Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets, where three friends, Brian, Rich, and the Dude, gather weekly to share their unique blend of humor and social commentary. This week, we dive into the challenges of podcasting, from technical glitches to tracking listener stats, and the joys of seeing our audience grow. We also explore the fascinating world of podcast subscriptions and the economics behind them, with a humorous take on why some people might choose to charge for their content.

In a lighter segment, we reminisce about the evolution of music consumption, from the days of Napster and LimeWire to today's streaming services. The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as we discuss favorite music genres and the timeless appeal of 80s hits.

The episode takes an intriguing twist as we delve into the world of grilled cheese sandwiches, inspired by the concept of a $1 grilled cheese food truck. We explore the simplicity and potential profitability of such a venture, sparking a lively discussion about food truck business models.

We also touch on global events, including the BRICS summit and geopolitical dynamics, offering our perspectives on how these developments might impact the world.

As always, our conversation is a mix of humor, insight, and camaraderie, showcasing the value of intentional living and meaningful friendships. Join us for another engaging episode filled with laughter and thought-provoking discussions.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude.  

[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Lives,   lives not working for me.  

[00:00:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Still not work being a good guy,  

[00:00:41] Rich Chelson:

No. No. I messed with it yesterday, and and   I had to go to physical therapy today and   trying to mess with it. And and   it's it's not working, and I'm   I'm gonna have to dive into it tomorrow. And,   hey. It's   I mean, it wasn't working on the p 4.   You know? And Right.   I mean, you'd think with   this Audio Sigma, it would be,   you know, it'd be the same, but but for some reason,   say I was looking at the info   the saved info through Pod Home.   Uh-huh.   It should be working.   And Pod Home says we're live.   Yep.   But says   no. It just says connecting,   and it doesn't say anything.  

And I've verified the stream. I've verified the port,   verified the password,   everything.  

[00:01:45] Bryan Goodwin:

No. It's just saying that it's connecting. It's not actually connected.  

[00:01:49] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Yeah. It say it says connecting   and three dots after it.   And it's been like that for, nah, the last couple   minutes. So I I'm not   so I'm not sure.  

[00:02:08] Bryan Goodwin:

That is really odd.  

[00:02:10] Duuude-Ron :

It is. It is.  

[00:02:12] Rich Chelson:

I will,   figure it out, though.  

[00:02:15] Duuude-Ron :

Alright.  

[00:02:18] Rich Chelson:

Because that's the thing. You know, I do that, and then then I go on the fountain,   try and you know?   Yeah. It shows us being live. Pot homes   says, okay, fountain. These guys are live. And when I hit the, live button,   yeah, it it rolls around in a circle for a couple of times, and then it says, yeah. No.   They ain't live.   They're dead.   Save your library.   So   Yep.   Yeah. I'll figure something out.  

[00:02:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:03:00] Rich Chelson:

One way or another, I'll I'll figure something out.   You seeing our stats?  

[00:03:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Not this week.  

[00:03:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. We've got,   we get 7 more downloads,   and we'll have our best month ever.   Will it break There you go. Will it break,   last month?   We're at 11:52   right now.   See.  

[00:03:34] Duuude-Ron :

As of Monday,   October 21st.   Yeah.  

[00:03:45] Bryan Goodwin:

According to,   o p 3, we had a couple of, couple days where we had, like, 20 something downloads.  

[00:03:54] Rich Chelson:

Well   back September. Never mind. Yeah. Well, either way, I mean, still, it's not bad.  

[00:04:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Bing bong.  

[00:04:11] Duuude-Ron :

Dude.  

[00:04:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It's   may have to just drop a drop a little mention podcast in some of the vet groups.  

[00:04:27] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:04:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Just let them let them throw around a little hate.  

[00:04:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   It's funny. In a in a o p 3, it says   it says the top device types.   75%   mobile, 25% computer. Right?  

[00:04:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[00:04:46] Rich Chelson:

In Pod Home,   it's, the opposite.  

[00:04:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I'm not a 100% sure I fully trust all Pod Home's download stats.  

[00:04:58] Rich Chelson:

Right.   I mean, it's yeah. No. I yeah. I've noticed I've noticed some,   you know, some numbers because yeah. It's saying,   it's saying 76.69%   on the computer   and 23.31   on mobile, and some tells me that's that's   switched.  

[00:05:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:05:23] Rich Chelson:

Because, I mean, everybody uses mobile.  

[00:05:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And it tells me it says that I'm, that I've got,   predominantly   HTTP,   Apache   as the, primary,   client, and I'm, like, going, something's just not jiving on that one.  

[00:05:43] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:05:43] Bryan Goodwin:

So I think they're I think he's he's reading some bots by   and not realizing that.  

[00:05:50] Rich Chelson:

That could be.   But, I mean, he is a good product.  

[00:05:56] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. He's great. I mean, if if his problem if his biggest problem is the is the stats, I mean,   hell, we can use blueberry and, and o p 3 and and do just fine.  

[00:06:08] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. And, I mean, honestly, it's like, you know what? We've got people that fucking listen to us. We know this.  

[00:06:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely.  

[00:06:17] Rich Chelson:

So, I mean, it's like, who cares?   Yeah. I'm not yeah. I mean,   yeah. Look at the stats, you   know, gives me a boost, but yet at the same time, it's like,   hey. We got people that that that have downloaded our whole catalog.   Right. Okay. We've got proof.   So it's like someone's listening to us.  

[00:06:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Someone has gone through and at least listened to   those 2 as once or twice.   So   did find an interesting podcast,   app out there that,   that's kind of a just kind of a neat thing to see.   So, it's called, Podcast X-ray.   Podcast X-ray? Yeah. And it's over podcastx-ray.com.   And it gives you just kind of an overview of all the different, of different podcasts. So  

[00:07:21] Rich Chelson:

Really? Yeah.   Are we on there? Oh, yeah.   Oh, shoot. Okay.  

[00:07:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It says   tells us on we're we're,   no, and we're not a pay the,   pay prescription,   subscriptions   model. So we're a free,   we're a free podcast.   Technical details, we use RSS,   and it gives our RSS number, podcast, app podcast mirror URL,   postings,   through,   through PodHome,   prefixes,   are 0 p 3.   Most, recent enclosure URL is the 0p3.dev/e./serpodhomefm   episode.   So  

[00:08:13] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:08:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Analytics,   you could actually go through and pull up your o p three analytics,   page from there.   6 months, created,   April 15th.   Available episodes, 28.   Stated frequency, updated weekly.   Timeline for 28 most episodes, and, it gives you a little a little bar graph.   Okay. So,   most popular days and times to publish.   We've most of, most of the episodes are about, for them at UTC is is at 4 o'clock, which is, I think, what, 6 o'clock at our time.  

[00:08:55] Rich Chelson:

So minus 5. Minus 5.  

[00:09:01] Bryan Goodwin:

So and then we got a couple that come out on Yeah. 11 o'clock.  

[00:09:06] Rich Chelson:

Well,   well, I set it for 11:59.   Okay.   You know?   Let it set it for 11:59   on Sunday night. I don't know why I just I I just do that.   Nah.   But   and there was one week when I didn't get done with it till,   like, 1 30, 2 o'clock Sunday morning   or Monday morning because I was still up.   And, I don't know why I was running late on it, but I was. Maybe I wasn't feeling good that day.   And I just I just published as soon as I got done with it. Oh.   Fuck the schedule, and I done I done blew the   I done blew the deadline, man. So Oh, yeah. It's like published.   But,   I mean, no one knew the difference.  



[00:10:05] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No.   Most folks won't.  

[00:10:10] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   So,   yeah, we got  

[00:10:17] Rich Chelson:

I was gonna say that is weird, though, that that   they,   they,   I guess, have to or make the distinction between   if if we're a paid pod   paid for podcast or a free podcast. I I  

[00:10:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, it's just for so if you're if,   it's more I think it's more for, for troubleshooting.   So so somebody comes along and goes, I'm not getting any downloads, and they go, I'm looking. You go, well, that's because you're sitting as a as a subscription podcast. You don't have any listeners.  

[00:10:57] Rich Chelson:

I okay. I don't I don't understand that because if you're   well, one, I don't I don't understand paid for podcasts anyway. But   the main thing is, though, even if you have your podcast as a subscription,   you could still get listeners, couldn't you?  

[00:11:15] Bryan Goodwin:

No. You gotta pay for it.  

[00:11:20] Rich Chelson:

What the hell?  

[00:11:22] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm. I know. Hey, Rich. Don't feel don't feel bad   that you don't understand. Don't feel bad that you don't understand that.   Why is that? Why? Why? Because I don't understand a fucking thing you guys have been talking about ever since I stepped foot into the fucking conversation.  

[00:11:43] Rich Chelson:

Oh my gosh.  

[00:11:45] Duuude-Ron :

Did you see   it? Did you see it? Here. Here it comes.   And big ass fucking mosquito that comes around here. Right.   No.  

[00:12:01] Rich Chelson:

No. And and well, okay. Okay, Brian. Let me ask you this. What what would what would possess a person other than   the love of money?   What would possess a person to   make their podcast a subscription   to a style podcast?  

[00:12:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Because it because they can get paid. That's why but the funny thing is is if you're doing the paid, which   is, like, through Apple   Mhmm. Apple's still going to take   30%. So if you if your subscription is   is a is a dollar,   you're only   getting 7 per 70¢.   Right.  

[00:12:46] Rich Chelson:

Because Apple thinks they need to have 30% of every dollar that you make. Right. Right. No. No. And and and, yeah, I understand that. I mean, I don't agree with that by no means. But, yeah, I understand it. But still, the fact is   is   so, apparently, people are just that fucking greedy that that they think that what they had to say,   they should get paid for.  

[00:13:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow. Well, yeah. That's pay that's what folks on Patreon do.  

[00:13:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. See, that's that's the you you see, that's the thing, man.  

[00:13:24] Duuude-Ron :

What do you mean news capture?   They wanna get paid to fucking talk. Alright?  

[00:13:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah. And it's   the the   if you have a if you have a, a an audience.   So maybe say you have, you know,   40, 50000 downloads a, a week,   then okay. I can understand. Maybe you wanna do a   a special   podcast   for them,   like an extra an extra episode   where you go   deeper into the, whatever the topic is.   Right. Yeah. I can get that. But Yeah. I get that too. But some people   no. They they go off and go, yeah. I'm gonna be and then they they but they don't realize they don't have an audience yet. And they're like, well, I'm wondering why they aren't getting any, getting any listeners.   Well, it's because you don't have an audience, and no one could tell if your shit's any good or not.  



[00:14:27] Rich Chelson:

Right. And no. No. You see, this thing, I get it because it's like it's like, you know, they're   these, podcasters are   normally everyday people   like   us.   Okay?   Yes. They have A lot of them are. Well, yeah. A lot of them are. I mean well, I mean, we don't know exactly who they are, so   we just kinda have to assume they're like us. But then again, there's not many people like us.   No. You   know? But but   you know what I mean.  

[00:15:00] Duuude-Ron :

I'm not saying that. But and and I'm like you, Rick.   And I'm like you, Rich. Why the fuck am I gonna pay   to listen to somebody   when there's so much fucking free shit out there?  

[00:15:14] Rich Chelson:

Well, exactly.  

[00:15:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Because you might actually really like that person.   So for for well, I don't I don't know you're you're saying not right now,   but,   like for me, Dan Carlin,   I have spent money getting some of his old episodes.  

[00:15:36] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:15:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Because I love listening to Dan Carlin's hardcore history.   He puts out some amazing stuff.  

[00:15:46] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:15:47] Bryan Goodwin:

But, but a lot of his older stuff is   he's taken off.   And now he doesn't charge you much. It's not like he's charging you $15 for an episode. It's only, like, a dollar for a 6 hour episode. So, you know,   it's not it's not expensive at all at all. He's just wanting you to help   pay for the work that he's done.  

[00:16:09] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. And and, you know, someone like that who's who's been around for quite a while, that's fine.  

[00:16:17] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Oh, yeah. No. Dan Carlin, for the longest time, he was the number one podcaster in on the Internet.  

[00:16:25] Rich Chelson:

Right.   And say, though, that's the thing. Doing  

[00:16:30] Duuude-Ron :

Go ahead. Doing what? Doing what?  

[00:16:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Doing 6 hour history podcast.  

[00:16:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.   6 hours on   History.   Yeah. Like the military  

[00:16:45] Bryan Goodwin:

war or the fucking Let let me bring up some of his let me bring up some of his,   some of the episodes that he has available as of right now. So let's see here.  

[00:16:55] Rich Chelson:

Like the Romans?  

[00:16:57] Bryan Goodwin:

He doesn't Well, he started out with the Romans. Yeah. But one of his most fascinating ones and ones that really got me,   I can't dream. I didn't realize the wild west extravaganza   put out so much so much stuff.  

[00:17:13] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. This guy this guy goes through and and and does   6 months or a year worth of research for an episode.   Oh, okay.   It's not like he opens up uncle Google   and gets all of it from there and then and then throws it together and then rambles on for 6 hours.  

[00:17:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. See, he,   let's see. He did   episode 50   is,   was ep part 1, blueprint for Armageddon.   And that was a 3 hour 7 minute show. And, basically, it was about,   the planet hadn't seen a major war since all, all the great power between all the great power powers since the downfall of Napoleon that water in, like, in 18 15.   But 99 years later, the dam breaks in Pandora's box of violence engulfs the planet.   But I'll let you know that little series of the blueprint from Armageddon,  

[00:18:13] Duuude-Ron :

my favorite.  

[00:18:17] Bryan Goodwin:

My absolute favorite. And that was 3 hours long.   That's part 1.   Part 2 was another 3 hours and some change.   Part 3, 4 hours.   Part 5, 4 hours.   Or, part 4 was, was 4 hours. Part 5 was 4 and a half hours.   And part 6   was,   4 hours and 15 minutes. So that's, you know, that's 4, 8   see,   I'm too good looking for math. So 3, 3, 3, 3. So 4, 4,   4 times 4. That's 16 hours right there.   19 hours.   So about 22 hours, 23 hours worth of,   worth of program just on one topic,   World War 1.  

[00:19:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   okay.  

[00:19:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Sure. He's   talking about the king of kings, which is,   the all the secession of different king, of all the kings and stuff from,   from the,   in the Middle East.   Talks about the Asian Pacific War   for, see here, 3, 4, 5,   6. Yeah. For 6, he had 6 episodes about the, about the   Asian Pacific,   theater of World War 2, which is, again,   absolutely   fascinating.   And so and he's got a few more that I haven't quite gotten to, like Twila the which,   Dan's,   Thor Angels show.   I don't remember his Thor Angels   show. I don't know what that one's about.   So in the Middle Ages, pagan Germanic languages speakers,   like the Vikings are a dying breed, but many of the Ciparas wish they had died faster. So basically, he's talking about Vikings and the Germanic,   culture,   back then.  

He,   he's talked about,   the,   the,   the the galtic war.   That, the Celtic holocaust is what he calls it, where,   where Julius Caesar took on and,   was out to, kill all all Celts,   which isn't just Irish. They were all people who were,   were of a,   of a certain,   certain   descent other than just   there were,   Celts in in, in France. There was Celts in, in Germany and and and all.   Sure. Okay. I believe you. But it's great. Not honestly.   You wanna be entertained   and learn something   and know that you don't have to change the the damn channel for the next   24 hours?  

Dan Carlin's the man.  

[00:21:41] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Me?   If I wanna do 24 hours, I'm just trying to fucking catch up on some sleep.  

[00:21:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, but you this is what you do when you're driving.   This is to it while you're driving driving your truck around.  

[00:21:57] Rich Chelson:

That or dude,   put it on when you can't sleep.  

[00:22:03] Bryan Goodwin:

No. That that'll keep you that's still keep you awake. He his   storytelling skills are that good.  

[00:22:10] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really? Oh, yeah.  

[00:22:14] Bryan Goodwin:

I recommend it. Both of y'all. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna we're gonna do a test come next week.   Episode,   episode 50, show 50 of, Dan Carlin's Hardcore History.  

[00:22:27] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I've looked at his podcast and just,   you know, played a few minutes, but never,   you know, my mind was always elsewhere.   Right.   So episode 50.  

[00:22:43] Duuude-Ron :

Episode 50. You better you better text that shit to me because I ain't gonna fucking remember that in the next 15 minutes,   let alone let alone by the time we get done with this show, let alone   tomorrow morning,   if I ever listened to it at all.  

[00:22:59] Rich Chelson:

Well, shit. That was like me,   this morning.   I had gotten up and,   was, you know, taking my pills and stuff. My phone goes off, and it was text messages in his VA saying,   you know, you have an appointment coming up, this blah blah blah.   And I was half asleep, and it said, press y, like, 49 to accept.   And then, second one come out, what the fuck? And I'm sitting there looking. It said 15:30. And it's like, I thought I had to be at the VA at 2 o'clock today.   And so I had to call the VA because everything I had said 2 o'clock, but,   for some reason, my brain was thinking it was 3:30   and that I was supposed to go do my,   EKG today. No. That's next week.  

I've gone down.   So so it's like it's like I had to call the VA. It's like, what time of my damn appointment today?  

[00:24:01] Duuude-Ron :

You know? And so And where am I going?   And where the hell am I going? And  

[00:24:07] Rich Chelson:

I mean I mean yeah. I don't I   yeah. I was talking to her and,   yeah.   Yeah. She was like,   yeah. It said, 1400.   I said, okay. Good. And it's just physical therapy. Next week is when I,   have to be   at do the EKG at 1:30 and then,   the,   physical therapy at 3:30.   So  

[00:24:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, the only thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give y'all better give y'all a better,   length than that because, it just dawned on me that   y'all y'all don't have,   don't have iPhones.  

[00:24:53] Rich Chelson:

Dude, dude, I've got I've got, like, 3 podcasting apps I can find it. It's all good. Yeah. I mean,   you said that. I mean, that's fine.  

[00:25:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Let me pull it up on my on the cast because   that one that one's good. I think that one would work for real well for dude.  

[00:25:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. He could listen to it while he's driving.   Yeah. Dude, you dude, you able to plug your phone into your stereo?  

[00:25:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. He usually listens to, YouTube songs.  

[00:25:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Well, that's the radio. You.  

[00:25:35] Duuude-Ron :

No. I listen to the freaking radio.  

[00:25:37] Bryan Goodwin:

You told me you listen to YouTube songs.  

[00:25:41] Duuude-Ron :

No. That's when I'm in my my vehicle.  

[00:25:47] Bryan Goodwin:

I thought y'all I thought y'all's radio in the truck had a had an aux cord in it.  

[00:25:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'm sure it does. I have no idea.   When I go north of Waco,   it goes on 98.7.   They play eighties music for the most part. I'm good.   Come south of Waco,   I hit   95.7,   plays mostly eighties may music.   I'm good.  

[00:26:23] Rich Chelson:

I swear.  

[00:26:25] Duuude-Ron :

And sister.  

[00:26:27] Rich Chelson:

Eighty's on 8 on satellite radio.  

[00:26:32] Duuude-Ron :

And all she listens to. And if I listen to   and if I go to,   my satellite radio that I have on my   phone,   guess what channel it's   on? Eighty's on 8.  

[00:26:50] Rich Chelson:

I swear.   I'm good. I I don't   I mean, I mean, I I mean, I like the eighties. I, you know, you know, we all grew up in the eighties. I love the eighties music, but I cannot listen to it   over and over and over and over. Just can't.  

[00:27:09] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, that's   I listen to that majority of the time. But there's also channels that I listen to that   are, you know, modern music,   but, of course, it's   not headbangers music.  

[00:27:26] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:27:28] Duuude-Ron :

You know, but, yeah, there's some modern stuff that I like.   You know, not a whole hell of a lot. There to hell ain't fucking rap and hip hop. That's for damn sure.  

[00:27:39] Rich Chelson:

No. I know that. It just it just  

[00:27:42] Duuude-Ron :

But yeah. Yeah.  

[00:27:45] Rich Chelson:

You know, I just hear eighties music in classic rock because, you see, that's the thing. Most most your radio stations play the same fucking songs over and over, week in, day in and day out, week in and week out, month in and month out.   They don't really change that much.   And and I've I've always I've always been of the belief that   there were a lot more hits   than just,   same 20 songs   per hour they play.  

[00:28:16] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[00:28:18] Rich Chelson:

And and   there was even some b side hits   that that, that don't get any airtime. But these program directors at these radio stations,   they're just   they've got blinders on.  

[00:28:33] Duuude-Ron :

Well and, you know, like, my YouTube, I got my,   you know, I got my playlist   of stuff that I have   selected that, you know, it's genres   all over the place.  

[00:28:47] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:28:48] Duuude-Ron :

You know, so and that I may listen to that. But,   you know,   for a podcast and something like that, no. Just   I haven't.   I'm not saying that I can't. I just I just haven't.  

[00:29:07] Rich Chelson:

Well, if you can hook your phone to your radio   in the truck   and play it through there,   shoot. Put a podcast on, dude, and just drive   and listen.  

[00:29:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'll have to look at my radio.   I'm sure it does.   I just  

[00:29:26] Rich Chelson:

I'd imagine so since it's a a new truck.  

[00:29:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. 4000   4,586   miles today, I think.  

[00:29:43] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's, yeah, that's a new truck. You can hook   you can hook your phone up because   I meant I remember back I remember back before,   podcast   before,   yeah, podcasts were just strictly on the Internet.   You know,   they had audiobooks you could rent in the truck stop at one truck stop, listen to them, and then drop them off at another truck stop.  

[00:30:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I believe that.  

[00:30:15] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. There was I spent a buttload of money doing that.   You know, I'd get the books that were 9, 10, 12, 15 hours.  

[00:30:26] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I'm sure you're also listening to them when you're in the rack too.   No.  

[00:30:32] Rich Chelson:

No. They went out to the that. Oh, okay. Driving.   And then,   and then and then when and then when that service went out   or faded out, it it faded out pretty quick. They started selling them.   Okay. They were doing them and, selling them. And,   good god. I I had probably $1,000   worth of books,   or audiobooks   because they were expensive. They were, like, 30, $35 a pop.   And I had probably   oh, god. I don't know.   At any one time   in my truck, I probably had 5 or 6 books.  

[00:31:19] Duuude-Ron :

And then, what were they what were they on?   CDs? Or   Yeah.   Oh, okay. Okay. CDs?  

[00:31:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. That was when that was when CDs were big.   And then,   and then podcasts,   well,   satellite radio came into play then.   And, the books on well,   well, the first books were on,   cassette tape,   books on tape.   And then they switched to CDs,   and then   satellite radio came in.   And then they started,   doing,   MP threes.  

[00:32:02] Duuude-Ron :

So Oh, okay.  

[00:32:04] Rich Chelson:

But they still held on to the audiobooks   on CDs for quite a while yet.  

[00:32:12] Duuude-Ron :

I remember MP 3 and downloading music off of what the hell is that one site?   Napster. Napster?   No. Not Napster.   I never downloaded off of Napster.  

[00:32:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, was that a LimeWire is the only other app I LimeWire.  

[00:32:31] Duuude-Ron :

No. It wasn't LimeWire.   It was a bear. Their mascot was a bear,   I think.   Hell, I ate and slept since then. So  

[00:32:44] Rich Chelson:

I only knew of Napster and LimeWire.   LimeWire was my go to.  

[00:32:50] Duuude-Ron :

No. It wasn't Napster.   I don't fucking remember.  

[00:32:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because, I didn't start I didn't start downloading music until,   when when, Napster took the hit   and,   they was talking about, oh, man. They was,   they was screaming at the top of their lungs. We're coming after everybody. Rah, rah, rah, rah, rah. They didn't do shit on that, and then Limewire come out.   And, shit, it was more than music. You could health.   You could get whole operating systems.  

[00:33:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:33:28] Rich Chelson:

Software,   any program you wanted. I mean,   right off Limewire. I mean, I just   as long as you had a high enough seed count, the download was normally pretty good.  

[00:33:43] Duuude-Ron :

Sure.   No. I never download the only thing I ever downloaded was music.  

[00:33:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   I was a geek.   I would download programs,   freaking programs that at the time cost, like, 3, 4, $500   or Oh, yeah. Or even a $100.   If it cost anything,   LimeWire, buddy.   LimeWire.   Well, seems odd.   Not a computer geek, so  

[00:34:18] Duuude-Ron :

no. Didn't download shit.  

[00:34:20] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:34:21] Duuude-Ron :

Don't know how to, so   that's the whole thing.   I just don't have a clue.  

[00:34:29] Rich Chelson:

Well, nowadays, it's easy. They have a big download button.   Yeah. You're a funny motherfucker.   No. Dude, seriously.   That's a big old download button. It says download.  

[00:34:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I know. Folder.   Yeah. Well, I first of all, I gotta get a computer. And then second of all, I have to get some type of Internet aspect to   download shit.   And I don't see myself affording a computer anytime soon.  

[00:34:59] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. You're that's you're you don't need a computer.   You can you can download,   you can actually listen to music and all that. I mean, Spotify   is is a great way of doing it.   Google Music, if you want a want a different way.   Well, they don't Oh, right now. I I forgot I forgot Google killed killed music also. So  

[00:35:25] Rich Chelson:

let's see. I have Yeah. They did. Google. Yeah. Yeah. What's up with Google on that, man?  

[00:35:32] Bryan Goodwin:

They can't make money off of it.   I don't know how they can't make money off of selling music, but they can't.  

[00:35:39] Rich Chelson:

I mean, Apple does it all the time. Been doing it.   Sorry about that, dude. What was you saying?  

[00:35:49] Duuude-Ron :

I don't fucking remember.   Okay.   Don't have a fucking clue.   Let's see. What do I have? I have Iheartradio.   Eighty's on   8. I have   YouTube.   And what's it all else? So I have   I   have Sears   only because somebody gave it to me.   Right. And I don't even listen to Sears.   I'll open up the Iheart and   go 8 on 8 and   or eighties on 8, or I'll open up my   my YouTube,   playlist that I've made, and   that's about it.  

[00:36:40] Rich Chelson:

Well, the eighties on eighties through the SiriusXM.  

[00:36:44] Duuude-Ron :

Well, Iheart has this basically the same thing.  

[00:36:48] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Okay.   It's nothing but eighties music.  

[00:36:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's nothing but eighties music. And then, of course, you have the then you have the, you know, the big hair bands,   and then you have   the bang your head music,   And then you have well, okay. Bang your head. Ozzy Osbourne,   Ronnie James Dio,   Motley Crue. Well, Motley Crue is more of a big hair band.   Then you have   Bang Your Head, Metallica,   that kind of stuff. And then I don't even let   now the shit that my brother listens to, that's well past Bang Your Head. That's beat your face   on the stage music.  

[00:37:38] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that's that's   like screamo and   death metal and shit like that.  

[00:37:44] Duuude-Ron :

Death metal. Yeah. That's what he listens to is death metal.   All all the ones that sounds like they're fucking got the microphone   shoved in their mouth and   and screaming.   And you can't   you can't understand a fucking thing they say, but he enjoys it.   Knock yourself out. I ain't gonna listen to the shit.   Right. And that's anthrax   and,   Megadeath   and  

[00:38:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, no. That's just hard rock.  

[00:38:16] Rich Chelson:

Megan?   No. Look. Anthrax.  

[00:38:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Anthrax is just oh god. Yeah. I'm the Man's one of the best songs they ever wrote.  

[00:38:26] Duuude-Ron :

Don't get me who the names of the groups are. There's a couple   that, you know,   there's,   like, maybe a song that I like from the group. Yeah. Yeah. But that's about it.   I don't know what the hell is the name of this group.   I'll have to open up my   my YouTube and try and find it. I can't hell, I can't even remember the   name of the song right now, but you really can't you can't understand hardly a word they're saying, but I like the the song beat.  

[00:39:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:39:06] Duuude-Ron :

And they're from Germany is where the group is from.   And the only English that they speak is when they sing.  

[00:39:15] Rich Chelson:

Really? That's crazy.  

[00:39:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. That's almost reverse of what, what is it?   Oh,   the   named after the the the, airport. Ramstein.   Ram, Ram, Ramstein. Yeah.  

[00:39:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Ramstein?  

[00:39:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. They   they   they'd sing they're I think they're actually a bunch of dental students. At least that's the their urban legend portion of it that I always heard   who, they started out as as dental students, but,   had so much fun jamming together that they, they got together. But, yeah, a bunch of English speaking kids that,   that,   sing, sing German.   Oh, okay. So it yeah. So it sounds angry.   They could be saying I like kittens, and it still sounds like it you know, they're summoning Cthulhu or something.  

[00:40:07] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:40:09] Rich Chelson:

Well, see, that's like that's like the one song I loved. It was late eighties, early nineties.   It was from Nina.  

[00:40:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. 99 Loosperlootens.  

[00:40:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And and I love the German version over the English version.  

[00:40:24] Duuude-Ron :

And, actually, the German version   was more popular in the United States than the   American version.  

[00:40:33] Rich Chelson:

Yes. I know. And and I I mean, I still I still to this day,   I love that song. I don't know why. And, I mean, I mean, her voice is just amazing as it is.   But yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. 99 left balloons. I love that song.   Yeah. That was   you know, I don't know why that's just   Lita Ford actually,   got me going.   I love I loved a few of her songs.  

[00:41:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. She was a she's a good one to listen to.  

[00:41:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   See now   see now those, I mean, I can't I can't listen to them all the time, but, you know you know, a couple, 2, 3 times a year, or or if I'm in the right mood, oh, hell, yeah.   It's game on. I'm I'm I'm   I'm fucking caterwauling in a bucket.  

[00:41:34] Duuude-Ron :

Man, that that was a big fucking phrase for you this time of night.  

[00:41:39] Rich Chelson:

Right?  

[00:41:40] Bryan Goodwin:

That's show title right there, caterwaulin' it. Yeah.  

[00:41:44] Duuude-Ron :

That is definitely a show title   because you will never remember that again.  

[00:41:52] Rich Chelson:

That's for damn sure.   That but hang on. I'm gonna write it down.  

[00:41:57] Duuude-Ron :

Just send me a text message. Yeah.   Yeah. You better write it down because you sure to hell will forget.  

[00:42:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Send me a text too, Brian, please.  

[00:42:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Either one with a c or a k.  

[00:42:14] Rich Chelson:

I normally write it as a c, but either way, I mean, what do you think?  

[00:42:20] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm gonna let I'm gonna let Google  

[00:42:25] Rich Chelson:

decide. Do you think   Google's gonna know how to spell that word?  

[00:42:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, hell yeah.   C.   It is,   c a t e r w   a u l I n g,   Catterwallin.  

[00:42:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It takes that to me.   My brain   my brain kept it most away, and then you threw that u in there, and it just you know, my brain just   shot shit.   It just said that's it. I'm out.   But yeah. Well yeah. Every once in a while, I get in the mood. I I mean, I I love those songs out. And and I know I know I'm not singing the right words.   I know I'm not.   I don't care, though.  

[00:43:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. It is sent off to you.   Okay.   You'll receive it in your e in your Gmail.   That's [email protected].   If you're wanting   to also send, your your version of of the spelling to, to Rit. Or  

[00:43:45] Rich Chelson:

you can send send it to [email protected]   too.   That's circlecast.  

[00:43:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Well but if you do that, it's just gonna get forwarded on   to Rich. Yeah.  

[00:43:59] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Brad's gonna be like, damn it, Rich. You did it to me.  

[00:44:05] Duuude-Ron :

Sir.   But  

[00:44:09] Rich Chelson:

yeah. No. That's like   you know, I can I can handle some of the music? You know?   You know, some of the music we were raised with,   you know, I can you know, for a day or 2,   you know, when I'm in the mood. And then after that, it's like, yeah. Okay. I'm good.   Yeah. You know?   But   someone who just listens to it over and over and over, it's like because you say you say, I've gotten so used, and and this is   I don't know.   This, I guess, is the part of me that is,   I guess, part of the 21st century.   When I get tired of something, I just hit fast forward or next.  

[00:44:51] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:44:51] Rich Chelson:

You know? And and, you know, it's like, okay. Yeah. I'm done. Boom. I wanna go on to something else. And if I can't, that's why I have a hard time listening to regular radio or watching live TV   because I can't just fast forward.  

[00:45:07] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? No. Not I agree. I mean, that's just that's   one of the reasons for also for me why I don't watch television anymore.   It's it's like   when you do, it's just it's agonizing. It's like, goddamn. How many more freaking commercials you're gonna throw in here? It's bad enough. We're what we've got Paramount, so we can watch,   Yellowstone.   And my god, you're you know, it's every 15 minutes, there's another damn commercial. It's like, Jesus Christ. It's like, how many more   commercials for products I have no use for?   Are you going to are you gonna waste money on? It's like, sorry, but I don't have the equipment for for,   women's pads. And my wife didn't have the equipment   to need pads anymore. So they we we had that plumbing yanked,   several years ago. So we don't need sanitary,   products anymore.  



[00:46:07] Rich Chelson:

So No. Wait. Wait, though. Wait, though. They   they found another use for for,   women's  

[00:46:15] Bryan Goodwin:

pads. Well, I know that they do a really good job of blocking up, well, at least the tampons are really good. If you happen to have a really bloody nose, it won't stop.  

[00:46:23] Rich Chelson:

It does a real good job of that. Well yeah. No. No. But but no. I was I was I was I was leading along the lines. You know?   You know, if you,   you know, do your business in the toilet and you tend to,   you know, leak a little,   I can I can,  

[00:46:43] Bryan Goodwin:

you know I'll start wearing the pins if I need that? I'm not gonna wear a pad.   I ain't wearing I'll just go ahead and I'll I'll just I'll just throw my my all my, pride out the window and just walk around with an oversized Pamper on.   And then, by god, if I have to shit myself, you know, while going down the road, I'd just do that too.  

[00:47:07] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. I mean and then and then change your diaper and you're good. Yeah. Yeah.   Brian   Brian's a happy baby again.   No. It it just yeah. No. And   no. No. I agree.   And, you know, that's the thing. You know, they've   on the on the show I watched that that that fire country,   they've,   advertised   they really haven't,   advertised,   Yellowstone   much.   Now now they do they do advertise,   the store, the, Yellowstone  

[00:47:46] Bryan Goodwin:

store. Oh god. Yeah. And it's And I'm sorry, but   I don't know if that is actually the company. I'm I'm assuming it's the company that has somehow,   decided, hey, man. We're gonna we're just gonna go stupid in the merchandising   department   or if they just forgot to   copyright or trademark the, the brand.  

[00:48:14] Rich Chelson:

We'll see. They can't because   if you look it up, the Dutton Ranch is an actual working ranch in Montana.   Yeah. So so so this is so,   obviously, obviously, the Dutton Ranch is is the one making   making the most money, and this is probably why   this is probably the Dutton   Dutton Ranch   making money back off Hollywood being there,   I think. I don't know.  

[00:48:43] Bryan Goodwin:

It might be. I don't know.   It's just okay in my name, man.  

[00:48:47] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I I agree.  

[00:48:49] Duuude-Ron :

Now now after the freaking   last 20 minutes of trying to find this damn group and song,   the group's name is Volbeat,   and the name of the song is the Devil's Bleeding Crown.  

[00:49:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Oh, you know, yeah.   They're like, wow. Okay.  

[00:49:10] Rich Chelson:

That's a new one on me.  

[00:49:13] Duuude-Ron :

I you know what? If you I don't know if you guys would   like it or not.   But, yeah, devil's breathing fan.   Now,   have you ever heard or have either one of you ever heard of Lindsey Sterling?  

[00:49:30] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yes.  

[00:49:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Yeah. The   the violin slash fiddle player.  

[00:49:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Awesome fiddle player.  

[00:49:38] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. Yes. Let's see. And her two biggest songs, Master of Tides and Roundtable revival.  

[00:49:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Really like those.   What about what about that one girl,   Prashenko?   She's, like, 13 years old.   And   that that that girl can play a violin like nobody's   business.  

[00:50:08] Duuude-Ron :

Hell, yeah.  

[00:50:09] Rich Chelson:

Katarina   Pershenko, I think her name is.   Yeah. Look her up on YouTube.   Oh my lord.   13 years old, and and she can sing as well.  

[00:50:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, by the sound of the name, she's probably not allowed on YouTube anymore.  

[00:50:24] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. She is. You can find her you can find her all over the place on YouTube, dude.  

[00:50:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Just sounds like she's she's Russian. So, you know, when they they were doing the, the great cleansing of of all things Russian,   complete 3, 4 years ago, however long it's been since,   old poo de poops started to   get a little rambunctious.  

[00:50:47] Rich Chelson:

No, she nah, dude. She's still there. I've I've I've watched her in her current stuff.   Yeah. She in fact, she, I think, is from Ukraine if I remember right.  

[00:50:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Aye. Okay. So Yeah. Of course. Yeah. They're they're they're gonna exalt her then. Alright.  

[00:51:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. She,   Yeah. No. She's   her talent,   gives her the recognition.   It's it's not anybody  

[00:51:14] Duuude-Ron :

else. It's her Is it classical is it classical type or is it rock? Or  

[00:51:19] Rich Chelson:

All different genres.  

[00:51:22] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[00:51:23] Rich Chelson:

It's it's not really any one genre. It's all   different genres.  

[00:51:30] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Yeah. You still haven't emailed me to or or texted me the dates for the freaking   when I was supposed the 2 events I was supposed to come and see you. I did. I did it last night, dude,  

[00:51:47] Bryan Goodwin:

on Tuesday night.   It where did me in the email? That too.  

[00:51:52] Duuude-Ron :

Where did you send it to?   A text or on the,   Facebook?  

[00:52:00] Rich Chelson:

Text, I believe.   Yeah. Text.   I text.   Yeah.   In a text.   I don't I don't I don't use Facebook  

[00:52:15] Duuude-Ron :

all that much. Now the last the last text that I got between you and I is when I sent you the   that picture of me that somebody got a hold of that says, Mary whatever,   and it's the Grinch.   That's the last thing I've   received.   That and your pictures.   6 of this, half dozen of another. Right?  

[00:52:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Almost.  

[00:52:47] Duuude-Ron :

Sure. Okay. I believe you.   I don't freaking know. I just sent it in a message or  

[00:53:01] Rich Chelson:

I had I had also texted you,   Zoom's open tonight.   So, apparently, you didn't get that.  

[00:53:11] Duuude-Ron :

Zoom.  

[00:53:13] Rich Chelson:

No.  

[00:53:15] Duuude-Ron :

No. Yeah. I haven't got I haven't got anything from you   on Messenger,   Facebook Messenger,   or   from   a a regular   text.  

[00:53:33] Rich Chelson:

I swear, dude.   Your phone is gay.  

[00:53:40] Duuude-Ron :

My phone is so gay that   oh, it rejects dudes.   Oh, shit.  

[00:53:54] Rich Chelson:

But now let me know if you get that because I just texted it to you again.   The dates for Jeep and the Coast.  

[00:54:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it hasn't gone through as of yet.  

[00:54:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. I was gonna say you might try texting   texting Rich real quick and   see if Rich gets it. So   I normally get Ron's text, I think. Oh, yeah. But I was just gonna say it, and then you can reply to that and see if see if he receives it then because,   you know, who knows what's going on.  

[00:54:40] Rich Chelson:

Well, I I sent it the mobile record? I just texted  

[00:54:44] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. I just texted   yeah. You're right. It is.   And see, some of my stuff, if I don't if I send you a regular text, Rich   Mhmm. It won't go through.   But if I send you a picture,   it will go through.   Yeah. That's weird. I just text I just texted your name, Biatch,   and it still says sending.   And I guarantee you here in about 30 seconds, it's gonna tell me failed to send.  

[00:55:13] Rich Chelson:

That's T Mobile.   Folks, stay away from T Mobile.  

[00:55:18] Bryan Goodwin:

It no work if a caca.  

[00:55:20] Duuude-Ron :

But the the picture that I put in the pictures   goes right through text wall.  

[00:55:26] Rich Chelson:

You know, and that's weird because pictures are a bigger file than a text file is. Yeah. But it's use it's probably using 2 different,  

[00:55:35] Bryan Goodwin:

medium. So for whatever reason,   the SMS   portion of it is not carrying through.   Oh. All the MMS   is.  

[00:55:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But   yeah. But the SMS   is is a is a is a whole lot smaller use of bandwidth.  

[00:55:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But it's but still, it's a different service.   Yeah. But it's It's kinda like the difference between,   in a with an Apple user, you have the green bubbles and you have the blue bubbles.   If your green bubbles you know, most most I iPhone users will go, oh, it it they got an Android. You can't help it. You know? It's just, poor guy. You kinda   you kinda get relegated to a set of key a second class citizen when you're when you text a an iPhone user and they see a a green bubble.   They're just like, oh, okay. Well, we just   we got we got a slow one here, folks, so we're gonna have to talk slower. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all are y'all are just full of shit there.  



[00:56:40] Duuude-Ron :

And so well,   what it like I said, it just failed to send when I sent the words.   But the picture that I sent you the other day, it went right through. No. I can't understand this.   You you might have   to   write the text,   take a screenshot of it, and send it to me that way. What is what is that? Do all that freaking work, dude.  

[00:57:05] Bryan Goodwin:

I was gonna say there is,   Fine.  

[00:57:09] Duuude-Ron :

Then don't. I don't care.   Kiss my ass,   bitch. Oh, no. That's not a bitch. It's b ach.  

[00:57:19] Rich Chelson:

What is that? I'm just use Messenger. Alright, dude.  

[00:57:25] Duuude-Ron :

Fine.   Use Messenger.   Yeah. See, there's, like, a out of all the people that I have phone numbers for that I text, there's, like, 11 or 12.   Doesn't matter what when or   what I try to text,   does not go through to about 11 or 12 people   out of all   my contacts.   And I have no fucking idea as to why.   Well, I know why because I got a fucking piece of shit phone.  

[00:58:04] Rich Chelson:

It's not the phone, dude. I'm telling you. It's not the phone. It's the phone service.  

[00:58:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright.  

[00:58:13] Duuude-Ron :

See here.  

[00:58:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. The their new service is called rich communication   services. What is what I was looking trying to look up.   So,   that's the equivalent   of using I'm sorry. I've seen that.   Imessage   in there for, for iPhones.  

[00:58:31] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Google has that. It's, end to end encrypted.  

[00:58:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And that could be what problem,   is that he's not sending it   as a,   as a RCS. He's sending it as a text message,   as an SMS. SMS. Yeah.   And, and something or somewhere along the way, it's it's failing to,   get interpreted.   Yeah.   And, obviously,  

[00:59:00] Rich Chelson:

could yeah. I just I just I just noticed that, like, on the last   one of the last couple updates on my phone   is that,   Google messages   are now,   RCS or in in,   encrypted.   So  

[00:59:19] Bryan Goodwin:

So, yeah, Ron, you might look on, go to Google,   go to Google Play   on your, on your phone   and see if there's any updates for, for Google messages there.  

[00:59:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:59:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'll   yeah.   I'll do I'll do that as we're talking next Wednesday and see if you guys can help me and walk me through.   I'm not gonna do it on the podcast.  

[00:59:54] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:59:55] Duuude-Ron :

But, you know, I'm sure there is because if unless it updates   automatically on my phone,   no. It's   I I don't fucking know.   I probably ain't gonna get it. I have no fucking clue.  

[01:00:13] Rich Chelson:

Well, I just I just I just resent you the dates for Jeep in the Coast   and Cruise in the Coast   through Messenger.  

[01:00:21] Duuude-Ron :

So I got that one. Yep. I got that one. Yep.   Okay. So But I didn't but I didn't get   any text from you whatsoever.  

[01:00:31] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's fine.   You now have the dates. So there is no reason now have the date. Yes. You do. And there's no reason why you were not gonna be here next year.   No reason.   The only reason is if you're pushing up daisies, and I know you're not gonna be pushing up daisies.  

[01:00:52] Duuude-Ron :

You're right. Because I'm gonna get cremated because   takes up less real estate.  

[01:00:59] Rich Chelson:

Well, either way,   you're not gonna be cremated either.   Nice try, dude. You're gonna be here for jeeping the coast and cruising the coast.   Yeah. In fact in fact, Dee messaged me today. I hadn't talked to her in a while. And,   we were talking about cruising the coast. And,   yes.   Yeah. I gave her the date for it. She's like, shit.   I don't know if I'd do a whole week, but a couple days, I'm like,   no worries.   I   mean, it's it's it's the same. It's it's it's   it   once it starts, it doesn't stop.   You know? It just keeps going. So it's like, calm on down. She's like,   we might. Well, come on.  

You know, saying you might and   and doing it are 2 different things. Just say fuck it. Set the dates and come on.  

[01:01:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.  

[01:02:00] Rich Chelson:

Alright. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's it's it's that simple.   Because, yeah, it's it's yeah. It'd be   god.   Yeah. I can't wait for cruising the coast.   Honestly, if you ask me, I like to   say I like cruising the coast better than I like jeep in the coast.   Jeeping the coast was fun. Do not get me wrong. I liked it, but I like cruising the coast better.  

[01:02:29] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah.  

[01:02:30] Rich Chelson:

See all those fucking hot rocks? Hell, yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. That I tell you what, man.   If you hadn't had a hard on in a while,   yeah, you don't need Viagra.   Just   just come to Cruising the Coast, man.   Oh, I'm sure. Be walking around with a stiffy for hours.  

[01:02:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I'm sure.   Without a doubt.  

[01:03:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's and and seeing the way people build their cars and stuff,   it's cool as crap.  

[01:03:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:03:09] Rich Chelson:

You can even buy some of them cars too because they put   they've got for sale signs in them.  

[01:03:21] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, I can't even afford to pay attention,   let alone a fucking hot ride.  

[01:03:27] Rich Chelson:

You never know.   You know, I'll frame I'll frame a feather, man.  

[01:03:34] Duuude-Ron :

You're both be You're you're right. I didn't I didn't check the laundry. I made them one last night.  

[01:03:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh, see? There you go, dude.   Forgot to check the lottery.   Keep us in suspense. What's up, man?  

[01:03:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's like And and if that happens, I'm gonna find me a a huge   fucking rock to crawl up underneath   and disappear.  

[01:04:03] Rich Chelson:

You ain't gonna do that.  

[01:04:06] Duuude-Ron :

I will disappear to a few people.  

[01:04:09] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah, maybe a few people, but   no. What you're gonna do is buy about 10 or 15 jeeps and live in amongst them where where no one can see you.  

[01:04:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Turks and take or, Turks and Caicos.  

[01:04:28] Rich Chelson:

There you go.  

[01:04:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   No. I don't know if I you know,   if I won the lottery, I sure I would not buy a lot of crap. I got a lot of crap at this house that I don't even fucking   wanna look at. But  

[01:04:48] Rich Chelson:

Well, dude, swap it out. Sell the old crap and fill it up with new crap.  

[01:04:54] Duuude-Ron :

I would get one.   Yeah. I would get me 2 hot rods,   probably 2 more Jeeps,   one of them being a right hand drive Jeep,   without a doubt,   one sandrail,   and   a trailer.   I don't even know if I get a motor home. I'd probably get   a that   trailer I was telling you about the other night.   It was,   half a vehicle trailer and the other half is a, you know  

[01:05:30] Rich Chelson:

An RV.  

[01:05:31] Duuude-Ron :

An RV. Yeah.  

[01:05:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You'd need a a 100 by 100 shed minimum.  

[01:05:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And the tow vehicle might be done.  

[01:05:44] Rich Chelson:

Say, there you go.  

[01:05:50] Duuude-Ron :

Maybe even live out of that motherfucker.  

[01:05:53] Rich Chelson:

Maybe what?  

[01:05:57] Duuude-Ron :

Maybe live out of that camper.   Who knows? Who knows? Yeah. Something to think about. That's for sure. Yep. Like I said, I   and   no. I don't need a lot of crap anymore. That's all I got is crap.  

[01:06:20] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's why I was calling.   Get rid of the old crap and bring in new crap.  

[01:06:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're right. You're yeah. You're right. I can do that.  

[01:06:30] Rich Chelson:

See.  

[01:06:31] Duuude-Ron :

However, the new crap would be a lot more funner than the old crap. That's for damn sure.  

[01:06:35] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[01:06:37] Duuude-Ron :

Maybe buy me a couple of RC cars.  

[01:06:43] Rich Chelson:

1, 250,000,000   damn dollars, and he buys 1 RC car.   That's the one spending the money on me.  

[01:06:52] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   you can only play with 1 at a time. Right?   No. I might I might get 3 or 4. Well, you know, you've got 2 hands.  

[01:07:04] Rich Chelson:

You put a strap on 1 controller and a strap on another controller.   You know, if you're if you're real real,   dexterous or whatever that fancy word is   Ambidextrous?   No. That's that's switching from left hand to right hand.   I'm saying if you had 2 controllers, 1 in each hand,   trying to drive and steer and and run the throttle at the same time,   you know, if you're, you know, if you could do that,   you know, you're the man.   Because I know I can't do that.  

[01:07:43] Duuude-Ron :

I can't do that.   Yeah. Build me a, you know, what, an RC racetrack.   That's what I do.  

[01:07:50] Rich Chelson:

There you go.   What? Asphalt or dirt?  

[01:07:55] Duuude-Ron :

Come on now. Dirt.   Every bit of dirt.  

[01:08:00] Rich Chelson:

You never know, dude.  

[01:08:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, you're right. Build 1 of each and, you know,   just let the people come out and have fun on them.  

[01:08:10] Rich Chelson:

There you go.  

[01:08:11] Duuude-Ron :

Fill the knife,   you know,   stands   about,   elevate   about 6, 8 feet above   the track area so you can see the whole track.   Come out and   play. I'd even have to build a,   one for the 2 RC cars that I have now, which are rock crawlers.  

[01:08:37] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:08:39] Duuude-Ron :

And and Build a rock guard rotten garden for them.  

[01:08:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And you'd need to, build a concession stand   because, I mean, people are gonna get thirsty   and hungry.  

[01:08:54] Duuude-Ron :

You know, if I ever got   here here's the one thing I saw I saw it. I can't remember where I saw it at.   If I ever did a food truck, this is this would is what I would do as a food truck.   The guy makes nothing   but   grilled cheese sandwiches   Right. For a dollar.  

[01:09:17] Rich Chelson:

K.  

[01:09:19] Duuude-Ron :

That that's it. If   and you'll fucking give change.   So if all you have is a $5 bill, you're getting 5 grilled cheese sandwiches.  

[01:09:31] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:09:32] Duuude-Ron :

He don't make   anything   else   in his food truck. And then he has drinks, and then he has, you know, bags of chips.   But the only thing he makes is grilled cheese sandwiches   for a buck.  

[01:09:46] Rich Chelson:

Dude,   that's that's   that's the way to go right there.   Yep. Keep it simple, stupid.  

[01:09:56] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. Absolutely.  

[01:09:58] Rich Chelson:

And see and see, that's the thing. People keep coming back to him. So   he he has automatic,   repeat customers because who doesn't love a grilled cheese sandwich?   That's right. I mean, seriously, who doesn't love a grilled cheese sandwich? I mean And you know what? If yo. Go ahead.   I was gonna say maybe the person who is lactose intolerant, but, you know  

[01:10:22] Duuude-Ron :

That could be. And if you don't want a grilled cheese sandwich,   go to another food go to another food truck.  

[01:10:30] Rich Chelson:

Nope. Oh, shit.  

[01:10:32] Duuude-Ron :

Because that's all he'd make.   Yes. You're right. You can buy a check bag of chips. You know how much a bag of chips is?  

[01:10:38] Rich Chelson:

No.   A dollar.  

[01:10:41] Duuude-Ron :

Do you know how much a soda is?  

[01:10:43] Rich Chelson:

A dollar.  

[01:10:44] Duuude-Ron :

A dollar.   There's no tax. Nothing.   So you get you give them a $5 bill. Okay. You want 3 grilled cheese sandwiches, a chips, and a soda?   $5.  

[01:11:00] Rich Chelson:

Honestly honestly honestly, if you stop and think about it, that is like the best fucking business model there is.   Yeah. You've got you've got 3 staples   that everybody loves. 99%   of the people love,   and it's all for a dollar.   All for a dollar. I mean, you're I mean,   you're in demand, man. I mean, anywhere he goes, he would be in demand.  

[01:11:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:11:32] Rich Chelson:

Simple, easy, to the point.   And, you know, I mean I mean, what he makes a year,   once he pays his taxes,   shit.   Yeah. Game over.  

[01:11:45] Duuude-Ron :

Hell, yeah. And it's not like you're gonna be standing at the window for very long trying to decide what the hell you want. What do you want?   Girls need sandwich.   That's all I fucking got.   How many?   2?   $2.  

[01:12:01] Rich Chelson:

I want it with bacon. Nope.  

[01:12:04] Duuude-Ron :

Nope.   Grilled cheese sandwich. A dollar.  

[01:12:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, but that does sound really good, a grilled cheese and bacon sandwich.  

[01:12:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Actually, it does. And I well, oh, shit. I got bacon. I got bread.   And I got I got   I got everything.   God dang it.   Why did why did we have to talk about this? I'm   think I'm gonna have to make that tomorrow.   Man.  

[01:12:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh. There you go. And and will it cost you a dollar?  

[01:12:38] Rich Chelson:

No. It doesn't.  

[01:12:40] Duuude-Ron :

No. Probably not.   You   know, and if you look at it and if you truly look at it,   if I charge a dollar for a grilled cheese sandwich,   what is the fucking markup?   Because how much am I how much does it cost to me to make 1 grilled cheese sandwich?   Maybe   10¢?  

[01:13:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Maybe?   Maybe.  

[01:13:08] Duuude-Ron :

Two pieces of bread with butter on it and a piece of cheese.  

[01:13:13] Rich Chelson:

But but but you've got your electric or your gas.  

[01:13:17] Duuude-Ron :

You know, you've got other costs added on in Oh, yeah. Without without a doubt. But, damn, what the hell is the markup on it? Fucking 1500   percent.   And what is it costing me for a piece of cheese and 2 pieces of bread?  

[01:13:34] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:13:36] Duuude-Ron :

Hey. And you know, it don't take that long to fucking cook up a grilled cheese sandwich either.  

[01:13:41] Rich Chelson:

No. It doesn't.   In fact in in fact, when I do it, it'll take longer to cook the bacon   than it will to cook the grilled cheese.  

[01:13:50] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.   So it's not like you're   standing in a long line   and waiting   a large amount of time   to have your food made.   It's grilled cheese sandwich.   Bada bang, bada boom.  

[01:14:09] Rich Chelson:

Man, that's just cool.  

[01:14:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I can't remember where where I saw that and where this individual   has his,   and it was a trailer.   Right. I don't know where it was at, but,   yeah, I could probably take, you know, get a trailer.   And,   you   know, bread, cheese, and butter.  

[01:14:39] Rich Chelson:

That's that's it.  

[01:14:41] Duuude-Ron :

That's it.   And a griddle. That's all you fucking need.   Absolutely. Yep.   Yep.  

[01:14:49] Rich Chelson:

And and it would be a hit. I I literally, it would be a freaking hit.  

[01:14:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Because like you said, who the hell doesn't like a grilled cheese sandwich?  

[01:15:01] Rich Chelson:

That's right.  

[01:15:03] Duuude-Ron :

And if you can get them fucking knocked out,   yeah, within   a minute or so of people ordering their food,   hell, yeah. You're fucking gonna have repeat customers,   especially when the bar is closed.  

[01:15:23] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.   You would   you'd make $10,000   a night.   I guarantee it.  

[01:15:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Especially down on sixth Street in Austin.  

[01:15:37] Rich Chelson:

I mean,   I mean, that's that's,   that is crazy.  

[01:15:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   and he don't and he does not take any   electronic currency.   Don't don't iPhone shit. Don't no credit card.   Cash.   You ain't got cash.   And if you ain't got cash,   you know what he tells you to do? You ain't you ain't got a sandwich.   You ain't getting a sandwich for 1, go to the ATM,   get some cash.   And if you give me a 20,   guess how many grilled cheese sandwiches you're getting?  

[01:16:20] Rich Chelson:

20.  

[01:16:21] Duuude-Ron :

20.   Because I I'm not I don't do change.   I did I'm yeah. He that's dead serious.   And he makes a pretty good I guess he makes a fucking   hell of a fucking   bracket.   Yep. If you give him a 5, he's gonna give you 5 sandwiches or your choice of sandwiches,   chips, and a drink.   To equal $5.   Yep. Sure enough.  

[01:16:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Actually, it's a franchise.   Is it a franchise? Yes, sir. It's a franchise.  

[01:17:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Really? What's it called? Yes.   The Does everything have a dollar?  

[01:17:09] Rich Chelson:

No. The the $1,   grilled cheese, cash only.   See, I don't have Venmo   because I'm not   some teenage   asshole who vapes.   What's up? No change given. Sort out your own shit.   Don't ask for a goddamn tomato slices. I swear to god,   I will reach through the window,   pull you inside, and hold your head against the griddle,   which will be embarrassing for you.   Oh my god.   Excellent. No. Maybe it's not a franchise, but it's,   it was made in 2020.   Guy's name was Daniel Danger.   I knew I knew I knew you would look I knew you would look it up. Oh, hell yeah, dude. I'm I'm freaking looking it up. But Yeah. Hang hang on a second. That was,   I wanna because I wanna find out where this guy is at, man.  



[01:18:15] Duuude-Ron :

I have no idea.  

[01:18:23] Rich Chelson:

That is, I mean, that is crazy, dude.   See, I'm not sure, but, yeah, this is   it,   see, I found a picture of it here.   Let me save the picture   and share in the chat with y'all.   But   I guess this was his,  

[01:18:44] Duuude-Ron :

food And I didn't remember what the sign said on it, but I knew that there was a sign   that accompanied  

[01:18:52] Rich Chelson:

that. Oh, this is this is written all over   all over the truck.   Yeah. That's yeah. Just yeah. I want this is I mean, this is funny.   I mean, I I would   I would buy this and,   you know, sell it.   Sell grilled cheeses. I'd make it fucking kill it.  

[01:19:20] Duuude-Ron :

Literally. Hell, yeah.  

[01:19:23] Rich Chelson:

Alright. Check the chat. It's in there.  

[01:19:26] Duuude-Ron :

Alright.   Not yet. Yep. There it is. Yep. That's a guy.   Menu. Grilled cheese sandwiches for a dollar. That's it. Yep.  

[01:19:38] Rich Chelson:

No change given.  

[01:19:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. So watch your own shit.  

[01:19:44] Rich Chelson:

It's and   on the left, in the back, it says that's enough, and I can't read   the small print because oh.   Let's see. That's enough. If you need a drink,  

[01:19:58] Duuude-Ron :

go to a place that sells drinks.  

[01:20:03] Rich Chelson:

So   so this,   dude   just does grilled cheese sandwiches?  

[01:20:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   So, you know, that that is a fucking   and I bet you he sells out   every fucking night.   He sells out a supply   because he doesn't bring in a you know, he may not bring enough bread. Wherever he sets up, I guarantee he sells out.  

[01:20:36] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I don't doubt it.   I don't doubt it.   I just wanna find out where he's at because I wanna go up and get me grilled cheese sandwiches from him.  

[01:20:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Like I said, that would be one hell of a racket.  

[01:20:56] Rich Chelson:

Oh, hell yeah.   And that's the thing. This guy was a,   shoot.   He sells T shirts.  

[01:21:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Some people call it the angry grilled cheese truck.  

[01:21:13] Duuude-Ron :

Angry grilled cheese truck.   Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you guys looked that up for me.  

[01:21:25] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean I mean I mean, this is   this is intriguing, man.  

[01:21:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Just think of what kind   just think of what kind of money you could make it, jeeping at the coast or cruising at the coast.  

[01:21:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god, dude.  

[01:21:46] Duuude-Ron :

I mean Yep. Especially if you can be completely self sustained, you know, having a generator for   life and, you know, all of that other stuff? Hell, yeah. Oh, he does.  

[01:21:59] Rich Chelson:

He does. I mean, yeah.   Yeah. His stuff, he's yeah. He's set up with a generator and all that.  

[01:22:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   You're on the  

[01:22:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I am not finding his location at all. Everybody's talking about talking about the idea, but   see a real location struggles.  

[01:22:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I'm not either. I'm not I'm not fine. It's  

[01:22:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. But now would I be infringement   on copyright   if I did that? Because it's already out there.  

[01:22:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You would   In fact in fact, on,   on this one site, mediacchunk.com,   I guess I guess they were,   he's on here.   Let's see.   I don't know if he made a post or if they interviewed him or   whatnot. It's an article. Yes. So so he was   he was interviewed,   and, he said   towards the very bottom of the article   that,   to all those who have asked about franchising, all potential franchisees   will require an internship   first.   It's a decent amount of yard work. It's mostly yard work. It's yard work. So   he's saying,  

[01:23:43] Bryan Goodwin:

if You gotta work for me.  

[01:23:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean,   yeah, basically. And,   you know,   because you see and and see and see, that's the thing.   You know, if he franchised out, people would   would probably   try and sell other things, you know,   which would blow up his his freaking brand. His it would it would it would it would freaking destroy his brand, his business model, and everything. He's like, no.   You know? So, I mean, I get it.  

[01:24:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. And that's, I mean, that's the same way as it did you ever watch the, the Ray Kroc biopic?  

[01:24:28] Rich Chelson:

You know what? No. I I never did.   I never did watch it.  

[01:24:32] Bryan Goodwin:

That was that was interesting in that they actually Dude who found McDonald's?   Well, it's dude who found the McDonald brothers   found what they were doing and turned it into a whole system   and and basically developed McDonald's as it is   today. Right. Right. Yeah. And,   and that whenever he started selling the,   the   the franchise for the McDonald's brothers,   that was one of the things. He was doing hamburgers,   and then he would go back around and check, see how everyone's doing. Everyone's adding their own little menus to it. It's like, well, people like grilled grilled chicken and or or, or fried chicken. So, yeah, we went ahead and started adding fried chicken to the menu, and he was like, no. No. No. No. No. And so he would he had   to go through and and, and   piss a lot of people off, and and it's like you're doing hamburgers.  

Hamburgers   only. You're doing hamburgers,   French fries,   you know, and a and a shake. That's that's all you're doing. You're doing that. Yeah. We're not adding extra bullshit.   And, it would there was a lot of work that he had to do. And when it came to them signing up to the, to the bill, like, to the, franchise,   they couldn't do   their own shit   to to speak.   And so Right. Good   interesting. Yeah. Michael Keaton plays, plays,   Ray Kroc in the, in that   what is it? The founder?  

[01:26:06] Rich Chelson:

I can't I can't remember the name of it. I know it was on, Prime Video, and   no. It was it was Ray Kroc something.   But either way, I end up yeah. I didn't watch it. You know? And it's I mean, it I mean, it looked it'll it actually looked kind of intriguing.  

[01:26:23] Bryan Goodwin:

But Yeah. It's it's called The Founder.   Okay. So  

[01:26:31] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, seeing that see, that's the thing, you know, and that's   this guy here, this this Daniel Danger is this is why you probably don't see   many of them because he's like, no. Because,   other people would be like, oh, let's offer this. Let's offer that. And then next thing, you know, his his brand is because, like,   because, like, McDonald's, if a Ray Kroc didn't go and do that   to them other people   and shut him down,   McDonald's would not be as big as it is right now.   Right.   I'm gonna say so. I mean,   you,   you would kinda had to   be an ass,   basically.  

Shit.  

[01:27:17] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. I just wish McDonald's would I just wish McDonald's would bring back their original apple fucking pies   instead of the shit they have today.  

[01:27:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You know that ain't gonna happen.  

[01:27:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But it and you know who, has those apple pies now?   Oh, who the hell was it?   Not it's not Whataburger.   Is it no. Not Chick Fil A.   There's another chicken sandwich place   that has those apple pies, and I can't remember who it is.  

[01:27:56] Rich Chelson:

Zack's face?  

[01:27:57] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. No. No. No. Okay.  

[01:28:00] Rich Chelson:

I've never eaten at a Zack's piece. I just know they sell chicken.  

[01:28:06] Duuude-Ron :

I've   When I when I go up to Annis next time, I'll I'll find out who it is, but they have   the apple pies   that,   McDonald's used to have,   the fried ones.   Yeah. And it tastes like the old apple pies from,   from McDonald.   Oh, wow. It's added. Yeah. Hell, yeah.   All you doubt, fucking grab a whole damn bag of just those apple pies,   But not the fucking app but not the apple pies at McDonald's does now.   Hell no.   Might have been Chick Fil A.   No. It wasn't Chick Fil A.   The packaging is orange, but it's not,   but it's not Whataburger   that I don't remember who they who they got it from.  



[01:29:07] Rich Chelson:

Well, it wouldn't be hard to make your own, really. Just make the pastry and,   you know, get some apple pie filling and doctor it up a little bit.   Well, yeah. You know, that's an idea.   Good god. That's 2 things.   Guys, stop.   I'm a wind up gaining £40 back.  

[01:29:29] Duuude-Ron :

On a fucking grilled cheese sandwich?  

[01:29:31] Rich Chelson:

Probably.   Dude, have you seen me? I like to eat.  

[01:29:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. I have seen you. I know you like to eat. I'm the same way.  

[01:29:40] Rich Chelson:

One grilled cheese sandwich would just piss me the fuck off.  

[01:29:44] Duuude-Ron :

I was gonna say, wouldn't be 1.  

[01:29:47] Rich Chelson:

No. It wouldn't be 1.  

[01:29:50] Duuude-Ron :

You'd you'd be the guy that would bring me a $20 bill.   Right.  

[01:29:56] Rich Chelson:

It ain't 20.  

[01:29:57] Duuude-Ron :

What do you want? Oh, it's not what you want. It's what you're gonna get. 20 grilled cheese sandwiches.  

[01:30:03] Rich Chelson:

That's it. Good. And I turn around and walk away smiling because I got a piece of grilled cheese.   Oh, hell yeah.   I'd eat about 4 or 5, and I   tuck them into my coat, and I'd save them for later.  

[01:30:19] Duuude-Ron :

That's right.  

[01:30:20] Rich Chelson:

Walked a little bit, pull them out, and eat one. They walked a little bit, pull them out, and eat one.  

[01:30:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Yep. Thanks. You could definitely do that.  

[01:30:30] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I know I'd do that.   Shoot.   $20?   That'd feed me for,   20 grilled cheese   sandwiches would feed me for,   oh, hell, at least 4 or 5 meals, if not more.  

[01:30:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And that ain't bad for $20.   No. Hell, you could be hell, you could feed a family of 4   for $20.  

[01:30:56] Rich Chelson:

By golly.  

[01:30:57] Duuude-Ron :

20 grilled cheese sandwiches,   family of 5, that's 4 e.   Yeah. $20?  

[01:31:07] Rich Chelson:

And the kids will eat 1, maybe 2 tops. So there's 2 leftovers. So that's   2 more for dad.  

[01:31:15] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Right. And where can you go to feed a family of 5   for $20?  

[01:31:21] Rich Chelson:

No. You can't no more.  

[01:31:23] Duuude-Ron :

You can't.   That's exactly right.   So but yeah. No. So if I like I said, if I did grilled cheese sandwiches, chips,   and a soda,   man. Yeah. That's all you're getting out of this out of this trailer.   You want you want a rib? You want,   a hamburger?   You want,   chicken sandwiches?   Go to another food truck.   Man. Because all because all I got is grilled cheese sandwiches.  

[01:31:54] Rich Chelson:

Dude, cruising a boost.   You you   you would make so much money in in that week.   You could probably take the rest of the year off.  

[01:32:06] Duuude-Ron :

Probably so.  

[01:32:08] Rich Chelson:

Because I I I mean I mean, just the cars I had registered was   9,200,   and that's not counting the cars that didn't register.   And then you got all the spectators   walking around   on top of all that.   You know, $3   per person.   Let's say you're looking at 40, 50000   people.   I mean, seriously, there was, yeah, there was an ass load of people.   You know, at $3 a person,   that's a $150,000,   you know, in what, 1 or 2 days?   And Yep. You freaking do that for a whole week?   Nah, dude.   You know? I mean,   you you could easily come home with a couple of $100,000.  

[01:32:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Sounds good.  

[01:33:02] Rich Chelson:

That's like up at the, Iowa State Fair.   It's a week long up there. And   those vendors up there, god, with their prices,   they make about a half a $1,000,000   in a week.  

[01:33:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, Texas State Fair, that was, what,   almost 3 weeks long this year.  

[01:33:24] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[01:33:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh, lord.   15 days, 16 days for Texas State Fair.  

[01:33:33] Rich Chelson:

Wow.   Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Just yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. You can seriously work those 15, 16 days   out of every year and not have to work the rest of the year.   Seriously, you could.  

[01:33:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah.   It's just, having the balls to fucking,   take a leap of faith.  

[01:34:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. That's it. Sorry, my  

[01:34:04] Duuude-Ron :

asshole, my balls are pretty small.  

[01:34:10] Rich Chelson:

I got big balls.   I I travel.   I'd be scared shitless.   But, yeah, just think just think of the amount of food   she would have to have on hand.   And then and then and then, God forbid, if you ran out,   you'd have to have 1 or 2 people   running around the HEB or the other stores and   Benny, Keith, or whatever and, you know, getting supplies.  

[01:34:45] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. It would just be me.   I ain't hiring   it would be me. If I run supplies,   shut the shut the doors, and put a note up there says, be back shortly with supplies,   and we'll reopen.  

[01:35:02] Rich Chelson:

See, that's where you see, that's   you see,   I don't know.   I don't know if I'd wanna do that, to be honest with you, because   if if I mean, yeah, the sign would work.   I would think people see it, but yet,   you know, if you're there, you could,   you know, maybe talk with the people, get them to laughing and joking while you're while while someone went and got the supplies, it would keep people there. You know what I mean?   Yeah. That's true. I mean, that's just   that's the way I think.   You know? If   because if if if, like like, if I walk up and see a sign that says,   oh, I I needed supplies. I'll be back.  

You think I'm gonna wait?   No, dude. I'm out.  

[01:35:49] Duuude-Ron :

I'm gone. Well, yeah. You're right. That you're absolutely correct. There is no doubt that there would be peep some people that would be leaving,   you know, if you're out getting supplies.   However,   when you get back and open it back up, guess what?   You're gonna have people back.  

[01:36:10] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. You do. Yeah. You do. No. I agree with you. You yeah.   I don't know. That's that's where that's where,   you know, my mind  

[01:36:20] Duuude-Ron :

gets weirded out, though. You know? Well, you just well, you just make damn sure that you,   bring enough supplies for the day.   Or better yet, there's a couple barbecue places I know of. It's like, when they're out of barbecue,   they shut the doors.   If you didn't get there in time, guess what? You ain't getting barbecue that day. You'll have to come back tomorrow.  

[01:36:43] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah, I've heard of that too.  

[01:36:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And there's a couple of places down here   that   yeah. I mean, they make a lot of barbecue, but as soon as it runs out, they shut the doors.   Sorry. We ran out for the day. Come back tomorrow.   And they will have tomorrow,   they will have a fucking line   around the building.   Damn. Waiting to get in   to get barbecue.   And as soon as   and if you're in line and they run out, guess what? They're gonna shut the door.   Sorry. You didn't get hurt early enough in line.  

[01:37:22] Rich Chelson:

Try  

[01:37:23] Duuude-Ron :

again. Try getting them off.   And guess what?   They fucking come back the next day.  

[01:37:31] Rich Chelson:

No. No. Yeah.  

[01:37:33] Duuude-Ron :

And they'll come back earlier   the next day.  

[01:37:38] Rich Chelson:

I'm shocked some of them don't camp out overnight   like they do at concerts and shit.  

[01:37:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Really?  

[01:37:48] Rich Chelson:

No. There's there's a seafood restaurant up here.   The owner, if he runs out of seafood,   he will shut his doors or or or he'll sell what he can.   But that night,   he's on his boat   going out catching his seafood  

[01:38:08] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow.  

[01:38:09] Rich Chelson:

That he cooks. Oh, yeah. He yeah. He   yeah. He freaking goes out at night on his own,   and,   you know, goes goes shrimping   and, catching fish and stuff, and he brings it and cooks it up and serves it.   So, yeah, it's I I haven't eaten there yet. I I need to go eat there. It's it's a very popular place.  

[01:38:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. It's all about it's all about quality,   not   quantity.  

[01:38:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:38:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:38:51] Rich Chelson:

Brian, why are you being so quiet?  

[01:38:54] Bryan Goodwin:

That's a damn Oh, because y'all are talking. Not to mention we got Rich acts or got, Ron actually saying some words. So   yeah.  

[01:39:04] Rich Chelson:

Brian's like, I wanna sit back to this than to this.  

[01:39:08] Duuude-Ron :

It's a it's a rarity. This is only what? How many episodes that we have? And   there's only what? This will be  

[01:39:15] Bryan Goodwin:

number 2 that you actually get to hear my voice. Yeah. Yeah. This is second or third episode.  

[01:39:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That you get to hear my voice other than, you know, a couple of lipids throughout the 3 hours.  

[01:39:30] Bryan Goodwin:

No. It's good. Oh, yeah. It's it's good. It's all good. Oh,  

[01:39:35] Rich Chelson:

I was just actually making sure   you you were still awake.  

[01:39:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. You you you know, I wonder how many,   downloads   of the one that has my voice in it. It   you know, is it   higher, lower than the average rate of what our downloads are? I don't have a clue.   Hell, I don't even know which episodes I've talked in.  

[01:40:05] Rich Chelson:

I'm gonna  

[01:40:06] Duuude-Ron :

say. There's there's been a couple episodes that I ain't been able to say get a word in edgewise.  

[01:40:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:40:13] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But, yeah, but,   which   episodes   that you talked to? I would I would have to go back and listen to the last couple.   Well, last week,   you talked about   talked quite a bit in that one,   and the one before that. So the last 2,  

[01:40:39] Duuude-Ron :

did we get anybody that even downloaded them?  

[01:40:42] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We've got Okay. Normally, we've got a minimum of 6 people every day. Every Yeah. We have we have at least 6 people to download  

[01:40:52] Bryan Goodwin:

our our show every year. So But,  

[01:40:56] Rich Chelson:

now They like us. They really, really like us. I know. Right? Oh my god. It's like   but,   not last week's, but the week before on October 14th, not yelling puzzle glue at drag races.   That was when he was talking about,   cruising the coast and stuff.   Right.   You talked quite a bit in that one.  

[01:41:18] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. You did.  

[01:41:19] Rich Chelson:

And,   and in the first 7 days,   we got 6 downloads.   And since then,   we've picked up 3,   yeah, 3 more since,   let's see. Last week's   we just have the 6 right now.   Now   and I think he talked quite a bit   in the in the, 7th October when   because we yeah. Because we were talking about terminal velocity, that was when we squirreled off   onto all those   baked and,   see a brand was talking about   baked noodles, you know, people's heads.  

[01:42:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Being baked Man, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how that one with the turbo of velocity, I don't know how many fucking rabbit holes we went down that fucking night.  

[01:42:15] Rich Chelson:

Oh, god dang. That was that  

[01:42:18] Duuude-Ron :

We were all fucking squirreling all over the damn place. Yeah. We were in and, honestly,  

[01:42:25] Rich Chelson:

in the first 24 hours   after it dropped, we had our normal 5 downloads. Right?   In 7 days, we had 8 downloads.   And,   after that, we've had 13 downloads total.   So, yeah, that one that one actually was,   kinda popular.  

[01:42:47] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:42:49] Rich Chelson:

C.   Free the boys and let the games begin.   That one, we've got 16 downloads,   after the first drop, which is pretty good. The truck stop dilemma,   we got 17 on that one or or actually 19.   So, I mean, I mean, where?   It's not too bad, really.   Because the last the last 3 or 4,   the last 3, actually,   you really started talking. And,   yeah, there's there's a slight uptick.  

[01:43:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow.   And, not just Maybe maybe one day we'll get a 100.   Just never know.  

[01:43:35] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shit. I just looked   and just, I guess, from the time we started until now,   because I because I looked at the numbers before   we, actually started,   we were at 1152,   and   all time downloads, and we're at 11:74.   And in October,   download so far in October is 238.   So, yeah, we've blown   we've blown   this is our best month   so far   since we started back in April.  

[01:44:14] Duuude-Ron :

Maybe the dude is making a fucking difference.  

[01:44:18] Rich Chelson:

Damn. It's all you, dude.  

[01:44:20] Duuude-Ron :

I I still don't wanna fucking wake up tomorrow morning.  

[01:44:23] Rich Chelson:

Well, you're still going to.  

[01:44:25] Duuude-Ron :

I know because I gotta fucking run Waco, and I gotta fucking run Austin.   However   however,   I saw the pull sheets, and guess what?  

[01:44:36] Rich Chelson:

What?  

[01:44:37] Duuude-Ron :

95%   of both fucking loads   are already pulled.  

[01:44:43] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that's cool.  

[01:44:45] Duuude-Ron :

Nice.   There we go.   That's what I said. So probably when I get up when I get there in the morning, because I'd usually hit there about 7 o'clock   because   I can't get on the road and get to the locations because then I'm gonna block their trucks in. So I have to give them reasonable time   just like any of the locations we go to.   Like, if Waco is my only stop for that day,   I can't be in their yard   before 10:30   because then I'm in the other trucks'   ways for the route trucks   to get their stuff on the trucks and get them out.   So it's not like I can get there and leave, but it yeah. I saw the, pull sheets and yeah.  

90   95% of the load is already pulled. I'm waiting on a couple of cylinders that have to be pumped in the morning   for the Austin load, which is going out first.   And then I got 2 12 packs that have to be pumped for   the Waco load, and then,   that load's done.   So at least when I get back from Austin,   as soon as I get back in the yard, it might take me   45 minutes to get downloaded, reloaded,   counted paperwork, and be back on the road within an hour.   That'll be nice.  

[01:46:21] Rich Chelson:

That'd be real nice.  

[01:46:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because usually that's a 12 hour day.  

[01:46:30] Rich Chelson:

Dang.  

[01:46:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Because most of the time, it's   the stuff ain't pulled.   And Waco is always the last one to get pulled on any given day   because they're the shortest location from us. It's a 45 minute it's a 50 minute drive   where,   like, going to Innis today,   that's 2 and a half hour, one way.   So that load gets pulled first   so that truck can get out the earliest   because it's the furthest away.   Okay. And that and that's why Waco   always gets pulled last because they're the shortest   distance.   But now that we're finally   fully staffed,   you know, we have loaders that that's able to,   you know,   get the cycle of the sorting, the stuff into the pump room,   out of the pump room to the back, to the, you know, where all the full cylinders are at, start pulling the load, you know, and getting it staged for the truck for the next day. So,   yeah, I was kinda shocked when I walked in there today and saw both both sheets and   yeah. Both of them are more than 90% old.  



[01:47:54] Rich Chelson:

Nice.  

[01:47:58] Duuude-Ron :

So that won't be too bad of a day tomorrow.   And then I get to fucking   another 2 days off.   Man, I tell you what. Fucking 5 days off. So at my house, anyway.   Goddamn.   And I got 2 week 2 days off,   next week,   and then a week in November,   and a week in December.   No.   A week and a day in December,   back to back,   and I still will not have touched my sick days.   I'll lose my sick days this year.   Well, I'll lose half my   because I get   40 hours of sick per year,   and I already got a 145   banked.   I can only bank up to a 160   hours.   So I'll lose   35 hours   this year for sick time.  



[01:48:58] Rich Chelson:

Well, why is that?  

[01:49:01] Duuude-Ron :

Because I have the max saved up that I can.  

[01:49:05] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:49:07] Duuude-Ron :

And Okay. All   and all the other days   between all 4 of the drivers trying to get their vacations   completed out before the end of the year,   yeah, we're gonna be short on drivers for the rest of the year,   every week.  

[01:49:26] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:49:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'll be from here till the end of the year,   at least one day a week, I'll be running   2 loads a   day where it's usually one load.  

[01:49:39] Rich Chelson:

Right. Okay.   Well,   jump in with them.   I mean,   freaking freaking take care of your,   hours, man.  

[01:49:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah, man. Don't worry about it. As you can.   Oh, I I'm taking all my vacation and our   all that,   but I'm not I probably won't take any sixties because, you know, I haven't taken sick days in   fucking   3 years.  

[01:50:11] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I'm taking sick days, dude.  

[01:50:15] Duuude-Ron :

I know. And my boss said the same thing.   I see. Oh, I'm calling you back. Morning with a little cough.   I can't come in today. Okay.   Yeah. Not a problem.   Problem. Yep. I know. He's he's we've  

[01:50:30] Rich Chelson:

we've already talked about it. Yeah. You're right. I mean, I mean, it's it's because he knows   you have the time legally to take.   So just I mean,   he ain't gonna shoot it down, so just, you know,   take the time and just cough in the phone. He'd be like, alright. See you tomorrow.  

[01:50:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:50:52] Rich Chelson:

And put Ron sick.  

[01:50:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. And then and then   if that gets out, it's like, fucking Ron sick?   Holy   shit. That ain't happened in fucking years.  

[01:51:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. I'm good. And and see and see the thing is if, if, someone asked you about it, say, oh, yeah, dude. I was I was on the pot all freaking day. That is a conversation killer   if I don't know any better.   That's all you gotta say. I was on the pot from the time I got up to say, I don't wanna hear no more. Thank you very much. I'm   Yeah.   And you can use that line on everybody from the president, the CEO of the company,   all the way fucking down.   I guarantee it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You say if I was on a pot nope. I'm good.   You have a good day. Stay away from me.  



[01:51:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No shit.  

[01:51:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I mean  

[01:51:53] Duuude-Ron :

I didn't take one. I did I never got COVID. Thank god.   Never took one fucking sick day off that whole fucking   pandemic time frame.   Right. Not one day.   However, the Christmas before   COVID hit,   man, I tell you what, I was fucking laid the fuck out with the flu.   Really?   Oh my god.   I can barely get out of bed.  

[01:52:25] Rich Chelson:

You had the pre Rona.   That's what you Yeah.  

[01:52:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're right. I had pre Rona.   Yeah. I had the fucking flu so bad. I could not fucking   I could barely get out of bed.   I mean, I was fucking hurt.  

[01:52:43] Rich Chelson:

You know, there was this year.   You know, there was something   my my uncle sent me,   about a month ago. I I need to look into it more. There is this guy,   I think his name was a doctor   Ben Ardis, a r d I s.   Let's see. I think.   Yeah. I think so. Anyway,   he's saying   that,   during COVID and all like that   and and   overall in general,   people who smoke   cigarettes, you know, know I'm,   I'm not advocating weed here for   for these   people who smoke weed,   you know. For sure.   Uh-huh. Well, or or or while they smoke for sure. Oh, yeah. No. No. I'm not judging. No. No. I'm not judging.  

[01:53:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Knock yourself out and have as much as you want.  

[01:53:49] Rich Chelson:

But but he   he was saying people   people who smoke cigarettes   and I don't know if I fully believe this.   It was it was like a natural vaccine for COVID  

[01:54:06] Duuude-Ron :

because That were   that was less likely to get COVID. Yeah.   And and I would believe that.  

[01:54:16] Rich Chelson:

And he,   he, he has said a few other things   about about people who smoke. Oh, he said in 1994,   and I I need to verify this. This is not verified by me.   But he said that that he   read something, and I could probably look it up with uncle Google here,   that the big   that the big tobacco companies   went to the FDA   and all signed a letter   saying nicotine was not addictive.   Nicotine itself was not addictive.   It's all the other chemicals the FDA   allows   to be put into cigarettes is what is addictive.   Yeah. Proteus.   And the FDA   wouldn't agree with that.  

But you see and that's the thing he was saying.   You see,   we all don't believe it because   we've been force fed, and,   nicotine is addictive.   So you see, I don't know. I'm not I'm not saying it is or or it isn't.   You know? Because he said something there's, like, over 500 different chemicals that are put into cigarettes. Now I don't know if that's true or not either.   So  

[01:55:36] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. There's, yeah, there's more   chemicals than just nicotine than tobacco. Yeah. Without a doubt.   But I have no doubt. I have yeah. And it's it's in it's over a 100.   Yeah. When the with the growing process and all that other stuff. Yeah. All those herbicides, pesticides,   iodize,   all the eye, you know,   all that shit is in the fucking tobacco. Yeah.  

[01:56:05] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:56:07] Duuude-Ron :

You know? So,   I believe that that there's   there's over a 100 chemicals total in, you know,   in a cigarette, but nicotine is the   the addictive one.   Nor did you see that? Fucking crack.  

[01:56:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, you see, that's the thing. Okay.   Oh,   what about people who smoked actual tobacco? I'm talking who grew the tobacco,   dried the tobacco,   shredded their own tobacco, and smoked that.   That's got nicotine in it. This, doctor is also saying there's there's other foods,   like,   foods that are grown   that has,   nicotine in them.   So  

[01:57:03] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:57:05] Rich Chelson:

So, you see, I don't know. You know? I'm not I'm not and and, you see, that's why that's why,   you know, our   it was a video he sent me, and I watched it   and,   everything. And,   you know, some of the stuff, I was like, wow. That's crazy.   You know, I didn't know that.   But,   you know, that, it but addicted to all the eens.  

[01:57:32] Duuude-Ron :

I'm addicted to all the ins.  

[01:57:35] Rich Chelson:

All of it. Nicotine.  

[01:57:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. Nicotine,   caffeine.   Yeah.   All those.  

[01:57:46] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Yeah. I'm not I'm not saying it is or it is it probably is, but yet again,   if if these other vegetables and stuff   have nicotine in them,   why aren't we all vegans then?   You know?  

[01:58:08] Duuude-Ron :

Hell, I don't know.  

[01:58:10] Bryan Goodwin:

And, Ron, all I can keep thinking about on that is is you got, you got nicotine,   caffeine,   but you didn't you you forgot the best one of all.  

[01:58:20] Duuude-Ron :

I'm sure I did.  

[01:58:24] Rich Chelson:

What's that? Poutine.  

[01:58:29] Bryan Goodwin:

You don't know what do you know what poutine is?   Poutine.  

[01:58:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Yeah.  

[01:58:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Poutine   is, it's a it's a Canadian meat food   that they like to eat, but what it is is take you take French fries, you put brown gravy on it and and cheese curds on it.  

[01:58:48] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, then no. I was thinking something completely different. You were thinking of poutine.  

[01:58:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me too.  

[01:58:55] Duuude-Ron :

Alright. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No.   No. No. No. No.   No. No. No.  

[01:59:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Poutine. Poutine. Well, it's a food, man. You you well, you well, you eat poontang also, but you I was gonna say poontang  

[01:59:13] Rich Chelson:

is a food. It's just it's just not   nourishing,   but it's so much it's so good, though.  

[01:59:23] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, when my breath is get an angry email.   Yeah. We can hope. You know? Please send us an angry email.  

[01:59:32] Bryan Goodwin:

I said, I hope. Let's please, please send us an angry email.  

[01:59:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That way we know we're gonna piss somebody off.  

[01:59:43] Rich Chelson:

Right.   I mean, damn, we've only been trying for 6 months.  

[01:59:48] Duuude-Ron :

No shit.  

[01:59:49] Rich Chelson:

Everyone just laughs at us quietly behind our backs.  

[01:59:54] Duuude-Ron :

Well, at least they're they're laughing instead of stabbing. Right? Well, true. True. You got a point.   However, I did vote for, convicted criminal the other day.   Yay.   I'm I'm not gonna mention any names, but he is a convicted criminal.   Not just a criminal like they all are.   Yeah.   Lesser are the 2 evil these days.   Yeah. We'll see how we'll see how far that goes.   I'm just waiting for our fucking economy to fucking   crash and do another fucking,   what was it? 19   when did the, Wall Street crash?   32?  

[02:00:45] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:00:46] Duuude-Ron :

When was the Wall Street crash? Yeah. Was that I think 32?  

[02:00:51] Rich Chelson:

29? Blank.  

[02:00:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Back in 29?   We're go we're fixing to have the same damn shit happen   again.  

[02:01:03] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. I honest well, okay. Okay.   Leading into that,   actually, that's that's because, I had I had read something the other day.   And,   you know, we   we, we are purposely   trying not to talk   too much politics and Yeah. Shit going on. But this here,   apparently, Russia   is having their own summit with other countries   trying to   make a new currency and all like this and Yeah. It's the BRICS.   Yeah. The BRICS. And and I've also read that where North Korea   and and the people of North Korea jumped on this shit.   Kim Jong Un was was   a little hesitant, but this is the first time people in North Korea have have have been out in the world because   North Korea sent, like, something like 5 or 6000 soldiers   to, fight for the Russians   because Russia was having such a problem getting people to sign up for military service.  



[02:02:11] Duuude-Ron :

And, who are they fighting there? In Ukraine?   Yes. Or Really?   Yes.  

[02:02:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   And,   yeah, and I was like, what? And so I, you know,   so   so I read a couple articles.   And,   I think in the first, like,   3, 4 days, they had 18 soldier North Korean soldiers,   like, just run away   because they were scared. Okay. Because this this is the first time North Korea has ever been in a fight.   They've trained.   They've done war games and shit like this, but they've never fought.  

[02:02:53] Duuude-Ron :

Since since the Korean War?  

[02:02:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Since   Yeah. Yeah. You know, since the fifties.   So Yep. You know you know, all these all these people here, you know, and   so, yeah, they're they're scared and actually looking   there's a a news thing right now that's saying,   the US says North Korean troops, fair game if they're deployed to fight in Ukraine.   So I don't know. We'll see how far that goes. But   but, yeah, I I read that. I had to read it again because I'm like,   you mean, seriously, Putin   can't get enough Russians   to fight his war?   You know, it's like,   what does that say about Putin?  



[02:03:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, I know. Yeah.  

[02:03:41] Rich Chelson:

And see, that's the thing. And and when I saw something about the BRICS,   you know, I, you know, read up on that. And   the way it sounds,   the BRICS   will be something like NATO.   It's just with the off countries that that   NATO won't let in.   So, you know, Putin was like, oh, hell. We'll just make our own club over here.  

[02:04:07] Duuude-Ron :

Oh,   Well and cryptocurrency   is, you know,  

[02:04:16] Bryan Goodwin:

is doing Oh, yeah. But yeah. BRICS is is,   is the, means of of of currency,   exchange,   kinda like SWIFT is for America,   Canada, and Europe.   They have the whole SWIFT system. And whenever Russia invaded,   Ukraine, they kicked Russia off of SWIFT.   And so Russia was not able to convert,   their money into   American dollars or   Swiss francs or, you know, whatever.   And so,   they've gotten together with,   with,   Brazil,   India,   China,  

[02:05:00] Duuude-Ron :

North Korea,  

[02:05:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Iran,   India.   Say it's   Pakistan.   And  

[02:05:10] Duuude-Ron :

Never even heard of SWIFT   other than the trucking company.  

[02:05:16] Bryan Goodwin:

See what I fucked up today?  

[02:05:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Let's see. Brazil, Russia, India, China,   South Africa,   Iran, Egypt,   Ethiopia,   and UAB.   United Arab Emirates, UAE.  

[02:05:37] Duuude-Ron :

UAE. Yeah. United Arab Emirates. So  

[02:05:41] Rich Chelson:

so yeah.   Yeah. That's not good because   the the, UAE   is where we buy most of our fucking oil from.   Yeah. This is I I don't know. I had just saw this the other day and and, you know,   read the article and, you know, read 1 or 2 other articles, and I'm just like,   oh my god. Here we go.   You know, I mean,   here we go.   And and and, actually, bricks, it says,   BRICS was   formed in 2009,   but they just held their first summit,   the other day.   Did we lose everybody?  

[02:06:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope. Nope. No. I'm just I'm sitting here reading the stuff on bricks.  

[02:06:42] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   So   But yeah. No. This this is just yeah. No. It just got off of that damn quiet real quick, and I'm just like, hey now.  

[02:06:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Just like the last time   when I was the only one here,   and I was talking to myself and everybody else was gone. It's like, oh, what the hell happened here? Oh, hello.  

[02:07:07] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. Hey. I mean, it it  

[02:07:10] Duuude-Ron :

We just stopped listening to you.  

[02:07:13] Rich Chelson:

Right. Okay. Well, no. That's cool. Hey. At least you're honest, man. At least you're honest.   No. It just it just it just freaking caught me when,   well, well, when I read that first article about about North Korea,   you know, going to fight with the Russians. I'm like, no way.   Ain't no freaking way.   Yeah. Sure shit.  

[02:07:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'm surprised he even let him out of the country.  

[02:07:41] Rich Chelson:

Me too. Me too. Period.  

[02:07:44] Duuude-Ron :

Period.  

[02:07:45] Rich Chelson:

Things must be really, really bad in North Korea if Kim Jong Un   let his people out of the country.   Yep.   So, I mean, honestly.   So I I mean, I don't know, but   but, yeah, that's,   I don't know. We'll see we'll see what happens.  

[02:08:08] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you look at the satellites when it goes around the world.   The darkest spot in, Asia.   It's the whole country of North Korea.  

[02:08:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:08:18] Duuude-Ron :

At night. Yep.  

[02:08:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. It's,   well, I can see that on my on my hand clock because I've got the world, like, flattened out. You know? Oh, yeah. And and it and   one of the overlays is the gray line.   And at night, it's funny because   it'll show you,   like like like right now, it it's it's dark over here.   But if you look at the eastern half of the US, it's all lit up   with Yeah. With with white dots   because of all the light coming off of it. And Yeah. And if you look west, it gets darker and darker and darker. It's cool as shit, actually.   And then and then when it goes over by Japan and, you know, on over past the west,   you can see, you know, Japan lit up,   you know, at night because of all the lights they have and everything. It's and and I can see it right here on this screen. It's cool as shit.  

So  

[02:09:25] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, it's all of North Korea is black.  

[02:09:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:09:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that happens when you don't pay your electric bill.  

[02:09:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're right.  

[02:09:38] Rich Chelson:

Or   or the dictator just   throws the switch and shuts everything off.  

[02:09:44] Duuude-Ron :

No shit.   No shit. There's a couple of,   shows I've seen about North Korea and they got they have roads.   They ain't got no cars.  

[02:09:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, the party has cars,   but,   and they're all Yeah. The top waffers. Yeah. I forget what it is. They're either all Volvos or all Audis   because Audi they actually were   had made a deal with Audi that,   they would buy, you know, like, 500 cars   or something like that. And so Audi sent them the cars, and then they reneged and never paid their bill. So  

[02:10:25] Duuude-Ron :

Really? Yeah.   Yes. The top one per one percent of the top 1% are the only ones that have cars.  

[02:10:35] Rich Chelson:

Well, you see, that's the thing. Kim Jong Un   controls all that. So   he's he's the top 1 percent of the top 1%.  

[02:10:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Of the top 1 percent.  

[02:10:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I mean,   anyone else under him,   they only have that while he's happy with them.  

[02:10:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Moment they I mean Moment they fart, let out a stinky fart and he finds it offensive. They're all of a sudden they've disappeared.  

[02:11:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They're Yeah. Just like yeah. He had his uncle,   assassinated.  

[02:11:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:11:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:11:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Had his parents assassinated, didn't he? No. Because his parents was, Kim Jong Un   or Kim Jong il.  

[02:11:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I thought I thought I thought he,  

[02:11:22] Duuude-Ron :

I will. They they just they just died of natural causes,   but he had his uncle   assassinated because he disagreed with his,   something about his policy.   Yeah. Right. And he just just disappeared and found out that   he had   ordered the assassination.  

[02:11:43] Bryan Goodwin:

And what's interesting about that whole assassination   are the people who actually committed the assassination   didn't realize it was an assassination.  

[02:11:53] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[02:11:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   It was   part they thought they were part of the,   of a it it it was during the time when you start you saw a whole bunch of oriental,   practical   joke videos   showing up on, like, Facebook and YouTube and stuff like that.   And they're usually, like, really, really dumb stupid types of stuff. But anyhow, one of them was   they had, they and what they would do is they would hire   a group of, like, 2 or 3 girl, girls or or people   to and most most of the time, they're girls,   but would hire them so that they could and they would practice this this routine, this this practical joke over and over and over   until they got it done. And then they would be told, alright. Well, you're gonna do it. Do this.  

And,   and this, these   these folks,   they got together, they practiced, and then one day, they were told, alright. We're gonna be doing the practical joke today. We're going to the, airport, and,   and, they would and they were told to keep a lookout for,   for this particular target,   and,   that's who they're supposed to play the practical joke on. They played the practical joke on him, and, apparently, he actually gave him,   what was he poisoned with? I think   Sarin gas or not Sarin. It's some type of some type of nerve agent.   And, they had on, like, the rag or something like that and and,   used it on him. And, yeah. Yeah. Went off and killed him.  

Oh. Didn't even realize they were gonna be killing the guy, and they got arrested and all that. And they're like,   they were they were 8 ways as shocked. But yeah. Yeah. That was the, kind of the   the crux behind the, the whole,   assassination   is they didn't even have foreign agents doing the assassination. They just they just had a couple of kids who were trying to get famous.  

[02:13:59] Rich Chelson:

That is crazy.   Oh, they got famous alright.  

[02:14:05] Bryan Goodwin:

See if I can tell you who that was.  

[02:14:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. That that see, that just   I'm  

[02:14:13] Duuude-Ron :

sure they disappeared.   I'm sure they disappeared too.  

[02:14:19] Rich Chelson:

Right. It's very possible.   Very possible.   But   I don't know. Some of the stuff I've read about North Korea, they keep everything so hush-hush   even from the people at Sun Ring. And I read this I read this a while back, long time ago, that,   believe it or not,   one of the best jobs for women   in North Korea   is a gas station attendant.   And the reason why   is is   because every gas station in North Korea   has to be in tip top shape, have the best people,   the best girls, and all like that because   no one ever knows when Kim Jong un   will show up.  

And and   and if he likes one of the gas station girls,   he can just look at her and say, get in the car.   And then she's his.   And that's that's why they work at,   at a gas station.  

[02:15:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:15:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay. Here here's, some of the information. The assassination of Kim, Kim Jong un   is,   it is who it was. This is, his uncle. But,   yeah. Following his, visit to the resort island of, Lan Kwai,   Kim Jong Nam   arrived at terminal 2 sometimes before 9 AM, to take the 10:50 AM air Asia flight to, Macau.   At approximately 9 AM, 2 women sprayed Kim, Kim Jong Nam with the VX nerve agent. They died about 15, 20 minutes later while being transported to the hospital.   The women were identified as, Sitsi Asaya from Indonesia   and Don Thi Hong from Vietnam. Both were charged with murder for Kim Jong Nam. The murder charges were eventually dropped when it was found that they were unknowingly   used for assassination.  

Although,   Hong pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of voluntary causing hurt by dangerous weapons   or means and received a sentence about 3 years 4 months. She was released from prison on May of 2019.   It's widely believed that Kim Jong Nam was murdered on the orders of Kim Jong Un. 4,   4 North Korean suspects   later confirmed to spies, left the airport shortly after the assassination   and reached Pyongyang without being arrested.   Other North Koreans were arrested but were released without charge.  

[02:16:57] Rich Chelson:

Oh my gosh.   Talk about conspiracy.   That's funny.   Well, it's not funny, but it's it's it's it's Yeah. Well, it you're definitely leaves you gobsmacked.   Yeah. It does. You know? I mean   yeah, that's just, man, that's just crazy.  

[02:17:25] Duuude-Ron :

It's amazing how,   people can get away with shit with, you know,   in the world.  

[02:17:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.   Absolutely. It's wild.  

[02:17:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That that just still that just still kinda blows my mind.  

[02:17:48] Duuude-Ron :

Well, look at what,   Germany in the thirties.  

[02:17:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. No. It it yeah. It's yeah. It's not just North Korea. I mean, I mean, it's the whole world.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's just you know, it's crazy though when you hear something about it because, you know,   normally, we don't hear anything about stuff like this. You know?   I don't I I say that's the thing. I mean, this is something I don't normally think about.  

[02:18:28] Duuude-Ron :

So yeah. Yeah. You're right.   You know, if it ain't in my little bubble of the world,   you know,   I just you know, I don't watch the news.   Too much Right. Bullshit going on in the news. And if it   all ain't in my little bubble of the world and doesn't affect me, you know, I'm not gonna even worry about it.   Well, that's true. Because there I'm here. Because there because there ain't shit I'm gonna be able to do.   Precisely.   Yeah. And   like me and,   Rich were talking the other night, if I   if I won the lottery   by the 1st part of next year,   I would be working up in the Appalachians.  

Finish up what I have to do in my life here and then,   you know,   go help them at Chimney Rock and,   Biltmore   Estates area  

[02:19:29] Bryan Goodwin:

and just Sell them $1   not not can't do grilled cheese because, well, you know, he's got that one, got that one all all all copyrighted stuff. So, you know Sell $1 hot dogs. $1 hot dogs. There you go. Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:19:46] Duuude-Ron :

And and and Well, in the yesterday. He can't really have that he can really have that copyrighted.   You know? He can have all the slogans,   but a dollar grilled cheese, you know, that's not a copyright.  

[02:20:01] Rich Chelson:

The name, he could.   Yeah.   Yeah. The name, if it's grilled cheese, it can be copyrighted.  

[02:20:09] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know what? I'll spell cheese, c h e e z e.  

[02:20:15] Rich Chelson:

Cheese. Okay. There you go. Okay. There you go. There you go. That's good. But anyway,  

[02:20:21] Duuude-Ron :

I would you know, it's not that hard to learn how to drive a skid steer or a fucking front end loader or   grader.   And I go to the app fuck Appalachians and just offer my services   because them guys are getting shit done.  

[02:20:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:20:44] Duuude-Ron :

Just   with the people in the community.  

[02:20:50] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, that's that's what,   you know, I've learned, you know,   talking to people down here,   you know, when they've had hurricanes and stuff like this down here.   You know?   Yeah. FEMA sends their money like like FEMA's supposed to, Homeland Security and all like that.   But, mostly,   it's the people down here   working with each other and helping each other   rebuild. Yep. You know what I mean?   And and Yep. I mean but,   you know, go   go somewhere else. And I'm not I'm not saying it don't happen in other parts of the country,   but it's not as prevalent,   I don't think.  



[02:21:33] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Well, not it's not prevalent. It sure the hell ain't prevalent in big cities.   It's all small communities   and   Right. You know, Chimney Rock is a very, very small community.   And   the outlying areas, yeah, those people are gonna help each other because   they're not getting shit from   anybody else.   But, you know,   that's what I would do.   Go offer my services and,   you know,   help out as best I could.  

[02:22:14] Rich Chelson:

Well, that's the best thing to do.  

[02:22:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   You know?   I well, and shit. I got,   what, 3,000   but 3,000   plus hours   with Habitat for Humanity.   You know, I may not be able to,   you know,   give a $100,000,   but I got over 3   deer hours with Habitat for Humidity.   Habitat   over the years.   30 32 houses I helped build.  

[02:22:55] Rich Chelson:

That's cool.   See, that's Hey, Bill. To that. It it it   it doesn't really matter your skill set. If you have a skill, it's great. If you don't, trust me. There's there's a lot of other jobs   that that all jobs   help the end product.   Just like just like the military,   all jobs help the soldiers on the front lines.   All jobs help help the military get the job done, and that's what a lot of people do not understand.  

[02:23:31] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, you're if you don't have your supply chain,   you ain't getting any beans, bullets, or   or anything else to the frontline.  

[02:23:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Being Nope.  

[02:23:43] Duuude-Ron :

And it's all it'll come to a fucking crashing   vault   real quick.   You know? If you don't have beans, bolts, and fuel.  

[02:23:54] Rich Chelson:

Well, and and, if you don't have the people in the office,   make sure the paperwork's right so everyone gets their paycheck,   you ain't got shit. So Yeah. That's true too. I mean, you know, that's why that's why I say   every job   helps the end goal. And and and and it's more than just the military. It's it's companies.   It's it's life.   You know?  

[02:24:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   You know, and with my time that I've done with Habitat, it's like, okay.   I have a skill set of being able to do, you know, minor construction.   Now they   they had the professionals come in   and do the foundation   or laying of   this, all the plumbing,   the electrical,   the foundation   was all, you know,   licensed   individuals.   The framing,   insulation,   sheet rock,   roof, all that stuff was all done by volunteers.   But the one thing that I like about   well, in this area's Habitat for Humanity when I do the,   the director of the 4 Hood,   area Habitat for Humanity.  

And a lot of them do this with Habitat.   If you are the recipient   of the house   or of a house   before they pour your foundation,   that homeowner has to have   3,000   no.   Yeah. 3000   volunteer hours   before they will pour their foundation.  

[02:25:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[02:25:43] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, they have to volunteer   with, you know, the current house that is going up. And this area, they only have one house going up at any one given time,   just because the economics and the volunteers that they're able to get. Right. But   the next person,   you   better the next recipient, you better be on the one that's being constructed,   or   they'll pull your application and give it to somebody else that's gonna come out and volunteer   to help build that house. But I also was able   to volunteer   my volunteer   hours   to that homeowner   for them to get their 3000 hours.  

But that's what I like about Habitat is if you are a recipient,   you're gonna help build houses before your foundation is poured, and you're gonna help build your own house.   You will be on the job site every Saturday. If you're gonna have volunteers there,   the homeowner better be on-site.   Even if they're   if fucking handing out   water,   If they don't have any construction ability, if they're just handing out water,   as long as they're on the site.   And that's the way Jean did it,   which I thought was excellent. The only one   that   was not there for probably about 80%   of the construction   of her house   is she was a single parent of 3 kids,   and   she had to work,   you know, her job   every Saturday. I I don't remember what it was,   but she was at work   on the Saturdays.  

That is the only reason why she was excused from being on the site,   for her house.   Now I can understand that, you know, yeah, I wanna want a house, but if I'm gonna lose my job, what is the fucking point?   So she was the only one that   was not there for a majority of the build because she was at work every Saturday, but she was a single parent of 3. Real nice lady.   So,   yeah, those were   some of my days.  

[02:28:17] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:28:19] Duuude-Ron :

And for a second there, I thought I was gonna have to be like Rich and say, is anybody there?  

[02:28:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Is anybody out there?  

[02:28:28] Rich Chelson:

No. We were anybody out there? We were just mesmerized by the dude's voice.  

[02:28:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Bullshit.   Man,   if you're gonna tell me some lies, tell me some fucking really big lies. Well, that's a really big lie.   You ain't mesmerized   by my fucking voice.   The only thing that you're mesmerized   by my voice, and I trust me. When I was an instructor,   there was not one class,   the 3 years that I was   instructed in the military,   that I did not have at least one student that says instructor has monotone voice.   Yeah. You're you're   mesmerized   by my voice because I was putting your fucking ass to sleep.   Right.   That's probably why I have so many downloads   is because people fucking put,   you know, my conversation on at night. It's like, damn. That's something to fucking put my ass to sleep.  



[02:29:29] Rich Chelson:

And it just keeps playing and playing and playing. Hey. Hell, yeah, man.  

[02:29:34] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, talk to me. So many fucking that's probably why I get so many downloads.   Right. Right. Putting their headphones in at night just to get to sleep. Yeah. That motherfucker got them on its own voice.   That's what they're doing.  

[02:29:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I got it. I got y'all figured out. Waking up refreshed in the morning because the dude lulled them to sleep?  

[02:29:56] Bryan Goodwin:

You're helping millions of people out already.   See, dude?  

[02:30:01] Rich Chelson:

That is cool.   Oh, shit.  

[02:30:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And I got my watch I got my watch about 8 feet in the air.   You say save the watch because shit getting deep.  

[02:30:20] Rich Chelson:

I I was gonna say, when you said you had your watch 8 feet in the air, and I I'm just   trying to picture that. It's not working out too well here.  

[02:30:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, let's see. I'm 6 foot tall. If I put my arm up in the air above my head,   that's about 2 feet. So 8 feet in the air.  

[02:30:39] Rich Chelson:

Save the walk. Longer than 2 feet, dude. I guarantee you that.  

[02:30:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   By the time it's, you know, my at my wrist where the watch is at. Like I said,  

[02:30:52] Rich Chelson:

shit about 31, 32 in long inch long arms.  

[02:30:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So   save the watch because the shit getting deep around here.   Damn.   You know you know, Rich, your asshole has got to be fucking jealous as the amount of shit that comes out your mouth.  

[02:31:11] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. It's not jealous. I just Not jealous. 3, 4 times a day.   Seriously.   Some days, it's even more than that. Drives me up a wall too   because I'd be I'd be I'd be enjoying my cup of coffee in the morning   out on the front porch, doing some front porch shit and drinking my coffee, smoking a cigarette.   All of a sudden, it's like, uh-oh.  

[02:31:37] Duuude-Ron :

I'll promise. You do you do realize yeah. You do realize that was a definite TMI.  

[02:31:44] Rich Chelson:

You started the conversation,   dude.   So I you know, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna share.   You know? I'm sharing my feelings. You   know? I I don't I don't have a therapist. Y'all are my therapist.  

[02:32:00] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god.   Brian.   Brian.  

[02:32:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:32:07] Duuude-Ron :

We're gonna have to fucking   shit some fucking funds   because if we're his therapist,   man, this dude is   fucked  

[02:32:18] Bryan Goodwin:

beyond Yeah. Man, this is gonna be so hard and fucking with him.  

[02:32:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's That's probably why he needs a therapist.   Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. But if you're using office therapy, you're fucked, brother.   You are fucked.   Well, thank you. Are not going to laugh with you ever.   We will never ever laugh with you. Why?   Because we're too busy laughing at you.   Right.  

[02:32:50] Rich Chelson:

So   Well, that don't that don't really hurt my feelings.  

[02:32:56] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you're yeah. You're like me. You got no fucking feelings.  

[02:32:59] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:33:00] Duuude-Ron :

So you can't hurt anything you you don't have. I've got one.   No. That's your nerve. And that I'm fucking stomping all over that motherfucker with golf dudes.   Now you're feeling that you have one of, it's your nerves.   You got one nerve.  

[02:33:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, silly.  

[02:33:21] Duuude-Ron :

I'll stomp on that motherfucker with golf shoes.   Oh, I bet you would. Problem with it. Yeah. Hell, yeah. I would.   And laugh at you every fucking every time I step.   Right. Because we're not laughing with you. It's at you.   Yeah.   Why? Because we can.   And me and Rich would fucking   laugh at Brian same way.   You and Brian would laugh at me same way.   Well, that's right. Not laughing. We're not laughing with you. We're laughing at you, motherfucker.   You fell down on your face.  

[02:34:00] Rich Chelson:

And We'd love on you. Hell, yeah. And then and then ask if he is okay.   After we got done rolling on the ground beside you.  

[02:34:11] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, then you would you wouldn't ask then   because after you got done fucking rolling on the ground, you'd get up and start taking pictures.  

[02:34:19] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. Are you in After the pictures.  

[02:34:23] Duuude-Ron :

After the pictures, you do video.   And then you might say, get the fuck up, dumbass. We ain't gonna fucking help you.  

[02:34:34] Rich Chelson:

No. I went to this morning.   I went to physical therapy today, and,   the dude at at physical therapy,   he   put my neck in this little thing,   and it stretched my neck. I mean, it pulled it up.   It it's weird.   And,  

[02:34:57] Duuude-Ron :

he was Did he do it, or was it mechanically?  

[02:35:02] Rich Chelson:

No. It was it was a machine. It was a machine. Okay.   And, and it it was it was weird. It it it it, you know, I   yeah. It it it wasn't a very strong   pressure or nothing because at first, I guess he was doing it. He's like, how's that feel? And I'm like,   feel what? I don't feel shit, dude.   He's like, alright. Hang on. Let me turn it up a little more. So he turned it   up. I did too. He he turned it up. I'm like, oh, I okay.   Now I feel Oh. Oh.   Right.   Well, well, the thing is   uh-huh.  

[02:35:43] Duuude-Ron :

Did it   and what all he's doing is relieving the pressure,   you know,   in between the discs. Did it did it seem like it reduced   any of, like, any nerve   pinching or anything like that?  

[02:36:01] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It kinda   lightened things up a little bit. It's it's I mean   I mean,   when I left there, I I felt   I felt   kinda good,   and I still feel   okay,   but I Right. I can start I can start feeling my neck,   you know, doing its thing again. So Tight tightening up? Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. And yeah. And this is what normally happens.   You know, physical therapy lets me feel good for a little bit,   and then   later   that day or the next day is is, you know, I'm back to   where I was   and everything. Yeah.   The, dude was talking about   putting my back into,   like, traction.  

Mhmm. Like like like putting, like, stuff around me   and then stretching my back. And I looked at him. I said, you do that, and I'll come off the fucking table at you.   You are not gonna trap me like that. No way.   He just looked at me. He's like, alright, dude. I ain't gonna do it. I said, don't you even think about it.   I said, I'll come off that fucking table. I can't. I   can't be strapped down like that. I will go berserk.  

[02:37:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Exactly. It's not it's not   what he's trying to do as the end result.   It's what he has to do   to get you there   with strapping you down.  

[02:37:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And, no, I won't I won't be no. I I no. There is no way I'll be strapped down.  

[02:37:48] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. Same way with me. It ain't fucking happening.  

[02:37:52] Rich Chelson:

And and, I mean, I mean, I wasn't I wasn't an ass, but   he could tell by the look on my face when I said, I'll come up off that table.   And he's like, alright, dude.   I ain't gonna   I ain't gonna ask again. I said, thank you.   Yeah. It's just   you know, my and and, you know, my neck, when I put my neck in in this in this machine and everything,   he had to put a strap over my head, and and he didn't put it real, real tight.   It was just there just to hold my   head into place so it wouldn't flop. You know? And he's like   he was even cautious with that. He's like he's like, you know, he's like, is that okay? I'm like, yeah. It's alright. Because   it it was it was it was tight enough to hold my head in, but loose enough to where I could slip out of it.  



[02:38:44] Duuude-Ron :

Right. You know? So And you had it you had it around the back of your neck and up underneath your chin. It was just trying to relieve the pressure and stretch out your muscles. Oh, no.  

[02:38:59] Rich Chelson:

Strap. The strap just went went over my forehead.   There was there was a little v,   headed v thing where my neck   went went,   laid in right under my skull, I guess.   Okay. And and he   rolled it up to where it snugged it up.   You know, my neck kinda   it wasn't pinched in there, but it was it was just held in there.   Okay. I got you. And then the strap was was just placed over my head, so so it would stay in one place. But as I said, it was loose enough to where yeah. It feels real bad I could slip right out of it.   You know? But   I was cool with it.  

But yeah. So so yeah. As far as   the back traction thing,   yeah. Yeah. If I didn't have that phobia, I'd probably try it. But yeah. No.   Yeah. We don't do that.   I don't care what you do, but  

[02:40:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Not that. But not that.  

[02:40:07] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.   Not that.  

[02:40:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I got it. Well, maybe one day, I'll be able to get the they have an inversion   machine to where you can put,   straps around your ankles and then basically hang yourself upside down   and take the, you know, the weight off your   back.  

[02:40:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I've, yeah, I've seen them on TV and, yeah, I don't   I don't know.   It just doesn't   it just doesn't look comfortable to me.  

[02:40:42] Duuude-Ron :

Man, if I could do that and just get my back, papa, I'd be a happy motherfucker.   Right.   Right. Yeah. Yeah. More more of a snap, crack, and pop. Yeah. Because I used to be able to pop my back and oh, yeah. I'd get a whole freaking   bowl of rice krispies out of my back, but I can't do it anymore.  

[02:41:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Like I said, I've seen I've I've seen the,   you know, I've seen it on TV when   people have done and I just I I just I don't I can't see how that's comfortable.  

[02:41:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, they're only in it for about   a minute or so.  

[02:41:27] Rich Chelson:

But you see that's  

[02:41:29] Duuude-Ron :

all, you know, for a few minutes because that's all your head would be able to take with the the rush of blood.   You know? But to be able to do that and twist a little bit and pop my back,   man, that would be fucking   that would be great.  

[02:41:46] Rich Chelson:

But see, the thing is is I'll get a belly, and if I did that, my belly would be trying to go down to my chin.   Now   it it it might bring my pecs back up   where they should be instead of,   you know, my pecs drooping.   You know? So it it might be a plus there, but, you know, I don't know. I'm scared to try it.  

[02:42:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Oh, I gotcha.   Yeah. And you don't need to have a 6 pack anyway.   Well, no. We got it. But We got we know. We have we have pony kegs, so we have more value.   Come on. You know? I get it. Pony kegs. But  

[02:42:29] Rich Chelson:

but see, the thing is thing is my chest has dropped down to my belly,   and maybe flipping upside down   would bring my chest back up. You know? It would it would even me out, maybe. Who knows?  

[02:42:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You just never know.   It might take the out of your face too.  

[02:42:49] Rich Chelson:

Might take the what?  

[02:42:51] Duuude-Ron :

Wrinkles out of your face too.  

[02:42:53] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   I'd really be a sexy mofo.  

[02:43:00] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you can   talk all that to somebody else besides me and Brian.   You know? Talk talk that y'all go to the bar and talk that shit. You know? Hey. You was the one that said help you. But You was the one that said something about the,  

[02:43:16] Rich Chelson:

wrinkles coming out of my mouth. So  

[02:43:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I didn't say you were gonna be sexy.  

[02:43:23] Rich Chelson:

Well, no. I did.   I mean,   I'm sexy now. I would just be even more sexy.   I'd be a chick pig. Hell.   Raise up both arms, dude. Shit's getting really deep.  

[02:43:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You would be a chick magnet, alright, with the re with reverse polarity.   What kind of magnet did you be?  

[02:43:52] Rich Chelson:

Oh, hey. I got it. About that.   I got it. Flip me up. What?   Flip me upside down.   Let everything settle. Take a picture of me.   I'll rotate it a 180 degrees and use it as as as a   Facebook picture.  

[02:44:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I like  

[02:44:14] Rich Chelson:

That just popped into my head. I'm sorry.  

[02:44:16] Duuude-Ron :

And, you know, the disappointment   that you have   once they saw the reality,   man, that would just be   yeah.  

[02:44:28] Rich Chelson:

I would just stand them on their head. See?  

[02:44:31] Duuude-Ron :

There well, there you go.   There you go. You do that.   Yeah.   Again, you know, shit getting deep around here.   You is right.   You is absolutely right.   Man, you're gonna have to start crawling in the fucking attic or up on your roof.  

[02:44:54] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right.  

[02:44:57] Duuude-Ron :

And then put your arm up to raise the watch up.   Yeah.   Anyway, yeah, we got about 10 minutes. So   Yeah.  

[02:45:11] Bryan Goodwin:

So alright.   So, guys, I wanna say thanks so so much for taking the time out of your busy day to come by and have a listen to what   3 guys typically will do   when we live our life intentionally, when we take the time to   be a part   of each other's   life   at least once a week.   And these are things that all of what all of us men can do.   You don't have to have a huge group. A bigger group is better, but when it comes to podcasting, you know, it's a little easier just to to   keep a small group. So we kinda went with 3 heads, one brains model.   And so we we've got the our chance to   to come in   and see how everybody's doing. Sometimes me and Rich talk, talk a whole lot, then there's other times where Rich and and the dude, they get to have a chance to yabber for a while.  

And as you could see, this is one of those weeks where I I got to rest my vocal cords. So   so anyhow so guys, I wanna say thanks for listening. This show is a value for value show.   That means that   you find any type of value from the show.   You can repay us however way you like. You can give us, value in   in, in money we have the we're fixing to have the, the funding tag set up so that all you have to do is hit the, hit the funding button, and,   and then you'll be taken over to the PayPal site. You can also go to value for value.   Go to   2 grumpy vets.com.  

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[02:49:53] Rich Chelson:

Oh, not too much. Just just   again,   thanks to everyone that that listens and comes back for more and downloads our back catalog. We just freaking love it. And,   Yeah.   Just just keep listening and share this out. And, you know, if you wanna reach out and help with chapter arc because I'm not I'm not good at it. Brian's busy. He's not good at it too well either. He's actually better than I am now.   But, yeah, we we could have,   you know, we've got a lot of stuff that that, yeah, we could really,   have some help with if y'all wanna reach out. And   you can reach out to me at [email protected],   brian@[email protected],   and,   we'd be happy to have you   and everything. And,   hell, Brian's got a side business he could use help with. So reach out to either one of us and, you know,   you know, if you wanna help and if you like this, share this out with your friends.  

You know, tell people about us that, you know, there's   3 crazy veterans   that have a hard time even having one thought between the 3 of them most nights.   And,   you know, it's just funnier than all hell.   Yeah. We do we do speak a little brash, but, you know, that's how we are. That's who we are and everything. So but, yeah, again, thank you for listening. Keep coming back and listening. Keep telling your friends.   Dude?  

[02:51:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it's,  

[02:51:33] Duuude-Ron :

what Brian said earlier, if my,   if my entertaining voice is what puts you to sleep at night   because it's a nice monotone voice that God gave me, you know, by all means, if that is your   if that has helped you   as far as,   my conversation,   you know, that's absolutely great. Won't be the 1st person I've ever put to sleep, but,   again, yes, thank you very much for listening. And,   these two gentlemen, trust me, have helped me more than they realize.   And,   this chat that we do every week, you know,   some things we,   talk very serious about, some things we are   go down a lot of rabbit holes, and you guys have seen the rabbit holes we go down.  

Again, this is something that we just enjoy doing,   talking to each other, and   there's never really any   that   schedule of what we are going to talk about. It's just whatever   pops into our minds, and   that's a scary fucking subject right there that we might get into next week.   You know? But, yeah,   one thought between between the 3 of us, that's also pretty damn fucking scary.   So,   yes. Thank you very much for listening, and,   hope you guys have a great week.  

[02:53:03] Bryan Goodwin:

So, alright, guys. I'm again, we're we're just wanna wrap it all up with a send it home with, just a just a general thank you and and appreciate all that y'all do,   to help us out so we can keep this show going. So anyhow, guys, y'all have yourselves a good rest of the week. We will see y'all next Thursday. Until then,   bye.  

[02:53:24] Rich Chelson:

Later.   Peace out.   Alright, guys. Catch y'all then. Alright. See you later, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye.