Welcome to another engaging episode of "2 Grumpy Vets and a Dude," where Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude gather to discuss life, politics, and personal experiences. This week, we dive into the intricacies of living intentionally and the importance of weekly conversations among friends to help men become better men.
We kick off with a reflection on Matthew 7:3-5, discussing the importance of self-awareness before judging others. The conversation then shifts to the political climate, as Brian shares his encounter with a disheartened liberal, sparking a discussion on the current state of politics and the emotional responses it evokes.
Rich shares his recent experience of getting a new roof, highlighting the teamwork and efficiency of the crew, while also touching on the physical challenges he faced during the process. The episode takes a humorous turn as the hosts discuss the cultural differences in music and work ethic they observed.
The conversation then delves into personal reflections on life, happiness, and the pursuit of wealth. Ron opens up about his struggles with depression and the desire for a more fulfilling life, leading to a candid discussion on the barriers that hold us back from achieving our goals.
As the episode progresses, the hosts reminisce about their military experiences, sharing stories from their time in South Korea and Germany, and the unique cultural encounters they had. The episode wraps up with a light-hearted discussion on the challenges of rolling tarps in the rain and the camaraderie among truck drivers.
Join us for this insightful and entertaining episode as we navigate through various topics with humor, sincerity, and a touch of nostalgia.
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Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets and a dude. This is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sincere and our thoughts together to show folks that we're living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan, Rich, and the duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
I'm gonna bring that up. Matthew 7 verses 3 through 5. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, let me take the speck out of your eye when all the time there's a plank in your eye? You hypocrite. First, take out the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from brother's eye.
[00:01:07] Bryan Goodwin:
There he is. There's mister Brian. Yeah. I am here.
[00:01:13] Rich Chelson:
I have been educating the anybody who is listening, which I think is 0, but
[00:01:21] Duuude-Ron :
I have been
[00:01:22] Rich Chelson:
educating I I don't know myself, I guess. I don't I don't know. So
[00:01:31] Bryan Goodwin:
So what have you been educating the people on?
[00:01:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, I think I met my first brokenhearted liberal today.
[00:01:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Good. Because that was one of the things I was hoping we get to talk about is all of the, the the disheartenment that is, that is happening across the, this glorious nation of ours. So Well, well, see And I and I know we're not supposed to talk about politics, but I think we're gonna break the rule that make an exception for for this show, for this episode.
[00:02:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, at least at least part of it. You know, maybe not all of it. Oh, no. Not all of it. No. It But but no. The reason well, I'll just wait I'll just wait till we get going because, yeah, it was it was it was it I mean, honestly, it just happened about, about 40, 45 minutes ago. So Oh, okay. Yeah. So so, yeah, it was actually actually pretty cool. So, I mean, I I'm not a 100% sure, but I'm probably 95% sure just the way everything went. And and we can talk about it when we get going because Yes. Dude, it was I would and that's the thing. You know?
I had never experienced it. So it was it was it was actually all kind of weird for for all of about a minute, and then it's like, oh, okay. So but, what you've been up to?
[00:03:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, not a much. Just had a really uneventful day today. I they don't have any, didn't have any loads available, so I got sat over in Chickas J all day today. So Oh, okay. Okay. Well I was hoping I was gonna get, like, 2 loads today, but nope. No love today.
[00:03:29] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:03:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, and the rain just finally hit.
[00:03:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, look at it this way. You ain't gotta throw a tarp.
[00:03:39] Bryan Goodwin:
I I will tomorrow. Yeah. But it's not but it's not Well, actually, I won't have to throw a tarp. I'll get I have to un I'll have to roll a tarp. I just hope I don't have to roll a tarp like I did Tuesday. Why? Well, we'll we'll we'll talk about talk about let's see if we can get Ron to jump on. He said he's gonna be might be a little late. So Yeah. No. I know. I know. We might we'll wait another 10 minutes, and then we'll go ahead and really, go ahead and crank on the show and and let Ron jump in when he gets in.
[00:04:11] Rich Chelson:
That's fine. That's fine. But Yeah. No. It's Window 10:15. I you you know, dude, I I learned something over the past 2 days. I I, well, one, it's it was an expensive 2 fucking days, you know, spending $10,000 a day, kinda just get you restored. Okay? But I've got a brand new freaking roof. Already that fast. That fast. Yeah. And in fact, yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm talking total tear off. They didn't have to replace any sheeting, and, I found, the front part of my house where the living room and the 2 bedrooms are at and, where the bathroom is at, that's the original, 1 by material slats.
Okay? 1 by 6. Yeah. It's original 1950. And
[00:05:11] Bryan Goodwin:
So that's back when 1 1 inch was 1 inch and not a 3 quarter inch.
[00:05:17] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Right. And and this this, back part where where the, you know, where I podcast and ham radio at my dining room, I have a feeling it was damaged over the 75 years. And, it it, you know, it had been rebuilt and put back together because on the back here, they used OSB. Oh. Yeah. So so and and so so, actually, this was kinda cool because and and, actually, I'm glad I went with the full replacement instead of just the, just a rescrew because there was, places not many, mind you. My roof overall was in really, really good shape. But there was a few areas that had rotted out, stuff like that, and they were able to fix it with the wood we had taken off so I didn't have to spend any more money.
All good. Right. But but yeah. And and, you know, it was funny because, Chad was a project manager. Great guy. I mean, awesome. I love the guy. He's great, man. But the crew he brought down, they're from Mexico. And, the girl Marcella, basically was their boss even though Chad was the boss over everything. Right?
[00:06:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. But,
[00:06:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I found out I got to talking to Marcella, and she's a real nice lady. Just really nice lady. And I'm just they had made it on pretty quick.
[00:07:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[00:07:11] Rich Chelson:
But but, anyway, you know, these guys and, I mean, there were, like, 5 of them and shit. 1 guy brought his wife. And everybody just got in, worked together. They were happy. And believe it or not, the Mexican music they played wasn't horrible. You know? It wasn't the, the the don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't. No. No. It was not. It was not the hardcore mariachi. Mariachi. It was it was it was actual music. Now I couldn't understand a word they were singing about, but I could hear actual singing.
Oh, yeah. Okay. And I was like, wow. This I mean, I don't know what they're saying, but you know what?
[00:08:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Got a good it's got a good beat. You could dance to it. Right. Right. And, I mean and and some of it
[00:08:13] Rich Chelson:
and most of it wasn't even fast. It was it was just smooth. Right. It was just and I was just like, okay. Y'all can play this all day long and not give any damn. You know? Precisely. And and, I mean, it was just it was just great to sit back and watch people work together. I mean, literally as a team, whether they were on the roof or on the ground picking up, they kept everything picked up, made sure everything was picked up around the house and dumped and tossed and thrown away. I mean, it was like they were never here. That's awesome. I was like I was like I mean, yeah, it was expensive. I ain't gonna lie, but I ain't gotta worry about a roof for about 20, 25. 20 years? Yeah. You know, so it's like, alright. I can live with that.
You know? So so, yeah, it was it was but the main thing I learned about all this, I cannot stand for any length of time. Oh my god. Oh, god dang. I'm telling you. I felt I felt more pain than I could shake a stick at. Oh, hell. Really? Oh, god dang. Yeah. Standing there talking with Chad, you know, you know, watching these people work and stuff. And, I mean, we'd talk and you know, the first day, we was talking about the election Right. You know, the night before. And I oh god. I think I stood there, like, an hour and a half, 2 hours. Oh, shit. It felt like someone just ran 2 needles in my hips and just stuck them right in my bones.
Yeah. And, so I sat down for a while. I mean, a while. Right. And, didn't do anything. And then, then I got up and stood some more, which I probably shouldn't have done, but I did anyway. Because I, you know, I was I was I was enjoying talking to Chad. You know? Yeah. And and just watching everything going on and everything. So so, yeah, I learned I learned really quick that, yes, I can stand at a concert,
[00:10:33] Bryan Goodwin:
but it is not advisable. You're gonna you're gonna pay for it the following day.
[00:10:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. And then I did it again today. Not as bad. I sat more today than I did yesterday. And, yeah, I'm I'm probably gonna be down because because because when I had to get on my roof the other night, my shoulder is still screaming over that one. Really? Wow. Oh, fuck, dude. It's yeah. It's I can't I can't hardly lift my left arm right now. Damn it. Yeah. No. It's no. It's it's it's straight up. It's it's just straight up. Just feels like a see, a straight needle in the bone No. Is what it feels like.
[00:11:26] Bryan Goodwin:
So so how's the dude doing?
[00:11:29] Duuude-Ron :
Dude. Day number 1,325.
[00:11:35] Rich Chelson:
No. It's 9 1,924, dude. You said 1,923 yesterday. I may be old, but I'm not that you know? I'm not I'm not Joe Biden's senile. Okay? Oh, shit. Did I go there?
[00:11:52] Bryan Goodwin:
You did. You did. We're gonna.
[00:11:58] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, y'all y'all look alike, though.
[00:12:04] Rich Chelson:
Oh, damn. That was a good one. Nice try there, hoss. I'm a whole lot better looking than Joe Biden ever thought of being. Whole lot smarter too.
[00:12:15] Duuude-Ron :
I think there's about 99.2% of, the population in our nation. Fucking smarter than that individual.
[00:12:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Well, yeah. Except for the guy who said he's gonna leave America, but and and by going moving to, to to Hawaii. Gotta love our education system, don't you?
[00:12:43] Duuude-Ron :
You know Oh my god. You know, it's like all these, the last time that Trump was elected. Yeah. All these celebrities, if Trump gets elected, I'm leaving the country. Oh, they were saying that this this election season. Well, yeah. But they they never left. And then they repeat it for this election season, and then he gets reelected. It's like, how else can we, invite you to leave? Just Mhmm. Right. Don't go away mad. Just go away. Go away. You know? Or shut the fuck up. Right. You know? Stop, you know, stop whining. Well, I was So I'm sorry that sorry that, you know, Trump has, for the populist vote, 5,000,000 more than what Harris had. And how she even had that fucking many with amount without them being bought amazes me. But, of course, you know, there are die hard Democrats just like there's die hard Republicans.
[00:14:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. But but Yeah. Now, actually and and this might piss off someone if they listen to this, but this is a true statement. And and and it goes for both sides, not just one or the other. But all votes are are bought one way or another. Okay. Whether whether it's through, I mean, shit, freaking anything, selling merchandise. All votes are bought. People donating a dollar. Guess what? Their vote was just bought.
[00:14:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See, I I don't I don't donate anything. No. Thank you.
[00:14:47] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Same here. And, you know, that's the thing. I mean, see, that's where that's where I don't buy no no no anything that says anything about any candidate. Never have, never will because I don't believe in that because it's like, these people have 1,000,000 of dollars of taxpayer money. The government spends 1,000,000,000 of dollars of taxpayer money. So why do I wanna give my money freely to someone who's gonna spend it however they want? That's gonna take money out of my pocket to spend how Richard wants. Yep. That's why I won't buy any memorabilia or anything like that of any candidate whatsoever.
And and just in case anybody's wondering, I'm fucking Republican. I don't care. I'll tell you.
[00:15:49] Duuude-Ron :
Well, and guess what? So am I. And the only way that I would wear a MAGA hat or what does it make? Yeah. MAGA hat is if it's given to me. You're exactly right. I am not going to fucking buy a MAGA hat, a MAGA shirt. Nothing. Exactly. You know?
[00:16:16] Rich Chelson:
Because the way I see it, the freaking government gets gets enough of my money. Why do I wanna give it to a, the, republicans or democrats with, you know, because you never know. I might be on a bad day and be thinking Aileen I you know, Aileen democrat. But, you know, it's like it's like they're full of rich folks. Let them spend their money. They have they have, celebrities donating, you know, $150,000, $200,000. You know? Yep. Because
[00:16:55] Duuude-Ron :
because their, financial advisors say, well, it'll benefit you to donate a $150,000 because you'll get a $200,000 tax write off.
[00:17:07] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Definitely. Not quite. Okay. Well, I mean okay. Dude, we're not going for actual numbers here. As as the it's it's it's more of the,
[00:17:23] Bryan Goodwin:
well, I know it's the aim at sentiment part of it, the spirit of what what is being said, but most of the time, political donations, one, they can't just use it for any thing that they want. It has to be used for the election. So when you give money to that's the that's the big thing everybody was throwing a fit about whenever Biden gave his election fund to Kamala because everybody donated their money to the Biden Harris, not the Harris walls. Right. Yeah. And so there there are rules and laws against that. You can't just go, okay, well, thank you for the money. I'm gonna do this with it. No, they gave you the money for the specific reason.
And a lot of folks, they, you know, it's kinda like, Ted Cruz. I mean, granted Ted Cruz won, won his elect reelection and won it even though the opposing side spent 10 times the amount of money trying to get him do, deposed. Yeah. It's not gonna get used all the time. And if they gave it to a, say a, to the, the democratic national convention, then they're going to take that money and they're going to spend it for helping the Democrat national convention out.
[00:18:51] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. No. I get this. I I get everything you're saying. I understand what you're saying. The only thing is is how honest do you think either side is?
[00:19:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I mean, they're as honest as, as you believe they are.
[00:19:09] Rich Chelson:
Well, true
[00:19:10] Bryan Goodwin:
that, I mean, no, you're right. I, I, I can't and won't argue that point. Because I mean, you talk to anybody on, on the, on the left, side of the aisle and they would think Trump is the most dishonest, evil, vile, destructive being around. Oh, I And you talk to anybody on the left, on the right hand side, and they think Kamala was one of the most dumbest, ignorant, most played just using her using the situation for an opportunity of maybe she can get herself, ahead just a little bit more. Well, that's that actually is sounds more truthful of what happened. But that's what we think. But the if you were to talk to the folks over on the other side, they would go, no. No. She's just wanting to help women become better. No. No. That she could care less about women. No. That's just that's beside the point. True. True. But but see, the thing is, though, as president,
[00:20:08] Rich Chelson:
you can't just worry about 1, one demographic.
[00:20:13] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I agree. Yeah. I agree you can't, but
[00:20:16] Rich Chelson:
You've got so many demographics at once. You can't pick 1 and just focus on that.
[00:20:23] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You've got several that you have to focus on. And so that's why you kinda you go and you talk to the to the Latino population, which voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, when you when you take Because freaking Kamala didn't vote on the When you take the opportunity for them to make money away, they're gonna go to the other person going, hey. Can you give us give us a job? Because that's what, the Latino population likes. They're not the lazy democrat that wants to sit around and whine and get the government handout all day. And I'm not saying all are like that, but you listen to any, any of the ones that were going on the on the on the, the the liberal meltdown train, which is absolutely glorious, by the way, what, is that's what it seems like to us all the oh, the we you may not well, I mean, hell, you've got the, the the, and I don't know exactly what the 4 b's actually stand for, but, the liberal women have actually started going off of the, started doing the 4, side of they're gonna start doing the 4 b movement, which is, which is amazing because, basically what it means is let me go ahead and get it fully pulled up here. 4 b, b movement, but, and b actually stands for 4 nose, the 4 nose.
No sex with men. No giving birth. No no, birth. No dating a man and no marrying a man. Alright? So essentially, now And do that now. So go ahead. Well and no. That's exactly what everybody's saying. It's like, well, thank you. You finally get what we're saying. If you don't want end of June because, you know, they're supposed to be able to get, because they're supposedly not going to get abortions anymore, which is no. It's yeah. You're not gonna be able to get it in Texas. You're not gonna be able to get it in Oklahoma or several other states. Oh, wait. Hold it. Hold it, though. Hold it. The freaking abortion bill was on 13 different states and passed in 7 of those. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so so But they're but they're thinking Yeah. They've been told is that. The the liberal women have been told. Trump is gonna turn all the states, make it a federal deal, and all the states are gonna have to follow no no abortions.
And so they're like, well, okay. For abortions, we're not gonna let you have sex. And everybody's going, thank you. That's all you had to do. If you don't wanna have a kid, then don't have sex. I mean, come on. They stop hook the hookup culture is what is is the one of the big problems to run into. You wanna actually find a good man? Okay. Fine. You no one I mean, no sensible man wants to marry a woman with green or blue or or or orange hair, has a freaking hog ring in her damn nose, has half her head shaved and covered in tattoos. No man no respectable man actually wants that.
When a man when a guy sees a woman like that, she's all he's thinking is, well, there's someone easy I can fuck, and I can have one night stand and not have to worry about her ever again. And that's all. And so, no. The 4 b movement, they is is supposed to be this radical feminist movement thing where they're like, well, we're not gonna have anything to do with men. We're going gay. Be my guest. Go for it. Fun with that? I ain't hurt my feelings. I've seen enough, enough feminist women and and and feminized women well, fem feminist women who were standing around and they're just wondering why in the hell they can't find a good man.
Well, guess what? No. And they usually have 22 of the 4, you know, items that I just checked off. They usually and all of them seem to have the damn damn ring in their freaking nose. I don't know why they think that's sexy.
[00:24:39] Rich Chelson:
Well, I I I mean, that's their expression. They are expressing themselves.
[00:24:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. They're expressing themselves. They're expressing, hey. I'm an easy lay. Yeah. Right. And then they stand around and go, well, why why won't men, marry me? Because one, you're too easy. Well 2, you dress too provocatively. Men, greatest turn on for a man is, believe it or not, covering yourself up a little bit. You can wear a beautiful dress. You could wear it like a nice, you know, a nice knee length or or or longer pencil skirt that really gives you a really stunning silhouette, women. And you will have more guys turn their attention to you than if you walked in in a bikini.
Yeah. The ones that are walking up to you in a bikini thinking, no, you're, they're just gonna get, have an easy, swing at you. But the more you're being mysterious, the easier, the, the more you're weeding the, the, the fuck boys out, out of the equation. Okay. Because when they realize, oh, well, you're not even gonna let me have a chance. I'm gonna find someone who's easy and the, and the fuck boys are gonna disappear. And you're gonna get the guys who are gonna try a little harder. And when they don't get, when they don't get what they want, you're going to be, you're gonna end up with the quality men, the men who are actually interested in you for the things that you want want men to be interested in.
[00:26:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But you can't tell them that because their favorite savior didn't win.
[00:26:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, when it comes to feminists, you're right. Yeah. But at the same time, the majority of the women in the us voted for Trump.
[00:26:29] Rich Chelson:
Yes, I know.
[00:26:31] Bryan Goodwin:
And so there's a lot of sane women out there, guys. That's the, that's the key point. Check this out.
[00:26:36] Rich Chelson:
A Muslim community most voted for Trump. Yeah. Black
[00:26:42] Bryan Goodwin:
All second. Everybody,
[00:26:44] Rich Chelson:
every fucking buddy voted for Trump because Exactly. They were too tired of paying $345 gallon gas, $45 carton of fucking eggs, $5 a gallon milk. They couldn't their babies. They're like, fuck this now, and it's about time.
[00:27:07] Bryan Goodwin:
And The democrats completely forgot that it's how can my life be better? It's not what can you do for me? How can my life be better?
[00:27:20] Rich Chelson:
You see, that's the thing. The Democrats don't give a shit.
[00:27:24] Bryan Goodwin:
They No. They don't. They, they wanna give out their freebies.
[00:27:27] Rich Chelson:
No. Their, their whole thought is what can you do for them? How much money can you make them? How much money can you give them? What can we take from you? And then turn around and give it back to you and and show you what kind of good job we're doing when actually it's your money that they're doing it with. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's that. I mean, I mean, look at their model, look at it over the years.
[00:27:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Let's let's take everybody else's money and let's do something to do what we want with everybody else's money, but let's make sure ours does not get Touched.
[00:28:06] Rich Chelson:
Touched. Yeah. Exactly. And that's like like like I was saying when, you know, before a dude jumped on, this evening, they, got done with my roof, and it was it was late. It was about and they left. It was about 20 after 5. It was dark. They had just gotten done, and, I was gonna make something for dinner. I'm like, you know what? Screw this. I'm gonna order a pizza. I'm tired. And I I just I just I just wanted I just wanted a pizza. So I ordered a pizza, and, the guy's name was Gerardo who brought it to me. K. And and he gets there, you know, gets out and comes out, bring me on my face. I'm like, how are you doing?
You know? I mean, you know, I'm I'm tired of shit, hurting in pain, and, kinda just, you know, but I was trying to be upbeat, you know. And, and it was dude was so quiet. It was like he was like, what the hell? And and he just it I I I mean, it felt like he wanted to break down and cry. And and and and it didn't hit me right at first, you know? And, I mean, he just he just his voice trailed off. You you know, I mean, seriously, I mean, this guy was actually heartbroken, I guess. And, you know, I thanked him and went back inside because I'm like, yeah. I my mind started thinking. I'm like, I think I just met my first liberal who is upset that his savior didn't win.
And and and the more I was sitting there thinking about it, it's like, yeah. Because I mean, this guy, you could tell he just had no had no gumption, I guess, for lack of a better word
[00:30:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:30:13] Rich Chelson:
Of, of trying to be an, normal person because he was just too heartbroken. And I was just like, wow. I'm like, I met my first liberal who wants to cry. And it it that's that's that's first time it had ever I had ever found one like that, you know. Normally, normally, if I find them, they're pissed, screaming, yelling, and will not let you get a word in edgewise. And that's when I just shut up, turn around, and walk away because yeah. I was like, I ain't got time for you bullshit. You know? But, yeah, it was just yeah. It was funny. It was funny. Dude was he was young, early early to mid twenties, you know, and everything. I I didn't see no piercings, but I didn't look that close at him. But either Right. Piercings doesn't doesn't make you liberal or or anything else.
But but it just I don't know. It was just it was just kinda funny that, you know, when it hit me, I was just like, wow. That's cool. I can't help it, man. It just it was cool.
[00:31:36] Bryan Goodwin:
I had never To to laugh upon the the tears of a liberal. So Right? There are those times where we we I actually enjoyed that we, can be actually that cruel. So
[00:31:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And and say and say, that's the thing. You know? I I mean, you say, I don't think I don't think I could even, you know, if if if if I was to have a discussion with a brokenhearted liberal, and that sounds like a major country song right there. I mean, yeah, actually, if you stop and think about it. But, I I I I I don't know. I could be kind, but only so far.
[00:32:23] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:32:24] Rich Chelson:
I because I know me and because this is why I normally stay away from liberals because I just wanna call them a fucking dumbass and smack them upside the head. But I know I know that's not gonna help, you know, because they're still they're still gonna believe in their saviors. They have multiples, and they're gonna worry. And and you see, this is what I don't get about liberals. Okay? Now here's something I've been thinking about. Why do people let let, like, freaking Kamala Harris control their lives, control what they think, control what they do, or, well, you know, better yet, even on the freaking Republican side, they do the same thing with freaking a republican candidate.
Right. You know? And it's like, why? Why do people let other people control them?
[00:33:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Because it's easier. It's it it and I mean, and that's the that's one of the big things that I personally am trying to work with on men is just start stop sleeping through life. And that's that's what humans as a as a, as a whole have a problem with. They want to it's easier to just go on autopilot. Let that, something amygdala, not even the hippocampus. Anyhow, you're, you've got the habit center of your brain, right? Because our brain is motivated by 3 things. It is motivated by pleasure avoiding pain and doing that as efficiently as possible.
[00:34:22] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:34:24] Bryan Goodwin:
So if it, it can find something that's pleasurable, that doesn't hurt and they can turn that into a habit, which is doing things very efficiently. That's why you, after a while, you can drive to the store and get to the store and go, shit. How did I get to the store? I don't remember anything about the drive.
[00:34:44] Rich Chelson:
Fuck.
[00:34:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I I can do that going to Ramey's and that's a half mile away. Well, yeah, I could do, I used to do that. You know, I'd find myself going to work and I'd be from Garland and be, and work be up in Carrollton. And there's several times where I remember getting out onto 6:35 in Dallas. And then I remember pulling, and then I just, all of a sudden my brain would kick on to back into, into gear at, as I pulled into stream international.
[00:35:13] Rich Chelson:
That's scary, dude.
[00:35:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, but, but the thing is, is that it's not that I was asleep. It's not that I was, because I was still very conscious. Well, yeah, no, I know. But it was just that the processing power was, was shut down because, you know, our brain thinks, oh my gosh, we can't be using our, the full frontal cortex the whole time. That burns too much energy. If we burn too much energy, we're going to, we, we, we may not eat tonight. And if we don't eat tonight, we may starve. Right. And so it it that's pain. So it's avoiding pain by going off and going, you know what? Use as little energy as possible.
And so we do. We lure use as little energy possible. We sit on the couch. We turn on the television, and we just sit there and stuff our face because it's very pleasurable to put food in our mouth. It's very pleasurable to sit on a comfortable couch. It's very pleasurable to get the serotonin and dopamine from the television. Plus you have your phone in your hand, which gives you a little more serotonin and dopamine. So you've got all this, all good stuff happening and you're not, brain's not actually doing any thoughts. Well, this is true. And then they wonder they've done that for 10 years in a marriage, and then they wonder why their wife is discontent, was so discontent with them.
Why their kids don't really come to them for any problems. They wonder why they haven't gotten anything done in their life. Because eventually they find themselves at 40 years old going, fuck, what have I done? And we had the midlife crisis. That's what the midlife crisis says is you wake up going, shit. I have not done anything Right. With my life for the past 20 years. What happened? You're mad. And so, yep, you get everybody doing going in blind panic.
[00:37:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but you see, that's the thing. And and I've been like this before, but, I mean, I've crawled out of it for the most part. I I still go away in the kiddie pool. Oh, yeah. Wow. You know? But but I don't stay in the kiddie pool that often. Right. See, that's the thing a lot of people
[00:37:28] Bryan Goodwin:
a lot of men well, women too. But No. No. Women are I mean, they do the same thing. They they do their their thing. They get home. They pop open a a a bottle of wine. That's a good question. Don't examine beer. How well that bottle of wine why they open the bottle of wine. They don't even examine that. Same as guys. They, you know, they pour themselves, pop open a can of beer or a bottle of beer and sit on the couch. Don't think why do they open the can the open that beer up. I had a busy day. How did you have a busy day? And how is that beer helping you have a non busy day?
It is the I don't want joy that you're pr the satisfaction that you get from that that alcohol.
[00:38:16] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:38:17] Bryan Goodwin:
And it doesn't actually provide any help. It doesn't provide any goodness for you. It doesn't provide anything for you other than it may give you, get you a little tipsy and it pisses off. It pisses your wife off because now all of a sudden you just wreak a beer while you're trying to smooch on her.
[00:38:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. And see, that's the thing, though, and that's where that's where that's where people need to learn how to, you know, get away from that or or do it less. I'm not saying I'm not saying totally cut it out of your life. I mean, it's better if you do. But but if, you know, if you cut it back extremely hard, your life will be so much better and so much more fulfilled than, you know, and and you can actually have an intelligent conversation with people and not sound like a Neanderthal.
[00:39:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Well, and if you cut alcohol completely out of your life, and that's what you're always going to, the funny thing is is that all you're left with are the thoughts is the why. And if you can get through all the bullshit your brain throws at you be with the thoughts of, well, I like it. It helps me unwind. It tastes good. It helps me relax. These are all bullshit answers.
[00:39:37] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[00:39:38] Bryan Goodwin:
When you get to the root of it, of whatever type and it's usually some type of form of shame, fear, resentment, or regret. Yep. Some type of disempowering emotion or some type of of fear based emotion, which, I mean, disempowered emotion is also all emotions are either love or fear based, but, they're all fear based emotions, but you've got, you know, it's afraid, oh, I'm my wife is gonna leave me. You know? We've got that type of fear or I am just not good enough. I'm not adequate enough. There is some type of shame, mixed in there, with it. And so to drown that though that thought, that unpleasant thought out, people turned to alcohol
[00:40:25] Duuude-Ron :
or Yeah. Turned to food or turned to video games or turned to,
[00:40:30] Bryan Goodwin:
you know Turn to porn. Porn.
[00:40:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Turn turn to a crutch. Yeah. That is that is noninvasive.
[00:40:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Yeah. I call those buffers.
[00:40:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[00:40:44] Bryan Goodwin:
That's a good And so it we but allows us to just stay sleeping instead of waking up waking ourselves up and going, well, what is making my life so damn awful? Why am I not happy? Well, first off, you're not happy because life is 5050. Half of it's gonna be pain, half of it's gonna be pleasure. The moment you realize that, you find yourself a whole lot happier. Well, something I read on Facebook today on my feed. Right?
[00:41:13] Rich Chelson:
And it said it said Okay. Life is hard for years until it becomes easy.
[00:41:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And that's when you change your view of what the resistance, what are you resisting?
[00:41:30] Rich Chelson:
Exactly.
[00:41:30] Bryan Goodwin:
When you stop resisting and accept the fact that there's things in life, that's gonna suck. When you stop resisting the fact that, oh, this is gonna this is hard. This is terrible. Yeah. Congratulations. You're doing some hard stuff. You're being a human.
[00:41:46] Rich Chelson:
And and when you stop, and freaking realize that you're gonna fucking fail and you're not perfect, things would get easier. Yeah.
[00:41:57] Bryan Goodwin:
You take that learn that failure as meaning, hey, it's time to see why I failed. Examine that, do an after action review. Right. Change something and try again.
[00:42:10] Rich Chelson:
Yep. And if I don't, but And be okay with the fact that you're gonna fail once more. Right. Restart the process until you figure it out. And guess what? That's life.
[00:42:21] Bryan Goodwin:
And you will figure it out. World. Or you will actually truly fail and give up and turn away. Well, true. And when you truly give up and you lay whatever it is that you're, you're, that's bothering you down and you refuse to ever address it ever again. That's when you fail, you stop following your dream because, oh, it's just too hard. You truly failed. Yep. The failures of the, along the way, we're just learning opportunities. You change, you, you look, you change trajectory, you, you recalibrate and you try again. If you stop completely and just say, never mind. I'm taking my toys. I'm going home. You're being the victim.
You're essentially just being a bitch. You're packing shit up, and you're going home because it's too hard. Pretty much. And that's It don't have to be that way. No. It does not have to be that way at all. No. You can actually be okay with the fact that, oh, goddamn, this sucks. You can, as it's been said, embrace the suck.
[00:43:42] Rich Chelson:
You know? Yes. And, you know, it's funny. I I I also freaking I'm I mean, yes. It's that's a perfectly acceptable term, especially in this conversation. But at the same time, I totally hate that too because Why? I I it I well, because, you know, that's the thing. You know? I'm always embracing the suck at at at one point of time in the day every day. Yeah. And it's like and and it's like it's like yes. I know. And and I've even you know, when well, the other night when when I had to get up on my roof and I'm fucking I'm I mean, that's the first time I'd been on a fucking ladder in a long time. And I couldn't hardly walk up the fucking ladder because my hips were, you know, I felt like I had fucking needles stabbing me and Right. My shoulder and everything. And I and I just freaking got pissed at myself because I was like, goddamn, I fucking hurt.
You know, I'm screaming because my shoulder's fucking hurting. And I fucking just looked at myself. I said, shut the fuck up, Justin, and just get it done. Get it done. Get it out of the way. You know, basically saying embrace the suck. You know, and and it's like and it's like, fuck you, you know. Yeah. I'm sitting here having a fight with myself on top of my roof. On top of my roof. In the fucking dark. Arms. Yeah. You know, in the fucking dark, trying to screw my fucking tarp down. So I didn't get no water in my, you know, house anymore. And it it just sometimes, yeah, I just wanna fucking give up, but I can't.
No. That's the thing. I can't because I know if I do, like like he was saying that that I would totally fail and, oh, fuck. I ain't letting nobody see that of me. Right. Yeah. I won't. You know? I'll die first before I let anybody see me fucking just give up and walk away.
[00:45:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:45:47] Rich Chelson:
You know? It just I don't know. I I mean, I I like the term, but I hate the term at the same time. Oh, and I could get it. I get it. But yeah. So, Ron, what do you think of it?
[00:46:02] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I'm just sitting here and listening to you guys, and I really can't comment on anything to tell you the truth. I'm just because I'm just kinda like, yeah, embrace the suck. Yeah. My life sucks every damn day. You know? But as I'm listening to you guys, it's like, yeah, I can relate to every bit of that. And, you know, I can agree with everything. You know? I I really don't have a comment. I'm just like yeah. I mean, I sound like a little fucking dumb individual, But it's like, you know, it would be nice to be able to, you know, have a little bit better of a financial, you know, status in life.
You know? And one day one day, I will. You know? I know I will. You know? But but as far as everything that you guys have been saying, I'm, you know, I'm just here listening, and it's like, you know, that's really all I can do. I really can't comment on anything of what you guys have been talking about. I can agree with everything, though.
[00:47:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But what what is it about what we said that you agree with?
[00:47:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know, the, the suck factor. You know, just fucking suck it up and drive on. Right. Okay. So that's that's on my days. It's like the only thing I wanna do, like, on the weekend. Yes. I know I have to get up and go to work and do my job, and I do my job, you know, very professionally, very proficiently. But on the weekends, it's like I'm just burnt the fuck up. The only thing I wanna do is try and fucking sleep. You know? I'm just exhausted with life.
[00:48:39] Bryan Goodwin:
So what do you do to try to to keep going?
[00:48:49] Duuude-Ron :
Because of the fact that, you know, there's a, you know, a lot of people out there probably dependent upon me whether I know it or not.
[00:49:02] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:49:04] Duuude-Ron :
You know? My family, you know, as bad as my relationship is with all my family members, you know, I still have to get up and make sure that, you know, hopefully, one day, everything will go in the right direction of just everything, everything in general, especially the financial aspects. Because that's pretty much what tears this family apart.
[00:49:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. No. And I, I could see how that could be a be a a a millstone around a a a person's neck.
[00:50:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Pretty big pretty big millstone. It's got those, 5 inch 5 inch chain links
[00:50:12] Bryan Goodwin:
holding that motherfucker up. Right. So what is the difference between what your situation is versus other people who you might look at and see their life actually being worse? What is what's the difference between what you you've got and what somebody else has?
[00:50:40] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and that's kind of on a double edged sword aspect. So you look at Elon Musk. Okay? Riches right now, he's, I guess, from what I've heard, the richest man in the world. Okay? Hell, before by the time he buy makes any major purses like an airplane or a yacht or a mansion, before that transaction is done, he's already made that money back and then some. K. But on the flip side of that, all these people that I see on they come across my, Facebook feed, and I can't remember the name of the individual that goes out and feeds the homeless.
And those individuals, just somebody living out of a vehicle or out of a tent. And I have a 4 bedroom house filled with, for lack of a better word, stuff. I am you know, should I be blessed? Well, yes, I am. I have a roof over my head. My stomach is full. I'm not living out the elements. You know? And I have a job. So but, you know, would I like to be on the lines of a Elon Musk? Well, yes and no. Just to partly have some of his financial, you know, success. But do I want to have all of his headaches, you know, that he carries, the weight that he carries on a daily basis about, you know, all his businesses.
Right. You know, which is the you know, who is actually more blessed?
[00:53:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, but let's look at look at this. Okay. So now let's go because Elon Musk is as rich as he is, you and him don't quite compare. Right? It would be nice to have his his billions, but you're closer to let's look at somebody who's just a little under you. Let's say somebody who is living in the DFW area and is just squeaking by with $30,000 a year. Many of those people, they're out there living in an apartment. They've got a, hoopty for a damn car. That might Knock knock down. Yeah.
[00:54:00] Rich Chelson:
Don't be knocking the hoopty doo.
[00:54:04] Bryan Goodwin:
But driving a driving one hell of a beater, it's just running on sheer willpower of the driver. You know, they're not living in the best neighborhood. They may be living say like off of, off of loop 12 on Buckner Boulevard. And in one of those apartments, I used to live in one of those apartments right off of Buckner Boulevard. Wouldn't deliver pizza after 5 o'clock. This place was in rough, But the difference between those people and actually back when I was at at that stage, whenever I'm I remember whenever I was at moved out of Dallas and I was living in Hamilton making under $30,000 now granted it was Hamilton, Texas.
The cost of living isn't quite as high. You had to drive in an hour and a half to get to a Walmart, to be able to buy your groceries for the next 2 weeks. But we lived in a little bitty 2 bedroom house and had the time of our life. And yet so many poor people also happen to be so happy or appear. Show show the examples of what we think happiness is. They're laughing. They're joking. They're they're smiling. They take life a day at a time as opposed to somebody like you, Ron, that has got the weight of the world on their shoulders. So does money actually bring that joy? Is that the is that the root of the actual suffering that you have?
[00:55:58] Duuude-Ron :
Well, money will get the bills paid. Does money buy happiness? It no, it doesn't because,
[00:56:12] Bryan Goodwin:
But it makes it easier for happiness to appear.
[00:56:15] Rich Chelson:
Jeeps make happiness.
[00:56:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yes. This is true.
[00:56:23] Rich Chelson:
I knew you could get that.
[00:56:26] Duuude-Ron :
You can and you can buy happiness. It only lasts for a very short amount of time. Yeah. If everybody knows where I'm going to on that.
[00:56:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But a lot. When you cry.
[00:56:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No shit.
[00:56:43] Rich Chelson:
No shit.
[00:56:46] Duuude-Ron :
What is it like you just said, Brian, what is wealth? You know? Yeah. What is it? Having a not having very much money, but happy with your family. Okay. You don't get to fly 1st class and go to, you know, Kirk's and Tate or Kirk's and Caicos, you know, every month. Right. But, you know, you find things to do that you can afford but are fun things that, you know, that the whole family can do. You know? So what is what is truly a definition of wealth?
[00:57:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So what is your definition of wealth?
[00:57:52] Duuude-Ron :
Shit. I don't have any fucking wealth anymore.
[00:57:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, but but okay. You just said. Well, what is what is your definite if you don't have any definite if you don't have any wealth right now, what is your definition of wealth? Because you apparently are measuring it on something, so you have if you have no no, no, wealth right now, what is it that you don't have?
[00:58:19] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I right now, just right now in my life, I don't have any wealth whatsoever. I just exist.
[00:58:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. I get up every morning because So what would it what would you need to be wealthy?
[00:58:38] Duuude-Ron :
Well, a loving spouse. A companion, a companion that, you know, we can both enjoy each other's, enjoy each other. Yeah. Whether it's holding hands, walking on the bee, you know, going out wheeling with the Jeep, something Rich has no fucking clue of what to do when when that when that happens.
[00:59:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Okay. Even though I was just have no idea I was just waiting. I I was to to wheel on the beats.
[00:59:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Just don't just stop waiting to on the beats. You'll sink.
[00:59:29] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Doing you well. No. Well, as long as you don't you're if you stop where a lot a lot of idiots part stop and, you know, we're within the high tide zone.
[00:59:40] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, well, that's why you air down. And you have an air down you have an air down tool. You have an air up tool, and you actually know how to drive out of that situation. Again, Rich, you know, I haven't well, he can play a little bit on rocks, but, you know, I haven't seen him play on a on a sand. So, you know, on the beat.
[01:00:09] Rich Chelson:
Well, you need to come. You need to come. Yeah. I hear And we will go find a beat, and I will show you what in the hell to do because because playing in sand is almost like playing in mud, and I know I can play in mud.
[01:00:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That you just that was an open ended converse or, statement right there. Man, what I could what I could do with that comment, I just won't do it. I just won't do it.
[01:00:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, dude. But You're breaking my heart. Somebody Any other time you would jump on the on that.
[01:00:52] Duuude-Ron :
I know I would.
[01:00:54] Rich Chelson:
The moment has passed, man. The moment has passed.
[01:00:58] Duuude-Ron :
And that's fine. I you know, that is absolutely fine. I just I don't have the energy to jump onto it. But my debt my wealth would be to have a companion that we enjoy each other's company and want to be together Right. And spend time together. Even if it is just going for a walk out on the beat. You know? How much how much does that cost? Well, if you live close to the beach, it only gonna cost you gas. But that would be my definition right now in my life of wealth to have a companion that, you know, I enjoy being with.
[01:01:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So how are you going about on achieving that well?
[01:01:58] Duuude-Ron :
Not a damn thing right now. Okay. So And the reason why is because, of the financial status that can't afford a divorce to go find somebody else and, you know, other aspects of, you know, getting this household.
[01:02:19] Bryan Goodwin:
So what would it what would it okay. But, again, these are all you do realize those were all just excuses as to why you're not wanting to step out to get your
[01:02:30] Duuude-Ron :
get that wealth. Right? You're right. There there it is nothing but excuses. You are absolutely correct. There there's, you know, I cannot disagree with that whatsoever.
[01:02:47] Bryan Goodwin:
So what is it about going for that that goal of the wealth that you were desiring, what's keeping you stuck where you're at? Because we know if it we know it's an excuse, so it's not actually the finances that the current finances you have. Right? It's not even about the house. There's something else that's holding you back. What is that thought that's keeping you there, miserable?
[01:03:25] Duuude-Ron :
I can't you know? Unfortunately, I cannot give you a logical answer to that question. What in any way, shape, or form, I have no logical answer
[01:03:37] Bryan Goodwin:
to give you. What happened if what is if you were to give up on on all the money? Whatever the fine whatever you're telling yourself the financials, bits are. What if you were able to prove to yourself that that that thought is false, that I I don't have the money to be able to get the divorce? What if you were able to prove to yourself that that was that was false? How closer how much closer would you be to starting to find the joy that you have that you're that you're seeking? The or not even the joy because you can't actually find all the joy. Even finding if you even if you found the perfect woman that you, were looking for, the one who wants who grabs you by the arm every night time you get home, you sit down to wanna kick your feet up. She's going, come on, babe. We're going to her beach.
Eventually, you're gonna go, come on a damn, man. I wanna just sit here and kick my feet up for a moment. Can I just kick my feet up? You know? You're gonna find that perfect woman, and it's not gonna bring all the the happiness. There's gonna have your like I said, life is 5050. Half of it's gonna be pain. Half of it's gonna be pleasure. So Yeah. There's gonna be those half of those half that time, that woman of your dreams is gonna be a pain in your ass. So what is it that's going got all that wound up, and I'm the point I was making just dribbled completely out of my fucking ear. So but anyhow, what is it how you know? What is it that it's going to, what is the what is it gonna take for you to prove to yourself that you are not that the finances is bullshit?
[01:05:34] Duuude-Ron :
Again, I I again, for our listening audience, I cannot fucking give you
[01:05:46] Rich Chelson:
an intelligent,
[01:05:49] Duuude-Ron :
even remotely intelligent
[01:05:51] Bryan Goodwin:
answer to that because I don't How about a how about a have it. Alright. But okay. So if you can't give a, an intelligent answer, give us just an answer.
[01:06:06] Duuude-Ron :
I guess it's laziness, depression.
[01:06:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, would if you were to able to get what is it about this depression that you like?
[01:06:20] Duuude-Ron :
Not a fucking thing.
[01:06:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Not okay. But so why are you holding on to it?
[01:06:24] Duuude-Ron :
I don't.
[01:06:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Don't say I don't know because what if you did? What if you did know? If I did
[01:06:34] Duuude-Ron :
If I did know, I wouldn't be depressed. Oh, okay. If I did know if I did know, you know, again, I guess it goes back to your statement that it's easier to be lazy and just deal with it than it is to resolve a painful,
[01:07:01] Bryan Goodwin:
you know I agree it's gonna be painful.
[01:07:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:07:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Every bit of it's gonna be painful. And that's what we're mostly afraid of. Is it, oh my god. It's gonna be painful. But is it? And how badly is that painfulness going to be?
[01:07:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And until
[01:07:19] Bryan Goodwin:
you actually do it, you won't know. You won't know. And we are so many times, we are so afraid, oh, this is gonna be just the biggest pain in the ass. This is gonna be so, I mean, she is just gonna, you know, my ex soon to be ex wife is gonna be the biggest pain in the butt. She's gonna demand everything. She's gonna take my take my the shirt off my back and everything, and I'm never gonna be able to escape her. Okay. Then you get up there and yeah, she takes everything. She takes shirt off your back. Guess what? You're free. You're free of her.
You don't have to worry about her. You can buy another shirt. Yeah. You may have to walk around, you know, showing everybody your amazing, stomach muscles for a while, but that's okay.
[01:08:06] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Yes. And if I walk if I was to just walk away and walk out of this house, there's not very much that I would yeah. I don't wanna fucking sleep in the Jeep.
[01:08:27] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I don't blame you there. So bring an air mattress.
[01:08:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, we got our 4 door folded seats down, throw an air mattress in there. You could just get him on, man.
[01:08:38] Duuude-Ron :
You got Well, there's
[01:08:40] Rich Chelson:
AC. You got heat when it's cold, but you don't go far enough north to figure that
[01:08:47] Duuude-Ron :
out. But, I mean Well, shit. When it gets below sick when it gets below 50 degrees, I'm cold. Reg
[01:08:55] Rich Chelson:
regardless. K. Take your Wubi. Your Woobie will keep you warm.
[01:09:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know. I gotta I gotta get another Woobie.
[01:09:03] Bryan Goodwin:
You better get another one. Supply stores. They're everywhere. Oh, I know they are. They're nowhere near as often as plentiful as they used to be. What has happened to the army supply stores?
[01:09:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, I haven't stepped foot into it. I haven't stepped foot into an army supply store in years. We've Probably because there
[01:09:25] Rich Chelson:
Go ahead, dude.
[01:09:27] Duuude-Ron :
Probably because there's nothing really in an army supply store that I need anymore.
[01:09:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, come on. You want some dummy grenades? Those are fun.
[01:09:38] Rich Chelson:
No. We want the real shit we used to.
[01:09:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Go fishing.
[01:09:43] Rich Chelson:
Fuck the dummy.
[01:09:46] Duuude-Ron :
Go fishing with a stick of dynamite. Exactly. Fuck the fuck you know, fuck the chance stuff with a reel and rod. Yeah. You know, let's actually let's not do some fishing. Let's go do some catching.
[01:10:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly. I mean, if we're gonna eat, we're gonna eat right. Alright?
[01:10:05] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. Go get a stick of dynamite. Guaranteed.
[01:10:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Have a nice little little aftertaste of Semtex, you know, or something. It'd be great.
[01:10:13] Duuude-Ron :
You know, that that's fine. That's fine. I've I've shit.
[01:10:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. You know? We do we do have an army navy store up here in town, and I've been there. But they're awful proud of their shit, man. Oh, really? Oh god. They are way proud of their shit.
[01:10:34] Bryan Goodwin:
I guess the preppers have driven the prices up. So yeah.
[01:10:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's what I'm figuring. But, yeah, they are I I mean, I walked in there because, you know, I'll go through and just see, you know, if I could find some stuff from, you know, when I was saying, oh yeah, I can find it, but fuck I ain't, I ain't paying those prices.
[01:10:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They used to be surplus stores. Like you can pick up and, pick up a, a good, good compass for, you know, a buck.
[01:11:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No.
[01:11:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. That's the only thing I've ever bought from a, from an army navy store is I got one of the, one, one of the army's, the metal, compasses that unfolds and has got the sight thing and the dial thing and the and You mean to dial the door? On the side. Paid a dollar for you. I actually I think it's been about, $5. It wasn't much. Really? Yeah. Well, this was back in, like, 91.
[01:11:33] Rich Chelson:
Well, reason I'm saying because, when I lived out in Virginia, about no shit. Almost, what? You know, 5, 6, and I was so longer than that. Fuck. 10, 15 years ago. I went to this one army navy store, and I was looking for, one of those compasses. And, this old boy didn't have any in stock, but he said he could get them, and they were $75.
[01:12:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Holy smokes.
[01:12:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And and I bought I bought one, and and this one was it it was new, brand new, never been used, and it was made in 1977. Oh, wow. And and the thing is So it was
[01:12:19] Duuude-Ron :
so it was actually a, nuclear compass, a true nuclear compass.
[01:12:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So what's a nuclear compass?
[01:12:31] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. The, the glow of the compass?
[01:12:37] Rich Chelson:
That's true.
[01:12:39] Duuude-Ron :
We you don't have to use a flashlight or a light to illuminate Oh, it's got radium or whatever in it? Yeah. Yeah. It has yeah. Urate yeah. It has uranium. Yeah.
[01:12:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. In in that to where Geiger counter was it?
[01:12:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. To where yeah. Seriously? Yeah. It would go off with a Geiger counter.
[01:13:01] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I would.
[01:13:03] Duuude-Ron :
One of those I got I got one of those someplace in the garage. But you can open it up right now. Does that? I can open it up right now, and it would glow. The the numbers, the The dial. North south, the up, the dial, everything that it is supposed to glow will glow without any without any help from a light source. And it'll continue to glow for the next 5000 years. Yep. Probably so.
[01:13:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Probably so. That is wild.
[01:13:36] Rich Chelson:
But but yeah. Seriously. And and that's the thing. You know, I had bought this from this army navy store and, oh, man. And I still have it to this day. In fact, I still use it to this day. Especially when I'm setting up an antenna and everything, you know, and I'm wanting to make sure I'm, oriented right. Right. You know, with with the way I'm wanting to go, I use it. And, yeah, sure as shit. I pop it open and, yeah, it lights.
[01:14:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, no. Mine doesn't do that. So
[01:14:07] Rich Chelson:
that maybe that's why it's $5. So Well, that well, that's why I was asking because, you know, those ones that are
[01:14:14] Bryan Goodwin:
that are freaking illuminated. I I was gonna say, if you got one for $5, you stole that bitch. No. No. Mine doesn't mine doesn't do that. Mine's just it's it got the metal body. It's got a little it's got a little ruler on one side. Uh-huh. It folds up out. It's got the little, magnified, peep hole so you can line everything up, and stuff. And it's got the dial so that you can actually orient for, you know, the degrees and stuff. So Yeah. I mean, it's got all that other than yeah. The light the the numbers and everything on it don't light up because it's not irradiated with with, radon.
[01:14:55] Rich Chelson:
K. What's your name? Now this one this one I got is, tritium.
[01:15:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay. So it's actually got the, the the the, so tritium. No. I'm thinking of, trinitite is what it is.
[01:15:15] Rich Chelson:
Now tritium is, there there was they made them out of 2 different things, and I think they'd switched to tritium because the first one, was, too hot for for humans. Right. You know, because, yes, they will set off a a Geiger counter. And so they they switched them. And, let me look it up real quick.
[01:15:49] Unknown:
See if I can
[01:15:52] Rich Chelson:
okay. Yeah. Tritium half life. Let's see what it says for half life. Says the half life of tritium is 12.33 years. So and it and it actually and it just takes a little over 12 years for half of the tritium to decay into helium. Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that occurs naturally and is also produced by nuclear power plants. It's chemically identical to hydrogen, so it can easily enter the body through ingestion. And it's mostly found in water where it replaces a hydrogen atom to form, tritiated water. Tritiated water is odorless and colorless and has the same chemical properties as regular water.
And they use it in glow in the dark lighting, biomedical
[01:16:53] Bryan Goodwin:
research, and Yeah. Well, they I know they used to use radium, and that was I mean, they used to have that's where so many, they used to have, like, the radium girls, because they would paint the, the clock hands with radium. And, yeah, this stuff was, like, crazy hot. But at the same time, the glass would actually, once the, once every got thing, everything got painted and it got put into the case that actually the, the uranium or the, the radiation from the radium would actually drop off significantly down to a safe level. Right. But sadly, the girls were having to were painting the, painting the hands and the numbers. And one of the ways to get the the the, the the paintbrush to stick, stand up like it needs to, they would lick the, they would lick the, the paintbrush.
And so they were ingesting radium, which is, you know, insanely,
[01:17:52] Rich Chelson:
radioactive. So Now now I check this out on, Amazon, army surplus world, few other, these compasses, like the one I have at Tritium Uh-huh. Are running anywhere from 98 to a 150. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. There's there's a few like like on eBay, there's one showing for 24, but I'm not sure if it's a buy it now or if it's a bid.
[01:18:26] Bryan Goodwin:
But yeah. That looks it's almost exactly like what I had. The camay, camminga?
[01:18:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. But Mine been lined up, though. Yeah. And you can see and that's where, well, you might hear the phosphorescent Yeah. I mean, it may be the phosphorescent, but which, needs an external light source. Right. Buying a flashlight or whatnot, but tritium does not.
[01:18:55] Bryan Goodwin:
But, yeah, that's the that's the exact, that's the very same, same compass that I have, Mhmm. Have at the house right now. The con with the, like I said, the little ruler on the side. And Yeah. Yeah. These are the ones we used in,
[01:19:10] Rich Chelson:
in, in a basic for lab, Land Nav
[01:19:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[01:19:15] Rich Chelson:
When we had Land Nav, of course. So
[01:19:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't even know if they do that anymore.
[01:19:24] Rich Chelson:
You know, on in basic? No. Honestly, I don't think so, but I'm not sure. But yeah. I mean yeah. We, yeah. We had to do land nav.
[01:19:35] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. And so did we? And pass
[01:19:38] Rich Chelson:
it. Okay. Good.
[01:19:39] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. You had to find 4 out of the 5 points to pass Land Nav.
[01:19:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[01:19:47] Duuude-Ron :
And that was in every school. Let's see. Basic training, PLDC, primary leadership development course, BNOC, basic noncommissioned officer course, ANOC, advanced noncommissioned officer course. Yeah. Every one of my schools, I had to do MF. Now my neighbor, she was an admin MOS, and she was, what was it? E4 getting ready to go to PLDC. And I had to teach her how to read a compass and how to read a map.
[01:20:36] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yep. Oh my gosh. No way.
[01:20:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because in her basic training, even back then, they the land nav was not like what I had to go through.
[01:20:52] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:20:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. She did have no fucking clue on how to read a map or how to read Compass.
[01:21:01] Rich Chelson:
Did she? Well, then well, then well, then she obviously didn't know how to read a 6 digit or an 8 digit grid square then.
[01:21:11] Duuude-Ron :
No.
[01:21:12] Bryan Goodwin:
I had to teach her that. Well, no. See, I of course. Have y'all never ever gotten lost with a woman? They're one you'd always ask directions. So why should she trouble herself with a with a map? She's just gonna ask directions.
[01:21:27] Rich Chelson:
It's a little hard to do. What what she gonna do? Stop the local grizzly bear, John, and ask him what, you know, where where now? Well, I mean, come on. That's you know, women prefer to be,
[01:21:38] Bryan Goodwin:
be lost in the forest with a bear than a man.
[01:21:41] Rich Chelson:
Well, this is true. Sad to say, but, yes, this is true. So But yeah. But but, see, that's the thing. When when I was in basic, we had to, not only do a, a 6 digit, a 4 digit. That was god, that was stupid. You know you know, that was stupid learning there. 6 digit, 8 digit, and even we had touched on 10 digit grid coordinates. When you get to 10 digits, you're within, like, 3 foot of of where you're at and, everything. And and, I mean, we had to know that shit and pass it. And if we didn't, guess what? You didn't move on.
[01:22:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. AS mode in and AS mode out.
[01:22:35] Duuude-Ron :
And and know and knowing how to read a compass and a map Yep. May may or may not get you to your destination. If you can't if you can't relate to the ground figures of what that map is telling you, you know, the map is worthless.
[01:22:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. And that's the thing. Military maps are all are all are all topographical, so you ain't got no landmarks to use except for a big old fucking rock. Right. I'm talking a big ass rock, like a hill, a mountain, maybe a creek, a river, whatever, you know. If you did none of this stuff, yeah, you were ass out.
[01:23:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. So if you didn't if you didn't know how to read the the topographical aspects, it it that that map was worthless.
[01:23:39] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yep.
[01:23:43] Duuude-Ron :
And we ain't and we ain't even gonna we ain't even gonna touch on a pace count.
[01:23:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. No. No. No. That's that's
[01:23:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because that would go right over Brian's head.
[01:23:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It would. Brian Yep. Nope. No pain. Would feel like you.
[01:24:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, Scott. I'd be like, okay. Well, let's, you know, take, you know, 60 steps a minute, you know, or something like that. You'll get there within a certain number of time. So
[01:24:17] Rich Chelson:
that's what it sounds like when I hear pace count count. So And and and it is, but but you see, rangers carry beads, and and there's a certain number of beads that they count. And then they know when they get to that point, they know how far they've gone in that in that time frame because you have to know your stride length,
[01:24:39] Duuude-Ron :
you know, give or take. That that's the that's the whole thing. It's the stride length. Your stride length count based upon a true measurement on the ground, you know, a 100 meters, 50 meters, what have you, 20 meters. But not going on a level ground, you have to go over obstacles because that's what you're gonna do out in land navigation
[01:25:10] Bryan Goodwin:
is you're gonna go over obstacles. Going going up and down hill is gonna extend your your your number of, steps.
[01:25:18] Duuude-Ron :
That is correct. So yeah. Walking like you would be walking down the street.
[01:25:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Would be, you know, you may say you walk you're on on a track and you walked a 100 paces and you got, I don't know, you know, however far away that was. Well, you did a 100, if you did a 100 paces and you dropped down into a into a, yeah, a creek bed and came back up, you may end up being, you know, 10 paces shorter.
[01:25:53] Duuude-Ron :
That's exactly right.
[01:25:55] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, I understand that. I understand, you know, trying to having to, to guess your, your, how far away it is based upon, you know, what the topographical map ends up telling you. That's, that would be tough. No. No. I mean, worst worst we had to do is have to deal with, you know, how do we get through a wave?
[01:26:19] Rich Chelson:
Grab your butt and spin over and hold on.
[01:26:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Ah, now you just, you just jump from, from one level to the other, as it hits the wave. Did you go up? And so you jump and as the bow goes down, you'll actually clear the top to the next level.
[01:26:35] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:26:35] Duuude-Ron :
Did you
[01:26:37] Bryan Goodwin:
ask now? Did you ask 3 Oh, frogs.
[01:26:41] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:26:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, there you go. Okay. So did you actually prove that Brian
[01:26:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Going to the next level one of the ways? I mean, I I bid it the time I tried doing it. But yeah. Yeah. You can you can actually jump, you know, depending on how high how big of a swing the bow has. You know, if you're out all the way out in the on the, at you know, as far out on the bow as you want as you can be, if it's a if it's a 20 foot, swell that you're going through, yeah, you can jump. You you can jump theoretically 20 feet up in the air. It's gonna hurt like a motherfucker when you hit when you hit the deck as it's coming back up to meet you.
[01:27:23] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah.
[01:27:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. If you don't.
[01:27:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Tuck and roll. Tuck and roll. Tuck and roll. Well, if you don't get that next higher level, which would be a shorter fall. Yeah. You're you're trying to fucking hurt. Yeah. Because what most of the guys are trying to do is they would try to jump. They would stand at the base of the, of the ladder and try to jump up onto the next one. And a lot of times and with that, you have to jump forward and up. And a lot of guys would forget to jump the forward part, and so they would jump and usually it was actually supposed to be we're not allowed to actually do that because too many guys would crack their skull on the on the knife edge of the hatch on the that they were trying to jump through.
So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. So, yeah, didn't save us squids with the smartest creatures in the world, but, you know You just had it. We know what's fun. I mean, come on. With the bubble heads used to have they would go off and, when they were doing emergency bubbles, you know, when they do emergency dives or emergency surfaces, they would, the there a lot of times, they would, they would have fun grab a a piece of cardboard and slide from, you know, the aft end of the ship to the nose when they're doing emergency dives or vice versa when they're doing emergency bubbles. So I never got to witness any of that. That's just what I heard heard they they would do, but still That's a dumb around. I would I would wanna say it, man. Oh, I'd love to do I'd I'd love to do that just once, just, you know, sit on a piece of cardboard and go slide through, you know, however many different, departments.
Alright, dude. You go from the Until you go off and run into the bridge and you take out the captain.
[01:29:16] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell yeah. Game on, dude. We on.
[01:29:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Bowl bowling 45, 45 in half months paid time to shit, mate.
[01:29:27] Rich Chelson:
Hey. Whatever, man. As long as I got it on the GoPro, score them. Score them. It. Because that should've be on YouTube in about 30 seconds.
[01:29:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Then all of a sudden you'd have, you'd have the MP show up and they would, they would take you away because you probably probably went off. It was like that one guy, who didn't even show anything, classified, but he, he ended up getting arrested because he showed the inside of the suffering, like where he was, where he was sleeping.
[01:30:02] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yeah. That's crazy.
[01:30:07] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm sorry. If they ever actually got released or not. That that was I think that was back during Trump's first term.
[01:30:13] Rich Chelson:
What is what is top secret about where a man sleeps or a woman sleeps? No idea. But, but yeah. They, Long as the curtains are drawn, hey. It's all private. Right?
[01:30:25] Bryan Goodwin:
You think so. But at the same time, I mean, it's not just your, not just your bed, especially on submarines that they are, they do hot cuts.
[01:30:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:30:36] Rich Chelson:
No. Hell no. That would be man. That would suck. You know, you have your rack and all like that. Y'all happy. Y'all good. And then then you get some nasty nappy headed motherfucker.
[01:30:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. No. You get a dirtbag sleeping in your bed. No.
[01:30:54] Rich Chelson:
No. No. You see, that's why I was glad I stayed in the army and I didn't go in the navy because I would not have Well, no. That's just that's just for the bubble heads.
[01:31:03] Bryan Goodwin:
It it does that's for those guys who were able to hold their hold their breath 6 months at a time.
[01:31:10] Duuude-Ron :
So you you when you're in the navy, you had your own
[01:31:14] Bryan Goodwin:
bunk. Yeah. Yeah. I had my own I own my own bunk. Yep. I was and and the way it is, because we have coffin racks, and they were stacked stacked 3 high. Low man on the totem pole got the very top bunk. All right. Means you had to climb up. You didn't actually get a actual, coffin locker. You had a, your, you had a standup locker to put all your stuff in the, you know, so, and then 3rd class, 3rd class, petty officers and stuff, they would typically get the very bottom bunk. It was easier to get in and out and stuff, but you also had a coffin lock. So you, oh, you could lift your bed up and you had all this space for all your shit. And then you had a standard blocker for your, for your, for your dress blues and your, Johnny Cash's and and your summer whites and all that.
And then second, 2nd class pay the officers, 1st class pay the officers. They got the middle right, which was you didn't have to bend down to to open your open your your locker. You could stand up. You could open your locker. You could rummage through there. Standing up is fairly comfortable. And so it was a lot more a lot easier. And so you had to make sure that you didn't step on the 1st class petty officer's bed and sheets with your nasty ass shower shoes when you're getting into bed. You know, you had to, you had to figure out how, how do you get up into bed? You know, you had the the low man on the totem pole had to climb you know, Spider Man is way up into this rack without without pissing off the, the petty officer below you, and the petty officer below me was my fucking nemesis.
Hey. Hey. That dude. And he was not a fan a fan of me either. So could not stand o s one Lemaster. Oh my god.
[01:33:19] Rich Chelson:
Man, and I I am so glad I did not go into the navy. I am so glad. Hey, man. But there was times we would,
[01:33:28] Bryan Goodwin:
be underway. We would have steak and lobster. Now the lobster was often a little on the rubbery side because, I mean, hell, you're cooking for 5,000 people. So Right. You know? You you weren't you weren't gonna expect, you know, full all out gourmet, but you had some pretty damn good food. And then, you know, you got to go mess cranking, then and you rolled the, rolled the the digest. Right? You got to go down in chief's mess, and you got the best food there was. So, you know, and I've talked about the chief's mess before. So Right. Right. But but you see, though, that's the thing, man.
[01:34:01] Rich Chelson:
It it just I you see, especially when I was in the military, I was a cocky motherfucker. I mean, I was cocky. Oh, yeah. Dude, I was cocky. No. Yeah. I was. I was, I didn't give 2 shits. And on the ship, I had to kill half the crew within the 1st week.
[01:34:25] Bryan Goodwin:
I was kind of Well, it takes a little bit to get used to the, to to the food. But eventually, yeah, the the gas does die down. I'll just let you know.
[01:34:34] Rich Chelson:
You see, that's why that's why I like the army because, you know, our rooms, most of our rooms, we had 2 people in them. Well, in my first duty station, I had a 4 man room that I had all to myself for a long time. I mean and then and then for some reason, my e 6, I guess, hated me. Well, yeah, he hated me because I was a smartass, and he didn't like me. I don't know why. I mean, I was charming, I thought, but he didn't think so. And, he put 3 other guys with me and, yeah, they, wound up just moving on. And, like, 4 months over 4 months, they were gone and I was back to myself. And it's like, leave me alone, people.
[01:35:25] Bryan Goodwin:
So you were bay you were a bit like a Beatle Bailey.
[01:35:29] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I was. No. No. My shit my shit was dress right dressed, dude, all the time. Dress right dressed, highly shined. I was standing tall and looking good in the neighborhood. But, yeah, they just yeah. They tried to put other people with me. And, I mean, I got along with the people, you know. Right. They just, like I said, moved on. You know, I got transferred or whatnot, different orders, and then everybody forgot about little o me until I left for South Korea. And then and then I was in a room with, 3 people, which I hated.
So because, one guy was, he he, he was not army material. He was just, yeah, air waster is is all he was.
[01:36:26] Duuude-Ron :
God.
[01:36:27] Rich Chelson:
Another guy thought thought his shit didn't stink. It's like, I ain't got no use for either one of you.
[01:36:38] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. No. I I agree, man. Especially in South Korea, up there in, where the hell was I at? TDC, Tong DeShawn, Camp Casey.
[01:36:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I was just I was I was just north of you in Camp Stanley.
[01:36:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:37:00] Bryan Goodwin:
So yeah. I was nowhere close to Camp Beaufort.
[01:37:04] Rich Chelson:
Camp what?
[01:37:07] Bryan Goodwin:
We had a Stanley and a and a and a and a and a who whoever the other one was. So I just like to see who else could be, the Buford Buford. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. That's it.
[01:37:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. To have 3 other individuals in the same small spaces with those Quanta Huts, and everybody left listened to different music and nobody liked anybody else's music that was in those, you know, your roommate Yep. Type aspect. Yeah. No. I'm glad I only had one roommate as being an NCO. Yeah. And sick And that and that still sucked.
[01:37:56] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:37:58] Duuude-Ron :
That having that one individual as a roommate, because me and him it's not that we didn't get along, but
[01:38:11] Bryan Goodwin:
we had Y'all didn't get along?
[01:38:13] Duuude-Ron :
No. We just had different tastes. He I listened to rock and roll. He was he listened to country, and I'm not that big of a country listener. And, now we just didn't have much in common. And, yeah, it kinda sucked to have a roommate that doesn't have anything in common. These.
[01:38:34] Rich Chelson:
Sorry, dude.
[01:38:35] Duuude-Ron :
It hell, yeah. The eighties. That's that's where that's where the fuck it's at, is in the eighties.
[01:38:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Didn't speak to the microphone. If it's
[01:38:46] Duuude-Ron :
big if it's big hair or if it's, you know, beat your face on the stage, you know, that's that's what I listen to.
[01:38:58] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. No. When when I was in South Korea, we, we had actual barracks. And, what was cool though now I had a few different roommates because there was people rotating in and out all the time. Yep. There's this one guy came in. His, last name was Kim. Come to find out, dude was born and raised in South Korea. Raised for a part of his life in South Korea. Okay. Wound up Sorry. Wound up moving to the state and joining the military. Got his citizenship and joined the military, our military.
[01:39:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Just to go back to South Korea.
[01:39:46] Rich Chelson:
It's like, goddamn, man. I was trying to leave this place. Right. Right. And and that's the thing. He didn't ask to come back. They just sent him back. And and I got to knowing him pretty well. And, I mean, dude was a cool guy, man. He was laid back really cool. And, I was I was kinda, selfish because he could he could still speak Korean. So I would have him help me get the hookups with the bar girls. I scored, man. I scored constantly. And Got all those little mama songs, Oh, man. I shit. Dude, every fucking night. Literally, every night.
Oh, yeah. Like, dude, life was great. There's this one girl. I mean, if if if I'd had the $5,000 cash, I would have married her and brought her home.
[01:40:46] Duuude-Ron :
Why do you have why do you have to have 5,000? That's what I was gonna ask too. Well, okay. Back then,
[01:40:52] Rich Chelson:
and I'm not sure if it's still this way now. It might be. But back then, GI is because you see, Camp Stanley is closed now. It's it's no longer a base. But, you could buy a, you know, basically buy well, you say buy, but it's not really, You know, one of these bar girls, you know, if you 2 liked each other, you'd pay mama san $5,000, and they would say it was for the money they spent for the girls' room and the TV and the stuff they had, which everybody knew it didn't cost no $5,000.
[01:41:33] Duuude-Ron :
Now Right.
[01:41:34] Rich Chelson:
I know a guy I knew a guy that, actually married one of them girls over there at the same time I was over there. And he paid the $5,000 with mama san. When he got married, mama san gave them the money back for him to start out with. So it was more of, like, kind of a,
[01:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:
paying the dowry.
[01:42:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Dowry. Yeah.
[01:42:02] Rich Chelson:
You know? And and I didn't know nothing about it anyway, but, you know, I didn't have no $5,000, but, yeah, there's this girl named Mina. Oh, man. She was gosh. She was beautiful. And, I mean, I yeah. I spent I spent so much time with her. And, I mean, we would even go out, during the day on the weekends, you know, and go to Wijiang Bu and, you know, go, you know, different restaurants, walk around the the market and stuff like that. I mean, it was great. And, I mean, we were just hanging out with each other talking. And, I mean, she could talk English pretty well.
You know? I just I just didn't have the money. Otherwise, yeah, I would have married her, but it it was not in the cards.
[01:42:58] Duuude-Ron :
Bummer. Bummer. Right? Womp womp. Yeah.
[01:43:04] Rich Chelson:
Because, yeah, it just yeah. It was it was just I don't know. It was cool. And and, like, yeah, that guy Kim, he was cool as shit. And, you know, if if I I was willing to talk to a girl and and I knew where he was at, I'd get him over and, Hey, what's he saying? Translate for me. And he would. That's the thing he would. I mean, he was cool. He was cool like that. I was like, fuck, yeah. I'm like, just a couple beers is all. Right? I'm like, dude, I'm I'm buying, man. I'm buying. It's it's all me, man. Oh, yeah. He was yeah. He was cool.
I never knew what happened to him after I left South Korea.
[01:43:54] Bryan Goodwin:
What is it that what is that place? I think it's called Together We Serve.
[01:44:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:44:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I'm on it. Have you have you checked them, you checked to see if you can find them through there?
[01:44:08] Rich Chelson:
I haven't added my, my, South Korea stint yet. I've done my fort my, Fort Raleigh Oh, okay. And everything, and I haven't found anyone from there yet. But, I need to add my, South Korea time in there and everything, especially since Camp Stanley's closed. So
[01:44:35] Duuude-Ron :
I think Casey's even closed now.
[01:44:38] Rich Chelson:
No. Casey's still open last I heard. That was from Dalton, my nephew. You know Dalton?
[01:44:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Dalton said,
[01:44:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Camp Casey is last time he knew was and that was a few years back. It was still open. I'm looking real quick.
[01:45:04] Duuude-Ron :
I remember in oh, when the hell did I go to Korea for, a maneuver?
[01:45:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's still I
[01:45:18] Duuude-Ron :
was at I was at Fort Still and had to go over for, what the hell was that called? They did it every year. It was a core exercise.
[01:45:31] Rich Chelson:
Over in Korea?
[01:45:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:45:36] Rich Chelson:
God. What was that? Because I was involved in that at least once.
[01:45:44] Duuude-Ron :
And what was it? Like, 2 year like, something like o o one or something like that. They had a real bad, typhoon come through that area. And that creek that creek that is in Camp Casey, the division headquarters or the that chow hall that was right, next to the creek, I don't know if you remember that one. It had the, the 2 ID patch painted on the roof. I think I I don't know if you I I don't know if you remember it, but, I I think it was 2,001. That creek, the only thing that you could see, from that mess hall was the roof.
Everything else was underwater.
[01:46:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, wow. It was basically had a lot of soup from that from that particular mess hall.
[01:46:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Lot lot of thinned out soup, did you know? It was kinda like what happened up in, Chimney Rock that came through, Camp Casey and basically washed Tong Deshaun away. Right. The only thing that was left in TDC were this building structures. And half actually, half of those were gone because of, that river that went through Camp Casey was so swollen and looked just like, that river up there by, Chimney Rock up in North Carolina. Yeah. K.
[01:47:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. It says it says, say a Stanley was 30 miles from the DMC. I knew I knew we were close because I knew our one o nines could reach into North Korea from from from base. So but, yeah, it's it says it's closed and is no longer inhabited by the United States, the ROK, or any other military entity. Oh. Yeah. It was home to 8th of the 8th Field Artillery.
[01:48:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I was 50th I was 58th down there at KC.
[01:48:09] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. I was yeah. Yeah. It was 8th of the 8th.
[01:48:15] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Yeah. Because, actually, I was with 1st of the 5th Infantry Battalion, but 5th of the 8th artillery battalion supported that brigade.
[01:48:30] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:48:31] Duuude-Ron :
I don't remember what the brigade was. And no. Yeah. And I had my, Catoosa. His last name was Kim. Every time he went home, he was a I tell you what, the best soldier one of the best soldiers I ever had in 21 years of the military was that, Republic of Korea, Catoosa. Every time he went home, his his mom would cook me food. My god. You talk about having food for a week, and this was every month. He would come back with a freaking Tupperware container that was like about, oh, 12 inches long, 6 inches wide, 4 inches deep with, what are those?
Seaweed, what the seaweed rice rolls? What the fuck are they called?
[01:49:38] Rich Chelson:
Kelp rolls, ain't they? Yeah. Kelp.
[01:49:43] Bryan Goodwin:
No.
[01:49:46] Duuude-Ron :
Not sushi. Oh, fuck.
[01:49:49] Bryan Goodwin:
California rolls.
[01:49:51] Rich Chelson:
No. Not in Korea, dude.
[01:49:55] Bryan Goodwin:
I I'm trying here.
[01:49:58] Rich Chelson:
I mean, nice try, man. Honestly, nice nice effort.
[01:50:02] Duuude-Ron :
Kimbap. Yeah. I
[01:50:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I Kimbap is what it's called.
[01:50:06] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. I'll get a whole thing. For a That still don't sound right.
[01:50:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, sweat it sweat it come up. Say a gimbap. It's a seaweed rice roll.
[01:50:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Gimbap. Yeah. I would get a whole container of that from his mom.
[01:50:27] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:50:29] Duuude-Ron :
And this was like and every month was something new. But I tell you what, the best thing that I ever had over what the hell would was that midnight food that we always went and got? Yeah. Damn. What the fuck were those things called?
[01:50:45] Rich Chelson:
See, I don't know because normally I was passed out drunk by then. Yeah. I would believe that. It was it well well, if if I wasn't, I was either eating dried squid or, ramen noodles.
[01:51:01] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:51:02] Rich Chelson:
Fresh ramen. And I ain't talking that that shit.
[01:51:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yaki Mandu. Yaki Mandu. That's what we had. Yaki Mandu. Oh, shit. I'd have to Yaki Mandu what?
[01:51:21] Rich Chelson:
That's what it's called. It's it's ground beef and vegetables.
[01:51:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:51:27] Rich Chelson:
That's that's about all it is. Ground vegetables. So, I mean, it's well, okay. Wait. A a cabbage, carrots, green onions, onions, ground pork, and a few different seasonings. And it's stir fried. And then, say, mixed in with the meat and the vegetables and the seasonings, and then you wrap it into, pastries. And
[01:51:58] Duuude-Ron :
and, And deep fry them. Yeah. Deep fry
[01:52:01] Rich Chelson:
them. Yep. Yep. Okay. So so I'm being honest. And you see this thing, that's exactly what's funny because, dude, what you just said, yaku mandu, ain't most anybody that hears those words like, oh, that's nasty. I'm never gonna try that. And, basically, guess what? Y'all have had it at home. You just didn't know it was called by a different name.
[01:52:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You didn't know it was called yaku ndu.
[01:52:31] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:52:32] Duuude-Ron :
Or fry or, you know, or, fried squid.
[01:52:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I don't I don't think there's much dried squid up up here in America. I could be wrong.
[01:52:45] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I could be wrong. Well, no. We did a lot of fried squid, but no dried squid.
[01:52:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We had fried. Yeah. No. We had fried. Yaki mandu and fried squid.
[01:52:58] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. No. I was I was I was at my, I I can't remember the name of the bar. I can see it. I I mean, I can see it right here in my head. But, I was in there drinking and, mama's son I I I was wanting something to eat. And, mama's son was like, here, try this. I'm like, what is it? She's like, just try it. Do you like it? And I'm sitting here looking at it, and it's pink, you know, and it's dried, you know. And, I just like so I took a bite and I'm like, that's not too bad. I finally asked her what it was. She said, it's dried squid. I'm like, really?
I tore off another hunk of it. I I'm I'm gonna eat it up. You know? I mean, it wasn't too bad. It did taste a little fishy.
[01:53:50] Duuude-Ron :
But Oh, you think?
[01:53:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Just a little bit.
[01:53:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You think?
[01:53:58] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. It was it was it was cool. I mean, you say that's the thing. You know? True. Yeah. Sometimes I am I am kind of, apprehensive, and it's still okay. Okay. I I had to check the time. It's still early enough for me to use that halfway big word. But, sometimes I am apprehensive about trying new foods just because I don't know what's in them and crap like that. But, yeah, you know, when I get to drinking, there ain't no telling what I'm willing to try.
[01:54:36] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and it's amazing somebody offers you something and doesn't tell you what's in it, and then it tastes really good until you find out what's in it Right. Why does that why does that mindset change now the way you taste that particular food. Before it was fucking the next best thing to slice bread.
[01:55:04] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:55:05] Duuude-Ron :
And now it's like, you know, you can't choke it down.
[01:55:11] Rich Chelson:
Because of our our upbringing, what what what we've been told is good and not good? And, I mean, that's that's just my opinion, but, I mean, that's that's what I think it is because, you know, like like, well, you spent time over in Germany, dude. You know, I spent a little bit of time over in Germany, and there's you know, I tried stuff over there that I had no idea. You know? And, yeah, some of it didn't even look appetizing at all. I'm like, no. Hell, no. I'm out. You know? But, you know, I don't know. It's just like, you know, you know, some people have phobias about that shit.
And it's like, why? You're missing out on so much of life. It's unreal. Yeah. You know, they're like, oh, well, I don't I don't like pork, but yet you'll eat a fucking pork chop back home. What you eating over here? It's called Mandu, Yaki Mandu. Guess what? Pork chops. Same thing, just a little different in how it looks. You know? It's like, come on now. But yeah. No. I understand I understand what you're saying. And I'm still like that to a point sometimes, but I try not to be. I try I try to be open.
[01:56:36] Duuude-Ron :
So do you remember what the difference is between buggogi and kagogy?
[01:56:42] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Buggogi is beef and kagogy is dog. Yep. Mhmm. I've never tried Rover.
[01:56:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I did not know to avoid any Gogi.
[01:56:59] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. They they get you get get them served on a stick. But Gogi is pretty good.
[01:57:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah. But that's the kind of I love either one of them. I I I know that if I was to get the just a little too too drunk, I would hear just gogi and go, oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then it would be like, this doesn't taste right.
[01:57:19] Duuude-Ron :
What is this? It's a it's a little bit yeah. Dog is a little bit stringier than beef.
[01:57:28] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, I had I went off in, well, in in Australia. We had, we'd just got off the, off the Liberty boat and was on going into Perth, or not, Perth, into Hobart. And, it's what technically is Tasmania, but still, and we go went over and as we got on to, got on land, we walked a little ways and there was a little hamburger stand there. I was like, oh, yeah. Sure. Let's grab a hamburger. That wasn't beef. Wasn't beef. Nope. Nope. It was tango root. Wasn't beef. It and it tasted a lot a little bit gamier than what you I was expecting. That's what the big giveaway was. I was like, nom, nom, nom.
What the hell is this?
[01:58:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, and over in Saudi Arabia, for a hamburger, it's not beef.
[01:58:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Hamburger is not beef. Well, of course.
[01:58:37] Duuude-Ron :
Cows are like What might what might you think it is?
[01:58:42] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. No. Saudi Arabia is is Arab. That's not not, Hindu. Hindu is the one that doesn't do beef.
[01:58:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right. They're they're Muslim.
[01:58:55] Bryan Goodwin:
But what what might be beef? And then there and Muslim. Muslim, you can have beef, You just have to make sure that it's halal, that it's, that it's been killed. It's kinda like the same, it's kinda like how kosher is. It's just, it has to be killed and prepped in a particular way.
[01:59:11] Rich Chelson:
And and prayed over
[01:59:13] Duuude-Ron :
Five times a day? That I know what. What what kind of meat do you think they might serve at Hardee's?
[01:59:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Probably lambs. Nope. Lamb and goat.
[01:59:25] Duuude-Ron :
Camel? Goat. Camel. Really? D e gusting. Worst goddamn yeah. Worst meal I've ever had in my life was a cold camel hamburger from Harley's over over in Saudi Arabia. Oh my god. That was put it back in the fridge? I you know what? That was just oh my god. An MRE was a 5 star meal compared to fucking Oh, shit. Crap.
[02:00:02] Rich Chelson:
That has to be pretty bad because I don't know of anybody who says an MRE is a 5 star meal at any time.
[02:00:10] Duuude-Ron :
Compared to a camel burger? Oh, yes. God, that was gross.
[02:00:16] Rich Chelson:
Damn. Yeah. I I I didn't mind MREs as as long as I got my Frankfurters and beans, everything else be damned. Frankfurters and beans, dude.
[02:00:31] Duuude-Ron :
I liked the dehydrated pork patty and dehydrated beef patty. Those were my favorites. You know, I I I
[02:00:40] Rich Chelson:
I couldn't really I couldn't really get into those. I mean, I I'd eat them, of course, because, I mean, shit. That's what I had to eat.
[02:00:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You didn't have much choice.
[02:00:50] Rich Chelson:
No. But frank oh, man. Frankfurters and beans, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, god. Even just the thought of that right now is just like, yeah, baby. I mean, MRE Frankfurters and beans, and anybody who's old as we are knows about Frankfurters and beans. Mhmm.
[02:01:13] Duuude-Ron :
And the ham and ham and egg omelette.
[02:01:17] Rich Chelson:
Ham and egg omelette.
[02:01:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I didn't yeah. I had so much of that. I did didn't yeah. I don't like it anymore because I had I had so many of them. I will not eat one of those anymore. I'll still eat the de dehydrated beef patty, and I won't add water to it. I'll eat it dehydrated. That was the best way to eat it. Yeah. But they don't eat rough.
[02:01:42] Rich Chelson:
I don't care who you are. That was rough trying to eat that thing without soaking in water. I mean, I tried both ways, and and I could actually do better with it dry like like you do.
[02:01:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[02:01:56] Rich Chelson:
No. I it just yeah. That was just rough. And and that hot sauce did not help. Not for me.
[02:02:04] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? And this is where I and I probably wouldn't have the money anymore anyway. But when I was over in Iraq for, Desert Shield before Desert Storm kicked off, we're still in as a matter of fact, we're still in Saudi Arabia. I dumped out a lot of those, little hot sauce boss hot sauce bottles
[02:02:29] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm. And
[02:02:31] Duuude-Ron :
filled them with sand and sent them back as Christmas presents. Man, back then, I probably could have made a $100 per bottle if I would have sold them motherfuckers.
[02:02:44] Rich Chelson:
Probably could have.
[02:02:46] Duuude-Ron :
I know I could have.
[02:02:48] Rich Chelson:
You coulda chained all that money up, put it in the bank, and not touched it. Guess what? You'd be as rich as Elon Musk right now. Well, no. Maybe not as rich, but, you know, you'd be on your way.
[02:03:02] Duuude-Ron :
Probably so. But, of course, I didn't think about it at the time. Well, you know, because I was a fucking idiot. You know, I'm still a fucking idiot.
[02:03:13] Rich Chelson:
We all are, dude. Yeah. We all are. I mean, you know, it's just it's it's just us. It's just who he is.
[02:03:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. What's the definite what's the definition of insanity?
[02:03:29] Rich Chelson:
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
[02:03:34] Duuude-Ron :
Isn't that fucking a job? Pretty much. A 9 a 9 to 5 job? Well Isn't that kind of isn't that kind of the definition of insanity?
[02:03:45] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. Because the job, even though you do the same job day in and day out, you you are paid to do that job, and that job pays you enough so you can live. So that's that I I mean, if are you ever gonna get rich off of it? Hell, no. As long as you're working for someone else, no. You will never get rich off of it. I don't care what you do. You will always be a slave to your job until you step out on your own and start working for you, which you can do while you have a full time job because many people Yeah. Do it, then you start to learn what true freedom is.
[02:04:37] Duuude-Ron :
Or Well, yeah. I agree with you on that. Or the appearance of true freedom.
[02:04:43] Rich Chelson:
You used to have taxes and all like that to pay to uncle Sam.
[02:04:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's true.
[02:04:49] Rich Chelson:
Like, he has so
[02:04:51] Duuude-Ron :
a very good friend of mine has his own business. It's, he does boats and boat boaters. But, again, him owning his own business, he is a slave to his clients because if he doesn't have clients, he doesn't have a business.
[02:05:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, this is true. But but you see the thing is, he has one thing that you don't have. He has control over his time and his Well, but also
[02:05:24] Bryan Goodwin:
That is true. And another way to look at it is okay. He's got he is working for his clients. Right? Technically, his clients are his boss. And a lot of people will actually go off and say, I would rather just have one boss that I have to mess with than have to worry about a 1,000 other bosses. Really? You could piss off 1 boss out of a 1,000 and still be okay.
[02:05:52] Rich Chelson:
So I have 999
[02:05:54] Bryan Goodwin:
bosses. Yeah. But if you piss off that one boss that that you work for, you're gonna get fired. Yeah. So which one is actually more secure? Having those 1,000 bosses would be a lot better off than having having just the 1 boss. There's nowhere near as much job security as people wanna believe that they have being an employee.
[02:06:21] Rich Chelson:
That's right.
[02:06:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Now does everybody need to have their own business? I personally think everybody needs to have their own business for a couple different reasons. One, they would, anytime you hear a liberal go off and say, well, businesses make too much money. Yada yada yada. Everybody else can stand up and go fuck up. Right. You don't have a free a foggiest clue. You don't wanna know why I don't hire more people? Because the government goes off and wants me to spend an extra $5 for 1 extra purse to hire 1 person. I don't know if it's exactly your $5, but you have to throw a shit ton of money into to to hire a person. It costs a lot of fucking capital to hire.
Right. As an actual employee because you have to you have to they you have to do, you know, what is it? Workers' comp. You gotta have, you gotta have you start playing paying unemployment insurance. You start paying all in all this other shit. Social security because And then whenever you're paying, whenever you pay their workers, you have to sell out security then. You got social security and then your half of social security that you have to pay into. Yeah. Which a lot of lot of, employees don't have the froggiest clue about. So what? Yeah. They're they're getting twice as you're actually paying twice as much money into social security and and FICA tax and all the other stuff.
And it's for 1 person, but they're they're not going to get all all that money back. Hell, I mean, in all reality, the government's already spent the money, and you're just paying them you're just paying back what they took out.
[02:08:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's just exactly what it is. It's it's sad, but and and but but see, the thing is also with your friend. Okay? He might have a 1,000 bosses. Okay? True. But he can set his own hours, and his bosses have the decision. Do they wanna stay with him or do they wanna leave? And Yeah. You know, he can raise his feet. You know? And so so, I mean, you know, I would have to agree with Brian. Yeah. I think I think everyone but if if everyone had their own business, we wouldn't have anyone to buy the goods. I mean, we I mean, I mean, we still need to have people that don't want to do business.
[02:09:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because you wouldn't have a McDonald's.
[02:09:06] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:09:08] Duuude-Ron :
Because the owner of the McDonald's is not gonna be able to fucking service the counter and the drive through plus cook all the food.
[02:09:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:09:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:09:21] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. It's I and so no. I wouldn't say I wouldn't say a job is is, the definition of insanity because, yeah, even though it's the same thing day in and day out, like, for you, it's different every day. Even though even though you drive the same roads, you don't see the same car, you know, twice.
[02:09:45] Duuude-Ron :
So well You're right. I don't. You're right. I don't.
[02:09:49] Rich Chelson:
Sometimes you might or might not, but mostly not up there. So Yeah. So it's something new every day. Even though you've seen the scenery, the overall big picture, you see you see that every day, but there's different nuances every day. And and if you look at those, you'd be like, oh, I didn't see that. I haven't seen that before. You know? And you can laugh at it, joke about it, you know, cuss it, whatever you wanna do. You know? So now I say that's where that's where I don't see a job as being the definition of insanity.
Where I see it is is when you're trying to, just do the same exact fucking thing that you've always done in your life, and and and and you can't get past anything, and you just keep doing what you're doing every day, every day, every day, expecting something to change. You have to change before anything will change. Yeah.
[02:10:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That that is yeah. That's absolutely true. If you don't change and if you if you can't change your mindset, it the situation will never change. Yeah. That's very true. Yeah. Exactly. Uh-huh. And yeah. It's basically
[02:11:15] Rich Chelson:
taking a step in a different direction. That's all you have to do. It's simple as that. Take a step in a different direction and go that way for a minute. Guess what? Your whole world's gonna get fucked up. And it's gonna be up here. But but it it'll be a good thing. 9 times out of 10, it's a good thing unless you're planning to do drugs, and then, yeah, not so much.
[02:11:39] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. No. Not so much. So, yes, that is I already got I already got today. Stay away from drugs. That's true. Because I already got one addiction that I can't fucking afford anymore anyway. So, you know What? Your Jeep? It's called yeah. It's called a Jeep.
[02:11:59] Rich Chelson:
How did I know that, dude? How did I know that?
[02:12:03] Duuude-Ron :
Because I sure the hell can't afford to break anything right now. That's for damn sure. Right.
[02:12:11] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. I I yeah. I know. Right? Yeah. That's that's like that's like the kids want me to go up back up to Indiana for Thanksgiving, and I I don't know. I mean, I can. It's just honestly, I'm tired. I I've been I've been actually sitting here thinking about it for the past couple weeks, and I am just physically I've I've driven now mind you, 10000 miles a year, I wouldn't even have bat an eyelash, you know, 5, 6 years ago. I mean, I didn't because, I mean, I drove that much if not more. But that it's like, I've driven 10,000 miles this year, and that's just from here to Oklahoma and Arkansas and then up to Missouri, back down here, you know, and then up to Indiana and back. And I it's just yeah. 10,000 miles. And it's like, fuck. I am tired.
Oh, yeah. Yep. You know? It's like, I I don't wanna go anywhere. I I it's not it's not that I don't wanna go see the kids or or see Matt and Dee or whatnot, but I just I don't wanna drive. And I damn sure ain't gonna fly and leave my Jeep at an airport. Ain't happening. I give no damn. I'm taking my Jeep.
[02:13:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. If I can do that?
[02:13:39] Rich Chelson:
No. I'm I'm not leaving my Jeep. I'm telling you. And when when the VA was trying to schedule that shot for my neck, the girl I was talking to, they say I was needing a driver. And I was talking to the social worker on my team, and, you know, she said, well, we can send someone out to to come pick you up and take you to the appointment and then, bring you back and all like that. And I said, but what about my jeep? I have to leave my jeep. No. I can't. I can't. I gotta bring my jeep. You don't get it. You know? And she was like, honey, it's okay. Your jeep will be okay. It'll be at home. Honey, no. You don't get it.
I don't leave my Jeep. My Jeep comes with me. You see, that's the thing. People don't get
[02:14:34] Duuude-Ron :
it.
[02:14:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Naked.
[02:14:36] Duuude-Ron :
Especially if it's naked. Right?
[02:14:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. Especially if she's naked. She's sexy. But, anyway Yeah. No. Seriously, though. Say, you you know, people have you know? I don't know. And I, honestly, I don't know if this is even should even be included in this, but I'm gonna include it because what the fuck, I can. You know? I mean, my jeep is kinda like my kinda like of someone having an emotional support animal or, you know, a service animal or whatnot. That jeep, it just that jeep keeps me grounded, you know, because I know anywhere I'm at, that Jeep said, I know I can leave it any fucking time and go anywhere in this United States I want to. And even Canada well, no. I can't go into Canada because I don't have a passport.
But still, I can go anywhere in the u, US. Okay. I'm fine with that. But if I don't have my jeep, I feel trapped. I know I'm I'm weird. And I probably and I probably need to see a shrink, but, oh, well. I was gonna say, yeah, you definitely need some therapy. Yeah. I probably do. I I'm I'm good. I won't lie. I I I won't argue with you. I probably do. But as of right now, no. I'm not leaving my Jeep. I ain't doing it. Yeah. It's just I can't.
[02:16:14] Duuude-Ron :
I can agree with you on that one.
[02:16:16] Rich Chelson:
I love my, I love my Jeep.
[02:16:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:16:20] Rich Chelson:
So say Brian, get a Jeep.
[02:16:26] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Get a Jeep.
[02:16:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Get a Jeep. You won't go anywhere Cause you don't want to drive it. You don't want any, you don't want to leave behind. So,
[02:16:35] Rich Chelson:
yeah. No, you can go anywhere you want your Jeep just has come with you. I mean, I don't, I don't care. Everyone else can stay home, but you and the Jeep are going, dude. I'm telling you.
[02:16:51] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. It's And, yes, my and, yes, my Jeep can go damn near anywhere I wanna take it, Wear a com wear a Camaro, it ain't fucking going where I can go. Or a Corvette, you know, and you can only go so fucking fast on the roads before you get a speeding ticket.
[02:17:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's true. And say, I I don't know. And see, I I can go any place,
[02:17:18] Duuude-Ron :
yeah, in the United States. Now if I do something stupid and break it, yeah. Okay. The last time I broke it, it cost me $1200 in parts. That didn't include labor. That kinda that that day at the wheeling part kinda sucked, but, you know, it is what it is. I'll never break those parts again because yeah. I've yeah. You have to do a lot of stupid shit to break the, drag link and tie rod that I got put on there.
[02:17:51] Rich Chelson:
So Oh, we could give it a whirl.
[02:17:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We could give it a whirl. Now I'm gonna I'll break the freaking Heim joints or the freaking brackets before I break the, tie rod or the, drag link. Right. And there, you know, I was gonna there was a point I was trying to make. And like Brian earlier, it just
[02:18:19] Bryan Goodwin:
rolled out of my ear. Right out of my ears. Yep.
[02:18:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Just right out of the yep. And I'll find it in my fridge. I'll find it sometime tonight.
[02:18:32] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You could go anywhere and and everything.
[02:18:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But it didn't have anything to do with that, though. Oh. But I can't remember what the hell I was gonna what point I was trying to make.
[02:18:46] Rich Chelson:
Okay, man. I I dude, I was trying.
[02:18:49] Duuude-Ron :
See, I know you were I know you were trying to get me to backtrack, but it was yeah. No. Fucking god, I hate when I do that. You're saying the train left the station beforehand, Oh, yeah. And all the cars and all the cars, to include the choo choo, derailed.
[02:19:10] Rich Chelson:
Damn. I hate it when that happens. That just ruins my whole day.
[02:19:15] Duuude-Ron :
No no shit.
[02:19:17] Rich Chelson:
Right? Like, fuck. It's just like throw throw your hands up, crawl into bed, and go to sleep, man. Game over.
[02:19:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I like the memes that I see on fuck on Facebook. It's like, today is fucked. You can't unfuck today. So just go back to bed and try again tomorrow.
[02:19:43] Rich Chelson:
Sound advice? Maybe. I mean, it depends on the fuckery, but yeah. Yeah. I see the logic in that statement, actually. Oh god. We are just so off our damn rocker. It's unreal.
[02:20:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We're all over the fucking place tonight, aren't we?
[02:20:12] Rich Chelson:
Oh, lord. Yeah. I'm just I don't know what I'm planning to do this week. Alright. Well, with what's left of it. I'm not sure yet. I haven't thought that far ahead. Shelley and Jimmy are up at up in Tennessee where I was planning to be. But these guys Oh, so we're
[02:20:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, do your roof? Oh, okay. Yeah. Because you that was this is, the weekend for what the hell is that called? Yeah. Fall jam. Yeah. Is that this weekend?
[02:20:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. It started today. Yeah. And everything in yeah. They had called, they'd call well, they had had it scheduled for the 1st November, and then, they called me and said, you know, something about it was supposed to rain. So they just wanted to push it, you know, to start yesterday. I'm like, alright. That's fine. And I told Shelly and Jimmy, I said, I'm probably not gonna be able to work. And, when I found out for certain, I told them. And it was funny. The first day, they didn't get much work done because they were still a able to get quite a bit done, but they wasn't able to get as far as they wanted to because it was raining off and on, and they had stopped a couple different times.
Yesterday. And, I mean, with it getting dark at 5 o'clock, makes it kinda hard to work late, you know. And so, they just showed up this morning and got it finished right as as it was getting dark. So but so yeah. And, see see the, fall jams going on, well, it started today going tomorrow and Saturday and then Sunday, and it's like, I ain't driving up. Well, it's only 450 miles. But, again, it'd be a 1,000 miles around trip. So that'd be 11,000 this year. No. I'm done. I'm tired. Stick a fork in me, man. Yeah. I got a crude. Not a dull one. Not a dull one. Sharp one.
I might be So, yeah, that's why and and, so, in fact in fact, actually, me and Shelley were talking earlier today, and, I told her I said, well, y'all have one in the spring. I'll try and see see if I can go to that one, spring or summer.
[02:23:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[02:23:17] Rich Chelson:
See, I can't can't remember,
[02:23:21] Unknown:
which one it is. So
[02:23:30] Rich Chelson:
but, yeah, there's still there's still jeep in the coast.
[02:23:34] Unknown:
That's in May.
[02:23:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The end of May.
[02:23:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. End of May. And they're gonna be here too.
[02:23:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:23:46] Rich Chelson:
Yep. That's why you're here. Yep. You're gonna be Until
[02:23:52] Duuude-Ron :
the week before when I say, no. Is Yeah.
[02:23:58] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh. I'll just show up, grab you and your Jeep. Dude, I got a winch, and I'm not afraid to run it up under my Jeep, hook it up to your front bumper, and watch you chase your Jeep trying to catch up so you can follow me on out. You need to come out.
[02:24:15] Duuude-Ron :
Why why don't you just use my winch then?
[02:24:18] Rich Chelson:
Well, you got a lot easier.
[02:24:20] Duuude-Ron :
It wouldn't have to go up underneath your Jeep.
[02:24:23] Rich Chelson:
Hey. There we go. I'll do that then. Alright. Because because you driving 55 miles an hour backwards
[02:24:30] Duuude-Ron :
with your winch attached to my Jeep, that would be interesting to watch.
[02:24:36] Rich Chelson:
That would be a challenge.
[02:24:38] Duuude-Ron :
That would definitely be a challenge.
[02:24:41] Rich Chelson:
And if I could pull that off for about 700 miles, that would be a feat. That'd be like What? That'd be like freaking, Guinness World Record shit right there, dude.
[02:24:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's what I was fixing to say. That would be we would have to find a category for the Guinness Book of World Records for that. That's for damn sure.
[02:25:01] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, hell yeah. But yeah. No. And then, well, Dee Dee reminded me that, honestly, I've forgotten. Had hadn't even looked at it that, cruising the coast happens, right when, stubborn is going on. And I'm thinking, yeah. So what's your point? I'd rather be at cruising the coast because it's, yeah, it's a whole lot more fun. And, yes, yes, I I will get in trouble if if she listens to the podcast.
[02:25:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, well.
[02:25:50] Rich Chelson:
Go ahead, dude. What was she gonna say? I'm sorry.
[02:25:55] Duuude-Ron :
And not only that, you don't have to drive any place for cruising the coast.
[02:26:01] Rich Chelson:
You're right.
[02:26:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You don't have to drive up to Oklahoma or Missouri or Arkansas. You just drive a couple miles down to the road and you're there.
[02:26:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, actually, I could drive a quarter mile down the road and sit at the park where the where the cars come down and park to if I wanted, but I would drive to Gulfport because I would have to go see the the gassers again. Yeah. You know? So, yeah, I would I would have to drive to Gulfport, which I would be glad to do. That's fine. You're right. I wouldn't mind driving. You know, you know, around here, I don't mind at all. But going anywhere, that's just not my cup of tea right now.
[02:26:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I yeah. And me and Brian get to do it every single day.
[02:27:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Absolutely.
[02:27:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:27:07] Rich Chelson:
Say that's the thing, Brian. Y'all? Just jump in your car, swing down to temple, pick dude up, and bring him out for cruising the coast. Gotcha.
[02:27:20] Duuude-Ron :
Game on. Or or or better yet, yeah, Brian, come down here. Just park the car in the driveway. We take the Jeep. Go to
[02:27:33] Rich Chelson:
Mississippi, and we're. Sure. We can do that too. Hey. Yep. I don't care. Y'all just get down here. We have a lot of fun when we're down here.
[02:27:50] Bryan Goodwin:
We'll gain £40, but that's okay. We'll have fun. Yes, sir. We probably will.
[02:27:55] Rich Chelson:
Because, we definitely go into, Bozos. We we definitely go into, the bowling pot in Mobile. And let's see. Hang on. There's, and there's Shaggys. That's well, they got 3 shaggies, but the one I'm talking about is the one out in Pass Christian. And then, whatever else we find. Oh, I heard about a place that that serves an excellent prime rib. I gotta go check it out. It's it's in a casino, and it's, but, yeah, I heard I heard they they take their spices and marinate their prime ribs in it for 3 days and then cook them up. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
I gotta go check that out
[02:28:51] Duuude-Ron :
because Sounds like a definitely excellent meal.
[02:28:56] Rich Chelson:
Oh, man. When it comes to prime rib, oh, shit. I'm like, that kid at a buffet. Oh my god. I love prime rib, dude.
[02:29:09] Duuude-Ron :
That kid at a buffet. Yes, sir. Let's see. Man, you opened that another fucking can of worms, didn't you? Definitely definitely definitely Sarge from Beetle Bailey.
[02:29:23] Rich Chelson:
I've been I've been known to make a few buffets cry, okay, in my day.
[02:29:31] Duuude-Ron :
Man, I tell you what, the best buffet that I have ever been at was a seafood Calabash down in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. And this was the late eighties, and it was almost $40 a person. Wow. But but when you have a buffet that has lobster, crab legs, fucking almost any seafood that you can eat and then also has freaking steak, prime rib, you know, all that kind of stuff. Man, I tell you what, that was an excellent fucking buffet.
[02:30:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, I hear I hear, I gotta ask, Shelly again because, she said her, her and Jimmy go this one. I think it's the Island Pacific Casino. They they have a, a buffet like that. It's for for a veteran. It's, it I see, I think it's like $40, 35 or $40. It's expensive. But she said they have any kind and every kind of seafood you want on that buffet. And yeah. Yeah. She says it's really, really good. I just I just haven't been over there. Honestly, I have not walked into any casino now as god. It's been, fuck, 10, 12 years since I walked into any casino because I I don't I well, 1, I don't gamble at all. So and it's just I don't really, you know, mess with them. I used to. Yeah.
Oh, I loved Vegas, man. I used to oh god. I loved going to Vegas. I'd lose my ass most of the time, but I still love going to Vegas. But that was back when when they still had some of the old casinos.
[02:31:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:31:45] Rich Chelson:
And since they've tore all them down and went to the new ones, yeah, I'm not I'm I'm not really a fan of of Vegas anymore.
[02:31:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and I've been to Vegas once when I was out at NTC, and, well, I didn't have any money to gamble with anyway. But just walking around in New York, New York, and Circus Circus, and that was just, entertaining in itself.
[02:32:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Watching all the crazies, watching just just freaking people watch. Now Yeah. Say say what is it, god. What what is that one? At Treasure Island, did you watch him do the, the pirate ship battle?
[02:32:37] Duuude-Ron :
No. I didn't. Oh, dude.
[02:32:39] Rich Chelson:
Now now that I did like. I I watched it in the daytime, and it was cool, but I watched it at night too. Nighttime is a whole lot better, I'm telling you. You you gotta go see it at nighttime. It's cool. It's cool. Oh, I believe it. Oh, I've seen it on TV. I've just never seen it in person. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen it outside. I've seen it both ways, and it's it's honestly and I mean, it's just it's fun. You know? It's just actually really, really cool.
[02:33:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Watched the fountains at Bellagio dance. That was pretty cool. Yeah. But we just walked around.
[02:33:24] Rich Chelson:
There ain't nothing wrong with that.
[02:33:26] Duuude-Ron :
Nope.
[02:33:28] Rich Chelson:
You didn't go to the glitter gulch?
[02:33:32] Duuude-Ron :
No. Is it that's downtown, isn't it?
[02:33:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's on the end of the strip.
[02:33:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. We were just where, New York or sir yeah. New York New York Circus Circus. Right there where those are at, Treasure Island, Bellagio. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You just need to get down on yeah. We didn't go down on Fremont Street.
[02:34:01] Rich Chelson:
Oh, dude. Because, I remember one of the first times. It it wasn't the the very first time, but it was probably a month after I had gone to Las Vegas and, wound up going to, Las Vegas again. And, I was running with this other truck driver, and he wanted to go to the glitter gulch. Let's put it this way. I quickly learned where every strip club and sex joint was across this country. And the thing is, most of them are still in the same place yet today. They haven't moved because it's it's funny. I can still like like, when I was coming back from Indiana. Yeah.
There's a couple strip joints and and, and I used to call them hootie hoot shops that are still at the same exits that I knew them 35 years ago, and they're still in business. Wow. Right? So yeah. So yeah. And, needless to say, I knew where all the titties were at.
[02:35:28] Bryan Goodwin:
And sadly, all the, all the, all the porn shops that, that I'd ever visited and, and the few, few strip joints that I'd ever gone to, they're all closed up. So Oh, I do. Yeah. Good, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In Amarillo, there used to be the harem and, jaguars. And, of course, Jaguars ain't even there anymore. It I went there just because, hell, that used to be SRO back in, back in the day. And, whenever SRO went out of business, they converted it into a strip, Standing room only. It was the best damn dance club you can go to in Amarillo. Really? Oh, hell yeah. It was it was the place to go. And so yeah. But, usually, we'd go on Thursdays because Thursday nights was the trash disco night, So you got all the all the, all the good dance music from, from, like, the, mid seventies up to about mid eighties, but it was all the, it was all the good, retro, you know, like, like, Cars and, not the Cars, but the song, Cars by, oh, shit. What is his name? Gary?
Gary Newman. Newman. Thank you. Yes. And, so, yeah, you got cars, Gary Newman, some of the, Thompson Twins songs, and, CCCP, and and, and, Microchip live and all those other great, great dance, dance groups or that, played back back there in the, late seventies, early eighties.
[02:37:15] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:37:16] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah. Went and go there and yeah. It was it it was a great time. I mean, hell. Danced danced many a night with many and many, a good looking woman, went home with a couple, 4 of them. So
[02:37:29] Rich Chelson:
A couple, 4. I love that. I went home with a couple, 4. A couple, 4. So And that was Thursday night.
[02:37:40] Bryan Goodwin:
It's Thursday night, you know, not all of them. K. I mean Friday, it was a couple, 6. So but, yeah. It was it it was a good time, but yeah. And then, the, the the the what we call the porno farm, which was the, over on the east side of Amarillo was a, set of, of of grain silos that had big neon triple x on there. And in there, you'd go in. They had a they had a porn shop and a and a peep room and all that that you go go through. And, yeah, that's been closed down. And the and the, the porn shop that was off of, 287 outside of Bellevue. That's been gone that's been closed up for a long ass while. That's the first porno shop I ever went through because, hell, I was finally old enough to be able to go through one and went in there and discovered, oh, porno videos are fucking expensive.
It's like, get your dad buy a new video. There thinking I was gonna spend, you know, 25 bucks or so for 1. No. No. 55, $75 for, and this is back in the, back in the nineties. So, you know, it still is like, holy fucking shit. That's a lot of for damn money for a damn porno. So And you still spend it, though, did you? No. No. No. No. I'd I'd you kidding me? I'm a fucking broke ass kid. I didn't have that type of money. So I walked around and looked at a bunch of boobs and was like, alright. Well, okay. I've been in I've been in a porno show shop now.
[02:39:14] Rich Chelson:
I looked around, left, and way I went. I wanna say I wanna say the first promo shop I ever went into was over in, Hamburg, Germany during Reforger of 88. And I didn't know, I well, I was walking with a friend of mine because because we had to go in pairs. We had been let out to go into town. We couldn't drink, but, you know, we could go walking around town and, saw a sign and we're like, what the hell is that? Like, fuck it. Let's go check it out. And we walk in and, oh, yeah. They had magazines with pregnant women that were naked.
[02:39:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, the weird fucking
[02:40:00] Rich Chelson:
And I'm just like, what the hell? And we're sitting there and my buddy's like, look, look, look. I'm like, dude, let's go. Something wrong here. Let's no. Let's go. You know, my eyes are my my freaking retinas are burning right now. You know? I mean, I was not used to this. You know? I mean, I freaking grew up a sheltered kid. I didn't know I didn't know nothing about a porno shop, but that was the 1st porno shop I ever went to was in Hamburg. Hamburg, Germany. Hamburg is a beautiful city, but that porno shop, that's probably still there. I wouldn't doubt it.
[02:40:40] Bryan Goodwin:
It might be.
[02:40:41] Rich Chelson:
And and knowing my luck, I could probably find it if I looked hard enough.
[02:40:52] Duuude-Ron :
But yeah. Yeah. Google search.
[02:40:55] Rich Chelson:
What is that?
[02:40:56] Duuude-Ron :
Google search.
[02:41:00] Rich Chelson:
Dude, it's like, yeah. Google it, man. Let's go. Game on, man. Yeah. I don't know. I just, yeah. I was I was not I was young and naive. I did not know anything. I got a lesson quick.
[02:41:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[02:41:20] Rich Chelson:
I was just like, yeah. I don't wanna see that again. And then I saw it again when I got my first wife pregnant. Yeah. About that. It brought memories, dude. My mind went back to Hamburg, Germany. It's like, damn, I've seen this position before. Fuck. I thought I left it in Germany, man. But yeah. No. It's it's but yeah. Since then yeah. I'm I'm not innocent. Let's put it that way.
[02:42:00] Duuude-Ron :
Nah. Not at all.
[02:42:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Nah. You can't claim to be innocent and go to Germany.
[02:42:07] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell no. Uh-uh. You're freaking going to Germany? Oh, yeah. You no. You you will come out freaking demented from Germany. Good times though. Good times.
[02:42:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Excellent times. Germans know how to party.
[02:42:26] Rich Chelson:
This is true. Oh, God. And don't try and out drink 1. Do not. Oh, no, no, no. I've I've I had the mis,
[02:42:34] Bryan Goodwin:
misfortune trying to trying to just try not trying to out drink, just trying to stay up with a fucking Australian. And they don't drink, you know, our our our light our light type of beers, you know, a a good lager or anything. No. It's Guinness, the whole damn way. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. It's Guinness. I mean, holy shit. First time we went to, Perth, Australia. I mean, they we'd go into a pub and everybody because we are all dressed in our summer whites. And so everybody's, ah, it's a beer, guys. Come here. And they'd all have us all together, and they sat in there talking blah blah blah blah blah. They, they buy a round of beer. And I'm like, alright. So I'd be drinking my beer, and they'd be on their they'd polish theirs off and be, oh, what? You're not drinking? Come on, mate. You drink on. That's great. And so I'm drinking along. And then I get that one down, and all of a sudden, as soon as I get that one drunk, you know, I set it down, here comes another one. I was like, come on. You need to drink up. And I'm like, oh, son of this. Goddamn. So I got about 3 and a half, maybe half of them before I took a drink, sat it down, and realized it was about to bounce back up.
Oh, no. And I'm in my whites. And so you don't get, you don't, you know, I go into the bathroom as, like, as as calmly as I possibly can, feeling the feeling everything rumbling and getting ready to eject. And yeah. Yeah. That was not a good time. Ruin those pants. Yeah. That's I tried, I tried to barf in the toilet because I, then I wasn't gonna get on my hands and knees. You know, first off, it's a fucking public toilet too. I'm in the fucking all white. Right. And, it's a dark beer. So, yeah, about from just right above the knees down, gotta gotta get baptizing. So, yeah, it was quite disgusting.
[02:44:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's yeah. I, yeah, I I learned really quick to not try and keep up with anybody in their home country. Jed, that's just that's a wrong deal.
[02:44:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Better just to go, I'm a lightweight. Just take your time.
[02:44:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Not lightweight. Not lightweight. A featherweight. That's alright. Lightweight can hold for
[02:45:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? A featherweight, 2, 2a half tops, dude. You're out. Yeah. That's like that's like well, when I was in South Korea, we drink combat bottles of soju, and that was, like, liter and a half, I think.
[02:45:16] Duuude-Ron :
And Right.
[02:45:18] Rich Chelson:
I'm telling you what. And now I got I was I was actually at the point I could drink at least 2a half. I'd be screwed up. I mean, I'd be tore up from the neck up, but I could still keep it down and and half it. Well, think I could half ass walk with, one person on each side and I would be bumping into them. Make it through the gate anyway. Oh, I'm doing
[02:45:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm doing good. Good. Good.
[02:45:49] Duuude-Ron :
I'm doing alright. Yes, sir. That's good. You did. You get through 2 ball or, 2 kettles of, soju sitting down. Oh, yeah. And as soon as you stand up Oh. Bam. Game over. On the floor. Yeah. Once But you were perfectly good, conversation, everything, while you were sitting down. Yep. As soon as you stood up, man Gone. You're fucked. You're gone. Right. I saw that a couple of times. Now I never experienced it because I was not a hard alcohol drinker, and I was usually always the designated walker.
[02:46:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, so do you as the I'd come in. I mean, it's water.
[02:46:36] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it it's still yeah. Yeah. No. No. I I I just never did it. But, yeah, I saw a couple of guys that had it was carrying on a conversation and still until they stood up. And as soon as they stood up, man, passed out and face on the floor.
[02:46:56] Rich Chelson:
I'd be like,
[02:46:58] Duuude-Ron :
too bad I didn't have a cell phone back then with a camera because that would have been fucking definitely the shit to host. Yeah. No. I bet you it sucks being down there on that floor. Don't.
[02:47:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I saw a few people, do that. And I imagine I did that once or twice when I first started, but after I was over there for about 3 months, yeah, I it was it was actually, more fun to watch new guys.
[02:47:29] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Of course.
[02:47:31] Rich Chelson:
You know? Because, I mean, I knew they weren't used to it, and they, you know, they was they was coming over there like, yeah. I can now drink you. Go ahead, buddy. And and we would we would be nice to them. We would start them off with the small bottles. We, we wouldn't even let him go to the combat bottles. We'd start off with the little bottles. Couldn't hang, dude. It it it it freaking took him a while to hang. And and, oh my god, we just left. Oh, god.
[02:48:05] Duuude-Ron :
It was it was fucking fun. Absolutely fucking hilarious.
[02:48:10] Rich Chelson:
It was. I mean Hell, yeah.
[02:48:15] Duuude-Ron :
So yeah. Hell, yeah. And then we're trying to watch them, walk. Right. That's even more funny.
[02:48:26] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Definitely. And we'd freaking have to carry him across and hold hold their ID up so the guards could see him and they were laughing and just waving us on, like, just go the fuck on, guys. We know it's your all's fault. What? Us?
[02:48:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And on Camp Casey, god forbid, if you if you came in the gate at at 12:02.
[02:48:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Oh, no.
[02:48:56] Duuude-Ron :
And well, you can stay out all night if you wanted to. There was there wasn't a time limit. Right. Right. If you missed the 12 o'clock bus, the last bus, Yeah. Our barracks was on the far side of Camp Casey. That was a 3 mile hike.
[02:49:19] Bryan Goodwin:
It was a little bit 3 miles. Well, see, I was get to the front gate.
[02:49:24] Rich Chelson:
I was lucky. My barracks was less than a 1000 feet from the gate to the Ville. So, I mean, I could I could either stay all night, stay with my girl, Mina, which I did a lot of times. But even if I was drunk, I'd come stumbling back across, show my badge, and just less than a 1000 feet, I was already back up in my bed. So I got lucky,
[02:49:51] Duuude-Ron :
you know. Yeah. We were, I think, our barracks from the front gate was easily 3 and a half miles.
[02:50:00] Rich Chelson:
AM, dude. Yeah. We, our front gate our back gate went to the Ville, our front gate because, sale sale went out over there. And believe it or not, don't think that liberals are only
[02:50:20] Bryan Goodwin:
stuck here in America because Oh, no. No. No. They're all over the damn place.
[02:50:24] Rich Chelson:
They're all over the world because they had a lot of them in South Korea. And those college kids, they would come and protest and cause us to have to stand guard around the whole fucking post because they would threaten violence, normally, at least once a month, if not more. And they would lock the base down. Yeah. And everything. So, yeah, it's it's like I mean, we I mean, we had, college kids protest and at least once a month, if not 2 or 3 times a month, and we'd get called off work, have to go to the armory, get our m sixteens, and go stand on the on the fence, which sucked.
[02:51:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And, of course, they they issued an m 16, but no ammo.
[02:51:20] Rich Chelson:
No ammo? No ammo. None. It's like, really? What fucking good is this? I mean, what? Am I gonna scare them? Motherfuckers are gonna come kick my ass. No kidding. No ammo, though. Uh-huh. No ammo. Hold your m 16 and look tough. Yeah. Fuck you. Give me a beer. But yeah. No. Yeah. I learned I I did learn about that really quick over in South Korea because I went in country alone and we got called for that. And I'm like, I didn't know what was going on. And when I found out, I'm like, yeah. This is stupid. I'm like, just fucking post up some guards up the front gate and let them be.
[02:52:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:52:17] Rich Chelson:
But that's not how that's not how the army does things. Nope. Nope.
[02:52:25] Duuude-Ron :
Definitely not.
[02:52:30] Rich Chelson:
I don't know.
[02:52:32] Duuude-Ron :
Damn, it's almost that time.
[02:52:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Yep. We are just about there. Just about. So any other, any other well, oh, one other thing we were gonna talk about and never got around to talking about my last 2 last Tuesday. My adventure of of rolling tarps on, on last Tuesday. Now now Ron understands what was happening Tuesday. I'm sure. This Tuesday? Yeah. This last Tuesday.
[02:53:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The election.
[02:53:11] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Well, it it was that. But also, it was fucking raining. Okay. And not just kind of a light rain. It was a fucking rain rainstorm. And I got over there and I'm what I was hauling was plasterboard. So it's actually lot of, of, fiberglass
[02:53:34] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm.
[02:53:35] Bryan Goodwin:
And and, and plaster with a little bit of sheetrock mixed in there. So it's stuff that's actually they stored outside. So it it was able to get wet, but at the same time, you know, driving that far driving 2 or 3 hours with in in driving rain is probably not the best. And so got all, got over to where I was needing to deliver it, and and it was kind of we're trying trying to kind of time the rain, in between the rain to see if we can get everything undone, and it just wasn't happening. It was just the wave after wave. It would lighten up just a little bit, and I'd start getting stuff peeled back and stuff. And he'd try to grab 1, and the rain would come down again. And so he was just like, you know what? It's it's getting stored outside anyhow, so let's just just take it off. He was alright. So fine. So I go to start taking it off. And, I mean, as I'm pulling it off, rain cut the clouds open up, and I mean, it comes a turd, blow turd.
Damn. And I mean, I would and I could've either chose to just, you know, been pissy about I said I was gonna fuck it. I'm gonna have fun. It was 80 degrees. The what rain was cool. It wasn't freezing. You know, it wasn't a Texas thunderstorm type of rain. It was just cool rain. It was not it wasn't bad. And so I was able to be be in it, but I always thought it sucked trying to roll tarps in a windstorm, trying to roll tarps in a rainstorm 3 times as worse.
[02:55:21] Duuude-Ron :
It was it was it And you know what? 5 because it talking about It never felt you're gonna say that. Couple you're talking about a couple of days ago. Right? Yeah. Yeah. This last Tuesday. It looks like You know what? I missed that, and I heard about it because I was going up to Grand Prairie
[02:55:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh.
[02:55:41] Duuude-Ron :
On Tuesday. And when I got up there, it rained just a little bit from Belton to to Grand Prairie. It rained just a little bit, but I missed the morning freaking they said it was Blood. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I missed that. When I got up there, it was just doing a little bit of sprinkling, and that was it. Oh, hell. Yeah. I'm I missed the whole freaking rainstorm. They said they got, like, a couple of inches in a matter of, you know, hours. Yeah. Like, an hour or 2. So 30:30,
[02:56:19] Bryan Goodwin:
45 minutes. Yeah. I believe it. It was it was coming down good.
[02:56:24] Duuude-Ron :
Well, we got we got that today here.
[02:56:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay. Yeah. We didn't we got a we haven't gotten any rain here. Well, we've start we've been getting rain since the show, but it didn't start until, like, right around right around 7 o'clock. But, but, yeah, I went off. I got my I got, the reason why it it sucks so bad is because I would get the I got the, the tarp off. Got it all straight laid out like it needed to be. Got my flaps thrown over and went to go try to pull my corners. But every time you pull, pull a corner to the middle, you're picking up, you know, several gallons of water. So it was like, oh, you were gonna have to pull it up and over, get it in the middle. And I mean, it was raining so hard, so I had to take my glasses off. So I couldn't see the middle. So I'm hoping I'm in the middle area And then go to the other side and blah, you know, hulk it over and then grab and then go to the opposite end, do the same thing. So I'm trapping a shit ton, you know, about a swimming pools worth of water underneath the, in between the tarp flaps.
And so get those all thrown over and get everything straightened out, and I do the same thing. But now I've got water on top of the, on top of the the tarp, water that's sandwiched in between the tarp, and I'm trying to flip that. So now all of a sudden, I doubled the weight of the damn damn tarp that I'm rolling over and getting that all folded over into the middle. I was wore the fuck out. I was drenched. And, you know, as I'm taking it off, there's water that's kind of pools up on top of the, of the, of the tarp. So as I'm pulling it off, it comes all pouring off and onto me. So I got, I got drowned. I was soaked. I'm, I'm not at just soaked. That was soggy. And so I got it all that done, and I would try to pick these damn tarps up, and I think I almost blew my back out. You know? And I was like, oh, girl. No. That's why I waved the I waved the forklift guy. I was like, here. You mind putting those up on the on the that's the first time I've had anybody help me with my tarps, getting them on the onto the onto the the onto the truck. Because, wow, the stethoscope was turned into about £400.
[02:58:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Not only did you have the standing water,
[02:58:44] Duuude-Ron :
you know, mixed in with the tarps, you had all the freaking water that the tarp itself absorbed.
[02:58:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Absolutely. Well, well, the plastic tarp, so it's not they don't actually absorb anything, but it's at the same time Okay. It just pile you you got stuff that it came on from the from the ground, and then what was falling on top of us. And so yeah. Yeah. I got and they were so and they were trying to get, they had couple other trucks behind me, so I couldn't just sit sit there where I was at and get changed.
[02:59:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't fucking made them wait.
[02:59:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I mean, I'm being nice because I like Jesus, Pedro, and and the other boys. They're all just the the they're they're they're a hoot. I mean, they they just are are just some of the funnest damn Mexicans you ever hang around with. I'm just, it's it's funny because they go off and harass each other with the horns. And so there's times that, that, where when they're working, someone will be trying to get out and they'll toot their horn and everybody else will start tooting the horn. So it sounds like downtown New York City. Everybody's honking the damn horn all once.
[02:59:52] Rich Chelson:
It's. Yeah. But but but, Brian, you had wet drawers.
[02:59:58] Bryan Goodwin:
I had wet. I had wet. I'm I I went hold everybody. I had wet drawers. I had wet shoes. I had wet socks. I had I I was wet. And so I got But, say, that's the thing. And it didn't matter. Because I what I did is I pulled over I got over to right before we, ready to pull out and, and stopped there and jumped in the back and climbed out of, climbed out of my my underwear and my shorts and put some fresh stuff on there. But still from getting in and out and me sitting on my seat to get moved, my seat did not dry out until yesterday. And, like, yesterday evening.
And it's still all set down. I'm I've been, I'm so glad I bought Febreze because I've been spraying the shit out of Febreze because I'll sit down and I'll get a little, just a little whiff of, of sour. And I'm like, oh, oh God. No. I don't need this. We don't need sour mop smell in this damn car. So trucks. Yeah. But oh my god. Yeah. Oh, shit. Rain, rain, rain and tarps.
[03:01:09] Rich Chelson:
Fuck. And I'll fix that to pace it again tomorrow. So There's a way. There's a way. I used to do it when I'm pulled flatbed. There's a way to fold your tarps and not even bend over even half of what you do. Yeah. I saw I've I've seen a video
[03:01:28] Bryan Goodwin:
of a woman who does it, who folds her tarps and she uses a bungee in the middle. Yep. Hangs it up off the side of the trailer. And then somehow magically she pulls on it and everything folds up in a, in a weird way. And I don't know how the fuck she does it. I was, I've reviewed this thing multiple times and I can't figure out the magic she's using.
[03:01:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, there's, I was taught this by an old flatbedder who who had bad knees and stuff. He he had he had learned about this and he showed me how to do it. He uses 2 bungee straps, 1 on each corner. Yep. And and he showed me how to do it. And, honestly, rolling up tarps would take, like, not even 10 minutes. And it's and you don't you don't have to bend over or anything, really. Right. You get done, roll yeah. Roll your tire, storm right there on the deck. No bending. No nothing. And it the thing is, though, I can't really explain it because it's been so long since I've done it. I would have to go back through and remember how I did it. So I I would actually have to do it a couple times so I could figure it out again. Because, I mean, it's not hard. Once you learn it, you don't really forget it. But if you don't use it, it takes a little bit to get back in the swing of things.
[03:02:58] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah.
[03:03:01] Rich Chelson:
And, Sayah, do you run lumber terps? You do. Right, Brian? No. Well, yeah.
[03:03:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Just,
[03:03:08] Rich Chelson:
You've got 8 foot drops. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Eight foot drops. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those are lumber tarps because because 4 foot drops are, steel.
[03:03:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Steel tarps. Oh, okay.
[03:03:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. 8 foot drops are lumber tarps. Because when I ran, I just ran 4 foot drops. My company wouldn't run 8 foot. They would tell companies. They're like because, like like, when we were out there, they would call for loads and like, yeah. Yeah. We have a load of lumber. You need, 8 foot drop. She's like, not my truck. You wanna hold, we'll hold it, but we ain't putting no 8 foot tarps on it. And they'd be like, okay. Have a good day. Thank you. They're like, alright. We don't care because, I mean, the Lowe's weren't paying that much anyway.
[03:04:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[03:04:06] Rich Chelson:
You know, I mean, if if they were paying a buck and a quarter, we were damn lucky.
[03:04:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh.
[03:04:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They weren't yeah. They weren't paying shit. So but so we have extended.
[03:04:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Now that we've extended and I've been I've I've told my story. So alright. Well, guys, we're going ahead and we'll get her all wrapped up. So anyhow, guys, wanna appreciate, and I wanna say thank you very much for all of y'all that are listening. All of y'all that have picked us up on on, on the live stream, picked us up on on the, on the downloads. Great. Now I appreciate it. Everybody being able to listen. Our show is not the typical show where we you're gonna hear us go off and, hawk somebody else's wears. We aren't going we aren't here to, to sell mattresses or or meal prep, programs or anything like that.
And that is because we do not do the advertising model. We believe that advertising is a is a form of censorship. If we say something the the the, sponsor doesn't like, sponsor's gonna pull their money, and then we're broke. So what we do is we actually say thank you to you. You are our our lifeline to be able to help keep this show going. So we provide a a formula that is called a value for value, formula, which means we provide value. You pay you give us what you think the value is. And there are 3 different styles of paying back at value. You can do time. You can spend time helping us to edit a show or or help us to lay out chapters, things like that.
You can also do, talent. So if you're good at, like, graphic design or you see our website and you're going, dude, you gotta have a better website. You wanna set up set up a website for us? Would love for you to do that because that's, again, showing value. You're helping us out so that you're do donating your time and your talent creating a website for us. And then or you can also do treasure, which is kinda what we're doing right, what we're asking about right now is you doing the the treasure, you can if you have a podcasting 2.0 style app, that means that one, you were able to hit, see, get a notification that we went live.
And when we went live, you can actually, while driving down the road, listen to what we're talking about, and you can hear us yabber for for the 3 hours that we talk. Or you could also on, like, podcast guru, Podverse, and some of the others, they have what's called a, they're able to recognize the funding tag, and you can hit that and you can actually send us a fiat donation, which is just the little green certificates of appreciation that, that, we have available around here in the US. You can send us money through PayPal, and that'll bring that up. Or you can also send us, Satoshis, which is and that is a couple different ways. You can do it by boostagram or by streaming Satoshis.
And you get to choose the value you wanna send. Do you think we're, you know, we're worth, you know, $10,000? God bless you. I'm glad you think that we provide that type of value. Or you think we're worth $10? Again, God bless you. I'm glad you think we're worth that type of value. We try to provide enough value for you and hopefully that you are willing to, to wanna return the value to us. And so that's the that's the epitome of what it is we do. And it is the a fun little experiment that we are running because this is what we're actually doing is we're showing people this is what guys do when we're get when we get together, we sit around and talk. We talk bullshit. And, yeah, we are often very add. Well, I mean, we will talk about one thing for 5 minutes and that'll lead us off to another little thing that we'll talk about for 2 and a half minutes. Then we'll come back over to the original thing we were talking about, which leads us off onto a third thing. And then we leads us off to a 4th thing that leads us to the 5th thing, which leads to the second thing, goes to the third thing, back over to the first thing. And we will just bounce around and have a great time just being able to commiserate with each other.
And so that's what I'd like to help guys, see and understand is that you can have meaningful conversations. Guys are not the same as women when it comes to how we how we communicate, how we share and and partake in each other's lives. We do it in, means where we are just we're talking. And that's the most important thing about it. We don't have to sit there and talk about how our feelings are and and how how we're, how we we, need to have, don't get enough hugs from, from our boss or anything like that. We just yep.
Work sucked. This is why work sucked. Alright. What can you do? What action can you take to stop make stop making some work suck? Which is kinda what I was working with on, with with, with Ron a bit earlier a bit ago. It's not that we are are gonna fix anything, but we're just changing, you know, helping share thoughts with each other to come to a come to a new thought that might be more more satisfactory and beneficial for each other. So that's, that's kind of as a as a theory, that's how how we are running the show. And we've tried several different formats and found us just talking bullshit for the majority of the time actually is easier. We've tried planning things out and everybody come up with, you know, 2 or 3 different topics that we talked about and just go through those. And sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
And sadly for me, it would just eventually would devolve into politics and that would cause everybody to fall off. And so, yeah, we we try to avoid politics, but again, we were we we still have a, have a little bit of a of a a cheering moment and, and slight gloat fest that we wanted to do with, with the, the winning of of Donald j Trump. And so, yeah, we started the show off with a little bit of that and hopefully didn't go overboard with it. But at the same time, if we did, we did. It won't happen next week. So, but anyhow, so we're, that's what, that's what this show is about. And, just if you anything about this show that you liked and you wanna share it out, please share this out with your with your buddies, your friends, Play it on, while you're out out at work. Maybe you've got an MP 3 player that you, that you bring along.
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[03:12:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, actually, shit, you covered everything. I'm good. Bye, everybody. No. I was I I don't know where the hell that came from, but that that just I just yeah. Okay. Never mind. I'll shut up about it. Anyway, I just wanna thank everybody for listening and, who's downloading our freaking podcast. It it just I love it. I I love it that people come to visit us every week whether well, I don't know if if if they're coming live or not, but at least I know by the downloads, we are people are showing up every week to listen to us and probably laugh laugh at us like crazy or laughing with us. I don't know. I would say more more than likely laughing at us because, yeah, we do, as Brian said, go down many, many rabbit holes.
And, yeah, we tried the the scheduling thing, and that didn't work out too well because, yeah, our minds our minds don't work like that. So, I mean, hell, you know, you've got 1 navy guy and 2 army guys. Come on now. Our minds are never gonna be close to the same. Nope. Right? But now, anyway, I just, yeah. Like and also like like, Brian was saying, you know, if you wanna help out with with chapter art, you know, the, the gift for the chapters or whatever. I don't know what the hell I'm saying. I know what I wanna say, but but I don't know if I'm saying it right. But either way, you know, reach out to us, [email protected] atgmail.com.
And, we would love to have you help. And, yeah, we'll we'll try and, you know, I'll give something back to you and everything. We would very much appreciate it because this show is for you. It's not for us. We've been doing this for quite a damn while before we ever made this a podcast. So, I mean, for us, this is just old home week every week, which we love anyway. So we're just doing this out, you know, to, you know, make you laugh, cry, moan, groan, yell, scream, whatever. We don't care. Just as long as you keep coming back and bring your friends. That's about as that's about all I got for this week, I guess.
[03:15:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. And, Ron, what do you get?
[03:15:24] Duuude-Ron :
You know, you guys basically have covered everything that I could think about saying. Again, appreciate everybody listening, especially to this week's Ron's hour of gloom and doom. So, you know, sorry, Dar, you know, if you have pity for me, you know, pay that's great. Let me know. Or tell If you're a lawyer in Texas and you'd like to provide services for Ron, let us know. Or I'll bother you. Tell yeah. There is no problem. Would be better. Yeah. Yeah. And or just tell Ron to shut the fuck up and, you know, man up and get the fuck over it. You know? So but yeah. Appreciate everybody listening, and I hope everybody has enjoyed their time listening to us, ranting and raving and just, like Rich said, going down a lot of rabbit holes.
Absolutely. Pretty much my, take on it. Alright.
[03:16:27] Bryan Goodwin:
So so alright. Well, guys, I wanna say thank y'all again for for listening. Thanks for for giving us, the time to, to entertain you in in some weird, odd, strange, bizarre way and, and allowing us to spend this time with you. So anyhow, guys, we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna wrap this up. Rich, dude, honestly, love having both of y'all on the show every week. So, till we'll see each other next Thursday. We'll be live again at around 7 o'clock. So, guys, with that, y'all take care. We'll catch y'all next week. Bye.
[03:17:04] Rich Chelson:
Peace out.
[03:17:06] Bryan Goodwin:
See y'all later. Alright, guys. We'll catch y'all next week. Alright. Be safe. Bye. Bye.
[03:17:12] Rich Chelson:
Bye.
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets and a dude. This is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sincere and our thoughts together to show folks that we're living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan, Rich, and the duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
I'm gonna bring that up. Matthew 7 verses 3 through 5. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, let me take the speck out of your eye when all the time there's a plank in your eye? You hypocrite. First, take out the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from brother's eye.
[00:01:07] Bryan Goodwin:
There he is. There's mister Brian. Yeah. I am here.
[00:01:13] Rich Chelson:
I have been educating the anybody who is listening, which I think is 0, but
[00:01:21] Duuude-Ron :
I have been
[00:01:22] Rich Chelson:
educating I I don't know myself, I guess. I don't I don't know. So
[00:01:31] Bryan Goodwin:
So what have you been educating the people on?
[00:01:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, I think I met my first brokenhearted liberal today.
[00:01:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Good. Because that was one of the things I was hoping we get to talk about is all of the, the the disheartenment that is, that is happening across the, this glorious nation of ours. So Well, well, see And I and I know we're not supposed to talk about politics, but I think we're gonna break the rule that make an exception for for this show, for this episode.
[00:02:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, at least at least part of it. You know, maybe not all of it. Oh, no. Not all of it. No. It But but no. The reason well, I'll just wait I'll just wait till we get going because, yeah, it was it was it was it I mean, honestly, it just happened about, about 40, 45 minutes ago. So Oh, okay. Yeah. So so, yeah, it was actually actually pretty cool. So, I mean, I I'm not a 100% sure, but I'm probably 95% sure just the way everything went. And and we can talk about it when we get going because Yes. Dude, it was I would and that's the thing. You know?
I had never experienced it. So it was it was it was actually all kind of weird for for all of about a minute, and then it's like, oh, okay. So but, what you've been up to?
[00:03:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, not a much. Just had a really uneventful day today. I they don't have any, didn't have any loads available, so I got sat over in Chickas J all day today. So Oh, okay. Okay. Well I was hoping I was gonna get, like, 2 loads today, but nope. No love today.
[00:03:29] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:03:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, and the rain just finally hit.
[00:03:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, look at it this way. You ain't gotta throw a tarp.
[00:03:39] Bryan Goodwin:
I I will tomorrow. Yeah. But it's not but it's not Well, actually, I won't have to throw a tarp. I'll get I have to un I'll have to roll a tarp. I just hope I don't have to roll a tarp like I did Tuesday. Why? Well, we'll we'll we'll talk about talk about let's see if we can get Ron to jump on. He said he's gonna be might be a little late. So Yeah. No. I know. I know. We might we'll wait another 10 minutes, and then we'll go ahead and really, go ahead and crank on the show and and let Ron jump in when he gets in.
[00:04:11] Rich Chelson:
That's fine. That's fine. But Yeah. No. It's Window 10:15. I you you know, dude, I I learned something over the past 2 days. I I, well, one, it's it was an expensive 2 fucking days, you know, spending $10,000 a day, kinda just get you restored. Okay? But I've got a brand new freaking roof. Already that fast. That fast. Yeah. And in fact, yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm talking total tear off. They didn't have to replace any sheeting, and, I found, the front part of my house where the living room and the 2 bedrooms are at and, where the bathroom is at, that's the original, 1 by material slats.
Okay? 1 by 6. Yeah. It's original 1950. And
[00:05:11] Bryan Goodwin:
So that's back when 1 1 inch was 1 inch and not a 3 quarter inch.
[00:05:17] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Right. And and this this, back part where where the, you know, where I podcast and ham radio at my dining room, I have a feeling it was damaged over the 75 years. And, it it, you know, it had been rebuilt and put back together because on the back here, they used OSB. Oh. Yeah. So so and and so so, actually, this was kinda cool because and and, actually, I'm glad I went with the full replacement instead of just the, just a rescrew because there was, places not many, mind you. My roof overall was in really, really good shape. But there was a few areas that had rotted out, stuff like that, and they were able to fix it with the wood we had taken off so I didn't have to spend any more money.
All good. Right. But but yeah. And and, you know, it was funny because, Chad was a project manager. Great guy. I mean, awesome. I love the guy. He's great, man. But the crew he brought down, they're from Mexico. And, the girl Marcella, basically was their boss even though Chad was the boss over everything. Right?
[00:06:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. But,
[00:06:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I found out I got to talking to Marcella, and she's a real nice lady. Just really nice lady. And I'm just they had made it on pretty quick.
[00:07:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[00:07:11] Rich Chelson:
But but, anyway, you know, these guys and, I mean, there were, like, 5 of them and shit. 1 guy brought his wife. And everybody just got in, worked together. They were happy. And believe it or not, the Mexican music they played wasn't horrible. You know? It wasn't the, the the don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't. No. No. It was not. It was not the hardcore mariachi. Mariachi. It was it was it was actual music. Now I couldn't understand a word they were singing about, but I could hear actual singing.
Oh, yeah. Okay. And I was like, wow. This I mean, I don't know what they're saying, but you know what?
[00:08:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Got a good it's got a good beat. You could dance to it. Right. Right. And, I mean and and some of it
[00:08:13] Rich Chelson:
and most of it wasn't even fast. It was it was just smooth. Right. It was just and I was just like, okay. Y'all can play this all day long and not give any damn. You know? Precisely. And and, I mean, it was just it was just great to sit back and watch people work together. I mean, literally as a team, whether they were on the roof or on the ground picking up, they kept everything picked up, made sure everything was picked up around the house and dumped and tossed and thrown away. I mean, it was like they were never here. That's awesome. I was like I was like I mean, yeah, it was expensive. I ain't gonna lie, but I ain't gotta worry about a roof for about 20, 25. 20 years? Yeah. You know, so it's like, alright. I can live with that.
You know? So so, yeah, it was it was but the main thing I learned about all this, I cannot stand for any length of time. Oh my god. Oh, god dang. I'm telling you. I felt I felt more pain than I could shake a stick at. Oh, hell. Really? Oh, god dang. Yeah. Standing there talking with Chad, you know, you know, watching these people work and stuff. And, I mean, we'd talk and you know, the first day, we was talking about the election Right. You know, the night before. And I oh god. I think I stood there, like, an hour and a half, 2 hours. Oh, shit. It felt like someone just ran 2 needles in my hips and just stuck them right in my bones.
Yeah. And, so I sat down for a while. I mean, a while. Right. And, didn't do anything. And then, then I got up and stood some more, which I probably shouldn't have done, but I did anyway. Because I, you know, I was I was I was enjoying talking to Chad. You know? Yeah. And and just watching everything going on and everything. So so, yeah, I learned I learned really quick that, yes, I can stand at a concert,
[00:10:33] Bryan Goodwin:
but it is not advisable. You're gonna you're gonna pay for it the following day.
[00:10:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. And then I did it again today. Not as bad. I sat more today than I did yesterday. And, yeah, I'm I'm probably gonna be down because because because when I had to get on my roof the other night, my shoulder is still screaming over that one. Really? Wow. Oh, fuck, dude. It's yeah. It's I can't I can't hardly lift my left arm right now. Damn it. Yeah. No. It's no. It's it's it's straight up. It's it's just straight up. Just feels like a see, a straight needle in the bone No. Is what it feels like.
[00:11:26] Bryan Goodwin:
So so how's the dude doing?
[00:11:29] Duuude-Ron :
Dude. Day number 1,325.
[00:11:35] Rich Chelson:
No. It's 9 1,924, dude. You said 1,923 yesterday. I may be old, but I'm not that you know? I'm not I'm not Joe Biden's senile. Okay? Oh, shit. Did I go there?
[00:11:52] Bryan Goodwin:
You did. You did. We're gonna.
[00:11:58] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, y'all y'all look alike, though.
[00:12:04] Rich Chelson:
Oh, damn. That was a good one. Nice try there, hoss. I'm a whole lot better looking than Joe Biden ever thought of being. Whole lot smarter too.
[00:12:15] Duuude-Ron :
I think there's about 99.2% of, the population in our nation. Fucking smarter than that individual.
[00:12:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Well, yeah. Except for the guy who said he's gonna leave America, but and and by going moving to, to to Hawaii. Gotta love our education system, don't you?
[00:12:43] Duuude-Ron :
You know Oh my god. You know, it's like all these, the last time that Trump was elected. Yeah. All these celebrities, if Trump gets elected, I'm leaving the country. Oh, they were saying that this this election season. Well, yeah. But they they never left. And then they repeat it for this election season, and then he gets reelected. It's like, how else can we, invite you to leave? Just Mhmm. Right. Don't go away mad. Just go away. Go away. You know? Or shut the fuck up. Right. You know? Stop, you know, stop whining. Well, I was So I'm sorry that sorry that, you know, Trump has, for the populist vote, 5,000,000 more than what Harris had. And how she even had that fucking many with amount without them being bought amazes me. But, of course, you know, there are die hard Democrats just like there's die hard Republicans.
[00:14:04] Rich Chelson:
Right. But but Yeah. Now, actually and and this might piss off someone if they listen to this, but this is a true statement. And and and it goes for both sides, not just one or the other. But all votes are are bought one way or another. Okay. Whether whether it's through, I mean, shit, freaking anything, selling merchandise. All votes are bought. People donating a dollar. Guess what? Their vote was just bought.
[00:14:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See, I I don't I don't donate anything. No. Thank you.
[00:14:47] Rich Chelson:
No. No. Same here. And, you know, that's the thing. I mean, see, that's where that's where I don't buy no no no anything that says anything about any candidate. Never have, never will because I don't believe in that because it's like, these people have 1,000,000 of dollars of taxpayer money. The government spends 1,000,000,000 of dollars of taxpayer money. So why do I wanna give my money freely to someone who's gonna spend it however they want? That's gonna take money out of my pocket to spend how Richard wants. Yep. That's why I won't buy any memorabilia or anything like that of any candidate whatsoever.
And and just in case anybody's wondering, I'm fucking Republican. I don't care. I'll tell you.
[00:15:49] Duuude-Ron :
Well, and guess what? So am I. And the only way that I would wear a MAGA hat or what does it make? Yeah. MAGA hat is if it's given to me. You're exactly right. I am not going to fucking buy a MAGA hat, a MAGA shirt. Nothing. Exactly. You know?
[00:16:16] Rich Chelson:
Because the way I see it, the freaking government gets gets enough of my money. Why do I wanna give it to a, the, republicans or democrats with, you know, because you never know. I might be on a bad day and be thinking Aileen I you know, Aileen democrat. But, you know, it's like it's like they're full of rich folks. Let them spend their money. They have they have, celebrities donating, you know, $150,000, $200,000. You know? Yep. Because
[00:16:55] Duuude-Ron :
because their, financial advisors say, well, it'll benefit you to donate a $150,000 because you'll get a $200,000 tax write off.
[00:17:07] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Definitely. Not quite. Okay. Well, I mean okay. Dude, we're not going for actual numbers here. As as the it's it's it's more of the,
[00:17:23] Bryan Goodwin:
well, I know it's the aim at sentiment part of it, the spirit of what what is being said, but most of the time, political donations, one, they can't just use it for any thing that they want. It has to be used for the election. So when you give money to that's the that's the big thing everybody was throwing a fit about whenever Biden gave his election fund to Kamala because everybody donated their money to the Biden Harris, not the Harris walls. Right. Yeah. And so there there are rules and laws against that. You can't just go, okay, well, thank you for the money. I'm gonna do this with it. No, they gave you the money for the specific reason.
And a lot of folks, they, you know, it's kinda like, Ted Cruz. I mean, granted Ted Cruz won, won his elect reelection and won it even though the opposing side spent 10 times the amount of money trying to get him do, deposed. Yeah. It's not gonna get used all the time. And if they gave it to a, say a, to the, the democratic national convention, then they're going to take that money and they're going to spend it for helping the Democrat national convention out.
[00:18:51] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. No. I get this. I I get everything you're saying. I understand what you're saying. The only thing is is how honest do you think either side is?
[00:19:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I mean, they're as honest as, as you believe they are.
[00:19:09] Rich Chelson:
Well, true
[00:19:10] Bryan Goodwin:
that, I mean, no, you're right. I, I, I can't and won't argue that point. Because I mean, you talk to anybody on, on the, on the left, side of the aisle and they would think Trump is the most dishonest, evil, vile, destructive being around. Oh, I And you talk to anybody on the left, on the right hand side, and they think Kamala was one of the most dumbest, ignorant, most played just using her using the situation for an opportunity of maybe she can get herself, ahead just a little bit more. Well, that's that actually is sounds more truthful of what happened. But that's what we think. But the if you were to talk to the folks over on the other side, they would go, no. No. She's just wanting to help women become better. No. No. That she could care less about women. No. That's just that's beside the point. True. True. But but see, the thing is, though, as president,
[00:20:08] Rich Chelson:
you can't just worry about 1, one demographic.
[00:20:13] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I agree. Yeah. I agree you can't, but
[00:20:16] Rich Chelson:
You've got so many demographics at once. You can't pick 1 and just focus on that.
[00:20:23] Bryan Goodwin:
No. You've got several that you have to focus on. And so that's why you kinda you go and you talk to the to the Latino population, which voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, when you when you take Because freaking Kamala didn't vote on the When you take the opportunity for them to make money away, they're gonna go to the other person going, hey. Can you give us give us a job? Because that's what, the Latino population likes. They're not the lazy democrat that wants to sit around and whine and get the government handout all day. And I'm not saying all are like that, but you listen to any, any of the ones that were going on the on the on the, the the liberal meltdown train, which is absolutely glorious, by the way, what, is that's what it seems like to us all the oh, the we you may not well, I mean, hell, you've got the, the the, and I don't know exactly what the 4 b's actually stand for, but, the liberal women have actually started going off of the, started doing the 4, side of they're gonna start doing the 4 b movement, which is, which is amazing because, basically what it means is let me go ahead and get it fully pulled up here. 4 b, b movement, but, and b actually stands for 4 nose, the 4 nose.
No sex with men. No giving birth. No no, birth. No dating a man and no marrying a man. Alright? So essentially, now And do that now. So go ahead. Well and no. That's exactly what everybody's saying. It's like, well, thank you. You finally get what we're saying. If you don't want end of June because, you know, they're supposed to be able to get, because they're supposedly not going to get abortions anymore, which is no. It's yeah. You're not gonna be able to get it in Texas. You're not gonna be able to get it in Oklahoma or several other states. Oh, wait. Hold it. Hold it, though. Hold it. The freaking abortion bill was on 13 different states and passed in 7 of those. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so so But they're but they're thinking Yeah. They've been told is that. The the liberal women have been told. Trump is gonna turn all the states, make it a federal deal, and all the states are gonna have to follow no no abortions.
And so they're like, well, okay. For abortions, we're not gonna let you have sex. And everybody's going, thank you. That's all you had to do. If you don't wanna have a kid, then don't have sex. I mean, come on. They stop hook the hookup culture is what is is the one of the big problems to run into. You wanna actually find a good man? Okay. Fine. You no one I mean, no sensible man wants to marry a woman with green or blue or or or orange hair, has a freaking hog ring in her damn nose, has half her head shaved and covered in tattoos. No man no respectable man actually wants that.
When a man when a guy sees a woman like that, she's all he's thinking is, well, there's someone easy I can fuck, and I can have one night stand and not have to worry about her ever again. And that's all. And so, no. The 4 b movement, they is is supposed to be this radical feminist movement thing where they're like, well, we're not gonna have anything to do with men. We're going gay. Be my guest. Go for it. Fun with that? I ain't hurt my feelings. I've seen enough, enough feminist women and and and feminized women well, fem feminist women who were standing around and they're just wondering why in the hell they can't find a good man.
Well, guess what? No. And they usually have 22 of the 4, you know, items that I just checked off. They usually and all of them seem to have the damn damn ring in their freaking nose. I don't know why they think that's sexy.
[00:24:39] Rich Chelson:
Well, I I I mean, that's their expression. They are expressing themselves.
[00:24:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. They're expressing themselves. They're expressing, hey. I'm an easy lay. Yeah. Right. And then they stand around and go, well, why why won't men, marry me? Because one, you're too easy. Well 2, you dress too provocatively. Men, greatest turn on for a man is, believe it or not, covering yourself up a little bit. You can wear a beautiful dress. You could wear it like a nice, you know, a nice knee length or or or longer pencil skirt that really gives you a really stunning silhouette, women. And you will have more guys turn their attention to you than if you walked in in a bikini.
Yeah. The ones that are walking up to you in a bikini thinking, no, you're, they're just gonna get, have an easy, swing at you. But the more you're being mysterious, the easier, the, the more you're weeding the, the, the fuck boys out, out of the equation. Okay. Because when they realize, oh, well, you're not even gonna let me have a chance. I'm gonna find someone who's easy and the, and the fuck boys are gonna disappear. And you're gonna get the guys who are gonna try a little harder. And when they don't get, when they don't get what they want, you're going to be, you're gonna end up with the quality men, the men who are actually interested in you for the things that you want want men to be interested in.
[00:26:11] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But you can't tell them that because their favorite savior didn't win.
[00:26:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, when it comes to feminists, you're right. Yeah. But at the same time, the majority of the women in the us voted for Trump.
[00:26:29] Rich Chelson:
Yes, I know.
[00:26:31] Bryan Goodwin:
And so there's a lot of sane women out there, guys. That's the, that's the key point. Check this out.
[00:26:36] Rich Chelson:
A Muslim community most voted for Trump. Yeah. Black
[00:26:42] Bryan Goodwin:
All second. Everybody,
[00:26:44] Rich Chelson:
every fucking buddy voted for Trump because Exactly. They were too tired of paying $345 gallon gas, $45 carton of fucking eggs, $5 a gallon milk. They couldn't their babies. They're like, fuck this now, and it's about time.
[00:27:07] Bryan Goodwin:
And The democrats completely forgot that it's how can my life be better? It's not what can you do for me? How can my life be better?
[00:27:20] Rich Chelson:
You see, that's the thing. The Democrats don't give a shit.
[00:27:24] Bryan Goodwin:
They No. They don't. They, they wanna give out their freebies.
[00:27:27] Rich Chelson:
No. Their, their whole thought is what can you do for them? How much money can you make them? How much money can you give them? What can we take from you? And then turn around and give it back to you and and show you what kind of good job we're doing when actually it's your money that they're doing it with. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's that. I mean, I mean, look at their model, look at it over the years.
[00:27:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Let's let's take everybody else's money and let's do something to do what we want with everybody else's money, but let's make sure ours does not get Touched.
[00:28:06] Rich Chelson:
Touched. Yeah. Exactly. And that's like like like I was saying when, you know, before a dude jumped on, this evening, they, got done with my roof, and it was it was late. It was about and they left. It was about 20 after 5. It was dark. They had just gotten done, and, I was gonna make something for dinner. I'm like, you know what? Screw this. I'm gonna order a pizza. I'm tired. And I I just I just I just wanted I just wanted a pizza. So I ordered a pizza, and, the guy's name was Gerardo who brought it to me. K. And and he gets there, you know, gets out and comes out, bring me on my face. I'm like, how are you doing?
You know? I mean, you know, I'm I'm tired of shit, hurting in pain, and, kinda just, you know, but I was trying to be upbeat, you know. And, and it was dude was so quiet. It was like he was like, what the hell? And and he just it I I I mean, it felt like he wanted to break down and cry. And and and and it didn't hit me right at first, you know? And, I mean, he just he just his voice trailed off. You you know, I mean, seriously, I mean, this guy was actually heartbroken, I guess. And, you know, I thanked him and went back inside because I'm like, yeah. I my mind started thinking. I'm like, I think I just met my first liberal who is upset that his savior didn't win.
And and and the more I was sitting there thinking about it, it's like, yeah. Because I mean, this guy, you could tell he just had no had no gumption, I guess, for lack of a better word
[00:30:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:30:13] Rich Chelson:
Of, of trying to be an, normal person because he was just too heartbroken. And I was just like, wow. I'm like, I met my first liberal who wants to cry. And it it that's that's that's first time it had ever I had ever found one like that, you know. Normally, normally, if I find them, they're pissed, screaming, yelling, and will not let you get a word in edgewise. And that's when I just shut up, turn around, and walk away because yeah. I was like, I ain't got time for you bullshit. You know? But, yeah, it was just yeah. It was funny. It was funny. Dude was he was young, early early to mid twenties, you know, and everything. I I didn't see no piercings, but I didn't look that close at him. But either Right. Piercings doesn't doesn't make you liberal or or anything else.
But but it just I don't know. It was just it was just kinda funny that, you know, when it hit me, I was just like, wow. That's cool. I can't help it, man. It just it was cool.
[00:31:36] Bryan Goodwin:
I had never To to laugh upon the the tears of a liberal. So Right? There are those times where we we I actually enjoyed that we, can be actually that cruel. So
[00:31:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And and say and say, that's the thing. You know? I I mean, you say, I don't think I don't think I could even, you know, if if if if I was to have a discussion with a brokenhearted liberal, and that sounds like a major country song right there. I mean, yeah, actually, if you stop and think about it. But, I I I I I don't know. I could be kind, but only so far.
[00:32:23] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[00:32:24] Rich Chelson:
I because I know me and because this is why I normally stay away from liberals because I just wanna call them a fucking dumbass and smack them upside the head. But I know I know that's not gonna help, you know, because they're still they're still gonna believe in their saviors. They have multiples, and they're gonna worry. And and you see, this is what I don't get about liberals. Okay? Now here's something I've been thinking about. Why do people let let, like, freaking Kamala Harris control their lives, control what they think, control what they do, or, well, you know, better yet, even on the freaking Republican side, they do the same thing with freaking a republican candidate.
Right. You know? And it's like, why? Why do people let other people control them?
[00:33:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Because it's easier. It's it it and I mean, and that's the that's one of the big things that I personally am trying to work with on men is just start stop sleeping through life. And that's that's what humans as a as a, as a whole have a problem with. They want to it's easier to just go on autopilot. Let that, something amygdala, not even the hippocampus. Anyhow, you're, you've got the habit center of your brain, right? Because our brain is motivated by 3 things. It is motivated by pleasure avoiding pain and doing that as efficiently as possible.
[00:34:22] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:34:24] Bryan Goodwin:
So if it, it can find something that's pleasurable, that doesn't hurt and they can turn that into a habit, which is doing things very efficiently. That's why you, after a while, you can drive to the store and get to the store and go, shit. How did I get to the store? I don't remember anything about the drive.
[00:34:44] Rich Chelson:
Fuck.
[00:34:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I I can do that going to Ramey's and that's a half mile away. Well, yeah, I could do, I used to do that. You know, I'd find myself going to work and I'd be from Garland and be, and work be up in Carrollton. And there's several times where I remember getting out onto 6:35 in Dallas. And then I remember pulling, and then I just, all of a sudden my brain would kick on to back into, into gear at, as I pulled into stream international.
[00:35:13] Rich Chelson:
That's scary, dude.
[00:35:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, but, but the thing is, is that it's not that I was asleep. It's not that I was, because I was still very conscious. Well, yeah, no, I know. But it was just that the processing power was, was shut down because, you know, our brain thinks, oh my gosh, we can't be using our, the full frontal cortex the whole time. That burns too much energy. If we burn too much energy, we're going to, we, we, we may not eat tonight. And if we don't eat tonight, we may starve. Right. And so it it that's pain. So it's avoiding pain by going off and going, you know what? Use as little energy as possible.
And so we do. We lure use as little energy possible. We sit on the couch. We turn on the television, and we just sit there and stuff our face because it's very pleasurable to put food in our mouth. It's very pleasurable to sit on a comfortable couch. It's very pleasurable to get the serotonin and dopamine from the television. Plus you have your phone in your hand, which gives you a little more serotonin and dopamine. So you've got all this, all good stuff happening and you're not, brain's not actually doing any thoughts. Well, this is true. And then they wonder they've done that for 10 years in a marriage, and then they wonder why their wife is discontent, was so discontent with them.
Why their kids don't really come to them for any problems. They wonder why they haven't gotten anything done in their life. Because eventually they find themselves at 40 years old going, fuck, what have I done? And we had the midlife crisis. That's what the midlife crisis says is you wake up going, shit. I have not done anything Right. With my life for the past 20 years. What happened? You're mad. And so, yep, you get everybody doing going in blind panic.
[00:37:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but you see, that's the thing. And and I've been like this before, but, I mean, I've crawled out of it for the most part. I I still go away in the kiddie pool. Oh, yeah. Wow. You know? But but I don't stay in the kiddie pool that often. Right. See, that's the thing a lot of people
[00:37:28] Bryan Goodwin:
a lot of men well, women too. But No. No. Women are I mean, they do the same thing. They they do their their thing. They get home. They pop open a a a bottle of wine. That's a good question. Don't examine beer. How well that bottle of wine why they open the bottle of wine. They don't even examine that. Same as guys. They, you know, they pour themselves, pop open a can of beer or a bottle of beer and sit on the couch. Don't think why do they open the can the open that beer up. I had a busy day. How did you have a busy day? And how is that beer helping you have a non busy day?
It is the I don't want joy that you're pr the satisfaction that you get from that that alcohol.
[00:38:16] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:38:17] Bryan Goodwin:
And it doesn't actually provide any help. It doesn't provide any goodness for you. It doesn't provide anything for you other than it may give you, get you a little tipsy and it pisses off. It pisses your wife off because now all of a sudden you just wreak a beer while you're trying to smooch on her.
[00:38:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. And see, that's the thing, though, and that's where that's where that's where people need to learn how to, you know, get away from that or or do it less. I'm not saying I'm not saying totally cut it out of your life. I mean, it's better if you do. But but if, you know, if you cut it back extremely hard, your life will be so much better and so much more fulfilled than, you know, and and you can actually have an intelligent conversation with people and not sound like a Neanderthal.
[00:39:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Well, and if you cut alcohol completely out of your life, and that's what you're always going to, the funny thing is is that all you're left with are the thoughts is the why. And if you can get through all the bullshit your brain throws at you be with the thoughts of, well, I like it. It helps me unwind. It tastes good. It helps me relax. These are all bullshit answers.
[00:39:37] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[00:39:38] Bryan Goodwin:
When you get to the root of it, of whatever type and it's usually some type of form of shame, fear, resentment, or regret. Yep. Some type of disempowering emotion or some type of of fear based emotion, which, I mean, disempowered emotion is also all emotions are either love or fear based, but, they're all fear based emotions, but you've got, you know, it's afraid, oh, I'm my wife is gonna leave me. You know? We've got that type of fear or I am just not good enough. I'm not adequate enough. There is some type of shame, mixed in there, with it. And so to drown that though that thought, that unpleasant thought out, people turned to alcohol
[00:40:25] Duuude-Ron :
or Yeah. Turned to food or turned to video games or turned to,
[00:40:30] Bryan Goodwin:
you know Turn to porn. Porn.
[00:40:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Turn turn to a crutch. Yeah. That is that is noninvasive.
[00:40:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Yeah. I call those buffers.
[00:40:42] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right.
[00:40:44] Bryan Goodwin:
That's a good And so it we but allows us to just stay sleeping instead of waking up waking ourselves up and going, well, what is making my life so damn awful? Why am I not happy? Well, first off, you're not happy because life is 5050. Half of it's gonna be pain, half of it's gonna be pleasure. The moment you realize that, you find yourself a whole lot happier. Well, something I read on Facebook today on my feed. Right?
[00:41:13] Rich Chelson:
And it said it said Okay. Life is hard for years until it becomes easy.
[00:41:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And that's when you change your view of what the resistance, what are you resisting?
[00:41:30] Rich Chelson:
Exactly.
[00:41:30] Bryan Goodwin:
When you stop resisting and accept the fact that there's things in life, that's gonna suck. When you stop resisting the fact that, oh, this is gonna this is hard. This is terrible. Yeah. Congratulations. You're doing some hard stuff. You're being a human.
[00:41:46] Rich Chelson:
And and when you stop, and freaking realize that you're gonna fucking fail and you're not perfect, things would get easier. Yeah.
[00:41:57] Bryan Goodwin:
You take that learn that failure as meaning, hey, it's time to see why I failed. Examine that, do an after action review. Right. Change something and try again.
[00:42:10] Rich Chelson:
Yep. And if I don't, but And be okay with the fact that you're gonna fail once more. Right. Restart the process until you figure it out. And guess what? That's life.
[00:42:21] Bryan Goodwin:
And you will figure it out. World. Or you will actually truly fail and give up and turn away. Well, true. And when you truly give up and you lay whatever it is that you're, you're, that's bothering you down and you refuse to ever address it ever again. That's when you fail, you stop following your dream because, oh, it's just too hard. You truly failed. Yep. The failures of the, along the way, we're just learning opportunities. You change, you, you look, you change trajectory, you, you recalibrate and you try again. If you stop completely and just say, never mind. I'm taking my toys. I'm going home. You're being the victim.
You're essentially just being a bitch. You're packing shit up, and you're going home because it's too hard. Pretty much. And that's It don't have to be that way. No. It does not have to be that way at all. No. You can actually be okay with the fact that, oh, goddamn, this sucks. You can, as it's been said, embrace the suck.
[00:43:42] Rich Chelson:
You know? Yes. And, you know, it's funny. I I I also freaking I'm I mean, yes. It's that's a perfectly acceptable term, especially in this conversation. But at the same time, I totally hate that too because Why? I I it I well, because, you know, that's the thing. You know? I'm always embracing the suck at at at one point of time in the day every day. Yeah. And it's like and and it's like it's like yes. I know. And and I've even you know, when well, the other night when when I had to get up on my roof and I'm fucking I'm I mean, that's the first time I'd been on a fucking ladder in a long time. And I couldn't hardly walk up the fucking ladder because my hips were, you know, I felt like I had fucking needles stabbing me and Right. My shoulder and everything. And I and I just freaking got pissed at myself because I was like, goddamn, I fucking hurt.
You know, I'm screaming because my shoulder's fucking hurting. And I fucking just looked at myself. I said, shut the fuck up, Justin, and just get it done. Get it done. Get it out of the way. You know, basically saying embrace the suck. You know, and and it's like and it's like, fuck you, you know. Yeah. I'm sitting here having a fight with myself on top of my roof. On top of my roof. In the fucking dark. Arms. Yeah. You know, in the fucking dark, trying to screw my fucking tarp down. So I didn't get no water in my, you know, house anymore. And it it just sometimes, yeah, I just wanna fucking give up, but I can't.
No. That's the thing. I can't because I know if I do, like like he was saying that that I would totally fail and, oh, fuck. I ain't letting nobody see that of me. Right. Yeah. I won't. You know? I'll die first before I let anybody see me fucking just give up and walk away.
[00:45:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[00:45:47] Rich Chelson:
You know? It just I don't know. I I mean, I I like the term, but I hate the term at the same time. Oh, and I could get it. I get it. But yeah. So, Ron, what do you think of it?
[00:46:02] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I'm just sitting here and listening to you guys, and I really can't comment on anything to tell you the truth. I'm just because I'm just kinda like, yeah, embrace the suck. Yeah. My life sucks every damn day. You know? But as I'm listening to you guys, it's like, yeah, I can relate to every bit of that. And, you know, I can agree with everything. You know? I I really don't have a comment. I'm just like yeah. I mean, I sound like a little fucking dumb individual, But it's like, you know, it would be nice to be able to, you know, have a little bit better of a financial, you know, status in life.
You know? And one day one day, I will. You know? I know I will. You know? But but as far as everything that you guys have been saying, I'm, you know, I'm just here listening, and it's like, you know, that's really all I can do. I really can't comment on anything of what you guys have been talking about. I can agree with everything, though.
[00:47:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. But what what is it about what we said that you agree with?
[00:47:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know, the, the suck factor. You know, just fucking suck it up and drive on. Right. Okay. So that's that's on my days. It's like the only thing I wanna do, like, on the weekend. Yes. I know I have to get up and go to work and do my job, and I do my job, you know, very professionally, very proficiently. But on the weekends, it's like I'm just burnt the fuck up. The only thing I wanna do is try and fucking sleep. You know? I'm just exhausted with life.
[00:48:39] Bryan Goodwin:
So what do you do to try to to keep going?
[00:48:49] Duuude-Ron :
Because of the fact that, you know, there's a, you know, a lot of people out there probably dependent upon me whether I know it or not.
[00:49:02] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:49:04] Duuude-Ron :
You know? My family, you know, as bad as my relationship is with all my family members, you know, I still have to get up and make sure that, you know, hopefully, one day, everything will go in the right direction of just everything, everything in general, especially the financial aspects. Because that's pretty much what tears this family apart.
[00:49:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. No. And I, I could see how that could be a be a a a millstone around a a a person's neck.
[00:50:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Pretty big pretty big millstone. It's got those, 5 inch 5 inch chain links
[00:50:12] Bryan Goodwin:
holding that motherfucker up. Right. So what is the difference between what your situation is versus other people who you might look at and see their life actually being worse? What is what's the difference between what you you've got and what somebody else has?
[00:50:40] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and that's kind of on a double edged sword aspect. So you look at Elon Musk. Okay? Riches right now, he's, I guess, from what I've heard, the richest man in the world. Okay? Hell, before by the time he buy makes any major purses like an airplane or a yacht or a mansion, before that transaction is done, he's already made that money back and then some. K. But on the flip side of that, all these people that I see on they come across my, Facebook feed, and I can't remember the name of the individual that goes out and feeds the homeless.
And those individuals, just somebody living out of a vehicle or out of a tent. And I have a 4 bedroom house filled with, for lack of a better word, stuff. I am you know, should I be blessed? Well, yes, I am. I have a roof over my head. My stomach is full. I'm not living out the elements. You know? And I have a job. So but, you know, would I like to be on the lines of a Elon Musk? Well, yes and no. Just to partly have some of his financial, you know, success. But do I want to have all of his headaches, you know, that he carries, the weight that he carries on a daily basis about, you know, all his businesses.
Right. You know, which is the you know, who is actually more blessed?
[00:53:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, but let's look at look at this. Okay. So now let's go because Elon Musk is as rich as he is, you and him don't quite compare. Right? It would be nice to have his his billions, but you're closer to let's look at somebody who's just a little under you. Let's say somebody who is living in the DFW area and is just squeaking by with $30,000 a year. Many of those people, they're out there living in an apartment. They've got a, hoopty for a damn car. That might Knock knock down. Yeah.
[00:54:00] Rich Chelson:
Don't be knocking the hoopty doo.
[00:54:04] Bryan Goodwin:
But driving a driving one hell of a beater, it's just running on sheer willpower of the driver. You know, they're not living in the best neighborhood. They may be living say like off of, off of loop 12 on Buckner Boulevard. And in one of those apartments, I used to live in one of those apartments right off of Buckner Boulevard. Wouldn't deliver pizza after 5 o'clock. This place was in rough, But the difference between those people and actually back when I was at at that stage, whenever I'm I remember whenever I was at moved out of Dallas and I was living in Hamilton making under $30,000 now granted it was Hamilton, Texas.
The cost of living isn't quite as high. You had to drive in an hour and a half to get to a Walmart, to be able to buy your groceries for the next 2 weeks. But we lived in a little bitty 2 bedroom house and had the time of our life. And yet so many poor people also happen to be so happy or appear. Show show the examples of what we think happiness is. They're laughing. They're joking. They're they're smiling. They take life a day at a time as opposed to somebody like you, Ron, that has got the weight of the world on their shoulders. So does money actually bring that joy? Is that the is that the root of the actual suffering that you have?
[00:55:58] Duuude-Ron :
Well, money will get the bills paid. Does money buy happiness? It no, it doesn't because,
[00:56:12] Bryan Goodwin:
But it makes it easier for happiness to appear.
[00:56:15] Rich Chelson:
Jeeps make happiness.
[00:56:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yes. This is true.
[00:56:23] Rich Chelson:
I knew you could get that.
[00:56:26] Duuude-Ron :
You can and you can buy happiness. It only lasts for a very short amount of time. Yeah. If everybody knows where I'm going to on that.
[00:56:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But a lot. When you cry.
[00:56:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No shit.
[00:56:43] Rich Chelson:
No shit.
[00:56:46] Duuude-Ron :
What is it like you just said, Brian, what is wealth? You know? Yeah. What is it? Having a not having very much money, but happy with your family. Okay. You don't get to fly 1st class and go to, you know, Kirk's and Tate or Kirk's and Caicos, you know, every month. Right. But, you know, you find things to do that you can afford but are fun things that, you know, that the whole family can do. You know? So what is what is truly a definition of wealth?
[00:57:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So what is your definition of wealth?
[00:57:52] Duuude-Ron :
Shit. I don't have any fucking wealth anymore.
[00:57:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, but but okay. You just said. Well, what is what is your definite if you don't have any definite if you don't have any wealth right now, what is your definition of wealth? Because you apparently are measuring it on something, so you have if you have no no, no, wealth right now, what is it that you don't have?
[00:58:19] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I right now, just right now in my life, I don't have any wealth whatsoever. I just exist.
[00:58:31] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. I get up every morning because So what would it what would you need to be wealthy?
[00:58:38] Duuude-Ron :
Well, a loving spouse. A companion, a companion that, you know, we can both enjoy each other's, enjoy each other. Yeah. Whether it's holding hands, walking on the bee, you know, going out wheeling with the Jeep, something Rich has no fucking clue of what to do when when that when that happens.
[00:59:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Okay. Even though I was just have no idea I was just waiting. I I was to to wheel on the beats.
[00:59:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Just don't just stop waiting to on the beats. You'll sink.
[00:59:29] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Doing you well. No. Well, as long as you don't you're if you stop where a lot a lot of idiots part stop and, you know, we're within the high tide zone.
[00:59:40] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, well, that's why you air down. And you have an air down you have an air down tool. You have an air up tool, and you actually know how to drive out of that situation. Again, Rich, you know, I haven't well, he can play a little bit on rocks, but, you know, I haven't seen him play on a on a sand. So, you know, on the beat.
[01:00:09] Rich Chelson:
Well, you need to come. You need to come. Yeah. I hear And we will go find a beat, and I will show you what in the hell to do because because playing in sand is almost like playing in mud, and I know I can play in mud.
[01:00:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That you just that was an open ended converse or, statement right there. Man, what I could what I could do with that comment, I just won't do it. I just won't do it.
[01:00:43] Rich Chelson:
Oh, dude. But You're breaking my heart. Somebody Any other time you would jump on the on that.
[01:00:52] Duuude-Ron :
I know I would.
[01:00:54] Rich Chelson:
The moment has passed, man. The moment has passed.
[01:00:58] Duuude-Ron :
And that's fine. I you know, that is absolutely fine. I just I don't have the energy to jump onto it. But my debt my wealth would be to have a companion that we enjoy each other's company and want to be together Right. And spend time together. Even if it is just going for a walk out on the beat. You know? How much how much does that cost? Well, if you live close to the beach, it only gonna cost you gas. But that would be my definition right now in my life of wealth to have a companion that, you know, I enjoy being with.
[01:01:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So how are you going about on achieving that well?
[01:01:58] Duuude-Ron :
Not a damn thing right now. Okay. So And the reason why is because, of the financial status that can't afford a divorce to go find somebody else and, you know, other aspects of, you know, getting this household.
[01:02:19] Bryan Goodwin:
So what would it what would it okay. But, again, these are all you do realize those were all just excuses as to why you're not wanting to step out to get your
[01:02:30] Duuude-Ron :
get that wealth. Right? You're right. There there it is nothing but excuses. You are absolutely correct. There there's, you know, I cannot disagree with that whatsoever.
[01:02:47] Bryan Goodwin:
So what is it about going for that that goal of the wealth that you were desiring, what's keeping you stuck where you're at? Because we know if it we know it's an excuse, so it's not actually the finances that the current finances you have. Right? It's not even about the house. There's something else that's holding you back. What is that thought that's keeping you there, miserable?
[01:03:25] Duuude-Ron :
I can't you know? Unfortunately, I cannot give you a logical answer to that question. What in any way, shape, or form, I have no logical answer
[01:03:37] Bryan Goodwin:
to give you. What happened if what is if you were to give up on on all the money? Whatever the fine whatever you're telling yourself the financials, bits are. What if you were able to prove to yourself that that that thought is false, that I I don't have the money to be able to get the divorce? What if you were able to prove to yourself that that was that was false? How closer how much closer would you be to starting to find the joy that you have that you're that you're seeking? The or not even the joy because you can't actually find all the joy. Even finding if you even if you found the perfect woman that you, were looking for, the one who wants who grabs you by the arm every night time you get home, you sit down to wanna kick your feet up. She's going, come on, babe. We're going to her beach.
Eventually, you're gonna go, come on a damn, man. I wanna just sit here and kick my feet up for a moment. Can I just kick my feet up? You know? You're gonna find that perfect woman, and it's not gonna bring all the the happiness. There's gonna have your like I said, life is 5050. Half of it's gonna be pain. Half of it's gonna be pleasure. So Yeah. There's gonna be those half of those half that time, that woman of your dreams is gonna be a pain in your ass. So what is it that's going got all that wound up, and I'm the point I was making just dribbled completely out of my fucking ear. So but anyhow, what is it how you know? What is it that it's going to, what is the what is it gonna take for you to prove to yourself that you are not that the finances is bullshit?
[01:05:34] Duuude-Ron :
Again, I I again, for our listening audience, I cannot fucking give you
[01:05:46] Rich Chelson:
an intelligent,
[01:05:49] Duuude-Ron :
even remotely intelligent
[01:05:51] Bryan Goodwin:
answer to that because I don't How about a how about a have it. Alright. But okay. So if you can't give a, an intelligent answer, give us just an answer.
[01:06:06] Duuude-Ron :
I guess it's laziness, depression.
[01:06:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, would if you were to able to get what is it about this depression that you like?
[01:06:20] Duuude-Ron :
Not a fucking thing.
[01:06:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Not okay. But so why are you holding on to it?
[01:06:24] Duuude-Ron :
I don't.
[01:06:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Don't say I don't know because what if you did? What if you did know? If I did
[01:06:34] Duuude-Ron :
If I did know, I wouldn't be depressed. Oh, okay. If I did know if I did know, you know, again, I guess it goes back to your statement that it's easier to be lazy and just deal with it than it is to resolve a painful,
[01:07:01] Bryan Goodwin:
you know I agree it's gonna be painful.
[01:07:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:07:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Every bit of it's gonna be painful. And that's what we're mostly afraid of. Is it, oh my god. It's gonna be painful. But is it? And how badly is that painfulness going to be?
[01:07:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And until
[01:07:19] Bryan Goodwin:
you actually do it, you won't know. You won't know. And we are so many times, we are so afraid, oh, this is gonna be just the biggest pain in the ass. This is gonna be so, I mean, she is just gonna, you know, my ex soon to be ex wife is gonna be the biggest pain in the butt. She's gonna demand everything. She's gonna take my take my the shirt off my back and everything, and I'm never gonna be able to escape her. Okay. Then you get up there and yeah, she takes everything. She takes shirt off your back. Guess what? You're free. You're free of her.
You don't have to worry about her. You can buy another shirt. Yeah. You may have to walk around, you know, showing everybody your amazing, stomach muscles for a while, but that's okay.
[01:08:06] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Yes. And if I walk if I was to just walk away and walk out of this house, there's not very much that I would yeah. I don't wanna fucking sleep in the Jeep.
[01:08:27] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I don't blame you there. So bring an air mattress.
[01:08:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I mean, we got our 4 door folded seats down, throw an air mattress in there. You could just get him on, man.
[01:08:38] Duuude-Ron :
You got Well, there's
[01:08:40] Rich Chelson:
AC. You got heat when it's cold, but you don't go far enough north to figure that
[01:08:47] Duuude-Ron :
out. But, I mean Well, shit. When it gets below sick when it gets below 50 degrees, I'm cold. Reg
[01:08:55] Rich Chelson:
regardless. K. Take your Wubi. Your Woobie will keep you warm.
[01:09:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know. I gotta I gotta get another Woobie.
[01:09:03] Bryan Goodwin:
You better get another one. Supply stores. They're everywhere. Oh, I know they are. They're nowhere near as often as plentiful as they used to be. What has happened to the army supply stores?
[01:09:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, I haven't stepped foot into it. I haven't stepped foot into an army supply store in years. We've Probably because there
[01:09:25] Rich Chelson:
Go ahead, dude.
[01:09:27] Duuude-Ron :
Probably because there's nothing really in an army supply store that I need anymore.
[01:09:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, come on. You want some dummy grenades? Those are fun.
[01:09:38] Rich Chelson:
No. We want the real shit we used to.
[01:09:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Go fishing.
[01:09:43] Rich Chelson:
Fuck the dummy.
[01:09:46] Duuude-Ron :
Go fishing with a stick of dynamite. Exactly. Fuck the fuck you know, fuck the chance stuff with a reel and rod. Yeah. You know, let's actually let's not do some fishing. Let's go do some catching.
[01:10:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly. I mean, if we're gonna eat, we're gonna eat right. Alright?
[01:10:05] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. Go get a stick of dynamite. Guaranteed.
[01:10:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Have a nice little little aftertaste of Semtex, you know, or something. It'd be great.
[01:10:13] Duuude-Ron :
You know, that that's fine. That's fine. I've I've shit.
[01:10:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. You know? We do we do have an army navy store up here in town, and I've been there. But they're awful proud of their shit, man. Oh, really? Oh god. They are way proud of their shit.
[01:10:34] Bryan Goodwin:
I guess the preppers have driven the prices up. So yeah.
[01:10:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's what I'm figuring. But, yeah, they are I I mean, I walked in there because, you know, I'll go through and just see, you know, if I could find some stuff from, you know, when I was saying, oh yeah, I can find it, but fuck I ain't, I ain't paying those prices.
[01:10:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They used to be surplus stores. Like you can pick up and, pick up a, a good, good compass for, you know, a buck.
[01:11:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No.
[01:11:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. That's the only thing I've ever bought from a, from an army navy store is I got one of the, one, one of the army's, the metal, compasses that unfolds and has got the sight thing and the dial thing and the and You mean to dial the door? On the side. Paid a dollar for you. I actually I think it's been about, $5. It wasn't much. Really? Yeah. Well, this was back in, like, 91.
[01:11:33] Rich Chelson:
Well, reason I'm saying because, when I lived out in Virginia, about no shit. Almost, what? You know, 5, 6, and I was so longer than that. Fuck. 10, 15 years ago. I went to this one army navy store, and I was looking for, one of those compasses. And, this old boy didn't have any in stock, but he said he could get them, and they were $75.
[01:12:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Holy smokes.
[01:12:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And and I bought I bought one, and and this one was it it was new, brand new, never been used, and it was made in 1977. Oh, wow. And and the thing is So it was
[01:12:19] Duuude-Ron :
so it was actually a, nuclear compass, a true nuclear compass.
[01:12:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So what's a nuclear compass?
[01:12:31] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. The, the glow of the compass?
[01:12:37] Rich Chelson:
That's true.
[01:12:39] Duuude-Ron :
We you don't have to use a flashlight or a light to illuminate Oh, it's got radium or whatever in it? Yeah. Yeah. It has yeah. Urate yeah. It has uranium. Yeah.
[01:12:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. In in that to where Geiger counter was it?
[01:12:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. To where yeah. Seriously? Yeah. It would go off with a Geiger counter.
[01:13:01] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I would.
[01:13:03] Duuude-Ron :
One of those I got I got one of those someplace in the garage. But you can open it up right now. Does that? I can open it up right now, and it would glow. The the numbers, the The dial. North south, the up, the dial, everything that it is supposed to glow will glow without any without any help from a light source. And it'll continue to glow for the next 5000 years. Yep. Probably so.
[01:13:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Probably so. That is wild.
[01:13:36] Rich Chelson:
But but yeah. Seriously. And and that's the thing. You know, I had bought this from this army navy store and, oh, man. And I still have it to this day. In fact, I still use it to this day. Especially when I'm setting up an antenna and everything, you know, and I'm wanting to make sure I'm, oriented right. Right. You know, with with the way I'm wanting to go, I use it. And, yeah, sure as shit. I pop it open and, yeah, it lights.
[01:14:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, no. Mine doesn't do that. So
[01:14:07] Rich Chelson:
that maybe that's why it's $5. So Well, that well, that's why I was asking because, you know, those ones that are
[01:14:14] Bryan Goodwin:
that are freaking illuminated. I I was gonna say, if you got one for $5, you stole that bitch. No. No. Mine doesn't mine doesn't do that. Mine's just it's it got the metal body. It's got a little it's got a little ruler on one side. Uh-huh. It folds up out. It's got the little, magnified, peep hole so you can line everything up, and stuff. And it's got the dial so that you can actually orient for, you know, the degrees and stuff. So Yeah. I mean, it's got all that other than yeah. The light the the numbers and everything on it don't light up because it's not irradiated with with, radon.
[01:14:55] Rich Chelson:
K. What's your name? Now this one this one I got is, tritium.
[01:15:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay. So it's actually got the, the the the, so tritium. No. I'm thinking of, trinitite is what it is.
[01:15:15] Rich Chelson:
Now tritium is, there there was they made them out of 2 different things, and I think they'd switched to tritium because the first one, was, too hot for for humans. Right. You know, because, yes, they will set off a a Geiger counter. And so they they switched them. And, let me look it up real quick.
[01:15:49] Unknown:
See if I can
[01:15:52] Rich Chelson:
okay. Yeah. Tritium half life. Let's see what it says for half life. Says the half life of tritium is 12.33 years. So and it and it actually and it just takes a little over 12 years for half of the tritium to decay into helium. Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that occurs naturally and is also produced by nuclear power plants. It's chemically identical to hydrogen, so it can easily enter the body through ingestion. And it's mostly found in water where it replaces a hydrogen atom to form, tritiated water. Tritiated water is odorless and colorless and has the same chemical properties as regular water.
And they use it in glow in the dark lighting, biomedical
[01:16:53] Bryan Goodwin:
research, and Yeah. Well, they I know they used to use radium, and that was I mean, they used to have that's where so many, they used to have, like, the radium girls, because they would paint the, the clock hands with radium. And, yeah, this stuff was, like, crazy hot. But at the same time, the glass would actually, once the, once every got thing, everything got painted and it got put into the case that actually the, the uranium or the, the radiation from the radium would actually drop off significantly down to a safe level. Right. But sadly, the girls were having to were painting the, painting the hands and the numbers. And one of the ways to get the the the, the the paintbrush to stick, stand up like it needs to, they would lick the, they would lick the, the paintbrush.
And so they were ingesting radium, which is, you know, insanely,
[01:17:52] Rich Chelson:
radioactive. So Now now I check this out on, Amazon, army surplus world, few other, these compasses, like the one I have at Tritium Uh-huh. Are running anywhere from 98 to a 150. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. There's there's a few like like on eBay, there's one showing for 24, but I'm not sure if it's a buy it now or if it's a bid.
[01:18:26] Bryan Goodwin:
But yeah. That looks it's almost exactly like what I had. The camay, camminga?
[01:18:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. But Mine been lined up, though. Yeah. And you can see and that's where, well, you might hear the phosphorescent Yeah. I mean, it may be the phosphorescent, but which, needs an external light source. Right. Buying a flashlight or whatnot, but tritium does not.
[01:18:55] Bryan Goodwin:
But, yeah, that's the that's the exact, that's the very same, same compass that I have, Mhmm. Have at the house right now. The con with the, like I said, the little ruler on the side. And Yeah. Yeah. These are the ones we used in,
[01:19:10] Rich Chelson:
in, in a basic for lab, Land Nav
[01:19:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[01:19:15] Rich Chelson:
When we had Land Nav, of course. So
[01:19:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't even know if they do that anymore.
[01:19:24] Rich Chelson:
You know, on in basic? No. Honestly, I don't think so, but I'm not sure. But yeah. I mean yeah. We, yeah. We had to do land nav.
[01:19:35] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. And so did we? And pass
[01:19:38] Rich Chelson:
it. Okay. Good.
[01:19:39] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. You had to find 4 out of the 5 points to pass Land Nav.
[01:19:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[01:19:47] Duuude-Ron :
And that was in every school. Let's see. Basic training, PLDC, primary leadership development course, BNOC, basic noncommissioned officer course, ANOC, advanced noncommissioned officer course. Yeah. Every one of my schools, I had to do MF. Now my neighbor, she was an admin MOS, and she was, what was it? E4 getting ready to go to PLDC. And I had to teach her how to read a compass and how to read a map.
[01:20:36] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yep. Oh my gosh. No way.
[01:20:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because in her basic training, even back then, they the land nav was not like what I had to go through.
[01:20:52] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:20:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. She did have no fucking clue on how to read a map or how to read Compass.
[01:21:01] Rich Chelson:
Did she? Well, then well, then well, then she obviously didn't know how to read a 6 digit or an 8 digit grid square then.
[01:21:11] Duuude-Ron :
No.
[01:21:12] Bryan Goodwin:
I had to teach her that. Well, no. See, I of course. Have y'all never ever gotten lost with a woman? They're one you'd always ask directions. So why should she trouble herself with a with a map? She's just gonna ask directions.
[01:21:27] Rich Chelson:
It's a little hard to do. What what she gonna do? Stop the local grizzly bear, John, and ask him what, you know, where where now? Well, I mean, come on. That's you know, women prefer to be,
[01:21:38] Bryan Goodwin:
be lost in the forest with a bear than a man.
[01:21:41] Rich Chelson:
Well, this is true. Sad to say, but, yes, this is true. So But yeah. But but, see, that's the thing. When when I was in basic, we had to, not only do a, a 6 digit, a 4 digit. That was god, that was stupid. You know you know, that was stupid learning there. 6 digit, 8 digit, and even we had touched on 10 digit grid coordinates. When you get to 10 digits, you're within, like, 3 foot of of where you're at and, everything. And and, I mean, we had to know that shit and pass it. And if we didn't, guess what? You didn't move on.
[01:22:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. AS mode in and AS mode out.
[01:22:35] Duuude-Ron :
And and know and knowing how to read a compass and a map Yep. May may or may not get you to your destination. If you can't if you can't relate to the ground figures of what that map is telling you, you know, the map is worthless.
[01:22:59] Rich Chelson:
Right. And that's the thing. Military maps are all are all are all topographical, so you ain't got no landmarks to use except for a big old fucking rock. Right. I'm talking a big ass rock, like a hill, a mountain, maybe a creek, a river, whatever, you know. If you did none of this stuff, yeah, you were ass out.
[01:23:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. So if you didn't if you didn't know how to read the the topographical aspects, it it that that map was worthless.
[01:23:39] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yep.
[01:23:43] Duuude-Ron :
And we ain't and we ain't even gonna we ain't even gonna touch on a pace count.
[01:23:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. No. No. No. That's that's
[01:23:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because that would go right over Brian's head.
[01:23:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It would. Brian Yep. Nope. No pain. Would feel like you.
[01:24:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, Scott. I'd be like, okay. Well, let's, you know, take, you know, 60 steps a minute, you know, or something like that. You'll get there within a certain number of time. So
[01:24:17] Rich Chelson:
that's what it sounds like when I hear pace count count. So And and and it is, but but you see, rangers carry beads, and and there's a certain number of beads that they count. And then they know when they get to that point, they know how far they've gone in that in that time frame because you have to know your stride length,
[01:24:39] Duuude-Ron :
you know, give or take. That that's the that's the whole thing. It's the stride length. Your stride length count based upon a true measurement on the ground, you know, a 100 meters, 50 meters, what have you, 20 meters. But not going on a level ground, you have to go over obstacles because that's what you're gonna do out in land navigation
[01:25:10] Bryan Goodwin:
is you're gonna go over obstacles. Going going up and down hill is gonna extend your your your number of, steps.
[01:25:18] Duuude-Ron :
That is correct. So yeah. Walking like you would be walking down the street.
[01:25:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Would be, you know, you may say you walk you're on on a track and you walked a 100 paces and you got, I don't know, you know, however far away that was. Well, you did a 100, if you did a 100 paces and you dropped down into a into a, yeah, a creek bed and came back up, you may end up being, you know, 10 paces shorter.
[01:25:53] Duuude-Ron :
That's exactly right.
[01:25:55] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, I understand that. I understand, you know, trying to having to, to guess your, your, how far away it is based upon, you know, what the topographical map ends up telling you. That's, that would be tough. No. No. I mean, worst worst we had to do is have to deal with, you know, how do we get through a wave?
[01:26:19] Rich Chelson:
Grab your butt and spin over and hold on.
[01:26:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Ah, now you just, you just jump from, from one level to the other, as it hits the wave. Did you go up? And so you jump and as the bow goes down, you'll actually clear the top to the next level.
[01:26:35] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:26:35] Duuude-Ron :
Did you
[01:26:37] Bryan Goodwin:
ask now? Did you ask 3 Oh, frogs.
[01:26:41] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[01:26:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, there you go. Okay. So did you actually prove that Brian
[01:26:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Going to the next level one of the ways? I mean, I I bid it the time I tried doing it. But yeah. Yeah. You can you can actually jump, you know, depending on how high how big of a swing the bow has. You know, if you're out all the way out in the on the, at you know, as far out on the bow as you want as you can be, if it's a if it's a 20 foot, swell that you're going through, yeah, you can jump. You you can jump theoretically 20 feet up in the air. It's gonna hurt like a motherfucker when you hit when you hit the deck as it's coming back up to meet you.
[01:27:23] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah.
[01:27:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. If you don't.
[01:27:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Tuck and roll. Tuck and roll. Tuck and roll. Well, if you don't get that next higher level, which would be a shorter fall. Yeah. You're you're trying to fucking hurt. Yeah. Because what most of the guys are trying to do is they would try to jump. They would stand at the base of the, of the ladder and try to jump up onto the next one. And a lot of times and with that, you have to jump forward and up. And a lot of guys would forget to jump the forward part, and so they would jump and usually it was actually supposed to be we're not allowed to actually do that because too many guys would crack their skull on the on the knife edge of the hatch on the that they were trying to jump through.
So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. So, yeah, didn't save us squids with the smartest creatures in the world, but, you know You just had it. We know what's fun. I mean, come on. With the bubble heads used to have they would go off and, when they were doing emergency bubbles, you know, when they do emergency dives or emergency surfaces, they would, the there a lot of times, they would, they would have fun grab a a piece of cardboard and slide from, you know, the aft end of the ship to the nose when they're doing emergency dives or vice versa when they're doing emergency bubbles. So I never got to witness any of that. That's just what I heard heard they they would do, but still That's a dumb around. I would I would wanna say it, man. Oh, I'd love to do I'd I'd love to do that just once, just, you know, sit on a piece of cardboard and go slide through, you know, however many different, departments.
Alright, dude. You go from the Until you go off and run into the bridge and you take out the captain.
[01:29:16] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell yeah. Game on, dude. We on.
[01:29:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Bowl bowling 45, 45 in half months paid time to shit, mate.
[01:29:27] Rich Chelson:
Hey. Whatever, man. As long as I got it on the GoPro, score them. Score them. It. Because that should've be on YouTube in about 30 seconds.
[01:29:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Then all of a sudden you'd have, you'd have the MP show up and they would, they would take you away because you probably probably went off. It was like that one guy, who didn't even show anything, classified, but he, he ended up getting arrested because he showed the inside of the suffering, like where he was, where he was sleeping.
[01:30:02] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yeah. That's crazy.
[01:30:07] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm sorry. If they ever actually got released or not. That that was I think that was back during Trump's first term.
[01:30:13] Rich Chelson:
What is what is top secret about where a man sleeps or a woman sleeps? No idea. But, but yeah. They, Long as the curtains are drawn, hey. It's all private. Right?
[01:30:25] Bryan Goodwin:
You think so. But at the same time, I mean, it's not just your, not just your bed, especially on submarines that they are, they do hot cuts.
[01:30:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:30:36] Rich Chelson:
No. Hell no. That would be man. That would suck. You know, you have your rack and all like that. Y'all happy. Y'all good. And then then you get some nasty nappy headed motherfucker.
[01:30:50] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. No. You get a dirtbag sleeping in your bed. No.
[01:30:54] Rich Chelson:
No. No. You see, that's why I was glad I stayed in the army and I didn't go in the navy because I would not have Well, no. That's just that's just for the bubble heads.
[01:31:03] Bryan Goodwin:
It it does that's for those guys who were able to hold their hold their breath 6 months at a time.
[01:31:10] Duuude-Ron :
So you you when you're in the navy, you had your own
[01:31:14] Bryan Goodwin:
bunk. Yeah. Yeah. I had my own I own my own bunk. Yep. I was and and the way it is, because we have coffin racks, and they were stacked stacked 3 high. Low man on the totem pole got the very top bunk. All right. Means you had to climb up. You didn't actually get a actual, coffin locker. You had a, your, you had a standup locker to put all your stuff in the, you know, so, and then 3rd class, 3rd class, petty officers and stuff, they would typically get the very bottom bunk. It was easier to get in and out and stuff, but you also had a coffin lock. So you, oh, you could lift your bed up and you had all this space for all your shit. And then you had a standard blocker for your, for your, for your dress blues and your, Johnny Cash's and and your summer whites and all that.
And then second, 2nd class pay the officers, 1st class pay the officers. They got the middle right, which was you didn't have to bend down to to open your open your your locker. You could stand up. You could open your locker. You could rummage through there. Standing up is fairly comfortable. And so it was a lot more a lot easier. And so you had to make sure that you didn't step on the 1st class petty officer's bed and sheets with your nasty ass shower shoes when you're getting into bed. You know, you had to, you had to figure out how, how do you get up into bed? You know, you had the the low man on the totem pole had to climb you know, Spider Man is way up into this rack without without pissing off the, the petty officer below you, and the petty officer below me was my fucking nemesis.
Hey. Hey. That dude. And he was not a fan a fan of me either. So could not stand o s one Lemaster. Oh my god.
[01:33:19] Rich Chelson:
Man, and I I am so glad I did not go into the navy. I am so glad. Hey, man. But there was times we would,
[01:33:28] Bryan Goodwin:
be underway. We would have steak and lobster. Now the lobster was often a little on the rubbery side because, I mean, hell, you're cooking for 5,000 people. So Right. You know? You you weren't you weren't gonna expect, you know, full all out gourmet, but you had some pretty damn good food. And then, you know, you got to go mess cranking, then and you rolled the, rolled the the digest. Right? You got to go down in chief's mess, and you got the best food there was. So, you know, and I've talked about the chief's mess before. So Right. Right. But but you see, though, that's the thing, man.
[01:34:01] Rich Chelson:
It it just I you see, especially when I was in the military, I was a cocky motherfucker. I mean, I was cocky. Oh, yeah. Dude, I was cocky. No. Yeah. I was. I was, I didn't give 2 shits. And on the ship, I had to kill half the crew within the 1st week.
[01:34:25] Bryan Goodwin:
I was kind of Well, it takes a little bit to get used to the, to to the food. But eventually, yeah, the the gas does die down. I'll just let you know.
[01:34:34] Rich Chelson:
You see, that's why that's why I like the army because, you know, our rooms, most of our rooms, we had 2 people in them. Well, in my first duty station, I had a 4 man room that I had all to myself for a long time. I mean and then and then for some reason, my e 6, I guess, hated me. Well, yeah, he hated me because I was a smartass, and he didn't like me. I don't know why. I mean, I was charming, I thought, but he didn't think so. And, he put 3 other guys with me and, yeah, they, wound up just moving on. And, like, 4 months over 4 months, they were gone and I was back to myself. And it's like, leave me alone, people.
[01:35:25] Bryan Goodwin:
So you were bay you were a bit like a Beatle Bailey.
[01:35:29] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I was. No. No. My shit my shit was dress right dressed, dude, all the time. Dress right dressed, highly shined. I was standing tall and looking good in the neighborhood. But, yeah, they just yeah. They tried to put other people with me. And, I mean, I got along with the people, you know. Right. They just, like I said, moved on. You know, I got transferred or whatnot, different orders, and then everybody forgot about little o me until I left for South Korea. And then and then I was in a room with, 3 people, which I hated.
So because, one guy was, he he, he was not army material. He was just, yeah, air waster is is all he was.
[01:36:26] Duuude-Ron :
God.
[01:36:27] Rich Chelson:
Another guy thought thought his shit didn't stink. It's like, I ain't got no use for either one of you.
[01:36:38] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. No. I I agree, man. Especially in South Korea, up there in, where the hell was I at? TDC, Tong DeShawn, Camp Casey.
[01:36:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I was just I was I was just north of you in Camp Stanley.
[01:36:58] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:37:00] Bryan Goodwin:
So yeah. I was nowhere close to Camp Beaufort.
[01:37:04] Rich Chelson:
Camp what?
[01:37:07] Bryan Goodwin:
We had a Stanley and a and a and a and a and a who whoever the other one was. So I just like to see who else could be, the Buford Buford. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. That's it.
[01:37:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. To have 3 other individuals in the same small spaces with those Quanta Huts, and everybody left listened to different music and nobody liked anybody else's music that was in those, you know, your roommate Yep. Type aspect. Yeah. No. I'm glad I only had one roommate as being an NCO. Yeah. And sick And that and that still sucked.
[01:37:56] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:37:58] Duuude-Ron :
That having that one individual as a roommate, because me and him it's not that we didn't get along, but
[01:38:11] Bryan Goodwin:
we had Y'all didn't get along?
[01:38:13] Duuude-Ron :
No. We just had different tastes. He I listened to rock and roll. He was he listened to country, and I'm not that big of a country listener. And, now we just didn't have much in common. And, yeah, it kinda sucked to have a roommate that doesn't have anything in common. These.
[01:38:34] Rich Chelson:
Sorry, dude.
[01:38:35] Duuude-Ron :
It hell, yeah. The eighties. That's that's where that's where the fuck it's at, is in the eighties.
[01:38:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Didn't speak to the microphone. If it's
[01:38:46] Duuude-Ron :
big if it's big hair or if it's, you know, beat your face on the stage, you know, that's that's what I listen to.
[01:38:58] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Yeah. No. When when I was in South Korea, we, we had actual barracks. And, what was cool though now I had a few different roommates because there was people rotating in and out all the time. Yep. There's this one guy came in. His, last name was Kim. Come to find out, dude was born and raised in South Korea. Raised for a part of his life in South Korea. Okay. Wound up Sorry. Wound up moving to the state and joining the military. Got his citizenship and joined the military, our military.
[01:39:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Just to go back to South Korea.
[01:39:46] Rich Chelson:
It's like, goddamn, man. I was trying to leave this place. Right. Right. And and that's the thing. He didn't ask to come back. They just sent him back. And and I got to knowing him pretty well. And, I mean, dude was a cool guy, man. He was laid back really cool. And, I was I was kinda, selfish because he could he could still speak Korean. So I would have him help me get the hookups with the bar girls. I scored, man. I scored constantly. And Got all those little mama songs, Oh, man. I shit. Dude, every fucking night. Literally, every night.
Oh, yeah. Like, dude, life was great. There's this one girl. I mean, if if if I'd had the $5,000 cash, I would have married her and brought her home.
[01:40:46] Duuude-Ron :
Why do you have why do you have to have 5,000? That's what I was gonna ask too. Well, okay. Back then,
[01:40:52] Rich Chelson:
and I'm not sure if it's still this way now. It might be. But back then, GI is because you see, Camp Stanley is closed now. It's it's no longer a base. But, you could buy a, you know, basically buy well, you say buy, but it's not really, You know, one of these bar girls, you know, if you 2 liked each other, you'd pay mama san $5,000, and they would say it was for the money they spent for the girls' room and the TV and the stuff they had, which everybody knew it didn't cost no $5,000.
[01:41:33] Duuude-Ron :
Now Right.
[01:41:34] Rich Chelson:
I know a guy I knew a guy that, actually married one of them girls over there at the same time I was over there. And he paid the $5,000 with mama san. When he got married, mama san gave them the money back for him to start out with. So it was more of, like, kind of a,
[01:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:
paying the dowry.
[01:42:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Dowry. Yeah.
[01:42:02] Rich Chelson:
You know? And and I didn't know nothing about it anyway, but, you know, I didn't have no $5,000, but, yeah, there's this girl named Mina. Oh, man. She was gosh. She was beautiful. And, I mean, I yeah. I spent I spent so much time with her. And, I mean, we would even go out, during the day on the weekends, you know, and go to Wijiang Bu and, you know, go, you know, different restaurants, walk around the the market and stuff like that. I mean, it was great. And, I mean, we were just hanging out with each other talking. And, I mean, she could talk English pretty well.
You know? I just I just didn't have the money. Otherwise, yeah, I would have married her, but it it was not in the cards.
[01:42:58] Duuude-Ron :
Bummer. Bummer. Right? Womp womp. Yeah.
[01:43:04] Rich Chelson:
Because, yeah, it just yeah. It was it was just I don't know. It was cool. And and, like, yeah, that guy Kim, he was cool as shit. And, you know, if if I I was willing to talk to a girl and and I knew where he was at, I'd get him over and, Hey, what's he saying? Translate for me. And he would. That's the thing he would. I mean, he was cool. He was cool like that. I was like, fuck, yeah. I'm like, just a couple beers is all. Right? I'm like, dude, I'm I'm buying, man. I'm buying. It's it's all me, man. Oh, yeah. He was yeah. He was cool.
I never knew what happened to him after I left South Korea.
[01:43:54] Bryan Goodwin:
What is it that what is that place? I think it's called Together We Serve.
[01:44:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:44:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I'm on it. Have you have you checked them, you checked to see if you can find them through there?
[01:44:08] Rich Chelson:
I haven't added my, my, South Korea stint yet. I've done my fort my, Fort Raleigh Oh, okay. And everything, and I haven't found anyone from there yet. But, I need to add my, South Korea time in there and everything, especially since Camp Stanley's closed. So
[01:44:35] Duuude-Ron :
I think Casey's even closed now.
[01:44:38] Rich Chelson:
No. Casey's still open last I heard. That was from Dalton, my nephew. You know Dalton?
[01:44:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Dalton said,
[01:44:48] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Camp Casey is last time he knew was and that was a few years back. It was still open. I'm looking real quick.
[01:45:04] Duuude-Ron :
I remember in oh, when the hell did I go to Korea for, a maneuver?
[01:45:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's still I
[01:45:18] Duuude-Ron :
was at I was at Fort Still and had to go over for, what the hell was that called? They did it every year. It was a core exercise.
[01:45:31] Rich Chelson:
Over in Korea?
[01:45:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:45:36] Rich Chelson:
God. What was that? Because I was involved in that at least once.
[01:45:44] Duuude-Ron :
And what was it? Like, 2 year like, something like o o one or something like that. They had a real bad, typhoon come through that area. And that creek that creek that is in Camp Casey, the division headquarters or the that chow hall that was right, next to the creek, I don't know if you remember that one. It had the, the 2 ID patch painted on the roof. I think I I don't know if you I I don't know if you remember it, but, I I think it was 2,001. That creek, the only thing that you could see, from that mess hall was the roof.
Everything else was underwater.
[01:46:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, wow. It was basically had a lot of soup from that from that particular mess hall.
[01:46:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Lot lot of thinned out soup, did you know? It was kinda like what happened up in, Chimney Rock that came through, Camp Casey and basically washed Tong Deshaun away. Right. The only thing that was left in TDC were this building structures. And half actually, half of those were gone because of, that river that went through Camp Casey was so swollen and looked just like, that river up there by, Chimney Rock up in North Carolina. Yeah. K.
[01:47:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. It says it says, say a Stanley was 30 miles from the DMC. I knew I knew we were close because I knew our one o nines could reach into North Korea from from from base. So but, yeah, it's it says it's closed and is no longer inhabited by the United States, the ROK, or any other military entity. Oh. Yeah. It was home to 8th of the 8th Field Artillery.
[01:48:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. I was 50th I was 58th down there at KC.
[01:48:09] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. I was yeah. Yeah. It was 8th of the 8th.
[01:48:15] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Yeah. Because, actually, I was with 1st of the 5th Infantry Battalion, but 5th of the 8th artillery battalion supported that brigade.
[01:48:30] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:48:31] Duuude-Ron :
I don't remember what the brigade was. And no. Yeah. And I had my, Catoosa. His last name was Kim. Every time he went home, he was a I tell you what, the best soldier one of the best soldiers I ever had in 21 years of the military was that, Republic of Korea, Catoosa. Every time he went home, his his mom would cook me food. My god. You talk about having food for a week, and this was every month. He would come back with a freaking Tupperware container that was like about, oh, 12 inches long, 6 inches wide, 4 inches deep with, what are those?
Seaweed, what the seaweed rice rolls? What the fuck are they called?
[01:49:38] Rich Chelson:
Kelp rolls, ain't they? Yeah. Kelp.
[01:49:43] Bryan Goodwin:
No.
[01:49:46] Duuude-Ron :
Not sushi. Oh, fuck.
[01:49:49] Bryan Goodwin:
California rolls.
[01:49:51] Rich Chelson:
No. Not in Korea, dude.
[01:49:55] Bryan Goodwin:
I I'm trying here.
[01:49:58] Rich Chelson:
I mean, nice try, man. Honestly, nice nice effort.
[01:50:02] Duuude-Ron :
Kimbap. Yeah. I
[01:50:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I Kimbap is what it's called.
[01:50:06] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. I'll get a whole thing. For a That still don't sound right.
[01:50:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, sweat it sweat it come up. Say a gimbap. It's a seaweed rice roll.
[01:50:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Gimbap. Yeah. I would get a whole container of that from his mom.
[01:50:27] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:50:29] Duuude-Ron :
And this was like and every month was something new. But I tell you what, the best thing that I ever had over what the hell would was that midnight food that we always went and got? Yeah. Damn. What the fuck were those things called?
[01:50:45] Rich Chelson:
See, I don't know because normally I was passed out drunk by then. Yeah. I would believe that. It was it well well, if if I wasn't, I was either eating dried squid or, ramen noodles.
[01:51:01] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:51:02] Rich Chelson:
Fresh ramen. And I ain't talking that that shit.
[01:51:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yaki Mandu. Yaki Mandu. That's what we had. Yaki Mandu. Oh, shit. I'd have to Yaki Mandu what?
[01:51:21] Rich Chelson:
That's what it's called. It's it's ground beef and vegetables.
[01:51:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:51:27] Rich Chelson:
That's that's about all it is. Ground vegetables. So, I mean, it's well, okay. Wait. A a cabbage, carrots, green onions, onions, ground pork, and a few different seasonings. And it's stir fried. And then, say, mixed in with the meat and the vegetables and the seasonings, and then you wrap it into, pastries. And
[01:51:58] Duuude-Ron :
and, And deep fry them. Yeah. Deep fry
[01:52:01] Rich Chelson:
them. Yep. Yep. Okay. So so I'm being honest. And you see this thing, that's exactly what's funny because, dude, what you just said, yaku mandu, ain't most anybody that hears those words like, oh, that's nasty. I'm never gonna try that. And, basically, guess what? Y'all have had it at home. You just didn't know it was called by a different name.
[01:52:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You didn't know it was called yaku ndu.
[01:52:31] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:52:32] Duuude-Ron :
Or fry or, you know, or, fried squid.
[01:52:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I don't I don't think there's much dried squid up up here in America. I could be wrong.
[01:52:45] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I could be wrong. Well, no. We did a lot of fried squid, but no dried squid.
[01:52:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We had fried. Yeah. No. We had fried. Yaki mandu and fried squid.
[01:52:58] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. No. I was I was I was at my, I I can't remember the name of the bar. I can see it. I I mean, I can see it right here in my head. But, I was in there drinking and, mama's son I I I was wanting something to eat. And, mama's son was like, here, try this. I'm like, what is it? She's like, just try it. Do you like it? And I'm sitting here looking at it, and it's pink, you know, and it's dried, you know. And, I just like so I took a bite and I'm like, that's not too bad. I finally asked her what it was. She said, it's dried squid. I'm like, really?
I tore off another hunk of it. I I'm I'm gonna eat it up. You know? I mean, it wasn't too bad. It did taste a little fishy.
[01:53:50] Duuude-Ron :
But Oh, you think?
[01:53:52] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Just a little bit.
[01:53:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You think?
[01:53:58] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. It was it was it was cool. I mean, you say that's the thing. You know? True. Yeah. Sometimes I am I am kind of, apprehensive, and it's still okay. Okay. I I had to check the time. It's still early enough for me to use that halfway big word. But, sometimes I am apprehensive about trying new foods just because I don't know what's in them and crap like that. But, yeah, you know, when I get to drinking, there ain't no telling what I'm willing to try.
[01:54:36] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and it's amazing somebody offers you something and doesn't tell you what's in it, and then it tastes really good until you find out what's in it Right. Why does that why does that mindset change now the way you taste that particular food. Before it was fucking the next best thing to slice bread.
[01:55:04] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:55:05] Duuude-Ron :
And now it's like, you know, you can't choke it down.
[01:55:11] Rich Chelson:
Because of our our upbringing, what what what we've been told is good and not good? And, I mean, that's that's just my opinion, but, I mean, that's that's what I think it is because, you know, like like, well, you spent time over in Germany, dude. You know, I spent a little bit of time over in Germany, and there's you know, I tried stuff over there that I had no idea. You know? And, yeah, some of it didn't even look appetizing at all. I'm like, no. Hell, no. I'm out. You know? But, you know, I don't know. It's just like, you know, you know, some people have phobias about that shit.
And it's like, why? You're missing out on so much of life. It's unreal. Yeah. You know, they're like, oh, well, I don't I don't like pork, but yet you'll eat a fucking pork chop back home. What you eating over here? It's called Mandu, Yaki Mandu. Guess what? Pork chops. Same thing, just a little different in how it looks. You know? It's like, come on now. But yeah. No. I understand I understand what you're saying. And I'm still like that to a point sometimes, but I try not to be. I try I try to be open.
[01:56:36] Duuude-Ron :
So do you remember what the difference is between buggogi and kagogy?
[01:56:42] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Buggogi is beef and kagogy is dog. Yep. Mhmm. I've never tried Rover.
[01:56:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I did not know to avoid any Gogi.
[01:56:59] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. They they get you get get them served on a stick. But Gogi is pretty good.
[01:57:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah. But that's the kind of I love either one of them. I I I know that if I was to get the just a little too too drunk, I would hear just gogi and go, oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then it would be like, this doesn't taste right.
[01:57:19] Duuude-Ron :
What is this? It's a it's a little bit yeah. Dog is a little bit stringier than beef.
[01:57:28] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, I had I went off in, well, in in Australia. We had, we'd just got off the, off the Liberty boat and was on going into Perth, or not, Perth, into Hobart. And, it's what technically is Tasmania, but still, and we go went over and as we got on to, got on land, we walked a little ways and there was a little hamburger stand there. I was like, oh, yeah. Sure. Let's grab a hamburger. That wasn't beef. Wasn't beef. Nope. Nope. It was tango root. Wasn't beef. It and it tasted a lot a little bit gamier than what you I was expecting. That's what the big giveaway was. I was like, nom, nom, nom.
What the hell is this?
[01:58:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, and over in Saudi Arabia, for a hamburger, it's not beef.
[01:58:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Hamburger is not beef. Well, of course.
[01:58:37] Duuude-Ron :
Cows are like What might what might you think it is?
[01:58:42] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. No. Saudi Arabia is is Arab. That's not not, Hindu. Hindu is the one that doesn't do beef.
[01:58:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right. They're they're Muslim.
[01:58:55] Bryan Goodwin:
But what what might be beef? And then there and Muslim. Muslim, you can have beef, You just have to make sure that it's halal, that it's, that it's been killed. It's kinda like the same, it's kinda like how kosher is. It's just, it has to be killed and prepped in a particular way.
[01:59:11] Rich Chelson:
And and prayed over
[01:59:13] Duuude-Ron :
Five times a day? That I know what. What what kind of meat do you think they might serve at Hardee's?
[01:59:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Probably lambs. Nope. Lamb and goat.
[01:59:25] Duuude-Ron :
Camel? Goat. Camel. Really? D e gusting. Worst goddamn yeah. Worst meal I've ever had in my life was a cold camel hamburger from Harley's over over in Saudi Arabia. Oh my god. That was put it back in the fridge? I you know what? That was just oh my god. An MRE was a 5 star meal compared to fucking Oh, shit. Crap.
[02:00:02] Rich Chelson:
That has to be pretty bad because I don't know of anybody who says an MRE is a 5 star meal at any time.
[02:00:10] Duuude-Ron :
Compared to a camel burger? Oh, yes. God, that was gross.
[02:00:16] Rich Chelson:
Damn. Yeah. I I I didn't mind MREs as as long as I got my Frankfurters and beans, everything else be damned. Frankfurters and beans, dude.
[02:00:31] Duuude-Ron :
I liked the dehydrated pork patty and dehydrated beef patty. Those were my favorites. You know, I I I
[02:00:40] Rich Chelson:
I couldn't really I couldn't really get into those. I mean, I I'd eat them, of course, because, I mean, shit. That's what I had to eat.
[02:00:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You didn't have much choice.
[02:00:50] Rich Chelson:
No. But frank oh, man. Frankfurters and beans, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, god. Even just the thought of that right now is just like, yeah, baby. I mean, MRE Frankfurters and beans, and anybody who's old as we are knows about Frankfurters and beans. Mhmm.
[02:01:13] Duuude-Ron :
And the ham and ham and egg omelette.
[02:01:17] Rich Chelson:
Ham and egg omelette.
[02:01:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I didn't yeah. I had so much of that. I did didn't yeah. I don't like it anymore because I had I had so many of them. I will not eat one of those anymore. I'll still eat the de dehydrated beef patty, and I won't add water to it. I'll eat it dehydrated. That was the best way to eat it. Yeah. But they don't eat rough.
[02:01:42] Rich Chelson:
I don't care who you are. That was rough trying to eat that thing without soaking in water. I mean, I tried both ways, and and I could actually do better with it dry like like you do.
[02:01:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm.
[02:01:56] Rich Chelson:
No. I it just yeah. That was just rough. And and that hot sauce did not help. Not for me.
[02:02:04] Duuude-Ron :
You know what? And this is where I and I probably wouldn't have the money anymore anyway. But when I was over in Iraq for, Desert Shield before Desert Storm kicked off, we're still in as a matter of fact, we're still in Saudi Arabia. I dumped out a lot of those, little hot sauce boss hot sauce bottles
[02:02:29] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm. And
[02:02:31] Duuude-Ron :
filled them with sand and sent them back as Christmas presents. Man, back then, I probably could have made a $100 per bottle if I would have sold them motherfuckers.
[02:02:44] Rich Chelson:
Probably could have.
[02:02:46] Duuude-Ron :
I know I could have.
[02:02:48] Rich Chelson:
You coulda chained all that money up, put it in the bank, and not touched it. Guess what? You'd be as rich as Elon Musk right now. Well, no. Maybe not as rich, but, you know, you'd be on your way.
[02:03:02] Duuude-Ron :
Probably so. But, of course, I didn't think about it at the time. Well, you know, because I was a fucking idiot. You know, I'm still a fucking idiot.
[02:03:13] Rich Chelson:
We all are, dude. Yeah. We all are. I mean, you know, it's just it's it's just us. It's just who he is.
[02:03:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. What's the definite what's the definition of insanity?
[02:03:29] Rich Chelson:
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
[02:03:34] Duuude-Ron :
Isn't that fucking a job? Pretty much. A 9 a 9 to 5 job? Well Isn't that kind of isn't that kind of the definition of insanity?
[02:03:45] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. Because the job, even though you do the same job day in and day out, you you are paid to do that job, and that job pays you enough so you can live. So that's that I I mean, if are you ever gonna get rich off of it? Hell, no. As long as you're working for someone else, no. You will never get rich off of it. I don't care what you do. You will always be a slave to your job until you step out on your own and start working for you, which you can do while you have a full time job because many people Yeah. Do it, then you start to learn what true freedom is.
[02:04:37] Duuude-Ron :
Or Well, yeah. I agree with you on that. Or the appearance of true freedom.
[02:04:43] Rich Chelson:
You used to have taxes and all like that to pay to uncle Sam.
[02:04:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's true.
[02:04:49] Rich Chelson:
Like, he has so
[02:04:51] Duuude-Ron :
a very good friend of mine has his own business. It's, he does boats and boat boaters. But, again, him owning his own business, he is a slave to his clients because if he doesn't have clients, he doesn't have a business.
[02:05:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, this is true. But but you see the thing is, he has one thing that you don't have. He has control over his time and his Well, but also
[02:05:24] Bryan Goodwin:
That is true. And another way to look at it is okay. He's got he is working for his clients. Right? Technically, his clients are his boss. And a lot of people will actually go off and say, I would rather just have one boss that I have to mess with than have to worry about a 1,000 other bosses. Really? You could piss off 1 boss out of a 1,000 and still be okay.
[02:05:52] Rich Chelson:
So I have 999
[02:05:54] Bryan Goodwin:
bosses. Yeah. But if you piss off that one boss that that you work for, you're gonna get fired. Yeah. So which one is actually more secure? Having those 1,000 bosses would be a lot better off than having having just the 1 boss. There's nowhere near as much job security as people wanna believe that they have being an employee.
[02:06:21] Rich Chelson:
That's right.
[02:06:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Now does everybody need to have their own business? I personally think everybody needs to have their own business for a couple different reasons. One, they would, anytime you hear a liberal go off and say, well, businesses make too much money. Yada yada yada. Everybody else can stand up and go fuck up. Right. You don't have a free a foggiest clue. You don't wanna know why I don't hire more people? Because the government goes off and wants me to spend an extra $5 for 1 extra purse to hire 1 person. I don't know if it's exactly your $5, but you have to throw a shit ton of money into to to hire a person. It costs a lot of fucking capital to hire.
Right. As an actual employee because you have to you have to they you have to do, you know, what is it? Workers' comp. You gotta have, you gotta have you start playing paying unemployment insurance. You start paying all in all this other shit. Social security because And then whenever you're paying, whenever you pay their workers, you have to sell out security then. You got social security and then your half of social security that you have to pay into. Yeah. Which a lot of lot of, employees don't have the froggiest clue about. So what? Yeah. They're they're getting twice as you're actually paying twice as much money into social security and and FICA tax and all the other stuff.
And it's for 1 person, but they're they're not going to get all all that money back. Hell, I mean, in all reality, the government's already spent the money, and you're just paying them you're just paying back what they took out.
[02:08:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's just exactly what it is. It's it's sad, but and and but but see, the thing is also with your friend. Okay? He might have a 1,000 bosses. Okay? True. But he can set his own hours, and his bosses have the decision. Do they wanna stay with him or do they wanna leave? And Yeah. You know, he can raise his feet. You know? And so so, I mean, you know, I would have to agree with Brian. Yeah. I think I think everyone but if if everyone had their own business, we wouldn't have anyone to buy the goods. I mean, we I mean, I mean, we still need to have people that don't want to do business.
[02:09:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because you wouldn't have a McDonald's.
[02:09:06] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:09:08] Duuude-Ron :
Because the owner of the McDonald's is not gonna be able to fucking service the counter and the drive through plus cook all the food.
[02:09:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:09:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:09:21] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. It's I and so no. I wouldn't say I wouldn't say a job is is, the definition of insanity because, yeah, even though it's the same thing day in and day out, like, for you, it's different every day. Even though even though you drive the same roads, you don't see the same car, you know, twice.
[02:09:45] Duuude-Ron :
So well You're right. I don't. You're right. I don't.
[02:09:49] Rich Chelson:
Sometimes you might or might not, but mostly not up there. So Yeah. So it's something new every day. Even though you've seen the scenery, the overall big picture, you see you see that every day, but there's different nuances every day. And and if you look at those, you'd be like, oh, I didn't see that. I haven't seen that before. You know? And you can laugh at it, joke about it, you know, cuss it, whatever you wanna do. You know? So now I say that's where that's where I don't see a job as being the definition of insanity.
Where I see it is is when you're trying to, just do the same exact fucking thing that you've always done in your life, and and and and you can't get past anything, and you just keep doing what you're doing every day, every day, every day, expecting something to change. You have to change before anything will change. Yeah.
[02:10:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That that is yeah. That's absolutely true. If you don't change and if you if you can't change your mindset, it the situation will never change. Yeah. That's very true. Yeah. Exactly. Uh-huh. And yeah. It's basically
[02:11:15] Rich Chelson:
taking a step in a different direction. That's all you have to do. It's simple as that. Take a step in a different direction and go that way for a minute. Guess what? Your whole world's gonna get fucked up. And it's gonna be up here. But but it it'll be a good thing. 9 times out of 10, it's a good thing unless you're planning to do drugs, and then, yeah, not so much.
[02:11:39] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. No. Not so much. So, yes, that is I already got I already got today. Stay away from drugs. That's true. Because I already got one addiction that I can't fucking afford anymore anyway. So, you know What? Your Jeep? It's called yeah. It's called a Jeep.
[02:11:59] Rich Chelson:
How did I know that, dude? How did I know that?
[02:12:03] Duuude-Ron :
Because I sure the hell can't afford to break anything right now. That's for damn sure. Right.
[02:12:11] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. I I yeah. I know. Right? Yeah. That's that's like that's like the kids want me to go up back up to Indiana for Thanksgiving, and I I don't know. I mean, I can. It's just honestly, I'm tired. I I've been I've been actually sitting here thinking about it for the past couple weeks, and I am just physically I've I've driven now mind you, 10000 miles a year, I wouldn't even have bat an eyelash, you know, 5, 6 years ago. I mean, I didn't because, I mean, I drove that much if not more. But that it's like, I've driven 10,000 miles this year, and that's just from here to Oklahoma and Arkansas and then up to Missouri, back down here, you know, and then up to Indiana and back. And I it's just yeah. 10,000 miles. And it's like, fuck. I am tired.
Oh, yeah. Yep. You know? It's like, I I don't wanna go anywhere. I I it's not it's not that I don't wanna go see the kids or or see Matt and Dee or whatnot, but I just I don't wanna drive. And I damn sure ain't gonna fly and leave my Jeep at an airport. Ain't happening. I give no damn. I'm taking my Jeep.
[02:13:35] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. If I can do that?
[02:13:39] Rich Chelson:
No. I'm I'm not leaving my Jeep. I'm telling you. And when when the VA was trying to schedule that shot for my neck, the girl I was talking to, they say I was needing a driver. And I was talking to the social worker on my team, and, you know, she said, well, we can send someone out to to come pick you up and take you to the appointment and then, bring you back and all like that. And I said, but what about my jeep? I have to leave my jeep. No. I can't. I can't. I gotta bring my jeep. You don't get it. You know? And she was like, honey, it's okay. Your jeep will be okay. It'll be at home. Honey, no. You don't get it.
I don't leave my Jeep. My Jeep comes with me. You see, that's the thing. People don't get
[02:14:34] Duuude-Ron :
it.
[02:14:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Naked.
[02:14:36] Duuude-Ron :
Especially if it's naked. Right?
[02:14:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. Especially if she's naked. She's sexy. But, anyway Yeah. No. Seriously, though. Say, you you know, people have you know? I don't know. And I, honestly, I don't know if this is even should even be included in this, but I'm gonna include it because what the fuck, I can. You know? I mean, my jeep is kinda like my kinda like of someone having an emotional support animal or, you know, a service animal or whatnot. That jeep, it just that jeep keeps me grounded, you know, because I know anywhere I'm at, that Jeep said, I know I can leave it any fucking time and go anywhere in this United States I want to. And even Canada well, no. I can't go into Canada because I don't have a passport.
But still, I can go anywhere in the u, US. Okay. I'm fine with that. But if I don't have my jeep, I feel trapped. I know I'm I'm weird. And I probably and I probably need to see a shrink, but, oh, well. I was gonna say, yeah, you definitely need some therapy. Yeah. I probably do. I I'm I'm good. I won't lie. I I I won't argue with you. I probably do. But as of right now, no. I'm not leaving my Jeep. I ain't doing it. Yeah. It's just I can't.
[02:16:14] Duuude-Ron :
I can agree with you on that one.
[02:16:16] Rich Chelson:
I love my, I love my Jeep.
[02:16:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:16:20] Rich Chelson:
So say Brian, get a Jeep.
[02:16:26] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Get a Jeep.
[02:16:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Get a Jeep. You won't go anywhere Cause you don't want to drive it. You don't want any, you don't want to leave behind. So,
[02:16:35] Rich Chelson:
yeah. No, you can go anywhere you want your Jeep just has come with you. I mean, I don't, I don't care. Everyone else can stay home, but you and the Jeep are going, dude. I'm telling you.
[02:16:51] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. It's And, yes, my and, yes, my Jeep can go damn near anywhere I wanna take it, Wear a com wear a Camaro, it ain't fucking going where I can go. Or a Corvette, you know, and you can only go so fucking fast on the roads before you get a speeding ticket.
[02:17:12] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's true. And say, I I don't know. And see, I I can go any place,
[02:17:18] Duuude-Ron :
yeah, in the United States. Now if I do something stupid and break it, yeah. Okay. The last time I broke it, it cost me $1200 in parts. That didn't include labor. That kinda that that day at the wheeling part kinda sucked, but, you know, it is what it is. I'll never break those parts again because yeah. I've yeah. You have to do a lot of stupid shit to break the, drag link and tie rod that I got put on there.
[02:17:51] Rich Chelson:
So Oh, we could give it a whirl.
[02:17:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We could give it a whirl. Now I'm gonna I'll break the freaking Heim joints or the freaking brackets before I break the, tie rod or the, drag link. Right. And there, you know, I was gonna there was a point I was trying to make. And like Brian earlier, it just
[02:18:19] Bryan Goodwin:
rolled out of my ear. Right out of my ears. Yep.
[02:18:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Just right out of the yep. And I'll find it in my fridge. I'll find it sometime tonight.
[02:18:32] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You could go anywhere and and everything.
[02:18:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But it didn't have anything to do with that, though. Oh. But I can't remember what the hell I was gonna what point I was trying to make.
[02:18:46] Rich Chelson:
Okay, man. I I dude, I was trying.
[02:18:49] Duuude-Ron :
See, I know you were I know you were trying to get me to backtrack, but it was yeah. No. Fucking god, I hate when I do that. You're saying the train left the station beforehand, Oh, yeah. And all the cars and all the cars, to include the choo choo, derailed.
[02:19:10] Rich Chelson:
Damn. I hate it when that happens. That just ruins my whole day.
[02:19:15] Duuude-Ron :
No no shit.
[02:19:17] Rich Chelson:
Right? Like, fuck. It's just like throw throw your hands up, crawl into bed, and go to sleep, man. Game over.
[02:19:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I like the memes that I see on fuck on Facebook. It's like, today is fucked. You can't unfuck today. So just go back to bed and try again tomorrow.
[02:19:43] Rich Chelson:
Sound advice? Maybe. I mean, it depends on the fuckery, but yeah. Yeah. I see the logic in that statement, actually. Oh god. We are just so off our damn rocker. It's unreal.
[02:20:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We're all over the fucking place tonight, aren't we?
[02:20:12] Rich Chelson:
Oh, lord. Yeah. I'm just I don't know what I'm planning to do this week. Alright. Well, with what's left of it. I'm not sure yet. I haven't thought that far ahead. Shelley and Jimmy are up at up in Tennessee where I was planning to be. But these guys Oh, so we're
[02:20:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, do your roof? Oh, okay. Yeah. Because you that was this is, the weekend for what the hell is that called? Yeah. Fall jam. Yeah. Is that this weekend?
[02:20:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. It started today. Yeah. And everything in yeah. They had called, they'd call well, they had had it scheduled for the 1st November, and then, they called me and said, you know, something about it was supposed to rain. So they just wanted to push it, you know, to start yesterday. I'm like, alright. That's fine. And I told Shelly and Jimmy, I said, I'm probably not gonna be able to work. And, when I found out for certain, I told them. And it was funny. The first day, they didn't get much work done because they were still a able to get quite a bit done, but they wasn't able to get as far as they wanted to because it was raining off and on, and they had stopped a couple different times.
Yesterday. And, I mean, with it getting dark at 5 o'clock, makes it kinda hard to work late, you know. And so, they just showed up this morning and got it finished right as as it was getting dark. So but so yeah. And, see see the, fall jams going on, well, it started today going tomorrow and Saturday and then Sunday, and it's like, I ain't driving up. Well, it's only 450 miles. But, again, it'd be a 1,000 miles around trip. So that'd be 11,000 this year. No. I'm done. I'm tired. Stick a fork in me, man. Yeah. I got a crude. Not a dull one. Not a dull one. Sharp one.
I might be So, yeah, that's why and and, so, in fact in fact, actually, me and Shelley were talking earlier today, and, I told her I said, well, y'all have one in the spring. I'll try and see see if I can go to that one, spring or summer.
[02:23:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[02:23:17] Rich Chelson:
See, I can't can't remember,
[02:23:21] Unknown:
which one it is. So
[02:23:30] Rich Chelson:
but, yeah, there's still there's still jeep in the coast.
[02:23:34] Unknown:
That's in May.
[02:23:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The end of May.
[02:23:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. End of May. And they're gonna be here too.
[02:23:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:23:46] Rich Chelson:
Yep. That's why you're here. Yep. You're gonna be Until
[02:23:52] Duuude-Ron :
the week before when I say, no. Is Yeah.
[02:23:58] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh. I'll just show up, grab you and your Jeep. Dude, I got a winch, and I'm not afraid to run it up under my Jeep, hook it up to your front bumper, and watch you chase your Jeep trying to catch up so you can follow me on out. You need to come out.
[02:24:15] Duuude-Ron :
Why why don't you just use my winch then?
[02:24:18] Rich Chelson:
Well, you got a lot easier.
[02:24:20] Duuude-Ron :
It wouldn't have to go up underneath your Jeep.
[02:24:23] Rich Chelson:
Hey. There we go. I'll do that then. Alright. Because because you driving 55 miles an hour backwards
[02:24:30] Duuude-Ron :
with your winch attached to my Jeep, that would be interesting to watch.
[02:24:36] Rich Chelson:
That would be a challenge.
[02:24:38] Duuude-Ron :
That would definitely be a challenge.
[02:24:41] Rich Chelson:
And if I could pull that off for about 700 miles, that would be a feat. That'd be like What? That'd be like freaking, Guinness World Record shit right there, dude.
[02:24:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's what I was fixing to say. That would be we would have to find a category for the Guinness Book of World Records for that. That's for damn sure.
[02:25:01] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, hell yeah. But yeah. No. And then, well, Dee Dee reminded me that, honestly, I've forgotten. Had hadn't even looked at it that, cruising the coast happens, right when, stubborn is going on. And I'm thinking, yeah. So what's your point? I'd rather be at cruising the coast because it's, yeah, it's a whole lot more fun. And, yes, yes, I I will get in trouble if if she listens to the podcast.
[02:25:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, well.
[02:25:50] Rich Chelson:
Go ahead, dude. What was she gonna say? I'm sorry.
[02:25:55] Duuude-Ron :
And not only that, you don't have to drive any place for cruising the coast.
[02:26:01] Rich Chelson:
You're right.
[02:26:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You don't have to drive up to Oklahoma or Missouri or Arkansas. You just drive a couple miles down to the road and you're there.
[02:26:13] Rich Chelson:
Well, actually, I could drive a quarter mile down the road and sit at the park where the where the cars come down and park to if I wanted, but I would drive to Gulfport because I would have to go see the the gassers again. Yeah. You know? So, yeah, I would I would have to drive to Gulfport, which I would be glad to do. That's fine. You're right. I wouldn't mind driving. You know, you know, around here, I don't mind at all. But going anywhere, that's just not my cup of tea right now.
[02:26:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I yeah. And me and Brian get to do it every single day.
[02:27:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Absolutely.
[02:27:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:27:07] Rich Chelson:
Say that's the thing, Brian. Y'all? Just jump in your car, swing down to temple, pick dude up, and bring him out for cruising the coast. Gotcha.
[02:27:20] Duuude-Ron :
Game on. Or or or better yet, yeah, Brian, come down here. Just park the car in the driveway. We take the Jeep. Go to
[02:27:33] Rich Chelson:
Mississippi, and we're. Sure. We can do that too. Hey. Yep. I don't care. Y'all just get down here. We have a lot of fun when we're down here.
[02:27:50] Bryan Goodwin:
We'll gain £40, but that's okay. We'll have fun. Yes, sir. We probably will.
[02:27:55] Rich Chelson:
Because, we definitely go into, Bozos. We we definitely go into, the bowling pot in Mobile. And let's see. Hang on. There's, and there's Shaggys. That's well, they got 3 shaggies, but the one I'm talking about is the one out in Pass Christian. And then, whatever else we find. Oh, I heard about a place that that serves an excellent prime rib. I gotta go check it out. It's it's in a casino, and it's, but, yeah, I heard I heard they they take their spices and marinate their prime ribs in it for 3 days and then cook them up. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
I gotta go check that out
[02:28:51] Duuude-Ron :
because Sounds like a definitely excellent meal.
[02:28:56] Rich Chelson:
Oh, man. When it comes to prime rib, oh, shit. I'm like, that kid at a buffet. Oh my god. I love prime rib, dude.
[02:29:09] Duuude-Ron :
That kid at a buffet. Yes, sir. Let's see. Man, you opened that another fucking can of worms, didn't you? Definitely definitely definitely Sarge from Beetle Bailey.
[02:29:23] Rich Chelson:
I've been I've been known to make a few buffets cry, okay, in my day.
[02:29:31] Duuude-Ron :
Man, I tell you what, the best buffet that I have ever been at was a seafood Calabash down in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. And this was the late eighties, and it was almost $40 a person. Wow. But but when you have a buffet that has lobster, crab legs, fucking almost any seafood that you can eat and then also has freaking steak, prime rib, you know, all that kind of stuff. Man, I tell you what, that was an excellent fucking buffet.
[02:30:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, I hear I hear, I gotta ask, Shelly again because, she said her, her and Jimmy go this one. I think it's the Island Pacific Casino. They they have a, a buffet like that. It's for for a veteran. It's, it I see, I think it's like $40, 35 or $40. It's expensive. But she said they have any kind and every kind of seafood you want on that buffet. And yeah. Yeah. She says it's really, really good. I just I just haven't been over there. Honestly, I have not walked into any casino now as god. It's been, fuck, 10, 12 years since I walked into any casino because I I don't I well, 1, I don't gamble at all. So and it's just I don't really, you know, mess with them. I used to. Yeah.
Oh, I loved Vegas, man. I used to oh god. I loved going to Vegas. I'd lose my ass most of the time, but I still love going to Vegas. But that was back when when they still had some of the old casinos.
[02:31:44] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:31:45] Rich Chelson:
And since they've tore all them down and went to the new ones, yeah, I'm not I'm I'm not really a fan of of Vegas anymore.
[02:31:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and I've been to Vegas once when I was out at NTC, and, well, I didn't have any money to gamble with anyway. But just walking around in New York, New York, and Circus Circus, and that was just, entertaining in itself.
[02:32:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Watching all the crazies, watching just just freaking people watch. Now Yeah. Say say what is it, god. What what is that one? At Treasure Island, did you watch him do the, the pirate ship battle?
[02:32:37] Duuude-Ron :
No. I didn't. Oh, dude.
[02:32:39] Rich Chelson:
Now now that I did like. I I watched it in the daytime, and it was cool, but I watched it at night too. Nighttime is a whole lot better, I'm telling you. You you gotta go see it at nighttime. It's cool. It's cool. Oh, I believe it. Oh, I've seen it on TV. I've just never seen it in person. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen it outside. I've seen it both ways, and it's it's honestly and I mean, it's just it's fun. You know? It's just actually really, really cool.
[02:33:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Watched the fountains at Bellagio dance. That was pretty cool. Yeah. But we just walked around.
[02:33:24] Rich Chelson:
There ain't nothing wrong with that.
[02:33:26] Duuude-Ron :
Nope.
[02:33:28] Rich Chelson:
You didn't go to the glitter gulch?
[02:33:32] Duuude-Ron :
No. Is it that's downtown, isn't it?
[02:33:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's on the end of the strip.
[02:33:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. We were just where, New York or sir yeah. New York New York Circus Circus. Right there where those are at, Treasure Island, Bellagio. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You just need to get down on yeah. We didn't go down on Fremont Street.
[02:34:01] Rich Chelson:
Oh, dude. Because, I remember one of the first times. It it wasn't the the very first time, but it was probably a month after I had gone to Las Vegas and, wound up going to, Las Vegas again. And, I was running with this other truck driver, and he wanted to go to the glitter gulch. Let's put it this way. I quickly learned where every strip club and sex joint was across this country. And the thing is, most of them are still in the same place yet today. They haven't moved because it's it's funny. I can still like like, when I was coming back from Indiana. Yeah.
There's a couple strip joints and and, and I used to call them hootie hoot shops that are still at the same exits that I knew them 35 years ago, and they're still in business. Wow. Right? So yeah. So yeah. And, needless to say, I knew where all the titties were at.
[02:35:28] Bryan Goodwin:
And sadly, all the, all the, all the porn shops that, that I'd ever visited and, and the few, few strip joints that I'd ever gone to, they're all closed up. So Oh, I do. Yeah. Good, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In Amarillo, there used to be the harem and, jaguars. And, of course, Jaguars ain't even there anymore. It I went there just because, hell, that used to be SRO back in, back in the day. And, whenever SRO went out of business, they converted it into a strip, Standing room only. It was the best damn dance club you can go to in Amarillo. Really? Oh, hell yeah. It was it was the place to go. And so yeah. But, usually, we'd go on Thursdays because Thursday nights was the trash disco night, So you got all the all the, all the good dance music from, from, like, the, mid seventies up to about mid eighties, but it was all the, it was all the good, retro, you know, like, like, Cars and, not the Cars, but the song, Cars by, oh, shit. What is his name? Gary?
Gary Newman. Newman. Thank you. Yes. And, so, yeah, you got cars, Gary Newman, some of the, Thompson Twins songs, and, CCCP, and and, and, Microchip live and all those other great, great dance, dance groups or that, played back back there in the, late seventies, early eighties.
[02:37:15] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:37:16] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah. Went and go there and yeah. It was it it was a great time. I mean, hell. Danced danced many a night with many and many, a good looking woman, went home with a couple, 4 of them. So
[02:37:29] Rich Chelson:
A couple, 4. I love that. I went home with a couple, 4. A couple, 4. So And that was Thursday night.
[02:37:40] Bryan Goodwin:
It's Thursday night, you know, not all of them. K. I mean Friday, it was a couple, 6. So but, yeah. It was it it was a good time, but yeah. And then, the, the the the what we call the porno farm, which was the, over on the east side of Amarillo was a, set of, of of grain silos that had big neon triple x on there. And in there, you'd go in. They had a they had a porn shop and a and a peep room and all that that you go go through. And, yeah, that's been closed down. And the and the, the porn shop that was off of, 287 outside of Bellevue. That's been gone that's been closed up for a long ass while. That's the first porno shop I ever went through because, hell, I was finally old enough to be able to go through one and went in there and discovered, oh, porno videos are fucking expensive.
It's like, get your dad buy a new video. There thinking I was gonna spend, you know, 25 bucks or so for 1. No. No. 55, $75 for, and this is back in the, back in the nineties. So, you know, it still is like, holy fucking shit. That's a lot of for damn money for a damn porno. So And you still spend it, though, did you? No. No. No. No. I'd I'd you kidding me? I'm a fucking broke ass kid. I didn't have that type of money. So I walked around and looked at a bunch of boobs and was like, alright. Well, okay. I've been in I've been in a porno show shop now.
[02:39:14] Rich Chelson:
I looked around, left, and way I went. I wanna say I wanna say the first promo shop I ever went into was over in, Hamburg, Germany during Reforger of 88. And I didn't know, I well, I was walking with a friend of mine because because we had to go in pairs. We had been let out to go into town. We couldn't drink, but, you know, we could go walking around town and, saw a sign and we're like, what the hell is that? Like, fuck it. Let's go check it out. And we walk in and, oh, yeah. They had magazines with pregnant women that were naked.
[02:39:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, the weird fucking
[02:40:00] Rich Chelson:
And I'm just like, what the hell? And we're sitting there and my buddy's like, look, look, look. I'm like, dude, let's go. Something wrong here. Let's no. Let's go. You know, my eyes are my my freaking retinas are burning right now. You know? I mean, I was not used to this. You know? I mean, I freaking grew up a sheltered kid. I didn't know I didn't know nothing about a porno shop, but that was the 1st porno shop I ever went to was in Hamburg. Hamburg, Germany. Hamburg is a beautiful city, but that porno shop, that's probably still there. I wouldn't doubt it.
[02:40:40] Bryan Goodwin:
It might be.
[02:40:41] Rich Chelson:
And and knowing my luck, I could probably find it if I looked hard enough.
[02:40:52] Duuude-Ron :
But yeah. Yeah. Google search.
[02:40:55] Rich Chelson:
What is that?
[02:40:56] Duuude-Ron :
Google search.
[02:41:00] Rich Chelson:
Dude, it's like, yeah. Google it, man. Let's go. Game on, man. Yeah. I don't know. I just, yeah. I was I was not I was young and naive. I did not know anything. I got a lesson quick.
[02:41:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[02:41:20] Rich Chelson:
I was just like, yeah. I don't wanna see that again. And then I saw it again when I got my first wife pregnant. Yeah. About that. It brought memories, dude. My mind went back to Hamburg, Germany. It's like, damn, I've seen this position before. Fuck. I thought I left it in Germany, man. But yeah. No. It's it's but yeah. Since then yeah. I'm I'm not innocent. Let's put it that way.
[02:42:00] Duuude-Ron :
Nah. Not at all.
[02:42:03] Bryan Goodwin:
Nah. You can't claim to be innocent and go to Germany.
[02:42:07] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell no. Uh-uh. You're freaking going to Germany? Oh, yeah. You no. You you will come out freaking demented from Germany. Good times though. Good times.
[02:42:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Excellent times. Germans know how to party.
[02:42:26] Rich Chelson:
This is true. Oh, God. And don't try and out drink 1. Do not. Oh, no, no, no. I've I've I had the mis,
[02:42:34] Bryan Goodwin:
misfortune trying to trying to just try not trying to out drink, just trying to stay up with a fucking Australian. And they don't drink, you know, our our our light our light type of beers, you know, a a good lager or anything. No. It's Guinness, the whole damn way. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. It's Guinness. I mean, holy shit. First time we went to, Perth, Australia. I mean, they we'd go into a pub and everybody because we are all dressed in our summer whites. And so everybody's, ah, it's a beer, guys. Come here. And they'd all have us all together, and they sat in there talking blah blah blah blah blah. They, they buy a round of beer. And I'm like, alright. So I'd be drinking my beer, and they'd be on their they'd polish theirs off and be, oh, what? You're not drinking? Come on, mate. You drink on. That's great. And so I'm drinking along. And then I get that one down, and all of a sudden, as soon as I get that one drunk, you know, I set it down, here comes another one. I was like, come on. You need to drink up. And I'm like, oh, son of this. Goddamn. So I got about 3 and a half, maybe half of them before I took a drink, sat it down, and realized it was about to bounce back up.
Oh, no. And I'm in my whites. And so you don't get, you don't, you know, I go into the bathroom as, like, as as calmly as I possibly can, feeling the feeling everything rumbling and getting ready to eject. And yeah. Yeah. That was not a good time. Ruin those pants. Yeah. That's I tried, I tried to barf in the toilet because I, then I wasn't gonna get on my hands and knees. You know, first off, it's a fucking public toilet too. I'm in the fucking all white. Right. And, it's a dark beer. So, yeah, about from just right above the knees down, gotta gotta get baptizing. So, yeah, it was quite disgusting.
[02:44:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's yeah. I, yeah, I I learned really quick to not try and keep up with anybody in their home country. Jed, that's just that's a wrong deal.
[02:44:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Better just to go, I'm a lightweight. Just take your time.
[02:44:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Not lightweight. Not lightweight. A featherweight. That's alright. Lightweight can hold for
[02:45:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? A featherweight, 2, 2a half tops, dude. You're out. Yeah. That's like that's like well, when I was in South Korea, we drink combat bottles of soju, and that was, like, liter and a half, I think.
[02:45:16] Duuude-Ron :
And Right.
[02:45:18] Rich Chelson:
I'm telling you what. And now I got I was I was actually at the point I could drink at least 2a half. I'd be screwed up. I mean, I'd be tore up from the neck up, but I could still keep it down and and half it. Well, think I could half ass walk with, one person on each side and I would be bumping into them. Make it through the gate anyway. Oh, I'm doing
[02:45:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm doing good. Good. Good.
[02:45:49] Duuude-Ron :
I'm doing alright. Yes, sir. That's good. You did. You get through 2 ball or, 2 kettles of, soju sitting down. Oh, yeah. And as soon as you stand up Oh. Bam. Game over. On the floor. Yeah. Once But you were perfectly good, conversation, everything, while you were sitting down. Yep. As soon as you stood up, man Gone. You're fucked. You're gone. Right. I saw that a couple of times. Now I never experienced it because I was not a hard alcohol drinker, and I was usually always the designated walker.
[02:46:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, so do you as the I'd come in. I mean, it's water.
[02:46:36] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it it's still yeah. Yeah. No. No. I I I just never did it. But, yeah, I saw a couple of guys that had it was carrying on a conversation and still until they stood up. And as soon as they stood up, man, passed out and face on the floor.
[02:46:56] Rich Chelson:
I'd be like,
[02:46:58] Duuude-Ron :
too bad I didn't have a cell phone back then with a camera because that would have been fucking definitely the shit to host. Yeah. No. I bet you it sucks being down there on that floor. Don't.
[02:47:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I saw a few people, do that. And I imagine I did that once or twice when I first started, but after I was over there for about 3 months, yeah, I it was it was actually, more fun to watch new guys.
[02:47:29] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Of course.
[02:47:31] Rich Chelson:
You know? Because, I mean, I knew they weren't used to it, and they, you know, they was they was coming over there like, yeah. I can now drink you. Go ahead, buddy. And and we would we would be nice to them. We would start them off with the small bottles. We, we wouldn't even let him go to the combat bottles. We'd start off with the little bottles. Couldn't hang, dude. It it it it freaking took him a while to hang. And and, oh my god, we just left. Oh, god.
[02:48:05] Duuude-Ron :
It was it was fucking fun. Absolutely fucking hilarious.
[02:48:10] Rich Chelson:
It was. I mean Hell, yeah.
[02:48:15] Duuude-Ron :
So yeah. Hell, yeah. And then we're trying to watch them, walk. Right. That's even more funny.
[02:48:26] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Definitely. And we'd freaking have to carry him across and hold hold their ID up so the guards could see him and they were laughing and just waving us on, like, just go the fuck on, guys. We know it's your all's fault. What? Us?
[02:48:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And on Camp Casey, god forbid, if you if you came in the gate at at 12:02.
[02:48:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Oh, no.
[02:48:56] Duuude-Ron :
And well, you can stay out all night if you wanted to. There was there wasn't a time limit. Right. Right. If you missed the 12 o'clock bus, the last bus, Yeah. Our barracks was on the far side of Camp Casey. That was a 3 mile hike.
[02:49:19] Bryan Goodwin:
It was a little bit 3 miles. Well, see, I was get to the front gate.
[02:49:24] Rich Chelson:
I was lucky. My barracks was less than a 1000 feet from the gate to the Ville. So, I mean, I could I could either stay all night, stay with my girl, Mina, which I did a lot of times. But even if I was drunk, I'd come stumbling back across, show my badge, and just less than a 1000 feet, I was already back up in my bed. So I got lucky,
[02:49:51] Duuude-Ron :
you know. Yeah. We were, I think, our barracks from the front gate was easily 3 and a half miles.
[02:50:00] Rich Chelson:
AM, dude. Yeah. We, our front gate our back gate went to the Ville, our front gate because, sale sale went out over there. And believe it or not, don't think that liberals are only
[02:50:20] Bryan Goodwin:
stuck here in America because Oh, no. No. No. They're all over the damn place.
[02:50:24] Rich Chelson:
They're all over the world because they had a lot of them in South Korea. And those college kids, they would come and protest and cause us to have to stand guard around the whole fucking post because they would threaten violence, normally, at least once a month, if not more. And they would lock the base down. Yeah. And everything. So, yeah, it's it's like I mean, we I mean, we had, college kids protest and at least once a month, if not 2 or 3 times a month, and we'd get called off work, have to go to the armory, get our m sixteens, and go stand on the on the fence, which sucked.
[02:51:15] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And, of course, they they issued an m 16, but no ammo.
[02:51:20] Rich Chelson:
No ammo? No ammo. None. It's like, really? What fucking good is this? I mean, what? Am I gonna scare them? Motherfuckers are gonna come kick my ass. No kidding. No ammo, though. Uh-huh. No ammo. Hold your m 16 and look tough. Yeah. Fuck you. Give me a beer. But yeah. No. Yeah. I learned I I did learn about that really quick over in South Korea because I went in country alone and we got called for that. And I'm like, I didn't know what was going on. And when I found out, I'm like, yeah. This is stupid. I'm like, just fucking post up some guards up the front gate and let them be.
[02:52:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[02:52:17] Rich Chelson:
But that's not how that's not how the army does things. Nope. Nope.
[02:52:25] Duuude-Ron :
Definitely not.
[02:52:30] Rich Chelson:
I don't know.
[02:52:32] Duuude-Ron :
Damn, it's almost that time.
[02:52:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Yep. We are just about there. Just about. So any other, any other well, oh, one other thing we were gonna talk about and never got around to talking about my last 2 last Tuesday. My adventure of of rolling tarps on, on last Tuesday. Now now Ron understands what was happening Tuesday. I'm sure. This Tuesday? Yeah. This last Tuesday.
[02:53:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The election.
[02:53:11] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Well, it it was that. But also, it was fucking raining. Okay. And not just kind of a light rain. It was a fucking rain rainstorm. And I got over there and I'm what I was hauling was plasterboard. So it's actually lot of, of, fiberglass
[02:53:34] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm.
[02:53:35] Bryan Goodwin:
And and, and plaster with a little bit of sheetrock mixed in there. So it's stuff that's actually they stored outside. So it it was able to get wet, but at the same time, you know, driving that far driving 2 or 3 hours with in in driving rain is probably not the best. And so got all, got over to where I was needing to deliver it, and and it was kind of we're trying trying to kind of time the rain, in between the rain to see if we can get everything undone, and it just wasn't happening. It was just the wave after wave. It would lighten up just a little bit, and I'd start getting stuff peeled back and stuff. And he'd try to grab 1, and the rain would come down again. And so he was just like, you know what? It's it's getting stored outside anyhow, so let's just just take it off. He was alright. So fine. So I go to start taking it off. And, I mean, as I'm pulling it off, rain cut the clouds open up, and I mean, it comes a turd, blow turd.
Damn. And I mean, I would and I could've either chose to just, you know, been pissy about I said I was gonna fuck it. I'm gonna have fun. It was 80 degrees. The what rain was cool. It wasn't freezing. You know, it wasn't a Texas thunderstorm type of rain. It was just cool rain. It was not it wasn't bad. And so I was able to be be in it, but I always thought it sucked trying to roll tarps in a windstorm, trying to roll tarps in a rainstorm 3 times as worse.
[02:55:21] Duuude-Ron :
It was it was it And you know what? 5 because it talking about It never felt you're gonna say that. Couple you're talking about a couple of days ago. Right? Yeah. Yeah. This last Tuesday. It looks like You know what? I missed that, and I heard about it because I was going up to Grand Prairie
[02:55:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh.
[02:55:41] Duuude-Ron :
On Tuesday. And when I got up there, it rained just a little bit from Belton to to Grand Prairie. It rained just a little bit, but I missed the morning freaking they said it was Blood. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I missed that. When I got up there, it was just doing a little bit of sprinkling, and that was it. Oh, hell. Yeah. I'm I missed the whole freaking rainstorm. They said they got, like, a couple of inches in a matter of, you know, hours. Yeah. Like, an hour or 2. So 30:30,
[02:56:19] Bryan Goodwin:
45 minutes. Yeah. I believe it. It was it was coming down good.
[02:56:24] Duuude-Ron :
Well, we got we got that today here.
[02:56:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay. Yeah. We didn't we got a we haven't gotten any rain here. Well, we've start we've been getting rain since the show, but it didn't start until, like, right around right around 7 o'clock. But, but, yeah, I went off. I got my I got, the reason why it it sucks so bad is because I would get the I got the, the tarp off. Got it all straight laid out like it needed to be. Got my flaps thrown over and went to go try to pull my corners. But every time you pull, pull a corner to the middle, you're picking up, you know, several gallons of water. So it was like, oh, you were gonna have to pull it up and over, get it in the middle. And I mean, it was raining so hard, so I had to take my glasses off. So I couldn't see the middle. So I'm hoping I'm in the middle area And then go to the other side and blah, you know, hulk it over and then grab and then go to the opposite end, do the same thing. So I'm trapping a shit ton, you know, about a swimming pools worth of water underneath the, in between the tarp flaps.
And so get those all thrown over and get everything straightened out, and I do the same thing. But now I've got water on top of the, on top of the the tarp, water that's sandwiched in between the tarp, and I'm trying to flip that. So now all of a sudden, I doubled the weight of the damn damn tarp that I'm rolling over and getting that all folded over into the middle. I was wore the fuck out. I was drenched. And, you know, as I'm taking it off, there's water that's kind of pools up on top of the, of the, of the tarp. So as I'm pulling it off, it comes all pouring off and onto me. So I got, I got drowned. I was soaked. I'm, I'm not at just soaked. That was soggy. And so I got it all that done, and I would try to pick these damn tarps up, and I think I almost blew my back out. You know? And I was like, oh, girl. No. That's why I waved the I waved the forklift guy. I was like, here. You mind putting those up on the on the that's the first time I've had anybody help me with my tarps, getting them on the onto the onto the the onto the truck. Because, wow, the stethoscope was turned into about £400.
[02:58:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Not only did you have the standing water,
[02:58:44] Duuude-Ron :
you know, mixed in with the tarps, you had all the freaking water that the tarp itself absorbed.
[02:58:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Absolutely. Well, well, the plastic tarp, so it's not they don't actually absorb anything, but it's at the same time Okay. It just pile you you got stuff that it came on from the from the ground, and then what was falling on top of us. And so yeah. Yeah. I got and they were so and they were trying to get, they had couple other trucks behind me, so I couldn't just sit sit there where I was at and get changed.
[02:59:16] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't fucking made them wait.
[02:59:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I mean, I'm being nice because I like Jesus, Pedro, and and the other boys. They're all just the the they're they're they're a hoot. I mean, they they just are are just some of the funnest damn Mexicans you ever hang around with. I'm just, it's it's funny because they go off and harass each other with the horns. And so there's times that, that, where when they're working, someone will be trying to get out and they'll toot their horn and everybody else will start tooting the horn. So it sounds like downtown New York City. Everybody's honking the damn horn all once.
[02:59:52] Rich Chelson:
It's. Yeah. But but but, Brian, you had wet drawers.
[02:59:58] Bryan Goodwin:
I had wet. I had wet. I'm I I went hold everybody. I had wet drawers. I had wet shoes. I had wet socks. I had I I was wet. And so I got But, say, that's the thing. And it didn't matter. Because I what I did is I pulled over I got over to right before we, ready to pull out and, and stopped there and jumped in the back and climbed out of, climbed out of my my underwear and my shorts and put some fresh stuff on there. But still from getting in and out and me sitting on my seat to get moved, my seat did not dry out until yesterday. And, like, yesterday evening.
And it's still all set down. I'm I've been, I'm so glad I bought Febreze because I've been spraying the shit out of Febreze because I'll sit down and I'll get a little, just a little whiff of, of sour. And I'm like, oh, oh God. No. I don't need this. We don't need sour mop smell in this damn car. So trucks. Yeah. But oh my god. Yeah. Oh, shit. Rain, rain, rain and tarps.
[03:01:09] Rich Chelson:
Fuck. And I'll fix that to pace it again tomorrow. So There's a way. There's a way. I used to do it when I'm pulled flatbed. There's a way to fold your tarps and not even bend over even half of what you do. Yeah. I saw I've I've seen a video
[03:01:28] Bryan Goodwin:
of a woman who does it, who folds her tarps and she uses a bungee in the middle. Yep. Hangs it up off the side of the trailer. And then somehow magically she pulls on it and everything folds up in a, in a weird way. And I don't know how the fuck she does it. I was, I've reviewed this thing multiple times and I can't figure out the magic she's using.
[03:01:54] Rich Chelson:
Well, there's, I was taught this by an old flatbedder who who had bad knees and stuff. He he had he had learned about this and he showed me how to do it. He uses 2 bungee straps, 1 on each corner. Yep. And and he showed me how to do it. And, honestly, rolling up tarps would take, like, not even 10 minutes. And it's and you don't you don't have to bend over or anything, really. Right. You get done, roll yeah. Roll your tire, storm right there on the deck. No bending. No nothing. And it the thing is, though, I can't really explain it because it's been so long since I've done it. I would have to go back through and remember how I did it. So I I would actually have to do it a couple times so I could figure it out again. Because, I mean, it's not hard. Once you learn it, you don't really forget it. But if you don't use it, it takes a little bit to get back in the swing of things.
[03:02:58] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Yeah.
[03:03:01] Rich Chelson:
And, Sayah, do you run lumber terps? You do. Right, Brian? No. Well, yeah.
[03:03:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Just,
[03:03:08] Rich Chelson:
You've got 8 foot drops. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Eight foot drops. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those are lumber tarps because because 4 foot drops are, steel.
[03:03:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Steel tarps. Oh, okay.
[03:03:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. 8 foot drops are lumber tarps. Because when I ran, I just ran 4 foot drops. My company wouldn't run 8 foot. They would tell companies. They're like because, like like, when we were out there, they would call for loads and like, yeah. Yeah. We have a load of lumber. You need, 8 foot drop. She's like, not my truck. You wanna hold, we'll hold it, but we ain't putting no 8 foot tarps on it. And they'd be like, okay. Have a good day. Thank you. They're like, alright. We don't care because, I mean, the Lowe's weren't paying that much anyway.
[03:04:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[03:04:06] Rich Chelson:
You know, I mean, if if they were paying a buck and a quarter, we were damn lucky.
[03:04:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh.
[03:04:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They weren't yeah. They weren't paying shit. So but so we have extended.
[03:04:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Now that we've extended and I've been I've I've told my story. So alright. Well, guys, we're going ahead and we'll get her all wrapped up. So anyhow, guys, wanna appreciate, and I wanna say thank you very much for all of y'all that are listening. All of y'all that have picked us up on on, on the live stream, picked us up on on the, on the downloads. Great. Now I appreciate it. Everybody being able to listen. Our show is not the typical show where we you're gonna hear us go off and, hawk somebody else's wears. We aren't going we aren't here to, to sell mattresses or or meal prep, programs or anything like that.
And that is because we do not do the advertising model. We believe that advertising is a is a form of censorship. If we say something the the the, sponsor doesn't like, sponsor's gonna pull their money, and then we're broke. So what we do is we actually say thank you to you. You are our our lifeline to be able to help keep this show going. So we provide a a formula that is called a value for value, formula, which means we provide value. You pay you give us what you think the value is. And there are 3 different styles of paying back at value. You can do time. You can spend time helping us to edit a show or or help us to lay out chapters, things like that.
You can also do, talent. So if you're good at, like, graphic design or you see our website and you're going, dude, you gotta have a better website. You wanna set up set up a website for us? Would love for you to do that because that's, again, showing value. You're helping us out so that you're do donating your time and your talent creating a website for us. And then or you can also do treasure, which is kinda what we're doing right, what we're asking about right now is you doing the the treasure, you can if you have a podcasting 2.0 style app, that means that one, you were able to hit, see, get a notification that we went live.
And when we went live, you can actually, while driving down the road, listen to what we're talking about, and you can hear us yabber for for the 3 hours that we talk. Or you could also on, like, podcast guru, Podverse, and some of the others, they have what's called a, they're able to recognize the funding tag, and you can hit that and you can actually send us a fiat donation, which is just the little green certificates of appreciation that, that, we have available around here in the US. You can send us money through PayPal, and that'll bring that up. Or you can also send us, Satoshis, which is and that is a couple different ways. You can do it by boostagram or by streaming Satoshis.
And you get to choose the value you wanna send. Do you think we're, you know, we're worth, you know, $10,000? God bless you. I'm glad you think that we provide that type of value. Or you think we're worth $10? Again, God bless you. I'm glad you think we're worth that type of value. We try to provide enough value for you and hopefully that you are willing to, to wanna return the value to us. And so that's the that's the epitome of what it is we do. And it is the a fun little experiment that we are running because this is what we're actually doing is we're showing people this is what guys do when we're get when we get together, we sit around and talk. We talk bullshit. And, yeah, we are often very add. Well, I mean, we will talk about one thing for 5 minutes and that'll lead us off to another little thing that we'll talk about for 2 and a half minutes. Then we'll come back over to the original thing we were talking about, which leads us off onto a third thing. And then we leads us off to a 4th thing that leads us to the 5th thing, which leads to the second thing, goes to the third thing, back over to the first thing. And we will just bounce around and have a great time just being able to commiserate with each other.
And so that's what I'd like to help guys, see and understand is that you can have meaningful conversations. Guys are not the same as women when it comes to how we how we communicate, how we share and and partake in each other's lives. We do it in, means where we are just we're talking. And that's the most important thing about it. We don't have to sit there and talk about how our feelings are and and how how we're, how we we, need to have, don't get enough hugs from, from our boss or anything like that. We just yep.
Work sucked. This is why work sucked. Alright. What can you do? What action can you take to stop make stop making some work suck? Which is kinda what I was working with on, with with, with Ron a bit earlier a bit ago. It's not that we are are gonna fix anything, but we're just changing, you know, helping share thoughts with each other to come to a come to a new thought that might be more more satisfactory and beneficial for each other. So that's, that's kind of as a as a theory, that's how how we are running the show. And we've tried several different formats and found us just talking bullshit for the majority of the time actually is easier. We've tried planning things out and everybody come up with, you know, 2 or 3 different topics that we talked about and just go through those. And sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
And sadly for me, it would just eventually would devolve into politics and that would cause everybody to fall off. And so, yeah, we we try to avoid politics, but again, we were we we still have a, have a little bit of a of a a cheering moment and, and slight gloat fest that we wanted to do with, with the, the winning of of Donald j Trump. And so, yeah, we started the show off with a little bit of that and hopefully didn't go overboard with it. But at the same time, if we did, we did. It won't happen next week. So, but anyhow, so we're, that's what, that's what this show is about. And, just if you anything about this show that you liked and you wanna share it out, please share this out with your with your buddies, your friends, Play it on, while you're out out at work. Maybe you've got an MP 3 player that you, that you bring along.
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[03:12:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, actually, shit, you covered everything. I'm good. Bye, everybody. No. I was I I don't know where the hell that came from, but that that just I just yeah. Okay. Never mind. I'll shut up about it. Anyway, I just wanna thank everybody for listening and, who's downloading our freaking podcast. It it just I love it. I I love it that people come to visit us every week whether well, I don't know if if if they're coming live or not, but at least I know by the downloads, we are people are showing up every week to listen to us and probably laugh laugh at us like crazy or laughing with us. I don't know. I would say more more than likely laughing at us because, yeah, we do, as Brian said, go down many, many rabbit holes.
And, yeah, we tried the the scheduling thing, and that didn't work out too well because, yeah, our minds our minds don't work like that. So, I mean, hell, you know, you've got 1 navy guy and 2 army guys. Come on now. Our minds are never gonna be close to the same. Nope. Right? But now, anyway, I just, yeah. Like and also like like, Brian was saying, you know, if you wanna help out with with chapter art, you know, the, the gift for the chapters or whatever. I don't know what the hell I'm saying. I know what I wanna say, but but I don't know if I'm saying it right. But either way, you know, reach out to us, [email protected] atgmail.com.
And, we would love to have you help. And, yeah, we'll we'll try and, you know, I'll give something back to you and everything. We would very much appreciate it because this show is for you. It's not for us. We've been doing this for quite a damn while before we ever made this a podcast. So, I mean, for us, this is just old home week every week, which we love anyway. So we're just doing this out, you know, to, you know, make you laugh, cry, moan, groan, yell, scream, whatever. We don't care. Just as long as you keep coming back and bring your friends. That's about as that's about all I got for this week, I guess.
[03:15:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. And, Ron, what do you get?
[03:15:24] Duuude-Ron :
You know, you guys basically have covered everything that I could think about saying. Again, appreciate everybody listening, especially to this week's Ron's hour of gloom and doom. So, you know, sorry, Dar, you know, if you have pity for me, you know, pay that's great. Let me know. Or tell If you're a lawyer in Texas and you'd like to provide services for Ron, let us know. Or I'll bother you. Tell yeah. There is no problem. Would be better. Yeah. Yeah. And or just tell Ron to shut the fuck up and, you know, man up and get the fuck over it. You know? So but yeah. Appreciate everybody listening, and I hope everybody has enjoyed their time listening to us, ranting and raving and just, like Rich said, going down a lot of rabbit holes.
Absolutely. Pretty much my, take on it. Alright.
[03:16:27] Bryan Goodwin:
So so alright. Well, guys, I wanna say thank y'all again for for listening. Thanks for for giving us, the time to, to entertain you in in some weird, odd, strange, bizarre way and, and allowing us to spend this time with you. So anyhow, guys, we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna wrap this up. Rich, dude, honestly, love having both of y'all on the show every week. So, till we'll see each other next Thursday. We'll be live again at around 7 o'clock. So, guys, with that, y'all take care. We'll catch y'all next week. Bye.
[03:17:04] Rich Chelson:
Peace out.
[03:17:06] Bryan Goodwin:
See y'all later. Alright, guys. We'll catch y'all next week. Alright. Be safe. Bye. Bye.
[03:17:12] Rich Chelson:
Bye.
Introduction and Show Purpose
Political Commentary and Brokenhearted Liberals
Home Renovations and Personal Stories
Political Discussions and Social Commentary
Personal Reflections and Life Challenges
Military Stories and Experiences
Cultural Experiences and Food Adventures
Travel Stories and Personal Anecdotes
Work Challenges and Weather Stories
Closing Remarks and Listener Appreciation
