Two Grumpy Vets and a Duuude

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In this week's episode of "2 Grumpy Vets," we dive into the art of intentional living through weekly conversations among friends. Join Bryan, Rich, and the Dude as they explore the importance of social commentary, humor, and camaraderie in helping men become better versions of themselves.

The episode kicks off with a light-hearted discussion about morning routines and the simple pleasures of a fried egg sandwich. The conversation then shifts to the challenges of home improvement projects, specifically the trials and tribulations of setting up an antenna mast. Rich shares his research journey, from digging holes to finding military-grade poles on eBay, and the intricacies of setting up a stable structure.

The trio also delves into the world of military antennas, reminiscing about their experiences with OE 254 antennas and the technicalities of setting up a reliable communication system. The discussion is peppered with humor and anecdotes, making for an engaging and informative segment.

As the conversation unfolds, the hosts touch on various topics, including language learning, the quirks of different cultures, and the nostalgia of hometown eateries. The episode wraps up with a fun hypothetical question: "What would you do to make money if you got $50 every time you were rejected?" This leads to a lively brainstorming session filled with creative and humorous ideas.

Join us for an episode that blends humor, technical insights, and the joy of friendship, reminding us all of the value of intentional conversations.

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[00:00:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 Grumpy events. And, indeed, this is a show that each week allows for 3 friends to get together and live life intentionally.   We do this by throwing a little social commentary   with our own weird sense of humor and our thoughts together   to show folks that living   having weekly conversations   is a good way to help   each other out, help men become better men. And so now on with the show with Brian, Rich, and the dude.  

[00:00:34] Rich Chelson:

And, how's   mister Rich today?  

[00:00:39] Duuude-Ron :

I realized   before I woke the fuck up this morning that my ass wasn't doing nothing.  

[00:00:48] Rich Chelson:

I didn't even get that fucking shit. Doctor. You didn't get up, you know, you're like already wiped out. I was like, fuck this.  

[00:00:54] Duuude-Ron :

Doctor. Dude,   I'm telling you. Yeah. You're right. I mean, I barely opened my eyes and I even, even before I   even went, went to sat up in my bed, I was like, oh, hell   no.   God dang. Uh-uh. So yeah.   Yeah. Other than that, you know, I'm good. I I didn't I didn't do a damn thing today.   Well, yeah, I did. I I well, it's just  

[00:01:27] Bryan Goodwin:

You didn't do much of a damn thing.  

[00:01:30] Duuude-Ron :

Pretty much. Pretty much.   I I did have I did have fried egg sandwiches this morning for breakfast. Hey. Hey. There's nothing wrong with good fried egg sandwich.   Right. Right. And it's it'd been a while since I had fried egg sandwiches. So Oh, yeah.   I was like, okay. I'm I'm good. But yeah. And,   you know, well, like, like, I was talking last night about, you know, the antenna and maybe going to Home Depot and all like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I knew I knew that wasn't gonna happen. And then then I got to doing some research and, yeah, totally gave up on that whole idea because I know digging a hole   and mounting a 4 by 4 post with concrete   was probably gonna kick my ass for about 2 weeks. So I'm like, yeah. I'm not doing that much.  



[00:02:20] Bryan Goodwin:

So I so why do you need a 4 foot by 4 foot hole?  

[00:02:26] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no. I I was   that just didn't sound right.   It just did,   but   That's like it sound.   Yeah. It's our dude.  

[00:02:40] Rich Chelson:

You're joking?   A 4 by   you you   you understood that as a 4 by 4 foot hole?   Brian?   Yeah. Wow.   Okay. No. It's a 4 by 4 piece of wood.   Yeah. And then Post. Like a fence   fence post.  

[00:03:00] Bryan Goodwin:

And then drill the hole. There we go. Alright. Now that we're all on the same sheet of music, maybe that So he was talking about con and concrete, and I was like, oh, what do you need a 4 foot by 4 foot hole? I mean, goddamn, man. Well, now hold on. Actually, actually,  

[00:03:16] Duuude-Ron :

if if you put up a tower,   I mean, I'm talking,   like a TV tower or something like that or, you know, like the tires you see out in the   out in the fields that are guide off and, you know, they they hold cell phone antennas and shit like that. Yeah. Yeah. Those those holes are probably 10 foot by 10 foot in the bottom. Oh, yeah. That I understand.   Well, the thing is, though, with the tower even like here,   if   if I was to run a tower that was 50 foot,   I would have to make a,   minimum   3 foot by 3 foot by   5 foot.   If not the end,   probably even go 6 feet deep   for for the mast or for the tower.  

But   what I   what I was gonna do, I was gonna   take the   44 foot by   not 4 foot. She got me off   now, Brian.   The,   the,  

[00:04:18] Bryan Goodwin:

Just a 4 by 4 piece of wood. Yeah. Mhmm. I was There we go. 8 foot long.  

[00:04:24] Duuude-Ron :

I was gonna dig a hole 18 inches,   put the post in there, and then fill it with concrete.   Right?  

[00:04:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Okay. Yeah. So, like, you were making a normal, like, putting a putting a piece of wood in the for a fence. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha.  

[00:04:39] Duuude-Ron :

Basically.   And then I was gonna attach that mast,   to that piece of 4 by 4.   Okay. The the, bottom part of the mast and then run it up and then,   use guys and,   see a guy at off,   you know, the further up I went.   And so I got to thinking about it, and I'm like,   I really don't wanna dig that fucking hole. Even though even though in my yard, it probably would be really freaking easy because I've got a lot of sand in my yard.  

[00:05:17] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:05:17] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. And, I mean, it wouldn't be too hard, but   after I woke up this morning like I did, I'm like, yeah. Yeah. That ain't happening.   I'm like,   that's probably not good. So   so I was sitting here thinking about it and I I was going back and forth between everything   and then something popped into my head. And and I had looked at other options   and,   that that had gone fleeting through my mind.   And I was like, oh, shit. There's eBay.   Let me look on eBay.   And I looked on eBay.   Oh, damn.   I found I found something really, really good that makes life a whole lot easier, and I can still achieve what I want.   Hey. Yeah. Well,   now   since you were Navy, Brian, I don't I don't know if you've seen them and you might have. I know I know dude's seen them and messed with them. I know I've messed with them and seen them.  

But,   the, military has either fiberglass   or   aluminum,   posts, 4 foot posts.   Right?  

[00:06:31] Bryan Goodwin:

K.  

[00:06:31] Duuude-Ron :

And   and so they're they're 4 foot each.   And,   you put them together, and   you can,   shit, hold up camo netting.   You   could make an antenna mast out of them. There's there's just   they're just versatile.   You can use them Okay. For a lot of stuff.   And, I   I had looked these up, you know, I don't know.   I guess, last year or something when I was at Missouri and I, you know, and I was like, no. That's too expensive. I ain't doing that. Goddamn. No. I ain't doing that.   Well, I got to looking at them and I'm like, you know, I think I wanna do that.   Well, yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. But   trying to find it for the right price because   most of the ones I was seeing   were, like, $25 a pole.  

And I'm like, for a used   military poll. No.   Ain't happening.   Well,   I found this other guy on eBay   that,   he sells   brand new ones  

[00:07:41] Bryan Goodwin:

Correct.  

[00:07:44] Duuude-Ron :

For $10 a pole.   I was like, sign me the hell up.   And   the other reason why I was looking for a lower price is because shipping on these things is a motherfucker.   Oh, yeah. The there's a dude in New Orleans that sells on eBay. He's the one that sells them for $25 a pole. Right?  

[00:08:10] Bryan Goodwin:

K.  

[00:08:11] Duuude-Ron :

You can order   you know,   he sells them in lots of 10.   So   you can buy   10 4 foot poles   for $250   plus an extra 75 for shipping.  

[00:08:28] Bryan Goodwin:

And 75 for shipping.  

[00:08:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. And I did.   In fact in fact, this guy on eBay that I found,   it was 120 or 119 for 12 poles.   And and the, the shipping   I was able to get the shipping down to 68.   So, yeah, it's it's yeah. And, see, that's the thing. You know? If if,   if the guy in New Orleans   wasn't so expensive,   I'd have bought them from him and said, yo, dude. I'll be there tomorrow and pick them up. You know?   Right.   I mean, shit. I mean, literally, I'm like an hour and a half, 2 hours away from the islands.   So,   yeah, I I mean, I can say I won't spend $73,   you know, to ship them. So   but but also on this guy that that I ordered these from,   this dude had something. I and I didn't know the military had this,   but it's a it's a plate   with a, like, 2 foot long spike on the bottom of it. Okay? And you shove that in the ground,   and it has a little thing that sticks up where the   mask can go into,   and it tilts.  



[00:09:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay. So  

[00:09:48] Duuude-Ron :

so I can put all this together on the ground,   run   run my guy wires.   You know? Right.   Because,   my guys, I've got them spaced at 36 feet from the center.   So when I get up to 40,   I'll be up to about 42 foot.   My,   they'll be angling out   to 36 feet, so they'll   put the right amount of pressure   on the on the mast.   Right. But,   I'm sitting here thinking, I could put all this together on the ground   and then walk it up myself. The only thing is is I gotta figure out how to keep it tight   or   kinda tight,   which I've I think I've got that figured out. I mean, that's   that's neither and and   this guy also had a, topper thing   you can put on on the top mast.  

And it comes with a pulley, so I can hook up my antenna before   I can basically hook everything up   pretty much before I ever get the antenna   or the mast fully up.   Oh, well, that's good. Yeah. I was like  

[00:11:07] Rich Chelson:

Hey. You do   realize What? You do realize that's an o e 254   antenna,   type thing. Right?   I know the poles that you're using. Those are the poles used for spreaders for the netting.   If you got if   and I know   Rich was out in the field many times,   but those are the poles that they use for the spreaders with the nets.   Right? Mhmm. Are are those the poles you're getting?  

[00:11:40] Duuude-Ron :

Well, the well, you see,   see, when I was in a 120 for a suit on the battalion,   we also used them for,  

[00:11:52] Rich Chelson:

antennas. Oh, okay. We we used the aluminum ones for the 0 e 254.   And because that had the   attachments for   the, rigging system   at halfway and at the top   Yeah. And then you put your guide wires. But that that tilting   thing that you said for the base   Mhmm. That that's the base for   08254   antenna.  

[00:12:21] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Well,   I saw that and I said, yeah. I need I need one of those.   So  

[00:12:31] Rich Chelson:

Now you said your ground was sand.   Now is it when it goes down, is it hard packed sand or is it still   kinda loose?  

[00:12:42] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. I can I can shove a tent stake in by hand all the way down?   So   I can So your  

[00:12:51] Rich Chelson:

So your ground's pretty loose?  

[00:12:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I mean I mean, once I get further down, it tightens up and it doesn't let stuff move. But   but, yeah, for like 10 steaks, I I can normally   push them in by hand or by my foot. I don't need a hammer.  

[00:13:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You probably   here's my suggestion for your stakes for your guide guide rope   Mhmm. Is they have,   fiberglass   stakes that have a   corkscrew   style at the bottom   so you can screw it into the ground. And, I mean, the ones that I have,   they're like,   well, they're probably at least 9 inches long.   But the fact that it corkscrews   down in,   that's where it's getting its grip at.  

[00:13:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's yeah. I've got I've got a set of, 18 inch with the corkscrew  

[00:13:54] Rich Chelson:

coming. Oh, okay.  

[00:13:55] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, okay. Yeah. And I had yeah. No. Say on this you say the thing is this   this fiberglass mask is not gonna weigh much.  

[00:14:07] Rich Chelson:

No. It doesn't.  

[00:14:09] Duuude-Ron :

But   but I'm still not gonna trust it to,   you know, a little   8, 9 inch   tent stake.   You know? Because   my Right.   On on the guy wires   for my top guy ring,   I'm looking at 5056,   57 feet   of cordage.   You know? So   so I'm I'm a need to cinch it up a little bit. So so, that's why I went with the longer,   and and a corkscrew.  

[00:14:48] Rich Chelson:

So Yeah.   So what do you gotta   now I   your best bet, if you can find them,   would be 08254   guide ropes because they come with the clips, they come with the   cinching,   apparatus for the rope.  

[00:15:09] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   they're,   I'm I'm gonna use 550 cord   because,   it doesn't stretch that much. Believe it or not, it doesn't.   And when it gets wet, it gets tighter.   But I also got some,   rope centers that are,   what are they called? They're called   it's   shark teeth   that that when you run it through and   run it back through, it it it just   it digs into the line.  

[00:15:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Oh, I know what you're talking about.  

[00:15:50] Duuude-Ron :

So   so yeah. That's   yeah. No. I did I did my measurements on my on my guy wires, and and, I'm a guy in it in 4 places.   It's probably Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.  

[00:16:05] Rich Chelson:

What are you using as,   points at the poles?  

[00:16:11] Duuude-Ron :

This guy also sells,   steel,   guy rings for these poles.  

[00:16:18] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Yeah. Same thing that would come with an 08254.  

[00:16:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Yeah. So Yep. I'm just gonna   I'm just gonna tie to those and,   just run the 3 stakes and and attach everything to the,   you know, the 3 4 lines,   the different heights, all to one stake.  

[00:16:40] Rich Chelson:

Well, you said you're gonna do 3 lines?  

[00:16:46] Duuude-Ron :

Well, the 3   tie down system, not the 4.  

[00:16:50] Rich Chelson:

I would high I would highly suggest that you do a a 4 tie down.   That's just Ron's opinion. So when you're   raising it up,   you have the 2 on the side   that's gonna keep your antenna from   going side to side. And then when you get it up, that 4th one is going to be what stops it when it gets to   your straight point up in the air.  

[00:17:18] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, if I set the 4   well, if I set it 4, they'll be, 90 degrees from each other.  

[00:17:25] Rich Chelson:

Yes.  

[00:17:26] Duuude-Ron :

If I run this, so   maybe   maybe I'm not understanding what you're meaning by  

[00:17:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well,   instead of having 3, you have 4 at 90.   That so when you when you do raise it,   yeah, you're gonna have 4 points, but you're gonna have more stability.  

[00:17:53] Duuude-Ron :

Well, see, that's the thing. I I mean, with the 3,   I was, you know,   run one straight out,   you know, and then run the other 2   120 degrees.   And   I'm I'm gonna have all the lines hooked up because   because the top,   guy ring, like I said, is,   about 55 feet long   is the wire, and and the bottom one is,   37   feet   out.   So   or 37 feet long,   give or take.   So   so when I get those bottom ones up   and and I've got my ladder. I was gonna raise it up a little bit and   then kinda cinch my bottom ones up, keep them tight as I walk it up.   And then when I stand it up,   those 3 will hold   that whole thing, you know, as long as the wind's not blowing while I get the others tightened up.  

Because that's that's normally what I do on my, 10 meter mast   because I've got one that   stays up. It's tied, you know, it's guide down, and it's it's only guide in one place.   So in there Okay. Well  

[00:19:18] Rich Chelson:

well, 6 of this, half a dozen of another. Yeah. You could do 3 points at a 120 degrees, you know. Yeah. That's  

[00:19:27] Duuude-Ron :

On sea   seeing that's a you know, that's the thing, you know, for, like, you know, later on,   you know, I can always change it too.  

[00:19:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:19:38] Duuude-Ron :

You know, I I I can always add a 4th because it's not hard   to pull one,   steak up and then move it over to   where I need to and then,   add another stake. So  

[00:19:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You'll just have to bring it all the way back down to add your guide wires or your guide ropes. Yeah.  

[00:20:01] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But but, see, with that   tiltable base,   it'll be a lot easier to do.  

[00:20:08] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah.   So Yeah. You won't have any slip from the bottom.  

[00:20:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And that's yeah.  

[00:20:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. There's The the hardest the hardest thing is going to be   having enough   energy   to raise it up.  

[00:20:30] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:20:31] Rich Chelson:

I don't know. I don't know how much your   your,   component for the antenna   and your,   you know, you,   and your actual antenna   hoist. Weigh nothing. It don't weigh nothing. Heavy that is? Oh, okay. Yeah. No. It So now you remember an o e 254 had 3 going down   and 3 going up.  

[00:21:00] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:21:01] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   What does   what configuration   is yours?  

[00:21:07] Duuude-Ron :

Mine's a wire antenna.  

[00:21:11] Rich Chelson:

Oh, so it's just one   one antenna that goes up that you're putting it that attaches to your   antenna itself.  

[00:21:22] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. This yeah. This is just,   what I'm gonna do with this pulley   is run a, about a 100 foot long rope   and run it down. I'm gonna tie   the rope to   one part of the antenna   and actually leave it on the ground while I'm raising this mast up   and then get it all tightened up, then I'm gonna use a pulley and pull the antenna or yeah. Pull the wire up   and then stretch it out to make it look like a triangle.  

[00:21:55] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:21:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:21:59] Rich Chelson:

Make sure you, make sure you, use a drip   a drip loop   For when you do, like,   For shits and giggles?   A drip? I don't know.   Yeah.   So you're not so you don't have,   what like, again, with the 08254   when we put those up   And with the,   antenna   head,   you had to put a drip what's called a drip loop,   just a small loop so that you are not putting the weight of the cable   at the connector   of the antenna.   Oh, no. Make a small loop   to take that tension off of,   you know, that connector.  

[00:22:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. No. See, that's the thing. I won't have any.   No. Up top,   there is no there's   there's no   coax attachment up top. It it'll be on the on the corner, on the right corner   near the ground. So   so it won't it won't,   up top, it won't affect anything.  

[00:23:12] Rich Chelson:

Okay. But just   as a suggestion,   look at the weight of that cable and how good that antenna base is.   And just that that drip loop, all it does is take the weight   of the main cable off the connector.   Even though on a 08254,   yes, it's a   a coax connect   point,   but I don't know how much that cable weighs and if that would do any damage or even over time,   you know, start to, put stress on that antenna head.  

[00:23:54] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. No. Yeah. Okay. Okay.   The head of my antenna   will be down towards the ground and over to the right about 40 feet   away from the mast.   You understand what I mean?  

[00:24:14] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So here's gonna be another real stupid question. Why not put your antenna on the top of the mast?  

[00:24:22] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I am. The,   point   up top of the triangle  

[00:24:27] Rich Chelson:

Uh-huh.  

[00:24:28] Duuude-Ron :

Is just a piece of wire. I'm feeding it from the bottom right corner   of the triangle.   You understand what I mean?  

[00:24:42] Rich Chelson:

Not a fucking clue.  

[00:24:44] Duuude-Ron :

Okay, dude. Think of a really big fucking triangle. I'm talking huge.   Okay?  

[00:24:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Like a pyramid.   Got it. Thank you. Or Christmas tree.   Gotcha.  

[00:24:57] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   The bottom right.   That's where I'm feeding it at.   That's where that's where the coax and and and all of the matching unit and everything will be   at is at the bottom right. It won't be near the mast.  

[00:25:14] Rich Chelson:

Bottom right of what?  

[00:25:19] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   You're looking at the Christmas tree. Right?  

[00:25:23] Rich Chelson:

Yes.  

[00:25:24] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   The bottom right.   As you're looking at the Christmas tree, you know, the tip top that has the angel or the star on it?  

[00:25:35] Rich Chelson:

Yes. There's your that's your antenna.  

[00:25:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. Well  

[00:25:40] Rich Chelson:

well So you're   so you're gonna bring your coax   down one of your,   guide ropes?  

[00:25:50] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[00:25:51] Rich Chelson:

No. Okay. I'm yeah. Now I'm really fucking confused.  

[00:25:56] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[00:25:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. You're making this entirely too damn difficult.  

[00:26:02] Duuude-Ron :

No, dude. No. Jeez.   Wow.   No. No. It's simple. It's  

[00:26:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Then I'm fucking lost like a motherfucker. I can I can pitch in only 254?  

[00:26:16] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Clear as day. Okay. Hang on here. Let me,   shit. I got  

[00:26:24] Rich Chelson:

Draw me a stick figure picture  

[00:26:27] Duuude-Ron :

and post it. I'm working on it.  

[00:26:30] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   I am working on it.   You are making shit entirely too damn difficult.   Yeah. I mean Or your ex or your explanation   is entirely too damn difficult.   Now your now your objective may be perfect.  

[00:26:47] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:26:48] Rich Chelson:

You know?   But the way you are explaining it, I am so   fucking lost.   I'm   you know,   you got me in the middle of motherfucking desert.  

[00:27:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wait. Hang on. Does does,   we don't have the whiteboard anymore, do we? Right.   Yeah. We do.  

[00:27:13] Bryan Goodwin:

I need to activate it for you?  

[00:27:16] Duuude-Ron :

No. For a while.  

[00:27:22] Bryan Goodwin:

Zoom was starting screen sharing. Oh, you had it. Pinch out for a bigger view.  

[00:27:27] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Hang on.   Okay.  

[00:27:30] Bryan Goodwin:

There's a little pen.   Going down. Okay. And this is great, great stuff for the for the podcast, guys. So, yeah, we've got a pole. It's got a really long pole with a line going straight out to the right.  

[00:27:45] Rich Chelson:

Where the fuck is it at?  

[00:27:48] Bryan Goodwin:

It's in the backyard.  

[00:27:51] Rich Chelson:

Oh my god.   No. The drawing.   I'm not seeing anything.  

[00:27:58] Bryan Goodwin:

It's on it's in Zoom.   I'm not being facetious this time. It's it's just   so it's nothing that I can see? You it should be able to see on Zoom.  

[00:28:11] Duuude-Ron :

You should. Because I'm on my I'm on my phone.  

[00:28:15] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So   yeah.   Where   where is it located?   Tap on the screen. I got the all the fucking icons down at the bottom.   Let's see. Participants,   chat, reactions,   share, record,   AI.  

[00:28:34] Bryan Goodwin:

K. And what does it say? For. Okay. Right. Above above all that, what is it showing?  

[00:28:41] Rich Chelson:

Not a damn thing.  

[00:28:43] Bryan Goodwin:

You're not having a picture of you, me,  

[00:28:46] Rich Chelson:

me talking? Yeah. And a black and a black. Okay. Slide  

[00:28:50] Bryan Goodwin:

slide   push tap in or not tap, but put your thumb in the middle of that screen   and slide it to the right side of the screen.  

[00:29:05] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[00:29:06] Bryan Goodwin:

There we go. Now I know where you're at.   Okay.   And so far, Rich has made What?   A Lost spot. So we've got a long pole. We got a, we got a line going out to the right. We have a   triangle. It looks like a bell with a stick of dynamite   setting off to the side.  

[00:29:29] Duuude-Ron :

No. Well, no. No. No. The bay  

[00:29:33] Bryan Goodwin:

That's not dynamite sticking off to the side. Okay. No. Dude But that looks like a fuse. It's running out, underneath and off to the right. Well, you know, I guess someone might think that. Yes. But it's not. It's it it is a,   good. Because I'd hate to see that,   the, you know, the ATF   come come by and pick you up for, for an antenna.  

[00:29:54] Duuude-Ron :

That would suck.  

[00:29:58] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So that drawing right there  

[00:30:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh. Is  

[00:30:04] Rich Chelson:

what what is your objective?   Okay. So you got the pole.   Right?   That's the blue. Am I correct?  

[00:30:13] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. You're correct.  

[00:30:15] Rich Chelson:

That's 40 somewhat feet up into the air. That's correct.   Okay.   What is that thing going to the right?  

[00:30:23] Duuude-Ron :

That is   that'll be a cap that goes on top of the pole   and comes out, and there's a pulley on the end of it out there so it keeps the antenna away from the mast.   Okay?   Okay.   Okay.   And then   what I'm gonna do is run a pulley rope,   but I'm gonna bring   the apex   of the triangle  

[00:30:53] Bryan Goodwin:

here.   That's the top. Okay.  

[00:30:56] Duuude-Ron :

Bring it to you know, bring it all the way up, And then I'm gonna stake off the left corner   and stake off the right corner. And this red box over here on the right corner,   that's my ballon   with my coax coming from my house. And I'm gonna feed   the antenna from there. This is called a delta loop.   And with it Okay. So okay.  

[00:31:21] Rich Chelson:

So you don't have   the only thing you're putting up there   is a wire?  

[00:31:29] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.  

[00:31:31] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:31:32] Duuude-Ron :

And now What not what type  

[00:31:35] Rich Chelson:

oh, I'm fucking yeah. I'm I'm   so far past confused right now. What is that?   I don't know.  

[00:31:44] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. You're just gonna ask   what type?   What type of what?  

[00:31:50] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   What   you don't have an antenna head. Correct?  

[00:31:59] Duuude-Ron :

That's the red box over here in the lower right hand corner.  

[00:32:02] Rich Chelson:

That's on the ground.  

[00:32:05] Duuude-Ron :

Well, it'll be off the ground, but, yes, it's but yes. As opposed to the Apex, yeah. It's basically on the ground.  

[00:32:12] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So   what wire   what type of wire is it   that you're putting up through that pulley?  

[00:32:21] Duuude-Ron :

Regular 14 gauge stranded wire.   Oh, same size same size you'd use to wire lights with or speakers with or anything in your car with.  

[00:32:33] Rich Chelson:

So that's gonna be that wire is gonna be your actual   antenna.  

[00:32:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yes, sir. Yep.  

[00:32:40] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Okay. I got a little bit better understanding.   Now   now let me ask you this.   Okay. That 40 that pole   that is going up in the air.   Mhmm. Right? How how high are you making that that mast?  

[00:33:00] Duuude-Ron :

It'll be,   when   when all the pieces are put together, it'll be about 45 feet high.  

[00:33:07] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So how are you going to secure that from falling?  

[00:33:13] Duuude-Ron :

I will show you.  

[00:33:16] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:33:18] Duuude-Ron :

Wait. Yeah. Hang on.   Alright.   I'm gonna put   Sky Rings.  

[00:33:25] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Yeah. Okay. I got you.   Uh-huh.   Yeah. They're just like an 0 8254 antenna guide rings. Yep. Go or guidelines going down. Okay. I understand that. So how many guidelines are you going to have?  

[00:33:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, 3 or 4? Well, 17 and 3 quarters,   probably.  

[00:33:51] Duuude-Ron :

No. Say 3,   3 on each ring, but I've got 4 rings. So I've got 12 lines total.   Oh, okay.   So Oh. So yeah. And and plus   plus with this base   like this that that has  

[00:34:10] Rich Chelson:

a tilt over Yeah. That goes in the Yeah. Yeah. That goes into the ground and then has the, plate that you can stake down as well.  

[00:34:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And then Yeah. Then has a tilt. So   yeah. I I mean, I'm I'm a have a guide,   you know,   you know, 12 times.   So I got a feeling Right. Yes. Yes. Got a feeling I ought to be pretty good.  

[00:34:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, with those light poles   and having 4 tie down rings,   yeah, it'll be pretty secure.   Now   what I was thinking,   you remember what a complete o e 254 antenna looked like. Right? Yes.   Okay. Your red box, it's close to the ground.   Uh-huh. That right there, I thought was gonna be on the top   of your   mast, of your poles.  

[00:35:04] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:35:05] Rich Chelson:

And then the cable, like an 0 e 254,   coming down and being attached to   the pole. See what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. But you're okay.  

[00:35:15] Duuude-Ron :

And and see and see, Ron,   if if, I was gonna put this red box up top there, you're right. Uh-huh. I   yeah. I would   make a loop or something to,   so as not   to stretch the coax tight.   That's what I was saying. That's the drip loop. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'd have done that because I can feed it. I can feed it from the top here.  

[00:35:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:35:43] Duuude-Ron :

I can feed it right dead center if I want   or I can feed it anywhere, actually. But   I chose to feed it here   because   in this configuration,   it acts more like   a vertical antenna,   which,   say a vertical antenna,   it transmits.   It normally transmits out like this   and then shoots out.   And, I mean, it it does real good.   But and and this will do   kind of like this except, though, in a   whole lot bigger.  

[00:36:23] Rich Chelson:

Nope.   Alright.   Right. So it's still gonna be an omnidirectional   instead of a directional antenna   with your 2, with your 2   wire lines.  

[00:36:36] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right. No.   Now if I would have fed it up top here  

[00:36:42] Rich Chelson:

Mhmm.  

[00:36:44] Duuude-Ron :

Then I would have had a, a directional,   broadside.   So   in other words, if I hung it   and faced the triangle   east and west,   I would   I would,   transmit   east and west.   I would be broadside to the side of the antenna.   Oh, okay. That's why that's why I chose to feed it down in the corner here is to go   more vertical.   I'll still get some broad side off of it,   but it'll be mostly vertical.  

[00:37:20] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:37:21] Duuude-Ron :

So  

[00:37:23] Rich Chelson:

Now I now I am less confused.  

[00:37:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's good. I am glad.  

[00:37:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. Nothing worse than having a confused dude.  

[00:37:35] Rich Chelson:

That's right.   So are you going to   attach   your wire as your antenna   at your base point   for your guide ropes.  

[00:37:53] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. Say that again.  

[00:37:57] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So you have that triangle. Right?   Mhmm.   Okay. Down at the the bottom of the or the bottom of the one,   are you going to attach that at the point of where one of your guide ropes is coming down? Oh,  

[00:38:16] Duuude-Ron :

1.   No. Actually,   this will be   this will be   sit us,   sitting with its own   own,   steak,   and   this will be sitting with its own steak.  

[00:38:38] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[00:38:40] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Now I'm I'm gonna stretch this   separate of the guy wires.  

[00:38:46] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[00:38:47] Duuude-Ron :

So and see the thing is with this here,  

[00:38:51] Rich Chelson:

how far is that box off gonna be off the ground?  

[00:38:56] Duuude-Ron :

Probably 2 to 4 feet.  

[00:38:59] Rich Chelson:

I would still create a drip loop just in case.   And why I say that is, 1, even though it's 2 to 4 feet   off the ground,   you're 1 still taking the stress off of the connector point   for the cable and your antenna box.   Right. And number 2,   you're also creating a   slack point. So if you go out into your yard and you'd say you trip over or catch your foot on   your coax,   it's not gonna pull out of the box. See what I'm saying?  

[00:39:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. No. No. I see that. I see that.   Yeah. I'll look at it once I get get to that point. Yeah. I might I might do some I mean, I've   I'm fixing to feed it with a 100 foot of coax,   and I got a feeling I'm gonna have quite a bit left over.   So,   yeah, making it loose to where it's not   even   putting any strain on on the   on the connection point.   I'll just yeah. I'll look at it when I,   get,   stretch it out   because, yeah, that's the thing. Because, I mean,   you know,   I want this thing to hold up in the wind and shit like that, you know, like hurricane season next year.  

[00:40:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:40:26] Duuude-Ron :

That's why that's why I'm   I'm running as, many guy wires as I am.   Hopefully hopefully, it'll hold up to at least 60 or 80 mile an hour winds, I'm hoping.   But, see, another reason why I'm doing this is because on, like like, this side   and this side   and the other side and then the top,   I can run other antennas   off off off the same mast   and just run them out different ways.   Like like, I can run an inverted v over here   or a fan dipole,   and then,  

[00:41:09] Rich Chelson:

you know So are you gonna put all your,   say, your pulleys and all your other stuff   up at the top before you erect it,   or   you're just gonna take it down if you want to adjust whatever you're doing?  

[00:41:26] Duuude-Ron :

I'll just probably take it down.   Oh, okay. It's because right now, my goal because I've been talking about it, you know, and and   you you asked me about it last night, and but I've been wanting to get this antenna up for a while now.   And   so I wanna get this thing up, and and I'm I wanna play with it. I wanna see because everything I've read   and all like that is supposed to be really good.   You know?   This is supposed to be a really good antenna.   And so   I'm wanting to,   figure out,   is it a really good antenna?   So that's why I'm just   I'm just putting up the delta loop for now.  

And then if I get another wild ass idea,   I've got everything here.   I just have to attach,   you know, another wire and another piece of coag.  

[00:42:24] Rich Chelson:

You know, what will be the funniest   damn thing   once you tell me that this has happened,   I will laugh my ass off   that   while you were mowing your yard,   you went underneath your guide wire   with the lawnmower   and choked yourself   because you didn't see the guide wire.   I am waiting for that I am waiting for that day that you tell me that that I went   Yeah. And hung myself with the fucking guide wire when I was mowing my grass.   Yeah. I'm I'm a fucking laugh at you so hard.  

[00:43:06] Duuude-Ron :

I know.   But but, hopefully, because I was doing it with with my other mess,   my, my 10 meter mess that I got   up at my at my weather station. I I have up just across from   from that one.   I got smart I I use my weed eater.   I've got a little battery powered weed eater. I actually kinda like that fucker.  

[00:43:31] Rich Chelson:

And Right. I go Yeah. Okay.  

[00:43:34] Duuude-Ron :

And and you see, I've got I've got these,   these, other 2,   you know, guide   themselves.   So instead of   taking everything down, moving everything, and putting everything back up,   I go through and weed eat all that first.   So this way, when I use the mower, I don't have to go anywhere near there because I'm afraid I would clothesline myself.  

[00:43:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You're gonna you regardless, you will clothesline yourself. I guarantee it.  

[00:44:04] Duuude-Ron :

I I might.  

[00:44:06] Rich Chelson:

As as god makes little green apple,   I guarantee you're gonna clothesline yourself   without a doubt.   Oh, yeah. You might wanna get you might wanna get some, like, they have the real it's about an inch wide,   and it's they're plastic   or yeah. Just real thin plastic,   guide tape.  

[00:44:28] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Like like a trail tape?  

[00:44:31] Rich Chelson:

Like a trail tape. Yeah. I would attach, like, 3   of those   onto each one of your lines   to give you a visual point so you don't hang yourself.  

[00:44:46] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, that honestly, I was thinking about that today,   and and I do have trail tape. So   so,   I probably will do that. Yes. Just because of that right there. Because I know me trying to walk out in the backyard, and I'm not paying attention. And my brain is   scrolling off onto something, and I just walk right into a damn  

[00:45:09] Rich Chelson:

skywire. You're gonna you're gonna fucking do it regardless.   I I can already see it. You're walking around your yard. It's like, yeah. I'm gonna get this over here done.   And all of a sudden, you're choking yourself because,   yeah, you just had no clue as to where the guide wire was. Yep.   Trust me. You know how many times I have taken myself out with a guide rope from an o e 254 antenna?  

[00:45:36] Duuude-Ron :

Quite a few times.  

[00:45:38] Rich Chelson:

Quite a few times.   Yes.   Then you know what? No. We didn't have any, you know,   focal points like the the trail tape.  

[00:45:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But  

[00:45:50] Rich Chelson:

you fucking knew it was there.   Yeah. And you still   close lined yourself   Mhmm. Like an idiot.   Thank goodness we did not have cell phones   back then.  

[00:46:05] Duuude-Ron :

Oh my god. Right? Right? Because they did pictures.   There is no Yeah. It didn't happen.  

[00:46:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. No. No pictures. No proof.  

[00:46:15] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. That's right.   But yeah. No. That's   that's what I'm trying to accomplish right there. So   Okay.  

[00:46:26] Rich Chelson:

Well, that makes it a little bit you're gonna have so many freaking points on the ground, you know, especially if you make that broad   broad angle one on the left   as well as the one you're creating on the right.  

[00:46:40] Duuude-Ron :

Mhmm.  

[00:46:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. You're gonna have so many points on the ground. It's not even gonna be funny, is it? No.   Okay.  

[00:46:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Actually, it's gonna be hilarious.  

[00:46:52] Duuude-Ron :

Why is that?  

[00:46:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Just watching you try to dodge everything.   Yeah. Because you gotta remember your neighbors aren't gonna see the guide wires   that you're dodging. So you're looking like a tweaked out tweaked out dude at a backyard,   switching, ducking, juking, and everything else.  

[00:47:15] Duuude-Ron :

They're gonna call it a po po because they think I'm I'm I'm I'm cracked out.   All jacked up on Mountain Dewey, man.  

[00:47:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So so instead of having   4 guide,   guide rope points, yeah, you if you do 3,   you're gonna   it's   1 25%   less chance   that you're gonna clothesline yourself. Yeah.  

[00:47:45] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:47:46] Rich Chelson:

With having 3 instead of 4.   Yep.   Uh-huh.  

[00:47:51] Duuude-Ron :

But see, the thing is, though, altogether, I'm gonna have 12   12 chances   to clothesline   myself.  

[00:48:01] Rich Chelson:

It,   it's gonna happen.   I I could yeah. Mhmm.   I can picture it now. And I hope I'm down there when it happens   because, by god, I'm not just gonna get pictures.   I'm going to get video.   Right. And I'm not gonna tell you that the line is there. When you're fixing to walk into it, I'm not gonna tell you, hey. You got a line. You I'm gonna get out the phone and start a video.   Yeah. You just So as you're as you got walking up, you're gonna  

[00:48:31] Duuude-Ron :

go.   Yeah. That's what you're gonna do. Yeah. Do a TikTok video that that whack fuck. No   kidding.  

[00:48:44] Bryan Goodwin:

I didn't get a whack buck. Fuck.  

[00:48:48] Duuude-Ron :

But yeah, no, that's,   yeah. This is this is my goal. And then   I should be good   within to I mean,   I mean, I still want a hex beam, but that's gonna be a couple years down the line   because   I've gotta buy a tower for it,   I think. I I don't know. I'm not I'm not even think this this is my   this is my project right now.   Alright.  

[00:49:17] Rich Chelson:

So Alright. So you purchased the poles.   Did you purchase the base yet?  

[00:49:23] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. The poles, the base,   the guy rings,   the top piece with the pulley   is all is all from the same company.   Okay. So yes.   And I already   I already have the antenna made,   the 550 cord,   the stakes that I'm using for   the guidelines,   and   one of oh, my my,   my roadblocks   or the guidelines   are coming from Amazon.  

[00:49:58] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So you're are you going to   just put the   o e or the   the   550 cord through   the holes in the,   in the guide rings?   Yeah.  

[00:50:16] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Okay.  

[00:50:19] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Can I give you another suggestion?  

[00:50:22] Duuude-Ron :

Use carabiner?  

[00:50:26] Rich Chelson:

Yes. That way you don't,   get   you minimize the rubbing   of the o e or the,   I fucking completely lost my  

[00:50:42] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Minimize the scraping of of   the line.  

[00:50:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:50:49] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. I know what you meant.  

[00:50:52] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:50:54] Duuude-Ron :

And, yes, I haven't thought about that. Yes. I might I might decide to do it. Not a 100% sure on that yet. I'm waiting until   I get parts here,   and then I'll finalize everything. But   so   that'll be probably   a last minute   change.   But, yeah, I've got the carabiners   here already. So   hang on. Okay. Yeah. I got, like, hell, I got, like, I don't know,   15   or so, I think.  

[00:51:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. So  

[00:51:30] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, we'll see what happens   on  

[00:51:35] Rich Chelson:

that. Because Yeah. I mean yeah. Because the poles are so light, I doubt that you're gonna have very much sway in them.   You know, if you had if you had the antenna   head at the very top, yeah, I would worry about, you know,   the swaying aspect   in the session of man.  

[00:51:55] Duuude-Ron :

Well, see, that's why that's why I, decided to go with the,   the, 4 guys   or the 4,   guide plates   because that'll that'll cinch that those poles down forever.   And you see the, wire antenna,   I mean, it won't be taut taut. It'll be loose. It it'll flex.   You know, it'll move with the wind, and that's fine.   Because, stranded   wire actually is stronger   and is best to use   as a ham radio antenna than solid core.  

[00:52:35] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[00:52:36] Duuude-Ron :

Because it can flex more in the wind and not break.   Okay.  

[00:52:46] Rich Chelson:

So I got you. Yep. I got you.  

[00:52:52] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, basically, as long as I got those poles   tied   down, you know,   I should be pretty good. The antenna, it can it can flap in the wind.   You know?   I'll just   I'll just look at you know, make sure   all this is staked down.   I mean, if it breaks, it won't matter. I can fix it, but I don't want it to break.  

[00:53:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   I I understand that.  

[00:53:27] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, that's that's the method to my madness, gentlemen.  

[00:53:32] Rich Chelson:

And it's fucking madness.  

[00:53:38] Duuude-Ron :

But, see, it was you you see, that's the thing. I I I mean, maybe   maybe I was explaining it wrong. I don't know. But but in in my mind, it was clear.  

[00:53:49] Rich Chelson:

You know what I mean? Yeah. You're right. You're right. It was clear as mud.  

[00:53:54] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Well, by god, if it's clear as mud, I'm good. I I can proceed.   If it's not clear as mud, fuck it. I'm lost.  

[00:54:05] Rich Chelson:

L l m f. Right?  

[00:54:07] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[00:54:08] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. For those for those listening out in the audience world, l l m f is lost like a motherfucker.  

[00:54:15] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   That's how I normally spend my life.  

[00:54:23] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[00:54:25] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's why that's why if I and a lot of times, I do use those words. It's clear as mud.   If you hear me say it's clear as mud,   just leave me alone. I'm good. I've got it.   But yeah. No. Hey   Hey, Brian. You still looking at the whiteboard?  

[00:54:46] Bryan Goodwin:

Let me bring it back up.  

[00:54:48] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Because I'll show you   kinda real quick. I'm gonna cheat.   And because it's been so long since I've   messed up these.   Okay. Basically,   this is an o e 254.  

[00:55:10] Bryan Goodwin:

A giant,   blunt. Gotcha. Gotcha. It's a joint. Joint. Yeah. Got it.   What?   That is what he's trying, he's trying to joint right now.  

[00:55:23] Rich Chelson:

Is he still on the same fucking whiteboard?  

[00:55:26] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[00:55:28] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Move the cursor. I don't even know where to fucking  

[00:55:31] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm moving it. I'm drawing, dude. You can't see the new edition?  

[00:55:36] Rich Chelson:

No.  

[00:55:40] Duuude-Ron :

I can't.   Hold on. Let me  

[00:55:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Hang on. Set the phone further away from your face.   It is away from my mistake. There it goes. Okay.   Okay.  

[00:55:51] Rich Chelson:

Now that, you know, I've changed I've changed the, I've switched back and forth for the windows.   Wow.   So yeah. Okay. So the  

[00:56:03] Duuude-Ron :

Alright. Hang on here.  

[00:56:05] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So just draw a real simple   antenna head in 3.  

[00:56:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. See, there's the math.   There's a guide ring.   This ain't fancy.  

[00:56:21] Rich Chelson:

But bay No. And you're way far to the left.   Oh, yeah. On my screen anyway.   Yeah. The blue   the blue is centered   in my screen anyway.  

[00:56:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Well, what he was drawing is off to the left of the,  

[00:56:38] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. So Yeah. Okay. Just continue on then. I'll just use the blue.   There you go. Put a put a OE 254   antenna head up on that. There you go.  

[00:56:53] Duuude-Ron :

I mean Yeah. This is   yes. It's known as an o e 254, but this is basically a Discona antenna,   which is good for 2 meters,   70 centimeters.   You know.  

[00:57:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. Military  

[00:57:09] Duuude-Ron :

frequencies, hand frequencies,   it'll work. But it it it so it has guide rings, and it's and it's   well,   see here's   the feed point connection, and then it runs up   to the top.   Freaking connects up there, but it's got, like, 3 points going up, 3 points going down.  

[00:57:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Three antenna.  

[00:57:34] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   And it's   it's a simple it's a simple disk on antenna,   which is,   used for,   you can transmit, I think, up to 50 watts on it   safely.   And then you ring your coax   out to wherever.   But, yeah, basically, it's a spider head. Looks like a spider with legs.  

[00:58:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay.  

[00:58:04] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   In a nutshell.  

[00:58:07] Rich Chelson:

In a nutshell. Yeah.   It's a conical,   3 going up and 3 going down, Brian.   Spread at 120 degree 120   degree points.  

[00:58:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm.   Gotcha.  

[00:58:23] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, that's   this is,   this is what   a lot of column strokes   in the military uses   besides the long whips   that they always have bent over.  

[00:58:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Right.  

[00:58:39] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's   that's another one they they use. And then,   some people even use,   a just a long wire, a long piece of wire, a 135 feet long.   About like that, and it has a freaking control box or a baton   on one end.   And then they run the coax to it, and   they can hang that in the tree.   You can do all all sorts of things with it,   and you can get on HF   and everything.   So   Well.   But, yeah, this   this,   this, o e 254,   this   this is the main one for,   most of your,   combo trucks, combo vans.  

[00:59:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Gotcha. Okay. So  

[00:59:39] Duuude-Ron :

yeah. See, I didn't know if you'd ever seen one.   Nope. Yeah. I didn't think so because   navy's got a totally different   antenna setup.  

[00:59:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. We've got we've got a whole heap and lots of different antennas.  

[00:59:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. The army, they're they're simple.   They're very simple.   It's like, make it stupid proof.  

[01:00:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. The guess point. Keep it simple, stupid.  

[01:00:10] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   But   so, yeah, that's,   this is actually cool   because   Zoom   Zoom was talking about,   taking away the whiteboard for a while.  

[01:00:26] Rich Chelson:

Really?  

[01:00:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I thought, like like, what, a year, year and a half ago, they was they was talking about changing up the whiteboard and all like this.   And for this first time, I've I've ever used a whiteboard   on Zoom.   It's like, shit. This is cool.   You see?   You can even,   do text too.  

[01:00:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[01:00:56] Duuude-Ron :

Say, I didn't know that.   See, this is cool.   You move anywhere.  

[01:01:12] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, guys, if y'all wanna see   see Rich   playing on on on something like a like a little kid, you'll have to go to the,   go to the, to the video that'll be over on the YouTube channel.  

[01:01:24] Duuude-Ron :

Right?   Hey, I mean it, dude, small things.   That   didn't sound right.  

[01:01:35] Rich Chelson:

Yeah, we know.   Yes.   We know. Small things,   small things entertain small minds. Right?   Yeah.   Is that basically what you're trying to say?  

[01:01:50] Duuude-Ron :

A month.  

[01:01:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Right? Well, yeah.  

[01:01:55] Bryan Goodwin:

And I learned and I I I can tell you what I what I learned this week.   What did you learn this week? I I learned how to say son of a bitch in Italian.  

[01:02:04] Duuude-Ron :

How do you say son of a bitch in Italian?  

[01:02:07] Bryan Goodwin:

It it is.   Field that put on.  

[01:02:11] Duuude-Ron :

The what?  

[01:02:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Feel, which is boy, son, boy,   day,   the, the of,   and then put on,   which doesn't actually mean   bitch. They use it as the word bitch, but it's,   it actually just means whore.   Oh, okay. Well You son of a whore.  

[01:02:39] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:02:41] Duuude-Ron :

So so, so say it again.  

[01:02:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Fiatiputana.   It's horror is putana,   which sounds an awful lot like,   pun,   pondejo.  

[01:02:57] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:02:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Because   Spanish   and Italian are both Latin based languages.  

[01:03:05] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[01:03:06] Bryan Goodwin:

So they have a lot of words that sound the same and are used the same. You have,   yes is c. They say no.   There is,   dato.   While Italian is is basically a gato also, but it it's,   gato,   or if it's plural, it's got t.  

[01:03:33] Rich Chelson:

What what about Vato?  

[01:03:35] Bryan Goodwin:

I haven't come across a Vato yet. So  

[01:03:38] Rich Chelson:

Vato is I didn't  

[01:03:41] Bryan Goodwin:

know. What?  

[01:03:42] Duuude-Ron :

In Vato.   So, say   Sorry. I spelt all I know.  

[01:03:53] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, well, no problem. Your name in in Spanish is,   while Italian is,   is, Kiamo,   Norcia.   Oh, shit. What is it?   Kiyami.   Shit. I can't I forgot what how you how you say, what's your name.   Comid   Comidakiami.   Thank you that's what it is. It's C h a m I. C h a m   I.   C h a m I. C h a m I. Is I don't know his name,   but it's instead of Ciamo, it's Ciami.  

[01:04:38] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So   just   lot of little things like that. Dog is,  

[01:04:44] Bryan Goodwin:

one dog is is,   while multiple dogs is,   with,   with an I on the end instead of an e. So   their plural is is with an I.   Okay. So and   I'm slowly I'm slowly learning. I've only been doing it for been learning now,   hitting it every almost every day for the past let me see here. What am I what am I up to? 214   days.   So   I I I should be learning something eventually.  

[01:05:20] Rich Chelson:

Well, I'm Or retain or retaining   something.  

[01:05:24] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I'm retaining a bit.   It's just all it's but it's like a shot glass. You can only put so much in there and the stuff starts dribbling out around the side. So Well, you need a highball.   Exactly. I haven't figured out how to install one of those yet.  

[01:05:42] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I looked up what means   in in,   in Spanish slang.   Okay. And, actually, it's it's a casual way   to refer to a man or a boy. Yeah. And   And, it can be used as a term of endearment or   to say, hey, Vato. What's up? You know? So Right. You know?   Come on, Strauss. You know? But Mhmm.   I just I just figured I'd look up because I didn't know what Vato meant.  

[01:06:20] Rich Chelson:

I didn't But you hear it a lot but you hear it in a lot of movies.  

[01:06:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:06:26] Rich Chelson:

What you don't  

[01:06:28] Duuude-Ron :

what you don't hear, though, is essay.   Say, I haven't heard I haven't heard the term essay used.   Oh, god. Now what? 30 years?   30 plus years?  

[01:06:41] Bryan Goodwin:

What's this?   Hey. You do know what you call a midget Mexican. Right?   Right.   Paragraph.   You know why, don't you? No.   Too short too short to be an essay.  

[01:07:02] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:07:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Wow. I I saw those eyes roll from here, Ron. Man, that was a hell of a roll.  

[01:07:10] Duuude-Ron :

That's a dead joke if I ever heard one.   No. SA is is  

[01:07:17] Rich Chelson:

I think it's time for bed.  

[01:07:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's still early, dude.   Oh, yeah. Oh, hang on. Hang on. I before I scroll off.   Essay is a term that means dude, buddy, comrade, or pal in Spanish.   So   so that's what that's what essay means   in Spanish.   But  

[01:07:40] Rich Chelson:

okay.  

[01:07:41] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I   I   I love my Breezy. I   love her to death. Right?   But that girl and I I don't know if it's her mama doing it, if it's her nana doing it, or if it's just her.   But   if Breezy   texts me in the evening time, like, you know, let's say now it's it's 8 o'clock CST.   Right?   Right. Yeah. She will text me, are you up?   I'm sitting here thinking   the other night, Breezy texted me   and,   it was it was like 5 after 7 and she's like, are you up?   And I'm sitting here thinking,   what time do you think I go to bed, honey?  

[01:08:28] Bryan Goodwin:

I'm like, yes. I'm, You're you're old enough to go to bed with chickens.  

[01:08:35] Duuude-Ron :

It's like, oh my god. You know? Yeah. I mean, I mean, I know I'm older, but you're making me feel really old by asking.   I I just had to laugh because I'm like, it's 7 o'clock and   and,   yeah. My,   great niece is asking, are you up?   It's like, yes, honey. I'm up.  

[01:08:59] Bryan Goodwin:

And so After 10 o'clock, that's when you'll start hearing me grumble a bit.  

[01:09:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Normally, she's passed out by then. I know. Yeah.   Yeah. She freaking dyed her hair red, blue, and purple.  

[01:09:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, yeah. They gotta do that. Yeah.   My my daughter ran around with pink. My son had red and blue for a little while in in his younger years.   And then school started up, and they had   to they ran around with a little bit of extra blonde hair because they had to had to remove all the coloring to be able to be allowed in school.  

[01:09:35] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Well well, Breezy sent me a picture of of   the day before   when   when she bleached her hair, and I didn't like that. I'd I didn't like it.   And and, you know, Breezy was like, well,  

[01:09:54] Bryan Goodwin:

I really like, you know, my blonde hair. And I told her I said, I was like, no. I've never been a never been a fan of the frosted look at all.  

[01:10:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And this I mean, it I mean, it wasn't blonde blonde. It was it was more of a yellow,   a pale pink.   And,   it it   it just didn't look right. And, honestly, the red and the blue and the purple actually   kinda,   worked out, you know, the way   the way Breezy did it   kinda worked out. So   it was it it actually looked pretty cool.   And  

[01:10:33] Rich Chelson:

Sounds good.  

[01:10:35] Duuude-Ron :

What's funny?   Take a wild guess who would dye her hair.  

[01:10:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Really?  

[01:10:47] Duuude-Ron :

What?  

[01:10:47] Bryan Goodwin:

Your sister went off and dyed her hair.  

[01:10:50] Duuude-Ron :

No, no, no, no, no breezes hair.   Thank  

[01:10:53] Bryan Goodwin:

you. Oh, who died breeze? Oh, okay. I thought you were just me and who   I was like, dude, you dead. Holy crow.  

[01:11:05] Duuude-Ron :

No.   It's funny, but but,   Brian.  

[01:11:10] Rich Chelson:

Oh.  

[01:11:11] Bryan Goodwin:

I had a great year.  

[01:11:14] Duuude-Ron :

Hey. I   don't know why Brian has this knack because   when a Brit wants her hair dyed,   Brian does it,   and   he's actually really freaking good at it.   So   so   yeah. So, yeah, it was Brian that,   dyed Breezy's hair.  

[01:11:38] Bryan Goodwin:

Well   Mhmm.   Got a got a secret hairstylist in the family.  

[01:11:44] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.   I'm not letting him dye my hair. Sorry. Just dang.   I know he would do a good job, but yeah. No. I just can't.   Oh, they would crap if I dyed my hair like pink or   neon yellow   or orange.   Yes. I just said something wrong, man.   I don't care who your ass is wrong.   Dude,   you need a wig.  

[01:12:21] Rich Chelson:

You know, I have thought about dyeing   my beard   green for Saint Patrick's Day.   But knowing my luck,   it won't wash out.  

[01:12:33] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, it'll wash out.   Eventually. But now I was gonna say about 4 or 5 weeks later.  

[01:12:40] Duuude-Ron :

And if it doesn't, well,   you could always shave it off.  

[01:12:46] Bryan Goodwin:

And then we would laugh.   I mean or no. No. We wouldn't laugh. No. No. We wouldn't laugh much,   or at all. We we wouldn't laugh at all. No. No.   No. You wouldn't you wouldn't laugh with me. You would laugh at me. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I I I yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Kiss my ass.  

[01:13:07] Rich Chelson:

How about that? Yeah. Kiss my ass. Greatest. Okay.  

[01:13:11] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, I would be I I would I would have to triple check to make sure it was you if if if you didn't have that beard. The way yeah. Everybody be walking up to you, put your hand their hand over your mouth to hold, to hide your chin, to look at your the top half of your face and go,  

[01:13:27] Bryan Goodwin:

okay. Yeah. That's that's a run. That's  

[01:13:30] Duuude-Ron :

And take their hand away, and it's like, where'd he go? Where'd he go?   Dude, go.  

[01:13:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I can't I can't remember how long I've actually been,   throwing this out now.   I don't know. Could you guys remember what I looked like?   When the first time we ever met at   where the hell was the first meeting at?   Birds.   Yeah.   That was in our where was that at? Arkansas? That was our in Arkansas.   Okay. Yeah.   I can't remember if I had a goatee then or   what. I think you did.   Yeah. I don't fucking remember.  

[01:14:13] Duuude-Ron :

I think you did, but I'm not a 100% sure.   I'm not a 100% sure of that.   Is   that was what? 6 years ago?  

[01:14:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh,   no. No. Because it was,   no. It's only, like,   4.   Because it was after it was the   it was in 2021.  

[01:14:41] Duuude-Ron :

Was it in 21? Yep. Yeah.  

[01:14:45] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because we had one one at birds, and we've had 3   in Oklahoma.   Okay. Because the first the first time,   what's his name donated his Harley Davidson for the drawing.   Bob. Yeah. And then the second year was the crotch rocket   motorcycle.   And then last year was,   or this past   what was it? June, July, whatever,   was back to basics.  

[01:15:19] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Okay.   Yeah. I   yeah. I couldn't I couldn't remember.   Just could not remember.  

[01:15:31] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I just I I have to use 20,   the the the rock march   as as my, as my base.   So   I'll remember all that because that was in 2  

[01:15:45] Duuude-Ron :

2, 22, 22. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's right. That's right.   So, yeah, it was 21.   Yep.   Okay.  

[01:16:01] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. And I've had I've had the beer, my beard since, 2019.  

[01:16:07] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:16:10] Bryan Goodwin:

So it's about time for me to freak out the dog   because I've we've had her, what, 3 she's, what, 3   years now?   Because you had her at for us. Yeah. Because we   I took her for to the, to the first Moyers  

[01:16:38] Rich Chelson:

in 22. So, yeah. Yeah. Was that was that the year that she rode in the Jeep? Yep.  

[01:16:45] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:16:49] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. And then left left her, left her at the house for, for the second one and then wasn't able to make this one. So  

[01:16:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:17:03] Bryan Goodwin:

So yeah. Yeah. The one that she rode in the jeep, and it took a whole other year for the all the hair to finally leave. So   Well, it's about time to do it again then. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Definitely need to get her back there again.   Take her over to the, over to the river again and watch her,   experience being, being able to swim. That was still just the funniest thing. She come tromped through there like, oh, yeah. This is cool. Oh, this feels really nice. And all of a sudden, she was like, oh, hey. I can't can't touch the floor, bro, and bottom anymore, man. This is not cool. So   she was like, alright. Turn around. Let's go home.  



[01:17:44] Duuude-Ron :

Which which, which, river did you   go in?  

[01:17:48] Bryan Goodwin:

The one at Moyers. The one that runs behind the,   the one that, that wants your name got the, went off and flooded her her Jeep in.  

[01:17:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Okay.   The one that burned to the ground.  

[01:18:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. And then turned around and burned to the ground. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Make sure your electronics   are thoroughly   protected before you go  

[01:18:17] Rich Chelson:

running through the water.   Well, first of all,   first of all,   I would never do that crap   that they did.   You know, those 2 yeah.   And   take a   send it, run,   and hit the water, and just let the   let it go up over into the cab because you don't have your top on.   Yeah. No.   I I may be stupid, but I I may be yeah. Stupid, but I'm not dumb.   That was just fucking dumb.  

[01:18:53] Duuude-Ron :

Well, you know, that that was her Jeep. And  

[01:18:57] Bryan Goodwin:

She had fun while it lasted.  

[01:18:59] Duuude-Ron :

Well and and and her Jeep, the reason why it,   burnt because   she had to replace the engine and had a mobile mechanic do it. Apparently, he didn't get something hooked up right is what I hear.  

[01:19:14] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   That's that's correct. Yeah. That's correct. I don't know what it was that didn't get hooked up right,   But I remember the video of   the, Jeep going up in flames.  

[01:19:26] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[01:19:28] Rich Chelson:

But you would you would have thought that well, let's see. We're doing electrical.   Let's have a fire extinguisher close by.   Oh, yeah. You would think.   But no.  

[01:19:41] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   I don't know. I   all I do know is yeah. I I   I kinda wish I still had my TJ   because,   I could get the inside of that bitch wet and everything still work.   Because,  

[01:20:03] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   What was it? Yeah. Because you didn't have you didn't have the electronics that these fucking Jeeps have today.   Right. Right. You had a crank down window.   You know, probably a real simple stereo system. Nothing on the steering wheel.  

[01:20:19] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no. Nothing on the steering wheel.   No.   Last time I I was at I was at K River,   it just popped up and rained. And, I mean, it poured. Oh god. It poured.   Poured like cats and dogs. It took 3 days for my dash to dry out. And the whole time when I'd started,   it would it would beep and yell and scream at me and buzz and all like that because the dash got wet because I got caught in a rainstorm.  

[01:20:47] Rich Chelson:

I was like That was the JK or the TJ?  

[01:20:50] Duuude-Ron :

No. That was the JK.  

[01:20:52] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's what I'm saying.   Yeah. The JK, yeah, has all the fucking electronic components and that crap and but the TJ,   no. Crank down windows.   Nothing on the steering wheel. Yeah. You're right. I had a TJ.   I completely understand that. I wish my JK   was the same damn way.   You can take that shit off the fucking steering wheel.   I'll I'll take the crank down windows because eventually,   the fucking,   electric motor or those the, sprockets, they're plastic,   are gonna fucking break.   And then the window's gonna come down, and you ain't gonna be able to get it up.  

[01:21:33] Duuude-Ron :

Well, the thing is, though, it isn't it's it's not hard   to take that inner door panel off and change that stuff.   It's just a pain in the it's it's a bitch,   but it's not hard.  

[01:21:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Have have you ever had to take a door panel off on the JK?  

[01:21:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.  

[01:21:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah? Okay. Okay.  

[01:21:53] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It's not, dude, it's not hard.  

[01:21:56] Rich Chelson:

No. No. And that fucking putting a new mirror on the door when mine got   debris shot up on from another vehicle when I was on the interstate.   Yeah. Fucking trying to rewire   and put the fucking wires into the right holes   to get to the connections.   Yeah. No. That was a fucking pain in the ass.  

[01:22:21] Duuude-Ron :

Wasn't it plug and play?  

[01:22:23] Rich Chelson:

It was plug and play, but getting the plug   to the play port,   that was a whole different ball of fucking worms.   That   right.  

[01:22:35] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. I mean   yeah. That's where that's where you just, yeah, take a knife and make the hole bigger and shove it through.  

[01:22:45] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. Just   that that wasn't gonna happen.  

[01:22:51] Duuude-Ron :

You know, if all else fails, break out the sawzall, dude.   Sawzall make anything fit.  

[01:22:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So will a big fucking hammer, but I'm not gonna do that. I got enough   yeah.   I got enough dents and dings in it now.   Well, I could tell you. I could tell you all the dents and dings came from.  

[01:23:12] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[01:23:17] Rich Chelson:

They're just beauty scars.  

[01:23:19] Duuude-Ron :

That's right. Exactly.   It it shows   it shows love, dude. It shows love.  

[01:23:28] Rich Chelson:

No. It shows that I was a fucking idiot   and ran into a damn tree.  

[01:23:34] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's yeah. I've done that a couple times.  

[01:23:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I mean, we all.   Yep.  

[01:23:41] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, wasn't what I I wasn't trying to run into the tree. The tree just jumped out in front of me.  

[01:23:48] Rich Chelson:

Right.   Yeah. Uh-huh.  

[01:23:51] Duuude-Ron :

That's what I was talking about. I was thinking to it.  

[01:23:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   It just unrooted   itself,   pulled up its skirting,   and shimmied over a couple of feet and   sat back down. Yep. Uh-huh.  

[01:24:05] Duuude-Ron :

It sure did.   Yeah. Hey. Hey.   Hey. On my story, I'm sticking to it, dude.  

[01:24:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. The same thing with   yeah. And the same thing that you did at the first time you went to more Moyers with TJ and got in the fucking mud hole.  

[01:24:21] Duuude-Ron :

Yep.  

[01:24:24] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That was fucking hilarious.  

[01:24:27] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I know that was.  

[01:24:31] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Because we both had to get pulled out.   Right? Because By a fucking 4 by our fucking 4 runner. 4 by 4. Whatever the heck you call it.   Fucking   yeah. It was it wasn't even that. It wasn't even a side well, it's one that they used at the park to collect the trash.  

[01:24:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:24:52] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. That's  

[01:24:53] Duuude-Ron :

that's what pulled us out. Yeah. Because,   Yeah. Because, dude, when when a dude saw me stuck,   he went   over on the bypass side, which is   supposed to be easier to get through.   Yeah. About that, it didn't work.  

[01:25:09] Rich Chelson:

Well and because it had rained so much, it was just so slick that   I was on the bypass and that angle   that the bypass was,   you know, I stopped. It was still sliding to the right.   Right.   Yep. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Yep. Gotta look.  

[01:25:29] Bryan Goodwin:

Clay   mud,  

[01:25:31] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yes. Always. Love clay mud.  

[01:25:35] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I I I love it. I love it. Oh, slick, licorice as not.   Right. Right. You see, that's why that's why I I normally run,   maybe not real aggressive, but somewhat somewhat aggressive tires on my Jeep   just because   I've got that,   a a little   extra traction   for going through mud. Yeah.  

[01:26:02] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:26:03] Duuude-Ron :

You know?   Because that because you see and see, that's the thing. I can even go on rocks with them.   Rocks will eat the treads up quicker,   but,   you know, I can go mud or rock.  

[01:26:19] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. Same here.   But as soon as you're you know, even though and my tires are the same as yours as far as the tread pattern,   you get them you get them clogged. You get you get the treads clogged, and you're just   yeah. It's like fucking trying to wheel in slicks.  

[01:26:38] Duuude-Ron :

No. Mine's not now.   No, dude. Mine are mud tires. Mine. Mine's been themselves clean.   Oh, okay. Yeah. No. When  

[01:26:49] Rich Chelson:

You're gonna have to take a picture of your new tires then. Okay. Are they the ones are they the ones that you had the last time at Moyers?  

[01:26:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No.  

[01:26:58] Rich Chelson:

No. Okay. Yeah. No?  

[01:27:01] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wait. Yeah. Yeah. In July   when you come down? Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Those yeah. Those yeah.   Those are new ones. I got those,   January or February.  

[01:27:14] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[01:27:16] Duuude-Ron :

February, I think.   Yeah. Those yeah. Those are the,   yeah. I got lugs.   Not not real big lugs, but I got lugs.   And, yeah, they   they do real good in,   mud and dirt.  

[01:27:35] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[01:27:37] Duuude-Ron :

So,   yeah, I couldn't stand those,   those highway treads   that I had on it when I first got it. Mhmm.   Just I couldn't do it.  

[01:27:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:27:55] Duuude-Ron :

You know, the, you know, they're   they're fine for rock,   but   I know me.   I like to play in mud.   Mud is like   mud is like,   I don't know,   my   my,   can't even think of the word I wanna use.  

[01:28:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Your go to?  

[01:28:22] Duuude-Ron :

That'll work. Yeah.   Weakness?   Weakness? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I like that word. Weakness.   Mud is my weakness. I find mud and Kryptonite,  

[01:28:35] Bryan Goodwin:

if you wanna sound a little more powerful.  

[01:28:43] Duuude-Ron :

So but, yeah. No. That's   yeah. As I mean, you know, like like, when I went out to Arizona and wheeled out there, I mean, I did have fun. I man, I enjoyed it. The bad thing is is I finished off the tires on my TJ that I had. The lugs that I had on on them out there? Yeah.   I fucking ate them up   in a matter of about   5 days,   6 days.  

[01:29:09] Rich Chelson:

Oh, wow. What what do you mean? And what are you talking about with lugs?  

[01:29:17] Bryan Goodwin:

You've got Just the really knobby tires.  

[01:29:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay.  

[01:29:24] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I   yeah. Wheeling on the rocks out there in in the desert.   Yeah. I just Yeah.   And then, the tires   that I got on   the TJ   after that, they were rock tires.  

[01:29:39] Rich Chelson:

Which Oh, okay.  

[01:29:41] Duuude-Ron :

They did fine on you know, out there in Arizona.  

[01:29:46] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:29:47] Duuude-Ron :

They didn't do   that good on snow, though.   That was a challenge.  

[01:29:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:29:57] Duuude-Ron :

So   but, you know, it's all good.  

[01:30:01] Rich Chelson:

Well, even for a Jeep, ICE is the,   true equalizer.  

[01:30:07] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[01:30:09] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. It doesn't matter if you're in a Jeep or a fucking Tesla or a fucking  

[01:30:14] Duuude-Ron :

Prius.  

[01:30:16] Rich Chelson:

Prius or a smart car or a freaking   dually.   Yeah.   You you slide all the same.   Don't matter.  

[01:30:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. And, yeah, nothing helps there. But  

[01:30:33] Bryan Goodwin:

No.  

[01:30:34] Duuude-Ron :

That's why I live down here.  

[01:30:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I   yeah.  

[01:30:39] Duuude-Ron :

Because I don't   know. I'm done with that.   I am done with that.   Oh, guess what? Went to Bozos last week. Right?   Okay. Last week. Yeah. Last week.   Oh my god.   Went in. They was having a sale. 8 inch. 8 inch   shrimp po' boys.   2 99.  

[01:31:08] Bryan Goodwin:

There you go.  

[01:31:09] Duuude-Ron :

I bought 2 of them.  

[01:31:12] Rich Chelson:

There you go.  

[01:31:14] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, I mean, seriously, man. I mean, an 8 inch   shrimp po boy fully dressed.   Oh my God. For $3   signed me to hell up. I was gay. I was game on, man.  

[01:31:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:31:30] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, I mean, a 12 inch is only $11,   You know? And a 6 inch, I think it's   7 or 8. You know? But   but an 8 inch for   for 3?   Yeah. I'm good.  

[01:31:44] Rich Chelson:

That was a hell of a sale.   Right. Yep.   That was pretty good. Luckily, you,   you know,   stumbled upon that.  

[01:31:55] Duuude-Ron :

It well, you know, I, I hadn't had   I hadn't been to Bozos in a while,   and I I was I was out and about running around, you know,   getting a couple things and everything. It's like, you know what? I want   Bozos today. And, normally,   Bozo's is so freaking popular.   If you don't   they start making sandwiches at 10:30.   Okay?   Alright. If you don't if you don't get there by 10:45,   you might as well give it the hell up. You ain't gonna I mean, it is that fucking busy from about 10:45,   11 o'clock   till about   3.  

[01:32:38] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So how many how many different styles of,   you know,   meats can you have   with them?   Oh, with the Is it it's like any any sub shop?  

[01:32:55] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, yeah. And it's   well, hang on a second. Y'all talk. I'll be right back. Nope. You gotta go to the bathroom. Alright.  

[01:33:04] Bryan Goodwin:

So we alright. Well, now we can start talking all the great secrets about   about Rich. He won't know till he listens to the show while he's doing the editing.  

[01:33:14] Rich Chelson:

So Yeah. So  

[01:33:19] Bryan Goodwin:

So   but, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what happened over at work this week?  

[01:33:26] Rich Chelson:

Oh,   just pretty much the same old, same old. It was,   well, let's see.   I was at one location for 3 hour   because I had to unload,   reload,   also write up my inventory   for my truck at one location   because god only knows where anybody was at.   And then the next day,   I brought   19 pallets.   You know how many pallets they had of cylinders   coming back? I brought them 19.   Right? Oh, wow. They had   they had 7.   I'm like, okay.   I hope you have some empty pallets   because,   Exactly. Yeah.   We,   we need pallets in our location   as well. You know? And I understand we just went here yesterday,   and I get that. I I completely understand.  

But the,   the branch manager says, well, we got a lot of pallets we gotta unload and get them sorted and, you know, so on like that. I'm like, okay. So you just sitting at the counter   is going to get that accomplished.   Gotcha.   Yeah.   Well,   so it took me   time   to find empty pallets, to get the straps,   and get them secured and all that.   And it's like,   okay. This is this is gonna be fun.   It was. Right.   You know, and then I get back   today   and we're   offloading the vehicle   and we hear this   bam.   I'm like, what the fuck was that?   And I'm looking up at the top of the truck to see, you know, any cylinders or something like that and   hissing.  

No. You know what? My the sidewall of my tire   blew about a freaking  

[01:35:46] Bryan Goodwin:

3 inch gash.   Oh, hell. You had a you had a standstill blowout.   Yeah. Aren't those scary   just to think that you might have been standing right next to that. And if you were standing there when that puppy went loose, what happened? What happened to your leg?  

[01:36:03] Rich Chelson:

Well, thank goodness only   air came out   or blew the blew the   hole in the sidewall, I was about   5 feet from it when it blew.   Right.   I was like, what the fuck?   And see with our trailers,   and there after it blew,   it was still full of air,   and it wasn't hissing,   but it was gonna continue to fill with air because that's the way our trailer is built with air lines. Work.   Yeah. The the the airlines that keep every all the tires,   you know,   at a constant,   pressure.   So   and when it blew, it was like   there's no more air hissing out, but the tire's still full.   That's what I couldn't figure out.  

But yeah, it freaking blew the sidewall.   That was a lot of fun.  

[01:37:07] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. Then you get the get the fun of standing around and waiting for the,   for the tire man to show show up and,   get to get that all swapped out.  

[01:37:21] Rich Chelson:

And thank goodness that   I was already back to my plant   when it blew out   that, you know, after I got unloading it, I went and parked the truck, you know, called the,   what do we use now? Premier Fleet Services.  

[01:37:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay.  

[01:37:41] Rich Chelson:

And,   you know, and our location   is a fenced in facility because of   and it's always been a gated   gated location   because of just the nature of   what we do. But now Right.   Compressed gas cylinders fall underneath Homeland Security.  

[01:38:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, do they really? That's fun. Yeah.  

[01:38:06] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   So the security and all that aspect. So   there was a night shift.   So if I wasn't there,   they would have been let able to let the tire   tire guy come in, get it repaired, and then he would've just taken off. We've had that happen before.   But we have somebody at the facility   that can let them in.   Team 4. But it just so   so but it just so have I mean, when I called them,   they said, yeah. Their estimated time is 90 minutes to a 120 minutes. I'm like,   yeah, that's, you know, the textbook   answer when they don't   have a Really? Yeah. We'll we'll be we'll be there roughly 2 hours.  

And, you know, of course, that's the answer they always give.   Yep. But they actually got there a little bit earlier, so I was still there   and they will let them in.  

[01:39:11] Duuude-Ron :

Alright, gentlemen. I'm back. Alright. You feel better?  

[01:39:15] Rich Chelson:

Holy crap. Alright. Brian Quags.  

[01:39:18] Duuude-Ron :

That's alright. Rich is back. Yeah. No. And and say I I didn't I didn't have to go to the bathroom until you said something, dude.   But, anyway, I was reason I said hold on is,   I was I got I got a menu from Bozos.   Oh.   And dude was asking about,   the different po'boys.  

[01:39:44] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[01:39:45] Duuude-Ron :

Well,   okay. They have a shrimp po'boy,   which is one I normally get.   They have a shrimp overload   po'boy,   which is a pound and a half of shrimp.   Oh, boy.   Yeah. It's a po'boy.  

[01:40:02] Rich Chelson:

They have a They hell, that ain't no fucking a pound and a half of shrimp, that ain't no fucking po'boy. You gotta be a rich po'boy   to fucking get a po'boy   sandwich.  

[01:40:13] Duuude-Ron :

No. It's not bad. It's it's like only 1795,   dude.   Holy.   Yeah.   Yeah. No. Okay. Wait.   We're not done. They have a shrimp and oyster.   Oh, boy.  

[01:40:31] Bryan Goodwin:

And that one just slides down your throat.  

[01:40:35] Rich Chelson:

Well I bet it does.  

[01:40:39] Duuude-Ron :

And they also have just a plain oyster,   oh, boy.  

[01:40:44] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Thank you.  

[01:40:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Now there is a booger sandwich.  

[01:40:52] Duuude-Ron :

They have a, roast beef po'boy,   which I haven't tried that yet.   They have a soft shell crab po'boy.  

[01:41:03] Bryan Goodwin:

Mhmm. That sounds good.  

[01:41:05] Duuude-Ron :

Crab meat po'boy, a catfish po'boy,   flounder po'boy,   ham and cheese po'boy,   hamburger po'boy,   Philly cheesesteak,   and sausage.  

[01:41:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Snausages.   Yeah.  

[01:41:22] Duuude-Ron :

So and that's just the po'boys.   They've got,   different stuff, like,   on a large bun,   then they have full blown dinner,   and then salad, sides, and gumbo. And this is over in the deli section.   And   a freaking gallon of gumbo   is $65.  

[01:41:47] Rich Chelson:

Golly.  

[01:41:49] Duuude-Ron :

I can't afford that.   No.   I mean, that's that's like yeah. That's that's just a little too much right there.  

[01:41:58] Bryan Goodwin:

That's a whole lotta.   It's a whole lotta gumbo.  

[01:42:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. It is.  

[01:42:04] Bryan Goodwin:

It'd be good, though. I mean Oh, you wouldn't hear me complain about it. I'll I'll definitely be eat gumbo for a couple, for a couple weeks.  

[01:42:13] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   So, yeah, just on the po'boys,   like I said, I I mean, this place here,   10:45,   11 o'clock.   If you're not in before then, you might as well give it up until after 3   because people just I mean and that's the thing.   They've got an actual full blown restaurant on the side of Bozos, which is called Bozos 2,   and   that place stays full.   I mean, this this place here is, I mean, known   throughout   the Gulf Coast down here.   Someone mentions,   Bozos?   Yeah.   Everybody just about knows this place.  

[01:43:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Sweet.  

[01:43:04] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, I couldn't pass up.   Say an 8 inch po'boy for 2.99.  

[01:43:10] Bryan Goodwin:

$3. Yeah.   That's that's a good that's a nice little pit deal right there. I would agree.  

[01:43:15] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I asked I asked the, checkout girl. I I said I said, how can y'all do this?   And she looked at me and she says, I told the owner he he just might as well give him away. You know, he's losing money.   And I'm like, no. I I would need to pay something for him, you know, just because, I mean, it you know,   they're good, you know, and shit like this.   And,   say, I guess, the owner told her, he's like,   I do enough business. I'd I do enough volume business. I can do this every once in a while. I'm like, that's pretty fucking cool.  

[01:43:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Absolutely.  

[01:43:56] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, the, the, owner,   I mean, he does so well. He's like, fuck it. We'll throw a shrimp po boys for $3.  

[01:44:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. When they're regularly,   you know, $17.  

[01:44:12] Bryan Goodwin:

No. But but no. No. They're  

[01:44:16] Duuude-Ron :

Oh.   See us,   regular shrimp po'boy. A 6 inch is 795.   A 12 inch is 1095.   The, shrimp overload   with the pound and a half shrimp, that's $18.  

[01:44:31] Rich Chelson:

So For for what size sandwich?  

[01:44:35] Duuude-Ron :

That's a 12 inch.  

[01:44:37] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Yeah.   Yeah. But Yeah. I can only, you know   and at those prices, you know, what is the profit margin   on a usual basis? You know? It costs them x amount   to make them, and then they sell them for x amount. I'm sure he's probably   selling them for   double of what his supplies cost   him easily.  

[01:45:05] Duuude-Ron :

I don't think so. No.   Because he does a volume business, dude,   every day. Well, yeah. Yeah. I'm saying that. 7 days a week. He I mean, he   I mean,   he's like Walmart, man.   Yeah. I mean, dude does a volume business, and and he's not looking to get   rich.   I mean, the dude's rich naturally just because,   you know, he's got quality food.   I mean, honestly, his prices   are actually cheaper than most of the restaurants   down here on the gulf. Oh, really? Yo. Hell yeah.   Buy   at   least buy at least a couple bucks.  

[01:45:50] Rich Chelson:

Well, okay. So you go to   a restaurant and you get the large fountain drink.   How much does it usually cost?  

[01:46:02] Duuude-Ron :

Down here? Roughly.   Down here, most drinks are,   $3 minimal.  

[01:46:09] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Do you know how much it cost to   Yeah. You know how much it cost to produce that?  

[01:46:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. About 75¢,   man.  

[01:46:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Less than that.  

[01:46:23] Duuude-Ron :

All I know, dude. It's I know it's a fucking racket.   That's like   Yeah. That's like charging will be.   That's like charging $3 for a fucking cup of coffee when it costs less than 20¢   between the water, the filter, and the coffee,   and the electricity.   Yeah. Oh, no. No. I get it.   But that's the thing. Bozo's here? I I mean, well, these guys have been here for   I'm not sure how long.  

[01:46:55] Bryan Goodwin:

They've been there ever since you were there.  

[01:46:58] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, they've been here during that.  

[01:47:01] Bryan Goodwin:

I know, but that you know they've been there at least as long as you've been there. Oh, right. Right.  

[01:47:09] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's   oh, yeah. You can also go in and,   they sell rue and and,   different stuff.   Shrimp bowls.   All kinds of stuff, man.  

[01:47:26] Rich Chelson:

Nice. There you go.  

[01:47:28] Duuude-Ron :

All kinds of stuff. They I mean   yeah. They get and   fresh raw seafood,   they,   they'll,   they've been in business since 1957.   Oh.   So   they've been here for a minute.  

[01:47:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:47:54] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, Bozos is is   is is a good place,   and it's like   a freaking quarter mile away from my house.   And I don't even get there that often because   they're busy.   So   but, yeah,   last time I was in there, I   I freaking stole a menu. So   so I can I can call it? And m e  

[01:48:26] Rich Chelson:

there you go. And m e m, men, y o u u, menu.  

[01:48:33] Duuude-Ron :

That's right.  

[01:48:35] Rich Chelson:

I can't remember which,   Looney Tunes character   said that.   M e n n y o u u. Man, you.  

[01:48:50] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I'm trying to think.  

[01:48:54] Rich Chelson:

I don't remember. It's been so damn long ago.  

[01:48:58] Duuude-Ron :

I I can't remember either.   But yeah. No. You can get,   like,   shit. Ram, sausage, and corn,   pound of each.   Fucking   steamed for you already   and and everything like that for, like, $10 a pound.   Crab   legs,   they're, like, 10, $12 a pound.   Some of your crabs, though, are market price.  

[01:49:31] Rich Chelson:

Whatever you want. Because you are so close to the close to the coast.   Well because you could just go down and buy from a boat if you wanted to. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I can.  

[01:49:43] Duuude-Ron :

I can. There's there's no boy down in Ocean Springs that does it, and there's,   those are boys that do it in Bayou La Batre.   Uh-huh.   You know, I can go right there on the boat and get fresh shrimp for $3 a pound.  

[01:49:58] Rich Chelson:

Wow.   You know, and you talk and you talk about this,  

[01:50:02] Bryan Goodwin:

restaurant. What was the name again? Bozos?   Bozos.   Like the clown.  

[01:50:08] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   We had a place back up in Lincoln, Nebraska where I was originally born at,   and it was called Chartreuse   Caboose.  

[01:50:21] Bryan Goodwin:

Chartreuse Caboose.  

[01:50:22] Rich Chelson:

Chartreuse Caboose. And it was downtown,   and all they did   was Philly cheesesteak sandwiches.   That was it.   Now with that Philly cheese or with with the meat,   you could pick your cheese. You could pick, you know, condiments, mushrooms,   blase, blase, blase.   But all it was was a Philly cheesesteak   restaurant.   Yeah. That place was   always packed.   Just because of,   you know, the amount that they put   in the bun   And at the price that it was, the you know,   I went there all the time.   Right. Yeah. Because   they had the best Philly cheesesteak sandwiches   for that price,   any place. And, unfortunately,   the major in Lincoln being   what? They're   they're over half a1000000 in   in Lincoln.  

But the downtown area   just basically completely died when they started putting in all the,   you know,   big malls and and,   oh, what the hell they call it?   Where you have a whole bunch of outlet stores.   What the hell do they call that?  

[01:51:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, the oh, you're talking about the outlet mall?  

[01:51:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Like an outlet mall,   and that killed   downtown   in Lincoln   bad. And, unfortunately,   Chartreuse,   y'all went out of business.  

[01:52:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. I believe it.  

[01:52:08] Duuude-Ron :

Honest. Yep.   That's what happens when,   you know, towns   start getting,   you know, these these   malls and big names and,   you know, all this all all this new trendy stuff.   The,   like like the place she was talking about goes out of business because, one, everyone is going to the new trendy thing,   and everyone forgets about how good the food is over here.   You know?  

[01:52:41] Rich Chelson:

And that's Yeah. There was just there was just no foot traffic   going downtown   in Lincoln.   Right.  

[01:52:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah.   And see, that's the thing. That's that's what that's what just about   90%   of   all these towns in in the country.   You know, the, downtown   areas   have suffered greatly   because no one goes down there anymore because   the towns have gotten bigger and bigger and bigger and have put all the fancy new shit on the outside of town.   Yeah.   So unless the town does   does seem to bring does things to bring people   back downtown,   which most of towns don't.  

[01:53:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[01:53:29] Duuude-Ron :

They just, you know, follow the leader.   This is why downtowns die. And and, honestly,   I hate that because   downtowns, especially in a small town area,   normally have a lot of charm.  

[01:53:45] Rich Chelson:

A lot. Yeah. They do.   Yeah. They do.  

[01:53:49] Duuude-Ron :

They but the thing is,   you know,   10, 20 years of no traffic,   they lose their charm.   You know? Yeah.   It's sad. It's sad to see Main Street America   die,   which is what we've been seeing the past, well, 30 years, actually.  

[01:54:10] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. You know?  

[01:54:15] Duuude-Ron :

So, yeah, it's it's,   you know,   I I don't know. It's a shame. It it,   it really is.  

[01:54:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Because I left Lincoln in 86   when I when I went into the military.   And when I was in high school, there was a lot of shit downtown. You you could go and rent outdoor roller skates   and roller skate the downtown area.   I mean,   the city of Lincoln is fucking   well,   it's it's pretty big. It's not a Dallas or a Houston,   but it's, you know,   probably   12 blocks law wide by, you   know, 20 blocks long.  

[01:55:06] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's at least 20, 30000 people, dude.  

[01:55:09] Rich Chelson:

What's that?  

[01:55:11] Duuude-Ron :

Lincoln.  

[01:55:13] Rich Chelson:

No. They're over 500,000.  

[01:55:15] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, really?  

[01:55:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Yeah. That's the capital   capital city of Nebraska.   Yeah. They're over 500,000.   Yeah. They're over 500,000.   But you're right. They're just like every town, you know, that builds their outskirts and then, you know, and within that area, they're building the   latest and greatest outlet mall or,   you know,   movie style theater or, you   know, this or that, but it's nothing is going into the downtown area.  

[01:55:52] Duuude-Ron :

Right.   Yeah. Actually, it says in 2023,   there was 294,000   people, which is a lot.   Too many.   I couldn't stay there.   That would scare me.   Yeah.   I would be scared.   I would, man. I mean, I know. That's that's just that's just way too way too many people.   You know?   It was in in it was incorporated April 1, 18 69.  

[01:56:31] Rich Chelson:

What's that? Lincoln? Yep. Lincoln.  

[01:56:34] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:56:36] Rich Chelson:

Well, I didn't even know that.   They have a   I don't know if you ever seen the, that capitol building   in Lincoln   because   probably 40   I think it's at least 42   state capitals.   It kind of follow   the architectural   of,   the federal   capitol building   where Lincoln   is called the prick of the prairie.   Look it up, Brian. It it is the tallest building.   If I'm not mistaken, it is the tallest building in the state.  

[01:57:22] Duuude-Ron :

I can't believe it.   And, yes, Brian, look it up. I'm serious.   You it it looks like a big dick.   Yeah. It does. It it is. It's no bullshit.  

[01:57:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Just a big old tall  

[01:57:39] Duuude-Ron :

Packer.   Packer.   Yep.  

[01:57:43] Rich Chelson:

Yep. And when I was in high school,   I walked through that building every single day,   twice a day,   either   coming from or going to the bus stop   from high school.  

[01:58:00] Duuude-Ron :

Really?   Yep.   Okay.  

[01:58:04] Rich Chelson:

Because the grounds of that   is,   4 blocks.  

[01:58:14] Duuude-Ron :

What   were you trying to do? Exercise?  

[01:58:20] Rich Chelson:

No. That's why we walked through the capitol building   instead of around it because it was   2 blocks wide by 2 blocks long   is what the grounds or what the capital sits on.  

[01:58:37] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[01:58:39] Rich Chelson:

So we would walk through to save   save energy, conserve energy.   There you go.  

[01:58:46] Duuude-Ron :

You were young.   You had energy to burn. You coulda ran around that thing 6 times and not even be tired.  

[01:58:54] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But I was fucking lazy.   We   we all did it. You know, walking to the bus or, you know, or walking to school.   So but, yeah,   if you ever look at that, I went through that  

[01:59:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. The window in Springfield.  

[01:59:14] Rich Chelson:

Twice a day, every day for 3 years.   Well, until we got a car.   I should say driver's license. So, no, it was just the first,   you know,   sophomore year   and half a junior year.  

[01:59:33] Duuude-Ron :

But check this out. It says Lincoln   is the 73rd   largest city in the United States.  

[01:59:43] Rich Chelson:

What is?  

[01:59:44] Duuude-Ron :

Lincoln.   The town of Lincoln   is the 70 the 3rd large?   70   third.   70 third largest city in the United States.  

[01:59:58] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Okay. I I   I heard you wrong   initially.  

[02:00:06] Duuude-Ron :

I'm  

[02:00:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And what's the I'm sure since you're looking it up, what is the actual   census of the last population?  

[02:00:16] Duuude-Ron :

294,757   as of 2023.  

[02:00:21] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So I was way to fuck off.  

[02:00:24] Duuude-Ron :

Well, I mean I mean, at one time, I would say yes. Yes. Nebraska probably was closer to 500,000,   but,   you know   I mean, it's still big for its size,   but I don't see I don't see Lincoln, Nebraska as the mecca   of,   of,   Commerce.  

[02:00:48] Rich Chelson:

No. Because the only thing we have in Nebraska is corn corn,   and then we have a little bit more corn   and soybeans.  

[02:01:00] Duuude-Ron :

Flat.  

[02:01:02] Rich Chelson:

And it is flat as a fucking sheet of paper.  

[02:01:06] Duuude-Ron :

In fact in fact, believe it or not, Kansas has more fucking hills than Nebraska does.  

[02:01:12] Rich Chelson:

And that's not Yeah. Until you get yeah. Until you get into the up into the Panhandle, and then you're starting to hit the,   or the foot what the hell is it? The,  

[02:01:24] Duuude-Ron :

Black Hills.  

[02:01:26] Rich Chelson:

No.   Of Colorado.   The Foothills.   Yeah. Going into Colorado.   They start in the panhandle of Nebraska.  

[02:01:35] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But well,   yeah. You're going south. But going north,   you will run into the Black Hills, and you got,   going into Colorado, you've got the foothills of, the Rocky Mountains.  

[02:01:51] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:01:54] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. I used to   live in Grand Island, Nebraska.  

[02:02:01] Rich Chelson:

You lived in Grand Island?  

[02:02:03] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:02:04] Bryan Goodwin:

Really?  

[02:02:05] Duuude-Ron :

Yes.   Yes. I did.  

[02:02:08] Rich Chelson:

Okay.   Do you know that that   go ahead.  

[02:02:13] Duuude-Ron :

I was gonna say I drove for, a few trucking companies out of Nebraska.   Oh, yeah. I know You ever I know the state of Nebraska well.  

[02:02:23] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Do you ever drive for yellow freight?  

[02:02:25] Duuude-Ron :

Hell, no.  

[02:02:27] Rich Chelson:

Okay. You know they went you know they went bankrupt.  

[02:02:30] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:02:31] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   So you know that now you remember Lincoln used to have the state fair?   Yeah.   Grand Island now has the state fair.  

[02:02:43] Duuude-Ron :

Get out of here.  

[02:02:44] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Yep.  

[02:02:48] Duuude-Ron :

How the how the hell they rate? Well okay. Okay. Grand Island   is is   about the center of the state along 80. I know that. That  

[02:02:59] Rich Chelson:

that is exactly why they moved   the state fair from Lincoln   to Grand Island because a lot of,   you know, the rodeos and so on like that and those kids.   If they're out in the Panhandle up in, what is it, Scotts,   Scottsbluff?  

[02:03:19] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Scottsbluff.  

[02:03:20] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. They would have to go   a whole freaking   drive the whole state of Nebraska   to get to the state fair.   Mhmm. You know, if they're showing animals or if they were doing the rodeo or   whatever for the,   FFA   and all that.   Yeah. No. So in what was it?   It's probably been 20 roughly 20 years now   that,   they moved the state fair to Grand Island   because it was a more centralized   city.  

[02:03:59] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that well,   and, honestly, I mean, yeah, I didn't like Grand Island when I was there any either   because there was   because there's nothing to do.   They have no   oh, seriously.  

[02:04:16] Bryan Goodwin:

I believe it. I believe it. They have  

[02:04:21] Duuude-Ron :

actually,   in and around Grand Island,   any,   body of water that you find,   any fishable   body of water you find is man made.   The ponds, the lakes, stuff like that.  

[02:04:37] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:04:38] Duuude-Ron :

The,   the North Platte River, which   is not even a river anymore.   It just it's a creek,   basically, is what it is. You can't hardly fish yet. So   so, yeah, there there is nothing to do in Grand Island.  

[02:04:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I mean, when you talk about, like,   like, man made,   lakes and stuff, I mean,   Texas and Oklahoma   are basically in the same,   the the same boat.   Texas has actually only one   natural   lake.  

[02:05:21] Duuude-Ron :

Which lake is that?  

[02:05:23] Bryan Goodwin:

What's Ames?   Lake Ames? Something Ames. Let me look it up here.  

[02:05:30] Rich Chelson:

Well, see, if you if you're gonna make the statement, you should have the answer at hand.   Jim and Natalie.   Oh, I gotta look it up.   Well Thanks a lot.   Yeah. The Platte River used to because my grandpa had a,   cabin on the Platte River   in between Lincoln Lincoln and Omaha.   And we go there every year for the 4th July.   Some years, it would be freaking well, he his cabin flooded one time because, the Platte River was up so high.   But then a couple years then a couple years later and, I mean, it was at   that point where my grandpa's cabin was at,   it was half mile   wide to the other side of the bank.  

Right. And   1 year,   we can walk   the sand dune   freaking   all the way across,   and the river was maybe at that point in time,   like,   for not even 30 feet wide, maybe 20 feet wide,   but   and the depth,   maybe up to your waist.  

[02:06:48] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I know. And that's the that's the thing. When I lived in Nebraska, and that was in,   middle nineties,   yeah, you could walk across the Platte River and just walk any place you picked.   Yep. Yep.   Seriously, it was it was it was empty.   And it  

[02:07:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. So those damn pioneers didn't know what the hell they were doing.  

[02:07:11] Duuude-Ron :

Well, no.   They stopped in Nebraska, man.  

[02:07:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Shit. You know what they were doing. Oh, this is I I just know on on Oregon Trail, when you got up to the Platte River, you know, that was the the first big river. You usually lost half your your wagon party.  

[02:07:27] Duuude-Ron :

Well Yeah.  

[02:07:29] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. You know why? You know why? 1800.   You know why that happened?  

[02:07:35] Bryan Goodwin:

Because they couldn't cross the river. They didn't know that you couldn't walk across. They thought they were they were trying to they were trying to float across dirt. They figured couldn't figure it out. No. They they didn't use the fucking interstate bridge. Oh, well, there you go. That makes sense. Go over it. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. I forgot about that damn interstate bridge. I mean, come on, man. Jee whiz. So but yeah. Nope. I was wrong. It's the only natural   lake in Texas is Cato Lake   or Caddo Lake.   And,   yeah. And it's actually,   apparently, it was created   from a, located on the Texas, Louisiana border. Cato Lake was formed by a log jam of fallen trees that created a natural dam on the Red River.  

That dam caused the water to back up into the Red River's tributaries, forming Cato Lake.   However, some say the Cato lake is more of a swamp and is slowly turning into a lake due to manmade dams.   So   little bit of an argument, but about it, but at the same time, that's, that's the only actual   natural   lake   in in Texas.  

[02:08:44] Duuude-Ron :

And say that's weird because you'd think,   what the river is running through Texas,   they would have more,   natural lakes.  

[02:08:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Nope. No. All the all the lakes are all the all the other lakes are reservoir lakes.  

[02:09:02] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.   Apparently,   there's a movie made about   made about Catawh Lake.  

[02:09:13] Bryan Goodwin:

Uh-huh. Yeah. And Oklahoma only has 2 natural lakes, and that's Lake Oxbow and Playa Lakes.  

[02:09:21] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:09:23] Rich Chelson:

So I  

[02:09:25] Duuude-Ron :

did not know that.  

[02:09:28] Rich Chelson:

And I still can't afford a fishing boat, so I'm not gonna visit either one of them   for that matter.   And it's a little hard to wheel through a lake with a Jeep.  

[02:09:39] Bryan Goodwin:

No. You just gotta get big enough tires on there.   Yeah. You gotta get flotation tires, dude. I was gonna say you get, I've seen those people with the with the,   on their tricycles that they've gone off and aired up the tires really big, and they just up there just paddle across the lake.  

[02:09:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. I've seen that.   Yeah.   No. No. Thank you. No?   I can't fucking fucking barely afford the ones that are on there now. Hell, those are   over $300   each.   That's a little high.   Yeah. When you buy 5 of them.  

[02:10:17] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That's expensive.  

[02:10:19] Bryan Goodwin:

It is expensive.   But you've only got 4, 4 wheels on your tire on on your Jeep. So what do you need the 5th one for? Spare, Jeep. Well,  

[02:10:30] Rich Chelson:

you better have the fucking spare.  

[02:10:32] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you get a tire that gets tired of work being a being a tire. And so it,   it it it runs off on you.  

[02:10:42] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, especially if you're rock crawling and you get a rock on the sidewall of the tire and  

[02:10:47] Bryan Goodwin:

blow all of it. It makes makes for a very bad day.  

[02:10:51] Rich Chelson:

Makes for yeah. Makes for a very   long day.   Yes. It does.  

[02:10:56] Duuude-Ron :

And you have to match.   Okay.  

[02:10:59] Bryan Goodwin:

You have to match. Yeah. That's true.  

[02:11:02] Duuude-Ron :

You cannot  

[02:11:04] Bryan Goodwin:

cannot have a a a a Cooper   and a Michelin.   I don't even know if it's a Michelin. No. I I do,  

[02:11:17] Rich Chelson:

what do I do?   I don't even fucking remember what I have on the Jeep, but when I had my wheeling tires, yeah, I had 3 different brands   of tires.   Yeah. Wow.   Yeah. But right down the road. Uh-huh.   Yeah. Well, driving down to the park and back. Yeah.  

[02:11:38] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. But I'm talking everyday driving, dude.  

[02:11:41] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. No.   Uh-uh. No. They got changed out when I got back.   And but I'm not doing that shit no more.   So   got rid of them.   Yeah. I ain't changed out fucking 4 tires   the night before,   go wheeling,   and then the Sunday after,   change all the fucking tires out again.   Now that that shit got old.   Right.   And so am I. Old.  

[02:12:12] Duuude-Ron :

You're not old, dude.   You just think you're old.  

[02:12:17] Bryan Goodwin:

You're just well seasoned.  

[02:12:20] Duuude-Ron :

There you go.   Yeah. Little soft.  

[02:12:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Well, the   the joints are   a fucking breakfast cereal.  

[02:12:31] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, w d 40. It'll fix it.   I know.  

[02:12:37] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But see, it's it's rice krispies in the morning.   Snap, crackle, and fuck you.   Fuck you. That's what my advice is. Now you know what? What's w d 40?   I mean, what does w d 40 stand for?  

[02:12:51] Bryan Goodwin:

Water displacement formula 40.  

[02:12:54] Rich Chelson:

There you go. Okay.   Mhmm. We got a smart guy in the crowd.  

[02:13:02] Bryan Goodwin:

It's one of the few things I'm smart about.  

[02:13:04] Rich Chelson:

Let me rephrase that statement.  

[02:13:08] Bryan Goodwin:

Just kidding. I've got a a you've got a you've got a, a purveyor of useless knowledge   in in the crowd.  

[02:13:19] Rich Chelson:

Okay. You wore, you wore dog tags when you were in the   in the navy. Right? Yep.   Okay.   Besides the fact   for that chain   holding your dog tags,   what's the other main purpose   for those 2 chains?  

[02:13:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I've heard what you've talked about on the chains is 1 is,   for the days. Yeah. You've you've mentioned those. The day days and the months.  

[02:13:49] Rich Chelson:

Or Yep. So yeah.   Yeah. Days weeks. Days weeks weeks. Yeah. Yep. I was gonna say If be if being a POW.   Yep.  

[02:14:00] Bryan Goodwin:

Yep. And Yeah. Your wife. But it it's it's a long it's gonna be a long day,   being held if you if you end up becoming a POW on, yeah,   on on the ocean because it usually means you're you're a POW of Davy Jones. So  

[02:14:19] Rich Chelson:

well, I'm not really a POW of Davy Jones. You're either   yeah.   You're either alive or dead.  

[02:14:30] Duuude-Ron :

Well, that's what he means by Davy Jones.  

[02:14:32] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha.   Yeah.   Yeah. Davy Jones. So what does the what does the notch in the dog tags do? That's for you to slam into your mouth.  

[02:14:44] Duuude-Ron :

Yep. Well, not  

[02:14:46] Bryan Goodwin:

yours. You're dead. Well, not yours. Yeah. You're dead dead, but that would be shoved into your mouth and.  

[02:14:53] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. And your jaw gets   kicked close   or you break the jaw and it,   locks the dog tags in for,   just,  

[02:15:05] Bryan Goodwin:

For identification.  

[02:15:07] Rich Chelson:

Identity. There you go. That's what I was looking for.   Yep.  

[02:15:11] Duuude-Ron :

So they know who you are, man.  

[02:15:15] Rich Chelson:

So they know whose mama they have to send you back to.   Yep.  

[02:15:23] Duuude-Ron :

Hey.   Y'all wanna buy a shrimp and boat?  

[02:15:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, we got a name of Jada.  

[02:15:29] Duuude-Ron :

We can.  

[02:15:31] Bryan Goodwin:

I got that Jada's.  

[02:15:34] Duuude-Ron :

It's, it's,   31 foot ready to go. $28,500.  

[02:15:42] Bryan Goodwin:

Alright. Who who's gonna be who's gonna be lieutenant Dan?   You gotta get your magic legs.  

[02:15:51] Rich Chelson:

Well But who's gonna but who's gonna be Forrest?   That's the question.  

[02:16:00] Duuude-Ron :

That is the question.  

[02:16:03] Bryan Goodwin:

I can't run that far or that fast or anything like that, but I I I can I can be I can be somewhat stupid?   I can take things very literally.   Yeah. No. I because you told me, toadrelts.   Yeah.   Run, Forrest.  

[02:16:24] Rich Chelson:

Run, please. That's That's that's   one dumb son of a bitch.   When he when he starts playing college ball. Yeah.   So   $28,000.   How many fucking holes has gotten the fucking goddamn hole?  

[02:16:43] Duuude-Ron :

It's float ready, dude.  

[02:16:46] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[02:16:47] Duuude-Ron :

It's a 31 foot skiff ready to go, decked over 12 by 16 frames,   holds 35 to 40 boxes.   Yeah. It's yeah. It's yeah. It's freaking outfitted.  

[02:17:00] Bryan Goodwin:

I was gonna say there's a, there's a guy, that I see on YouTube from time to time,   and he is actually,   refurbishing   a a boat, but I think he's wanting to do crabs with it.  

[02:17:17] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Oh, yeah. And see, see that thing down here? I mean, look on Facebook marketplace.   You can find boats, shrimp and boats. Hell, I found 80 foot,   shrimp and trawler   for,   like, 40,000,   and that was decked out. In fact, there's a,   I was looking at this one the other day. I ain't got the money. It's 19.   But, it's a   196240   foot trawler, say a   say a say a Penobscot   Trawler.   And it was built in Maine,   and, the last 3 owners lived aboard in it.   And, yeah, they just want 19,000 for it, and it's been mostly redone.   Oh, yeah. A bunch of  

[02:18:05] Rich Chelson:

I was gonna say how much you you paid 19,000, but how much you're gonna have to put into it?  

[02:18:11] Duuude-Ron :

Nah. No. This one here, this one,   looks like it's it's   mostly ready to go.   Turnkey?   Yeah.  

[02:18:22] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's gonna be my next hot rod. I ain't building another one of those motherfuckers.  

[02:18:28] Duuude-Ron :

Well, buy a boat, dude.  

[02:18:31] Rich Chelson:

No. I will.  

[02:18:33] Duuude-Ron :

I mean, come on, man.   Come down to the gulf, buy a boat, and let's go hit the islands, man.   There's, like, 4 or 5 islands not not very far offshore   that I hear a lot of people go to during the summertime, especially.  

[02:18:50] Rich Chelson:

That are habitable?  

[02:18:55] Duuude-Ron :

No.   You can't live in New Haven because   they're a part of the national,   seashore.   Oh, okay. You can   go you can go drive your boat out there and park your boat, go hang out on the beach.  

[02:19:11] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Uh-huh. I gotcha.  

[02:19:16] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, there's yeah. There's freaking boats out here all day long.   I just look at them every once in a while   and dream.  

[02:19:27] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Well, if I win the lottery,   I'll buy you a fucking shrimp   and boat and you can have 12 jennies.  

[02:19:37] Duuude-Ron :

That would be awesome.  

[02:19:38] Rich Chelson:

But you know what? Some lucky fucking bastard outside of the state of Texas   won it   last   Friday,   and it was $540,000,000.   So the lump sum payout, roughly half. So   $270,000,000?  

[02:20:01] Duuude-Ron :

That's enough to live on.  

[02:20:05] Rich Chelson:

Yep. So you're gonna pay probably about 70,000,   $70,000,000   in taxes.   Yeah. I think I could probably live on $200,000,000   for   at least a couple of years.  

[02:20:18] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hang on. Hang on.   Check this out.   I found out in the Mississippi.   In fact, Mississippi,   just within the last, like, 5, 6 years,   just got the lottery.   Okay.   State of   had had lottery. I didn't know that. And   Mississippi,   on your winnings, they only charge 3%   sales tax.  

[02:20:48] Rich Chelson:

You mean, inheritance tax?  

[02:20:51] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[02:20:52] Bryan Goodwin:

On lottery winnings. 3%. Lottery winnings is income. Yeah.  

[02:20:57] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay. Yeah.   Only 3%.  

[02:21:01] Duuude-Ron :

3%.   Yes.  

[02:21:03] Bryan Goodwin:

I look And they wonder why there's such a, such a poor state.  

[02:21:12] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. But okay. 3%,  

[02:21:13] Bryan Goodwin:

but the federal's gonna take a lot more than that. Oh, no. The federal still take their, you know, their full 30. You know?  

[02:21:20] Duuude-Ron :

37% is  

[02:21:22] Bryan Goodwin:

what federal takes. Yes. I know it was yeah. I know it was over 30, but  

[02:21:27] Duuude-Ron :

well, that's that's what that's what I when when I was looking up what what Mississippi took as far as state taxes   Uh-huh.   It said 3%.   But in that same article, it said that the feds take 37%.  

[02:21:44] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.   Okay. So I wouldn't have 2 170,000,000   at the end. I would have what? A 100   and a 180,   190,000,000   at the end? Yeah. I think I could still fucking live a couple years on that.   Oh, okay. Easily. Yeah. Easily.  

[02:22:03] Duuude-Ron :

And check this out. I just looked it up. Mississippi   does not   have an inheritance tax nor a gift tax.   So  

[02:22:15] Rich Chelson:

yeah. But there's still a well, for a gift tax, there's still a federal   regulation on it.  

[02:22:21] Bryan Goodwin:

So there's a federal regulation on inheritance too.  

[02:22:25] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Uh-huh.  

[02:22:26] Duuude-Ron :

But I I think that's the same thing, isn't it?  

[02:22:30] Bryan Goodwin:

No. No. No. There's   you can give  

[02:22:33] Rich Chelson:

So, like, if I win the lottery,   I can give you   up to 15 I think it's $15,000   lump sum,   and you do not have to report it on your income tax. Oh, hang on. But there is but there is a cap. Yeah.  

[02:22:51] Duuude-Ron :

Hang on here. The,   it  

[02:22:55] Rich Chelson:

And it may have went up. I don't know. How much can you inherit  

[02:22:59] Duuude-Ron :

without paying federal tax? In 2024,   the first $13,610,000   of an estate is exempt from taxes.  

[02:23:12] Rich Chelson:

Okay. So how much is the max gift   that you can give or receive   without paying taxes on it? Does it say?  

[02:23:22] Duuude-Ron :

Let me let let me Yeah. Okay.   Yeah. That was that was on a inheritance.   How much can you give?   18,000  

[02:23:35] Rich Chelson:

annually. 18. Okay.  

[02:23:37] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Yeah. You can give up to 18,000   per year without having to report it to the IRS.  

[02:23:46] Rich Chelson:

And And that's receiving. That's receiving. Right?  

[02:23:50] Duuude-Ron :

No. You can give someone   up to 18,000   per year.  

[02:23:55] Rich Chelson:

Right. Where they where they do not have to pay any taxes on it.  

[02:24:01] Duuude-Ron :

No. It just says,   it just   the way it reads in 2024,   you're allowed   to give   someone   up to 18,000   per year   without having to report it.   Now  

[02:24:17] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. And that without   having to report it, that's the receiver   does not have to report it.   Now I would report it. I don't have to say who I gave it to. I can just give an amount   and that would reduce my tax liability.  

[02:24:44] Duuude-Ron :

Well, this says, how much can you gift without federal tax?   $18,000   per person.  

[02:24:52] Rich Chelson:

Okay.  

[02:24:53] Duuude-Ron :

So you can give 20 motherfuckers   $18,000   each, and you don't have to report it. Now  

[02:25:00] Rich Chelson:

And neither do they.  

[02:25:11] Duuude-Ron :

Hang on. Let me see.  

[02:25:25] Rich Chelson:

So okay. Let's say it was $18,000.   So if I won the lottery and I give you $18,000,   you would just have to come up with about $1500,   and you could buy yourself a shrimp and boat.  

[02:25:38] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Pretty much. Or find a cheaper one.   Yeah. Okay.   Okay. This is from H&R Block. It says, generally,   the answer to do I have to pay taxes on a gift   is this. The person receiving a gift   typically does not have to pay a gift tax. The giver, however,   will will generally file a gift tax return   when a gift exceeds the annual gift tax exclusion amount which is   $18,000 in 2024.   So yeah. No.   A receiver doesn't have to.   But   if if if if your bank sees a $18,000   deposit,   you're gonna have to tell the IRS about it because   the bank will automatically tell   the,   the IRS.  



[02:26:36] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Not if I give it to you well?   No. Not necessarily.   If you go Well, they may made it they may tell the IRS, but up to $18,000,   IRS can't do anything.  

[02:26:51] Duuude-Ron :

Right. But but you see, this is the Yeah. There yeah. All banks all banks have to have anything   $10,000 and over, all banks have to report to the IRS.  

[02:27:02] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah. Uh-huh.  

[02:27:05] Duuude-Ron :

So because, like,   like, when I got my back pay,   you know, on   on on my VA disability.  

[02:27:13] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:27:14] Duuude-Ron :

It was it was well more than than $10,000.   The IRS got told about it, you know. IRS Uh-huh.   You know? Because it's nontaxable. They're like, yeah. We, you know, we don't give a shit. But by law, banks have to   disclose that information.  

[02:27:31] Rich Chelson:

Right. Yeah.   So Well, see, we wouldn't have to worry about it because I just bring you $18,000   in cash.  

[02:27:38] Duuude-Ron :

That'd work too.  

[02:27:40] Rich Chelson:

You turn around, take that same cash, and, you know, give it to the boat owner.  

[02:27:46] Duuude-Ron :

I'd go buy a shrimp and boat.  

[02:27:48] Rich Chelson:

And go buy a shrimp and shrimp and boat. I'd  

[02:27:52] Duuude-Ron :

buy my.   I would too. I'd buy a shrimp and boat, man.   Thing is I I don't know where I would dock it. I would have to research.   I've I've looked at what it costs for dock slips, and they're they're different,   you know, different prices. I mean, not bad, really.   Or well   well, it all depends on the size of the boat too.  

[02:28:21] Rich Chelson:

That's a big thing, the size of the of the boat.  

[02:28:25] Duuude-Ron :

But, I mean, still, it's it's   it's it's actually   or your most normal, like, I I guess up to, like, 30 foot boats, 25 footers.   25 to 30 foot. You could probably get away with a   a dock fee of   $150   a month.  

[02:28:46] Rich Chelson:

Plus Yeah. No. I don't   I don't think so.   Plus fuel, plus   this, plus that, plus insurance.  

[02:28:57] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. No. No, dude. The,   the 150 is just for the just to park the boat in the dock.  

[02:29:06] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.  

[02:29:07] Duuude-Ron :

That's not adding fuel or anything else. That's on you.   Yeah.   You know? But, I mean,   you know, it you know, you know, it depends on the size of the boat.   You know,   if the boat holds 200 gallons,   you fill it up once,   and you're good for a while.  

[02:29:28] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Possibly. Yeah.   Well And see, I would I would forego the slip fee of a $150   and I just do like the black pearl and,   you know, anchor it out a little bit and use the ding Dun dun dun dun dun dun.  

[02:29:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Start walking around like  

[02:29:46] Rich Chelson:

And use the dinghy to come aboard or come up on land. Right.  

[02:29:53] Duuude-Ron :

That would save you some money.  

[02:29:56] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. It would save you some money.  

[02:29:59] Duuude-Ron :

Do you know where the black pearl was built at?  

[02:30:05] Rich Chelson:

No clue.  

[02:30:06] Duuude-Ron :

Bayou La Batre, Alabama.  

[02:30:13] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah?  

[02:30:14] Duuude-Ron :

Yes. It was. Look it up.   Disney,   there's a shipbuilder   in, Bayou La Batre, and Disney went to them. And they used,   80 or 90 foot oil tanker   as the base for the Black Pearl.  

[02:30:33] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[02:30:35] Duuude-Ron :

I looked it up one time because I I was like   because I   I had read somewhere   where a ship was made, and I'm like, oh, that's cool. And then I just started thinking of other ships, and   I was like, where was this one made? Where was this one made? Where was this one made?   I'm   weird like that. But yeah. Yeah. The Black Pearl was,   was,   Yeah. Made in Bayou La Batre.  

[02:31:04] Rich Chelson:

I bet you probably all the ships from that move we were made there.  

[02:31:09] Duuude-Ron :

I don't know.  

[02:31:11] Rich Chelson:

You know, because you had the Black Pearl. You had the   oh,   damn, the not ghost ship, but the,   the pirate ship that,   yeah, had all the aquatic   creatures on it.  

[02:31:36] Bryan Goodwin:

Talking about, the Flying Dutchman?  

[02:31:39] Rich Chelson:

The Flying Dutchman. Yeah.   I bet you that was probably   also made there. I'm sure they I'm sure for that movie, they had all those ships built.   You know, the ones that were   seen close-up,   you know, probably all built there.  

[02:31:58] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:32:01] Rich Chelson:

But   I have never researched it, so I have no freaking clue.   And probably won't research it because   I'll be going to bed. And then I will have forgotten by the time I wake up in the morning,   what the hell we even talked about. Hell, I don't even remember what the hell we talked about at the beginning of this show.   Why? Because   I'm just dumb.  

[02:32:38] Duuude-Ron :

I remember when I listened to it   this weekend.  

[02:32:43] Rich Chelson:

Well, then you'll get to hear what me and Brian   talked about you while you were gone.  

[02:32:49] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Right.  

[02:32:50] Rich Chelson:

Yep. So  

[02:32:52] Duuude-Ron :

Actually, the, flying dutchman prop used in the Pirates of the Caribbean films,   Dead Man's Chest and at World's End, was actually Uh-huh. Was actually located at Kay Lagoon on Disney's private island, Castaway Cay.   It was a prop,   and they just,   I guess, with   camera angles and stuff like that,   it looks like a full size boat.   But, yeah, it was just docked in,   on their island,   on Disney's island,   and,   it was used to,   film the scenes.  

[02:33:30] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, and I'm I'm over at, 1st class sailing dot com. I came across yes. The Black Pearl was a real ship.   The Black Pearl ship in real life is actually called Sunset. And if you're wondering what type of ship the Black Pearl is, in the, real life, she's a 109 foot propeller driven boat that has, had once serviced oil derricks in the Gulf of Mexico. However, from the outside,   she looked very much looked like a tall ship straight out of the 18th century during production of,   of the,   curse of the black pearl. The set was,   built onto the barn,   onto a barge while convincing,   a convincing set was   built,   and looked great on film. The size of the deck was limited to the dimensions of the barge, making filming a challenge.  

But, for second film, Dead Man's Chest, a new approach was taken. The producers wanted a seaworthy vessel this time. So the black pearl   was a real ship, but only the first, pry, Pirates of the Caribbean, but only in the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie. It's believed that the sunset also known as, the real black pearl ship is now docked in   Hawaii.  

[02:34:46] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, wow.  

[02:34:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Well,  

[02:34:51] Rich Chelson:

alrighty then.   I'll   agree to disagree to agree to what you just said.  

[02:35:02] Bryan Goodwin:

See. And, the HMS Interceptor   is a, a 112 foot,   brig. Lady Washington is actually a replica of the original 18th century ship   by the same name.   Built in Washington State USA   in in 1989, she would be used for various media from film to television. Her first known appearance was the USS Enterprise in the movie star, Star Trek generations being used in the film in TV for many years. She wound she would end up playing the role of the HMS Interceptor in Curse of the Black Pearl.   HMS Bounty   is also known as the Edinburgh Trader,   and HMS Bounty was built in 1960 by Smith and Roland, in Luneburg,   Nova Scotia for the film Mutiny on the Bounty.  

And she portrayed the notorious ship, the British Royal Navy ship of the same name since it was, built specifically for filming. It was constructed with unusually large rooms, and she was used in the second film of dead man's chest as the Edinburgh trader, a merchant ship destroyed by the Kraken.   So yeah.  

[02:36:12] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I was looking something up the other day,   about ships. Right?   Our ships are, you know, navy ships.  

[02:36:21] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.  

[02:36:23] Duuude-Ron :

And I can't remember the exact names.   I I I would I would have to look it back up again and   find it again, but it was funny.   Some of the,   ships names,   the the older ships   came from,   came from the confederate navy  

[02:36:45] Bryan Goodwin:

ships from back during the civil war. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. I believe that.  

[02:36:50] Duuude-Ron :

I because   I   I   say whatever I was reading or watching or where or whatever,   I was seeing the names. I'm like, what?   I'm like and then and then it said that that it was,   I'm like, that's a navy ship thing.   And, yeah, sure enough, it was. I was like, oh my god. That's freaking crazy.   But I can't I can't remember the names. There was 2 or 3 that I recognized.   And I wanna say the Sumter was 1.   Because,   if if I remember right,   this ship here   was,   was one that that my grandfather   was on when,   he was,   in the navy.   Yeah. The yeah. This is yeah. This is one of them.   The, USS Sumter   was actually the former CSS   General Sumter.  

So it so it was   it was a Confederate States Navy   vessel in the Civil War.  

[02:38:11] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's that would make sense because there is a Fort Sumter.  

[02:38:15] Duuude-Ron :

Right? Yep.   And  

[02:38:19] Rich Chelson:

I was gonna say that myself.  

[02:38:22] Duuude-Ron :

So yeah. No. It was just cool because I I was just like you know, I didn't realize   that,   you know, some of the names of these ships, they had   they had just carried them over, you know. Oh, yeah.   I was like, it was just yeah. Say I'm I'm, you know, I'm a I'm a geek like that. I'm weird.   Nothing wrong with it? Oh, no. I mean, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it.   That's just me. That's just who I am.  

[02:38:53] Rich Chelson:

I'm a geek. You're not part of the geek squad, Hud. Right? Oh, fuck that. I don't know.  

[02:39:00] Duuude-Ron :

I I mean,   yeah, the Geek Squad,   they just glorified   fucking call center. That's all they are.  

[02:39:09] Bryan Goodwin:

Not even a not even a call center. They're just   they're just   overly   glorified just repair to repair techs. So  

[02:39:19] Duuude-Ron :

If that Well, they and it didn't say anything they actually succeeded in repairing. They just, you know Well, no. That's true. Because, yeah, if you call them, first thing they'll ask, did you reset your computer?   Okay. Well, try that and then call us back. Yeah. Or or, you know, did you try this, which is something like stupid fucking simple? I mean, yes. I get it. A lot of the people that call you  

[02:39:45] Bryan Goodwin:

don't know this, but They they they have a hard time realizing that there are 2 buttons on the mouse. What do you mean right click?   Right. Right. You see the 2 buttons on that on that mouse you're using? Yeah. Okay. You got one on the left. Correct? Yeah. That's the one you use to click on everything. Yeah. Try the wrong on the right. Oh, I didn't know you could just click on with the right one.   And sad to say Yes. Yes. You can. Yeah. Sad to say that that is actually true. You know? Oh, no. I did tech support for   several years,   for,   for home dial up Internet. And, yeah, that was,   yeah. No. Uh-uh.  

Actually, I even did it, did,   calls an actual call center. Stream International is the name of the the company, and we did, did tech support for back when,   Roadrunner,   cable Internet   was just coming out.  

[02:40:49] Duuude-Ron :

Okay.  

[02:40:51] Bryan Goodwin:

And so What does the so what does that button  

[02:40:54] Rich Chelson:

do on the right? Just an alternative,  

[02:40:57] Bryan Goodwin:

just all, alternative commands. So you right click on it's like if you take your mouse   and you take it down to the, down to the the start bar, which is that bar down at the bottom of your windows,   you right click on it, it'll give you options,   give you different options. One of them being you can pull up the task manager instead of trying to teach teach somebody to do a control alt delete   because that really fucks them up because they think they press control,   then they press,   alt, and then they press delete, and it's like, no. No. Push and hold the control down. Okay.   Now   while that's pressed down, hold alt.  

Okay.   Alright. Now while those are still pressed down,   press delete. All at the same time? Yeah. Yeah. All at the same time. Well, I got you. I can't reach that far.   Do you have another hand?   No. You got 2 hands. Right? Yeah. Okay. Use your other hand. Okay. Hold up. Clog clog clog.   Click   clog clog.   Nothing's hap oh, oh, wait a minute. Something is doing something now.  

[02:42:06] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Yeah. Or like if you're on a webpage and you right click, you can copy and paste. And you'll, John Pizzarelli: That's where you get copy your paste. You can you right click on, what used to be whenever you had the,  

[02:42:20] Bryan Goodwin:

my computer on the, on the homepage   or the home screen,   you can actually right click on it and go into,   go into compute your the properties   and   and mess with the mess with the settings. It was just a quicker way of getting to it instead of going all the way down to start, going to control panel,   go on looking around in control panel to find, my computer or whatever it's called. I've not I've swapped over to to Mac these days, so I can't even tell you all the steps anymore.  

[02:42:52] Duuude-Ron :

That but but that's the thing. You can't find the my computer  

[02:42:56] Bryan Goodwin:

icon to to even look at that. Nowadays, no. No. So the Windows like, oh, we we don't want you to do that. We don't want you figuring out how to do that. You don't worry about it. You don't need to go over. You don't need to go to my computer. It's like, well, except for you do.  

[02:43:09] Duuude-Ron :

Hey, Brian.   Yeah. It's it's,   you you hit the main screen and hit settings. Everything's right there.   You're you're   on my computer?   Yeah. It's in setting. Yeah. Well  

[02:43:26] Bryan Goodwin:

And it's very easy to find. Well, it was easier to find when it was on your desktop.  

[02:43:33] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well, things have   I don't know. Honestly, if you ask me, this is easier for me. Or, actually,   you can just,   in the search bar on your taskbar?  

[02:43:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, yeah. You can also just type in what you're looking for. Yeah. So, you know, like programs.   You know, you can find your program manager that way.  

[02:43:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.  

[02:43:59] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Windows. Yeah. Windows does that. Which throws a lot of the new kids off because they're looking for apps.   It's like, it's the same thing, dude. Great.  

[02:44:11] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, no, man. It's not an app.  

[02:44:14] Bryan Goodwin:

Not an app, man. Yeah. It's an app. It's an app. That's what we used to call it. App is short for application.   Otherwise known as an EXE file.   Or you really wanna throw somebody a look for a look for the, batch file.   The what file? The batch file.  

[02:44:35] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, that'll fuck them up. Yeah.  

[02:44:39] Bryan Goodwin:

What's a batch file? You look around for the one that says dot bat.  

[02:44:43] Rich Chelson:

Oh, oh, okay.   And and for Ron?  

[02:44:49] Duuude-Ron :

No.  

[02:44:51] Bryan Goodwin:

It's just a, it's just a way of being able to run a batch   of commands   all at the same time.  

[02:45:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. But, dude, yeah, that's something you would never do even if   you knew computers.  

[02:45:07] Rich Chelson:

Right.  

[02:45:08] Duuude-Ron :

Because that stuff, that's that is, like,   yeah, way into programming shit and,  

[02:45:15] Bryan Goodwin:

you know, other shit, which 99% of the people don't do. Yeah. Well, I I used the batch file. I would put the batch file in the startup folder   just so that whenever I started my computer up, it would be   you know, it would open up, say, Chrome,   the,   on a particular page, a   it would open up about 4 different,   4 different programs that I actually   used on a regular basis.  

[02:45:43] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Well,   you can do that in, startup now.  

[02:45:48] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, I know, but it was easier just to write out a batch file and then just drop it in there.  

[02:45:54] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, yeah. Back in the day, dude. I'm talking today.   Years ago. I'm talking today.  

[02:46:02] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, nowaday, I just turn my computer on and turn the turn the Mac on and it goes bong, bong, bong, bong, and  

[02:46:10] Duuude-Ron :

yeah.   On, I do the same thing with my windows.   Just turn it on and the shit I want comes up. As soon as I click it, it comes up to the page I want.   I ain't gotta write no badge file.  

[02:46:27] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, goodie for you.  

[02:46:32] Rich Chelson:

You're you're so special.  

[02:46:36] Bryan Goodwin:

There's a reason why he didn't have paste in his house.  

[02:46:40] Duuude-Ron :

Actually, I do. I had to use it the other day, though.  

[02:46:43] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, what? Resist the temptation.  

[02:46:47] Rich Chelson:

What? Like, crayons and have lunch?  

[02:46:50] Duuude-Ron :

No. No. No. My I've got a dresser. I've   I've had this dresser now, god, since, I think, 2014,   2015.   And I got it for a buck. Okay? I mean, it's old as hell.   And it's the drawers are are dovetailed. It's it's and it's real wood.   That's why I've kept it.   And   my middle drawer,   I mean, it's so old.   The the the face of it was starting   to dry out and curl,   and it the,   dove the, dovetail joints   were were coming apart.   Yeah. So   so I got some, clamps, some long clamps   and used some Elmer's   glue all   because that's wood glue. That's glue for everything.   And I Yeah.  

I actually,   put a whole bunch of glue on there and then used 4 clamps   and clamped it and let it sit for about 6 hours   and dry. And   my drawer   does not wanna separate from the rest of   the drawer. The drawer face does not wanna separate. It is glued.  

[02:48:12] Rich Chelson:

So  

[02:48:13] Duuude-Ron :

because I love this dresser. It's small.   And and if I have an ass load of clothes, they all won't fit.   But I still love this dresser because of the dovetail joints   and Yeah.   And the way it's made.   So I fixed it   with Elmer's glue   because I refuse to go out and buy fake wood.   I only have one thing made of fake wood in my house and that's my pantry.   That's the only thing.   Everything else is real fucking wood.   Well,   I can't I can't stand fake wood, man. Can't.  

[02:49:00] Rich Chelson:

You just can't stand the fake wood.  

[02:49:03] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I can't.  

[02:49:04] Rich Chelson:

I know.  

[02:49:05] Duuude-Ron :

One is high priced,   expensive,   and it don't last for shit.  

[02:49:11] Rich Chelson:

Don't last for shit. You're right about that.  

[02:49:14] Duuude-Ron :

So I refuse to have it at my house.  

[02:49:19] Rich Chelson:

Well,   I'll Ivy then.   Damn it.  

[02:49:27] Duuude-Ron :

Man, priorities, dude. I got I'm I mean, dude,   I've got a set tee   that's that's   older, I would say, as old as all 3 of us put together probably.   I'm not I'm not exactly for sure   the age of it, but I can get I can guarantee you   it's   at least the late 1800,   maybe early 1900.   And I've got a little show.   Well, a stand. I've got a stand that, that sits behind and is set to you in the corner. It's a corner stand.  

[02:50:08] Rich Chelson:

And Uh-huh.  

[02:50:09] Duuude-Ron :

That thing is is,   I would say,   about the same age.  

[02:50:19] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[02:50:20] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I, yeah, I found a set t for $75.  

[02:50:26] Rich Chelson:

Wow.  

[02:50:27] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   I was I was shocked.  

[02:50:31] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   Well, there should be some type of, manufacturing   mark on the bottom   that might give you the age, you know, the exact age   Yep. Of manufacturing.  

[02:50:43] Duuude-Ron :

Well, if it if it was made in a factory.   That's the thing. I don't I don't know if it was made in a factory.  

[02:50:50] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah. If it was just   made out of pot potting's wheel.  

[02:50:57] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I mean I mean, it's it's,   yeah. The I I mean, this thing here is   and the, thread   oh, man. The the,   stitching on the couch part   is just awesome. The fabric is, it's it's cool as shit.   Y'all need to come down to my house and see this shit. It's cool.  

[02:51:22] Rich Chelson:

I agree. I'll be getting down there I'll be getting down there eventually.   I'm just saying. I still got I still got the dates.  

[02:51:35] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, I still have   I still have that stuff.   I'm still   I'm still looking for a bookcase.   I have found a couple.   I guarantee you I ain't gonna pay what they were asking for, though.   These   these were   bookcases   built in the 1800.   Yeah. The cheapest one I saw was, like, 27100.  

[02:52:07] Rich Chelson:

Yeah.   I wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't buy one either. They did that price.  

[02:52:13] Duuude-Ron :

No. I was like, yeah. No. I ain't about to do that.   They were gorgeous. I mean, they were gorgeous. Do not get me wrong. They were freaking gorgeous.  

[02:52:23] Rich Chelson:

Oh, yeah.  

[02:52:25] Duuude-Ron :

But, yeah, not for   $27100.  

[02:52:30] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Yeah. When it cost maybe   at that time, what, a couple of dollars to produce it?  

[02:52:37] Duuude-Ron :

Right. Yeah. Yep.   Yep.   But see, that's the thing, though.   You have to kinda look at,   you know, it   yeah. It didn't cost much materials wise,   but   the craftsmanship  

[02:53:00] Rich Chelson:

that went in it. You know what I mean? Oh, that yeah. That's the whole thing, the craftsmanship.   There is no   craftsmanship   anymore   whatsoever when it comes to furniture.   No.   Unless unless you find   a very, very specific   person that, you know,   custom makes furniture.  

[02:53:25] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[02:53:28] Rich Chelson:

Yep. Other than that, you ain't ever gonna see it again.  

[02:53:32] Duuude-Ron :

That is true.   Yep.   But, yeah, that's why   that's why I don't do fake wood because I want   you know?   I appreciate   good quality furniture.   Yeah.   You know? And that's just that's just how that works.   Yeah.  

[02:53:54] Rich Chelson:

Well, Brian, it looks like I guess about that time.  

[02:53:58] Bryan Goodwin:

Is it getting alrighty? We had we've had that much fun?   Yes. We have. Dang. I didn't even get to my question yet.  

[02:54:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh, well, get to the fucking question.   Then we can then we can fucking   get to your question. Damn it.   Jesus.  

[02:54:20] Bryan Goodwin:

I I was gonna find out if, if you get $50 every time you got rejected for anything,   a favor, asking someone out, you know, asking for a raise, asking somebody else for $50, you know, for anything, what would you do to make money?   You know, what? You didn't understand that?  

[02:54:46] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. I'm I'm I'm with dude on this one, Brian. I yeah. Okay. Okay. Say,  

[02:54:51] Bryan Goodwin:

I I walked up to you and said, hey, man.   Will you give me your pay give me your Jeep?   Hell no. Hey. There you go. I just made $50. There we go. Alright. I've just made $50.  

[02:55:07] Rich Chelson:

Oh, I see what you're saying. So every time you got rejected,  

[02:55:11] Bryan Goodwin:

you got $50.   So what would you do to make   money?   Well, what what would you go and start asking people to get rejected for?  

[02:55:32] Duuude-Ron :

That's a good question.   Well, would I   go around asking people to get rejected for?   Yeah.  

[02:55:48] Rich Chelson:

Man, that's a deep fucking question.   Wow.  

[02:55:56] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, it doesn't have to be deep. I mean, heck, you could ask everybody all brought anybody that goes up on the Empire State Building, would they be willing to jump off the,   jump off the Empire State Building? They said no. Then, hey. Congratulations. I just got 50 extra dollars every time somebody said no. Well, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I completely understand that, but, you know   All you have to do is just find something that a person would initially   know that they would not Okay.   Wanna do. So, you know, say,   would you walk around with a couple of a couple of cracked eggs in your shorts?  

No. Okay. Well, there you go. You know? You can give up with all sorts of of stuff.  

[02:56:41] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. Here's mine. Let me borrow your car.  

[02:56:45] Bryan Goodwin:

And that is that   borrow or have?   Because you asked to borrow, someone's probably gonna go, okay. Yeah. Sure. Here you go.  

[02:56:52] Rich Chelson:

Okay. Then I wouldn't get the $50 from   that particular   person.   Right. But I would get it from  

[02:57:01] Bryan Goodwin:

9 Someone who actually said no.  

[02:57:05] Rich Chelson:

Well, yeah. And, well,   yeah. And most people, they ain't gonna fucking loan you out a car. Yeah. Go up and go up to the  

[02:57:16] Duuude-Ron :

I got a   Go ahead.  

[02:57:19] Rich Chelson:

I would ask perfectly   good strangers   because I know that there's people that I know   that I if I ask them to borrow their car, they would say, sure.   Mhmm. Put gas in it.  

[02:57:34] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. You can also go to, go to, like, go eat at at Wendy's, then go up there and go ask them if you you have a hamburger refill.  

[02:57:43] Rich Chelson:

Hamburger refill?  

[02:57:45] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. Can I get a refill on my hamburger?  

[02:57:48] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. Or better yet, can I get my,   hamburger flame broiled   at McDonald's?  

[02:57:54] Bryan Goodwin:

Or at Wendy's because they just use a griddle at Wendy's.  

[02:57:58] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. So does McDonald's.   Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Burger King's the only one that has a grill.  

[02:58:05] Bryan Goodwin:

No? Carl I think Carl's Jr. Has has a,   flaming,   a flamer also.  

[02:58:11] Rich Chelson:

I have never been to a Carl's Jr.  

[02:58:15] Duuude-Ron :

What?  

[02:58:17] Rich Chelson:

What? No. I've never been to a Carl Carl's junior.  

[02:58:20] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah.   Hey. Hey. I swear this poor man has lived such a no wonder you had such a hard life, man.  

[02:58:28] Duuude-Ron :

Dude, you ever been to a Hardee's?  

[02:58:31] Bryan Goodwin:

It's better.   Yeah. Yeah. Carl's Jr. Is even better. It's owned by the, it was created by the same family, but   Oh, okay. Because that's where Carl's Jr. Come from is because Carl Hardee's Jr.   Created it.  

[02:58:49] Rich Chelson:

Oh, okay.  

[02:58:50] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah.   Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.   Hey, may I would, I would freak. I would freaking, I, and, and,   you know,   honestly, if, if this here was a fact, I'd be a rich motherfucker already   because   I used to do this, but I never got paid for it.   I would go I would go into a restaurant   and the lady asked,   the waitress come up and ask, what you drinking?   I said, a 5th bourbon.   There you go. Dude, I would be a rich motherfucker   quick   because   just about every restaurant,   regular restaurant, I'm not saying the ones that served alcohol. I'm because   I did that one time. My lady was like, yeah. What kind do you want? Yeah. I was like, honey, I'm driving.  

But but but a regular, like, truck stop,   go in and ask for for a shot of whiskey.   Yeah. You'll be told no every time.   You could make a lot of dag on money.   Yeah?  

[03:00:09] Rich Chelson:

See? Hey. And how how did the term   shot of liquor   come around to be?  

[03:00:17] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, hell. I don't know.  

[03:00:19] Rich Chelson:

In the mid 1800,   somebody come up to a bar   and asked for a shot of,   you know, or glass of   whiskey,   but they didn't have any money.   It was kind of a tradition   to give the bartender   a bullet.  

[03:00:41] Duuude-Ron :

Okay. So,  

[03:00:44] Rich Chelson:

in trade   for that little amount of alcohol,   which, you know,   commonly   become   the saying,   a shot of, you know, shot of bourbon, shot of whatever.  

[03:00:59] Duuude-Ron :

Right.  

[03:01:00] Rich Chelson:

That's how that saying came about from what I've seen on a show that I watch on the Discovery  

[03:01:07] Duuude-Ron :

Channel. No. I didn't believe that.  

[03:01:10] Rich Chelson:

Yep.  

[03:01:11] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No. I would yeah. Yeah. I would definitely,   Yeah. I would I would go into, like, a Waffle House.   You have to be careful there. Someone might pull out a 5th of whiskey.   You have to watch out in a Waffle House, man. They're great, though, man. Food is god. Food is good.   But Yeah.   I would I would definitely,   Yeah. Yeah. Ask a waitress for a, shot of whiskey.  

[03:01:40] Bryan Goodwin:

There you go. Or or Yep.  

[03:01:43] Duuude-Ron :

Or and and I've done this before   too. Well, I used to back in the day.   I used to ask ask waitresses   if I followed them home, would they keep me?   Yeah. I would make a lot of money. I'd be a rich man.  

[03:02:05] Rich Chelson:

Yep. That that I will definitely agree to.   Or better yet, here you go. Go into any   any burger restaurant and say,   I'll gladly pay you Friday   for a hamburger today.  

[03:02:20] Bryan Goodwin:

He would gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.   Yeah. Tuesday, not Friday. Or I knew it, Jay. About that.  

[03:02:27] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.  

[03:02:32] Duuude-Ron :

You see? You make a lot of money that way.   Yep.   You'd be a rich man, dude.   You wouldn't know what to do with all that cash.   But okay. Hang on. Hang on. Let me ask you this, Brian. K.   Who's paying you the $50?  

[03:02:50] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't care. That's not part of the question. I wasn't the one who was asking.  

[03:02:57] Duuude-Ron :

Well, yeah. I wanna know where to hey. Inquiring minds. I wanna know where the money's coming from.  

[03:03:03] Rich Chelson:

Well, it would just be a poo, and there's a $50 bill in your hand. Okay. Alright. I'm good with that.  

[03:03:09] Duuude-Ron :

I'll take a poof for $50.   That did not sound There you go.  

[03:03:15] Bryan Goodwin:

Yeah. Yeah. That did not sound good. No. Nope. Aw. Considering what a poof there is in, in in in Australia.  

[03:03:25] Duuude-Ron :

What is it? A gay dude.   Bro, I did not know that.   Okay. I'm gonna   rethink though that word.  

[03:03:37] Rich Chelson:

Oh, so okay. This is what you're gonna do. Right? Puff   puff   ass.  

[03:03:45] Bryan Goodwin:

Not poof poof ass.  

[03:03:47] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. No. No. Puff puff ass.  

[03:03:51] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. No.  

[03:03:52] Rich Chelson:

No. No. Thank you. I'm good.   I'm right there.  

[03:04:00] Duuude-Ron :

Yeah. That was   where'd you find that question, or did you just come up? No. I've got actually, I've got an app called, Wholesome,  

[03:04:08] Bryan Goodwin:

and it's it's a it's got just a shit ton of questions in them. Oh, okay.  

[03:04:15] Duuude-Ron :

That is a cool question, though. I like that one.  

[03:04:18] Bryan Goodwin:

So   That one. Figured we'd use the fun one instead and and not so much on the romantic one. So  

[03:04:26] Rich Chelson:

Yeah. That's good. So Oh, not again. Not this time of night. Yeah.   Yeah. What? 5 minutes after 10? No. Thank you. We don't need to no.   My brain ain't even working anymore.  

[03:04:38] Duuude-Ron :

No  

[03:04:40] Rich Chelson:

mice. No mice. No mice. No mice.   Yeah. No brain.   So   bam. Alright.  

[03:04:50] Bryan Goodwin:

Since we are at, at past the 10 o'clock mark, we'll go ahead and bring this baby on in   home, and, say thank you very much to everybody who's taking the time to listen to   to share this, this episode out. And because,   man we're, we are doing this because we wanna show men   what it's like   to, to have   a, a, just have a, an intentional time of sitting down and talking with other men.   Are you talking about anything important?   No. We're talking about, you know, what would just what would it take to to if,   or what type of questions would you ask if you, if you were able to get $50 for for being rejected? I mean, it's it's just senseless stuff, senseless questions.   And that's what,   what guys often like to do is we like to sit around and just, we'll just talk about anything that comes to mind at the moment.  

And   that is,   sometimes we can have conversations that last for like we do tonight where it's a little over 3 hours.   There's other times that, yeah, we may talk and it may only be an hour, 2 and a half hours, or maybe only 2 hours.   And it is   because we   are living our life intentionally with   with each other. We are   reaching,   reaching out, touching base with each other, going, hey, how you holding up today?   Because guys,   we do. We we have to have   more   guys being friends   with other guys because we're, we've got a, we've got a, in an instance of too many guys who are just   not living up to what their potential is because they don't have the men around to help lift them up.  

So   that's, that's the original idea of what this podcast was about. And then on top of that, it's like, hey. You know what? It's just kinda fun to be able to sit around and and   and talk with, with some very good friends that I have. And so, yeah, we're we're here when we talk about   dumb, stupid stuff   and other times we talk about serious stuff and it's just, it's, it's fun and, and exciting. And so we do it and we do it,   every week.   And we do this in a value for value model, which means that   instead of throwing mattress commercials at you   or, or other types of,   of ads that have no relevance in your life at all.  

I mean, this is,   it wouldn't do us any good to have a show about,   had,   have a show going. And then in the middle of it, all of a sudden have a, commercial for Tampax tampons.   It just doesn't do it. It doesn't serve a purpose.   Do we have women listening? There's a good chance we do, but at the same time,   it's not relevant to the topics that we're talking about,   even though we may make crack a joke about it from time to time.   So   we don't have to worry about,   you know, the brand safety stuffs,   and,   and all the other,   idiocy that are going on with, with that whole line of thinking where all of a sudden we can't,   You you go watch anything on on YouTube and people are talking about corn and and   self deleting   and and other   stupid means of trying to get around,   to saying   what an actual word is.  

Now, because if you're,   actually, I've got a,   a, a couple friends.   Rich,   is part of the a the same, same group. We all 3 of us actually met because of a, of a   of the, operation tiers of the 22, which is a charity group helping veterans to   to,   to raise awareness about the about veterans   killing themselves and and committing suicide, which is the word that   YouTube wants us to to avoid saying,   but that's what it is.   You have to shine a light   on on what's happening for people to be able to be aware aware of it. And if you're walking around trying this   trying to   raise awareness about something,   saying, well, self deletion is is kind of a dumb way of of of saying   it. But yet that's how so many people on YouTube   and,   other podcasts who are wanting to try to actually advertise   will do because they wanna make sure that they're brand safe. And no, you're you're   when you advertise, you're actually   being,   you're actually doing self   censorship.  

You're you're censoring   what you really can say and what you really would be able to say.   And in in turn,   you're not really   being the true authentic person that you could be.   So we, we are   being   who we are. We're talking like we normally talk. We share our lives   in ways that, you know what, it's gonna offend somebody. And we've gotta be okay with, with taking offense to stuff.   Tiptoeing around everybody   is what's turned the us into the pan in panty wasted   pansies that we are today.   And we've got to stop that. We've got to start being okay with   being who we are   and letting the people who are offended, just be offended.  

And that may seem mean it may seem cruel,   but that's life. Life is not going to go   have a tiger run up to a, to a gazelle and go, Hey, do you mind if it's okay if I eat you today?   No, it's going to do stuff that is that's hard and it's gonna be mean, and it's not gonna be very gentle about   it. And, yes, we are better than than a tiger, but at the same time,   trying to   accommodate everybody's feelings   is impossible. You can   please some of the people, some of the time and all the people, none of the time.   And so we're,   we can't be standing around trying to   make sure everybody   is accounted for and that we have,   that we have affirmed everybody's feelings and we have made sure everybody feels the right thing because it's, it's not worth it. Somebody's going to   not   or is gonna feel left out simply because they wanna be an asshole.  

And so guys, with that, I'm gonna   we we decided to not do advertising.   And we have decided that, yeah, we're just going to do a value for value. If you found any value in what we've done, if you found anything that's caused you to laugh, cry, think, groan, moan, whatever,   then provide what you can   to us. We have a on most,   most   podcast and modern podcasting apps out there, like,   fountain   and Podverse   and and podcast guru. There is a way of being able to support the show.   And you click on one of those, click on that link and it'll take you over to, PayPal. You can actually,   donate some money if you found if, if you have money to be able to donate.  

If you don't, then that's cool. We also have,   time and talent   that you can also provide,   donate over to us. And you can help help us by   doing,   doing chapter art or making, or actually even setting up the chapters.   And these are ways that you can actually spend the time. Say you see something that you you think we need to have,   you can reach out to me. My, my email address is [email protected],   or you can reach out to to Rich. And that's rchelson,   c h e l s o n, at g mail dot com. And let us know, hey. This is my idea of what I wanna do. Sweet. Go ahead. Do it. Get it done. Let's see how it works. Turns out. Let's let's go with this and run.   And so we can, we love to be able to,   to   point to your, your,   your successes that, that you've done to help us become successful.  

And so   there's a lot of different ways that you can help us out just by doing just because we have decided to go to the value for value model instead of doing the, hey,   go buy this mattress model. Because   I don't know of anybody who really wants to go off and spend $1,000   on a mattress that gets way too hot and will eventually break down and will not be worth a damn   in in about 3 years because, nah,   there I've not known many mattresses that are very that especially   mattresses memory foam mattresses. They they the memory foam gives out for after a while. And   I I don't think I would have much, much good to say about, about a memory foam mattress that, that developed Alzheimer's.  

So that's just me though. But anyhow, so Rich, what do you got to say?  

[03:14:45] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, not too much. I'm just glad we still got people listening and downloading our our episode.   I looked. I think we're up to, like, 1534   downloads.   So I I'm, like, I'm, like, really stoked,   and I'm glad I'm glad someone's listening to us because, yeah, like you said, Brian,   sometimes we well, most of the time, we just   talk out our ass, but, you know, there's times when we do get serious and talk about serious things. And,   you know, like you said, that's just   that's the way,   you know, men need to talk and, you know, you know, you need to find a group.   You know, at least one person   that that   helps you become better.  

You know? And that that you can sit there and talk about things and say things how you feel, you know, and not not worry about,   you know, which bathroom   that you need to use.   You know? Just, you know, use the right one for the parts you have,   basically.   So no. But,   you know, that's that's the main thing. We do this to bring enjoyment,   you know, make you laugh, cry, groan, squeal,   whatever.   And,   you know, as, Brian said,   reach out to us. You can email Brian at circle [email protected]   or me,   rich@[email protected].   And if anybody wants to speak with a   dude, then just email either me or Brian, and we will make sure the dude gets the email.  

And I know he would love to,   read the email from you. So you know? And and,   yeah, if you can help out with with some   time or talent or treasure, that would that would be great too because,   you know,   we like to give   when we listen to other people's podcasts, you know, and we ask, you know, if you want, do that.   But, you know, if you're good with, chapter art,   cover art,   you know,   editing, stuff like that, reach out to us because, believe me, we could   we could definitely use,   some ideas because   we're just   3 vets who   are us.  

I don't I don't know if I can say any more to that. So,   anyway, dude, what you got, man?   And dude fell asleep.   Dude, where are you at?  

[03:17:37] Rich Chelson:

Where is he?  

[03:17:39] Bryan Goodwin:

I don't know. He's he's still on the screen. I was gonna say, it looks like he's still on the screen.   Yo,   dude. He's not muted.  

[03:17:48] Duuude-Ron :

No. He's not muted.  

[03:17:50] Rich Chelson:

Dude.   Hello?  

[03:17:55] Duuude-Ron :

I'm whispering   in your ear, dude.   Sweet nothings.   Sweet nothings.   Sweet nothings.   It's, it's,   little rain patter Pitter patter, dude.   It's raining.  

[03:18:17] Rich Chelson:

No. No. Really?  

[03:18:24] Duuude-Ron :

Oh, but you did fall asleep on us?  

[03:18:27] Rich Chelson:

Yep.   Sure did.   Yep.  

[03:18:31] Duuude-Ron :

I I   was just wondering,   you you was awful quiet there, man.  

[03:18:35] Rich Chelson:

No. Just listen to you. Just listen to you.  

[03:18:39] Bryan Goodwin:

Oh, okay. Okay. Well, dude, yeah. Your turn. What do you got to say?  

[03:18:46] Rich Chelson:

As usual, thank you everybody for,   listening to us ramble on about   this, that, and very little of anything,   if nothing at all.   So,   hope you enjoyed,   again, our conversation tonight. It's always wonderful having a   wonderful audience that likes to listen to us. Just hang out. And like,   Brian said, just a bunch of guys standing around or sitting around and just   sometimes have a very serious conversation. Other times, it's like, yeah.   This was this conversation   conversation   met our   meant to about nothing at all. So,   again, it's always great to talk to, the 2 grumpy vets.  

And with me being the dude, it's always wonderful to be able to talk to them on a weekly basis.   So what you got, Brian?  

[03:19:44] Bryan Goodwin:

Well, alright then.   Guys, I would like to say, thanks again. Y'all take care. Any, any requests, comments, thoughts, ideas, again, send them over to, CircaCastgmail   or rchelson@gmail,   And, we will see y'all next week. Till then.   Bye.   Peace.  

[03:20:05] Rich Chelson:

See y'all later.   Peace out.  

[03:20:09] Duuude-Ron :

Later, guys.  

[03:20:10] Rich Chelson:

Later.