters, like we talked about earlier in the podcast. If if, you know, y'all can help Brian out with copy on the on his current website, [email protected], or, hell, [email protected], and I'll make sure Brian gets it. You know, either way, it just get it to either one of us, and we'll, definitely make sure it gets through. And you and Brian can work details out, and y'all can have your thing, and it'd be all good to go. So but that's all I got. You know? I just I just I I just I just love the fact that people are actually listening to our bullshit.
You know? It's it's it's actually, you know, kinda weird. We go, what, you know, 40, 50 years of our life and, you know, thinking no one's listening to us and, shit, we've had a 1,000 downloads in in less than 6 months? Yep. Okay. Well, I'm just gonna keep going until, you know,
[02:59:30] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll just keep going. I don't care. But Yeah. Just keep going until someone says say stop. So
[02:59:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, then I'll probably still keep going just because I'm dead. Just piss them off. Exactly. Right. Right. So but, yeah, that's that's about all I got. I just I just wanna thank everybody. And no, honestly, I wanna say one more thing. I wanna thank you, Brian, and you dude for making me do this. At first, I was kinda dreading it. I don't know why, but I was. But now I've I've we've been doing it so long. I've I've come to look forward to it. You know? Oh, yeah. It's it's just I don't know. I I I don't know the right words I'm thinking of. I just know that that it's Thursday, man. I've got a podcast with with the dude and Brian. You know? I I've got to.
So, yeah, just, you know, thank you guys. I appreciate it.
[03:00:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Glad we're able to be here to have a good time. That's right. So alright. Dude, what do you got to say for the last, for the end of the ending shot?
[03:00:46] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Again, Rich said it first. You know, how how can I follow-up on what you two gentlemen have just said? You know, it's great that we're able to come together every week to be able to do this and that we have individuals that are listening to us just climb down every fucking rabbit hole that has probably ever been produced and just that we enjoy each other's company. And, yes, these two individuals have helped me in many different ways in my life, and I'm grateful. And so we're here for is to help you. And That's right. Thank everybody out there for listening to us.
So
[03:01:56] Bryan Goodwin:
What was that? No. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say, alright. Well, guys, I appreciate y'all taking the, taking the time again to listen to us because I know these, these shows are stretch out for a little bit. But, heck, if you're listening to it while you're driving, at least we're, at least we're helping you, get further down the road. And so, guys, we're we are not putting you to sleep while you're driving. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If we if you have fallen asleep, we we don't have an email address. We don't know what to what to say. Sorry. We, so yeah. But it it's not us. So don't know who you're talking about. Right. That's a Have no idea.
[03:02:36] Rich Chelson:
Nope.
[03:02:37] Bryan Goodwin:
So but anyhow, guys. Alright. Y'all have yourselves a good rest of the week. Y'all take care, and we will see you next Thursday. Till then, bye. Peace. See you. Alright, guys. We'll catch y'all next week. Alright. Alright. See you then. Gentlemen.
[03:02:53] Duuude-Ron :
Bye. Alright. Be safe out there, guys. You too. Absolutely.
[03:02:57] Rich Chelson:
Bye.
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude. Reporting in progress.
[00:00:36] Rich Chelson:
If it's not Mister Bryan. Hello. What's up, dude?
[00:00:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Not a much. And you?
[00:00:46] Rich Chelson:
I'm wore the fuck out.
[00:00:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Uh-huh. So It's Not getting much, radio from what I'm understanding. We're supposed to be getting what? Like, a big storm you know, solar storm coming through. There's people in Amarillo asking if they can see the or see the Aurora Borealis this tonight. Yeah. No. It's not supposed to come down that far. Yeah. It's supposed to, like, what I saw in Noah is about, about the bottom south for most southern part of Nebraska, maybe.
[00:01:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. We got a g 4 coming through, and, we had a, g 3 just a couple days ago. I don't know. Yeah. I'm not sure what the hell's going on. Why I mean, yeah. It's I'm I'm not even trying. I saw the numbers the other day, and I'm like, yeah. I'm not even No animal. No animal. No. I did I did POTA the other day during the day during the day, and it was it was a challenge to get 12 contacts.
[00:01:48] Duuude-Ron :
Wow.
[00:01:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, whereas normally, yeah, I could pop 12 contacts within less than 30 minutes. Okay. So Oh oh, god. Damn it.
[00:02:03] Bryan Goodwin:
I will remember to do that next time one day.
[00:02:07] Rich Chelson:
Let's see here.
[00:02:08] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll just need to shoot Ron a text.
[00:02:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You can't forget the Dizzaroos?
[00:02:14] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Because now I'm gonna need I'm gonna need yours and Ron's assistance here.
[00:02:25] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:02:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Because I think I've got a plan. And I'm sure someone has mentioned this plan to me before, but it finally became my idea. So it just took a while to sink in.
[00:02:40] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god. So That that's why I love you, Brad.
[00:02:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:02:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I wasn't trying to piss you off last night, dude. No. Well and that's just it. You weren't. I
[00:02:51] Bryan Goodwin:
when I get in I become impassioned
[00:02:54] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[00:02:55] Bryan Goodwin:
I become that's how I talk, which annoys the shit out of my wife because she wants tell her to stop yelling at her. And I'm like, I'm not yelling. I'm just talking to you.
[00:03:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. No. You weren't you weren't yelling, yelling. I I mean, I you know, I understood for what it was. Right. You know? And everything like this. And I I mean, I get it because I've I've been the same way. You know? Right. Because it's like it's like, by god, when when I've got it clear as mud in my head,
[00:03:27] Bryan Goodwin:
fuck it. That's it. I'm not listening to nothing else. I know what I'm talking about, dad. Burn it. I'm telling you. I know what I'm saying, and it's it works this way, and it works I know, and, oh, it works that way too. Yeah.
[00:03:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. And then and then and then, yeah, later on, I'm like, wow. That didn't go as planned. Nope. It's like, fuck. May maybe I should've listened to someone else. Oh, hell no. I ain't gonna admit that. I know that. Yeah.
[00:03:57] Bryan Goodwin:
I have no problem admitting it. It just has to be like I said, it just has to become my idea before, before I accept it. So Right. I know.
[00:04:09] Rich Chelson:
But anyhow, so But, yeah, no, it was
[00:04:13] Bryan Goodwin:
I was gonna wonder if we were staring on or not.
[00:04:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That that thought that thought because Ron didn't say too much, man. No.
[00:04:27] Bryan Goodwin:
He was just like, I'm gonna hang out of the question, out of the out of the picture here. He's like he's like he's like, I ain't even getting up in this.
[00:04:35] Rich Chelson:
No. I mean, it's just you see and and see this oh, well, hang on. Yeah. Yeah. We'll scroll to that here in a second. But Oh, hell yes. You see, though, that's the thing. You know you know, we did that last night on our vet call, you know, that, that we have, you know, once a week on Wednesday, but, you know, sometimes I think we've done it once or twice on the podcast here.
[00:05:06] Bryan Goodwin:
But Yeah. We've gotten we've gotten into discussions, but, I mean, that was that was a that was a no. No. No. You ain't listening to what I'm saying. I don't think you're listening to what I'm saying. No. That's because you're not listening to what I'm saying. Right. Right. But but
[00:05:21] Rich Chelson:
but see, though, that's the thing. You know? It's you see, a lot of people, whether they're male or female, I mean, you know, we lean towards the male side because we happen to know the male side better than the female side. Right. But, you know, it is it is okay for for a 2 men to have an impassioned discussion, a spirited discussion and still be friends.
[00:05:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, very much so. And and Exactly good for for relationships to have.
[00:05:54] Rich Chelson:
Yes. It is.
[00:05:57] Bryan Goodwin:
So and that's that's something a lot of society right now doesn't understand. They're all wigged out and and shy about it. And they're, oh, no. We can't, we can't be having that type of, that type of discussion. It's like, well, yeah, actually, and you can have it as spirited debate. That's what a spirited debate is about. Yeah. It's all spirit.
[00:06:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, and and and you see back when schools had debate teams, I mean, they were whatever subject they had, whether they were for or against it, they freaking they freaking became, very much impassioned with that subject. Right. You know, because they had studied so much on it and everything like that. And so, no, it it you no. You're right. It is healthy once in a while to, you know, to have a discussion like that.
[00:06:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Oh, I did, I did make a discovery this weekend because I this this last weekend, I was wanting to do, do some live streaming on, through the, the, podcasting 2.0 protocol. You know, be able to go through the, the modern podcasting apps you which you can get over at modern podcastingapps. Or new podcastingapps.comor@, podcasting, 2.org, slash apps. And, I was running into the echo problem where if I would talk for a little bit, I would I'd be yada yada yada. And then a few moments, you know, I I think it's about a damn minute long delay. It or yeah. It's a long old delay, but then you would hear yada yada yada yada, and it would be a little dimmer.
And about a minute later, you'd hear yada yada yada yada. And a minute later, yada yada yada. And it would and I get was okay. I was, like, going, okay. This is there's gotta be something going on here. And I got around to look and and I got to thinking. It's like, well, wait a minute. Let's see if I mute just the the channel. Mute the channel so I can't hear it. It's gonna still put it out, but I can't hear it. And so I talk and I say something, you know, like Mary had a little lamb and I wait and I wait and I wait and I couldn't hear it. I was like, oh, it's not doing the mix minus on on the, on the, on the Procaster.
What you actually have to do to do the the mix minus is down at the very bottom. You have your your mute, but you also can hit the ear. So you can hear what's going on on the, on the on the on the deal. So you can mute it Yeah. But it'll mute the audio also. But if you hit the ear, it'll allow you to continue hearing people and does the mix minus for you. And so I was actually able to talk and didn't get any re any echo.
[00:09:10] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Now that's on the, Procaster. Right? Yep. Now the Zoom p 4?
[00:09:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I haven't figured that one out yet.
[00:09:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, is it is it on Zoom or is it on OBS?
[00:09:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Actually, I wasn't using OBS.
[00:09:28] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yeah. You was just using, but
[00:09:34] Bryan Goodwin:
I just turned, I just opened up the butt.
[00:09:37] Rich Chelson:
Opened up the butt. That didn't sound right.
[00:09:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Know. And and that's I whoever came up with the broadcast using this tool and and broke it down to butt is a genius, actually. Fucking genius. I know. Right. Because you're you're you're gonna giggle every time you're talking about, well, I was playing around with the butt. Yeah. And and and and I opened the butt. I opened the butt. Wide. Opened up butt, and then I was looking around in there. And, no, it was just for what, I don't and it may just be something with how, what is the a b, whatever that other, other plug in that we have to use to be able to to gain the the audio from, gain the audio and put it into in the butt. You know? Yeah. The the basically, they're virtual, virtual audio cables.
Right. And just having that and, and, but I was able to live stream to, to the, to the server. And was able to get it to go out. And as a matter of fact, I could even go as far as connecting up the phone to, to the, Procaster and was able to live stream through that also. So I was able send my voice through it.
[00:11:08] Rich Chelson:
And then through, but, and then out through PODDOME. Yeah. Okay.
[00:11:15] Bryan Goodwin:
So, but, on the, I mean, the only thing I can I haven't I haven't taken the Zoom over to, over there yet to actually look to see if maybe I can recreate the, the echo deal either? But for yours, it cut it's it's almost reverb echo.
[00:11:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. But and and see, that's why and see, the thing is it did work.
[00:11:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And I mean, we got it to work in a couple times. Yeah. Yeah. We did. And then I I
[00:11:53] Rich Chelson:
I must have changed the setting for summary because well, you see, when it's okay, if you know, if I'm using a virtual audio cable Uh-huh. While we're podcasting, that's fine. But then, you know, if I try to go watch a a video on YouTube or watch a video on, Facebook, then, I can't hear nothing. Okay. Or or or like if I go to edit with, Audacity, I can't hear I can't hear anything, so I've gotta switch it over to speakers. Mhmm. You know? So so I can edit and stuff like that. But then when, you know, if I switch it back,
[00:12:38] Bryan Goodwin:
for some reason, it has it It go it reverts back to the echo. Yeah.
[00:12:46] Rich Chelson:
So and and you see that's he is. I'm not sure. I'll I'll, I'll play with it this week and see if I have to switch it on on my computer first before I start anything up, and then I'll bring butt up and Yeah. And I'll try it. In fact, I'll probably do that tomorrow.
[00:13:13] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[00:13:15] Rich Chelson:
And try and figure this out because it's just it's, it's frustrating. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, we did have it working and working good.
[00:13:26] Bryan Goodwin:
So yeah. But yeah. It's just, I don't know. That's that's odd that it's it would the only thing I could think of is it's gotta be something between the virtual cable and OBS when you open up OBS. And that might be something you try to see what happens if you just don't even open up OBS
[00:13:49] Duuude-Ron :
at all. Okay.
[00:13:52] Bryan Goodwin:
And see how that works.
[00:13:54] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because yeah. I mean, I mean, honestly, mainly, I mean, we don't really need OBS, do we?
[00:14:01] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean No. We were using it because that's how the directions gave it to us, was to say open up, OBS, but you're not actually putting the video stream into it. Right. Right. So it's just you're just put peeling the, the audio stream off of it. So now you really don't need OBS, unless for whatever reason because Windows, it's which is odd because usually it's Apple. If, if you if Apple's the one that's it's a freaking mother bearer to peel, to peel the audio layer off of a off of off of any type of program.
[00:14:38] Rich Chelson:
Well Yeah. Freaking Apple is is so stuck up about their their their their, extension. It's crazy.
[00:14:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah, because they gotta keep the they they wanna make sure it freaking works.
[00:14:52] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, I understand that, but they can still make sure it works.
[00:14:58] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, WAVE is actually pretty good if you ask me. I like WAVE. No. No. I use WAVE on on on on my the on the back. So whenever I'm so I don't use the what is it? The AAC?
[00:15:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's, that's Apple.
[00:15:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Apple's form of of the, the waveform.
[00:15:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh. So Yeah. I guess I can't do that. Hang on. Let me fire up OBS. Yeah. I closed OBS, and, butt wasn't showing anything. It just died out. I got it back. So, yeah, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna have to play with that tomorrow and, see if I can just use but because
[00:15:45] Bryan Goodwin:
it may have been, may have been some type of update that I didn't catch. So
[00:15:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Might have been. I don't know. I haven't seen, but then again, I haven't been paying attention much to updates. I've been getting a couple, but Right. I haven't been paying attention exactly what all the updates are. So But
[00:16:09] Bryan Goodwin:
So good. So and how is the dude? Dude.
[00:16:15] Duuude-Ron :
Just living the fucking life. Living the fucking life. Going to work, work, going home, going to bed, get up, go to work, rinse and repeat.
[00:16:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, at least you at least you have a routine down. You can just just creep right along just do anything.
[00:16:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I wish you'd go along a hell of a lot quicker or just not fucking wake up tomorrow.
[00:16:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Nah. Nah. We need you to wake up tomorrow. Because if Yeah. Because if you don't wake up tomorrow, that means there's chance you're probably not gonna wake up the following day. And then eventually, Thursday's gonna roll around here, and then all of a sudden, it's not 2 grumpy vets and a dude. It's 2 grumpy vets and no one. And and we gotta have you because, you know, you are the dude.
[00:17:16] Rich Chelson:
That's right. You are the dude. We cannot be the dude. Sorry, man. Hate that you're you're freaking bubble.
[00:17:28] Duuude-Ron :
Critical part of the show. Alright.
[00:17:32] Rich Chelson:
You are, man. You are.
[00:17:35] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I appreciate that. Now just another fucking day in the fucking history books.
[00:17:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it it can be. Yeah.
[00:17:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And then listening to you guys talk, I should have fucking waited about another 20 minutes to come on. No. No. No. If I if I was working at the post office, you know, you wouldn't have to wait for it, dude. Well, no. I wouldn't have to come in for a couple hours because all they do is for the first two hours is, stand around and chitchat and scratch their balls.
[00:18:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah.
[00:18:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, my balls, you know, those are back in Iraq. It was it was a joke I heard. Guy asked, I'll give you a $1,000,000 for every foot that you tell me to measure on your body. So the first guy puts his arms out and says, measure me from fingertip to fingertip. And so he does. It was, 4 feet wide, so he got $4,000,000. Next guy says, okay. Measure me from head to toe. So he was 6 foot tall, so he got $6,000,000. The next guy says, measure me from the head of my dick to my balls. He's like, excuse me? He's like, just do it. So he whips the shit out and measures and goes, man, where's your balls at?
Oh, they're back in Vietnam.
[00:19:21] Rich Chelson:
Holy shit.
[00:19:24] Duuude-Ron :
So yeah. Did you just send a did you just send me an image?
[00:19:28] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I did. I did. It was that that was on a text, wasn't it? Yeah. It was yeah. Because, Yeah. I yeah. It was on a text.
[00:19:43] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So you got what? 3 tea buckets lined up together?
[00:19:48] Rich Chelson:
It's actually 4. The 4th one's in there. But, yeah, it's yeah. Yeah. I I was I was down there in freaking Biloxi today and, rolled into this gas station just to get turned around so I could go back out. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw them, tea buckets right there. And, it's like, yeah, I've gotta get a picture of those.
[00:20:25] Duuude-Ron :
So You know, I've never, you know, I was never really too much of a tea bucket type person.
[00:20:31] Rich Chelson:
You said last night she was.
[00:20:33] Duuude-Ron :
No. I said I'm a 29 through 31 Ford pickup type guy.
[00:20:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, okay. Damn, dude.
[00:20:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, now if somebody gave me a tea bucket, I wouldn't turn them down. Well I would just I would just modify it and put me a little truck bed in the back, you know, make it out of some 2 by tens and, you know, something like that so I could have a place to carry my fucking cooler.
[00:21:07] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. No. This this guys, I gotta tell you right now. Cruising the coast is fucking fucking American graffiti on steroids. I'm serious, man. I mean, I mean, I mean, I love that movie American Graffiti. Right? Oh, hell yeah. I mean, great cars. It's great everything. Yeah. This and and, say I had to go to physical therapy today and and my cute girl was there. And, I was I was talking to her and she said there there was, as of yesterday, there was 8,800 and some cars registered. Damn. So that's that's what's down here. And and, oh my god, riding riding up down on Highway 90 on Beach Boulevard, right along the fucking gulf, and you're riding with with with all these old cars passing you, mixed up in you. It's just it I mean It's cool, man. It's cool. Oh, man. Anyone who's a car guy will nut themselves.
Seriously. I mean, it's it's it's straight up. Wear a fucking condom. You're gonna get messy. No. It just I mean and and and and you see, that's the thing. There's, like, 3 barracudas, I saw today. I've seen a 58 Olds, and and these are cars that that they're old. They're the hot rods, but they're not the mass hot rods like the 55 Chevys, 56 Chevys, 57 Chevys. Right. You know, they're I mean, these are these are the offsides. And and I I freaking love those cars just as much, if not more than the ones that, everyone else knows.
You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. And, oh, I saw it it was it was the seventies in the seventies, but I saw a Lincoln Continental Mark 5.
[00:23:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Good grief. That was what? Two and a half miles long, wasn't it?
[00:23:36] Rich Chelson:
I guarantee you, one and a half times my Jeep at least.
[00:23:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Well, there was a guy who was talking about his, his seventies, Lincoln Mark 5, and it showed him pulling into a into a park a parking spot. Uh-huh. And, his front door came up to the back door of the car that was parked. Mhmm. Right. It's like, we've got a football field for a for a for a hood here. So Oh, no shit. And and that's the thing. This car I mean I mean,
[00:24:08] Rich Chelson:
I I fucking drove right up beside it. We was going down Beach Boulevard, and I just I just I was driving down the road, and I just happened to look over, and I'm like, holy fuck. I'm like, damn. I haven't seen something that big in since I was, what, 15, 16 years old. Oh, hell yeah. You know? I'm like I'm like, dang. I'm also like, that's that was classic. And and it was it was it was it had been redone. You know? It was nice. It was really nice. And I'm like, man. I'm like, god. See? That's when cars were real.
[00:24:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:24:47] Rich Chelson:
You know? And and, I mean, all these cars I've seen and, you know, and shit like this, man, it's just it's it's freaking insane. Right. Plus plus, it was funny. I I got I got I was going going through Biloxi, and it was a 69 rally sport, Camaro. And and it was, it was it was painted like the British racing green, but not as dark. It was just a touch lighter than the British racing green. And, I mean, beautiful car. Oh, fuck. It was beautiful. Well, I'm riding down Biloxi. I'm naked. No top. No doors. No nothing. I I'm just everything's off, and and, they come past me.
I looked over at their car and smiled and nodding my head at him, and the guy's wife looked over at at my Jeep, smiled and nodded at my Jeep. And I'm like, hell, yeah. We could do that all day long. But, yeah, this, I mean, this is this is an insane car. I I mean, I have never seen anything like it. You know? Because most car shows, you know, people gather in a Hardee's parking lot or, you know, somewhere, and then they sit there for 5, 6 hours. Okay. We're done. We're leaving. Here, everybody mixes with fucking everybody because the Jeeps there was Jeeps out, tops, doors off, everywhere in mixed with the cars. There was, newer hot rides, older hot rides.
I mean, everybody just fucking comes together and just cruises, man. They fucking cruise. It's like, it's like, it's like, oh my god. You know? I mean, back in the day when we were allowed to cruise the strip, well, they just have a strip that's 60 miles long you can cruise.
[00:27:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Right.
[00:27:07] Rich Chelson:
You know? But yeah. No. It's just, yeah, it's just cool as shit, man.
[00:27:14] Duuude-Ron :
I can imagine everybody being I can imagine everybody being out there with the hot rods.
[00:27:20] Rich Chelson:
Oh, dude. Ron, I you would be, dude, you'd be smiling from ear to ear. Just all kinds. Just here, there, and everywhere. Oh, I'm sure I would be. And and the thing is people down here, they fuck set their, chairs up and them and them little pop up canopies Yeah. Right on the side of the road. They say fuck it. I ain't driving. Y'all drive by. I'm gonna look at you.
[00:27:48] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:27:49] Rich Chelson:
I mean, it's Yeah. That's
[00:27:51] Duuude-Ron :
and and, like, we'll Yeah. Because they're actually out there cruising. They're not going to a a freaking big parking lot and sitting.
[00:28:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, though, the thing is just about every big parking lot, there are so many cars. They've got cars that are sitting, and then they still got cars running up and down Beach Boulevard. They got all kinds of shit going on from, like, 8, 9 o'clock in the morning until whenever at night. You know? But Right. And, like like, I was going past one of the casinos, and there was people with their lawn chairs sitting in front of the casino. They weren't gambling. They were sitting on the you know, right in front of the casino on the grass watching the cars go by. Enjoying the view. Right. Yeah. No. I mean, it it's like where else do you see that shit?
You know? I mean, I would I would like to know.
[00:28:55] Duuude-Ron :
You know, the only things that I ever see anymore is like, okay. Not last weekend, but the weekend before, they had the good guys national car show up at the big racetrack up in, Fort Worth. Right. So, you know, did I saw a few cars pass me because I was heading up to, and it saw us on 35. You know, I had a few cars pass me, couple cars. We have had my pickup truck on the trailer. You know? There was a 31, Ford pickup truck. It was, like a bronze color. Beautiful truck. You know? And I'm like, man, I fucking wish man, I wish I had that fucking truck. You know? Because I've already had, well, what I was gonna do with the hot rod, and that didn't fucking turn out my way.
But, you know and I've already had one. It's like, fuck. You know?
[00:30:13] Rich Chelson:
But but see see exactly, Ron. This this is what I was thinking about. Like, okay. Take the good guys car show. That's up at a big racetrack. All the cars do all they do is go up there, park, and you go look at it. Exactly. Yes. Yes. That's I I you know? And and I had seen not on a scale that big, but but I had seen car shows like that where, you know, everyone goes and parks and then you go look at them. Okay. And then, well, let's go drink beer. Down here down here, cruising the coast has a life of its own inside of the life on the Gulf Coast.
[00:30:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because they're because they're actually coming down for the most part. Yeah. They're gonna sit and they're gonna show their cars off in the parking lot, and they're gonna, you know, sit behind them like they do with the, you know, canopy and, you know, come and look at my car. And then they're gonna take the canopy down, and then they're gonna actually go cruising, and everybody all the hot rods are actually cruising around. Oh, yeah. They're not just going to they're not just going to one centralized location because you said it's, what, spread out 60 miles between, what, 5, 6 towns?
[00:31:36] Rich Chelson:
Like, almost 8 or 9. Yeah. Okay. From a base of Saint Louis to Pascagoula and every little town in between.
[00:31:46] Duuude-Ron :
Right. And what is the road that takes them all the way through there?
[00:31:50] Rich Chelson:
US Highway 90, Beach Boulevard.
[00:31:53] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Is it a 4 lane? Yes. Yeah. Okay. And With obviously turning lanes in the middle.
[00:32:02] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[00:32:03] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. And and, yeah, that would be great to go and watch and intermingle with, the cars cruising by. Absolutely. That would be a freaking mall. Oh, yeah. But you said yeah. There's no place that that I know of. Right. It's just a go and sit type car show. We had one here in between Belton and Temple that was ribs and rods. Well, it was a freaking, like, $10 entrance fee to go in there. Oh my god. And that that and that isn't even fucking getting you a plate of food. That's just the emission cost. Oh, I don't know. You know, I can understand the yeah. I've gone to car shows where there where there's admission fee to, you know, go to car shows. Yeah. I've I've done that all my life. But, you know no.
Because I can go and once a month, they have a, a car show up at, in Elmont, just north of, Waco. And they'll have 50, 60 cars, and this is the 1st Saturday of the month. And it's free for the car, to put your car into it because I used to put my, the 50 Chevy truck into it, and it's free for the spectators. It's just a get together. You know, they have cars, but there's no entrance fee.
[00:33:49] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, yeah. And most of the ones I've been to are like that, you know, which is cool. Yes. And it's like that's like down here. There's for the spectators, there is no entrance fee.
[00:34:03] Duuude-Ron :
Well, shit. The whole damn fucking highway is the fucking goddamn spectator. Right. Right. You know?
[00:34:12] Rich Chelson:
No. And and he's yeah. No. It just I I mean, I was just sitting there. I was amazed. You know? I would you know, I'd actually start because say they all left the house early today because I had a I had a a physical therapy appointment this afternoon, and it's like, well, shit. I'm gonna be over by Biloxi and freaking freaking. My hell. Hell. Let me go to Hobby Lobby. It's a wrong fucking answer. Do not let me go to Hobby Lobby.
[00:34:45] Bryan Goodwin:
You as bad as my wife.
[00:34:47] Rich Chelson:
A 126 fucking dollars later?
[00:34:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. You're as bad as my wife.
[00:34:53] Rich Chelson:
I come walking out of Hobby Lobby. Oh my god. I I was I I I was I I've got I've got 2 paintings because last weekend, they had what was called Zonta, and I didn't know what it was. But down here, Zonta is like a arts and crafts festival.
[00:35:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:35:18] Rich Chelson:
They have live music vendors and all in you know? And, so in my, my neighbor told me about it. He said, dude, you gotta go check it out. I said, alright. Now what the hell? I'll do that. You know? Saturday, I didn't give a fuck. And I I go down over there, and I was actually shocked. I found a park, a place to park fairly close. And so I was walking up, and when I come up, this this first vendor, I I saw, he had some paintings on these tables, on these plastic tables. Nice. Different paintings, you know, mainly of the marine life boats and stuff like that from down here. Right? Well, come to find out, he's a a Navy Seabee, and he me and him me and him got to talking about military and stuff like that. Well, he said his wife, paints these pictures and everything. I'm like, really? He's like, yeah. And so, I wound up buying 2 that I liked. There was there was, like, 3 I was looking at, but these 2 I bought, I was I was I was liking.
[00:36:41] Bryan Goodwin:
So,
[00:36:43] Rich Chelson:
I bought them, brought them home. One's a 12 by 18, one's 11 by 14. And the 12 by 18, trying to find a frame for a print is hard.
[00:36:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You gotta go do custom frames.
[00:36:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well so that's why I wound up at Hobby Lobby. And I didn't take the the, painting with me because, you know, I was naked, and I didn't I didn't wanna hurt the Jeep. And so
[00:37:13] Duuude-Ron :
You just want you just wanna hurt everybody else.
[00:37:17] Rich Chelson:
What do you mean?
[00:37:19] Bryan Goodwin:
You run around naked. Around naked.
[00:37:22] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know what? They was all smiling, so I must be doing something right.
[00:37:29] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? I, you know, I just I don't believe you. But you driving around naked? No. No. But Nope. Alright. But, anyway
[00:37:40] Rich Chelson:
But So you know I I in the lobby? Yeah. I was in Hobby Lobby and then, was a was a back there by the frames. Got talking with, the guy back there. Come to find out he's a fucking tanker. So so me and him got to talking about the army and, like the Abrams, one zero nines and all that shit. And then and then when and then we finally got talking about frames and everything like this. So next week, when I go to physical therapy, I'm gonna have to take my 12 by 18 in and, you know, see if they have the style wood or the color wood I want in stock. And then, hopefully, he can make the frame on the spot.
[00:38:38] Duuude-Ron :
Right. So you spend a $126 at Hobby Lobby. You go and spend another $126 at Hobby Lobby.
[00:38:50] Rich Chelson:
Probably. Yeah. Because next well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how much a frame's gonna cost me next week. I mean, I hope I don't I I'm no. I I was not planning but but, see, I was after I got talking done talking with the tanker guy, I got to looking around, and, I found me some I found me 3 jigsaw puzzles. I found me a calendar. Say I found me some hard candy. Found me a a cool looking towel bar and a cool looking, toilet paper holder for the bathroom even though I already have those, but they was half off. So they was it's so so so I could rationalize it in my head. Oh. I was gonna say, so you could justify the purchase
[00:39:45] Duuude-Ron :
if they were half off a marked up price to get you impressed to buy something that you already had one of that was just a little bit nicer maybe. It looks like we lost
[00:40:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We lost Brian.
[00:40:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So we could just continue on. But, of course, you know, did you get any, Halloween decorations for the house?
[00:40:19] Rich Chelson:
No. Thought about it.
[00:40:21] Duuude-Ron :
Thought about it. I bet you did. I bet you did. I purchased a lot of fucking Halloween decorations from Hobby Lobby in the past.
[00:40:29] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. See, that's the thing. I I mean, Halloween is not normally my jam. The fall, Thanksgiving, Christmas, that's normally my jam. You know? I that's I like that a lot. But Yeah. That the thing is, though, this year is, like, I don't I don't really know if I wanna do anything.
[00:40:54] Duuude-Ron :
Right. No. I understand.
[00:40:56] Rich Chelson:
Kinda want to because I actually have the room to do something. You know? Yeah. But thing is, though, it's like, shit. It's just me. So it's like, what?
[00:41:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:41:09] Rich Chelson:
I'm gonna spend all this money just to make me happy? Why don't I save this money and make me happy?
[00:41:19] Duuude-Ron :
Listen. Because you just had to go to Hobby Lobby and find something that was 50% off of a marked up price to buy something to make you feel happy when you could've saved the money, been just as happy from what you just said. Right. Of course, I'm trying to be the, of course, I'm trying to be the devil's fucking advocate here. And then you got yourself some jigsaw puzzles. When you get done with the jigsaw puzzles, do you plan on getting some, like, what the, what the fuck do they call it? The the lamination and laminate the back of the jigsaw puzzle and then put that in the frame?
These here,
[00:42:09] Rich Chelson:
yes. I am thinking about doing that this time because these are I I got I got 31,000 piece puzzles. I I don't do 500 or 300. I do I do 1,000 or nothing. And I've done I've done puzzles, had them all completed, but I've never saved them or I've lost a piece or whatnot. So this time this time, I know I can I can I can complete this whole puzzle, and I've never framed one? I've seen them framed, and they look okay. They look good.
[00:42:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. They look nice. You know? I know. It yeah. It's a it's a puzzle, but Mhmm. That was your accomplishment to finish the puzzle.
[00:42:54] Rich Chelson:
Exactly. And so and so yeah. Yeah. I am thinking about getting because I got puzzle glue, and you basically, squirt it on top, rub it in, let it dry, flip it over, squirt it again on the back, rub it in, let it dry, and then frame it. So but yeah.
[00:43:19] Duuude-Ron :
Never heard of that.
[00:43:21] Rich Chelson:
That's what they say they do.
[00:43:23] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, I've never heard of puzzle glue. That's something completely new to me. Really? Okay. Yeah. But I'm sure it it works.
[00:43:33] Rich Chelson:
No. It does. I mean, I don't know. I mean, honestly, I've never tried it. So but I would
[00:43:38] Duuude-Ron :
my myself, I would take, like, map lamination and cover the back of it so you definitely know that the pieces ain't gonna fucking move.
[00:43:51] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:43:51] Duuude-Ron :
Once you get once you get them sandwich well and once you get them sandwiched in a frame, but it depends on how big that is as well.
[00:44:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, see though you see, that's the thing now. I think I think this is why they say do the top of it because the glue dries clear.
[00:44:09] Duuude-Ron :
You know?
[00:44:11] Rich Chelson:
So so this is why they say do the top of it and glue it so so it gets down in there and holds everything together so you can flip it over. And in the back, you got the back glue, gluing on the back is just like, extra security.
[00:44:29] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. So I don't know. I've I've never heard of it. And, you know, hey. Probably a great thing because, yeah, there's a I'm sure that there's a lot of prints of puzzles that would look beautiful in a frame. Oh, yeah. Now now do I have any? No.
[00:44:49] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:44:50] Duuude-Ron :
No. I I don't, but I've seen them as well. And, you know, there's some out there that look very nice.
[00:44:56] Rich Chelson:
Well, and see, you see, that's the thing. You know? I'm I mean, one, I've I've always liked puzzles. I've always liked doing puzzles. Right? And sometimes puzzles allow me to, get out of my head. So I I thought and and, I mean, I'm not really in my head anymore, but still, it's just nice to have a somewhat of a distraction because doing a puzzle, you're just concentrating on that puzzle.
[00:45:29] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Very true. Yeah. Very true.
[00:45:32] Rich Chelson:
So it's just like so so I'm like, you know and these here, down here, they were only, like, $19 a pop, which, yeah, is a little pricey, but it's not as pricey as they could be.
[00:45:46] Duuude-Ron :
You're right. What's the size of them?
[00:45:51] Rich Chelson:
See, I'm not a 100% sure yet on this one because it didn't say the finished size on the box.
[00:45:57] Duuude-Ron :
So Really?
[00:45:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I don't know if it's a 8 by 10 or a 11 by 14. I don't I don't think it's any bigger than an 11 by 14.
[00:46:10] Duuude-Ron :
For a 1,000 pieces, 11 by 14? Man, those pieces gotta be fucking small.
[00:46:17] Rich Chelson:
No. These are actually pretty big. I mean, this thing might be bigger. I don't know, dude. Like I said, I was I was I was looking on the box because I had seen on some puzzles, on the box, it'll tell you the finished size.
[00:46:32] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Exactly.
[00:46:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? But, Yeah. I couldn't find the finished size, so I guess okay. Well, I'm gonna put it together, and I'll figure it out that way.
[00:46:42] Duuude-Ron :
I bet I bet you it's a 24 by 36 for a 1000 pieces. Yeah. It'd very much be probably I bet you it's probably about a 20
[00:46:52] Rich Chelson:
or 20 by 30 or something like that. Right. Which which yeah. That yeah. That'd be fine. That's that's a good size too. Yeah. And and, something else I learned today. Remember how how back in the day, seeing 8 by 10 was that was the size to have. Right?
[00:47:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:47:13] Rich Chelson:
Now it now it's not now. The, most common size now is 11 by 14.
[00:47:20] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Yep. Oh, I yeah.
[00:47:26] Rich Chelson:
11 by 14 is is the most common size. Yeah. So Okay. Yeah. I was I was I was actually I was actually kinda shocked that because, shit, I remember growing up. Man, it it I was thinking, 50 by 10 was was yeah. You was in the in in the cotton there.
[00:47:49] Duuude-Ron :
No kidding. Same way with televisions for that matter. You know, if you had a 27 inch television, that was big shit.
[00:47:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god, dude. You were fucking rich.
[00:48:00] Duuude-Ron :
It yeah. And now a 27 inch television? You fucking did. Hell, I got a 50 inch television.
[00:48:11] Rich Chelson:
Right. And and and the thing is, 5th, well, 30 twos are going for, like, 70, $80. Forties are going for, like, right at a 100. Fifties are going just a little over a 100. You know? So yeah. Hey. Yeah. It's crazy how how you know? I mean,
[00:48:36] Duuude-Ron :
well Yeah. Now they're up to fucking 80, 90. Yeah. A 100 inches.
[00:48:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, I think I think once you hit 85 after that, I think you have to go to a projector.
[00:48:50] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:48:52] Rich Chelson:
Which which I mean, they've got 4 k projectors, dude.
[00:48:58] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. But it all depends on how the wall is. Right. You know? It's yeah. I and pictures in general. You know? Okay. 10:40. You know? What what all the other k is is like, you know, I don't know what my television is, but, you know, it views just fine. You know, I get all the RGB colors. You you know?
[00:49:30] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see with the 4 k versus the 10 80 p and stuff, say up. Say a 10 80 p is good quality. Okay? But when you step up into 4 k, QLED, QNED, all those, all these higher resolutions, people, you will notice a difference. It'll be not 3 d, but it'll be like, the people just are freaking so real. You can almost touch them. That's the difference between 10 80p and, 4 k resolution.
[00:50:13] Duuude-Ron :
Thing. And see, I don't know what I don't know what my TV is. You know, it's I've had it now for fucking it's a VIZIO, so that tells you my budget.
[00:50:24] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, no. It's it's a good brand, dude.
[00:50:28] Duuude-Ron :
This is a brand. I mean, I've I've And I've we've had it now for freaking
[00:50:34] Rich Chelson:
12 years, some shit like that. It's Oh, yeah. Yeah. 1080p is high. It still will do. Because Oh, okay. They, they, they didn't have, 4 k then.
[00:50:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. But And you know what? It just used just fine. As long as I don't throw the fucking remote at it and, you know, crack the fucking screen, you know, I'm I'm I'm
[00:51:00] Rich Chelson:
fine. Right. Right. But yeah. No. And that's you see, that's the thing. It's it I'd say a 4 k TV just, basically makes it look more lifelike, like you're there, whether it's a movie or a TV show or baseball game, football game, whatever.
[00:51:22] Duuude-Ron :
I would fucking rather be there than here. That's for damn sure.
[00:51:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, the thing is also with the newer TVs, if, if your if your phone does it, you could take a video on your phone and cast it to your TV.
[00:51:49] Duuude-Ron :
And that is absolutely great. I will probably never do that. Right. Just because I can watch it on my phone and you know? But I don't do a lot of videos just like I don't hardly do any pictures of me.
[00:52:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, see, that's like that's like with these pictures that I have on my phone, that I took with my camera. I had downloaded the pictures to my phone, and I tied my phone to my TV. And I brought the pictures up on the TV. Yeah. I can see them pictures a whole lot better.
[00:52:33] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah.
[00:52:34] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. Well well, you know me too. I'm I'm I'm very anal about my pictures. They they have to look just right. I mean, I'm not as I'm not as hard as I used to be a couple years ago, but I'm still hard on my pictures, on myself, really.
[00:52:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, yeah, who's always who's gonna be your worst critic ever?
[00:53:00] Rich Chelson:
You or me? Yourself. Yeah. Yourself. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. No. It's but yeah. No. Like I said, I went to Hobby Lobby, and then I just went cruising fucking for a good hour, hour and a half. And then I, went to, another thrift store and killed about 45 minutes there, and then the, then I went to my, physical therapy appointment.
[00:53:31] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:53:33] Rich Chelson:
So and then and then I came home because I'm tired. I I ain't gonna lie. I am freaking exhausted today.
[00:53:44] Duuude-Ron :
I did quite a bit. Yeah. But
[00:53:50] Rich Chelson:
I'm not sure I'm not sure, what I'm gonna do tomorrow because, say tomorrow night is when they have the, the, Willie's Gassers,
[00:54:01] Duuude-Ron :
drag racing. You better fucking go to that.
[00:54:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I gotta yeah. I need to find out about tickets and everything for that.
[00:54:17] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I'm sure you could could go to the track and yeah. I'm sure you just go to the track and buy them. You know? But if you miss that, the next time I see you, I will kick you in a fucking dick for missing that. Right. Because you were because you were that stupid.
[00:54:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I it's yeah. I need to I need to actually I need to go there because that that'd be freaking awesome.
[00:54:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Hell, yeah. If I was there, I would fucking be at the gas or drags. Hell, yeah.
[00:55:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That because, it's not saying how much it is, and I know it costs to get in.
[00:55:09] Duuude-Ron :
I'll find out. Yeah. I'm sure it's probably 12, $15, something like that. Yeah. Probably so. But see, like like me, whenever if I have the funds available, you know, anytime the sprint cars come down to the heart of Texas Speedway up in Elmont, I will definitely be at the fucking sprint car races. That's for sure. Right. Now they have now they have their normal, you know, all the rest of the cars that they race every week. But, yeah, I go for the sprint cars. I don't know if you've ever been to a sprint car race. Uh-huh. Know what cars are?
[00:55:52] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know. I'm Okay. Yeah. I know what sprint cars are. I've I've never seen one.
[00:55:58] Duuude-Ron :
But, really? Yeah. Holy shit. Now that is some racing. Now because you have stock cars, you have the IMCA modifieds, you know, that's a frame, and then you put your paneling around the frame and so on like that. But the sprint cars, you know, you gotta the only thing you've got is a frame, a big block motor, 4 tires, a driver, and 2 wings. Them things will fucking scoot. And I mean, oh my God. Yes. I've seen them to where they are only 3 wheels on the ground all the way around the track because that's how much torque they're putting down on the track with those cars.
Right. Yeah. That and their alcohol. What is it? Alcohol, methane? Something like that mix. Oh, the smell of that? Man, that is excitement. Just like the just like the gassers, you will fucking find yourself with a lot of enjoyment going to that because that's something you thoroughly enjoy. Right. And, if you miss it, like I said, I will fucking and I find out that you miss it, I will kick you in a fucking dick. No. Because you would have been a dumbass. Right. Because you wanna go and see them.
[00:57:32] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, and, it's like like that. Say say, I don't know if you saw that root beer colored gasser that I, put in the chat last night when we talked.
[00:57:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. He's yeah. Wait. Yep. Do me a favor and put it in Do me a favor and put that in the chat again because I don't remember seeing that the gasser.
[00:57:57] Rich Chelson:
Alright. Hang on a second. Okay. Give me just a bit. Yeah. No. Because, yeah, this old boy come come rolling in, and I I just freaking freaking heard him. And I knew he was he was, I mean, dude was ready. And then and then and then then I got up close by his car and looked at the motor in the car, and I'm like, that motherfucker's here to race. I mean, it's I'm not sure I'm not sure what size motor he has, but he's blown. I do know that, too far back. No. No. No. No. No. I'm not. Oh, no. Hadn't gone far enough. There he is.
Yeah. This and this car is just let's see. K. Hang on here. So
[00:59:17] Duuude-Ron :
So what's what's one of the most outrageous, say, a rat rod that you've seen thus far at this event?
[00:59:29] Rich Chelson:
There's actually a couple. They've got some old pickup trucks, and and I need to check I need to check, Google Photos. Check the chat. There's there's the car. I'll let me bring the shot of the motor up.
[00:59:50] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. You didn't send that last night.
[00:59:57] Rich Chelson:
See, I thought I did.
[01:00:03] Duuude-Ron :
It's Oh, yeah. Was it did you ask him what he's running in the rear end if it's 12 or 15 by twelves or 15 by fifteens?
[01:00:13] Rich Chelson:
No. I didn't I didn't, get to talk to him because there was, there was I mean, there was people coming up talking to him, and and my my legs were hurting so freaking bad. There's there's a side shot of his motor that he's running. Might be a 383 that's in there or something. I'm not sure, but, yeah, he's blown.
[01:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
Running through Oh, yeah. That's a running 3 inch what?
[01:00:45] Rich Chelson:
Three inch headers.
[01:00:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:00:50] Rich Chelson:
With cutouts. Well, that's I mean, it's straight pipe, really.
[01:00:55] Duuude-Ron :
Well yeah. But did did you get to see it, running at all?
[01:01:00] Rich Chelson:
I heard him drive it in. Oh, yeah. Did you?
[01:01:03] Duuude-Ron :
Fuck. Yeah. That one's motherfucker?
[01:01:08] Rich Chelson:
It was it was loud enough. He was he was, he wasn't romping on it. So so he was, you know, he was loud, but he wasn't as loud as he could be.
[01:01:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I'm sure it's not I'm sure idling, he was sitting at probably about, what, 90 decibels, and if he kicked it on, he was sitting at about a 130. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Running 3 running 3 inch with a 44 inch collective. Yeah. And then he's want he's running a, 671 wheel blower. And I think I can't tell if those I can't tell if those are Demons, Edelbrox. Or Holly's? Yeah. I, I They look like they look like demons, and I had a demon 650 on my pickup truck. And you talk about sucking
[01:02:13] Bryan Goodwin:
gas? Oh my god. Now,
[01:02:19] Rich Chelson:
this one, yeah. He yeah. Yeah. Well, see, I'm not sure if those were demons because he's running 2 of them. I Yeah. Very well
[01:02:29] Duuude-Ron :
very well But see, the the if you look at the, the back of the carburetors, and it has the, the, fluid level windows Right. On the backs. That's what the demons had.
[01:02:47] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. But
[01:02:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. Bet you go through 6 fifties.
[01:02:54] Rich Chelson:
Very well could be. That a that a that a third picture I put in chat, That's not the most radical. I need I I need to be in the right lane when I get up to this area so I can get pictures of couple more trucks like that that are even more radical than that one is, but that one was just cool as shit. Yeah. Because it seems like whenever I go down there, I forget where these trucks are parked at normally. And so I I wind up. I'm in the wrong lane. And then by the time I get turned around,
[01:03:31] Bryan Goodwin:
squirrel,
[01:03:32] Rich Chelson:
I go off look at something else. Yeah. So, you know, it's it's like and then I see them, and it's like, fuck. It's like, damn it. So but yeah. I mean I mean, now the the first two pictures I sent, I took on Sunday, and this this one, I just I just post put in a chat was taken today. And, I mean Oh. These cars have been here. I mean, they're they're, they're still here. So but, yeah, it's just because there are just so many cars that you're not gonna see all of them no matter how hard you try.
[01:04:14] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. Now when you said that there's 8,800 plus registered.
[01:04:22] Rich Chelson:
Right. Participants.
[01:04:25] Duuude-Ron :
Right. For the to the event as as a whole. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would love to go down to Yale. I will definitely try try. Keyword, try.
[01:04:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, it'll be
[01:04:44] Duuude-Ron :
get down there next year.
[01:04:46] Rich Chelson:
Well, it'll be in October, dude. And it's it's a week long. So Well You'll come down for one day, 2 days, or all week. You know?
[01:04:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, I would come down for the whole fucking week.
[01:05:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, man. Yeah. You would oh, dude. You would just yeah. You would shit. I I mean, I do. I'm you know, I'm sitting here riding around with top off doors off, you know, got music going. I'm just sitting there just, like, trying not to drool all over these cars, you know, afraid you know, I gotta keep wiping my mouth because the wind's blowing, so I'm afraid it'll blow my drool on the car. God forbid. I can't afford one of them paint jobs.
[01:05:29] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, or blow drool steering wheel and then
[01:05:35] Rich Chelson:
What's that?
[01:05:37] Duuude-Ron :
You say you drool on the steering wheel, trolled the jeep because you got too much damn drool on the steering wheel.
[01:05:45] Rich Chelson:
Right. But yeah. I know. And they've got a, they've got a suit. A lot of them cars are for sale down there too, man.
[01:06:00] Duuude-Ron :
I just wanna I just wanna 29 through 31 Ford pickup truck. That's what I want.
[01:06:07] Rich Chelson:
You could probably find one for sale down here.
[01:06:10] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I'm sure I could I find them, you know, for sale all the time. There's only one slight problem with that.
[01:06:19] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:06:20] Duuude-Ron :
I got a I got a, wine man's taste and a instant coffee man's pocketbook. I can't afford a beer. You know? I can't afford, you know, spirits. Can't afford regular coffee, so it's fine man's, instant coffee budget.
[01:06:53] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:06:55] Duuude-Ron :
You know, like I said, maybe 1 year. I bet you Brian right now is so fucking pissed off.
[01:07:06] Rich Chelson:
Did he text you?
[01:07:08] Duuude-Ron :
No. He hasn't nothing.
[01:07:10] Rich Chelson:
I haven't gotten anything from him. Okay. Well, he's he, he, had to take a phone call. So Oh, okay. That's why that's why he dropped out. Oh. Yeah. I mean, he's either way, it's it's it's Oh. Not sure what it is, but, yeah, either way, it's, Yeah. He's he is, dealing with something. So yeah. But, yeah, other than that, I mean, it was it was it was actually a cool day today. I mean, the weather was just absolutely beautiful. It was, like, low eighties, low to mid eighties. Hell, right now it's saying it's 68.
[01:07:55] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? We are back up into the fucking mid to upper nineties.
[01:08:00] Rich Chelson:
No way, dude. Really? Yes way.
[01:08:03] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. We will be in the fucking upper nineties through the weekend. Mhmm. And this is already mid fucking October. Granted, I don't like the fucking cold. No. I fucking hate the cold. Yeah. I kinda like your view and the cold. Yeah. Yeah. We just don't fucking mix. But the older I fucking get, man, I tell you what, the fucking heat doesn't like me either. Goddamn. And then mid October in the fucking high nineties.
[01:08:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:08:43] Duuude-Ron :
If I wanted that, I'd go down to fucking Turks and Tay Tay or what is it? Turks and Caicos Island. If I want that fucking shit in, you know, October, November, December, I'll go down to the fucking Caribbean. Right. Right.
[01:08:58] Rich Chelson:
And now you see, that's the thing. This this summer down here, oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. You walked out. You didn't sweat. You fucking melted. I mean, as soon as you walked out, you fucking melted. Right? And and Yeah. But but I kept telling myself I ain't cold, so that's fine. I'll melt. And then and now, like, I think here in the next couple days, I think the low is supposed to be, like, 59, 58 or 59, and I'm like, yeah. I don't know about all that yet. You know, I'm not I'm not used to it. But, in the mornings, it's been, like, you know, in the mid sixties, mid to high sixties, which is nice. But I'm well, yeah, tomorrow morning or no. Saturday morning, the low is supposed to be 59.
But, you know, I'm thinking, yeah, I ain't going anywhere in the Jeep, not first thing in the morning. I would I would Well, that I I would freeze my gonads
[01:10:02] Duuude-Ron :
off. That would just You think?
[01:10:06] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I do. No. It's
[01:10:09] Duuude-Ron :
awfully goddamn. Them things would be awfully goddamn tiny. Now I have gone with doors. Now I don't rarely I rarely take my top off just because it's so fucking cumbersome to get that sum of each on and off by myself. But going doors off, yeah, and fucking 50 yeah. It's a it's a wee bit chilly. Yeah. When we went out to where the fuck do we go? Out to Utah, Moab. Uh-huh. Oh, what was it? Few years ago. There was a couple days that yeah. Because I like to wheel without the doors on so I can see a lot more of what the hell is going on around me with the fucking Jeep and what I'm what obstacle I'm fixing to get into. Yeah. I was like, pair of shorts then a pair of jeans.
A fucking, short sleeve shirt then a long sleeve shirt then my hoodie and then my fucking winter jacket.
[01:11:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:11:13] Duuude-Ron :
Because there was still there I can't remember the name of the trail, but it goes to this lookout point that it drops a 1000 feet at least straight down. There's no barriers. You drive up on this rock, and I don't remember like I said, I don't remember the name of the trail. But when we got up there in spring break, mid March, there was fucking still snow up there on that fucking trail.
[01:11:42] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't doubt it, dude. I don't doubt it. But So had to say that By getting there?
[01:11:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It was just a wee bit brisk.
[01:11:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Just yeah. Yeah. I got you. Just a
[01:11:55] Duuude-Ron :
just a little bit.
[01:11:57] Rich Chelson:
But oh, that that a lift I got for for the top of my Jeep?
[01:12:03] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:12:04] Rich Chelson:
Tell you what, that's the best $400 I have spent.
[01:12:09] Duuude-Ron :
I'm sure.
[01:12:10] Rich Chelson:
It it it makes things a whole lot easier and quicker. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I was once I once I got everything you know, once I got it figured out because it's it's actually made for a 4 door Jeep, and I've got to do it just a little differently to make it work for a 2 door, but it's, I mean, it's not hard. You know? It's just moving, you know, you know, you know, moving it around. But, yeah, I I can lift the top off, pull it right off, and I leave it suspended. And then I, when I wanna put it back on, I un unlock the wheels and I roll it back into place, pull the brake, and then lower it down right right on, and it sits. Right? I'm like, man, this is nice.
[01:13:07] Duuude-Ron :
Well, since you got a 2 door, you don't have Freedom Panels over your driver's seat and passenger's seat, do you?
[01:13:12] Rich Chelson:
Just driver's seat.
[01:13:15] Duuude-Ron :
You got Freedom Panel? Yes.
[01:13:18] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yeah. Wow. I've got yeah. I've got Freedom Panels, but but they're just over the driver's seat.
[01:13:29] Duuude-Ron :
Wow. I have never seen I have never seen that. But, of course, my TJ, when I had the hardtop on it, it was the whole top was 1 p. Yeah. Yeah. But and the 4 doors, you know, you got the freedom panels above the driver and pat front driver and passenger, you know, kinda like a big freaking sunroof. Now how often do I take those off? Rarely ever.
[01:13:55] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. And see and see that's yeah. See, this thing, you know, with 9 yeah. I pull, yeah, I pull the Freedom Panels off, and they're just I mean, they're small. Fair I mean, really small, really.
[01:14:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:14:09] Rich Chelson:
They're they're rectangle. I'd say, shit, 24 by 20,
[01:14:19] Duuude-Ron :
if that. Yeah. Okay. Uh-huh.
[01:14:22] Rich Chelson:
No. That's about right. But, yeah, I pulled it off and, and then pull the doors off and then 6 bolts. And Yep. Pop that hatch off, and it's out. It's gone. I'm dry I'm driving naked. I love it. Yeah.
[01:14:42] Duuude-Ron :
Shit. I have to to take my hardtop off, I gotta do 4, 5, 6, 12 volts.
[01:14:53] Rich Chelson:
Why 12?
[01:14:55] Duuude-Ron :
Because I have them also across. No. Do I? You sure? I don't remember.
[01:15:03] Rich Chelson:
Because Brett Brit's Jeep or a 2010, only had 6 like mine. 3 on each side.
[01:15:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Holding the back. Yeah. Yeah. I think I have bolts holding up the front that go into the fucking, roll cage.
[01:15:28] Rich Chelson:
You you should have those, big pins that that, come out of the freedom panels.
[01:15:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That might be it. I don't fucking remember. Like I said, I've only taken that top off. I've had it now for, what, 4 years? I've taken the hard top off once in the whole time of owning that Jeep. No. Yeah. Took it off once. And when I took it off, that is the first time that we ran no. I've taken it off twice. I'm sorry. When we the very first tiers Tiers event was up in birds. Yeah. I took it off then because we were told that the trails were so narrow because it wasn't Jeep trails. It was side by side in 4 wheeler trailers trail.
You know? So I'll be damned if I'm gonna fucking tear up a $3,035100 hardtop. Right. I don't fucking think so. And, and then I took it off one time when we were at, the very first time that we went to, Oklahoma. Yeah. K River. If I didn't know what the trails were gonna be like, those are the only two times my top has ever been off of my Jeep.
[01:16:56] Rich Chelson:
Wow. I did not know that.
[01:17:00] Duuude-Ron :
But, of course, I don't have and it's fucking hard for one person to take that fucking hardtop off if you don't have, like, what you bought. You know, trying to get that fucking hardtop off is that's motherfucking yeah. Hard as hell.
[01:17:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's yeah. It's heavy. Because a 4 door well, mine, say, mine weighs about a £160. The 4 doors is about the same, I guess, or maybe a little less because it's not as long. But still, either way, it's it's it's it's so freaking awkward and just there is there is no good place to balance it, to to get it even up there to start, you know, start it, you know, to get up them rails.
[01:17:57] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I would if I were you, I would add a couple of, points for tie down for tie downs.
[01:18:08] Rich Chelson:
For what?
[01:18:10] Duuude-Ron :
To, well, just strap it around the top to just secure it a little bit better.
[01:18:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, on the on the lift? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I can do that.
[01:18:26] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, it's never made, but Yeah. Just to add yourself a couple of secure down points.
[01:18:32] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, I could I could strap it right there to the lift itself. Yeah. You know, it's just I mean, it's just some you know, just in case the wind kicks up.
[01:18:43] Duuude-Ron :
Exactly. Or you hit a bump with that thing and the so just so the top doesn't fall off because even a 2 door chop is fucking $3,000. Right. Fucking cheap. That's for damn sure. And but is yours black, or is it color coordinated to the rest of the Jeep?
[01:19:02] Rich Chelson:
It's, black. Matte black.
[01:19:05] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Mine's color coded to the rest of the Jeep, same way with my Freedom Panels. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not no. I'm not gonna fucking bust that and have to spend $3,03500 for a new fucking hardtop. No. Thank you. The fucking payment alone are fucking killing me. But, you know, that's what I chose. Right. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. I only have, what, 8 more 8 or 9 more months, I think.
[01:19:40] Rich Chelson:
That's cool.
[01:19:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Hell, yeah.
[01:19:46] Rich Chelson:
That'll save you a few pennies.
[01:19:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. 800 plus. Right. But that's that's what I wanted to finance it at because so I could get it paid off sooner, but it's still fucking was $55100. Or Yeah. Yeah. 55,000. Excuse me.
[01:20:10] Rich Chelson:
Damn.
[01:20:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. 50,000 for the Jeep and then 5,000 for, you know, the the warranty and, you know, tax, title, and license, and all that other good shit. Yeah. 55,000. Damn. Yep. And then, of course, you know, then you add in another few thousand for the lift, the tires, the rims.
[01:20:33] Rich Chelson:
The axles and all that. Yeah.
[01:20:36] Duuude-Ron :
Well, thank goodness I have the Rubicon. So I already got 4 what do I have? 480 threes with the electric lockers, which I'm thankful that I have. Right. You know, so I don't ever have to I'll never have to invest in axles, because they're Dana 40 fours. Nice. So I'm already I'm already good there with 483 gearing in it. So I got the gearing that I want overall, and I'll never have to touch that. But hell, when I bent the freaking drag link and the, tie rod, that was fucking $1200 just in parts. Right. But they will never bend again.
If if something happens, I will break the fucking heim joint or I'll fucking bend or break a bracket. But those but the tie rod ain't gonna freaking bend. That is, like, it's freaking real thick walled steel for those.
[01:21:49] Rich Chelson:
That's the way to have it is, you know, especially with with, the way you, wheel.
[01:21:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The way I wheel. Yeah. Yes. The way I like the wheel. That is correct. Right.
[01:22:02] Rich Chelson:
Brian, are you good?
[01:22:04] Bryan Goodwin:
I am back, finally. Yeah. Sorry.
[01:22:07] Rich Chelson:
You're fine.
[01:22:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Just that. Yeah. Mother-in-law had, had questions about the, the relationship, debacle that has that has been ensuing since, since the end of July. So Oh, okay. So she was like she had some thought she had some thoughts and she was like she was wanting to throw those past me, and I was like, oh, you know, it's this, this, and this. And so, you know, it was just Yeah. Just a, just a a lot longer conversation than I thought. Because usually, she just asked a couple, 3 questions. I answer them. She was like, alright. Well, that's all I needed to know. Like,
[01:22:47] Duuude-Ron :
what?
[01:22:48] Rich Chelson:
And it's like, you know what? Any other night, I I would I would talk to you more, but I'm busy.
[01:22:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I'm so I'm I'm
[01:23:00] Rich Chelson:
Never yeah. It never fails. You know? And and that's the thing, you know, when you tell people I'm podcasting, they're like, And they just got done listening to whatever podcast they were listening to. And they're like, what? You're you're doing what? I'm a fucking podcaster. So What's that?
[01:23:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh my god. But now it was, just main reason why I took it norm I was kinda contemplating on not taking it, but at the same time, I was like, she never calls me unless it's something something that needs to be talked about. So Right. Yeah. And no. It's just it was something I could've actually waited till tomorrow. But, you know, it is what it is what it is, and it's good to talk to her. I know. I I'm one of those that actually likes my mother-in-law. She's she's an actually a cool lady. So
[01:23:53] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's good. That is that is really good.
[01:23:57] Bryan Goodwin:
So now so What? I got okay. Now February. For for those who who who are just listening, that's a needle pulling thread, actually, sewing. Those who weren't on the, on the the veteran call last night, which every Wednesday night, 7 o'clock, if you're a vet, we got veteran call. And, you're welcome. You just have to send me me, or or Rich a a an email. You can get a hold of me at, CircleCast. That's circle and a cast, as in, like, how goofy casts a fishing rod. Circle cast atgmail.comorrchelson, and that's [email protected].
And let them know let us know that you wanna be a part of the vet call, and, we'll, get you added in there. This is for veterans just to be able to sit around and hang out with veterans. Well, last night was a light a light night. We had a, had one of our, one of our esteemed well esteemed, vets come on and, give us an update about his life. But, he was, needing to go to bed early. So once he got finished going to bed, we had a very spirited debate about about, the the me and the business because right now, honestly, guys, when it comes to relaxed mail, I'm not producing much in the way of money. I'm wanting to produce more. But I have an, I had an an apostrophe today.
[01:25:32] Duuude-Ron :
You had an apostrophe?
[01:25:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I had an apostrophe today.
[01:25:37] Duuude-Ron :
Apoprophe. Not an not an epiphany, but an apostrophe.
[01:25:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. An apostrophe.
[01:25:44] Duuude-Ron :
Well, shit. Let's fucking hear your apostrophe.
[01:25:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, anyhow, okay. I'm still going I'm still working on the whole men's relationship, helping men to who want to have a better relationship. I'm still that is the main my main target. That's who I am still helping overall. But the fun thing is about and to everybody who's listening, I'll let you in on a little secret. The Yeah. Secret? Coaching All the coaching skills can be applied to any niche out there. Alright? Whether you're doing business coaching, whether you're doing personal coaching, you're just doing life coaching, you're doing relationship coaching, you're doing, you know, you know, underwater basket weaving coaching.
It's all uses the same skills. And the and the key part of that is the coach actually doesn't know the answers. And I know a lot of people going, what? Your mistake and a lot of people who think we're supposed to know all the answers, those are the people who assume coaching is consulting. And no, we don't have all the tools and and and strategies. You have all those. And that's what we actually coach on is we coach you through your mind. And coach, you just so that you change how you're looking at the world, how you're looking at whatever the circumstances. So what I actually was, today, I was riding along. And there's a podcast that always has some little nugget of just chef's kiss knowledge.
And it's a gal named Lindsey Dotzlaw. And today, she had an interview with, one of the coaches that she has in in her little program. And she was talk and her friend was talking about one of the things she actually had to do, and this is the moment that came along. This is what I believe was God knocking me on the shoulder going, do this. And not so much, you know, divine intervention, and, you know, beam came down, doves come flying, or anything like that. It's just, you know, one of those where, oh, okay. Hey, that's an idea. I struggle with finding men who wanna have, wanna have coaching.
But this lady actually set up a program where she did just basic life coaching as a benefit for other companies. And that's kinda where I'm like, oh, there you go. Why not start talking to different companies and seeing if they would be willing to bring on a coat as a for the for their employee benefits. Right. So the employees could come along and say, yeah. Alright. For, you know, for 3 months, we you get, you get a weekly 1 hour, coaching session, from me, and and, we you know, we'll go from go from there. And at the end of, at the end of the, the 3 months, you know, if you wanna keep going, alright, then, you know or maybe the, maybe the company says, oh, no. We're only doing 3 months at a time in a, in, say, like a, in a in a 180 day period? Or so you can,
[01:29:52] Rich Chelson:
you know, you can Well, you can start out with with the company,
[01:29:56] Bryan Goodwin:
you know, for the 3 months. Have the have the company pay for it if they will. Oh, no. That's that's that's And now what exactly what I was thinking. I was like, have them have them do you know, if a if a person wants to do it, alright, sweet, it's set a price, whatever
[01:30:15] Rich Chelson:
for, for 3 months. Yeah. And then and then after that, it could be up to the person to continue the coaching or, you know, if the company wanted to hire you again, they could, you know, for the same person. I mean But but yeah. But since it would be like a, like a,
[01:30:33] Bryan Goodwin:
since it would be a benefit, it could be. And Lexi's, my daughter's, company that she works for, the eye doctor, they actually allow her to do, to do I think it's 1 month of coaching Really? For free, once every and a and a I forget exactly what the set number of, set period is. Right. And so you can go she could go through. She's the and does can do the coaching, and she so, you know, there's that opportunity, and she's already burned through her through her month for the, for the set period, so she's having to wait for how long it is till the next one. But to to do something like that, that could at least, a, afford me the opportunity to start bringing in enough money that I can I could actually, not have to worry about jumping out of the, out of the truck?
[01:31:30] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:31:31] Bryan Goodwin:
And it would keep you out of the oil field. And it would keep me way the hell out of the damn oil field. Right.
[01:31:38] Rich Chelson:
And, plus, it would give you more experience, which is a good thing. Oh, yeah. It would give you it would give you experience with both men and women. Right. So, I mean, dude, honestly, I gotta say go for it. I I mean, I like it.
[01:31:55] Bryan Goodwin:
So how about you, Ron?
[01:31:59] Duuude-Ron :
What about me? I'm freaking handsome and lonely. But, anyway, what? What about me?
[01:32:10] Rich Chelson:
Ron was napping.
[01:32:12] Duuude-Ron :
Ron was napping. I was listening to every freaking word you're saying. Wait. Are you on my views?
[01:32:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. Yeah. What what what's your opinion on that thought?
[01:32:22] Duuude-Ron :
You know, that is and, you know, I don't know how because I don't take any benefits from my job because especially the health benefits. I I with retired military, I get all my health benefits and dental and all that other stuff, but I don't know what our company has. I know that they have, that I can get ahold of a crisis counselor Right. If I need it. They do have avenues like that. But to have a life, Coach. Counselor, you know, I don't know if we even have those with my company because it as big as it is, you know, it's throughout the whole United States.
Right. But we're split up into 11 divisions. And but, you know, I don't know if we have that, but that yeah. That would definitely be an avenue, and I know that it would take a lot of, tenacity on your part to be able to get some companies to where you could do that with. Right. You know? And like I said, I don't know how what the legal aspect is, what kind of paperwork you'd have to sign for contracts and all that other stuff To be able to do that, I, you know, I just don't know. Are you willing to put I know you're willing to put in the time. Oh, yeah. You know, I again, yeah. Versus trying to get the individual versus, you know, going after a company and saying, okay. This is what we have if anybody wants to take advantage of that particular benefit.
Right. Now would you get an on call pricing type thing? Yeah. I have no idea.
[01:34:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, and kinda what I was thinking of doing was was, you know, offering a, you know, it's a set number a set amount for, for each, for each client that, that side or each employee that side they wanted to go through and do the coaching process. Right. And, have that, have that, but also go on ahead. I I'm still trying to decide, do we do a a retainer upfront? I would it's kinda what I'm thinking of, you know, and this is all just stuff that I well, today. I mean, it was my mind went kicked into gear at the moment that I heard that, so I hit, hit pause on the, on the podcast. And for the next 5 hours, this is all that I was thinking of. It was just like, okay. Well, we could do it like this. We could do it like this. You know, do we do we charge beforehand? Do you know, do we do a do kind of a, like, a retainer fee?
And then it's per Yeah. Per client and and stuff. And I mean, and these are all things that doesn't matter right now. None of that is actually important right now. Right. Right. Because the whole tech building. Because the first thing I've gotta do, and this is where I'm wanting y'all to come in, is I need to start talking to businesses.
[01:36:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, come Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, Brian. Let me jump in here real quick. Okay? K. Okay. And and I'm not saying no. Don't don't talk to businesses, but but what what is, like, screaming in my head at me right now, get your message set first. You know, what what you wanna say to the businesses to to, to get them to invest in you. Right. Okay? That's that's the first thing you need to do. Get that down or at least as close as possible, and then go talk to businesses.
[01:36:51] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Because that's Right. No. I I get you there. Because what was what was the big what was the biggest aspect of the argument last night?
[01:37:00] Bryan Goodwin:
The main one that, that we were, talking about was was who am I targeting?
[01:37:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And and what and what the other one was is what is your worth for your skill set? Right. Yeah. You know, you said you you were putting yourself pretty low on the bottom of the totem pole, you know, as far as what you had to offer for your skill set, which is incorrect. Now Right. In theory, the bottom of the totem pole I don't know if you guys know this and you probably do. Actually, the bottom of the totem pole is has the most wealth. Not the top of the totem pole where everybody thinks, you know, the higher you are, the the the and all that other stuff. Actually, it's the bottom of the totem pole.
[01:38:09] Bryan Goodwin:
So I I see. I didn't realize that totem pole was actually upside down.
[01:38:15] Duuude-Ron :
I didn't know that. The highest value yeah. The highest value when I didn't know that yeah. I just found that out couple years ago. Somebody was telling me about that that the higher value is not at the top of the totem pole. It's at the base. Well, And, you know, I thought all my life that, you know, the top of the totem pole, you have the way you know, the eagle's wings and all that other stuff. You know, if you get to the top of the totem pole, obviously, that's where you wanna be. No? Right. Nope. No love. The truth.
[01:39:00] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, it's That is intriguing.
[01:39:05] Duuude-Ron :
But, yeah, to know what you want to offer specifically, yeah, what you wanna offer Right. Is probably the biggest thing that you get to concentrate on.
[01:39:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And that that's kinda I did sorta kinda think of that because I was like, alright. Do do we am I gonna be doing, you know, am I doing, c suite coaching where I'm bringing, you know, the the corporate executives? Am I coaching for them? Am I coaching just a small business owner for, to improve their business. And those aren't and I kind of was I can. I mean, like I said before, I mean, the the secret to to life coaching is that the life coaching skills can be applied to anything and to any niche. You know, the what you bring into an extra is your knowledge and expertise of a particular, of a particular niche.
But you still use just you know, you still use the the basic life coachings, tools and and skills for any of them because it's all about how how your how your mind is working on whatever the circumstance is. So to, so if I'm doing benefits for employees, then I would say, I would have to say it'd be, just regular life coaching. Yeah. Because it'll be whatever they whatever the the the employee wants work on. You know, if the employee wants to go, hey. I'm I wanna become, you know, middle management. Alright. Well, boom. We can work towards that because they know what they need to do in their particular particular circumstance to get to middle management.
And if they don't, they know how to actually find it. It's just what type of bullshit are they telling themselves that's keeping them playing in the in the, in the in mail route.
[01:41:28] Rich Chelson:
Well, let okay. Okay. Okay. Let me ask you this. So what if what if the company wants to, offer some some areas that that they would like, employees improved on.
[01:41:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Maybe I'm saying that right. Well, I mean, if it's something if they're wanting their employees to be coached on a particular deal, I mean, that's fine. I mean, if that's what the if that's what the client wants. So if it if I was to be hired on for, say, oh, in Emerald, there's a bank called Bank of the Southwest. Alright? K. So I talked to them. They're like, yeah, we want our, want our clients or our our employees to be coached on a better means of banking. What? I mean, I I I've never worked in a bank so I don't have have a clue. But still, to upgrade their level of banking. Alright. I mean, if is that if the if I come up to a to an employee and we're supposed to sit down and talk, and the employee thinks, well, I don't have anything to work with. I'm not doing my banking correctly.
Well, I mean, one, I could always call bullshit because you can always get a little bit better. Right. And but but But at the same time, if they're not willing to be if they're not willing to be coached, it's not gonna do isn't I could you know, you can lead a horse to water type of scenario.
[01:43:09] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But but you see, the thing is, the bank, the or or the company, okay, I would think would would at least would at least maybe wanna give you an outline as to what what they would like to see improved on, what what what they would like to see the, the, the, employee improved on so you could actually work with them.
[01:43:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, and what I would probably do with that, if say say I had a company that said that, I would actually probable more likely direct them over to well, let's get your your, your managers into the process, being able to to work these employees into where they're at a where they're at a place that so they will become better because the employ the the managers, if anything, are going to know
[01:44:15] Duuude-Ron :
what
[01:44:17] Bryan Goodwin:
the employees are lacking.
[01:44:19] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[01:44:21] Bryan Goodwin:
So that would, for that, I would probably say that'd be the better, better direction to go. It's like, alright. But We can we can help we can help in that department by doing it this way, by helping talking to your talking to your managers, getting your managers' thoughts about employees shifted so then now they're actually helping move move people to, to up to up the ladder instead of just, you know, kinda nitpicking going, well, this guy's okay. This guy's not worth shit, and they'd be up whatever whatever. Get the good boys club's going up and and the, and the the the unwatched masses stay down in the, stay stay down in the mailroom again.
[01:45:03] Rich Chelson:
Right. But you see, that's where you see, that's where you see, every company is gonna be different and Oh, yeah. You know, each one will, you know, you know, each one will have their own thing, and that's why that's why I was saying, you know, work on, you know, how you're gonna sell Brian Goodwin to these companies.
[01:45:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, best way then one of the things that I was thinking of on that would be the kind of the almost the pitch that I would say would have is something in the neighborhood of, if you want employees who are more content, more willing to actually work for you to have less turnover, more enthusiasm with what they're doing, then you actually want them to be coached on whatever it is they wanna work on. Because when they get go through and see that they're they can they can manage their mind on what they wanna be work what they wanna work on, they can take those same skills and apply it into into normal work.
Because eventually, they're gonna go, hey. We're we need to have, you know, we need to have the, I know I realized that I've gotta be able to take my, these skills and apply it into the actual business.
[01:46:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. Hold on. Hold on. Let me let me play devil's advocate here for a second. Okay? Oh god.
[01:46:34] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Because because Can't you let me dream already?
[01:46:37] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Dream all you want, buddy. But but you see, that's the thing. That's the thing. I mean, you've been doing this so long, and and I know you're close. And and you're just, like, right freaking there. I can see it. You can see it. And it's like, damn it. How how do we get Brian over this edge? But but you see with, with the what you just said, what if this company comes back and say, have you ever done this before? Do you have proof of what you're trying to sell us? What does it say?
[01:47:14] Bryan Goodwin:
I say yes.
[01:47:15] Rich Chelson:
Okay. How?
[01:47:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I've got recordings, and I'll just have to get permission from the, from the clients, that I have got recordings for that I use for review if they would buy and if I was to use this as a portfolio.
[01:47:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, honestly, if if now this is my opinion, but I'd go ahead and jump the gun and just ask for their opinion, you know, to say, hey. I might or might not use it in the future. Is it okay? Do I have your opinion? And it would be
[01:47:49] Bryan Goodwin:
it would still be edited enough where there would be a un identifying name on any of it. Just be like client 1 and Right. Right. I I would go through it personally edit. I would say client 1. You know, you done went off and screwed up. Client won. So
[01:48:08] Rich Chelson:
No. No. And as you see, that's fine. That's there's there's nothing wrong with that. But but you see, that's the thing. This you know, this is why I said I wanted to play devil's advocate for a second. Right. Is because, I mean, companies, someone in the company, whichever company, will come up with that. Maybe not the first company, the second company, but that third company would be like, I approve it, bitch. You know? You'd be like, damn, bitch. You know? And who knows that that there might be your $50,000 company.
[01:48:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. That that might be the $50,000 company. And, actually, the biggest one that a lot of people are gonna actually ask, and if there's ever a big question that will be a hurdle for me to actually overcome and to convince them that it's actually not needed, are those that go off and say, do you have any psychology degree? And to be able to tell them, this is coaching. We're not counseling. Right. 2 different things and have to educate the the the the HR department that I'm not with counseling. I don't do the counseling. I don't do consulting. You know? That's because those are what everybody thinks of when they hear coaching. They just think it's just a new word for for a counselor or a, or a consultant, and it's I'm neither one. We're coaching. We go because counselors go from the present and work back and come to the find the find the point where people are struggling. Look at where the struggle's at. And not to mention, god bless the counselors for doing what they what they do. But at the same time, the regulations for counseling are so freaking screwed up that nobody can really do anything. All they can do is especially if you're just kind of a general counselor, if you're not certified in, like, EFT, emotionally focused, therapy, or, oh, what's the what's another one?
That's the one that, Tony Overbay is always talking about is EFT.
[01:50:27] Duuude-Ron :
Child child psychology?
[01:50:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Not it's not so much child psychology. It's, but there's, where you're actually focusing more on EFT is where you're more focusing on the, on the fact that you're going to have emotions. And so to, to to accept and acknowledge the emotion that you have. And it's not what I go what I, teach people. I actually if there's anything that I'm close to doing, it is what is the, name? Acceptance and commitment therapy, ACT, is the closest to any type of quote, unquote therapy that I do from my from what I've heard people talk about is that because you accept what your circumstances are.
And so a lot of people will stress about the fact that, well, I've gotta go I've gotta go and see my, see my parents, and my parents are just these overly judgmental people, and and they make me feel bad all the time. Well, you got just, gotta accept the fact that your parents are probably gonna ask you weird questions from time to time because they, they that's just how they are. And there's, there like I said, there's a there's a bunch of different, tools and and and stuff that ACT, therapists are able to use for people to use except commitment therapy. Now the difference between me is that we're looking at what the mind's doing right now.
Right. We're looking at, okay, why are you not making the steps that you need to make to achieve whatever your goal is? Well, because I don't have time. Do you really not have time? Or are you just saying you don't have time? And usually, you tell you needle around that that whole question for the for the next 45 minutes till they go, well, no. I just really find other things to do. Okay. So what do you do when you feel like you need to do something? Why not accept that you're going to feel weird and see that there's where the acceptance commitment therapy kinda intersect.
Because accept the fact that you're going to feel like a fish out of water while you're doing this new task. Because this is the first time you've ever done the task. You don't know what to do, what all what all entails. So you're just gonna have to be okay with the fact that you're gonna do this messy. And so you go through and you do this as as it is. And when you can and so I am working with people from the present, push and getting them to go into the future while therapists and counselors start from the the present and work their way back. And then you have like I said, then you have your your, not not counselors, but not counselors.
Not counselors. Not, consultants. That's there's that other c word. And then you have the consultants, and their whole deal is, well, I have done it this way my whole life. Here's what I you do to get this done this way. And, well, the problem with that is that, yeah, that works for that person because you have the mindset that allows that to work. Somebody new? I mean, hell, I'm a good example. You listen to a lot of people. They're going, yeah. Well, they just use use Facebook ads and you just put up an ad and, you you run, put $25 behind it and you do another ad and put another $25 behind it. And you make it just slightly different and you see which one does better. And then from there, you take the take the worst performing one, you take it down, you put a new one up, and you run $25 add on it. And you do that in back and forth until you get get the, till you get all the, all the clients you want.
Okay? Except for the fact that every time I have ever done Facebook ads, I get no bites. Right. I will have people go to my site, but when it and they'll go to that landing page. They'll go to that landing page and then they just they they evaporate. No one fills out the form. No one hits send. And it's like and I've I've had the every time I do it, I have the thought of, well, maybe my my my order form's not working right. So I'll go in there. Oh, hey. Look at that. Everything worked like it's supposed to. So no. And it's the thought that I have, that whole value thing that we were talking about last night. It's the thought that I'm that I have where I'm not bringing the order home. I'm not bringing there's something in the way that I write the copy that is not enticing people to for them to see that I am selling selling a Mercedes, a brand new Mercedes for $50.
Right. Yeah. It's it's You know, I've to them, I'm selling a a totaled out hunk of metal. Right. For 5,000.
[01:55:57] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. No. And see this you see that's the thing. It's just, you know, listening to you. I mean I mean, as much as I hate to say it, it it sounds like it's somewhere in your copy, as to why as as to why people aren't and you see, that's the thing. I can't write copy. You know? I mean, I I'm I'm I'm not good at it for some reason. But so, I mean, I don't know. You know, I wouldn't know I wouldn't even know where to begin to, you know, help you, you know.
[01:56:31] Bryan Goodwin:
If we have anybody who is good at copy and wants to, wants to help me out, I will, I'll I'll give you give you 25% of whatever, whatever the take home is.
[01:56:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wow. 25% folks, that is circle cast atgmail.com or r Chelsea@gmail, and I'll forward it to him. So You get 25% of the of the take home on that copy. I mean, come on now. Where are you where where are some of you copywriters?
[01:57:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's funny thing is is, I mean, I'd love to get into the point where I'm doing getting the Jeff Walker thing going. Because Right. If the Jeff Walker if you're if you do it right, you know, you can you can bring in 1,000,000 of dollars with just a single launch. But the the and the thing about the about the launch is, it's not just your launch that you're doing. You're actually because what he actually he calls them JV. What, the j you wanna do, JV marketing. But it's, oh, shit. What's this what's the JV stand for? It's not junior varsity, but it's, Joint venture. Joint venture. Thank you. Yes. That's it. Exactly. As you use joint venture, selling. And so you have all the other people in your group who want to be a part of this. They actually make their own copy of what your copy is and sell to the sell to their groups, their their mailing lists.
And they actually a lot of times, the people will actually have a 50%. Yeah. 50%, commission on what the sale is. Yep. And so that's what I'd love to be able to get to as we're now.
[01:58:31] Rich Chelson:
Now I can't remember, and I haven't seen no email in the last couple years, but, I would I gotta look it up because, I did a joint venture webinar. It was, like, 2 or 3 days long. It was a Zoom webinar, and, it was only $47. And, it was it was, but I did the whole thing, and I'll tell you what. I met a lot of people,
[01:59:01] Bryan Goodwin:
all across. Oh, is that the thing? Is that the one that you did with, with, Eric k Johnson? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. I I know what to talk about. Yeah. And and I I I mean, there was
[01:59:13] Rich Chelson:
I'm I'm gonna tell you what. There's some people that that, their, their niche programs, they were kinda out there. That's
[01:59:27] Bryan Goodwin:
that's There are some.
[01:59:29] Rich Chelson:
Yes. There And I mean, there's I mean, very nice people. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was yeah. There was code there was the, the gamut. I mean, it wasn't just one little, thing. You know? It was it was the range of businesses was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. There was coaches. There was
[01:59:52] Bryan Goodwin:
therapists. There was all kinds of stuff. Well, and that's it. And I I I get I struggle struggled a good bit with, actually listening to the to the podcast episode that gave me the inspiration for the, for the, the benefit the doing employee benefits coaching. And that's because the gal who the who Lindsay was talking to marketed herself as a, how does she for I forget exactly what it was, but as essentially, it worked around to where she was coaching people who are neurodivergent in in doing something. And I'm sorry. I don't buy the whole neurodivergent phraseology.
[02:00:40] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Now I don't know if if the people that listen to our podcast is smarter or or about the same as as our way of thinking, but you're gonna have to explain that neurodivergent stuff. I I've never heard of it.
[02:00:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Neurodivergent is basically, it is a line of belief. People's and they they're they're throwing everything they can into what neurodivergence is. But you have you have people like, Rain Man, autism. Like, people who are autistic, that equals out to also including Asperger syndrome, but also they have started lumping ADHD into neuro, divergence. And what they're basically saying is that you don't think like normal people. That and they call the the normal people, they call them neurotypical.
[02:01:47] Rich Chelson:
Alright? Well, I'm neurodivergent
[02:01:48] Bryan Goodwin:
because I don't think like normal people. Well And I'm not actually big guys my point precisely. It's like, what is normal? Nick, exactly. Normal. I'd I know you don't think like I do. I don't think like Ron does. Ron doesn't think like either one of us. And Right. You know, and Ron doesn't think like anybody in there at the where he works at. Nobody who I work with thinks the same way that I do. We're all everybody around is neurodivergent. Neurotypical is, you know, something else. And and one of the things that keeps getting me on that is the sole facts of, like, there's a there's a freaking Facebook ad that just, I I I make a snarky remark every time I see it. But it's, there's a a guy who's essentially making an excuse for bad behavior and saying that it's because of ADHD.
Oh, it's bullshit. Sexual deviance is because of ADHD. It's like bullshit. The sexual deviance is because you can't control where you wanna put your damn pecker. Alright? No. No. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Change those words. Because you can control it. You don't want to control it. No. Exactly. You don't wanna control it because you you claim you can't.
[02:03:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's bullshit. You you can do anything you put your fucking mind to, and that's that's proven. That's guaranteed. That's that's been for the beginning of time. You can do anything you want. You choose not to do it.
[02:03:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Because anybody who claims I can't help it, I have to do it. Bullshit. Under the under the threat that you would have your dangling and and, your heavier wedding tech sitting on a chopping block, and somebody with a very dull spoon is going to take it off, I bet you would go, yeah. No. I can I can I can withstand from doing that? Yeah. I I I I'll admit. I'm one who enjoys a good dolphin vlogging. But if that was under the underneath the, the auspices that I may end up having severe suffer severe pain if somebody digs my root out by a spoon by a rusty spoon. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. I'll just walk around with a permagrin with a pearl wood because, yeah, I ain't touching it.
[02:04:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. No. I I just but you see, that's where you see, that's where, see, this is and and the company that your daughter works for hired this lady?
[02:04:26] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Or or No. This is, this is the that was on the that was on the on the podcast that I I, I was listening that gave me the inspiration to do the to maybe go to to go down the path of offering my services as an employee benefit.
[02:04:47] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Well, that's that's that's actually kinda cool that that out of that craziness because I probably wouldn't have lasted 30 seconds, let alone thought that far to, you know, come up with the idea you did.
[02:05:05] Bryan Goodwin:
So so my hats off to you for sticking it out. Oh, there's a lot of them that I mean, the other one that always gets me are the are the, the women coaches, and it's always women coaches. So if woman's woman's, it's proper language, isn't it? That's proper use of the word, isn't it? Woman's. Women, if y'all are listening to this, sorry, but you are not empathetic. Or you're not you're not an empath. Sorry. You may be empathetic, but you're not an empath. Alright? You cannot feel what that other person is feeling. No. You're feeling your ex what you're what you believe the feeling is, but you're not feeling that person's pain. You're not feeling that person's sorrow. You're not feeling that person's anger.
Alright? And there are people who love to go around. And I I'm an empath, and I I coach women on on on such such so and so. I was like, no. You're not a fucking empath. Yeah. You're no more an empath than I am, than I can read minds. And guess what? I can't. Half the time, my mind's blank, so I know no one's reading mine.
[02:06:21] Rich Chelson:
Right. But yeah. No. No. You're saying that's people that say and you see, that's the thing now. You see, these people make money like this because they found something that that freaking people are just That attracts people. Yeah. Yeah. And and, I mean, it's it's a lie. It's false, But they make it sound good, have it packaged all nice with a pretty little bow, charge $5,000, and next thing you know, they're making money.
[02:06:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And but there's also a part of me that with you just saying that is but is if it's helping the client to get to the point that they're wanting to go, is it really bad?
[02:07:08] Rich Chelson:
Holy.
[02:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Which is, which is, again, just sends my mind down a weird rabbit hole. You know? All of a sudden, I'm going around in circles. I'm like, well, yeah. It's kinda it's not a good but, well, you know, but it helps them out. The purse the client, it got to the goal that they're wanting.
[02:07:27] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but okay. What if what if 6 months a year down the road, their world goes to shit? Who are they gonna blame themselves? Hell no. Well, if they if they've been taught
[02:07:38] Bryan Goodwin:
their the coaching skills properly, they'll know how to utilize those coaching skills. And that's one of the key things that you wanna wanna do is you're teaching like for me, I'm teaching the skills of self coaching. You should be, by the time we get done doing our coaching sessions, be able to at least coach yourself through a particular circumstance.
[02:08:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. This is true. But
[02:08:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Now are is that gonna work all the time? No. It's so there's gonna be a lot of times you're just stuck in your head and you're going down panic mode. You're just like, holy shit. My life is terrible. Right. No. It's not terrible. It's just really shitty right now.
[02:08:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:08:23] Bryan Goodwin:
You're not going to die. You're just you're just go I mean, it's kinda like whenever I was me and the wife the wife said, yeah, you're gonna have to go into the go back to the oil field. That sink in my heart was the holy fucking shit. I don't wanna do this type of thought.
[02:08:40] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. I know. And and he'd see, the thing is, Brian, the, now now that for you, I can feel that pain because I remember, when I was married to my second wife, I was off the road, and and I was doing everything I could to stay off the road and be home. Right? Right. And, things just I mean, I was running local. You know, I was home every night, but I was running local. And, I wasn't making any money, and and, you know, my wife is like, you know, honey, we need money. I said, honey, I know only one way to get it. And, we had talked about it, and, I mean, I was so upset.
I freaking broke down crying because I had told her that, no, I wasn't gonna go back on the road because, you know, I wanted to stay home and have a real marriage. Yeah. And but I wound up going back on the road. Oh, yeah. Money was great. Lasted about a year and a half, and I was divorced. Yeah. So, I mean, so so so so I could feel your pain that, you know, if you want to go or not wanting to, but, you know, of of y'all's discus, discussion about going into the oil field. Right. You know, I I can I can fully, I guess, to use the word Comprehend?
Yeah. Well yeah. Yeah. Comprehend, you know, the feelings and everything that you have because it was like, fuck no. It's like, no. I'm I don't wanna do it. But Yep.
[02:10:30] Bryan Goodwin:
But, I mean, once we had that discussion, it was a good 4 days of me coaching myself while I was driving down the road. How do I get around to accepting the fact that I may have to be back in the oil field? And there's times I could get there, and I would be alright. I found something I can accept. I'm I'm okay. And then 4 or 5 of, you know, 4 or 5 hours later later on that evening or the following morning, boom. I'm right back in the same fucking hole of of despair and pain and suffering. I'm going, son of a bitch. What am I gonna do here? Right. And then and it got to the point where it's like, alright.
I've got a plan. If I have to go back into the oil field, at least I now know what I'm gonna need to do. Right. I now know that I've got a a plan of how I'm going to amass the money. I know that I'm probably gonna have to spend at the minimum 5 years in oil field, which is just going to be bleh, but it's something that I can I can swallow? Mhmm. It's it's gonna taste like shit, and I'm gonna have to just grin and bear it, but I can do it.
[02:11:45] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[02:11:47] Bryan Goodwin:
And knowing that once I get to that other point, I have 2 more years of just pushing like a fucking son of a bitch. Pushing with everything I have. Anybody who wants to get in my way and say, no. I think you're doing this wrong. I would just give the I will just drop my my trials, bend over, show them my asshole and say, kiss it. Right. I'm doing this. I'm doing it my way. Sorry you don't like it. That's not my fault. Build a bridge. Get the fuck over it. I'm doing this. I've got 2 years and I will find a way. I will climb over hell on my hands and knees through broken glass to make sure that I get this done.
So I making sure that I had that determination. Make sure I had that that that grit that I'm going to need to be able to do that. Right. And then on top of that, it's like, okay. Well, what are you how are you gonna do that in that current 5 years? What are you gonna do? And the answer is, hey. It's root beer barrels. It's carnival, crew just pulls through. I think I got root beer barrels. Yeah. What are the riots? That's cool. Squirrel. Squirrel. I tell you, I haven't seen root beer barrels carnival ride in years. So that was just cool that I I'm I'm afraid to find out. I wonder if they're going up to Hugo because I'm just a couple miles away from Hugo, and Hugo is, is, is Circus USA.
[02:13:12] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, okay.
[02:13:13] Bryan Goodwin:
So I wonder if that's what they're doing. Anyhow, so but one of the things that I've had to do is also make a game plan, knowing that first off, I'm gonna be off 12 hour. Take away the fact that I have to sleep for 8. I will give myself 8 hours. Right now, whenever I get finished trucking, I have at least 2 hours that I can fart around with. And, actually, I take up more than that because I go to bed at 10. If I go to bed at 10, I can wake up at 6 and be beautiful. Right. If I go to bed at, at 9 and I wake up at 5, my ass is dragging. If I get up at anything before 6, I'm just dragging balls all day long. Just something about something about that ungodly hour of anything anything before 559.
So and I know that about myself. I am I've and I could tell you stories about whenever I would get up in the, in the morning to go, my stepmom would get me up so that we could go throw newspapers because she had, pulled in a newspaper route to make a little extra money. And, anytime I was home for college, it never fucking failed. She would wake my ass up and tell me to and have me help her fold the newspapers and and all that. And I was like, goddamn. No. I don't wanna I'm fucking sleeping here, man. It's 3 o'clock in the morning in the wintertime.
It's 15 degrees below, or 15 degrees outside. It's fucking cold, man. And it it never failed. I still had to sit there and bold them and chunk and drive all the way through town with the window down, chucking freaking chucking, newspapers. And it was cold enough to where the air could or the heater did not work. So
[02:15:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's yeah. That's that's that's actually kinda rough.
[02:15:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's you gotta be bundled up. I look like I look like Randy off of, off the the Christmas story, you know, goodbye. You know? So Yeah. I laid there like a slug. It was my only defense.
[02:15:21] Rich Chelson:
So You know you know, it's funny, Les. It seems like the last week and a half, I've noticed something. No matter what time I go to bed, I mean, I try and stay up, you know, past 9 or 10. Uh-huh. Because it I'm I'm not sure if it's something medically wrong. The docs, like, trying to schedule tests and stuff like that, to find out why I'm so freaking tired. But, it seems like I'm up every morning between 5:30 and 6. Okay. Yeah. And and and that's the thing. I don't I don't set a clock.
[02:16:09] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You got you got yourself you got your your internal clock programmed for that time.
[02:16:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, now you see because because that thing up north, sometimes I could sleep till 7 or 8. But Yeah. And and, like, down here, you know, after I got moved in and stuff like that, you know, I can sleep till 7, 7:30. You know, I'd be fine with that, but it just seems like it just seems like for some reason, it's like, no matter what, I just wake up, and it doesn't matter if I went to bed at midnight or 10 o'clock.
[02:16:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. You know, or whatever. You know? It's Yeah. Well, that's because you're in a place you wanna be.
[02:16:55] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. You you you know, that was that was something else because when I was down, you know, watching all the cars and just all this here and and then well and plus, I love boats anyway. Oh, yeah. I was I've I've I've loved boats my whole life. Yeah. Just like me and trains. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, for me, it's been it's I mean, I yeah. I love big boats, small boats, fat boats, skinny boats. I love all boats. I don't care. And that's why you went in the fucking army.
[02:17:28] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Instead of the fucking navy. I love boats so much, but I'm a fucking join the army and be a mechanic.
[02:17:37] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Well, yeah, you know, it's funny because, you know, my, my real dad and my first stepdad was, in the navy. Both of them were. And, say my grandfather, he was in, the Royal Air Force
[02:17:57] Duuude-Ron :
or some he was air force.
[02:17:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. He was he was, say, I think he was a pilot. I'm not sure. But either way, it's it's just the thing is, though, I wanted to be different. And that's why that's why I went in the army because I knew I wasn't like them. I wasn't like everybody else. I don't I don't follow in people's footsteps a lot of times, and it's caused me heartache, headaches,
[02:18:30] Bryan Goodwin:
and a whole lot. Consternations. Yep.
[02:18:32] Rich Chelson:
And but, also a lot of excitement.
[02:18:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. You know? And that's, I mean, funny enough, that's, that's me also. I mean, I, I do stuff for the very fact that that too many people are doing the opposite thing. So, you know, everybody, you know, everybody would be listening to one particular song. I wouldn't listen to the song growing up. Because everybody else is listening to it. It's like, oh, I don't care to listen to it. I'm tired. You know? I got tired of listening to that. You know? Everybody else is listening to hard rock. I'm sitting there listening to smooth jazz just to just to be different. You know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. No. And that's that's the thing. Same here. You know?
[02:19:20] Rich Chelson:
And and, you know, but but you see and this is this is why I don't know about you, but this is why I've had I've had a few problems in the past. And I mean, it's not so much anymore, but, you know, in the past, it's like, you know, I can watch people just blindly follow everybody else, and it and it drives me up a wall. I mean, it's still something that I'm working on with my mind because I wanna walk up to these people and just shake them, you know Oh, yeah. And just, you know, put their brains back together and say, hey. Be original. Exactly.
You know? But, you know, you know, putting hands on people is kind of a you know upon for some reason. It is. It is. And and I would probably visit the inside of a jail, which I, you know, I've only done once in my life, and then I and I have no intention of doing it again. Right. But and that's what that's sometimes it's it's it's very hard for me, and that's why I just gotta turn my back and walk away. You know? Because it it's just it's like, god, people. You're just going along with everybody. Stop it. Live your life. Do Right.
Fuck everybody else. I mean, that's just that's just my opinion. But Right. And I've been I've been saying that for the last, what, 30 years, 20 years? I don't know. Oh, yeah. No. I just, I mean, just can't do it, you know, and you say like that like that, neural divergent we was talking about. Yeah. I mean, that what how? I mean,
[02:21:13] Bryan Goodwin:
I you see, I don't Some people claim that it's, depending on who you talk to and who thinks thinks that their thought way of thinking is neurodivergent. It some people say, well, I see I see words when I think or I see pictures when I think. Okay? And some people hear voices when they think. Right. I will. Yeah. No. And it that's and no. There was a there was a a, a story that someone was telling where their sister actually thought she was going insane because she'd never realized that that was her just her thinking. She thought she was hearing voices and never realized that that was just her having thoughts.
And so and a lot of people do. They think in that way. I think in sentences. You know? I there's times that whenever I'm looking at something, I will have I will I'll I'll think about it. And good one a good example of this of of how some people think in, think in in pictures is a, I got a guy out here who's changing out a tire. Y'all picking that noise up?
[02:22:26] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. No. I'm not. Okay. Good.
[02:22:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Is, the movie called Temple Grandin. If you've ever seen Temple Grandin, she they kind of they kinda do it in a in a whimsical way of how temple looks at the world. And I don't know. Do y'all have any idea who Temple Grandin is? No. Okay. Have y'all ever gone to a ranch and seen what, what a lot of people call the snake, which is the the thing that they put the cattle in, and the cattle just kinda follow this round path to get to where they're needing to go? Like, if you're working cattle, it's kind of a it's usually kind of like a semicircle. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I could say I've kinda seen yeah. I've seen that. Okay. That's thanks to Temple Grandin. And Temple Grand is still alive. Still still alive and well. She's, she works at the, at the university in Fort Stockton. Is it Fort Stockton, Colorado?
The 4th that's up in North Colorado. Yeah. Okay. Whatever that college is up that that area. Temple Grandin still works there, and she is labeled as autistic. But she had, she actually took animal husbandry to a whole new level where it was how she got it set up to where on how to get cattle to, to actually more gently get themselves to go into the depths. Because they used to go off and and, just had a a drop off into into the dip pond that they would have to swim through it and climb out. And temple actually set it up to where it was a it's a slope in, and there's foot hoof holds in there. And so they have got all these, you know, she made all these big huge changes to the livestock industry.
And, and she's still and she's it's just a fabulous story. And if you catch it on, on the different streaming site, sites often and, and highly recommend it. Natalie port yeah. Natalie Portman is playing Temple Grandin. Wow. And and Natalie Portman is a hottie. Yeah. And and Temple Grandin is very country to put it to say the least because, yeah, she is very, very country.
[02:25:07] Duuude-Ron :
But, but They don't wear a sporty.
[02:25:10] Bryan Goodwin:
No. She is very I mean, she still, she still does. The 19 fifties style buckaroo western shirts. Oh, wow. Okay. She still wears these styles. What's with the piping on the on, you know, on on all the seams and stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Boom. She's got that.
[02:25:30] Rich Chelson:
See that? That's class right there. I mean I mean, you can pull that off. Yes. It's the bomb.
[02:25:38] Bryan Goodwin:
And Temple is awesome. So my uncle, whenever he worked up there, worked up there, he he, got to talk to Temple Grandin all the time is what he's saying. So Okay. Well well okay. Okay. I oh, it hey. Hey. It says, it stars Claire Danes, not Oh, Claire Danes. Not not not yeah. Yeah. Claire Danes. I'm sorry. Still, I love Claire Danes as well.
[02:26:00] Rich Chelson:
I mean, she's awesome, but no. I'm okay. Yeah. I can I'm I'm I'm understanding what you're saying about, you know, seeing things in pictures because while while you were talking, there's a guy I know. He's he runs, Merrimack Caverns in Missouri. Uh-huh. And, I mean, nice guy. Love him to death. But when you give him a phone number, he will stop. He will sit there and look blankly into space, and he will memorize your phone number by looking at in in his mind, looking at an old touch tone telephone. Yeah. And, and, and, and he will figure out, and, and he puts words with, the phone number And that way, he he doesn't forget it. It's weird. It's weird, but, I mean, it it works for him. Yeah. And that there's actually a really,
[02:27:06] Bryan Goodwin:
there that's actually a whole, way that a lot of people actually set themselves up to remember.
[02:27:13] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:27:14] Bryan Goodwin:
So they actually will put themselves through this whole mental, this mental, obstacle course, for lack of a better word, to help remember a series of, say, like, a shopping list. So they may go out to it may have them, in the picture have them pictured in the house. They go out in the backyard, and, off to the left is a beehive. Well, that beehive is for honey. So you see the beehives, you remember honey. So you walk out, see the beehive. Then as you go along, you see your cat. The cat's standing in the sandbox. Sandbox is for the litter. So we need honey. We need cat litter. And so also we need to we go over and we, come inside and we go to the basement, and there's a cardboard box for us to slide down the stairs. Alright. We're gonna need a cardboard box. We've also got honey, we've got the cat litter, we got cardboard boxes, and, you know, you could go through this and as you give yourself this whole little little space, little, little obstacle course, it helps you do actually remember. And a lot of people do use that as, as a means to remember. But is that because they're neurodivergent?
[02:28:35] Rich Chelson:
No. You see? Yeah. Exactly. No. I I would I would have to say no. That's just because and you see, that's the thing. You know? It it seems like everyone nowadays has to put the label on fucking everything. And that's why. You don't have feel special.
[02:28:54] Duuude-Ron :
But And let's go back all the way to the beginning of this whole fucking thing and go back to one word. What is blank? What is it? What is starts with an n.
[02:29:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Noun for 300.
[02:29:19] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. Well, we start the way we started this conversation,
[02:29:27] Bryan Goodwin:
what is normal? Noise. Oh, norm. Normal. Yeah. It's dorby. Okay, duh. What is I was like going, yeah, god, I don't remember what we were talking about 7 hours ago or 3 Is that 7 o'clock? What was that? I don't know.
[02:29:42] Duuude-Ron :
And you and you and you think I'm freaking out there flapping when you ask me a question and yeah. Okay. I'll fucking remember that. But, anyway, what is normal?
[02:29:55] Rich Chelson:
Exact yeah. Exactly. And you see, that's the thing. That's the Am I normal?
[02:30:01] Duuude-Ron :
Fuck. I wouldn't classify myself as normal. Yeah. But sitting here watching the show Cops. Let me ask you this. Is any one of those fucking people on Cops normal?
[02:30:15] Rich Chelson:
You know? Well, they're normal. On ripenels? Well, you see you see, that's the thing. Normal normal is, subjective. Yeah. It it is. Because what is normal for you is not normal for me or not normal for the the, people in the cops because they're getting arrested. But you see and and you see, that's where that's where you can't normalize Yeah. Anything, really.
[02:30:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. You cannot normalize anything. Well There are just no nothing is nothing is normal. Let me ask you this. If me and Elon Musk were and you if you didn't know who Elon Musk was, And if we were just standing next to each other, would you be able to tell of what is normal as far as financial, success?
[02:31:21] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. I mean, honestly, because you see that you well well well, you see there again, you see, your definition of success and my definition of of success is different. So you see, that's where see, this is where this is all this is all a rabbit hole that that this podcast lady brought up or whatever. You know? And it's and it's honestly I mean, if you ask me, just from just from what we've talked about and and our current discussion,
[02:31:59] Duuude-Ron :
she's found a way to take
[02:32:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No. She has found a way to take a a perfectly innocent thing and make millions off of it, which I mean I mean, more power to her, but I'm I'm I I can't get behind it. You know?
[02:32:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:32:29] Rich Chelson:
I I, you know, and and you you you say, I know there is autistic people out here, and I and I know there's people with learning disabilities and all like this. I personally know quite a few of them. You know? But still, the thing is is not everybody
[02:32:49] Bryan Goodwin:
is well, if you ask me, everyone's basically checking out because they don't wanna adult is what it is. Right. It's easier to just go, well, I can't, you know, I don't think of it that way. And so I I'm I'm I've got this label of, I got this disability of being neurodivergent. It's like, no, dude. You're not a disabled dude just because you don't think like what you think everybody else is supposed to think.
[02:33:15] Rich Chelson:
Right. And that's the thing. How do they know what what, everyone else is supposed to think? Because they don't know they don't know what in hell they're thinking.
[02:33:27] Duuude-Ron :
Well, what you just said, Gretch, about stop adulting, man, I wanted to stop adulting now for fucking years.
[02:33:36] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Dude, I won't argue with that. In fact, it was it was funny. The other day, I was looking at a piece of mail. It was it was, god, it was something to do with, see, I think my lawnmower loan and trying to get that paid and set up and all like this. And I just I just stopped and said out loud, I gotta wanna stop adulting today. So I stopped and, turned the TV on and just sat down and did nothing. I said, fuck this. I'm out. I I just I just had enough, man. It was just like, oh my god, you know, trying to figure it out. I was having a hard time. I'm like, no. I'm just tired of adulting. Right. You know? I mean, I love my house and all like that, but sometimes it's it's like, dude.
[02:34:26] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Enough is enough, and it's enough.
[02:34:29] Duuude-Ron :
But the thing is When can we go when can we go back and start playing with marbles again?
[02:34:35] Rich Chelson:
Oh god. That was Tomorrow. Right? I need to go meet at that Hobby Lobby then.
[02:34:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Go back to Hobby Lobby and get yourself some marbles. Yep. However, I got plenty of them rambling around in my fucking skull. I don't need any more.
[02:34:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, can I borrow some? Yeah.
[02:35:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I think I got 2. You and you want some of those? Yeah. Yeah. That's a More like that. Wow. That's scary. You want, yeah, you want some of these marbles? That's scary. Yeah.
[02:35:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. That's I I I don't know. That's where you see, that's where you see that I don't I don't see that person being a coach or anything very long thinking like that. But then again, I could be wrong because with the way people think nowadays anyway
[02:35:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. No. They they're they're going to buy into it because they're like, hey. I've I've been calling myself neurodivergent for the past 3 years. Okay. You're my copy. And so yeah. Congratulations. She tapped into that field. She tapped into that one. So good for her. I just am one who just just has a visceral reaction to people who use the term neurodivergent. I also have a visceral reaction to people who go, well, I've got trauma in my life. I've got generational trauma. It's like, no. You fucking don't. Sorry. Your your ancestors are not coming through the ether, thumping you on the head with a with an ax. Alright? Sorry. But Lizzie Borden didn't kill you too.
So don't we try to say that you've got generational trauma? No. Now you may have a your your parents may have a means of wanting to do something because they think that, that is how their parents did it. But, again, that has that has nothing to do with generations, and it's not traumatic. It's just how grandma did it. And that's the that's one of the you know, that I just people wanna talk about having trauma and and stuff like that. And it's like, no. Sorry. But your emotions are not busted. You do not have emotional trauma. You had the hottest girl in school call you loser when you asked her out on a date.
That's all that happened. Right. It was not traumatic. You thought it was traumatic, but it it did no harm to your emotional state. You cried for a little bit.
[02:37:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But they think well, that's like there's there's someone that I know, that they think they have post post traumatic stress or no, postpartum depression because they say they've had 3 miscarriages, but there's no, proved they were ever pregnant.
[02:38:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I've had known I've known some some women who have who love to use that. I've suffered for postpartum. It's like, no. Okay. Congratulations. Yeah. You had a child. There's another coach that I know of who likes to talk about how she had, what was the new thing? What does she call it? Postpartum anxiety. I'm like going, oh my god. No. Not everything is fucking anxiety. Alright? Right. It's like running around. Everybody's trying to say that if you don't agree with them, they're that you're a racist. It's like, no. Not everything is is based with in anxiety. Did you have anxiety because you had a child? This is your first child? Yes. Were you scared to death that you're gonna wake up one morning and your child's gonna be dead? Yes. Congratulations.
Every parent goes through that with every child. Yeah. Eventually, you go to realizing, oh, hey, wait a minute. They're they're going to make it. You know, if they you got them past that 1st year, you're pretty you're pretty well set. Now are there still things that could happen? Yeah. You could who knows? You could wake up, you could wake up one morning and find yourself dead. How that happens, I don't know. But it would I'm sure it happens somewhere along the way.
[02:39:43] Duuude-Ron :
When?
[02:39:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. But I'm sure it's I'm sure someone's probably woken up dead a couple times.
[02:39:52] Duuude-Ron :
Alright.
[02:39:55] Rich Chelson:
That would be a feat. At least once.
[02:39:59] Duuude-Ron :
No. I just don't wanna wake up. What's up, dad? Fucking
[02:40:04] Bryan Goodwin:
yeah. Please do not I don't wanna fucking come back and do any more of this adulting shit. Oh, no. If I find out you've gone off and passed, I'm gonna find a necromancer, and he's gonna raise your ass up.
[02:40:17] Rich Chelson:
I wanna be a Toys R Us kid, man.
[02:40:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I identify with a ham sandwich. Well or grilled cheese sandwich. What the fuck? No. Yeah. It'll be too late because I will already be turned into ashes. Plain and simple. Next day.
[02:40:41] Rich Chelson:
Next day, I am gonna be I am Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. I'm gonna be back up, and it's a couple days.
[02:40:50] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. If you wanna fucking, you know, put me in the little, the fucking smoker, the little fucking pellets, by all means, knock yourself out.
[02:41:04] Rich Chelson:
What do we have on? Smoked rum. Smoked dude.
[02:41:09] Duuude-Ron :
You know, the I'll smoke a beef. I don't care. Or pork. What the hell? Dude smoked brisket. Yeah. I ain't gonna give a shit at that point in time. Everybody else gonna have to deal with this, not me.
[02:41:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Nah. We're gonna turn you into the first person for the haunted forest. We're gonna plant turn you into a tree. Get one of those get one of those tree pods. You seen those?
[02:41:39] Duuude-Ron :
You know, my grandson wants to do that.
[02:41:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, it was. He turns away. Do you take the person you fold basically, you kinda fold them up into a into a kinda, into a, fold them up into the, into a fetal position? And and, basically, you pack dirt dirt and and burlap around them, and then you plant a little tree in the top. And, basically, you feed the tree. So and that's how you make a haunted forest.
[02:42:12] Rich Chelson:
Oh my gosh.
[02:42:15] Duuude-Ron :
I had never heard of that. There no. There are people. That that is a,
[02:42:21] Bryan Goodwin:
a whole industry of doing of of comp you could you could actually even legally have yourself composted.
[02:42:29] Rich Chelson:
All the I've seen a couple of them ads. I I I just I I just thought they were hooey, but you know?
[02:42:39] Duuude-Ron :
No. That's what my grandsons want to do. Okay. When they pass away, it's become fertilizer for a tree. Why not?
[02:42:49] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know what? I mean, it's just the body. It's not their soul. So, you know, whatever you wanna do. You're right. Would it float your boat? Have you?
[02:42:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Then you can't take it with you.
[02:43:00] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[02:43:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's the thing. Only one person has done that. 1. And that happened a little over 2000 years ago. Actually, 24 100 years ago. No. 2000 years ago. Not 24, 2000. Only one person has done that.
[02:43:22] Bryan Goodwin:
What? That was Elijah, wasn't it? No. Jesus. Well, Elijah didn't die. He just went up to heaven.
[02:43:30] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. No. That's right. That's true.
[02:43:32] Duuude-Ron :
But Jesus was the only one that took his body with him. No. No. His body was in the tomb, dude. His spirit went to him. Okay. And he came back. Spirit. What happened to his body? It wasn't in the tomb after 3 days.
[02:43:50] Rich Chelson:
It wasn't in the tomb. Yes, sir. You're right. You might my fault my fault. I stand corrected. Yeah. I was gonna say, did y'all get did y'all get to watch that,
[02:43:59] Bryan Goodwin:
the video on, the Bible through, through Satan's, perspective?
[02:44:05] Rich Chelson:
No. Not yet. Oh. I haven't watched it. I will watch it, though.
[02:44:14] Bryan Goodwin:
It's it's actually really interesting. I mean, it it's not anything of, you know, where they're trying to glorify the devil or anything. They're just it's just yeah. It gives you the motivation as to why Satan is Satan. Right. And, essentially, it's all about pride. He all he, he he thought that the angels should be God's favorite. And all of a sudden, he made these little weak, helpless beings on earth, and they are his favorite. And he's supposed to there's we're supposed to receive all these blessings. And, it basically was just like, and Satan or Lucifer was just like, well, fuck this, man. That's bullshit. I'm I'm sitting here giving him all the love and praise and time, and then he goes off and says, hey. I like these guys. They're gonna get the keys to the kingdom. It's like, no.
And so it goes down a whole path, and so the jealousy of humans is what causes him to show to get Eve to pay take a bite from the the, from the tree of good and evil, and and Tree of knowledge. Tree
[02:45:31] Duuude-Ron :
of knowledge. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:45:33] Bryan Goodwin:
And take, and why he, he got god to, to harangue, Job like he did, or not even get Joe god, but, god gave, Satan permission to, to do, all the stuff that he did to Job and Yep. To see if he'd get Job with us.
[02:46:01] Rich Chelson:
He knew he knew Job Job wouldn't, wouldn't deny God. And the only thing he told Satan not to do is you cannot kill him. You can kill him. And you can do anything else you want, but he will never deny me. And Satan didn't believe him.
[02:46:25] Bryan Goodwin:
And, He came close a couple time or one at least once. I mean, who wouldn't?
[02:46:30] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[02:46:32] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. It's serious. But, yeah, he, Yeah. He he, he, he, persevered.
[02:46:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, it's but it's a really it's a really interesting way of of of telling the biblical story.
[02:46:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'll look it up, and is it on Amazon?
[02:47:02] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm on no. It's on YouTube.
[02:47:04] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:47:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Should be in the, in the show notes for last week.
[02:47:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I saw it. I I was just I was just seeing if it was on, Amazon Prime too.
[02:47:22] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I don't think he's I don't think he made it that high enough production.
[02:47:27] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[02:47:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Because it's just an animation. It's I think the, I think the name of the channel is Biblical Animations, if if I'm remembering right. Yeah. So Yeah.
[02:47:45] Rich Chelson:
But, anyhow, see what time are we at. Yeah. It's about 10:2.
[02:47:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, it's probably about time for us to get it all wrapped up then. So, guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for taking the time to sit here and listen to us and hear hear what we have to say and the fact that I'm actually gonna be using these 2 2 fine gentlemen to hold me accountable because that's one of the things we never got around to actually talk about. We got sidetracked on on this on a deal. So let's, what I basically am gonna do next by next this time next week is I am going to have a list of at least 50 businesses that I plan on calling.
And, from there, we'll just we're gonna whittle away that list. So and probably keep adding to the list also. So
[02:48:32] Rich Chelson:
but do me a favor also. I mean, that's awesome, and and I will I will expect it. But do me a favor also and write down what you plan to, say to each business.
[02:48:43] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Then that'll be what we do first then. Okay. So so, yeah, we'll come up with the pitch, and then we'll go from there. So Yeah. They I mean, that this way here, this way here,
[02:48:58] Rich Chelson:
you know which way you need to go, and then and then and then you can shift and and slide as you need to. Right.
[02:49:08] Bryan Goodwin:
So alright. Will do then. So, yep, that'll be the, that'll be the the assignment for me for this, this next week is, we're as we make this show all about me. Yeah. So, is yeah. We're gonna I'll I'll come up with the, with with the the key points of the pitch, and and, and we'll we'll go from there. So but anyhow. So alright, guys. So let's try swinging at this again. Alright, guys. So thanks again for, for listening as we, as we go through our life intentionally with each other. And that's what this show is all about is that me, the dude, and Rich are all 3 just living our life together. This is just how we talk with each other, how we have these communications because a man's community is one of the most important communities in a man's life. We we sacrifice our friendship for the sake of just doing life day to day life. And it is the lack of connection that men have that causes so much of their suffering.
And I wanna try to bring it back, bring make it normal for guys to have just conversations where if you haven't asked, say you're like, hey, guys. Hold me accountable. You can go to them. Go to these guys and go, hey, hold me accountable. I want to make sure that I do this. And they can go, no. You're not doing that. You're gonna do this instead. Like we just did. It's like, okay. Well, I'll I'm going instead of, doing a list of of of good, companies, I'm gonna be working on pitches. So we're doing that. And this is what we do. This is how we live together. If they if Rich had a, had a a problem that he wanted to be addressed, then he would be speaking up going, hey. I need this from y'all guys. I this I haven't asked it. Alright? And when Ron has a problem and he wants to have an ask, he's got he's got room for his ask. And we can all ask for each other, and that's what makes our masculinity so great is because it is the fact that we are living life with each other, Though we're none of us are in the same spot.
I'm over in Oklahoma. Ron's down in Texas. And Rich is over in Mississippi. And we are still getting together every Thursday night, having discussions, talking for 3 hours. I mean, who talks that much? My wife has a hard time believing that we talk that much, but we do. And when I get off, she's, like, talking all 3 hours. Yeah. Every every week, every Thursday, we're talking it's like she's it's funny because she does. She's, like, going, you just talked to him for 2 hours yesterday. What do you have left to talk about? I was like, oh, shit, man. We got all sorts of stuff to talk about. Because, yes, us guys do like to talk. Yes. We do. We don't have to talk. We have our our our the mind our cave of a of a mind where we can crawl into and we could sit. And there's good there's times that we want we need to draw into our fortress of solitude.
It is very manly for us to do that, but to sit there day in, day out, day in, day out, that's where you start losing yourself. You start believing the bullshit that you're telling yourself. You need to have some friends out there who slap you on the back of the head and say, you're being an idiot. Stop it. Come on. You're coming with us. We're going fishing. All right. Fine. We're going fishing. And we take and you take off and you live life with each other. And that's the glory, that's the beauty of what this podcast is about. Now this podcast is a podcasting 2.0, type of podcast. It is done with podcasting 2.0 specs in mind, which means that we also do value for value for, from our, from our listeners. If you wanna help us to make sure that our this podcast keeps going, then tell us how much value you got.
And then whatever how much value you decided you got from this, from this episode, then share it with us. Give us a share whatever that value is. If it's, you know, if it's $50, sweet. It's $50. If it's $2, okay. It's $2. It doesn't matter what the amount is. It's just what you think we are worth. And when you could share that out, you could also share it out through, through not just, because we're using what's called the funding tag. So you can actually send us our, a a a donation, but through, through PayPal. And that will actually show up, in the PayPal account. And there's actually a link in the, in the in the modern podcasting apps that allows you to actually go to to PayPal and and to make a make a donation that way. Or if you want and you wanna send Satoshis, you'd like to send us a a, a Boostagram, you could do that too. We would send a Boostagram back to you with a with a reply or and also talk to you live on the show if we're happy to be on the show at the, that time.
And so this one of the glorious things about what podcasting 2.0 is there's so much advancement, so much, interesting aspects of what podcasting is now doing that is just exciting. And it's another reason why we got into do turning this into a podcast is just because, hey. We can, and it's fun, and it's cool. And so we did. And that's one of the fun things you you could do. You can have the 3 heads, one brain aspect like we have, and it's a great thing. So it because eventually, we do. We work we equal out to a one hopeful brain. And so we actually are kinda sorta smart in a roundabout fragmented way. So but you it's it's it's how you wanna do it. You get to do the show how you want. If you'd like to know more about what we're doing, then please, you know, reach out to us.
Circlecastgmail. I'll I'll let you know every day what my email is. [email protected]. Richesazarchelsonat gmail.com. Dudes is one of our pod one of our email addresses and we'll get the message over to him because, yeah, he is he's he likes his technology. So he just doesn't like to admit it. So
[02:55:43] Duuude-Ron :
so if you're It's a perpetual rotary phone. I got no problem with that. Exactly. You got
[02:55:48] Bryan Goodwin:
be like John c Dvorak. I've got a phone. It's in the drawer. So downstairs in the in the kitchen. So That's right. Hanging on the wall. Hanging on the wall. So we have that's I was going someplace and my brain just completely up and down. Oh, I remember where I was going. So but if if there's anything about this show that you enjoyed, you liked about it, share it with your friends, throw it up on the Facebook, throw it up on the Twitter, Instagram, wherever it is that you like, that you have your following wherever you have your community at, share it up there. Let let everybody around know that there's these this show called 2 grumpy vets that dude and it's a 3 hour show, and it's just they talk about some of the dumbest shit that you ever come across because they just do. And who knows why? But they do. They talk about it, and it's semi entertaining.
They get a lot of their information wrong, and that's what kinda what makes it entertaining is because they tell you a bunch of bullshit, and they they don't even know the difference. So we have fun. We enjoy each other, and we enjoy the time that we spend with each other because of the fact that we want to see and talk with each other as we go through our go through our life. So, guys, with that, I'm gonna go ahead and pass it on over to Rich. Rich, what do you have to say for your closing closing words?
[02:57:08] Rich Chelson:
I don't know if I could follow that, dude. That was actually pretty good, to to be honest with you. Now, actually, no. I, I
[02:57:17] Bryan Goodwin:
That was pretty good. No. No. No.
[02:57:21] Rich Chelson:
No. I do. I do. I I I, I I do need to throw this in there. You know? I I normally thank everybody for listening. And, obviously, we're doing something right because we broke a 1,000 fucking downloads before 6 months. It was it was it was we were, like, 2 weeks away from, 6 months when we broke because it was last week when we broke a 1,000 downloads. Right. And I was like, oh my god. I don't I don't know what we're doing or how we're doing it. We picked up another country. So I just, again, I just god. Thank thank everybody that's listening. I mean, no one's said anything to us yet, which we'd love to hear from you. You know? Good, better, indifferent, we don't give a shit. Like Brian said, you know, 3 brains, you know, make one mind.
You know? So, you know, between the 3 of us, we could come up with something. Yep. You know? But, yeah, share it out like like Brian said and yeah. Any copywriters, like we talked about earlier in the podcast. If if, you know, y'all can help Brian out with copy on the on his current website, [email protected], or, hell, [email protected], and I'll make sure Brian gets it. You know, either way, it just get it to either one of us, and we'll, definitely make sure it gets through. And you and Brian can work details out, and y'all can have your thing, and it'd be all good to go. So but that's all I got. You know? I just I just I I just I just love the fact that people are actually listening to our bullshit.
You know? It's it's it's actually, you know, kinda weird. We go, what, you know, 40, 50 years of our life and, you know, thinking no one's listening to us and, shit, we've had a 1,000 downloads in in less than 6 months? Yep. Okay. Well, I'm just gonna keep going until, you know,
[02:59:30] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll just keep going. I don't care. But Yeah. Just keep going until someone says say stop. So
[02:59:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, then I'll probably still keep going just because I'm dead. Just piss them off. Exactly. Right. Right. So but, yeah, that's that's about all I got. I just I just wanna thank everybody. And no, honestly, I wanna say one more thing. I wanna thank you, Brian, and you dude for making me do this. At first, I was kinda dreading it. I don't know why, but I was. But now I've I've we've been doing it so long. I've I've come to look forward to it. You know? Oh, yeah. It's it's just I don't know. I I I don't know the right words I'm thinking of. I just know that that it's Thursday, man. I've got a podcast with with the dude and Brian. You know? I I've got to.
So, yeah, just, you know, thank you guys. I appreciate it.
[03:00:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Glad we're able to be here to have a good time. That's right. So alright. Dude, what do you got to say for the last, for the end of the ending shot?
[03:00:46] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Again, Rich said it first. You know, how how can I follow-up on what you two gentlemen have just said? You know, it's great that we're able to come together every week to be able to do this and that we have individuals that are listening to us just climb down every fucking rabbit hole that has probably ever been produced and just that we enjoy each other's company. And, yes, these two individuals have helped me in many different ways in my life, and I'm grateful. And so we're here for is to help you. And That's right. Thank everybody out there for listening to us.
So
[03:01:56] Bryan Goodwin:
What was that? No. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say, alright. Well, guys, I appreciate y'all taking the, taking the time again to listen to us because I know these, these shows are stretch out for a little bit. But, heck, if you're listening to it while you're driving, at least we're, at least we're helping you, get further down the road. And so, guys, we're we are not putting you to sleep while you're driving. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If we if you have fallen asleep, we we don't have an email address. We don't know what to what to say. Sorry. We, so yeah. But it it's not us. So don't know who you're talking about. Right. That's a Have no idea.
[03:02:36] Rich Chelson:
Nope.
[03:02:37] Bryan Goodwin:
So but anyhow, guys. Alright. Y'all have yourselves a good rest of the week. Y'all take care, and we will see you next Thursday. Till then, bye. Peace. See you. Alright, guys. We'll catch y'all next week. Alright. Alright. See you then. Gentlemen.
[03:02:53] Duuude-Ron :
Bye. Alright. Be safe out there, guys. You too. Absolutely.
[03:02:57] Rich Chelson:
Bye.
Introduction and Hosts
Solar Storms and Radio Challenges
Healthy Debates and Relationships
Podcasting and Technical Challenges
Cruising the Coast: Car Enthusiasts
Upcoming Events and Racing
Coaching and Business Ideas
Neurodivergence and Labels
Biblical Stories and Interpretations
Closing Remarks and Reflections
