Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this episode of Two Grumpy Vets, the hosts dive into a lively discussion about family dynamics, unexpected life changes, and the challenges of parenting adult children. Bryan shares a personal story about his daughter's sudden marriage, which sparks a conversation about family expectations and the complexities of modern relationships. The hosts also touch on the importance of communication and understanding within families, especially when dealing with significant life events.

The conversation takes a humorous turn as the hosts discuss everyday life challenges, from cooking mishaps to the quirks of modern technology. They share anecdotes about dealing with unexpected situations, like air leaks in vehicles and the trials of maintaining a household. The episode wraps up with reflections on societal changes and the importance of adapting to new circumstances, all delivered with the hosts' signature blend of humor and candidness.

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[00:00:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living,   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan Rich and the dude.  

[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:

Mister Bryan.   Hello?  

[00:00:37] Duuude-Ron :

There we are. Now I'm hearing you.  

[00:00:39] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:00:41] Duuude-Ron :

Got too many Bluetooth devices.  

[00:00:44] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   So what's happening with you, dude?  

[00:00:48] Unknown:

Well,   not much. Just   just sitting here just waiting for them to finally kick off on the  

[00:00:56] Duuude-Ron :

on the on the track.   So  

[00:00:59] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   The dude made it in.  

[00:01:05] Unknown:

Yeah. I know the Zoom is open there, Brian. I'm Hey. Freaking get to it. Team and Ally.   Well, I wanna just make sure make sure you do. Do me a favor and text that to me so I don't have to scroll worth of a year's worth of,   things. So as soon as I open it, it's right there.  

[00:01:24] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   I will start sending you a fresh invite.   So  

[00:01:30] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Well, what's going on, bitches?  

[00:01:35] Duuude-Ron :

Not a mush year.   Just yeah. No. I mean well, actually, there is one big thing that has happened here recently that   actually came about on Monday, and we're still and everybody's still really processing it.   My daughter went off and decided to get married.   So we're like, what? Oh, hey. Okay. I knew y'all were kinda talking about it, but I didn't know y'all were talking about it. So   Say that again? Yeah. Yeah. I've got a son-in-law now.   Oh, okay. So I I don't know much about him other than his name is Michael, and his and my daughter's last name is now Mason.   But other than that yeah.  



[00:02:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So so this is not the same guy   that she had a while back? No. No. No. No. No.  

[00:02:23] Duuude-Ron :

She, this guy, she's only known for about six months.  

[00:02:27] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I wish her all the best.  

[00:02:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well  

[00:02:31] Rich Chelson:

I mean, well, now now okay. Okay. Hang on. Hang on.   I gotta be a dad here for a minute.   Oh, yeah. Or an uncle or great uncle, whatever you wanna call him. Whoever.   Okay? But   if she's known him for six months,   why haven't you met him?  

[00:02:50] Duuude-Ron :

Because she had only been broke up with boyfriend and her boyfriend and her baby daddy for about six months.  

[00:02:57] Rich Chelson:

She had what? I I didn't you broke up.  

[00:03:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, I'm out of here. Got five g, but for whatever reason, there's only one tower.   And everybody in the town and and   the and the, frack job and and all the people over at the casino,   apparently all hit in the same damn tower.  

[00:03:17] Rich Chelson:

Oh, they don't have Wi Fi over there for y'all? That's rude.  

[00:03:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. No. No. Not out on the black job.  

[00:03:24] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[00:03:26] Unknown:

So but, anyhow,   let's see.   It would have been  

[00:03:31] Duuude-Ron :

been actually, no. We're coming up on a year.   And, and, her only boyfriend,   the father of my grandchild,   well, she had a week out session and kicked him out.   Yeah.   Well, details of why is still built in a 100%. None of us fully understand why   we have been told everything.   Horrible sensitive information to   I just I   I didn't think he would be the best, the best choice. And I was like, man, I'm saying when when she's told me that, I was like,   well, that kinda should be the indicator that you kinda get to know the dude a little bit before you make a make a big decision like going to bed with him.   Right. But, again   but,   but now this,   this new guy   let's see here. When did he pop his head in?  

Because once Max,   left,   say she was still with Jaden,   staying over Jaden's   during Christmas.   See, it'd been March or May, actually.   Now I'm really too bad hammering all the all the time out.   I think it's been last year. This year.   Okay.   Is   I mean,   well, the bad about March, if I had to guess,   starting to that   she was kinda dating somebody. She was kinda going out and seeing this guy,   and stuff and going out and   and they were they would go to, like, the Emerald Little Theater. They do this. They do that. And then actually, it was going out on   some actual dates, which I was like, oh, well, okay.  

You know? Yeah. That's that's what you wanna do. That's what you wanna do. Cool. Cool. Cool. Right.   And still is having I mean, we used to you we weren't having   almost daily conversations   with her.   And then sometime,   if I had to guess, maybe, like, April,   April, or something like that.   I didn't realize, like, you're from from Rex at all? It's like, oh, no. Hadn't heard of it from me. Hadn't heard from me. Hadn't heard from me. Hadn't heard from me. Usually get weekend   weekend phone calls,   from,   with FaceTime. And so we could sit there and yabber with, with a little bit   and, and,   you know, everything like that, and it kinda basically stopped.  

And I'm just kinda curious, wondering. It's like, well,   I I touched base with her. She oh, well, everything's all good. Blah blah blah blah blah blah.   And then finally and as as we're through,   things were starting   to to click around   that weren't making a whole lot of sense. And let's see if I could pull these up.   I can't remember how you do a search. See here.   And probably gonna be a little tough just because I got   that much. But, hey.   So one day, she kinda talked about made the, made the this comment that she was   helping Michael move. I like, okay. Because he moved out of a out of one place. He was moving to another place,   that was a little bit cheaper   and all that. And so we were like, okay. Well and   and but round around that time is when the conversation started to really drop off.  

And just through little clues and   things like that about around about the   May,   Just kinda was like   so that you know what? Let's say let's go ahead and just ask her. Let's find out what's go what the hell is going on here? And I and I asked her. It's like,   things are not adding up a whole lot.   Did you move in with Michael?   And the fact she finally was like, well, I can't really hide it if you get if you if I was letting that much slip. So yeah. Yeah. I moved in with Michael.   And she tried to blame it on that Jaden said she needed to, start finding a new place and and stuff, and I've kinda poked Jade about it. It's like, really? It's like, no. It's like,   I told her that she has   a good deal here because I'm not making any money off of it. But if you're she was just but one thing I didn't want her to her to do was to just bring random guys into the house all the time because I've got a lot of expensive stuff. I've got guns and tools and things like that, and I just don't need some lander walking through here going, honey, y'all kinda like that and run off with it.  



[00:08:01] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:08:02] Duuude-Ron :

And so she kinda took that as her excuses to from what I've been able to piece together. She kinda took that as her excuse to go, okay. Well, I'm gonna move in with Michael. I wanted to move in with him anyhow, so I'm gonna move in. And, so from there, that was kind of a blow to Jana,   and we decided, you know, after after Max, the whole Max blow up and everything,   I was like, you know what? I'm not going to sit down and get to know   said boyfriend   for a good little while because one,   she struggles to keep a boyfriend for a long while.   And I figured, you know, we'll break the,   we'll we'll   break the the the amount,   down to she had Max. She was she dated Max to or, yep.  

Dated slash lived with Max or Max lived with her, whichever way you wanna look at it, for about two years.   So I was like, alright.   So we'll we'll we'll cut the, cut that in two. So   run her date Michael for a year.   If, at the end of the year, if he, is still hanging around, he she hasn't run him off   or he hasn't done something that she just can't stand, then, you know,   we'll, we'll I'll I'll get to know him.   And so that's one reason why I haven't I I don't know   much of anything about him because it's like, one, I didn't know she was she'd just been talking about   getting married two weeks ago.  

Okay. And and so it's like   so yeah. And then today and then on Monday,   I get a text   next summer   at 07:30 in the morning with pictures of her at home, Michael at the   at,   at court,   getting,   saying, getting, getting married. I was like, oh, son of a gun. So I told Janet,   like, well, I didn't get nothing.   And,   and Janet didn't Janet's   her and Janet have a rather   relationship.   Why?   Don't know. Lexi just decides, you know what? I need the nemesis, and Jan is gonna be the nemesis.   And   a lot of it, I think, has to do with the fact that it's the Bryant side of the family.   Everybody is everybody who's known the Bryants have said that the Bryant women are   absolutely batshit bonkers.  



[00:10:28] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:10:30] Duuude-Ron :

And the stories that I've heard about, like, Jana's   great grandmother and grandmother,   they did not have a healthy relationship at all.   Jana's grandmother and Jana's mom   did not have a healthy relationship at all.   Jana and her mom   wouldn't see each other all that much.   You know? But at the same time, this, the woman also wouldn't after we got married and I was going to take move her out to California,   she was getting private investigators   to try to find something that to get me arrested so I couldn't take her to California. So this is how   batshit crazy this woman was. Right.  

And and stuff. So it was   so it   the   Jan wasn't all that,   all that mentally stable   even before her, her Alzheimer's kicked in.   But but the times that we were able to to get together and stuff, it was we would go to a restaurant. We'd all meet in we'd just kinda meet in a, in a public space, and we'd hang out for a little bit. And there for a long while,   Jaden would go and stay the night or stay a month during the summer or whatever with them and and things like that. And, I mean so they had a really close connection with Jack,   and and Jan had a really close connection with Jaden.  

Lexi, she wanted Lexi to go over about time Lexi was about two and a half, three maybe three years old, which I was still a little on the early side.   And   Lexi   was not   was not having it. She stayed there for maybe   maybe four or five hours and decided she had had enough over there and wanted to go see grandma Penny instead,   which   pissed Jan off to something to no extent. And so after that,   Jaden was still always seen. Lexi wouldn't ever ever able to really go hang out with with Jan because they didn't want, Alexis over there because, well, he she pissed off Jan.   And so that's one reason why Jaden got   but, it got everything   when when Jack passed. But   and so, thankfully, because of that, Lexi was had a place to stay, but it was   but because   somewhere in there and I think I'll I think some of it is probably just   the influence of the story.  

You know?   Mother, daughter not liking each other, she has decided that, hey. I'm not supposed to like my mother either.   And   is anytime Jan has tried to bring the past couple of major events up, like   like her moving out with and not telling us and not even just not telling us, but just   flat out just just lying about it for for several weeks   and and stuff.   And the fact that she is and then, you know, being so secretive   about Michael and stuff   has really   stuck in Janice's crawl.   Right. And and so   anytime Janice tried to question her about it or tried to   kinda get to the end of at the bottom of it, Lexi has kinda come up with these little flippant answers and stuff that really   do nothing more than, that irritate the shit out of Jana. So Right.  

So that's why I don't   that Jana didn't get a, didn't get a picture, and we kinda wanna point to point that to,   well, it's   it's Lexi, you know, trying to trying   to poke with the tiger some more.   For what reason? I don't know. But for whatever but it you've got a reason.   And, but then also when, she posted everything up on Facebook,   boy, I caught hell for my mom.   She's   like, why did y'all not tell me she was having a getting married? And she's like, because you just found out the same time we found out.   What? She didn't you didn't get an invite either? It's like nobody got an invite. Look at the look at the picture closely. You'll see that it's in the courtroom. She was made by a judge,   and it was just her   Michael judge and some probably   the stenographer   as the witness, and that's all it was.  



[00:14:56] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:14:57] Duuude-Ron :

And she's and she was like, well, I can't believe and, I mean, mom was, like, in tears   about it.   So  

[00:15:05] Rich Chelson:

I was, I mean, I was just wondering because I that just you know, that's   that's kind of,   you know, big news.  

[00:15:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Kinda big news. And, I mean, there's the the the,   the callback of, you know,   not being able to,   get my daughter away,   things like that. I mean, there's a   there's a lot of those little,   those little things that, have   crept up. And,   and, yeah, I mean, there's,   through a whole feeling,   but it's I'm a psychologist. I mean,  

[00:15:42] Unknown:

we go over that option so o two, you know, with Max. It's like, hey. Just   go ahead and just,  

[00:15:51] Rich Chelson:

Right. But look at it like this. It saved you in. So I thought it this time.   And I What was y'all?   No. I can hear you now. You   you're breaking up a little bit, but, hey. At least it's it it it saved you a buttload of money.  

[00:16:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:16:09] Rich Chelson:

I mean,   it doesn't help much. I know. But that is one way to look. There we are. Okay.  

[00:16:16] Duuude-Ron :

So   but, anyhow, so what were you saying?  

[00:16:20] Rich Chelson:

I   I said it's it it saved you a buttload of money.  

[00:16:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   You know?   Absolutely.  

[00:16:30] Rich Chelson:

I mean, it's not much it's it's it's not much consolation, but,   you know,   I don't know. It just hey.   People  

[00:16:39] Duuude-Ron :

people gonna do what they gonna do. And Mhmm. Oh, yeah. Whether we like it or not. Yeah. And that's kinda what I've had to tell Dana is when we've been talking about it, it's like, well, I mean,   we neither one of us like to have a hand forced, but I guess she's kinda forced her hand. We have to get to know the guy now whether we wanted to or not. So  

[00:16:59] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to get to know him. That's your choice if you want to.   You know?  

[00:17:06] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean, yeah, we do. If if we no. I don't act absolutely fully have to, but, I mean, at the same time, I would I   I would get the same errors as to how   Jan   and Jack   were as cold to me.   Because when we and Janet got married, I mean, that was   they showed up for the for the wedding   and stuff, but but at the same time, they were not a,   they were not the the,   the chipper,   mother of the bride.  

[00:17:41] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shit. My first marriage, my mother drove up to where I worked and told me, squared dead to my face,   that she wasn't coming to my wedding.  

[00:17:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. My my stepmother   told me that if,   she ended up getting a,   getting an invite, but it was the,   I I did it kind of a chicken style   because   because what that what I did ended up doing was   about, about 02:00 in the morning, I drove over to Sunray   and dropped the, the invite off on the,   on the screen door of the of the house   and just basically saying, hey. We're gonna be over here if you wanna come along and and join in the celebration. If not, okay. Well, then, you know,   you don't have to.   Right.   But because before it when she found out that I was going to get married to Janice, she was like   she was like, no. You're you've   are not allowed to to get married to her. I don't, I don't like her. I don't think she's right for you, and so you're not going to get married to her. I was like, well, I'm sorry, but that's not something you have   power over.  



[00:18:52] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:18:53] Duuude-Ron :

But and she's like, well, I will find some way of stopping that, stopping that wedding if I if you   plan to proceed. And so when we set a time,   I just decided to wait until the very last minute until,   so that she wanted to show up. She could, she could, but it was gonna be a last minute thing, and   she didn't show. Dad did, and my mom did. And   Oh, that was fine. Jane James, Jan's dad, and Jan and   their respective spouses.  

[00:19:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So   No. That's   that's crazy.  

[00:19:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. It's always fun. So   Yeah. I almost kind of wonder, you know, they say your child is always what your child does is gonna be three times worse to you.   Yeah.   And I think this was probably,   that three times worse part   for for   at two o'clock in the morning.   So  

[00:19:53] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, I learned one thing today.  

[00:19:57] Duuude-Ron :

And what was that?  

[00:19:59] Rich Chelson:

Smoking a Chuck roast   is not a good thing.  

[00:20:03] Duuude-Ron :

Really? Why?  

[00:20:05] Rich Chelson:

Not enough fat on it.   Dried out too quick.   Oh. I mean, it's good. Do not get me wrong. I'm gonna eat. I ain't throwing it away. I goddamn tell you ain't throwing it away. Alright.   I'm gonna eat it. Okay? But,   yeah, it it it,   the,   because I did a London broil, and I did a I did a London broil,   and I coated it with a coffee rub, and that actually turned out really fucking good.   Juicy and and and and all like that.   Uh-huh. But the chuck roast,  

[00:20:41] Duuude-Ron :

there just wasn't enough fat on it. I wonder if since there wasn't enough fat on it, I wonder what how that would have worked   if you had taken just it it would have been a lot of work to do it, but taking, like, softened butter.   Put it in, stuffed it into a syringe.   And injected it? And injected it in there. So you had solid butter cores inside the, inside the, the the roast.   So as it melted, you would get that butter fat   in the, in the meat.   Right. Right. So so you do something like a garlic butter or, you know, just kinda mash it and have it infused butter type of thing.  

[00:21:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I could. That's you know, it's it's it's possible.   That   that does sound possible and doable.   I might I might I'm I don't I don't think I have another Chuck roast yet, so I would have to get one another one and try that.   But yeah. Because you see, I didn't I just I just I just marinated them. I didn't inject them. Right.   I will say I will say the   London broil came out really oh god.   Good.  

[00:21:54] Duuude-Ron :

And that just point.  

[00:21:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It did. It did.   So   but,   yeah, I don't know. We'll see.   I might have to try that again.   So, dude,   he has himself muted.  

[00:22:09] Duuude-Ron :

He has muted himself.  

[00:22:12] Rich Chelson:

He's not even listening. Probably fell asleep.  

[00:22:15] Duuude-Ron :

Already?  

[00:22:16] Rich Chelson:

Well, you never know. I mean, this is dude.  

[00:22:21] Duuude-Ron :

He is the whole life of the party.  

[00:22:24] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   But   yeah. No.   Yeah. Brit   I don't know why, but but,   Brit's been wanting to,   play a game with me. You know, video game? Oh, yeah?   And we we tried   because   playing Xbox because I can get Xbox on my laptop.  

[00:22:46] Duuude-Ron :

And  

[00:22:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That wasn't working. We couldn't   find a game we both could play. And then and then tonight,   she had texted me and was like,   well, we could play Diablo on, PS five tonight after the kids go to bed.   And I was like, honey, I got a podcast.   We can do it, you know, after I'm done podcasting.   Yeah. It'd be 10:10 o'clock at night. But Yeah. And which which for her would be eleven.   You know? And Oh, well, that's right. Yeah. She's East Coast now. Yeah. I told her that, and   it was funny.   She was like, I might not be awake. And I said, well, it's okay. We can play tomorrow, sweetheart. It's Yeah. Yeah. It's not a big deal. I mean, we can play tomorrow.   It's good.  



[00:23:31] Duuude-Ron :

But Yep. Friday nights, man. That's Friday night's excitement right there.   Right. Get you some Mountain Dew,   onion, and pork ones, and  

[00:23:42] Rich Chelson:

I've got I've I've got some ginger ale.  

[00:23:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Well, you know, I guess night I guess grandpa.  

[00:23:50] Rich Chelson:

Hey. Ginger ale's good. I just Oh, I agree. Ginger ale  

[00:23:55] Duuude-Ron :

and   ginger beer and   and all those are pretty darn tasty. This dude's walking around the,   location without his hard hat on. He looks like he's probably dressed up like he's probably company man.   He should still have his hard hard hat on. Well, he's supposed to. But if you're a company man, you know what? You do whatever the fuck you want. You're the one that signs its checks.  

[00:24:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, if if if OSHA happened to walk up,   his ass would get rained.  

[00:24:25] Duuude-Ron :

And he'd think he'd probably be able to step up on and go belly to belly with with OSHA.  

[00:24:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I would like I would I would pay money to see that. Most most company man men seem to think that. It's like,  

[00:24:38] Duuude-Ron :

fucking location. I'll do whatever the fuck I fucking want to.  

[00:24:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. I just I just well, I smoked that. I did dishes.  

[00:24:49] Duuude-Ron :

Woo hoo. That is fun and excitement.  

[00:24:52] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. And, rearrange my music, and and   I've got a notebook   filled with my lead sheets for piano.   Oh, oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Well, I was like, oh. Just, Yeah. Things were just kinda thrown everywhere.   I mean, there was no real order to them, so   so I put them in order.   Okay. I mean yeah. It was like yeah. I know. I'm like I'm like the highlight of the year here,   you know, doing so much.   But, I mean, you know, it kept me busy.  

[00:25:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I bet.  

[00:25:30] Rich Chelson:

Believe it or not.   That it did.   Hell,   I think I think I think by the time I got done and sat down in the living room,   it was like,   oh, shit, 04:30, almost five.  

[00:25:43] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow.  

[00:25:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So,   yeah, I was I was actually   I was actually   kinda busy doing stuff today.  

[00:25:53] Duuude-Ron :

Well, look at you being all productive and shit.  

[00:25:57] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[00:26:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'm I'm just I've I've gotten around right now. I've   every time I'm off, I set, I set myself up for I have to have at least one project done in the six days. So  

[00:26:11] Rich Chelson:

Okay. What was your project this week?  

[00:26:15] Duuude-Ron :

This week was I had six phone calls I needed to make.   Okay. So it was at   for for health insurance, one of the big ones was I needed to talk to the Emeril   of rec city records   so I could get my   marriage license or marriage certificate   to prove that Jana is actually my wife.   Why all of a sudden? I have never had any other the   in the past, you know, of course, I mean, last time I had actually a health insurance was   2,007,   2,008.  

[00:26:52] Rich Chelson:

That was that was a day or two ago. Yeah. Yeah. It was Peter. It was 2,200   Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Insurance companies   now   I don't care what people say about them. Insurance companies   Alrighty. Have access   to find any and all records   Oh, yeah. On their people. I mean, fuck. I can go online,   pay, like, $30.40 bucks a month,  

[00:27:17] Duuude-Ron :

and I can ball the  

[00:27:19] Rich Chelson:

I can find the records   on anybody in the world.  

[00:27:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You can do it over what, what is it, whitepages.com   for $5 a a month.  

[00:27:29] Rich Chelson:

Okay. White well, there's   there's there's people finder, white pages. There's Oh, yeah. Hey. And and,   you know,   you can get all of the public records. You know? I know someone might hear this. They'd be like, oh my god. No. I I you know, privacy no.   These are public records,   and a marriage license is a public record. Birth.  

[00:27:52] Duuude-Ron :

Because they have marriage license, death,   divorce decrees.  

[00:27:56] Rich Chelson:

No. Hang on. Hang on. In Missouri,   you cannot   access   a marriage license. You have to call the county   where   you got married in or or the person   got married in,   and you have to  

[00:28:14] Duuude-Ron :

give them money, like, $8, it's cheap. Yeah. It's cheap in Oklahoma in Texas too for for   marriage.  

[00:28:22] Rich Chelson:

But, say, the thing is, though,   you can't find out if,   because, like, what was I needing?   What was I doing? I was doing something,   and I needed   basically to prove that that I had been married.   And   even though oh, for my passport.   Oh. And and   I had to call Missouri.   I mean, I remembered my wife's name.   Okay.  

[00:28:49] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that's good. That's good.  

[00:28:52] Rich Chelson:

Couldn't could not for the life of me remember the day we got married or anything like that.   So so I went and paid 30 or $40,   unlike on People Finder or one of them sites,   and looked up and got all the records, but could not get the marriage records. And then I looked on Missouri.   I had to call the county,   which the lady was real sweet   and gave me the information I wanted at, you know, after I verified, you know, who I was. Yeah.   Just   freaking gave you know, I told her, I said, Donnie, I don't need a copy of it. This was, you know, like, seventeen years ago. Just trying to remember what what day and and,  

[00:29:33] Duuude-Ron :

and year I I was married.   Right. Exactly. You know? And I remember that stretch of five years of sheer help. When was that?  

[00:29:43] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, the day it started, I forgot that shit.   But so so yeah. But, yeah, marriage records   might be a challenge to get. But  

[00:29:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I went ahead and got it. We got it ordered. It's supposed to be here sometime this week is what I'm hear hearing.   So that and,   got   was oh, shit. Well, where's my damn to do list that I had?  

[00:30:09] Rich Chelson:

Dude, are you back? I saw you unmuted yourself.  

[00:30:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'm back.  

[00:30:15] Unknown:

Yay. How'd the poopy go?  

[00:30:18] Unknown:

Yeah.   Right.  

[00:30:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, I was I I No. I We tried to holler   Yeah. I tried to holler at you, and I thought you had fell asleep already.  

[00:30:30] Unknown:

No. Not yet. Haven't even taken the drugs yet. That'll be here in a couple minutes.   Oh, okay. You don't have to worry about that at about   09:15,   09:30 ish time frame.   So Okay. That'll be but I'll do my diligence to   stay awake.  

[00:30:47] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Yeah. So, yeah, the the other things was, yeah, needing to talk to, the wife's, getting ahold of the wife's chiropractor, see if I can get a time   find a time to get hers   shoved in so she could get herself all lined out, call my, my mother-in-law,   see what, she had to say   about about everything and a couple other questions. And then, also, Nick, was trying to get ahold of the local butcher because I was wanting to see and I could that that one, I actually failed at actually talking to him, but it wasn't because of lack of trying. I mean, hell, I tried calling that that old fart several times and just   was not answering his phone. I don't know if he just didn't didn't know me. I just had to wait until I see him and run up there and talk to him a lot. But what we're wanting is there's two sets of things that I'm wanting to see if I see what he charges for for getting those.  

One is   tallow.   I'd like to be able to snag some of the,   they call it suet, but suet but,   but suet is   a   because they're like, well, this is, then they use it to to feed birds. No. That's two different. They're for whatever reason, they're I don't know if they call   the the hard,   dense fat that's sitting over on the,   on cattle's   kidneys, if they call that suet also   or and suet the grain   because   yeah. And suet just looks like a little bit it looks like, miniature Milo   is what it looks like. It's about the same size   or same shape as Milo, just a lot smaller.  

Ew bitty soybeans if you want.   So   so as I've because I've been wanting to look into,   you know, just starting to do tallow   as as a cooking ingredient as, you know, as the   as an as a difference between see if I can get myself off   of the the motor oil substitutes that are   seed oils.   But then also wanted to talk to him about how much he how much he charges for organ meats.   So get stuff like, you know,   what's the stomach lining called that starts with a t?   The new it was made out of Tripe. Tripe. Thank you. Yeah. Wanted to see get something like get the get green tripe,   which is just which is unprocessed. It's not being bleached. It's just it's still green because of all the, alfalfa and foliage that they've eaten. So get the   get tripe, get, like, the heart   and liver, kidneys,   and and the those other types   types of, of organ meats.  

Because one of the things Jan is wanting to try to do just which I'm trying to encourage her to do because this one, it gets her up and moving and gets her trying to do something   and gets her a little bit more active,   and stuff.   They because, like I said, everything with Lexi is kinda kinda knocked the the wind out of her sails.   And so   and she's been kinda talking about, well, what does it take to make   our own dog boot? Because,   you know, this could be a this could be a a rough greens   commercial if you if wanted to, but we don't do commercials.   We'll talk about that here at the end of the end of the program. But but it's gonna sound like a rough greens commercial because   to make a dog food   shelf stable, which is what it's gotta be,   to be able to be sold through, the Food and Drug Administration,   they have to cook it to where all the   healthy nutrient,   all the enzymes   and and amino acids and all the good proteins and all that are pretty much cooked out of it.  

They have to dry it out so much and all that so that everything   just is this hard kibble.   And so to to help the dogs have a healthier life,   one of the things they need is the stuff that's in the organ meats.   And,   actually, in all reality, that's, you know, you look at coyotes and stuff, that's what they actually go and eat most out of whenever they kill a cow or one of the kill a cow.   They'll they'll,   you know, they'll drag a calf down, and they start out at its butt and work in   because   the the the tissue there is a lot softer.   And so they like dogs as a whole   need the organ meats.  

Yeah. They like the they like the the marrow. I mean, that is called the butter of the gods.   So, you know,   be able to get   a but get be able to get organ enough organ meat if it's cheap enough. You know? I don't think very many people are asking for,   give me the kidneys, the the liver. Some of them some people some weirdos probably are going, hey. Yeah. Give me the livers too.   Well, you do that. You just have fun with that liver. But, you know,   have the the liver, the   the, the the   kidneys, the tripe,   pancreas,   and, you know, many of the other internal organs of, the cattle,   take those and be able   to be able to to actually just process those in whatever way Janice wants to process them and turn them into, into dog food and see we'll see how the dogs react to it because at the moment, they're just kinda, like, give them food. They're kinda like, no.  

Yeah. If I happen to be hungry down the road, I might chew on some, and they usually do.   But it's, it's usually they're not excited about it unless I put a except on on Sundays when I'm at the house, and that's   that's when God comes along and smears a little bacon grease on the, on the dog food. So   I give my dog   a   bacon grease, and they love that. They go to town with that.  

[00:36:42] Rich Chelson:

I bet they do.   I bet they do. Oh, yeah.  

[00:36:47] Duuude-Ron :

So they they get a little bit a little bit of bacon grease and and stuff like that.   And they they   they but that shows me that they want the the the real healthier stuff. I mean, I'm trying to cook   trying to cook with lard, so I'd like to, you know, still mix up with lard and,   and tallow. Not to mention, heck, I didn't realize tallow for the longest time was actually even used as makeup.  

[00:37:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah.   So   I I I had read that years ago. I mean, I you know, it's not something that stays on the front of my mind, but, yeah, I've heard that before. Yeah. I've I've heard that they'd use, like, cow's blood.  

[00:37:27] Duuude-Ron :

They'd use the platelets in cow's blood as for for the red.   But   but, yeah, it was   when I heard the bad, I was like   because, I mean, there's a there's a company out now called Tallow, and that's that's their name, and they make, yeah, make lipsticks and blushes and all the other   assorted creams and and and concoctions that women put on their face. And   it's like, oh, okay. Well, you know, stand out and stand out loud and proud. I mean, everybody's   everybody's   realizing that,   slapping   gallons of of chemicals on you is probably not the best,   choice to make.  



[00:38:06] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, that's true, but, you know, a lot of people do it. Yep.   And that's just how it goes. You know? Right.   But,   dude, you've been quiet. What's up?  

[00:38:19] Unknown:

Man, I just been listening to y'all   discussing   whatever the hell you're discussing because Anything and everything around.   Yeah. You know what? You lost me about what time is it? 07:45.   Yeah. You lost me about an hour ago.  

[00:38:35] Duuude-Ron :

And we only and we've only been on here for forty five fucking minutes. Yep. So so did you get a level three?  

[00:38:42] Unknown:

What do you mean level three? Inspection.   Well,   let's see. On the first, I got the level one. We found,   obviously, that  

[00:38:52] Duuude-Ron :

barely audible air leak.  

[00:38:55] Unknown:

And, of course, that was a motherfucker to find.   And then   last Tuesday, two days ago,   I got stopped for a level two.  

[00:39:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:39:07] Unknown:

So been stopped twice.   Had   my incident review phone call today. And how did that go?   Oh, that just went   fucking peachy.  

[00:39:18] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Is that a sarcastic peachy, or is that a an actual peachy?  

[00:39:23] Unknown:

No. It's a kind of sarcastic because they wanted me to tell them   how I started my day.   Okay.   What?   It's like  

[00:39:35] Duuude-Ron :

How much of a detail did you go? Well, I first   scratched,   find out a bat bed,   went to the bathroom,   rubbed one out, brushed my teeth.  

[00:39:46] Unknown:

No. Not no. It's like, okay.   When I get in, I start my pre trip inspection.   First, I look up underneath the hood,   then I check all the tire pressure on all the tires,   and then   I walk the vehicle,   get under the vehicle with a flashlight,   and check everything else.   Also listening for audible leaks.   And then I   continue on with the rest of my day.   I'm like,  

[00:40:18] Duuude-Ron :

you ought to know me by now. I I do I do a full inspection.   I'm the only one that does a full inspection.  

[00:40:27] Rich Chelson:

And you have to thing. Why why the hell would they ask   a stupid question like that?   Because they know you. You've been there fifteen years.   You've been driving for what? Five or six? Because the insurance company demands it.   I That's why. I'd fucking tell them, hey. Y'all know what I do.   And, no, I'm not gonna sit here and go through it again just to   appease   your   lack  

[00:40:56] Unknown:

of brainpower.   Yeah.   You know? So   I tell them what I do every day.   This does not change.   And then they start asking,   questions about   then   my boss, Mike,   after I got done with that,   intervened   and said,   yes. I have talked to mechanic,   and   it was   very   troublesome   to find this air leak   that DPS   said Ron had.   So which it was. It took us a while to fucking find the goddamn thing.   So I got the I got asked the question,   did they do did they use leak check?   I said,   I don't know because I was in the cab with my foot on the brake pedal.  

[00:41:53] Rich Chelson:

Good. Yeah.  

[00:41:54] Duuude-Ron :

And then Yeah. But the insurance company, the purchase, man. They they gotta know everything. They're gonna  

[00:42:00] Unknown:

And HR asked me because then as it proceeded a lot proceeded along,   you know,   I can't remember oh, the vice president of operations,   he said, and you just received   a level two   two days ago. I'm like, that's correct. So I got a level one on the first, and I got level two on the eighth. That is correct.   And there was no faults on the level two. I'm like, that is correct.  

[00:42:30] Duuude-Ron :

There was no fault. Two was not as not as detailed.  

[00:42:35] Unknown:

That's very true.   And   the director of our HR   says,   when I   when I got stopped the second time,   was I using   the same tractor and trailer   that had been on the level one inspection? I say, yes. That was I was driving my   truck and trailer. Trailer.   That's correct. Because   all of the deficiencies   have   been fixed.   So   we're good to go. All the parts that needed to be   replaced have been replaced,   so there is going to be no more audible   air leak.   And he's like, okay. And then   then I always ask,   was the same   was it the same DPS officer   that pulled me over for the level two   the same one   that   did the level one.  

No. It was not.   So it was a completely different officer.  

[00:43:41] Duuude-Ron :

So I realize Texas has, like,   has has several thousand DPS troopers. Right?  

[00:43:49] Unknown:

Well and I know the reason why she   asked that question  

[00:43:54] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah? Because  

[00:43:55] Unknown:

okay.   He had a level one, had a audible air leak.   Is this the same trooper that is targeting me   again   Oh. Basically   for another RSI?   Did I get the,   you know, did I get it fixed? Because I was running   my truck and trailer again. Right. So and I can understand why she asked the question.   So   and then   and I can't remember what the other question did she ask me. And then, you know,   I can't remember the question that the vice president asked me.   But then, oh,   he was asking Mike about how often do we get   dry PMs done on   our trailers,   which is roughly every ninety days   because there's one person   in the Southwest Region   that schedules   everything   for every   vehicle,   straight truck,   tractor, trailer,   what have you. That is her only job is to do   the maintenance aspects   for all the trucks. And Oh, the maintenance recording? Okay. Yeah.  

So   she we get a   dry PM done on our trailers   every ninety days,   which is   twice as often as anybody else   in the industry gets theirs done  

[00:45:27] Duuude-Ron :

for the most part. Which is funny. I hear dry   dry PM.   And what comes to my head because what over over the   at Updegrope   I don't know. What they would actually do,   with the trucks,   especially if they were they they were being told that there was an air leak someplace,   or they were losing kept losing air. They'd on the trailer, they would actually take the trailer,   the truck and the trailer, and they would go to Lake Luger,   back the trailer into the into their lake,   submerse it,   and look for bubbles. Oh,  

[00:46:03] Unknown:

Jesus   fucking Christ.  

[00:46:05] Duuude-Ron :

God. That No. They it went. They're like, hey. We found every every,   you you know you're gonna have a leak somewhere in there because it's gonna start bubbling someplace.   And sure enough, they'd I get in there. You'd sit there and see them.  

[00:46:24] Unknown:

Okay.   So  

[00:46:26] Duuude-Ron :

It works, but, hell, no. I hit it. I hit it. It's like they do that. I was like, what do I hit with the brake?  

[00:46:34] Unknown:

Hey.   More fucking power to them.  

[00:46:37] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly. God bless them. What yeah.  

[00:46:40] Unknown:

So Like the ingenuity.   You know, I'm not gonna lose   I'm not gonna have a write up. I'm not gonna have,   you know,   the loss of my driver bonus,   that kind of stuff. So there's gonna be no adverse   actions   on me.   Right.   But   I don't know how much   the company   is as a fine   for an audible air leak.   I have no fucking idea. Oh, the other question that HR asked me, was I put   out of service?   And, no, I wasn't put out of service.  

[00:47:19] Rich Chelson:

Didn't they read the inspection?  

[00:47:22] Unknown:

Dude,   I fucking don't know.  

[00:47:26] Rich Chelson:

Obviously, they did not obviously not because the fucking inspection read this fucking script.  

[00:47:32] Unknown:

Yes.  

[00:47:33] Rich Chelson:

It has it on there. I mean, it it it says it if you're out of service or not.   Oh my god, dude. Does.  

[00:47:41] Unknown:

Yes. It does.   So I just answered the question and I yeah. Just rolling my eyes in the back of my head   figuratively.   Not Right.   Actually, but I'm like, oh my god.  

[00:47:58] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I know. I I just dude. Yeah. See,   you're   yeah. Yeah. I I I would I would have a hard problem   with a lot of of those questions   because they it's it's   it's useless   conversation,   and that's what turns me off is useless conversation.  

[00:48:22] Unknown:

You know what?   85% of that conversation this morning   was pointless.  

[00:48:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Absolutely pointless. Like you do.  

[00:48:32] Unknown:

The and the only thing   that   and the vice president,   Kevin,   he knows   my character,   my morals, my ethics   when it comes to my   truck.   And he makes the comment right before the end   before I was dismissed, and then they, you know, did they go and have their talk about whatever the hell they're gonna talk about. And my boss says,   Ron, just get on the  

[00:49:02] Rich Chelson:

road. Right.  

[00:49:04] Unknown:

Because he already knew what the outcome was gonna be. I knew what the outcome was gonna be. I mean, I mean, he was  

[00:49:09] Duuude-Ron :

Please. Just go. You're good. It was good. You know, it was Get on the road. You're good.  

[00:49:14] Rich Chelson:

Given outcome,   but still Yeah.   A lot of useless   conversation   for   nothing.  

[00:49:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:49:24] Unknown:

I did learn something. Though. I did learn something, though, out of that meeting.   Okay. So you know it's national hit week this week. Correct? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.   Next week,   I don't know if it's national or if this is Texas.   Next week is another hit week.  

[00:49:43] Rich Chelson:

That's probably Texas because normally   the national is just once a year.  

[00:49:49] Unknown:

Well Actually, the national   was twice   this year. Right.   Yeah. One in April,   one in the April,   and then   this week.   So they actually had two national hit weeks   Yeah. Which is fine. I don't give a shit. They can have all the hit weeks they want.   Every week can be a damn hit week. They can pull me over every damn week. I could care less.   You know? Because,   yes, I had this audible air leak. No. It cannot be detected when you're doing your walk around for the vehicle because the only time it is audible is when you have your foot   pressed down on the brake pedal and holding it.  

And, I mean, I held my that brake pedal down for it was, like, one to two minutes.   I had that brake pedal depressed.   I'm like, this is fucking you know? And I'm thinking to myself, this is fucking odd.   But, you know,   they're gonna do whatever they're gonna do.   Yeah. And and so   next week   and I'm always prepared for level one. You can have all my books. You can have   everything.   Knock yourself out.   Dig up into my truck.   My truck is good.   You know? Okay. This is the first time it wasn't good, but it can't be   determined on   a pre trip or post trip in a standard inspection.  

So I'm always ready for a level one, and they could pull me over every week if they damn well want to.   Right.   And   and they're gonna do it anyway.   If they wanna do it if they wanted   be anal like that, they're gonna do it anyway.   I was expecting   today   going through Comanche   and having that DPS   officer   sitting there where he sat last time   when you're coming up 36 to Abilene and you get into Comanche and you have that left and go down Main Street?  

[00:51:51] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[00:51:51] Unknown:

Okay. So   last time, he was sitting right across the street   in,   basically, the   dirt parking lot. Yeah. Just Yeah. Wait just   waiting   for a specific   type vehicle,   and it just so happened to be he was waiting on   my style vehicle,   which is what   good for him.   Next week, they're checking for   distractive driving,   speeding,   and   comprehension   of the English language   is the three priorities that they're looking for next week,   which, yeah, did you know?   Now how okay.   How many truck drivers do you think are in the state of Texas?   We'll just throw a ballpark figure out there. We'll say a 100,000.  

Right?   Out of that 100,000,   how many of them   are actual   professionals?  

[00:52:57] Rich Chelson:

Everybody has a different thing about a professional run.  

[00:53:01] Duuude-Ron :

Well yeah. Textbook term of, professional is someone who earns a living   from   a from a a an activity.   That's what I and when I hear it, you know, professional drivers, professional truckers.   There's those. Farmers are truckers, but they're not professional truckers.   So you Well see kind of the difference.  

[00:53:22] Unknown:

When I think about it,  

[00:53:24] Duuude-Ron :

it's  

[00:53:26] Unknown:

damn. I just fucking the whole damn choo choo changes fucking went off the goddamn rails.   I just lost my whole damn train of thought. Thank you very much. Hey. I'm good. I'm here for you, man.   Yo. No. You have   somebody that works at that job,   and then you have professionals.   Somebody that takes pride   in their job.   That's my definition.  

[00:53:54] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:53:55] Unknown:

And   Ron's   definition is   maybe   less than 10%   of the drivers in Texas are professionals.   The rest of them are just drivers.   Because, yeah, I see motherfuckers going down the road all the time   on their cell phones.   It's just   drifting out of the fucking lane,   you know, just   chatting away on the fucking   texting.   It's like, dude.   So, yeah, maybe they fucking hit a good amount of those next week.   I would just love to be there, you know,   when I see,   say, a driver that passes me   that's on his cell phone.   And then   10 miles down the road,   I pass him again because   DPS is sitting behind him.  



[00:54:51] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:54:53] Unknown:

I would just love to see that karma.   But in turn, tomorrow, I'm also   waiting   for DPS   to be sitting just South of Waco,   South of Robinson,   on the side,   waiting for me to pass.   Yeah.   And and and if it's the same one as it always, he'll be the fourth time   he stops me,   and he'll get up on my truck and look at every damn label on every cylinder.   Right?   And he's done it the past three  

[00:55:28] Duuude-Ron :

three, four times.  

[00:55:30] Unknown:

Himself out.   I learned   from the first one   because he gave me a warning   that   I had several labels   that   for more than thirty days,   you   degradated   for the color.   I'm like and I'm thinking to myself when he presented that to me. It's like, how do you know it wasn't thirty two fuck?   What if it was only   eighteen days?   However, I didn't say, okay. Where's your color chart at?   Because they're supposed to have a standard   for what the labels   as far as the green, the yellow,   what is the minimum standards   of the color for the labels.   So that is your opinion.  

I say it's green. You say it's blue. That's your opinion.   Because you didn't you didn't present me with the color chart of what the standard is.   So I just changed all the fucking labels. If they're if they're starting to tint blue   from green,   yeah, they're  

[00:56:41] Duuude-Ron :

gonna  

[00:56:42] Unknown:

Yeah. So   and and here's   the thing that I found out, which is okay.   That's not my it's not my fucking concern   because I asked our safety department.   I want a copy   of their fucking   their   Their charge. That   they use   so I can have that in my truck   as a reference.   Okay? This is your standards.   You know, go off your standards.   Yeah. If they don't present the chart, I present the chart. Precisely. Here here's what   was explained to me by my safety department   that was told by DPS   that they don't use the   color chart anymore   because  

[00:57:34] Duuude-Ron :

They don't give us any tickets.  

[00:57:36] Unknown:

No.   Because of the ink on the labels,   the same thing with the ink on the paper,   when it comes in contact long term with heat,   it starts to fade.   So   they have the same situation,   you know, because of the colored ink on the paper.  

[00:57:58] Duuude-Ron :

So whether it's in a whether it's in a binder or not, it,   it fades anyhow.  

[00:58:04] Unknown:

Yeah. From from the heat of being inside the vehicle,   you know,   I get it.   You know? But okay.   You wanna you wanna place a standard on it.   It   shouldn't be based upon your opinion.   And then No.   And then   make a statement,   labels are more than thirty days UV degradation.   You know, how do you fucking know?   Have you tracked every one of these cylinders and where it has been for the last   three, six, nine months?   Right.   You know?   But I'm not gonna get into a pissing contest.  

[00:58:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, come on. Where's the fun in that?  

[00:58:50] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm not gonna get in a pissing contest with them because   you're gonna lose.  

[00:58:56] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:58:57] Unknown:

Pissing contest, then they're gonna dig up in your shit.  

[00:59:00] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Just do what you gotta do. And I got it. It keeps a little better from a, oh, you know what? Go level two.   Let's do level one just to make sure.  

[00:59:11] Unknown:

Yeah. Let me let me call another officer. He'll be here in about thirty minutes.  

[00:59:15] Duuude-Ron :

We'll go ahead and weigh you out and everything.  

[00:59:19] Unknown:

Exactly.   So   you know? And granted, I get paid by the hour. So   if I sit there for thirty minutes waiting on the other officer, it's   so be it. Yep. You know? It is what it is.   I mean, they wanna dig up my stuff. You know?   That's why I'm not gonna challenge them.   I'll let the fucking   lawyers   for our handle that.   Handle that.   That's what they get paid to do.  

[00:59:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Absolutely.  

[00:59:50] Unknown:

So and I guess   from our safety director's comment this morning   that they're gonna try and fight   this particular citation because I guess the company gets   fined. What the amount is, I have no idea.   I've I've never been told any of that.   Tried to fight it, but   more than likely, we're gonna lose.   Really? Wow.   Yeah.   Again,   you know,   a barely   audible air leak   Yep. But an air leak all the same.  

[01:00:26] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   You you do you, boo.  

[01:00:30] Unknown:

Exactly, dude. You, boo. You know how many fucking   connectors there are in a fucking   brake line system?  

[01:00:39] Duuude-Ron :

There can be quite a few. Half of them being  

[01:00:42] Unknown:

and half of them sometimes being plastic   Uh-huh. With the heat with the heat in Texas   and   always having a 100   pounds of pressure on it.   You think something's gonna fucking leak?   Go figure.   I don't know.   So that has been the entertainment   for my,   basically, the last week.   Yep.   Oh, and then I did wanna add something to that.   There was   one and there was two of them actually in the same proximity.   Some fucking   a Toyota Prius pulled out in front of me   last week,   and then just you know,   I guess the guy forgot what the fucking skinny pedal looked like   or feels like, and just   dawdling along. It's like, you know, motherfucker.  

If you're gonna get out in front of an 80,000 pound vehicle, get the fuck out of the way.   And then   you could barely hear   him try to speed up. And then there another Prius   passes me,   and he had on the gas. You know what it sounded like?   The throttle for a Prius?  

[01:01:58] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:02:04] Unknown:

Yes. They are.   100%.   Okay.   Well, I kinda thought you guys would find that one.   That hilarious.  

[01:02:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I don't I don't know if I could own a Prius.  

[01:02:23] Duuude-Ron :

No. I would Well, how do you want to? Because, I mean, hell, those things are   I mean, the insurance for those things are incredible.   You've got and my son's figured this out because he went off and got himself   at Toyota Celica   that's a hybrid.  

[01:02:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:02:40] Duuude-Ron :

And   he was, like, going,   wow. I'm don't know what in the hell is going on. My insurance is go is through the roof. And I was like, well,   how long ago was the your reckless driving   ticket? He was like, well, that was you know, we've got around kinda thinking about it and let think it through. It was like, had to have been about five years ago,   maybe four at the most. It was like, it should have dropped off by now   and,   and got and stuff. And it's like, okay. So what what else could this possibly you know, what what could it possibly be?   And I got around to look and it's like, well, the only thing that's different between this and the others is that it's a hybrid. And I said and so I   started looking up   insurance quotes for, you know, Toyota sell his year, Toyota sell   or not Celica, it's Corolla. Toyota Corolla.  

Hybrid. And sure enough,   $400   a freaking month.   Damn. For an old port like me.   That's crazy. And the reason why is because, a, the battery   Yeah. Batteries fail. And when the batteries fail, they sometimes go up, so you have a you end up totaling out the car.   Yep. But, also, because all the parts   in a in a in a hybrid   are   specific   parts that are highly expensive. It's kinda like the headlights we were talking about one with the last, last week.  

[01:04:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. It  

[01:04:06] Duuude-Ron :

was kinda The old style you know, they used to have the sealed headlights   that   cost maybe $510,   10 at the most, and then you had the halogen bulbs, which were about 12 to 15.   And then you had Zeons, which is about 25, and now they've got the LEDs, which is all whole you you don't get to just take the light bulb out. You have to take the whole   lens and the housing and everything else with it out. And, you know, you're looking at 12 to $1,500   Yep. Strictly for to change out a headlight now.   Yep.   And so, yeah, it's it's just gotten that expensive.   And so, yeah, the insurance has   had to to increase   on on their amounts   strictly for the fact that, oh, yeah. Everyone else charges us as an arm and a leg for for everything. So we've gotta   gotta make our own,   make up our our losses   in one way or another. And right now, that's   the best way to get in the losses. You know, if you've got a got a,   a hybrid   or an electric car, electric cars are just as expensive.  

You know, electric car, then you get to, you get to pay more.   Yep. I can only pay top of that, if your if your if your,   electric car goes up in flames   in your house,   guess what the insurance doesn't cover?  

[01:05:31] Unknown:

Yep. The house.  

[01:05:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Won't cover the house. You've done lost your house.  

[01:05:36] Unknown:

Yep.   You know? And I can only imagine what somebody is paying for   in the line   of   for one of these cyber trucks or any any model   of the Tesla cars.  

[01:05:52] Duuude-Ron :

Tesla cars, the Rivian car vehicles.   I mean, any of those are just   crazy insane expensive.   I mean, how the Tesla   the Cybertruck is what? Like   like,   80,000,   if not more?   100,000?  

[01:06:11] Unknown:

Yeah. They're they're rolling about 90 to a 120,000.  

[01:06:16] Duuude-Ron :

Which, I mean, in my book is like   it's one of the reason why I'm struggling on   on   once we get to get the car, you know, get the car our car problem swapped around where we actually got a different car   that, that we know will run and it will be fully dependable.   You know? I'm  

[01:06:35] Unknown:

And you and I need to talk offline  

[01:06:39] Duuude-Ron :

about that. Oh, okay.   Because, yeah, we got,   it's been got,   then I need to see about getting a pickup because, I mean, hell, well, I've gotta   find a way.   Like, last year was was a bit on the chilly side because we couldn't find anybody to freaking deliver wood to our house.   Finally found one guy at the end   of end of winter there, you know, the about the middle of spring.   Finally found the guy. He's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's and, I mean, it was the one thing I would I kept avoiding.   He would I mean, the total bill for him selling me the wood and bringing it out, it was it was a $175.   It's like, son of a bitch. That's too damn much for freaking wood.  

Because, I mean, it was you know, the wood itself was not bad. It was like he was only charging, like, like, 125,   but still What did you get? A cord? Or what did you get? A cord? A brick? Or No. Just a rick.  

[01:07:34] Unknown:

Okay.   Rig is what? Eight by eight?  

[01:07:37] Duuude-Ron :

It's a it's a half a cord. So it's, it's   what   four it's, what, two foot   by six foot by four foot   or three foot by six foot by four foot.   Four foot tall, six foot long, and I can't remember how deep that wood is. But yeah.  

[01:07:57] Unknown:

About 18 inches. Yeah. So Yeah. 18 inches for fireplace.  

[01:08:02] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Except my except my fire my my wood stove is a little wood stove, so it has to take the shortcuts. It's like only 13 inches.   So   that'll that'll   take. But,   so anytime I Yeah. Anytime I get, get wood, I'm usually   taking all the long pieces and then going out in the on the front porch with my with my   reciprocal saw on cutting about   about three, four inches off of each one. It's like, goddamn. I'll actually I'll just cut them in half and just, you know There you go. Just cut them in half.  

[01:08:34] Unknown:

Yeah.   And you're not   hopefully, you're   using the three inches at the beginning.  

[01:08:41] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, whenever whenever I yeah. I mean, if I if I go whenever I there's a lot of times that's what I'd start off doing. I I got down to knowing how far how long the wood needed to be. I could do just eyeball it and be able to cut it and be able to pretty much get it to go into the firebox and work.   And,   you know but, eventually, I just got tired of of, you know, some of them being a little too long and stuff. So I ended up just just cutting them in half. But but whenever I was doing that yeah. Oh, yeah. Those ends? That was the kindling. I've I've   piled all that on and,   you know Oh, okay. And stuff. And I'd use those, and I'd take the extra extra ends, and I'd stuff them in the, whenever I'd go to stuff the firebox when I fire first starting it. Hell, I'd get that thing going to where it   at night, it would sit there, and it would glow red.  

It's like, yeah. We're fucking hot now.   I was able to get that damn colander we call a house to to actually get up to about, about 75, 80 degrees a couple times.  

[01:09:43] Unknown:

Wow.  

[01:09:45] Duuude-Ron :

The whole thing would I mean, it was   it it yeah. We were I mean, if you look inside, we're supposed to be one of those one of those   more,   eco friendly styles where they have the, they have the the the stove bricks across the top.   So but so that the smoke doesn't,   and and the heat and the fire doesn't go strictly up the, up the flue.   But there's also   the I'm gonna call it ventilation   pipes that go across the top.   Yeah. So if the so that the fire can actually go in through there and go up and around   and and to the, to this the   stovepipe and go up and out that way.  

Well, we've gotten it so hot so many times. They've all started they've all sagged down. I'm actually missing, I think, two   two of two out of the four   because they would be so hot that they would just, eventually just started   started to sag far enough to where they fell out.   So   I I realized I could actually get that box really freaking hot. So   alrighty.   But, you know,   when you're when you live in a in a calendar like I do in the wintertime,   you know, you feel the north wind blow through through the the the front, you know, the living room.   Yeah. Yeah. That's   it takes that. So that's one of the things it's one of my big,   big goals   that I'm gonna do come come here and, once I have enough money put together is I'm gonna buy one of those two in one window units   and install a, two twenty volt   line and   get one of those that does the heating and air conditioning.  



[01:11:29] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah. Mhmm.  

[01:11:31] Duuude-Ron :

And,   and do that. Yeah. And that way, at least the bedroom   will stay stay nice and warm because, I mean, Janice stays in the bedroom anyhow.   And,   I I had I like, the well, I don't like it, but I I can tolerate the living room   in the, in the in the 50 degree range.   So when it gets really freaking cold, you know, I can I all I have to do is just grab a I'll just grab   my my sleeping bag, throw it   over me, and   rain will crawl in underneath the blankets with me? And I use her her bloody heat.   And and, and I sit there, and I watch movies and play video games, and   it's it's all good.  

But, you know, there'd been a couple times, like,   thankfully, the last couple years, we hadn't had a had an ice storm or a bad enough ice storm come through that that knocked the, electricity out because   that's when it really sucks because then you're doing all your heating and cooking and all that off that off that wood stove.   And granted, it saves your it saves your bacon, but at the same time, you have to it takes a little bit to figure out how to get, get water to boil on that. How hot do you actually need to start throw how much wood do you need to throw in there   to to get the get it hot enough to boil water? And, it's it answers a bit.  



[01:12:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It takes it I've I've I've tried that before on a wood stove. It's it's a challenge.  

[01:13:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I don't know how I mean, if you ever watched well, what is it? The Color Purple.  

[01:13:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Years ago.  

[01:13:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And and you had the scene where   oh, not Shug.   Whoopi Goldberg's character.   Back where Whoopi went completely stupid.   Whoopi's,   character   and   and oh, what's his name? I'm getting too old for this shit guy.  

[01:13:26] Unknown:

Glover.  

[01:13:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Danny Glover   were,   she had had had enough of his shit, and so she was she basically kinda went on strike, and he was trying to figure out how to do shit himself.   And, he was trying to figure out how to how to work the, work the stove, and he was trying to figure out how do you get enough heat in here trying to cook something up. And   after after a few moments, he's like, how do you do this? And she's like,   don't get the hell out of its kitchen essentially, and   go turns around and search oh, that's what it was. He was fry he was trying to bake breakfast for, for Shug Avery.   The,   the woman of his dreams basically and become the the friend of of,   I wanna say miss Tilly, but that's not right.  

Bam, Whoopi Goldberg's character.   And and so he was trying to figure it out, and he basically   just,   he just, he basically stepped out of the way and let Whoopi's character make the ham and eggs and all that and, and stuff. And she was it just showed how easy to her, how easy it was. She just knew how much wood to throw in, go let it get hot enough, and and commenced to commenced to cooking. And,   and so, yeah, it's it's it's an art   for sure to get, to get everything up hot enough to where you could actually cook something. I mean, usually, what we'd wound up doing was just having a whole bunch of ramen noodles because we get the water hot enough to and stuff, but we could quite get it to boil.  

[01:15:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. It does take a while for that.  

[01:15:07] Duuude-Ron :

So   but we did take a we would take the the   take a couple pots and set them on top just to, you know, just at least to keep throw a little humidity in the air versus, right, just got sucked out underneath the door just about as fast as we've created it. So but, you know, fun things you do when you're in a 100 year old house   that has only been modified by adding rooms and not updated.   So,   yeah, that's wanna get that done. Also, the other thing that I was gonna try to do this next next week is get all the goddamn trees cut away from my house. I've got   I'm trying to enough enough little saplings that have sprouted up that they're that they're,   they're basically basically causing problems now. So I've gotta   get out there with chainsaw and and and a, and a reciprocal saw if, if I can't quite get to them enough, with the chainsaw and   and get those damn things cut down and and ground away so I can get   I can get, take a drill and put some holes in them so I can fill them up with Epsom salt and kill those darn stumps.  

Right.   So   that'll be my next big learning.   Only way I've ever pulled up stumps, though, is with   that's another reason I'll need a pickup too.   It would help   to to dig the stumps up enough to where I can get, like, a chain or or cable or something underneath it and   and and be able to, pull them up and out.   And,   if not, then I'll probably need to just go buy myself a a handyman jack and and just pick them up and out that way.   Alright. Did we actually get a a stage done?  

[01:16:56] Rich Chelson:

That would be that would be probably your best.  

[01:16:59] Duuude-Ron :

I agree.  

[01:17:01] Rich Chelson:

And, I mean, you can go to our freight and pick up one of those for   pretty cheap.   Yeah.   You know?   So, I mean, shit. You just need the 48 inch one. You wouldn't even need the 60 inch.  

[01:17:15] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But, I mean, hey. We're gonna go for if we're gonna go for it, we might as well go for the full.  

[01:17:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, you say that big or go home.  

[01:17:27] Duuude-Ron :

Well  

[01:17:29] Rich Chelson:

That's true. I mean, I mean, with the 60, you could,   you know, pretty much do anything you needed.  

[01:17:36] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:17:37] Rich Chelson:

You know, pretty much. I mean Pretty much.   It does it does have some limitations   because,   like, when you're using the high lift on on the trail with the Jeep,   you know, if you have you know, if you dropped your wheel   off   a decent hole, the 48 inch might not lift the Jeep high enough.   Yeah.   You know, especially if you got, you know, like,   dude's Jeep   with it being lifted.   You know?  

[01:18:06] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[01:18:07] Rich Chelson:

So  

[01:18:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yep.  

[01:18:11] Rich Chelson:

See, mine Alright. Mine went to Ford. Let's see my TJ.  

[01:18:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   That's   weird. Hearing a weird What you got?  

[01:18:19] Rich Chelson:

I was I was I was hearing a weird noise.   It sounds like   water's dripping somewhere,   but I don't have no water dripping.   Thank goodness.   Yeah. I'm very glad for that.   But but yeah. No. That's,   I mean, you can get a 60 inch, but, I mean, shit. A 48 would  

[01:18:43] Unknown:

Yeah. I see what  

[01:18:44] Rich Chelson:

be easy for you   or easier.   Yeah.   You know?   Now I think I think I think I wanna try snorkeling, man.  

[01:18:56] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that's a bad thing to do.  

[01:18:58] Rich Chelson:

I don't know, though.  

[01:19:00] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, people start looking at you like you're a pervert when you're snorkeling in the in in the public pool,   but, you know,   you know, you gotta start someplace.  

[01:19:10] Rich Chelson:

You know? And and, yeah, that would be funny to take my,   take my   GoPro with me and   yeah. No.   Not to the public pool.   Well I I would I would have to pass on that.  

[01:19:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well   You know? No. You you can get away with it when you're a 13 year old kid. You just get you just get a bunch of underwater fingers, but you know?  

[01:19:39] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Oh, yeah. Like,   I ain't I ain't gonna see 13 years old ever again.   I ain't either. My time has passed.  

[01:19:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yep. Same   here.  

[01:19:57] Rich Chelson:

That's what I   think.   But, I mean, I could I could go down there till you go.  

[01:20:04] Duuude-Ron :

I don't think you're gonna see much.  

[01:20:06] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. Might see through it.   You never know.  

[01:20:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:20:12] Rich Chelson:

Because I I I saw something   oh god. This here was a while back.   Couple months back. I wanna go down to   the goal because   my my GoPro is waterproof.   Right?   Right.   And I was thinking I'd tie some five fifty cord to it because there's a big long pier walk   you can walk out over the water. It's a long ways too. Thank god they got benches along the way.   But   you wind up like you're twenty, thirty feet   above the water when you get out there. Right? Oh, wow.   Yeah. And and, I mean, it's like I said, I I'd say I'd say   it's probably close to a quarter mile it goes out.   And,   and then there's, like, a pier area, and they got benches you can sit on. You can stand by the railings and all like that and look out. But I was thinking about taking my GoPro,   turning it on, and then and then dropping it in the water,   and then just, you know, record whatever I see.  



[01:21:19] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:21:21] Rich Chelson:

So   that was that was actually the reason I started looking for my GoPro   back. Oh.   Because it's like, you know, I I had   I I can't I can't remember if I saw a video or or what, but   I was like,   yeah. That'd be cool.   So I started looking for my GoPro,   and it took me until, what, yesterday or the day before this one?  

[01:21:50] Unknown:

What's that? And you know why you found it. Right?  

[01:21:53] Rich Chelson:

Why?  

[01:21:54] Unknown:

Because you looked in the last place that you placed it.  

[01:21:58] Rich Chelson:

Right. And And you found it. You wanna hear something funny?  

[01:22:02] Duuude-Ron :

I Cracking of my knees?  

[01:22:06] Unknown:

The cracking of my knees?  

[01:22:10] Rich Chelson:

No. I it's it's   I found my GoPro,   but I do not remember   where I found it at.   I found it. I've got it I've got it in a place where I know where it's at now,   but I I I cannot, for the life of me, remember   the place where I found it at.  

[01:22:29] Unknown:

Yeah. I think you're still getting, affected by the Novocaine when they did your key.  

[01:22:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Right. Right. I mean I mean, shit. It's only been two weeks.   But, yeah, it's it's like yeah. It's like, fuck. Fuck.   My memory is way shorter than my pecker is.   I'd be really happy.   But, yeah, seriously, I can't hey. It's it's like   sitting here trying to think about it, and it's like, well, I found it. I'm good. But where did I find it at? I have no freaking clue.   So but, yeah, that's that's something that's something that I wanna try.   You know?   Maybe take my drone out there too and throw the drone up and let it record and   fly it while I'm doing that. You know?  

Right.  

[01:23:18] Duuude-Ron :

That would be awesome. Or or there you go. You could take your take your GoPro,   hang it from the cord,   and and   then   attach that cord to your to your drone,   then you could drag it through the through the water.  

[01:23:34] Rich Chelson:

You know,   That might be possible. I'm not  

[01:23:38] Duuude-Ron :

I'm not sure.  

[01:23:41] Rich Chelson:

I'm not sure. I'm not I'm not sure if my drone   has enough power to do that, though.   I would have to try it on dry land first.  

[01:23:50] Unknown:

Most most definitely.  

[01:23:52] Rich Chelson:

What's that?  

[01:23:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Most definitely.  

[01:23:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because that would suck. You know? Or use a bucket of water,  

[01:24:01] Unknown:

like, a five gallon bucket of water.  

[01:24:04] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   I don't know. I'll I'll be I'll be I'll   I'll be going on some ideas   because,   it was just cool that I found it.  

[01:24:15] Unknown:

That's good.  

[01:24:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I'm   yeah. I I just yeah. I can't wait   to get my Jeep licensed.   Once that happens, then   I'm good.  

[01:24:27] Unknown:

Yep.   So  

[01:24:29] Rich Chelson:

but, yeah, I've got I've got I've got all my batteries charged.   Everything's updated.   I've got all the apps I need.   As far as I know, I'm set to go.  

[01:24:41] Unknown:

Just get your damn teeth whitices, motherfucker.  

[01:24:44] Duuude-Ron :

What's that? Exactly.  

[01:24:46] Rich Chelson:

Well,   I'm waiting on the state of Mississippi.  

[01:24:50] Duuude-Ron :

You sent it to the wrong town again?   So you sent it to the wrong town again? I didn't send it nowhere.  

[01:24:57] Rich Chelson:

The license bureau sent it to Jackson.   I did not send it. I turned it over to the county.   The county is the one that mailed it to Jackson.   Okay.   And   so I am out of it.   I am at the mercy of   the the,   postal system   and the state of Mississippi   right now.  

[01:25:22] Unknown:

That sucks.  

[01:25:24] Rich Chelson:

Righty.   I mean   yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I know the postal system has been   has gotten a lot of letters through, but   how many more have   gone up missing or never showed up?  

[01:25:40] Unknown:

Well,   but And you know it's not that damn hard.  

[01:25:44] Rich Chelson:

No.   No. It's not.   But, you know, the the, postal system is a union, so   they have their union rules.  

[01:25:55] Duuude-Ron :

They do have their union rules. Absolutely.  

[01:25:59] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:26:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I know. Right?   Oh, I got a I I, ordered   a I, ordered a cable for my ham radio to hook up   an external mic too.   So  

[01:26:12] Unknown:

that Oh, did you? Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:26:15] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That thing came in today.   Yeah. I got it for this contest this weekend. Oh, and future contests too. But   Right.   But yeah. Yeah. This way here   I mean, it's,   you know, like like my other cable that I had for my   my my other radio. I just   this solar radio   has a different connector on it is is the reason why   I couldn't use the first cable I had.   So  

[01:26:46] Unknown:

So what is the purpose of this particular   mic   cable or whatever?  

[01:26:53] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know how I use a   I use an external mic. You know, like, now I'm using   I'm using an external mic. I'm not using the laptop microphone.  

[01:27:05] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:27:07] Rich Chelson:

And I've got the handheld mic for the ham radio, but   when I'm running a contest,   the the   the extra mic   normally sounds better and breaks up pile ups better.   It can to a point.   And,   it   it just it just makes it more pleasing to hear.   So and plus, I've got a little hand switch.   So   you know and then I've got   my one hand free. I can I can multitask,   which I shouldn't be doing,   but I do?   But, yeah, I can multitask   while I'm running this contest,   so   it just helps.  

[01:27:53] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Alright then. Yeah.  

[01:27:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:27:59] Rich Chelson:

And, yeah, I'll jump on I'll jump on AM radio tomorrow and make sure everything's still working and running good and   all like that and making sure everything's all set because this contest starts   Saturday morning at 07:00.   So I'll be up probably about five   Saturday morning,   having my coffee   and getting primed and ready, and then I'll then I'll start this contest.  

[01:28:29] Unknown:

And then use that,   use that thing in the back of your head and get jacked in, like, in the matrix.  

[01:28:37] Rich Chelson:

Man, if I had one of those, that'd be fucking awesome.   That would be cool.  

[01:28:42] Duuude-Ron :

That would.  

[01:28:44] Rich Chelson:

I mean, it would be scary, but it it it would it would actually be kinda cool.  

[01:28:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:28:50] Rich Chelson:

That would be awesome to get jacked in and,   shoot, I could run around the Internet   causing havoc.  

[01:28:58] Duuude-Ron :

That sounds like a good point.  

[01:29:01] Unknown:

Yeah. You I could I can see you as a mister Smith.  

[01:29:06] Rich Chelson:

Really? Come on, David. Mister Anderson.   No. Come on now.  

[01:29:13] Unknown:

What? You think you'd be mister Anderson?   Yeah. It'd be Neil. It'd be Neil. Yeah. Neil?  

[01:29:21] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Or Neil.  

[01:29:24] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Yeah. But you don't wanna be Oh, who's Morpheus.   No.   Oh, okay.  

[01:29:32] Rich Chelson:

Well,   I don't know. Maybe.   You know, I could I could find the people and offer them the red or blue pill and you know? Yeah.   Either way, I, yeah, I wouldn't mind being Morpheus either.  

[01:29:45] Unknown:

You're just not mister Smith?  

[01:29:47] Rich Chelson:

No. No. I I I didn't like him.   I just didn't. You know?  

[01:29:55] Unknown:

You just Well, at least at least we know you wouldn't go into the network and tear try to tear shit up.  

[01:30:02] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. Oh, hell no. I love the network   sometimes.  

[01:30:09] Duuude-Ron :

Well, as long as you weren't cipher,   go off and everybody   for a for a steak.  

[01:30:16] Unknown:

True.   Yeah. No. I wouldn't a beer.  

[01:30:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:30:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. I wouldn't do that.   No. I could yeah. No. I couldn't do that, man. That's   just that's just wrong.  

[01:30:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is.  

[01:30:32] Unknown:

Well, you can always be mouse and write code.  

[01:30:35] Rich Chelson:

Be what?  

[01:30:37] Duuude-Ron :

Mouse. Yeah. You could go with mouse and program the program the lady in red.  

[01:30:42] Unknown:

Oh. You know?  

[01:30:44] Duuude-Ron :

It makes money too.  

[01:30:47] Rich Chelson:

That would be cool.  

[01:30:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because he sells the sells time individual time with the with the lady in red.  

[01:30:55] Unknown:

Yeah. What what was he called? The virtual pimp?  

[01:30:59] Duuude-Ron :

Or something like that. Yeah.  

[01:31:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   No. I'm starting to practice more Christmas music because Christmas is coming up.  

[01:31:09] Duuude-Ron :

Do it.  

[01:31:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yep. I got I got what child is this.  

[01:31:14] Duuude-Ron :

And Yeah. Greensleeves is always good. Yeah. And plated in I mean,   I didn't do half bad, to be honest with you, for first time ever. No. It's actually a really easy yeah. It's a a fairly easy song to play.   Yeah. At least with your right hand.  

[01:31:34] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I mean I mean, my, my left hand is getting a lot stronger than what it was.   So   Yep.   You know, it's   a couple of my classical pieces,   I'm still I'm still   having a hard time fingering on, but with the fingering   on my left hand, but,   you know, it's everything is coming along.  

[01:31:56] Unknown:

Yep. Yes. We can. Because your right hand dominant, you gotta train your brain to be both dominant.  

[01:32:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Ambidextrous.  

[01:32:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. But, see, that's the thing. This is   here's the funny thing about all this.   I'm a southpaw,   but I'm right hand dominant in a lot of things.   And just like on, piano,   I'm right hand dominant.   And so, yeah,   trying to get my left hand   to do what I want when I want it and to play with   and separately with my right hand. Oh my god.  

[01:32:35] Duuude-Ron :

To play in harmony with the with your left hand is a is a or with your right hand is a is a trick and a half.  

[01:32:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And and you see, that's the thing. Like like, with Furry Leaves,   you've got the the left hand has to play   separate notes from the right hand.  

[01:32:54] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:32:55] Rich Chelson:

They have to be meshed in time together.   And, like, I've got another classical piece. It's a,   Japanese piece.   And,   it,   the left hand   the notes are easy.   It's just timing because it's like   like, on like, on one section,   I've got I gotta hit a g d a   b.   And   when I hit   that b with my left hand, I've gotta be hitting I think it's an f sharp   at the same time with my right hand.   Right. So  

[01:33:31] Duuude-Ron :

trying to get do you normally practice?   What's that? How do you normally practice?   What do you mean?   Well, I mean, are you   because, I mean, if you're if you're struggling   with with because a lot of times,   playing music is muscle memory. Right?   Yeah. You do most of the work when you're first learning. You're like, okay. How do you do   Okay. Nope.   Nope.   Nope. No. No. No. No. No. You gotta get your get around where you can go that.   So you you your fingers eventually   will  

[01:34:09] Unknown:

will move on their own. So  

[01:34:12] Duuude-Ron :

one of the I never actually had formal training, but the way I would get around to doing it is I would get the right hand down,   and I would usually use yeah. I mean, I   my sister was in piano lessons, so I   so we had a metronome that we'd sit there and listen to have, and so you'd get it to tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick. And so I could get my get the beat down. And so to do the left hand, I actually would sit there and work through   the   work through the, the with the left hand. I would sit there and just   got an hour through it   until I could kinda start hearing the rhythm that I needed to have with them with that, with the left hand. And then I start up with the metronomes   going slower until I got up to the set that I to the speed that I wanted, and I would just practice that.  

You know? It'd be like Yeah. Well two hours of of left hand just until my left hand was like, crap. But I'm gonna.  

[01:35:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. I've gotta,   I've gotta work more   more with my my my metronome.   I mean, I've been working with it, but I also haven't been working with it. And and, I mean, I can play them I can play these songs and hear the melodies.   So so I've got the tunes down in my head. I just gotta work with the metronome   and Right.   You know, get smoother with it. That's   I don't and I don't know why, but I just   me and a metronome   just   Don't jive.   Yeah.   But the thing is, I need a metronome. I need I need I need   to force myself to get through it. You know what I mean?   So that's, I mean, that's something I'm I'm working on.  

So,   yeah, it's I don't know.  

[01:36:06] Duuude-Ron :

So   what do y'all think of the, of the the Texas flood?  

[01:36:11] Unknown:

Yeah. That   you know what the Democrats think that Texas   think about the Texas flood?  

[01:36:20] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. They think Trump somehow made the made it rain. I mean,   they've they've they've found every way possible to try to blame Trump for it.   They are blaming Trump. Yeah. Because They're trying, but they're it's not working right well. That  

[01:36:37] Unknown:

because of his   federal   job cuts,   that there wasn't enough people in   the federal emergency management   system   to,   you know, give a   prediction   for the aspect of, you know, the long grain perspective.   But  

[01:37:01] Duuude-Ron :

it was Right. I can't say it was Yeah. I'm hearing you clapping about it. It was like yeah. Yeah. It's it it it's as absurd as it sounds. Yeah.   Yeah. Get more people to guess wrong.  

[01:37:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Well and here's the thing.   There was actually more staff   than usually   required   at that particular moment   that was already there.  

[01:37:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because they had to hurt,   was tropical storm   berry?   I think that's what what it was. They were having the remnants of it passing over.  

[01:37:37] Unknown:

Well, and this   all this rain is the remnants of   a tropical storm.   Yeah. Which one it was? I don't know. Is that was it Barry? Yeah. I think it was Barry or something like that. So but when it rains   when it rains 10 to 12 inches in a matter   of three to four hours,   where is that water gonna go?   Wherever   the fuck it wants to go. It's gonna go downhill.  

[01:38:06] Duuude-Ron :

And it all slammed in together, and so you had   27   feet.   The the the Guadalupe,   my one of my favorite rivers in all of Texas   rose 27   feet in forty   five minutes, and they're going, well, see, that's Trump's fault. Those girls,   Scott's died. They're in the flood plains.   Well, no shit. They're in the flood plains. Everybody   in on the Guadalupe River wants to be in the flood plains.   Trying to say, like, that's something horrible. Yeah. Is it gonna flood? Has it flooded before? Oh, yeah. It flooded   it missed it multiple times.   The difference is is that it wasn't within forty five minutes at 27   feet.  



[01:38:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Exactly.   And they showed a video of a guy being   on a bridge, and I don't know where it was at and or which river it was.   But you could see   the start of, you   know, that the push wave  

[01:39:09] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[01:39:10] Unknown:

At the very beginning.   And within two   minutes,   that river was   12 times   the width   in two minutes.   How can you do anything   to avoid that?  

[01:39:29] Duuude-Ron :

No. You can't. And that's the and I'm sure I'm sure any if we have any any   any liberal environmentalist   listeners,   I'm sure they're screaming at their at their, radio right now, but it's like, no. There there's nothing you could do about that. No. You can sit there and try to   say, oh, well, you can be prepared. Well, to a point, yes, you can be prepared.   There were more people in on staff at the, at the meteorological   institutes than normal.   But at the same time, you still could not prepare the the fact that there was going to be   that much rain dumped in that amount of time   and been able to say, hey. Here in about four hours, you're going, y'all need to go ahead and evacuate now because here in about four hours, you're gonna have a you're gonna have a flood of epic proportions come through.  

And there was enough where enough water   was in the Guadalupe   that it that it raised   the Raised Canyon Lake   something like I think it's, like, 20 feet   in a twenty four hour period.  

[01:40:37] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:40:38] Duuude-Ron :

And Canyon Lake is not a small lake.   It went from being 40, like, 48%   full to 60%.   Almost 20 per it it raised it that much.   Yeah. It was 60% full. At the last time I checked, which was   on, like, Monday or Tuesday  

[01:41:01] Unknown:

in less in less than   twelve hours.  

[01:41:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, yeah, you know, well, I know it was within a twenty four hour period because that's what what they on a daily   basis, they report the, they chart the, the   the with the water levels of, Canyon Lake   because And here  

[01:41:21] Unknown:

and if I'm not mistaken,   it was   getting to be nightfall when this  

[01:41:28] Duuude-Ron :

it was already nightfall. It it was in the middle of the night.  

[01:41:32] Unknown:

Yeah. So how are you gonna prepare   when everybody's asleep?   Yeah. That's   it's it's an   it's a tragedy   of the amount of people that lost their lives.   But   in turn,   it is not something   that was   that could be predicted   like that   Right. Because of the amount of rain.   Because you don't know which way   anything is gonna flow.  

[01:42:06] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.  

[01:42:07] Unknown:

So it but it just happened to be that   it overflowed the blank banks and just   did a huge amount of flooding.   Yeah.   So   no. You cannot   predict that to  

[01:42:24] Duuude-Ron :

Any degree of certainty.  

[01:42:26] Unknown:

Exactly.   Yeah. But, of course,   the Democrats are always gonna say that everything   is   Trump's fault   always.  

[01:42:37] Duuude-Ron :

Everything's Trump's fault, and you can fix it with throwing more money at it.  

[01:42:41] Unknown:

Yes. Of course.   You know,   they just need to   get over the fact that they   they are not in control.   But in turn,   they need to do something to get   a collective   just to get fucking their people on the same sheet of music.   That'll never happen. Yeah. You're yeah. You're right. That'll probably never happen.  

[01:43:13] Duuude-Ron :

It'd be nice if it would, though. I mean, it just gets them it would be great.   I mean, if anything, I mean, they just they they've gotta figure out   and and figure out that the message that they're using   saying that America sucks as much as they do and that everything's everything's going to hell in a hand basket   doesn't work. The Republicans tried it for a long time.   That's the reason why one of the reasons why Clinton was in was was able to become president.   Was Clinton a Republican?   No. Clinton's Democrat. He was Democrat.   He he got he got he became president,   after Bush's   first term because Bush went off and famously said no more taxes and then raised taxes.  

He fell for a a a   the the classic trick that because, I mean,   Reagan did the same thing. Reagan raised taxes, was tricked into raising taxes because the democrats had told him, hey. We'll   we'll we'll do this one thing if you'll if you'll increase taxes here. And so he was like, oh, let's raise taxes. And then they were like, yeah. We ain't doing that shit. You're fucking crazy, man.   And so they they called on the deal, and   and and so yeah. That's and basically did the same thing to, to Bush senior.  

[01:44:34] Rich Chelson:

And see, that's the thing. I mean, honestly,   Clinton was,   if you ask me, a middle of the road Democrat.   Yeah. No. He was. He was he was a little left of center, but not not too far. And I honestly, I didn't mind him.   You know?   Now   but and but that's   I mean, but   his wife and all these other Democrats, they are nowhere near.   They are nowhere near the center.   It's crazy.  

[01:45:12] Unknown:

Oh, and here here you go.   So   the Clinton Foundation   received all these grants   and monies from   USA.  

[01:45:26] Duuude-Ron :

USAID. Yeah.  

[01:45:27] Unknown:

Yeah. Okay.   And   when they   questioned   Hillary   and   whatever the fuck her husband's name is, Bill. Bill.   Yeah.   You know what they really.  

[01:45:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You know what they said about the improprieties  

[01:45:45] Unknown:

of the funds?  

[01:45:47] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know what you're   talking   about.  

[01:45:52] Unknown:

No. They they said, go talk to Chelsea. She's the president.  

[01:45:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Through her daughter. And through the yeah. Under the under the bus.  

[01:46:01] Unknown:

Through her so far up underneath the bus.   Man,  

[01:46:06] Rich Chelson:

that's just cruel. That's what they do, dude. Yep.   They have no love in their heart. None.  

[01:46:13] Unknown:

Yeah. But,   throw their kid underneath the bus like that   well and okay. Yeah.   She got thrown underneath the bus, but I guarantee you,   she knows where the money went.  

[01:46:27] Rich Chelson:

We'll never find out,  

[01:46:29] Unknown:

though. In her pocket.  

[01:46:31] Rich Chelson:

It'll never be proven. None of this shit will ever be proven.  

[01:46:35] Unknown:

You're right. It won't be.   But maybe when they   don't get all the US   ID USAID   and all that other shit   yeah.   Hope   hopefully, some of their shit dries up.  

[01:46:54] Duuude-Ron :

Well, at least it'll dry up a little for a little bit.  

[01:46:57] Unknown:

Yeah.   Small Rose is gonna,   you know, step in   and whatever gets lost from the government aspects,   he'll just, you know, slide it over from his.   That's why the Democrats,   you know,   always trying to get the black vote, the Hispanic vote,   Asian vote.  

[01:47:19] Duuude-Ron :

Black vote's starting to realize. Oh, well, the correction.   There's a portion of the black vote that has   woke up and realized. The   the the the the ghetto   cultured   ghetto culture   black community   hasn't gotten it yet. They're   they're the ones that are that are throwing that are causing their you know,   still causing all the problems.   They're the ones that are going off getting   getting m p three, or not m p three, getting   Bluetooth speakers. I mean,   carnival   has gotten power double,   and they banned, they banned quite a few things on on their, on their ships now   because of the ghetto culture,   because they've had people who   huge groups of black people who have gone off and just gotten into brawls   on their ship, on the docks of the ship.  

There was a group of, like, 28 people that got left left behind over in, I think, Bimini   in The Bahamas.   They were said they were told, it's like, nope. Nope. You you're not allowed to come back on on the ship.   You can figure out how to get your ass home.  

[01:48:37] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:48:38] Duuude-Ron :

Because they had a huge fight   on the deck of   the deck of the ship.   They've had several instances of just   these groups of of   of ghetto minded people who just   go through and and have these monster balls on ships. And   you've got you've got the   the black American   cultured people who are going, dude, we're not part of this. This is not us. These rancid ass   ghetto minded folks are   are not you know, this is not us,   and they're doing everything they can to kinda   distance themselves from   the folks who like to run into seven elevens and take as much as they can and and run out.  

[01:49:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:49:29] Duuude-Ron :

And, you know, they're they're the these the ghetto minded folks are the ones who are causing, you know, even the even the luxury stores in in LA to close and to leave and go, yeah. You know what? We're not messing with this.   Wall Walmart's trying to book well, there were several months ago, there was actually a a   a city council member in LA who was act actually wanting to make it illegal for   grocery stores to close   because   their people   their their representatives   the people they were representing were rushing into those stores,   grabbing baskets full of of of food and and   other bullshit,   running out into the in the parking lot, throwing everything they possibly can in the back of the car and driving off.  

Yeah.   And so people are going and the stores are going, you know what? We're losing so much money there. We We can't keep it open. We're not you can't justify having a having a store here. And so they close-up the stores. And everybody's like, well, why did you do that to us? Well, we gotta be able to make money, and they think that's   some type of evil capital,   capitalistic idea. It's like, no.   You're not gonna work at a job   where you have to pay to go to work.   And that's what's happening when you have to   pay taxes   and you've got a loss leader and own as anything that's ain't nailed down.  

You're gonna you're gonna end up having you know, you're gonna end up losing so much money. You're gonna realize, hey. It's not worth   working at some place because I am losing money working there.   I mean, that's the reason why I had to change jobs because I wasn't making enough money.   So to actually go off and where I would was doing nothing but losing more money, you know,   having to pay more than I was getting paid   would have been, yeah, would have been ludicrous. Of course, I would've should be changing jobs.   Now granted, I wasn't I wasn't actually doing that. I just wasn't   making enough to to get the bills under control.  

Right. But   but, yeah, all these the folks in the in California are going, yeah. You know what? No. You should be they should be have to stay there   and provide a service for   for the members of the, that community.   And that's no.   That that is that is a the very definition of suicide.   And   they were wanting to come up with some way of I don't know how they were planning on enforcing it.   But if they, if company,   closed, then somebody they were going to they had to, had to keep it open. If they were saying that they were gonna need to close, they had to keep it open and and find someone else to buy it. Well, if it's a if it's a lot losing game, no one's gonna buy it.   Yeah. Like   so   but it's, it's just one of those   wouldn't make a make a hill of beans of sense to   to   to   to do that. But yet,   a lot of the folks, especially, like I said, the ghetto minded people   want to go off and   act like they're the victim   for their own action.  

Yeah.   Watching now what was it   TikTok video that was   basically about this young lady who was who has the oversized   baker's hat on.   And   she and she   was, you know,   she was being told that she was getting arrested because she walked out of the store with a whole bunch of support of makeup. And she's like, well, I'll just pay for it. It's like, no. Sorry. But it's too late. You had a chance to pay for it when you were in the store.   You all said chance the moment you walked out the store with it.   And she was like the whole time, she was trying to break down in tears. She was like, oh, but I can't. I've already got, got   got in trouble once. If I get in trouble again, I lose my, I lose my scholarship. I can't go to college. And the police was like, well, nothing I can do for you. And she was still trying to pin it on me on on the, on the police.  

You just wanna keep me pinned down. She you think I was, like, going   no. I didn't force you to steal.   Well, I said I'd pay for it. It's like, no. That's too late. Now you have to be held accountable for your actions.   And it was just something that they can't understand.   They've been told that they are victims for so long that   they believe it,   And they they   they don't, they don't,   it's gonna be take a long time of learning   for them to realize, oh, wait a minute. You know, for people to accept us back in into the the folds because, I mean,   they   they they they want   everyone to to bow down to them.  

And if you don't do what they want, then they throw huge old shit fits.   But yet, you know,   they don't want they wanna have the ability to set the rules   and change the rules when all of a sudden their their decisions don't,   coincide with what they want,   want to happen.  

[01:54:51] Rich Chelson:

See, that's the thing.   What these young people are learning is that the world doesn't give a shit about them.  

[01:54:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And they've been told their whole life that, oh, you you've been taken advantage of. You've been   you're you're you're you're disadvantaged.   No. No. Sadly, it's   or fortunately, actually,   you're not disadvantaged.   Even if you were born poor and black, if you wanna be   rich   and have all the freedoms that you dream of,   you actually can get that. Now you talk to anybody on Reddit and you would say you would think, I just said the   I just uttered the the worst probable lie in the world   because they were seeing, because they all think that   that the game's rigged somehow,   but yet they can't explain why some people from who are coming in legally   as immigrants   turn around and become rich   within just a generation.  



[01:55:54] Rich Chelson:

Well, you see, it's not hard.  

[01:55:57] Duuude-Ron :

No. These  

[01:55:59] Rich Chelson:

these  

[01:56:01] Duuude-Ron :

It's not easy, but it's not it's not hard either.  

[01:56:04] Rich Chelson:

No. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, anything takes work.   And you see, that's the whole thing.   These people that are bitching,   they just don't wanna work. They want someone to hand them $20,000,000   so they can do what they want because   they think the world owes them.   And the world doesn't because the world doesn't care about you, me, dude, anybody else.   No. Does not give two fucks.  

[01:56:31] Unknown:

No. They don't. Anything  

[01:56:33] Rich Chelson:

except itself.   And the sooner   people start realizing that, and I'm talking even us old farts.   You know?   As soon as we start realizing that,   trust me,   life gets a lot fucking easier.   But Absolutely.   What do I know? I'm just no fat boy who likes to eat.  

[01:56:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   You know? And you try to say something like that to, to other people, you know, to the people who got   that type of mindset.   And   their thought the first thing they usually reply with is, well, where's your $2,000,000?   And   the answer is I be I haven't earned it yet, but at the same time, I haven't   honestly, haven't been willing to take the necessary actions   needed to be able to make that $2,000,000.  

[01:57:31] Rich Chelson:

But but hold it hold it here. Okay? Alright. Alright. Let me play let me play a little devil's advocate.   Why do you need   $2,000,000   to be considered   accomplished or rich   when actually it only takes $750,000   to be in the 1%.  

[01:57:53] Duuude-Ron :

Ma'am, because well, that in America. Just because that's an arbitrary number. You say a million dollars and most people think, oh, you're a millionaire.   Millionaires have a little bit of prestige to it.  

[01:58:04] Rich Chelson:

You know,   people   making $5,600,000   a year   have just as much freedom and shit as as someone making a million. Hell, yeah.   Someone who who who makes   60 or 70,000   a year   can have the same freedom. You don't need   six,   seven, eight digits   to be happy and have freedom.   Freedom's all in your fucking mind. Yeah. Absolutely. No. You But but the thing is no one wants to fucking   use   it. Everyone wants to sit there and bitch and moan and groan and whine and complain.  

[01:58:42] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. Because that's easier.  

[01:58:44] Rich Chelson:

Change your fucking mindset.   You can be happy with a whole lot less   and that and live a more   fulfilling   and productive life.   Damn it, Brian. You got me wound up. Good.  

[01:58:59] Duuude-Ron :

Because we want that's we we need those those wound up times.   But, yeah, I mean, that's   that's the truth as a whole.   We need  

[01:59:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. No. You're right. And, see, that's the thing.   That's not just for   young kids coming up or young adults coming up. That's for old adults too. That's for everybody.   That's for everybody.   I know I've been there. Oh, yeah.   You know?   Yeah. It just I don't know. It just   fucking gets my goat.   Oh, absolutely. People moan and groaning, and whining, bitch, because, oh, I don't have $5,000,000.  

[01:59:41] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I don't have you know, then people who complain that they don't even have $500,000.   Right. Even those types of people, even those who don't you're not going to make   $500,000   with a $30,000   mindset.   You've gotta learn   how to think   like somebody who makes $500,000,   which sounds a bit ethereal. And it's like, well, how do you think that? Well, you'll know how you're how to think that the moment you start making it.   Right. Is is the root with which, again, sounds like the the riddle inside of a riddle,   and it's something that I've puzzled with for for past   seven years.  

But   to there are   particular thoughts. And a good example of this   is when you're stuck in a   scarcity mindset versus a positive mindset.   With this this whole year leading up all the way up to May,   when I was working for Up to Grove,   I was struggling   every single every single pay period,   getting paid once a week,   get paid.   We would go through everything   and have maybe   $50 left over, and that would be what would be get picked over by by the subscriptions like the like   Netflix,   autof auphonic, you know, all the different subscriptions   that you have.  

Yeah. And I was getting paid roughly about, you know, a thousand dollars a week. So   now that I have come over to over to Gore   and I'm getting paid   on the average of about   $1,500   a week,   about $3,000   every two weeks.   I this last last pay period,   got paid roughly about 15.   And somehow through all of that,   I was able to go through,   and   me and Jana went out. We ate,   I think, three different times,   got   $300   worth of groceries,   paid off the set of bills that we would need to pay off   because we've got it broke up to where we pay half,   at the beginning of the month, half at the the next pay period. Right. You know, if there's anything left over that all gets, scraped over into,   into into savings and and things like that.  

But still, at the end of that,   for two weeks,   you know, and all that, we still have   $200   left over.  

[02:02:18] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:02:19] Duuude-Ron :

And that is because   we're now thinking like we make   $3,000   a month every two weeks.  

[02:02:26] Rich Chelson:

Right. So  

[02:02:28] Duuude-Ron :

the bills and the amount   haven't changed.   As a matter of fact, our grocery bill went up this past week because we had to buy extemporaneous   stuff. I had to buy you know, I had to get a a coffee maker. So because   going to going to to   to the   convenience store   to fill up my thermos in my in my coffee cup   was getting through damn it was was eating into the end of the funds.   Right? And so we made all these little changes. I've got I had I've got food   to last me two weeks,   and most of it is I cooked it.   So I've got, you   know, serving bowls,   and   we made   plenty of of of the food. So I've got, I've got three meals that are available. I've and I may hope that was something else I got to do this week. I've I've made my own biscuits for the first time.  

Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, granted, they   I   I'm gonna have to go I I need to buy some more,   some more baking powder. I think my baking powder was expired.   But,   because I know it was old. We hadn't bought baking powder in in, like, four or five years.   And I was like, hey. Put it in there. So I I got I got I got   biscuits that were   just barely taller than   than what they started out being. So Yeah. But but still, you got biscuits.   I got biscuits.   Yeah. I got biscuits, and and so I made some,   I made some, cheater,   gravy and and got some, sausage. And so that's one of my meals. So I got sausage gravy.  

And so gonna have I've got that for a meal. We got stir fry. Just made some homemade stir fry.   You know? It's not near as good as what's, what's what you can get,   at Chinese food restaurant. But, you know, hey. It still it still works. It wears my stomach. It's got a lot of rice in it, so it's you know, I like rice. I enjoy the hell out of rice.   There's you know? So I've got that. I've got we   had Dorito casserole   one night, and that you know, once I break it down, just give half of it to my wife, half of it to me, and then, we had another, meal of, spaghetti.   Right. And, again, spread all that up. And I've got enough food   that I know will at least last me until about halfway through next week.  



[02:04:58] Rich Chelson:

That's cool.  

[02:04:59] Duuude-Ron :

And then on top of that, I went ahead and bought it up stuffed sandwiches that would last me those two weeks too.  

[02:05:05] Rich Chelson:

I   you see you see that's that's the thing right there.   Okay? With this new job and and the and the increase in in pay,   you didn't go out and blow the money. You started   you changed your mindset   about the money. Yeah. That's why that's why you were able to get all this extra stuff.   You know? And, you know, you thought about it, and you said, well, hell. I'm not   you know, going to the gas station to get coffee is kinda stupid. So, yeah, I'll spend $25  

[02:05:39] Duuude-Ron :

on a coffee maker or 10 or whatever works. How much I yeah. Yeah. No. It was, went to, the family Family Dollar store here and Okay. Spent spent $25.  

[02:05:51] Rich Chelson:

Hey. But see, that's the thing. You changed your mindset about the whole thing, and that's actually gonna   make it a whole lot better in the long run.   And and and the thing is, you still you have everything you need plus a little more,   and you still have money left over.   See, that's how   that right there,   that is how you can get ahead.   But a lot of people can't fucking see that   because they're like, oh, I gotta have this. I gotta have this. I gotta have this certain brand of shit. I gotta have this. No.   Just   I mean, the store brands are pretty much the same as the name brands. The only difference is   the name brands   market it better.  

They put new, improved,   you know,   all these little words and, like, best choice and always safe,   they they just sit on the shelf.  

[02:06:47] Duuude-Ron :

Well, actually, I will I will call you. I I will I will let you know. Did you not hear that Del Monte is filing for bankruptcy?  

[02:06:55] Rich Chelson:

No. What?  

[02:06:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Del Monte is is   filing I think it's chapter 11.  

[02:07:02] Rich Chelson:

Who is buying who is buying Del Monte?  

[02:07:06] Unknown:

The hell is no one.  

[02:07:07] Rich Chelson:

What?   I used to I used to,   you know, load up quite a bit at freaking   freaking Del Monte when in the nineties.  

[02:07:18] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.   You know? Good. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Get the get the Del Monte green beans and corn and   yeah. No. Apparently, no one's no one's buying Del Monte anymore.   Why? I mean, it's it's the same If I had to guess, that it'd be because of the price.  

[02:07:36] Rich Chelson:

Well, it very well could be. Yeah.  

[02:07:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. People are getting tired of spending $4 for a can of green beans   or however much it costs.   Right. Right. We go through. We find find the,   great value, and it's like, if you if you hit it right, it'll even at Walmart, you can find you can find green beans and black eyed peas and stuff for and spinach for   a dollar 25.  

[02:08:03] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shoot. Go to Ramey's right up the road here from my house. I can I can still get canned goods   for, 6 For dollars? Cents a can. Oh, no. Really?  

[02:08:13] Duuude-Ron :

Fuck yeah, dude. Holy shit. Yeah. I may have to go ahead and just blow the, the money I'd saved and just drive the on over there.   Right. Just so I can say, I bought it for 69¢,   man.  

[02:08:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's that's that's that's   an amount that that you don't hear too often. But yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Ramey's up here. They   they run they run a lot of their canned goods.   Yeah. You know, it's it's not no name brand, but it's, yeah, 69¢   can for green bean, corn,   whatever. You know?   Oh, yeah. It's it's fucking awesome, man.   So So that is awesome.   Yeah. Yeah. I stock up on that stuff.   Because you see, that's the thing. When you're hungry,   you ain't got no food because I've had this happen. I've been without a job.   I didn't. And and and all I had to eat   was the canned goods that I had stored up over time.  

Mhmm. And 90% of that shit was out of date.  

[02:09:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Well,   they they claimed it was out of date, but most time, canned goods will last you about five years.   Dude, I was eating As long as I was eating long as you don't eat the the you know, it it's gotta be the the well put together,   cans. I mean, these days I mean, good god.   Go to Walmart, and it's like   all their damn cans. It's like someone went through and took a baseball bat to all their cans.   It's like hard to find a can that doesn't have a dent in it.  

[02:09:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But yeah. But see, that's the thing, though. I mean I mean, just because it's   damaged and dented   doesn't mean   it's bad.  

[02:10:03] Duuude-Ron :

No. That'd mean that it's bad.   But at the same time, if you're going to have,   storage foods, you're gonna store canned foods,   You don't want the dented because there could be a micro   crack in that in that can   for   for,   for, like, botulism toxin, botulism   to get into the can and start   and start producing.  

[02:10:30] Rich Chelson:

You see, that's I mean I mean, when I, you know, open a can if it's dented and stuff like that, I mean, I look at it when I'm spooning the shit out. So if it's bad, I'll throw it out. But I'm doing that. No. I won't. You know? I mean Oh, no. I   No. I See that shit that shit, I don't   I don't worry about that stuff   because I know   my   my inspection process when I go to use that.   And if it's bad, then I throw it away. Right.  

[02:11:02] Duuude-Ron :

If that tastes right, then you know what? You're not gonna eat another spoonful of it if it tastes off.   No. I'm not. I mean, I as much as I hate to throw Unless you starve to death, and then you might go ahead and just cook it longer and then then try eating it. Well, yeah. This is true.  

[02:11:20] Rich Chelson:

This is true. It depends.   But yeah. No. It's,   but, yeah, you see, that's the thing. Most of that shit, I don't I don't I don't never worry about it,   especially with canned goods. Right. But   about the only thing   that I really   worry about dates on is milk.  

[02:11:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And I still trust my nose on that. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Oh, yeah. Yep. The buttermilk biscuits I used, the buttermilk was expired by four days, but you smell it, and it was like, well, it smells like buttermilk. So Right.  

[02:11:54] Rich Chelson:

No. You and and you see, that's the thing. A lot of times,   milk will go   past its its date that's on the on the on the container, but I've also had some milk   that oh my god. And the one that they had said,   it instantly  

[02:12:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I heard almost like clapboard.  

[02:12:14] Rich Chelson:

I was like, what the hell?  

[02:12:17] Duuude-Ron :

Now something else. I wanna see if you've noticed this   or if it's just some or if it's something that Walmart's doing.   What are the conditions of your potatoes?  

[02:12:27] Rich Chelson:

What do you mean?  

[02:12:29] Duuude-Ron :

Well, past   Jaylen and I have been talking about this for the past couple weeks, and then maybe it's just confirmation bias that's that's fueling this.   But   first off,   how big of potatoes do you normally find?   Yeah. Medium size normally. Okay. You know, but, you know, the great big bacon potatoes that we used to be able to get? Yeah.   Haven't seen those in in years.  

[02:12:54] Rich Chelson:

No.   You won't.  

[02:12:56] Duuude-Ron :

So you're missing one, we're missing the great big potatoes. Now the little the medium sized potatoes that you're talking about,   yeah, you get a five pound bag of those. That's not normally not, not that big of a problem. Except for the fact that those five pound bag of potatoes,   I'm usually throwing two out because I'll go to grab it and my thumb will stick through it.   And then when I'm cutting through it, there's I'll usually find some, you know, some spot in it where it's all dark black and nasty looking. And so you have to cut that out,   or at least I do. I'm not brave enough to eat those. I eat that part of the potato.  

I mean  

[02:13:34] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:13:34] Unknown:

But so  

[02:13:36] Duuude-Ron :

but I'm it used to be, you know, you'd go through a bag of potato, and you might have one that has a little bad spot.   Yeah. I've noticed several times I've gone through a whole bag of potatoes and not had a single bad spot.   Right.   I've been pulling out, you know,   four, five, six, seven, eight potatoes   and have to cut a bad spot out of it.  

[02:13:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And then you see that's that's not that's not any   any brand or so. That's the farm where they get them from.  

[02:14:06] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So yeah. So that's one of the farms. Yeah. I'm putting one on blast, w a d a. I've shot even shot him a tweet. Well, what's up with the pound?  

[02:14:15] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   But yeah. No. That because, yeah, you're right. Because that's the thing. Taters   well   well   well, we used to,   grow our own taters. So, I mean, we were used to bad spots every once in a while. You know? Uh-huh.   And stuff like that. But,   yeah, the ones in the store I mean, these down here, they ain't too bad, really. You don't find many bad spots.   I mean, I don't know exactly where they get them because they don't look at the label.  

[02:14:45] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:14:46] Rich Chelson:

I I just know   when I've bought taters,   because, we can get the red taters, the seed taters. Right. You know, regular taters or whatnot.   They're all they're all fairly in good shape. They're not beat up and bruised up. Because down here well, you know, down here,   hater's corn,   shrimp, or seafood   is a is the three staples. Staples.   Right.   So  

[02:15:13] Duuude-Ron :

K. When was the last time you had a watermelon or not a watermelon, a a cantaloupe that actually smelled good?  

[02:15:19] Rich Chelson:

Now that's been a while.  

[02:15:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Why?  

[02:15:23] Rich Chelson:

I think I well, I think it's because of the way they're growing, to be honest with you.  

[02:15:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it's it's something it's something   I mean, yeah, there were you never got, like, farmers, you know, like, farmers market cantaloupes   type of smell where you would buy three and you stick them in the car. And by the time you got   around the car got in the driver's side, you the the the whole car smell like cantaloupe?  

[02:15:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. It's it's been years since I've had that smell.   I would love that. You know?  

[02:15:54] Duuude-Ron :

But, I mean, that's how you used to be able to tell, you know, store bought   cantaloupes.   The ones that were gonna be the best tasting, you'd sit there and smell the the stem.   Smell alright. That smells like cantaloupe. No. No.   That's like a damn honeydew. It's like it's just the no flavor,   no smell.   It's just kind of this pinkish orange color that cantaloupes look like, and that's all there is to it.   Just these flavorless   items. I don't know what I don't know if it's just   out of grown or   if,   or what.  

[02:16:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See, I'm not sure, honestly.   I am not sure about that.   That's actually a you know, I actually never thought about that. Now   one thing I noticed down here   when I was looking at the   flyer from Ramey's,   and I didn't buy one or nothing.   Now up north,   you cannot,   period, cannot   find a seeded   watermelon.  

[02:16:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We did watermelon. We're really freaking hard to find. Absolutely.  

[02:17:02] Rich Chelson:

Not down here.   Not down here, dude.  

[02:17:06] Duuude-Ron :

They sell all they've got all black diamonds and and and yellow meats and stuff.  

[02:17:11] Rich Chelson:

Yes, sir. Oh, wow.  

[02:17:13] Duuude-Ron :

They got the seeds down here. Yeah. You cut them in half, and it's just a curly cube of seed seed columns on oh god. See, that's I mean, yes. Seeds are can be a kind of a pain in the ass,   but it's also part of the prime. It's grabbing a big old hunk of of watermelon and then just   Exactly. Choo choo choo choo.  

[02:17:36] Rich Chelson:

Exactly. And   that's that's the whole thing. You know? Right.   But yeah. No. It's   yeah. Because   when I saw that flyer   and they were advertising   the the the seeded watermelons, I I just had to stare at it because that's the first time in probably twenty years   I've seen a seeded watermelon.  

[02:18:00] Duuude-Ron :

You know? That they actually used it as a marketing angle.   You can sip seeded watermelons.   Sweet.  

[02:18:07] Rich Chelson:

You know? And I'm just like, oh my god.   This is crazy. You know? I'm like I mean, I didn't buy one because, I mean, again, it's just me. So   Yeah.   You know?   Yeah. It just it just kinda   you know? I mean, I like watermelon, but I can't eat a whole one by myself.  

[02:18:26] Duuude-Ron :

Sure. You can. You're just peeing a lot.  

[02:18:29] Rich Chelson:

Right.   I mean, I would get I would get sick and tired of watermelon.  

[02:18:33] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[02:18:37] Rich Chelson:

But but yeah. No. It just yeah. So, yeah, if you want seeded watermelons,  

[02:18:42] Duuude-Ron :

come down here. Oh, go to a farmer's market.   Actually, here, Janice is supposed to be going over with a friend of hers,   over to Rush Springs, which kinda they kinda call themselves at least Oklahoma's watermelon capital.   Uh-huh. And so they have a big watermelon festival and stuff, and I think they're gonna go over to Rush Springs and go grab some, some some watermelons there,  

[02:19:05] Rich Chelson:

which would be awesome.   That's cool.  

[02:19:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I thought so. I was like, hell yeah, man.   Sit there and eat watermelons while I'm going down the road. Let the let the camera sit there and bitch at me about being distracted.   It does. It that damn I have a hate relation hate hate relationship, that damn thing. Because I was today, it dinged me twice because I was   adjusting the the the temperature because   it started out you know, we've had, you know, almost 100 degree temperatures   today. And so I was in the truck and started taking off, and I was, like, driving. I was like, you know, I'm a little warm.   And so I was   turned off the, the automatic   the auto temperature bill and turned the, made sure everything was turned up. And while I was turning that, it was   distracted.  

I was like, no. I ain't distracted, asshole.   I'm just flipping the control.   So I drove a little bit more, and I was like, oh, still not cool enough. And I looked down, and I hit the hit the the recirculator, so it kept the just the cabin air circulating.   I'm getting distracted. I was like, fuck you.   Goddamn. I'm not distracted. I know what I'm doing. Hell, I only was looking for maybe a second and a half. I'm fine.   It's like, gee.  

[02:20:23] Rich Chelson:

That's funny.   That is funny.  

[02:20:26] Duuude-Ron :

So what you I get the only thing I'd be able to figure out that you could do is you can look   at the control,   but keep both hands on the steering wheel.   And then   reach out and hit the, using your peripheral vision, hit the button you wanna hit.   But if you look and hit the button at the same time, it's gonna ding at you.  

[02:20:47] Rich Chelson:

So   so so so you need to learn how to do it   with your mind?  

[02:20:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That'll put a can put a put a mirror up in the top   left hand corner of the windshield so I can   use the reflection to tell where I'm at.   Because as long as I'm looking forward,   forward direction,   it doesn't care. I can sit there and fuck around on my phone while driving down the road all day long.   Not a damn thing.  

[02:21:16] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[02:21:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Now if I take the phone off and I hold it in my hand,   it's pretty damn quick to go put phone away. And so yes, ma'am. Sorry. Okay.   Did that once because I had a had a   a a,   pig butcher   shoot a text going, hey. I'm in the hospital. And I was like, what? And I looked at it, and about that time I looked at it, it was ding, put phone down. It's like, shit. And so I pulled over and looked and then grabbed the phone and looked again. I was like, I don't know the number. Don't know any of that. So I texted Lexi real quick. I was like, you're everything alright? She's like, yeah. Texted Janet. Are you everything alright? Yeah. Text Jaden. Yeah.   Done wrong. So   oh, let me see what the what these guys need real quick. But but, yeah, would not wouldn't ended up not being anything with us.  



[02:22:09] Rich Chelson:

That's cool.   So, dude, are you asleep?  

[02:22:13] Unknown:

No. Just listening.  

[02:22:15] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Okay.   I didn't know he was being off quiet.  

[02:22:21] Unknown:

Oh, well, yeah.   It's it's I think this particular podcast   is,   just a   meditating   on you guys'   back and forth.  

[02:22:35] Rich Chelson:

That's so scary.  

[02:22:37] Duuude-Ron :

So what is what are your what are your thoughts on what we were talking about?  

[02:22:41] Unknown:

I don't have any thoughts.   Remember, that shit that shit's dangerous.   So in going back to everything   of what I was originally going to say   is   what   party   was the greatest number of slave owners?   Democrats?   Democrats.   So   they wanted to control them back in the eighteen hundreds,   and they still wanna control them today.   Yeah. And it's all about them   trying to control the minor minorities.   That has been there for   a hundred and fucking fifty years   now. Absolutely. That. Any longer than that, actually.  

[02:23:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. You know, they they when the the   during   the,   you had them during the during the slaves. That's why the k what the k k k was. It was the, it was the military wing of the Democrat party.   Yep.   And, when they saw that the, you know, the Republicans went off and pushed   for   for their,   for their freedom,   and so they and when they won that,   you know, they weren't too happy with it.   Yep. But then you, turn around and   one of the they still tried to you know, that's something that a lot of people   have a, have a trouble actually understanding is when you tell them what Juneteenth actually is about.   Like, a delegation of Republicans had to go into Texas and tell the Democrat tell their tell the Democrat slaves   that they were actually free. They didn't have to work.  



[02:24:30] Unknown:

Yep. So   I don't know.  

[02:24:33] Duuude-Ron :

And then,   who was actually,   who was actually fighting against   what the Republicans were doing in the sixties? Then the civil rights movement?   It was the you know, that's the Republicans were trying to, give blacks break the   Jim Crow laws because the Jim Crow laws were created, during   Woodrow Wilson there.   Yep.   And the only time that the the time that the Democrats actually started   started   producing   or gathering a whole bunch of of blacks back   under back under their influence   was during, LBJ.   And he he was actually what he did the worst thing possible and decimated the black family.   Because all of a sudden, you had the great society, and the great society was saying, hey. Uncle Sam's gonna be your rich uncle from now on. You don't need it. You don't need to actually marry that that guy that got you pregnant.  

You don't need to just rely on rely on uncle Sam, and, and we'll,   we'll get you taken care of.   And, the sad thing is is that,   you know, the the black American family   was actually 20 cent 20%   I think they said it's 20%,   or 20% of the, I forget exactly how they they were more   without because I don't know what the 20% of what.   But   they get when they when they a black a   black American family   was oh, that's coyote. Damn.   I was like, what the hell is there in the road?   Black American family was actually   more successful   than   white American families.  

But there were more   white American families that were under the poverty line   versus black American families.   Yeah. But yet all of a sudden, yet when you had along came the the gray society   and destroyed the black American family,   and all of a sudden, everybody's depended upon uncle Sam for handouts,   things have become   worse   for for the for the blacks, and they keep turning   to the Democrats because the Democrats keep trying to promise them. Hey. We'll we'll make you safer. We'll keep we'll,   you'll you won't be the victim anymore, and that's caused it caused them to go down this   horrible, terrible,   spiral that they're in.  



[02:27:11] Unknown:

Yeah.   So that now yeah. I mean, you they're  

[02:27:16] Duuude-Ron :

they're starting to peel away from the Democrats. They're starting to wake up. They're starting to walk with it's actually called the walk away movement   where   Democrats of all races   are starting to go, wait a minute. Wait a minute. The the Democrat party itself   is not representing   me like they claim.   And so, yeah, they're they're   they're shooting themselves in the foot, and they're,   what's their solution? Well, we need to go harder left.   Harder left. Harder left. It's like, no.   You were you a   weak Democrat,   like,   during during   Clinton knew how to triangulate. He was able to get   Republicans on board   and get stuff actually passed. Nowadays, hell, when's the last time we passed an actual budget?  

I think we've done an actual budget in the past twenty years.  

[02:28:11] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No. Last time, I believe, was when Clinton was in office.  

[02:28:16] Duuude-Ron :

And their Bush?   No. But they've been like  

[02:28:20] Rich Chelson:

yeah. No. Fuck. No. We was we was at war during British Bush Junior. We didn't have a Yeah. That's true. Yeah.   No. It's I think I mean, I could be wrong, but  

[02:28:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, I know it didn't happen during, during Albozo. So  

[02:28:35] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No.   So yeah. No. It's been it's been well over twenty years.   Probably closer to thirty.  

[02:28:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Which is a lot.   Uh-huh. I was just gonna say that's that's one reason why how much spending has been allowed to get so far out of control is be just because   they don't have like, alright. Well, we're just gonna continue spending what we're doing, and then we're gonna add some to it.   Well and and they'll just print the money they need. So Oh, yeah. And that's why that's why cheeseburger now costs $10 instead of 5.  

[02:29:11] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But  

[02:29:13] Duuude-Ron :

it is about to be getting that time. Yeah. I was gonna say what I I'm driving, so I can't peek at my time as easily now without having   having my tattletale really, really look at me.  

[02:29:26] Rich Chelson:

So It's 9 it's $9.53.  

[02:29:29] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Yeah. I was thinking it was looked like it was $9.50 something.   Get it. I need new glasses. I can't see that well now. Can't see that small prep right far away.   So When When your insurance when your insurance   kicks in, go get new glasses. Oh, so, yeah, I'm gonna get new glasses. I'm gonna be able I'm gonna I'm gonna see be able to see a horny toad's butthole from two miles away.  

[02:29:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You know, I did not need to know about your  

[02:29:54] Duuude-Ron :

Past days of the horny toed buttholes.  

[02:29:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Looking at a horny toed butthole, but   you do you, boo.  

[02:30:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. But anyhow, so, guys, I wanna say everybody listening say I wanna say thank you tremendously   for   listening. If you notice through the through the show, we didn't have any advertising. We didn't take a a commercial break for,   for a mattress commercial. We didn't stop to to try to sell you, you know, some a McDonald's ad, which has nothing then bearing to do with what we're talking about. You know? It's   we we're we're not doing,   you know, any type of baked in ad. We're not doing any type of, programmatic advertising.   We're doing just   ourselves. We're just having conversations   and and talking   about, about what's happening in our life, and that's what this show is about. Now there are us and and overhead for running a show, and it's not much. We pay for,   we pay for a Zoom, Zoom meeting room. We pay for a we pay for a little bit of editing software. We pay for our hosting.  

And that's the extent of what we,   of what we really have to pay, which doesn't sound like much except for, you know,   where   it it does add up after a while.   And so one of the things that we,   one one of the things we planned off on right off the bat on this when we were creating the show   was   let's do a,   how do we how do we be able to at least cover our costs? And then we've settled settled on the value for value model,   which   is in a you either you can donate what you deem   will work.   It may be that we're gonna work just a little bit of time.   Maybe you're taking you're you're setting up   our chapters for us so that, modern podcasting apps   can, can see what the chapters are. We use cloud chapters instead of hard coding them into our m p three folder file. And so this makes it easier. So if we said, you know what? Not liking the   where this particular chapter is setting, we can adjust it   without having to rerelease the the file itself. We could just make the change in the cloud,   and it shows up on the in the, RSS feed, and the RSS feed then   references over to the to the chapter file. And so we can make our changes there. We also thanks to modern podcasting apps, we also have   a the   not the teletype, closed captioning for the hearing impaired. So, yeah, people who are hard of hearing can actually   read what we're talking about, and   it may not be a 100% accurate because we're relying on on a not so AI, not so intelligent AI.  

But we are, you know, we we are able to at least give you the gist of what it is we're talking about.   But these   because we are   doing   the, the value for value,   if you don't have the time, you can also maybe you've got talent. Maybe you you like to go through and you're an AI prop jockey, and you wanna wanna create,   album art for us. You're right. You could do that. We're not gonna   kick you out of kick you out of the the room because you made a made a piece of album art,   and you'd like to, share it with us. Well, if you wanna do that, you can go through. You can make it. Just needs to be about needs to be at the very smallest   no more than or no less than 1,500 by 1,500 pixels. And if you're,   and the biggest that it needs to be that it can be is, 3,000 by 3,000. So I usually recommend tell people, yeah, make it about 2,000 pixels squared,   and and that will cover everything that,   that typically   will utilize   our our image. And so we could take it. And if we get enough of them, we can actually take those   those pieces apart and use them at in our chapter art because modern podcasting apps even allow for   there'd be artwork for each chapter, and and those will change as we,   as the as the chapters change. So it's all all sorts of great benefits to podcasting two point o, modern podcast apps that we that we have. Not to mention, we have, like, a blog roll. We have several other things. It's it's a fun   way to   amplify   the interactivity   that the podcasts have.  

And because you have the value for value model, which is your time, talent, and then finally treasure,   we have different ways that you can actually   contribute   to the, to the show. You can   contribute by being a, like, a producer. You can you can,   produce, you could give us a a   whatever you think is the the amount,   that you seem   valuable, if it's a fair trade for you. You know? Maybe you what we did is,   is that worth a dollar? It's like, okay. Well, thank you. Thank you very much for the dollar. Maybe you think it's worth, worth $25.   Alright. Well, then thank you again.  

The value is,   dependent upon you. And with the podcasting modern podcast apps, you can get over at podcastapps.com.   You actually can, you can also hit the funding   button because, like, one of the modern podcast apps is   is is True Fans, and True Fans has actually got a   an app available now. And if I looked if,   be truthful looking at it, I think it's more it's a it's an app   wrapper for for the PWA,   but it works so much better than the PWA ever did. So I don't know.   But there's just little ways of how it loads in that it gives me the impression that it's PWA.   But   the, the True Fans app   has a has a little coin,   up in the top at the top of the, the podcast page where you can actually hit that, and that's the funding. It's thanks to the funding tag of the podcast,   and that will actually bring up our PayPal page. And there, you can actually contribute to   to the show and and   help the show to come grow and to improve. And the more money we're able to get, the more we can actually start trying to, do stuff to give back to y'all.  

But that is just one of the great things about,   how the show is set up. This is why you don't get   the boring ads of us repeating ourselves over and over and over saying, buy their shit, buy their shit, buy their shit because   we we don't care. We don't have to   censor ourselves   for, for an advertiser. We can say what we wanna say, and the only person that we have to worry about is offending you. And if we offend you, okay. Well, I'm sorry to hear it. You we'll see you next week. Maybe we won't do it then.   And we can we can go through and and have these types of circles. Now one of the great things also is you can send a message to us,   and you can see you can shoot an email to us. We reply to the email. We will have these communication loops.  

And one of the great ways of being able to do that is   you can,   a lot of the, like,   flu fans and fountain, you can actually shoot boosts over to us, and we can read the boosts out and and let you know what   what people are saying. We can actually have   conversations   in in,   on the show with, with our with our fans. And so if you find that the fire within your heart that you wanna help and and   have the show become   better and all around, then I've asked that you try helping helping the show out by contributing in one form, fashion, or another whether it's time, talent, and or treasure.   And with that, I will go ahead and I will pass the mic on over to, Rich. And, Rick, what do you have to say?  



[02:38:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, not much. Just wanna thank everybody who's still listening   and, keeps coming back for more to hear   what our thoughts on everything.   Just wanna   Brian, dude, thank you guys for   doing this because this is actually a lot of fun. Otherwise,   I'd I'd probably be sitting and watching TV,   maybe playing piano. I don't know. But I'd I'd be doing something else,   but   I I enjoy doing this. It it it gives me something and actually makes me feel like,   you know, I'm talking to you,   Brian and dude, which is cool because,   you know,   I I don't I normally talk to myself. And   even though I give myself expert advice,   some sometimes I do fail at it, so it's nice to be able to talk and interact and hear other people. So Absolutely.  

Just yeah. Thanks for listening.   Tell your friends. Share this out.   You wanna talk to any of us,   send me an email, [email protected],   or send Brian an email,   [email protected].   And we'll be happy to hear what you have to say, whether you like us, hate us, love us, you know, wanna ask a question,   whatever. Just   shoot an email, and we'll be happy to,   answer it right here on the air.  

[02:39:45] Duuude-Ron :

Absolutely. And, hey, if you wanna say say that we're, absent minded, boneheaded idiots,   you can do that too. We'd love to hear we'd love to hear from you.   And, yeah, if you wanna   wanna have a discussion, then we can we can have a, have a discussion. So it's there's all sorts of ways that we can, we can interact with each other.  

[02:40:04] Rich Chelson:

Definitely. Definitely. So that's about all I got. So, dude, what you got, man?  

[02:40:10] Unknown:

Man, you guys,   pretty well   everything.   I'm going to just say   thanks everybody for listening to the podcast,   and I just hope everybody has an   outstanding and blessed week.  

[02:40:28] Duuude-Ron :

Alright, guys. Well, again, if you wanna reach out to us, circle cast, circlecast,@gmail.com   or r chelson, that is chelson,@atgmail.com.   Love to hear from y'all. So till next week, we will talk to y'all then. So   y'all take care. Catch y'all laters. Rich, Ron, thanks again for coming on. Love talking with y'all, and we will see y'all next week. Till then.   Bye.  

[02:40:57] Rich Chelson:

Later.  

[02:40:59] Unknown:

Peace out.  

[02:41:01] Duuude-Ron :

See you guys. See you next week. Be careful.   Alright.  

[02:41:05] Rich Chelson:

Bye bye.