Welcome to another episode of Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude, where we dive into our weekly banter filled with humor, social commentary, and intentional living. This week, we kick off with a lively discussion about the thrill of steering massive naval vessels, reminiscing about the Navy days and the excitement of sea trials. Bryan joins us mid-conversation, adding his own tales from the bridge.
We then shift gears to a heated debate about welfare fraud, sparked by a viral video of a woman allegedly abusing the system. Our conversation explores the complexities of welfare, societal perceptions, and the challenges of navigating assistance programs.
As the discussion unfolds, we delve into the world of painting and the challenges of working with frozen acrylics. Rich shares his recent artistic endeavors and the unexpected hurdles of dealing with curdled paint.
Our conversation takes a turn towards the world of racing, discussing the excitement of sprint cars and the legendary Knoxville Nationals. We reminisce about the thrill of the race and the unique culture surrounding these events.
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Bryan Goodwin:
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy vets and a duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
Dude.
[00:00:37] Duuude-Ron :
What's going on?
[00:00:38] Rich Chelson:
What's up, man?
[00:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
Not much.
[00:00:42] Rich Chelson:
Don't know where Brian's at.
[00:00:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Who knows?
[00:00:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't know.
[00:00:51] Duuude-Ron :
He's ODFF, out deaf fucking flapping.
[00:00:57] Rich Chelson:
You know you know, he was Navy, so they just drive around the ocean and, half the time, don't know where they're going anyway.
[00:01:09] Duuude-Ron :
Pretty much. You know, that that would be fun to actually be at the steering wheel of a fucking aircraft carrier. You know that?
[00:01:21] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shoot. That yeah. Battleship, aircraft carrier, any anything that big. Dude, that would be like that would, like, freaking give me a hard on, man.
[00:01:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:01:33] Rich Chelson:
It would. I mean, just think. You're the one driving that son of a bitch. Yep. The biggest thing in that country. You know?
[00:01:45] Duuude-Ron :
Pretty much. The only thing you're gonna get bigger than that is the fucking, container ships.
[00:01:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:01:55] Duuude-Ron :
So,
[00:01:57] Unknown:
yeah, I think, Brian did Brian just come on? Because he's I just came on board.
[00:02:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We was
[00:02:05] Duuude-Ron :
you sound like you're very beginning sound like you're doing Chinese cellular.
[00:02:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I probably was.
[00:02:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Trying to get your earbud earbuds hooked up. Yeah. Trying to get the mic the podcast
[00:02:19] Bryan Goodwin:
rig all set up. So
[00:02:21] Rich Chelson:
Now we was talking about, well, dude popped on, and you hadn't popped on. And I I said to dude, I said, well, Brian ain't on. He's like, oh, well. He's he's ODFF. I dare flapping around. And, I'm like I'm like, yeah. Yeah. He was navy. So, you know, they just drive around the sea, you know, not knowing where they're going anyways. So Well, I mean, there there's no landmarkers. Right. But but, yeah, we was talking about how cool it would be to drive an aircraft carrier, a battleship, or anything that big.
[00:03:02] Bryan Goodwin:
It would be inter it's interesting. But at the same time, I mean, the only thing that's really cool about it, from what I've seen whenever I'm up on the, was up on the bridge, was that, was that it just took a little wheel. A little control? That whole damn thing.
[00:03:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know.
[00:03:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Very small wheel. Almost the what? Pretty much the same size as the regular steering wheel for the Well, it's bigger than that, but still, I mean, it's, you know, it's probably good. Oh, fad guess. Probably about three feet in, in diameter. No. Oh, okay.
[00:03:48] Duuude-Ron :
About two and a half feet in diameter. Or,
[00:03:51] Bryan Goodwin:
yeah. Yeah. Three feet in diameter.
[00:03:54] Duuude-Ron :
And, boy, that would be fucking cool to fly a fucking aircraft carrier, especially doing, trial or a no. During a before he actually gets commissioned and they go out there and Oh, sea trials. Sea trials. Yeah. Driving that son of a bitch during sea trials.
[00:04:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, driving that bitch like I was drunk, man.
[00:04:20] Duuude-Ron :
That would be the fucking bomb. Yeah. And, you know, good thing about it is you wouldn't hit anything. That's for sure.
[00:04:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Oh, no. Nope. Because the Kitty Hawk actually ran over, you a Soviet sub once.
[00:04:33] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Oh, yeah.
[00:04:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, the sub the sub
[00:04:38] Bryan Goodwin:
shouldn't have been in its way. Well, that's kinda what I'm saying. I was like, dude, we're not you're the one that was all being all sneaky and stuff trying to hide out from us. So it wasn't while I was on there. I think it was, like, in the early eighties, so I was still bebopping around in kindergarten.
[00:04:57] Unknown:
Oh, you know, I guess the I guess the sub did not give the aircraft carrier the right away.
[00:05:04] Duuude-Ron :
Nope. And what is it? And what's it take to do a u-turn on a freaking air care carry about fucking nine miles?
[00:05:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It probably takes a couple miles to to turn. I don't know what exactly what the, what the turning radius is, but it it's a bit. I mean, it's visible. Actually, I'm if I had to guess, it's probably actually less than, less than an actual mile to flip a bitch, but it's really cool if they have to if they have to do a hard turn. Uh-huh. And you look out over, you're out on the, on the aft, aft deck. Man, that, you sit there and watch that, watch that, weight just, curving off to the side. Yeah. It's it's cool looking.
[00:05:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. The biggest boat I've ever been on oh, fuck. Riding in a shit. Just a regular fucking boat, I guess. Fishing boat. You have to fish your boat? Well Nothing nothing too big.
[00:06:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, I looked it up because I was, like, inquiring minds wanna know here. Uh-huh. The turning radius of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier, which I believe the the Kitty Hawk was. Right? No. No. It was
[00:06:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Nimitz is is a, is is a nuclear class, and, Kitty Hawk was a oil burner.
[00:06:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, really? Okay. But but, anyway, it says, it says, like, USS Ronald Reagan, I guess it's a Nimitz class Yep. Is approximately, 3,450 feet at a speed of 30 knots. In other words, it it it takes about three quarters of a mile to turn around. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds about right. At a 30 knots. Now it says it can do a 80 degree turn at high speed,
[00:07:19] Bryan Goodwin:
but it it Yeah. But you're gonna make sure everything is trapped down before they do one of those. Yeah. Because you will that pup will be laid leaning over hard.
[00:07:32] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm. So, yeah, roughly roughly about three quarters of a mile is what it takes to turn to turn one of them big son bitches around. So
[00:07:47] Duuude-Ron :
That's why I said c doing c trials, that would be the bomb. Mhmm. Yeah. So, Brian, that video that you sent me
[00:08:00] Bryan Goodwin:
What'd y'all think of that? Holy shit.
[00:08:03] Duuude-Ron :
They I I have that actually came up on my Facebook. And, you know, I don't know which one was first, but she was talking about owning a Cadillac Escalade.
[00:08:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. No. I found her I found her profile
[00:08:23] Duuude-Ron :
here at And now she has a talk. And now she has a BMW, so I guess she has both. Hell, you know, fuck yeah.
[00:08:34] Rich Chelson:
You wanna fucking
[00:08:36] Duuude-Ron :
try to get government assistance that so many people fucking actually need, and you have not only a Cadillac Escalade, but a BMW. And if you want your, you know, benefits back, you need to steal the fucking car. Hell fucking yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think and one of them was that, she lost her benefits, and they issued her a notice that she had to repay the past twelve months of benefits. Fuck. Yeah.
[00:09:23] Bryan Goodwin:
You know, it's it's gonna Well, here I mean, besides for the DHS, it's forcing me to sell my 02/2024 BMW, which the more I look at this and stuff, the more I'm thinking maybe this chick might be a bit there's something just not quite on the on the up and up with her bitching. I almost wonder if she is trying to just go for for, go for, you know, just audience attraction? Because, I mean, besides for the DHS is forcing me to sell my 02/2024 BMW or my food stamps gets cut, which I'm still trying to figure out. If she was a actually, if that's actually legit, if that is truly what's happened to her, how did she do that?
How did she put and, and I know people do it because I've seen people who have food stamps and get into Cadillac Escalades with an iPhone and a Louis Vuitton handbag.
[00:10:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yep.
[00:10:39] Bryan Goodwin:
And it's like, how? How the hell do you what is the what what's the secret to working that type of system? Because how do you hide that type of income? Because you do have to report EBT to or to, the welfare, place usually about once every six months, sometimes one and maybe at the longest once a year.
[00:11:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because and I'm sure that a lot of them and I don't know. Probably day laborers and get paid by cash.
[00:11:22] Bryan Goodwin:
But she gets paid, I mean, according to what, what she claims, and I'm gonna have to say claim really strongly because, again, I'm not really buying everything she says. I think she's I think probably about another week, two weeks down the road, we're gonna find out that, this is a bunch of bunch of BS, and I'll I'll I'll tell you why in here a bit. Because then she another one that she has is my EBT card was just declined. They took everything. No food stamps, disability, cash benefits, and childcare. What am I going to do? And then out of nowhere is one that says, dear trans community, please don't expect me to accept who you are when you couldn't accept yourself for who you are.
So that sounds very right wingish. And, yes, I I understand. There are plenty of right wingers who will take advantage of the system too. And it's very possible that if she is actually busted for doing what she did I mean, one, there it is welfare fraud.
[00:12:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:12:33] Bryan Goodwin:
But because to be able to bring in enough money to and and still, the thing that blows my mind is $4,000 worth of food stamps. I mean, did she put down that she had she had the, cheaper by the dozen family?
[00:12:58] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. One of them that that she had or she says she has had seven kids.
[00:13:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So she she's closer to eight is enough.
[00:13:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[00:13:09] Bryan Goodwin:
But still I'm sorry. When I was on food stamps, and I used to be on food stamps with three kids, our food stamps were still not a thousand dollars. Our food stamps were, I think, was about $5,600. I had a friend who who, who actually did have five kids. And, yeah, they got close to a thousand
[00:13:43] Duuude-Ron :
But what year was that? Roughly.
[00:13:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, that was see. How long has they have they been that had to have been, ten, fifteen years ago when they lived Okay. They lived close close enough to where we we knew that they had. Because all their kids are now grown and out of the house.
[00:14:10] Duuude-Ron :
But Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.
[00:14:13] Bryan Goodwin:
But still, I mean, it's to have $4,000 worth of food stamps. And, of course, she also complains about having her cash assistance, which, in in Texas, it was called TANF. And you only got TANF if you if you had no no boyfriend, no husband, no extra help coming in, you got a little bit and when I say a little bit of cash assist I mean, a little bit bit of cash assistance. Because before me and, Jana got married, she was and and stuff, she was on Tana for a bit. And Okay. That was you know, she got again, this is in the nineties. So she got maybe $50 in
[00:15:12] Rich Chelson:
cash. Maybe.
[00:15:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And then she's in Section 8. The claim she's in section eight. I'll just claim because this is what she claims. I don't I'm begin the more I talk about it, the more I'm I I'm starting to kinda think. Are you thinking now? Well, I am because I'm looking at more to see. She's got, one from five days ago, that has the, the state the the the, title of the state is making me pay back over $40,000 in food stamps and cash benefits because, what I do for work, which I'm not sure. I don't think you can make that freaking much money on TikTok. I mean, you possibly can, but let's see here. How much does how what is the size of her?
She's only got a, only a 19,000 lot, followers, which is a lot, but that's not enough to fans page must be outrageous. She may have an only fans. I mean so but, the state but then she also says when was this? Let's see here. When was this? Oh, hell. This is k. This says back in 01/18, the state gave me all my welfare benefits back, plus getting more in food stamps than I was, and I got my, utilities, shut off paid. Okay. And the the one that everybody's got really got the fluff on, kicked off in in February. So, again, I mean, it's like something something's just we're not jiving here.
Because January 26, DHS took my food stamps, cash, and disability for, dumping pop out from a for a 10¢ deposit and then reported me to the state. What am I going to do now? What? I'm sorry. No. I call bullshit on that one.
[00:17:32] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and I saw that one myself. It's like, me personally, you're gonna fucking advertise your business. Basically, you said fuck around and find out. And she fucked around and found out, you know, that it's gonna fucking suck. You abuse the system. But see, you again, I I fucking I don't know her from Ademer's or, Ademer's house cat. You know, she's I guess she's from Massachusetts. I don't know.
[00:18:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But there's something just there there's something fishy about this profile.
[00:18:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But there and there are, honestly, a lot of people that could use it and need it. But, again, if you're honest, you ain't gonna get it. If you fucking Yeah. Like like It just I don't know. Why? Just does not yeah. Lot of people what? Did I lose it? You know? It it just Did y'all lose me? Oh, there you are. No. Are you there?
[00:18:54] Bryan Goodwin:
You there? Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm here now.
[00:18:57] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. No. I'm here. You're there.
[00:19:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Wherever there is. I'm hearing you. You hearing me?
[00:19:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. I am.
[00:19:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Rich, are you hearing me?
[00:19:12] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I'm hearing you. Okay. Okay.
[00:19:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Just wanting to But you're not I'm in a I'm kinda in a iffy spot. So
[00:19:21] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, the problem is is you're not hearing you. Everybody else can hear you,
[00:19:27] Bryan Goodwin:
but you can't hear you. Well, you well, I'm not hearing I I hear you, and then all of a sudden, you just kinda be talking and nothing. And I'm like
[00:19:38] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. Well, you know what? You probably need to get rid of the earbuds or get some new ones or just not wear them.
[00:19:44] Rich Chelson:
Well, then I wouldn't be able to hear you at all.
[00:19:49] Duuude-Ron :
You don't have a speaker on your computer?
[00:19:53] Bryan Goodwin:
I do. But if I'm gonna record, I'd rather go ahead and go through a microphone. Oh, okay. Well well So
[00:20:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It would sound a whole for what? Sounds a whole lot better. Yeah.
[00:20:07] Bryan Goodwin:
But
[00:20:08] Duuude-Ron :
so but yeah. I mean What the more I look at? So much better. What the hell sounds so much better if you have earphones on or not having earphones on? It's not the earphones.
[00:20:17] Bryan Goodwin:
It's not the earphones at all. It is the microphone. That sounds a lot better. Okay. So You know what? I will have to believe you because
[00:20:32] Duuude-Ron :
I don't have a microphone. I just have, you know, where I talk in the phone at, and
[00:20:40] Bryan Goodwin:
I guess And that does typically pretty good. So but, but when you go to, like, a, like, a laptop microphone, it's more of a condenser, so you can hear a lot more of the room noise, and it's nowhere near as as good as as a as a dynamic in a regular room. Now if we were to be in a in a, in a in a recording booth, we would want a condenser microphone because that helps capture the full range of a person's voice. While if you're the but, again, the only problem is is that if you go out outside of a recording booth, you can hear a cricket fart at the end of the block. So you hear everything.
[00:21:43] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I would I would have to believe you because I've never been in that situation, you know, with the microphone, the headphones, all that other stuff. It's just you know?
[00:21:54] Bryan Goodwin:
What was the name of the there was I was listening to an audiobook, and it was I think it was called something along the lines of, like, how to unfuck your mind. It was something like that. It was a basically, it was a liberal woman who was trying to be edgy and stuff. And so she was trying to use the f bomb every third word. And, it was one of those words. She said the f word that dropped an f bomb so much became distracting. And you know what it was. Because as she she would be talking or she'd be doing her book and blah blah blah blah, and there'd be this effing bit and effing this and effing this and this and this and this and that and that and effing this. And then she would get to talking and she would fall into her rhythm again, and the f bombs would fade away.
And then you would she would, you could tell. She would almost you could almost hear the click of, oh, hello. I'm not being edgy enough. I need to f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f. It was it's just like, oh, but the problem that I had with it wasn't even so much all the f bombs. It was sounded like she was recording in the bathroom. There was so much room noise and reverb and and echoes and everything else that, one, it sounded like she was recording from about 30 feet away.
And all the room noise, she had her gain apparently, she had her gain turned up to 30. And it was just the I I I finished the book because there was some really interesting aspects to what she was covering, but I couldn't give a I couldn't I couldn't recommend that book to anybody. I mean, when it got done and it and Audible asked for a review, it was one star across the board. It was like it was unlistenable. And everybody else was like, well, you know, this is what happens when you record in your, when you try to be edgy and record in your bathroom.
It was like everybody was like, there's so much echo. It's too much echo. Oh my god. And so yeah.
[00:24:11] Duuude-Ron :
You know, it was all of us and all of us that have been in the military, yes, the f bomb flies a lot. But that's just, you know, our conversation. That's how we have learned to talk is with the f bomb. And and there's nothing wrong. But even then,
[00:24:32] Bryan Goodwin:
y'all the the military doesn't use the f bomb every other word. And I mean, there was times it was literally this effing dog effing walked effing across the effing street and effing peed on the effing hydrant. And it's like, son of a gun, man. Are you serious? You are not being edgy. You are not being cool. You were you're like a little 12 year old who just learned how to say the word and you wanna you try to be cool and so you're saying it every time you can.
[00:25:06] Duuude-Ron :
You know, after about thirty seconds of that, I would've just shut the shit off. Exactly. It got it it like I said, it got it it got distracting.
[00:25:14] Bryan Goodwin:
And, honestly, you can tell the liberal the the liberated liberal woman because of how much they cuss. Because they will drop the f bomb any chance they can. Thinking that I don't know. I guess I'm assuming that it they think that it gives them power, it gives them legitimacy. And, okay, you can drop an f bomb at times when you think you need to, but it you loses all power. It's like, you know, how they like to drop the just call everybody racist. Back in the eighties, you said racist. Everybody was like, oh my god. I'm no racist. Uh-huh. And everybody changed their attitude because all of a sudden, you're being called racist. And now, you know, it's it's gotten so bad that somebody calls you racist. You're like, oh, alright. Alright. Whatever you say so. And you carry on.
[00:26:10] Duuude-Ron :
You know? And I've never been considered racist Only because I hate I hate everybody Equally. Everybody equally. I don't hate this person any more than I hate this person. I hate just everybody equally.
[00:26:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Everybody equally annoys the shit out of you.
[00:26:29] Duuude-Ron :
That's right. So, you know, I could never be called racist because I hated everybody equally. Right. You're just a if you're a dumbass, you're a dumbass. You know? Doesn't matter what color skin that the where you've come doesn't matter. If you're a dumbass, you're a dumbass. Right.
[00:26:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:52] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, I I think I'm gonna have to if I have a good guess, I bet you this, this lady's gonna probably pop up on Brett Cooper show here within the next couple three days. And so we'll get a we'll get a new, a a different view. And I bet you Brett Cooper likes to kinda dig a little bit, and something tells me this is this is this is, fabricated.
[00:27:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, again,
[00:27:23] Bryan Goodwin:
she fucked around and found out how Oh, yeah. I mean, if she it's true. She found out hard. She got at at the end, the lady on that on that video who did the stitch of it, just like, baby, it looks like you just got doged.
[00:27:37] Duuude-Ron :
So Yes. Yes. You just got doged. And, you know, how many people are just disgusted with her? You know, there's okay. There's a what? You said she has a 99,000 followers? 19. Yeah. 19. Okay. How many of those you think actually think like her?
[00:28:11] Bryan Goodwin:
I, you know, not a % sure.
[00:28:15] Duuude-Ron :
I guarantee you probably 80% of her audience just let just listens for the, what's the word zone? What words I'm looking for? The, not the annoying factor. The the drama factor. The, yeah, the drama, the shock factor. The Yeah. That's probably the only reason why she has those followers is for for the shock value. Right. And and then I'm sure that they're fucking rolling their eyes. And it's like, you know what? You just need to shut the hell up. Yep. I don't and I you have it's
[00:28:57] Bryan Goodwin:
more than likely I would have to say, guys. I just I don't know. I bet you come coming this next week, we're gonna we're gonna come up we're gonna find a lot more information from this gal. So or about this gal. So
[00:29:17] Duuude-Ron :
well, if it comes up on my Facebook feed, you know, I'll see it, but I sure the hell ain't gonna fucking go
[00:29:27] Bryan Goodwin:
go pursue it. Oh, come on.
[00:29:31] Duuude-Ron :
I'll I'll put it to you like this. I won't pursue it because you're already there. You can just update me and give me the, you know, the highlight. Oh, okay. That's all I need is the highlights. I don't I got enough fucking drama in my life. No. You never have enough drama, man. I don't know what you're talking about. I know. That, you know, I don't need to hear about anybody. I don't give a fuck about anybody else's drama. I got I got enough of of my own to last me a lifetime. So
[00:30:12] Bryan Goodwin:
so what else is going on in y'all's world? No. That's a damn good question. Wow. I am blown away. I mean, not everybody talk at once.
[00:30:27] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. No shit. Other than work, which is, you know, pretty much the same day in, day out, just have to deal with, deal with fucking idiots. Yeah. I got behind a, a dually hauling a car carrier and on 36 coming back from Abilene. And this there was nobody behind me. Nobody behind me. But they had to pull out in front of me. Well, yeah. And then do 55 in a 70. Alright. You could've just fucking waited for me to go by, and then it you wanna if you wanna fucking dick around, knock yourself out.
[00:31:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Just do it behind me. But they then they would have to drive faster.
[00:31:30] Rich Chelson:
You fucking think?
[00:31:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Because they'd have to try to keep up with you.
[00:31:36] Duuude-Ron :
I don't care.
[00:31:38] Bryan Goodwin:
If they had to try to keep up friend to be what to to go with them. They were going to get off the jeered.
[00:31:44] Duuude-Ron :
And the trailer was fucking that they were hauling was empty.
[00:31:48] Bryan Goodwin:
It's like, god. You know what? It's not like the fucking didn't even have any animals to keep them company. They needed you.
[00:32:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. If you gotta fucking drive on the road. And I'm governed. So I'm already five miles an hour under the speed limit. Well, I can't help it. And I had a semi, you know, was trying to pass me, and there was a long stretch. And why he didn't pass me on that long stretch is beyond me. And then he was edging on the line, So I just put the hazard lights on and fucking let him see and wave him forward and slow down. It's like, you know what? Just yeah. Get the fuck around me. And he was then I lost sight of him until there was till the two lane went down to one lane.
And, you know, you have flagmen stopping you. So I was three vehicles behind him sitting there. Oh, yeah. So yeah. I just hope to hell, and I know I'm not hoping. I know that I will never when I fucking hit in my seventies and eighties, will never drive like that.
[00:33:33] Bryan Goodwin:
He Rich, you know who how he's gonna drive whenever he turns eleventy. Right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's gonna be doing 25 in the 70. Yep. In his Jeep. Because you can't have the you can't have the Jeep the Jeep, you know, side to side rocking anymore because, you know, oh, oh, my my my tip over.
[00:33:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't fucking think so. I'll be doing 75 in the 70, honking my horn wanting to get
[00:34:07] Bryan Goodwin:
get the fuck out of my way. You're gonna have one of those you're gonna have a bird that's strapped to to the top of your Jeep, so all you have to do is pull a cord and it
[00:34:20] Duuude-Ron :
You lost me on that one.
[00:34:23] Bryan Goodwin:
You gotta pull a cord down. You're gonna have you're gonna have a big old number one finger coming up.
[00:34:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there you go. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. As a matter of fact, one day, there's only really one more modification that I wanna put on my Jeep. And one day, I will do that because a friend of mine works at a railroad,
[00:34:45] Bryan Goodwin:
and he's already owes me Oh, you want some train horns?
[00:34:48] Duuude-Ron :
He owes me a set of train horns because he said he had some that he would give me. So one of these days, I'm gonna get a set of five train horns, put them up underneath my j or my Jeep. You know, I'll drill a hole and put them on the frame so that they don't get damaged as I'm wheeling. I won't fucking get a train horn for my fucking Jeep. You're in my way. I'll blast that motherfucker.
[00:35:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Scary shit real. Train horns, just know that your your even your air tanks. If you blast your air tanks or blast a and a real train horn with your with a semi truck air tanks, you'll drain that son of a bitch down about 65, PSI, if not lower, for just a quick blow. So you you wanna have a lot of air. So you might have to drive around with a compressor in your back seat connected up to a a power inverter. Watch them driving around.
[00:35:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. You will you will need a,
[00:36:00] Bryan Goodwin:
a A lot of freaking air.
[00:36:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. For for an actual set of train horns, yeah, your the the air tank alone would would, take up the back of your Jeep. And that's that's not counting a compressor that that has to be attached to it to supply the air because just the truck, the regular semi, train horns that are air powered, yeah, those will those will drop, drop you down ten, fifteen pounds for about a two second blast.
[00:36:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, really? Yeah. And stuff like that. They do have, electric train horns. Basically, what it does is it's just a big it's a it's a powerful fan that moves the air through the horn trumpets.
[00:36:49] Duuude-Ron :
Well, maybe I could put those fans on all the trumpets. There you go. Just. Something like that.
[00:36:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because, on when I drove a big truck, I had a set of train horns, and they were the actual air powered.
[00:37:04] Duuude-Ron :
And Uh-huh.
[00:37:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Just a quick blast, and I would lose 10 pounds of air. And it's Oh, wow. Yeah. Just a. Just that. And I lost 10 pounds of air.
[00:37:18] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. Because I know that my primary tank is probably and they're right in front of my drive tires. I'd say they're probably two feet wide by about 14 inches from side to side.
[00:37:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's, they'll do a, they'll do a, truck set, but not an actual train horn set.
[00:37:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Apparently, you can buy some some super loud train. I don't know how well they actual work, but according to the YouTube videos, they're and there are a lot of people kinda like them, but, for about, 20 anywhere from 20 to $50.
[00:38:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I've seen them as well. I thought about that, but it's like, you know what? I'll just, since the one guy owes me some train horns, I'll I'll rig I'll get the Rigbrothers to help me and, you know, set up those horns.
[00:38:29] Rich Chelson:
Well well, you do know you can tune train horns. Right?
[00:38:34] Duuude-Ron :
I had no clue.
[00:38:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You adjust the bells. The the, the tubes are called bells.
[00:38:44] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Okay.
[00:38:45] Rich Chelson:
Turn them, in or out to to adjust the tone.
[00:38:52] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:38:54] Rich Chelson:
Because, yeah, I'm just Well, I just wanna Just throw them on and just screw them down tight, and it's more of a high pitched. If you want it deeper, you, roll it out a little bit.
[00:39:05] Duuude-Ron :
I just wanna get get your fucking attention, especially if you're on the goddamn cell phone.
[00:39:12] Bryan Goodwin:
What's fun also is, go off and get one of those horns that's actually got a voice recording. You can actually record your voice on it. Wow. And use that. Get the fuck out of the way.
[00:39:31] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. They used to have, you know, the speakers through the CVs too. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I've I got my new truck and my old truck, and my old, old truck didn't have a CB. But the new truck has a CB. I ain't even fucking hooked it up yet and turned it on.
[00:39:57] Rich Chelson:
Why not? But I don't know.
[00:40:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because I'm lazy, I guess. Okay. Probably probably because I wanna fucking once I get my damn load, I wanna get on the fucking road.
[00:40:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I don't I don't have a radio anymore just because I can't stand the damn funny channel. Damn thing has got so much freaking garbage and shit on there. You can't hear anybody talk. And everybody's talking about not having panties on and and and white buffalos in a brown paper bag and other bullshit. And he's like, no. No. Thank you.
[00:40:33] Rich Chelson:
Don't care. I
[00:40:35] Duuude-Ron :
take it that's channel nineteen? Yep. That's your damn funny channel. Yeah. Okay. No. The only thing that I would and fuck. I don't even need it for that is, you know, for traffic. You know? Do you know, truckers say they're going northbound, and, hey, if you're going southbound on 35, you got an accident here, you know, truck's burning up
[00:41:00] Bryan Goodwin:
type. Yeah. The sad part is is hardly anybody has I mean, you really can't most truck drivers are are very few of them actually have c b's anymore, and all you've got are the damn base stations that sit there and flood everybody with all their bullshit.
[00:41:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You don't get traffic reports or cop reports anymore on a CB.
[00:41:22] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. No. And, you know That's been gone. And that's you know, I could fucking pull up Google map and it'll show me that that the fucking road is red. That means the traffic has stopped. Right. Okay. For how long? You know, half a mile, third of a mile, two miles.
[00:41:42] Bryan Goodwin:
10
[00:41:43] Duuude-Ron :
miles. Yeah. So, yeah, I can get the information just as well off of fucking Google Maps Right. For that matter. You know? And eventually, if I pass it, I'll see what the hell is going on like this. They had a truck. It was a couple weeks ago coming onto an exit ramp, and the fucking, the crushed barriers before cement wall. Probably about I'd say that thing used to be a good 20 feet. Now it's about four, if that, because it is all smashed to hell. And that truck was on the going up the ramp, and there was a, a cement wall on either side. And the truck was over the cement wall, going back onto the interstate, which was only about probably three feet high.
So once he hit that that freaking, that guardrail or the smash barrier, he just went to fucking all just yeah. And by the time I passed it, the only thing left of the truck was the frame and the engine, and, obviously, the metal suspension. That was all that was left of that the tractor. Trailer was on its side. The trailer was on its side. It had it the trailer didn't catch fire, but you could see where the fire from the truck affected the trailer.
[00:43:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So it started melting the trailer too?
[00:43:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I guess so. It the front part of the trailer, it was black. So it was getting soot and whatever from the tractor and the heat. Okay. You know? But it it never looked like the trailer actually combusted. Yeah. That did not look good at all. And that one was backed up probably, oh, couple miles. Yeah. Well and because they had it down to fucking, the interstate, you there was only one lane on the interstate all the way on the left hand side because they had all the the firefighting vehicles, you know, that it just Right. Yeah. Extinguished the fire. They were on the interstate because the tractor was hanging over that wall.
Oh. And then when I got by, they were lifting it up or just started to lift it up. But, yeah, frame, engine, and chassis were the only things left. Yeah. It was kinda
[00:44:50] Bryan Goodwin:
ugly. I'm like Yeah. Sounds like it.
[00:44:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That guy was having a very, very bad day.
[00:44:57] Bryan Goodwin:
It sounds like it for sure.
[00:45:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I think if I had that happen to me, they'd probably fire me. We do not need your driving skills anymore for this, company, so you just have yourself a wonderful day. Goodbye now. Goodbye. Goodbye.
[00:45:18] Bryan Goodwin:
So good, boss.
[00:45:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Sure thing, boss. So we got I don't know what the weather is like where you're at, Brian, but it let's see. I think our high today was 45. 30 mile an hour gusting winds. Went up to Abilene, it was 36 with probably 10 mile an hour winds. Fucking cold. So then, I guess, the Abilene shuttle could not go up to was it Amarillo? Yeah. I believe it was Amarillo because the Amarillo facility was shut down because there was ice on the road.
[00:46:05] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shit.
[00:46:07] Bryan Goodwin:
That's normal for Amarillo. What do you mean? We can't work. We got we got weather.
[00:46:15] Duuude-Ron :
Like Well, shit. Ain't no fucking place in fucking Texas gonna work if there's ice on the ground because they got no equipment whatsoever to support it. We drove just
[00:46:26] Bryan Goodwin:
we drove all over all over the place.
[00:46:29] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. So up in that Emerald area there?
[00:46:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Emerald, I'm I know that, Alexis, was, was out and about in it. And, I mean, hell, OKC was a skate rink all the way over to Shawnee. And, yeah, you just had to just go slow. Oh. Only thing that sucked is, you know, there's a couple times where you had to try to wiggle your way over to a, over to the rumble strips over on the shoulder on some of the hills because lose traction is kinda no. No. No. No. Okay. There we go. We're going. We're going. We're going. We're going. No. Where am I gonna make it?
[00:47:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Those are always fun. Those are always fun.
[00:47:17] Bryan Goodwin:
So that's, that's the most terrorizing thing.
[00:47:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And, you know, I'll go I'll go out in there. I say, I got no problem with that if I'm in my Jeep. I'm not.
[00:47:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I ain't doing a tractor trailer on that shit. That's I know I know I know I know more weight. You'd be actually you're a little safer being on there with the with the with all them with all them tires making contact and all the you know, having, you know, gross weight of 80,000 pounds just as long as they're going slow.
[00:47:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But I I try to always make sure that, you know, based upon what I see on the truck, you know, if I'm gonna have 26 pallets or if I'm gonna have 22 pallets, you know, based upon, you know, how many big cylinders I have versus how many small medical cylinders or VGLs, which are the cryogenic liquid containers.
[00:48:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay. You know? So we know that that was gonna be your laughing gas. It was very VGL was very good laughers.
[00:48:22] Duuude-Ron :
So No. Actually, VGL, from what we use that acronym, are the valves, vent, gas, liquid. Those those are the three valves that are on the vessel. Gotcha. So we just commonly call them that, but the their actual name is from the inventor, which is a Dewer, d e w e r. Yeah. Dewer. That that's the name of them because that's who invented it. Who invented it. Yeah. The Durer valve. Yeah. Well, or the vessel and, you know, the the vacuum aspect and all that stuff to keep the liquid liquid and you know? Yeah. Because that angular vacuum because there's actually two, vessels. There's the outer shell, and then there's one on the inside.
And there's about two inches of space all the way around Right. That
[00:49:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Because vacuums don't transmit, heat very well. So
[00:49:33] Duuude-Ron :
Well and it it keeps the liquid in a liquid state versus burning it into gas.
[00:49:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Precisely. Yeah.
[00:49:41] Duuude-Ron :
So and you have to have a I can't remember. It's been so long ago since I worked on those, what the vacuum rate is, but we have to get it down to point zero negative point zero zero one
[00:50:02] Bryan Goodwin:
for a vacuum. That's a hundredth of an atmosphere.
[00:50:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Basically, space.
[00:50:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Mhmm.
[00:50:11] Duuude-Ron :
And that just keeps the liquid from boiling.
[00:50:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[00:50:15] Duuude-Ron :
And, of course, boiling for oxygen is negative negative one forty nine is the boiling point where it turns into gas. Oh, okay.
[00:50:28] Bryan Goodwin:
So and then all The only thing I really know about liquid oxygen is that it's actually a really pretty color blue.
[00:50:38] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yep.
[00:50:42] Duuude-Ron :
It's always what? The liquid itself?
[00:50:44] Bryan Goodwin:
The liquid itself. Yeah. Liquid oxygen is actually blue.
[00:50:49] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, wow. Well, when it comes out the vent, it's white, but it's also at that point in time, it's already trying to turn back into a gaseous state. Right. Yeah. So you don't see the blue. It's just white. But I did I didn't know that oxygen liquid oxygen was blue. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:51:14] Bryan Goodwin:
That's my random fact of the day.
[00:51:18] Duuude-Ron :
So there we go. I'm glad I'm glad we got that cleared up. I would I would honestly not have been able to sleep tonight. Well, you know, if I did not know that random fact. Well, sometimes, you know, you don't know enough to know that you don't know. Ain't that a bitch? I know it is.
[00:51:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So so, Rich, how about you? What have you done today?
[00:51:47] Rich Chelson:
I just did a couple paintings.
[00:51:49] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah? So what,
[00:51:52] Bryan Goodwin:
how many are you up to now?
[00:51:55] Rich Chelson:
Shit. I don't know. I haven't counted them. I've got well, I got four canvases. I got the two I did earlier this week, and they should be about, dry enough to handle more. Okay. And then the two I just did today, and one of them because, you know, I'd I had told y'all I had gotten, I had gotten a lot of or some new paints. Well Yeah. One set of the new paints I got, and it kinda bummed me out because I was really liking the colors ahead. It was a box of 24 different colors. And, I went to start mixing them, and they had gotten froze
[00:52:40] Bryan Goodwin:
because Oh, yeah. You don't freeze. Don't get don't let,
[00:52:45] Rich Chelson:
No. And and it wasn't me. This this is the way I got them. You know? But when I went to mixing them, yeah, it was it was like curdled milk.
[00:52:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It It's chunky. Frozen frozen, acrylic just is nasty.
[00:53:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And so, I still went and you know, I mean, I had, like, four or five colors mixed and because, you know, I was I was hoping it would, you know, smooth out and stuff. And and then I went to pour it, and it was like, yeah. That's not gonna work. So I took some paper.
[00:53:25] Duuude-Ron :
Can you smash can you smash them out and make it smooth?
[00:53:30] Rich Chelson:
No. No? Okay. No. No. When when acrylic paint paint freezes and and you go and try and use it, yeah, it's done. You just can't. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So when I had this lumpy mess of different colors on the canvas, I was like, yeah. That's not gonna work. So I took paper towels, and I scraped it all off. Scraped all of it off. Clean the canvas and got a second picture, on on on my Facebook page, not the first one with the purple, the second one.
[00:54:13] Duuude-Ron :
With all the black?
[00:54:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, the black and the different colors.
[00:54:18] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[00:54:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that was that messed up canvas that I wiped off and redid.
[00:54:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Because there's a there's a lot of black on that second one.
[00:54:34] Rich Chelson:
Kind of. Not really. I mean, it's got it's got a good range of,
[00:54:40] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. It looks like a big yeah. It looked like a big big flower.
[00:54:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. But, but, yeah, I did that, and I see. I got one, two, three, four, five, six. I think I got 10 of them now altogether.
[00:55:04] Bryan Goodwin:
So I was sitting here reading. Reading. Is there any way to save a rescue paint? And one of the things says, when is it too late? If the texture of the paint is stringy, lumpier, looks like hot as cheese. It's like, oh, there he goes. Nope. That's dead. So Yes. And so
[00:55:21] Rich Chelson:
so, I have to go to the UPS store tomorrow and, take this box of paints back and ship them back to Amazon, and I'm gonna get a refund. I'm gonna buy my paints from somewhere else.
[00:55:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, that no. That's good that they're giving you a refund for it. Oh, yeah. They yeah. Because they it just you know, I had,
[00:55:45] Rich Chelson:
you know, I was just you know, I was bummed out. You know? I'm like, alright. Fine. Screw y'all. Y'all wanna do that because, you know, because they, you know, some of these newer colors, I don't know. I just I just liked them. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. And I was wanting to try them out, and, yeah, it it didn't work. He it I mean, it made a just a mess and a half. I looked looked like a five year old in paint class,
[00:56:18] Duuude-Ron :
which, I mean, that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. You know? But No. There's you know, I'm sure that there are, you know, famous artists that have well, look at fucking what's his name's Jackson Pollock. Look at what's his name's soup cans, and they sell for fucking millions of dollars.
[00:56:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I just I just I just pulled it off, pulled all the paint off, wiped the canvas down, and poured right on right back on top of it.
[00:56:51] Bryan Goodwin:
That's that's the best thing. I mean, hell, that you've got artists have been known to reuse canvases multiple times.
[00:56:58] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. And and and, yeah, that's, you know, that's the thing. When when I was looking at this, you know, they're saying, you know, if you mess up, just fucking repaint over it. Or Yeah. You know, if it's still wet enough, wipe it off and redo it. You know? Change it. Yep. And that's yourself a squeegee. You can just But I will say I do like pouring on canvas more than I like pouring on canvas panels. Because, well, the the one with all the purple
[00:57:34] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. Yeah.
[00:57:36] Rich Chelson:
That one? Nah. I spun the fuck out of that motherfucker. Oh, I I mean, yeah, that that thing was going probably, I don't know, twenty, thirty revolutions per minute, if not more. I mean, I spun that bitch. And then it it slowed down and stopped, and I spun it the other way. Oh, yeah. I was I was I was having fun with the spinning.
[00:58:05] Duuude-Ron :
Well, now you just need to get a fucking drill. See how fast of a spin you can get with that.
[00:58:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, I need to keep I need to keep some color on the on canvass area. You know? I mean I mean, the goal is to leave some of the paint on the canvas. Okay.
[00:58:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Well That might there is this might be something you wanna look into. I don't know I don't know what they cost. I mean, I'm sure they're probably not cheap, but jewelers use they'll make, like, wax wax, copies of the ring, and they'll make molds out of them. And then they'll they'll, put liquid, you know, liquid metal, you know, liquid they'll heat up silver and liquefy it and put it in this in the crucible or whatever, you call it, and they will have a centrifugal, spinner. And they'll they'll sit there, spin it, wind it up, melt the, melt the the the, silver or gold down, and then they'll they'll let the the the spinner go. It's just spring it's loaded up with spring tension, and it'll sit there and it'll spin for for however long it needs to spin until all the, all the liquid metal goes into the, into the mold. And because it's hot and the mold itself, is made of wax, the wax gets burnt up, disappears, and it fills in all the crevices.
And, yeah, it's a it's a cool little way of doing it. And so you might be able to find something where you can do something like that, where you can spin it, you know, wind it up till it, till a certain level, and, you know, you know, you might find out that doing seven turns is enough to is fast enough, and then you set the, you you set the brake on it and add set your, your canvas down on there and then release the brake and just let it go to town.
[01:00:18] Rich Chelson:
Okay. I'm
[01:00:19] Duuude-Ron :
lost. Oh, let's see if I can find it.
[01:00:24] Rich Chelson:
Thanks. I'm not I'm not I I I'm not I for some reason, I'm not I'm not catching the concept.
[01:00:34] Duuude-Ron :
Well, the mold well, with the mold, they've heated up the Jewelry kits. The mold itself. And within the mold, obviously, you have with the ring, you have a lot of, crevice that need to get filled. And when you pour in the liquid with it spinning, it forces the liquid to fill up all those cavities on that spin.
[01:01:06] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But but how would that work on painting?
[01:01:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, instead of having the the the well, here. I'll let me throw this up on here. Where the fuck's my DMC? Yep. Alright. I'm sure instead of you just doing it by hand,
[01:01:23] Duuude-Ron :
you get the tension, let it go, and then it makes its own speed.
[01:01:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, and that's you could what you could do is you could probably just take the, the the winding part, the part that's just spring mount or spring tension. Like a clock. Yeah. Like a clock. You would wind it up. Now, what it typically does is it's got it's casting. And so one end has got the the cast, you got a counterweight on the other end. So what you'd be able to do is just take the, take the arm that is being slung around, take it off, put, you know, put a a a some type of locker onto it, you know, something that would hold the the frame, you know, however you wanted to do it, and be they'd be able to spin it, and it would be able to spin however fast you want it. And so, it's just something I was thinking, but, you know, it's Okay.
[01:02:25] Rich Chelson:
I mean okay. Because you see what I'm using now is, like, is like is like base, basically a small
[01:02:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Lazy Susan. Susan.
[01:02:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And and and, you know, I don't I don't always spin things fast because I don't always, you know, I don't always need to spread paint,
[01:02:46] Bryan Goodwin:
you know A hundred miles an hour. Exactly. You don't need to fling it 20 feet.
[01:02:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:02:51] Duuude-Ron :
No. Yeah. No. So leaves like I said, like Rich said, leave some paint on the canvas. Canvas. Exactly.
[01:03:00] Rich Chelson:
But but, no, it it just and and say, like, some like, say, what is it? Say, with the first one, did I tilt that one? I don't know. No. No. No. That one, I spun. That one, I spun the shit out of it, and it actually spread it out pretty well. The second one, no, I spun it, but I didn't spin it too fast. And I I spun it multiple times to spread the paint out because I wanted to keep the shape of the flowers. Right. See? So so whichever way I'm doing it, it depends on how fast or how hard I spin it. That might be something you try. What's that?
[01:03:45] Bryan Goodwin:
What if you've got your pour paint set up Mhmm. But instead of dumping it and then spinning, what if you started spinning and as it was spinning, you poured onto the canvas?
[01:03:57] Rich Chelson:
You know, I kinda thought about that today, but I I haven't I just haven't thought through it
[01:04:09] Duuude-Ron :
yet. And I think that would turn that would turn more into a, I think, tie dye aspect.
[01:04:17] Bryan Goodwin:
It might. It might be a whole bunch of little bitties little bitty circles or might be a great big circle that goes into a tiny little bitty circle back out into I don't know. I don't know how it would turn out depending on how fat of a of a poor stream you did. Right. Well well, and see I mean, there's so many different, variables in that that you I mean, one, you'll never have the same picture picture twice.
[01:04:40] Rich Chelson:
No. No. And and see and see the thing is, you know, I I, you know, I don't have to pour just in the center. I could start on the outer edge and move it around and go in, you know, or whatever. Just go side to side as it's spinning, whatever. You know, I could change it up. But speaking of tie dye, I will tell you when I mixed up those, frozen frozen acrylics and I poured them colors on and everything hoping they'd work out, and I was as I was pouring them, I was looking at it, and I thought of you and dude thinking because it looked like a freaking thrown up tie dye t shirt with all the loans. I think
[01:05:28] Duuude-Ron :
I think you should've kept it.
[01:05:30] Rich Chelson:
And we lost Brian.
[01:05:33] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. Well, he said he was in an iffy area.
[01:05:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's I I kinda thought for about five seconds about to keep it, but
[01:05:46] Duuude-Ron :
It just had too many lots, lumps.
[01:05:49] Rich Chelson:
Way too many chunks, man. I was Oh, okay. I mean, yeah, it was just yeah. It it it never would have dried.
[01:05:57] Duuude-Ron :
So I was Oh, okay. Okay.
[01:06:00] Bryan Goodwin:
And it burns me back. Damn it. I know. Right? Yeah. You gotta you gotta stop talking about me now.
[01:06:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. You're right. No. I'm I'm not gonna talk when you're not there. I wanna talk about you talk bad about you so you can hear it. Are you kidding me?
[01:06:21] Rich Chelson:
But
[01:06:22] Duuude-Ron :
no What fun is it what fun is it to talk about somebody behind their back if they can't hear it? What's the enjoyment?
[01:06:28] Bryan Goodwin:
I know. Exactly.
[01:06:30] Rich Chelson:
Right. Exactly. But no, yeah, I did. I, like I said, I thought for a few seconds about about spinning the
[01:06:41] Duuude-Ron :
the blank canvas and pouring,
[01:06:44] Rich Chelson:
you know, on that.
[01:06:47] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[01:06:48] Rich Chelson:
So I don't know. I might, we'll see. We'll see what happens tomorrow. I might I might try and do something tomorrow.
[01:06:59] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when I was a kid, I had one of those that, that spinner where you could you know, where the canvas would be spinning and then you pour the paints and it, yeah, it looked like a tie dye. You know, I had one of those things as a kid.
[01:07:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. We used to do that with T shirts. We'd get a bunch of white T shirts and get, cloth paints. And, we would make our design on there, and then we would go to Xyng and see see if we could sling all the paint off. And, boy, it made some made some cool designs. That was the that was the head of, of of fun day in Sunray for, I don't know, two, three years.
[01:07:40] Rich Chelson:
Oh my gosh. That That was it. That made everybody's day in Sunray.
[01:07:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Hell, yeah. Everybody had a had a had paint a shirt that had paint that was slung all over it and stuff. And,
[01:07:54] Duuude-Ron :
you know, it's The only thing I've done with tie dye is with the rubber bands.
[01:07:59] Bryan Goodwin:
I have wanted to try that, but at the same time, I'm, like, going, fuck. That is a lot of freaking and I've watched guys who do this, and they'll take not just rubber bands, but they take string, and they they pinch right here, and then they tie do a couple little, you know, almost like the castration rubber bands. They they get a dull tool and then there we go. Put that on there and then put
[01:08:22] Rich Chelson:
right there. Oh, yeah.
[01:08:24] Bryan Goodwin:
And, then they go off and they scrunch things up, and they start wrapping, start wrapping, start wrapping, and wrap over here and over here and wrap it this way and then down. And it'll come up and it'll be this, you know, just gnarled up piece of of of of, material. And then they'll alright. Well, we're gonna put a little line of blue down here and a little line of green and a little and, I mean, they'll just line, line, line. They'll dip some into it and others, and then they get finished and it pulls out, and all of a sudden, you've got the, you've got the Grateful Dead Bear face in there. And it's like, how the hell did you just pull that out of here?
[01:09:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, some of them, you know, just based upon where they do the rubber bands and the string and all that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fucking amazing. Fucking and they actually a you a true design comes out of the way they did that, like you said, that the bear.
[01:09:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You'll get the grateful dead bear or the pot leaf or or a daisy or a fly you know, something. It's like, crime initally, my gassed is flabbered, man. It was just insane. Your gas is flabbered. My gassed, you know, instead of flabbergasted.
[01:09:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I yeah. Well, I knew what you meant. I knew what you meant. My gassed is flabbered.
[01:09:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Okay.
[01:09:53] Duuude-Ron :
That's the big $20 phrase for this episode.
[01:09:59] Bryan Goodwin:
My guess is one of those good that's one of those good old timey words that you don't hear very much anymore.
[01:10:06] Rich Chelson:
That is true. Oh, I know.
[01:10:10] Duuude-Ron :
We need to bring that I've never now I've never heard that phrase that your gas is
[01:10:15] Bryan Goodwin:
labored. Oh, no. No. No. That's just something, something me and I I use from time to time. I heard an old, an old friend of mine, old Wendy Sullivan. She said that several times, but I just I thought it was hilarious every time she said it, and so I I took it on as my own.
[01:10:32] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there you go. Stealing somebody else's,
[01:10:35] Bryan Goodwin:
you know Well, I give her I give her credit. Wendy Sullivan, the brass when she was on when she was doing Brass Balls Radio.
[01:10:45] Duuude-Ron :
Brass Balls Radio.
[01:10:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. It was a it was a a great, great podcast. It was she's back when Wendy lived up in Canada and stuff, and so she was, you know, freeze the brass balls off a monkey. But, so it was brass balls radio is what they called it, BBR. And, yeah, she she's up there. She would talk about what was happening. She would talk about current events and stuff. And at that time, it was whenever I was listening to it, she it was back when, Obama was in office. And so she was she would talk about, about, you know, what was happening there, what was happening over in, in, in in Quebec, which is where she was living, and, talked about how tough it was to, to work there if you were not a natural French French speaking, person because they do not like you if you do not speak French. You are an outsider and an invader, and they do not want you. And they treat you like hammered dog shit.
And, yeah. So, yeah, Quebec is about as snooty as any other French place is.
[01:11:59] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, that's good. I've only been to Petawawa,
[01:12:04] Bryan Goodwin:
and I'd have to look it up for where. I don't know. Or So so are you gonna tell us? How do you pet a Wawa?
[01:12:10] Duuude-Ron :
I don't have a fucking clue.
[01:12:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you you would you just said you pet a Wawa. Yeah. I was in Peta Wawa. Brick building, so I figured that would kinda be rough on your hands. Pet Wawa's and stuff.
[01:12:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:12:27] Bryan Goodwin:
It wasn't it was, yeah. Or it was we talking you petting Wawa's, you know?
[01:12:35] Duuude-Ron :
No. Just jumping out of a Canadian airplane. Okay. With
[01:12:41] Bryan Goodwin:
a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with
[01:12:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. With a Canadian harness called the style of death.
[01:12:51] Bryan Goodwin:
God. That What it do? Crunch go dot crunchers?
[01:12:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. The all the all the points that, for the leg straps, the body straps, so on like that, all came into a central point right there where your diaphragm was at. Oh, wow. And then you have the reserve on that, and you got like, my leg straps, I always had to have them real tight. Why? So I did not catch a nut.
[01:13:23] Bryan Goodwin:
That Right. Yeah. No. I understand that. Yeah. That would be But that You wouldn't have that deep baritone. You'd be singing soprano.
[01:13:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But that, what was it? It was arms because you had the shoulder straps, the body straps, the leg straps all coming into that central point, and then the reserve sitting on top of that. Oh my god. That fucking hurt. Yes. And that's why they called it a dial of death Dial of death. Harness. Thank god we in The United States, didn't have them.
[01:14:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's kinda like, oh, that got me to thinking of a of a
[01:14:17] Duuude-Ron :
I don't remember if if I heard Mama saying bees. Daddy sing tenor
[01:14:22] Bryan Goodwin:
together. Yeah. I've heard it. Yeah. I've heard that song. That yeah. No. It's just no. So, you know, all of a sudden, you sing in soprano. I was like, yeah. Yeah. We can and then and then Ron Ron sang and Ron sang tenor.
[01:14:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That no. Thank you. I got I had that happen one time. One time.
[01:14:45] Rich Chelson:
And you were?
[01:14:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god. The whole 800 feet down to the ground. I wasn't I wasn't concentrating on that the chute had opened, which it did because I was floating and had a weight. And that that that all the way to the ground, the only thing I was trying to do was Push. Move that leg strap. I gotta adjust. I gotta adjust. I gotta adjust.
[01:15:12] Bryan Goodwin:
And that so bump. That's it. Just wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.
[01:15:16] Duuude-Ron :
Then that never happened again because I made sure that it was tight when I put it on. You could feel your pulse in your thighs.
[01:15:26] Bryan Goodwin:
So
[01:15:28] Duuude-Ron :
yeah, it was not a it was not a pleasant experience. Not.
[01:15:38] Bryan Goodwin:
From 10,000 feet up in there, you heard
[01:15:45] Duuude-Ron :
a Just a scream all the way down. Yeah. Screaming like a little bitch all the way down.
[01:15:58] Bryan Goodwin:
So, Rich, the what how what's been happening in the land of, of ham radios?
[01:16:05] Rich Chelson:
Honestly, I don't know. I I, I've been I've been concentrating on my painting and playing the piano.
[01:16:13] Bryan Goodwin:
So what song you've learned doing on piano now?
[01:16:16] Rich Chelson:
I'm still working on, Piano Man. Oh, okay. It's I mean, it's For someone who knows how to play piano, it's not a hard song. But for someone who doesn't know much and I'm learning, you know, I mean, I I can read a lot of the music, but getting the timing down and getting the notes timed right is is my challenge.
[01:16:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:16:41] Rich Chelson:
I mean, as far as the notes and and the melody and everything with the chords, it's it's pretty much straightforward. It's a fairly easy song, but my whole thing is timing. You know? Because, Right. I don't well, I just I don't move fast. And this song needs to move a little faster than what I'm playing it at right now.
[01:17:07] Duuude-Ron :
So You know what you need to try also? What? Smoke on the water.
[01:17:17] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Hang on. Smoke on the water on piano.
[01:17:23] Duuude-Ron :
Why not?
[01:17:25] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I'm I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying that it can't be played. And and it and it has been played, I bet, on piano. But I just don't think it would sound right, to be honest with you. But that's my I I don't know. I haven't tried it.
[01:17:41] Bryan Goodwin:
And and you could be real good. Try to see if you could do rush e.
[01:17:49] Duuude-Ron :
Well, put some, you know, smoke on the water with the piano, put a little bit of reverb in it. Gee. How unique would that sound? I've got a reverb, bud. So I bet you do.
[01:18:02] Rich Chelson:
I mean I don't know. I'm still I you know, I'm still I'm still learning things. So, you know, as far as as far as improvisation or or or, composing anything,
[01:18:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I'm not there yet. You're not there yet. So No. Not there yet. Doing improvisational
[01:18:24] Rich Chelson:
jazz as of yet. So No. A little ways to go. But but I've been showed a few techniques that, you know, I'm working on trying. The hardest thing is trying to because, you know, some days my hands just don't wanna work. But, like, you know, when I do a scale and, you know, if I do a scale with my left hand, I stretch an octave. So if I play a c, a lower c, I I play the next octave up of a c. And then I've got a chord to play with my right hand, and it's a a CDG, CFG, or BCG. And but I can't get my left hand to flow between, all the notes yet from from the lower c to the higher c.
Well, it'll eventually happen. Yeah. No. No. It will. I'm not, you know, I'm not saying it as a bad thing or anything. It just it just takes time to because, you know, I gotta figure it out. Well, hell, I just I just learned I just learned how to play a b flat chord, and that's a challenge because it's your fingers, when you play the, b flat chord, it's weird. Well, it is for me because yeah. Because,
[01:19:56] Duuude-Ron :
see, it's unflat. Then unflatten the b.
[01:19:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Sharpen it up. Come on.
[01:20:03] Duuude-Ron :
Or at least put a little bit of a, you know, a bubble to it. Right? Put a little bit of a little bit. It up some.
[01:20:10] Rich Chelson:
Now see, that's the thing. In in this, I need I need to be flat because when you're playing the f scale, you know, like the c scale is, it starts with c d e f g a b c. Right? Right. When you play the f scale Sure. It's f g a. And instead of a b, you play a b flat, which is a black key, and you have to twist your hand for that and then go over to the c d e f for the f scale. Okay? And that that that black key is to b flat. Okay? And so and so and so when you're playing chords, with your left hand, you play a a f chord, c, d, d minor, and then and then the last chord is is a, b flat chord.
And you can't really brighten it up because it I tried it. It don't sound right. It just, yeah, it just doesn't sound right. So
[01:21:23] Duuude-Ron :
Well, one day one day, you will be Liberace junior.
[01:21:29] Bryan Goodwin:
He will have the, the flash, the the the fur capes and all.
[01:21:35] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. There you go.
[01:21:38] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I was more like about the fluid of the hands, but if you if you wanna have a I don't wanna know what type of fluid he's got on his hands. I'm sorry. No. Neither trust me. Neither do I, but I'm sure he's not gonna play with fucking big ass rings. You know? No. Diamonds and rubies and emeralds with a cape and you know?
[01:22:01] Rich Chelson:
No. No.
[01:22:03] Duuude-Ron :
That would be interesting to see, but, you know
[01:22:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. That would be
[01:22:11] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. Be all be all cosmetic jewelry because you sure sure the hell ain't gonna be able to afford the real shit.
[01:22:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Right?
[01:22:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I had to go I had to go pay $59 to, believe it or not, file a tax return this year just because Oh, yeah? Just because I sold my house last year.
[01:22:36] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. And, yeah, your cap yeah. Your capital gains and all that?
[01:22:43] Rich Chelson:
I didn't have any capital gains. Oh, really? No. Okay. I I paid more for the house than I sold it for. There's no capital gains.
[01:22:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. So you sold it as a loss.
[01:22:58] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. I mean, I I was I was wanting it, you know, to make more on it. But
[01:23:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's just the the circumstances. Understand. Yeah. So Now did you does there if you take a loss on property, do you gain anything in taxes or it's just doesn't matter? No. Okay. Only if you Well, I mean only if you get capital gain.
[01:23:28] Rich Chelson:
You see, that's the thing. You see, I don't know because you see, I didn't really have any income. I I did have to show my Social Security income because Okay. I guess I guess that's what they said. I mean, but still, it that didn't matter.
[01:23:45] Duuude-Ron :
It Yeah. Because that's taxable income. No. It's not. Really?
[01:23:50] Rich Chelson:
No. For me, it is not.
[01:23:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay.
[01:23:53] Rich Chelson:
Because my sole income is the VA, and that's nontaxable. I do not have any taxable income.
[01:24:03] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:24:05] Rich Chelson:
Because if you have nontaxable income solely, if that's all you have and you get Social Security, it's nontaxable. Now Oh. If if if I was to go get a job, okay, I would have taxable income. So, therefore, that's where the Social Security could come into play at the end of the year depending on how much I made. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. So so I just I just had to show it, fill the form out, or well, I had h and r blocked to it because I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. And, had them, fill the form out, and, they're like, okay. And it zeroed everything. So alright. Cool.
It got filed. So so, yeah, the IRS knows that, you know, I wasn't trying to cheat them out of no money. I didn't make anything.
[01:25:06] Duuude-Ron :
So in turn, you also didn't get any type of a refund. Right? No. Hell no. Okay. No. Okay.
[01:25:12] Rich Chelson:
So and then and then I was like, am I good? The, lady was like, yep. She's like, we'll see you if you win the lottery.
[01:25:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:25:24] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shit. I mean, because I mean, because honestly, unless unless unless I go back to work or let's say I decide to sell these paintings, you know, and make a decent amount of money or whatever, then, yeah, I would have to show that as income. Right. But, then then, yes, I would I would have to pay taxes.
[01:25:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And and lottery winnings, that's only 37% you have to pay on tax.
[01:25:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know.
[01:25:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I could I could handle that. If I want a hundred million dollars, yeah, I'll give, you know, 37,000,000. Yeah. I think I could live on pretty much the rest. I don't think I'd have a problem.
[01:26:13] Rich Chelson:
I would hope so. Hell, I'd take 20,000,000. I'd still give him 37% because I could still live off the rest.
[01:26:23] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Well, and that's what the just the stand the standard is for lottery winnings is 37%.
[01:26:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I know. I've looked Yeah. But yeah. And
[01:26:35] Duuude-Ron :
I'd probably be broken about two years. So that would be only let's see. How much do I have left? You know, I'd only have, what, 63,000,000 left? Yeah. I think that would only last about two, three years.
[01:26:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, is that all?
[01:26:56] Duuude-Ron :
It seems like everybody win that wins big lotteries, they're fucking broken to five, ten years. Yeah. It's our bankruptcy.
[01:27:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well yeah. Because they they don't believe that they deserve that money.
[01:27:12] Rich Chelson:
That's true. It's it's yeah.
[01:27:15] Bryan Goodwin:
It's called the upper limit challenge.
[01:27:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's and it's and it's all and it's all about mindset, and that's the thing. None of us here in America have ever really been taught that. I mean, we've never had that much money. You know? Yeah. At one time. That's why that's why it scares people.
[01:27:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. That's why they get rid of it so so fast. They and they a lot of times, we'll wind up right back at the level that they think they're actually worth. Yep. So if they are used to making $30,000 a year, they may take two years off, blow go through $20,000,000, show up with nothing left, bankrupt, and earning $30,000 a year cap.
[01:28:11] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:28:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. And they have to sell all the toys that they bought. Oh, yeah. They sell everything. Yeah. They have to they get rid of it all Yeah. Because they can't afford it. And they do a lot of dumb, stupid investments. Their their uncle Tommy comes by and goes, hey, man. I've got an idea for a good business. You ought to try to come along and hey. I just need about a $200,000 to really get it moving. I don't know why no one's buying my stuff. Really? Because you're just sitting there in your living room waiting for people to buy your shit, and it doesn't work. Take it for somebody who's done that. It doesn't work for some reason.
[01:28:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. There was one lottery show I was watching. I think it was on HGTV or something like that that, you know, people that have gone blown through, lotteries and all the people that just come out of the woodwork. You know, there was one that, some guy contacted the person that won the lottery. Say, hey. My daughter is, getting ready to go to college, and she needs a car. You know, how about, hooking me up with about $50,000? You know, it's either 50,000 or a hundred thousand is always what they're asking for. You know? Oh, yeah.
Buy your own damn daughter a fucking car. You know? Okay. Or buy her a bicycle if you can't afford a car. Sucks to be here. But, you know, yeah, people come out of the woodwork trying to want everybody's money.
[01:29:48] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. And, see, that's the thing. You know? If if you won the lottery, you would find out just how how many family members you had in your family.
[01:30:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:30:03] Rich Chelson:
They oh, I mean oh, yeah.
[01:30:10] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I would never broadcast it.
[01:30:15] Rich Chelson:
Word would get out, though, one way or another. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Word would get yeah.
[01:30:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, without a doubt. You know, that's like the the meme that comes up that has a, a car carrier with nothing on nothing on it but Jeeps. You know, I wouldn't say anything that I won the lottery, but there would be clues.
[01:30:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:30:43] Rich Chelson:
You know, if you have a helicopter sitting in your backyard, that might be a clue.
[01:30:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:30:53] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. Not unless
[01:30:55] Duuude-Ron :
not unless I could physically learn how to fly, say, a Blackhawk or a Kiowa Warrior, I ain't gonna have a helicopter. If I am not like, what the hell is his name?
[01:31:10] Rich Chelson:
Oh, big d.
[01:31:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh.
[01:31:16] Duuude-Ron :
I can't remember his name now. He does he has a show and a YouTube channel where he used to be used to build trucks. You know, he took a fire truck and turned it into a, flatbed, tow truck, you know, type stuff. Big no. Not Biggie.
[01:31:37] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But, anyway Never heard of him.
[01:31:40] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. He I'd have to get his name correct, but he went out and bought a, a surplus army Blackhawk, but knows how to fly it himself.
[01:31:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, you you win the lottery, you can take lessons, dude.
[01:32:01] Duuude-Ron :
Absolutely. I I would probably do that.
[01:32:04] Rich Chelson:
I mean, you know, learning how to fly a helicopter. Most helicopters are about the same.
[01:32:11] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, they're yeah. Unless it's a Chinook, all of them are underneath the same premise.
[01:32:17] Rich Chelson:
So once you learn how to fly a helicopter, guess what? Get your Blackhawk.
[01:32:24] Duuude-Ron :
There you go. And the bad thing about it is is, you know, it's not like you can just park that motherfucker any place.
[01:32:33] Rich Chelson:
No. It would be a lot it it would be like an elephant hiding in a strawberry patch.
[01:32:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yeah. Without a doubt.
[01:32:47] Rich Chelson:
So but yeah. No. It's just I don't know. I I well, I well, I still don't play the lottery anyway, so I ain't never gonna win the lottery.
[01:33:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I I get it. I play every once in a while, but I haven't hit the all five of the ping pong balls at once. I think the biggest I've ever the most I've ever made on a lottery ticket is a $7 winning because I got what was it? Two of the regular balls and the Powerball, which paid out $7. I was a rich motherfucker.
[01:33:35] Rich Chelson:
There you go, man.
[01:33:37] Duuude-Ron :
So I took that $7 and, you know, bought another set of lottery tickets.
[01:33:43] Rich Chelson:
So so so then you didn't have $7.
[01:33:48] Duuude-Ron :
You're right. I did well, I had it for about a minute and a half.
[01:33:54] Rich Chelson:
Yep. And that was that was about it. So Dude. Dude. Here's the trick. If you win $7, take the $7, put it in the other pocket by, the next round, and just put the $7 up. Now it might take a thousand years, but you never know. You could wind up and get your, you know, hundred million that way. You just never know. Just a thought, man. You know? Just a thought.
[01:34:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So putting the winnings in the left pocket and then taking your money out of the right pocket for that same $7? Yeah. Yeah. It was. You just never know. You just never know. And see this way here, when you walk out the store,
[01:34:40] Rich Chelson:
you can actually say, I won $7. Because you see, when you won the $7 and cashed it in and just turned around and bought tickets, you didn't win the $7. You just turned around and bought seven more tickets or what I I don't know. I don't even know what they cost anymore. Is it still a dollar a ticket?
[01:35:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Depends on which one you get.
[01:35:08] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:35:09] Duuude-Ron :
If you play the Powerball, they're $2 a ticket. And if you just play, say, the regular regular Texas lottery is a dollar ticket.
[01:35:21] Rich Chelson:
Good god. $2 a ticket at 80,000,000 to one. Alright.
[01:35:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. It's crazy.
[01:35:29] Rich Chelson:
That's fucking nuts. I'm keeping my $2.
[01:35:35] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that $2 may just turn into, you know, 1,300,000,000.0, like that lucky bastard out in California.
[01:35:46] Rich Chelson:
You know what? That that's a possibility, but, you know, there's 79 and yeah. All all the numbers all the way down. Other chances to win than me. No. I'm not gonna do that. I I mean I mean, fat boy needs to eat, dude. I need to save my money for food.
[01:36:11] Duuude-Ron :
And smokes.
[01:36:13] Rich Chelson:
Yes. And smokes and coffee.
[01:36:15] Duuude-Ron :
And coffee. And toilet
[01:36:19] Bryan Goodwin:
paper.
[01:36:21] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I Where? Yes. I said the dreaded word. I was not politically correct.
[01:36:32] Duuude-Ron :
Well, God forbid if we were politically correct. Yeah. That ain't gonna fucking that ain't gonna fucking happen.
[01:36:39] Rich Chelson:
I would worry. I would worry about either one of you if you tried to be politically correct. I mean, Brian's iffy sometimes. He you know, he's on the fence sometime. I worry about him. Well, you know, I I gotta I gotta make y'all twitch just a little bit. You do do that. I'm not gonna lie. Once in a while, I got I got to I got to worry about you. But but, yeah, other than that, I just I I haven't done I well, actually, I went shopping this week, and it it just yeah. It's the weather down here has been rainy and well, now it's cold.
And, yeah, I just I just I just bite me. I just I just haven't been feeling good.
[01:37:29] Duuude-Ron :
I'm glad I'm glad some of our coldness snuck over to you.
[01:37:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's right now, it's saying it's, 51 degrees and, here. Feels like 38. Fucking cold.
[01:37:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It, yep. It came over to you. And it's It was 45 today and felt like 26.
[01:38:00] Rich Chelson:
Oh, it warmed up in the sixties today, about 65, 60 six, but it didn't last long.
[01:38:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:38:08] Rich Chelson:
So but, yeah. We're supposed to be in the sixties, tomorrow and then seventies on Saturday if it gets there, and then sixties and forties. And, yeah, we got about a week or so of what I will call cold temperatures.
[01:38:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, my boss told me that, I guess, it's supposed to get nasty here next week. I haven't looked at the weather report since he made that statement. But, yeah, if he's saying that, then we're gonna have some crappy weather next week.
[01:38:47] Rich Chelson:
You keep that shit over there. Okay? Don't you send it out. Don't send it my way.
[01:38:56] Duuude-Ron :
I'll try not to.
[01:38:58] Rich Chelson:
No. You tell it. No. Send it north. Send it to Iowa, dude. Send it to freaking Iowa. They well, that too. You well, I was trying to be nice to Brian. Okay? I mean, I was I was I was trying to be nice to Brian, so that's why I said send it to Iowa because Okay. So you're nailed with about a foot.
[01:39:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, did they? Yeah. Oh, see. Now you're gonna be on the fence. I was gonna say that to Brian for Brian. Oh, so now you're gonna fucking start, you know, straddling that fence. No. I was just Thanks a lot, friend.
[01:39:38] Bryan Goodwin:
I I I did figure I'd be I'd be nice to Brian once in a while. You know? What kinda do you have? From time to time where I start feeling like you're picking on me, and then then I then I start thinking I'm a booger, and then it gets it goes downhill from there. It's just yeah. Not good.
[01:39:54] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. Dusty called me earlier this week, and it it was it was, like, 10:10 thirty in the morning. And I'm like, dude, what the fuck? Why ain't you at work? You know? And, he flipped his phone around and opened the front door, and there was I'm like, woah. How much you got? He's like, oh, about eight inches right now, and it's still coming down. I'm like, yeah. He was like, screw you, dude. I'm like, no. It's all you, dude. Keep it.
[01:40:27] Bryan Goodwin:
But Well, yeah. I do agree with the proper phrase is for q.
[01:40:31] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:40:33] Duuude-Ron :
What was the phrase? Fort you. There you go. Or you could always tell Dusty, hey. You know what? You could you too also can move south.
[01:40:48] Rich Chelson:
I've told him that many times, and I've asked him, what in the hell keeps you up there in freaking Iowa, dude? There is no go karts. Up there. Dude, they've got better go karts down here. Yeah. They always does. These boys down here, they raise fucking anything. I mean, anything.
[01:41:09] Duuude-Ron :
Barstools? Yeah. Uh-huh. Barstool on a, lawnmower body.
[01:41:17] Rich Chelson:
I I yeah. I wouldn't doubt that. I haven't seen it yet, but I'd watch it. That'd be fun.
[01:41:26] Duuude-Ron :
But no I've seen a couple of videos of that. Yeah. It's it's interesting to watch.
[01:41:33] Rich Chelson:
You've watched lawnmower racing?
[01:41:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. With bar stools? Yeah.
[01:41:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[01:41:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. It was interesting. It's been several years ago, but, you know, it was now am I gonna try it? No. Because I'm allergic to pain, and I really don't want to fucking, you know, fall off.
[01:41:58] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That would that would be, yeah, that would that would not be my favorite time.
[01:42:06] Duuude-Ron :
Well, no. So, anyway, the gold karts where you're at go ahead.
[01:42:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. These guys down here, well, actually, Dusty has a friend who lives out in North Carolina. And but, the freaking go karts down here and they run the same type he runs and everything like that. But these boys down here are more serious about their race and then they are up north. And they, they do more things down here than they can do up in Iowa. Oh, okay. Into the corn cob. So plus, they also race the the sprint cars, the, the legend series, the dwarf cars. They race everything down here.
[01:43:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I would love to. If Texas had well, Texas does have a, what is it, USEC or some shit. I don't remember what the acronym is, but it's a traveling sprint car, group. They'll go yeah. Siri. And it'll hit the track up in, Waco about three times a year. Now when I was growing up, that was every Sunday night. We had nothing but sprints.
[01:43:45] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:43:46] Duuude-Ron :
Now is do they have that every week for racing with the sprints, or is it a series that moves
[01:43:55] Rich Chelson:
around? No. It's know? It's every week. Yeah. There's there's a track right over here in, in, Grand, Grand Bay, Alabama. It's just about 20 miles away from me. Yeah. They, yeah, they run sprints every week. They run I know. They run go karts, sprints. They run everything.
[01:44:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I know what what I'm doing that night
[01:44:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. When I come down,
[01:44:25] Duuude-Ron :
going to watch the sprints.
[01:44:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They yeah. See, down here, they they race down here because you see, that's the thing. You're down south, man. And, I mean, shoot. For a long time, this is where all of the NASCAR drivers came from. This is where they all started. You know? So so yeah. And that's yeah. These boys down here, they they still race. Yep.
[01:44:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know, it's too bad the world of outlaws doesn't have because they're on a series. They'll go fucking they won't hit the same track twice in a season most of the time. Right. And if they do hit a track twice, it's only one or two tracks. Yeah. I would love to go see the, King Of The Hill and the, Knoxville Nationals, But shit, the Knoxville Nationals, that's 200 roughly $200 of fucking per person ticket per day or per night.
[01:45:42] Rich Chelson:
No. It's not. No. No. Really?
[01:45:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. For for the world of outlaws?
[01:45:49] Rich Chelson:
Yes. No. It's not Oh, okay.
[01:45:52] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:45:53] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's, yeah. That shit's in Knoxville, Iowa, dude. Everybody goes to that. Everybody freaking goes to that.
[01:46:03] Duuude-Ron :
I would love to go to that one time. It's August 6 through the ninth this year.
[01:46:12] Bryan Goodwin:
So,
[01:46:15] Rich Chelson:
yeah, it's four days long.
[01:46:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:46:19] Rich Chelson:
And, I've talked to people that have, been there. Mhmm. They get pit passes and stuff. You know? And well, you know, they were racing because they race other things besides the sprints there as well. And, Yeah. They, they said it's crazy.
[01:46:43] Duuude-Ron :
It is During the weekend of the during the weekend of the Knoxville Nationals?
[01:46:48] Rich Chelson:
During the four days? Yes. It is. Yeah. You will see everything. Everything you can think of, you will see. And even some some shit that you didn't think you could see, you you you're still gonna see it.
[01:47:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. I like watching the well, my big thing is I like the the, mods and the super mods. You know? But I think my fave most favorite is the dwarfs and, obviously, the sprint cars.
[01:47:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, Ron, I I have to apologize, dude. You you you were kinda close. For four days, it's a hundred and $50 between $1.50 and $1.70.
[01:47:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that ain't bad for four days then. That ain't bad at all. That's actually pretty damn good price. That's roughly, yeah, about $50 a
[01:47:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Good job, Steve. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:47:59] Duuude-Ron :
I think when I when they came to Mesquite, to the Devil's Bowl, I, yeah, I think that's what about I paid. That's been five years ago, I think. But I think, yeah, I think I paid $45.50 dollars a ticket for the World of Outlaws. So yeah. Okay. I thought they would be a little bit more expensive than the or being at, for the nationals.
[01:48:32] Rich Chelson:
No. They they, no. They I mean, I don't know. I don't see why they, you know, would be. I mean, I well, I don't know because you see Knoxville is a little town. I mean, Knoxville, the biggest thing in Knoxville, Iowa
[01:48:50] Bryan Goodwin:
is the track. Oh, Utah, Iowa. I was, like, going, Knoxville, Tennessee is kind of a decent size. Yeah. You know? Had the world's fair there once.
[01:49:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No. No. This is this is Knoxville, Iowa. State. Different the other Knoxville.
[01:49:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. The other Knoxville in Iowa. Iowa. Welcome to Iowa. Yeah. The the track the track and the parking lot, yeah, I could only imagine that that's the biggest facility there in Knoxville, Iowa.
[01:49:20] Rich Chelson:
It is. Literally, it is. Because and, I mean, I've I've I've drove past the track, like, thousands of times when I was going up north to Pella or coming back home from working and I mean Right. It's it's right on Highway 14. It's just up from Sheraton, Iowa. It's about 25, 30 miles from Sheraton, Iowa. And yeah.
[01:49:49] Duuude-Ron :
I've Well, I've never been there either. So
[01:49:53] Rich Chelson:
Well, you really ain't missing nothing.
[01:49:55] Duuude-Ron :
I'm sure.
[01:49:57] Rich Chelson:
I mean, it's a small farm town. Knoxville is too, but Knoxville has a raceway. That's, you know, that's why Knoxville is on the map.
[01:50:10] Duuude-Ron :
And I and I'm sure when they have the nationals, they increase the, population threefold.
[01:50:18] Rich Chelson:
If not four.
[01:50:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:50:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm I'm serious. If not four, there's, oh my god. Yeah. Well, he just I mean, they still race even. You know, without the national, they still have races in Knoxville. You know, of of the bigger cars, like the IMCA modifies, the sprint car, shit like that.
[01:50:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah.
[01:50:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They still race. You know, they don't they don't just use a track for one race.
[01:50:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. They yeah. They have, the weekly races, the, you know, the locals.
[01:51:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. But but, yeah, there's yeah. The town in Knox and and it's funny, the, town of Knoxville. Well, most people get hotels in, like, Des Moines because Knoxville only has, like, one or two hotels in the whole town. Yeah. So I can believe that. I'm serious, man. You blink twice, and you've passed your year out of Knoxville.
[01:51:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I wonder what it would take to go off and build, like, a a decent size one or two other motels, but you only open them up during that time.
[01:51:44] Duuude-Ron :
Wonder what that would do. Wonder what that'd be like.
[01:51:49] Rich Chelson:
That'd be a good question, actually.
[01:51:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:51:52] Bryan Goodwin:
That's true. I mean, I'm sure I'm, obviously, no one's thought of it or no one has tried to do it because more than likely than not, it's a complete and total money waste. But at the same time, it's like, well, you know, have the handyman walk around, you know, once a day and make sure there's no drips and or and no tiles are flaking off and you know?
[01:52:18] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, though, the thing is you also have to think about okay. You have to think about the town. Will the town allow you to build a hotel?
[01:52:29] Bryan Goodwin:
If it allowed because, typically, like, in I know that the because from what I've heard, them, a person talking actually, the mayor of Clinton, Oklahoma Uh-huh. Talking about when, when they have, softball tournaments in in Clinton. Softball tournaments are real big there. And, he said for every person that shows up for those tournaments, that's an extra hundred dollars injected into the the local economy.
[01:53:06] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:53:07] Bryan Goodwin:
So if, you know so you bring a family of four, there's $400 injected into the into the, economy. So if that that if that holds true for, for, like, Knoxville where you just you know, if you have a couple of hotels that you have open strictly for national week or couple weeks, you know, and you have I don't know how many people y'all you have showing up, maybe a thousand. Right. So that'd be a hundred thousand dollars injected into the, into the local economy. Right. Right. That would blow their that blow their little, their little town mind.
[01:53:51] Rich Chelson:
Right. But but, see, the thing is, what, if a hotel was to come in, what kind of tax abatements would they want?
[01:53:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Or Typically, there's a thing called a hotel tax. So they get their own special tax.
[01:54:05] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. No. Because well And hospitality tax. Yeah. Yeah. No. But but, see, that's the thing, though, is that some of the towns,
[01:54:15] Bryan Goodwin:
they'll, they'll afford Oh, yeah. They they Property tax. To the, to the the company. Years. You know? But, again, what if you were just a local person and you say you you ended up winning, a lottery, and you've got $20,000,000, and you're just kinda, like, going, you know what? Let let's build a hotel here, and we'll just we'll just charge them, you know, hundred and $50 a night. We'll keep it open one, you know, for the, we'll open it up, you you know, like, a week before nationals because I'm sure people start forming in about that time and because they wanna test out the track, and they wanna do some runs and stuff like that and maybe hold on to it. So you might be open maybe a month out of the year.
[01:55:04] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But is it worth what you're gonna spend to build that hotel? Well, I mean And staff it and and stock it with with,
[01:55:13] Bryan Goodwin:
bedding and towels and all that shit. And then Oh, that I don't know. That, I mean, I You know? That I that I don't know. And like I said, no one's done it yet, so it's probably a profit it's probably a a loss leader in a waste of Sunday.
[01:55:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:55:30] Bryan Goodwin:
But at the same time, I think that would you know, it's part of me is just going, yeah. But, you know, what if you just shut it down? You know, you you close everything up. You lay out, you you do kinda like the Stanley Hotel, or, the the Overlook Hotel in the Shining. You know, you shut it all down, everyone leaves, and, and stuff. Granted, I mean, they open up at the end of spring again and leave at the beginning of fall, so there's just a little season in there. But, you know, you've got a really short season, and so maybe you've got a, you you you pay for a guard, you pay for a handyman.
Maybe you're good with, you're a good handyman, and so you don't even have to worry about the handyman. You just go over there once a day, and you just start at the top, you work your way all the way down and make sure there's no leaks. You don't hear for leaks or anything, and you you reapply tiles that it may have, have tried to come off and and things like that. And, yeah. And you just take care of it, until it's time, and then, you know, here comes the influx. You got, you know, a thousand people that come in and poof, voila, you've got, you've got a shit ton of extra money added to it, and you're you're charging a hundred and 50, 2 hundred bucks depending on how busy it gets, you know, per room.
So, yeah, you're all of a sudden, you're you're, the hotel taxes starts ringing all in a lot. I mean, yeah. I mean, there's I'm surprised someone has not at least tempted that because that seems like I mean, there's a lot of money that they are just the the tech people of the town are just leaving on the table.
[01:57:14] Rich Chelson:
But see, that's the thing, though. Up there in Iowa, like that, those people are are are how to put it? They're they're moved to certain things, but most part, no. They're not. You know, they like things a certain way. Oh, yeah. If you go and try and start to change that, then they start getting, you know, Yeah.
[01:57:47] Bryan Goodwin:
A little huffy. Yeah.
[01:57:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, if I if I was to do something like that, I would build cabins and put them in a circle and then, like, a walk path to the center, and the center of all of those cabins be a fire pit.
[01:58:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's an idea. I mean, you could go off and buy a shit ton of, of of of tiny homes or buy out outbuildings. I I almost said outhouses. Outbuildings, big difference. Huge difference. One smells a lot better. But Right. Buy a bunch of outbuildings, turn them into tiny homes because they're only gonna be there for a week, so you could just there wouldn't be any any real big problem. Hell, it'd be on your property. So, you know, you might have to change a little see if you get a little section of it rezoned for commercial.
[01:58:50] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, see, that's the thing. You would that's where that's where the town would and and, see, this is why living in town and thinking of something like that, even though it's a hell of an idea, the town has final say, and that's you know? I mean, I don't know. It's it's it's it's So, yeah, you'd have to do it outside of that city limit
[01:59:11] Bryan Goodwin:
so that they could all they could do is stand around and bitch and go, I can't believe they're going off and wasting all that damn good land and putting a bunch of little houses on there for someone who's gonna show up there for two two weeks out of the whole damn year. Yeah. I I understand. I'm that's Sunray.
[01:59:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:59:29] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, yeah, take take Sunray and, I mean, Knoxville, I think, is a little bigger than Sunray. Oh, yeah. Now we're we're 2,000 people.
[01:59:39] Bryan Goodwin:
We're 2,000 people.
[01:59:44] Rich Chelson:
I think Knoxville is about the same or close close to it because Knoxville is not that big. I mean, god dang. It's not that big. If it's 2,000 people, I'd I'd be surprised. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. I am surprised. It's 7,000. Wow. I didn't think it was even that big. Literally, it's I mean, going north and south, you roll into town, and You sneeze, and it's gone. Yep. You've got, like, three lights in the and and no. Four lights. Oh, see. Sunrise doesn't even have a light. Okay. Well, four lights in the town, and the last light is right at the entrance to the pits for the, the racetrack.
After that, you ain't got no more stoplights. And then, that's it. You know? And so, yeah, Knoxville is more wide than tall. But, yeah, they that's crazy. 7,400 people. Okay. I I learned something new. I I Yeah. Like I said, I never thought it was that big. So yeah. And and that was as of 2023. Okay. Well,
[02:01:19] Duuude-Ron :
well, I should look at look at Sturgis. Sturgis population is only a few thousand, but when you have Sturgis Week, it turns into 30,000
[02:01:31] Bryan Goodwin:
people. No. Hundred thousand, dude. I was gonna say at least a 50, two hundred thousand. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of folk.
[02:01:39] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Sturgis. Yes. Yes. Sturgis is astronomical. Oh, wow. Hang on. As of 2023, it says population in Sturgis is 7,067 people.
[02:01:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Are you sure you're not looking over at Knoxville again?
[02:01:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No. I I I put in Sturgis, South Dakota. Oh, okay. Okay. So yeah. But yeah. No. It says it's 7,600 and or 7,067 people.
[02:02:17] Duuude-Ron :
And I think those two biggest bars, that are, you know, right in that area are only open up during surge this week.
[02:02:32] Bryan Goodwin:
So see? There's proof that would work.
[02:02:35] Duuude-Ron :
That's
[02:02:37] Rich Chelson:
yeah. Now, check this out. The Sturgis bike rally. Right?
[02:02:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:02:47] Rich Chelson:
The highest ever attendance was in 2015, and there was 739,000 people.
[02:02:57] Duuude-Ron :
God damn.
[02:02:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. That's a lot of people.
[02:03:01] Rich Chelson:
739,000 people. Damn. That is crazy.
[02:03:13] Duuude-Ron :
And I wonder I bet you probably a good 50, two hundred thousand people were out there at that. Was that, that campground? What was that called? The Buffalo Chip.
[02:03:32] Rich Chelson:
Oh, it's yeah. Very easy. Yeah. I would say. I would say very easy, but, yeah, that was yeah. In 2015, there was that many people. That's Wow. A lot of people.
[02:03:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:03:51] Rich Chelson:
That's just wow. Yeah. Too many people for me.
[02:03:57] Duuude-Ron :
You know, but I would love to go up there and just visit it one time just to see just to have the Sturgis experience. Now I'm not gonna have a motorcycle more than likely, but just to go up there and see the atmosphere.
[02:04:18] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, I believe up there, you could find a lot of different stuff too that you would not normally see.
[02:04:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I have no have no doubt in my mind there.
[02:04:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't know. This year, it's it starts on August 1 and goes through the tenth.
[02:04:44] Duuude-Ron :
What? Sturgis?
[02:04:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Sturgis. Okay. Yeah. So so, yeah, it goes it's just man, that's just huge.
[02:05:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:05:02] Rich Chelson:
But, you know, that's the thing. You only have to work ten days out of the year. You ain't gotta work the rest of the time if you don't want to.
[02:05:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah.
[02:05:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? Because think because, you know, think about it. You know? Even even if you have a slow year at 300,000 people, you get $1 from 300,000 people, guess what? You got $300,000.
[02:05:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, absolutely. Well, that's I mean, we there was a, whenever I worked for the coop, there was a, a harvest crew that came through town to do harvest. Yep. And that was their whole deal. They would come in, and they went through they did their the harvest and all that, and they go they do their big old circuit. And then when they were done, several of them would go back up to, up to Jackson Hole, Wyoming. And that's where they would live and hang out, and he would they would do be ski bombs Yep. The rest of the year. And when harvest kicked back up, they'd all jump back under their tractors and trucks and stuff like that and go run again and do a big old loop and right back up there.
Yeah. They just they would just, just live off their, live off their savings.
[02:06:25] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. Because you see, that's the thing. Those those harvest cruise, you know, I had seen them all over. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'd seen the traveling harvest cruise, and those boys make money.
[02:06:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They do. They they don't they don't piss around. They just it's they get them them combines up moving, and they just they've got a system down. They just right underneath there, plucking off their, you know, they got the tractor with the with the catch trailer on there and dumping it into the semi trucks. And
[02:06:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Those, yeah, those guys make money. So Yeah. They do. Because, otherwise, they damn sure wouldn't do it, and they make good money too. So see, dude, you could do that. Yeah.
[02:07:13] Duuude-Ron :
You know, that's not a that's not a bad thought, really.
[02:07:18] Rich Chelson:
You know? Because, you wouldn't be hauling hazmat, and you'd be hauling, grain from the field Yeah. To the elevator.
[02:07:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You'd be carrying about a hundred thousand pounds of grain. Yeah. Yeah. No. I'd rather I'd rather drive the con combine. Well, you do that too. Well, you probably work your way up to that because that's where everybody I'm sure that's where everybody wants to work.
[02:07:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I'm sure it is.
[02:07:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Because hell, they those damn combines pretty much just drive themselves these days.
[02:07:48] Duuude-Ron :
These days. Yep. A lot of them are, you know, satellite navigated.
[02:07:54] Rich Chelson:
Yep. G GPS and all that. I mean Yep. You really ain't gotta do too much except sit there and,
[02:08:03] Bryan Goodwin:
listen to the in front of you. Make sure you don't go off and scoop a coyote up.
[02:08:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Or, or, if you're cutting beans, you don't mess the head up on the combine.
[02:08:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. See, I wouldn't know about that. And, I mean, only thing I know about, about, soybeans is that they look like giant Milo. Yeah. And I had a we had a Guatemalan who was working for us. El Salvador loved him. He was an amazing dude. Always happy. And, went over to, we're and coop, there's, see, Elevator A, b, c, d, and E. So there's five actual l zones that we can dump our, our grain into. And, during, during, during, corn harvest, you also have Milo and soybeans coming in also.
[02:09:04] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:09:05] Bryan Goodwin:
And so, Milo goes over into, Elevator A, but so does soybeans. And, we I was stuck over on, over on Elevator B doing something, and, my friend Justin, he was over in Elevator C doing something. And, anyhow, we told Salvador, hey, Sally. Go over there and dump the dump the the, that, that farmer that just showed up over there. And so he okay. Okay. Okay. And he off he goes. Well, it's like, we got I got done, so I was like, I'm gonna go check on Salvador and make sure he's okay. He's you'd be back by now. He's not and, I go over there, and he was all excited. He's like, big Milo. Big Milo. And he was mixing it in with Milo. And I was like, oh, you son of a bitch. Oh, goddamn.
So, yeah, we had to stop that, put it over into the soybean deal, and then go through, and we had a screen a separator for, from to for for that very fact. And, basically, it was just, it was, what's, what's it called? Wire cloth. Hardware cloth. And, we just add a drum inside of a drum. And so we would take the, we would, take the the, the mixed grain, and we would run it through there. And the, the soybeans are too big to fall through the holes, so the but the Milo wasn't. So the Milo would just go back on on the floor of the, of the elevator, and, and we would take and we would direct the, the, the soybeans back into the pit and
[02:10:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And stuff. And so but goddamn nose.
[02:10:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh god. We were just like, yeah. We couldn't be mad at it because he was just excited about it. Holy shit, man. That's big Milo.
[02:11:04] Rich Chelson:
He's like, shit. Yeah.
[02:11:08] Bryan Goodwin:
I was like, no. That's soybeans.
[02:11:11] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shit. Yeah.
[02:11:16] Bryan Goodwin:
It's like, yeah. Shit. Damn. I'm gonna make a big milo.
[02:11:20] Duuude-Ron :
To went from big milo
[02:11:23] Bryan Goodwin:
to, oh, shit. Is that no working for, man? It's we can't keep you doing that.
[02:11:29] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. The, cutting head on a combine for soybeans has is like little or well, not little, but wire fingers on on on a cutting head Okay. That, cuts the beans off. And, yeah, if I mean, that it's not spinning fast, but anything that's in motion tends to stay in motion unless you hit, like, a log or something. And then it when it stops everything, it back feeds, breaks some, fingers and all like that. And then you have to change out the cutting head in order to get the yield. You'd you know, you can't cut with a a broke head like that. Whereas with a corn, it it it it has them, like, forks or Right.
Or yeah. And they're pointed on the end and Uh-huh.
[02:12:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Takes the stalk. Then you've got the yeah. You've got the paddle that comes along and scoops everything out closer to the, directs everything to the cutters.
[02:12:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but that's where that's where the soybean head is is more open, and it's a little more fragile. So that's why you have to be more careful when you're cutting soybeans. So Well, I I can't stand soybeans anyhow. So Well, I mean, we don't taste half the soybeans they use because it's all it's all mixed in, different foods.
[02:13:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, I know. I know. But I I
[02:13:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Soybeans
[02:13:11] Bryan Goodwin:
have no not good for men.
[02:13:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Soybeans have no flavor.
[02:13:17] Bryan Goodwin:
No. They don't have that much flavor or any flavor. They but I yeah. Again, they're just they're not good for they're not good in general for men in in general. So Why you say Women. Okay. Yeah. I mean, they can they can the phytoestrogen in in in soybeans is is, you know, is okay for women. You can actually do they can actually do soy to help alleviate some of the, like, menopause problems. But guys, no. You don't need to be don't need that much estrogen in your system.
[02:13:59] Rich Chelson:
Oh, so so so so that's why some of these guys are a little
[02:14:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Soy boys? Yeah. That's a lot of the reason why Soy boys are like the way they are. Ah, okay. You mean big pussies? Pretty much. Yeah. Alright. They are inseminate because the of of the, of the soybean. That and also just because they they think they can get lucky with the good looking liberal chicks until they decide they're gonna act act like they're on their side, and then they wonder why the girl goes off in, in friend zones them all the time because, well, you're not a dude. Like, the girl doesn't even understand why she friend zones them all the time and goes to the asshole because the asshole's closer to a man being a masculine man than than, you know, in feminine, soy boy dude is.
So, but, yeah, I stay away from soy candles and all. I mean, I don't use it I don't use vegetable oil for the very fact that it's just soybean. If you look it up, it's it's, it's, or you look at the ingredients and it's soybean oil. That's all it says. It's called itself vegetable oil, but there's not any vegetables in it because soybean is a legume. Right.
[02:15:30] Rich Chelson:
But
[02:15:32] Bryan Goodwin:
But seed oil is actually ain't good for you as a whole either.
[02:15:35] Rich Chelson:
What is? What is Seed oils.
[02:15:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Like corn oil, peanut oil.
[02:15:43] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Like, you see that I mean, for me, canola, I don't care. If if if if I if if I need oil to cook with, I'm cooking with it. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's just it's just healthier for people to actually
[02:16:01] Bryan Goodwin:
cook with and that includes frying to cook with, with animal fat. So using lard or beef tallow or something like that. Try and find lard. Oh, it's all over the damn place. Now it's expensive.
[02:16:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It is expensive and I mean, shit. We used to get that shit. I mean but we'd get, you know, 30 pounds of it for $2.
[02:16:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, you but yeah. But now and, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna get enough to to equal out like way, like a, like a Crisco can. Yeah. You're gonna get that about that size, you're gonna end up you're gonna end up paying $10.15 dollars for that. Yeah. Well, the Crisco can is, like, you know, $5.06.
[02:16:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But that's not real lard.
[02:16:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Crisco's not. No. I agree. But lard is.
[02:17:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Lard is.
[02:17:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Large lard. Crisco, no. That's vegetable shortening. That is, again, soybeans.
[02:17:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But yeah. No. You see that it you see, that's the thing. You know? I mean, I mean, growing up, we we cooked with mostly lard.
[02:17:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You know? I mean, I was Oh, I've gotten around to cooking, but I've one of the things I got for Christmas was a was a bacon container, and it's, you know, it's a good size, about the size of a small coffee can. It comes with a, with a little aluminum, I'm gonna call it aluminum, dirt in, strainer on it. It's a real fine hole, so you just take it once you're finished frying the bacon up, pour it into the, onto the, onto the strainer. It separates all the solids or the majority of the solids, not every solid, but the majority of the solids. And, you're left with this beautiful smelling, you know,
[02:18:07] Rich Chelson:
fat.
[02:18:09] Bryan Goodwin:
And, yeah, I've cooked most of my stuff now with that. And so everything's got a wonderful taste of bacon there. You know, just kind of a little smoky flavor to it. But but, yeah, it's when it comes to, like, whenever I'm cook I still use canola oil, and I I really don't want to, but at the same time, it's it's it's cheaper. But there's oh, and one other thing, because my over Walmart, we saw these 35 pound tubs of of what they bacon grease. What? Yeah. Yeah. You can actually buy bacon grease at Walmart. Oh. The problem that you have, though, and this is one reason why you wanna you you wanna pay attention to it is one, it's gonna be a lot of times, it's gonna be so highly processed that, that it's and has, like, BHA.
BHA is a preservative
[02:19:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:19:16] Bryan Goodwin:
That allows for the fat to be cooked and recooked and recooked a lot more times than fat should be cooked.
[02:19:24] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:19:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Most of the time, you can cook one, two, maybe if you're lucky three times. And after that, you know, it's it's gonna start going rancid. Right. And, I mean, I I only cook with it once one other time. I'll I'll fry it up, dump it out, and I'll cook use it to cook, you know, throw a flop, a glob of it on the pan, cook some eggs, or if I'm, you know, browning something in a skillet, I'll use bacon grease instead of instead of butter or or oil or whatever. Unless it's, olive oil. Olive oil is not a not a nut. So it that's actually a good oil to use also.
[02:20:09] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's not a nut, but
[02:20:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. What do you mean? Because It's not it's not a seed oil. I mean, not a nut, but it's not a seed oil because you're getting the oil from the No. You're getting it from the meat. You're not getting it from the seed.
[02:20:24] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. I yeah. But still,
[02:20:27] Bryan Goodwin:
it has a seed in it. Well, yeah, it's got a seed in it, but most of the time, from what I understand, they pop that seed out.
[02:20:34] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah, you hope. Because if you put in a mouthful of olives and you go to bite down, that's not Oh, yeah. I know. You gotta break a tooth.
[02:20:43] Bryan Goodwin:
I know. Right? That's fine. Those damn tooth are mean. So Yes. They are. Mean.
[02:20:52] Rich Chelson:
Especially if the jar says pitted.
[02:20:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[02:20:56] Rich Chelson:
You know? Yeah. Yeah. You ain't expecting that pit.
[02:21:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Nope. That of course, I've done that, and I've, yeah, I go slow. Anytime, cherries, olives. I I'm I do not go just hog wild and start just chopping away. It's test. Okay. I squished through there. There we go. Okay. We're good. So
[02:21:20] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when you guys are talking about nuts, man, that goes back to Prozac. Because sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Think.
[02:21:35] Rich Chelson:
Almond Joy has nuts. Bounds don't. I that just popped into my head. Yeah. It's seriously that just popped into my head.
[02:21:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's where it came from, but it's Prozac because some or sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.
[02:22:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, what have we got?
[02:22:02] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. Shit. Oh, fuck.
[02:22:06] Duuude-Ron :
Really? All that in one? Yeah. No. How are you doing? What are you doing? Turning yourself into a fucking pretzel or something?
[02:22:18] Rich Chelson:
God, no. I would I would need help to unravel myself, and I ain't got no one I could call.
[02:22:26] Duuude-Ron :
Well, shit. Based upon everything that you just said, you're pretzelized.
[02:22:32] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I I had sauce Well, there you go. You go get your your realtor, realtor girlfriend. Oh. Call her up. Go, hey. Hey. I'm kind of nodding up here. Get get me all untied.
[02:22:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That would be nice. No. No. This I had see, I had forgot to write it down. I I freak pulled a dude and and because there was something I I I had read about this week, and I was gonna mention about it, and I totally spaced it out. And then I remembered I was gonna say something, and then I remembered that I didn't remember it no more. And that's that's why I went,
[02:23:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Oh, god damn it.
[02:23:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because I was I was trying to grasp it and then, yeah. No. And then it dribbled right back out of here. Oh, god. Yeah. I don't I don't I don't think it even fully formed, and then it just, yeah, it just ran.
[02:23:39] Bryan Goodwin:
He's like, you just thought you're gonna remember me.
[02:23:43] Rich Chelson:
Right. And that was rude because, you know, I I'm still trying to think of it too, and I can't talk. Okay.
[02:23:52] Bryan Goodwin:
It'll it'll come to you three days from now Probably. 02:00 in the morning. They're all asleep of your life.
[02:24:00] Rich Chelson:
And then I'll forget to write it down again.
[02:24:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's why you have a notebook setting beside setting beside you on on the night table.
[02:24:13] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I got, dude, I got fucking notebooks everywhere. I got a notebook in the kitchen, notebook on the dining room table, freaking notebook in my, painting room.
[02:24:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Same thing. I mean, I've I've got a couple of notebooks and and stuff, but it's kinda like here recently. I'm I'm back onto onto my hyperlocal podcast idea again. It's not leaving my head as easily as I was hoping it was going to. Oh, okay. So and I so I'll sit down and write. I've gotten because and what I think I'm just gonna have to do is I'm gonna have to sit down and just set up and do a mock three hour episode.
[02:24:59] Rich Chelson:
Why are you looking to do that long?
[02:25:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Why why that long?
[02:25:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:25:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, because that just seems like a good round number. Okay. Alright. Just ask a dude. Because that way, I can do because I've I've it's not hyper hyperlocal. It's more just kind of local because it's I wanna be able to cover Elk City, actually cover about four to four or five different counties.
[02:25:28] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:25:29] Bryan Goodwin:
So you got Elk City, Clinton, Weatherford, Mangum, and a few of the other, Ouachita County. So you got Beckham and and Rogers Mills and Okay. And, Custer County and a couple other of these other counties. And I wanna be able to Greer, that's where Mangum's at, Seminole I think Seminole. It's like Seminole's down around that area. Might be Kiowa County that's got Hobart. Damn. I'm from Texas. I don't know all all 77 Oklahoma
[02:26:10] Rich Chelson:
counties. Well well, let me ask you this. Is there is there is there enough, subject matter to,
[02:26:18] Bryan Goodwin:
you know, cover all that every week? I think I've I've I'm well, that's one of the reasons why I need to do a couple I need to do about three mock episodes. Go through, edit them, all that, do all that type of stuff, and see what the amount of work is actually gonna be. Because I know it's typically podcasting's for, forever minute of of of of work of of episode is four minutes of work. Alright? Right. So and that's that's not just editing, that's promotion, marketing, yada yada yada. Yeah. But one of the things that I'm wanting to do with this is also I wanna this is gonna be a sponsored podcast. Now it's gonna have a lot of podcasting two point o stuff, but it's, basically, it's gonna be a sponsored podcast.
So Okay. The the the, the website brought to you by, you know, Farmers Cooperative, whatever. Right? This, I'd like to do the jailhouse blotter, and we have a, we have a actual publication that does a lot of these, and I'd like to team up with them for maybe, like, a little two and a half, maybe five minute section. I'd like to do try to get it about five of just some of the latest dumb criminals of the week. Okay. And so they they get, a little extra show. I get a little extra you know, I get to use their material. I get some content. They get, they get, some recognition and some free basically, free advertising to start off with since I don't have a a a, an audience yet.
But then, have, like, the website be done by, be sponsored by someone, have it, whatever, the Western Oklahoma podcast brought to you by, you know, somewhat, you know, brought to you by five eighty Mercantile. That's, it's, one of the local stores. So they get the they get the top billing. They get they are mentioned in every every show, and actually, use a lot of what Glenn Hebert talked about for horses in the morning. So the, the sponsors don't just get to go, well, here's some money. No, no, no, it's not just that you get, here's some money. You're also gonna come on to the show and you're gonna sit down and you're gonna talk about something or another. Right. So that brings up that fluffs out a lot of the stuff. And so, basically, what I wanna what I wanna do is there's gonna be three main sections.
There's gonna be just the local news. There's, going to be sports ball, and then there's gonna be a a bit of maybe political discussions, just kind of a general it'll probably end up being a good bit of political discussions whenever election time comes along because I do wanna be able to bring all the, all the, the candidates onto the show and let the and and talk to them, find out what they know, what they don't know, what they kinda wish they know, what kinda wish they didn't know. You know? Yeah. Find out what they stand for, why do they stand for, you know, you know, what caused you to want to to become a, county commissioner? What does a county commissioner do in your eyes? You know, that that type of stuff.
So that, you know, one, everybody who listens will have a have a better idea of who they're voting for and not be and it would actually be a set number of questions. It wouldn't be any gotcha questions on, you know so why did you, you know, why do you think that, you know, kids should be able to transition, generally? You know? And nothing like that where it'd be a be a gotcha question. But anyhow, have that but also somewhere in that section, have news around town where anybody and everybody who wants to throw in, maybe they have a concern, they have a they, you know, they wanna talk about the the 37 potholes are over on First Avenue.
They can bring in they could send over a, an email or or something and be able to bring up their their concern. Maybe even do, oh, what is that speak pipe? You know, set up speak pipe and stuff. Maybe we use have speak pipe brought to you by Barnes Jewelry or whatever. And so all the little aspects of it are gonna be are gonna be sponsored, and then you've got but also, another reason why I wanna do the three hours is because of the, for the break, I wanna put the breaks for, for actual commercials. So we'll have the two pre roll ads, and those will be the the expensive ones because those will be the ones that everybody is going to, everybody will hear.
And then between each segment, there's gonna be two more, two more ads. In in the middle of the of the, segments at the moment for the time being, I don't see there gonna be any. If somebody really, really wants one, it's like, alright. Well, fine. That's gonna be even more expensive because that's a more prime real estate, and I really don't care wanna, you know, cut that, cut that seg those segments up like that.
[02:32:16] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because I find that really nice. Okay. No. No. I get it. And and, you know, I mean, it you know, it you know, it sound it sounds like you're thinking it out and all like that, which is good. What is your plans for, for a distribution? Because a lot of people in those counties, do they know about podcast? You know? I mean, you've got an agent. It'll be it'll have to be through
[02:32:45] Bryan Goodwin:
through a lot of word-of-mouth, but also as the, one of the things I'll probably end up having to start off doing is, going ahead and just out of my own pocket, buy some may have some stickers made that they could put on that they put on their front doors of their businesses. Proud sponsor of whatever the podcast is, podcast link, you know, on there.
[02:33:10] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:33:12] Bryan Goodwin:
So people come by. They see it. Right. Not to mention as the as the sponsors are on there, they come on the show. They're gonna people will hear about that. They'll be talked about. They'll tell their friends. It's, with it being local I mean, Elk City, Clinton, Weatherford is actually kinda unique because they still actually have, a radio station that has a actual has real DJs in them. Right. Okay. Right radio, and they're they're from the zoo to, the coyote to KCLI.
[02:33:51] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. No. No. I dude, I I no. That's that's fine. I'm not saying nothing about that. I'm just No. I know. I don't. But I'm just gonna Because see, the thing is, you know, a lot of the older people, because you've got an aging population in that area Yeah.
[02:34:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Don't know nothing about podcasts or or a podcast app or Oh, okay. Well, and that is that's fine. Because one of the things that I plan wanna do also is Adam Curry has been working with, Dave Jones and has come up with a thing, a good way you could look at this, you wanna see kind of what the base idea. If you go to hellofred.fl.
[02:34:32] Rich Chelson:
Hello, Fred?
[02:34:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Fred as in hello Fredericksburg. It's just hellofred.fm. This is GodCaster, and this is a a podcast best way to describe it is it's a podcast app for a very specific topic.
[02:35:02] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:35:04] Bryan Goodwin:
And so it's a podcast app for Fredericksburg.
[02:35:10] Rich Chelson:
That's a streaming.
[02:35:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah, you he does streaming on it because podcasting two point o, you know, you do have live streams on there. So Right. And so he he did talk he has talked about the streaming. He he does live $3.65 for it, and it cost him, like, $70 or whatever. So I could all you know, I could again, if I wanted to do live streaming, alright. Fine. I can do live streaming. I find a find someone who'll be a sponsor for it and poof, voila, you know, we we can add that on there. But besides for just having the well, no. The Western Oklahoma podcast, whatever, to a name to be determined yet.
Yeah. There's all the other content machines that are out there in Elk City, Mangum, Clinton, and stuff. And those those content making machines are called churches.
[02:36:11] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's true.
[02:36:13] Bryan Goodwin:
And so have you know, that way, the, you know, when the churches go live, they they get noticed, and that would and that's a that, hellofriend.fm is a a PWA. So you can put it onto your phone and just be able to open it up, and it acts like an app.
[02:36:41] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:36:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So it's a lot like, True Fans.
[02:36:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Okay. No. No. I see, I was just wondering because I mean, no. I I mean, I like I like I like where you're going with it. I was just thinking of the older people. Yeah. And I think it would because the older people, more than likely, they would just use,
[02:37:03] Bryan Goodwin:
if if they do have a, have a a computer, open, you know, they'll probably just use the computer. But if they have their phones, some some are are sophisticated enough to where they they open the phone up, they could hit that and go, okay. We got let's do First Baptist Church of Clinton and listen in and see what's what's happening there. Right. And, you know, anytime the churches go live, they can do live streams, and they would get the, the bat, bat signal put out and, and be notice notified that, First Baptist Church has gone live and local. And so there you go. And so be able to also any local podcasters would be able to be added to it as long as, as they are. And I would have some stipulations with it, obviously, because if you're somebody who is talking about, dirty stories, probably doesn't need to be on sitting next to a god, godly, by church.
Yeah. No. That's Not that I not that I have a problem with it, but at the same time, the older folks probably have a problem with it. And, I don't wanna and I've gotta you know, if I'm gonna do I have to do a little bit of, censoring because I'm doing sponsors. Right. That's just nature of that particular beast. Yeah. No. And that's I mean,
[02:38:25] Rich Chelson:
you choose to do that, and that's fine. You know? Yeah. You know you know what you have to do and everything like that. But Right. No. I that's the thing. You know? I was just you know, like I said, I was just thinking of, what would, you know because that area in Western Oklahoma yeah. You know, a lot of people, they might know about podcast, but a lot of them it's it's probably not on their top 10 list. You know?
[02:38:54] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:38:55] Rich Chelson:
So that's, you know, that's why I was just thinking the way I was.
[02:39:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. No. No. Nothing wrong with that. I'm gonna have to put you on to, speaker phone because I'm down 7% on my phone.
[02:39:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. So Okay.
[02:39:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I just heard the, and I was like, oh, no.
[02:39:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's not cool.
[02:39:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Of course, I I was everybody and their dog wanted to call me today. So
[02:39:23] Rich Chelson:
Well, you were popular then. I was apparently popular today. Absolutely. So Well, that's cool.
[02:39:31] Bryan Goodwin:
So yeah. Moe, I I do have proud palm moment, bit, though.
[02:39:36] Rich Chelson:
What's that?
[02:39:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, my son just, called me up, and he was excited to let me know that, apparently, a a disc golf tournament, guy, he's apparently a kind of a big deal in the in the pot in in the, in the disc golf world Okay. Is wanting to use his store for his tournaments.
[02:40:05] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[02:40:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Because apparently, they he they have a it's yeah. It's Jaden has his store, and then there is this, there's another store, and another store has been there for a while. The only problem is is that the guy is not dedicated to it. You'll show up there to go buy some buy some new discs from this from the competitor store Uh-huh. And they're typically not there. And and, the, and so it's just they don't know if the guy is just not dedicated to it. He just doesn't care about it or or what. But he but, anyhow, they were like they went into, to, the, the Route 66 Visitor Center in, on, on Route 66, which is Jaden's grandmother runs that store, and she's given him a room to run his store.
Right. Right. And so he's, so he's got his stuff set up there, and the guy came in, apparently came in because somebody had told them about his store. And, and they were like, yeah. You've got a hell of a lot more stuff than anybody else around here. Actually, you're the only other store that seems to actually be running. And so they're like, yeah. Let's see what we can do on the want to do some, some extra tournaments here in the, in the in the Panhandle. And so have you, have you do it?
[02:41:35] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Dude, that's awesome.
[02:41:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. I was like, dude. He's like, dude, dad, I'm shaking. He's like, yeah. Well, that's alright. Just don't choke. Alright. Just breathe.
[02:41:46] Rich Chelson:
Breathe through it. You're fine. Breathe in. Breathe out. You know?
[02:41:51] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean Ask them all the questions. Don't think of any questions being dumb because you just ask every question you could think of and, and then execute.
[02:42:00] Rich Chelson:
Right. Exactly. Don't wait. Just execute. No. That's that is awesome. That man, that's cool. I know someone who has a son that is is is Trying to get it?
[02:42:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Ready. Trying to get it. Trying to make himself make himself a hand, and he's making himself a hand in the in the land of disc golf. So Hey. Whatever works end up having to get a disc golf bag and start buying some discs myself and start figuring out how to fling those darn things.
[02:42:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Okay. I mean, I I I don't I'd I'd fling it like a Frisbee.
[02:42:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's pretty much how you throw it. I mean, there's a couple different ways you can, ways different goofy ways we we would throw away a Frisbee is how they throw it. I mean, they've got, you know, the normal where you cup your hand on one side and curl it around and and just fling it out. There's the, the over the backhand way. There's, there's several different ways to hold it and to and to and to throw a disc. So
[02:43:10] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Oh, well, I I I know of one way, and that's that that has worked for me ever since I learned.
[02:43:17] Duuude-Ron :
I am good.
[02:43:19] Rich Chelson:
I am good.
[02:43:22] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, anyhow, well, we've got ourselves we're down to, about, 09:40 here, so we might as well go ahead and get her all shaped up and and red eye to bring her in for landing for the week. Okay. So, guys, I wanna say thank you very much for y'all taking the time to stop by, listen, see what's happening in the world of, two grumpy vets and a dude. And just pickled that, that y'all come by and and y'all do do actually listen. And we, you know, a lot of times we have some serious discussions. A lot of times we have just goofy and we see if we can get each other to laugh in some form, fashion, or another. But what it is is we're just three guys who are friends, and we wanna be sure that we live our life intentionally with each other, at least for a couple hours during the week.
And so we do, and that's where two, two grumpy vets and a dude come from. And so we've been, been having a a good time doing this. And one of the key parts we've made decided on this podcast was to make it value for value. It's not a it's not gonna have any type of advertisements. It's not gonna have any type of sponsors like what my my other, show that I'm talking about is gonna have. It's you. You are the sponsor of the show. If you would like if you found value in this show, there's several different ways that you can display the appreciation and show that the the value that we have provided.
And those are those ways are through time, talent, and treasure. Time is say you want to help us set up a, a Facebook group. Alright. Well, you set up a Facebook group. Let us know what it is so we can talk about it and share it out with everyone. Love to be able to talk be able to let the folks know the tape. We've got two grumpy vets to do that. And you're you can, you can lean it however you want. You apply the the the time and, as a means to say and thank you for what we do. If you are somebody who wants to be able to help in a different way, you've got a a certain talent. Maybe you're good at programming. Maybe you're good at graphic design. I love to use the graphic design because I'd love to start having some, chapter art and, start having, folks, start competing for what the, what the cover art would look like.
And, so you could do that. You could, submit, your your cover art over to us, and we would choose out which one and and and go from there. You can, you can do that. That's your talent, applying your talent, whatever your talent ends up being. Maybe you're a programmer. Again, maybe you would like to, apply the talent so that you create a, a a an app for for us where people can share, talk, and do all that type of stuff. You're that's a passion project for you. That's you applying your talent for, for two grumpy vets and dude, and that's one way. Another way that you can contribute value back. The third way is treasure, and that's just what it sounds like where you're applying however much money you think we're worth.
Did we apply did we make you laugh and you you, would like to, to contribute, you know, a little bit of money. However much money? I don't know. Just however much money you think is proper and be able to contribute there. And if you you decide you wanna contribute, I'll, you can go to 2grumpyvets.com, and you will see value for value there. And you can actually click a the link and go to PayPal and pay set up a a reoccurring donation or just do a onetime donation, whichever one. We're not demanding of it. We do ask. We do make the ask that, hey. If you find find that we could made you, made created some type of value in your life, then please return the value to us in some other in some other form, fashion, or another, and whether it's time, talent, and or treasure.
And, that would that's how life works in general. You apply you apply, the, you apply value, value's gonna come back to you. So that's that's the the heart of it all. And so if you found any value or you think you'd like to hear something, you think you got some other idea of how some value could be created, let us know. Shoot me an email over at CircleCast. That's [email protected]. You can also get ahold of Rich, and that's r Chelsea, c h e l s o n, r Chelsea at Gmail dot com. Either way, we could get a hold of it, and, we can, we can take your suggestions, see how we can apply it to, to the show. We'd love to be able to take your ideas, your thoughts, your discussions. And, we're still apparently, the guys who created and working on, podcasting two point o are still really trying to figure out how to get the monetization thing back into, in the line since the great, Albie Falloff because that, that really wrecked a whole lot of the plants. But that was what, that's actually what Adam Curry was real afraid of, that everybody got hooked up onto onto Albie, and then all of a sudden, Albie was going, oh, we can't do this no more late. And then we'd be stuck with what we're doing right now, whereas there's not much. You can't do you really can't do microtransactions.
Fountain's able to, through, I think they're they're using Nostra. I think a lot of people are kinda going towards the Nostra direction, but there's also Strike, and a couple other solutions. So they're they're trying they're still hammering it out, and I think sometime by the end of this, this year, they'll have a they'll have some type of solution going. So but by then, we'll be over a year old. So yay.
[02:50:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We're gonna be over a year old in April.
[02:50:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. So That's crazy. Yep. Need to go ahead. That reminds me, I need to get, need to go ahead and, renew the, the domain. So
[02:50:16] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:50:18] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, anyhow, so, guys with that, I wanna say, thank y'all very much again for everything you've done. Y'all have a great rest of the week. And, Rich, what do you got to say?
[02:50:32] Rich Chelson:
Oh, just thanks to everyone who keeps listening, keeps coming back, and just seeing what we're gonna say because I'm telling you, we're almost at at a 2,000 downloads, which is awesome. And, I'd it's I have fun doing this with y'all, and, it's cool that, you know, we get people that that wanna listen, keep listening, and even download our back catalog. Yep. It that just still blows my mind. Yo, Winger does
[02:51:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It does. Listen to the old shit, man. Said why are you listening to the old shit?
[02:51:14] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. I I don't know. But, you know, hey. I'm I'm not I'm not gonna question it. I'm just gonna enjoy it. You know? Oh. In fact in fact, when we started this show tonight, I looked at the numbers, and we were at, like, at nineteen eighteen. And, say we had had February 10, we'd had 25 downloads. And eleventh, we had 10, and that was it. And just since we've been on, these last couple hours, we've had 21,
[02:51:55] Bryan Goodwin:
just in the time we've been Oh, so we've had some people come on during because of the live. Obviously. Obviously. And I wonder if that is Fountain because I think Fountain advertises announces all the, all the live.
[02:52:14] Rich Chelson:
I believe it is Fountain. I'm not sure. I'm not a % sure on that, but still, it's I mean, we've had 21 downloads just since we've been doing this live podcast this evening. So because we didn't have any for, for, today when we started. So this has just happened in the last couple hours. So that's that's why that's why I'm glad that, everything is, that everyone keeps listening. You know? It's it Absolutely. It's just awesome. But, yeah, like, Brian said, you know, reach out. You know, if you wanna help with, cover art, because I'm not very I'm not a very good cover artist.
[02:52:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Just saying. Becoming better at at the, at the AI prompt jockey in, though.
[02:53:02] Rich Chelson:
That I am. I I ain't gonna lie. I'm using AI. You know? I I don't go too crazy with it, but, you know, it's just yeah. Me and trying to find good cover art is just yeah. It's hard. But it you know? But yeah. So, yeah, we need help with that and then, yeah, chapter art and all that. So yeah. Yeah. If you could do that better than me, come on. I I can use the help. I'm not gonna lie. I could use the help. So but, yeah, email us. Let us know what you wanna hear, talk about, have us talk about, wanna hear what our thoughts are. You email [email protected] or me at, [email protected], and we will definitely love to hear from you and, hear what you think. So that's about all I got. Dude, you got anything?
You awake over there? Uh-oh. I thought I heard David snoring when I was talking.
[02:54:12] Bryan Goodwin:
He passed out.
[02:54:14] Rich Chelson:
He probably is. Took his drugs too early is what it was. Yeah. Dude. What? Wake up. You there?
[02:54:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Well No. Dude, I'm sure he would have a a plethora, of great and insightful thoughts to have also. So we will, we'll make them double up next week then. Okay. Okay. That works. So alright. Well, guys, y'all take care, dude. You have a good night. Sleep tight. And, and, Rich, we'll talk to you next week. Alright? Alright, man. Be safe. Later. Later.
[02:54:58] Rich Chelson:
Later. Bye. Bye.
Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to Two Grumpy vets and a duuude, this is a show that each week allows for three friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living, having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the duuude.
[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:
Dude.
[00:00:37] Duuude-Ron :
What's going on?
[00:00:38] Rich Chelson:
What's up, man?
[00:00:40] Duuude-Ron :
Not much.
[00:00:42] Rich Chelson:
Don't know where Brian's at.
[00:00:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Who knows?
[00:00:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't know.
[00:00:51] Duuude-Ron :
He's ODFF, out deaf fucking flapping.
[00:00:57] Rich Chelson:
You know you know, he was Navy, so they just drive around the ocean and, half the time, don't know where they're going anyway.
[00:01:09] Duuude-Ron :
Pretty much. You know, that that would be fun to actually be at the steering wheel of a fucking aircraft carrier. You know that?
[00:01:21] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shoot. That yeah. Battleship, aircraft carrier, any anything that big. Dude, that would be like that would, like, freaking give me a hard on, man.
[00:01:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:01:33] Rich Chelson:
It would. I mean, just think. You're the one driving that son of a bitch. Yep. The biggest thing in that country. You know?
[00:01:45] Duuude-Ron :
Pretty much. The only thing you're gonna get bigger than that is the fucking, container ships.
[00:01:54] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:01:55] Duuude-Ron :
So,
[00:01:57] Unknown:
yeah, I think, Brian did Brian just come on? Because he's I just came on board.
[00:02:03] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We was
[00:02:05] Duuude-Ron :
you sound like you're very beginning sound like you're doing Chinese cellular.
[00:02:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I probably was.
[00:02:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Trying to get your earbud earbuds hooked up. Yeah. Trying to get the mic the podcast
[00:02:19] Bryan Goodwin:
rig all set up. So
[00:02:21] Rich Chelson:
Now we was talking about, well, dude popped on, and you hadn't popped on. And I I said to dude, I said, well, Brian ain't on. He's like, oh, well. He's he's ODFF. I dare flapping around. And, I'm like I'm like, yeah. Yeah. He was navy. So, you know, they just drive around the sea, you know, not knowing where they're going anyways. So Well, I mean, there there's no landmarkers. Right. But but, yeah, we was talking about how cool it would be to drive an aircraft carrier, a battleship, or anything that big.
[00:03:02] Bryan Goodwin:
It would be inter it's interesting. But at the same time, I mean, the only thing that's really cool about it, from what I've seen whenever I'm up on the, was up on the bridge, was that, was that it just took a little wheel. A little control? That whole damn thing.
[00:03:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know.
[00:03:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Very small wheel. Almost the what? Pretty much the same size as the regular steering wheel for the Well, it's bigger than that, but still, I mean, it's, you know, it's probably good. Oh, fad guess. Probably about three feet in, in diameter. No. Oh, okay.
[00:03:48] Duuude-Ron :
About two and a half feet in diameter. Or,
[00:03:51] Bryan Goodwin:
yeah. Yeah. Three feet in diameter.
[00:03:54] Duuude-Ron :
And, boy, that would be fucking cool to fly a fucking aircraft carrier, especially doing, trial or a no. During a before he actually gets commissioned and they go out there and Oh, sea trials. Sea trials. Yeah. Driving that son of a bitch during sea trials.
[00:04:17] Rich Chelson:
Oh, driving that bitch like I was drunk, man.
[00:04:20] Duuude-Ron :
That would be the fucking bomb. Yeah. And, you know, good thing about it is you wouldn't hit anything. That's for sure.
[00:04:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Oh, no. Nope. Because the Kitty Hawk actually ran over, you a Soviet sub once.
[00:04:33] Duuude-Ron :
Really? Oh, yeah.
[00:04:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, the sub the sub
[00:04:38] Bryan Goodwin:
shouldn't have been in its way. Well, that's kinda what I'm saying. I was like, dude, we're not you're the one that was all being all sneaky and stuff trying to hide out from us. So it wasn't while I was on there. I think it was, like, in the early eighties, so I was still bebopping around in kindergarten.
[00:04:57] Unknown:
Oh, you know, I guess the I guess the sub did not give the aircraft carrier the right away.
[00:05:04] Duuude-Ron :
Nope. And what is it? And what's it take to do a u-turn on a freaking air care carry about fucking nine miles?
[00:05:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It probably takes a couple miles to to turn. I don't know what exactly what the, what the turning radius is, but it it's a bit. I mean, it's visible. Actually, I'm if I had to guess, it's probably actually less than, less than an actual mile to flip a bitch, but it's really cool if they have to if they have to do a hard turn. Uh-huh. And you look out over, you're out on the, on the aft, aft deck. Man, that, you sit there and watch that, watch that, weight just, curving off to the side. Yeah. It's it's cool looking.
[00:05:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. The biggest boat I've ever been on oh, fuck. Riding in a shit. Just a regular fucking boat, I guess. Fishing boat. You have to fish your boat? Well Nothing nothing too big.
[00:06:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, I looked it up because I was, like, inquiring minds wanna know here. Uh-huh. The turning radius of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier, which I believe the the Kitty Hawk was. Right? No. No. It was
[00:06:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Nimitz is is a, is is a nuclear class, and, Kitty Hawk was a oil burner.
[00:06:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, really? Okay. But but, anyway, it says, it says, like, USS Ronald Reagan, I guess it's a Nimitz class Yep. Is approximately, 3,450 feet at a speed of 30 knots. In other words, it it it takes about three quarters of a mile to turn around. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds about right. At a 30 knots. Now it says it can do a 80 degree turn at high speed,
[00:07:19] Bryan Goodwin:
but it it Yeah. But you're gonna make sure everything is trapped down before they do one of those. Yeah. Because you will that pup will be laid leaning over hard.
[00:07:32] Rich Chelson:
Mhmm. So, yeah, roughly roughly about three quarters of a mile is what it takes to turn to turn one of them big son bitches around. So
[00:07:47] Duuude-Ron :
That's why I said c doing c trials, that would be the bomb. Mhmm. Yeah. So, Brian, that video that you sent me
[00:08:00] Bryan Goodwin:
What'd y'all think of that? Holy shit.
[00:08:03] Duuude-Ron :
They I I have that actually came up on my Facebook. And, you know, I don't know which one was first, but she was talking about owning a Cadillac Escalade.
[00:08:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. No. I found her I found her profile
[00:08:23] Duuude-Ron :
here at And now she has a talk. And now she has a BMW, so I guess she has both. Hell, you know, fuck yeah.
[00:08:34] Rich Chelson:
You wanna fucking
[00:08:36] Duuude-Ron :
try to get government assistance that so many people fucking actually need, and you have not only a Cadillac Escalade, but a BMW. And if you want your, you know, benefits back, you need to steal the fucking car. Hell fucking yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think and one of them was that, she lost her benefits, and they issued her a notice that she had to repay the past twelve months of benefits. Fuck. Yeah.
[00:09:23] Bryan Goodwin:
You know, it's it's gonna Well, here I mean, besides for the DHS, it's forcing me to sell my 02/2024 BMW, which the more I look at this and stuff, the more I'm thinking maybe this chick might be a bit there's something just not quite on the on the up and up with her bitching. I almost wonder if she is trying to just go for for, go for, you know, just audience attraction? Because, I mean, besides for the DHS is forcing me to sell my 02/2024 BMW or my food stamps gets cut, which I'm still trying to figure out. If she was a actually, if that's actually legit, if that is truly what's happened to her, how did she do that?
How did she put and, and I know people do it because I've seen people who have food stamps and get into Cadillac Escalades with an iPhone and a Louis Vuitton handbag.
[00:10:32] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yep.
[00:10:39] Bryan Goodwin:
And it's like, how? How the hell do you what is the what what's the secret to working that type of system? Because how do you hide that type of income? Because you do have to report EBT to or to, the welfare, place usually about once every six months, sometimes one and maybe at the longest once a year.
[00:11:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because and I'm sure that a lot of them and I don't know. Probably day laborers and get paid by cash.
[00:11:22] Bryan Goodwin:
But she gets paid, I mean, according to what, what she claims, and I'm gonna have to say claim really strongly because, again, I'm not really buying everything she says. I think she's I think probably about another week, two weeks down the road, we're gonna find out that, this is a bunch of bunch of BS, and I'll I'll I'll tell you why in here a bit. Because then she another one that she has is my EBT card was just declined. They took everything. No food stamps, disability, cash benefits, and childcare. What am I going to do? And then out of nowhere is one that says, dear trans community, please don't expect me to accept who you are when you couldn't accept yourself for who you are.
So that sounds very right wingish. And, yes, I I understand. There are plenty of right wingers who will take advantage of the system too. And it's very possible that if she is actually busted for doing what she did I mean, one, there it is welfare fraud.
[00:12:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:12:33] Bryan Goodwin:
But because to be able to bring in enough money to and and still, the thing that blows my mind is $4,000 worth of food stamps. I mean, did she put down that she had she had the, cheaper by the dozen family?
[00:12:58] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. One of them that that she had or she says she has had seven kids.
[00:13:04] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So she she's closer to eight is enough.
[00:13:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yes.
[00:13:09] Bryan Goodwin:
But still I'm sorry. When I was on food stamps, and I used to be on food stamps with three kids, our food stamps were still not a thousand dollars. Our food stamps were, I think, was about $5,600. I had a friend who who, who actually did have five kids. And, yeah, they got close to a thousand
[00:13:43] Duuude-Ron :
But what year was that? Roughly.
[00:13:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, that was see. How long has they have they been that had to have been, ten, fifteen years ago when they lived Okay. They lived close close enough to where we we knew that they had. Because all their kids are now grown and out of the house.
[00:14:10] Duuude-Ron :
But Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.
[00:14:13] Bryan Goodwin:
But still, I mean, it's to have $4,000 worth of food stamps. And, of course, she also complains about having her cash assistance, which, in in Texas, it was called TANF. And you only got TANF if you if you had no no boyfriend, no husband, no extra help coming in, you got a little bit and when I say a little bit of cash assist I mean, a little bit bit of cash assistance. Because before me and, Jana got married, she was and and stuff, she was on Tana for a bit. And Okay. That was you know, she got again, this is in the nineties. So she got maybe $50 in
[00:15:12] Rich Chelson:
cash. Maybe.
[00:15:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And then she's in Section 8. The claim she's in section eight. I'll just claim because this is what she claims. I don't I'm begin the more I talk about it, the more I'm I I'm starting to kinda think. Are you thinking now? Well, I am because I'm looking at more to see. She's got, one from five days ago, that has the, the state the the the, title of the state is making me pay back over $40,000 in food stamps and cash benefits because, what I do for work, which I'm not sure. I don't think you can make that freaking much money on TikTok. I mean, you possibly can, but let's see here. How much does how what is the size of her?
She's only got a, only a 19,000 lot, followers, which is a lot, but that's not enough to fans page must be outrageous. She may have an only fans. I mean so but, the state but then she also says when was this? Let's see here. When was this? Oh, hell. This is k. This says back in 01/18, the state gave me all my welfare benefits back, plus getting more in food stamps than I was, and I got my, utilities, shut off paid. Okay. And the the one that everybody's got really got the fluff on, kicked off in in February. So, again, I mean, it's like something something's just we're not jiving here.
Because January 26, DHS took my food stamps, cash, and disability for, dumping pop out from a for a 10¢ deposit and then reported me to the state. What am I going to do now? What? I'm sorry. No. I call bullshit on that one.
[00:17:32] Duuude-Ron :
You know, and I saw that one myself. It's like, me personally, you're gonna fucking advertise your business. Basically, you said fuck around and find out. And she fucked around and found out, you know, that it's gonna fucking suck. You abuse the system. But see, you again, I I fucking I don't know her from Ademer's or, Ademer's house cat. You know, she's I guess she's from Massachusetts. I don't know.
[00:18:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But there's something just there there's something fishy about this profile.
[00:18:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But there and there are, honestly, a lot of people that could use it and need it. But, again, if you're honest, you ain't gonna get it. If you fucking Yeah. Like like It just I don't know. Why? Just does not yeah. Lot of people what? Did I lose it? You know? It it just Did y'all lose me? Oh, there you are. No. Are you there?
[00:18:54] Bryan Goodwin:
You there? Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm here now.
[00:18:57] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. No. I'm here. You're there.
[00:19:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Wherever there is. I'm hearing you. You hearing me?
[00:19:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yes. I am.
[00:19:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Rich, are you hearing me?
[00:19:12] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I'm hearing you. Okay. Okay.
[00:19:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Just wanting to But you're not I'm in a I'm kinda in a iffy spot. So
[00:19:21] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, the problem is is you're not hearing you. Everybody else can hear you,
[00:19:27] Bryan Goodwin:
but you can't hear you. Well, you well, I'm not hearing I I hear you, and then all of a sudden, you just kinda be talking and nothing. And I'm like
[00:19:38] Duuude-Ron :
Hey. Well, you know what? You probably need to get rid of the earbuds or get some new ones or just not wear them.
[00:19:44] Rich Chelson:
Well, then I wouldn't be able to hear you at all.
[00:19:49] Duuude-Ron :
You don't have a speaker on your computer?
[00:19:53] Bryan Goodwin:
I do. But if I'm gonna record, I'd rather go ahead and go through a microphone. Oh, okay. Well well So
[00:20:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It would sound a whole for what? Sounds a whole lot better. Yeah.
[00:20:07] Bryan Goodwin:
But
[00:20:08] Duuude-Ron :
so but yeah. I mean What the more I look at? So much better. What the hell sounds so much better if you have earphones on or not having earphones on? It's not the earphones.
[00:20:17] Bryan Goodwin:
It's not the earphones at all. It is the microphone. That sounds a lot better. Okay. So You know what? I will have to believe you because
[00:20:32] Duuude-Ron :
I don't have a microphone. I just have, you know, where I talk in the phone at, and
[00:20:40] Bryan Goodwin:
I guess And that does typically pretty good. So but, but when you go to, like, a, like, a laptop microphone, it's more of a condenser, so you can hear a lot more of the room noise, and it's nowhere near as as good as as a as a dynamic in a regular room. Now if we were to be in a in a, in a in a recording booth, we would want a condenser microphone because that helps capture the full range of a person's voice. While if you're the but, again, the only problem is is that if you go out outside of a recording booth, you can hear a cricket fart at the end of the block. So you hear everything.
[00:21:43] Duuude-Ron :
You know, I would I would have to believe you because I've never been in that situation, you know, with the microphone, the headphones, all that other stuff. It's just you know?
[00:21:54] Bryan Goodwin:
What was the name of the there was I was listening to an audiobook, and it was I think it was called something along the lines of, like, how to unfuck your mind. It was something like that. It was a basically, it was a liberal woman who was trying to be edgy and stuff. And so she was trying to use the f bomb every third word. And, it was one of those words. She said the f word that dropped an f bomb so much became distracting. And you know what it was. Because as she she would be talking or she'd be doing her book and blah blah blah blah, and there'd be this effing bit and effing this and effing this and this and this and this and that and that and effing this. And then she would get to talking and she would fall into her rhythm again, and the f bombs would fade away.
And then you would she would, you could tell. She would almost you could almost hear the click of, oh, hello. I'm not being edgy enough. I need to f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f and f. It was it's just like, oh, but the problem that I had with it wasn't even so much all the f bombs. It was sounded like she was recording in the bathroom. There was so much room noise and reverb and and echoes and everything else that, one, it sounded like she was recording from about 30 feet away.
And all the room noise, she had her gain apparently, she had her gain turned up to 30. And it was just the I I I finished the book because there was some really interesting aspects to what she was covering, but I couldn't give a I couldn't I couldn't recommend that book to anybody. I mean, when it got done and it and Audible asked for a review, it was one star across the board. It was like it was unlistenable. And everybody else was like, well, you know, this is what happens when you record in your, when you try to be edgy and record in your bathroom.
It was like everybody was like, there's so much echo. It's too much echo. Oh my god. And so yeah.
[00:24:11] Duuude-Ron :
You know, it was all of us and all of us that have been in the military, yes, the f bomb flies a lot. But that's just, you know, our conversation. That's how we have learned to talk is with the f bomb. And and there's nothing wrong. But even then,
[00:24:32] Bryan Goodwin:
y'all the the military doesn't use the f bomb every other word. And I mean, there was times it was literally this effing dog effing walked effing across the effing street and effing peed on the effing hydrant. And it's like, son of a gun, man. Are you serious? You are not being edgy. You are not being cool. You were you're like a little 12 year old who just learned how to say the word and you wanna you try to be cool and so you're saying it every time you can.
[00:25:06] Duuude-Ron :
You know, after about thirty seconds of that, I would've just shut the shit off. Exactly. It got it it like I said, it got it it got distracting.
[00:25:14] Bryan Goodwin:
And, honestly, you can tell the liberal the the liberated liberal woman because of how much they cuss. Because they will drop the f bomb any chance they can. Thinking that I don't know. I guess I'm assuming that it they think that it gives them power, it gives them legitimacy. And, okay, you can drop an f bomb at times when you think you need to, but it you loses all power. It's like, you know, how they like to drop the just call everybody racist. Back in the eighties, you said racist. Everybody was like, oh my god. I'm no racist. Uh-huh. And everybody changed their attitude because all of a sudden, you're being called racist. And now, you know, it's it's gotten so bad that somebody calls you racist. You're like, oh, alright. Alright. Whatever you say so. And you carry on.
[00:26:10] Duuude-Ron :
You know? And I've never been considered racist Only because I hate I hate everybody Equally. Everybody equally. I don't hate this person any more than I hate this person. I hate just everybody equally.
[00:26:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Everybody equally annoys the shit out of you.
[00:26:29] Duuude-Ron :
That's right. So, you know, I could never be called racist because I hated everybody equally. Right. You're just a if you're a dumbass, you're a dumbass. You know? Doesn't matter what color skin that the where you've come doesn't matter. If you're a dumbass, you're a dumbass. Right.
[00:26:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:52] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yeah, I I think I'm gonna have to if I have a good guess, I bet you this, this lady's gonna probably pop up on Brett Cooper show here within the next couple three days. And so we'll get a we'll get a new, a a different view. And I bet you Brett Cooper likes to kinda dig a little bit, and something tells me this is this is this is, fabricated.
[00:27:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, again,
[00:27:23] Bryan Goodwin:
she fucked around and found out how Oh, yeah. I mean, if she it's true. She found out hard. She got at at the end, the lady on that on that video who did the stitch of it, just like, baby, it looks like you just got doged.
[00:27:37] Duuude-Ron :
So Yes. Yes. You just got doged. And, you know, how many people are just disgusted with her? You know, there's okay. There's a what? You said she has a 99,000 followers? 19. Yeah. 19. Okay. How many of those you think actually think like her?
[00:28:11] Bryan Goodwin:
I, you know, not a % sure.
[00:28:15] Duuude-Ron :
I guarantee you probably 80% of her audience just let just listens for the, what's the word zone? What words I'm looking for? The, not the annoying factor. The the drama factor. The, yeah, the drama, the shock factor. The Yeah. That's probably the only reason why she has those followers is for for the shock value. Right. And and then I'm sure that they're fucking rolling their eyes. And it's like, you know what? You just need to shut the hell up. Yep. I don't and I you have it's
[00:28:57] Bryan Goodwin:
more than likely I would have to say, guys. I just I don't know. I bet you come coming this next week, we're gonna we're gonna come up we're gonna find a lot more information from this gal. So or about this gal. So
[00:29:17] Duuude-Ron :
well, if it comes up on my Facebook feed, you know, I'll see it, but I sure the hell ain't gonna fucking go
[00:29:27] Bryan Goodwin:
go pursue it. Oh, come on.
[00:29:31] Duuude-Ron :
I'll I'll put it to you like this. I won't pursue it because you're already there. You can just update me and give me the, you know, the highlight. Oh, okay. That's all I need is the highlights. I don't I got enough fucking drama in my life. No. You never have enough drama, man. I don't know what you're talking about. I know. That, you know, I don't need to hear about anybody. I don't give a fuck about anybody else's drama. I got I got enough of of my own to last me a lifetime. So
[00:30:12] Bryan Goodwin:
so what else is going on in y'all's world? No. That's a damn good question. Wow. I am blown away. I mean, not everybody talk at once.
[00:30:27] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. No shit. Other than work, which is, you know, pretty much the same day in, day out, just have to deal with, deal with fucking idiots. Yeah. I got behind a, a dually hauling a car carrier and on 36 coming back from Abilene. And this there was nobody behind me. Nobody behind me. But they had to pull out in front of me. Well, yeah. And then do 55 in a 70. Alright. You could've just fucking waited for me to go by, and then it you wanna if you wanna fucking dick around, knock yourself out.
[00:31:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Just do it behind me. But they then they would have to drive faster.
[00:31:30] Rich Chelson:
You fucking think?
[00:31:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Because they'd have to try to keep up with you.
[00:31:36] Duuude-Ron :
I don't care.
[00:31:38] Bryan Goodwin:
If they had to try to keep up friend to be what to to go with them. They were going to get off the jeered.
[00:31:44] Duuude-Ron :
And the trailer was fucking that they were hauling was empty.
[00:31:48] Bryan Goodwin:
It's like, god. You know what? It's not like the fucking didn't even have any animals to keep them company. They needed you.
[00:32:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. If you gotta fucking drive on the road. And I'm governed. So I'm already five miles an hour under the speed limit. Well, I can't help it. And I had a semi, you know, was trying to pass me, and there was a long stretch. And why he didn't pass me on that long stretch is beyond me. And then he was edging on the line, So I just put the hazard lights on and fucking let him see and wave him forward and slow down. It's like, you know what? Just yeah. Get the fuck around me. And he was then I lost sight of him until there was till the two lane went down to one lane.
And, you know, you have flagmen stopping you. So I was three vehicles behind him sitting there. Oh, yeah. So yeah. I just hope to hell, and I know I'm not hoping. I know that I will never when I fucking hit in my seventies and eighties, will never drive like that.
[00:33:33] Bryan Goodwin:
He Rich, you know who how he's gonna drive whenever he turns eleventy. Right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's gonna be doing 25 in the 70. Yep. In his Jeep. Because you can't have the you can't have the Jeep the Jeep, you know, side to side rocking anymore because, you know, oh, oh, my my my tip over.
[00:33:57] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I don't fucking think so. I'll be doing 75 in the 70, honking my horn wanting to get
[00:34:07] Bryan Goodwin:
get the fuck out of my way. You're gonna have one of those you're gonna have a bird that's strapped to to the top of your Jeep, so all you have to do is pull a cord and it
[00:34:20] Duuude-Ron :
You lost me on that one.
[00:34:23] Bryan Goodwin:
You gotta pull a cord down. You're gonna have you're gonna have a big old number one finger coming up.
[00:34:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, there you go. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. As a matter of fact, one day, there's only really one more modification that I wanna put on my Jeep. And one day, I will do that because a friend of mine works at a railroad,
[00:34:45] Bryan Goodwin:
and he's already owes me Oh, you want some train horns?
[00:34:48] Duuude-Ron :
He owes me a set of train horns because he said he had some that he would give me. So one of these days, I'm gonna get a set of five train horns, put them up underneath my j or my Jeep. You know, I'll drill a hole and put them on the frame so that they don't get damaged as I'm wheeling. I won't fucking get a train horn for my fucking Jeep. You're in my way. I'll blast that motherfucker.
[00:35:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Scary shit real. Train horns, just know that your your even your air tanks. If you blast your air tanks or blast a and a real train horn with your with a semi truck air tanks, you'll drain that son of a bitch down about 65, PSI, if not lower, for just a quick blow. So you you wanna have a lot of air. So you might have to drive around with a compressor in your back seat connected up to a a power inverter. Watch them driving around.
[00:35:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. You will you will need a,
[00:36:00] Bryan Goodwin:
a A lot of freaking air.
[00:36:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. For for an actual set of train horns, yeah, your the the air tank alone would would, take up the back of your Jeep. And that's that's not counting a compressor that that has to be attached to it to supply the air because just the truck, the regular semi, train horns that are air powered, yeah, those will those will drop, drop you down ten, fifteen pounds for about a two second blast.
[00:36:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, really? Yeah. And stuff like that. They do have, electric train horns. Basically, what it does is it's just a big it's a it's a powerful fan that moves the air through the horn trumpets.
[00:36:49] Duuude-Ron :
Well, maybe I could put those fans on all the trumpets. There you go. Just. Something like that.
[00:36:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because, on when I drove a big truck, I had a set of train horns, and they were the actual air powered.
[00:37:04] Duuude-Ron :
And Uh-huh.
[00:37:05] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Just a quick blast, and I would lose 10 pounds of air. And it's Oh, wow. Yeah. Just a. Just that. And I lost 10 pounds of air.
[00:37:18] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. Because I know that my primary tank is probably and they're right in front of my drive tires. I'd say they're probably two feet wide by about 14 inches from side to side.
[00:37:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's, they'll do a, they'll do a, truck set, but not an actual train horn set.
[00:37:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Apparently, you can buy some some super loud train. I don't know how well they actual work, but according to the YouTube videos, they're and there are a lot of people kinda like them, but, for about, 20 anywhere from 20 to $50.
[00:38:09] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I've seen them as well. I thought about that, but it's like, you know what? I'll just, since the one guy owes me some train horns, I'll I'll rig I'll get the Rigbrothers to help me and, you know, set up those horns.
[00:38:29] Rich Chelson:
Well well, you do know you can tune train horns. Right?
[00:38:34] Duuude-Ron :
I had no clue.
[00:38:36] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You adjust the bells. The the, the tubes are called bells.
[00:38:44] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Okay.
[00:38:45] Rich Chelson:
Turn them, in or out to to adjust the tone.
[00:38:52] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:38:54] Rich Chelson:
Because, yeah, I'm just Well, I just wanna Just throw them on and just screw them down tight, and it's more of a high pitched. If you want it deeper, you, roll it out a little bit.
[00:39:05] Duuude-Ron :
I just wanna get get your fucking attention, especially if you're on the goddamn cell phone.
[00:39:12] Bryan Goodwin:
What's fun also is, go off and get one of those horns that's actually got a voice recording. You can actually record your voice on it. Wow. And use that. Get the fuck out of the way.
[00:39:31] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. They used to have, you know, the speakers through the CVs too. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I've I got my new truck and my old truck, and my old, old truck didn't have a CB. But the new truck has a CB. I ain't even fucking hooked it up yet and turned it on.
[00:39:57] Rich Chelson:
Why not? But I don't know.
[00:40:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Because I'm lazy, I guess. Okay. Probably probably because I wanna fucking once I get my damn load, I wanna get on the fucking road.
[00:40:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I don't I don't have a radio anymore just because I can't stand the damn funny channel. Damn thing has got so much freaking garbage and shit on there. You can't hear anybody talk. And everybody's talking about not having panties on and and and white buffalos in a brown paper bag and other bullshit. And he's like, no. No. Thank you.
[00:40:33] Rich Chelson:
Don't care. I
[00:40:35] Duuude-Ron :
take it that's channel nineteen? Yep. That's your damn funny channel. Yeah. Okay. No. The only thing that I would and fuck. I don't even need it for that is, you know, for traffic. You know? Do you know, truckers say they're going northbound, and, hey, if you're going southbound on 35, you got an accident here, you know, truck's burning up
[00:41:00] Bryan Goodwin:
type. Yeah. The sad part is is hardly anybody has I mean, you really can't most truck drivers are are very few of them actually have c b's anymore, and all you've got are the damn base stations that sit there and flood everybody with all their bullshit.
[00:41:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You don't get traffic reports or cop reports anymore on a CB.
[00:41:22] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. No. And, you know That's been gone. And that's you know, I could fucking pull up Google map and it'll show me that that the fucking road is red. That means the traffic has stopped. Right. Okay. For how long? You know, half a mile, third of a mile, two miles.
[00:41:42] Bryan Goodwin:
10
[00:41:43] Duuude-Ron :
miles. Yeah. So, yeah, I can get the information just as well off of fucking Google Maps Right. For that matter. You know? And eventually, if I pass it, I'll see what the hell is going on like this. They had a truck. It was a couple weeks ago coming onto an exit ramp, and the fucking, the crushed barriers before cement wall. Probably about I'd say that thing used to be a good 20 feet. Now it's about four, if that, because it is all smashed to hell. And that truck was on the going up the ramp, and there was a, a cement wall on either side. And the truck was over the cement wall, going back onto the interstate, which was only about probably three feet high.
So once he hit that that freaking, that guardrail or the smash barrier, he just went to fucking all just yeah. And by the time I passed it, the only thing left of the truck was the frame and the engine, and, obviously, the metal suspension. That was all that was left of that the tractor. Trailer was on its side. The trailer was on its side. It had it the trailer didn't catch fire, but you could see where the fire from the truck affected the trailer.
[00:43:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. So it started melting the trailer too?
[00:43:39] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I guess so. It the front part of the trailer, it was black. So it was getting soot and whatever from the tractor and the heat. Okay. You know? But it it never looked like the trailer actually combusted. Yeah. That did not look good at all. And that one was backed up probably, oh, couple miles. Yeah. Well and because they had it down to fucking, the interstate, you there was only one lane on the interstate all the way on the left hand side because they had all the the firefighting vehicles, you know, that it just Right. Yeah. Extinguished the fire. They were on the interstate because the tractor was hanging over that wall.
Oh. And then when I got by, they were lifting it up or just started to lift it up. But, yeah, frame, engine, and chassis were the only things left. Yeah. It was kinda
[00:44:50] Bryan Goodwin:
ugly. I'm like Yeah. Sounds like it.
[00:44:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. That guy was having a very, very bad day.
[00:44:57] Bryan Goodwin:
It sounds like it for sure.
[00:45:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I think if I had that happen to me, they'd probably fire me. We do not need your driving skills anymore for this, company, so you just have yourself a wonderful day. Goodbye now. Goodbye. Goodbye.
[00:45:18] Bryan Goodwin:
So good, boss.
[00:45:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Sure thing, boss. So we got I don't know what the weather is like where you're at, Brian, but it let's see. I think our high today was 45. 30 mile an hour gusting winds. Went up to Abilene, it was 36 with probably 10 mile an hour winds. Fucking cold. So then, I guess, the Abilene shuttle could not go up to was it Amarillo? Yeah. I believe it was Amarillo because the Amarillo facility was shut down because there was ice on the road.
[00:46:05] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shit.
[00:46:07] Bryan Goodwin:
That's normal for Amarillo. What do you mean? We can't work. We got we got weather.
[00:46:15] Duuude-Ron :
Like Well, shit. Ain't no fucking place in fucking Texas gonna work if there's ice on the ground because they got no equipment whatsoever to support it. We drove just
[00:46:26] Bryan Goodwin:
we drove all over all over the place.
[00:46:29] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. So up in that Emerald area there?
[00:46:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Emerald, I'm I know that, Alexis, was, was out and about in it. And, I mean, hell, OKC was a skate rink all the way over to Shawnee. And, yeah, you just had to just go slow. Oh. Only thing that sucked is, you know, there's a couple times where you had to try to wiggle your way over to a, over to the rumble strips over on the shoulder on some of the hills because lose traction is kinda no. No. No. No. Okay. There we go. We're going. We're going. We're going. We're going. No. Where am I gonna make it?
[00:47:13] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Those are always fun. Those are always fun.
[00:47:17] Bryan Goodwin:
So that's, that's the most terrorizing thing.
[00:47:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And, you know, I'll go I'll go out in there. I say, I got no problem with that if I'm in my Jeep. I'm not.
[00:47:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I ain't doing a tractor trailer on that shit. That's I know I know I know I know more weight. You'd be actually you're a little safer being on there with the with the with all them with all them tires making contact and all the you know, having, you know, gross weight of 80,000 pounds just as long as they're going slow.
[00:47:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But I I try to always make sure that, you know, based upon what I see on the truck, you know, if I'm gonna have 26 pallets or if I'm gonna have 22 pallets, you know, based upon, you know, how many big cylinders I have versus how many small medical cylinders or VGLs, which are the cryogenic liquid containers.
[00:48:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay. You know? So we know that that was gonna be your laughing gas. It was very VGL was very good laughers.
[00:48:22] Duuude-Ron :
So No. Actually, VGL, from what we use that acronym, are the valves, vent, gas, liquid. Those those are the three valves that are on the vessel. Gotcha. So we just commonly call them that, but the their actual name is from the inventor, which is a Dewer, d e w e r. Yeah. Dewer. That that's the name of them because that's who invented it. Who invented it. Yeah. The Durer valve. Yeah. Well, or the vessel and, you know, the the vacuum aspect and all that stuff to keep the liquid liquid and you know? Yeah. Because that angular vacuum because there's actually two, vessels. There's the outer shell, and then there's one on the inside.
And there's about two inches of space all the way around Right. That
[00:49:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Because vacuums don't transmit, heat very well. So
[00:49:33] Duuude-Ron :
Well and it it keeps the liquid in a liquid state versus burning it into gas.
[00:49:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Precisely. Yeah.
[00:49:41] Duuude-Ron :
So and you have to have a I can't remember. It's been so long ago since I worked on those, what the vacuum rate is, but we have to get it down to point zero negative point zero zero one
[00:50:02] Bryan Goodwin:
for a vacuum. That's a hundredth of an atmosphere.
[00:50:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Basically, space.
[00:50:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Mhmm.
[00:50:11] Duuude-Ron :
And that just keeps the liquid from boiling.
[00:50:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep.
[00:50:15] Duuude-Ron :
And, of course, boiling for oxygen is negative negative one forty nine is the boiling point where it turns into gas. Oh, okay.
[00:50:28] Bryan Goodwin:
So and then all The only thing I really know about liquid oxygen is that it's actually a really pretty color blue.
[00:50:38] Rich Chelson:
Really? Yep.
[00:50:42] Duuude-Ron :
It's always what? The liquid itself?
[00:50:44] Bryan Goodwin:
The liquid itself. Yeah. Liquid oxygen is actually blue.
[00:50:49] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, wow. Well, when it comes out the vent, it's white, but it's also at that point in time, it's already trying to turn back into a gaseous state. Right. Yeah. So you don't see the blue. It's just white. But I did I didn't know that oxygen liquid oxygen was blue. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:51:14] Bryan Goodwin:
That's my random fact of the day.
[00:51:18] Duuude-Ron :
So there we go. I'm glad I'm glad we got that cleared up. I would I would honestly not have been able to sleep tonight. Well, you know, if I did not know that random fact. Well, sometimes, you know, you don't know enough to know that you don't know. Ain't that a bitch? I know it is.
[00:51:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So so, Rich, how about you? What have you done today?
[00:51:47] Rich Chelson:
I just did a couple paintings.
[00:51:49] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah? So what,
[00:51:52] Bryan Goodwin:
how many are you up to now?
[00:51:55] Rich Chelson:
Shit. I don't know. I haven't counted them. I've got well, I got four canvases. I got the two I did earlier this week, and they should be about, dry enough to handle more. Okay. And then the two I just did today, and one of them because, you know, I'd I had told y'all I had gotten, I had gotten a lot of or some new paints. Well Yeah. One set of the new paints I got, and it kinda bummed me out because I was really liking the colors ahead. It was a box of 24 different colors. And, I went to start mixing them, and they had gotten froze
[00:52:40] Bryan Goodwin:
because Oh, yeah. You don't freeze. Don't get don't let,
[00:52:45] Rich Chelson:
No. And and it wasn't me. This this is the way I got them. You know? But when I went to mixing them, yeah, it was it was like curdled milk.
[00:52:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It It's chunky. Frozen frozen, acrylic just is nasty.
[00:53:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And so, I still went and you know, I mean, I had, like, four or five colors mixed and because, you know, I was I was hoping it would, you know, smooth out and stuff. And and then I went to pour it, and it was like, yeah. That's not gonna work. So I took some paper.
[00:53:25] Duuude-Ron :
Can you smash can you smash them out and make it smooth?
[00:53:30] Rich Chelson:
No. No? Okay. No. No. When when acrylic paint paint freezes and and you go and try and use it, yeah, it's done. You just can't. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So when I had this lumpy mess of different colors on the canvas, I was like, yeah. That's not gonna work. So I took paper towels, and I scraped it all off. Scraped all of it off. Clean the canvas and got a second picture, on on on my Facebook page, not the first one with the purple, the second one.
[00:54:13] Duuude-Ron :
With all the black?
[00:54:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, the black and the different colors.
[00:54:18] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[00:54:19] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that was that messed up canvas that I wiped off and redid.
[00:54:27] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Because there's a there's a lot of black on that second one.
[00:54:34] Rich Chelson:
Kind of. Not really. I mean, it's got it's got a good range of,
[00:54:40] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. It looks like a big yeah. It looked like a big big flower.
[00:54:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. But, but, yeah, I did that, and I see. I got one, two, three, four, five, six. I think I got 10 of them now altogether.
[00:55:04] Bryan Goodwin:
So I was sitting here reading. Reading. Is there any way to save a rescue paint? And one of the things says, when is it too late? If the texture of the paint is stringy, lumpier, looks like hot as cheese. It's like, oh, there he goes. Nope. That's dead. So Yes. And so
[00:55:21] Rich Chelson:
so, I have to go to the UPS store tomorrow and, take this box of paints back and ship them back to Amazon, and I'm gonna get a refund. I'm gonna buy my paints from somewhere else.
[00:55:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, that no. That's good that they're giving you a refund for it. Oh, yeah. They yeah. Because they it just you know, I had,
[00:55:45] Rich Chelson:
you know, I was just you know, I was bummed out. You know? I'm like, alright. Fine. Screw y'all. Y'all wanna do that because, you know, because they, you know, some of these newer colors, I don't know. I just I just liked them. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. And I was wanting to try them out, and, yeah, it it didn't work. He it I mean, it made a just a mess and a half. I looked looked like a five year old in paint class,
[00:56:18] Duuude-Ron :
which, I mean, that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. You know? But No. There's you know, I'm sure that there are, you know, famous artists that have well, look at fucking what's his name's Jackson Pollock. Look at what's his name's soup cans, and they sell for fucking millions of dollars.
[00:56:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I just I just I just pulled it off, pulled all the paint off, wiped the canvas down, and poured right on right back on top of it.
[00:56:51] Bryan Goodwin:
That's that's the best thing. I mean, hell, that you've got artists have been known to reuse canvases multiple times.
[00:56:58] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. And and and, yeah, that's, you know, that's the thing. When when I was looking at this, you know, they're saying, you know, if you mess up, just fucking repaint over it. Or Yeah. You know, if it's still wet enough, wipe it off and redo it. You know? Change it. Yep. And that's yourself a squeegee. You can just But I will say I do like pouring on canvas more than I like pouring on canvas panels. Because, well, the the one with all the purple
[00:57:34] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. Yeah.
[00:57:36] Rich Chelson:
That one? Nah. I spun the fuck out of that motherfucker. Oh, I I mean, yeah, that that thing was going probably, I don't know, twenty, thirty revolutions per minute, if not more. I mean, I spun that bitch. And then it it slowed down and stopped, and I spun it the other way. Oh, yeah. I was I was I was having fun with the spinning.
[00:58:05] Duuude-Ron :
Well, now you just need to get a fucking drill. See how fast of a spin you can get with that.
[00:58:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, I need to keep I need to keep some color on the on canvass area. You know? I mean I mean, the goal is to leave some of the paint on the canvas. Okay.
[00:58:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Well That might there is this might be something you wanna look into. I don't know I don't know what they cost. I mean, I'm sure they're probably not cheap, but jewelers use they'll make, like, wax wax, copies of the ring, and they'll make molds out of them. And then they'll they'll, put liquid, you know, liquid metal, you know, liquid they'll heat up silver and liquefy it and put it in this in the crucible or whatever, you call it, and they will have a centrifugal, spinner. And they'll they'll sit there, spin it, wind it up, melt the, melt the the the, silver or gold down, and then they'll they'll let the the the spinner go. It's just spring it's loaded up with spring tension, and it'll sit there and it'll spin for for however long it needs to spin until all the, all the liquid metal goes into the, into the mold. And because it's hot and the mold itself, is made of wax, the wax gets burnt up, disappears, and it fills in all the crevices.
And, yeah, it's a it's a cool little way of doing it. And so you might be able to find something where you can do something like that, where you can spin it, you know, wind it up till it, till a certain level, and, you know, you know, you might find out that doing seven turns is enough to is fast enough, and then you set the, you you set the brake on it and add set your, your canvas down on there and then release the brake and just let it go to town.
[01:00:18] Rich Chelson:
Okay. I'm
[01:00:19] Duuude-Ron :
lost. Oh, let's see if I can find it.
[01:00:24] Rich Chelson:
Thanks. I'm not I'm not I I I'm not I for some reason, I'm not I'm not catching the concept.
[01:00:34] Duuude-Ron :
Well, the mold well, with the mold, they've heated up the Jewelry kits. The mold itself. And within the mold, obviously, you have with the ring, you have a lot of, crevice that need to get filled. And when you pour in the liquid with it spinning, it forces the liquid to fill up all those cavities on that spin.
[01:01:06] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But but how would that work on painting?
[01:01:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, instead of having the the the well, here. I'll let me throw this up on here. Where the fuck's my DMC? Yep. Alright. I'm sure instead of you just doing it by hand,
[01:01:23] Duuude-Ron :
you get the tension, let it go, and then it makes its own speed.
[01:01:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, and that's you could what you could do is you could probably just take the, the the winding part, the part that's just spring mount or spring tension. Like a clock. Yeah. Like a clock. You would wind it up. Now, what it typically does is it's got it's casting. And so one end has got the the cast, you got a counterweight on the other end. So what you'd be able to do is just take the, take the arm that is being slung around, take it off, put, you know, put a a a some type of locker onto it, you know, something that would hold the the frame, you know, however you wanted to do it, and be they'd be able to spin it, and it would be able to spin however fast you want it. And so, it's just something I was thinking, but, you know, it's Okay.
[01:02:25] Rich Chelson:
I mean okay. Because you see what I'm using now is, like, is like is like base, basically a small
[01:02:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Lazy Susan. Susan.
[01:02:35] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And and and, you know, I don't I don't always spin things fast because I don't always, you know, I don't always need to spread paint,
[01:02:46] Bryan Goodwin:
you know A hundred miles an hour. Exactly. You don't need to fling it 20 feet.
[01:02:50] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:02:51] Duuude-Ron :
No. Yeah. No. So leaves like I said, like Rich said, leave some paint on the canvas. Canvas. Exactly.
[01:03:00] Rich Chelson:
But but, no, it it just and and say, like, some like, say, what is it? Say, with the first one, did I tilt that one? I don't know. No. No. No. That one, I spun. That one, I spun the shit out of it, and it actually spread it out pretty well. The second one, no, I spun it, but I didn't spin it too fast. And I I spun it multiple times to spread the paint out because I wanted to keep the shape of the flowers. Right. See? So so whichever way I'm doing it, it depends on how fast or how hard I spin it. That might be something you try. What's that?
[01:03:45] Bryan Goodwin:
What if you've got your pour paint set up Mhmm. But instead of dumping it and then spinning, what if you started spinning and as it was spinning, you poured onto the canvas?
[01:03:57] Rich Chelson:
You know, I kinda thought about that today, but I I haven't I just haven't thought through it
[01:04:09] Duuude-Ron :
yet. And I think that would turn that would turn more into a, I think, tie dye aspect.
[01:04:17] Bryan Goodwin:
It might. It might be a whole bunch of little bitties little bitty circles or might be a great big circle that goes into a tiny little bitty circle back out into I don't know. I don't know how it would turn out depending on how fat of a of a poor stream you did. Right. Well well, and see I mean, there's so many different, variables in that that you I mean, one, you'll never have the same picture picture twice.
[01:04:40] Rich Chelson:
No. No. And and see and see the thing is, you know, I I, you know, I don't have to pour just in the center. I could start on the outer edge and move it around and go in, you know, or whatever. Just go side to side as it's spinning, whatever. You know, I could change it up. But speaking of tie dye, I will tell you when I mixed up those, frozen frozen acrylics and I poured them colors on and everything hoping they'd work out, and I was as I was pouring them, I was looking at it, and I thought of you and dude thinking because it looked like a freaking thrown up tie dye t shirt with all the loans. I think
[01:05:28] Duuude-Ron :
I think you should've kept it.
[01:05:30] Rich Chelson:
And we lost Brian.
[01:05:33] Duuude-Ron :
Alright. Well, he said he was in an iffy area.
[01:05:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's I I kinda thought for about five seconds about to keep it, but
[01:05:46] Duuude-Ron :
It just had too many lots, lumps.
[01:05:49] Rich Chelson:
Way too many chunks, man. I was Oh, okay. I mean, yeah, it was just yeah. It it it never would have dried.
[01:05:57] Duuude-Ron :
So I was Oh, okay. Okay.
[01:06:00] Bryan Goodwin:
And it burns me back. Damn it. I know. Right? Yeah. You gotta you gotta stop talking about me now.
[01:06:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. You're right. No. I'm I'm not gonna talk when you're not there. I wanna talk about you talk bad about you so you can hear it. Are you kidding me?
[01:06:21] Rich Chelson:
But
[01:06:22] Duuude-Ron :
no What fun is it what fun is it to talk about somebody behind their back if they can't hear it? What's the enjoyment?
[01:06:28] Bryan Goodwin:
I know. Exactly.
[01:06:30] Rich Chelson:
Right. Exactly. But no, yeah, I did. I, like I said, I thought for a few seconds about about spinning the
[01:06:41] Duuude-Ron :
the blank canvas and pouring,
[01:06:44] Rich Chelson:
you know, on that.
[01:06:47] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh.
[01:06:48] Rich Chelson:
So I don't know. I might, we'll see. We'll see what happens tomorrow. I might I might try and do something tomorrow.
[01:06:59] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when I was a kid, I had one of those that, that spinner where you could you know, where the canvas would be spinning and then you pour the paints and it, yeah, it looked like a tie dye. You know, I had one of those things as a kid.
[01:07:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. We used to do that with T shirts. We'd get a bunch of white T shirts and get, cloth paints. And, we would make our design on there, and then we would go to Xyng and see see if we could sling all the paint off. And, boy, it made some made some cool designs. That was the that was the head of, of of fun day in Sunray for, I don't know, two, three years.
[01:07:40] Rich Chelson:
Oh my gosh. That That was it. That made everybody's day in Sunray.
[01:07:45] Bryan Goodwin:
Hell, yeah. Everybody had a had a had paint a shirt that had paint that was slung all over it and stuff. And,
[01:07:54] Duuude-Ron :
you know, it's The only thing I've done with tie dye is with the rubber bands.
[01:07:59] Bryan Goodwin:
I have wanted to try that, but at the same time, I'm, like, going, fuck. That is a lot of freaking and I've watched guys who do this, and they'll take not just rubber bands, but they take string, and they they pinch right here, and then they tie do a couple little, you know, almost like the castration rubber bands. They they get a dull tool and then there we go. Put that on there and then put
[01:08:22] Rich Chelson:
right there. Oh, yeah.
[01:08:24] Bryan Goodwin:
And, then they go off and they scrunch things up, and they start wrapping, start wrapping, start wrapping, and wrap over here and over here and wrap it this way and then down. And it'll come up and it'll be this, you know, just gnarled up piece of of of of, material. And then they'll alright. Well, we're gonna put a little line of blue down here and a little line of green and a little and, I mean, they'll just line, line, line. They'll dip some into it and others, and then they get finished and it pulls out, and all of a sudden, you've got the, you've got the Grateful Dead Bear face in there. And it's like, how the hell did you just pull that out of here?
[01:09:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, some of them, you know, just based upon where they do the rubber bands and the string and all that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fucking amazing. Fucking and they actually a you a true design comes out of the way they did that, like you said, that the bear.
[01:09:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You'll get the grateful dead bear or the pot leaf or or a daisy or a fly you know, something. It's like, crime initally, my gassed is flabbered, man. It was just insane. Your gas is flabbered. My gassed, you know, instead of flabbergasted.
[01:09:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I yeah. Well, I knew what you meant. I knew what you meant. My gassed is flabbered.
[01:09:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Okay.
[01:09:53] Duuude-Ron :
That's the big $20 phrase for this episode.
[01:09:59] Bryan Goodwin:
My guess is one of those good that's one of those good old timey words that you don't hear very much anymore.
[01:10:06] Rich Chelson:
That is true. Oh, I know.
[01:10:10] Duuude-Ron :
We need to bring that I've never now I've never heard that phrase that your gas is
[01:10:15] Bryan Goodwin:
labored. Oh, no. No. No. That's just something, something me and I I use from time to time. I heard an old, an old friend of mine, old Wendy Sullivan. She said that several times, but I just I thought it was hilarious every time she said it, and so I I took it on as my own.
[01:10:32] Duuude-Ron :
Well, there you go. Stealing somebody else's,
[01:10:35] Bryan Goodwin:
you know Well, I give her I give her credit. Wendy Sullivan, the brass when she was on when she was doing Brass Balls Radio.
[01:10:45] Duuude-Ron :
Brass Balls Radio.
[01:10:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. It was a it was a a great, great podcast. It was she's back when Wendy lived up in Canada and stuff, and so she was, you know, freeze the brass balls off a monkey. But, so it was brass balls radio is what they called it, BBR. And, yeah, she she's up there. She would talk about what was happening. She would talk about current events and stuff. And at that time, it was whenever I was listening to it, she it was back when, Obama was in office. And so she was she would talk about, about, you know, what was happening there, what was happening over in, in, in in Quebec, which is where she was living, and, talked about how tough it was to, to work there if you were not a natural French French speaking, person because they do not like you if you do not speak French. You are an outsider and an invader, and they do not want you. And they treat you like hammered dog shit.
And, yeah. So, yeah, Quebec is about as snooty as any other French place is.
[01:11:59] Duuude-Ron :
So Oh, that's good. I've only been to Petawawa,
[01:12:04] Bryan Goodwin:
and I'd have to look it up for where. I don't know. Or So so are you gonna tell us? How do you pet a Wawa?
[01:12:10] Duuude-Ron :
I don't have a fucking clue.
[01:12:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, you you would you just said you pet a Wawa. Yeah. I was in Peta Wawa. Brick building, so I figured that would kinda be rough on your hands. Pet Wawa's and stuff.
[01:12:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:12:27] Bryan Goodwin:
It wasn't it was, yeah. Or it was we talking you petting Wawa's, you know?
[01:12:35] Duuude-Ron :
No. Just jumping out of a Canadian airplane. Okay. With
[01:12:41] Bryan Goodwin:
a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with a with
[01:12:45] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. With a Canadian harness called the style of death.
[01:12:51] Bryan Goodwin:
God. That What it do? Crunch go dot crunchers?
[01:12:55] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, no. The all the all the points that, for the leg straps, the body straps, so on like that, all came into a central point right there where your diaphragm was at. Oh, wow. And then you have the reserve on that, and you got like, my leg straps, I always had to have them real tight. Why? So I did not catch a nut.
[01:13:23] Bryan Goodwin:
That Right. Yeah. No. I understand that. Yeah. That would be But that You wouldn't have that deep baritone. You'd be singing soprano.
[01:13:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. But that, what was it? It was arms because you had the shoulder straps, the body straps, the leg straps all coming into that central point, and then the reserve sitting on top of that. Oh my god. That fucking hurt. Yes. And that's why they called it a dial of death Dial of death. Harness. Thank god we in The United States, didn't have them.
[01:14:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's kinda like, oh, that got me to thinking of a of a
[01:14:17] Duuude-Ron :
I don't remember if if I heard Mama saying bees. Daddy sing tenor
[01:14:22] Bryan Goodwin:
together. Yeah. I've heard it. Yeah. I've heard that song. That yeah. No. It's just no. So, you know, all of a sudden, you sing in soprano. I was like, yeah. Yeah. We can and then and then Ron Ron sang and Ron sang tenor.
[01:14:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That no. Thank you. I got I had that happen one time. One time.
[01:14:45] Rich Chelson:
And you were?
[01:14:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh my god. The whole 800 feet down to the ground. I wasn't I wasn't concentrating on that the chute had opened, which it did because I was floating and had a weight. And that that that all the way to the ground, the only thing I was trying to do was Push. Move that leg strap. I gotta adjust. I gotta adjust. I gotta adjust.
[01:15:12] Bryan Goodwin:
And that so bump. That's it. Just wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.
[01:15:16] Duuude-Ron :
Then that never happened again because I made sure that it was tight when I put it on. You could feel your pulse in your thighs.
[01:15:26] Bryan Goodwin:
So
[01:15:28] Duuude-Ron :
yeah, it was not a it was not a pleasant experience. Not.
[01:15:38] Bryan Goodwin:
From 10,000 feet up in there, you heard
[01:15:45] Duuude-Ron :
a Just a scream all the way down. Yeah. Screaming like a little bitch all the way down.
[01:15:58] Bryan Goodwin:
So, Rich, the what how what's been happening in the land of, of ham radios?
[01:16:05] Rich Chelson:
Honestly, I don't know. I I, I've been I've been concentrating on my painting and playing the piano.
[01:16:13] Bryan Goodwin:
So what song you've learned doing on piano now?
[01:16:16] Rich Chelson:
I'm still working on, Piano Man. Oh, okay. It's I mean, it's For someone who knows how to play piano, it's not a hard song. But for someone who doesn't know much and I'm learning, you know, I mean, I I can read a lot of the music, but getting the timing down and getting the notes timed right is is my challenge.
[01:16:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:16:41] Rich Chelson:
I mean, as far as the notes and and the melody and everything with the chords, it's it's pretty much straightforward. It's a fairly easy song, but my whole thing is timing. You know? Because, Right. I don't well, I just I don't move fast. And this song needs to move a little faster than what I'm playing it at right now.
[01:17:07] Duuude-Ron :
So You know what you need to try also? What? Smoke on the water.
[01:17:17] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Hang on. Smoke on the water on piano.
[01:17:23] Duuude-Ron :
Why not?
[01:17:25] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I'm I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying that it can't be played. And and it and it has been played, I bet, on piano. But I just don't think it would sound right, to be honest with you. But that's my I I don't know. I haven't tried it.
[01:17:41] Bryan Goodwin:
And and you could be real good. Try to see if you could do rush e.
[01:17:49] Duuude-Ron :
Well, put some, you know, smoke on the water with the piano, put a little bit of reverb in it. Gee. How unique would that sound? I've got a reverb, bud. So I bet you do.
[01:18:02] Rich Chelson:
I mean I don't know. I'm still I you know, I'm still I'm still learning things. So, you know, as far as as far as improvisation or or or, composing anything,
[01:18:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I'm not there yet. You're not there yet. So No. Not there yet. Doing improvisational
[01:18:24] Rich Chelson:
jazz as of yet. So No. A little ways to go. But but I've been showed a few techniques that, you know, I'm working on trying. The hardest thing is trying to because, you know, some days my hands just don't wanna work. But, like, you know, when I do a scale and, you know, if I do a scale with my left hand, I stretch an octave. So if I play a c, a lower c, I I play the next octave up of a c. And then I've got a chord to play with my right hand, and it's a a CDG, CFG, or BCG. And but I can't get my left hand to flow between, all the notes yet from from the lower c to the higher c.
Well, it'll eventually happen. Yeah. No. No. It will. I'm not, you know, I'm not saying it as a bad thing or anything. It just it just takes time to because, you know, I gotta figure it out. Well, hell, I just I just learned I just learned how to play a b flat chord, and that's a challenge because it's your fingers, when you play the, b flat chord, it's weird. Well, it is for me because yeah. Because,
[01:19:56] Duuude-Ron :
see, it's unflat. Then unflatten the b.
[01:19:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Sharpen it up. Come on.
[01:20:03] Duuude-Ron :
Or at least put a little bit of a, you know, a bubble to it. Right? Put a little bit of a little bit. It up some.
[01:20:10] Rich Chelson:
Now see, that's the thing. In in this, I need I need to be flat because when you're playing the f scale, you know, like the c scale is, it starts with c d e f g a b c. Right? Right. When you play the f scale Sure. It's f g a. And instead of a b, you play a b flat, which is a black key, and you have to twist your hand for that and then go over to the c d e f for the f scale. Okay? And that that that black key is to b flat. Okay? And so and so and so when you're playing chords, with your left hand, you play a a f chord, c, d, d minor, and then and then the last chord is is a, b flat chord.
And you can't really brighten it up because it I tried it. It don't sound right. It just, yeah, it just doesn't sound right. So
[01:21:23] Duuude-Ron :
Well, one day one day, you will be Liberace junior.
[01:21:29] Bryan Goodwin:
He will have the, the flash, the the the fur capes and all.
[01:21:35] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. There you go.
[01:21:38] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I was more like about the fluid of the hands, but if you if you wanna have a I don't wanna know what type of fluid he's got on his hands. I'm sorry. No. Neither trust me. Neither do I, but I'm sure he's not gonna play with fucking big ass rings. You know? No. Diamonds and rubies and emeralds with a cape and you know?
[01:22:01] Rich Chelson:
No. No.
[01:22:03] Duuude-Ron :
That would be interesting to see, but, you know
[01:22:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. That would be
[01:22:11] Duuude-Ron :
Uh-huh. Be all be all cosmetic jewelry because you sure sure the hell ain't gonna be able to afford the real shit.
[01:22:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Right?
[01:22:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I had to go I had to go pay $59 to, believe it or not, file a tax return this year just because Oh, yeah? Just because I sold my house last year.
[01:22:36] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. And, yeah, your cap yeah. Your capital gains and all that?
[01:22:43] Rich Chelson:
I didn't have any capital gains. Oh, really? No. Okay. I I paid more for the house than I sold it for. There's no capital gains.
[01:22:56] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Okay. So you sold it as a loss.
[01:22:58] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. I mean, I I was I was wanting it, you know, to make more on it. But
[01:23:06] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It's just the the circumstances. Understand. Yeah. So Now did you does there if you take a loss on property, do you gain anything in taxes or it's just doesn't matter? No. Okay. Only if you Well, I mean only if you get capital gain.
[01:23:28] Rich Chelson:
You see, that's the thing. You see, I don't know because you see, I didn't really have any income. I I did have to show my Social Security income because Okay. I guess I guess that's what they said. I mean, but still, it that didn't matter.
[01:23:45] Duuude-Ron :
It Yeah. Because that's taxable income. No. It's not. Really?
[01:23:50] Rich Chelson:
No. For me, it is not.
[01:23:52] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, okay.
[01:23:53] Rich Chelson:
Because my sole income is the VA, and that's nontaxable. I do not have any taxable income.
[01:24:03] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:24:05] Rich Chelson:
Because if you have nontaxable income solely, if that's all you have and you get Social Security, it's nontaxable. Now Oh. If if if I was to go get a job, okay, I would have taxable income. So, therefore, that's where the Social Security could come into play at the end of the year depending on how much I made. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. So so I just I just had to show it, fill the form out, or well, I had h and r blocked to it because I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. And, had them, fill the form out, and, they're like, okay. And it zeroed everything. So alright. Cool.
It got filed. So so, yeah, the IRS knows that, you know, I wasn't trying to cheat them out of no money. I didn't make anything.
[01:25:06] Duuude-Ron :
So in turn, you also didn't get any type of a refund. Right? No. Hell no. Okay. No. Okay.
[01:25:12] Rich Chelson:
So and then and then I was like, am I good? The, lady was like, yep. She's like, we'll see you if you win the lottery.
[01:25:23] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:25:24] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shit. I mean, because I mean, because honestly, unless unless unless I go back to work or let's say I decide to sell these paintings, you know, and make a decent amount of money or whatever, then, yeah, I would have to show that as income. Right. But, then then, yes, I would I would have to pay taxes.
[01:25:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And and lottery winnings, that's only 37% you have to pay on tax.
[01:25:57] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I know.
[01:25:58] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I could I could handle that. If I want a hundred million dollars, yeah, I'll give, you know, 37,000,000. Yeah. I think I could live on pretty much the rest. I don't think I'd have a problem.
[01:26:13] Rich Chelson:
I would hope so. Hell, I'd take 20,000,000. I'd still give him 37% because I could still live off the rest.
[01:26:23] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Well, and that's what the just the stand the standard is for lottery winnings is 37%.
[01:26:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I know. I've looked Yeah. But yeah. And
[01:26:35] Duuude-Ron :
I'd probably be broken about two years. So that would be only let's see. How much do I have left? You know, I'd only have, what, 63,000,000 left? Yeah. I think that would only last about two, three years.
[01:26:54] Rich Chelson:
Oh, is that all?
[01:26:56] Duuude-Ron :
It seems like everybody win that wins big lotteries, they're fucking broken to five, ten years. Yeah. It's our bankruptcy.
[01:27:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well yeah. Because they they don't believe that they deserve that money.
[01:27:12] Rich Chelson:
That's true. It's it's yeah.
[01:27:15] Bryan Goodwin:
It's called the upper limit challenge.
[01:27:18] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It's and it's and it's all and it's all about mindset, and that's the thing. None of us here in America have ever really been taught that. I mean, we've never had that much money. You know? Yeah. At one time. That's why that's why it scares people.
[01:27:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. That's why they get rid of it so so fast. They and they a lot of times, we'll wind up right back at the level that they think they're actually worth. Yep. So if they are used to making $30,000 a year, they may take two years off, blow go through $20,000,000, show up with nothing left, bankrupt, and earning $30,000 a year cap.
[01:28:11] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:28:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. And they have to sell all the toys that they bought. Oh, yeah. They sell everything. Yeah. They have to they get rid of it all Yeah. Because they can't afford it. And they do a lot of dumb, stupid investments. Their their uncle Tommy comes by and goes, hey, man. I've got an idea for a good business. You ought to try to come along and hey. I just need about a $200,000 to really get it moving. I don't know why no one's buying my stuff. Really? Because you're just sitting there in your living room waiting for people to buy your shit, and it doesn't work. Take it for somebody who's done that. It doesn't work for some reason.
[01:28:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. There was one lottery show I was watching. I think it was on HGTV or something like that that, you know, people that have gone blown through, lotteries and all the people that just come out of the woodwork. You know, there was one that, some guy contacted the person that won the lottery. Say, hey. My daughter is, getting ready to go to college, and she needs a car. You know, how about, hooking me up with about $50,000? You know, it's either 50,000 or a hundred thousand is always what they're asking for. You know? Oh, yeah.
Buy your own damn daughter a fucking car. You know? Okay. Or buy her a bicycle if you can't afford a car. Sucks to be here. But, you know, yeah, people come out of the woodwork trying to want everybody's money.
[01:29:48] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. And, see, that's the thing. You know? If if you won the lottery, you would find out just how how many family members you had in your family.
[01:30:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:30:03] Rich Chelson:
They oh, I mean oh, yeah.
[01:30:10] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I would never broadcast it.
[01:30:15] Rich Chelson:
Word would get out, though, one way or another. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Word would get yeah.
[01:30:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, without a doubt. You know, that's like the the meme that comes up that has a, a car carrier with nothing on nothing on it but Jeeps. You know, I wouldn't say anything that I won the lottery, but there would be clues.
[01:30:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[01:30:43] Rich Chelson:
You know, if you have a helicopter sitting in your backyard, that might be a clue.
[01:30:50] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:30:53] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. Not unless
[01:30:55] Duuude-Ron :
not unless I could physically learn how to fly, say, a Blackhawk or a Kiowa Warrior, I ain't gonna have a helicopter. If I am not like, what the hell is his name?
[01:31:10] Rich Chelson:
Oh, big d.
[01:31:14] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh.
[01:31:16] Duuude-Ron :
I can't remember his name now. He does he has a show and a YouTube channel where he used to be used to build trucks. You know, he took a fire truck and turned it into a, flatbed, tow truck, you know, type stuff. Big no. Not Biggie.
[01:31:37] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But, anyway Never heard of him.
[01:31:40] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. He I'd have to get his name correct, but he went out and bought a, a surplus army Blackhawk, but knows how to fly it himself.
[01:31:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, you you win the lottery, you can take lessons, dude.
[01:32:01] Duuude-Ron :
Absolutely. I I would probably do that.
[01:32:04] Rich Chelson:
I mean, you know, learning how to fly a helicopter. Most helicopters are about the same.
[01:32:11] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, they're yeah. Unless it's a Chinook, all of them are underneath the same premise.
[01:32:17] Rich Chelson:
So once you learn how to fly a helicopter, guess what? Get your Blackhawk.
[01:32:24] Duuude-Ron :
There you go. And the bad thing about it is is, you know, it's not like you can just park that motherfucker any place.
[01:32:33] Rich Chelson:
No. It would be a lot it it would be like an elephant hiding in a strawberry patch.
[01:32:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Yeah. Without a doubt.
[01:32:47] Rich Chelson:
So but yeah. No. It's just I don't know. I I well, I well, I still don't play the lottery anyway, so I ain't never gonna win the lottery.
[01:33:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. I I get it. I play every once in a while, but I haven't hit the all five of the ping pong balls at once. I think the biggest I've ever the most I've ever made on a lottery ticket is a $7 winning because I got what was it? Two of the regular balls and the Powerball, which paid out $7. I was a rich motherfucker.
[01:33:35] Rich Chelson:
There you go, man.
[01:33:37] Duuude-Ron :
So I took that $7 and, you know, bought another set of lottery tickets.
[01:33:43] Rich Chelson:
So so so then you didn't have $7.
[01:33:48] Duuude-Ron :
You're right. I did well, I had it for about a minute and a half.
[01:33:54] Rich Chelson:
Yep. And that was that was about it. So Dude. Dude. Here's the trick. If you win $7, take the $7, put it in the other pocket by, the next round, and just put the $7 up. Now it might take a thousand years, but you never know. You could wind up and get your, you know, hundred million that way. You just never know. Just a thought, man. You know? Just a thought.
[01:34:24] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. So putting the winnings in the left pocket and then taking your money out of the right pocket for that same $7? Yeah. Yeah. It was. You just never know. You just never know. And see this way here, when you walk out the store,
[01:34:40] Rich Chelson:
you can actually say, I won $7. Because you see, when you won the $7 and cashed it in and just turned around and bought tickets, you didn't win the $7. You just turned around and bought seven more tickets or what I I don't know. I don't even know what they cost anymore. Is it still a dollar a ticket?
[01:35:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Depends on which one you get.
[01:35:08] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:35:09] Duuude-Ron :
If you play the Powerball, they're $2 a ticket. And if you just play, say, the regular regular Texas lottery is a dollar ticket.
[01:35:21] Rich Chelson:
Good god. $2 a ticket at 80,000,000 to one. Alright.
[01:35:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. It's crazy.
[01:35:29] Rich Chelson:
That's fucking nuts. I'm keeping my $2.
[01:35:35] Duuude-Ron :
Well, that $2 may just turn into, you know, 1,300,000,000.0, like that lucky bastard out in California.
[01:35:46] Rich Chelson:
You know what? That that's a possibility, but, you know, there's 79 and yeah. All all the numbers all the way down. Other chances to win than me. No. I'm not gonna do that. I I mean I mean, fat boy needs to eat, dude. I need to save my money for food.
[01:36:11] Duuude-Ron :
And smokes.
[01:36:13] Rich Chelson:
Yes. And smokes and coffee.
[01:36:15] Duuude-Ron :
And coffee. And toilet
[01:36:19] Bryan Goodwin:
paper.
[01:36:21] Rich Chelson:
Yes. I Where? Yes. I said the dreaded word. I was not politically correct.
[01:36:32] Duuude-Ron :
Well, God forbid if we were politically correct. Yeah. That ain't gonna fucking that ain't gonna fucking happen.
[01:36:39] Rich Chelson:
I would worry. I would worry about either one of you if you tried to be politically correct. I mean, Brian's iffy sometimes. He you know, he's on the fence sometime. I worry about him. Well, you know, I I gotta I gotta make y'all twitch just a little bit. You do do that. I'm not gonna lie. Once in a while, I got I got to I got to worry about you. But but, yeah, other than that, I just I I haven't done I well, actually, I went shopping this week, and it it just yeah. It's the weather down here has been rainy and well, now it's cold.
And, yeah, I just I just I just bite me. I just I just haven't been feeling good.
[01:37:29] Duuude-Ron :
I'm glad I'm glad some of our coldness snuck over to you.
[01:37:35] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's right now, it's saying it's, 51 degrees and, here. Feels like 38. Fucking cold.
[01:37:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It, yep. It came over to you. And it's It was 45 today and felt like 26.
[01:38:00] Rich Chelson:
Oh, it warmed up in the sixties today, about 65, 60 six, but it didn't last long.
[01:38:07] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:38:08] Rich Chelson:
So but, yeah. We're supposed to be in the sixties, tomorrow and then seventies on Saturday if it gets there, and then sixties and forties. And, yeah, we got about a week or so of what I will call cold temperatures.
[01:38:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, my boss told me that, I guess, it's supposed to get nasty here next week. I haven't looked at the weather report since he made that statement. But, yeah, if he's saying that, then we're gonna have some crappy weather next week.
[01:38:47] Rich Chelson:
You keep that shit over there. Okay? Don't you send it out. Don't send it my way.
[01:38:56] Duuude-Ron :
I'll try not to.
[01:38:58] Rich Chelson:
No. You tell it. No. Send it north. Send it to Iowa, dude. Send it to freaking Iowa. They well, that too. You well, I was trying to be nice to Brian. Okay? I mean, I was I was I was trying to be nice to Brian, so that's why I said send it to Iowa because Okay. So you're nailed with about a foot.
[01:39:20] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, did they? Yeah. Oh, see. Now you're gonna be on the fence. I was gonna say that to Brian for Brian. Oh, so now you're gonna fucking start, you know, straddling that fence. No. I was just Thanks a lot, friend.
[01:39:38] Bryan Goodwin:
I I I did figure I'd be I'd be nice to Brian once in a while. You know? What kinda do you have? From time to time where I start feeling like you're picking on me, and then then I then I start thinking I'm a booger, and then it gets it goes downhill from there. It's just yeah. Not good.
[01:39:54] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. Dusty called me earlier this week, and it it was it was, like, 10:10 thirty in the morning. And I'm like, dude, what the fuck? Why ain't you at work? You know? And, he flipped his phone around and opened the front door, and there was I'm like, woah. How much you got? He's like, oh, about eight inches right now, and it's still coming down. I'm like, yeah. He was like, screw you, dude. I'm like, no. It's all you, dude. Keep it.
[01:40:27] Bryan Goodwin:
But Well, yeah. I do agree with the proper phrase is for q.
[01:40:31] Rich Chelson:
Yep.
[01:40:33] Duuude-Ron :
What was the phrase? Fort you. There you go. Or you could always tell Dusty, hey. You know what? You could you too also can move south.
[01:40:48] Rich Chelson:
I've told him that many times, and I've asked him, what in the hell keeps you up there in freaking Iowa, dude? There is no go karts. Up there. Dude, they've got better go karts down here. Yeah. They always does. These boys down here, they raise fucking anything. I mean, anything.
[01:41:09] Duuude-Ron :
Barstools? Yeah. Uh-huh. Barstool on a, lawnmower body.
[01:41:17] Rich Chelson:
I I yeah. I wouldn't doubt that. I haven't seen it yet, but I'd watch it. That'd be fun.
[01:41:26] Duuude-Ron :
But no I've seen a couple of videos of that. Yeah. It's it's interesting to watch.
[01:41:33] Rich Chelson:
You've watched lawnmower racing?
[01:41:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. With bar stools? Yeah.
[01:41:39] Rich Chelson:
Oh, okay.
[01:41:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. It was interesting. It's been several years ago, but, you know, it was now am I gonna try it? No. Because I'm allergic to pain, and I really don't want to fucking, you know, fall off.
[01:41:58] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That would that would be, yeah, that would that would not be my favorite time.
[01:42:06] Duuude-Ron :
Well, no. So, anyway, the gold karts where you're at go ahead.
[01:42:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. These guys down here, well, actually, Dusty has a friend who lives out in North Carolina. And but, the freaking go karts down here and they run the same type he runs and everything like that. But these boys down here are more serious about their race and then they are up north. And they, they do more things down here than they can do up in Iowa. Oh, okay. Into the corn cob. So plus, they also race the the sprint cars, the, the legend series, the dwarf cars. They race everything down here.
[01:43:02] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I would love to. If Texas had well, Texas does have a, what is it, USEC or some shit. I don't remember what the acronym is, but it's a traveling sprint car, group. They'll go yeah. Siri. And it'll hit the track up in, Waco about three times a year. Now when I was growing up, that was every Sunday night. We had nothing but sprints.
[01:43:45] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:43:46] Duuude-Ron :
Now is do they have that every week for racing with the sprints, or is it a series that moves
[01:43:55] Rich Chelson:
around? No. It's know? It's every week. Yeah. There's there's a track right over here in, in, Grand, Grand Bay, Alabama. It's just about 20 miles away from me. Yeah. They, yeah, they run sprints every week. They run I know. They run go karts, sprints. They run everything.
[01:44:19] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I know what what I'm doing that night
[01:44:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. When I come down,
[01:44:25] Duuude-Ron :
going to watch the sprints.
[01:44:28] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They yeah. See, down here, they they race down here because you see, that's the thing. You're down south, man. And, I mean, shoot. For a long time, this is where all of the NASCAR drivers came from. This is where they all started. You know? So so yeah. And that's yeah. These boys down here, they they still race. Yep.
[01:44:58] Duuude-Ron :
You know, it's too bad the world of outlaws doesn't have because they're on a series. They'll go fucking they won't hit the same track twice in a season most of the time. Right. And if they do hit a track twice, it's only one or two tracks. Yeah. I would love to go see the, King Of The Hill and the, Knoxville Nationals, But shit, the Knoxville Nationals, that's 200 roughly $200 of fucking per person ticket per day or per night.
[01:45:42] Rich Chelson:
No. It's not. No. No. Really?
[01:45:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. For for the world of outlaws?
[01:45:49] Rich Chelson:
Yes. No. It's not Oh, okay.
[01:45:52] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[01:45:53] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's, yeah. That shit's in Knoxville, Iowa, dude. Everybody goes to that. Everybody freaking goes to that.
[01:46:03] Duuude-Ron :
I would love to go to that one time. It's August 6 through the ninth this year.
[01:46:12] Bryan Goodwin:
So,
[01:46:15] Rich Chelson:
yeah, it's four days long.
[01:46:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:46:19] Rich Chelson:
And, I've talked to people that have, been there. Mhmm. They get pit passes and stuff. You know? And well, you know, they were racing because they race other things besides the sprints there as well. And, Yeah. They, they said it's crazy.
[01:46:43] Duuude-Ron :
It is During the weekend of the during the weekend of the Knoxville Nationals?
[01:46:48] Rich Chelson:
During the four days? Yes. It is. Yeah. You will see everything. Everything you can think of, you will see. And even some some shit that you didn't think you could see, you you you're still gonna see it.
[01:47:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. I like watching the well, my big thing is I like the the, mods and the super mods. You know? But I think my fave most favorite is the dwarfs and, obviously, the sprint cars.
[01:47:24] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, Ron, I I have to apologize, dude. You you you were kinda close. For four days, it's a hundred and $50 between $1.50 and $1.70.
[01:47:41] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, that ain't bad for four days then. That ain't bad at all. That's actually pretty damn good price. That's roughly, yeah, about $50 a
[01:47:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Good job, Steve. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:47:59] Duuude-Ron :
I think when I when they came to Mesquite, to the Devil's Bowl, I, yeah, I think that's what about I paid. That's been five years ago, I think. But I think, yeah, I think I paid $45.50 dollars a ticket for the World of Outlaws. So yeah. Okay. I thought they would be a little bit more expensive than the or being at, for the nationals.
[01:48:32] Rich Chelson:
No. They they, no. They I mean, I don't know. I don't see why they, you know, would be. I mean, I well, I don't know because you see Knoxville is a little town. I mean, Knoxville, the biggest thing in Knoxville, Iowa
[01:48:50] Bryan Goodwin:
is the track. Oh, Utah, Iowa. I was, like, going, Knoxville, Tennessee is kind of a decent size. Yeah. You know? Had the world's fair there once.
[01:49:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No. No. This is this is Knoxville, Iowa. State. Different the other Knoxville.
[01:49:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. The other Knoxville in Iowa. Iowa. Welcome to Iowa. Yeah. The the track the track and the parking lot, yeah, I could only imagine that that's the biggest facility there in Knoxville, Iowa.
[01:49:20] Rich Chelson:
It is. Literally, it is. Because and, I mean, I've I've I've drove past the track, like, thousands of times when I was going up north to Pella or coming back home from working and I mean Right. It's it's right on Highway 14. It's just up from Sheraton, Iowa. It's about 25, 30 miles from Sheraton, Iowa. And yeah.
[01:49:49] Duuude-Ron :
I've Well, I've never been there either. So
[01:49:53] Rich Chelson:
Well, you really ain't missing nothing.
[01:49:55] Duuude-Ron :
I'm sure.
[01:49:57] Rich Chelson:
I mean, it's a small farm town. Knoxville is too, but Knoxville has a raceway. That's, you know, that's why Knoxville is on the map.
[01:50:10] Duuude-Ron :
And I and I'm sure when they have the nationals, they increase the, population threefold.
[01:50:18] Rich Chelson:
If not four.
[01:50:21] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:50:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm I'm serious. If not four, there's, oh my god. Yeah. Well, he just I mean, they still race even. You know, without the national, they still have races in Knoxville. You know, of of the bigger cars, like the IMCA modifies, the sprint car, shit like that.
[01:50:43] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah.
[01:50:44] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. They still race. You know, they don't they don't just use a track for one race.
[01:50:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. They yeah. They have, the weekly races, the, you know, the locals.
[01:51:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. But but, yeah, there's yeah. The town in Knox and and it's funny, the, town of Knoxville. Well, most people get hotels in, like, Des Moines because Knoxville only has, like, one or two hotels in the whole town. Yeah. So I can believe that. I'm serious, man. You blink twice, and you've passed your year out of Knoxville.
[01:51:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I wonder what it would take to go off and build, like, a a decent size one or two other motels, but you only open them up during that time.
[01:51:44] Duuude-Ron :
Wonder what that would do. Wonder what that'd be like.
[01:51:49] Rich Chelson:
That'd be a good question, actually.
[01:51:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:51:52] Bryan Goodwin:
That's true. I mean, I'm sure I'm, obviously, no one's thought of it or no one has tried to do it because more than likely than not, it's a complete and total money waste. But at the same time, it's like, well, you know, have the handyman walk around, you know, once a day and make sure there's no drips and or and no tiles are flaking off and you know?
[01:52:18] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, though, the thing is you also have to think about okay. You have to think about the town. Will the town allow you to build a hotel?
[01:52:29] Bryan Goodwin:
If it allowed because, typically, like, in I know that the because from what I've heard, them, a person talking actually, the mayor of Clinton, Oklahoma Uh-huh. Talking about when, when they have, softball tournaments in in Clinton. Softball tournaments are real big there. And, he said for every person that shows up for those tournaments, that's an extra hundred dollars injected into the the local economy.
[01:53:06] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:53:07] Bryan Goodwin:
So if, you know so you bring a family of four, there's $400 injected into the into the, economy. So if that that if that holds true for, for, like, Knoxville where you just you know, if you have a couple of hotels that you have open strictly for national week or couple weeks, you know, and you have I don't know how many people y'all you have showing up, maybe a thousand. Right. So that'd be a hundred thousand dollars injected into the, into the local economy. Right. Right. That would blow their that blow their little, their little town mind.
[01:53:51] Rich Chelson:
Right. But but, see, the thing is, what, if a hotel was to come in, what kind of tax abatements would they want?
[01:53:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Or Typically, there's a thing called a hotel tax. So they get their own special tax.
[01:54:05] Rich Chelson:
No. No. No. No. Because well And hospitality tax. Yeah. Yeah. No. But but, see, that's the thing, though, is that some of the towns,
[01:54:15] Bryan Goodwin:
they'll, they'll afford Oh, yeah. They they Property tax. To the, to the the company. Years. You know? But, again, what if you were just a local person and you say you you ended up winning, a lottery, and you've got $20,000,000, and you're just kinda, like, going, you know what? Let let's build a hotel here, and we'll just we'll just charge them, you know, hundred and $50 a night. We'll keep it open one, you know, for the, we'll open it up, you you know, like, a week before nationals because I'm sure people start forming in about that time and because they wanna test out the track, and they wanna do some runs and stuff like that and maybe hold on to it. So you might be open maybe a month out of the year.
[01:55:04] Rich Chelson:
Okay. But is it worth what you're gonna spend to build that hotel? Well, I mean And staff it and and stock it with with,
[01:55:13] Bryan Goodwin:
bedding and towels and all that shit. And then Oh, that I don't know. That, I mean, I You know? That I that I don't know. And like I said, no one's done it yet, so it's probably a profit it's probably a a loss leader in a waste of Sunday.
[01:55:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[01:55:30] Bryan Goodwin:
But at the same time, I think that would you know, it's part of me is just going, yeah. But, you know, what if you just shut it down? You know, you you close everything up. You lay out, you you do kinda like the Stanley Hotel, or, the the Overlook Hotel in the Shining. You know, you shut it all down, everyone leaves, and, and stuff. Granted, I mean, they open up at the end of spring again and leave at the beginning of fall, so there's just a little season in there. But, you know, you've got a really short season, and so maybe you've got a, you you you pay for a guard, you pay for a handyman.
Maybe you're good with, you're a good handyman, and so you don't even have to worry about the handyman. You just go over there once a day, and you just start at the top, you work your way all the way down and make sure there's no leaks. You don't hear for leaks or anything, and you you reapply tiles that it may have, have tried to come off and and things like that. And, yeah. And you just take care of it, until it's time, and then, you know, here comes the influx. You got, you know, a thousand people that come in and poof, voila, you've got, you've got a shit ton of extra money added to it, and you're you're charging a hundred and 50, 2 hundred bucks depending on how busy it gets, you know, per room.
So, yeah, you're all of a sudden, you're you're, the hotel taxes starts ringing all in a lot. I mean, yeah. I mean, there's I'm surprised someone has not at least tempted that because that seems like I mean, there's a lot of money that they are just the the tech people of the town are just leaving on the table.
[01:57:14] Rich Chelson:
But see, that's the thing, though. Up there in Iowa, like that, those people are are are how to put it? They're they're moved to certain things, but most part, no. They're not. You know, they like things a certain way. Oh, yeah. If you go and try and start to change that, then they start getting, you know, Yeah.
[01:57:47] Bryan Goodwin:
A little huffy. Yeah.
[01:57:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, if I if I was to do something like that, I would build cabins and put them in a circle and then, like, a walk path to the center, and the center of all of those cabins be a fire pit.
[01:58:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's an idea. I mean, you could go off and buy a shit ton of, of of of tiny homes or buy out outbuildings. I I almost said outhouses. Outbuildings, big difference. Huge difference. One smells a lot better. But Right. Buy a bunch of outbuildings, turn them into tiny homes because they're only gonna be there for a week, so you could just there wouldn't be any any real big problem. Hell, it'd be on your property. So, you know, you might have to change a little see if you get a little section of it rezoned for commercial.
[01:58:50] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, see, that's the thing. You would that's where that's where the town would and and, see, this is why living in town and thinking of something like that, even though it's a hell of an idea, the town has final say, and that's you know? I mean, I don't know. It's it's it's it's So, yeah, you'd have to do it outside of that city limit
[01:59:11] Bryan Goodwin:
so that they could all they could do is stand around and bitch and go, I can't believe they're going off and wasting all that damn good land and putting a bunch of little houses on there for someone who's gonna show up there for two two weeks out of the whole damn year. Yeah. I I understand. I'm that's Sunray.
[01:59:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[01:59:29] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Well, yeah, take take Sunray and, I mean, Knoxville, I think, is a little bigger than Sunray. Oh, yeah. Now we're we're 2,000 people.
[01:59:39] Bryan Goodwin:
We're 2,000 people.
[01:59:44] Rich Chelson:
I think Knoxville is about the same or close close to it because Knoxville is not that big. I mean, god dang. It's not that big. If it's 2,000 people, I'd I'd be surprised. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. I am surprised. It's 7,000. Wow. I didn't think it was even that big. Literally, it's I mean, going north and south, you roll into town, and You sneeze, and it's gone. Yep. You've got, like, three lights in the and and no. Four lights. Oh, see. Sunrise doesn't even have a light. Okay. Well, four lights in the town, and the last light is right at the entrance to the pits for the, the racetrack.
After that, you ain't got no more stoplights. And then, that's it. You know? And so, yeah, Knoxville is more wide than tall. But, yeah, they that's crazy. 7,400 people. Okay. I I learned something new. I I Yeah. Like I said, I never thought it was that big. So yeah. And and that was as of 2023. Okay. Well,
[02:01:19] Duuude-Ron :
well, I should look at look at Sturgis. Sturgis population is only a few thousand, but when you have Sturgis Week, it turns into 30,000
[02:01:31] Bryan Goodwin:
people. No. Hundred thousand, dude. I was gonna say at least a 50, two hundred thousand. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of folk.
[02:01:39] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Sturgis. Yes. Yes. Sturgis is astronomical. Oh, wow. Hang on. As of 2023, it says population in Sturgis is 7,067 people.
[02:01:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Are you sure you're not looking over at Knoxville again?
[02:01:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. No. I I I put in Sturgis, South Dakota. Oh, okay. Okay. So yeah. But yeah. No. It says it's 7,600 and or 7,067 people.
[02:02:17] Duuude-Ron :
And I think those two biggest bars, that are, you know, right in that area are only open up during surge this week.
[02:02:32] Bryan Goodwin:
So see? There's proof that would work.
[02:02:35] Duuude-Ron :
That's
[02:02:37] Rich Chelson:
yeah. Now, check this out. The Sturgis bike rally. Right?
[02:02:46] Bryan Goodwin:
Right.
[02:02:47] Rich Chelson:
The highest ever attendance was in 2015, and there was 739,000 people.
[02:02:57] Duuude-Ron :
God damn.
[02:02:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. That's a lot of people.
[02:03:01] Rich Chelson:
739,000 people. Damn. That is crazy.
[02:03:13] Duuude-Ron :
And I wonder I bet you probably a good 50, two hundred thousand people were out there at that. Was that, that campground? What was that called? The Buffalo Chip.
[02:03:32] Rich Chelson:
Oh, it's yeah. Very easy. Yeah. I would say. I would say very easy, but, yeah, that was yeah. In 2015, there was that many people. That's Wow. A lot of people.
[02:03:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:03:51] Rich Chelson:
That's just wow. Yeah. Too many people for me.
[02:03:57] Duuude-Ron :
You know, but I would love to go up there and just visit it one time just to see just to have the Sturgis experience. Now I'm not gonna have a motorcycle more than likely, but just to go up there and see the atmosphere.
[02:04:18] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, I believe up there, you could find a lot of different stuff too that you would not normally see.
[02:04:27] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I have no have no doubt in my mind there.
[02:04:37] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I don't know. This year, it's it starts on August 1 and goes through the tenth.
[02:04:44] Duuude-Ron :
What? Sturgis?
[02:04:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Sturgis. Okay. Yeah. So so, yeah, it goes it's just man, that's just huge.
[02:05:00] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:05:02] Rich Chelson:
But, you know, that's the thing. You only have to work ten days out of the year. You ain't gotta work the rest of the time if you don't want to.
[02:05:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah.
[02:05:13] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. You know? Because think because, you know, think about it. You know? Even even if you have a slow year at 300,000 people, you get $1 from 300,000 people, guess what? You got $300,000.
[02:05:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, absolutely. Well, that's I mean, we there was a, whenever I worked for the coop, there was a, a harvest crew that came through town to do harvest. Yep. And that was their whole deal. They would come in, and they went through they did their the harvest and all that, and they go they do their big old circuit. And then when they were done, several of them would go back up to, up to Jackson Hole, Wyoming. And that's where they would live and hang out, and he would they would do be ski bombs Yep. The rest of the year. And when harvest kicked back up, they'd all jump back under their tractors and trucks and stuff like that and go run again and do a big old loop and right back up there.
Yeah. They just they would just, just live off their, live off their savings.
[02:06:25] Rich Chelson:
Well yeah. Because you see, that's the thing. Those those harvest cruise, you know, I had seen them all over. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'd seen the traveling harvest cruise, and those boys make money.
[02:06:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. They do. They they don't they don't piss around. They just it's they get them them combines up moving, and they just they've got a system down. They just right underneath there, plucking off their, you know, they got the tractor with the with the catch trailer on there and dumping it into the semi trucks. And
[02:06:59] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Those, yeah, those guys make money. So Yeah. They do. Because, otherwise, they damn sure wouldn't do it, and they make good money too. So see, dude, you could do that. Yeah.
[02:07:13] Duuude-Ron :
You know, that's not a that's not a bad thought, really.
[02:07:18] Rich Chelson:
You know? Because, you wouldn't be hauling hazmat, and you'd be hauling, grain from the field Yeah. To the elevator.
[02:07:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You'd be carrying about a hundred thousand pounds of grain. Yeah. Yeah. No. I'd rather I'd rather drive the con combine. Well, you do that too. Well, you probably work your way up to that because that's where everybody I'm sure that's where everybody wants to work.
[02:07:40] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I'm sure it is.
[02:07:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Because hell, they those damn combines pretty much just drive themselves these days.
[02:07:48] Duuude-Ron :
These days. Yep. A lot of them are, you know, satellite navigated.
[02:07:54] Rich Chelson:
Yep. G GPS and all that. I mean Yep. You really ain't gotta do too much except sit there and,
[02:08:03] Bryan Goodwin:
listen to the in front of you. Make sure you don't go off and scoop a coyote up.
[02:08:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Or, or, if you're cutting beans, you don't mess the head up on the combine.
[02:08:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. See, I wouldn't know about that. And, I mean, only thing I know about, about, soybeans is that they look like giant Milo. Yeah. And I had a we had a Guatemalan who was working for us. El Salvador loved him. He was an amazing dude. Always happy. And, went over to, we're and coop, there's, see, Elevator A, b, c, d, and E. So there's five actual l zones that we can dump our, our grain into. And, during, during, during, corn harvest, you also have Milo and soybeans coming in also.
[02:09:04] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:09:05] Bryan Goodwin:
And so, Milo goes over into, Elevator A, but so does soybeans. And, we I was stuck over on, over on Elevator B doing something, and, my friend Justin, he was over in Elevator C doing something. And, anyhow, we told Salvador, hey, Sally. Go over there and dump the dump the the, that, that farmer that just showed up over there. And so he okay. Okay. Okay. And he off he goes. Well, it's like, we got I got done, so I was like, I'm gonna go check on Salvador and make sure he's okay. He's you'd be back by now. He's not and, I go over there, and he was all excited. He's like, big Milo. Big Milo. And he was mixing it in with Milo. And I was like, oh, you son of a bitch. Oh, goddamn.
So, yeah, we had to stop that, put it over into the soybean deal, and then go through, and we had a screen a separator for, from to for for that very fact. And, basically, it was just, it was, what's, what's it called? Wire cloth. Hardware cloth. And, we just add a drum inside of a drum. And so we would take the, we would, take the the, the mixed grain, and we would run it through there. And the, the soybeans are too big to fall through the holes, so the but the Milo wasn't. So the Milo would just go back on on the floor of the, of the elevator, and, and we would take and we would direct the, the, the soybeans back into the pit and
[02:10:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And stuff. And so but goddamn nose.
[02:10:56] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh god. We were just like, yeah. We couldn't be mad at it because he was just excited about it. Holy shit, man. That's big Milo.
[02:11:04] Rich Chelson:
He's like, shit. Yeah.
[02:11:08] Bryan Goodwin:
I was like, no. That's soybeans.
[02:11:11] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, shit. Yeah.
[02:11:16] Bryan Goodwin:
It's like, yeah. Shit. Damn. I'm gonna make a big milo.
[02:11:20] Duuude-Ron :
To went from big milo
[02:11:23] Bryan Goodwin:
to, oh, shit. Is that no working for, man? It's we can't keep you doing that.
[02:11:29] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. The, cutting head on a combine for soybeans has is like little or well, not little, but wire fingers on on on a cutting head Okay. That, cuts the beans off. And, yeah, if I mean, that it's not spinning fast, but anything that's in motion tends to stay in motion unless you hit, like, a log or something. And then it when it stops everything, it back feeds, breaks some, fingers and all like that. And then you have to change out the cutting head in order to get the yield. You'd you know, you can't cut with a a broke head like that. Whereas with a corn, it it it it has them, like, forks or Right.
Or yeah. And they're pointed on the end and Uh-huh.
[02:12:33] Bryan Goodwin:
Takes the stalk. Then you've got the yeah. You've got the paddle that comes along and scoops everything out closer to the, directs everything to the cutters.
[02:12:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But but that's where that's where the soybean head is is more open, and it's a little more fragile. So that's why you have to be more careful when you're cutting soybeans. So Well, I I can't stand soybeans anyhow. So Well, I mean, we don't taste half the soybeans they use because it's all it's all mixed in, different foods.
[02:13:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, I know. I know. But I I
[02:13:10] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Soybeans
[02:13:11] Bryan Goodwin:
have no not good for men.
[02:13:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Soybeans have no flavor.
[02:13:17] Bryan Goodwin:
No. They don't have that much flavor or any flavor. They but I yeah. Again, they're just they're not good for they're not good in general for men in in general. So Why you say Women. Okay. Yeah. I mean, they can they can the phytoestrogen in in in soybeans is is, you know, is okay for women. You can actually do they can actually do soy to help alleviate some of the, like, menopause problems. But guys, no. You don't need to be don't need that much estrogen in your system.
[02:13:59] Rich Chelson:
Oh, so so so so that's why some of these guys are a little
[02:14:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Soy boys? Yeah. That's a lot of the reason why Soy boys are like the way they are. Ah, okay. You mean big pussies? Pretty much. Yeah. Alright. They are inseminate because the of of the, of the soybean. That and also just because they they think they can get lucky with the good looking liberal chicks until they decide they're gonna act act like they're on their side, and then they wonder why the girl goes off in, in friend zones them all the time because, well, you're not a dude. Like, the girl doesn't even understand why she friend zones them all the time and goes to the asshole because the asshole's closer to a man being a masculine man than than, you know, in feminine, soy boy dude is.
So, but, yeah, I stay away from soy candles and all. I mean, I don't use it I don't use vegetable oil for the very fact that it's just soybean. If you look it up, it's it's, it's, or you look at the ingredients and it's soybean oil. That's all it says. It's called itself vegetable oil, but there's not any vegetables in it because soybean is a legume. Right.
[02:15:30] Rich Chelson:
But
[02:15:32] Bryan Goodwin:
But seed oil is actually ain't good for you as a whole either.
[02:15:35] Rich Chelson:
What is? What is Seed oils.
[02:15:39] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Like corn oil, peanut oil.
[02:15:43] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Like, you see that I mean, for me, canola, I don't care. If if if if I if if I need oil to cook with, I'm cooking with it. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's just it's just healthier for people to actually
[02:16:01] Bryan Goodwin:
cook with and that includes frying to cook with, with animal fat. So using lard or beef tallow or something like that. Try and find lard. Oh, it's all over the damn place. Now it's expensive.
[02:16:17] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It is expensive and I mean, shit. We used to get that shit. I mean but we'd get, you know, 30 pounds of it for $2.
[02:16:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, you but yeah. But now and, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna get enough to to equal out like way, like a, like a Crisco can. Yeah. You're gonna get that about that size, you're gonna end up you're gonna end up paying $10.15 dollars for that. Yeah. Well, the Crisco can is, like, you know, $5.06.
[02:16:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But that's not real lard.
[02:16:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Crisco's not. No. I agree. But lard is.
[02:17:03] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Lard is.
[02:17:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Large lard. Crisco, no. That's vegetable shortening. That is, again, soybeans.
[02:17:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But yeah. No. You see that it you see, that's the thing. You know? I mean, I mean, growing up, we we cooked with mostly lard.
[02:17:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You know? I mean, I was Oh, I've gotten around to cooking, but I've one of the things I got for Christmas was a was a bacon container, and it's, you know, it's a good size, about the size of a small coffee can. It comes with a, with a little aluminum, I'm gonna call it aluminum, dirt in, strainer on it. It's a real fine hole, so you just take it once you're finished frying the bacon up, pour it into the, onto the, onto the strainer. It separates all the solids or the majority of the solids, not every solid, but the majority of the solids. And, you're left with this beautiful smelling, you know,
[02:18:07] Rich Chelson:
fat.
[02:18:09] Bryan Goodwin:
And, yeah, I've cooked most of my stuff now with that. And so everything's got a wonderful taste of bacon there. You know, just kind of a little smoky flavor to it. But but, yeah, it's when it comes to, like, whenever I'm cook I still use canola oil, and I I really don't want to, but at the same time, it's it's it's cheaper. But there's oh, and one other thing, because my over Walmart, we saw these 35 pound tubs of of what they bacon grease. What? Yeah. Yeah. You can actually buy bacon grease at Walmart. Oh. The problem that you have, though, and this is one reason why you wanna you you wanna pay attention to it is one, it's gonna be a lot of times, it's gonna be so highly processed that, that it's and has, like, BHA.
BHA is a preservative
[02:19:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:19:16] Bryan Goodwin:
That allows for the fat to be cooked and recooked and recooked a lot more times than fat should be cooked.
[02:19:24] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:19:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Most of the time, you can cook one, two, maybe if you're lucky three times. And after that, you know, it's it's gonna start going rancid. Right. And, I mean, I I only cook with it once one other time. I'll I'll fry it up, dump it out, and I'll cook use it to cook, you know, throw a flop, a glob of it on the pan, cook some eggs, or if I'm, you know, browning something in a skillet, I'll use bacon grease instead of instead of butter or or oil or whatever. Unless it's, olive oil. Olive oil is not a not a nut. So it that's actually a good oil to use also.
[02:20:09] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's not a nut, but
[02:20:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. What do you mean? Because It's not it's not a seed oil. I mean, not a nut, but it's not a seed oil because you're getting the oil from the No. You're getting it from the meat. You're not getting it from the seed.
[02:20:24] Rich Chelson:
Well, true. I yeah. But still,
[02:20:27] Bryan Goodwin:
it has a seed in it. Well, yeah, it's got a seed in it, but most of the time, from what I understand, they pop that seed out.
[02:20:34] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah, you hope. Because if you put in a mouthful of olives and you go to bite down, that's not Oh, yeah. I know. You gotta break a tooth.
[02:20:43] Bryan Goodwin:
I know. Right? That's fine. Those damn tooth are mean. So Yes. They are. Mean.
[02:20:52] Rich Chelson:
Especially if the jar says pitted.
[02:20:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[02:20:56] Rich Chelson:
You know? Yeah. Yeah. You ain't expecting that pit.
[02:21:01] Bryan Goodwin:
Nope. That of course, I've done that, and I've, yeah, I go slow. Anytime, cherries, olives. I I'm I do not go just hog wild and start just chopping away. It's test. Okay. I squished through there. There we go. Okay. We're good. So
[02:21:20] Duuude-Ron :
Well, when you guys are talking about nuts, man, that goes back to Prozac. Because sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Think.
[02:21:35] Rich Chelson:
Almond Joy has nuts. Bounds don't. I that just popped into my head. Yeah. It's seriously that just popped into my head.
[02:21:46] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And that's where it came from, but it's Prozac because some or sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.
[02:22:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, what have we got?
[02:22:02] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. Shit. Oh, fuck.
[02:22:06] Duuude-Ron :
Really? All that in one? Yeah. No. How are you doing? What are you doing? Turning yourself into a fucking pretzel or something?
[02:22:18] Rich Chelson:
God, no. I would I would need help to unravel myself, and I ain't got no one I could call.
[02:22:26] Duuude-Ron :
Well, shit. Based upon everything that you just said, you're pretzelized.
[02:22:32] Bryan Goodwin:
No. I I had sauce Well, there you go. You go get your your realtor, realtor girlfriend. Oh. Call her up. Go, hey. Hey. I'm kind of nodding up here. Get get me all untied.
[02:22:45] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That would be nice. No. No. This I had see, I had forgot to write it down. I I freak pulled a dude and and because there was something I I I had read about this week, and I was gonna mention about it, and I totally spaced it out. And then I remembered I was gonna say something, and then I remembered that I didn't remember it no more. And that's that's why I went,
[02:23:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Oh, god damn it.
[02:23:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Because I was I was trying to grasp it and then, yeah. No. And then it dribbled right back out of here. Oh, god. Yeah. I don't I don't I don't think it even fully formed, and then it just, yeah, it just ran.
[02:23:39] Bryan Goodwin:
He's like, you just thought you're gonna remember me.
[02:23:43] Rich Chelson:
Right. And that was rude because, you know, I I'm still trying to think of it too, and I can't talk. Okay.
[02:23:52] Bryan Goodwin:
It'll it'll come to you three days from now Probably. 02:00 in the morning. They're all asleep of your life.
[02:24:00] Rich Chelson:
And then I'll forget to write it down again.
[02:24:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's why you have a notebook setting beside setting beside you on on the night table.
[02:24:13] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I got, dude, I got fucking notebooks everywhere. I got a notebook in the kitchen, notebook on the dining room table, freaking notebook in my, painting room.
[02:24:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Same thing. I mean, I've I've got a couple of notebooks and and stuff, but it's kinda like here recently. I'm I'm back onto onto my hyperlocal podcast idea again. It's not leaving my head as easily as I was hoping it was going to. Oh, okay. So and I so I'll sit down and write. I've gotten because and what I think I'm just gonna have to do is I'm gonna have to sit down and just set up and do a mock three hour episode.
[02:24:59] Rich Chelson:
Why are you looking to do that long?
[02:25:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Why why that long?
[02:25:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah.
[02:25:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, because that just seems like a good round number. Okay. Alright. Just ask a dude. Because that way, I can do because I've I've it's not hyper hyperlocal. It's more just kind of local because it's I wanna be able to cover Elk City, actually cover about four to four or five different counties.
[02:25:28] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:25:29] Bryan Goodwin:
So you got Elk City, Clinton, Weatherford, Mangum, and a few of the other, Ouachita County. So you got Beckham and and Rogers Mills and Okay. And, Custer County and a couple other of these other counties. And I wanna be able to Greer, that's where Mangum's at, Seminole I think Seminole. It's like Seminole's down around that area. Might be Kiowa County that's got Hobart. Damn. I'm from Texas. I don't know all all 77 Oklahoma
[02:26:10] Rich Chelson:
counties. Well well, let me ask you this. Is there is there is there enough, subject matter to,
[02:26:18] Bryan Goodwin:
you know, cover all that every week? I think I've I've I'm well, that's one of the reasons why I need to do a couple I need to do about three mock episodes. Go through, edit them, all that, do all that type of stuff, and see what the amount of work is actually gonna be. Because I know it's typically podcasting's for, forever minute of of of of work of of episode is four minutes of work. Alright? Right. So and that's that's not just editing, that's promotion, marketing, yada yada yada. Yeah. But one of the things that I'm wanting to do with this is also I wanna this is gonna be a sponsored podcast. Now it's gonna have a lot of podcasting two point o stuff, but it's, basically, it's gonna be a sponsored podcast.
So Okay. The the the, the website brought to you by, you know, Farmers Cooperative, whatever. Right? This, I'd like to do the jailhouse blotter, and we have a, we have a actual publication that does a lot of these, and I'd like to team up with them for maybe, like, a little two and a half, maybe five minute section. I'd like to do try to get it about five of just some of the latest dumb criminals of the week. Okay. And so they they get, a little extra show. I get a little extra you know, I get to use their material. I get some content. They get, they get, some recognition and some free basically, free advertising to start off with since I don't have a a a, an audience yet.
But then, have, like, the website be done by, be sponsored by someone, have it, whatever, the Western Oklahoma podcast brought to you by, you know, somewhat, you know, brought to you by five eighty Mercantile. That's, it's, one of the local stores. So they get the they get the top billing. They get they are mentioned in every every show, and actually, use a lot of what Glenn Hebert talked about for horses in the morning. So the, the sponsors don't just get to go, well, here's some money. No, no, no, it's not just that you get, here's some money. You're also gonna come on to the show and you're gonna sit down and you're gonna talk about something or another. Right. So that brings up that fluffs out a lot of the stuff. And so, basically, what I wanna what I wanna do is there's gonna be three main sections.
There's gonna be just the local news. There's, going to be sports ball, and then there's gonna be a a bit of maybe political discussions, just kind of a general it'll probably end up being a good bit of political discussions whenever election time comes along because I do wanna be able to bring all the, all the, the candidates onto the show and let the and and talk to them, find out what they know, what they don't know, what they kinda wish they know, what kinda wish they didn't know. You know? Yeah. Find out what they stand for, why do they stand for, you know, you know, what caused you to want to to become a, county commissioner? What does a county commissioner do in your eyes? You know, that that type of stuff.
So that, you know, one, everybody who listens will have a have a better idea of who they're voting for and not be and it would actually be a set number of questions. It wouldn't be any gotcha questions on, you know so why did you, you know, why do you think that, you know, kids should be able to transition, generally? You know? And nothing like that where it'd be a be a gotcha question. But anyhow, have that but also somewhere in that section, have news around town where anybody and everybody who wants to throw in, maybe they have a concern, they have a they, you know, they wanna talk about the the 37 potholes are over on First Avenue.
They can bring in they could send over a, an email or or something and be able to bring up their their concern. Maybe even do, oh, what is that speak pipe? You know, set up speak pipe and stuff. Maybe we use have speak pipe brought to you by Barnes Jewelry or whatever. And so all the little aspects of it are gonna be are gonna be sponsored, and then you've got but also, another reason why I wanna do the three hours is because of the, for the break, I wanna put the breaks for, for actual commercials. So we'll have the two pre roll ads, and those will be the the expensive ones because those will be the ones that everybody is going to, everybody will hear.
And then between each segment, there's gonna be two more, two more ads. In in the middle of the of the, segments at the moment for the time being, I don't see there gonna be any. If somebody really, really wants one, it's like, alright. Well, fine. That's gonna be even more expensive because that's a more prime real estate, and I really don't care wanna, you know, cut that, cut that seg those segments up like that.
[02:32:16] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Because I find that really nice. Okay. No. No. I get it. And and, you know, I mean, it you know, it you know, it sound it sounds like you're thinking it out and all like that, which is good. What is your plans for, for a distribution? Because a lot of people in those counties, do they know about podcast? You know? I mean, you've got an agent. It'll be it'll have to be through
[02:32:45] Bryan Goodwin:
through a lot of word-of-mouth, but also as the, one of the things I'll probably end up having to start off doing is, going ahead and just out of my own pocket, buy some may have some stickers made that they could put on that they put on their front doors of their businesses. Proud sponsor of whatever the podcast is, podcast link, you know, on there.
[02:33:10] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[02:33:12] Bryan Goodwin:
So people come by. They see it. Right. Not to mention as the as the sponsors are on there, they come on the show. They're gonna people will hear about that. They'll be talked about. They'll tell their friends. It's, with it being local I mean, Elk City, Clinton, Weatherford is actually kinda unique because they still actually have, a radio station that has a actual has real DJs in them. Right. Okay. Right radio, and they're they're from the zoo to, the coyote to KCLI.
[02:33:51] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. No. No. I dude, I I no. That's that's fine. I'm not saying nothing about that. I'm just No. I know. I don't. But I'm just gonna Because see, the thing is, you know, a lot of the older people, because you've got an aging population in that area Yeah.
[02:34:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Don't know nothing about podcasts or or a podcast app or Oh, okay. Well, and that is that's fine. Because one of the things that I plan wanna do also is Adam Curry has been working with, Dave Jones and has come up with a thing, a good way you could look at this, you wanna see kind of what the base idea. If you go to hellofred.fl.
[02:34:32] Rich Chelson:
Hello, Fred?
[02:34:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Fred as in hello Fredericksburg. It's just hellofred.fm. This is GodCaster, and this is a a podcast best way to describe it is it's a podcast app for a very specific topic.
[02:35:02] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:35:04] Bryan Goodwin:
And so it's a podcast app for Fredericksburg.
[02:35:10] Rich Chelson:
That's a streaming.
[02:35:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah, you he does streaming on it because podcasting two point o, you know, you do have live streams on there. So Right. And so he he did talk he has talked about the streaming. He he does live $3.65 for it, and it cost him, like, $70 or whatever. So I could all you know, I could again, if I wanted to do live streaming, alright. Fine. I can do live streaming. I find a find someone who'll be a sponsor for it and poof, voila, you know, we we can add that on there. But besides for just having the well, no. The Western Oklahoma podcast, whatever, to a name to be determined yet.
Yeah. There's all the other content machines that are out there in Elk City, Mangum, Clinton, and stuff. And those those content making machines are called churches.
[02:36:11] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's true.
[02:36:13] Bryan Goodwin:
And so have you know, that way, the, you know, when the churches go live, they they get noticed, and that would and that's a that, hellofriend.fm is a a PWA. So you can put it onto your phone and just be able to open it up, and it acts like an app.
[02:36:41] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:36:43] Bryan Goodwin:
So it's a lot like, True Fans.
[02:36:46] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. Okay. No. No. I see, I was just wondering because I mean, no. I I mean, I like I like I like where you're going with it. I was just thinking of the older people. Yeah. And I think it would because the older people, more than likely, they would just use,
[02:37:03] Bryan Goodwin:
if if they do have a, have a a computer, open, you know, they'll probably just use the computer. But if they have their phones, some some are are sophisticated enough to where they they open the phone up, they could hit that and go, okay. We got let's do First Baptist Church of Clinton and listen in and see what's what's happening there. Right. And, you know, anytime the churches go live, they can do live streams, and they would get the, the bat, bat signal put out and, and be notice notified that, First Baptist Church has gone live and local. And so there you go. And so be able to also any local podcasters would be able to be added to it as long as, as they are. And I would have some stipulations with it, obviously, because if you're somebody who is talking about, dirty stories, probably doesn't need to be on sitting next to a god, godly, by church.
Yeah. No. That's Not that I not that I have a problem with it, but at the same time, the older folks probably have a problem with it. And, I don't wanna and I've gotta you know, if I'm gonna do I have to do a little bit of, censoring because I'm doing sponsors. Right. That's just nature of that particular beast. Yeah. No. And that's I mean,
[02:38:25] Rich Chelson:
you choose to do that, and that's fine. You know? Yeah. You know you know what you have to do and everything like that. But Right. No. I that's the thing. You know? I was just you know, like I said, I was just thinking of, what would, you know because that area in Western Oklahoma yeah. You know, a lot of people, they might know about podcast, but a lot of them it's it's probably not on their top 10 list. You know?
[02:38:54] Duuude-Ron :
Right.
[02:38:55] Rich Chelson:
So that's, you know, that's why I was just thinking the way I was.
[02:39:00] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. No. No. Nothing wrong with that. I'm gonna have to put you on to, speaker phone because I'm down 7% on my phone.
[02:39:07] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. So Okay.
[02:39:10] Bryan Goodwin:
I just heard the, and I was like, oh, no.
[02:39:14] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That's that's not cool.
[02:39:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Of course, I I was everybody and their dog wanted to call me today. So
[02:39:23] Rich Chelson:
Well, you were popular then. I was apparently popular today. Absolutely. So Well, that's cool.
[02:39:31] Bryan Goodwin:
So yeah. Moe, I I do have proud palm moment, bit, though.
[02:39:36] Rich Chelson:
What's that?
[02:39:37] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, my son just, called me up, and he was excited to let me know that, apparently, a a disc golf tournament, guy, he's apparently a kind of a big deal in the in the pot in in the, in the disc golf world Okay. Is wanting to use his store for his tournaments.
[02:40:05] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[02:40:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Because apparently, they he they have a it's yeah. It's Jaden has his store, and then there is this, there's another store, and another store has been there for a while. The only problem is is that the guy is not dedicated to it. You'll show up there to go buy some buy some new discs from this from the competitor store Uh-huh. And they're typically not there. And and, the, and so it's just they don't know if the guy is just not dedicated to it. He just doesn't care about it or or what. But he but, anyhow, they were like they went into, to, the, the Route 66 Visitor Center in, on, on Route 66, which is Jaden's grandmother runs that store, and she's given him a room to run his store.
Right. Right. And so he's, so he's got his stuff set up there, and the guy came in, apparently came in because somebody had told them about his store. And, and they were like, yeah. You've got a hell of a lot more stuff than anybody else around here. Actually, you're the only other store that seems to actually be running. And so they're like, yeah. Let's see what we can do on the want to do some, some extra tournaments here in the, in the in the Panhandle. And so have you, have you do it?
[02:41:35] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Dude, that's awesome.
[02:41:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. I was like, dude. He's like, dude, dad, I'm shaking. He's like, yeah. Well, that's alright. Just don't choke. Alright. Just breathe.
[02:41:46] Rich Chelson:
Breathe through it. You're fine. Breathe in. Breathe out. You know?
[02:41:51] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean Ask them all the questions. Don't think of any questions being dumb because you just ask every question you could think of and, and then execute.
[02:42:00] Rich Chelson:
Right. Exactly. Don't wait. Just execute. No. That's that is awesome. That man, that's cool. I know someone who has a son that is is is Trying to get it?
[02:42:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Ready. Trying to get it. Trying to make himself make himself a hand, and he's making himself a hand in the in the land of disc golf. So Hey. Whatever works end up having to get a disc golf bag and start buying some discs myself and start figuring out how to fling those darn things.
[02:42:34] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Okay. I mean, I I I don't I'd I'd fling it like a Frisbee.
[02:42:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's pretty much how you throw it. I mean, there's a couple different ways you can, ways different goofy ways we we would throw away a Frisbee is how they throw it. I mean, they've got, you know, the normal where you cup your hand on one side and curl it around and and just fling it out. There's the, the over the backhand way. There's, there's several different ways to hold it and to and to and to throw a disc. So
[02:43:10] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Oh, well, I I I know of one way, and that's that that has worked for me ever since I learned.
[02:43:17] Duuude-Ron :
I am good.
[02:43:19] Rich Chelson:
I am good.
[02:43:22] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, anyhow, well, we've got ourselves we're down to, about, 09:40 here, so we might as well go ahead and get her all shaped up and and red eye to bring her in for landing for the week. Okay. So, guys, I wanna say thank you very much for y'all taking the time to stop by, listen, see what's happening in the world of, two grumpy vets and a dude. And just pickled that, that y'all come by and and y'all do do actually listen. And we, you know, a lot of times we have some serious discussions. A lot of times we have just goofy and we see if we can get each other to laugh in some form, fashion, or another. But what it is is we're just three guys who are friends, and we wanna be sure that we live our life intentionally with each other, at least for a couple hours during the week.
And so we do, and that's where two, two grumpy vets and a dude come from. And so we've been, been having a a good time doing this. And one of the key parts we've made decided on this podcast was to make it value for value. It's not a it's not gonna have any type of advertisements. It's not gonna have any type of sponsors like what my my other, show that I'm talking about is gonna have. It's you. You are the sponsor of the show. If you would like if you found value in this show, there's several different ways that you can display the appreciation and show that the the value that we have provided.
And those are those ways are through time, talent, and treasure. Time is say you want to help us set up a, a Facebook group. Alright. Well, you set up a Facebook group. Let us know what it is so we can talk about it and share it out with everyone. Love to be able to talk be able to let the folks know the tape. We've got two grumpy vets to do that. And you're you can, you can lean it however you want. You apply the the the time and, as a means to say and thank you for what we do. If you are somebody who wants to be able to help in a different way, you've got a a certain talent. Maybe you're good at programming. Maybe you're good at graphic design. I love to use the graphic design because I'd love to start having some, chapter art and, start having, folks, start competing for what the, what the cover art would look like.
And, so you could do that. You could, submit, your your cover art over to us, and we would choose out which one and and and go from there. You can, you can do that. That's your talent, applying your talent, whatever your talent ends up being. Maybe you're a programmer. Again, maybe you would like to, apply the talent so that you create a, a a an app for for us where people can share, talk, and do all that type of stuff. You're that's a passion project for you. That's you applying your talent for, for two grumpy vets and dude, and that's one way. Another way that you can contribute value back. The third way is treasure, and that's just what it sounds like where you're applying however much money you think we're worth.
Did we apply did we make you laugh and you you, would like to, to contribute, you know, a little bit of money. However much money? I don't know. Just however much money you think is proper and be able to contribute there. And if you you decide you wanna contribute, I'll, you can go to 2grumpyvets.com, and you will see value for value there. And you can actually click a the link and go to PayPal and pay set up a a reoccurring donation or just do a onetime donation, whichever one. We're not demanding of it. We do ask. We do make the ask that, hey. If you find find that we could made you, made created some type of value in your life, then please return the value to us in some other in some other form, fashion, or another, and whether it's time, talent, and or treasure.
And, that would that's how life works in general. You apply you apply, the, you apply value, value's gonna come back to you. So that's that's the the heart of it all. And so if you found any value or you think you'd like to hear something, you think you got some other idea of how some value could be created, let us know. Shoot me an email over at CircleCast. That's [email protected]. You can also get ahold of Rich, and that's r Chelsea, c h e l s o n, r Chelsea at Gmail dot com. Either way, we could get a hold of it, and, we can, we can take your suggestions, see how we can apply it to, to the show. We'd love to be able to take your ideas, your thoughts, your discussions. And, we're still apparently, the guys who created and working on, podcasting two point o are still really trying to figure out how to get the monetization thing back into, in the line since the great, Albie Falloff because that, that really wrecked a whole lot of the plants. But that was what, that's actually what Adam Curry was real afraid of, that everybody got hooked up onto onto Albie, and then all of a sudden, Albie was going, oh, we can't do this no more late. And then we'd be stuck with what we're doing right now, whereas there's not much. You can't do you really can't do microtransactions.
Fountain's able to, through, I think they're they're using Nostra. I think a lot of people are kinda going towards the Nostra direction, but there's also Strike, and a couple other solutions. So they're they're trying they're still hammering it out, and I think sometime by the end of this, this year, they'll have a they'll have some type of solution going. So but by then, we'll be over a year old. So yay.
[02:50:02] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. We're gonna be over a year old in April.
[02:50:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. So That's crazy. Yep. Need to go ahead. That reminds me, I need to get, need to go ahead and, renew the, the domain. So
[02:50:16] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[02:50:18] Bryan Goodwin:
So but, anyhow, so, guys with that, I wanna say, thank y'all very much again for everything you've done. Y'all have a great rest of the week. And, Rich, what do you got to say?
[02:50:32] Rich Chelson:
Oh, just thanks to everyone who keeps listening, keeps coming back, and just seeing what we're gonna say because I'm telling you, we're almost at at a 2,000 downloads, which is awesome. And, I'd it's I have fun doing this with y'all, and, it's cool that, you know, we get people that that wanna listen, keep listening, and even download our back catalog. Yep. It that just still blows my mind. Yo, Winger does
[02:51:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It does. Listen to the old shit, man. Said why are you listening to the old shit?
[02:51:14] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. I I don't know. But, you know, hey. I'm I'm not I'm not gonna question it. I'm just gonna enjoy it. You know? Oh. In fact in fact, when we started this show tonight, I looked at the numbers, and we were at, like, at nineteen eighteen. And, say we had had February 10, we'd had 25 downloads. And eleventh, we had 10, and that was it. And just since we've been on, these last couple hours, we've had 21,
[02:51:55] Bryan Goodwin:
just in the time we've been Oh, so we've had some people come on during because of the live. Obviously. Obviously. And I wonder if that is Fountain because I think Fountain advertises announces all the, all the live.
[02:52:14] Rich Chelson:
I believe it is Fountain. I'm not sure. I'm not a % sure on that, but still, it's I mean, we've had 21 downloads just since we've been doing this live podcast this evening. So because we didn't have any for, for, today when we started. So this has just happened in the last couple hours. So that's that's why that's why I'm glad that, everything is, that everyone keeps listening. You know? It's it Absolutely. It's just awesome. But, yeah, like, Brian said, you know, reach out. You know, if you wanna help with, cover art, because I'm not very I'm not a very good cover artist.
[02:52:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Just saying. Becoming better at at the, at the AI prompt jockey in, though.
[02:53:02] Rich Chelson:
That I am. I I ain't gonna lie. I'm using AI. You know? I I don't go too crazy with it, but, you know, it's just yeah. Me and trying to find good cover art is just yeah. It's hard. But it you know? But yeah. So, yeah, we need help with that and then, yeah, chapter art and all that. So yeah. Yeah. If you could do that better than me, come on. I I can use the help. I'm not gonna lie. I could use the help. So but, yeah, email us. Let us know what you wanna hear, talk about, have us talk about, wanna hear what our thoughts are. You email [email protected] or me at, [email protected], and we will definitely love to hear from you and, hear what you think. So that's about all I got. Dude, you got anything?
You awake over there? Uh-oh. I thought I heard David snoring when I was talking.
[02:54:12] Bryan Goodwin:
He passed out.
[02:54:14] Rich Chelson:
He probably is. Took his drugs too early is what it was. Yeah. Dude. What? Wake up. You there?
[02:54:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Well No. Dude, I'm sure he would have a a plethora, of great and insightful thoughts to have also. So we will, we'll make them double up next week then. Okay. Okay. That works. So alright. Well, guys, y'all take care, dude. You have a good night. Sleep tight. And, and, Rich, we'll talk to you next week. Alright? Alright, man. Be safe. Later. Later.
[02:54:58] Rich Chelson:
Later. Bye. Bye.
Introduction and Catching Up
Driving Aircraft Carriers and Navy Stories
Social Commentary on Welfare and Fraud
Technical Talk: Microphones and Audio Quality
Art and Painting Adventures
Driving Stories and Road Rants
Podcasting Ideas and Local News
Closing Remarks and Value for Value Discussion
