Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this week's episode of "2 Grumpy Vets and a Duuude," we dive into a lively conversation filled with humor, camaraderie, and a touch of history. Join Brian, Rich, and the Dude as they navigate through topics ranging from ancient Greek technology to modern-day trucking challenges. We kick off with a humorous take on the Antikythera mechanism, an ancient analog computer, and its relevance today. The conversation then shifts to the intricacies of hazardous material handling and the peculiarities of anhydrous ammonia, complete with amusing anecdotes about shrinking dollar bills.

As the episode unfolds, we explore the world of instant coffee, the challenges of podcast growth, and the impact of social media platforms like TikTok. The hosts share insights into the podcast's listenership and discuss strategies for expanding their audience. The conversation takes a turn towards environmental issues, touching on the California wildfires and the complexities of land management.

In a lighter segment, the hosts reminisce about their experiences with golf, sharing stories of memorable shots and the joys of the game. The episode wraps up with a discussion on the importance of living life intentionally, embracing challenges, and the value of friendship. With plenty of laughs and thought-provoking moments, this episode is a testament to the power of conversation and connection.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And a duuude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social   commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living,   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude.   Recording in progress.   So we make it in yet, Rich, or we talking to?   Yep. You got your phone call. Okay.  

Alright.   Let's see here. Let's let the dude know.  

[00:00:54] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, where you at?  

[00:00:57] Bryan Goodwin:

There he is.  

[00:01:00] Duuude-Ron :

If you can't  

[00:01:01] Bryan Goodwin:

hear your butt, ears in.   Gunna have done nothing but sneeze all flipping day today.  

[00:01:09] Duuude-Ron :

Woah.   Alright.   Well, good evening, freaking frack.   Hello.  

[00:01:17] Bryan Goodwin:

See if I can get myself over here to where I can I can actually talk to the microphone?   There we go.   See here. I'm just trying to trying to figure out how I'm gonna rearrange everything so I can get the new element put in, worked into   into the show.   Not that we're actually officially gonna use it today, but  

[00:01:40] Duuude-Ron :

What's the new element? The sound,   whatever?  

[00:01:45] Bryan Goodwin:

That? You hear that?  

[00:01:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Crashing coins?   Yeah. Or this? Yeah.  

[00:01:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Barely.   Barely? Alright.   That might be,   that might be Zoom trying to trying to edit sounds out too. So   it our our our tune, our work,   this may not work just strictly because Zoom   is going through and editing out,   editing out background noises. So   but anyhow   so yeah.   Ron's,   or, Ron.   Rich is gonna be,   be here probably a little late.   He is   he's he's logged in just so that he can have the, the live show going.   But,   he is,   he had a phone call with somebody today in this evening. He said   might be a little on the,   on the late side. So   Oh, so I that means I have to converse with you? You gotta talk with me. Yeah. You gotta talk with me. With me. This,  

[00:02:57] Duuude-Ron :

what else is fucking,   you know,   that's normal.  

[00:03:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, exactly.   So you don't have to worry about it too terribly much.  

[00:03:09] Duuude-Ron :

I don't think about it anyway.   It's over. It's it's over my head. It's like, why? I just stopped listening.   Right. I'm just like, I'm out. You know?   But   one day I'll get   motivated   and learn some   computer   skills. Well, first, I have to Oh, yeah. Well well, either I gotta have a computer.  

[00:03:39] Bryan Goodwin:

It does it does help. Yeah.   Trying to trying to do computers with, with,   like the Antikytherion   mechanism is probably not going to work quite as well as we need it to.   The what?   The Antikytherion   mechanism.  

[00:03:58] Duuude-Ron :

I I know that I know that we I've heard that phrase again. Can you just like,  

[00:04:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.   There,   actually, I wanted to say that it was outside   of the   town. I think the town, city, port, whatever you wanna call it was is called Antikythera.   But, yeah, there was a they were,   couple guys who were out scuba diving in the Mediterranean   sea.   And while down there, they found   this   group of very intricate gears   that were all they were obviously, they because they were in salt water and stuff, they were very corroded and crunched up together.   So it's nothing's actually moving.   But what they   found out was that this is a very   one of the first examples of an analog computer   that   was used to determine   star positions in the sky   is what they have come down to figuring out, figuring what that's what it's for.  



[00:05:05] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:05:07] Bryan Goodwin:

And so you got, and so it's it's, just a, it's not even the whole thing. It's just a chunk of this,   this mechanism and no one really knows who,   no one has a clue as to who made it,   and stuff, but it was back during, you know,   the   the the Greeks and and stuff. So   they're thinking my kids probably back during,   Aristotle   or or Socrates,   did or or somebody like or someplace like that. You know, back in those times when,   wasn't just, wasn't it was before the Romans, and it was during, the height of, of the Greek,   civilization when the Greeks were running around philosophizing and stuff like that.  



[00:05:56] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:05:57] Bryan Goodwin:

So but it's just it's a really old, it's a it's an analog computer is what it is. So   that's why that's why I made the joke as I did was the the fact that it was a   it was a a computer, but it's not the type of computer that'll that'll work for you in in the way that you're wanting it to.   So Yeah. Probably not.  

[00:06:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Just try just fucking trying to turn one on.   Yeah.   I, you know, the only   I don't even I   I interface   very, very little on a daily basis. I have to log in at work,   you know, to the system that we have.   And then I have to log on to my ELD,   which   is, like, the press of 4 buttons, and I'm   logged in.   So I'm pretty well done   with that.   Okay. And then if I have any, you know,   company training that I have to do,   you know, I'll log in   to that site.   But, again, that's just a matter of fucking   PowerPoint slide or   or a fucking,   special permit.  

Yester no. Was it yesterday? No.   What's today?   Today's Thursday.   Yeah. Monday,   we have to do by   by federal law or by DOT,   anybody   that works with hazardous   materials, the cylinders and so on like that that we do,   you have to   do h m 126   h f class   and test.  

[00:07:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. So that's the, that's essentially kinda like continuing education   class.  

[00:08:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And so I think it's every   2 years or 3 years, but it seems like mine comes up a hell of a lot   sooner than fucking 3 years.  

[00:08:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. About about over 7 months.  

[00:08:17] Duuude-Ron :

It just seems like it.   But it's it's too you have you have to score a 100% on the final exam.   And part of the exam   is the freaking,   HAZMAT guidebook   that we have to keep in the truck   Right. That   and I know you've seen that book where it gives the,  

[00:08:41] Bryan Goodwin:

So you can look up what the numbers are and and  

[00:08:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Or the product, oxygen,   carbon dioxide, whatever. Right. And in case of emergency, it tells you in the book of how to do an emergency if you're   Imodium,   say you get an Imodium spill, you you have to fucking do an evacuation,   depends on the spill.   And that goes   immediately   to the federal level,   it gets reported.   That way, they can, you know,   disperse   what they need to have on scene. And it's a recordable   quantity   product.   So,   you know,   that just I'm glad we personally   do not transport   ammonium.  

[00:09:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I know. Ammonia. Anhydrous ammonia is just Oh, yeah. It's brutal. I mean Yeah. We It'll do some really cool things. I've seen, saw a guy who, he was,   because we, whenever I was working for coop,   you know, we have a we have a huge, you know, huge anhydrous ammonia tank that we use   to fill up,   for for fertilizer.   Yeah. Uh-huh.   And, but one of the things that would happen was if he had if there was a strong enough day,   wind of a day,   he would actually take, like, a bucket and, granted you're not actually supposed to do this, but, you know, still at the same time, you know, it's a small town. We we do stuff you're not supposed to, and that's alright.   You could take a 5, take a, like, a 5 gallon bucket   and fill it up with anhydrous ammonia.  

And he would get us and if you had a, $5 bill, a $1 bill, $5 bill to any type of dollar bill,   and and he would ask you for it, and he would take it and throw it inside the inside the tank with the anhydrous,   in that bucket full of anhydrous ammonia.   And, Brandon, we would have to stand a little further down wind than what he would because, yeah, that shit'll knock knock you on your feet, off your feet Oh, yeah. In in a heartbeat.   So but he would sit there, and he would   kinda mash it around inside the in the bucket for a little while   and stuff, and he'd stir it around and and stuff. And eventually, he would take it out   and   something with how the anhydrous ammonia interacts with the fibers of the of the dollar bill of the bills themselves.  

Yeah. They shrink,   in a noticeable   amount.   So you would have a start out with a full size, like, $5 bill, and all of a sudden, it would probably be like your pinky width   shrunk on all four sides.  

[00:11:30] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow.  

[00:11:32] Bryan Goodwin:

So you're like, oh, I heard my $5 bill. You take it out to be this little bitty miniature size doll $5 bill.   People look at it like, that's not real. It's like, actually, yeah. It is. It's what happened to a dollar to a bill when you stick it in a in an a bunch of anhydrous ammonia for a bit. So  

[00:11:51] Duuude-Ron :

So, basically, it looked like an elongated   stamp.  

[00:11:55] Bryan Goodwin:

It would look like well, I mean, it's not like No. That's fine.   It's   you know, it would   I don't know. You'd cover it would take off about a   oh, maybe not a half inch, maybe a quarter inch. I don't know. I'm terrible. I've I've lied to my wife what 6 inches is for this long. I'm not exactly sure about what how long a quarter inch would be. So   but, you know, it'd take about a quarter inch around the around there. It like I said, it's a sizable difference. It would be small enough that you looked at it and you went, that's not the right size,   bill.  



[00:12:29] Duuude-Ron :

Kinda turned it like into, the size of monopoly money. Yeah. Yeah. That would be a good description. Yeah.   So when   the Imodra,   yeah, the chemical,   because I can't fucking   talk. He can't say an address about you? I said, no, I cannot say that for the free to save my life. So the chemical,   when it dried,  

[00:12:53] Bryan Goodwin:

would the bill go back to a normal size or a day? It stayed that size for the rest of the time.  

[00:13:00] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:13:02] Bryan Goodwin:

I still I wish I still had mine. I don't know what happened to it. It just up and disappeared one day.   But, yeah, it was a   it was a shrunken dollar bill.  

[00:13:13] Duuude-Ron :

It was pretty damn cool. So So if you put your head into it, would you have a shrunken head?   I  

[00:13:20] Bryan Goodwin:

That's I know it'd be   colder. Well yeah.   That's the only thing I know for a fact that it'd be is it'd be a whole lot colder.   Talk about brain freeze.  

[00:13:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So does that   is that in a cryoliquid   state?  

[00:13:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. It's a liquid. Okay. Okay.   So, I mean, it and it's kinda like,   it it's a and it's in a liquid state, but it's not like you have, like,   nitrogen.  

[00:13:56] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:13:58] Bryan Goodwin:

So it's more like closer to, like, liquid propane.  

[00:14:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's why I was gonna say propane or propylene. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha.  

[00:14:05] Bryan Goodwin:

So that's a good way to look at it. You you pour it out, then it'll eventually it'll buy   it it's it makes a big cloud whenever it's,   whenever it's exposed to the air and stuff, but at the same time, that's why they put it. But it, ammonia breaks down into nitrogen. So   it's just really hard on your lungs when you breathe it in.   Well,   yeah.  

[00:14:32] Duuude-Ron :

I I It's the reason why they use it for smelling salts.  

[00:14:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Have you not ever had took in a big old whiff of smelling salts?   Yes. I have. Okay. Yes. It's ammonia.  

[00:14:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Well, now I don't do that on a daily basis. You know? Well, I don't either. I just I happen to have come across,  

[00:14:53] Bryan Goodwin:

some whenever I was in high school, the,   I was messing around in the,   in the not the coach's office, but,   but the you know, for the injured players and stuff, they had the k what they called the cage.   And we get the guys go in there and set the whirlpool,   ice pool and stuff like that.   We were just kinda looking around and there was there was a a smell and salt.   And I like I was like, okay. I'm snagged 1 and I wasn't gonna fart with it there because I wouldn't get trouble. The coaches caught me. So   yeah. Once I got home, I was like, alright. And looked at it and cracked it and was like,   woah. Yeah. Hey, I know exactly what that is. I've had to tell you that shit before. So   because ammonia's a great grease cutter.  

So oh, okay. I believe you. I have never No. That's why grandma that's why, you know, we used to have ammonia,   you know, floor cleaner and it would be degreaser.   Oh, okay. You go to the store and you buy a bottle of, it basically is ammonia dissolved in water.   If I was to guess, I haven't had ammonia in my house and   I don't think I've ever actually had ammonia in my house.   I mean, most people don't. The only time anybody ever uses,   uses,   something that's got ammonia in it now is, is window cleaners.  

[00:16:25] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Uh-huh.  

[00:16:27] Bryan Goodwin:

So because most people most people, you know, you're not supposed to mix ammonia and bleach together because it,   I forget what the name of the,   what the gas is that's created.  

[00:16:39] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's the same thing with,   carbon dioxide   and water. You can't mix those.   It produces,   carbonic acid.  

[00:16:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah. But carbonic acid is not dangerous for you.   Yeah. It is. That's just another name to call to call,   carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide used to be called carbonic acid.  

[00:17:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, well, anyway, it'll fuck up your senses.  

[00:17:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. They want us I'm sure yeah. It's not good to be  

[00:17:09] Duuude-Ron :

to be a whole bunch of it. So what do you get? Yeah. No. I'm not gonna, you know, and fill in carbon dioxide cylinders   and cryogenic   vessels. You know?   I'd   carbon dioxide just has that   well,   you breathe or breathe pure carbon dioxide.   Yeah. That'll just fucking knock you on your ass. Oh, yeah.   It's quite powerful.   So   but,   no. Yeah. That's what I was told   by   one of my higher management   that, yeah, carbon dioxide and water makes   carbonic acid. It'll fuck up your especially your,   smell.  

[00:17:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it it   yeah. It'll it'll oh, obviously. Right? Good. But, I mean, that's what you have with a   that's what you have with,   carbonated fish. Yeah.   You know, that's what that's what a, a fizzy fizzy water is.   Salt water. That's   just carbon dioxide and water.  

[00:18:24] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,  

[00:18:26] Bryan Goodwin:

so I bet anyhow, but no, what I was trying to think of was it's chloramine gas is what actually what it's called. When you act you go off and you mix,   bleach and ammonia together,   produces a a really,   really toxic,   gas.   Now it'll do the it'll do a number. If you ever have a a a coffee   pot that is severely stained.  

[00:18:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:18:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Mix a little bit of, that,   chlorine and, and ammonia together   and kinda swish it around outside   so that you don't have to breathe it in.   Uh-huh. It'll clean, it'll clean the the   crap out of a out of a coffee diganter.  

[00:19:09] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. So  

[00:19:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, even dangerous, chemicals   have a   purpose. You can use them. Oh, yeah.  

[00:19:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, and you know,   like my coffee cup,   I don't know if it'll,   I don't know if it'll ever get clean again,  

[00:19:28] Bryan Goodwin:

but, you know Put a little ammonia and chlorine in there, and it'll just peel out. Layer and test.  

[00:19:34] Duuude-Ron :

No. That's okay. I'll just, you know, it   it now has that   character flavor.  

[00:19:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Is that what we call it?  

[00:19:44] Duuude-Ron :

Sure. Yeah. I   call  

[00:19:48] Bryan Goodwin:

I call it a biome.   So  

[00:19:52] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah.   You know? But I do instant coffee.   So but   I do drink. Really? Normally?   Let's see.   You've seen my coffee, my big coffee   cup?  

[00:20:09] Bryan Goodwin:

My, coffee cup? I'm thinking I had. Yeah.   Yeah. Because I brought it with me too. Oh, yeah. You you it's you it normally doesn't leave your side.  

[00:20:17] Duuude-Ron :

Pretty much.   I do I do 4 of those a day.   That's instant coffee.  

[00:20:26] Bryan Goodwin:

And how many scoops of instant coffee do you put into that one?  

[00:20:30] Duuude-Ron :

One tablespoon.  

[00:20:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, shit. Okay.   No wonder that I I have, I have a deal of, of instant coffee just for the emergency reasons of in case I do not have money and I need, I need some coffee.   Yeah.   I've not ever made   it done it before, and I was like, okay. Well, let's let's let's try this. And I was like, well, okay. Let you know?   1, and it kinda looks. I was like, not very much. So I put about 3 in and,   wow.   That is some nasty shit.   Nope. I was like  

[00:21:10] Duuude-Ron :

nope. I do instant coffee,   4 cups a day.  

[00:21:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow. Yeah. No. I have to   do real coffee personally. So   it's just   it that is the stuff.   It'll get you out. It'll get you through a pinch.   That's about it for me, at least for me.   Cause, yeah, that's just, that's just way   the it's the aftertaste   is that the set freeze dried   bin at the very, very end that just is the distraction.  

[00:21:44] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, that's very true, but I'm kind of used to it now. So she well, yeah, 4 cups a day.  

[00:21:51] Bryan Goodwin:

That that says a   lot. Yeah. It's like, yeah. Normal coffee.   It's missing something.  

[00:21:58] Duuude-Ron :

Well, now I also add a couple tablespoons   of sugar and some creamer and   Right. You know.   So I don't   I couldn't drink that shit   as a black coffee sub or substance.   Yeah. No. That's a  

[00:22:15] Bryan Goodwin:

So why why  

[00:22:17] Duuude-Ron :

It's like   coffee.   Because it's just easier for me when I get up in the morning, turn the water kettle on.   Heats up in about,   you know, 2, 3 minutes, and I got coffee with the instant coffee.   So it's just I've just come accustomed to that because of the fact that,   it's easier for me in the morning because   my ass doesn't wanna wake up in the morning anyway.   Never have my whole life,   and it just is   you know,   it's a lot easier for me,   you know, down my 1st cup while I'm having a couple of cigarettes and   and go get dressed and ready for work   and   do another cup   that I take to work. And then I   have some have a thermos with the hot water, and I do the concoction with the instant coffee and sugar and put that in a little container so I can have,   you know,   coffee  

[00:23:25] Bryan Goodwin:

later in the day.   So which brand do you use?  

[00:23:31] Duuude-Ron :

It's usually   hold on. Damn.   I don't know. Because   I'll do the, you know, like, H E B brand.  

[00:23:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay. Okay.  

[00:23:40] Duuude-Ron :

I don't do the Walmart brand. That is just harsh, but let's see.   What was what is the name? What is the name brand?   The name brand is Nescafe.  

[00:23:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:23:53] Duuude-Ron :

But, hell, even   even that is freaking $7   a   fucking   jar.  

[00:24:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, wow.  

[00:24:03] Duuude-Ron :

Well and it well   and it equals to,   you know, a large container of regular brew coffee   by the time it's all said and done. Yeah.   Yeah. Because my cup   can hold   oh, it's probably   3 quarters of a pot   is what my cup can hold.   Okay.   So, but that's, you know, that's just   my life. That's alright.  

[00:24:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, Juan Valdez. That's what it is. It's called the Juan Valdez signature,   Instacoffee.   And,  

[00:24:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:24:47] Bryan Goodwin:

I was trying to think of the name. I kept coming up with Don Juan, and I was like, no. No. It's not Don Juan.   I knew there was a Juan in there. I just didn't know what direction Juan was. So  

[00:25:00] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Okay.   Yeah. I've heard of him. Colombian Coffee.  

[00:25:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:25:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:25:06] Bryan Goodwin:

3 kids, 3 scoops,   of,   of of   Juan Valdez in a,   in a, I said about a 24,   maybe 26 ounce cup, coffee cup is too much.   Yeah.   Just so you know, you know, in case in case you get curious, do you wanna see what it's like, you don't wanna do it?  

[00:25:31] Duuude-Ron :

No.   Because   yeah. Well,   used to have the MRE coffee, and boy, that shit would work.   I tell you what, that shit and,   using a   canteen cup?   Uh-huh.   Yeah. That that shit will   put will grow hair on the bottom   of your feet.   Yeah. That I'm already caught well,   long time ago, now they have Folgers instant   packets in the MREs now.   Oh, wow. But before they got Folgers,   it was   god only knows who made that shit.   And, yeah, that was fucking   yeah, that   would, a hand would reach out of your canteen cup and slap you in the fucking face   before you started before you started drinking it. And then,   yeah.  

But you had to do what you had to do Oh, yeah. To go out in the field.  

[00:26:34] Bryan Goodwin:

If you wanted some type of caffeine, you were gonna you were gonna have to figure out some way of wrestling that beast into into a cup. So that's one of those where you check to see if it's ready by by   sticking a nail in there. And if the nail stands, it's it's ready.   Pretty much.  

[00:26:53] Duuude-Ron :

Or if you put a fucking,   you know, a painted stick   in the coffee and the paint  

[00:26:59] Bryan Goodwin:

fucking dissolves. Eats the paint off the Eats the paint off of the stick?  

[00:27:04] Duuude-Ron :

It is ready to go.  

[00:27:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Without a doubt. Works great as a degreaser.   So Yes.  

[00:27:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It decreases engines.   Yes.   I'm I'm sure it does without a doubt.  

[00:27:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. No. I mean, we used to just do   because the navy likes to make sure all the all the brass on on their ships and stuff is all nice and shiny.   Oh, yeah. And, so we would use basic that we call it bug juice, but all it was is just cheap knockoff Kool Aid.   And we would use those   a packet of those to clean the drains   because it's it's   citric acid.   Oh, okay. Yeah. So you just get the same effect if you were to just take ketchup and put a squirt on there, which   did from time to time. But, but, yeah, they would a lot of guys would use the,   use the   the bug juice   packets and put it on there   and work it at or or put it in a cup and work it into a paste and then scrub scrub it onto the, onto the drains and let it just set there for for about 10 minutes or so, and then throw water on it and flush it all down.  

It worked.   The drapes came out nice and shiny. So,  

[00:28:23] Duuude-Ron :

You know? There's a lot of stuff we  

[00:28:25] Bryan Goodwin:

you find out, you can use to to clean clean stuff.  

[00:28:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Uh-huh. You're right.  

[00:28:33] Bryan Goodwin:

But   so   so   what's been   oh, so we have some Okay. He's I'm over here boy.   Yeah.   I'm over here, boys cascade for the night, and I just had a guy pull through with a load. And I was, like, going, hey. I did   it's a boys cascade truck. So   I was like, oh, darn it. So  

[00:29:03] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So  

[00:29:05] Bryan Goodwin:

But, anyway it's just Weird. I I thought I was, like, going, hey. Wait a minute. I how how is he able to go on in? And, and I have to sit around and wait until the morning.   Because if I could've gone ahead and got loaded, I would've.  

[00:29:19] Duuude-Ron :

But So what are you what are you getting ready to get loaded with?   Siding.  

[00:29:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Siding? Okay. Yeah. And just take some siding up to, Clinton, Oklahoma.  

[00:29:30] Duuude-Ron :

Clinton, Oklahoma.   Alright.  

[00:29:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Happening town that it is.  

[00:29:35] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I'm sure.   So you're at you're at the location for the night  

[00:29:41] Bryan Goodwin:

and then getting loaded in the morning? Yeah. I'm just gonna get loaded in the morning. That way I don't have to I only have to fight the traffic one direction and   and,   we'll be good.   And then from what then you go home. Right? Yep. Yep. Once I get unloaded, I'll just shag butt onto the house, and we'll   we'll we'll mess with a, with a overly hyper dog and dogs   and,   and do our normal,   normal routine, get a podcast recorded and all that stuff. So  

[00:30:18] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   So what's our current,   I know Rich usually does those numbers, but how's our   podcast doing?  

[00:30:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, well, it's pulled up here.   Let's go to   our official host, pod home dot f m. If you wanna do your own podcast,   and with podcasting 2.0   specifications,   you can do that,   quite easily for cool,   easy   $15 a month.   So there's my advertisement.  

[00:30:51] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that's I meant to oh, well, I'm gonna log out here.  

[00:30:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Sign out.  

[00:31:00] Duuude-Ron :

Well, if one of our listeners wants to do their own podcast, you know,   that would be great. Me personally,   no. I'll just   hang out with y'all every week.  

[00:31:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Let's see here. Well, we have broke 1500   in total listens for from the time we started,   which was in April of 2024.   So   October was our, was our biggest month, which is big for most people that it normally is   because come November, December, and January.   November December, you have,   you have the holidays, so everybody's busy. They're just kind of like, alright. Well, they've got that car full of kids. No one's wanting to listen to podcasts. They all just wanna listen to music, so   no one get really listens that much. So, yeah,   November, December, January, we typically,   have drop.  

Biggest day, we typically are still getting   about,   22 to 25,   downloads,   with each episode. So, you know, we're not we're it's as big as a classroom.  

[00:32:15] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Yeah.  

[00:32:17] Bryan Goodwin:

So how do we expand  

[00:32:21] Duuude-Ron :

it? That's the question. How to grow?  

[00:32:24] Bryan Goodwin:

You start talking about it.   That's one way,   start,   every Monday morning.   Go to,   go over to the,   to the,   the Facebook page   and   share that out. I   think I think I think it automatically post up on Facebook. Let me   fully absolutely   say that. Let me,   or now that I have fully said that, let's, let's go to,   yeah, we definitely need more visit more, followers on,   on our on our Facebook page. January 6th. Nope. Three fallacies and 30 the fallacy and 37¢.   So,   yep, most feasible pain in the ass. There we go.   So yeah. Yeah.   So go through and   like it and share it out and  

[00:33:38] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I see what you're saying.  

[00:33:40] Bryan Goodwin:

So, yeah, just, go to 2 grumpy vets,   Facebook page, and I would share that out on on your,   on your Facebook.   And, then if you've got, other places,   that she's happened to see or you haven't come across somebody who's listened to podcasts, you might mention, it's okay. You might check out 2 Grumpy Bets and a Dude.  

[00:34:02] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:34:04] Bryan Goodwin:

So it's just a matter of we've gotta start talking about it. And that's   that's where how we can actually grow ourselves a lot more, is start talking about it,   finding other ways of marketing,   taking the time to,   make clips,   which is   kind of, it feel I think it's it's not really worth it, but a lot of people think making clips   works for them.   And, yeah, it can,   if you're   doing,   like, YouTube shorts and stuff. That's kinda part of YouTube's algorithm is you put out a you put out your episode.   And then for the next week, you're putting out, you know,   like, 3   shorts   of that particular   episode   throughout the week. And so if you put out 3 episodes   each week, then you need to put out a total of 9 shorts   each day.  

They they want you to beat beat the the heck out of the, out of the algorithm.   And so it's a lot of work and that's one reason why there's not as many   huge stars   out there because it is a full time job.  

[00:35:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   unfortunately, my full time job has to pay the bills. So  

[00:35:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But at the same time, if we were to actually turn this into   a viable business   and we're doing,   we all were turning our our cameras on. We were all doing, the live stream and posting it up onto   TikTok and Instagram and YouTube and,   and rumble and all the other places that accept live streaming.   And then on top of that, we post up the the the completed edited video   onto   onto all those those places.   We would get more viewers, and then you could actually, oh, there's actually I I don't know how true it is, but there's a gal that actually,   showed that,   that, like, Pornhub   can actually actually gives you   a better what rate of return   for   views   as opposed to YouTube.  

So you could actually take your video because it doesn't say anything that you it has to be pornography that you're posting up on Pornhub.   But you Yeah. But, again, at the same time, you living in Texas, you wouldn't be able to you wouldn't be able to view it anyhow.  

[00:36:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:36:53] Bryan Goodwin:

So I'm being in Oklahoma, I can't view it either. So   Oh, really? Nope. Nope. They, they they've got the same little,   little warning deal or not warning, but,   deals   saying, well, they all we're we're protecting y'all because we're making it,   they're they're wanting to be able to have a database of everybody who visits. It's like, no. No one freaking cares if you're visiting. They just wanna make sure kids aren't visiting, but, you know,   it is what it is what it is.   Yeah. So   but, yeah, there's apparently some gal that did,   a STEM class,   and she posted up on YouTube,   and,   you know, she made something like $348   or something like that for that particular video.  

And then she posted the exact same video up on to Pornhub and got something like 900 and something odd dollars, almost a1000, if not.  

[00:37:52] Rich Chelson:

So   it's like, well,  

[00:37:55] Bryan Goodwin:

it probably also helps the fact that your girl teaching,   teaching STEM as opposed to some boring dude. So  

[00:38:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Me yeah.  

[00:38:10] Bryan Goodwin:

So but, yeah, I mean, we get there's always a way. It's just how much work are you willing to put into it.  

[00:38:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, I understand.  

[00:38:20] Bryan Goodwin:

And and no. And I agree that we need to start   gathering together and forming a plan and going, alright. So let's share this, this, this, this, this,   and go through and make a couple clips on fountain,   share those out so that gets people who use because when you share fountain,   clips out   or when you make a clip in the in the app of, called fountain,   you   that clip gets shared out to everybody in   just in public   who's using the app. And that you'll get a little mention in the in the news feed of, hey. He's you know, Brian just made a, made a clip for,   2 grumpy vets and a dude. And then if you're interested, you can go through and, and listen to it and and,   you know, there you go. You've gotta listen. You they may end up liking it and   and   throw some, throw some Satoshis or or whatever Noster's using these days because I think we've our our satoshi,   deal I don't know if you caught last week, but, our satoshi stuff has fallen through the floor   because we had the great out what's called the great albie blimp.  

And albie is was the   was gonna be,   started out being a just a wallet for people to carry their cryptocurrency in,   more specifically, carry Satoshis that would work off of   the network   of of Lightning,   which is just it's kind of an off what they call an off chain   network for,   for Bitcoin.   And it ran on just the it worked real well with microtransactions,   which is what   Adam Curry and, and Dave Jones are actually working real hard to get.   Because they want they don't want people to go off and go, hey.   Here's $5.   They would like to go, okay. Well, here's   5 satoshis every minute   that I listen to your show.  

And so those little 5 cent those 5 satoshis get thrown to you, and if you're got an hour show, you know, that's 5 times   60. So there's,   I don't know, 5 times 300. Yeah. About 33100   satoshis, which doesn't sound like it's a whole lot. And it all honestly, it's not.   But if you have,   you know, a 100 people   who are doing 5¢,   all of a sudden, that 300 becomes 30,000.  

[00:41:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Or 3000.  

[00:41:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. For 100. Yeah. Thirties. Yeah. For a 100, it'd be 30,000. Yeah. Okay. Yay. Well, I did go to Sunray High School, so my math isn't the greatest.   So   but, yeah, it's,   it can it can grow. But anyhow, so   so the   Albie   went thanks to Biden and his and and some of his   his rules that came into play,   It really scared   Albie, and then there was a French   wallet also that was trying to do stuff. And they   and once these rules got in got put into effect, it essentially was taking the   those wallets, and they were fixing that. It made it sound like they were gonna have to start reporting stuff like a bank does.   Oh, yeah. Okay. Because they didn't wanna didn't wanna have,   money laundering and stuff like that, which okay. I get it. But I don't think money law money laundering is   by   5 satoshis a pop   is very economical.  



[00:42:17] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:42:18] Bryan Goodwin:

But, you know, who knows? It is what it is what it is.  

[00:42:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay.  

[00:42:23] Bryan Goodwin:

So   they're   so I'll be really wigged out and was like, alright. Well, we can't be holding on to   doing a custodial   wallet where they have the wallet   personally on their on their stuff, on their server, on that on all that. Because if they're they have a server go down, they lose person's money,   that per they're opening themselves up for lawsuits and depending on how much money it is and and yada yada yada. So they got real nervous about that, and then they decided, you know what? We're not going to do   the custodial wallet anymore.   And back at the   middle of December,   they shut the wallet off.  

Or   yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it's December. It might have been November.   Anyhow, somewhere last year, at the end of last year, they like, okay. We're not doing this. We're gonna do what's called the Albie hub,   which is a   you control the   you can have a hub. It's gonna cost you 10,000   sats every month,   which   if   Bitcoin   falls through the floor again   and is sitting at 20,000,   $20,000   per Bitcoin,   then 10,000 sats will be okay.   But with it sitting, you know, as high as it was,   it was like, yeah. That's that's a chunk of change a month.   And it's gonna be a lot more than what a lot of people willing to pay. So they're   they're now going through trying to find a better way of being able to   do, to do the value for value portion   of,   of the show.  

And so that's where we're at. That's why one reason why I haven't been throwing   much support by or much mentioning Satoshis all that much   is just because, well,   there's not really any way any feasible way with except for   Fountain   and Breeze.   Because Breeze, you actually creating your own wallet   in that app.   It's not the most user friendly app, so that's one re another reason why I don't mention it very much.   But,   but, yeah, there's   the the satoshi stuff is   is a bit on on hold right now, and that's it's really aggravating Adam a bit   because he was having fun. Got the,   got, like, boost a gram ball that's that's going on. They're playing,   music, and you could actually send sets to, the musician as they're playing their song.  

You could even do DJ type stuff.   And   because they are   because the the the   wallet situation   kicked in like it did,   it's putting a little bit of a kibosh on the,   on on everybody being able to send money to to artists and stuff as they create songs.  

[00:45:40] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   okay.   Alright then.   Yeah.   And so   you've been watching the wildfires out in California?  

[00:45:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a bit,   bit of an interesting,   little development. I mean, that's   it doesn't surprise me that it's, that it's happened.   I mean, there's a lot of people   who have done brush management who've been saying, yeah, this is this is gonna be a disaster.   Yeah. Because I and that's one re and but it's funny how everybody keeps wanting to say, oh, it's global warming. It's global warming. No.   There's,   I forget the name of the guy, but there's a guy who was   they they published his journal, and this was back when he, like, in the early 1800.   He was talking about   exploring,   California   and how it had blistering hot days,   freezing cold,   days.  

It was being rocked by earthquakes   and sheets of fire.   Where California   is and the climate that it's in, yeah, it's going to have a shit ton of of   of dead dry plants.  

[00:47:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:47:14] Bryan Goodwin:

And sadly, one thing   that   the environmentalists   don't understand, the green folks who have put up the rules of you we can't be cleaning out the underbrush.   Is it it's gotta be all natural.   Well, there's one little snag in the all natural part.   The moment a fire kicks up, they've gotta get it out that instant. Instead, if you're gonna, if you wanna leave the underbrush   natural,   that's fine, but you also have to let the fire do its job. The fire is the vacuum cleaner of nature.   Yep. Uh-huh. That's one reason why pines,   their bark is all knobby and stuff. It actually withstands,   fire   a hell of a lot better than, like, the birch tree does.  

So it's meant to withstand forest fires. It's meant to withstand, but not   not these scorched earth,   infernos that are going through. Most of the time, it's just a cool   low temperature fire   that's sweeping across the bottom of the, of the   of the, of the forest bed.  

[00:48:23] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[00:48:24] Bryan Goodwin:

But because   the   the land management   has put that in laws that   people can't clear out the forest floor.   And also they've got problem of where they   aren't allowed to trim the keep the trees,   you know, at I at 50,   50 yards or however far away from their house that they need to be at.   The the trees are often sitting just right next to their house.   Yeah. And so, yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of problems with that.   And yeah. Now you talk about like Pacific Palisades. It's all just neighborhood,   but it didn't start in the neighborhood. It started at,   at one of the,   one of the power plants or,   transmission lines.  

Right. Again, because they had   a 100 mile an hour winds, which are typical.   Those are we   they they just call them, 100 mile an hour winds now. Well, I grew up from what everything I ever understood. We   used to, they used to be called Santa Ana winds.  

[00:49:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   K.  

[00:49:40] Bryan Goodwin:

And so they're   the fact that they are calling   the yeah. It's a it's tragedy.   25 people have, have apparently lost their life to it,   but it's not been due to global warming.   It's due to the fact that   the   Land man land managers. Land managers and the and the politicians   have saw seen a picture of a forest and gone, wow. That looks really pretty. We need to protect that. I've never been to a damn forest   has never done anything to manage the land, to keep the land healthy.   Uh-huh. And that's one of the big, I mean, if there's anything that really irks me politically wise, it's just, it's people who have,   have have no freaking clue about,   about mother nature.  

And Yeah. Making policies. Manage it.  

[00:50:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Making policies.  

[00:50:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   And I mean, it's it to to 1,   I'm of a I'm of the the   the line of thought that   God wouldn't make something   that we could destroy.   Yeah. And he has it. Deepwater horizon.   When it went when it went to to   to to pot, and it started bubbling out all all those millions of gallons of of crude oil.   They were expecting any moment now for there to be tar balls washing up onto the, onto the Texas coastline   or the, or the, or the New Mexico or the Mexico coastline.   They were expecting tar balls to wash up anywhere, and they didn't ever show   up. Why?  

Because   the oceans   have more   oil just naturally   bubbling up from the floor   Yeah. Then   I I forget what I've I heard the amount once. I can't remember what it was, but it's something like more than 10 Exxon Valdezes   every hour   that, worth of oil that bubble up from the from the ocean floor.   Yeah. It's some astronomical amount.   And it's   but we don't ever see it. We don't have this giant oil slick. Why? Because the ocean   takes care of the oil.   The oil is Yeah. Not a   is not a a   dinosaur soup like everybody wants to say it is. It's just   a liquid that is formed in the earth.  



[00:52:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Mostly from vegetation.  

[00:52:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Vegetation   or just   made up of just carbon.   They guess that it has to have some type you know, it had to become from a a group of dinosaurs. Why all the dinosaurs died at the bottom of the ocean is beyond me, but, you know, somehow they died, all died at the bottom of the ocean.  

[00:52:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:52:53] Bryan Goodwin:

And and,   and in,   Saudi Arabia   and West Texas.   Why they all decide to gather right there to die to is is a mystery.   Well,   and the re and, but the answers, they didn't, it's just a naturally occurring   substance.   Yeah.   And   are we ever gonna run out? No. I think the earth is just gonna keep producing it.   And   so, but, but we are to think that we are   capable of destroying the earth   is very egotistical.   I mean and some people might be screaming at us going, yeah. Well, if you dropped enough nuclear bombs on everything,   look at that, all the radiation and damage that they did at Chernobyl.  

Can you actually tell that there's anything different there?   No. You could only tell that there used to be   a big plant there.   And they used to be a big, a big town   there. Yep. But trees are growing. There's not trees with eyeballs growing out of them.  

[00:54:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And it's still uninhabitable.  

[00:54:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Well You know? But is it? Because Because there I mean, yeah. Is there chances that there are,   that there's   some   genetic,   mutations that happen because of it? Yeah. But as a whole, there's wild hogs that there that   they have 4 legs, 2 ears, 2 eyes, and 2 nostrils,   a butthole, and and are still able to reproduce.   Yeah.   So I think a lot of that Yes. Yeah. That Fear. And the trees and the vegetation  

[00:54:47] Duuude-Ron :

are taking over   Yeah. That whole that whole area. And just like it you know, the Earth will take back,   you know, something that's abandoned. The earth will, you know, take over it. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Just by just by natural   progression.  

[00:55:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. And I mean, granted, they're they the the Russians did do   what they could, because, I mean, the solution   to pollution is dilution.   And so they did what they could to make sure that they got the the   the dangerous materials   as spread out as possibly as a kid. They diluted the concentration of it down as much as they could.   Yeah.   So and I mean, that's also the reason why,   you know, Fukushima.   I from time to time, I still hear, well, they're fixing. I started having the radiation coming across.   Dude, that's been, like, 11 years ago. It should have already made it across the damn ocean by now.   Yeah. But it's not. Why? Because this earth know God set this earth up to be able to take care of it, to be able to take care of us.  



[00:56:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And we are just  

[00:56:05] Bryan Goodwin:

fucking it over. But are we? Yeah. Are we really? Yeah. Well I mean, they think we are.  

[00:56:11] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you, you look at India, look at all the pollution in the fucking rivers. Yeah. But then the moment they stopped,  

[00:56:19] Bryan Goodwin:

if they if you were to take all those people in in India and got rid of them,   that pollution would clear up   within a year. There would be no evidence that it was that it was as crappy as it was.   So you're not ruining it,   but you also have a bunch of people there. You've got a damn cast system in India.   So you've got people, you've got the Brahmans who walk around going, well, we know everything, and we're you're gonna you're gonna listen to us, and we're gonna make all the rules while your your little young underlings   have no say in anything.  



[00:56:56] Duuude-Ron :

Gee. Sounds like communism.  

[00:56:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah. A bit is, except it's more,   except   they still are expected to there's a lot more expected out of the, out of the underlings. They're the serves,   so they're supposed to do all the work.   Wow. But   but you've got but that's one of the problems with with, like, India is that you've got   you've got the,   the the whole caste system. Instead of letting   the   underlings,   the low man on the totem pole have a, fighting chance to improve themselves.   They're supposed to just stay,   on the load or end of the totem pole.   And so, yeah, you're never going to defeat,   you know, that localized pollution   because the low the poorest people are doing   what they can to just survive.  

Yeah. So, yeah, they're going to shit in the river. They're gonna shit on the side of the street. They're gonna they're gonna pee. They're going to they're gonna cook with   with, you know, everything they can, whether it's, you know, cow poo or, or a, a, a piece of wood.  

[00:58:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:58:17] Bryan Goodwin:

They're gonna do what they can to survive. And that's one reason why   pollution is so higher, so much higher in   the undeveloped areas   because they're just doing what they can to to to make it to the next day.   Now Yeah. You have something like China   who is   a developed nation, but at the same time, they crank out more   more crap than anything else   or than any other country.   And that's a lot. A lot of that is just thanks to the fact that nobody else is doing any manufacturing.  

[00:58:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Well,   China's losing a lot of manufacturers.  

[00:59:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Slowly. Yeah. The people are starting to realize, oh, wait a minute. We don't want we see Chinese. We see piece of   shit.   At least that's how I view it. I see I see made in China. I'm like, oh, okay. Well,   let's, let's see what, what what type of chemicals they put into here. I mean,   I remember what was it?  

[00:59:22] Duuude-Ron :

5 Oh, there we go. Years ago when,  

[00:59:25] Bryan Goodwin:

they had a string of dog foods that were killing dogs because   Chinese   manufacturer was using some chemical that was toxic.  

[00:59:37] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow. Yeah. But their unemployment rate now is fucking just   because all the manufacturer,   major manufacturing   is leaving China Yeah. And going to   Singapore or no, it's going   to Thailand,   Vietnam.  

[00:59:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Any place other than.  

[00:59:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   And,   yeah, their unemployment rate is freaking just   astronomical, and their housing,   overall is   basically crashing.  

[01:00:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   And they've been needing to. They've over extended them. So they over extended themselves back in the early 2000 when people were just starting to,   to talk about shipping,   their manufacturing over to China.   I mean, they were   that's when when they started making ghost cities.   That was evidence of, yeah, we're going to   borrow upon the money that we borrowed.  

[01:00:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:00:42] Bryan Goodwin:

And so, yeah,   the the bills are coming due and   you're seeing proof that, yeah, communism   flat out doesn't work.  

[01:00:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Well, like, telecom,   manufacturer over there, the they're the ones that   that do the iPhones,   you know, make the iPhone.   They are completely   shut down   in China.  

[01:01:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. I didn't know that.  

[01:01:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   You know, are fixing to be,   completely shut down and they're going,   I believe, to   Singapore.   K. No.   Fucking Thailand, I   think. I think they're going to Thailand.   Yeah. They're shutting all the   telecom or telecom   factories,   and those are the ones that make the iPhones.   So we'll see how long it takes to   be   before,   you know, there's a lull in the production of the iPhones and nobody can you know, there ain't gonna be any new iPhones  

[01:02:03] Bryan Goodwin:

or any new iPhones. They'll they'll get it. But, yeah, the production in China,   India and Vietnam   is where they're want they're they're shifting everything over to.  

[01:02:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay.  

[01:02:16] Rich Chelson:

Gentlemen.  

[01:02:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, there he is.  

[01:02:19] Rich Chelson:

I shall not.  

[01:02:21] Duuude-Ron :

Lurking   in the shadows   and not saying a damn thing.  

[01:02:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Damn. Now he's gone. Now I'm gonna get my facts all checked. Shit. Geez, man.  

[01:02:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See, it's how Facebook stopped their fact checking bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna be the fact checker now, Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna be the lone fact checker.  

[01:02:47] Duuude-Ron :

And, you know,   Fact check false? It   the and with the fucking mainstream   media fact checking,   it's like, you know what?   They never fucking fact check shit.   It just if it didn't fit their narrative,   it was   wrong.   There was no fact to it. Yeah. It was false   if it didn't fit their fucking narrative.   You know?   Yeah. That's why I don't watch the fucking news.   You know, I might watch   Fox,   you know, Jesse Waters,   Brett  

[01:03:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Hume. No. Not Hume. Yeah. Brett Hume. Brett Baer. Is it Hume? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't watch Fox. I don't watch Fox or MSN or  

[01:03:39] Rich Chelson:

or CNN or any of the others. Brett Hume was an is is an old   newscaster.  

[01:03:46] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. No. It's Brett. It's Brett. What the fuck is his name?  

[01:03:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. He is old. He's 81 years old now.  

[01:03:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. I know. They am. Yeah.  

[01:03:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I was on the mainstream networks back in the day.  

[01:04:00] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.   You know, but I might watch Fox,   some Fox News,  

[01:04:08] Bryan Goodwin:

anchors. Brett Bear. Yeah. That's it.  

[01:04:11] Duuude-Ron :

Brett Bear. That's one of those.   And   but other than that,   I'm not gonna watch the news.   Yeah.   What   why?   Oh, and talking about the the my point that I was gonna make on the, California wildfires.  

[01:04:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:04:34] Duuude-Ron :

Guess whose house burned down?  

[01:04:38] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't the thing I've been seeing is Ryan O'Neil's house.  

[01:04:42] Duuude-Ron :

Kamala Harris.  

[01:04:46] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[01:04:49] Duuude-Ron :

That's what they said. Wow.  

[01:04:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. No. I was seeing everything about old old Ryan O'Neil, and I was like, Ryan O'Neil. Ryan O'Neil.  

[01:05:01] Duuude-Ron :

Cameron Diaz's house was,   well, on the very edge   of the fire or Right. The house was on the very edge of   her area as well. I don't know if her house burnt, but they   they said that,   Kamala's   house   burnt.   Her my her husband's house.  

[01:05:24] Rich Chelson:

You know, that's you see, that's the thing.   That   I I mean,   I'm sorry for anybody's houses burning, but you chose to build there.   Whatever happens is is   okay. You've got 1,000,000 of dollars. You can rebuild.  

[01:05:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Now that's to a point that's true, but I actually, I came across   a a   a different   view   on this.   Okay.   That's fine. You know, can you buy a kid, could a millionaire buy a new house? Yes.   But what if   I came to your house   and I took   everything you valued,   all your all your radios,   your PlayStation,   your bed,   the memories that you have hanging on your wall,   any awards you may have,   all everything that's that showed up as your life for the past, you know, 50 whatever years,   I put them all in a big old pile,   added some lighter fluid, and lit it on fire.  

[01:06:36] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:06:36] Bryan Goodwin:

How'd we build it? Would you be able to buy   those memories back again?   Would you be able to buy any say you had a couple of,   of awards   for,   for for some contests you've done?   Would you be able to buy those back again?  

[01:06:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yes, sir. You wouldn't.  

[01:06:57] Rich Chelson:

No.   Well, no.   You're right. I wouldn't. But at the same time, I've got them in my head. So as long as you don't kill me   and I'm still living, I still have those memories. Right. No. And I get that. I have them for so long.  

[01:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:

But then and I, I mean, yeah. You're right.   But at the same time, a lot of people, that's that means   a lot to them to have Right. I mean, yeah. Okay. They're they're they're, they're an actor. They but they've got an Oscar,   and they had that Oscar set in there. They worked hard. They got the they got the Oscar through their hard work.  

[01:07:38] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. Can that can that be replaced?  

[01:07:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Honestly, I don't know. That they  

[01:07:45] Duuude-Ron :

oh, yeah. It can be replaced.   Yeah.   Now   can   the one that they get   presented,   can that be replaced? Absolutely not.   But the physical,   you know,   statue   can be replaced.  

[01:08:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, again, I mean, I would you would think it they it could, but, who knows?   You know, and There have been people who have turned around   and have sold had had ran into hard times and they have sold their Oscar.  

[01:08:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Uh-huh.  

[01:08:22] Bryan Goodwin:

So would that mean that's because they sold their Oscar, they could get another one?  

[01:08:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, again, the look at the circumstance. If somebody voluntarily   sells their Oscar because of their name, because they've come into hard times,   no, they shouldn't. They should not get another Oscar.   But because of circumstances   beyond your control,   you would think that, okay,   that would be an exception.   But again, yeah, I don't know.   You know? A Grammy, an Oscar, a Emmy.   Yeah. You know? Emmy, Tony. Yeah. Yeah. Anything like that.   You know, it  

[01:09:07] Bryan Goodwin:

who knows? Shoot. Someone may be happy they got a Razi.   Who knows?  

[01:09:12] Rich Chelson:

Well, true. But you say, Brian, I understand I understand what you're saying.   You know? And and I agree. Yes.   A lot of people out here in the world,   they value material things. Okay. I've had I've had many things   that,   you know, over the years that I've had and wanted to keep that that actually define me,   but they were either lost, stolen, or, you know, broke or whatever.   And I don't know. I've just learned   myself. I've just learned to   you know what? What I have, I'm happy with. I'm glad I have it. If I was to lose it,   I've rebuilt so many times over the years.  

I would just Yeah.   You know? Yeah. Mhmm. And I mean, that's that's where I'm at   versus and and I know and I know not not everybody is where I'm at, you know, mind wise.   Right. God. Because, yeah, my mind goes crazy sometimes.  

[01:10:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well, we know where your mind goes.  

[01:10:21] Rich Chelson:

That too. That too. Yeah.  

[01:10:24] Duuude-Ron :

Squirrel.  

[01:10:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh, squirrel. Squirrel? Yeah. Squirrel bed.  

[01:10:29] Duuude-Ron :

You know, that's like me. I got   all say, all my military awards,   you know, I could fill   several walls   with all my   army combination medals, army achievement medals, my,   meritorious   outstanding volunteer   service medals,   you know, all that stuff. Yeah. I could put those   up on my walls,   but I have   nothing that pertained to my   military career   on my walls   except for one thing, which is my shadow box.   And that was everything that I had on my class a uniform.   I put that in the box, my ribbons,   you know, my,   what the hell was that? Saint Barbara's   medal,   you know, and my coins that I   were awarded over my military career,   all of that's in my shadow box. That's the only thing that's hanging on the fucking walls.  

Everything else is in a 3 ring binder.   Right. You know, but but I have all of those.   You know, my   the basic training certificate or graduation for basic training, I got that.   You know, there's only one   document that I do not have, and I'll never be able to,   get it back,   which is okay.   Everything else is in 3 ring binders.   I know what I did.   I don't have to display them.   On the other hand, I know   a couple of senior ranking officers that had all of their awards   hanging up on their walls.   Okay. That you know what? Knock yourself out. That's if you need to display that, you know, as part of your pride and, you know, that kind of stuff,   hey,   you do   as as Rich would always say,   you do you, boo.  



[01:12:42] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:12:43] Duuude-Ron :

You know, but I choose not to because,   you know,   I don't need to.  

[01:12:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:12:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I just it's not something that,   you know and my   driver of the year,   I got a plaque and a fucking award.   And I could take a picture and send it to you guys. It's a truck that looks like my truck and has cylinders on it.   You know, that's still in the freaking box.   It it ain't displayed any place.   You know?   I just No. I don't I don't need to because, hell, nobody fucking comes here anyway.   Right. Except for me.   You know?   Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:13:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Speaking of that, here in about,   6 to 7 hours, my sister's gonna be here.  

[01:13:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Yay.  

[01:13:42] Duuude-Ron :

They're gonna be what time are they if you're saying 6 or 7 hours, that's like fucking 3 o'clock in the morning.  

[01:13:49] Rich Chelson:

Yep. I that's exactly what I'm saying. They left about Oh, really?   Yeah. They left about 3 o'clock this afternoon, and I don't know. It was probably about 4:30 or almost 5. I   I, I had texted Dee, and I was like I was like,   yellow driving straight through even though I knew the fucking answer to it because Matt's driving.   And   he   he won't stop for fucking nothing. It's like, dude, fucking stop. Get a room and get some rest. Oh, fuck no.   And,   yeah, she texted back and said, yeah. We'll be there early in the morning. I said, okay. Just asking so I make sure to have the coffee on.   So, yeah, I'm not getting much sleep tonight.  



[01:14:31] Duuude-Ron :

No.   Well, it sucks to be you.  

[01:14:35] Rich Chelson:

Hey. That's okay. I get to see the puppies, man. They're freaking bringing Tater Tot and Trooper and Tucker, so I get to see the puppies. I'm happy.  

[01:14:45] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Yo. To hell with Matt and Dee. You just wanna see the puppies.  

[01:14:49] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Yeah. Boys, man. Those are my boys.   I know I'm terrible.  

[01:14:57] Duuude-Ron :

So how long are they staying for? Till Sunday.  

[01:15:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They,   since since Monday is a holiday,   I guess I guess Dee got the holiday off and, Matt had the holiday off.  

[01:15:12] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. So,  

[01:15:15] Rich Chelson:

Dee was   like, let's go see Richard.  

[01:15:19] Duuude-Ron :

And  

[01:15:20] Bryan Goodwin:

she's See his new house.  

[01:15:22] Rich Chelson:

You want that? And and she's bringing my Christmas present, which   I don't know what that is. I'm almost sure it'd be the last   time. Yeah. I've I've got no fucking clue. And,   I figure if, Brit and the kids got me anything,   they would bring it down. So,   you know  

[01:15:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:15:44] Rich Chelson:

But,   and,   dude, I don't know if you saw it. And Brian, did you do it?   Bee's birthday is today.  

[01:15:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I never did get there. I understand that. I'll send it over to her.  

[01:15:59] Duuude-Ron :

No. I I don't know if Freddie's birthday. Not Brett. Brian.  

[01:16:02] Rich Chelson:

Oh, Brian. My Brian. Yeah. I'd call him b.  

[01:16:07] Bryan Goodwin:

I thought oh, okay. I can't I thought you kept saying d.  

[01:16:10] Duuude-Ron :

No.   Like, oh,   Who?  

[01:16:14] Rich Chelson:

Brian. My Brian.  

[01:16:17] Bryan Goodwin:

I can't think of Brian v. V.  

[01:16:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Britt's husband.   You know who Brian is, dude.   You met   him. Oh, no. Maybe he didn't.  

[01:16:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. He has.   He was there the first,   3 years y'all had it.  

[01:16:38] Rich Chelson:

Was it the 1st 3 years? The first 2. Yeah.  

[01:16:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I was gonna say You know, I'd have to I'd have to see a picture of him.   It doesn't ring a bell.  

[01:16:50] Rich Chelson:

He's a half Mexican.   That don't ring a bell? Yeah. No. It doesn't ring a bell.   Okay.   Either way, I mean I mean yeah. No. He's he's, 35 today.  

[01:17:05] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:17:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So   so, yeah, I I totally I think I   had   20  

[01:17:16] Duuude-Ron :

22 people   that   wish me a happy birthday on Facebook.  

[01:17:24] Rich Chelson:

Not that.  

[01:17:26] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I think I wish you a happy birthday. Oh, yeah. You did. You, Brian. Yeah. But I'll I got a total of 22   people. Well, which is fine, you know.   I I sure the hell didn't celebrate it.   It's just another shit. I'm 50 what the hell am I? 57?   56?   I told you how old I was, Rick. How old am I?  

[01:17:52] Rich Chelson:

Fifties 67, dude. 57.  

[01:17:54] Bryan Goodwin:

You're 11ty, man. You're 11ty.  

[01:17:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Oh my god, dude. You fucking killed me, man.   So memories like mine.  

[01:18:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. So I'm 57. The when I turn 57 in December, it's like, okay. I didn't mean it was another fucking day of the week.   You know, I'm   just   getting old.   You know, it's not like I turned   teenage years or I turned to   finally a drinking age year.  

[01:18:32] Rich Chelson:

Well, dude, check this out. Next year,   just start rolling the clock back, man.  

[01:18:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:18:39] Duuude-Ron :

Seriously? Then then I'll then I will never   get social security   ever   If I do that,   I'll I'll never fucking get my social security benefits if I start rolling my age back. You don't want those things anyhow.  

[01:18:59] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean, un unless unless   something gets done by 2034,   it'll be damn near broke as it is because they'll only pay 800 on the 1,000.   So that's the last article I read,   and that was last year.   By 2034,   if nothing's done with Social Security,   if you're supposed to get a1000   a month, you'll only get 800.  

[01:19:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, let's see.   And will I ever recoup everything that I have put into the system? Oh, fuck. No. Yeah. Well, yeah. If you live to be about 90.   Yeah. Yeah. If I live to be, you know, in my nineties, yes, then I will have recouped and   then some.   But, okay, the $800 is better than a kick in the teeth.   Right. Yep.   Now   I don't know how it's how if I'm still fully employed, what I'll get. I don't have a fucking clue.  

[01:20:05] Rich Chelson:

Well, when you hit freaking retirement age,   you'll get, I think, the max.   So  

[01:20:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But it's still based upon your your,   annual   revenue.  

[01:20:20] Rich Chelson:

Your last 40 quarters. Your last 10 years.   So, I mean, if you're still working at Airgas   in 10 years, you'll be 67.   You'll be at retirement age.   You'll get, you know, whatever   the math they use,   which will give you your max,   and,   you can keep working and and not have to pay any money back.  

[01:20:54] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   But if So it doesn't matter how much I make, I'll still get the full what I would have gotten   even if I fully retired.  

[01:21:07] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:21:08] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:21:09] Rich Chelson:

Right. Once you hit once you hit, retirement age.  

[01:21:13] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Yeah. But if you start drawing it before your physical   retirement age, you can't you can't go back and change?  

[01:21:23] Rich Chelson:

No. No. And you see, that's the thing.   Let's say let's say   you started drawing at 62. You would take a pay cut.  

[01:21:34] Duuude-Ron :

Okay? And Yes. Uh-huh.  

[01:21:36] Rich Chelson:

That would stay the same for the rest of your life.  

[01:21:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:21:40] Rich Chelson:

You couldn't for the next 5 years until 67, age 67, because I think you're in that cutoff range   like I am.   When you hit full retirement age,   then you can go and make as much money as you want. It doesn't matter.  

[01:22:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:22:02] Rich Chelson:

But if you take it early you see, that's like me right now. Okay? Because I get SSDI.   Okay. I'll get that until,   I hit retirement age, and then the price doesn't change.   The amount I know I get doesn't change. It'll just switch over to social security. But once I hit retirement age, I can go back to work and make 500   fucking $1,000 a year, and Social Security don't care because Oh, okay. Because I've already hit retirement age.   Oh, okay. They don't care after you hit retirement age  

[01:22:38] Duuude-Ron :

Just before Well, you might you might just invent the next   hula   hoop or Frisbee  

[01:22:45] Bryan Goodwin:

or,  

[01:22:48] Duuude-Ron :

Rubik's cube.   The, you know, the next,   tickle me elbow doll. Who knows?   You must may have bet the next   thing   that everybody has to have.  

[01:23:04] Rich Chelson:

You know, that's that's a poss I I mean, it's not looking good right now, but it's a possibility.   I I I won't I won't shoot that down.  

[01:23:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I mean, you just you may   it may just pop into your head. You have that and look at the Frisbee started as a pie pan anyway.   They just turned it over and started throwing it and then developed into the flying disc that we have today that hasn't really   changed in, what,   70 years, 60 years, some shit like that?  

[01:23:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Something like that. It's yeah. I can't remember when they come out with that.  

[01:23:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So   and, hell, they got   Frisbee golf. Now those discs are a little bit different from the   true Frisbees that they made. Oh, yeah.   But, you know, it's still   a Frisbee, and it's and it's now a   gaining sport.  

[01:24:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:24:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Heck. My son's got his own own,   Frisbee,   golf store open.  

[01:24:19] Duuude-Ron :

I remember you saying something about that.   How big is his store?  

[01:24:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, he's he's utilizing a portion of his grandma's store to to hold his, his store up. But   as a whole, it's I mean,   pretty good size. I think he's got something like 250   different types of discs and stuff, and he's got some, bags and and,   and   and clothing   and stuff like that. So yeah.  

[01:24:50] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. They have clothing for it? Well, I know You know, it's Regular. I know regular golf. Beanies. Just you know, like, it's just  

[01:24:59] Bryan Goodwin:

brand for the brand pump the brand name. So Oh, okay. Latitude 64   or Discmania   or,  

[01:25:08] Duuude-Ron :

what are some of the others? But Yeah. Just like hats and shirts for regular golf. Yeah. For Nike. Things like that. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:25:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I didn't know they went that far into it. Oh, yeah.   Okay.   Guess it's something like pickleball.  

[01:25:27] Bryan Goodwin:

I I know nothing about that game. I have no idea about pickleball. I actually understand,   understand   the,   the disc golf a heck of a lot more than I do,   pickleball.   I mean, the only thing about   about disc golf that I don't, full have not fully graphed yet is their discs run off of a four number system.   And the four numbers   dictate on how well it flies,   how stable of a flight. You could actually have something called being overstable, which I don't know what that exactly means.   And it it's from it could be positive or negative. I mean, I've it it could be,   you know,   4,   7,   minus   3,   6, you know, and those all mean something.  

And you only wanna use, you know, you wanna use a a particular one for a particular reason.   Well, yeah. Well, like a golf clubs. You got Yeah. Yeah. 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, or 4, or 4, or 4, or 4, or 4. Use golf clubs. I mean, they do. They've got 4 different types of discs. They've got your,   you've got your your your distance driver. You've got a fairway driver, you have a a mid range, and you have your putter.  

[01:26:43] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Okay.   I understand all those.  

[01:26:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I understand all those too. But I again, but then you have the numbers for those, and that just   it's like, oh, okay.   Well, I'm I'm just gonna go buy a whammo Frisbee and just eat it down the, down the fairway, and we'll call that good. And he's like, yeah. What does that mean? Like that. Just golf. I'm sorry. I I thought she was talking about golf, dude. I'm like, okay. I'm I'm on track with you there. Now I'm disc golf. I'm  

[01:27:11] Rich Chelson:

out.  

[01:27:12] Bryan Goodwin:

And this I mean, it but it I've gone out with, Jayden and and   while he's, while he's done a couple rounds of of disc golf just so that I would be the kind of photographer and get shots of him of him throwing discs around.   Oh, that'd be cool. Oh, no. It was a lot of fun.  

[01:27:30] Duuude-Ron :

That's cool. I agree. Especially if you get especially if you go through all the trees and you get a hole in 1.  

[01:27:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. It's,   oh, what is it?   I call I think they call them a clinker.   I don't know. Okay. That's I have no clue on the terminology. The reason why they do that is because the basket is a is a basket   that's got chains that hang down to hold the disc at when whenever it enters. So it doesn't just go bounce off and go someplace else.  

[01:28:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. No. I've I've I've seen them because the park I go to when I put a has a disc golf course. But Oh, okay. Okay. I I mean, I've I've seen the   the holes, I guess, you'd call it. You know, the hesitancy and all like that. And I've watched people throw them, but yeah. Because, you know,   9 times out of 10, they're standing out in the middle of the road because that's where the  

[01:28:25] Duuude-Ron :

the, the Frisbee The disc lands?  

[01:28:27] Rich Chelson:

I call them Frisbees. That's where the Yeah. Frisbee landed. So I just stop and let them play through. You know?   You know? I was like, alright. I'll wait. And then, but, yeah, I've seen that. But as far as I've never had   the inkling to   stop and inquire   about the game,   at least not yet.   Yeah.   You know? But, hey, real quick.   I got some sad news.  

[01:28:56] Bryan Goodwin:

What's your guy? Bob Euchre  

[01:28:58] Rich Chelson:

died.   Yeah. I saw that. I was like, I just saw it, and I'm like, oh, no. Not Bob Euchre.   He's fucking awesome.  

[01:29:10] Duuude-Ron :

What did he I know the name, but I don't know what he did. Wasn't he a catcher?  

[01:29:15] Rich Chelson:

No? Well, yeah, back in the day, he played baseball.   I'm not sure what position. I I think maybe catcher.  

[01:29:23] Duuude-Ron :

But, Yeah. He he had commercials. Yeah. He had commercials. Right?  

[01:29:28] Rich Chelson:

Well, not only that, he was he was a a baseball commentator for,   the reds, I think.   Cincinnati Reds   Okay. For fucking years.   And, I mean, he's just   he's just funnier than anything.  

[01:29:47] Duuude-Ron :

And Yeah. He was a spokesman for some product. I don't know what it was. But, yeah, he was a catcher. That was his   The brewers.  

[01:29:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. You're right. He was a catcher.  

[01:29:59] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Because he was always talking about his knees.  

[01:30:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. And he was a a broadcaster for the Milwaukee Brewers.  

[01:30:12] Duuude-Ron :

How old was he when he passed away?  

[01:30:14] Rich Chelson:

90.  

[01:30:15] Duuude-Ron :

90?   Yeah.   Well, yeah,   kind of expected.  

[01:30:21] Rich Chelson:

You know, if you get up. Still, though. I mean I mean, oh, man. Bob Uecker was   he was awesome to listen to. He was funny or anything. Some some of the shit he'd come up with just crack you  

[01:30:34] Duuude-Ron :

up. Oh, yeah.  

[01:30:36] Rich Chelson:

But   yeah. No. I just yeah. I just saw that in a psych, ah, man. I'm bummed.   Okay.   Yeah. It has nothing to do with disc golf, but  

[01:30:47] Duuude-Ron :

No?   Not a thing.   Baseball and disc golf have nothing in common whatsoever.   They're sports. That's okay. They're sports. They're sports. Well, yeah, they qualify up underneath the category of sports. It's not under the category of, you know,   drama or entertainment.   You know?   Well,   look at golf. It's   entertainment, I guess.   Yeah.   There was one teacher I had   in high school.   Did not   English teacher.   You talk about strict.   Nobody   liked her.   But I tell you what, she every year, she would go to the,   the masters   and watch the the,   watch them play the masters.  



[01:31:39] Rich Chelson:

Oh, wow.  

[01:31:41] Duuude-Ron :

So, you know, hey. More power to you.   You know?   I I could play golf. Yeah. I'm not very good. I think I've played it, like,   10 times in my life.   But,   you know, I won't watch it   on television, but I could go out and play it.  

[01:32:03] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I'll watch it on TV. I don't care.   And and when I could move and and and everything like that, I played it. I loved it. I think I think my best round was  

[01:32:17] Duuude-Ron :

91. For 18 holes?  

[01:32:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. 18 holes. Yeah. Yeah.   I mean, that that only happened once because normally I was, like, damn near at a 109.   So yeah.  

[01:32:33] Duuude-Ron :

You know, and the times that I went out and played,   you know, maybe half of them, I kept score   because   and the majority of who I played with was my father-in-law.   But, you know, we didn't keep score. It was   just for the fact of getting out there,   hitting the ball,   and the the value of the exercise.  

[01:33:00] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:33:01] Duuude-Ron :

Right. You know, that he didn't,   you know, he didn't give a shit how many times he had to hit the ball to get it in the hole.   Never never   neither one of us never hit a fucking hole in 1 ever.  

[01:33:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   No. I never did either. I did I did drain a couple birdie putts, so which I was very happy about.   Oh, yeah. A lot of bogeys, double bogeys, triple bogeys,   and pars, but only a couple birdie putts.  

[01:33:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But I I'm I'm about that. You know? I stayed in the bogey level.   Mhmm. Oh, yeah. A couple of pars.   I don't even think I ever got a birdie.  

[01:33:42] Rich Chelson:

You see, the thing is, though,   golf is the only game   where you compete only with yourself.   It doesn't matter how many people are in the fucking field.   You   you only compete with yourself.  

[01:34:01] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I'd have to disagree with you on that one.  

[01:34:04] Rich Chelson:

Okay. No. I mean, that's   that's your choice.  

[01:34:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because   a lot of those,   you know, like archery, shooting,   darts,   You're all you're always playing against yourself on how good you can get that,   you know, get it into the center   of the target.  

[01:34:27] Rich Chelson:

Golf's the same thing.   Yeah. You're right. You know? I mean I mean, this is the way this because, you know, at first, it's like, you know, this guy has beaten me, that guy has beaten me, and then after a while, I was like,   I suck anyway. So guess what?   I've gotta go. I'm I'm gonna hit a birdie.   And next thing you know, I fucking triple boogie later.   You know? It's like, okay. The hole's over. Woo hoo. We're on to the next.  

[01:34:54] Duuude-Ron :

No. On the on the next onto the next hole, maybe I'll get a birdie on this hole.  

[01:35:00] Rich Chelson:

And then fuck. I get a double bogey. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Alright. Well, you know what? I got another hole to try it. Oh, yeah.   Yep.  

[01:35:08] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, I mean, fine. And if you didn't succeed in 18, it's like, well, now I got the next time I go out.  

[01:35:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Or or if you felt froggy, you just   paid for another round and went right back to hole number 1 and tried it again.   Yep. Very true. But I will say though, after playing 18,   I was so relaxed   because   I didn't I didn't give a shit how I did.   You know, I just had fun hitting that ball and going and chasing it.  

[01:35:41] Duuude-Ron :

That that's the whole thing. If you don't work like us that   that golf just casually,   it's not even for   business.   You know?   Yeah,   if you don't keep score and you're just out there to hit that little white ball and see if you can get it into the hole, eventually,   that is   the whole thing.  

[01:36:09] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:36:09] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. And if it doesn't and if it doesn't aggravate you of, you know,   doing that,   hell, there's   a couple holes that I   putted into   using the,   the putter as a pool stick to get the fucking ball in the hole. I did that a couple of times.   Okay. Okay. Now that is just fucking entertaining right there.  

[01:36:32] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I would I would love to see a picture of that.   You know? You lined up on the ball with with the end of your stick, like a pool stick, that would be fucking awesome.  

[01:36:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. I did that, you know, couple times.   Yeah. One time, we were it was a,   military   thing from our,   all the instructors   that I was with. We went out and played golf.   There was a couple of them up. There were very fucking   you know, if they didn't fucking make a birdie, oh, they were fucking   pissed.   Hell, there's one one of the guys I will never forget this. On hole number 2,   on the on the tee,   he brought a baseball bat out.   You know, threw the ball up in the air   and fucking hit the ball with a baseball bat   right down the fucking fairway.  

[01:37:28] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.  

[01:37:30] Duuude-Ron :

You know, and, he brought that out. I'm like, I just rolled my eyes. I'm like, yeah. Okay. We're now bringing the baseball bat. And 1 guys   sliced it so bad.   I mean, it it instead of going straight, it went   90 degrees   and went and hit the golf cart.   And a couple of the guys that were there for fucking were scrambling, fucking hitting the deck   because that fucking golf ball was banging around in the golf cart.   Oh, man. That was fucking hilarious.   That dude had never played golf before in his life.  

[01:38:09] Rich Chelson:

That sounds like the first time I ever hit a fucking golf ball. I lined up on the tee   playing with,   you know, one of my buddies and his brother.   And,   I'm like I'm like, what do I do? He's like, just hit it, man. Just fucking hit it. Now I fucking reared back and I hit that bitch. And I thought, oh, fuck. Yeah. It's going straight. I'm I'm watching it. It goes out about a 100 yards,   90 degrees to the right.   I was like, oh my god.  

[01:38:38] Duuude-Ron :

And Now that is a fucking that actually is   very   impressive to fucking be able to have a spin   on a golf ball   that fucking veers at 90 degrees.  

[01:38:51] Rich Chelson:

I mean, seriously, it was I mean, I was like, oh, it's going straight. It's beautiful. It's and and it was starting its upward climb. And then all of a sudden, it just 90 degrees   to the right and went in the trees. I just saw oh my god. What the fuck did I do? But I went and I went and found it.   And I found about 5 other golf balls, and I threw them in my bag too.  

[01:39:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well, of course.  

[01:39:17] Rich Chelson:

You know?   But yeah. No. That was that was my first golf hit. So   and I fell in love with the game after that.  

[01:39:25] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.   It is it is a fun game. It is. Just like any other sport, you know, me going out and wheeling is you could qualify that as a sport.   It's expensive.  

[01:39:38] Rich Chelson:

Yes. And now now you see though the thing is, though,   when I went to play golf,   the most money I spent,   well, when I first started, I went out and bought a set of gloves   for,   what, $220,   brand new from Walmart. Yeah.   And greens fees were, like, $18   with a cart   for 18 holes.  

[01:40:05] Duuude-Ron :

That's cheap. Bad. That is waste fee. With a with a cart, that's that is cheap.  

[01:40:11] Rich Chelson:

Right?   So I mean, I was I was playing cheap. I I I didn't play them expensive courses.   Oh, hell no. I think I think I think the most I ever paid was   $40  

[01:40:24] Duuude-Ron :

for green fees.  

[01:40:26] Rich Chelson:

That was it. Oh, yeah. Fuck you.   No. No. I didn't. I didn't play the 100, $200,   $400   green fees.  

[01:40:35] Duuude-Ron :

Oh. Fuck that shit. You know? Right.   You   know, Citi course.  

[01:40:42] Rich Chelson:

Right. Exactly.  

[01:40:45] Duuude-Ron :

Now would I go and play on one of Trump's courses?   No.   I'm sure the green fee on one of his courses is   few $100,   3, 4, $500 for 18 holes. No fucking thank you.  

[01:41:00] Rich Chelson:

I would if he paid for it.  

[01:41:04] Duuude-Ron :

Well, if somebody, you know, offered me   a day of golf and I didn't pay for it,   yeah, I would.   I'm not gonna pay for it myself.   I don't think so.  

[01:41:19] Rich Chelson:

You know? And and, I mean, honestly,   I would have more fun   on   the smaller courses.  

[01:41:28] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   Yeah.  

[01:41:31] Rich Chelson:

I I just would.   I don't know why. It just I just I would.  

[01:41:37] Duuude-Ron :

Well, hell, those courses are designed for   one round of golf   for a fucking   several $1,000,000   business deal.  

[01:41:53] Rich Chelson:

Do what? You lost me.  

[01:41:56] Duuude-Ron :

The golf course is   the one sport   that makes   the most   on 1,000,000 and $1,000,000,000   business deals   is on a golf course.   Yeah. True.   So   but I'm not that smart of a guy to, you know,  

[01:42:22] Rich Chelson:

to do that.   I just wanna hit a golf ball. That's all I wanna do. I Yeah. That's it. I'm good.  

[01:42:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. That's all I wanna wanna do.   Yeah. No. Just go out there and hit a ball and   Run a flat. After it And, you know, and just chase after it and and hit it again, chase after it, and just   continue.  

[01:42:49] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   As long as I have a cart because I ain't fucking walking.  

[01:42:54] Duuude-Ron :

I think I don't   I've had a cart twice the other   7 or 8 times I walked it.  

[01:43:02] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. No. No. I had a cart, man. I always had a cart.   Oh.   Yeah. It's just   I don't know. I just I've  

[01:43:12] Duuude-Ron :

I like You know? And the and the times that   yeah. And the times that the two times that I had a card,   I played fucking   a lot worse   than I did if I walked it.  

[01:43:28] Rich Chelson:

Oh, really?   Mhmm.   Yep.  

[01:43:33] Duuude-Ron :

Don't get me to lie to you. It just my golf game was worse if I had a cart   versus   walking it.   Yep.  

[01:43:44] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:43:45] Duuude-Ron :

And now these days, yeah. You know, it wouldn't matter like you.   I'm gonna fucking use a card   to go chase that ball.  

[01:43:56] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Oh, yeah.   Oh, yeah. No.   Uh-huh. I'm I'm I you say that thing, though, when I play?   I don't give a damn what my   golf score is.   I just go   I just go  

[01:44:12] Duuude-Ron :

and, hit the ball and go play. Yep. And just have fun.   Yep.   Yep. Don't worry about the score.  

[01:44:20] Rich Chelson:

Nope.   I mean, I'll keep score just to see where I'm at, but  

[01:44:26] Bryan Goodwin:

that's about Oh, yeah. Because you gotta pay keep your keep score just so you know what to brag about.  

[01:44:33] Duuude-Ron :

I never bragged.   I didn't have it. I did not have any fucking room to brag. That's for damn sure.  

[01:44:41] Rich Chelson:

Dude, I can always find something to brag about. Oh, hell yeah.   Yeah. I don't care. I and and I don't I don't care if anybody else agrees with me or not. But I gotta   I wanna brag about my golf game. I'm a brag.  

[01:44:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, yeah. I I I, you know, I can understand that. And I don't care what anybody thinks.   Yep. If they got a,   you know, a 50 and you got a   79   and your 79 was better than the 102   that you did   the time before, well, yeah, that's you know, you got bragging rights. That's true. Fuck. Yeah. I do.  

[01:45:21] Rich Chelson:

I'm bragging to everybody.  

[01:45:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:45:24] Rich Chelson:

You know? Fuck yeah.   But, normally, I was at 150, and then if I got down to even 120, oh, shit. Game over, man. I'm like drinking beer and partying because I hit a 120.  

[01:45:38] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh. Yeah.  

[01:45:39] Rich Chelson:

You know?   But, yeah, like I said, I think I think,   yeah, my best score, if I remember right, is, the god. This was back in the early 2000   when I was playing,   and I played quite a bit.   Yeah. My best score was a 91 for 18, and I was like, I was blown away. I'm like, nah. There ain't no way.   Because normally, I was, you know, 110 and above.   Yeah.   You know?  

[01:46:09] Duuude-Ron :

So You just had a an extremely good day.  

[01:46:13] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I did. I think I think I think   that day that day was, one of the days I sunk my birdie   birdie butt from beef and the foot.  

[01:46:25] Duuude-Ron :

Well, there you go.  

[01:46:27] Rich Chelson:

Oh, man. I I   was stoked on top of that.   It's like, fuck.  

[01:46:32] Duuude-Ron :

Drain it. Oh, yeah. After you get But for after you get done pounding all the, you know, grass down on the, on the green,   yeah, the ball's just gonna follow that path.   Alright. So, you know?  

[01:46:46] Rich Chelson:

Hey.   Whatever works, baby. Whatever works.  

[01:46:49] Duuude-Ron :

There you go. You know, you have your little hand scissors and you cut a little path down to the fucking hole. Hey. You, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. That's right. You're still gonna get that party one way or another.   There you go.  

[01:47:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I yeah. No. I I was   I was wanting to play more, but work got busy, and then I started driving truck again. And   and then, yeah, life got in the way and yeah. So   it's like, yeah. It sucks. But, alright, whatever. I'll find something else to play.  

[01:47:24] Duuude-Ron :

Seems that, you know,   that just seems to always happen. Work gets in the way.  

[01:47:29] Rich Chelson:

I know. Right?   You know, that's where that's where I think   that's where I think   we just need to boycott work   and still have them pay us   because we've we've earned that right.  

[01:47:46] Duuude-Ron :

Absolutely.   I don't know what company would possibly do that, but, you know, hey. You know? I'm sure.   Who knows?  

[01:47:56] Rich Chelson:

There has to be someone out there that that will pay you to sit around and do nothing.  

[01:48:06] Duuude-Ron :

You know what?   With the with the   with the work ethics of the kids these days,   yeah, they come to work, don't do anything, get paid for it.  

[01:48:18] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, maybe we need to ask them how how do they do it.  

[01:48:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No shit.   That would you know, I think that would just drive me   utterly   insane.   I I don't think I could ever do  

[01:48:37] Rich Chelson:

that. Well,   well, if you had Facebook, you could look at Facebook all day because,   what I'm reading and hearing,   I'm not sure if it's true, but I guess we'll find out on Sunday.   TikTok is supposed to be banned in America.   In fact in fact, TikTok is even   saying they're they're fixing to shut   shut,   TikTok done in America.   Not sure   what truth there is to that, but that's what the articles are   saying.  

[01:49:17] Duuude-Ron :

You know, and I I'm sure, you know, and I re I don't have I've never had a face or a TikTok   account.   So I don't know, but, you know,   how many of the videos   on, say, Facebook   that I watch,   how many of those are generated   through,   TikTok?  

[01:49:43] Rich Chelson:

A lot of them. I haven't  

[01:49:46] Duuude-Ron :

A lot of them. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And if TikTok goes down,   will those videos that come across my Facebook feed,   will they still be,   you know,   be able to be viewed?   I don't know. I don't  

[01:50:03] Rich Chelson:

know. Because,   see, I just I just read an article, I think it was earlier today or yesterday,   late yesterday,   that,   actually, congress paying TikTok,   supposed to be starting on January 19th. And,   I saw an article saying that,   TikTok   was, shutting   shutting down. I didn't   read real close into the article,   but, it said TikTok was,   shutting TikTok down on Sunday, 19th.   So   if it does, I'd I'd I'm not sure,  

[01:50:43] Duuude-Ron :

but  

[01:50:45] Rich Chelson:

that's kinda what   it was,   kinda saying.  

[01:50:50] Duuude-Ron :

Well, if it does, I won't be missing a thing.  

[01:50:55] Rich Chelson:

You know, dude,   I don't watch TikTok much,  

[01:51:00] Duuude-Ron :

but I don't have a ticket. No. I don't watch TikTok at all unless it comes up on my Facebook feed. I don't have a TikTok account.   You know?  

[01:51:10] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean, believe it or not, the reason I don't watch TikTok is because it is a time waster. Oh my god. You'll lose 2 hours in a minute.  

[01:51:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:51:23] Rich Chelson:

I'm serious, dude. Oh, I know.   You'll you'll lose   you'll lose 2 hours in a minute.  

[01:51:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Well, that's like how many the how many of the videos that I have sent to you on Facebook that, you know,   I have successfully wasted   17 seconds of your life   by sending you this video   or 7 seconds of your life wasted   just because you watched this video that I sent.  

[01:51:57] Rich Chelson:

Right.   You know, that's fine if it's once in a while and see this is why because I've got the TikTok app on my phone. I could watch TikTok,   but I know that that if I'm not careful   yeah. I mean,   anything I   I thought I might wanna get,   excuse me,   thought I might wanna get done for the day?   Yeah. That's not gonna happen.   Not gonna happen. No. It's not gonna happen because next thing I know, it's like 5 o'clock and yeah. Yeah. My brain's off by then.  

[01:52:33] Duuude-Ron :

It's like, yeah. Nope. So I'm gonna let I'm gonna let Brian   answer this question.  

[01:52:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[01:52:41] Duuude-Ron :

And we'll see what his response is.   What is the only   what is the only commodity   that once it is gone can never be   replaced?   That'd be time.   Yep.   Time. Yep.  

[01:53:00] Rich Chelson:

2 seconds in a day do you have?  

[01:53:03] Duuude-Ron :

Do what?  

[01:53:04] Rich Chelson:

How many seconds in a day do you have of time?   I don't fucking know.   86,400.  

[01:53:14] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:53:15] Rich Chelson:

I just had to say it so I could sound smart. I'm sorry.   Call me facetious.   Yeah. Fair. Or whatever. I don't care.  

[01:53:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And you will   if you piss it away,   you will never get that commodity back. Nope. Doesn't matter   how hard you try.  

[01:53:34] Rich Chelson:

But it resets every day.   You're right.   So  

[01:53:40] Duuude-Ron :

But you can't get tomorrow back. Well, no.  

[01:53:43] Rich Chelson:

Tomorrow's tomorrow. Are we on this again?   Oh my god.  

[01:53:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah, Felicia. They're on this again.  

[01:53:54] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I'm sorry   that I brought up the fucking question.   God.  

[01:54:01] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god. You it it's freaking 9 o'clock at night, and you're fixing to try   and brain fuck me again.  

[01:54:10] Duuude-Ron :

Philosophies   solotify  

[01:54:13] Bryan Goodwin:

you.   De philosophize by Ed Haney.  

[01:54:20] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.   Oh, lord have mercy.  

[01:54:24] Duuude-Ron :

I I can only imagine if we woulda   had this podcast   tomorrow night   as well.   So everything that we've said   tonight and because you're gonna get limited sleep tonight with   your sister coming in,   just think what your mind is gonna be like if we had a podcast tomorrow night. Oh, that would be fun.  

[01:54:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh god.   Yeah. I'd be I'd be probably yeah. I'd be snoring probably.  

[01:54:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Have to hook up a couple more microphones just to throw let everybody in.  

[01:55:03] Rich Chelson:

An open mic night. Exactly.  

[01:55:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Text  

[01:55:07] Rich Chelson:

all to us and Garrett and Scott. Hey. Jump on in.  

[01:55:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We should do that. We should try that one time.   See how many people we could get together   on a podcast.  

[01:55:27] Rich Chelson:

Oh, we could And actually quite a few.  

[01:55:31] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I'm sure we could.   Hey, Brian. It would be it would be interesting. That's for sure.  

[01:55:38] Rich Chelson:

How many pea well,   say, you pay for Zoom. Right? Yeah.   Oh, shit. We could have up to a 100 people then. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:55:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:55:52] Rich Chelson:

I don't know a 100 motherfuckers, but, you know, someone might.  

[01:55:57] Duuude-Ron :

I don't fucking know a 100 motherfuckers.  

[01:56:00] Bryan Goodwin:

I was gonna say, well, I know a 100 I know a 100 folks. Whether they would answer the phone or not is a different question altogether.  

[01:56:08] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Or or Right. Or agree   to or agree to come on.  

[01:56:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly. Well, yeah, that too. That well, that would be the other problem. You might I might get some of the folks who got pissed off here recently, and they go,   yeah.   I would like to be on your podcast. You know what? This son of a bitch actually went off and did.   This dude likes to pick his nose and eat his boogers. You wouldn't believe how many times he just shoves a finger up his nose. It's disgusting.  

[01:56:38] Rich Chelson:

I didn't say I ate them.   I didn't like pick my nose. You can't see me, man.  

[01:56:46] Duuude-Ron :

Hey. But here here is,   here is the question, though. Which is better,   picking your nose or picking your butt?  

[01:56:56] Rich Chelson:

It depends on which feels better at the tone. Yeah. I know.  

[01:57:02] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, come on. You didn't get good proper wipe in there. Boy, that itchiness, but   a a good paper a good solid paper towel just comes in real handy.  

[01:57:12] Rich Chelson:

So Oh, yeah.   I hate  

[01:57:16] Bryan Goodwin:

I hate sleep. And all the guys are going, oh god. Yeah.   And all the women who might be whistling are going, ew.  

[01:57:25] Rich Chelson:

It's like, yeah. Come on, girls. Don't don't even go there. You know you've been there just like us.  

[01:57:33] Duuude-Ron :

Hey. When you gotta when you gotta pick your butt, you gotta pick your butt.   Yes. There ain't there ain't  

[01:57:42] Rich Chelson:

no. There ain't just there ain't no two ways around it. You gotta pick your butt, you gotta pick your butt. And it doesn't matter where we're at either. You know, when it when it needs picking it, it needs it. It can't wait.  

[01:57:55] Bryan Goodwin:

No. He can't. Your nose can wait, but your butt no. I don't know. Well, you can you can blow your nose pretty much, and that'll that'll clean the house pretty well.  

[01:58:06] Rich Chelson:

Normally, yes.   Yeah.  

[01:58:09] Bryan Goodwin:

But Blowing your butt   It's it's a different character altogether.  

[01:58:16] Rich Chelson:

Oh god.   Oh, lord have mercy.  

[01:58:21] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, lord. Well, you definitely and you definitely wouldn't wanna use a hanky and put it back into your pocket. That's for damn sure. No. No. No.  

[01:58:31] Rich Chelson:

Definitely not.  

[01:58:33] Bryan Goodwin:

That That goes straight to the trash.   Yeah. That's a good one. We'll burn that one later.  

[01:58:40] Rich Chelson:

Or just or or just pull the Zippo out and light it on fire right then. Light it on fire out there and drop it in the   Let it burn. And as it gets down closer, drop it in the toilet. Yeah. We're good. Okay. We're good. Yeah?   Let's just hope you don't have a smoke alarm in the bathroom.  

[01:59:01] Duuude-Ron :

I mean Oh, no. I don't have one in the bathroom.  

[01:59:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Thank god I don't either.  

[01:59:06] Duuude-Ron :

No kidding. After eating a fucking Taco Bell or,   you know, some,   or what are those beef sticks? Slim Jims.   Yeah. Slim Jims. Oh,  

[01:59:18] Rich Chelson:

dude. Fucking Taco Bell is just rude on the ass anymore.  

[01:59:22] Duuude-Ron :

No. I know.   And for me, Slim Jims because of the Tabasco sauce and my stomach   oh, yeah.   Yep.   That'll take me out if I have   now I buy the real small ones   and might have those every once in a while.   Mhmm.   So   but, yeah, if I have one of the big ones, yeah, no. I'm done.   That's like a friend of mine. He,   plants in his,   garden peppers, and he'll have,   oh, probably 30   varieties of peppers.   And some of those peppers that he plants   oh, yeah. No.   I if I eat one of those damn things   that he what is it? Dragon's breath?  

[02:00:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Don't catch me lying. I'm not a word of that though.   Yeah. Yeah. I think I've got a big one. Is  

[02:00:21] Duuude-Ron :

is over   a1000000   on the Scoville   rating.   Right.   Yeah. No. Me? That? Yeah. No. I would just be   yeah.   My hole would be screaming,   be blowing out fire.  

[02:00:41] Rich Chelson:

And it's the name dragon's breath.  

[02:00:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And he can eat   those   like they're nothing.  

[02:00:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. More   yes. Because he doesn't have any taste buds. He's done burnt them off.   I mean, you know, I mean, fuck.   Throw your food in a blender and suck it down. You ain't gonna taste nothing.  

[02:01:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. He did.   There's a couple of them. And I don't know. I the only one that I remember was Dragon's Breath.   And but he he   plants some fucking hot peppers.   I don't remember the name of it, but it's over 3,000,000 on the Scoville.   Damn.   That's the hottest one, EVA,   plants.  

[02:01:26] Rich Chelson:

Say, I like flavor, but, yeah, when it gets that high, that's just hot.   It's like there's no flavor in it. You can't taste nothing because it's so hot. It's done it's done burnt any flavor that it thought about having.   And that's before you eat it.  

[02:01:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:01:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I know.  

[02:01:50] Duuude-Ron :

No.   You can do it. Me, it would just burn up my system. So I don't even don't even not even don't even do any peppers for shit.   Maybe a bell pepper every once in a while, but, hell, that's what? 30 on the Scoville?  

[02:02:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I yeah. I don't I don't even pay attention to that. I mean, I'll do jalapenos.   They're good. I love them.   Nope. Can't do those either. Oh, really? And even even gonna try. What about Nana peppers? Oh, Nana peppers are the bomb, man.  

[02:02:23] Duuude-Ron :

No. Never   had one.  

[02:02:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh, dude. Nana peppers? They're like real light on the they're not even hot.   They're just a little spicy.   I mean, a little.   Little more than a, bell pepper.   But   Oh, okay. They have good flavor.   Yeah. They ain't they ain't too bad.   Yeah. Nana peppers and jalapenos.   That's it.   I'll get nana peppers on my pizza sometimes.   Right.   When I want that little tang, you know?   Yeah. I like that.  

[02:03:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I get some of the peppercinis in there.   The what? The peppercinis.  

[02:03:09] Rich Chelson:

One sec.  

[02:03:12] Bryan Goodwin:

You ever go off and have,   they're the they they're kinda they're yellowish a lot like, like banana peppers are,   except they usually seem to be full somehow, always full of vinegar.   And when you bite into them, trying to think of what,   I think you can usually get them, whenever you get your salad at Olive Garden.  

[02:03:36] Rich Chelson:

I've only been to Olive Garden once in my life. Yeah. It's been I've been or once.  

[02:03:41] Bryan Goodwin:

15 years since I've been doing Olive Garden. But Okay. So Yeah. The yeah. The pepper that they give you with your salad. Yeah. Yeah. Those are peppericinis.  

[02:03:49] Rich Chelson:

Oh.   Okay.   Yeah. I think that tasted like a nana pepper to me.   So   Or or, maybe that is a Nana pepper and  

[02:04:05] Bryan Goodwin:

well, banana peppers   are That was not not banana.  

[02:04:10] Duuude-Ron :

Nana.  

[02:04:11] Bryan Goodwin:

The Nana peppers are they're they're yellow,   but they're they're usually fairly long.   Like, maybe about, about 6 inches.  

[02:04:22] Rich Chelson:

Oh, fuck. No.   Not the ones I eat. They're short.  

[02:04:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. You've been probably grabbing the peppericinis because banana peppers are sweet.  

[02:04:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. These ain't sweet. I mean, they got they got a very light amount of heat to them. Okay. Yeah. Those are peppercinis then. Oh, okay. Well, then Come on. Get it straight, man. Come on. You're gonna use her up? I don't know, man. I just I I just known them. Hey. Subway calls them Nana Peppers. Okay? So that's what I call them. Nana Peppers.  

[02:04:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well, there you go.   Don't care what anybody else refers to them as. I'm gonna refer to as this.   As this.   Absolutely. My in that's my English.  

[02:05:09] Rich Chelson:

Right. Well, by God, if if if I got a member a new name, I'm fucked.  

[02:05:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I'll give you that. Okay. See? So  

[02:05:19] Rich Chelson:

they're freaking Nana Peppers.  

[02:05:22] Duuude-Ron :

There you go.   My god.   That's like trying to remember all the   all of the folks that work at my plant. Hell, I don't even know half their names anymore.  

[02:05:34] Rich Chelson:

Well,   you you know an easy way to, to remember them, dude?   Assign a food to them.   Like Assign a food to them. Yeah. Like like like an eggplant head,   you know, watermelon head   or, you know,  

[02:05:54] Bryan Goodwin:

you know Dickhead. And eggs.  

[02:05:56] Duuude-Ron :

Dickhead.  

[02:05:58] Rich Chelson:

Well, that too. You know? I mean   so  

[02:06:02] Duuude-Ron :

you know. Hey, y'all. I think that's what a majority of them. That's what their names are.   Yeah. Look here, Ziggy.  

[02:06:11] Rich Chelson:

But the thing is is you have to be able to distinguish between them.   So that's why I say use foods   and pick either food you like or don't like. And, you know, if you have foods that you don't like, you see, that would be hard for me because I like all food.   I I just I'll I I like all food.   So Yep.   Yeah. See, I couldn't do that   because   I would have a hard time hating anybody because I would like all the food I'd call them.  

[02:06:43] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it's not that I don't hate the associates that I work with. They   they hate me.   That's okay.   I'll deal with it.   Well,   can't fix stupid.  

[02:07:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But duct tape can keep it quiet.  

[02:07:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Good point. Good point.  

[02:07:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Duct tape will definitely push it up, and   and a bat will,   it won't fix it, but it will  

[02:07:18] Rich Chelson:

slow it down extremely.  

[02:07:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Well, it depends on where you smack them as to Well, that's true. Yeah. You know, if it's just a matter of It's more for the add attitude adjustment type shit.  

[02:07:38] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's slowing down then, at least.  

[02:07:41] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So we can slow down stupid with a bat. Okay.   There we go. Alright. I can agree with that.   But, yeah, you're right. Duct tape? Yeah. You can definitely silence it with duct tape.   I like that.  

[02:07:57] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Say,   next week, I'll have more ideas.   Maybe.   Maybe.   Maybe. Riches   tip of the day.   Oh,   no.   I'm not promising that one.   That's a that's a crapshoot right there, dude.   I'll be I'll be working at 7 or 11 and I'll roll snake eyes now. Fuck. I'm out.  

[02:08:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's not a bad idea. I didn't think about that.   Right. Do dude's tip of the day.  

[02:08:36] Rich Chelson:

There you go.   Brian, mark that down for us. Alright.  

[02:08:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Marked there.  

[02:08:45] Rich Chelson:

Dude's tip of the day. I like that.  

[02:08:51] Duuude-Ron :

We can Now I have to now I have to actually, think of something   constructive   to   make a statement of.  

[02:09:02] Rich Chelson:

Google, man.   Google.  

[02:09:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Might have to might just have to do that.  

[02:09:09] Rich Chelson:

GTS, man. Google that shit.  

[02:09:14] Duuude-Ron :

Google that shit.  

[02:09:16] Rich Chelson:

GTS, baby.   That's it. Alright.  

[02:09:19] Duuude-Ron :

Is that is that kinda like an LOL?  

[02:09:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But a whole lot cooler.  

[02:09:27] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Hey, Brian. You're gonna have to remind me on Wednesday night so I don't forget to make sure that I have my I had to remind.   Alright. Alright. Well, I'll have to write it down.   Okay. Forbid.  

[02:09:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I gotta go through it and make a jingle.  

[02:09:52] Rich Chelson:

Oh, dude. That'd be cool.   That would be cool.  

[02:09:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Great advice for you and me.  

[02:10:01] Rich Chelson:

Dude's tips of the day.   Just you see.  

[02:10:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Something like that.  

[02:10:09] Rich Chelson:

Man, that that's like that's like,   classic eighties sitcom music, dude,   with the western feel.  

[02:10:19] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, I can give   the tip of the day today   because of what's coming up in the very near future.   Do not eat   the yellow snow.  

[02:10:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Dude, that's just that's rude, man. That's rude.  

[02:10:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're right.   It's And they're predicting   they're predicting several inches in Dallas on Tuesday.   Now that's  

[02:10:50] Bryan Goodwin:

shit. How dare you? Stop it right now.  

[02:10:54] Rich Chelson:

How dare you talk  

[02:10:56] Bryan Goodwin:

talk that next because you know, everybody's talking about how it's supposed to be going   south. There you go. We don't need we don't need rich   hightailing out of the country yet.  

[02:11:10] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, and here's another reason why rich cannot leave.  

[02:11:14] Rich Chelson:

Oh, please do tell.  

[02:11:17] Duuude-Ron :

Because you wouldn't fucking ever be on time for a fucking podcast.  

[02:11:22] Rich Chelson:

Why? How do you know?  

[02:11:25] Duuude-Ron :

I don't  

[02:11:26] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't know. You're right. I would He's just guessing.  

[02:11:30] Rich Chelson:

I would be I would be I would be I would be taking a CSC.  

[02:11:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because if you go to Taiwan, how many hours is that ahead of?   Fucking   19 19 hours ahead?  

[02:11:46] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shit. I'd be in the Friday morning, wouldn't I? Or Friday afternoon?   Yep. No. Probably afternoon.  

[02:11:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yep. Because Korea   was 18 hours ahead of central time,   if I remember correctly, when I was stationed over in Korea.  

[02:12:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Something like that. But, yeah, it was like it was like,   well, let's just say this. When, my mom would call me   on my birthday,   whatever day that was at, like, 7, 8 o'clock in the morning,   It was, like,   3:30 or 4   the next morning   over in Korea.  

[02:12:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, wow. Yeah.  

[02:12:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:12:33] Rich Chelson:

There, of course. The fuck you're calling me.  

[02:12:36] Duuude-Ron :

No shit. It's me see especially seeing how it was no longer your birthday.  

[02:12:40] Rich Chelson:

Right. And that's exactly what I was saying. I thought y'all forgot about me.   Oh.  

[02:12:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That was mom, that was yesterday.   No. It isn't. It's today.   Right. No, mom. It was yesterday.   That that would definitely fuck somebody's brain up right there.  

[02:13:03] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean I mean,   all it says, Thailand is 12 hours ahead of Washington DC.   So right now No. And   Yeah. That'd be I just looked it up, dude. I I freaking GTS ed it, dude. I Googled that shit.   It's and in Washington DC right now, it's 10:14   PM.  

[02:13:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:13:26] Rich Chelson:

10:14   AM,   Friday morning.   So, yeah, they are 12 hours ahead.   Yeah. So Okay.   But yeah. No. You say my mom would call me and, of course, sing happy birthday to me, and she's like, happy birthday,   you're   I'm like, mom, you do know it's like 3:30 in the freaking morning. And I gotta get up at, like, 5:30. Right? Yeah. Okay. I'll let you go. I love you, mhmm.   It's a fucking lot.   Oh, yeah. It's like, yeah. Perfect timing. Well, I didn't even think about it. No.   You should've thought about it. You   I've been over here for for a while.   Oh, yeah. No. It was yeah. It was yeah. It was crazy.  

Struggle, man. The struggle's real.   The struggle's real. It is, man. It's the struggle is fucking real.   So, yeah, it's, yeah, it's Friday morning   over in Thailand.   So,  

[02:14:35] Duuude-Ron :

let's see. Okay. So look look it up for Korea and Washington.  

[02:14:41] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Hang on a sec.  

[02:14:44] Duuude-Ron :

I thought it was 18 hours. If not, it's only 11 hours.  

[02:14:50] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. We'll find out.   Okay.   15.   15 hours ahead of Pascagoula, Mississippi.   So   it is   12:15   Friday morning in South Korea.   It's it's it's 9:15 now,   our time,   and it's   it's   it's 12:15   in the afternoon on Friday.  

[02:15:24] Duuude-Ron :

I thought that   Thailand was more,   west   of Korea.   You know? Or east east of Korea.  

[02:15:40] Rich Chelson:

Funny you should say that.   Let me ask you this question.   Which is further west?   Which is further west?   Las Vegas, Nevada, or Los Angeles, California?  

[02:15:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Nevada, actually.  

[02:15:58] Rich Chelson:

Technically, Brian's right.   If you lay the map out flat, because pilots have to know this,   you know, when they're flying.   Las Vegas is actually the furthest city west   on the map   than LA is. LA is closer than Las Vegas.   It's weird. I know, but it's true. I've looked it up.  

[02:16:25] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   I should look that up sometime.  

[02:16:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Look it up because,   yeah, pilots have to know that because,   it's   it's something to do with the curvature of the Earth   and everything. Uh-huh.   Yep. But, yeah, Las Vegas is actually further west than LA.   Even though   even though if you look at the map of the US,   you'd think LA and San Diego would be the furthest west. Now   it's weird.  

[02:16:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh,  

[02:17:01] Duuude-Ron :

I will definitely have to look that up.  

[02:17:03] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Now now the thing is drive time. Yes.   LA, San Diego, all that is further driving,   but flying,   Las Vegas is further.   I don't, yeah, I don't quite understand.   Uh-huh. I never have.  

[02:17:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, if you were if you look at the,   at the see what's longitudinal   lines,   you've got Nevada is actually   further west longitudinal   longitudinal   speaking than than what   than what LA is. Yeah.  

[02:17:50] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's where   that's where it gets   you know? As far as cars go, it doesn't matter because cars don't worry about the logic. Logic.   You   have to get that nasally   sound in there when you say logic takedown.   At least I have to get that nasally sound.   I don't know about anybody else, but that's me.   But, yeah, cars don't care about the.   Yeah. That word.  

[02:18:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Longitude,   the long ways, the up and down lines.  

[02:18:31] Rich Chelson:

There you go. See, that's a whole lot easier, the up and down lines.   But it does not. Using   using those words, the up and down lines,   will confuse a ham radio operator every fucking time.   Oh, yeah. Oh, no. You've you've got to be correct   or you will get edumacated.  

[02:18:56] Bryan Goodwin:

It's it's get excoriated.   Got We don't have no up and down lines. We've got latitudes   and the longitudes.  

[02:19:04] Rich Chelson:

And then, and then they go into the history of it, the theory of it and why we have it. Oh, yeah.  

[02:19:13] Bryan Goodwin:

And then you really make their head go into meltdown by going, I really don't care.  

[02:19:19] Rich Chelson:

Oh my God. Oh, yeah.   Yeah, exactly.   You should you should care. You're a ham radio operator.   Does it matter who I fucking talk to on what longitudinal   actually, some of the contests or some of the awards I can get,   because we have CQ zones, which which which goes by,   some of the   longitudinal lines.   Right. Because the zones are set up differently. And if you don't know the zones,   you can't figure out, you know, if you have that   CQ zone yet.   So, yeah, sometimes it it does come into play if if if you're going after an award.   I don't go after awards, really.  

You know?   I just I don't care.   I go after   different   towns and countries and counties and shit like that.   Not for awards just because I can say that, you know,   hey.   I freaking talked to this new country.   That's all I care about.  

[02:20:30] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Yeah.  

[02:20:32] Rich Chelson:

Or like a new county. Well, there's   how many counties are in the US?  

[02:20:40] Bryan Goodwin:

More than 77 because that's all there is in in Oklahoma.  

[02:20:44] Rich Chelson:

How many?  

[02:20:46] Bryan Goodwin:

77 counties in Oklahoma.  

[02:20:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But how many are in the United States?  

[02:20:53] Bryan Goodwin:

I I have no clue. 77.  

[02:20:57] Rich Chelson:

What'd you say, Brian?  

[02:20:59] Bryan Goodwin:

I said more than 77.   That's all I that's closest I can get to guessing.  

[02:21:04] Rich Chelson:

Okay. And dude has no clue. Actually, Brian,   you were 3,000 shy because there's   3,077 counties in the US.   That's no bullshit.   There's 3,077   counties in the US.  

[02:21:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow. How about that? Yep.  

[02:21:27] Rich Chelson:

And 77 of them. The 77   make up Oklahoma.   The other 3,000 are spread out throughout all the other 49 states.  

[02:21:37] Duuude-Ron :

How many does how many does how many does Texas have?  

[02:21:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh, fuck, dude. I don't know. Like Oh, okay. 150.   I'm not sure.   I don't know.  

[02:21:49] Duuude-Ron :

I thought it might just be on the,   on the site you're looking at. Next week, by the way?   Oh, yes.  

[02:21:58] Rich Chelson:

What's that?  

[02:22:00] Bryan Goodwin:

I said that's gonna be that the these answer these questions are gonna be on the test next week, just so you know.  

[02:22:06] Rich Chelson:

Oh, fuck. I'm out. Texas   has 254   counties,   which is more than any other state in the US.  

[02:22:19] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, you think?  

[02:22:20] Rich Chelson:

That's what it says.  

[02:22:24] Duuude-Ron :

You think?  

[02:22:26] Rich Chelson:

Not with the notes.  

[02:22:29] Duuude-Ron :

I bet you,   Rhode Island has more counties than Alaska.  

[02:22:41] Rich Chelson:

I would think so.   Oh, you know, that's a good question.   You see, dude,   this could be dude's tip of the week.   Alaska has 29 county equivalents,   which are made up of boroughs and census areas.   So  

[02:23:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Because what?   What is it? Like, 70%   or something like that of Alaska is inhabitable?  

[02:23:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Or just yeah. No one no one wants to live there. It's just flat country or nothing.  

[02:23:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, with all the mountain ranges. Yeah.  

[02:23:27] Rich Chelson:

Hey, dude. I Uh-huh.   I'm sorry I have to do this, but you are   incorrect in your previous statement.   Rhode Island has only 5 counties.   Alaska has more counties than Rhode Island.  

[02:23:44] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Boom. Badoom.  

[02:23:46] Bryan Goodwin:

That's crazy.  

[02:23:49] Duuude-Ron :

Because I mean, I was just I was just throwing that out there to throw it out there.  

[02:23:54] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Well well, no. You see that's the thing. I was thinking like you that that, you know, Rhode Island had   had more counties than Alaska.  

[02:24:03] Duuude-Ron :

Right? But even though it's a small state.  

[02:24:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But yeah. No. But yeah. Rhode Island. They're like, no. We have 5, dude. Bristol, Kent, Newport, Providence,   and Washington.   That's it.   They're like, fuck that. We ain't counting any higher. We ain't taking our shoes off in this cold weather to count anymore.  

[02:24:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Because you had to take it you had to take 1 mitten off.   Yep. 5, we're good. Put the mitten back on. Right. Right? Because they probably  

[02:24:38] Rich Chelson:

counted these fucking counties when it was   already fucking below and 8 feet of snow on the ground. So, yeah, they're like, no. We're good.   And we Yeah.  

[02:24:48] Duuude-Ron :

We ain't exposed to Yeah. 30 below, 12 inches in in the   mid 1700.  

[02:24:56] Rich Chelson:

Right?   That is crazy.   Oh, wow.   It says Rhode Island's counties are used for geographic regions   and and judicial districts,   but the state abolished county government   in 1842.   The cities and towns   run the,   run the government.  

[02:25:32] Duuude-Ron :

Hello?  

[02:25:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's that's crazy.   See, dude?   I'm glad you thought of the tip of the week,   and I'm glad that is   your thing.  

[02:25:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Now it's gonna be fun trying to fulfill it,  

[02:25:54] Bryan Goodwin:

but something unleashed. I'll I'll give you it can it could be any type of tip from, from   from, you know, from jeeping to to a product that you like, to, websites that you've come across and you enjoy, to a good show, anything. Anything you find would be a good tip that you think everybody else would enjoy doing.  

[02:26:15] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.   I   I   just don't wanna make it sound like it's a stupid ass tip, you know, kinda like don't eat the yellow snow.  

[02:26:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. You see, that's the thing. You're the only one that thought that was a stupid ass tip. That's actually a very good tip, dude. Because, I mean It it there's someone   there's someone gonna go out there and eat the yellow snow because   they didn't listen to this podcast.  

[02:26:42] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. See? And, you know, here's another good tip.   I'll give you 3 more. Oh, shit. Try try to figure out   what song they're associated to.   Don't or,   don't tug on Superman's cape.   Don't spit into the wind.   And don't,  

[02:27:07] Bryan Goodwin:

what the hell was it? Don't don't mess around with Jim.  

[02:27:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And don't mess around with Jim.   Who sang that song? Well, it's Croce.   Yep.  

[02:27:22] Bryan Goodwin:

That's Jim Croce. A fellow truck driver.  

[02:27:24] Rich Chelson:

What's the name of the song now?  

[02:27:30] Bryan Goodwin:

What's the name of the song? Is that what you asked? Yeah. Yeah. Don't mess around with Jim.  

[02:27:36] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[02:27:38] Duuude-Ron :

Good song.  

[02:27:40] Rich Chelson:

It's like yeah. Go. Yeah. It is a great song.  

[02:27:44] Duuude-Ron :

But I think I think my favorite of his song is time in a bottle.  

[02:27:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.  

[02:27:51] Rich Chelson:

That's a good song.  

[02:27:53] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Love that song.  

[02:27:57] Rich Chelson:

I like Bad Bad Leroy Brown.  

[02:28:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:28:05] Rich Chelson:

I like that song too.   I don't know. I just  

[02:28:14] Duuude-Ron :

I don't Oh, yeah. There are several songs of Jim Croce that I love,   but my most favorite is Time in a Bottle,   I would say.  

[02:28:24] Rich Chelson:

Well, why is that?   Iron minds would like to know.  

[02:28:31] Duuude-Ron :

Because the story   about   time   is is such a   the way he sings,   that story about time   is just   incredible.  

[02:28:49] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. No. That's cool.   I don't know the words. So  

[02:28:58] Duuude-Ron :

I would sing them to you, but I don't know how to sing. So and I'm sure the hell I'm not going to embarrass myself on this platform.   I'm not, dude.  

[02:29:09] Rich Chelson:

I do it every week.  

[02:29:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But,   no, that would just   no. Thank you.   I don't even sing the water. I don't even I don't even sing in the shower   because the tiles   will jump off and run away.   So I don't even sing in the shower.  

[02:29:35] Rich Chelson:

Oh, you're funny.   You're funny.  

[02:29:41] Duuude-Ron :

Now there is one song   that I will actually sing,   but I'm not very good at it.  

[02:29:49] Rich Chelson:

What is it?  

[02:29:51] Duuude-Ron :

Silent night.  

[02:29:55] Rich Chelson:

Let me learn that on the piano, and and   I'll play the piano and back you up.  

[02:30:03] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Yep. That's the only song that I will,   you know, physically sing.   Now I'll   do pretty I'll do a real good,   a voice over of, you know, like, time in a bottle and all that, but you're not gonna hear any words come out of me, but my mouth might move.  

[02:30:31] Rich Chelson:

Come on, dude.   Don't be scared. Just do it.   Be   be bold, man.  

[02:30:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I haven't   haven't tried quite figured that out in my life,   how to be bold   like that.  

[02:30:53] Rich Chelson:

Just gotta go for it, man.   Just gotta throw caution to the wind, say, fuck it all, and just do it.   Seriously.   That's that's what you have to do.  

[02:31:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. I would love to have   the confidence like Robin Williams had,   you know, on his stand up and   that kind of stuff.  

[02:31:18] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:31:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You've got it, dude. You've got the confidence.  

[02:31:22] Bryan Goodwin:

You just have it buried. You just don't have the experience.  

[02:31:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And I've always been quite a introvert.   So  

[02:31:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But You can stop that easily.   Mhmm.  

[02:31:44] Duuude-Ron :

Just How's that?   Fucks.  

[02:31:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Go to, go to start doing stand up comedy.  

[02:31:57] Rich Chelson:

Or or improv.   Do improv.  

[02:32:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Or improv. I mean, anything that takes you to forces you to have to stand up in front of a group of people   and do something.   In in fact The first thirty times you do it, you're gonna shit your britches.   And the rest of the time, you're still gonna shit your britches. You're just gonna do it and   and have no problem doing it. Mhmm. He was I think it was, they said Sinatra   or no, Fred Astaire, I think.   Anyhow, someone along those lines who's supposed you know, who's who's performed in front of millions of people,   still running the bathroom,   Ralph Ralph up all that he had that day before he went out and part   and, performed.  



[02:32:49] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, so he wouldn't do it while he was performing?  

[02:32:52] Bryan Goodwin:

No. He he was that he was that nervous.  

[02:32:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:32:58] Bryan Goodwin:

So, yeah, he would, he'd just be so nervous and get himself worked up where he'd have to run to the bathroom   and kinda start calling the Irishman.  

[02:33:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Dude, seriously, that's just   that's just what you need to do. In fact in fact, you know, look around temple there,   temple built in area. I mean, I would imagine,   you know, temple has   has a,   drumming class or something   and find an improv classes close by.   And because everyone there   I mean, yeah, you'll have some people that are used to theater,   but   there'll be a lot of people there that are scared just like you.   Yeah. I mean, even more so probably.   And   improv is a great way. I mean, one, you could,   you know, make a lot of shit funny.   Uh-huh.  

But seriously,   take an improv class and just learn how to improv,   and you'll do it right in front of that group and get to know these people when   pretty soon,   you'll be popping shit off like you've been doing it for your whole life.  

[02:34:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well, probably.  

[02:34:17] Rich Chelson:

I mean, seriously, dude. That's the thing. Yeah. It's I mean, I mean, some of the shit I've stepped out and done, I've been scared shitless,   but I fucking do it anyway.  

[02:34:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:34:29] Rich Chelson:

I mean,   it's just and and either I win or I I lose.   And if I fail, well, I'm gonna try it again. I just might   rethink things   and then go for it. You know?  

[02:34:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I understand. I I completely understand that.  

[02:34:50] Rich Chelson:

But that's all in your head, man.   And you can change   whatever is in your mind if you want to.   You just have to stop worrying about what everybody else fucking thinks because no one thinks about you except for me and Brian.  

[02:35:17] Duuude-Ron :

Well and that is definitely   appreciated.  

[02:35:20] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's I'm glad.   But no. Seriously. I mean and and if you failed at something,   we'd still love you.   You'd still be the dude.   You'd still be the guest.   We just try and help you get to your win.  

[02:35:36] Bryan Goodwin:

So Absolutely.   And then once you had your win, then we'd start giving you all the shit about all the times you failed.  

[02:35:43] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:35:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. We we would wait until after you won at least once. At least once. Twice.  

[02:35:50] Rich Chelson:

Then we'd laugh about how you failed, and then we'd help you   win something else.   Say that.   That's all you gotta do.   Anytime you're ready,   we can do it.   Either dude's thinking right now or he he's like, fuck y'all.  

[02:36:31] Duuude-Ron :

No. I kinda lost the lost the thought.   Bring me back into the thought, will you?  

[02:36:40] Rich Chelson:

That's why I love you, dude.  

[02:36:42] Duuude-Ron :

I know.  

[02:36:45] Rich Chelson:

We're saying   you don't need to be scared to do anything because nobody thinks about you except me and Brian.   Yep. And we don't care if you win or lose   because we're gonna help you either way.   We're gonna do it when you win. And if you lose, we're gonna help you win and then laugh about it, your losses,   and then help you win again.   So you just need to get out there and   say fuck it and just go do it.   And if someone says something to you, what did you used to tell people in the military?   Fuck you.   Am I wrong? Am I wrong, dude?   No.  

Okay then.   What happened?   What happened?  

[02:37:41] Duuude-Ron :

You Nothing.  

[02:37:42] Rich Chelson:

You you had no problem telling   motherfuckers in the military to fuck you.   You did the same thing out here in the world.   The only thing is is they'll walk away and you'll never see them again.   Whereas in the military, you had to see them   the next morning.   And then you still tell them fuck you again.   See?   It dude, it it's not you see? It's not changed.   The the only thing that's changed is out here in the world, if you tell someone that,   they'll just leave.   They'll just go away. Yeah. You know? Me and Brian, not so much. You could tell us that, and we're still gonna be in your face. We don't care. But, you know,  

[02:38:33] Duuude-Ron :

but You know? And   Go ahead. And seeing how our vehicles are governed,   you know,   sometimes it   it agitates me that I have   a growing line   of cars behind my truck because I can do   only 65   and the speed limit is 75.   And getting all these people upset   because I can't go any faster,   you know, and they'll blow by me. And I'm like,   you know, it's almost to the point it's like, well,   sorry, but I can't help you because   I got the pedal to the metal and the thing to the floor,   and it ain't going any faster than 65.  

[02:39:21] Rich Chelson:

Dude,   who cares what they think?  

[02:39:26] Duuude-Ron :

That, you know, that's what I that that is what I've come to. Right. Well, listen.  

[02:39:32] Rich Chelson:

If those dumbasses want to ride 65 miles an hour behind you,   that's their dumbass fault. That's not your fault because they chose   to ride behind you. You did not tell those cars, you will stay right here and you will not move. You did not tell them that. Right?  

[02:39:52] Duuude-Ron :

Okay, though. Yeah. He was They can pass you if they want. Yeah. They can pass you if they want. That's right. That was their choice to stay there. So  

[02:40:02] Rich Chelson:

what whatever speed you go, they go.   You know?   And it's it's their choice.  

[02:40:10] Duuude-Ron :

Except for this dumb   2 dumb motherfuckers   that I got behind today.   2 trucks.   One truck would not go over 55   miles an hour in a 75.   The other one that I blared the holler on,   this dude was doing 43   in a 75 mile an hour zone on a 2 lane road.  

[02:40:40] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[02:40:41] Duuude-Ron :

It's like   I just wanted so much to get my truck out there and just give him a love tap.   Let's move along.   Let's move it the fuck along, motherfucker.  

[02:40:57] Rich Chelson:

But see, that's the thing.   That's the thing. Blowing your horn at them.   What did that do to them?   Did it change his   his,   speed?  

[02:41:10] Duuude-Ron :

Unfortunately,   it did not. See.  

[02:41:13] Rich Chelson:

I I was hoping  

[02:41:14] Duuude-Ron :

that it would.   You know? Or I was really hoping that it would. Right. Right.   But if you're gonna be that   kind of a jackass on the fucking road,   then you really should not be on the road. If you're gonna purposely do half the   speed half the speed limit,  

[02:41:38] Rich Chelson:

now time for you to get the fuck off the road. Well, see, we you see what what was funny when I stopped driving a truck. Right?   When I totally gave up my CDL  

[02:41:49] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[02:41:50] Rich Chelson:

I went traveling.   You would have hated me   if if,   you knew me back then because I would get in the left lane, and I would do 55 miles an hour, and I wouldn't move because I didn't give a fuck. I was so pissed from 25 years of having to ride behind slow motherfuckers like that.   I did it to everybody else.   I did it too. I did it for about 6 fucking months.   Anytime, left lane, 55 mile an hour, fuck you motherfuckers,   ask me. And they would.   They'd blow their horns and everything, and I'd I'd just wave at   them. Blow them a kiss as they went by. I I didn't move.   I'm like, you motherfuckers pissed me off for 25 years.  

It's my turn now, bitches.   I, I wasn't asked, dude.   I got my revenge. I mean, it didn't hurt nobody but me. I mean, I didn't get no ticket or nothing, but, you know,   it made me feel better.   And then after I made my comments, I was like, okay. Go ahead. And you know how a lot of states  

[02:43:06] Duuude-Ron :

will ticket you for camping in the left lane?  

[02:43:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They will now.  

[02:43:14] Duuude-Ron :

Guess who I saw camping in the left lane?  

[02:43:19] Bryan Goodwin:

It wasn't me. Uh-uh. You can't prove it was me.  

[02:43:23] Rich Chelson:

You have no video proof, dude.   No. Go ahead.  

[02:43:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, can't touch my phone in the truck.   Camping   camping in the left lane,   going 10 miles an hour under a speed limit.   A DPS officer.  

[02:43:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Dude. Well, yeah. Getting the people who are rooting, who are pissed off and angry enough, they they try something stupid.  

[02:43:52] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm. And I'll tell you what. If well, if a DPS officer wants to travel   65 and the 75,  

[02:44:01] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm gonna blow by him doing 75 miles an hour. Oh, no. He didn't buy it didn't bother him that you blow by past him doing the speed limit.   But those those grumpy sons of bitches that, are doing 95, you know, he he's looking for them. Whipping in and out of traffic.   Yep. Yeah.  

[02:44:20] Rich Chelson:

But, see, here's the thing. Okay?   Speed limits. Okay. Let's take the speed limit in Texas at 75.   Right?  

[02:44:29] Duuude-Ron :

Now Right.  

[02:44:31] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   The left lane is for passing only. Correct?  

[02:44:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:44:39] Rich Chelson:

Okay then.   If everybody is doing 75 fucking miles an hour, why is anybody in the left fucking lane?   Because that's supposed to speed limit.   So therefore,   states shouldn't be able to,   dictate which lane you have to ride in.   75 or 75.   If someone's breaking the law, then, yes,   they use the left lane. It is okay to speed to get around somebody,   but as long as they come back in the in the right lane and slow down,   back to the speed limit.   Okay. That's allowed, but people use the left lane like the Autobahn   and do a 105.   The cops need   you know, the freaking cops need to be out to get them.  

See, I've I've always had a problem with that with states saying,   you know,   you know, slower traffic in in the right lane. Okay.   That's fine. Slower traffic means people are going less than the posted speed limit. So I'm gonna ride in the left lane doing the speed limit.   And then I got motherfuckers   trying to run down my ass   because I'm only doing the speed limit, the postage speed limit,   and they're all pissed off because I'm not doing a 105.   People's minds are fucked up, man.   Yeah. I know.   They're just fucked up.  

[02:46:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   That is true.  

[02:46:15] Rich Chelson:

And then, of course, the cops.   Well and see, that's the thing with the cop doing   65 in the left lane on a 75 mile an hour speed zone. Who's gonna stop him and give him a ticket? Are you?   You know? Probably not.   Right.   So, I mean,   you know, it's it's, you know, it's like a catch 22.   Damned if you do and damned if you don't.  

[02:46:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:46:48] Rich Chelson:

You know, it took me, like, 20 some odd years to figure out that thing.  

[02:46:54] Duuude-Ron :

I believe it.  

[02:46:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It did.   In my younger years.   I I I never understood that saying for the longest time.   And then one day, it clicked. I don't know if I heard the definition or what or it just freaking clicked.   I'm like, oh, that's what it means. Doesn't matter what you do. You're damned.  

[02:47:16] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   I think  

[02:47:19] Rich Chelson:

I think I was in the military when I figured that. No.   No. I screwed in the military.   I was voluntold for everything. So,   you know, whether I did it or not, I was voluntold.   I think I was driving a truck.   I don't fuck. I can't remember. That was too long ago.   So   yeah. I'm yeah. I'm guys, I'm   I'm lost.  

[02:47:54] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it's about that time of the night.  

[02:47:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say we're getting back we're getting up to,   to about 10 minutes till. So   so alright. I guess we'll go ahead and we'll get it all wrapped to start wrapping it up and start getting,   the parting shots,   sent on their on their way, and   I can go hit the hay. So alright. So, guys, thanks again so much for y'all listening as this is,   as we wrap up 2 grumpy vets and a dude,   and we are   glad that you've come by. And   our our we were talking earlier before Rich came on, you know, a little bit about what our what our listeners are size is. And you if you heard it, you're like, wow. Okay. That's really small. Well, it might be real small.   It could be viewed as that. I agree. But at the same time, it is also   the size of a of a classroom.  

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So, guys, with that, again, one more time, thank y'all very much for, listening. And, Rich, what do you have to say for the night?  

[02:55:39] Rich Chelson:

No. Not much. Actually,   Yeah.   Shit. Totally.  

[02:55:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes. Sorry, man. Didn't mean to step on the on the, the trigger for the toilet.  

[02:55:54] Rich Chelson:

Right?   My brain that thought right down the drain. It it just it did.   No. That,   there was something you had said I was gonna say that that I agreed with, but, yeah, I'd, yeah, I totally spaced that one out. But, no, I just wanna say   thanks to everyone listening   that that still listens and,   you know   yeah. Even though we don't have   millions of people or thousands of people listening to us, you know,   We've got a few people listening to us and, you know, that's why I keep coming back because I'm just shocked that someone's even listening to us.   I mean, honestly, it's, you know, but, you know, and and,   you know, if you wanna reach out to us, don't be afraid.  

Send us an email, rich@[email protected]@[email protected].   And, you know, give us your thoughts   or maybe as, Brian was saying, ideas for   for show topics or whatnot or, you know, maybe different segments.   You know, we're   we're always looking for ways to,   add to or whatever to our show. And believe me, if if you try and wait for us 3 to figure it out, like Brian said, you know,   what? Yeah. 3 guys, 1 brain or, you know, 3 brains, 1 tie, you know, it's yeah. But same thing, you know. It's yeah.   Sometimes we don't think that deep. Okay. And sometimes we need help and, yeah, we would like to hear from you. And we'll give you the credit too. We'll   We won't take the credit. We'll be like, hey. This person told us do it.  

You know? So,   you know, but, yeah, just,   you know, reach out because this is   your show as well as it is our show.   Okay? I mean, we're here just so everyone could have a good time,   laugh and joke, cry, groan because, I mean, we do that ourselves   as some of the stuff we say. You know? So, you know, join in on the fun,   and we'd love to get to know you. So, anyway, thanks for listening.   Hope y'all have a great week, and,   we'll be back again next week. So, dude,   what you got, man?  

[02:58:19] Duuude-Ron :

I think you guys are pretty well covered it for tonight. I just have, to say,   thank you for everyone that's listening and   pretty well say good night.  

[02:58:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright, guys. So, again,   Rich, did appreciate y'all coming on. Thanks for, for being a part of, of my life. Thanks for being,   being able to, to come on here and share a little bit about or what were happening in our world and our our thoughts, whether they, they amount to a,   to a dollar or a dime is, is is up to everyone else. So,   guys, thanks again for y'all for everybody showing up. Y'all have a great rest of the week. We'll see y'all, next Thursday night. Till then.   Bye.  

[02:59:09] Rich Chelson:

Later.  

[02:59:11] Duuude-Ron :

Good night, and peace out.  

[02:59:14] Rich Chelson:

See y'all, guys. See you guys. Alright.   Bye. Bye.