Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets and the Dude! This week, Brian, Rich, and the Dude dive into a variety of topics, starting with the challenges of recording remotely and the ever-present road construction in Dallas. The conversation then shifts to the peculiar Edgar haircut and its cultural implications, leading to a broader discussion about societal norms and personal freedoms. The hosts also reminisce about the early days of the internet, paying tribute to the now-defunct ICQ messaging platform. The episode wraps up with a critical look at a Canadian cancer organization's controversial terminology change and a heartfelt plea to support veterans and first responders. Join us for a mix of humor, nostalgia, and thought-provoking discussions.

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[00:00:00] Rich Chelson:

I jopelinos, I eat,   you know, and,   and,   nana pickles.  

[00:00:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. L o n. Welcome to 2 grumpy bets and the dude. I'm your host, Brian, and I wanna say thank you very much for listening. We are here yet again. We're not gonna be live this time because, well, you know, we just,   Rich, the, the the stream master is not at the, not at his house, so we are we are still short a bit on, on our,   on our bandwidth. So we're gonna be doing this the old fashioned recorded way, but that's just fine because we've got a whole lot of good stuff to be talking about, and we're gonna have some,   wild discussions. And, we're also gonna play everybody's favorite   play at home game of where's Rich. But before we even get to there,   dude, what have you been up to? Dude. Well, dude has been  

[00:00:56] Duuude-Ron :

pretty busy at work, getting a lot of miles   up this week. And,   yeah, I had to go up to Dallas area today and play in that traffic, which is always a lot of fun because   they're all yeah. You know what? I don't think,   you know, even when we hit in the calendar year of 3,000,   there will still be road construction in Dallas,   someplace.   Oh, well Major Let me go. Major road construction on a major highway in Dallas   in the year   3,000.   They will not have finished it yet.  

[00:01:33] Bryan Goodwin:

No. Well, I 35,   I remember   whenever I was little   in the, in the early to mid eighties.   I 35   from the time that I 35 west and east joined up, at least down to to, to Hillsborough,   there was always some type of of construction going on there. They were widening something.   Yep. And I don't know if it just if it took them so long that the widening   and all the rain and stuff caused the widening to shrink some. And so they had to go back and rewiden it or what, but   they were they've always been. And I think this area is still under construction right now.  

[00:02:13] Duuude-Ron :

It is. It is again under well, I'll put it to you like this.   When it splits at Hillsborough, you got east and you got west. Right? Right. Right.   West takes you up to Dallas.   No. East takes you up to Dallas.   West takes you up to Right. Fort Worth. Fort Worth. Okay.   You know, Fort Worth from the basically, the lower city limits of when you get past the,   the Miller, the the beer factory.  

[00:02:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's still under still striking. They've been striking this   all spring.  

[00:02:48] Duuude-Ron :

And you know what? I have not even driven that side when I go up there because the construction on 30 right now   at the 820 split,   oh my god. That is a freaking   nightmare.   So I just go up at Dallas Way and then come up to,   36 to go up into Grand Prairie.   So I'd I'm not even traveling that side. But, anyway,   on   the east side,   they had all that built   and got a 3 lane   I mean, it's 3 lane all the way down   to   well, shit. It's 3 way all the way down to San Antonio.   But   they finished the 3 lane on the east side from Hillsboro   to the southern part of,   yeah, Dallas   area.  

Right. But, anyway,   so they finished all that up, and they now they're starting to tear it back up because   of   I don't know. I don't know why. It's I don't I don't know. Damn people.  

[00:03:54] Bryan Goodwin:

There are now. Now. All the freaking Californians have moved in.  

[00:03:58] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And here was the original plan for this and this is just hearsay from what I've heard.   They made a budget to do a 3 the the Central Texas corridors,   what they call it, 35   from San Antonio   to Dallas   to make it a 3 lane, make it a minimum of a 3 lane   all the way. Right?   They've done that.   Now guess what they're gonna do? Or they're gonna do to a 6 lane.  

[00:04:26] Bryan Goodwin:

A 4 lane. Four lane. Yeah. I don't I don't see why they just go don't go on ahead and do, like, what they have in Houston where they have it's it's like a a 6 lane   6 or 8   lane. So 16 it might even be a 12 lane. It's something stupid. It's like it's like a half mile wide.  

[00:04:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. But, you know,  

[00:04:48] Rich Chelson:

why didn't they They need to do something like that.  

[00:04:50] Duuude-Ron :

Well and why didn't they do a 4 lane   originally? Well, because   they knew the construction companies knew that it was gonna be 2 different   projects   to bid on.   So now   we have bumper to bumper traffic   at I 14, which is goes to,   Fort Hood because I'm never gonna call it what's currently being called. It'll always be Fort Hood to me.   As soon as you get that   now. Cabassos.  

[00:05:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Cabassos.   Yeah. That makes freaking sense. Yeah. We ain't Trying to get the army guys to spell Cabassos.   I mean, come on. Good was was challenging enough.  

[00:05:36] Duuude-Ron :

Well and who they and, you know,   we ain't even gonna go there. Just like Fort Bragg is now   Fort Bragg is now Fort Liberty.  

[00:05:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:05:47] Duuude-Ron :

Okay? Yeah. But So okay. But Hey. But, anyway   yeah.  

[00:05:53] Rich Chelson:

Let let me ask you this.   If if they're planning to go 4 lanes, what the hell are they gonna do through Austin?   You can't widen Austin.  

[00:06:01] Duuude-Ron :

You know what?  

[00:06:03] Bryan Goodwin:

It'll stay it'll stay just a two lane highway.  

[00:06:08] Duuude-Ron :

I would not   I would   not put it past them   to   you know, where a part of it going into the city on the south, no, on the north side of the city right by the, by the capitol building. Yeah.   Right. That has the upper deck.  

[00:06:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. I bet they probably add a couple more decks to it. Good point. I I guarantee you, they're gonna put that deck  

[00:06:34] Duuude-Ron :

If they do something like that in Austin, that's the only thing   that they can do Yes. They can do. Make an upper deck   that has Upper deck. No   that has no exits,   anything.   It is a total   through Expressway. Austin. Expressway.   You know?   Yeah. It could be a mistake. Is  

[00:06:55] Rich Chelson:

mad. You can't go wide no more.  

[00:06:57] Duuude-Ron :

You know? No. You can't. They're mad. You know. No. Yeah. Their their max going through downtown. The only thing they can do is go up. Up. That Yeah. Gary.   And so now   we already   have all the traffic   from going through Belton   and   halfway through Temple,   going southbound because everybody wants to get on I 14   to head towards Killeen,   so that just makes   traffic stop. And it it's   but, anyway,   we regress.   Now they wanna widen that   to at least a 4 lane   through Belton   on on 35.   Oh, good. The so we fucking have more construction.   They'll shut it down to a one lane.  

Yeah. That's all we need. Right. Oh, yeah. You know?  

[00:07:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They should I mean, that's the reason why Hamilton's traffic has gotten absolutely insane. It's because everyone now knows,   don't do I 35. Go down to Hamilton, to Lampasas,   down that direction.  

[00:08:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But but that's the thing. You know? I mean, doing the 4 lanes,   as soon as it opens, it's gonna be full. That 4th lane is gonna be full. They need to Hell, yeah.  

[00:08:14] Bryan Goodwin:

6 will Well, the 6 lanes will still be full.  

[00:08:16] Rich Chelson:

I mean, they've got enough traffic. Well, no. That's true, but but not as full. You'll you'll  

[00:08:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You'll have a couple car and a half link going.  

[00:08:27] Rich Chelson:

Baby. Okay. Hey. In Texas,   that's a lot of freaking room.  

[00:08:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Especially on the on those highways. Yeah. So  

[00:08:35] Duuude-Ron :

That's crazy. Well, you know what? My truck my truck is still governed at 65, so it speed is not my concern.   No. Because I will have the pedal to the metal and the thing to the floor   and do 65.   Unless I'm going down a hill and   I hit 68,   I better not hit 69 because then I did get docked 15 points on my weekly report card.   As soon as I hit as soon as I hit 69, I lose 15 points.   And my my weekly report card since I've been driving   has never been below 98.  

[00:09:17] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's cool.  

[00:09:18] Bryan Goodwin:

That's crazy. John Spartan, you've been deducted 15 merit demerits personally.  

[00:09:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. For this   of the speaking   aspect.  

[00:09:32] Bryan Goodwin:

So   alright. Well and, Rich, what have you been up to?  

[00:09:36] Rich Chelson:

Well, as y'all know, last week, I was, south of Little Rock in a hotel.   And the night,   while I'm sitting in a tent tonight   on a campground in Oklahoma   having a party. Well,  

[00:09:50] Bryan Goodwin:

basically With about 500 of your closest friends.  

[00:09:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Pretty much. Pretty much. We're we're playing music for the Southern American rally here in Kay River Campground in Moyers, Oklahoma,   and,   and music got quiet again.   But,  

[00:10:09] Duuude-Ron :

somebody somebody tripped the somebody tripped the breaker.  

[00:10:12] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yep. I hope not. Either way either way and see the thing is, we're not even really supposed to play tonight. So so this is kind of a test because tomorrow night Saturday night is when everything kicks off.   And that's that's when we need our shit   on point.  

[00:10:29] Bryan Goodwin:

On point.  

[00:10:30] Rich Chelson:

But,   but, yeah, we're just, yeah, we're just here. We're here till Sunday,   DJing   and everything and seeing people we saw last year, meeting new people and stuff like that. Yeah. Shit. We done met 4 or 5 new people. So,   it's fun. It's fun.   Now I should be home by next week, so maybe we can do the live thing. We'll see. Oh, yeah. We're gonna try it again for sure. For sure. But yeah. It's just yeah. I I got a feeling,   and I was feeling like this,   yesterday and this morning.   When I get home, I probably ain't gonna do a damn thing for about a week because I'm I'm already   sore, hurting,   tired.  

I mean, it's a it's I mean,   you know, DJing and stuff like that   just takes so much out of you. You know?   Especially when you're doing it for 8, 9 hours a day.   Right. It just it just wears you out. You know? It's still fun. Do not get me wrong, but, yeah, it wears you out. So, yeah, by the time I get out and then traveling   because   Mississippi to,   Arkansas was 10 hours, then it was another 3 hours down here.   And then, of course, on Monday,   I forget,   my mask for my CPAP machine. I drive all the way back up to Springdale   and back to here on Monday.  

So yeah.   Yeah. It it yeah. I'm tired. That's a good answer.  

[00:11:59] Bryan Goodwin:

It's not fun that day we kicked off yet.  

[00:12:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Really. Right? That's because you're a big dummy.  

[00:12:05] Rich Chelson:

Right. Well, yeah. I You're a big dummy. Lamont? Yeah. You're a big dummy.   Yeah. No. I didn't I didn't, I did not pay attention to to all of my stuff. You know? But  

[00:12:18] Duuude-Ron :

yeah, you you failed to check your   checklist.  

[00:12:23] Rich Chelson:

Yes. I did. I I can't dude, I can't argue that, man. I really can't. You know, normally I'd say, no. No. No. No. I didn't do that. But no. Not this champ.   But   yeah.   But that's that's what I'm doing. That's where I'm at. And   y'all can't hear the music, can you?  

[00:12:41] Duuude-Ron :

We can't I can't hear little  

[00:12:44] Bryan Goodwin:

little   background noises, and there it's never you never hear the whole thing. Okay. So it's just it's you're just catching background noise, and it's just, you know, the occasional   just occasional note and single. Literal single note from time to time, man. So Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, so  

[00:13:02] Rich Chelson:

so, so the mic I'm using and plus Zoom's noise gate is basically taking it all out. See, I was Killing it. Afraid of that because,   I mean, I can hear every word. I can hear every beat.   I can almost hear every instrument from this far. And I'm probably,   what,   300 feet   Okay. From from the stage right now in a tent.   So and and and I can still hear all that   while I'm talking to y'all. So I'm like jamming. You know? Alright. Trying to do it, man.   Woo woo.   Yeah. Okay. That's my craziness.  

[00:13:44] Duuude-Ron :

Whoop. Whoop.   Damn.  

[00:13:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I'm lame. I know.  

[00:13:50] Bryan Goodwin:

So what, what are you, what are you doing while while over here? What what brings you over to, over to Moyers?  

[00:13:57] Rich Chelson:

Well,   we were here last year DJing.   Adam asked us to come and DJ  

[00:14:05] Bryan Goodwin:

operation to And that's Adam Sandoval?  

[00:14:08] Rich Chelson:

Adam yeah. Yeah. Adam Sandoval atadamsandeval.com.   Yep. You can find him on YouTube. Great guy.   Rez Motorcycles and everything, so like that. Check him out.   And,   we played for him last year, and, honestly,   I thought we did a shitty job, to be honest with you. But, apparently, he liked it   and asked us to come back. And since we've been back,   a lot of the people   we met last year   were real happy we were back because they just they thought we were rocking out good. And I'm like, yeah.   Hey. Now we're drunk.  

[00:14:43] Bryan Goodwin:

We got we're real  

[00:14:45] Rich Chelson:

drunk. Drunk. Yeah. Don't go good. That's great. Thank you. Thank you. I'm glad you I'm glad you liked   us. You know? I mean, trust me.   But,   so so, yeah, we're,   operation tears of 22 is is back here again DJing this year.   So   and we don't know what's gonna happen from here because we're not thinking that far ahead.   Yeah. We're just going day by day because   our   our memories are   well, I can only speak for myself. My memory is about as long as my packer.   So I   I don't think that far ever,   unless I have a calendar.  

[00:15:27] Duuude-Ron :

And if you plan that far, even planning that far,   shit will   fuck up in a heartbeat.  

[00:15:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. God will man plans and god laughs. So is is that what we're Don't we? You're right. You're right. So yeah. But that's that's what I'm doing.  

[00:15:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's,   in fact well, here. Let me see   if if I don't,   screw it up.   Sit here and do this.  

[00:15:58] Bryan Goodwin:

What are you doing?  

[00:15:59] Rich Chelson:

See?   This is where I'm sitting at right now.  

[00:16:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey. That looks like my tent.  

[00:16:09] Rich Chelson:

No. This is the AC on?   Nah. I I just got a fan in here.  

[00:16:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:16:16] Rich Chelson:

Believe me. I wish I had AC.  

[00:16:18] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you you know, if I if I would've been able to come down there, you know what the hell I would've had in my tent. Oh, I know. I shoot. I know that, dude.   Hell, yeah. You'da had the AC, but I woulda had my yeah. Hell, yeah. I got that. I still got the AC unit in the trailer. I I am not  

[00:16:35] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm too old to go camping. I go glamping now. I was gonna say, I thought I for some reason, I was thinking I heard   that, that   dude was actually Dutch for glamper.   I think that's what it means.  

[00:16:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Most part. Yeah. I ain't I ain't camping   shit.   I will have my generator and my air conditioner   Right. And my coffee pot   and my fur and my refrigerator.  

[00:17:06] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:17:07] Duuude-Ron :

Damn, Skippy. I know. I'm too old for that.   What when I was in the military   and   no. No. Ain't doing that no more.   No more. Right? Crap.   Yeah. No. Ain't Ain't ain't doing the freaking military maneuvers anymore and carrying a   110 pound rucksack all over God's green creation.  

[00:17:29] Rich Chelson:

That's right.   Nope. Using the pump tents,   the shelter half, you had to find a buddy to have another or or or or buy another one.   Or buy another one. Yep. So you had your own tent   or Yep. Or y'all slept in a GP medium or GP large,   you know? Yep. And and those were canvas   with wooden poles heavy.   God. I think they were heavy as shit. And Yeah. They were. So yeah. No. I I don't   I don't do that. And and and the kites,   the Oh my god. Army kites. Oh my god.  

[00:18:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Actually, I've got well, they're they're not official army cots, but they're the army style   cots.  

[00:18:12] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:18:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Those ain't bad.  

[00:18:14] Rich Chelson:

Well, for some people,   but but, yeah, my back don't like that.  

[00:18:20] Bryan Goodwin:

My back likes that cot better than it does the it does the hard ground.  

[00:18:24] Duuude-Ron :

Well Well, yeah, that's true. But you That's true. You also have to add a air mattress on that, son, bitch, now.  

[00:18:29] Rich Chelson:

But   but but see, this is why this is why I went and bought a queen-size 22 inch air mattress.   Oh, okay.   I'm sleeping healthy.  

[00:18:42] Duuude-Ron :

Why? Because in the morning,   if we're even in our beds,   we get up, and as soon as we our feet hit the floor trying to get up, you hear you hear the sounds of,  

[00:18:54] Bryan Goodwin:

breakfast cereal, snap, crackle, and fuzz. I was gonna say you hear you hear,   distant gunfire.   Right? Exactly.  

[00:19:02] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. No. It's so yeah. No. I I've got the air mattress, and   it's   I can deal with the air mattress. You know?   But,   it's all good. But, yeah, that's   I should we'll be done on Sunday. I should be back on the road   and by Monday and back home by   Wednesday at the latest.   I mean, it'll be probably Tuesday, but I'm giving myself time because Thursday   Thursday, I have to go see my orthodontic   for my shoulders,   and then we have to podcast next Thursday. So Yep.   I might I might have some more tales from the road. Who knows?  

[00:19:43] Bryan Goodwin:

So alright. Well, listen to what,   what the dude was actually saying.  

[00:19:48] Rich Chelson:

Well, hang on. Hang on. Hang on, Brian.   What about you?  

[00:19:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Dude, nice. What about me? Well, I've haven't been doing anything other than I've been been,   the only thing I mean, the only things I've been doing is,   besides for driving, is is working on, relaxed mail, which is my, which is my site, my business. I'm my little side hustle thing that I'm trying to get up and moving. Well,  

[00:20:12] Rich Chelson:

well, explain a little bit because   our audience does not know what what a relaxed male is or   anything. So, you know, ex well, okay. To live.  

[00:20:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, the relax smell and I I've discovered   a a huge   benefit to the relax   smell that honestly was not in my   in my view whenever I created created the whole concept of what the relax smell is. Because relax mail, as a concept,   is where   guys can just   find   that inner peace.   Mhmm. Is the essential baseline   of what it is. Now and it's a set of, we've got a foundation of 4 pillars, which is a man's mind, man's body, man's soul, and the community.   And when you have all of 4 of those pillars   thoroughly reinforced,   you're able to step forward into life a lot more comfortably.   Right. But also, it allows you to relax. And one of the big,   I was listening to a a gentleman,   who does the podcast,   Alive and Free. His name is Bob Gardner, and I'm I still wanna get   you, Rhett,   and and, dude,   I think both of y'all would benefit tremendously   getting over to one of Bob Gardner's retreats.  

Because he   changes how you hold yourself   to change how your attitude of the world is.   Okay. It is a full body transformation,   essentially.   Okay. Because a lot of times At what cost?   If I'm remembering right, it's about $45100.   But you when you get done with it,   not only do you get rid of all the   discomfort that is what's inside you.   Mhmm. You look at those sensations completely different.  

[00:22:15] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Okay.   I mean, it's I'm gonna have to roll some pennies and, you know, stuff like that. You know? Oh, yeah. Leave up for a minute, but, you know, maybe.  

[00:22:25] Bryan Goodwin:

So but he was talking on, one of his episodes here recently and it didn't ever click, Hoomi,   until that   until he, was talking about it   because he actually started out as being able to help people   free themselves   from the   from essentially from the prison of addiction.   Right. And he uses the word addiction just because that's what everybody in society actually uses   to represent   a   disease   that they have with inside of them.   And that's the reason why they because for him, and I actually have believed this for a while too,   that addictions actually don't exist.  

There is no such thing as an addiction molecule   in anything that we wanna say is addictive.   Heroin,   not addictive.   Alcohol,   not addictive.   Marijuana, not addictive. Porn, not addictive.   Any of that type of stuff,   there's no addiction   actually in there. Because they like to also say, well, addict you can't help it. Addiction is a is a disease. No. Bullshit. It's not a disease, man. Yeah. It is you not being able to control your habits.  

[00:23:37] Rich Chelson:

That's yeah. You're right. It's yeah. It's it's it's all up here in your mind.  

[00:23:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But the reason he was explaining what freedom was and it's   and with that,   when you learn to   change how you view what's inside of you.   So whatever it is, you, when you are, say, you're you're looking at porn.   Maybe you have what a lot of people like to call a porn addiction.   Why do you look at porn? Well, it's not so much   for the whole process. You're not looking at it to lustfully go, I wanna be with that girl. I'm gonna I wanna hang out with that girl. I wanna have sex with that girl.   It's the experience that you're you're going through. It's the emotional experience of what you have, and that draws you away   from whatever   ill sensations you have inside of you. A lot of times, guys who look at a lot of porn, they look at a lot of porn because they're bored.  

They find themselves they don't plan on it. They just kinda wake up one day and, you know, they were look around and go, you know what? I don't have anything to happen doing today.   Or I've got I've got 15 minutes,   of nothing to   do. And all of a sudden up comes and they can even will notice that, holy crap. I don't really need to be looking at this right now. I've got other things I need to be doing. And they will still find themselves   on a automatic path to looking at   pulling up a porn site and watching watching porn.   It's the boobies. Well, well, it's the boobies. It's the it's the action, but it also it is the   sudden change   of posture and energy within you at the very end. When you have that orgasm,   your feet your body   changes   energetically speaking. Your body changes   physiology   in your   physical state.  

However, you my my words won't bounce outright.   So, physically,   you change   your physiology.   That's the word I was trying. Alright. So   so that's why afterwards,   you feel,   you feel a lot more relaxed. You feel   better. You have this little   orgasmic high that you're that you get to feel, which will last for just a few moments,   but you get you have just changed   your that you've just distracted yourself from that disease that you were feeling before. Right. Whatever that emotion was, you've drowned it out with something just a little more powerful   in the form of an orgasm.  

Right.   Alcoholics.   They do the same thing, but they change their their physiology   by drinking alcohol.   Right.   Food addicts.   Same thing. They changed their physiology by eating a lot of food, feeling stuffed and miserable,   which that feels better   than the   thought of being rejected by a man or being rejected by   for women and being rejected by women for,   by men. You know? Whatever it is that they thing is, nowadays,   that all swings both ways. Well, yeah. Yeah. It it swings all the way. I mean   And   but Maybe you say down. I don't know yet.   But it's it's but it's all it's all just based upon what you think.  

Right. And I used to watch,   not not to the point where it was obsessive, but I used to watch a good deal of porn myself.   It was just it was   typically, for me, it was Saturday night before I went to bed.   That was usually my   big porn watching time.   I'd watch 1, 2 movies. I had a had a couple of, a couple of old porn. And I liked I personally I liked the old late seventies, early eighties style. They had a little bit of a it had a whole series, you know, a a kind of what what I'm gonna call a plot.   Well, if you see, if you if you're watching listening on the, on on the podcast, I'm I'm putting in air quotes, a plot.   And I mean yeah. I mean,   hell, I even had a favorite,   porn star. That was, Coleen, Brennan.  

Just a smoking hot redhead. Just I mean, everything about her was redheaded.   And it was the you know?  

[00:27:52] Rich Chelson:

But see, now now I did watch one porn movie years ago, and I can't remember the name of it or anything about it, but   it actually had a plot, like, an actual movie.   And I was I was impressed.   You know? Oh, I've watched a few that had,  

[00:28:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Beyond the Green Door. I mean, hell, that actually won an Academy Award.  

[00:28:13] Rich Chelson:

Really?   Yeah.   Okay.  

[00:28:16] Bryan Goodwin:

So, I mean, that I ain't even seen it.  

[00:28:18] Rich Chelson:

It it's an interesting one. It's it's different. It's an interest. And everyone know we're not really condoning porn, but just know it happens.  

[00:28:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, it and it happens. But the reason why we look at porn   is because   of the fact that we have a   we're tensed up in some form, fashion, or other. Whether you wanna call that tense, that discomfort,   disease or ill ease or just discomfort or   just bad thoughts or whatever you wanna call it,   we have that we have these roaming thoughts when we are not able to be relaxed.   But Right. On the past   7 years of the of the journey that I've been on, I've realized my porn watching   has dropped to I may watch a a flick   and be just one flick   once a year. I think I've watched 1, like, about 7 months ago.  



[00:29:16] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:29:17] Bryan Goodwin:

And before that, I couldn't tell you when I watched 1. Right. And this is within the last just 2 years.   And the   and it it almost sounds bad,   but the reason that a lot of   men   also strive for   or don't is thought to have   a porn,   not a porn addiction, but a sex addiction   is for the same reason.   It's just they try to jump from girl to girl to girl to girl and see how many they could shack up, which sounds a lot like the hookup culture these days.   Right. But when you   are able to find yourself at a more relaxed state, when you're able to just breathe and be comfortable with yourself,   all of a sudden you're not just, you're not running around going, I gotta have sex. Gotta have sex. Gotta have sex. Right.  

Right. Right. So do get to actually have the nookie,   it's actually   pretty damn cool. It's a lot of fun. You have you're able to actually   be more present   with who you're sleeping with.  

[00:30:19] Rich Chelson:

Right. So so   so the thing is, what do you I mean, with all this   that that you've, you know, gone through and that that you've explained and, you know, your understanding,   how do you how do you help people?  

[00:30:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Well, you broke up a little bit, so I don't know if that was my end or your end. Nah. It might have been my end,  

[00:30:39] Rich Chelson:

because I mean, I've I've got I've got full signal on my Wi Fi, but  

[00:30:44] Bryan Goodwin:

there's a lot of people here. Okay? Yeah. There's a lot of people, so they're gonna drown the Wi Fi out. Right. Right. What what I was asking so so  

[00:30:52] Rich Chelson:

so with all that,   how do you help men?  

[00:30:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I help I help them through their relationship   woes.   I help them when they find that their relationships   are are struggling.   I we come I come in, and I help them   become at ease   with what their thoughts are, with the what their emotions are. Because this is what Okay. So many men struggle with.   Is that it's I've gotta be,   you know, I have to have   whatever some type of   of object,   object in their life   to to reach for.   And when they don't reach for that, they get themselves so wrapped around the the axle   that they make themselves miserable.   Right. So all of a sudden, they're they're, you know, they're jump they're going into porn addiction.  

They're going into,   trying to better their relationship,   but they're standing around going, well, my wife won't do anything to make the back to the thing better. She just sits around and watch television all the time. I try to have a conversation with her, and all it does is wind up in a fight. Well, what are you making that fight mean?  

[00:32:07] Rich Chelson:

What what what I was asking is,   what do you do   to help men get through this?  

[00:32:14] Bryan Goodwin:

I help them understand   that their thoughts are actually   what   helps is actually what is their is the boundary that's keeping them from finding what their happiness is.   From what Okay. From them finding what their fulfillment is.  

[00:32:30] Rich Chelson:

Okay. How do you do that?  

[00:32:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, usually by having some really darn good conversations.   Okay. Alright. That's good. It's just it's a I I You know, we'll usually about every,   right now, it's we're doing, yeah, I've got a weekly package that I put together at I'm helping,   helping some guys with.   And, I mean, they're they're   figuring out, holy smokes, if you relax whenever the wife gets all upset, you know, you're not   you're not pissing her off. And if you can when she gets mad, you're getting your you normally used to finding yourself getting all all worked up, tensed, and and feeling anxious stuff just because she's pissed off.   And you can just kinda step back and go, well, this is her. You know, she's angry for whatever reason she wants to be angry for,   which sounds cold and heartless, but it's not. You just say, hey. No. It's it's her emotions. Let her have her emotions. Stop trying to manipulate her to be in a better mood because she's pissed off.  

Because when you try to fix it, you're gonna you're gonna make it worse. You're throwing gas on the fire whether you realize it or not. Right. Right. And It it it's like telling her to just calm down.  

[00:33:39] Rich Chelson:

Never a good move. No. Never tell a woman. Never say those words to a woman. No. Ever.   But but   how   can men find you   to to talk to you about this?  

[00:33:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, if, they are over on if they're watching   listening to the podcast through,   through True Fans, you could actually hit my my   my profile picture on,   on on the person's tab. And, it'll actually take me take you over to my website, which is relaxedmail.com.   That's males in a dude.   And   you from there, you've got blogs and my own personal podcast and and other resources that you can, you can turn turn to. But, then we also if you don't wanna do that, you again, you can go to relax mail dot com. So didn't know this was gonna be a a a pitch for my site.   So Snug that. Well, that's why I'm kinda, like, going, well, you know, it's it's it's a it's a thing. It's a place. Hey. Hey. Snuck that in on you, didn't I? Yeah. Well, you know, it  

[00:34:44] Rich Chelson:

this You you had no idea that shit was going on. I I didn't I I I was I was resisting   as much as I could. I I know you were. I know you were. That's why that's why I kept kinda trying to change your questions because,   dude, I mean yeah. Yes. Yes. We don't   we don't promote   anything on this podcast, really.   But but   you're one of the cohosts,   and you've got a side gig that helps men. So  

[00:35:11] Bryan Goodwin:

every once in a while, why not give it out there? Oh, I I for every once in a while, I do, but   it was just  

[00:35:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But but you see, that's the thing. It's only just a little bit. And it, at least this time here,   you know, someone's listening   to this, they'd be like, oh, I understand a lot better now.   Okay. I'll go there. You know? I I mean, it's just, you know, I mean, it's not something it's not something we plan to do every week.   Right now. You know? So so but, yeah, I just I just figured I'd   I'd, you know, freaking Push me into it.   Get you, you know, kinda like, come on, dude. It'll just, well, just like,   just kinda like what you did was starting this podcast,   staying on me about it. And, you know, because at first I was I was hesitant,   you know, until until finally, I'm like, alright. Let's go. Let's see. Then I must do this.  

Right? Right? It's like, damn, the bad luck. But no. I mean, I I I I love doing this. Honestly, I love doing this podcast because I get to talk to dude every week.   And,   you know, I mean I mean, dude is my hero.  

[00:36:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Aw. Speaking of wits,   dude, you've got we we've started we've started some, some some questions about you.   People are starting to try to get a little curious about, about who exactly is the dude? Because I've got a guy who I drive, Trucksmith.  

[00:36:37] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Alright. Well, what I was gonna say,  

[00:36:39] Bryan Goodwin:

where'd these questions come from? Are are they on the web or   or what?   It's a guy that I work with.   Okay. Okay.   And he he caught, he caught the the,   our attempt to go live,   last week.   That if he asked me. And and so he's he's he's curious. He's like going and why why does why does the dude   just silhouette?   And he was like, that's the point.   Because he's the dude.   And he's like, so what what was the issue?   Dude. Yeah. He's he's   like   and he's he's he's firmly convinced you you're a member of seal team 6   point 3 and 3 quarters,   and,   and and that you're still you're somehow you're a spook or something like that, and that's why you have to stay, stay hidden. So   so you don't get to you don't get discovered.  



[00:37:32] Rich Chelson:

That is cool.  

[00:37:33] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, and I'll and I'll I'll put it back to the realization   of the shadow   nose.   The shadow nose. Right.   Oh, that's cool. So so, yeah. Just sitting here We gotta got a just sitting here lurking in the shadows.  

[00:37:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, wow. No.   His name's John and, and it it John Winger, and he he's he's a good dude. He's,   he was, he's   a lot like me. He he was, he was vaccinated with phonograph needle, and so he he   is always always talking about something or another. So  

[00:38:13] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No. Brian.  

[00:38:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Brian, there can't be 2 of you. Only 1. Only 1 of you. Sorry. There there's a lot of cacao. I mean, there's times that I'll be on the phone with him and I'll it we'll be on the phone as long as you and me are.  

[00:38:28] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shit.  

[00:38:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It's   and I'm, like, going and there's there's parts of me that are, like, going, and that and what's funny is whenever I'm talking on the phone with them, I'm so conflicted because I'm like going, man, I've got my podcast I gotta listen to. I've got all these podcasts I gotta listen to. I got podcasts. I've gotta listen to it. So we'll be talking, yada yada yada yada yada and stuff like that. And   then his wife will call and stuff, and he'll hang up. And, well, you know, we go on our day and maybe 4 or 5 hours later, he'll call me up again, and we'll talk for another couple hours.   But then there's times that he doesn't call, and I'm going, what'd I do?  

Why is he not calling? And so I I I and it again, this is this whole Oh my goodness. Guys getting to a round to relax. You which which hole which leg do you wanna stand on? You know? Are you gonna be happy that John's calling, or are you not gonna be happy? So I'm hopping from one leg to the other go or like or like or like or like you're sitting here, y'all talk so much, and then when he doesn't call you, like,  

[00:39:27] Rich Chelson:

my friend left me.  

[00:39:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. What what what what what he is? It's like, oh, shit. I pissed him off somewhere. Somehow I wonder who he is. So   it's like,   please come back. Come back. I was like, should I call him? Or does that make me look like I'm all I'm I'm too needy. So Yeah.  

[00:39:46] Duuude-Ron :

So So so anyway so anyway,   you said his name is John?  

[00:39:50] Bryan Goodwin:

John Winger. Yeah. Everybody calls him Wingnut. So   Wingnut. Okay.   So yeah. And so  

[00:39:57] Duuude-Ron :

so he's thinking that I'm seal team 6  

[00:40:01] Bryan Goodwin:

was 6.3   3 quarters. Yeah.  

[00:40:04] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. So yeah. No. Well, you know, I never got to that level when I was in the army.   My level was the 82nd airborne,   and I was there for 12 years.  

[00:40:17] Bryan Goodwin:

I tried to tell them about these, I don't yeah. Yeah. I know it's a cover. It's alright. Yeah. You're right. No worries. It's yeah. Yeah. It's a cover. It's a cover. Yeah.  

[00:40:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You know? They try to get out by days. Seal team, 6 0.3 3 quarter by night.  

[00:40:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay. There you go.  

[00:40:35] Rich Chelson:

Hey.   You know?  

[00:40:38] Duuude-Ron :

You know, some people   there's gotta be a dream out there someplace. Heck, yeah, man. Right. You gotta  

[00:40:44] Bryan Goodwin:

gotta be Superman somehow.   So alright. Well,   so let's get jumped into this, this whole, this whole show. We've done a little bit of a warm up here. We've, we've we've yabbered or yammered and and and talked a bit. But   we have got,   only a few topics that that I wanna wanna tackle. And the first one is   the fact that   we have got a group of people   who is upset   at a Mexican food restaurant   because they are blocking   a hairstyle that is worn   by   Mexican men,   boys actually, typically.   And they Well, you are trying to Some some of them are in their twenties. So you Yeah. Some of them are in their twenties. But, I mean, essentially, for at my age, they're still boys.  

[00:41:34] Duuude-Ron :

Well  

[00:41:35] Rich Chelson:

yeah. Kids. Yeah.  

[00:41:36] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Kids. But at orange, they're all kids. Yeah.  

[00:41:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Just grown grown ass kids is all you are. So Yeah. It's   so and it's funny to watch   them try to make the statement of   there he's this this restaurant owner   who is a first generation immigrant from Mexico,   say   that he is being racist   to   the other   Latino   or, comp   community   because he doesn't want them to wear   he doesn't allow Edgar hairstyles   into his restaurant.   He has banned the Edgar hairstyle.  

[00:42:17] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Well, well, well, first off, before we dive into what an Edgar hairstyle is,   one,   it's his business.   Yeah. It's his money that built that business.   So Yep.   Screw everybody because   it's his money.  

[00:42:34] Bryan Goodwin:

You would think so. But you gotta remember also   back in,   what was it, 2015,   20 16, somewhere back in that area, back when the, the the alphabet mafia was really   feeling goosey,   and forced the Christian baker.   Actually, literally forced the Christian baker to have to bake their bake a I think it was a lesbian cake.  

[00:42:59] Rich Chelson:

I I remember. Yeah. I remember I remember hearing about that, and, and I didn't agree with it then.   And see, that's the thing. This is supposed to be a free country. So,   so that Baker says, no, I'm not going to do that.   There is no way   they should have let them  

[00:43:17] Duuude-Ron :

force them or coerce them because that's basically what they did. Yeah. It's extortion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. That's what it came down to was extortion.  

[00:43:27] Rich Chelson:

Right. But but you see and and and that's where that's that's wrong because because Oh, no. I agree. Yeah. If if if, I had a business,   I'd have said fuck you. Go somewhere else.   Right. You know? And and   cancel me. I don't care. Try.  

[00:43:43] Bryan Goodwin:

You know what? Or or or even yeah. I would have gone as far as to make sure that I've made the worst   freaking tasting cake ever made.  

[00:43:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. True. It's  

[00:43:53] Bryan Goodwin:

like, well, oh, you absolutely want to want to have this. Okay. Well,   I woulda charged them, you know,   $1,000 for the cake or whatever with, you know, twice as much as it was supposed to have been.   And put vinegar in it. And well, I was gonna say add twice as much baking soda as it claimed. It is supposed to have. Or oh, wait. X lax.   That might be considered poisoning. So  

[00:44:20] Rich Chelson:

How's that?  

[00:44:22] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, come on now. Just because you're putting an illegal,   substance that's not normally in there.   But if you go off and conveniently mix up, you know,   you know, some get your get your tablespoon   and your teaspoon mixed up while   Right. On adding,   adding some, some baking powder or baking soda. Right. Because I have done that. I did that for   a bill of, of, chocolate chip cookies I was making.  

[00:44:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh, dude.  

[00:44:51] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. God. That was some horrible shit.   Oh, God.   I got got the teaspoon and the tea and the tablespoon straightened out, though. So Well, that's good. I'm glad. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do tablespoons of of of of bacon soda.   Yeah. Especially in chocolate chip cookies. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's like that's like  

[00:45:12] Rich Chelson:

chocolate chip cookies, man. You ruined them.  

[00:45:15] Bryan Goodwin:

I ruined it. Exactly. I was and I was pissed because I was they came out. I mean, the texture went all was great. It was nice. A slightly cakey.   Oh, I was so pleased that, you know, did the open it up, and it still melted chocolate in there. And I was like, oh, yeah.   What the hell is this? Oh my god.   This is not right.  

[00:45:38] Rich Chelson:

So so   so what's   an Edgar haircut?  

[00:45:43] Bryan Goodwin:

An Edgar haircut.   You we've all heard of the bowl haircut. Right? Yep. It was it was popular in the At least I'll call. Popular   in the late   eighties,   early nineties, at least in in, in the Texas Panhandle. It was it got the bowl haircut got kinda popular because you could actually take the take your hair and they would just they would, it was nice short haircut, which is what   a lot of our schools back then required. You had to keep your hair off taller   and and and stuff like that.   And so the guys would get some guys,   are punked,   are are rocker guys.  

They would actually   have wear their shirt where they where the front was right up next to their throat, and they would they would have the back of their the back collar of their shirt shoved down so they grow their hair out just, you know, an extra, you know, half inch, quarter inch. So   just so that if the teacher because if the teachers or even the especially the coach, if you're on the football team, the coach caught you with with your hair touching the collar,   you were gonna run until you decided you wanted shorter hair. Right.   So   and,   yes. And I know most of the most of the kids, teachers these days go, oh, that was that was abuse. No. Right. Right. So That was called   holding a standard, people.  



[00:47:03] Rich Chelson:

So so we still don't know what an Edgar  

[00:47:06] Bryan Goodwin:

An Edgar is   the bastardization   of a bowl haircut. Instead of actually kind of tapering the hair under and and, you know, making the hair kinda look decent,   this is literally take a bowl, put it on top of your head, and then every place that's visible, you take all the hair off. So you've got a   cross between a spot,   haircut where it is just a straight line right across the for your forehead, that's the middle of your forehead,   and,   and and Shemp  

[00:47:37] Rich Chelson:

Well, I think off the 3 stooges. Yeah. Well, now Moe. Wait. Well, it's Shimp. Yeah. Yeah. It is Moe, but it was Moe. No correction. Sorry. Well, at first, it was Moe. I I think it was Shimp after that,   wasn't  

[00:47:50] Bryan Goodwin:

it? I might be wrong. Well, the only one that actually kept changing   was Curley,   because Larry and Moe were always in there. It was   Curley, Champ,   and,   there was a third one in there somewhere. Yeah.  

[00:48:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I only remember Curley and Champ myself.  

[00:48:08] Bryan Goodwin:

So but   but what's I always found it real interesting,   finding reading about the, about the Three Stooges.   Curley was a woman's man.   He was he was picking up chicks left, right, and center. He was he was   known as a Mac daddy back then. It's just Really?   Yeah. He was just   he was all about the girls.  

[00:48:35] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean I mean, I'm glad he was about the girls. I mean, I I'm very glad Oh, yeah. Well, I mean that. But but I didn't   I never would've thought Curley was a mack daddy. Oh, I I would've never either, but he was  

[00:48:47] Bryan Goodwin:

he, he was he was very much,   about woo and the ladies. Apparently, he had he had a couple a couple in every town that he'd go and visit. So Hell, yeah, man.   Rock on, dude. Hell,   yeah. So   but, but anyhow, so yeah. You got this and this this haircut is just   absolutely atrocious.   I don't care who you are.   And I may not understand because I'm not from that culture. I don't have to understand because I'm not from that culture.   Right. I see that, and it's it's it's fugly, man.   Yeah. It is just one   fugly looking haircut. It is not there's nothing redeeming about this damn thing.  

[00:49:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:49:31] Bryan Goodwin:

And these guys are walking around acting like they're barely badass because they've got a fucked up haircut.   It's just like it was almost like the Mexican kids in their in their Mexican candy. You almost wanna walk up to them, slap that to slap that chili   chili,   covered,   piece of dried up   baby corn   that they're gnawing on. Slap that out of their hand and hand them a Snickers bar and say, here, this is a real candy.   You know? Or they're dried up, make up a lollipop covered with chili powder. It's just, you know, all their  

[00:50:04] Rich Chelson:

poor kids. I feel sorry for it. Actually actually, some of that mix Mexican candy is pretty good, I think. Not all of it. Not all of it. Yeah. But it's it's  

[00:50:14] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm used to having that. But when I say candy,   having chili powder is not   is not granted. Okay. I I I they they like chili powder. I get that. That there's nothing wrong with having chili powder, but giving it to a kid, it's like, no.   No. No. No. That's wrong. Don't do that.  

[00:50:33] Rich Chelson:

How do you think they build up their iron stomach so early?   You know?  

[00:50:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, they   watch mom and dad eat eat eat the jalapenos,   and they enjoy the jalapenos themselves.   Oh, wow. That's how my daughter's done it. I mean, hell, my daughter has surpassed me in   in the heat she eats. She goes off and eats those haunted, ghost pepper chips by Pocky.  

[00:50:56] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. I don't. I don't I don't do that with Jopelenos.  

[00:51:00] Rich Chelson:

You don't. I Jopelenos, I eat, you know, and,   and, Nana pickles. Nana pickles. Nana  

[00:51:10] Duuude-Ron :

peppers?  

[00:51:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Nana peppers, not pickles. Nana peppers.   And those,   I tear them up in japalinos.   Oh, I I tear the hell out of them. Anything after that? Screw you. I'm out. Oh, well and I like it. And there's a lot of things with,  

[00:51:25] Bryan Goodwin:

jalapenos that I do actually like. I mean, I make a, I make freaking mean   armadillo egg for, for Thanksgiving every year. But, it  

[00:51:35] Rich Chelson:

and Only 1?  

[00:51:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, it's Oh, hell no. No. There's a Okay.   I I make a big batch, but I you know, it's an armadillo. But then I also got around to work You said armadillo   egg. You did that. I do. I make a damn good armadillo egg. Alright? But that's 1. What you going what It's a it's what you doing. Yeah. It's a whole it's described as a whole. Alright? So but anyhow, let me get on to my story. Dang it. So   but anyhow, I had a had a   a a guy that I worked with, and he was always eating, you know, hot stuff. He was, enjoying, like,   he would eat   raw jalapenos that he'd pick and all. He's, oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll try a few, and they're you know, they they're fresh out of the garden, so they're extra hot.  

And stuff this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I agree. They're they've got some of the best flavor. Just, you know, they've also got a little extra spice because   they're they're   they're not pickled.   So,   so I was like, alright. So what, what can I do for him? I know he likes hot stuff.   And so I would it was coming up to Thanksgiving and stuff. I was like, alright. I wanna make some Armadillo eggs for him. But then I was like, wait a minute.   No. And while I was picking up picking up jalapenos right next to it, or it's   what's   typically known as habaneros, but it's also known as a Scotch bonnet.  

And I picked up,   4, 4 of those, those habaneros   thinking, alright. We're gonna show it. We're gonna give give these to them. So I made what I instead of being armadillo eggs, I called them phoenix eggs just because they're freaking hot.   And   I'd I'd not   had a whole habanero before.   But I was like, but I was like, you know what? I'm gonna eat one with them. I wanna see what this is about. So I made it just the same way. I used, pepper jack cheese for the for the inside. I put and around the outside, I used hot,   hot sausage, wrapped it up in in,   in extra spicy,   done or dusted it with extra spicy,   shake and bake and baked them. I had put toothpicks in them so I can know which ones are which because I knew the wife and the kids weren't gonna want like that surprise.  

So I told them, stay away from these 4.   And so got finished cooking them. I grabbed   a a half dozen of the,   of the help of the armadillo eggs and grabbed the all 4 of the of the,   phoenix eggs. And I took them down to the co op with me.   And,   as I gave to let everybody have one. I was like, and if you're brave enough to have a extra hot, these 4 with toothpicks are the are the,   are are phoenix eggs, and they're a little they're extra extra hot. And so most people stayed away from them,   but then I I snagged 1, the,   crap. What is his name?  

Not Gary.   I completely lost his name. It just dribbled right out of my ear, and I've even got earbuds in.   Oh, shit. What is his damn name? It found a hole.   It found a hole. So anyhow. My my friend that likes hot stuff   and if he ever gets around to hearing me talk about this, and I forgot his name, he's going to he he'll kick me and I justifiable. Alright? It'll be a justifiable butt kicking.   Right. So but I am.   So he ends up,   I had gave him one. I told him that it was, it was extra hot one for him. Like, alright. And so he takes it, and I'm like, he   takes a big ass bite into it. I'm like, holy shit. You know? And he takes another bite into it. He's like, so what do you think? And he's like, that's pretty good. And he had a drink he had a bottle of water with him, and he takes a drink.  

And we keep talking, and he takes another drink. We keep talking, and he takes another drink. Takes I keep talking, and he takes a a couple more drinks out of it. He's like, yeah. You okay? He's like, yeah. Yeah. That's just that's a really good one.   He would never say it was hot, but bye, gosh. He thought it was good. And I'd said, alright. Well, sweet.   I'm I'll eat 1.   And I I ate into it, and I ate it, and I swallowed it. And it was good. It was real good. I like the flavor of of the habanero.   That heat though   is slow to build. So I already got it swallowed when all of a sudden my tongue started to ignite.  

And I was like, oh, wow.   And felt it all the way down, and I felt it in my stomach.   And I was like, holy shit, man. I can I've never felt it in my stomach. And come to find out, I never knew this, but   we actually do have taste buds in our stomach.   We have taste buds in our in all of our,   our entire intestinal tract.   I do. They're no. They're not designed they're not set up the same way as what our tongue is where it receives   salt, salt, sour, bitter, or or sweet. Right.   But it's but at the same time, they still   send, send receptors.  

And these bunkers were firing.   And so I felt it in my stomach.   And   as the as the day wore on,   I could point to you where that fucker was in my digestive tract.   I was like, oh, yeah. It's over here on this. Oh, goddamn. No. And, you know, a couple of hours later, be like, oh, goddamn. It's over here on my left side here. Oh, no. Oh, god. I know where it's at now. And yeah. And yeah. That fucker burnt all the way through. That was Damn. I that was a spice. And I'm after they I heard about the, you know, the the scorpion,   the the ghost pepper, the the   the scorpion, the Carolina Reaper. I mean,   I've had the hot the one chip challenge.  

Me and my daughter did that, and that was that one almost caused me to ralph   just because I sat there as we were driving. I got finished eating it.   Sat there for a little while. I was sweating. She was she was,   in obvious pain   and   got finished. I was like, alright. Well, let's go grab pizza because everyone else is wanting pizza. So went and got pizza, and as I was driving there, I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.   You know, I was fight I was fighting the the sweats. I turned the air conditioner on, and I had them all pointed at me. And I was   I was getting a little a little, little little faint in the, in the face. So, eventually, we got into into Elk City, and I was at   first, first convenience store I found, I ran in there and grabbed   a a   pint of, milk and was, like, chug that thing and and at least coated my stomach enough to where it was it everything settled down.  

But, yeah, there for a bit, it was touch and go. I was like,   well, I've   I I thought I was about ready to hurl, and that shit was gonna hurt if it came back up because it was still burning. Fuck. I don't doubt that.   But yeah. No. I'm and I still like heat, but she my daughter, like I said, she's she beat me out, out of the   out of the water in in the hot department, and she was,   she was eating eating.   I mean, her favorite now is just flaming hot,   Taki chips. But, yeah, there for a while, it was   we'd go to the store. She would be she'd walk back with the biggest bag of, of Pocky,   haunted ghost pepper chips she could find, and   I tried some of them.  

They've got a bite. They've got one hell of a freaking bite. I'm and I'm still someone who enjoys a good jalapeno from time to time. Right. This shit's this shit's got a bite got a big old bite, and she she likes to mix it up with with, with hot sauce, so which is just too funny. But Yeah. No. And then she would wander walk around the rest of the day going, my stomach hurts. Oh, it's like, well, I wonder why. Right. Stop itching.  

[00:59:12] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[00:59:14] Bryan Goodwin:

So but anyhow. So yeah. Edgars. Edgars are these horrendously terrible haircuts. And I I you thought I was gonna forget where we were at, but now I haven't.   And they   and it's just funny to hear   the people in the news and the people on the left   talk about how racist this this Mexic 1st generation Mexican immigrant is   because he has   banned Mexican boys from his restaurant   because they're wearing an wearing an Edgar.   And the reason why the Edgar's is because   the,   there was a   there was a a a crime and, I'm gonna call it a massacre. It wasn't it it was a mass shooting.   Right.  

And   I think there were 6   kids involved in the shooting. Kids, young young men.   And   they all all 6 of them had the same   fucking do stupid ass looking looking haircut,   which I mean  

[01:00:16] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. But but okay.   If you stop and think about it,   look at how petty that is because of a haircut.   You know? It's like I mean,   these dudes were were were were in a mass shooting.   Yeah.   I mean, I I can understand I can understand a restaurant owner   not not allowing that haircut,   you know, because he just doesn't want it want that in his establishment.   You know? But Right. That is that is no reason   to infringe on his rights,   you know,   for for owning a business or whatnot. You know? That's I don't know. It's just this is what   stuff like this irks me. Instead of instead of people going after   the main freaking problem,   they gotta pick and and pick one little thing.  

One thing. Oh my god. We can't have that. Oh my god. That   in fact in fact, a mass shooting is worse than a fucking haircut.   You know? And and And you would if if it was about  

[01:01:18] Bryan Goodwin:

the guns, the left would have been all about it. But because the left   has decided   to is out to   demonize the guns, not the people who pulled the trigger  

[01:01:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But what and and there you go. The thing is, hold it.   No one goes after the cars when a drunk driver hits somebody.   Okay. They go after the driver.  

[01:01:43] Bryan Goodwin:

But No. But once they if they ever happen to get guns outlawed, that'll be the next thing I need for a bit. Maybe so. But but right now, 2 days because they're all about mass transit.  

[01:01:53] Rich Chelson:

But but still, this minute, right now, today.   Right. You know, a drunk driver and   they don't go after car companies. They don't they don't go after the old companies.   Anything else that happen or knives. If someone uses knife, they don't go after the knife manufacturer. They go after the person.   But God forbid,   if someone shoots them with a gun,   then, oh god, we have to stop that.  

[01:02:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, it's kinda like that,   that,   illegal immigrant,   the the illegal correction. Let me use the proper terminology.   The illegal alien   in Manchester, England   that killed a cop   with a knife,   because   guns are a little harder to get a hold of, but it doesn't keep people from actually committing crimes.  

[01:02:43] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:02:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Killed a cop   and they weren't gonna they did everything they could to the the   media there did everything they could to keep from mentioning   that he is a   illegal alien, or as they like to call them nowadays, they're newcomers.  

[01:03:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. My ass.  

[01:03:06] Bryan Goodwin:

But You're right. They they They ain't newcomers.   They they   talked about how the   it was the   extreme   right's fault that the guy attacked   because the guy tried to attack   a   a   one of the,   political candidates   that's running for office.   Right.   And because he is right,   politically right,   it's kinda like the way they are here.   They the number 1 the fastest   growing   political party   in Germany right now is the AfD or AFL.   AfD, I think, is what I forget it. Anyhow, it's a German word, so I don't even try to expect me to try to pronounce it. Right. But, its initials are like a f d or a d f or the a d l or something like that. Damn.   This they broke it down to 3 letters. But the to protect   democracy,   the,   the the green party and and the lefties   in Germany   are trying to outlaw   this this party   as a party of extremists   because they wanna protect democracy,   which is a lot like what   we've heard over here in in the US. We gotta protect democracy   by by removing   our competitors.  



[01:04:33] Rich Chelson:

No. No. That's that's not how you protect   democracy.  

[01:04:37] Bryan Goodwin:

How you Well, according to them, it is. If you want people to vote for you, you're gonna get rid of your competitor. Well, yeah. IE Trump. But but  

[01:04:47] Rich Chelson:

but   to protect democracy, you have to get the stupid asses in there first out   and put in people that are that are better than them.  

[01:04:56] Bryan Goodwin:

But, you know Yeah. And that's what what folks are trying to do, but at the same time, there's Are you sure you're trying to do that? That's the reason why Sometimes they're wondering.   Sometimes they're going. That's that's the reason why you're hearing   about bird flu now. Bird flu is starting to make a big yeah. Oh, there's they're bringing it back. They're bringing it they're talking about   vaccines and because they've had 3   they've had 3 infections   of,   or 3 cases   of humans   catching them. 2 were from a dairy farm. 1 was from a   bird,   from a, an actual bird farmer. Oh my god. They had one one guy with didn't work. COVID didn't work. So so bird They're like, oh, yeah. You're gonna Oh, we'll just bring flu is well, bird flu is so damn deadly because, well, they ain't saying the fact that they're killing they're calling off the the flocks   if they find out that the bird has got it.  



[01:05:56] Rich Chelson:

Bird flu.   Bird flu wasn't that deadly in the first place. The very first place. It's pink eye.   Yeah.  

[01:06:03] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean Anytime we anytime anybody's ever had it, it's just it's pink eye.  

[01:06:08] Rich Chelson:

Fucking pink eye has been around since   God was a little boy. Yeah. I mean, simply   take a gold ring and rub it on it. Guess what? It goes away.  

[01:06:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And   what was it? It's,   they had one guy actually die from bird flu, but they   if you look deeper into the report, you find that he was,   he was sick as is   already when he,   contracted bird flu and was also immuno,   had a,   immunity problem?  

[01:06:44] Rich Chelson:

So so he didn't die from the bird flu. He he died from other stuff. He he died with bird flu.   Yes. The bird flu just helped everything along.  

[01:06:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Ma'am, but Yeah. It was just it was that That was not the only cause.  

[01:06:57] Rich Chelson:

No. No. It was just It's kinda like the It's kinda like the Just like with COVID. Just like with if if someone died with COVID, you know, if they died of a heart attack and had COVID, oh my god. They died. COVID. And that's why the numbers are so freaking high. Died in a car wreck. Died from COVID.   Oh, yeah. Because oh my god. He   we tested him after they were dead, and, yes, they got COVID.  

[01:07:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Of course. But also they use,   and there's talking about them talking about using it again is the PCR test, which with PCR test, even the creator of the test says,   you can get   any disease you want   if you give that to PCR test enough cycles.   Right. You could give a you could pull up aids if you wanted to. Right.   And so   you can you and he he says it's a scam. It's it the the test does not work. The test is an actual failure. He the creator the the the inventor of the PCR test has actually said this. Right. But yet, the the left is all gung ho about, hey, we need to use the the PCR test because, you know, because it's quick and it's easy. It's like, well, yeah. I mean, you can also go off and crank up 75   cycles on it and, you know what? You can prove that it's it. We got bird flu. Well, yeah. Right. Except that it doesn't.  



[01:08:19] Rich Chelson:

Right. No. But but you see, it it it it it scares people because people   watch   certain shows, certain news things on TV,   whether it's left or right,   and they don't And immediately just believe what they hear. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're they're just led by the nose. Put a nose ring in your nose. You know, put a rope through it so so so someone could walk up, a leftist or someone who's extreme right wing   can come up and just grab that rope and lead you around. Yeah. Because that's exactly what that's exactly what the media is doing. Wow. And it doesn't matter which side of the aisle you're on. Yeah. And that's the reason why I like no agenda so much,  

[01:09:02] Bryan Goodwin:

is because of   the fact that they are actually they actually break it down. They they call themselves media assassinators.   They they do online media assassinations,   and it's just they   see what's what the media is talking about, and then they break it apart. They, like,   look at, like someone is talking and they're getting about something really serious and they're they talk about the tales, so you'll hear, like, a reporter going, yeah. And he died   died because of a gunshot   wound. And it's like, what's the laugh for?   What was that kid what was that and they call them Tails.  

It's like, what's what was that about? What were they doing? And they   kinda point out, like,   the the new   CEO   of PBS.   They're convinced that she's a,   she's actually a spook for the CIA.   Really? Because she has   no real   experience with radio.   Okay. She worked for   one company,   that was associated with CIA. She worked with another company that was kind of associated with CIA, and then all of a sudden, she's working for PBS.  

[01:10:11] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean, that would be a fair assumption.  

[01:10:14] Bryan Goodwin:

I wouldn't think. But And will they also like to go and and they'll just look at, like, her her Wikipedia.   And if it's like, if it's just a a   a grouping of just different positions that really don't make sense   Right. It's like, oh, well, you could definitely tell that this was put together by the CIA because there's no flow in the in the thing at all. It's just a bunch of pets put stuff in there to call it good. You know, I I would stop and think about it. What about what about when the CIA makes a cover for an operative  

[01:10:44] Rich Chelson:

that that   they've got a lot of practice at that. Oh, yeah. So so so they can make it flow.  

[01:10:51] Bryan Goodwin:

So Yep. But at the same time, you you go and talk to, like, the January 6 people, and they they can all point at point to you. It's like, yeah. Yeah. We knew that guy was a fed. He looked like a fed. He's the only one that would walk around in khaki jeans and a and a polo shirt. So Yeah. But  

[01:11:08] Rich Chelson:

but you see, that's the thing. What I I mean,   yeah, I don't know. You see, this is what because   pea   people don't do research enough   to Oh, no. Actually have an informed opinion.  

[01:11:22] Bryan Goodwin:

No. Well, if because that's too   Oh, yeah. Too much for too hard, though, to to go through and actually dig up and   look at what the opposite information is. Hey. Hey. I mean, I've try  

[01:11:31] Rich Chelson:

I I and I'm I'm guilty of it myself because  

[01:11:36] Bryan Goodwin:

well, yeah. I've tried going I've tried going to MSNBC   to see what they're talking about. And it just I'm like, oh my god. This is, you know, this is horrible bullshit. Fuck this shit and turn it off. And after 5, 10 minutes, it's like, okay. Yes. Not everything is Trump's fault. Sorry. You think Trump is the worst thing known to man? I think Biden's the worst thing known to man. Alright? So we're, you know It goes Biden's harder.  

[01:11:59] Rich Chelson:

You know? But but, see, still the thing is, though hey. I wanna tell everybody. I wanna tell y'all, and I wanna tell everybody.   Google has more than one page when you do a search.   Google has many pages.  

[01:12:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Just scroll up. Google's not trustworthy as it is, anyhow. Well, no. I know that. But but in any case They  

[01:12:19] Rich Chelson:

they actually Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Searches over the last Hold on. Hold on. No. I hang on. Let let me finish. I'm not saying just Google. Any search page has more than 1 page.   Okay? Any page. So so it's it's it's not just Google.   I'll slam on them all,   you know, plain and simple.   Go to page 2, go to page 3. You might find a site that actually dug up the truth   and printed the truth, but they're on the 18th page of the search you did, and you'll never find because Google wants to bury it.   Well, that or   even with the other search   engines, you won't go that far. Whatever is in front of you is what you're gonna go with.  

Right.   So that's   that's what I was saying. Click on page 2 and see what's because I found stuff before.   And and I'm I'm as guilty as as everybody on this too. I I just use the first page,  

[01:13:19] Bryan Goodwin:

but I have done 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and I have found some cool shit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm normally, it's you know, I'll find the the 5 or 6,   results that, that match what my, what my cognitive bias is, and   call it call it good. And sometimes I   look and I'm like, okay.   Something doesn't sound right.   And when when the bats,   batty senses or bat senses. The spider senses are are tingling,   You know? I I start looking a little bit deeper,   because from time to time, there's some stuff just it's like,   the the Jesse's,   small a.  



[01:14:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Didn't  

[01:14:05] Bryan Goodwin:

that whole thing just, from the start, didn't sound right.   That Right. What guy would come running around,   group of guys with a bunch of MAGA hats and walk around with with nooses in their hand looking for a black guy to supposedly try to string up. No one.   No one.   No one. No one even even the drunk   hillbillies who are truly racist,   which are very few out there, may I add, Ray Ray,   They're still   not that freaking blatant. They'll at least throw 1 on a, on a pointed hood.  

[01:14:40] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm. Right.  

[01:14:42] Bryan Goodwin:

They may forget to change the shoes so they can be still be recognized,   but at the same time, they're at least gonna kind of disguise themselves.  

[01:14:51] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:14:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. And so  

[01:14:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I know. Yeah. And it's crazy. And the thing is, though, the world or or the US, whoever fucking gets behind them, oh, yeah. We gotta stop this. We gotta stop this. Stop what?   What are you gonna stop?   Right. Nothing.   You ain't gonna do a damn thing except make noise. And, honestly, if you ask me, this is my personal opinion,   I think   all all the shit we're hearing   here in here in the US or around the world   is people who just wanna make noise,   who just who just doesn't care about anything but themselves. If you ask me, they're narcissist.   Okay? And they just wanna,   you know, make noise and get their 15 minutes of fame.  



[01:15:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Most of them want want their 15 minutes.   So while we are still talking about   the Internet, we'll go ahead and change over to topics.   Because   one of the most   ancient   forms   of   texting   Right.   Silently died on us this month.  

[01:16:00] Rich Chelson:

Really? What was that?  

[01:16:01] Bryan Goodwin:

That is the old,   messaging platform called ICQ.   Oh, wow. And that's all it was is I the letter I, the letter c, the letter q. ICQ.   And it how you that's how you would say it. It was often,   described with having a a flower as the as the logo.   And you didn't actually put in your   your username. You didn't have a username. They automatically assigned assigned you a a phone number. Well, it's essentially a phone number. It was a string of numbers. It was, like, nine numbers or something   like that. And I couldn't tell you what mine was. I long ago forgot what what the,   number was. But you got this number, and then you could share it with other people.  

And with that number, you could actually   message   anybody else. And this was came out about honestly, about the same time that,   that AOL was popular.   So Yeah. People had the idea of what messaging was about, but this is one that just   it hung on there for a while. I mean, I remembered having it,   there used to be a multi platform,   application   that was called Trillium.   And it was a great   platform just because you could actually take you could add your ICQ,   login, and it would log in to ICQ.   But also, at the same time, logged in to AOL, MSN, Yahoo.   What was the other one? I'm a A couple 3 others.  

Right. And,   and so you could talk with   several different people all at once, and it didn't matter which which platform they were talking to you on. Right. Right. You would you could still just jump on there. You could talk to, hey, talk over to   to to John on AOL, and while at the same time, you're also talking to, to Jimmy on ICQ, and then you had your your your buds that you were talking to over on,   Yahoo Messenger, and you could just Right.   Communicate. But ICQ was one of those   one of those,   services that,   I completely forgot about until until I heard about, about ICQ shutting their doors. And you go to their site now, and it's, yeah. Sorry, dude. We're we're gone. We're no longer around, and it's, crazy big. Because they've they've been around since, what, 96 or before.  

Yeah. About 97, 9 96, 97 or so.  

[01:18:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I I I never used ICQ.   I I I never got in I never got into that. I was driving truck.   So   and and,   I mean, back then, in the early days of the Internet, there was no Wi Fi.   There there was only manual lines and  

[01:18:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. I mean No one had He got bed stacked because you were on the Internet and someone needed to make a phone call.  

[01:18:55] Rich Chelson:

What? 97, 98? Oh, hell no. We didn't have Internet in in, 99%   of places.   It wouldn't until,   I wanna say   the early 2000   was when truck stops started against Internet points.   Yeah. 97, 98. Oh, hell no.   Because it was still so new.   And at that time, a desktop,   minimum $4,000,  

[01:19:20] Bryan Goodwin:

a laptop minimum fee. No. No. No. No. No. Got what? Now the I was able we were able to get a a desktop   for and this was   right   at the beginning   of   not in 96, 97, it was still I mean, $1500   was a lot of a lot of money. A $1,000 was was a good chunk of change.   But,   but now,   you could,   in Gateway,   started doing their $300   computers,   like, in   98, 99.  

[01:19:57] Rich Chelson:

I remember seeing Yeah. See seeing them back then. Okay. Let's say this. My buddy that that had taught me how to drive a truck   bought a, HP computer.   They had Windows for work groups 3.1.   Yeah. Okay? They paid $3,000  

[01:20:14] Bryan Goodwin:

for it. That's probably because of the Windows for groups.  

[01:20:18] Rich Chelson:

But, I mean, that was   that was the operating system at the time,   windows for work groups 3.1.   And, basically, it was a big solitaire machine.  

[01:20:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no. It would be they were big solitaire machines, but, you know, I remember having Windows   Windows,   31,   for a little while, and then was, got Windows 95.  

[01:20:40] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. 95, and then 98, 98 SC,   and then,   what, Emmy after that. Millennial.   Millennium. Emmy, and then Vista,   and then 7,   the king for years.  

[01:20:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.   They held on to it for a good long while.   And then   8.1.  

[01:21:00] Rich Chelson:

No.   Yeah. 88.1   and then went to 10.  

[01:21:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. And now at 11. 11. Yeah.   Yep. Because,  

[01:21:09] Rich Chelson:

you know you know you know it's sad. We know all of that.   Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, really? It's like   it's like, dang. That's crazy.  

[01:21:19] Bryan Goodwin:

And I've had a friend over in,   in San Diego whenever I was in the Navy. He had a had a Macintosh, and it was the ones that was,   that was created by,   well, they were the the multicolored one, the Imacs that were Yeah.   The the first all in ones.   And Yeah. Yeah. So he had, he had one of those gone over.   Those were cool. I mean, they still worked like Macintosh did back then. Yeah. But, you know, but at the same time, it was   to be able to go online   and,   and go through AOL, through through Macintosh, or even through through a Windows computer,   computer.  

Yeah. I mean, I remember doing that in 96   and 97.   And, and   then,   all the way up to 2,000 and whenever I got out of the, out of the navy and was back it was in Dallas. I mean, that's why I said I remember being yelled at for because you'd have to be on the computer. Of course, you're trying to download   a picture,   and it took you, like, an hour and a half to to download just the picture. Right. So Yeah. Yeah.   Discovering Usenets   and and and things like that was was always a blast.   It's the weird oh,   use that and,   oh, and user groups user groups. Yeah.  



[01:22:46] Rich Chelson:

Just the, No. That that just yeah. I don't know. It just I mean I mean, but that's thing, ICQ.   There is there is so many different and and you see, ICQ never really   upgraded their system.  

[01:23:00] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. No. They So   They got it to a stable point, and they just held it.  

[01:23:06] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Well, it worked. You You know? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't fix it.   You know?  

[01:23:12] Bryan Goodwin:

And, actually, I'm trying to remember. They sold to somebody, but who was it? Was it a it wasn't app, Yahoo.  

[01:23:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I I have no idea.  

[01:23:21] Bryan Goodwin:

I have I vaguely remember them selling to somebody, and it was it was there for you know, they had it forever.   But yeah. No. It's,   ICQ.   Yep. It was one of those,   one of those great things that, that allowed us to be able to first experience the communication   for to with people from all around the world.  

[01:23:45] Rich Chelson:

What's funny though?   People under   35, 40   have no clue what we're talking about. Oh, people under under  

[01:23:53] Bryan Goodwin:

20 or people, and, yeah, people under 30. So in the twenties, not a clue.  

[01:23:59] Rich Chelson:

Well,   even even even   even a lot of 30 year olds because   the ones that are better   that that that that might be old enough,   we already had,   Yahoo Messenger.   You know? Facebook was coming out.   You know? They I mean, there was ICQ   really wouldn't have flipped   on anything.  

[01:24:21] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Right. No. It wasn't it wasn't used all that much by anybody.   I mean, who wasn't who didn't grow up in the, you know, at the very beginning of the, of the dotcom bubble. So Right. Right.  

[01:24:35] Duuude-Ron :

But Right.  

[01:24:36] Bryan Goodwin:

So alright. Now That's a bummer.   Yeah. So now we're gonna go from the loss of ICQ   to a cancer,   cancer,   organization   that found themselves in a lot of hot water.   Now they were talking about   how they were out to help   women   with cervical cancer   and caught all sorts of hell for it.  

[01:25:05] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.   I just I just brought the article up.   Really?  

[01:25:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh my. Oh my. So they had to change the term   from cervical cancer   to front hole   because   the dudes who wish they were women   didn't have those.  

[01:25:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.   I got a front hole and a back hole.  

[01:25:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's exactly how they look at it. And a mouth hole.   And most of them don't even actually even have a front hole.   They got a Wow. They got a inside out in an inside out,   poke the wiener.   But that's about the because they actually have to anything.  

[01:25:57] Rich Chelson:

I mean, that's that I I mean, because we got sidetracked on the start of this. I I was gonna try and look at this article before we started,  

[01:26:04] Bryan Goodwin:

and I, yeah, I spaced it. Well, I know you didn't you didn't see it because you were questioning what the hell did you talk about a front hole? Like, oh,   wait. Wait. Wait. This this is this is good. This is   epic stupidity.   Right? And this and this,  

[01:26:22] Rich Chelson:

this is a cup of Canada.  

[01:26:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah. And, and you have to the the Canada is one of those that will throw you into jail   or at least heavily fine you   if you misgender   somebody.  

[01:26:35] Rich Chelson:

What?  

[01:26:36] Bryan Goodwin:

I know Scotland's one that'll throw people into jail if you actually misgender them. But I was thinking that, I was thinking Canada actually had something very similar to that. That or you can actually just be sued into oblivion.   1 of the 2. But yeah. Yeah. You have to you have to respect their pronouns.   Like, how how you're supposed to do that? How's that practical?   I don't know.  

[01:27:00] Rich Chelson:

But it  

[01:27:01] Bryan Goodwin:

they that's what they want. And but but, of course, I mean, the the left isn't about thinking.   They No. Their their whole idea is to let's not   think. I feel like I'm a guy today. I feel like I'm a girl. I feel like I'm a unicorn. I feel like I'm a   a roadkill possum. You know? A cow. It's all about I feel.   Yeah.   And that's the and that's the whole issue is is that   it's the it's the whole item and whole line of thought that they it's in with   hedonism.   Let's not let's not do   what's right.   Let's not do what's good.   Let's   do what   I feel like I wanna do.  

Right? Whether that makes sense or not, which because 90% of it is, no. It doesn't make any sense. Why would you do something that stupid?  

[01:27:57] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know what? If if if you wanna do that, you do you, boo. Just don't Well, yeah. And it's the same. But  

[01:28:04] Bryan Goodwin:

the problem is is that they want   everybody else to partake in their in their   delusionment.   Delusion.   No. No. But that's the reason why they they push so hard to make sure that their the kids all had were all were exposed to to what if what if you got, got transgender 4 year olds?   Yeah.   Because if you had transgender 4 year olds, I mean, hey, man. That's good. Because then you we can start working year old. We can start getting the guy from Nambla to come in and start saying hi.  

[01:28:39] Rich Chelson:

A freaking 4 yo doesn't know if it wants to eat dirt or shove it up its nose.  

[01:28:46] Bryan Goodwin:

But they   and, yeah, they you you give them you give the adults   of these 4 year olds   that type of line of questioning. It's like, well, they know.   It's like, well, they don't eat if they had a choice between eating   carrots and broccoli   or eating nothing but   but sugar?   You're saying that they should only they should be allowed to eat only sugar?  

[01:29:11] Rich Chelson:

90%  

[01:29:12] Bryan Goodwin:

of the kids, that's all they eat is sugar. Oh, no. No. These are the these are usually the ones that go on, oh, my kids are never eating sugar. Never touch any sugar. Where are they eating   pure vegan   marshmallows,   you know, made from a fake, made from fake,   non sugar sugar sweeteners in there. So   they won't have any prob except for the fact that it's all chemical. So then they wonder why they have immune deficiencies stuff. Exactly.  

[01:29:41] Rich Chelson:

Exactly. So so to sweeten. Blame that it's, it's vaccines. You know? Sweet and low, aspartame,   whatever sweetener   artificial sweetener you want Uh-huh. It was made in our freaking lab. Yeah. And it's over and and it's yeah. It okay. It it tricks you into thinking it's sweetened,   but, actually, the chemicals in it are hurting your body over time.   Right. Oh, and that's like heat heat.  

[01:30:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Go ahead. I was just gonna say it's like the like the the   the the the big meat companies are are working like the devil to see if they to come up their own form of fake meat   and why they're trying to ban ban livestock.   It's so that they can all their investment into fake meat could be used, except for the fact that you can't.   An animal's   muscle, the the meat of a of a cow   is made up of all that it eats. So if you're growing fake meat   in a petri dish,   it's not going to have   all the micronutrients   that real meat   has. It's gonna be just this kind of bland   flavorless   wrap   Oh, I know. That's go only can be used for hamburger meat, which is going to be   horrible anyhow, which still   baffles me.  

Why the vegans   who profess they don't want anything meat, work so damn hard to turn vegetables into meat?   Because they ain't What is up with this?  

[01:31:14] Rich Chelson:

They ain't right. They ain't.  

[01:31:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I know that.   They they would start thinking clear a lot more clear if they actually put some animal protein into their system.   Their brain's been eating themselves for too damn long.   You don't have an animal protein in your system. I mean, that's one reason why you look at,   right,  

[01:31:34] Rich Chelson:

natural selection. Let it run its course.  

[01:31:37] Bryan Goodwin:

I would like   to, except for   I've got a little bit of compassion. It's like, dude,   you're gonna you're you're killing yourself. Come on. Knock it off. Yeah. But but  

[01:31:47] Rich Chelson:

but the thing is, though,   I don't care if you beat someone over the head with a baseball bat. It still ain't gonna knock no sense into them.  

[01:31:56] Bryan Goodwin:

I I don't know. Might knock them out long enough for me to stuff a hamburger down the gullet.   Little mustard and pickle on salad. Little mustard, I think gotta make us taste good, you know? Of course. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:32:09] Rich Chelson:

That's funny.   That that's funny.   Like, yeah, no, it's it's I, you know, it was just, it's just funny how, how this stuff goes, you know, and it's like, it it changes from day to day.   And it's like, how do you keep up with this stuff?   Me? Well, I I I just   I tune most of it out because   I'm   I'm of the belief. If it don't affect me in the way I live, I give 2 shits.   Right. So maybe 3 on a bad day, but you know?  

[01:32:45] Bryan Goodwin:

So Yep. Oh, there we go. Sideways. Yep. Sorry. No. The missus No. You're good. Shot me a text. He's like, I hope you're still alive. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   I didn't text her since we're we're in the process of show prep. No. Okay.   That's my bad. Oops.  

[01:33:02] Rich Chelson:

I'm sorry, honey. Sorry, honey.  

[01:33:05] Bryan Goodwin:

She's just like, I hope you're still breathing. It's like, yeah. Yeah. I'm still alive. I'm in Texarkana.   I'm flapping my guns, honey. I'm I'm yeah. She she knows   her she knows Wednesday nights and and Thursday nights are are typically,   are are typically I'm talking till 10 o'clock at night.  

[01:33:23] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[01:33:25] Duuude-Ron :

Which, actually, we're we're almost there.  

[01:33:28] Rich Chelson:

Are we almost there? Yeah. Yeah. About 9 minutes out.   Okay.   So So I mean Well, 2 too.   We get so wound up. You know? I mean,   I know I know for a fact we could go probably till 11, but Oh, yeah. No. But I I I I gotta travel. Drive. Dude's gotta go to work tomorrow.  

[01:33:47] Bryan Goodwin:

So, you know, I'm And you gotta be able to function enough to to to DJ a bit.  

[01:33:53] Rich Chelson:

Just just pour enough coffee down my gullet and, and and my 20 headache powders,   and I'll be good to go. There you go.  

[01:34:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, and when when everybody gets off the stage and comes over to the camp area,   you know, now all now the now the moonshine is gonna come out. Oh, we didn't bring none. We didn't bring none. No   moonshine.  

[01:34:18] Rich Chelson:

No. We did not bring any.   No.   Wow. We did not bring moonshine. But but I will tell you,   we were given some, and we didn't ask for it. A lady   a lady that that that lives up in Moyers,   I guess, snooze the girls at the campground or whatnot, came to she older lady.   Name's Dusty. Nice lady, but   she, said something about having some moonshows. It's homemade.   It's it's running about a 110 proof. Not bad. And,   she's like she's like, oh, I ain't gonna drink it. I ain't gonna drink it. Y'all drink it, and, you know, we just try to be nice. Yeah. You know? And I mean, since we've had it down here, I mean, it's good,   but   I I think Matt's had 2 sips out of it. I've had no. I think I've had, yeah, I've had 2 sips out of it. That's it. Yeah. And because   when we came down here,   you know, we brought just beer and water.  

Right. And, you know, and and, honestly,   I've been drinking mostly water.   You know? So is Matt for the most part. But, yeah, I I mean,   I I'm just not gonna get drunk. Or,   You know? You know, I might get buzzed and feeling good, but You don't get slobbered.   No. No. No. No. As soon as I feel that buzz kick in,   I switch straight to water and that's that's all I drink the rest of the night.   Yeah. I I it just because honestly, I don't have a taste for it anymore.  

[01:35:48] Bryan Goodwin:

I really don't. That is that is again, kinda points back to what I was talking about on the relaxed mail.   Right. When you are at a   when you have fixed yourself where you're at   you're not experiencing   the disease   Mhmm.   You're you're not so dependent upon   alcohol.   You've you've taken that. Now your problem was that you were just in so much pain because of the cold and, honestly, the   the the the cold   humid humidity   that Iowa has.   Right.   I mean, yeah.   Your your bones were going, uh-uh. We're not doing this no more.  

[01:36:28] Rich Chelson:

And so yeah. That's why I drove south.  

[01:36:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And you flew south, became a snowbird, and you stayed a snowbird. So  

[01:36:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. No. I I'm not I'm I'm not moving back up.   So   but  

[01:36:44] Bryan Goodwin:

But, yeah, that's a great example of what happens when you   learn to accept yourself and you relax into who you are.   Right. And, yeah, you say All of a sudden, alcohol,   not and you used to have   shit tons of, of   Oh, I would I mean, I was always well, every time we talked to you, you'd have you'd have your rum and Coke or you'd have some type of shine or you'd have this. And it's   you know, you're a runner you typically run around with a 120 horsepower in you. So Oh, yeah. Yeah? Yeah. And, I mean, for a while, I was drinking 3 fizz of whiskey. Wait.  

[01:37:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. 3 of them. You know? And I mean, yeah, I, I fucking drink hard.   And now it's just like, you know what? No. I'm good.   So and and that's the thing. Nothing happened in my life to   to make me wanna change. It's just  

[01:37:36] Bryan Goodwin:

over time. You changed your how you held yourself   Well, true. Yeah. Because you weren't cold no more.   Right?   So, I mean, again, it it also points back to what I was saying about with with how Bob works.   Bob Gardner works by changing how you hold yourself.   Okay. Yeah. Yeah.   And because you've changed your physiology,   you changed how you stand. You're not cold. You're not bundled up. You're not bunched up. You're not hold up inside of a inside of the, the Right. The cabin anymore. You're   out and about. I mean, hell, that whole winter. You were you were going up to the beach. You were walking all over the place. I mean, you've lost, what'd you say, 50, £60 now?  

[01:38:20] Rich Chelson:

No, actually, because I got weighed,   last week or week before last at a doctor's office. And altogether since I've been down since I've been down in Mississippi,   I've lost,   £15.  

[01:38:34] Bryan Goodwin:

That's still not bad, man. Right.  

[01:38:36] Rich Chelson:

No. No. And well well, my pants   will fall off if I don't have the belt on.   My belly,   y'all had seen me before. My freaking belly was like this freaking wide. Yeah.   Shit. It's it's so wide. Yeah. I I mean, when I move my hands, you can't see them. But, I mean, it was huge.   And now it's it let's just say this.   A 3 x shirt   is is, like,   real loose on me. Nice. I'm talking baggy loose.  

[01:39:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Good. Good. Good. We want baggy loose.  

[01:39:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Definitely.   I mean, I I still hurt like a bitch, but, oh, well, that's that's life. You know? Well, but it's me. The if, but if is what is your level of pain? Is it still,  

[01:39:22] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, a 12 Yeah. Out of a 10?  

[01:39:25] Rich Chelson:

It still is? Okay. Yeah. It's it's you see, that's the thing. My pain,   my   my pain in my back, in my knees, in my hips,   It is not it has never been from my weight. It is  

[01:39:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Because of those NSAIDs   or whatever it was?  

[01:39:42] Rich Chelson:

The the statins?   Statins. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. The statins.   But but I cannot still still today, I cannot get final confirmation on that.   But from from everything I've read about the statins that I took,   these are the major side effects.   And   they don't say in in their side effects and causes and all like that.   If if after a while it comes back, you know, I figure after about 3 years, I would probably start to feel better. But   Yeah. Yeah. So but, you know, that's I just deal with it, what I do, and I'm just I'm just trying to,   lose weight as as I can and,   you know, maybe one Absolutely.  

I don't know. We'll see.  

[01:40:28] Bryan Goodwin:

So   So alright.   Well, guys, I wanna thank y'all very much for being   being able to come on, listen, hear what we're having to say on this, beautiful, wonderful night.   And as you know, we are a podcasting   2.0   type of show. We,   we are fully based on the value for value. If you want to if whatever you think   we've done, if you think we're worth   whatever type of money,   love for you would be grateful for whatever it is you send to us. If you're interested in in in being able to start donating to the show, we've got, ways of you being able to do that. You can do,   go to 2 grumpy vets.com,   and you will see a value for value tab at the top. Click that, be able to send us fiat currency.  

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[01:41:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Or is it No. Yeah. I think it's semicolon. No. Air quote.  

[01:41:53] Bryan Goodwin:

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I appreciate everything that you do. I appreciate those that are listening. We are still growing up but to the right with the direction we like going.   So, guys, thank you again. So, Rich, what do you have to say?  

[01:45:15] Rich Chelson:

Oh, really? Well, thank you for the ones that listen every week and, the new one's coming in. And, don't forget to follow us.   You know, you can follow right there in the podcast app. It's very easy. You just click follow us. Hit subscribe.   Yes.   And and   and you will,   get our episodes every Monday.   And, or earlier if Brian forgets to schedule it and just his publish,  

[01:45:40] Bryan Goodwin:

it drops right then. So either way, you still get it. I mean, you still listen. And you know Right, I could've sworn I hit that speaking of that, I could've sworn I hit Monday   for   152 is what I think I put it as. I I put a really odd number just so that I knew that it was gonna be over on the, right. Right. Over on the on the Monday side. And I'll be sure as hell the damn thing dropped instantly. I was like Oh, I know. I I I no. No. No. I, you know, I wouldn't It's not pretty wise. I didn't want it that way. Yeah. Yeah. I I wouldn't say nothing about it because I it's just but Well, I'm saying something about it. It's like, damn it.  

[01:46:19] Rich Chelson:

No. I just I saw it, and I'm like, well, okay. I mean, it's Sunday, so who cares? You know? But Oh, yeah. You know? I I was just and and I figured after I thought about it for a second, I thought, yeah. Maybe he just didn't hit the girth or maybe   you tried and because sometimes when I'm doing that, it gets all crazy on me and screws me up. So Yep. But I don't know. Yeah. Something happened. Your neck. Hey. Tell your friends. Come back. Listen to us. If you wanna talk to us right now,  

[01:46:49] Bryan Goodwin:

it's subscribe, follow it.  

[01:46:51] Rich Chelson:

[email protected],   circle [email protected].   And, that's  

[01:46:59] Bryan Goodwin:

my number. Think.   What do you think,   the dude is? Do you think he's he's he's a spook?   Is he is he sealed team 6 point, 0.3   3 quarters or or what?  

[01:47:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's cool.  

[01:47:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Let us know. Yes, sir. What's your thought who you what's your thoughts on on on on the dude is?   Dude, do you have any part You have you were quiet this this this run. So what are your thoughts?  

[01:47:27] Duuude-Ron :

My thoughts are,   I'll just continue to   linger in the shadows   and,  

[01:47:37] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, pop up to settle in.  

[01:47:40] Duuude-Ron :

Pop up when necessary   and correct when necessary.   But in all   true sense,   I will probably all always say this at the end of every podcast.   There are so many   veterans   that are in very dark places   and just   need somebody to listen to them.   Talk out their   their problems,   and try to get the weight off of their shoulders.   If you know anybody like that,   you know, get into a conversation with them   and Absolutely. Try to understand   why are they   in that current   mental state.   Because   right now, we have roughly   22 veterans a day   that take their own lives by suicide,   and that is too many.  

So if you know somebody out there that is hurting,   you know,   just talk to them. Most of the time, they just want somebody to list   for them   to listen.   Mhmm.   That that's part of what they're   they are needing.   And so,   you know,   what   over our veterans   and also,   you know,   our first responders,   our law enforcement,   they have a hard enough job.   If you see 1, go up to 1 and shake their hands.   Trust me,   That will make their day.   Absolutely.   It's only the 1 percenters that hate them.   We need to get the other 99%   that like the law enforcement   and let the law enforcement and first responders   and all that   know   that they are still valued for the job that they do.  



[01:49:47] Rich Chelson:

Gotcha. Absolutely.   And and and a if you think you're not qualified to talk to a vet,   have them call 988 and press 1.   That's the veteran crisis line, and they can talk to them. Just just reach out and help them if you know of 1.   So Yeah.   Just just a little bit extra there.  

[01:50:10] Bryan Goodwin:

So alright. Well, guys, again, we're gonna I'm gonna say thank you very much for, listening. If you enjoyed this show and you wanna have it delivered to your podcast app of choice, preferably a modern podcasting app, which you can get over at podcasting2.org.   That's the number 2   dotorg/apps.   You'll find a whole slew of of podcasting apps there that will allow that you can choose from. Like I said,   Fountain is a good one.   I'm testing out right now Podcast Guru, and I'm beginning to really dig that one because they had an update here recently, and you got Smartlist now. Yeah.   So I I'm all sorts of happy about that one. And,   the the   the list themselves, smart list are are are working pretty good. So I'm I'm I'm digging that. I'm digging that a lot. So That's cool. You there's a lot of good ways to be able to hear us, a lot of good ways that you can actually listen and support us at the same time. And   so if you, if you wanna support, again, just send us a, you can send us boost, you can send it stream sets. There's a lot of different ways where you can jump on. You can help us create stuff where you can actually spend some time. Time, talent, treasure. Those are the 3 ways that we 3 contribution   forms that we we ask for. So, guys,   for that, I wanna say thank you. We're gonna go ahead and get out of here next week. Possibly,   we might go live. So pay attention to the to our, to our socials,   which is typically Facebook as of right now. We don't have anything else really that's   live other than YouTube. So but, most of our information will be out on Facebook.  

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[01:52:17] Duuude-Ron :

Later. Peace out.