Welcome to another episode of 2 Grumpy Vets! This week, Brian, Rich, and the Dude dive into a variety of topics, starting with the scorching summer heat in Texas and Oklahoma. They share their personal experiences dealing with the high temperatures and the challenges of housework during such weather. The conversation takes a humorous turn as they discuss random topics like peanut butter and the struggles of remembering what they were talking about.
Rich shares his recent move and the challenges of setting up his new home, including a funny story about discovering an outdoor breaker box that solved his hot water problem. The guys also discuss the pros and cons of electric vehicles, the inefficiencies of current infrastructure, and the potential future of EVs. They touch on the importance of controlled violence in sports and how it serves as a form of entertainment and stress relief for many.
The episode also delves into the topic of value for value, emphasizing the importance of community support and how listeners can contribute to the show. The hosts encourage listeners to reach out to veterans who might be struggling and to support them in any way possible. They wrap up the episode with a reminder of the importance of having meaningful conversations and building strong relationships.
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Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 grumpy vets. And, dude, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally. We do this by throwing a little social commentary with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together to show folks that living having weekly conversations is a good way to help each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude. So, guys, what have y'all been up to today?
[00:00:36] Duuude-Ron :
Dealing with the heat. Dealing with the heat.
[00:00:40] Rich Chelson:
Not too much, really.
[00:00:42] Duuude-Ron :
Housework? In Texas, it's summertime.
[00:00:48] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Yep. Basically, summertime here in, here in Oklahoma. So just, just actually, we hadn't been too, too impressively hot, though. We've just been think we've today, never got out never got out of the, or never got into the 100. It was, I mean, it was high nineties. It was, like, 98 by by the truck. That's usually, you know, about 33 degrees warmer than, than what the actual air temperature is. So it's probably about 95, 90 95, 97, probably the most. So past couple days, that's been like that. So
[00:01:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, I'll say today, I think I think I I did I did get out once. I think my Jeep got up to 98. That's that's as high as I saw it. I mean, it didn't feel, it didn't feel bad when I'd go outside and smoked cigarette, you know? I mean, like, like a few days before. Yeah. You walk out and us. Yeah. It was,
[00:01:58] Bryan Goodwin:
I mean, the hot wash rag would smack you in the face. You was doing this through the air.
[00:02:04] Rich Chelson:
Okay. You was, I mean, it was that bad. I mean, so, so I mean, yeah, I would say, I'd say probably 98 today, You know, not much more than that with the fuel temperature. So I was like, alright. That's cool. But I mean, I was inside most of the day doing my wifely duties.
[00:02:25] Duuude-Ron :
I got in the Jeep today after work. It said 111. Oh, wow. Yes.
[00:02:33] Bryan Goodwin:
That's yeah. That's that's crazy. Yeah. That's that's that's not school day for Texas though. So, I mean Oh, yeah. Damn it. That's pure the whole a cold front right there. I was gonna say something. I totally forgot all about it. No. I had that problem too. That's why I stopped up one ear.
[00:02:54] Rich Chelson:
Does it work? What's the
[00:02:56] Duuude-Ron :
No. No. Just get out of the door.
[00:03:00] Bryan Goodwin:
So what was that? Again, Ron, I was I was talking all over you.
[00:03:05] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. You always do. Anyway, no. You fuck. What the hell did I just say? I guess we'll have to, go back to that. Dude, I don't know. Brian was talking all over you, man. I know. He always does. Start talking about peanut butter.
[00:03:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Just start talking about random shit. Just airtime talks.
[00:03:29] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And I said something about something leaked out. I'm like, yeah. You're all over the pillow. You lay down and just put all over the pillow or something like that. Hell, I don't even remember. I've even said since I made that last statement.
[00:03:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. I I just I had went, let's see. Monday Tuesday. Well, after last week, last week started on Monday and didn't get done until Sunday. Now, I mean, I was I was I was getting shit set up, bringing shit over and just passing out every night. And then fucking Monday Tuesday, my ass didn't do a motherfucking thing. Nothing. No. Hell no. Not, no. But my body is, you know, I, you know, you know, thinking about going to the store and my body is like, yeah, bitch, try it. And so, so I took Monday Tuesday off and Wednesday, I forced myself to go to the story of the unit and bring some stuff over.
And and I had bought a little 5 by 8 trailers. So I loaded shit in my Jeep, loaded shit in my trailer, brought it back over here. Yeah. About that. I got everything unloaded Wednesday, but I didn't I didn't do anything today, well, except housework and stuff. But, yeah, other than that, I, I was like, I need to go finish, cleaning out my storage unit. And my body was like, oh, hell no. Now we ain't doing that. So I'm gonna hope for tomorrow. We'll see.
[00:05:12] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, just 5 by 8 trailer or what? One of those hard freight ones?
[00:05:16] Rich Chelson:
No. Lowe's.
[00:05:19] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[00:05:22] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I got it from Lowe's because, and the reason I got it. Oh, I don't know if I told you this dude. I might have, I don't know. But anyway, reason I got it, I was sitting here thinking because for like all last week, I didn't have hot water and I get changed the heating elements. The thermostats couldn't figure the shit out. I'm like, what the fuck? Don't tell me I might have to go buy a fucking hot water heater. It's like, I shouldn't. And so I finally got hold of, a plumbing guy and, I was, I was, I was bending his ear and, he's like, well, because, Sia, Sia, he'd say he, he knew, I had just moved into the house and, he knew by my phone number, I was not from the area.
Right. So he was like, have you checked the breaker box? Well, yeah, breaker box in the house only has, house, house things on it. You know, house breakers. And I like that. He says, have you checked outside? I said, excuse me. Kind of chuckled. And he said that, well, down here, he said, they, put the single pole breakers inside the house and they put the double pole breakers on the outside of the house. And I'm like, do what? He's like, yeah. He's like, he's like, go outside, check the other box and see if it's on or off and call me back. I said, okay. So I went out there and sure shit right under the meter.
There there's a big old box there. I got her open. Fucking breaker was off. I'm like, fuck.
[00:07:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Now was it, was it off or was it just tripped? No. It was off. Oh, okay. Okay. Good. Because, yeah, I was gonna say if it was if it was tripped, he might might still be running into problems from time to time. Well, you shouldn't because you changed everything. You changed the guts out. So Yeah. Yeah. I did. So, yeah. I mean, but no, it was, it was fully off. It wouldn't trip. So I flipped it on,
[00:07:47] Rich Chelson:
call, call him back right there. And I said, yeah, I found it. It was off. He said, yep. He's like, you just saved yourself a pile of money. He said, because if I, if, if, if I would have had to drive to Pascagoula, he says, nah, I would have mind you. He says, but you'd have paid for it. And I said, well, I appreciate you very much, buddy. And so, so, yeah, so, so I got, I got hot water back and because and, and it was so bad. Right? You know, I had been, you know, I, I didn't even think to pull out my fucking multimeter and check, see if I had power. I, this has been this last week and a half. I've been smart and wise and a dumbass at the same time. I
[00:08:40] Bryan Goodwin:
ain't even have those moments.
[00:08:43] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. But mine's been lasting too long here. I can take every once in a while, but good God, I'm like making up for the last what year, Year and a half? Because it's like Well You know?
[00:08:56] Duuude-Ron :
But And, you know, you having a water cutoff with between the house and the city cutoff. Everything that and now you get burnt breakers, one for your minor stuff, one for your big electrical in 2 different locations.
[00:09:20] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. See now build a house like that. You see there, I don't know because, well, apparently down here, that's how they build them because this is what this guy told me. He said he said he said the big breakers are outside. The little breakers are on the inside. And I'm like, I ain't never seen those shit like that, but okay. You know, because they just, you know, my house, everything was in one box right there. Big breakers, little breakers. I didn't separate shit. Well, except each plug, but either way, you know, you, you know, everything was there, but yeah, it just, yeah, it just funny that that, you know, but I am now I am now 100%, total use turned on.
That doesn't sound right. Does it? That just took a second for Ford all to ruminate through, you know. It it it takes a second to be for it to percolate up and then you're like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. As
[00:10:32] Duuude-Ron :
everybody else as everybody else is rolling their fucking eyes going.
[00:10:38] Bryan Goodwin:
What in the ham sandwich is he talking about?
[00:10:41] Rich Chelson:
He didn't even say that, did he?
[00:10:44] Duuude-Ron :
He went from evil heart to dumbass to smart and quickly changed tracks to dumbass again.
[00:10:53] Rich Chelson:
I'm telling you a week and a half. This has been my week and a half, man. But no, you see when when I thought I I was gonna have to buy a hot water heater, I was, I was fighting. It was like, it was like, do I wanna pay somebody to put it in? Because I really didn't wanna fucking do it. Right. Even though I've got all the fucking tools and believe me, I've got all my tools here now. Okay. So, I mean, yeah, I can do anything I need to. And I was like, nah, fuck it. I'll just save the money. I'll just, I'll just go get the bitch myself and I'll I'll fucking holler in here. I'll swap it out. It won't take me 45 minutes, you know?
[00:11:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. And,
[00:11:41] Rich Chelson:
and then so I went and bought the trailer and come to find out I didn't need to buy the hot water heater, but all isn't lost because that trailer actually saved me an extra $400 because I was gonna pay a guy $400 to come get my stuff out of storage and bring it to my house and put it in my house. I don't have to do that.
[00:12:12] Duuude-Ron :
You see what I mean? You have all the stuff out of the storage. Do you have all the stuff out of the storage, though?
[00:12:19] Rich Chelson:
No. About half.
[00:12:21] Duuude-Ron :
That was 50. Yeah. But, you know, you are going to have to have that trailer to go buy a mower now that you bought a fucking football field
[00:12:35] Rich Chelson:
in the backyard. Well, you see you see and that's that's something else I was thinking too because it's like it's like I've got to buy a mower. So I've got to be able to go get it and bring it back. So it's another reason why I bought it. I mean, there was, there was a few different forces here at play trying to figure out if I wanted to buy this trailer or not. I mean, no, I didn't want to, you know, but it's like, fuck. It's already in my eyes. It's freaking already paid for itself,
[00:13:08] Bryan Goodwin:
you know? But
[00:13:11] Rich Chelson:
yeah, I don't know. It just, but yeah, probably next month though. I'll go buy a mower.
[00:13:21] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm gonna buy a zero turn. I was gonna say, get her to get her, get a ride in mower. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Fuck. No. I ain't pushing shit, dude. No. Hell no. Uh-huh. Hey. Hey. I still have a push mower. That's the reason why I don't do my lawn except once a month.
[00:13:38] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You'd be pushing you'd be pushing a fucking heart attack. Right? Right. Pushing up daisies around.
[00:13:45] Rich Chelson:
1 or the other. But yeah. No. It you see, though, the thing is, though, I want a zero turn. I mean, I've ran a few zero turns. I love the hell out of them. But, and the one I had at my house up north had the regular steering wheel, which, I mean, it was a good mower. You know? I bought it brand new and everything like that. I mean, it like, like I said, it was a good mower, but I was like, no, I want a zero turn. And and I can find a good, zero turn used for about, 800, 750, 800, maybe a grand. I'm gonna try and stay south of a grand. You know?
Neither they're they're still fucking outrageous.
[00:14:37] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. They're 32,000.
[00:14:40] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. That's starting 35 to 4000,
[00:14:43] Rich Chelson:
some Yeah. Depends on who it is. At Lowe's up here, they've got 0 turns. Their lowest is 3,599. Their highest is 7,599.
[00:14:56] Duuude-Ron :
Well, shit. You need to get the one that says 70 it's 7995. Does it come with AC?
[00:15:02] Rich Chelson:
No. It doesn't come with AC.
[00:15:04] Duuude-Ron :
It does not come with AC. It's better for that damn price. Right. It's got a vibrating
[00:15:09] Bryan Goodwin:
seat. Okay. Well, don't they all? Technically, yeah.
[00:15:16] Duuude-Ron :
I mean I mean, that's that's a given right there, the a vibrating seat. You don't put any just as long as you don't put anything pointed on the seat.
[00:15:27] Rich Chelson:
That would not feel good. Just saying. That would not didn't know. No. Yeah. No. But so, yeah. I don't know. I'm I'm I'm looking at, I mean, honestly, the neighbor across the street mowed my yard just before I moved in. I didn't know he did it till he told me, you know, but, and yeah, my grass hasn't grown at all. So it's like, I've got a couple weeks yet. It's supposed to rain this next week, though.
[00:16:05] Duuude-Ron :
Well, shit. With all the humidity you have, Darren, you should have an ice cream grab.
[00:16:09] Rich Chelson:
Oh, fuck no. It's brown, dude.
[00:16:13] Bryan Goodwin:
Kinda just like mine. He doesn't he doesn't have Bermuda. He's got he's got that he's got that fancy schmancy Saint Augustine.
[00:16:21] Rich Chelson:
Oh, I don't know what fucking kind I got.
[00:16:25] Bryan Goodwin:
I got grass, dude. I got brown grass, man.
[00:16:29] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I'm right. I got I got brown grass, a little bit of green here and there and dirt.
[00:16:39] Duuude-Ron :
Underneath the trees. I'm sure that's the green grass because it's in the shade.
[00:16:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Most of it is because, yeah, I've got well, I've got trees all over this freaking yard. Oh, did I tell y'all I got a pecan tree?
[00:16:57] Duuude-Ron :
You got what?
[00:16:58] Rich Chelson:
I got a pecan tree. Come pecan.
[00:17:02] Bryan Goodwin:
He's gonna be making pecan pies as it come Thanksgiving.
[00:17:05] Rich Chelson:
My god.
[00:17:06] Duuude-Ron :
Stuffeding.
[00:17:08] Rich Chelson:
I'm gonna be making pecan pies before Thanksgiving. And check this out. I've got, I've got one tree on my lot and on this empty lot next to me, and I don't know who owns this empty lot. There's 3 more pecan trees right in a row.
[00:17:30] Duuude-Ron :
Well, I'm sure if you go pick pecans, they're not gonna come and arrest you.
[00:17:34] Bryan Goodwin:
I was gonna say, just get yourself one of them pecan rollers and just roll around. You know?
[00:17:39] Rich Chelson:
You know, that's exactly what I was thinking. I roll around and just dump them all in a bag and then I'll freaking sit there and dig out the pecans and, oh, hell yeah. Life will be good, man.
[00:17:52] Bryan Goodwin:
So It's gonna have he's gonna have a deep freezer for deer meat and he's gonna have another one for ponds.
[00:17:59] Rich Chelson:
You know? Damn it, Brian. I hadn't even thought about a deep freezer yet, man.
[00:18:06] Duuude-Ron :
You're killing me, hoes. I thought you had one. I need it for all those crabs.
[00:18:14] Rich Chelson:
No. I no. I didn't have a deep freeze.
[00:18:17] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Well, I would recommend the 102 cubic inch, if not more. Or not a cubic inch. Cubic cubic foot. You want you want the big fucker. So so Oh, fuck. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. You walk in freezer. Hell, just go talk to one of them industrial folks.
[00:18:36] Rich Chelson:
I got the room on the back of the house. Hell, yeah. Walk in freezer.
[00:18:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Neighbors might not like all the cooling fans.
[00:18:46] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. No. The, I'll probably get a, a 6 foot chest type deep freeze because that'll take a minute to fill up. But see, I can I can get a whole hog, whole cow, half cow, you know? Yeah. So, I mean, I'll just I'll just freaking do that. And all those smoked sausage, I freaking want, man. I mean, they've got like, I don't know, 10, 15 different companies down here that they sell smoked sausage.
[00:19:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. You know? And every every single one of them's got their own version of Kanuka. So Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[00:19:30] Rich Chelson:
In fact, I've got, say, say, £2 of it in my freezer right now. Okay. Oh, I love that shit, dude. He discovered Kanaka. I was like, yeah. Oh my god. I love that shit. I'll sit there, cut it up, cook it up. I I just eat it right there. I don't give a damn. Okay. Oh, yeah. Kinda
[00:19:53] Bryan Goodwin:
the way I am with Andouille. So
[00:19:56] Rich Chelson:
Oh, man. Andouille? What? Yeah.
[00:19:59] Bryan Goodwin:
What? Andouille. Cajun sausage. Oh, yeah. It's good shit, dude. That's that's the sausage used for gumbo and and and jambalaya. So
[00:20:10] Rich Chelson:
I just eat a plain. You can eat a plain, dude.
[00:20:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[00:20:16] Duuude-Ron :
Not without having a fire come out of my asshole. Oh, it's not that hot. Oh, come on. And Dewey is not that bad.
[00:20:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Let me guess. You think Big Red's too hot? Big Red chewing gum. No? No? No? Okay. Then you'll you'll be okay with with Yeah. With I'm Dewey.
[00:20:36] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Oh, okay.
[00:20:38] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. And, something else I like getting, which I need to get some more of because I don't have any of is, is, Boudin. Oh, I I love some Boudin, dude. I've gotta wait until I get
[00:20:53] Bryan Goodwin:
further down into the south and retry some Boudin because I first time I ever had bedan, I didn't know what, I knew it was a sausage, but I didn't know what type of sausage it was.
[00:21:06] Rich Chelson:
Well, it's it's it's a but you see, it's it's a sausage, but it's not a sausage because it's it's got sausage and stuff in it, but it's got rice and, you know, other stuff in it. And you would basically steam it
[00:21:24] Bryan Goodwin:
when you cook it. Well, yeah. And that's, that's big, one of the big problems because we saw it, and it was like, yeah. You know, we're always up for trying different flavors of sausage and and beef product or pork products. So I was like, yeah. Sure. Let's try this. And I grabbed it and we thawed it out and we slapped it on the grill and grilled it up and got into it and was like, there's a lot of fucking organ meat in this shit. God, that is nasty. Yeah. It is. Holy crap. That is horrible. That is just nothing but organ meat. There's gotta be a little bit there's a little bit of liver, and I think a heart tasting here. This is bad. And Yeah. It's a statement. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. What the hell is this?
That right. It was like,
[00:22:08] Duuude-Ron :
ah. Snow. I know. I I've had I've had it once, and, no, I didn't like it too very much.
[00:22:14] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wow. See, they've got see, it down here. I mean, I can find a gas station down here and not Oh, yeah. No. That's Certainly. Yeah. In Louisiana.
[00:22:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I was down in Louisiana over in, New Iberia. The gas station the truck, little truck stop that we were at, all the sandstone guys were, parked at. I mean, they had, Boudin there, and I just it was after I had already tried, had tried Boudin in that disaster. And so I was like, no. We're not doing that. I I mean, it's gotta be about as bad as as chicken hearts and gizzards. You know? It's just may maybe it's an acquired taste, but it's in a taste I'm not willing to acquire.
[00:22:57] Rich Chelson:
So now I Well
[00:22:59] Duuude-Ron :
They might have a gas station sushi. Yeah.
[00:23:04] Rich Chelson:
I I will not eat sushi from a gas station. Ain't no way. I mean, I, I don't, I don't normally go out and seek sushi. I've had sushi and it's okay. It's good. But it's, it's not on my top ten list. I mean, shoot. The freaking Chinese buffet I go to, that's just right literally right down the road from me. I love that place. They got sushi, but I don't eat their, sushi. They got mud bugs on on the on the menu. They got crabs. Fuck. Yeah, man. They got they got peel and eat shrimp. They got popcorn shrimp. They got all kinds of shrimp. And, you know, I'm telling you, man.
[00:23:49] Bryan Goodwin:
As Shrimp's Doughboys. Shrimp. Shrimp dippingbo. Dude, I live I
[00:23:56] Rich Chelson:
live I live like a half mile away from Bozos where I am. Where I am, Mac. Discovered the joys
[00:24:05] Bryan Goodwin:
and and and excitements that come associated with it. Shrimp po'boy. Yes, sir. I said remember the first time he died. Oh my god. I had a po'boy for the first time. Oh my god. That was that was a place of my first shrimp po'boy. And and
[00:24:23] Rich Chelson:
and who's on special? I got a 6 inch po'boy with a with a, cup of, seafood gumbo for 7.99. Oh my god. Oh, I turned this shit up. I loved it. He was gonna have a mess in his pants, so he was so excited for it. It was terrible. It was, man. Oh, it was great, man. God damn. I I, yeah, I love. And, and you see, see there at Bozo's, I can go to Bozo's. I can get a pound of steamed shrimp, includes taters, corn, and and that sausage. However you say the name of that sausage.
[00:25:06] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. Oh, Kanaka?
[00:25:07] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That one. Oh, okay. I can get that for, like, $10. Steamed already for me. Steamed already. All done. All I gotta do is take it home and eat it. And then then, of course, I've got other ones with, like, snow crab legs and shrimp and sausage and and and, corn and taters. I mean, and I'm less than a half mile from it.
[00:25:42] Bryan Goodwin:
So it's that's your Thursday afternoon meal.
[00:25:46] Rich Chelson:
So, you know, I didn't, I might have to make it a Friday afternoon meal.
[00:25:52] Bryan Goodwin:
There you go.
[00:25:54] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah. So, yeah, no, I just, yeah, I just, I don't know. I I mean, I I just love it down here. It's just a lot of fun. And I haven't I haven't even gone down to the beach yet. I've been so busy.
[00:26:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Been the summertime, man. That's all all the girls are in the bikinis, so you gotta get there before before the first cold front hits or at least the college kicks up.
[00:26:28] Rich Chelson:
I will. Don't worry. I will. I'll get there. I've got, I've got probably maybe another week before I have the house back all all pretty again. And then, and then I'll still have things to, you know, straighten out and all like that. But it'll be it. The house will be at least presentable. Okay. Because right now it's not presentable. I I'm serious. And I love my kitchen table. Oh my God. Cause I can, I've finally, I got something to put shit on and I got it full of clothes that I've washed and folded. And I got, papers and books and, and just stuff scattered that I haven't found a place for yet.
[00:27:26] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay.
[00:27:29] Unknown:
So now and
[00:27:30] Bryan Goodwin:
the the only problem with having go ahead, Brock. What are you doing, slacker?
[00:27:35] Duuude-Ron :
Damn. You've been in the house for a week and a half now, and you what the fuck? Dude. Oh, you know what? I've been in my house now for 15 years. If I sent you pictures of my garage, you would be like, when you go to fucking unpack that and get rid of that shit?
[00:27:55] Rich Chelson:
Well, you see, this is why this is why it's taking so long because I'm not keeping everything that I have because a lot of the shit is old and trash or it's just old and and I haven't used it in 10 years, so it's gone. Right.
[00:28:14] Duuude-Ron :
But the moment you fucking get rid of it, you're gonna say, goddamn it. I fucking need that. Right. You know, that's like the that's like the 8 jack stands I have in my garage someplace. As soon as I tell them to get rid of them, then I'm gonna go, motherfucker, I'm gonna need those goddamn jack stands. What the hell?
[00:28:35] Rich Chelson:
What are you gonna say, Brian?
[00:28:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Yep. And I didn't have my ear properly plugged to triple valve.
[00:28:45] Rich Chelson:
Oh, shit.
[00:28:47] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Just went bloop bloop. And so wasn't important. So
[00:28:54] Duuude-Ron :
but And you wouldn't you'd never have your head on the pillow.
[00:28:57] Bryan Goodwin:
I know. Now I know. So it's just it it does that, though.
[00:29:01] Rich Chelson:
Well, at least least if you had your head on the pillow and it dribbled out, you could
[00:29:07] Bryan Goodwin:
you you had after the At least wonder what the hell I'm laying, man. It's like, goddamn. What the hell? Oh, man. That's that thought from last night.
[00:29:16] Rich Chelson:
So That could go so many different ways. So many different ways. Oh, damn.
[00:29:25] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. It can go south real quick.
[00:29:29] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I think it made it halfway.
[00:29:34] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And if everybody is thinking the same thing we're thinking, it's like, the only the only word I can add into that is damn.
[00:29:45] Rich Chelson:
I will say I will say that the Jeep is naked.
[00:29:51] Duuude-Ron :
My Jeep has not had the fucking doors off. I don't think I've taken the doors off at all this calendar year.
[00:30:03] Rich Chelson:
Dude, what's up, man?
[00:30:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Busy going to work and back. Hadn't had an excuse to.
[00:30:09] Duuude-Ron :
That's right. Go to work, come home. It's not like I'm gonna fucking be driving around in goddamn heat without the fucking doors on that that Turn the AC on. What the fuck do you think I do? Yeah. Okay. They don't I'm gonna need the hose just to air condition the air condition my nuts.
[00:30:31] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, get a dryer hose, hook it up to your HVAC on your Jeep and just, tape it to your nuts, man.
[00:30:41] Bryan Goodwin:
There you go. You're good. Oh, that's always good until it's time that he has to hop out and he's in a hurry and all of a sudden he hangs himself up.
[00:30:51] Rich Chelson:
I would love to see it. Or hey. What? Wait.
[00:30:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Yo. Hey. That's still taped. That's duct tape, man. I better get that stuff off.
[00:30:59] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yeah. That's like that hose that you had in the Humvee that you'd, up on the driver's side that you'd take off from the the left heater vent and, you know, disassemble that so you had a nice fucking, long hose to, you know, put the heater to.
[00:31:23] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:31:25] Duuude-Ron :
Because ain't that they ain't one don't ain't one military home. They got air conditioner. That's for damn sure. No. No. And and and the heater is, barely there. Yeah. You're right. Actually, now they're well, it's an external air conditioning unit, but all the, deployment Humvees have air conditioning in them. Oh, okay. Alright. So They put them on the back of the turtle cells. Okay. Alright. They well, they kinda you know, like, they have the air conditioners on the top of RVs.
[00:32:01] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:32:03] Duuude-Ron :
They have a military one that they put on the back door of the turtle shells.
[00:32:10] Rich Chelson:
Okay.
[00:32:11] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:32:12] Bryan Goodwin:
And the only thing that kept coming to my mind while you're say while you're say saying that was that they they went off and just ghettoized it and just got, like, a window unit and just shoved it into the back window there. They've they've done that too. I've seen it. They've done that. I bet they have. That would not surprise me at all that someone has gone off and and done that to it
[00:32:32] Duuude-Ron :
to the Humvees. So When they they did that when they up armored the Humvees and put that freaking 3 quarter inch freaking bulletproof glass. Yeah. And all the arm in in the, Humvees. Yeah. That's when they they put the air air conditioning in them.
[00:32:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Nah. Okay. Okay.
[00:32:53] Rich Chelson:
So But, see, the thing is on Facebook, there's a there's a, say, it's a 2004, military Humvee for sale for 105.
[00:33:06] Duuude-Ron :
Only 105?
[00:33:08] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Only 105, dude.
[00:33:10] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I wouldn't freaking own a military Humvee.
[00:33:13] Rich Chelson:
Why? I loved them.
[00:33:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I fucking No one would be able to start them. So they won't they're theft proof. I mean, I could, but no, seriously, seriously
[00:33:25] Rich Chelson:
from a freaking, from a freaking, mechanics point of view, I loved a fucking on V because the brakes, literally you could change both brakes, the left and right brake at the same time in 5 minutes.
[00:33:44] Duuude-Ron :
Seriously. Well, yeah. And every corner was interchangeable. You know, you could put the passenger front on the driver rear and swap them. You know? Yeah. That's the way that you know them, but I I would never own a freaking home beat. See, I would. See, I would. Because because you see the motors was a Chevy 379
[00:34:08] Rich Chelson:
truck diesel motor. Very simple fuck to fucking work on.
[00:34:14] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah.
[00:34:15] Rich Chelson:
I mean, very simple to work on. And I mean, it just, it was yeah. It was I mean, I loved it. I love well, I loved driving them and and I loved working on them as well, especially if they had to run flats. Now I hated fucking with the run flat. So Oh, boy. Didn't motherfucker go fuck with you.
[00:34:38] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, hell yeah.
[00:34:41] Rich Chelson:
Because because you see, Brian, what it is is you've got an aluminum rim, okay, that is on the inside of the tire and is bolted at at the top and the bottom. K. And they're, like, 14 or 15 millimeter if I remember right. And the thing is, though, you get one started trying to get the bottom one in and and get it started. Okay. That was your whole problem right there because the spacing was just that so tight. Right. That that it had to be just perfect. Otherwise, it wasn't going together.
[00:35:22] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. The first the first half of that run flat, you could put it in the top area, 10 seconds. The second half, 10 hours.
[00:35:33] Rich Chelson:
Yep. It was yeah. It was and and that was that was the only drawback. And even though even though the run flats, you know, when the tire lost air, the the whole, Humvee would go on that run flat and still run. Right. Yeah. But but when he got to the other end, it was normally chewed up. So you needed another one plus the tire, and then you had to put all that shit back together again. That was a bitch. I ain't gonna lie.
[00:36:08] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Changing a tire was a 4 hour fucking ordeal.
[00:36:12] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It was. That was one tire. No. Yes. That was one tire. Tire.
[00:36:17] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know, it took 4 to 5 hour.
[00:36:21] Bryan Goodwin:
And I don't know.
[00:36:22] Rich Chelson:
Took you 2 days to change all 4.
[00:36:26] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[00:36:27] Bryan Goodwin:
So but Government efficiency in action.
[00:36:30] Rich Chelson:
By God.
[00:36:32] Duuude-Ron :
And that was with 3 people.
[00:36:37] Rich Chelson:
And that's why we got paid the big bucks.
[00:36:40] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Big fucking money. Oh, yeah. Right. Right. Big money.
[00:36:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. That E4 salary. It was something else. Wasn't it? Oh, no. Oh my god.
[00:36:57] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. E4. Yeah. We did. Yeah. We didn't make much money out of the as E4.
[00:37:01] Duuude-Ron :
Nope. Well, shit. E7 here made fucking much money.
[00:37:07] Rich Chelson:
Well, you made me 4. I was gonna say, you made my horn e 4.
[00:37:12] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Let let me rephrase that. An e 4 well, depends on if they're married or not, was able to retain more of their money.
[00:37:26] Rich Chelson:
How you figure?
[00:37:30] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Did you ever live off post when you were in the military, or you in the barracks?
[00:37:36] Rich Chelson:
I was in the barracks, dude. Okay. I was smart.
[00:37:41] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Well, I was in the barracks too and and up until I was, you know, got married. I was in need for it, but, yeah, you don't have to pay rent. Yeah. You don't have to pay for food.
[00:37:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah, but you gotta go pay for the strippers. Well, you have a beer.
[00:38:00] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. A beer? Yeah. Yeah. They didn't And Mountain Dew, man. And and come to I was all jacked up on Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew and cigarettes. Come on. And by God.
[00:38:10] Duuude-Ron :
And come to think of it, I didn't have any fucking money while I lived in the barracks either.
[00:38:15] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Hey.
[00:38:17] Rich Chelson:
Hey. Check this out. Check this out. 1988. If I remember right, it was 88 when I made my E 4. Right. Maybe, maybe the latter part of 80. I can't remember. But in 88, we're less than 2 years in and E 4 made $830.40 a month. If, if they were over 3 years, they made $928.20 a month. Yeah. So, so, yeah.
[00:38:53] Bryan Goodwin:
But that was also what you're saying, 80 what? 88. 88. Okay. So you can remember.
[00:39:00] Duuude-Ron :
And and how much was it? 9th, 928 a month?
[00:39:03] Rich Chelson:
No. No. With with a less than 2 years under your belt or yeah. It's 830, 40. If it's over 3 years of service, it was 92820.
[00:39:17] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. So we'll go with 928. So you divide 928 by 4. That's the number of weeks, roughly. Right. Divided by 4 equals $232. So when you are running easily 10 hour days
[00:39:41] Rich Chelson:
easily.
[00:39:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Maybe 12 hour days. So we'll divide that amount divide that amount by 10 out 50 hours by 50 hours Yeah. Equals
[00:39:57] Rich Chelson:
$4.64 an hour.
[00:40:01] Duuude-Ron :
An hour.
[00:40:02] Rich Chelson:
An hour.
[00:40:04] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Yep.
[00:40:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Actually, you wanna spread spread that out. And if you're underway, then you got paid even less because, you know, then you're then you're actually on duty 24 hours a day. So Oh shit.
[00:40:16] Duuude-Ron :
Well and if you wanna look at it realistically, yeah, you're on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. So but just yeah. $4 and pathetic, isn't it? $4.64 a fucking hour.
[00:40:33] Rich Chelson:
Well, I mean, we signed up for it, dude.
[00:40:37] Duuude-Ron :
I know we did. I didn't say I was fucking intelligent. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. So I I got to add a $110 a month for BAQ?
[00:40:55] Rich Chelson:
Oh, junk. Okay.
[00:40:57] Duuude-Ron :
So so I was making them $4.72 an hour.
[00:41:04] Rich Chelson:
Something like that.
[00:41:07] Bryan Goodwin:
Man, we were fucking stupid. Yeah. You were just about the minimum wage.
[00:41:15] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Minimum wage.
[00:41:17] Duuude-Ron :
No. Fucking minimum wage back then was, what, 7 something, wasn't it? No. It was
[00:41:23] Bryan Goodwin:
No. It was it was it was 5 a quarter it was 5 a quarter in in, in 93, 94, 95 because I was often paid minimum wage. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'll tell you. Actually, minimum That's a fun fact. It was. Minimum wage in 1988
[00:41:41] Rich Chelson:
was $3.35
[00:41:43] Bryan Goodwin:
an hour. In 89 you got paid more than minimum.
[00:41:46] Rich Chelson:
In in 89, it was 3.75.90. It was 4.15. And in 91, it was $4.55 an hour. Really? Yes, sir. That is from congress.gov.
[00:42:04] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The congress Yeah. You're looking at a lie, do you? Yeah. You're looking at an absolute reputable fucking website there.
[00:42:13] Rich Chelson:
Right. But yeah. No. I mean I mean, think about it. You know, I okay. Look. Take take 9 1990. 34 years ago, the minimum wage was $4.15 an hour.
[00:42:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. And now it's over it is getting way up there now. It's still so you know what? It's like 7, 8 dollars.
[00:42:39] Duuude-Ron :
No. Back then, how much was the fucking how much was the house that you just bought last week back then?
[00:42:49] Rich Chelson:
Oh, probably 50,000 40, 50,000
[00:42:52] Bryan Goodwin:
maybe. Probably closer to 30.
[00:42:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Probably. That'd be a big
[00:42:57] Rich Chelson:
okay. Okay. Hang on. Federal minimum wage Okay. Federal. I'm not talking about individual states because states have done their own Washington's
[00:43:11] Bryan Goodwin:
is at $15 an hour. No wonder 101 works.
[00:43:15] Rich Chelson:
Well, that's like Alaska and Arizona. Those are higher, but federal minimum wage is still at $7.25.
[00:43:22] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And it was single digit. So
[00:43:25] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. So, but yeah. Yeah. Individual states have changed their rates.
[00:43:32] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm. But,
[00:43:33] Rich Chelson:
but, yeah, feds, no.
[00:43:38] Duuude-Ron :
And at the cost of living, who the fuck can do anything at $7.25 an hour
[00:43:44] Rich Chelson:
After
[00:43:46] Duuude-Ron :
nothing. Nothing. Now there's Nothing. Or yeah. 7.25 minus income tax, minus Social Security, minus whatever that other fucking one is. Medicare? There you go. Minus your fucking medical insurance.
[00:44:06] Rich Chelson:
Yep. I mean, you've got nothing left. And and, I mean, so
[00:44:11] Bryan Goodwin:
so And but y'all are also trying to say who as an adult would work at at that? And, no, an adult shouldn't be working at $7 and whatever, you know, 7 and almost $8 an hour.
[00:44:29] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You're right.
[00:44:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Adults should be making it should be providing enough value that they should be looking down on McDonald's.
[00:44:41] Rich Chelson:
Right. And the bad thing is fuck for McDonald's. Fuck if McDonald's
[00:44:45] Bryan Goodwin:
pays more less than that. $18 an hour. Yeah. Yeah. And and,
[00:44:50] Rich Chelson:
a lot of your factories are still 12 and 13 to 15.
[00:44:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And the problem with the problems that yeah. And the problem with all that is is that, yeah, they you don't you don't have any teenagers now who well, one, teenagers don't really wanna work these days, which, I mean, I didn't really wanna work whenever I was a, you know, a teenager either. I would've I wanted to sit around and go go hang out at pool all all summer long. Right. Wasn't allowed to. I'm I'm basically told if I wanna be able to go anywhere, I've gotta make I've gotta make enough money to where I could pay for the gas.
[00:45:25] Rich Chelson:
Right. But
[00:45:27] Bryan Goodwin:
it was yeah. But at the same time, minimum wage was good for that for that level. That I mean, teenage teenagers do not provide any value. They are entry level positions. Well, okay. There are the burger flippers, the the the friend who cooks
[00:45:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh, well, hold on. The cashier. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on before you get all all all worked up here a second. Oh, come on. I was about to shift. Now I gotta yeah. No. You see, the thing is when when, when we were growing up, okay. We were always taught, you know, when you're old enough, go out and get a job. Even if it flipped, even if it's flipping burgers, because it'll teach you a work ethic and all like this. And that's what we did. And then as time went on and everybody started basically coddling their children, oh no, you, oh no, little Johnny, you don't have to do that. You can sit home and play with yourself. It's okay.
You know, shit like that. And it's just gotten worse ever since then. And nowadays kids and, and I'm not knocking on them really, but kinda am in a way, because nowadays they're just like, well, that's just not worth my time. You don't know what, what, what time is. You don't know what worth is. I mean, y'all value a a viral TikTok.
[00:47:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, that's that's that's it. Exactly. They they go they see and go, ah, I can go I can do YouTube and make more money than I can over at McDonald's, except that you can't. Well because you know how long it took for mister beast to finally get around and start making some decent money?
[00:47:20] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. It took a long ass time.
[00:47:23] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. He was working on he was cranking out video after video after video after video feeding that algorithm for damn near 10 years.
[00:47:33] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:47:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Before YouTube goes, hey, I think he's doing pretty good and starts showing him a lot more.
[00:47:40] Rich Chelson:
Right. Oh, and say the thing is though, I would I would like I would like one of these young people out here today that that is trying the YouTube thing or the TikTok thing or the periscope or, or what, whatever platform they're freaking using.
[00:47:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay? Periscope. Good god. This one's
[00:48:02] Rich Chelson:
been gone for 5 years. If not longer. I didn't know that. See? I didn't know that. But but I would like, I would like one of these young people who's doing this. And if you're making any money, reach out to us and let us know just how much money are you making. I mean, I'm, I am curious.
[00:48:25] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Well, I can, the average, the average kid, if they, if they get like a 1,000 followers, all right, say they hit that 1,000 followers. They still are, don't have enough. Now you can't it if on, like, on TikTok, it's a little easier, but it really also depends on what you're doing.
[00:48:50] Rich Chelson:
Well, and say this thing in your content. Hey, you know, it's there there is so many factors involved before you ever get 1 penny or even a half a penny. Oh, yeah. That, that, that I'm sorry, but these young people are not gonna be able to do it. So you just might as well suck it up, go to McDonald's, Burger King, KFC, or whatnot, get your feet wet, get in the door, get your feet wet, and then start growing up.
[00:49:21] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But but my Unless you make a
[00:49:24] Duuude-Ron :
Unless you make a hell of a statement like, hawk tuba.
[00:49:29] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah.
[00:49:31] Bryan Goodwin:
The hawk tuba girl. You know what I mean? But the hot tuba girl was what? 1 out of I forget what they say. There's something how many?
[00:49:42] Rich Chelson:
Well, there's 380,000,000 Americans, and there's, like, over 88,000,000,000
[00:49:48] Bryan Goodwin:
people in the world. Well, no. But but, I mean, how many? Well, I was gonna I'm trying to remember. It's been a while since I've read it, so it's probably has changed. But how many videos how many minutes worth of video is uploaded to YouTube in an hour. It's like some it it's like 2,000,000 2,000,000 minutes worth of video is is uploaded every hour to to something something astronomical like that. It may not be quite that much. It may only be, like, 2,000 hours. But still, her 2000 hours is a lot of freaking hours.
[00:50:27] Rich Chelson:
I'm gonna find out.
[00:50:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Okay. Because because Yeah. It but that was that was she the haptua girl was 3 seconds out of how the million, you know, posts are going up every every minute of yeah.
[00:50:48] Rich Chelson:
Oh my god.
[00:50:51] Bryan Goodwin:
Hang on a second. Right. Now that's either a whole lot or I I can grossly overestimate it. It's like 75 videos an hour. Okay. Hang on here. I I,
[00:51:03] Rich Chelson:
no, I freaking need to, had to read this a little bit. 3,700,000 new videos are uploaded to YouTube every day. That's around 271,330 hours. And that's based on an average length of 4.4 minutes. So Yeah. Let's take the 271330.
[00:51:28] Bryan Goodwin:
That's in 24 hours. For math, so you're gonna have to do this too.
[00:51:32] Rich Chelson:
Okay. That's in 24 hours. So we have to divide it by 24
[00:51:38] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:51:39] Rich Chelson:
To get it for the hour. 11,305.41 minutes an hour.
[00:51:47] Bryan Goodwin:
That's a few. And she put out like, and that bit whole video viral video of Oct 12 girl was like 3 seconds.
[00:51:56] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[00:51:58] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Pretty much. So the odds of you becoming uber popular are, yeah, next to 0.
[00:52:08] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. Shit. Well, you got probably about the same amount of odds when you fucking play in the
[00:52:14] Rich Chelson:
lottery. Well, that's about true.
[00:52:16] Bryan Goodwin:
But at the same time, I mean, we I I've I've tried I tried, tried doing, like, the, content marketing, where I've just I've put up posts and I would use, use AdSense and see if I get any get any type of money. I made 2¢ off off of that. And you have to make a $100 before before Google will go, oh, okay. Well, here's some money for you.
[00:52:47] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I know. I remember. I
[00:52:49] Duuude-Ron :
But you think if I was the one that went, oh, you got a harq two on that thing, You think it would have went viral?
[00:52:58] Bryan Goodwin:
With it being you? Yeah.
[00:53:02] Rich Chelson:
No. The thing is years ago, when I first started my YouTube channel, I was still driving truck. Right. Okay. And, and I had had my YouTube channel for like 5 years, I think 4 or 5 years. Fucking YouTube sends me a, a letter. Hey, you made a $100. Where should we send the money? And I thought, yeah, it's fucking bullshit. There ain't no way. Sure. I told him, I said, send it here. They fucking cut me a check and sent me a check for a $100. And I die. I was like, oh my god.
[00:53:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I got a $103. Yeah. And, yeah, if you if you got a you if you got a of course, at the same time back when that was happening, you could just you could be you're one of those who could just monetize. Yes. And then YouTube just said, oh, well, we're gonna change that now. You've gotta have, what is it, like, 2,000 followers and have 12,000,
[00:54:04] Rich Chelson:
viewing hours of Yeah. No. No. I was pissed. Monetize? Because, like, see, okay. Check this out. Check this out. Because, I still had videos that were being monetized. Okay. Even all the way up to that point. And as soon as that algorithm changed, that cut, I mean, I wasn't making no money on it anyway. Okay. Right. Yeah. But that, that just shut everything down. Everything down. And, and because I only had like a 130 subscriber, a 150 subscribers. Right. And I, you know, I didn't have a lot of watch time or anything like that, but you know, my videos were being watched here and there and I was making a few pennies, here and there.
[00:54:51] Bryan Goodwin:
And,
[00:54:53] Rich Chelson:
yeah, I was pissed. I'm like, you sons of bitches. I was, I was here before y'all got fucking big, you know? Right. Yeah. And there was, there was actually, quite a few of us truck drivers on YouTube. Oh yeah. Doing videos. I mean, we, we freaking had our own, had our own, little community. No shit. I knew probably, I don't know, 15, 20 of them and everything and fucking, yeah. YouTube changed that fucking algorithm. And I was like, you sons of bitches. And after that, I just I was like, well, fuck. It's not even worth it now.
[00:55:36] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? And No. No. Normally, it's not. But at the same time, I mean, it did, it did it what, I mean, it helped YouTube because now all of a sudden it meant that everybody was trying a little bit harder to get to to get that magic number that would get, allowed to be be monetized. And you then yeah. You've got people who do. They do the hustle, and they crank out and put out 2 videos a day every single day. Right. And that's I mean, talk about working at working for a cruel master because if you let up on one day, you're not you're not at the top of the list anymore. You're, like, down on the 4th, 5th page.
[00:56:19] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[00:56:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Just because you slowed down. And it's like, I don't need to take a break. No. Bitch, yeah. Google the the the Google Overlord's like, oh, no. You can't you're not here to take a break. You're here to make content so that we can make money.
[00:56:35] Rich Chelson:
That's exactly right.
[00:56:37] Bryan Goodwin:
And that's that's sad that the kids think that that's the best way to make money. And because they see I mean, what was it, about 5, 6 years ago, there was a there was a, like, a 5 year old that was making a $1,000,000 a day Oh, yeah. There's doing unboxings Yeah. And toy reviews?
[00:56:58] Rich Chelson:
Yep. Yeah. His, yeah, his parents, you know, you know, agreed to let him do it and he was doing it. And I mean, kid was making bank.
[00:57:10] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[00:57:10] Rich Chelson:
You know, he was making bank. And I mean, that's, I mean, that's fine. You know, because the parents were right there, you know, making sure everything was right. No. And that's fine. I don't I don't I don't I don't have a problem with none of that. What I have a problem No. We don't have a problem with any of that. But then you also had the parents
[00:57:29] Bryan Goodwin:
where you had, like, the moms who were who were making their getting their their young girl to do gymnastics on in front of the tell in front of the camera and stuff. Right. And there were those who were it wasn't to attract other young little kids. It was to attract the El Cripos. And Yeah. That's where you're going, no. No. Sorry. That's that's all. That's a bad use of the technology. And, no, mom, you should stop exploiting your daughter.
[00:58:01] Rich Chelson:
You know? No. I agree. But and this is my opinion and my opinion only. And if you have a problem with it, email rchelson@gmaildot com, and I'll be happy to discuss my opinion with you. But, but if, if, if you're a mother and you feel you have to exploit your daughter like that, that just means you're upset because you couldn't do it when you were a kid. And that is fucking wrong.
[00:58:34] Bryan Goodwin:
That is the that is very that's the main reason why I think a lot a lot of the, the women, do that. This is one reason why I think a lot of women who put their kids into into dance competitions. I think that's the reason why they do that. It's because they want to live vicariously through their little 5, 6, 7 year old girl. And
[00:58:58] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know you know, the thing is and and that's fine as long as, you know, as long as it's not it's not a it's not an obsession. In other words, the kid wants to learn dance and and is not forced, whether it's a boy or a girl. Okay?
[00:59:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Because that's that's the I mean, you look and see how, what was that damn it was a Oh, yeah. Show mom's. It was what was that damn well, there's Dance Moms, but there was one on, on Netflix, and everybody lost their shit about it. It was about it was about a young girl dance for
[00:59:47] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I do I know what you're talking about, and I have a name Was it It was cuties. I think it was was it cuties? Something like that. Yeah. You know, and I have a neighbor that that did that with her daughter with beauty pageants Mhmm. And someone like that. It was all about the mom.
[01:00:11] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. Mom wanted the wanted the pride and the fame, and it's almost like a, like Muhshausen by proxy. Right. Yep.
[01:00:22] Rich Chelson:
Right. But, yeah, see and see, that's see, that's wrong. That that me, I I do I do not agree with that. You know, if the child enjoys it and wants to do it and and pursue it, go for it. I'm I'm all in, you know, but, but any parent that fucking forces their child because they didn't get to have it when they were growing up, get the fuck out.
[01:00:52] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. And that's what my neighbor that's what my neighbor is.
[01:00:56] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And that's with dance, beauty pageants, anything, singing, anything.
[01:01:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Get the fuck out. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm like that. And well, I'm I'm with that with anything. I don't understand the whole travel competition stuff. That's that's big these days. Because they'll be, like, travel baseball and travel travel gymnastics team and competitions. And it's where they don't just stay in their little area or even in the same state. They go from one state to the other state. And so you have, like, t not t ball team, but baseball teams that that are traveling. They go from they'll be here in in, like, Oklahoma City, and they'll travel up to, travel up to Iowa and and Mhmm. Play a game there, and then they'll head on. And it's like, no. What? What's the purpose of that? I'm sorry. No. Okay. Now hold on. Helping anything. Get granted Are you sure?
Yeah. I'm sure. It's not helping nothing.
[01:01:56] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Look at it like this. Okay? Because and reason I say this, when I was a kid, I have played on coy league baseball team.
[01:02:05] Bryan Goodwin:
And I don't know what that is. I'm sure I'm so I'm assuming it's mostly like Babe Ruth League and and Yeah. Something like that. Okay? But but you see the thing is,
[01:02:16] Rich Chelson:
you know, you, say, we played different towns within probably a 30, 40 mile radius of us. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's favorites. Okay. We would go to them. They would come to us and all like this. And honestly, I enjoyed that immensely. The reason for actually a couple reasons, to be honest with you, one, you got to meet new kids, you know, possibly make some friends or make some enemies 1 or the other, depending on how it came out. You know? And 2, it, it actually made you a better sportsman and a better athlete because you got to because you're not used to just playing everyone in your town after a while. That's just fucking boring, man.
[01:03:06] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, I get that. You play other people. I understand I understand that that sports does provide some benefits. It teaches you some very essential key parts of life, and sports is good for that. But places like Texas and how and Oklahoma and how seriously they take football and baseball and and basketball and all that, I'm, like, going, none of these kids are going to do anything with baseball. There might be one out of the area who might
[01:03:43] Rich Chelson:
take a swing at major leagues. There might, but, but also also look at it like this. How many of these kids are gonna wind up staying in that little fucking town that they live in their whole life versus going out and seeing things? You know, these, these kids traveling. No, these kids traveling. Most of them, them seeing these other towns, that's their whole world right there because you know, maybe their, their upbringing isn't, isn't as good as others and maybe they won't have the same, things, things afforded to them to, go explore and do things, unless they want to. You know how it, dude, you know how it is.
We get raised a certain way and we stay stuck in that way. It's not until we actually use our minds and say, Hey, we don't have to do that anymore. Okay. And then we step out on our own scared shitless and say, oh, yeah, we didn't die. We're good. You know? But Well, maybe maybe that's me. I mean, I don't know. Difference.
[01:05:00] Bryan Goodwin:
I don't know. And Because, 1 it could be. I can't stand sports. I I think sports will I turn on radio to listen to music in in in Western Oklahoma during high school when high school, is is in session, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you're not gonna listen to anything other than a freaking baseball, football, basketball game going on. It's like, son of a bitch. Some people like music. Some people don't give a rat's ass about sports. Alright? And so
[01:05:33] Duuude-Ron :
it just We got a we got a couple of channels here. Yep. Friday night, football. Yeah. It's like, okay. You you guys don't have very many eighties music channels in the 1st place, and then you wanna override it with Friday Night Football.
[01:05:52] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? And it's like That that's that's great
[01:05:55] Duuude-Ron :
that there are, you know, a lot of sports fans out there. I'm the same way you are. I I'm not watching football on Saturday, Sunday.
[01:06:08] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm not I'm not watching football game. Last football game professional football game I ever sat down and watched was the last time the, last time the the Cowboys actually won the Super Bowl.
[01:06:25] Duuude-Ron :
Were you rooting for the cowboys?
[01:06:27] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. I was rooting for the cowboys, but Oh, shit. But even now That was a long time ago. That was yeah. Yeah. It was it was early nineties. And so, it was but it was that was just, you know, I've got caught up with everybody else going, oh, hey. Look. I mean, I I was in Dallas the first time, the when they did their back to back, you know, that first time they did it, I happened to be in Dallas at that time. And, boy, that was a that was an interesting show to watch. Didn't even go to the Super Bowl. I was just in Dallas at the time that Super Bowl was going on. And so everybody was all hyped up at and downtown Dallas mind.
[01:07:12] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. Leave their fucking mind. Yeah. Hey, Brian.
[01:07:16] Bryan Goodwin:
But it was fun. And but but at the same time, no. Sports do not sport you know, Marx liked to say I think it was Marx, might have been Lenin. Anyhow, one of the one of the big well known communist dudes said that church, religion is the opiate of the people. And I would say bull fucking shit. Sports are the opiates of the people.
[01:07:45] Duuude-Ron :
Sports Yeah. Offer
[01:07:47] Bryan Goodwin:
no value except for a waste of time. Guys would sit around and wish, oh, I wish I could get more stuff done. Well, you wouldn't sit in front of the television for the next 6 hours watching a damn game that you have no part of. You would actually get something done in your life. You could actually accomplish something. You might even be able to woo your wife and make it in bed if you gave, you know, even 3 hours of your of your Saturday and Sunday weekends.
[01:08:20] Rich Chelson:
Well, see see the see the thing is also if you stop and think about it, some people see sports as a religion. That is their religion.
[01:08:32] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? And, yeah, they see it as a religion. I don't know why. I don't know. I don't I don't either. Well, that's the next time. The Romans also enjoyed the hell out of watching watching Jews get fed the lions too. So, you know, there is a and a lot of it I I in all reality, I I see a part of why men are men themselves are attracted to sports. Especially the violent sports, football. How physical basketball gets, boxing, things like that, is because men need controlled violence in their life. Well, I'm But a lot of these men aren't willing to get up and have controlled violence in their life. So they I don't know. Supplement it with football, basketball, and and Well, MMA.
[01:09:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. MMA, which which yeah. But Is now the big thing. Yeah. One sport one sport that, I'm actually shocked that didn't make it over here, because it's, it's like, it's like fucking epitome of controlled, violence, rugby, smear the queer.
[01:09:42] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:09:43] Rich Chelson:
That's what it is. Smear the fucking queer,
[01:09:46] Bryan Goodwin:
and you have a winner and a loser. Yeah. And but but the reason why that didn't make it across because, again, you got I mean, hell, they're throwing a big enough fit because because they because people believe that if you got pads on, you're safer. And that's that's objectively false. We actually have more concussions in the NFL than the rugby players over in England do.
[01:10:17] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah.
[01:10:18] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly. They have more concussions than they do in an Australian football. Exactly. Because people think they're all padded up. We're safe. No. No. You're actually putting yourself at at in harm's way. Also, it doesn't help that you're also putting, like, 500 pound linebackers who can run the speed of a damn, you know, of a Volkswagen with a bad carburetor. You know? Right. I still run down the run down a a freaking freaking field and and clobber somebody. And I'm not with I'm not with the with the the the liberals who are going, oh, Richard, stop stop football. No. No. They knew what they're doing. They're grown men, but the fact that they've been fooled to think that their their their pads and their helmets are protecting them is dumb. But at the same time, it's not providing anything. It does not The thing is, though. And, I mean, NFL sues everybody into into oblivion. And they're actually supposed to be a nonprofit organization of all that bullshit.
[01:11:22] Unknown:
Yeah. But but now now you see, thing is, though, hold on, though. I I know I know within the last 10 years, there's been more and more players
[01:11:35] Rich Chelson:
that have stood up and said this, but the NFL being the big, basically the big government that it is that we have today in our own White House, they've been shooting it down. But players have been saying for years that, you know, they're not safe and they know that, you know, they because Well, you're you've got all sorts of I mean, they're there.
[01:12:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You got all the repeated cushions that happened. And, yeah, that's Because they go that's a
[01:12:08] Duuude-Ron :
Because they go helmet on helmet. Yeah. Well, rugby doesn't go head on head.
[01:12:14] Bryan Goodwin:
No. They don't. Because you you go. That's gonna hurt if I conk his noggin. We get 2 coconuts bashing together. Someone's gonna have have their their milk being let out, and, and that's no no bueno. Right. So, yeah, they they don't go 200%. They maybe do, you know, 75%. And a lot of it is just is shoulder tack, not even tackling. It's just spinning everybody around around till they get dizzy enough to drop the drop the the oblong ball.
[01:12:46] Rich Chelson:
Right. Yeah. So That's I mean, you know, I mean, they could they could change change the way things are played, but if they did that, the NFL would lose an ass load of money. Oh yeah. And God forbid, if that happens, they ain't doing that shit.
[01:13:05] Bryan Goodwin:
Now, and it's, but again, like I said, I mean, it's you sit here and like my hometown, they've gone off you couldn't you wouldn't recognize the original high school campus. From the time I graduated till today, wouldn't recognize it. Half the practice field is gone. Half and, and it's got a whole bunch of new stuff. They've taken and built a new gym next to the old gym and spent just God knows how much freaking money on on sports stuff. And there and and now I'm not one to go, well, you need to think of all the education because now I think education these days is non beneficial. I think the modern education system is designed to to produce a very well rounded employee.
It's not meant to educate a kid. It's not meant to have a kid become smarter. It's to go, alright. How well can you sit still so that you you become employee of the month?
[01:14:17] Rich Chelson:
I hold it, though. Most of the kids that come out of high school don't even wanna fucking work. So, I mean, they're Well, nowadays like that.
[01:14:28] Bryan Goodwin:
Nowadays, no, they're and that's thank COVID for that little, that little blunder right there.
[01:14:35] Duuude-Ron :
But, you know,
[01:14:36] Bryan Goodwin:
but I mean, it's up until till COVID time. That was there. That was the that was what school was doing. It and this is what school's still trying to do. It's like, you know, if you get up and, you know, that's why I'm, you know, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th grade, they're busy trying to shove as many as much, as many, ADHD pills down all the kids' throats as they can. So the kid will just sit there. Right. And the teacher doesn't have to actually do anything other than recite what they think needs to be the lesson of the day. Pretty much. Pretty much.
[01:15:17] Rich Chelson:
I'm not gonna see hiccups.
[01:15:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Alright. Everybody look at Rich and watch him. See if he see if he hiccups for us. Come on. Come on. Hiccup, hiccup. Or is he gonna hiccup? Is he gonna hiccup? Come on. Hiccup. Hiccup. Yeah. Come on. Okay. There you go. I think I'm good. Thank you, Brian. I appreciate it. How about, hey, hey, having the world watch you hiccup is one of the best ways to stop a hiccup. So if it, if that still doesn't work, then I would say go go into your, into your change drawer, grab up a handful of of pit quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies, set them on the on the table, and try to stack them all up. Why?
Why? Cause you're concentrating on stacking getting the concentrate on getting those pennies to all stand on their edge. Get them all stand up. Oh. I think I said stack up, but I meant stand them all up. And, okay. Because you'll be concentrating on that. You won't won't notice that the spasm in the back of your throat that's causing the hiccup actually has let up, and you'll actually stop. And then what happens is when you're about 3 quarters of the way along, then you have an asshole come by and slam the table and not they all jump up in the air and fall down.
[01:16:36] Rich Chelson:
You say that's why I don't I don't have no one in the house with me, so just give me
[01:16:44] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll have to get TaskRabbit. Activate TaskRabbit and have somebody come by and knock on your door. Come in. Slam. Alright. There we go. We're good. I'm out. We're good. Alright. $20. There we go. So but now and and that's that I forget exactly what even caused me to go on that little rant. But yeah. Just the fact that everybody yeah. Just to just everybody going into everybody who wigs out and and thinks, like, sports are the are the cats meow is no. Sorry. But sports, as in a for an adult, does nothing. The only well, the correction. There is one really good benefit to sports.
What's that? But it doesn't always hold. It's not for everybody. It has taken quite a few folks in the ghetto and pulled them out. But at the same time, it's a lot like YouTube. Very few people try to get into into the, into into sports. There are very people people other people who are trying to get into sports actually make it. And very few people who are trying to do do YouTube or even TikTok or any of the others actually make it. And so, no, it it boils all the way back to what we originally were talking about, and it's yeah. It sucks that, you know, that work has to be done.
But at the same time, that work is actually very rewarding.
[01:18:25] Unknown:
Right. Now if you listen to kids who have gone to college, they go, oh, yeah. You're just being taken advantage of me, and it's all terrible. You said you do all the work and work and work all your life just for for a for a little bit of money at the end. Well, then you're not doing life right.
[01:18:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Mhmm. You're not playing the game correctly. You're sitting there playing it like like a like a half assed loser. Right. If you wanna make if you wanna have the ability to go travel and the ability to go see all these wonderful cool cool exotic locations, you can do that. And still take money, set it off to the side, and have a wonderful time. Have a, you know Yeah. The housing prod the housing situation sucks. Yeah. You can't buy a house typically. You have to be making almost a $150,000 a year to really actually afford a house.
[01:19:24] Rich Chelson:
The thing is, though, what house? I mean, I mean, because
[01:19:33] Bryan Goodwin:
that's the average house. So there's, yeah, you know, there's, there's still some houses out there that are under a 100,000 and there's plenty that are, but Right. Right. But but hold on here. Hold on here. Cause see, this is something
[01:19:46] Rich Chelson:
that I haven't agreed ever agreed with ever when they come out with the national average. Okay. And say, say, you know, freaking median income is, is, you know, this much or whatever it is. Right? I've always made less than, than the median income. Okay? I still make less than the median income. Yeah. And I still was able to buy a house that was over a $100,000
[01:20:20] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But at the same time, it is you and you live well below your means.
[01:20:32] Rich Chelson:
Well, this is this is true. That's why I'm a cheap bastard.
[01:20:36] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You are cheap bastard and that's why we love you because you're one of the you're somebody who's you can show the world you don't have to live. You're not the fucking government. No. Do not live above your means. Alright? You cannot produce more money. Nope. You cannot just go to the back or run a printing press and all of a sudden have an extra quarter $1,000,000 in your back pocket. I wish. It it'd be nice. Yeah. I'm ready. But at the same time, it's not something that is it well, you can also. You can. You're not gonna be making it very far with that quarter million because someone's gonna go, yeah. This is fake.
Right. And
[01:21:17] Rich Chelson:
Right. But yeah. See. No. No. And see, that's the thing. You know? These these kids in college coming out saying this shit, or even, young people coming up, they're like, oh, we just can't make it. We just can't make it. Well, you know what? Cancel 99% of those subscriptions that you have. Yeah. That you're that you're not fucking using. That's gonna return a minimum of $300 a month to your account. 300. Well You know, give or take. That's very possible. Yeah. Give or take. You know? And then, and then, and then when you go to the store, buy the fucking cheap brand of shit, because it's the same as the name brand, except Kraft American Cheese.
You gotta buy Kraft American Cheese.
[01:22:09] Bryan Goodwin:
I'm sorry. I got we, we buy if we do, we buy buy we, we just buy great value. It works just It does, it does melt right. It doesn't melt right for me, man. Well, I actually don't ever hardly I don't I'm not a big fan of American cheese anyhow. The only time you actually uses this for your hamburger.
[01:22:29] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. But I still I still buy Kraft because it melts just right. It it it just gets right. It's just perfect. But but no, sir, seriously, though, on your on your groceries, cut back on on the junk food, the fucking 20 bags of chips, the fucking 6 cases of goddamn soda. You don't need that much fucking shit. You know? I mean, yeah. I mean, seriously, look at, honestly, if you would look at your spending habits on everything, you can see your write down your spending habits. It'll fucking tell you exactly where you can save money. Yeah. That's what I do every fucking month. Excuse me. I look at, I look at my bills.
I look at my bills and it's like, do I really need to keep this bill? Well, if I wanna keep lights on, yeah, I probably do. If I want to keep podcasts and I need to keep my internet, you know, on, on down, you know? So, yeah, that's, I mean, it's, it's that simple, that freaking simple. And that just hurts me because everybody says, oh, we can't make it. We can't make
[01:23:47] Bryan Goodwin:
it. And you're right. That the current spending levels that you are, you're at, you can't make it. And that's almost that or not almost. That is one of the very big reasons why I think it would do this country in the world a lot of good if we were to go on ahead and have another great recession or great depression come in. No. It was depression. Oh, no, we do. We do. There was so much learned because of the depression. Yep. Yeah. But, so many of the old habits that our great grandparents had now granted, we we're that old guys. And so our great grandparents were born in the 1800. Right.
And and and they were so they and they went through they were grown adults when they went through the great depression. And now there's a reason why my great grandmother saved saved the tinfoil. Oh, yeah. She would wash the twin tinfoil, fold it up, put it back in the drawer because you did not waste shit. That's right. You learned how to how to work on the damn car because you did not take the car to the mechanic because you didn't have, you know, unless you had a a dozen eggs that you could give to the mechanic because you weren't going to spend money. Right.
[01:25:04] Rich Chelson:
But but see, the thing is the freaking young people of today, they would, they would, they would literally kill themselves. Oh, yeah. And Because they would not know how to navigate something of that magnitude.
[01:25:22] Bryan Goodwin:
No. And they they wouldn't, but that would again, we do so much growing and we become so much better people when we face those uncomfortable aspects of life. What was what was happening before the great depression in the thirties? We had the roaring twenties. It was. I mean, the main song of the big song of that time was we're in the money. We're in the money. Oh, yeah. And then and then it was the next decade. It was, brother, can you spare a dime?
[01:26:00] Rich Chelson:
A die. Yeah. Literally, a dime.
[01:26:03] Bryan Goodwin:
A dime. And a dime was a good chunk of change even back then. Right. I mean, you could buy a hamburger, fries, and a drink, and probably even get, get some, something for dessert for a dime, maybe maybe 15¢.
[01:26:21] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Oh, yeah. No. And you see you see that thing, dirt during the 19 twenties, that I mean, I mean, that was when we had the, you know, oil came on the scene. You know, fucking electricity was coming. All all this shit was coming. You know, cars were coming in and being more widely accepted. I mean, things were just busting,
[01:26:48] Bryan Goodwin:
busting out, you know? Yeah. Well, you do know that the twenties actually started out with a depression also. Right? No. I'd no. I didn't know what. It started out with the depression, but the government did what they were supposed to do. They cut spending drastically, like, in half. Their their their budget went from, you know, say, like, a $100,000 just because I have a little brain, and that's a lot of money for me. So the took went from a $100,000 down to $50,000.
[01:27:17] Rich Chelson:
They cut gonna happen today.
[01:27:19] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. Hell no. No. There's so much other shit that they've gotta they wanna spend, and it's all on stupid shit that, yeah, they're not about to do any of that. They've Oh, hell no. Give money to Ukraine. So but they cut spending drastically and got the economy going back up again. And because that's how they did it, the depression only lasted, like, maybe a year, 2 years, and then all of a sudden, you had the roaring twenties and everything Right. Sprung way back into where it was. And all of a sudden, yeah, everything's rolling great, doing good, amazing even. And then the thirties happened.
And then and the only reason why the thirties why the depression lasted a whole decade plus some is again because of because of the policies that were enacted by by,
[01:28:19] Duuude-Ron :
Biden. Biden.
[01:28:25] Bryan Goodwin:
By by, Biden was in office
[01:28:28] Rich Chelson:
in the well, same difference. Right? Yeah. I mean, both democrats.
[01:28:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Yep. Democrat and they and wanted to wanted to try to give people as many freebies as possible, and, it extended the, extended the pain.
[01:28:47] Rich Chelson:
Oh, wait. Is that is that is that is that Bernie Sanders' great great grandpa?
[01:28:54] Bryan Goodwin:
No. Because, because, even then, I mean, hell, all the, all the Roosevelt's, had some form of, some form of a of a job, from what I understand.
[01:29:07] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Well, I mean, I, I mean, yeah, I'm not saying, you know, I can't really knock the Roosevelts because yeah. I mean, every, every president fucks up, screws up, and all like this. Oh, yeah. But, but, and, and, you know, the Roosevelts, they still they still did some good. I'm still trying to find the good that that Biden did, and we're not gonna go down this rabbit hole. I'm just it was just going along with with with what mine was tracking. But, you know, it just I don't know. I just I just make jokes because I'm fucking happy. I've got a house, man. You got a house, man.
[01:29:47] Bryan Goodwin:
So
[01:29:48] Duuude-Ron :
Fucking happy. You need now all you need is a Tesla.
[01:29:54] Rich Chelson:
You you can bite the big weenie, dude.
[01:29:57] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, I wish I I'll have to look it up again. It's on it I threw it on Facebook, but they have lost something like 700 Ford company has lost something like $700,000,000,000.
[01:30:13] Rich Chelson:
Ford? What? Why is Ford losing money? Because they have their own EVs.
[01:30:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah. You have you have the EV the Mustang lightning of all damn things. Straight. Which it does not look like a Mustang. It looks like a fucking SUV last fucking ugly
[01:30:31] Duuude-Ron :
mother. That that That that that was a fucking ugly ass abortion.
[01:30:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah.
[01:30:37] Rich Chelson:
I'll okay. Hold it. Hold it. Put it up put it up against the Cybertruck. Which one looks worse?
[01:30:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, Cybertruck Phil. Still, still do. But, yeah, there's not a the Rivians don't look, don't look good at all. I mean, the headlights are kinda interesting because they're it's kinda rounded square thing. Yeah. But Who But it's who makes the Rivians? I think that's the name of the company is the Rivian.
[01:31:06] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Well, let me look it up because, I've seen a couple Rivians around here and and and the lights, like you said, kinda look cool. Yeah. They look cool, but man, I still,
[01:31:20] Bryan Goodwin:
well, I've got a, I've got a, a, a video of it. I'll, I'll throw it up on the, on the, on the, the Facebook page.
[01:31:27] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Rivian. But it's Rivian.
[01:31:30] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Okay. It is Rivian. But it's by RJ
[01:31:35] Rich Chelson:
Scaringe in 09.
[01:31:40] Bryan Goodwin:
So, yep. Somebody help out. They can make some money.
[01:31:44] Duuude-Ron :
But going back to Tesla, you know, like Rich, I fucking hate electric cars, period. Yeah. Just Well blow them. Because okay. The, electric vehicle, it costs how much fucking diesel and how much other stuff to make one of those damn batteries.
[01:32:16] Bryan Goodwin:
And Well, it it takes quite a bit. Right.
[01:32:18] Duuude-Ron :
It does. So one of those batteries and they're estimating right now without the human factor of manufacturing the batteries, will last roughly 10 years. And they're not warrantied. To buy a new battery for a Tesla is, like, $21,000.
[01:32:41] Bryan Goodwin:
Yes. Going back 20, $21,000. Yeah.
[01:32:44] Duuude-Ron :
It costs $15,000 plus to make it. With with all of the the they say environmental savings, the batteries, well, what, 3 years that they're actually making money in the big scheme after all of the raw materials that they take out of the ground for the batteries and everything else that it takes to produce them, they get about actually 3 years
[01:33:26] Bryan Goodwin:
of work. Yeah. That's yeah. That's about how just about any I mean, look at your phone. Your phone lasts about 2 to 3 years before the battery's just you know, you're getting you're charging it for for 8 hours for 2:2 hours of use. So
[01:33:43] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, yeah. With without a doubt. And these days, try and find a phone that you actually replace the battery on the phone versus you have to replace the whole fucking phone.
[01:33:57] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. You even like the like the iPhone and and the current, Galaxy phones, you can have the battery replaced. You just you have to go to one of the the phones repair shops around town. Right. And it still is gonna cost you about a 100 to a $120 to get the battery changed out.
[01:34:21] Duuude-Ron :
Right. But you can't change the battery. Buy a battery.
[01:34:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, no. No. You can't just change the bat no. That's because they because of the fact that the phone itself is sealed so that it would be waterproof. Apple just would like oh, from the very beginning was like, oh, dude. No. You're not messing with the battery. We're gonna keep the battery in here. We've got it all smashed up. We got it smashed as as compactly as we can. You're not messing with the battery. And so and so I I knew he never could change the bat the Apple, the Apple battery. And I love the fact that because I used to have the old, son of a bitch. I had the name in my head just a second ago.
[01:35:01] Duuude-Ron :
Insight,
[01:35:04] Bryan Goodwin:
instinct. Anyhow, one of the early early touchscreen phones, and actually I've still got it at the house, but, because it had a change, you could actually take the back off and you would take the whole back off and you could put a new battery in, somebody got smart and was, like, going, okay. Well, let's do a double stacked battery. And, yeah, it looked uglier and sin because you had this this black slab of a phone, and it had this humpback on the back because I put a double battery on the fucking thing. And it that thing lasted for a good 3, 4 years. Yeah. It still took a long time. When the batteries started to die, they started to die.
And, yeah, you would charge it for 8 hours for for an hour's worth of of use. And as soon as you unplug it, it would you'd see it go from from a 100 it would say a 100%, and as soon as you unplug it, it would drop down about 50%. You're like, oh, son of a bitch. Okay. Yeah. We're back. It it was it's a Perma Connect phone eventually and so you just kept it on plugged in all the time. And, because nowadays, hell, if you take a battery, you let the bat battery on a phone drain all the way out, you will not be able to get that phone started again because of when with lithium, you do not let lithium, ion batteries get to actually 0 because then things start becoming very unstable again if you start trying to add charge back to it.
[01:36:38] Rich Chelson:
And so, yeah, if they I don't know about I don't I don't know about y'all's phones, but, lithium ion batteries, I've let them get down to, like, 2%, and then my phone shuts off.
[01:36:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, yeah. No. That again, that's that's that's the saving
[01:36:56] Rich Chelson:
that's the that's the the very reason why. Thing. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. I I understand that. But you see, the thing is you might not like all the electric car bullshit and everything. I don't, honestly, I ain't gonna, you know, argue with anybody on that. But honestly, in my little opinion, very little opinion,
[01:37:22] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, you wanted to you wanted to say it before anybody else had a chance to say it.
[01:37:27] Bryan Goodwin:
What?
[01:37:28] Rich Chelson:
Little opinion.
[01:37:30] Duuude-Ron :
Oh. Yeah. Very little opinion.
[01:37:33] Rich Chelson:
Very little opinion. But, your best bet would be to invest into the electric cars and all this shit, because we're going to see it in our lifetime. They're gonna wind up. They're they're starting a chunk of the market.
[01:37:55] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, not fully. Try no. But they're Maybe not fully, though. For a while. I I really and it it would be good, but at the same time, I'm gonna say no. You're Well, I mean, that's fine. But feeling off they're peeling away from it right now. Everyone's starting to go, of course. Dude, of course. Just because the stock market fucking crashed, wait until next week when it starts going back up again. What the fuck they won't do? They've been they've been actually leaving the, been seeing insane losses in in the EV market for the past year and a half.
There could be there could be There's no there's no money in there because one, nobody Right now, there is no to have a car. And well, there never will be unless they come up with some super amazing type of battery that will actually get people to, you know, let them travel 350 miles and then will only take 10 minutes to charge up.
[01:38:53] Duuude-Ron :
Yep.
[01:38:54] Bryan Goodwin:
Until that happens, EVs are dead. EVs are just a a Okay. A Okay. Fart in in, in the liberals dream of utopia.
[01:39:07] Rich Chelson:
Okay. No. That's fine. That I I freaking totally respect that. But by your statement, we're gonna see it in our our lifetime.
[01:39:17] Bryan Goodwin:
I guarantee We've seen it. We've seen them today. No. No. No.
[01:39:21] Unknown:
Because there's a certain
[01:39:22] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. Listen. We're gonna be a straight 100% EV, vehicle gun.
[01:39:28] Rich Chelson:
Brian. Brian. Country in 2030 is what Biden wants to see it. Brian. We're gonna see it. Fuck Biden. Fuck what the government says. Fuck everything like that. In in our lifetime, we've got about another 50 years to live, give or take. 40, 50 years. Within that 40 to 50 years, they are gonna have what you just said.
[01:39:53] Bryan Goodwin:
You watch. And if they, and if they accomplish that, then good. But it's still not gonna be, it's still gonna be a lot of people who are going to also be like me who are gonna say no. Well, that's fine. I mean, that's fine. But but I'm saying And I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind the EV car being around
[01:40:11] Rich Chelson:
if they weren't shoving it down our freaking throats. Well, no, I agree. I'm the same way. I'm not saying I'm not, I'm not fucking running out and getting an EV car for fucking nothing, but I'm saying invest in the company, whichever company you choose, because when it does take off that little little bit of stock you bought for, you know, 50, $80 a share or less or whatever, it's gonna fucking skyrocket. Just just sit on it. You know, the stock market, just like life itself is the long game. It's not the short game. Right.
[01:40:49] Bryan Goodwin:
You know? But at the same time yeah. And and you
[01:40:52] Rich Chelson:
It's not dead. I It's not dead. I don't I don't care I don't care what anybody says. The the EV market, the solar power, it all that, it's not dead.
[01:41:02] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. It's not ever going to be a 100% DOA, but it is never going to be as it's like AI. It's not going to be nearly as good as everybody wants to hype it up to be. The only reason why they're hyping it up to be and they're they're going rah rah rah rah rah rah is because some somebody who owned a lot of stock in a EV company went to the government and goes, hey. Let help me be, help this, help me out. Let's see if we can get this thing to become really popular. You can get 25% of the profits or 50% of the profits. It's gonna be a multi bajillions dollar market. So Yeah. I gotcha. And so someone went and is crony capitalism that because right now, car no. Car EV cars should not be I should not be seeing a a bastardized, disgustingly horrible car like the like the Cybertruck on on on the road. That looks like a toddler drew it in a low polygon model.
[01:42:05] Rich Chelson:
Right. No. I know. And
[01:42:07] Duuude-Ron :
then on top of that, on top of that, to have one in the color of
[01:42:14] Bryan Goodwin:
That's not a pink. No.
[01:42:18] Duuude-Ron :
No pink. Are you fucking kidding me? Right. Better yet,
[01:42:23] Bryan Goodwin:
that that shit. Oh, yeah. It was it was Mary Kay, I bet.
[01:42:28] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. No. It's worse than Mary Kay. It's pepto pink, fucking ugly as goddamn sin. Just like I saw a Tesla car with a chameleon paint job on it. You know, I've seen some hot rods with chameleon paint on it. I didn't like those either. But somebody put a chameleon paint job on a freaking Tesla. Yeah. That was bad. But but the again, to have one Pepto pink you know what? If it was a I couldn't see who was driving it, but if it was a dude driving it, this son of a bitch better been wearing a fucking dress.
[01:43:07] Rich Chelson:
Probably was if it was a dude.
[01:43:09] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, it was it I can I'm guaranteed. I've had more than likely with somebody with a somebody in Mary Kay.
[01:43:18] Rich Chelson:
See, the reason I say this, and and yeah, with with the Pepto Pink, I I would probably have to agree it's someone with Mary Kay. But,
[01:43:29] Duuude-Ron :
the reason I'm saying this But there was no there was no Mary Kay logo on it.
[01:43:34] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, well, then I don't know. Somebody who was just absolutely stupid and had too much fucking money. No. That too. A fool's money are soon parted.
[01:43:44] Rich Chelson:
Yes. Yep. Very, very much so. But but see, the thing is though, you know, look at Bitcoin, look at cryptocurrency. I mean, it, it freaking fluctuates, but just, just as early as what? 09? What, what was, Bitcoin's price? Not even a penny. I would know. Yeah. Or 9 to something like that. It was dirt fucking cheap. And now it's what? 70 some 1,000 or 60 or 50, whatever it is. I I mean, I I
[01:44:16] Duuude-Ron :
It's right around 54 right now. 54. Okay. Oh, yeah. But it's gone as high as freaking that I've seen, it's gone as high as 69,000.
[01:44:26] Bryan Goodwin:
And it's gotten as high as 70 plus 1,000.
[01:44:30] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. I've seen So the highest the, highest I've seen is, like, 72. Yeah. But but still, you know, I mean, think about it. From 09 to to 2023, 2024. 15 years, it's gone that high.
[01:44:49] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. You're trying to tell me
[01:44:53] Rich Chelson:
now hold on. Hold on. You're trying to tell me you're trying to tell me the EV market can't do the same thing. That's bullshit.
[01:45:03] Bryan Goodwin:
They're gonna but at the same time, the what Bitcoin is based on and the fact that it's based on its own scarcity is the reason why it's so is is so valuable. For a electric vehicle to become even close to par of a regular car, it has to be I'm I'm with, I'm with Russ. EVs will take off the moment they have commercial airliners that are running off of battery power. Right. Solely. When they get to, when they get batteries to the point to where they could have planes flying transatlantic flights, transpacific flights on a single charge will be good. And, yeah, car you'll start seeing EV cars come out and they will be highly popular and they will Yeah. Take over, as long if they can become better than what we have right now Right.
Then they're, yeah, they're gonna be pop they're gonna be valuable.
[01:46:15] Rich Chelson:
But right now, they're not. They're No. I know this. Shut down our throats because No. I know this. Because the government said, hey. Well, you've gotta wear it. Or you gotta use this. And now Yeah. Well, fuck the government. I've been saying Well, I agree. For years. I don't care. But no. And see, that's the thing. You know? I mean, yes, I agree with you. But what I'm saying that on, on the same hand, okay, in our lifetime, we're going to see it happen.
[01:46:41] Duuude-Ron :
There's a chance. Unfortunately. Unfortunately.
[01:46:45] Rich Chelson:
We, I mean, we are. I just, I don't know why, but, but the and and the thing is, what
[01:46:54] Duuude-Ron :
Give me a give me a 440 440 big block with a 671 wind, supercharger and a blower, and I'll be happy, motherfucker. Oh, yeah. I can do. You can keep that great big you can keep that great big battery that goes when you step on the and why do they call them gas pedals in electric cars?
[01:47:20] Rich Chelson:
Why? Because that's just what they've been called for years.
[01:47:25] Duuude-Ron :
Mhmm. You're right. Because we've had, you know, carbureted, aspirated motor vehicles now for a 100 years. You know? And, yeah, it's a gas pedal, but, you know, why are they gas pedal in an electric car? Things that make you go
[01:47:45] Bryan Goodwin:
because the the the the go pedal just didn't sound quite right. I can see. Yeah. You're right. The Maker Go.
[01:47:54] Duuude-Ron :
Now you know to say the go pedal. Seen and I have seen on, you know, cop shows and or what have you and on on Facebook. Now don't get me wrong. A Tesla, when you hit that go pedal and it can pass a motorcycle, yeah, it's got some power.
[01:48:14] Bryan Goodwin:
No power. Yeah. They've got some serious torque. And, I mean, you you turn and if you go off and you pay and this is the other thing that a lot of people don't want in cars. And this is what's actually going is also one of the big things that's hurting car ownership, electric vehicle ownership, is the software as a service that you have to buy to use in your car. Yeah. Like if you do something and well, one of the big problems that I have with Tesla is is if you do something, you say something about Tesla and Elon Musk doesn't like the fact that you, that you said that, they have, in the past, with other people disabled the supercharger feature in the car.
[01:49:07] Rich Chelson:
Really?
[01:49:08] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. And so with the electric car, you're also going to be hamstringing yourself if, if they ever go off and say the government decides, you know what? We're gonna go ahead and convert over to the digital dollar. We're gonna do the central bank digital currency. And, then all they have to do is when you go to get go to driving around and all of a sudden you're outside of your 15 mile or 15 minute radius for your 15 minute city, and they go, hey. You're too far out. You can't, you're not gonna be able to supercharge or you can't charge at all.
[01:49:45] Rich Chelson:
You see, and that's you see now that because you you say that's the thing there. And this is where, this is where the gunman is failing. Our infrastructure currently cannot handle a mass influx of electric vehicles.
[01:50:08] Duuude-Ron :
Cannot. No. It will it will never. Our infrastructure will never.
[01:50:15] Rich Chelson:
Well Denver. It can. It can if they started, well, they should have started 10, 15 years ago. But if if they work 7 days a week Woulda, coulda, shoulda started
[01:50:29] Duuude-Ron :
woulda, coulda, shoulda. And our infrastructure
[01:50:34] Rich Chelson:
hell, our roads are bad enough as it is. Oh, roads. No. No. No. Dude, I mean No. We're not even talking about roads. We're talking No. No. Screw the roads.
[01:50:42] Duuude-Ron :
Electrical things. That. Everything else. They can't do roads, let alone fucking major infrastructure electrical providing.
[01:50:53] Rich Chelson:
I mean, I mean, they could, if, if, if they would, if they would embrace a lot, you know, you know, newer ways of doing things. You know, because most of these towns, hell, our shit's still aerial here. Okay? Most town, most towns up north where you live, dude, it's in the ground.
[01:51:24] Bryan Goodwin:
Everything's in the ground. Oh, ours is all on poles. Yeah. Well, I do. All
[01:51:30] Duuude-Ron :
all of our new construction is going underground. Yes.
[01:51:33] Rich Chelson:
Oh, you've you've got aerial, dude?
[01:51:37] Duuude-Ron :
My house is aerial.
[01:51:39] Rich Chelson:
Okay. Okay. But no. Like like, like, up in Des Moines, the the old part of Des Moines is all aerial. And that's a very small part. I mean, very small. The rest of it, it's all underground. I've been to cities you don't see. The new construction
[01:51:59] Duuude-Ron :
from the new construction from the last 10, 12 years is all underground. You're absolutely correct.
[01:52:07] Rich Chelson:
Right. Just dude, just wait. Because within the next 5 to 6 years, maybe 10, your your whole town will be underground because that's 1. And the reason is is is because it looks better for 1.
[01:52:28] Duuude-Ron :
And Well, I'll give I'll give you that with a without a doubt, but it it ain't gonna happen in my fucking lifetime. Yes. It will. The the house that I'm at right no. I don't think so. The house that I'm in right now with Ariel, well and I'm never gonna be in this house for the rest of my life anyway, so I don't give a shit if it goes underground. But I don't see them putting any fucking underground shit in the neighborhood that I'm in.
[01:52:56] Bryan Goodwin:
They will. And that's kind of the same way with Western Oklahoma. I mean, hell, our town, it because it's, because we still have all our electricity running on poles. I mean, this is the reason why in the wintertime when we have ice storms, we're the last one to get our freaking power turned back on. Yeah. I mean Yeah. Is because they have to go off. They I mean, one, because they have had a grid set up, but also because they have to get, Elk City first because they're they're the bigger area. And, eventually, they get over 10 miles down the road to to Canoe. But
[01:53:31] Duuude-Ron :
it's still it's a
[01:53:33] Bryan Goodwin:
it it's, it everything's in the air, and, yeah, well, you all sit there in winter in the wintertime during during ice storms, you can go out there and just watch the watch the power lines. They're sit there and swing 10, 15 feet differences, and he's like, yep. That's gonna snap any moment now.
[01:53:51] Rich Chelson:
But but see, that's the thing. What I'm saying though is that is that if if they're wanting this this, EV market to kick off like they do, they they need to take everything off the poles and bring it down. It'll be That would help. Yeah. Oh, it would help a lot. And you, you could get more, more consistent, power and everything. You know? It it's just I mean, I don't like a lot of shit in the ground, but I can see the benefits of it.
[01:54:29] Bryan Goodwin:
Right. Well, I see the benefits of it then. I mean, hell, they if they were to have it in the ground, I mean, you could turn one of the lanes into the charging lane and Right. And slide you know, you slide your car into that, and it all recognizes that you're in the charging lane. And you sit there and you can and that would be a great use. If they were even to incorporate something like that, I might be interested in doing some buy purchasing an EV because right now, no. I like my air conditioner too much that uses a quarter of the, of the, of the battery power. Right.
Heater uses even more battery power.
[01:55:14] Rich Chelson:
Right. And, and see, that's the thing. They could actually make make these heaters more efficient and not pull 10 to 15 amps or or or the freaking AC units. I mean, you see, that's the thing. There's there's a lot of freaking inefficiencies, and no one wants to change those. But yet, the government and a lot of other people want us to buy these EV cars.
[01:55:42] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. But at the same time but again, nobody wants to buy them because it takes 3 hours. If, if, you know, takes at the shortest 30 minutes to charge if you still have a good bit of, of energy left, on and you're doing a supercharge. If you happen to wind up at a place that does not have supercharging, you're looking at maybe 3, 4 hours of of sitting around waiting for the charge to finish. Well, and I I mean And if and I still don't understand why they, you know, a huge opportunity that was lot that's hasn't been taken is why not set up a supercharger in front of all the motels?
You know, right in front, you know, that bottom row is all got chargers, and if you happen to have a charge charge, an EV, you could back yourself up in, plug it in, it gets it gets built to your to your room.
[01:56:40] Rich Chelson:
Right.
[01:56:42] Bryan Goodwin:
And when it finishes, charging for the room, then you go and, you know, and when you're going to check out, it takes takes all the, all the stuff for your car and and the room itself and all the dirty movies you watched and bundles it all up into into a a bun, final price and away you go. About $3,000, but okay. Yeah. You know? And and that was one thing, because, and this is another, video that I'll throw up on the, on the Facebook page. Like the, like these the Cybertruck had a there was one guy, who was who was bragging about he was down to 3% on his on his, on his Cybertruck, and he was, got to a station. He was gonna charge it up. It was gonna take an hour and a half to charge up, charge it up to be able to drive like 290 something miles distance. Okay. And that's all that the battery would allow is you get a full charged up completely under 300 miles, of range.
And that's again, that's the, that's the deal. If you're, you have to be able to give them range. Right now, most cars will travel 3 to 3 and a half, 3 to 350 miles on a tank of gas. So a EV would have to travel equal to that. Mhmm. And it would have to take the amount of time to recharge as it does to fill up a tank. Or kinda like I was talking about where you just have charge. You you're rolling down the road. Right. And co and cost
[01:58:23] Rich Chelson:
as much, if not less than the average price for a gallon of gas. Oh, it won't cost less. It won't cost less. I guarantee you that. Now it's gonna keep going up on that because Fucking electric is one top money.
[01:58:39] Duuude-Ron :
Well, yeah. But and what you say out this charging lane. Shit. They just got done building the Central Texas corridor. Corridor. Yeah. The 3 lane minimum 3 lane from Dallas down to San Antonio.
[01:58:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, yeah. There'll be the 4th lane for for Dallas, San Antonio. Right. That'll only take another 50 years. They don't have the technology
[01:59:09] Duuude-Ron :
to freaking get the concrete, the fucking concrete. Right? Right now, the that the whole aspect of I 35 for 3 land is just it's not even complete yet, but the major aspect has been complete for about 2 years. You know how many freaking potholes are in the fucking and repairs they've been making?
[01:59:38] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. I still think they ought to go back to the Roman ways because the hell, at least those roads lasted a couple 1000 years.
[01:59:45] Duuude-Ron :
Right. Or get the or get the formula that they used in the Uh-oh. But, of course, you you know how thick the major auto Cellular
[02:00:00] Rich Chelson:
Chinese.
[02:00:04] Duuude-Ron :
Is that what I'm going to? Yeah.
[02:00:09] Rich Chelson:
No. Say that again, dude.
[02:00:13] Duuude-Ron :
Say what? I don't remember why. You was on the road? Yeah. Yeah. There was. In in fucking potholes, and it's they're less than 2 years old. And and the and the formula in the concrete is crap. They need to do they need to get the formula from the Audubon. But, of course, you know how thick the concrete is on the Audubon?
[02:00:34] Rich Chelson:
No. I don't.
[02:00:35] Bryan Goodwin:
Probably thicker than what they're the than the 6 inches that they're using in, on on the interstates here in Texas.
[02:00:43] Duuude-Ron :
22 to 24 inches thick of concrete in the Audubon or for the Audubon.
[02:00:52] Rich Chelson:
Wow. Think about it. Yep. Think about that. Now now up in Des Moines, last I knew, I I don't know if it's the same price, if it's gone up or what, but 1 yard of concrete, 3 by 3 by 3. Right? A $140. That was 1 yard of concrete. Now think of think of that like fucking 22 inches stick that are 2 foot thick. That is like, oh my god. For, for that's just insane. But yeah, no, I agree. Get that formula because of fucking Audubon, the I mean, a lot of people travel that every day, every year, day in, day out, and the and the weather hits it and they just get after it, you know?
It doesn't fuck up.
[02:01:48] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And when I was over there, I never saw one, not one pothole on the Autobahn anywhere that they traveled. Yeah.
[02:01:59] Rich Chelson:
And you you see those They're my engineering. Yeah. Oh, no. No. And see and see, the thing is, this is, again, my opinion, but, my wee little opinion, that, the reason why we won't get the formula from the Germans or whatnot is because we don't want to admit because we think we're better than everybody else. We don't want to admit that we have failed when anybody who has come over here from another country and I'm talking any country says, yo, your roads are shit. My road in Russia is better than this road. Or the roads in Yeah. And falling
[02:02:48] Duuude-Ron :
apart in less than 2 year in less than 2 freaking years.
[02:02:53] Bryan Goodwin:
Exactly. Yeah. We're fine. Yeah.
[02:02:55] Duuude-Ron :
But but you see And they and they think our infrastructure is gonna get better by the way we make the roads for the electrical vehicles. Not gonna happen.
[02:03:06] Rich Chelson:
But see also also the thing is, though, is all these contracts are, as we know, with the lowest bidder, who can do it the cheapest? You know? So, I mean, what do you get? You get shit, you know, for roads, shit for everything else because it's the lowest, you know, it's the lowest, bid. You're right. I mean, I mean, what's what does concrete cost the Germans? I mean, we don't know that, but still Yeah. They're like, screw it. We don't care. Build it. You know? Now granted, they don't use it on all their roads like that, but the Autobahn, which is a major thoroughfare, you know, suck it up.
You know? Yeah. Make the roads better. But they won't do that because of crony capitalism, like Brian loves to say. Yeah. I, yeah. And I I don't argue with him. I can't argue with him on that on that logic because that's exactly what it is. Crony capitalism. Oh, no. We need to keep our money. It's just as bad as the Democrats wanting to spend our fucking money and keep theirs. We can't win for losing.
[02:04:20] Duuude-Ron :
Okay. Or lose for losing. Win for losing? Losing for losing?
[02:04:26] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. None of it, dude. Yeah. We're just gonna lose
[02:04:30] Duuude-Ron :
all the way around.
[02:04:32] Rich Chelson:
So in that case, what do you do? You pawned.
[02:04:37] Duuude-Ron :
Just No. No. You don't. You go and buy a jeep so you can go off roading and have fun. Or go down the interstate and it's the same thing. You're off roading going down the interstate. Right. Right. But it's always better in a Jeep.
[02:04:56] Rich Chelson:
Yes. It is. Yes. It is. That's why I love my Jeep because it is. It is. Yeah. Whether I'm on the highway bouncing through the potholes or out in the woods bouncing through the ruts, that's the same difference to me. Oh, no. Brian turned his video off. We scared him, I think. Oh, he's back.
[02:05:19] Bryan Goodwin:
Oh, no. He hadn't scared me. I'm just try I just got a notice on here and then I added some some app trying to trying to hit, trying to hit my car, and I'm trying to figure out where the fuck this thing is.
[02:05:32] Rich Chelson:
Oh.
[02:05:35] Duuude-Ron :
Or or better yet, not only can you go off road with a Jeep or hit pot row potholes with the Jeep, if it is snowed out like it kinda does down here, you can go into the side grass area while everybody is stuck on the highway and go and do donuts and entertain everybody.
[02:06:00] Rich Chelson:
That you can.
[02:06:01] Duuude-Ron :
That you can. Yes. And and as long as you get back in the same spot that you were at before, then they really can't, you know, you know, arrest you or give you a ticket or anything because you didn't pass anybody on a single or a solid white line. Well, this is true. Out there entertaining people.
[02:06:21] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. This is true. But you see, the thing is living down here, I don't have to worry about that no more.
[02:06:29] Duuude-Ron :
Well, we wouldn't think so either, but what? 2 years ago, our Jeep Club gave almost 500 rides to first responders, getting them to and from work.
[02:06:43] Rich Chelson:
Well, okay, dude. I get that. But, you know, you didn't have to, like, like, like, harsh my my happiness here, dude. You like Yes, I did. You you like really harsh my happiness, man. What's up?
[02:06:58] Duuude-Ron :
Because you were entirely too happy because, because you're too close you're closer to the ocean than I am, and you should just take your ass back up to Missouri.
[02:07:15] Rich Chelson:
No.
[02:07:15] Duuude-Ron :
No. Where they have all where they can have all kinds of white air in the wintertime.
[02:07:21] Rich Chelson:
No. No, dad. No. No. No. No. No. Not nobody. Hell no. Hey. Oh, I agree with that. I agree with that. Dude. Dude. Hell no. Jump in the Jeep. Get your ass over here. I got a spare room with an air mattress seared up in it all ready for you.
[02:07:42] Duuude-Ron :
I know.
[02:07:43] Rich Chelson:
One day. No, seriously. I, I, I actually pulled my air mattress out of my storage unit yesterday and I, aired it up today. And so, yeah, I've got, I've got at least a bed in that second, bedroom. So,
[02:08:02] Duuude-Ron :
but, yeah, I got You guys just get your regular bed out of the storeroom.
[02:08:07] Rich Chelson:
Well, I'm I'm almost there to it, dude. Almost there.
[02:08:11] Duuude-Ron :
Almost there. Almost to it?
[02:08:12] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm almost to it. I've I've got, I probably have one more full load and then just what's left. My mattress is is, right up against the wall on the vehicle there.
[02:08:30] Duuude-Ron :
And then you'll be a really happy person.
[02:08:33] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. I'll be I'll be really, really happy. So so by this time next week, I won't be even more fucking happy. I'm gonna be ecstatic, dude. You're gonna be totally ecstatic. Totally. Like Because you will have a actual bed to sleep on. God, that'd be so nice. I mean, I'm not trust me. I'm not knocking my air mattress. Okay?
[02:08:57] Duuude-Ron :
But nothing is like your own fucking bed.
[02:09:00] Rich Chelson:
Well, no. You're right. It's not. But in a pinch and, I tell you what, because this air mattress that I'm sleeping on is like 20 inches off the floor, you know? You know? And so I'm not sleeping on the floor, but, yeah, you're right. I would love to have my own bed.
[02:09:20] Duuude-Ron :
Yep. Nothing is like your own bed. Not at all. Yeah. I'm not Not at all.
[02:09:26] Rich Chelson:
But yeah. No. That's, yeah. I'd say, I mean, honestly, probably by this weekend, I have everything over here. But, for sure by next week.
[02:09:42] Duuude-Ron :
I bet you can't wait.
[02:09:44] Rich Chelson:
Oh, yeah. No. No. But you see the thing is, I'm freaking running out of room, man. It's like, where am I gonna put all this shit?
[02:09:53] Duuude-Ron :
And and You're you're running out of room. You're smoking crack. Going from you just told us earlier that your house that you're in right now is 2a half of the houses that you used to live in, and you're running out of room.
[02:10:11] Rich Chelson:
Well, yeah. Kinda well, didn't I didn't I send you the picture of of my furniture, man? I got furniture, dude. No. The what? I didn't. No. No.
[02:10:25] Duuude-Ron :
No. You didn't send me. No. You didn't send me any pictures. Well, damn it. That was that was my fault. Great that you got furniture. We just we we you got a £9,000 freaking bench.
[02:10:42] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. That I do. But yeah. No. I don't know. I'm just I'm just I'm just trying to figure everything out. It's man, I tell you what. I don't know. It's just Okay. They're, they're going through on, Messenger. So but but yeah. No. I should be I should be all set up. Say, I've got I've got to put up one more antenna next week and then, or yeah. Yeah. Probably next week. And then I'll be done with the antennas for a minute. And then, when my one antenna this, this would this one antenna I've been wanting is is called a hex beam. And the company that I'm get getting it from is, always out of stock because, I mean, as soon as they get a shipment in, it sells out immediately.
So so I got put on a waiting list. And, whenever they get more in, they'll, email me and, say, if you want it, here it is. Buy it. And then I can I can buy it and get it, then I will have all the antennas that I need or want? So So then you're gonna have an antenna farm in the backyard that you're gonna have to mow around.
[02:12:18] Duuude-Ron :
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Just got a you should've just bought an o e 254. That's, that's all I'm gonna say. You should've acquired an o e 254.
[02:12:33] Rich Chelson:
Right. Right. Well, you see, that's the thing. This this, this one I'm waiting on actually will do all the bands that I plan to work. So, I mean, I mean, once I get it, I can drop 2 of the antennas or 3 of the antennas. But, I don't know yet what I'll do.
[02:12:59] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, we'll see. You're just gonna have an antenna farm out in your backyard. We know it.
[02:13:04] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. Probably will. Just saying. Probably will.
[02:13:08] Duuude-Ron :
Because because you ain't gonna get you ain't gonna get rid of none of them. You're gonna they're all gonna be hooked up in one way, shape, or form.
[02:13:16] Rich Chelson:
Probably so. Yeah. Yeah. Probably so. Because, yeah, the 2 I got hooked up and I'm and I'm, fixing to put a third up probably, sometime this weekend. So, so I have 3 of them.
[02:13:37] Duuude-Ron :
And then you'll have the 4th one if that one ever comes into stock?
[02:13:41] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. It will. They're saying they're, like, 60 days out. Oh, you see, dude, I couldn't I couldn't use the SOE 254 antenna because of Why not? Because the frequency that it's set up for, I could use it on 10 meters, but it would be 10 meters and down, because it goes from 30 to 88 megahertz. Well, 6 meters, I say I could use it on 10 and I could use it on 6. But after that, I can't I can't go down. Basically, it goes from 10 meters to the, bottom side of the FM band. So Uh-huh. So that is that is a little bit outside of my, Wechsman jigger, my band privileges.
[02:14:49] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. And if and if it's anything like the military, even if you had an o e 25 r or even if you've had an o e 254 set up using all the poles, you still couldn't talk 10 miles. And you wanna and you wanna talk halfway around the world.
[02:15:11] Rich Chelson:
Why do that with a piece of wire, dude?
[02:15:14] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah, I know.
[02:15:16] Rich Chelson:
No, you see the, the, OE 254 that's, that's set up for what's called, Invis or near vertical, incident skywave. Basically, short communications.
[02:15:33] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. I know.
[02:15:35] Rich Chelson:
Within the like 60 miles from where you're at. So, but you see, I would need I would need that antenna to go down to, like, 40 meters, which is 7 megahertz. And, yeah, it it won't do that because the elements aren't long enough.
[02:15:57] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay. Well then, you can't buy an 0254 then?
[02:16:02] Rich Chelson:
No. I can't. Because I I mean, I did look it up to see if I could make it work, man. I ain't gonna lie. Cause you hang up. You're right. I probably, I probably will have an antenna for them. I mean, it's just me. Why not? You know, I've got the room. Why not?
[02:16:22] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah. You know? And 4, 4 antennas will not be enough. Well,
[02:16:28] Rich Chelson:
Well, you know, I don't know. We'll just have to, we'll just have to see because, you know, I don't know. We'll just have to see. And you're right. 4 might not be enough, but I, I mean, I might, I might get a wild hair up my butt and wanna try a new solid man, Tona or an old, old antenna and make and, put a couple twists on it.
[02:16:55] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:16:56] Rich Chelson:
You know? So it is very possible. The only thing is coax is not fucking cheap.
[02:17:05] Bryan Goodwin:
No. No. It's not. There's a lot of metal in that stuff.
[02:17:09] Rich Chelson:
Yeah. And you'll freaking pay for it. Like, like, I just got I just got a 50 foot run of LMR 400, And I think it ran me a $152 for 50 foot. That's $3 a freaking foot. Oh, yeah. I was not happy. Nah. I don't blame you. And see, the thing is the, the, one antenna that I wanna put up, I'm a throw it up in the back forty. I'm gonna need a minimum of a 100 foot run.
[02:17:52] Duuude-Ron :
That's just on that's just on the ground. That doesn't include your, the height of your antenna, miss. Alright?
[02:18:01] Rich Chelson:
See. Or is that your or is that your total weight? No. That'd be total. I'd be I'd be just under a 100 foot because, on this on this wire antenna, that I'm wanting to throw up, it's going probably about 8 foot up in the air on one end and 32 feet on the other end, almost 33 feet. But where I'm hooking the antenna up at is at the 8 foot end. So, and I've got, I think, like 80 and a quarter feet from where it hits the ground to the window I need to come through. So so I'll be I'll be, like, I have probably 10, 12 feet of coax left out of the 100 foot run.
[02:18:47] Duuude-Ron :
Oh, okay.
[02:18:49] Rich Chelson:
So, yeah. Yeah. I always try and make sure that that, you know, I've got about 10% or more extra than what I need.
[02:19:01] Duuude-Ron :
Yeah.
[02:19:01] Rich Chelson:
So,
[02:19:03] Bryan Goodwin:
but yeah. To death quote the dude.
[02:19:13] Duuude-Ron :
Did I miss something?
[02:19:16] Bryan Goodwin:
Yeah. Y'all were just talking along like y'all both knew exactly what you're talking about. I'm just sitting here going, yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's a lot of numbers and letters being spattered around, but that's all I've been able to pick up, man. I have no idea.
[02:19:32] Duuude-Ron :
Gee. Kinda like when you 2 are talking about all of this About video games or or or Or podcasting and Yeah. Well, I know a little bit about Big Point. No. But when you guys are talking about all this crap that you have to set up to run a freaking podcast, and I'm sitting here going,
[02:19:56] Bryan Goodwin:
oh, shit. It's all just clearing over my head. I have I have a very, very and when I say vague, I mean, I I understand antenna. After that, yeah, that like, you've lost me. Because I'm, like, going, why do you need to have why do you need to have only, like, 80 feet run out on the ground? Why did, you know, why don't you just set it right next to your house? It's the antenna part's the important part. You know? Why do you need the car aboard out there? So I'm like, yeah. That we're not making any sense on this one. So
[02:20:31] Rich Chelson:
I'm gonna try it to you guys. You see, you see, thing is this is I mean, I mean, I mean, honestly, this is actually really cool that that that, that a dude could understand what I was talking about. You know? Because it just is finding someone that that I don't know is is like laid back like us and, and I can talk like that with them. It, it, it just, I mean, I could talk all night long like that, you know? Right. Just because it is, you know? Yeah. When I talk to, you know, other ham operators and stuff like that, yeah. Yeah. We can talk, you know, about that stuff all night, you know, but, but when I find someone who, who is not a ham, but knows, knows about a lot of the stuff that I'm talking about, maybe not everything, I'm like, oh, fuck yeah. It's game on now.
[02:21:29] Duuude-Ron :
You know? I'm like,
[02:21:31] Bryan Goodwin:
hey. Somebody as dorky as me. Alright. Yeah. Right. Right. Hey, dude.
[02:21:36] Rich Chelson:
There's there's not many people as dorky as I am. Okay? Well, maybe there is, and I just haven't met him.
[02:21:44] Bryan Goodwin:
Well, other than that's just us too. It's just what we dork out about is just a complete completely different thing. So Right. Right. You're kinda the you're you're the you're the, the converter go from from that, that for me, it's it goes from me to you, and then you're the converter so that you can go from from you to Ron. So, you know
[02:22:09] Rich Chelson:
Right. Well, see, that's like that's like, well, Brian, me and you, I mean, we can go podcasting, Bitcoin, photography. You know, we can go Video games. Yeah. Video games. Yeah. We can go we can go down a lot of different directions. And, dude, you know, I I mean,
[02:22:27] Duuude-Ron :
you know, that was And what and what am I gonna do? Beside besides hear the, I'm just gonna take a nap.
[02:22:39] Bryan Goodwin:
I'll just take a nap.
[02:22:41] Duuude-Ron :
Take a nap, let you guys finish, wake up, and, you know, you're on to the next topic of conversation, and I might be able to follow it. I might not. And if I'm not able to, I'll take another nap. Yeah.
[02:22:57] Bryan Goodwin:
But So Yeah. But anyhow, looking at, looking at the time, looks like it's about time to start getting everything all rolled up. So, guys, I wanna say thank y'all very much for taking the time and have taking the opportunity to see and listen and hear what a what, 2 grumpy vets and a dude are talking about. As you can see, we just kinda branch and bury and meander and and and wander around. It's just whatever happens to be, at the top of our mind at the time. And so this is this is the show. Yeah. It's 2 and a half hours of a couple guys talking. And what that's what we're doing here is actually showing that guys need to have a community. We need to be have friends that we talk to on a regular basis for at least an hour. But, you know, if you can get 2, 3 hours into it, then that's even better.
And this is what we do. Every Thursday, we me, Rich, and and the dude, we all hop on. We have a conversation. We talk it out till about 10 o'clock. Then it's like, alright. Well, let's go go on ahead, pack it all up, and let's go to bed. Because, well, I'm I've gotta drive and and and the dude's gotta drive. And and Rich's gotta go check out the girls in bikinis down on the beach. So, you know, we've gotta we gotta do our stuff. And so, guys, with that, I wanna say thanks again because we're without you, we wouldn't be able to do this show. And that's why we are we talk about things like value for value so much. Because if it wasn't for value for value, if you look at well, heck, you look at radio stations. These these radio stations are falling apart. Why are they not being, being listened to as much? It's because they do so much dead gum entertain, advertisement.
There's a little lot less actual show being played as opposed to the, the actual, advertising that goes on out of a 30 minute show, it's something like only 20 minutes long. The actual show of all the times they break it all up because they've got their 10 minute sections, they got their 15 minute sections, and they've got another one about the, about the 25 minute mark. And there's all that area that that they'll have, you know, 5, 10 minutes worth of, of advertisements going on. And if you're like me, there's you catch any of that on on a podcast, you're going, oh, Jesus Christ, man. Now, you know, how many times do you have to hit fast forward before you get to the actual meat of the show?
And that's why we decided to go for value for value. Value for value is just the value you think you we you deserve. What do you think we deserve? You pay it out, and we are grateful for anything that you send to us. And so we're we use a, podcast 2.0 as a means. You can always send us a boostogram, leave us a message with it, and we would be glad to hear what you have to say and and reply to it and have that feedback loop going on because that's something you don't normally get from a, from a normal show. You may get a you may hear what, the other person says. You may read an email, and away we go, and that's all there is to it. May make a comment or 2, and it's done until you decide to reply.
While podcasting 2.0, you can actually make the comment. We can actually receive it on there and then turn around and read read it back. But, but we're always looking for other ways of being able to or do value for value. So if you're not able to do do treasure, we also have things that are available for time and treasure time and talent. So if you're able to do, do, video graphic or not video graphics, but but do graphic design. We've got you know, we'd love to have someone set up and start creating a a podcast art, the cover art for us, or the chapter art, things like that. It'd be great to be able to see that, be able to see what everybody comes up with and let y'all all beat it out and say see who wins out, use that as the winner. But then there's also if you wanna be able to help us out in other ways with the show, all you have to do is reach out to us. You can send an email over to rich over at rchelson. That's [email protected], or you can send an email over to me at that [email protected].
Love to hear what y'all have to say because, guys, this is a this is just a good time. We're all get together just so that we're able to enjoy the company of each other, be able to bounce ideas, thoughts, concerns off of each other and and have and and have that opportunity to live life intentionally. So with that, Ron, what do you have to say for the night?
[02:27:57] Duuude-Ron :
The one thing that I usually say, is our veterans. Again, the 3 of us are very of the veteran suicide rate, which is more than 22 a day. If you know a veteran out there that is going through a hard time, you know, talk to them, reach out to them, to have them reach out to somebody that they can talk to because you listening or getting them the resources that will listen to them may just be that factor of why they did why they did not commit suicide. So, again, if you know a vet out up there that is going through a hard time, you know, connect with them, listen, and by all means, get them the support that they may need.
[02:28:59] Bryan Goodwin:
Rich, how about you? What do you got for your end for your final shots?
[02:29:04] Rich Chelson:
Not too much really, I guess. I'm just, I'm just really, really happy, which I'm gonna be happy for a while and everything. And, but now thank you. I just wanna thank everybody for listening and sharing this out and and all. Cause I mean, we, I mean, we do this just because we do this, but, you know, you know, if you find, you know, if, if it makes you laugh, groan, cry, scream, yell, whatever, share it out. You know, cause, you might like us. You might not like us. We're not for everybody. I will tell you that sometimes we are, we are an acquired taste. I don't know why I just Very true.
But either way though, we're, we're honest, we're caring and yeah, we, yeah, we definitely wanna show everybody that it is possible to have have a relationship and to sit and just chit chat and take your mind off your life. You know, you can sit and bitch about it if you want. That's why we do this. We we try and solve the world's problems. You know? Whether we do or not, that's that's really not the goal. We just like to talk about it and be grumpy. You know? That's that's like our goal in life is to be grumpy. So
[02:30:32] Bryan Goodwin:
It is fun. It is very fun to be grumpy.
[02:30:35] Rich Chelson:
It is. It is. You know? I mean and and, yes, you can be happy and grumpy at the same time.
[02:30:43] Bryan Goodwin:
It is very possible. And I yeah. To watch people get confused over that.
[02:30:48] Duuude-Ron :
It it is. I Just just physically look at Rich and Brian and and you'll you'll see why. You every time they bring their cover art up and you see Brian and Rich's mugs, that is classic grumpy.
[02:31:09] Rich Chelson:
But, yeah, anyway, that's, that's just, you know, yeah. Thank you for listening and, share us out. Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your mom and them we don't give a damn. So y'all take care and have a good week, and we'll see you next week.
[02:31:25] Bryan Goodwin:
So alright, guys. Y'all thanks a lot again for listening. Rich, dude, appreciate y'all both coming on and having a have wonderful talks that we did. And, we'll see y'all next week. So till then, bye.
[02:31:39] Duuude-Ron :
Later. Have a great week. See you.
Introduction and Welcome
Dealing with the Heat
Housework and Daily Chores
Moving and Storage Unit Adventures
Hot Water Heater Troubles
Buying a Zero Turn Mower
Pecan Trees and Pecan Pies
Shrimp Po'boys and Local Cuisine
Unpacking and Settling In
Military Pay and Living Conditions
YouTube and Content Creation
Travel Sports and Youth Activities
Sports as a Religion
Economic Lessons from the Great Depression
Electric Vehicles and Infrastructure
Road Quality and Construction
Antenna Setup and Ham Radio
Closing Remarks and Value for Value