Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this episode, we dive into the joys and challenges of pet ownership, sharing stories about our dogs and their quirky behaviors. From Bella's calm demeanor despite her stray beginnings to Rain's lap dog tendencies, we explore the unique personalities of our furry friends. We also touch on the humorous and sometimes frustrating aspects of training and living with pets, including Bella's unexpected encounters with a stray cat and her aversion to vacuum cleaners.

We also reminisce about our military experiences, discussing the camaraderie and challenges faced during service. From the strict routines and unexpected responsibilities to the humorous anecdotes of military life, we reflect on how these experiences have shaped us. The conversation shifts to the importance of finding trustworthy mechanics and the value of honest work, highlighting personal stories of car repairs and the search for reliable service. Join us for a candid and entertaining discussion on life, pets, and the lessons learned along the way.

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[00:02:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah.   That's saying   that's saying Bella doesn't do that too much once in a while.   She'll you know, if I'm sitting in in my chair, she'll,   you know, put her front paws on my lap and give me a hug or something. But Right.   You know?   And everything. But, normally,   no. No. She's not the type to   jump up and lay on me. No.  

[00:03:04] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yep. Rain is a lap dog.  

[00:03:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, weeks not yet. I mean, you know, yeah, granted,   you know, I only got her last Friday.  

[00:03:13] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:03:14] Duuude-Ron :

So   but,  

[00:03:17] Bryan Goodwin:

yeah, she's an alright dog.  

[00:03:19] Rich Chelson:

So have you looked on   well, we talked last night. I got to look in I went ahead and looked up the, there's a there's an app called Wag.   And who knows? You may there may be somebody who is   who is a a dog walker in the,   in your area   or close by. I mean, might be ten, fifteen miles away, and they may be willing to drive a little little ways.  

[00:03:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah, So I'm I'm I might look. I just it's just yeah. The last few days,   it it   I've been feeling like I used to feel before I stopped working.   Right. Yeah, man. I I mean, I've   seriously, last couple days, I've been   I've almost been wanting to cry. I've been hurting that bad.   Uh-huh. You know? It just because it's like, fuck.   You know? I mean, I still I still take her out. I don't, you know, I don't shirk from that. But Right. You know?   But, yeah, it just   I don't know. I'm trying.   I'm a have to wind up and go back to ortho and maybe physical therapy. And  

[00:04:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah, See if they can figure out what's   what that statin did to you.  

[00:04:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Because it's because I I I mean, you know, I've I,   you know, I've told them I hurt and all like that, and they don't say that I'm not lying.   But it's like   they're just   I just I just kinda feel like they're pacifying me.   Yeah. And it's like, no, motherfucker. If you don't get it, trade me.   Trade me, please. Just one day   of of,   you know, doing this   and and and just feel it for one day. That's all I'm asking.   Yeah.   I mean, shit. When my back hurts bad enough to where I have a hard time breathing,   something's up.  

[00:05:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. There's   there's something there for sure.  

[00:05:16] Bryan Goodwin:

And it and it and it and it kinda makes me mad because,   you know, I wanna go out and make videos and shit like this, but I'm trying to get my routine down with   with, you know, Bella and stuff like this, and   it's trying to get through this pain. It's just like,   you know,  

[00:05:33] Duuude-Ron :

makes sense.  

[00:05:35] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, I will figure it out. I'm not saying I won't. I will figure it out.  

[00:05:40] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I believe it. So,  

[00:05:43] Duuude-Ron :

you know,   I mean,   you know, I'm gonna keep her.  

[00:05:48] Rich Chelson:

I   I I have a firm feeling that you would.  

[00:05:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:05:53] Bryan Goodwin:

And I mean I mean I mean, she is a sweet dog.   Now I will say   I'm not sure if I'm not sure   if, see, she likes cats or not.  

[00:06:05] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:06:06] Bryan Goodwin:

I can tell you for a fact,   do not let her see a cat in in her yard.   Because it was funny. The other day, we was out walking,   and we walked around the house. Right? Uh-huh.   And,   apparently well, there's a black stray cat. You know, I've seen it a couple times.   Yeah. I mean,   cat never   messes with anything, so, you know, I don't worry about it too much.   Well,   this cat was under the house.   And she, I guess, spooked it or whatnot,   and it bolted out from under the house. And oh my god.   I'm glad I was prepared because   when she got to the end of that that leash  

[00:06:53] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:06:54] Bryan Goodwin:

I just held firm   and, yeah,   he really wanted that cat.  

[00:07:00] Rich Chelson:

It's a it's a good hunting   hunting season. Yeah. Mhmm. And that's   that yeah. Then   more than likely, it's not a good thing to have a cat around her.  

[00:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, you see, that's the thing. I don't know because I don't know,   you know, how many cats   she's been around. And and see what was funny,   out in my back lot and dude saw what's up, dude?  

[00:07:25] Rich Chelson:

What's up? Hello.  

[00:07:30] Bryan Goodwin:

I've got a I've got a flat piece of concrete,   and that cat likes to hang out there.   And when we were inside,   oh my god, she spent most of the day at the back door watching that cat. She's like, motherfucker, you in the back door.   And then   and then,   you know, few hours later,   that cat moved up closer.   We sit by the tree,   so I went and got her leash. I said, alright. Come on. And so we walked outside.   And, I mean, I I knew exactly what was gonna happen. I mean, you know what's gonna happen. Yep.   And she bolts and launches the end of that leash and, you know, I'm I'm hanging on and that cat takes off. Haven't seen that cat since.  

[00:08:16] Rich Chelson:

Well, cat's gone. Tell you, you used to be cool around here. You used to be all friendly for for for our god. Now you got one of them other things around. Right. The food.  

[00:08:25] Bryan Goodwin:

And now anytime we walk around the house,   she's sniffing under the house.   I mean   I mean, if I let her go,   she would crawl under the house   and check.  

[00:08:39] Duuude-Ron :

Right. I I'm sure she would and fucking try to kill that cat.  

[00:08:43] Bryan Goodwin:

The thing is the cat's not there, but by god,   he still thinks it's there.  

[00:08:49] Duuude-Ron :

Well, the scent's there. Yeah.  

[00:08:51] Bryan Goodwin:

You know, it's it's just funnier than anything.   I'm like, no. Come on, girl. Come on.   You know? And then she'll okay. Fine. And then she'll walk a little bit, and then she'll try   nose back up under the house.   I'm like,  

[00:09:07] Rich Chelson:

no. Come on.  

[00:09:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. It's it's, yeah, it's funny.   But yeah. No. It's it's,   yeah. I don't know exactly   what she do around the cat,   but   I don't know if I'm gonna find out.  

[00:09:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I I guarantee you she will fucking slap that cat about the head and neck region a bit.  

[00:09:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, you know, she might, but   say, I don't know.   I mean I mean, she is curious about cats   because I've got that stuffed animal   in Oh, yeah. Okay.   The first stage,   Oh my   god. Her attention was on that thing. She's like, move.   Come on. Move.   And and and it wouldn't move, and and she knows it. And it wouldn't move. And then finally, she's like, okay. It's fake. I'm leaving.  

[00:10:01] Rich Chelson:

And Yeah. That's no fun. I don't wanna And and hasn't and hasn't messed with it since?  

[00:10:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope.   Nope.   Nope.   But I do know she does not like the vacuum cleaner.   Most dogs don't.   Yeah.   Yeah. No. I, I,   pulled it out today because I mean, it had been a while since I had swept or anything. So   and and the house is looking kinda rough, so it's like, yeah. I needed to do that.   And and so, yeah, I pulled it out.   And, I mean,   she didn't go nuts,   but she made sure   to stay away from it.  

[00:10:41] Duuude-Ron :

Did she try to bite it at first?  

[00:10:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[00:10:45] Duuude-Ron :

No? Nope.   Nope.   Well, just an unfamiliar sound.  

[00:10:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. It's just what it was. She's like, I don't like that sound.   You know? She's like,   And then and then I switched it off, and I had to move the cord, so I left it where it's at. And it was in the living room.   And I was going to where   she was hanging out at. Right?   Well,   she come walking by the   by the vacuum   and brushed up against it and then bolted.  

[00:11:18] Rich Chelson:

That's not to be Hell, it's gonna eat me.   Watch out.  

[00:11:23] Bryan Goodwin:

So   and then I moved the cord, and then and then I I wound up in my bedroom, and I sweep it in my bedroom. And   she had come walking in and   was on the far side of the bed, and I flipped the vacuum on. Yeah. Boom. She's gone.   She's like, yeah. No.   And then I said, I'm I'm done. And then she walked to the house to make sure that it wasn't around.   Right?   So yeah. It it it it's   it's been kinda funny   just watching her.  

[00:11:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I   dogs are very interesting,   especially when they're racist.  

[00:12:02] Bryan Goodwin:

What's that?  

[00:12:03] Duuude-Ron :

Especially when they are racist.  

[00:12:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, when they're racist?  

[00:12:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. My golden retriever?   Oh, yeah. You talk about racist?   Oh, hell.   You black person come by?   She was showing I mean, we had two kids when I lived on post housing,   had my yard fenced in,   and then the next housing, because I was in an eightplex, the next eightplex,   you know, had their fencing. So there was about probably 40 feet in between the fences   that was just common just common area.  

[00:12:38] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[00:12:39] Duuude-Ron :

So these two black kids were walking   in that common area. My dog hid   behind the fucking big tree that we had in our backyard,   hid behind it until those boys got close enough to that fence. She bolted out from around that tree showing teeth,   Scared the living shit out of those two kids. Oh my god.   Oh, yeah.   If you're black,   she she would show teeth. My next door neighbor was a black family.   His name was, Nell.  

[00:13:10] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[00:13:12] Duuude-Ron :

And if he was out in his backyard,   oh, yeah.   Auggie would fucking go nuts   until   until   Nell got the hose.   Because this dog, if if there was any water around, she was in it. So he got the hose out   and was, like, you know, playing with her   with the water.   Mhmm. She didn't have problem one with that. When he shut off the water,   he was black. She was on. He had a problem.   And so he's he's spraying the water, letting her chomp at the water type thing, and then just spraying on her because, yeah, she just loves water. And then   we call her in. She's soaking fucking wet.  

And I look outside and there's fucking blue sky. I'm like, what the fuck?   How the fuck is this dog wet   and the ground isn't?   What the fuck?   And then about, oh, five minutes later, Nell comes knocking at my front door, and Auggie's in the house now. Oh, sees Nell. Oh, yeah. She about went through that glass door after him.   And so we got Auggie back into the living room, and I went outside. He's like, oh, by the way, Auggie was outside, and   he you know?   You know he doesn't like black folk, and we black folk. And so   I just   hosed her down. She loved that until the hose went off. Okay. So he sprayed her with water.  

Yeah. And, about five minutes later, he comes and explains. It's like, okay. Not a problem.   I'm like, Jesus, dog.   You're fucking   just   wow.  

[00:14:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Long   as long as a black person has a hose with water, she's fine.  

[00:14:59] Duuude-Ron :

And if they don't have yeah. If if they don't have a hose, oh, yeah. You're gonna get bit.   Oh, yeah.  

[00:15:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I gotta say I gotta say everyone that,   that, say, Bella's been around,   she loves everybody because, you know, I went and saw my neighbor, Ray.   You know? I mean, he didn't get too close to her or nothing, but   she was on the leash and didn't try and bark or nothing.   And   my neighbor across the street,   Johnny,   then comes over and oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Bella just loves her. And then   when and then when I took her to the vet,   I found out that Bella likes Cheez Whiz   because the vet walked in. And, I mean I mean, the vet's cool, but   he's a little weird. He was   he walked in in them toe shoes.  



[00:15:53] Duuude-Ron :

And then those  

[00:15:55] Bryan Goodwin:

things those things look kinda weird anyway.   But, I mean, he was cool, nice guy.   And, yeah, he was yeah.   Freaking Bella walked up to each of them,   you know, the his assistant and him.   And, yeah, they were just petting her and all like that shit. Bella was eating all that up.   He's like, okay. I'm good.   And then found the Cheez Whiz. Oh my god.   So  

[00:16:23] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Auggie was Auggie didn't get Cheez Whiz, but I tell you what,   sliced cheese and block cheese, if you had it, oh, he was dead up in your face.   Really? Where where's mine?   Where's my cheese? Where's my fucking cheese at? You're eating cheese. Why am I not eating cheese?   Right. Right. Oh, yeah. That dog was addicted to cheese.   But cheese was a little bit too expensive, so the dog never got Cheez Whiz.  

[00:16:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   Yeah. No. It it just I I mean, I don't know. I'm just I'm just trying things slowly because,   you know, I   mean, she's a year old.   I mean, I   don't think she's been trained at all.   But, honestly,   for being a year old and being as trained and as calm as she is   for the most part,   it's crazy, man. It's just crazy.  

[00:17:20] Duuude-Ron :

I wonder the situation   with the family that had Bella   before you   didn't, for whatever reason, have to give her up if they moved or moved into an apartment that didn't allow pets or,   you know, whatever,   and they basically had to give her up, or do you know the story?  

[00:17:39] Bryan Goodwin:

All I know is that all I know is that, Bella was astray.   Bella was Really?   Yes.   Yes. Bella was astray.   And, they,   they have put her birthday   as about August 1,   you know, as an approximation.  

[00:17:57] Rich Chelson:

But  

[00:17:59] Bryan Goodwin:

so so so think about it. The first eight weeks or the first two months of a of an animal's life,   they're just puppy puppies.   You know? Yeah. Yeah. You know? They're just learning everything.   And then,   you know, I don't know if Bella ever had a home,   but if she didn't,   the next ten months,   she was roaming the streets, I guess,   is is the only thing I can figure out.   And how she's so mild mannered is is is beyond me. I mean, it's great. I'm not complaining   by no means,   but it's it's just it's weird.  

[00:18:38] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And and to be housebroken   and,   you know, that kind of stuff.  

[00:18:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes. Yeah. I mean I mean,   she's had about four accidents in the house   since I've had her.   You know?   Which which, you know, I expected,   you know, a few accidents because   let me Yeah. That   was wild, I guess. And then in a kennel for two months.   So,   you know, it's like   okay. You know? I mean, I didn't get I didn't get upset at her because,   you know, she's still learning everything.   But   as far as   and I normally take her out every couple hours,   you know, two, three hours, whatever, just to walk around   and everything like that just to,   you know, get her on on a kind of a routine  

[00:19:30] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:19:31] Bryan Goodwin:

And everything.   And I try and,   like, at, like, eight, 09:00 at night, I don't give her any more water till the morning.   Because if you do,   she will have an accident.   Without a doubt. Yeah. So so I just   I just hold off. And then in the morning,   you know,   we'll   we'll start process again.   So  

[00:19:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well and I'm sure here probably   shortly,   if I was a betting man,   she'll   give you some type of sign that she needs to go out, like   a nose nudge on your hand or a bark or, you know,   something like that.   You two will get a a pattern   developed.  

[00:20:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   Yeah. And she's   she's somewhat started that because,   I mean, not now on a regular basis, but, like, you know, she tries to, you know, put her front paws in my lap and then   nuzzle me and stuff like that and get excited.   It's like, yeah. I probably ought to take you out.   You know?  

[00:20:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah.   That could be  

[00:20:45] Bryan Goodwin:

So   and from yeah.   And and   see what's cool   well, it's weird too.   Okay.   Put her leash on her, take her out.   And then   when we get back on the porch,   I take the leash off of her,   and she stays right there.   And if I sit,   you know, if I sit outside just smoking a cigarette,   I don't I don't even put her on a leash.   That's cool. Yeah. And, I mean, that's it's crazy.  

[00:21:18] Duuude-Ron :

And it is does not leave and does not leave the porch? Nope.  

[00:21:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope. Does not leave the porch.  

[00:21:25] Duuude-Ron :

You know,   I've ventured to guess there will be one time that she leaves that porch   if she sees a squirrel if she sees a squirrel.  

[00:21:35] Bryan Goodwin:

No. You know, honestly,   because my cat   now the cat, yes. Maybe. Okay. But the squirrels   the squirrels still play in the trees,   you know, all around her.   And and and she'll listen, look up in the trees, and see them playing or, you know, cross my yard. I got a tree as the squirrels love to run up and down in.   Uh-huh. The yard right there, he don't   she didn't pay him no mind.  

[00:22:04] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[00:22:05] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yep. That   you I don't think you got I don't think you adopted   a dog,   Rich. Real I really don't. I think you adopted an alien   because   Augie, that was another thing. Squirrel?   Oh my god.   Yeah.   He saw a squirrel.   It was game on.   Right.   And he would chase that. And because   we would let him out in the front yard, and he would just and we didn't have a very big front yard. It was a common area yard.   And   but you had to mow your piece   up to a certain point   of the front yard, but it was just basically   common area.   And if she was out front and a squirrel went by,   oh, hell.  

He would chase that squirrel   wherever that squirrel led   until it got to a tree. I didn't have any trees in the front area. I had we had trees off to the very side, and that was about probably,   oh,   a 100 feet.   So he would chase that squirrel all the way over to the trees. And then when he couldn't   see the squirrel anymore, it's like, okay. Come come back home.   Oh, yeah. But he was a big squirrel.   Squirrel loving,   hating,   chasing,   fool.  

[00:23:35] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, that's crazy.   Yeah. Bella is not like that. It's it's it's   it's it's it's great. It's awesome,   but it's weird at the same time.   You know?  

[00:23:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Expect her to go crazy and   and and and at least do some some stuff. Yeah. Not a good chance to have it is that she's   she learned early on that, yeah, you have to,   you have to, to mind what the   mind what the humans are are about.  

[00:24:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And, you know   and she's   also still learning the new   atmosphere   Right. And taking it all in, I'm sure.   Oh, yeah. Because if she is because if she's never had humans,   you know, she's, like, just and now she has a   forever human.   Right. Yeah.   You you definitely got blessed.  

[00:24:33] Bryan Goodwin:

I I believe so. I was I honestly do because   just in these last   six days, seven days, whatever.   I mean,   yeah. I mean, it hasn't really been that hard.   Like I said last night, the hardest thing is, you know, dealing with me,   you know, because I can't walk that fast or nothing.  

[00:24:55] Duuude-Ron :

And and she will   learn   your idiosyncrasies   and know   the days that you feel good   and the days that you don't feel good.   Right. She'll be able to she'll she'll eventually be able to sense that.   Right.  

[00:25:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. I, yeah, I don't doubt that. I don't I don't doubt that at all.  

[00:25:20] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Yep. But when it comes for walks, she's like, man, the fucking old man's  

[00:25:26] Bryan Goodwin:

ain't feeling good today. Damn it.  

[00:25:28] Duuude-Ron :

Ain't get ain't gonna get   go for a walk.  

[00:25:36] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. I still take her out and walk her. It's just  

[00:25:40] Rich Chelson:

you know? How you feeling depends on how many miles you get to go.  

[00:25:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Miles? Yeah. No. It's not miles, dude.   It's it's I I you know, we'll   we'll walk to the back part of my yard,   you know, and then walk around a little bit and walk back out.   You know? And,   normally, by the time we're getting back up by the Jeep   yeah. I it's yes.   He's at the end of the lease stopping and waiting on me.   And then   when we get up to the steps,   Bella just walks up the steps and then just stops   and then waits on me to get up.   So   and she just stands there. So I still  

[00:26:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. She she knows she knows.  

[00:26:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And   so yeah. I'm I mean, I'm   I'm happy.   I'll say that.  

[00:26:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. She she's learning you just like   the way they treat or   train dogs   to sense seizures.   They'll know it's coming on before you do.  

[00:26:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:26:48] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, she's already starting to know that, okay.   You know?   This is   his, you know, limitations.   But I know she's fucking just   over the over the moon   that she has   a dedicated human   Yeah.   Without a doubt.  

[00:27:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It's funny. When she wants to play,   she lays flat on the floor   and   kinda   pounds her paws on the floor   and and, you know, wagging her tail and stuff. So   so I know Bella's wanting to play, and so   so I'll play with her, you know,   sort of back and forth, you know, very lightly and stuff like that.   And and then I'll grab her cow I got her,   and   he's starting to play with that too.   So  

[00:27:41] Duuude-Ron :

I bet she she would have fun with a tug rope.  

[00:27:44] Bryan Goodwin:

I I got one.   She's still   not used to it yet.  

[00:27:51] Duuude-Ron :

So is it a is it a rope with two knots at the end?  

[00:27:55] Bryan Goodwin:

It's still, like, four knots altogether, but yeah. Yeah? Okay.  

[00:28:00] Duuude-Ron :

Because they also have those rubber ones   that have they basically look like two handles.   Right.  

[00:28:08] Bryan Goodwin:

No. This one this one just has a knot at each end and then two more in the middle,   and the ends are loose and frayed.  

[00:28:16] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah.  

[00:28:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes. She's still not   real hip on that one or   and I got her a couple tennis balls, and she's not up on that. So  

[00:28:27] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you ought to take her to   what's that,   big   pet store chain? PetSmart?  

[00:28:34] Rich Chelson:

Oh, there's PetSmart. There's Petco. There's   quite a few of them.  

[00:28:39] Duuude-Ron :

You know, take her in there and   let her choose.  

[00:28:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   Yeah. I   yeah. I haven't taken her to, Petco yet.  

[00:28:50] Duuude-Ron :

I bet you if you got her one of those octopuses, she'd probably play with that.  

[00:28:55] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes. She might.  

[00:28:58] Duuude-Ron :

She might. And use and use it for a   tug toy.  

[00:29:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:29:04] Duuude-Ron :

But, of course, the first time she picks it up and starts flailing her head and one of those arm arms comes back around and smacks her in the back of the head, she's gonna be like, oh, fuck this shit.   I ain't playing with this dumb bitch no more.   Right. Well, this motherfucker trying to beat me up.  

[00:29:24] Bryan Goodwin:

So Yeah. I I mean, I I   mean, I'm good. No. Go ahead, dude.  

[00:29:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I was gonna say if you take her there and take let her pick something out,   you know,   it could be that that's what she'll play with the most.  

[00:29:40] Bryan Goodwin:

That could be.   That could be.  

[00:29:43] Duuude-Ron :

I think you got a very intelligent   companion.   Yeah.  

[00:29:49] Rich Chelson:

I think with you on that one.  

[00:29:52] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Of course. Brian's   companions?  

[00:29:55] Rich Chelson:

No. They're idiots.  

[00:29:58] Duuude-Ron :

And not so much.   Yeah. They're they're they're yeah. What'd you call them?   Idiot.  

[00:30:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They're idiots.   Idiots.   They're fun to have, but yeah. Yeah. I'm not a ever expecting any either one of them to save my life in a   in a dire need.  

[00:30:21] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you never know.   They may just fucking surprise you.   Then again, they just may be idiot.  

[00:30:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They just I'm I'm not gonna hold my breath. I will I will be a Blanca that way.  

[00:30:34] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know what you know what happens when,   say, you fall down and, you know, you're standing next to your best friend or were the the three of us are together and you fall down?   You know the first thing is gonna happen. Right?   Or,   actually, the first three things that are gonna happen.   If you fall, first thing that's gonna happen is we're just gonna stand there and laugh at you.  

[00:30:55] Rich Chelson:

And try to maybe try to help you up, that are gonna pee on me. No.  

[00:30:59] Duuude-Ron :

No. That that's number 4. That's number 4.   That's number 2 is we start taking pictures.   And number three is we start taking videos so you can hear us   laughing in the background.   And then maybe fourth,   we'll come over there and help you out. Oh, okay. Well,  

[00:31:19] Rich Chelson:

eventually, you'll get over there and start helping me out. So Hey. Look at it this way. It's, in the top five.  

[00:31:26] Duuude-Ron :

There you go.   In the in the top five, at least.   But who these days when somebody gets hurt, fucking whole crowd around them is just fucking laughing at them. Ain't nobody's gonna help. They're still fucking laughing at them.  

[00:31:41] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's expected to have a couple,   couple giggles about it.   Right.  

[00:31:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. So funny.   Pictures and videos work well too.  

[00:31:54] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. Because what is the saying today?   No pictures, no proof.  

[00:31:59] Bryan Goodwin:

That's right.  

[00:32:01] Duuude-Ron :

We're gonna damn sure have pictures and videos so we can go back and prove it. He got pictures. It didn't happen.   That's right.  

[00:32:08] Bryan Goodwin:

It did not happen.  

[00:32:11] Duuude-Ron :

You know? So, basically, the first   five thousand years,   nothing happened in the last five thousand years until   the middle of the eighteenth century when they   finally got the development of the film.  

[00:32:28] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yep. Print on glass.   So anything history happened.  

[00:32:33] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. It proved the history happened. Anything before that,   I guess it never happened.  

[00:32:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, a lot of people seem to think that now. I mean,   you know?  

[00:32:44] Duuude-Ron :

Ain't that the fucking proof?  

[00:32:46] Bryan Goodwin:

It didn't happen like that. Yeah. It did.   Well, where's the proof?  

[00:32:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah, motherfucker. Pick up a book and read it.  

[00:32:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:32:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, if it's on the Internet, it's gotta be fucking true.   Yeah. Yeah. Okay.   Look at all the fucking AI companions they got out there now.  

[00:33:07] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Yeah. I was   feel sorry for the dang kids that are going off and thinking that   AI is the best,   best thing to happen to them.  

[00:33:18] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. For them to actually have,   say, a male and, you know, talking to a female and someone like that. And it's like, you're just talking to a fucking computer.   Yep.   But they fucking  

[00:33:35] Bryan Goodwin:

well, I wouldn't say that I'd take it that far, but   I do it.   I don't do it all the time. You know? I don't I don't I don't ask it to,   you know,   make Yeah. We can do decisions for me.  

[00:33:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. We kinda get the point on that one. But   still   okay.   You know the difference between   reality   and AI.  

[00:34:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Definitely.  

[00:34:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Some of those people don't. Some of the newer generation don't.  

[00:34:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no. That's true. Because you see, that's the thing. No one's taught them.  

[00:34:12] Duuude-Ron :

And Well, you know Yes. Because people  

[00:34:16] Bryan Goodwin:

people on their own   really don't   care to do their own research.   Right. We'd rather they and and and this is why we have this problem   of a lot of people thinking, oh, if it's on the Internet, it's true.   And, no, it's not because there's a lot of misinformation   out there.   And   you have to actually   view   many different pieces   and put the pieces together.   And a lot of people just don't know how to do that, and it's not that hard, really.   Right.   I mean, I can do it. I can do it. Yeah.  

[00:34:54] Duuude-Ron :

And because you're you're willing to   educate yourself.  

[00:34:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Exactly.   Exactly.   Yeah. And that's,   you know, that's the thing. Just you know, if you don't know something, look it up. And then if you don't believe it,   okay, look at another piece.  

[00:35:13] Duuude-Ron :

Exactly.  

[00:35:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Look at,   you know, a couple different viewpoints   and figure out where you fall in the middle.   Mhmm. I mean, that's that's just what I do.   And Yeah. I still get it wrong. I ain't gonna lie.  

[00:35:29] Duuude-Ron :

Well, until   any one of us is able to walk on water   with the water being, I'll say, 78 degrees,   that   ain't gonna fucking happen.  

[00:35:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:35:42] Duuude-Ron :

You know? Ain't nobody ever gonna be perfect.  

[00:35:45] Bryan Goodwin:

No.   No. Never will. But   you you know what?   That's okay because   that's what makes us human.  

[00:35:53] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Well,   yeah.  

[00:35:55] Bryan Goodwin:

So, yeah, that's that's,   yeah, I mean, I know I'll get stuff wrong.   I just try and I just try and, limit it.  

[00:36:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   That's the word I was gonna gonna say.   However, we   but it is a true fact if I tell you two plus two is gonna be four.   I'm sure you're not gonna question it. No. No.   Now if I tell you the last the last four digits   of pi   is 4176,   you might wanna question it.  

[00:36:29] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm probably gonna question that one because as far as I know, pi runs out to infinity.  

[00:36:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I was gonna say they haven't ever been able to find the end of pi.   No. Yep.  

[00:36:42] Bryan Goodwin:

But but, I mean, I'd look just to see just in case, you know, someone did   come to the end because   that would be, like, freaking awesome. Oh, yeah.  

[00:36:53] Duuude-Ron :

I'm sure that there is a computer   out there   right now   that has been doing that calculation   for   fucking the last forty years  

[00:37:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, I wouldn't doubt it.  

[00:37:07] Duuude-Ron :

Just to see if there's an end,   which we know is never gonna happen. So   or so they'd say.   But I bet you when we get up in the heaven,   God's gonna say, okay. It was   one nine seven two.   There's your fucking answer.  

[00:37:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Right.  

[00:37:27] Duuude-Ron :

Eventually, it will run out.   Well And then you're gonna go,   damn. I wish I knew that sooner.  

[00:37:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, see, the thing is I just asked Gemini. Right? I just I just typed it in, and it says, no. No one has ever found the n to pi.   I is an irrational number, which means   it can't be expressed as a simple fraction,   and its decimal representation   goes on forever without repeating.   It's not just that   they haven't found the end yet. It's a fundamental   property of the number that it has no end.   But   they've calculated it out to   trillions of digits,   and they still haven't found a   final one.   So, I mean, yeah, you're right. They're still trying.  

[00:38:18] Duuude-Ron :

And computers these days, the way it can fucking   calculate how many   how many thoughts does it have per second?   Tens of thousands  

[00:38:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Easily.  

[00:38:32] Duuude-Ron :

Of calculations   per second?  

[00:38:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. That that that it depends on the processor speed and all that.  

[00:38:41] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[00:38:42] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, it's still I mean I mean, even the oldest, slowest computer   can still   can still compute faster than we can.  

[00:38:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. Uh-huh.   I don't know.  

[00:38:54] Bryan Goodwin:

You could take an old Apple   SE   with, you know, 64   megabytes of RAM,   and it can still add, subtract, multiply, and divide faster than weekend.  

[00:39:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Oh, yeah.  

[00:39:10] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Or the Apple two or, you know, IBM's   computers.   In fact, I I I was watching,   what it was, Barnum   modern marvels or how it's made, something like that the other day.   And on a commercial breaks,   they had, like,   little trivia thing. Right?   Yep.   And the first   the first commercial   computer   was   built in 1951.   It was called the UNIVAC one.   It weighed 16,000   pounds,   and that was all it said. I was just like, man, that's crazy.  

[00:39:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Like, the first computers with NASAs, the fucking whole damn room was a a computer.   Mhmm. Because they needed the whole fucking room.  

[00:40:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I mean I mean, they didn't have the small,   you know,   surface mount technology that they have now now today.  

[00:40:09] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, now they're getting chips in the fucking   nano sec sector.  

[00:40:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm. Yeah.   Yeah. The yeah, I looked at the,   Galaxy's,   z the   z fold   seven, the newest one out,   and that thing's   a phone and a tablet built into one.  

[00:40:30] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. Yeah. Because it flips twice. Is that the one that you're talking about?   The way? It's a small it's a small square, then you can flip it to the size of, say, a regular   smartphone.   And then you open up again, and it's damn near the size of a tablet.  

[00:40:47] Bryan Goodwin:

No. This this one here is   closed.   It's it's it's   see, it's about the size of my phone, a little bigger. It's thinner by far.   It's, like, half the size of my phone thickness wise. And then you just flip it open,   and it opens into an eight inch tablet.  

[00:41:07] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Yeah. But if you have it closed, there's still a phone face that you can use.   Yes. Yes. Right. Yeah. Okay. That's what it was. Yeah. That's what it worked.  

[00:41:17] Bryan Goodwin:

This is a z fold seven. Now there's a z fold flip   that, yeah, you   you can fold it in half.   And then and then and then when you open it up, it just   it   you know, it's like a regular phone then.  

[00:41:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   For a friend of mine, or one of the guys I work with had one of those, said he fucking he bought it in about   three months later. He   fucking got rid of it.   He said he did not like that at all.  

[00:41:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I bet not.   Well, the It just seem annoying.  

[00:41:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Was that the flip? The the the folding   phones.  

[00:41:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well,  

[00:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:

yeah, I mean,   I don't know. It's I mean, they've, gotten a lot better since they first come out, but,   yeah, I think it's it's it's just weird.   You know? And plus   with the z fold seven   now the six has it, but the seven,   they they don't have the pen support. You   know, the little stylus.  

[00:42:22] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.  

[00:42:24] Bryan Goodwin:

And   that just actually bugs me.   Kinda bugs me because you know what I mean? I I don't use my pen a lot,   but,   like, on my tablet, I do use my pen.  

[00:42:37] Duuude-Ron :

Because I have Okay. So if you use your pen so much on the tablet, why don't you do it on the phone?  

[00:42:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I do. I do because this phone I have does have   a s pen   support and has a pen with it.   And I do use it. I don't use it a lot, but I do use it, you know, as you know, especially if I'm trying to edit a video or whatnot on my phone.   But, Yeah.   It   but you see with   that z fold,   there's no PIN support at all.   Now   there there are workarounds,   but,   I mean, that phone there,   I think from Verizon, you're looking at $2,200.  

[00:43:21] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No.  

[00:43:22] Duuude-Ron :

Right? I'll I'll, you know what? I'll do the same thing like I do   with the movies.   I'll wait till they come on fucking TV.   I'll wait I'll wait on that phone until it's well, if you subscribe to twelve months, we'll give it to you for free.   Right?   That's when I'll get it.   And, of course, at that point in time, it's so far behind the times. It's like that phone comparing it to the Razer.  

[00:43:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   Or that or that,   slide keyboard.   Remember those phones   that that was a small phone, but you you slid it open at a keyboard?  

[00:44:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:44:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I didn't like them too well.  

[00:44:10] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   And I got one of those, and it was strictly   a p d what was it? PDA?   Personal  

[00:44:19] Rich Chelson:

whatever device? Yeah. Yeah. Personal data system.   There you go.  

[00:44:25] Duuude-Ron :

You know? And   the the the   senior command   got given those. Right?  

[00:44:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[00:44:35] Duuude-Ron :

Mine went into my desk,   and it stayed in my desk.   I'm like, if I can't use it as a phone, what the fuck goes it for me?   Right. Yeah.   You know?  

[00:44:48] Bryan Goodwin:

They was they was wanting you to schedule your day out on your calendar.  

[00:44:53] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[00:44:56] Duuude-Ron :

When's the last time in the military   you scheduled your day out and it looked   anything   like what you had thought   that you were gonna do?  

[00:45:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, never.  

[00:45:10] Duuude-Ron :

Never.  

[00:45:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Not in the army, man. Not in the I don't care how well you backward planned your day.   Yeah. It it   it was fucked as soon as you as soon as your eyes opened.  

[00:45:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:45:23] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, that's just exactly what it was.  

[00:45:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I mean, guess what? It went backwards from there.  

[00:45:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Right?   So it's like so it's like, why even try and plan?   Let's just go with the flow, man.  

[00:45:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Let's have let's have a meeting   in preparation of the meeting   so we can schedule ourselves another meeting.   Right.  

[00:45:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:45:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Then they wind up having a meeting   and then and then and then having the pre pre meeting and then having the other pre meeting.  

[00:45:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It was And then, of course, you have to and then, of course, you have to have an after action review session   of the meeting.   Uh-huh.   And what was ever resolved?   Not sure. Resolved?   Yeah. We should've never had a fucking meeting.  

[00:46:15] Bryan Goodwin:

That's about right.   Yeah. I didn't I didn't have have,   too many of those. I got to,   go on the floor and work more, but there was a few times I had to   jump in   and play big keys, and I didn't want it at first.   Oh, fuck. I hated it. Well, I bet you did.  

[00:46:35] Duuude-Ron :

Fuck. Yeah.  

[00:46:37] Bryan Goodwin:

I do not know that one bit.  

[00:46:40] Duuude-Ron :

But   somebody had to do a job, and   I got selected for it. So  

[00:46:46] Bryan Goodwin:

You got violent toad.  

[00:46:48] Duuude-Ron :

Not oh, every bit of fucking violent toad.  

[00:46:53] Bryan Goodwin:

I always hated that.   I always hated getting violent tow. And and that's the thing. I could be standing in formation,   minding my own business, not even paying attention.   And my platoon started to look at me   and say, Chilton,   fuck.   I was like, what? I didn't do nothing, sir. I didn't do nothing.   Not yet, but you're going to. No.   No.   He's like, yeah. You are.   I was like, hell no, man.  

[00:47:22] Duuude-Ron :

That's because you weren't paying attention.  

[00:47:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   That's and and, you know, I'm sitting here thinking because I was on the third row back,   and we'd normally line up by rate rank. So   at the time, I was in the e force, so I was right next to my, platoon   or my squad leader   because Yeah. He was a well,   he was a corporal   because   he was   he was e four p for so long   and waiting on the points to drop.   So Yeah.   So, so, he could go to PODC,   which is now the Warrior course or something. I don't know. But, anyway,   they had to make him a hard strike   because he was   he had been e four p for, like, oh god,   three, four months.  

And they're like, look. We've got to do something.   You know?   And   I don't I don't   I think the points finally did drop for him to go to PLDC, and he made his five or, you know,   probably about   another month or two after that.   I made his five.   And it was funny. I'd give him shit. It's like, man,   man,   I have to call you a sarge now. He said, no. He said, shut the hell up.   Because because his last item was was Poplin,   p o p l I n, Poplin.   Cool guy. Just fucking cool guy.   I I never did call him a sarge after that.   I just called him. But  

[00:48:55] Duuude-Ron :

That's where he fucked up.   No. I'm curious.   That that is where   when   we had that happen,   you know, somebody go from e four to e five, they would either change teams   or they would   change batteries.   Oh, really?   Yeah.   So that there was no   so that that individual could actually be an NCO   and not   a buddy.  

[00:49:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, say, we were all mechanics.   So, I mean, I mean, we were   we were attached to Charlie Company, a hundred and twenty first signal battalion,   and we were in we were in headquarters platoon   because that's where all the,   all the mechanics and everything,   we were headquarters platoon.   Yeah.   And so   so when he made his five,   there was really no place to move him. You know what I mean? Oh, okay.   So and,   I mean, honestly,   he didn't really wanna be moved, but, yeah, I understand what you're saying because,   you know,   you know I mean,   like I said, the dude   dude was a good squad leader. He was real nice. He would he would he would still jump your ass if if you got, you know, messed up.  

But,   you know, it was it was never that bad.   So did  

[00:50:25] Duuude-Ron :

so he still had to earn his respect as an NCO,   or did he have it because he was a corporal?  

[00:50:32] Bryan Goodwin:

He had it   because of the rank   and and his and his position   being a.   You know, being a squad leader for so long. I mean I mean, basically, the five was   was purely   clerical   because everyone knew him.   You know, he was a squad leader, and   we all knew that, you know, what he said went.  

[00:50:56] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So you you already had   or he already had your respect of the position   when he even being,   say, an e four.   The if he told somebody out another e four, it's like, you need to get this done. There was no question.  

[00:51:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. None at all.   That's it.   I mean   yeah. None. So   so, yeah, him him making his five, like I said, it was it was more for paperwork   because   we knew he was in charge.   So  

[00:51:28] Duuude-Ron :

at least you guys had the mutual respect.   You know?  

[00:51:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And that's why   that's why I liked him, you know, because   he was a leader. He   he actually,   one,   led by example, explained things, and and if he didn't know the answer,   he didn't bullshit you. He would say, well, I'll find out, and I'll tell you, and he would. You know?   Exactly.   You know? And and or or sometimes, you know, he would he would ask me to do something. I'm like, come on, man. Really?   And but, you know, I'd I'd still go do it anyway   just because   dude was a nice guy,   and, you know, he was my squad leader. That's like, alright.   You know?  

I won't I won't argue with you   too much.  

[00:52:19] Duuude-Ron :

But there there still wasn't   the tree separation.   But, again, like you said,   you didn't have the opportunity just because of the fucking   overall structure of the unit.  

[00:52:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Right.   Yeah. I mean yeah. There was and and and   unless they they moved him   to a totally different unit, which, you know, they could've done,   but then   that there would've made me   a squad leader because I was next in line.  

[00:52:52] Duuude-Ron :

How do you think you would have done?  

[00:52:54] Bryan Goodwin:

At that time,   probably not so well,  

[00:52:58] Duuude-Ron :

to be honest with you.   Well, yeah. You're right.  

[00:53:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Because, I mean, I was, what, 19 years old. I was a hothead.   You know?   Yeah. I was   I didn't know how to act,   really, to be honest with you. I was an ass.   So, yeah, I probably wouldn't have done very well.  

[00:53:19] Duuude-Ron :

But you would have learned to you would have learned to adapt   and to   become that   NCO  

[00:53:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:53:30] Duuude-Ron :

Versus,   you know, just being an NCO and a total asshole,  

[00:53:37] Bryan Goodwin:

which which I've known quite a few of them. But yeah. No. You're right.  

[00:53:42] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I was one of them.   However,   you know,   you guys know me. There's not much fucking gray. It's either black or it's white.   Right. That's how I was in the military. It's either black or it's white. There is not   too many fucking shades of gray here, maybe two.   Three max.   But   no. I was   when I meant business, you could you could fucking tell it in the tone of my voice   and my my facial   gestures.  

[00:54:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Of that, I have no doubt, dude.   I have   as long as I've known you, I have no doubt.  

[00:54:21] Duuude-Ron :

But in turn,   I could also talk to them   on an equal level.   Right. Right. Sit down and bullshit,   you know,   and just be one of the guys.   But, of course, they also knew that,   you know,   when it was that not that time to be just one of the guys.  

[00:54:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Right.   Yeah. And that's   that's the biggest thing is   trying to stay human   and and and still be a leader, especially   when you work so closely with,   you know, your group.  

[00:54:59] Duuude-Ron :

Uh-huh.  

[00:55:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Sometimes it's hard. You know? Because,   you know, people see you one way, isn't it?   And and then they see you another way, and it's it it's, you know, a hard thing for,   you know, some people to,   say or distinguish.   But it is differentiate.   Yeah. There you go. See, there's Yeah.  

[00:55:20] Duuude-Ron :

That's a $12 word for today.   That's a $12 word for today.   It's differentiating.  

[00:55:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. No. That's, I mean, that's true.   That's the biggest thing,   you know, with the military.  

[00:55:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And when I was the rear d, and   I got that OSET battery of 33,   34 brand new privates   within two fucking days of each other,   all coming to the same unit.  

[00:55:49] Rich Chelson:

Oh my  

[00:55:50] Duuude-Ron :

god.   Oh, yeah. That   and two days before   my main brigade main body   started to deploy.   Yeah. I was a busy motherfucker.  

[00:56:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I bet you were.  

[00:56:04] Duuude-Ron :

And our our   battalion   rear was assigned to be   the guard for the bag drop area,   which is fine. You know?   Every every   rear d had their assignments of getting the brigade out. Ours happened to be,   you know, guarding the backdrop area.   So how many senior NCOs do you think the rear detachment had?  

[00:56:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, not many. Senior NCOs?  

[00:56:33] Duuude-Ron :

Senior NCOs.   Me. One.  

[00:56:37] Bryan Goodwin:

One?  

[00:56:38] Duuude-Ron :

I said, they five.   No. One.   Me.   I had two e no. I had for the rear command staff, I had one e five and one corporal.  

[00:56:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh my god.  

[00:56:51] Duuude-Ron :

And me and the commander. We only got four people.   So guess who got to be at every fucking bag drop?  

[00:56:58] Bryan Goodwin:

That's crazy.  

[00:57:00] Duuude-Ron :

24   bag drops   in 58.   I could honestly say that was one of my longest days I've ever had in the military   was that because I had to be at every fucking bag drop.  

[00:57:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:57:15] Duuude-Ron :

When I got to argue with the captain too,   that was a lot of fucking fun.  

[00:57:21] Bryan Goodwin:

I would bet.  

[00:57:22] Duuude-Ron :

And   so it it I don't remember which cycle the bag drops was, but this captain   wanted to drop his bags beforehand   As the   other bag drop   ended,   he was trying to drop his bags   at that point in time. I'm like, sir, you can't do   there ain't gonna be nobody here to protect your bags. So I'm gonna drop my bags. I'm like, you know what, sir? As soon as you drop those bags   and you leave,   yes, we will pick up your bags,   and then I'm gonna walk them right into the brigade commander's office.   But I will have already have called him   first   to let him know   the bags are coming,   and then   you can get your bags from the brigade commander.  

How about that?   He's like,   you wouldn't dare. I'm like,   okay. Doop doop doop. And you want me to hit dial?   I got his number right here. You really want me to hit dial?   Because he told me,   I'm the one that's in control of this.   If you have a problem,   he said, call me personally.   So I got a problem. You want me to give him a call? I got no problems with that. Oh, yeah. He fucking his head exploded.   And as soon as his head exploded,   he picked up his bags and walked away.   Yeah.   I'm like   and he was some staff captain in in fucking   one of the battalions, I don't know, or the I don't fucking remember.  

But it yeah.   No. Ain't gonna fucking work to you, Roe.   It is not gonna work. You you are not dropping your bags here.  

[00:59:09] Bryan Goodwin:

That is funny.  

[00:59:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. He was so fucking livid.   I'm like, you know what? In about three hours, you can bring your bags back   with the rest of the chalk that   is getting on the next plane   and   dropped your bags, then go be with your family.   He just wanted to drop his bags early because he so he wouldn't have to do that and interrupt his family time.   I'm like, you look at here. How many other motherfuckers have families here?   You ain't the only one that's fucking special.   Every one of these guys want to fucking spend time with their families   before   they board that fucking airplane.  

No.   And he was the only one that I had issues with.   Thank goodness.   Because after being up for fifty eight hours   yeah. No. I was   I was not a very happy person.  

[01:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

I bet not.   Yeah. That's   that's crazy.  

[01:00:06] Duuude-Ron :

So after all of that happened   and getting those   34   whatever   brand new privates,   and after the bag drop drop commenced, I pulled my staff together. I said, I'm going to fuck home,   and you'll see me.   And this was at, you know, probably about 03:00 in the afternoon.   I said, you'll see me the day after tomorrow.   My ass ain't fucking coming in tomorrow.   I think I slept till fucking noon the next day.  

[01:00:36] Bryan Goodwin:

That's crazy.  

[01:00:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I think I slept, like, sixteen,   seventeen hours.   I was fucking so exhausted.  

[01:00:45] Rich Chelson:

That sounds like it.  

[01:00:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That was the mission.   Yeah. But those all those privates,   you know,   they knew I meant business. But, of course, they're all e one, two, and a couple of e threes,   you know,   versus an   an e seven.   Okay. You're really not gonna have too much of say so.   But in turn,   I also told him after I gave him a fucking brief and   do do not do this, this, and this.   And I told him that three times. Do not do this, this, and this. I said, you don't get any more warnings.   You've gotten your three warnings right now.   The next time   is UCMJ actions.  



[01:01:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Try me.  

[01:01:26] Duuude-Ron :

Couple of them tried me.   But in turn, I said, if anybody has a fucking issue,   you better come and see me.   Because if you have an issue,   we need to get it resolved.  

[01:01:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:01:40] Duuude-Ron :

And a few of them had   some issues,   and we got those issues   resolved because they couldn't do it at their level.   So it had to go to my level.   It got resolved.   And they were like, damn.   This this asshole   fucking   does what he say he's gonna do.  

[01:02:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:02:02] Duuude-Ron :

So and I told them, y'all, you don't have to respect me as an individual.   God gives less than damn. You ain't gonna hurt my feelings. But by god, you better   respect these fucking   this rank I have on my fucking collar. I earned them.  

[01:02:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Right?   Yeah. That's the main thing. I I I would do that. I would I would freaking respect the rank, but   there's   there's a few   people I dealt with. I did not respect them at all.   So  

[01:02:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   You know, I had a couple of them fucking threatened to go to EO, and I'm like, you want the fucking number?   I got it right here.  

[01:02:41] Bryan Goodwin:

You know, I found I have found   that will squash   just about anybody's argument if you throw that   up at them. You know?   You know, they're I'm gonna call someone. So   you you wanna use my phone?  

[01:02:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Exactly. Here's the number. You wanna use my phone?   The only thing I told them, I said, the only thing I want you to do is you better still spell my name fucking correctly.  

[01:03:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:03:09] Duuude-Ron :

That's it.   Anything else? I don't care. But you better spell my name right   if you're gonna go that far. Right. But I'll give you the phone and   let you call them.   I'll step out of the office. I will step out of my office even and go have a smoke while you call them. How about that?   Yeah. That that squash that that EO   thing pretty quickly.  

[01:03:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. No. I found I found even even out here in the world,   you know, people   well, I'll just do this. I'll do that. Here, you wanna use my phone? It shuts them up just because   they're not expecting it. It's like, I don't give a fuck who you call.   You're wrong. I'm gonna tell you you're wrong,   and please call them. You know? Call the cops. I don't give two shits.  

[01:04:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:04:01] Bryan Goodwin:

You know?   But, yeah, I've done that a few times, and it it works.   And and and the thing is when it happened, I didn't even think about it. It it was just it just came out. You know?  

[01:04:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, I had that one down.  

[01:04:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[01:04:19] Duuude-Ron :

I had that one down. Call anybody you want.   Mhmm. I'll get you the I'll I'll I'll find their number for you, and you can and   you can use my phone.   Yeah. Usually, it was like a real   just the   the air out of their bubble so quickly.  

[01:04:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. It does. It's it's great.  

[01:04:41] Duuude-Ron :

And it came out so quickly. It sounded like this.  

[01:04:48] Bryan Goodwin:

And it's even more fun if they're drunk   because then   then they really don't know how to act.  

[01:04:56] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Well, you know and I can tell you with   my experience,   I never ever went now I had team parties   at my house, or we'd have a platoon party at the, you know, the infantry   platoon sergeant's house.  

[01:05:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.  

[01:05:16] Duuude-Ron :

And,   yes,   people would be drinking.   Okay?   But as far as to go out   to a bar with anybody   and watch them get drunk and just   become stupid?   No.   I'm not gonna do that.   That just is   the only time I did that was when I was over in Korea   because I was the designated walker   for about three for about three guys.   And,  

[01:05:47] Rich Chelson:

and so when you say a designated walker, what do you mean?  

[01:05:50] Duuude-Ron :

Well, we were over in Camp Casey.   Right across, as soon as you got off post,   was TDC, Tongue Deshaun.   And they had the, you know, they had the bar strip and something like that.   So when I went out with those guys,   I didn't drink.   They bought me   sodas   and or water,  

[01:06:13] Rich Chelson:

and I was a day and because we didn't have the Oh, okay. Yeah. You fly. We we used to say you fly. You buy I'll I'll buy you fly.  

[01:06:21] Duuude-Ron :

So Exactly.   So, basically, I'd be the one that had the reason   to get them   back on the post and get them onto the bus   and get them where they needed to go   because they weren't gonna fucking make it.   Basically, kind of the designated driver, but   we had to walk every place. So I was the designated   walker.  

[01:06:45] Bryan Goodwin:

And   and and I will say now now I'm not sure I'm not sure about TDC, but where I was at in South Korea,   just outside   just in a Wijanbu right there,   when we went out to the Ville, everything was on a hill.   And  

[01:07:02] Rich Chelson:

and I'm telling you, walking down wasn't too bad. Well, it was easy. It's getting back that was the bitch. Oh my god.  

[01:07:11] Bryan Goodwin:

I was terrible.   I was   I remember one night, I couldn't make it back up this hill, and I had two captains   come saw me, and I was on the side alley. They come walking down,   and I was I mean, I was falling down drunk, and they grabbed me,   half carried me, dragged me to the gate.   I'm holding up my my ID going through, and and,   they were flyboys.   They were cool. But Uh-huh.   And and what was funny,   their barracks was   mine was right behind theirs.   So we was going to the same street with   which was just past the gate,   and so we made it to the street.  

They was gonna walk on up for a little while. They were   whatever.   And they asked me if I was okay. I said, yeah. I'll make it up. But, yes, it was up another fucking hill.   And then and then, of course, I had it. Yes.   Oh, it did, man. And and   then I had about another ten, fifteen stairs.   And then I think I was if I remember right, I was on the Second Floor.   So, yeah, that night was really bad.   I have not, like, stared for a long time.  

[01:08:25] Duuude-Ron :

So but you've been on Casey. Right?  

[01:08:28] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's where I in processed at.  

[01:08:33] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. The turtle Farm.  

[01:08:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:08:36] Duuude-Ron :

Correct. Farm. Okay. So you remember where the front gate of Casey was in comparison   to the Turtle Farm. Right?   About a legally.   About a mile and a half. Yeah.   Okay.   Our barracks   were another mile   up the road   by the   Division Mess Hall.   Oh my god. All the way at the end of the post.   Go to the Division Mess Hall, hang a right, and then you had to go up a hill.   Big hill to get to the barracks.   Right. Yeah. It was almost three miles   from our barracks to the front gate. Yeah. I'm not sharing your fucking ass that goddamn farm. If you don't make that to us  

[01:09:19] Rich Chelson:

sorry, man.   You you miss missus   Cinderella.  

[01:09:23] Duuude-Ron :

You'll be under 60. You know what? We we miss we miss the fucking last bus.   I'm just well, I'll get you on post.   That's not a problem.   But I'm a prop you up against the fucking   the MP stand,   and I'm gonna fucking walk my ass   back to the barracks, and I'm gonna be fucking kicking every goddamn rock   from there to the fucking barracks because   you made me miss the last fucking bus.  

[01:09:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:09:51] Duuude-Ron :

We never miss we never miss the last bus.   Let's see. That's do right there.   What? No. Go ahead.  

[01:10:00] Bryan Goodwin:

I was gonna say that's where that you see, that's where that's where my,   my,   barracks was, like, right there at the gate at the back gate. So so, yeah, I was   I didn't I didn't I didn't have to catch a bus like like some people did.   Yeah. You know?   Yeah. It it was it was nice for me.  

[01:10:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Kinda sucked for us.  

[01:10:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:10:25] Duuude-Ron :

But the good thing was is I never lived in a Kwanzaa hut   with three other motherfuckers.  

[01:10:32] Bryan Goodwin:

What do you mean?  

[01:10:34] Duuude-Ron :

My Joes  

[01:10:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.  

[01:10:36] Duuude-Ron :

They lived in the Kwanzaa huts.   Oh my god. There was   four Quanta huts,   then a common bathroom,   and then four more Quanta huts,   all with four beds   per room.   Yeah.   That's true.   Thank god I was at at NCO.   Man, I would've fucking hated life   living that close to three other motherfuckers.   No. Thank you.   I only had one other roommate, and that was my team chief.   So you couldn't get any more fucking cozier with the team chiefs than what we had to be.  

[01:11:13] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:11:15] Bryan Goodwin:

I gotta say, this is actually the first time I've looked at Camp Casey   on Google Maps,   and, oh my god,   I didn't realize   Camp Casey was this freaking big.  

[01:11:28] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah.  

[01:11:30] Bryan Goodwin:

But, yeah, it was it was huge.  

[01:11:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That was the the biggest   base   on the North Side Of Seoul between   Seoul and North Korea.  

[01:11:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Oh, yeah. And, I mean, I knew I knew I knew he was big. I just didn't know he was this big.   You know? But, you know, back then,   you know, I only spent a couple days on Camp Casey, and I was   I was actually restricted   mostly   because I was new in country.   You know, and, yeah, when you go into a new country like that, it's like the first   three days or a week,   you have to stay on post.  

[01:12:12] Duuude-Ron :

So Oh, yeah.   Yeah. And the it being the turtle farm?   Yeah.   You didn't you didn't have too much freedom.   No.   Nope. Did not.   And, Brian,   why might you think why might you think we called it the turtle farm?  

[01:12:31] Rich Chelson:

Not a thing I could figure is that there were tanks there.  

[01:12:34] Duuude-Ron :

Nope.   Is it took you   three hundred and sixty five days   to go from one building   to the next,   which was right next to each other   for the in processing   and the out processing.   We're 20 feet away,   but but it took you a year   to get there.  

[01:12:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow. Yeah.   Yeah.   Yep. Because you in processed, and then   when you out processed, you went   right to the next door.  

[01:13:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Right to the next building. 20 feet away.   Yep.   That was the longest fucking   wait.  

[01:13:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It was.  

[01:13:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That fucking place sucked.  

[01:13:19] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm not gonna argue that point. I mean   I mean, honestly, I I mean, I wouldn't mind I wouldn't mind going back to Korea just to see it.   You know?   But   see it on my terms.  

[01:13:34] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:13:36] Bryan Goodwin:

You know what I mean?  

[01:13:37] Duuude-Ron :

And the difference   being single and being married,   that's what fucking was the kicker.  

[01:13:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, see, I was single when I was over there the first time. So, I mean,   I didn't really have a problem.  

[01:13:51] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. Yeah. I did.  

[01:13:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes. You did.  

[01:13:56] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You did.  

[01:14:00] Bryan Goodwin:

But, see,   you ought to go back. Well, here.   Let let me look it up.  

[01:14:07] Duuude-Ron :

I see. Then I gotta get a Visa and, you know, all that kind of shit. No. You can use your passport. You know? I mean, you have the passport. I don't have a passport. I gotta get a passport.  

[01:14:18] Bryan Goodwin:

That's easy. That's real fucking easy.  

[01:14:21] Duuude-Ron :

I know it is.  

[01:14:23] Bryan Goodwin:

I just   I mean, that's   just fill out a few questions,   couple $100, and it you're gone.   Holy   shit.   What? Dude,   save your pennies, man.   If you flew   commercial   going to Camp Casey back to Camp Casey,   you could find a round trip ticket   for about $744.  

[01:14:52] Duuude-Ron :

Wow.  

[01:14:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   And one way tickets start at $4.68.  

[01:14:58] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I yeah. Damn.  

[01:15:00] Bryan Goodwin:

That's cheap.  

[01:15:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That is fucking extremely cheap.  

[01:15:05] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. It is.   So yeah. I mean,  

[01:15:08] Duuude-Ron :

you know What what's the cost of business class or first class?  

[01:15:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Hang on.   You wanna be all boozy, don't you?  

[01:15:20] Duuude-Ron :

No.   And then after you give me those answers, I'm gonna have have you find one more   section.  

[01:15:29] Bryan Goodwin:

You ain't gonna be able to afford this.   Oh,   damn.   From Los Angeles to Seoul.   So so so you would have to go to Los Angeles   and fly to Seoul,   $18,092.  

[01:15:49] Duuude-Ron :

For and that's what? First class? First class. Yeah.  

[01:15:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Generally, it says between   $16,004.74   and $21,196.  

[01:16:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I don't wanna I don't need to fucking own the aircraft.   I just wanna   use a seat on it. Now here's the   here's the next one.   Where's the smoking section at?  

[01:16:17] Bryan Goodwin:

They don't International   land.   No.   International   flights,   once you cross the dateline,   you can smoke   normally.  

[01:16:28] Duuude-Ron :

Not on any aircraft that's out of The United States.  

[01:16:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No. When   when we when I flew to Korea,   we had to wait till the international dateline,   and then they told us we could smoke. And then when I left Korea coming back,   we could smoke. And then when we hit the international dateline,   they flipped it on because we was in American airspace, and they said no more.   So, we couldn't smoke no more.  

[01:16:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:16:59] Bryan Goodwin:

So yeah. No. I remember that.  

[01:17:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I bet   I bet you, well, you probably you can't smoke on any aircraft, period, anymore.  

[01:17:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Around the world? Yeah. They don't they don't have those restrictions. America is about the only one that does. Maybe a few other countries.  

[01:17:17] Duuude-Ron :

Well and maybe if you're flying Korean airline or, you know, something like that, I mean, that's a possibility.  

[01:17:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, these these flights, these prices that I'm quoting   are flying on, Korean airline.  

[01:17:32] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[01:17:33] Bryan Goodwin:

And that's like   business class flights to South Korea   is $2,400.   Premium Okay.   Hang on. Premium   econ class,   I don't know what that means. It's $5.73.   Here. Let me see what   yeah. That's just crazy, man.  

[01:17:54] Duuude-Ron :

Well yeah. Because the first class is a fucking   your seat turns into a fucking bed.   Literally,   a fucking bed.  

[01:18:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:18:03] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I'm not I fucking   just just that's just like a fucking hotel. I'm renting the bed for fucking one night.   I'm not buying the goddamn room.  

[01:18:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, that's true. But about yeah.   And see, yep, e   econ class premium econ class is about $5.73,   and economy class, which is the poor people section   from $4.47.  

[01:18:29] Duuude-Ron :

The poor folk.  

[01:18:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But still,   you can make it to Korea in about fourteen hours, man.  

[01:18:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I know. It was a miserable flight the first time.  

[01:18:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. But see, just think you'd be going as a civilian, man.  

[01:18:44] Duuude-Ron :

It's a whole different ball of wax. Well, yeah, you're exactly right. It's a whole different ball of wax.   I don't know.   There's a lot of places in this country I still need to see,   like Sturgis.  

[01:18:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Same here.  

[01:18:59] Duuude-Ron :

Appalachian Trail.   That's probably my biggest bucket list thing   is to travel the Appalachian Trail.   I'm sure not to sure the fuck not gonna walk it like some people do.  

[01:19:12] Rich Chelson:

Why not?   If you wanna experience the Appalachian Trail, then experience the Appalachian Trail. Come on.  

[01:19:19] Duuude-Ron :

God. Well, I would drive right next to it. I ain't walking fucking   1,392   miles or whatever the fuck of the distance is on that.  

[01:19:28] Rich Chelson:

Hey, MB.  

[01:19:30] Duuude-Ron :

Now there are people my age that have walked the fucking There's eight year olds who walk it.   You know what? That 80 year old individual,   you know what? I'll drive by and toss you out a bottle of water.  

[01:19:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. I'd stop and shake his hand or her hand.  

[01:19:49] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's  

[01:19:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Get back in the car or in the Jeep and keep going.  

[01:19:54] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, like I said, you know, toss them out a bottle of water. Hopefully, it   doesn't hurt them too bad when it's flying 30 miles an hour,   but I wouldn't be that rude.  

[01:20:06] Bryan Goodwin:

You'd at least stop and get out and give it to them. Right?  

[01:20:09] Duuude-Ron :

Probably.  

[01:20:10] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.   I I feel a little better then.  

[01:20:14] Duuude-Ron :

You feel a little bit more love?  

[01:20:16] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:20:18] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.   Yeah.   The reason why I was late tonight is because I had to be   the supervisor of the shit show.   So Hey. My my neighbor,   the one that just bought the house across the street from us,   he just got stationed here at Fort Hood. It's a younger couple just like   the neighbors that   moved to me on the right hand side who well, shit. All all three of them.   To the left and right of me are young couples,   and then the one across the street from me is a younger couple as well. But   yeah.   And now we I found out the other day that   the MOS that he has   was the same MOS that I was, which was a 13 Fox.  



[01:21:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[01:21:05] Duuude-Ron :

So we got that in common.   But, yeah, he's he purchased a, you know, an older pickup truck because he has one of those   7.2   liter or six seven or whatever the fucking   the big Chevy fucking   motor is   on that full size jacked up,   six inch litters.   It it okay. I believe you. I I I don't remember what he said.   So he lives here and where, obviously, where he works   oh, it's about,   you know, close to a 40 mile drive.   It's about 45 miles or forty five minutes from   my house to what my unit was   back on Fort Hood.   Mhmm. So   think how much gas that son of a bitch eats,   that 7.3 or whatever liter it is.  

Well, it's six inch lift.  

[01:22:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Go ahead. I was gonna say I was gonna say it, depends on how hard he he pushes on that skinny pedal.  

[01:22:10] Duuude-Ron :

You're absolute you are without a doubt correct. And he's kind of a heavy footed individual   Okay. Of that skinny pedal. So based upon conversation, I haven't seen him drive, but based upon conversation,   his right foot is a little bit heavier than his left foot.   So he bought this, you know, little Nissan,   not a full,   you know, like, the cab and a half, basically.   Old Nissan pickup truck with the extended cab.   And   he's he's trying to, you know,   get everything fixed because   let's see, he his daughter was born   three days ago, four days ago.  

And he's deploying to,   I think it's Poland.   Just the quick reactionary force for   the coast where who the fuck are the Russians fighting right now? Ukraine.   Ukraine.   So they're going to Poland,   and it's a rotationary   quick reactionary force, but it's a nine month deployment.   And he he deploys in   sometime in November.  

[01:23:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[01:23:29] Duuude-Ron :

So he got this little pickup truck, and he's trying to get everything fixed up. It's an old one. But,   yeah, he said he's fucking   his gas bill is, like,   30%   of what he was spending on the big truck.  

[01:23:45] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't doubt that. Yeah. Don't doubt that at all.  

[01:23:48] Duuude-Ron :

But he's trying he's trying to get everything   fixed on it before he gets deployed.   So   he's got   he replaced the   the throttle body sensor.   No. Yeah. Throttle body sensor,   but didn't replay and the MAP sensor's on order.   He has to go buy the o two sensors.   But when he replaced   the MAP sensor,   the car just went into fucking retard mode   and just went, duh, ain't got a fucking right hand   And died.  

[01:24:29] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[01:24:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And so   now he's trying to   figure out   what fucked up or what   electronic sensor is not talking to this sensor,   not allowing the truck to run.   So now he's got   the map sensors on order,   the throttle body,   the one that he bought   that was for that truck.   If you look at the pins in them, are completely   different setup.   Now it goes   it clicks in,   but the setup   is just completely different.   So we're like, okay.  

[01:25:16] Bryan Goodwin:

That could be as major problem right there.  

[01:25:18] Duuude-Ron :

Well and we put the old sensor back in,   but it's still running that,   So something   has   hit   dumbass mode,   and something isn't talking to something else. Oh, yes.  

[01:25:33] Rich Chelson:

Oh, woah. Woah. Woah.  

[01:25:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:25:36] Duuude-Ron :

So,   yeah, the fuel filter   that he bought today,   the one that was for that particular truck   was not the one   that was actually in the truck.   So then he had to go we had to figure out the number of the one that he had   in the truck,   not for the Nissan,   and go get that one   because the true one was a wholly   completely different setup. It's like  

[01:26:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Dang.   So   yeah. Now he's not What, what kind of truck did he get?  

[01:26:16] Duuude-Ron :

The one that he's worked on, the one that he got was   a 1992   Nissan   extended cab. His big truck   is   the fucking big Chevy   7.3   liter v eight,   fucking   diesel,   one of the fucking   big Chevy trucks.   It's got a six inch lift,   and this has all come from the factory like this. Yeah. Six inch lift, nice rims, 35 inch tires,   $98,000.   Good god.   Yeah.  

[01:26:57] Bryan Goodwin:

That hurts.   Yeah. I know. Me. Okay. It hurts me.  

[01:27:04] Duuude-Ron :

All the way to to Louisiana,   it hurts.   Or to Mississippi or I should say to Mississippi.   If it's hurting you, man, it's hurting for quite a distance. Yeah?   Yeah.   $98,000   is what he paid for that pickup, he told me. I'm like,   you know what?   And his wife is also in the military, so it's still military.   But it's like, you know what?   Yeah. I'm glad you got that kind of money.  

[01:27:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I it's   you know, it's honestly, if you ask me because, I mean, when we were in,   you know, I mean,   you could walk on any car lot,   drive off in anything.  

[01:27:48] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it's true.  

[01:27:49] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, literally, because they knew they was gonna get their money.   Yes. There was there was no doubt in their mind because they just they gonna take it write out your check,   you know, or stereo systems. Whatever you wanted, you could get. Now, Brian, let me ask you. Since he was in the navy, did you have access   to stuff like that or no?  

[01:28:12] Rich Chelson:

Not really. I mean, you got   I mean, they would they would cover your,   your your   expenses   if you were   going from from station to station.  

[01:28:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. No. No. I mean I mean, like like,   when,   no. When   when you was on   I guess, surely is what it is for you.   Did you all have the shops to where,   you know,   you could go buy the big screen TVs or the stereos? Or Oh, we do have the exchange is what what we have.   No. No. I mean I mean I mean I mean, it was there, but, I mean,   when you went off post.   Because you see  

[01:29:00] Rich Chelson:

and, okay, in the army Well, no. Because in in well, on the   at, oh,   oh, what was the name of that dam at,   well,   Coronado. Good god. Good thing in the name of the damn island we were parked on. I mean, it was whenever you got off, it was just, you know, you were right there at,   basically at the bridge.   So   you didn't, you know, there wasn't any other really any stores around. Now, you know, they had all the, all the scumbag   car dealers around.   You know, you go a little ways down down   down the strip,   and, yeah, you had   the you had the,   you had the car dealers hanging out there, selling you a car for, you know, 30%   interest and stuff like that.  

No. And because, you know, the government you know, if you,   if you   the government will make you, pay it back. They will   they will, they will will,   garnish your wages.  

[01:30:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. No. Yeah. But no. You see, I didn't know because they're like in the army.   Every post   is built   near a town. If if not if not butted right up next to it, it's not more than a couple miles away.   Okay? And then and then as soon as you drove through, normally, it's the back gate.   You'd   that's where you had all the rent to own places for anything you wanted.   Right. And then there was car dealerships. And, of course,   everybody being in the military, they'd be like, oh, yeah. We've we got the form. We'll just, you know, process it. Sign here. We'll just process it. Take it right at your Yeah. You'll get everything. Yeah. Yeah. You'll get every you'll get, you'll get whatever quality you want. You can have brand spanking new,  

[01:30:54] Rich Chelson:

drive off to, you know, 100%,   100% financing. Wouldn't even have to put down payment. Oh, yeah.   Yeah. Like I said, didn't mention that,   that,   that there was a   that there was how much interest was, and most guys being young enough, they didn't even care. Right. They weren't paying attention for it.  

[01:31:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah. I mean I mean, yeah, we were young. You know, we didn't have no   we had no idea about entry.   Right. No. No. Reason I'm asking is because   since you went on ship,   where did you keep the stuff that you bought?  

[01:31:34] Rich Chelson:

You know, like like at home. Well, unless you had a unless you had an apartment.  

[01:31:38] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Did you when you were not on the ship as a single soldier,   did they have barracks,  

[01:31:44] Rich Chelson:

rooms? No. Nope. You stayed on the ship.  

[01:31:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Really?  

[01:31:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Okay. So   Okay. Where did you keep all your personal shit at when  

[01:31:54] Rich Chelson:

In your in your coffin locker.  

[01:31:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow. So y'all   y'all couldn't have a lot of stuff there. No.  

[01:32:02] Rich Chelson:

No. If you from time to time, if you knew somebody there, that had a   that had a, a, like, a an air conditioning,   unit in their in their space,   and they were cool with it,   they would,   they'll let you they'll let you store it there.   But, you know,   you had to be able to   you had to be able to put your,   your stuff in the   And then in a   you had to just be able to store it,   and it had to be able to be get put away. Now you could. When we're when we were underway, there was actually a lot of times we would actually take   I would utilize the overhead space, and I would take, like, some extra stuff that I had, and I would stuff it up into   the   up in the, in the the pipes and stuff that was overhead that was in the overhead because I was low band on the totem pole with me. I got, the top,   top rack.  



[01:33:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.  

[01:33:02] Rich Chelson:

So,   yeah, you might be able to set up, but you're gonna be setting up, and your head's gonna be in a bunch of a bunch of pipes and things like that. So Right. Okay. Because, yeah, because, see, we had actual  

[01:33:15] Bryan Goodwin:

rooms,   you know, in barracks,   and so we could keep the stuff in our rooms.  

[01:33:21] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:33:22] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. I mean I mean I mean, I went I kinda asked a question   in kind of a long way. I didn't mean to. It just   it's just where Mass afterwards? Come out. Yeah.  

[01:33:34] Rich Chelson:

Well, you know, sometimes we gotta ask it as backwards. So okay. So  

[01:33:39] Duuude-Ron :

when you're back   at your home base,   You were still   sleeping on this the ship.   Right?   Yep.   Okay. So   you didn't have   no big TV, obviously.  

[01:33:57] Rich Chelson:

Nope. The the only TV you had was sitting in the,   sitting in the entertainment room.  

[01:34:02] Duuude-Ron :

That's crazy.   Daniel, did you have were you single   during your life in the military? No? Okay. I was  

[01:34:11] Rich Chelson:

I was married.  

[01:34:12] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   So what did the single soldiers   do with their vehicles?  

[01:34:18] Rich Chelson:

Oh, oh, you could park them. They had parking.   You just had to have base parking, and you had to have it and all that. So, you know, you just had to have proper   documentation   and insurance and all that good stuff.   Right. Right. So, I mean, that's all you really had to have. So I because there are several times where, you know, if we were   underway,   like, when we were doing   when we were doing our, our Westpac,   you know, there no one's driving the cars for, for six months.  

[01:34:51] Duuude-Ron :

Wow. Yeah. But what it was it in a pretty much secured area? Yeah. It's in a secure area. It's on base. Okay.   Well, shit. We got on base too, but we fucking there ain't no secure parking areas.  

[01:35:06] Bryan Goodwin:

I I remember I remember I had a pair of Kenwood six by nines   in a old Oldsmobile,   and,   those sons of bitches got stolen.  

[01:35:16] Rich Chelson:

Oh, shit.  

[01:35:17] Bryan Goodwin:

And, my car was locked up, parked, and everything.   I was upset because they was, like,   I think I I think I was paying altogether 600 and some dollars.  

[01:35:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. For for two six by nines.  

[01:35:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.   On that easy payment plan, dude.   I was all about that easy payment plan now.  

[01:35:42] Duuude-Ron :

And and they what? They gave you fucking huge rocks as lube. Right?  

[01:35:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, at the time, I didn't feel it. When that got Oh. Yeah. I got upset because I still had to pay for them bitches.   I was not happy.  

[01:36:01] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I had you know, he wasn't my roommate, but lived in the barracks.   Yeah. The stereo system that he fucking bought   and this was 8087.   And, I mean, he had the freaking tower. This was for room, not for vehicle.   He had the tower speakers. He had every fucking component. He even had a reverb.  

[01:36:26] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh my god.  

[01:36:28] Rich Chelson:

Oh, so he went rare he went annoying. He didn't just go off and share his music. He made sure his music was as annoying as possible.  

[01:36:36] Duuude-Ron :

Sometimes, yes.   Yeah. I should pay for that system back in 1987.  

[01:36:42] Bryan Goodwin:

It was about $2,500,   I think. No. Say.  

[01:36:46] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. Duh.   A little bit more than double that.   Almost $6,000.  

[01:36:55] Rich Chelson:

I mean, it it was Yeah. I remember it too because we used to have a I used to love to go to,   I can't remember the name of the damn store in Amarillo.   There was just a stair basically, that's all they were about, was a stereo store.   And you saw them a couple times in the movies.   There were these   clear   this clear radio. It had during after c CDs came about,   and it was this   it had a a clear acrylic or glass   cover that went over   all the, all the, the components.   But what you did is it actually had one of the first instances I saw of   motion activated. And you when you went to do something, you waved your hand in front of the,   in front of the the   the panels, and they would slide apart,   and then you could actually make changes and stuff like that. There was about size of a large boombox,   But, I mean and the the the   the speakers themselves, they were they were separated, but and they were, I don't know, probably about   maybe a foot and a half tall on each one, maybe a little maybe taller, probably close to two foot.  

But it was all clear also. Everything on it was clear with it. And so it was just that was way cool, but, yeah, that thing was, like, $1,500.   And I was just like, son of a bitch. Damn it. I'll never be able to afford that. Someone's gotta be stupid rich to be able to afford that. You know?  

[01:38:25] Duuude-Ron :

And then you finance the company. Man, dude.  

[01:38:29] Rich Chelson:

Oh, no. Even back then, I for whatever reason, the   the   finance gods   have never liked.   Even in even whenever I was first out of school,   a lot of my friends, they were able to go off, get   get credit cards, things like that. I would try from time to time. I was like, yeah. Let's go to kindergarten.   Everybody was like   like, yeah. Get a credit card, and we'll give you a T shirt. So, hell, yeah. I've I got free T shirts out because, you know, I'd go be walking around Emerald College, and there'd be someone there throwing T shirts at you if you, fill out a   an application for a card. And, eventually, I I realized it's like, yeah. They're basically gonna look at my credit and go, hell, fuck no, and and just laugh and go, oh, okay. We'll write on the, the T shirt for him.  

And I I I had a one of those finally got one of those starter cards where you actually have to pay them $500   first, and then they start it up.   And so you end up with your your credit limit is half that amount.   Wow. Yeah. Just a secure yeah. Secure credit card. It's a secure credit card. And we I tried that once,   and, I mean, that was a big pain in the ass because I was like, yeah. Okay. Well, you know, I got paid, and I was like, alright. Let's throw some throw some extra money over over to that, and let's, let's have   a secured,   credit card. And yeah. Yeah. That was that was the disaster and a half. So I was like, you know what? No. Apparently,   whatever they whatever their, their algorithm is that tells you, hey. This guy is not good at, with money. No. They it was apparently good because   the few times that I even tried to play the system to where I might be able to get something like that, it was like, yeah. Okay. That's why they said no. I mean,   I've got to spend a little time in jail for a hot check. And so after that, I realized, yeah, we're not paying with checks no more. We're not gonna we're just it's all I'm on a cash bay cash per cash basis, and that's all we're doing.  



[01:40:31] Duuude-Ron :

Right. And, for a long time.  

[01:40:34] Rich Chelson:

That's what it was, and it's still basically cash basis. I just use a debit card now.  

[01:40:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   That is funny.   But, yeah, you know, it's funny. You know, we're we're all sitting here talking about what we used to do and everything.   You know, if there's if there's any   younger people listening to this later on,   they're   they're just gonna crack up. They're gonna be like, what the hell, man? Life was hard.  

[01:41:01] Rich Chelson:

Life ain't hard. Life is the same now as it was back then. It's just   people take take it and they what they're what they're going through, and they make it to make it more personal nowadays.  

[01:41:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Right. Right.  

[01:41:14] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. How about woke?   Yeah. Now here we go.   Don't woke.   Wake the fuck up.   Exactly.   Yeah. There's a difference between   woke and wake   and wake. Yeah.   It's it's amazing that,   one,   they're allowed to breed,   and two   and don't get me wrong. You know,   my neighbor just   their daughter   is almost a week old.   And congratulations,   you know, younger couple.   You know? But some of these people out there,   yeah, I'm sorry, but   some of them should not be breeding.   Yeah.   And I'm sure my mom said the same thing about my generation.  

[01:42:04] Rich Chelson:

Oh, heck yeah.  

[01:42:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You know what's funny? You know, All these all these all these newer kids are like, oh, this is so new. You know? And they're they're saying all this stuff.   They don't realize that their great great great great great granddaddy   said the same exact words.  

[01:42:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:42:25] Bryan Goodwin:

You know?   I mean, back then, back back five grades, the words might have been a little different, but the meaning was the same.  

[01:42:33] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Yeah. They didn't use skibbidi.  

[01:42:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[01:42:40] Duuude-Ron :

So the bell bottoms.   They just they just this generation just thinks they are the shit   that they have bell bottoms.  

[01:42:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh my god.  

[01:42:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Back in fucking the seventies, they had them then too.  

[01:42:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I I   I had a few pair of jeans that was,   that were bell bottoms.   Late seventies, I think.  

[01:43:07] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Yeah. Never had any feed eaters.   I didn't like them. I think I think I had one or two parent. I didn't really like them. Well, they did a really good job at school making it to where we didn't we didn't want them anyhow. So and because and this is back when first, second grade, you know, just after the bell bottoms because they were talking about in during school, you don't,   you know, you don't wanna   you don't wanna use   bell bottoms while riding bikes because you might get your   get your, bell bottom pants, caught in there, and then all of a sudden you go to wreck and and die. And so  

[01:43:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, no. That's true. You wind up going over the handlebars.  

[01:43:49] Duuude-Ron :

So  

[01:43:50] Bryan Goodwin:

that's a true   know that, but it's   that that is a proven fact.  

[01:43:58] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because you, what, did it?  

[01:44:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Once or twice.   Yeah. Once or twice. Oh my god. Yeah. That was yeah. That hurt. I'm telling you. Because I I was normally   riding on gravel,   not the road. I was riding on gravel when yeah. That man.  

[01:44:16] Duuude-Ron :

Well, uh-huh.   That fucking  

[01:44:19] Bryan Goodwin:

hurts. Yeah. That's why that's why my my right pant leg was always rolled up by Yeah.  

[01:44:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:44:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Or you had one of those   bike or   a a clasp   for your pants.  

[01:44:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.   Yep. Or a clothes pin or something. Anything to keep I said Keep pants on anything.   Yep.   But the most  

[01:44:49] Duuude-Ron :

words of Archie Bunker,   those were the days.  

[01:44:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Right. Right.   But the most fun on a bicycle,   I I had really with   clothespin and a playing card.   Man, I sounded like a motorcycle, dude.  

[01:45:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   That was I agree with that.  

[01:45:09] Bryan Goodwin:

That was awesome.   And then when you  

[01:45:13] Duuude-Ron :

put four on the front right spoke   or   the front   yeah. Right spoke of   the or fork, I should say.   Two on the left front fork,   two on the back   on either side, so you had eight.   You know what that sounded like?  

[01:45:33] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I never did that.  

[01:45:35] Duuude-Ron :

That sounded like   shit.  

[01:45:40] Bryan Goodwin:

No. I just did a one. May I think I tried two, but went back to the one.   That one sounded cooler.  

[01:45:47] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Eight sounded like shit.   One sounded cool.  

[01:45:54] Bryan Goodwin:

That's a case where more is not better.  

[01:45:59] Duuude-Ron :

More was not better   by far.   Yeah. That just sound like you   I can't even describe the sound,   really.   That's how that's how fucked up it was. You really couldn't describe the sound.  

[01:46:16] Bryan Goodwin:

That's crazy.  

[01:46:17] Duuude-Ron :

Too much fucking chatter.   Oh, yes.   But it was   fun. Yes. It was. Oh my god. Get that you get those couple pieces of two by fours and that   broken up piece of Plywood. Plywood.  

[01:46:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes, sir.   And you had a  

[01:46:37] Duuude-Ron :

you had a motherfucking ramp.  

[01:46:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You did.  

[01:46:41] Duuude-Ron :

And you were cool.  

[01:46:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep.   And if you weren't careful, you'd crack your nuts on that center bar across the bike   right underneath the seat.   Oh, that was Yeah.  

[01:46:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:46:54] Bryan Goodwin:

That fucking made me cry. I ain't gonna lie.   I balled like a baby because I jumped the ramp. I was going good. I jumped the ramp.   And   I I caught air, and I was real happy, and I landed.   And   and the weld where   where those bars come together on the   on the,   main shaft,   you know, going down the front tire, the weld broke.   Oh.   And and I was I was still standing up when I landed, so so I didn't   bust my tailbone.   But   the forward momentum, when I landed, I wound up missing a seat.   And, I mean, I I freaking balled myself right onto that bar and just,   yeah,   rolled off right there, tumbling.  

Bike goes running. I I mean, I was mad because I couldn't ride a bike no more.   I had to go get it re welded,   which I had to pay for  

[01:47:56] Duuude-Ron :

and shit. Oh, yeah?  

[01:47:57] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. I think it cost me, like, $2.  

[01:48:01] Duuude-Ron :

And   But $2   was a lot of fucking money.  

[01:48:06] Bryan Goodwin:

You're goddamn right. That was 20 pop bottles, dude.  

[01:48:09] Rich Chelson:

I had to find five bottles to get two bucks.  

[01:48:13] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? But I found them. I was back riding in a couple days,   but I didn't I didn't jump the bike after that. I was too scared. That hurt.  

[01:48:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That that well would fucking break. Yeah. I fucking believe that.  

[01:48:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That yeah. I was not expecting that at all.  

[01:48:33] Duuude-Ron :

And when you and I'm sure when you got home, you're still crying. Your mom says, shut the fuck up, or I'm gonna give you something to cry about.  

[01:48:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.   He's like, well, your dumbass jumped your bike, and you weren't supposed to, so you got what you deserved.   Oh, yeah. There was there was no sympathy. None.  

[01:48:56] Duuude-Ron :

Nope. Because it wasn't official dirt bike that you had. Correct?  

[01:49:00] Bryan Goodwin:

No. It wasn't. Okay.  

[01:49:03] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I'd I'd I can I know which bike you're talking about because I had one of those?  

[01:49:09] Bryan Goodwin:

It was an old it was an old 26 inch bike.   I guess I   see at a yard sale, and   when I first got it, I almost couldn't ride it. I wasn't big enough yet, but it didn't take long. And I grew,   and, yeah, man, I rode that bike fucking everywhere.  

[01:49:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Because if if you didn't ride that bike everywhere,   guess what?   You were fucking walking everywhere.  

[01:49:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Yes, sir. That's right. And  

[01:49:39] Duuude-Ron :

that was a lot slower.   Yes.   Wasn't more time consumption.  

[01:49:44] Bryan Goodwin:

And, yeah, that   that just wasn't working right, so I just ride the bike. It'd be a lot quicker.  

[01:49:51] Duuude-Ron :

You know, and I had to   I and in high school, we did not have   buses.   Like, they did school buses.   My town didn't have school buses.  

[01:50:03] Bryan Goodwin:

What the hell did it?  

[01:50:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. We did have school buses.  

[01:50:07] Bryan Goodwin:

What did you have? That's for a week.  

[01:50:11] Duuude-Ron :

We had fucking LPCs,   leather   personnel   carriers.   So grade school for me was   a block and a half from my house.   Junior high,   it was a   mile   from my house.   And if you wanted if you had the money to to fucking   ride on the public buses,   you could ride on the public bus.   But you fucking walked   a mile each way   every day to school.   To high school,   that was   more than 20 miles   round trip   easily.   Yeah. You you took the fucking   the regular,   city bus.   Or if you had a bicycle and you fucking got your ass up early enough in the morning,   you can ride your bike to school.  

But it was yeah. I one of these days, I'll look up the distance from my house to the high school,   but it was   ten, fifteen miles one way.  

[01:51:18] Rich Chelson:

Walk and a half. A block For me.   Yeah. That was in between   junior high and high the high school,   and we were a block and a half both ways.  

[01:51:31] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And I'm sure that in from kindergarten to high school,   your town was so big that you stayed in the same fucking room.  

[01:51:40] Rich Chelson:

No. No. No. Actually, yeah, we we had a kindergarten. Of course, Course, actually, I didn't go to kindergarten in that town. I went to kindergarten over in Mangum, Oklahoma.   But   about first grade, second grade, third grade, they're in primary.   Fourth, fifth, sixth,   seventh, eight or seventh and eighth.   Or no. Fourth, fifth, and sixth,   they were in   so there's the primary. We that was elementary.   Junior high was the seventh and eighth,   and then   you went over to high school for the last four, nine, ten, eleven, 12.   Oh, wow.  

Oh, I mean, we we had a pretty decent school. I mean, we had, you know, two but, essentially,   right around 2,000 people the whole time. It was usually   about nineteen fifty two, somewhere along that. Nowadays, I think they're actually up in the they broke the 2,000 finally.  

[01:52:35] Duuude-Ron :

But but yeah. How many was it how many was in your graduating class? 42.   42?   Yep.   Mine was little over 1,300.  

[01:52:46] Rich Chelson:

And y'all didn't have   buses?  

[01:52:49] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[01:52:50] Rich Chelson:

We did not have buses. That is crazy. I mean, in town kids didn't have buses, but   the out of town kids were bussed in. Yeah.  

[01:53:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. We,   I didn't get that luxury.   Yeah. There was no   school buses in Lincoln, Nebraska   in any way, shape, or form.  

[01:53:13] Rich Chelson:

They still had wagons.   Close.  

[01:53:21] Duuude-Ron :

And that was a lot of fun walking in the wintertime to junior high. I bet it was. Yeah.  

[01:53:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh, that was a blast. I remember high school going walking just walking a block and a half. And by the and that was back when I was decided, you know, it was cooler to go ahead and just take a shower   first thing in the morning and   and stuff. And so I'd get out, get myself all, brush my head and all that, and get, by the time I got to the school, if depending on how the wind was blowing, my hair froze in some funky direction.   So I would always always have my hair in some some weird position. It wouldn't didn't want it to be.   Well, shit. You did it, and you just never changed, did you? Because your hair is just in all kinds of different positions. No. It it's still it still looks wind blown, but that's one reason why now just basically just caesar it and just get it as short on top as I possibly can and shorter on the sides.  



[01:54:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See, I like bald.  

[01:54:26] Rich Chelson:

If I didn't have to shave, I would I probably like bald too. But   Well yeah. It bad enough. I've been this summer, I've been   shaving the old old face again and  

[01:54:38] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. Oh, shit. It's no big deal, isn't it?  

[01:54:41] Rich Chelson:

Not really. It's about the same. No. Only difference is because the sweat would collect in your beard, and it would become you know, it would be a   it was like it was like a  

[01:54:53] Duuude-Ron :

an air conditioner. It would keep you cool.   Oh, okay.   Yeah. No. Can't do that.   That drives me a little bit too much insane.   Just like having having air touch my ears now.  

[01:55:07] Rich Chelson:

You're right.  

[01:55:09] Duuude-Ron :

Compared to what I had when I was in high school.   That'll never happen again.  

[01:55:14] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:55:15] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that and it's all receded to my back now, so what's the difference?   I just I don't have long enough arms to braid that,   but I could braid my hair in high school.   Now, of course, I didn't, but I couldn't  

[01:55:32] Bryan Goodwin:

help. Yeah. I tried going bald once.  

[01:55:36] Duuude-Ron :

I cannot see you with bald. I really can't.   Same way with you, Brian. I could not see a bald.  

[01:55:43] Rich Chelson:

I've done I mean,   I've done the whole   Westpac haircut   deal where you just buzz everything off by the time you get to your first your first porta call. It's usually going out enough to where it looks all night. But  

[01:56:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I know. I lived that in basic training. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   I've done an AIT.   AIT. You can have iron sights.  

[01:56:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Hey. I'll be back in a few minutes.  

[01:56:14] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Alright. She gotta go gotta go outside.   Power and slow.   Yeah.  

[01:56:20] Duuude-Ron :

And that high and tight,   it wasn't very high.   Maybe   if you're lucky, a quarter of an inch   was your high.   But, you know, now I have nothing.  

[01:56:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It just wasn't   well, I had enough I had enough trouble with   the with the first class petty officers throwing shit fit about how whether I was shaved or not shaved. Well, if I ended up shaving every freaking day that they want you to shave,   I'd look like I used the Bobcat shaving system.   That's where you take it grab a Bobcat by its with a scruff of its neck,   Take your thumb, ram it up its butt, and use the use the foot to  

[01:57:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:57:09] Duuude-Ron :

Shit. Well, we had to fucking shave every fucking day.   Yep. As far as y'all goes.   Yep. You better be clean shaven   in the morning.   Yeah. I had one soldier had to shave three times a day.   Oh, yeah. One of those guys that  

[01:57:28] Rich Chelson:

oh, yeah.  

[01:57:29] Duuude-Ron :

He had a 05:00 shadow by eleven.  

[01:57:33] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. A little good old aggressive beards.  

[01:57:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   I was never let   well, I wouldn't say fortunate.   I guess I'd have to say thankful.  

[01:57:44] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:57:45] Duuude-Ron :

I only had to shave once a day.  

[01:57:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I shave   I shave   at the most, I'll shave every other day.   But most of the time, I it's,   I will I I will shave right now, like, these days, I I I'll shave about once every   every three to six days depending on how lazy I wanna be with it.  

[01:58:08] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Right now, I shave once a week.  

[01:58:11] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:58:13] Duuude-Ron :

Because   I can.   Exactly.   Back in those days, you didn't have a choice.  

[01:58:20] Rich Chelson:

No.   You're not the one that got to,   got to make the decisions as to   as to what to what facial style you wanted.  

[01:58:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And   in the army,   understand,   you know, people that had shaving profiles   because they got bumps on their necks. Right? I got that. Yeah.   And   but now,   all they're in the army,   there's a very, very loose standard   of   the facial hair.   I mean, just   in common.   You can have a fucking tight beard   in the army now.  

[01:59:05] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[01:59:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's how loose the standards have gotten.   I think   with this   secretary of defense,   yeah, I think, you know,   lot of shit is changing.  

[01:59:20] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:59:21] Duuude-Ron :

They're taking the DEI out.  

[01:59:24] Rich Chelson:

They're taking Yeah. I knew they were taking the DEI out there, plucking that thing out, thankfully.  

[01:59:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. They're taking the woke out.   They're taking   the transgender.  

[01:59:35] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[01:59:36] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. And   we're going back to the old days.  

[01:59:40] Rich Chelson:

That's good. We need it. Yeah. They  

[01:59:43] Duuude-Ron :

and   he even   I can't remember. I was watching on on YouTube,   but it was I think   it was a a segment off of Fox   that the secretary of defense has now   allowed   the   trashing of the barracks,   like, in basic training.  

[02:00:10] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   toss your shit again.  

[02:00:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   They can toss, and they can also   shark.  

[02:00:19] Rich Chelson:

What's that one?  

[02:00:21] Duuude-Ron :

Shark is when all the drill sergeants get around   one guy.   Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.   He is he's bringing that back.  

[02:00:31] Rich Chelson:

Well, good.  

[02:00:33] Duuude-Ron :

So they're they're going back to   some of the   old ways of life.   No more stress cards well.   And they haven't had stress cards for some time now,   but that whole fucking   mindset is going bye bye.   Right.   Yeah. And   out of that group that I was telling you about earlier, that OSET battery,   that   that   time frame,   they had stress cards of basic and AIT,   and that was their mindset.   And we were doing something.   I can't remember what. I think it was disciplining   a couple of soldiers,   but   a whole group was there.   And one of those soldiers pulled out that stress card.   I said,   okay.  

Let me read that stress card.   And, you know, I don't remember what the hell it said. That's only been fucking,   what,   02/2005,   maybe 2006   time frame.   So it's been, what, nineteen   roughly nineteen years ago.   Yep. So I got that stress card. Yeah. So I get that stress card from that kid,   and I tear it up into confetti   and just basically throw it back into his face. And that It's like, what are you gonna do about it? No?   And I said,   now   you think about this.   You're getting ready to deploy   into a fucking combat zone.   Do you really think   the enemy   gives a fuck  

[02:02:15] Rich Chelson:

that your stress you to be that be that weak.  

[02:02:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. You   think they give a shit   about your stress level?   They will fucking shoot your ass all the same.   They don't give two shits about that stress card   Nope. Whatsoever.   That bullet is going to   and it is not   racially   discriminative.   It that bullet don't give a flying fuck what color your skin is, what your religion is,   what your background is. It don't fucking care. It's gonna kill you all the same.   Plain and simple.   Exactly. Real you really wanna fucking go into a combat zone   with that mindset,   you better fucking think that one again.   Oh, yeah. They yeah.  

Stress cards never came out again.   I said, I'm I am getting ready.   Yes. I'm an asshole,   and I'm getting ready to get you   deployed over into a combat zone.   I have two jobs   right now.   I told this to every single soldier that I had regardless if they're getting ready to deploy or come   back. I said, there's only two jobs I have right here right now.   One is to train you up for combat,   and the other one is to get your ass home   back alive.   Right. And anything else   is fucking irrelevant.  

[02:03:55] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't know. Two objectives.   So  

[02:03:58] Duuude-Ron :

do you think I'm an asshole now?  

[02:04:01] Rich Chelson:

No.   I was gonna say, wait till you meet the enemy.  

[02:04:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[02:04:06] Rich Chelson:

Their whole purpose is to make you stressed so you give up your shit.  

[02:04:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.   So,   yeah, that don't that don't fucking fly here. It sure the fuck don't fly in combat.   Nope. So   yeah.   Leave that mindset here and now.  

[02:04:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's the issue I had with a lot of the folks who wanted to to run that,   that style of military. It's like, okay. Well, it proves to us that you are not a   not a   a a,   a friendly for the   for this   United States government because you're too busy worrying about what you know,   seeing how you can, put us at a disadvantage for the,   for the enemy. So, you know,   that would be that that'd have   be too busy yelling at,   at senators going, hey. Stop trying to get us killed.  

[02:05:02] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's the problem.   For a longest while, the senior   command structure   was all about,   you know, how   many how many times they could kiss the fucking   politician's   ass.   Right.   No. You're gonna fucking get somebody killed is what you're gonna do.   Let the politics fucking  

[02:05:25] Bryan Goodwin:

Yay.  

[02:05:28] Duuude-Ron :

You let the politicians   dictate   the fucking   military.   Yeah. Yeah. You're, yeah, you're just gonna fuck everything up, and they did.  

[02:05:40] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[02:05:41] Duuude-Ron :

Sure the fuck did.   But   I am no longer in, so I don't have to worry about it.  

[02:05:49] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:05:50] Duuude-Ron :

I don't think I could survive in the military right now.   Even going back in as my old rank,   yeah, I wouldn't survive very well   because I am not   politically correct nor am I politically   yeah. We'll just say I'm not politically correct.  

[02:06:10] Bryan Goodwin:

You're the type that is NSFW,  

[02:06:14] Rich Chelson:

not Yeah. Not safe for work.  

[02:06:17] Duuude-Ron :

Not   safe for work.   I have never heard that one before.  

[02:06:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Really? Oh, yeah. Really?   I didn't know I didn't know what it was for a long time, but,   you know, you see pictures and   you see that NSFW,   and I'm like, what's that? I had to look it up. And then and They're like, oh, dirty pictures.   And and then I saw the picture, and I saw the NSFW.   Yeah. I can see how that picture would not be safe for work.  

[02:06:48] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Yep.   No. My my two favorites are LLMF   and o d f f.  

[02:06:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, it's like a motherfucker, and   I'm not sure what that one is.  

[02:07:01] Duuude-Ron :

How dare fucking flapping.  

[02:07:06] Bryan Goodwin:

God. I haven't heard that in eons.  

[02:07:10] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Those are my two favorite acronyms.   Yep. Matter of fact, I told one of the drivers that the other day   because   he was supposed to go one way,   and he missed his exit   off of 35   to go to Athens.   And he had it   in his mind   that he was gonna go to Ennis.  

[02:07:36] Rich Chelson:

So I guess that's one way to go to Athens.  

[02:07:39] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. It's not the right way.   And then and he had left before I did, and there was an accident   in   the traffic or then the, construction   area   on 35 through Waco because, yeah, that's just a fucking mess again.  

[02:07:58] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:07:59] Duuude-Ron :

So it was down to one lane   on the highway going north.   And   he was in the same traffic jam that I was, and I was just   just watching people trying their damages to fucking   squeeze in to just get one car closer   or one car further up in the traffic jam. That's always fucking just amazed me. How fucking hilarious   how people   wanna try and get their   one car sooner. It's like   people were all fucking   stopped here.   Why are you trying to yeah. I just   I don't give up. I just fucking start laughing.   So, anyway, we were   shit.   We were halfway between   Elmont   and Hillsborough   when I passed him.  

I'm like,   why the fuck am I passing this guy?   He's supposed to be his exit was, like, down in Waco   area,   and   he's already passed Elmont.   Was that, like, about   20 miles? No. Not that far. Yeah.   From the Southern part of Waco up to Elmont is about 20 miles.   And we were north of Elmont. Now past him, any you know?   And I get back in the lane in front of him. He flashes his lights   to let me   lane. I turn on my hazards to thank him.   And at that particular point in time, he's like,   why the fuck am I here?   Why did Ron just pass me?   Well, probably because I was going up to Grand Prairie,   and you missed your exit,   and you're lost. And I sent him the test, and I said, you're you're just a little bit l d l or   l l m f   because you are   way the fuck out of where you're supposed to be.  

And then when he finally fucking replied,   it was like, yeah. I fucking missed my exit. Yeah. That was only about twenty minutes left, I mean,   So he got off at the next exit   and got himself turned around,   went back down south so he could get on the correct road to go over to Athens.   But I was like, man,   wow. You fucking lost like a motherfucker today. That's for damn sure.   Oh, well.   I laughed at his expense, so   that made my day.   Absolutely.   So Yeah. What   mission since you are back home now, Brian,   what missions   have you accomplished  

[02:10:51] Rich Chelson:

since you've been home? You said Let's see here. I have yeah. I try to get try to get something accomplished each day.   See,   Monday,   I got the   I got the the cabinets   underneath the   underneath the coffee pot. I got them cleaned out   and got started on the cabinets   that some of the other cabinets that have been needing to be just cleaned out because, well, we've got   we've got stuff, stuff and stuff and more stuff that's   that's   been running around there, and   and it's just   time to get time to get the crap cleaned out. And it's just built up and, you know, just   crap that we've got that we got for Christmas and, you know,   and never used or   used once and   never you never touched again type of stuff. So we were like, alright. Whatever. You know? I just gotta get that cleaned out. Today, I was going to get I was gonna work on the   work,   work some more on getting some the some more of the trees knocked down, and, yeah, that just didn't happen.  

Finally got around I got myself kinda gumptioned up. It was already 12:30, and I was like, goddamn. It's already 90 something degrees outside. That's gonna really suck. We'll do it tomorrow morning. So that's what I'm gonna try to do tomorrow morning.  

[02:12:15] Duuude-Ron :

But We'll do it.  

[02:12:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I got,   got the, the dog yard mode again,   which is one thing one that I do every every,   time I'm home just so that the   fleas and ticks don't get, out of control.  

[02:12:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:12:34] Rich Chelson:

And, see, we got went off, spent about $200   on the dogs because   Rain's ears was were bothering her, and   Watson has got scabs   on the top of his head, and we were going, what the hell could it be? And come to find out more,   the more we got to watching him and stuff, he would go to scratch, and he'd start off at the back of his neck and work himself up to the top of his head. And so we're thinking he just got he's just getting over exuberant, and it's gouging into his skull.   So   doc went off and gave him a big old shot that's supposed to supposed to basically knock all the, the allergy   problems that he's got,   knock it down for about a month.  

Okay. So he'd have skin allergies, or does he have skin allergies? Or does he have skin allergies? It's grass. Some smart,   psoriasis. We think.  

[02:13:23] Duuude-Ron :

Is what?  

[02:13:24] Rich Chelson:

We think it's grass.   He's got a grass allergy.   Oh. Because every time I'd go off and I, I brush them down.   As you brush them, I mean, it's just more and more,   I just get a bunch of of   of, of grass fibers   Oh, really? Falling out. So yeah. He he's got kinky hair   that likes to hold   likes to hold the, with the grass and everything else in there.  

[02:13:54] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay.  

[02:13:55] Rich Chelson:

It's not uncommon to see him come in from outside and be dragging a,   dragging a chunk of weed in his butt cheeks.   Just that's just what he does. He just he come walking in like nothing's wrong. He's like, dude, you got, you know, you got a plant growing out of your butt.   But   but, again, that's just someone who's someone who's not all that smart.   He just tells us me, are you?   Oh, I'm talking about Watson right now. Oh. But, you know, if the shoe fits.  

[02:14:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Dang. That's cool.  

[02:14:35] Rich Chelson:

But now it's   just   so I'm writing her her ears. She just   doc said, yeah. Just need to start taking a,   a bit of,   just rubbing alcohol   and a big old cotton pad   and,   just wet it up and   start and wrestle her down to the ground   and clean her ears with that because   the the alcohol will dry up the, the oils that are in the wax.   And so you can really get it,   get it cleaned out pretty well.   So   Does she have a lot of hair in her ears as well? No. No. She's not she doesn't have any doodle in her, so that's there's not any,   not really a problem with hair. It's just she's got big floppy ears, and so   they and and then you got Watson and his weird kink of liking the loving to lick her ears.  

So   what did I do with my phone? Oh, yeah. There it is.   And so   so, yeah, his pasta licking and   and and stuff just doesn't help it dry out at all.   And so just kind of developing a little a little bit of a yeast infection thanks to all the   all the crap that's built up in there. And  

[02:15:51] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Okay. Gotcha.   Yeah. All the moisture.  

[02:15:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So   so but, yeah, there's   there's a   there's just a front a front of a of having cats. Of course, he our our good old country doctor that we have, he   that's I think that's the most we have spent   at one time at his office ever.   Yeah. Because most of the time   I mean,   well, most of the time, we go in there just to get, like, shots and stuff like that, and   it'll come back on. And,   and   it'll end up he'll end up,   not even a   not even a $100 bills.   That's That's   Yeah. I mean, that's always you know, it's, like, 75,   $80,   which, I mean, stop.  

Incredibly inexpensive, but at the same time, you know, I have kids talk about when they take their dogs to the vet, and they're like,   god. He can leave out of there without spending $253,100  

[02:16:56] Duuude-Ron :

dollars. I was like,  

[02:16:58] Rich Chelson:

why are you ain't charging that much?  

[02:17:00] Bryan Goodwin:

But you see, that's the thing. People don't   don't realize.   You can tell the vet now.   You know, what's   there's something cheaper.  

[02:17:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, I want the fox just no. He's just   no. We're not taking you to fox. It's okay. Relax.  

[02:17:20] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. He is   fair in August.  

[02:17:24] Rich Chelson:

He is he is a country vet. I mean, it is. We were actually thinking whenever we'd taken him in to to vet Watson to see about his head,   We were expecting him basically to say, well, he's scratching a lot. That's what dogs do. You just kinda have to get find a way of managing the scratching some. And so we were like, oh, are we just gonna go over there just to just have the vet tell us he's he's being a dog?  

[02:17:50] Bryan Goodwin:

So   That that'll be no. He actually  

[02:17:54] Duuude-Ron :

he actually  

[02:17:55] Rich Chelson:

was able to educate you. Yeah. Yeah. He was and he usually does. He he's usually very good about   about getting it and getting it all taken care of, getting it nice   and   nice nicely resolved.   And, yeah, and it's   not a   ends up not being a problem at all. I mean, he get like I said, just   just,   does what needs to be done, and   you don't need me smelling my crotch, so get away from it. Yes. You.  

[02:18:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. He's a fair and honest individual.  

[02:18:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Fair and honest. Else?  

[02:18:33] Duuude-Ron :

No. Yeah. Anybody else, the best in their company, the only thing they want is money. You just gotta find that fair and honest individual.   Yeah.   Why it's so hard to fucking find a decent mechanic.  

[02:18:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It can be difficult there. I agree.  

[02:18:50] Duuude-Ron :

Because there are very few fair and honest   mechanics out there.  

[02:18:56] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:18:57] Duuude-Ron :

And what fucking the dealership around here,   I think they're at a $180   an hour labor rate.  

[02:19:05] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:19:07] Duuude-Ron :

But the one that I go to, he's I think he finally raised his price. He's at a 100 and   it's either a 135   or 140 an hour. Alright.   But, again, he ain't gonna fucking charge you   for something that you don't fucking need.   Is gonna fix the problem   that you have at hand.   Yeah.   So that's why I like, you know,   this particular mechanic that I take my jeeps to   or Jeep.   Well, all the vehicles, actually.  

[02:19:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[02:19:44] Duuude-Ron :

Well, there's nothing wrong with that. No. No. Because it's hard to find a good mechanic.  

[02:19:49] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. We got we got our local mechanic. He's good. He's over he's busy as all get out, so  

[02:19:56] Duuude-Ron :

so you may sometimes it may take him a little bit to get to your,  

[02:19:58] Rich Chelson:

to your vehicle. But  

[02:20:00] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. Yeah. And I had, yeah, I had one of those shops in Lawton, Oklahoma when I was stationed at, Fort Sill,   where if you had, you know,   a major problem with your car,   it would take you fucking   a week, week and a half to get it in   because he was that busy, but he never did any advertising.   The only advertising that he had   was, obviously,   his name was in the phone book because he was a business,   and he had business cards   sitting on his counter. But other than that, all of his all of his advertisement   was word-of-mouth.   Now that's a good mechanic.  

Exactly.  

[02:20:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. If it's if it's if he does word-of-mouth and he's a week, week and a half out,   he's a damn good mechanic.  

[02:20:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Because I had a   Buick   grand I had a Grand Am   that I bought at Fort Bragg,   and then that's the car that we had at in Oklahoma.   And it was   when they started transitioning   engines from   distributor motors   into EFI,   but the block still had that   that hole that you could put a distributor   into.  

[02:21:25] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Yeah.  

[02:21:27] Duuude-Ron :

And it was capped off and   with and it had a rubber o wing. Well, it the car was   shit. I don't remember how old at the time when,   yeah, I had the oil leak that I could not fucking find.   And he was like,   this year vehicle, it has this motor.   See that cap right there? That's where the distributor used to go to. There's an O ring in there.   Guaranteed you that it was the O ring was cracked.   Guess what?   The o ring was cracked.   He had to basically take the whole top end of the motor   off   to get to that piece   and charged me $98.  

[02:22:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh my god. Dude,   I would pay that gladly.  

[02:22:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And that's why.   He was fair and honest.   He didn't give a shit.   Well, he did give a shit, but he didn't give a shit about   what you thought the mechanical   issue was.   You explained it to him, and he was going to find   the problem   and fix   the problem.  

[02:22:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[02:22:41] Duuude-Ron :

Plain and simple.   Now, of course, if you wanted to buy a set of fucking tires and rims,   well, he would sell you tires and rims.   You know? He'd order them for you, but if that ain't what is gonna fix the problem, then why the fuck are you buying rims and tires?  

[02:22:59] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:23:00] Duuude-Ron :

Let's fucking fix the goddamn problem. And that's the way this shop operated.  

[02:23:06] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm. Okay.  

[02:23:08] Duuude-Ron :

And it was a bitch to find it initially.  

[02:23:11] Rich Chelson:

Oh, it's one of those that's hidden away.  

[02:23:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. There was a strip mall   right on one of the main streets,   and he was behind   that strip mall,   and you had to go through the back end or kinda like the alley   at the end of the strip mall   to get to his shop.   Well, I don't know how many times when I initially was trying to find this guy, how many times I drove past that fucking   you know?   It wasn't a street. It was just part of the fucking parking lot, but he was behind it. And you could find that motherfucker to save your life.   Finally found him, and   once I did, yeah,   he he had all my business.  



[02:24:02] Bryan Goodwin:

That's awesome.   Yep.   Yeah. I'm still looking. I went in I went into that shop that did my brakes because they   had to do   my ball joints   and   and all like that. The quote he gave me, it just rubbed me the wrong way.   He was saying $3,500.   That's parts and labor.   And I was just like, that's just too fucking much. You know? You know? And with ball joints and what?  

[02:24:31] Duuude-Ron :

Shocks.   Oh, fuck. You get the shocks. We'll fucking   change those when I get down there.   Yeah. I can. That long.  

[02:24:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. I can. I can. It's it's it's not bad bad. But   I went in, like, last week,   and I told him, I said, dude, you need to, rework that that,   that quote because I says, hey. That's just   that's just a little bit outrageous.   And it's a Napa shop, and there's a Napa warehouse right in town here, I found out.  

[02:25:03] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:25:04] Bryan Goodwin:

I can get,   all four shocks, the steering stabilizer,   and the four ball joints   for $800.   So it's like   so it's like you wanted to charge me $2,700   in labor? I don't think so.   No. Yeah. No. So I told him to rework it, and he said he'd call me, and he hasn't yet. I I think I pissed him off.  

[02:25:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   The shocks,  

[02:25:35] Duuude-Ron :

yeah, the shocks we can fucking do.   That's easy.   Yeah. That's easy.  

[02:25:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. They  

[02:25:42] Duuude-Ron :

what kind of shocks were you looking at?  

[02:25:46] Bryan Goodwin:

I think I think they're running,   is   I can't remember. I mean, it's nothing fancy.   You know? It's it's not because,   because the guy I I was talking to him, and   dude actually lied to me   because the shocks that he was looking to put on my Jeep were $2.50 a shot.   And I said, dude,   I said I said, that's the price of Fox shocks. And he's like, well, this is NAPA's brand of Fox shocks. Fox makes these shocks.   Well, I got home, and I started looking,   and that's not true.   Bilstein   and a few other shock makers   make the shocks for NAPA.   Fox doesn't.  



[02:26:34] Duuude-Ron :

So that's No. Fox   Fox makes for themselves.  

[02:26:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. I know. And and and that's why I looked it up because   because when he's   said that, I'm like,   no.   And it it's like, you know, I don't need   I don't need $250   docs,   you know, time four.  

[02:26:56] Duuude-Ron :

Would it be nine Jesus.   Yeah. Well, if you're gonna if you're gonna go that route, then fucking get get Fox shocks.   Exactly.  

[02:27:06] Bryan Goodwin:

You know? Exactly. If I'm paying that price, I want that fucking name.  

[02:27:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Now   Bilstein, those are pretty damn good shocks too. They were, like, a real close second to.  

[02:27:19] Bryan Goodwin:

Who's that?  

[02:27:20] Duuude-Ron :

The Bilstein?  

[02:27:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[02:27:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. Now I would not now I would not   buy Rancheros   or   Hill Country.  

[02:27:34] Bryan Goodwin:

You mean Rough Country?  

[02:27:35] Duuude-Ron :

Or rough country. Yeah. I won't I won't touch either one of those.  

[02:27:40] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. No. It just I was looking at I it's like, man, I you know   you know, I'll spend 80, you know, 75, $80, whatever,   on shocks, but I'm not spending $2.50 because   I'm not wheeling that much.   Yeah. If I was wheeling constantly,   yeah, I would have,  

[02:28:02] Duuude-Ron :

Fox shocks or something like that. You know? Yeah. The setup that is is meant for that   particular application.   Yeah. Right.   Yeah.  

[02:28:12] Bryan Goodwin:

So yeah. No. I'd yeah. I mean I mean, the shocks, I can get   anytime because, I mean, they have   it. And, yeah, it's not it's it's not hard to change   the shocks.   Yep.   And, yeah, that's why that's why Wayne priced me   he priced me, what,   15   little over 1,500 for   four shocks and a and 300 for a steering stabilizer   replacement. I'm like, man. No.   I mean, I would I would I would suffer in pain and do the job myself.   Now the ball joints Yeah. You know, the ball joints are a little more involved   than you need. Yeah.   You wouldn't need an alignment,   you know, when you do the ball joint.  



[02:29:02] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah, you're also gonna have to get the fork to   unseat the ball joints, and then you have to have the clamp to reseam.   Yeah. So, yeah, that's just a little bit more of an undertaking.  

[02:29:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. And so that I mean, that I mean, yeah, I wouldn't mind. I mean,   but, you know, it shouldn't cost no $151,600   for that.  

[02:29:25] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[02:29:27] Bryan Goodwin:

You know?   It should not.   So that's why I asked him   to rework that because I told him I said that's what that's what's,   you know, got me hold   up as that quote you give me.  

[02:29:40] Duuude-Ron :

Right? Uh-huh.  

[02:29:42] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm I'm not afraid to tell someone. Nah, dude. You can do better than that, and I know you can.   But I still haven't heard nothing, but, I mean,   I'll probably wind up just buying stocks.   We'll do them,   when you get down here. Because the ball joints ain't ain't bad bad,   but   they will make noise.  

[02:30:07] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:30:09] Bryan Goodwin:

But, yeah, this  

[02:30:11] Duuude-Ron :

I will send you a point of contact.   His name is Dylan Nance,   and he's a distributor for a lot of off road parts.  

[02:30:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh.   And, like, that box that I have in the back of my Jeep   Right.  

[02:30:28] Duuude-Ron :

I only paid $420   for that box.  

[02:30:32] Bryan Goodwin:

It's not bad.  

[02:30:34] Duuude-Ron :

New,   seems how, you know, you go   to off road or some other   company,   and they're running, you know, over $600   for that box.   Yeah. He gives a military people   discount.  

[02:30:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay.   Yeah. So because   I I mean, I've got to do something about the back of my Jeep. I've got tools and stuff back there, and I need to actually kinda clean it up.   You know?  

[02:31:03] Duuude-Ron :

You know?  

[02:31:04] Bryan Goodwin:

I mean, it works for me. I mean I mean, shit. No one rides with me. Well   well, Bella does. They do now. Right?   Normally, Bella rides in the front seat.   Now   I was I was in   Jeep today, and I opened up the back.   And   Bella jumped in on her own   and then, you know,   jumped on out when it was time to go, so that was good.  

[02:31:32] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:31:33] Bryan Goodwin:

But, yeah, normally   normally, she sits off in the passenger seat and just lays down.   Like, okay.   Now I'm thinking, you don't wanna see?   Yeah. Nope. I'm good. Just drive, please.  

[02:31:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Exactly. Drive,   geez.  

[02:31:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[02:31:54] Duuude-Ron :

Right. I just wanna I don't I just wanna feel the of the tires.  

[02:31:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's that's actually what shocked me because because,   you know, when I brought her home,   I said,   you know, the   that's that's   exactly what she did.   Got in her front seat and laid down.   Okay.   Yeah. I was afraid,   you know,   she'd throw up or something like that. Nope.   That's cool.  

[02:32:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Sounds good.   Looks like it is about time to start bringing this old bird onto the ground. So, guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for   the,   the   time and attention and the   and the,   and the work that,   that   people are trying to trying to put in for the show. We started we're going a little bit from what I was able to peak. It's not much, but at the same time, I think it's more of the fact that   it's summertime. School's actually starting to kick in now, so   I'm hoping to see that we actually grow some more. But anyhow,   it's a we are a   a value for value show, and this is one of what this actually means is that   you didn't hear any commercials the whole time we were here talking and having a   having our the discussions that we were having.  

And the reason why we don't do break in cut the, break the,   the   the flow of the conversation up and and and stuff like that   is because,   one,   if you're wanting a mattress, you know to go to Mattress Firm or someplace like that. You know how to get to a to get a mattress. You don't we don't need to sell you   a mattress from Casper or someplace like that. We don't need to sell you a toothbrush or a razor   or some new   some new widget or a box of, a monthly subscription box of of random items.   These are things that   a lot of people do go and they try to to try to sell you. This is just part of what a lot of people in the,   the podcasting industrial complex, like,   thinks that that's how you're supposed to do it. That if you wanna make money, you could advertise. Well, no. There's another way, and it's called value for value. And what it basically breaks down to is   how much is our show worth to you? How much do you think   what we talk about, the community we bring bring together,   how much is that   worth to   you? Because a lot of people, they may say, I I got a lot of, value out out of it, and   maybe I would,   I can take   a take a couple hours out of my day and and help do   chapter art. I   take some time out of my day,   and I can I can work out chapters? I can set up chapters instead of having 53 different chapters. We've only need about 28.  

You know, we can set we can   we offer the ability for you to help in either your time, your talent,   or if you're able to,   treasures. And because what we're doing   isn't free. We're but the bill for the vast majority of everything.   But at the same time, if you wanted to help us to keep going, you're able to do that. You can   go to a modern podcast app like   like True Fans or   go to Podcast Guru, and each one of those has got a a   a feature that allows them to support what's called the funding tag.   And when you hit the, the button for the funding, we'll support this show button or whatever you want. The person calls it, denies it support this show.   You get   redirected over to   to the PayPal page, and there you're able to   give any amount you want. It could be, you know, a dollar. It could be a thousand dollars. It could be more. It could be, it could be on a monthly basis, on a weekly basis, or just a one time support.  

The the options   are all yours. I hate just trying to state that there's because a lot of people will do little clubs, and they're like, oh, it's for $7   a a month. You'll get all the the full stuff. Well, then we're giving it all to you. And if you think that's worth anything,   then you can you can   throw some money in our direction. However much is all completely up to you. And   one of the, things that we like to do here is if you've got comments or questions or things like that, you can actually send that over to us, and we will   we will reply. And you don't even actually even have to pay for it on that. Again, we do everything that's free so that you   can   decide what we what we're,   valued. And we don't have we're not requiring you to pay just $7 just to   have access to the community. You have access to the community. You can   the, the   the the century is what what do you think   the community is worth?  

And so that's how that's how we're   changing our   way   of doing our,   doing the show, helping try to fund the show. And it's that's what it's for. It's not so we think we're gonna get rich. We nowhere near ever gonna get rich doing the show, but we might be able to get people to help   to fund the show, help pay for, for hosting. Or if hosting starts getting too expensive,   you know, we might have to go off and start spinning up our own types of servers and things like that. That's something, you know, miles down the road. I'm not worried about that at all.   But so we have different things that we can do, and you're able to provide that type of help. And so that's   what I like. That's the value for value model that we use because it's a lot   easier. It's a lot cleaner, and it's, you know,   it's a it's a   it's a different way   to where we don't have to sit there and   and browbeat you with commercials that   mean nothing to you. They mean they don't have any significance   in your life.  

You know? You've got,   you just bought a new mattress and box spring. You don't need the Casper mattress,   and   you don't need a you don't need a Quip toothbrush or anything like that.   So   there's   a lot of different   ways and means that you can help. And if you wanna know how you can do that, you can always shoot me an email that is CircleCast, circle,[email protected],   or you can shoot Richard an email. That's r chelson,   and that's [email protected].   And if you wanna get ahold of dude, hey. Just send one over to us because   no one remembers how to spell his, his email address. So let's just we'll just send it over to us. We'll send it over to him, and we'll hear about it, the following week.  

So with that, guys, I wanna say, yeah, again, thank you all for, for listening. Thank you all for for contributing and helping in the ways that you do. And, Rich, what do you have to say?  

[02:39:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, not too much. I wanna thank you all. You too. Again, this this I,   I enjoyed this podcast. It was it was a lot of fun.   Talked about a lot of different things, and I I just I just enjoy that, you know,   where we mix it up and don't know what we're gonna talk about sometimes.   But,   but, yeah, I wanna thank everybody else that's listening and downloading our show.   It still gets me, but you know what? Keep it going   because it's it's a lot of   you know, it keeps us going too because   at least we know   a couple of y'all are either laughing at us, loving us, hating us, or whatever. And, you know, share this out with your friends, your family,   you know, people you love, people you hate. You know, share with everybody.  

You know? Because believe me, in in our topics,   we can normally find something for everybody, whether it's good, bad, or ugly.   So, just wanna   thank you for listening, and, yeah, send us an email. Let us know what you think or if you have a topic that you want us to to, discuss.   Please, by all means, send it to myself, [email protected],   or send it to [email protected].   And like like Brian said, if you wanna hear the wisdom of the dude,   just send me a Brian email because   I can tell you right now his email address, I let Google fill it in. I don't even try to remember it   just because it's that crazy. Anyway, yeah, thanks for listening, and y'all keep coming back. Let us know. You know? Wave at us, poke us, or yell at us. We don't care. And we're all gen xers, so, yeah, it don't hurt our feelings.  

Nope.   That's about all I got. So do what you got, man.  

[02:41:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I appreciate,   as always,   being able to ramble with you guys   on about anything and everything we decide that we want   to bring up and just converse about.   And, also, as far as who is out there listening,   you know, please give us a,   jiggle or   a shout out on something that   you wanna ask us about, and   we can debate upon it. We can   shout out at each other about it. You know, just a topic that you think that,   you would like to hear us talk about.  

[02:42:07] Rich Chelson:

Absolutely.   So, guys, with that,   Rich, Ron, appreciate y'all coming on and love here talking with y'all, having the discussions that we have because there's always something interesting that comes up and we and and get a   get a cool insight to to somebody that, we never fully had, had before. So it's like I said, it's always fun to be able to,   to get to talk with y'all, and I can't wait to do it next week, guys.   So y'all take care. We will see y'all,   see y'all next week.  

[02:42:43] Duuude-Ron :

Alright.  

[02:42:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. Alright, guys. Alright. Till then. Good way to be safe.  

[02:42:48] Rich Chelson:

Absolutely. Till then, y'all take care. See you.  

[02:42:52] Duuude-Ron :

Alright. Peace out.  

[02:42:54] Rich Chelson:

Later.   Bye.   Bye.