Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this week's episode of "2 Grumpy Vets," we dive into the chaos and hilarity of technical difficulties, with Brian, Rich, and the Dude navigating the perils of podcasting equipment. From mic cords failing at the worst possible time to the endless debate over Amazon Basics versus Sweetwater cables, the conversation is a rollercoaster of frustration and humor.

We also explore the world of gaming, discussing the intricacies of games like Cyberpunk and Red Dead Redemption 2. The hosts share their experiences and preferences, debating the merits of different storylines and gameplay mechanics.

As the episode unfolds, we touch on the challenges of home improvement projects, the joys of living in a warmer climate, and the ever-present struggle of planning for the future. Rich shares his plans for upcoming events and the excitement of living in Mississippi.

The conversation takes a turn towards social commentary, with discussions on the political landscape, the importance of voting, and the frustrations of political debates. The hosts don't shy away from expressing their opinions on the current state of affairs.

Join us for a candid and entertaining discussion that covers everything from podcasting mishaps to the complexities of modern life. Whether you're a gamer, a DIY enthusiast, or just someone looking for a good laugh, this episode has something for everyone.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living,   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian   Rich and the dude.  

[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:

What is happening with the pod track?  

[00:00:38] Duuude-Ron :

He pushed the wrong button.   You you guys and your freaking buttons.  

[00:00:45] Rich Chelson:

Dude,   the buttons, man. It's all about the buttons.  

[00:00:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I know. If you would just leave   them alone.   I can't. Get the damn settings done content.   And leave them alone.   Yes. Your test is fine.  

[00:01:03] Rich Chelson:

Nah.   Brian, I heard you, but it sounded quiet.  

[00:01:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. It did.  

[00:01:09] Bryan Goodwin:

But yeah. Why don't you why don't y'all get the buttons  

[00:01:14] Duuude-Ron :

fixed and then just leave them   alone?  

[00:01:18] Rich Chelson:

But, dude,   you don't understand, man.   We got to push the buttons.  

[00:01:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And I will never understand.  

[00:01:29] Rich Chelson:

Are you just something about pushing a button that just   gets me all excited?   That didn't come out right, but you know?  

[00:01:39] Duuude-Ron :

You're right. That did not   come out right   at all.   Oh, shit. Not not with it. You know, if you now if you would've said now if you would've said it to somebody else other than us, that would've been great.   But you made the wrong statement at to the wrong   people.  

[00:01:59] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   Brian, are are are you good now?  

[00:02:04] Duuude-Ron :

He was jabbering.  

[00:02:06] Rich Chelson:

He was.   I couldn't tell if he was back to normal or what.   Define normal.  

[00:02:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. We don't have that much time, dude. Alright. Well, we've got a little bit of problem. I'm I don't think my mic cord's working.  

[00:02:23] Rich Chelson:

Why is that? Your,   your, audio does sound a little tinny.   Are you going through the phone right now?   Alright. Let me try one more thing real quick. Hey. Hey. That's not bad right there.  

[00:02:38] Bryan Goodwin:

That's just me talking through the,   I don't have not no microphone or anything.   Really? So yeah.   That test yeah. I'm not getting any any   any motion on my on the microphone. I don't know. Somewhere between   this week and last week, somewhere along the way, my fucking,   mic cord or something fucking died on this.   Damn. I've taken it to the fucking fucking   office next fall or Saturday or whenever the hell. Goddamn it. This pisses me right the fuck up.  

[00:03:14] Duuude-Ron :

You you know what? I you couldn't tell if you're pissed off at all? Not a bit. Not a bit. No. I take it you're pissed off.   You know what?   It's better you being pissed off than pissed on.   However, we can probably arrange that if you so desire.  

[00:03:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Why the hell that damn thing stock works? That's just  

[00:03:37] Rich Chelson:

Hey, Brian. Mic cords, they just  

[00:03:40] Bryan Goodwin:

I know. But hell,   damage.  

[00:03:43] Rich Chelson:

I know.   I know.  

[00:03:45] Bryan Goodwin:

I've gotta go off, buy another one.   I'm gonna find out if it is. If it is, I wanna because I wanna take it over to the office, and   so let me tear down the rest of my freaking material here.  

[00:03:57] Rich Chelson:

What kind of mic cable is it?   Where'd you buy it from? Amazon Basics.   Amazon?   Amazon Basics. Yep. Yeah. Sweetwater, dude.   Sweetwater.  

[00:04:10] Bryan Goodwin:

If Sweetwater can get beat the beat the price, I'll do it.   I I I'm a broke dick.  

[00:04:17] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know,   that's a little more information than I was ready for, but okay.   I will even look it up for you, dude.  

[00:04:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Get you a 5 foot mic cable. I don't even I had a 5 foot. I just need a 3 foot.   Alright.  

[00:04:38] Rich Chelson:

You can get a HOSA   5 foot cable for $12.  

[00:04:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow.  

[00:04:46] Rich Chelson:

I mean   yeah. Dude, go to Sweetwater.   Besides,   if if, those cables fuck up,   they'll honor the warranty.  

[00:04:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay.  

[00:04:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So   because, I mean, they know sometimes cables are just cable.  

[00:05:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, they only lasted 3 years, so dead coming. Well, dude, actually,  

[00:05:11] Rich Chelson:

that's a long life for a fucking mic cable.   That's not bad.   No. But at the same time, damn it. Right. I know. On on a Thursday night of us,   you know, podcast night. Any other night is fine, but not podcast night. Not podcast night. Jee whiz, man.  

[00:05:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Damn it.   Damn it.  

[00:05:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. Get   a go to, Sweetwater   and,   get a Hosa   Five footer.   So   call your guy at Sweetwater.  

[00:05:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Yeah. He knocked him off.  

[00:05:49] Rich Chelson:

But,   yeah, that's what   that's what I would do.   And, you know, it's funny.   You know, I've been I've been going through all my shit and everything.   I have I have found more fucking mic microphone cables than I could shake a stick at.  

[00:06:10] Bryan Goodwin:

You're one of those who kept losing them.  

[00:06:13] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, I found them all.  

[00:06:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. He lost it he lost it in this box. He lost it in that box. He lost it in that tote.   Right. He lost it in that corner.  

[00:06:26] Rich Chelson:

I mean,   I I probably found, like,   6 or 7   microphone cords.   Different manufacturers too.   It's like, good god. And hell, I gave tears   quite a few microphone cords.   Didn't I give you 1 or 2 cord, Brian, or no?  

[00:06:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope. Just the microphone.  

[00:06:52] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Okay.   But   yeah. No. I mean I mean, hell, I can fucking stare in that another couple cords right here.   And it's like   it's like   I'm only using a 5 footer.  

[00:07:07] Bryan Goodwin:

So Yeah. I didn't know. I know I didn't need very long ones, so I don't I got   I have 3 little, oil 3 footers.  

[00:07:15] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   I mean I mean, 3 footers yeah. I mean I mean, they worked for 3 years. You know?   You know, what makes you think a 5 footer will work for 5 years. Right? Yeah. I think what I think what  

[00:07:28] Bryan Goodwin:

what cost it was just every week, all by unrolling it, unrolling it back up, unrolling it, unrolling it back up. That is possible. And I mean I mean, over time, you know, microphone cables just   get out being rolled up. Bad anyhow.  

[00:07:43] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They just go bad. So,   I mean but, yeah, again, on podcast night, how how dare you?  

[00:07:50] Bryan Goodwin:

How rude. How rude. Exactly.   Yeah.  

[00:07:54] Duuude-Ron :

How rude. Wude.   How rude.   Y'all garbage.  

[00:08:01] Rich Chelson:

But   yeah. No. That's I mean,   I don't know. I've got I   I just wait till this one. You know, I go 5 foot just, you know, so I can run it.   You know, it you know, because I've got it set up kinda semi permanently.  

[00:08:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But   but,  

[00:08:21] Rich Chelson:

you know, I can always move it and everything. But, yeah, I just go 5 foot because it just gives me that little extra. And I I think I got some 10 or 15s in here,   maybe even a couple twenties, which I don't.   But   I don't know. I threw some away. I know that.   And I still get a buttload.  

[00:08:45] Bryan Goodwin:

But Well Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Just send Brian a buttload  

[00:08:50] Duuude-Ron :

Let it stick.  

[00:08:52] Rich Chelson:

Right?   Here, Brian. Pick my cord.  

[00:08:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Pick cord. Pick cord.   Alright. Here we go. Let's try this one.  

[00:09:00] Rich Chelson:

Give the rest away.  

[00:09:04] Bryan Goodwin:

But, yeah, I know the story was I I'd hold on to them because   mom and I gave the rest away.   But when I got rid of that last one, all of a sudden, the one I was using or shit to bed.  

[00:09:16] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[00:09:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, you see, that's how you end up with about 30 fucking mic cords. I think I need to start just investing in mic cords once a week going, that time only again.  

[00:09:27] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   I mean, $12? Alright.  

[00:09:32] Bryan Goodwin:

That's for how many?  

[00:09:34] Rich Chelson:

That's just 1. One filter.  

[00:09:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Think I was able to get   say here, what was Amazon   Basics?   Where is their Shelby?  

[00:09:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See, the reason reason why I I wouldn't really I mean, this is my opinion. I'm not trying to sway your decision in any way, shape, or form.   But,   I wouldn't do Amazon Basics for microphone cables because   those are made as cheaply as possible.   Oh, I know. I know. You know? And I mean yeah. 3 years,   that's good. But, you know, what if you get one and plug it up the first time and it's shit? You know?   I have had that happen.  

[00:10:23] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. No. I have too.   XLR cables, 4 foot, 10 pack.   Male, female.   It's   it's a.   That's $30 for 10.  

[00:10:41] Rich Chelson:

Just be careful.  

[00:10:43] Bryan Goodwin:

2 pack XLR microphone speaker PA system all copper projector. That's at 17 50. So that's a for 2 2, that's even more.   So yeah. Yeah.   25 foot 6 pack braided, 65 buck dollars.   Yeah. I see that. So yep. Yep. I would have to say that it looks like Sweetwater   won the, won the price award.  

[00:11:07] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Yeah. And, yeah, that's the thing. Sweetwater has you know, backs her shit up too.  

[00:11:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Sure.  

[00:11:17] Rich Chelson:

And, plus, those guys do nothing but music.   Yeah.   So, yeah, I've I've I've learned to trust them.   Well, I got the DJI app   downloaded on my phone so I can fly my drone.   Dude, I was having withdrawals, man. I was like, fuck. I was pissed   because I had tablet and,  

[00:11:45] Bryan Goodwin:

my stuff So a tablet just just completely die? Or  

[00:11:50] Rich Chelson:

it restarts when it wants, man.   I'd be sitting there doing that, and they'd be like, okay. I'm gonna restart. You know? It's like a, you know, a fat kid at a buffet.  

[00:12:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Have you have you flicked it and, just started from scratch?  

[00:12:06] Rich Chelson:

This tablet has nothing on it, dude. I  

[00:12:09] Bryan Goodwin:

I know. But but, again,   just go ahead and just factory reset the bench and see how it works.  

[00:12:18] Rich Chelson:

Okay. I'll try that. That's I mean,  

[00:12:22] Bryan Goodwin:

and, Android is good.   But because it is   it's it's like Windows.   It has to be as tries to be as compatible as it can   with as many different hardware configurations as possible.  

[00:12:41] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:12:43] Bryan Goodwin:

So   there's been times where I've gone off and installed   Facebook,   you know, all the faith thing   that you would that you would expect on a, on a, on a phone device.   And all of a sudden, it just wigs out because, oh my god. I don't know what to do. It just hits a boot loop. It goes into a boot loop boot loop.   And,   basically, what they ended up having figured out you at least   time lapse have problems with that. Then you have to do is you have to download 1,   open it up, log in, let it do its thing,   close it up, then open the next one,   download the next one. And, I mean, it took, you know, took me a week or 2 to finally get everything installed that I wanted to install back whenever I used Android.  



[00:13:34] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:13:37] Bryan Goodwin:

And that was one of the main reasons why I switched over to iOS because   everything is designed   for just one chipset.  

[00:13:46] Rich Chelson:

Right. No. I know. But but you see, that's the thing.   I've never really had that problem. I mean, either   my Android tablets work or my phones work,   or they just say, fuck you.   I mean, there's I I mean, I've never really I don't,   now now   now this little 7 inch tablet,   when I was living up north, I just had it sitting there. I'd forgotten all about it.   And when I decided to make it dedicated to my drone  

[00:14:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[00:14:22] Rich Chelson:

I had totally wiped it and did a factory reset on it.   Because I was like, I was like, uh-uh. And then and then I went through and I took off all the shit   that kind of, you know, when they restart everything. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep. That got pre installed.   Yeah. Yeah. It went through. I took all that shit off,   you know, and it it's like because   I have freaking cleared   it for   from everything because I was just gonna use this tablet   for drone stuff.  

[00:14:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:14:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I I don't know. I I ain't messed with the tablet yet.   I might I'm   I'll probably try a factory reset and see if that works, but I ain't gonna hold my breath.  

[00:15:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I don't blame you.  

[00:15:13] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, I'm still I'm still debating on   whether to get   just a controller or   just go ahead and pull the trigger and get a 4.  

[00:15:29] Duuude-Ron :

Get a 4 what?  

[00:15:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Maverick 4.  

[00:15:32] Rich Chelson:

Who?  

[00:15:35] Bryan Goodwin:

And What is the definition of the of the of his drone?  

[00:15:39] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:15:40] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. I'm with you.  

[00:15:42] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Yep. The newest edition.   Or the newest,   drone out  

[00:15:49] Duuude-Ron :

in the You know, it it's amazing that   as soon as you buy that   and it hits your door,   it's obsolete.  

[00:16:00] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. This one's been holding up.   The thing is, though, from the 4,   I got a feeling I'm gonna have to step up into the big boy toys   because I don't I don't see I don't see what else they could really do,   except maybe   make the tracking better and, you know, what which is all software.   You know?   They don't need to make a whole new drone.  

[00:16:31] Bryan Goodwin:

I just need the up updates to to an octacopter.   I ain't got the 15 to 15 to 25 with $25100.  

[00:16:41] Rich Chelson:

Get a Get a more than that, dude. An octacopter.  

[00:16:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. What what what I saw over at Best Buy was, when they had had one there.   They were 2 grand.  

[00:16:54] Rich Chelson:

An octacopter?   Yeah. Did it have a camera or a gimbal on it? Oh, no. No. No. No. That's it. Oh, okay. There you go.  

[00:17:03] Bryan Goodwin:

There you go. That's It was just it was just the it's just the, just the copter itself.  

[00:17:09] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:17:11] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Oh, yeah. You you just it's just the copter. You don't   the fuck you're going to, or anything else.  

[00:17:19] Bryan Goodwin:

You just Well, you use it What? You use the icon around the backyard. Having stuff, so you can actually go off and make, like, a lot of money with it.   Because you get, like, the mob bosses to to hire you to to lift, contraband to fly into, end up in prisons and stuff.  

[00:17:38] Rich Chelson:

Yes. No. I think I'm good, man. I think I'm good.   I I am I am not that entrepreneurial,   and thank god I used that word earlier.  

[00:17:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Man.  

[00:17:53] Duuude-Ron :

And and in the correct,   enunciation   Right. And in the correct content.  

[00:18:00] Rich Chelson:

Right. Damn.   That's it. I'm scared now.  

[00:18:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You better be.  

[00:18:06] Rich Chelson:

See, I told you I told you I'm getting bougie.  

[00:18:10] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm  

[00:18:12] Duuude-Ron :

sorry. Gonna have a press. Next, you're gonna have a camping outfit with air conditioner.  

[00:18:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's just comfort, dude. That's that's not that's not quite bougie yet.   You still like Jyris.   You need to come up to PS 5 and and play Cyberpunk,   Then we can start to call you boujee.  

[00:18:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. That ain't gonna happen.  

[00:18:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well No. No. No. No. Next thing you know, we're gonna have Ron. He's gonna be   Ron's late. Oh, sorry, man. I was trying to finish up the last, the last mission I had with of Cyberpunk   or I was trying to rob a bank on on on Red Dead Redemption 2.  

[00:18:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You know,   those games just do not  

[00:19:01] Bryan Goodwin:

interest me. Because you haven't seen them.   Well  

[00:19:06] Duuude-Ron :

It's just like what I've been telling  

[00:19:08] Bryan Goodwin:

until,   I tell,   Rit.   This the graphics and stuff, they're great.   The little attention to detail   are are hilarious and and awe inspiring. I mean, like,   Red Dead Redemption 2. The horse if you have a male horse, its nuts will actually   crank up   if it's in cold weather. If you're running around in the snow,   the the nuts will be all tie, high and tight against the against the horse. Then when as you go down into, like,   what's called,   Saint Denis, which is down in the swampy areas, they're all sitting there low and jiggly and stuff. But it's hilarious. I mean   I mean   pitches the detail. But Why?  

Why? Because they can, and it's fine. I understand I understand detail.  

[00:20:01] Duuude-Ron :

I understand details, but come on.  

[00:20:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, but it's hilarious.  

[00:20:07] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I I I'm just saying you got to be a little bit weird to enjoy watching horse bowl. I know. I know. You it sound it sounds bizarre, but I mean, that's Well, you can't because you don't  

[00:20:19] Bryan Goodwin:

you don't notice it until you notice it. You'll be running around, but you don't even notice that you have a male or female horse. And you'll be riding around, and all of a sudden, your camera will be at a weird angle and go, holy shit. Those are nuts.   And and then and then you can't unsee it. And then Yeah. Just like over thought, well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I've heard people talk about this. And so you gallop all the way across the map, which takes you about 45 minutes,   of real time to get from one corner of the map to the other. And you so you get up into the snow area, then sure enough, everything's all sucked up. You run back down to the back down to the hot warm areas and everything go down and loose and and jiggly. You're just like, holy crap. That's awesome.   And but it's but, even those little attention to detail and the little store little side stories that they tell are what makes it wonderful. It makes it great. It makes it so intrigued.  

And then on top of that, you have the whole overarching   story that you're going with. And that is an incredible   story.   And that's one of the reasons why I like like,   God of War 2018 and, God of War Ragnarok.   That whole   story arc   is amazing.   And I know you you didn't like, didn't like the play style, play mechanics very much there, Rich, but it's it's an amazing story. So let's It's Mona's.   You listen to   to to   to Kratos   and and,   Atreus.   Actually,   form a bond because that when you're first starting out, all he does is he calls the he calls Atreus boy. And boy, go get this. Boy, don't get that. Boy, get the phone. Boy, you screwed it up. Boy, it's what you know, but it's just boy. And as it goes along, all of a sudden, it's Atreus, and it's that's my son. And he and his whole arc of going from I'm the big bad main Spartan. I'm the ghost of Sparta type of thing to   I'm a dad. I've gotta take care of my son and we're on this adventure together   And and the and everything about it, and then you throw in all the other side characters   and things like that. And you have a great   story.  



[00:22:30] Rich Chelson:

And see and and I mean, that's I mean, yeah, possibly true.   You know, I'm not arguing it, but the fact is, though,   stories like that kinda bore me.   I like like like cyberpunk,   you get to know the,   Jackie,   you know,   a few characters around.  

[00:22:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You get the Jackie,   Judy,   Ripper.  

[00:22:59] Rich Chelson:

But but still still the thing is what I'm saying is, though, is that,   normally, how you meet them in the beginning,   that's how they are throughout the game. Now they might change a little bit because with cyberpunk,   you know, how you answer   determines   what you're playing,   whether you're fighting Yeah. Fucking or feeding.  

[00:23:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Now and you're and you're absolutely right.   And it that's one of the the great things about it because, I mean, even your   even your your   choice,   at the very beginning, are you gonna play a male character or you gonna play a female character?   Determines   who you get for romance in the thing. Right. And there's only one character who bends both ways, and no one wants them anyhow. And see and see, that's the thing. You know? It's it's it's,  

[00:23:52] Rich Chelson:

I mean, for me, it's not about the romance. I I don't give 2 shits.   It's just, you know, it's just the fact that that   you how you answer questions that, you know, when you're interacting with characters or scenes and stuff like this, how you answer will change the gameplay.   That's what I like. You know? Oh, absolutely.   Yeah. The story is is fine to go along with it, but   I like the different because,   you know, let's say maybe right now I'm I'm, you know, a little torqued.   I'm a smart ass.   Well, guess what? My easy game just   turned into a shit show because   I gotta kill all these guys,   which does hurt my feelings. You know? Right.  



[00:24:38] Bryan Goodwin:

So what's which guy are you having to go off and kill? All the,  

[00:24:44] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no.   I was I was walking around town,   and,   I was actually kinda lost.   Well, my well, I wouldn't say lost. My mind wasn't.   Just I was just walking around town and walked around this corner, and this gang just looked at me and they just instantly got pissed.   I lied.   Fuck you.   I killed them all.   I mean, I just and and I walked up.   You know, they was   they was   chilling,   kinda yellow.   They saw me and just instantly went red. And as soon as as soon as I see a character go red, I kill him  

[00:25:25] Bryan Goodwin:

because I'm I'm Well, that yeah. Because if you're   if you're in their territory and you're known   for   attacking them all the time,   they actually start looking out for you. And, eventually, you'd be walking down the road. All of a sudden, a car instead of car, it'll come swoop in, and they'll they'll either, a, try to run you over or, b, they'll come to a screeching halt. And about 6 to 8 guys will come jumping out and all of a sudden start shooting at you.  

[00:25:55] Rich Chelson:

But but see, that's the thing. I haven't played the song and or played the game enough   to be known as as a person like that.   You know? I I mean, I don't do it all the time. You know, most of the time, I I just,   you know, walking around, finding the different shops, you know, getting stuff I need and everything like this and playing the little,   I guess, side missions mainly.   And I walked around the corner, and these guys got pissed.   You know what? Screw you, dude. Get out.   And then   I got them all done,   and I went and took their weapons.  

[00:26:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. And then you go turn them in for money.  

[00:26:36] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   So, yeah, it just, you know, but, yeah, I mean, normally I I don't go looking for trouble   every once in a while. Yeah.   I and and I love doing it because it's so easy on this game.   Oh, yeah. 9 times 9 times out of 10,   you can damn near walk right up to them, and they won't even know you're there and just walk up and just go.  

[00:27:00] Bryan Goodwin:

That's it. They're done. And that that mean, it's fun just to walk, walk up to the to the general vicinity of them, then go off and toss a,   toss grenade in the middle of them because there's usually only about 3 in a little group.   Right.   And, then watch it explode.   Usually, 1 or 2 of them will die off, then all you have to do is mess around with the last one. Right.   But Yeah.   But the overarching story like I said, the overarching story, like on, like in Red Dead,   The story itself,   great story just as it sounds. Red Dead Redemption. It is about redemption.   And and how Dutch,   not Dutch.  

How,   oh my god. I forgot to get a main character's name now. Well, Dutch is the leader of the group, but,   Yeah.   Arthur. Arthur Borden.  

[00:27:55] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. That's right. Now Arthur's  

[00:27:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Arthur's,   his whole story arc is it's just a great one. You see here and you can make him an absolute scoundrel, or you can make him absolutely,   light. You can go from,   good to evil.   And,   it has an effect on the,   on things around you. If you're, if you're a scoundrel, you've got bounties every word, and every place you go, you're gonna end up having shit tons of guys come chase that to you. It's gonna cost you shit ton of money, gold to finally get, to get them all off your back.   And  

[00:28:30] Rich Chelson:

You see? It's cool.   Oh, oh, 45.  

[00:28:34] Bryan Goodwin:

That'll that'll Get yourself all packed, maxed out in ammo and go down to. Find a little pillbox for you to hide out in,   and then just shoot 1 police.   And then just sit there and you will blow us. Go through all of your stuff. Just   all your ammo, and they will just keep coming and keep coming and till you get maxed out at, like, 250,   I think, dollars in gold or something like that. It's something high. Something Yeah. To, it's not even that it's not even that just that low. It seems higher than that, I think.   But yeah. Eventually, you get finished playing it. You get finished,   finished with it. They finally get enough people in there to to kill you.  

Then, yeah, you end up having to   having to find a way of paying for the, paying for the bounty   level that you occurred.   So,  

[00:29:23] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I I don't I don't always go around just shooting people just because. They just   you know?   Every once in a while, it's just I get I get a wild haired  

[00:29:34] Bryan Goodwin:

so that's I mean and that's what I do. Like, Red Dead, again, you don't even have to shoot at somebody. You can just stand near them.   And everybody there is so surly that they're like, what do you want? Would you get away from me? And they eventually they just get tired. I'll either start punching you or you'll they'll shoot at you. And so then you turn around and you shoot them. And then all of a sudden, all the police are after you.   So  

[00:29:56] Rich Chelson:

But what the hell? He started it. He started it. Exactly. But   some bitch punched me. I'm gonna shoot you.  

[00:30:04] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm too old. It takes too long to heal. Yep. And it, you know, and, but again, I did, like tips to detail things that I was talking about. If you go into a,   go into a store and you go and rob the store and say you shoot the guy on the shoulder   for the next couple weeks,   in game weeks that you go and see him,   the guy will, 1, remember you. He'll be pissed off, and he'll also have a have a bandage on his shoulder where you shot him.  

[00:30:34] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[00:30:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. So he'll be, oh god. David, yeah, we're all your money. And then his prices were higher. He's gonna charge you more because because you went off and shot him. And so it's just again, all these little attention to details. There's a little side stories and and just the the whole world building that they do. That again, that is one reason why Cyberpunk is so amazing is because you will go through and you'll see   that there's this hacker. You'll come across the the little,   the little note   that are, that are on,   the the memory sticks that you find.  

And   there's one hacker that you won't see throughout   throughout them the whole story   called bad. It'd be at symbol d, and it's called and they're they're called bad.   And they're doing something. You don't quite get all the details together, but they're doing   something. And it's got their own little people doing things. And then you have,   picture blue eyes that pops in and out time to time, and you don't really get to know him until that the very, very end.   And there's a I mean, there's just all these little details you come across.   And   as you   come up   you read about them and as you come to, come to understand them, you get to know that so and so, they went off they went off and double crossed. They,   they went off and some some character,   some NPC went off and double crossed this set of good set of folks, and those set of folks have gone off and done this. And so you find little interesting little side threads   that all in a weave amongst us each other.  

And this underlying story that you   won't know if you unless you're taking the time to actually read   these these   little little, memory sticks that are laid out throughout,   throughout the game.  

[00:32:31] Rich Chelson:

Right. Well, you see the thing is   on a games like this, it's it's hard for me to   catch all this shit because,   1, I'm not used to playing the game. 2, there is so much shit going on around me.   I'm trying to focus on what I need to focus on, catch stuff over in this corner, that corner up here, down here. Right. So,   you know, a lot of that stuff, I miss it. Right. Well, I'll I'll I'll send you a, playlist  

[00:33:02] Bryan Goodwin:

of, that a guy I think his name is Sam Brand.   And he goes through, and he does, like, some of, like, the,   most interesting stories of of,   like, Watson,   and, most interesting stories of Kabuki and and all these and   and little,   YouTube videos along that. And this helps to helps you to understand what all you're kinda pulling together   and you're seeing. He also goes through and tells you what's the best, legendary weapons to get out of this one and how to get these legendary weapons. And   so you can figure out that, oh, yeah. Whenever you're, when you're doing the height, you all wanna make sure you get up to the, up to the helipad   after, after everyone's left so that you can go grab the, the sword,   the legendary sword that's like a badass freaking sword. I mean, he he flies people, and   even on low levels, you're, like, doing shit tons of damage. And,   and and so he tells you how to go back and get all different sorts of things that you might have forgot and pick up different guns and   and things like that. And it's just it's   he provides a lot of   inside detail that   you,   you might miss. And that's one reason why I got on I said such a hard time getting,   into, near,   near, near,   autonomous   is because I just   I couldn't follow the story.  

I'm not under sure I'm not sure as to what   the actual story is. It's all I can kinda gather is that you're an Android   and that,   robots have overtaken Earth,   but there's something else that's going on in on the Earth, but it's, and it's supposed to be a, in a very intriguing story, but   it just doesn't  

[00:34:55] Rich Chelson:

just doesn't pull me in very much. Well, maybe you just haven't found the right spot yet.  

[00:35:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I'm I'm looking for I'm actually looking for a decent,   near,   Automata,   lore   video   that actually   tells stuff in a way that actually is kind of fascinating. So Right. Yeah. You see this thing on most of these games,  

[00:35:19] Rich Chelson:

you see, and this is this is why I have a hard time with the weapons   because   I find a weapon I like,   I keep it.   Yeah.   You know, if it, if it, if, if, if, if I shoot a motherfucker and they die quick,   I keep it,   you know, And it and it's and it's very hard for me to upgrade  

[00:35:41] Bryan Goodwin:

because I know I got that weapon, and that weapon will do what I need it to do. Oh, yeah. You know? I But that's why you get all the iconics because the iconics are the are the shit.   Because they they do special things like, if you get the Lizzie, it's almost like a   pistol that has a shotgun ability to do, shotgun shots   Right. And and stuff. So it it it'll mess people up. And then like I said, you got your,   you get a,   a knife from,   Saburo,   Arasaka   whenever he is after he's killed, and then you can go up to the,   to the helipad and pick up his sword.  

And,   and both of those are just   crazy, crazy powerful.  

[00:36:26] Rich Chelson:

And then as you play I'd sell them. I'd sell them because   that's the thing.   Again, once I find my gun,   it's all about to shoot.   I I don't I don't use swords or   you know, because No. Not normally. I get. But Or knives or anything like that. I think Your your  

[00:36:47] Bryan Goodwin:

the iconics, actually, you can't sell, but what you could do is you could put them into your stash   Mhmm. And they'll actually appear on your stash.   Oh, okay. So you they all they become a combination of of really useful weapons,   but also   decorations.  

[00:37:06] Rich Chelson:

See, that's the thing. Decorations. I I I give 2 shits about  

[00:37:10] Bryan Goodwin:

give me ammo. Till you until you do it because you get   you get assortment of decorations for your apartments.  

[00:37:19] Rich Chelson:

But what's the point?  

[00:37:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Because, eventually, you're gonna bring Pan Am up to your apartment, and you're gonna have oinky boinky.   And if you haven't played been far enough, you don't know who Pan Am is, but you're gonna find out who Pan Am is   because there's a really good tank scene that you don't wanna miss.  

[00:37:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I I I I have not played it enough.   No. Actually, I've been busy because, actually, today,   Yeah. Last night, like I said, the rain stopped last night, and the wind,   stopped about midmorning.   And,   sun came out and it warmed up. And   so my   top lift or my hard top lift   Uh-huh. I figured I would start putting it together. I thought I was doing good, but found out I was a goober head.   But it wasn't fully my fault because the instructions   they included  

[00:38:19] Bryan Goodwin:

that I We got that one that same bolt that you forgot.   Said your the the instructions forgot the same bolt that you forgot.  

[00:38:28] Rich Chelson:

The instructions forgot quite a few bolts.   I was I was I I mean I mean, I've got bolts and stuff here, but   the pictures and and and the wording   wasn't telling me which bolts and nuts to use and then, some of the bars   and   I mean, they started out really clear on the base   where you attach the wheels. Hello? Yeah. That's not hard.   Okay.   And then you got 2 bars, and then you've got this other bar.   Okay. And then after that is when you start mixing it up with different parts, different bolts, different, you know, stuff like this.   And trying to look at the directions to see how the shit goes because it's not straightforward.  

You know, it's not like boom, boom, boom, boom.   Because you got shit that's turning and whatnot.   But,   yeah. And then and then, of course, there's a   locking mechanism,   like a tooth,   and it's supposed   to be able to latch and lock and hold the top up.   And I I couldn't find those holes. I couldn't find those bolts for a while and finally found those. Finally, about 4:30, I said, fuck it. I'm done for the day.   No more. I've got a podcast tonight.   So I'll I'll wind up finishing it tomorrow.   I got this. I said, no. I'm done. I'm out. I know the feeling. Damn it. You know, it's like, it just it's just rude, man. I mean,   like, like, like my pantry, my my, fake wood pantry I got,   I had to put that bitch together piece by piece.  

I'm talking little board, everything, cam locks, and I love cam locks. Okay?   But, cam locks.   That was,   like   the instruction for that was, like, 40 fucking pages.   Uh-huh.   And and, I mean, it was actually cool because everything was labeled correctly.   So I was able to find the pieces I needed,   and I just followed the pictures. And, yeah, it took me a while just because   I was the only one trying to put this thing together. You know? It's, like,   6 and a half foot tall.   So   so, yeah, it's it's but,   you see, that one was nice because each page   showed you exactly what to do and how to do it.  

And if you had multiple pieces, you just   take each piece, you do that piece, mark it off. Do that piece. It was perfect.   I loved it. But these instructions, not so much.  

[00:41:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Almost because you weren't marking them off.  

[00:41:12] Rich Chelson:

They're not that fucking tall, dude.   I almost need a set of binoculars just to read the damn things.   Then it's one sheet.   One. One sheet   to do the whole thing, put this whole thing. I and and it's not really hard to put together.   You know?   It's just   some of the pieces are awkward because   you wind up going up high and shit like this. You know? I just I don't know. I just got frustrated. I said, fuck it. I'll finish it.   Yeah. It's like, nah. I'm done. I'm out.   Besides, I was getting hungry.  

[00:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Hunger always wins out.  

[00:42:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It does.   I mean, I might not eat much, but by god, when my tummy says to eat,   I stop.   The world stops for Richard to eat.   I don't give any damn what I'm doing.   So  

[00:42:19] Bryan Goodwin:

by the time hearing summer crowd, you go, it's time for Bozos.  

[00:42:24] Rich Chelson:

You know, I thought about going to Bozos today. They was closed yesterday.   Oh, that's rude.   Yeah. Right? Yeah. No. I I had I had gotten out. So was it yesterday?   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I'd gotten out in the morning yesterday. Wasn't too bad. It kinda raining and,   went to Ramey's. I was   I was gonna go to store.   I'm sitting there and it's like, why the hell do I wanna go to store?   What the hell do I need from store?   And I was like, well, I need this and that. I said, but do I wanna go to store?   So I wind up going to Dollar General.   And I because I've got a freaking Dollar General market literally a quarter mile away at the light   of my street in Ingles. Okay? I don't have to go I don't have to go far.  

And   so I went up there and went into Dollar General. $32   later,  

[00:43:22] Bryan Goodwin:

I came out. But Well, so much for general, like, dollars.  

[00:43:26] Rich Chelson:

Dollar General is not cheap, dude. I'm telling you.   They're expensive,   but   I did find a couple table cloth.   I've got a Hey. I've got a table cloth on my dining room table. I haven't had a table cloth in, what, 30 years.  

[00:43:44] Bryan Goodwin:

I feel Well, you are becoming all sorts of bougie.  

[00:43:49] Rich Chelson:

See?   I'm scared, man.  

[00:43:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Pretty soon you're gonna have a bunch of little grawny proletariats coming around. You're gonna have to kick them around just to be mean.  

[00:44:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. That's,   Yeah. No. I don't know, man. I just, you know, like I said, this house, I just I've gotta look. I want for it and,   you know, I'm finding it, you know, little by little, and it's just, you know, in the details.  

[00:44:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:44:19] Rich Chelson:

So   I don't know why. It just it just   I've got this picture in my head.  

[00:44:27] Bryan Goodwin:

There's nothing wrong with him. That's for sure.  

[00:44:29] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But it scares me being bougie  

[00:44:34] Bryan Goodwin:

because Nah. No reason to be no reason to be scared.  

[00:44:38] Rich Chelson:

Dude, since and   and and the whole time you've known me, you've never known me to be bougie  

[00:44:45] Bryan Goodwin:

ever. But you're enjoying the shit out of it, ain't you?   Yes.   You may be scared, but you're you're enjoying the shit out of it.   I  

[00:44:56] Rich Chelson:

I guess, kind of. Yeah.  

[00:44:59] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, I can't I can't really argue with it because it just Now I will have to give you shit, though, if I if I ever go over to your house and you've got towels hanging on on the towel rack that no one's allowed to use.   Oh, hell no. I don't I don't do that. You got you got the fancy soap that you're not supposed to use, and you got the hand towels that you're not supposed to use. I'm gonna have to go   I'm gonna have I'm gonna have to take you out and take you over to a strip club and make make you be a dude for a little while.  

[00:45:26] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Yeah. No. I I won't go that far, Meg. Uh-uh.   My house, if it's if it's in my house, it can be used.   Anything.   Anything.   All towels. All soaps. All   anything.   You know? I don't have shit to sit there and look at to look pretty.  

[00:45:49] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm sorry. I I I've seen pictures up on the wall, so  

[00:45:52] Rich Chelson:

I'm working on that, bub. I'm working on that.   Yeah. I gotta I gotta I gotta go through my pictures.  

[00:46:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, we'll go to we'll take you over to Spencer's, and you can find a bunch of the girly posters.  

[00:46:06] Rich Chelson:

We'll frame them. Oh, I'm not doing that.  

[00:46:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Make it look like a bachelor pad.   No.  

[00:46:14] Rich Chelson:

Why do I wanna do that?  

[00:46:16] Bryan Goodwin:

I've done that a bachelor pad.  

[00:46:18] Rich Chelson:

I've done that for a long time. I know. Hit me. Nowhere.  

[00:46:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's because you were stuck out in out in or almost Iowa.  

[00:46:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's true. But  

[00:46:30] Bryan Goodwin:

still Nothing good come out of Iowa.  

[00:46:33] Rich Chelson:

That's I ain't you ain't gonna argue that damn one.   I mean, corn fuckers and soybean   eaters.   So   Yeah. No. I'm I'm good.   I'm good.  

[00:46:51] Bryan Goodwin:

But So did you watch the,   you watch the debate?  

[00:46:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I watched about half of it.   Yeah. It I mean,   they didn't   they didn't   say anything.   I looked really. They   didn't talk about any policies,   any   any plans they had for the country.  

[00:47:13] Bryan Goodwin:

We talked a bit about Kamala's   opportunity   economy,   which was   nothing because that that was the most she she they,   talked about it. They got her to talk to mention it.   Right. Don't don't know what it's about other than it was originally Joe Biden's,   policy,   the and but they she just slapped her name on it.  

[00:47:36] Rich Chelson:

Right. But but see, again,   I I again,   as pointless   because   there was nothing to it. There was no clear path for Americans.   Okay. So so it's like and and, you know, even   even Donald Trump didn't really say anything   about his path   that that that he was wanting to,   you know, stand on   to help Americans.   Right. And so and so after about 30 minutes, I'm like,   fuck this.   I I turned it off and turned on it,   TV series I I'm watching on Prime Video.   Oh, okay. Because, I mean, it it it was honestly   more   entertaining and   interesting than the freaking debate.   Right.  



[00:48:28] Bryan Goodwin:

So maybe you'll watch television show where you're watching.  

[00:48:31] Rich Chelson:

Called the widow   with Call the widow.   With, Kate Beckinsale.  

[00:48:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. So what's it about?  

[00:48:39] Rich Chelson:

Well, her husband,   I guess, he used to work for an aid organization or whatnot,   and he went off out   out to the Congo   and the plane wrecked.   And they said there was no survivors, and she still thinks that he's living   and everything like that. It's it's it's actually pretty good.   Yeah. It's it's just one season, so I think there's only, like because the season now okay. Check this out. Back when we was growing up,   TV shows,  

[00:49:11] Bryan Goodwin:

the season 22 yeah. 22, 25 shows a season. Yeah.  

[00:49:16] Rich Chelson:

Not now. 8.  

[00:49:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Typically, about 8. Maybe 10.  

[00:49:21] Rich Chelson:

Maybe. But normally, 8. And it's like,   to hell.   Yeah. You know? It's like but, you know, and and that that just irks me, man. I just Right.   Because it's like, you know, especially   and and the thing is what I hate when they make a show   and they only make one season, 8 episodes, and then they stop.   It's like, really?   Go on with it. You've got a lot of storyline here. Why don't you go on with it?   Yeah. I've I've,   you know, I found a few shows that were good, but   they just won't   they just won't,   go on with it. You know? Yeah.  

[00:50:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, the wife's watching a, show called The Servant,   and this is it's done and it's and it's done by m and   m Night Shyamalan and Ding Dong.   And   m Night Shyamalan?  

[00:50:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:50:21] Bryan Goodwin:

No clue.  

[00:50:22] Duuude-Ron :

I'm Well,  

[00:50:23] Bryan Goodwin:

I see dead people, kid.   What the fuck's that damn show called? 6th Sense.   Okay. Yeah. I've seen that movie. Yep. Okay. He's he's the one that wrote and directed it. Wrote and directed old   The   Village.   See what's the,   what the the   Oh, what was that damn trilogy?   Got,   got Samuel l Jackson in it,   the   Crosstrek 177 trilogy, I think, is what they call it. Anyhow, it's basically, the trilogy itself was where,   James McAvoy was in it.   Bruce Willis,   were the 3 three main characters in it.   And it's what if superheroes were actually   real in the world.  

It's almost like the boys except not quite as as violent and and stuff, but   anyhow, you have, you had, like, Bruce Willis' character is this guy who is   basically,   under,   that that can't get hurt. So he's he's incredibly strong,   never been sick, things like that.   Samuel l Jackson's   character is this guy who's incredibly smart, but at the same time, his bones are are   brittle, so he's got that glass bone syndrome.   And so they call him mister Glass.   And then you had,   James McEvoy's   character was a guy who had, like, 26   different,   personalities.  

And one of the personalities that they had was,   was this according to the people that were supposed to be inside of him was this fabled,   beast. And so whenever the beast came out, he was very he was overly   he was powerful,   and and   couldn't be shot or anything like that. And so   but, anyhow, it's just it it the way they tied it he tied it all together was real real cool. But, anyhow, m nigh Shyamalan   has done this series, and it's been going on for apparently quite some time because there's, like, 5 seasons to this damn thing. Oh, wow. And it,   and it's   it's a it I was she was watching the first one, but it basically   the premise of what she was what my wife was telling me about it because I I was just. I only catch little bits of it as I'm going to bed because I'm a guy. I can lay my head down and go, alright. So what's this about? And she'll start talking to me.  

Yeah. So,   so from what but what she's talked about and from what a little bit I I have seen,   it's,   yeah, it starts in the, this   mother who was catatonic because   lost her baby.   K. You don't know how the baby, died or anything like that. You just know the baby's dead.   K. And mom is catatonic. And so the therapist   suggested that to get one of those,   what are they called? Reborn rebirth babies, reborn baby anyhow, this is Yeah. Very, very  

[00:53:52] Rich Chelson:

hyper realistic looking doll. Oh, yeah. They are. Scary. That's freaking scary.  

[00:53:58] Bryan Goodwin:

And get her get her one of those and let her take care of it. And so she does. And it made amazingly,   she turns around and starts kinda getting her out active back together and starts coming back to not so much of a catatonic state anymore. She's starting to interact with everybody and stuff, and she decides, you know what? I need to I need to get out. I need to get a job.   But I can't do it because I've got the baby.   So she is she   recognizes the baby and states the baby is still, is is a real baby and that it's the baby she gave birth to and all that.   Or at least that's the impression that you get from what she's saying.  

And so they hire a babysitter   or a nanny   to come in to watch this damn doll.   Mhmm.   Well,   she   as she's hanging out with the dolls, the dad   goes by and says, you know,   it's it's just a doll. Don't don't need to worry about, you know, reading to it or   following the following any of the, any of the schedule that the my my wife has set up.   Just go do your thing. Be make sure you're back here before she gets home, yada yada yada. And she's like, oh, no. No. No. I'm I'm getting paid to do this, so I'm I'll do it.   And so she goes and she takes the baby. She takes this doll out for a walk and   comes back and is and and doing all the   different details and routines and schedules that the mom has set up.  

And the dad's just going, what are you doing? Come on, woman. You've got you know, what are you doing? This is this is not needed.   And he watches and he said, like, she'll take him take the baby out in the carriage. When you got in the carriage, she'll sit there and you can see he'll see on the camera. She's just sitting there. She's just up fussing away with this baby and this doll and just talking to it and, and all that and just carrying on and all.   And dad's just going, what is up? And we got Rupert Grant who plays Ron Weasley from,   the Harry Potter series. Okay. He's in this. He's the he's the brother and him dad and or husband and brother are both going   babysitter's just as whacked out as as as your wife, man. You know, something's off on here.  

And then she's like,   then one day,   babysitter goes, hey. Would you mind just kinda listening for the for the kiddo? She's,   they're asleep right now, but I'm just gonna run down to the store real quick, and I'll be right back. And he was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll do. And so   he is,   he's doing something in the kitchen and got the baby monitor there, and all of a sudden, he hears a baby cry.   He looks around. He's like, oh, it must have been something. And then sure enough,   he hears the cry again over the baby monitor.   And so,   like, now they're going, holy shit. Who stole the baby? Was it the babysitter that stole the baby, or was it the wife that stole the baby? Where'd the real where'd the fake baby go? Why do we have a real baby? And so it's all this weird shit that's going on. All of a sudden, you got this,   you got this weird aunt uncle that has shown up who knows the babysitter   and is demanding that the babysitter go back home with them. But the baby or the nanny is, like, going, no. I'm hanging out here. I'm getting paid to work work here. So we've got this other little tribe of weirdos   that's hanging they're, like, really scary looking weirdos from what I was able to see.  

And   so   and like I've said, this is only the 1st season. I think whenever I   this,   last Sunday when she was watching it,   she was only, like, on episode 4. But it was just so freaking bizarre, and it it just right along the same lines as m not Shyamalan. Now can he carry it all the way through to the end of the story? It's left to be seen because m not is really hit and miss. It can yeah. It could be   the 6th sense, and all of a sudden, you know, you're you're understanding   the whole story and that, you know, he was dead the whole time.   Or it could be the the village where all of a sudden it's like, oh, no. They're not in 18th or 17th century America.  

They're in   modern day America. They're just living on an estate and acting like they're back in the olden days. So Right.   You So you're, like, going you don't know which some witch.  

[00:58:11] Rich Chelson:

You ever seen one of them reborn dolls up close? Yeah.   Yeah. Those those things, they They're they're fucking creepy. Yeah. Now I mean I mean   and the thing is, you know someone   who does that.   You are you personally know someone   that can do that.  

[00:58:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Who who makes them? Or Yeah. Who makes them?  

[00:58:39] Rich Chelson:

Hey.   Dina.  

[00:58:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Dina? Really?  

[00:58:43] Rich Chelson:

Yes, sir.   Yes, sir.   Yeah. She,   she, hasn't made any in a couple years, but yeah.   Yeah,   Yeah. She'd sit there and make them, and,   I mean,   the freaking detail, dude, is is insane. I've I've watched her work on them and and then seen the finished dolls, and it's like   and, I mean, it's seriously   you walk in, you know it's fake,   but your mind is saying that's a real fucking baby.  

[00:59:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it's kinda like,   that somebody is,   I've started seeing,   somebody is making   stuffed animals   Mhmm. That look like   Mhmm. You know, you can actually send you know, you'll have to send, like, several from what I understand.   Send several pictures in of your like, your dog if you wanted to, and they will make your dog as a stuffed animal Mhmm.  

[00:59:43] Rich Chelson:

And send it over to you. Yeah. It's it's, in fact in fact, a few years back,   Dana was looking into this   because it was it was something new coming out then.   And it's a it's a smaller,   thing,   but   you,   kinda,   I don't know, put   the hair or whatever they use in, the colors and all like that. But, yeah, you yeah.   You can actually   take a picture of your pet,   send it to someone that does this. Now mind you, you're gonna pay a 150, $200 for it Yeah. Or more because  

[01:00:25] Bryan Goodwin:

it's gonna take quite a bit of time. It's not something that'll be done in 5 minutes. Right. Well, and that's that's it was just they their advertising would real got your attention because you see this dog,   It looks like, you know, it looks like it, I think the one that they, normally see is the one where it's a border,   not border collie. Just a collie.   And all of a sudden, you see this person   come out with this big ass freaking needle and just go into the nose going, oh,   shit. Okay. It's damn dull.  

[01:00:58] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But yeah. Yeah. No. It's but but, see, that's the thing, like, the eyes the eyes they use are glass eyes and they're Uh-huh.   They're freaking painted or, you know, however they're done,   like, fucking expertly, you know?   Right. It's I mean, dude, it's it's it's crazy.   And, you know, that's the thing on them on them, reborn dolls.   Some of them the average price about $900   on them.   Oh, just yet? Yeah. And and there was some that that went up to $23,000.  

[01:01:35] Bryan Goodwin:

No no bullshit, man. No bullshit. No. You're not catching me going bullshit. That's that that's fry that'll surprise me if they'd be that much. I mean, especially   with the details they put into them. I mean, I Right.  

[01:01:48] Rich Chelson:

And it says   And, see, in this thing, like like, on the skin,   normally, it's airbrushed on.   So but, yeah, it it just and and see,   Siadino would normally make,   mixed racial   babies.   And, yeah, like I said, just to look at them from the hair all the way down,   you   you would think they were   100%   real.   So but yeah. No. It's it's   it's actually crazy, and I'm I'm actually shocked there's a show. It   kinda makes me scared to check it out.  

[01:02:32] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, you know It's an it's an interesting I mean, it's a, I mean, it's it's a suspense   type of, of series. So it's yeah. It's one of those that kinda keeps you on your toes the whole time. You're guessing and trying to figure out, it's like, well, where in hell these damn kids come from? All of a sudden,   the the   the re real life baby is is actually alive and, how or, you know, what's going on here? And you're trying to figure all these all these little details out. So  

[01:02:59] Rich Chelson:

No. That, yeah, that that would probably intrigue me   because I you know, shows like that gives,   you know, gives my mind something to figure out. Like Right. Like, this show, the widow.   Okay?   You know, the plane crash,   they said everybody died.   But as you're going through,   I think I'm on on the 3rd or 4th episode,   but they've had flashbacks   with different characters   that have gone to different parts in the story before.   Uh-huh. And then a plane wreck and all like that. And it and it kinda   gives you a little bit, but doesn't give you enough, you know,   and it kinda actually   keeps you wanting to look,  

[01:03:44] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, for more. Right. It's kinda like the, kinda like lost when it was in the in the payday.   Mhmm. So  

[01:03:55] Rich Chelson:

Dude, did you fall asleep on us? He did. You know, I didn't quite hear him snoring.  

[01:04:01] Duuude-Ron :

No. I'm not asleep.   I just,   every bit of you guys' conversation is just like,  

[01:04:08] Bryan Goodwin:

you know,   so what tell the show you watch there, there dude?  

[01:04:14] Duuude-Ron :

What am I watching right now?  

[01:04:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, maybe not Red for a second, but, you know  

[01:04:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, right now, I'm watching Red.  

[01:04:25] Bryan Goodwin:

The wild of Bruce Willock?   Yeah.   That's a good show.  

[01:04:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is.  

[01:04:31] Rich Chelson:

I haven't seen that one, I don't think. Really? But y'all are extremely  

[01:04:35] Bryan Goodwin:

dangerous.   Yep.  

[01:04:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. It doesn't it doesn't ring a bell.  

[01:04:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, you It's Yeah.  

[01:04:44] Duuude-Ron :

Ron, Bill or, Willis,   Morgan Freeman,   John Malkovich,   they're all,   retire.   The CIA,   Black Ops.  

[01:04:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yep, man. Yeah.   Hilarious.   Amazing show. Red and Red 2 both are just absolutely incredible shows.   So, yeah, if you haven't seen them there, Rich,   recommend it. Go Okay. I would go to Amazon Prime or Amazon and do a search for it. You can rent them for, like, $4.  

[01:05:18] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I might do that.   Depends on depends on what I wind up doing this weekend.   I'm not I'm not a 100% sure yet.  

[01:05:30] Bryan Goodwin:

I have not  

[01:05:32] Rich Chelson:

I've got I've got a lot of things to,   think about here in the very near freaking future.   Like what? Well, I got a well, I got I got a dude coming over to,  

[01:05:44] Bryan Goodwin:

roofing company guy to come look at my roof. Oh, yeah. Because you found that leak. Yeah. Yeah. Or the leak found you?  

[01:05:52] Rich Chelson:

The leak found me. I didn't find it. It found me. And,   thank thank goodness I had him put a tarp up on the roof   because I would have really had a hell of a time in this   storm.   You know? So,   but he's supposed to come tomorrow, and then,   I've gotta figure out a time to go see the kids up in Indiana because I ain't seen them yet   Right. This year.   That's bugging me the hell out of me. And then Shelly called me today,   asked me if I'm going to to a Tennessee Trail Jam up in Hurricane Mills, Tennessee   in November.  

[01:06:32] Bryan Goodwin:

And you're like, I didn't know that there was anything happening in Tennessee about any throw stamps.  

[01:06:37] Rich Chelson:

Well, well, I had looked at it,   like, earlier this year,   but I've been so busy,   you know, with this house and Trying to get trying to get a house spot.   Yeah. Yeah. I   yeah. I freaking spaced it. You know? So I was like,   oh, shit. So, yeah, I've gotta look that up. Try you know, I gotta try and plan out my fall, you know, and my winter. Right. Because   I ain't gonna have no winter.   I I No. I won't. I'm gonna love it. You know?   I'm gonna freaking love it. 56 degrees in the wintertime  

[01:07:12] Duuude-Ron :

for highs? You're gonna have a you're gonna have a winter.   You you will have a winner just like we do. Now it lasts all of 3 days,   but you'll have a winner.  

[01:07:24] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't know, man. Well, you he'll he'll have a win he's gonna have a winner especially if he goes up to Tennessee in the wintertime.  

[01:07:31] Rich Chelson:

Well, that that is a possibility.  

[01:07:36] Bryan Goodwin:

So and So, yeah, you might have to go and see what the what's the future's gonna be about that time and go,   how about that?  

[01:07:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. How's yeah. How about that? Nah. It ain't happening.  

[01:07:49] Rich Chelson:

Well, I'm very I very very well might say that, you know, because I've only got one   heavy coat left, and it's not that heavy.   And I have my whoobie.   That's it. I don't have no I don't have no long johns, no no insulated   anything.   I gave it all out. It's it's gone. It's out. It's gone. I can send I can send you my,  

[01:08:13] Bryan Goodwin:

my my mummy bag.  

[01:08:15] Rich Chelson:

No. It's okay. I no. No. See, they're they're I'm fine on that. I've got I've got a freaking sleeping   bag that I forgot to donate   that's good down to 25 below.  

[01:08:28] Bryan Goodwin:

There you go.  

[01:08:29] Rich Chelson:

But I don't plan to be in that temperature.  

[01:08:34] Bryan Goodwin:

No. But you there you go. You can go and   you don't even have to worry about running the heater in the in in the wintertime. You just throw that over your head to get. Right. Well, you see, that's the thing. I've got my will be close by, so  

[01:08:50] Rich Chelson:

I look   I thought that will be on, dude.   I I'm in, man. It's it's awesome, but Ain't nothing ain't nothing better than a movie.   That's right.   That's right. Ain't nothing but It ain't nothing better than a movie,  

[01:09:07] Bryan Goodwin:

baby.   It ain't there than a   whoo bee.  

[01:09:13] Rich Chelson:

That's actually a cool Damn. I cannot   What's that, dude?  

[01:09:19] Duuude-Ron :

Never mind.   I'm not never mind. I'm I'm not gonna ruin the moment.   Never mind.  

[01:09:28] Rich Chelson:

But but yeah. No. But but yeah. See, this thing so so I'm I gotta kinda   sit here and plan out what's gonna happen the next   couple 2, 3 months, what I've got   planned,   and that's that. I need to find out what this roof's gonna cost me.  

[01:09:48] Bryan Goodwin:

I have no Don't you have a don't you have a metal  

[01:09:51] Duuude-Ron :

don't you have a metal roof? Yeah. Or do you have a single roof? No.  

[01:09:56] Rich Chelson:

I got metal.  

[01:09:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Thank you. That's what I thought. Go ahead. Well, they,  

[01:10:02] Rich Chelson:

the the other day when they come put the tarp on,   they, they had got up there and they said, a lot of the screws were backing out.   And,   they said because,   you know, the screws are rusted and stuff, and they said these screws here could, you know,   be letting the water   run-in. You know?  

[01:10:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, I guess you could always go buy about   5 gallons worth of elastic coating   and just   to grab a roller and pay some kid to climb up on the roof and and paint your paint your roof,   you know, with the elastic.  

[01:10:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I probably could.   But   I don't know. I because,   one, I don't know exactly how old this roof is.   Right. The guy did say the metal is in good shape, so I don't need a new roof, and that's good. But   probably within the next 10 years, I'm gonna need a roof, I would say.  

[01:11:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Maybe 15. I'm not sure. So Well, I don't know. I mean, it, depends. Because most metal roofs are 50 year roofs.  

[01:11:13] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I'd say yes.   I'm not sure. I, and, yeah, I know I know I know this thing's not even close to 50 years old because this house was built in 1950.   So  

[01:11:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:11:27] Rich Chelson:

But   they get tomorrow. There's,   guy's supposed to come out. We're supposed to talk about that. Hopefully, it doesn't kill me too bad.  

[01:11:37] Bryan Goodwin:

And then They can help.   If not, I said we can help, but I if not, then yeah. Just just let me know. Well, me and me and my son will will   throw somebody together. We'll head over there.   Well well, I'll well, you could buy the elastomeric   coating and couple cases of beer. We'll get drunk and and and paint the roof. It's it's it's fall off the roof. Well, you know, that's a good thing about elastomeric coating. It does stretch. So maybe if we get ourselves stuck to it, we fall off, we'll just kinda bungee jump around a little bit.  

[01:12:14] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Or bounce. Softer landing.  

[01:12:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Or bounce.   Bounce?  

[01:12:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:12:21] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. That's,   Yeah. That's   I don't know. I'm I'm gonna find out about that. But,   yeah, I, yeah, I need to sit down and think   of what I plan to do.  

[01:12:34] Duuude-Ron :

Now   don't they have the,   for the metal roofs, the,   rubber backed   screws   that make a,   well, kinda make a   Yeah. Watertight fitting. Yeah.  

[01:12:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Okay. And that's yeah. And this guy this guy also said that   that a lot of my screws,   that a rubber was   cracking.  

[01:13:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Dry rotted. Yeah. Dry rotted. Yep. Oh. Yep. Yep.  

[01:13:04] Rich Chelson:

So he was like he was like, yeah. Hey. He was like, yeah. Honestly, a total rescrew of the roof,   I would say at least a minimum,   you know, but this guy that's coming out from the same company, I guess he's more   the salesperson, whereas the other guy, he was more of a project manager. Yeah. He's just an inspector.   Yeah. But, I mean,   so so, yeah, I got that I got that going on.   And then it's supposed to be nice the next couple days if I get this hardtop lift   done.   Top's coming off the Jeep.  

[01:13:43] Duuude-Ron :

Well, there you go. We're supposed to have backup in the high nineties again for the next   4 or 5 days.   Right.  

[01:13:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I think I think, honestly,   we're supposed to be   mid to high eighties. That's it.  

[01:14:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. But the 120%   humidity.  

[01:14:05] Rich Chelson:

Probably so. Probably so.   I ain't gonna lie. Probably so. Not not not a 120%.  

[01:14:12] Duuude-Ron :

A 120 a £120.   But You just walk outside with a, you know, big butcher knife, and you have to cut yourself a hole in the air just to, you know, walk around.  

[01:14:26] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   Yeah. No. It's,   now we're starting to cool off a little bit.  

[01:14:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:14:33] Rich Chelson:

You know? So, yeah, we're we're,   we're done with   the mid to high nineties, low 100,   medium 100.  

[01:14:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey.   No. You're right.  

[01:14:45] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. Down here, man. That  

[01:14:48] Bryan Goodwin:

that that that Mississippi is making me feel have a false sense of security. He's like, oh, okay. See, this is not oh my god.   So  

[01:14:58] Rich Chelson:

I mean, honestly, I didn't mind the heat too much. I mean, yes. Some days Oh, no. I know you wouldn't mind the heat. You you  

[01:15:06] Bryan Goodwin:

you you you've gone out yet to float down here because it's too darn cold up north, which I don't like it. It's north's too damn cold. So  

[01:15:13] Rich Chelson:

great.   So, yeah, I said, screw that shit. But   but yeah. No. It's it's I mean, you know, when I say cooler, you know, I'm not saying 60 or seventies.   They ain't they ain't calling for that till December.   Yeah. Sixties.   I mean,   from the,   history, average history.   Right.   October, it it it starts to get into the mid seventies.   And then towards the end of October, it gets, like, in the,   like, right at 70.   You know, November   kinda hangs there, and then it gets in the sixties fifties in December and January.   Right.   Well, last year when I got down here in January,   it was, like, 55,   60 degrees during the day, and I'm just like,   I'm I'm I'm sitting there good god.  

When   when 5 days before,   I was sitting   in 20 below 10. Yeah. Minus 20. Literally. Yeah. 20 below with a 40 below windchill.   I'm like,   no. It's like, my ass ain't going back up there until it gets 80 or 90 degrees.   I'm just not doing it.   And I didn't either because it wouldn't until   July   when I went back up there. So   so, yeah, that's that's just,   and that's like last night, you know, I was out on the front porch and, I mean, you know, you know, like I said, we had   between 40 and,   60 mile an hour gust. Right?   Yeah. And   I'm not sure what the temperature was. I didn't look, but   it was nice and cool. It was warm,   but cool at the same time. Right.  

And, oh, man, it felt great.   I I was just like, wow. I ripped I could deal with this right here all year long.   You know?   But,   no, it was fun watching the water   because,   say, I think   I think they had a couple tornadoes  

[01:17:28] Bryan Goodwin:

spin up too. Yeah. You're saying something about there being a tornado right on the state line.  

[01:17:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. There was yeah. There was one there, and I think   I'm not sure if there's one by Gulfport or not, but I think there was. But, anyway,   sitting sitting out on my front porch,   watching the wind   blow the rain across the road   and have it go all different directions and shit like that.   That was actually kinda cool to watch. You could actually watch   what the wind was doing,   You know? And it and and it it was,   it was it I mean, yeah, it was pitch black, but, you know, we got street lights and stuff. But it was cool as shit to watch. I loved it.  

[01:18:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You know? Speaking of speaking of big storms and stuff, have you seen any of the videos of the super typhoon that hit over, like, around Indonesia, Bangkok area?   No. No. I haven't. That is actually one of the craziest things I've ever seen.   Really? Because, you know, when you think torque you think hurricane and it's just that's, you know, a big,   see all the drain coming down.   Mhmm. They were there is so much rain coming down that even if you're standing there, you can't see, like, across the street.   Right. It's just a   it's a it's a literal wall of water   coming out of the sky.  

Plus you've got some serious you know, they were showing people trying to hold doors shut   at, like, hotel stuff.   And you'd have 3, 4 people all braced up against there, and all of a sudden you'd see one just.   You opened up and the doors opened up. Everyone's running back over there trying to get it all shut. Now at the same time, he got down on the water, kept pouring in.   Just absolutely   insane how much water was coming out of the sky. I   did not know that was possible. They're trying to call it a super typhoon, but at the same time, I think it's just a regular typhoon that they're that the green beanie was trying to scare you with. So  

[01:19:31] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   I you you know, and it's   I don't know. It was it was funny because   I guess I guess sometime this morning, Dee tried to text me, asked me if I was okay.   Well, apparently,   Dee started texting Shelly.   She,   and and I was asleep. I mean, I was I was up till about 1:30 this morning, and I finally passed out. I'm I'm like, I'm done. I did I did have my phone by me just in case,   you know, they ran an alert to evacuate, you know, for the storage.   And but,   yeah. It was about 7 o'clock, and Shelly called me   and,   woke me up. She's like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm I said, no. It's okay. It's okay.  

She's like, you okay? You alive?   I said, yeah. I'm alive.   He said, yeah. I was I was talking to Dee. I said, okay. Yeah. I'll text her. Tell her you're good. I said, okay.   So, yeah, it was funny because Dee hadn't heard from me. So  

[01:20:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Dee got ahold of Shelley with Yeah. She she thought that Dee thought she had done got blown away.  

[01:20:39] Rich Chelson:

Right. So, yeah, I had texted   Dee   after I got up and got some coffee in me   and, you know, told her what I saw over here. You know? I mean, yeah, I mean, it wasn't bad.   But Just a glorified thunderstorm.   Yeah. Yo. Yeah. It I and,   honestly, that's why I enjoyed it. But we didn't lose fire, didn't lose Internet. So   I   I did learn one thing, though. What's that?   I will need a bigger generator.   What surprised me? I I mean, I can I can run a few things on my 35 100 watt generator,   you know, so I'm not dead in the water?   But but to run   basically, I I was doing some research   and to run this house.  



[01:21:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Right? You're gonna be one of those big generics.  

[01:21:36] Rich Chelson:

Actually, not too big, believe it or not. Twelve kilowatt will do it.   Run this whole house.  

[01:21:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You might see about what I I don't know how much. I'm sure they're probably about 10,000, but  

[01:21:50] Rich Chelson:

7?  

[01:21:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, but but, like, the Generac generators that you can actually pipe, natural gas to?  

[01:21:56] Rich Chelson:

Generac generator that'll run on gasoline or natural gas or LP, an 18 kilowatt to 22 kilowatt. You're looking at about,   with pad and everything about 7 to, $9,000.   Once you get into the 30 and the 40 kilowatts   Yep. Then then you go in 10, 15, 20,000.   But the only time you need a 30 to 40 kilowatt, that's if you got, like, an 8 bedroom fucking house.   A little 3 bedroom house. Yeah. But you're running all those radios, so you're gonna need that. You're gonna need every else that. Believe it or not believe it or not, my biggest radio   do you know what it pulls for amperage?  



[01:22:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, but then you're also adding on the, you add the linear and everything else to it. So I ain't got the linear.  

[01:22:53] Rich Chelson:

And still and still and still a freaking linear doesn't pull but about 2 I know it's gonna pull. It's gonna be fixed. But But no. No. Seriously. Because on the specs   of, this, 7 10. Right?   From Yaesu, it says it pulls 20 amps.   That is bullcrap.   The the most amps that I pull on on transmit,   11.6.   So,   I mean so it's like but, yeah, seriously, for my house, a little 3 bedroom house, to run everything.   And and this is to,   be able to run everything in the house at once.   The biggest generator I would need would it would be a 12,000 kilowatt or a 12 kilowatt generator,  

[01:23:43] Bryan Goodwin:

12,000 watts. Well, now you've got me 8 way of the curious.  

[01:23:48] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:23:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Because   if you're only cranking out that many watts on your on your bore most powerful radio,   I   several years ago and when I say several, I think, like, about 5 I was still driving for Sandstone.   And   I was cruising down the road,   and I had my CV radio turned off because I was going into OKC.   And I   hate listening to the 20 pages.   Wouldn't go in into into Amaro because we had one, you had one guy   who had a tennis, a, an advertisement   put on repeat,   which I know was illegal, but by a damn, no one ever fucking shut him down.   Right. But his name was he he his name was Striker,   and he had a beef with another,   and he was a he made Striker antennas,   and he did, CV repairs.  

And he had a beef with another CV repair shop over at the TA on,   on on Morgan Road.  

[01:24:56] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[01:24:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Or not Morgan,   on on Council.   And these 2   had alternating   advertisements   slash   bitch fights with each other. And so you'd be driving along all of a sudden, drivers? You know that rattlesnake likes to fuck little boys, a fucking boy. And just like going, goddamn, man. 1, you're on the fucking, on a public station. 2,   who wants to, you know, who wants to use a, a station that talks like that? I mean, you the you're the businessman,   who talks like that and   and then just, you know, that stupid.   Yeah. So I turn I turn our radio off whenever he's   but one day, I was I don't know. I was probably about 50 miles away from from OKC   heading into town heading into the city.  

And I know I had my radio off. Actually, I I double, triple check because I was driving along and all of a sudden I'd hear,   hi, Look up. Yep. Damn things turned off.   I can hear somebody talking.   What the fuck? How you know?   It's off. I'd look up there. No lights on. Nothing.   I 104 Roger. Yeah. I'm coming up over here on the and I get getting louder and louder. And my shit was turned off, and this dude was still broadcasting into me as he went past me. I was just like, holy fucking shit. What the hell?   You know, this dude had to have a 10,000 watt, you know, break it down, 10,000 watts, because he was just an electric hand driver.  

It's it's possible, but I would say probably closer to a 1,000, maybe 1500 watts. Yeah. But I I know, but it's still synced up. The fact that he was still able to broadcast   while my radio was turned off.  

[01:26:52] Rich Chelson:

You were close enough that the signal was so strong. It just it just found any cable   or what Yeah.   To come through on. And it was coming through. And it's crazy because like a coax,   you've got the outer shield. Yep. Okay. You've got, like, a piece of foil.   You've got the ground. You've got   inner foam shield,   and then you've got center conductor, and that power came through all that to come through your radio.  

[01:27:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Still can't hear you. Yeah.  

[01:27:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's crazy, man. But, yeah, the the,   guy is fighting in, OKC.   Yeah. I remember hearing about them. Well, I mean, I heard them a couple times. Yeah. Well, you can't it's no way that you could.  

[01:27:39] Bryan Goodwin:

You can try to talk to anybody on on on channel 19.   Driver, Robin, this Striker Striker   brand antennas. I'll play back and back and forth. He's such a small, but And So you can't fucking cares.  

[01:27:51] Rich Chelson:

Like you?   When I get OKC,  

[01:27:56] Bryan Goodwin:

switch it off. Yeah. Then there was the,   there's another place. Up around Tulsa, there's a I think there's, like, 3 or 4 guys who all work in unison with each other,   and they loved,   they loved to just block you out. They just,   you know,   station the station west or something like that. I forget. I only heard them once, and I was just like, okay. This is  

[01:28:22] Rich Chelson:

I've heard them boys too. Yeah. Yeah. It just it you know? And see, that's where   I I mean   yeah. People just freaking lost respect, really.   You know?   And, I mean, there's nothing the, SCC can do about it.  

[01:28:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, there is, but they don't there's nothing that they wanna do about it. They don't have the manpower, dude.   Don't really need the manpower. You know exactly where where Stryker is. You know where his antenna is. So you can't  

[01:28:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But but but they would say, oh, we need to catch him in the act, blah blah blah. And we you know? Yeah. Like, that's hard. Just turn your radio on. There you go. Who is broadcasting?   Well, like well, like West Memphis. Oh my god.   West Memphis is even worse, dude. Really? Oh, shit. Yeah. You roll in on 19.   You got one   guy advertising to buy weed, meth, whatever,   or or or or help him find his sister, Mary Jane.   You know, go to channel 15. Go to channel 15. You know? And then you got these guys over here,   selling something or, you know, another thing, you know, go to channel 17, go to channel 17, and you hear this constantly.  

And you hear it probably   6, 8 miles outside of West Memphis,   and that's all you hear coming in.   You know? And and, I mean, at least they're at least they're not obnoxious   obnoxious,   but,   you know, not not like the striker antenna guy   and the other guy. You Yeah. Brad's like as bad as as that. But, yeah, they're   they're, advertising to sell drugs and stuff right there on CB, and it's just like, guys. And the thing is, they've been doing it for over 20 years. Yeah.  

[01:30:17] Bryan Goodwin:

I I believe it.  

[01:30:20] Rich Chelson:

And it's just like so, yeah, you know, most of the big towns and stuff,   you know,   like, you know, where the big truck stops are at,   I just switch it off. I don't I don't need because   no one no one really talks on a CB anymore.  

[01:30:35] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. They don't. No. I don't even have a CB in this one.   You see that's I've got a setup for it, but I've just I was like, I don't care to fuck Right. Well, see, that's the thing. You know, when when I was driving  

[01:30:48] Rich Chelson:

I mean, when I first started driving,   we used the CB for what it was intended for. Oh, yeah. News, weather,   commentary,   cops. I mean, seriously, I mean, there there there there was a there was a whole program.  

[01:31:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely. No. You   you got you   saw saw a you use it to find out which which lane you need to have your happy ass stuck in if you're if there's a wreck in ahead of you. Right. Or or  

[01:31:19] Rich Chelson:

find out, you know, the news, what what fucking happened across the country because we didn't have the Internet.   Right. We, you know, we just had telephones   and the   the dreaded, oh my God, actual newspapers.   Right. You know, most of us didn't read the newspaper because we was too busy drinking coffee and smoked cigarettes. You know? Fuck the newspaper.  

[01:31:40] Bryan Goodwin:

And so, yeah, we got our news from, you know From this and I've I've I've had the I had the CB. I had the CB radio and was listening back to when,   oh, the one trucking company that went off and   just told everybody to stop where you're at.   I can't remember what trucking company it was. It just what they they were going hard, strong, and then all of a sudden, one day, they're like, alright. Y'all need to stop on wherever you're at.   Drop everything off. Do not drive the trucks no more. We're closed. We're done. There's no nothing. I can't remember the name of that truck company, but I remember what you're saying. December?  

[01:32:16] Rich Chelson:

Was in December around Christmas? I think so.  

[01:32:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Arrow Trucking. Arrow. Yes. Yes. That is it. Yeah.  

[01:32:24] Rich Chelson:

I had quit them in May of that year. Oh, shit.  

[01:32:28] Bryan Goodwin:

So you saw the writing on the wall. Yes. I did.   Yep. Yeah. Arrow trucking and yeah. And just, and point the news well over the over the Stevie's. Everybody was talking about that. Oh, yeah. Because because that's the thing. Drivers were stranded.   Yeah.   I mean, literally selling the tires off trucks. The  

[01:32:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Drivers were like, you know,   how the fuck am I gonna get home? Yep. I'm almost I'm a sell whatever I have to off this truck   so I can get enough money so I can tote my ass home for Christmas.   Yep. Yeah. I remember that. Oh, I was pissed.   I was I was hot to think. But you see, in in May of that that year,   I had gone in the shop.   Well, was waiting to go in the shop, got in line.   Water pump was leaking.   Right?   They was talking 3 weeks.   I was gonna sit at that shop in Tulsa   at an Arrow shop   in   in Tulsa. I was gonna sit there for 3 weeks waiting on them to change a fucking water pump.   That's what that's what they told me. And I said, bet.  

I I pulled my shit out the truck,   got a ride, turned the keys in.   Baby, I'm out.   Because sitting,   Arrow, if if you're sitting in the shop, I think you got paid 50 or $75   a day.  

[01:34:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You got paid paid, per diem, essentially.  

[01:34:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But I'm like, no.   I'm not I'm not sitting here making $350   a freaking week   and and and having to sit in this truck   24 hours a day, 7 day was a week. You know?   No. Fuck that. I'm out.   And so I was like, no. I freak packed my shit and got out. Yeah. That was,   09.   Correct.  

[01:34:32] Bryan Goodwin:

That was 09 that happened. Yep. Yep. That's yeah. That's so I I just started in Sandstone when that happened.  

[01:34:40] Rich Chelson:

But, no. And and you see, that's the thing, though. I enjoyed running for Arrow   because,   I mean well, you see   Arrow back then would also run to, like, the northwest,   you know, out to California and shit when when companies would still go west.   Right. You know? And I loved it because I I mean, I always loved running out there.   And,   but,   yeah. They,   and well, now there's hardly any companies that freaking go out west.   It's all it's all transferred. What they do is, like, bring it because Kansas City is out. Yeah.   Is a major hub.  

And the trucks from the west come to Kansas City,   pick up the loads and take it out to,   you know, which Right. Is stupid because I enjoyed running from New York to LA   or, you know, Chicago to Oxnard   or,   you know, wherever or Oakland, you know, I loved it because I could stretch my legs and I could just ride. I didn't have   traffic lights and traffic running up my ass and getting me all worked up. You know, I just hit the cruise, sit back, drink coffee, smoke cigarette,   and just ride, man. It was   I sit low in that seat and look so neat.  

[01:35:56] Bryan Goodwin:

I love it.  

[01:35:59] Rich Chelson:

I I loved it, man. It was it was great. But  

[01:36:03] Bryan Goodwin:

now talking about go back over to CBs. What are the one of the big mystery? Let's see. Since you've you've been doing a hell of a lot more than I have.   One of the big mysteries,   the origins of some of the most annoying   repeated messages that are on the Internet or or that are on CBs.   You know, like the guy who sits there and whispers, I ain't got no panties on.   Or or buffalo   in a brown paper bag. What in the hell is that about   other than just somebody trying to be fucking annoying?  

[01:36:39] Rich Chelson:

Well, the one I ain't got no panties on,   if I remember right, that started up in Tulsa.   And then it spreaded,   cross country.   All over the America.   What was that second one? Say that again. That was,  

[01:36:56] Bryan Goodwin:

white buffalo in a brown paper bag.  

[01:36:58] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that's, oh, dude. That's Smith, man.  

[01:37:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, all I could ever hear I I would just hear the guy   and he he would just hear the from time to time, the there was a, I don't know, period   where it just failed to  

[01:37:15] Rich Chelson:

dude. White buffalo, man.  

[01:37:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. What?   I've been through the shit, so I don't know.  

[01:37:23] Rich Chelson:

You think I do? I mean but but no. I mean I mean, I knew people. Okay? But but, yeah, basically,   you know,   turn it into a powder, and, yeah, it sounds like I'm I'm a big old,   you know, meth head or whatnot, but you throw it a brown brown paper bag and just nail it.  

[01:37:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Really?   Mhmm.  

[01:37:44] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   You can eat it. Put it on grapes.   I'm serious.   I'm dead serious. Take take a grape.   Squeeze it open a little bit. Right?   And just just take a little pinch. Little pinch.   And don't put it between your cheek and gum.   Put it on the grape.  

[01:38:07] Bryan Goodwin:

No. It's okay. I'm gonna pass on that one. But no. No. Honestly, honestly,  

[01:38:12] Rich Chelson:

you see now now now that way, I've tried that way. And it doesn't it it   it freaking doesn't make you jittery. It just it just wakes you up and makes you talk a lot,  

[01:38:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Which is funny because   I remember   it might have been around   2,005.   To   around the turn, turn of the century,   about, like, the first 5 years or so,   somewhere in there.   I remember reading a story   about the great pandemic that is affecting soccer bombs.   And it was meh. And what they were doing is they were taking some, they were taking some and sprinkling a little bit in their coffee.   Yeah. And they're like, hell, man. I get more stuff done and all in yeah. After doing that than I have done all week and just, you know, talking about it's stolen how how great it is except for the fact that eventually, they find themselves addicted to it. And they're like, I've gotta get some more. I gotta have more. Yeah. And and started my hair. I'm like, again again,   a little pinch will do you. A little dab will do you. Let I'll say the shit out of it.  



[01:39:26] Rich Chelson:

Little pinch,   drop in your coffee. It dissolves. Never know it.  

[01:39:31] Bryan Goodwin:

And by god, go to town. Your hair is standing straight up by the end of it, dude.  

[01:39:36] Rich Chelson:

I I I I will not I will not   expand on how I how how I know that. But  

[01:39:46] Bryan Goodwin:

But now it's   so,   what were some of the others? There was   those are the 2 that just annoyed the shit out of me because I would always find I'd be   on a on a different channel. What do you mean?   Shit. On the funny pages.   Right.   And I would hear, you know, some guy just repeatedly just   white buffalo   in a brown paper bag. And you're like,   the hell is this? I don't care about the what you know? And it'll be wouldn't hear anything for a minute or 2 than white buffalo   on a brown paper bag. It's like   Yeah. It Right. It it was easy. Trying to tell me. What are you saying? It was either meth, cocaine, heroin. It's   something like that. Yeah. Just goddamn, man. What the hell? Then, again, then you have the white I have the I have no panties on, dude, who just Or or or,  

[01:40:43] Rich Chelson:

or,   god.   I've got pink panties on, and I'm ready to go to bed or something like that. That one started What was the,   That one started,   god. Where the fuck that start at? Oklahoma City, I think.   The cheese waffles.  

[01:41:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Something about cheese waffles.  

[01:41:03] Rich Chelson:

I've I've heard that one a couple times. I and and I can't to a song, and I can't remember the name of the song. It's  

[01:41:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I think she's coming around the mountain or something like that.   I I Yeah. Something about cheese waffle.  

[01:41:17] Rich Chelson:

I only heard that   I only heard that a couple times, and Yeah.   And I can't remember where I heard it at.  

[01:41:27] Bryan Goodwin:

But now it's just a bunch of those little   little   bits like that that those little,   and that's where   I mean, if it was   if the radio culture was   still   if the radio culture was a lot like the Internet nowadays,   I think a lot of people would actually have a lot of fun on the CV.   Only problem is that it not   because it's   you   one, it's it's   it's pain in the ass to be on these days. That's why I don't like to be on the CD anymore.   Right.   Is but if it was   as   could be as oriented as it used to be, like, in the seventies and eighties late late seventies, early eighties, when everyone had a CB radio in in their Even in the nineties. In their car.   In the nineties, it was Yeah. But you didn't know as many of them.  

Yeah. But there wasn't as many   that had them in their car even.  

[01:42:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. No. We   dude, when   when I started it driving in 91, 92,   a lot of people still had them in their cars.   Wow. It it was about it was about the mid to late nineties was when people started dropping them.   And then about,   the first half of 2000   was when things started going to shit.  

[01:43:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   So  

[01:43:07] Rich Chelson:

I mean yeah. Because, I mean, seriously, like I said,   you know, sometimes we were given an address   and a town   Yeah. And said, get   maybe a phone number if we were lucky.   And, you know, and we didn't have GPS back then.   Nope. We didn't have cell phone. And  

[01:43:28] Bryan Goodwin:

If if you had a lot of money, you might have a MAPS go of the of the, area that you're going to. You might not maybe, but none of us had a lot of money, dude. Come on. I don't.   But  

[01:43:40] Rich Chelson:

but still the thing is is,   I mean, we may do. I mean,   we use a CB. A lot of people we'd roll into a town.   A lot of people would would help us find these places.   Yep. You know, even other truck drivers, you know, if they'd heard us or whatnot, but oh, yeah. But, yeah, now   you ain't gonna get nothing.   Now. The way to get something   is to become a ham.   Jump on a local repeater,   ask for directions,   they'll freaking walk you right to the front door.   Literally.   I mean,   you know, if there's a train track coming up, they'll tell you.   In about 500 feet, you're gonna see a train track, and you're gonna cross it.  

And you can damn near   pinpoint it down to the foot. You roll.   They're like, did you cross tracks yet? And I'm like, yeah. How'd you know?   You know, I was like, what? Are you watching me or something?   You know? But, Triangulating   my signal from what the heck you doing, boy? But, yeah, I was in I I was in Ohio   when I got turned around and and, I jumped on the repeater.   Or no. I was,   yeah, I was in Ohio because, yeah, I wasn't in Indy.   And, these hands   I told them where I was going and the address   and, you know, where I was at.   And they're like, alright.  

Just do what I tell you. Okay. And it went about 30 minutes later. I rolled right up into that place.   So, yeah, it's, I mean, it was, it was really nice. And you see, the thing is   like, like nowadays on the CB, most people say, I hate you fucking truck drivers. Y'all think you're so full of shit and, you know, think you're better than everybody else.   Talk to AM radio operator. They're like, we love you. You bring us food.   You bring us clothes.   You brought us everything we need. Hell, yeah. We'll help you.  

[01:45:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Whole different mindset, man. Hell, yeah. No. I get that. I mean, there's   there's the there's those who are   who understand what,   what's that, and then there's those who   just go off what they're,   what they're what they're   told. And so it's kinda like today. I mean, today, I had one of those fun days where I was annoying the shit out of a limbering.  

[01:46:14] Rich Chelson:

Do test.  

[01:46:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I was I had a,   I had a and I'll I'll I'm gonna bring this up. So I'm gonna go for some really good, vertical,   vertical video here just so I can actually read everything in, in response. But anyhow, have a, friend of my, of my kids   throw a, throw a post up,   and,   and I will I was looked at it, and the the   the,   the post was, high school students, if you will be 18 by November 5,   2024,   you may register to vote. Tell everyone.   And I looked and saw that it was from a group called the League of Women Voters of Illinois Springfield area.   Right. So tell me, what what side of the voting block do you think they are?  

So  

[01:47:09] Rich Chelson:

I mean, that was that was something Hillary Clinton ran on.   So  

[01:47:16] Bryan Goodwin:

so I repeated back because one of the things that I've been hearing a lot of folks talk about is how   Zoomers   and actually some of the oldest,   because the ones that are turning 18 now are actually   the   oldest portion of   Gen Alpha. So you have some really young Gen z,   gen z or zoomers, and then the really old,   gen alphas   who are in this, in this age bracket that this, that this post is referring to.   And so I said, funny thing is, is that most late gen z and older gen alphas are voting for Republican.   So, yeah, let's encourage them to vote.   And then I had this one, I'm gonna assume, gal just because of the name, but, you know, they're liberals. So, I mean, it could be a dude with a chick's name. But,  

[01:48:12] Rich Chelson:

but anyhow, so Cat or dog or giraffe.  

[01:48:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. So but anyhow, they replied with, you hang out with plenty of early legal adults?   Well, your gray hair is older than they are.   I was like,   yeah. They're called my children, and they also have friends. So how else can you be judgmental today? And I would just blah blah. You know, I would just kinda threw that out there. Response to that?  

[01:48:38] Rich Chelson:

I've been trying to  

[01:48:39] Bryan Goodwin:

That response was, if you have daughters, are you happy with,   with are you happy they are losing rights to their own bodies? A corpse has more rights.   And I and   I replied back,   where have they lost rights?   So they completely ignored the fact that I called about on their, on their Right. Right.   I was like, they they didn't answer that one. No. No. They weren't about to answer that one because they they had lost the fight right off the bat. Right. So they started ignoring it. And and,   to to my question about where they lost their rights at was   soon as they,   they get their, they get pregnant,   that fetus matters more. Doctors are refusing care and causing women to go without prenatal treatments on pregnancies   at risk of harming the fetus. If the fetus dies, they could lose their license to face jail time.  

These there are there are women who have died because of the treatment would harm the fetus, but who cares about them? All hail the fetus rights.   And I replied back with, wow.   My daughter lives in Texas and has none of that problem.   She has a a kid who was conceived after RV Wade's,   overturning and was sent back to,   sent back as a a state rights. She had and she had prenatal care. She had no problem finding an OBGYN.   So she still and she still has the right to take care of her body as she sees fit.   So what state does this supposed woman die in? If it happens, then I should be able to find find it with ease. And I'm having a sneaking suspicion that that woman, is a urban legend that sounds plausible to the hysterical panic of a person who believes in a non story.   She then replied with, women are being denied health care that will harm their chances at, at a kid too. I can't get medicine I need because I'm of childbearing years and might wanna have a baby someday.  

And so,   then she jumps back in, and you better pray that she doesn't have another, another child with complications because they'll be forced to prioritize the fetus.   But it's your daughter who is safe,   is safe, who cares about the the countless other incidences. Right?   Only you and yours matter after all the caring about the other. That for Well, yeah. You're right. Me and mine do matter.   That for, socialist liberals, you're a true selfish, conservative American patriot.   So and oh, hey. Here's here's somebody I didn't even know didn't even realize they, jumped in. So it's Sharice.   So that is lit oh, okay. She would jump in and say, and that is literally untrue. Try looking up state laws. You're spewing falsities without anything to back your claim. Even the most strict abortion law,   law states have a clause for the health of the mother mother. And then I jumped in because I didn't even know that that lady jumped, had made a comment.  

Again, where are they be and I replied with, her to to to Becky, which is the liberals.   Again, where are they being denied health care? She said everywhere. If parents,   pre if it presents harm to an actual theoretical fetus, women are getting denied. Heck, I need medications for a condition, but the treatments hurt the fertility. So I'm so I'm asking  

[01:52:01] Rich Chelson:

The same exact words that are being repeated from the media.   Right. Or or or from the so called   democratic   liberal leaders.   They they're just making up words   to that that sound right,   And all these liberals   are swallowing it, trying to force us to   leave it.   And you and   that other person are like,   tell us where this is happening.   Show us proof. And you see, that's the thing. The liberals can't show you proof of anything.   Nothing.   They cannot show you one ounce of fucking proof. Oh, and that's, that's what I'm,  

[01:52:42] Bryan Goodwin:

getting her to show is because then I replied backwards,   wherever   is not,   or everywhere is not a place.   Your theoretical places do not exist. If you want to use an abortion as a form of birth control, or or I get that you wanna use abortion as a form of birth control, but that's not an excuse to kill a child because you have an impulse to get late. You can use a myriad of solutions from condoms to the pill to IUDs, or to stock abstinence.   And then,   another Brian jumped in and said absolutely false to, to Becky. So, so yeah. So, apparently, Becky's getting beat up. No one's buying the   buying the, the response. See, we had another lady reply with   Trump Trump bans 2024. I'm already registered.  

Another one another lady voted right, but I, but never vote Democrat or you'll regret it for the rest of your life. Hopefully, not for Kamala Harris, but another   so everyone is   everyone's kinda beaten up on this poor gal. I almost feel bad for her. Well, you know. No. You see, I don't. I don't because  

[01:53:54] Rich Chelson:

she chose to think like that.  

[01:53:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I know. I know. But if Liberals It's funny to watch to watch,  

[01:54:01] Rich Chelson:

Liberals need to be held accountable   for their statements and for their thought processes.   If you are stupid enough to come up with that dumbass statement   and say it out in public,   fair game, baby. It's it's it's hunting season. Right. My my dog's hunting. I'll tell you right now. My dog will hunt   all over on that, you know? Right. But but see, that's the thing.   Whenever you ask a liberal,   where is your proof? Give me exact proof  

[01:54:33] Bryan Goodwin:

that can't do it. Right. Well, and that's the, that's the, one of the other things that you could definitely tell   that,   this person, this Becky didn't have anything to go on   because   one of the first things they jumped to on that is an insult for me. Oh, you seem a little old to be having hanging around a whole bunch of gen alphas, A lot of 18 year olds. And then, threw another one over at, some lady named Kenna. It said, you look over 60, not 18.   And Kenna replied, and you look like a man or a woman combined that can't get laid and still live with a parent.  

[01:55:11] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.  

[01:55:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Hell, yeah. Just the exact model your side wants.  

[01:55:17] Rich Chelson:

You you know, and see and see, that's the thing. You know, this is   you know? And and this is honestly good to hear because   regular people need to stand up. But the thing is,   though, doing it online is one thing, and it's great.   But at the same time,   I'd rather see them do it do it to their face than just shut them down in public. Just totally fucking embarrass them. You know, maybe maybe they'll they'll stop and think about their position.   I doubt it, but, you know, I Right. I'm somewhat of an optimist   once in a while.  



[01:55:55] Bryan Goodwin:

So But, yeah, sadly, old poor old poor Becky's got a whole slew of of folks who are beat up on her. Hey.   She's the one who started it. She's the one who was like, oh, come on.  

[01:56:07] Duuude-Ron :

Make stupid comments, win stupid prizes. Yep. Exactly.  

[01:56:13] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.   Yeah. No. I just   let's say this is why this no. No.   I do I do know a few Democrats.   I wouldn't go so far as Liberals, but yeah. Oh, no. There's 2 different types. Because there's  

[01:56:30] Bryan Goodwin:

and they don't make them   all that often. They're very, very rare, but there are actual literal   conservative Democrats.   Now I don't know what exactly they stand for   because I that the the   the   conservative   Democrat is such a boring preacher to me.  

[01:56:52] Rich Chelson:

No. Actually, I okay.   RFK Junior   was a conservative democrat.   He was he was mostly for the people.   Now now he was he was of the old school democratic ways.   Okay?   Which which they've always wanted the money. They've always wanted the big government. They've always wanted to, you know, but yet at the same time,   the conservative   Democrat always thought that they could do both, have the big government spend all the money and still help the American people.   And which back when when bread was   15¢ a loaf and gas was 25¢ a gallon,   you could do that. Right. You know? I mean, there was an ass load of money around, but   now it it's a little harder to do that.  

You know? I get   it. And now and now I mean,   fuck. Democrats,   they just wanna control you   and and tell all the   all us,   independents,   conservatives, or whatnot that you will call me ma'am.   You know? And this is a, you know, 6 foot 8 motherfucker,   beer down to here,   you know, walking around like this saying, yo, bitch.   Sorry.   I ain't calling you Susie.  

[01:58:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Ain't happening. Ain't playing the game.   Uh-uh. Sorry, dude. It's spam.   Whatever, sir.  

[01:58:24] Rich Chelson:

Right. Man, and see, that's the thing. You know?   These people think we should bow down to them.   We should give them what they want. We're not keeping them from getting what they want. Right.   They it is this is a free country.   If you want something bad enough, go get it.   Yeah. It it it depends on how you go and get it as to   what determines   if you stay out of jail or go to jail.   Right. But, you know, either way, go get it. If you want it, go get it. I'm not holding you up.   But   they're trying to say, oh, you're holding us up. We can't do this. You do whatever the fuck you want. I'll go out. I don't care. Yeah. There's there's nothing just don't care. You know?  

[01:59:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. It   well, and, I mean, it kinda like there is   a big kerfuffle,   well, it's a it's a bit of a controversy that's kicked up   in, some of the Instagram. There is a   there is a lady   on Instagram.   I think she's also on TikTok, but most people talk about her through Instagram   that,   I can't think of her name. I wanna say it's Theresa, but I don't think that's right.   But, yeah,   black lady   who married a white guy,   and   she is   a traditional wife.   They Mhmm. Her her husband grew up as a, as a Mennonite.   Got it. And and all that. And so they're they do a lot of things very,   very simply. And they're on a farm, so she got she kinda   both of her videos and stuff that that she does are just, you know, day in the life of type of stuff. You know, I get up in the morning, and I we go and   she did,   a video   last year   of her   being   she dressed modestly whenever she is around   her,   her   in laws because, well, they're Mennonites. And so as I'm filler former respect for them, she dresses in in a in a approved gown and all that and covers her head and and wants her supposed to. And she caught so much shit for that   because one, he was the only black woman who was seeing in with all these other with these other white folks   singing a hymn.  

And you would have thought that she was   that she was, you know, on her on her hands and knees scrubbing the floor.   And and they were they were calling her all sorts of horrible names or something. Because the one side   wants racism to be. They won't they have to have racism.   And they they   they when they see   any form of harmony, they have to go in and go, oh my god. Look at that. She's just horrible. Look the that would they talked about the, about the mother-in-law,   like, going that that old lady over on the side looks like she has nothing but hate in her heart, and she and all this other stuff. But she was just going,   y'all have no clues to what these people are about. No. And then,   last apparently last week, she   she was,   talking about   how   her their bed was starting to get a little soft and that she was needing some new pillows.  

Right. And so what did she do?   Oh, my nose is itching off my face real quick.   What did she do? She went out into the field,   and god forbid, she picked cotton.   Oh, shit. Yeah. You woulda thought that there was a slave master on that on that woman's back the whole damn time the way that the, the black community.   Or well, it actually wasn't all black community. There was a couple black,   black folks who who commented. But there's plenty of white chicks who were just all incensed about it too.   About how unjust it was if she was picking cotton. She was like, oh,   I need a bed. I need to make sure my bed's because have you ever slept on a cotton filled bed? One of the best things to ever do. And she said talked about how she loved to go and   dig down and shoots, commenting on how beautiful it is. But at the same time, she was also making little little jokes about it. She was like going, I don't know. I just it just seems like it's in my nature that I get come out here and spend time in the cotton field. It's been stuff. And so she was having fun. She was because she was making fun of the of the, of the irony of it all. Right. Right.  



[02:03:08] Rich Chelson:

And She was enjoying the experience. Having fun. She loved the process  

[02:03:13] Bryan Goodwin:

of picking the cotton, getting the bag full of cotton Mhmm. Then taking it home   and going through each little cotton, cotton ball and picking out the seeds.   And then taking it and breaking it up, doing whatever she needed to do with it to stuff   the pillows and enter her mattress to fluff the back stuffs for.   Right. And, yeah. You would've thought that they were that again, like, she had some type of some type of, a massa on on her back just whooping the shit out of her, getting her picked at the picked at the car.   You know? And that and she was like, why did she like? And she was like, oh, y'all gotta get a lie. Y'all y'all just  

[02:03:54] Rich Chelson:

try to keep stuff going that has no reason to be going. No. You're right. And you see, that's the thing. Shit like that only shows a mentality   or or the or the IQ   of the people watching it. And I don't I don't care I don't care if you're a fucking genius going to MIT or, you know, whatever.   Your fucking mentality, your IQ is actually,   you know,   freaking a 100 points lower   if if you're if you're sitting here and and you have to talk about someone like this. Right.   I mean, this person chose to go out in this black woman.   Let's just call a spade a spade here. This black or African American woman chose,   of her own free will and volition, to go out into this cotton field and pick cotton so she could sleep,   have a good night sleep, and have new pillows.  



[02:04:52] Bryan Goodwin:

There is nothing wrong with that. No. You know? Probably, actually, it's a little healthier for you to sleep on cotton than it is on   the on the, on the foam rubber,   memory foam that a lot of people are sleeping on. Right. But I gotta say I I love my memory foam. Oh, no. I don't. I don't like my my memory foam all has has developed Alzheimer's.   So  

[02:05:17] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[02:05:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It's just flat as a pan a fucking pancake, man.   It's just a dense piece of foam. It's about   maybe about 4 inches thick. Yeah. It was both developer folder. Yeah. It and like I said, it's developed, it's developed Alzheimer's. It's it's   no memory whatsoever.  

[02:05:35] Rich Chelson:

So How old is it?  

[02:05:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, probably about 3 years old. 3, 4. Really? Yeah.  

[02:05:42] Rich Chelson:

That's weird.  

[02:05:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's that's that's memory foam. I can't I've not had memory foam last anywhere   to a decent length.  

[02:05:51] Rich Chelson:

Let's see. When I get mine,   21, I think.  

[02:05:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah? I'm  

[02:05:59] Rich Chelson:

I'm coming up on 3 years. Mine's still holding up.  

[02:06:03] Bryan Goodwin:

But Yeah. I I will actually, I enjoy   the king-size,   never flat,   top of, top of pillows. Basically, it's got the normal stuffing, but inside the middle of it, it's got a,   just a thick,   fairly stiff foam   foam core in it. Okay.   So if it it's there. It holds my head up, but I'm because I'm   my pillows will start to go flat enough to where it's causing me pain now. So I wake up. I I think I've got tennis elbow, and I didn't realize I played tennis in my sleep.  

[02:06:43] Rich Chelson:

So Well, well, you know, believe it or not, the, the, way your neck   gets positioned tonight  

[02:06:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh. Affect your elbow and all that shit. Yeah. It'll fix this this elbow, it's still on it. I'll wake up, and I'll be able to go.   Try tomorrow,  

[02:07:14] Rich Chelson:

man. Right. Right. Yeah. They see see, that's the thing.   Yeah. It takes me about 2 hours   to get get Get all   Yeah. Get get limbered up. Everything, you know, moving enough to where I can actually get   actually move at a decent pace.   You know? So, yeah, it's it's   and it's funny too because   yeah. I don't know. It's just I it's just like, fuck it. I'm gonna sit here and drink a pot of coffee,   take my pills, and take headache powders until   I can move.  

[02:07:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh. Well yeah. And but I'll also say that a great thing doesn't help matters at all.   I bet not. I'll suck. I get to sleep right on the edge. So you got that wall on your on your mattress.   Mhmm.   It's not as as comfortable   on that wall,   on that edge because it's all just   vertical support stuff right there. So, yeah, there's several times I woke up and I'm it it's like I've had had an elephant sitting on my kids just   like, alright. I'm gonna go move.   So I know that it's a combination   of 1 of them how I'm sleeping,   the fact that I'm fat,   and then I've got a great day in my bed.  

Yeah. So  

[02:08:39] Rich Chelson:

that doesn't help with,  

[02:08:41] Bryan Goodwin:

movement very well the next day. No. But I do enjoy the shit out of having a great day in his bed when it's wintertime.  

[02:08:48] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I don't doubt that I did. Because, I mean, that dog, Jeff,  

[02:08:52] Bryan Goodwin:

one, she loves she she hates being cold, so she'll crawl underneath the blankets.   And so she usually goes head first into the blanket, so I get the butt end of her.   And that's great because her butt is so comfortable. You just wrap your arms around it. You just you just go to sleep.   And you've got this little heater just sitting right next to you. And just keeps you nice and warm and toasty, and   and she's happy because she's covered up and and and stuff. So, you know, it's a it's a match made in heaven in the wintertime. Summertime, that fucking sucks.  

[02:09:30] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[02:09:31] Bryan Goodwin:

But   That is fun. I can, I can deal with 3 months to, to have those, those,   those 6 months worth of, decent,   a decent weather? So  

[02:09:46] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   Yeah. It is.   Yeah. I don't know. I I still I still have haven't decided if I'm getting a dog or not. So  

[02:09:56] Bryan Goodwin:

we're gonna get you one.   I won't get I won't subject to a doodle, though, because those things got got too much fucking hair.  

[02:10:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. I no. I wouldn't no. I I wouldn't do one like that. I think you I think a basset hand would do you real good. No.   Yeah. Well, I mean I mean, they're just short white dog with long ass ears.   No. Just bat you.   I mean, like, oh, shut up, boy.  

[02:10:28] Bryan Goodwin:

No. She would She'd be she'd be a great dog for you.  

[02:10:34] Duuude-Ron :

Definitely definitely need to get definitely need to get one from the pound  

[02:10:38] Rich Chelson:

if you get one. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. I would.   Yeah. I   would.  

[02:10:45] Duuude-Ron :

Well, get it you dog.  

[02:10:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Or get yourself a great dane, for the rescue.  

[02:10:53] Rich Chelson:

Dude, I don't have a big enough house for a great day. Oh, yeah. You do.  

[02:10:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Not to mention, I mean, they make cleaning   the dishes   a lot easier because you should put them in the dish in the sink, and about an hour later, they're clean.   So all you have to do is just run them through the dishwasher.  

[02:11:12] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:11:13] Bryan Goodwin:

It's amazing. It's incredible.   You don't have to feed the dog near as much. It still gets fat, but it's great.  

[02:11:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I I don't know. Like, I mean,   oh, like I said, I've got I've got a lot of things to   look at, think about, ruminate on.   You know? Just because   there's there's so much I wanna do,   you know,   with this house to this house. You know? I I need to sit down and   kinda   make a plan   for, like, the next 6 months, the next year,   2 years, 5 years, 10 years. You know?   And then, of course, you know, fill in the rest of that time   with   because,   man, the   just like the,   there's car shows coming. In fact, there's cruising the coast.   It'll be here, I think,   1st part of October, if I remember right.  

So K. Like a jeep in the coast where it was nothing but jeeps.   Well Uh-huh. Cruising the coast is   nothing but old cars  

[02:12:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay. From  

[02:12:32] Rich Chelson:

Asakugula   to,   Bay Saint Louis.   And and that's that's about 60 freaking miles.   I mean, it's gonna be just all kinds of old cars.   They'll they'll have events. There's,   there's something else that's fixing to happen. It's not cruising the coast. It's something else.   And, it's a big to do every year in, Pascagoula   is,   part of it. Maybe it is cruising the coast. I don't know. But, yeah, it's it's huge.  

[02:13:06] Bryan Goodwin:

And But I just had a weird idea. Just keep going. I'm I'm playing through an idea real quick. Okay. But but and see in there. And then  

[02:13:15] Rich Chelson:

and then,   in November,   I've been seeing   spot stuff here and there of,   things,   you know, happening down around here, you know, little festivals and shit like this.   And then in November,   well, there's, Tennessee Trail Jam.   I wanna get back to Pigeon Forge this year and see the fall, you know, see the colors   Uh-huh. And everything like this. I mean, I there's a lot I really wanna freaking do, and I've got to   sit down, line it out,   and get it, you know, kinda   straight.   Okay. You know? And then choose and then choose what I wanna do.  

[02:13:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   Now I don't know. This is   what was rolling around my head just a moment ago.   Animals. I'm sure they've already got something very similar to this,   but I wonder how you would pull this off.   Old dog   for old vet,   because one of the hardest things to adopt out is an old dog.   Right. Maybe only has 3, 4 years alive left in them   on average.   But, you know, they're they're older dogs. No one really wants to,   adopt them because they're gonna have medical problems, things like that.   Wonder what it would take to have   a   an organization   that   matches old dogs up to old pets.  



[02:14:56] Rich Chelson:

We just had to start a nonprofit, which  

[02:14:59] Bryan Goodwin:

you you've done that. Yeah. I've done I've I've helped helped helped helped the one helped,   even one class. But I've been just  

[02:15:08] Rich Chelson:

But but and and that's the thing.   You, you'd probably have to find a couple of shelters around you   and at first,   and, maybe,   you know, find a, you know, state veteran's home or whatnot and talk with them and network and   try and get, you know, figure out what what would be needed   and everything and see the thing is   you would have to get probably a veteran   veterinarian,   I meant.   Right. To to donate the health care or,   you know, ask for donations and use that for the health care for the dog so it doesn't cost a veteran anything.   You know, they I mean, it's it's doable.  

Is it gonna happen in a year? No.  

[02:15:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no, I didn't think it's gonna happen. This being something that would probably end up have to take about 4 or 5 years. So let one of our wonderful listeners who,   hears this and goes, that's a damn good idea. I'm gonna start that up and alright. Go for it. You know, go for it. Yeah. But no. And I mean, there's I mean, it's  

[02:16:14] Rich Chelson:

it's just a matter of of   basically   getting everything lined out and,   you know, getting that, 501c3   nonprofit status.   Yeah. You know, then, you know, the business license and all that.   In fact, you can actually do it,   not even as a 501c3.  

[02:16:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Just as an organization. Yeah.  

[02:16:39] Rich Chelson:

You know,   you know, and then later on, you know, if you wanted to get the status, you could.   But, you know, it's it yeah. It wouldn't be too hard.   You know? And you could sell T shirts   or wristbands   or, you know,   all kinds.   I I mean, it's   that's honestly a   really cool idea. I I don't I don't know if there's a,   if there is a thing   like that. Sir?  

[02:17:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Alex. Just because I've got you know, I know that   that's who at least have a dog, have something they have to take care of   are going to feel   typically feel better about themselves. Not always. I mean, there's never anything that's always  

[02:17:33] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:17:35] Bryan Goodwin:

But especially older ones that are still just kinda they're still living by themselves.   They're   they're not ready for the, for the old folks home we had or the or the old old bed home the house,   center yet. But   to have an old dog because an older dog is not gonna run run around. It's not gonna chew up everything. It's just kinda glad to have a comfortable place to lay down at. Right. Have someone to scratch behind the air from time to time, take care of them, take them for a Jeep ride from time to time. You know?   And and show off good time. Let them have a good life. What? You calling me old here? No. No. I'm you're a junior.  

You're you're you're still on prime time. Old doesn't have till you have that.  

[02:18:23] Rich Chelson:

Well well,   well, you were saying something about, you know, taking them for a Jeep ride, and I thought I thought I thought you was trying to slip in that, you know,  

[02:18:33] Bryan Goodwin:

I was trying to No. Not Okay. That's not you're not there yet, but now I know it's it's gonna be old old cheap runners around there. Well, yeah. Doctors that just probably   still got their World War 2   Willie that they bought for, bought right after the war. And  

[02:18:50] Rich Chelson:

God, I would love I would love to have one of those.   Those. Yeah. I mean I mean, I would I would run it just like I got it. I it would be stock, dude.  

[02:19:01] Duuude-Ron :

I would just There's one guy in this area   that has   a Jeep   from the Vietnam War   that has still the original   complete   soft top,   all the radios,   all the antenna mounts   that originally   came with this Jeep.   Damn. And he   and he has a trailer   to go along with it.  

[02:19:32] Rich Chelson:

Man.  

[02:19:33] Bryan Goodwin:

And, I mean, this Well, I thought it was always is in  

[02:19:36] Duuude-Ron :

is in   pristine   shape. I mean, he restored it   from the Vietnam War,  

[02:19:48] Rich Chelson:

and  

[02:19:50] Bryan Goodwin:

I  

[02:19:53] Duuude-Ron :

I mean,  

[02:19:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, releasing you? It is.  

[02:20:00] Duuude-Ron :

I think so, though. I don't know. Are you?  

[02:20:04] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. That's 3 words.   No.   Out of all that you said, we got 3 words.  

[02:20:13] Duuude-Ron :

Really? That's   well, anyway,   this guy has a v or Jeep from the Vietnam War that has everything original   that came with that Jeep, radios,   the whole 9 yards, the soft top.   And it looks like it   came   to this day, it still looks like it never seen war   like it just was produced.  

[02:20:39] Rich Chelson:

Say that? That would be a cool dude.  

[02:20:42] Duuude-Ron :

And he have   the trailer to go along with it.  

[02:20:46] Rich Chelson:

That's cool.  

[02:20:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. And that's the thing I that I found because you can actually look up on, YouTube, and there's videos   of people who's they're you can still get   the Willie. Well, he's I mean, you can't I'm sure you'd probably still buy it, but they have,   showed how easy it was.   They because they used to ship   the the Willys over in crates.   Mhmm.   Yeah. And so they would undo Yeah. The crate. You would take all 4 wheels out. You'd set them out. You'd take the axles and set them down and put the wheels up. And you get there all the put the engine in place, get everything taken care of. Then it's like 4 guys pick up the body, move it over, set it down, bolt it up. And and it was just it's just a quick assemble. Might take you about 2 hours or 4 hours to to put together   and away you'd go, fire it up and off you went. And it was it it worked just fine.  



[02:21:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And that's, I mean, that's that's exactly how it was built   and and packaged.  

[02:21:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. You know? It just yep. It it just That's exactly how they were sent over. Yeah.  

[02:21:53] Bryan Goodwin:

And they just That would be awesome. Just to have somebody go back through and make that   a make that as just a sellable,   sellable package.  

[02:22:04] Rich Chelson:

Well, you see the see the bad thing is,   you wouldn't be allowed to,   drive it on the road because   it would basically have no quote, unquote safety features.  

[02:22:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, sure. It would. You'd put safety bumper on it. Just right on the front, safety bumpers.  

[02:22:22] Rich Chelson:

Right. But but, yeah, but but you see, that's the thing. You know? And see, this is why this is why I would love to find an original,   like, World War 2 or Vietnam   era,   Willys that   because   they can't keep that off the road   as as as long as it's, you know, it's got lights and turn signals and brakes.   Yeah. You know? It's it's legal to drive.   You know, and that's why. But yeah. No. It would be great for someone to make something like that, but you see the problem is,   Fiat Chrysler   would throw a fit  

[02:23:00] Bryan Goodwin:

and sue the hell out of you. Yeah. But then they would also go off and realize, oh, wait a minute.   We we're we're, we're needing   to we're we're low on we're behind   behind our our income because we went off and,   spent all this money on on EV shit that no one's buying. So maybe if we did that,   we lost lost dude. Yeah. Lost dude. He went above a,   You know, it would   you know, maybe if, you know, they'd saw saw something like that, they'd be going, hey. Look at this. We could just   build a   build our,   get our Jeeps, our our make a replica of the Jeep, pack it up, package it up into into these wooden crates. Or hell, you can even   be, be even more non,   non environmental friendly and and pack it up plastic and, you know, ship it over to whoever wanted to buy it. You could probably even charge   charge $30,000  

[02:23:59] Rich Chelson:

for it, which is 4 times the original price. I'm sure. Right. God forbid. God forbid if you if you did something that wasn't,   environmentally   sound.   But, no, you see, that's the thing. There's there's a company.   It's, it's an Indian company,   Mahindra.   Okay?  

[02:24:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. The tractor company. Yeah. Yeah. Well,  

[02:24:24] Rich Chelson:

they held,   they had gotten permission from Willie's himself back in the forties   to make   a Jeep style   side by   side.   You know? All like this. Right? Right.   They made them for years.   And that now mind you, they got   the, permission and and the license granted   from Willie's himself before Willie's ever sold out to anybody.   Right. From the original owners.   And then,   they were they were making them all the way up until   I wanna say it's 2017   or 2015,   something like that. Fiat Chrysler   threw him in a   lawsuit   just because   they were citing copyright infringement.   And so what ensued   over the next 4 or 5 years, because you couldn't buy a fucking Mahindra   in the US at all,   is   Mahindra   to finally end this this standoff because   Fiat Chrysler   wasn't gonna back down   because they were saying that's our design.  

You need to pay us. You need to blah blah blah.   Freaking Andrew was like, no. We don't.   We got this shit legally before y'all ever saw it.   But,   they retooled   and made a cross between a Jeep and a Toyota FJ   Okay. In the front end.   And,   I mean, it's okay, but   I want one of the older ones because, I mean, it dead up looks like a tiny Jeep.  

[02:26:21] Bryan Goodwin:

It it no. It's seriously dead up. That looks like they got little they got little they got little it's the best size of a go kart   that you could buy over at, over at Tractor Supply.  

[02:26:33] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm. Yeah.   Yeah. I see those are they're they're about what? 21, $22100?  

[02:26:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah.   So, yeah, I could go I could go jeep with you then.   Yeah. We yeah. You could. You could. We'll just, we'll just make sure. I mean, no, it's even got a manual shifter on the darn thing. You know, at least it looks like a manual shifter.  

[02:26:58] Rich Chelson:

No. No. I've no. No. I've seen them, but no. You see that Sigma Hendra.   I mean, it was it was probably   well, it was the size of the original Willys, I I would say. Yeah.   And, I mean, I love the look on them.   And and, I mean, they had ground clearance. I mean, I had read the specs, and I was trying to get one.   And, by the time Mahendra started putting them out   again   after the lawsuit,   they came up with this   screwed up Cross the coin.  

[02:27:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Come  

[02:27:32] Rich Chelson:

glad. Come yeah. It's late enough. I can't do it. But,   but yeah. No. And and   that just urged me because the older ones,   I mean, looked dead up like a Willie's, man. Ah. And I I loved it, but I was like, alright. Whatever.   But you see, that's the thing. Why did Fiat Chrysler   have any say so? Why did a judge entertain the thought?  

[02:28:00] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Because it's Chrysler.  

[02:28:03] Rich Chelson:

No. It it'd say it don't matter.   Oh, I know it doesn't matter, but You know? I mean, these guys had physical proof, black and white proof.  

[02:28:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, so did so did, the Dublin Doctor Pepper Bottling Company   had actual proof that they were allowed to make,   to make the original   Doctor Pepper.   Right. The original formula.   They they were the only one they were the only bottling company that could actually use still use the 1024   advertising   because it was that's what pure cane sugar   allowed you to do was to get a pickup. You could drink 1 at 10 o'clock, 2 o'clock, and 4 o'clock, and you had energy to go through throughout the full day.   Then McKinney Bottling Company was, like, going, honey,   that's alright. We want that.  

And so they said, you know what? We're gonna we're gonna sue them for coffee fry infringement.   And Donald has been doing it so long. They've got they actually have a Doctor Pepper Day   that they do. But but see, okay. Doctor Pepper Day. They actually even changed the name of the town to Doctor Pepper, Texas.  

[02:29:21] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Okay. Now and see and see, that's cool. But you see, this is   like, like, Mahindra, like, like the devil and Doctor Pepper company and all like that, you know,   and, and others across this great United States and probably the world.   Why do judges even entertain the thought   when when when when one company   clearly has   ill   irrefutable   proof   of their operation.   Why does a judge even entertain it?   Entertain the thought of maybe it's wrong.  

[02:30:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Because they that's that's part of being, being a judge. If you have a dispute,   you take it before the judge. The judge lift the one one side to the other side. I understand that. No. What  

[02:30:17] Rich Chelson:

what I'm asking is why didn't a judge look at both sides   and say, dude, you're fucking stupid. Get out of my courtroom.  

[02:30:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Mainly because   more than likely what happened is the   the   larger company   had better lawyer.   This is the reason why if you never   get sued by Disney.   If Disney says, if you don't stop, we're gonna sue you. You better fucking stop. Because if you don't stop,   dizzy lawyers are gonna come after you and you're gonna win.   You had stopped   because they will take you for everything and you can't get out of it.   Disney has got some of the most   powerful lawyers   at their at their home.   Because that's one thing about about   about court. Yeah. There if your if each other is   is able to afford decent lawyers, then you're gonna have a fair hearing.  

If you're the little guy and you're going up against, you know, Disney,   you're gonna get your apt chewed up because this one, they have enough money. They can just tie things up in court for  

[02:31:36] Rich Chelson:

centuries if they want. Well no. Yeah. No. That I mean, I mean, that is true because, I mean,   they don't stop making money.  

[02:31:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Now they don't stop making money and they and and longer you'd wait. The lawyer's the one it's just hold off because then they don't have to work, but they get still charged, charged everybody   their their hourly rate.   Right.  

[02:31:57] Rich Chelson:

So yeah. I mean, it's it just Wait. Easier. And it's Well, see, that's where that's where, I mean,   that's where, for me, it's it's it's a lot simpler.   We need to make   changes   in the way things are done.  

[02:32:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it would but at the same time, this is the best that we have. This is the best that you have the bet a better chance of getting a fair trial   here in the US  

[02:32:23] Rich Chelson:

than you do any place else. Well, yeah. Okay. Yeah. No. No. I can't argue that point.  

[02:32:29] Bryan Goodwin:

But, you you know, it just It's not it's still not it's not a 100% fair. And I and I Oh, yeah. That frustration   because it's like, goddamn, man. They weren't they they had the proof, but yet for how whatever reason,   they were able to keep things tied up. This is like, alright. Well, we have to change it. Somewhere along the way, they got   they got the the idea twisted around that that they're   they have full rights to everything.   And maybe that's how   Jeep's,   Jeep set their, their stuff up when they sold to to   to Chrysler.  

And   so they, like, no. We've got it all. Like, except for this. And, yeah, they and the the, Mahindra could have probably have taken whatever, you know, whatever it was, whatever the final ruling was and gone, you know what?   Let's appeal to it. Because, I mean, eventually what they did is they just kinda went going,   man, it's just easier to retool this bitch. Let's make it look a little different. We're gonna save a shit ton of money. They go off and beaten the shit out of out of Daimler Chrysler so that they actually  

[02:33:40] Rich Chelson:

But but see this and and, actually, it's not Daimler or Chrysler. Daimler's out of it. Yeah. So It's Fiat Chrysler of America. Old about to remember Daimler.   No. I know. I yeah. Same here. Me too. Well, hey. I was I'm I'm old enough to remember Chrysler themselves   Yeah. With, Lehigh and Coco. So yeah. I remember  

[02:34:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Mercury. Oh, yeah. Right? I mean, dude, that's that's what I got. Mercury. You went to a Lincoln Mercury dealer. That's, you know, Telkirk.   So  

[02:34:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You don't find that no more, do you? No. No. Yeah.  

[02:34:16] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Lake of Continental.   You know? Damn thing was 40 feet long.   Yep.   Oh, dude. It was fucking awesome, though. Oh, who was it? There was somebody who was doing a video about about the Lake of Continental,   and they showed the differences.   So they, like, pulled into a, pulled up, sent a a, modern day,   SUV.   Mhmm. And then the car they pulled the the the Chrysler in   and and, the Lincoln in and,   and stopped. And they stopped in the driver's seat driver's,   the front seat of the driver's window was at the back seat   of the SUV.  

Yeah. It's like, there's all this hood. There's like 10 foot of hood. Then you've got the car and   then you got another 10 foot of trunk. Yes.  

[02:35:09] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Yes. You, I mean, you've got a freaking lane yacht of mud surrounding you.   And, yes, it took a big power planet to run it and it took a lot of gas. But by God, if you got in a wreck, you were walking away from that bitch. You were walking away from that dead. Exactly. I mean, you might be limping a little bit. You might have a scrape or 2. You know? I'd have a bash bash eye eyebrow because you're in it pretty good. Then wipe the dash. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know? But but yeah. And seeing that's the thing. Those cars,   well, hell, my first car was,   68 Bel Air.  

Wasn't as as near as big as the Lincoln, but it it was it was about the size of I mean, rolling rolling Detroit Steel and then the left. Oh, dude. I mean, I love the hell out of it. I mean, I loved rolling Detroit Steel.   I mean, if, if, Detroit made any steel cars, I would love to roll them. Oh, hell yeah. You know, but they don't. It's all aluminum or plastic. Plastic these days. Yep. You know? So it's it's just yeah. It was sad. It was sad. I watched the fall of Detroit   literally in person because I was Oh, there. I was hauling shit into Detroit, man, and just   man, it it it hurt.  



[02:36:28] Bryan Goodwin:

It hurt me. I blew up the dead. Because  

[02:36:31] Rich Chelson:

I remember the first time   I went to Detroit,   dude, life. This was the early nineties.   I mean, you roll in on 94.   You've got a big old Goodyear fucking tire that's every bit of 30 feet fucking tall.   20, 30 feet wide. I mean, it's just huge.   And it says Goodyear on it. And I mean,   all the buildings you had Ford Chrysler,   you had everybody,   you had the big 3.   Okay.   And, and you could see their factories   and every factory was bustling.   I mean,   the only way you didn't have a job is because you were lazy.   Yep.   And I mean I mean, the freaking auto workers roll into a parking lot, and there's fucking cars everywhere. People just fucking working.   It was it was just awesome.  

And  

[02:37:30] Bryan Goodwin:

it wasn't Yeah. But the the funny thing about that about those about those parking lots, though, is well, I don't know about in in in the nineties so much, but I from what I heard back in the sixties seventies and even in the early eighties,   You weren't allowed to park in those parking lots unless you had the corresponding car.   So if you were working at a Ford, at a Ford factory, you everybody in there had a Ford. Right. You pulled in with with a a Datsun.   You weren't allowed in. Right. Yeah. No. I now I think I think they had probably,  

[02:38:07] Rich Chelson:

say, relaxed the rules a little bit, you know, out of nineties. But I can believe   back in the sixties seventies, oh, yeah. If you worked for Ford,   you were brand loyal, man. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm not sure if I'm looking for You know, Chevrolet or Yep. Chrysler.   You are brand fucking loyal. You did not cross.   You know?   But but and see, that's the thing. So by   the late   nineties, early 2000,   dude   That was gone. Yeah.   Detroit was was a ghost town.   Yeah. And and I would roll through and see all these old plants   that I saw alive   just fucking brimming   with with just everything.  

I'd roll right past them and it looked like no one was ever there. Yep.   Look looks like they'd been empty for 50 years, and it's like, no. They haven't been.   Yeah. It just,   yeah. I just   I don't know. I just got wound up on that because that hurts, man. Detroit was   Detroit was an awesome city. Come on. That was Motown. Motor City, man. Oh, I know, dude. I mean And  

[02:39:20] Bryan Goodwin:

It was great. There's a lot of ways he could point a finger at it and and and talk about who who and what and when and where and how the the fall came about. But, yeah, it was it's fall fall of a of a good good deal. And sadly,   I mean, hell, we don't make   we   American made cars aren't made in America anymore. No. But, yeah, Japanese cars are made in America. Exactly. Like, Toyota. Toyota. Yeah.  

[02:39:50] Rich Chelson:

Lot of Toyotas are made right here in America. Yep. So, I mean, I mean, honestly, think about it. Honestly, think about it. So do we have imports now or what?  

[02:40:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Not really? Technically, no. Because that's that's one of the reasons why Toyota put, put their Tundra   plant in Texas where they did it. It's so that they're already in the states. So you're you're not gonna get the tariff   smack that,   that they would. But at the same time, I mean, that's   so the the big mega,   mega   factories that are getting built down in down in Mexico, they're they're getting,   they're I mean, they're hoping to be China's hoping to be able to get around the,   get around the the tariff by doing the,   out of NAFTA.  



[02:40:44] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:40:45] Bryan Goodwin:

But   but, don't think that's gonna help, matter any because I know Trump's gonna put a stop to that. But Right. Well, I don't know. I just I just saw an article that said  

[02:40:57] Rich Chelson:

Harris  

[02:40:58] Bryan Goodwin:

bumped up another 5 points, which I don't I don't freak to leave these polls. Well, now you because Well, you can you can, man. You can't because   it's one of those things.  

[02:41:12] Rich Chelson:

How can you? The the the   the polls are maybe used between   a 105100   people.  

[02:41:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no. There there usually a more bit more than that, but the polls that   the   polls you can't there's polls you can trust, the polls that yeah. And but what they what's facts they said that,   that Kamala picked up an extra, you know, 5% of the voters or whatever   is   is   basically   just those undecided who just literally just float between the 2, and they just like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Like that. And they think that they that they don't even really pay attention to   what was actually being talked about.   Right. They just think, oh, well, Kamala, she she held her ground and stuff. She did a good job. So, yeah, I'd vote for her without ever checking to go, oh, wait a minute. No one checked on the 25 different lies that she made. Right.  

[02:42:09] Rich Chelson:

And and you see, that's the thing. Why are they harping on the fucking lies?   Politicians have been lying since the beginning of fucking time. This is not Well, thanks again. Because it's it's the,  

[02:42:21] Bryan Goodwin:

like the, because the fact checkers in on social media. It's Everybody knows who get what side gets fact checked  

[02:42:30] Rich Chelson:

more than the other. Well, and I mean I mean, right now, it's the freaking Republicans. They're are getting  

[02:42:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Getting fact check. The shit checked out of them. But Yeah. Again, that is that's the But still That is but  

[02:42:43] Rich Chelson:

but you see, that's the thing. No one does anything with the fucking facts.   So why why fact check?  

[02:42:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Because You can fact check. You get the chance to a lie. You get the chance to stand around and go, we're the victim. We got we got we didn't get a fact or we got fact checked. We're the other person.  

[02:43:01] Rich Chelson:

You see that   that is that is a lazy way of doing things. Oh, I agree. It is. You know, if way everybody If likes to do it. If you were gonna call someone a liar, if you're gonna call someone out as a liar,   have your proof in hand,  

[02:43:18] Bryan Goodwin:

and then call them out. Make them answer for it. Or get them, yeah, get them to answer, you know, get them to actually state the fact that they've,   they've   come up with 2 different answers at the same damn time. And so which one were you lying about? Were you lying about this, or were you lying about that? Exactly. But but you see, that's the thing. No one I mean, everyone says,  

[02:43:38] Rich Chelson:

oh, Donald Trump lied or or or this freak Ted Cruz lied. You know? He didn't he didn't say this right, didn't he? He lied. He lied. He lied.   What did he lie about?   What did he lie about? Tell us what the lie is.   Right.   You know? I I don't know. I I it just it just you see, this is why I I hate fucking elections.   I hate   I hate this bullshit because   no one is talking about anything   that will help the American people. No one.   Okay?   And Well No no one important. That's right. No one. Yeah. Okay. It's talking about how they're gonna help us, American people. So I mean, one of one of the things, I mean, that they're that's being being told and promised is, well, they're not necessarily promised,   but, I mean, they're addressing the the whole immigration problem. That was one of the big things that Okay. Okay. Okay. Hang on. Hang on. Let's take that. How?  



[02:44:42] Bryan Goodwin:

How? Well How. How is   we know how Trump   talks about doing it. Now has he actually gonna do this? What has been laid out as a plan  

[02:44:54] Rich Chelson:

to achieve   this goal?  

[02:44:57] Bryan Goodwin:

The well, what's   now an actual step by step plan? No. He hasn't done no one has laid any of that out if that's what you're asking. Okay. What well, I mean I mean, you know But I mean, when it comes to what like, what was Trump is was wanting done is first   going to stop   all the stop the the free flow of,   immigrants. How is he gonna do that? More likely, he's going to have the have the border patrol say no. You're,   you catch anybody, you turn them around, you send them back to the other side. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Okay.  

[02:45:30] Rich Chelson:

But with that,   why wouldn't he make that whole statement   instead of because,   you know,   you had said that, you know, he would shut down   the free flow of, of, of immigrants. Okay. Fine.   Now   he stopped right there and didn't say anymore. Is that correct?   I would have to rewatch it to tell you the fact. Oh, well, don't I mean, but but you see, that's the thing. You know?   Politicians   back in the in just  

[02:46:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, politicians   from from from the very first   have all, you know, made promises.   Yes. But if there's anybody that's kept that, made a promise and has kept more of the promises that they've made, I mean, we're again, we're we're looking at Trump. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.  

[02:46:21] Rich Chelson:

You're trying to mix 2 things here. Okay. You Hold on, man. You are right. Okay. You are 100% right.   But still,   politicians   say I have a plan   to   stop immigration or, or, or to   stop the free flow of,   immigrants.   Right. You know?   Okay.   And a lot of them, that's where they stop. They don't explain   the first steps. Like, okay.   Like you said.   Right. You know, I think he would probably do this.   Well, that's your thoughts.   What did Donald Trump actually say? He didn't.  

[02:47:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Same same He didn't get didn't get the time to. Right? Because he'd go off track.  

[02:47:06] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. You see that you see you see this is the thing, and it it's the same thing with freaking Kamala Harris. Oh, I know. Right? You know, it's like, yes. You've got the time.   Stop harping on the fucking past.   So what they said you fucking lied? Guess what? Deal with it.   You know?   You're sitting here trying to defend   yourself   because these people are lying about you and you're trying to defend this,   that's not breeding confidence for me as an American citizen.   You know? Because it it just it just it just makes me makes me believe,   you know, you know, if you're gonna sit here and and whine about   these lies being told about you, what the fuck are you gonna do for me?  

You just gonna sit in the Oval Office and eat fucking McDonald's and whine about how people lie to you?   Or are you actually gonna do something?   Right. And, again, same thing same thing with Kamala Harris.   Yeah. Oh, I get it. That that just goes both sides of the aisle right there. But you see, this this is what irks me about the debate   because   no one said fucking anything.   Nothing.   You know, they didn't say I've got a 3 step plan. You know what? Tell me a 3 step plan.   Whether, whether it happens or not,   whether it's a true or a fucking lie, tell me a 3 step plan, bitch. Right. I'd be happy with that. You know?  

Because actually   there would be something I could grab a hold on   and analyze and and ruminate on and think about. Right.   It's it's simple, man. We used to do it.   Yep. We used to do it. But but most people   can't comprehend even the simplest of statements.  

[02:49:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that can be difficult to comprehend sometimes. So   but anyhow, so guys wanna say thank y'all very much. We have actually been yabbering. We've hit crossed the 3 hour mark. This is one of our longer of long shows.   So   so anyhow, wanna say thank you very much for, for taking the time to listen. If you would like to be able to help us keep the show going, we do run on a value for value plan. This is when you help us by donating to us in any way possible.   And we do it in multiple different ways. You can either do it by time, talent, or treasure   because   a lot of people think you can make money off of advertising. And I'm sorry, but advertising, you're making   around   maybe 20¢ per 1,000 listeners.  

And the majority of podcasters   do not have   5,000 listeners,   which is kind of the breaking point where you start getting advertisers to come in and go, hey. Alright. I like that. Not to mention, when you do advertisers,   you are actually censoring yourself. You're actually voluntarily going, I will not speak about things that you do not like. Because there's things like GARM, which is the,   which is the the agreement between advertisers to have brand safe. It's, the general,   regulatory   of advertising,   GARM. I can't remember what it all stood for. But, yeah, we can get off on that subject if you Oh, yeah. We get off on that advertising. So that's that's quite a bit. But, anyway, that's fine. Be another 3 hours. Yeah.   But it's but   we   when you go for   advertising,   it yeah. You get a quick buck, but you're also getting paid by the devil. It's a deal with the devil itself.  

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And it is a   it's a great little   means of   I have however much   quality and value I provided for you, you get to make the choice. How much do you think what we did to this,   for this 3 hours, how much do you think that's worth?   You get to choose.   Doesn't mean you're wrong. Doesn't mean that we're right. Doesn't mean we're wrong. It's just however much you choose. It is up to say way for you saying thanks for, coming here every week and coming to talk to us and letting us know and making us giggle, making us think, making us ponder whatever it is we wanted to ponder.   You know?  

And so we that's one of the great things about the value for value. But we not aren't just talking money because maybe you only have $5 left to your name. I don't wanna take the last $5, man. That's you being able to get at least get a Taco Bell,   taco.   1 at $5. Yeah. Right.   1. You ain't getting much more than 1. You ain't getting much more than that. But but at the same time so if you wanted to be able to help us, you could also could preview your time or your talent and be able to help us. You could always shoot an email over to me.   My email is, [email protected],   or you can shoot rich at the email over at rchelson,   [email protected].  

And you can say, hey, how can I help you?   Because I wanna pay you I wanna   contribute to y'all. And we easily say, hey, Would love for you to be a, come up with, with show names,   for us because we we we struggle with coming up with show names sometime. Mhmm. And, you know and so you that might be what you do. You start sending over. Here's   this is a good a good word. This is a good this is a good show title. This is a good show title. Here's how about this? How about this? And you'd be you could come up with an idea that way. Or if you're good at, graphic design, maybe you'd come up with the, with the the,   chapter art for each episode, or maybe you come up with the, with the, the cover art for the episode. Right. And so there's so many different things that you could do to help us out, and we would be appreciative of any of the help that you get, because, I mean, it's us too. And we bring dude along just so that he has something to be able to,   to be a part of, because   we, we do this because of our, of our love for, for dude.  

And he's he's got he's got some a lot of stuff that's, that's   that's   working and I'm not gonna dive into it because one dude's not here. He fell his his phone hit the, hit the time limit and they were like, oh, yeah. We're done with the Internet tonight. And so that's why he dipped out.   So but   but we   did this as a means, want for us to be able to talk.   Me and Rich been talking with each other for for years now. That would brought,   brought Ron in so that he can he can join us   and and be a part of this type of group because he   needs more   he needs more friends to see a different way of looking at life.  

And you are the average of the 5 people you spend the most intentional time with. And so thankfully he we get to spend our time with dude. And so he makes us a little bit crankier and a little bit grumpier, which makes us way more fun. That's why we were the 2 grumpy vets.   So   so we love we love Ron tremendously in there and every and he does when he gets out in his boot and he is actually   wanting to contribute,   that man will drop some knowledge bombs that would just blow your hair back.   So so that's why we have like to have him   have him come on. He may not say much at times, but when he does say something, better write it down because it's gonna be gospel.  

So   but but, guys, if you wanna help me, I would love for you to help be able to to tribute in any way possible, and, and we would love to have you, have you do so. So, Rich, what do you got to say?  

[02:56:06] Rich Chelson:

Just   just wanna say thank you for listening, to be honest with you.   You know, just, I mean, we see the downloads every week   or every day, actually. But, yeah, every week we check those. And I mean, honestly, with as long as we've been going, which is about 6 months now,   we're actually   got quite a few people listening, which is kinda surprising. So   I I'm just I'm I'm I'm just glad we're able to   sit back, have fun, record this, and,   you know, you know, if we made you laugh, cry, groan,   throw something and hate us or whatnot, yeah, send us an email.   [email protected]@gmail.com,   and,   we'll be happy to answer whatever. You know?  

Absolutely.   We'll read the email on the air even and, answer it right here on the air. You know? We will include you.   That's the thing. We will include you. This is you know? But, yeah, like Brian said, you know, Brian and I have been talking for years,   and we just thought   y'all would like to hear what   what a couple old angry vets,   grumpy vets talk about. Well, guess what? Here it is. Here it is. But,   you know, again, thank you for listening. Keep listening. Share it out. Tell your friends. Tell your family. Tell your loved ones.   And,   you know, till next time.  



[02:57:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Till next time, guys. Y'all take care. We'll see y'all next week. So till then,   bye.  

[02:57:44] Rich Chelson:

Later.  

[02:57:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Catch you later, Rich. See you. Alright, Brent. See you.