Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this episode of "Two Grumpy Vets," we dive into a lively conversation filled with humor, nostalgia, and a touch of social commentary. Join Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude as they navigate through a myriad of topics, starting with the challenges of maintaining a stable internet connection and the quirks of technology. The trio reminisces about classic TV shows like "Hawaii Five-O" and the differences between the original and the new versions.

As the conversation unfolds, the hosts share personal anecdotes about friendships formed in the military, the unique camaraderie among veterans, and the playful banter that often confuses outsiders. They reflect on the changing weather patterns and the humorous struggles of adapting to sudden temperature shifts.

The discussion takes a turn towards movies, with a focus on sequels like "Gladiator 2" and "Top Gun Maverick," exploring the challenges and successes of creating follow-ups to beloved classics. The hosts also delve into the world of college education, the perceived shortcomings of modern schooling, and the generational differences in coping with life's challenges.

Throughout the episode, the hosts share laughs over dad jokes, the quirks of military life, and the unexpected connections that life sometimes throws our way. They touch on the importance of self-reliance, the value of trade schools, and the ever-evolving landscape of the trucking industry.

Join us for a fun-filled episode that captures the essence of friendship, the joy of shared experiences, and the importance of living life intentionally.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to two grumpy vets. And, duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to step together and live life intentionally.  

[00:00:11] Rich Chelson:

We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together.   Commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living, having weekly conversations  

[00:00:22] Bryan Goodwin:

is a good way  

[00:00:23] Rich Chelson:

to help each other   out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude.   Alright. We'll see how long we can hang out on here.   Let's see. And it'll let dude know there's a.  

[00:00:48] Duuude-Ron :

Hey, Brian. Do you hear me? I do now. Yes. Okay.   Where are you at tonight?  

[00:00:55] Rich Chelson:

I'm over in Bowie, and I don't know if they've just got problems with their antenna their cell towers or what,   but, no, I've been I've been on   I'll be online and all of a sudden, boop. Hey. We're not online anymore.   Be in the middle of a phone call. I was talking to Scott, and all of a sudden, hello. Hello.   Try to go anywhere. Can't go anywhere.   Takes about twenty five minutes for the tower or whatever it is. It's whatever the problem is to rectify itself. And  

[00:01:25] Duuude-Ron :

It's,   system must be,  

[00:01:28] Rich Chelson:

acting up. That's kinda what I was thinking. At first, I was like, oh, shit. Do I have to pay the bill? Yeah. No. I paid the bill. I made the bill.  

[00:01:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. That's,   yeah. Yeah. When you said that, I'm like, well, that's cool. You know, we figured it out one way or another. Oh, yeah.  

[00:01:47] Rich Chelson:

Dude.  

[00:01:49] Unknown:

Gentlemen   and Rich.   Mahalo.  

[00:01:55] Duuude-Ron :

Aloha.  

[00:01:57] Unknown:

Aloha.   Well, I don't know about the but we'll go with the Aloha.   Well, sure. Service.  

[00:02:06] Duuude-Ron :

Do you know what I'm saying? Aloha.   I've been I've been watching Hawaii five o.  

[00:02:17] Unknown:

You know, I really like I don't like the new one. I loved   the original,   but I'm really not into the new one.  

[00:02:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you see you see that's the thing, dude.   You try and match the original with the new one, and you can't do that.   You've got to look at each show separately.  

[00:02:40] Unknown:

Well, I understand that. I just it And he doesn't like the new one.  

[00:02:45] Duuude-Ron :

And I the new one does not interest me. Well, I mean, that's fine. I mean, you know,  

[00:02:51] Unknown:

I I I got it. If you're having a great time watching it, absolutely.   Knock yourself out.   I'll even give you the I'll even give you the rock to do it with.  

[00:03:01] Duuude-Ron :

Well, by god, man, I that that just like, oh, man. I'm I'm I'm about   to shed tears in of joy here.   You're gonna do that for me, really, I think.  

[00:03:14] Unknown:

Just wanted just wanted to share the love.   You know you know how much love we share on this podcast.  

[00:03:21] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right.  

[00:03:24] Unknown:

You know, it's amazing that,   our conversations,   were   are like me and Patrick's   conversation.   And, I mean, we used to get on the military jeepers, and, I mean, we would dog,   I mean,   dog each other out   on   statements.   You know? He'd say something to me. I'd say something to him, ruder, and then he'd come back even worse. And we're sitting there laughing.   You know? When we get the messages from each other, we're just chuckling   or, you know, grinning.   And we had several members   of the Jeep Club going,   why do you even   interact with each other because you hate each other so badly?  

And actors were like,   I guess you just don't get it, and you probably never will.  

[00:04:21] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. So.   Yeah. Just say that's the thing. People people think if you don't act like them, it's it's,   you know, it's not right. You know? It's not it's not good.   And Yeah. They don't get it, but not everybody is like them.  

[00:04:39] Unknown:

Yeah. And   ever since I've met Patrick, and I haven't even it was   at a cheaping   military jeepers event,   and we just, you know,   hit it off   very well. You know, both of us, you know,   with our,   you know,   military backgrounds and experiences that we have had,   you know, we can really relate. Unlike, you know, there's a lot of people in that Jeep club. You know what?   I   I won't have a conversation with him. You know? Right. But I don't   I don't like them, and, you know, they probably don't like me either, which is fine. You know? Right. Ain't gonna hurt my feelings, none.   But   it was you know, we just   so we can beat each other up like that, and we find it   hilarious   who can who can dog the worst.  

Right.   So and that's why I like dogging you so much, Rich. It's just   it it it just makes me   all warm and fuzzy all over.  

[00:05:52] Duuude-Ron :

I can tell, man. I can I can feel the fuzziness?  

[00:05:56] Unknown:

I don't you get out. I mean,   it's shag   carpet fuzzy.  

[00:06:04] Rich Chelson:

Oh, man. I I don't wanna know about your your chest hair, man.  

[00:06:12] Unknown:

Well, you know, it it it surely ain't on top of my head because it's all receded to my back.   So, you know and that's okay.   I can deal with it. You know?  

[00:06:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, well. I guess. So  

[00:06:36] Unknown:

and what we were talking about last night, the what I had mentioned with the weather,   holy shit. I looked on the freaking thing. Uh-huh. Sat or Saturday,   high, roughly 87.   Sunday morning,   low, 34.  

[00:06:55] Duuude-Ron :

Holy   shit.   Oh, my lord.  

[00:07:01] Unknown:

With that.  

[00:07:06] Duuude-Ron :

And the phone is acting up.  

[00:07:10] Unknown:

Am I doing Chinese stuff?  

[00:07:13] Rich Chelson:

Yep. You there, dude? You you're you're you're fading on us, dude.  

[00:07:19] Unknown:

Okay.   How am I coming in now?   Loud and clear.  

[00:07:23] Rich Chelson:

Alright. So So keep your head tilted that direction.  

[00:07:27] Unknown:

Alright. I will do that.   That's gonna hurt after a while. That's for damn sure.  

[00:07:36] Duuude-Ron :

Did not need to know that, but thank you anyway.  

[00:07:39] Unknown:

And, you know, I'm already old, so it already everything hurts. You know? That's just, you know, after a 16   jump to the military, you know, that's just my life.   Everything hurts.   But within fourteen   roughly fourteen hours is gonna be a 50   degree difference   in less than fourteen hours.  

[00:08:04] Duuude-Ron :

That's man, that's that's sad. I love cold fronts.  

[00:08:08] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. And then all next week,   the highs,   low fifties.   No. Low fifties at the best.  

[00:08:18] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. No. See. Uh-uh.   See. We're   we're in the seven we were in the I've got the AC on. Okay?   So do I. We were that warm today, and it ain't supposed to drop below sunny,   sunny five, sunny four   until   yeah. Well, not in   I don't know when because it says   till the fifteenth,   we're supposed to be in the, mid seventies.  

[00:08:48] Unknown:

So   Hopefully, this cold front doesn't hit you guys.  

[00:08:53] Duuude-Ron :

I hope not.   God.  

[00:08:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's like,   well, hell. I mean, we're I was over at, over in Jefferson last night. Got up this morning.   67 degrees was the temp.   That's about right. That's good. Yeah. It was good. Yeah. Yeah. I drove   up to Oklahoma City. It was 47 degrees.  

[00:09:17] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. Yeah.  

[00:09:20] Rich Chelson:

And then  

[00:09:21] Unknown:

A 30 degree a 30 degree of drop in how many hours of travel? Oh, about five hours.  

[00:09:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. I'd had to turn around and tell the boss I cannot complete that load for today.  

[00:09:37] Rich Chelson:

I couldn't. Oh, wasn't that bad?  

[00:09:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. Yeah. It is. It is.  

[00:09:43] Rich Chelson:

For you, it might be that bad. But for me, you know, you know, I'm did it in the sweatshirt and shorts on top of that. So Oh my god.  

[00:09:52] Duuude-Ron :

Wearing shorts, but oh, yeah. It's a little chilly. Let me put on a sweatshirt. Oh, my arms get cold,  

[00:09:58] Rich Chelson:

but my legs are wooly enough. They they, they they withstand the   the cold. So but, no, I do. I I wear   I most of the most people make fun of me whenever they finally see me in pants. They're like, holy shit. You do wear a pair of pants.   Yeah. Yeah. I've I've got two. I've got two pairs, actually.  

[00:10:20] Unknown:

And then and then, of course, you had your titties on your feet. Right?  

[00:10:24] Rich Chelson:

No. No. I didn't have any titties that that time. I still wear just because they're exposed toe shoes. So,   you know, like, some of the places really frown upon having exposed toe shoes.   So   Oh, okay. So I I I wear my my my titty runners.  

[00:10:42] Unknown:

Okay.   I wish I could do that.  

[00:10:47] Duuude-Ron :

No. See, there there there is nothing about that statement Brian made   that that brings me to to the thought of I really want to see that.   So that just scares the shit out of me. What? You've seen me in shorts.   Well, shorts, yes. But you said titty runner.  

[00:11:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One. Otherwise known as sneakers.   Oh, that's okay. Okay. Yeah. Well, no one no one's no one hears me whenever I, when I have my sneakers on. So  

[00:11:19] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:11:20] Rich Chelson:

Because you're quiet. Exactly. I'm sneaky.  

[00:11:25] Unknown:

With sneakers?   Exactly.   Yeah.  

[00:11:31] Rich Chelson:

I pulled that joke on Jana once   at Walmart   and, because I walked up behind her and I I put my arm on her shoulder, and she jumped. And she was like, oh my god. I didn't know you're behind me. I was like, oh, well, that's because I had my sneakers on. And there's a little old lady just standing beside me, and boy, she just thought that was the funniest damn thing she'd ever heard in her life.   Yep.  

[00:11:58] Duuude-Ron :

Damn. The dad jokes are flying early. Well, the best one's,  

[00:12:02] Rich Chelson:

best dad joke that I've given so far I I'll give it multiple times   at at,   over at, at Walmart or any grocery store.   If I'm doing something and I have somebody come by and say, excuse me,   best thing to but I'll it's gotten automatic nowadays, but when they say excuse me, it's like, oh, I don't mind as long as I don't smell it   and just leave it like that.   And most people will kinda   what?   What?   Oh,   and then it'll finally hit. And then others, they'll they'll just it'll hit up just just right off the bat, and, you know, it's just they'll they'll roll with it. But,   yeah, that that was one of my favorite ones.  



[00:12:47] Duuude-Ron :

Say say that you know how you'd say that, but my brain doesn't work that fast sometime a lot of times.   So  

[00:12:56] Unknown:

And you're right. I re I resemble that remark, Rich. My you know,   one of the guys that I one of the other drivers that I work with, he is really fast with the with the   jokes   and, you know,   punchlines and comebacks. And, you know,   a lot of the times, he'll say something. I'm like,   okay.   And then a couple minutes later, it's like, ah,   okay.   Ping.   The light came on.   I'm just yeah. I'm with you, Rich. I'm just not  

[00:13:34] Rich Chelson:

quick on the draw like that. Oh, well, I mean, there's times I'm not quick on the draw either. I mean, hell, I had a I had a friend that used to,   who told me a joke, and it literally   took about ten years for it to finally just kinda hit.  

[00:13:51] Duuude-Ron :

Damn, dude.  

[00:13:52] Rich Chelson:

What it do? Travel out to the moon and back? I get it. It it went somewhere. But, anyhow, no. My   my friend Jake,   he was, he told he's, like, just he was the kind of the master of the, of the jokes,   in in our group. So he was always spouting something off, and he is like, hey. You know what you call a gladiator with hair between your teeth?   And I was like, oh, I don't know what. And he said, gladiator. I was like,   okay.   And went on.   Didn't get it. Just went   just like just like Ron.   You know, just right over there.  

[00:14:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And It's I've I've got the same thing going here, dude. So please  

[00:14:36] Rich Chelson:

And so enlighten me. Oh, I I will. I will. So about ten years goes by,   and I don't know why it all of a sudden came along and hit me in the back of the head.   Glad he ate her.   And I laughed   and laughed, and I'm sure the people over at ITL thought I was just losing my fucking marbles.   But they just like, because, I mean, I just I started laughing, and I couldn't stop freaking laughing.   And and everybody's like, what? It's like, it's it's an old joke that just finally hit me.   But yeah. Yep.   Gladiator with hair between his or, Roman with hair between his teeth, a gladiator.  

[00:15:22] Duuude-Ron :

So yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. See, I I never   yeah. That that one would've just   I probably never would've even guessed that even after ten years.  

[00:15:35] Rich Chelson:

So   but, yeah, that's that's probably one of my best best memories I have with my old high school buddy. So  

[00:15:42] Duuude-Ron :

That's funny. That's I gotta say that's fun. Oh, speaking of Gladiator,   have y'all seen Gladiator two yet? Nope. Not yet.  

[00:15:51] Unknown:

Not yet. I haven't.  

[00:15:53] Duuude-Ron :

If and and if you haven't watched Gladiator,   the original,   watch the original one, and then watch the second one. And   because, I   mean, if first,   sequel,   I got to admit. I I remember what? Remember a couple weeks back? We were talking about,   sequels not being good.  

[00:16:13] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:16:14] Duuude-Ron :

I got to say this one is on par.  

[00:16:17] Rich Chelson:

This A lot of people are saying that. It's one of those Yeah. Rare sequels that actually   carries through. And guess sadly, guess what? They're already talking gladiator three.  

[00:16:31] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.   And it's been  

[00:16:34] Unknown:

how many years since Gladiator  

[00:16:36] Rich Chelson:

came out? I don't know. Let's see. Oh, shoot. I can't remember. Well, I I've got IMDB here. Let me look it up.  

[00:16:44] Unknown:

Of course you're gonna look it up. I would not expect anything less of you.   I am.  

[00:16:50] Duuude-Ron :

Came out in February.   See, I just thousand. I just Google searched it.  

[00:16:57] Unknown:

So twenty five years difference   for a sequel.  

[00:17:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And it it was   it it was still it was good. Now I gotta say it was freaking good.   Gladiator   two was really, really well,   but I don't see   where they would have enough for a third.  

[00:17:21] Unknown:

Now is it   between the two? Is it   basically the same plot line all the way through the movie?  

[00:17:31] Duuude-Ron :

No. It extends gladiator   one.  

[00:17:34] Unknown:

It Oh, okay. It  

[00:17:37] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. Basically, what it does and and this is why it's so good.   They make references to the first one.   Okay?   And Lucius,   the main character in the second one, was,   Max   Maximus'   son.   And so   you have to watch it. I I don't wanna ruin it for Brian.  

[00:18:04] Unknown:

But So so the new emperor   was Lucius?  

[00:18:09] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No. The bloody is here. No. He got, apparently, from what I've heard people kinda mention about it is that,   his son, Maximus' son gets sent off to, like, Africa, then somewhere along the way, he gets   converted back into a slave, and so he has to do this. It's kind of the same thing that his dad does. Yeah. And and, see, the thing is, he didn't  

[00:18:33] Duuude-Ron :

he didn't wanna believe   because his mom sent him away   when when he was real young.   And and   his mom was still, you know, big high up   when   when he came back, and and she realized it was him finally,   and he didn't wanna believe her.   And then finally, at the end, he believed her   and everything. And,   but see, that's the thing. I I don't I don't see where there's enough   enough of a storyline for a third one.   It's possible.   I ain't saying it ain't, but it's possible.  

[00:19:12] Unknown:

You know? And the the two   extended   time frame sequels that I really enjoy   is Top Gun   and then Top Gun Maverick.  

[00:19:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I mean I mean, Top Gun was great.   Maverick   was okay.   I thought.  

[00:19:38] Unknown:

You know, to me,   they were pretty well,   in Ron's opinion, pretty well equal.  

[00:19:45] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:19:50] Unknown:

But, you know, hey.  

[00:19:55] Duuude-Ron :

It just I guess   I guess for me, it's it's just you know, I know Goose stays in in Top Gun, and   I was just I was just kinda looking for Goose again.   You know?  

[00:20:08] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:20:09] Duuude-Ron :

But it's More Goose. In the second one, and and it's such a   little dickhead.   Well, he is. I mean, I think.  

[00:20:23] Unknown:

Well,   yeah. And,   well,   and follow the circumstances   of why,   especially to especially to,   Maverick.   Yeah. And that's Yeah. But Yeah. And that's the plot line. But, see, the thing is, though, you see  

[00:20:45] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. You you see, that's the thing.   Goose's son,   you know, had all that time.   Yusuf's son   knew what happened   as he grew up. I I mean   Yeah. You know? I mean I mean, he was he was holding hate   for this guy   for for Maverick.   Okay? He was holding hate for   him   because well, most kids do that nowadays because,   you know, if you don't,   you know, hold their hands and sing Kumbaya through everything,   All they do is hate you.   And then, you know, later on, they're like, oh, you're not that bad. Well, no shit.   You know? I mean, because   I know Goose's kid wasn't told that Maverick purposely killed Goose. It was a pure accident.  

But yet Goose's kid chose to hold on to the anger  

[00:21:46] Unknown:

of Well  

[00:21:48] Duuude-Ron :

You killed my daddy.   No bullshit. He didn't.  

[00:21:55] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:21:56] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I understand. Yeah. You see, that's, you see, that's where that's where that's why that's why I have a hard time with that. You know? Because it's like   now I know growing up, you read all the documents. You you found out. You talked to all the people you found out,   and yet you still harbor hate   towards this person   because   of a pure accident,   something out of his control.   But a lot of people are like that. You know? And I just I I just have a hard time   I have a hard time   with, people like that.   You know?  

[00:22:39] Unknown:

Well, I've   I've held or   I've let go of it for a good part,   but I held a grudge against my dad for   shit   most all of my adult life, and he's been dead now for twenty years.  

[00:22:55] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[00:22:56] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:22:58] Unknown:

So it's like   and I still held a grudge.  

[00:23:03] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But that was for that was for what? Actions toward you   and your family?   Yeah.   Okay. See Well, and actions towards me when I was a kid. Right. Well, actions towards you. Yeah. You know? Yes.   Okay.   You know, I can I can I can understand that and working through that,   you know, and taking a long time? But   in this movie and it's I think it's it's freaking crazy we're even   talking about this. But damn it, it just bugs me   because it's like it's like it was ruled in action.   Every little detail of the accident was was documented,   and this kid's   kids still wanted to hate on   Maverick.  



[00:23:48] Unknown:

You know? Well, the reason why he hated him so much is because,   he wanted to go to flight school, and Maverick,   held up his   for four years   for him to go to the   naval academy   and become   a pilot.   So that's what he was mad at, but   he never knew   that   his mom,   before she passed away,   did not want   her son   to be a naval aviator.   That's one thing that he never knew as part of the movie plot,   and   Maverick took all that   on himself   and never revealed it to,   Goose's son.  

[00:24:42] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:24:43] Unknown:

So that was,   you know,   the behind   aspect of why   you know? And what the hell is this character's name?   Rooster.  

[00:24:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Which I think I think that's a crazy   name, but okay.  

[00:25:05] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. But   some things get, you know,   you've some people pick their, you know, aviator or their call sign, and   some people get them picked for them.   Yeah. Which is   you know, so it is what it is.   But, you know, Rooster not,   knowing   that his mom never wanted him to become that,   you know,   she didn't get the grudge.   Maverick got the grudge.  

[00:25:42] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:25:44] Unknown:

So, you know, which   and I can understand that. You know?   I'd probably do the same thing.   Now let me let me   I gotta say this before I forget it because I didn't write it down. And there was a couple of things I was gonna discuss tonight,   and I didn't write them down. And now it's a fucking   blank   of what I was gonna fucking   do. The subjects that I was going to approach   tonight.   You know that they're getting rid of   DEI.   Correct?   Yep. K.   There   are college   students   that because   DEI   is getting basically   annihilated,   they are having   mental   issues.  

Fucking   college students   are now having mental.   What's the word I'm looking for?   Starts with a t.   Damn.  

[00:26:55] Duuude-Ron :

Starts with a t.  

[00:26:57] Unknown:

Yeah. Mental,   not tragedy,   but,   it's really   there you go.   Mental trauma   because they're getting rid of DEI,   college students.   Are you fucking kidding me?  

[00:27:17] Duuude-Ron :

Like I said  

[00:27:19] Unknown:

Goddamn it. Go fucking put on your big girl panties,   get your fucking mangina   pad,   and get the fuck over it.   Jesus.  

[00:27:35] Duuude-Ron :

Hey, Brian.   Yeah.   You need to change from being a life coach to a therapist right now. You'd make a fucking killing.   I dude,   switch.   Make the switch.   You'll make a fucking killing.  

[00:27:52] Rich Chelson:

By the time I got myself through,   through college and got certified and all these all these kids have something else that they were decide they're gonna throw a fit about.   You gotta remember. They they got their There you go. You're fucking recession proof. Of a of a fucking minnow.  

[00:28:08] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. You're right. But but, dude, think about it. It's recession proof.   I mean, literally,   because kid these kids I I mean, that's sad.   I I mean, grow the fuck up.  

[00:28:23] Unknown:

It is absolutely   fucking   pathetic.  

[00:28:26] Duuude-Ron :

It is no. It's simple. Grow the fuck up. Stroke.   Grow up.  

[00:28:33] Unknown:

Grow the fuck up. Get your big girl panties on.   Put your man put your manjina pad up between your legs   and fucking   get the fuck over it.  

[00:28:47] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.   I mean, I'm I I you see you see that just shows you   young people   in America   today   cannot cope with anything.   Nothing.   Yeah.   Seriously. If it if it doesn't fit in their little world,   they're out. They can't function.  

[00:29:13] Rich Chelson:

They can't go. Nope. Well, they've been have they haven't been taught critical thinking.   They've been taught I know I mean, why do they follow, you know, Fauci and and everybody else had told them, put a mask on. They were like, oh, I'm here. I ain't been laughing on. And they will go off and put a mask on.   They weren't taught to think   critically or otherwise.  

[00:29:37] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. I Yeah. Yeah. I I totally agree with that. And the thing is   most   most of the blame   falls back to the fucking parents.  

[00:29:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Sadly, it is gen x that a lot of the problems started with. It Yeah. Sadly, yes.  

[00:29:55] Duuude-Ron :

You know? I mean I mean, you know, I see on Facebook,   you know,   you know, a lot of I I mean, I'm not friends with them, but some of the groups I'm in that, you know, they claim, I'm Gen x. I'm Gen x. Yeah. And   what are your fucking kids?   Fucking   loose headed liberals   that don't know how to cope with life because,   god forbid,   something happened from the time they left high school.  

[00:30:22] Rich Chelson:

And A lot of it was even while in high school.   Because the Gen x guy folks, they're the ones who were who got dubbed the helicopter parent.   Oh god. No. Yes. It's us. Yes. We were the we were we became the helicopter parents.  

[00:30:40] Duuude-Ron :

But see, the thing is when well  

[00:30:43] Rich Chelson:

I mean, not not literally   us.   I mean   but at the same time, the generation x   was the helicopter parent. They didn't wanna be bothered,   so let's put our kids on ADHD medicine.   Yeah. That no. That is true. Oh, we don't wanna be bothered with with, with kids, so let's get them on, SSRIs.   Let's get them on let's it's easier to just pop a pill than have to go let them suffer.   And so, no. Sadly, a lot of Gen x, we might be the feral the last of the feral kids,   but we have we're the ones who are bringing in the downfall of society right now.  

[00:31:25] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Well, no. I can't I can't argue that.   I really can't because   yeah. You know? Yeah. It did start with   when   when we started   having kids   and getting married and all like that, it was like we forgot   all of our upbringing   and turned into, oh my god, you know, a little cut.   You know, we gotta run to the doctor because   you might get gangrene in two days.  

[00:31:56] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.  

[00:31:57] Duuude-Ron :

It's not gonna happen.   Slap some fucking Mercurachrome   on it and go.  

[00:32:04] Rich Chelson:

Or just rub some dirt in it and spit on it. It'll be alright. Fuck yeah. Y'all get some Elmer's glue.  

[00:32:11] Duuude-Ron :

Even better. Fuck yeah. It's not toxic.  

[00:32:14] Unknown:

Yeah. You remember how we used to that was a real entertainment  

[00:32:18] Rich Chelson:

factor when we were kids. Just cover your hands and glue it and then just peel it off. That was a blast.  

[00:32:25] Duuude-Ron :

School.  

[00:32:26] Unknown:

Yeah. You put it on the palm of your hand, get it all over the palm of your hand, let it dry. It's like, oh, let's peel it off.   And that was   entertainment.  

[00:32:37] Duuude-Ron :

That was high quality entertainment, dude. No kidding.   It was, like, sitting there.  

[00:32:44] Unknown:

You couldn't get better than that   unless you had a piece of silly putty and some comics.   Right.  

[00:32:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Sadly, that's something kids these days won't ever understand.  

[00:32:56] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. Nope.  

[00:32:58] Rich Chelson:

Hell, you you have to go off and do some real cert I don't even think comics are in color on Sunday dot Sundays anymore.   You  

[00:33:06] Unknown:

know? I don't know. I haven't looked at it   in decades.   Right.  

[00:33:11] Duuude-Ron :

Hey. If someone if someone ever listens to this   and and we haven't found this out, which   we'll probably forget in the next three minutes. So this is why I'm putting it out there. Y'all look and see if there's colored comics. And if so, let us know what newspaper   because we have no idea.   Yeah. What if any   newspaper   has colored comics anymore?  

[00:33:38] Unknown:

And I and I'm sure the hell not gonna spend a buck and a half at the store for a newspaper to check this out. I think it's 2 and a half nowadays for a Sunday paper.   No shit. I I probably believe it. I I could believe that. I haven't fucking looked at a paper in  

[00:33:54] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know how fucking long. Well, good god. It's like 73¢   for a fucking stamp. So, I mean, newspaper.   Yeah. No. Shit. Yeah. It's fuck it's it's outrageous, man. Prices got outrageous, dude.  

[00:34:08] Unknown:

Yeah. You know, I'm glad I still have some of those forever stamps that,   you know, I will probably   never fucking use.  

[00:34:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But you see, the thing is when you when you run out of those stamps and have to go buy more, they'll be a dollar and a half.  

[00:34:25] Unknown:

Probably.   Right. Hopefully, I'll just be dead by then. That then that would make me just as happy.   You ain't gonna get that lucky, dude. Give it up. I know. Give it up. I'll probably fucking celebrate my hundredth birthday.   God.  

[00:34:43] Duuude-Ron :

I'll be there.   Hopefully.  

[00:34:47] Unknown:

I'm gonna go out fucking if so, I'm gonna go out fucking wheeling.  

[00:34:54] Duuude-Ron :

That would be a milestone now, wouldn't it?   Fuck. Yeah.  

[00:34:59] Unknown:

And if I can't you know what? If if I can't fucking go out and wheel and and do shit with my Jeep when I get older,   you know what? Somebody just fucking   shoot my ass.   I am not   I will   not   live   in a fucking nursing home.  

[00:35:19] Duuude-Ron :

No.   No. I will fucking  

[00:35:23] Unknown:

point four five caliber   retire.   I will not fucking live in a nursing home.  

[00:35:33] Duuude-Ron :

No. I can't do that because they wouldn't let me have my ham radios.   They wouldn't let me paint. They wouldn't let me have my jeep. So, yeah,   I can't can't do it.  

[00:35:43] Rich Chelson:

No. But they play play me at bingo. I don't give I I  

[00:35:48] Duuude-Ron :

suck at bingo.   I have played many a a card at bingo   in the past, and I suck at bingo. I never went ever.   I think I think out of because, in the early nineties,   me and my first wife went,   and   this girl loved bingo. And so I   she'd freaking drag me along,   and I'd be playing nine cards.   And I'm sitting there just diving away, just diving away. You know?   I think only one time   I won. And I had to split the damn pot because there was another lady at the other table, one too.   I was and it was only $25,   but still, I was mad.   I wanted that 25. I only got $12.50.  

I said no. That's it. It cost   yeah. You know, my first wife would win. You know, she'd you know, not all the time, but, I mean, she'd freaking go and come home with hundred, hundred and 50,   couple hundred bucks. I'm like, why the fuck do you want me to go?   You win. I don't. We just waste some money on me.  

[00:37:00] Unknown:

Well and okay.   Well and just like, you know, scratch offs, you know, you'll never fucking make your money back  

[00:37:08] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[00:37:09] Unknown:

Ever.  

[00:37:10] Rich Chelson:

Nope.   Nope. Never. Never. Never. Never.  

[00:37:13] Unknown:

But my next door neighbor, he was a, World War two veteran. He was a navigator on a b 52.   And then   across the street,   he was a pilot.   Wasn't on the same airplane,   was a pilot for b 52   bombers   in World War two.   You know, both of them have since passed away,   but   my next door neighbor,   he would   when he got to the point where he could not drive,   he would call me up and say, hey. Can you,   run and get some scratch offs?   He would drop   between   300   and 500   a week   Damn. On scratch offs.  

[00:37:59] Duuude-Ron :

He had a lot of folding money.  

[00:38:03] Unknown:

Yeah.   But,   you know, he would get the $50   scratch off. So I'm like,   okay. Knock yourself the fuck out.   I can't afford that kind of shit.   You know, and he'd always, you know, get me, like, a $5 or a $10 scratch off   for me to go and get it. You know, I'm like, okay. Whatever. That's fine. Because hell, it was only about   wasn't even fucking half a mile where he wanted to get his scratch offs,   at.   So I'm like, okay. Well, run over there and get and he would call the store,   and they'd already be sitting there waiting   for me to purchase some before I even got there. I didn't even have to select what ones he wanted.  

He called them in, and they were already pulled.  

[00:38:56] Duuude-Ron :

That's funny.   He did call the store.   I said, I put my order in.  

[00:39:03] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:39:04] Duuude-Ron :

That's funny.  

[00:39:06] Unknown:

Oh, and here's here's $200.   I'm like,   wow.   That's That yeah. That made him   that made his day.  

[00:39:19] Duuude-Ron :

That's an expensive day to me.  

[00:39:22] Unknown:

Well yeah. And especially if he   especially if I you know, as soon as I got home from work,   that he'd want me to go and,   get scratch offs. And then he called me at about, you know, 08:00 at night. He's like, hey. You wanna make another run for scratch offs? I'm like,   sure, Ray. I can do that.   You know, but he always got me but he always got me a scratch off. So I was like, okay. It's worth you know, to me, it's worth that, what,   twenty minutes of time.   You know? Did I ever win anything?   No.   But,   yeah, and then there then you give me another hundred, hundred and $50.   So in one day, three hundred and fifty dollars.  



[00:40:05] Duuude-Ron :

Damn.  

[00:40:08] Unknown:

Yes. Like, okay.   You know? Whatever makes you happy, Ray.  

[00:40:13] Duuude-Ron :

That's right.   Whatever floats your boat there. Whatever floats your boat.  

[00:40:20] Unknown:

So yeah.   When I heard that today   or saw that on the news for fucking   that   DI. I'm like,   oh, god, people.   If my grandsons   ever,   you know,   come to that   thinking   aspects,   I will smack the fuck   out of both those kids.   I'll smack the back of their heads until they don't have the back of their heads anymore.   It's like you   fucking better   man up and you know? Because life   life ain't fair fucking fair,   and nobody   gives a shit.   Right? Well, I mean on the top or on the bottom.  

[00:41:15] Duuude-Ron :

That's true.   They'll learn. You know?   They'll learn eventually.  

[00:41:22] Unknown:

Yeah. They will.  

[00:41:24] Duuude-Ron :

You know? And they'll they'll just   they'll just either suck it up and learn to live with it, or they'll wind up in a rubber room.   You know?   Exactly.   I that's   that's why I see it.   You know?  

[00:41:44] Unknown:

Yep.  

[00:41:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's crazy.  

[00:41:49] Unknown:

Make something   productive   of your fucking life,   And don't go to fucking college. Go to a goddamn unless, you know,   general studies for college. Okay. That's worthless fucking degree. Yeah. Okay. Maybe become an architect   or, you know,   a specific   aspect, but fuck.   A trade school is gonna get you a hell of a lot more fucking   further in life than a goddamn college degree is.  

[00:42:19] Duuude-Ron :

That's true. And you'll make more money over over your lifetime   going to a trade school than you do college.  

[00:42:25] Unknown:

Yep. Unless you are   really fucking smart and become a fucking neurosurgeon.  

[00:42:32] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, they're yeah. You know?   Trade school doesn't have much on that. You know? No.  

[00:42:41] Unknown:

You know? So,   unfortunately, I never got blessed with those kind of smarts and you know?  

[00:42:48] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you say you say that's the thing with me.   I wasn't I wasn't trying to have those kind of smarts. I was just   I just you know?   I knew.   I was like,   I'll go to a trade school. I don't care.   You know? I took I took auto mechanics in in high school   and,   then went in the military and was a parts changer.  

[00:43:14] Unknown:

And became a mechanic.   Yeah. Parts changer. Got out. Yeah. I know. Got out.  

[00:43:21] Duuude-Ron :

Work worked as a mechanic   for a while in a few different shops, so I learned a few more things. And,   you know,   I I mean, that that's the thing. You know? It's like,   I didn't need a college to teach me that because I knew life could teach me that.   You know? I needed some instruction. I knew that.   But Yeah. I didn't need to spend   well, at that time, I'd have spent, what, 30 or $40,000?  

[00:43:48] Unknown:

Yep.   And the school of hard knocks is a fucking hell of a lot cheaper.   It hurts more,   but it's a hell of a lot cheaper.  

[00:43:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:44:00] Unknown:

And then what did you do? Became a truck driver for how long?  

[00:44:04] Duuude-Ron :

Twenty five years.  

[00:44:06] Unknown:

Twenty five years.  

[00:44:09] Duuude-Ron :

But but I learned I learned how to work on trucks, trailers,   air assist, all kinds of shit,   and on the side of the road even.  

[00:44:21] Unknown:

Yeah.   And that's a very nice skill to have on the side of the road.  

[00:44:27] Duuude-Ron :

Except when it's 10 fucking below zero.  

[00:44:30] Unknown:

You're damn right. But you know what? At least your   your your   knowledge got you to   off the side of the road and down to,   you know, a truck stop where you could,   you know, better manage it.  

[00:44:47] Duuude-Ron :

Well, true. True.   But   yeah. No. I just but, see, that's the thing. I just,   Yeah. You know?   I I mean, I'm not knocking college.   Well, nowadays, I am because they don't teach anything anymore just like school.  

[00:45:06] Unknown:

Yeah. I know. You know?  

[00:45:09] Duuude-Ron :

School doesn't teach anything. College doesn't teach anything except   when to whine and cry about about,   you know, things that the government don't do for you. That's about it.  

[00:45:24] Unknown:

Yeah. And the government doesn't owe you a fucking thing.  

[00:45:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, the thing is,   we had eight years of Obama,   then we had Trump, then we had Biden. So, therefore,   all these liberals or all these Democrats   thought that, oh, the government will save us, that the government will bail us out.   And they weren't taught   government   in school or in college.   They weren't taught Yep. The way things are. They were taught   the way things   the way everybody else   wants the government to do for us. And   that was a major disservice. And, honestly,   if if,   I was somebody's kids, I would be   going back to the college and   telling them to freaking give me my money back   because they didn't teach me,   you know, what I needed   to to do. But you see, again, it's not the college's fault. It's not fully the college's fault.  

It all starts with the parents.   It all starts with the freaking parents.   You know? Absolutely.   So if you wanna be mad at anybody,   mommy and daddy, start there and go up.  

[00:46:48] Unknown:

Yep.  

[00:46:49] Duuude-Ron :

Don't be mad at grandma and grandpa because it's not their job.  

[00:46:54] Unknown:

No.  

[00:46:55] Duuude-Ron :

Grandma and grandpa's job and and and and and great uncle's job is to spoil the kids   And then so  

[00:47:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Yep. That's   that's true.   I'll give you that.  

[00:47:14] Duuude-Ron :

That'll probably piss some people off, but I don't care.  

[00:47:19] Unknown:

I don't give it. You're you're exactly right. Yeah.   If it sucks yeah. No. Sucks to be them.   Sorry.   Yeah. They don't like it? No.   Oh, well.  

[00:47:32] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Oh, yeah. No. I'm not sorry. It's good. I'll say it again. I don't care.  

[00:47:38] Unknown:

When have we ever been politically correct   in any conversation that we have ever   ever had   between the three of us?  

[00:47:51] Duuude-Ron :

I don't remember it. I'm   No.   No. I don't. I don't remember a time. Normally   normally, we're laughing at the fact   of of freaking political correctness.  

[00:48:13] Unknown:

But we ain't gonna be politically correct.  

[00:48:15] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hell no. No.   Uh-uh.   That's just no. That's wrong. Yeah.   Because   I'm not gonna tiptoe around anybody.   I might I might be I might be a little more cordial   depending on the situation,   but,   yeah, it's probably not.   I'm still gonna say what's on my mind.  

[00:48:44] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:48:45] Duuude-Ron :

You know? And if it causes people to cry, well,   sucks to be you, dude.  

[00:48:51] Unknown:

Yep.   You wanna hold a grudge?   Knock yourself out.   That's that's the energy you're gonna   bent.  

[00:49:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   Because I ain't gonna go to sleep on it.  

[00:49:07] Unknown:

Yep.   Yeah. And the bad thing about it is this country   for   just became,   you know, with, again, the Liberals,   a bunch of sheeple.  

[00:49:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Been like that for years.  

[00:49:24] Unknown:

Yep.   Oh, well.   One day, we will   one day, we'll learn.   No. We probably won't. We'll just compete. We'll just continue.   We're just gonna continue to freaking, you know, repeat   historical events.   Yeah. Just like   because we never   learn.   Right.  

[00:49:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I I mean, I I   I knew where you guys go with that, but I was like, yeah. That's probably not gonna happen.   I mean, as as much as much as I would love for it to happen,   that's probably not gonna happen. Not gonna do it.   It's not prudent at this time. Not prudent at this juncture.   I love how you say that, Brian.   That fucking every time I hear that, it kills me.  

[00:50:25] Rich Chelson:

That's the closest I can get to, Dana Carvey's,   George Bush.   Right. Yep.   Yeah. So   that's where that come from. He used to do that on Saturday night live.   Back when Saturday night live was good.   Right.  

[00:50:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I just   every time you say even even when I go back to,   listen to this, you know, when I do the edits, I'm still gonna laugh over it. I know I am.   Because it just it's it's it's it's just how you say it. It's just, oh my god. It fucking kills me.  

[00:51:00] Unknown:

You know? Not prudent.  

[00:51:03] Rich Chelson:

That is   juncture.   So  

[00:51:08] Duuude-Ron :

oh god.   Yeah. No. I had not I had not heard that that college students were,   being like that.  

[00:51:21] Rich Chelson:

Well, they're they're wigging out right now because,   good old Trump went off, and, I think it's his executive order that he signed   that he is going to,   he is going to kick out   any student   visa holder   who was protesting   against Israel.  

[00:51:41] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really?  

[00:51:43] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So now they're, like, in a in a tizzy trying to run around on the net and try to make sure they got all their all their footsteps removed.   They're they're shitting themselves. Like, oh god. He could do that. We never thought of that.   So I've got a, got an article on it. It's on up in the, in the show notes list.   Yep. Yep. They're they're they're they're shitting their britches right now, and it's, it's it's glorious.  

[00:52:10] Duuude-Ron :

So Oh, good. Well well, yeah.   You see, because, I had watched a few of them videos with,   you know, where where Charlie Cook,   Ben Shapiro   talks at colleges and stuff and all them. And and with, Ben Shapiro,   a lot of these college students like to say from the river to the sea or something.   Right. Yeah. You know? And it and it and it really upsets Ben Shapiro.   I mean, look at his face. He he handles   it pretty well, but look at his face.   I mean, he just fucking hates it  

[00:52:47] Rich Chelson:

and everything. So, you know, honestly, I'm glad. Well, yeah. Because they're talking about from the Jordan River to the   to the Mediterranean   Sea. So that's the whole, you know, all of,   Israel. So  

[00:53:01] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   But and see. That's the thing. You know? These these kids over here in America   have no fucking clue   what what has gone on,   over in   from Israel to everywhere.  

[00:53:19] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:53:20] Duuude-Ron :

All they know all they know is what's been   shoved down their throats   by the mainstream media,   and they don't do any of their own research.   You know? Yep. Yeah. Honestly, open a freaking Bible.   It'll tell you a lot of what happened with Israel   before   mainstream media.   And then and then look at it through the years as it went.   And look at it now. I'm not saying Israel is a % perfect.   Nobody's a hundred fucking percent perfect.   But yet at the same time, before you go off spouting shit like that,   know your facts,   and they don't know their facts. This is what irks me about people.  



[00:54:05] Rich Chelson:

People. I'm saying people. Not just people. Own people.  

[00:54:09] Unknown:

Yeah. But not not a person. Not a person.   A people.  

[00:54:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, still but know your fucking facts before you bring anything up.   And don't   don't sit here   and just and just read headlines   and claim that as a fucking fact   because   there's no facts in a headline.   So   okay.   Yeah.  

[00:54:39] Unknown:

You know? And how many actually how many people   these days,   the younger generation,   even if I can pick up the bible?  

[00:54:48] Duuude-Ron :

None of them. Nobody does. None of them. Very few.  

[00:54:51] Rich Chelson:

I did. Actually, no. That's that's not correct.   Jen   Alpha, or not Jen Alpha, Jen the Zoomers,   are starting to go back to church.   Millennials aren't, but but,   Zoomers are.   Okay. Well Okay. Now they're They're starting to they're starting to return to church.   Now most granted, most of it is the nondenominational   stuff.  

[00:55:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, and that's why.  

[00:55:22] Rich Chelson:

But, but at the same but as a whole, I mean, that's better than,   than nothing   in my book.  

[00:55:30] Duuude-Ron :

True. Yeah. True. And and the   see, the thing is the, the,   you see, honestly,   I'm non nondenominational   because   there was not   there was not denominations   during,   the, biblical times.   Really?   Well Yeah. There was. Yeah. You, yeah, you had the early Catholics, which were the Pharisees and Sadducees,   and they just turned into the Roman Catholics and then the Catholics.   But,   you know, as you know, they  

[00:56:06] Unknown:

so you'd ask the Well, back yeah. Back in the biblical, it was either Jew or non Jew.  

[00:56:12] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Jew or Gentile. But Yep. When,   when the New Testament came in, though,   that got wiped.   Yeah. That got wiped. We were all one. Jew and Gentile alike.   So   but but we still had the Catholics. We still had the Muslims,   you know, and all like this. We still had different religions,   okay,   you know, which is   whatever. We won't go off into that,   because that'll take a lot longer than three freaking   hours. But, Yeah.   Probably so. You think?   But,   but, no, it's it's it's good that that that there's people starting to go back to church,   but, you know, I wonder I wonder, are they are they getting   the right message   or,   you know, preach to them or what? Say, I don't know.  

Because this first, I heard of it. So I'm not I can't say   you know?  

[00:57:20] Rich Chelson:

Because I know some churches idea. I mean, that's one reason why I kinda like   denominations.   I'm Baptist. I've always been Baptist, but I don't have a problem going to Church of Christ, which is really weird because, you know, they don't play have music.   Well, they have music, but it's all acapella.   Yeah. They don't play with, with instruments.  

[00:57:42] Duuude-Ron :

Right. So  

[00:57:44] Rich Chelson:

Well, I see. As a whole, I mean   and, I mean, there's details, of the, church of Christ that I don't have a clue about. But   at the same time, I any denomination,   any Christian church, actually,   in my book   is not bad.   Alright?   They're all   preaching the same thing   just from   the, you know, from the,   the inaccuracies   of man.   So you have those that run around like the church of Christ people,   and they always like to whenever they found out I was a Baptist going going over the church, they always like to   try their well, not all of them, but there was a couple of them that I knew who like to try to   point out that, why ask why I'd go why I go to the Baptist church so much   because, you know, that's,   the Baptist church,   worships,   John the Baptist. I'm going,   you know? No. They don't.  

I hear John the Baptist mentioned   around Easter.   And after that,   not really much.  

[00:58:59] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:59:01] Rich Chelson:

And so   the whole   the whole I've not ever bought any of the the different stories, but, I mean, you look at,   Catholicism.   You know? If we were to look at that, I think they they   they idolize saints a little too much. But, again, that's my opinion.  

[00:59:20] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Well, I would I would have to agree with you.  

[00:59:23] Rich Chelson:

And but   at the same time, you've got, you've got the Lutherans, which, you know, they basically just Catholic lights. You've got the church of,   Church of England, also known as the Episcopalians,   which nowadays in the modern era   is a bit on the wacko side because, I mean, they, you know, they're they've got,   they've got all the, the gay and woke   female preachers running around, you know,   lecturing,   lecturing   the,   lecturing people that, that God has,   is,   you know, all gendering or whatever. And so it's just like, what? Okay. No. No. No. You know, you're a little on the offside. I mean, you've had the Methodist church has recently split into two.   Half of it's gone woke. The other half is trying to hold on to to traditions.  

And, I mean  

[01:00:21] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. I I understand what you're saying. I agree with you. You know? But but, see, the thing is, this is where this is where I have a problem with denominations   is because it's all man's interpretation.   They've  

[01:00:36] Rich Chelson:

they've added all the nondenominationals.   I was like   Because it's a it's a man's a man's interpretation   of what the Bible says.  

[01:00:48] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you see   you see the Bible   is not written for   just one person.  

[01:00:55] Rich Chelson:

No. It's it's written for our   it it's well, it's written for everybody.  

[01:01:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.  

[01:01:02] Rich Chelson:

And so it's you know, you can take it and make it as, as literal as you want   or as as airy fairy as you want.  

[01:01:12] Duuude-Ron :

But there but you see, the thing is the thing is a lot of it. Okay. I I can I can I can I can understand your premise on that because, yeah, we've had a lot of people,   take verses from the Bible and   twist them and make them sound really well? Jehovah's,  

[01:01:29] Rich Chelson:

witness Your hope a witness. I was just exactly asking a point. Really good. Yeah. Witness could   oh, even went through and rewrote the whole damn Bible to suit their wants. So They are very scary good at that shit. Okay? Yeah. They are.  

[01:01:44] Duuude-Ron :

And and and trust me, if if you're not knowing,   you can be sucked up into that real quick.   But, anyway,   you know, it it's just   that's where,   you know, that's that's why these churches that say, oh, you need to believe this way. You need to believe that way. No. I don't.   I read the Bible and what it says to me, that's what I do.  

[01:02:08] Rich Chelson:

You know? Oh, and that's that a good question is in how do you come to that conclusion?  

[01:02:13] Duuude-Ron :

Well  

[01:02:15] Rich Chelson:

Because a lot of them well, you know,   the their preachers   may be able to come up with a pretty good idea as to why.   But, I mean, like I said, it's   it's just beliefs that they have   they've highlighted on and that's tradition that they really like to focus in on.   Right. I mean, as long as the as long as the church   believes that Jesus is the son of God that,   that, you know, he had 12 apostles. One of them betrayed him. Actually, technically, two of them betrayed him.   So   and and that, you know, you have the basic,   following   of what the New Testament of the Bible is,   and you are technically a Christian,   you know, without rewriting   the New Testament,   let's add that in there, you know, then, essentially, yeah, you're a you're   a,   a a Christian,   a Christian church.  

And what really lights people's hair on fire is when you go off, well, Christians,   Jewish folks,   and Muslims all actually believe in the same god.  

[01:03:36] Duuude-Ron :

Now  

[01:03:37] Unknown:

Their version their version  

[01:03:39] Rich Chelson:

of God. Mean, they just they they, you know, you have like it. The God. The Jews are the Jewish are,   is from is from,   Saul   and,   or, is it Saul?   Who's the one who's got the higher ass arms?   Abraham's,   and Sarah had.   Oh, god. You're Oh, goddamn it. Now I've gotta look it up because I can't remember.  

[01:04:07] Duuude-Ron :

Well well, while   while you're doing that, let me,   this is something,   this is something I learned, and  

[01:04:15] Rich Chelson:

I I wasn't sure about it when I heard it. Isaac and Ishmael. That's his name. Yeah. Yeah. Ishmael. So Isaac was was Jewish, and Ishmael was,   it basically became the,   the,   the Islam   side.   And so they are both believe in the same,   same God,   just, you know, Islam calls it calls them Allah   because of the, Arabic,   term.   Jewish use Hebrew   and Yiddish, and then,   and then along come,   along come Jesus, and he all of a sudden   brought in everybody else.   Yeah.   No. Because there at first, if you wanted to be a Jew a Jewish person,   you were pretty I mean,   the the reason why the whole commandment go forth and multiply was because if you wanna have more   members of the Jewish church,   you had to go off and have sex and and produce kids because you're gonna   that's how you got more members of your church.  



[01:05:23] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Now,   do you know   the word Christian   is not in the Bible?   Yeah.   And purgatory   is not in the Bible?   Right.   These are two words that I mean, I   I never thought of them   as such, but, you know, honestly, I I never thought that deep into them. And   I had watched the video, and,   I think it was on Facebook reels, but it's from TikTok.   And, this guy said it, and it's like, I gotta check it.   So I checked it.   And sure enough, it's it's it's not   in fact, I had found out,   the term Christian   was actually,   was actually a derogatory   word   back in   medieval times.  



[01:06:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well yeah. Because during medieval times, on like, down the,   Spanish acquisition,   like, we're like we're, you know, we're Christian scholars on this podcast stuff, which is funny. So   but,   yeah. What happened is during the, Spanish inquisition and during that time,   the reason why Jews don't trust   Christians   and would use that term   very, very derogatorily   is because we were   killing them if they weren't committing converting to Christianity. We were damn near as bad as   as   Islamists.   Right. Convert or die, essentially.   You know?  

Yep. Yep. No. And that's no. That's true. And that still carries on to today. They still have that type of distrust of Christians,   which is funny. It's like I don't really recall   us going off trying to really kill you that much here in the past, you know,   couple of centuries.   Right. Right. No. No. The closest you can come is is, well, Hitler, but, no, Hitler wasn't Christian.   No. Hitler was not. He was the farthest thing from a Christian.  

[01:07:29] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   But no. No. And, see, that's the thing you're right, and I I don't know why,   you know, it's still like that.   I I guess that's not for us to find out at this point in time, but,   you know, it just it's, you know, it's funny just how   I don't know. I   I've been to many different churches,   and   I just I would just rather read the Bible myself.   Yep. You know? Is and and I'm I'm not saying that's a good thing because   we all need to fellowship   with other,   you know, people of of God anyway.  

[01:08:09] Unknown:

Alright.   And I'm gonna take Are we not doing that right now? Well, yes. We are. But,   Yeah. Where any   two people   come together   in god's name,   you're having church.   Right. The physical location   is irrelevant.  

[01:08:29] Duuude-Ron :

Right. That is true. Start finding jazz,  

[01:08:33] Rich Chelson:

gospel organ music.  

[01:08:37] Duuude-Ron :

But now the thing is, though, is that is, dude, is that is that   you know, we need it more than just for, like, ten or twenty minutes.   You know? So that's why that's why if you find other people in your community,   you know, you can talk to and share with and talk with and stuff like that, then   then it just it just helps you further along.   You know?  

[01:09:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I can   somewhat agree with that.   I'm not a very good peopling person.   You know?   Never really have. But, you know, I was   raised   in a Lutheran church, baptized,   confirmed,   you know,   and I went to a Lutheran church for thirty years.   Right. You know?   And then, you   know, then we went went to another church. I don't even remember what the hell that   denomination   was.   But, you know, Lutheran, all they did was is a lazy Catholic.   Right. A Lutheran was   is a lazy Catholic.  

[01:09:52] Duuude-Ron :

But see, that's the thing. Lutheran, like like   like you said,   you were confirmed.   You know, nowhere in the Bible does it say that you have to be confirmed   before you can be baptized.   You don't have to take classes.  

[01:10:09] Unknown:

You know, but I did.  

[01:10:11] Duuude-Ron :

You know? That was I know. I you way of life. You did. You look. You did. A lot of people did. You know? I'm not singling you out because a lot of people have to do this, you know, to to be in their church.   And this is, I guess, I guess, one of the main things   that I have a problem with because   I've never   had to go through that. It's like,   I   I remember when I got baptized, I went and talked to my preacher,   and I said I said, yo, dude. I wanna be baptized.   And he asked me a few questions to make sure, you know, I understood what I was saying,   but I didn't have to take no class, no   you know? You know? And that's like that's like some of these churches   won't marry you   unless you take their wedding class.  

You know? And I kinda get it, you know, especially nowadays.   You know? But at the same time, it's like, why do I need to take a class?   You know? If if   me and this woman   want to get   get together   and get married,   you know,   why why do you have to,   you know, make yourself   feel right in your mind before you can marry us? Because the Bible says nothing about that.  

[01:11:34] Rich Chelson:

Well and, again, that's where tradition comes into play.   I mean,   that's   why do why do they need to take that? Because they have seen   that that helps to have   have the marriages become better.   It's kinda like if you really look at why   in the Bible   were people not supposed to eat fish that did not have scales   or pork   or any or any animal that had a hoof   but did not have,   room in stomachs.  

[01:12:15] Duuude-Ron :

K. Where does it say that?  

[01:12:18] Rich Chelson:

Deuteronomy.   Whichever one   see, numbers is the one that's got all the   so and so begat so and so begat so and so begat so and so. And then numbers   or, Deuteronomy, if I'm thinking right, is the one is the book of all the laws.  

[01:12:36] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. That,   in in in these early days and I would have to look at it again,   In, my bible,   which is the New King James version, the New American Standard Bible, or the NIV version, I've got all three.   When, God made the animals, God told Adam and Eve,   you have power over all the animals. Eat.  

[01:13:05] Rich Chelson:

And Yes. But then he when when   once he,   once he started actually putting his religion together and start getting the   the Jewish people to start celebrating   the Jewish peep you know, being Jewish and worshiping him   after they after he was after they were led out of, out of Egypt,   One of the things that they said he said was to that, one, you can't eat pigs because they have they have hooves, but no room in stomachs.   They're non ruminants.   You're not able to eat,   fish that have no scales, so, like, shellfish or catfish.   And the reason why   and then they also had the other other rules, like, you can't touch blood.  

Again, why?   Because of the health ramifications   of eating undercooked pork,   for one.   Undercooked shellfish   gonna get you sick.   That's with anything, dude. Well, yes. But they noticed that, like, if you eat cow   I mean, you can have   undercooked cow. You can have it rare.   Well, yeah. And it's not gonna kill you.   You have rare pork.   You probably gonna and wind up with a bad case of trichinosis.  

[01:14:37] Unknown:

Do you hear the commotion behind my house? Uh-uh.   No?   We got a pack of wolves, literally,   that live in the,   yeah,   that live in the woods behind my house.   And they are just chatting up a storm, Oh my god. Are they howling up a storm   for no reason.   Usually, the sirens will fucking just   they will go bonkers   over sirens.   Oh, yeah. And and so it's like   but right now, they were just, like,  

[01:15:14] Rich Chelson:

going bonkers for no reason. Yeah. They probably found a cat.   God, I hope so. Yeah. We got food coming over here. Y'all better better get ready because they're we're gonna start sending the cat send that food your way.  

[01:15:28] Unknown:

I hope so because we got so many freaking feral cats in my neighborhood.  

[01:15:33] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Well, that's pretty much what they're after. They eat they eat cats. They eat,   they eat little yippee dogs.  

[01:15:41] Unknown:

And you know what? They can   freaking have all the cats in the neighborhood.   I'll catch one of those cats and   swing it by the tail and put it up over the fence.   That would really be fun.  

[01:15:59] Rich Chelson:

But I'm not I'm not a I'm not a We we we don't condone violence against, against critters   often unless we're hunting. Then, yeah, we'll   we'll we'll condone violence against tasty critters.  

[01:16:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, and you we're talking about pigs. Right? You know, we don't wanna have pigs, but damn it. What's better than bacon?  

[01:16:23] Rich Chelson:

More Well, I mean, when you properly and that's kind of the the thing is we've found out as that yeah. If you   if you take you know, if you know how to properly cook   the meat, you cook the the illness out of it.   Oh, yeah. I mean, what is it? I've,   see, besides for,   Jewish,   Jewish folks,   is it,   is it Catholics that aren't allowed to actually eat shellfish either?  

[01:16:57] Duuude-Ron :

Don't get me the line.  

[01:16:59] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. Or is that that may just be out, like, on, Friday because there's, like, a or or no meat Friday, and all you're allowed to eat is fish or something something like that? Well, that's that's during Lent.  

[01:17:13] Unknown:

Yeah. That's Lent. I know that during Yeah. The pit the fish on Friday is for Lent because they're not supposed to   eat meat,   and this is Catholicism,   not supposed to eat meat during   Lent.  

[01:17:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, it Okay.  

[01:17:31] Unknown:

You know, have I ever followed that rule? Hell no.   You know? I will I   Ash Wednesday,   I'll go have a burger   if I feel like I wanna have a burger.  

[01:17:47] Duuude-Ron :

See, that's the thing. You know? I I don't   I don't follow   none of those traditions because   that's what all   the Catholics are Lutherans are, isn't it?  

[01:18:01] Unknown:

What's that?  

[01:18:03] Duuude-Ron :

The,   Ash Wednesday and and stuff like that?  

[01:18:09] Unknown:

Well,   there's a well, there's a lot of,   Baptists do Ash Wednesday.   Do they not? They do?  

[01:18:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So know. That's I've never ever done Ash Wednesday.  

[01:18:22] Unknown:

Well, that's There might be Methodist that do, but I've not  

[01:18:26] Rich Chelson:

Baptist? No. It's just, it's just normal. We do our well, that's when all everybody gets together to do RA and GA.   I don't even know if they do that. And I think they now just combine all the kids together and do a Juannas is what they call it. So  

[01:18:41] Duuude-Ron :

But see, the thing see, the thing is, you know you know and and I just, yeah, I just read through what, you were saying, Brian, you know, in the Bible   and everything, and it's I get that. You know? And I'm not,   I mean, I need to do more more,   study on it,   but, you know, that's the thing again. And then when we get to the New Testament and Jesus dies,   he doesn't wipe   the laws,   but he brings in a,   you   know, kinda like a new set of rules, I think,   you know, where where a lot of   a lot of the old old laws   Yeah. Probably,   train Yeah. Well, that's kinda what I've taken. Moses. From Moses. Right. From the Old Testament to the New Testament.  

Yeah. You know? Some of them do carry, yes, but not   you know?   A lot of the ones people like to   harp on, it's like, yeah. You might wanna   read the New Testament a little more. You know? And I'm not saying there is not unclean animal like you said. As long as you know how to cook it,   you know,   cook it right, it's clean.  

[01:19:59] Unknown:

And tasty?  

[01:20:01] Duuude-Ron :

Very tasty, especially with salt and pepper.   But Yeah? Yeah. I yeah.   No. It's good. It's good that that   What you call them, Brian? The Zoomers?  

[01:20:18] Rich Chelson:

They are the Zoomers.  

[01:20:19] Unknown:

Okay. What's a Zoomer?  

[01:20:22] Rich Chelson:

Generation z.  

[01:20:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They're Oh, okay. They're after the,   millennials. Right?  

[01:20:32] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Millennials is gen y. So  

[01:20:37] Unknown:

And you know you know why it's gen y. Right?  

[01:20:41] Rich Chelson:

Oh, because it comes after x?  

[01:20:44] Unknown:

No.   Because all they knew all they knew how to say is y.   They they get told something,   why?   That's why they're   gen y.  

[01:21:01] Duuude-Ron :

Gen y. Yes.  

[01:21:04] Unknown:

Yeah. Because all they ever say is why? Why?  

[01:21:10] Duuude-Ron :

That's why.  

[01:21:12] Unknown:

It is. Kinda like Gladiator.  

[01:21:19] Duuude-Ron :

That is one of them.  

[01:21:21] Unknown:

I will not   I will not think of that word   again   differently.   That's just one of those   why.   But, you know, hey.   It only took you ten years to figure out the joke. Right?  

[01:21:48] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It just it was just ten years.  

[01:21:51] Unknown:

And then poof,   like a light bulb. Wow. I figured it out.   Kinda like the Rubik's cube   puzzle.   I've yet to ever figure out a Rubik's cube ever in my life.   And you got these kids that can do it in fucking less than ten seconds.  

[01:22:15] Rich Chelson:

With one hand?  

[01:22:17] Unknown:

Of course.   While while,   in the other hand, doing another Rubik's cube.   Yeah.   Yeah. Just never was that   that smart.   That's why I'm a truck driver.   That's why I'm a truck driver now.   And we can all say that.  

[01:22:45] Duuude-Ron :

I tried to not resemble that remark,   but Yeah. But but  

[01:22:51] Unknown:

you do.  

[01:22:53] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[01:22:54] Unknown:

You know, you do. I do.   You know, Brian does. You know?   Oh, yeah. You know? It's all it's all about, you know,   I guess, who you work for or who you drive for,   unless you're driving for yourself.   I don't want that headache.   I know it's good fucking money,   but I want that fucking headache.  

[01:23:18] Rich Chelson:

Alright.  

[01:23:19] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, yeah, it's good. Yeah. I guess,   you know,   making a hundred and 40,000 a year is good money, but   the fact is is, how much do you get to keep after you pay the bills?  

[01:23:32] Unknown:

Yep. That's that's true.   That is very true.   And, again, I don't want the fucking headache of those bills.   Fucking fuel, tires,   maintenance.  

[01:23:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:23:46] Unknown:

Fuck that.   I'll just I'll just get up   and go drive.   That's how we all were.   Wake up, go drive.  

[01:24:05] Duuude-Ron :

I did the,   lease operator thing   where I paid for everything.   So  

[01:24:14] Unknown:

But did you make better money   as a owner operator   versus,   you know, by the mile or by an hour?  

[01:24:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yes or no?   Say that because it it, depended on   how well I ran each week.  

[01:24:38] Unknown:

Yeah. And what kind of,   good or bad loads you got from your dispatcher?  

[01:24:46] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Well, if if if if I was finding my own loads   and, brokering myself,   you know,   dispatching myself, I did a whole lot better. But everybody wanted to put their hands in it and say, oh, no. You need to listen to us. Bullshit.   I'm the one making y'all money. Leave me alone.  

[01:25:06] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:25:07] Duuude-Ron :

No.   You know?   But then no. They were like, no. You need to listen to us. We know what's good for you. No. The hell you don't.   So   oh, yeah. I had fights with many dispatchers in many different companies   because they thought they knew better than I did.   And when they came down and ran the numbers   and everything,   they would never admit   that I was right,   but they knew I was.  

[01:25:42] Unknown:

Yeah.   That's when you tell them, hey. Why don't you come sit in this fucking seat behind the steering wheel?  

[01:25:50] Duuude-Ron :

No. I just said screw you. I went back to jail.   I did too. I'd   I'd leave that company and alright. Fine. Y'all wanna be like that? You know what? Y'all can pay me.   I won't I won't work that hard.   I'll just drive from point a to point b. Y'all can kiss my ass.  

[01:26:14] Unknown:

Well, that's what I do and you know? But I get paid by the hour.   So if I'm   loading and unloading my own truck   Yeah. I didn't get to do that today.   But usually well, yesterday, I when I got back, I unloaded and reloaded my truck and, you know, I paid for it.  

[01:26:36] Duuude-Ron :

See, that's where that's where you make,   you know,   you you make out better than, like, me and Brian do. But then again,   at the same time,   by   how hard we run,   Brian and I,   you know Yeah. We can actually make   make, more money than you.   It's it's a trade off really is what it is. I mean Yeah. You know, you've got you've got   kind of a set amount each week,   you know, with or without   overtime and   Mhmm. You know, but, like, Brian's week and my week,   you know,   would be good for a while.   But if we had a downtime for anything,   a breakdown or something, then, yeah, we'd we'd eat, eat our shirt.  



[01:27:28] Unknown:

Mhmm. Yeah.   And, you know,   yeah. And I'm not gonna get rich.  

[01:27:36] Duuude-Ron :

You know? No one make it less than the trucking industry.  

[01:27:40] Unknown:

Well,   well, no. Well, yeah, if you're the one that owns it.  

[01:27:48] Duuude-Ron :

No. Even as a driver, you're not gonna get rich.  

[01:27:51] Unknown:

No. I'm talking about, like,   somebody that owns a fleet.   Oh. Like like USA   Truck,   which has the largest fleet in The United States.   You know? Mhmm. Who owns the fleet?  

[01:28:08] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you say the thing is, do you know how to make a a small fortune in in in the trucking industry?   No. I have no clue. I I I will tell you. Start out with a large fortune.  

[01:28:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:28:26] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:28:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I said, that's that's an old joke. I I I was hearing back thirty plus years ago, and   if you stop and think about it, it's actually true.   As long as you got,   you know,   decent enough money,   you're gonna wind up with with a small fortune. But that's only if you start out with the you know, especially if you have a fleet of trucks. Because I've seen guys with five, ten, 15, 20 trucks   and just lose their ass.   Yeah.   You know?   So  

[01:29:06] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. That's   like any business.  

[01:29:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But it shouldn't be that way because,   this   there's stores across   The United States   that   needs food every day.   Warehouse that need products every day.  

[01:29:26] Unknown:

Yep. Okay. So and look at our industry   as   a whole.   Okay. Like you just mentioned, look at Walmart.   You know, they have Walmart   drivers   driving the Walmart trucks.   But   because of the lack of   people,   they Swift is contracted   to haul   Walmart trailers,   and now what is it? T,   TSI   is now hauling Walmart trailers because they can't find the drivers.  

[01:30:05] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And that's the thing. JB Hunt has been contracted for years to all Walmart.   Werner all been contracted,   to all Walmart. Walmart Walmart,   has has hired a lot of outside carriers, but you see the Walmart distribution centers,   they get,   a 50   trucks a day   at each of their distribution centers.   But that's the thing. What about you see,   wipe wipe Walmart off the map.   What about the mom and pop stores?  

[01:30:38] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:30:39] Duuude-Ron :

You know? I mean, they got   you know, they need stuff every day just as much as Walmart does.   You know? And that's why you have you have associated   grocer and   all them   garbage houses.   And Yeah.   You know?   Oh, yeah. It's it's but but, yeah, that's and, say, the thing is, no one   no company   wants to pay   for freight.   They, they wanna pay truck drivers   a dollar a mile or less   to haul their freight.  

[01:31:21] Unknown:

Uh-huh.  

[01:31:22] Duuude-Ron :

And they're having a hard time   finding people that'll do it or will do it   consistently   because a lot of people are like, no. We need a dollar 50 a mile.   You know, $2 a mile because of the cost of everything.   You know, blow   a tire blow a tire on the side of the road. You've got a fleet service.   Okay?   But but for for a regular company,   blow a tire on the side of the road and That's grams  

[01:31:54] Rich Chelson:

pretty much right off the bat.   Easy.  

[01:31:57] Duuude-Ron :

And and if you're running a super single   and you fuck the rim up as well,   that turned into over 2,000.   Yeah.   You know? So   that's why that's why they asked for,   you know, the   $2.02 $53   a mile. A lot of these companies say no. They ain't doing it.   Well, you know what?   Find someone to haul your shit, and it might get there when you want it to get there.  

[01:32:27] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:32:29] Duuude-Ron :

And that's the thing. And if you ask me, the government needs to get the fuck out of trucking.  

[01:32:36] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[01:32:39] Duuude-Ron :

Because they are the biggest   the biggest pains in the ass is when it comes to driving a truck.  

[01:32:47] Rich Chelson:

Well, yep. Government's,   you know, thanks to the government, the the, trucking industry is the the biggest regulated, unregulated   industry there is. Yes,  

[01:32:57] Duuude-Ron :

sir.   Yes, sir. And believe it or not,   our our lovely president Reagan   caused all that in the eighties.   Did he? Yes. He did.   Sad I trust me. I did not wanna say that statement, but it's a fact.   Look it up. Yeah. Yeah. Reagan did that.   I still love Reagan, though, but, yeah, that was that was one of his things that I did not agree with.   But I didn't the effects of it until,   like, the late nineties.  

[01:33:39] Unknown:

Why did he do  

[01:33:43] Duuude-Ron :

it? That's a good question. I don't know.  

[01:33:46] Unknown:

Was it for the money,   or was it to, you know,   the safety aspect?  

[01:33:55] Duuude-Ron :

It's though, it has never been about safety here in The United States ever.   It's all it's been all about the money.   DOT   a lot of   DOT is is all about the money.   Dude, it's not about safety. I mean,   I know I know the DOT has has,   I guess, tried to clean her's, you know, stuff up and make it safe and all like that, but,   you know, they will nail someone   with even a minor violation   and and obvious oversight. Let's say let's say you draw your line.   Well, now it's on   electronic logs,   but back in the days   of the paper logs,   let's say you actually went fifteen minutes.  

Your   your line went past a little bit.   Yeah. It wasn't even touching   the, next fifteen minutes. But if it went past,   they would nail you and write you a damn ticket.   It's like,   can't you see what I was doing there? And that was after you drew your line down or drew your line back up. If it went past, they would know you're asked for that.  

[01:35:08] Unknown:

Right. Oh, really?  

[01:35:09] Rich Chelson:

Yes. So I heard.  

[01:35:12] Duuude-Ron :

And and, like okay.   You know, I could see   lights out. Okay.   You know, if you, you know, if you have a marker light that just went out and and you're driving down the road,   you don't even know it.   They're gonna stop you and write you a fucking ticket for that marker light   because it's all about the money.   Yeah.   Okay? There I mean and, you know, if something's broke on your truck, yes, please. Grab it. You know?   You know? Do what you gotta do. I agree with that.   But when it comes when they can't find anything and they just keep looking and keep looking   until they do find something,   that's wrong.  



[01:36:00] Unknown:

Yeah. I I totally agree with that. You know? But do you agree that,   it was legal to run three logbooks?  

[01:36:10] Duuude-Ron :

Well, hell no.   Never said it was.   I I I mean I mean, I chose I chose well,   I I was I was kinda,   voluntoed   without being voluntoed,   but   that was how we had to run. And   the thing is, though, anytime I ever got stopped   and got a ticket,   I knew exactly what the fuck I was getting a ticket for   because I was running three logbooks   or, you know, whatever.   I was wrong.   So so I never   never threw a fit if I got a ticket.   I was speeding. I was overweight.   Okay? I I mean, anytime I ever got stopped,   you had me dead to rights wrong.   I was doing something to break the law,   so I didn't argue with nobody.  

But that's but you see, that's the thing. You know?   If if   I mean, I've talked to drivers where they had a light out.   One simple little light that went out going down the road. Hell, I gotta Yeah. I gotta fix it, take it in Arizona   because my fucking headlight went out   when I was driving down the road in the middle of the day   because I had them daytime running lights on.  

[01:37:38] Unknown:

Uh-huh.  

[01:37:39] Duuude-Ron :

Cop pulled me over.   I'm like, something wrong, officer? He's like, you have a headlight out. I said, excuse me? It's daytime.   You know, I forgot I had them daytime running lights.   And he's like, no. You have a headlight out.   Wrote me a fix it ticket.   Okay?   Wasn't supposed to be any money. I went down. I said, alright. I'll fix it next truck stop. I'll stop the next one. Drove down next one. Fixed   it,   forgot to   send   a   the warning ticket in or what. If I got to do something,   three years later, they had suspended my fucking driver's license   because of of of this ticket, of this because I didn't   finish   doing the paperwork. I mean, I didn't think nothing of it. You know?  

But, see, it's shit like that. It was all about the money.   Yeah.   You know? I mean, my headlights work.   So yeah. No. I I I've never said I was I was,   you know  

[01:38:51] Unknown:

yeah. Well, look at all the well, look at all the outlaw truck drivers,   you know, on   speed or whatever and drive them for three days straight.   You know?  

[01:39:03] Duuude-Ron :

Now you're all life in the seventies and eighties.  

[01:39:06] Unknown:

I know. But I'll go sixties.   But, you know, how many people got killed because of that? Well, that's a good question.  

[01:39:18] Duuude-Ron :

That's a good question. But but, again, how many how many people get killed today   over the same shit?  

[01:39:26] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. I know.  

[01:39:28] Duuude-Ron :

You know? I mean, you know, I'm I mean, we can talk about then and now all we want.   You know? And, yes, and, yes, things have gotten a lot safer over the years, but there's still a lot of inconsistencies,   with the way things are ran in the trucking industry   when you have   the trucking companies and the government involved.  

[01:39:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Well,   I'm not disagreeing with that.   Right.   Now, of course, I've never OTR'd.   Mine has always   been with the company now that I've been with   as of,   what,   two   two weeks ago, I've been with   my company for fifteen years  

[01:40:18] Duuude-Ron :

now. Oh, wow. Has it been that long?  

[01:40:21] Unknown:

Yeah. Uh-huh.  

[01:40:23] Duuude-Ron :

Crazy.  

[01:40:24] Unknown:

Yep.   So and what? I've been driving for   five years now, six years.   So   but, yeah, just turned fifteen years last month.   That's crazy. And what did I and what did I get for it?  

[01:40:45] Duuude-Ron :

Nothing.  

[01:40:46] Unknown:

Nothing.   Yeah. Am I supposed to get something? Yes. I haven't seen it yet.   You know?   On my ten year   thing, I got a fucking   a pen   that said ten years   and, you know,   had a   lunch.   That was it.   I'm like, you know and I'm not expecting anything for fifteen years of service. You know?   The only thing they have to do is pay me   for the work that I do. That's all they owe me.   Right. We agreed we agreed on   this   set number   that I receive per hour.   They don't have to do anything else.   You know? Just   I'm like, you know, hey.   You know the fucking day. I'll   go to bed tonight and then wake up tomorrow and, you know,   repeat. Rinse and repeat?  

And rinse and repeat.   Exactly.   You know?   But, I don't know if you guys know, and I know, Rich, you don't give a shit.   Domi   because we've already talked about this. So I know Rich does not give a shit,   but Domi was confirmed   as the new DOJ,   director of the, DOJ.   I don't know. Are you following that, Brian?  

[01:42:24] Rich Chelson:

Not entirely, but, but, I figured he was gonna be.  

[01:42:29] Unknown:

Well, then they're they're wanna do another hearing with   whoever,   Trump's,   selection for the   director of the FBI   because   the Democrats   think that once he gets into office,   he is gonna go after   the prosecutors   and all that   for the January 6,   insurrection   and   the   impeachment   of Trump   and all that shit.   Yes. Well, if they fuck up.   You know,   if they wouldn't have fucking did what they did,   they wouldn't have to be fucking worried about watching their damn backs now.  

[01:43:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god.  

[01:43:31] Unknown:

But I'm glad that Dobby got,   she got sworn in. I think it was today or yesterday   for the director of the DOJ.  

[01:43:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That   I swear.   I swear.   See, this is this is why America is laughed at by the rest of the fucking world.   You're right. For shit like this.  

[01:43:58] Rich Chelson:

Well, to a point, they're laughed at, but also to a point,   they don't under they have no idea on how how we run. They think that they   their their form of of government   and their form of society is supposed to be somehow better.  

[01:44:15] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:44:17] Rich Chelson:

Yet, I mean, they all everybody has the exact same problem as the other person.   So, I mean, you look at, I mean, you look at, like,   over in, Germany, they have the,   the what is it? The AFD,   I think, is what the name of the,   the   the party is, of course,   parliamentary. So they've got, like, 37 different parties   and and stuff.   But,   the AFD, their Germany's working   way, way hard   to try to outlaw   this party because it's the party that everybody's liking,   but it is   their   the the   politicians   of of,   of   of Germany   are trying to say that they are they are far extreme right.   And the only thing that they're really running on is that we're going to stop immigration   because all of Europe has an immigration well, not all of, not all of Europe. I would believe Poland   doesn't have a problem with immigration because they basically have said, yeah. No. We ain't taking any fucking immigrants. You can go pound sand, buddy.  

But,   but   Great Britain, even though they're not a part of the EU anymore,   they're running into problems. I mean, they they had,   at the current rate, I think they actually need to build five more,   Manchesters to actually house all the new immigrants that have come in.   They're having problems. They've had they had the, the stabbing of a bunch of, a bunch of kindergartners and stuff,   oh, two or three months ago.   The parents   of some of the other schools that are close to immigrant hotels   are   pulling their kids out of the out of schools because   they're the immigrants just they go when school's going it is in set   when Beverly is taking their kids to school or picking up their kids,   you have a group of, of these all you know, these young men.  

That's what they always are, young men who are coming to,   come over to, to to the,   country,   and walk from the,   from the immigrant hotel   over to the school and hang out and photograph and and videotape the kids as they come out of school.   And, yeah, the parents are just like going, yeah, we ain't doing the the women are have   have felt,   less   safe   thanks to the immigrants.   But if you talk about   the what's wrong with the immigrants   and the immigrants,   and complain about the, about the immigrants and stuff,   you're the one who gets put in jail.  

[01:47:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See, that's  

[01:47:26] Rich Chelson:

Because you're being insensitive.   And that same thing is happening in Germany.   And German the German people are going, dude, we're not.   The Germans are quickly losing the majority   of the,   of the, of the country.   And they're you've got their politicians running around going, well, diversity is our greatest strength. It's just like,   no.   Because you're you don't have anything that you're you're standing on. There's just bunch of illegal immigrants being brought in.   And so yeah. And so yeah. You've got   all of all of the, of Europe is is in much as much trouble   and is has as much,   turmoil   as what America does. And, yeah, they like to stand around and go, yeah. America doesn't know what they're doing. It's like, yeah. Well, you you look at yourself, and you're gonna see, dude, you have no idea what you're doing either.  



[01:48:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Seeing myself,   I would never want   to live in Great Britain   only because they would not allow me to have my pew pews.  

[01:48:48] Rich Chelson:

Nope. Nope. You're not allowed to carry those with you.  

[01:48:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. So that would be that would be a no go. Right there. Definitely  

[01:48:56] Unknown:

a no go.   I have my two p.  

[01:49:00] Duuude-Ron :

I've got a couple of them, but   either way, it's like, yeah, give me a go, no go for lunch. And, yeah, that's a no go.  

[01:49:09] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   And that I mean, that's that's one thing that they struggle with understanding is why are y'all allowed to have guts?   Because we went through   the the tyrancy before. Right. King George was, you know, was not the greatest greatest,   example of British rule.  

[01:49:34] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you're right. Exactly. But you see, the Germans   have gone through the same shit.   Oh, yeah. You would think they would have learned.   Other countries have gone through the same shit.  

[01:49:47] Rich Chelson:

Well Yeah. The the thing that is, well,   if you listen if you listen to no agenda,   they, they are talking a bit about that. And what they're because   this is the longest   Europe has gone without a war   ever.  

[01:50:09] Duuude-Ron :

Wasn't   you  

[01:50:11] Rich Chelson:

Europe was over in Iraq and Afghanistan? No. No. No. No. I mean, amongst themselves.   Oh. Europe has not been in war at war since World War two.   Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You've had a little dust up here and there and stuff. You got kinda what's going on with Russia   and and Ukraine.   But where you have, like, France punching Germany in the nose and and, and Sweden's going along, you know, giving everybody a big, old, huge atomic wedgie.   They're not they're not doing it. They haven't done that in a long while. Well, that's And and damn near a hundred years.   And they're really starting to start they're really starting to itch.  

They're getting a little bit of a twitch going on. They're like, we gotta do gotta do something, you know, with we gotta   because   Trump has already started saying, hey, man. We're gonna   y'all y'all need to start ditch pitching in a little bit more money   with NATO,   or we're just gonna go ahead and just say, screw it, guys. Y'all y'all do it yourselves.   And you have, like, the,   the the head of NATO, Mark Rutte,   is,   and he's start he's trying to run around and be a big,   American,   cheerleader   by saying, well, we need to use Americans,   the American   weapon systems.  

And so because it's all NATO and everything about NATO and all and all war is just   it's not really about,   you know, he said, she said anymore or he he poked me in the in in the in the eye, and he was being mean and hurt my feelings anymore. It's more about,   hey. Let's go pick a fight with that guy. We can make ourselves a hundred billion dollars real quick.   Yeah.   And so that that's one has gotten around too. They're like going, man, we've gotta start may figuring out how we're gonna make some more money here.   So, you know, they're   trying to find out and figure out, well, who do we who do we go   who who do we pants here real quick so we can get them pissed off so they attack us?  

And   so, yeah,  

[01:52:29] Duuude-Ron :

Europe is Europe. I don't know if anybody would.  

[01:52:33] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.   You they'll find someone. They'll find I mean, heck, they've got enough enough,   Muslims from Africa   in in Europe now.   True. It's just a matter of time before one of them gets, you know, gets   a wild hair up their butt and say inside to do an all bark bar someplace and   then,   you know, and then they're gonna oh, okay. There we go. We got our excuse. Let's go to town.   So I'm surprised the Chechens hadn't hadn't tried something again in a while.  

[01:53:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They I yeah. They   they some crazy bastards.  

[01:53:19] Rich Chelson:

Well, they're the ones who blew up the the Boston Marathon.  

[01:53:23] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Oh, yeah. But   I don't know. It just   see that's where that's   you know,   let everybody knock each other.  

[01:53:34] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[01:53:36] Duuude-Ron :

Is as long as you don't come to my front door,  

[01:53:40] Rich Chelson:

I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, knock yourself out, dude. Knock knock knock knock your neighbor out. Just don't come knocking on my front door.   You're not gonna like it. No. No. You'll we'll find out how easily you breathe through your forehead.  

[01:53:55] Duuude-Ron :

Right. That's true.  

[01:53:57] Rich Chelson:

That's true.   Still one of my favorite movies.   You ever seen cuffs?   Seen what? Cuffs with Christian Slater?   No. I don't think so. Oh my god. You've gotta watch that. That is one of the best ones.   Just because he's a yeah. Because   in, in apparently in San Francisco, they have private police forces   Okay. To help monitor crime. And you are people were actually able to buy into them. And,   the basis says is that,   you had a a guy who's   kind of a slacker. He and and he decides   he,   his family   had   a   had one of these one of these businesses   where he was a, private police, and they would go around and   and,   and protect their little district.  

And Cuff,   Cuff finds out that his his girlfriend is is pregnant, and so he's like, oh, I I gotta so you gotta settle down and start doing something. So he goes to take over the family business   and become more active in it, and,   and he just kinda shakes everything up as he goes. And it's just it's absolutely hilarious. But one of the things is the one of the bad guys he meets with, he,   is talking to him and whips out his gun gun and puts it up to his forehead and makes something, or shall we just go ahead and see how well you can breathe through your forehead?   And   and the funny thing is is down the road, he ends up getting shot, but on his shirt is a picture of himself,   and he's actually shot in the middle of his forehead   of his shirt.  

So, you know, technically, he did get shot in the middle of his forehead, but then there's also his accountant. There's a scene with his accountant, which   I'm gonna leave it to you.   Watch cuffs. It's c k u f f s.   It's got judge Ryan Holt in it. It's just it's it's an incredible oh my god. Oh my god. It's Bernie. You know, just it's Listen. It it   it's a movie. Right? It's a movie. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. One of the best Christian Slater movies you'll ever come across.  

[01:56:20] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:56:21] Rich Chelson:

It is   it is my favorite of the of the Christian Slaters.  

[01:56:28] Duuude-Ron :

It was made back in 1992.  

[01:56:30] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   And, oh my god, it's amazing.  

[01:56:34] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Now I'd I'd never even   seen this advertised.  

[01:56:39] Rich Chelson:

Oh, hell, man. Yeah. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. I mean, he has trouble with turkeys too. I'll just that's just a running joke and thing.   So you'll you'll love it.   Okay.  

[01:56:51] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.   So so this,   cinematic aspect of a 1992   movie is gonna be classic.  

[01:56:59] Rich Chelson:

Absolutely.   Especially with its Christian Slater. And like I said, this is the it's just   Cuffs,   is just one of those movies you just   it becomes an instant favorite. I've not known anybody who saw it and went,   It was alright. Well, correction. I'm new one person, but she she doesn't like anything.   So it was, you know,   it was like, it was alright. Well, it was better than what you normally say, which is, oh god. That was horrible.   So   Do I was her first name  

[01:57:34] Unknown:

was her first name Karen?  

[01:57:36] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No, Sherry.   You didn't get it, did you? Oh, yeah. No. I got it. I got it. I just Perfect. I didn't have problems   writing out writing out who it was. So  

[01:57:47] Duuude-Ron :

so   So, so she hasn't changed yet?  

[01:57:51] Rich Chelson:

Oh, he'll know. Okay.  

[01:57:55] Duuude-Ron :

I I I   I didn't know. You know? You you   you you hadn't mentioned that about her in quite a long time.  

[01:58:04] Rich Chelson:

So that's, you know Well, I actually in all reality, I'm trying to keep the the drama that I associate with her   kinda low   just because she   does have a great tendency.   Though she is a she is a friend who will   die for you if need.   She loves her drama.   Oh. And,   oh, yeah. She is all about it. And, yeah, you   and,   yeah. She   and there's times that, you know, if I feel like I feel like having a drama spree, which I mean, I do. I I there's times it's like, hey. So what's the drama? And I'll talk to the wife and then, so what what's the drama go doing? And she'll she'll lay it on me, and 90% of it's all, you know, something with Sherry and her daughter. And it's just yeah. Yeah. I'll get my I'll get my little self righteous sanctimonious   ass all worked up. It's like, oh my god.  

Okay. We're good. So  

[01:59:07] Duuude-Ron :

I had my thirty seconds of  

[01:59:09] Rich Chelson:

wound up. I'm good. Yeah. We're good. Okay. Thanks. Thanks. Alright.  

[01:59:14] Duuude-Ron :

It wasn't good for you  

[01:59:16] Rich Chelson:

as you're lighting up this year. There are times that, oh god. It was whoo. Need a cigarette after that one. That was that got me really worked up. Yeah. Damn it. So  

[01:59:26] Unknown:

But did but did you get but did you give a reach around?   No. No. No. No. I ain't about to do that. No reach around? No. No. No. I've that I am not considered in that way. So  

[01:59:37] Duuude-Ron :

You didn't have your WUSA,   happen? Oops.   He's lost. Yep.  

[01:59:46] Rich Chelson:

That was a third army term at me. I have no idea what to tell about.  

[01:59:50] Duuude-Ron :

No. I said Woosah.   Remember remember when I said   last week, we were talking about,   you know, my my my paintings   that I did. I I I says that's   that's like my woosah   moment, and   dude was like, you know, you and dude were like,   you know, that's fine just as long as we don't see As long as you don't give it on me. Yeah. Exactly.   Dude, do the sound.   There you go.  

[02:00:29] Rich Chelson:

So Woosau, is that kinda like wash your sister sauce?  

[02:00:34] Duuude-Ron :

Excuse me? No.  

[02:00:36] Unknown:

No.  

[02:00:37] Rich Chelson:

I was asking, is Woosah a lot like anything close to, like, wash your sister sauce?  

[02:00:44] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, now I get it. Oh. Okay. Sorry. Yeah.  

[02:00:48] Rich Chelson:

We're just we're just gonna send them over each other's head all night. We're just we're just having random ICBM fights. You know?   Joe so Woah.   I'm too it will flow over my head. I am too fast. I won't catch it.  

[02:01:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. Yeah. That was that was just flying too fast for me.   Too fast.   But   no. Yeah. No. I was just I was just wondering about that.   Go ahead, dude. Yeah.  

[02:01:23] Unknown:

When you sent out those four pictures of your latest   artwork   Uh-huh. Are two of those round?  

[02:01:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.  

[02:01:33] Unknown:

Okay. I just wanna make sure that I wasn't   no optical illusions that, you know,   may have the paint may have gotten lost on the corners and   that they were around. Okay.   But I like that last one that you the fourth one that was actually that came up online that I commented   cool on.  

[02:01:58] Duuude-Ron :

I gotta look, see which one you're talking about.   I'd have to relook at it. But That, that, black and yellow one   at or the yellow, white, gray, and and has the black in it   and the orange. Yeah. That's that's a eight by eight square. Yeah. That's the one.  

[02:02:18] Unknown:

I think so.  

[02:02:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's, yeah, that's the one. I remember that one now.   Yeah. That one that one actually,   turned out really, really well.  

[02:02:29] Unknown:

And, Yeah. I like that one.  

[02:02:32] Duuude-Ron :

And,   I,   I actually have more paint coming.   But,   yeah, if you zoom in on on that one and   and the other eight by eight one, the the one in the top left   on the Facebook page,   it,   when I shake these up, you know, to mix everything   again Uh-huh. Since it's so long,   it makes air bubbles in them, and I have to pop them.   You know, I I use a heat gun,  

[02:03:09] Unknown:

and I Right.  

[02:03:11] Duuude-Ron :

And I and I pop the bubbles.   Well,   you say   on this first,   black one   with the yellow and the white and the, all the different colors   Yeah. That first square when when   I,   hit it with the heat gun,   it was it was   see, I used the base of   used the base of black, but my white,   it was, like, popping the white the air bubbles in the white, and it was it was letting   other colors come through, and it looked like it was speckled.   Well, it is speckled, but, I mean, it looked   something was going on to the painting, and it wasn't. It was just the air bubbles that were popping   showing the other colors underneath,   which I thought were rather fucking cool.  



[02:04:02] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:04:03] Duuude-Ron :

And it happened on the blue and white one, mostly blue and white. I've got different colors in there, but,   you know, you can see   you know, if you bring the picture up, it looks like specks on it.  

[02:04:17] Unknown:

Yeah. Yep.  

[02:04:19] Duuude-Ron :

That's just the air bubbles that popped that was in the paint.   Oh, okay. So so when   I popped the bubbles, it it, you know, made them different colors, which I thought, oh, okay. That's cool.  

[02:04:32] Unknown:

Yeah. Then the  

[02:04:34] Duuude-Ron :

round ones, I was like,   oh, shit. I've got extra paint left. Let me try something.   So that's why the round ones came out like they did.  

[02:04:43] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:04:44] Duuude-Ron :

So   so, yeah, the the, two round ones   were just the extra colors   or the the I had a small amount of paint left in each cup   after each pour.   And so that's why I pulled the round ones out, and I said I said, let me try that.   And so, yeah, I'm just trying things, man.  

[02:05:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:05:08] Duuude-Ron :

So   and these are drying right now.  

[02:05:13] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:05:17] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, I've got more paint coming tomorrow.   I need to get over and go shopping,   on base.   Go food shopping, but   I'm gonna wind up going to Ivory. Spent all his money on paint.   So spent I spent quite a bit. I can't   He he he he I've got I've got another   32 jars of paint coming.  

[02:05:46] Unknown:

God bless god.  

[02:05:48] Duuude-Ron :

Wow. Yeah.   Yeah. I've got I've got I've got eight,   see, I think eight more   metallic colors   coming,   and I've got,   24   regular colors coming.   And then a big jug of white and a big jug of black because I use white and black a lot.   So so, yeah, I've got those,   Yeah. I've got those coming.  

[02:06:28] Unknown:

Well, there you go.   So, yeah, I'll be doing you're doing anywhere from two, three, four a day.  

[02:06:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I don't I   it depends. I don't.   When I do a sit, I try and wait a day in between to give   the ones I got   a little dry time before I start moving them a lot.  

[02:06:53] Unknown:

Uh-huh. Yeah.  

[02:06:54] Duuude-Ron :

So,   I've So this week, I've only poured once so far this week, but I'll probably wind up pouring more again. And I'm probably gonna go to Canvas now.   Because this I'm I'm doing it on Canvas,   but these are Canvas boards.   Yeah. So it's,   but but I'm I'm gonna be actually   pouring on   actual stretched canvas,   which is just Yeah. Fresh canvas. Uh-huh.   So so I'm gonna start,   pouring on stretched canvas   probably,   tomorrow   or Saturday.   Yeah. This is Thursday. So yeah.   But, yeah, these   these ones I've been doing, it it just been,   these ones I've been doing, it just been   on Canvas boards, which, I mean, those were these work.  



[02:07:51] Unknown:

You know? Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. And you put them you put them in a frame, they're   what the hell is the difference?  

[02:07:58] Duuude-Ron :

Well, true.   That's true.   But, yeah, I gotta I gotta sign them too yet.   Haven't signed them.  

[02:08:10] Unknown:

You need to make yourself a unique   signature.  

[02:08:15] Duuude-Ron :

I'm working on that.   Okay.   I'm working on that.  

[02:08:21] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because how many we all know way too many Richard Chalsens around there.  

[02:08:28] Unknown:

Right? Well, you know, he he has to have a, like, a real   unique   signature,   you know, and then a little maybe a little smiley face   as part of this signature   or, you know, a   a z like in the,   ZZ Top's car.   You know, it has that z on it. I would say that Zorro, but okay. Yeah. No. No. The   ZZ Top or,   you know, something   very unique.  

[02:09:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I I'm   I'm rolling around some ideas.   I'm not sure yet   what what which one I'm gonna go.   Because, I I mean, I could put RC, but   no. No. That just that's just no.   I want I'm different. I wanna be different.   Well, I am different, but, you know, y'all know what I mean. You're oh, yeah. We know. You're all kinds  

[02:09:33] Unknown:

of fucking different.  

[02:09:36] Duuude-Ron :

Right?  

[02:09:38] Unknown:

Yeah.   Thank god they fucking broke the mold after making you.  

[02:09:43] Duuude-Ron :

Thank god. I couldn't deal with two of myself.  

[02:09:46] Unknown:

I know.  

[02:09:47] Duuude-Ron :

I would have to kick my own ass every day.   Yeah.   But  

[02:09:54] Unknown:

Well, have you guys ever have you guys ever seen the picture of my twin brother?  

[02:10:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. You showed us. Oh, okay. Okay.   It's been a couple months back.   But, yeah, I remember you you had sent it through that chat. I don't know if it was on the podcast, but it was on,   might have been on a Wednesday night call.  

[02:10:19] Unknown:

It might have been.  

[02:10:21] Duuude-Ron :

If I remember right, but don't quote me. I don't. Yeah.   Because that was a long time ago.  

[02:10:30] Unknown:

Yeah. It was.   I couldn't remember if I had showed you, but yeah.   Ten inches taller than me.  

[02:10:39] Duuude-Ron :

That's crazy.  

[02:10:41] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:10:44] Duuude-Ron :

How'd you wind up so short?  

[02:10:48] Rich Chelson:

He got the looks of the family.  

[02:10:50] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[02:10:54] Unknown:

The wrong sperm, I guess.  

[02:10:57] Duuude-Ron :

Well, hold it. I don't know. Hold it. You have a twin.   It was the same sperm, dude.  

[02:11:04] Rich Chelson:

No. Not necessarily.   No. No. Uh-uh. I mean, if it's an identical twin, then yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If it's identical twin,  

[02:11:13] Unknown:

then yes.   If it's fraternal,   no.  

[02:11:17] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Alright.   It's saying how do we  

[02:11:21] Unknown:

We would win   if we if me and my brother went to the Twins   Convention in Twins, Ohio,   we would, hands   down,   win the trophy   for Fraternal Twins.   Because we look, you wouldn't   even know that we were brothers walking down the street,   let alone   twins.  

[02:11:47] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[02:11:49] Unknown:

Yeah.   We look nothing   alike. Zero.   You wouldn't even know that we were related if we just happen to be walking down the street.   Yeah.  

[02:12:07] Duuude-Ron :

That's   crazy.   That I I don't I don't think I've   met very many people like that.  

[02:12:18] Unknown:

You know, as far as twins,   the majority   are identical.   I think it's, like,   in the eighty   percentile   of twins,   they're identical, and, like, 17%   is   paternal,   something like that.  

[02:12:41] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I would hate to find a girl and find out she has a twin because   y'all would get in all kinds of trouble.  

[02:12:49] Unknown:

Well, yeah.   Here here's the thing.   Me and my twin   met   twins   in high school   that happened to be fraternal.   Really?   She yeah. I dated one, and my brother dated the other one.  

[02:13:07] Duuude-Ron :

Well, see, that that was safe.   That was safe.   But I'm talking identical twins.   And Oh, yeah. You know, I'm I'm dating a girl and then, oh, yeah.   Meet my   meet my identical twin sister.  

[02:13:24] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Am  

[02:13:26] Unknown:

after you have already   spanked her on the ass.   Right?  

[02:13:32] Duuude-Ron :

And be like, uh-oh. I'm in I'm dead. That's it.   I'm I'm drawn and quartered.   Oh, yeah.   You know?   But I I I have never been settled with that problem.  

[02:13:53] Unknown:

Well, you probably won't have to.  

[02:13:57] Duuude-Ron :

You never know.   Well, you're right. You just never know. Come on now. I mean, you never know.  

[02:14:04] Unknown:

You know? Well, you're right. You could,   like you said, if you get frozen out one more time, you're fucking leaving The States.   And you might go to   Taiwan   and find  

[02:14:20] Rich Chelson:

Find a good looking mama, son.  

[02:14:23] Unknown:

Well, you know, some younger twin sisters and,   you know, you may just have some lot of fun.  

[02:14:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, you you know you know, that's,   you see, that's the thing because over there,   a lot of them girls look so much alike at just first glance.   Yeah. I would get confused.   I would I would need to put a light or something on on my girl so I knew which one   I was searching for.   Because, I mean Yeah. And I'm  

[02:14:56] Unknown:

sure that, you know,   two Asians,   Caucasians   look all the same.   Yeah.  

[02:15:05] Duuude-Ron :

Probably.   I don't know.  

[02:15:07] Unknown:

I don't know either. I've never asked one.   So I may be fucking talking out my ass, which is   not uncommon.  

[02:15:17] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right.  

[02:15:19] Unknown:

Yeah. Absolutely not uncommon.  

[02:15:23] Duuude-Ron :

But yeah. No. It just it just   yeah. Dating   dating a girl that has a twin sister that looks exactly like her, same age and everything, god, that would be  

[02:15:35] Unknown:

amazing. Well, obviously, they're gonna be the same age. Come on now.  

[02:15:44] Duuude-Ron :

I've never met twins. I how do I know?  

[02:15:49] Unknown:

Yeah. They're all yeah.  

[02:15:53] Duuude-Ron :

I'm messing with you, dude.   Well, partly.  

[02:15:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:16:00] Unknown:

Do I care? Not not really.  

[02:16:02] Duuude-Ron :

No. I I mean, I wasn't I I wasn't trying to be mean. It's just I've never met twins, I don't think.  

[02:16:09] Unknown:

Yeah. They're all   born within minutes of each other.  

[02:16:15] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Yeah. We had, we had two sets of fraternals in in,   Sunray.   You had the Amador's, and then you had the Wingos.  

[02:16:27] Duuude-Ron :

Amador Wingo wedding.  

[02:16:29] Rich Chelson:

What about the Amador Wingo funeral? Well, they were both set two sets of girls.   So so not not quite a Amador Wingo wedding. So  

[02:16:41] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean, no. Not back at that time frame. But Not back in that time frame. Nope. You know, today, that might be a little different, but, you know, you could have an Amador Wingo funeral home.   You know?   Just say you could. That's just   Amador and wing   Wingo. Right? Wingo.   Wingo.   Yep. Wow. That's crazy. That   that is some cool names.   Kind of.  

[02:17:14] Rich Chelson:

Are you me? Brenda, Rigid,   Amador, and,   Monica  

[02:17:24] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, Monica's a beaut And Melissa.  

[02:17:27] Rich Chelson:

And Melissa?   Shit. They're gonna kick my ass if they hear this.   Oh, that would be great. Oh god. I can't remember the Wingo sisters' names.  

[02:17:39] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   hey. Wingo sisters.   [email protected].  

[02:17:45] Rich Chelson:

Oh, we're friends on Facebook. I could find them, but  

[02:17:50] Duuude-Ron :

oh, man.   That would be I don't  

[02:17:54] Unknown:

know. I don't remember, and I don't have anybody on Facebook   or nor do I remember   anybody in high school.  

[02:18:06] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[02:18:07] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:18:11] Duuude-Ron :

I remember a few people. In fact, Facebook pops up with with a few of the people that,   I went to school with. And some of the names I gotta I gotta actually think about for a minute   and,   look at the picture. You know? And sometimes that helps, but not always.  

[02:18:29] Unknown:

Yeah. But,  

[02:18:31] Duuude-Ron :

yeah, there's there's a few names that it's like, dang.   I haven't thought about them names for a day or two. You know? Oh, here's  

[02:18:41] Unknown:

a really good story, and it's gonna take a couple minutes. So just listen.   When I was going up, I was still in the military, and I was no.   Fuck. I don't remember. Yeah.   No. I wasn't in the military.   But when my mom,   when I went to go see my mom right before she passed away  

[02:19:10] Rich Chelson:

Melissa Melinda. That's what it was.   Do what? Oh, I just I was finding I was looking them up. Yeah. Melissa Melinda. That's who they were. Okay. Not Monica.  

[02:19:22] Unknown:

Well, now that we got that straight Oh, yeah. So so I was, you know,   on my way from,   Texas,   going up 35,   and this guy was broke down.   It was about   a little bit   on the Northern Side of Oklahoma,   And, you know, I he was, you know, broke down on the side of the road, and I just stopped to see if I couldn't render assistance.   So, you know, it ended up being that we left his car there,   and it would just started snowing in the Northern part of Oklahoma   because this was   March early March time frame.   So I said, you know, okay. I'll   I'll give you a ride.  

And he's like, well, I'm going to Nebraska. I'm like, well, so am I.   And he was like,   fucking his eyes just got fucking huge.   So,   as we're driving up north,   you know, we're chatting up a storm.   And I said, okay. Once I get up to York, Nebraska,   I'm gonna be getting on I 80 and hanging a right.   Can you get somebody to pick you up in York? Because he was from Kearney.  

[02:20:51] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[02:20:52] Unknown:

And so,   you know, the whole   time he's trying to find a friend, his spouse to, you know,   come pick him up in York is but his spouse, they had,   what,   two young kids, and it was gonna be basically   murder to get kids into a car and, you know, pick him up in York   at 01:00 in the morning.   And I you know, we got probably about a half an hour from York, and I told him, you know what?   Just stop calling around. I'll just   take you to the house.   So that was about   an hour and a half from York to Kearney. So that added three   roughly three hours to my trip.  

I'm like, okay. Not a big deal. It's, you know,   three hours.   So but while we were driving up north,   I found out   his   mom   was a girl that I went to high school with   that I had a crush on   in high school.   Oh, damn. That's crazy. And and never pursued her, though,   because we didn't run-in the same   social circles.   Oh, god. She was one of those well, she was one of those that was in the   middle   or the   middle upper class   side circles, and, of course, I was down. You know, I was a hood   as they would call it in, oh, what the hell is that movie? The Outsiders.  

[02:22:34] Duuude-Ron :

You was a hood rat.  

[02:22:36] Unknown:

Yeah. I was I was a, like the Outsiders, there was the   damn, what were the names of the two groups in the Outsiders?  

[02:22:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I don't know.   They never seen that movie.  

[02:22:48] Rich Chelson:

Oh, you never seen the outsiders?  

[02:22:51] Duuude-Ron :

I don't think so.   It does not ring a bell.  

[02:22:55] Unknown:

But I I was, you know, in the hood class.   She was in the kind of upper middle class, but, you know, I   socks.   The greasers that I was yeah. I was a greaser. She was in the socks.   So but I and I never pursued her because of that social dis difference.   But what is the what's the Chinaman's chance in hell   that a girl   that you had a crush on in high school   was the mom   of the kid I picked up   in Oklahoma   just rendering   aid and give him a ride all the way back up to Nebraska,   what are the odds?  

[02:23:40] Duuude-Ron :

That'd be cool.  

[02:23:41] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:23:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. The odds are astronomical, dude. Odds are astronomical.  

[02:23:46] Unknown:

And when, you know, he sent, or he, you know, got his picture   and I saw her picture, I it was almost like her yearbook push. I'm like, I told I told him, like, yeah. I had a crush on your mom in high school.   What do you say? They did fucking his eyes just got big as saucers and just started laughing.   Yeah. That was   what are the odds? Shoulda asked him if she was single.   She wasn't.   Oh, okay. Yeah. No. She wasn't. She was still married  

[02:24:23] Duuude-Ron :

to his dad. Well Oh, okay. Well, alright. No.   That's cool.  

[02:24:30] Unknown:

And, you know, I didn't I didn't see a picture. He didn't show me a picture or or a recent picture at the time,   you know, of his mom. So I I don't know what she looks like now. Yeah. I just saw the one   that when she was in high school.   Just said, you know,   reminded me of who she was.  

[02:24:51] Duuude-Ron :

Well, if you know her name, look her up on Facebook.  

[02:24:54] Unknown:

I don't remember her name, to tell you the truth. I'd have to I'd have to pull my my yearbooks out.   But, again, she wouldn't have the same last name as she did in high school.  

[02:25:08] Duuude-Ron :

Well, true.   This is true.  

[02:25:11] Unknown:

So   and I haven't been to any of my high school reunions.   Well, we're coming up on, what, '30   I graduated in '86,   '90 '6, o '6, '16,   '20 '6. I don't know if they're gonna have a I don't know if they're gonna have a fortieth there soon. Yeah. I don't know if they're gonna have a fortieth year reunion or not.   I   might   have to go up there   for the fortieth.  

[02:25:44] Duuude-Ron :

I ain't never been to any one of mine.  

[02:25:47] Unknown:

You I haven't been to any of mine as of yet either.  

[02:25:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I couldn't I wouldn't able to go to any of mine just because I was I was freaking working, but  

[02:25:57] Unknown:

I've been wanting to. Yeah. Yeah. Same here.  

[02:26:00] Duuude-Ron :

And see, may not   you know you know, that's funny because in high school   I don't remember much about high school. You know, I knew  

[02:26:10] Rich Chelson:

Okay. I don't remember a lot.  

[02:26:11] Duuude-Ron :

You see, I don't. I and I don't know why, I guess well, one, I was,   I was an outsider. I mean, I did know quite a few,   you know, of of my classmates   and all. I mean, we had a 20 kids in our class.  

[02:26:28] Unknown:

And, Damn. You know how many I had in my class?  

[02:26:32] Duuude-Ron :

What? Two?   No. I'm interested with you.  

[02:26:36] Unknown:

+1.   40 2.   Was in my graduating class.  

[02:26:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See. But,   you know and I I knew a lot of people, but I didn't get to hang out with them. So, you know, a lot of people wouldn't even know me. Some do, and I'm I'm friends with a couple of them on, Facebook.   But,   you know,   Yeah. Most of them   wouldn't even know who I am.  

[02:27:10] Unknown:

Yeah. Same here.  

[02:27:11] Duuude-Ron :

So   that's why I don't go, really.  

[02:27:17] Unknown:

I just wanna see how   how they turned out.  

[02:27:23] Duuude-Ron :

Seeing it that   with me, it's like, you   you do you, boo. I'm happy for you.   You know?   I don't want this cast. I can't help it.  

[02:27:37] Unknown:

Yeah. I just wanna see how some of them that thought they were just, you know, the cat's meow   and that they were gonna do, you know, be   change the world and you know?  

[02:27:52] Duuude-Ron :

Well, dude, everybody has those dreams.  

[02:27:54] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Everybody  

[02:27:56] Duuude-Ron :

everybody does. We did. Well,  

[02:27:58] Rich Chelson:

maybe not us, but I did. Yeah. I figured I was gonna shape I I figured I was gonna rock the world to its core.   Yeah. Not so much.  

[02:28:07] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Not so much. Yeah. I I I yeah. I agree. You know? Not so much.   But You know? But just   and some of them that were in that upper class just to see   how their life   progressed,   if they're still   in that, or did they   have to come down   off their high horse?  

[02:28:37] Rich Chelson:

Well, that was just kinda bad about our, about my class.   Is there wasn't we really weren't anybody who was better than I mean, we had our little group. We had the preps,   which   we were all friends with the preps, which were basically in our group, it was two guys. It was Kyle Barber and and Ryan Ryan Rausser.   They were kinda known as our preppies.   We had the kickers, and and we had the jocks, which, honestly, all of us were in the jock club,   but we are also all band geeks.   Your what? We were all band geeks.  

[02:29:14] Unknown:

Oh, band. Band geeks. So Band. Yeah. Okay. So how how many were in your graduating class, Brian? Forty two.   Forty two.  

[02:29:24] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[02:29:25] Duuude-Ron :

And Rich's how many were yours? A hundred and something 20. Hundred and 20. Hundred and 20. Or a 25,   something like that.  

[02:29:33] Unknown:

And mine was over 1,200.  

[02:29:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I couldn't even fathom that. Yeah. I mean, that's  

[02:29:41] Rich Chelson:

that was almost the size of my town.  

[02:29:45] Unknown:

Right. Well, that's just one that's just one of five high schools   in my town when growing up. But, you know, Lincoln was   quarter of a quarter of town. Yeah. It's a good size. Yeah. Quarter it's over a quarter of a million.  

[02:30:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That was, I mean, that was close to being like Amarillo whenever we graduated,   from high school. Amarillo,   independent school district, see, there was   yeah. What the hell?  

[02:30:16] Unknown:

I don't know. What the hell?  

[02:30:19] Rich Chelson:

Think I've got a little touch of stray,  

[02:30:27] Unknown:

stray, like, supposed to be going somewhere.  

[02:30:30] Rich Chelson:

Didn't hurt much, but, damn,   that had a little bite to it.  

[02:30:38] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you're awake. That's for damn good reason. Yeah.  

[02:30:43] Rich Chelson:

No. It's just that my I my arm touched the refrigerator, and all of a sudden, my phone on my leg was was was, was hurting. And I was, like, going, wow. That was something. Yeah. Okay.   So   but,   but, I mean, I see there was Emerald High, Tascosa,   there's Randall, Caprock,   and,   oh, shit. What was the fifth one?   There what's the fifth one?  

[02:31:14] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Here   here was here's mine. This is how original Lincoln was. You had Lincoln High,   Northeast,   Southeast,   East,   and Pius X.  

[02:31:28] Rich Chelson:

Pius X of all things.  

[02:31:31] Unknown:

Because well, that was the Catholic high school. Oh, okay.   But, yeah, it's so original.   Northeast,   East, Southeast,   and Lincoln Eye. And Lincoln Eye was in Downtown Lincoln.  

[02:31:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. See, up there up there in Nebraska and Iowa, they   they don't have much,   much   ability to   yeah.   I can't remember what the physical is. Much personality up there,   you know, or or yeah.   What you said, dude.  

[02:32:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:32:08] Duuude-Ron :

Now now now I will say I will say   my first wife, her her brother   graduated from,   Lakewood High School, I think, in Lakewood, Colorado,   went to his graduation,   and his graduating   class   was three over 3,000.  

[02:32:31] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:32:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We stood we stayed there long enough to see him graduate,   and we got the hell out.  

[02:32:41] Unknown:

Yeah. And if you had a family that had   the last name that started with a z,   yeah, you you were screwed.  

[02:32:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. I wouldn't  

[02:32:51] Duuude-Ron :

I wouldn't show up until until they was at least in yeses.  

[02:32:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Exactly.   Exactly.  

[02:32:59] Duuude-Ron :

And then and then I'd even think about it because   his last name started with an m, and that was   shoot.   See.   I I forget exactly when they started, but we waited an extra hour, hour and a half before we went in.   And then saw him graduate and then walked right out   because,   they weren't gonna be done anytime soon.   Yeah. So   so, yeah, I was like, yeah. No.   Yeah. I mean, yeah, that was rough, man.   You know, my that was rough.  

[02:33:36] Unknown:

Yep.   What were you what were you saying, Brian?  

[02:33:41] Rich Chelson:

I don't remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That it just dribbled right out of the air.   Yep. Oh, man. Kinda oozed out. Yep. Need a need a catch basin or something to catch it, dude. I've been looking for corks that are that'll fit, but you know? Well, you know, I can I can wiggle it? Corks are just a little too big. You know? Well, you know, little sandpaper. Of course, that is what she said. So  

[02:34:08] Unknown:

Yeah. Shit. Getting deeper out here.  

[02:34:13] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, shoot.   Yeah. No. It's just it's just crazy what what we've, you know, gone through. Oh, yeah. You know?   And, yeah, our lives are   not anywhere near what we thought they were gonna be.  

[02:34:28] Unknown:

Nope.   You know? Not even close.  

[02:34:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's   oh, I did I did I   I was I was looking at a video on YouTube,   or was it YouTube or   no. It was on Facebook, actually, I think. But it was from YouTube. You know?   And,   or I can't remember. Anyway, I was watching the video,   and,   there   there had been a couple updates,   say it to my drone.   And it's Okay.   And I saw the video, and I was like, you know, damn.   Probably ought to update my drone. It's been a while   because I hadn't flown my drone much   here lately because it's been cold.  

[02:35:21] Unknown:

That's why. Mama.   Yeah. Oh, mama. I don't. No. But anyway Just put put on your big girl pants and get your man giant pad.   But, anyway, updates updates of your drone. What do you do? Just hook it into the computer and it updates the the drone?  

[02:35:40] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. No. I do it I do it all through the controller,   because,   with this,   Mini four Pro, I got the,   RC two controller that has the,   display in the controller,   and so it all does it. It, updates the controller,   updates the drone,   which is cool. Oh,  

[02:36:02] Unknown:

okay.  

[02:36:03] Duuude-Ron :

And so   and   I did that, and   there's actually a couple updates.   And I was like, oh, shit. This is cool. Because it kinda changed the layout, and it and it added more features   that it didn't have before.   Uh-huh. I was like I was like, yeah. I probably ought to pull that out and think about playing with that again.   I hadn't done much with my drone.  

[02:36:31] Rich Chelson:

And if I'm remembering right, somebody was saying something along the lines that,   they,   DGI,   went through and turned off the,   the the fencing   of the unrestricted airspace.  

[02:36:49] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm. Yes. I did.   So It is all it is now all  

[02:36:55] Rich Chelson:

all All up to you to control where you go.  

[02:36:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Now now on the app, though, I will tell you on the app,   it it does show,   shaded areas,   and it says,   enhanced warnings.   So so,   basically, it's saying, you might wanna check the rules here, dude, because you might not be able to fly.   You know? But yeah.   You you and it was funny when, DJI did that. They were   saying that   they didn't turn it off because, you know, congress was trying to fuck with them. You know? They said, oh, no. We, you know, we didn't do that. For that reason, I'm thinking, yeah. Bullshit. You did. Which rightfully so. I would have too. Screw you. You know?   You wanna shut us down, then we're just gonna let   everybody fly   however they want. What they want. Exactly. We're not responsible for it. And, no, DJI should not be responsible for that. It is up to the pilot   to,   know the rules and laws.  



[02:38:03] Unknown:

And so Well, see, now you can now you can take your drone and, you know, take a drive over to Groom Lake and,   you know, fly your drone.  

[02:38:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But if it's restricted,   no. I ain't gonna do that.   Just because   people will call in on you.   Well, I thought this was a no flying zone.   And then you'll get a call from the FAA   because the FAA has your information.   But   so so yeah. No. You're right. DJI did that, and, I flew my drone,   some yesterday   and   checking out the new features and and the new look of the screen and all like that. And,   with this newer controller, I can look other places   even though I'm not there on the map.   And yeah. Because, like, just north of me,   if I go into Moss Point, it's it's got warnings.  

It's got enhanced warnings.   I ain't looked at them yet or nothing, but   and there's a a   reason why I think   I would have to look on the big side. I think there's an airport up there,   So that's why there's the enhanced warnings.   But, yeah, I saw that, and I'm like, that's cool.   And they made   and saying they made some,   changes and all like that. So I'm probably gonna have to play with that   because   I mean, it's supposed to rain next week, but   so as soon as it doesn't   rain a lot, I I am taking my top off   on the Jeep. On the Jeep, guys.   On the Jeep.  

Yeah. I was sitting there thinking, I'm like, shit. I better I better clarify because I know you too.  

[02:40:03] Unknown:

Well, I knew what you were saying.   But I   own a Jeep, so   but I'm not gonna take my top off.  

[02:40:14] Duuude-Ron :

Well, see, I've got that fancy dancy little   top hanger.   And Well,  

[02:40:21] Unknown:

yeah. And then that makes it awfully convenient.   Yes. It does.  

[02:40:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. It does.   And it makes it so much easier.   It takes no time at all.  

[02:40:37] Unknown:

Yeah. I bet. I'm sure   without a doubt.  

[02:40:42] Duuude-Ron :

On Amazon, dude.   On Amazon, it's cheap.  

[02:40:48] Unknown:

Well and I got too much shit in my Jeep that could get stolen  

[02:40:54] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:40:55] Unknown:

That I can't put in my lockbox   or my toolbox or   whatever you wanna call it, that huge box back of the Jeep.  

[02:41:07] Duuude-Ron :

You could find a way to stuff it in there, dude. Just fold it up.  

[02:41:14] Unknown:

No. Well, it's a little hard to fold up the,   the air compressor.   The one like you have?  

[02:41:25] Duuude-Ron :

Which one like I have?  

[02:41:28] Unknown:

Ain't got one. The little air compressor.   Yeah. You do. That's it. It's hooked up to the battery.  

[02:41:35] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that air compressor for your your Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That way. Yeah. I got that one still.  

[02:41:41] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I got one of those, but I can't fit it inside the box. I got too much shit in the box. Oh, well, take some of the shit out.  

[02:41:50] Duuude-Ron :

I thought you had that big old pancake one.  

[02:41:54] Unknown:

No. Not anymore.   The the motor the motor finally went out on that one, so I bought one that is very similar to your what you have.   Okay.  

[02:42:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:42:08] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   That's just rude, man, that the motor went out.  

[02:42:13] Unknown:

I know.  

[02:42:15] Duuude-Ron :

That's just, like, totally rude.  

[02:42:17] Unknown:

It is. It was.  

[02:42:20] Duuude-Ron :

I don't doubt it. Yep.  

[02:42:22] Unknown:

So now I have my 20 pound fire extinguisher in the same bracket.  

[02:42:27] Duuude-Ron :

20 pounds? What you need 20 pounds for, dude?  

[02:42:30] Unknown:

Because I got it for free.   Oh, okay. Alright. And and it's fully charged.  

[02:42:36] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Alright.   I was just wondering because, I mean, I I think, shit, 20 pound fire extinguisher for a Jeep. Shit. You could extinguish your Jeep and a couple more cars.  

[02:42:48] Unknown:

Yep. You're right. I've I'm sure I very well could, but, yeah, we could not.   For whatever reason,   it couldn't get recertified   where I work at. So   they had to   Yeah. I don't know what happened, but it's still fully charged. And,   you know,   if   I come into circumstances,   I have a 20 pound fire extinguisher in my Jeep.  

[02:43:19] Duuude-Ron :

By god, you could stop a wildfire from starting with that, bitch.   Oh, yeah, dude.   Well, let's hope you don't have to try it, but, you know, just know that you possibly can do it.  

[02:43:35] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I got   plenty of I got a good arsenal of a fire extinguisher. That's for sure.  

[02:43:43] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Well, is it an ABC?  

[02:43:47] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:43:48] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hell yeah. That's even better.  

[02:43:51] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:43:54] Duuude-Ron :

That's even better. I don't care who you are. Yep.  

[02:44:01] Unknown:

As a matter of fact, I got two because we had four of them that couldn't get recertified   but are still fully charged. So I got two of them.  

[02:44:10] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you got the other one in your house?  

[02:44:14] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:44:15] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:44:18] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:44:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's cool, man.   Shoot. I ain't even got one. I need to get one.  

[02:44:27] Unknown:

Yeah. You definitely need to get one   for the Jeep and for the house.  

[02:44:32] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.   I got smoke alarms, man.   I know they don't fix everything.  

[02:44:39] Unknown:

The smoke alarm is not going to put out the fire.   I'm sorry to say.  

[02:44:45] Duuude-Ron :

It just dang it.  

[02:44:50] Unknown:

That's just wrong. And waiting and waiting for the fire department, just watching your house burn, no.   Let's try and get let's try and get that extinguishing before it gets that damn far.  

[02:45:03] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[02:45:06] Unknown:

That would   really suck.  

[02:45:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. That would. I mean, I'd I do have insurance, but,   yeah, that would still really suck.  

[02:45:16] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:45:20] Duuude-Ron :

That would, yeah, that would be, like, totally rude.  

[02:45:24] Unknown:

Oh,   totally   rude.  

[02:45:26] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. Because, yeah, if everything burnt shit, I would have to,   Yeah. I couldn't function, man.   It it would be a little hard to edit my podcast on my phone or or edit this podcast on on the phone.   I could probably do it, but it would be rough.  

[02:45:50] Unknown:

I'm sure it would be. Even even being rough on the tablet too.  

[02:45:57] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:45:59] Unknown:

Well but if it ever happens, just make sure you grab that book with all your freaking military shit in it.  

[02:46:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That   I need to grab the CD because all of my records are   are are on a CD.  

[02:46:18] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Yeah. No. Like mine, I have, like, all my awards and so on like that.   I got those   I got three   one inch three ring binders that I have all my military documentation.   I still have all my NCOERs,   everything.   I'd have to grab that bag.  

[02:46:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See, that's where that's where when   when I got my, two zero one file,   it,   it all came on a CD.   I got Okay. I got my two zero one file, my,   my,   disability claims,   my, records from the VA's,   you know, doctor's appointment, shit like that.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's over 1,600   pages   of documents. I dating all the way back to the year before I went in when I signed   on the line for the delayed entry program.  

[02:47:22] Unknown:

Oh, yeah? Yeah. I did the same thing.  

[02:47:25] Duuude-Ron :

It even has that piece of paper.  

[02:47:28] Unknown:

Oh, yeah? Yep. Yeah. I did delayed entry for ten months.  

[02:47:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I did it for a year.   I was a junior. Yeah. I was a junior.   I knew where I was going. I'm like, fuck this. I'm out.  

[02:47:44] Unknown:

Get the hell out of this little town.  

[02:47:46] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[02:47:47] Unknown:

Yeah.   That's exactly right. See the big and go see the big big wide world   and get stationed in Korea.  

[02:47:57] Duuude-Ron :

And I should've stayed home.   Because, yeah, it was scary.   You know, that's that's something else no one no one, really,   prepares their child for.   You know? And that's   moving or leaving   leaving home.   And you see in well, now it's I think it's different in the military, but back when I was in,   it,   yeah.   You didn't   get to call, but,   like, once every couple weeks, and that was if everybody was good in in the platoon,   you know, during basic and shit.   Yeah. Yeah. You didn't get to,   yeah, call home every day or anything like that.  

[02:48:55] Unknown:

I think I called home   once a week,   I think.   Fuck. I don't remember.  

[02:49:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I don't I don't think I don't think we got that. I think   well well, when we got there, we called, told them we got there.   That was that thirty second call you left.   And then,   I think our first time calling home after that was two or three weeks later,   and then it it it was, like, every two weeks. So, yeah, we didn't   even get that option.  

[02:49:29] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, I do remember the one thing I do remember from basic training   is   right before graduation,   the   all the trainees could imitate   the drill ins, the drill sergeants.   Mhmm. And we and we had one guy, and one of my drill sergeants was,   Hawaiian.   And he had it was he had a flat face.   I mean, it looked like somebody had taken and hit him in the face with a two by eight.   Yep. And when he and when he and when the my drill sergeant, Canuela,   was his last name,   would talk. He would get little spit pockets on the on the corners of his mouth. Right?   Mhmm. And and Jensen,   when he imitated   drill sergeant Canuela,   he got those same spit pockets.  

And the drill sergeant   I tell you what, they were fucking rolling to include Canyuella.   He was laughing so fucking hard, he fell off his goddamn fucking seat.   And   he   what was it? It was in the eighty second that Kenuella   became my brigade,   sir major.  

[02:50:53] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow.  

[02:50:54] Unknown:

Yeah.   That's crazy. Yeah. No. We yeah. But we I think we got to call   once a week, if I'm not mistaken.   But, again,   that's been shit. 30   almost   let's see. Twenty, thirty,   five.   Oh, shit. My high school reunion   next year is forty years, so it's been thirty nine years   since I went through basic training.  

[02:51:40] Duuude-Ron :

Let's see. It's,   well, it's been thirty   well, I'm two years shy of 40, so it's 38 for me.   So  

[02:52:00] Unknown:

Damn. We're old.  

[02:52:01] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right. Brian, how about you?   You've been on my Yep. Over there trying not to say anything. You  

[02:52:10] Unknown:

know, sitting over  

[02:52:11] Rich Chelson:

sitting over in the corner with the dunce cap on. Well, I've been looking I'm trying to look at different things on   so in case we ran out ran across a   a dead zone in in talking. So  

[02:52:25] Unknown:

Well, write down those so we don't have any dead zones next week.   And if you write them down, I'm sure you're probably gonna forget where you put  

[02:52:36] Rich Chelson:

put the piece of paperwork that you wrote everything down. I've got it all. I've I put it all on our on our spreadsheet and,   over on Google Sheets.  

[02:52:46] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:52:48] Duuude-Ron :

Hey,   so how long has it been since you went into basic, Duke, Brian?  

[02:52:56] Rich Chelson:

I went into basic in '96.  

[02:52:59] Duuude-Ron :

Ninety '6? Yep.   You're fixing to hit thirty.  

[02:53:04] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[02:53:05] Duuude-Ron :

That's crazy.  

[02:53:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Actually, it is. It's it's pretty damn wild.   It's been thirty years.  

[02:53:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Thirty years since you went into basic training. That's Yep. Crazy.  

[02:53:19] Rich Chelson:

Dumb, stupid little kid.  

[02:53:22] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:53:23] Unknown:

Yeah. So weren't we all? Weren't we all?  

[02:53:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:53:29] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, I know. It was at at the same time, I mean, I don't know. Do y'all   what were y'all's thoughts on basic training?  

[02:53:41] Duuude-Ron :

Once I got over the initial shock.  

[02:53:45] Rich Chelson:

Was it kinda fun? Yeah. I kinda enjoyed it, to be honest. Yes. I did all here. I mean, it was just for all these things. I remember there was one guy who we called, Dozer,   and, I remember him first showing up or   showing up in our in our barracks. We got, as that night as we're getting set up, he was   all wanting to he's like, well, when we're gonna start doing PT, I'm all I'm all ready. Let's get this going, blah blah blah blah blah. And, you know,   it's hey. I just trying to trying to show show big because about three days after after that,   I forget what happened, but, anyhow, they decided it was time to time to really get us broke in   broke in pretty good, smoke us, something fierce.  

And, boy, he was crying and a even in a calling and a boo hooing and a I don't I can't do this. I can't.   And everybody there was like,   dude, you were ready to go just two days ago. What's going on now? And, so, yeah, it was and like I said, I've talked I've I've talked a little bit about, boot camp. We had Bam Bam.   I don't know what the guy's actual name was, but he did. He looked like just like Bam Bam   from the Flintstones.   And, I mean, it was just it was,   it was the time that I I realized that, yeah, I've got a little bit of face blindness   because, boy, they took the hair off of everybody, and everybody   looked the same. I've   I had to look at name tags to go, oh, okay. You're Mansfield. Alright. I I I I I and then I'm supposed to be falling behind you.  



[02:55:27] Duuude-Ron :

So   Right. And so   And then Let's   let's let's say we're, you you know,   another nationality  

[02:55:36] Rich Chelson:

or another color, then Oh, yeah. You know, it was a little easier to talk about. Then, just as, just to sound racist,   then the they all look the same.   Well, true. So, I mean, all of a sudden, all the black folks were looking the same. All the Filipinos were looking the same, and it was like,   holy crap. And I I get, you know, we all they want us to all look   the same, so we start acting as as a unified,   cohesive,   group.   Right. Yeah. And and, yeah, it it does the job. And, I mean, you know, it we we all did, went through all the same experiences all the same time, and   we had our sister division,   who was in the,   in the   the barracks right above us, and, you know,   it's amazing.  

You know? Six weeks in without seeing nothing but a bunch of bunch of dudes, and all of a sudden, you have a group of girls show in show up, and they're most   average looking girls. But at the same time, it's like, hey.   How you doing? Kinda cute.   You're   like you're like, what the hell? What's going on here? Because you've gotta you you knew they were kinda they were basically   basically just the average looking girls.   You know, they weren't,  

[02:56:56] Duuude-Ron :

you know,  

[02:56:57] Rich Chelson:

super supermodel   by any stretch of the imagination.   You didn't get that. Time, you got after after about six weeks of hanging around a whole bunch of dudes, even the even the average ones were looking really damn good.   So Yeah.  

[02:57:11] Duuude-Ron :

Well, see, when when,   when I was in basic,   we, you know, we had four platoons   of guys, and the girls were way over on the other side,   past the chow hall and all like that, and they never   we never commingled   ever. Oh.   Yeah. No. They were they were on the other side. In fact,   when we would get to go to the PX, which was, I think   I think, maybe once a week, once every two weeks,   we saw girls in. But, yeah, other than that,   once in a while, we would catch,   you know, a platoon marching or something.   Right.   And even though it was, you know,   300 yards off,   we were eyeballing them.  



[02:57:59] Rich Chelson:

All of a sudden, you had bib binocular vision for sure. You were sitting right on in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know? But but yeah. We yeah. We never met him.  

[02:58:09] Duuude-Ron :

You know? And Uh-huh.   Never met none of them. Oh, yeah. The army was   well well well, my basic training was   was that way just because it was they was still training   the old, infantry way   Okay. Or Jackson. So, yeah, they were like, uh-uh. You don't get to mess with none of them women.  

[02:58:30] Rich Chelson:

You see them over there? Those are off limits.   Do not touch. Do not look. Don't look. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Turn your head. Turn your head. Look someplace else. Right? Yeah. MC Forest Hill  

[02:58:43] Unknown:

had   zero   females,   period.  

[02:58:49] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really?  

[02:58:50] Unknown:

Yeah.   Fort Sill is an artillery base.  

[02:58:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Okay.  

[02:58:57] Unknown:

Yeah. There were no females   at Farsil in basic training.  

[02:59:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So so, yeah, dude and I were were were deprived   of   seeing other female recruits.   Now once we got out of there and got into AIT,   I was a little different.  

[02:59:19] Unknown:

Right. Nope. Nope.  

[02:59:21] Rich Chelson:

Not in Fort Sill. Not dude. Yeah.  

[02:59:24] Unknown:

Not me.   No.  

[02:59:28] Rich Chelson:

Dude, he was kept in in,   in a purely isolation for even longer.  

[02:59:34] Unknown:

Right? That's right. Yeah.  

[02:59:36] Duuude-Ron :

Dude was in a sausage fest for, what, eight weeks, ten weeks, sixteen weeks?  

[02:59:42] Unknown:

I see. Basic training was six weeks   or eight weeks.   AIT was   ten weeks,   and then jump school was three weeks.  

[02:59:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, shit. So, yeah, you was almost six months in.  

[03:00:00] Unknown:

Yep. And   then RIPP, ranger and doctorate program,   which I didn't pass that.   So I was in RIP for two weeks out of the four weeks   for RIP.   And then   first duty   for first duty station was   first of three nineteenth field artillery in the eighty second.  

[03:00:27] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[03:00:34] Unknown:

And that's been   almost forty years.   Next year will be forty years.   So   we're hitting on 10:00, Brian.  

[03:00:48] Rich Chelson:

Hey. We're right at 10:00. So, yeah, it is about time to go on ahead and say   thank you all very much for taking the time to listen listen to us, come together, and see what what in the world we are talking about today. And as you can see, we were talking, a little bit about anything and everything and all things. And so   and that's just what we do. That's kind of what this show is about. It's just how   gives us an opportunity as three friends to be able to get together, talk it out, and just have a good time of just   shooting the shit and whatever it is we're wanting to talk about. And   then there are,   then there are times where we actually have an agenda. We wanna talk about that particular topics, and so we do that.  

But it's all it's all about   the ability   to get together   and spend intentional time with each other.   And, yeah, we're all, you know, well over a hundred miles away from each other. So getting together in the same room is   a little tough.   And especially since I'm driving all over the countryside and and stuff, and Ron's down in Central Texas, and and Rich is over in in,   Mississippi. Oh, he reminds me, hey, Rich.  

[03:02:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[03:02:08] Rich Chelson:

You know what you call a call a hippie's wife?  

[03:02:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I saw that, dude.  

[03:02:14] Rich Chelson:

Mississippi. Mississippi.   Mississippi. I saw that. Oh my god. That was fucking hilarious.  

[03:02:21] Duuude-Ron :

I laughed. I roared on that one.  

[03:02:25] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, I saw that. I was like, oh, hi, Rich. So yeah.  

[03:02:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, this  

[03:02:34] Unknown:

What? Waka waka waka.  

[03:02:36] Rich Chelson:

Waka waka.   So But, yeah, we, we try to have a good good time as we're we're talking. Sometimes we may get serious. Other times we may have some   deep discussion. Sometimes we'll act like we know exactly what we're talking about when in all reality, we're actually talking out of our ass.   So it's just how we like to,   like to have a discussion. If there's anything we said that you like to correct us on, you can send us an email.   I'm, [email protected],   and Rich is r chelson, that's chels0n,@gmail.com.   And if you're   if you're wanting to get a hold of of the dude, then you can also send that over to [email protected].  



[03:03:25] Duuude-Ron :

And Or [email protected]  

[03:03:29] Unknown:

or snail mail.  

[03:03:31] Rich Chelson:

Or yeah.   So   but but so we and let us know. You know? Hey. We're you think we're, we're right on the money, we're off the money, or or or we're just completely out of our out of our minds, whatever it is.  

[03:03:50] Unknown:

Out of money.  

[03:03:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You let us know. You can tell us you you can tell us what we got wrong or what we got right. Love to be able to hear from you. So if,   you have   one one of the things that we like to do about the show, though, is that we are a value for value show. That means that we do not do advertising. We don't have sponsors.   You are a sponsor. You wanna sponsor us? That's great. Sponsor us. We would love to have you   have, have you, sponsor the show. Help us be able to   make the financial,   means to get a, get a show   to continue because   it costs money to have a hosting,   a hosting site for the,   for the the the podcast files and   and all that. So it would be nice if we were able to, to   have the help to get the to get those, those fees taken care of. Moment, we're still good. We're all we're doing great being able to afford the, the   the the hosting fees and and, sort other assorted fees that may come off down the road. But, you know, maybe you wanna help as a means to say thank you. You provided this much value into our life.  

How much is that value? It's, completely up to you. But now value does come in three different forms. There is   time. So if you have   time to,   to go through and   edit chapter,   chapters for, for the podcast,   let us know. We'd love to have you come in and set up the chapters for our show.   Tie talent, if you are good at   graphic design, I'll we always use graphic design, but there's many other things maybe you're good at, doing,   doing website design or what doing websites themselves. You may wanna set up a website for us. Love to be able to have,   have your assistance in that.  

But that's your your talent. You can use your time, your talent. And then finally, there is the, fiduciary,   the the   fee means of of having money, which is, the treasure.   And so between the three of those,   you help us to be able to continue   doing the show.   We do it   out of the out of the love of being able to talk with with each other and give y'all the opportunity   to to listen in and see what what the role these three old guys talking about today.   And, you know, most of the time, it's not about much, but other times, you might again, it might be something some semi important or at least our thoughts on today's events,   with the with the little dash, get off my line.  

So   we always have those those those great moments.   And so, guys, again, thank you very much for for listening.   And, Rich, what do you have to say?  

[03:06:51] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, not too much. Just,   yeah, definitely wanna say thank you for listening, and   keep coming back.   Yeah. We've,   just a quick look. We've got almost 1,900 downloads   as of right now. I'm showing eighteen ninety two. So,   yeah, it's it's it's been great. You know?   We're not even at a year yet, and we've been doing all this and just and we just have fun at it.   You know,   and reach out to us. You know? You can always send Brian a lovely email at [email protected],   or send me an email, [email protected].   And the dude, send it to Brian again at [email protected].   And we'll be happy to I'll be glad  

[03:07:41] Rich Chelson:

to forward those on over to Rich.  

[03:07:46] Unknown:

But no. Just And then and then send them to the dude by snail mail. Snail mail. Exactly.  

[03:07:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Good. Yeah. There you go.   No. That's the thing. Just just reach out and, you know, tell us what you like or don't like or you know? Because like like Brian said,   we run the gamut,   you know,   when we talk, and it could   nothing's really off the table.   You know?   If we wanna talk about it, we talk about it. And this is why we love doing this because we don't have to play the rules game.   You know, with the podcasting two point o, we don't have sponsors.   You're our sponsor.   You know? We don't have, you know, sleep on   a, you know, on a comfy mattress or   or whatever or anything like that. You know? We can say what we want. So and   trust me, we really enjoy saying   saying what's on our mind.  



[03:08:46] Rich Chelson:

Absolutely.  

[03:08:47] Duuude-Ron :

But other than that, that's that's about all I got.   Dude,   what have you got?  

[03:08:55] Unknown:

Well,   you guys have pretty well covered everything.   However, I just wanna say, thank you very much for allowing us to go down   how many rabbit holes did we go down tonight.   Oh, probably about 2,000   and then a couple gopher holes after that. So, again, yes, we never know what we are going to talk about because   one thing leads into another, and   I'm glad that everybody that, has downloaded our   podcast has, you know, enjoyed   listening to us go down,   I don't know how many thousands of rabbit holes.  

[03:09:39] Rich Chelson:

We kids. We go down quite quite a few of them. Yes. We do. Hell, yeah. We have.   So, yeah, I keep trying to see. It's like, when are we actually gonna be able to maintain a discussion about a topic through at least an hour?   Dude, really, we've got we're we've gotten down to 17 toppings for one hour. So it it we're we're we're working our way down. So Oh my gosh. That's that's, like, awesome. But, I mean, yes.  

[03:10:12] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you see, that's the thing. You know, when I edit these and then and then,   go back and listen to them, you know, it's I I mean, I can hear where we start out on one subject   and then wind up, like,   all the way around the world and half again,  

[03:10:29] Rich Chelson:

and then we get back to the subject we started with. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we eventually about the end of the show, we're like, oh, and, yeah, by the way.  

[03:10:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You know, it's it's   right?   And it's and it's and it's and it's freaking hilarious.   But I don't know. Maybe one day, we'll we'll reach that goal for   that for that milestone.  

[03:10:52] Rich Chelson:

That milestone. So but, anyhow, alright. Well, guys, y'all take care. Thank y'all again. Everyone out there on in the audience land, thank y'all for listening.   And,   Rich, dude,   glad y'all were able to come on, talk again, and we will see y'all next week. Till then.   Bye.  

[03:11:13] Duuude-Ron :

Later.  

[03:11:15] Unknown:

Peace out.  

[03:11:17] Duuude-Ron :

Catch y'all later, guys. Alright, guys. See you later. Bye.   Bye.