Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this lively episode of "Two Grumpy Vets," hosts Bryan, Rich, and The Duuude gather to share their unique blend of humor and social commentary. The conversation kicks off with a nostalgic look back at the music of the Village People and the quirks of aging rock stars. As they wait for Brian to join, Rich and Dude engage in playful banter about slouching and slacking, setting the tone for a relaxed and humorous discussion. The trio also delves into the intricacies of military life, with a light-hearted jab at the Navy, and reminisce about the good old days of roller skating to classic hits.

The episode takes a turn into the technical as the hosts discuss the challenges of maintaining websites, the quirks of old software, and the evolution of technology. Rich shares his struggles with WordPress and the complexities of SEO, while Bryan reflects on the joys and frustrations of playing with early internet tools like Flash and LimeWire. The conversation also touches on the intricacies of driving, from the nuances of truck driving to the peculiarities of traffic laws. As always, the hosts invite listeners to contribute to the show, whether through creative input or financial support, emphasizing the value-for-value model that keeps "Two Grumpy Vets" running.
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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude.  

[00:00:33] Duuude-Ron :

What's going on, Rich?  

[00:00:35] Rich Chelson:

Are you there, Rich?  

[00:00:37] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. I'm here. You there? Yep. Yeah. No. I'm here. You're there.  

[00:00:45] Rich Chelson:

Let's get that fucking straight right here and now.  

[00:00:50] Unknown:

Well, I'm glad you straightened me out, dude.  

[00:00:53] Rich Chelson:

That's right. You need to be   you need to get straightened straightened   out every once in a while.   Yeah. Because you Right. You know? Because you just slouch too much.  

[00:01:04] Unknown:

I know, man. I I'm I'm a slacker.  

[00:01:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Not a slacker or a sloucher. Well, you know, you could be both sloucher and a slacker.  

[00:01:14] Unknown:

Okay. Okay.  

[00:01:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay.  

[00:01:17] Unknown:

I would feel better if I'm both.  

[00:01:20] Rich Chelson:

You know what? And I'm sure you probably excel at both.  

[00:01:25] Unknown:

Yeah. I do.  

[00:01:26] Rich Chelson:

Alright.   Well, at least you excel at something.   At least you excel at something. Right?  

[00:01:32] Unknown:

Right. Exactly.   Now Brian just, text me and said he'll be on in a minute.   I mean, it's been a minute, but,   well, you know how Brian is being in the navy.  

[00:01:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. In the navy.   We ain't gonna go any further with that song because, one, I can't sing.   One, I can't sing, and two, I don't remember the rest of the words.  

[00:02:01] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't either. I mean, yeah, when it came out, that was the big hit, and   everybody was singing it. But yeah. No. The village people are not my jam.   You know? Yeah. I mean, back in the day when I was younger, didn't know no better.   Yeah. I mean, it was it was okay once in a while, but, yeah, now it's like, no. I'm good.  

[00:02:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   And what they Trump had him   had that band at his inauguration?  

[00:02:34] Unknown:

Oh, I don't know.  

[00:02:36] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. They were they were   looking old.  

[00:02:41] Unknown:

Well, dude, no doubt. I mean, shit. They're they're probably pushing late seventies, early eighties.   Hang on. Let me look. I'm curious. Alright.   I I I   I am just kinda curious as to   how old the village people are.  

[00:03:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Well, I'll put it to you like this. I'm 57, and they're a hell of a lot older than I am.  

[00:03:07] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[00:03:13] Rich Chelson:

Because those songs came out when, what,   we're in fucking   junior high?   Yeah. Because I was still fucking going to the roller skating rink.  

[00:03:24] Unknown:

Yes. Yeah. It's the late seventies, early eighties. It says the oldest surviving member,   Victor Willis, is 73.  

[00:03:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:03:33] Unknown:

And and the others are in their seventies. So  

[00:03:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because I remember doing the YMCA   when we used to go roller skating   Right. In Friday nights.  

[00:03:47] Unknown:

Oh, shoot. There's there's two   that are 77.  

[00:03:59] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. They were they were looking a little rough on Trump's inaugural,   you know,   ball or whatever.  

[00:04:07] Unknown:

Well, you know, I mean, I would too, you know, twenty years older than what we are.   I mean, we're gonna look a little haggard and worn and weathered.  

[00:04:18] Rich Chelson:

Not. I hope not. I'm fucking already screwed.  

[00:04:23] Unknown:

Right.   Same here, man. Same here.  

[00:04:27] Rich Chelson:

And, you know, when they say ugly,   goes down to the bone.   Yeah. Mine's  

[00:04:33] Unknown:

embedded in the marrow.  

[00:04:36] Rich Chelson:

Right. It's not   you know?   But it is what it is.  

[00:04:41] Unknown:

Well, that's funny. I I I mean, I knew I knew the, village people were were   older than us, but I didn't know they were that much older than us.  

[00:04:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Because like I said, that was in   that was   early junior high when the YMCA came out.  

[00:05:03] Unknown:

Well, it says that they they begin their career in '77.   So  

[00:05:11] Duuude-Ron :

Can you take that rapid sniffing   on my window on the driver's side? Because it's not the lost   material. Can I be replaced, ET? I don't.  

[00:05:22] Rich Chelson:

Hold on just a second, Rich.  

[00:05:24] Unknown:

Okay.   So we are pausing while   dude is in conversation   and still waiting on Brian to get here   because Brian,   Brian's navy.   Yeah. I'm just I'm just gonna blame everything on Brian being navy tonight   just because   just because he's not here.   So   so you dude and I are army,   and army is like the bomb.   And we give all the navy boys crap. It's funny.   So yeah.   Oh, dude muted me muted himself so I can't hear him talk,   but he can hear me. I know I know he can hear me.   Unless he put his phone down,   which he might have. But   so, yeah, this is how   things go sometimes.  

You know?   Normally,   not always, but you you know?  

[00:06:39] Rich Chelson:

But, It's   it's it's life. Right?  

[00:06:42] Unknown:

It's life. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:06:45] Rich Chelson:

So   when did   Since you're since you're right on that, when did, YMCA   come out?   Because I know that it was big when I was still   heavy into roller skating.  

[00:07:06] Unknown:

Yeah. That's what I was thinking. '78. October of '70 '8.  

[00:07:10] Rich Chelson:

'70 '8. So Yeah.   Hold on just a second. Let me let me do some math. Seventy eight,   eighty seven, there was nine.   So I was   third third grade, fourth grade.  

[00:07:29] Unknown:

What?   What no. You were you were born in I graduated. You were born in '68. '80 '6. I graduated in '86.   Yeah. But, Aldi, you were born in,   '68. Right?  

[00:07:42] Rich Chelson:

'67.  

[00:07:44] Unknown:

'60 '7? Okay. That's eleven years. You were fifth, sixth grade.  

[00:07:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. I was   still I was still probably   forty to fifty hours a week on roller skates.  

[00:08:02] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:08:03] Rich Chelson:

That's great. That was the good old days.   That was the shit.   Yeah. When, actually, when, you know, you had   outdoor skates and a lot of people, you know,   rode their skates   outdoors.   We used to do in Downtown Lincoln.  

[00:08:23] Unknown:

Well, back then, you didn't have as much traffic as I have now.  

[00:08:28] Rich Chelson:

Well and you don't   and didn't have the crime either. Well, we you know, but it wasn't as prevalent as now where you always have to, you know, look   Five boys. Shoulder look over your shoulder all the time, make sure somebody ain't freaking,   you know,   behind you ready to do harm.  

[00:08:51] Unknown:

Hey, Brian. Since since, you was late, we was   we was knocking on you because you were navy because we've been talking about the village people.  

[00:09:06] Duuude-Ron :

Better than being that cowboy.   What? Dallas Cowboys? No. No. The cowboy and the village people.  

[00:09:14] Unknown:

Oh.  

[00:09:16] Duuude-Ron :

What about him? Oh, he was the one that was the most obvious than gay.  

[00:09:21] Unknown:

Actually, there was one All of them were, but I I No. No. No. No. No. No. Oh. There was one   that was not   gay. We just I just I just looked it up.  

[00:09:37] Rich Chelson:

Which one was not?   Which one wasn't?  

[00:09:41] Unknown:

Hang on.   Let me bring him back up. Does the cop was?  

[00:09:48] Rich Chelson:

The Indian was? The Indian  

[00:09:50] Duuude-Ron :

was?  

[00:09:52] Unknown:

It says,   Victor Willis, the original lead singer   and one of the only straight members of the group,   and he's 73.   So   And he was the cop? Oh, no. Yeah. Victor Willis was a cop. He was straight. And Ray Simpson   replaced Victor Willis as a cop   and was a member for over thirty years.   So   yeah. It was yeah. That's   that's crazy.  

[00:10:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And we didn't we didn't care if they were   gay, straight, or whatever. You know?   We did the YMCA   signs when,   When we heard them.  

[00:10:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. When we listened to the song. Yeah. Yeah. Well, same same way as whenever you heard Money Money by   Billy Idol.   You know the words to say on that, don't you?  

[00:10:50] Unknown:

Never paid attention.  

[00:10:51] Duuude-Ron :

You know, I've been not paid.  

[00:10:53] Unknown:

What? I was a weird thing between Yeah. Yeah. Pay and get yeah. Hey, motherfucker. Get laid. Get you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:11:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Money money.   Billy  

[00:11:09] Unknown:

oh, what is the last name?  

[00:11:11] Rich Chelson:

Billy Idol.   Yeah. Hey. You know where that   where that song Money Money actually came from?  

[00:11:20] Duuude-Ron :

Now you know that that It's it's a it's a re it's a, it's a cover.   I know that.  

[00:11:28] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. It's a bad That's, yeah, that's not an original   or yeah. Billy Idol,   covered  

[00:11:36] Duuude-Ron :

it. Just just   grooved it up.  

[00:11:41] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. And  

[00:11:44] Unknown:

It was it was it was released in 1968   by Tommy James and the Shondells.   Oh,  

[00:11:53] Duuude-Ron :

there you go. And then,  

[00:11:56] Unknown:

Billy Idol did his version,   and that's when it took off.  

[00:12:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Showed up in all the all the dance clubs and   yep. They had they had raised the roof with that little chant.  

[00:12:15] Unknown:

Oh, hey, Brian. I I got thinking about something.   Last night when we was talking, we're saying this guy was throwing ducks at dude's jeep from way up high at that place  

[00:12:25] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Central.  

[00:12:28] Unknown:

Come to find out,   he was he's former coast guard.  

[00:12:34] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   that would explain why he's a little weird.  

[00:12:40] Unknown:

Oh, he's a nice guy, but No. I told him I told him I was like I was like, dude, you're the second person I've met from the Coast Guard.   I says I've   you're only the second person, man.  

[00:12:56] Duuude-Ron :

They are few and far between, and they do not like to advertise themselves.  

[00:13:01] Unknown:

And I don't get it. I don't know why.   You know?   Yeah.   I don't know. I mean I mean,   I have no idea.  

[00:13:15] Duuude-Ron :

No idea, myself?  

[00:13:17] Unknown:

Nope.   So what have y'all been doing today?  

[00:13:25] Duuude-Ron :

What do you got? You because I'm sure you got something. I will we can talk about you first.  

[00:13:31] Unknown:

Talk about me.   I ain't got nothing really. Not today. I didn't I didn't do much today.  

[00:13:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And yeah. Because you got the because you got the grass mowed.  

[00:13:46] Duuude-Ron :

He's got Sunday.  

[00:13:48] Unknown:

Yeah. Yesterday, I got the grass mowed.  

[00:13:50] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Yesterday.  

[00:13:52] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:13:55] Duuude-Ron :

So he's all That was His grass is nice and short, and so he's just   didn't have a   doesn't have much to do other than, you know, talk to folks on try to talk to folks on the, in the state next, and stayed over. So  

[00:14:11] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Ham radio's been shit.  

[00:14:15] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my   god, dude. Yeah. Adam Curry talking about how bad it was.   Uh-huh. That said, Adam Curry's been been talking a little bit about how Oh, well. Yeah. The band's been. So Oh, yeah. This week this week, we had a g four that just totally  

[00:14:35] Unknown:

decimated   basically   HF.   And, I mean, it's it's now it's now coming back. So   so,  

[00:14:44] Duuude-Ron :

I cannot be That's probably the reason why the government gave up those frequencies. I was like, god. I let the amateur,   ham folks have fun with this bullshit.   Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Somebody Somebody sneezes too hard, and all of a sudden,   the the frequencies go out.  

[00:15:00] Unknown:

No. No. Some of the, HF frequencies,  

[00:15:04] Duuude-Ron :

military still owns them. Oh, no. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I just they've got a lot of the   certain bands.  

[00:15:11] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. They got well, they got 60 meters, which is five megahertz. We've only got,   five channels there   or five frequencies we can use. The rest of the rest of, 60 meters is   military.  

[00:15:25] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.  

[00:15:27] Unknown:

And then,   let's see. 30 meters   or   no. Yeah. 30 meters is is mostly,   military and and   government offices and stuff. So,   yeah, even even the freaking government's been   been affected by all this because it's I mean,   the sun just huked.   It   just just knocked out radio like   crazy.   So No.  

[00:15:59] Duuude-Ron :

So You're on. What about you?  

[00:16:02] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I've had a double run today.   Yay.   That that was a lot of fun.   Ended up being a   twelve hour   Okay.  

[00:16:17] Unknown:

So   Money. Money. Money. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:16:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. And,   you know, where we have to go in at Giddings is behind,   through an alleyway.   Right?   And   right on either sides of the entrance to this alley to the back   gate,   to get into the retail store, there's a telephone pole or there's pull, like, right   on both sides of this alley.   And it is tight. So you have   to go from   the far side of the street if nobody is parked there,   come up, and then   as you're coming in,   your   mirror is about an inch   from the pole on the left, and then your trail the big the star of the,   trailer is about one to two inches from that same pole.  

And then as you're pulling in, as close as you can get to the building   on the driver's side,   which is a warehouse   of some some kind.   As you're coming in, even though though you're cramped into that building there,   you probably have about one to two inches on the back of the trailer on the passenger side   from that pole.   Well, they're doing some   concrete   for   it's a like a   oh,   it's not a gym. It's like a   for lack of a better word, it's a gym, and they do tie tractor tires on, you know, the outside of the building in their   parking lot area,   kinda like a military type training gym stuff.  

I don't know. I don't go to them. So as I'm rolling tractor tire like like tractor tires?   Yeah. How you lift up Okay. Yeah.  

[00:18:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's, CrossFit.  

[00:18:21] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I'll I believe you. I ain't doing it.   Yeah.   I just shall know.   I earned this goddamn fucking   body that I now have.   So but, anyway,   we regress.   So as I'm pulling in,   you know, I'm more concerned about my trailer hitting the pole   than the concrete   forms   that I was   rolling over   getting through this alley.   And, I mean, they and they had the forms all the way up past the pole   for the new sidewalk.   I'm like   and I glanced   on the mirror, and there was a cone. I said, I'm about ready to run over the cone, and then I ran over the freaking forms for the   sidewalk. I'm like,   you know what?  

You shouldn't have put them there because I mean,   I crushed that wood.   I bet they were highly ticked off.  

[00:19:25] Duuude-Ron :

I bet they weren't happy.  

[00:19:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I'm sure. But, you know, when I   left   through the front gate because we come in through the back and that that place only has enough room   for   a big truck   and then a couple of customers,   maybe.   Yep.   Once a customer's vehicle comes into their   serving dock for the cylinders,   I can't load   the passenger side of the truck   until they leave. So that's how I type that.   And so when I left to go out,   I don't know if they saw me, but the,   construction   crew was there. I'm like, no. You know what?   Bet you understand now why  

[00:20:12] Duuude-Ron :

those You picked your toys up.  

[00:20:15] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. What Rabbit. Those,   those forms were crushed.   So I guess I'll reset them, pour the concrete, and then   he helps it pour the concrete on Monday, and I go back there on Tuesday.   I guess I know what's gonna be the first print into the concrete.   Gonna be it's gonna be my trailer tire.  

[00:20:38] Duuude-Ron :

Alright. They'll they'll realize oh, wait a minute. Yeah. We need a comp we need to allow for that. So we need to change the form up just a little bit, curve that around just a bit more.  

[00:20:47] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   And it is not gonna hurt my feelings one bit.  

[00:20:54] Duuude-Ron :

But,   when is there not a is there a does the alley that you pull into, is it continue on, across the road, or is it, is there a building that just kinda dead ends that that road  

[00:21:06] Rich Chelson:

or that that alley? Well, the alley, it dead ends   at the dumpster   and the back gate   to our retail store.   Okay. So the the the distance of the alley is about   maybe two semis with track or with trailers.   That's how long the alley is. Nope. So when it comes into a dumpster,   and then it's a tight squeeze into the back gate, but it is maneuverable.   Okay. Just   barely missing the   the post for the fence on the driver's side and then squeezing the trailer through. So, you know, it's about two inches on either side by the time you get,   navigated through and get into get onto a lot.  



[00:21:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. I just know that there whenever I was hauling groceries, there was a couple of,   places that were real   tight kinda like that also.   And there was a couple where they had two telephone poles, one on each side of the damn entrance to the to the alley that you had to pull into, and you're like going, how the hell are you supposed to get in there without rubbing up against one of those poles?   And,   what what a lot of people did is they would go the go down one block   and enter in the alley at the next place because there was no poles there   in the way. So they could just okay. They just pull straight through there through go through that that alley,   cross the street, and go into the, go over the alley that was   that was causing the problems.  

And, if it's getting let it out, that's because we have gotten some rain.   So If you're just a little bit of rain or a lot of rain?   A little bit of rain and a little bit of hail. We got a little bit of pea sized hail bouncing off and stuff too. So   we'll do some live weather update. Oh. My passenger window's open.  

[00:23:07] Rich Chelson:

And you're get probably getting pelted.  

[00:23:10] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I wasn't getting pelted. I was just,   I just have to look over and saw that my hat was getting wet.  

[00:23:18] Rich Chelson:

Serves your serves you right. Yeah. You're gonna leave your you're gonna leave your window open,   when it's raining?  

[00:23:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're gonna get wet.   I'm gonna get wet. Yep.  

[00:23:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You're gonna get wet.  

[00:23:32] Duuude-Ron :

So, so,   Rich, sorry about that. I didn't mean to cut you off the way you kinda ended it. I was like, oh, we're gonna get stopped, so listen. You know, I was tripping moving and all of a sudden, just like, oh, daddy. I cut raw. I cut Rich off. So No. It's okay. That's what they did.   So didn't mean to. So, anyhow,   me, what happened? What happened today? Well, got home. This I have been fighting   with my   with the website. The the Malaria? Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a bad case of malaria. I got it from,   whatever I was hiking across,   hiking across,   India   the other day. So Yeah.  

But,   I've got an I've got a new website that I'm playing around with. It's, it's the ready without fear,   site.   Yeah. And   I I like   a particular   type of editing software   that you could tap onto,   onto the back end of of WordPress.   And the and the software is called Gutenberg's. It uses,   the Gutenberg   block system   and adds to it and allows for several different really nice features to happen,   to   allow you to be able to customize your site.   Mhmm. And,   so I I love using Gutenberg. The only problem that I have is that,   for whatever reason,   works great on on   the next mail site, but   on,   on the radio without beer,   everything works like it's supposed to until you get to the blog post themselves.  

K. And then there is no formatting   except for line breaks,   for paragraph breaks.  

[00:25:34] Unknown:

No bold. No nothing? No. You can  

[00:25:38] Duuude-Ron :

you can try to bold. You can you can try to tell us that you can well,   you could try to make,   do the different headings.   So you can have you can try put in there put in the back end. You could say h two. It's a it's supposed to be a big, large build   heading,   and you can put, like, an h three and an h four, which are all just slightly smaller versions of of a heading.   Yeah.   So that you're able to tell go tell your readers and Google at the same time that, hey. This is a very structured in information,   and Google likes it. People like it. Nobody likes it, and it's a good thing.   Well, whenever I put throw get finished putting everything into the, into the back end of the editor,   it's all comes out it shows to be edited just fine. And one of the new versions of,   of WordPress that's out is that you can actually even view the   the theme   through the back end also. So you can hit, show in theme, and it'll pop up, and there's your there's your your your,   your heading, your subheadings,   all the information. They're they're even, got a got a extra lot double space between the,   between the paragraphs. It looks great. It's very, very,   visually pleasing and and all that   until you hit publish, and then you gotta look at it on the live side of the damn website.  

And then it turns into just a solid block of text.   And you gotta look at it, and there's no, you know, there's no formatting   of of,   of information on there. It doesn't say, you know, it's not,   you know, pair,   p   space,   class equals, you know,   paragraph or p equals,   you know, yeah, paragraph,   close quotes,   close caret.   It's just   paragraph. And so it's you would think, alright. Well, let's just throw in some,   on some some   some CSS,   in the extra CSS option there and see what that does. No. No. It doesn't   do it's not.   Oh,   that's   Just dawned on me. I wonder if that might be the problem. But it works on,  

[00:28:05] Unknown:

relaxed mail. Right?  

[00:28:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah.   I'm gonna have to try something else whenever I get back because,   one of the big things that always   that has always caused problems in the past   is there is   a site optimization plugin that I also like to use.   And from time to time and what   the   different things that people recommend. Here's here's some s some highly gripping SEO talk.   Is Google is when you're if you want your site to   speed up   on on what it,   on on what it serves to your to your readers,   one of the things that Google recommends   is and the reason why I go off of Google is because they have a speed test,   and they give you you hints, tips, and things like that that'll make your site faster so that they will actually recommend your site more.  

Because if you got a fast site, Google loves you, and they're gonna give you they're gonna   give supposed to   serve you higher in the,   in the algorithms.   Okay. So   so the faster you have sites you have, the better the better the site,   will be.   So one of the things they do is   as you   add stuff to your site, there's gonna be little packages of, like, JavaScript   and other other things that are laced in there. They're usually just kinda tacked on, so you may have, like,   window motion   dot, dot j s. Maybe it's JavaScript,   item that makes the windows,   a a picture slide into,   in in the view, or maybe you've got an intermodal,   interstitial line that   that will pop after thirty seconds. And so that's gonna be a little extra JavaScript,   that's added into,   added onto the site.  

And so instead of   having your having your browser   go out and go, I need this and having the the hosting,   site go look look through everything and go, oh, here's that, here's that file you need and send it over,   they recommend   just taking everything, putting it into one file,   and sending it over.   And the,   the   the SEO site or the speeding,   the caching site that, plugin I use   does that. It takes all the all the,   the JavaScript,   and and things like that,   pushes them into one file so that you're able to do just one   file each time. And if first needs it, though, they've already got it in their in their memory,   and they can just pluck what they need off of there.  

The problem is is that you can't just   mash   everything on the man in there because there's gonna be some things that are compatible with other things that are not compatible with other things.   And a lot of times that happens. What I'll do what will happen is I've got, like, my top,   five   blog posts,   that, that I like to put up.   So   that just helps, you know, people who first come, they're like, oh, what's this? And they can look off off to the side and see, oh, well, here's the top five.   And then go, okay. Well, that one looks interesting. Click through it, and I get to keep people on my site just a little bit longer, which again, Google enjoys. And and so you get   to you get to,   have them on your site for another minute or two.  



[00:31:50] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:31:52] Duuude-Ron :

So   doing that,   allows for,   well, yeah, allows for for people to stay. But it also   if,   let the caching site smash everything, it will kill that top pin. It'll just say, hey. The here's or the top five posts. It'll just say give the the header title, which is top five posts, and underneath it is   nothing. You know? It's just there.   And, took a long time for me to finally realize that, oh, wait a minute. You gotta take that JavaScript,   package out, and it's gotta be served on its own or it just didn't gonna freaking work.   And it just dawned on me that that's   an issue that I ran into   all run WordPress. So it could be that there's some type of incompatibility   because it's already gone through smashed everything.  

So I may need to go through and retry   try that. But at the same time, I've I've   got a different,   I I worked with that for   a good off and on,   during my six day off period.   Good. But then yeah. And then,   I was working on it a bit to to,   today.   It was like and, you know, I I'd worked all night, drove all night, so I was getting, you know, I was getting cut tires. Like, fucking tug it off. I'll I'll work on this more later. It's not a high priority. It's just something I would like to be able to do. You know, I just what I'm wanna do, this is this is a combination   hobby that will turn into a possible business somewhere down the road. Is my whole line of thinking. I'm not   put I'm not gonna jump on this. I'm not gonna put the pressure on me to   to get this,   to get this to go, you know, start making money tomorrow or anything like that.  

Just I just, you know, I'm I it my end, my end   idea is to have it,   make money, but it doesn't have to make money   tomorrow.  

[00:33:59] Unknown:

Right. Right. So   that is weird, though, that   I mean,   you know, you would think by now they would have stuff   set up to where   like like like, back in the early days of websites,   you know,   the websites that were wysiwygs,   you know, what you see is what you get.   Yeah.   If if if they would go back to that   and, you know, let the back end stuff kinda   be standard.   That would be   because it it do it it just man, this it's   I don't know. It's crazy.  

[00:34:43] Duuude-Ron :

There we go. Sorry. I had turned turned the truck on, and my damn   Jeep   the Bluetooth   from the radio kicked in. So Oh.   And so, all of a sudden, I was like, going, you stopped. And I was like, what? Hello? Hello? Hello? And all of a sudden, you know, skim through the radio. I'm like, okay. Okay.  

[00:35:01] Unknown:

No. I had paused I had paused there for for, I guess Yeah. Because everything got quiet.   Yeah. And I had paused and then and then said, you know.   So, yeah, that's   that was me. I I wasn't trying to mess with your head, but I guess it worked out.  

[00:35:17] Duuude-Ron :

So, y'all, did a good job of it. It's not it's not hard to mess with my head. But, yeah, it's just it those   why it well, I can understand why it's it's,   why it's not always compatible   because, like,   like Windows,   you can have   different,   even,   hardware parts   that are supposed to be compatible   with other hardware parts, not be compatible with our other hardware parts. There's times that a,   that a driver.   Will just   not what we're calling a particular computer.   You take that driver and go put it into another, another computer and, voila, it works and it's improved and everything gets is great.   But, again, it's because of   the other,   the other   little parts that are in that other computer.  

What does the computer a have that is blocking   computer b,   blocking the the drivers   Right. As opposed to what computer b has. So, you know, you may have, like, a, like, a an Intel board   that's got a,   AMD   graphics   card and has a,   shit. I haven't played with, with hard words for damn long. I couldn't tell you what all the names are. I don't even know if AMD is even around or not. So  

[00:36:50] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. A oh, yeah. AMD is is   is still   relevant.   Intel,   the, yeah,   Intel  

[00:37:04] Duuude-Ron :

NVIDIA?   Yeah. Well, there's NVIDIA. There's Intel. There's  

[00:37:10] Unknown:

There's Ryzen for Yeah. For, video cards and stuff like that.  

[00:37:14] Duuude-Ron :

That's that's Ryzen's actually AMD.  

[00:37:17] Unknown:

Well yeah. But yeah. Yeah. AMD Ryzen, but, yeah, Ryzen's still on top.   Nvidia is not bad. In fact, if I remember right, this laptop I got, it's got an n but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's got a it's got an,   Nvidia   gaming card video card in it. But, yeah, you're right. Sometimes between,   you know,   computers like that,   it's it's a hardware. But, see, this is a software.   So it sounds like it it sounds like one of your sites or, you know, one of the sites you use   is not allowing,   information  

[00:37:58] Duuude-Ron :

from another one. Yeah. And that's where that's where I'm getting the, well, I might wanna let's   uninstall   the,   I may may reinstall   reinstall the,   Hootenverse,   plugins,   again and see   and disable   the   the caching.   No? Because I went off and I,   disabled all the all the other plug ins except for Gutenberg just to see if everything started working right again, and it still didn't.  

[00:38:31] Unknown:

Okay. Did you did you,   update   Gutenberg?  

[00:38:37] Duuude-Ron :

Everything's up to,   as the is latest version released version. Yeah. So It could be. I I mean, honestly,  

[00:38:44] Unknown:

it it very well could be that,   the, update   is is is causing the problem.   What if you try to hold it back?  

[00:38:55] Duuude-Ron :

I'd I'd have to see if see if if I can find,   well, actually, I know that there's a site out there because, there was,   there was,   a,   John c Deborack was talking about it   on, on no agenda. Let's see here.   Flux contact oldversion.com.   Yeah.   It's the oops.   Oldversion.com   is supposed to have just I mean, it's got, like   let's see here.   It's got WinROW,   Neo,   different types of daemon tools and utilities.  

[00:39:38] Unknown:

God. Nero is a name I haven't heard in a while.  

[00:39:42] Duuude-Ron :

See what else. UTorrent, and you played with uTorrent.   Let's see here. Windows,   games, graphics,   FileZilla,   old versions of FileZilla   developments.   So, yeah, file share. You got LimeWire, BearShare, Utor, BitTorrent,   BitComet,   Otter's Galaxy, Kazaa. Oh my god. Kazaa.   Azure's   email. Every I use just about every single one of those at least once.  

[00:40:15] Unknown:

I used to use LiveWire a lot.  

[00:40:18] Duuude-Ron :

LiveWire,   Utah was kinda my favorite for for a long while.   But, yeah, it gives you different types of oh, hey. There's Winamp.  

[00:40:32] Unknown:

I   I've read Winamp is still actually relevant.  

[00:40:37] Duuude-Ron :

Winamp is still there. It's just not Winamp.   It's not the Winamp that you and I grew up with.  

[00:40:46] Unknown:

No. It's been updated.  

[00:40:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, no. It's not even I mean, they don't it's not a music player anymore.  

[00:40:54] Unknown:

You sure about that? Yeah.   Because   I thought   I mean   I mean, it's been a while since I've,   I think it was last year when I   was   kinda looking at it.  

[00:41:10] Duuude-Ron :

But now it's what's next? Let's see here.   Okay. Okay. Yeah. You pull up winapp.com.   Win app builds tools that now,   it says, what's next? Win app builds tools that empowers artists to manage their music and revenue while delivering a player that, offers a seamless   listening experience. It's not an m p three player like, like what we used to have that had the really cool visuals and stuff. So Yeah. You don't have the zone rings anymore.  

[00:41:40] Unknown:

That's just rude.   Yeah. They Yeah. I I mean, it's still out. I guess I guess it's still  

[00:41:46] Duuude-Ron :

something. It says there's a Winamp player.  

[00:41:48] Unknown:

But Yeah. It it says   it. But  

[00:41:51] Duuude-Ron :

And for the nostalgic,   there is legacy player developer.   So they've got the old legacy stuff. So  

[00:42:00] Unknown:

Okay. So you can still get the old Winamp if you want. But Yep. Yep. You can go to,  

[00:42:07] Duuude-Ron :

yep, oldversion.com   and be able to snag it.  

[00:42:11] Unknown:

Ah, shit. On the Winamp.com   under player,   you can download the Windows legacy player.  

[00:42:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's what it's,   you can get the   I guess people were throwing too big of a fit about it or something because yeah.   Looking in there, it's a k light codec.   That's Power DVD,   Macromedia   Flash. You still wanna use Flash?  

[00:42:34] Unknown:

No. I'm good.  

[00:42:37] Duuude-Ron :

Flash Man, I used to love   playing with Macromedia   Flash.  

[00:42:42] Unknown:

Right. I I never did figure that one out.  

[00:42:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, it was I mean, it wasn't hard. You had to   I mean, you had to creatively acquire   the the software because, I mean, if you went off and went to Macromedia and wanted to download their their suite of tools, so you got, like, Dreamweaver and   and Flash and Shockwave   and,   and,   and Fireworks   and and all the other,   other   forms of software. You know? It was a lot like Adobe, which is who bought Mac Media up.   Yeah.   But,   a lot like Adobe where you got the suite for, like, $500,   and I was like, nobody got time for that. And so Right. Now we go to because our LimeWire and get it. Yeah. Yeah. You'd go over there and get you know, then run it through about seven different,   antiviruses   to make sure that there wasn't something in there.  

Right. Right. Still have all that there was something in there. And  

[00:43:45] Unknown:

Yo.  

[00:43:46] Duuude-Ron :

And, yeah, they install it. But   You had it for free. Yeah. You had it for free, and it, you know, it did what it you wanted it to, and I hell, I it's kinda like, Matt and Photoshop.   You know? I can I was in Fireworks and and,   Dreamweaver   and,   and and   Flash?   Flash Studio was just the shit, man. I could, I mean, I couldn't I couldn't be quite as flat. I wouldn't be able to make, like,   do,   do music videos like they,   like they did,   for, what is it? Czar?   Yeah. Czar.   Their song back in the early,   actually,   late nineties,   late late late nineties, like, '99,   or or right up to February. I can't remember exactly where it was in that, but, they did a did a music video out of Flash   to their song, don't wanna break up.  

Really? That was a yeah. Yeah. It was it was   absolutely kick ass. River walked gone over, and first time I got introduced to Flash was,   whenever I was working over,   over I can't remember the name of the building, but I was living in Dallas.   And there was,   I decided I was gonna go,   there was a   a company that was wanting,   started out asking for tech support people.   And then all of a sudden, those tech support people were like, oh, yeah. We're gonna have y'all, sitting here just, cold calling   everybody and would throw down   the this is back when Internet first was come it was was,   available for everybody. So it was,   they still had, phone books. And we're in the DFW area, so they would hand us a town. So I'd get, like, the phone book for Garland.  

And they're like, alright. Just start in the a and just keep going through until and,   go through the yellow pages and all.   And so   if there for about a week and a half, I was one of those annoying sons of bitches. But while we live, no one was there. One of the things they were they discovered was,   one of the things I found was a site that was,   based all in,   in Flash, and there was a damn cool site.   And,   hell, I and   then, then shortly oh, probably about,   about year after that when, discovered,   when Zippo used to have a flash based site.   And that was way, way lighter? Yeah.  

Uh-huh.   Yeah. You go and you'd   you know, whenever you moused over the, over the light of the it would flip open. You'd hear the shink   and all. And it was it was a badass side. It was really, really cool.   So,   there's a lot of really cool things that was done with Flash. Was it, was it security risk? Yeah.   Yeah. You could definitely serve,   files,   through I mean, hell, they   you they had Flash uploaders. So you could, you could actually upload,   upload stuff to,   to a host or or send it to other people by, you know, through through Flash. And so it's just set a bit of JavaScript so you threw it in there.   Right. And and so, yeah, you could,   you could definitely   go and   slip a slip a a,   a Trojan horse into,   into a, an ad somewhere or an ad or a   a   a a digital   application of some sort,   website, and you can sit there and infect people with it. So, yeah, there was a I agree. There was definitely a lot of   lot of, of of security issues with it, but at the same time, I mean, hell, man. That stuff was that was stuff was great. You can make your own cartoons   and   Well   well, dude, back in the day, I mean,   what was security?  



[00:48:09] Unknown:

I mean,  

[00:48:10] Duuude-Ron :

it they're just Yeah. It wouldn't use password one two three.   Yeah. And if you really wanted to be secure really if you were forced to be really secure, it was password one two three exclamation point.  

[00:48:23] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That that just threw   yeah.   But still   still backed in, you could get a a password hacker and and run it and Oh, yeah. Brew Forster. I mean, hell, I used to have fun with those.  

[00:48:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I used to play it for I   I I never was a never was a   what you might call an actual, an actual hacker, but, damn, I used to play with that stuff. I I I wanted to envision myself as a as a as a, you know,   a a a mean hacker. So   but not that I was ever gonna be able to be one.  

[00:49:00] Unknown:

Right. Right. Yeah. I tried to play with it a little bit, and I'm like, yeah. No. I don't wanna   you know, I I mean, I was working too much, and and,   you know, I still like doing other things.  

[00:49:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I mean, I   I I messed around with, what was it, back worthless for a one   and Cain and Abel   was, was another,   hacking,   utility that,   that was that was prevalent. And   overall, both both had a lot of, lot of uses. I mean, I knew how to go off, take you'd   configure your your server,   throw it inside of   a inside of a,   of a stub file, what they call the stub file.   And,   that way you could actually,   that's how they that's how the hackers normally would go up and do it. They would have a stub file, and it would   it would execute two two commands basically at the same time. It would execute your your   your your server,   installer, but it also would   execute the,   the install of whatever   program you actually were wanting to have. So   Right.  

And so you could you could do it like that.   And   yeah. I got I mean, I've and I got a couple people.   You know, caught a couple people with with something similar to that. But, I mean, it was it wasn't anything that   all you had to do, it there was just the the idiots that I was, I was staggered that didn't have any type of, antivirus on their computer. So because, I mean, all you had to do is just run run antivirus, and you   you picked up everything that that might be thrown in there.  

[00:50:46] Unknown:

Yeah.   No. Yeah. Back in the day, it was it was   it was a wild, wild west. It was fun.  

[00:50:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. It was a lot of fun.  

[00:50:57] Unknown:

But if you were on the wrong end,   you know, I mean, it turned a lot of people off.   Yeah.   You know? But still,   it was it was still fun to play around with computers. Oh, it's a lot of fun to play around with.   Yeah. Now   now, shit, you need a college degree, it seems like. I mean, you need a No. I mean   Oh, well, you just need to spend time staring at a computer.  

[00:51:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You just need to spend time with it. I mean, it's like   like AI. I mean, it's   to   become a proficient   at being a prop jockey, you just have to sit there and   learn how to talk to the damn machine. So   and it's basically, that's what you're doing. You have them well, you have to learn how to talk to it in a way to get it to do what you want it to do. I mean, there's   Yeah. People that actually program,   program   using AI, and they call it byte coding from what   what very, very little I know. Of course, that's what I think I may most people just pulled it off pulled off on it because that's what,   Adam Prairie calls   calls his his form of coating. So Okay.  

Yeah. I just  

[00:52:12] Unknown:

I don't know. I I   like I said, back in the day, I tried to play around with it. And after a while, I'm like, you know what? I'm a let everybody else   do that. Now I   I I'll just take what's   what they make and,   you know, have fun with it. Yeah.   Yeah. I just I just gave it up.   Yeah. In couple weeks, about three weeks,   I think. I got field day coming up.  

[00:52:45] Duuude-Ron :

Hey.  

[00:52:46] Unknown:

Yeah. So,   yes, on the twenty eighth and twenty ninth.   So   everybody in in The US will be on the   AM radio waves.   Yeah. Field day field day is like is like,   well, it's I mean I mean, you know, it's always open to everybody, but this is where Hamza go out into   parks and stuff like that.   And people can come up and ask questions and, even   even get on the air.   Right.   You know, it it's   field day, its main purpose is to,   make contacts   like like it's,   like, The US is going through a disaster   or whatnot. Right.   And and, you know, trying to get, you know, contacts or messages through or whatnot,   and that's that's what field day is. Okay. Okay. And and you got guys that stay home like like I'm gonna do, but then you got guys that, you know, go out in the parks in different areas   and set up antennas   and, operate on,   totally either generators, batteries, solar panels, wind.  

Any way they can power,   a transmission.   So   but, yeah, this will be the first one in   eighteen   years.   Alright. Yeah. Well,   this will be my second one ever.  

[00:54:22] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:54:23] Unknown:

Because my first one I did in o eight, I believe,   if I remember right.   And then,   so it'd be seventeen years this year.   The first one I did in o eight, and that was god. That was fun. I love that.   And it   yeah. Yeah. It's freaking taking me this long to get   to get, back to it.   But I got it set on my calendar.   Yeah. I showed dude my radio. He's like, holy fuck. That thing's big.  

[00:54:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is. It's not it's not your little Cobra.  

[00:55:01] Unknown:

Let's just say this. You ain't gonna just walk in and pick it up and walk out even though it does have a carry handle. You gonna see that.  

[00:55:09] Duuude-Ron :

You know? It's big enough. It's actually got a kid's own carry handle.  

[00:55:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. It does.   It has a carry handle in   it. Yeah. It's yeah. It's it's not like   oh, I'm I'm I'm, starting a song for Elise   by   Daytona.  

[00:55:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, oh, oh, okay. It's,   it's like starting on that.   Because the way I I heard it was that you were starting a free   lease.   And I was like, oh, but you own a house. Why are you doing a free what is this? I I don't understand. Okay. Okay. Yeah.   Yeah.   The the song for your lease. Okay.  

[00:55:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry.  

[00:55:58] Duuude-Ron :

It's like, what the hell is off for song free release? I don't know. You just don't get it.  

[00:56:04] Unknown:

Yeah. That was that was my fault, the way   I explain things sometimes. But, yeah, I'm starting that song.   Learning that   song. And that one, I I like that one. The left hand work on it though. Oh my god. The left hand work is just insane.  

[00:56:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're gonna you're gonna you're gonna have some   gonna wind up one day finding out your you've got, you're not gonna know what your right hand is doing as opposed to what your left hand is because all of a sudden, it's gonna go off and do its own little thing.  

[00:56:36] Unknown:

That's what I'm trying to get to now   is is because   because, I had to go Tuesday, right, and,   and and and do a makeup lesson.   And,   I was talking with my teacher, and and and   he was watch me play with my right hand.   My right hand's fairly strong, and and I can keep,   you know,   pretty good time with my right hand.   I'm playing notes.   But but my left hand's weak.   And so so yeah. I mean, that's   that's exactly what I'm working on now is   to try and get my left hand to operate independently   of my right hand. So,   you know, as I'm reading the music, my right hand is just playing, and then my left hand will kick in when need you know, when it needs.   So, yeah, that's and I tell you what, man. That's a challenge. Oh my god. That's a challenge. Because I gotta read two lines of notes   because the top line is right. The bottom line is the left hand. Left hand. Yep.  

Then I have to send those notes to both my hands on and and then   have them push the right notes   on the   piano on the keyboard.   That's a challenge. I'm telling you it's a challenge.  

[00:57:57] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, well, then you go up and you got   a light and bug and all what you're doing in my in my truck or how long you've been in my truck. We'll get you out. Go find a girl.   Yeah. No. It's it's kinda like, drummers. I mean, I've still always been astounded by drummers because they will they'll drop one one beat and one one rhythm on the with one hand, one beat and one rhythm with another hand, and another beat and another rhythm within the foot and and   have a completely different one with their with their other foot. It's like Yep.   How do you do that?  

Aw, man. My fucking coffee cup's dripping.   This is the problem with having,   having paper cups.  

[00:58:39] Unknown:

Yeah. That that sucks, man.  

[00:58:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, I went off and forgot my coffee cup over at the, over at the house. So   but,   Yeah. So I've been using using paper cups   from   the from the, from the truck stop.   Right. Which I don't know why they use paper. Go back to Styrofoam people. This shit's a lot better.  

[00:59:02] Unknown:

So Oh,   yeah.  

[00:59:05] Duuude-Ron :

And I also discovered something about,   Right. About silk because I've got a whatever reason, I had a really big thermos, or I still have a really big thermos.   And, one of the ways to save money, I was like, alright. Well, let's utilize big thermos. And I've grabbed thermos, and I've,   unscrewed it, and I've cleaned everything out. And I went to screw it back on. When I did, it went it's rolled all the way down. It went thunk and rolled and and went back to the other way about, you know, like, sixteenth of a turn.   I was like, what the? And I clunk clunk, and I looked, and I've lost the, lost the o ring   Mhmm. The gasket in the, in the, in the hip.  

I was like, son of a gun. This ain't good. I've gotta figure out. So I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna   got around looking around, and I had some silicone.   I was like, alright. Well, let's just use some silicone. Put it in there, and then let it set for the rest of the time. I was you know, this is like,   this is like the day two of my six day deal, and I was like, alright. Let's let's do that. Let's put some silicone in there. That'll let it cure,   and,   and we'll,   we'll we'll go from, we'll go from there.   Uh-huh. Well, first   day, first forty four hours later, I was like, let's I kinda test it. I was like, wow, that's really fucking soft.  

And I kinda went ahead and put it on there and then took it back off, and I was like, oh, yeah. We cut right into that. I got silicone all along the lip. I was like, oh, this ain't gonna work. So I cleaned there. I cleaned the lip off   and and all that and   and kinda smooth the,   the, the silicone out a little bit. It's like, alright. Well, we're we'll just leave it alone until it feels nice and rubbery like it's supposed to.   Well, day six, it still wasn't a %   as rubbery as I thought it needed to be.   And I was like, nah. Too hot, dude.   It's too hot?  



[01:01:00] Unknown:

Yeah. Silicone, it it should. Less less of silicone,   froze over the winter, and it's an old tube.   Oh, not not falling. Why?  

[01:01:13] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. It's I mean, it it it it possibly could have. I mean, it is my house, and wintertime, it gets fucking cold in there.  

[01:01:20] Unknown:

Well, the, yeah, you see silicone,   if it if it freezes in the tube or it gets, you know, if it, yeah, if it freezes in the tube, it's it's shot.   Well, that's that's been with my   experiences.   Yeah. That's why that's   why I try and keep my silicone  

[01:01:40] Duuude-Ron :

as warm as possible, at least at least over I sleep with my silicone because, by god, it is not gonna get cold.   Right. Right.  

[01:01:49] Unknown:

No. As long as I keep it up over 40, you know, it's you know?  

[01:01:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It should still work. Yeah. That could be the issue because, yeah, after six days, it's and I went ahead and I was, like, screwed it on there. And I was like   and take back and   or, actually, I went off and I was like, alright. Well, the first night day, I went through the everything still it still felt rather you   know, the surface was nice and firm. It was nice and solid there, but it was still just really, really gushy.   And I was like, alright. Well, let's just let's just let it be we'll just let it be, and we'll just see what, what happens.   And so probably the,   first, night that I got up, I had to go to work. I filled my coffee pot, my thermos up and put the put the lid on on and it's like, alright.  

And I tilted it sideways. No. Yeah. We're we're good. And so I went down, and I as I,   got,   went to shut the door.   All of a sudden, I noticed   my leg starting to get wet.   I looked and there it was drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. I was like, so no. So I get over get down to the car, unscrew it, and, yeah, I got silicone all over the damn lip of the freaking, freaking,   mouth of the, of the thermos. And I was like, son of a damn it. Sorry.   And, and stuff. And, I mean, it's all it they're all cut and it's still all wet on the inside and uncured. And I was like, son of a bitch. I was like, what? How long does this stuff take to cure? I didn't think it took that long.   So I take a so never mind. We're just going to do it this way. And I just took some I take some paper towel, and I'd roll it up and put make it just kind of a an absorbent,   layer for the,   for the coffee, and I would just make sure that it stayed stayed upright.  

Right. I used to   and after so that was Tuesday, Wednesday,   or well, yeah. Tuesday night, Wednesday night. So to, so tonight   yeah. Last yesterday,   I noticed that as I,   would take the lid off, I haven't looked down, and there were little beads of silicone that were squirting out from underneath the, underneath the   the paper towel. And I was like, okay. Okay. We're just this thing is just not curing for whatever reason. And so, yeah, today, I was started scraping all the all the crap out of there. And, yeah, I'd say probably 75%   of it was still freaking wet. I was just like, oh, I'm like, okay. Well, that ain't gonna work. I'm gonna get that all cleaned up this, this,   this, this weekend, and we're gonna get, gonna get this damn thing taken care of. It's because, yeah, that was  

[01:04:33] Unknown:

that's a That is weird.  

[01:04:36] Duuude-Ron :

And it just would not   freaking cure it. I was like, oh, but I thought I could've sworn. I swore it's like, all that I think of is, well, maybe it's got a problem with   damn it. My this coffee I'm gonna I'm gonna cry.   Damn it. I don't lose my freaking coffee cup.   I might have to, etcetera,   sit around with the   buy a new roll of paper towels because by the time I get finished with all the coffee, I'm this cup's probably gonna be disintegrated.  

[01:05:06] Unknown:

Right.   Where'd you get his coffee? Hell, it goes or something.  

[01:05:11] Duuude-Ron :

No. Oh, there there's   a the the local truck stop is called the Gore Travel Plaza.  

[01:05:17] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[01:05:18] Duuude-Ron :

And, they've got paper cups.   Why? Paper cups? Get two.   I'm gonna have to. That way, it works through both of them.  

[01:05:29] Unknown:

I  

[01:05:30] Rich Chelson:

I've done that before. Yet, just don't forget your coffee cup at the fucking house. Well, it's the the come  

[01:05:37] Duuude-Ron :

the day off. That's I'm gonna   I'm I'm taking off to the to the Casa and grabbing it. So  

[01:05:43] Unknown:

Right. Well, yeah, see, that's the thing, though, because, anytime I leave the house,   you know, my, my coffee cup you know, if I'm taking coffee with me, my coffee cup is one of the first things that goes in the Jeep.  

[01:05:56] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, jeez, man. This thing's springing a leak all over the damn place. I've got three leaks now.  

[01:06:02] Unknown:

Damn, dude.  

[01:06:05] Duuude-Ron :

Gotta love freaking out of the freaking environmentalism.   Just What's that, dude? On the fucking.   Just freak out.   I I'm I probably will have to. I'm just afraid that I'll get hit with,   distracted driving or something like that from my damn camera.   I'm sure the folks there have gotten several shots of me giving it a damn finger because it's like distracted driving. I was growing up in Orange.   I looked down for a moment just even a hair moment. I'm still I'm still in between the lines,   but I'm reached down and I grab and then   distract the driving. It's like, fuck the fucking shit.  



[01:06:48] Unknown:

Oh, damn.   See? No.   I don't. No. I'm glad I'm not driving.  

[01:06:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So is yours,   on a point system as well?  

[01:07:01] Duuude-Ron :

It is, but it's not it's not a horrendous point system. Let's see here.   Let's see.   It is   where is it? Where'd it go? You   yeah. There's my scores.   I'm a 97   right now, and so   It's not bad. No.   Closest thing I had was, I had two instances of where I took off with no seat belt.   So   and it tells you. So at safe time, it's like, boop boop. No seat belt. I'm like, oh, shit. Thanks.  

[01:07:42] Rich Chelson:

So yeah. I yeah. I think that We had one we had one of our drivers get fired for that.  

[01:07:50] Duuude-Ron :

I can understand why because, I mean, that's a fucking hefty fine.  

[01:07:55] Rich Chelson:

No. He was still on the fucking property.  

[01:07:59] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   shit.  

[01:08:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That vehicle moves.   Oh, yeah. It's   a for air for my company?   Oh, yeah.   He did it three times   on the third time for when he had his review phone call,   they let him go.  

[01:08:20] Unknown:

Damn.  

[01:08:21] Rich Chelson:

And the the third time, he travels   a mere   thirty, forty feet,   but he traveled without a seat belt on. Yep.   Yeah. They're they're kinda anal, but,   you know, it is what it is. Yeah. Well and, so  

[01:08:44] Duuude-Ron :

that,   that 97 is the last thirty days. For the last seven days, I've had too little,   I've had   point six points to, taken off. So it takes a while. They you they've said, do not get below 90. Get below 90, you get, you get in the you get ride ups and bad things start happening.   So but, so I had a a deal an episode of moderate speeding, which is, you know, between   between,   about five miles over the speed limit.   And   then I I have heavy Does it speeding. And that was   Say again?  

[01:09:24] Rich Chelson:

So does the camera detect the speed limit sign   in conjunction with your speed?  

[01:09:31] Duuude-Ron :

No. I think it goes off of the,   the   what's what the, what the speed   is supposed to be for the,   for the,  

[01:09:44] Rich Chelson:

for that road. Route that you're on. Yeah.  

[01:09:49] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Gotcha. But the heavy speeding is because I have fun. I like to drop it in the Mexican overdrive. There's a there's a good size hill,   and so I'll just throw it in the in the neutral and roll it on the hill. And I'd   just You call it the what? It's called Mexican overdrive.   Mexican overdrive.  

[01:10:07] Unknown:

Well, that or or the old term is Georgia overdrive.  

[01:10:11] Duuude-Ron :

Georgia.  

[01:10:12] Unknown:

Okay. Either one. I mean Yeah. I mean, either one. But yeah. Yeah. Back in the old days, like, in the '8 seventies, eighties, and early nineties, it was called Georgia Overdrive.   Yeah.  

[01:10:25] Duuude-Ron :

Well, a lot of that place I heard it was, everybody was throwing it into,   they would say, yeah. Just drop it in to make it an overdrive, man. It's coming off coming off that hill going down into Alamogordo.   Right. You know, like, great big hill. It was about seven miles long.   It drops at about a about a four or 5% in gray, grade.   Yeah. No. That's no. That's not fun. Did the straight line? Did that hurt anything? Yeah. About a hundred   one of  

[01:10:54] Unknown:

these one. Yeah. Trucks   trucks tend to bounce a little more at that speed.  

[01:11:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Especially on New Mexico roads. This is a good point. So Right.   But now that the hill there, it's a 6% grade, and so I'll just I'll I'll just throw it into into neutral and just let it roll, and it gets up to about eighty, eighty five. And so I've it's got a it's got a point   minus   for 11 I've done eleven seconds of of, of heavy speeding. So   Right. Because the   moment you hit, moment you hit the bottom, you're going back up. So it's just it's a means of me getting enough speed to make sure I get up to the top and still   maintain an assemblance of, of speed.  



[01:11:40] Unknown:

Right. Right. You're you're in fifth gear instead of second.  

[01:11:44] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly. Yeah.  

[01:11:46] Unknown:

And believe me, that's   that's a big change.  

[01:11:52] Duuude-Ron :

Very big change. That's different point double   two,   double digit and and single digits. So  

[01:12:00] Unknown:

Yeah. No. Exactly. Because,   I've I had a couple trucks that,   no matter what I did,   if I didn't time that hill going back up just right, I was down to 10 mile an hour and sometimes eight   in second gear.   Yeah.   And, oh my god, that that makes for a long ass day.   Yeah. That makes for a long crawl up the rest of that hill for sure. Yeah. It does. And and, you know, when you're running out west and up and down them hills, yeah, I didn't know.   That was   bad.   That was real bad.   But  

[01:12:40] Rich Chelson:

Oop. Yeah. I'm not We're still gonna be down there. Another bolt was  

[01:12:45] Duuude-Ron :

they're lightning.  

[01:12:47] Unknown:

What was that dude? I didn't I didn't hear. I didn't hear what Yeah. Hear what you said.  

[01:12:52] Rich Chelson:

I'm not doing any hills. I got lights. Most of mine is nice and flat.  

[01:13:00] Duuude-Ron :

Well, there's a few days in the hills out there between, Comanche and or, yeah, Comanche and and and   and Pottsville.  

[01:13:10] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah, where the construction is at, yeah, there's a few hills. Yeah. Yeah. There's a few hills right right right right there straight. Few. It's not   anything to write home about. But it's not like you're going through the fucking,   Rocky Mountains or the,   Appalachian.   Fuck   that.  

[01:13:30] Unknown:

Oh.   Oh, dude. It's fun in a big truck.  

[01:13:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Fully loaded. Maybe even a little overloaded. You know? Fuck yeah. Oh, yeah. That's game on, man. How slow can you go   downhill   and not touch your brakes?   That's the name of the game.  

[01:13:48] Unknown:

What gear do you need to be in?   That's the other game. That's the other game. Dude.  

[01:13:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Screaming at you, you got your  

[01:14:01] Rich Chelson:

And then carrying about,   oh, 300   cylinders   of hydrogen, compressed hydrogen   at 300   or 3,000 psi.  

[01:14:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, now if you had a bump, you'll float. You're okay.   That's what the end of the boat was made of. It'll float you. No, dude. I would I would haul that trailer  

[01:14:23] Unknown:

if the tractor had a manual in it, but with an automatic because well, no. I would Yeah. Yeah. Not a not not an automatic. No. No. I would I would need a manual so   so so I could slow the truck down, not not let a computer slow it down for me.  

[01:14:40] Duuude-Ron :

Well, actually,   the Freightliner's   the Freightliner's   interesting thing about those,   those,   transmissions is in all reality, those are still manual transmissions.   Yeah. You, yeah, you can flip them like like it No. No. I mean I mean, they're they're they're manual transmissions,   but   they're not they're not automatic transmissions like what a car is. And I'm trying to remember I think it's   Volvo   transmissions   are actually   real automatic transmissions   as opposed to   just   air driven, computer   driven  

[01:15:28] Rich Chelson:

standards. Yeah. And I can yeah. And I can go on with my automatic if I want to, but, you know, I will agree with Rich. You know, if I am in a fucking   sixth gear,   it's gonna be in fucking sixth gear.  

[01:15:47] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:15:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And that's you see no fucking computer, Fallon.  

[01:15:54] Duuude-Ron :

Trying to guess. Yeah.  

[01:15:57] Unknown:

Because because you see, that's like going down Cabbage Hill,   up in Oregon   or up in yeah. Oregon,   or coming into Oregon.   I don't know how these freaking automatics do it because at the top, if you're weighing 80,000 pounds, your max speed down that hill is 18 miles an hour. And if you do 20,   they're right in your ass a ticket.   You know?   Shit.   Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. You've got signs all all the way going up   that   that that has you know? And I think it starts out at, like, 50,000   45 or 50,000   pounds. You can do, like, 40 miles an hour down that hill.   Okay? And then the higher you go up in poundage,   and that's total vehicle weight.  

At at 80,000,   you can only do 18 miles an hour going down that hill, and it's a 10 mile down.   You're going down for 10 miles, and it's not straight.   By no means.   It's not a fucking it's got three it's got three runaway truck ramps.   Three or four.   Wow.   Yeah. And and, I mean, you know, I mean, the first time I freaking went over that hill, oh my god. I man, my   my butt pocketed. I I squeezed that seat and put a permanent indenture in that seat.   After that, you know, I put a  

[01:17:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. It had a it had a groove in it. Permanent mohawk?  

[01:17:32] Unknown:

Yes. It did. Mohawk.   Yes. It did.   The first time, you're damn right it did.   But but after that, I mean, you know, once I got used to the hill,   fuck.   I could eat a sandwich, go to sleep, take a nap. I was good, man.   But, yeah, the the first couple times real and that hill that hill there, you never oh god. You never took that hill for granted because it changed all the time.   I mean, the road stayed the same, but the weather conditions   just you had to work going down that hill. Once you got down the   hill, get a straight   straight road,   straight pavement for another   I think it was ten, fifteen miles after that.  

No cars, no turns, no nothing.   So but yeah. Oh, no. Cops would   cops would really write your ass a ticket, especially if you sped down that hill.   You did not wanna get caught.  

[01:18:33] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[01:18:34] Unknown:

Yeah.   And there's and and   these people driving automatics,   well,   I I mean, I've got no experience with automatic, so I don't know how they do it, but they do it.  

[01:18:48] Duuude-Ron :

You put you you go off you got the first three weeks, you're you're accidentally putting a hole in the floorboard.   Sound right?   Drive along and   anyway.  

[01:19:02] Unknown:

Right? Oh, yeah, Matt. Yeah. I would be I would be I I would be stomping a hole in that floorboard.   Because, yeah, see, 18 miles an hour in most of the trucks I drove over that hill, and that was normally at 80,000.   I think there was only one time I could go down at, like, 35,   and I,   man, I felt I was flying down the hill.  

[01:19:27] Duuude-Ron :

But I I White duck on it again.  

[01:19:30] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. I was having fun. But I think,   most of the trucks I was running probably   fourth, maybe fifth gear,   and that was that was with the Jake on the whole way.   So   and I would rarely  

[01:19:47] Rich Chelson:

Jake Jake at level three?  

[01:19:50] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Maxed out, dude. Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah.   Just pop pop pop pop pop. Just fucking going down a hill for 10 miles.   Mhmm.   I remember that hill. Never forget that, bitch.   Never.  

[01:20:08] Rich Chelson:

That or four And running fourth   Fifth gear   fifth gear and level three on the Jake brake. Mhmm.   Wow.  

[01:20:18] Unknown:

Yep.   And and I can only ride ride down the hill   right at about 18 mile an hour, 15 to 18 mile an hour.  

[01:20:28] Duuude-Ron :

So we now know that we need to go on ahead and just flatbed you for your funeral, we need to flatbed you down Cabbage Hill just one last time.  

[01:20:36] Unknown:

There you go.   There you go.  

[01:20:41] Duuude-Ron :

Strap the strap   the gasket down,   and then  

[01:20:47] Unknown:

Yo. Exactly.   Yeah.   Yeah. Cabbage was I I mean   yeah. There's   there's stories about that,   especially from the older drivers   from back in the day.   I heard many a story about about Cabbage.  

[01:21:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:21:09] Unknown:

I have a And then and then Black Mountain  

[01:21:12] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. I've heard of that one. Oh, I was gonna say I was gonna say I   only only one that   was   that I that I went down that really gave me a really good pucker was was Wolf Creek Pass.  

[01:21:27] Unknown:

So  

[01:21:28] Duuude-Ron :

I I never did make it down there, but I heard stories about Wolf Creek Pass. It's pretty. I'll give you that. And I I mean, I've gone through it in a car several times because we used to go to Wolf Creek for a ski ski trip.   Mhmm.   But, yeah, there's two times that I went, went from,   Pagosa Springs   into,   on into   to,   oh, crap. I can't think of the name of the next town that you go to. Bam.   And to get to there, you had to go through,   Wolf Creek Pass. And, yeah, that was while still still having some groceries, I was usually about halfway empty, but still,   the whole time just kinda, like, going, because there was highway patrol all over the place, and they were pulling trucks over to check their brakes.  

It's like   and I got it. And I understand why because damn that thing's damn near vertical, it feels like.   At least the first time I went down, I was like, goddamn. How are you supposed to slow down on this? Like  

[01:22:32] Unknown:

Well, that's like that's like a lot of the big hills that I went down. At the very top, you had to stop.   And,   there's   at the very top, there there's a big wide spot,   and,   you would, have to   stop and   check your brakes, adjust your brakes. Suggest your brakes and all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you didn't and you went down that hill and smoked your brakes,   yeah, fucking cops rate you a ticket, man.   You you didn't stop and check your brakes.  

[01:23:10] Duuude-Ron :

I didn't stop and check your brakes. Automatic slack adjust  

[01:23:13] Rich Chelson:

I'm glad I got automatic slack adjusters.  

[01:23:17] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, there's no I know it's guarantees.  

[01:23:21] Unknown:

Yeah.   You   you'd still you'd still have to crawl up under there and look at the spacing.   Quarter inch from the drum.   If you were farther than that, you you better adjust them automatic slack adjusters   because you won't stop.  

[01:23:40] Duuude-Ron :

Oh.  

[01:23:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, then I'm a class from our maintenance guy.  

[01:23:46] Unknown:

Do what?  

[01:23:48] Rich Chelson:

Get a class from our maintenance guy.  

[01:23:52] Unknown:

Oh, it's easy. Get a 10 millimeter wrench   or ratchet   and   turn it to the left and tighten them up, and then   one quarter turn to the right. That'll set your automatic slack adjusters.  

[01:24:08] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:24:10] Unknown:

I mean, ask your guy, you know, but that's that's the way I was taught   to do automatic slack adjusters because, you know, we had manuals for years.   And then,   and then, we had,   and we started getting automatics, and I thought, well, fuck. I ain't I ain't gotta mess with them. Uh-huh.   DOT pulled me in.   Couple of my brakes were out of adjustment, and I said I got automatic. He says,   sorry, dude.   They ain't all that's cracked up to be.  

[01:24:44] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. They're   they can be, they can be all they can be be off   I mean, granted and automatic slack adjusters, a lot of times, they're really easy to to adjust.   I mean, if you notice that there are some ones off, all you have to do is is roll backwards   a little bit and then slam on your brakes.   Yeah. Or And that's supposed to adjust them.  

[01:25:07] Unknown:

Supposed to. Yeah. Or   or roll backwards and pump your brakes. That's supposed to adjust them. But sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. That yeah.   So, yeah, I would just get out I would just get out and   use a ratchet with the two millimeter socket and,   you know, tighten them up against the drum and then back them off quarter turn.   And then away I went.  

[01:25:34] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:25:37] Unknown:

Yep.   Just just stuff I've learned about,   you know, and Brian's learned about this shit.  

[01:25:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And that's and I'm not still not ever actually adjust my own own brakes before, but I've I've always   there was one time where they   well, I was having problems with my with my brakes, and that's the   the mechanic who, who didn't wanna come out.   He was like he was like, oh, man, no. I'm not I don't I don't need to go out. Just go out. Grab it. Grab, like I said, 10 millimeter   socket, deep socket, and   and,   and adjust them. I was like, you know,   you go until they're tight, then you turn it off just just quarter turn.   And, I was like and so   but I was like but it's it was, the opposite. They were it was almost as if they were too tight. So and every time I tried to I would loosen them up, as they it was described to loosen them up, they would tighten up some more. Come to find out, I had a bunch of   had some,   had some water in the, in the trailer,   tank air tank.  

Oh, okay. Okay. And so it was it was icing over on that, and that's what was Oh. Caused my whole problem.   So whenever I got back and it was time to actually get them adjusted, I was like going, you get to fucking do it, dude. You're the one that's supposed to be out there anyhow.   Right. They pay you pay you to do this shit.   You get yourself out in the out in the cold, and you guys do it right next time.  

[01:27:16] Unknown:

Yeah. See, I never got that lucky. The trucks I drove   if something if something broke,   I had to try and fix it.   And if I couldn't, then   maybe I could take it to a shop. Otherwise, I would have to   wait until I got back to the yard and have it Right. There.   So  

[01:27:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I   my   my,   my line is that I am mechanically   declined.   So I can do it. I can do it. I and I've Yeah. It it I it's just it'll take me a lot longer than I want it, but I can I know I can do it? I've I mean, I've I've changed out,   whole pack, everything on, on the old,   Grand Cherokee that we had. So   yeah.   It's just it it it's just it it's a little overwhelming when you first look at it. You're like, oh, well, how do you tell? It the the car won't start.   Well, unplugged one of the, you know,   the spark plugs or the, you know,   I bought I actually found out,   one of the, oh, what is it? There was a guy who used what was he? He used something, and he would actually hold up neck hold it next to it.  

And,   all the voltage,   tester, you know, test to see if you got current actually running through a line.   Uh-huh. He would take one of those and and would hold it next to the next to this the bills to, the   the wires to see if they were firing off like they're supposed to.   And, I don't know how that how that always worked, but, but at the same time, it was   he would   then he would go off and say,   pull the same tray truck that, you know, grandpa would always pull on their,   on their kids by taking the,   tugging the the   the spark plug,   wire off and then have, have the kids start the lawnmower.  



[01:29:22] Unknown:

Uh-huh. Yep.  

[01:29:24] Duuude-Ron :

But the dynamo will let it light you up once.  

[01:29:29] Unknown:

I've done that once or twice. I've I've   I've fallen for that.   Yeah. Yeah. Hold that wire right right against there.  

[01:29:37] Duuude-Ron :

I'm gonna be able to hold the wire. Just make sure it's off. Yeah. It's a poor   goddamn service.  

[01:29:46] Unknown:

You got it. Got it good. And then they pull. Oh, yeah.  

[01:29:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I got it lit up.  

[01:29:52] Unknown:

I got lit up with 20,000 volts. I was I was checking a   a fuel injection system on a,   say, I think it was an '80 models   Chevy pickup.   It was it was when they had the TBI, the throttle body, the new throttle body with fuel injection.   It it looked like it had a carburetor, but the fuel injection   nozzles   were in the top of the carburetor.  

[01:30:17] Duuude-Ron :

And you had  

[01:30:18] Unknown:

this you had this noise light   that that if you set it on there   when   when it would shoot I think we just lost dude. Yeah. Dude left. Dude left.   But,   when   when you put it on there and crank it, you know, you'd pull the coal wire, but crank it, and it it was sending,   fuel and   electrical current to tell the   inject the, fuel injectors to fire.   Right. Or send fuel, it would it would light this light. And,   I was I was I was sitting up in this in this engine bay, had a three fifty in it,   and   put that annoyed light. And and I was trying to hold it on, and my boss,   he was funnier than shit. Little little short fat fucker. He was cool. I loved him.  

He he cranked it over, and he knew what was gonna happen. You know? I was just   and he cranked it over, and I felt all those volts go up my right leg through my right butt cheek, through my left butt cheek. Now my left   oh my god. I jumped out. He comes out the truck just rolling.   I'm like, Sarge, damn you.   Oh my god. He was I mean, he he was just laughing like crazy.   Yeah. I mean, he knew he knew what was going on.   He's like he's like, get it there again. No. Uh-oh. No. Yeah. Nope. Nope. Don't play in that game no more.   No. I'm   no. I I was just   I just I just had my hand on it is what it was, and I grounded myself to everything.  

Yeah.   You know?   But,   yeah, it was, oh, dude's back. Dude, you're back.  

[01:32:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yay.  

[01:32:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I drop I drop signal like a hot rock.  

[01:32:13] Unknown:

Yeah. You did.  

[01:32:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. All of a sudden, we're talking all of a it was like, oh, man. That dude left up. Sure enough. Dude's gone.  

[01:32:23] Unknown:

Dude's gone.   I didn't even hear you come back, though, dude. You you were sneaky.  

[01:32:31] Rich Chelson:

You know what? Drop like a hot rock. Come back like a hot rock.  

[01:32:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. So hey. I'm gonna put you on mute for a moment. I've got a guy who's wanting to talk to me real quick.  

[01:32:40] Unknown:

I'll be right  

[01:32:41] Duuude-Ron :

back. Tell him no. Tell him no. Tell him no. Well, he he's he's kinda my my supervisor, so I I better see what he needs. Okay. Alrighty. I mean  

[01:32:53] Unknown:

oh, shit.   So, dude, other than work, what have you done when since you've been home?  

[01:33:00] Rich Chelson:

Nothing.   Work.  

[01:33:02] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I mean  

[01:33:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Work, come home.   You know,   wind down so I can   wind back up the next morning and, you know, do it all over again.  

[01:33:16] Unknown:

Right. Right. What time do you get home on oh, yeah. That's right. You you mentioned, man. It was about 07:30.   Yeah. Okay.  

[01:33:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Right at seven right at 07:30 is when I got home. Okay. Yeah.  

[01:33:28] Unknown:

I I mean, I know I know I looked at the time well, I had looked at the time when it was about seven,   and I was like, yeah, dude. Probably ought to be getting home here shortly.   You know? Because I knew I knew I knew, what time he left.  

[01:33:43] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   And then now and now I'll be waiting for that,   invoice in the mail because a damn fucking   Google put me on a toll road.  

[01:33:58] Unknown:

Which toll road?  

[01:33:59] Rich Chelson:

9 it's in Texas,   Toll 19.   It's right around on the outskirts of Houston.  

[01:34:09] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.   Okay. Yeah. That's like that's like you know, if I go to Pensacola,   if I go across the bridge, yeah, they'll,   they'll send me a   a tow bill   tow bill.   It's cheap. It's like a couple bucks. It's it's not expensive.   Expensive one is,   going up to see the kids,   you know, up in Indiana.   When you cross over from Kentucky into Ohio,   that bridge there, they fucking nail you for, like, $5.40   each way.  

[01:34:44] Rich Chelson:

No shit. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:34:48] Unknown:

It's like it's it yeah.   Yeah. Last year when I went up and saw the kids and everything,   came back home,   I don't know. It was about two weeks later. I get a bill, and I'm like, what the hell is this for? And I looked at him like, oh, shit. And I got nailed both ways.   I'm like, you y'all are rude.   Bridge   has been there,   you know, longer than we have.  

[01:35:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Exactly. And now they wanna charge you to go over the fucking bridge.  

[01:35:17] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[01:35:18] Rich Chelson:

That's   bullshit.  

[01:35:20] Unknown:

Oh, no. It is. Because you see you see back in the early days,   going across that bridge, they didn't charge,   you know, because we didn't have E ZPass or nothing.   And then,   I guess I guess once, everybody got E ZPass,   which is a toll thing that you stick in your window and it pays the toll automatically.  

[01:35:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Darn trucks have them.  

[01:35:44] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah. But   when,   everybody got E ZPass, they're like, shit. We're just gonna charge everybody.   And that's just rude. And, I mean, they say it's for maintenance on a bridge, but you know what?   Cincinnati?   Is it Cincinnati? Yeah. Yeah. It's Cincinnati because   because that tunnel off off to the right.   But Lexington   has enough money to maintain that bridge in Cincinnati   because they both share the bridge.   The the state line is, like, almost halfway across the bridge.   So each state has has their own half to take care of. It's like, you ain't gonna charge no tow.   You know, if it's $5 for a car   or a Jeep in our case, but a car   for,   you know, two axles,   five axles is probably 25, almost $30   1 way.  



[01:36:46] Rich Chelson:

Yes.  

[01:36:47] Unknown:

That's just rude. In fact, actually,   I can look it up.  

[01:36:52] Rich Chelson:

I think   when I get that toll bill, it'll be somewhere right around   $12.15   dollars.  

[01:37:00] Unknown:

What?   Will it be that expensive?  

[01:37:03] Rich Chelson:

Yes. It will be.   Because I rode that whole   toll 19.   So, yeah, the every time I went past an exit,   it said what you know, it started out at a dollar 19,   then Uh-huh.   $2.32   and then $3.60   something,   and it just kept going up from there.  

[01:37:29] Unknown:

That is crazy. And see and see that's,   that's the thing, though.   See, you was in Harris County here. I'm I'm gonna look.  

[01:37:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So it just kinda agitated me that fucking   Google put me on a fucking toll route   Well versus the route that I came down on, which didn't have any tolls.  

[01:37:53] Unknown:

Right.   Well, you can,   tell Google not to run you on a toll road.  

[01:37:58] Rich Chelson:

You know, and I probably should've   opened it up or   zoomed out a little bit to you know, before I got into the Houston area   Right. To select   a non toll path, but I didn't.  

[01:38:15] Unknown:

Did you take that road to,   610 to Loop 610?  

[01:38:21] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   I believe so.  

[01:38:24] Unknown:

Alright. That's the Westpark Tollway,   and that that takes State Highway 99 to Loop 610.   Let me   see.   Let's see if see if I can   see see how much it would cost.   Because you see, that's like Texas and and a lot of other states. They've stopped taking cash, and it's all done   off a license plate anymore if you don't have an E ZPass.  

[01:38:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It is.   And because I don't do a lot of traveling,   and there are so many fucking different   companies   that do the tolls for Texas.   It ain't just one company. It's like eight different companies   run certain certain   toll sections.   And   but   and because I don't travel a lot, I have never done this.   But I can go on to   the Texas   toll site   and put in my information in for,   DV plate.   And I'd say probably about   70%   of the toll roads.   If you have your DV plate registered with them,   they don't charge you. They don't charge you on the toll road   Okay. On about on about 70%.  

Now there are some   it doesn't matter   if you're disabled bed or not. They'll still charge you.  

[01:39:58] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, and see this,   I mean, I I honestly, the honestly, the best way to do it is to get an E ZPass because that's good for the whole country. Anywhere you go in the country, if there's a toll, you know, you just have to load some money onto it   and,   everything like that. And,   it yeah. Yeah. Just about any toll road   will take E ZPass now.   Because I remember when E ZPass came out, there's a lot of places that didn't   take,   you know, E ZPass, and you still had to pay cash. I had to pay cash for years.  

[01:40:44] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I'm sure.   So Yeah. There's no yeah. There's   now they have buildings   that used to be   you had to stop and pay. Yeah. But now it's know. Yeah. It is. It's all camera generated on the license plate.  

[01:41:00] Unknown:

Yeah. Yep.   Yeah. They've   they've gone away from that. Well, that's like the George Washington Bridge going into New York City from New Jersey.   I don't know. There's still people   that'll pay cash and, collect tolls, but they would rather   you use E ZPass.   And and for big trucks, it's now a hundred dollars,   last I saw.   It's it's a hundred or a hundred and 20. And when I first started crossing,   it was,   a wage man jigger, $20.   That was a lot of money back in the nineties.  

[01:41:39] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[01:41:40] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. It was, yeah, it was expensive back then, and it still is now.  

[01:41:46] Rich Chelson:

And see that that that's just fucking ridiculous.   Yeah. So I understand,   Okay. The privilege to be able to   go on a toll section.   Okay. I got that. You know? When I go down to   where the fuck was it?   Oh, up to, Fort Worth.   And going from, going from   Dallas to Fort Worth,   there's a   a toll section.   I can't remember   which one it is.   But, yeah, it's and my truck has a has a toll tag on it.   Right. So but then   the speed limit   is,   what, 75 miles an hour in some places,   and it's one lane   for a majority of it.   And I'm governed at 65.   So I had a truck another truck that was behind me   riding my ass.  

I'm doing 65 miles an hour. I can't go   any faster.   And   he got off on one of the off ramps,   got past me,   told me that I was number one,   that I was the best driver out there   Mhmm. And then got back on   to where he was in front of me.   I'm like   and when he gave me told me that I was number one, you know what I did? I just gave him a thumbs   up. Thank you, dude.   You know what? That probably pissed him off more.  

[01:43:31] Unknown:

It probably did.  

[01:43:33] Rich Chelson:

You know, instead of getting a, you know, a snide remark when he,   flew me the bird.  

[01:43:40] Unknown:

That's funny.  

[01:43:41] Rich Chelson:

I just   gave him a thumbs up.   And he was you know, the the and the funny thing about it, he was yelling at his window.   Like,   I can fucking even hear him.   I'm like, I had my windows up, had the air conditioner on. It's like his mouth was just   rambling, and I'm like,   you know what? Nobody can fucking hear you, dude.   That was kind of fucking   a waste of air. But, yeah, he did that, and then flipped me to bird. It's like and I gave him the thumbs up.  

[01:44:15] Unknown:

Yeah. That's funny.  

[01:44:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I've had guys do that too. I mean and that's that's   they the guys that go off and get a worked up like that are just the most amazing guys to, to experience because they are just wrapped up in their own   set of thoughts.   And the fact that they   pass all of their   autonomous power   to some stranger like you   is just phenomenal.   Right. And I've had I've had issues, like, where, you know, I'd be coming up to a to an intersection,   and,   the light changes a lot faster than I thought, which I actually, I learned something interesting about, about the yellow light. And I'll talk about that here in a sec.   But,   and so, instead of, you know, give letting trucks that need to make a right hand turn,   giving them plenty of room, I would be, like, right there on the line because there'd be you know, the four wheelers right just was was getting pulled all along on my bumper. And so whenever I stopped, they were right freaking there, and I couldn't back up. And there'd be plenty times where some guy was wanting to make a right hand turn. And so   the whole time he's making a turn, just see him. His arms are just all animated. He is just talking up a hundred miles an hour, and he, you know, telling you number one, he's flipping the the hundred different ways that he can. The whole time, he's turning it. I don't know. You know? And it's just like,   I find that just so humorous now and so I find it so so,   entertaining that I'm sure I pissed him off even more because while he's doing it, I was just sitting there laughing the whole time.  

Because thank you, dude, for giving me   all of your power.   Yeah. Allowing me to have control of your emotional well-being.   And I could push all the buttons I want, and I have no control over what you're doing. You gave me your power, and you handed your control box to a total stranger.   That's amazing.   Thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you because you gave me entertainment.  

[01:46:22] Rich Chelson:

And, you know, here's here's another good one. Coming out of Austin,   down by   what the hell is basically, one eighty three and thirty five  

[01:46:36] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:46:38] Rich Chelson:

On the Northern part of Austin.   So as soon as I get   from the Austin store   and I start going it doesn't matter. If I'm going southbound or northbound from from to   my exit,   I am in the same lane.  

[01:46:56] Unknown:

Uh-oh.  

[01:46:57] Duuude-Ron :

Did we lose dude again? I think we're losing dude. He was going cellular Chinese on us.  

[01:47:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Okay.   Now come on, people. Gee. Is it better now?  

[01:47:10] Duuude-Ron :

Little bit. Is it better now? Yeah. Yeah. You're you're you're you're you're coming in. Turn your head a little more to the left.   Tilt tilt 45 degrees.  

[01:47:18] Rich Chelson:

Now. Okay. Yeah. There you go. Oh, not solid. Yeah.  

[01:47:22] Duuude-Ron :

Oh. Absolute.  

[01:47:24] Rich Chelson:

So it doesn't matter if I'm   going northbound or southbound on 35.   So if I'm going southbound at   Georgetown,   I get in the middle lane. It's still seventy,   seventy five miles an hour. If you wanna pass me,   you got a lane on the left, you got a lane on the right.   Same way with the trucks. You wanna pass me, you got a lane on the left, you got a lane on the right.   I'm staying in the middle   because I'm not dealing with,   you know, the oncoming ramp traffic   because you people just don't know how to they've yet to figure out anybody   that ramp is used to fucking accelerate on. Not once you get on the highway, accelerate.  



[01:48:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And there's enough room there for you to get, get your speed built up.  

[01:48:15] Rich Chelson:

Exactly. That's the whole freaking purpose.   So I'm in the center lane, and I just yeah. And because we're governed at 65 miles an hour, which is fine. You know?   I don't like it.   You know? I would much rather be at 67   miles an hour so I can get past the 65 mile an hour trucks.   Right.   You know, that would be absolutely great,   but we're not. So   and what's really entertaining is you you single out a car   that is just going in and out and in and out, left, right, left, right, right, left.   All through the different lanes.   Right?  

And I'm,   you know, just going down the center lane,   And then   couple miles down the road,   they're in the left hand lane in the fast lane, and I go right past them.   I'm like,   you spent all that time  

[01:49:16] Duuude-Ron :

in   Yeah.  

[01:49:18] Rich Chelson:

Doing all the shit you just did, and I passed you. So what did you just fucking prove other than you are a fucking idiot? Yeah. Yeah. And that's Good. You know, that's  

[01:49:35] Duuude-Ron :

look at average, average,   speed of trucks.   Average speed of most vehicles.   From the time they stop   start to the time they stop   And then my son has a hard time really fully buying the buying it,   and he's the only one that really likes to push back. But your average speed is always gonna be anywhere from 45 to 55 miles an hour   every single   time. No matter how fast you think you're gonna go, you can if you do 75 miles an hour, you may squeak that up to about 58   miles an hour.   But   you're   going   going from   home   to, you know, even going to to, like,   Orlando, Florida. You know? You know, putting a thousand miles on your car.  

From the time you   start up,   go get everything that you need. You start. You stop. You go through all the stoplights and all that and the speed limits of the towns and and everything else. By the time you get to your destination,   a thousand miles away, you're still going to average 45 to 55 miles an hour.   That's right. So it does not matter.   Go on as fast as you can.   The only thing that's gonna do is it's gonna get you a ticket and possibly get you killed.   Yeah. So you know? And that's just something that us old folks   figure out. The young bucks have gotta go through the, you know, the   the $2,000   worth of tickets   to to to oh, wait a minute. You know? I, I can't say that.  

Folks  

[01:51:21] Rich Chelson:

that those old folks that wanna do,   you know, little below the speed limit,  

[01:51:27] Unknown:

get the fuck in the far right hand lane and get No. I'm in the middle of the way, dude.  

[01:51:33] Rich Chelson:

I know.   Which they are,   you know, perfectly allowed to do,   but you're just gonna agitate the hell out of everybody.  

[01:51:45] Duuude-Ron :

And they do.   Well, you know Well, I said at least the ones that,   most of the time, you know which ones are actually   going to not,   that are going out there just to agitate you because they also have their left blinker on.  

[01:52:03] Unknown:

I look at it like this. I spent twenty five years getting held up by four wheelers   and shit and and other big trucks. Fuck them. I'm gonna piss as many people off as I can. And I ride in the middle lane, and I always ride,   you know, three to five miles an hour under the speed limit just to piss them off.   Because by god, I pay my well, I I used to pay my tax. I've paid enough taxes,   enough highway taxes   between cars and big trucks.   Yeah. I've done my time. Yep.  

[01:52:40] Duuude-Ron :

It is So speaking of cars and all that, what's, you got an update on your on the Jeep,   Jeep dilemma?  

[01:52:49] Unknown:

Well   well, I sent that form   for,   to Missouri.  

[01:52:56] Duuude-Ron :

Right?  

[01:52:57] Unknown:

And,   it's now been   a month. And so I so I emailed   Missouri   and,   everything, and they sent me an email and asked   where I sent the form to. So I told them that, and   so I'm waiting to hear,   hopefully, hear soon.   Because   on this phone, I had to get it notarized and then mail it. So I had to notarize it, sign it, and then mail it.  

[01:53:26] Duuude-Ron :

And, Well, you may just end up having to just hop in the Jeep, go to Missouri, go, hey.  

[01:53:33] Unknown:

You know you know, that thought has crossed my mind, but I really don't wanna drive Oh, I don't blame you. I don't I don't blame you at all. I mean, well, it wouldn't be a thousand because I, you know, I could go to the nearest   driver's license office in Missouri.  

[01:53:48] Duuude-Ron :

You know? But still, it's not Just right there on the on the just crossing the state line in Missouri. Okay. There's one.  

[01:53:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Exactly. But   but yeah. No. I I'm just I don't know.   That   was,   say, Monday and Tuesday   when I got those emails   in   or Tuesday and Wednesday, something like that. But so, hopefully, someone's on it and getting it done, and, hopefully, I hear something   here shortly.  

[01:54:19] Duuude-Ron :

Because,  

[01:54:20] Unknown:

yeah, this is still man, this is a pain in my ass.  

[01:54:24] Duuude-Ron :

I believe it.  

[01:54:26] Unknown:

You know, I mean, yeah, I do drive the Jeep, but only when absolutely necessary.  

[01:54:31] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Now that's one reason why I have yet because Janice made comments about, well, you know, we could look around on my Carvana and stuff, and I'm like going, no. We're not doing the Carvana.   Nope. Nope. Nope.  

[01:54:42] Unknown:

You know, I wouldn't   I mean I mean, yes.   You   you could get approved for a car and get it. I mean,   the process would take   maybe two days. Yeah. You just have to wait for the car. You could get it. Now   now you plan to stay living in Oklahoma. So No. No. About five years,  

[01:55:03] Duuude-Ron :

my is   five more years about my my mountain. I'm gonna start   very actively   and vocally   trying to get my happy butt down   to down to, to to Texas.   Okay. And that's that's my plan. Now   if it hits the with with mom and all of a sudden I have to be down there sooner,   then, yeah, well, just I'll push comes to shove. I may just, you know, I may just   leave the house clean the house out, leave it behind, and just let the bank decide what it wants to do.  

[01:55:38] Unknown:

So   Well, you you ain't got much left to pay on it, do you?  

[01:55:44] Duuude-Ron :

I've got ten years.  

[01:55:46] Unknown:

Oh, ten years? Yeah.   Shit. Rent it out, dude.   You know, if you had to go to Texas, rent the house out in Oklahoma.  

[01:55:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I've thought that I've thought of, of renting it. Just I don't know of anybody,   anybody do my,   any property managers.  

[01:56:09] Unknown:

So   Oh, that's I mean, dude, that's easy to find.   I'm sure it is. Ask a realtor because down here, a lot of the realtors   are also property managers.   I don't know if they are up there, but they are down here.   So,   I mean, it's it's a thought. You know?   It's a thought because if you let the house go with ten years on it,   that is gonna fuck your credit for a long time.  

[01:56:37] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[01:56:39] Unknown:

You know? Which, I mean, you know, either way, I mean because that's like that's like on my Jeep. If something doesn't happen soon because, like like, dude, it said to call Capital One and and see if they could   refi you know, I could refinance my Jeep and get the title   so I can get it licensed.   Yeah.   I looked, and,   they don't do anything older than ten years,   and mine's thirteen.   Uh-huh.  

[01:57:07] Rich Chelson:

So yeah. That's So Apple one won't refinance anything over ten? Right.  

[01:57:13] Unknown:

Well, okay. Yeah. I found that out last night. I was like, damn it.  

[01:57:18] Duuude-Ron :

Son of a bitch.  

[01:57:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   What what about   somebody else?  

[01:57:26] Unknown:

Yeah. I can do it because I've because, I've got   Credit Karma.   And, yeah, I I can find companies and my interest rate would drop big time,   but,   and so would my payment.   But right now, I'm trying to   get this title shit taken care of.   And then   once I get the Jeep licensed in Mississippi   because I've only   got four four more years to pay on  

[01:57:59] Duuude-Ron :

it. Yeah.  

[01:58:01] Unknown:

I'm not I'm   I'm not leaving here for four years minimum. You know?   The Jeep is gonna stay licensed   in Mississippi until it's paid off.   So and probably after I you know, once I get the title and   and get that straight,   I might look a little harder into   having another,   doing a doing a refinance. The only thing is is it would add probably   another year or two   to my loan   Yeah.   Which I don't like. But, I mean, if it cuts my payments in half,   I might be okay with it.  

[01:58:44] Rich Chelson:

Well,   yeah,   understandably.   But your whole thing is   getting a goddamn title.   That's it. That's it. You know.   Even if   if you paid the the fucking Jeep off tomorrow,   how long would it take them   Carvana   to fucking send you the actual title?  

[01:59:08] Unknown:

Well, you know, when when all this started, I I looked on some of the forms   that I found about, you know, people that had dealt with titles and Carvana and all like this. Uh-huh.   One old boy   wound up,   waiting, like, eight months   before   Carvana   sent him his title. Other people,   got lawyers   and got Carvana to  

[01:59:39] Rich Chelson:

give up the title. Yes. But, you know,   it when   I made my last payment   for the Jeep   Uh-huh. Less than two weeks.   Oh, I know. You fucking sent me a picture of that. I was like I had the title. Yeah. In less than two weeks. Yeah. I had the fucking title in hand.  

[02:00:00] Unknown:

Yeah. No. You did. Yeah. Because I I remember you you had sent me a a picture,   and I'm like, I was thinking, fuck. That was quick. It's like, here. Take the motherfucker.  

[02:00:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:00:12] Unknown:

Yep. You know?  

[02:00:15] Rich Chelson:

But, of course,   TechSell Bank,   which is about five miles from my house,   that's who who had the title.   Right. Right. Just, you know, right here.   But I was surprised that I actually received the hard title  

[02:00:37] Duuude-Ron :

that quick.  

[02:00:38] Unknown:

Yeah. Normally normally, they they take for fucking ever.  

[02:00:43] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[02:00:44] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't know. I like I said, I'm I'm   once I get this title shipped, then, yeah, I'll probably pull it   and try   and try and refinance the Jeep if I can find someone to   refinance it.   Right. You know?   So I don't know. We'll see.   Now I I will say when I went to Mobile the other day,   either the cop wasn't paying attention, his mind was on something else, or I'm just blessed.   When   when I got off the highway and off the exit and I was going towards Guitar Center, there was a sheriff,   Mobile County sheriff,   roll up right behind me.   And,   I was because there was traffic, and I I was waiting for enough room to get through,   and get in the left lane.  

And when it passed up, I I got in the left lane, and he got on a far left lane because it was a dual left.   And, I mean, like I said, he was right freaking behind me. And, apparently, he didn't even think about it. So I was like, that's good.   Yeah.  

[02:02:02] Rich Chelson:

So And the only   and they're they're not gonna fucking pay attention to that little itty bitty tag.   Okay. Now I got, you know Oh, they do. They do.   Tag compared to your tag.   Well, shit. You can fucking  

[02:02:19] Duuude-Ron :

fit six of your tags on one of mine. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Texas got it in the in the windshield. So   Yeah. I saw that dude.  

[02:02:28] Unknown:

Dude showed me that, and I'm like, that's fucking crazy.  

[02:02:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. It's supposed to be so that they don't get stolen.   But I've never known anybody to go off and steal a damn  

[02:02:40] Rich Chelson:

license plate registration tag. So Right. Right. Yeah. I've heard about all kinds of,   those sticker tags being taken off cars in New Mexico.   That's a big thing. I think it was in New Mexico.  

[02:02:55] Duuude-Ron :

In New Mexico. Yeah. Or it was Arizona.  

[02:02:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. They had a real big problem with,   getting   those little tags because we have those on trailers. Those little tags just like you have on your license plate. We got them on the trailer plates   have those little tags as well.  

[02:03:17] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:03:19] Rich Chelson:

But they have it to where   you try to take it off,   it will get completely   yeah. It'll get completely destroyed.   Yep.   Yeah. It's got, like, a know about.  

[02:03:34] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[02:03:35] Rich Chelson:

Is yours like that? If somebody tries to tamper it with them, it just  

[02:03:40] Duuude-Ron :

basically Ours is just a saw it it would probably fall apart if you tried to take it off, but at the same time, ours is just it it's because   I remember when Texas used to still do the the plates,   and those had the little,   perforations   in it.   And so if you tried to take off, it would, you know, it would come off at about four or five, six different pieces.   Right. Oklahoma's didn't like that.   But, boy, you you make sure with when you got everything cleaned off and and and dried out and you go to stick that thing on there, better make sure it's on there good because that stuff turns into cement real quick. It's like, and it's done.   It is not coming off.  



[02:04:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[02:04:22] Unknown:

So Yeah. It was,   say   say a Missouri is like that. It's it's it's got four slits   in in the body of it. And if you try and take it off, you're gonna rip it.   Now Mississippi,   it's a whole piece.   But I've never tried to take one off, so I don't know if it would rip.   You know, I don't Right. Know if it gets, like, cement like yours does.   It sticks, so I I do know that much. Yeah. Well, ours, I mean  

[02:04:52] Duuude-Ron :

but I'm well, I I know that they they look because,   but our at least on the on our tags,   the police the police and stuff look because, Jean,   do y'all have black tags   in in   or did when you're in Missouri, I don't know if you if you know,   in,   Mississippi yet. But when you're in Missouri, do they have black what are called black tags?  

[02:05:19] Unknown:

No. They have black license plates, but no. Okay.  

[02:05:23] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   in Oklahoma, they have a thing called the black tag. And, basically, it is so that you keep the registration up on your car   Uh-huh. Or whatever vehicle is,   but it's   you're not driving it.   So, you know, you don't get the the,   you'd have a paid your, you you weren't driving it, so you you weren't paying your,   you know, your registration wasn't, wasn't being kept up. You know, you get your late fees upon late late fees upon late fees. You've got just a really low fee that you pay,   and you get a whole black sticker   for for your tag, and you have to just get the black tag,   every year as you go, but it's a really low price.  

But when you are when you have a black tag, you cannot drive the vehicle.   Okay. I haven't seen that down here. Okay. Well, you shouldn't because they shouldn't be driving the vehicle if they do.   And I've never heard of it whenever,   beforehand, but when   when,   we got Jaden's pickup,   and we had yet to actually transfer the,   the title over and stuff   to get, the registration all caught up.   We've,   we told them   we'd mentioned that, yeah, okay. It's got a black tag, but   and thought that I just meant you can't go on the interstate.   It's like so do not go   any place   except   to the store back in the pickup. You know, maybe drive it to your friends or stuff for the for a,   while we try to get our the money together to be able to get your,   to get the car the pickup registered.  

Uh-huh.   Second week of having it,   the little turd went off went went to went to Clint.   And while he was there,   he   he'd not ever he'd never driven to Clint before, never driven around Clint. And so he got himself and and Clinton   to get onto I 40 is a,   from Gary Boulevard is a   bit confusing.  

[02:07:39] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:07:40] Duuude-Ron :

And so   he kept getting him getting lost. He couldn't figure out how he's supposed to get out of Clinton.   So he get home before he got him some trouble.   And so he pulled up to a, police car, which is okay. He's like, you know, pull up into a police car and ask for directions. You know? Right. Right. And, and the policeman was like, yep.   Gave him directions. Like, but before you go,   I need to write you a couple tickets. And Jayden was like, for what? You didn't have a seat belt on.   And he was like, I didn't have a seat belt on, did I? Oh, no.   And that pickup's got a black tag on it.  

Like, yeah. What's that mean?   It is like that means you're not supposed to be driving it.   It's like,   then why does it have a tag on it? As and went through the whole spill of so you keep your registration current   for a very nominal fee.   You're but it is not street legal.  

[02:08:39] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:08:40] Duuude-Ron :

And,   and he's like, oh, no. And so he was like, well,   am I gonna be allowed to take it, straight home? He's like, yeah. And there was a highway patrol. He's like, yeah. I'll follow you home.   But when you get there, you better park it. And I guess, sir.   And, he Jade called me up later on, and he was like called me up.   During that, he's like,   while he's waiting for the ticket and stuff, he was like, hey, dad. Do you know you're not supposed to drive,   the pickup   at all? I was like, well, I know you weren't supposed to drive it on the on the major roads.   He's like, well, I'm over here in Clinton right now. I'm getting some tickets. Like, well, looks like you probably need to be getting yourself a job really quick then   because I ain't paying those tickets.  



[02:09:30] Unknown:

There's  

[02:09:31] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, you you see, that's that's just a life lesson that everybody Oh, no. It is. It was but it was and we laugh about it now. I was like, yeah. Leave it up to Jade to go get himself in trouble by asking the doing the thing that we raise the kids to do. Well, if you ever get lost, go talk to the policeman, and he'll help you out. Yeah. He also gave you fucking tickets.   And he was but the the thing he was so so shocked about was that the   the the seat belt ticket that he got was only, like, $60.   It's not bad. No. It's not bad at all. He's like, oh, I could put that. You know? The the black tag was, like, a hundred 20.   So it's a little bit more.  

But,   but then he was,   later on down the road,   he learned from that. He that kid wears seatbelt come hell or high water.   And, he had a, he had a   you know, we're all gonna have that that   wild that crazy chick is a girlfriend at least once in our life. You know?   Yeah. They're they're they're fun, but at the same time,   you you get real tired of them after after, after a little while.   And this girl refused to wear seat belts.  

[02:10:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And she would use I know a I know a motherfucker that's the same way, but go ahead.   Go ahead, Brian.  

[02:10:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. He was so this chick just   refused to wear seat belts, and he would hey, babe. You need to put a seat belt on. Hey, babe. You need to get a seat belt on. And,   he said he was dry they were driving through Amarillo once, and,   Jaden had, you know, had a, like, the Bud Ranch,   had a Bud Ranch,   a particular on his pickup. And, you know, he he was   just at that age where, you know, it's it's cool. It's rebellious to have marijuana for not paraphernalia,   but symbolism,   on you at at one time or another. And he had, you know, like, a pot,   lanyard that and stuff that held his driver's license and stuff on and and all that. And so this cop thought, you know, I'm gonna get them for for marijuana and and stuff. And Jayden was like, he   and he's like, I need I wanna I'm gonna search your vehicle. He's like,   for what? Because I you spell I spell marijuana. It's like, sir, you don't spell marijuana because there is no marijuana in this damn in this damn car. I was like, well, I'm gonna be I need to search it. It's like and Jayden kinda thought about it, thought about it, thought about it. And then,   as they were kinda arguing, he was like and, also,   you have a passenger with no seat belt. Jayden looked over there and was like, I fucking told you put your goddamn seat belt on. Congratulations.  

Thank you. And so   she got all stiff. He's like, well, I'm gonna have to see why I have people at a goddamn seat belt, you know, and all that.   And so   he,   after,   he got them separated, he and he said it was like like, 40 degrees outside, and he made   Alyssa sit sit on the curb and had Jade sitting inside the car.   Because because Jade was he was being respectful. He was like, oh, no. I don't see that. Okay. Well, if you think you have to,   then you're you can't then search, but it's not a you're not gonna find anything.   Right. Because I think it's I think it's just cool that, you know, it's just a rebellious thing. Not saying that he he didn't smoke. He just said that was just,   you know, what he his his reasoning why he didn't have bought my damn car now. He said, thank god they don't decide to go to invade your, your house because, you know, they have   I don't wanna bounce off. But   but he was, you know, he's like, but I don't I don't,   don't keep any in the car.  

And so,   he was, he was sitting there. He got   got finished, and you could tell he was a little perturbed because he knew he just made himself a big bust. This this is   kinda the attitude the guy the cop apparently was was kinda throwing.   And, he's like, well, you're right. There wasn't anything in there.   But,   you're   you're, you're you're gonna be, free,   free to go.   Young lady, though, she is getting a, getting a a a new seat belt, ticket. It was, like, $210.   Good. Good. And it was issued to her,   not to Jay, which is which is good because a lot of times they'll they'll issue it to the, to the driver because he's supposed to be the, you know, the captain of the of the   Vessel. Of the vessel. So Right. But   and, Yeah. So You know that. She got that. She's like, how am I supposed to pay this? It's like, I don't know. I guess you're gonna have to get off your ass and go get a job.  

That was shortly thereafter.   About a month after that, they that's when, when they finally split up. And, goddamn, it was one of the happiest times in our family   because she was   just   dumber than a bag of hammers.  

[02:14:42] Unknown:

And because   Well well, hang on, Brian. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Before dude tells you what he's fixing to tell you, because I know what he's fixing to tell you. I'm not fixing to tell you. Know. I will let you know that that that I tried.   I tried, and I just couldn't do it.   So, dude, go ahead  

[02:15:04] Duuude-Ron :

Tried what?  

[02:15:05] Unknown:

Go ahead and tell Brian.  

[02:15:08] Rich Chelson:

Well, I was the same thing with the with Rich when he was riding in my Jeep. It's like,   you know, put your seat belt on. You know? Because I wear my seat belt all the time   except for when I'm wheeling.   And I just   told him a couple times, and it's like, okay.   That's your ticket.  

[02:15:32] Unknown:

I tried to and and, I mean, I did wear it a couple times, and I got to the point. It was locking me up. So I'm like, fuck this. Took it off,   locked it in behind me, and and dude just looked at me. I saw the look on his face, and I'm like, dude, don't worry. I'll I'll take the ticket. And he's like, you're damn right you'll take the fuck off. Yeah. It's like, no. I was not I was not  

[02:15:56] Rich Chelson:

in any way, shape, or formed worried about   the ticket.   You're you're absolutely I was never worried about that. It's like, you know what? Knock yourself out. I don't know how much they are, but, you know,   have fun paying that one.  

[02:16:11] Unknown:

But, say, that's the thing for, what, four days? Because, yeah, it was the first day I tried, yeah, I tried a couple different times to wear a seat belt. I finally took it off, and and until dude left,   I didn't wear a seat belt. And, I mean, there was cops.   We saw cops all over the place. Oh, yeah.   You know? So I I mean, I'm not saying that   that, you know, I, you know, got away with   something great, but, you know, I mean,   I don't even wear a seat belt when I drive my Jeep.  

[02:16:43] Duuude-Ron :

You   know? Now I wear I wear one just   and and and stuff. It's just   it's just one of those, one of those things where   I   got into such a habit   that,   that, yeah, it was that   yeah. I'll go up. I'll forget it. Like, I'll be in a hurry, and I'll hop and, like, the truck   and and take off.   And the issue that I usually run-in with that is just fact that, yeah, I'll,   I'll be heading.   Eventually, I will realize it's like, wow. Something's not right here, and I'll and it'll dawn on me. It's like, oh, shit. I don't have a seat belt on.   But,   I mean, for a long time, yeah, I I was just that way too. I mean, it was just of course, I was   driving back.  

I I remember when they   just activated, you know,   made the, the law where you had to wear seat belts.  

[02:17:46] Unknown:

Oh, in a big chunk or in a car? No. I mean, in a car. You know?  

[02:17:52] Duuude-Ron :

And,   and that was a   that was one of those, little that was   a getting used to type of thing.   And I mean No. And I got I got really I got really good at   at knowing how to grab a seat belt   and drag it underneath my armpit   and clip it on because I thought somehow that was, you know, that was gonna still be a little.   And,   you know, what because didn't want to cross me.   But then, you know, eventually, we got the,   you know, they had that little step where the, seat they had the automatic seat belts.   Those were awesome. Because I I would sit down and just it okay. The it had my it had my shoulder dealt, but I wouldn't wear the lap belt  

[02:18:40] Rich Chelson:

and and stuff. So I was thing. A lap belt? I don't think I to anybody that had one of those cars that had the automatic seat belt,   I don't think anybody   ever touched the lap belt, and I didn't.  

[02:18:55] Duuude-Ron :

You see, that's the thing, though. I would rather wear a lap belt than a shoulder belt any day. Yeah. I would. I'm I'm with you. Yeah. It's   but at at same time, they would, you know, there   there were a few times there like, my girlfriend, if I was riding with them, riding around with them, going to, like, restaurant or whatever, they would they liked for everybody to wear the seat belts and lap belts and all. And so   there's a few times where I didn't realize that, I've, forgot that I had the seat belt on. I'd go get out just   goddamn it.  



[02:19:32] Unknown:

You see, that's the thing. In a big truck,   I never never wore a seat, but unless I was crossing a a weigh station.   Because nobody had I would strap it on me. I mean, I mean, for a long time, no no one cared, but, but when they passed a law that big trucks had to wear it. Yeah, when I went into a weigh station, I'd throw it on, or if I was getting stopped by a cop, I threw it on. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as I was done, off it came. I mean, I mean, yes, I get it. Seat belt saves lives,   and that is true. And and I'm not knocking seat belts, but for me personally,   I I've never liked them. Never have liked them.  



[02:20:14] Duuude-Ron :

I and, like, the the seat belt that I have in this truck here,   I don't know if the the little the little locking arm or whatever that that,   that locks your seat belt up. You know, if you move forward too fast. Uh-huh. I don't know if that fucker is just too damn sensitive or what, but there's times I'll be sitting there just driving along, and I'll go to lean forward and be locked locked. And I'll have to lean back, and I'll lock. And it'll lock keep locking me further and further and further back, and I have to unbuckle it. So I can't get myself did to me. That's what dude's deep did to me. It was it was it was, like, locking me back and back and back.   Eventually, I was starting to get a little pressed into the seat. Oh, god. I'm not a big star.  



[02:20:57] Unknown:

Yeah. That's that's when I was like, I'm done. I can't do it. Yeah.  

[02:21:02] Rich Chelson:

My truck does the same thing.  

[02:21:04] Unknown:

Yep. You don't mind. I don't know if it does it on your side, but it does it on the passenger side. That's for damn sure. No. It does it doesn't do it on my vehicle on the driver's side, but my truck,  

[02:21:17] Rich Chelson:

my belt is very sensitive.  

[02:21:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's crazy. So Yeah. I see. I've got around doing now is I'll lean forward   to the to the place where I wanna lean the post forward at.   And seat belts, the on the trucks, it has   the greatest invention in the world. They it has a seat belt lock.  

[02:21:37] Rich Chelson:

Love them.  

[02:21:39] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, you bet. My god. It's the it's the greatest,   lifesaver   in the world because I get to I'll put myself out there. I'll I'll hold the, hold the seat belt and lock it into place, and it'll just stay like that.  

[02:21:53] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. That there was the old system in in the trucks. We had a little latch on the seat belt, and you could pull it out and then latch it up, and that'll stay hey. I love them things.   Yep. They they need to put them in cars.  

[02:22:10] Duuude-Ron :

That would be that would be nice. Right.  

[02:22:13] Unknown:

That would be really fucking nice, especially in it. Because then I would probably wear   my seat belt because I could I could,   you know, pull out enough I mean, I I wouldn't pull out a lot of slack, but enough slack to where it's not, you know, up in my neck, you know, trying to squeeze the life out of me.  

[02:22:32] Rich Chelson:

Well, you you can   make your own   with an alligator clip.  

[02:22:39] Unknown:

You know, I didn't even think about that.  

[02:22:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:22:43] Unknown:

I did not even think about that.   Probably gonna have to remind me in a week or two because I'll probably forget.   So will I. I I don't I don't have an alligator clip.  

[02:22:58] Duuude-Ron :

I don't smoke weed. I was gonna say, you stop stop carrying those around when you stop carry smoking weed. So Oh, wait. No. How old did I do?  

[02:23:06] Unknown:

I've got some jumper wires   that has alligator clips.  

[02:23:11] Rich Chelson:

Well, you should know. I'm talking about   the ones that you that hold a big stack of paper.  

[02:23:18] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, the binders. Okay. Yeah.  

[02:23:21] Rich Chelson:

I've got one or two of those. Yeah. We call those alligator clips.   Oh, okay. It's just it's the same thing.   Yeah. Just use one of those   paper binder clips and, you know, put it at right where the,   seat belt comes from   the top   and just Yeah. Put it on your seat belt on Yep. On both sides.  

[02:23:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:23:49] Rich Chelson:

No. So you have both   the both the belt, the one coming up and then the one coming over.   You got those clipped.   And,   you know,   if you were to get into an accident, trust me, that clip is gonna fucking come off of there.   Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But at that point but at that point in time, if you're worried about the clip more so than you're worried about that fucking airbag   yeah.  

[02:24:17] Unknown:

Yeah.   No. I just I I I'm   yeah. I might I might have to look into that because   I might then just   maybe. I don't know yet. I'm the jury is still out about wearing my seat belt. I just I'd you know? Then the only thing about that is you have a fucking  

[02:24:37] Rich Chelson:

loose belt that isn't gonna contract when you take it off. So, you know Right. That's the only pain in the ass.  

[02:24:44] Unknown:

Oh, that that's fine. I'll just tuck it right there beside the seat. I don't care.  

[02:24:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:24:49] Unknown:

You know, it's I mean, that's that's not a big deal.   But yeah. No. That's I'll do that.  

[02:25:00] Duuude-Ron :

So  

[02:25:02] Rich Chelson:

that's it. That was in theory,   that was the tip of the day.  

[02:25:11] Unknown:

Okay. That's cool.  

[02:25:14] Duuude-Ron :

The tip of the Yeah. Yeah.   And tip of the day, you got me thinking because I never actually talked about the yellow lighting that I've discovered.  

[02:25:22] Rich Chelson:

The what? Yeah.  

[02:25:24] Duuude-Ron :

Wanna know how long a yellow light's gonna be yellow?   Oh,   go ahead. It it is   for every 10 miles of speed limit,   that's gonna be one second   of how long the yellow light's gonna be yellow.   So if it's if you're driving down a 30 mile an hour,   zone speed zone   Okay. And the light changes, it's gonna be three about three seconds long.   Yeah. If it's a 35 mile an hour,   three seconds it well, it's again, how it a minute how long a minute is completely,   depending on which side of the bathroom, door you're on.   So, you know, if you're if if you're riding along and all of a sudden you see,   you see the   the light change,   and, you know, like, it's a 45 mile an hour, zone or even a 50 mile an hour zone.  

You know, you sit there. When it changes, you go one,   two,   three,   four,   and it changes. It's a red.   Okay.  

[02:26:31] Rich Chelson:

So I'm gonna do that. And that's good on and that's good in theory, and it's and it's probably very true, but there's one fucking light that I have to go through   that as soon as it hits yellow  

[02:26:44] Duuude-Ron :

within a second, it's red. Yeah. Yeah. There's some And There's some that aren't gonna follow, but, yeah, there's  

[02:26:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. There's yeah. And it Sorry. And it's just this one light, and it's on the access road.   But, yeah, as soon as that hits yellow,   yeah, you better be fucking slamming on the brakes because That's that's what I am.   Yeah.   And, of course, it isn't   yeah.   Well,   just like New York, what major city has the fucking lights timed   to any type of fucking   traffic flow?   None.  

[02:27:22] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   I mean, MRO does.   Downtown.   M R O does. So you can you can yeah. If you're coming, like, down 287   and you come over the go to the, the rail yard,   You may hit that first first line that be maybe red. But as once that light turns green, by the time you get up to the line of the next one   and then usually, it's by you're starting to you you you're going, oh, it's not gonna change on me. I'm gonna have to stop again, and you start applying the brakes.   But about the time you get as long as you maintain the speed limit,   it just goes boom. Boom.  

Boom. Boom. Change. Change. Change. Change. Change. And it'll go all the way down till you get to,   back on the to, I 27 again.  

[02:28:15] Rich Chelson:

You know, in Lincoln going down 0 Street, which is the main drag   Mhmm. The the their lights are the same way   when, say, at Ninth Street because,   you know,   the lettered   streets go east and west, the numbered streets go north to south. So if you say you're sitting on   Ninth And 0   and the green light comes,   yeah, then by the halfway down the block, Tenth Street, the light turns green.   Eleventh Street, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.   So, yes, you know, those are timed.   Now   I can't tell you about it. Pretty much downtown in Lincoln, they're all timed out   Yeah. To where it's a good flow.  

And Yeah. When you hit   this first red light, you know, within   five seconds, the next block is gonna turn red and so on and so on. So, yeah, they do have in Downtown Lincoln,   they're timed pretty good.   Right. And the rest of the Now.  

[02:29:23] Duuude-Ron :

Now. Exactly.   Now the rest of the place,   if ever oh, for whatever reason, they've got five minutes between red lights.   You will if you get stopped by a red light they've they've had to put up   red light cameras, but then they were told they had to take them down.   But they had red light cameras because people were running red lights, and they couldn't figure out why people kept running red lights. Well, it's because goddamn the fucking red light's two day two days long.   Yeah.   They just you get there and you're sitting there. And, Brandon, I'm sure it is only about a minute,   maybe a minute and a half at longest.  

But it seems like it is for freaking   ever. You're sitting there just like, oh my god. Oh my god. Come on. Can we change lights already?  

[02:30:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Exactly. And   they're timed in off of a time circuit,   and, you know, there's no fucking cars coming in the other direction whatsoever. It's like Right. Come on, motherfucker.  

[02:30:26] Duuude-Ron :

You know? The hell.  

[02:30:28] Rich Chelson:

That's that my vehicle is here, and let's   go.   No.   It's gonna take a sweet ass time. Yep. No traffic coming from either direction, but   I'm the one sitting at the fucking red light.   And, yeah, it's it's gonna be less than a minute, but it   you that less than a minute fucking seems like a damn eternity.   Right.   Because why? Our society is, like,   go   balls to the wall   or complete dead stop.   Yep.   And me, personally, I like going   balls to the wall.  

[02:31:10] Duuude-Ron :

Absolutely.   Now Perfect.  

[02:31:13] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.   But   one day,   maybe.   Maybe it should be the day, and it probably won't be tomorrow either,   that when I get in my vehicle,   it's just like   don't care. Just if the red light stays red,   I guess I just look around and, you know, enjoy the scenery.  

[02:31:36] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:31:38] Rich Chelson:

That it but that day ain't gonna be tomorrow.   Nope. When it maybe when I'm about 80,   that day might come.   Where, like Rich was saying earlier,   I'm gonna get in the center lane and do five miles an hour under the speed limit.   Fuck everybody.  

[02:31:58] Duuude-Ron :

Piss everybody off. What? You don't like it? I'm sorry.   Actually, I'm not, but I will.  

[02:32:06] Rich Chelson:

You know, and if Rich wants to do that and I get behind him,   I will pass him to hit the gas and go around him.   But when it comes to that big truck and some of these people, it's like they wanna do 65   and a tenth,   and I'm at 65.   And trying to pass them, it's, like, only takes, like, about   20 miles   to pass them. Wow. You know, they're doing, you know, they're doing   64.9   miles an hour. I'm doing 65.   Yeah. That just   irks the fucking bejesus out of me.   Well, I had one truck. He wanted to pace me today.   And   as I'm trying to pass him, he wants to pace me. I was like, fine.   As soon as my trailer fucking   cleared his cab,   I moved over to the right.  

He didn't have any choice but to fucking slow down.  

[02:33:11] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. Yeah. We've known those folks for sure.  

[02:33:16] Unknown:

Yeah. So have I. I've I've   I've had a few slow trucks myself,   and   I hate it when drivers do that. It's just back to fuck off for three seconds.   Because it takes it takes I timed it. A car   when I was driving, a car takes roughly eight seconds.   Most cars do to pass you.   That's the average. It's eight seconds. That's what I   calculated.   And it's like   cars, you can go a lot faster, and it'll take a lot less time. But   a lot of cars, they're like, oh, no. It's a big truck. I'm scared. I'm scared.   And they take eight to ten seconds, and it drives me up a wall because that's too long because   they could screw up just once, and   I got a ton of ass of paperwork to do.  



[02:34:06] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hell yeah.  

[02:34:08] Unknown:

Plus a drug test.  

[02:34:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   And   and especially   going trying to go up a hill.   I got my fucking   pedal to the metal and the thing to the fucking floor.   Actually, it's down. Actually, it's down on the fucking block of the engine. That's how that's how fucking hard I'm pressing on it.   And I'm trying to maintain my speed   going up the hill, and we got this fucking   where I 14 and I 35 come together, which is basically the exit to go to Fort Hood.   Uh-huh. And everybody just wants to it's 65 miles an hour.   These motherfuckers wanna do 50.   It's like,   well, I wanna fucking try to maintain my speed   so I'm not doing 10 miles an hour when I hit the fucking top of the hill.  

Like, hit all the way over in the right hand lane and get the fuck out of my way.  

[02:35:12] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.  

[02:35:14] Rich Chelson:

Yo. Jesus.   Because it's a two right lane or   the far right has to turn.   The next   lane can turn or go and or keep on 35.   It's like, if you wanna go I 14, get all the fuck away over on the right hand side,   but don't do 50.   Come on.   Fucking morons.   Yeah. And the bad thing about it is they keep   fucking breeding.   Yeah.   Well, yeah.   Why?   Oh, because we need the next generation of dumbasses.  

[02:36:02] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. I got them.   They're they're the entertainment.   Oh, damn. Hello?   Exactly. Someone turned the faucet on.  

[02:36:12] Unknown:

Someone what?  

[02:36:14] Duuude-Ron :

Someone turned the faucet on. Of course, as soon as I rolled the windows up, all of a sudden, it's like, okay. Never mind. We're we're   writing kicked kicked up, but it was it was not just a just a pitter pitter pitter pitter pitter pitter. It was like pitter pitter pitter pitter pitter pitter.   And it was starting to get inside the truck, and then my arm was getting wet. And I was like, oh, let's roll up. Roll the windows up. Soon as they clicked   into place, it was like,   Better. Better. Better. Better. Better. Better.   Why?  

Yeah. So   it's almost   like, like, tarps   are on on loads.   Harps are, are rain repellent.   Now, yes, they do keep the rain off of it, but when you put them on, it keeps the rain away.   Then more times than not that I have had to stop on the side of the side of the highway, Indian Nation Turnpike   because I'll get almost to McAllister, and it starts to rain. And so what do I do? I pull off to the side. I get all get the tarps and and, strapped, and I get them put on top of the, on top of the OSB, and I start unrolling them. And as soon as I get the model thrown off to the side,   and I and I don't even have them bungee down yet. Just dropped off to the side.  

Rain stops.   Because the moment you got them off to the side, I mean, what are you gonna do? You're gonna pull them off again, roll them back up on the side of the road? No. You might as well go ahead and bungee them all up.   Yep.   And so  

[02:37:53] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Very true.  

[02:37:55] Duuude-Ron :

Every single time, it's like, doesn't matter. It's like  

[02:37:58] Rich Chelson:

Yep. You're more more than halfway through the overall process. Might as well just fucking finish it. Finish it up.   Yep. Because you're either gonna take it off on the side of the road   or you're gonna take it off at the delivery point.  

[02:38:14] Duuude-Ron :

And it might as well be at the delivery point.  

[02:38:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Whereas traffic isn't doing fucking   90 in the right hand lane, and you're just barely off the fucking white line, and they ain't slowing down for shit.  

[02:38:27] Duuude-Ron :

Nope.  

[02:38:31] Rich Chelson:

I'm waiting for this I'm waiting for this new law to come into effect in   Texas. They already have it in   is it New Mexico?   New Mexico, Arizona.   You know how you have to   slow down   20 if you can't move over,   you gotta slow down to 20 miles an hour   under the posted   speed limit   if you can't move over for, you know, emergency vehicles.  

[02:39:06] Duuude-Ron :

So now   Emergency vehicles parked on the side of the road or emergency vehicles coming coming your way   or coming, you know, moving on the road?  

[02:39:15] Rich Chelson:

No. Somebody that like, a cop has pulled somebody over.  

[02:39:19] Duuude-Ron :

That's always been a law,   a thought.  

[02:39:22] Rich Chelson:

No.   Now I believe it's Arizona.   If there is somebody   that is   not an emergency vehicle,   but somebody that has a flat tire and they're out there trying to change   that tire   and   there's no emergency vehicle around,   if a cop sees that,   they can pull you over.  

[02:39:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Okay. For anybody   stopped on the side of the rear. Okay. Okay. I thought you were meaning, like, for for tow truck drivers, any or police or anything. Because, yeah, if you're,   I don't that it I I'm thinking, like, for past, like, twenty years or so that   if a if, like, a policeman   had a car pulled off on the side of the road and you went just even doing the speed limit buzzed right past them into that lane   Yeah. You could get a ticket.   And so it was you know? And so it was always   slow down   and   move over. And if you can't see if you can't slow say you've got some moron who's got you locked into the that lane, then you need to slow down 20 miles below the speed limit and Yeah. Or,   or or more.  



[02:40:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That that is correct. Now   I think Texas is following suit.   If there is anybody   on the side of the road,   and you don't slow down,   you can get pulled over for it. Yeah. I've watched I've watched quite a few times, but I just think it is absolutely   the fucking funniest thing   where   DPS here on 35,   Sometimes there might be two or three cars   at one location,   and   one of the DPS officer is actively   engaged in, you know, a roadside   incident, you know, with speeding ticket or whatever.   And then there's two DPS cars in front of that.   And if you don't slow down, 20 below the posted,   guess what? They're coming after your ass. Hell, yeah.  

And so   I've seen that happen where   the two DPS cars   will have   gone and chased   two motorists.   When that third one got done,   he went up and met up with his group   and got in front of them,   and they continued to do the,  

[02:41:57] Duuude-Ron :

that Leapfrog each other.  

[02:42:02] Rich Chelson:

I thought that was fucking absolutely hilarious.   Well,   people know.   Slow down.   Move over or slow down. End of discussion.  

[02:42:15] Duuude-Ron :

So,   anyhow, so, well, looks like it's about time for us to get ready to start laying in this old plane.   So,   guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for taking the time and and coming back yet again to see what in the world these, us three   vets are are talking about, what are we what are we discussing. Sometimes we talk about   interesting things. Sometimes we get stuck on trucking, which is odd. I could talk about trucking. It's just when you start talking about jeeping, and I have no idea. You know? It's kinda like talking   SEO   for to pull around. It's like, what? Or yeah. Or talking computers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Software. Yeah. No. Ain't fucking working here. Yeah. Nope. Nope. Nope. That there's not,   not an active, not an active translator available. So  

[02:43:06] Rich Chelson:

No. It's But It's a No. Yay.  

[02:43:09] Duuude-Ron :

There you go.   So,   but,   guys, appreciate,   the listing. Now this show is a value for value show. And the reason why this is a value for value show is because I don't   really care to   limit what I say   to just make a a   a a sponsor happy.   And   you have to do that when you have sponsors.   And it's easier if you just   slow down, step back, and just talk to your to your audience and go, audience,   what do you think this show is worth? What do you what do you personally   think it's worth? Or is it worth   investing a little time into it? Maybe you could help me, help me and Rich and and Ron out by   doing a chapter art. You know?  

This is setting up the chapters.   Sometimes our,   the the AI on our on our host gets a little over exuberant in the chapters, and so it may put in, you know, 75 chapters when   eight would work.   While other times that, it   could use a little fine tuning because it's, we're still talking about the same thing, and all of a sudden, it throws a different chapter in there. Could always use a little help in the in the chapter setup. If you wanted to help us out with chapters or invest a little time, we'd love to have you, help us out with that.   Maybe you're good at creating chapter art. Love to have chapter art. Maybe and, actually, what I've my vision on, the chapter stuff is a lot like what no agenda does,   that they're kind of the template that I'm going, I'm aiming for in that   people create   album art, and everybody tries to goes in their their,   bit of album art, and then Rich goes through and looks at them and goes, I like this one the best, uses it for the album art. And then,   all the others get used as the chapter art. So because you hear us talk about something like   cops, pulling over cars that are speeding, and you saw you saw to make a piece of chapter art that is about car the somewhat humorous of cars   getting pulled over by,   DPS   officers that are,   that are on the side of the road or leap you know,   a bunch of DPS drivers leapfrogging over each other. You know, you'll hear something that's being said. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I can write I can make that, and you pop, jockey it out on the AI, and AI cranks something out and poop while all there you go. You got you got a   state trooper leapfrogging over another state trooper as they're pulling somebody over. You know? You come up with something like that. Would love to have that. I mean, you could use that for the chapter arc for that specific,   spot. And so I'd love to have something like this, but if you're good at, being a prompt junkie or you're good at doing just,   graphic,   graphic arts,   would love to have hand drawn,   computer drawn,   clip   art, whatever,   type of,   of album art that you would like to make. Just make sure that it's a square piece of album art, about 1,500 by 1,500,   pixels a piece. And you can send it over to me. That's   Brian,   or not Brian.  

I'm Brian, but, I'll fix it to give you my real life   email address. But, yeah, circle cast, that's circlecast,@Gmail.com,   or you can send that over to, to Rich, and that's r chelson, that's catls0n,@Gmail.com.   And let,   then give hand those over to us, and we'd love to put them together and give all the proper credits to the folks who, who do so.   So those that's time,   time and the talent. And if, you   are not good at   doing   doing art or or creating websites or doing anything like that that you'd like to be able to contribute time or talent to, then there's also the ability to provide   treasure. So if you wanted to provide some money to the to to help the   the hosting fees and just help us to be able to,   to get stuff that done that we think needs to be done for the show, then you can contribute,   in that fashion also. And there's ways of doing that because we use   podcasting two point o,   compliant,   feeds.  

So we have the ability if you use a modern podcasting app, you can go to,   podcast,   podcastapps.   Newpodcastapps.com,   and that will allow you to be able to see   what type of podcast apps are out there that   are are great to use. There's Fountain. Fountain apps, great app. I'm also a big fan of True Fans, and, it's not to be confused with OnlyFans, two different critters altogether.   One one will open your eyes, the other is just to open your mind.  

[02:48:22] Unknown:

And and  

[02:48:25] Duuude-Ron :

then, got, my personal my kinda my commuter that I'm using these days is Podcast Guru.   But the cool thing that they all have is the funding tag, which allows us allows you to go in and hit support this show. Some,   some apps hide the support the show button, but it's usually in the modern podcast app somewhere.   Support this show, and there, you it'll pull up a PayPal site, which if you like PayPal, awesome. If you don't like PayPal and you'd like to just send us a, you know, a a cashier's check or something, I mean, let us know. I'll I could send that over to you. And if I have enough people asking for it, then I'll just post a, I'll post the,   the   the,   the mailing address on on the, on the site. So   but you can   you can be able to, send, send money over to us through through PayPal just with a couple quick clicks. And it's not a you can either do a reoccurring,   contribution, or if you want, you could do just a one time contribution.  

Just however you'd like to be able to help us out. And how much do you want us want to to send this? That's completely up to you. You wanna send a buck? Okay. Send a buck. You You wanna send a hundred million bucks?   You're you're you're my best friend. So and,   I would I'll I'll   I'll I'll I would be all sorts of happy.   I would probably get a hold of you anyhow and go, are you sure you were meant you meant to hit that many zeros?   And, and and just to double check, but you know?   But,   you said however much money you liked you feel,   is worth   because the American dollar   is called little green certificates of appreciation for a reason. That's what they're for. They're hey. I appreciate the value of the product you you have. I wanna I'll here   take these certificates,   of appreciation   and and and thank you. That's exactly what money is about. It's just you saying, I appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate the value. I appreciate the product. I like this product. So and and away they go.  

So   with that, I wanna say again,   thanks for everybody.   And if you wanna to contribute, please contribute in some way. If and, if you don't, then   please to continue to be the, the, ever beloved douchebag that you are because we will we love our douchebags   because, hey, we still have the ability of at least be, knowing that someone's listening to us, and, and we don't,   we don't hold it against you. We just, you know, we just we'll affectionately call you a douchebag because, you know, it it's fun. That's a fun word. We need to use douchebag more often.   So   so anyhow oh, we just left a Dude. Yeah. We just lost dude again.  



[02:51:21] Unknown:

Yeah. Dude just damn. Dude was like, yeah. I'm out. Poof. I'm out. Poof. So   No. His phone probably   just said, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I ain't stopped too long. I'm out. It's too long. It's done right here. Bye. So perhaps.  

[02:51:36] Duuude-Ron :

So as I was wrapping up, fix the pass it on over to you. So, anyhow, Rich, what do you have to say?  

[02:51:42] Unknown:

Well, I just I just I just wanna,   again, thank everybody for listening. These I mean, it's, god, this is episode 57.   And,   I mean,   I am shocked we're still I'm I'm shocked we still have people listening to us, you know,   and especially from where? Because they're all over the place.   Mainly here in The US, but we've got people around the globe listening.   And it it just amazes me. You know?   Because, like, some of our conversations,   you know, people would be like, what the hell are they talking about?   You know?   But but as as Brian said,   you know you know, if you wanna reach out and help with chapter art, cover art,   you know, that's great because, I mean,   I yeah. I'm not the best by no means.  

And, I mean, we don't expect high quality work,   but, you know, it's,   it's just   you know, send it over. I'll look at it, and I'll use it. I I guarantee you I will use it.   Ron was laughing, douchebag.  

[02:52:52] Duuude-Ron :

Douchebag?  

[02:52:54] Unknown:

He said dropped again. Just won't be able to say goodnight. So dude's not gonna be able to,   He's failing. Yeah. He's yeah. His phone, he said screw it. So   but, anyway, you know,   you know, reach out to us. Say hey. You know, tell us if you like us, if you hate us. We don't care what you say. Just reach out and, you know, say, and, you know, you can email Brian at,   [email protected].   I almost gave my email address for you.   Or,   me, [email protected].   And if you would like to hear the wisdom of the dude,   just send an email to me or Brian,   and we will make sure the dude gets it.  

And and he will impart his wisdom   on you all. I'm telling you.   Because,   yeah, dude dude has got some wisdom. He's funnier than hell.   But   but yeah. Yeah. Other than that, just,   you know, keep listening. Share it out. You know?   Tell your friends, family about us. Laugh at us. Cry with us. Yell at us. We don't care.   You know? And send us an email because,   we love doing this. So that's about all I got. Normally, I pass it to the dude, but his phone got tired and said I'm out. So Yep. And he said, never mind. We are done.   So  

[02:54:26] Duuude-Ron :

But, Brian, is dude, this is awesome being able to do this every week. Heck, yeah. It is, man. I'm I I have a I have a great time doing this. It's   I I kinda wish we I was the situation was in it was a little bit different where I could actually be at,   be able to use a little higher quality microphone than what I'm using. But, you know, it is what it is what it is, and there's at least at least one time out of the,   out of the month that, that I get  

[02:54:54] Unknown:

get to use a a better quality microphone. But Right. Is that right? No. I know. It's it's it yeah. It is yeah. It's frustrating, but, you know, the thing is, honestly, with the way,   Zoom has,   upgraded their audio. And then when I run it through   Auphonic and everything,   honestly, the audio doesn't sound too bad at all.  

[02:55:20] Duuude-Ron :

So I'd like to see what,   sometime   like to see what if where if where are you gonna be compatible with something like,   like Riverside or something like that to see if we get a little higher quality   audio recording,   that way. But  

[02:55:38] Unknown:

We can.   Riverside   does cost a little more than Zoom. I will say that. Yeah. I'm not sure how much more because   I've looked at, Riverside a couple times,   and,   you know,   but, yeah, that price is really kinda  

[02:55:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's a little little, yeah, gets you a pucker a little bit.  

[02:56:01] Unknown:

Yeah. It does. And but but   what they have,   you know, as far as tools and stuff like that,   man, I tell you what, it's it's awesome.  

[02:56:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is.  

[02:56:13] Unknown:

But yeah. That here that pricing,   well, the standard,   well, that's only five hours a month.   We'd   need fifteen hours a month. That's $24 a month. It's almost $300 a year. Yeah.   But   yeah. I mean   and I think you can do everything in Riverside.  

[02:56:38] Duuude-Ron :

And I think Pretty much. Yeah.  

[02:56:40] Unknown:

And I think they have,   integrations   with,   Auphonic, but   reading this here,   I mean, shit.   I could probably do the audio just right inside Riverside.   Let me know on it, Brian,   because that's that's Yeah. That's about $300 a year, which, I mean, it'd be worth it.  

[02:57:05] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Yep.   And,   I wonder,   if just, like, how dude just calls in, you know, since he doesn't actually have a computer set up, and I only have a computer set up, you know,   every three weeks.  

[02:57:21] Unknown:

So Well, let's see.   Let me look at this because I, and see,   you know, if they have   call in available.   I I think they might, but,   let me just go through, Riverside   and,   see if they have have that option.   I think they do   because, I mean, they are,   you know, pretty robust.   Right. You know? So but, yeah, we'll see. I'll I'll look at it. You know?  

[02:57:56] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm. Alright.  

[02:57:58] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:57:59] Duuude-Ron :

So   Good. So, well, guys, with that, I guess we'll go ahead and we will land this plane. Y'all take care. All you listeners, I appreciate every single one of y'all listening,   and, we will see y'all next week. Rich, we'll see you next week too, and thank you again for, for coming on. And let's, let's see what are we type of fun we can have next week.  

[02:58:23] Unknown:

Alright, Brian. Be careful this week, and we'll talk to you next week. See you then. Later.  

[02:58:28] Duuude-Ron :

Bye.   Bye.