Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this episode of Two Grumpy Vets, Bryan, Rich, and "The Duuude" gather for their weekly chat, sharing their unique blend of humor, social commentary, and personal anecdotes. The conversation kicks off with technical difficulties and a humorous exchange about coffee habits, leading to a discussion about health issues and the side effects of medication. The trio also delves into the challenges of quitting smoking, the cost of beverages on the road, and the peculiarities of military coffee. As they navigate through various topics, the hosts reflect on the importance of intentional living and supporting each other through life's ups and downs.

The episode takes a turn towards more serious topics as the hosts discuss the concept of prepping and the potential for a new venture in documenting the journey of learning about survival and preparedness. They explore the idea of creating a community for men to share experiences and support each other, while also considering the challenges of balancing multiple projects. The conversation is peppered with humorous anecdotes, personal insights, and the occasional technical glitch, all wrapped up in the camaraderie that defines Two Grumpy Vets.
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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan,   Rich, and the Duuude.  

[00:00:35] Duuude-Ron :

Rich, can you hear me?  

[00:00:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I can hear you, dude.  

[00:00:41] Duuude-Ron :

K.  

[00:00:42] Rich Chelson:

I had the microphone muted on my end. I forgot.  

[00:00:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:00:47] Rich Chelson:

Noah, Noah Brian texted me and said that he'd be on   in a few minutes.   Damn slacker.   What the hell?  

[00:00:57] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Can't get to a can't get to a damn fucking truck stop in time to find a decent place and, you know, get pulled in and,   gee, man, damn   slackers.  

[00:01:09] Rich Chelson:

Well, maybe it's like last week when,   when he, hung up on us and   his aunt.  

[00:01:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And just and just blew everything out of the damn water. Yeah. It's like one it's like, what the fuck just happened here?   You know? Every everybody was off the air. It's like, okay. Damn. This is   odd.   Right.   But that's tough. Alright. You feeling you feeling better tonight?  

[00:01:42] Rich Chelson:

Little better.  

[00:01:44] Duuude-Ron :

Little better?  

[00:01:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I, dude, I was god. I was tore the fuck up last night.  

[00:01:50] Duuude-Ron :

Why?  

[00:01:52] Rich Chelson:

My jaw was hurting. My head was hurting.   Well, of course, I had to pee also.   And I mean I mean, no. Just just sitting there, my jaw just fucking just   just hit   me. Just like, roar. And then   my head, and I'm like, yeah. I can't fucking do this no more.  

[00:02:14] Duuude-Ron :

With your jaw, is it the joint   itself?  

[00:02:19] Rich Chelson:

No. It's it's   I think it   caused something   in the gum,   because, one of my teeth in the back,   I can't press down on it because it hurts really, really bad.   And, one of the side effects   of this steroid cream,   it says it can cause blisters in the mouth. Now I don't feel a blister   per se,   but it could be on the inside of the gum.   It's it's seized up quite a bit today,   you know, from, what it was   yesterday and before.  

[00:03:05] Duuude-Ron :

Just just a pain of that one tooth area or your   your, joint?  

[00:03:13] Rich Chelson:

Well, it hurts it it hurts in the bone,   in the joint,   just just on the backside   of my right jaw, you know, lower jaw.  

[00:03:25] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:03:26] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. Trust me. I don't know. And and I did sign and I did send that secure message   to,   my doc, and,   I didn't ask if I could stop. I told her I was gonna stop.  

[00:03:42] Duuude-Ron :

I listened to her.   And that was the cream for your the psoriasis. Right?  

[00:03:48] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.   Okay. Yeah. I've got two creams,   and, I   I just stopped both of them. Fuck them.   I'm not   I'm not picking and choosing here.   But, yeah. No. And, I listed out   six side effects   that I did not have prior to using this cream.   And, and I just told her. I mean, I didn't hear back from her, and I I knew I wouldn't because I told her what I was gonna do.   Right. Up, baby. I don't care. But, yeah, I'm done. You know?   You know, if the shit makes me hurt worse   than than what it's trying to help, yeah, kiss my ass. I ain't doing it.  

[00:04:35] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Oh, I I completely agree with you.  

[00:04:39] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I would I would I would rather deal with the itching of the nads.   Okay?   Seriously, I would rather itch   than feel like this.  

[00:04:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:04:55] Rich Chelson:

So   so, yeah, I am I am feeling a little better today. Been up since about five.   Oh, yeah?   Mhmm.   Not by choice.   Yeah.   I ain't gonna lie. It's not by choice.  

[00:05:12] Duuude-Ron :

So what? You've had about, what, four, five, six pots of coffee today?  

[00:05:18] Rich Chelson:

No. I only had,   I didn't make a half. No. I hadn't.   No. I just had one.  

[00:05:27] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:05:29] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I just,   yeah, I just had one. I just,  

[00:05:37] Duuude-Ron :

you you do realize that one is just not enough for anybody. Right?   Well, you know You got you gotta at least start a second one,   if not a third one.  

[00:05:51] Rich Chelson:

You know,   the thing is, though, is that   I don't know, man. Things have things have kinda,   have been changing.   Yeah. It's not and it's not on purpose. It's I mean, it's nothing I'm doing.  

[00:06:09] Duuude-Ron :

It's just  

[00:06:11] Rich Chelson:

you know?   I don't know. It's just,   I don't get to hankering for it.  

[00:06:20] Bryan Goodwin:

And  

[00:06:21] Duuude-Ron :

You know? And well, yeah. In recent within the last couple of days,   you know,   because I'll I'll drink a yeah. Well, you've seen my mug.   I'll drink one of those in the morning,   and then I   will fill that cup up.   And then I put hot water in my thermos   and put the instant in a, you know, small Tupperware container with all the   fixings   and have that usually when I get to whatever destination   I'm going to   just to have it for the return trip.  

[00:07:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:07:01] Duuude-Ron :

And today is, like, on that return trip, it's   like, man, this   yuck.   I'm like Really? Wow.   I don't know if I didn't put enough   of something in it, but it's like,   wow. This is just not   yuck.   Now I   I drank it.   Trust me. I don't know.  

[00:07:29] Rich Chelson:

You ain't gonna throw it out. Hell hell no.  

[00:07:32] Duuude-Ron :

Hell no. I ain't gonna throw it out.   Hell, now   if we ever if I ever had to go back to   old MRE coffee  

[00:07:44] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm. I'd throw that shit out   most   definitely.   Well, yeah. Because   that should come back and bite you if you didn't.  

[00:07:59] Duuude-Ron :

Or, you know, come up and just slap you in the side of the face.  

[00:08:02] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:08:03] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. No. That was that was some strong   shit   before they actually started putting Folgers   instant   inside the MREs.   But that initial MRE coffee,  

[00:08:19] Rich Chelson:

yeah, that was just   that was harsh.   Yeah. It was, dude. And and and   there was nothing you could do to cut it. Nothing.   I don't care how much sugar, how much salt.   I don't care how much hot chocolate   you put in there. It would not cut it.  

[00:08:40] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Uncuttable.   Yeah. Dale, and   that's what I was fixing to say. Yes. The hot chocolate   hot chocolate the the pack of hot chocolate that came in   would,   you know,   bring it down a little bit,   but it still overpowered the hot chocolate and, you know, the sugar.  

[00:09:06] Rich Chelson:

Right. I mean I mean, yeah.   Yeah. The hot chocolate would would would, you know, kinda   bring it down like you said, but, yeah, not enough.   It's not   I mean, yeah, I I don't know, dude. We tried every every which way we could.  

[00:09:27] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I know. And that that shit'll you know you know how you eat something, you'll get hair growing in places?   With that coffee, you fucking grow hair on the bottom of your feet.  

[00:09:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah.   That's true.   That is true.   Oh, yeah. It's it's yeah. That's   that's some rough shit. I ain't gonna lie to you. That is some rough shit.  

[00:09:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. Very   stout.   Yeah. That's it. Stout.  

[00:09:59] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, that's,   yeah.   But,   but, yeah, no. I don't know anymore. I just, you know,   now now when I was up in Kentucky,   you know, I sipped on well, there was three of us drinking coffee, so there was a pot going all the time. I mean,   you know, I Right. You know, I still had five or six cups, which I normally do. Sometimes I have one or two in the evening, but other than that, not really. You know?   I just   I don't know. I I mean,   you know, I figure   three pots for,   oh, five what?   Thirty plus years?   You know?   Yeah. I just   my body just is like, you know what? I just want and and even now when I call the VA and talk with the nurses,   you know,   you know, they're   like, how many cups of coffee you drink today?  

I said, honey, I drink a pot.   And she's like, oh, no.   I have one, maybe two cups.   No, honey. You don't get it.   I have a pot.  

[00:11:13] Duuude-Ron :

Well and, again, it all decides   depends on the size of the cup   as well.   I remember a long time, I think, I sent you guys the picture of my big coffee cup.   That cup   will hold a pot and a half   of coffee   in that cup.  

[00:11:36] Rich Chelson:

That's crazy, dude.  

[00:11:41] Duuude-Ron :

I brought then here you know, because I don't use it. It it's just   a kitchen   ornament.   Right?   But we were we were working on a Saturday. I think I must've   been there for about,   oh,   six years or something.   I don't I don't remember.   But it was a Saturday, and I brought   that.   But I what I did is I put,   I have a big thermos   where I put which also holds about a pot and a half coffee.   So I brought the coffee into the thermos,   but we were fixing to have our morning briefing. And this was a Saturday, so it was a special day.   So they were I can't remember what we did, but it there was a specific reason of why we're there.  

So as they're as they're having   the briefing,   I'm drinking on this fucking huge cup of coffee, and everybody is looking me going,   what   the fuck   is that?   I'm like, it's a fucking cup of coffee.   And they there's a couple of them. They were just fucking rolling. It's like, damn. How much is in there? About a pot and a half.   One guy just fucking lost one guy just fucking lost it.   He was like, god   damn.   I'm like, yep. And I'm a enjoy every drop  

[00:13:23] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:13:24] Duuude-Ron :

And do my work while I'm drinking my coffee.   Why? Because   I'm   talented like that.  

[00:13:33] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   Yeah. No. It it just   yeah. When I drove, I was I was three, four pots a day   Yeah. Every day. In and out. I mean, I drank it from the time I got up till the time I went to bed and even woke up.   If I woke up in the middle of the night, I smoked a cigarette and drank coffee.   Yeah. I don't care if it was cold or not.  

[00:13:58] Duuude-Ron :

And now and now   cold coffee is just the end thing.   Like, we ain't been doing this shit for fucking decades now.  

[00:14:08] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Right. You know?  

[00:14:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I've been doing that before it was fucking,   you know,   hip to drink iced coffee.   Like, they like they they think they actually invented something.  

[00:14:23] Rich Chelson:

No. You know? You know? They   they need to think that so they're so they're,   they feel like   they're they've done something in life. They're important.  

[00:14:36] Duuude-Ron :

They're important.  

[00:14:38] Rich Chelson:

Now now now I don't put   you know, I don't fill my cup with ice cubes and then pour   coffee well, sugared water over it   because I don't put sugar and shit in my coffee. You know, I might put one or two ice cubes just to cube,   cool it off just a hair.  

[00:14:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I I get you some of the fucking truck stop coffee. That shit is, like, just   one degree under boiling.  

[00:15:06] Rich Chelson:

Yo. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's yeah. And it's like, oh my god.   You know, I've I bought it to drink right then, not thirty minutes later. You'll piss me off if I gotta wait thirty minutes.   Yeah. Well when I'm paying $354   for a fucking cup of coffee.  

[00:15:23] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   damn. That's well.   I just   fucking heat my own water and make my own coffee.  

[00:15:31] Rich Chelson:

I don't blame you. And if I Oh, yeah. Fucking coffee is expensive in in truck stops and on the road anymore. Restaurants, oh my god. It's like $2.59,   $3   for coffee.   Coffee, tea, any drink.   Coffee, tea, soda, it doesn't matter.   Coffee is one of the cheapest   beverages   you can make,   and they'll still charge the same as, tea and   and pop.  

[00:15:59] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So they can they can make a   a pot, and it costs them about   maybe   50¢   to produce it, and they're gonna charge $4.  

[00:16:10] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. Per, yeah, per cup.   Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, you get free refills, but how many people drink more than one cup   besides the menu?  

[00:16:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:16:27] Duuude-Ron :

Not a lot. We are we are the select   few   that enjoy that enjoy our coffee.   Right. And then and my boss was like, in the summertime, I'm drinking coffee all the time.   And I'll drink more coffee in the summer just to have, you know, the liquid hydration. He's like,   man, you need to fucking start drinking some water. I'm like, what the fuck you think is in here?   Goddamn water.   Little bit of fucking instant coffee grounds,   but it's water.   It may not be cold,   but it's fucking water all the same.   And and then and he'll say that to me every summer, and I'll say the same thing to him every summer. And he does it once.   And then I'll give him that same statement, and then he'll just shake his head,   you know, roll his eyes, and just   walk away.  



[00:17:28] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:17:29] Duuude-Ron :

And just   like, man,   Jesus,   dude.   So  

[00:17:37] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, if if you try if you try and make that argument   at the doctor's office,   I can I can pretty much guarantee you that's not gonna fly?   I've tried.   I've tried to make that argument at the doctor's office.   Yeah. They don't Well They don't see it the way we see it.  

[00:18:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Here and here's the thing.   You know, both of the my VA doctor and my primary care civilian doctor,   you know, the the VA doctor asked me every damn time and the the mental health, the   the the couple others that I see,   you know, they ask me every time they see me, they ask me,   are you still smoking? I'm like, yep.   Are you are   you gonna quit? Do you wanna quit? I'm like, you've asked me that question every single time   I come in here,   and   the answer is no.   And   I'll let you know   when I'm ready to quit.   But today   is not that day,   and tomorrow   is not looking much fucking better.  

Right.   It's like, well, you need you really need to try to quit smoking. I'm like, well, you know what? You really need to fucking try to speak a little bit   clearer when it comes to fucking English. How about that?  

[00:19:05] Rich Chelson:

Right? Oh, yeah. Doctors are are freaking relentless   because they think and even though even though scientists say coffee   is is good for you.   You know?  

[00:19:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Science also said coffee is bad for you.  

[00:19:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well,  

[00:19:24] Bryan Goodwin:

last thing I heard is is good for you. Not not a lot of it, but some of it. Yeah. Like having a cup. It's kinda like wine. They used to say wine is really good for you.   Oh, but you only should have a cup.   Or you maybe just and then there's those who come along. Oh, no. Wine is terrible for you.  

[00:19:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:19:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Like, no.   Everything is okay   in moderation.  

[00:19:52] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.  

[00:19:53] Duuude-Ron :

But, see, I'm not gonna do coffee in moderation. I'm not gonna do cigarettes in moderation.   If the fucking urge hits me, like, it's fixing to hit me, like, here in about ten seconds, I'm gonna get my ass up and   go have a smoke and go sit outside on the patio.  

[00:20:12] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. And I might just  

[00:20:14] Duuude-Ron :

and within about fifteen, twenty minutes, I might just make another fucking one of my big ass cups of coffee.   Why? Because I can.   Right.  

[00:20:24] Rich Chelson:

No. No. See, that's the thing. Brian's right. Every everything in moderation   is fine for you.   You know? But but you say the thing is, though, let me ask you this. What is   what is,   moderation   in regards to cigarettes?   What is it? One a day, one a week, or, you know, half a pack a day, half a pack a week, or you know? Why are you considering that Indian packed it today.  

[00:20:55] Bryan Goodwin:

The American Indians were able to smoke smoke tobacco   and had no problem with it. Right.   Well, that was wrong. Because it was a ceremonial   item.   They didn't just go off and roll up a big ass cigar. You know? They they stuffed it into their piece pipe and   Well yeah. Now granted, I am doing a lot of generalization, so the listeners are gonna go, oh my god. He's he's talking.   I wasn't ever there during the Indian times. Neither were you. We're, you know, we're just going off of what we have a good idea about.  

[00:21:32] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:21:35] Duuude-Ron :

But yeah. And they and back then, they sure the hell didn't have all the fucking   damn   pesticides   and, you know, all that other   yeah. That's in tobacco today.   Yeah. So, yeah, it did it did not   hard well, and it you know, like I said, they weren't freaking   rolling up   the cigars and fucking,   you know, smoking several of those a day.  

[00:22:03] Rich Chelson:

Well, see, that's the thing. Smoking cigars are actually healthy because that's nothing but tobacco.  

[00:22:11] Duuude-Ron :

Well, well  

[00:22:12] Rich Chelson:

Well, except for the ones you smoke, dude.   I'm talking a big fat stogies.   That's  

[00:22:19] Bryan Goodwin:

that's all tobacco. And I spoke to Cubano.  

[00:22:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But did they use any pesticides to get rid of the pests on the leaves   initially   when it was growing?  

[00:22:31] Rich Chelson:

Well, if it came from South America,   I would say probably not, but I could be wrong.  

[00:22:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're right. If you're if it's coming from South America,   more than likely not.   If it's coming from America,   everything fucking has pesticides in it. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:22:50] Rich Chelson:

I I   it's true. I mean, I mean, it's in the groundwater.   You know?   You know, you got runoff from farmer's fields and,  

[00:23:00] Bryan Goodwin:

all the stuff. You also have antidepressants   and antibiotics   in in the groundwater too.  

[00:23:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:23:07] Bryan Goodwin:

So, I mean, it it is what it is what it is.  

[00:23:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. No. That is true.  

[00:23:13] Duuude-Ron :

Well, tell me where that groundwater is at so I can go fucking get my goddamn five gallon buckets.   Just about anywhere.   Oh, okay. Oh, I'm sure. And then they just cover it up with a shitload of fucking   no way. Do the one set that they use to to fucking clean the water.  

[00:23:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh,   shit. No idea.  

[00:23:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is it has a real strong taste when they,   try to   yeah. There you go. Chlorine.   Okay.   So, you know, you you get all the the additives of what you just said,   antidepressants   and all that, and then they just fucking cover up with chlorine.   So hey.   We have,   what the hell is the name of that town?   It's about five minutes south from me   on the interstate.   Starts with an s.   But, anyway, there's a   no. No.   Salado.  

[00:24:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Salado. Yeah. Oh, good. God. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I was, like, going.   Well, I was, like, trying to pull up every I said, I was kinda like I was like Seguin, Saginaw. I was like, no. That's Dallas.  

[00:24:42] Duuude-Ron :

So they have a   a fresh or spring   well,   like, right off the main where that creek is that,   that's on the south side of town.   Uh-huh. There there's a spring that,   I mean, it feeds some damn cold water.   Oh, yeah. And it's always and it's always gushing.   So it's like, you know, I see people over there all the time bringing their fucking water jugs   and filling them up in that in that area.  

[00:25:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, you go to Mineral Wells, and you get some of that crazy water there. That's   great taste in water. It's got a real soft, feel to it. Got a minerally taste to it, which, I mean, it's going to. It's called Mineral Wells.   Yeah. But,   reason why they call it crazy water is because it's got it's actually got a,   a good amount   of lithium   in it.   Really? Yeah. It's actually and   the story behind the word the reason why they call it crazy water is because,   there was a woman back in the pioneer days   who heard heard about,   about mineral wells, and she went and spent, like, two years living there.  

So she, she would,   she would drink it. She cooked with it. She   took a bath with it. I mean, did everything with this with this water.   And Uh-huh. She was   she was off her freaking rocker when she started. She just   she was hearing voices and all the other problems that were going on. And so she was like, oh, screw this. I've heard this is supposed to help me, and so she went there out of desperation. And a year or two later, she was   sane and coherent.  

[00:26:37] Duuude-Ron :

Wow. Well Okay.   Wow.  

[00:26:44] Bryan Goodwin:

It's the reason why then they started making the Baker Hotel   and then,   and really used the,   the mineral wells for,   mineral springs for,   for for good. And then   Baker Hotel,   fell out of favor in the, I think,   sixties   and closed down and been full.   Ever since, there's been, there's a group right now trying to get them to reopen.  

[00:27:16] Duuude-Ron :

But   And this is Mineral Fault. We're at Texas? Yeah. Yeah. Northwell, Texas.   What's it by?  

[00:27:26] Bryan Goodwin:

It is south of   it's between,   not whether for Wichita Falls   and,   well, it's ex it's South Of of Jacksboro   and,   and North   Of I 20  

[00:27:47] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:27:48] Bryan Goodwin:

On,   on whatever highway that is. It goes from  

[00:27:53] Duuude-Ron :

The 180.  

[00:27:54] Rich Chelson:

1 it's just West of Fort Worth on 180 and 281.  

[00:27:59] Bryan Goodwin:

2 80 1. Thank you. I was like going the the highway that goes from, goes from Wichita Falls all the way down to Stephenville.   That's the road we take all the time.  

[00:28:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. 281 and 180 cross right in there in, in a  

[00:28:15] Bryan Goodwin:

mineral well. Oh, and that's the biggest barn building in in town, so   it's hard to miss.  

[00:28:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's just West of Weatherford.   So So   Yeah. I did I it's like it's like I knew I knew I knew where that town was at. I just couldn't think of it.  

[00:28:37] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   What's that big one in   that has the fucking OHP part,   the Jeep part in Arkansas?  

[00:28:47] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that's,   Hot Springs.  

[00:28:52] Duuude-Ron :

Hot Springs. That's it. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:28:56] Rich Chelson:

Hot Springs.  

[00:28:59] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And now on Main Street, they have, what was it, like,   eight buildings right next to each other   of Spring Baths.   Mhmm.  

[00:29:10] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I don't know. I've never been to Hot Springs.  

[00:29:12] Duuude-Ron :

Never been there? No. Never been there. We're gonna we're we're gonna have to go up there in wheel sometime.  

[00:29:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. Relax in the hot springs.  

[00:29:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   But, you know, I've I would probably gone downtown   to go and eat, but I've never been in one of the springs. But they were  

[00:29:32] Bryan Goodwin:

early on spring, and they were do do Rich's body   wonders.  

[00:29:36] Rich Chelson:

It probably would.   I gotta say I gotta say, though, today,   my body overall,   my pain level   was   was damn near not existing.  

[00:29:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, and you stopped using the, the medicine that, the doc gave you?  

[00:30:00] Rich Chelson:

I stopped it a couple days ago, but Oh, it finally got out of your system?   Not fully. My jaw is still   fucking with me, but but my wrist hasn't been hurting that bad. And I still well, I'm still dizzy and got a headache, but   it's it's it is tolerable.   You know? I can I can function?   I couldn't function last night, dude.  

[00:30:22] Bryan Goodwin:

It it just yeah. I couldn't function last night. That or we could take you over to, Pagosa Springs there in Colorado.  

[00:30:32] Rich Chelson:

I haven't been there.  

[00:30:34] Bryan Goodwin:

I haven't been there. They've they've got some nice hot springs too. Right. It's always cool cool to go over there and,   because that's Pagosa Springs is where,   our church used to go   to,   to as a hotel was a place to stay. So we when we go to,   go to ski over in,   Wolf Creek.   Okay.   And so you'd get there and be right across the street, and you'd see these  

[00:31:04] Rich Chelson:

just  

[00:31:07] Bryan Goodwin:

barreling,   rolling vapors of   of hot water   boiling off. It would   I mean, it cost a little bit, but, hell, get a bunch of bunch of high schoolers   hanging out in there.   And, you know, we   we we enjoyed the hell out of it.  

[00:31:29] Rich Chelson:

Right.   I bet.  

[00:31:33] Duuude-Ron :

That's like Colorado Springs.   Yeah.   Very much. I was sure. Yeah.   I don't know. Have you ever been to Colorado Springs?  

[00:31:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, I've not been to the 7 Falls   in Colorado Springs? Yeah. Yeah. I love 7 Falls. K. Yeah.  

[00:31:59] Duuude-Ron :

That's one hell of a fucking climb up all those damn stairs out of the damn stairs, isn't it? So damn stuff. Yeah.  

[00:32:06] Rich Chelson:

I know I'm out then.  

[00:32:08] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Yeah. No. You would be out because 7 Falls   is one   waterfall   that has   seven different tiers.  

[00:32:19] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. No. I'm good. With that and  

[00:32:22] Bryan Goodwin:

to walk all the way up close there. In a wheelchair, and we'll just thump you all the way up to the top.   No.  

[00:32:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You'd be on the   top. I I ain't   fucking   that's entirely too much fucking exercise for me anymore.  

[00:32:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I wanna take Now go on. Take the kids to to do a Colorado trip. Spend a week just going to visit them all the sites.   Never got around to it.   Just could never quite get enough money.  

[00:33:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh, I understand.   Why? Because the bill, man, always come back.  

[00:33:19] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[00:33:21] Duuude-Ron :

That motherfucker replenishes too.  

[00:33:25] Bryan Goodwin:

He just does not give up. Yeah. Bill man cometh, and he is absolutely relentless.  

[00:33:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Well, maybe one day, we'll all three win the lottery.  

[00:33:41] Rich Chelson:

That would be cool.  

[00:33:43] Duuude-Ron :

That would be cool.   Well, I guess you have to plan it. It'll win.  

[00:33:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That it it usually helps.   I keep forgetting to do that.   Yeah.   I'm just living vicariously   through you, dude.  

[00:34:13] Duuude-Ron :

Well, why thank you.  

[00:34:16] Rich Chelson:

I try, man. I try.  

[00:34:18] Duuude-Ron :

No. I know. Yeah. You're right. You try. You try my fucking nerves   on a on a weekly basis. So, yeah, you are you're you're you would definitely have the trying   down   pat. So   went to Abilene today.   They're finally getting their heads out of   their fourth points of contact.   Well, that's   Only   what I've been going there now   for fucking   a year.   Today, I only had labels   and all the rest of the load, good, secured,   the way it's supposed to be.   And you know what?   Damn.   I was fucking shocked.   And gentlemen,   And and their   air patient's manager.   That plant manager's   boss   was there, and I'm sure he overheard me and Paul's conversation   about No. You know, the load and something like that. And I'm like, yo. You know what? Your drivers are the ones that pick it up. If they don't wanna tell the branches to get their shit fixed,   I'd be like, nope. I ain't taking it.  

And my boss will back me 100%.   Right. You don't the branches don't wanna do what they're supposed to do.   It can sit there until it gets   Yeah. I'll see. It's gonna back me a %.   Now I just It should be that way. Fix yours.   You're right.  

[00:36:21] Rich Chelson:

I mean, people need to do their jobs that they're hired to do.  

[00:36:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   And so I got   one branch.   And I'll yeah. Once I do my inventory,   I always go back and move my labels.   And,   well, even,   Annus has started to get   a lot better.   But, you know, if there's some   that I may choose because it's,   the diamond is discolored   Yeah. That's on that's Ron's discretion. And I'll change that label, and I won't say anything about it whatsoever.   But it's like when you have a whole crapload, it's like,   you know what? Let's go, gentlemen. Get out here. We got   I'll just start   scraping them off.  

[00:37:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Well, yeah, you learn from the one from the one time   that the DOT   will just make up their own rules.  

[00:37:29] Rich Chelson:

So,   yeah, no. Making people do   do what   you know, do their job,   there's   there's nothing wrong with that.  

[00:37:45] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No, man. No problem at all on that.  

[00:37:48] Rich Chelson:

You know?   A lot of people get upset and all, but you know what? You were hired to do a job. No. Yeah. But and it doesn't bother you as much when you realize why they're mad.  

[00:38:01] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, a lot of people will try to mitigate the like,   oh, darn. We lost dude.  

[00:38:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:38:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. His phone was cutting in and out pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. He was getting some cellular Chinese going on there, so I was afraid that was gonna happen here pretty soon.   But   well, there he is.   He's coming back in.   So   but, I don't know. And yeah. But, I mean, people   the reason that, people get mad about it is because   they know you're right. And you called them out on it, and now they they feel like they're,   they're a fool   because they tried to throw the wool over your eyes, and you didn't didn't allow them,   to play that game. And so, yeah, they get mad about it. They get angry. They get pissy.  

And, yeah, I do too. I there's been several times where I've done something, and all of a sudden, somebody calls me out on what I've said. I'm like, fuck you, dude.   Piss off. Go do something else.  

[00:39:03] Rich Chelson:

Right.   And and and even   even though you knew they were right, and and that's why you should've done it. You know? I no. I know. I'm I'm   I'm I'm not I'm not impervious to it.   It's like, fuck.   Usually usually, when someone brings it up, I'm like, yeah. I know I should've done it that way.   But I did.   And I gotta fix it. You know?  

[00:39:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:39:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:39:31] Bryan Goodwin:

But, usually, the people who are very   egocentric and they allow their egos to   to run run rampant,   They're the ones who get all   bent out of whack. If you're if you're   humble and and,   and got a lot of gratitude, then,   you know, someone call you out and you're like, alright. Alright. But, you know, I'll fess up. I'm a   I was trying to pay I was trying to cheat, and don't let me.  

[00:40:03] Rich Chelson:

Right.   It's like, damn it. I was trying not to get caught, man.   Damn it. That didn't work out too much. Didn't work out at all. Damn it.  

[00:40:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   No. I got caught, and I got egg on my face. This is what this ain't this going downhill fast. So  

[00:40:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I know. It it it,   yeah, it's, yeah, somewhat of a of a, bitter pill to swallow, ain't it? It is. Yeah.  

[00:40:35] Bryan Goodwin:

It's a good pill that you need to swallow, though.  

[00:40:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Because,   you know, this way in the future, you know, I'm just gonna do it.   That dude's gone again.  

[00:40:48] Bryan Goodwin:

His phone is We're trying to have a philosophical discussion with him, and he just keeps keeps   whipping off.   Yeah. He's like, screw this. I'm out, dude. Or his phone is. Not him. Yeah. It's not him. His phone was like, oh, dude. I already know that. I've got the Internet connected here. I already you know?  

[00:41:06] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Yeah. No. It's it's   I don't know. It's it's,   yeah, it just it   makes me laugh a lot of times. Alright. Yeah.  

[00:41:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Do something like that. You know? Oh, yeah. Especially whenever I go off and get busted.   Yeah. Just like,   shit. Alright.   So Yeah. But   speaking of doing stuff and and getting busted and all that, I guess,   got one little line of of business need   to need to go ahead and approach.   And,   well, since I am going to be there's gonna be one week   out of the month   that I won't be available on the show.   Right. So,   so   yeah. I know. I am.   So   I I I'd be I'd be a slacking   by being out there. You know, a PFE   with with a with a bunch of sand.   So   but,   but, I did I was just kinda curious on,   we just wanna keep this going at,   with this, or do you want well, I guess we'll be able to set up so that we can,   I would just have to make sure that on Saturdays, I I still get the,   you'll probably still have to go go off and remind me, hey? Need the   need the recording. So  

[00:42:46] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   So Yeah. I mean I mean, we can because, yeah, the Zoom I mean, the Zoom's unlocked.   So, I mean I mean, you know, I can just jump on and get everything started like I have been,   and then,   you know,   smack dude upside the head and say, yo, jump on, dude.  

[00:43:03] Bryan Goodwin:

You know?   The only other thing I'm wondering is on the veterans group.  

[00:43:10] Rich Chelson:

Dude?  

[00:43:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Because I really I know that it does the guys   good. I'm  

[00:43:18] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:43:19] Bryan Goodwin:

And so I really don't want  

[00:43:24] Duuude-Ron :

As long as one person ain't goddamn pocket all the time.  

[00:43:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I'm sorry. But that's,   that's what happens when you have three people in inoculated with a phonograph needle in the in the room. So   whether one of them wants to admit it or not.  

[00:43:43] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean I mean I mean, honestly,  

[00:43:45] Bryan Goodwin:

it's Anybody? He's a he he already knows he is.  

[00:43:49] Rich Chelson:

Oh,  

[00:43:50] Bryan Goodwin:

me?   No. I said my navy buddy.  

[00:43:53] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   which   one?   Which   one?  

[00:43:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, the only one that I was in the same I was on the same same ship with.   So   Well, him as well.  

[00:44:08] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. I mean I mean I mean I mean, Scott's gotten better. Scott's gotten better.   But,  

[00:44:14] Bryan Goodwin:

yeah, sometimes he can just run crazy. But Oh, yeah. This guy. Just You know? Well, he's it's kinda like, kinda like y'all,   it's him and d and d like y'all are with with jeeps.   So   you mentioned d and d around him. It's just, oh, hey, or or anything   in that general vicinity, which is awesome because you just see him light up, then he starts talking a million miles a minute and talking about stuff you have no clue what the hell he's talking about.   You know? And that's the d plus d 20 plus. You know? Like, what? Hey. Wonderful. You know?  

[00:44:48] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, that's,   you know, that's the thing. If you leave the Zoom open,   this is just my opinion. I can guarantee you the Wednesday night call will fail.   It'll drop.   I mean,   you can keep it going for when you're on,   but but that week that you're off,   I mean, you know, me and dude are  

[00:45:11] Bryan Goodwin:

you know? But Yeah. Y'all got y'all got kinda y'all zone little,   little pow wow group that pops up on, like, Tuesdays or something like that.  

[00:45:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. We don't. Well well, Zoom.   Dude calls me, and we just chitchat about nothing, really. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Here.  

[00:45:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Pretty much.  

[00:45:31] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. We just, yeah, we just talk Tuesday, and then Wednesday, well, you know, everyone else talks. And then Thursday, we all talk. So Yeah. But, you know, like like this Tuesday, I was   I was telling dude how   how,   I was I was playing Fortnite with Breezy   and everything. So, yeah, that was, yeah, that was fun. Were you running around a Snoop Dogg?   No. No. I wouldn't run around with Snoop Dogg as Snoop Dogg.   But  

[00:46:04] Bryan Goodwin:

but John has got he's gotten into Fortnite. And so, yeah, he's   I think he I think his kids finally talked to went to getting,   talking them into into   to realizing that Snoop Dogg is just sold last   month.   And so  

[00:46:20] Rich Chelson:

Oh, do you know?  

[00:46:24] Bryan Goodwin:

So he's like, I guess I need to find somebody else.   Right. It's like I may go on the go on Warzone again just so I can get Jay and Sam Bob.  

[00:46:35] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, I'd in fact, I just started playing Call of Duty, like, yesterday  

[00:46:41] Bryan Goodwin:

or day before yesterday,  

[00:46:43] Rich Chelson:

and, I'm already up to level 16.   Oh. My nephew   said, dude, we need to play a game together.   And he asked me about Call of Duty, and I'm like, no. I don't know. Fuck. I don't know, dude. And so   I went ahead and got it, and he, me and him   played together.   So I don't think it was last night. I think night before something. Either way,   we went into,   like, the boot camp, and   you can you know, we played online.   Yeah. And, it was it was it was me and him in a squad,   and   you run around killing people. Right? Yeah.   And and and it's, like, freaking cool. And then,   shit. I got up to, like, level 12   that night.  

I mean, I Yeah. It's not hard. No. It's not hard. And then and then I, played the day.   I jumped in a Humvee.   It was fire shit. People trying to shoot at me, running around, trying to run away from me, and I just ran them over with the Humvee.   Yeah. Over, like,   and one dude   yeah. Yeah. One dude tried to back into a building. I drove right in the building and ran him over and then backed out.  

[00:48:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. It was it was it was fucking great. It's hilarious. It's a it's a riot of a game.   I'm just not a big   battle royale fan. That that that game mode is not doesn't really  

[00:48:20] Rich Chelson:

Well, if you get, black ops six   or or the, like, the black ops three, which is cheaper or Yeah. One of them is free or, like, Modern Warfare   and play the campaigns.   Uh-huh. You can you can actually   play by yourself and not play it online.  

[00:48:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. No. And, I mean but there are multiplayer games that that I like on there. There is I mean, especially if you get, like, buy, like, the game, like, Black Ops six or Modern Warfare three   or any of those,   The,   the multiplayer is there's a lot of multiplayer I like. I like team, I like team deathmatch.   I like just straight up deathmatch where it's you against everybody else, and it's just mass chaos.   But in the war zone section, there is a   at least there was. I don't know. I haven't played   in probably about almost a year, but,   there was a   a tie a   a game mode that was   you had a,   you and, your squad   would land, and y'all tried to, a,   collect up as much money as you can.  

And, you know, and as you went, you actually you had to connect it to a a balloon,   lock the balloon so that,   so that you could actually,   hold on to it. Because if you had a whole bunch of money   and you got killed, you lost what money was on your on your person.   And I can't remember what it was called. I'm wanting to say it was, like, a heist or something like that.   But K.   That one was fucked.  

[00:50:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I just I I was I was playing on my online a little bit in that in that boot camp, and,   there was, like, me and, like,   I don't know,   40 other motherfuckers.  

[00:50:19] Duuude-Ron :

And I  

[00:50:21] Rich Chelson:

these guys   must not have been playing long because   I was placing   the highest I placed was eight,   and the lowest I placed was 12.   So   that's not too bad. Yeah.  

[00:50:36] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? But your dad's trying to go trying to bond with their sons.  

[00:50:41] Rich Chelson:

Could be. And and, I mean, that's fine because,   you know, I you you know, and you see at first, you know,   and I had to get used to the game because   Call of Duty is a faster paced  

[00:50:54] Bryan Goodwin:

first game. It   is not, not,  

[00:50:58] Rich Chelson:

Fortnite at all. Yeah. No. Or or breakpoint or wildlands.   That's Yeah. That's a lot slower. You know? Wildlands a lot slower. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so I had to get used to that, but now I'm not I'm doing better. I mean, I'm   trust me. I'm not   I'm not  

[00:51:17] Bryan Goodwin:

good. Jumping in the tournament anytime soon. No. No. No. No. But,  

[00:51:24] Rich Chelson:

I am I am, I am, getting better   and everything. So   but, I mean, it's it's actually kinda fun.  

[00:51:34] Bryan Goodwin:

I guess I need   to jump back on   and dust off my spray and pray.  

[00:51:40] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You're   you're a private,   it says.   I I mean, it might   might have been showing me some wrong information,   but,  

[00:51:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I thought I wasn't I mean, it might be for whatever the season is too too. So  

[00:51:57] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I don't know. All I know is that is that when I,   bring your name up and look at your character,   it says you're private,   but that could change once you log in too.  

[00:52:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Well,   But, yeah, I mean,   I I know that they changed over. They had   a they had a,   a   went to a different area there for a while, and now they're back to Verdansk.   And that's the only place that I've ever played at. It was on Verdansk.  

[00:52:34] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Well, they're,   yeah, they're they're, they're playing there. And,   yeah, it was I mean, it's it's, it's, actually   kinda fun.  

[00:52:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   They keep Verdance going till next,   next October,   and they do the zombie event again.   That got fun.   Really? Yeah. Because you'd be you'd have all, you know, all 100 people, they'd come in and land. And, yeah, you'd still have the the storm that you're having to avoid or the gas or whatever it is.   And so you're doing the the whole   the whole,   battle royale thing. And then about halfway in, all of a sudden,   you'd get a notice.   Some anomaly is coming in, is coming in. And then as you're playing, all of a sudden, zombies start coming out over the hills and stuff. And so not only are you trying to kill everybody else, you're having to kill all the zombies, and   it it become oh, god damn. It was just a a riot. It would be like it was like a bill crashed ship on one side, and that was kind of the origin   of where they were coming from. They were coming out from all the everybody every place else. And so Oh, it was a blast.  



[00:53:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   okay.  

[00:53:52] Duuude-Ron :

And what were   those the those TV shows that had the zombies?  

[00:53:58] Bryan Goodwin:

All, The Walking Dead.  

[00:54:02] Duuude-Ron :

I   and there was several   runoffs of the original   Walking Dead. And how many seasons are they up to?  

[00:54:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Walking Dead has ended. I think it ended, what, two years ago.  

[00:54:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Right. But how many seasons did they go? Got, like, what, fifteen, sixteen seasons?  

[00:54:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Quite a few. Let's see here.  

[00:54:26] Rich Chelson:

They've got I have not.   Like, eight seasons.  

[00:54:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And I have not Eleven seasons. Watch   one of those fucking shows.  

[00:54:37] Rich Chelson:

Why?   Those are actually cool.   Maggie is hot as well.  

[00:54:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Man. Okay. They they got out. Yeah. Maggie was awesome. Maggie was hot. But it was   the first, I don't know, five, six. I mean, it would we got up to the season   or two seasons   past   when   oh,   Jeffrey Dean Morgan's,   character.   Negan.   Negan. Negan. Yeah.   When Negan came on the scene and and stuff,   about two seasons after that, we were just like, okay.   They are not gonna change the they the, the they they found their their their, their rhythm. It's we've got a bad guy.   Oh my. We've got we gotta face the bad guy. Okay. We're facing the bad guy.   We defeat the bad guy. We find peace   until next season. Well, it's not even in one season. It's like in three seasons. They they're they're fighting the bad guys.  

And so and then it starts over again. Oh, we've got a new bad guy.   We gotta face the bad guy. And we get up to the point where we're gonna have to face the bad guy. And so then we got the season next season, and they're fighting the bad guy. And then, you know, the last season or the season after that is they defeat the bad guy. And now we finally find peace.   And, oh, now we got it was like,   son of a bitch, man. You can't you can only   find find a bad guy, defeat the bad fight the bad guy, defeat the bad guy only so so often. And so we me and, Janet just got tired of it, and we're like, okay. Well, we know what's gonna happen. I'm sure it's,   and,  

[00:56:22] Duuude-Ron :

you see, every every damn show was   go kill zombies.   Okay. That's about interesting for about ten minutes. And then   what next next step of zombies, what are we gonna do? The zombies actually kinda took a bad seat after about  

[00:56:38] Bryan Goodwin:

after, like, the first, second season.   Yeah. You always had the zombies   in, you know,   being present,   but they were just kind of an annoyance. You you had to go out and try to find find food and whatever and, oh, there's a group of zombies over here, so we better come over here and,   and stuff. And so you kinda had to   kinda had to they kinda got over that, but it was you know? Yeah. It was it was more of the how brutal can human beings be to other humans.  

[00:57:14] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Well, I only wanna   Yeah.  

[00:57:18] Duuude-Ron :

And take your word for it.  

[00:57:21] Rich Chelson:

No. And, you say, dude, it say it wasn't so much about the zombies as it was the,   the   having to deal with other people and deal with themselves and   all like this, you know, because   you wound up,   you know, I mean, shoot. Their clan grew, and then, of course, you've got people that have different opinions and ideas, and they have no fucking clue as to what's going on and how to survive.   You know? But they think they do.   You know? So it's it's it's not just about the zombies.   Zombies was a,   just a   little filler.  

[00:58:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That was the plot motivator is is kinda what it was.   Right.   So   but,   but, again, I I mean, if y'all wanna talk shows,   I'll need to watch Yellowstone.  

[00:58:24] Rich Chelson:

Oh.  

[00:58:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. No. No. No.  

[00:58:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Why not? No.   Why? I don't know.   Exactly. You don't know what you're freaking missing.  

[00:58:39] Duuude-Ron :

Hate that I'm watching right now.  

[00:58:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I   I I tell you, Yellowstone was and I'm not even talking about the spin off,   you know, of 1883   and 1923   or whatever they are.   I'm just talking about the original Kevin Costner,   Kelly   Reilly, Yellowstone.   That is like I said,   I think I mentioned it several times before.   I mean, just the fact that you start off, you kinda like going, who the hell are these people? Man, that is a fucked up family. And by the end of it, you're going, that's a damn good family. They've got some values.   And you cheer them on because they have a reason to stand, and they're standing against society   and   and the invasion of society into, into the, into the family,   end of the family,   dynamic.  

And it's it's a it I mean, yeah, there's   there's different aspects of it. I mean,   it's centered around a whole bunch of men with just a couple of women stuck in there.   And so you see what you see the effects of what a nice guy does.   You see the effects of what a true masculine   man is,   and you see that the true masculine man attracts the other men to him.   Right.   You see what happens when a man is driven to   maintain his vision   and uphold his promise. I mean, that's a day it's a it is. It really is a damn good five seasons.  

[01:00:32] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:00:35] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, that's all it is. It's not it it's not thirty eight seasons or anything like that. It's just it's five seasons long,   has has a very distinct,   story arc,   damn good movie or to the show. And I recommend it. I'll keep throwing it around until I get one of y'all to go, oh,   okay. I see what this is about now. Okay.  

[01:00:57] Rich Chelson:

Five years later, you Five be stuck in the middle of talking it.  

[01:01:01] Bryan Goodwin:

I'll I'll I'll probably end up sending y'all, the complete,   the complete,   series as a as a Christmas present or something.  

[01:01:14] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shoot.   That's,  

[01:01:17] Bryan Goodwin:

man. There's the the first couple of episodes, you get,   you get little glimpses of Kelly Riley's boobs.   That's a win all the way around.  

[01:01:26] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh. Yeah. That's that's what a two second shot maybe?  

[01:01:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Maybe.   Okay. But the boobs.   Yeah. Right? Hey. She's setting she's setting in a hawk, in a in a in a, watering   trough   naked. Alright?   So   two seconds is is   it does me good.   Ask my wife. It doesn't take long.  

[01:01:56] Duuude-Ron :

Do you ever watch Dallas  

[01:01:58] Bryan Goodwin:

when you were Not back when it was on you. Yeah.   The old Dallas, not the new reboot that they tried to do that was Yeah. Not the old Dallas. The original with Yeah. JR.   Yep. With JR.   I still like to know what JR did with Genie, though.  

[01:02:17] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know what they did. They just didn't show it or talk about it that much.   They couldn't back then. Dude, that was in the middle eighties.  

[01:02:37] Bryan Goodwin:

So  

[01:02:38] Duuude-Ron :

The only thing that I liked   of the show Dallas was the theme song.  

[01:02:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. That was always that was very memorable, and   most of us would hear that. And,   we could tell you exactly probably by even before the first horn honked.   We can tell you that, oh, hey. That's the same to Dallas.   Yep.  

[01:03:11] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. As soon as the theme song stopped playing, I turned the channel.   Well, it's amazing.   Like   but every week, religiously,   I watched Dukes of Hadrian   and Fantasy Island   came on on Friday night   Yep. If I wasn't if I wasn't at skating rink.  

[01:03:43] Rich Chelson:

The plane.   The plane bus. The plane.  

[01:03:49] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I was usually always at the skating rink.   So   That's where my life was.  

[01:04:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[01:04:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I spent about,   oh, probably   thirty hours a week on roller skates growing up.  

[01:04:14] Rich Chelson:

That's quite a bit of time. Not really bad.  

[01:04:17] Duuude-Ron :

Nope.   That's when a roller skating rink   was freaking   packed.   I mean, you could barely move   on the floor.   But those were the times.  

[01:04:35] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:04:37] Duuude-Ron :

You know, skating rink here that I go to every once in a while,   it might have   30 people max.  

[01:04:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, wow. That's hardly anybody now.   Yeah. Get it out of town.  

[01:04:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. When I was growing up, we we'd probably have   a 50,  

[01:04:59] Bryan Goodwin:

two hundred kids in that skating rink at one time. All at one time. Moving as a On Friday. Moving as a single unit.   Yep.  

[01:05:08] Duuude-Ron :

On Friday and Saturday nights. Yep.   Oh, yeah.   Those were the days.  

[01:05:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely.  

[01:05:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I went I went roller skating a couple times, but   that wasn't my big old thing. You know?  

[01:05:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:05:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, I just couldn't do it very much. Why.  

[01:05:42] Duuude-Ron :

No. My mom worked at the skating rink, so that's why Right. We went.   And that's why she worked at the skating rink so we could go skating.   So hey. Yep.   So, anyway, my   watching,   Harry Potter.  

[01:06:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey. Harry Potter's a good one.  

[01:06:09] Duuude-Ron :

Alright.  

[01:06:12] Rich Chelson:

Harry Potter.  

[01:06:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   The first one.  

[01:06:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I've I've always always against the set of shows to watch. Yeah. I watched the first one. I've I've watched  

[01:06:29] Rich Chelson:

a couple of, I think, of the others, but,   you know,   I really haven't.   I don't think I watched them all.   I don't think I have. Oh, really?   Yeah. I don't think I have.  

[01:06:52] Duuude-Ron :

I've seen them all about   probably   couple hundred times.  

[01:06:59] Rich Chelson:

Oh, really?  

[01:07:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[01:07:03] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Yeah. I just I just never   I mean, I liked them, but,   yeah, I I mean, I might have watched,   I might have watched them all, but I don't know.  

[01:07:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:07:27] Rich Chelson:

So   I don't know.  

[01:07:31] Duuude-Ron :

I  

[01:07:33] Rich Chelson:

just don't know.  

[01:07:38] Duuude-Ron :

What do you know? That's the question.  

[01:07:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Then   Little as little as you can get away with.  

[01:07:47] Rich Chelson:

That's right. Yeah.   I refer to,   Google.   You know?   Yeah.   So   but yeah. No. I just I mean I mean well   well, when I watched the first   first Harry Potter,   I   I have fell in love with Hermione. Oh my god.   I just I just love her voice.   Yeah. You know?   But no. It was a good movie too. I I liked it.  

[01:08:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. She was,   I can't remember what movie it was,   but she was one of the Disney   heroines,   but I I don't remember which one. It wasn't   it wasn't Cinderella or,  

[01:08:56] Bryan Goodwin:

who's the one with Bill? She played Bell.  

[01:08:59] Duuude-Ron :

Bell. That's right. Yeah. That's it. Yeah.  

[01:09:07] Rich Chelson:

Played Belle. In what?  

[01:09:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. In the live action, Beauty and the Beast.   Yep. Live  

[01:09:14] Rich Chelson:

action.   Yep.   Oh,  

[01:09:19] Duuude-Ron :

I haven't watched it. The cartoon?   What was the latest one that just came out?  

[01:09:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, the horrendous Snow White and the seven dwarfs?  

[01:09:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. Yeah. Snow White.   Yeah. That that flopped like  

[01:09:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. It it it fell, like, it   it went over like a fart in the church.  

[01:09:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   No lead   or lead turd.  

[01:09:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I haven't watched either of the, what, the beauty and the beast y'all said.  

[01:09:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not horrendous. It's it it's, it's decent.   I mean, it's just   I I still prefer the original.  

[01:10:08] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So I mean, I   I ain't seen any of them, so I don't know.   I have no clue.   I probably ought to watch those because I've heard they're actually not too bad.  

[01:10:28] Bryan Goodwin:

No. They're not they're not bad at all.   You know?  

[01:10:34] Rich Chelson:

So   I might   I don't know. I say I might have to watch it, but then again, I probably won't.   But you never know. I might I might get a wild hair up my butt.  

[01:10:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely. Oh, there it went and written. Dude, it's gone again. Yep.   We need to get him a get him a better   service plan.  

[01:11:01] Rich Chelson:

Need to get him a better provider.  

[01:11:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Exactly. He wants it.  

[01:11:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. Freaking T Mobile is just is just yeah. It I mean, I I've known I I mean, I've known people   to have good luck with T Mobile,   but   if you're on a fringe area of T Mobile, you just might as well give it up.   Yep. You know?   I just it's like I I mean, yeah. Yeah. Veterans,   I can get phones for half off, you know,   service plans   Uh-huh.   And everything, and that's great. But still, it's it's the fact that   their service sucks.   Yeah.   You know?   But if you watch their commercials, oh,   we have better service than anybody else. Yeah. I beg the difference.  

[01:11:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Fine better than everybody else.  

[01:11:59] Rich Chelson:

Right. What are you talking about? AT and T? Okay. I can believe that.  

[01:12:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I can buy that one. Yeah. Because I, yeah,  

[01:12:08] Rich Chelson:

I I can't stand AT and T.   Nope.   I just can't. But   so   but yeah. Like well,   yeah. Wednesday nights, man. I don't know, dude.  

[01:12:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. If I may if I do it again, if I if I decide we do decide to go ahead and keep trying to trying to keep it going, I'll need to remake the   remake the room so that the,   so that it's open.   Yeah. So that anybody can jump in when they want.   So   that'll be the   that'd be the big the big portion of it.  

[01:12:57] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:12:59] Bryan Goodwin:

That way, we don't have to worry about somebody   being on and have them go off and make you, the,   make you the host every time or something like that. Right. That'll   find a way to make you the host all   add you to the, to the   the account somehow. That's the thing I keep trying to figure out is it's like, how do I add you so that whenever it's time   to time to grab the,   the,   the audio,   for the show, you're able to grab the audio   and   and we can't quite seem to get the, the audio or   get you added to it.  

[01:13:42] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   because, yeah, that see that?   Oh, you see that? That's where   that's where my knowledge kinda ends because,   you know, when when,   Matt and I was doing the show, I just did the audio   Right.   And everything. You know? And so, I mean, it wasn't a big deal, so I never had to figure that out.   Let's see what dude says.   Dude says he'll be back when he gets the signal.  

[01:14:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[01:14:12] Rich Chelson:

So,  

[01:14:13] Bryan Goodwin:

yeah, he got a signal. He's back. He got signal. Yay.  

[01:14:19] Duuude-Ron :

Finally.   There it is.   Dude,  

[01:14:23] Rich Chelson:

you had sent a message. I just read it to Brian, and you ding dong in. And then ding dong.   You ding dong.   Yeah. I'm not, yeah, I'm not even gonna try keep saying that word.   I would screw the pooch on that one.  

[01:14:40] Duuude-Ron :

Probably.   Yeah. Yeah. I know. I get if we don't have signal in the area, I'll get an explanation   point next to my,   you know, my signal bar.   Right. So and that's happened twice tonight.  

[01:14:58] Rich Chelson:

That's crazy.   What they doing?   Messing with your tower or something?  

[01:15:03] Duuude-Ron :

Hell, I don't know.   Or relocating the damn thing.  

[01:15:12] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:15:13] Duuude-Ron :

That wouldn't surprise me. Well, shit. I've always had   issues for with the Zoom for a fucking   signal every   almost every fucking time we talk.  

[01:15:25] Bryan Goodwin:

At least once. Yeah.  

[01:15:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh, well. Guess this is good now.  

[01:15:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It'll hold for a little bit  

[01:15:36] Rich Chelson:

for the next ten minutes.  

[01:15:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. For the next ten minutes, probably. I got four bars right now. So  

[01:15:42] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:15:43] Duuude-Ron :

Well, we'll see.   If I drop off, you'll know why I dropped off.   I'm surprised   I'm surprised that message even went out on, Messenger to you, Rich.  

[01:15:56] Rich Chelson:

Now I came through.  

[01:15:58] Duuude-Ron :

As I'm typing it   and it I'm still getting the circle for preparing the meeting.   I'm like, I'm typing. I'm like,   why the fuck am I even typing this if I don't have signal? It's not like the fucking my message is even gonna fucking go through if I don't got a damn signal.  

[01:16:17] Rich Chelson:

Right. But  

[01:16:18] Duuude-Ron :

I sent it out and   Sure enough. I guess it just happened to sneak through.  

[01:16:27] Rich Chelson:

It made through. Yeah?   Fine.   Well, I will say the last couple days,   have been really shitty. It's it's finally been real good today for well, I wouldn't say real good today. The the, KP level on the sunspots have has been down.   Previous two days,   yeah, it yeah. We had a g three   storm hit.   And, yeah, it it   it fuckered up communication's   hard   for a good while. I mean, I was I was able to run digital modes, but I wasn't able to run voice.  

[01:17:05] Bryan Goodwin:

And and this Which is funny because, you know, digital usually blips out is the first thing to give out. Analog usually can you can hold on to stuff on analog signal a whole lot further,  

[01:17:17] Rich Chelson:

it seems.   Yeah. Normally. But but on single side band voice, it's,   it's like a three kilohertz wide signal,   Okay? Which is actually a wide signal, whereas,   data,   digital,   you know, like FTA   ready   PSK 31, all them Okay. Modes,   they   they run on the average of 1.5   kilohertz signal, so it's so it's thinner.  

[01:17:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow. Okay. And,   So it does it survives better than  

[01:17:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It does, actually. And and, actually,   was it yesterday or the day before yesterday?   Day before yesterday, I think, I,   when when the sun's sunspot level was showing a 7.7,   which is higher than fuck,   I I was able to make a FTA contact to, The Congo.   So   but,   but, today, it was funny.   I was   I was up early this morning,   and there was nothing on the radio till about 09:00. And then there was still a bunch of noise because we still had some residual   effects. Even though even though the KP index was at two   two point zero, which is gray,   the, atmospheric noise was just fucking terrible.  

So it it it finally cleared up   real good probably around   two   two, two thirty, three o'clock   when it finally cleared up.   But   yeah. Yeah.   We had a big o,   g three storm hit,   and it just, yeah, it just played hell with   comms for a while.   Uh-huh. So  

[01:19:20] Duuude-Ron :

so what would that what would that be? Us like, a solar flare   is causing that or just a  

[01:19:27] Rich Chelson:

Either either a, solar flare or a or a CME,   which is stands for a a, corneal mass ejection.   Basically,   yeah, solar flare in a way.   And and you see, the thing is, though,   when you have a solar flare,   if it if it glances,   if it's you know, when it comes off the sun,   depending on the winds and everything like that, the space winds and and everything, it could make it glance and not affect us real bad.   Or if it if it just slams into the side and, you know, into Earth,   then, yeah, it it screws up GPS, cell phone, everything   for a while,  

[01:20:13] Duuude-Ron :

at least for a while.  

[01:20:15] Rich Chelson:

You know?   But I didn't I didn't hear of any,   cell phone outages or no.   Yeah. I didn't hear anybody either. So But it played pretty good with, HF radio.   But it should be better tomorrow.   So Oh, good.   Yeah. Yeah. It should be good for   well, I don't know. I   I'd need to look at the because I get the forecast for the   for, like, today and the previous   excuse me.   Not the previous stuff. Future two days. Yeah. So from,   like well, right now, it's it's April 18   as far as, UTC time goes,   because it's like,   01:30   in the morning.   So,   yeah. It's good all the way through the twentieth,   which should be good through,   see what's today? Thursday. Friday.  

Saturday night.  

[01:21:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[01:21:28] Duuude-Ron :

So Now do you get a better do you get a better signal at night?  

[01:21:35] Rich Chelson:

Certain bands, yes.   Certain bands open up at night, like, 40 meters, 80 meters will open up at night. During the day, 10 meters have been running.   Well, 20 is always running.   But 12:15,   and 17 meters,   those are kinda hit and miss depending   on,   the   elayer, delayer,   and shit like that open space   just above the   Earth.   It   it depends on the,   absorption of,   the the ion particles.  

[01:22:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   That's that was, like, that's what I was gonna ask because it what's affected in the ionosphere?  

[01:22:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. It's and, yeah, and if the sun if the sun doesn't charge it up good enough,   yeah, those bands are out. You don't yeah. You can't use them.   Maybe,   again, maybe for some digital work, but not much.   Like like, the other day,   yeah, I got to Congo. I got Azores   Island,   which is   part part of the Canary Islands, just north of of of the Canary Islands.   And I think I got one or two calls down in South America. The rest were   here in The States.   So   Yeah.   Yeah. It just, you know, it just   just kinda I mean I mean I mean, once you learn this stuff, it's it's   it's, easier to understand.  

I know it's I know it's very confusing.   You know, some people might be listening to this, be like, what the fuck is he talking about?  

[01:23:27] Duuude-Ron :

It's Hell, I'm listening to you and I'm going, what the fuck? Man. Hell, I'm listening. I'm going what the fuck?  

[01:23:35] Rich Chelson:

A,doublea,a,doubler,l.0rg.   You can   you can get information about   all that stuff.  

[01:23:46] Duuude-Ron :

It's American  

[01:23:48] Rich Chelson:

it's the American Radio Relay League. They've got links to all that,   and and they explain it   and everything.  

[01:23:57] Duuude-Ron :

In layman's terms,   where stupid people like me can understand.  

[01:24:02] Rich Chelson:

To a point.   To a point.   Because sometimes I've read stuff on on that website. I'm like, I don't fucking understand this shit.   You know? And it's like, I gotta go searching. You know?   Yeah.   But,   but   once you learn it, you know it. You know?   Yeah.   Yeah. It just it just   you try and,   you know, cheat the,   propagation and and sunspots as much as you can and know that you ain't gonna do it. You just suck it up and   play by their rules.   But, you know, I still try and,   cheat them.  

[01:24:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Kinda like the law offices.  

[01:24:52] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:24:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Law offices. Do we cheat them and how?  

[01:24:57] Rich Chelson:

Right. But you see, that's the thing   with, sunspots and propagation.   Yeah. Screw that, bitch.   You ain't gonna get it. You know?  

[01:25:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Oh, we're talking about,   we're talking about DPS earlier.   I just saw a v   on YouTube   that they were interviewing   a   Florida   state lease.   And it's always well, it hasn't always been, but it's, you know, last fifteen years that   if   law enforcement   tow truck, you know, someone like   that has lights on, you're supposed to move over Slow down. I mean slow down 20 miles an hour.   Yeah. Or slow down to 20 miles an hour below the posted speed limit   Right. You know, for their safety.   I guess now in Florida,   it doesn't matter   if it is a   somebody changing a tire on the side of the road   or   just anybody   on the side of the road if   present,   it pull you over.  



[01:26:24] Rich Chelson:

Wow.   Say that again, dude, because you broke up for half that.  

[01:26:32] Bryan Goodwin:

And you still broke up?  

[01:26:35] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:26:40] Bryan Goodwin:

You're in a second now.  

[01:26:42] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. I'm just I'm just sitting here waiting for that, Sam. Yep.   And and and and and   he was on a good role.  

[01:26:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. He was.   It's like as soon as he starts getting doing a lot of talking, it's like, oh, hey. Never mind. We don't want you talking no more. There he goes. There he goes.   Mazel tov.  

[01:27:08] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shit. That was funny. Damn.   But yeah. No. Last last couple days, I just I just kinda fiddled playing   radio.   Monday, I played I, I went out to my park and   made 61 contacts, man.   Oh, there you go. Yeah. It was it was a good day.   It was a good day. All on 20 watts, all with 20 watts, man.  

[01:27:33] Bryan Goodwin:

That is actually really good. Right?  

[01:27:38] Rich Chelson:

But   and,   so, yeah,   I can't remember. Yeah. It was yesterday, I think.   One of the FTA contacts I made, it was funny. It was it was kinda cool.   Kinda reminded me when when I was new.   This guy this guy,   you know, I had, uploaded my logs and sent a QSL card   to this guy.   And, his name's Pauly.   And,   he was he had wrote back. He's like, thanks, man. He's like,   he's only been a ham for less than two years.   And,   he sent me a a picture of his shack.   You know?   Uh-huh. And everything like that. He's like, well,   I don't have a I don't have a QSL card yet, fully designed yet, but he's working on it. And I wrote back. I told him I said, dude, use the picture you sent me. It'd be perfect   for, you know, a QSL card.  

And,   you know, I told him, you you know, it's good to hear someone   that's that's excited.   You know? Because Oh, yeah. At least at least I know there is someone like me because I after eighteen years,   I still get excited. I still do a happy dance when I make a contact.   Now, yeah, I I'm man, I'm a geek. I ain't gonna lie, but, you know, I like like, on FTA.   You know?   When I'm sitting here   making an FTA contact,   I look for that Roger, Roger, Roger. As soon as I get that Roger, Roger, Roger,   boom, this screen pops up, and it's in the log. Yeah, baby.   We good.  

You know? Or   or if I'm talking on a single sideband, you know, when I make a contact because it it's just it's it's crazy   to take a radio,   put a signal through it, through a piece of wire.   I got a piece of wire hanging up in the yard.   Yep. Okay.   And I talk around the fucking world. That still astounds me. Even though I know the concept,   even though I know   how,   it still astounds me to this day. Right.   That's why   I that's why I love the hobby.   And and, honestly, with the QSL cards I've sent out,   god dang, I've gotten back probably 30 or 40 of them. And, you know, I've sent   well, I've gone through my whole log book, which is almost 3,000 contacts and sent cards out.  

Nice.   Yeah.   But, yeah, I've gotten, like, in just in the last couple weeks, I've gotten, like, 30 or 40 of them.   And,   yeah, it's it's,   you know, it's cool. You know? Because, it just it's it's something hams used to do years ago. And then I mean I mean, hams still do it, but,   you know, a lot of ham's have gotten away from it.   I'm like, fuck it. You know?   Send them a QSL card because,   you know,   with all the younger kids getting in,   they need to see that, hey. You know?   This is still part of the hobby,   and it's the main part. You know?   So  

[01:31:01] Duuude-Ron :

And what's a QLC   card? What exactly is that?  

[01:31:06] Rich Chelson:

QSL card. It's it's a it's   a   it's a visual confirmation   of a contact between two AM radio operators.  

[01:31:16] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:31:18] Rich Chelson:

So, like   like, what, last week   or week before I worked,   whiskey five alpha Sierra Sierra.   I love that call sign. That was just awesome as fuck.   That'd be a five ass.   It was cool. And and and I had told him so on the radio when   when I heard his call,   and I said whiskey five alpha Sierra Sierra. I said, I love your fucking call. That is just awesome, dude.  

[01:31:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I didn't get it what it is. Why is that?  

[01:31:58] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:32:00] Bryan Goodwin:

But   Okay. Sometimes I'm a little slow. Just kidding. No. You're fine.  

[01:32:07] Rich Chelson:

You're fine. But   but, yeah, he, no. He, sent me a QSL card, an actual card.   And, I sent him one back,   you know, and something like that. And, I mean, it's   like I said, it was well,   back in the early days in the twenties and thirties,   HAMS logged everything on paper. Okay?   And and the only way to confirm   those those QSLs   or those contacts was by cards.   And, you know, this was this was before rewards and anything and computers and all this shit.   Well, when, when a a computer started going, people still did the cards and some still do like I do   and others, but we we also upload our logs to,   like,   QRZed,   LOTW,   and   and other people upload their logs   and contacts, and they match them. And it's and it's a lot easier to give out awards   when they can,   okay. This log this contact matches with this guy over here and blah blah blah, and it's all done by computers.  

There's Right. There's not a little dude in the corner,   you know,   searching forever.  

[01:33:31] Duuude-Ron :

But, That would be funny, though. Right?  

[01:33:34] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Little two foot dude off in the corner.   Little mouse.   But just being counter looking through millions and millions   of fucking QSOS.   I can't find it anywhere, man.   But   but yeah. No. It's it's fun. But yeah. No. I've been getting,   some physical hard cards and then some some that have been made,   and and sent out through email, which I print those. I've got probably another 50 of those   that I need   to cut down to the card size, and then I'm probably gonna put them on a board and then   stick them up on the wall in here.  

[01:34:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[01:34:22] Rich Chelson:

So I just I mean, because yeah. I've got some from, South America.   You know, I've got some from   Europe and   I can't remember   all which ones I got. I've got I've got quite a few. I've got I've got quite a few from America,   but I also have have quite a few from,   around the world too.   So   but, yeah, they've been they've been   what's up, dude?  

[01:34:59] Duuude-Ron :

When I get there, you can it's a I'll be.   I'm sure I'll get   a lot of what you're saying when I can visually see it.  

[01:35:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. You will. Once you get here and and see it and and and everything like that,   you'll get a better understanding   of of   of what I do, you know, and and, you know, we you know, I can show you more about it and everything like that. It's   it's actually kinda cool. And, actually, if you want,   you know, as long as I'm sitting there, you can talk to someone   wherever they're   at. Yeah.   You know?  

[01:35:39] Duuude-Ron :

Because you have that special ham radio   certification.  

[01:35:44] Rich Chelson:

That's right.   That's right.   So, see, Brian, if you ever come,   I can get you on the air too.  

[01:35:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yay.   I  

[01:35:57] Rich Chelson:

mean, that would   that would be cool if if, like, fucking England or Ireland come up or France.   I mean, I was I was somewhat here in France today, but it was it was with all the,   atmospheric noise, it was it was very hard to pick them out. A little tough.   Mhmm.   Yeah. It was real tough.   But or Spain or   wherever. You know?   Right. Wherever we hear them.   And, yeah, it's it's   it's a lot of fun.   So   and I noticed I I got more,   more medication coming in, and I don't know   what it is.  

[01:36:48] Bryan Goodwin:

That's that's always fun. Right. Right. You know?  

[01:36:52] Rich Chelson:

Spin   a spin a pill bottle.   VA   sent me an email and said, hey. We shipped some more   medication and just   they don't give you the name of it. They just give you the, the number of it.   I don't know I don't know what number has has my,   you know, which one is which for my number.   You know?  

[01:37:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I know.  

[01:37:24] Rich Chelson:

I know it by name, not by number.   Let's see. Hang on. Is that   no. Not that one. Thank God I've got enough of that.   I thought   I had thought they were sending me.   Oh, good god. I don't need more of that. I still got, like,   another hundred of those   vitamin d three.  

[01:37:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's like me and metformin. I only got, like, about fucking   eight bottles of fucking   medicine.  

[01:38:01] Rich Chelson:

Like, Jesus.   And   and they're sending more,   they're sending more,   fucking cholesterol medicine.   I still got a full I just opened a bottle they sent a couple months ago.   Okay. Whatever. I'll just stock it up.  

[01:38:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No shit.  

[01:38:24] Rich Chelson:

Y'all need some pills? I got some. Free, man. I get it. I give it to you.   Do you have cholesterol   problems?  

[01:38:35] Duuude-Ron :

Of course. I do. I can hook a brother up. And I'm already on medicine for it. Yeah. So am I.  

[01:38:43] Rich Chelson:

And, yeah, that was, yeah, that was when a a pharmacy girl called me the other day and wanted to put me back on a statin.   And I told her she can kiss my white ass.   I was nice. I didn't I didn't say those words.  

[01:38:57] Bryan Goodwin:

You're wanting to.  

[01:38:59] Rich Chelson:

Yes. I was. But but I did explain to her because I asked her what   what you know, I told her. I said, it should be in my notes. It's, like, five years ago.   She was like, oh, I didn't I didn't look back, you know, that far. And, you know, I just looked on the cover sheet. I said, what's the sale on the cover sheet?   What says,   it's a adverse reaction   because you had nausea and vomiting? I said, oh, no, honey. No. No. No. Never had those two   associated with the statin. Let me tell you what happened with the statin.   And so I proceeded to educate her, and I said, you can change that cover sheet because that information is wrong.  

I don't know if she did or not.   Honestly, I don't care because   you're gonna call and ask me. I'm gonna tell you to kiss my white ass. I ain't happy.   No. And and these steroids,   no.  

[01:40:02] Bryan Goodwin:

But, usually, steroids help bring down inflammation. That was what kinda surprised me when you said you were   just in all sorts of pain with it. I was just like, wow.  

[01:40:13] Rich Chelson:

Well, you see, that's the thing. You see, well, this is this is a this is a this is a corticosteroid,   whatever that means.   And they,   the side effects,   they were listed.   The six   side effects I listed,   they were listed in in the in the list of possible side effects   of this   shit.   You know? The extreme thirst, the extreme urination. Oh my god. It was like I it was like I had to pee every five to seven minutes.  

[01:40:51] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. And Damn.  

[01:40:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. It was bad. And and I I couldn't I couldn't get enough to drink.   I was I was just so thirsty.   You know?   And then and then my wrist, you know, joint pain, my wrist, my right wrist, oh my god. It felt like it was made of glass, and if I bent it, it was gonna shatter is what it felt like.   And I was like, yeah. But   I tell you what, it fucking   it freaking took away some of some of my,   some of my psoriasis,   not all of it, but some of it.   So, I mean, it did do its job.   But, yeah, I couldn't   I couldn't deal with side effects, man.  

[01:41:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:41:45] Rich Chelson:

You know?   So that's why I was like, I am discontinuing   use of this product.   So,   yeah, yeah,   yeah, doc didn't even   try and say anything.   I mean, I tried it. You know?   I was hoping it was gonna work, and I was I was gonna be good on it. You know?   Damn.   But yeah. No.   No wind up no wind up. No wind up. No working for. So Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.   Yeah. And that's the thing. I ain't shitting, like, three days either.  

[01:42:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's that's always fun.   Mhmm.  

[01:42:35] Rich Chelson:

So so, I'm expecting to  

[01:42:39] Bryan Goodwin:

send a Fill a toilet up here anytime soon.  

[01:42:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Probably tomorrow.   But   yeah.   Yep.   No. It happens. I mean,   this is what happens. I just wait, and then I go through a roll and a half of toilet paper,   and then I'm good for about a week or two.  

[01:43:06] Bryan Goodwin:

And then Cool.   Cool. Well, I don't know if it's cool, but that's just the way it works. Well, I bet you it feels better than better to you once once you're all done. Now granted, your Bobo might be a little raw, but, you know, it looks like that. Right?  

[01:43:21] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. It's like,   it's like, I need some coolness back there.  

[01:43:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, they do make those,   those those,   white ones, dude wipes.  

[01:43:36] Rich Chelson:

Do they?  

[01:43:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yep.  

[01:43:40] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I didn't know.   I might I might   might have to look into that.   I just might have to look into that   because that would help   at times.   So what y'all doing for Easter? Anything?  

[01:44:09] Duuude-Ron :

Not a damn thing. No. Not really anything.  

[01:44:14] Rich Chelson:

No. They there's  

[01:44:16] Duuude-Ron :

when I was up in Abilene, they were,   for Lubbock, they were predicting snow   on each What?   Yeah. Now now the snow is no longer in the prediction,   but it's, like, supposed to be down in the freaking   yeah.  

[01:44:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Little above freezing. This is why I keep telling people   what my grand granddad told me, and he had a couple acres of gardens,   that you do not let your plants rise until the good Lord has,   which means you don't plant your garden until after Easter.  

[01:45:00] Rich Chelson:

Right.   No. That is true.   Yeah. You, yeah, you got from Easter till about   about the first week in May, if if I remember, Ray.  

[01:45:17] Bryan Goodwin:

It's a really busy time, but, yeah, as soon as Easter's done, yeah, start just start showing them in the book in the ground.  

[01:45:25] Duuude-Ron :

Do you want your   I got a friend of mine that says or we were talking the other night. He's got, like, about 80 pepper   plants, either in his garden or in his pots, and   I'm like,   alrighty then.   He was in a contest last year with some people from up in   New Hampshire area   just to see, you know, one of their plants, how many peppers they would get over   I think the contest was, like, five months long five or six months long.   And Dave got,   I think he said, like,   700   peppers   from one plant.  

[01:46:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Golly.  

[01:46:13] Duuude-Ron :

Second place   barely got   over 200.   But, of course, you know,   up in New Hampshire, hell, don't nothing fucking starts growing until about   July. August. Yeah.   Yep. And by that time, you already had   300.   So   but, yeah, they've they've let him end the contest,   but he's restricted   on   when he can start his count.   Basically, to, you know,   basically, to even the playing field.   Yep.   Yeah. This and, you know, it's it's not like he gets a, you know, a huge bowling trophy.   It's just   big of a it exactly. That's about it.   That's all it is.  

[01:47:13] Rich Chelson:

That's crazy.  

[01:47:16] Duuude-Ron :

So   and I asked him, I might. So based upon the number of plants you have,   what's the rough estimate of how many peppers you're gonna produce this season? He goes,   oh, probably over 10,000.   I'm like, damn. So he gives, he has a friend   of his that has a restaurant, a Mexican restaurant. So he'll take a crapload of peppers   over to him.  

[01:47:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[01:47:49] Duuude-Ron :

And his buddy will make salsa   out of it   and give him, you know, a good amount of salsa back of his peppers. And then he also uses them   at his restaurant.   But Dave was like, well, as long as I can get some salsa,   you can have as many peppers as you want.   Right. I can't   remember. I think it's   Dragon's Breath,   but he's making a couple of them, or he's planted a couple of plants that are   in the   millions   on the Scofield   level.  

[01:48:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:48:35] Duuude-Ron :

It's like, yeah.   I think Dragon's Breath is   1,100,000,   if I remember correctly, and I could be wrong. But,   you know,   I ain't eating that shit.   You talk about blowing flames.  

[01:48:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Well he with, man.  

[01:48:57] Rich Chelson:

Well, dude dude,   get all the peppers and   do a side hustle, man.   You could sell them.   Absolutely.   Especially down there in Texas. A lot of people buy them up.  

[01:49:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. I'm sure they do.  

[01:49:16] Rich Chelson:

So   so,   you know,   set you up a little stand at a little flea market   and sell your peppers.   And, oh my god,   you'd be rolling in the dough, dude.  

[01:49:30] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I'm sure.  

[01:49:32] Rich Chelson:

You know?  

[01:49:37] Duuude-Ron :

Or just go over to Dave's house and steal all his.  

[01:49:41] Rich Chelson:

Well,   you said   you said he   you could have   to have the rest after he was done. So, yeah,   just walk over and pick what you need.   You know?   Yeah. You know, give him $5 for for for, you know, growing them, but, you know  

[01:50:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, I understand.  

[01:50:10] Rich Chelson:

See, I got it figured out, dude.  

[01:50:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Like that. Give me $5 just for growing them. You know?   Right.  

[01:50:22] Rich Chelson:

I mean, come on now.   Yeah. At least at least at least $5, man. $5 is   yeah. That'd be good.  

[01:50:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yo.   And he wouldn't take the money. The only thing he wants to see from me   is eat one.   I'm like, yeah. No.   I'll be blowing flames and   yeah.   It'll come up through somebody else's toilet in the neighborhood.  

[01:50:52] Bryan Goodwin:

All of a sudden water starts boiling in the toilet.   What the hell's going on here? Goddamn, man.  

[01:50:59] Duuude-Ron :

And then a and then a four foot flame shoots up.  

[01:51:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   That'll send your hair off your ass at balls. Yeah.  

[01:51:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, there's a I had to go down to Buda on Monday,   and one of the associates there was showing me a video.   It was in North North Austin.   A house just   spontaneously   exploded.   I mean,   yeah, it exploded.   The the video was from a,   a door cam   of the neighbor,   and that shockwave,   Yeah.   You could see the damage in his,   you know, yard and so on like that when that house fucking exploded.   Oh,  

[01:51:56] Bryan Goodwin:

I bet. Yeah.   Yeah.  

[01:51:59] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I bet it was the hot water heater that exploded.  

[01:52:03] Duuude-Ron :

No. Well,   they said the gas was not   on   in the house. It was not   the service wasn't on.   They're thinking   that the homeowner was using propane for cooking,  

[01:52:19] Rich Chelson:

and   Oh, damn. Nobody  

[01:52:22] Duuude-Ron :

and nobody was in the house when it happened, but, yeah, that house just   ball of flames.  

[01:52:29] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm like, damn it. It was there, the next moment, it was gone.   Oh, yeah. David Copperfield.  

[01:52:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It was it was definitely gone. That's for sure.  

[01:52:42] Rich Chelson:

Apparently, they didn't make sure their, their propane valve was shut off.  

[01:52:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope. They did not use proper propane accessories.  

[01:52:52] Rich Chelson:

No.   Or proper propane   etiquette.   Propane etiquette. Propane accessories.   I love that show.  

[01:53:03] Duuude-Ron :

Always alright.  

[01:53:04] Rich Chelson:

That gas that gas built up, and as soon as that AC came on, kaboom. That was it.   It was naturally it was a naturally aspirated   house.  

[01:53:18] Duuude-Ron :

Right. To say it lightly.  

[01:53:20] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:53:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Aspirated   the place.  

[01:53:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. The house was,   you know, getting plenty of fresh air after that.   Hello? I'm a have I'm a have to look it up, but on   where the hell is that going?   Grand Prairie   on Tuesday   or it might have been Wednesday.   But I stopped at the rest stop just south of Hillsborough.   Uh-huh. When I looked at my rearview mirror and there was, like,   a fucking huge   cloud   of   of a black cloud.   I've yet to look it up, but something fucking exploded in Hillsborough.   Oh.   Yeah. That was a big burning cloud.  

[01:54:21] Rich Chelson:

Where a productive fire. That was probably an   that was probably an industrial   building  

[01:54:27] Duuude-Ron :

then. Oh, I'm sure it was.   But I had already passed Hillsborough,   when it happened. So and I look in the rearview mirror when I'm stopping. I'm like, what the fuck is that? So I get out,   you know, and I also have my smoke, but I was like, damn. That is a fucking huge ass   cloud.   Right. I'll have to I'll have to look it I'll have to look it up to see what the fuck happened.   But the only thing I could think of is Marvin the Martian  

[01:55:03] Bryan Goodwin:

with the earth kaboom.  

[01:55:06] Duuude-Ron :

The earth shattering   kaboom. Where is the earth shattering kaboom?  

[01:55:15] Bryan Goodwin:

With your plutonium p 38   space modulator?  

[01:55:20] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.   I haven't thought about Martian and Marvin in a long time.  

[01:55:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. He used to be my idol.  

[01:55:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. He was real popular. I mean, well, back when, Looney Tunes kinda made a resurgence back in the late eighties.   Yeah. Everybody had well, about the time that the Space Jam came out, yeah, everyone was all you saw everybody walking around with a Marvin the Martian T shirt.  

[01:55:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   I didn't have the T shirt. I had the keychain.  

[01:55:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay.  

[01:55:56] Duuude-Ron :

But still,  

[01:55:57] Bryan Goodwin:

it was pretty cool. Still got my Bugs Bunny, tie. That was most expensive tie I ever I ever bought. I saw   it was a,   Bugs Bunny and, I can't even remember what the girl's rabbit name name is.   Babs.   I think that's right. That may just be a Yeah. No. That's Buster Babs. That's, Babs is off of,   I can't remember what the,   what   the girl rabbit's name is. But anyhow, it's,   it's,   it's a, it's   bugs and the girl rabbit, and they're they're   they're basically dancing,   on the tie, and it's it's it was just neat looking ties.   Spent $50 back in, like,   1990.  

Wow. I still got the damn thing. I love that tie.   I'll wear I'll wear it from time to time just because nowadays,   those types of ties aren't, you know,   aren't, aren't really in style that much anymore. So   but, the times that I can get I can get away with wearing a purple tie, I'll I'll wear it.   A purple tie. There you go. Yeah. It's it's got it's a purple back background, and it's a pretty color purple.  

[01:57:17] Rich Chelson:

Which Oh, god.   Which movie are you talking about?  

[01:57:21] Bryan Goodwin:

It's not a movie. It's   not are you talking about, like, Space Jam?  

[01:57:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I don't know. I ain't never seen Space Jam. I don't Oh, you're not that's when  

[01:57:30] Bryan Goodwin:

the   Looney Tunes takes on the, NBA. It has, Michael Jordan and some of the other.  

[01:57:37] Rich Chelson:

Oh, if I've watched, it's been  

[01:57:39] Bryan Goodwin:

probably It's been back back in the nineteen nineties.  

[01:57:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. It's I haven't watched it since, I don't think. I mean, I I remember it vaguely, but is that the movie you're talking about?  

[01:57:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's the movie that, yeah, that that kinda launched   a a resurgent into, into Looney Tunes. Yeah. That everybody was like, oh, yeah. You started seeing Marvin the Martian and Bugs Bunny and and,   Gossamer,   you know,   which is the big hairy monster.  

[01:58:13] Duuude-Ron :

Is that okay. Is that his name? I didn't I've never known His name's Gossamer.   Okay.  

[01:58:21] Bryan Goodwin:

So  

[01:58:24] Rich Chelson:

You're looking for the   the girl's name that,   with the girl rabbit?  

[01:58:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah, there's a girl rabbit.  

[01:58:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It was you said her name. It was Babs.  

[01:58:38] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't know. I don't think it's I don't think Babs is off of,   off of Animator. Office  

[01:58:44] Duuude-Ron :

well, that's off of Space Jam.   That was her name in Space Jam. The female rabbit was Babs.  

[01:58:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Lola   Bunny.   That's her name.  

[01:58:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:58:57] Rich Chelson:

Who is it? Lola?   Lola.  

[01:59:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Hello. Lola. Space Jam. Which is really funny that that's what they the they named her Lola.   The Lola Bunny. Because I hear Lola, and I think   of of, of the, the Transvestite   song.  

[01:59:17] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. That's nice.   Yeah. You are. Yeah.   Yeah. The trans  

[01:59:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Transylvania.   Yeah. Colon.  

[01:59:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Clapton. Okay. Okay.   I can't service thing.   Yeah. It's been a yeah.   Yeah. It's yeah. It's been a day or two since I heard that song.  

[01:59:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Weird Al did the, did the,   the parody of it,   Yoda.   Right.  

[01:59:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I forgot all about that one.  

[02:00:08] Bryan Goodwin:

So,   yeah, there's   a that was a yeah. I I   never remember what her name was, but, yeah, I don't know how I could forgot I forget it with it being Lolo   things.  

[02:00:26] Duuude-Ron :

Chinese   cellular.  

[02:00:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I was gonna say, I I think I think I think, Brian is, is, taking turns with dude now.  

[02:00:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Probably.   So I'm over here in McAllister   and   but once, once all the trucks start coming into play and all the truckers start watching their porn, they eat up all the bandwidth.  

[02:00:49] Rich Chelson:

So Okay. Yeah. Because you I can buy that.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was doing real fine there and then and then yeah. Just in the last Yeah. Couple minutes. Oh, yeah. It's like not as bad as dude. We ain't lost you yet, but, you know, it's it's it's working on it. It's trying.  

[02:01:10] Bryan Goodwin:

So  

[02:01:12] Rich Chelson:

Oh, dude. I I almost almost forgot this. I was I was thinking about it, and I got I got I squirreled.   So, dude,   what's your tip of the week?  

[02:01:23] Bryan Goodwin:

It's 09:00 already? It is. Holy  

[02:01:28] Duuude-Ron :

shit.   Damn.   And I had and I had one yesterday, and I fucking forgot what it was.  

[02:01:36] Rich Chelson:

Because you didn't have that. Down. I caught you in that quote in, dude.  

[02:01:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're right. I did not write it down this time.   So   I think I think we're gonna have to  

[02:01:51] Rich Chelson:

you know what? You gotta pay for something, dude. Come on now.   I look forward to these, man.  

[02:02:02] Bryan Goodwin:

You can pick a friend's nose. You can pick your nose.   Or you   but you can you can pick   pick your friends. You can pick your nose. You but you can't pick your friend's nose. There you go.  

[02:02:14] Duuude-Ron :

There you go. That's true.   Oh, damn. What kind of tips?   You know what? You guys talk, and I'll and I'll, I'll get one figured out.  

[02:02:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Let me let me let me think about it for a moment.  

[02:02:30] Rich Chelson:

Like, oh, shit. It's 09:00 at night. My brain ain't fucking working, man. Well, I'm ready for it. I wasn't prepared.  

[02:02:36] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I was last night, but not tonight.  

[02:02:40] Rich Chelson:

But, see,   last night was Wednesday.   This is Thursday.  

[02:02:46] Duuude-Ron :

I know it I and I was a day ahead this time,   but I never forgot what and now it just, poof, gone.  

[02:02:56] Bryan Goodwin:

You're a day behind now. Like a fart in the wind.  

[02:02:59] Duuude-Ron :

Like a fart in the wind. Every bit of a fart in the wind.  

[02:03:04] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shit.   That's funny.   That's funny. I don't care who he is.   So   so dude is   constipating   over there.  

[02:03:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:03:20] Rich Chelson:

Trying to come up with something.   So you said you start   at the end of the month?  

[02:03:28] Bryan Goodwin:

I start the   twenty   eighth.  

[02:03:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. Yeah.  

[02:03:37] Bryan Goodwin:

So But   alright. Here's something we can talk about a little bit   because   Though I am gonna be doing this,   and I am gonna still   put some put some,   more stuff out for relaxed amount.   I'm beginning to kinda wonder if maybe the relaxed mail has come to its end.   And I'm not a % sure if it has or hasn't or if maybe I'm just at a point where I'm like, alright. Step back. Let's breathe a little bit because all of a sudden,   I took   if I take the the pressure of let's get this thing going   off my shoulders, all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, this ain't half bad.  

[02:04:27] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. And and I understand what you're saying. Let me ask you this.   Why does it have to end? Why can't you just pause for the cause?  

[02:04:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Well and that's kinda what I'm looking at. Is this,   because I don't have a problem with   I still think I would be be I could still actually, I see   being able to still have plenty of time   with with the, the current schedule that I'm looking at,   being able to put in   time to   write a, blog post, do a,   do a,   a podcast episode   Mhmm. And even   going ahead, and I've been working on the forum idea that I passed around a couple of, couple three weeks ago  

[02:05:14] Rich Chelson:

just to see, you know Would you would you reenlighten me again on that? Well, just making it a a just a place, a men's group,  

[02:05:24] Bryan Goodwin:

basically.   Mhmm. Since I'm not gonna be able to do, do,   do a, do an audit do a phone call, a Zoom meeting of of a men's group.   Right. Make a   a community   for men   to come in   and to talk amongst themselves   about, you know, about whatever happens to be   bothering at the time. I'm gonna have a,   subform that's about the four pillars,   subform about,   about relationships,   a subform about,   probably about,   leadership.   You know? Kinda this is kind of the path that I'm I'm thinking of.  

[02:06:15] Rich Chelson:

Right. And,  

[02:06:17] Bryan Goodwin:

basically start off with having   just   if you wanna join in, you can join in. You can come in. I'll   the the only thing that you're gonna wanna know is that, if you join, I'm gonna take your email address, stick you into my email,   into my email,   email system.   So,   but, but, anyhow, it's just it's, it's just   a form for, for people to come on. It helps generate more,   more content   because people will be able to have discussions amongst themselves.   It   allows for people to   have more freedom of discussion   because they won't be with be held up by the restrictions   of   of Facebook.  

They can,   they can actually have their own,   you know, they wanna sit there and   bitch about,   somebody.   They can bitch about somebody. You know? And I get to make the choice of, dude, you're gone too far. You know? You're out of here. You're you're doing nothing but bitching about women. You're making them bitching about stuff and not trying to fix the problem.   Right.   You know, I could   I can make the, make the choice. You I can make the the choices to, you know, whether they're gonna be there or not. Most of the time, I understand. It's gonna just gonna be a guy who is absolutely at his within, and he's just trying to trying to vent and   stuff like that. But Right. Right. No. No.  



[02:07:59] Rich Chelson:

Okay. I I understand what you're saying there.   Now,   have you had indications   as to   if if that would work?  

[02:08:10] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm just asking. I don't know. I'm not I mean, in all reality, no. I've got one guy that's interested   in   in,   in having a joining into a men's group   and and stuff. But, again,   he's he kinda showed interest in it, and it's just a little late in the game now. So I've already I'm   in one the wife is very much expecting the,   the health care to start up. So  

[02:08:40] Duuude-Ron :

okay.  

[02:08:43] Bryan Goodwin:

So   and stuff. Not to mention one guy.   Use well, I get one,   two guys a a year who are interested, but, I haven't been able to really get a big,   you know, run   of   of   like, of people wanting to join in. Of course, I haven't really pushed the, the the men's group all that much. So Right.  

[02:09:17] Rich Chelson:

Now is But is is there is there any, special reason why you haven't pushed it all that much or anything?  

[02:09:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Wanting to start with the   with just one on one coaching.   That way I have a better idea   of of what   the majority of the men are actually facing so I could actually come up with a a good solution.   Because way most people   most of the the coaching   coaches,   and coaching and business coaches recommend,   and it makes sense to me,   is,   start with one on one coaching. One, you under you get to develop your your messaging   and marketing a lot better because you start hearing   the similarities between all the one   on one guys that you're talking to.   Right. But, also,   you when you,   you get your coaching going   yeah. One on one coaching going, when that fills up,   then you can start doing an overflow   into   group.  

So then you're able to do you you start growing your your group coaching   because they're the folks who really like to do the coaching. They just don't   they just don't have the money for   the one on one coaching.   And so you got enough momentum now that you could actually do the do the group coaching.   The issue that I've run into, though, here recently   is the,   is that I've kind of realized, you know, it's, it's really freaking hard to   sell   something that   is   as   not ethereal.   No. Not igno it's an a word I'm looking for.   There is not contemporary   art.  

Shit. What is the word? It is.   Anyhow, it's an idea.   Alright? To sell an idea   and not a physical product   because it's kind of the the issue that I'm running into.  

[02:11:40] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   So   Let's see. I   now I might be wrong, but, you know, I would think, you know, if you got four or five guys together   and and and everyone was talking all like that   and he was listening to   what they were saying.   You could pick and choose   what   what what would work for the group or for, you know, a couple individuals and then just Right. And then just ask ask the men in the group, you know, if they would be interested   in   doing something along those lines.  

[02:12:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. I get I get that. That's just that's just  

[02:12:22] Rich Chelson:

what was what was popping into my head. Yeah. You know? I mean, I'm I'm, you know, I'm not saying I'm not saying the coaches are wrong because they're the ones doing it, you know, and making money at it. But,  

[02:12:34] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, for But at the same time, I I've I've kinda with you on that. It's like, alright. Well, start on the easier   or not the easier because I found trying to sell free is fucking near impossible too.   So, you know, to to sell   a,   like I said, trying to sell an idea   to   guys who   would rather I mean and it's no dig against this man because we this this is just how we're built.   Because, I mean, I think a lot of men actually see coaching as therapy.  

[02:13:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:13:12] Bryan Goodwin:

And it's not by any stretch of the imagination. There is a results   oriented,   goal   that is at the end of the of the coaching session.   While therapy is just kind of   well, how are you feeling today? Well, I feel like shit. Alright. Well, you felt like shit last time. What you may what is there anything changed? No. Nothing's changed. Well, why did you not you know? You're just kinda talking around in circles   Yeah. And stuff, and there's no real   results driven goal.   Right.   Unlike unlike coaching where when you're being coached, you're you know, what are you wanting out of out of this sesh out of this, meeting? Well, I wanna have a better relationship with my wife. Alright? Well, we can we can figure out how to get to that. So how do we do that? And we start hammering things out, and we are able to get to there.   But what I'm kind of thinking of doing besides for   relaxed mail, and this has always been a   almost a sign of a death knell anytime I've seen anybody else do this. And the times that I've tried doing this, I'm really thinking of coming up with a   another site.  

K.   And that other site is actually   me,   I'm gonna say take advantage, but it's not like I am, you know, jipping people out of stuff. But   with Europe   going   stupid like they are. I mean, they're the Finland government has already warned the Fins that   get ready. You better start getting your bug out bags and every and start preparing because we're fixing to go to war.   And so they got everybody all worked up and try then people trying to figure out,   what, to do on prepping. But you've I've seen the,   the trends and stuff has shown that prepping has gone up a a bit over in the European area.   Mhmm. And now granted, I am no   prepping expert by any any   stretch of the imagination.  

Right.   But I'm thinking of   going at the angle of   I am an idiot when it comes to prepping.   And as I learn,   document the learning   and bring people along with it.   And in doing so,   I can   come to understand what a what a bug out bag really needs to have   and help explain to people what a bug out bag is,   what they need in a bug out bag, what are the essential   philosophies around a   bug out bag. Because the few people that I've talked to about bug out bags, it's, you know, they've got their each person's it's like,   you know,   having a,   having a stoic   and a,   son of a best brain. Come on. Work for me today.  

Oh, someone who's just living in the moment.  

[02:16:40] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Bugout bags, basically, people think of just of what they need, and and every bugout bag is different. Yeah. Every bugout bag is different, but and the people that go on the block, the other is  

[02:16:54] Bryan Goodwin:

have all the all the,   all your essentials. And then other people who are like, no. You wanna have as few as essentials, but have the most widest range of usage   Mhmm. Because weight is important. It's like, okay. We get that. But, you know and so there is a I've seen people have large   just in the short time within the last couple weeks   of people who are still,   You know? It's almost like, well, what, what microphone?  

[02:17:21] Rich Chelson:

And someone mentions, oh, you wanna use the blue snowball  

[02:17:25] Bryan Goodwin:

and watch people on podcast,   forums go, oh my god. No.  

[02:17:34] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. Exactly. You're right.   You know, people just   they just sow shit in a bag and say, okay. I'm good. And then,   you know, well, most people never bug out. But if you ever use your bug out bag, you're gonna find out you're you're severely lacking   in a lot of things  

[02:17:59] Bryan Goodwin:

because you Heedness. That's the damn word I'm thinking of.   You know? The direct opposite of a, of a, of a stoic is a hedonist,   and that's just the completely opposite,   philosophy about life. And so, yeah, it just finally   ding.   So   Ding. Lights are on. The lights came on. So yeah. Yeah. My brain's just being slow. But, anyhow   and so I'm kinda really   thinking of, you know, doing this, doing this prepping   thing.   And I know I could probably get, like,   Josh involved,   our friend Josh, because he wanted to for a while, he was always talking about doing the off the grid stuff.   Mhmm. Which, I mean, is a completely different level. So I've I've kinda been looking thinking through this and I'm thinking of well, there's three or   actually, I've come up to about five   different levels of prepping.  

You have your base,   and that is   just your,   you know, just getting the basics down. You you know, have a have a couple weeks worth of food, couple weeks, couple weeks worth of water for for everybody.   And, you know, make sure you have plenty of batteries, that type of stuff. You know, you got your you got your beginner,   your light,   level one stuff. Your level two is getting the bug out bag, getting, you know,   personal protection, getting things like that all set up, and all the way up to level five where your billows in a a fallout bunker and, you know,   and you're talking up for ten years. And and how do you clean the water and and sanitize the water and reuse the water after it's been so you don't waste anything. And and so get to those, you know, the the   the extreme   style I've got of folks like that. So  

[02:20:01] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.   Yeah. No. It it   try it,   man. I mean, what's  

[02:20:13] Bryan Goodwin:

what's it gonna do? Yeah. About the only thing I could think of that it does is it draws my attention away from relaxed wheel.  

[02:20:22] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean,   not really.   Not unless you let it. Right.   You can still do relaxed mail.   You know? Just,   you know, you   you can do both.   Just,   you know,   separate your time.   You know? Time Right.   And   you should be fine with it.   But,   you know, this way here also,   while you're doing the bug out bag, you could also be plugging the relax mail.   Yeah.   You know?   Because   a lot of people would see it, and their their mindset will be all fuckered up because they're like, oh my god.   I gotta worry about bugging out. I gotta get this. I gotta get that, and they're all fuckered up. And,   you know, that's when the relaxed male comes in. It's like, dude, who's   hot?  

It's not that bad.   You know?   Right.   Two   till you get a, you know, millennial or a Gen Alpha or whatnot that just   just does not know how to handle life, period.   You know?  

[02:21:39] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:21:40] Rich Chelson:

You know? I I just I don't know.   I like the idea myself.   But the way I look at it, I ain't doing no bug out bag. Y'all want me up 1210 Bel Air Street, Pascagoula. Come   I don't care.  

[02:21:59] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm not bugging out. I got I got food in my house. I'm sorry. Too much damn money on this. I have to be bugging out. Right. Fuck that. Now But see and, like, the and one of the other things that got my attention was the guy   over in   oh, where where is it that they had all that flooding here recently? Is that Tennessee?   That was North Carolina, wasn't it? No. No. No. Carolina got hit with the hurricane, but, no, here   very recently.   Either like, Louis was it Louisiana? There's someplace   someplace in there's a lot of flatland,   but a guy went off and levied   his house, put a levy up around his house. And all the other land is, is, is Oh, yeah. That was That was Except for this one new house, and he's been known to do this. His this levy's been there,   this   last several times, and it's flooded.  

This dude just the hit his family. He's got a little big ass fucking house, but he's just yeah. Always just   parked it up, and and it everything everybody else gets flooded out except for him, and he's still sitting high and dry.   Right. And everyone's like, how do you do that? I was like, well, he prepares. That's   a sign of, you know, of prepping.   You know? That's that is the epitome of what prepping is about.   So  

[02:23:19] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, now you see that's the thing. People,   here in The US,   especially the liberals, have made it a bad thing.  

[02:23:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, they they scoffed it. Yeah. The the preps and preppers. And granted at the same time, there's a lot of preppers who just I'm sorry, but they   I get why and this is might be something that, you know, this is a an angle or at least a   a blog post that I wanted to I definitely wanna,   attack is   that so many guys   get drunk   on the sense   of independence   that they get from when they start doing the prepping.   Right. Because all of a sudden, they're going, oh, well, hey. I got two weeks of water for everybody. I've got enough canned foods, and and and,   I've got my own meat stuffed way back in a in a,   in the in the, the the the freezer. I mean, we're we're set good, and that   that it feel kinda nice to be,   to be that far you know, to be that independent.  

Mhmm. And so a lot of guys will actually go and was like, well, what else can I do to make sure I'm even more independent? You know? And how do I   how do I maintain my sovereignty   through all this? And so they get you know, all of a sudden, they're they're figuring out how well, how do I make my own nuclear reactor and shit? So I don't even have to be on the grid no more. I can be off the grid, and I can power my neighbors if they need it. And and, you know, and all of a sudden, you get the people who get, arrested because there is a crisis,   and they get busted for government comes in and arrest them because they're quote, unquote hoarding food because they're the only ones who actually took the time to actually say even set satisfy the food. So, you know, you got all of a sudden you got guys, well, we gotta build a a safe room for the for the food that's off in the middle of the back 40, and   so you can get crazy with it. You can get absolutely insane.  



[02:25:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You can. You can. You can get very insane with it. And that's that's where, again, the relaxed meal could come in and,   you know,  

[02:25:36] Bryan Goodwin:

t Breeze it, man. Breeze.  

[02:25:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You don't need   you don't need 500 fucking gallons of   of, you know, oats.   You're good.   You know? You're good with 20 or 30. It's gonna last you quite a fucking while.  

[02:25:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's a lot of you'll get sick of oats if you got   Right.   I've I've got a I've got a, I've got a 2,000 bushel,   the silo full of votes. I'm I'm I'll it'll last me a good little while. It's like, yeah, you're gonna last you longer than that. It'll actually start rotting before you get finished with it. Right. Better learn how to start turning green.  

[02:26:16] Rich Chelson:

Better learn how to share and give it to people. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[02:26:21] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? I think most people do. They just the issue that I mean, most well, as a most humans, they have no problem sharing.   Just don't force them to share.   Right. All of a sudden, the government's come along going, yeah, we hear you've got   you've got plenty of food. You need to start sharing people. They're gonna go, fuck you, man.   I've been giving it to those around me that are nice. Sorry. But, but the the Snyder's up the street, they're   a bunch of fucking dickheads. Hell no. I'm not sharing with them. They should have been nicer.   You know? And all of a sudden, no. You're going to jail because you got food, and you're not sharing it with everybody.  



[02:27:02] Rich Chelson:

Well yeah. And that's sadly,   Some of these states will do shell like that.  

[02:27:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:27:10] Rich Chelson:

A lot of states will. Your shit. They're gonna yeah.   It's sad.   So   but yeah. No. No. I agree.   I   I kinda like your,   thought on that, dude.  

[02:27:32] Bryan Goodwin:

So but but then I I mean   and if I really let myself go, all of a sudden, I can kinda dip back into what the original relaxed mail was about.   And, I've got a like I said, I've got a couple of friend I've got a couple of friends that that are   into prepping   and hell. Well, that's something. Are Rich, are you what would it take for you to become a ham radio   instructor?   What would you  

[02:28:07] Rich Chelson:

need?   Just to start teaching people.  

[02:28:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, so you'd be able to start teaching now?  

[02:28:13] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Okay. Because there you see you see, that's the thing with hands.   Dude, I there there are no   certain instructors.   There's,  

[02:28:24] Bryan Goodwin:

I didn't know I didn't know if you needed to have some type of certification   to No. No. No. No. No. No. See, there you go. I mean, that could be definitely something that's I wanna be able to draw   most of my friends who do some type of of skill like that. I mean, hell, we could take take the dude, and he could become a Jeep instructor.   You know? How do you actually drive you know, go off roading and and,   you know, get, get g get, get the dude to become a, a Jeep coach.   And, and he'd start teaching you how you drive, and, you know, he could start he could slam his hat down and go, goddamn it. You ain't fucking listening to me. You go up as in a fucking angle. Look what you're doing now. You're fixing to tip your ass over. You know, we could have you know, we could sit there and watch him rip into people in my path at the same time. So Oh, yeah, man. It'd be a lot hilarious great. Watching   watching Dean's blood pressure go to a hundred 202   over over a over a thousand. So  

[02:29:27] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:29:29] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. No. You don't think that you don't think that ain't already happened?  

[02:29:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I I know it's probably a big difference. Talking about doing it on a regular basis, dude. Yeah. On a regular basis. And you actually go off and make a couple thousand dollars off of it.   That shut him up, didn't he?  

[02:29:55] Rich Chelson:

Dude's thinking. He's like, hey now.  

[02:29:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. That's possible? Yeah. I think it's all I think all of it's possible.  

[02:30:03] Rich Chelson:

The thing is with   the the thing is with me, Brian, if if, I taught him radio, I could not be paid for it.   You can't?   No.   Why?   No.   That is against part 97 rules.  

[02:30:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh.  

[02:30:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   There is no way around that. The the only   way   a person   can make money from teaching ham radio   is if they are a teacher in a school   and they talk about ham radio   in class. They are already being paid by the school   as   teaching, and that's their job.  

[02:30:46] Bryan Goodwin:

They can talk about ham radio and get paid for it, but that is Oh, so so you I you could kinda in a way be an employee of mine.  

[02:30:56] Rich Chelson:

No. I still couldn't do it. No.   Because I'm not a licensed   teacher,   and you're not a licensed   school.  

[02:31:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Fuck. Government's gotta screw everything up. Right?  

[02:31:12] Rich Chelson:

So yeah. No. I mean and and   that's the thing. Teaching ham radio, I wouldn't charge anybody anyway.   You know?   But,   you know, because it's it's a hobby.   You know?  

[02:31:27] Bryan Goodwin:

And then Well, there you go. You get them all hooked up on the on the, on the ham radio, and you sell the radios.  

[02:31:38] Duuude-Ron :

Or the instructions on how to build the  

[02:31:42] Bryan Goodwin:

antenna. Yeah. No. I mean, make make the plans on on the different styles of antennas.   You sell the equipment for the antenna or the materials for the antennas.  

[02:31:53] Rich Chelson:

Now that yeah.   You know   You know, selling, you know, parts to make antennas and shit like that and selling radios, yeah, I could do that. But the actual teaching   of amateur radio and stuff like that, no.   Couldn't get paid for it.   Which, I mean, that's fine. It doesn't bother me.  

[02:32:16] Bryan Goodwin:

No. It's not fine. You're you're gonna make multimillions too.   Gotta figure it out.  

[02:32:22] Rich Chelson:

Dude. I'm yeah. You see, that's the thing. It's it's,   I mean, I mean, when it comes   when it comes to   amateur radio, yeah, I'm fine with it.   I'll I'll freaking talk to anybody.  

[02:32:38] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't Well, I know you'll talk to anybody.   You know what I mean. Oh, no. I know I know exactly what you mean, but I I but that's just it. It's like, yeah. Well,   let's let's make this make this passion of yours a a profitable passion.  

[02:32:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Can't do it.  

[02:32:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, there's where there's a will, there's a way.  

[02:32:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. As far as as far as the rules go yeah.   Yeah. If I,   you know, sold radios and and   antenna parts and shell like that and had a store and all like that, I made my money that way   and had to,   like, you know, the teaching of ham radio   was free and everything like that, then   yeah. But I would I would have to have my own store   and and sold actual product, and that would have to be   my main,   income.  

[02:33:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And that's kinda what I'm wanting to do, like, with John. I'm wanting to incorporate him in. He does a lot of metal work, a lot of, blacksmithing.   So,   you know,   have him go off and   forge and make, like, arrowheads and spearheads   and   and bunch of other types of, of   of metalwork.   Right. And set it up on on there so that anytime he you know, somebody wants a wants to buy a dozen arrowheads. Okay. Well, then, you know, get some official   on Winger, Arrowheads right here. Carpenter's razor guaranteed to shave the ass off of off of a, a deer at 200 yards, and and, away we go. You know? Right. And, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's fine. That'd be cool.  

[02:34:30] Rich Chelson:

So?   But, yeah, it's it's it's a no go with ham radio, dude.  

[02:34:36] Bryan Goodwin:

But it's not tell you. I'm gonna have to have a talk with the government.  

[02:34:40] Rich Chelson:

You go ahead.  

[02:34:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Let me know how that works. Mister Trump, you need to start letting the ham radio operators make some money.  

[02:34:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's yeah. That   that rule's been in place,  

[02:34:54] Bryan Goodwin:

yeah, obviously.   The time it became it it they were ham radio was first created. So Yeah. It  

[02:35:01] Rich Chelson:

was. Yeah. The,   the, the Federal Radio Commission   was the first. It wasn't the FCC yet. It was the, Federal Radio Commission.   And then it got changed to the Federal Communications   Commission.   So  

[02:35:25] Duuude-Ron :

So yeah. So what was   so what was d o   k. So you know what DOT stands for. Right? Yeah. Department of Transportation.   What did it what  

[02:35:38] Rich Chelson:

You would say if you asked that fucking question, didn't you?   God.  

[02:35:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Before? I would.   What what was it beforehand?   Oh, fuck.  

[02:35:49] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it's printing on every   high   There  

[02:35:56] Rich Chelson:

that was the   before   December   1976.   Say that again, dude. You you broke up.  

[02:36:11] Bryan Goodwin:

It was printed on something.  

[02:36:14] Duuude-Ron :

On high pressure cylinders.  

[02:36:19] Rich Chelson:

I I I I used to know it, and I can't think of it right now.  

[02:36:24] Duuude-Ron :

ICC.  

[02:36:25] Rich Chelson:

ICC.   Yeah.   State. Commerce Commission.  

[02:36:29] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. Yep.  

[02:36:31] Rich Chelson:

And that and that and that DOT bumper on the trailer   was actually originally called the ICC bar.  

[02:36:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Actually, it's you   know, why they why they put that on there. Right?  

[02:36:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So dumbasses would drive up under your trailer. No. Well, no. But but who  

[02:36:50] Bryan Goodwin:

ended up driving up underneath the trailer that caused that DOT bar to be put in?  

[02:36:56] Duuude-Ron :

And that's the name and that's the name of that bar.  

[02:37:03] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I don't know.  

[02:37:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Let's see here.  

[02:37:07] Duuude-Ron :

Manson?  

[02:37:08] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. Not Manson. No.   Oh, what the hell is her name? She was an actress. But, yeah, there's an actress. I got as soon as I said, it's like, oh, shit. What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? What's your name?   So, dear,  

[02:37:24] Rich Chelson:

Trevor was   lamented   because of   what   actress?   I knew it as the ICC bar for years.   And then  

[02:37:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Jane Mansfield.  

[02:37:37] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. Mansfield. The Mansfield bumper.  

[02:37:40] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Oh. Yeah. I as first okay. I learned something new then.  

[02:37:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:37:46] Rich Chelson:

Because I I didn't know anything about that.  

[02:37:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Jane Mansfield, that's how she died. She ran up underneath the,   underneath the, semi trailer, knocked her head off.  

[02:37:57] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Yeah.  

[02:38:00] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. And they and they call those, and that's the name of them as Mansfield bumpers.  

[02:38:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I had never heard of that.  

[02:38:08] Duuude-Ron :

Seriously. You know what I and I was just   that particular piece of information   came up on a show that I like to watch that's called Forgotten History on the History Channel.  

[02:38:21] Rich Chelson:

Right. Okay.  

[02:38:23] Duuude-Ron :

And   there was   a piece about a week ago that I saw   that pertained   to   that the ICC bar   and why it came about because of Jane Mansfield.   I thought that was pretty neat, and then we were talking about it today.  

[02:38:47] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:38:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   So   alright. So the tip of the day, and I know it's a little bit late.   So   if tomorrow   is slap   a fucking idiot day.   Ensure you start your day out with at least two energy drinks   and one cup of coffee.  

[02:39:19] Rich Chelson:

Oh my gosh.   Dude.  

[02:39:22] Bryan Goodwin:

I would definitely say definitely need the two energy drinks.  

[02:39:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.   Because there are a lot of fucking idiots out there. Oh, yeah.  

[02:39:36] Rich Chelson:

I'm glad I stay home.  

[02:39:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I unfortunately,  

[02:39:43] Duuude-Ron :

the bill man cometh, so   I get to get up and   go to work, drive,   come home,   get up the next day, rinse and repeat.   So we're and they're so   you know?   What's the word I'm looking for? It's just   just the the exciting thing in life,   getting up, going to work.  

[02:40:17] Rich Chelson:

Will you get out?  

[02:40:20] Duuude-Ron :

That's true.  

[02:40:23] Rich Chelson:

I mean, yeah, I could I I don't know. I might it it depends on how I feel. I might I might owe them tomorrow. I don't know.   You might what tomorrow?   PODO.   Go go play ham radio in a park.  

[02:40:39] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, gotcha. Okay.  

[02:40:42] Rich Chelson:

I might I might go do that depending on how I feel in the  

[02:40:51] Duuude-Ron :

morning. Well, I think you should just make that as your goal, period.  

[02:40:56] Rich Chelson:

Absolutely.  

[02:40:57] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that was in the morning.   When you get up in the morning, it's like, you know what?   I will be going playing in the park with the ham radio.  

[02:41:08] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, that was my goal this morning, but, yeah, I didn't make it.   And it's   and I got till Sunday, and it was supposed to start raining on Sunday.   Now earlier this week, they were saying we're supposed to get another two inches. Now it's down to an inch and a quarter.   So   just have to wait and see when it comes to how much   rain they're forecasting in because it's supposed to rain starting Sunday and not stop till, like,   Wednesday.   Oh, really?   Yeah.   But it's it's, it's   it's not a big chance, but it's it's about 50%.   And,   it's, like, supposed to rain a a quarter inch a day.  

So I don't know.  

[02:41:57] Duuude-Ron :

Well, we're predicted 80% chance on Sunday.  

[02:42:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. We're  

[02:42:06] Bryan Goodwin:

I've been watching it. Looked at the damn weather.  

[02:42:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See, I've been I've been watching it because, you know, it's been   shit. It's been in the mid seventies and stuff like this, and it's like, shit. I'll go I'll go run-in POTA.   You know?   Play some AM radio in the park.  

[02:42:24] Bryan Goodwin:

But You came in.  

[02:42:27] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. No. No. I'll do it as as long as as long as when I wake up, I can function  

[02:42:34] Bryan Goodwin:

in a family short amount of time. Put a big old fucking hinky in my damn damn mowing plants for the this weekend.   Why is it always gonna rain on the weekends?  

[02:42:49] Duuude-Ron :

You're right. Especially, you know, if if it's some predictions   of Lubbock, you probably get snow where you're at.  

[02:42:59] Bryan Goodwin:

No.   No. They're they're saying rain. It's just   they're just saying it's supposed to be 50% chance of rain, which means that, it's half my yard's gonna be wet.  

[02:43:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I know. So   But the but the question is overall is gonna be   which 50%  

[02:43:21] Bryan Goodwin:

is gonna get wet. 50% that I've already mowed or the 50% that needs still needs to be mowed? That's exactly right.  

[02:43:29] Duuude-Ron :

Or is it the,   I I saw a video one time of,   it was a pretty good pretty good sized automotive shop,   and they had the,   big bay doors open.   You look to the right,   nice and clear. You look to the left, it is fucking   down pouring   rain.   Yeah. You look to the right, nothing. Look to the left again, it's still down pouring rain.   I'm like, wow.   You just gotta love, yo. Right there on that very edge of the of the storm. Yep. Right there on the on  

[02:44:09] Bryan Goodwin:

the on the lip of the, of of the squall.  

[02:44:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   And then somebody was able to videotape it and was like, wow.   Yep.   Oh, so it's gonna be about that time.  

[02:44:31] Bryan Goodwin:

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[02:50:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. I had I had forward that email to you.  

[02:50:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:50:16] Rich Chelson:

This guy, Andy Campbell, I guess, he thought my name was Rachel.  

[02:50:21] Bryan Goodwin:

And, Yeah. I think he was wondering if you're saying Rachel or maybe it just automatically updated on as to Rachel  

[02:50:28] Rich Chelson:

or something. But yeah. Yeah. I don't know.   And and   he's   he was he was wanting to come on our show and talk about his life's journey and, you know, what what he's,   dealt with and all like this and Right. And and everything. And   I I was just like,   really? Yeah. Okay, dude. And then,   he, and then well, I I forwarded that to you,   then he sent another one.   Oh, did he? Okay. Yeah. And a follow-up. He's like, well well, I was just circling back around just in case my other email blah blah blah. You know? And I I was just like, no, dude. I fucking ignored it because Yeah. We're not we're not gonna have this our show,  

[02:51:18] Bryan Goodwin:

we're not gonna have guests. Oh, yeah. No. Exactly. Very rarely, we will ever have a guest. And if it's a guest,  

[02:51:24] Rich Chelson:

it's somebody that all three of us know and is within our inner circle. But and, again, that's just a very rare thing. So Yeah. But, yeah, this guy this guy was willing to come on and and and talk about, you know, everything he does and and his journey and all all like this. And and, again, the second email   said, hi. Hey, Rachel.   I'm like and I said, okay. That's it. I'm gonna end this shit right now.   I fucking hit reply. I said, first off, my name is Richard.   Second off, if you had listened   to   two grumpy vets,   you would know this is not an interview style podcast.  

You know? I mean, because he was saying, oh, I I've I've listened to what Brian has said and blah blah blah. Really?   Really? You have.   Because   no. You don't.   You don't. You didn't listen.   And, I mean, I was nice. I was cordial, but I was firm.   Very firm. Yeah. And and I just I told him, I said to kick rocks, man.   Blow chunks. I don't care what you do.   Get. You know?   It's like, no. We're not because that's the thing. You know? You know, we do that and, I mean, no telling what this I mean, the guy kinda outlined in his email, but it was it was all about,   you know, his own personal journey and everything like this. And I'm thinking,   dude?  

Yep. What you selling, man? I don't know who you're talking to here. You've got three fucking vets.   Now I don't know if you're a vet or not. You might be. You might not be. I don't know.   But   your personal journey, we could probably make you fucking cry, dude.   So, yeah, I just yeah. That that, that, that,   second email come through,   and I was like, yeah. No.   I was out.   So, yeah, I I didn't even forward the same one to you because I was pissed at the fact that,  

[02:53:33] Bryan Goodwin:

So if you're gonna shoot us an email,   Richard   or Rich.   Thank you. Do the if you're in the whole nonbrevity thing, Richard.   It's not Rachel.   Exactly. It's not Rachel. Now that that gets me thinking we need to go through all 50 plus episodes that we have   and,   and see if somewhere in there,   either the show notes or the or AI went off and did the, did the transcription   and and threw Rachel   in as your as your name someplace.  

[02:54:09] Rich Chelson:

Well, see, the thing is,   on the on the,   front page show notes, I always make sure your name, my name, and dude's name, and dude is spelled right. You know, I go through all things. Used.   Yeah. Yeah. I go I go through and change that every week. Okay? Now now through the body of the,   you know, the the actual show, no. I don't because that would take for fucking ever. But, you know, still, the thing is, though, you would think if the man had listened   to our show,   You see, what what I honestly think it was, he was using AI.   Oh, there's a good chance of it. Yeah. Because AI would have gotten that wrong. And besides,   if you would look at   your favorite podcasting app, it'll tell you who the people   are. You know? We have our names up there, so I don't know how you got Rachel   twice   from Rich   or Richard.  

So yeah. No. I yeah. After after the second one, I was like, yeah. No, dude. You're you're done.   You're done.   But yeah. All done. I figured I figured I would I would   send it to you and just   and just let you erase that.   Yeah. Because I mean I mean, I was glad I was glad for,   you know, the   email, you know, because that's that's our first one, you know, of   like that. But, yeah, it's like   you gotta get my name right. Sorry, house. I ain't even gonna talk to you. Yeah. Ain't even gonna talk to you unless you can get my name right. You know? You can call me asshole. I don't care. I'll answer you then.   You know?  

But Rachel? Yeah. No. Sorry. No. No. I'm not gonna do it. I I built that away.   So   so, yeah, that's that's Sir? That's what's going on on that front.  

[02:56:23] Bryan Goodwin:

So yeah. You know? I remember seeing that, and I I know we forgot to mention it last week. I was like, oh, wow. Yeah. I need to need to follow-up on that, see what we got.  

[02:56:33] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yeah. It was just it was just Apparently, apparently, AI struck again. And   Right.   But, yeah, the, the second email   was,   was shorter. You know?   But, yeah, it just   it just said, hi, Rachel.   I wanted to drop you another quick note in case my earlier email slipped under the radar.   Joining you and the two grumpy vets   would be such an exciting opportunity   for me to share the impactful lessons I've accumulated   on my resilience.   My life has put me through an incredible journey in writing   overcoming   life's toughest setbacks.   It was my way of turning adversity into empowering   narratives that could help others grow through their own challenges. So, yeah, he was wanting to promote his own book.  

And he says, your podcast   regularly   engages in meaningful   discussions,   okay,   about life's pressures,   and that's a dialogue I'm incredibly   passionate   about being part of. I know how crucial   understanding resilience is for overcoming personal hardships   and would love a chance to connect   with your audience and offer some hope in practical strategies.   I would be thrilled if we could explore how I might contribute   to your show. Thank you for your time and consideration,   Rachel.  

[02:58:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Warm regards.   Sadly,   you, yeah,   did not hear a single one of our episodes.   Right?   Right? I it's like it's like  

[02:58:20] Rich Chelson:

when I read this one, I'm like, yeah, dude. No. You're gone   because you have not listened to anything we've said.   And and the thing is, though, in the first email, if you read the first email,   he named you and spelled it right or the AI spelled it right   or he changed it. But, yeah, in the first email,   it has it has your name in it, and it spelled it.   Oh, and and and he has 15   core beliefs.   You only have four.  

[02:58:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well   So yeah. Mine's just to just to help men be able to get past the,   the the excessive amounts of stress they they would experience. So  

[02:59:05] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. But yeah. No. And, I mean I mean, for me, it was it was a whole Rachel thing. Oh, no. I agree.   Sorry, dude. And and,   you know,   at least listen to an episode or two before you bring an email like that. That's all I'm saying.  

[02:59:25] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, I'll I'll just read an email.  

[02:59:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh. We'll read it out. Yeah. I was gonna say, and we'll just don't try to muscle in on the show because   you ain't coming in, especially if we don't know you from Adam.  

[02:59:37] Rich Chelson:

Right.   That's exactly right. So   okay.  

[02:59:43] Bryan Goodwin:

So, ma'am, alright.   So,   dude, what say you?  

[02:59:49] Duuude-Ron :

What say me? Well, as always,   enjoy,   you guys' company and, you know, being able to dog somebody out. I got you know, have to at least harass somebody   throughout the week.   So, you know, just having in our conversations,   which pertain to,   well,   not a whole hell of a lot, just our   opinions and our arguments and our debates over   anything and everything, and I'm glad that everybody enjoys,   us   rambling the way that we do.   Yeah. And   and appreciate you coming back every week   to hear us,   you know,   argue and communicate.  

[03:00:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely.   So Alright. Well, with that, guys, I wanna go ahead and say   to the folks out there listening to the show, thank y'all for, again, for listening. And guys,   Rich, Ron, you too, appreciate every single time you all both come on. We get to sit down and have a   have an interesting discussion about whatever happens to come in our mind. So it is,   always a pleasure. So alright, guys. Well, y'all take care. We will see y'all next week. Audience, guys, y'all take care. Y'all be safe out there, and we will see y'all next Thursday. Till then.   Bye.  



[03:01:15] Duuude-Ron :

Later.   Peace out.  

[03:01:18] Rich Chelson:

Alright, guys. See you next week. Alright. Alright. See you next week. Bye.