Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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The Duuude kicks things off by talking coins—specifically, the end of silver in quarters and the slow demise of the penny, which leads the guys down a rabbit hole of gas prices, taxes, and how rounding up or down might change... well, probably nothing.
This somehow pivots to New York City's new "communist" mayor, free housing, and the logistics of delivering anything in a city that charges a fortune just to cross a bridge.
But the real tech news? Rich got mad as hell at Windows and... (drumroll)... he switched to Linux! He shares his journey of telling Windows 11 to "hold my beer," turning off BitLocker, and discovering the clean, crisp world of Linux Mint Cinnamon. The guys dive into whether you can really game on Linux, the power of root access, and breathing new life into old computers.
Bryan jumps in from his truck to explain the loud, 15-hour-day-filled world of "zipper" fracking, and the guys get a new subscriber (Hi, Deanna!).
The conversation then careens into a UPS plane crash, "rapid unscheduled disassemblies," a slammed Mustang throwing sparks, low rider regrets, and the existential dread of getting older, needing hearing aids, and trying to sleep with a fan on (or not).
Finally, the guys tackle the "Eliza effect" of people marrying AI, the fracturing of pop culture thanks to Napster and Netflix, and why we might all just need a good dose of boredom.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary of   humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living,   having weekly conversations   is a good way   to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude.  

[00:00:35] Rich Chelson:

Duuude.   What's up?  

[00:00:38] Duuude-Ron :

What's up with you?  

[00:00:42] Unknown:

Not a whole hell of a lot. You know? Just driving, driving, and or driving.  

[00:00:47] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Brian says he's   talking with Janet trying to get off the phone now.  

[00:00:54] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:00:55] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[00:00:57] Unknown:

So then we get to punk him because he's last.  

[00:01:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. We do.  

[00:01:02] Unknown:

And he's the podcast host, so he should be the first. So he handed it over to you.  

[00:01:08] Duuude-Ron :

And No. No. I'm I'm I'm act well, actually, we're all cohost, but I'm I'm normally the one on first because   I've got everything tied up. And Brian jumps in second because, well, that's Brian.   And you, like, you know, always show up. In fact,   you were kinda early,   which is cool.  

[00:01:31] Unknown:

I'm usually a day late and a dollar short, so that's my life.  

[00:01:36] Duuude-Ron :

So you must have an extra 50¢.  

[00:01:39] Unknown:

No. I probably owe that to somebody as well.  

[00:01:44] Duuude-Ron :

We just won't tell them about it.  

[00:01:47] Unknown:

Yeah.   Oh, talking about, 50¢, quarters.   Did you know that they are fixing to   no longer   have silver in quarters?   It's going to zinc.  

[00:02:00] Duuude-Ron :

They haven't had silver in quarters for years.   I I didn't think.  

[00:02:05] Unknown:

Well, you know,   I don't know, but   keep those old quarters.  

[00:02:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Did they say   what years were still silver?  

[00:02:15] Unknown:

No. A friend of mine had had mentioned that to me. I'm like, yeah.   Yeah. And we also talked about that they're getting rid of pennies, which they,   well, they haven't had pennies over in Europe as far as,   you know, the exchange and anything else since, hell, I was over there in 2001,   and they didn't have pennies over there because it costs too much to fucking ship them.  

[00:02:40] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow. Yeah. No. I did read something here not too long ago about pennies.   They're   they are getting to the point where they're not gonna make them anymore.  

[00:02:52] Unknown:

That is correct. They're not they're not gonna make them yep.   I don't know if they have already stopped   the production run or if there's a certain date   that they plan on it.   But, yeah, now everything is gonna be   2¢   1 and 2¢ will be   no. One, two, and three will be rolled down.   Fuck. I don't know.   No. One and one and two is gonna be rolled down, and three and four is gonna be rolled up to the nickel.   Wow.   Which,   you know, okay.   Whatever.   Yeah.  

[00:03:30] Duuude-Ron :

True. True.   But think about this, though.   You know you know, what about gas prices at, like,   $2.39.9,   you know, 0.99?   You you see? The reason why they do that, and this is I learned this a long time ago, and I might be correct. I might not be, but   it was all for taxes  

[00:03:53] Unknown:

because That that   point nine   has always been   for taxes.   Yes.  

[00:04:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But it it's like if they round it down or round it up, I mean, what's what's that gonna do to the tax structure? Will they have to change that as well?  

[00:04:12] Unknown:

Man, that's about 36 levels above my education factor.   And you know what? I am not gonna have I can talk all day long, and it ain't gonna make a damn bit of difference what I say   because they're gonna do what the fuck they wanna do anyway.  

[00:04:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, this is true.   This is true.  

[00:04:33] Unknown:

You know, when I saw a thing come across my Facebook that said   New York City has died.   Rest in peace.  

[00:04:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   That Yeah.   New York City, I just caught a few things about it.   They just   they just selected a communist   as a   mayor, an outspoken   straight up, he says I'm communist.   Yeah. Yeah. He's not hiding the fact.  

[00:05:04] Unknown:

Oh, no.   And he fucking won by over 20%.  

[00:05:08] Rich Chelson:

Wow. Of the of the vote.  

[00:05:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See, I didn't hear that. I just I just heard he had won,   and I guess I guess I guess Trump   had said something to him. And in fact, yeah, it was a it was a sound bite that Trump said.   Trump was backing Andrew Cuomo, a known Democrat.   He's like, I would rather   back a   a   a bad Democrat   than this guy who's a communist.   You know? And Trump backed a Democrat, and, you know, that guy still lost. So   he Well, the New York needs to,   figure out what the hell is going on.  

[00:05:48] Unknown:

They did it's you know what?   It's already a fucking   it's the big apple, actually. It's an apple core that's fucking got so much damn   brown on it and fucking mold.  

[00:06:02] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[00:06:03] Unknown:

And but to have a socialist and now he wants to have   free housing, free groceries.   Nothing   nothing   is fucking free.  

[00:06:16] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.  

[00:06:18] Unknown:

Nothing   is free.   Somebody   will be paying for it.  

[00:06:24] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:06:25] Unknown:

Did you know that if you work in New York City,   you pay   on your income, you pay   federal tax,   state tax,   I believe county tax,   and city tax.  

[00:06:42] Duuude-Ron :

I did not know that.  

[00:06:44] Unknown:

Yes. Those four are   if you work in New York City, you pay those four taxes out of your paycheck every time you get paid.  

[00:06:52] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.  

[00:06:54] Unknown:

And you have to now   pay for and it this this has always been a toll for the tunnels and bridge, but now you it's higher,   and now you get you pay for the privilege of driving in New York City.  

[00:07:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Well, last I knew,   a big truck was paying a $120   just across the Georgia Washington Bridge.  

[00:07:16] Unknown:

For one day?  

[00:07:18] Duuude-Ron :

No. That's one time.   If you go in, come out, and go back in, guess what? You pay it again.  

[00:07:25] Unknown:

Yeah.   And now they have an actual fee   for large trucks, period,   in the city.  

[00:07:33] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I believe So  

[00:07:35] Unknown:

how the fuck do they expect anything to get delivered?  

[00:07:39] Duuude-Ron :

Because people are gonna pay it. Yeah. Well  

[00:07:43] Unknown:

yeah. You're right.  

[00:07:44] Duuude-Ron :

They're gonna be like, well, we gotta pay it. And   the people of New York City,   their all their prices are fixing to double, if not triple,   and   you ain't gonna be able to live there.   Yep. You're right. Because I mean, I mean, it's not like anybody it's not like anybody could live there now. It'll just be even worse.  

[00:08:08] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. There's there was one   thing I saw up on my,   Facebook, and it was a video.   It was a a basement   studio apartment   for and, I mean, we're talking about   the size of my living room,   kitchen,   and the master bedroom   and bath   for $2,200   a month   in the basement.  

[00:08:38] Duuude-Ron :

That's crazy.  

[00:08:40] Unknown:

Yeah.   And now this   fuck nuts wants to give free food and free housing  

[00:08:47] Unknown:

Yeah. To who?  

[00:08:48] Unknown:

To who? All the illegals?   Yeah. To all the illegals.  

[00:08:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'm I'm not sure. I mean, like like I said, I I caught a few things of it, and I glanced over it. And I was like, yeah. That's not gonna work. And I'm like, I hope he don't win. And then I saw that he won, and I'm like, well, you know what? I'm I'm just gonna sit back and   watch the shit show because it's fixing to happen.  

[00:09:14] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Fixing to happen really bad.  

[00:09:18] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   And mister Brian just jumped in. I am fine, man.  

[00:09:23] Unknown:

Oh, the hell with mister Brian. We're having a conversation. Okay. Well, y'all can burst away.  

[00:09:30] Duuude-Ron :

Now we're just talking about New York, dude, and their and their new communist mayor.  

[00:09:36] Unknown:

Oh, I must have offended him.   I must have offended him real bad. Bluetooth devices.  

[00:09:45] Rich Chelson:

You do what? Said no. No. We'll just have him battling Bluetooth devices.  

[00:09:50] Unknown:

Oh, that's why I don't Bluetooth.   So now we would I already no problems putting in wired headphones into my phone   because I still have the plug for it. Without making that plug anymore on the newer phones.  

[00:10:08] Rich Chelson:

No. No. They make they make,   you do they do make wired headphones that have the   USB C connection, though.  

[00:10:16] Duuude-Ron :

Oh.   I did not know that. Yeah.   I wouldn't mind doing it. Well well, I'm fixing to get hearing aids anyway, so it don't matter. Oh, there you go.  

[00:10:29] Unknown:

What? Yeah.  

[00:10:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Count him?  

[00:10:32] Unknown:

Exactly.   We're gonna start fucking with you now.  

[00:10:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Next month on the seventeenth.   I I went I went for my hearing test,   and I liked that. And   they said on the low end, my hearing got a little better, but, yeah, my high end state was was   like it was last year.   And,   so, yeah, the dude was like, yeah, dude.   You need to get some hearing aid.  

[00:11:01] Unknown:

I am never gonna get hearing aids. You know why? Why?   Because I really don't wanna listen to most people fucking talk.  

[00:11:10] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I understand. I understand. But, you know, what if we're still podcasting when that happens?  

[00:11:17] Rich Chelson:

It'll just be about he'll he'll we'll be talking about something happening on Monday, and he's, like, going, well, maybe that's gonna happen someday. I I'm  

[00:11:26] Unknown:

I'll put it on quote. I'll put it on closed caption.   I'm sure I got a closed caption button someplace on this phone.  

[00:11:33] Rich Chelson:

You got closed caption on the on on Zoom. Yeah. Yeah. You got a live cloud closed captioning.   That's all I fucking need.  

[00:11:41] Duuude-Ron :

I didn't even know that. Oh, good.  

[00:11:44] Unknown:

And, of course, my reading speed, I'd miss up half the I'd miss on half the conversation anyway, but that's okay.  

[00:11:51] Duuude-Ron :

That's you normally, dude.  

[00:11:53] Unknown:

I know.   But   oh, and, hey.   Brian, we also found out why Rich is always the first one on the podcast.  

[00:12:04] Rich Chelson:

Because because he starts it open, like, 05:00.  

[00:12:07] Unknown:

Right. And then he has all the time in the fucking world to push buttons.  

[00:12:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Go push the buttons.  

[00:12:13] Duuude-Ron :

Before before we get on. No. No. Hold on. Hold on here. Because, I went and I went and got pissed  

[00:12:21] Rich Chelson:

this past week. Oh, got drunk. Get away. Woo hoo.   Ow. No. I didn't get drunk. But Oh, wrong time. Pissed.  

[00:12:29] Duuude-Ron :

Actually, it was it was late last week. I got I got mad. I got madder than a motherfucker.  

[00:12:36] Unknown:

Who pissed you off?  

[00:12:37] Duuude-Ron :

My computer.   Windows.  

[00:12:41] Rich Chelson:

Alrighty then. But you switched it and went to, went to   to Linux.  

[00:12:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yes, sir. I did.   I went to Linux Mint.   And check this out.   It was easier   to get   Zoom,   but   and Pod Home   up and running.   We're live right now.   I mean, I it's it it was it was a matter   of getting the programs,   setting it up,   and,   well, I used YouTube as a   as something in in the Zoom client,   you know,   you know, so I could see to make sure that that worked.   And   yeah. And got everything working and, I mean, shit, That there was the first day.   But, yeah, the reason why I got upset is   I was just wanting to look at it just to see if I could get my drivers and everything.   Well, Windows 11   and for ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of the people,   this is not gonna affect them at all. Right.  

Okay? But I'm that point 001%.   And I just wanted to look at this operating system. Well, Windows 11 is like, oh, no. You can't.   We're not gonna let you.   And so I'm like, excuse me.   Then so I had to use AI to help me out   because   I had to turn off BitLocker   Yep. In in Windows.   Yeah. And then I had to go out to the BIOS   of the computer and turn off two other things, and you have to do it in a certain   configuration. Because if you don't, it won't work. Then you have to go turn everything back on, and then it start the process all over again.   Right. And I had to do that a couple times.  

And so   because because the main thing I was I was wanting to check was my video card, you know, a few other things. Right?   Yeah. And so I finally got to look at it on the USB stick,   and   immediately, it it freaking connected to my printer, Linux,   on the USB stick connected to my printer.   It it offered   to download   the proprietary   driver for my video card.   I'm like, okay. So I looked around a little bit. I'm like, you know what? Screw this shit. Install.   So I installed it.   And,   honestly,   I haven't looked back since, man.  

[00:15:17] Rich Chelson:

Right.   You know? But but I don't want to get what you use it for. It's that's kinda how it works.   And so, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, you know, I can't because I'm I'm, I do games on it. I was like, okay. Well, I get that. If you're not if you're playing games, then you probably have to you have to use,   you know, Steam and or something like that.  

[00:15:38] Duuude-Ron :

But now I'm ready. Hold it. Hold it. Linux, man,   has got to where you can have Steam.  

[00:15:46] Rich Chelson:

It's it's it's kinda They've they've worked, they've jiggered a   a system around where they're able to utilize actual   windows  

[00:15:56] Duuude-Ron :

No. Drivers and stuff. No. They've they've wrote the source code.   No. This is not jiggered shit. This is   because I I was doing some reading on all this.   No. Linux   Linux Mint   is is is a clean interface, and it's they've they've gone through   and catered to gamers, catered to people coming from Windows,   and and   basically made it to where you don't have to use a terminal at all.   You can one click install shit,   Right. Including Zoom, including Steam.   And you can still play your games. You can still   log in to all these apps and these programs that you had,   and they run natively.  

It's not jiggered. It's not using wine. It's not using wine tricks.   They've done a lot of work on Linux.   It's it's nothing like it used to be, dude. Nothing.   You need to look at it.  

[00:16:57] Rich Chelson:

You know, I've got plenty that I could. So  

[00:17:00] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Because   believe me, you can,   well,   you're running Mac, aren't you?  

[00:17:07] Rich Chelson:

Well, I run Mac, but I've got a couple of old. And and when I say old, I mean, old   Windows   units. I think I've got one that's a Windows maybe Windows 10, but I think it's Windows eight.  

[00:17:19] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Yeah. No. No. They've they've totally gone through and and   revamped   linix mint cinnamon, dude.   I'm telling you. Look at it. Cinnamon mint. Mhmm. Yeah.  

[00:17:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Sounds absolutely disgusting.   Well, no. It's mint cinnamon, not cinnamon. Know. Mint flavored cinnamon. So it's like even  

[00:17:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That'd be gross. But Yeah. But, no. Seriously, it's it's it's because that was that was something I was looking at on my video card, you know, since I've got a high end video card in the in this laptop.   Right. And that's why I was worried about the drivers, and that's where that's where I scrolled off into,   the gaming sector   and everything because   my video card is, like, on the bottom end of the gaming cards.   So  

[00:18:13] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:18:15] Duuude-Ron :

So I,   that's and, yeah, it it   no. They've they've got support   for some pretty high end video cards, and   you can get Steam through the software manager.   In fact,   let me look it up.   I believe you can because I've   because some of the documentation   I read   yeah.   I can download the Steam engine.   It's it's from Valve.   So it is it is actual  

[00:18:45] Rich Chelson:

from from Steam. I knew Valve was trying to get some stuff going because Valve is because the,   what is it, Steam Deck   is   is the Linux  

[00:19:00] Unknown:

Yeah.   I believe.   So   Well, they they got it  

[00:19:07] Rich Chelson:

set up Hammered down. Yeah.  

[00:19:09] Duuude-Ron :

Now this that's that's why I say this is and this is polished. In fact, it's funny when I close windows out, I've I've got I've got a thing called burn my windows.   So   when I click x,   it looks like my windows burn off the screen. It's cool as shit.   To poo.   Yeah. But no. I've been I've been I've been playing with it,   you know, using AI to help me with the coding stuff, you know, just just making little tweaks, just learning a little shit here and there. Right.   Yeah. It runs a whole lot faster.   I'm a lot more secure on it. I'll tell you that.   Yeah.  

So   so yeah. I, yeah, I just got, yeah, I just got mad   because Windows tried to tell me, you can't do that.   Yeah. Watch me, bitch.   Hold my beer.   And   and, also, when you get updates,   99   of the time,   you don't have to reboot after every freaking update. You just update.   I love that.   So   so, yeah, I did that. And then my other computer,   I said screw Zorn   and put mint on it too. Okay.   Yeah. I mean, Zorn I'm not knocking Zorn. Zorn's a good operating system   and everything like that. But Zorn   looked fuzzy,   kinda like what what linix meant looked like five years ago.   Okay? Linix meant now looks crisp, clean.  

I mean, it it   it's it's cleaned up a lot.   So   look at it. Check it out.  

[00:20:53] Rich Chelson:

Will do. Because  

[00:20:55] Duuude-Ron :

you'll find that   you don't have to do as much as you used to do.   So, yeah, I got I got wound up and   said, screw this.  

[00:21:07] Rich Chelson:

Got ambitious.  

[00:21:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. I did. I got highly ambitious.  

[00:21:13] Unknown:

So Well  

[00:21:15] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Oh, sounds cool. Yep.  

[00:21:18] Unknown:

So I have a question   The on Linux.   The computer that I brought down,   could you even install that   on that computer?  

[00:21:29] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.   I plan to.  

[00:21:33] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:21:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yes, sir. I can breathe new life into   that ancient computer you you brought down.  

[00:21:42] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:21:43] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:21:44] Unknown:

Might have to buy it back. Show.   Might have to buy it back from you.  

[00:21:49] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, just drive down here. I'll give it to you.  

[00:21:52] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:21:53] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, seriously.   I mean, I ain't gonna sell it to you because the freaking operating system's free. I mean, basically, I just   I just I just put a new operating system on it, and you can surf the web and email and all like that.  

[00:22:09] Unknown:

Just as if I bought a computer right from the store yesterday,  

[00:22:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Now it might not run   as fast   as mine. Yeah.  

[00:22:19] Rich Chelson:

But Oh, yeah.  

[00:22:21] Duuude-Ron :

But yes.   Yes. Just like just like if you bought the computer off   from Best Buy.  

[00:22:28] Unknown:

Wow.  

[00:22:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. Linux, yeah, Linux doesn't use hardly any system resources.   It it it doesn't need much to run it.   Wow.   But Linux Linux always had a a steep learning curve   until now.   So   they're finally realizing   with the people that have Windows 10 computers   that that had that had don't wanna buy a computer and upgrade,   they're trying to get   more and more of them to switch over to Linux. So they've made Linux   look and feel more like Windows.  

[00:23:06] Unknown:

Oh, that's cool.   Yeah. Maybe   get some of the   make it a little bit more fair on the the end user where they're not hapting to, you know, do   Chrome or do Windows or whatever.  

[00:23:24] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right. Because in fact, on on, this computer, I've got   Firefox,   and I've got the Brave web   web browser.   So I don't I don't even have Chrome   or   Microsoft   Edge or   anything like that.   I just have those two browsers.   Oh, okay.  

[00:23:48] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[00:23:49] Unknown:

But about   88.2%   of everything that you guys were just talking went went meow.   And split the split the Mohawk.  

[00:24:01] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Split the mohawk? Okay. Well, good. I'm glad it didn't lay to one side or the other. That that would not be a good look on you, dude.  

[00:24:13] Unknown:

I'll wait wait till wait till my chin hair gets long enough to where I start braiding it.  

[00:24:20] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no.   That's too much.  

[00:24:23] Rich Chelson:

I don't know.  

[00:24:25] Unknown:

Maybe get the pie maybe get the pirate look. Yeah.  

[00:24:29] Duuude-Ron :

What? Like Pirates of the Caribbean?  

[00:24:32] Unknown:

Something like that. Yeah.   You know, put   put a couple trinkets in there.  

[00:24:41] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. You do that, I'm definitely getting some pictures.  

[00:24:46] Unknown:

I'm sure you would.   Hell, I'd even send them to you.  

[00:24:51] Duuude-Ron :

I don't doubt that, dude.  

[00:24:55] Unknown:

Post them on Facebook for everybody to see.  

[00:24:59] Duuude-Ron :

So, Brian, you and Homer?  

[00:25:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. For No. I'm I'm in the truck, and   sadly, you're,   I am not sure exactly how long, but   we're fixing to go and   do another   fucking   zipper.   Actually, we're fixing to do two zippers.   So  

[00:25:21] Duuude-Ron :

explain again what a zipper is. I forgot.  

[00:25:24] Unknown:

Oh, the, used on parachute something used on parachute pants?  

[00:25:28] Rich Chelson:

Parachute pants. Yeah. He had plenty of zippers.   But what it is is they have multiple wells on a pad.   And so what they do is   they'll   go through the frac one,   and instead of going which what normally happens on a frac job is they frac frac a stage,   they send wire lie down to perforate the next the next stage to put holes in the casing and into the into the rock so that they could break it apart to area,   to   to get more surface area so the natural gas flows into the well faster.  

[00:26:03] Duuude-Ron :

K.  

[00:26:05] Rich Chelson:

And so usually,   it is   you're you run, you stop   for an hour, hour and a half as they go down the well, perforate,   go back up,   and get off the well,   close-up the well, then they start fracking again. So there's like a a   you   you frack stop for a while, frack stop for a while, frack stop for a while. With a zipper, what they do is they   you go   you pump a well,   and then you go to the next well and you pump a well while they're   while they're the wireline and the the first well.   And so with wireline pull by the time wireline pulls out, you're finished fracing that stage, and so you go back to the first well   and   they fracked and they wanna allow on the second one. So you're it's a lot faster. You're go you're going twice as fast as you would with a, with a normal well.  

And so they're having all of us all of us, Sam drivers   are gonna be shuttlers again,   which means I'm instead of driving for,   you know,   hour and a half or hour, hour and a half to the sand plan, I'm gonna be about fifteen minutes   at the longest,   possibly even shorter than that going from the staging pad   or going from the the frack location   to the to the staging pad, grabbing a loaded trailer, and bringing it back   and going back and forth that way.  

[00:27:32] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:27:32] Rich Chelson:

So   good news is   fifteen hour days. Bad news is   fifteen hour days, and it's really fucking loud on location.  

[00:27:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, lovely.  

[00:27:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And, I mean, my   it took about   about four days afterwards for because the earplugs I was using is just those foam earplugs,   and it took   it took a good four days afterwards   for my ears to stop hurting   because the,   because the plugs were pushing against my ears so much. The and it's not the eardrum. It was the ear canal itself. It was like it was, you know, the skin had been put pinched against, you know, pushing   pinching the skin against a bone for, like, you know, twelve hours at a time.   Right. Right.  

[00:28:24] Duuude-Ron :

So so, yeah, it was the fit of  

[00:28:28] Rich Chelson:

the of the It's just those yeah. It's and it being just the,   just the foamy ones, I you know, they were they were pushing too much. I guess they got little ear holes.   So  

[00:28:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You might want to look at maybe getting some   better fitting earplugs.   Yeah. Earring protect. You know? Here.  

[00:28:51] Rich Chelson:

I like to just get some earbuds, personally.  

[00:28:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you can do that too.  

[00:28:57] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. It's it's gonna be a busy night. I've only got six hours and thirty three minutes left in my   on the clock, so   pre trip inspection   saved.   So  

[00:29:10] Duuude-Ron :

I will say I do know of personally, I do know of I mean, we all know him.   We have a new subscriber.  

[00:29:18] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:29:19] Duuude-Ron :

That's Dina.  

[00:29:20] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Yeah. Dina's listening now.  

[00:29:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. She's yeah. She,   it was funny. Last night, she had sent me a text, said, hey. What you doing tomorrow?   I said, podcasting.   Or well well, Dina asked what what me and Bella were doing tomorrow. I said, I'm podcasting.   I said, you can have Bella. She'd love it. You know?   And then so   because Jim and Dina's got some friends in town, and   they have puppies. And they was just gonna let the puppies play, and I was gonna meet   these people and whatnot. So   and today, well, I guess I guess   their friends decided not to come over. I guess he was sick or something or not feeling good. And so and so Dana asked me to come over, so I took Bella over there.  

[00:30:11] Rich Chelson:

Okay. And  

[00:30:13] Duuude-Ron :

we was talking about the podcast   and everything like that. And,   well, Dina had, you know, you know, found us on YouTube, but,   I mean, it's not updated.  

[00:30:25] Rich Chelson:

No. We haven't updated in a long while.  

[00:30:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So so I'm like, no. I said she's like, I found you on YouTube. I said no.   No. Because I saw it, and I'm like, yeah. No.   And   so she has an iPhone.   And I saw her podcast,   even though it's Apple Podcasts,   I it's still a subscriber. Okay? Oh, no.  

[00:30:47] Rich Chelson:

Subscriber, subscriber, subscriber.  

[00:30:49] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right. And so   so she's like, here, you do it. So so I brought it up and   typed in our podcast,   and and she's like,   how many of these do you have? I said, like, 75.   She's like, oh my gosh. She's like, well Yep. Three hours a piece.   New hug. You see, that's the thing. She didn't know that at first, and and she said, well, I'll get caught up. I said, honey, they're three hours, like, each.   She's like, what? I'm like, yeah.  

[00:31:20] Rich Chelson:

She's like, oh my gosh. Yeah. We You know? Yeah.   Lots of chatter and monkeys, I tell you.  

[00:31:27] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   So so, yeah, she'll be   I mean I mean I mean, she's not listening right now, but but she'll start listening to them. And   and then,   of course,   she'll probably be asking me every week,   have you dropped another one yet?   Every Monday.   So   but yeah. No.   So yeah.   We do have another subscriber.  

[00:31:55] Rich Chelson:

Good day.  

[00:31:57] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right?   So   hey. I do what I can where I can, man. Absolutely. I do the same thing.  

[00:32:06] Unknown:

But  

[00:32:07] Rich Chelson:

yeah. They're gonna get it. We'll get to a million in one day.   Yes. We will. One person at a time.  

[00:32:14] Duuude-Ron :

That's all it takes.   One person tells another person tells another person and then boom.  

[00:32:20] Rich Chelson:

You know? That's a that's the bank the best value for value you could do. You find value in what we're we're doing, then   share it out. Even if you, you know,   even if the person that you share it to is the person you hate the most, that's still value.  

[00:32:33] Duuude-Ron :

That was fancy coffee. It is to us.   Yeah. Because we don't care if you hate them or not.  

[00:32:42] Unknown:

Oh, lord. You just said nasty coffee. What? Truckstop coffee?  

[00:32:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. It was Or did you say terrible. No. No. I've   I've I got,   got caught up in some phone calls, and so by the time I was getting ready to take off to the head over here to the truck and stuff, I'd like, oh, son of a bitch. I didn't set my didn't turn my coffee on. It's   it's like, well, I'll just run by and grab some coffee and well, yeah. That's some that's some horrible, horrible coffee.   Yeah. I'm gonna have to   that that's a that's a thermos wall of of coffee that's a waste. So  

[00:33:18] Unknown:

Yeah. Just sit on it. Just put a few condiments in it. You know? Like  

[00:33:23] Rich Chelson:

A little a little soy sauce, some ketchup, touch of mustard,   salt and pepper.  

[00:33:29] Unknown:

Well, I was thinking sugar and cream, but, you know, you all  

[00:33:32] Rich Chelson:

You do you, boo.   If it Well, I hear condiments, and I that's what I think of. It was like   mustard and mayonnaise and some,   little relish in there.   Couple squirts of, of chili.  

[00:33:48] Duuude-Ron :

And dude's thinking drugs, man. Yeah.  

[00:33:53] Unknown:

You know,   Brian's gotta be on something.  

[00:33:57] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:33:59] Unknown:

We ain't figured it out yet. No. No.  

[00:34:02] Rich Chelson:

On fucking something.   Yeah. Well, you know, that's   can't tell anybody or they're that lot.  

[00:34:09] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right. Yeah. You have to keep it hush-hush, man.   But Oh, hang on, man.   You you can tell us. We ain't gonna tell no one. That's  

[00:34:20] Rich Chelson:

that's right. We won't have a person. Just the just 13 listeners that we have.  

[00:34:24] Unknown:

Well, hey. You know? You know what? They'll spread it around, and we'll get more followers and so on and so on and so on. You could talk advice, Ben.   Yeah.   You know, that's kinda like with me and grits.   Same way with coffee. Gotta have a lot of sugar. Yeah.  

[00:34:43] Rich Chelson:

Grits, yeah, I understand that. Yeah. Grits, you wanna put a lot of lot of, well, I put honey in mine, but  

[00:34:50] Duuude-Ron :

No. Same thing.   I mean, kind of. I mean, yeah, I put I put butter and sugar or honey or whatever. Just yeah. I gotta have sweet grits. I can eat them with salt and pepper, but   I prefer them sweet.  

[00:35:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Yuck.  

[00:35:04] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. So what do y'all think of that UPS plane that fell out of this guy?  

[00:35:09] Duuude-Ron :

I ain't hear nothing about that.  

[00:35:12] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.   I'll be   something. He's got the 3,500   the whole room and it barely got off the ground. The engine fell off, and it creamed   creamed across, across   a a mile or so of,   of,   of of industrial park.  

[00:35:31] Unknown:

Yeah. There's there's videos of it, Rich,   out on the Yeah.   Out on the seeing pictures.  

[00:35:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Let me see if I can find the videos. You There was a video got a lot of videos.  

[00:35:42] Unknown:

There was one video that   there was a guy sitting in his truck, and it went right past trip there right in front of him.  

[00:35:50] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[00:35:50] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I love how this is put. The crash was preceded by the separation   of the plane's   left engine   during takeoff,   which caught fire and detached.   I love that wording. That's just funny. Leading to the aircraft bursting into flames and crashing into an industrial area south of the airport.  

[00:36:13] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I am sad to hear that people passed. Yeah. They, like, lost, like, 11 people, 11 lives. The three crew members and the rest were on the ground.  

[00:36:23] Duuude-Ron :

They're saying thirteen fatalities   and 15 injuries so far.  

[00:36:28] Unknown:

Yeah. That was pretty nasty.  

[00:36:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I am I am sorry to hear that, but I I just love the wording on that.   The crash was preceded   by the separation of the plane's left engine.  

[00:36:41] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[00:36:43] Duuude-Ron :

That's a nice way of saying your shit fell off.  

[00:36:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. What else what does it call it?   See, there's one of them. So it says   see here.   Copy the link,   and there we go.   Yeah. Kind of,   don't watch how they,   SpaceX goes off and call,   calls,   explosions rapid rapid unscheduled   disassemblies.  

[00:37:16] Duuude-Ron :

I love that wording.   Rapid unscheduled   disassemblies.  

[00:37:24] Unknown:

Oh my gosh.   Oh,  

[00:37:27] Rich Chelson:

wow. Oh, let's see here. There's, there's the u p that's the one they got from the airport.  

[00:37:33] Duuude-Ron :

So there we go. Copy.   Oh my gosh.  

[00:37:38] Rich Chelson:

Paste.   And then see if I can find the one with guys sitting in the eye.  

[00:37:44] Unknown:

Now we're not gonna be able to watch these while we're on the podcast. And as soon as Well, you can you can watch them, but you can  

[00:37:52] Rich Chelson:

but,   I'll   our our listeners won't hear what's being said.  

[00:37:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, well,   I've got them to where the   where the sound is. I mean, I don't need the sound. I just need to I mean, I've this I've watched the second one here.  

[00:38:09] Rich Chelson:

Wow.   That's crazy.   I'm looking for the guy that's   sitting there.  

[00:38:15] Unknown:

Oh, the one in the truck? Yeah. The guy in the truck.  

[00:38:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Thought it was under abrupt payoff, the subreddit, but I'm not finding it.  

[00:38:25] Duuude-Ron :

No. I I had not heard about that at all. I didn't know.   And this happened   yesterday.  

[00:38:32] Rich Chelson:

This is, this is one, but it's not someone's   not really edited much. So   let's see here.   Copy link.  

[00:38:43] Unknown:

There we go.  

[00:38:44] Rich Chelson:

There we go. There we go. Because, basically, they just did a screenshot of the whole, the whole   recording   screen. And so it's   it's got the guy's reaction,   the plane,   and and the player down the bottom, and it's like, okay. You get to cut a lot of that out, but oh, well.   You can if you had a big enough screen, you you'll see what's going on.  

[00:39:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I can see it.   Yeah. That dude in the truck,   he he had never seen no shit like that. I knew. I'd been like, holy  

[00:39:14] Rich Chelson:

shit. Yeah. I'd been doing this this bit.  

[00:39:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yo. Yeah. Definitely.   Yeah. I'd be like, oh, hell no.   I don't know where he ran to when he got out of his truck, but  

[00:39:27] Rich Chelson:

That's the opposite direction.  

[00:39:29] Duuude-Ron :

That pretty well could've been.   I probably would've been I probably would've done the same thing.   I don't well, I don't run. So  

[00:39:40] Unknown:

Right.   Yeah. He ran to the back of the truck.  

[00:39:44] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:39:45] Unknown:

You can see him in the video.   Ali. Right, Jan. You know what?   Sorry. Individual didn't even fucking make an attempt to grab his fire extinguisher out of the truck.  

[00:39:59] Duuude-Ron :

A little five pound BC.   I got it. I got it. I'll put the fire  

[00:40:05] Rich Chelson:

out. You're fine. It it's boiling. It's a it's a it's a class b fire. Yeah. Right?  

[00:40:11] Unknown:

Yeah. But Well, at least we got a 20 pounder in our trucks. Yeah.  

[00:40:16] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yes. Somehow, I still don't think a 20 pounder would work. It probably wouldn't even put a dent in it, dude.  

[00:40:23] Unknown:

Sure. But you never know.  

[00:40:26] Unknown:

Now a fucking   JP eight.  

[00:40:29] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh. Yeah.   You never know, dude.  

[00:40:32] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, you just never know.  

[00:40:35] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, you're probably right, but I'm just you know, there's always that possibility.  

[00:40:40] Unknown:

Yeah. And then the other   and what we're talking about earlier, Brian, is the other travesty that happened in New York City.  

[00:40:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. About the   Mondami?  

[00:40:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:40:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's   gonna be interesting   because, I mean, hell, we've got, we got,   Abbott saying, yep. We're gonna call we're gonna lay a lay a turn up on anybody trying to move into Texas from from New York.   Like, okay. I don't know how you go pull that one off, but that would be funny if you do.  

[00:41:12] Duuude-Ron :

Well, hold it. Think about it.   New I know New Jersey   has an exit tax. If you leave New Jersey, you have to pay New Jersey   for the right to leave. So I don't see how What?   Yes.   Look it up.   New Jersey state law.   If you live in New Jersey and you move to another state,   they trade   tax on your income tax.   Yes, sir. Look it up.   That's been that way for years.   Yeah. The state that sits on a freaking garbage dump.   So, yeah, I'd I I mean, I could see Texas doing that.   I don't know if they're gonna do it, but I could see it.  

[00:41:57] Unknown:

Texas just needs to succeed from the union,   build a fucking wall around Texas.   I I don't know what good that would do, but, you know, hey.  

[00:42:07] Rich Chelson:

Well, just just go around go around Oklahoma too. That way, it might you at least have a couple square corners you can go or and you can make turns on.   Just trying to make that   make along the, the Red River there is gonna suck.  

[00:42:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, true. True. Yeah.  

[00:42:24] Unknown:

Very much so.  

[00:42:26] Rich Chelson:

So Lanex, Texas, and Oklahoma, and   it'll be all kind it'll be all kosher.  

[00:42:32] Duuude-Ron :

That would be a challenge. But  

[00:42:34] Unknown:

but would Texas wanna bring Oklahoma along, though? That's the question.  

[00:42:39] Rich Chelson:

You   should have something.   They gotta continue the Red River rivalry anyhow. So, yeah, you know, you just keep OU and Texas,   you know, bashing heads.   So  

[00:42:50] Unknown:

Yeah. Be yeah. Because then it everybody have to get passports.  

[00:42:55] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See?  

[00:42:56] Unknown:

If you don't see the game.   Right.   Wouldn't hurt my feelings, man.   That would just, like,   rock everybody's world if Texas   did that.   Right.   Which they are   they can do.  

[00:43:12] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[00:43:14] Duuude-Ron :

But the thing is, will they?  

[00:43:16] Unknown:

That's Well, if the country get, you know, if the country gets so fucking bad, they just may.  

[00:43:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. You know? Yeah. Really can't argue with that point. Just And and they'll they'll say,  

[00:43:27] Unknown:

ain't fucking nobody coming   from New York, California.   Fuck y'all.  

[00:43:33] Rich Chelson:

Right. New York, California, even Oklahoma.   So  

[00:43:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You know it's bad when they say fuck y'all to Oklahomans.  

[00:43:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:43:45] Duuude-Ron :

You know it's bad when they say that. They're like, oh, hell no.   Yeah. I don't know. I I I just been I just been kinda   detached   from   my news outlets   pretty much.   I don't know why. I just been I just been busy doing   other things. Yeah.  

[00:44:05] Rich Chelson:

Well, the only thing I really pay it to do is over on Daily Mail. That's about the only only news source I'll I'll dip into from time to time.  

[00:44:13] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I will say   this Brave Browser wants me to turn on their news.   I don't know if I wanna do that yet.  

[00:44:22] Unknown:

Brave Browser. Is that the name of it?  

[00:44:25] Rich Chelson:

Yes. The Brave Browser. It's it's a it it it's a neat   way. It's a kind of a security browser, but at the same time, it also has a   a blockchain element to it.   So the way that they make money is by showing ads,   but you get paid for looking at the ads.  

[00:44:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And the ads,   they don't know where you're at. They don't know they don't know who who's seeing their ads. They just know their ads are being shown.  

[00:44:56] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[00:44:57] Unknown:

And the end of   no. Okay.  

[00:45:00] Duuude-Ron :

And what?  

[00:45:02] Unknown:

I'm good. I'm good. It kinda like duck kinda like duck duck. It it what the fuck is that? DuckDuckGo?  

[00:45:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I use that as my search engine.  

[00:45:12] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah.   Versus Chrome.  

[00:45:15] Rich Chelson:

Well,   DuckDuckGo uses   uses Google search,   but they take all the, they block out all the extra various   information that Google search actually collects.  

[00:45:28] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[00:45:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Brave   Brave is a is a is a secure browser. The,   now if you wanna really   browse privately,   you can browse with Brave in a private window with Tor.   You can get on the Tor network  

[00:45:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:45:48] Duuude-Ron :

And everything.   So   and I mean I mean, the way I'm set up   shit. I've got a I've got a firewall set up   and a VPN set up   all for free. I didn't spend any money on any of this shit.   And,   so I don't always   browse   with a private window in Tor, but I can if I want.  

[00:46:12] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:46:15] Duuude-Ron :

Babe.   Yeah. Brave. Yeah. Brave is like I mean, it's like Chrome. It's like it.  

[00:46:21] Rich Chelson:

Looks like it. Yeah. I mean, it runs off of Chromium Chromium   Browser. The open source Chromium,   Chromium engine. Yeah. This is I mean, you can actually go to Google Chrome   and install their, their plugins and extensions.   Yeah.   I mean, if you're try if you're going for security, you probably don't wanna do that, but, you know,   at the same time know some.  

[00:46:45] Unknown:

Go ahead.  

[00:46:46] Rich Chelson:

No. I was just saying, but at the same time, you know, you might   you can.  

[00:46:51] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   Yeah. I yeah. See, I don't I don't think I have any extensions on Brave yet.   I   haven't needed any.  

[00:47:01] Rich Chelson:

I am.   I I've I've used I I've got,   Bitwarden and and on on there. So   What Warden?   Bitwarden, it's a password saver.  

[00:47:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   It saves all your passwords.  

[00:47:18] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Makes them up as they go.  

[00:47:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   But   yeah. No. I I was smart this time when I switched operating systems.   I went to Chrome   on Windows,   and I downloaded all my bookmarks and all my passwords   and then reinstalled them once I got,   meant up. You know? Uh-huh.   I didn't lose I didn't lose my logins or nothing.  

[00:47:46] Rich Chelson:

Well, I I do that, but I it's because I log in to Chrome itself.   And so everything's backed up on on,   on Google Drive.   Right.  

[00:47:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I just I just did it   just   right from Chrome on Windows   because I was right there. I was like, you know what?   Let's do it. Yeah. I'm gonna do it this time because, normally, I don't.   And then I gotta go back through, and then I gotta remember all my passwords. And it's like, no. Hell no. I shit. I can't do that.  

[00:48:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's one reason why I like Brit Wharton and and, LastPass and those place types of places   because you   don't have to remember your passwords. You all you have to remember is your master password, and then everything else is saved on on there.  

[00:48:34] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Well,   let's say when I had Windows. I tried bit Warden.   Oh my god. That thing.   Any oh, man.   I   I one, I could never remember my master password.   And   every time I tried to log in and thought I remembered my master password,   it it was always it was always giving me something else, and I'm like, no. Screw you. I'm done.   Just   get off my system.   So that's why I I don't Yeah. Screw you. K. So that's why you write it down,  

[00:49:08] Unknown:

take a fucking picture of it,   and you have it in your phone.  

[00:49:15] Duuude-Ron :

I would I would have I would have a thousand page volume book   and about   one gig of or not even one gig of of memory left  

[00:49:25] Rich Chelson:

with my Picture.  

[00:49:27] Unknown:

No. I'm talking about your master.   Take a picture of your master.   So you only have one   that you have to remember.  

[00:49:36] Duuude-Ron :

Right?  

[00:49:37] Unknown:

And you go from there   or let the system go from there or however the fuck it works.  

[00:49:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's normally how it goes. You you will set your master password, and then as you log in to your sites with with the other passwords,   it offers to save them. And then   when you go back to them sites, it's like, enter your master password, and it'll fill everything in for you.   I just I just found   it clunky for me.  

[00:50:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, usually, you just have to log in to the master password. You can actually set up where you log in your master password once for the day.   And,   and then after that, you just you go you go to it, and it'll, it'll say, hey. These are all the passwords for this particular,   websites.   You get to choose whichever one and you you need, and   it'll, it'll put in the username and the password, typically.   There's there's some that are now   they're they're changed something up where it won't let you put it put it in, so you actually have to manually enter the password in, which   sucks.  

So because I use I use the the the   use, like, 15 characters,   and they're all randomized. So it's, like,   6Caret7GGLittleGTHZQUppercaseZ.   Like, it's oh, SonOfABitch.   InfocyteAsterisk.  

[00:51:09] Duuude-Ron :

See. Yeah. No. I   I'm out, dude. I'm out. Yeah.  

[00:51:15] Unknown:

So to really quick change the whole subject altogether,   you guys know that when I smoke, I come outside either on the front porch or on the back porch.   And so I'm sitting out here on the front porch.   There's this guy that goes up and down my street regularly   that has   it's an older Mustang, not '67   style that, like, you know,   maybe   February  

[00:51:42] Rich Chelson:

type Mustang.  

[00:51:44] Unknown:

So it's not old, but it's not brand new.   This dude has   that fucking car slammed   all the way down.   It's riding on   like, when you're when you go so far with your shocks,   how it's on a bumper   stop.  

[00:52:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:52:06] Unknown:

This car is locked on those bumper stops.   That's how far he's got it slammed. And then he's got the rubber band fucking tires.   So his undercarriage   is about   maybe   an inch   off the street.  

[00:52:22] Rich Chelson:

And he  

[00:52:24] Unknown:

He drives down this street. And, I mean, we got some fucking   I can roll right over him, but he has to fucking land or he has to navigate the landmines   on our street because of the manhole covers and all the   patches they put into the fucking road over the years.   Right.   But he's going down   right in front of my house. We have just a little bit of a dip   in the asphalt, and he hits that   and bounces   and   scrapes the bottom of his fucking car. I'm like,   you are fucking   hilarious.  

[00:53:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. That's sweet, dude, but these is is unpractical.  

[00:53:14] Unknown:

It's every bit of fucking   stupid.   Now and and I've had   a lowrider   in my lifetime.   I know you guys don't believe that, but, yes, I had a fucking lowrider. Well, you probably had a few slats. Yeah.  

[00:53:31] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, I had a That was back that was back when you had a Mohawk.  

[00:53:35] Unknown:

Well, close.   Yeah. When I when actually when I could actually grow hair, you know, and I didn't I actually had a forehead, not a twenty nine head.   So, yeah, I had hair back then, and I couldn't put it into a Mohawk. But, you know, I had a Mazda extended cab pickup truck that I   lowered and slammed it down to the ground,   and it's fucking   yeah.   When you're on the fucking   yeah, every bit of lower down and the only thing you have are the shocks or the tires.   Yeah. That was a fucking rough ride. Rough ride. Yeah.   Yeah.  

So I had it like that for,   oh, about three months,   maybe four months.  

[00:54:20] Rich Chelson:

So But but I can't understand anyone.  

[00:54:24] Unknown:

Yeah.   I'm like, and why the fuck did I even try to attempt that shit?  

[00:54:30] Rich Chelson:

Mostly like fun at the moment.  

[00:54:32] Duuude-Ron :

You got the You did?  

[00:54:34] Unknown:

No.   Yeah. Yeah. No. I just fucking lost a damn part of the front bumper one trip, and,   yeah, it was fucking ugly.  

[00:54:42] Rich Chelson:

So then he went off and put a seven inch lift on it and  

[00:54:47] Unknown:

No. I just put it back up to OEM height and   fucking actually had a comfortable ride.  

[00:54:55] Duuude-Ron :

And the panties stopped flying off.  

[00:54:58] Unknown:

Yep.   That's right. And then it went back to the then it went back to the bank.  

[00:55:04] Rich Chelson:

Back to banks.  

[00:55:05] Unknown:

Yep. When I filed for bankruptcy.   So that was my first   new vehicle that I ever had in my life.   Was that Mazda b   2,200   pickup truck.  

[00:55:18] Duuude-Ron :

That was the truck, man. Back in the day, that was a shit.  

[00:55:23] Unknown:

Yeah.   You're right. It was.   And then I turned it into a polish.   Shit. When I lowered it, it's tongue, bitch.  

[00:55:33] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I   I had one. It was a '88.   And this was in '89. Oh, man. I love that truck. I had it for a couple months and then figured out I couldn't afford it.  

[00:55:44] Unknown:

So what was it?   What kind or what what was it? Model three.  

[00:55:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Model three.  

[00:55:52] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[00:55:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh, yeah. I loved it.   A little low five speed. Basic model five speed.  

[00:56:00] Unknown:

Yep. Mine was five speed as well.  

[00:56:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. My little five speed was a little Ford Escort that I got for free. I want it. So  

[00:56:09] Unknown:

And it and it was not even remotely close to an Escort GT, was it?  

[00:56:15] Rich Chelson:

No. It was an Escort Pony. It was just a little two door and just little two door aspect. But I got the damn thing ran. They have a branch bank, and they didn't have a radio or anything, but it was  

[00:56:27] Duuude-Ron :

I liked it.  

[00:56:28] Rich Chelson:

Hey. Free 99 works for me. Free 99 was was the right price.   Yes, sir. Well, I actually wasn't free because even that's where I learned that, oh, by the way, they'll consider when you win a car, it'd income. So all of a sudden, there's, like, $1,500   on my I had to come up on taxes.   I don't scrub my ass with a knife. But I had a panic because it was a fucking teenager.   Every two years old, all of a sudden, they would pay $1,500   in taxes.  

[00:57:01] Duuude-Ron :

I need a payment plan.  

[00:57:06] Unknown:

So that's why you joined the arm or the navy.  

[00:57:09] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No. Just   ended up by and it's they looked at paid paid that, and I ended up having to work pay them back. So   but now I I joined the navy after that.  

[00:57:23] Unknown:

It's always fun how it goes full circle.  

[00:57:25] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   No. No. I drove the navy because I was,   had a had a kiddo and   was having to pay child support for her, and I was like, yeah. I don't know what, what to do. I'm I barely even paying my paying my rent   with my roommate and stuff, and   life with the roommate was getting pretty tense. And so   I was like, alright. Yeah. Let's,   let's let's see what happens if we go check out the,   check out a,   the the armed services. We used to get three hots of the cot. So  

[00:58:02] Unknown:

And in the navy, you barely and in the navy, you barely get a cot.  

[00:58:06] Rich Chelson:

Hey. You get a cop in Iraq.  

[00:58:08] Unknown:

Yeah. And then you have to share, don't you?  

[00:58:11] Rich Chelson:

No. Only in the only if you're in, like, the, a sub.   You have to hot rack it.  

[00:58:17] Unknown:

Yeah. No. Thank you. So  

[00:58:20] Rich Chelson:

but, no, I wasn't a bubble head. So  

[00:58:22] Duuude-Ron :

See, I I wanted the cot by myself.  

[00:58:26] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Now granted, I had the I had the the the top one, so they were three they were three high. So   the top one. So he had to he had to scale in and make sure you don't step on anybody's bed because that's the first class petty officers that get the middle bunk.   So   get yourself in trouble if you do that.  

[00:58:47] Duuude-Ron :

I'll give him a fifth of whiskey. That'll be fine.  

[00:58:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And   the first class I was   I I slept over was my fucking nemesis.   So  

[00:59:01] Duuude-Ron :

so I used to just bet every chance you got.  

[00:59:04] Rich Chelson:

Say again?  

[00:59:05] Unknown:

No. Petty a petty officer, what e grade is that?   E three, c four?  

[00:59:11] Rich Chelson:

056.   Oh, okay.   Yep. Petty officer. Third class,   which is he gets the first and, first, second class get,   third class gets the, gets the, basically, gets the bottom bunk.   Second and third class second and first class get the, middle bunk,   and then the the lowly seamen get the,   get the top bunk.  

[00:59:37] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Well, at least when you're   having a problem getting the street to sleep and you're wrestling around, at least you're not, you know,   moving the bunk of your  

[00:59:50] Rich Chelson:

middle They they get it all. They get it all.   They've got it pretty well pretty well,   solid.   Not to mention that, you'd if you're on top, you at least get to set up.   So  

[01:00:04] Unknown:

Until until you hit your head on that first fucking pipe.  

[01:00:08] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean, you do have the pipe around you, which you wasn't an added advantage as long as they weren't doing inspections.   But you're not supposed to have anything stuffed in the, in the overhead.  

[01:00:18] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:00:20] Rich Chelson:

But   you do?   That's what I've been buying. I I've got a big red blanket, a queen-size red blanket that I got. I I bought in Bahrain.   And I still got it. Okay. We still it big it's called big we call it big red,   and it's   because it's a big big fuzzy blanket.   Big red blanket, and so we we use it in the winter times because, you know, it's big heavy and and and it's suddenly   but   where I slept   in the overhead,   there was a vent.   And when the air conditioner worked, the air conditioner fucking worked, and it blew right on you. And that little   that little little little blanket that they give you did not do shit.  

And so I've   used the this big queen-size,   you know,   blanket   doubled it doubled it over and was sleeping with it.   But, whenever it got done, I'd roll I'd I'd fold it up, and I'd stuff it in the overhead just so that if somebody came in and looked at the bunks,   everything would look nice and neat and clean.   So  

[01:01:31] Unknown:

See, here here's your whole problem with that that whole bedding outfit.   You didn't have a fucking whoopie.  

[01:01:40] Rich Chelson:

No. No. We   we don't do we don't do rubies.  

[01:01:44] Unknown:

I don't see that's your loss. Yeah.  

[01:01:47] Rich Chelson:

But they they're selling rubies on, on TikTok.   Yeah. I've seen a few of them. I'm, like, going,   I'll  

[01:01:56] Unknown:

just go over here to the surplus store and get one. Yeah. Just go to the surplus.   Yep.   They are nice to have. That's the same here.   Oh, yeah.   Oh, I don't know if you guys have seen it yet. I've seen   two now.   Not one,   but two.   You know how they had the package for the f one fifty   that was the Rapture?  

[01:02:23] Rich Chelson:

The f one fifty Raptor?   I believe so. Yeah.  

[01:02:27] Unknown:

Okay.   Now the Broncos   have a Raptor package.  

[01:02:33] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I saw one of those.   Yeah. Yeah. I've seen that. And it's like, oh, really? Come on, people.  

[01:02:41] Unknown:

Yeah.   Just like the bed cover for a Cybertruck.   Yeah. And it and they couldn't have made it any uglier?  

[01:02:52] Rich Chelson:

Oh, they could have. They could have put in a little few more color choices.  

[01:02:57] Unknown:

Oh, that's why that's why everybody's fucking starting to wrap them now.   Yeah.  

[01:03:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Baby blue and and white and   what was the other color that I've seen it as?  

[01:03:11] Unknown:

I've seen   one that had a chameleon.  

[01:03:17] Rich Chelson:

Oh, the the yeah. The color,   changing?  

[01:03:21] Unknown:

Yep. Blue, purple,   blue green.   Yeah. I've seen a couple of those.  

[01:03:28] Rich Chelson:

I saw Some people have too much damn money.  

[01:03:31] Unknown:

Yeah.   I saw a Pepto   Pink   Cybertruck   and went,   damn.   They yeah. That color just made it not ugly, but ugly.   Yep. Fucking ugly truck. Jeez.   Pink is not its color.  

[01:03:55] Rich Chelson:

Nope. But, you know, at least you're not gonna have heartburn while you're around it.  

[01:04:00] Unknown:

Yeah. And I'd have all kinds of stuff. Intestinal  

[01:04:02] Rich Chelson:

distress, but it's not gonna give you it's not gonna give you heartburn. Yeah.  

[01:04:07] Unknown:

Yeah. It may not give you heartburn. It'll give you other, you know,   distresses, and I'll just,   you know, get up on the hood and,   you know, get that distressed out.   Oh, yeah.   But  

[01:04:25] Rich Chelson:

let's see here. What else we got happening? It's happened here recently. I see.   Prince Andrew got kicked out of the, out of the royal family.  

[01:04:34] Unknown:

Yep.   I mean  

[01:04:37] Rich Chelson:

Kicked   Kicked out. The hell out. Yeah. William was, like, going my your house is my house now, bitch. So  

[01:04:45] Unknown:

Yeah. Today, they they stripped him of   Everything.   Everything.   Yeah. I mean yeah.   So now he's gonna have to actually go and find a job   Yep.   All over the fucking   Epstein   issue.  

[01:05:05] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yep. Yep. That's  

[01:05:08] Duuude-Ron :

I didn't do it.  

[01:05:10] Rich Chelson:

You know? You're flying them for  

[01:05:14] Unknown:

No. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.   Alright.   Yeah. I just I laughed at that one.   Yeah. I was him getting kicked out of the royal family, and   they fucking stripping everything from him,   titles, allowances.   Yeah.  

[01:05:33] Duuude-Ron :

Well, didn't he want something like that?  

[01:05:36] Unknown:

No. That was Prince Harry.  

[01:05:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Harry and and,   and Megan.   They're,   Megan was still definitely wanting to be be, you know, rich, famous that she's   she's the toxic form of that, of that little couple.   Nobody likes her. So   Okay. Of course, being being of Hollywood that she is, she's she has to go, well, it's because I'm part black. I was like, no. It's because you're a twat.   So nobody   sees you as being about as fake as could be. So   you're a phony blow you up with a good time rock and roll.  

[01:06:18] Unknown:

As long as Harry loved her.  

[01:06:20] Rich Chelson:

That's all it is. That that's the question, though, isn't it? So there's, like, a few times I've seen pictures of them, and it's like,   no.  

[01:06:29] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean I mean, whose   whose marriage is always perfect?  

[01:06:34] Rich Chelson:

Well, there's there's there's not perfect, and then there's, you know,   the guy who's wreck well, I mean, take my daughter, for example, you know, wrecking her   doing what I perceive as wrecking her life,   you know,   because I hate you're married to. So   Right.  

[01:06:54] Unknown:

Yeah. No such thing as a fucking perfect marriage.  

[01:06:58] Rich Chelson:

No. But  

[01:06:59] Unknown:

Well, I guess there is if you marry yourself.  

[01:07:03] Rich Chelson:

No. Are you one of those that goes off is it one of those one of those guys that goes off and marries an AI?  

[01:07:09] Unknown:

Oh my god.  

[01:07:12] Duuude-Ron :

I mean I mean, dude, if you married yourself, I mean, how often have you argued with yourself   and got married? All the time.  

[01:07:20] Rich Chelson:

Right?  

[01:07:21] Unknown:

Well, see and, yeah, I argue with myself all the time.  

[01:07:25] Rich Chelson:

That's not But I give myself a lot more too.  

[01:07:28] Unknown:

Well, yeah, when when it starts   ass whooping time,   then there's an issue.  

[01:07:35] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:07:37] Duuude-Ron :

What if someone went and married an AI?  

[01:07:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   well, I mean, they there's a lot of people who are using AIs as girlfriends these days.  

[01:07:46] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah.  

[01:07:47] Rich Chelson:

I mean, AIs are that that's kind of the big problem right now is that,   is I think chat GPT has kinda figured out their their,   their model now.   And and that's because no one wants to buy wants to spend, you know, $20   a a month on on the   on the deal. So they're they're turning it in basically into a chatbot,   and there's people who are just it they'll they're experiencing the Eliza effect   where they're like because the it's just asking open questions.   You know, and and so   the these people who are who are   socially starved   are going, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is this this AI is my best friend. It it we have deep,   meaningful conversations with it, and   and you would think we're talking about   Gen Zers.  

No. No. We're talking   Gen Xers are doing the same thing.  

[01:08:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Well, I just I just looked it up,   And, yes, there has been people that have entered into marriages with AI   even though the unions are not legally recognized in any country   as of November 25.   This one girl, Rosanna Ramos,   a woman from the Bronx,   married her AI created partner,   Erin Cartall,   after   developing a relationship   through a replica AI chatbot platform.   Yep.   And then another one is a   Alicia   Framus,   a Spanish Dutch contemporary   artist   who married an AI powered hologram   named   Alex, AI Alex  

[01:09:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:09:40] Duuude-Ron :

In   in in The Netherlands in '24.  

[01:09:45] Rich Chelson:

So   yeah. It's Yeah. Well, they've been but they're they're also coming across the whole problem because there's a,   there's a lawsuit going on right now because   a teenage boy went off and killed himself. And there's   there's   in the, in the text history and and conversation history with the with this with this AI, it was the AI was, like,   egging him on.   What? Help yeah. Was helping him be, helping him wipe the, the suicide note and   was, you   know, because they don't AIs don't   push back.   They don't have they don't   dispute   a a conversation. They just don't want to go along.  

And so I was like, oh, well, if I'm I feel like I'm kill I wanna kill myself. Well, what what do you think about killing yourself? And blah blah. And   it   it will nurture that whole line of thought on.   And they   and they've  

[01:10:46] Unknown:

because Because AI does not does not know two things.   No. It's Common sense common sense and emotions.  

[01:10:54] Rich Chelson:

No. It doesn't have any type of emotion. It doesn't have any type of common sense. It's just   it is a it's not even AI. It's not even intelligence. It is just a large language model,   and that's what everybody   everybody who gets tied up into the AI portion   doesn't   fail to understand is it's not AI. It's not even   at the point of AI.   It's at the point of having   a a   a predictive   solution to what   the next word is supposed to be after the word that it just laid out.  

[01:11:30] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:11:31] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it can come up with with   suggestions and ideas that   we wouldn't think about. You know?  

[01:11:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It comes up with with suggestions and ideas,   but it's also but also those suggestions and ideas if when you're when you're a   say, like, if you're wanting to do copywriting   and you don't know anything about copywriting,   you can go to it and go, hey. Help me copyright this thing in the, in the past or framework   for, for a, coach,   something I've done. And it will. It'll lay out a whole a whole sales letter for past in the pastor framework.   It'll break it down for you. It should that you know which one it is, what, what the p and the, you know, the p and the a and the s and the t and the o and r and all of that. It'll it'll tell you all give you all of it.   But if you're   an expert in the pastoral   framework, you would get you would look at it and go, well, okay. Yeah. That's a decent one. It's it's not great. It's not super.  

It's just it's a pretty good one. And so   it's not it's not   the   it doesn't have the ability to inject a soul into it Well, no. To really get to to live.  

[01:12:50] Duuude-Ron :

And and the thing is, it   people are making it out to   try and be that, but it it was never designed that way. Right.   That's the that's the whole thing.   It wasn't designed to be that. No. It wasn't.   But but the thing is people are trying to make it be that, and it's like, stop.   Just use it for what it is. I mean   I mean, yeah, I use AI and and,   you know,   I   I ask it questions.   It answers my questions, and then,   well, it makes me ask more questions.   Yeah. And I say, show me how to do that. It shows me I tried. If it don't work, I go back, say, no. That shit didn't work. Tell me another way. You know?  

[01:13:38] Rich Chelson:

Oh, well, reboot your kernel.   Rebuild your kernel.  

[01:13:42] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. In fact,  

[01:13:44] Rich Chelson:

when It gets to it eventually.   Maybe it's just re  

[01:13:50] Duuude-Ron :

rebuilding your what? It it hasn't done it with me.  

[01:13:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Rebuild your kernel?  

[01:13:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Rebuilding the kernel is a is a u is a Linux   command that if if your if your system has completely and totally fucked up,   that's one of the things that you can actually do is actually go through and and rebuild the kernel, which is the main   root of the pro of the operating system.  

[01:14:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Believe it or not, actually, even with Apple and with Windows,   they both too as well have kernels. Yeah. They've got kernel.   Every every every computer system has a kernel.  

[01:14:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, Apple is is Linux.  

[01:14:33] Unknown:

And holy shit. I actually fucking learned something that I actually fucking   understood. Understood.  

[01:14:43] Duuude-Ron :

Woo hoo. There's hope for dude yet.   Yay.   Maybe in another fifty years, we can get the other half to him.  

[01:14:51] Unknown:

There you go.   Yeah. In about fifty years, I fucking maybe buy a computer. Right?  

[01:14:58] Rich Chelson:

You buy one confidently going, hey. Yeah, man. That thing's got four gigs of of memory, and   forget that'll be plenty.  

[01:15:06] Unknown:

Right. Right.  

[01:15:08] Unknown:

And okay.   You guys   play on computers. You guys have computers. You guys know computers.   Okay. I haven't had a computer in my house in   fifteen   years.   Yeah. That works. Computer. Yeah. It well, yeah, an operating computer. No. I still have a desktop   that was my stepdad's   when he passed away   freaking   I don't know how many years ago, and it   I brought it down in the box, and it ain't fucking come out of the box yet.   And then that was before   shit.   I don't even know if he'd had fucking windows.  

[01:15:49] Duuude-Ron :

Mark that as vintage and sell it for $200.  

[01:15:55] Unknown:

Yeah. It's well past vintage. Four eighty six computer.  

[01:15:59] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. I remember them.   That's sad. I remember them. Oh, yeah.  

[01:16:05] Rich Chelson:

Got a 05/05   and a five and a quarter, inch floppy,   a three and a half inch floppy, and 32 megabytes of RAM. 30   it's got a thirty two thirty two megs of hard drive space.  

[01:16:20] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right.  

[01:16:22] Unknown:

That was powerful. And it was only   and it was only costed you   $3,000.  

[01:16:29] Rich Chelson:

$100. Exactly.   Yep.   Screaming   the 32 broad modem.   Oh my god. Get on to the BBS systems.  

[01:16:40] Duuude-Ron :

That was that was double the sixteen six they started with. Hell yeah.  

[01:16:46] Rich Chelson:

Man, it takes no time. It only takes one night to download everything instead of three.  

[01:16:52] Unknown:

And when Yahoo   came up and you had that   nice   digital   tone   to you've got mail   Yeah. And try to get on it to see your mail. Well, that was a different fucking story altogether.  

[01:17:09] Duuude-Ron :

Shit. That was what? '95?  

[01:17:11] Rich Chelson:

'96. Yeah. '95, '96, '96, '97.   '5. Well, '95 is when AOL really kinda started getting around, but, yeah, I was on there about 9697.  

[01:17:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It was it was '93   or '94 when I I was playing with Windows   3.1 for work groups.  

[01:17:33] Unknown:

Ah. So Here comes that Mustang.  

[01:17:37] Rich Chelson:

Oh, fuck god.  

[01:17:39] Unknown:

I mean, the the street   yeah. He's laying   he just came back by on the street, that Mustang,   and he's laying all kinds of fucking sparks on the ground.   I'm   like,   every time I see that car, I just have to shake my head and laugh and go,   damn.  

[01:17:59] Rich Chelson:

At least possibly urethane, you know, good piece of urethane armor and lay it on the underside of the   of the of the car so at least it slides over everything.  

[01:18:10] Unknown:

So then or get it down. I can't remember what that is that they're   they use on motorcycles   when they're popping wheelies to create all the sparks.  

[01:18:20] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[01:18:22] Unknown:

Yep. I don't know what the hell is that element.  

[01:18:25] Duuude-Ron :

All It's flint.  

[01:18:27] Rich Chelson:

Flint. Well, I thought it was not magnesium, but it's,  

[01:18:30] Unknown:

Magnesium.   Yeah. It's magnesium.  

[01:18:35] Rich Chelson:

Damn. Because that magnesium gets tell you what. Don't throw it. It goes it doesn't go out until it's until it's burnt up.  

[01:18:43] Unknown:

And, well, then it may it may partially be magnesium.   Yeah. But, yeah, that's that's what he needs up underneath his car just to throw all kinds of fucking sparks.  

[01:18:53] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:18:54] Unknown:

And just, you know, entertain   everybody.  

[01:18:58] Duuude-Ron :

Give you a better light show.  

[01:19:00] Unknown:

Yeah. Most definitely. That's what I need is a good light show. Come on. If you're gonna throw some parts,   you know, at least   have a 10 foot trail behind you.   You know, kinda like a Roman candle type thing.  

[01:19:16] Duuude-Ron :

Now that'd be cool.  

[01:19:18] Unknown:

You know what? That's what we need to do one day is have a Roman candle fight.  

[01:19:23] Rich Chelson:

I haven't done that since I was a teenager. I was gonna say and there's a reason why. We can't run that fast anymore.   Right. We break hips trying to get out of each other's way.  

[01:19:34] Duuude-Ron :

We'd be in traction having Roman candle fights. Yeah. Oh god.  

[01:19:40] Rich Chelson:

Back it up, buddy. Back it up.  

[01:19:44] Unknown:

Yeah. Back your scooter up.  

[01:19:48] Rich Chelson:

Alright.  

[01:19:50] Unknown:

Yeah. I've seen videos on YouTube where   motorcycle   clubs with the crotch rockets, they pop a wheelie, and then they'll   have, like, a 100 shot Roman candle   Yeah. I don't know. On the motorcycle up into the air. Yeah.  

[01:20:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I ain't never seen that. Got a couple tubes strapped to the sides of his, sides of his of his motorcycle and   pops a wheelie, stands on the back and just   Oh,  

[01:20:19] Unknown:

okay.  

[01:20:20] Duuude-Ron :

I might have to look like a like a two  

[01:20:23] Unknown:

a 200 or 300 shot Roman candle   because it goes for a while.   Yeah. Yeah. And he's doing it on the fucking freeway.  

[01:20:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Going down the going down the freeway, which is, you know, smart.  

[01:20:39] Duuude-Ron :

Is that here in America, or is that in if I had to guess, probably.  

[01:20:43] Rich Chelson:

More likely, it's probably in something like like, Fort Worth or something.   Because, yeah, it looked like it was in The US. Or Houston. They were going to Houston. The overpasses  

[01:20:53] Unknown:

and fucking Roman candles bouncing off the   bottom of the bridge.   Yeah. I would you know what? That would I would not be surprised   going through Houston if I didn't see something like  

[01:21:08] Rich Chelson:

that. Sound.   Alright, guys. I'm gonna I'm gonna hop off for a second. I gotta grab a trailer.   So Okay.   Grab yourself a trailer. Yep. Grab it with both hands, though. Both hands. I'm gonna grab the kingpin with both hands and just   let the grease   ooze between my fingers.  

[01:21:26] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah, dude. I love that, man. Yeah. Yammers.  

[01:21:31] Rich Chelson:

Alright.  

[01:21:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god.  

[01:21:36] Unknown:

We are we are such  

[01:21:39] Duuude-Ron :

we are so ate up. It's unreal.  

[01:21:41] Unknown:

Ate up from the motherfucking floor up.  

[01:21:44] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Oh. We are light. No. You didn't look. I know you didn't look, but last week's episode,   I forgot to say something when a when   a when a Brian was on. I just remembered it. So we'll have to tell Brian when he gets back on. But   the title for last week's episode is called the Booger Belt Brigade.   Booger   Belt Brigade.   Yeah. Booger Belt. Remember this, Brian said,   it was something to do with what Brian was talking about in the navy.  

[01:22:19] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Okay. No. I don't remember. That's that was fucking a week ago.   Come on, dude. I'm a fucking re like, I'm a remember that shit. I I have a hard fucking time remembering what the hell my name is when I get up in the morning.  

[01:22:35] Duuude-Ron :

It's dude.   It's dude. Your name is dude.  

[01:22:39] Unknown:

I get up, go look in the mirror. It's like, who the fuck is that asshole?   Man, he's about fucking ancient.  

[01:22:46] Duuude-Ron :

You know, we need to have your name tattooed on your forehead backwards.   So when you look in the mirror, you know what your name is every morning.   Oh, yeah. My name is dude.  

[01:22:59] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:23:00] Unknown:

Well, at least I have not forgotten how to   drive my truck and know the fucking   DOT regulations that deal with me.   However, we're fixing to go through a DOT audit,   not Really? Next week, but the following week.   Yeah. An internal   internal DOT audit.  

[01:23:19] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Well, you ain't got nothing to worry about. Yeah. Wanna bet?   What you gotta worry about? The straps on my trailer.   Are they unserviceable?  

[01:23:30] Unknown:

Well, they're they're starting to get a little bit chafed because   at the tombstone   points, if we don't have any pallets,   we have to wrap the strap around and tighten in around the tombstone.   Mhmm. And where the strap hits the metal   after a while, it well, it starts to chafe.   Right.   Now   are mine unserviceable?   You know, that is in the eye of the beholder.   To me,   I might have four   that are almost   unserviceable because they haven't started fraying   yet.  

[01:24:10] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Then they're not unserviceable   because the FMCSA,   has has actual regulations   about chafing and all like that on straps.   That is correct.   So  

[01:24:25] Unknown:

That is correct. However,   our internal   auditor,   it don't fucking matter.   He will find   something   on every truck.  

[01:24:37] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But but you see, that's   that's internal. That's not DOT. So, actually, that's a good thing.   Yes. It   is. Because this way here, I mean,   you actually want him to find something.   So   DOT doesn't find you, and you have to pay money.  

[01:24:55] Unknown:

Well, that's very true.  

[01:24:57] Duuude-Ron :

So But yeah.  

[01:25:00] Unknown:

And he does he is very thorough in his audit,   and   we try to be very thorough   so that he does not   make a comment. But he's gonna make some type of a comment.   I had well, it wasn't me,   but we had one guy that and my trailer will start doing it here pretty soon because it's getting cold.   My ABS light will come on   when I start the truck, and it won't go off   until I move about   10 feet.  

[01:25:39] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[01:25:40] Unknown:

And then it will go off.   And it has done it   every fucking winter   consistently.   Now it doesn't happen every single day.  

[01:25:51] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:25:52] Unknown:

But the ABS light will come on when I start it or when I hit, you know, the   turn on the ignition   to let the glow plugs or, you know, let the, you know, diesel system get warm enough to start it up.   My ABS light on my dash will come on, and it'll stay on and so will my light on the trailer.   But as soon as I move about 10 feet,   it will shut off,   and it has always done that   in the cold.  

[01:26:24] Duuude-Ron :

That's weird.  

[01:26:25] Unknown:

But at least I know that it's going to go off after about 10 feet.   Right. But if and we're supposed to have a cold front, well, the whole United States is getting a cold front coming through on Sunday.   We're supposed to have   we're we got frost warning   for Sunday night.  

[01:26:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's yeah. I'm I'm watching the weather, and it's saying   Monday night here is supposed to be, like, a low of 37. And Brian had had sent me a thing he saw on TikTok about the cold weather coming down, and I told him I said, I might be podcasting   from Belize next week.  

[01:27:07] Unknown:

You just never know.   Right. You just never know.  

[01:27:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. It it it it it just   I'll tell you it yeah.   Well, it seems from actually,   Monday morning,   it's supposed to be in the forties   through   Wednesday   evening.   It's supposed to be chilly. After that, it's supposed to warm back up down here.  

[01:27:31] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Well, I haven't seen it   past   a week.   But like I said, Sunday night, we're supposed to it's the cold front's supposed to come through here,   and we have freeze warning for Sunday into Monday.   And then   the high for Monday   is,   like,   58   or 61   for the high.   Yeah. Where today   where today, the high was 83,   84.  

[01:28:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So you're   gonna freeze your nuts off.  

[01:28:10] Unknown:

Why, yes, I fucking will.  

[01:28:12] Duuude-Ron :

That's like that's like it's been in the seventies.   And it's supposed to be in the seventies until Monday where the high is only supposed to be 55.   And it hasn't said nothing about no wind, but,   yeah, I'm not I'm I'm probably gonna be inside   those days. I'm not even gonna come outside.   Bella will because Bella will have to go potty, but you know?  

[01:28:34] Unknown:

Well and you're gonna have to smoke. So   Right. What you gonna do, drill a hole in the fucking side of your wall and get a tube so you can smoke and exhale the smoke out of a little tube to the outside   while you're in your recliner?  

[01:28:49] Duuude-Ron :

You know you know, that is a pretty damn good idea, honestly.   I kinda I kinda like your, thinking there, dude.   Wow.  

[01:29:00] Unknown:

Or you could   or you could always, you know, add a pipe to your   to your dryer vent.  

[01:29:08] Duuude-Ron :

This is true.   This is true. I'd be I'd be I I'll be looking like I'm huffing a dryer vent, but, you know  

[01:29:16] Unknown:

And and and, see, it'll also serve a dual purpose too.   So when you have   the dryer on,   you can   stuff that tube up in your   shorts   and   heat   d's nuts.  

[01:29:41] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, shit, man.   Oh my gosh.  

[01:29:45] Unknown:

Or blow dry your hair. You know?   Pick one.  

[01:29:50] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   It's it's it it is multiuse.  

[01:29:54] Unknown:

Yes. It was   I mean  

[01:29:58] Duuude-Ron :

That is funny.  

[01:29:59] Unknown:

Good. Now I could always put it in the back of my shirt and, you know,   blow dry the hair on my back,   you know, after I get done weaving it.  

[01:30:10] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. You don't want tangles now.  

[01:30:15] Unknown:

Don't want tangles. No. No. No. And if it ever gets to the point to where I can braid it, I am definitely   fucking   screwed.   I am well past fucked if that ever happened.  

[01:30:31] Duuude-Ron :

But yeah. No. I'll I'll I'll I'll put Linux Mint on,   that, laptop you left me. And   and it'll runs and   I I mean,   you know, if there's any extra programs you want, you know, I can put those on too.  

[01:30:47] Unknown:

Well and the whole reason why I bought that from my boss when he got   his newer computer   when he was going to school   was   to give it to the grandkids so they had a computer   to do whatever the hell   for school or or what have you.   Yeah. But that was that's where the whole intent of me buying it   was to give it to them.   So, yeah, it it will it will go back.   If it's able to get operating, you know, I'll give it to the grandkids so they have you know, if they need it for school or what have you,   that was the only purpose.  

[01:31:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you would just have to tell them   that it's a it's it's it's not a Windows operating system because it does   there's a couple things that   that, like, you know, updating it and stuff like that.   I mean,   it shows a little icon. You just click on it, and then it installs the updates  

[01:31:51] Unknown:

and goes from there. You know? But Alright. Do you know what?   I'm sure they could fucking figure it out. They have   a hell of a lot more knowledge in that shit than I do. Yeah. But just don't give them root access.   Give them what access? Root? Root.  

[01:32:08] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.   Like super admin.  

[01:32:11] Unknown:

Yeah. No. They won't get root access.  

[01:32:15] Duuude-Ron :

I don't let them have root access so they can learn how to use it quicker,  

[01:32:19] Unknown:

or   or they You know?  

[01:32:22] Unknown:

Or they're testing.  

[01:32:24] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, it's   I mean I mean, seriously, yeah, root access, you can, yeah, mess a lot of things up, but   one of the ways to learn   is to have root access.   Yeah.   You know? And you see, that's the thing. Your grandkids   are are are so   and, you know, if they're if they're doing anything with computers,   they're probably,   you know, programming or or whatnot like this. So, actually,   this would be this would be a perfect   computer for them because   they can open up a terminal   or whatever   and,   you know, build their own apps or build their own programs.   Yeah. Yeah. Let them have good access.  



[01:33:12] Unknown:

You know, six of this, half a dozen of another.  

[01:33:16] Duuude-Ron :

You know, that's the thing. I mean,   do you know what they're into?  

[01:33:21] Unknown:

No. Not really anymore.   Unfortunately, I couldn't tell you.  

[01:33:27] Duuude-Ron :

So they're past the stage of,   of,   say, of picking their nose and eating it?  

[01:33:33] Unknown:

Oh, well past that stage.   Okay. One of them one of them's   let's see.   I think they're 13 and 11   or 13 and 12 now   because they're they're eighteen months apart.  

[01:33:48] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well, either way I mean, either way, if their school is worth anything,   their school is probably teaching them,   you know,   some type of computer shit.   So  

[01:34:01] Unknown:

Uh-huh.   And you know what?   Hopefully, they fucking   and from what I heard,   several states   home economics   back into the curriculum,   which why they fucking took it out in the first place   is beyond Because it's so   oppressive to women.   Yeah.   Well, if they can't fucking balance the goddamn checkbook, then sucks to be, you know, sucks to suck. Sucks to be them or whoever.   But you know what?   I had a cashier,   and   she was   in   senior in high school   and could not count me   my change back   when I gave her dollar bills.   Right.   And I   she said, I don't have my calculator. She goes,   how many quarters is 75¢?  

I'm like,   are you serious?   You don't know how many quarters are in 75¢?   Because my change was 8 my change was 82   back,   and she could not count it out   of a dollar bill.  

[01:35:22] Rich Chelson:

Right. And and when she said Well, kids these days, they can't read clock either.   And what gray trips them up is four ounces.  

[01:35:31] Unknown:

Trips them up is what?  

[01:35:33] Rich Chelson:

Florida ounces.  

[01:35:35] Duuude-Ron :

Florida ounces?  

[01:35:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. What's what's the, what's the abbreviation for Florida?   FL. FL   ounces?   Fluid ounces. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's fluid ounces, but there there have been a couple kids who have gone around and gone,   how how many cups is in a fluid ounce?  

[01:35:54] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. Okay.  

[01:35:57] Unknown:

Well and you're right. And   I had a kid   when I was working in the skating rink, and this was in he was   in high school,   and we had a   a regular   faced rotary   clock.   Yep.   And   this was in 9099,   and he could not fucking read a clock   because they had to you know, I had so many skate counter kids,   and   every half hour,   they had to switch.   So I gave them the times of when they had to be there.   And don't be late   on your shift. And it wasn't freaking hard. All I had to do was stand there for half an hour   in case somebody needed skates or somebody needed the skates fixed or something. Right. Somebody was at the skate counter.   And they had a I had a rotary clock.  

It was, you know, on the wall at the counter,   and this kid could not fucking read the time.   I'm like  

[01:37:07] Duuude-Ron :

And you say that was a problem with the digital watch when it came out.   It caused I know. One just stopped using their brains.  

[01:37:15] Unknown:

Yeah. You're right about that.   That's just all it is right there. In the same unit as I was.  

[01:37:21] Rich Chelson:

Well, and that's the problem that people are running into with AI now.   AI is   causing people to not have to utilize their imagination and exercise their brain. And so, yeah, they're getting   soft on   coming up with, with creative ideas.   I saw a video,   earlier this week. It was, actually, it was a fairly old one. And Matt Walsh was talking about   the   week,   not social media, but pop culture.   And that was around   2005,   2008 was when we had peak   pop culture. We had some of the best movies. We had some of the best television series.   Everybody was sitting around talking about   what was going on, you know,   but it was you know, the the culture was popular culture was the was what everybody was talking about.  

And it was around 2005,   2008   is when we had some of the best movies,   best muse well, not best music. The music died out   died out thanks to, Napster, actually.  

[01:38:31] Unknown:

Yeah. What movies?  

[01:38:33] Rich Chelson:

I would have to look it up when I'm driving. So   but,   but, you know, leading up to that were some of the best some of the best movies,   had some of the best hits,   but, you know,   we,   music,   the popular music died off because we started fracturing   around the time Napster came out because we used to all sit around and listen to the radio.   We'd all hear the same music and hear all the same same DJs and all that, and we had this we had a community built around the music. We had a community built around the movies, yada yada yada.   Yeah.  

And then when Napster came along and then Apple Apple   Music came out,   and all of a sudden, our our,   music listing became very fractured because it was very tailored to my liking.   It was tailored it's tailored to your liking, tailored to Rich's liking, tailored to everybody else's liking. They have their own little playlist and stuff.   And so   all of a sudden, our,   culture got a whole lot smaller.   Nowadays,   who's on the top 20?   Do you have a clue? I don't.  

[01:39:46] Unknown:

No. I have no fucking clue. Top 10. No.  

[01:39:50] Rich Chelson:

How about top 10?  

[01:39:51] Unknown:

Nope. I couldn't tell you any of the artists. Anybody  

[01:39:55] Rich Chelson:

that's fucking in the I mean, I could probably look up and go, hey. I've heard of that person. I've heard of that person. But   you know?  

[01:40:03] Unknown:

No. I I I regress   on iHeartRadio   to the a EVs.  

[01:40:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   I I personally   my my listening   I've got I listen to to Spotify, and it is just   I've got a playlist of, I think, about 700 songs now that I have I've heard and I've kinda liked. Scott, hey. Yeah. It's got a good beat, and I'll add it to this particular list. It's called my Sound Ham list.   And   it's got a little bit of anything and everything   in there. I mean, I've got some I've got some some French songs on there. I've got I think I've got an Italian song on there. I've got some a little bit of Eminem. I've got some eighties   retro. I've got some   I think I've got I think I've got a whole album with Dorothy on there.  

But, you know, I've just got this whole just it's   a group of songs that I like, and my wife will I'll play it be playing it, and my wife will go, I don't know anybody on here. And I was like, yeah. I know, but it's got good music.   But, again, that's the whole fracturing.   And once   Netflix came on board,   then the movies and television   started to pop culture section started to fracture also.   And so now Yeah. You know, what's considered a hit a hit show may have a million listens or a million views.   And I'm like,   I think roots,   at the top of it,   when it first, when it was playing, I think it, it was one of the big first phenomenons that captured the whole the whole US.  

I think it had as many viewers as the Super Bowl did.   Back when the Super Bowl was really popular.   Yeah.   I mean, you've got got the Oscars are, you know, barely scraping a million viewers from time to time,   and they're talking about how they're in the dumps.   But at the same time, they're   it's things have gotten so fractured that an AI is just gonna make that even worse.   Because pretty soon, we're gonna have we're not gonna we're gonna have songs that we only are the only people who've ever heard. We've got we're gonna have movies that all we're the only people who've ever watched.  

[01:42:18] Duuude-Ron :

I believe that.  

[01:42:20] Rich Chelson:

And so, yeah, we're going to slowly be   so fractured that we're going to have very little connections. And I'm I mean, that's one reason why I kinda wanna push to, to model collapse on on AI.  

[01:42:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Good luck with that.  

[01:42:36] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. It's well, it's   I think that's why my site has all of a sudden started getting   a 150,   200 visitors.   I haven't been able to pin down who's hitting it, but I think it's a bunch of AI bots.   Actually, I know a lot of them are AI bots because I used I I was playing around with the forum   for a little bit, and I had to get rid of it because it was crashing my whole site.   Because there were so many bots. Bots are actually going out looking for forms because that's the last place they know that they have people actually talking.   And so they're   trying to feed those those form entries into   the model   so they have some fresh some fresh information.  



[01:43:22] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:43:23] Rich Chelson:

And so, yeah, they've got, bots where   well, the hell. I've taken it down, and I'm still getting   shit tons of traffic over to, relaxbell.com   forward slash forms,   and it's not even there no more.  

[01:43:37] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[01:43:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   They're just, like, hell. Go go go go go go with this, like, son of a gun, man. I mean, there's a couple times where it's   there for a while, I was   my site was going down for   for for hours at a time, and I was like, I've hold up the notes gator going, dude, what what the hell is going on here? He's like, you got a   you gotta pull it up on your site? I was like, yeah. Well, it's probably worth locking the whole, the whole database up.   And it's so many so many bots pounding my damn   my damn   alarm site that it was, yeah, it was locked in the database.   The database could deep up. So I was like, alright. Well   information to Yeah. They want to steal all the all the, the   the conversations, which there was no conversations on there. I was I was still just kinda messing around with it to see if I could get it to   see if I could get it to gamify the way I wanted to gamify to keep people talking.  

Right.   And,   and   so it it was just and it was a, you know, a level c   project, so I wouldn't even you know? It was just whenever I was really bored and didn't have anything to do, I'd be like, alright. I'll fiddle around. I'm here.   But it's yeah. It's   a after after about   a month of my site going down for for hours at a time, I was just like   and finally found out that it was the that it was, the forms being   that was the root. I ripped it out. I mean, I still get shut. My side will still go down for a while. And what I found I have to basically do is go in and just   repair and optimize the database about about twice a week now.  



[01:45:20] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:45:22] Rich Chelson:

But,   but, yeah, I'm   I'm it is, it's it's got to be,   the the,   AI is is they're they're working hard. They're trying to make they're trying like hell to, to not have bottle collapse, but   everybody's using everybody's using AI   to, to be lazy because us humans inherently are lazy when it comes   to creative things. If somebody can find a way to do   something creatively   and not have to put much energy into it,   you get the, the the schlock reels that are on YouTube nowadays, where it's everybody all sitting there talking with the same type of voice and talking about this thing. And I and let's break down into this, and it just it's, like, almost as bad as clickbait   articles that just randomly generate as you as you click next.  



[01:46:14] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But you see, the thing is is that this has been going on since the beginning of the Internet.   I mean, once once once things started going on the Internet   I mean, even though it was an AI or large language model, however you wanna   put it,  

[01:46:32] Rich Chelson:

people have been looking for the easy way out since. Oh, no. Everybody always that that's what that's what I mean. Everybody looks for the easy way out. That's   what I mean is that it's you know,   you have people oh, well, hell. I mean,   before AI became real popular,   it it was let's steal everybody else's videos that they worked on. Put it up to turn it around backwards so that you don't get a, a copyright strike   and post it up as your own so you get a little bit of money off of it. It's like  

[01:47:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's I mean,   see, that's the thing. It's I mean,   this   is, I mean, this is what   That's what what people do. Everything to do. I mean,   the thing is it's not even us that's allowed it. It's just  

[01:47:19] Rich Chelson:

this is just what happens. Yeah. That's what, what, like, YouTube has done in means of of   encouraging,   you know,   schlock.   That's good good way to put it. Just the the slop of of   of laziness to come out.   Yeah. But you know what? It still brings revenue. It still brings Oh, no. It does. It brings a lot of revenue in because, I mean, that I mean, it I mean, you know, it's   fine, but it's you know? I make it but I make it a habit. I try to make it a habit. Sometimes I'll I'll find myself not doing it, but whenever I realize I'm watching some that's got either an AI voice,   AI narrator or whatever,   I'm making a habit to downvote   it these days.  

Okay. If I realize it's it's AI, I'm I voice it. That's like, yeah. This is AI shit. This is AI slop. This is crap.   You know? I'm I'm turning into the YouTube YouTube troll.   So   Yeah.   You know?  

[01:48:19] Duuude-Ron :

You're like the old guy. Get off my fucking lawn except Get off my lawn.   So so the truth comes out.  

[01:48:28] Rich Chelson:

Yes. Get off my YouTube.   So   and I and that's   and that's a   that's a sad part of it because, I mean, one, like like we're saying, we kids these days. I mean, heck, kids don't even know how to be socialized anymore.   I mean, that's the reason why we had SOC ops.   Was this forced socialization   is how do you you got you shove the boys in with the, you know, in with the girls and you take and they have to figure out how to dance with each other.   And they probably figured out, oh, wait a minute. Girl don't bite you. You know? I thought they did. They were mean horrible. Yeah. You like them. They were kinda cool looking. The you know? They they got stuff to jiggle when they run. It's kinda cool to watch them. You know? But   you don't, you know, it's like you don't talk to them. You know? You're gonna get, they're they're gonna squash you. It was like, no.  

Girls don't hurt you. They're just as scared of you as is you are of them.   Then you get to college, and then they then they hurt you.  

[01:49:34] Duuude-Ron :

But the thing is that's never gonna go back to that ever.  

[01:49:40] Rich Chelson:

No. It's a I mean, as as a whole, you're right. It's not. But I bet there are going to be well, there's already   parents,   in schools who have decided   as a whole,   as a class, we're not   we're   not giving our kids   any type of phone   until they are 16.   And, I mean, Texas is banned phone, so now all kids are basically without phones, which is good.   Right.   But  

[01:50:12] Duuude-Ron :

But still, when they're 16, mommy and daddy's gonna buy them a phone and a car.  

[01:50:17] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. That's the same time. At 16, I think they're gonna be at least a little bit   more   ready to handle   social media. Now I don't think entirely. I think they need to wait until 18, personally, but   sixteen's   a a   a good compromise.  

[01:50:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I I mean I mean, I understand what you're saying,   and and, yes, I can get behind it. But  

[01:50:44] Rich Chelson:

Is it realistic?   No.  

[01:50:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That I mean, that's this whole thing, dude. I mean, I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to argue with you about it. I'm just I'm just trying to look at it from a from a, you know, realistic point of view. I'm just I mean, there's parents that are will fight  

[01:51:03] Rich Chelson:

about no. Their my kid has to have a phone. It's like, no. No. But just because you're addicted to your your device   doesn't mean you need   to get your kid addicted to it. Yeah.   You don't have to That's the that's the whole point of it, but they but they no. One of the people one of the other emergency.   Well, when we were in high school, we didn't have phones.   What?   See, what'd you do?   Someone rang into a phone. Someone drove a phone. Someone got there's a phone close by there's a phone within, you know, an eighth of a mile.  

[01:51:38] Duuude-Ron :

Right?  

[01:51:39] Rich Chelson:

If you got hurt on the at the school, guess what? School called your parents.   Yep. You got hurt at work. Guess what? There's phones at work.   You got hurt on Main Street. Well, there's plenty of businesses on Main Street that would go you   could use a phone on.  

[01:51:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   But  

[01:51:58] Rich Chelson:

that's not the way people look at it. No. They and I'm I'm and I'm that way myself. I whenever my kids were   growing up, they had that same line of thought. What if there's an emergency or whatever?   And it's   finally got to the point where I got off of my phone addiction,   if you wanna call it an addiction. I   because, you know, I don't believe there's actual an actual addiction, but everybody understands the word. Right. Right.   So   and that was the reason why I wanted the kids on there so that I can have so I can enjoy my addiction, and and the kids, you know, were pacified. Oh, scream. Yeah. Look at that. You gotta watch look whatever you want.   And it was to their detriment.  

Right.  

[01:52:43] Unknown:

Without   without a doubt.  

[01:52:46] Rich Chelson:

And that's, that's a regret I have. I I really do wish I had said no. No telephones for the kids until they're until they're at least 16.   But that's a, you know, hindsight's twenty twenty type of thing. And so I can beat myself up or I could just accept the fact that at that moment, I thought that was a good idea, and now I know better.  

[01:53:07] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:53:08] Rich Chelson:

And so now I get to harp on on Alexis and Max and go, hey.   Hoping does not get a telephone.   Didn't get a cell phone until she's 16. And   Yeah. We'll see how that works. Yeah. Well, Alexis is is it still addicted to her phone. So  

[01:53:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And that's   and that's normal.   Young kids,   you know,   even into their   late teens, early twenties, mid twenties, thirties,   I mean, they are highly addicted to their phones.   Yeah. Oh my god. If if you took their phone,   they would literally   have a meltdown.   They would need a therapist  

[01:53:46] Rich Chelson:

to get through the day. They don't know how to handle themselves. It's like, what I gotta my but my my well, no. No. You don't need it. You want it because it it gives you a nice supply of serotonin, dopamine, and oxytocin.   It's a a whole bunch of really good, feel good, chemicals running through your system every time you're looking at your screen.   Right. But you actually will feel better when you let when you let those drain out. Yeah. You you feel shitty   because you don't have the same levels that you're used to.   But eventually, when you let those, let those levels   die down   oh, thank you for finally stopping. Jesus Christ, dude. I thought you were gonna keep pulling out in front of me.  

But, I'm sorry. This guy just completely blew my line of thought. But, anyhow, so, you know,   when but when you finally   do something, well, it naturally would cause some serotonin, dopamine, oxytocin release.   Like, you find a girlfriend.   Oh my god. It feels it's it's even 10 times more intense than it was with the phone.   The problem is the phone   does it continuously  

[01:54:55] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:54:56] Rich Chelson:

Instead of having these little peaks and valleys.   That's why I keep sell saying it's like   our biggest tool   and biggest gift   we have as a human   is boredom.   Allow ourselves to get bored from time to time and   great things happen.   Now granted, sometimes we get ourselves into trouble when we get bored, but, you know  

[01:55:20] Duuude-Ron :

That is true. This is true.  

[01:55:23] Rich Chelson:

But but at the same time, when we're bored, that's that's   when brain inventions and great ideas come about.  

[01:55:32] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. As long as you don't get in trouble.  

[01:55:35] Rich Chelson:

As long as you don't get in trouble. Yeah. Of course. What is it? Warning people never make history?  

[01:55:41] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yes. Yeah. No. It just no. No. I get you, man. I get you, but I just   I don't know. I I don't   I don't see things going that way.  

[01:55:53] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean, I don't either.   Again, because   because we are   so   I you   we're not lazy. We're just   we are   we are designed   to find the easy route.   If we can throw as much stuff into our habit center   and not think about stuff,   we're our main things we're doing better.   And back in, you know, back in the day, that was that was true.   Back when we were, you know, rocking with clubs and, you know, walking Betty on the head with, with it so we could drag her off to our cave,   You know? That was   what would be   The cell phone of the day. Right? Yeah. That was the cell phone of the day. It was like, yeah. Yeah. I got my car. Oh, come on. You know? And so, you know, we would do that's what we would   we were   we needed to have   the instances of let's go into the habit center of the brain.  

So because that was so much lower energy because we didn't know when our next meal was coming.   Because it took so much more energy   to fire up the the main thinking part of our of our brain,   you   know,   that   we don't wanna we don't wanna   utilize that unless we absolutely have to.   So   but nowadays, that's not that doesn't serve us.   And so many people go through their life   with unintentional   thoughts.   And I mean, that's kinda what my what,   what my kids are going through these days   is a lot of unintentional thoughts have caused some unintentional   consequences and   and that we're you know, it's it's   it's a it's a hard go.  



[01:57:49] Unknown:

Yeah.   Oh, hey, dude.   Brian. Yo.  

[01:57:54] Duuude-Ron :

Before I forget,   did you look at   the title for last week's episode?   I I did, but I can't remember what it was. Let me see if I can pull it back up.  

[01:58:06] Rich Chelson:

The Booger Bill Brigade. Yeah. The Booger Bill Brigade. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:58:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I   that was one of the titles that,   that, came up from   AI when I put the transcript.   Yeah. I saw that one. I'm like, yeah. That's it. Okay. Well, that that should idle. So Yeah. I was like I was like, hell, yeah. That's cool.  

[01:58:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I thought that was pretty good myself.  

[01:58:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So   yeah. I, yeah, I didn't mean change subject. I just I No. No. You're good. Earlier earlier when you jumped out of the truck,   I I mean, just right after you   got quiet and was doing your thing, it's like, oh, yeah, dude. And so I told dude about it, and it's like, I have to remember to tell Pete, and I just remembered.  

[01:58:56] Unknown:

And guess what? I already forgot.  

[01:59:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. We are just a mess.  

[01:59:05] Unknown:

Well, as you said before, ate up from the floor up.   Yep. High drag, low speed.  

[01:59:12] Rich Chelson:

High drag, low speed.   Yeah. So are you ready for, you ready for this little cold blast that's coming in there, Rich?   What's that? You got your tickets to Belize?  

[01:59:25] Duuude-Ron :

Not quite yet, but I'm very seriously thinking about it.  

[01:59:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because they're saying they're saying all the way down to Southern I   max,   max velocity was actually saying   chances of freezing weather all the way down to Southern Mississippi. And I'm like, holy shit. So that's that's that that, that video I sent to you.  

[01:59:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I I watched it, and I looked at the weather. And, yeah,   Monday morning or Monday night and Tuesday morning is supposed to be down to 37 degrees.  

[01:59:56] Rich Chelson:

Yay.  

[01:59:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Stop that.   Yeah. I told dude while he was at that, yeah, I'm probably I'm probably not gonna get out the house too much, if at all. It's time to throw Bella into bed with you and snuggle with that butt. No.  

[02:00:11] Rich Chelson:

Yes.   Oh, she would be a good bed warmer for you. No. I'm good. I swear. No. She she would do great for you. No. And, dude, I can't I can't sleep when it's warm.  

[02:00:23] Duuude-Ron :

I've got to be cold.  

[02:00:25] Rich Chelson:

You Says the guy who bitches about the cold.   Yes.   Yes. I know.   I know. I bitch about the cold, but I've got to be I've got to be No. I understand. I I understand that one completely. I I I like being under my covers.  

[02:00:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, I I love being under my covers now.  

[02:00:45] Unknown:

You know, and so do I,   but my feet   have to be out from underneath the covers.   Absolutely. At least   at least one,   but it's usually both.  

[02:01:00] Duuude-Ron :

Now see with me, I I I have to be totally under my covers,   but but the room has to be chilly, and I have to have a fan on me.  

[02:01:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Same here. I I have to feel a fan on my face.  

[02:01:13] Rich Chelson:

No. No. I can't. No.   I'm not I'm one of those that's not a fan person.  

[02:01:20] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I am.   I wouldn't I'll wake I'll wake up in the middle of the night sweating.  

[02:01:25] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I'll wake up sweating from time to time, but,   I mean, I'll have a ceiling fan on, but I've   little box fan that blows directly on my face. No. I can't do that.   I used to, but, no, not anymore.  

[02:01:39] Duuude-Ron :

I sleep like a baby when I do that. Well, I think I do, and then I wake up and, yeah, my body yells at me every morning.  

[02:01:49] Rich Chelson:

You slept in one place for eight hours straight. What you doing for?  

[02:01:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You know, there's   in fact, this last week, there's been one or two nights where   I pulled the sheets down, crawled into bed, threw them over me.   And when I got up the next morning,   that's the only part that was messed up   because,   I didn't move.   You know, I didn't toss and turn or nothing. I've Right. Passed out right there, and I didn't move anything.  

[02:02:20] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I'm I'm a I'm a flip flopper. I'm I'm on one side. I'm on the other side. I'm gonna go on the other side.   I'm I'm gonna answer my pants when I'm sleeping.  

[02:02:31] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, shoot. Me? Normally, I normally, I,   I flip once,   and then I flip back to the other side, and that's where I stay normally. Right.   Normal.   Yeah.   I'm on one flip, dude.   So, dude, let me guess. You probably sleep on your back.  

[02:02:52] Unknown:

No. I cannot. Well, I don't know when I'm asleep.   I could be on my back as I have not a fucking clue. You sleep  

[02:03:01] Duuude-Ron :

do do do do you sleep on your head?  

[02:03:05] Unknown:

No. My side.   Fat sleeper?  

[02:03:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Same here.  

[02:03:09] Unknown:

Used to be a belly sleeper, and you're all good.  

[02:03:12] Duuude-Ron :

Till I got a bed. Fucking right. My belly too big for that.  

[02:03:18] Unknown:

Well,   I would always be a belly sleeper   until I got this fucking machine,   and now I'm a side sleeper.  

[02:03:27] Rich Chelson:

And I with my with my feet sticking out of the sheets. Yeah. No. You gotta have your feet hanging out. But unless my feet unless it's really, really cold, then if I if I'm then my feet get real cold, then I've got my blankets tucked underneath my feet.   Well, that's what I have the,  

[02:03:45] Unknown:

the,   mattress heater for.  

[02:03:48] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   you cheater.  

[02:03:51] Unknown:

If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. If you get caught, you ain't trying hard enough.  

[02:03:56] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But now that's I mean, that I I've always slept with a with a foot hanging out too. So that's what I use to regulate the, my my body temperature with is,   which just goes to show that the   the the whole analogy of   80% you know, you lose 90% of your body heat through your head.   Well, yeah. Because your head's not covered.   Right. You know, if you you walk around and you had your head covered and your gloves up, you know where you'd lose 90% of your body heat from?   Your hands.   Because they're not fucking covered.   You lose lose 90% of your body heat off your feet if your feet weren't covered. So, you know, again,   it's   it's always been kind of a fallacy of a, you know, of a,   of a quote, unquote fact. You know? You lose 80% of 90% of your body heat through your head. Well, yeah, because you ain't got a hat on.  

That rear head wouldn't know as well as what   heat. But, yeah, that's why   I stick a foot out. That's,   you know, to regulate my body heat so I don't get too hot,   but it's gotta be freaking cold in the in the room.   Yeah. And then I'll I'll try to get a nice heavy blanket. I like my head I like my blankets heavy.   Yep. Wanna feel room set laying on me.  

[02:05:14] Unknown:

Yep. So you're gonna have the room at 40 degrees   just so you can have the thick blankets on   to sleep warm.  

[02:05:23] Unknown:

Yep. Yep.  

[02:05:24] Rich Chelson:

That makes every fucking sense in the world. Doesn't it, though? Because, you know, it's easier to cool off than it is to stay hot.  

[02:05:33] Duuude-Ron :

Ain't that the truth?  

[02:05:36] Rich Chelson:

Because, I mean, if you if you end up getting way too hot, which I'm getting wonder if maybe I've got something up   hormonally because, man, I have had instances   of just weird   random bits of sweating. I don't know if I'm going through the change or what, but I don't know if guys have a change or not. But   there've been times where I was, like, driving along, and all of a sudden, I'll start sweating. I'm like, going, son of a bitch. What the hell is going on here?   This  

[02:06:02] Unknown:

so so, yeah, you're going through menopause, so you need to go get your mangyna pads and,   you know, go get a box of those and   just go on through your day.  

[02:06:14] Rich Chelson:

I got the manopause for the manosphere.  

[02:06:17] Duuude-Ron :

You might have something wrong with your thyroid, dude. You might need to get just Absolutely.   You can get that checked out   because   because your thyroid   and I know because I got   thyroid problems.  

[02:06:32] Unknown:

You know? It it That's what regulates your,   yeah, that's what regulates your body heat.  

[02:06:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Body temperature and all like that and and stuff. Okay.   You might   It wouldn't hurt to go   get looked at and, just see.   And it's a simple test.  

[02:06:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, that's   the the business has just gotten her,   her initial,   got   met up with her,   her doctor for the first time. Or she's trying to trying to pick a doctor,   and,   doctor that, she chose, first thing that she's like, alright. Well, we're gonna go ahead and see get,   figure out where you're at   physically, so we're gonna have to run some blood panels on you.   Damn. A lot of blood panels, but run some blood get some draw some blood so we can see what's going on,   which I mean, she hates needles, so she's, like, going, son of a bitch. So we got the got blood drawn and all done, and I'm just waiting to see   how much, how much our insurance   you know,   is the insurance gonna cover all that, or is that just going or or, is that gonna have to be part of what I   pay for as a deductible or whatever?  

And so  

[02:07:47] Duuude-Ron :

Well, either way,   you still need to get checked out because Yeah.   You know, your age, dude, I mean, it's it's it's common in men.  

[02:07:56] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:07:57] Duuude-Ron :

For you know? I mean and I'm not saying it as a bad thing. I'm saying it as  

[02:08:02] Rich Chelson:

honest to God. Yeah. Well and I I understand, and I agree. And I and I I really need to just do a good   thirty day just,   and I'm not a big vegan type of fan, but thirty day cleanse   fast and just   reset the system, so to speak, and see where where I'm at after that.  

[02:08:27] Duuude-Ron :

But I would  

[02:08:28] Rich Chelson:

I would I gotta get a juicer to be able to do that.   Because your thyroid Oh, yeah. I'm I'm playing on it.  

[02:08:35] Duuude-Ron :

Your thyroid,   believe it or not, runs a lot of shit in your system.  

[02:08:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:08:41] Duuude-Ron :

It's,   you know, a you know, whether it's   a, you know,   good change or good running or bad running, there it can explain quite a bit.   Yeah. That's why I take thyroid medicine every every day.  

[02:08:57] Rich Chelson:

Right.   That's   that's the part that I'm have I'm struggling with is the fact that I've actually got to the point where I'm at accident accidentally have to start   paying attention to what the health is. So  

[02:09:09] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   It sucks too. Trust me.   It fucking sucks. I ain't gonna lie. General I'm entering the general process  

[02:09:19] Rich Chelson:

phase. So  

[02:09:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, and see, check this out. You know? I mean I mean I mean, yeah, my medication   keeps things in balance. But if you look at just my blood work, I'm healthy as a fucking horse.   Like Right. You know, if I stop taking,   you know, half the pills I take,   then, yeah, I'd be I'd be all over the place.   Right. You know? So   yeah. No. It sucks when you when you hit this point, and it's like it's like, no. Because   oh, I don't know about you, but my mind,   you know, you know, still thinks I'm 30.   Yeah. I'm I'm about 35 or almost 40 now. So my heart, you know, is you know, still thinks I'm 20.  

[02:10:03] Rich Chelson:

My body says, yeah. Fuck you all. Yeah. Fuck you all. You're just, you know You're a 108, man. Just get get get used to it.  

[02:10:11] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.   But, yeah, it's it's it's like, yeah, I sit here and argue with myself because it's like, damn it. I'm not that old.   You know? 56  

[02:10:22] Rich Chelson:

is not that old. Well, you still got a good thirty years left.  

[02:10:26] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   It's like, so ease up on me here.   But, no, my body says, no. We're gonna do this.   I'm like, no.   Oh, yeah. This this has been a fight. I've been arguing   arguing with myself now for   not since,   yeah, I was 50, 49, 50.  

[02:10:47] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:10:48] Duuude-Ron :

You know, shit started happening then.  

[02:10:51] Rich Chelson:

Hours.   One of the big things we're at need to do is one of the big things that we've been need to been needing to do for a long ass time   is is get because we're both me and Jenna both are have hep c. So   Okay. And and so been needing to get that   treated because apparently, they actually have treatments now because back when we first got it, the everything we were told is like, alright. So how do we get,   how do we get this treated? And they were like, well,   you kinda have to wait until you go chronic, and then we use interferon shots,   which from everything I hear sucks because it's basically like you have about three months worth of of the flu.  



[02:11:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow.  

[02:11:34] Rich Chelson:

So a really bad case of flu too.   And now they've got, you know,   treatment,   different treatments so that are that you don't have to worry about. Bill, it goes goes chronic, but at the same time,   it's, you know, they're they're $8,000   a pill.   That's what   Yeah. Yeah. They're they're not, they're not cheap.   And so   that's,   wanted to go ahead and well, I've got,   got insurance. Go ahead and get all this this taken care of and Right. At least get the the hep c taken care of, and, hopefully, it hadn't done too much damage to the old livers.  

[02:12:13] Duuude-Ron :

Well, dude, go to Mexico. It's probably cheaper.   Probably.   I mean, no. Seriously, I because, I just you know, I called I called the company that it did my roof. You know?   Uh-huh. Had them come out to inspect it and stuff like that, and the guy come out   and   found a couple small minor issues.   And so they called me about a week later   and,   you know, sent a guy out with with some help.   And, I was talking with this guy,   and   him and his wife went down to Mexico,   paid $5,400   each   to have weight loss surgery.  

[02:12:55] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh.  

[02:12:56] Duuude-Ron :

He said that same surgery   up here in The States was $18,000  

[02:13:01] Rich Chelson:

up. Oh, I believe it. Yeah.  

[02:13:04] Duuude-Ron :

And he's like he's like, man, that 5,400   gave you the surgery,   an overnight stay in the hospital,   and then a condo for the next couple days to recuperate   on.   Okay. And and and that included food. I'm like, get out of here. He's like, yeah. Seriously.   So yeah. Yeah. He's like he's like, man, that was that was the best money I ever spent.   You know? He, went down   to Tijuana   and had it done.  

[02:13:35] Rich Chelson:

Oh, well. Okay.  

[02:13:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So, I mean and and and he said the hospital   was freaking cleaner than anything he's seen up here in the in The US.   So   I don't know. Something to think about. Maybe  

[02:13:51] Rich Chelson:

maybe Well, that's where my my father-in-law would go get his dent his teeth done. Worked on that. There was he'd go down into into Juarez.  

[02:14:00] Duuude-Ron :

Right. It was a lot cheaper, wasn't it? I'm sure it was.   You know? Because I   you know, think about it. You know? If a pill costs $8,000   up here in Mexico,   it it might only be a thousand or 2.  

[02:14:15] Rich Chelson:

That probably is only about $8.  

[02:14:17] Duuude-Ron :

That could be. I mean, I don't know. It you see, that's the thing. You know? It's funny.   Pills   that cost a lot over here in other countries,   yeah, they're like, yeah, $3 or $8. You know?   Right.   You know, it's like, the only reason why there's so much here is because   they know the insurance companies will pay. Yep.  

[02:14:41] Rich Chelson:

You know? Insurance companies are   are are not insurance companies anymore. They are middlemen for,   for   pharmaceutical companies.  

[02:14:51] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Right.   But, yeah, they'll   they'll freaking take   all the money that you paid into them for the last fifty years.   And, basically,   you've paid all the money you need,   but they keep charging you.   Mhmm. And raising your rates.  

[02:15:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. It's it's No. That's why we're why the company that we're that I work for, they're changing   insurance companies   from from UnitedHealthcare   to, to Blue Cross Blue Shield, which, I mean, basically, is changing it out from one thing to another just   because they raised the prices 49%   from what I'm understanding.  

[02:15:30] Duuude-Ron :

Holy crap. Yeah.   That's crazy.   Blue   Shield probably,   gives them more of a discount.   Probably.  

[02:15:41] Rich Chelson:

So   I'm just hoping we get to keep all the doctors and stuff because we're just barely getting started here.   You should.   I'm I'm sure we will, but at the same time,   who knows?  

[02:15:53] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean I mean, think about it, though. Blue Cross Blue Shield has, been around for a long, long time. Yeah.   And and and for a while back in the day,   they were known as the best.   Right. So   just about every doctor who ever became a doctor   at least takes Blue Cross Blue Shield. They might not take anything else, but they'll take Blue Cross Blue Shield.   Yeah.   You know?   I remember one job I worked years god, years ago, I had Blue Cross Blue Shield, and   I loved it. You know?   Because   whatever I needed,   they paid for it, and I didn't have to worry about anything.   So   yeah. I mean   I mean, yeah. Yeah. It's always good to be cautious, but   I wouldn't I wouldn't worry too much about it.  



[02:16:45] Rich Chelson:

I'm I'm I mean, I'm not staying up all night going, oh, shit. We just got our just just found Janet a doctor and we'll tell her to do.  

[02:16:53] Duuude-Ron :

Well, just that's the thing. Ask them. They'll tell you. They're like, oh, yeah.   All we gotta do is change your name.  

[02:17:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So I don't even know when the actual new, new insurance kicks in. We're still   under surest.   So  

[02:17:09] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[02:17:11] Rich Chelson:

For the time being, at least.  

[02:17:13] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, did you hear about Obamacare?  

[02:17:16] Rich Chelson:

What? That it's gone gone up?  

[02:17:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:17:19] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because, well, that's the thing that they're fighting for. The the Democrats are fighting for is   they're wanting the subsidies for Obamacare to continue.   Yeah. But because the Obamacare is allowing,   you know, legals to have have health insurance.  

[02:17:37] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:17:38] Rich Chelson:

And it's not like it worked. I mean, or did it was affordable anyhow. Because like I said, I've there's times I've gone whenever I was going on there to look, see what type   insurance I could get. It was, you know, 1,500   to $2,000,   sometimes even $3,000   a month   for me and Jenna.   Right. And that's just the two of us. And it's like, son of a bucket. Yeah. Like, I don't even make $3,000   you know, I barely make $3,000 a month.   Right. Depending on which company I was working for. There was times I wasn't even making $3,000   a month.  



[02:18:11] Unknown:

Yeah.   No. It's   you know, they  

[02:18:15] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know.   Basically,   they just need to stop worrying about it because   until they   I mean, I don't know. There's   I doubt if if The US will ever see full blown   paid for health care.  

[02:18:31] Rich Chelson:

Single player health care? God. I hope not because, hell, I don't care to have my health care look like,   look like   Canada or or Great Britain.   Right.   I mean, right now, Great Britain,   with all their with all their immigrants, they I just they have.   They also licenses have got lines,   you know, going out a quarter mile long sometimes.  

[02:18:56] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. It's just well, and   the freaking only reason why we got   freaking Obamacare is because   he   he wanted to make everyone have health care.   That's just how it was.  

[02:19:12] Rich Chelson:

He thought it would be viable. If he could force everyone to have to have health care, then that would become viable. And it's like, well, no.   All you're doing is you're just patting the pox to the insurance companies.   Yep. Now if he had gone off and had opened it up to where   insurance companies in California   could, could operate   in in Florida   and   allow that intermingling.   Yeah. I think you probably lower the prices tremendously.   Right.   But right now, now since,   Texas,   Texas insurance   has to operate within Texas, and Oklahoma has to operate within Oklahoma, and they've got their own restrictions and and and stuff like that. And   so they they all got these little separate, kingdoms   hammered out. But yeah. Yeah. It's it'd be better if   they were just to bust up the lines, get rid of the regulation that, you know,   California's,   insurance can only operate in California and start going numb. We you know, who's got the best deal for what they've   for,   for the price   or best service for the, for the price.  

And a lot of them start working that way, and a lot of the, you know, I think even Blue Cross Blue Shield would have to start decreasing the price of some.  

[02:20:40] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I know. And and, well, it's the same thing with car insurance.   Car insurance, yeah, you've got different companies across different states,   but each state has their own set of rules. There's no one set of rules.   And this is why   in some states, you know, it doesn't matter which company you have. You're gonna pay one price in one state, one price in another state In another. Because the rules are different.   Yep. Exactly.   And and if they would just   basically   make the rules the same for everyone   across the country,   and car insurance companies would,   the price would drop   dramatically  

[02:21:25] Rich Chelson:

because I actually have competition.   Through competition. Right.  

[02:21:29] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. No. No. I I agree with that.   Oh, I found out   my, mortgage lender  

[02:21:37] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh.  

[02:21:38] Duuude-Ron :

Has been bought out by Rocket Mortgage.  

[02:21:41] Rich Chelson:

Hey. Rocket Mortgage.  

[02:21:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   I don't know I don't know how well I like that. But  

[02:21:48] Rich Chelson:

Well, I, mine's been my my   mortgage has been sold to three different companies. Now we're I'm now sitting with PHH.   So This is this is the second time since I bought the house last August.   Right.  

[02:22:04] Duuude-Ron :

And and a dude from Rocket Mortgage called me to talk about   maybe refinancing and everything, getting a lower rate. And, you know, he, you know, he he asked me if I'd heard about, you know, my   mortgage lender being bought out by Rocket Mortgage. I said, yeah.   I said, let me ask you a question.   What's the chance of y'all getting bought out?   He was kind of taken aback. I'm like, dude, look at it this way.   You know? I was I was pushed off on on onto this   new mortgage lender, and then y'all bought them out. So   I I'm like I'm like, it's not out of the realm of possibility.  

And he's like, well, no. You're not. You you, you know, you're not wrong, he says, but   we are   he said, I think Rocket Mortgage is, like, the third.  

[02:22:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They're well, it's owned by Intuit.  

[02:22:59] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But they're they're in, like, the top three of mortgage lenders. Yeah. The the Intuit's  

[02:23:05] Rich Chelson:

gone from being a   being a a software company to a bank.  

[02:23:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And so, I mean, I I mean, I asked him. It's like it's like, you know, explain to me how you can sit here and say, oh, we're not gonna get bought out because   no. I'm sorry. Anybody can be bought out. Yeah.   And, you know, it's just a matter of price tag. He's like he's like, well, he's like, okay. I get you.   He says, but we are ranked number three, and we keep buying more and more companies. And and  

[02:23:40] Rich Chelson:

we're we're put Which is a problem because that means they eventually be will become overleveraged.  

[02:23:46] Duuude-Ron :

Well yeah.   But we'll see.   Yeah.   You know, we'll see later on down the line.   But so yeah.   And I'm like I'm like,   will I have to change anything? He's like, nope. You ain't gonna have   to change anything. The only thing that'll change is is the name.   Okay.   We'll see.   Dude was a nice guy. You know? Right. He was real nice and and everything like that.   He answered my questions, and   he understood why I was asking the questions I was asking.   And I'm like and, you know, I'm sitting here is it, you know, took me a couple months to get get used to being   or dealing with a a company called Mr. Cooper.  



[02:24:34] Unknown:

Cooper.  

[02:24:35] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Mr. Cooper Mortgage.  

[02:24:39] Duuude-Ron :

I'm sorry. When when I found   out that that was my new mortgage company, I was I was very uneasy about that.   Right. That's a weird ass name to   be dealing with. You know?   And then   and then I, you know, heard about Rocket Mortgage, and I'm like, yeah. Okay.   I'll just become a number then,   but we'll see.   Yep.   Dude, did you fall asleep on us?   Nope.   Okay. You about to?   Nope.   Okay.   Did you take your drugs?  

[02:25:15] Rich Chelson:

Yep. I've already taken them. Got fifteen minutes. So yeah. I'm gonna say.  

[02:25:21] Duuude-Ron :

I'm just checking.   Yeah.   Dude is being awful quiet over there.  

[02:25:29] Unknown:

I'm the shadow. I know.   Just listening in.  

[02:25:34] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. And it normally normally, I hear a noise in the background or something from dude, and I wasn't hearing nothing. I was like, yeah. I better check on him.   You  

[02:25:45] Rich Chelson:

know? You know? They usually usually holler about that. Hey. What's up are you watching?  

[02:25:50] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. Normally normally, I hear something.   You know? So that's why I was like, yeah. Let's see if he's still kicking.  

[02:25:59] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.   Just listen to y'all. Ramble on. Ramble. Ramble. Ramble.  

[02:26:04] Rich Chelson:

So   but   now it doesn't seem to be what you guys  

[02:26:10] Unknown:

were rambling on about. No. No. Talk about the talk about mortgages  

[02:26:14] Rich Chelson:

and insurance and   finances   and   the fall of the Western society.  

[02:26:22] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:26:23] Rich Chelson:

Pretty much. Because I won't get off my lawn.  

[02:26:30] Unknown:

Exactly.  

[02:26:32] Duuude-Ron :

Damn it. They need to get off Brian's lawn.  

[02:26:36] Rich Chelson:

Exactly. Yeah. Precisely. Yeah. Besides, most lawns got stickers in it. You don't wanna be standing around there barefooted.  

[02:26:42] Unknown:

That's right.  

[02:26:44] Duuude-Ron :

Those hurt.  

[02:26:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They do.  

[02:26:47] Duuude-Ron :

They snooped just a little bit.  

[02:26:50] Unknown:

Well, hopefully, with,   them do it rocking mortgage that you can   possibly refinance and definitely get a lower rate, that'd be good.  

[02:26:59] Duuude-Ron :

Well, the guy was kinda promising, but   but my debt to income ratio was   a little too high, he said, right now. So   Oh, okay.   Maybe later on because he was talking like he could get me down to $5.09   or $5.08, which that would be great.   Yeah.   But   I need to work on   my debt to income ratio.   Once I do that, then   then who knows? Maybe I can get it down to, like, $5.02.   That'd be really freaking nice.  

[02:27:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It would.  

[02:27:34] Duuude-Ron :

Really freaking nice. Plus plus I would have more   equity in the house.  

[02:27:40] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:27:41] Unknown:

So by then. But Three hours?  

[02:27:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They're estimating   the value of my house at $1.45,   and that's that's just estimated.   So   Right. Uh-huh.   I can't complain.   That's not even counting the new roof I have.  

[02:28:00] Unknown:

Uh-huh.   So,   yeah,   that will probably go up.   Yep.  

[02:28:07] Unknown:

So we'll see. I got lucky I got lucky when I refinance   this house, and   my interest rate is three nine.  

[02:28:17] Duuude-Ron :

I hope to have that one day.  

[02:28:19] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:28:21] Duuude-Ron :

But   if not, I'll be happy with five or just under.  

[02:28:27] Unknown:

Yeah.   Because you're what? Paying   7 and 3 quarter?  

[02:28:32] Duuude-Ron :

No. 6 and 3 quarter.  

[02:28:34] Unknown:

June?  

[02:28:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I mean, it's not terrible, but,   you know, free 99 is   is is my price.  

[02:28:44] Unknown:

Yeah.   So   I think each and every one of us can afford that. Yep. I can barely I can barely afford it.  

[02:28:52] Duuude-Ron :

No.   What is it? The 99 get you? Yeah. Yeah. That 99 get you.   So Yeah.   Yeah. That 99 got me for years also.  

[02:29:07] Rich Chelson:

So but anyhow, I guess go ahead.  

[02:29:11] Unknown:

That's why I always carry a dollar in your pocket everywhere.  

[02:29:14] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Keep it all folded up in your   in your little in your little watch pocket. So  

[02:29:22] Duuude-Ron :

It'd be the cleanest dollar ever because I'd always whoosh it. Well, yeah.  

[02:29:29] Rich Chelson:

Laundered money.  

[02:29:31] Unknown:

I got it.  

[02:29:33] Rich Chelson:

So but, anyhow, so guys, I guess we need to go ahead and start getting her   getting this ship all lined up and ready to dock because it we've got about ten minutes left. And   wanna say thanks to everybody coming into the coming on to the show and sit down listening. If you're here live, some great I'm so glad you came on live.   We, if you have didn't know that you could actually listen to the show live, you can. You just have to have a modern podcast gap. You can grab those over at podcastapps.   That's podcastappswithans.com,   and there you can   find all sorts of different, podcast gaps. You can get, like, podcast guru,   True Fans, Pod Home.  

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And so we do we do these   you we do this so that you can you can have a,   so you could share   and and and express how our express our our our views on on society. But that's the reason why we actually get together   so that you could share these these, not emails, these these episodes out is because we're friends. We just enjoy   being able to talk to each other and have a,   and have a a good time   being a part of each other's life.   And so   while   we do   share   with each other what's going on in our world, and we share with you what's going on in our world. It's because   we have a good time. We enjoy each other's company.  

And that   so a lot of times our conversations are very are not   precocious. They're not they're not   they might be a little on the on the boisterous side, but that's just, you know, how we kinda talk to each other.   And that is a great thing about about friendship, and that's   why we we share this show out with you so that you could share it out with your friends.   So that you have to say, hey.   People are people, and   we just, we we love to, love to have a community   to where we're,   where we are able to see other people that we know   and and have a have a good time at in in doing so.  

So with that, I'm just now meandering. So, Rich, what do you have to say?  

[02:36:09] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, not too much. Just, wanna say thanks to everyone listening, and,   thank you for coming back, and keep coming back and listening.   And, yeah, we we hope you enjoy the the, topics   that we discuss because we never know what we're gonna talk about. So,   you know, if you have any ideas or, you know, would like us to talk about something, hear our views on it, which you might not. But, you know, either way, if you do or you don't, send us an email, [email protected]   or [email protected],   and we'll be glad to talk about your subject.   Yeah. You might like or not like what we say, but, you know, that's   that's a part of being a human.  

You know? It's okay. You know? We don't always have to agree with you, but, you know, if we do, hey. Cool. If not, we're fine with it. We don't care. And the dude always has some words of wisdom somewhere.   But,   yeah, I just I just have to keep dude on his toes, make sure he stays awake for all this because,   yeah, he   he, he,   likes to fall asleep on us. But other than that, no. Thanks.  

[02:37:27] Rich Chelson:

Let's see if I have to get up at 04:00 in the morning.  

[02:37:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's just a week, man.   But   yeah. No. Just thanks for listening. Share this out with your friends, your family, your loved ones.   Like Brian said, with people you hate,   you know,   or you know, it don't matter. Your grandma, your grandpa,   just make sure they're they're okay because we don't filter what we say,   and we don't edit it out. We don't beep it. That's the beauty of podcasting two point o. We don't have to. So Alright. Other than that, that's about all I got. So, yeah, send us an email. Let us know   what you wanna hear, what you like, what you don't like. So, dude, what you got?  



[02:38:10] Unknown:

I have the ultimate statement of the day.   Lay it on. You know how we know how we chase a lot of rabbit holes. Right?  

[02:38:19] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[02:38:20] Unknown:

Through through our conversations.   You know what?   I chased down the rabbit hole so far.   I actually met the rabbit.   His name is Eddie,   and he don't have a fucking clue   as to what is going on  

[02:38:42] Rich Chelson:

either. So sounds like you went off and, you ever seen that movie Donnie Darko?   No.   Now the movie that's got a they got an evil looking rabbit that runs around?   Weird freaking movie. But it's about time travel on top of that, so it just gets even more confusing.   But yeah.  

[02:39:01] Unknown:

But I just thought I'd let you guys know that I actually have met him.   His name's Eddie, and he don't have a fucking clue as to what's going on either.  

[02:39:11] Rich Chelson:

Forget. Well, it it as long as we're all lost.  

[02:39:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. At least we're not alone.  

[02:39:17] Unknown:

That's right. Damn it.  

[02:39:21] Rich Chelson:

So my well, guys,   Rich, Ron, I appreciate y'all coming on. Y'all have a great rest of the rest of the night. Sleep good, and we will see y'all next week. Till then, take care, and   bye. Later.  

[02:39:38] Unknown:

Peace out.  

[02:39:40] Rich Chelson:

Alright, guys. See you then. Alright. Guys. Yep. Bye. See you. Bye. Bye.