In this episode of "2 Grumpy Vets and a Duuude," we dive into the essence of camaraderie and intentional living. Join Bryan, Rich, and the Duuude as they navigate through humorous anecdotes and life experiences, emphasizing the importance of weekly conversations in fostering personal growth among men. The episode kicks off with a casual catch-up, discussing the unpredictable weather and its impact on daily routines, leading to a humorous exchange about the joys and woes of wet weather gear.
As the conversation unfolds, the trio delves into the art of painting, with Rich sharing his newfound passion for spinning art and the therapeutic process behind it. The discussion takes a creative turn as they explore the intricacies of art, the value of creativity, and the potential of selling art online.
The episode also touches on the topic of AI and its impact on the art world, highlighting the importance of protecting artistic integrity in the digital age. The hosts share their thoughts on the evolving landscape of technology and its implications for artists and creators.
In a lighter segment, the hosts engage in a playful debate about the comfort of Crocs versus Hey Dudes, showcasing their unique perspectives and preferences. The conversation is peppered with humor and light-hearted banter, reflecting the genuine friendship and camaraderie among the hosts.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the importance of staying true to oneself, embracing creativity, and the value of meaningful conversations in building strong relationships. Join the "2 Grumpy Vets and a Dude" for an engaging and entertaining episode filled with laughter, insights, and a touch of nostalgia.
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[00:00:01]
Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 Grumpy Vets. And, a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.
[00:00:11] Rich Chelson:
We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian Rich and the dude.
[00:00:35] Duuude-Ron :
Dude.
[00:00:37] Unknown:
What's up? Do you you the only one here?
[00:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Brian texted me, said he's grabbing food. He'll be on he'll be here shortly.
[00:00:46] Unknown:
Man, that Fucking slacker. You should've bought food or should've got food earlier. Damn it. Now Gee, Natalie.
[00:00:55] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. What you up to? Yep.
[00:01:00] Unknown:
Still trying to dry off from this morning.
[00:01:04] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. Really?
[00:01:07] Unknown:
Yeah. We got about 3 inches in an hour. Wow. This morning?
[00:01:14] Duuude-Ron :
I got up and, walked out, walked outside and summer was here. It was 70 degrees with about 85% humidity. I was in heaven.
[00:01:30] Unknown:
Yeah. You just gotta love that gulf humidity. Oh, yeah.
[00:01:34] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, that told me winter is fucking over. I'm good. It's like You know what?
[00:01:45] Unknown:
Now remember, this is only the end of January.
[00:01:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The yeah. Down here, things only go warmer down here. They don't get colder again because I I was down here I was down here last year.
[00:02:02] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[00:02:03] Duuude-Ron :
So, yeah, things only get warmer from here, dude. So Well, and
[00:02:10] Unknown:
well, and your joints and your bones and your everything else will, you know, enjoy it. I know they enjoy the fucking cold just like mine don't. And they sure fucking didn't enjoy the freaking rain we had this morning. You know, I wouldn't have had a problem if it would've started the downpour after I had strapped up my truck and did the pretrip and all that other stuff. You know? And then as soon as I got into the cab, it could have down poured all I wanted, but no. It had to start while I was at the house. And of course, where did I leave my wet weather gear at?
In the fucking jeep. Oh, in the jeep? In the jeep at the house, though. But, shit, by the time I got from the front door into the jeep, my fucking pants were almost fucking soaked. That's crazy. That's short of a distance. That's how hard it was raining this morning. And, of course, it didn't stop until I was fucking soaking wet and, you know, my heavy jacket was soaking wet. My wet weather gear was soaking
[00:03:26] Duuude-Ron :
wet. You know, I would have called off. I would have said, yeah. No. My drawers are wet. Sorry, dude. I can't go to work. My drawers are wet.
[00:03:34] Unknown:
You know? And it just it's always fun to have wet feet all day long.
[00:03:40] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[00:03:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I just absolutely love that.
[00:03:44] Duuude-Ron :
That's why that's why I woulda called off. I would have said nope. Wet feet and wet drawers? No. That's enough to make you mad right there. I don't care who he is.
[00:04:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Pretty much. Thank goodness I got a heat seat, heater or a seat warmer in my seat in the truck, just like the one in the Jeep.
[00:04:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, at least your nuts were warm. I mean, that's That's right.
[00:04:16] Unknown:
That's right.
[00:04:17] Duuude-Ron :
That's that's a little better, but I I mean, not much when it's raining that hard.
[00:04:23] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Not not much better, but it is slightly better, you know Right. To have ro to have roasting nuts. Yeah. That, you know, that just gets it gives you a a a nice warm sensation. Yeah. It's kinda like peeing yourself. You know, it's nice and warm, and you enjoy it, but, you know, everybody else can see it, but you're the one that's enjoying it.
[00:04:55] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, I'm I'm gonna take your word for it there, dude, because, it's been quite a while since I have, ido myself. So I'm gonna take your word for it.
[00:05:07] Unknown:
Okay. Well, it's been quite some time since I've done that myself, but, you know But it's just a nice, warm, comforting feeling, I'm sure.
[00:05:24] Duuude-Ron :
I I see. I it's it's been so long. I can't even remember, man. But yeah. No. It was it was like 70 freaking degrees when I walked out today this morning, and I'm like, oh my god. I mean, no jacket. No nothing. Just walked out and, heaped.
[00:05:47] Unknown:
What time was that?
[00:05:49] Duuude-Ron :
Like, 8 o'clock this morning.
[00:05:51] Unknown:
Oh, wow. 8:15.
[00:05:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's that's why it was like, oh, yeah. I can do this.
[00:05:59] Unknown:
So did it stay so did it stay pretty much a constant 70 all day long, or did it heat up?
[00:06:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, it warmed up a little bit. I I think you got 72, maybe 73 a day. Wow. Okay. I mean but it still it was yeah. It's springtime, dude.
[00:06:23] Unknown:
Yeah. We're supposed to be, they say, in the, low seventies on Saturday. Yeah. We're Saturday or Sunday. But we the clouds are gone. Clear sky now for through the weekend, at least.
[00:06:43] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that's And,
[00:06:45] Unknown:
and up getting up into the low seventies, so that'll be nice.
[00:06:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, and Brian made it. Recording in progress. Yeah. Exactly.
[00:06:59] Rich Chelson:
About damn time, you slacker. Hey. Hey. I was I was shit. Get my food, and goddamn they took forever.
[00:07:08] Unknown:
What what is your what did what did you get tonight?
[00:07:11] Rich Chelson:
Super nachos from, Taco Gassa. And that the only reason why I did that is because, the the barbecue joint that's right next door to it is too freaking
[00:07:27] Duuude-Ron :
expensive. So Okay. So in about an hour Jesus. Freaking age Christ. When they say supernautious, they ain't freaking lying. Holy crap. So, in about an hour and a half, you're gonna have to run back in and blow the bathroom up.
[00:07:39] Rich Chelson:
Okay. No. No. That's the that's in the morning.
[00:07:42] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. You'll let it churn all night long. Oh, hell, yeah. You gotta make it good.
[00:07:48] Rich Chelson:
You gotta make a make a good concoction to go.
[00:07:53] Duuude-Ron :
So
[00:07:54] Rich Chelson:
yeah. So how's everybody holding up today? I'm still trying to out. Whole lot better. Go ahead. Doing a lot better.
[00:08:03] Duuude-Ron :
Go ahead, dude.
[00:08:05] Unknown:
No. It that was just what I told Rich earlier. I'm still trying to dry off from this morning.
[00:08:11] Rich Chelson:
A little wet this morning, was it?
[00:08:13] Unknown:
We got about 3 inches in an hour this morning.
[00:08:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That welcome to Dallas. I'll tell you that that And Dallas didn't get that type of rain.
[00:08:25] Unknown:
Yeah. And Dallas didn't get because we had a guy go up to GP and, you know, and this was in, you know, before the sun come up. And, of course, it had to rain well and downpour while I'm strapping up the truck and freaking doing a pre trip and all that. It could've waited until I got all that done and got No. No. It was already finished. Into the cab, and then it could I don't I downpour? Come on. So, yeah. It's always nice to be soaking wet for, you know
[00:09:02] Rich Chelson:
Most
[00:09:04] Unknown:
of the day. Yeah. And Yeah. My boots are still freaking soaking wet. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's one thing I just have not liked even I mean, the military is wet feet.
[00:09:18] Rich Chelson:
Nope. Don't like them either.
[00:09:20] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:09:21] Rich Chelson:
So but now I mean and and your your ordeal is kinda similar to to mine whenever it comes along raining or correction. Oh, boy. That pepper was a little hot.
[00:09:45] Unknown:
Oh, you want some you want some hot peppers?
[00:09:48] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Not necessarily, but Oh, okay. I mean, there's just I've been saying I could jalapeno peppers, but boy, that one slapped the back of my throat and was gonna hang on to my tonsils for a little while.
[00:09:59] Unknown:
Oh, I could, I can get you some from a friend of mine that will not only hang onto your tonsils, but it will burn from start to finish. To finish. I mean, you'll be blowing flames out your asshole.
[00:10:18] Rich Chelson:
I believe it. I've I've had I mean, I've habaneros are the the hottest fresh thing that I can eat, and I will feel that the whole trip. Yeah. He's got some everywhere in my body that is that it's at at the moment. It was an experience. But,
[00:10:40] Unknown:
so, yeah, so like some that goes he's got some that goes into the million Schofield.
[00:10:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But I'm free. When it comes to, comes to, like, you're talking about the catching rain stuff. Whenever I am, hauling something that I do I've got the choice of not tarping or not. Yes. A lot of the times, if I go without tarping, I'm it never fails somewhere around McAllister. I'm gonna end up starting to catch some rain. And then and it so if I tarp, it it is the rain repellent. I will not get a drop of rain from start to finish. Now, if I go and I go without the tarp, it'll start to get dark in the clouds. It'll start to really bunch up and might even see some thunder and lightning.
And then as you keep driving, all of a sudden you'll start getting patters on the window and it's like, oh, some bitch, no. Maybe it'll light at night, light up just a little bit, and it start keeps pattern and pattern, and then it gets a little bit harder. Oh, son of a bitch. Okay. So gotta pull over, and it's usually on the side of the damn, side inter Indian nation turnpike. I will hop out, pop all my, pop my, my tarps, toss them up there, get them all laid out and stuff. And the moment I get the last one unfurled draped down the side, the rain will stop almost every freaking time. It's like, I'll be wet, and I'll we'll have you know, it's coming down pretty good. But it'll I you know, I'll be I'll be pretty well, not soaked, but I'll definitely have, have a shirt that is, that's clinging to me.
Yeah. And the moment I get the tarps all all draped over, it lets up. And by that time, it's like, I'm already I'm already, you know, 90% there. All I have to do is add the bungees. And so it's like, screw it. Let's just bungee it all up because yeah. And then there's been times that I've they've threatened rain sometime in the middle of the night, and I will sleep like a like an insomniac with the worst, with the worst case of it. Because it'll be about every 15, 30 minutes. Heard rain. Heard rain. I'll poke my head out. Nothing. Lay back down. Oh, shit. It was raining.
Nothing. Goddamn. I'll be tired the whole next day.
[00:13:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I I can I resemble that remark so several times? So, you know, you got granted I'm not sleeping in the truck, but, you know and my cargo can get as wet as it wants to be.
[00:13:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Those aren't half bad.
[00:13:58] Rich Chelson:
And, Rich, so what have you been up to?
[00:14:01] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I walked out of my porch this morning, and I walked out. It was warm, and the humidity was there. And I just held my arms up and went, oh. I was like in heaven. I was like, yes. And because it was 70 degrees this morning, about 85% humidity, and I'm like, winter is gone.
[00:14:26] Rich Chelson:
I was like moment.
[00:14:28] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. Down here, it's gone. See you later. Bye.
[00:14:34] Rich Chelson:
It's winter here. You're you're in, you're in early spring now.
[00:14:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you say I was down here last year during this time, and it was warm. In fact, I mean, I did have the strong thought about taking my top off today, but I didn't.
[00:14:58] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I wouldn't. You still got rain coming. Yeah. I know. Sometime in the near future.
[00:15:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I give it probably another couple weeks and, yeah, my top will come off and stay off. So And just drive around in the rain. Ah, yes. I mean, now a couple weeks, I said. So about about the middle of February in February, we shouldn't have much rain anymore, and I'll I will I will vacate the, the, topping doors.
[00:15:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But what happens to, to April showers or, yeah.
[00:15:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. That's just up north, dude. Not down here.
[00:15:42] Rich Chelson:
No. I don't know about that. We have hurricane season, dude. Hurricane season have hurricane season, but y'all also get, you know, y'all are still ever so slightly part of tornado alley, and so you're gonna have the thunderstorms rolling in in the spring.
[00:16:00] Duuude-Ron :
We didn't have many roll in last year. Oh, we didn't have many roll in either, but doesn't mean No. I mean I mean yeah. Yeah. It did rain, but, you know, it didn't it didn't rain that much. I mean, dude, trees are already budding. Okay? Okay. Serious, man. The trees are like, dude, winter's fucking over. We can come back out. Trees are budding.
[00:16:26] Rich Chelson:
We had our obligatory 30 degree weather. It's time to get moving.
[00:16:31] Duuude-Ron :
Right. I mean, I was, you know, I was looking out at the trees and, you know, I'm seeing buds coming out and I'm like, you know, and that's, that's only for the trees that didn't lose their leaves. And 90% of the trees don't lose their leaves. They lose some of them, but they have enough to keep covered with, you know? Right. Naked. You know, it's not like, north where where where all the leaves just vanish and leaves the trees naked. Not down here, man. You know, we got green.
[00:17:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. You've got your live oaks, which they'll those will make those are evergreens. Pines, cedar. Yeah. You got your pines and cedars and stuff.
[00:17:16] Duuude-Ron :
Magnolia trees. I've got a small leaf holly tree that stayed green. Yeah. I mean, yeah, dude. Most of our shit stays, stays green, literally.
[00:17:30] Rich Chelson:
Wow.
[00:17:31] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We don't. Yeah. We don't. Down here, you will see green. And we even when it snowed, you still saw green, and it wasn't just your cedar trees and your pine trees.
[00:17:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, I mean, we had the same way. We had, we have a I don't know what type of grass it is, but it'll, got little patches of grass in everybody's yard that it's it does really good and cool weather. And so it'll yeah. You'll get, you'll get some snow, and it'll pile up. And then whenever it thaws whenever it all thaws out and then it gets moisture, boy, that stuff turns green. Loves being loves it, being cool.
[00:18:15] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Now about April, we'll see, the magnolia trees bloom. They bloom once a year Yep. For about a
[00:18:28] Rich Chelson:
week.
[00:18:29] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And then they swallow up and then, then the squirrels will gnaw off them them buds and chunk them at my roof.
[00:18:39] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. So it's telling me that they can't be on your porch.
[00:18:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But that's just rude, man. Because it because I'm serious about inviting them onto your porch. Well, no. No. Because there was a few that that that was bringing acorns up on my porch
[00:18:59] Rich Chelson:
in last, like, November. Wanna know if you would trade, an acorn for a magnolia. Odd.
[00:19:07] Duuude-Ron :
Like, no. No. It it it it does mean no good. So, but now, now that y'all are here, I can actually show y'all this picture that I bought in the French Quarter. I got it on there. Oh, got
[00:19:26] Unknown:
finally came?
[00:19:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I came today. So I've got that up in the chat right now. Yep. Yeah. So it's called a night on Royal
[00:19:47] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:19:47] Duuude-Ron :
Which is Royal Street.
[00:19:49] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yep. Done by Omni.
[00:19:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. But yeah. No. I yeah. I saw that and it's like, that was just beautiful. Mhmm. Yeah. They had mentioned about hanging it over my piano and and everything, and I'm like, yeah. That would look good. And then and then I did, and I'm like, yeah. That that really that really sets that area off real well.
[00:20:14] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yep. Now you can't and now you can't you set the keyboard to just regular piano. Now you have to go off and do church organ.
[00:20:23] Duuude-Ron :
Church organ? Come on, dude. Not yet. Not yet. I'm still I'm still I'm still working on piano man, dude. I don't think piano man sound good on a church organ. Just saying.
[00:20:37] Rich Chelson:
Well, you got piano man with a with a with a New Orleans picture over it. This wouldn't be a that's a that's a mixture in itself.
[00:20:45] Duuude-Ron :
Right. And and here's here's here's one of my newest pitchers I did today.
[00:20:56] Unknown:
That was gonna be my next question.
[00:20:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. How did your, You spinning stuff yet or you still just dump pouring? Oh, no. I'm spinning now. I'm spinning, dude. Just just focus 1 in the chat. Oh, yeah. I I, I poured it on there once I all got on there and then I spun it. Yeah. Oh, man. I I love the spinning. Now Hey.
[00:21:22] Unknown:
Go ahead. Just to let you know, Rich, that picture that you did that you just posted
[00:21:28] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[00:21:29] Unknown:
FYI, that's coming home with me.
[00:21:33] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[00:21:35] Unknown:
That is fucking cool.
[00:21:38] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Okay. Hang on a little bit. Look at this next one I did. I I I did too today. And I'm not sure which one I like the best because they're both freaking they both turned out awesome. I mean, seriously, they both turned out awesome.
[00:21:56] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:21:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Got rich. She's turning into the alt east.
[00:22:04] Rich Chelson:
Well, it looks like the sun or there's moon shining through some branches.
[00:22:09] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that or or I mean, I was thinking, you know, because, this, second one, you know, looks like it's, like the inside of an organ or a heart or something, and these are the pathways.
[00:22:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh, well, I was thinking like I said, it looks like a sun looks like the sun or the moon shot through some branches.
[00:22:30] Unknown:
So Yeah.
[00:22:31] Duuude-Ron :
I mean Well, no. That's fine. Do you see? That's fine. You know? I I'm just It's not fine. It's my way. It's, it's the right way. Okay?
[00:22:40] Unknown:
Hey. It looks like a sport. It looks like the winning sperm.
[00:22:44] Duuude-Ron :
The winning sperm. Okay. Hey. I could name that picture that the winning sperm. That would be funny. But now this one yeah. This one yeah. And and this black one, I just fucking love this black one, man. It is. And and if you can zoom in zoom in on it. If you can, bring it up and zoom in on it. Yeah. Go ahead.
[00:23:11] Unknown:
I can.
[00:23:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Zoom in and and look at it because I used a lot of, lot of, say, a metallic paint. Like, the pink, the purple.
[00:23:24] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[00:23:25] Duuude-Ron :
The white and black were just white and black, but the other colors were, were a metallic. I just I just thought it turned out real well.
[00:23:35] Unknown:
Oh, oh, yeah. And then and then when it then then when they spread Yeah. You know, it it the metallic going into those areas just, like into the black. Yeah.
[00:23:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And see what that's like with the second one. I I used a lot of metallic in it too. And, the yellow, I think, is just regular yellow and it just or no. It's called sunshine, I believe. Okay. And, it just when when I was pouring this one, the the, one with all the yellow in it, when, I was pouring this one, I don't know how, but I saw the center, and then I started moving my cup around a little bit. Right. And then and then as as I was pouring it, I could see the different looks coming in, and I almost went right back to the middle of it. And I stopped right at the last second and then swung out on and then swung out on the outside because I'm like, I'm not messing with that center.
And then I kinda tilted the paint a little bit, and then I spun it. That's fun. Spinning spinning is a lot of fun. I'm telling you. So
[00:24:58] Unknown:
Is it just a slow spin, or do you get some speed on it or just all the
[00:25:03] Rich Chelson:
12 100 RPM, man.
[00:25:07] Duuude-Ron :
No. I don't go full bore, but, I'm not I'm not too soft with it. I get it going pretty good for Oh. I let it spin. You see, I can watch it. And then, you know, once once I see us getting close, you know, I'm just, I'm just mainly trying to spread things out and get them over the edge, and stuff like that, but still keep the look I see some, you know, cause a paint's gonna go wherever, but, you know, I can slow it down or stop it. And then if if I stop it too early, guess what? I can spin it again.
[00:25:51] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:25:52] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So, I mean, it doesn't matter if I spin hard or soft because if I don't spin hard enough, guess what? We're going for another round, dude. We're gonna spin again. So but, yeah, that's
[00:26:13] Rich Chelson:
these 2 these 2 are my latest ones. Rob, you definitely need to put those up on, up on the, on the show notes so folks can, who are listening will be able to swing by and take a peek and see at it over
[00:26:28] Duuude-Ron :
at,
[00:26:30] Rich Chelson:
over at 2 grumpy vets.com, and that's the letters t w o.
[00:26:36] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. No. That's yeah. I was gonna do more, but but I I I got excited. And so I I had to go, woah. Woah, Tonto. Woah.
[00:26:56] Rich Chelson:
Or you'd spend your whole month, monthly budget on on page.
[00:27:02] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. Because, yeah, I've got I've got another set of paints in my Amazon, cart right now.
[00:27:12] Rich Chelson:
I'm watching watching him come out. All of a sudden, he's like, yeah. I'm going for the big one. We've got a, we've got a 63 inch by 63 inch. You know what? Said we're gonna paint now. So
[00:27:27] Duuude-Ron :
I I haven't thought that far ahead yet, but, I mean, I won't say it won't happen this year, but then again, it might. But I might do a 20 by 30 depending, but I would need a bigger spinner because the, because the spinner I got is only is only 11 inches. Wow. So
[00:27:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's a little confining.
[00:27:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I can do I can do a, a 11 by 14, but that's about it. You know? Right. So so once I get a bigger spinner, then I could just, yeah,
[00:28:07] Rich Chelson:
yeah, swing it out to whatever. Yeah. Go get one of those old wash, wash tubs. Put it in the middle, and that way that becomes your that becomes the, the spinner and all that. And so, you know, we Yep.
[00:28:28] Unknown:
Well, yeah, the catcher. And a paint catcher.
[00:28:34] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm. Well, I would I would have to put cardboard all over the freaking wall.
[00:28:39] Rich Chelson:
No. You just put just wrap it around the wrap it around the around the drum.
[00:28:46] Duuude-Ron :
No. Because you if I got a washer machine and I was doing a, 20 by 30, I couldn't spin it inside the drum, dude.
[00:28:57] Unknown:
No. Yeah. You couldn't do that.
[00:28:59] Duuude-Ron :
I would have to set it on top of the drum and then spin it, which I could do there, but I would still have to put something on the walls so I didn't sling paint.
[00:29:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That. Yeah. Yeah. Throw paint all over the place. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:29:14] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, I could. Okay? I could do that if I wanted.
[00:29:18] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh. Yeah. You can make your you can make your room look like a Jackson symbolic painting.
[00:29:23] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, I could do that because, I mean, I mean, that's where a dude's sleeping at when he comes down for a jeep in the coast. Sounds good. No, dude.
[00:29:41] Unknown:
Psy or, psychedelic? Sure. Why not?
[00:29:45] Rich Chelson:
Put some black lights in there, strobe light.
[00:29:49] Duuude-Ron :
Lava lamp, shit like that. Oh, yeah. End of God's Divitas on repeat. No, dude. Give me about another week and, that black one will be yours. I'll save it for you. I'm gonna get some, craft varnish spray varnish. And, once it fully dries, I'm gonna spray it and to where it seals it.
[00:30:20] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[00:30:21] Duuude-Ron :
So so, yeah, it'll be well, see, that one I just did today, so it'll be probably tomorrow or Saturday when it's done when it should be dry, but I'll probably let it go for another 4 or 5 days, then I'll spray it.
[00:30:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Because acrylic takes quite a while to dry. Yeah. No.
[00:30:45] Duuude-Ron :
24 to 36 hours on the average.
[00:30:47] Unknown:
Oh, really? Yeah.
[00:30:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's water based. It's it's like, say, it's like latex paint.
[00:30:54] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[00:30:56] Duuude-Ron :
You can paint a wall in a house, and 5 hours later, it'll be dried to the touch.
[00:31:02] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:31:03] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, yeah. You know, I but you see, the thing is the reason why it takes 24 to 36 hours is because you use an ass load to paint. I mean, it's not an ass load, but it's for
[00:31:14] Unknown:
a small canvas. For the yeah. For the size and for the design. Yeah. I'm sure.
[00:31:21] Duuude-Ron :
So so, yeah, I'll just I'll just let it sit and let it dry out, and then I'll spray it, and then it'll be yours. Alrighty.
[00:31:33] Unknown:
As you call this I will have plenty of room in the Jeep to bring it back.
[00:31:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, let's hope. Let's hope.
[00:31:44] Unknown:
Well, got the vacation now.
[00:31:46] Duuude-Ron :
So Don't shoot yourself in the foot just shut, bubba. I got you. Jeep Jeep in the coast. Oh my god. There's a lot of stuff. But now that's that's about what I did. Played my piano also. I didn't do too I didn't do too much else. I wanted to do more paintings, but I had to ace myself.
[00:32:19] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:32:20] Duuude-Ron :
Because it was so beautiful out today.
[00:32:23] Unknown:
Yeah. I wonder if you start to get a collection of those. I bet you could probably put them on Etsy.
[00:32:36] Duuude-Ron :
I probably could.
[00:32:40] Unknown:
You know? I you know what? I guarantee you that if you started putting them up there and you start making them, you will sell them.
[00:32:50] Duuude-Ron :
And, I mean, that's dude, that is very possible. I mean, I'm not knocking that in in the least bit because you see the, well, on YouTube, there's a guy. I think he lives in North Carolina, and he doesn't say it, but by the shirts and hats I've seen him wear, I think he's a veteran. I'm not a 100% sure, though. But he does it, and I don't know if he sells them or not, but I think he does. But he does lives and shit like that, which, I mean, his shit is cool. He's been doing it for quite a while. But, you know, other people the bulk of the videos I'd been seeing are 5 6 years old, and this is back during COVID.
You know? Yeah. And everything. This is when everyone was like, oh, I've got nothing to do. You know? And this is when they did it.
[00:33:50] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:33:53] Duuude-Ron :
So and then now I don't I don't I mean, as far as the videos go, I don't see many that are current. I see a few that are current, you know, within the last month or couple weeks or whatnot, but I don't see many that are current. So I don't know. Maybe maybe people's, you know, are busy again, so they're like, you know, I'll buy them, but I ain't gonna make them. Yeah. But who knows? Like I said, I don't know. I'm just I'm I'm just having fun.
[00:34:28] Unknown:
Well, there you go.
[00:34:30] Duuude-Ron :
You know? It is it is WUSA. It's peaceful, man. Yeah. Like
[00:34:37] Unknown:
like So even if you Uh-huh. So even if you say you listed it for $20, is that almost doubling your in or your cost with the canvas and you may paint and all that stuff?
[00:34:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, fuck, dude. $20 is, like, freaking a couple 100%
[00:34:59] Unknown:
more. Oh, okay.
[00:35:01] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, yeah. I mean, seriously. Yeah. And you see, that's the thing, though. If you price it too cheap, no one's gonna buy it, think it's, you know, thinking it's crap. But Mhmm. You don't wanna overprice yourself and like a little 8 by 10. I don't I I mean, honestly, I don't know because I haven't thought this far ahead yet, but I would think $20 for an 8 by 10. You know, 30 probably would be max. But, then again, I don't know because I don't know what the market would bear. So, you know, I can't say, but, yeah, $20 would definitely pay for everything I used and still leave me money to buy more.
More paints, more canvas, more shit. Yeah.
[00:35:51] Unknown:
So And then what size is that one that you did that I'm wanting?
[00:35:55] Duuude-Ron :
What size was that? Hang on. Let me look at it again.
[00:35:59] Unknown:
I forgot.
[00:36:03] Duuude-Ron :
Because the black one, that's an 8 by 10. The, white one, that's an 8 by 8 square.
[00:36:11] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[00:36:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. These are just boards. These aren't even really a canvas, but I can I can put something on the back of them so you can hang hang it up if you want it? You could hang it up in your bathroom so you'd have something to contemplate on when you're pooping. You know?
[00:36:35] Unknown:
I I hear you, but no. That will go in my room.
[00:36:40] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. No. That's cool too. That's cool too, but, you know Well,
[00:36:46] Unknown:
you you know how I like purple.
[00:36:49] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. But, yeah, I was just I was just I was just kinda playing and and I learned I learned something. I I had an epiphany today. Oh, hell.
[00:37:04] Unknown:
Well, 1 okay. Do and remember your thought, but I'm gonna interrupt you. Remember your thought, epiphany. 1, that is a very big word just for you in general, not the time of the evening, but just in general. And wow.
[00:37:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Exactly. I mean That and then he just say it so that he actually had an apostrophe like that was is amazing.
[00:37:29] Unknown:
And and if the way he spoke that word was just so eloquently done.
[00:37:39] Duuude-Ron :
I see. But now had an epiphany today
[00:37:43] Rich Chelson:
because okay. So what was your apostrophe?
[00:37:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when when, say it was on, hang on. Let me look at it. It was on that second one, the 8 by 8 square with, all the yellow in it. When you pour it in your paints, right, whatever you pour on the bottom, the bulk of it is gonna come out last.
[00:38:12] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:38:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, well, and see, that's the thing. I didn't know this, you know, and, you know, I, so, so I put yellow in the bottom and then I started stacking my colors, you know, the blues, the whites, the the, fluorescent reds and shit like that. And and and and all like that. And I was just stacking my colors in there. And then when I was pouring it, I was watching them as they come up to the edge of the rim and then start to come out and, you know, fall onto the canvas and everything. And then I'm like, well, there's no yellow, no yellow, no yellow. And then finally I started seeing a little bit of yellow and I was like, oh, shit. There we go. I'm like, oh, okay.
So, yeah, I figured something out today. I was happy. I was excited. I was like, hell yeah. I could do this. So I gotta remember when I'm pouring paint onto the canvas, whatever I wanna see on top, I gotta put in first. But half the time, I don't I don't even know what I wanna see on top, let alone on the bottom. Yeah. And I know and I know that didn't sound right, but, you know, I used my big word for the day. Okay?
[00:39:37] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. That was that was definitely a big, luxurious word.
[00:39:44] Duuude-Ron :
Well, thank you. I appreciate it. I try. Every once in a while, I do try. Granted, it's very, very little, but I do try.
[00:39:56] Unknown:
You're right. Yeah. You do resemble that remark. Very little. You're right. Very little. Very little. It's one of those that just comes and smacks you up in the back of the fucking head.
[00:40:09] Duuude-Ron :
You wouldn't expect in that one, was you, dude?
[00:40:12] Unknown:
No. Nope. Not at all. Well, I don't expect anything. I just, you know, I'm just here lurking in usually usually lurking in the shadows. Oh, you're funny, dude. Shadows.
[00:40:33] Duuude-Ron :
Shadow nose. The shadow nose.
[00:40:38] Unknown:
Not a damn fucking thing.
[00:40:41] Duuude-Ron :
But the shadow nose. But yeah. No. I yeah. I I because I was definitely wanting to spin. I was I was definitely wanting to try that technique. And when I did that, I'm like, fuck. I'm spinning all the time now. Screw that. Yeah. Well, it's just It's fun. Because
[00:41:05] Unknown:
when you spin it, the paint is just gonna do whatever the fuck it wants to do. You know? Depends on how quickly you spin. Hell, if you're doing, like, freaking mach 1, you could turn it into a freaking, a tie dye.
[00:41:23] Duuude-Ron :
You know? But You know what? I ought to I ought to try and do that just for you, man. You and Brian.
[00:41:30] Unknown:
There you go. Yeah. Just get that get that thing spinning and see if it doesn't turn into, like, you know, a tie dye and just shooting or blowing the paint out.
[00:41:42] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I might I might have I might have tried that. I might have tried that.
[00:41:50] Unknown:
I'll take the purples and blues.
[00:41:52] Duuude-Ron :
Purples and blues. Listen, dude. I already put orders out. I take purples and blues, dude. You gonna need a little white and yellow in there, dude. Faint. Faint. But you gonna need, you know I don't oh. Oh, okay. Well, I got I got something else coming. It's a it's a, it's a silicone. It's see, it's called a flower. It's what it is. It's a upside down cup that has ridges, and you pour the paint on it, and it just rolls right over the edges and then goes down onto the canvas and spreads out, and you just Uh-huh. You just keep pouring paint on top of it till you're done. And then when you're done, you just lift that up, and then you can tilt it.
You can spin it. You can draw in it. Because you see, that's the thing. Like, now tomorrow, I might try to, draw in and then spin them out. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know yet. It depends on what it looks like as I'm pouring it.
[00:43:05] Unknown:
Right. Yeah.
[00:43:07] Duuude-Ron :
So but and, I mean, honestly, I could yeah. I could probably do 5 or 6 pieces a day, but I would have to buy a lot more canvas.
[00:43:21] Unknown:
Yeah. And, oh, doing 5 or 6 versus 1 or 2, when is it going to go from enjoyment to the fact, oh, I gotta do another one or I gotta do another one or another one. You know? You see,
[00:43:40] Duuude-Ron :
though, though, go ahead.
[00:43:43] Unknown:
Just I you know what? Because you enjoy that so much, just do, you know, 2, 3 at the most. You know, whatever your enjoyment is for doing them, but don't, you know, try to do mass production.
[00:44:01] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no.
[00:44:05] Unknown:
Then you'd start to hate it.
[00:44:07] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. No. No. I'm no. No. I'm not I'm not I'm not doing these to try, you know, to do mass production. I'm just I'm just I'm just doing these because I love the, the the freaking color schemes, the the freaking pictures that freaking come out because I've got no control over this. Or, you know, I've got very little control as to how these come out. And this is this is what's the beauty of it.
[00:44:37] Unknown:
Yeah. That's the whole fun part is, yes, you can drop your paint where okay. Here, there, there, here. But when you start spinning it, yeah, the paint is gonna do what it wants to do. Mhmm. And you don't have any control. And then, you know, what your outcome is is what the paint wanted to do. And I see, you know, another part of your enjoyment is, okay, a couple of blobs turned into this whole painting, you know, wow type aspect.
[00:45:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And see, normally and I know y'all are gonna probably give me shit for this, but, you know, when I do this Of course. We're supposed to. Well, you see, when I do this, I normally tell I normally tell Alexa to play classical piano music. So I'm listening to that, and and I've got I've got Alexa in in the in the, second bedroom there. And and it's playing classical piano music, and I'm just sitting here mixing colors, and then I'm pouring it on, and then I'm spinning it. And then yeah. And and and then I'm just an awe, and it's like, oh, shit. I gotta take a picture of it. You know? So it's like yeah. It's it's I got a whole process, man.
Just in a very short amount of time, I've I've got a process. Yeah. It's like as yeah. It's like my woosah factor.
[00:46:09] Unknown:
And as long as you hit as long as you hit the WUSA, that's all that matters.
[00:46:16] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I agree. I agree. But
[00:46:19] Rich Chelson:
y'all may I just don't wanna see you hit that WUSA. That that just sounds like yeah. No. Sounds like private time personally.
[00:46:30] Unknown:
Well, I don't wanna I don't wanna see it either. I agree with you, Brian. I don't wanna see it either. I just wanna make sure that he gets his Woosah. Yeah. No. That's all that matters. Now what he does with his Woosah, well, that's up to him.
[00:46:52] Rich Chelson:
That's a critter altogether different.
[00:46:54] Unknown:
That's right.
[00:46:56] Duuude-Ron :
I swear. Leave it to y'all to to because I hadn't even thought of it like that till y'all said so.
[00:47:04] Unknown:
Now we just done fucked it up for you. Yeah. You did. In your I didn't I didn't fuck it up for you. That was breaking news. In on it. Well, of course, I did. But you're you're gonna have to I wouldn't have ever said anything until Brian, you know, made the took the initiative. You know? But, yeah, you know you know us. We nothing but love.
[00:47:31] Rich Chelson:
Right. Nothing but love.
[00:47:33] Duuude-Ron :
I hear you.
[00:47:36] Unknown:
And the more love you get, the more we laugh.
[00:47:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shoot. So, yeah, I don't I don't know yet what I'm gonna do tomorrow, but I probably am gonna spend some more tomorrow. I gotta crawl up in my attic, which I've been fucking debating on because I know I've got more canvases up there in the package still. I just I'm just dreading crawling up there. So because me and ladders don't work too
[00:48:17] Unknown:
Well, I'm I'm not gonna comment on that one. I'll leave that one alone.
[00:48:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:48:29] Unknown:
So did you guys now going into a completely different direction, do you guys hear about the accident that happened in DC?
[00:48:37] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Was it yesterday? About to bring that up myself.
[00:48:40] Duuude-Ron :
Wow. People people are even blaming Trump for this shit.
[00:48:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Well, of course. He was just pilot. Of course, he's he's also, you know, he's also blaming the real culprits of of of there not being that many, actually qualified, folks in, in the air traffic control system anymore. It's thanks to, thanks to Obozo. And DEI. Right? Well, yeah. That that's why to led to lack of it is Yeah.
[00:49:17] Duuude-Ron :
Well, and see and see, that's the thing, you know, because I I just I just glanced at an article before we all got on, You know, just because I I had well, I watched TikTok a little bit today, and, yeah, fucking everybody is just slamming Trump for everything under the sun. Well, yeah. I mean, that's the and and and, Reddit's doing the same thing, of course. Right. But but you see, the thing is, it's like you know, I'm just like, okay. What what the fuck is this? And then I had heard talk of this, plane crash in in Washington, DC, and everyone's saying how how how is Trump's fault because he fired all these people. And I'm thinking just because he fired them people, the job still goes on.
So it doesn't matter who you fucking fire as long as you have an ass in that seat operating the radar,
[00:50:11] Rich Chelson:
controlling these planes and shit. Yeah. The the admin the everything is not in that control tower.
[00:50:20] Duuude-Ron :
Exactly. Exactly. And I'm like, so shut the fuck up, people. Oh, yeah. I was I man, I was like and then I then I shook my head because it's like, yeah. You're right. You know? And it's like, I don't know.
[00:50:41] Unknown:
You know? And I haven't, obviously, the the investigation is still ongoing. But you know what? JFK has a set flight path for landings and takeoffs. And and a helicopter can't doesn't know that?
[00:51:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, it couldn't help it. It was a marine helicopter.
[00:51:12] Unknown:
Well, I think, you know,
[00:51:14] Rich Chelson:
you know, I bet you what happened is the pilot dropped his back his box of crayons and and got and and was digging around for that
[00:51:23] Duuude-Ron :
and drifted out of the way.
[00:51:26] Unknown:
Yeah. But still, that's a set pattern. I'd the helicopter, in Ron's opinion, is at fault. You know? Because it you'd I don't I don't I don't get it. I didn't see the video if there's even video of the incident happening Oh, yeah. Or whatnot. What? Is there?
[00:51:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. There's there's some I mean, it's not it well, it it happened at night, so, you know, it's not the best. And it was actually a distance away. You actually at first, you think when you see the video, you it looks like well, hell, let me see if I can find it. I'll throw it up in the chat so you can actually look at it. So, let's see here. Hell, yeah. Apparently, the, the RFK, junior, confirmations got went on this weekend. So and so barely him and him and, and oh, oh, Barney are are are about to throw down.
[00:52:46] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I saw a little bit of, yeah. JFK Junior and Bernie. Yeah. Didn't watch all of it, but, you know, I don't know. Did, the DOJ get, confirmed? Or the, the what the hell is her name? Dami? Did she get confirmed yet?
[00:53:11] Duuude-Ron :
That I don't know. Who? Dami?
[00:53:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[00:53:18] Unknown:
For the director of
[00:53:21] Duuude-Ron :
the DOJ.
[00:53:25] Unknown:
Let's see. I know that Noam got, her confirmation yesterday for HSI director. And she's heading down to the border, I think, this weekend.
[00:53:43] Duuude-Ron :
Who? The governor of North Dakota?
[00:53:48] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:53:50] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. She's cool. I like her. Yep. Plus she's hot.
[00:54:00] Unknown:
Well, you know what? Why don't you go ask her for try to get, you know, some way, shape, or form, ask her to give her or, have her give you her number.
[00:54:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Probably wouldn't happen, dude. She's married.
[00:54:18] Unknown:
Well yeah. And it wouldn't probably wouldn't happen anyway because you don't have a high enough security clearance.
[00:54:25] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that's true. Yeah. This says Mizelle is, I guess, being fur. No. I don't know. Yeah. The next chief of staff at the DOJ. Trump chose Chad Mizelle. I don't I don't I don't I don't keep up on this stuff, so I don't know.
[00:54:51] Unknown:
No. Domi is, going after confirmation to be the director of the DOJ. Well, the highest person, whatever that title is.
[00:55:03] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:55:05] Unknown:
I think she'll I personally think she'll get it, but, you know
[00:55:08] Duuude-Ron :
I didn't you see, I don't know. I just spin.
[00:55:15] Unknown:
Yeah. We know you don't get into politics.
[00:55:18] Duuude-Ron :
No. If it doesn't directly concern you, you're out. Pretty much.
[00:55:25] Unknown:
And, you know, I don't follow it for the for the most part, but, you know, somebody some of these people gotta be better than the fucking last
[00:55:36] Duuude-Ron :
group ever was. Right. But, I mean, still, you're gonna make your money. You're working, so you're gonna make your money.
[00:55:52] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:55:53] Duuude-Ron :
So I don't care what they do, actually. I really don't. But that's me.
[00:56:00] Unknown:
I I would just like to see the corruption cleaned up a little bit. You know, it's never gonna go away because it's been there since day 1 of, you know, white people coming to North America. You know, corruption has always been there. Hell is what the Romans, the Babylonians, you know, everybody.
[00:56:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:56:30] Unknown:
And so but just to be able to clean up a little bit would be nice.
[00:56:37] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. Yeah. I'm not arguing that. It would be great. Oh, Brian shared a file in the meeting.
[00:56:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I had to do it that way because it's a damn video, and it's like, yep. Nope. It's all photos or a file, and I had to go off and throw it up on the Google Drive and Oh, good lord, dude. Yeah. Goddamn. It was a freaking it was a freaking, it's an ordeal. I I I'm I I might have to have a cigarette now.
[00:57:04] Unknown:
Right. And and well above my competency level.
[00:57:08] Rich Chelson:
No. I just hit it. It should open.
[00:57:11] Unknown:
No. I'm try I'm saying about trying to get it where you got it.
[00:57:15] Rich Chelson:
I was like, I ain't open it. I that's beyond my ability. It's like, okay. It's just a positive donut.
[00:57:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I had yeah. I I I had saw that video and, you know, I and okay. I get these videos at night and that, you know, it was from a distance. So so it's not gonna be 4 k quality. Okay? I know this. No. It's not. But but you see, my thing is with on these other videos, I mean, 4 k cameras have been out now for over 20 years. Well, 15 at least, I'd say. 10 or 15. Either way. And they're cheap. They're dirt cheap. And they got They got cheap. Yeah. Okay. But and what I'm wondering is why do all we ever see is a 4 80 p, which is, you know, an, you know, an, you know, a 19 eighties version of a video when someone commits a crime.
I mean, where's the 4 k? Where's the 10 80 high def? You know?
[00:58:23] Rich Chelson:
Because that's a lot of storage.
[00:58:28] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. But but you see, that's the thing. When you buy a 4 k system, it comes with a hard drive that holds, like, 2 or 3 or 4 terabytes. Okay? And it just records over it. So, therefore, it's wiping off the previous videos. So why are we still seeing video in, you know, 480p or 480i, which is like the worst resolution you can get? I mean, freaking freaking reminds me of a seventies porno flick.
[00:59:05] Rich Chelson:
Hey. Hey. There's some really good those those are really good, plots in some of those.
[00:59:12] Duuude-Ron :
That's some high quality entertainment.
[00:59:16] Rich Chelson:
All of the better assist they put out these days. Yeah.
[00:59:21] Unknown:
And and especially the music.
[00:59:24] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. The funk was awesome.
[00:59:30] Duuude-Ron :
Wow wow wow
[00:59:32] Rich Chelson:
wow wow. Trying to get to. Chickamaw wow. Brown chicken brown cow.
[00:59:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's the easiest way to say it to to sound like the seventies porn music. Yep. Yep. But no. But but you see, that's the thing. Like like, when the news shows a video of, oh, you know, Gulfport Police are, you know, looking for this person of interest and, you know,
[00:59:59] Rich Chelson:
the it's fucking grained from hell. It's like, fuck. Well, you know, they're well, they're doing the whole the whole well, they're what we see the reflection of the suspect in the screw on the license plate cover of the car on the opposite side of the end of the block.
[01:00:16] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:00:17] Rich Chelson:
And so we've only got those 7 pixels to go off of. But this is what I'm saying. It's like it's like it's If it wasn't for the 4 k, we wouldn't have been able to see the screw.
[01:00:32] Duuude-Ron :
You can get the 4 k from fucking Amazon for less than a $100,
[01:00:38] Rich Chelson:
man. Yeah. Well, I know. But, again, they're having to they're getting the image of the suspect off of a reflection of a screw on the opposite side of the block. Nah. I know. Because it it So so, you know, there and and we all know the enlarge and enhance is actually bullshit. Even though they claim that now that they're actually gonna be able to do that with AI, it's bullshit.
[01:01:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It is. It is. It's just it's it's just stretching the pixels, which will which will tear the the quality of the picture up Oh, yeah. So far. Oh, yeah. You end up having this blocky mess.
[01:01:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Which is what we see. That's why I was saying, you know, eventually, all they actually are working with is showing us is, like, well, we've got this picture of the suspect. It's, it's 8 and a half pixels. Can does anybody recognize them?
[01:01:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's like, no. I need 15.
[01:01:34] Rich Chelson:
Exactly.
[01:01:35] Unknown:
15 pixels. 8a half 8a half pixels on a, on a 50 inch screen television.
[01:01:45] Duuude-Ron :
Welcome to 1980, dude. Exactly. I mean, come on now. That was that was hi fi shit back then, dude.
[01:01:56] Unknown:
I mean Oh, I know. I I still have my video recorder from oh, when the hell did I buy that? When I was over in Korea, my daughter was 2. She's 34. So 32 years ago.
[01:02:15] Duuude-Ron :
You're killing me too.
[01:02:17] Unknown:
Yeah. It's Dan Porter. 32 years old.
[01:02:22] Duuude-Ron :
That's what? 98?
[01:02:25] Rich Chelson:
No. Yeah. Yeah. It was the size of a Hugo.
[01:02:28] Duuude-Ron :
Right?
[01:02:29] Unknown:
No. Actually, it's not the you know, it's it's actually compact, but it doesn't have a, it only has the viewfinder. You have to use your eye for it. It doesn't have the the television screen like the, you know, the later versions where you could see the big, you know, the whopping 2 inch screen versus, you know, having to look through the viewfinder.
[01:02:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah, dude. That was in that was in 1993.
[01:03:03] Unknown:
That was Yeah. That was Okay. Yeah.
[01:03:06] Rich Chelson:
32 years ago from from 21. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:03:12] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, I hate to say it, but, it probably don't work anymore.
[01:03:20] Unknown:
I can guarantee you that it still works. Now it hasn't come out of the its bag in probably close to 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. It may not work at all. But, you know, my phone takes better resolution video than that thing does. Oh, man. And that thing do you know how much that damn camcorder cost me? What? 3 grand? 4? No. No. No. It was nope. 700.
[01:03:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god. That well, that was still high for those. You know? Yeah. Mhmm. But but, yeah, the, freaking batteries are probably, yeah, just corroded away, dude.
[01:04:10] Rich Chelson:
No. I don't know. I haven't opened it. I bet your dollar's donuts would just take 30 minutes to charge it, and it would work up and fire up just fine. Well, now the battery's tougher than a tougher than Nokia phone.
[01:04:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well Hey. I had a phone. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Nokia phone was the bomb back in the day, man. Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Nokia phones? Man, I couldn't kill them. And I tried. I tried to kill them bastards. I couldn't do it.
[01:04:47] Rich Chelson:
But Yeah. Dude, dude, I swear, man. You you Good grief. What is the temperature outside? Whew. I'm sitting in here and I'm 56. Good grief, man. I'm starting to sweat. I might turn the AC on. Shit. It's
[01:05:00] Duuude-Ron :
it's a say it's, 63 at my house and 72 inside.
[01:05:10] Unknown:
Well, at least it's not at least it's not 50 inside.
[01:05:14] Duuude-Ron :
Thank god.
[01:05:15] Rich Chelson:
Man, it's still like 50.
[01:05:18] Duuude-Ron :
No. I I did not. I'm saying that. I didn't say you would. I said I would I would go for 50 inside. Oh, you'd love you'd love my house when when I didn't have no heat then.
[01:05:30] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. That's that that would be our house. Our house I mean, when we had the hard cold snap here just a couple weeks ago Uh-huh. There's a couple times inside my house with that because we didn't have any, any wood was there was that morning, there was a couple times where I stepped out, and I'd look at the thermometer that we had on the table, and it was, like, 38.
[01:05:53] Duuude-Ron :
What? In the house. Yeah. In the house. Brian, you got to be careful. Your pipes will freeze, dude.
[01:06:00] Rich Chelson:
You know what? That's why we drip.
[01:06:05] Duuude-Ron :
That's why you drip. Okay. Yep. Well, no. I get you. And I I mean, I've done it before.
[01:06:10] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. We've had we are we had the pipes freeze once, and that wasn't even because, and it wasn't even, a, we had the pops freeze because we go went to, went to, Pottsville. And during the time, we had a had a cold snap go through. And we still had we had heat and stuff, but the up it actually froze in between the upstairs and the, and the downstairs. And so as we were going through the house and we were really cranking the heat up a bit, it thawed out enough that all of a sudden, it started raining in the, in the kitchen. Oh, shit. So I had to run outside, turn the meter off, and start trying to figure out. I was like, where the fuck did this shit go? Had to hunt around, try to figure out where the, where the water actually went from, went from the the line up to the upstairs bathroom and tried to figure out in relation to everything. I was like, alright. Well, where is the upstairs bathroom? And I was like, well, you if you're gonna line everything out, it's right above our the the other bathroom. So well, okay. Got an idea of where it's at, and so kind of felt kinda few extra test holes and found that, yeah, from our, from the, from the shower, that's where the, lines go up north. So we just cut them off, capped them, and never had an upstairs bathroom since.
[01:07:42] Unknown:
Okay. So what? You got cast iron pipes throughout the house?
[01:07:46] Rich Chelson:
No. No. It but it was, it was definitely, on wasn't black iron. It was it but it was, it was it was definitely metal. It wasn't copper, but it was it was the, it was definitely metal.
[01:08:02] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Wow. Well, it'd be black iron then or cast iron.
[01:08:09] Rich Chelson:
Hey. It might be. You know, I don't think it's cast iron, but it could be. I mean, it's old enough. Well, yeah. Well damn sewer's cast iron.
[01:08:17] Duuude-Ron :
I believe that. I believe that. And and if you ever if you ever get a clog in your sewer, get go to the store. If you can find it, I believe you still get it. Fire.
[01:08:32] Rich Chelson:
Yes, sir. In a red bottle. Yeah. You got a red bottle. Yeah. Shit. It's $30 for a bottle, but it it does the job.
[01:08:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But you can only use it on cast iron pipes. You can't use it on anything else.
[01:08:45] Rich Chelson:
It'll it'll eat through anything else, literally. Oh, yeah. It will keep through it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, it's it is lye. So
[01:08:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. And don't inhale the fumes. Just you cannot get high off the fumes.
[01:09:02] Rich Chelson:
Nope. You can you can become lungless, though.
[01:09:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. You can. Yeah. That's
[01:09:09] Rich Chelson:
that is some no bullshit stuff. No. Oh, I mean, light light activates in water. So yeah. Yeah. You and you inhale the fumes, you're inhaling the light. And what's your lungs made of? 80% water. So Right. You're gonna get chemical burns, of course.
[01:09:26] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, shit. Anhydrous is probably safer than that shit.
[01:09:29] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[01:09:31] Duuude-Ron :
You know?
[01:09:32] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh.
[01:09:34] Duuude-Ron :
But yeah. No. We because, I when I was doing apartment maintenance, we, had to use some of that. And, I found out because, the the, the apartment houses had cast iron sewer drains. And so, yeah, we freaking poured it down the kitchen sink and then walked out. Oh, time to go. Yep. It's time to go smoke a cigarette at night.
[01:10:05] Unknown:
So Or 2 or 3.
[01:10:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, we we took a break. We took a break and and let the fumes die down, but, yeah, it freaking cleared the cloud. That's for damn sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It'll it'll eat through it all.
[01:10:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Normally, what I end up having to do is I just I've I've got a water snake that I'll shove up the, up to the the the pipe and and, turn turn the hose on. It just really sucks in the wintertime.
[01:10:38] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:10:39] Rich Chelson:
So that's when I usually will go grab some liquid fire. Like, alright. Well It's too cold. I'm just gonna dump some fire down it. Yeah. We're just gonna dump some dump some lye in there and
[01:10:53] Duuude-Ron :
Burn the shit out. Burn the shit out. Yep. You ever had to do that, dude? Nope. Okay.
[01:11:04] Unknown:
Nope. Never had to do that.
[01:11:06] Duuude-Ron :
Be glad. Be glad.
[01:11:10] Unknown:
Well, basically, by the way you guys are talking, yeah, I guess I am glad.
[01:11:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I I mean, it's it it is usable. It's great. But, well, I mean, in the houses that well, except well, well, Brian still lives in his house, but the house the house you live in, the house I live in can never have that stuff. So I'll never have that stuff in my house.
[01:11:37] Unknown:
Let's Yeah. Because all of ours is PVC.
[01:11:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. So so, yeah, you can't use it on that. I mean, about about the only thing it'd be good for is is, to, eradicate rodents. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna use that word, eradicate rodents.
[01:12:01] Unknown:
Man, another big $12 word.
[01:12:07] Duuude-Ron :
I don't shit. I did use 1. I wasn't even paying attention.
[01:12:15] Rich Chelson:
He's up to $24. I'll keep it. He's gonna his mouth's gonna write a check that his that he can't his brain's not gonna be able to, to afford. Yeah. Yep. Poor poor His ass can't can't gonna start glitching and going Yeah. Yeah. And then they
[01:12:35] Unknown:
then then get some, Chinese cellular.
[01:12:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. A little Chinese cellular. Have to start with simple words again. I'm like
[01:12:51] Duuude-Ron :
Slowly build my vocabulary back up? Precisely. Yeah. See, that's and that's the thing. I don't know where these big old fancy words are coming from. I really don't because I ain't got no one to talk, you know, that way. I just don't get it. I mean, 9 times out of 10, I'm just talking to myself.
[01:13:18] Unknown:
And the 12 voices in your head?
[01:13:21] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. Oh god. No. I we ain't gonna go with them conversations. No.
[01:13:28] Unknown:
That's And number number voice number 8 and 9 were both, got kicked out because they were too psychotic.
[01:13:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Definitely. It's like, nah. No, dude. You gotta get the fuck out, man.
[01:13:43] Unknown:
Kick right Or or bet or better yet, if you are a homeschool parent and you have a parent teacher conference and it turns in and it turns physical, man, you're having a bad fucking day.
[01:14:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Some yeah. Yeah. That's that's just yeah. That's terrible. That's just terrible bad right there. I don't care who he is. Mhmm. Yeah. No. I mean I mean, a lot of I I mean, shit, it's just me. It's just, you know, sometimes. Oh, yeah. I do I do have conversations with myself. I laugh at my own jokes and everything. Oh, no. I'm serious, dude. I get I get tickled sometimes. Some of the stuff pops up into my ear. I get tickled. Oh my god. Now I can't stop laughing for at least 2 hours.
[01:14:44] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. You need to start writing them down so we could, have, some real good conversations for this, for this podcast. You know,
[01:14:57] Duuude-Ron :
I like where you go with that. The bad thing is is is when I get tickled, I, my brain just is, I'm just laughing so much. I can't think. And then all of a sudden, poof, I blank again. It's darkness up there. It's like, hello? You know, and fucking nothing's going on up there, you know, and I'm fucking walking around in a day. And man, it's, dude, it's terrible in my head, man. You know? I I'm I'm I'm not I'm not bullshitting you. It really is. Is this like
[01:15:35] Unknown:
I wouldn't wanna be I wouldn't wanna fucking step foot in there. That's probably there's probably some really scary shit going on up there. Help a brother out, man. I just did. If I ain't gonna step foot in there, what makes you think you wanna step foot up there? Right. Right. And that's your head.
[01:16:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. It it just yeah. Some days, you know, some days are better than others. You know? And I just I just I just keep plugging away.
[01:16:13] Unknown:
Mhmm. I agree.
[01:16:17] Duuude-Ron :
But then then I go sit down at the piano, and I work on piano, man.
[01:16:24] Unknown:
Work on piano, man. Yep.
[01:16:27] Duuude-Ron :
I like that song. I always have. Well, you see, I like I like I like Billy Joel's and Elton John's music anyway. So
[01:16:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I was gonna say, you know, once you master Billy Joel and Elton John, then you can go to Liberace.
[01:16:45] Duuude-Ron :
Did I pronounce that right? Yeah. Actually, you did. Very good. I'm glad. Dude,
[01:16:52] Unknown:
my hat's off. And and play with all the freaking bling he had on his fucking fingers.
[01:16:58] Duuude-Ron :
Right. I don't think I'll do that, but, you know,
[01:17:05] Unknown:
shit. At any given time, he had, what, $5,000,000 worth of fucking jewels on his hands when he went to concert? Oh, I don't know. And that was just that was just the fucking rings. That wasn't the cape and all the other shit he fucking wore or the furs.
[01:17:25] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. The man could play piano and fucking sing. That's all I cared about. You know?
[01:17:32] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:17:33] Duuude-Ron :
I always that's why that's why I liked his music, you know, just because he was an entertainer. Yeah. He was a goofball. Looked like a goofball, but demanded it in style.
[01:17:48] Unknown:
Now I'm not He was only gayer gayer than a $3 bill. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He is. But you know what?
[01:17:56] Duuude-Ron :
He could sing. He could play.
[01:18:00] Unknown:
I never heard him sing. I saw him play, but never heard him sing. Oh, yeah. He's yeah.
[01:18:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. He could sing and play really well. And it it just yeah.
[01:18:14] Unknown:
Well, I would rather listen to Elton John and Billy Joel.
[01:18:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I I like both of them. Yeah. I'm a switch. Yeah. Yeah? Like a fool. So, Brian, since you're being so fucking quiet here in, like, the last couple months
[01:18:37] Unknown:
Got it. As usual. Yeah. Yeah. What
[01:18:40] Duuude-Ron :
what what do you have your ear to the ground about?
[01:18:46] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, like like, generally, in, like, the news world or or or or
[01:18:55] Duuude-Ron :
or what? Whatever makes me cry and happy.
[01:18:59] Rich Chelson:
You pick it. I mean, there's there's all sorts of things, I mean, going on because
[01:19:04] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you ain't said nothing in a couple months, really, dude. So I've said a lot in the last couple months. You said a few things. Come on now. Now so so so what is pleasing to Brian?
[01:19:19] Rich Chelson:
Pleasing? Well
[01:19:22] Duuude-Ron :
Jeez. That was a loaded question. There there is there is I mean, there that
[01:19:28] Unknown:
Well, I'm hoping you can't get any more loaded than that. I mean, I I'm I'm digging
[01:19:33] Rich Chelson:
I'm digging the, the the aspects of what, of what Trump's doing. I'm I'm I'm kinda I'm kinda digging some of the, the stuff. Oh, there's something that, I came across here recently. And you being see all these that you are, you might wanna know. There's a, there are a couple programs out created by the, University of Chicago Mhmm. That are, so that they protect, artists from from having their their artwork consumed by AI.
[01:20:20] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. And I've I've heard They're they're
[01:20:22] Rich Chelson:
they're basically I a AI poisoning programs.
[01:20:27] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. How so?
[01:20:29] Rich Chelson:
Well, like, say you've got a couple like, you take one of your pictures, and you run it through I think the, well, it's called, Glaze.
[01:20:40] Duuude-Ron :
Glaze?
[01:20:41] Rich Chelson:
Glaze. And it's like g l you know, like windowpane glaze. Golf Lima alpha. Okay. Yeah. Golf Lima alpha Or donor glaze. Zebra echo. Yeah. Zulu echo. Zulu. Yeah. Zebra. Zulu. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Zulu. Anyhow
[01:20:59] Duuude-Ron :
Can't help it, man. Go ahead. Sorry. Nope. Smack me later.
[01:21:04] Rich Chelson:
We will. Generative a here's what it says on their on their site. Generative AI models have changed the way that we create and consume content, particularly images and art. Diffusion, models such as midjourney, stable diffusion have may have been trained on large datasets of scraped images from online, many of which are copyrighted, private, or sensitive in subject material. Many artists have discovered that significant numbers of their art pieces in the training data, such as Lion 5 b, without their knowledge, consent, credit, and or, compensation.
And to make it worse, so many of these models are now used to copy individual, artist styles and through a process called style mimicry. And so home users can take art, artwork from human artists, perform fine tuning or lure on models like stable diffusion and end up with a model that, is capable of producing an arbitrary image in the style of the targeted artist. And so what they've done is they actually put some code into the picture. Okay. And what happens is when the AI comes through, it's not it picks up that code, it fucks the image up on them.
Okay. And so when they try to use, you know, like, recreate an image, in Annie Leibowitz, style of photography of a giraffe in a baby bottle. Alright? It would go through, and it would not be able to do that. You have actually poisoned the the bottle now.
[01:22:50] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:22:51] Rich Chelson:
So you have that. And then you have nightshade, which is a, let's see here.
[01:23:03] Duuude-Ron :
Just That was that was the bomb on
[01:23:06] Unknown:
RED 2. Yeah. The movie RED 2, Nightshade?
[01:23:14] Rich Chelson:
And, I'll just sit here. Sean, named the MIT Technology Review, and I'm gonna open here new Mac updates to the fixed GPUs. So see. What is nightshade and how does it work? There we go. Since our arrival, to to to, in an effort to address the power of asymmetry, we have, okay. There we go. Online content from model training. Content owners, few, tools can prevent their content from being fed into a generative AI model at their will. Opt out lists have been, disregarded by model trainers in the past. It could easily be ignored by 0 with 0 consequences. They are unverified, enforce unenforceable, and those, who violate opt out lists do not scrape, and do not scrape directives cannot be identified with high confidence.
In an effort to address the power, asymmetry, we have designed and implemented Nightshade, a tool that turns any image, into a data sample that is unsuitable for model training. So Glaze okay. So Glaze uses nightshade to poison the pictures, is what it is.
[01:24:27] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:24:28] Rich Chelson:
So but anyhow, it just it helps to ensure that, that if you're a if you're an artist, you're actually getting your pictures protected. You can copyright them all you want, but when an AI scrapes them, scrapes them and stuff, there there's not really any recourse that you have from it.
[01:24:54] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right.
[01:24:55] Rich Chelson:
And so this is a way of making sure they you know, somebody comes by and says, oh, nah. Screw it. They say don't scrape. We're gonna scrape it anyhow because we need the images. And so they scrape it. Well, they're gonna get a whole bunch of of trash, and it's gonna ruin their model, which is good. Yeah. Because, you know, AI is is a really interesting, I mean, it's it's a good brainstorming tool.
[01:25:24] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:25:25] Rich Chelson:
But, again, people being people, they are using it to to to try to go for a quick buck. Yeah. And so they put out a whole bunch of just AI slot.
[01:25:43] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Yeah. No. I I've got I've got the page up. I can look up into it, you know, in more detail and stuff. Because I I mean, you know, you say that's the thing, and I I don't know. Say this is where I'm kinda I mean, I understand what you're saying about, you know, the artists and all like that. But then again, at the same time, it's like, what does it really matter? And maybe that's where that's where the disconnect for me is because I'm not understanding what the big deal is. You know what I mean? Maybe. Now? Maybe. Okay. Okay. Well, that's, you say okay. Look. Let's say let's say I take a photograph.
Okay? It's it's my photograph and and all the photographs I take are baked with, embedded with my information on them automatically. Right. Right? Right. K. So let's say I throw that up on the Internet. Okay. And let's say AI grabs it. Okay. What why should it matter?
[01:27:04] Rich Chelson:
Well okay. Say you're selling a picture of a green Jeep with green lights in for $800. Okay. Was keeping somebody who uses something that does mimicry style of, of of AI regeneration from going off, going, make me a a green jeep with green lights in the style of Richard Chelsea.
[01:27:41] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So
[01:27:44] Rich Chelson:
and so it just coughs 1 up. And guess what? You don't get recognized as the the creator of that particular picture. You also don't get, get to, sue because that is a AI created image, though it's very, very, very similar to yours. You can tell. It's like, oh, hey. They took elements of my Jeep and the colors.
[01:28:17] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:28:18] Rich Chelson:
And they're really close. You could tell they copied it. You have no you have no means of of receiving payment for a violated copyright.
[01:28:32] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But but there again, it is it, if you look under the the Fair Use Act or the CC commons, attributions
[01:28:45] Rich Chelson:
okay. If you're using Creative Commons attribution
[01:28:48] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. No. Yeah. Right. But but but even even if you copyright now okay. This is what I'm asking now. I mean, honestly, if okay. Let's say someone did that to me. How am I ever gonna know that? I mean, I mean, will I see it in my bottom line? Is, is someone gonna call me and tell me or or what? You know? I mean, honestly, in, in the worldwide web, how am I ever gonna know that my picture was copied? And so I was making money on it. Different ways that you can do that.
[01:29:26] Rich Chelson:
You could take a copy of your picture. So let's see here. Yes, sir. You could go into, what is it? I think it's called 10 I.
[01:29:39] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:29:40] Unknown:
See if
[01:29:44] Rich Chelson:
see on see if that's the right one. Tineye.com.
[01:29:52] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, I guess I guess I guess Yeah. I tini is a reverse image search.
[01:29:58] Rich Chelson:
Okay. And so you can upload your image, and you can see who else has got this image on their site. And it just it basically it works for on their site. So Okay. So and I've had I've had one person who has hit my site going, hey. Better take the damn shit down because I'm or I or you could start paying me a $1,000 a day, for a for a piece of clip art. I was like, whatever, dude. I take you down. I'll make sure to make sure to mention you exactly that, you like to try to copyright claim, clip art. So have a good day.
[01:30:37] Duuude-Ron :
But but see, that's the thing. That's you see, that's where you see, that's you see, if you made $10,000,000 a year or $2,000,000 a year off off of your photographs or paintings or whatever, okay, I could see
[01:30:57] Rich Chelson:
something about that. Yeah. But if you made $800 off of a picture?
[01:31:02] Duuude-Ron :
Well, the That's $800
[01:31:04] Rich Chelson:
that all of a sudden oh, well, you know, it's not there. It's it it's not the same picture. It's you know And fair use is a defense. No. Fair use is No. It is a defense.
[01:31:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it is kind of, yeah, a defense, but you can actually legally fight with it. It's a weak fight, but you can fight with it.
[01:31:29] Rich Chelson:
As as You can also see the defense is that I'm I'm blind. I didn't know what I was seeing. I mean, you can make up any defense, but, yeah, fair use is nothing more than a legal defense. It's like, well and that's what you have to do. You have to then turn around and have to try to prove that it is fair use.
[01:31:50] Duuude-Ron :
Or or well, you see, the thing is, though, 9 times out of 10, the person who who, committed the offense doesn't have to prove anything. It's you that is that is making the claim that they stole your picture. Yeah. And if they don't, if they're not able to prove
[01:32:08] Rich Chelson:
that it's fair use, then guess what they have to pay you?
[01:32:13] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I I understand. But, yeah, you see, that's the thing, though. I you see, that's where that's where I've never, I mean, I've thought about it. Yes. But at the same time, I don't really think about it because it's like, really? What am I gonna be missing out on? $800? Yeah. But that's money. Right. You know, like what Josh said, you know, money doesn't buy happiness. It just it just pays the bills.
[01:32:51] Rich Chelson:
I I Show me somebody show me somebody who who money does not money when they say money does not buy happiness, show me somebody who doesn't smile when they have some money. If they're broke and they come into some money, they're smiling. Now how you utilize that money is a completely different animal. Right. But because but, yes, money is a tool, and it's not actually what makes you happy because, obviously, you're the thought is what makes you happy.
[01:33:28] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But but you see there again now, you see, that's the thing. I know people that are have known people that have had no money and they were fucking ecstatic. They were happier and shit. Oh, yeah. And I've known people who are richer
[01:33:43] Rich Chelson:
and richer than God and, and miserable as hell. Yeah. But I've also met people who are richer than God and happiest, happy as a lark and people who are poor, who have been miserable.
[01:33:58] Duuude-Ron :
So have I, but you see, you've got some mindset.
[01:34:01] Rich Chelson:
So the money is just that person's emotions.
[01:34:04] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. It's no. No. It's not the money. It's your mindset.
[01:34:08] Rich Chelson:
Right. So get that going back to your mindset. If you're doing the work and this is your work that we're talking about, then you wanna protect it. If not, then go ahead and open your door up and just let any Tom, Dick, or Harry come through your house because your work is your property.
[01:34:30] Duuude-Ron :
Well, no. I get that. I understand that. So if you wanna sell your property,
[01:34:36] Rich Chelson:
that's cool, but don't let somebody come by and go, you know what? I'm gonna go ahead and, come in just come into your house. I'm gonna take a really good copy, of your, of your of your of your radio setup and and and utilize it. It's like, well, no, you can't just walk into my house. You can't just walk onto my website and help yourself to one of my images. You can look at them all you want, but you can't just help yourself to one of my images and say, hey. Yeah. I'm gonna use this for a later date. I'm let me let me copy this down real quick. I'm just gonna you know, we're not actually going to post it up on anywhere, but we've got a we've got a, a program that's gonna actually take the aspects of what makes your picture so cool and let other people use it.
It's like, no. That's my soul that you're you're trying to digitize. And that's one reason why AI stuff, when it comes to trying to create a, a, whether it's a video, a picture, a blog post or whatever AI crap is crap. It is AI slop. And what makes it AI slop? The fact that there is not a soul in that, in that work. It is soulless. And that's why I'm, you know, like I said, I like AI when it comes to brainstorming stuff. I mean, hell I've got thanks to, thanks to, to Claude. I've gone through, I've got an idea for a, for a book that I'm fixing to start trying to write.
[01:36:26] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Okay. On end, that's good. And so Let me ask you this. Go ahead. Let me ask let me ask you this. Okay? Now you might do this. And and if you do do this, you you're about the only one that I currently know that does this. Okay? And I could be wrong. I could be totally way off base here. Alright? But out of everybody we know, who do we know that looks at a picture and sees the soul of the picture?
[01:37:01] Rich Chelson:
Anybody that looks at it and goes, wow.
[01:37:05] Duuude-Ron :
That's amazing.
[01:37:08] Rich Chelson:
And if they store if they walk by and it stops them, that's the soul.
[01:37:14] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Well, like like the one I just hung on my wall today. Yeah.
[01:37:18] Rich Chelson:
Because that You like that because of the soul of that picture. Right. That artist put his soul into that picture, and you saw it. Right. And you went, wow. That was amazing. I want that.
[01:37:33] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. I can I can see that then? I, you know, I I can see it to a point. I can see it a whole lot better than I could before we started this conversation. So thank you. I appreciate that.
[01:37:45] Rich Chelson:
Well, when it comes to I'm I'm I'm all over the damn place when it comes to comes to property and you getting what getting the value of what you've put into the world.
[01:37:59] Duuude-Ron :
But see, that's see with me anymore. It's like, you know what? Just fucking take the shit. I'll still be happy.
[01:38:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, and I and I get that. Yeah. And there's there's nothing wrong with with doing that, but you're if you're doing it at a sacrifice, then you're then you're in the wrong. If you're doing it just to, you know and it's not it's not affecting you in any way, then that's when it's okay. That's when you have no problem at all. But you have to be able to have that choice.
[01:38:40] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:38:41] Rich Chelson:
If if some if an AI bot is just coming by and taking everything out from underneath your nose without you going, yeah, you can utilize let me upload these pictures to your repository so you can actually utilize them. Then okay. I wouldn't have a com have a complaint. Of course, you wouldn't have a complaint either if somewhere down the road, you're, like, going, they're copying all my images. It's like, well, yeah, you gave them all your images. So, yeah, they're gonna copy them. Mhmm. You can't you can't cry after the fact.
[01:39:15] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:39:16] Rich Chelson:
But if you're if you're a I'm not saying you're not a serious photographer, but if you're a serious photographer, I don't know many photographers who just go with their best stuff and go, yeah. Yeah. Just take it. I mean, even when you go to places like Unsplash and you go to or or, or Pexels or Pixabay. Right. Those aren't their best pictures. Those are pretty good pictures. Those are alright pictures. You go to Unsplash now and you can get there. Hey. These are really good pictures hidden behind the Unsplash plus subscription model.
You have to you have to buy a subscription model, and then you can download this the the plus stuff, which is the even better.
[01:40:10] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:40:13] Rich Chelson:
But but to, their their best stuff, I can guarantee you, unless they are just not understanding their value or they're just now starting, they're like, oh, I'll just take, you know, 2,000 shots and I'll upload them all and someone will probably find something to like and I'll get out there. You know, my name will start circulating around a bit, which is what p that's what, photographers normally do. They just that's why they do that is to get their name out there so people when they somebody types up a Richard Chelsea, and they'll say, oh, hey. Look. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've seen that picture a couple times on a couple other websites. I've always liked that one picture. You know? Right. Right. Yeah. You see this? I've I've never been one.
[01:40:59] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, yeah, I did think back years ago. Thought about, you know, I don't know. You know, I was I that's why that's why I watermarked a lot of my pictures in the early days. You know? And anymore, I'm like, I just bake it into the image itself. And, you know, I mean because I I've tried to submit to stock stock photography and shit like that, and those fuckers don't even wanna touch it because they're like, oh, this part of the sky is just blown out a little too much and this and that. Oh, yeah. They're yeah. They're I I'm like I'm like, y'all you know what? Blow it at your own ass. I'm done. You know? Yeah. They it was like
[01:41:51] Rich Chelson:
Well, you need to burn you need to burn in this little this portion of the, picture just a little bit and dodge out, at this side. And it's like I'm like, no. No. I ain't That is your that is your view. That's not my view. So you have a good answer.
[01:42:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's and so that's why that's why I take my pictures or, you know, like like the start I'm doing. I don't care who who else fucking does it. Guess what? I have fun with it, so I don't care. And if you wanna copy it, fucking copy it because you're not gonna get it exactly like that.
[01:42:26] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:42:27] Duuude-Ron :
You know? And you see, the thing is for me, it's not always the finished product. It's still fucking journey.
[01:42:34] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:42:35] Duuude-Ron :
You know? That's what does it for me. I'm just And and
[01:42:40] Unknown:
What's that? And in the whole great big scheme of it all, you can't take it fucking with you.
[01:42:48] Duuude-Ron :
That's right. That's right. So and when you're gone, they're gonna take that $800 picture and sell it.
[01:43:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Somebody will.
[01:43:03] Rich Chelson:
Well but, again, that would that is a almost like the, like the, well, oh, hell, where was that? A lady, I think, here in the US. I still have it up. I guess not.
[01:43:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I just I I've got I've got a weird view of things anymore. Well, it's well, it's well, it's been like this for 10, 15 years. Right. You know? Because no, seriously, because I've had so many people throughout my life, and I'm not I'm not whining about it. Okay? Do not get me wrong when I say this. I'm not whining about it at one bit. I used to, but I don't anymore. But I have had so many people steal, take, copy, and do the same shit that I'm doing. I just gave up. Fuck y'all. I'm gonna do me, and y'all wanna do it? Take the glory. I give you the glory.
I give you the glory. Take it. And I hope you swallow on it. You know? Hope you choke on it.
[01:44:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Exactly. Hope the hell it tastes good when it tries to choke down.
[01:44:38] Duuude-Ron :
But see, and that's why, that's why I don't, I don't try and search for the fucking spotlight because there's always another motherfucker right behind you trying to push you out the way to step in front of the mic because God forbid if you get ahead before they do. Yeah. No way. Man. I step out the way, give you the microphone here. Have at it. I don't give a fuck, and I don't. That's the thing. I don't. So that's why that's why it's I guess it's hard for me to,
[01:45:13] Rich Chelson:
you know, realize this. Right. Well, what I was looking up, was I saw this actually earlier today was that, a a person over in, Minnesota wound up going to a garage sale Uh-huh. And bought a picture for $50.
[01:45:34] Duuude-Ron :
K.
[01:45:36] Rich Chelson:
And as he got to looking at as this guy got to looking at, I think he's a guy, got to look at it, he's like going, you know, that looks a bit familiar on those brushstrokes. So he went and had it, had some, some folks look at it. It was a missing Van Gogh.
[01:45:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my gosh. $15,000,000.
[01:45:59] Rich Chelson:
Wow. So see, there's the, you know, if, again, there there's an example of, Okay. Not knowing the worth of what you got. So it's $15,000,000 Of course, I bet you that family that sold that garage sale is gone. Fuck.
[01:46:16] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But, but you see, that's the thing you see, that's where that's where it's it was it was up to that family who had it before. They didn't do their research. They just thought it was a nice picture, and they it it gave them pleasure for however long. And then the wife probably looked at it one day and says, oh, it clashes with the furniture. We gotta get it out of here. And so
[01:46:41] Unknown:
it's gone. Now here now here's the question. He bought that painting for $50.
[01:46:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:46:50] Unknown:
Found out it's worth $15,000,000. Would you sell it or would you hang it on your wall?
[01:46:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. He turned around and sold it to Egg.
[01:47:00] Unknown:
Had, had Not him. Southern's beef or whatever. Self insured. Not him.
[01:47:06] Rich Chelson:
You. Oh, okay. I don't know. It depends on how badly I really needed that money at the moment. There's a good chance it might just sit on the wall just so I can just say, hey. I got a Van Gogh, you know, just for bragging rights for a while until someone some collector come by and goes, oh, I know, they were offering, 15 for you, but I'd like to buy that off of 35. Be like,
[01:47:42] Duuude-Ron :
well,
[01:47:43] Rich Chelson:
you know, I might have to kinda him and all about it depending on how much of an asshole I feel. So
[01:47:49] Unknown:
Yep. Me, personally, I would do the same thing that that other guy did. Okay? It's sunrise.
[01:47:56] Rich Chelson:
It's a bango. It is a bango. Bango. Southern Beast. Sell it for me. $15,000,000?
[01:48:03] Unknown:
Hell, yeah. Well, say it with me. Because I'm not I'm not in my mindset is not in the art world. Yeah. Okay. I've seen pictures of the Mona Lisa. It doesn't excite me. I've seen other pictures of famous artists.
[01:48:23] Rich Chelson:
It does not excite me. You probably like Lady Liberty though, don't you? She's got a booby hanging out.
[01:48:32] Unknown:
I'll have to look that one up.
[01:48:35] Duuude-Ron :
I
[01:48:38] Unknown:
do. Put it in the put it in the chat. Find it and put it in the chat because I have no idea what you're talking about. So
[01:48:47] Rich Chelson:
No. There's a French revolution painting.
[01:48:52] Duuude-Ron :
No. See what Yeah. Liberty eating the people is what it's called. Yeah. It would it would it would depend, you know, 1, because I've never had a Van Gogh, a real Van Gogh or even even a fake one. But it it would it would depend on the picture itself. If it if if I liked it, I'd probably hang it on my wall and keep it there forever.
[01:49:18] Unknown:
You know? Even even knowing that it's worth $15,000,000?
[01:49:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[01:49:24] Unknown:
Okay. And see, here here's another aspect of Ron that I would sell that Van Gogh and I would buy 2 Thomas Kinkades. Okay. Well, you could buy more Thomas Kinkades, but, you know No. Because I I only want 2. I only want 2 because I need Jeep parts.
[01:49:48] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But yeah. No. You see that you see, that's the thing. You see you see, the thing is money doesn't drive me. It it honestly doesn't. Yes. It is nice to have. The, money I do have is, is fine with me. So yeah. If I have something worth some money, you know, if, if, if I liked that object, then I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna enjoy it until I don't enjoy it no more, then I'll sell it, you know, and, oh, God, you know, what am I gonna do? It dropped down to 5,000,000. I'm broke. No. I'm not. You know? I mean, yeah, it's not 15, but 5 will still buy Jeep parts.
I might not be able to afford the Thomas Kinkades, but, you know, I can buy Jeep parts.
[01:50:40] Unknown:
Well, yeah. That's true. See? So
[01:50:44] Duuude-Ron :
but that's me. See, I'm weird like this, and I've always been this way for a long time. I've always been weird. I don't I don't place a lot of monetary value on things because I've had I've lost shit. I've I've had it stolen or whatever, or just ripped from me for whatever reason. So it's like, I don't care. I have what I have. If I lose it, I'll be bombed. Yeah. But I'll rebuild. So I'm good. But I'm weird. I know. I wear my pork pie because I'm weird.
[01:51:25] Unknown:
You wear your what?
[01:51:29] Duuude-Ron :
My pork pie.
[01:51:31] Rich Chelson:
Pork pie hat.
[01:51:33] Duuude-Ron :
My pork pie hat, dude. Oh, I Okay. Sorry. I showed you the hat
[01:51:39] Unknown:
when I got it. I know. I forgot what the hell the name was. Excuse the fuck out of me.
[01:51:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you are Geez. Excused.
[01:51:50] Unknown:
Damn. But yeah. No. I just I like mine as well.
[01:51:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yours is cool. It's just I don't have the face for your your hat. Your your crown's too tall. My face is too short and wide. It is true. Serious. I would look weird in your head.
[01:52:16] Unknown:
Oh, so what are you trying to say is the tall, low key person's type hat?
[01:52:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Actually, that is correct. Your, your face structure that hat wears wears well on you. And that, that is a given fact. And this is why you have your short crown hats and your tall crown hats is for the different face structures. And once you learn them, it it makes sense, and it's true. Because you have a long squared face, squared off face and a taller crowned hat completes that whole look. You know, you, you could also go to a short crown hat Depending on the style of hat, it might look weird. It might not. But you would do better with your face structure, would do better with, the tall crown hat.
Whereas my face is short and fat.
[01:53:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, you know, my next hat, if I ever decide to do another hat, is gonna be a short top hat.
[01:53:39] Duuude-Ron :
You can pull that off. With a bow tie? Fuck. Dude. Dude. There you go. A short a short top hat with a bow tie? Oh, fuck. Yeah. Dude, crank it, man.
[01:53:56] Unknown:
But, you know, the bow tie doesn't go very well with t shirts. Yeah. They do. Because I don't have no collared shirts.
[01:54:05] Rich Chelson:
They they do too. Go fine with with T shirt. Haven't you ever seen that T shirt that's got the bow tie and the tux ruffles on it?
[01:54:13] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yes. I have that t shirt. That's my yeah. That's that's my Halloween costume T shirt. Yes. Yeah. I have one of those. Hey. See? It goes goes quite nicely on a T shirt. You could be all that. Tie off, dude. I don't know about that one. You remember those square knit ties that they had in the eighties?
[01:54:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[01:54:41] Unknown:
Love those ties. I had a gray one and a pink one. Those are some cool ties. I wish they'd bring those back.
[01:54:56] Duuude-Ron :
If you say so. I didn't like them too well.
[01:55:01] Unknown:
Oh, I love those ties. They need to bring back, ocean Pacific corduroy shorts too.
[01:55:11] Duuude-Ron :
Damn it.
[01:55:13] Unknown:
Now those would look great with my Crocs. And the Crocs that I sent you guys the picture of for, the Tonka toy having the, oh, what was it? The backhoe and the tracks?
[01:55:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:55:39] Unknown:
There you go. I'll I'll get those for my Crocs as well. And wear my short top hat, my corduroy shorts, and my bow tied t shirt.
[01:55:54] Duuude-Ron :
Which are lime green Crocs.
[01:55:57] Unknown:
Damn Skippy.
[01:56:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god, dude.
[01:56:02] Unknown:
Wouldn't that just fucking look horrifying?
[01:56:06] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, I'm gonna have nightmares, man.
[01:56:11] Unknown:
Oh, yes. But, you know what? That the hat that I got goes well with Crocs.
[01:56:22] Duuude-Ron :
If you say so.
[01:56:24] Unknown:
I say so.
[01:56:28] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, that's what?
[01:56:29] Unknown:
I'm even gonna find out what size shoe you wear, and we'll get you a pair of Crocs.
[01:56:35] Duuude-Ron :
That's okay. I'm dude.
[01:56:39] Unknown:
I bet you if you put a pair on, you'd be fucking man, these motherfuckers are comfortable. I like Crocs.
[01:56:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I dude, I don't know about all that. I I just I I just can't I just have a hard time with it's just weird. They're just weird. You know? The at least they are to me. Now, hey, dudes. We shit. We can talk about hey, dudes all you want. But me and Crocs, I just I've never been able to cross that line.
[01:57:19] Unknown:
Well, I don't have Hey Dudes, and it's only because I can't fucking afford them.
[01:57:29] Duuude-Ron :
I'm telling you what? Your fate would you think Crocs is like walking on clouds? Dude, hey, dudes is even better.
[01:57:41] Unknown:
I don't know.
[01:57:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I don't know. Well, if if if anyone is listening and later on because,
[01:57:54] Unknown:
we've been getting And has a pair of both and has a pair of each? Because you don't have Crocs. I don't have Hey Dudes. And we're arguing something of apples to oranges in our own opinions because we don't have a pair of the other type of shoe. But you're right. If somebody out there has that Crocs and Hey Dudes, let me know. Which one are more comfortable?
[01:58:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yes, please. I we would like to know. We would like someone to help us determine what is the top.
[01:58:32] Unknown:
And I know what the top would be. Crocs.
[01:58:35] Duuude-Ron :
Hey, dudes.
[01:58:37] Unknown:
I don't fucking think so.
[01:58:39] Duuude-Ron :
I fucking think so.
[01:58:42] Unknown:
I think so. But you know what? We could argue that point all day long until the cows come home.
[01:58:50] Duuude-Ron :
And I'd still would get lost and you'd still lose.
[01:58:56] Unknown:
I heard that. Still lose. That is correct. You would still lose. I would win. You would still lose.
[01:59:01] Duuude-Ron :
Nice try, dude. Nice try. Yeah. No. It's I I don't know. I mean I mean, Breezy loves them, but I just I just can't bring myself to wear them. You know? Right. It just I mean, they're plastic. Plastic shoes.
[01:59:29] Unknown:
No. They're rubber. Rubber? Well, they're just state. You're pretty much same shit, different day. I don't know what the hell. I don't know what the hell they make Crocs out of.
[01:59:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what? Let me see. Let's find out. Go look it up. What are Crocs made from? A proprietary foam resin
[02:00:03] Rich Chelson:
that's exclusive. Foam rubber? Yeah. Some type of foam rubber.
[02:00:07] Duuude-Ron :
Crosslight is a closed cell resin that's lightweight, comfortable, and odor resistant. So they don't soak up your feet stink. They just let it air out because there's so many fucking holes in it.
[02:00:21] Unknown:
It's a polymer compound. And what was and then what was the word before that? Comfortable.
[02:00:28] Duuude-Ron :
Well, hay dudes are even more comfortable, dude.
[02:00:36] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
So now it says But we have your cross light. We Hang on. I'm I'm I'm trying to help you here for a second, dude. Hold on, man. It says cross light, which is what Crocs are made out of, is nontoxic, antimicrobial, and resist fungal and bacterial growth. So for all of you out there wearing Crocs that have gnarly fucking toes and feet like me, it will it will it will retard and not cause any further degradation. God, I gotta stop this shit.
[02:01:21] Rich Chelson:
So you just fucking fucking work.
[02:01:24] Unknown:
You just fucking blew your whole goddamn point out of the fucking water.
[02:01:29] Duuude-Ron :
No. I didn't.
[02:01:31] Unknown:
Yet you just did.
[02:01:33] Duuude-Ron :
Hey, dudes are the fucking bomb. Hey, dudes is where it's at. Now since since we did that, goddamn, we squirrel hard with her.
[02:01:49] Unknown:
Oh, hell yeah. We squirrel.
[02:01:52] Duuude-Ron :
And, I mean, we started out with Brian, though.
[02:01:55] Unknown:
Yeah. And now he's not talking anymore. Right?
[02:01:59] Duuude-Ron :
I it's like it's like, damn. You know? It took a minute for for for, all that to catch up in my head.
[02:02:07] Unknown:
Okay. See. And now and now we push it back over to Brian who wears flip flops.
[02:02:14] Rich Chelson:
From time to time, yeah. I will will wear a flip flop. I'll wear some river shoes if, if I'm at, at the river. And, most of the time, yeah, 10 runners.
[02:02:30] Duuude-Ron :
Now okay. Hang on here. Hey dudes. This is what Hey dudes are made of. Okay? They are made of a variety of materials, including recycled and natural materials like cork, plastic, leather, suede. They also use vegan friendly materials.
[02:02:52] Unknown:
So, oh. Friendly.
[02:02:55] Duuude-Ron :
Vegan friendly. So so they are they are really kinda trying to, I don't know. Hey, dudes are are are in crocs or like neck and neck right at the, you know, they're close.
[02:03:14] Unknown:
How how can how can it even relate to vegan friendly?
[02:03:24] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know, dude. I hate to use those glasses.
[02:03:28] Unknown:
Vegans now have specific clothes preferences?
[02:03:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell, yeah. Yeah. No. They won't use anything that's got any leather in it. They got tired of everybody making fun of you know, it was like, I'm you're you're just you're just raising cows to to eat, and people would be looking at their, at their shoes going, well, where's where's your cow reside now? South of France or something? So, yeah, they got tired of that, and so they started making demands that you have to make their, their clothes were free all all animals and cruelty free. So you know?
[02:04:06] Duuude-Ron :
Or or plant based, like, hemp shirts, hemp clothes. That's why they
[02:04:11] Rich Chelson:
ought to be able to wear titties, man. They ought to bring back titties.
[02:04:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I Yeah. And, and UGGs too. Right?
[02:04:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh god. No. No.
[02:04:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I saw I saw I saw it. Well, it it was funny last week when, you had talked about titties because, Tammy had texted me when he was talking. And, and, Tammy said, yeah. I've got a pair of those.
[02:04:46] Rich Chelson:
I don't I don't think she was meanin' the shoes. I'm just, I Well, they suppose Well, I guess the, the couple because for a long time, titties were stopped being made. People didn't make them anymore because they were, because the couple that actually created the the the shoe got a divorce. 1 got the product, be able to sell the product. The other got the name.
[02:05:13] Duuude-Ron :
Oh.
[02:05:14] Rich Chelson:
How's that gonna work? Well, I mean, he he tried to do some other things. I think he tried caught tried calling them knockers for a while or something like that. It was just kinda you know, didn't work the same. Right. And I guess, apparently, they, they have reconciled, and you could actually buy titties again. They're, like, 30, they're, so you got some that are $32, $53. I mean, they kinda they kinda range.
[02:05:47] Duuude-Ron :
No.
[02:05:49] Rich Chelson:
Ain't no. I ain't doing Titties. Titties shacks. Yeah. There you go.
[02:05:54] Unknown:
I ain't doing no titties.
[02:05:57] Rich Chelson:
No. No. They're cool.
[02:06:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I'd I yeah. I I saw a picture of them. I would not be caught dead, let alone Oh, with with with hot pink surgical tubing straps around your feet? No. I think I'm good.
[02:06:15] Rich Chelson:
Oh, come on. Well, if you don't like hot pink, I'm sure you can find a different color.
[02:06:23] Duuude-Ron :
Right. I probably could.
[02:06:25] Rich Chelson:
Oh my goodness. Biggest set of titties measuring at a whopping inch and a quarter, foam sole. I mean, they call them the big knockers. Yeah. The the tensiest, titties they have are also called the chichis. The what? The chitchis. That's that's Mexican for titties.
[02:06:48] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, lord. Yes. See, no. I I just I couldn't do it.
[02:06:53] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. The titty version of the flip flop is called the, is called the tatas. Wow. Stuff for the kids is called the itty bitties.
[02:07:04] Duuude-Ron :
The itty bitty. Oh, shoot.
[02:07:10] Unknown:
That is odd. And you and you don't have do you know how many style names Crocs has?
[02:07:16] Rich Chelson:
None. Oh, no. No. Correction. They do. They have one. It's called ugly.
[02:07:23] Duuude-Ron :
And and you see that's the thing, though. You see, this is what this is what bothers me because does not have they don't they don't have the forward thinking to to expand their their their base.
[02:07:45] Rich Chelson:
They can't because then it would not look like the same. I mean, what are they gonna do? Make make, Croc boots where, you know, it's got a little bit of that for the heel, but but you've got, but you, you know, you got a little little tube that you stick your foot through before you put it in the in the, shoe?
[02:08:03] Unknown:
Believe it or not, they do have Croc boots. Why does it not make it surprise me? They yeah. It just came out not too long. I think within the last year, they started making Croc boots. Now would I own a pair of Croc boots? No. I am a Crocs shoe type person, and they don't need to have any other names other than Crocs because well, because they're Crocs, which and they're a good foot product for, where a lot of people wear them in the medical field.
[02:08:44] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, I could say that. I mean, you know? I could see that.
[02:08:56] Unknown:
Because they don't absorb any, you know, blood and bloodborne pathogens. You know? It can be cleaned off.
[02:09:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:09:06] Unknown:
Where, like, tennis shoe if you get blood on them, you ain't get out.
[02:09:13] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. That's no. No. I'm I'm I'm looking at, yeah, pair of, actually, winter gear. They're 4999, Croc boots, and they're insulated black winter boots, and they're Crocs. Yep. Yeah. Well, I'm good. See? Yeah. Oh, they have men's boots too.
[02:09:46] Rich Chelson:
49.99.
[02:09:49] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. Wait. No. 80 to a $120.
[02:09:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I was gonna say because the regular are right around $50.
[02:10:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See? I can't yeah. No. I'm good.
[02:10:08] Unknown:
Yeah. See, that's just That's just because you're not open minded. That's just it.
[02:10:15] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, I I can't really argue that point because you're right. Some things I I am closed minded on. I am not gonna lie. But, yeah, I just can't. Good god. They got In Motion Crocs, Cozy Collection Crocs, Over Puff Crocs, Dylan Crocs, classics, men's fuzz. I mean, got it. No. I'm good. Echo collection, gibbet charms. Yeah. No. This is just rude. I mean yeah. Wow. Yeah. No. No. X off. X off. X off. Okay. X off. X off. I can't look at no more crocs.
[02:11:09] Unknown:
Oh,
[02:11:12] Duuude-Ron :
that hurt. That hurt. So, Brian, what else you got?
[02:11:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, what else do we got? Oh, let's see here. We have got oh.
[02:11:25] Unknown:
Something that's not so technical.
[02:11:28] Rich Chelson:
Nah. Nah. Nah.
[02:11:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It is it is getting late. So so, yeah, my use of big words is like yeah. Getting a little thin. Oh, it's, yeah, it's way thin. I've used, what, 5 big words tonight?
[02:11:44] Rich Chelson:
Used a couple. Yeah.
[02:11:48] Unknown:
I know at least 3.
[02:11:49] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I just used one. I can't remember what it was. Oh, degradation. Degraded. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that was that was either number 3 or number 4. I don't know. I can't remember. But my brain is at parast now. My brain freaking hurts. So
[02:12:12] Rich Chelson:
so but, I mean, I'll you know, what else is happening in the world here? Gonna have to pull up everybody's favorite news, news organization. Well, actually, hold up. Let me pull up Oh, what? TikTok? Pull up my sheets first. Get to see what, what we have listed in there. I've done a few things in there from time to time. See here.
[02:12:37] Duuude-Ron :
I've seen stuff here and there. I just I just forget to write it down, and the stuff I do write down is is,
[02:12:46] Rich Chelson:
is, like, ancient now. So Oh, yeah. Well, still, it's always fun to talk about, like, how eating meat somehow is supposed to be oppressing women.
[02:12:58] Unknown:
Oppressing women?
[02:13:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Eating meat oppresses women. Really.
[02:13:04] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[02:13:05] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Enlighten us.
[02:13:08] Rich Chelson:
Alright. Well, the gender differences in, in vegetarian identity is the name of the, of the article on how men and women construe meatless dieting. And so the abstract is that meat is deeply associated with masculine identity. As such, it is unsurprising that women are more likely than men to become vegetarian. Give the nature, gender natures are v vegetarianism. Might men and women who become vegetarian express distinct identities around their diet, although 2 highly powered preregistered studies, some sets of n s equals 80, 90, and 1775, whatever that fucking means, self identified vegetarians, which, you know, you know, they're the they're they're the sufferable style an insufferable style of people who are instantly, that's their how they, they address themselves. Hi. I'm vegetarian. Hi. I'm vegan.
So, you know, self identified, vegetarians combining both frequent and by saying approaches. Alright. You, you know these people are ignorant. They have to try to use big ass words just sound like make themselves sound like they're smart. I found men, men and women differ among 2 dimensions of dietary at of each, or vegetarian identity, dietary motivation, and dietary adherence. Compared to vegetarian men, vegetarian women reported that they are more, for socially motivated to follow their diet and to adhere to their diet more strictly, I e less than less likely to cheat and eat meat. So enter any anyhow, so we, if we keep looking down, basically, according to, see, aside from health aspects, another reason why people may associate vegetarianism to femininity stems from the inherent human dominance over animals that occur with meat consumption.
Masculinity in western cultures, which is all cultures eat meat. So I love how they still try to go, well, it's the western, western civilization that that does all the meat. Well, no. There's Indian people eat a lot of chicken and goat. Chinese eat a lot of anything that will move. So the inherent human dominance over animal masculinity in western cultures is characterized by strength and dominance. Adams of 1990s Schrock and Schwabble, which is a funny name for a, for a, a publishing company. But, 1990, Schrock and Schwabble, 2009.
And the hunting, killing, and butchering of animals of for meat, they signify these connotations of virility. Sobal of 2005, Ruth Athol, 2001. According to Adams 19 90 feminist vegetarian, critique, male dominance over animals is intertwined with a patriarchal dominance over women. Eating meat can make men feel like real men. And by Roth Gerber, 2012 Sobel, 2005. And and symbolically subject men women bolstering men's social standings. So yep, they're they're rich all in all. So that's it. Okay. But, yeah, apparently apparently, they, they they, you've got, you've got wackos that, that wanna try to equate anything they can come up with to being some type of form of oppression, that men are horrible and terrible and no good and and because they walk down the street, because they eat food that they don't approve of.
Because they look at women. That that that's that's terrible, horrible, nasty, awful masculinity. They they make jokes with each other. Oh god.
[02:17:17] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. 90 hold on. 99% of the damn country just voted fucking American red, white, and blue, and American fucking apple pie.
[02:17:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's gonna show you how racist and and and, and homophobic and bigoted and and masochistic America is. I mean, all those women are masochists now.
[02:17:47] Duuude-Ron :
And and and there are still people Or misogynists, not masochists. They're misogynists.
[02:17:52] Rich Chelson:
Sorry. Gotta use the right word.
[02:17:55] Duuude-Ron :
There are still people still I I mean, people trying to elevate the the same rhetoric that they have dealt with for the last 4 years. Oh, yeah. I mean, can't can't anybody fucking evolve?
[02:18:15] Rich Chelson:
Obviously, no. No. And that is that now there's a actually, thank you. That's a topic to be that would could definitely be talking about. Is the, the point that our conservatives actually going too far down the same road the the, the Liberals were on? Now that we have actually won and have Trump in office,
[02:18:49] Duuude-Ron :
I'm lost.
[02:18:50] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Well,
[02:18:52] Duuude-Ron :
so again.
[02:18:54] Rich Chelson:
From from basically, from 2,020 until now, the past 4 years has been a liberal haven. Alright? To say the least. They, you said something wrong. They screeched at you. They they pointed fingers. They they tried everything they could to make sure you were, you were, you were ostracized and being kicked out of society because if you if you agree if you say you're sorry, you're agreeing with them. And so now they've got you by the proverbial balls, and they're gonna do everything they can to rip them off. Right. Right. Right. Well, during the inauguration, there was a, there was a comedienne who came on to one of the the mainstream media shows.
And they started she started making some jokes about being about the pa about the past 4 years. So she was making, you know, making comments, about, like, Pfizer and Moderna and, and and, you know, things like that. They were big and, you know, when you're talking about a news show, you don't joke about the about the drug companies because that's who's funding the news programs.
[02:20:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[02:20:20] Rich Chelson:
It's no one else. Not you know, you gotta afford from time to time, but it's usually, some type of pill, followed by some type of pill, followed by some type of erectile dysfunction pill, followed by some type of pill, followed by some type of pill. Dodge commercial. You know? And so they did a she did this whole little stream, or little little 5 minute, joke session just bashing on anything and everything that was liberal.
[02:20:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Okay.
[02:20:53] Rich Chelson:
And at first, everybody was digging this chick. They went and they saw her they looked her up. Her her following, grew. But shortly thereafter, all of a sudden, everybody started to hound jumping on her going, well, you were you were for, for the, for the vaccine. And she's like, no. I don't know if she was saying that, but, you know, they were talk they were hounding her about the fact that she was for a vaccine, and she was a lot of the liberals the liberal ideologies at the beginning of of 2020. And there's a and I get how you might wanna be a bit, a bit leery of somebody who was that liberal.
But at the same time, if you listen to what she has to say, she that that whole 4 this past 4 years was a huge open eye opener for a lot of people who thought they were liberal.
[02:21:52] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Or they're liberal They voted red. Classic
[02:21:56] Rich Chelson:
sense now. And they actually understand what the liberal classic sense. They're not they're not the early 20th century, progressive. They're the classic liberal. And Right. So, but I have this this comedian, she she realized through everything that was going on, all this censoring and the and the and and the, the the suppression of of of voices and The cancel culture and all that. Cancel culture. The you must you must vaccinate without any proof of whether the vaccine was gonna work or not. Surprise, surprise. It didn't. They, a lot of the conservatives instantly started turn around going, hey. Woah. Woah. Woah. And started trying to cancel her.
And that's one of those things where when I I saw that, I was like going, dude. No. We can't be having that happen because that makes us that makes the conservatives just as fucking bad as the liberals.
[02:23:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I mean, there's not much difference.
[02:23:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, there's not, but we can we can step up and we can be better. Well We could Yes. We can. Yeah. Congratulations. Yeah. Welcome to the welcome to the to the, to the right side. We have milk and cookies. Would you like some? We're we're welcoming. We and we are actually the tolerant ones. We will we will have those discussions if you wanna have them. You don't wanna dab them? Alright. Cool. We'll still have the discussions, just not with you in it. And so there's a lot of, but there's this is something that I've kinda noticed that's been happening for a while since, since, since Trump came into office.
And, so it's just one of those where it's like, really? We've we're trying to go as far and as hard. And I get it to a point. I mean, we want there there are those who want to try to punish, you know, the left for what all that they did to us. And Milk is already spilled. Why fucking try over it? Why why do we feel a bit about it now? Because, you know, it's like, well, they need to know how we how it feels. No. Trust me. They know how it felt. Grow the fuck up and move on. That's the reason why they were doing it is because they knew what they were doing. They knew that if they shut you down, they could keep going on and have their electric boogie loo with with the with the drag queens and and grooming children.
[02:24:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:24:53] Rich Chelson:
But because it's the the whole, the DEI stuff is falling through the floor now and is crumbling quickly, a lot of people would realize it's like, oh, wow. And so, yeah, we're gonna have those who turn and go, okay. Well, I'm I'm on the, I'm on the side of no DEI even though y'all they I was talking about it for all the way up until just yesterday. I I see the difference. And whether they are actually have or not is is beyond the point. Because, I mean, I've hell, I was sitting there. I'm playing catch up on my podcast and I keep across a podcast episode of, of Alexandria Stockwell.
And she is a, an intimacy coach. And she had, oh, what was the name of that damn episode? Something about, how to breathe life into a sexless marriage or something like that. But, I mean and I'm I tried to I tried to hold on, and I've I do have my biases. Okay. And my biases when I start hearing certain keywords, I start getting the twitches, and so I have to turn the damn thing off. Mhmm. And the big the big one that I'll if I ever hear problematic, I know instantly which side of the aisle you're on. And so I had they had she had or Alexander Stockwell had this couple on. Mhmm. And it was a guy and a girl, a very effeminate sounding guy and a very masculine sounding girl.
Still sounded like a girl. I believe she was biologically grew up as a girl, and and feminine guy was just, you know, I hate was would, you know, probably, has both sides of his bread and butter.
[02:26:50] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I mean, either way, you know, there there are men and women who sound like that. Oh, well, yeah. But You know? As they were talking and they were talking about how they're
[02:26:59] Rich Chelson:
they're, they're they come across very problematic issues and all this and yada yada yada and boohoo and blah blah. And they were as they kept talking, they were throwing out made up words. I forget what it was. It's something like, some it was a it was a play on pivot on on how to, you know, on the pivot, from a from a view or for, from a problem, had a pivot on it, but it was a lot but it was some it was some dumbass made up work, either way. And, and just all those, I was like going as they kept talking and as, and and all that, you could just you could hear. It's like, oh, yeah. They're they're definitely, they're definitely professional shitsters. They're, you know, they're the activists. And, that stuff. And as I was like, yeah. Yeah. They are definitely, definitely liberal. And they were like and then we just had the election just, just, a couple weeks ago, and intimacy has been really hard on us since that time. I was like, oh god. Okay. Never mind. I'm out They let hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. They let they let
[02:28:15] Duuude-Ron :
a fucking presidential election dictate
[02:28:19] Rich Chelson:
Exactly.
[02:28:19] Duuude-Ron :
Their how how Their sex life they're going to be. How fuck now that's sad. Over this. That is sad. I don't care who you are. If if if you are willing to let an event that that whether you agree or disagree and you have no fucking control over, dictate what kind of sex life you have, you're a sad individual. You need to change your mindset. You need to grow up, get out of mommy and daddy's house. Okay. Stop living in the basement and actually adult.
[02:28:58] Rich Chelson:
Right. But and so but again, I can't just kind of as a means of being able to point finger to at me, that was an instance of where I I know for a fact I was showing no no tolerance. Because I I and like I said, it's it's almost like a rodeo. It's almost like bronc riding for me. It's like, how long can I hold on it? You know, it's like, I hear this. I'm like, okay. This is gonna be, this is gonna be an and I or several times I picked the phone up and I was like, no. No. No. Let's see where it goes. Sometimes you'll learn something really cool. I better not no. No. No. And I had that fight. And I mean, we got we got probably 30 minutes in to an hour show before I was just, like, tapped out. I was like, okay. I can't do this no more. Uh-uh.
[02:29:46] Duuude-Ron :
Just to say you're like done. You did done better than me. I mean, I I did tapped out after probably 3 minutes, but well,
[02:29:53] Rich Chelson:
as you, as you listen to it, you're at first, you're like, okay. Okay. Let's see what they got. And you started listening to them and you're gone. Wow. That's a really in feminine guy. And just his the voice patterns and and how he talks to you, you're like, okay. Okay. Okay. I think I know which side of the aisle these 2 people are on because they're like I said, they their one of their favorite words is problematic. And so and there's just a lot of problematic stuff that sometimes happens, you know, and it's just like, oh god. No. No. Not the problematic word. We're we're we're we're I know which direction we're going for sure.
[02:30:28] Unknown:
And,
[02:30:29] Rich Chelson:
and and then yeah. There they mentioned. It's like, yeah. Our our our love life took a bit serious dip after, after after the after the elections. It's like, alrighty. Yeah. See that? I'm sorry. But one of those that went crying and had to go to had to go to a, had to go to their to their, to their safe room. Yeah.
[02:30:53] Duuude-Ron :
Well well, Brian, hang on. We're here real quick because you dropped this in the chat and didn't let dude know, I don't think. Oh. Dude? I told him I was gonna put it in there. Yeah. But but you didn't tell him when you put it in there, so I don't think dude has seen this picture yet. Yeah. There's there's your baby. Are you looking, dude?
[02:31:17] Rich Chelson:
Did dude fall asleep?
[02:31:20] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. He's still on Zoom.
[02:31:24] Rich Chelson:
Well, I was on Zoom when I fell asleep. So
[02:31:29] Duuude-Ron :
Well well, now okay. Check this out. I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw another picture in the chat. It's a name we haven't heard in a long time. Mhmm. You gotta see what Monica Lewinsky looks like today. Oh, she's lost a lot of weight from what I understand. My god.
[02:31:49] Rich Chelson:
Check out this picture in the chat. Are you willing to get a Lewinsky from her now?
[02:31:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, dude. I'd get a whole lot of Lewinsky from her. I mean, she is she's very pretty.
[02:32:03] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, I thought she was pretty back then. She was on the pokey side. I agree to that. Yeah. No. No. I I did too. You know? Yeah. You know, that's Everybody was giving her giving her a lot of a lot of, lot of fit about the fact that she was a little rounder than than than Twiggy. Right. Well, yeah. I mean, the the model style back then was, you know, you have to be anorexic. You have to be able to see every single one of your ribs, encounter backbones, you know, and have skeletal people for as as high fashion models. And I was just like, no. And so, yeah, when Lowensky shows up, and she's she's got some meat on her bones, and everybody's making fun of her. I was like, going, oh, really? She's kinda cute. She's, you know Yeah. No. I I mean, I thought out of bed for eating Oreos.
[02:32:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. I mean, I was thinking the same thing, but, yeah, I I had saw something on Microsoft Edge. It said, Monica, Lewinsky is fixing to start a podcast. So I clicked on it. And, I saw that picture, and I'm like,
[02:33:09] Rich Chelson:
Really? I've got a cigar for you, man.
[02:33:13] Duuude-Ron :
I'm like,
[02:33:14] Rich Chelson:
holy crap. You know? Can I can I store my cigar in your humidor?
[02:33:22] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. It just it just, yeah. It just, yeah, it it kinda set me back because I hadn't I hadn't looked at a picture of her, and I'm just like Yeah. I hadn't seen her since, since the blue dress days. Right. Right. And I'm, you know, I'm thinking I'm thinking you was cute back then, but damn.
[02:33:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. All of a sudden, shed shed a little bit, few extra pounds and get your boobs. Good job. Alright.
[02:33:48] Duuude-Ron :
But but see this, you know, see that's that still gets me, dude, that that people and like I said earlier, people need to evolve. They need to change their mindset because letting an election, you know, rule your sex life.
[02:34:11] Rich Chelson:
Rule anything. I'm sorry. But No. Yeah. Just anything in life. It's like, oh, I'm gonna be depressed for the next, you know, month and a half. I mean, my my mom's is technically, he's a fucking roommate. He's not a, he's not her boyfriend, but she likes to try to call him boyfriend. And I I, personally, I think he's a little on the fruity side. That's just me. Don't know for a fact. Haven't actually asked him, so I don't know. But anyhow, he would he's a he's a big big screaming liberal. And, and, yeah, he's he's been, apparently, do, reports from, from my mole have said that, yeah, he he's apparently, checking out, checking out, checking out, what it takes to move to Costa Rica. And I'm like, please, dude, dude. Go. You're, like, 80 years old. And Good.
And I mean, it's funny because it's he's also thrown up let's see if I can find this, find out the actual phrase that he used.
[02:35:16] Duuude-Ron :
No. Yeah. No. You see you see, that's the thing. You know? I am all for that. You know, if you wanna let hey. You see, again, people are letting strangers dictate what they think, how they feel, and and how they react. It's like it's like, man, y'all have been brainwashed so bad. It's unreal. You know? I mean, I can't that's why that's why I can't listen to politics or or, you know, read about a lot of this shit because I just I get so mad at the fact that how people can let something this little control their whole life. They are missing out on a lot.
Right. I don't know. I'm just I'm just baffled, man. Right. I see. Where is this? I still got to do a little watch. Dude, did you wake up yet? How are your hearing aids up?
[02:36:21] Unknown:
Oh, I've been I've been listening to you guys tassing about your brick and brack.
[02:36:28] Rich Chelson:
Do you look in the, look in the chat?
[02:36:33] Unknown:
Yeah. No. It's in the chat. You talking about, boobies?
[02:36:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Your boobies. And the second one is Monica Lewinsky, dude.
[02:36:44] Unknown:
Monica Lewinsky.
[02:36:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Remember the blue dress back in the nineties?
[02:36:53] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:36:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Look at her today. She grew the hell up.
[02:37:01] Unknown:
Yeah. She did.
[02:37:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Right?
[02:37:07] Unknown:
And look what she's wearing. Crocs.
[02:37:12] Duuude-Ron :
No. It's not Crocs, dude.
[02:37:16] Unknown:
I can't wait till they go to high heeled Crocs. That yeah. That would be fucking hilarious.
[02:37:21] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, god. Fucking hospitals better gear up when they do. Fucking ER is gonna be full. Radiology is gonna take 2 weeks to get an x-ray. And that's the thing. That's with, digital, which is what they do X rays on now. Yeah. That's just but, yeah, Brian yeah. Yeah. Brian threw the picture in the chat, but he didn't tell you. And then I had just happened to see that picture of Monica, and I'm like, yeah. I need to throw that up. What's that? Because it's like, wow. Hell, she's what? 50 now, isn't she? I don't know.
[02:38:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Something close to that. Yeah.
[02:38:24] Duuude-Ron :
She wasn't, that old. She's 51. Yeah. Yeah. She, she born in 1973. So I fig I figured I figured, she was around my age, our age.
[02:38:48] Unknown:
Oh.
[02:38:51] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[02:38:52] Unknown:
Well, alrighty then.
[02:38:55] Rich Chelson:
So you're still looking.
[02:38:57] Duuude-Ron :
And she's an anti bullying activist. I mean, you think?
[02:39:08] Rich Chelson:
After what after what she went through? Yeah. Right.
[02:39:16] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, that was, yeah, that was bullying at its at its best, I guess. You know?
[02:39:27] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:39:28] Duuude-Ron :
So I mean, and, and no, I get it. I agree with her. You know, people shouldn't be bullied, you know? So I mean, you could say I'm an anti bully.
[02:39:47] Unknown:
I agree.
[02:39:49] Duuude-Ron :
But, you know, just be kind to people. But the thing is, I've been known to do this once or twice. I'll call people a dumbass to their faith because they're being a dumbass. Ask my nephew. He'll tell you. I call him a dumbass every once in a while. I love the hell out of him, but sometimes he just I'm like, dude, you're a dumbass. That's Dusty, the guy that races go karts. He likes to call me at, like, 9 or 10 o'clock at night and ask me a math question. I'm like, really, dude? And and he knows this. I've told him many times that it don't work that well, but, no, he still does it. Oh, I forgot. Sorry. You're a dumbass.
Alright. What's your math question? And it's normally about, tire stagger on a go kart because he has to measure the, circumference of his tires.
[02:41:02] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:41:03] Duuude-Ron :
And, they have to be within, like, an inch and a half of each other to, track right on the, you know, when he's racing. So, he'll, give me both measurements, and, I'll do the math for him and tell him if if, you know, if he's out too far or if he needs to adjust air pressure on one side or the other. And, honestly, I I yeah. Dude lives in Iowa, and he will call me from the track and say, hey. I've got a math question. Like, what? And I'm sitting here, and and I tell him. He's like, okay. I'm good now. I know what I have to do. I'm like, you sure? Yeah. I'm good. Okay.
Oh, yeah. He says I'm his tire guy. I'm like, dude, I live a 1000 miles away. But oh, Breezy turned 12
[02:42:13] Rich Chelson:
Yay.
[02:42:14] Duuude-Ron :
Last week. No. Don't be yay ing for her.
[02:42:19] Unknown:
No.
[02:42:22] Duuude-Ron :
I don't I didn't want her to turn 12. I did not want that to happen because she's getting older, dude.
[02:42:37] Rich Chelson:
She's not like that Sam I am. No. I don't.
[02:42:42] Duuude-Ron :
That's my little girl. She needs to be 34 years old. I'd be happy. Or 56, that's fine. But, no, no 12. It is weird, though, when I text her that, that, me and her can have a conversation. Still blows my mind. I know it's not it's not that hard to do, but it's true. Yeah. I sit there and, you know, I'm sitting here talking with a 12 year old, having a decent conversation, and I'm like, wow. No. Breezy, you're supposed to be younger. We're supposed to be talking about, you know, Paw Patrol or Pokemon cards or this crap, you know, whatever. Anything else. But now and it's like, really?
So, yeah, MJ fuck. I forget when his birthday is. I think it's August. And then me, I can't I can't remember when hers is. MJ, I think, will be 6 this year or 5. I can't remember. I just I just can't remember. Just can't. Oh, MJ's birthday is in October. Yeah. I don't know. Oh, yeah. October 9th. Don't know what year, but October 9th. So, dude, are you falling asleep on us, man? Yes. I think he's tired.
[02:44:37] Unknown:
No. I'm listening. CP. I'm listening.
[02:44:42] Duuude-Ron :
And wake the baby.
[02:44:47] Unknown:
I'm listening to y'all. Yeah. Yeah. You said what the hell you just can't remember what the hell you just said, but I'm listening to you. I'm listening
[02:44:58] Rich Chelson:
something.
[02:44:59] Duuude-Ron :
You sitting back there in the shadows, like, please leave me alone. I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to get a nap. Leave me alone. Trying to snooze.
[02:45:09] Rich Chelson:
So So well, yeah. So well, we've got, guess it's about time to to, to bring the old this old, this old show, down and bring it to a stop and and, so that one the dude could go off and actually get a nap. And, and, yeah, I'm I need to do the same because I gotta get up early so I can get over where I need to be by by early enough that I can make it back before my, with my delivery, my my second delivery for tomorrow so I don't have to actually do it on Sunday or, Saturday. So so yeah. So but anyhow, guys, alright. I wanna say thank y'all so much for taking the time out of your day. Have it sitting down and having a listen and seeing what, what 2 grumpy vets and a dude are are talking about. And today, we're done talking, you know, just kinda the random stuff that we often do. But, yeah. We have a we have some some great, great conversations, great times, and we do this out of a means of just showing everybody what it's like to have great conversations with with each other. Hold up. I got a cough.
[02:46:33] Duuude-Ron :
And, hold on. Still there. Hold up. Hold up. I was gonna say I didn't hear anything.
[02:46:39] Rich Chelson:
That's the power of the mute.
[02:46:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. Oh, okay.
[02:46:48] Rich Chelson:
Nothing like trying to start talking and all of a sudden get a tickle in the back. You're throwing your eyes.
[02:46:53] Duuude-Ron :
I hate that, man. I know, mister. Freaking hate that. That's that's why I got, like, a couple cases of water because
[02:47:01] Rich Chelson:
I'll slide over, grab a bottle of water, and jug half of it. Yeah. I got a I yeah. I usually keep a jug right here in front of me. I don't know why I didn't have it here with me this this time, but anyhow, so guys, yeah, we're we like to just sit down and we've been meeting together for several years since 21. And, and so we've just been a group of guy, a collection of guys who just like to have have good conversations, just share our lives together. And that's what we're doing. We're actually just sharing our lives together. We're touching base once a week. And it's not anything difficult. It's not anything hard. You don't have to have deep philosophical discussions. I mean, it's it's fun to throw those in from time to time, but they're not required.
And so that's what we do. We me and me and Rich, we like to sit around and bitch about stuff, or I like to bitch about stuff. And then Rich tries to, tries to throw me off my game by playing the opposite side, and it it it it does a good job of doing that. So yeah. I'm I'm I won't be able to sympathize with me, and he's like going, yeah. But what about this? It's like, well, I don't care.
[02:48:11] Duuude-Ron :
It builds character, man. And builds something.
[02:48:16] Rich Chelson:
Heartburn mainly. Right. But but anyhow, it so but this show is a value for value show. What does that mean? It means that we don't run advertisements. As you noticed, we didn't do, this show is brought to you by the makers of Prozac. You know? Prozac, sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Or, you know, or our, from this portion of the show is brought to you by the makers of, Tampax. We're not the greatest thing on there, but we're right up in there. So, you know, we we don't have those types of of advertisements. I mean, it'd be great if we'd worked, but at the same time, we don't because it's a it's a means of censorship.
Because all of a sudden, we can't just say whatever we want because we might say something that our sponsors will not like. I mean, that's why when you go on to YouTube, Dow, you see everybody talking about even people who are actually advocates for pornography, addiction recovery. They can't even say what their what their their business is about because they're using the word porn. And when you use word porn, oh my gosh, we can't do that because we can't we don't want people don't wanna advertise against, that that particular word. And so they've they get bumped down on the algorithm.
And so, instead of, talking about having porn addiction, they talk about having a corn addiction. And it's like, what the hell is a corn addiction? You know? It's no. It doesn't work. And that's liquor. Exactly. You know what I mean? Unless yeah. Well, I mean, they're okay with moonshine and corn liquor, but but, but, you know, to be have a corn addiction, I mean, it's like, no. There's a couple of, a couple of game, reviewers that, will show them playing through a particular game. And all of a sudden their game will turn black and white because again, YouTube doesn't like blood.
If what's doing a video game, there's gonna be a lot of blood just flying around because that's kinda the nature of the game. Right? Well But yet, they they, have to make these little idiosyncratic changes because they have to self censor themselves so that they can get money. Well, we don't do that. We are a value for value show, which means if you found any value from what we're doing, then help us in any way that you can. You can pay it back by time. You could provide some time. You could, fill out, our our chapters. You could, do, talent. Maybe you're a graphic saw graphic artist.
And so you wanna to, to apply your talents to creating the graphic, the, the cover art for the chapters. Or you can do treasure, which is if you, you have some extra money, whatever whatever you feel the value of of what you got from here is, share it out. Share it over to us. You can go to any of the podcasting 2 point o compliant apps, and there is a support this show button somewhere on that, on page for 2 grumpy vets and a dude. And when you click that, it brings up PayPal. You can actually, do PayPal payments that way.
And so you ask the help. If you want other ways of being able to send money, you can also send you can also, get ahold of us, and we can, we can give you mailing addresses and anything else so that you could actually send you know, maybe you wanna send a cashier's check or maybe even a paper check. I don't know how many people still use paper checks, but you might still use one. And so you wanna send one over to us. That way, we can accept, accept fiat currency and and that way too. So you however you want to be able to support the show, that's all we're asking you to do is try find a way to be able to support the show so that we can keep going. Because, you know, Ethan, right now, we're able to swing the, the the hosting and and stuff for the, for the show. But somewhere down the road, we may end up getting big enough to where we might have to start finding some other, get a little creative on how we do our do our show. And so we may need to have some extra funds available so that we can keep keep the show going.
So but that's just not anything at the moment, but somewhere down the road, who knows? You never can tell what the future may hold. So, but yeah, we are a value for value show. We enjoy the heck out of the fact that we're not going to charge you. We're not going to come up and start doing a Patreon of, well, for $5, you can do this. And for $20, you'll actually, you'll, we'll do the show in person in front of you or something. And, no, we're not gonna we're not doing that either. We're not gonna require withhold content from you simply because you weren't willing to cough up a little few extra dollars.
If you find the value of those few extra dollars there, then please again, please show it. Please share it, and and let us know and tell us thank you. And we will, we'll acknowledge the fact that you, that you helped the show, you supported the show, and we will we will come up with some fun and inventive way to, say thank you very, very much. So with that, I wanna say thank you again. To sing. Even if dude has to sing it. If dude we may end up cracking out the the the, the the pipe organ and have have dude, dance in a in a monkey outfit.
[02:54:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh.
[02:54:24] Rich Chelson:
Dude passed out again. He's like, uh-uh. So Alright. I'll go I'll go ahead and I'll quit my my chattering at the moment and let, and, Rich, what do you got to say about, about the closing shots?
[02:54:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, sorry about, stepping on you there right at the end of the day. I couldn't pass that up, man. That was just yeah. That was funny. But, now I wanna say yeah. Seriously, thank you to freaking everybody. I, Brian, I don't know if you've seen it yet or not. I just it just come through my email, I think, today. Oh, yeah. The way you you reached level 1. Yeah. We yeah. We reached level 1, with Pod Home. They have, different re re rewards you can get. I was like, that's cool. But, yeah, just all the freaking man. The numbers are just it's weird. We're not even a year into this yet. We still got two and a half months to go. Yeah. But we got a pretty good download here in the last 7 days, I just noticed.
[02:55:27] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Got a little bumpy.
[02:55:31] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We've gotten, yeah, quite a few downloads in the last 7 days. So, I mean, someone's listening to us, and I checked the OP three numbers, and, oh, god. The OP three numbers have come up. Yep. So, you know, I mean I mean, we're doing something right. Someone's listening and laughing. I, I, you know, I can't hear you laughing, but I know you're laughing because otherwise you wouldn't keep coming back and listening to us. But either way, just thank you for listening, share this out. And, you know, if you wanna reach out, you know, if like, like Brian said, you know, if you wanna volunteer some time or anything, email us. You can email me at rchelson.
That's r [email protected]@circlecast, circlecastgmail.com. And, you know, let us know what you think. And, yeah, just perfect that my phone had to go off right then and there. Of course. Yeah. I know. Right? That was just perfect. But and if you want to hear from the dude, just email either one of us, and we'll make sure the dude gets the question. And, we'll let him we will have him answer it on the air for y'all in in his infinite wisdom. So, I mean, that's that's easy easiest way. Reach out and just say, hey. How you doing? How's your mom and them? You know? You wanna help with, you know, show notes, cover art, whatever. Great. Come on. Because I'm not that great at it. I'm just, I'm, I'm struggling here, but I get it done anyway.
You know, thanks again. And, y'all have a great evening. And, dude, if you're still awake, turn your batteries up. What you got?
[02:57:35] Unknown:
Turn my batteries up, Wow. Nothing but low. Batteries up. That's right, man. My hatches up. Well, you know, again, we, come on this podcast every week, and we kind of beat each other up, and then we'll slap each other around, and then, you know, wash, rinse, and repeat, and we'll beat the shit out of each other. And, you know, that's just because this is what we enjoy doing, because we know that we are not gonna hurt each other's feelings, because we don't crack on each other maliciously. So, you know, we just enjoy cracking on each other just because we can.
Absolutely.
[02:58:27] Duuude-Ron :
So We don't let an election dictate our sex lives.
[02:58:32] Rich Chelson:
Sorry. I'm still on that. Okay? Sorry. But, I'm married, so I don't have a sex life.
[02:58:39] Unknown:
Or what or what gender we are.
[02:58:43] Duuude-Ron :
That too.
[02:58:44] Unknown:
Yeah. So but yeah. Again, everybody that, listens and, you know, enjoys our podcast, continue on to download them. And, you know, again, we have no idea what the podcast is gonna start with. Let sure the hell don't Don't know how it's gonna end, and don't ask us about the middle because that one's just as confusing going down all those gold falls. Go foals. And just going all over the place. So, you know, again, if you want us to speak on a particular topic that might interest you and you want our unso definitely unsolicited opinions, we can do that too. So That's what I got going on.
[02:59:52] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that sounds good. That's that that sounds real good. Yes. Yes. You wanna hear us hear our thoughts on a subject? Feel free. Email us, [email protected]@gmail.com, and we will definitely include it in a future episode.
[03:00:12] Rich Chelson:
Absolutely. And if you wanna send a message over to, over the dude, just send that over to [email protected], and we'll get it to him. [email protected]? You thought you thought I wouldn't go catch it. Oh, no. I figured you'd catch it. I'm just gonna make sure I do it every time now.
[03:00:33] Unknown:
Same as last week. But again, yo, give us a subject that we can bring it down to go for.
[03:00:43] Rich Chelson:
So Alright. Well, guys, y'all take care. Thanks again for, for listening. And, guys, thank y'all for, for coming on and and talking again, and we will, see y'all next week. Till then.
[03:00:57] Duuude-Ron :
Bye. He's out.
[03:01:02] Unknown:
See you next week.
[03:01:03] Rich Chelson:
Alright, guys. Catch you all next week. Bye. Alright. Alright. Love you guys. Bye.
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 Grumpy Vets. And, a Duuude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.
[00:00:11] Rich Chelson:
We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian Rich and the dude.
[00:00:35] Duuude-Ron :
Dude.
[00:00:37] Unknown:
What's up? Do you you the only one here?
[00:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Brian texted me, said he's grabbing food. He'll be on he'll be here shortly.
[00:00:46] Unknown:
Man, that Fucking slacker. You should've bought food or should've got food earlier. Damn it. Now Gee, Natalie.
[00:00:55] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. What you up to? Yep.
[00:01:00] Unknown:
Still trying to dry off from this morning.
[00:01:04] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. Really?
[00:01:07] Unknown:
Yeah. We got about 3 inches in an hour. Wow. This morning?
[00:01:14] Duuude-Ron :
I got up and, walked out, walked outside and summer was here. It was 70 degrees with about 85% humidity. I was in heaven.
[00:01:30] Unknown:
Yeah. You just gotta love that gulf humidity. Oh, yeah.
[00:01:34] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, that told me winter is fucking over. I'm good. It's like You know what?
[00:01:45] Unknown:
Now remember, this is only the end of January.
[00:01:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. The yeah. Down here, things only go warmer down here. They don't get colder again because I I was down here I was down here last year.
[00:02:02] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[00:02:03] Duuude-Ron :
So, yeah, things only get warmer from here, dude. So Well, and
[00:02:10] Unknown:
well, and your joints and your bones and your everything else will, you know, enjoy it. I know they enjoy the fucking cold just like mine don't. And they sure fucking didn't enjoy the freaking rain we had this morning. You know, I wouldn't have had a problem if it would've started the downpour after I had strapped up my truck and did the pretrip and all that other stuff. You know? And then as soon as I got into the cab, it could have down poured all I wanted, but no. It had to start while I was at the house. And of course, where did I leave my wet weather gear at?
In the fucking jeep. Oh, in the jeep? In the jeep at the house, though. But, shit, by the time I got from the front door into the jeep, my fucking pants were almost fucking soaked. That's crazy. That's short of a distance. That's how hard it was raining this morning. And, of course, it didn't stop until I was fucking soaking wet and, you know, my heavy jacket was soaking wet. My wet weather gear was soaking
[00:03:26] Duuude-Ron :
wet. You know, I would have called off. I would have said, yeah. No. My drawers are wet. Sorry, dude. I can't go to work. My drawers are wet.
[00:03:34] Unknown:
You know? And it just it's always fun to have wet feet all day long.
[00:03:40] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[00:03:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I just absolutely love that.
[00:03:44] Duuude-Ron :
That's why that's why I woulda called off. I would have said nope. Wet feet and wet drawers? No. That's enough to make you mad right there. I don't care who he is.
[00:04:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Pretty much. Thank goodness I got a heat seat, heater or a seat warmer in my seat in the truck, just like the one in the Jeep.
[00:04:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, at least your nuts were warm. I mean, that's That's right.
[00:04:16] Unknown:
That's right.
[00:04:17] Duuude-Ron :
That's that's a little better, but I I mean, not much when it's raining that hard.
[00:04:23] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Not not much better, but it is slightly better, you know Right. To have ro to have roasting nuts. Yeah. That, you know, that just gets it gives you a a a nice warm sensation. Yeah. It's kinda like peeing yourself. You know, it's nice and warm, and you enjoy it, but, you know, everybody else can see it, but you're the one that's enjoying it.
[00:04:55] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, I'm I'm gonna take your word for it there, dude, because, it's been quite a while since I have, ido myself. So I'm gonna take your word for it.
[00:05:07] Unknown:
Okay. Well, it's been quite some time since I've done that myself, but, you know But it's just a nice, warm, comforting feeling, I'm sure.
[00:05:24] Duuude-Ron :
I I see. I it's it's been so long. I can't even remember, man. But yeah. No. It was it was like 70 freaking degrees when I walked out today this morning, and I'm like, oh my god. I mean, no jacket. No nothing. Just walked out and, heaped.
[00:05:47] Unknown:
What time was that?
[00:05:49] Duuude-Ron :
Like, 8 o'clock this morning.
[00:05:51] Unknown:
Oh, wow. 8:15.
[00:05:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That's that's why it was like, oh, yeah. I can do this.
[00:05:59] Unknown:
So did it stay so did it stay pretty much a constant 70 all day long, or did it heat up?
[00:06:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, it warmed up a little bit. I I think you got 72, maybe 73 a day. Wow. Okay. I mean but it still it was yeah. It's springtime, dude.
[00:06:23] Unknown:
Yeah. We're supposed to be, they say, in the, low seventies on Saturday. Yeah. We're Saturday or Sunday. But we the clouds are gone. Clear sky now for through the weekend, at least.
[00:06:43] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that's And,
[00:06:45] Unknown:
and up getting up into the low seventies, so that'll be nice.
[00:06:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, and Brian made it. Recording in progress. Yeah. Exactly.
[00:06:59] Rich Chelson:
About damn time, you slacker. Hey. Hey. I was I was shit. Get my food, and goddamn they took forever.
[00:07:08] Unknown:
What what is your what did what did you get tonight?
[00:07:11] Rich Chelson:
Super nachos from, Taco Gassa. And that the only reason why I did that is because, the the barbecue joint that's right next door to it is too freaking
[00:07:27] Duuude-Ron :
expensive. So Okay. So in about an hour Jesus. Freaking age Christ. When they say supernautious, they ain't freaking lying. Holy crap. So, in about an hour and a half, you're gonna have to run back in and blow the bathroom up.
[00:07:39] Rich Chelson:
Okay. No. No. That's the that's in the morning.
[00:07:42] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. You'll let it churn all night long. Oh, hell, yeah. You gotta make it good.
[00:07:48] Rich Chelson:
You gotta make a make a good concoction to go.
[00:07:53] Duuude-Ron :
So
[00:07:54] Rich Chelson:
yeah. So how's everybody holding up today? I'm still trying to out. Whole lot better. Go ahead. Doing a lot better.
[00:08:03] Duuude-Ron :
Go ahead, dude.
[00:08:05] Unknown:
No. It that was just what I told Rich earlier. I'm still trying to dry off from this morning.
[00:08:11] Rich Chelson:
A little wet this morning, was it?
[00:08:13] Unknown:
We got about 3 inches in an hour this morning.
[00:08:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. That welcome to Dallas. I'll tell you that that And Dallas didn't get that type of rain.
[00:08:25] Unknown:
Yeah. And Dallas didn't get because we had a guy go up to GP and, you know, and this was in, you know, before the sun come up. And, of course, it had to rain well and downpour while I'm strapping up the truck and freaking doing a pre trip and all that. It could've waited until I got all that done and got No. No. It was already finished. Into the cab, and then it could I don't I downpour? Come on. So, yeah. It's always nice to be soaking wet for, you know
[00:09:02] Rich Chelson:
Most
[00:09:04] Unknown:
of the day. Yeah. And Yeah. My boots are still freaking soaking wet. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's one thing I just have not liked even I mean, the military is wet feet.
[00:09:18] Rich Chelson:
Nope. Don't like them either.
[00:09:20] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:09:21] Rich Chelson:
So but now I mean and and your your ordeal is kinda similar to to mine whenever it comes along raining or correction. Oh, boy. That pepper was a little hot.
[00:09:45] Unknown:
Oh, you want some you want some hot peppers?
[00:09:48] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. Not necessarily, but Oh, okay. I mean, there's just I've been saying I could jalapeno peppers, but boy, that one slapped the back of my throat and was gonna hang on to my tonsils for a little while.
[00:09:59] Unknown:
Oh, I could, I can get you some from a friend of mine that will not only hang onto your tonsils, but it will burn from start to finish. To finish. I mean, you'll be blowing flames out your asshole.
[00:10:18] Rich Chelson:
I believe it. I've I've had I mean, I've habaneros are the the hottest fresh thing that I can eat, and I will feel that the whole trip. Yeah. He's got some everywhere in my body that is that it's at at the moment. It was an experience. But,
[00:10:40] Unknown:
so, yeah, so like some that goes he's got some that goes into the million Schofield.
[00:10:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. But I'm free. When it comes to, comes to, like, you're talking about the catching rain stuff. Whenever I am, hauling something that I do I've got the choice of not tarping or not. Yes. A lot of the times, if I go without tarping, I'm it never fails somewhere around McAllister. I'm gonna end up starting to catch some rain. And then and it so if I tarp, it it is the rain repellent. I will not get a drop of rain from start to finish. Now, if I go and I go without the tarp, it'll start to get dark in the clouds. It'll start to really bunch up and might even see some thunder and lightning.
And then as you keep driving, all of a sudden you'll start getting patters on the window and it's like, oh, some bitch, no. Maybe it'll light at night, light up just a little bit, and it start keeps pattern and pattern, and then it gets a little bit harder. Oh, son of a bitch. Okay. So gotta pull over, and it's usually on the side of the damn, side inter Indian nation turnpike. I will hop out, pop all my, pop my, my tarps, toss them up there, get them all laid out and stuff. And the moment I get the last one unfurled draped down the side, the rain will stop almost every freaking time. It's like, I'll be wet, and I'll we'll have you know, it's coming down pretty good. But it'll I you know, I'll be I'll be pretty well, not soaked, but I'll definitely have, have a shirt that is, that's clinging to me.
Yeah. And the moment I get the tarps all all draped over, it lets up. And by that time, it's like, I'm already I'm already, you know, 90% there. All I have to do is add the bungees. And so it's like, screw it. Let's just bungee it all up because yeah. And then there's been times that I've they've threatened rain sometime in the middle of the night, and I will sleep like a like an insomniac with the worst, with the worst case of it. Because it'll be about every 15, 30 minutes. Heard rain. Heard rain. I'll poke my head out. Nothing. Lay back down. Oh, shit. It was raining.
Nothing. Goddamn. I'll be tired the whole next day.
[00:13:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I I can I resemble that remark so several times? So, you know, you got granted I'm not sleeping in the truck, but, you know and my cargo can get as wet as it wants to be.
[00:13:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Those aren't half bad.
[00:13:58] Rich Chelson:
And, Rich, so what have you been up to?
[00:14:01] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I walked out of my porch this morning, and I walked out. It was warm, and the humidity was there. And I just held my arms up and went, oh. I was like in heaven. I was like, yes. And because it was 70 degrees this morning, about 85% humidity, and I'm like, winter is gone.
[00:14:26] Rich Chelson:
I was like moment.
[00:14:28] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. Down here, it's gone. See you later. Bye.
[00:14:34] Rich Chelson:
It's winter here. You're you're in, you're in early spring now.
[00:14:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you say I was down here last year during this time, and it was warm. In fact, I mean, I did have the strong thought about taking my top off today, but I didn't.
[00:14:58] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I I wouldn't. You still got rain coming. Yeah. I know. Sometime in the near future.
[00:15:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I give it probably another couple weeks and, yeah, my top will come off and stay off. So And just drive around in the rain. Ah, yes. I mean, now a couple weeks, I said. So about about the middle of February in February, we shouldn't have much rain anymore, and I'll I will I will vacate the, the, topping doors.
[00:15:31] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But what happens to, to April showers or, yeah.
[00:15:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. That's just up north, dude. Not down here.
[00:15:42] Rich Chelson:
No. I don't know about that. We have hurricane season, dude. Hurricane season have hurricane season, but y'all also get, you know, y'all are still ever so slightly part of tornado alley, and so you're gonna have the thunderstorms rolling in in the spring.
[00:16:00] Duuude-Ron :
We didn't have many roll in last year. Oh, we didn't have many roll in either, but doesn't mean No. I mean I mean yeah. Yeah. It did rain, but, you know, it didn't it didn't rain that much. I mean, dude, trees are already budding. Okay? Okay. Serious, man. The trees are like, dude, winter's fucking over. We can come back out. Trees are budding.
[00:16:26] Rich Chelson:
We had our obligatory 30 degree weather. It's time to get moving.
[00:16:31] Duuude-Ron :
Right. I mean, I was, you know, I was looking out at the trees and, you know, I'm seeing buds coming out and I'm like, you know, and that's, that's only for the trees that didn't lose their leaves. And 90% of the trees don't lose their leaves. They lose some of them, but they have enough to keep covered with, you know? Right. Naked. You know, it's not like, north where where where all the leaves just vanish and leaves the trees naked. Not down here, man. You know, we got green.
[00:17:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. You've got your live oaks, which they'll those will make those are evergreens. Pines, cedar. Yeah. You got your pines and cedars and stuff.
[00:17:16] Duuude-Ron :
Magnolia trees. I've got a small leaf holly tree that stayed green. Yeah. I mean, yeah, dude. Most of our shit stays, stays green, literally.
[00:17:30] Rich Chelson:
Wow.
[00:17:31] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We don't. Yeah. We don't. Down here, you will see green. And we even when it snowed, you still saw green, and it wasn't just your cedar trees and your pine trees.
[00:17:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, I mean, we had the same way. We had, we have a I don't know what type of grass it is, but it'll, got little patches of grass in everybody's yard that it's it does really good and cool weather. And so it'll yeah. You'll get, you'll get some snow, and it'll pile up. And then whenever it thaws whenever it all thaws out and then it gets moisture, boy, that stuff turns green. Loves being loves it, being cool.
[00:18:15] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Now about April, we'll see, the magnolia trees bloom. They bloom once a year Yep. For about a
[00:18:28] Rich Chelson:
week.
[00:18:29] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And then they swallow up and then, then the squirrels will gnaw off them them buds and chunk them at my roof.
[00:18:39] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. So it's telling me that they can't be on your porch.
[00:18:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But that's just rude, man. Because it because I'm serious about inviting them onto your porch. Well, no. No. Because there was a few that that that was bringing acorns up on my porch
[00:18:59] Rich Chelson:
in last, like, November. Wanna know if you would trade, an acorn for a magnolia. Odd.
[00:19:07] Duuude-Ron :
Like, no. No. It it it it does mean no good. So, but now, now that y'all are here, I can actually show y'all this picture that I bought in the French Quarter. I got it on there. Oh, got
[00:19:26] Unknown:
finally came?
[00:19:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I came today. So I've got that up in the chat right now. Yep. Yeah. So it's called a night on Royal
[00:19:47] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:19:47] Duuude-Ron :
Which is Royal Street.
[00:19:49] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yep. Done by Omni.
[00:19:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. But yeah. No. I yeah. I saw that and it's like, that was just beautiful. Mhmm. Yeah. They had mentioned about hanging it over my piano and and everything, and I'm like, yeah. That would look good. And then and then I did, and I'm like, yeah. That that really that really sets that area off real well.
[00:20:14] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yep. Now you can't and now you can't you set the keyboard to just regular piano. Now you have to go off and do church organ.
[00:20:23] Duuude-Ron :
Church organ? Come on, dude. Not yet. Not yet. I'm still I'm still I'm still working on piano man, dude. I don't think piano man sound good on a church organ. Just saying.
[00:20:37] Rich Chelson:
Well, you got piano man with a with a with a New Orleans picture over it. This wouldn't be a that's a that's a mixture in itself.
[00:20:45] Duuude-Ron :
Right. And and here's here's here's one of my newest pitchers I did today.
[00:20:56] Unknown:
That was gonna be my next question.
[00:20:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. How did your, You spinning stuff yet or you still just dump pouring? Oh, no. I'm spinning now. I'm spinning, dude. Just just focus 1 in the chat. Oh, yeah. I I, I poured it on there once I all got on there and then I spun it. Yeah. Oh, man. I I love the spinning. Now Hey.
[00:21:22] Unknown:
Go ahead. Just to let you know, Rich, that picture that you did that you just posted
[00:21:28] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[00:21:29] Unknown:
FYI, that's coming home with me.
[00:21:33] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[00:21:35] Unknown:
That is fucking cool.
[00:21:38] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Okay. Hang on a little bit. Look at this next one I did. I I I did too today. And I'm not sure which one I like the best because they're both freaking they both turned out awesome. I mean, seriously, they both turned out awesome.
[00:21:56] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:21:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Got rich. She's turning into the alt east.
[00:22:04] Rich Chelson:
Well, it looks like the sun or there's moon shining through some branches.
[00:22:09] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that or or I mean, I was thinking, you know, because, this, second one, you know, looks like it's, like the inside of an organ or a heart or something, and these are the pathways.
[00:22:23] Rich Chelson:
Oh, well, I was thinking like I said, it looks like a sun looks like the sun or the moon shot through some branches.
[00:22:30] Unknown:
So Yeah.
[00:22:31] Duuude-Ron :
I mean Well, no. That's fine. Do you see? That's fine. You know? I I'm just It's not fine. It's my way. It's, it's the right way. Okay?
[00:22:40] Unknown:
Hey. It looks like a sport. It looks like the winning sperm.
[00:22:44] Duuude-Ron :
The winning sperm. Okay. Hey. I could name that picture that the winning sperm. That would be funny. But now this one yeah. This one yeah. And and this black one, I just fucking love this black one, man. It is. And and if you can zoom in zoom in on it. If you can, bring it up and zoom in on it. Yeah. Go ahead.
[00:23:11] Unknown:
I can.
[00:23:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Zoom in and and look at it because I used a lot of, lot of, say, a metallic paint. Like, the pink, the purple.
[00:23:24] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[00:23:25] Duuude-Ron :
The white and black were just white and black, but the other colors were, were a metallic. I just I just thought it turned out real well.
[00:23:35] Unknown:
Oh, oh, yeah. And then and then when it then then when they spread Yeah. You know, it it the metallic going into those areas just, like into the black. Yeah.
[00:23:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And see what that's like with the second one. I I used a lot of metallic in it too. And, the yellow, I think, is just regular yellow and it just or no. It's called sunshine, I believe. Okay. And, it just when when I was pouring this one, the the, one with all the yellow in it, when, I was pouring this one, I don't know how, but I saw the center, and then I started moving my cup around a little bit. Right. And then and then as as I was pouring it, I could see the different looks coming in, and I almost went right back to the middle of it. And I stopped right at the last second and then swung out on and then swung out on the outside because I'm like, I'm not messing with that center.
And then I kinda tilted the paint a little bit, and then I spun it. That's fun. Spinning spinning is a lot of fun. I'm telling you. So
[00:24:58] Unknown:
Is it just a slow spin, or do you get some speed on it or just all the
[00:25:03] Rich Chelson:
12 100 RPM, man.
[00:25:07] Duuude-Ron :
No. I don't go full bore, but, I'm not I'm not too soft with it. I get it going pretty good for Oh. I let it spin. You see, I can watch it. And then, you know, once once I see us getting close, you know, I'm just, I'm just mainly trying to spread things out and get them over the edge, and stuff like that, but still keep the look I see some, you know, cause a paint's gonna go wherever, but, you know, I can slow it down or stop it. And then if if I stop it too early, guess what? I can spin it again.
[00:25:51] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:25:52] Duuude-Ron :
You know? So, I mean, it doesn't matter if I spin hard or soft because if I don't spin hard enough, guess what? We're going for another round, dude. We're gonna spin again. So but, yeah, that's
[00:26:13] Rich Chelson:
these 2 these 2 are my latest ones. Rob, you definitely need to put those up on, up on the, on the show notes so folks can, who are listening will be able to swing by and take a peek and see at it over
[00:26:28] Duuude-Ron :
at,
[00:26:30] Rich Chelson:
over at 2 grumpy vets.com, and that's the letters t w o.
[00:26:36] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. No. That's yeah. I was gonna do more, but but I I I got excited. And so I I had to go, woah. Woah, Tonto. Woah.
[00:26:56] Rich Chelson:
Or you'd spend your whole month, monthly budget on on page.
[00:27:02] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. Because, yeah, I've got I've got another set of paints in my Amazon, cart right now.
[00:27:12] Rich Chelson:
I'm watching watching him come out. All of a sudden, he's like, yeah. I'm going for the big one. We've got a, we've got a 63 inch by 63 inch. You know what? Said we're gonna paint now. So
[00:27:27] Duuude-Ron :
I I haven't thought that far ahead yet, but, I mean, I won't say it won't happen this year, but then again, it might. But I might do a 20 by 30 depending, but I would need a bigger spinner because the, because the spinner I got is only is only 11 inches. Wow. So
[00:27:49] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's a little confining.
[00:27:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. I can do I can do a, a 11 by 14, but that's about it. You know? Right. So so once I get a bigger spinner, then I could just, yeah,
[00:28:07] Rich Chelson:
yeah, swing it out to whatever. Yeah. Go get one of those old wash, wash tubs. Put it in the middle, and that way that becomes your that becomes the, the spinner and all that. And so, you know, we Yep.
[00:28:28] Unknown:
Well, yeah, the catcher. And a paint catcher.
[00:28:34] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm. Well, I would I would have to put cardboard all over the freaking wall.
[00:28:39] Rich Chelson:
No. You just put just wrap it around the wrap it around the around the drum.
[00:28:46] Duuude-Ron :
No. Because you if I got a washer machine and I was doing a, 20 by 30, I couldn't spin it inside the drum, dude.
[00:28:57] Unknown:
No. Yeah. You couldn't do that.
[00:28:59] Duuude-Ron :
I would have to set it on top of the drum and then spin it, which I could do there, but I would still have to put something on the walls so I didn't sling paint.
[00:29:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That. Yeah. Yeah. Throw paint all over the place. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:29:14] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, I could. Okay? I could do that if I wanted.
[00:29:18] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh. Yeah. You can make your you can make your room look like a Jackson symbolic painting.
[00:29:23] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, I could do that because, I mean, I mean, that's where a dude's sleeping at when he comes down for a jeep in the coast. Sounds good. No, dude.
[00:29:41] Unknown:
Psy or, psychedelic? Sure. Why not?
[00:29:45] Rich Chelson:
Put some black lights in there, strobe light.
[00:29:49] Duuude-Ron :
Lava lamp, shit like that. Oh, yeah. End of God's Divitas on repeat. No, dude. Give me about another week and, that black one will be yours. I'll save it for you. I'm gonna get some, craft varnish spray varnish. And, once it fully dries, I'm gonna spray it and to where it seals it.
[00:30:20] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[00:30:21] Duuude-Ron :
So so, yeah, it'll be well, see, that one I just did today, so it'll be probably tomorrow or Saturday when it's done when it should be dry, but I'll probably let it go for another 4 or 5 days, then I'll spray it.
[00:30:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Because acrylic takes quite a while to dry. Yeah. No.
[00:30:45] Duuude-Ron :
24 to 36 hours on the average.
[00:30:47] Unknown:
Oh, really? Yeah.
[00:30:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's water based. It's it's like, say, it's like latex paint.
[00:30:54] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[00:30:56] Duuude-Ron :
You can paint a wall in a house, and 5 hours later, it'll be dried to the touch.
[00:31:02] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:31:03] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, yeah. You know, I but you see, the thing is the reason why it takes 24 to 36 hours is because you use an ass load to paint. I mean, it's not an ass load, but it's for
[00:31:14] Unknown:
a small canvas. For the yeah. For the size and for the design. Yeah. I'm sure.
[00:31:21] Duuude-Ron :
So so, yeah, I'll just I'll just let it sit and let it dry out, and then I'll spray it, and then it'll be yours. Alrighty.
[00:31:33] Unknown:
As you call this I will have plenty of room in the Jeep to bring it back.
[00:31:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, let's hope. Let's hope.
[00:31:44] Unknown:
Well, got the vacation now.
[00:31:46] Duuude-Ron :
So Don't shoot yourself in the foot just shut, bubba. I got you. Jeep Jeep in the coast. Oh my god. There's a lot of stuff. But now that's that's about what I did. Played my piano also. I didn't do too I didn't do too much else. I wanted to do more paintings, but I had to ace myself.
[00:32:19] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:32:20] Duuude-Ron :
Because it was so beautiful out today.
[00:32:23] Unknown:
Yeah. I wonder if you start to get a collection of those. I bet you could probably put them on Etsy.
[00:32:36] Duuude-Ron :
I probably could.
[00:32:40] Unknown:
You know? I you know what? I guarantee you that if you started putting them up there and you start making them, you will sell them.
[00:32:50] Duuude-Ron :
And, I mean, that's dude, that is very possible. I mean, I'm not knocking that in in the least bit because you see the, well, on YouTube, there's a guy. I think he lives in North Carolina, and he doesn't say it, but by the shirts and hats I've seen him wear, I think he's a veteran. I'm not a 100% sure, though. But he does it, and I don't know if he sells them or not, but I think he does. But he does lives and shit like that, which, I mean, his shit is cool. He's been doing it for quite a while. But, you know, other people the bulk of the videos I'd been seeing are 5 6 years old, and this is back during COVID.
You know? Yeah. And everything. This is when everyone was like, oh, I've got nothing to do. You know? And this is when they did it.
[00:33:50] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:33:53] Duuude-Ron :
So and then now I don't I don't I mean, as far as the videos go, I don't see many that are current. I see a few that are current, you know, within the last month or couple weeks or whatnot, but I don't see many that are current. So I don't know. Maybe maybe people's, you know, are busy again, so they're like, you know, I'll buy them, but I ain't gonna make them. Yeah. But who knows? Like I said, I don't know. I'm just I'm I'm just having fun.
[00:34:28] Unknown:
Well, there you go.
[00:34:30] Duuude-Ron :
You know? It is it is WUSA. It's peaceful, man. Yeah. Like
[00:34:37] Unknown:
like So even if you Uh-huh. So even if you say you listed it for $20, is that almost doubling your in or your cost with the canvas and you may paint and all that stuff?
[00:34:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, fuck, dude. $20 is, like, freaking a couple 100%
[00:34:59] Unknown:
more. Oh, okay.
[00:35:01] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, yeah. I mean, seriously. Yeah. And you see, that's the thing, though. If you price it too cheap, no one's gonna buy it, think it's, you know, thinking it's crap. But Mhmm. You don't wanna overprice yourself and like a little 8 by 10. I don't I I mean, honestly, I don't know because I haven't thought this far ahead yet, but I would think $20 for an 8 by 10. You know, 30 probably would be max. But, then again, I don't know because I don't know what the market would bear. So, you know, I can't say, but, yeah, $20 would definitely pay for everything I used and still leave me money to buy more.
More paints, more canvas, more shit. Yeah.
[00:35:51] Unknown:
So And then what size is that one that you did that I'm wanting?
[00:35:55] Duuude-Ron :
What size was that? Hang on. Let me look at it again.
[00:35:59] Unknown:
I forgot.
[00:36:03] Duuude-Ron :
Because the black one, that's an 8 by 10. The, white one, that's an 8 by 8 square.
[00:36:11] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[00:36:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. These are just boards. These aren't even really a canvas, but I can I can put something on the back of them so you can hang hang it up if you want it? You could hang it up in your bathroom so you'd have something to contemplate on when you're pooping. You know?
[00:36:35] Unknown:
I I hear you, but no. That will go in my room.
[00:36:40] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. No. That's cool too. That's cool too, but, you know Well,
[00:36:46] Unknown:
you you know how I like purple.
[00:36:49] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. But, yeah, I was just I was just I was just kinda playing and and I learned I learned something. I I had an epiphany today. Oh, hell.
[00:37:04] Unknown:
Well, 1 okay. Do and remember your thought, but I'm gonna interrupt you. Remember your thought, epiphany. 1, that is a very big word just for you in general, not the time of the evening, but just in general. And wow.
[00:37:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Exactly. I mean That and then he just say it so that he actually had an apostrophe like that was is amazing.
[00:37:29] Unknown:
And and if the way he spoke that word was just so eloquently done.
[00:37:39] Duuude-Ron :
I see. But now had an epiphany today
[00:37:43] Rich Chelson:
because okay. So what was your apostrophe?
[00:37:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when when, say it was on, hang on. Let me look at it. It was on that second one, the 8 by 8 square with, all the yellow in it. When you pour it in your paints, right, whatever you pour on the bottom, the bulk of it is gonna come out last.
[00:38:12] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:38:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, well, and see, that's the thing. I didn't know this, you know, and, you know, I, so, so I put yellow in the bottom and then I started stacking my colors, you know, the blues, the whites, the the, fluorescent reds and shit like that. And and and and all like that. And I was just stacking my colors in there. And then when I was pouring it, I was watching them as they come up to the edge of the rim and then start to come out and, you know, fall onto the canvas and everything. And then I'm like, well, there's no yellow, no yellow, no yellow. And then finally I started seeing a little bit of yellow and I was like, oh, shit. There we go. I'm like, oh, okay.
So, yeah, I figured something out today. I was happy. I was excited. I was like, hell yeah. I could do this. So I gotta remember when I'm pouring paint onto the canvas, whatever I wanna see on top, I gotta put in first. But half the time, I don't I don't even know what I wanna see on top, let alone on the bottom. Yeah. And I know and I know that didn't sound right, but, you know, I used my big word for the day. Okay?
[00:39:37] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. That was that was definitely a big, luxurious word.
[00:39:44] Duuude-Ron :
Well, thank you. I appreciate it. I try. Every once in a while, I do try. Granted, it's very, very little, but I do try.
[00:39:56] Unknown:
You're right. Yeah. You do resemble that remark. Very little. You're right. Very little. Very little. It's one of those that just comes and smacks you up in the back of the fucking head.
[00:40:09] Duuude-Ron :
You wouldn't expect in that one, was you, dude?
[00:40:12] Unknown:
No. Nope. Not at all. Well, I don't expect anything. I just, you know, I'm just here lurking in usually usually lurking in the shadows. Oh, you're funny, dude. Shadows.
[00:40:33] Duuude-Ron :
Shadow nose. The shadow nose.
[00:40:38] Unknown:
Not a damn fucking thing.
[00:40:41] Duuude-Ron :
But the shadow nose. But yeah. No. I yeah. I I because I was definitely wanting to spin. I was I was definitely wanting to try that technique. And when I did that, I'm like, fuck. I'm spinning all the time now. Screw that. Yeah. Well, it's just It's fun. Because
[00:41:05] Unknown:
when you spin it, the paint is just gonna do whatever the fuck it wants to do. You know? Depends on how quickly you spin. Hell, if you're doing, like, freaking mach 1, you could turn it into a freaking, a tie dye.
[00:41:23] Duuude-Ron :
You know? But You know what? I ought to I ought to try and do that just for you, man. You and Brian.
[00:41:30] Unknown:
There you go. Yeah. Just get that get that thing spinning and see if it doesn't turn into, like, you know, a tie dye and just shooting or blowing the paint out.
[00:41:42] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I might I might have I might have tried that. I might have tried that.
[00:41:50] Unknown:
I'll take the purples and blues.
[00:41:52] Duuude-Ron :
Purples and blues. Listen, dude. I already put orders out. I take purples and blues, dude. You gonna need a little white and yellow in there, dude. Faint. Faint. But you gonna need, you know I don't oh. Oh, okay. Well, I got I got something else coming. It's a it's a, it's a silicone. It's see, it's called a flower. It's what it is. It's a upside down cup that has ridges, and you pour the paint on it, and it just rolls right over the edges and then goes down onto the canvas and spreads out, and you just Uh-huh. You just keep pouring paint on top of it till you're done. And then when you're done, you just lift that up, and then you can tilt it.
You can spin it. You can draw in it. Because you see, that's the thing. Like, now tomorrow, I might try to, draw in and then spin them out. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know yet. It depends on what it looks like as I'm pouring it.
[00:43:05] Unknown:
Right. Yeah.
[00:43:07] Duuude-Ron :
So but and, I mean, honestly, I could yeah. I could probably do 5 or 6 pieces a day, but I would have to buy a lot more canvas.
[00:43:21] Unknown:
Yeah. And, oh, doing 5 or 6 versus 1 or 2, when is it going to go from enjoyment to the fact, oh, I gotta do another one or I gotta do another one or another one. You know? You see,
[00:43:40] Duuude-Ron :
though, though, go ahead.
[00:43:43] Unknown:
Just I you know what? Because you enjoy that so much, just do, you know, 2, 3 at the most. You know, whatever your enjoyment is for doing them, but don't, you know, try to do mass production.
[00:44:01] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no.
[00:44:05] Unknown:
Then you'd start to hate it.
[00:44:07] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. No. No. I'm no. No. I'm not I'm not I'm not doing these to try, you know, to do mass production. I'm just I'm just I'm just doing these because I love the, the the freaking color schemes, the the freaking pictures that freaking come out because I've got no control over this. Or, you know, I've got very little control as to how these come out. And this is this is what's the beauty of it.
[00:44:37] Unknown:
Yeah. That's the whole fun part is, yes, you can drop your paint where okay. Here, there, there, here. But when you start spinning it, yeah, the paint is gonna do what it wants to do. Mhmm. And you don't have any control. And then, you know, what your outcome is is what the paint wanted to do. And I see, you know, another part of your enjoyment is, okay, a couple of blobs turned into this whole painting, you know, wow type aspect.
[00:45:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And see, normally and I know y'all are gonna probably give me shit for this, but, you know, when I do this Of course. We're supposed to. Well, you see, when I do this, I normally tell I normally tell Alexa to play classical piano music. So I'm listening to that, and and I've got I've got Alexa in in the in the, second bedroom there. And and it's playing classical piano music, and I'm just sitting here mixing colors, and then I'm pouring it on, and then I'm spinning it. And then yeah. And and and then I'm just an awe, and it's like, oh, shit. I gotta take a picture of it. You know? So it's like yeah. It's it's I got a whole process, man.
Just in a very short amount of time, I've I've got a process. Yeah. It's like as yeah. It's like my woosah factor.
[00:46:09] Unknown:
And as long as you hit as long as you hit the WUSA, that's all that matters.
[00:46:16] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I agree. I agree. But
[00:46:19] Rich Chelson:
y'all may I just don't wanna see you hit that WUSA. That that just sounds like yeah. No. Sounds like private time personally.
[00:46:30] Unknown:
Well, I don't wanna I don't wanna see it either. I agree with you, Brian. I don't wanna see it either. I just wanna make sure that he gets his Woosah. Yeah. No. That's all that matters. Now what he does with his Woosah, well, that's up to him.
[00:46:52] Rich Chelson:
That's a critter altogether different.
[00:46:54] Unknown:
That's right.
[00:46:56] Duuude-Ron :
I swear. Leave it to y'all to to because I hadn't even thought of it like that till y'all said so.
[00:47:04] Unknown:
Now we just done fucked it up for you. Yeah. You did. In your I didn't I didn't fuck it up for you. That was breaking news. In on it. Well, of course, I did. But you're you're gonna have to I wouldn't have ever said anything until Brian, you know, made the took the initiative. You know? But, yeah, you know you know us. We nothing but love.
[00:47:31] Rich Chelson:
Right. Nothing but love.
[00:47:33] Duuude-Ron :
I hear you.
[00:47:36] Unknown:
And the more love you get, the more we laugh.
[00:47:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shoot. So, yeah, I don't I don't know yet what I'm gonna do tomorrow, but I probably am gonna spend some more tomorrow. I gotta crawl up in my attic, which I've been fucking debating on because I know I've got more canvases up there in the package still. I just I'm just dreading crawling up there. So because me and ladders don't work too
[00:48:17] Unknown:
Well, I'm I'm not gonna comment on that one. I'll leave that one alone.
[00:48:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:48:29] Unknown:
So did you guys now going into a completely different direction, do you guys hear about the accident that happened in DC?
[00:48:37] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Was it yesterday? About to bring that up myself.
[00:48:40] Duuude-Ron :
Wow. People people are even blaming Trump for this shit.
[00:48:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Well, of course. He was just pilot. Of course, he's he's also, you know, he's also blaming the real culprits of of of there not being that many, actually qualified, folks in, in the air traffic control system anymore. It's thanks to, thanks to Obozo. And DEI. Right? Well, yeah. That that's why to led to lack of it is Yeah.
[00:49:17] Duuude-Ron :
Well, and see and see, that's the thing, you know, because I I just I just glanced at an article before we all got on, You know, just because I I had well, I watched TikTok a little bit today, and, yeah, fucking everybody is just slamming Trump for everything under the sun. Well, yeah. I mean, that's the and and and, Reddit's doing the same thing, of course. Right. But but you see, the thing is, it's like you know, I'm just like, okay. What what the fuck is this? And then I had heard talk of this, plane crash in in Washington, DC, and everyone's saying how how how is Trump's fault because he fired all these people. And I'm thinking just because he fired them people, the job still goes on.
So it doesn't matter who you fucking fire as long as you have an ass in that seat operating the radar,
[00:50:11] Rich Chelson:
controlling these planes and shit. Yeah. The the admin the everything is not in that control tower.
[00:50:20] Duuude-Ron :
Exactly. Exactly. And I'm like, so shut the fuck up, people. Oh, yeah. I was I man, I was like and then I then I shook my head because it's like, yeah. You're right. You know? And it's like, I don't know.
[00:50:41] Unknown:
You know? And I haven't, obviously, the the investigation is still ongoing. But you know what? JFK has a set flight path for landings and takeoffs. And and a helicopter can't doesn't know that?
[00:51:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, it couldn't help it. It was a marine helicopter.
[00:51:12] Unknown:
Well, I think, you know,
[00:51:14] Rich Chelson:
you know, I bet you what happened is the pilot dropped his back his box of crayons and and got and and was digging around for that
[00:51:23] Duuude-Ron :
and drifted out of the way.
[00:51:26] Unknown:
Yeah. But still, that's a set pattern. I'd the helicopter, in Ron's opinion, is at fault. You know? Because it you'd I don't I don't I don't get it. I didn't see the video if there's even video of the incident happening Oh, yeah. Or whatnot. What? Is there?
[00:51:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. There's there's some I mean, it's not it well, it it happened at night, so, you know, it's not the best. And it was actually a distance away. You actually at first, you think when you see the video, you it looks like well, hell, let me see if I can find it. I'll throw it up in the chat so you can actually look at it. So, let's see here. Hell, yeah. Apparently, the, the RFK, junior, confirmations got went on this weekend. So and so barely him and him and, and oh, oh, Barney are are are about to throw down.
[00:52:46] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I saw a little bit of, yeah. JFK Junior and Bernie. Yeah. Didn't watch all of it, but, you know, I don't know. Did, the DOJ get, confirmed? Or the, the what the hell is her name? Dami? Did she get confirmed yet?
[00:53:11] Duuude-Ron :
That I don't know. Who? Dami?
[00:53:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[00:53:18] Unknown:
For the director of
[00:53:21] Duuude-Ron :
the DOJ.
[00:53:25] Unknown:
Let's see. I know that Noam got, her confirmation yesterday for HSI director. And she's heading down to the border, I think, this weekend.
[00:53:43] Duuude-Ron :
Who? The governor of North Dakota?
[00:53:48] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:53:50] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. She's cool. I like her. Yep. Plus she's hot.
[00:54:00] Unknown:
Well, you know what? Why don't you go ask her for try to get, you know, some way, shape, or form, ask her to give her or, have her give you her number.
[00:54:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Probably wouldn't happen, dude. She's married.
[00:54:18] Unknown:
Well yeah. And it wouldn't probably wouldn't happen anyway because you don't have a high enough security clearance.
[00:54:25] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that's true. Yeah. This says Mizelle is, I guess, being fur. No. I don't know. Yeah. The next chief of staff at the DOJ. Trump chose Chad Mizelle. I don't I don't I don't I don't keep up on this stuff, so I don't know.
[00:54:51] Unknown:
No. Domi is, going after confirmation to be the director of the DOJ. Well, the highest person, whatever that title is.
[00:55:03] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:55:05] Unknown:
I think she'll I personally think she'll get it, but, you know
[00:55:08] Duuude-Ron :
I didn't you see, I don't know. I just spin.
[00:55:15] Unknown:
Yeah. We know you don't get into politics.
[00:55:18] Duuude-Ron :
No. If it doesn't directly concern you, you're out. Pretty much.
[00:55:25] Unknown:
And, you know, I don't follow it for the for the most part, but, you know, somebody some of these people gotta be better than the fucking last
[00:55:36] Duuude-Ron :
group ever was. Right. But, I mean, still, you're gonna make your money. You're working, so you're gonna make your money.
[00:55:52] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:55:53] Duuude-Ron :
So I don't care what they do, actually. I really don't. But that's me.
[00:56:00] Unknown:
I I would just like to see the corruption cleaned up a little bit. You know, it's never gonna go away because it's been there since day 1 of, you know, white people coming to North America. You know, corruption has always been there. Hell is what the Romans, the Babylonians, you know, everybody.
[00:56:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:56:30] Unknown:
And so but just to be able to clean up a little bit would be nice.
[00:56:37] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. Yeah. I'm not arguing that. It would be great. Oh, Brian shared a file in the meeting.
[00:56:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I had to do it that way because it's a damn video, and it's like, yep. Nope. It's all photos or a file, and I had to go off and throw it up on the Google Drive and Oh, good lord, dude. Yeah. Goddamn. It was a freaking it was a freaking, it's an ordeal. I I I'm I I might have to have a cigarette now.
[00:57:04] Unknown:
Right. And and well above my competency level.
[00:57:08] Rich Chelson:
No. I just hit it. It should open.
[00:57:11] Unknown:
No. I'm try I'm saying about trying to get it where you got it.
[00:57:15] Rich Chelson:
I was like, I ain't open it. I that's beyond my ability. It's like, okay. It's just a positive donut.
[00:57:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I had yeah. I I I had saw that video and, you know, I and okay. I get these videos at night and that, you know, it was from a distance. So so it's not gonna be 4 k quality. Okay? I know this. No. It's not. But but you see, my thing is with on these other videos, I mean, 4 k cameras have been out now for over 20 years. Well, 15 at least, I'd say. 10 or 15. Either way. And they're cheap. They're dirt cheap. And they got They got cheap. Yeah. Okay. But and what I'm wondering is why do all we ever see is a 4 80 p, which is, you know, an, you know, an, you know, a 19 eighties version of a video when someone commits a crime.
I mean, where's the 4 k? Where's the 10 80 high def? You know?
[00:58:23] Rich Chelson:
Because that's a lot of storage.
[00:58:28] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. But but you see, that's the thing. When you buy a 4 k system, it comes with a hard drive that holds, like, 2 or 3 or 4 terabytes. Okay? And it just records over it. So, therefore, it's wiping off the previous videos. So why are we still seeing video in, you know, 480p or 480i, which is like the worst resolution you can get? I mean, freaking freaking reminds me of a seventies porno flick.
[00:59:05] Rich Chelson:
Hey. Hey. There's some really good those those are really good, plots in some of those.
[00:59:12] Duuude-Ron :
That's some high quality entertainment.
[00:59:16] Rich Chelson:
All of the better assist they put out these days. Yeah.
[00:59:21] Unknown:
And and especially the music.
[00:59:24] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. The funk was awesome.
[00:59:30] Duuude-Ron :
Wow wow wow
[00:59:32] Rich Chelson:
wow wow. Trying to get to. Chickamaw wow. Brown chicken brown cow.
[00:59:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's the easiest way to say it to to sound like the seventies porn music. Yep. Yep. But no. But but you see, that's the thing. Like like, when the news shows a video of, oh, you know, Gulfport Police are, you know, looking for this person of interest and, you know,
[00:59:59] Rich Chelson:
the it's fucking grained from hell. It's like, fuck. Well, you know, they're well, they're doing the whole the whole well, they're what we see the reflection of the suspect in the screw on the license plate cover of the car on the opposite side of the end of the block.
[01:00:16] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:00:17] Rich Chelson:
And so we've only got those 7 pixels to go off of. But this is what I'm saying. It's like it's like it's If it wasn't for the 4 k, we wouldn't have been able to see the screw.
[01:00:32] Duuude-Ron :
You can get the 4 k from fucking Amazon for less than a $100,
[01:00:38] Rich Chelson:
man. Yeah. Well, I know. But, again, they're having to they're getting the image of the suspect off of a reflection of a screw on the opposite side of the block. Nah. I know. Because it it So so, you know, there and and we all know the enlarge and enhance is actually bullshit. Even though they claim that now that they're actually gonna be able to do that with AI, it's bullshit.
[01:01:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It is. It is. It's just it's it's just stretching the pixels, which will which will tear the the quality of the picture up Oh, yeah. So far. Oh, yeah. You end up having this blocky mess.
[01:01:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Which is what we see. That's why I was saying, you know, eventually, all they actually are working with is showing us is, like, well, we've got this picture of the suspect. It's, it's 8 and a half pixels. Can does anybody recognize them?
[01:01:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's like, no. I need 15.
[01:01:34] Rich Chelson:
Exactly.
[01:01:35] Unknown:
15 pixels. 8a half 8a half pixels on a, on a 50 inch screen television.
[01:01:45] Duuude-Ron :
Welcome to 1980, dude. Exactly. I mean, come on now. That was that was hi fi shit back then, dude.
[01:01:56] Unknown:
I mean Oh, I know. I I still have my video recorder from oh, when the hell did I buy that? When I was over in Korea, my daughter was 2. She's 34. So 32 years ago.
[01:02:15] Duuude-Ron :
You're killing me too.
[01:02:17] Unknown:
Yeah. It's Dan Porter. 32 years old.
[01:02:22] Duuude-Ron :
That's what? 98?
[01:02:25] Rich Chelson:
No. Yeah. Yeah. It was the size of a Hugo.
[01:02:28] Duuude-Ron :
Right?
[01:02:29] Unknown:
No. Actually, it's not the you know, it's it's actually compact, but it doesn't have a, it only has the viewfinder. You have to use your eye for it. It doesn't have the the television screen like the, you know, the later versions where you could see the big, you know, the whopping 2 inch screen versus, you know, having to look through the viewfinder.
[01:02:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah, dude. That was in that was in 1993.
[01:03:03] Unknown:
That was Yeah. That was Okay. Yeah.
[01:03:06] Rich Chelson:
32 years ago from from 21. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:03:12] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, I hate to say it, but, it probably don't work anymore.
[01:03:20] Unknown:
I can guarantee you that it still works. Now it hasn't come out of the its bag in probably close to 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. It may not work at all. But, you know, my phone takes better resolution video than that thing does. Oh, man. And that thing do you know how much that damn camcorder cost me? What? 3 grand? 4? No. No. No. It was nope. 700.
[01:03:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god. That well, that was still high for those. You know? Yeah. Mhmm. But but, yeah, the, freaking batteries are probably, yeah, just corroded away, dude.
[01:04:10] Rich Chelson:
No. I don't know. I haven't opened it. I bet your dollar's donuts would just take 30 minutes to charge it, and it would work up and fire up just fine. Well, now the battery's tougher than a tougher than Nokia phone.
[01:04:22] Duuude-Ron :
Well Hey. I had a phone. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Nokia phone was the bomb back in the day, man. Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Nokia phones? Man, I couldn't kill them. And I tried. I tried to kill them bastards. I couldn't do it.
[01:04:47] Rich Chelson:
But Yeah. Dude, dude, I swear, man. You you Good grief. What is the temperature outside? Whew. I'm sitting in here and I'm 56. Good grief, man. I'm starting to sweat. I might turn the AC on. Shit. It's
[01:05:00] Duuude-Ron :
it's a say it's, 63 at my house and 72 inside.
[01:05:10] Unknown:
Well, at least it's not at least it's not 50 inside.
[01:05:14] Duuude-Ron :
Thank god.
[01:05:15] Rich Chelson:
Man, it's still like 50.
[01:05:18] Duuude-Ron :
No. I I did not. I'm saying that. I didn't say you would. I said I would I would go for 50 inside. Oh, you'd love you'd love my house when when I didn't have no heat then.
[01:05:30] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. That's that that would be our house. Our house I mean, when we had the hard cold snap here just a couple weeks ago Uh-huh. There's a couple times inside my house with that because we didn't have any, any wood was there was that morning, there was a couple times where I stepped out, and I'd look at the thermometer that we had on the table, and it was, like, 38.
[01:05:53] Duuude-Ron :
What? In the house. Yeah. In the house. Brian, you got to be careful. Your pipes will freeze, dude.
[01:06:00] Rich Chelson:
You know what? That's why we drip.
[01:06:05] Duuude-Ron :
That's why you drip. Okay. Yep. Well, no. I get you. And I I mean, I've done it before.
[01:06:10] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. We've had we are we had the pipes freeze once, and that wasn't even because, and it wasn't even, a, we had the pops freeze because we go went to, went to, Pottsville. And during the time, we had a had a cold snap go through. And we still had we had heat and stuff, but the up it actually froze in between the upstairs and the, and the downstairs. And so as we were going through the house and we were really cranking the heat up a bit, it thawed out enough that all of a sudden, it started raining in the, in the kitchen. Oh, shit. So I had to run outside, turn the meter off, and start trying to figure out. I was like, where the fuck did this shit go? Had to hunt around, try to figure out where the, where the water actually went from, went from the the line up to the upstairs bathroom and tried to figure out in relation to everything. I was like, alright. Well, where is the upstairs bathroom? And I was like, well, you if you're gonna line everything out, it's right above our the the other bathroom. So well, okay. Got an idea of where it's at, and so kind of felt kinda few extra test holes and found that, yeah, from our, from the, from the shower, that's where the, lines go up north. So we just cut them off, capped them, and never had an upstairs bathroom since.
[01:07:42] Unknown:
Okay. So what? You got cast iron pipes throughout the house?
[01:07:46] Rich Chelson:
No. No. It but it was, it was definitely, on wasn't black iron. It was it but it was, it was it was definitely metal. It wasn't copper, but it was it was the, it was definitely metal.
[01:08:02] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Wow. Well, it'd be black iron then or cast iron.
[01:08:09] Rich Chelson:
Hey. It might be. You know, I don't think it's cast iron, but it could be. I mean, it's old enough. Well, yeah. Well damn sewer's cast iron.
[01:08:17] Duuude-Ron :
I believe that. I believe that. And and if you ever if you ever get a clog in your sewer, get go to the store. If you can find it, I believe you still get it. Fire.
[01:08:32] Rich Chelson:
Yes, sir. In a red bottle. Yeah. You got a red bottle. Yeah. Shit. It's $30 for a bottle, but it it does the job.
[01:08:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But you can only use it on cast iron pipes. You can't use it on anything else.
[01:08:45] Rich Chelson:
It'll it'll eat through anything else, literally. Oh, yeah. It will keep through it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, it's it is lye. So
[01:08:53] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. And don't inhale the fumes. Just you cannot get high off the fumes.
[01:09:02] Rich Chelson:
Nope. You can you can become lungless, though.
[01:09:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. You can. Yeah. That's
[01:09:09] Rich Chelson:
that is some no bullshit stuff. No. Oh, I mean, light light activates in water. So yeah. Yeah. You and you inhale the fumes, you're inhaling the light. And what's your lungs made of? 80% water. So Right. You're gonna get chemical burns, of course.
[01:09:26] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, shit. Anhydrous is probably safer than that shit.
[01:09:29] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[01:09:31] Duuude-Ron :
You know?
[01:09:32] Rich Chelson:
Uh-huh.
[01:09:34] Duuude-Ron :
But yeah. No. We because, I when I was doing apartment maintenance, we, had to use some of that. And, I found out because, the the, the apartment houses had cast iron sewer drains. And so, yeah, we freaking poured it down the kitchen sink and then walked out. Oh, time to go. Yep. It's time to go smoke a cigarette at night.
[01:10:05] Unknown:
So Or 2 or 3.
[01:10:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, we we took a break. We took a break and and let the fumes die down, but, yeah, it freaking cleared the cloud. That's for damn sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It'll it'll eat through it all.
[01:10:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Normally, what I end up having to do is I just I've I've got a water snake that I'll shove up the, up to the the the pipe and and, turn turn the hose on. It just really sucks in the wintertime.
[01:10:38] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:10:39] Rich Chelson:
So that's when I usually will go grab some liquid fire. Like, alright. Well It's too cold. I'm just gonna dump some fire down it. Yeah. We're just gonna dump some dump some lye in there and
[01:10:53] Duuude-Ron :
Burn the shit out. Burn the shit out. Yep. You ever had to do that, dude? Nope. Okay.
[01:11:04] Unknown:
Nope. Never had to do that.
[01:11:06] Duuude-Ron :
Be glad. Be glad.
[01:11:10] Unknown:
Well, basically, by the way you guys are talking, yeah, I guess I am glad.
[01:11:16] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I I mean, it's it it is usable. It's great. But, well, I mean, in the houses that well, except well, well, Brian still lives in his house, but the house the house you live in, the house I live in can never have that stuff. So I'll never have that stuff in my house.
[01:11:37] Unknown:
Let's Yeah. Because all of ours is PVC.
[01:11:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. So so, yeah, you can't use it on that. I mean, about about the only thing it'd be good for is is, to, eradicate rodents. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna use that word, eradicate rodents.
[01:12:01] Unknown:
Man, another big $12 word.
[01:12:07] Duuude-Ron :
I don't shit. I did use 1. I wasn't even paying attention.
[01:12:15] Rich Chelson:
He's up to $24. I'll keep it. He's gonna his mouth's gonna write a check that his that he can't his brain's not gonna be able to, to afford. Yeah. Yep. Poor poor His ass can't can't gonna start glitching and going Yeah. Yeah. And then they
[01:12:35] Unknown:
then then get some, Chinese cellular.
[01:12:38] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. A little Chinese cellular. Have to start with simple words again. I'm like
[01:12:51] Duuude-Ron :
Slowly build my vocabulary back up? Precisely. Yeah. See, that's and that's the thing. I don't know where these big old fancy words are coming from. I really don't because I ain't got no one to talk, you know, that way. I just don't get it. I mean, 9 times out of 10, I'm just talking to myself.
[01:13:18] Unknown:
And the 12 voices in your head?
[01:13:21] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. Oh god. No. I we ain't gonna go with them conversations. No.
[01:13:28] Unknown:
That's And number number voice number 8 and 9 were both, got kicked out because they were too psychotic.
[01:13:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Definitely. It's like, nah. No, dude. You gotta get the fuck out, man.
[01:13:43] Unknown:
Kick right Or or bet or better yet, if you are a homeschool parent and you have a parent teacher conference and it turns in and it turns physical, man, you're having a bad fucking day.
[01:14:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Some yeah. Yeah. That's that's just yeah. That's terrible. That's just terrible bad right there. I don't care who he is. Mhmm. Yeah. No. I mean I mean, a lot of I I mean, shit, it's just me. It's just, you know, sometimes. Oh, yeah. I do I do have conversations with myself. I laugh at my own jokes and everything. Oh, no. I'm serious, dude. I get I get tickled sometimes. Some of the stuff pops up into my ear. I get tickled. Oh my god. Now I can't stop laughing for at least 2 hours.
[01:14:44] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. You need to start writing them down so we could, have, some real good conversations for this, for this podcast. You know,
[01:14:57] Duuude-Ron :
I like where you go with that. The bad thing is is is when I get tickled, I, my brain just is, I'm just laughing so much. I can't think. And then all of a sudden, poof, I blank again. It's darkness up there. It's like, hello? You know, and fucking nothing's going on up there, you know, and I'm fucking walking around in a day. And man, it's, dude, it's terrible in my head, man. You know? I I'm I'm I'm not I'm not bullshitting you. It really is. Is this like
[01:15:35] Unknown:
I wouldn't wanna be I wouldn't wanna fucking step foot in there. That's probably there's probably some really scary shit going on up there. Help a brother out, man. I just did. If I ain't gonna step foot in there, what makes you think you wanna step foot up there? Right. Right. And that's your head.
[01:16:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. It it just yeah. Some days, you know, some days are better than others. You know? And I just I just I just keep plugging away.
[01:16:13] Unknown:
Mhmm. I agree.
[01:16:17] Duuude-Ron :
But then then I go sit down at the piano, and I work on piano, man.
[01:16:24] Unknown:
Work on piano, man. Yep.
[01:16:27] Duuude-Ron :
I like that song. I always have. Well, you see, I like I like I like Billy Joel's and Elton John's music anyway. So
[01:16:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I was gonna say, you know, once you master Billy Joel and Elton John, then you can go to Liberace.
[01:16:45] Duuude-Ron :
Did I pronounce that right? Yeah. Actually, you did. Very good. I'm glad. Dude,
[01:16:52] Unknown:
my hat's off. And and play with all the freaking bling he had on his fucking fingers.
[01:16:58] Duuude-Ron :
Right. I don't think I'll do that, but, you know,
[01:17:05] Unknown:
shit. At any given time, he had, what, $5,000,000 worth of fucking jewels on his hands when he went to concert? Oh, I don't know. And that was just that was just the fucking rings. That wasn't the cape and all the other shit he fucking wore or the furs.
[01:17:25] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. The man could play piano and fucking sing. That's all I cared about. You know?
[01:17:32] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:17:33] Duuude-Ron :
I always that's why that's why I liked his music, you know, just because he was an entertainer. Yeah. He was a goofball. Looked like a goofball, but demanded it in style.
[01:17:48] Unknown:
Now I'm not He was only gayer gayer than a $3 bill. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He is. But you know what?
[01:17:56] Duuude-Ron :
He could sing. He could play.
[01:18:00] Unknown:
I never heard him sing. I saw him play, but never heard him sing. Oh, yeah. He's yeah.
[01:18:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. He could sing and play really well. And it it just yeah.
[01:18:14] Unknown:
Well, I would rather listen to Elton John and Billy Joel.
[01:18:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I I like both of them. Yeah. I'm a switch. Yeah. Yeah? Like a fool. So, Brian, since you're being so fucking quiet here in, like, the last couple months
[01:18:37] Unknown:
Got it. As usual. Yeah. Yeah. What
[01:18:40] Duuude-Ron :
what what do you have your ear to the ground about?
[01:18:46] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, like like, generally, in, like, the news world or or or or
[01:18:55] Duuude-Ron :
or what? Whatever makes me cry and happy.
[01:18:59] Rich Chelson:
You pick it. I mean, there's there's all sorts of things, I mean, going on because
[01:19:04] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you ain't said nothing in a couple months, really, dude. So I've said a lot in the last couple months. You said a few things. Come on now. Now so so so what is pleasing to Brian?
[01:19:19] Rich Chelson:
Pleasing? Well
[01:19:22] Duuude-Ron :
Jeez. That was a loaded question. There there is there is I mean, there that
[01:19:28] Unknown:
Well, I'm hoping you can't get any more loaded than that. I mean, I I'm I'm digging
[01:19:33] Rich Chelson:
I'm digging the, the the aspects of what, of what Trump's doing. I'm I'm I'm kinda I'm kinda digging some of the, the stuff. Oh, there's something that, I came across here recently. And you being see all these that you are, you might wanna know. There's a, there are a couple programs out created by the, University of Chicago Mhmm. That are, so that they protect, artists from from having their their artwork consumed by AI.
[01:20:20] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. And I've I've heard They're they're
[01:20:22] Rich Chelson:
they're basically I a AI poisoning programs.
[01:20:27] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. How so?
[01:20:29] Rich Chelson:
Well, like, say you've got a couple like, you take one of your pictures, and you run it through I think the, well, it's called, Glaze.
[01:20:40] Duuude-Ron :
Glaze?
[01:20:41] Rich Chelson:
Glaze. And it's like g l you know, like windowpane glaze. Golf Lima alpha. Okay. Yeah. Golf Lima alpha Or donor glaze. Zebra echo. Yeah. Zulu echo. Zulu. Yeah. Zebra. Zulu. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Zulu. Anyhow
[01:20:59] Duuude-Ron :
Can't help it, man. Go ahead. Sorry. Nope. Smack me later.
[01:21:04] Rich Chelson:
We will. Generative a here's what it says on their on their site. Generative AI models have changed the way that we create and consume content, particularly images and art. Diffusion, models such as midjourney, stable diffusion have may have been trained on large datasets of scraped images from online, many of which are copyrighted, private, or sensitive in subject material. Many artists have discovered that significant numbers of their art pieces in the training data, such as Lion 5 b, without their knowledge, consent, credit, and or, compensation.
And to make it worse, so many of these models are now used to copy individual, artist styles and through a process called style mimicry. And so home users can take art, artwork from human artists, perform fine tuning or lure on models like stable diffusion and end up with a model that, is capable of producing an arbitrary image in the style of the targeted artist. And so what they've done is they actually put some code into the picture. Okay. And what happens is when the AI comes through, it's not it picks up that code, it fucks the image up on them.
Okay. And so when they try to use, you know, like, recreate an image, in Annie Leibowitz, style of photography of a giraffe in a baby bottle. Alright? It would go through, and it would not be able to do that. You have actually poisoned the the bottle now.
[01:22:50] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:22:51] Rich Chelson:
So you have that. And then you have nightshade, which is a, let's see here.
[01:23:03] Duuude-Ron :
Just That was that was the bomb on
[01:23:06] Unknown:
RED 2. Yeah. The movie RED 2, Nightshade?
[01:23:14] Rich Chelson:
And, I'll just sit here. Sean, named the MIT Technology Review, and I'm gonna open here new Mac updates to the fixed GPUs. So see. What is nightshade and how does it work? There we go. Since our arrival, to to to, in an effort to address the power of asymmetry, we have, okay. There we go. Online content from model training. Content owners, few, tools can prevent their content from being fed into a generative AI model at their will. Opt out lists have been, disregarded by model trainers in the past. It could easily be ignored by 0 with 0 consequences. They are unverified, enforce unenforceable, and those, who violate opt out lists do not scrape, and do not scrape directives cannot be identified with high confidence.
In an effort to address the power, asymmetry, we have designed and implemented Nightshade, a tool that turns any image, into a data sample that is unsuitable for model training. So Glaze okay. So Glaze uses nightshade to poison the pictures, is what it is.
[01:24:27] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:24:28] Rich Chelson:
So but anyhow, it just it helps to ensure that, that if you're a if you're an artist, you're actually getting your pictures protected. You can copyright them all you want, but when an AI scrapes them, scrapes them and stuff, there there's not really any recourse that you have from it.
[01:24:54] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right.
[01:24:55] Rich Chelson:
And so this is a way of making sure they you know, somebody comes by and says, oh, nah. Screw it. They say don't scrape. We're gonna scrape it anyhow because we need the images. And so they scrape it. Well, they're gonna get a whole bunch of of trash, and it's gonna ruin their model, which is good. Yeah. Because, you know, AI is is a really interesting, I mean, it's it's a good brainstorming tool.
[01:25:24] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:25:25] Rich Chelson:
But, again, people being people, they are using it to to to try to go for a quick buck. Yeah. And so they put out a whole bunch of just AI slot.
[01:25:43] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Yeah. No. I I've got I've got the page up. I can look up into it, you know, in more detail and stuff. Because I I mean, you know, you say that's the thing, and I I don't know. Say this is where I'm kinda I mean, I understand what you're saying about, you know, the artists and all like that. But then again, at the same time, it's like, what does it really matter? And maybe that's where that's where the disconnect for me is because I'm not understanding what the big deal is. You know what I mean? Maybe. Now? Maybe. Okay. Okay. Well, that's, you say okay. Look. Let's say let's say I take a photograph.
Okay? It's it's my photograph and and all the photographs I take are baked with, embedded with my information on them automatically. Right. Right? Right. K. So let's say I throw that up on the Internet. Okay. And let's say AI grabs it. Okay. What why should it matter?
[01:27:04] Rich Chelson:
Well okay. Say you're selling a picture of a green Jeep with green lights in for $800. Okay. Was keeping somebody who uses something that does mimicry style of, of of AI regeneration from going off, going, make me a a green jeep with green lights in the style of Richard Chelsea.
[01:27:41] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So
[01:27:44] Rich Chelson:
and so it just coughs 1 up. And guess what? You don't get recognized as the the creator of that particular picture. You also don't get, get to, sue because that is a AI created image, though it's very, very, very similar to yours. You can tell. It's like, oh, hey. They took elements of my Jeep and the colors.
[01:28:17] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:28:18] Rich Chelson:
And they're really close. You could tell they copied it. You have no you have no means of of receiving payment for a violated copyright.
[01:28:32] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But but there again, it is it, if you look under the the Fair Use Act or the CC commons, attributions
[01:28:45] Rich Chelson:
okay. If you're using Creative Commons attribution
[01:28:48] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. No. Yeah. Right. But but but even even if you copyright now okay. This is what I'm asking now. I mean, honestly, if okay. Let's say someone did that to me. How am I ever gonna know that? I mean, I mean, will I see it in my bottom line? Is, is someone gonna call me and tell me or or what? You know? I mean, honestly, in, in the worldwide web, how am I ever gonna know that my picture was copied? And so I was making money on it. Different ways that you can do that.
[01:29:26] Rich Chelson:
You could take a copy of your picture. So let's see here. Yes, sir. You could go into, what is it? I think it's called 10 I.
[01:29:39] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:29:40] Unknown:
See if
[01:29:44] Rich Chelson:
see on see if that's the right one. Tineye.com.
[01:29:52] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, I guess I guess I guess Yeah. I tini is a reverse image search.
[01:29:58] Rich Chelson:
Okay. And so you can upload your image, and you can see who else has got this image on their site. And it just it basically it works for on their site. So Okay. So and I've had I've had one person who has hit my site going, hey. Better take the damn shit down because I'm or I or you could start paying me a $1,000 a day, for a for a piece of clip art. I was like, whatever, dude. I take you down. I'll make sure to make sure to mention you exactly that, you like to try to copyright claim, clip art. So have a good day.
[01:30:37] Duuude-Ron :
But but see, that's the thing. That's you see, that's where you see, that's you see, if you made $10,000,000 a year or $2,000,000 a year off off of your photographs or paintings or whatever, okay, I could see
[01:30:57] Rich Chelson:
something about that. Yeah. But if you made $800 off of a picture?
[01:31:02] Duuude-Ron :
Well, the That's $800
[01:31:04] Rich Chelson:
that all of a sudden oh, well, you know, it's not there. It's it it's not the same picture. It's you know And fair use is a defense. No. Fair use is No. It is a defense.
[01:31:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, it is kind of, yeah, a defense, but you can actually legally fight with it. It's a weak fight, but you can fight with it.
[01:31:29] Rich Chelson:
As as You can also see the defense is that I'm I'm blind. I didn't know what I was seeing. I mean, you can make up any defense, but, yeah, fair use is nothing more than a legal defense. It's like, well and that's what you have to do. You have to then turn around and have to try to prove that it is fair use.
[01:31:50] Duuude-Ron :
Or or well, you see, the thing is, though, 9 times out of 10, the person who who, committed the offense doesn't have to prove anything. It's you that is that is making the claim that they stole your picture. Yeah. And if they don't, if they're not able to prove
[01:32:08] Rich Chelson:
that it's fair use, then guess what they have to pay you?
[01:32:13] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I I understand. But, yeah, you see, that's the thing, though. I you see, that's where that's where I've never, I mean, I've thought about it. Yes. But at the same time, I don't really think about it because it's like, really? What am I gonna be missing out on? $800? Yeah. But that's money. Right. You know, like what Josh said, you know, money doesn't buy happiness. It just it just pays the bills.
[01:32:51] Rich Chelson:
I I Show me somebody show me somebody who who money does not money when they say money does not buy happiness, show me somebody who doesn't smile when they have some money. If they're broke and they come into some money, they're smiling. Now how you utilize that money is a completely different animal. Right. But because but, yes, money is a tool, and it's not actually what makes you happy because, obviously, you're the thought is what makes you happy.
[01:33:28] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But but you see there again now, you see, that's the thing. I know people that are have known people that have had no money and they were fucking ecstatic. They were happier and shit. Oh, yeah. And I've known people who are richer
[01:33:43] Rich Chelson:
and richer than God and, and miserable as hell. Yeah. But I've also met people who are richer than God and happiest, happy as a lark and people who are poor, who have been miserable.
[01:33:58] Duuude-Ron :
So have I, but you see, you've got some mindset.
[01:34:01] Rich Chelson:
So the money is just that person's emotions.
[01:34:04] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. It's no. No. It's not the money. It's your mindset.
[01:34:08] Rich Chelson:
Right. So get that going back to your mindset. If you're doing the work and this is your work that we're talking about, then you wanna protect it. If not, then go ahead and open your door up and just let any Tom, Dick, or Harry come through your house because your work is your property.
[01:34:30] Duuude-Ron :
Well, no. I get that. I understand that. So if you wanna sell your property,
[01:34:36] Rich Chelson:
that's cool, but don't let somebody come by and go, you know what? I'm gonna go ahead and, come in just come into your house. I'm gonna take a really good copy, of your, of your of your of your radio setup and and and utilize it. It's like, well, no, you can't just walk into my house. You can't just walk onto my website and help yourself to one of my images. You can look at them all you want, but you can't just help yourself to one of my images and say, hey. Yeah. I'm gonna use this for a later date. I'm let me let me copy this down real quick. I'm just gonna you know, we're not actually going to post it up on anywhere, but we've got a we've got a, a program that's gonna actually take the aspects of what makes your picture so cool and let other people use it.
It's like, no. That's my soul that you're you're trying to digitize. And that's one reason why AI stuff, when it comes to trying to create a, a, whether it's a video, a picture, a blog post or whatever AI crap is crap. It is AI slop. And what makes it AI slop? The fact that there is not a soul in that, in that work. It is soulless. And that's why I'm, you know, like I said, I like AI when it comes to brainstorming stuff. I mean, hell I've got thanks to, thanks to, to Claude. I've gone through, I've got an idea for a, for a book that I'm fixing to start trying to write.
[01:36:26] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Okay. On end, that's good. And so Let me ask you this. Go ahead. Let me ask let me ask you this. Okay? Now you might do this. And and if you do do this, you you're about the only one that I currently know that does this. Okay? And I could be wrong. I could be totally way off base here. Alright? But out of everybody we know, who do we know that looks at a picture and sees the soul of the picture?
[01:37:01] Rich Chelson:
Anybody that looks at it and goes, wow.
[01:37:05] Duuude-Ron :
That's amazing.
[01:37:08] Rich Chelson:
And if they store if they walk by and it stops them, that's the soul.
[01:37:14] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Well, like like the one I just hung on my wall today. Yeah.
[01:37:18] Rich Chelson:
Because that You like that because of the soul of that picture. Right. That artist put his soul into that picture, and you saw it. Right. And you went, wow. That was amazing. I want that.
[01:37:33] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. I can I can see that then? I, you know, I I can see it to a point. I can see it a whole lot better than I could before we started this conversation. So thank you. I appreciate that.
[01:37:45] Rich Chelson:
Well, when it comes to I'm I'm I'm all over the damn place when it comes to comes to property and you getting what getting the value of what you've put into the world.
[01:37:59] Duuude-Ron :
But see, that's see with me anymore. It's like, you know what? Just fucking take the shit. I'll still be happy.
[01:38:05] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, and I and I get that. Yeah. And there's there's nothing wrong with with doing that, but you're if you're doing it at a sacrifice, then you're then you're in the wrong. If you're doing it just to, you know and it's not it's not affecting you in any way, then that's when it's okay. That's when you have no problem at all. But you have to be able to have that choice.
[01:38:40] Duuude-Ron :
Okay.
[01:38:41] Rich Chelson:
If if some if an AI bot is just coming by and taking everything out from underneath your nose without you going, yeah, you can utilize let me upload these pictures to your repository so you can actually utilize them. Then okay. I wouldn't have a com have a complaint. Of course, you wouldn't have a complaint either if somewhere down the road, you're, like, going, they're copying all my images. It's like, well, yeah, you gave them all your images. So, yeah, they're gonna copy them. Mhmm. You can't you can't cry after the fact.
[01:39:15] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:39:16] Rich Chelson:
But if you're if you're a I'm not saying you're not a serious photographer, but if you're a serious photographer, I don't know many photographers who just go with their best stuff and go, yeah. Yeah. Just take it. I mean, even when you go to places like Unsplash and you go to or or, or Pexels or Pixabay. Right. Those aren't their best pictures. Those are pretty good pictures. Those are alright pictures. You go to Unsplash now and you can get there. Hey. These are really good pictures hidden behind the Unsplash plus subscription model.
You have to you have to buy a subscription model, and then you can download this the the plus stuff, which is the even better.
[01:40:10] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[01:40:13] Rich Chelson:
But but to, their their best stuff, I can guarantee you, unless they are just not understanding their value or they're just now starting, they're like, oh, I'll just take, you know, 2,000 shots and I'll upload them all and someone will probably find something to like and I'll get out there. You know, my name will start circulating around a bit, which is what p that's what, photographers normally do. They just that's why they do that is to get their name out there so people when they somebody types up a Richard Chelsea, and they'll say, oh, hey. Look. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've seen that picture a couple times on a couple other websites. I've always liked that one picture. You know? Right. Right. Yeah. You see this? I've I've never been one.
[01:40:59] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, yeah, I did think back years ago. Thought about, you know, I don't know. You know, I was I that's why that's why I watermarked a lot of my pictures in the early days. You know? And anymore, I'm like, I just bake it into the image itself. And, you know, I mean because I I've tried to submit to stock stock photography and shit like that, and those fuckers don't even wanna touch it because they're like, oh, this part of the sky is just blown out a little too much and this and that. Oh, yeah. They're yeah. They're I I'm like I'm like, y'all you know what? Blow it at your own ass. I'm done. You know? Yeah. They it was like
[01:41:51] Rich Chelson:
Well, you need to burn you need to burn in this little this portion of the, picture just a little bit and dodge out, at this side. And it's like I'm like, no. No. I ain't That is your that is your view. That's not my view. So you have a good answer.
[01:42:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's and so that's why that's why I take my pictures or, you know, like like the start I'm doing. I don't care who who else fucking does it. Guess what? I have fun with it, so I don't care. And if you wanna copy it, fucking copy it because you're not gonna get it exactly like that.
[01:42:26] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:42:27] Duuude-Ron :
You know? And you see, the thing is for me, it's not always the finished product. It's still fucking journey.
[01:42:34] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:42:35] Duuude-Ron :
You know? That's what does it for me. I'm just And and
[01:42:40] Unknown:
What's that? And in the whole great big scheme of it all, you can't take it fucking with you.
[01:42:48] Duuude-Ron :
That's right. That's right. So and when you're gone, they're gonna take that $800 picture and sell it.
[01:43:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Somebody will.
[01:43:03] Rich Chelson:
Well but, again, that would that is a almost like the, like the, well, oh, hell, where was that? A lady, I think, here in the US. I still have it up. I guess not.
[01:43:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I just I I've got I've got a weird view of things anymore. Well, it's well, it's well, it's been like this for 10, 15 years. Right. You know? Because no, seriously, because I've had so many people throughout my life, and I'm not I'm not whining about it. Okay? Do not get me wrong when I say this. I'm not whining about it at one bit. I used to, but I don't anymore. But I have had so many people steal, take, copy, and do the same shit that I'm doing. I just gave up. Fuck y'all. I'm gonna do me, and y'all wanna do it? Take the glory. I give you the glory.
I give you the glory. Take it. And I hope you swallow on it. You know? Hope you choke on it.
[01:44:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Exactly. Hope the hell it tastes good when it tries to choke down.
[01:44:38] Duuude-Ron :
But see, and that's why, that's why I don't, I don't try and search for the fucking spotlight because there's always another motherfucker right behind you trying to push you out the way to step in front of the mic because God forbid if you get ahead before they do. Yeah. No way. Man. I step out the way, give you the microphone here. Have at it. I don't give a fuck, and I don't. That's the thing. I don't. So that's why that's why it's I guess it's hard for me to,
[01:45:13] Rich Chelson:
you know, realize this. Right. Well, what I was looking up, was I saw this actually earlier today was that, a a person over in, Minnesota wound up going to a garage sale Uh-huh. And bought a picture for $50.
[01:45:34] Duuude-Ron :
K.
[01:45:36] Rich Chelson:
And as he got to looking at as this guy got to looking at, I think he's a guy, got to look at it, he's like going, you know, that looks a bit familiar on those brushstrokes. So he went and had it, had some, some folks look at it. It was a missing Van Gogh.
[01:45:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my gosh. $15,000,000.
[01:45:59] Rich Chelson:
Wow. So see, there's the, you know, if, again, there there's an example of, Okay. Not knowing the worth of what you got. So it's $15,000,000 Of course, I bet you that family that sold that garage sale is gone. Fuck.
[01:46:16] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But, but you see, that's the thing you see, that's where that's where it's it was it was up to that family who had it before. They didn't do their research. They just thought it was a nice picture, and they it it gave them pleasure for however long. And then the wife probably looked at it one day and says, oh, it clashes with the furniture. We gotta get it out of here. And so
[01:46:41] Unknown:
it's gone. Now here now here's the question. He bought that painting for $50.
[01:46:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:46:50] Unknown:
Found out it's worth $15,000,000. Would you sell it or would you hang it on your wall?
[01:46:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, no. He turned around and sold it to Egg.
[01:47:00] Unknown:
Had, had Not him. Southern's beef or whatever. Self insured. Not him.
[01:47:06] Rich Chelson:
You. Oh, okay. I don't know. It depends on how badly I really needed that money at the moment. There's a good chance it might just sit on the wall just so I can just say, hey. I got a Van Gogh, you know, just for bragging rights for a while until someone some collector come by and goes, oh, I know, they were offering, 15 for you, but I'd like to buy that off of 35. Be like,
[01:47:42] Duuude-Ron :
well,
[01:47:43] Rich Chelson:
you know, I might have to kinda him and all about it depending on how much of an asshole I feel. So
[01:47:49] Unknown:
Yep. Me, personally, I would do the same thing that that other guy did. Okay? It's sunrise.
[01:47:56] Rich Chelson:
It's a bango. It is a bango. Bango. Southern Beast. Sell it for me. $15,000,000?
[01:48:03] Unknown:
Hell, yeah. Well, say it with me. Because I'm not I'm not in my mindset is not in the art world. Yeah. Okay. I've seen pictures of the Mona Lisa. It doesn't excite me. I've seen other pictures of famous artists.
[01:48:23] Rich Chelson:
It does not excite me. You probably like Lady Liberty though, don't you? She's got a booby hanging out.
[01:48:32] Unknown:
I'll have to look that one up.
[01:48:35] Duuude-Ron :
I
[01:48:38] Unknown:
do. Put it in the put it in the chat. Find it and put it in the chat because I have no idea what you're talking about. So
[01:48:47] Rich Chelson:
No. There's a French revolution painting.
[01:48:52] Duuude-Ron :
No. See what Yeah. Liberty eating the people is what it's called. Yeah. It would it would it would depend, you know, 1, because I've never had a Van Gogh, a real Van Gogh or even even a fake one. But it it would it would depend on the picture itself. If it if if I liked it, I'd probably hang it on my wall and keep it there forever.
[01:49:18] Unknown:
You know? Even even knowing that it's worth $15,000,000?
[01:49:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[01:49:24] Unknown:
Okay. And see, here here's another aspect of Ron that I would sell that Van Gogh and I would buy 2 Thomas Kinkades. Okay. Well, you could buy more Thomas Kinkades, but, you know No. Because I I only want 2. I only want 2 because I need Jeep parts.
[01:49:48] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But yeah. No. You see that you see, that's the thing. You see you see, the thing is money doesn't drive me. It it honestly doesn't. Yes. It is nice to have. The, money I do have is, is fine with me. So yeah. If I have something worth some money, you know, if, if, if I liked that object, then I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna enjoy it until I don't enjoy it no more, then I'll sell it, you know, and, oh, God, you know, what am I gonna do? It dropped down to 5,000,000. I'm broke. No. I'm not. You know? I mean, yeah, it's not 15, but 5 will still buy Jeep parts.
I might not be able to afford the Thomas Kinkades, but, you know, I can buy Jeep parts.
[01:50:40] Unknown:
Well, yeah. That's true. See? So
[01:50:44] Duuude-Ron :
but that's me. See, I'm weird like this, and I've always been this way for a long time. I've always been weird. I don't I don't place a lot of monetary value on things because I've had I've lost shit. I've I've had it stolen or whatever, or just ripped from me for whatever reason. So it's like, I don't care. I have what I have. If I lose it, I'll be bombed. Yeah. But I'll rebuild. So I'm good. But I'm weird. I know. I wear my pork pie because I'm weird.
[01:51:25] Unknown:
You wear your what?
[01:51:29] Duuude-Ron :
My pork pie.
[01:51:31] Rich Chelson:
Pork pie hat.
[01:51:33] Duuude-Ron :
My pork pie hat, dude. Oh, I Okay. Sorry. I showed you the hat
[01:51:39] Unknown:
when I got it. I know. I forgot what the hell the name was. Excuse the fuck out of me.
[01:51:47] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you are Geez. Excused.
[01:51:50] Unknown:
Damn. But yeah. No. I just I like mine as well.
[01:51:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yours is cool. It's just I don't have the face for your your hat. Your your crown's too tall. My face is too short and wide. It is true. Serious. I would look weird in your head.
[01:52:16] Unknown:
Oh, so what are you trying to say is the tall, low key person's type hat?
[01:52:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Actually, that is correct. Your, your face structure that hat wears wears well on you. And that, that is a given fact. And this is why you have your short crown hats and your tall crown hats is for the different face structures. And once you learn them, it it makes sense, and it's true. Because you have a long squared face, squared off face and a taller crowned hat completes that whole look. You know, you, you could also go to a short crown hat Depending on the style of hat, it might look weird. It might not. But you would do better with your face structure, would do better with, the tall crown hat.
Whereas my face is short and fat.
[01:53:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, you know, my next hat, if I ever decide to do another hat, is gonna be a short top hat.
[01:53:39] Duuude-Ron :
You can pull that off. With a bow tie? Fuck. Dude. Dude. There you go. A short a short top hat with a bow tie? Oh, fuck. Yeah. Dude, crank it, man.
[01:53:56] Unknown:
But, you know, the bow tie doesn't go very well with t shirts. Yeah. They do. Because I don't have no collared shirts.
[01:54:05] Rich Chelson:
They they do too. Go fine with with T shirt. Haven't you ever seen that T shirt that's got the bow tie and the tux ruffles on it?
[01:54:13] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yes. I have that t shirt. That's my yeah. That's that's my Halloween costume T shirt. Yes. Yeah. I have one of those. Hey. See? It goes goes quite nicely on a T shirt. You could be all that. Tie off, dude. I don't know about that one. You remember those square knit ties that they had in the eighties?
[01:54:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[01:54:41] Unknown:
Love those ties. I had a gray one and a pink one. Those are some cool ties. I wish they'd bring those back.
[01:54:56] Duuude-Ron :
If you say so. I didn't like them too well.
[01:55:01] Unknown:
Oh, I love those ties. They need to bring back, ocean Pacific corduroy shorts too.
[01:55:11] Duuude-Ron :
Damn it.
[01:55:13] Unknown:
Now those would look great with my Crocs. And the Crocs that I sent you guys the picture of for, the Tonka toy having the, oh, what was it? The backhoe and the tracks?
[01:55:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:55:39] Unknown:
There you go. I'll I'll get those for my Crocs as well. And wear my short top hat, my corduroy shorts, and my bow tied t shirt.
[01:55:54] Duuude-Ron :
Which are lime green Crocs.
[01:55:57] Unknown:
Damn Skippy.
[01:56:00] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god, dude.
[01:56:02] Unknown:
Wouldn't that just fucking look horrifying?
[01:56:06] Duuude-Ron :
Dude, I'm gonna have nightmares, man.
[01:56:11] Unknown:
Oh, yes. But, you know what? That the hat that I got goes well with Crocs.
[01:56:22] Duuude-Ron :
If you say so.
[01:56:24] Unknown:
I say so.
[01:56:28] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, that's what?
[01:56:29] Unknown:
I'm even gonna find out what size shoe you wear, and we'll get you a pair of Crocs.
[01:56:35] Duuude-Ron :
That's okay. I'm dude.
[01:56:39] Unknown:
I bet you if you put a pair on, you'd be fucking man, these motherfuckers are comfortable. I like Crocs.
[01:56:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I I dude, I don't know about all that. I I just I I just can't I just have a hard time with it's just weird. They're just weird. You know? The at least they are to me. Now, hey, dudes. We shit. We can talk about hey, dudes all you want. But me and Crocs, I just I've never been able to cross that line.
[01:57:19] Unknown:
Well, I don't have Hey Dudes, and it's only because I can't fucking afford them.
[01:57:29] Duuude-Ron :
I'm telling you what? Your fate would you think Crocs is like walking on clouds? Dude, hey, dudes is even better.
[01:57:41] Unknown:
I don't know.
[01:57:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I don't know. Well, if if if anyone is listening and later on because,
[01:57:54] Unknown:
we've been getting And has a pair of both and has a pair of each? Because you don't have Crocs. I don't have Hey Dudes. And we're arguing something of apples to oranges in our own opinions because we don't have a pair of the other type of shoe. But you're right. If somebody out there has that Crocs and Hey Dudes, let me know. Which one are more comfortable?
[01:58:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yes, please. I we would like to know. We would like someone to help us determine what is the top.
[01:58:32] Unknown:
And I know what the top would be. Crocs.
[01:58:35] Duuude-Ron :
Hey, dudes.
[01:58:37] Unknown:
I don't fucking think so.
[01:58:39] Duuude-Ron :
I fucking think so.
[01:58:42] Unknown:
I think so. But you know what? We could argue that point all day long until the cows come home.
[01:58:50] Duuude-Ron :
And I'd still would get lost and you'd still lose.
[01:58:56] Unknown:
I heard that. Still lose. That is correct. You would still lose. I would win. You would still lose.
[01:59:01] Duuude-Ron :
Nice try, dude. Nice try. Yeah. No. It's I I don't know. I mean I mean, Breezy loves them, but I just I just can't bring myself to wear them. You know? Right. It just I mean, they're plastic. Plastic shoes.
[01:59:29] Unknown:
No. They're rubber. Rubber? Well, they're just state. You're pretty much same shit, different day. I don't know what the hell. I don't know what the hell they make Crocs out of.
[01:59:46] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know what? Let me see. Let's find out. Go look it up. What are Crocs made from? A proprietary foam resin
[02:00:03] Rich Chelson:
that's exclusive. Foam rubber? Yeah. Some type of foam rubber.
[02:00:07] Duuude-Ron :
Crosslight is a closed cell resin that's lightweight, comfortable, and odor resistant. So they don't soak up your feet stink. They just let it air out because there's so many fucking holes in it.
[02:00:21] Unknown:
It's a polymer compound. And what was and then what was the word before that? Comfortable.
[02:00:28] Duuude-Ron :
Well, hay dudes are even more comfortable, dude.
[02:00:36] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
So now it says But we have your cross light. We Hang on. I'm I'm I'm trying to help you here for a second, dude. Hold on, man. It says cross light, which is what Crocs are made out of, is nontoxic, antimicrobial, and resist fungal and bacterial growth. So for all of you out there wearing Crocs that have gnarly fucking toes and feet like me, it will it will it will retard and not cause any further degradation. God, I gotta stop this shit.
[02:01:21] Rich Chelson:
So you just fucking fucking work.
[02:01:24] Unknown:
You just fucking blew your whole goddamn point out of the fucking water.
[02:01:29] Duuude-Ron :
No. I didn't.
[02:01:31] Unknown:
Yet you just did.
[02:01:33] Duuude-Ron :
Hey, dudes are the fucking bomb. Hey, dudes is where it's at. Now since since we did that, goddamn, we squirrel hard with her.
[02:01:49] Unknown:
Oh, hell yeah. We squirrel.
[02:01:52] Duuude-Ron :
And, I mean, we started out with Brian, though.
[02:01:55] Unknown:
Yeah. And now he's not talking anymore. Right?
[02:01:59] Duuude-Ron :
I it's like it's like, damn. You know? It took a minute for for for, all that to catch up in my head.
[02:02:07] Unknown:
Okay. See. And now and now we push it back over to Brian who wears flip flops.
[02:02:14] Rich Chelson:
From time to time, yeah. I will will wear a flip flop. I'll wear some river shoes if, if I'm at, at the river. And, most of the time, yeah, 10 runners.
[02:02:30] Duuude-Ron :
Now okay. Hang on here. Hey dudes. This is what Hey dudes are made of. Okay? They are made of a variety of materials, including recycled and natural materials like cork, plastic, leather, suede. They also use vegan friendly materials.
[02:02:52] Unknown:
So, oh. Friendly.
[02:02:55] Duuude-Ron :
Vegan friendly. So so they are they are really kinda trying to, I don't know. Hey, dudes are are are in crocs or like neck and neck right at the, you know, they're close.
[02:03:14] Unknown:
How how can how can it even relate to vegan friendly?
[02:03:24] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know, dude. I hate to use those glasses.
[02:03:28] Unknown:
Vegans now have specific clothes preferences?
[02:03:34] Rich Chelson:
Oh, hell, yeah. Yeah. No. They won't use anything that's got any leather in it. They got tired of everybody making fun of you know, it was like, I'm you're you're just you're just raising cows to to eat, and people would be looking at their, at their shoes going, well, where's where's your cow reside now? South of France or something? So, yeah, they got tired of that, and so they started making demands that you have to make their, their clothes were free all all animals and cruelty free. So you know?
[02:04:06] Duuude-Ron :
Or or plant based, like, hemp shirts, hemp clothes. That's why they
[02:04:11] Rich Chelson:
ought to be able to wear titties, man. They ought to bring back titties.
[02:04:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I Yeah. And, and UGGs too. Right?
[02:04:22] Rich Chelson:
Oh god. No. No.
[02:04:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I saw I saw I saw it. Well, it it was funny last week when, you had talked about titties because, Tammy had texted me when he was talking. And, and, Tammy said, yeah. I've got a pair of those.
[02:04:46] Rich Chelson:
I don't I don't think she was meanin' the shoes. I'm just, I Well, they suppose Well, I guess the, the couple because for a long time, titties were stopped being made. People didn't make them anymore because they were, because the couple that actually created the the the shoe got a divorce. 1 got the product, be able to sell the product. The other got the name.
[02:05:13] Duuude-Ron :
Oh.
[02:05:14] Rich Chelson:
How's that gonna work? Well, I mean, he he tried to do some other things. I think he tried caught tried calling them knockers for a while or something like that. It was just kinda you know, didn't work the same. Right. And I guess, apparently, they, they have reconciled, and you could actually buy titties again. They're, like, 30, they're, so you got some that are $32, $53. I mean, they kinda they kinda range.
[02:05:47] Duuude-Ron :
No.
[02:05:49] Rich Chelson:
Ain't no. I ain't doing Titties. Titties shacks. Yeah. There you go.
[02:05:54] Unknown:
I ain't doing no titties.
[02:05:57] Rich Chelson:
No. No. They're cool.
[02:06:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I'd I yeah. I I saw a picture of them. I would not be caught dead, let alone Oh, with with with hot pink surgical tubing straps around your feet? No. I think I'm good.
[02:06:15] Rich Chelson:
Oh, come on. Well, if you don't like hot pink, I'm sure you can find a different color.
[02:06:23] Duuude-Ron :
Right. I probably could.
[02:06:25] Rich Chelson:
Oh my goodness. Biggest set of titties measuring at a whopping inch and a quarter, foam sole. I mean, they call them the big knockers. Yeah. The the tensiest, titties they have are also called the chichis. The what? The chitchis. That's that's Mexican for titties.
[02:06:48] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, lord. Yes. See, no. I I just I couldn't do it.
[02:06:53] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. The titty version of the flip flop is called the, is called the tatas. Wow. Stuff for the kids is called the itty bitties.
[02:07:04] Duuude-Ron :
The itty bitty. Oh, shoot.
[02:07:10] Unknown:
That is odd. And you and you don't have do you know how many style names Crocs has?
[02:07:16] Rich Chelson:
None. Oh, no. No. Correction. They do. They have one. It's called ugly.
[02:07:23] Duuude-Ron :
And and you see that's the thing, though. You see, this is what this is what bothers me because does not have they don't they don't have the forward thinking to to expand their their their base.
[02:07:45] Rich Chelson:
They can't because then it would not look like the same. I mean, what are they gonna do? Make make, Croc boots where, you know, it's got a little bit of that for the heel, but but you've got, but you, you know, you got a little little tube that you stick your foot through before you put it in the in the, shoe?
[02:08:03] Unknown:
Believe it or not, they do have Croc boots. Why does it not make it surprise me? They yeah. It just came out not too long. I think within the last year, they started making Croc boots. Now would I own a pair of Croc boots? No. I am a Crocs shoe type person, and they don't need to have any other names other than Crocs because well, because they're Crocs, which and they're a good foot product for, where a lot of people wear them in the medical field.
[02:08:44] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah, I could say that. I mean, you know? I could see that.
[02:08:56] Unknown:
Because they don't absorb any, you know, blood and bloodborne pathogens. You know? It can be cleaned off.
[02:09:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:09:06] Unknown:
Where, like, tennis shoe if you get blood on them, you ain't get out.
[02:09:13] Duuude-Ron :
So Yeah. That's no. No. I'm I'm I'm looking at, yeah, pair of, actually, winter gear. They're 4999, Croc boots, and they're insulated black winter boots, and they're Crocs. Yep. Yeah. Well, I'm good. See? Yeah. Oh, they have men's boots too.
[02:09:46] Rich Chelson:
49.99.
[02:09:49] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. Wait. No. 80 to a $120.
[02:09:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I was gonna say because the regular are right around $50.
[02:10:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. See? I can't yeah. No. I'm good.
[02:10:08] Unknown:
Yeah. See, that's just That's just because you're not open minded. That's just it.
[02:10:15] Duuude-Ron :
Well, you know, I I can't really argue that point because you're right. Some things I I am closed minded on. I am not gonna lie. But, yeah, I just can't. Good god. They got In Motion Crocs, Cozy Collection Crocs, Over Puff Crocs, Dylan Crocs, classics, men's fuzz. I mean, got it. No. I'm good. Echo collection, gibbet charms. Yeah. No. This is just rude. I mean yeah. Wow. Yeah. No. No. X off. X off. X off. Okay. X off. X off. I can't look at no more crocs.
[02:11:09] Unknown:
Oh,
[02:11:12] Duuude-Ron :
that hurt. That hurt. So, Brian, what else you got?
[02:11:19] Rich Chelson:
Well, what else do we got? Oh, let's see here. We have got oh.
[02:11:25] Unknown:
Something that's not so technical.
[02:11:28] Rich Chelson:
Nah. Nah. Nah.
[02:11:30] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It is it is getting late. So so, yeah, my use of big words is like yeah. Getting a little thin. Oh, it's, yeah, it's way thin. I've used, what, 5 big words tonight?
[02:11:44] Rich Chelson:
Used a couple. Yeah.
[02:11:48] Unknown:
I know at least 3.
[02:11:49] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I just used one. I can't remember what it was. Oh, degradation. Degraded. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that was that was either number 3 or number 4. I don't know. I can't remember. But my brain is at parast now. My brain freaking hurts. So
[02:12:12] Rich Chelson:
so but, I mean, I'll you know, what else is happening in the world here? Gonna have to pull up everybody's favorite news, news organization. Well, actually, hold up. Let me pull up Oh, what? TikTok? Pull up my sheets first. Get to see what, what we have listed in there. I've done a few things in there from time to time. See here.
[02:12:37] Duuude-Ron :
I've seen stuff here and there. I just I just forget to write it down, and the stuff I do write down is is,
[02:12:46] Rich Chelson:
is, like, ancient now. So Oh, yeah. Well, still, it's always fun to talk about, like, how eating meat somehow is supposed to be oppressing women.
[02:12:58] Unknown:
Oppressing women?
[02:13:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Eating meat oppresses women. Really.
[02:13:04] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah.
[02:13:05] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Enlighten us.
[02:13:08] Rich Chelson:
Alright. Well, the gender differences in, in vegetarian identity is the name of the, of the article on how men and women construe meatless dieting. And so the abstract is that meat is deeply associated with masculine identity. As such, it is unsurprising that women are more likely than men to become vegetarian. Give the nature, gender natures are v vegetarianism. Might men and women who become vegetarian express distinct identities around their diet, although 2 highly powered preregistered studies, some sets of n s equals 80, 90, and 1775, whatever that fucking means, self identified vegetarians, which, you know, you know, they're the they're they're the sufferable style an insufferable style of people who are instantly, that's their how they, they address themselves. Hi. I'm vegetarian. Hi. I'm vegan.
So, you know, self identified, vegetarians combining both frequent and by saying approaches. Alright. You, you know these people are ignorant. They have to try to use big ass words just sound like make themselves sound like they're smart. I found men, men and women differ among 2 dimensions of dietary at of each, or vegetarian identity, dietary motivation, and dietary adherence. Compared to vegetarian men, vegetarian women reported that they are more, for socially motivated to follow their diet and to adhere to their diet more strictly, I e less than less likely to cheat and eat meat. So enter any anyhow, so we, if we keep looking down, basically, according to, see, aside from health aspects, another reason why people may associate vegetarianism to femininity stems from the inherent human dominance over animals that occur with meat consumption.
Masculinity in western cultures, which is all cultures eat meat. So I love how they still try to go, well, it's the western, western civilization that that does all the meat. Well, no. There's Indian people eat a lot of chicken and goat. Chinese eat a lot of anything that will move. So the inherent human dominance over animal masculinity in western cultures is characterized by strength and dominance. Adams of 1990s Schrock and Schwabble, which is a funny name for a, for a, a publishing company. But, 1990, Schrock and Schwabble, 2009.
And the hunting, killing, and butchering of animals of for meat, they signify these connotations of virility. Sobal of 2005, Ruth Athol, 2001. According to Adams 19 90 feminist vegetarian, critique, male dominance over animals is intertwined with a patriarchal dominance over women. Eating meat can make men feel like real men. And by Roth Gerber, 2012 Sobel, 2005. And and symbolically subject men women bolstering men's social standings. So yep, they're they're rich all in all. So that's it. Okay. But, yeah, apparently apparently, they, they they, you've got, you've got wackos that, that wanna try to equate anything they can come up with to being some type of form of oppression, that men are horrible and terrible and no good and and because they walk down the street, because they eat food that they don't approve of.
Because they look at women. That that that's that's terrible, horrible, nasty, awful masculinity. They they make jokes with each other. Oh god.
[02:17:17] Duuude-Ron :
You know? Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. 90 hold on. 99% of the damn country just voted fucking American red, white, and blue, and American fucking apple pie.
[02:17:33] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's gonna show you how racist and and and, and homophobic and bigoted and and masochistic America is. I mean, all those women are masochists now.
[02:17:47] Duuude-Ron :
And and and there are still people Or misogynists, not masochists. They're misogynists.
[02:17:52] Rich Chelson:
Sorry. Gotta use the right word.
[02:17:55] Duuude-Ron :
There are still people still I I mean, people trying to elevate the the same rhetoric that they have dealt with for the last 4 years. Oh, yeah. I mean, can't can't anybody fucking evolve?
[02:18:15] Rich Chelson:
Obviously, no. No. And that is that now there's a actually, thank you. That's a topic to be that would could definitely be talking about. Is the, the point that our conservatives actually going too far down the same road the the, the Liberals were on? Now that we have actually won and have Trump in office,
[02:18:49] Duuude-Ron :
I'm lost.
[02:18:50] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Well,
[02:18:52] Duuude-Ron :
so again.
[02:18:54] Rich Chelson:
From from basically, from 2,020 until now, the past 4 years has been a liberal haven. Alright? To say the least. They, you said something wrong. They screeched at you. They they pointed fingers. They they tried everything they could to make sure you were, you were, you were ostracized and being kicked out of society because if you if you agree if you say you're sorry, you're agreeing with them. And so now they've got you by the proverbial balls, and they're gonna do everything they can to rip them off. Right. Right. Right. Well, during the inauguration, there was a, there was a comedienne who came on to one of the the mainstream media shows.
And they started she started making some jokes about being about the pa about the past 4 years. So she was making, you know, making comments, about, like, Pfizer and Moderna and, and and, you know, things like that. They were big and, you know, when you're talking about a news show, you don't joke about the about the drug companies because that's who's funding the news programs.
[02:20:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[02:20:20] Rich Chelson:
It's no one else. Not you know, you gotta afford from time to time, but it's usually, some type of pill, followed by some type of pill, followed by some type of erectile dysfunction pill, followed by some type of pill, followed by some type of pill. Dodge commercial. You know? And so they did a she did this whole little stream, or little little 5 minute, joke session just bashing on anything and everything that was liberal.
[02:20:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Okay.
[02:20:53] Rich Chelson:
And at first, everybody was digging this chick. They went and they saw her they looked her up. Her her following, grew. But shortly thereafter, all of a sudden, everybody started to hound jumping on her going, well, you were you were for, for the, for the vaccine. And she's like, no. I don't know if she was saying that, but, you know, they were talk they were hounding her about the fact that she was for a vaccine, and she was a lot of the liberals the liberal ideologies at the beginning of of 2020. And there's a and I get how you might wanna be a bit, a bit leery of somebody who was that liberal.
But at the same time, if you listen to what she has to say, she that that whole 4 this past 4 years was a huge open eye opener for a lot of people who thought they were liberal.
[02:21:52] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Or they're liberal They voted red. Classic
[02:21:56] Rich Chelson:
sense now. And they actually understand what the liberal classic sense. They're not they're not the early 20th century, progressive. They're the classic liberal. And Right. So, but I have this this comedian, she she realized through everything that was going on, all this censoring and the and the and and the, the the suppression of of of voices and The cancel culture and all that. Cancel culture. The you must you must vaccinate without any proof of whether the vaccine was gonna work or not. Surprise, surprise. It didn't. They, a lot of the conservatives instantly started turn around going, hey. Woah. Woah. Woah. And started trying to cancel her.
And that's one of those things where when I I saw that, I was like going, dude. No. We can't be having that happen because that makes us that makes the conservatives just as fucking bad as the liberals.
[02:23:12] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I mean, there's not much difference.
[02:23:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, there's not, but we can we can step up and we can be better. Well We could Yes. We can. Yeah. Congratulations. Yeah. Welcome to the welcome to the to the, to the right side. We have milk and cookies. Would you like some? We're we're welcoming. We and we are actually the tolerant ones. We will we will have those discussions if you wanna have them. You don't wanna dab them? Alright. Cool. We'll still have the discussions, just not with you in it. And so there's a lot of, but there's this is something that I've kinda noticed that's been happening for a while since, since, since Trump came into office.
And, so it's just one of those where it's like, really? We've we're trying to go as far and as hard. And I get it to a point. I mean, we want there there are those who want to try to punish, you know, the left for what all that they did to us. And Milk is already spilled. Why fucking try over it? Why why do we feel a bit about it now? Because, you know, it's like, well, they need to know how we how it feels. No. Trust me. They know how it felt. Grow the fuck up and move on. That's the reason why they were doing it is because they knew what they were doing. They knew that if they shut you down, they could keep going on and have their electric boogie loo with with the with the drag queens and and grooming children.
[02:24:51] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:24:53] Rich Chelson:
But because it's the the whole, the DEI stuff is falling through the floor now and is crumbling quickly, a lot of people would realize it's like, oh, wow. And so, yeah, we're gonna have those who turn and go, okay. Well, I'm I'm on the, I'm on the side of no DEI even though y'all they I was talking about it for all the way up until just yesterday. I I see the difference. And whether they are actually have or not is is beyond the point. Because, I mean, I've hell, I was sitting there. I'm playing catch up on my podcast and I keep across a podcast episode of, of Alexandria Stockwell.
And she is a, an intimacy coach. And she had, oh, what was the name of that damn episode? Something about, how to breathe life into a sexless marriage or something like that. But, I mean and I'm I tried to I tried to hold on, and I've I do have my biases. Okay. And my biases when I start hearing certain keywords, I start getting the twitches, and so I have to turn the damn thing off. Mhmm. And the big the big one that I'll if I ever hear problematic, I know instantly which side of the aisle you're on. And so I had they had she had or Alexander Stockwell had this couple on. Mhmm. And it was a guy and a girl, a very effeminate sounding guy and a very masculine sounding girl.
Still sounded like a girl. I believe she was biologically grew up as a girl, and and feminine guy was just, you know, I hate was would, you know, probably, has both sides of his bread and butter.
[02:26:50] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I mean, either way, you know, there there are men and women who sound like that. Oh, well, yeah. But You know? As they were talking and they were talking about how they're
[02:26:59] Rich Chelson:
they're, they're they come across very problematic issues and all this and yada yada yada and boohoo and blah blah. And they were as they kept talking, they were throwing out made up words. I forget what it was. It's something like, some it was a it was a play on pivot on on how to, you know, on the pivot, from a from a view or for, from a problem, had a pivot on it, but it was a lot but it was some it was some dumbass made up work, either way. And, and just all those, I was like going as they kept talking and as, and and all that, you could just you could hear. It's like, oh, yeah. They're they're definitely, they're definitely professional shitsters. They're, you know, they're the activists. And, that stuff. And as I was like, yeah. Yeah. They are definitely, definitely liberal. And they were like and then we just had the election just, just, a couple weeks ago, and intimacy has been really hard on us since that time. I was like, oh god. Okay. Never mind. I'm out They let hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. They let they let
[02:28:15] Duuude-Ron :
a fucking presidential election dictate
[02:28:19] Rich Chelson:
Exactly.
[02:28:19] Duuude-Ron :
Their how how Their sex life they're going to be. How fuck now that's sad. Over this. That is sad. I don't care who you are. If if if you are willing to let an event that that whether you agree or disagree and you have no fucking control over, dictate what kind of sex life you have, you're a sad individual. You need to change your mindset. You need to grow up, get out of mommy and daddy's house. Okay. Stop living in the basement and actually adult.
[02:28:58] Rich Chelson:
Right. But and so but again, I can't just kind of as a means of being able to point finger to at me, that was an instance of where I I know for a fact I was showing no no tolerance. Because I I and like I said, it's it's almost like a rodeo. It's almost like bronc riding for me. It's like, how long can I hold on it? You know, it's like, I hear this. I'm like, okay. This is gonna be, this is gonna be an and I or several times I picked the phone up and I was like, no. No. No. Let's see where it goes. Sometimes you'll learn something really cool. I better not no. No. No. And I had that fight. And I mean, we got we got probably 30 minutes in to an hour show before I was just, like, tapped out. I was like, okay. I can't do this no more. Uh-uh.
[02:29:46] Duuude-Ron :
Just to say you're like done. You did done better than me. I mean, I I did tapped out after probably 3 minutes, but well,
[02:29:53] Rich Chelson:
as you, as you listen to it, you're at first, you're like, okay. Okay. Let's see what they got. And you started listening to them and you're gone. Wow. That's a really in feminine guy. And just his the voice patterns and and how he talks to you, you're like, okay. Okay. Okay. I think I know which side of the aisle these 2 people are on because they're like I said, they their one of their favorite words is problematic. And so and there's just a lot of problematic stuff that sometimes happens, you know, and it's just like, oh god. No. No. Not the problematic word. We're we're we're we're I know which direction we're going for sure.
[02:30:28] Unknown:
And,
[02:30:29] Rich Chelson:
and and then yeah. There they mentioned. It's like, yeah. Our our our love life took a bit serious dip after, after after the after the elections. It's like, alrighty. Yeah. See that? I'm sorry. But one of those that went crying and had to go to had to go to a, had to go to their to their, to their safe room. Yeah.
[02:30:53] Duuude-Ron :
Well well, Brian, hang on. We're here real quick because you dropped this in the chat and didn't let dude know, I don't think. Oh. Dude? I told him I was gonna put it in there. Yeah. But but you didn't tell him when you put it in there, so I don't think dude has seen this picture yet. Yeah. There's there's your baby. Are you looking, dude?
[02:31:17] Rich Chelson:
Did dude fall asleep?
[02:31:20] Duuude-Ron :
I don't know. He's still on Zoom.
[02:31:24] Rich Chelson:
Well, I was on Zoom when I fell asleep. So
[02:31:29] Duuude-Ron :
Well well, now okay. Check this out. I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw another picture in the chat. It's a name we haven't heard in a long time. Mhmm. You gotta see what Monica Lewinsky looks like today. Oh, she's lost a lot of weight from what I understand. My god.
[02:31:49] Rich Chelson:
Check out this picture in the chat. Are you willing to get a Lewinsky from her now?
[02:31:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, dude. I'd get a whole lot of Lewinsky from her. I mean, she is she's very pretty.
[02:32:03] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, I thought she was pretty back then. She was on the pokey side. I agree to that. Yeah. No. No. I I did too. You know? Yeah. You know, that's Everybody was giving her giving her a lot of a lot of, lot of fit about the fact that she was a little rounder than than than Twiggy. Right. Well, yeah. I mean, the the model style back then was, you know, you have to be anorexic. You have to be able to see every single one of your ribs, encounter backbones, you know, and have skeletal people for as as high fashion models. And I was just like, no. And so, yeah, when Lowensky shows up, and she's she's got some meat on her bones, and everybody's making fun of her. I was like, going, oh, really? She's kinda cute. She's, you know Yeah. No. I I mean, I thought out of bed for eating Oreos.
[02:32:51] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Right. I mean, I was thinking the same thing, but, yeah, I I had saw something on Microsoft Edge. It said, Monica, Lewinsky is fixing to start a podcast. So I clicked on it. And, I saw that picture, and I'm like,
[02:33:09] Rich Chelson:
Really? I've got a cigar for you, man.
[02:33:13] Duuude-Ron :
I'm like,
[02:33:14] Rich Chelson:
holy crap. You know? Can I can I store my cigar in your humidor?
[02:33:22] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. It just it just, yeah. It just, yeah, it it kinda set me back because I hadn't I hadn't looked at a picture of her, and I'm just like Yeah. I hadn't seen her since, since the blue dress days. Right. Right. And I'm, you know, I'm thinking I'm thinking you was cute back then, but damn.
[02:33:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. All of a sudden, shed shed a little bit, few extra pounds and get your boobs. Good job. Alright.
[02:33:48] Duuude-Ron :
But but see this, you know, see that's that still gets me, dude, that that people and like I said earlier, people need to evolve. They need to change their mindset because letting an election, you know, rule your sex life.
[02:34:11] Rich Chelson:
Rule anything. I'm sorry. But No. Yeah. Just anything in life. It's like, oh, I'm gonna be depressed for the next, you know, month and a half. I mean, my my mom's is technically, he's a fucking roommate. He's not a, he's not her boyfriend, but she likes to try to call him boyfriend. And I I, personally, I think he's a little on the fruity side. That's just me. Don't know for a fact. Haven't actually asked him, so I don't know. But anyhow, he would he's a he's a big big screaming liberal. And, and, yeah, he's he's been, apparently, do, reports from, from my mole have said that, yeah, he he's apparently, checking out, checking out, checking out, what it takes to move to Costa Rica. And I'm like, please, dude, dude. Go. You're, like, 80 years old. And Good.
And I mean, it's funny because it's he's also thrown up let's see if I can find this, find out the actual phrase that he used.
[02:35:16] Duuude-Ron :
No. Yeah. No. You see you see, that's the thing. You know? I am all for that. You know, if you wanna let hey. You see, again, people are letting strangers dictate what they think, how they feel, and and how they react. It's like it's like, man, y'all have been brainwashed so bad. It's unreal. You know? I mean, I can't that's why that's why I can't listen to politics or or, you know, read about a lot of this shit because I just I get so mad at the fact that how people can let something this little control their whole life. They are missing out on a lot.
Right. I don't know. I'm just I'm just baffled, man. Right. I see. Where is this? I still got to do a little watch. Dude, did you wake up yet? How are your hearing aids up?
[02:36:21] Unknown:
Oh, I've been I've been listening to you guys tassing about your brick and brack.
[02:36:28] Rich Chelson:
Do you look in the, look in the chat?
[02:36:33] Unknown:
Yeah. No. It's in the chat. You talking about, boobies?
[02:36:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. Your boobies. And the second one is Monica Lewinsky, dude.
[02:36:44] Unknown:
Monica Lewinsky.
[02:36:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Remember the blue dress back in the nineties?
[02:36:53] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:36:54] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Look at her today. She grew the hell up.
[02:37:01] Unknown:
Yeah. She did.
[02:37:03] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Right?
[02:37:07] Unknown:
And look what she's wearing. Crocs.
[02:37:12] Duuude-Ron :
No. It's not Crocs, dude.
[02:37:16] Unknown:
I can't wait till they go to high heeled Crocs. That yeah. That would be fucking hilarious.
[02:37:21] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, god. Fucking hospitals better gear up when they do. Fucking ER is gonna be full. Radiology is gonna take 2 weeks to get an x-ray. And that's the thing. That's with, digital, which is what they do X rays on now. Yeah. That's just but, yeah, Brian yeah. Yeah. Brian threw the picture in the chat, but he didn't tell you. And then I had just happened to see that picture of Monica, and I'm like, yeah. I need to throw that up. What's that? Because it's like, wow. Hell, she's what? 50 now, isn't she? I don't know.
[02:38:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Something close to that. Yeah.
[02:38:24] Duuude-Ron :
She wasn't, that old. She's 51. Yeah. Yeah. She, she born in 1973. So I fig I figured I figured, she was around my age, our age.
[02:38:48] Unknown:
Oh.
[02:38:51] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm.
[02:38:52] Unknown:
Well, alrighty then.
[02:38:55] Rich Chelson:
So you're still looking.
[02:38:57] Duuude-Ron :
And she's an anti bullying activist. I mean, you think?
[02:39:08] Rich Chelson:
After what after what she went through? Yeah. Right.
[02:39:16] Duuude-Ron :
I mean, that was, yeah, that was bullying at its at its best, I guess. You know?
[02:39:27] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:39:28] Duuude-Ron :
So I mean, and, and no, I get it. I agree with her. You know, people shouldn't be bullied, you know? So I mean, you could say I'm an anti bully.
[02:39:47] Unknown:
I agree.
[02:39:49] Duuude-Ron :
But, you know, just be kind to people. But the thing is, I've been known to do this once or twice. I'll call people a dumbass to their faith because they're being a dumbass. Ask my nephew. He'll tell you. I call him a dumbass every once in a while. I love the hell out of him, but sometimes he just I'm like, dude, you're a dumbass. That's Dusty, the guy that races go karts. He likes to call me at, like, 9 or 10 o'clock at night and ask me a math question. I'm like, really, dude? And and he knows this. I've told him many times that it don't work that well, but, no, he still does it. Oh, I forgot. Sorry. You're a dumbass.
Alright. What's your math question? And it's normally about, tire stagger on a go kart because he has to measure the, circumference of his tires.
[02:41:02] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:41:03] Duuude-Ron :
And, they have to be within, like, an inch and a half of each other to, track right on the, you know, when he's racing. So, he'll, give me both measurements, and, I'll do the math for him and tell him if if, you know, if he's out too far or if he needs to adjust air pressure on one side or the other. And, honestly, I I yeah. Dude lives in Iowa, and he will call me from the track and say, hey. I've got a math question. Like, what? And I'm sitting here, and and I tell him. He's like, okay. I'm good now. I know what I have to do. I'm like, you sure? Yeah. I'm good. Okay.
Oh, yeah. He says I'm his tire guy. I'm like, dude, I live a 1000 miles away. But oh, Breezy turned 12
[02:42:13] Rich Chelson:
Yay.
[02:42:14] Duuude-Ron :
Last week. No. Don't be yay ing for her.
[02:42:19] Unknown:
No.
[02:42:22] Duuude-Ron :
I don't I didn't want her to turn 12. I did not want that to happen because she's getting older, dude.
[02:42:37] Rich Chelson:
She's not like that Sam I am. No. I don't.
[02:42:42] Duuude-Ron :
That's my little girl. She needs to be 34 years old. I'd be happy. Or 56, that's fine. But, no, no 12. It is weird, though, when I text her that, that, me and her can have a conversation. Still blows my mind. I know it's not it's not that hard to do, but it's true. Yeah. I sit there and, you know, I'm sitting here talking with a 12 year old, having a decent conversation, and I'm like, wow. No. Breezy, you're supposed to be younger. We're supposed to be talking about, you know, Paw Patrol or Pokemon cards or this crap, you know, whatever. Anything else. But now and it's like, really?
So, yeah, MJ fuck. I forget when his birthday is. I think it's August. And then me, I can't I can't remember when hers is. MJ, I think, will be 6 this year or 5. I can't remember. I just I just can't remember. Just can't. Oh, MJ's birthday is in October. Yeah. I don't know. Oh, yeah. October 9th. Don't know what year, but October 9th. So, dude, are you falling asleep on us, man? Yes. I think he's tired.
[02:44:37] Unknown:
No. I'm listening. CP. I'm listening.
[02:44:42] Duuude-Ron :
And wake the baby.
[02:44:47] Unknown:
I'm listening to y'all. Yeah. Yeah. You said what the hell you just can't remember what the hell you just said, but I'm listening to you. I'm listening
[02:44:58] Rich Chelson:
something.
[02:44:59] Duuude-Ron :
You sitting back there in the shadows, like, please leave me alone. I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to get a nap. Leave me alone. Trying to snooze.
[02:45:09] Rich Chelson:
So So well, yeah. So well, we've got, guess it's about time to to, to bring the old this old, this old show, down and bring it to a stop and and, so that one the dude could go off and actually get a nap. And, and, yeah, I'm I need to do the same because I gotta get up early so I can get over where I need to be by by early enough that I can make it back before my, with my delivery, my my second delivery for tomorrow so I don't have to actually do it on Sunday or, Saturday. So so yeah. So but anyhow, guys, alright. I wanna say thank y'all so much for taking the time out of your day. Have it sitting down and having a listen and seeing what, what 2 grumpy vets and a dude are are talking about. And today, we're done talking, you know, just kinda the random stuff that we often do. But, yeah. We have a we have some some great, great conversations, great times, and we do this out of a means of just showing everybody what it's like to have great conversations with with each other. Hold up. I got a cough.
[02:46:33] Duuude-Ron :
And, hold on. Still there. Hold up. Hold up. I was gonna say I didn't hear anything.
[02:46:39] Rich Chelson:
That's the power of the mute.
[02:46:42] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. Oh, okay.
[02:46:48] Rich Chelson:
Nothing like trying to start talking and all of a sudden get a tickle in the back. You're throwing your eyes.
[02:46:53] Duuude-Ron :
I hate that, man. I know, mister. Freaking hate that. That's that's why I got, like, a couple cases of water because
[02:47:01] Rich Chelson:
I'll slide over, grab a bottle of water, and jug half of it. Yeah. I got a I yeah. I usually keep a jug right here in front of me. I don't know why I didn't have it here with me this this time, but anyhow, so guys, yeah, we're we like to just sit down and we've been meeting together for several years since 21. And, and so we've just been a group of guy, a collection of guys who just like to have have good conversations, just share our lives together. And that's what we're doing. We're actually just sharing our lives together. We're touching base once a week. And it's not anything difficult. It's not anything hard. You don't have to have deep philosophical discussions. I mean, it's it's fun to throw those in from time to time, but they're not required.
And so that's what we do. We me and me and Rich, we like to sit around and bitch about stuff, or I like to bitch about stuff. And then Rich tries to, tries to throw me off my game by playing the opposite side, and it it it it does a good job of doing that. So yeah. I'm I'm I won't be able to sympathize with me, and he's like going, yeah. But what about this? It's like, well, I don't care.
[02:48:11] Duuude-Ron :
It builds character, man. And builds something.
[02:48:16] Rich Chelson:
Heartburn mainly. Right. But but anyhow, it so but this show is a value for value show. What does that mean? It means that we don't run advertisements. As you noticed, we didn't do, this show is brought to you by the makers of Prozac. You know? Prozac, sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Or, you know, or our, from this portion of the show is brought to you by the makers of, Tampax. We're not the greatest thing on there, but we're right up in there. So, you know, we we don't have those types of of advertisements. I mean, it'd be great if we'd worked, but at the same time, we don't because it's a it's a means of censorship.
Because all of a sudden, we can't just say whatever we want because we might say something that our sponsors will not like. I mean, that's why when you go on to YouTube, Dow, you see everybody talking about even people who are actually advocates for pornography, addiction recovery. They can't even say what their what their their business is about because they're using the word porn. And when you use word porn, oh my gosh, we can't do that because we can't we don't want people don't wanna advertise against, that that particular word. And so they've they get bumped down on the algorithm.
And so, instead of, talking about having porn addiction, they talk about having a corn addiction. And it's like, what the hell is a corn addiction? You know? It's no. It doesn't work. And that's liquor. Exactly. You know what I mean? Unless yeah. Well, I mean, they're okay with moonshine and corn liquor, but but, but, you know, to be have a corn addiction, I mean, it's like, no. There's a couple of, a couple of game, reviewers that, will show them playing through a particular game. And all of a sudden their game will turn black and white because again, YouTube doesn't like blood.
If what's doing a video game, there's gonna be a lot of blood just flying around because that's kinda the nature of the game. Right? Well But yet, they they, have to make these little idiosyncratic changes because they have to self censor themselves so that they can get money. Well, we don't do that. We are a value for value show, which means if you found any value from what we're doing, then help us in any way that you can. You can pay it back by time. You could provide some time. You could, fill out, our our chapters. You could, do, talent. Maybe you're a graphic saw graphic artist.
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So but that's just not anything at the moment, but somewhere down the road, who knows? You never can tell what the future may hold. So, but yeah, we are a value for value show. We enjoy the heck out of the fact that we're not going to charge you. We're not going to come up and start doing a Patreon of, well, for $5, you can do this. And for $20, you'll actually, you'll, we'll do the show in person in front of you or something. And, no, we're not gonna we're not doing that either. We're not gonna require withhold content from you simply because you weren't willing to cough up a little few extra dollars.
If you find the value of those few extra dollars there, then please again, please show it. Please share it, and and let us know and tell us thank you. And we will, we'll acknowledge the fact that you, that you helped the show, you supported the show, and we will we will come up with some fun and inventive way to, say thank you very, very much. So with that, I wanna say thank you again. To sing. Even if dude has to sing it. If dude we may end up cracking out the the the, the the pipe organ and have have dude, dance in a in a monkey outfit.
[02:54:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh.
[02:54:24] Rich Chelson:
Dude passed out again. He's like, uh-uh. So Alright. I'll go I'll go ahead and I'll quit my my chattering at the moment and let, and, Rich, what do you got to say about, about the closing shots?
[02:54:40] Duuude-Ron :
Well, sorry about, stepping on you there right at the end of the day. I couldn't pass that up, man. That was just yeah. That was funny. But, now I wanna say yeah. Seriously, thank you to freaking everybody. I, Brian, I don't know if you've seen it yet or not. I just it just come through my email, I think, today. Oh, yeah. The way you you reached level 1. Yeah. We yeah. We reached level 1, with Pod Home. They have, different re re rewards you can get. I was like, that's cool. But, yeah, just all the freaking man. The numbers are just it's weird. We're not even a year into this yet. We still got two and a half months to go. Yeah. But we got a pretty good download here in the last 7 days, I just noticed.
[02:55:27] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Got a little bumpy.
[02:55:31] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. We've gotten, yeah, quite a few downloads in the last 7 days. So, I mean, someone's listening to us, and I checked the OP three numbers, and, oh, god. The OP three numbers have come up. Yep. So, you know, I mean I mean, we're doing something right. Someone's listening and laughing. I, I, you know, I can't hear you laughing, but I know you're laughing because otherwise you wouldn't keep coming back and listening to us. But either way, just thank you for listening, share this out. And, you know, if you wanna reach out, you know, if like, like Brian said, you know, if you wanna volunteer some time or anything, email us. You can email me at rchelson.
That's r [email protected]@circlecast, circlecastgmail.com. And, you know, let us know what you think. And, yeah, just perfect that my phone had to go off right then and there. Of course. Yeah. I know. Right? That was just perfect. But and if you want to hear from the dude, just email either one of us, and we'll make sure the dude gets the question. And, we'll let him we will have him answer it on the air for y'all in in his infinite wisdom. So, I mean, that's that's easy easiest way. Reach out and just say, hey. How you doing? How's your mom and them? You know? You wanna help with, you know, show notes, cover art, whatever. Great. Come on. Because I'm not that great at it. I'm just, I'm, I'm struggling here, but I get it done anyway.
You know, thanks again. And, y'all have a great evening. And, dude, if you're still awake, turn your batteries up. What you got?
[02:57:35] Unknown:
Turn my batteries up, Wow. Nothing but low. Batteries up. That's right, man. My hatches up. Well, you know, again, we, come on this podcast every week, and we kind of beat each other up, and then we'll slap each other around, and then, you know, wash, rinse, and repeat, and we'll beat the shit out of each other. And, you know, that's just because this is what we enjoy doing, because we know that we are not gonna hurt each other's feelings, because we don't crack on each other maliciously. So, you know, we just enjoy cracking on each other just because we can.
Absolutely.
[02:58:27] Duuude-Ron :
So We don't let an election dictate our sex lives.
[02:58:32] Rich Chelson:
Sorry. I'm still on that. Okay? Sorry. But, I'm married, so I don't have a sex life.
[02:58:39] Unknown:
Or what or what gender we are.
[02:58:43] Duuude-Ron :
That too.
[02:58:44] Unknown:
Yeah. So but yeah. Again, everybody that, listens and, you know, enjoys our podcast, continue on to download them. And, you know, again, we have no idea what the podcast is gonna start with. Let sure the hell don't Don't know how it's gonna end, and don't ask us about the middle because that one's just as confusing going down all those gold falls. Go foals. And just going all over the place. So, you know, again, if you want us to speak on a particular topic that might interest you and you want our unso definitely unsolicited opinions, we can do that too. So That's what I got going on.
[02:59:52] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that sounds good. That's that that sounds real good. Yes. Yes. You wanna hear us hear our thoughts on a subject? Feel free. Email us, [email protected]@gmail.com, and we will definitely include it in a future episode.
[03:00:12] Rich Chelson:
Absolutely. And if you wanna send a message over to, over the dude, just send that over to [email protected], and we'll get it to him. [email protected]? You thought you thought I wouldn't go catch it. Oh, no. I figured you'd catch it. I'm just gonna make sure I do it every time now.
[03:00:33] Unknown:
Same as last week. But again, yo, give us a subject that we can bring it down to go for.
[03:00:43] Rich Chelson:
So Alright. Well, guys, y'all take care. Thanks again for, for listening. And, guys, thank y'all for, for coming on and and talking again, and we will, see y'all next week. Till then.
[03:00:57] Duuude-Ron :
Bye. He's out.
[03:01:02] Unknown:
See you next week.
[03:01:03] Rich Chelson:
Alright, guys. Catch you all next week. Bye. Alright. Alright. Love you guys. Bye.
Introduction and Weather Talk
Brian Joins and Food Talk
Art and Painting Discussion
Technical Troubles and Home Maintenance
Political Commentary and Current Events
Footwear Debate: Crocs vs. Hey Dudes
Monica Lewinsky and Anti-Bullying
Closing Remarks and Thank Yous
