Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets! This week, hosts Brian, Rich, and the Dude dive into a variety of topics, starting with a light-hearted discussion on the aftermath of last week's debate, which quickly turned into a 'dumpster fire.' Rich shares some exciting personal news about his real estate ventures, including going back into contract for a house and receiving an offer on his current home. The conversation then shifts to upcoming events, including the Operation Tears of the 22 live event and the Stubborn Rally, with some humorous anecdotes about the challenges of attending these events.

Brian discusses his plans to visit Amarillo for the 4th of July, bringing along some fireworks from Oklahoma, and the hosts reminisce about past experiences with fireworks and bottle rocket wars. The Dude shares a frustrating story about dealing with a broken air conditioner and the ensuing chaos, while Brian talks about his recent struggles with technology, including a water-damaged tablet and the challenges of setting up a new one.

The episode also touches on the intricacies of podcast advertising, the evolution of media censorship, and the benefits of podcasting 2.0. The hosts share their thoughts on the importance of backing up data to the cloud and the convenience it offers. They also discuss the challenges of finding the right advertising strategies for their podcast and the potential of using local advertising networks.

As always, the episode is filled with humor, personal stories, and the camaraderie that makes 2 Grumpy Vets a must-listen. The hosts encourage listeners to reach out, share their thoughts, and support veterans in need. Don't miss this engaging and entertaining episode!

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[00:00:00] Unknown:

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[00:00:16] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. This is true. You are right. I am not getting up for PT in the morning.   That's not happening. The land But it   will it fly   you? No. No. That's just not gonna work.  

[00:00:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, I am your host, Brian Lyle here with the other 2 hosts. We got Rich and the dude,   and we are talking about the aftermath   this week. For sure, we're   because last week, we were talking. It was during the debate. We were just kinda made some comments about the bait and our thoughts and all that.   Yeah. Holy smokes, man. That turned into a dumpster fire and a half,   real quick. And but I have to give I'm gonna give some kudos out to where the kudos need to be given and, ridicule's out to those who   really need to be ridiculed.  

So anyhow, so we're go, we'll go ahead and we'll jump on in. But before we get all started up, Rich, how are you today?  

[00:01:19] Rich Chelson:

Well, going crazy. Going crazy, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah.   Got some good news,   all the way around.   I'm back in a contract   with the house down here, the 1 I looked at earlier   and tried to go for.   The sellers didn't wanna do it.   So, but but this time, apparently, they were a little more   a little more amenable   in,   everything. So,   yeah. So so I'm back in the contract there, and then I found out,   last night, I got an offer on my house up north. Uh-huh.  

[00:01:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Right? There you go.  

[00:01:58] Rich Chelson:

And and   so I countered   and they came back and,   raised their raised their offer a little higher and I took it.   So the paperwork is getting drawn up with that. So   it sounds like   within   2 weeks to   well, 3 weeks maybe.   Okay. I might I might be doing a lot of dag gum driving because I still I still gotta run up, get   my stuff I'm getting out of the house Right.   Come back down here. And   you see also,   I don't know if we've   talked about this on a podcast yet or not, but,   operation tears of the 22 is having their live event   on the 25th, July 25th through 28th   in Moyers of Moment. Last week, actually.  

No. Did we? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. My yeah. Yeah. My brain's been smoked this week. You were you were still trying to trying to recover from from going to stubborn rally. Oh, well, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:03:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That too. All of a sudden, feels like it was 3 weeks ago and went just 2.  

[00:03:09] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Oh, god.  

[00:03:11] Rich Chelson:

And and guess what? We gotta ask to come back again next year. Oh, there you go. And but but Adam got smart and moved it back to October.  

[00:03:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, thank god. Yeah. Maybe I'll be able to attend next time then because I wasn't about to go down there during July.  

[00:03:26] Rich Chelson:

I'm crazy enough, and I'm gonna go down there during July. So Right. Right. Yeah. No. It was but, yeah, next year, it's October 9th through 12th.   And so, yeah, we, yeah, Adam asked us to come back again, and we're we're like, hi.   We didn't know. You know? Right.   But,   so, yeah, that that happened. And then,   yeah. Like I said, I went into contract with the   that 1 house I I looked at   down here with the hardwood floors. So, man, it's gorgeous. God, big ass backyard.  

[00:04:03] Duuude-Ron :

So it's a second house?  

[00:04:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. The second house. Gotcha.  

[00:04:08] Duuude-Ron :

Gotcha.  

[00:04:09] Rich Chelson:

And,   and then,   yeah,   got an offer on mine, countered,   and I accepted this offer.   And my, my realtor up north is actually doing the paperwork   right now to get everything rolling there. So,   yeah.   Once   once we get that paperwork signed, then it's up to the title company   to,   you know,   do their job. And after that, then it's closing.   Right. And then of course we have   our our tears event.   And so, yeah,   I'm not sure   it's gonna be a juggling act for a minute, but it'll be a good 1. You know?   You definitely gonna be doing a lot. So And and then by the time I get back down here,   I ain't going nowhere the rest of the freaking year.  

Screw it. I'll be done, man. I'll be wore out.   I don't know. I might. But at least for a month, man, I ain't going nowhere.  

[00:05:14] Bryan Goodwin:

It ain't something out of anywhere. It's gonna be it's you're you're gonna be,   you're gonna be mister homebody.  

[00:05:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Exactly. Because   well, let's see. My house is a 1, 000 miles from here. And if I have to run up, get my stuff Is it really? Yeah. It's 993.   God dang. Yeah. So so   so if I have to run it before the event, that's 1, 000 miles up, load my stuff up 1, 000 miles back,   and then,   and then it's,   like   8:60, I think, out to Oklahoma.   So so   I would have to come back, unload the stuff, drop the U Haul off,   get a few hours of sleep, maybe do some laundry and then haul ass out to Oklahoma,   be out there for a week   and then   come back here,   go to an appointment,   and then,   possibly maybe close on my other house, like, a week or 2 after that.  



[00:06:21] Duuude-Ron :

Trash your what?  

[00:06:22] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Go ahead.  

[00:06:25] Duuude-Ron :

As far as your stuff in the house is concerned   and trying to yeah. It's gonna be a   juggling act   to get that.   Have you thought about getting a pod   and just put everything in the pod   and then have the pod obviously delivered   down to Mississippi?   But Right. Have it delivered   once you close on the other house   so you're not hapten to   storage unit   and, you know, drive the stuff down yourself. I know it may be   I don't know what the cost difference   is, but   have you thought about getting   oh, excuse me.   Getting a pod for your stuff and doing it that way versus a U Haul?  

[00:07:20] Rich Chelson:

Yes.   And a pod is anywhere between 1500 to $3, 000.   Also, U Haul's   about 800.   And   say, I don't have this other house yet, and I probably wouldn't have this other house   before I closed on my house.   So,   and and I already have a storage unit. And I mean, I'm not getting,   I mean, a 15 foot U Haul will hold everything that I'm putting out of my house. Everything else is staying.   I'm getting I'm getting my personal stuff, the washer and dryer,   my bed,   you know, my my monitors, you know, shit like that. And that's it. Rest of you know, my tools,   rest of shit, Stan.  



[00:08:08] Duuude-Ron :

So the dish is What I'll what I'll stand?  

[00:08:14] Rich Chelson:

My, convection oven, my Blackstone, my microwave,   my refrigerator,   dishes,   a full set of dishes,   and,   let's see what else.   Probably a few other things. I can't think off the top of my head, but but, yeah, a lot of the stuff is staying because all I have left after that is just my clothes   and tubs.   You know? My stuff. Tubs and stuff. So yeah. Because   now and while my lawnmower's staying,   my,   my little trailer's staying   that's outside. You know? I mean, I   you know, it's all, it's all going with the house.  

[00:09:00] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really? Yeah.   Yeah.   So Was that was that part of the offer and everything   with all those items?  

[00:09:11] Rich Chelson:

That was my decision   before anybody ever   looked at it.  

[00:09:18] Duuude-Ron :

But the new homeowners   are they already know that everything. All that stuff is gonna stay there?  

[00:09:25] Rich Chelson:

Yes.  

[00:09:26] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:09:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They   yeah. Yeah. Because,   in the lit it was it was put in the listing   what was staying with the house.   And so so that that stuff that stuff had had had had had already been stated before,   anything had,   you know, ever been talked about.   Oh, okay.   So   so, yeah, that's that's what's happening on this end.   Good. And and and and I still need to, find some time to shave. Haven't found 0. 0.   0, wait. Hang yeah. Oh, no. No. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.  

[00:10:05] Duuude-Ron :

Shave. It's not like you're getting up from PT in the morning.  

[00:10:10] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. This is true. You are right. I am not getting up for PT in the morning.   That's not happening.   But,   on   well,   no. No. No. That's just not gonna work.   But but, see,   I was gonna say,  

[00:10:31] Duuude-Ron :

I, resemble that remark.  

[00:10:35] Rich Chelson:

No. It it it,   was it was it yesterday? Yeah. It was yesterday.   When I got up,   shoot. I was on my phone from 8 o'clock because Breezy called me and wanted to video chat,   or maybe that was this morning.   That was this morning. Yesterday morning,   Matt called me.   And and then as soon as I hung up with him, there was there was more more phone calls. My realtor, Melinda, was was, texting me at the same time all this was going on. Breezy was trying to call me, and his and and I'd I would everything just went like this.   And then I had to go look at some houses in the afternoon. So I   I I was able to get a shower, so I didn't stay. I just   haven't had time to shave yet. No love,   No. No. And it's like dang it. I wanted to shave and at least look nice. You know?  

So   that's what's happening with me   so far this week. Well well  

[00:11:38] Duuude-Ron :

well, look at Brian. The the razors missed his face quite a few times. Oh, yeah. Yeah. For a while.  

[00:11:47] Bryan Goodwin:

A lot. Razor is dot. I I I've dodged razors come flying at me. I'm like, oh. So Mhmm. No.  

[00:11:57] Rich Chelson:

So, dude, what you been up to, man?  

[00:12:02] Duuude-Ron :

Man, I tell you what. My week was   a dumpster fire.   So last Friday, got the air conditioner serviced.   Got some Freon put back in the system.   Didn't know that the main drain   or the condenser   was clogged.   So   the main drain   filled up,   overflowed the condenser into the drip pan.   The drip pan was not in the right   spot that it was supposed to be in.   But Sunday, I see I hear this tick noise. And how many times   how many times do you look up and look at the ceiling?   Not very many. No. Really. I'm hearing this   heck noise. I'm like, what what the hell is that sound? You know, it didn't even dawn   on me that it was a dripping of water. Well, I had a nice, great, big, huge bubble up underneath my paint of water up on the ceiling   because the drain pan, well,   it wasn't doing its job. So   I popped the water. I'm like, okay. Let me get up there, find out, figure out what's going on, get the drain pan at least moved into the correct position so it the secondary overflow   would drain, which has started doing that.  

I'm like, okay. Well,   you know, hopefully, I   it's all good until,   you know,   next weekend when I can,   you know,   more follow-up on it. Well, about 2 o'clock Monday morning, the whole freaking ceiling,   a 4 by 8,   roughly,   piece of ceiling,   just   crashes   in on the floor. I'm like  

[00:13:58] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no.  

[00:13:59] Duuude-Ron :

So,   you know, with all the water   that had been   collected by the insulation   and all that. The sheetrock just failed.   And then I had a 4 foot roughly a 4 foot by 8 foot hole   in my ceiling. You know, I'm looking at all my air conditioning ducting and all that. And I'm like   so then I finally figured   it had to redirect the main drain   and do a   well, it's an ugly fix, but at least it's fixed. Then an ugly patch   to patch up a hole,   with OSB plywood.   Mhmm. Because that's the only thing I could   get   real quick.   And then just so I wouldn't have what? It was a 100   Monday, it was a 101,   102 here, something like that.  

Wow. So   just   trying to   it got to be a a nice   92 degrees by the time I was done.   So, yeah, I had to take off work, and that was my day on Monday. So   yeah. And it's just the week has just been   outstanding   ever since.  

[00:15:21] Rich Chelson:

Well, okay. Let me ask you this. Did you put,   did you put Freon in yourself, or did you have someone else do it?  

[00:15:29] Duuude-Ron :

No. I had it serviced by a by a company.  

[00:15:33] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Okay. Okay. Let me ask this. Why didn't they clean out the drain?  

[00:15:39] Duuude-Ron :

They well, he couldn't find the plug, which is is understandable. The system is 35 years old.  

[00:15:44] Rich Chelson:

Well, okay. I under I understand it, but but there's still a drain, man. And, I mean, they do this.  

[00:15:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They do. They do. He did,   but we couldn't freaking find   where   the where the hell the drain was at.   Well,   once   the the fucking catastrophe   happened,   I found  

[00:16:09] Rich Chelson:

it. Well, yeah.  

[00:16:11] Duuude-Ron :

So   and I'm not going to   go back on that company   for that because,   you know,   it   it's my fault.   So I, will take full   brunt of responsibility.   I'm not gonna go after them for   that and not getting the drain line unplugged because I don't even know where the plug is at. It's some it's plugged up someplace   where the drain line goes into   the outside wall to where it drains outside.   Mhmm. But I don't know where it's at. So I just   had to make a new drain line, and at least it's not draining into the attic anymore. And  

[00:16:59] Rich Chelson:

Well, that that is a good thing. Is your house cooler now?  

[00:17:06] Duuude-Ron :

A little bit.   Not like I would like it   at the current cost of electricity.   But, yes, it is a little bit cooler,   And this being a, what, 35 year old house,   you know, the insulation is is starting to collapse.   Yeah. Up in the ceiling, the blown insulation. It's not like it used to be when it was first blown in. And   so there's some work I have to do on the house.  

[00:17:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Right.  

[00:17:38] Duuude-Ron :

But it's   it's a little bit cooler enough to where   at least I can get to sleep at night   cool.   And,   you know, it gets to be about   80, 81   in the house with   the air conditioner running.   Again, it's an 1800 square foot house. So   even though I have some of the doors and some of the vents closed for this not getting air conditioning,   it's just   it's just an older house, the windows, and everything else.   Well,   it is what it is.   It is what it is.   I guess I'll get over it. I'll cry a little bit. I've already cried a little bit over it.   Just a week. No. Actually, I didn't cry.  

I said a lot of choice words   at 2:30 in the morning.   Stomped around a bit   through a couple of things.   So if you wanna call them   crying,   yeah, I I did a good amount of crying at 2:30 Monday morning.   Yeah.   So that's   go ahead.  

[00:18:51] Rich Chelson:

I was gonna say that's that's the wrong way to get woke up if you ask me. So, yeah, I I would I would probably have a few choice words myself.  

[00:18:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:18:59] Rich Chelson:

Especially with no coffee.  

[00:19:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No.   I was not unfortunately, I was not able to   come out into the living room, look at it, and go,   damn. I wanna go get a cup of coffee.   I probably should have.   I probably   should have because the damage was already done. Right. And it's like   then at least   sitting there looking at it, I would have had a cup of coffee   sitting there looking at the hole going,   you know, crying and saying all my fucking choice words and and cussing, screaming, and stomping and,   you know, all that. But you know what? I would have had a cup of coffee, but, no, I didn't even think about getting a cup of coffee. Dude,  

[00:19:47] Rich Chelson:

dude. I know. Coffee is the first thing, man. Come on. You know   you know it as well as I do. Coffee is number 1.   Everything else can wait. It  

[00:19:58] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. You're yes, you are absolutely correct. Everything else could wait.   I I just I looked at it, and I was so   pissed,   for lack of a better word,   that it's like, y'all coffee didn't even enter my mind. I'm like but now that I now that I think back on it, it's like,   yeah. I should've just, like, looked at it,   went and made a cup of coffee,   made my coffee, sat down, sipped my coffee, and then looked back up again at the hole and go,   how are we gonna get this shit fixed?  

[00:20:34] Rich Chelson:

See, that's I mean, that's that's exactly what I would do because it's like, I'm sorry. No.   It's just I gotta have my car. I my brain can't function.   I mean, it was   this morning when, when when a Breezy video chatted me. I had just I had been up maybe 5 minutes. I was still making coffee.   And it says, like,   shit. I don't wanna answer it, but I always answer when breezy   calls. So I started talking   so I started talking to her without my coffee,   but   it didn't take long for me to quickly remedy that situation.  

[00:21:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you said you were already making coffee, so it probably was just the brewing time.   Right. Yeah. Right?  

[00:21:23] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But but, see, and, see, that's the thing is Breezy is about the only 1   that can Breezy, MJ, or me is about the only 1 that can get away with me talking to him before I've ever had any coffee.  

[00:21:41] Duuude-Ron :

Well, Steve, I can probably I can probably deal with you before coffee because I have dealt with you before coffee   at, you know, at some of the other events, but, you know,  

[00:21:52] Bryan Goodwin:

I'll just turn it over. I've never seen seen seen the dude with a tear in his eye when he walked away, but he did it.  

[00:22:03] Duuude-Ron :

No. But   in the process of,   talking to you in the morning without you having coffee, Yeah. By the time you get your coffee made, yeah, you need to get slapped.  

[00:22:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[00:22:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. You're you're right. Yeah. I I I know it, dude. I know it. I mean, I I mean and and that's the thing. Anybody that knows me, I tell them in ahead of time,   do not talk to me without my coffee. When I at least a half a cup, give me a half a cup.   And, and my brain starts to,   whatever it starts to do in the morning. I,   I don't even think that hard in the morning.  

[00:22:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because, you know, when we were out there, it's like, you know, you wake up, good morning. Yeah. Kissed my ass.   I haven't talked yet. Leave leave me the phone. Good morning.   Bullshit.   It ain't good until copy is served. That's right.  

[00:23:06] Rich Chelson:

That's right.  

[00:23:08] Duuude-Ron :

And you Yeah. And, you know, I I'm the same way, but, you know, I have my, you   know, my,   kettle to heat the water, and I do my instant coffee.   So I'm all ahead of you. You know? I'll have that half a cup of coffee done before you   before you get yours poured.  

[00:23:27] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Oh, I know that.   I know that.  

[00:23:32] Duuude-Ron :

But I remember a couple of mornings that's like, you want some instant?   Oh, hell yeah.   It's already you've already got the you already got the, the water boiling? Oh, hell yeah. I'll just do instant.  

[00:23:44] Rich Chelson:

Hey. I don't care if I'm scared. I ain't scared.  

[00:23:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:23:53] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I'll worry about that later.   So so Brian Well, at least at least that  

[00:24:00] Duuude-Ron :

is done, and then just work has been   oh my god. Work has been just another   nightmare dealing with   what I have to deal with before I can even get on the road. Hell, I didn't even get on the road   this morning until freaking   almost noon.  

[00:24:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, wow.  

[00:24:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Mhmm.  

[00:24:24] Rich Chelson:

That's crazy.  

[00:24:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It was. And I was   I'm too happy. But, of course,   waiting on other individuals that have   well, we ain't gonna go there. I didn't leave until   I didn't leave until almost freaking noon, and   my 1 way trip was a little more than 2   and a half hours just to get to the branch.   And then when I got to the branch today,   they didn't even have anything ready.  

[00:24:55] Rich Chelson:

Oh, wow.  

[00:24:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. That really   sent me right over the edge.   I bet.   So I I looked at him and was like, well, I'm gonna go out and fuck I'm gonna go out front and I'm gonna have a cigarette.   So you got y'all figure this out, and   I'll get back with you.  

[00:25:16] Rich Chelson:

There you go.   It's the best way to do it.   So,   so Brian, why are you looking so perplexed?  

[00:25:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, help me with the I have just came across   A picture. Okay. Well, what I was doing is I was looking around on the mail just seeing you know, trying to find something that it's, some of the different topics that,   they won't might be able to talk about.   Mhmm. And they were talking about   Laura Flint Oil.   Talking about what? And   Beth Laura Flynn Boyle. She's from,   Twin Peaks.  

[00:26:04] Rich Chelson:

Twin Peaks. What? The restaurant? Sure. Okay. The thing that  

[00:26:09] Bryan Goodwin:

no. The television.   David Lynch's Twin Peaks.  

[00:26:14] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:26:15] Duuude-Ron :

Never watched it, but go ahead.   Just let you know, Brian   yeah. Just to let you know, Brian,   your video keeps freezing up.  

[00:26:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, does it? Yeah. It does. Yep. Hold on. Let's fix this. Let's do this right here   and right here.  

[00:26:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I can't Here we go. And let me strike this over here. I can't say as I have ever watched the show.  

[00:26:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.   Well, either way,   really struck me was that they the top the the   the headline is Laura Flynn Boyle,   54,   makes rare comment about ex   about her ex, Jack Nixon, who's 87,   as reveals   that they still keep in touch.   And what really threw me is that Laura Flynn Boyle is only 3 years older than I am.   And then I looked down at a picture of her, and it may not be the most flattering picture of her, I guess, because it's her straight on.   Right. But she looks like she's about 62.   She looks 10 years older.   And I'm just going, holy crap.   There's no way she is 10 years old or 3 years older than me.  



[00:27:39] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, I know I'm old, but God dang, I look better than that.  

[00:27:44] Bryan Goodwin:

And I'm trying to see if I could find at least a deep, a modern picture over the with different shot because it is hers. She's   just not the oh, yeah. I see. I'm I'm real choppy on video.  

[00:27:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You are.  

[00:27:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. So I know exactly what to do with this.  

[00:28:02] Rich Chelson:

I'm, I'm, seeing a picture of her. Let's see here. Let's go. She's really nice looking, actually.  

[00:28:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. She's She's beautiful.   When she was growing up, she was there. When she was younger, she was   very beautiful, but, you know,   I never knew she was only 3 years   older than me. Right. And I was just going, no. Oh, she's not 3 years older than me? Apparently, yeah. Yeah.   She's she's 53. I'm 51.   Or she's, what, 50 yeah. Or 2 years older. I gotta do math sometime.   She's 50 no. 54. Okay. 3 years. Yeah. So  

[00:28:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And she's she's,  

[00:28:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I think I've got 1 thing I want about.  

[00:28:48] Duuude-Ron :

And how old is Jack Nicholson, you said? So   He's old. You said Jack Nicholson?   Yeah. Okay.  

[00:28:55] Rich Chelson:

80 some.   87.  

[00:28:59] Duuude-Ron :

87.   So a what? A 34 or 32 year difference   between them.  

[00:29:06] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:29:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Look.   Gerard Butler just, just found love again. That was the other thing that kinda caught me   is that Gerard Butler, 54. He's also   just, you know, at least he looks   about our age.  

[00:29:22] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:29:23] Bryan Goodwin:

And he's 54 also.  

[00:29:26] Duuude-Ron :

And, just to let y'all  

[00:29:28] Bryan Goodwin:

just to let y'all know, if you have enough money,   women will find you attractive because he apparently just landed a 25,   a woman who is 25 years his younger   bikini model, and she can't seem to do anything that doesn't have under boob involved.  

[00:29:49] Rich Chelson:

Well, see, though, the thing is,   though, look at the roles,   Gerard Butler has played.   I mean,   put the money aside.   And I mean, you know, I mean, wasn't he wasn't wasn't he 1 of the hot symbols,   sex   symbols for a year 1 time?  

[00:30:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, he he played,   lanatus in,   in 300.   He also was,   I can't think of the name of the movie, but he played the, he was,   he played   a part that is actually very similar to what   the what the lax male coaching is because I talk a lot about masculinity and stuff.   And he was a very he they portrayed him as being kind of a   kind of a chauvinistic style of of of a guy,   in in the show. And I can't think of what the name of the movie is, but and I'm not gonna look it up because,   yeah, Daily Mail and all their 37, 000,   ads on here is what's choking me down.  



[00:30:56] Rich Chelson:

Well, I don't doubt that.  

[00:31:00] Bryan Goodwin:

So I asked probably to go off, and I think I've still got a, a  

[00:31:06] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, he you know, you know, that's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. He does he does have a buttload of money, but also   he also has the looks,  

[00:31:14] Bryan Goodwin:

you know? Oh, yeah. He he definitely has the looks.  

[00:31:18] Rich Chelson:

You know, I mean, I mean, I'm not saying that that that, you know, I'm just saying.   I can see that Who was the   25 year old.  

[00:31:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Gerard Butler.   Yeah. They, yeah, I can't they go off and and   keep you from being able to view anything on, daily mail if you put if you turn your ad blocker on.   It's like, we file ads on our sites. It   looks like you're using an ad blocker. We allow them to advertise to help fund our site. It's like  

[00:31:51] Rich Chelson:

Well, it's   well, it's either that or pay, like, $9 a month just to read, you know, read a newspaper, and it's like, yeah, ain't doing that. Yeah. Well You know? I I mean, yeah, the ads are very annoying. So so, Brian, what have you been doing this week?  

[00:32:07] Bryan Goodwin:

This week, I have been getting ready to go to Amarillo is what I've been doing. So You're going to the big town of Armadillo?  

[00:32:14] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yep. What pray tell you you go to Armadillo?  

[00:32:18] Bryan Goodwin:

I wanna hang out with the grandkid and   watch fireworks. And son wanted me to run off about a $100 worth of fireworks from, from,   Oklahoma, because he thinks that Oklahoma has got more powerful fireworks   than Texas does. So I was like, alright. Well, that's your money, man. I'll I'll do what I want.   Right.   He made a mistake in not telling me what type of fireworks he got. So he's getting a big old glitter.   There's a, not a glitter, but a sparkling sword, which I found just absolutely hilarious. So, like, so, yeah, it's what a bunch is, like, $2 or 50¢ or something like that. Oh, damn.   So  

[00:32:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. You see. So are you guys are you guys gonna have a bottle   rocket wars?  

[00:32:59] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. I mean, well, he's got we got some, Roman candles and and, Oh, so you're gonna have Roman candle fights?   Well, I'll let them shoot Roman candles at each other. I'm not my,   my my I'm getting old enough to where my my skin's getting a little crepey, and so I don't wanna go off and light up like a crepe, you know, like crepe paper at a,   at the, at the Carrie prom. So   Come on, Brian. Live a little too. No. I just don't wanna go.  

[00:33:32] Rich Chelson:

No. No. That would be funny.   Your your I'm sure you would find that funny. I I would. I would.  

[00:33:39] Duuude-Ron :

And we're and let's say we heard this loud poof   all the way from Amarillo or Armadillo   or Amarillo.   It's like everybody was working around going, what the fuck was that poof sound?  

[00:33:51] Rich Chelson:

That was What was that?  

[00:33:55] Bryan Goodwin:

We'll know. I just went up in a flame of smell and puff a smoke.   So,   but how how, you know, all in all, nothing, nothing big's happening in in   in my area. Just got,   just working on some advertising   and,   trying to decide what,   what direction I I really wanna go business wise. I mean,   how do I wanna get the word out? I'm still   I've got 1. I got 1 paying, 1 paying client.   And Sweet. Oh, there there's that win.   Now I just need to get   4 more paying clients so that I can then   up my prices once more and,   and then once more   and then once more and once more and once more. So   about say, I've got what?  

Let me   brought up real quick. I have to tell you.  

[00:34:53] Rich Chelson:

So I've got  

[00:34:56] Bryan Goodwin:

there's the offer. Which  

[00:34:58] Rich Chelson:

which,   which ads are you looking at doing? Like Facebook, Twitter, X?  

[00:35:04] Bryan Goodwin:

5:30.  

[00:35:05] Rich Chelson:

LinkedIn?  

[00:35:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I'm   I'm actually looking.   Well, it's a combination of duct tape marketing or grill marketing.   And,   and then also.   Don't don't tell me you're gonna do a TV commercial wearing a chimp suit. No, no, no. Not that type of gorilla marketing. I mean, gorilla, like in gorilla warfare where you're just the people aren't realizing they're gonna get advertised to, or they find themselves in a place where there's an advertisement where they are not expecting it. You know, like   my little, my little QR codes that, that I stick up on on,   at random places. And most, most of the, the truck stops have got at least 1 of me somewhere.  

So  

[00:35:57] Rich Chelson:

You are leaving a legacy.  

[00:35:58] Bryan Goodwin:

I am leaving them. And it's funny because,   John, the guy I was talking about, he he,   he's like going, well, I could tell where you stopped. He's like, why? He's like, because there's a style I'll be pulling up to a to a pump or something, and all of a sudden, there's a orange, relaxed mail sticker stuck on it.   And   there's once there but there's what's funny is there's 1 sticker that I that arrives   and then disappears. And then it arrive it shows back up and it disappears   because   they just got finished   working on a it's well, it's at the truck stop there in, in Bowie.   And   they had just gotten everything, all the pumps and stuff opened up. And I walked by and I saw little 1, 1 of their poles. I was like, all right, well, I'm just gonna stick it onto the pole. Right. Well, the next day I got up and it's the problem that I have is that from time to time,   I   will, it becomes a battle to see where I can put the sticker that, and it won't get taken down.  

Cause a lot of times, if I put a sticker up shortly thereafter, someone's taken it off and it's like, gosh. Alright. Damn it.   And that's happened a lot of times if I put it directly on the, on the, pump, yeah, it's going to get taken off, off the pump, just run right away.   So   trying to find someplace else that's  

[00:37:24] Rich Chelson:

Well, put it on the front side of the pump, you know, on the stainless steel part.  

[00:37:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Don't. Nope. That's I've I've done it there. Nope. Poop.   On the pump. A lot of times if it's right off to the side,   but also if you can find a truck stop, that's a little bit older, but you really don't care as much.   So, like,   like, over in,   Harold,   Texas,   I've actually got a couple up on some of the different some of the different prompts because they just they really don't give a shit. They just as long as people are filling up and it's not keeping them from being able to fill up and go in, pay, go grab a subway sandwich or some Chester's chicken or something like that, they're okay. And as long as the pumps are working. As long as the pump is working. It doesn't if it's Yes. So So.   But others, I mean, I've gone to the,   quick, what is it?  

Is it Quikstop or QuikTime? Qt. Anyhow, whatever the qt trip. Quiktrip. Thank you. Yes. It's Quik something,   over on Gainesville. That's, like, the 1 there a bomb,   man. Well, yeah. I mean, it it's a nice it's a nice little truck a little little truck stop   They're on my 35, and and,  

[00:38:37] Rich Chelson:

that's And only they're they're huge.  

[00:38:40] Bryan Goodwin:

No. This 1 this 1 here is I mean, the store itself is a good size, but, there's only, like,   just a little bit of parking. There's not much for   so but I was like   I walked up. I went to go use the bathroom, and I as I walked walking up, I realized, like, hey. There's a set of set of windows beside the door.   You know, nothing really on there. There's at 1 spot is is often that hidden area.   You gotta be paying attention. If you see it, it'll be great.   So   get up in the morning, go use to use the bathroom and all that. Grab a sticker and walk up and peel it off, stick it on there, and,   go to the bathroom, come back out. And by the time I come back out, somebody had already taken the damn sticker off. I was like, fuck. Goddamn it.  

So so it's a battle   to to find places, but I'm I'm getting them up slowly. So I've got that, but I'm also thinking,   there is a,   a   a company,   an advertising company in,   Western Oklahoma called Apex Advertising.   Mhmm. And what they do is they have televisions   set up in different,   in different   restaurants   and barber shops and things like that, and all they are is just a rolling advertisement.  

[00:39:55] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:39:56] Bryan Goodwin:

15 seconds ads, 32nd ads,   depends on what it is, but it's really inexpensive. You you put up a 15 second ad for, like, $25.  

[00:40:05] Rich Chelson:

Oh, wow.   And,   so over, over what timeframe   is that a month or yeah, yeah. $15  

[00:40:12] Bryan Goodwin:

a month for 15 second ad per screen.   So you want to put it on 1 screen. All right. It's $25,   but it on 2, 2 screens. Okay. Then you'll get $50 that type of thing.   So, and they've got several around it. So I'm really trying to, I'm trying to size, like, do I want to go on ahead and put together a little video   ad,   little 15 second video ad that will   might entice people to, to try to or try to entice people to go over to to Relax Mail and and   check it out. I mean, why not? You know? I mean, why not is is the is the idea.  

[00:40:52] Rich Chelson:

And that's I mean, I mean, as long as you're not signing a contract for a year or 6 months. You know? I've actually I've used them a couple times, and I'll do it for a couple months and  

[00:41:03] Bryan Goodwin:

and Right.   And then stop, and I used it for,   for above all home care whenever I was helping my friend, Burl. Right. Really?   So now I mean, when you wanna quit, you just quit, and they're like, alright. Cool. And and they they just don't reupload your, your ad to the, to the television the following month. That's pretty cool.   So it's it's good. It's a neat little way of doing that, but I'm also thinking,   let's try, you know, do we wanna try Facebook ads again and   and break it up where it's a 25   spend $50 per month, but just split up into 2525   and just do an a b comparison   of the whole way.  

Try a couple for a week, which one's doing better. Alright. Let's chain take the, the the loser. We'll stop it. Put a different 1 up in its place with a small change and just   constantly swap flat back and forth on there and see   what we get.   And so   I was trying to find a decent   AB testing,   site or not even site, but a plugin for,   for WordPress. And I'm just not finding anything. I mean, it's just That's weird because there's a lot of them out there. Oh, no. There are, but just a lot of them. If you wanna do the actual AB testing, it's like, alright. Well, that's gonna be, $99   a month. It's like,   fuck you.  



[00:42:37] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[00:42:40] Bryan Goodwin:

So I'm I'm broke, man. I understand that y'all y'all worked your ass off. But   and, again, Google. Oh,   but Google was such a wonderful tool that they had. It was. I  

[00:42:54] Rich Chelson:

But but hold on. Hold on. You see,   some of these software companies   that there are, you know, like that AB testing   that you're looking at, they want $99   a month. Okay. Yeah. They worked their ass off.   But how much money did they spend getting that program wrote,   you know, and all like this? And how many people do they have subscribed? So that's a $100 a month per person. Yeah. 10 people is a 1, 000. A 100 people is 10, 000. Mhmm. Okay? Yeah. I mean,   it it just adds up. So   how many how many times over have they been paid   for   that software?  



[00:43:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Man,   they it's been way too way too I mean, they've been paid plenty of times. Now am I is it,  

[00:43:45] Rich Chelson:

Well, see, this is the thing. Go because because back in the early days of the Internet and all the way up into the 2000,   you could pay 1 time by a software   and   boom. You you had the software and you had updates.   And then they slowly started going to this   subscription as a service,   which is like everything now.   I mean, shit. I'm I'm shocked. I'm shocked.   You know, they don't they don't have public restrooms as subscription as a service.  

[00:44:17] Bryan Goodwin:

I think, man, someone just someone just heard it when, like   Right. Why don't we not think of it? Alright. Yeah. We can set that up. We can just I've got an app we could make. We could make the app, and then you just hold your   Right. RFID tag on there, and then just read.   Well Connects to the Apple Wallet. Boom. You're good.  

[00:44:38] Rich Chelson:

Okay. What's up what's up with, like, fucking McDonald's and and and Burger King and all these others that that that now have mobile apps. What the hell is that for?  

[00:44:47] Bryan Goodwin:

It's like you're you're Actually, it's,   it is to track you.   Yeah. Exactly what it's. They wanna know where does it go? And they, you know, everything that they, when, you know, when everybody was talking about the,   about the TikTok band, they know too much about you.   They know they know   less about you than what Facebook knows. They know less about you than what  

[00:45:13] Rich Chelson:

McDonald's.  

[00:45:15] Bryan Goodwin:

But no, I mean like the McDonald's app, the subway app, the Wendy's app, the   burger king burger king app, Arby's app. Sonic app.  

[00:45:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. C. C.  

[00:45:29] Bryan Goodwin:

C. And They all know, hey, he's traveled over here. Every time he goes home, he likes to order a big old large pizza when you know, every Friday so he gets home. So we know we can actually advertise them to to him then, which makes again, makes no sense. Why are you spending money on somebody that you already know is going to buy crap from you every Friday?   They just want more money. Well, I know, but again, there, but to, to want more money, but, and maybe that's just me, the broke man talking.   Maybe that's me not having   the the businessman   line of of, of thinking.  

Because, you know, if I was go if I was looking at it and going,   well, we already know that Brian, it goes off and he buys   a 2 large pizzas   every Friday   at around 6 o'clock in the evening.   Why the I we don't need to advertise to him anymore. We need to advertise to the guy who downloaded the app   and only used it twice.   Mhmm. In the last 6 months. In the last 6 months. Didn't use it to add effects.  

[00:46:39] Rich Chelson:

But but now you see, that's the thing.  

[00:46:41] Bryan Goodwin:

They wanna keep everything in your mind so you're always thinking about it. Well, then I get that. That's I mean, stay on top of your mind. That is the branding  

[00:46:52] Rich Chelson:

advertising. That's the Well, yeah. I understand that. But still, I say no.   No.   Because when   when I roll up to Burger King or or,   McDonald's,   first thing they ask, you use an app? Fuck no.   Hell no.   I'm gonna order my food off the menu like a, like a regular human being.   Oh, and and they they You get to interact with a human there. Oh my god. Yeah. Right?   You know? And and and the thing is they, they are freaking   trying to say, oh, you'll get special discounts.   Yeah. A small freaking fry.  

[00:47:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Get a small fry and a   yep.  

[00:47:38] Rich Chelson:

Buy a,   buy a hamburger and you get a small fry.   Wow.   Yeah. Yeah. You know, a small fry is what? A dollar,   what,   79 now? I can't remember.  

[00:47:53] Duuude-Ron :

That  

[00:47:54] Rich Chelson:

was all. Too damn much. Well, yeah. No. It is. It is.   But yeah. No. So it's like it's like, yeah. I don't I don't freaking do them apps. I can't stand them apps.   It's like   it's   like you said, yeah.   Yeah. It's freaking another way for them to track you   And   and, gear,   adds,   you know, to to what they want you to see. Right.   It's like, no. I don't like that. I am.   Hey. I learned something.   Uh-oh.   I learned something.   A tablet that has been immersed in water,   even if you let it dry out for 2 weeks will not work.   It will not.  

[00:48:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I'm sure why were you putting your tablet in the bathtub?  

[00:48:47] Rich Chelson:

Well, I,   did put it in the bathtub,   up at Stubborn.   When we were up there,   I had my tablet, and   I say I had my bible, I had my tablet, I had a few other things. Well, they was on the floor   behind mess   behind the driver's seat. Okay.   And I knew they were there.   Totally   spaced it all out.   And then I went to the river.   Oh.   And got the floorboard of my Jeep. Just,   I mean, I'm talking like inch and a half, 2 inch of water   and, and, and I pulled it out and it's like, yeah, I'm not even gonna try and turn it on. So I let it dry out,   put it back in my Jeep, forgot all about it, let it dry out, and I pulled it out the other day,   I think it was yesterday,   and tried to turn it on.  

Yeah.   That dog, nope.   That dog don't hunt. So   I was like, damn.   Because I actually use a tablet more   than than I used to. So it's like, fuck, I need a tablet.   Then I get then I go on Best Buy.   Right?   And I was looking on Best Buy.   And I got this big son of a bitch.  

[00:50:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, can't see it. Nope. Nope. Oh, hang on. It blends in with the background.  

[00:50:12] Rich Chelson:

Hang on. Let me,   turn my background off.   No. I don't wanna   why do why do I always have to figure this out?   Yeah. That should be it. Because  

[00:50:29] Duuude-Ron :

you old.  

[00:50:31] Rich Chelson:

Right.   So, yeah, I got this.   This is   this   this is a, Samsung   Galaxy,   a 7 s   or FE  

[00:50:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[00:50:46] Rich Chelson:

Tab.   And,   believe it or not, it's used.   It was   refurbished,   by the Geek Squad. And Okay.   They had it for sale for,   like, $400   off what it normally is.   There you go. So yeah. But but yeah. So   so I got a tablet again.   And,   but, yeah, this 1 this 1 I'm gonna And is it   Go ahead, dude.  

[00:51:26] Duuude-Ron :

Does that 1 can you put a SIM card in it for a phone number for   your,   or do you have or do you do Wi Fi on it?  

[00:51:36] Rich Chelson:

I, actually, I do Wi Fi on it, but you see with with, Samsung products, if you have a Samsung phone,   you can actually tie your Samsung phone   to this tablet   and basically operate it as a big ass phone.  

[00:51:53] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, there you go. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't have a Samsung phone, so I'm not gonna buy a Samsung tablet.  

[00:51:59] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean I mean, you don't need I mean, because   this this runs on Android anyways. So so I just use the I just use the Wi Fi or my mobile hotspot on my phone,   and, I can still get online   and,   you know, do things that I need to do. Because sometimes,   you know, if I'm out and about it and   I have to sign papers for,   you know, house,   you know, house deal shit, and   I don't have to wait till I get home and trying to look at my screen and read the information.   No.   So, yeah, my old ass got this big ass tablet. It's 12 and a half inch.  

[00:52:39] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that'll definitely come in that'll definitely come in handy when you're using it,   for a navigational tool in a Jeep.   That's for damn sure. Yeah. You just gotta fucking buy a you just gotta find   a big enough bracket holder to hold it.  

[00:52:55] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[00:52:58] Bryan Goodwin:

That is And they're out there though. Best place to look for them is over at a truck stop.  

[00:53:04] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[00:53:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Thank you. You can find them at a truck stop.   Because a lot of truckers will actually use it for their,   their e logs.  

[00:53:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   But yeah. No. This 1 this 1 here is GPS enabled.   So, yeah, it doesn't it doesn't need a phone. It's   I I can   I can hit Google Maps, bring it up, and   it's like, damn?   But but yeah. No. No. I got I got this 1 because my other 1   when I saw it died, it's like, shit. I actually really need 1 now. So that's why I got this 1. Well  

[00:53:48] Duuude-Ron :

So are you able you able to pull up any of your,   stuff out of the old, tablet, though?   No. I can't.  

[00:53:55] Rich Chelson:

I can't. Won't even turn on, dude.  

[00:53:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. I mean, that's so much yeah. Right. Well, it it,  

[00:54:03] Rich Chelson:

freaking won't even charge.   I mean, I tried because   because before I even tried to,   turn it on, I plugged it into the charger, you know.   And   yeah. No. It yeah. Screen said nothing. I tried turning it on, and I've tried it 2 or 3 different times. Yeah. It it's done for. It's a paperweight   is all it is.  

[00:54:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Officially been bricked.  

[00:54:28] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Yep. And so yeah. Next time, I'm gonna make sure it's not in the floorboard.   I mean, I didn't lose much stuff on there because,   you know, I didn't have much stuff, but   I did I did lose a few things.   But nothing major because I had backed up a lot of my stuff.  

[00:54:52] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:54:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. This I've I've gotten I've gotten in the habit of that   because let's say my phone,   right?   My old phone,   the the, back was cracked and, actually, the other day, it was acting up. Right?   And so I was right in Pascagoula,   and I'm like, well, let me go to the Verizon store because   the phone was, you know, the phone service was just shitty.   And so I went in there and I was asking him. He's like, dude, I can already tell you.   Ingalls Shipbuilding,   they were testing the radar system on that ship   that's fixing the leave port.   And apparently apparently,   when they're running that radar system, it wipes out cell phones.  



[00:55:44] Duuude-Ron :

It was Or how far of a distance?  

[00:55:48] Rich Chelson:

2, 3 miles.  

[00:55:51] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.  

[00:55:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Because,   when I went to the Verizon store, I was just on the north side of 90.   They were,   they were fine. Phone worked great.   And,   but but but but when you got south of 90,   and I like that, yo, yeah. No. It it was it was done. So   so I was like, okay. But, you know, with the back cracked and all like that, it's like, you know what? I'll go ahead pay a $100, get a new phone.   And I got the same phone as I had before.   So and and I had backed everything up. So so when I swapped,   I had everything.   I was happy.   Okay. I had my messages, my numbers,   didn't lose anything.  

So that's why   I suggest back back everything up.   I know I know some people don't like the cloud,   but you know what?   The cloud can save your ass. Oh, no.  

[00:56:55] Bryan Goodwin:

My contacts are all   Google contacts.   Mhmm. So that's I put everything   everything up there.   The my pictures go up. I've I get a I do a Google subscription so I can   put all my pictures up on on the Google,   on the Google Photos,   and then   I mean, it it's all it's all on the cloud. Now my so many times my daughter and my son, they're like going,   I don't wanna do that because then I have to   start trying to figure out who all the phone numbers are. It's   like post it up on the   shared up on the cleanser. I don't wanna do that. And it's like, I don't see why not because it's a lot easier. You don't have to worry about going new phone who dis.  

[00:57:39] Rich Chelson:

So Right. Well, and and see and see, this is the thing. At first, when when the cloud services came out, I was like, oh, hell no. Uh-uh. No. Well, I loved it. I knew exactly what that what good that was. Oh, no. I no. I see see. I didn't trust it. And then finally,   I I tried Dropbox and then Google Drive and all like that. And I'd I'd keep couple files up there and then found out I could access some other. And I was like, okay. Alright. I could deal with this.   And I've just gotten used to it now.   So this way now because like you said, new phone, who dis?  

[00:58:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Right?  

[00:58:14] Rich Chelson:

I'm sorry. But, yeah, that's   because, yeah, if a strange number comes in to me, it's like, I'm not gonna answer you,   you know,   you know, unless you say, you know, Richard or something, then yeah, okay. I'll be like,   but, yeah, other than that, it's it's,   yeah, I've gotten used to the cloud, so I I don't mind doing the cloud thing.  

[00:58:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It's,   I've gotten, like I said, I've gotten around to where I really enjoy   everything the cloud does. May and that's just because   I I used to be 1 of those who could who was just all about the technology,   and I would try everything out out that was brand new. I mean, if it's if it's closer to bleeding edge, I was gonna try it. Mhmm. Willing to just ignore   any type of pain that would be involved with it. That was 1 of those where I had I had my, a, a calendar setting   put in,   in once a year.   I would go through slick my hard drive and reinstall windows because that way I got the best, you know, a fresh install on it and all that. And I, hell, I even used to do it for the longest time with,   with my phones.  

Right. And nowadays, it's like going, no.   Right. What? You want me to, you know how hard the biggest pain in the ass that is? Hell no. I ain't gonna go off and reset my damn computer to to to factory defaults. Hey. You're out of your freaking mind,   man. Or even, even my phone's like, I already know I can go back and I can re download all the, all the apps that I need.   And essentially what I do nowadays is I'll go through   and   I'll turn off all these, all the,   the, the cellular connections. I'll go into cellular and all the apps. I'll just turn them all off.   And as I go as I use 1,   I'll turn it on and go, okay. Well, I need this need that, cellular on this 1. Turn it on.  

And   after about 6 months or so, I'll go back in there. And whichever ones are still off alright. We're deleting. Apparently, I haven't touched this 1 in 6 months. I don't need it. So Right. Right.  

[01:00:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. And, see, that's the thing. You know, when you know,   this was a new phone. This tablet was set to fact, you know, back to factory.  

[01:00:40] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[01:00:41] Rich Chelson:

Trying to set all that shit up,   and then, of course, field phone calls and text messages and all this and and emails. It's   like, I I just I wanted to break something.  

[01:00:53] Bryan Goodwin:

I really did.  

[01:00:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because it it was like it was like people. Yeah. And okay. Check this out. Normally,   my phone don't ring.   Right. It I don't get no emails.   No 1 wants to talk to me. But it seems like when I'm trying to do something,  

[01:01:11] Bryan Goodwin:

oh, hell no. Oh, yeah. The whole world wants to call me. Yeah. All of a sudden. Yeah. You could be as long as you're, long as you're sitting around doing nothing, no 1 cares to talk to you. Soon as you get something that's really important.   Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Oh, my God. The world's come to an end. I mean,   well, that's like my, I finally got my daughter,   trained on it that, especially at, from Saturdays, 8 o'clock in the morning about 11 o'clock.   Don't do anything. Don't try to get ahold of me. Cause I'll, I've gotten around where I just turn my phone off   because   I've got coaching clients and podcasting and things like that that I'm trying to do.  

And it's just easier. Just turn it off, set off to the side, and not worry about it.  

[01:01:58] Rich Chelson:

Right. Well, that's like that's like this evening, just just before we started,   Breezy was texting me,   asking me if,   come on. Are you busy?   I'm like,   I I feel bad because normally, you know, at this time of night, I could talk to her. I'm like, yes, honey. I'm busy. I'm podcasting tonight.   Okay. I was gonna show you something I was building. I'm like, oh, fuck. You know, it's like it's like, you kill them here, sweetheart.  

[01:02:25] Bryan Goodwin:

You got that manipulation done. She's like going,   oh, let's let's turn   that heart just a little bit right there.  

[01:02:32] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. She could do it. I'd I'd tell you what. She could do it. So, yeah, I'll probably hear from her, first thing in the morning. So   because, I I told her to call me, but yeah. No. It's it's funny.   When I want people to call or or bug me or interrupt me,   nope, don't happen.  

[01:02:54] Bryan Goodwin:

So it's, it's That's the same way. I mean, especially, and especially if I'm in a crunch   where I'm like, you know, I've got like 2 hours before,   podcast is supposed to go out and I just realized I forgot to throw something up And I'm like, oh, shit. I better get this all to ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Text messages going off. It's like, what? What you got? I'm try I've got stuff I've gotta do. Can't do that. Ding ding ding.  

[01:03:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. It's like, son of a bitch. Goddamn, man. Quit that.  

[01:03:24] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[01:03:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Why is the world gotta burn when I'm busy?  

[01:03:30] Rich Chelson:

I know. It's dude, I feel you, man. I feel you're paid, brother.  

[01:03:35] Bryan Goodwin:

And I I and it might be just a touch of you know, I'm I'm not ever been diagnosed with ADHD, and I'm not ever going to be 1 who goes off and says, you know, my ADHD   just causes all sorts of problems because   1   no. A lot of times, it's just you happen to not be whatever it was that you got distracted by   just means whatever you got distracted by was more important to   you than the thing that drew you away than what you were drawn away from. Right. With ADHD.   It's just you thought the good looking girl walking by was a lot more important   than deciding on how to do your taxes. You know? Hell, yeah. Yeah. Time. But, you know, a good looking girl in a bikini, sorry. Nothing's gonna pull you away from that if you're a guy. Now if you're a girl and you're you're you're getting stuff, then, okay, you know, a little different. But Well, maybe, maybe not. You never know. I've known girls to turn and look at  

[01:04:32] Rich Chelson:

look at a girl in a bikini and go, damn.  

[01:04:36] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm and I I've known a few. I've known quite a few. And they're but they're they're few and far between, especially if the if you're married to them, then you're gonna go, why are you like that?   Except for the time that whenever I was we were in, San Diego and had just gotten her mood, and we had been married for a while. Well, see, I got married, went off to Westpac,   came back. So it's been about,   we'd been married about 9 months, but hadn't actually lived together yet.   It's, since we married. And so I had to finally had time where I was able to go down, pick her up, get a U Haul, get everything loaded   up, and drag her butt all the way back over to California.  

Mhmm. And so we got over there   and went to,   what was it?   Is it Vons that's over in San Diego? I think it's Vons.   Anyhow, I went to a grocery store.  

[01:05:31] Rich Chelson:

That   that kind of sounds familiar.  

[01:05:33] Bryan Goodwin:

So, yeah. Yeah. Grocery stores. This is a place where there's a bunch of groceries. Amazing. What what that is. No. No. Amazing stuff.   Just a great idea to call it a grocery store and actually have groceries there. It's No. I mean, Von's,  

[01:05:46] Rich Chelson:

the name.  

[01:05:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But oh my god. Anyhow, so we were we were in there. We're doing some doing some shopping and, getting stuff. And this girl walks in with   you can tell she's it has to have been a stripper just because of how her   her schoolgirl   outfit was   designed.   And   I was just a dumb guy. I walked past with to to to to to to to. And about that time, my wife was standing over beside over on that side that I looked and all of a sudden I looked over there and she looked at me and went busted.   I was like,   yeah.  

[01:06:27] Rich Chelson:

Now I just said, damn, you're beautiful, honey.   I mean, you still would have been busted, but I  

[01:06:34] Bryan Goodwin:

just figured it was just better just to go ahead and pass up to the fact that, yeah, I was looking at the girl, that the stripper in the school girl girl outfit and, yep, just   bite the bite the bullet. So  

[01:06:46] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. The yeah. It is it is it is normally better to just admit it upfront than trying to hide it. You know?  

[01:06:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Bullshit.   I called bullshit.   Oh, no. No.   So  

[01:07:02] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, I I   I I know what you're talking about. Hey. There's a title.  

[01:07:08] Rich Chelson:

Bullshit.   I call bullshit.  

[01:07:10] Duuude-Ron :

There you go.  

[01:07:13] Rich Chelson:

I like that.  

[01:07:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Well,   except for the fact that there is an ex split of in there.   And,   some of   the, some of the the We'll spell it wrong.  

[01:07:26] Rich Chelson:

Put it put a freaking asterisk. Bacon sandwich.   B s No. You know, this is what this is this is what irks the shit out of me.   And, yes, I'm gonna use an expletive   or 2   is is is a fact that that that we have to   worry about   how we spell our titles and shit. I I give 2 shits.  

[01:07:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, you in all reality, you don't.   Unless   but at the same time, you do you have to weigh out your options. Right?  

[01:08:00] Rich Chelson:

Okay. What options?  

[01:08:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, what are our options? Displayed in Apple podcast directory,   or you can choose to not be, displayed.   You Who's the number 1 who's the number 1 directory that most people find   their, their,   their   podcasts in.  

[01:08:17] Duuude-Ron :

Go ahead and click.  

[01:08:19] Rich Chelson:

You mean to say that that apple will   kick your episode out if it has cuss words in it?  

[01:08:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No, it, they can kick your, like 1,   they can drop your podcast   if your, if your title   has expletives in it.  

[01:08:38] Rich Chelson:

Yes.   Really?  

[01:08:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Now they can also drop it if you happen to have your podcast marked as clean and you're cussing a lot.  

[01:08:47] Rich Chelson:

They'll drop you for that also. Oh, I see. That's why that's why I mark everyone.   No. This is not clean. Well yeah. And the the only most of them are. And, I mean, we don't we don't cuss that bad, but still, I I I I I know 1 of us, 1 of us 3 is gonna say at least 1 cuss word Yeah. We're gonna every week. From the phone. Say big green donkey dick somewhere along the way. So there we go. We got it out of the way. So  

[01:09:15] Duuude-Ron :

why why is it gotta be green?  

[01:09:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Peach. Why is it gotta be green? Purple is purple is just a weird fucking color, man.   Oh.  

[01:09:25] Rich Chelson:

And and, dude, and, dude, that's coming from a navy guy.   I couldn't pass that 1 up, man. That was that was perfect. But no. But also but the ramification  

[01:09:37] Bryan Goodwin:

of us being   a being a,   being a a   a show that has   cuss words in it. And with that, we marked ourselves   as having,   oh, crap. I keep wanting to say dirty words. He said a dirty word. He said a dirty what? I can't think of what the, anyhow, the settings Expletives.   Expletives.   Because we have our settings   set to dirty word mode   there we go. There's there's the show title, dirty word mode.   That was the thing. Actually not going we're going to have very few, if any   India   listeners,   because apple   blocks   by request of India,   apple blocks   any podcast that has even 1 episode   marked as expletive.  



[01:10:39] Rich Chelson:

Now, you know, them fuckers over in India cuss, just like we do. Oh, yeah. And I've got a, I've got a ringtone  

[01:10:46] Bryan Goodwin:

of the 1 of the the 2 it's actually from a road rage incident   where where 2 Indian dudes get together and you bloody bloody you bloody bastard butter bloody bastard bastard. Bloody you you blood bloody you bastard. Buster bastard black. Bloody bloody man. You bloody man. You know? And they're just going at each other, and I've got that as a as a as a ringtone just because it cracks me up every time because   Right. It's fun.  

[01:11:15] Rich Chelson:

But still, you see you see, I I don't I don't freaking,   I don't know this. So so, apple apple is liberal.  

[01:11:25] Bryan Goodwin:

What   side of the coast, what side of the world are they on? They're on the west coast. So yeah.  

[01:11:31] Rich Chelson:

I I mean, I I I mean, I was I was kinda hoping   They would have some sort  

[01:11:36] Duuude-Ron :

of burn. No. No. No. No. Okay.   They are At least they are very beholden to  

[01:11:43] Bryan Goodwin:

to,   making sure Well quote unquote, I am safe.   So  

[01:11:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I see. Yeah. Woke.  

[01:11:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, and that's what it is. I mean and a lot of people are starting to realize   exactly   how Horrible.   The whole concept of brand safe   is.  

[01:12:08] Rich Chelson:

Okay. That's fine.   But are they gonna do anything about  

[01:12:12] Bryan Goodwin:

it? Well, yeah, that's a lot of companies   actually will turn to these brand.   I was trying to say brand safe,   evaluators.   I think it's You know, there's so funny. You you know, this brand shield. Yeah. Brand shield is 1, things like that. But what it is is they actually will go out and sadly they,   they take shortcuts.   So what is considered quote unquote brand safe   is   varies tremendously.   I mean, I know we're not brand safe. I mean, we are not, we're gonna say everything that's,   that's going to make our ASG scores are probably in the negatives right now. And that's just fine. I I like excelling my carbon dioxide,   and I like having a car that belches out carbon   of any type because I am carbon. I'm primarily made of carbon, and every living thing on the earth is made of carbon. And I love carbon, and I celebrate the fact that we have carbon. And I'm glad the more carbon that we have in the air means that we're gonna have more plants and more trees, and our earth is actually going to be greener. Thanks to all the carbon dioxide in the air. Oh my god, dude. You're gonna get canceled. Oh, god. Please. Cancel my ass. I will fart in your face. Alright. I will give you all my methanie, man. You're not a cow. You're safe. You can fart. Cows can't. No. They   not have been around me after Taco Bell night. Yeah. Thank god.  



[01:13:47] Rich Chelson:

Thank freaking god. I like I like breathing, dude.   I mean, it's bad enough I've got a CPAP machine at night.  

[01:13:56] Duuude-Ron :

So, Brian,   you are 1 of those that they have on the the TikTok that,   here's a Taco Bell commercial, and their butt is where the, blowout is for,   the sewer system.  

[01:14:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:14:14] Rich Chelson:

I don't think that's a visual I needed, but I don't think.   Yeah. For for everyone on the audio side of the podcast, thank God you didn't get to see that visual.   Yeah. Sometimes sometimes I forget when we're doing these that that   we have to explain some of the things   for the audio side. You know? I'd totally space them.  

[01:14:39] Bryan Goodwin:

So your friends,  

[01:14:40] Rich Chelson:

not what it is. It's not evaluator. It's auditors. But see but see, that's the thing. You know? You know, back in when when we was growing up   in the thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, I mean, we never had to worry about that. So so why are we catering   to the few percent or the few   minuscule of a percent   that are bitching about it.  

[01:15:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Because   The squeakiest wheel or the squeakiest wheel gets the most grease. Well, it there is that. But the big part the big dish issue is, 1, it actually doesn't affect us. This is why we get ridicule   and mock   and talk   shit about it. Well, no. I know. But but the thing is We are not brand brand safe, but the problem that the issue is is the 1 reason why we have gone to podcasting   advertisement.   And if you're,   go watch any type any,   any YouTube video these days.   They're not going to say porn   even if they're talking about something that is newsworthy and porn. They're not gonna say porn.   You'll hear them say corn   or or something very similar to it. They won't even say adult entertainment   because that's too close to to Oh my god. Afraid that advertisers   won't will won't pay them,   will run away from. So they are afraid they're gonna lose their advertisers.  

That's why podcasting 2.0 and value for value allows you to actually be truly   uncensored.  

[01:16:23] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. But but okay. Hang on. Hang on. Back in the sixties seventies at the height of of advertising,   how did we get away with all the innuendos and sexual connotations? That's the that's how they did it, was with the innuendos.  

[01:16:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Back then, you couldn't even talk about a you saw who was it? I think it was in the Dick Van Dyke show when Mary Tyler Moore was pregnant.   Yeah. We actually never saw her pregnant.   Or no. No. It was Lucille Ball.   You never saw Lucille Ball actually pregnant because   you couldn't even mention it was considered rude, and it was considered very,   uncouth to talk about a woman being pregnant. Why? Because how did she get pregnant in the first place?   That's also the reason why Ricky and Lucy never slept in the same bed.   Well, a lot of people didn't at in that time. No. No. No. A lot of people did. Some, from what they say. Television shows, they didn't.  

Because the censors   of the the television shows, the the morality   police on the on the television shows wouldn't allow. Okay. Well, then people who actually were out actually old slept in the same bed,   oddly enough,   was Herman and Lily Munster.  

[01:17:45] Rich Chelson:

Okay. But okay.   The Brady   slept   What's that, dude?   The Brady slept in the same bed. Yeah. But but the monsters were actually before the Brady Bunch. But seems Oh, yeah. That's true. Thing is though, but but you know, once you hit the late sixties and then the seventies,   that all kinda   started going away.  

[01:18:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Seventies, yeah. It started to started drift away. And I mean, you had a lot of a lot of fairly   risque jokes. I mean, even in the old days, you had very risky jokes. I mean, Groucho Marx   famously   got   into a lot of trouble once because he was, I forget what his name of his show was. It's,   he had a kind of a game show type thing that he did for a while. Smothers? No. It's not Smothers Brothers. No. It's not Smothers Brothers. It's Gratow Marks. Because,   he   actually he brought a he brought what was walked up to 1 of the ladies. It's almost like,   win, lose, or draw. Or the 1 where you pick the 3 doors. I can't remember which 1 that 1 is. But anyhow, it's something along those lines where he would walk up and he would walk around the audience and he would do things with the audience.  



[01:18:56] Rich Chelson:

And he your life.  

[01:18:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Something like that, probably.   Yeah. And he would he would pull he started talking to this 1 lady and she was talking about how she had something like 6, 7 kids.   And she was pregnant still.   And,   and   he's like, wow. You must be really tired. And she was like, yeah. Yeah. He's like,   well, I really love my husband. And he said, well, I really love my cigar, but I take it out from time to time.   And he got he he got in a lot of trouble for that. I mean, that's a that was a serious, oh, 0, top I mean, everybody laughed because they, you know, it was a bunch of adults and so they're like, oh. I mean, I mean, I mean, good for that. Okay.  

[01:19:36] Rich Chelson:

You   you cannot   laugh.   I'm sorry. You can't. I mean,  

[01:19:44] Bryan Goodwin:

I love my cigar, but I take it out from time to time, you know, every once in a while. You know? And so my god.   And, yeah, he got he got, taken off the air for that.   But and so, I mean, cancel late canceling doesn't always is not a new thing in society. It's just Well, no. But right that it's happening. And because but   yes.   Podcasting   is 1 of those great mediums because we have taken   the gatekeeper   of media.   And we gave him 2 great big old middle fingers and said, fuck you, dude. I'm doing it my way. You don't like it, that's fine. You don't have to listen to it. Right. Right. And it went well   until the advertisers   came in.  

Because we were able to do advertising beforehand. We did advertising. You could go up to somebody,   look in say you're in,   you're in Walla Walla, Washington, and so you wanted to do Walla Walla Washington washing,   washing machines.   And you could go to the guy who made Walla Walla Washington washing machines, and that's a lot of w's. Golly. Well, that is. That's up. I'm in. But anyhow   and say, I wanna I want I've got a I've got a show that I love talking about washing machines, and I think my audience would be perfect for you. And you could talk to them 1 on 1 and set up a deal that way. And a lot of the early podcasters who did advertising   did just that. Right. And all of a sudden, it within and it what it wasn't even a recent thing. There, Earwolf   was a programmatic   advertising system   where they could do pre roll, they could do mid roll, they could do post roll. Right.  

And they ended up selling out selling out and being bought by somebody. I think they somebody and then somebody bought them and then Lipson bought them. I think that's how that ran.   But even then, you could tell that programmatic ads   sucked.   Because, what, they don't have anything to do with you. There's nothing worse than listening to your favorite podcast host and then all of a sudden here comes a McDonald's commercial. And you're like going,   god, man, a a McDonald's commercial? Come on, man. We used we're we're We're a Tampax commercial. Or a Tampax or well, it's funny. My wife, she watches Hulu. And so and we don't have to add free Hulu. She watches the advertisement Hulu,   which is a lot cheaper. It's like $7 or something like that for ads. So you can watch and watch a show with that.  



[01:22:22] Rich Chelson:

For $7.   For $7. You know, I hey. No judgment here. No judgment.  

[01:22:27] Bryan Goodwin:

But any some of the ads on there   are just mind blowing. We got 1 that's for it's   4   for a guy who has a, who has what's called bit nail syndrome.   All right.   And that's when, when their pecker isn't straight up and down,   it curves off real sharp off to the left or off to the right or down or up. And, you know, it's tough.  

[01:22:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's Peyronie's disease.  

[01:22:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Peyronie's   disease.   Peyronie's   disease. Not prions. Pions are   are protein in your brain.  

[01:23:04] Duuude-Ron :

But Priones  

[01:23:06] Bryan Goodwin:

disease. Yeah. I think it's something like that. Yeah.   But any so they've got a they they have a ad, but it's a bit carrot.   And so they it's all these carrots are around, and they're all cranked off on the end of fucked up directions.   And I'm looking at my wife going, what in the hell? And this should do after that, it'll come up and there'll be something about women's hoo hoo hoo. And and it's just like,   oh my god. Jana, what are you looking at online? And she's like, I don't know. I'm not looking at anything because She doesn't go online very much. She plays she plays her little games, and that's all it does. And so it's just running through guessing. It's like, well, maybe we can get her with   with with dicks. No? No? Okay. Well, let's try Cooters. Let's maybe she's interested in Cooters. Nothing. Nothing.  

Let's sort of you know?   And so they keep trying some of the most fucked up stuff. And this and It's crazy. Yeah. And it's but it's the same way with, with everything else. I mean, with with your   programmatic ads.   It's like, come on, man. I mean, yeah. I get tired of   Joe Rogan, the swine. Don't watch Joe Rogan. I get tired of the   10 minutes   of ads that were on at the first of this show. Yeah. And then every 10 minutes, he would do 2 more freaking ads.  

[01:24:22] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:24:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Through 3 hours worth of show.  

[01:24:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, the thing is, though, is that was in his contract with Spotify that that he had to do that. And see, that's that's why was him doing the ad reads instead of going, and now and I I work for my sponsor. I'm, you know, going off listening to something about food. Well, well, see, that's the thing. Ad reads, I can I can stomach ad reads by the host better   than I can   just a straight up ad? Oh, yeah. You know? Oh, I can too.  

[01:24:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Until that host goes off and records his ad read. And then he just takes that ad read and puts it in every single, every single episode. So you hear the,   Hey, do you have dirty underwear?   Hey, do you have dirty underwear?   Hey, do you have dirty underwear? It's like, God dang, man. Come on.   Just put a little extra put a little thought into it. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. You've checked off all the boxes. I could tell when you do that. You're almost I can almost hear the check mark going.  

[01:25:22] Rich Chelson:

Well, that was   we'll see. That's why that's why,   you know, if I hear that in a podcast, I don't care what the content is. Guess what? I'm not going to listen. Oh, no. I'll fast forward. Especially if I go, I go click.   I go find another podcast. That's 1 of the glories of,  

[01:25:39] Bryan Goodwin:

thing ads,   or podcasts,   platforms like,   overcast,   podcast guru   and cast O Matic.   You can actually, at the beginning of the show,   if you know, they put 2 minutes worth of ads in there, you could actually automatically make it skip 2 minutes worth of the show.   It's very   whew. It's off. It's over on the starting there and right around that area, you'll catch it. I had a,   I love the show. Love the guy who does it, but for whatever reason, he likes to play the whole damn song   of of a,   of a 1 particular artist. This 1 particular song,   and it thinks everything's wonderful or something like that. And because it's, it's off virtual couch. It's Tony Oberbay.  

Love it. Love his content. It's just at the end, there is 4 and a half minutes worth of music.   And it's not my I mean, the first few times, you're just like, okay. That's kinda cool. And then you're like,   goddamn. When is this thing gonna fade out?   Are you kidding me? And I'd look at it and be like, still got 3 minutes worth of freaking   okay. No. We're scrubbing. And I for   probably,   you know, 3, 4,   4 or 5 months or not months, weeks worth of listening to it. 1st, I was like, oh, son of a bitch. Okay. He's doing this. And so I I got around where I was alright. We're firing up,   firing up   the, the app. And at the end, as forward,   where you cut off the last 4 and a half minutes worth of, of a podcast.  

Yeah. See that's where sometimes I catch the end of it. He won't play   all of it, but he'll play, like, 3 minutes worth. And so he'd be in the middle of of his closing dialogue.   Nothing. So  

[01:27:26] Rich Chelson:

like Well, no. We'll we'll see. You see, that's the thing though. You know, if it's,   I mean, I'll just I'll just find other podcasts. I won't I won't I won't work that hard because there there are so many podcasts out there   in in all different,   genres of,   you know,   topics except for roller skating,  

[01:27:48] Bryan Goodwin:

dude. Yeah. I mean, somebody I I I think Someone someone really needs to talk to me. If they they that likes roller skating. It's very fun as roller skating. You know? And I bet you, if he was to ask to find the right person, he could probably even get,   get popcorn to be his title song.   I I bet you have the record label.  

[01:28:15] Duuude-Ron :

You know what? I love popcorn.   You know, who what's the name of the group   that made   popcorn?  

[01:28:29] Rich Chelson:

We've looked it up, but it's been so long ago. I can't remember.  

[01:28:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Hot butter.  

[01:28:35] Duuude-Ron :

Hot butter.  

[01:28:36] Rich Chelson:

Really? Hot butter?  

[01:28:38] Duuude-Ron :

Hot butter is the name of the group that made popcorn.   See, dude. You can And here's another thing with popcorn.   Mhmm. When I was   in 5th grade,   4th grade,   we had that song   as our song for   when you do when you're in school, you do an act. What the hell is that called?   No. What? Shit. A play?   No. Not a play. It's where a whole you know, different people, they have different acts or different whatever.   Variety show. Talent contest.   Not a variety show. Fuckin' a   what the hell was the name of that? I guess it's not a talent show.   Talent show. Yes. Talent show.  

Talent   show. Yes. Talent show. That is correct.   I know. You said it. Thank you very much.   Anyway,   that was we were doing   wax paper   over combs   and to get that humming noise.  

[01:29:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[01:29:54] Duuude-Ron :

There was 5 of us   with a wax paper comb combs   singing to   popcorn.   I will   that is the 1 thing in my life that I will never   forget is that talent show.  

[01:30:11] Rich Chelson:

That's funny.  

[01:30:13] Duuude-Ron :

And, yeah, it was and I got that on my my,   what the hell is that channel?   Hold on just a second.   My YouTube music?   Oh, yeah. I got 3 different,   I got 3 different variances   of popcorn.   Do you know that they have a,   or   synthesizer   version of popcorn?  

[01:30:48] Rich Chelson:

I'm sure. Yeah. Did not know that. It  

[01:30:51] Duuude-Ron :

it is badass. You need to look up on YouTube   popcorn, and there are several different variances, but there is 1 that is   a synthesizer   that is a good fucking   rendition of popcorn.   Yep.  

[01:31:09] Rich Chelson:

I see that's the thing, you know, check   check with   the band, Hot Butter, and see if you could use it. You could use that as your intro and your outro for your podcast, man.  

[01:31:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's   you try now trying to find them,   that's a different story.   Gotta remember, we we used that song in in 5th grade,   and I'm 55.   Yeah. But, yeah, that's all for you to call.  

[01:31:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Just to let you know, I was looking it up, and I came I was looking around, and the original   popcorn   song was actually   written and released in 1969   by Gershon Kingsley   for the album Music TO Moog by.   Music TO Moog? Moog, m o 0 g, Moog.  

[01:32:04] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:32:05] Bryan Goodwin:

No. We're not we're all we all know from 72 when, when it was,   in 72, a rearranged version of the instrumental was recorded by the Kingsley's First Moog Quartet, which was intended,   for the namesake album 1st Moog Quartet, which was,   had been otherwise rereleased   in 1970. So, apparently, I guess it didn't take off in 69, so they tried it again in 70. And then in 72,   the instrumental had a current title popcorn. In the same year, Stand Free, a fellow member of the 1st Mood Quartet rerecorded the another instrumental burst, on the 72 version with his own band, Hot Butter.   So so people kept trying. It's like, oh, no. This is a good song. Let's try it. Oh, shit. Didn't work.  

It's been 2 years. Let's try it again. Oh, damn it. Didn't work.   Let's try it again. Oh, okay. Yeah.   That's it. Yeah. It's almost like shove like trying to jump start a car. It's like   nope. Keep going. Keep going. Pop the clutch. Crunch. Crunch. Crunch.   No. No. Okay. Keep going. Keep going. Pop again.   I'm finally good.  

[01:33:17] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I I I Okay. So talking so talking about songs that have been remade by various,   bands,   You guys know the song Personal Jesus   by  

[01:33:30] Rich Chelson:

Depeche Mode. Oh, yes. No. Never heard it.  

[01:33:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Where is that?  

[01:33:35] Rich Chelson:

What? Really. Never heard it.  

[01:33:38] Duuude-Ron :

Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode. Look it up. Okay. You'll like. You'll like that song. There's You know how many people you know   how many people sung it before Depeche Mode?   Nope.  

[01:33:53] Bryan Goodwin:

9. Oh,   what?  

[01:33:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And Johnny Cash   was 1 of those 9.  

[01:34:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it was covered by Johnny Cash in 2002.   Marilyn Manson did in 2004,   Def Leppard bid did it in 2018, Iggy Pop, and   Phoebe Lunny Looney   in 2023.   But, yeah, it started out it started out as, Depeche Mode was the original,   was the original creator in   2009.  

[01:34:29] Duuude-Ron :

No. It wasn't.   Is that what it says, that the Depeche Mode was the original creator of that?  

[01:34:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Let's see here.   The background of the composition. Depachevo  

[01:34:43] Duuude-Ron :

took it from somebody else.  

[01:34:48] Bryan Goodwin:

K. See, the background of the composition in 8 in 9 mid 1989, band began recording   in Milan with the rec record producer   Flood.   The results of this session was a single personal was the single personal Jesus, which featured featured a catchy bluesy rift   and a drum based sound,   radically different from anything the band had released   so far.   Although not the 1st Depeche Mode song to feature guitar parts behind the wheel and the cover of Route 66 featured,   guitar   loving itself and then from construction time again, and here is the house from Black Celebration featured an acoustic guitar. It was the first time a guitar was used as a dominant instrument in any dash Depeche Mode song.   So, yeah,   Depeche Mode was the first 1 to actually write   the song   because then, in 2004, Personal Jesus was ranked at 360   8 in Rolling Stone's list of 500 greatest songs of all time.  

And in September of 2006, it was voted as 1 of the 100 greatest songs ever in q magazine. Personal Jesus was released as a single   on 30th May 2011 for the Depeche Mode remix, remixes,   281 through 11,   with the leading remix by the production team, Stargate. The song has been covered by numerous artists, including Johnny Cash, Marilyn Manson, lep   Def Leppard, Iggy Pop.   See here. Promotions   to to critical reception impact and legacy.  

[01:36:28] Duuude-Ron :

Saying is And I like and I like Marilyn Manson's version.  

[01:36:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. It's not a horrendous. It's not a bad 1. I've,   it I'm very   there's,   I mean, I liked early Marilyn Manson stuff.  

[01:36:44] Duuude-Ron :

You know I like his from his Yeah. Children.   Yeah. There's a couple of songs I like of Marilyn Manson, but the 3 that I like most are the ones that he did   that he remade.   Yeah. Purple Jesus being 1.   Sweet Dreams Friday, another 1? Sweet Dreams. Yep. And then there was another 1 from another eighties band that he did a remake of, but I don't remember the name of the song off the top of my head.  

[01:37:20] Bryan Goodwin:

See, the   track listings. Yeah.   So but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's   weekly charts.   Denmark, it made up to made it up to 8.   No. You, UK Rock and Metal was, made it to number 2.   So and that was when   weekly charts, year end charts.   So  

[01:37:50] Duuude-Ron :

so what you're doing what what eventually   or so what the overall aspect was is   you want me to make a podcast,   roller skating.  

[01:38:00] Rich Chelson:

I still think we wanna. Yeah. Dude, we've only been talking about it, what, 6, 8 months now? Hell yeah, dude. Heard that. We've been for a couple years.  

[01:38:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Something like that.  

[01:38:14] Rich Chelson:

Dude, you would do   you would do good at that.  

[01:38:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Find the old, roller skating stars, Start talking to all the all the, old roller derby girls.  

[01:38:28] Rich Chelson:

Go around and get friends.  

[01:38:32] Duuude-Ron :

Bring up the movie Xanadu.  

[01:38:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Xanadu? Good god, Xanadu.   I I thought you were gonna mention, like, roller babies or something. So or solar babies. That's not what it is.  

[01:38:46] Rich Chelson:

You could go to different roller skating rinks and interview them?  

[01:38:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   I mean,  

[01:39:00] Rich Chelson:

a lot of things you could do, and believe me, I I I bet you   word spreads like wildfire, you'd wind up with quite a few people listening.  

[01:39:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Or even oh, here you go. Yeah. There then there's the, the ever popular   and insanely   great romantic comedy   roller boogie   From 1979?  

[01:39:24] Rich Chelson:

I I was I I by the title, I was thinking it was mid to late seventies.  

[01:39:30] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm getting   let's see here. Where's the,   cast? Who's all in here?   Oh, Linda Blair was in it.  

[01:39:39] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[01:39:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Like Terry Berkeley.   And Jim Bray was Bobby James.   Beverly Garland played Lillian Barclay, and Kimberly Beck, Lana.   Albert Encinia   was Gordo.   Sean McClory   was Jammer Delaney.   Let's see here. Stoney Jackson, MG Kelly.   And that's not the machine gun Kelly that everyone thinks that we're talking about. Right. Axle Rod, Roger Perry, James Van Patten, and Mark Goddard.  

[01:40:12] Rich Chelson:

That's that, that sounds like the,   top 10 of of of the B listers.  

[01:40:19] Bryan Goodwin:

I was gonna say, man, that that will take the cheese needle and snap it off.   Right.  

[01:40:28] Rich Chelson:

I mean, yeah. I, yeah, I'd never heard of that movie either.  

[01:40:34] Bryan Goodwin:

I love 1 of the best things about IMDB is their trivia sections for all the different, movies. Linda Blair actually had 2 stunt doubles. She also did some of the skating, developed bursitis in her hip.   Look like look like you're having fun. I'm tired.  

[01:40:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I guess, yeah, no big time soon.   Right.  

[01:41:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Movie is also listed among the,   100 most enjoyable bad movies ever made in golden raspberry award founder John Wilson's book, the official Razzies movie guide.  

[01:41:15] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   You lost me. Well, what was all that? Okay.   Simplify.  

[01:41:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The movie is listed   as about the 100 most enjoyably   bad movies   ever made. Okay.   And and these and it's actually listed in the official Razzie movie guide.   So the Razzies are the, the bad movie awards. So kinda like the Oscars, but   but  

[01:41:46] Rich Chelson:

But the Razzies.  

[01:41:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Razzies. Razzies.   Yeah.  

[01:41:52] Rich Chelson:

I can't do that no more.   I used to could, but I can't do it no more.  

[01:41:57] Bryan Goodwin:

And as soon as the principal photography ended, Linda Blair actually had to fly to Florida to appear in court following her arrest for cocaine possession.   Nice.   What? They had cocaine   in the seventies?   No.  

[01:42:16] Rich Chelson:

God.   That was that was when they had, like like, the good drugs back then. Oh, yeah. They  

[01:42:23] Bryan Goodwin:

straight up light your ass up for days. Right.  

[01:42:28] Rich Chelson:

Do some shrooms, man. You was   like flying high for a while.  

[01:42:34] Bryan Goodwin:

The only thing, the only thing I've ever heard is that no today's today's pot is   way stronger than anything they had back then. Oh, I believe that because Oh, yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I remember your story.   Oh, yeah. I'm Let's try an animal.   Who knew?  

[01:42:52] Rich Chelson:

No. I'm good. I'm good. Damn near had a fight with a frozen pizza before it got done cooking. I was so pissed off.  

[01:43:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Damn pizza was harsh in his middle Oaks.  

[01:43:04] Rich Chelson:

Right? He was like, motherfucker, you supposed to be cooking.   But but, yeah, I was I was I was I was in love with the pizza after it got cooked, and I had started eating it. I fell in love with it. So, you know, it it it all balanced out.  

[01:43:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. All week goes out in the end. So   yeah. I mean, it's like the time   I mean,   I've never been a big pothead.   And   I actually, I didn't never have my first smoke my first joint until after I was 21.   And my god. Yeah. Yeah. I can't say that. I was a square. I'll admit it. I was I was a square. I'd I'd tried alcohol,   but just it didn't do anything for me in high school. It just wasn't wasn't my jam. I I didn't care for it. I didn't do it.   So, and I guess it's just because I grew up with my mom.   She would always have alcohol.   Right. And, a lot of times, it it was white wine. And,   I'm used to   when I was a little kid, I was used to just walking. If I got thirsty, I'd walk up to to my stepmom's,   glass of water and just take a big drink of water and off I would go   and walk along and grab ahold of mom's wine, take a big old drink, and go, what?  

Get punched in the face   with like, what the hell was that? Son of a bitch. That's terrible.   She didn't touch mama's wife. I didn't after a while, I got around. I learned your smell. That's   right. But it also it's like my dad. My   I love the story of my dad. God bless him. He was 1 1 of the most amazing men. The world is a sadder place because he's not around anymore.   But my dad said when he, when him and mom first got married,   he was   he was out mowing the lawn. It was summertime or something like that. And he was out mowing lawn, working in the yard, and he was getting hot and thirsty. So he went inside and he looked around for something to drink, and there wasn't anything to drink. And he looked up and he saw some cooking or not some cooking wine, but some of mom's wine.   Mhmm. And he's like, oh, okay. I'm gonna have something to eat. Opens it up, takes a big old drink. Woah. Oh god. That was terrible. Horrible. He screws it back in, puts it back in the refrigerator, goes back to us all the way.  

And, he said he was out there. He went up and did a couple rows,   more of,   of of of lawn mowing. He's, you know, that wasn't half bad. And he goes back in there, takes another drink, big old swing. Oh, god. No. I don't know what I say. I know. Screw that. It goes back and he said, the time mom showed up, he was drunk. He'd gone through 2 bottles.  

[01:45:46] Duuude-Ron :

So was it cooking cherry?  

[01:45:48] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't think it was cooking cherry. It was, I think it was actually just white just like white wine in a bottle. But   because he said he kept putting it back in the refrigerator.   So   he's like, oh god. That's terrible. Horrible.  

[01:46:04] Rich Chelson:

You have to be careful. I should have sneak up on you.   I don't like to taste it myself, but it'll fuck you up pretty damn quick.  

[01:46:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, I'm, I mean, I'm not a big,   big, huge wine,   connoisseur or anything. I mean, I, I enjoy   I'll enjoy a,   a glass from time to time.  

[01:46:24] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. I mean You know, if I drink any, a $3 box does mean,  

[01:46:29] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. Oh, no. No. I'm fine. Just fine.  

[01:46:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   And I   and I've got Walmart.   Go ahead, dude.  

[01:46:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna go down here to the grocery store, and we're gonna get ourselves a box of wine for 4.99.  

[01:46:47] Bryan Goodwin:

There you go. And that's that's the fun thing that I'll I'll do if from time to time because,   over on my, over on my wife's   step parent the stepmom's side,   they're big wine drinkers, and they're all they're they're all kinda really frou froust and use new type of type of wine. I mean, you talk if you bring you bring,   try to have them fill up a red Dixie cup with with wine, they're, like, looking at you like, no.   You're not doing that. You use a proper glass for for the wine, you know, that type of thing. And it's like Oh my god. So I have fun. There's been a couple times where they're like,   we're gonna get together. We're gonna have some wine. I said, no. So I'll go and I'll grab some white Zinfandel a box of white Zinfandel, and I'll come walking in and say   and they'll look at me and go,   what? I was like,   it's okay. It's wine. You didn't say you wanted $80   bottle of wine. You just said   bring some wine. I did.  

And it's funny that by the time, by the end of the night, for some reason, the box is empty.  

[01:47:53] Rich Chelson:

Go figure.   The 4.99   box of wine is still empty. Still empty?  

[01:48:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because it went well with fish.  

[01:48:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Probably   not because I don't know what   what going well with fish actually even means, honestly. I'd Right. Nope, Brian. It pairs well with fish. Brian.  

[01:48:19] Rich Chelson:

Brian. Think about it.   Fish,   tuna.  

[01:48:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. And and it's not bad because there's also goes well with meat and beef, and there's some that goes well with pork.   So what? Supposed to just only there's,   the police are only supposed to have 1 particular type of,   1 type of wine?  

[01:48:41] Duuude-Ron :

And that's what I was gonna say.   Did they tell you to bring the correct wine for what they were eating that night?  

[01:48:48] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. They just said bring some wine. We're all gonna wine. Night, so bring some. And that's what it was. It wasn't for any particular,   for any particular meal. It was just, you know, everybody enjoys some bringing bring some wine, and I was like, I'm very pale, man. I'm gonna have fun with this and go ahead and just bring some, like I said, just bring a box of wine and   watch everyone go,   really?   It's like, yeah, really. It's it's cool. You'll you'll drink it.  

[01:49:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I brought like 3 bottles to year 1. So, you know? Exactly.  

[01:49:21] Bryan Goodwin:

And I save more money.   It's kinda like That's right.   What is it, Owen, the great outdoors   or Dan Aykroyd's character's trying to light light his, his cigarette lighter. It's like, I spent $50 on this thing, and I can't even get it to light. And then here comes John Candy, flicks a little bit because it's like a buck 23.   It's like,   doesn't matter what type you what you pay for. Did it do the job? Did it get you spoused?  

[01:49:49] Rich Chelson:

Right. Exactly.   Hey, Brian. We about ate out.  

[01:49:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. We are just about there. So let's go ahead. Let's get her all wrapped up. So, guys, I wanna say thank you all so very much. I better double check here real quick over with GetAlby   and see if did we get anybody saying anything to us, anything along them lines? Hit the dashboard, and the answer is no because the only last person that made any comment was a relaxed male with what's in there and her pickle. So, guys, if you would like to have be able to cut throw a comment out there,   please feel free to do so. Send a, send a message. You if you've got a podcasting,   app of choice or you don't have a podcasting app of choice, should I let me recommend a podcasting 2.0 app. That way, you can send booster grabs, send messages to us. We will actually go through, talk about them, share them out,   and and have a good time with it. We would love to hear from you, hear your insights, hear your thoughts, all thanks to being able to send over Boostramp. It doesn't matter what you want or how much you send. Just   just being able to have that conversation works out great. I sent out the magic, row of ducks, which was a 2222.  

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[01:53:16] Rich Chelson:

So with that How do they reach out to us?  

[01:53:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, they can reach out to us by, a, sending a boost to gram.   They can, they can also send us, they can also reach out to us through email, which is just by going to sending us an email at,   rchelson,   that's r   [email protected],   or circle cast. That's circle   cast as in, like, how goofy cast suspicion line. [email protected].   And both of those will get   get to us. And from there, if you have a question for, for Ron,   for the dude, you can send it on over to him. So we would love to be able to hear from you. We'd love to be able to, see what you had to say. Any insights, thoughts about what anything we've talked about, we'd love to hear from you. So there, we've got got all that. So I'm gonna say thanks again for everyone for listening. If you liked what you heard,   share this out. Share that with your friends. Share that on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and any place else that you are.  

And let them know, hey. There are these 3 weird dudes. There's 3 heads and 1 brain, and it's it's the weirdest example of, of that ever around. You've yeah. You've gotta listen to it to understand what's going on. So, guys, with that, I wanna say thanks again for listening.   Dude, what do you have to say?  

[01:54:34] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I was saying, pretty much the same thing that   I always end the show with, and that is   if you have a veteran   friend   that   youth   is   in need of   an ear to listen to or ear   so they can speak or a shoulder   that they can cry on.   You know, there's a lot of vets out there hurting   just because their overall   situations   with being in the military, being in combat,   PTSD,   There's,   entirely too many,   22 a day. Roughly, they commit suicide.   So that is 22   too many a day that we are losing a veteran. So if you know a veteran,   please reach out to them and ask them to see how they are doing.   And number 2,   something that you will not be able to get out of your head at least for the next   few moments anyway.  

Menomena.   Menomena.   Menomena.   And I was hold with that.   What you got for the crowd, Rich?  

[01:55:56] Rich Chelson:

Oh, dude. You're awesome, man. I love you, brother.   Oh my gosh.   Anyway, no. I just I just wanna thank everyone for listening.   And, if you've listened this far,   yes, I will give you the golf club. Wow.   Yeah. Because,   yes. Yeah. It's a long time. But, no, like like   like Brian said, you know, if you found any value,   you know, and, you know, wanna reach out and say, hey, you know,   if you think of a topic we should talk about, hey. Send it to us. We you know, we'll look at it. Probably,   we'll have an opinion on it. It is. So   and   and,   just, you know, wanna echo what what dude said. You know?  

Everyone knows a veteran. Reach out and just say, hey. How are you doing?   Sometimes that's all it takes.   And,   so yeah.   And send us an email, [email protected]   [email protected].   And, any questions for the dude,   send us an email, and we will make sure the dude gets it. And we will make sure he answers it too. So send them in. But other than that,   y'all have a happy 4th because we're doing this before 4th.   No. It's not going out till next Monday anyway. So either way, I mean,   happy 4th. Who cares?   And,  

[01:57:21] Bryan Goodwin:

have fun, and we'll talk to you next week. Alright, guys. Y'all take care. We'll see y'all next week. Till then. Bye.  

[01:57:28] Rich Chelson:

Later.  

[01:57:30] Duuude-Ron :

Have a great week.