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In this episode of Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, the hosts dive into a lively discussion about the challenges and humorous aspects of daily life, from dealing with broken partials and internet upgrades to the complexities of modern relationships. Bryan shares a personal story about his daughter's tumultuous relationship, highlighting the manipulative behaviors of narcissistic partners and the importance of recognizing red flags. The conversation also touches on the resilience required to navigate life's unexpected hurdles and the value of maintaining strong family bonds.

The hosts also explore broader societal issues, such as the impact of government policies on housing and the economy, and the role of education in shaping future generations. They discuss the importance of critical thinking and the need for individuals to take responsibility for their actions and decisions. Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain their signature blend of humor and candidness, offering listeners a mix of personal anecdotes, social commentary, and thought-provoking insights.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan,   Rich, and the dude.  

[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:

What's up, dude?  

[00:00:35] Unknown:

What's going on, you penguin wearing zoot suit?  

[00:00:41] Rich Chelson:

Not much, dude.   I'm about to war the hell out, though.  

[00:00:46] Unknown:

Shit. You and me fucking both.   Yeah.   So what's wearing you out?  

[00:00:52] Rich Chelson:

Well, I was up at 04:30 this morning because my partial broke the other day,   And,   I had to take it to,   the VA this morning,   and they can fix it, which is a good thing.   The only thing is and, I mean, it was fixed by 11:30 today,   but   I signed up to get better Internet.   And so I had to be back here, so I couldn't get my partial, and I have to go back in the morning.   And then, of course, the Internet   guy got here,   and that took   quite a while.   But I now have fiber to the house,   so it's a good thing.  

[00:01:36] Unknown:

Well, aren't you just fucking special?  

[00:01:40] Rich Chelson:

Well, yes. I am, by god.  

[00:01:43] Unknown:

It's gonna be one day I'll even get Internet.   Oh.   Ain't gonna be anytime soon.  

[00:01:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, why not?  

[00:01:52] Unknown:

Yeah. Because I don't have a computer.  

[00:01:54] Rich Chelson:

You got your phone.  

[00:01:56] Bryan Goodwin:

You got your phone.  

[00:01:58] Unknown:

I do have my phone. You are correct.  

[00:02:01] Bryan Goodwin:

But to pay another   yeah.  

[00:02:04] Unknown:

But to pay another   x amount for fucking Wi Fi?  

[00:02:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   I'll just go,  

[00:02:12] Unknown:

you know,   go dinosaur. You know?   I I'll get what they provide me.   Right?  

[00:02:21] Rich Chelson:

Well, I'll have to help you float your boat there, cupcake.  

[00:02:25] Unknown:

I do oh, shit. I don't fucking talk to anybody.   So,   yeah, that's   that's about all there is to that. So   you'll go back and get your partial tomorrow.  

[00:02:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So I have to get up at   04:30 again so I can get moving because walk ins, they take walk ins from 07:30   to   08:00,   and   it's kind of a crapshoot   when they see you.   K. Doing it that way, but   oh, well.   I want my partial back.  

[00:03:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Kinda miss it already.  

[00:03:02] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah.   Yeah. I do.  

[00:03:07] Unknown:

I bet you're one of the people in '19   what was it? '81.   I want my MTV.  

[00:03:16] Rich Chelson:

No. I'd  

[00:03:18] Bryan Goodwin:

no. I didn't No. He wasn't allowed to watch MTV.   No. I wasn't. Gotta remember, he he wasn't allowed to watch anything other than Gunsmoke,   Little House on the Prairie, and   and   and   and and,   and Bonanza. And the Waltons. Governor can't forget the Waltons. Oh, yeah. No. You can't forget the Waltons.   And then and then watch Disney on Sunday evening. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that yeah. That's that's when you got to watch all the all the really racy stuff.   Right.  

[00:03:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No.   But, yeah, I got I got my Internet,   so I'm happy about that.   Wound up switching my phone from Verizon.   Oh, yeah? Cut my bill in half.   Braytell to who?   AT and T.  

[00:04:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay. Oh, you bundled it all? Okay. So you got your   your your cell on your and your and your fiber?  

[00:04:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah.   The, there was   another lady   that works with AT and T,   come by to make sure I was all set up and everything, and   and we got to talking about, you know, my phone and stuff. And she asked me what I pay, and   I said, oh, about $1.40. And she looked at me and she said,   for one line?   I said, yeah.   Yeah? She's like, oh my. Oh, no.   No. I she's like, hang on a minute.   And so she   started doing things, and I got to keep both numbers.   Yeah. And,   everything like this. I got I got the same thing I had with with Verizon   for half price.  

Well, that's good. Yeah. So I'm like so, yeah, I called Verizon,   and the dude at Verizon I mean, he was cool about it. You know? And he was like, well, if you don't mind me asking, he's like he's like,   you know, you've been with Verizon for three years. Have you tried to call us, see if you can lower your bill?   I said, hoss, I don't think y'all can get half my bill down.   And, I mean, the dude didn't try and bullshit me. He's like, yeah. That might be kinda hard.   You know? But, I mean, he was real nice, and I told him who I was going with.   And he's like, well, I'm sorry to hear that, he said, but I totally understand it.  

You know?   I'm like,   you know, you know, any day you can save me half off my and plus,   I don't have a contract   with AT and T. That's good.   So   so my price is set.   Now   the only time that I might ever have a contract is if I buy a phone through AT and T.   You know?   Yeah. But   but since I already had my phone,   I'm not I'm not locked into any contract.   That's good. So I was like, alright. We good.  

[00:06:21] Unknown:

Well, there you go. Right. A dollar's a a dollar's a dollar, a dime's a dime.  

[00:06:27] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.   Okay. I got some fast freaking Internet.  

[00:06:32] Unknown:

So   that will, what, help you game better?  

[00:06:38] Rich Chelson:

It'll just make things smoother.   You know, pages load faster. I've already noticed, like, on TV   because with with my other Internet   and I didn't watch much Paramount Plus   just because of the fact   that with Sparklight,   Paramount Plus   was all jittery.   I mean, god, it would take forever just to open the app and then to bring a show up. And then if I click the PlayDash   show,   it would have to buffer and think about it for a minute.   And   when I got my fiber hooked up, I went into Paramount Plus,   kicked the show on,   and boom, it started playing.  

I'm like, there we go.   So   so, yeah, it'll it'll just make things smoother and   operate better, and,   you know, it and it won't slow down.   I didn't,   AT and T just   got fiber Internet in town here.  

[00:07:39] Unknown:

Oh, wow. Yeah. I know our area,   we've had AT and T Fiber   for   four or five years now.  

[00:07:50] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:07:51] Unknown:

Because my next door neighbor,   he was he was the only one, so they had to   wire or   I think they had to do a separate   thing to get him wired in   because it actually wasn't into   I don't know.   But he was the only one that had it.   I'm like, well,   amen, brother. You knocked yourself the fuck out.  

[00:08:19] Rich Chelson:

Well,   they, offered me   fiber Internet   gig speed at $65   a month.  

[00:08:27] Unknown:

Well, that's pretty fucking good.  

[00:08:29] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Versus $1.15   for the Internet I had.   So   so, yeah, tomorrow, I gotta call them and,   call the spark light and say, yo, I ain't keeping your   service.  

[00:08:44] Unknown:

So you saved   half there,   almost half. Altogether. Half on your half on your phone.  

[00:08:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Pretty much. Altogether, I saved about a $120   a month.   I was paying There you go. I was paying $2.50   a month between phone and Internet,   and now I'm paying total of, like, $1.40.  

[00:09:09] Unknown:

And you have fiber?  

[00:09:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And I got fiber. Yo. What a deal.  

[00:09:14] Unknown:

What a deal.   So   Well,   so I'm sure both of you have, and I know it's   been on a lot of shows that   Charlie Kirk was assassinated yesterday.  

[00:09:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. And   talked with the veteran today at the VA. I I don't know where he got his video,   but it was shot   at the event.   And I'm talking, like,   within 30 feet of Charlie Cook   or Charlie Kirk,   and it shows.  

[00:09:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. It shows the impact and Yeah. All of the damage.  

[00:09:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It does.   Yeah. I think  

[00:09:58] Unknown:

I think they have I think that one's been taken down.  

[00:10:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it might be. I've got a copy of it. So I've, you know, I've got it for   for   for for,   just anytime I feel like I've not,   not easing up as much as the or easing up a little what the rep might   you know?   If I feel like I wanna go easy, it's like, yeah. No. We're gonna hold on to that. That's gonna be   a that's a that's something that's gonna be held on to because that's   eventually, they're gonna say, no. He was never shot and   be one of those times where you need to whip it out and go, no. See, that's not a freaking that's not a freaking oh, it's it's   a it's a fake shot. So no. You see it   you see the, the the   the nervous system shut down in almost damn near instant. So  

[00:10:51] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well You see that? The  

[00:10:54] Rich Chelson:

back. The, jugular get blown out Yep. With blood.  

[00:10:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. No. It's, it's used to they they   good chance that that thirty aught six went  

[00:11:05] Rich Chelson:

with at least two arteries, if not three, on that side. Well, see, that's the thing. I hadn't found any information about the size of the weapon. All I had been hearing was a high powered rifle, but after seeing the video,   I mean, it was minimum 30 caliber.  

[00:11:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It's a See here. See if I can find the I was thinking out six myself  

[00:11:27] Rich Chelson:

with the damage it did. Right.   It damn sure wasn't a 22.  

[00:11:32] Bryan Goodwin:

No. By far. No.  

[00:11:35] Unknown:

See.   You know, and I saw the video, but, you know,   I'm not gonna save it. I've I've seen it. I watched it twice, and that was plenty enough for me.  

[00:11:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   I watched it once, and I you know, that there,   couple of the articles I've read has said something   that, you know, they think the shooter appears to be college age bullshit.   A fucking a fucking 200 yard shot   that tight   because the neck is not  

[00:12:09] Bryan Goodwin:

is is not an open shot. Yeah. And I think he more likely, he was aiming for whoever it was, was aiming for the head and just it he wouldn't   he wouldn't   he didn't   compensate for some for some drop. But over on ABC News up at, at a at a 200 yards. Yeah. You ain't gonna have any drop.   So ABC News said a mid demand hunt hunt for the subject who's believed to be college age.   Official said Thursday that they're working around the clock to locate the individual. The FBI also said that it has recovered what is believed to be the weapon used in the deadly shooting, a high powered bolt action rifle was recovered in the wooded area near the shooting where near where the shooting   took place according to the lake Salt Lake City FBI special agent Robert Bowles.  

The rifle is an older model imported Mauser 30 aught six,   caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel. Multiple law enforcement sources,   also told ABC News   the location of the firearm appears to match the suspect's route of travel,   the sources said. The call the spit cartridge is still chambered and three unspent cartridges containing wording on them, expressing what's law enforcement officials describe as transgender   and anti fascist writing. So, basically,   he pulled a   Luigi Mangione,   the guy that shot the shot the UnitedHealthcare   CEO   earlier this year?  



[00:13:42] Rich Chelson:

I don't remember hearing about that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:13:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Because he had   he had   three, three rounds in his in his in his gun, and they had   say, here, what was   on   Luigi   Mangione bullet casings.   They had,   had, three bullets, and each one had had either delay, deny, and depose   written on them, referencing the three d's of insurance claims.   So may it looks like this guy was using the same   using the same   the same,   you know, strategy of I've got your name on that bullet type thing.   Unclear   what that means what that means, and authorities are still looking to determine the meaning of whether the markings were intended as a misdirection   or investigators.  

That's ABC going, well, we don't know for because, they're one of the things that the left has been, on the news has been going. It's like, well, we don't know if he is, if he's really a   what's   who he actually   is, and, we don't know what his,   what the motivation was. I was like,   damn. We know what the motivation was.   He accomplished his motive.   And so it was like, no. It's what the motive was.   They did not agree with Charlie Kirk. It's not because there was also they were saying, well, it might be, some of his some of his followers who are really excited and accidentally discharged a weapon.   Yeah. Don't fucking think so. Yeah. It's like, no. For you know,   actually, we're responsible gun owners. We don't just stand around waving our guns around. That's sorry. That's the other side   that likes to do that.  

But, anyhow, the gun in the country just recovered were thrown to the FBI's main laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, and most for most techno technologically advanced forensic analysis,   Law enforcement sources told told ABC News the focus is up to, look for lightened free fingerprints DNA.   The source said, and upon completion of the forensics, the firearms will be disassembled for additional important information.   So   but again, yeah, the guy was   up on top of the they they're   they're at least getting somewhat smart. There's   in that, they're finding high grounds to to   take a shot at. It's just   this time, the guy had a little more training as to, you know, end end of shooting. So  

[00:16:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I don't I don't think it was an everyday citizen. That's just my opinion.   It could've been. It it it very well could be, but I don't think so. Right.  

[00:16:30] Unknown:

I would have to agree with you on the phone, Rich.  

[00:16:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I've been I've been I've been somewhat known on that,   you know, all day. I mean, it is possible,   but,   yeah, something   something doesn't   something's not breathing right. You know what I mean? Right.  

[00:16:48] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:16:50] Rich Chelson:

So   that's why it's just it's like  

[00:16:55] Unknown:

because he would have probably been running for president in about twelve years.  

[00:17:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I just,   yeah, I just think it's wrong that that when okay. I didn't know that was gonna happen.   You know, I just think it's wrong that,   you know,   people,   whoever the person is,   had to thought they had to resort to violence.   Right. Because they freaking disagreed with what someone said.   You know? I mean,   we're sad.   We are sad as a nation   if if   if if we're allowing   this type of behavior.   Right.  

[00:17:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Because who knows? It might have been   that individual at one point in time may have had,   you know, that one on one discussion that they   that Charlie Kirk had   at his   events,   and   Charlie's fucking, you know,   100   disagree with them and,   yeah,   pissed them off.  

[00:18:01] Rich Chelson:

And you see that Or,  

[00:18:03] Unknown:

you know,   embarrassed the hell out of them   Right. Because Charlie Kirk will fucking   he'll pick you apart piece by piece.   Yeah.   And   with facts.  

[00:18:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. With that.  

[00:18:20] Unknown:

Mhmm.   And so that that  

[00:18:24] Rich Chelson:

that freaking goes back to,   in in my eyes, the parents because the parents didn't discipline their children.   You know? And I'm not I'm not saying,   you know, capital punishment or anything.   There's there are many ways to,   say a discipline and raise children.   But, you   know,   that person did who did   it either was paid   or   if it was a student,   they were just let to run wild and and to do whatever they want and express themselves however they want.  

[00:19:00] Unknown:

You know, I think it I think it's much more like   a hit than anything else.  

[00:19:06] Rich Chelson:

Alright?   I tend to lean to that side.   Again, I could be wrong, but  

[00:19:14] Unknown:

I don't know. Yeah. We can we can   conspiracy   theorist the hell out of it. Oh, yeah.   You should You know, the but it I'm not doing it. I don't conspiracy   theory shit.   You know, I may have a   whistleblower,   word I'm looking for, not opinion,   but a common sense   common sense opinion.   You know, I don't say that just because, hey. This is what I wanna say. You know,   having this conversation, you know, what I've said, it has been thought out. It's like,   you know,   common sense.   But, again,   how long did it take for them to   bring out the, JFK   files?  



[00:20:00] Rich Chelson:

Sixty   two years.  

[00:20:02] Unknown:

Yep. And what did it what did it basically come down to?  

[00:20:07] Rich Chelson:

Freaking government did it. The government?  

[00:20:10] Unknown:

Yeah.   Took the hit or   created   the situation   for to make the hit.   Yeah.  

[00:20:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:20:21] Unknown:

Well, I think it's   you know, I think this was a   a hit.  

[00:20:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's  

[00:20:29] Unknown:

Because he was getting too many followers,   you know, getting   getting too big in   in that person and or that group's mind,   so he had to be contained.  

[00:20:44] Rich Chelson:

That's   that's my leaning right there. He was too popular.  

[00:20:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.   Well, I mean, that's that is a possibility, but   at the same time,   I'm not I can't   can't fully see   that.   I mean, I'm I I can't make that that particularly.   I could see that yeah. I mean, there   would there be some, you know, nefarious   organizations going, yep. Yep. Yep. He's getting too big. He's getting too popular. We need to take him out. I mean   yeah. But it would   and it Yeah. I mean, it's You know? The   the Local.   You know, that   Salt Lake City Communist   Party,   you know, something maybe like that, some little some little group that   feature who envisions themselves as being, you know, a,   the the   the birthplace of the next   revolution.  

But   as a as a whole, no. I think this was probably just a lone dude who took all the rhetoric   that the left says   to heart.   Right? And thought, oh, well, I need to take this guy down, which, I mean, I'm I'm a firm believer that   that liberalism is a is a mental disorder.   Yeah.  

[00:22:02] Rich Chelson:

But I don't know. Argue that point, would you?  

[00:22:06] Bryan Goodwin:

But it's it's a   it I think it was more of   if there are there are conspirators, there's probably two, you know, maybe three.   Right. But I don't think it's I don't think it's a whole, you know,   part plot by by, you know,   a quarter of the   of the of the college,   college student population, you know, or even, you know, 75%   of the college student population, the way they're cranking them out these days.  

[00:22:36] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. But but you see, you see,   you   I don't know. You see, that's the thing because   most of your college students are are   are definitely scared of guns.   You know?   I mean, they just they just don't wanna I mean, they even see the hint of a of a water gun,   and they wanna, you know,   scream and run.   Right.   You know? So that I mean, that's   I don't know. It just and and   liberalism being a mental problem,   no.   That that I can't agree with   because of the fact   that   thinking   that way is a choice.   And and   if it's if it's if it's a mental disorder,   it's   you kinda have a choice, I guess, but not really a choice. You know? Do you understand what I mean?  



[00:23:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[00:23:36] Rich Chelson:

So that's that's why that's why I can't I can't get behind   that statement that,   you know, it's a mental disorder   because they choose to think like that.  

[00:23:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, a lot of them do, but at the same time, they   are fed this,   and they're they're   doing the one thing that, have has always been told, get them when they're young.  

[00:24:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:24:02] Bryan Goodwin:

So and they and they do. They there it was evident during   during the Biden era when,   you know, everybody was talking about, well, why does a five year old need a book on masturbation?   Why does a   five year old need a book on gender studies?   Yeah.   Starting, you know, start there with just these little kiddie books   and   working their way up, and then you've got you know,   we all saw videos of the teachers who had the   every every left wing   ideology   flag up in their room and   and   and, you know,   they're not being taught math.   No. And they're because, I mean, they'll they're not being taught to read. I mean, more kids more of the kids these days   are struggling to even read coming out with, like, a third, fourth, fifth grade level reading   skill, and they're they're high schoolers.  

Yeah.   Kids are are struggling to read, and that's because, again, teachers   aren't doing their job. They're all excited and got the got their,   the like, in their bean over the fact that, hey. We get to talk about we get to indoctrinate these kids. And do I think that there's teachers out there that are that are like that? Yes. Do I also think that there are a good deal of teachers who are just trying to trying to make a living and just trying to   get   get what,   make sure that they get yeah. They're well, minimalist. They're just they're trying to   try to teach the kid this the, the subject that they're assigned.  

Yeah. And I think the majority of teachers are are some really incredible teachers who truly   love   the calling of of of of educating.   Yeah. Yeah. I think there are those they're out there too. I think we've got still got some some younger teachers that are younger than us,   but still have the same   thought as,   you know, missus Reisner who had, which I, you know, I couldn't tell you what missus Reisner's ideology was.   I couldn't even tell I couldn't even tell you if she was married or not.   And   that's because husband's a good teacher. Well, yeah. Poetically speaking,   she kept her shit to herself.  



[00:26:27] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[00:26:28] Bryan Goodwin:

And that's the way   most people   education needs to be. It needs to be   education or it needs to be political free,   but   you have   the radicalized   and this is where I point my the finger at the at the at Gen X.   It is   the the the onslaught   of of communist,   socialist, communist   teachers that are in school these days   is on our shoulders.   It's not that we   want our kids to be   communist socialist. I mean, we have those   in our   in our   in our midst. I mean, I have friends who are you know, I've got one friend   who I grew up with,   and she has she is   well embraced woke.  

She's a teacher too,   but   it is one of those   there there are those those, you know, those left leaning   Gen Xers out there.   But You know?   But, again, we what us Gen Xers failed to do was to be   vigilant   about the communists   when,   like like,   everything else that we've ever seen. Once the you know, once we defeated communism, sweet.   They now know that communism   sucks balls, and no one needs to be no one needs to be a communist because, you know,   now all the, all the communists   are realizing,   holy smokes. Why? You get to have some pretty cool shit whenever you're you're in capitalism.   You get to work and you get you don't you're not stuck on being being broke all the time. You're not spending your whole day standing in a bread line hoping that you were you, you're at least not the very last one to get the,   the first one of the of the no bread people.  

Yeah.   And   so those who were in   East Germany,   those who were in   in Russia, I mean, they got to realize, holy smokes, man. This is pretty cool.   Everything that we are being told was an absolute total lie   and got to see and and   are one of the greatest some those folks are some of the greatest proponents for, and for for capitalism.   While, you know, we've got we've got   blue haired septum pierced   lesbian wannabes   running around,   not, yeah, in congress, but not even in congress, but just, you know, in   in, in society   who thinks that we are out to we have gone off and sold sold our children to build goods that   that they're never going to   and they're never going to be able to own a house or or or never be able   to find happiness.  

Well,   you are.   The trick though is that one, we have to do the really uncomfortable thing,   and next time the housing market falls, let it fall.  

[00:29:41] Rich Chelson:

We did that in a way, dude. No. We didn't.  

[00:29:44] Bryan Goodwin:

They were they brought the banks up. They didn't let the banks   actually fail. Oh,   yeah.   You had   the whichever   there was one of the large banks that that went under, and then all of a sudden, they did the   George w Bush   for all the good that he did. He went out and was like, alright. Well, here's a whole bunch of money for the banks so the banks don't put fail. No. Let the banks fail.   Let them fall. Let the it it's not comfortable. We haven't had   a an actual   economic depression   in a century.   Coming up on a century, actually, not a full century, but we're coming up on it.   And before then,   we   had fairly regular depressions.  

There was actually a depression at the beginning of the night, the roaring twenties.   Did you know that?   No. Yeah. They had a depression   in the twenties,   and everything they did to reverse that, to to reverse the the depression   led into the rolling twenties.   K. And so   there is and it it didn't last no ten years. It lasted, like,   two, I think.   But we had naturally have   a cycle,   economically speaking,   to where you're going to have   a growing prosperity. You're gonna have a great prosperity. Then you're gonna have a recession, and it's gonna go into into which is basically fall. And from fall, you're gonna have this barren winter   session   where things start leveling out or actually get leveled out   and get back under their feet for the for the good times to come rolling back.  

And, again, this is another problem   with   with when the government gets in the way of economic   means.   When you the government lets   lets a hedge funds, the companies go off and   buy up   a huge   swath of homes   and property   for higher than value prices, which is what happened.   Yeah.   Most of most of gen, gen z   or most of the millennials and men and and   and the vast majority of Gen z is going to struggle   to buy a house.   I still go and work, and I'm   around down in Central Texas.   And to buy a a   single wide trailer house   on a little   I mean, under an acre of land, and they're still screaming for a $100.  

Mhmm. It's like, no. Yeah. That's   that's   bullshit. Yeah. I know the government loves it because the government's going off and collecting their   their their sliding scale rent from the from the property owner   or the property renter, technically.   And so, yeah, the government has lost, you know, has lost their their way. They don't lead, like,   let people live their life that they that they,   have a potential to get to,   But because they   because the government has done   socialistic   actions, like, you know, doing some type of some price control. Saint Paul was the re most recent one who was here recently   become the city with the most aggressive   price with, fixing and price controls   on on housing.  

And they quickly realized what they screwed up on and, because what you end up doing is when   you have   a you have someone   set up price controls on a on a   on   a an apartment, they can only raise. Like, the one here to Saint Paul, what they ended up doing is they passed a   a a resolution or a law or ordinance that's worked   for, on   on   apartments   that   they can't be when someone comes in and rents, you cannot   raise that rent   more than 3%.   So you get people who   stick to   one, it doesn't it doesn't incentivize   them to move out because   if they leave get up and leave,   then that that apartment that they were in, that's when they get to try they they get to raise the price.  

You wanna get a a get a more of a, of a better value from the, from that apartment? Well, you gotta find some way of getting this person to move out of the apartment   so that you can then rent have somebody come in and rent it for a higher amount   instead of letting the prices naturally rise up, which if you're if you're   having scarcity in housing, then, yeah, the prices are gonna go up.   And what you need to do is you need to allow for   more housing   to be installed. That's one reason why San Francisco's so damn expensive because everybody's all worried about the homeless. They oh, there's a there's a homeless problem. There's there where there's a housing shortage.   Well, we're gonna put a, an apartment complex. Oh, no. You can't put an apartment here, not in my backyard.  

And so they   set these, you know, these restrictions up, and all of a sudden, you can't you can't get an apartment. And so the prices you know, the the cost of living   flies through the roof, and the people who are already at apartments, they're not going to try to move   because the next place they move to is going to be a higher gonna cost   closer to actual market value.   And so you have you have the birth of the slumlords showing up.   They're not going to increase the   the the benefits of of living in this apartment complex because,   one, they're not making much money off of it. Cost of living is still going up, but, you know, I can all you know, went up 12%, and I've I could only raise it by three, so I'm losing a shit ton of money now.  

So they're not they're doing everything they can to incentivize to try to incentivize the person you know, the tenants to move out so they can raise their prices.   So you get the slump, and they're they're not fixing things.   They're using secondhand stuff. They're, you know, running the housing into slums.   And so it it's a it's a when you take   open market out of stuff, things become crappier. The government can't help but destroy stuff.   And that's that's the the it's not an anti government rant that I'm on because we do need the government. We need the government to be able to   protect our   actual   rights. Doesn't mean that the government gets to bestow us rights,   but they're there to   protect our rights.  

They're the government is there to protect   us.  

[00:36:47] Rich Chelson:

And You know that hasn't been happening   for a long while.  

[00:36:52] Bryan Goodwin:

No. Not I mean, especially not in the cities. No.   Some of the smaller towns are have still got a lot of that where they are   because they they're the closest to the actual community.   When you're in the small towns like my hometown,   you know, you're gonna get a lot of people who   they know what they they'll go up and they'll talk to to to the mayor   Right. And give them a give them a walk for if all of a sudden, you know, they raise   water,   the the water fee to, to something astronomical.   Just throwing something in there. There's nothing I don't know of that's going on like that, but   I haven't I haven't delved into into hometown   politics in in forever. So  

[00:37:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But still, you see, that's the thing, though. You know? I mean, yeah, that's fine in in hometown politics, but that's normally where it stays. Some people might take it to the state level.   Okay. And that's fine too.   But   that's   it. Right. I mean, yes yes. People do call every day to their senators and and   congressmen and all like that, but truly, honestly,   how much gets done?   You know?  

[00:38:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Not much. That's   you know, it it is a it is better of not what you know, but who you know. And   It shouldn't be that way, but it is. Right. So And and it shouldn't. But, again, it is. It's it's just   when it comes to government, that's just how government operates is. Oh, well, okay. I've got I made it into  

[00:38:28] Rich Chelson:

You see, though, per the constitution?   That's treasonous.   It's wrong.   We Well We, the people, have the power   to   fix it,  

[00:38:40] Bryan Goodwin:

but we don't wanna be bothered with it. Well, no. Because most of us are too busy,   you know, doing   what doing what the, what the constitution says or, you know, or or the declaration of independence.   Go on for, you know, pursuing life, liberty, and the and the pursuit of happiness. We're that's what we're after.   And so yeah. Then that's why   when we find   a   a a,   when when we find a problem with with   something that is infringing upon our rights, that's when we throw start throwing a big fit. And we get louder the more people start   to press against   that that right that limit of our of our rights.  



[00:39:25] Rich Chelson:

We should have been throwing a fit for the past thirty years then. Oh, yeah. We should have. Come on now. I mean I mean, because   our our   our right afforded   to us by,   you know, the Bill of Rights, Constitution, whatever you wanna you know, whichever documents you wanna use,   okay,   the government has been infringing   on those for  

[00:39:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh,   especially since since February.  

[00:39:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, even in the '90.  

[00:39:56] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? No. There's still it's some in the nineties, but, I mean, it was it was a big leap forward   when when, the Patriot Act came about.  

[00:40:05] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.   And   yeah.   But see, that's you see, that's the thing.   But, yeah,   every everyone wants to jump on one small little thing and raise a big fuss over it   instead   of going after   the the problem. With a solution, I'm not saying balance is the answer   because, you know, we don't need it.   We can get shit done. Just walk in and say you're fired. Get the hell out.   You know?  

[00:40:37] Unknown:

Yep. But  

[00:40:39] Rich Chelson:

that's not what people are gonna do. They're just gonna sit and bitch and bitch and bitch and stress and   just   get up and go to work the next day. Because   if they don't show up to work, they don't get paid, and   that's our life. You know? So,   you know, if that's what people wanna do, that's fine, but stop your fucking bitching then.   You know?   I'll say what's on my mind,   and I don't care if people like me or not.  

[00:41:06] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:41:08] Rich Chelson:

But   that's just my 2¢ on that. Let's get 2¢.   I might have three later if I think about it long enough.   But don't push for four because you ain't getting four.  

[00:41:24] Unknown:

I bet you if we poke the bear hard enough, we'll get fucking five.  

[00:41:28] Rich Chelson:

I don't know.   I'm wore out, like I said, dude. You know, 04:30 this morning being up and then leaving the house by 06:30 so I could   hopefully   I I was I was hoping to get there,   have them fix my partials,   and then,   you know, I could just come back home and be okay. But,   you know, if I could've stayed there till 11:30,   you know, I'd have been fine. But   the Internet guy   was coming between twelve and two,   and he showed up about, I don't know, twenty after one. So   he was in his window.  

[00:42:05] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:42:07] Rich Chelson:

So that's why   because the nurse asked me if I could stay, and I said, actually, I can't. You know? Because, I mean, knowing my luck, if I would have stayed   and left right shortly after, you know, 11:30,   I wouldn't gotten home till 12:45.   And knowing my luck, it would have been early.   Right?   So that's why I was like,   oh,   I can't. I says I've got another appointment.   And,   I says,   I was thinking real quick. I'm like, I can come back tomorrow because I really want my parcel.   Yeah.  

[00:42:42] Bryan Goodwin:

So Kinda nice being able to eat.  

[00:42:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It is.  

[00:42:46] Bryan Goodwin:

And and and you doesn't feel like your face is falling in. So  

[00:42:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because yeah. You know, having   not not having   my partials and having that space up front there is   that has really been driving me up a wall. Right.   I mean, at night, you know, when I take my partials out,   it at night, it doesn't bother me because I, you know, I I consciously   take them out.   So, you know, I expect that. But,   you know, like like I say yesterday when that that hot AT and T sales girl came and talked to me.   My partials were broke. They weren't in my mouth.   And I'm sitting there, you know,   trying to So consciously going, you know? God. Don't look at my face. Don't look at my face. I hate. Right? I was like I was like, you know, I mean I mean, this girl was young and whatever, but still, it's the fact that, you know, I'm I'm I'm vain about this stuff.  

You know? I mean, not saying not saying  

[00:43:46] Bryan Goodwin:

I had a snowball's chance in hell with her. It's just wasn't being about it. But still, you know, but at the same time,   you any type of   of pride. It doesn't matter whether you're it's male pride or female pride.   Right. It is it is pride in in   in yourself. You take pride in who you are.   Mhmm. And when you don't   have don't have the partials in, you know, that's a   that's a slide upon   who you are. You show up a 100% of who you are. And   at that time, your 100%   didn't meet the level of what   you approve of. And so, yeah, you wouldn't you wouldn't be wouldn't be proud to be seen like that.  

[00:44:31] Rich Chelson:

Right. And then, yeah, that's why that's why it just you know, it's just like, that's why I said, I will come back tomorrow   and get them. You know?   Right.  

[00:44:43] Unknown:

So with not having them in at night doesn't affect your mask fitting?  

[00:44:48] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No? Okay. No. Because they, I mean I mean, it's just three teeth up front. I've got the rest of them. Them. Yeah. Oh, I know. So   yeah. No. It doesn't   no. It doesn't mess mess with it at all.  

[00:45:04] Unknown:

Oh, that's good.  

[00:45:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   At first   at first,   when I first had all them teeth pulled, though,   I really had to brush my teeth because if I didn't,   I guess I guess little bits of food would get worked around, you know, if I had my mask on. And it would Oh, yeah. It would make, like, an air pocket, and it'd freaking wake me up.   Yeah. Because   the air   that was getting blown in was   was like,   you know, a freaking tunnel or something. Or it was Yeah. Yeah. Because it's pressurized air.   Yeah. And it's it's like, oh my god. It woke me up. So it's like, I had to make sure every night that I brushed my teeth before I went to bed,   you know, just in case a little piece of food  

[00:45:52] Bryan Goodwin:

got in the wrong place. Dislodged and all of a sudden   Right. Yeah.  

[00:45:57] Rich Chelson:

So   that happened once or twice, and I was like, yeah. No. I'm good.  

[00:46:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I'm nuts.   That's a   that would be a bit on the annoying side for sure.   It's like that.   I'm kinda sleep here. I don't need my   don't need to attack the broccoli.  

[00:46:17] Rich Chelson:

I know. Dude, it's just rude. It is. It's been rude.   You know? I mean, you'd be sleeping good, and then all of a sudden,   a little piece of broccoli just hitting   the next spot.   And then it feels like you got just a jet stream of air going right into a nerve.   Your Oh, wow. Okay. Instantly   come open.  

[00:46:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:46:43] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That mask comes off pretty quick.   What the fuck?   Then   once you wake up after saying that, then you're like, yeah. I know what I need to do.   So   but the good thing is they,   they set it up to where I could   claim travel pay today.   Oh, really good. Yeah. I was shocked because I, I had I had sent a message to my nurse because one of my, prescriptions   didn't have any refills.   I'm like, yo. Hey. I need this refilled.   And, I was looking on the VA app. It says, you have one trouble claim to   to, claim.   Let me look.  

[00:47:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Like, hell, yeah. Got a lot of money.  

[00:47:27] Rich Chelson:

I will have in a couple days. But Oh, yeah.   But and and what's nice, though, is is   you can go on the VA's app.   And before, you would have to go to the travel website,   the VA's travel website,   submit your claim, and blah blah blah. Now you do it all right there in the app.   It's couple buttons,   check a box,   hit the last button.   We're reviewing your claim.   I see.   Two, three days,   money is in your account.   Yeah. Yeah. It makes it nice from, what it because you see before,   see, before with travel pay, VA didn't have a limit on it. Right?   Right.  

I mean,   you know, if you had, you know, if you had   a travel claim from   six, eight months ago, you could still claim it.   Well,   the VA came through and said, yeah. No. You have to do it within thirty days of of your appointment   ending.  

[00:48:29] Unknown:

Oh, hell.  

[00:48:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So once you go to that appointment, you got thirty days to   claim travel pay. If you don't claim it, you lose it, which I get   it. So that's why it's   you know? And I'm not I wasn't looking to claim Travelpay today. But when the offer was in there,   guess what?  

[00:48:51] Bryan Goodwin:

I claimed it. Exactly. He ain't gonna he ain't gonna, to poo poo a couple bucks.  

[00:48:56] Rich Chelson:

No. Y'all know. I mean, shoot. I think they give me,   like, $17   for a round trip.   So yeah. Okay.  

[00:49:08] Unknown:

Pays for your gas.  

[00:49:10] Rich Chelson:

That and and a little bit more because I don't use $17 in gas   going to Biloxi and back.  

[00:49:17] Unknown:

Well, yeah, that's true.  

[00:49:19] Rich Chelson:

You know, I I might use   6,   maybe 7.  

[00:49:24] Unknown:

Well, there you go. Then you can take yourself out to dinner.  

[00:49:27] Rich Chelson:

No. I have to worry about punk ass.  

[00:49:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Damn dog. Well, just bring her a little bit of a po'boy sandwich, and she'll be okay.  

[00:49:36] Rich Chelson:

Bite your tongue.   Didn't come from a share po'boy sandwich.  

[00:49:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. You love her, you will.   I You mean you mean mean man?   Yeah. Not sharing any food with her. Nothing like that.   No. That's abuse.  

[00:49:54] Rich Chelson:

No. It ain't.  

[00:49:57] Bryan Goodwin:

No. It ain't.  

[00:49:58] Unknown:

Like I said last week, eventually   eventually  

[00:50:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Rich Rich is gonna be paying cheese tax. Yep. He's gonna he's gonna have he's gonna start setting aside two finger wide pieces,   of of po'boy.   He's just gonna slice that just cut that out, and he's gonna set that off to the side, and that'll be,   I I I'm   sorry I had to leave without you there.  

[00:50:22] Rich Chelson:

Nope.   Sorry. Nope. Not happening.   Not not my po'boys.   That just   that's just not dog food.   It it isn't.   It is prime dog food.   Yeah.   No.   I do.   That.  

[00:50:40] Unknown:

You're gonna sleep one day. You're gonna you're gonna sleep one day, and you're gonna give her,   you know, half of you know, just a half a piece of cheese,   and that'll be it.  

[00:50:51] Rich Chelson:

I you know, I don't know.   I don't know. She's   it's just not real big into   human food.   I mean, I haven't really tried, but, you know, and that's the thing. Bella doesn't ask either.   You know?  

[00:51:05] Unknown:

Well, that's good.  

[00:51:07] Rich Chelson:

I mean, she's more worried about   you know, if I take one step that that might be out of her sight   Yeah. She has to have her nose up my crotch knowing where I'm going.   You know, it's like, damn, dog. I'm just going to the bathroom.   Let me follow you in and see. Sure. Yeah. Figure that. And then Yeah. That yeah. That's and that's that's their job.  

[00:51:32] Unknown:

No.   Yeah. Okay.   Bullshit. That that is her job   to make sure she knows where you're at at all times.   Well, look at the aspect the last time you had her in the Jeep,   and   she didn't wanna leave out of the fucking Jeep.  

[00:51:50] Rich Chelson:

Right?  

[00:51:51] Unknown:

So she   that is when you know   that you truly have their love and respect.  

[00:52:01] Rich Chelson:

Well, sometimes I like a a quiet moment to myself.  

[00:52:06] Unknown:

That doesn't fit with the fucking narrative   of love and respect.   Go ask Bella. It doesn't fit her narrative.  

[00:52:16] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[00:52:18] Unknown:

And she's gonna   and I know that she's you said she's not very boisterous   No. Of a dog.  

[00:52:26] Rich Chelson:

Well But You know, it's funny since I, you know, fence you know,   put that fence up for   her. In the house, Bella doesn't really play.   But get her outside,   oh my god. She'll play with the balls,   sticks,   water bottles,   you know, that are watered up. I mean, she'll just have a freaking field to do with that. But in the house, no. She won't. And I've tried to get her to play with that stuff.  

[00:52:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[00:52:56] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, outside,   oh my god.   I know it would just go and go and go, so she   can hardly breathe.   Then she finally stops.  

[00:53:08] Unknown:

No. I have I have forgotten all about that fencing. How   does it give her a pretty good size area to run around with?  

[00:53:17] Rich Chelson:

That's about the size of my house now.  

[00:53:20] Unknown:

Really?  

[00:53:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:53:22] Unknown:

Wow.  

[00:53:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It looks like   16 feet   from being   the size of my house   and square footage wise.  

[00:53:33] Unknown:

Wow.   That's a lot of room to run.  

[00:53:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. She does too   when I'm out there.   When I'm not out there,   she didn't do nothing.   Once in a while, she will,   but very rarely.  

[00:53:48] Unknown:

Well, again, she's probably getting used to the fence and,   you know,   the new   abilities.  

[00:53:57] Rich Chelson:

I don't feel that seem to bother her. I mean, she still didn't bark much.   So   But when she does, it gets everyone's attention.  

[00:54:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[00:54:07] Rich Chelson:

You know, a lot of times, you know, she barks.   It just kinda yelps a little bit.   And then after a few times, you don't hear anything.  

[00:54:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Shit. They're not paying attention anyhow, so I might as well just shut up.  

[00:54:25] Rich Chelson:

Well well, sometimes it's almost scary.   You know? Because, like like, this morning when I went to the VA,   you know, I put Bella in her account because I knew I would only be gone a couple hours at the most.   And,   as I was getting in the Jeep,   she was barking a little bit.   And,   yeah, after that,   now she just quiets up and doesn't   doesn't say much.   And and then I get home,   and she,   just looks at me like, okay. Let me out now.   Then, of course,   see if she had to jump on me.   Of course.   So   but she is smart as a whip   because she will get on the top step of the back porch   and try and open that freaking door.  

Stand up on her hind legs.   She can reshot doorknob.   And I did not teach her that.  

[00:55:25] Unknown:

What? Trying to use   basically trying to let herself back in. Right?  

[00:55:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Because oh my god. Dad's inside.   Oh, yeah.  

[00:55:35] Unknown:

Oh, wow.   Yeah.  

[00:55:38] Rich Chelson:

She's smart.   She's very smart.  

[00:55:41] Unknown:

So is she still sleeping on the couch?  

[00:55:44] Rich Chelson:

No. I've got her in her in   at night, I, put her in her kennel   because,   left her out one night, and she,   woke up next morning, and she decided   to use the bathroom.   And it's like,  

[00:56:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. They like to most dogs like to go to the bathroom around 04:30, 05:00 in the morning.  

[00:56:07] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, it's like,   no. You see, that's the thing.   You know   you know, before,   now I'd sleep till whenever you know, get up whenever. Now I'm up by   and I'm normally up before my alarm goes off, but I'm up by 06:30 every morning   Right. Just because of that.   You know?   It ain't 04:30 or 05:30, but, you know, I figured I'll I'll sleep till 06:30,   you know, and then get up,   let her go potty, then feed her and all like that. You know?   Mhmm.   But,   yeah, it's like, uh-uh. I I'm not   I'm not cleaning up   dog piss and dog shit every morning. Not gonna happen.  

[00:56:50] Bryan Goodwin:

I understand.  

[00:56:52] Rich Chelson:

So and and it just and, I mean, it doesn't hurt her to be in her kennel.  

[00:56:56] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. It's just a little uncomfortable.  

[00:56:59] Rich Chelson:

No. She has more than enough room in her No. No. No. No. No.  

[00:57:03] Bryan Goodwin:

How uncomfortable are you when you have to pee and you can't?  

[00:57:08] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. I get that.  

[00:57:10] Bryan Goodwin:

So that's what I mean by a little more. I'm just a little uncomfortable.  

[00:57:14] Rich Chelson:

So   Well, at the most, she's waiting,   what,   hour, hour and a half?  

[00:57:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Because Possible. Yeah.  

[00:57:22] Rich Chelson:

I've got I've got my alarm set for 06:30, and I'm normally up by six.   And I don't and I don't tell myself to get up at that time either.  

[00:57:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. That's just that's that's you having   normal,   you know, normal biological   clock  

[00:57:41] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:57:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Response. You   you end up you know, I'm gonna get up at 06:30 in the morning.   Well, most people who are   able to set their set their   wake up at that time,   wake up about   05:10 minutes early.  

[00:57:59] Rich Chelson:

Right?  

[00:58:01] Bryan Goodwin:

So that's that's just   our   our   just one of the really cool things about how human bodies   and minds work   is that   we often do. We wake up, you know, five, ten minutes early. We   I think what happens a lot of times, we do little micro wake ups where we're laying there, and we wake up just enough to see what the clock is. Okay. Okay. Okay.   Okay. Okay. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we got ten minutes. Let's get up. Alright. So  

[00:58:32] Unknown:

Yeah.   Not not this body.  

[00:58:36] Rich Chelson:

Dude gets But   Drinks coffee, has a cigarette, and goes back to bed.  

[00:58:41] Unknown:

Right. On the fucking weekends?   You damn fucking right.   And and during the week, when that alarm clock goes off,   it'll go off, like,   three, four, five times.   And I'm like,   fuck.   Alright.   I get my fucking ass out of bed and go to work.   Yeah. I'm not a I'm not a first ring   of the alarm talk type individual.   No.   Never have been in my life   that type of person.   Now is   it too late in life to start?   Well, absolutely not.   However, I'm not fucking going to.   I will get up Saturday morning,   make myself a mug or fucking tumbler of coffee,   have a couple smokes, and take my ass back to bed.  

And sometimes that   I'll go back to sleep, and   I won't wake up until fucking 11:00   or noon.  

[00:59:45] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.  

[00:59:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:59:48] Rich Chelson:

I've lost three fourths a day that way. Oh, yeah. No. I I can't do that either. I might not do anything   all morning.   You know?  

[00:59:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Still At least be awake. Yeah. Right. Yeah.  

[01:00:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Fuck that.   His partner just to   snooze.  

[01:00:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Then I wake up refreshed.   Then what?  

[01:00:12] Unknown:

Then I wake up refreshed.   But having that alarm clock go off, no.   Never not one time   have I beat my alarm clock   to getting up.  

[01:00:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I can't say that.  

[01:00:31] Unknown:

And now I say that tomorrow, I'll fucking beat the alarm clock.  

[01:00:35] Rich Chelson:

That'd be funny.   You know?  

[01:00:38] Unknown:

Yeah. But I'm gonna get up, go take pee, and   go back until that motherfucker goes,   get up, motherfucker.  

[01:00:48] Rich Chelson:

See, I've I've I've got a an annoying alarm,   and, I mean, it jolts me awake.   So   when that thing goes off, there ain't no way I'm getting back to sleep.   I I mean,   I I've done I've done I've done jumped two foot up off the bed   just because I was snoozing.  

[01:01:11] Unknown:

Uh-huh.  

[01:01:12] Rich Chelson:

And that thing decided to go off. No.  

[01:01:15] Unknown:

Yeah. No.   I'll   however, I can't do that this Saturday.  

[01:01:21] Rich Chelson:

What's that?  

[01:01:23] Unknown:

However, I can't do that this Saturday.  

[01:01:26] Rich Chelson:

Why?  

[01:01:26] Unknown:

Because I already told somebody   that they're gonna go wheeling.  

[01:01:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Cool. Kicked you out.  

[01:01:34] Rich Chelson:

Where are you going wheeling at?  

[01:01:36] Unknown:

They got a new place around here called Domo.  

[01:01:39] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Okay.  

[01:01:41] Unknown:

And it's   not a bad park, but it's not   they don't have the   rock climbing,   a lot of rock climbing obstacles   to do   yet.   However,   we had one guy when I went out there   three weeks ago.   I think it was three weekends ago or two weekends ago.   And this was the last   minute   that noticed thing because I declined,   you know, a couple of times with the one of the Jeep clubs I'm with   going out to Domo.   And so   this one was a last minute thing, and I said, yeah. I'd go out there, and then they post pictures. And, of course,   I get one individual. It's like, oh, you'll go with those guys, but you won't come out there with us. I'm like, god. I didn't. Word just fucking travels fast, doesn't it? Jesus.   So   so we had a,   kinda like a   Jeep invasion   in Killeen   last Saturday night.  

I don't know. There's probably about   a 100   about a 100 Jeeps   that came out for it. And it's just basically   there wasn't any charge for you to come out and, you know, hang out and let people look at your Jeeps. But   there wasn't a very big   crowd   coming outside   of   the Jeep community.   You know? And they had a couple of high school bands,   you know, doing doing their routines,   but there wasn't a lot of,   you know, just civilians coming out to book.  

[01:03:27] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:03:29] Unknown:

Maybe they'll improve it next year. Who knows?   You know, get a little bit more   word out.   But, you know, that was fun.  

[01:03:38] Rich Chelson:

So But, yeah, I think it's they'll start someplace.  

[01:03:42] Unknown:

Yeah.   So the leader of the other group that I'm in is like, well, we're going to Domo   next week.   You going?   I'm like,   you know, as we're all sitting around as a group. And I'm like, yeah. I don't know yet.   She's like, yeah.   You'll go with the other group, but you ain't gonna go with us?   That   that's not nice. I'm like, you know,   okay.   And then when I said that, she was like,   say it again so everybody here can hear you.   Say that say that you're coming.   So   because if I say I'm coming, I'm gonna go.   You know?   Right.   And then   when   I got home, the event was up on the   on the Jeep page, and, yeah, I clicked on that I was going.  

So it's like, okay. There. There's officially   your   sign.   Then I'm going out next weekend.   So Saturday, I can't sleep in because I gotta go wheeling.  

[01:04:55] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's cool. But  

[01:04:56] Unknown:

but we had and, yes, there's   they don't have as   challenging of obstacles now. They do have some obstacles   because one of the guys   that I was with   two or three Saturdays ago whenever we went out there   broke   his driver's side   rear axle   on   the   the trail is called Bonnie And Clyde   Because to get out of this   at the end of the trail, you have to either go up   this steep slope   or that steep slope.   You either have to go out Bonnie's side or Clyde's side. I don't know which side he went out of, but he broke his rear axle.   The previous time he went out to this park,   he broke his rear axle. Same axle.  

Two times in a row of going out to this park.   I'm   like, damn. You're getting that's getting to be fucking expensive.  

[01:06:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   For sure.  

[01:06:03] Unknown:

Because Chromoly   axle shafts are not fucking cheap.   I think mine and the TJ were, like, a 100 and   $140   per axle.   So, basically,   $280   up front and then $280   in the back.   Right.   You know? That gets expensive awfully quick.   So   and he wasn't   he I think in the reason why is because he bounced   trying to go up the obstacle.   And as soon as he bounced   and came back down, oh, you heard it snap   because of all the all the torque when he bounced.  

[01:06:51] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:06:52] Unknown:

So,   yeah, Domo does not like his Jeep whatsoever.  

[01:06:58] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. It went in a park. He bounced it.   You don't bounce.  

[01:07:03] Unknown:

No. You don't bounce. You don't bounce.  

[01:07:06] Rich Chelson:

Jeeps don't bounce too well.  

[01:07:09] Unknown:

No. They don't.  

[01:07:10] Rich Chelson:

You know? I mean, that's why I don't bounce my Jeep.  

[01:07:14] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. I I   I resemble that remark. I don't bounce mine either.  

[01:07:21] Rich Chelson:

You know? I'm starting to I'm not saying I never bounced it, but   I got lucky and didn't break anything.  

[01:07:28] Unknown:

Right. Because   you stopped   applying pressure on the skinny panel   and started applying pressure on the brakes.   Right. Right. Yeah. He didn't do that.   He just   kept applying pressure on the skinny pedal.  

[01:07:43] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, by god, you gotta send it somehow. Right?  

[01:07:47] Unknown:

Yeah. Pretty. Yeah.   Once in a while, you just have to   send it.   Right.   So me and   Dave went to the other side,   which was actually   slickier   because you weren't getting any traction because we had gone through the mud because there's a lot of water holes at this particular park.   And, yeah, it was real slickery.   So   even at 12 pounds of pressure and he was at five because he has beadlocks.   Was not was not getting up that   that obstacle,   so   he got winched.   And then when I tried that because I wasn't gonna go up the side that   set broke his axle on,   and   I wasn't getting any traction.  

Nope. Just stopped and said winch it.   That's what we got them for.   I know I'm a proud wheeler, but   I ain't fucking dumb.   If the ability is there, I'm gonna use the tools at hand.   That way I don't break a knuckle axle.   Yeah.   Yeah. So last night, well, I didn't join   the chat last night because I went to bed at fucking,   like, 08:55   last night.   I   I was freaking just   dog tired.   And tomorrow, I have to go   troubleshoot some equipment   when I get to the branch that I am delivering to   to see why   they're having an issue with these   cryogenic   vessels.  

Yeah. I can understand   one having a problem with the with the gas line.   I can have I can understand one vessel having that problem.   But when you have four,   no.   You don't we don't have four that fail at one location.   No.   That does not happen.   So I get to troubleshoot all that tomorrow.  

[01:09:52] Rich Chelson:

Sorry, guys. I had to let my furry   shadow in.  

[01:09:58] Unknown:

That's all good.  

[01:09:59] Rich Chelson:

And and it was funny. I let her in. Right?   And   he comes tearing through the house and   and then and and, I mean, just comes I mean, running right past me and then jumps on the couch and sitting there. And, I mean, while I was up, you know, I went to the restroom.   Came back out, and I said I said, I'm going back here. Are you coming?   And she jumps off the couch. I stopped in the kitchen, grabbed the headache powder, and she comes running right past me, didn't even see me,   and and and was almost back here to the   computer room. And then she stopped and was like, oh, shit. There's dad.  



[01:10:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Dad. Dad. Dad. Dad. Oh, there you are.  

[01:10:43] Rich Chelson:

Right. I was just like, you're no fucking soup sandwich.  

[01:10:47] Bryan Goodwin:

What's that?  

[01:10:48] Rich Chelson:

That's like that's like the other night. You know?   She'd been outside all day. Right? Well, most all day.   And I let her in, and that dog was so wore out.   She jumped on the couch   and looking right at me, and and I was up getting water and stuff like this. I hadn't sat down yet. As soon as I sat down, I looked over at her, and she face planted right into the couch and passed out,   didn't do it for two hours.   She goes, poor dog. I was so damn tired.  

[01:11:22] Bryan Goodwin:

And  

[01:11:23] Rich Chelson:

and she laid there, and   I went out and have a cigarette. Of course,   she has to come.   You know? Uh-huh. I'm like so I hook up the lease. Come on.   And everything.   And and then as soon as I'm done, you know, she's like, okay. We're back in. I'm on the couch, and I'm passed out.   You know?   It's it's it's hilarious.   But, yeah, she just ran right past me   when I was coming back here   and was   didn't even realize that that she had passed me.  

[01:11:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Well   Mhmm.  

[01:12:00] Unknown:

Well, she well, at least she knew where you were supposed to be. Supposed to be.  

[01:12:05] Rich Chelson:

What and and you see, that's the thing.   I mean,   you know, I've taught her a few things.   But for the most part,   I really haven't taught her much.   She's just, you know, picked up on on this stuff.   You know, when I say I'm going in the back,   she knows exactly where I'm going.   Right. You know? And it's like,   you know, of course, she's running. And I'm I mean, I've got her to where   you see, before when when I would take her outside or or if I'd go on the front porch, smoke cigarette, and I'd hook the leash up to her, oh my god.   She wanted to just bolt out the door.  

Well,   now that I told her to stop.   Now she walks out the front door.   Because, I mean, damn, she'd run out and try and jerk my arm out. It's like, uh-uh. We ain't doing this.   Yeah. For the most part, though, no. I I haven't.   Well, I don't think I've taught her a lot of stuff.   You know? I mean, the dog watches me like a hawk. So   Oh, yeah.  

[01:13:13] Unknown:

And you're teaching things because she's watching you like a hawk.  

[01:13:16] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But that's the thing. Sometimes it's like, no. Don't pay attention.   That's something else we gotta worry about.   Yeah. In the morning, when I go back to the VA, I'm I'm gonna take her for a ride and let her   ride with me. I just I just leave her in the Jeep, you know, pop the window up.   You know? And, you know, I've got water in the Jeep, so she'll be fine.   Because I shouldn't be in there   an hour,   if that.   So   and she'll be happy because,   you know,   she gets to ride around.  

[01:13:53] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:13:54] Rich Chelson:

Of course.  

[01:13:56] Unknown:

I get to go ride with the Jeep with dad.  

[01:13:59] Bryan Goodwin:

I get to ride with paw.   With paw? What do you do?  

[01:14:07] Unknown:

Yeah. You kinda look like a paw.  

[01:14:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Bite me. I don't Well   You look more like a paw than I do.  

[01:14:16] Unknown:

I don't know. I'm not the one out on the porch,   you know, whittling a stick.  

[01:14:22] Rich Chelson:

I ain't whittling no stick.  

[01:14:25] Unknown:

But now I got you to think. It's like, gee. I could whittle a stick.   Actually, you wouldn't be able to whittle a stick because   Belle would be like,   why do you have the fucking stick and I don't have a stick?  

[01:14:39] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   Yeah. She'd be like, hey. That's my play toy. Leave it leave it alone.   Yeah. That's the thing. It's it's   having a dog like Bella,   very cheap on toys.   I get sticks falling   falling my yard all the time.  

[01:14:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[01:14:57] Rich Chelson:

Hey. I got free toys.  

[01:15:00] Unknown:

All day every day.  

[01:15:02] Rich Chelson:

My god. Because, yes, some of them toys are fun. Expensive, man.   Like that call. I'd say I got her that call, and that that thing was, like, damn near $20.  

[01:15:13] Unknown:

Uh-huh.  

[01:15:15] Rich Chelson:

Hey. Where'd you go?   Lord knows where she went.   Probably passed out on the couch.  

[01:15:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Came back to her and said, oh, he's sitting there talking on talking on the on his computer again. So  

[01:15:32] Rich Chelson:

And she's like, this, I'm gonna go pass out.   Catch a few z's before I go to bed. Yep.   You're gonna take a nap.  

[01:15:42] Unknown:

Hey. Like I just said, I remember that remark.   Go take a nap   so she can get up and go to bed. I just do it in reverse.   I go to bed and get up to go take a nap.  

[01:15:56] Rich Chelson:

Oh, she can do   both.   Trust me.   She can do both.   I I try I try and keep her going as much as I can,   you know, to wear her out.  

[01:16:07] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:16:08] Rich Chelson:

You know,   keep her active and stuff like that   because   I don't I don't want a dog that's just   you know,   that   you've seen them dogs that   their their whole ambition in life is to walk slower than you.   Well,   at least at least that's what it seems like to me. You know?  

[01:16:33] Unknown:

Because most of them are fatter than me?  

[01:16:35] Rich Chelson:

I mean, you're right.   But,   but, yeah, I mean I mean, I'm you know, I want her to be you know? I mean, shit. She's still a puppy. You know? Right. Yeah.   In a few years, you know, she wants to chill more. Hey. Go for it.   I I will definitely be more than ready for that.  

[01:16:56] Unknown:

Yeah.   Oh, I'm sure.  

[01:16:59] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. She got wound up today because   she got to meet a couple people from the from, AT and T that that was over here.   Yeah. I freaking brought her inside and   and   you know? I mean,   these people like dogs. So   yeah,   and so, yeah, Bella got   got   to meet new people. Oh my gosh.   Made her day.   Damn dog.  

[01:17:28] Unknown:

Of course. She got loving from somebody else.  

[01:17:31] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.   So   so, Brian,   you said you said something last night about   you had some drama going on.  

[01:17:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, well, yeah, if you wanna call it drama. Yeah.   It it it's   come to find out, sadly, you know, we're I've talked about a bit about, my doc my daughter in the past.   Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, how she had   suddenly decided to go off, get married to just this   random guy.   Right. Right. Who she didn't really know that much.   Well, it didn't it   a lot has come to come to, fruition here within the last week   Oh, wow. Because yeah. Because she finally got out from underneath it, and   that's the proper phrase to use because   it was   the this dude's a fucking work of art.  

Really? Oh, yeah. The   and   my daughter,   she didn't   she didn't want to see   the the the red flags when they were when they cropped up.   But, yeah, this, this guy was   as as we keep getting more conversations   with her and and stuff like that, it was yeah. He was   full on manipulation   if not just doing the whole narcissistic,   you know, entrapment type of,   of action. So it was   it was   started out with the with the   the quintessential   love bomb where it was just you know, he was throwing everything at her. He was taking her out on these great dates and dragging her off to this church, that church so they could find a church they both like to go to. And it but everything was all very considerate, you know, and it was just all about her. You know, is let's do this, do this, you know, this this this. Let's go hike out Powder Canyon, and   it was a great time because, I mean, the dude was doing what   a lot of narcissists do in that they just   blind you   with all this amazing stuff. They just they know how to   get the dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin,   all all of it all mixed together, and so you have this high   infatuation   rate.  

Right. Right. And she'd kind of been one of the guy who would, you know, take her out on dates and stuff like that because last, you know,   several of the guys that she'd gone with before, they were, you know, just as broke as she was. And so going out on a date was,   wanna go to the park and walk around for a little bit? So that's a date. You know? And that was about the closest that she would come, and that was and so she finally found the guy that was like, hey. Come on. Let's go to the theater.   Let's go hang out. You know, let's go watch a play, and then let's go, you know, go over here. Let's go to a nice restaurant. Let's do this. Let's do that. Let's go let's both spend the day down in the canyon, you know, and all the other things that she had kind of romanticized   about.  

Well, then,   along came,   July when they got married.   And   what was the basically, the response that he made shortly thereafter was, well, you are wife on paper now.  

[01:21:02] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh.  

[01:21:03] Bryan Goodwin:

And proceeded to manipulate   and   kept getting, you know,   and was starting to started to get physical.   Yeah. It was where, you know,   if,   calling her any any and all I mean, hell.   Let me see if I've still got some of these.  

[01:21:22] Unknown:

Can't remember when she sent them over  

[01:21:25] Bryan Goodwin:

here or not this one. No. It's it's you see, that's that's that's what that's what, you know, hurts That's what all of us were were feared about. And that was in telling us to talk with Jan, and I was like   and once all this really started to come about, we were like, well, that explains why she was because one of the things that pissed Jan off the most about all this was was whenever   we would bring up   our concerns and what was going on, she was or how   we felt about the circumstances. She was just very flippant about it. She was just like, oh, well, you know, we just it's just it was just that. It was just, you know, she would just laugh it off.   And it would just kind of we were like going, no. You can't just be   flipping about it. I mean, come on. We've   been there for for you for, you know, the majority of the majority of your life. You really you know?  

So we we feel,   don't not not that we are   are   entitled, but   we felt like, you know, an ex explanation as to why you just suddenly decided to fall off the map. Why did you suddenly just   move out without even telling your brother? Because she was living with her brother   at the time   and and had a good little setup. She only had to pay $400   a month.   And if she couldn't make it, he was like, well, well, make it up, you know, make it up, you know,   what you can. You know? He wasn't he wasn't being, you know, a landlord of, hey. You've gotta get shit paid now. Blah blah blah blah blah.   And so   he would,   so he got he started working really fast, which is kinda what I figured he was going on because of how much he was working to   isolate her from us, from Jaden, from   his friends, and   she wasn't having   the conversations she was having were very short, very you know?  

Again, flip it would be a good way to describe it because it was   a very uncaring,   unnatural   humor about it.  

[01:23:37] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:23:39] Bryan Goodwin:

And so, yes, she it was as she talked about it, it's like   he loved bond until,   until they got, until he convinced her to get married. And then once that was done, it was   it was   a switch was flipped, and it was   where all of a sudden, she's a whore. She's fucking cut. She's all this other stuff.   Yep. And,   and   just was   being just a well, be a piece of shit is what he was being.   And,   started that   That's what Marxists do, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They they got what they need, and then now it's time to start   keeping, keeping the person's equilibrium   off by, you know oh, yeah. You're you're I'm sorry. I've been I I just I had a lot on my mind blah blah blah blah. I didn't get them. Oh, okay. Well, it's you know? Never mind. Never mind. We're we're okay. And then, you know, hit them again with something. And and   for four months, it's been like that. And   and so   it took until last last week when, apparently, they got into a such a huge fight that, the neighbors actually called the police.  



[01:24:52] Rich Chelson:

Oh, wow. And  

[01:24:53] Bryan Goodwin:

police   told her, you've gotta leave. Grab your kid.   Leave. Let things cool off. And so he he is a lock changer. He if you if you don't do what he wants you to do,   he he goes and buys a new lock and changes it out.   So she never actually had a key   to the front door. She never had a key a working key to the house.  

[01:25:18] Rich Chelson:

That means just leave.  

[01:25:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Well,   then she he started throwing I mean,   see here.   I mean, she's   see, I'm where were some of these? Yep. And I've  

[01:25:32] Unknown:

I've lived through that same   thing.  

[01:25:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.  

[01:25:36] Unknown:

With my daughter. Yeah.  

[01:25:39] Bryan Goodwin:

And, I mean, she's and she's been going back and forth on I mean, if there's ever I've never actually witnessed trauma bond before,   which is something that often hap apparently happens with when you're with narcissist   is because they tie your emotions   in so many knots that, yeah, you could sit there and she's going, I know he's horrible for me. She's, you know, in middle of tears. I   know he is he is horrible for me. He puts me in it makes me a person   or has me act like a person I don't wanna be and and all this other stuff. But at the same time, she's going,   but I miss him.  

What is wrong with me?   And and it's just   that is just the most   nefarious   action   that,   you know, I it could ever do. I hope I never run into the son of a bitch because,   dude, you know, it's gonna be he's gonna find himself in the back of an alley. And if he ever tries to touch   touch my girls again   after all this is said, done,   and I find out about it,   and we got it on recording, and I have no problem fessing up to it if I get, if I get   asked about it is   you'll find him buried somewhere out in out in the out in West Texas.  

[01:27:01] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:27:02] Bryan Goodwin:

I have no problem saying it like that. They've got pig farms out there.   I was just thinking, you know, you could bury somebody out in the middle of of West. You know, go out to, you know,   South   Of Of Pecos,   anywhere in that area, and it's just flat, and you could   dig it dig a freaking hole   and put them in there, cover it up. No one would be able to find it.  

[01:27:27] Rich Chelson:

Well, that is true because   yeah. West Texas is a big damn place. Yeah.  

[01:27:34] Bryan Goodwin:

And so it'd be like, hey. We heard you were you were doing a you're the last one to see him with with the with this dude and be like, yeah. Yeah. I was. You know where he's at? Yeah. Yeah. I do.   Where is he at? Out in West Texas.   Where? I couldn't tell you. I don't know how to get back to where it is. Nope.  

[01:27:55] Rich Chelson:

He took a trip. I don't know where he took a trip.   He just started walking.   Yeah. No. She Oh. Yeah.   I used to just walk away and maybe get some help or whatnot   to figure this out because that's the thing. A narcissist   is really good at   fucking  

[01:28:16] Bryan Goodwin:

mind. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And does a great great job of it, Tim.   I mean, hell, he the thing. Isn't he was he was mad because he lost all control with her once she moved out.   And, I mean, he started reaching out to everybody. And, I mean, he and I have no problem sharing out what what he said to me because, well, it's to me.   But   as first message she got after that is tell your daughter she can bring my belongings along with my debit card tonight so I can or I file a a police report for the destruction of property.   And I was like, okay. Go ahead. Yeah. Basically, and I was like and then he posts up a picture of looks like about a about a fist sized hole in in a door,   and his response was, this is your little angel. Handle her before I make her make the law do it for her. I was like, well, okay. Whatever. And then shows another picture of,   like, a bed that's covered up with a whole bunch of, a bunch of shit and stuff, and then a,   then there's a hole in what looks like it's probably   a   a,   in a door that's   maybe a a water a hot water heater closet   instead with the response of, like I said, handle it before I do. Thanks. And I replied with,   well, how do I know that was done today?  

Also, handle it before you do? That sounds like a threat, sir.   Okay. He replied, unless you want her to catch a catch a felony, try being a father to her to your kids instead of instead of random guys the guy she fucks dad.   And, with that, I replied with the with the meme, the gift of the, the old guy from   from Lord of the Rings   when he when Gandalf tries to, you know, use magic on him and the guy just laughs, goes,   you have no power here.   I threw that back at him. And, he didn't like that, so he ramped up with you dumb fat piece of shit. I see why she turned out like that. Family, I'm being bred idiots who can't lift a finger for themselves. Don't worry. I'll take care of it.  

[01:30:25] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[01:30:26] Bryan Goodwin:

And   hold up real quick. See you.  

[01:30:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's yeah. You see see, that's the thing. I've, you know, I've dealt with people like that and everything, and they you know, that's the thing. Call, you know, call us bluff.   They do something about it. Stop talking and do something because he won't. He won't. He's scared.  

[01:30:48] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Well, he, yeah, he he   he wants the he wants people to be   influenced by what he what he says. And so there then he replied with, you're no model of a parent, Brian, and your daughter is becoming increasingly   reckless, posing harm to those around   her. Not to mention, she stole from me, so I suggest you convince her to get my shit back to me ASAP.   Oh, and did I did you know that Lexi and Jayden were fucking which Jayden is is my son.   And it's like, no.   He conveniently forgets that   while she was living with with Jaden,   the father of their kid   of her kid,   was living with her also.  

So, you know, trying to trying to stir stuff stuff up in in that department   or just overlooked   it being absent and all. You bred some sick, fucked up kids, man. Take your own advice and choose,   choose now to be a dad.   And you should advise your daughter to do the the right thing before someone else has to show her how. So, again,   boisterous   blowhard.   Yeah. And,  

[01:32:04] Rich Chelson:

and all that is.  

[01:32:06] Bryan Goodwin:

So and then a couple through see, what was that? That was   on the fifth of the following day.   Didn't get anything else from me from that day, and he was like,   still doesn't have any any, power over me. Hasn't been able to incite any response from me that is of of,   that is of of,   of any use to him. So tell your cut ass offspring to quit fucking with my Internet before I file harassment charges.   Well, she is the one who'd gotten the Internet, so she turned it off. She turned off the,   Well, good. She bought   she she was with what little money she still had, she was paying for, for Netflix.  

And it was under her her deal. And so my daughter just wanted to watch Ponyo, and your little victim took that,   from us. Tell her to come   tell her   to let her know to contact me for her the ring her grandfather made her in a prescription glasses.   Oh, and don't think I know about your checkered past, Brian. I hear you have a taste for young ones   too.   And that is in response to yeah. That was that's in response to the allegation that my oldest daughter, Kira,   had made.   Right. And my response to that was, I do?   Interesting.  

And, yeah, I hadn't heard anything back from him after that. He he shortly he blocked me shortly after that one, which pissed me off. I was like, goddamn it. I was one because I was planning on   just kinda lingering in the background.   And and whenever I No. Yeah. No. I was gonna linger because what I'm wanting to do is anytime I see that he's found himself another check,   I'm gonna touch base with check going, you might wanna get a hold of a few people here and ask them questions about who mister Mason is.  

[01:33:58] Rich Chelson:

You see,   honestly,   someone like that, I I probably wouldn't even waste my breath because, you know, for a fact,   he's not gonna do any of the research,   you know, because   he knows   he know he's he's smart enough. He knows the answers to all this. He's just   he's just trying to get you   wound up, like, you know, the the  

[01:34:23] Bryan Goodwin:

the lingering behind   isn't for my satisfaction at all.   I just wanna protect the other women that he goes off and and   and bedazzles with with his actions.  

[01:34:36] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:34:37] Bryan Goodwin:

That's all I wanna be able to do. Of course, then my daughter had a really good point. And she's like, oh, dad, don't even sweat that because Amarillo is so small. I'll know when he has a boyfriend   or another girlfriend.   Right. I was like, oh, okay. Good point. Because, yeah, she's tell she's she's telling me about all the the other boyfriend   boyfriend her old boyfriends that have that have gotten   other girls, you know,   gotten other girls knocked up and and stuff like that. And she's like,   so, yeah, she's she's   somehow keeps a pulse on on on everybody.  

And Okay. Of course, again, like I said, Amarillo is a small enough city that, yeah, you pretty much know what   don't know the everybody, you know somebody who knows somebody who knows the the other people that you don't know. So Right.  

[01:35:25] Unknown:

And then that person knows Kevin Bacon. Exactly.  

[01:35:31] Bryan Goodwin:

That's a good one, dude. That's the that's the true   example of six degrees of separation, and that's that's actually a real thing. You know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows you Or say it, you know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who also knows you.   I think that's how it goes. I'm now that I've gotten that I'm talking. I'm like, oh, that's not quite right.   But, yeah, the sixties can make it to someone who knows somebody   or is you can you can point to any movie,   and there is gonna be somebody in there who worked for somebody   who worked for somebody   who worked for somebody who worked with Kevin Bacon.  

Right. It is the actual is how the six degrees Kevin Bacon is, but that one actually was a a play   off of the six degrees of separation   Of separation Let's see here.   Oh, no. It's a movie.   See, six degrees of separation is a concept posting that any two people on earth can be connected through a chain of no more than five intermediaries.   So resulting in a total of six or fewer social links. So you could say an idea was first suggested by the Hungarian author of Figueres   Karathin   in 1929   and was later supported by Hanley mill Stanley Milgram's small world experiment   in the sixties, which   which connected people through limited social ties. The concept has been explored in various various forms, including the 1990   play, the 1993   film, six degrees of separation, and the basis of the game, six degrees of Kevin Bacon.  

So the   so, yeah, it's everybody is connected to everybody by at least   six degrees of separation.   So   I know somebody   who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows Donald Trump.   I also know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows   Vladimir Putin.   I know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody   who knows   Kevin Bacon.   That that's how the that's how the whole that whole theory works.  

[01:37:46] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:37:48] Unknown:

So   You don't have a game  

[01:37:51] Bryan Goodwin:

named after you? No. No. No. See, that's how awesome Kevin Bacon is.  

[01:37:57] Unknown:

I mean, you know, it's how many movies he's been in.  

[01:38:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh, it's been quite a bit, but, honestly, Kevin Yeah. I don't mind Kevin Bacon. I'm Oh, he would do it. Some of his movies were   stupid, but   not all of them.  

[01:38:14] Unknown:

Well, I mean,  

[01:38:16] Bryan Goodwin:

you can't have   incredible awesome,   awesome movies. You can only make trimmers once.  

[01:38:23] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, you also have the original Footloose, which I like that one.  

[01:38:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.   Yeah. Sounds good. Footloose is   forever a classic.  

[01:38:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, yeah.   It's like Rocky Horror Picture Show.  

[01:38:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Right? Absolutely.   That's having that's a great movie to watch   and a, and a live viewing.  

[01:38:50] Unknown:

Yeah. I've  

[01:38:52] Rich Chelson:

never seen it live.  

[01:38:53] Unknown:

You   okay. But you have seen it. Right?  

[01:38:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Years ago. Okay.   Years ago.  

[01:39:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hell, I haven't.   You need to watch it again, Rick.   I got it because my daughter wanted to,   was wanting to show it to a, to one of her boyfriends. She liked to she was one of those that liked to put,   like, to try to shock her her boyfriends, you know, just do something weird to make them wonder what in the hell they got themselves into.   And so that was one of the things. She would bring them over. She would they would sit out on the in the living room and sit down and and would watch Rocky Horror Picture Show.   That's the most of most of her boyfriends had never even heard of of Rocky Horror Picture Show.  

Oh my god.   And so I've been looking, trying to see if I could find, you know, a live because the last time I've seen a live version of Rocky Horror Picture Show was   was over   in San Diego.   And I don't know if they if that, that theater group still still does it or not, but   be cool if they did,   Ray.   But,  

[01:40:04] Unknown:

yeah. Did they  

[01:40:06] Bryan Goodwin:

did the actors act out the entire movie? Oh, hell yeah. You had the they had the act out. They had you know, they do the one of the funniest things that still cracks me up is that   the girls   the the girls that were playing Magenta   and Columbia,   anytime they had the the the naked statues of David   would show up, they would sit there and be trying to jump up, trying to grab his ding dong.  

[01:40:33] Unknown:

And I'm like  

[01:40:36] Bryan Goodwin:

And so, yeah, you had the whole you know, they would   they they didn't have all of it so that you didn't you wanted not to bring in rice   or toast because they didn't want bugs,   but,   they did have the they they hand out a squirt gun with waters for the rain scenes.   And,   and, you know, you had all the   all the, the the responses   to stuff. So, you know, like, Columbia, what's your   Frank, what's your favorite color? Magenta.   And, where do you get your cocaine? Columbia.   It's stuff like that. So you had a it was just a lot of it was a lot of fun to actually go and and,   you know, everybody everybody needs to have their, their Rocky Horror picture show cherry popped.  

So   it's a it's a it's a fun time. It's just it's one of those little weird little   cultural things that's   more fun than it should be.  

[01:41:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:41:34] Unknown:

Definitely a cult classic.  

[01:41:36] Bryan Goodwin:

It is a the the definition of cult classic. Absolutely.  

[01:41:41] Unknown:

That is probably definitely   in the top three  

[01:41:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:41:47] Unknown:

Of cult classics.  

[01:41:49] Rich Chelson:

So so, Brian, let me ask. Has   has Alexis   moved out of this guy's house in the back in Oh, yeah.  

[01:41:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Now she is she's moved out,   and, that's why he was need to bring because he's   he's   gone off and say   some of the more recent stuff that,   see.  

[01:42:16] Unknown:

So are they getting the marriage annulled, or does she No. No.  

[01:42:21] Bryan Goodwin:

You have to file because in Texas, the only way you can actually have a marriage annulled is if you can prove fraud.  

[01:42:30] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[01:42:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Or   or under the influence, and they were standing in front of a judge, so can't prove that either. So   got a judge going, yeah, about that.  

[01:42:42] Rich Chelson:

So And the bad luck.  

[01:42:45] Bryan Goodwin:

So,  

[01:42:46] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Well,   yeah, get through this   and move on and   stay away from dickheads like that.  

[01:42:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And that's it. I mean, that's the big thing.   If there are any women listening to this show,   pay attention to those red flags.   Good example. And something that, I pointed over to my daughter also was she's like, well, it's it sucks because I couldn't even have any alcohol anymore because and   because whenever we have out because whenever we drink,   that's all we do is we get into big fights, and that was even before they got married.   I was like, well, there's that's a good example because there's only true   two   true people out there. There are small children,   and they're drunks.  

Alcohol brings out the real you.   Right? So when you when you could not get along with him while you were while he was drunk and you were drunk also,   that shows   y'all aren't compatible.   Right.   That's the difference between   me and between her and him and   the missus and me.   Uh-huh.   I mean, it's   it is that's what well, that's one reason why I don't get drunk   out in public is because   I one, I I   that's,   that being drunk is is a at home deal only that I did. And that's if I wanna get drunk. But most of the time, I'm,   if I am getting drunk and it's in a semipublic place, it's with just a bunch of a bunch of other friends.  

And   I don't   I'm I'm still too busy trying to be try to be a protector   of the missus.   And so I really   can't have a whole lot of I have a good time. Don't get me wrong. I love, you know, I love the the sensation of being drunk. I love the fact that my nose somehow is still on my face, but I can't feel it. You know? That's always the funniest thing. It's like, yeah. My nose is gone. This is weird. You know? So   but it's it's one of those one of those   deals where   Mhmm. I'm not going to   rob the guard   on my wife   just because I'm drunk, and she's   she's, you know, she often will   get   belligerent about topics that she feels   very compassionate about.  

Right. But at the same time, it's really easy to distract her from the other stuff. It's like, hey. Look at this. So   she she you can get off topic   quite easily, and so you don't have to worry about,   you know, things getting blown out of proportion.   Right. Right.  

[01:45:38] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. You say that's the thing, and and it took me many years to learn that. But,   yeah, when people get drunk,   that's when you find out who they really are because Really? Yeah. Because a a drunk person, whether it be male or female,   they're gonna be honest.   Yeah.   Yep. Because,   you know, they don't care. They've they've that that wall comes down, and you can actually find out   if the person's decent or not.   Right.   You know?  

[01:46:08] Bryan Goodwin:

I know. And so that's I told her that's, yeah,   that's I told her that's like, you know,   when you finally get back to,   hopefully, she   actually   understands what I'm telling her this time, and she takes it to heart. Because, I mean,   before   Dickhead, you know, stepped into the picture, I told her, it's like, after after Max, you got to wait   at least a year,   and I would really appreciate it'd be better if you could hold off two years.   Right?   Find yourself a place for you to live   where you're on your own. You've you're you're making ends meet. You're doing it. You can live on your own   without, you know,   with as minimal of assistance as possible   with little bit.  

And behind that is a lot of what, you know, kinda kept her there   because he   he pulled it away.   He butched that she was a mooch and that she was that she was   sucking all the money dry in the in the   in the household.   But then she's like, alright. Well, I'll go ahead and I'll go get a job. You ain't getting no damn job. You ain't gonna be a fucking slut. You know? And just start attacking her for the suggesting of I'll go work a toot and total.   Wow.   Yeah. These.   Yeah.   And so it was it again, that was the whole   keep her   equilibrium   knocked off   and   have it to where, a, she doesn't have the money. She doesn't have any means of being able to leave.  

You've decreased her her self worth to a level that, you know, the moment that he says, oh, you did a really good job. All of a sudden, that feels amazing.   It feels like, you know, God just came down and and hugged you and said, good job, kid. You're the best person on the face of the earth.   Because before that, you were, you know yeah. They were telling you, you're you're shit. You're, you know, the person you're supposed to be love loving   as supposed to be loving you unconditionally is calling you all these horrible, ruthless,   no good names. And then all of a sudden, they're going, yeah. I love you. And it feels real nice. And so, yeah, you're going to have this trauma bond. They caused all this all this emotional turmoil within you and then turn and I don't like the word term trauma.  

But at the same time, when I say that that, again, it's like the term addiction.   There's no real addiction, but you say it because people understand what you're meaning   Uh-huh. Type of deal. And, trauma bond's one of those because there's no actual   drama   there.   There's a lot of   high stress situations,   and you've taught yourself how to   handle that high stress high stressed   situation, but it's not   traumatic.   Now if all of a sudden he pulls out a gun and shoots somebody,   then, yeah, there that's that's a traumatic you know, there was when there is   actual trauma that goes on, an actual medical trauma, then, okay. Yeah. That is very traumatic.  

But, again, that's   just how I view   I view stuff. But at the same time, when I say trauma bond, most people   get a have an understanding of what a trauma bond   is, where your   where they they cause so much harm   and   and and uncertainty within you that when the moment they actually   throw a little   little   crime of of   of love and compassion your way, you just suck it up   because you're so   starved for it.  

[01:49:59] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:50:00] Bryan Goodwin:

And, I mean, then she's she's having to she's, you know, decompressing   from that   because, yeah, he was again today. Apparently, she,   she didn't block him on email. Apparently, he said that, well, I the only channel I've got that I could still talk to her by is email, and so he shot her an email. And started off with   with I'm   I I love you and miss you and all this other stuff. Started out with the doing the love bomb thing.   And   Lexi   Dawit,   she was on the phone whenever she got it, and she was reading it. And all of a sudden, she's boo hooed a bawling her eyes out.   She replied to him and was like, no. I can't.  

Let's grow up. Let's mature a bit.   Yeah. And and   she but at the same time, she's like, oh, and I miss him so bad.   I miss him so much.   How badly would y'all hate me if I went back? And I was like, we wouldn't hate you.   But at the same time, don't don't be surprised if I am rooting for Max to have   to have Aspen   while you're in that environment.   Because my sister is the same way. My sister is in a in a   abusive relationship. The dude loves to use her head as target practice for beer bottles.   Oh, man.   And my my nephew   or my nephews actually   were there, and eventually   eventually,   Bradley got fed up enough with it where he went and grabbed two of the two of the,   of the, the butcher knives out of the, out of the butcher's out of the knife block   and was threatening to go after   her boyfriend   if he didn't leave her the hell alone.  

And shortly thereafter that, she made the choice. She made the the conscious choice   of sending   the boys away.   She didn't   she didn't she didn't go with them. She stayed behind.  

[01:52:02] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But is wrong.  

[01:52:05] Bryan Goodwin:

And I agree. It's like, well, you had the choice to   and and the oldest one, he he resents her   majorly for that.   Right. Because she chose this this asshole   over her own sons.  

[01:52:21] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Yes, miss.   Hey, dude. Take your pills.  

[01:52:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I was gonna say I heard the beep beep beep. Yeah. I heard that too.   That's why I was Which is interesting because   Zoom normally blocks out sounds. And all of a sudden, we I heard that. I was like, wait a minute.   Yeah. I almost wanna I almost wanna try try some of   the some of the, the audio,   some of the the sound effects on the on the computer again and see if they actually come through or not.  

[01:52:53] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean,   you could try, but, yeah, I I don't know. Zoom Zoom normally does a good job, but I guess every once in a while, Zoom kinda Yeah. They got a hiccup. Yeah.  

[01:53:04] Unknown:

But Well, that was alarm that was alarm number two.  

[01:53:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I know. Okay. Serviceman. I just heard  

[01:53:12] Unknown:

Yeah. Yep.   I already took the drugs, man.  

[01:53:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   So, Ron, what how   so, Ron, what's been going on in your world   besides for you getting to finally go do some wheeling again?  

[01:53:29] Unknown:

You know, my life just is,   unfortunately, pretty much the same.  

[01:53:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Working up. Working home. Working home.   Yep. Yep. That's about right.   Hopefully, be getting a roof on the house here pretty soon.  

[01:53:43] Rich Chelson:

Nice.  

[01:53:45] Bryan Goodwin:

And I need to see if I can   see if I can find enough baseballs to throw at the roof so I can   so I can say we had a flash What? Hailstorm on on my house only.   So   Yeah. That's what it was. My house has hit 20 it it it's hit the twenty year limit on it, so   it's time to get a new one.   And I have not been a responsible homeowner and saved up for it. So  

[01:54:12] Unknown:

Well, we'll see what   what I have to come up with my deductible   amount. Right.  

[01:54:18] Rich Chelson:

Of  

[01:54:19] Bryan Goodwin:

course, I don't even have a froggiest clue on how much it cost to   change up,   you know,   roofs on a   have a roof redone.  

[01:54:29] Rich Chelson:

You just have to call a few people and   have them come out and quote you.  

[01:54:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yep.  

[01:54:36] Rich Chelson:

I mean because it's like here. You know, when when I was thinking about my roof, I yeah. I was trying to do some research,   and, yeah, I was seeing anywhere from   25 to 30,000   plus. And I'm like, oh, fuck no.  

[01:54:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Exactly. I'm like going, man, I still owe that on my house.   Right? Yes. Like, good night.  

[01:54:56] Rich Chelson:

And   and then when   when I got the quote for a rescrew at, what,   $13.05   or something like that. I'm like, that's just for screws, man.   Maybe maybe a few panels if needed   or maybe some, you know, of the wood last   last as knee if needed.   And then they said 20,000 for a brand new roof. I'm like, yeah. I ain't stupid.   You know? I mean,   I might have been born in the morning, but I wasn't born that morning.  

[01:55:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:55:32] Rich Chelson:

You know? I was like, oh, shit. I'll just I for the extra money, I'll just go have it have it all done, and I ain't gotta worry about it.   Yep. Very much so. In fact in fact, I gotta call them and schedule because   since they did the roof, they will come out once a year, inspect my roof,   and clean it.   So I don't have to get up there and, like, sweep it off, you know, the   of any limbs or leaves or pine needles that are up there.   They'll they'll freak come out there and do it.  

[01:56:04] Unknown:

Yeah. And that's for how long?  

[01:56:07] Rich Chelson:

The next ten years.  

[01:56:08] Unknown:

Ten years? Wow. That's pretty good. Oh, they, yeah, they  

[01:56:12] Rich Chelson:

they, even though the roof has a twenty or twenty five, thirty year warranty,   you know, just because it's a metal roof, they Uh-huh.   The company themselves   for the next ten years   will come out and inspect it and   make sure it's good. And and if something fails and it's due to their product,   they'll fix it right there. You know? Yeah. They'll fix it for free. And and if something was to happen   and and it proved to be,   you know, their fault in in the first place and it damages   the inside of my house,   they will fix that too.   That's good. Yeah. So I I mean yeah. Even though it was, you know, that much for a roof, you know, I felt I felt getting the couple extra perks   was Yeah. Was worth it. You know what I mean?  



[01:57:08] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[01:57:09] Rich Chelson:

So that's why I was like, yeah.   And plus these guys are really in fact,   the the main dude, Chad,   he was a foreman over the crew, you know, that that did the roof.  

[01:57:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[01:57:23] Rich Chelson:

He showed up one morning,   and he was sitting there talking to his wife, FaceTiming her on the phone.   And I didn't know he was on the phone. I said something to him, and his wife   said, who is that? And he turned the phone. He says,   this is Richard, the homeowner we're we're doing the work for. And   she's like, hi. I'm like, good morning.   And I was just like, okay. I mean, I don't know who you are, but I   you know?   But yeah. I mean, they're just nice people. You know?   Yeah.   So   so that's why I didn't really have a problem.   You know?  

I still didn't wanna spend the money, but, you know, I felt better.  

[01:58:08] Unknown:

You know, that's kinda like me in the air conditioner.   Didn't really wanna spend the money, but   I like being cool.  

[01:58:16] Rich Chelson:

Well yeah. Yeah. By the way, how is that working for you? You know, it's been pretty good. My highest bill  

[01:58:23] Unknown:

this year   was,   I think, $303,119.   And we're talking we're talking   1,800   square foot, four bedroom house.   And   and   I have not had to put the window unit back in to help with the cooling.   It has   I mean, it stays constant   at what do I have it set at? 73,   I think it is.  

[01:58:56] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:58:57] Unknown:

And so   yeah.   Where last year,   one of the months was $800   for electricity.   Yeah. Yeah.   So   but I happen to pay,   what, $12,000   for that unit.  

[01:59:15] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But, you know, it it just saved you a shit ton of money.  

[01:59:21] Unknown:

Yeah. You're right. Because   I pay, what is it, $404,120   dollars a month for the unit for  

[01:59:31] Rich Chelson:

For the unit and the install?  

[01:59:34] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For everything.   And to oh, that loan's paid off. I think I did it for four years.  

[01:59:42] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So   So by by nine or ten years,   you'll probably   be in the clear then.  

[01:59:50] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Well Yeah. Like I said, do you know,   even with having this payment   and the electricity payment   is still cheaper   than a couple of months   of just electricity  

[02:00:06] Rich Chelson:

last year. Right. That's man, that's crazy, dude. That's awesome.   Yep.   That is just that is just way too awesome.   I'm glad I'm glad that   that thing really worked out for you. You know?   Yes. Oh, yeah.   Because I I just meant fucking a 100 degree heat. That's   you know? And and, you know, think about it back in the eighteen hundreds   or early nineteen hundreds or whatnot.   You know?   I mean,   it was still hot in Texas.  

[02:00:38] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:00:39] Rich Chelson:

You know? And and I just, you know, kinda wonder how   people survived.  

[02:00:46] Unknown:

I mean, we've gotten soft, to be honest with you. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. We are.  

[02:00:52] Rich Chelson:

You know? I mean, I'm not lying. I I'm soft. I'm soft as squeaky.  

[02:00:59] Unknown:

Well, yeah, Well, yeah, you resemble that remark. That's very true.  

[02:01:05] Rich Chelson:

No. It's true. I ain't I ain't gonna lie. I mean, I  

[02:01:10] Unknown:

I don't know how they fucking did it without a without AC.   Yeah.   Fuck that shit.  

[02:01:17] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:01:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, heck. You got you it's like I was reading came across something. I think it was over on Reddit   where they were talking about, like, in the Scandinavian countries.   Uh-huh.   You know, what they what they normally like to do?   Okay. Let their babies   sleep outside.  

[02:01:36] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[02:01:37] Bryan Goodwin:

In the wintertime   in Scandinavia.   This is like the top part of Canada type of cold.   Yeah. No. I'm good. They just bundle them up, put them in their in their in their in their little bassinet, you know,   their their trolley and   bubble them up and put put a blanket over them, set them outside.   They just sleep,   which, I mean, is good. It is and and people have said have always said that the healthiest,   people sleep you actually have better,   more restorative sleep   in cold in a in a cold room.  

[02:02:16] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:02:17] Bryan Goodwin:

And, and so I see how it can be healthy   Yeah. For for a kid because, I mean, they it's not like they're just taking them, laying them out in the snow naked or anything. They're, you know, they or they're all bundled up, but at the same time, you   know, we we set them, bitch, about,   about you know, we look like Randy from the, from the, the Christmas story   when we go outside and we're still complaining about being cold. It's like, you're not really cold. Well,   I don't. I'm still walking around in shorts and a sweatshirt,   but, you know, you're just weird. Right?  



[02:02:55] Rich Chelson:

I mean, yeah, I'm a call a spade a spade here, dude. You're just weird. I mean And I own it. I own it. I I have no problem being considered weird.   Oh, shoot.  

[02:03:08] Bryan Goodwin:

But it yeah.   It is just one of those,   it I I the cold,   I don't like my feet being cold.  

[02:03:17] Rich Chelson:

I don't like no part of me being cold. My legs  

[02:03:21] Bryan Goodwin:

my legs could be cool, but, it'd be cold. But I also   unless my core core temperature   drops to where I get the shivers.   Yeah.   And, I mean, I've had that happen   in, you know, in the middle of of summer in Dallas.   He's sitting in a restaurant, and all of a sudden, just   just jackhammering away   with with my teeth clattering.  

[02:03:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:03:47] Bryan Goodwin:

It was just like,   you know,   it I eat as quick as as   quick as possible so I could step out in 100 degree weather and be like,   okay.   Yeah. We're warming up now.   And then you have to get to the point where you actually I actually started sweating before I felt   normal again.   Right.   And so, yeah, it's a,   I   mean, it's a it's a   it's it's it's crazy what   what you can get used to and what a lot of people you know,   if you   if you've listened or,   or   read anything about what is his name?   Wimhaw,   Wimh, w I m   h o f f. He is   I don't think he's Norwegian,   but he's something he's he is Northern Europe, which, you know okay. Snow Country, he's part of the Great White North weird weird folks. He's Dutch.  

Dutch. Dutch. Yeah.   And   he is a firm believer in that you actually have the ability   to control   your   your body temperature. You have   full control over your body because, like, cavemen   beforehand, yeah, they may wear some skins and stuff, but they didn't have high insulation.   Right. So how were they able to stay warm, and how were they able to live?   Were they just walking around going, fuck. It's fucking cold. Goddamn. How long you know? They won't walk around cussing about that. They just accept the fact that, yeah. Okay. It's that time of the year where it gets really cold, and you just have to accept it.   Yeah. So how would they how were they able to do that? And they they've done research stuff and found that   babies   as a whole   start off with   and that's one reason why, you know, sticking your kid out in the out in the out in the cold when they nap is good for them because   they develop   what's called brown adipose tissue, which is also known as brown fat.  

And   this is, they believe that this   brown,   adipose tissue   is what is used to actually regulate   your internal body temperature.   And you can activate it and you can deactivate it   if you know how to how to handle it. And that's why he's able to Wim Hof was able to swim   underwater   under a frozen lake for as long as he was able to because he was able to control,   a, his breath, but, b, was able to control his internal body temperature.   Right.   He was also able to he there's a book that's called What Does It Kill Us, which is about Wim Hof   and   about how a reporter   joined him   on his   I think it was   shorts and a T shirt only   hike to the top in a fast hike. It wasn't just a it wasn't a okay. Well, we're gonna go up to this area, and we're gonna we're acclimating ourselves. We're gonna go to the next area, and we're gonna sit there for another three days until we acclimate ourselves.  

It was   we're gonna start here at the base of Mount Kilimanjaro.   We're gonna hike up to the top, and we're gonna hike back down.   And the only time we're gonna stop is for the night so that we actually can get some sleep.   Right?   And   and he they they actually do it.   I think well, I think what it was is they were gonna be just in shorts. They were gonna be with no shirt   and and no pants. They were just gonna have shorts and tennis shoes on. And, eventually, they to be able to do it, they ended up having to be it had to be at least have a T shirt on,   except Wim Hof somewhere along the way. I think he decided to take his off, and they did it. They went all the way up to, Mount Kilimanjaro   to in all the cold and and all that   made to the summit   and came back down. And instead of taking, like, whatever it is, like, a week and a week and a day or week and a half or whatever it was,   they did it in, like, four days.  



[02:07:58] Rich Chelson:

Oh, wow.  

[02:08:00] Bryan Goodwin:

They just went up they went down, and   and and they were not worse for the wear.   It was just like they got finished doing a really long   really long hike.  

[02:08:10] Rich Chelson:

Right?   And that's   good for him.  

[02:08:14] Bryan Goodwin:

It's good   for him. I'm not doing that.  

[02:08:18] Rich Chelson:

No.  

[02:08:20] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm just I'm just letting everyone know I'm not doing that. But see, I think that would I think that would help you out just being, you know, how you hate   the cold. Because   one of the things they talk about is   in there is   they're in   Austria or someplace, somewhere else up in it might have even been in Scandinavia or someplace like that.   But it's up in the up in the cold area of the world.   There was   well, I'm gonna say was, because because I'm going from a story, but I think he's still alive. But there was a   blacksmith   who had   severe arthritis in his hands.  

So bad that he was he was   going to have to give it up   because, you know, it's a a blacksmith who can't hold something in his hands   is not a great blacksmith.   Right. Right. But he actually went and and   studied under Wim Hof   to understand   how this how his   he can control his body.   And one of the things that he started was a polar bear club   in his, in his, town that he was in.   And he because of the being in the polar bear club, doing   the the breathing exercises and controlling and and   and controlling   what   his body the way that he was is able to do, he was able to get his hands back.  

[02:09:51] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[02:09:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. He was able to revert,   interestingly enough, reverse that rheumatoid arthritis, all the joint destruction that had happened.   Fascinating book. And that's where I kinda started going ahead and I mean, I've always been a a shorts kid   growing up in, you know, during we'd have snowstorms. And   most of us boys   in in in my hometown   just when we were we were one of the the one of the first classes that was allowed   to wear shorts to school.   Right?   And so   we were like, yeah. We're not letting this go.   And nowadays, I mean, you've   got, like, the my kids' school when they were going to school. They   you can wear you can wear them all the way up to a certain point, but after, I think it was, like, around October,   you had to start wearing pants. They would only allow pants   until,   like,   the March, April.  

I was like, well, why? You why not just wear shorts, you know, the the whole, you know, the whole school year? It's not like it's not like they're setting out a cold the whole darn time.   You know? They're inside of a, of a a classroom. It's it's adequately   adequately   heated, not always to the to the tip you'd like it to be, but, you know, it's adequately heated.   Right. Right. But and that's what we used to do is, when I was growing up, we'd go I'd walk to school in snowstorms,   T shirt or well, not a T shirt. I'd always had you know, I'd have a coat, but I'd still have, you know, my jean shorts. Look like, you know, look like a look like your quintessential   modern dad.  

Even back in high school, we we had denim shorts, the cargo pants, you know, or cargo shorts, something like that.   And so, yeah, we would   and we all it didn't bother us. I mean,   if we had to stand outside for a little while, yeah, you'd see people's kneecap jumping all over the place, but   that was just that was just how, you know, that's just how we did it. That's how we rolled until we got,   then we got   old enough to be able to drive, and, by god, we were we were gonna drive. And still, we drove with shorts.   We'd have we'd have our coats and   our our Letterman jacket on   and and shorts, and that was that was just how we did it.  



[02:12:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. I never I never did that. When it was did that. No. When it was cold, I bundled up.   That's just   that's just how I roll.  

[02:12:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, maybe maybe you need to start rolling a little polar bearish.   No. No. I'm not.  

[02:12:32] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No. No. No. Obviously, you're not. You're below. I've been in 40 below   with with wind chills, with with the wind blowing twenty, thirty, 40 mile an hour. I'm good, man. I'm good. I promise you.   I have been in these   tapes of weathers,   and they they have not served me well.  

[02:12:56] Unknown:

However, you remember them quite well.  

[02:12:59] Rich Chelson:

I'm a great.   That's why I live in Southern Mississippi   down by the Gulf.   Yeah. I didn't I didn't get a chance to play no AM radio today. I'm gonna try and play play tomorrow   because I I mean, I mean, everything's working for this weekend. So   you know, because that contest is this weekend. So   I'm kinda looking forward to that. I'm glad signals are coming back.  

[02:13:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[02:13:26] Rich Chelson:

You know?   Because, yeah, I don't know. I just I just like it when, you know, when I   when, well, because you see a lot of times when we type a call sign in when we're talking to somebody  

[02:13:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[02:13:40] Rich Chelson:

You know, brings up their name, address, and all that. You know what I mean?   Mhmm.   And so   I've I've noticed this. We've we've gone to using first names,   and it's actually kinda cool because,   you know, people feel   you know, it's it's it's true what they say.   You know, if you're talking with someone   and you and you use their first name, it it makes you feel good,   you know, to Yeah. For,   you know, to hear your own name. You know? And so, like   like, the other day when when I was on the radio,   there there was a few guys   that I talked to, and, you know,   when I typed their call in, it brought the information up. And,   I, you know, called them by name and everything, and you can kinda notice a difference in their voice.  

You know what I mean?   So   but yeah. And they're they're like, oh, man. Thank you for Mississippi because,   apparently, not a lot of people play ham radio in Mississippi.   Really? Yeah. It's weird because, like, in and and there's actually a lot of hams down here.   Okay?   And, like, during contests,   I've looked at the scores.   Right?   And in in, Mississippi,   I see on the average between five and ten people   that   that participate in contest.   You know?   And it's like, I don't know why. You know?   I'm like, you know, do a contest. It's fun.   Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it's a pain, but, you know,   that just comes with the territory.  



[02:15:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[02:15:25] Rich Chelson:

You know? And and it's and it's funny when I talk to people up north during the wintertime, they talk about how cold it is. I just sit here and think,   yes.   I'm in I'm in my warm house.   I ain't gotta go outside.   And if I do, it's maybe 45 degrees. I can kinda deal with that   as long as long as I have a coat on.   I'm not going out in shorts. I tell you that right now.   So   oh, shoot. A freaking contest. Hold it. What is tomorrow? Is tomorrow Friday?   Yes. Yep. Oh, shit. Contest starts tomorrow evening at seven.  

[02:16:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Whoop.   Whoop. Whoop.  

[02:16:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It just hit me. I was like, oh, shit. Because it runs Do do the montage with the eye of the tiger.   No. Yeah. It starts at 07:00 tomorrow night,   goes through Sunday night at 07:00.  

[02:16:22] Bryan Goodwin:

There we go.  

[02:16:23] Rich Chelson:

This is a long one.   This one's 48 hour.   So   Alright. I can't wait I can't wait for these other contests. You know? They do have a winter field day.   And now last year,   it was butt ass cold up here or down here. Right? You know, when we had all that snow and shit? Right. Right? Because winter field day   you know,   the whole point of winter field day is to go out,   set up your station, and then operate with   with emergency power, like batteries, generator, whatever. Right?  

[02:17:01] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:17:02] Rich Chelson:

And I thought about it   until it snowed eight inches,   like, two weeks before the contest. I'm like, no. I'm keeping my ass inside.   I'm not going outside.   Not gonna do it. No.   I'm not gonna do it. It's not prudent at this juncture. At this juncture.  

[02:17:24] Bryan Goodwin:

So  

[02:17:25] Rich Chelson:

so   now this year, I don't know. I'm hoping we have more of a regular,   winter down here.   So if it's,   you know, if it's, like, in the forties,   I   might   set up outside.   Might.   It's still it's still a ways away. It's it's   when is it?   January.   So I'm gonna look and see if it's   it's on a weekend.   So this year or for 2026,   it'd be   the twenty fourth and twenty fifth,   something like that.   So   we'll see if I venture outside.   Yeah. It's Saturday and Sunday. See, I'll be twenty fourth and twenty fifth   next year.   Okay.   So   when I called and made   made a couple more appointments at the VA.  



[02:18:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah? Yeah.  

[02:18:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I'm going to ortho   on the thirtieth. I've got my regular checkup in my   labs.   I gotta do that day. So I'm gonna do ortho that day.   And then in November, I'm gonna go get my hearing retested   because   trust me. Well, dude will find out when he comes down here if I turn TV on. It'll freaking blow him out the water.  

[02:18:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Get you some of them some of them Bluetooth,   headphones that   you're able to control the,   roll the volume on.  

[02:19:02] Rich Chelson:

Actually,   well, it depends on my hearing test.   But if it's if it's gotten worse,   I think I might go after, the Bluetooth hearing aids.  

[02:19:13] Bryan Goodwin:

They've got them. I I know. I know. But what the reason I laugh is because I saw this meme.   I can't remember if it's Facebook, Reddit, or where. But anyhow,   it is   me playing shows us shows someone sitting there   sitting in front of a computer like it like, they're playing. It's like me playing playing Call of Duty wondering why there's no sound.   My grandfather in in the next room and his, with his Bluetooth hearing aids connected. It just shows shows this guy, and he's all he his all his eyes are all big, and he's got in the background, all these tanks and shit going off.   So we're living this shit, having a flashback.  



[02:19:57] Rich Chelson:

Oh, man.   But yeah. No. It was it wasn't last year. Year four was that stubborn. There's this guy. He was in his seventies.   He was a veteran, and these are Bluetooth hearing aids.   You charge with a type c cable.  

[02:20:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.  

[02:20:13] Rich Chelson:

Okay? And   you can tie your TV,   your phone   right to them.   Yeah. And it's like you know, I and, I mean, then, I mean,  

[02:20:24] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, I mean I mean, my hearing has been bad, you know, even back then. I'm thinking,  

[02:20:30] Rich Chelson:

And that guy looked at both me and Matt and was like, y'all ever need hearing aids, make the VA give you these. These things are the best things since cupcakes.   And he's like, I just have to charge them once a day.   They take about, I don't know, less than an hour to charge.   And he was like, man, I'm good to go.   I'm like, okay.  

[02:20:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Amazing.   Yeah.  

[02:20:53] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, we'll see.   Because yeah. I mean I mean, right now, I mean, I've got captions turned on, and I normally have to turn the TV up. You know? Just Right. You know, noise decent. And then sometimes when I'm playing the piano,   a lot of times I can hear,   but but sometimes   and I don't know why. And I gotta ask the doc about this.   Sometimes   is that   it gets muffled,   and I can't   and I can't hear the how the notes sound, and it screws me up.   Right. You know, if I'm trying to play a chord and it sounds all funky, I'm like, uh-uh. You know, I stopped trying to figure it out, and I'm playing. You know, I've got the right fingering.   It just doesn't sound right in my head.  

So,   I don't know. I'm gonna see  

[02:21:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[02:21:45] Rich Chelson:

When I get my ears tested.   Right. Y'all know when I do.  

[02:21:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Because me and Ronald sit there and be talking like this. You're going, shut up. Quit yelling at me so much.   Alright.  

[02:21:59] Rich Chelson:

Or or or if you say, Rich, Rich, and I don't answer, you'd be like, hang your hearing aids up.  

[02:22:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Alma,   turn your hearing aids up. Oh, I love that. I'm a sister act.   Yeah.  

[02:22:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   That'd be me, probably.   I forgot to charge them or something, and I can't hear shit. Yeah. Yeah. You're just sitting there just.  

[02:22:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Everyone's like, so what do you say, Rich?   Rich,   look over there, and you're just bee bopping along to your own little world.   Right.   Why do that? Wave at you and go, hey. Hey.   No sound.  

[02:22:41] Rich Chelson:

No. I mean I mean, this has been going on for a while. You know? I just been   well, I've been vain.   You know? Right.   Or prideful, you could say. However you wanna call it. It's like Mhmm. I don't really wanna do it because that means I've got to that's just one more thing I've got to admit.  

[02:22:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You gotta admit that you're   you're you're getting slightly decrepit,   ever so slightly.  

[02:23:06] Rich Chelson:

Thank you for trying, Brian, but please don't   I don't wanna think about that.   I mean, I mean, come on. Seriously, man. That just got I'm young, damn it.   Right?  

[02:23:21] Bryan Goodwin:

I I keep telling myself that. Well, I keep telling myself that too. And My Sadly, the past couple weeks, I have looked in the mirror and gone, goddamn. When does that get old?   Right. It sneaks up on you, dude. Yeah. It's like out of nowhere. It's like, god dang, man.   I've I've got I've got Samsonites   tagged underneath my eyes to these days. So it's like, jeez. When did I pick those up?  

[02:23:48] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:23:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. For you young folks out there, Samsonite is luggage. I have bags under my eyes.   Okay?  

[02:23:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. If there's if there's if there's anyone listening to us or,   you know, or after we post this and they listen to it, they'll probably just roll on the floor and think we're crazier than who'd else.  

[02:24:11] Unknown:

No. Oh,  

[02:24:13] Rich Chelson:

dude, did you fall asleep?   Yep.   Hang on.   Dude and I dude and I talked about this  

[02:24:21] Bryan Goodwin:

couple weeks ago. I was gonna say, send them a shoot them an email. Shoot them a text. Shoot them a text. Yep. I am.  

[02:24:27] Rich Chelson:

I am.  

[02:24:28] Bryan Goodwin:

I wish they still had   Back when smartphones   first came out,   Android   had   a had a a an app that was amazing. It was called a text bomb.   And once you get it, that would annoy my son with it. Of course, I'd also if he didn't respond to me, I would use it on him. So it was like, hey, man. I need I need to know where you're at. And so I would set it. I would type out what the email needed to be. You'd use it well, what you do is you'd use, open up this this app,   and you type the message the text message that you wanted.   And then underneath it, how many times do you wanna send it?  

And you could yeah. You and it would and you could put, you know, five, ten. You know? You wanted to do 75. They had a limit because,   you know, after after a certain bit, it gets starts to get flagged to spam.   Right. But it was some it was something like fifty fifty or a 100. It was it was enough to where it got really annoying after a while.   And so   I kinda wish they still had that so you could go off and, like, hey.   Shoot, shoot off about 50 text messages that would just go clock, clock, clock,   clock, clock, one right after the other.   Just get up. You know? Find the app and, rework it and, you know Oh, no. They it's it's one of those that's been been,   they've they've   this is back when even back in let's see what was,   oh, what was g? Gumdrop or, gummy yeah. Gumdrop.  

This is Android Gumdrop.   Because they used to do Android used to be named after food items.   So you had Yeah. Yeah. Version   version one. You had   well, the third version was cupcake.   That's about the time that I came in. I think that's actually it was like in   either cupcake or   whatever Android's d   were d dessert   name was.   And so around that area is when,   me and I me and Jaden   and the family got into, into smartphones, and we were using using Android because, well,   it was,   a, more affordable, but two,   you could model. You could actually go off and select the, the do a put a ROM on your on your phone and have a completely different version of Android on it. It was amazing. I used to use Cyanogen mod all the damn time. It was a great   great mod. You could do a lot more things. There was more tools available. You could if you were a Android power user, you did not use   base   Android for   whatever. I started out with the I was an HTC   I can't even remember what the name of the damn thing was, but it was a big old HTC   black   black slab of, of a phone. It was back when they were first starting to get bigger.  

Okay. I don't know.   You okay there?   Yeah. You okay, or is he having a stroke?  

[02:27:35] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. I've   I've I've tried   to   I've sent him, like, 10 Facebook messages, like, five texts,   and, you know, I figured   the noise would   override him. I'm a call him here.  

[02:27:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Need to need to find a, get a device that is, tied to his tied to his phone via   via Bluetooth.   And so whenever you call whenever you call them, it or, you text them from your number, it, it activates like a punching bag or something or   boxing glove that come out and pop them on the on the forehead or something.  

[02:28:15] Unknown:

How rude.  

[02:28:17] Bryan Goodwin:

I know. That'd be awesome, wouldn't it? But there's I don't know. Keep them on his toes.   Yeah.   Just just a random time to start texting them. I don't know. What the hell?  

[02:28:28] Rich Chelson:

No. I called dude, and,   I heard, like, and then he hung up.  

[02:28:33] Unknown:

Oh, that was my chair.  

[02:28:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Dude,  

[02:28:37] Rich Chelson:

we was worried about you.  

[02:28:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. We heard a So we're like, oh, is he is he stolen? He's had a stroke being in in process.   So  

[02:28:48] Rich Chelson:

Hey. Check your Facebook Messenger. I sent you, like, 10 things.   Yeah. You did. And, like, and, like, five texts.   And then when I didn't hear your voice, I called you. And you hung up on me. You know, what's up with that?  

[02:29:03] Unknown:

Because you, got my attention.  

[02:29:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's just that's like, rude.   That's rude. So just hung up on me. They're like, man, they don't like me no more.   No?  

[02:29:18] Unknown:

So Did I Anyhow  

[02:29:19] Bryan Goodwin:

so, well, it is good to be close to that times that, start getting the old the old bird landed now that we've   got got   the dude back, and   and we can hear his, his parting shots when it comes to time. I'm gonna have to say thank you all, everyone who is listening to the show, who's all the new and the returning listeners.   It is a a great pleasure to know that y'all are are coming in and listening to the show,   hanging out, and, and and join enjoying our our discussions that we are having. And with that,   it's   it gives me a a sense of of of joy and accomplishment that we do have returning listeners, and it's it's an amazing   sensation to, to experience.  

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Two grumpy vets and a dude are live right now. You wanna listen to them while they're playing or while they're talking, you can actually listen to it then. And with that podcast two point o app, you can actually even send in messages, and we would reply to them. We will have   live one on one discussions   with folks who send   since the send us a a message through Boostagrams.   Another another one of the great things about   podcasting two point o is that   we're able to recommend   other shows. You wanna know what shows two Grumpy Vets and a dude recommend?   Well, grab a, grab a   a a copy of   podcast guru,   Pod Home,   True Fans are three great apps that you can that you can use. And most of if I'm thinking about all three of those   are   available on both Android and iOS.  

And with there, you can   see what app what other shows we recommend.   If there's you can even go through as far as recommend   particular episodes   of a show.   So there are a lot of different options that are available. Another one is the the funding tag. You can actually   send your support to the show because we are a value for value show.   This means that   if you found value in the show and you wanna   try to help us out, say we are just absolute you're seeing how we, how we do our our   our social media work and and things like that, and you're going, dude, you just absolutely are horrible at this. So we're gonna you're gonna hear us go, yeah. Yeah. You're right. We are.   Could you help us? Well, if we you found enough value in what we're doing   that you wanted to spend, you know, maybe an hour sending out   good,   well crafted social media posts about what about the show and about the episodes.  

You're not gonna see us stop you. We're not gonna go, well, hey. That's copyrighted   and stuff. It's just, hey. Thank you.   Get let us just just mark it to we all you know,   that we are who we are   and let people know that, hey. There's there's two grumpy best of the dude. There's there's there's   odd podcast that's out there of,   of of three heads and one brain, and it it's got its own little job going on. It's kinda cool.   And so you can give a contributing time,   sharing out, telling people that, hey. There's this this podcast is out here.   Going going on to,   to other,   other, you know,   going on to to different groups like Facebook groups or in the subreddits, things like that, and talking about talking about the show. That's great ways of being able to help us out.  

If you have talent, you can also help us. So if you're good at   doing, you know,   web design   and you would like to be able to help that way, you'd like to go and do this websites you have is is crap. Let's get some get some stuff going.   We'd love to have your have you throw your expertise   over to us. And if you are a you are graphic designer, again, another example of   help us out where you can. We'd love to have someone   who could spend the time doing   chapter   art and doing episodic art. We'd love to have people start contributing   what they think would be a good episode,   episodic art   to us. And and that way, we can actually start sharing or start   contributing and applying those those arts to arts to the different   episodes and to the to the different chapters that we have. If you wanna help make the chapters, love to have that. There's a lot of different ways that you can help, and that's time, talent, and then there's treasure. If you wanna just say, hey, man. Like what you do. Here's some money to help with,   hosting fees.  

We would love that,   that support too, and that's all we all we ask from   from you is if you found value   in what we've done, then please contribute value back. That's all that's all it is. And when you do that, it allows us to continue   making the,   making the show, puts a little gas in the tank when we hear something back from you. And we'd love to be able to have those types of   interactions, those those discussions coming back and forth. And so that's that's one reason why we've chosen to do our the the, podcasting two point o way because it is   so   much better and so much more   available and and and and and valuable   for for what what you can get.  

So if you have any comments or questions or anything like that, you can reach out to us. You can shoot us an email over over at my email. That's circle cast, circlecast,@gmail.com.   If you wanna get ahold of Rich, that is r chelson, chelson,@gmail.com.   Both of them are great ways to get ahold of us. Do you wanna get ahold of dude?   We all struggle with trying to   get dude's email address. So it's just better if you send it over to us, and we'll get it over to dude. So it just makes life a lot easier. So   with that, I wanna say again, thank y'all. And, Rich, what do you have to say?  



[02:36:49] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   not too much, really. Just wanna thank everybody for listening and still coming around.   Shoot.   But by Pod Home standards, we've got over 3,000 downloads   since we started this.   Now I know that's not   the o p three stats.   I'm still having a hard time getting on that site. But, anyway, I mean, we got people listening and   not just in America, all over the world.   You know? We got many different countries. I think our next highest one is, like, Thailand   or something.   Wow. I know. Right? It's crazy, and I I love it. You know? And, I mean so, you know, if y'all are listening to this   you know, if you make it this far, send us an email or or,   you know, read the, a description   in your, podcast app   because I always put our email addresses, and that's [email protected]   or me at [email protected].  

And I always put those in the in the description.   So send us an email. Let us know what you think if we make you laugh, cry, groan,   moan, throw things. You know, let us know.   You know, we'd be happy to hear from you. And like Brian said, you know, if you wanna hear the wisdom of the dude, just send   either one of us an email because,   yeah, his freaking email address is a nightmare.   I let Google finish it for me. Let's just put it that way.   I don't even try to remember dude's email.   But, yeah, thanks for listening.   Share this out with your friends, your family, your loved ones, shit, people you hate. You know? Give them a laugh.  

You know? Who knows? Y'all might become friends one day because of it. And if you do, by god, I'm damn proud to do this.   And I know dude and Brian feel the same way. So Absolutely.   That's all I got there. So, dude, what you got? You still awake?  

[02:38:49] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm still awake. Okay.   As Rich   mentioned before,   thank you for everybody that does continue to listen to us. And,   you know,   please send us an email on   any topics that you would like us   to discuss   and or   to destroy   through our conversations   just to see how far we'll go down a rabbit hole.   But, again, we'd love to hear from you and get your opinions and   get your   comments   to help us,   you know,   do better ourselves as what you think, you know, what type of show that you would like to have. And,   we can,   you know, definitely answer your questions.   May not be the right answer,   maybe the right answer,  

[02:39:42] Rich Chelson:

but you'll just never know. But it will be the right answer. It will be an answer. That's the important part.  

[02:39:48] Unknown:

It'll be an answer.  

[02:39:52] Bryan Goodwin:

So so anyhow, with that, guys,   I wanna say thank you all again for coming on to the show and, and sitting down and seeing what   what what weird topics happen to crop up, and and and y'all throwing y'all's y'all's 2¢ in. And so we can actually come up with 6 pennies,   and it it's it's kind of a, kind of a nice deal. I appreciate   the relationship relationship and the friendship that y'all have, and we will,   I'm looking forward to to next week.   So, guys, and everybody listening,   thank y'all again. Y'all take care. Talk to y'all later.   Bye.  

Peace.   Peace out.  

[02:40:32] Rich Chelson:

Alright, guys. Later. Later. Later. Have a good one. Later.  

[02:40:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Bye.   Bye.