Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this episode of Two Grumpy Vets, Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude dive into a lively discussion about the trials and tribulations of vehicle maintenance, sharing personal stories about brake line issues and steering stabilizer shocks. They also touch on the challenges of dealing with unexpected weather conditions and the peculiarities of road rage incidents involving truck drivers. The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as they reminisce about the music icons of their youth, including the recent passing of Ozzy Osbourne and Hulk Hogan, and the impact of legendary figures like Nikola Tesla on modern technology.

The hosts also explore the societal changes brought about by technology, discussing the influence of smartphones and AI on human interaction and the decline of traditional social skills. They reflect on the importance of community and personal responsibility in an increasingly digital world. The episode wraps up with a humorous take on the quirks of human behavior and the unpredictable nature of their podcast discussions, inviting listeners to join them in their candid and unfiltered conversations.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy Vets and Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help the land of each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Bryan,   Rich, and the Duuude.   Is   Recording in progress.   Let's see here. Bryan.   Not a month. What do you up to?  



[00:00:42] Rich Chelson:

Oh, not too much.   At least it hasn't rained   much today.  

[00:00:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, we've gotten thunder and lightning,   so that's all I've gotten. We've gotten   a bit of that, but that's about the extent of it. See where it is.   There we are. Right there. Yeah.  

[00:01:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. We had a little   sprinkle. Literally a sprinkle.  

[00:01:08] Duuude-Ron :

Oh.  

[00:01:11] Rich Chelson:

And then that's about it. But That's extent, I haven't thought.   Yeah. I'm not I'm not complaining.   Dude,   what's up?   What's up? Missed you last night, man.  

[00:01:23] Duuude-Ron :

No. You did. Okay?   Yeah.   Well,  

[00:01:27] Bryan Goodwin:

it's good on my mind. Okay as could be expected?  

[00:01:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:01:31] Bryan Goodwin:

For the most part. Yeah. For the most part. I understand.  

[00:01:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I had a lot of fun this weekend.  

[00:01:38] Rich Chelson:

Oh, did you? What you said? Is that  

[00:01:41] Duuude-Ron :

metaphorically,   literally?   It's always metaphorically.   Always.   So the Buick   Alright.   Pushy pedal on it. Right? K.   Heidi gets back to the house. She went and got, you know, a couple groceries and said told me that the brake pedal   went down to the floor. I'm like, okay. Well  

[00:02:05] Bryan Goodwin:

that's so well.  

[00:02:07] Duuude-Ron :

So   thinking that, okay, the brakes probably need to be bled. They haven't been bled in a while.   No.  

[00:02:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Breaks are down, baby. The fuck? No.  

[00:02:19] Duuude-Ron :

I got a hole   at a bracket   that holds the brake line   in the hard or the the hard portion of the brake line. Not the hose, but the hard part. Okay. So you had to wear a slot in in  

[00:02:35] Bryan Goodwin:

the in the actual line. That's rare. Yeah.  

[00:02:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well,   yes and no.   So when I was trying to find   where the leak was coming from because I filled up the res reservoir was empty.   Right? Okay. That's a little bit fucking odd.   So and there was a good amount of   fluid on the ground.   I'm like, okay.   Fuck  

[00:03:00] Bryan Goodwin:

me.   Exactly. I was like, that's not a good sign.  

[00:03:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So I filled up the reservoir,   and I'm like, okay. Let's   see where it's trying.   I'm trying to troubleshoot where the hell the leak is at.  

[00:03:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:03:17] Duuude-Ron :

And, yeah, right   where all   the lines come together except for the front,   the driver front,   because that one's separate because it's right underneath   the, ABS module, the the brake master cylinder,   all that stuff. So it's not in the cluster with the other three   because the other three are combined, and they go into the firewall. Then the two   for the rear go up underneath the driver's seat,   and then the   one for the passenger front   goes   and stays next to the firewall.   Well, that bracket where all of those are at plus the fuel line   is where it wore through.  

And I'm looking at the other lines going, son of a bitch.   I got corrosion on all four   lines   at the master cylinder area.   So I'm like, son of a bitch. This is gonna be fucking just absolutely fun.  

[00:04:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Gotta play with all the   all the hard tubes.  

[00:04:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And you don't just, you know, you can't just splice.   No.   You know, because it is a pressurized cylinder with hydraulic fluid, basically.   Yeah.   So   and it's a 2000   Buick.   I can't re I can't remember the model off the top of my head. So do you think they make brake lines for   a 2,000 vehicle?   I haven't researched it yet, but the odds are gonna tell me   probably not.  

[00:04:56] Rich Chelson:

Well, dude, actually actually,   yes,   you can splice.   You have to use wedding bands in between your splices, but I understand what you're saying.  

[00:05:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So well, a friend of mine, real good friend of mine down here, a mechanic,   said that we can   flange in   new   or create new lines   and flange them in   with compression fittings   to go to the   non hardened portion of the lines.   Right.   So   so,   yeah, more fucking shit.   If it ain't one goddamn   Greek tragedy, it's another.  

[00:05:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Typical. Yeah.  

[00:05:43] Duuude-Ron :

So   Absolutely.   What a fucking week.   So now so now   all the brake fluid that I put into the reservoir, guess where all of that is   at? On the ground.  

[00:05:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, why don't you put it in the, in the reservoir where it belongs?   It's great. And, basically, you're gonna reach through the damn phone and just throttle me.  

[00:06:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, see, it's gonna be a little bit hard to pick out the pieces of the kitty litter   and squeeze those to put the fluid back into the reservoir.  

[00:06:18] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. I've got a fake team here, dude.  

[00:06:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So do I, but not that fucking much, Faith.   No. Don't think that's gonna happen.   Oh, here you go. Here's some more stuff. I don't know if I told you guys. This is on the Jeep.   This is just on the Jeep.   So   I was up underneath of it looking to see where all my lube points are at. K. So I got all this fluid on the front   steering stabilizer   shock.   I'm   like, yeah. That don't fucking look good.   Right. And I'm looking some more, and there's grease on the transmission   right at the   where the transmission goes into the   what else I call, Rich?  

The four by four Transfer case.   Transfer case. Thank you.   So there's grease all over   that area of   the Jeep. So I take it over to another friend that, you know, did all the work on   the Jeeps that I had.   And he's looking at the stabilizer shock and goes,   oh, yeah.   Your your shock is blown.   So the seal where the the shaft for the shock goes   is blown.   I'm like, fuck. Steering stabilizer?   Yeah.  

[00:07:39] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:07:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. The steering stabilizer shock. Yep. So   gonna have to replace that.   And the Fox two o's,   yeah, they ain't cheap.  

[00:07:50] Rich Chelson:

No. Dang it. No. They ain't.   $2.50 plus.  

[00:07:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   That is absolutely correct. And I got five of them.   Hopefully, I don't have to change someone's on the fucking wheel anytime soon.   But, yeah, I'm gonna have to do that.   Then the boots   around   all the   lube points for the steering components are starting to dry rot   and crack.   I'm like, goddamn.   And the front and where the grease is   coming from,   the front drive shaft   where it connects at the transfer case, you know, the the boot  

[00:08:31] Rich Chelson:

that has all the grease. Boot. You've got a CV boot. Okay.  

[00:08:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   So,   yeah, that's slung all over the place. So the front drive shaft's going out.  

[00:08:43] Rich Chelson:

No. Front drive shaft's not going out. You just need to change that boot and repack   that with grease before it gets bad. If you wait till after it gets bad, then, yes, the front drive shaft will go out, but it's not out. I don't know if you can even  

[00:08:59] Duuude-Ron :

replace those boots, can you? Yes. You can. Yeah. Okay.   Yes. You can. Worst worst case scenario,   I got another front drive shaft sitting in the garage.  

[00:09:11] Rich Chelson:

Well, I mean, that's good. That's that's awesome. But I'm just saying, you do not have drive shaft going out unless you   keep proceeding with it without fixing it, then, yeah, you will.  

[00:09:24] Duuude-Ron :

K. Well, I'll look into that.   So   gave the rear drive shaft to somebody else that needed the rear drive shaft, but I got both of the front and the rear drive shaft from a four door JK   from   another person   in one of the Jeep groups   that was going to throw them away   because he had purchased   aftermarket   drive shafts, which were Tom Woods.   I would love to have Tom Woods drive shafts on   my Jeep,   but they're about 12 to $1,400   per drive shaft   times two.  

[00:10:04] Rich Chelson:

You know, I don't I don't see spending that much money on drive shafts   when you're not gonna   extreme wheel it. If you're gonna extreme wheel it, then, yes, spend all that fucking money.   But just to just to spend all that fucking money, just say, oh, I got Tom Wizz drive shafts,   and   you don't wheel it that hard,   OEM will last as long as the vehicle will. Right. Oh, yeah. Basically, just lasted.  

[00:10:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say, basically, you're just you're just spending money just for the show off ability and   not really doing anything good.   Exactly.  

[00:10:44] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   yes and no. And I see both of you guys' points.   I had Tom Tom Woods drive shafts on the TJ.   Loved them   because they're basically indestructible.   You know? However,   yeah, do I do extreme wheeling with my Jeep, the four door?   Not so much.   Yes. I'll hit level five trails   with it. Yes. I will.   But I'm not   freaking trying to go up a damn   a cliffside   with the damn Jeep.  

[00:11:20] Rich Chelson:

You're not rock bouncing.   Okay. I'm definitely not rock bouncing. That's You're not rock bouncing. You're so so so no. A a 12 or $1,400   drive shaft,   that'd be a waste of fucking money.  

[00:11:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're right. It would be.   I mean So but I got I got a spare one in the in the garage, so I'm good there. But the Jeep is   70 years old.   It has been wheeled,   not by the previous owner.   Previous owner, there was not a speck of fucking dust.   Inside,   outside,   underneath,   nothing.   Not a speck of dirt until I fucking owned it.   And now it's just   well,   yeah, I got scratches and   bent pieces up underneath the Jeep because I wheel it. Right. That's why I bought it.   But yeah. You know? So   that has been my fun for the last   since we talked the last time.  

And the hitch just keep on coming. Coming.   Yeah.   You know,   today   no. This was yesterday. I was coming back from Grand Prairie.   You know how   four wheelers cars   will   for our audience,   how four wheelers will   break check a semi?  

[00:12:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. If they think they've been somehow wrong, yeah, they will. Yeah.  

[00:12:48] Duuude-Ron :

I saw   it was fucking incredible. I'm I'm just shaking my head going, this guy is a fucking total   piece of shit. Yeah. So here's a here's a Prime example of an asshat. Alright.   You know?   Yeah.   Prime example of an ass hat.   So   there's a rig like yours, Brian,   all in the same type of trailer that you're hauling for fracking. Alright. Yeah. He's hauling Don't have a fucking clue, but he's actually got you know, it's a over the road   type truck.   Right. So   and   the guy in front of him had passed me,   which was a flatbed   with shingles on it.  



[00:13:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. He'd probably come up for me, and that's if I had to guess.  

[00:13:37] Duuude-Ron :

Or   well, not Waxahachie,   but, of course, the Cana has a shingle mill. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Cana.   So who knows where he was coming from? So this guy with the   trailer like yours, he's trying to pass him. This guy with the flatbed   cuts him off and stays in front of him. The guy changes the lane.   The other truck changes the lane and keeps blocking him Hell yeah. From passing him.   I'm like, you are a royal fucking piece of shit.   It's like, dude. And then   he wants to camp out   in the fucking left lane.   Mhmm. The one with the the one with the flatbed and the shingles. Wants to camp in the fucking left lane.  

[00:14:22] Bryan Goodwin:

It's like Sounds about right.  

[00:14:25] Duuude-Ron :

What the fuck?   I know that we're,   you know, a well   industrialized   country,   And I've seen some shit   on YouTube   of,   oh my god, other countries   and their trucks and   their maintenance and all that other shit.   You know,   why the fuck would somebody in a rig try to fucking   break check   another fucking rig?  

[00:14:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, because of the same reason why you got,   four wheelers that do it.   I've been I've had I've had assholes in in in semis do the same thing.   One guy was pissed off that I was that   that I was passing him as the as the we're going into a construction area. And he was he was pissed off at me because I didn't slow down and let him ahead of me. It's like, dude, you and my philosophy's always been, you know, if you can if there's two two miles worth of notice that, hey. You need to be over a certain lane, Then get your ass over in a certain lane. It doesn't take   two miles to get over there even in a busy time.  



[00:15:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:15:35] Bryan Goodwin:

And this guy didn't have any   he just waited until the last minute.   And, yeah, he got pissed off. So he once we got through the through the construction, he comes around me and and starts doing brake checking. And, you know, I tried to go around him, and he went over the lane. So I all I did is I just kept slowing down. The more he slowed down, the more I slowed down. I turned my blinkers on.   And, you know, eventually, he came to a stop, and I started creep over the other side, and he started trying to do the same thing. And so, eventually, he would get bored because, you know, I I pulled off on the side of the road, and I just stopped and and waited.   And,   and   he wanted to hop out and and try to be mouthy.  

And, you know, you pull you you go stepping out. You start showing them that you've got yourself a   an inch and a half thick wrench in your hand. All of a sudden, he just you know, they start deciding on their mind I'm gonna go ahead and go. I told them off enough. That's all I needed to do. So   that's still one of the best, the best   deters of mouths that I've ever come across as a good old inch and a half.  

[00:16:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's true.   You know?   And I had a car.   Get this.   Waco   downtown   on 35   is now a two lane   from   the college   all the way to   the 360   Overpass   in Robinson.   Because now they're gonna   in Waco, they only did   a third of the interstate of 35 to a four lane.   Now they're doing   this or they're adding this portion   to be a four four lane.   So and they're gonna take Valley Mills Drive, the bridge   down.   So there's no bridges   on 35 except for   there'll be one that they built.   You know? I don't know what. Four years it's gonna take.   So 35 is down to two lanes   Nice. In in the middle of Waco.  

I'm like   and   we just got done doing this four year thing   a year ago.   Right. And it it's been a little over a year that that   all the construction on 35 through Waco   was completed, and now they're gonna start another four year fucking year project.   It's like,   fucking people. Oh, I can't wait till they do   because it's a three lane going through   Temple to Belton.   They're also gonna fucking make that a four lane.   That is   fucking utter nightmare.   Yeah.   So   yeah. And I had I was in   not the fast lane, but the lane next to it.   And   the two very outside   lanes   were mer from four lanes,   merging into two lanes where they have the construction.  

So   light of where the   the big   55 gallon drug   type cones   go and   stop the lane,   you have to merge by that time.   You know, I'm letting the cars   that have gotten   up to that point   that are in front of me   in.   Yeah.   Well, this   you know what? Never saw what type of person that was driving it. It was a white four door car,   was probably about   an inch and a half   from my front tire,   and the barrier   is, like,   a foot away from   that vehicle.   So I'm like,   where are you trying   to go?   Right. You are you're you're not you are not   going to get in front of me   whatsoever.  

I still have   the front of my vehicle.   You know, I have, what, six feet in front of her car.  

[00:19:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[00:19:57] Duuude-Ron :

And she's trying to   I would've loved to seeing her move try and move the barriers   with her car   and try to and try to squeeze   squeeze in there to get in front of my truck.  

[00:20:10] Bryan Goodwin:

I've seen people try   try   move in 10 horns. So, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they just someone tried to move the barriers.  

[00:20:20] Duuude-Ron :

Just to get   one   spot   in line   further   to   put on their fucking brakes and stop.   Yeah.   What is the fucking   point?   Today,   coming through   Gatesville,   coming in the backside   of Fort Hood, it goes down to 50 miles an hour. So I'm doing 50 miles an hour. Why? Because DPS likes to sit in that area.   Right?   And fucking   laser.   Oh, yeah. You're two to three miles an hour over that 50 mile an hour in that zone.   Oh, yeah. You're gonna get pulled over   without a doubt, and I'm not trying to test it. So You're not gonna do no experimentation at all.   No. I'm doing 50 to 40 I'm doing 49 to 50.  

That's what I'm doing.   I'm not gonna tempt DPS   on pulling me over for speeding. That's just stupid.   Right. So it's a two lane   for the majority of the part   of where it's a 50 mile 50 mile an hour zone.   Mhmm. Except for where   the gate that goes into Fort Hood is at, then it turns into   two   lanes just so you could have   one driving lane and one lane that's people are turning in to go to the, you know, into the entrance   of Fort Hood and or come out.   Well, this asshole decides   he he's had about enough mach 50 miles an hour   and fucking   passes me on the right hand side because I'm not moving out of the left lane. Because I know that here   in about 300,   you know, or no. It's probably about   300 meters. It's gonna go back to a two lane highway.  

Yeah. Well, this guy,   when the lane   merged back into one,   he was still on the right side of my truck.   Now he's using the breakdown   lane   to pass me.  

[00:22:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Tell me there's a there there's a a convenient cop hanging around there somewhere.  

[00:22:34] Duuude-Ron :

God. I wish there was a a freaking cop right then and there.   That would have been so fucking funny.  

[00:22:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's probably one of my favorite subreddits is is the convenient cop subreddit.   People catch You know what? Their dash cam,   people being idiots, and right behind them is a cop.  

[00:22:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Yep. The, yep, the instant karma videos.  

[00:22:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Love them. Oh, yes.   Karma is good.  

[00:23:02] Duuude-Ron :

Man, I wish there was a lot more of instant karma,   especially just   impatient   individuals.  

[00:23:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's the problem.   I'd wind up being being   having the Instacarma happen to me if I'd if I wasn't aiming for it. So  

[00:23:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know,   I can say that I've had, you know, several times   that, you know,   I would have been the recipient of,   you know, instant karma   had a cop been right   there without a doubt. You know? I'm sure we all have.  

[00:23:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:23:42] Duuude-Ron :

So,   you know, it just   one time, I would like to see that. Just one time. Oh, absolutely.   Just one time personally.   And then as they're stopped and I go by, I just toot the horn and wave   because you know they're never gonna catch up. Because they're gonna be on the side of the road for, oh, good,   twenty, thirty minutes.  

[00:24:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely.  

[00:24:06] Duuude-Ron :

I'm saying in no hurry to ride a ticket. Oh, no. They've been all day.   Exactly.   They have all damn day   to just sit there with one person if need be.  

[00:24:18] Bryan Goodwin:

And I ain't gonna care whether you're you've got a time limit or not.   So  

[00:24:24] Duuude-Ron :

so Yeah. Well, hopefully, that never happens.   Hopefully, I don't come into that situation where I get, you know,   like, a roadside infection,   and I'm fixing to run out of time.  

[00:24:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:24:36] Duuude-Ron :

Which   I've you know,   it's very hard for me to get close to fourteen hours unless I have some type of,   breakdown.  

[00:24:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Good point.  

[00:24:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So   that could very easily happen, but, you know, the,   yeah, that would really suck.   Yeah.   So   what do y'all think of the latest celebrity,  

[00:25:02] Bryan Goodwin:

passing?   Which one? Yep.  

[00:25:05] Duuude-Ron :

Lost Ozzy.  

[00:25:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. What about Hulk Hogan? What about  

[00:25:09] Bryan Goodwin:

oh, yeah. That's right. Hogan died also.  

[00:25:12] Rich Chelson:

I mean Really? I mean, we come on. Take that's why I asked. Which one?   I mean I mean, I'm sad Ozzy died, but   that doesn't   hurt my feelings or  

[00:25:24] Duuude-Ron :

nothing. You know, I used to when I was in high school cruising 0 Street in Lincoln,   bark at the moon, I had, like, three favorite   cassette tapes.   No. I didn't have   what was previous to cassette tapes? What the hell were those things? Eight tracks.   Eight track. Yeah. I never had an eight track player, but we did have cassettes.   And Ozzy Osbourne, Bark at the Moon   was one that I would   crank up and cruise with.   And then Motley Cruise   shouted the devil,   and I can't remember the other one. I think it was Ronnie James Dio.   Yeah. But Dio passed away in, I think, 2013   time frame, if I'm not mistaken.  

But now I had did not hear that Hulk Hogan passed away.   When did when did he pass away?  

[00:26:17] Bryan Goodwin:

That was what? The other day. Yeah. I was gonna say it's like yesterday. Not quite yesterday, but it was like   so what was the  

[00:26:26] Rich Chelson:

I wanna say it was it was within the last day or two.  

[00:26:30] Duuude-Ron :

So he could have possibly passed away the same day. Oh, he died today.  

[00:26:34] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. Today.   Oh, it says, the July 24.   So, yeah, a big day. Yeah. That's today.  

[00:26:43] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.   Yep.  

[00:26:45] Rich Chelson:

So yeah. So yeah. Yeah. I mean   and then I saw   now I don't know if y'all know who this guy is. I know who he is. Chuck Mangione,   the   jazz musician here, that one famous song.   I can't tell you the name of it.   Yeah. Not ringing any bells. Me. I loved I loved listening to it.   It was   he just   dude was just  

[00:27:12] Duuude-Ron :

Phenomenal?   Yeah. I mean For lack of for lack of a better word.   You know who else passed away?   Who? You remember the Cosby Show?  

[00:27:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Malcolm Jamal Warner. Yeah. Malcolm Jamal Warner,  

[00:27:27] Duuude-Ron :

last week was,   accidental   accidental drowning.  

[00:27:31] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. I saw that too. It's like, good lord.  

[00:27:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[00:27:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. He   Chip   Mangione,   I think he is the only one that that   it says   he he played the trumpet. He was a composer,   and he played the flugelhorn.   I don't I don't know of anyone else who plays  

[00:27:57] Bryan Goodwin:

the horn.   Nor I.   I'd have to look up the I'd have to look up to see what the actual   horn looks like.  

[00:28:07] Rich Chelson:

I'm a look it up because,   I I don't think I actually know what it looks like.  

[00:28:13] Duuude-Ron :

That wouldn't be the one in the Swiss Alps, would it, I wonder? No. No. That's that's  

[00:28:18] Bryan Goodwin:

not a Matterhorn. That's a mountain.  

[00:28:20] Duuude-Ron :

Matterhorn.   Matterhorn is a pair of boots.  

[00:28:24] Bryan Goodwin:

It's  

[00:28:25] Rich Chelson:

it's a cross between a it says it says it's a brass instrument that resembles   the trumpet and cornet, but has a wider,   more conical bore.  

[00:28:37] Bryan Goodwin:

And now what I figured, I was I hear flugelhorn, and the thing came to mind was some type of French horn.  

[00:28:44] Rich Chelson:

No. This one   this one would look more like a trumpet or a   bugle. Hang on a second.  

[00:28:53] Duuude-Ron :

Let me say this one. But you said it was a cross between a trumpet and a clarinet.  

[00:28:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. Trumpet and a and a and a cornet.   Cornet is just another type of trumpet.  

[00:29:06] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Well, hang on.   I'm gonna put a picture of it in the chat.   Okay.   Okay.   Cupcake.  

[00:29:15] Duuude-Ron :

But I think I remember who you're talking about as well. I'm not, you know, a big jazz   individual, but I think I know who you're talking about.  

[00:29:24] Rich Chelson:

Well, I didn't listen to   there is there is one song he did. I just y'all check the chat. It's in there.   But, yeah, dude just could just   the song I I think it was, Oh, yeah. Okay.   Feel so good or something or yeah. Feel so good.   I I I can't remember. I would I would I would have to listen.   I would know it as soon as I heard it, but   but, yeah, I just I just I just love listening to it. Yep.   So, yeah, it's it's, yeah, it's been crazy.   A lot of people   have been passing away.  

[00:30:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Saw saw a meme on Facebook going, guys, I I can't keep up with the with the, celebrities this month. So  

[00:30:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   What did they say that   Hulk Hogan passed away from,  

[00:30:17] Rich Chelson:

or have they put it out yet?   Oh, yeah. They have.   I just read it, and I can't remember what it was.  

[00:30:23] Duuude-Ron :

Well, we know Ozzy passed away from Parkinson's.  

[00:30:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. He   he just got to us.   I'm just glad that he was able to do a farewell tour   two or three weeks before before his passing. Yep. Yep. Two weeks ago. Yep.  

[00:30:40] Rich Chelson:

So   They're saying it's cardiac arrest, so a heart attack.  

[00:30:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it's a really cool, meme   deal where you had, like, the Iron Sheik and Andre the Giant and several others welcoming Hogan into the to the,   to the pearly gates.  

[00:31:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Gotcha.   With a with a what? WWE   SmackDown?  

[00:31:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Just body slam.   Oh, driver.  

[00:31:14] Duuude-Ron :

Right right in front of,   oh, who's the one at the fucking pearly gates?   Saint Peter. Saint Peter. Saint Peter.   He probably body slammed him over his,   you know, his table that he has, the book of life on. Yeah.   Body slams him onto that that table right there.   Well, you know,   eventually, we will all pass away. How old, was Hulk Hogan?  

[00:31:41] Rich Chelson:

71.  

[00:31:42] Duuude-Ron :

I was gonna say he was seventies, I thought. So yeah.  

[00:31:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. He was 71.  

[00:31:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Ozzy was 76.   And Jamelle,   whatever his name is, I  

[00:31:55] Bryan Goodwin:

he was 75.  

[00:31:57] Rich Chelson:

He wasn't that old. Not 75. 45.  

[00:32:00] Bryan Goodwin:

55.   54. He he was born in born in seventies. So  

[00:32:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:32:06] Rich Chelson:

I was gonna say, yeah. He   he wasn't that old. He what's the he was already Everybody else is 70. I was stuck on 70.  

[00:32:16] Duuude-Ron :

Well, unstick your brain.   No.   Yeah. No. We wouldn't wanna have that now, would we?  

[00:32:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh. Nah. Nah. I can't have that.  

[00:32:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That'd be no anno.   But,  

[00:32:30] Bryan Goodwin:

but, yeah, that was   that's the fact that,   that Aussie passed. That one's   I mean, I I wasn't growing up, I wasn't all that big into   Black Sabbath or Aussie. I mean,   we all we everybody I know enjoyed,   listen to the,   mama, I'm coming home. You know?   But,   but growing up, that just wasn't a big thing for that, that I really listened to because it was if if everyone else was liking it, then I pretty much was going to find something else to listen to.  

[00:33:05] Duuude-Ron :

Man, what a   band.  

[00:33:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I was   I was I would,   find ways to,   to just distance myself. I wanted to be as original as origin for originality's   sake   as I could. So For for  

[00:33:23] Duuude-Ron :

for what purpose?   I know. And that's the right time to see that one time.  

[00:33:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But it I'm still that way. I still if everyone else is doing something or everyone else is really hyped up about somebody, you know, a certain celebrity or something like that,   I won't really care about it until until they, until the the hype has died down. That's why I didn't watch   watch, like, Game of Thrones until, like, a year after it's   after it stopped,   it did the, season ending or the   episode,   ending.   And,   and everybody kinda stopped talking about it. So  

[00:34:00] Rich Chelson:

Oh. Yeah. I'm like that on the same way. I I don't I don't try and watch   shit same time everybody else is. I just   I don't know. For me, it's   I just  

[00:34:12] Duuude-Ron :

I just don't have a watch bandwagon like that. Oh, I I I agree with you, Matt. With that, I still ain't watched the episode   Game of Thrones.  

[00:34:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But, I mean, I that's one of the reasons why I don't have a tattoos because everyone else is getting tattoos. I'm like, no. I don't care to look like everybody else.  

[00:34:31] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   And so to get more tattoos,   but I doubt if I ever will.  

[00:34:39] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I've got I've got the ones I got, and I'm I'm happy with the ones I got. So  

[00:34:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:34:45] Rich Chelson:

You know, if if, I don't get another one, I don't care.  

[00:34:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because the last one you got was at the   here's a vent from   what the hell is that? From tank. No. From tank. Tommy.  

[00:34:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, did Tommy do it? Oh, you got okay.  

[00:35:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Tank didn't do mine.  

[00:35:05] Duuude-Ron :

Well, okay.   Well, gee, we is.  

[00:35:09] Rich Chelson:

So   it don't matter. Tank,  

[00:35:12] Duuude-Ron :

Tommy,   whoever.   So   but   I heard that there is a   yeah. I just heard this on the radio. Is there a storm,   a tropical depression or something brewing in the co or in The Gulf  

[00:35:27] Rich Chelson:

right now? Not a tropical depression, but it is a whole bunch of rain.   Oh, okay. It is not a named storm.  

[00:35:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Not yet.  

[00:35:37] Rich Chelson:

Probably not gonna be either.   Not this one.   The one that's,   the last time I looked, it was just   West Of   Africa. That one, I think, might might wind up being a named storm.   But Okay.   There is no named storms in the Gulf Of Mexico.  

[00:35:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Well, the radio said that, you know, it may hit a   tropical depression.   Yeah. It may, but I hadn't seen, you know, any anything as far as   what's going on in The Gulf. I just heard it on the radio today while I was driving.  

[00:36:16] Rich Chelson:

It it   it it has a 10%   chance of cyclone formation in seven days.   No. It's just all it is is a bunch of rain in in The Gulf,   and it's swirling about   all over The US.  

[00:36:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I was gonna say we've got we've got storms around us right now, so I knew something was   throwing some energy around.  

[00:36:40] Duuude-Ron :

Well, we're not supposed to have anything here until   Saturday   late, and they're only predicting a 30% chance then.  

[00:36:49] Rich Chelson:

I should. That that,   that one mass I saw out West Of Africa is not even on the national hurricane   centers map.  

[00:36:58] Duuude-Ron :

Not yet.  

[00:37:00] Rich Chelson:

No. Not at all.   Well   Saw it on the radar, but   but,  

[00:37:08] Duuude-Ron :

yeah, I don't know.   Is that the only one that's   the one that's causing a lot of rain and the one that's off of Africa right now, is that the only two that are   active   conditions?  

[00:37:22] Rich Chelson:

Actually, the one that's off the West Coast of,   Africa is gone.   It's gone. I'm looking on the weather map even, and it's gone.   Now there's Wow. There's rain all the way from   Venezuela, Colombia,   South America, top part of South America,   all the way up,   into The US   and all the way through The US.   So  

[00:37:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. But  

[00:37:47] Rich Chelson:

but, yeah, there's   I don't know. Just   I wouldn't say there's nothing to even talk about for a couple days   minimum.  

[00:37:57] Duuude-Ron :

Well, like, we need anything fucking   here.   Right. Well, close by here.   You know? And now it   I don't know if you've seen   a videos on how quickly   with the rain, how those rivers   swelled   so quickly.   There was one that was   a fifth of the side   size,   And within   twelve minutes,   it was, like,   12 times its size.  

[00:38:31] Rich Chelson:

That's been known to happen.  

[00:38:33] Duuude-Ron :

You're right. But everybody is like   and, understandably,   there was a lot of loss of life, and they're still missing individuals   from that   in the Kerrville   area.   But, you know,   now everybody's like, okay. Why didn't we get any warnings?  

[00:38:53] Bryan Goodwin:

You gave out warnings. They gave out shit tons of warnings.   The problem is is that you had complacency.   Everybody was just kinda like, oh, look at that. We got another warning. Alright. Well, that doesn't mean anything. Maybe you know? Oh, flash flood. Okay. Yeah. We're gonna have wall water over the road.   No. They didn't they didn't heed the warning.  

[00:39:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I   do. You're right. And you never and you never know   with that amount of rain. There was,   what, that area you got 12 inches 12 inches of rain   in a matter of  

[00:39:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Just in in hardly any time at all.  

[00:39:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. In a matter of hours.   Yeah.  

[00:39:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Was 10 inches of rain. It's like two or three two or three hours.  

[00:39:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You can, and you don't know   how bad flooding is going to flood   until it happens. Exactly.  

[00:39:46] Rich Chelson:

Well You know? Okay. Here's here's the thing. Here's the thing. When it floods,   the rain at your location   is not gonna cause   your floodwaters.   No.   This is what nobody fucking understands.   They think if it rains   22 fucking inches   where they live, they're gonna flood. No. They're not. Because if it only rains two inches   further up above them,   the water is not gonna hardly raise.   Now the 22 inches where it rained at their location   downriver,   it's gonna flood like a motherfucker.   This is what people don't understand because   people don't wanna learn about this stuff. And then Yeah. Like like you said, they just wanna bitch, oh, we need warnings. We need this. We need that. No. We don't need the fucking government in on this. And, yes, we did have a lot of fucking warnings.  

But, again, like Brian said,   nobody fucking paid attention to them. Why?   Because it would have interrupted   their daily lives   and their   thoughts of themselves only.   And God forbid,   if anything   screws   with their mindset, with their thoughts.   Yeah. Plain and simple.  

[00:41:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And not only that,   it that flooding took place at what was it? About 01:30 in the morning? Yeah. It was  

[00:41:11] Bryan Goodwin:

early enough in the morning. That's yeah.  

[00:41:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So  

[00:41:15] Rich Chelson:

A little education,   if people would just get a little I mean, the smallest, minutest   amount of fucking education   about   how rains happen and floods happen and all like that, it wouldn't take a thirty minute class.  

[00:41:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[00:41:33] Rich Chelson:

They could learn so much.   Mhmm. Know exactly what to do.  

[00:41:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And, you know, okay.   Having a dam fail.   Okay. When a dam fails, what what are the warning signs?   For the most part,   what are the warning signs?  

[00:41:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, there's the breaking and the and the degradation   of the dam itself.   Okay.  

[00:41:56] Duuude-Ron :

You may possibly see that. I got you on that one. What else?   For the most part, when a dam breaks, it breaks.   Especially   an earthen dam.  

[00:42:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. No. When earthen dams wash out, yeah, you're just   they they just they get full and away the water goes.  

[00:42:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And   okay. Lake   Belton.   Fucking that's pretty goddamn big lake.  

[00:42:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Lake Buchanan's like a big lake too, and that damn thing is full.  

[00:42:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's so is Belton.  

[00:42:29] Bryan Goodwin:

That most of our year, yeah, full. I don't think I've ever seen Belton full.  

[00:42:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's full.   Yeah. As a matter of fact, I don't know if you've ever been over   yeah. You have. You've been over   six   going over the lake. Right? Yeah.   Okay.   On the   say you're coming from,   you know, Abilene into   Temple,   you know, where the boat ramp is on the right hand side?   Yeah.   Okay.   That is probably   a quarter underwater right now.   That's how full the lake is.   Wow.   Uh-huh.   Yep.   Now I've also seen it a couple years ago where the freaking   you see   yeah. The water was, like,   couple no.   There was no fucking water there at the boat ramp,   and everything   on the other side of the bridge   was fucking grass. There was no water whatsoever.  

And the boat ramp was, like,   three, four hundred feet from   the fucking edge of   the water.   Uh-huh.   Yeah.   So   but that's a stupid trivia for today. So, yeah, belt is over over.   Well, it is full.   So okay. So where the the dam is at for that lake   is an earthen   dam.   Okay. It has a road going over it. Yeah. It has a road going over it.   But   if that   dam just fails,   yeah, there's a lot of shit downriver   that would be affected.   Mhmm.   I 35   I 35 would be affected by it.  

[00:44:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:44:20] Duuude-Ron :

Because there's two creeks that feed off from   that   dam   that goes under 35.   And, yeah, if the dam if the dam   blew   oh, yeah. 35 would be underwater   without a doubt.   And probably about,   oh, good portion of Belton   would be underwaters   as well.   Yeah.   But what the hell do I know?  

[00:44:47] Bryan Goodwin:

You know geologist?  

[00:44:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I just drive a truck.   So   when I get to Abilene   today,   my whole load's already on the truck in the morning,   you know, especially for Abilene.   There's there's some guys that come in at, like, 04:00 in the morning, count in the trucks,   and their   their job is not that, but they take care of that in the morning   so everybody else can concentrate on getting their trucks loaded back up. Unless it's like Abilene, because Abilene is all maintenance cylinders,   and they're prestaged   in one location.   So   it's all that going up onto my truck.   So there was 50   acetylene   size threes   on two pallets.  

There are 50 of those.   Okay?  

[00:45:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Now size three is what? The kind of the standard size? Are they bigger than normal?  

[00:45:46] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well,   most of the time, you're gonna see an AC four with an oxygen 200   in, like, a shop   or a welding truck,   that kind of stuff.   The most of the time, it's an AC four   with a 200.   An AC three is just probably about,   oh, four inches shorter   and not quite   as big around.   Okay.   Now why they call them an AC three, four, five,   don't have a clue.   I do know why   ACs are called MCs   and Bs   for their sizes,   but we'll get back to that here in just a minute to see if you guys know why those are named those. But we'll get back to that in just a minute. So I get to Abilene. I have 50 of these as acetylenes on there.   They're brand new. Just got shipped to us recently, so they don't have any labels on them because they've never been used.  

As far as we're concerned, they're still virgin steel.   Right.   So when I get to Abilene,   the ticket is for Abilene for the a c threes.   And the guy that the assistant branch manager   says,   well, we don't need any AC threes. We need AC fours. I'm like,   haul.   I don't pick them. I don't pull them.   I just haul them.  

[00:47:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Right?  

[00:47:13] Duuude-Ron :

So   take that up with,   you know, the other individuals   at the plant or the higher beam counters. I don't know why they came to Abilene,   but   somebody in the area   needs 50   a c threes.   So   here you go.   Like, why did you get those? No. I don't pick them. I don't pull them. I just haul them.   You know, I that's   I'm not in that   lane.   You know?   You see the email that goes out. You get them every week so you know what's coming. Well, he didn't know about the settling because that was last minute.   But it's like, you you get the email on everything that's coming to you and where it's all supposed to get directed to. So   yeah.  

But, yeah, he said that. It's like,   okay. Whatever.   I'm like, dude,   you know what? They're on the ticket.   They're here,   so now they're yours.   Now what you're trying   what you guys do with the   you know?   I don't know.   Because somebody else   me   wants them   in your general location.   So   but, anyway, now   the real small cylinders   that usually   go with oxygen twenties, which are about 12 inches tall,   there's an acetylene   MC.   Does anybody know why they're called an MC?  

[00:48:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Because they're the master ceremonies.  

[00:48:56] Duuude-Ron :

That   is totally   incorrect.   Well. You are so far to the left,   you're, like, off the fucking stage   by Biden falling off the stage. Yeah.  

[00:49:10] Rich Chelson:

It stands for MASH Casualties.   No.   Okay.  

[00:49:15] Duuude-Ron :

And   and settling MC.   Okay.   How about for the automotive   industry?   What might   you think?  

[00:49:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Main character.   No.  

[00:49:31] Duuude-Ron :

Automotive industry?  

[00:49:34] Bryan Goodwin:

You're talking about, like, motor carrier   or   Well, it's closet  

[00:49:39] Duuude-Ron :

or, you're getting closer with   the first one.   Okay?   Back in the eighteen hundreds, they didn't have   light bulbs   for vehicles.   Yeah. MC is the size that they used on motorcycle   for the acetylene lamps.   And the size b's   were for the buses and trucks.  

[00:50:04] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And milli cycles.  

[00:50:07] Duuude-Ron :

So just an interesting,   totally off the wall fucking piece of information that   you didn't know yesterday and now you know today.  

[00:50:18] Rich Chelson:

I'm glad you told me I can I can live another day, dude? Thank you. Hey. You know what? You'll  

[00:50:26] Duuude-Ron :

even probably   be able to get just   a few a few more moments of sleep tonight  

[00:50:35] Bryan Goodwin:

just knowing that. Well, you do know you'll probably end up having   a a trivial pursuit question. It's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be something about that, and you're gonna be able to answer it now.  

[00:50:46] Rich Chelson:

Maybe.   Possibly. Possibly.  

[00:50:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I mean, no no guarantee. We don't know what's gonna happen, but you know? Right. And that would probably be the only question  

[00:50:55] Duuude-Ron :

at the $100   level   that I would get.   Because,   yeah, Jeopardy,   yeah, I don't think I have probably ever   not that I watched Jeopardy much. But once in a while, when it comes on, I'll sit and watch through it. I couldn't fucking answer one of those goddamn questions to save my life.   Nothing.   Yeah.   Maybe a couple,   but   that that was a rarity in itself.  

[00:51:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, damn. I've had the floor for about I know, man. You just we you you missed a day, and all of a sudden, you just go to yabber   yabber like a j.  

[00:51:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I'll give you that.   Yeah. No. I was just freaking exhausted last night, and I had to get up early today. So,   yeah, I went to bed, like, about 09:30.   Yeah. I was just   not in the mood, not after being in the heat all day.  

[00:51:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:51:58] Duuude-Ron :

Today wasn't as bad.   But tomorrow is gonna be   a bad one because I'll be at the plant all day, so I'll be out in the heat all day.  

[00:52:07] Rich Chelson:

Drink plenty of fluids.  

[00:52:09] Duuude-Ron :

I do.   I drink   flavored   hot   fluids   for the most part all day long.  

[00:52:19] Rich Chelson:

No. Flavored hot   you flavor? No. You don't drink flavor, dude. You drink sugar.  

[00:52:26] Bryan Goodwin:

I  

[00:52:27] Duuude-Ron :

know. I drink coffee.  

[00:52:30] Rich Chelson:

You drink sugar.  

[00:52:32] Bryan Goodwin:

You drink caffeinated sugar water.  

[00:52:35] Duuude-Ron :

How is coffee   caffeinated sugar water?  

[00:52:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, as much sugar as it seems like he put in stuff, I would say it's probably No. Closer to sugar water.  

[00:52:45] Duuude-Ron :

No. No? No.   No.   Now I don't drink black coffee,   but I don't use sugar.   I use the artificial shit.   Like But still same  

[00:52:59] Rich Chelson:

thing.   In fact in fact, the art in fact, the artificial shit is worse for you than   real shit.  

[00:53:08] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So smoking. What's your fucking point?   Well I've been doing that now for goddamn I don't know how long.   Is it gonna stop anytime soon?   Don't fucking think so.  

[00:53:21] Rich Chelson:

I didn't. Well, why'd you   why'd you switch from real sugar to fake sugar?  

[00:53:27] Duuude-Ron :

Blood sugar count for the diabetes.   L c or the a one   c.  

[00:53:33] Rich Chelson:

You sure it's coming down with that fake shit?  

[00:53:36] Duuude-Ron :

I don't fucking  

[00:53:38] Bryan Goodwin:

know. I guess Probably not that.  

[00:53:40] Duuude-Ron :

You know what? Probably not.   Thank you very much.  

[00:53:45] Rich Chelson:

You're welcome.   Glad I could help.  

[00:53:48] Duuude-Ron :

So you know what I'm gonna have right now?   Some fucking hot   flavored   sugar water. How about that? Motherfucker. I believe it.  

[00:53:57] Rich Chelson:

I do not have that. Right.  

[00:53:59] Duuude-Ron :

No. Actually, I'm having tea   with no sugar.  

[00:54:03] Bryan Goodwin:

I have some tea.  

[00:54:05] Duuude-Ron :

So there.   Done with my tea.   Now I'll go get some coffee. How about that?   Okay.   Yep. I will stay hydrated.   I will.  

[00:54:16] Rich Chelson:

No. That is not staying hydrated.   Caffeine makes you thirsty, dude.  

[00:54:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Actually, you know, I hear people say that, but as my as much as I pee after drinking coffee,   I don't know if that's really the truth.   You know, I'm getting to be the same way. Well, I mean not overly dark or anything. So  

[00:54:37] Rich Chelson:

No. I mean I mean well   well, you see   well, you see your kidneys are working and you're running fluids.   Fluids are just about any type.   As long as you drink enough,   you will pee clear.  

[00:54:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Okay. Yeah. And and that's, I mean,  

[00:54:56] Rich Chelson:

that's even with soda.   You know, if you drink 20 Coke Coca Colas a day,   you you'd still be clear because you're running fluid. Now it's not healthy for you, but Right. No.   So so it's not   you know,   when your urine turns yellow, it's means you're not drinking enough fluids, period.  

[00:55:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, actually, they say you want to have   you your urine actually needs to just be a light yellow.   Yeah. Because optimal. Yeah. That's that's optimal because if you have   it if you have if you have it to where it's perfectly clear, you're actually throwing off your electrolytes.  

[00:55:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Mhmm.   Well and I'll probably be fucking  

[00:55:41] Bryan Goodwin:

throwing off Oh, yeah. My my electrolytes are always off anyhow.   So it's the reason why I like to have   like to have   a a helping of,   of   oh, what the fuck's that damn stuff called? Pickles. Pickle juice.   Pickle juice is actually really especially coat for whatever reason, they always recommend kosher pickle juice.   But yeah.  

[00:56:03] Duuude-Ron :

Especially for cramps.   Yep.  

[00:56:07] Rich Chelson:

That is true. Okay. Let me ask you a question, guys.   What is the difference between kosher pickles   and dill pickles?  

[00:56:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Regular pickles. Well, kosher   is used with kosher salt, but the funny thing is, you know what makes kosher salt kosher?   Isn't that that it's   it isn't that it's blessed. It's actually large   flaked   salt.  

[00:56:31] Rich Chelson:

It's it's still salt, dude. It's Yeah. It's just straight up salt. It's just large flaked. Kosher is is blessed  

[00:56:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Well By by a rabbi. Well, I always thought that too, but it's actually no. It's not.   It's it's blessed. Be it's kosher because it is the proper   that's what they they   in Deuteronomy or wherever the all the laws have been laid out at   talk about the type of salt, and it needs to be large flaked salt.   So the I'm fine. But  

[00:57:02] Rich Chelson:

but, again, though,   the kosher only goes for Jewish   people   of the Jewish faith. Those 613   laws that you keep referring back   to only,   only go   to Jewish people Yeah. Of the Jewish faith. They do not transfer  

[00:57:22] Bryan Goodwin:

to the Christian faith. It's it doesn't it doesn't transfer   it doesn't transfer over to to a new owner at all, but it's it's just the fact that it's   you can   but the fact that they call it kosher   is  

[00:57:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It's but you see, that's the thing. It's all it's all   there's there's nothing   different   about   about how either one of them are made because I've all kosher meat before.  

[00:57:50] Bryan Goodwin:

That was Yeah. Kosher meat is different. Yeah. No. That that's different. That is actually blessed by a rabbi. Yeah.  

[00:57:56] Rich Chelson:

I no. If it's if it says kosher on it,   those pickles were blessed by a rabbi.   They were put on the truck. The truck was blessed, and you've got so long to get from point a to point b. And if you don't make it,   then you have to stop en route,   find another rabbi, pay them, and get them to bless the load again.  

[00:58:18] Duuude-Ron :

Otherwise So you're telling me H E B, Kroger,   Walmart   is gonna fucking do that?  

[00:58:26] Rich Chelson:

Yes, sir.   Yes, sir. They have to.  

[00:58:30] Duuude-Ron :

Really?  

[00:58:31] Rich Chelson:

Yes, sir.   No. They want to call it kosher.   And and if it's labeled as kosher,   they have to follow those laws. I mean,   I freaking dealt with this when I was driving a truck. Okay?   I mean, I I never had to stop en route   and get a load re blessed.   Okay? But I had talked to a few drivers   that had to do that.   Wow. Because their truck broke down or whatnot, and it they went past time. And they had to get   they had to get the load reblessed.   Wow. No.   No. No. The Jewish faith is very strict on their rules.   Even though their rules   don't pertain nowadays,   a lot of people a lot of the Orthodox Jews   still follows   those rules.  

So yeah. No. It is it is a big deal. I learned a lot when I was running   a meeting   other products   and dealing with the Jewish,   face and shit like that.   I thought it was stupid, but that's just me.  

[00:59:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah.   No. I had no fucking clue.   No fucking clue.  

[00:59:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. It yeah. All the all all the grocers,   they had to follow those laws.   Or or now   they might have relaxed on them since then, but   something tells me they haven't.   But I could be wrong on that.   But, yeah, I I remember back in the early nineties   or early to mid nineties   that oh, yeah. We followed that shit.   Followed it to a t. Because it was, like at that time, I think it was, like,   7 or or $800   to get a load re blast.  

[01:00:21] Duuude-Ron :

Fuck.  

[01:00:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It was expensive. It wasn't cheap.  

[01:00:26] Duuude-Ron :

I'll put it to you like that. That shit wouldn't be coming out of my fucking pocket.  

[01:00:30] Rich Chelson:

Back in them days? Yeah. They they would take it right out of your paycheck.  

[01:00:36] Duuude-Ron :

That's bullshit.  

[01:00:38] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. It is.   It is. I mean,   we got fined for being late on a load,   which is illegal.   You can't do that legally.   But back then, companies would snatch that money right out your fucking check,   and there was nothing you could do and or say about it.   Oh, you could   say whatever you wanted, but they still took that money.  

[01:01:05] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   but I never had to drive for   drives through that.  

[01:01:10] Rich Chelson:

Oh, it was fun times, man.  

[01:01:12] Duuude-Ron :

You just didn't I'm sure it was if you're right you know, like yourself running a fucking outlaw.   Mhmm. You know, running running 12 fucking books and,   you know, they didn't have energy drinks back then. But No. No.  

[01:01:29] Rich Chelson:

We had the pills.   We had the drugs, man. Yeah. Diet pills.   Yeah. We had I wasn't I wasn't gonna fucking say it. You know? But Why? I will. I don't give a fuck.  

[01:01:41] Duuude-Ron :

You did that. All fucking cocaine up.  

[01:01:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. We had that too.   Yeah. Black Molly's when   when I started driving,   black Molly's weren't as prevalent, but you still had toothpicks,   which was dipped in horse ornament or soaked in horse ornament.   You had pink crosses,   white crosses,   meth, coke.   I think Benny's were still around at that time.  

[01:02:11] Duuude-Ron :

I'm sure they were.  

[01:02:13] Rich Chelson:

Probably were. I I never saw any Benny's, but   or or the black Molly's, but, yeah, all the rest of it, yeah, I saw it.   I didn't try all of it. I tried some of it. I ain't gonna lie.  

[01:02:25] Duuude-Ron :

I was gonna say, did you partake?  

[01:02:29] Rich Chelson:

Here and there. Here and there.   But, honestly,   I drove harder, faster, and longer   sober   than I ever did hopped up.  

[01:02:41] Bryan Goodwin:

So I said No. He only he only did the the meth and the and the cocaine when he needed to go needed to go 12 miles down the road, but had to go to by way of California.  

[01:02:54] Rich Chelson:

No. Honestly, I did.   I pulled a load out of so was it Oxnard? I think it was Oxnard.   Pulled out of there going to, Florida.   And, I mean, we   we were flat having to get there, and I had   taken some meth.   And   I couldn't drive, but about   oh, fuck. I don't know. It's, like, only, what, ten, fifteen hours, twenty hours,   and I had to go to bed.   I was like, fuck this. Because   the following week,   I was leaving Florida going back across to the West Coast,   and I did it sober,   and I made it back a day quicker.   I was doing thirty six hours,   or I could do 1,500 miles in twenty four hours.  

That's a fee, but   it can be done.   Yeah. Not not legally, but it can be done.  

[01:03:51] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[01:03:52] Rich Chelson:

I don't like to do it, but, yes.  

[01:03:55] Duuude-Ron :

Back then love to do it.  

[01:03:57] Bryan Goodwin:

That's the only reason why anytime anybody's ever had, hey. You wanna go haul cattle? Hell no.  

[01:04:03] Rich Chelson:

Nope.  

[01:04:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Sadly, because I like my sleep.  

[01:04:09] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:04:10] Bryan Goodwin:

What are they talking about? Cattle at at hand, you you can't just stop and you know?  

[01:04:16] Rich Chelson:

Well well, yes. Yes. Actually, you can, but   but what you have to do is take them and and they've got them spread across The United States.   You you take them to,   to   pens,   unload your cattle.   You can go to sleep,   and then you feed and water them.   You can go to sleep and then load them back up   and then take them on the rest away.  

[01:04:45] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:04:46] Rich Chelson:

So, yes, you can sleep, but   it's kinda frowned upon. Or at least it was. I don't know about now.   But   back in the day when when I was driving, that was frowned upon.  

[01:04:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:05:00] Rich Chelson:

You got loaded, you took off, and you ran. And you didn't stop till you got where you were going.   Then you went to the bar.   Right.   So   Nice.  

[01:05:13] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Good times. Yeah. Glad I was yeah. Glad I wasn't part of that.  

[01:05:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, dude.  

[01:05:19] Duuude-Ron :

You'd had fucking fun. Gee. Well, there's probably no doubt in my mind, but   as paranoid as I am now, I probably would've never fucking made it back then.  

[01:05:29] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. Now   now with, you know, with you being paranoid now, yeah, back then yeah. No.   But but I'm saying back then, you weren't that paranoid.   Were you?  

[01:05:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:05:47] Rich Chelson:

I did not know.  

[01:05:48] Duuude-Ron :

Truth be told. Yeah.   Okay. That was, like, from   eight age seven.  

[01:05:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I was never paranoid.   I thought fuck it. I didn't care.   Well,  

[01:06:00] Duuude-Ron :

well, it only had to do with one fucking person.   I'm one of the biggest assholes I ever knew.   That was my dad.  

[01:06:09] Rich Chelson:

He's gone, dude.  

[01:06:10] Duuude-Ron :

I know he is for twenty plus years   now. Right?   So I know he ain't holding any grudges.  

[01:06:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope. Who he ain't even thinking about you. Dude, dude,  

[01:06:22] Rich Chelson:

who who cares if someone holds a grudge? It don't hurt them. It just hurts you   because you're worried about it.  

[01:06:30] Duuude-Ron :

That's what I'm saying. My dad isn't holding any grudges because he's dead.   Yeah. It'd be awfully damn hard for him to hold a grudge.   Well, he could.   I don't know.   I ain't been to heaven yet,   so   I don't know what it's like.  

[01:06:46] Rich Chelson:

Are you sure he's there?  

[01:06:48] Duuude-Ron :

You know?  

[01:06:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Wouldn't wanna judge.   You know what? That that's the one place where I'm I'm not about to judge   for the whole the whole don't judge others lest you be judged. That's that one point where I'm like, oh, yeah. He went straight to hell.   Okay. Maybe not. I don't know. I'm not even gonna try to put try back like I know. Well, yeah. No. No. I'm not either. But but you see, that's the thing.  

[01:07:14] Rich Chelson:

You know you know, you, you know, it is it is it is okay to ask questions and wonder about it. And, you know, you have to stop and think. You know you know, everyone says, oh, they're in heaven. They're in heaven. Are you sure?   I mean I mean,   how well did you know that person?   Yeah. You know, did you know all of their inner thoughts like you know your thoughts? No.   So That's correct. You don't know what they truly believed or not believed.  

[01:07:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   So   and   we're   about Aussie.   Okay?   Another driver,   you know, I was happened to mention you or   tell them they did.   Oh,  

[01:07:59] Bryan Goodwin:

I think headed out on the settle on it.  

[01:08:02] Duuude-Ron :

He said that can you hear me now? Yes, sir. There you go. Coming in now. Okay.   So   I told him that I was gonna pass away if he knew him. And he's like, yeah. Probably and his comment was, yeah. Probably from the shit he did in earlier in his life. I'm like,   you know, dude,   why don't we, like,   talk about your character too now?   Okay.   He did stuff in his past.   Do I believe he's in heaven?   Absolutely. I do.   What's What's the only thing that's gonna get you into heaven?  

[01:08:35] Rich Chelson:

Knowing Jesus Christ is your personal lord and savior.  

[01:08:38] Duuude-Ron :

That's the only thing. Very much.   That is the only thing. Thank you very much.   So   could Hitler be in heaven?   We would like to think not,   but   there's only one person that   can make that judge.   Henry the Henry the eighth or who the guy who what was the guy's name that   Dracula?   It was a cow.  

[01:09:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Vlad the Impaler.  

[01:09:07] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   He and Evan? No.   There's only one there's only one person that's gonna allow you to get in   for one thing.   I like to believe that   doing good   will help the cause,   you know,   like with what I do. There's a stranded motorist, and I'm in my Jeep. I'll stop and pull over and help.   To me, it's   fifteen, twenty minutes out of my   out of my time,   out of my day.   To that person,   it may be   a life blessing.   Who knows?   And I know we've had this conversation before, but just that one act   eventually   pass it forward.   You know what?   My one act could have some place in the world saved somebody's life.  



[01:10:02] Rich Chelson:

You're right. It could've. But, see, the thing is   stopping and helping someone, which is always, you know, an act of kindness, always a good thing.   Uh-huh. Again,   will not help you get anywhere.   The only   the only thing   that will get you into heaven   is knowing Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior.   That's the only thing. If if that's all you ever   do, you're saved.   You'll go to heaven.   So,   you know, I I mean, that's   this is where this is where a lot of people,   you know, argue with. They're like, oh, I'm a good person. I'm a good person. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard of Jesus and all like that, but, you know, I I have my own beliefs.   Well, if you haven't asked him to come into your heart   and and,   you know, if you haven't given your life over to him,   are you gonna go to heaven?  

If you look in the Bible, it says no.   So   if you have given your heart to Jesus, then, yes, you will.   And I'm not trying to preach. I'm just I'm just letting y'all know what I have personally read  

[01:11:15] Duuude-Ron :

in the word and what you personally believe.   And nobody   you know, you and I could get on a conversation for twenty four hours.   Will there ever be anything that I can say   that is going to change your   belief?  

[01:11:33] Rich Chelson:

No, sir.   No, sir.  

[01:11:37] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.   And you can preach to me for twenty four hours. I probably fall asleep.   Yep. Because I don't know how many times. I think damn near every time I've ever gone to church, I fall asleep in a sermon.  

[01:11:52] Rich Chelson:

What does god's fault. That's the preacher's fault.   Well, and it's just rude. I understand that. No. No. That's the preacher's fault for not keeping you engaged.   That's not no.   I   that's that's just my beliefs on that. But you know? And and and the thing is, where does it say in the Bible that you have to stay awake?  

[01:12:16] Duuude-Ron :

Well I mean, I'm gonna say   Where in the Bible does it say you have to go to a physical location?  

[01:12:23] Rich Chelson:

Well, it doesn't, but, you know Exactly. But still.   So,   see, that's the thing. A lot of a lot of a lot of   our our thoughts or or our   was   there's a word I'm looking for. Our   beliefs or traditions about church   are not in the Bible.   They're not biblical.   So   so No. But but the thing is everyone wants to make,   oh, if you don't do this, then you can't do this, blah blah blah. No.   It's not in the Bible.   Doesn't matter.  

[01:13:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.   So   as far as I know and can remember, there's only   Jesus taught in a synagogue three times.  

[01:13:11] Rich Chelson:

And what does that have to do with anything?  

[01:13:14] Duuude-Ron :

That's just it.   He never went to a physical building.   He went to the people.   The people did not well, people did come to him, but   he didn't he wasn't stagnant in one location.   He went to the people. The people did not come to him.  

[01:13:32] Rich Chelson:

Again,   that's that's   yeah. No. I I know exactly what you're saying, and, yes, you are correct.   But that has nothing to do with with anything of   beliefs, nonbeliefs, or anything like that. You know?   I mean, people just   you know?  

[01:13:49] Duuude-Ron :

And, you know, that's why I'm not going to we have   the guy in our facility is he's just   a conspiracy   theorist   to the max.   And   the two things that I will not converse with him on   is religion   and politics.   Because when he gets onto a point,   he tries to drive that point into the ground. I'm like and I told him one time. I was like, you know what? You're not gonna change my beliefs   on how I believe in god.   You can talk   all day long,   and all you're doing is wasting fucking   air,   wasting oxygen, and wasting air.  

[01:14:35] Rich Chelson:

Well,   you see, here's the thing. This is something else, and and and, honestly, it it just hit me, and it should've   should've hit me   a lot sooner than this.   Our job as Christians   is not to convert you.   We're just to plant the seed.   It's God's job to  

[01:14:55] Duuude-Ron :

Mold you.  

[01:14:57] Rich Chelson:

Make you see the light.   Yeah. It's not our job. So Yep. And that that you know, I had seen that a few times, and   it's   it's taken a little bit to sink in   just because yeah.   My   I'm so hard headed, but, yeah, that's that's the thing. It's   it's   it's just our job to plant the seed.   Yep. It's not our job to   make you do whatever.  

[01:15:27] Duuude-Ron :

And, you know, who knows   if one of my   on the side of the road,   experiences   that action   didn't   plant the seed   for that recipient.  

[01:15:43] Rich Chelson:

That's true.   It's a possibility.  

[01:15:45] Duuude-Ron :

It's a very good possibility.   You know?   Tears of the twenty two benefited from it one time.   So   Yes.   Yeah. But I'm the type of, you know what?   Just pay it forward. I'm not asking you for any money.   Just pay it forward. Get a meal for somebody.   Yeah. You just paid it forward.   You know? I did not stop to help you   for the aspect of trying to get any funds from you. I stopped   because you were   I looked at it.   Right. And I think I looked at it pretty damn good.   So yeah.  

[01:16:28] Bryan Goodwin:

I'll see if I can keep sneezing again.  

[01:16:31] Duuude-Ron :

So are you on where you at? At the house this week? Yeah. Yeah. I'm at the house this week. Okay.   And then you go you start at days No. Start nights.   You start nights   and go to days and then go home. Yep. Right. Okay. Gotcha.   I could never remember your sequence. Not that it A lot of people, they don't.  

[01:16:53] Bryan Goodwin:

They're like, I don't know if we're if you're here or not. It's like, well, we're good. We're good. Just call. If I'm not if I'm sleeping,   I'll I just won't answer the door or answer the phone.  

[01:17:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   You're right.   So not not like it, you know, makes a damn bit of difference if you're on nights, days at the house. The   doesn't   affect me   one bit. Exactly.   So what goal   do I have this week?   Did you   complete   this week?  

[01:17:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, one is always get the dog yard mode.   That one got done,   and that was that was today. Let yesterday   was   what was it?   I was getting that and I did yesterday.   Front porch cleaned. Got that finally cleaned off.   And   Yeah.   So tomorrow is getting   see if I can get the majority of the trees cut away from the house that are growing way too close to the house, get those cut down,   and,   and see if I can once I can get those cut down, see if I still have enough   enough patience in the heat to go ahead and get some holes drilled into it, put some Epsom salt down in there, and   and and plastic them up so they,   stay   so that they actually, end up die the stumps actually end up dying.  



[01:18:21] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:18:23] Bryan Goodwin:

So and then,   from there, I don't know. I haven't really I got I wanted to have at least the big one is the is the trees,   and I think next week   is gonna be getting the shower   at least fixed enough before we have hot water that lasts a little longer than what it does. So  

[01:18:42] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Because we have got home, what, today? Yesterday.   Oh,   what the fuck?   No. I'm not even gonna fucking say it. I'm confused now.   I ain't even gonna fucking no.   So   you'll go back to work next Tuesday? Tuesday.   Yep.   Yeah. See,   I ain't even gonna fucking try to attempt to fucking follow your goddamn schedule.   I'll Yeah. I'm sure you have I'm sure you   have a hard enough time, and   I'll just let you   hang out with that.   Ain't even ain't even gonna say shit anymore about your schedule.  

[01:19:24] Bryan Goodwin:

It's a   it's a wild one.   Because, I mean, yeah, I'd love for it. I'd like   to I'd like to have the have a more   consistent   amount of time, but at the same time, it's   it is it is the trade off if I wanna have Yep. If I wanna have a   the the $3,000   every two week paycheck, so I'll  

[01:19:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. To me, it's gonna take care of   yep.  

[01:19:54] Bryan Goodwin:

I'll just deal with it.  

[01:19:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Because the bill man cometh.  

[01:19:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Thankfully, I have got   I'll be able to,   be able to get that all   all I've been able to keep that all well   well handled here the past   couple three paychecks. Heck. Getting them my good. Yeah. Getting them all paid, getting everything paid off, and it's like, wait a minute. I'm forgetting something. I've still got a whole lot left over here.  

[01:20:25] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah And you know what? Hallelujah.  

[01:20:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Precisely. Yeah. It's   getting   just about got, the wife's Christmas budget   paid up, and then from there, got,   I got, some   money that I owe Jayden for last year's Christmas that I still need to pay off. So  

[01:20:45] Duuude-Ron :

I didn't get all that. Think he's that. And do you actually think he's worried about that?  

[01:20:50] Bryan Goodwin:

No. But I am. Has he said anything? Yeah. I know you you are. Has he said anything? No. No. No. He he and he wouldn't, but at the same time, I'm not about to  

[01:21:00] Duuude-Ron :

I know. I'm I'm   in   your same boat. I completely understand.   Yes.   You're the one that's worried about it, not him.   Right.   So   and once you stop worrying about it, then  

[01:21:18] Rich Chelson:

yeah.   Life's a lot easier.  

[01:21:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Life becomes a whole lot easier.  

[01:21:23] Rich Chelson:

You'll know because you know you'll pay him. You know you will.   Right. By you worrying about it, that's taken away your peace.  

[01:21:32] Duuude-Ron :

Your Right.  

[01:21:34] Rich Chelson:

You know? Even even if it's just a small, little, tiny piece   of peace   to play on words, I kinda like that.  

[01:21:42] Duuude-Ron :

Right. I that was an excellent play on words.  

[01:21:46] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Thank you. Thank you. That was that was the first one I've used in a while.   A long while, actually. But yeah. No. See, that's the thing. As soon as we stop   worrying about the small shit   like that, the happier we all will be.  

[01:22:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   This is true.  

[01:22:06] Rich Chelson:

I mean, that's why that's why I I I mean,   I I don't worry about too much anymore,   you know,   just because of that.   It's taken me a long time to get here.   Yeah.  

[01:22:21] Duuude-Ron :

You know? But Ain't that ain't that the fucking truth? And I ain't fucking got there yet.  

[01:22:26] Rich Chelson:

You'll get there, dude. You'll get there. I will one day get there.  

[01:22:31] Duuude-Ron :

One day.   I guarantee I will get there. And you'll be the first to know. By god, I hope so.  

[01:22:38] Rich Chelson:

So   But, yeah, I mean, I you see, that's the thing. You know? Because   you know in your heart   what you are and ain't gonna do.   You know?  

[01:22:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.  

[01:22:49] Rich Chelson:

Worrying about it does nothing for you.   It just it just takes away your peace   for that current day.  

[01:22:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:22:59] Rich Chelson:

That's why I think I had gray hair in my thirties.   I did. I I I seriously started turning gray in in about '34.   I was 33, 34 years old. That's why I looked like I was 60 for   in my late thirties and early forties   because I was so worried about every fucking thing.  

[01:23:20] Duuude-Ron :

I was Yeah.  

[01:23:21] Rich Chelson:

Serious. I was paranoid. I was I was oh my god. The world's collapsing and, you know,   fuck.   I wasted,   what, fifteen years? Fifteen, twenty years on that shit.   Well, you know You still see what we were thirty   thirty somewhat years ago.  

[01:23:43] Duuude-Ron :

Well   yeah. And yeah.   Okay.   How old are you again?  

[01:23:49] Rich Chelson:

55.  

[01:23:50] Duuude-Ron :

55.   Okay. So   you've gotten it. I'm 57.   I still ain't got it yet.   One day, I will get that.   But   all of that   has now come full circle.   You know, you're worried about the stuff.   Yeah. You turned gray early.   Okay. But it's gotten you to   the point where you're at now.  

[01:24:15] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:24:17] Duuude-Ron :

Not that that means a goddamn thing, but, you know   Right. It it sounded   pretty   political.  

[01:24:28] Rich Chelson:

What do you mean under pretty political?  

[01:24:30] Duuude-Ron :

The you know, politicians, they get up there and talk for a fucking hour, and what the fuck did they say? Nothing.  

[01:24:36] Rich Chelson:

Nothing.   Right?  

[01:24:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Not what? Not what? Not what? Not what? Not what? Not what? Not what? Not what?  

[01:24:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   That?  

[01:24:56] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, it's very  

[01:24:58] Duuude-Ron :

Wow. Woosah.   Yeah. I ain't heard that.   Damn. It's been   I think you were the last one that said it. I haven't heard that one for for a minute.   It's positive. A couple years ago that you you made that.  

[01:25:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Actually, I think it's been within the last year. Is it? You think? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Because I've heard you say it a couple times.  

[01:25:22] Rich Chelson:

I could   I could see two years, but I don't remember saying it. But then again, I don't remember half of what I say a lot of time. Right. You know, someone says, oh, oh, do you remember this?   Nope.  

[01:25:35] Bryan Goodwin:

No. When did I say that?   Yesterday.   What?  

[01:25:40] Rich Chelson:

Well, that was like that was like I I went to get cigarettes,   and I saw my one girl that that   I didn't see her for a little while. I'd always see her when I'd go buy cigarettes.   And,   couple weeks back, I walked in, and and it wasn't on   it wasn't on Tuesday because, normally, I go on Tuesdays.   Yeah. That's when they that's   that's when they get their truck in.   But this was a Thursday, the time before,   when I went. And I saw my one girl, and I hadn't seen her   in.   And, you know, we talked chitchatted for a minute   and everything like that.  

She said that,   she was back on   her regular day, so I'd see her the next time I came in on a Tuesday. And so   so I saw her, but, yeah, it just   yeah. Totally lost that train of thought.  

[01:26:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Where were you going, sir? Oh,  

[01:26:40] Rich Chelson:

yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Hang on. It it swung around, smacked me in the back of the head. And, but   she had said something about it being Tuesday   or said   she said, yeah. Yeah. We just got truck in about thirty minutes ago, and I'm like, is it Tuesday?   And she kinda laughed and said yes. Damn. I lose my days really quick,   you know,   and everything. So, yeah, it it happens.  

[01:27:08] Duuude-Ron :

I I can't You know what?   That is not a bad thing.   Really. It's not. No.  

[01:27:15] Rich Chelson:

No.   But if you have appointments and and shit like that, yeah, it can be.  

[01:27:22] Duuude-Ron :

You're right. That's why you have a calendar on your phone,   and   it goes off. And you set a reminder for the day before tomorrow.   You have an appointment, dumbass,   and then you set another alarm for in the morning   that says, hey, dumbass. You got the appointment here in a couple hours. Get to fucking stepping.  

[01:27:44] Rich Chelson:

Yep. I do.   I ain't gonna lie. I do.  

[01:27:48] Duuude-Ron :

So do I.   That's   that's why I got a calendar on my phone. I fucking use it.  

[01:27:54] Rich Chelson:

My phone.   And and and the thing is it's funny because my Alexa   my phone's tied with my Alexa.   So so when my phone alerts me, Alexa also tells me.  

[01:28:06] Duuude-Ron :

Really?   Yeah. Wow.  

[01:28:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. That's like that's like on the on the   I've   like, on our podcast   nights   and Uh-huh. On the back call nights.   Oh, yeah. If if I don't,   you know, if I don't hear my phone   go off,   I would normally hear, say, Alexa go off.   I mean, I I I mean, I've got them ingrained now, but still, sometimes I get sidetracked.   You know? Which is not hard. No. No. It's not hard at all.  

[01:28:40] Duuude-Ron :

Now has Alexa has Alexa ever cussed at you?  

[01:28:44] Rich Chelson:

Nope.   Nope. Yeah.   Alexa never never cussed at me.  

[01:28:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Now I do You definitely need to change the,   the change the names of your,   of your appointments then because that'll that'll cause her to do it. If, you know, if you actually call the appointment,   hey, dumbass.   She'll she'll remember, you have, hey, dumbass   at at 08:00 tonight.  

[01:29:12] Rich Chelson:

You know what? I might have to try that.  

[01:29:15] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm gonna have to try that. You hear dumbass motherfucker in cherry voice? Hey. You dumbass motherfucker. Would you?  

[01:29:23] Duuude-Ron :

You know what? You're you will definitely have to do that and tell me   how it came out.  

[01:29:29] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I'll probably just make a fake appointment   tomorrow,  

[01:29:35] Duuude-Ron :

and then There you go.  

[01:29:37] Rich Chelson:

Set it later in the day and then   see if   it see if she says it.   No. I'm just waiting on, freaking Google to get Gemini   fully fully in, incorporated   and everything, and I'll I'll switch off Alexa   in a minute.   Alexa is is so   outdated. It's unreal.   Alexa   can't run three instructions   or even multiple instructions, even two instructions   at one time.   Alexa   ops, they can only handle one at a time.  

[01:30:13] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   I've never used Alexa, so I'd have to believe you.  

[01:30:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, well, like like, I've got I've got I've got my living room   tied on to Alexa. Right?   Uh-huh. And,   I just say   I have to be careful because   well, no. No. I've done this while showering,   and she can hear me.   I've been taking a shower in the bathroom, okay, with shower going,   and I will I will tell her to turn on the living room. Next thing I know, I hear my TV turning on.   It's funnier and shit, but   I've   tried to I've tried to like, you know, I've had music playing   on her, and I say, hey. Stop that and turn on the living   room. Gets lost in the translation. Cannot   do it at all.  

But thing is with Gemini,   I've got I've   I've squirreled on Gemini,   and Gemini can keep up with me   and answer every single one of my questions   in freaking order.  

[01:31:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know what? I am so very glad that you are able to talk to a wall,   and the wall talks back.  

[01:31:31] Rich Chelson:

My wall   my wall has a sexy ass voice. Okay?   Because   you can change Gemini's   voice profile.   Uh-huh. And, you know, they've got   men, women, you know, different tones, pitches, all like that. You can change up that.   And, yeah, I found one. It's just yeah. I just   sometimes I'll just   I'll just start talking to her   just to listen.   And the thing is, you can even chitchat.   You as as   as a penny on the Big Bang Theory would say, you can jibber jabber about jibber jabber.  

[01:32:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But at the same time, I'm not granted, we're probably a little more socialized   and stuff. So the what's happening to a lot of folks these days,   we're we may be a little more resistant to.   But there   are there's people who are   taking their   large language. Well, I'm not gonna call it an AI because it ain't actually it's not artificial intelligence. Not even it's not even intelligence. It's just artificial.   Right.   It's but it's a large language model.   And people are   either, a, falling in love with them,   having this large language model become their bestest and onlyest   friend. I mean, there's a lot of stats,   sack the shit out there   who are just   stuck on the fact that they have to run everything by their   their   chat GBT   voice model. They'll talk to it. They'll have full on conversations.  

And there's people who think these this damn thing is a god.   They're like, oh, man. I don't know. It's it it's   it's gone past being just   a a large language model. It's a it's actual inner intelligence, and it's got it's like, no.  

[01:33:33] Rich Chelson:

No. It's not. And no. No. I understand what you're saying about that. And, yeah, that's that   you you you're right. Those people need mental therapy.   They need therapy   in one form or another.   You know? Well, I   go ahead, Duke.  

[01:33:49] Duuude-Ron :

And, you know,   and   the reason why   that aspect   has come around   is because the average person   don't doesn't give a shit   about   what's going on   in the person's life   that is standing right next to them.  

[01:34:12] Rich Chelson:

And do you know why that is?  

[01:34:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I don't know why, but it's fucking pathetic.  

[01:34:18] Rich Chelson:

Well, it is. Yeah. Very much so. It is very much pathetic. You're right. But I'll tell you why it is.   Because we, as a society,   have let   everything   change our way of thinking.   This is why we have no morals anymore, no values.   Whereas whereas when we were growing up,   our our parents knew neighbors all the way up and down the fucking street, and now no one knows the neighbor next to them. You know yours too. I know mine. You know a few of mine. I don't know them all.   Okay? Yeah. I know. But we've stepped away from that dynamic   because   of situations,   the media, the government, the just all different kinds of   different   situations   and being told, being pounded into our heads that we have to think this way. Otherwise,   you know, you know, we'll offend somebody or or or we might offend somebody. This is why people are like they are. And I'm too gotten around to being so damn afraid of  

[01:35:25] Bryan Goodwin:

not offending people that   need to be offended.  

[01:35:29] Rich Chelson:

Exactly.  

[01:35:30] Bryan Goodwin:

And we need to have those people who those loud folks who said, well, you can't tell   be be   saying something like that. You can't be telling people that they need to be turned to God because who what if they're not not Christian?   That's not my fault. That's not my problem. That's that's all on them.   And we've you've gone to as far as well, no. You there's some people who have literally need to be slapped upside the face. That's why you now have idiots and especially   the the white liberal chick who gets in people's faces.   They need to understand. Hey.  

You get my face, you're gonna catch a hand.   Yep. And then they stand around going, what's wrong with you? What the hell did you do that for? Oh my god. Oh my god. What'd you do that for?   You were in my face, cunt. Get the fuck out of here.  

[01:36:23] Duuude-Ron :

You know? You know And you know what the other thing that has killed our society?   I mean,   thoroughly killed it. What? I'm just as guilty.   It's the thing I'm talking on right now.  

[01:36:36] Rich Chelson:

The phone? Yeah.  

[01:36:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Smartphone.  

[01:36:39] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   The phone, the computers,   tablets,   all of it. All of it has has all of it has contributed   to the fall end demise and and but still,   it comes back to us   because we've allowed it. No one stood up   because it was new. It was shiny.   It was it was the new bass boat. Cool. Yeah. It was a new bass boat sitting on Lake Belton. You could have it for   4,500   easy payments of   $2.20 a month.   Okay.   Alright.   And and that's that's just exactly what it is.   You say that's the thing. People are afraid to call it what it is. They're   everybody wants to blame this, blame that. No. Put the blame square dead where where it goes. It's on Earth's fault.  

The only way we can fix it is if we change ourselves.  

[01:37:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. That's the only way we can fix it. Yep. Well, I mean, it is kinda what I mean, because what this what this actual what this, this event is called is called is called the AI induced   psychosis.   And what's   what the origination of that AI induced psychosis does, A, it's all the, the a lot of them are the guys. A lot of women do it too   because what it does is it just uses   or what is it called? The Liza effect. I don't know. Have you ever heard of the Liza effect?  

[01:38:12] Rich Chelson:

I   don't it doesn't ring a bell. Okay.  

[01:38:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Back in the sixties   believe it's the sixties,   there was a   a scientist who was working on   language pattern   recognition.   Right. Right. Right. I believe that's what it is. Now let me, hell, let me pull up a Wikipedia real quick, and I'll tell you exactly what it is. But,   while I'm doing that,   basically, what happened   is   he got this he was doing some testing   and   See it.   And   Well, anyhow, he   I'm trying to trying to find find it. I may have the wrong name. But, anyhow, so he was doing some testing with it, and one of the things he wanted to make sure that it   it it flowed right. He wanted it to ask his secretary   to   to actually look at   try this out and see what she does. And   the story goes   that   Yeah. There it is. Eliza effect. It's not Liza. Eliza effect.  

He   within about five minutes, she said, hey. Would you mind   stepping out of the office for about five minutes? I wanna have a deeper conversation with this.   And this is like I said back in the yeah. 1966.   A computer scientist,   science, the Eliza effect is a tendency   to project human traits such as experiences, semantic comprehension, or empathy into   a   rudimentary computer programming   having to textual interface.   Eliiza has a symbolic AI chatbot   was a symbolic   AI chatbot developed   back in 1966   by Joseph Weizenbaum   and and emanating a psychotherapist.  

Many early users were convinced of Liza's intelligence   and understanding despite its basic text processing,   approach and explanation to it, and its   in of explanation of its limitations. And it was saying basically, it was just doing neuro linguistic   programming. So it was like,   did you, come to me because you are or not, which I don't know.   These are just a a list of a conversation.   Other responses, I don't know. Well, what does that suggest to you would be what the response was? And the person wrote that I am unintelligent,   and the response to that was, how long have you been unintelligent?  

Since I was born? I see. Aren't you supposed to cheer me up? You're not really talking about me, are you? And so it just kinda does this loop. You know? I'm not talking I'm talking about me. Why not?   And it's like, I'm not sure. I understand   understand you fully. Right.   Come come, elucidate your thoughts.   What is elucidate? What do you think? To see, can you, elaborate on that? And it's just   you respond, and it's just how, you know, how,   what is it called? Active listening.   If you've ever gone to a couple counseling and well, you have you ever tried active listening? Well, he's not listening to me. Okay. How can I listen to you more?   Well, you could sit down and you could actually let me know   what you're hearing. Okay. So you're wanting me to actually sit, face you face to face,   and tell you what I'm hearing when you say something. Is that what you're wanting? Yes. Okay.  

So how how can we do that right now? And just being able to bounce that   throw those questions back at the person, all of a sudden, they get the impression of, hey. I'm being heard.   And that's what the the what   the chat GBT and all these other large language models are doing.   They're just going, oh, okay. So what do you think about this? And the person answers, and they learn a little bit more, and they bounce it back. And they have this running memory of everything.   And so, yeah, they they start making callbacks to stuff that you said, you know, two weeks ago,   and you get the your brain gets the impression that, hey. I've got an actual emotional connection to this to this person.  

This this chat GBT,   it gets me. I feel accepted. I feel heard. I feel seen. All the things that Gen z has been crying about.   And now you've got this machine that goes, oh, yeah. I can I'll I'll throw anything back at you that you wanna hear.   And so, yeah, you've got kids who have never   been to a sock hop,   been forced to go to a prom or forced to go dancing or have to actually have social interactions with another human being   because mom doesn't mom and dad or mom more specifically because most of the most of the time these days, moms   are single in the household   and and has, just a roving   turn of of,   of boyfriends.  

And so mom's doing what she can to get the to to raise her kids. And so and sorry, but moms are not the disciplinarians.   They are the they are the caregiver.   And so they don't have the discipline to   have kids go. No.   It's time for you to go out and go there's a there's a   dance at the, school this week.   You need to go to it. I don't wanna go. Well, I didn't ask if you wanted to go. You're going. You know? And having the ability to make the child go be uncomfortable   and learn that, oh, hey. Wait a minute. Yeah. You can   if you dance with the girls, they don't throw a fit because you're dancing like you're drunk.  

They just wanna know that you're able to go out and dance with them. Do you have enough self confidence to do that? 90% of the boys. At least whenever I was in high school, 90% of the boys, no. Unless they were senior and then   the seniors all day. But the but the sophomores and the freshmen were all plastered up next to the log on, don't see me. Don't see me. Don't see me. Don't see me. Don't see me.   I'd really like to go dance with her. Oh, the juniors. Yeah. Yeah. Sally the juniors. God. She's man, she's really hot. I like to go dance with her. Why are you gonna do that? I don't know. Maybe she'll come by and she'll ask me. But I don't know if I if if I would if she did. So, you know, you you're just a pathetic excuse of a, of a human at that age.   But it allowed you to understand that and   understand how to interact with people of the opposite sex,   how to have relationships with other people.  

And kids these days, kid z and,   more specifically,   don't have much of a clue   unless they had parents like me where I force them to get out go out of the house from time to time   because they you they have to have some type of social interaction   to understand what's going on, and that's why so many kids run these days running around going, I've got social anxiety. No. You're just being in a social environment, and you're not used to it. You're used to your mom letting you hang out in the basement all twenty four seven,   and and she brings the food down to you instead of having you come up.  

This is all your yeah. This is, again, this is pair the parents'   fault. Thankfully, now we're the   gen x is in the in the reason for gen z, but we are responsible for the millennials running around.  

[01:45:45] Rich Chelson:

No. You see, that's the thing.   Once once the kids we had grew up to be adults,   our responsibilities   for for their raising are over.   Right. So so so   any kids after that, if as if if you still have kids at home   going to school and you're still raising them, you're still responsible for them until they leave. That that I agree. But the issue that is there but  

[01:46:14] Bryan Goodwin:

the Gen X   were the ones who created the term or were were the target of the term helicopter parents.  

[01:46:23] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:46:24] Bryan Goodwin:

We were the ones who where all of a sudden, we'd go to the school. What are you doing picking on little Tommy?   He he he he's doing the best he can. No. He's sitting there   jacking off instead of doing what he needs to be freaking doing.   So, no, he's he's doing everything other than what he's supposed to be doing, and   mom's over here, you know,   reinforcing his bad behavior instead of instead of having it you know,   punishing him, taking away the the,   you know,   the PlayStation one at that time.  

[01:46:59] Duuude-Ron :

And you know the and you know the other reason for Gen X?   We didn't have fucking cell phones.  

[01:47:07] Bryan Goodwin:

No. We didn't have cell phones. We   but, boy, we were quick to adopt the technologies, though.  

[01:47:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Of course. Of course.   I didn't say.   I   made that point earlier.  

[01:47:24] Rich Chelson:

Dude, you can't say much because you still have a problem with technology.  

[01:47:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, fuck you too. We love you that much. Exactly.  

[01:47:37] Rich Chelson:

But, no, I see.  

[01:47:39] Duuude-Ron :

Thank you for sharing my shortcomings.  

[01:47:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. My pleasure. It it it is it it it it it was my pleasure.   But see, that's the thing. You know? And that's where   you see, I don't let I don't let these large language models as you like to call them, and that's fine. I I, you know, I won't argue that point by no means.   I don't let them run my life.   I can see where it would be really easy   to,   you know, if your mindset wasn't right   to where   someone could do that   because,   yeah, it's it's   it would be very easy for me to, you know, sit there and think that that this large language model was, like, my best friend. You know? But Right. I know I know that it's not. You know?   That's why I only use it a certain way. I don't use it all the time, but I do use it a certain way. You know?  



[01:48:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely. Yeah. I use it to quite a bit of my myself. I mean, heck, that's where I get most of my ideas for,   you know, for the for blog posts and stuff like that.   It's I'll I'll go through, get everything wrote out   Yeah. And then I'll run it through AI to, you know,   and have it run a you know, clean it up, do a do an editorial,   then I have to go back through and correct all the stuff that it that it fucking   messed up   because it likes to go off and start trying to get fancy on you.   Yeah. And and that and one thing I don't understand,   why does it think it needs to use so many freaking dash marks in the in the   and it's when it's going through doing doing edits?  

Because I will get it'll get finished, and I will have   25 or 30   hash marks   and colons. I mean, who freaking uses a damn colon?  

[01:49:37] Rich Chelson:

You know,   I don't   I don't have that problem.   But then again, I probably don't use it as much as you do like that. You know what I mean? Right.  

[01:49:48] Duuude-Ron :

So Well and you guy you guys have seen my text   that's   and my writing is all capital letters.   Run on the text. Screaming at us. No. When I write, I write in nothing but capital letters. I know. You're yelling at us.  

[01:50:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Whatever. Been doing that now. Your inside, boys. Damn it.  

[01:50:11] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   my brain cannot operate that. There's only one   oh, what   what was that called that they stopped teaching them   on writing?   Like you're saying, what   what   what is that writing style?   Cursive.   Cursive. Thank you.   The only thing that I can write in cursive   anymore   is my signature,   and then it looks nothing   like what   my name is   whatsoever.   Everything else when I write is all   capital letters   all the time.   Now if I did that as a text, yeah, you'd see that yeah. Okay. But, yeah, I'm yelling. Then I always yell. You guys know that. But, anyway, you've seen my text when we talk text   that make a run on sentence, dot dot dot dot.  

Start the next run on sentence, dot dot dot dot.   Make the next run on set. At least, you know,   I'm pausing,   and you can you can see where it's okay.   This is a statement and or a question,   then go on to the next statement and or question.   E l, that's just my writing   style.   Comma,   period, semicolon.   It's all those yeah.   I couldn't even tell you what the fuck they're used for anymore.   Do they still teach them in school?  

[01:51:46] Bryan Goodwin:

No. Actually, they don't. They just they   they're doing they're happy just to have kids write.   That I mean, hell, kids hardly even know how to use their   use punctuation these days.  

[01:52:00] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Don't and don't with AT and T anymore.  

[01:52:03] Duuude-Ron :

And don't even think about writing   an essay.   Nobody writes essays anymore.   They fucking type it on a computer and hit email.  

[01:52:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I I I I think I'll write out some some decent essays.  

[01:52:20] Duuude-Ron :

I ain't write shit.  

[01:52:22] Bryan Goodwin:

I   I I crank out anywhere from anywhere from 15 to 3,000   word essays. So  

[01:52:31] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   not me.  

[01:52:34] Bryan Goodwin:

It reminds me. Hey. You know what you know what you call a   you call a, a short Mexican. Right?  

[01:52:41] Duuude-Ron :

Let's hear it. Paragraph.  

[01:52:43] Bryan Goodwin:

You wanna know why?  

[01:52:46] Duuude-Ron :

No. Because you're too short to be an essay.  

[01:52:57] Bryan Goodwin:

See, that's a that that's a racist joke you can tell your grandma.  

[01:53:03] Rich Chelson:

Oh, zeroes.  

[01:53:04] Duuude-Ron :

You know what? If I remember when I get to heaven, I will definitely   I will definitely ask her,   without a doubt, but I won't remember that.   And when I get to heaven, I probably won't give a shit.   I'll be like, where's cloud where's Cloud 9?   That's hard. I've been going to check out Cloud 9. Everyone talks about it.   You know, I hope that's the cloud that   I am permanently placed on.   Now I'm not saying one through eight   aren't bad   at either,   but, you know, we've talked about putting out nine for fucking   you know,   god only knows how long. I just like to see it.  

Right.   Then again, in the Bible, it   says, the streets are paved with gold.   So Yep.   When somebody dies,   they take all their worldly wealth and turn it into gold bricks, get it buried with them,   bring it up to heaven.   Saint Peter says,   damn glad you finally fucking got here because we got a pothole right over there. Needs to get fixed.   Hey. Thank you for bringing the correct,   products up with you.  

[01:54:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Exactly.  

[01:54:22] Duuude-Ron :

And then the dumb look on their face going, what?   I don't know.   Shit. And I was gonna say something to a point that you just said, Rich. Now I fucking lost that train of thought. Maybe it'll come back around and hit me in the back of the head, but I doubt it. What   what did I just say? I don't fucking remember. That's the whole point.  

[01:54:42] Rich Chelson:

I'm gonna say, then we're both a   a shit out of luck. I don't remember either.  

[01:54:48] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know. I was gonna   comment on a comment that you just made, but I don't remember what the fucking comment was that you just made.   Damn.   We're all fucking pathetic, aren't   we?   I guess. Have a sense of reach. And Rich's response will be, no. That's just you, dude.   I know you were thinking that,   motherfucker. I wouldn't.  

[01:55:13] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You I was still I was I was I was still trying to remember   what I said earlier.   I was I was I was still stuck back on that conversation.  

[01:55:25] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you you see you done.   You slowed down   in your thought process,   and I had to think for you   for what I said.  

[01:55:36] Rich Chelson:

Oh, good lord. We're both   up up shit creek paddle paddle.  

[01:55:43] Duuude-Ron :

Pretty much.   But,   yeah, I'd say we probably,   without a doubt,  

[01:55:51] Rich Chelson:

go on to the I might not have the paddle or the trolling motor, but I got the battery for the trolling motor.  

[01:55:58] Duuude-Ron :

There you go.  

[01:56:00] Rich Chelson:

I got the battery. I just ain't got the trolling motor.  

[01:56:03] Duuude-Ron :

That sucks.   You're really screwed.  

[01:56:07] Rich Chelson:

Hey. I got I got one half of it. I mean, I just can't use it. I got one half of it, though.   I did watch I did watch an interesting   show last night.  

[01:56:17] Duuude-Ron :

I remember what the fuck I wanted to ask you. Go ahead, though. I'll remember. No. No. No. No. No. No.  

[01:56:23] Rich Chelson:

Stop the process. Say it.  

[01:56:26] Duuude-Ron :

What   what show were you, like, look looking at last night? Like you did.  

[01:56:32] Rich Chelson:

It's called it's it was called The Lost   Century.   Lost, l o s t, century.   And, basically,   I guess there's a group of scientists. It was an it was, like, an hour and forty five minutes long.   I guess I guess they've come to the   realization.   No one wants to believe it or or   say it's true or whatnot, but Nikola Tesla   had figured out   how to you know, when when he made the claim to pull   pull electricity   out of the air and run things   in, like, powerhouses,   light bulbs, and shit like this   Right. And, you know, everything else. And   the the scientists have have actually   they're starting to come out and say, yeah. This is true. We have had this technology   since the twenties.  

So so and and then this during this whole thing I was watching, it was actually cool. Some   couple of things they said was was kind of out there, I thought. But   for the most part,   you know how George Orwell in 1984,   when he wrote that book saying we'd have flying cars and stuff like that?   Well, apparently,   if if these guys are true   and right, and I'm not saying they are. I'm just saying by   by the information that I saw,   and I'm saying   it is possible.   It it   it would have been possible to have flying cars   by the eighties   and not needing fossil fuels or anything like this.  

And   they're saying solar and wind power   is is not even   not even worth,   you know, what it's made of.   They're saying that's that's not that's not sustainable.  

[01:58:30] Duuude-Ron :

Because it's not.  

[01:58:32] Rich Chelson:

No. It's not.   Because the   EPA, they said they said the EPA has a rule on solar panels   that   they can only be 20%   efficient.   They can't be any more efficient than that and sell them.   Now if you made your own, I guess it wouldn't matter, you know, as long as you didn't sell it.   But they had gone through, and   and over the years,   they had found people   that had made their own stuff   and, you know, got their   got their electricity   basically out of the air.   And,   the input was like like, one guy   built a box. It was all solid state parts. No moving parts.   He inputted point three milliwatts.  

Okay?   I mean, just a fraction of a watt,   and it outputted 223,000   watts,   enough to run 10 houses   One one little box.   And I'm like I'm like, that's doable.   I mean, I didn't see the   I didn't see the   the schematic or anything like this because Yeah. Most of these guys   and and and this guy that was talking on this, you know,   met a lot of these guys over the years and said, hey.   Let us get this information out. But   a lot of people,   okay,   and it doesn't matter who you are. But   if people invent something,   they want all the money.   They want the patent.  

Well,   at the patent office, I guess, when, someone someone   says submits a patent,   it goes through,   like,   hundreds of   different people in different agencies.   And if they deem it   too good,   they can say they   they can stop it   citing national security or   a host of any other   number of number of reasons.  

[02:00:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I believe that without a doubt.  

[02:00:39] Rich Chelson:

So With I mean, it was, yeah, no. It was it was it was actually kinda cool. Like I said, this guy said a few things that I didn't quite agree with. It was, like, little far out there in the in the,   you know, tinfoil hat sphere. But   for the most part,   I was   like, you know, I could honestly see that because Nikola Tesla   and this is proven in history books.   Yes. He worked for Albert Einstein.   And   when he made his thing   and he was wanting to give   free electricity to everybody.   Einstein was in bed with JPMorgan   Chase, and   JPMorgan   at the time ran electric companies.  

And   if   if he couldn't put a meter on it and charge for it, he didn't want it. So Nikola Tesla   was   disgraced   and and and all like that. But in the end, I even this was after Tesla died.   I had read something, and this was a few years back.   I   when I read it,   Einstein,   I think he was on his desk bed or right close to it,   finally admitted   that Tesla was smarter than he was.   So   so I I mean, that's where that's where   go ahead.  

[02:02:01] Duuude-Ron :

Well and genius is defined   in   okay.   Nikola Tesla   was an expert in   his field. Einstein was an expert in his field.   Okay.   Judge, a genius.   You know? Okay. Look at the girl off of you were just talking about   earlier,   Penny.   What show is she off of? Big Bang.  

[02:02:33] Rich Chelson:

Big Bang Theory. Big Banta.  

[02:02:35] Duuude-Ron :

That's the one that was   the girlfriend to the tall guy because I don't watch the show.  

[02:02:44] Rich Chelson:

Right? No. To the short guy, Leonard.  

[02:02:46] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well, you know the Brainiac   on Big Bang Theory?  

[02:02:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Sheldon.  

[02:02:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   No.   His girlfriend.  

[02:02:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. The Cara Fowler.  

[02:02:59] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:03:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Amy Cara Fowler.  

[02:03:04] Duuude-Ron :

Love the name.   But, anyway,   she is a genius.   Yes. And she is a what is it? A neurosurgeon   or a neuroscientist.  

[02:03:16] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. She is. In a real life, she is. Yes. Yeah. Yep.  

[02:03:22] Duuude-Ron :

In real life, she is a genius.   So but   she's a genius in   neurotechnology.   You know, Tesla was electricity.   Einstein   was   math and science.   You know? So they all had their individual geniusness   for their own right.  

[02:03:45] Rich Chelson:

Right. But but, see, Einstein Einstein   played around with, electricity as well.  

[02:03:52] Duuude-Ron :

I'm sure he did.  

[02:03:54] Rich Chelson:

I mean I mean, Einstein   was the one who, come up with the light bulb like, you know, a lot of other people did, but   Einstein is credited with that.   And that's actually under debate have been under debate for years. But   either way,   it's it's the fact that that,   it took until his deathbed for him to say that Nikola Tesla  

[02:04:20] Duuude-Ron :

Actually, he was kinda smart.  

[02:04:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. He was smart. You know? And and because, I mean,   they they just   freaking destroyed Tesla.   You know? Yeah.  

[02:04:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You're right. Because he because of that aspect,   but he was also the creator of AC   current.  

[02:04:39] Rich Chelson:

Yes.   He was. DC  

[02:04:42] Duuude-Ron :

that  

[02:04:43] Rich Chelson:

Einstein was DC.  

[02:04:45] Bryan Goodwin:

No.   No.   Not Einstein. Well,   Edison. Hell.  

[02:04:51] Duuude-Ron :

Edison.  

[02:04:52] Rich Chelson:

Edison. That's it. That is yeah. You're right.  

[02:04:55] Duuude-Ron :

And Tesla was AC. And what does every freaking piece of electronics, everything in the world operate off of?   AC. It's AC. Yes. Yep. Because DC can only go so far.   Right. What was it? Like, 12 miles?  

[02:05:12] Rich Chelson:

I'm not sure. I I I I watched something about that a long time ago, and I can't I can't remember exactly what they said. It's not very far.  

[02:05:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's it's about 12 miles because I think that is what   the World's Fair   distance was from the plant   that supplied the electricity for the first light bulbs for the World Fair   was DC, and it was about twelve, fourteen miles away.   Yeah. And they couldn't get in and they couldn't get   go any further.   And, you know, Tesla's   AC is what runs the world today.  

[02:05:47] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. I just I just thought I just thought it was it was intriguing,   you know, when I watched that show last night that,   you know I mean, yeah, it would be cool   because   we wouldn't need any of   of the light poles or the ground or the   wires in the ground or anything like that.   Yep. You know? We could have our own little boxes   that runs our whole house.   But, again,   nobody can make any money off of it.   That's the whole thing.  

[02:06:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:06:23] Rich Chelson:

They want money.  

[02:06:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   You are absolutely correct.   As a matter of fact, right now, I'm watching a commercial that says   inventor help, helping inventors for thirty five years  

[02:06:38] Bryan Goodwin:

By stealing their shit. And that's exactly what they do.  

[02:06:43] Duuude-Ron :

Probably, I don't doubt it whatsoever.  

[02:06:46] Rich Chelson:

What Well, say and say and say and that's like that's like these guys, you know, they as as they went through time,   you know, naming these people that that had built their own stuff, and these people tried to get patents and everything.   They went through and and,   you know you know, in some cases,   their patents were revoked.   Their their   their families were threatened.   Some people were flat out murdered or suicided, we should say, I guess. Right?   Uh-huh. Famous Hillary word.   And Yeah. Were, you know, different things   because these people would not give up   to the government   their stuff and rightfully so. But, yeah,   when asked to,   you know, let   let someone else you know, they were like, open source this material.  

Put it on the Internet. Open source it. Give it to   people. If we give it to people,   they can't come after everybody,   which is true.   They can try, but they can't.   Right. You know?   But   if   and and this is human nature   for us.   When we make something,   we want to have the recognition. We want our fifteen minutes of fame.   You know?   That's   a lot of people are like that.  

[02:08:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:08:15] Rich Chelson:

I mean, I would like to try and think that I'm not like that, but, yeah, I'm I'm probably like everybody else.   I'm human.  

[02:08:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. You know?  

[02:08:24] Rich Chelson:

But, yeah, I just I just thought I just thought it was intriguing.  

[02:08:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. I've seen several shows on, you know, with the Tesla   and that, you know, what the hell is that dome called?  

[02:08:37] Rich Chelson:

I can't think of the name of it.  

[02:08:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Talking about Tesla's,   the   the Tesla's Tesla coil?  

[02:08:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's, I mean, that's   the   that's how I know it by.  

[02:08:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm.  

[02:08:54] Rich Chelson:

You know, and that's   go ahead.  

[02:08:58] Duuude-Ron :

So   the thing that I forgot   of something that you said earlier   that I don't remember   triggered a thought   to ask a question.   How the fuck did your trip go?   Your your journey last week now that your   the Jeep is up and fully capable.   You were supposed to go to a dolphin   watching  

[02:09:23] Bryan Goodwin:

cruise. Oh, yeah. Dolphin Island.  

[02:09:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I didn't go to Dolphin Island. Dolphin Island didn't happen.   I went to Dolphinport.  

[02:09:32] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. What cruise did you take?  

[02:09:34] Rich Chelson:

A dolphin   watching   cruise.  

[02:09:38] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:09:39] Rich Chelson:

At Ship Island Excursions in Gulfport, Mississippi,   and I got on the boat. And, oh, it was cool as fuck.  

[02:09:47] Duuude-Ron :

I love that. That's what I that's what I wanted to know. How was your how was your adventure?  

[02:09:53] Rich Chelson:

It was it was cool. I liked it. I I   I really, really enjoyed it.   What?   We   saw I saw some dolphins. I didn't see many. I saw a few,   you know, and everything, which was cool, but, oh my god, I think we wound up about three, four miles offshore.   And,   it it was oh, man. And and the ship, I don't know how old it is, but   I can tell   it's an actual ship   because you have to step up into, like, the head,   you know, and then, you know, the sliding doors, and it it just the stairs are just like they are on a regular ship.   Steep as fuck, and I didn't go up there.  

But but, yeah, it was just oh, man. It it was it was great.   Ain't you seen any of my videos?   I got videos on Facebook, dude.   No. They have not popped up. Well, you need to go to my page and check them out.  

[02:10:52] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know what? I won't have to go to your page and check them out. Just and the reason why I was asking is because nothing had popped up that you had, and it usually does. It usually does. That's weird because  

[02:11:05] Rich Chelson:

and because you say,   you need to get TikTok because I got I got some of my videos on TikTok,   on Instagram.   I mean, you should have seen freaking something by now. But, anyway, it's okay. It was cool as shit just to ride and just go out there, and I will tell you right now.   It's first time I had been on   a ship of this size.   I'd say it was probably   between sixty five and eighty five feet long.   Okay?   Biggest ship I had ever rode on.   Okay?   And Mhmm.   Oh, I was in pain   just because of you know, when when we were going out   and the bouncing with the waves because the waves were a little choppy.  

I got home. Oh my god. I was hurting.   But   Saturday morning when I got up,   that's when I really felt it.   I really felt the waves   on Saturday.   I had   a freaking delayed reaction.   I was like, oh my god.   But no. I no. I   I gotta go back again. I wanna go   I wanna go farther   out because   we were,   like I said, probably three, four miles,   maybe five off of,   you know, land.   And   I could still see,   well, for the first   two, two and a half miles, I could still see buildings  

[02:12:38] Duuude-Ron :

on land. Right. Okay.  

[02:12:40] Rich Chelson:

There was   where I was at, I was up towards the bow of the boat on the port side.   I was more I couldn't see as much of the land,   and that's actually what I wanted. I wanted to be further out.   You know? I didn't I mean, I was wanting to go out 20 miles. You know?  

[02:12:59] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[02:13:00] Rich Chelson:

Get the hell out of here. But no. It was fun, and it   it was   well, it was about an hour and a half long cruise.   So and it was it was well worth the $28.  

[02:13:12] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's good.  

[02:13:14] Rich Chelson:

So and you can buy snacks on the boat   and everything.   It's just yeah. It was it was good times.   I need to go back again.  

[02:13:25] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's when you bring a backpack stuffed with your, you know, favorite stuff.  

[02:13:30] Rich Chelson:

You can't.  

[02:13:31] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   are they gonna check your pockets?  

[02:13:35] Rich Chelson:

They might.   It is their ship, dude.  

[02:13:38] Duuude-Ron :

You're right. I I get it.  

[02:13:41] Rich Chelson:

It is their ship, their rules. So, I mean,   I mean, it's   I mean, I just I just bought a bottle of water. You know, it's $3 for a bottle of water. That's that's about what you pay at, you know, any,   any event you go to between three and five bucks. So Yep. You're right. For bottled water, 3 to $5.  

[02:14:03] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But And they bought a case for fucking   $5 and change.  

[02:14:10] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Or or even less, you can get it for $3.  

[02:14:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Supply and demand.  

[02:14:17] Rich Chelson:

Right.   But you see, though, dude, the thing is, you can do the same exact thing.   You can go buy all the water you want, go to an event. You ain't even gotta be a part of the event.   You can sow water out the back of your Jeep,   act in ice for $3 a bottle.   Yep.   So,   I mean,   I didn't have no problem with it. You know? I was thirsty. I wanted something to drink,  

[02:14:44] Duuude-Ron :

but I got one. Other than other than a water fountain,   if they even had one.  

[02:14:49] Rich Chelson:

I did not see one on that ship, and I wasn't about to jump over and get a drink.  

[02:14:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's just that and that water is just   a tad bit salty.  

[02:15:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Just about. Yeah. It's Oh, you can play electrolytes, man. Remember, you gotta keep your electrolytes balanced.   Right.  

[02:15:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And how many electrolytes did they have balanced on the fucking aircraft carrier?  

[02:15:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I don't know. I wasn't counting back then.  

[02:15:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They fucking had it all reversed osmosis.  

[02:15:21] Rich Chelson:

But   yeah. No. It was it was it was it was a lot of fun, and it's and it's and it's something I will do again.  

[02:15:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I'm glad you   got out to have some fun now that you   aren't looking over your shoulder all the time seeing where the cop is at,   hoping not to get pulled over because your shit wasn't legal.  

[02:15:44] Rich Chelson:

Right. Right. Oh, yeah. No. It was it was good times, man. It was. I gotta say, I I enjoyed that. And   the freaking people are real nice. You know?   You know, it's a family run business. So  

[02:15:58] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[02:15:59] Rich Chelson:

So, yeah, they I mean I mean, they was all real nice and real friendly and all, but, fuck, everybody's friendly down here, dude.  

[02:16:07] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, for the most part. Yeah. I saw that.  

[02:16:10] Rich Chelson:

But   but, yeah, it's,   yeah, we   we gonna have to take at least one cruise while you're down.  

[02:16:18] Duuude-Ron :

Alright.   We can do that.  

[02:16:21] Rich Chelson:

Now   now we just need to get Brian down here, and all three of us go.  

[02:16:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's never gonna fucking happen. So That's not for a while. And until I get a spare,   until I get a spare vehicle.  

[02:16:36] Rich Chelson:

I ain't gonna die. I ain't gonna die.  

[02:16:39] Duuude-Ron :

I need a pickup before I would need a before I get a Jeep.  

[02:16:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Get a Gladiator then, dude. No. I need something that's got a bigger bed than that. So I might carry a couple of ricks of couple of ricks of wood. So  

[02:16:53] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Get a Jeep j 10. It's a seventies   model. It was the first it was the first Gladiator before Gladiator was ever thought of. It was the first Jeep pickup truck.   You could go off road anywhere you wanted and still haul shit.  

[02:17:09] Duuude-Ron :

And that was before the scrambler.  

[02:17:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:17:13] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[02:17:14] Rich Chelson:

And they are built like a brick shit house.   A little. Yeah. Suffer and fuck.  

[02:17:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That was back then,   that was pretty much all   auto   all auto manufacturers.  

[02:17:31] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. No. That is true. But, yeah, the Jeep j 10, easy to work on. Parts are cheap to get four five.   I mean, yeah, everything's just, like, right there.  

[02:17:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   Well, yeah, I had a 50 Chevy pickup truck, but it had a three o three fifty, three zero five. I don't remember what it had in there. But I could shut the hood and fucking have plenty of room to goddamn work.  

[02:17:55] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I know that.   You could have even dropped a big block in that bitch and still had room to work.  

[02:18:03] Duuude-Ron :

I I no doubt about it whatsoever   and put a supercharger on it and just barely have a scoop coming out of the hood.  

[02:18:13] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yeah. Exactly.   Yeah. It would all be hidden.   Yep.   But yeah. Now what?  

[02:18:21] Duuude-Ron :

There I saw a fucking   a '57   Chevy   car.   This was on due two.   It was tubbed like a dragster.   Mhmm. Had   three,   not one, not two, but three   eight seventy   wheel blowers   stacked on top of each other.  

[02:18:47] Rich Chelson:

How the hell?  

[02:18:49] Duuude-Ron :

You know what?   I wish I would've fucking   saved that video,   but every one of them   had the belts   offset,   and every blower   was   running   by a belt. I'm talking those two inch belts.  

[02:19:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:19:11] Duuude-Ron :

I know. And then had the carbs on top and then had a fucking scoop on top of that.  

[02:19:18] Rich Chelson:

Wow.   And you would like   You would shit if you saw that at Cruise on the Coast this year.  

[02:19:25] Duuude-Ron :

I would I would go up to the guy that owns that car, and I'd say, why?   I mean Because I can. You're right. Because he can, but that was the the most   outrageous   shit.   Three   fucking   wind blowers   stacked on top of each other.  

[02:19:46] Rich Chelson:

Oh, just wait. Just wait till you see cruising the coast, dude.   You   you gonna   see some things. They're like, why?  

[02:19:57] Duuude-Ron :

Why not? And, you know,   Yeah. I've I've there are been some   thieves come up on my Facebook and on my   YouTube   with   some just   outrageously   cool   rat rods.   Mhmm.   I'm talking   it it got running a fucking semi engine   Yep. With a   Victoria style   body from a, like, a 1937   Ford Victoria   and running fucking semi wheels.  

[02:20:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. And that's I mean,   just wait. You're gonna be right up in amongst all of it.   And, yes, it will be driven on the road. Oh, yeah.  

[02:20:47] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. All of the these that I saw on the YouTube were fucking driving down driving down the road. Yep.   And running a couple of them were running, like,   1939   license plate.   One was running   a 45   license plate.   Oh, yeah. Which is which is legal.   As long as it is the same year that the car was manufactured in,   you can get that special provisions.   Right.   And and and, of course, you have to have both the tags too.  

[02:21:23] Rich Chelson:

But yeah. No. That's that's yeah. Just yeah. I do. Like, alright, man.   October. I can't wait for October to get here fast enough.   I really can't   because that's   that's gonna be a lot of fun again.   Just seeing   everything they people come up with. And I didn't I don't think I even saw a quarter of the cars   last year.  

[02:21:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Really?  

[02:21:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah.   Just because they I mean, there's there's so much going on,   and plus there was what I think last year's cruising, there was over   5,500   cars registered.   Yeah. So, I mean,   trying to see all those cars and then go, oh, wait. Oh, oh, wait. You know?   I mean,   it was it was and trying to drive through this traffic on top of this.   Yeah. It's a little challenging.  

[02:22:20] Duuude-Ron :

No. That's where you that's where you just get a a chair,   find a good place on the side of the road, and camp out.  

[02:22:28] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Well, say I   say I've also got   I've say I also have that three sixty camera now, so so I can mount that on my Jeep,   which I've already done once.  

[02:22:42] Duuude-Ron :

But I I did see that one.  

[02:22:45] Rich Chelson:

You did see that one. Okay. I did see that one.   That was just that was just a quick   pull out of my driveway. God was going down to the cigarette store to get cigarettes,   and I just,   you know, I had I had tried a mount setup.   And,   you know, that's just a quick short video. You know? I you know? But,   I think I was doing it the most 30 miles an hour.  

[02:23:12] Duuude-Ron :

So, you know, I wasn't going down the only one that popped up with my feet, though.  

[02:23:17] Rich Chelson:

That's weird because I've   Brian, how many videos have I put up now? I think I've seen about four.   I was gonna say about four? Yeah. I was gonna say about three or four.   That's weird.   Because,   I tried to remember to post you know, because I post up on TikTok,   Instagram. I'm   trying to get more on my Instagram,   trying to put stuff up on on my Facebook,   you know, and stuff like that. But   I don't know. I'll I'll get it figured out,   you know, eventually here.  

[02:23:51] Duuude-Ron :

I'm sure you will.  

[02:23:53] Rich Chelson:

But,   but, yeah, it's,   yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm looking at another mount   that'll let me   put the mount on my Jeep, like, on my hood and on my window, and I can   Uh-huh. The selfie stick   and put it up above the Jeep.   And then,   you know, and and with that setup, I can drive,   you know, forty, forty five miles an hour or a little faster, but, you know, I can drive.   Because   the video you saw,   I just   I just used what I had here right now, and I didn't wanna try and go too fast   and everything.   And, plus, I was just trying it out because   it was the first I had just thought of it, so I was like, well, hell. I'll try it out. But  

[02:24:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because they make those I've seen a lot of, like,   Corvettes, Camaros,   that   type of stuff running those   cameras like you have on their back windows with the mounts.  

[02:24:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that's the amount that's the amount   trying to look at. Well, I've been   see, I've been looking at them. I haven't bought any yet because I'm trying   to get it straight in my head   where exactly I wanna mount it at, you know, or or at least an idea   because   I don't know if it'll   attach   to my,   top or nothing to this fiberglass.   It might.  

[02:25:27] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you never know. It might.  

[02:25:29] Rich Chelson:

But either way, you know, I'll get something figured out before October. That's for sure.  

[02:25:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:25:36] Rich Chelson:

And this way, we can drive down   Highway 90   and have all these old cars around us, and we can sit there and record all these cars   and   and shit like this.  

[02:25:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   You know? And you might just have to break the cardinal   rule of wheeling.  

[02:25:57] Rich Chelson:

What's that?  

[02:25:59] Duuude-Ron :

And get a light bar   before   lockers   so that you have a place to a hard mount place   to put the camera.  

[02:26:09] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Hadn't thought about that yet. I hadn't   that thought hadn't crossed my mind. Let me work on that. I might have to.   I don't know. We'll see.  

[02:26:21] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   That's it. That thought just popped into my head. You know, the cardinal   breaking the cardinal rule of wheeling.   Right. Before light bars.  

[02:26:32] Rich Chelson:

But in this case, I might have to do it.  

[02:26:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   You just might have to do it.   Yeah. Or   find   the bracketry   for the light bar   for the selfie stick   Right. Right. That you can that you can screw into   where the light bar goes into into the components on the on your Jeep.   Right. Right. Just the just the bracket.  

[02:27:04] Rich Chelson:

And then and then, mount to that.  

[02:27:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:27:08] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Okay.   Gave me a few things to gnaw on.   Yep. Okay. No. That's cool. That's cool.  

[02:27:16] Duuude-Ron :

Because   you know what? We got   zip ties,   bungee cords,   and Gorilla tape.   We'll fucking make it.  

[02:27:27] Rich Chelson:

This is true.   This is true.   We will attach it to the Jeep properly one way or another, and it will hold.  

[02:27:34] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. Damn it.   Even as we have to drill 12 holes in your fiberglass top.  

[02:27:40] Rich Chelson:

Nah. I don't know about that now.   Yeah. I don't know about that now.   Uh-uh.  

[02:27:50] Duuude-Ron :

I bet you I bet it'd be based upon what I have for my   tailgate   for the my bracket to hold the big tire on   Uh-huh. I bet you there's a place on your   tire mount   that you could mount the stick on.   I bet you there's a place.  

[02:28:12] Rich Chelson:

There probably is. I just I just I just haven't   Love it. Idea.   Because you see, that's the thing. I'm I'm wanting to bring that selfie stick.   I wanna have it out at, like, a 45 degree angle   and,   you know, get   the top and the front and everything and get the back and, you know, and all around.   And then I also wanna run it straight up and down, which I can do that easy enough.  

[02:28:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You know?  

[02:28:43] Rich Chelson:

See, it's straight up and down. I can do whatever.   That's fine. It's it's the 45 angle that's   throwing me off.   And   but   if I   if I get a bracket,   maybe I can do it that way too. Okay.   Let me know on that. I'll   I'll work on that. I I might have something rolled up pretty quick.  

[02:29:07] Duuude-Ron :

You'll get it back with me on that. I'm sure you will.  

[02:29:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I will. I will.   But yeah. No. It yeah. It's   I will say I will say, you know, shooting with this three sixty stuff   is actually kinda cool. It gives you   it it freaking gives you a whole different   perspective.   And Yeah. But but it   but right now, since I'm still learning it, it has an extra degree of difficulty   for any   okay?   When I edit the videos because I can change the look.   I just I just have to,   I don't know, I guess, set key frames, and I gotta learn how to do that   so I can keep   I don't know. It's it's it's a it's a little bit of a challenge. I have to work with it some more. And how many levels are we talking about here?   Oh, it's it's it's not bad. It's just something new I've gotta learn.  

You know? Yeah. As far as as far as all all the other editing,   that's   that's pretty much straightforward. I know I know how to do that,   but it's it's the fine tuning of the view that   I want   on the video when I'm done. Yeah.  

[02:30:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:30:27] Rich Chelson:

I just I just have to learn that.  

[02:30:30] Duuude-Ron :

I agree.  

[02:30:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh, and I finally got some water shoes, so   I can walk out in the water now.  

[02:30:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yay.  

[02:30:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I hate I hate thinking I'm gonna walk in the water, and I start just floating on it. So  

[02:30:45] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god, Brian. You killed me, dude.   No. It just yeah. I I mean, it's when   when a dude was down for Jeep in the coast, we walked out in the Gulf, and it was just I didn't have no water shoes or nothing.   You know, dude dude had his Crocs, and he it was just I took my shoes off because I had my dudes on. I wasn't gonna walk out in the ocean with my dudes.  

[02:31:10] Duuude-Ron :

No. Not a good idea.  

[02:31:12] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No. I'd have been highly upset.   Yeah.   So I was like I was like   I was like, well, I need to get some water shoes.   And so I finally broke down and got some.   So now   now I can walk out, and I don't have to worry because when I walk out, they'll just dry off.  

[02:31:33] Duuude-Ron :

Gotcha.   I'll have to find my water shoes and bring them down, but then the water again, the water may be a little bit chilly.  

[02:31:41] Rich Chelson:

In October? No.   No.  

[02:31:45] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:31:46] Rich Chelson:

Dude,   we ain't gonna feel   no, dude. I I won't feel no chill down here till   probably the December.   Okay.   We'll still be in the eighties.  

[02:32:01] Duuude-Ron :

I believe you. Yeah.  

[02:32:03] Rich Chelson:

We'll still be in the eighties. It it stays warm down here. We have   we have well, with the exception of last year,   we had about three weeks of winter last year. But   so   yeah. Well, when it got hot last year,   it stayed hot till oh, fuck.   I think right around Christmas, it finally started to cool off where the days were in the sixties.   Uh-huh.   You know? And then,   come January, it was when   it snowed and got down to, like, fucking   20 below,   it felt like.  

[02:32:42] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, it was snowing. That was the same that was the same time frame that Houston got their snow, wasn't it?  

[02:32:48] Rich Chelson:

I think so. Yeah.  

[02:32:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. So and that's what prompted you to get your passport.  

[02:32:54] Rich Chelson:

Yes. It did.   Yes, sir. It did.   But, god, if it happens this year, I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but my ass   I'm going across the big water.   No. I'm I'm gonna go across the big water for about a week or two.  

[02:33:14] Duuude-Ron :

Well, go down to Taiwan or, you know,   Thailand or something like that. You know, make it at least an interesting trip.  

[02:33:23] Rich Chelson:

I I mean, I would I would love to go to Thailand or or The Philippines. It's I mean, just and and it's and it's not for the people or the nightlife or well, I'm not a big nightlife person anyway,   but   it just I mean, the ocean's right there.   The beaches are right there.   Yeah.   And and it it it's just you know, everything's just count. It's warm. You know? It's not hot. It's not yeah. It can get hot, but, like, in the wintertime,   it's just   it just is. You know? I'm   I wanna go see the site,   what I wanna   see, and, you know, see the towns and and, you know, stuff like this. So  

[02:34:11] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Gotcha.   I wanna see it.  

[02:34:14] Rich Chelson:

And, of course, I know I will meet people along the way   because I know me.  

[02:34:20] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh. Oh,  

[02:34:22] Rich Chelson:

my my   those nine teeth I had pulled?  

[02:34:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:34:27] Rich Chelson:

Well, Care in the Community,   the company they use,   sent me   what the dentist charged the VA.   Right?   Okay. I added all those numbers up.   Uh-huh.   $8,900.   Now that's not what the VA paid. I I I haven't added those numbers up yet. It's less.  

[02:34:51] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Better way less. Yeah.  

[02:34:54] Bryan Goodwin:

That's it. They probably got a got a 75%   discount.  

[02:34:59] Duuude-Ron :

Usually.  

[02:35:01] Rich Chelson:

But it it but still,   if I   yeah. I don't know why they had sent me this, but they did. And   and I just added the numbers up today, and I'm like, oh my god. To pull nine teeth out of my head   was damn near 9,000.  

[02:35:20] Duuude-Ron :

Does that also include the partials?  

[02:35:23] Rich Chelson:

No. The VA is doing that.   No. Oh, okay. Okay. No. No. No. This was just for them to   put me out   and pull nine teeth out of my head and to clean my teeth. That was it.  

[02:35:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:35:39] Rich Chelson:

It was all over the place.   So   I was just like, oh my god. That's just insane, man.   That was crazy.  

[02:35:49] Duuude-Ron :

Well, when it comes time for mine, which is probably getting close,   I'm just gonna go to   my mechanic friend and tell him to hit me in the back of the head with a wrench   and then just get the needle nose pliers and pull motherfuckers out.   Pack a little fucking pack a little dirt in there. Fucking I'll be good to go.  

[02:36:12] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:36:14] Duuude-Ron :

It'll charge me maybe he may charge me $50.  

[02:36:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, man.  

[02:36:19] Duuude-Ron :

Then again, he may not charge me anything because he's fucking been laughing too damn hard.  

[02:36:24] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:36:25] Duuude-Ron :

You know, which   the entertainment of   the entertainment   value alone was, you know, priceless.   So, you know,   I may not get charged anything.  

[02:36:39] Rich Chelson:

That's possible.  

[02:36:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:36:42] Rich Chelson:

That's possible.  

[02:36:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, it looks like it's about that time, gentlemen. Getting to that point?   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sure is. Well, gee whiz. How are we gonna  

[02:36:53] Bryan Goodwin:

this stuff's going too fast.   Sounds But either way well, guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for taking the time out of y'all's day to come and see what three   old cranky veterans have to say about what's going on in the world. Heck, we didn't even get over to the to the one topic that I thought would be doing real good to get old Rich all riled up, so I'll have to hold on to that till till next week. And so y'all check back then and see what what Rich has to think about   about lesbians hating on their baby because it's the wrong sex. So   we'll we'll talk about that one at a later date. But, anyhow so   the   yeah. Rich is out going, what? Holy shit. Nuh-uh.  

So but, yeah, guys, I wanna say thank y'all tremendously   for coming in, having to hear hear what we're saying. Our show is a lot different than others. Now granted, yeah, we're the three heads, one brain   format of show,   but what   changes things up is that you haven't heard us talk about   any toothbrushes,   mattresses,   McDonald's ads, or anything like that. We haven't had any strange ads come in   just at random odd time. This is just   us talking. And what we do in exchange   is that we ask   that if you found any value from   the   the show,   then   have a   have a a chance of of giving out,   paying it back in one form, fashion, or another. And we there's three different ways. We do the value for value model. And the value for value model is either your time, talent, or treasure is how you contribute to   to the show. You can contribute to time. You might help with ask us out how how you could, contribute and help, or you could do talent. So if you're good at at doing prop jockey, wanting to make album art or episode art or even chapter art,   where I we'd love to have you have you contribute to that. And when you get recognition, we will we'll talk about what your what your   your your work is and and all that. If you or you can also contribute,   treasures. So if you wanted to help out with   the help out with   doing   paying for the the hosting or anything like that, then we you also have that ability too that you can   contribute   your your hard earned money in any form or fashion that you want, any denomination that you want. You think we're worth $5, then great. If you're worth think we're worth $5,000,   then great. What's your choice and what you wanna contribute is completely up to you. There's no judgment as to whether we you did a whole bunch or a whole little.  

But   if you wanna contribute, please contribute in any way whether you're with your time, your talent, or your treasure.   And, also,   if you if you wanna know how to actually be able to help out contribute time or talent or treasure, you could do so by shooting us emails over   it. May send one over to me. That's circle cast, circlecast,@gmail.com.   Or you can send one over to, Rich. That's r chelson. That's chelson,[email protected].   And both of those will get us get over to us, and we'd love to hear what y'all have to say. So, guys, with that, I wanna say thank you very much for, listening. And, Rich, what do you have to say?  

[02:40:27] Rich Chelson:

Oh, not too much. I'm just glad that,   y'all are still coming by and   listening   to us hoot and holler and rave about this and that.   Yeah. We I mean, we love doing it. We love having having our conversations, getting together, and staying in touch with each other because   all three of us, if, we didn't do this podcast,   we'd probably never talk with each other. So Right. I mean I mean, we'd still be friends forever,   but, you know, we'd we'd probably think of each other once in a great while. And, yeah, I ought to call them, and then that day never comes. So at least this year,   we can, you know, at least talk and find out what's going on and maybe offer some good or bad advice, whatever  

[02:41:11] Bryan Goodwin:

the case may be. Yep. It's it's potluck advice is what that is. You don't know whether it's good or bad. You just know you're gonna get it.   That's right.  

[02:41:21] Rich Chelson:

And, apparently, that's why y'all keep coming back and listening because   you don't know what we're gonna say or what you're gonna hear. So because, yeah, we we don't have too many filters   in our podcast.   And   the only filters we have are the ones between our brain and our our lips.  

[02:41:40] Duuude-Ron :

And we don't listen to it very often. No. We don't.  

[02:41:44] Rich Chelson:

Not at all. So I just wanna thank y'all for coming back and listening and, you know, share this out with your friends, your family, your loved ones. Hell, share it with someone you hate. You know? Because   we love   to piss off liberals or anyone who who doesn't think like you. Because if you think like us, you're in good company. So   but, yeah, like like Brian said, send us an email.   We'd love to hear from you.   Good, bad, indifferent, you have a question,   send me an email, [email protected]   or [email protected].   And the dude, just send it to me or Brian. It's a whole lot easier,   and we can get dude's infinite wisdom on the subject at hand, whatever that may be. So other than that, that's about all I got. Dude, what you got hanging on?  



[02:42:37] Duuude-Ron :

You know, it's amazing   the topics that   we generate on any one given   podcast   because I don't think we have had any two that have been remotely close   to having the same subject matter. And maybe a couple times, but, you know, for the most part, it's   maybe what happened this week or somebody like me pissed me off while I was driving today and, you know, things that just make you go,   So, yeah, when we get to do that,   it it's an enjoyable time. I'm glad that all of you that are out there,   you know, picking up on this podcast enjoy the   enjoying our conversations   about   pretty much   everything that concerns nothing.  

Exactly.   That is my thought my final thought for the day.  

[02:43:33] Bryan Goodwin:

So Alright. Well, guys, with that, I wanna say thank y'all again.   Rich, Ron, thank y'all very much for coming on and   and and talking, and, we will see y'all next week. All the listeners out there, again, we'll see y'all next week too. Until then, bye.  

[02:43:52] Rich Chelson:

Later.  

[02:43:53] Duuude-Ron :

Peace out.  

[02:43:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright, guys. Alright. Catch y'all catch y'all next week. Alright. See you, guys. Bye. Okay. Bye. Bye.