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What is the real name of God ??
Joined by Graham Hichens this evening to have what will no doubt be a compelling conversation
In this episode of the Shelley Tasker Show, we delve into a fascinating discussion with Graham Hitchins, a recurring guest and friend of the show. We explore the intriguing topic of God's real name, questioning the traditional narratives and interpretations that have been accepted for centuries. Graham shares insights from the King James Bible, highlighting the plural references to God and challenging the conventional understanding of the Holy Trinity.
We journey through history, examining the First Council of Nicaea and the influence of Constantine, who merged pagan rituals with Christian festivals, altering the calendar and religious practices. Graham sheds light on the translation and transcription of biblical texts, revealing how the original meanings may have been lost or altered over time.
The conversation takes a deep dive into the Old Testament, particularly the story of Jobe, and the concept of Elohim, suggesting a plurality of powerful entities rather than a singular God. We discuss the implications of these interpretations on our understanding of biblical history and the nature of God.
Graham introduces us to lesser-known texts like the Book of Enoch and the Book of Thomas, which offer alternative perspectives and challenge the authority of established religious institutions. We also touch on the historical dispersal of the tribes of Israel and their potential influence on European cultures.
Throughout the episode, we question the accuracy of traditional biblical teachings and explore the possibility of a more personal and direct connection with the divine, as suggested by the Book of Thomas. Join us for this thought-provoking exploration of faith, history, and the search for truth.
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Unknown:
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show coming live out of Radio Soapbox dotcom. It's good to have your company. Today's date is Wednesday, 16th October 2024. I am also streaming live on Rumble. So if you'd like to ask any questions, leave any comments, please do so. So have a great guest lined up for this evening. Friend of the show, friend in my life, I'm very fortunate to say. Have the wonderful Graham Hitchins this evening. Good evening, Graham.
[00:01:28] Unknown:
Good evening. What a wonderful way to describe somebody.
[00:01:31] Unknown:
Well, you are my friend. I know you. Absolutely. A friend of the show. You've been on a few times before. And Thank you, my lovely we always have great conversations. So we were out the other night, and it was like we've reached the topic of God. And it came about that, actually, what is God's real name? And I was like, right. Let's do a show on it. So it's it's god is not his real name. I'm taking it. It's what they call him. It's what they call him. Okay. Where do you wanna start with this, Graham? Because I know it's got so many little bits.
[00:02:04] Unknown:
I'm gonna read you a couple of bits from the King James, which is quite well. And just just just to set the tone, a couple of bits and pieces, I'm gonna go off on a proper old journey. Is that okay with you, John? That's absolutely fine. Right. I've got the King James or the King James version. I'm gonna read from Genesis verse, sorry, chapter 1 verse 26. And it says in my book, I can find it, then god said, let us make man in our image after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea. What I'm getting at is it's talking about us or plural. It's a plural description. And everyone the the Christian church has said for years, oh, it's father it's godfather of the holy spirit.
Not not quite so. Right. The next one I'm gonna read out a bit later. Basically, I'm gonna give you a quick overview of what we've been finding out over the last 5 years. Bearing in mind, I've been brought up in the Methodist Church and the Baptist Church, and, you know, I thought things were pretty straightforward, but they're not.
[00:03:19] Unknown:
Not a lot of stuff is, is it, these days?
[00:03:22] Unknown:
Certainly isn't. Right. Where do I start? First thing I think I'm gonna do is just put a taster out on why I'm gonna refer to the the church as a Catholic church or the church in Rome to start with. I'm gonna go to my notes are all over the shop now because I'm gonna go to the little bit. I'm gonna go to the 1st council of Nicaea, Constantine 3 25 AD, when they this is after they beat the Christians up for 300 years, burned them, threw them to the lions, and thought, well, perhaps we ought to do something about this and accept some of their thing. What they've done, they had about 84 priests and bishops that turned up at this this chitchat at Nicaea to to work out what to do with this newfangled religion.
And it's quite horrifying what they agreed to, really, bearing in mind that Constantine was a very powerful man, and he kind of accepted God in in a in a different package, if you see what I'm just trying to get at. So what the what Constantine did, because he was a very, very I I think you could call him a bit of a, Rishi Sunak or a, not a stoma. I'm not gonna go there. He was a politician. He he played the game, and he played the game with the pagans and this newfangled religion. So what he did, he went back to let me get the Julian calendar, which is 46 BC.
And, it changed the Hebrew calendar, and they chucked that out the window. And it complicated everything. It basically made things in a different if you just for instance, if if you think Christmas is when Jesus was born, then I'm I'm afraid you got a bit of a it's a very disappointing thing because he wasn't born in December. So what Constantine did, he threw all the pagan sorry. All all all the new Christian, festivals like Easter and Christmas with the with the pagan ones. And when I when I say pagan, I mean, Christmas is called it is known as Saturnalia. And Saturnalia in Rome at the time was basically a big rampant orgy for about a week.
They, I think they had a day where they swapped the boss. So for instance, if you had a boss you didn't particularly like, it was your turn to wreak revenge on your boss by swapping positions. And if you wanted to ameliorate him, he couldn't take it out any for the rest of the year. But prior to that, Saturnalia was to do a Kronos, and Kronos ate his own children.
[00:05:59] Unknown:
Oh. So he got this, oh, yeah. It's really, really dark and also Is this in the is this in the actual bible, is it, all this? Oh, no. No. No. Certainly not. No. Oh, it's okay. I was gonna say I've never heard of this story.
[00:06:14] Unknown:
No. You can't put things like that in there. That's called the truth. So, yeah, so, basically, he was combining all these pagan rituals with and and he and he put the this this new religion in these rituals. That's just for the first thing. And then, obviously, the calendar that they butchered around, didn't help things. So so so, you know, everyone thinks that Jesus is born in December or Easter was in April, May, all completely out out of whack. And this is what they discussed in the, the cancer's Lycea in 325. It gets worse.
So so yep. Yep. Yeah. So we could bend from there, and then we're gonna go to they have their own version because, basically, most of the New Testament was written in, Greek. The the the Romans thought we better have our version and put it in Latin. And this this is called the Vulgate, and this goes back to 3 50 AD. And, basically, what you've got is a copy made sometime, and then they copied it again, and then they copied it again. So the whole of the New Testament is in basically the Roman church's hands, and they basically anyone that had anything different was chucked out.
So it's whether Matthew, Mark, and Luke wrote these books is is not clear either. There's they're probably written about them. So this 350 years of copy, and that's the old it goes back 350 AD. So there's a lot of time in between where things were lost, hidden, and one of them well, I'll get to it in a minute. Some of these books have now been recently found from the original texts in, in Hebrew, and it's it's just blows your mind, really. Wow. Yeah. So we've got basically Constantine. He he kind of made Jesus, if you like, an iconography of, when when you look at a Hebrew person, they're not exactly, blue eyed and blonde.
They're they're swarthy. They're in the, you know, they're they're they're brown eyes. But what Constantine did, he he needed, well, I should say, God's support in some of his battles. So he kind of put Jesus as a Roman, dressed him up in all this Roman clobber and put a sword in his hand and all the rest of it. And it kind of so he could justify his his his his his battles. You know, if I've got Jesus on my side, I can't lose all this malarkey. So he he kind of iconography Jesus as this Aryan blue eyed blonde haired hippie kite, which he's not Hebrew, is he? No. No. So he's changed that kind of view, and that kind of stuck with the Western church probably till now, which is quite horrifying.
So yeah. But if you look at the the the other one, it's quite I haven't got time. I mean, I could sit here and read you the whole of the, Nicene Creed. And, basically, he threw they threw everything out of any Hebrew or Jewish influence, completely chucked it out the window, and that included the Sabbath. So the Sabbath is a Saturday. Oh. Right. So Constantine said, nope. We're having a Sunday. Sun worshiping. Okay. So, basically, you've gone from it's gone to pagan worship again, which is Sunday. And, obviously, you're looking at the rest of the calendar, noonday, and all the rest of it, Thursday's thought. So the whole account is being butchered as well.
[00:09:52] Unknown:
Nothing surprises me. But when lies start going back that far, it's like, how many and how much of the recent Bibles that we're reading can we really say is, well, the gospel.
[00:10:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Exactly. Which, I've got I've I've got quite a few bits ready. But we yeah. I think I'm gonna go to, I've done the Genesis one, haven't I? So, basically, you've got I'll just read that again just to top up my memories. It says, then God said, let us make man in our image. So you're looking at the plurality there. You're looking at more than one God. I might as well go straight into this now rather than the other details. So, basically, what you've got then is you've got even some of the Jewish texts and scribes that were captured in Babylon, they started to mask these names of god. So, basically, you've got god creator, which I'll get to his name in a minute, and you've got these other gods underneath god creator, which are in all through the old testament. They've been masked by the priests and the Catholics and all who, you know, the the church of Rome. And one of them is called Elohim.
Elohim mean it is plural, and it's if you go back to the root word I'm I'm gonna mention this guy's name now. He's he's the 5th kind, Paul Wallis. He's an Aussie guy that worked for the Vatican and is an old worked for the Catholic church. But, also, there's a guy called Bellinio, and he's he worked directly for the for the for the Vatican to to get the root meaning of the words. And Elohim means the powerful ones. So it's, again, plural. And above that, you've got Elion, and they all have different names. So what I'm gonna do now, I'm gonna go into Job. I don't know whether you know the story of Job.
[00:11:44] Unknown:
No. I'm not. Well Okay. I don't know much about the Bible, to be honest with you Okay. Thankfully.
[00:11:51] Unknown:
No. Not at all. Well, basically, Job has always puzzled me as a story because basically I'll just read you this first and make up your own decision on this, but it is it's Job, 1. I better write that down so I don't lose my track. That's done. Oh, that's done. Job 1, and it's verse 6. Right. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and Satan. Now I've heard people talking about the Galactic Federation. I thought, you're having a laugh, it sounds like someone had a Star Wars. Okay? But it says it here in Job quite clearly. I'll read it again. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and Satan.
Also came among them, the Lord said to Satan, whence have you come? So the impression you get from this this transiteration here, the Lord said to Satan so everyone is is assuming that the lord is god or or Jesus. Says to Satan, whence have you come, Satan answered the lord, from going to and from on the earth and from walking up and down on it. Okay? So he's having a bit of a walk around. He he's doing a bit of a Mickey Flanagan doing a cockney walk up and down a bit. Right? Now it says, and the lord said to say, have you considered my servant Job? That's like, let's just throw somebody under the bus just for a giggle. That's what happens. And what happens to Job afterwards is is is is horrendous. His family gets killed. His wife doesn't. He loses everything.
And, basically, it's a real test, but the question is who is it from? So if we go back to the original Job manuscripts, it doesn't say God. It says Elohim. And that Elohim has a name. And Elohim has that Elohim has a name, and he's called El Shaddai. If you look up the word El Shaddai in your Hebrew books, it it means a destroyer. So we're not talking about God creator. We're talking about another God under the jurisdiction of God creator, but he's gone feral and nasty. And he thought, oh, not a bit of a laugh here. I'm gonna throw somebody under the bus and see if he he denounces me, and that's called El Shaddai.
Right. I'm trying to I'm trying to take it in. Yep. Yep. Okay. So the whole story of Job is basically some sadistic entity called El Shaddai who is pushing and pushing. It didn't kill him, but he he he killed his family, and he wiped it. But then he he blessed him again because he didn't, you know, you know, denounce this this this this being. And you think, what what sort of thing are we looking at here? It's horrifying. And, unfortunately, the whole of the Old Testament is about warfare and butchering this and butchering that. I've never understood it. Again, back to this verse 6, and it came it's a bit of a shock. You think, hang on a minute. This is a vindictive psychopathic entity we're dealing with here. And then it struck me one morning. I had a bit of a I had a bit of a moment. I walked down and said, hang on a minute. If if it says in, you know, the other old testament bits and pieces that god can't god, the creator, can't look at sin, then how can it be in a I I I look at it as a bit of a pub. They're all having a bit of a knees out having a pub, and all these people come out there, all all all these different gods and sons of god come to, you know, come to this big bar in the sky. Well, what's god doing there? Because he can't look at sin or nastiness.
So he can't be god creator. Do you follow him?
[00:15:43] Unknown:
I think so, but that's not really god.
[00:15:46] Unknown:
No. It it's it's a god Right. Okay. Him Mhmm. Created by God, but he's gone a bit foul just like, you know, if if you go back to, Genesis and the fall and, you know, prior to the to the fall of Adam and Eve, that's another story. We will get brandy one day, possibly. All these entities were lobbed out of the heavenly places because they rebelled. And I'm I'm what I'm trying to get at is that these these, Elohim, the the powerful ones, were part of that people that were thrown out. And what the amazing bit is, they've got names, the these Elohim. And, also, they're in a in an area.
So from my understanding now is that Elohim is possibly the same as Yahweh, which is a desert pagan god in and not god creator. So he's got two names from different areas.
[00:16:43] Unknown:
Oh my god. This is confusing, isn't it?
[00:16:48] Unknown:
Well, yeah. But no. But it is. So what I'm trying to get at is that these these old testament stories, especially Job, we're talking about a vindictive entity called El Shaddai, but he's he is an Elohim. He is one of the powerful ones.
[00:17:07] Unknown:
Okay. Are you with me? Kind of. Kind of. I'm sure it will all unfold.
[00:17:12] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, I've got a lot of other verses we can look at. I think I think we'll do the other verses if you like, if that's alright for you. Yeah. It's fine. I'm just trying to remember what they're referencing to. This we've got one in numbers. It's all painting a picture of what what we've been told is is is not quite the god we're thinking it is, which is that, you know, the gentle god creator who loves everybody. It's hardly showing love when you think that, yeah, just chucked some gang to a bus, have his family murdered and killed and loses everything. What are we looking at here? Right. I'm gonna go to numbers 21 verse 9. If I can find it.
Now this is about Moses in the, Moses in the desert with the children of Israel, the Exodus. And, this this is another angle, I'll I'll just say. And the Lord said to Moses, make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole, and everyone who is bitten by the snakes, okay, who sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on a pole. And if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live. All sounds very dark, doesn't it? Very. Very. Well, it is. A bit later on, I think it's in one of the other books, it talks about these idols being smashed up. So you've got this vindictive entities that are throwing serpents at the children of Israel because they're not doing what they're told.
So you think, oh, who are we who are we who who are we talking about here? And when you look at the, Exodus and the children of Israel being in the desert for 40 years, no one will go, and it would take you a week to walk from Egypt to Cana. So then it kinds of make it kind of makes sense that this god didn't want them to leave the jurisdiction. So this El Shaddai is wants the control of these people in his jurisdiction because he's either Yahweh or El Shaddai, and he's a desert pagan god. And there's plenty of references these to this fact now that Israel were following a desert pagan god, not god creator.
[00:19:44] Unknown:
All good? Yep. Yep. All good. Following.
[00:19:47] Unknown:
You're following. I think what I'm gonna do now, I'm gonna come up to a little bit on why we've been lied to all these years, and I and I think that's I'm gonna go back to the to the, nice sea a bit. And, just let me what's wrong? Oh, you're good. Yeah. So you've got all these old testament stories. I just I just, urge people to look at the 5th kind, because this guy, Paul Wallis, will explain all the way through what's happening here with these different Elohim. And, he's really good. Very good. So where are we? Right. We're going to the Constantine.
He's the one that basically made Jesus into a Roman by dressing him up in the iconography as a as a as a Roman warrior and so on and so forth. Do you remember the time I spoke to you about Aramithia with the tin trade? Yes. That was last year. I can't believe it's a year ago. Well, I'm gonna get back to the motives why the Catholic church or the church of Rome have done what they've done. And it's to do with money. Kelsey Price and control. Now when you look at what happened in the Britain in 70 AD with Arimathea, there's a whole bunch of Celtic believers that believe that Arimathea started the faith in the UK well before the Romans ever turned up. I think it was 394 AD they turned up in this country, whatever it was.
So In Eutroshia. Yeah. So, there was no if you if you notice, there's no massive buildings in these early Christian churches. They didn't need one. They just met together and and talked and read probably other books and bits and pieces and helped each other helped each other out. So getting back to Constantine. So he's got this Germanic, blond hair, blue eyed Jesus. He's obviously a Roman now. And the only reason they can back this up because they reckon that Peter went to Rome when he was the first pope. There is no evidence of that whatsoever. So we get back to Constantine. He wanted to keep oh, this is the thing I was wanting to say. If you go back to, when Jesus was crucified, I'll call him the other name in a minute, and you go back to the temple in Jerusalem, there's the holy of holies where the, ark of the covenant was. You know, in in in that temple, there was a huge curtain, thick curtain that separated the holy of holies from from the rest of the temple, and that's where the the ark was.
Now back in the day, if you're a priest and you went to do the sacrificial business and the blood splattering, which is all a bit weird, over the over the mercy seat, Sometimes they might faint from the power, and they get dragged out. You just have to go in there with a piece of rope around the ankle in case they fainted. So bearing in mind, you got this curtain, which is about 4 to 5 inches thick, and it's about 50, 60 foot high, This curtain in holy holies. But when Jesus died on the cross, this is all documented as well, this curtain, it says in it says in here. I might look it up in a minute. It was torn from top to bottom.
Okay. So that means it's the end of that covenant. That's what it means in I think it's I think I can find it actually. John 5.
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Not bottom to top. Yeah.
[00:23:16] Unknown:
What was it? John 5 verse 43, I think. No. That's the other one I'm looking at. It doesn't matter. It that's in in another reference. So so, basically, what you've got is this 1000 1000 of years old tradition of sacrificial rites that the that the, the Levites were doing. That's one of the 12 tribes. They they they didn't work, the Levites. They they were this is where the tithing came in. So, basically, if if if you were a good Jew or a good Hebrew, you gave a tenth of your crops to the temple, and they fed the Levites with it. Okay? So, basically, when that curtain was split into all the old rabbinic law and and that was finished with.
Okay? You didn't need that. And you didn't need to do sacrifices. You didn't need to pay the, the, you know, the Levites anything for looking after the temple. So after the, Romans had got hold of this and decided to to, you know, play their version of it, they've gone back into that old system of tithing. Give us your money. Give us your money. Because let's face it. If you if you leave out certain books, I'll get to I'll I'll I'll get to some of the books they've left out, which are really good. You can actually get them online now. And you find out why they've done it is because if if I keep you in ignorance, if I say to you, well, oh, look.
We're gonna keep keep keep this book in the language that we like, Latin, so you don't understand it. Sure, poor little clip. Basically, your your your your whole faith is is is based on what the man says in the pulpit because you can't understand Latin. And even when it is put in English oh, there's what's he called? William is he called John Tyndale? William Tyndale, who decided he's he's he's an Englishman. 16th century. They burned him to the stake because he translated the from this Latin book into into English. So he thought, no. Not even that. We're gonna burn him to the stake. So he murdered poor mother.
See? So why why did they do that? Because they have the power. They yeah. Yeah. It it's just mind blowing. When you look back in history throughout European history from Constantine onwards, with the Spanish inquisition and all these wars, they killed 25,000,000 people. They wiped out cultures. The Cathars are running in the south of France. They completely wiped them out because they didn't see things the way they should. They were heritage. So it's a pretty bloody background, and this is why I'm thinking why would anybody trust anything that comes out of your own.
[00:26:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Fair point. Fair point.
[00:26:12] Unknown:
Do you want to take a breath?
[00:26:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's alright. I feel like I should be asking questions, but I'm just, like, trying to take everything in. It it's got it's a heavy subject, isn't it? It's a deep subject. Yeah. I think it is for me anyway because I'm not, you know, I'm not at ease with bible passages and stuff like that.
[00:26:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. I'm trying I'm just going through some of my notes I've made. Yeah. So we're talking about William Tyndale, and then I didn't know this until a while back that, 16th century Catholic, they have the the the popes crowned the kings.
[00:26:54] Unknown:
They did what? Sorry.
[00:26:56] Unknown:
They crowned the kings.
[00:26:58] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Right. Yeah.
[00:27:00] Unknown:
And, I I didn't realize that. I thought my gosh. No no wonder Henry the Henry the eighth got the up because he, obviously, he it's he his was a different reason he wanted to divorce Catherine of Aragon? Mhmm. Catherine of Aragon. But, apparently, there's so much power that the the church of Rome had. They they decided because they obviously have the army behind them as well. You don't do this, we're gonna come beat you running to the ground. It's it's horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. So, yeah, I'm just reading here the, yeah, basically, any bible most of the New Testament is written in Greek, and the the the the the the Rome had their own Latin version. I think I mentioned the Vulgate 358, didn't I? Well, there's another guy called Aramis who was around around, I think it was 15, 16 he was around. Erasmus, sorry, not Aramis. That sense of his aftershave, isn't it?
What he did, he sussed it out. He said, right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna place Greek version next to the Latin version, and he wrote it out. It's called the Textus Arismus. And what he did is he placed it next to each other to the to the Latin version that that the Rome had, and everyone could see the lies coming out of the Roman version. And guess what our King James is made from?
[00:28:24] Unknown:
That one.
[00:28:26] Unknown:
The Latin version of the Volgate.
[00:28:28] Unknown:
And it's only until recently you discovered this, isn't it? Because I know you're a devoted Methodist Christian. Got the giggles. But that's one of the Bibles that you would have read in and trusted. Oh, yeah. Sure. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:28:50] Unknown:
It's it's quite shocking. And when you we've got another one. We've got the Ethiopian Bible. There's 88 books in that. We've got that one. That's very hard reading because the writing is is written by tiny people. You cannot be reading it. Dinky. That's for 88 books, not 66.
[00:29:07] Unknown:
King James has got 60 How many different Bibles are there then?
[00:29:11] Unknown:
Loads. That's a good enough answer. Yeah. There there's loads. One of them is called the Geneva, but the one I've been looking into recently is a 17/75 bible. And the books that they had in that version, the the basically, the Rome the church of Rome, which is connected to the CEV as well. Anything controversial they think is gonna get you knowledge, they they turf out. But the 17/75 Bible is is pretty good. It's got a lot of what we call apocryphal gospels or apocryphal writings. And some of the stuff you can get on that on 22 in I'm gonna mention tonight is the book of Enoch and the book of Thomas.
So the book of Enoch talks about what I mentioned earlier about Elohim's and the Elion and, what are actually spacecraft as well because that's Ezekiel with even in the one we've got. And, it explains a lot. For instance, there's, I think it's an a fallen angel called Azazel that gave man the knowledge of smelting metal and making swords, which kind of makes sense because I've always wondered what Bright Spark thought. Do you know what? I'm gonna get a load of granite, smash it all up, put it in a fire, and guess what? I'm gonna get some tin. Well, this information has come from somewhere else. Nice.
And that's all in Enoch, which is vast. I mean, Enoch didn't die. He God created, took him out for yeah. We're he he took him up to heaven with him. Anyway, where am I gonna go? Oh, book of Thomas. Now remember I talked to you about, Arimathea a year ago when the baby Jesus cope well, not the baby Jesus. He would have been about 12 coming to the Cornwall or and the UK and going to, like, Glastonbury to get the the lead in Cornwall for the copper and tin. Well, there is this other quite a lot of evidence for it. That Thomas, Staging Thomas, you know, the one where he said, unless I feel Jesus' wound in his side, I'm not gonna believe it. But well, he went to India, which is amazing, apparently, and there's a lot of evidence in India that backed this up.
And this is where it gets for me, this is where the rub gets eroded on why the Catholic church jumped on this book, because it takes everything away for they've ever tried to stamp on, which is authority and good money. In the book of Thomas, he just quotes Jesus, and he says, the kingdom of God is within you. So, basically, what those statements done, what they've done, they've they've made the whole hierarchy of the church redundant overnight. Do you follow?
[00:32:05] Unknown:
Yes.
[00:32:06] Unknown:
So in other words, you don't need the priest. You don't need the teachers. You've got all the teaching you need in these books. You don't need this corporation called the church where you tithe money, where you basically supports I always have a problem with somebody, especially looking at my dad. He was hard work. He was a fisherman. And you got some Herbert who works once once a week on a Sunday, and he's got his hand out. All that all finished in the Holy of Holies of the temple. That old rabbinic clause finished with. So no wonder if the Catholic church didn't want the book of Thomas in the gospels. It says the kingdom of God is within you.
[00:32:41] Unknown:
Jesus.
[00:32:42] Unknown:
Excuse me. Hello? They're they're redundant overnight, and that's why it's been been been left out. And it's horrifying, really, when you think about that.
[00:32:54] Unknown:
So the so the book of Thomas, is that a bible, or is that just a book?
[00:32:59] Unknown:
It's one of the books that was thrown out of the 17 I think it's a 70/75 bible. It it it was it was just not put in there because they didn't like it. Right. Okay. So it should have been part should have been part of the bible.
[00:33:12] Unknown:
Wow. It's crazy, isn't it? Because like we say, we know so much of our history is wrong, but you would like to think on the moral ground that the bible would be right because so many people look to it. But, actually, it must be quite horrifying if you've been so into this for so long. And, actually, well, I don't know if it's horrifying. I mean, you're a researcher. You're a truther. It's a journey it's a journey, isn't it, that you're on?
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Yeah. Yeah. It certainly is. I mean, I did too many. Sorry. Pardon? Yeah. It it it it can it basically you think I've gotta start again now. I mean, you know, you might have a bay you know, you've got a basic faith that, you know, there there is a there is a god and there there is a dark and there's a dark side and there is, obviously, the light side, and there's you've got maybe the universe and what we're doing in in in in part of this plan. But, yeah. But when when you think all this stuff we've been learning over the it's basically a control mechanism to keep keep your pretty dumbed down, keep your your eyes closed, and and and your like, for instance, your your spiritual eyes closed because, well, I can't survive, you know, you know, I can't I can't make a decision without a priest man telling me because he he he's a man of God. He's he's got his hand on the pulse. But like in the book of Thomas, Jesus says the kingdom of God is in within you. Pineal.
There there is also the pineal gland, which I think you'll find is in a lot of, stonework in in the Vatican City. It looks like a pineapple. So they were aware that the pineal gland is is a part of the spiritual awakening. And if if you have foods that calcify that, then that's gonna slow you down even more.
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Fascinating. And and to the listeners out there that can hear the old whispers, that's, Graham's wife, Jules. Bless her. They're working as a team.
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Yeah. Absolutely. But I hear you say, where's his name? Okay. I'm gonna get to that now. Okay. So, basically, we've been told, God you know, that's a very general thing. The Lord, which actually that has another meaning as well. I've got half the scriptures open here. I haven't looked at it yet, but I'm gonna go with the Isaiah 52 verse 6. And it it says that's an old testament piece of the bible, and it says, I come in my father's name. Okay? Now this is before Jesus turned up. So you've got a scripture that says, I'll come in my father's name. And we never really understood that until recently, but there's been a whole cover up of god's, the creator, real his real name. He's called Yahuwah.
Now bearing in mind that that I'm gonna get to the word j in a minute because that's imperative on this whole argument. Is the word j was not invented 350 years. It's a it's a relatively new letter. Sounds mad, didn't it? It does. So when you start digging up the transliteration on how Greek to Latin, they came up with the word j, it's not there. So Jesus is, it it's a made up word from only 350 years ago.
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So what did they call him before?
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Well, he's called Yahusha. Yahusha. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. He was called and what they've done, this that Isaiah scripture, it says, I've come in my father's name. All you have to do is add an s to Yahuwah, and you've got Yahusha.
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Yep. Yes.
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K. So when you so he's not called Jesus. He's called Yahusha. You can change anything. Okay. You know, it's it's like, when I I didn't realize that the j is a is a relatively recent letter. When I was working in Germany, there was, I think there's a lot of there's a lot of Germanic words in the English language and vice versa, like, you know, Saxony. And, the street is called Strasse, but it's it looks like an f f. So you got Strasse. Now Strasse, f is pronounced as an s, and it's a bit like that. When you start looking into the Latin and the Greek, how it got crossed over is it's, whether it's done on purpose, I don't I don't know.
There are other people that think that there is a reference to Zeus, with Jesus. That I'd I'm not a 100% on that, but either way, it's the wrong name. Now there's another thing I wanted to read out, which is probably lost it now. I have to look at that. I can't do it. It's all to do with, coming in having the wrong name, coming in my father's name, which is the wrong one. It's a bit naughty, really, because we got no excuse now because of the Internet and whatever we've got the information on. We we we should understand that we've been lied to. I mean, that's the point.
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Again?
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Yeah. Again. Yeah. So, bottom line is when you got something written in Greek, goes to Latin, then to English. It's it's you have to go back to the original text, original. But even then, some of these have been yeah. And and like I said, the the the New Testament is 3 50 AD copy, and that's called the Vulgate. And that's what the the King James was taken off. And by the way, King James, he didn't like people having any other versions, and he went round and rooted any versions out that he didn't like. And then he wrote a book on how to burn witches.
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Gosh. It's very, 1984, but, like, a long time ago, isn't it?
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Yeah. It is. Absolutely. I've just found it. Jude's helped me out on this, and it's John 5 verse 43. This is a bit of a again, it it it because we're I'm looking at a revised King James version, obviously, they couldn't help but leave some clues in there because, yes, a little bit of other stuff you think. Well, you know, they can't completely it's not all fabricated or or or masked. But that's why they leave clues like the business in Genesis 1. But this one, I'll read out anyway. 5 chapter 5 verse 43. I have come in my father's name, and you do not receive me. This is a kicker. If another one comes in his own name, him you will receive.
So how can you believe he seek glory from one another and do not seek the boy that comes from the the only God? So there there are kind of warnings in even in this version that you gotta get the right name.
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Wow. It's fascinating. I love it.
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Yeah. History show you. Yeah. And also what's that? History.
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People didn't even know and find it. Yeah. I mean, there's also the the the the gospel of Mary. This, this is Mary Magdalene who apparently was not a prostitute, and it's taken the Catholic church nearly 2000 years to apologize for that fact. They only did it a few years ago, or we've got that bit wrong. We didn't really mean she was a prostitute. And that's horrendous. This poor woman who who apparently was demonized, Jesus got rid of the demons or whatever, and she was the first one in the tomb. If you remember, go back to the gospels. Mary Magdalene was the first one that get to see where the body had gone to Jesus on on his resurrection day.
But, if you if you read back on some of them, John says I was the first there. So there's this conflict of interest that he had to be the first one. No. He wasn't. No. He was. And that's so she's she had her own gospel book that was only found I think it was 1946 or something. Then he found her gospel in 1946, which wasn't put in.
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So what made you look look into this then?
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I think it was a story of Job. I think that and also since we met you at Truro on the all the whole the whole thing, the whole deception thing and the the conveyed and the rest of it. I I think we went on a journey down to let's find out where where the truth is. But Job has always puzzled me and what and I had a problem with it way back as a child, teenager. And so what what sort of god could do that and now and then that it wasn't god creator?
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And doesn't doesn't Jesus, Yehusha, say what father would give his son a stone instead of bread? I've missed out another one. Hang on. That's but
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of bread? I've missed out another one. Hang on. That's but I think it's in the Exodus. I don't did I mention that snake, bronze snake Yeah. That's that will you know, if people wanna check that out, that that's quite a long long story. But there is snakes being thrown down to to from probably El Shaddai or Yahweh to punish these people. How dare they go off on 1 you know, on a tangent. It's me wanting to worship. Well, there's a scripture in New Testament where Jesus says
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in Yehusha What what what farm where is it? Would give his man would give his son a stone instead of when he asks for bread? And the well, he wouldn't, would he? Might be that one. Yeah. We're trying to find it. Basically,
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Jesus is is making a reference to that scripture in the old testament where they have the snakes and what what God would send you. Well, got it. This is Matthew 7 verse 9. No. Matthew yeah. Yeah. Matthew 79. Yeah. It says, what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him then who are evil have I got that wrong? Yeah. A stone or if you ask for a fish, we'll give him a serpent. So he's already warning us, make sure we get the right god even though I I think that one probably slipped in.
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It's mind blowing, isn't it? I mean, because I I'm on a bit of a religious journey. I think I always have been, to be fair, and, you know, I'm gonna go to church again this Sunday. Okay. And, ultimately, what did he say? Don't get brainwashed. No. No. I just I love the whole Bible stories and stuff like that. And when I went I told you I went a couple of weeks ago, and I do find the way that the Bible is interpreted. I just find it myself hard to understand. So, like, for that session, they talked about, Zebedeeus.
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I can't even Zebedee. We're not talking about magic roundabout here, are we? We're talking about Zebedee from the old testament. Yes. Zebedee. No. Hang on. Was it Zebedee? Oh, I don't know. But he had
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people killed and stuff under his army, basically, and the principle of it was that do what feels right, not follow a command. Anyway but I came home, and I was interested in it, so I googled it. And in a, in a paragraph, it basically summed up the story for me. And Right. So perhaps if I could go to church, they could just go, right, today's bible reading. Rather than reading the bible, just read a paragraph, trans transfer it to English Yeah. And there's your little story. And then perhaps have a little question and answer session after.
Yeah. I've always found it hard listening to the Bible.
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Have you? Yeah. Yeah. I think I am as well, especially when you
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But I didn't grow up with it like you did, and I love the idea that children go to church and things like that and learn these stories. And when you get older, like now, you know, I'm in late my late forties and early, and it's like, god, I wish I learned all these things. But I don't hold on. I don't retain information that well. So when I learn something you know? And I've got menopausal brain at the moment. I can't think of where I know. Honestly, I can't. It's awful. I wrote a shopping list the other day, and I meant to put plug in one of those air freshers, and I couldn't think of the names. I just wrote smelly thing. I
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Not referring to to Darren. No.
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No. No. But now I do find it fascinating. Yeah. And so do you still well, you obviously do bible study now, but do you do that with Jules, or is that just what you do in the evenings when she's busy working?
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Yeah. Good point. Sometimes, for instance, I might look at a program or a platform for half an hour, say on, 5th Kind, and they might be talking about Yahweh. So it might be an arrow on Yahweh and where that root word's from. The other one is stuff like ruach, like you've got these Hebrew words because they didn't have any vowels. So this bloke explains what's written what is written about and also how it's been misinterpreted or whatever. So, yeah, it's fascinating. And the other platforms I'm reading, there's the I've got 23 hours to watch on 1 bloke. He's called I thought, blimey, if I might get free as well. I'm 65.
He's he's called Jack Flores, and he's talking about the origin of of Israel and what's happened to Israel now. Oh, is there an Israel, which is another massive topic because of what's happening over there now with, with Gaza and, all the rest of it. And I'm coming to the decision that Israel was disbanded in 752 BC by the Assyrians. They were taken away. Oh, that's another guy I've gotta tell you about. It's Henry Rawlinson. Now he this is 5th, 1850 odd. He he he used to work for the East India Company, and he's a little bit of an Indiana Jones character. Basically, he there's a there's a massive carving called the Behistun carvings.
I think it's Northern Turkey. And it basically, these these are like low relief carvings, but it's got three forms of languages on it, cuneiform and 2 others. And he was responsible for translating some of the cuneiform texts from the Babylonian times. And he's mind blowing. He's well, Henry Vaughan's and check him out, but what's important is what's on these carvings. And it's basically as I've said before, there there was 12 tribes of Israel. There was 10 in the northern territory or or northern Israel, which were taken away by the Assyrians were slaves. The other 2, not long after, that's Judah and Benjamin, which is where the word Jew comes from. It only comes from that one tribe of Judah.
The rest of them are Hebrews. Anyway, basically, what it's saying is that Israel is being, drip fed into Britain and Europe. They're dispersed into the into the tribes of this country and the tribes of Europe. And when you when you think about it, it kinda makes sense. Because this whole lost tribe thing, they're not lost. They're they're in our in our culture, certainly in Cornwall. Like I said to you before, there's there's a there's a huge khipu connection with with Cornwall because of the tin trade anyway going back 2000 years. So, Bangalore.
So, yeah, it's mind boggling.
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I should say. So going back to Jesus, I mean, so I can't even say Jesus now because that's not his name.
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No. Yahusha.
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Yahusha. Never remember that.
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Yeah.
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Yahusha. Yeah. Yahusha is God God creator, and Yahusha is They've come in my father's name. And actually, if I go to church on Sunday and tell them all of this, will they be impressed or not? I'm sure they'll they'll Absolutely not. They'll they'll they'll probably start Stoning you. Yeah. That's how you can
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and he's had to go through all these stages. And then to come to realize and to actually stand up and say, I think I've got it wrong here,
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is a really major thing. Yeah. I can't imagine Graham saying that. I
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I was wrong.
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I wrote I wrote it I wrote it down on the calendar. But, you know, and then to start looking into something and then being shown as it because the more you look into something, the more you find. And consequently, the way, it's been, portrayed and if you keep going back and going back and going back and going back, you go back to the Samarias. You go back and there it is. It shows you. It's there. And as Christ said we're gonna call him Christ. We're gonna call him Yehusha. He said, seek and you will find. Ask and it will be given to you. Knock and it will be opened, but you gotta want to know. And that's the thing. And because we'd be we've been asking for Yonkers, you know, what's the truth? We want the truth. There's so much deception in the world right now. We want the truth.
And it's coming, and we're thinking, oh, that's interesting. I've gotta change everything now. Well, that's a hella, can it? But it works. It's it it does work. And it is Yahushua, and his father is Yahuwah, and that's my father. And there's a a prayer in the bible when, somebody says, well, what should we call you? What who how how should we pray? And the Jesus guy, the Yehusha, says, our father. And I think, oh, that's a cool name. My father my father is the highest of the high. And his son, Yehusha, came to this world, died, rose again to say, wait. Wake up, you lot. You're not gonna die. You're gonna you're just having a visit here. You're coming off with me later on if you believe. Yeah. And that's the way it is. So it's quite simple, really, but it didn't offer change when you've got when, you know, when you've been indoctrinated for so long. And I'm I'm I'm glad I wasn't that indoctrinated because I didn't get this side of things until when I was 34 30.
So, I I knew the other side. I knew the other side was real. So this side has gotta be real too, but now you got the name. And once you know the name, you know the name.
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Are you sure? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. I'm gonna have to keep practicing it. And, interestingly, next week, I'm having a little bible study meeting with my friend. Oh, good. Talk about all these sort of things. And I've inspired her to read the book again, The Cross and the Switchblade. Oh, excellent. Yeah. So she said, should we have you know, and her husband is the local vicar. And I love that. But we talk about all sorts of things, and I'm sure she thinks I'm a little bit quirky and mad and but, you know, underneath it all, I like to think I'm a good person. We always got on. So, you know, I will like to bring this up to her up with her. Yeah.
Oh my god. I could just see me next week at the playgroup because it's at the church, and we have some real deep conversations about god and stuff. And when I come in to say, hey. Do you know what I've heard?
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Yeah. Yeah. Never speak to that man again. He's mental. The other the other good another good guy to look up would be Trey Smith, and and I don't mean a really, really tall I'm gonna use the word. He's a basketball player, and he's rather dark skinned. He's very tall, dark skinned. He's called Trey Smith. Not him. The other guy is really tall as well, but he's he's, he's, not quite so dark, and, he's my color. And he's called Trey Smith, and he goes he delves back into the Sumerian stones and the history and the the the way things were written and the the, because every every letter in Hebrew has got a number and it's got a symbol, and it and it goes right back. If you look that up, you'll find out, oh, that's his name. There it is in stone. Written in stone.
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But wouldn't it what are you saying to her there?
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Is it run are we running that? Is it running that time now? We've got 5 minutes. We've got 5 minutes. Okay.
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Calm her down. Oh, no. No. I love it when she pops on and says a little bit.
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So we've covered quite a lot of ground spikes. I hope it was all clear.
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Well, it's making sense. I mean, I will never maintain all that information about all the different tribes and all the names and but I get what you're talking about. I get the gist of it. So that is something really, really fascinating, and, I am looking forward now to having this chat to my friend. You know? I'm not saying dismiss God. I'm just saying. You know? So, yeah, that will be interesting. So going back to Jesus's, or asha's, birthday, when was his birthday then?
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Well, it March. I reckon it was March. March, April, his spring. When the lambs are producing. When you when you go back to if right. Passover, just quickly, Passover was to do with Jesus was supposed to be our Passover lamb. So that's why all the people were in Jerusalem at that time. But this is another one. If you if you it even says this in the gospels, there was an extra holiday that Jesus was not crucified on a Friday. It was a Thursday, which gives you 3 days till a Sunday. That's just a quick one.
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So I won't be able to go to church anymore now, will I? Because I'll be like, well, I can kind of join in, but then they just don't know what they're talking about.
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But all this is also another thing, all this is also reflected in the stars because of the the Virgo and the and the, yep, the sign being in Virgo, the the the the new birth coming through Virgo. So there's this this bow has got so many strings.
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Love to talk about this again, I think. It's amazing. Definitely. Definitely.
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Oh, I love chatting to you too.
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So you're good on what we covered so far? Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Yeah. That's good. So It's, the it's such a lot to try and cover, and I I I even What a rabbit hole to go down. Oh, yeah. I've even used half the Bible things I was going to use, but I think I've given I think the calendar, the Julian calendar, the counts of Nicaea, the fact that everything's been changed time wise, and also Christmas and Easter has been changed. All of them. So, basically, we're we're involved with pagan rituals without a smell.
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Because I thought that was why I've watched a video once. Was it the zeitgeist or something like that? And they were saying that Jesus was born on Easter, and they got it back to front.
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But it's under the whole paganism thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely all spring. It's definitely spring. Good. But but even so, it it it it's it all goes back to, where the stars it it it's it's the whole thing is spiritual as well as alive, if you know what I mean. It as well as being human, it's it's also very, very spiritual. It's up in the stars. Everything as above, so below, and all that jazz. It's it's quite amazing. It's It's really amazing. And, of course, once you open 1 it's like Pandora's box. Once you open it, you think, oh, flipping that, and things keep coming out of it. You think, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. And it's just fascinating. It's fascinating how many things there are. How many I mean, to think that Joseph Arimathea actually came over here with a little lad, that's fantastic.
And to have it put in the, the doomsday book, how many hides of land there were, fantastic. You know, just these little bits that go in, you think, that is true. That is real. We got that. That's real. It's amazing. It's amazing.
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Well, I can feel your energy of excitement for it, George. Oh, I do I do love it. I can remember coming around your guys' house in lockdown, and we'd had one of our little meetings. And I I was very low, and you getting me a bible. And I was so chuffed. Yeah. And you gave me the wrong bloody one full of life.
[00:57:59] Unknown:
Yeah. It was a while, mate. Give us give us a break. I've got the I haven't got the Geneva, but I have got the Ethiopian, and that isn't that isn't a very interesting book. You do need a magnifying glass wide. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, the Geneva one is I'd get a Geneva,
[00:58:13] Unknown:
if I were you. I I just don't think I could read it. I've I've got an app here that's supposed to play you part of the bible so you can do the bible in a year. But even do story time.
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Sorry? I do story time. I'll sit down there and read you a passage.
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But I think that's what we need more of for Bible stories. Like I said, how many people? Like, I don't know. I just drift because it's all it's spoken in a language that you'd really have to think about and stuff like that. If they, like, read the story and then, right, let's simplify it. Let's have some questions and answers. For me, personally, I still have my own church that I can have this, but I would go away and think, oh, I've learned something. But it obviously touched me that day I went because, like I said, I came home and I looked into it. Anyway you. Yeah. Anyway, we gotta go because it's the last time. Thank you so much, both of you. Thank you. Always fascinating. And That's right. You always cheer me up, you 2. You're fascinating. And That's right. You always cheer me up, you 2. You're nuts.
You take care. Yeah. You too. Cheers. Take care, guys. Bye. Thanks very much. Bye bye. Oh, bless them. So that's it for this week. I will be back the same time next week. I hope you have an awesome week, ladies and gentlemen.
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show coming live out of Radio Soapbox dotcom. It's good to have your company. Today's date is Wednesday, 16th October 2024. I am also streaming live on Rumble. So if you'd like to ask any questions, leave any comments, please do so. So have a great guest lined up for this evening. Friend of the show, friend in my life, I'm very fortunate to say. Have the wonderful Graham Hitchins this evening. Good evening, Graham.
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Good evening. What a wonderful way to describe somebody.
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Well, you are my friend. I know you. Absolutely. A friend of the show. You've been on a few times before. And Thank you, my lovely we always have great conversations. So we were out the other night, and it was like we've reached the topic of God. And it came about that, actually, what is God's real name? And I was like, right. Let's do a show on it. So it's it's god is not his real name. I'm taking it. It's what they call him. It's what they call him. Okay. Where do you wanna start with this, Graham? Because I know it's got so many little bits.
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I'm gonna read you a couple of bits from the King James, which is quite well. And just just just to set the tone, a couple of bits and pieces, I'm gonna go off on a proper old journey. Is that okay with you, John? That's absolutely fine. Right. I've got the King James or the King James version. I'm gonna read from Genesis verse, sorry, chapter 1 verse 26. And it says in my book, I can find it, then god said, let us make man in our image after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea. What I'm getting at is it's talking about us or plural. It's a plural description. And everyone the the Christian church has said for years, oh, it's father it's godfather of the holy spirit.
Not not quite so. Right. The next one I'm gonna read out a bit later. Basically, I'm gonna give you a quick overview of what we've been finding out over the last 5 years. Bearing in mind, I've been brought up in the Methodist Church and the Baptist Church, and, you know, I thought things were pretty straightforward, but they're not.
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Not a lot of stuff is, is it, these days?
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Certainly isn't. Right. Where do I start? First thing I think I'm gonna do is just put a taster out on why I'm gonna refer to the the church as a Catholic church or the church in Rome to start with. I'm gonna go to my notes are all over the shop now because I'm gonna go to the little bit. I'm gonna go to the 1st council of Nicaea, Constantine 3 25 AD, when they this is after they beat the Christians up for 300 years, burned them, threw them to the lions, and thought, well, perhaps we ought to do something about this and accept some of their thing. What they've done, they had about 84 priests and bishops that turned up at this this chitchat at Nicaea to to work out what to do with this newfangled religion.
And it's quite horrifying what they agreed to, really, bearing in mind that Constantine was a very powerful man, and he kind of accepted God in in a in a different package, if you see what I'm just trying to get at. So what the what Constantine did, because he was a very, very I I think you could call him a bit of a, Rishi Sunak or a, not a stoma. I'm not gonna go there. He was a politician. He he played the game, and he played the game with the pagans and this newfangled religion. So what he did, he went back to let me get the Julian calendar, which is 46 BC.
And, it changed the Hebrew calendar, and they chucked that out the window. And it complicated everything. It basically made things in a different if you just for instance, if if you think Christmas is when Jesus was born, then I'm I'm afraid you got a bit of a it's a very disappointing thing because he wasn't born in December. So what Constantine did, he threw all the pagan sorry. All all all the new Christian, festivals like Easter and Christmas with the with the pagan ones. And when I when I say pagan, I mean, Christmas is called it is known as Saturnalia. And Saturnalia in Rome at the time was basically a big rampant orgy for about a week.
They, I think they had a day where they swapped the boss. So for instance, if you had a boss you didn't particularly like, it was your turn to wreak revenge on your boss by swapping positions. And if you wanted to ameliorate him, he couldn't take it out any for the rest of the year. But prior to that, Saturnalia was to do a Kronos, and Kronos ate his own children.
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Oh. So he got this, oh, yeah. It's really, really dark and also Is this in the is this in the actual bible, is it, all this? Oh, no. No. No. Certainly not. No. Oh, it's okay. I was gonna say I've never heard of this story.
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No. You can't put things like that in there. That's called the truth. So, yeah, so, basically, he was combining all these pagan rituals with and and he and he put the this this new religion in these rituals. That's just for the first thing. And then, obviously, the calendar that they butchered around, didn't help things. So so so, you know, everyone thinks that Jesus is born in December or Easter was in April, May, all completely out out of whack. And this is what they discussed in the, the cancer's Lycea in 325. It gets worse.
So so yep. Yep. Yeah. So we could bend from there, and then we're gonna go to they have their own version because, basically, most of the New Testament was written in, Greek. The the the Romans thought we better have our version and put it in Latin. And this this is called the Vulgate, and this goes back to 3 50 AD. And, basically, what you've got is a copy made sometime, and then they copied it again, and then they copied it again. So the whole of the New Testament is in basically the Roman church's hands, and they basically anyone that had anything different was chucked out.
So it's whether Matthew, Mark, and Luke wrote these books is is not clear either. There's they're probably written about them. So this 350 years of copy, and that's the old it goes back 350 AD. So there's a lot of time in between where things were lost, hidden, and one of them well, I'll get to it in a minute. Some of these books have now been recently found from the original texts in, in Hebrew, and it's it's just blows your mind, really. Wow. Yeah. So we've got basically Constantine. He he kind of made Jesus, if you like, an iconography of, when when you look at a Hebrew person, they're not exactly, blue eyed and blonde.
They're they're swarthy. They're in the, you know, they're they're they're brown eyes. But what Constantine did, he he needed, well, I should say, God's support in some of his battles. So he kind of put Jesus as a Roman, dressed him up in all this Roman clobber and put a sword in his hand and all the rest of it. And it kind of so he could justify his his his his his battles. You know, if I've got Jesus on my side, I can't lose all this malarkey. So he he kind of iconography Jesus as this Aryan blue eyed blonde haired hippie kite, which he's not Hebrew, is he? No. No. So he's changed that kind of view, and that kind of stuck with the Western church probably till now, which is quite horrifying.
So yeah. But if you look at the the the other one, it's quite I haven't got time. I mean, I could sit here and read you the whole of the, Nicene Creed. And, basically, he threw they threw everything out of any Hebrew or Jewish influence, completely chucked it out the window, and that included the Sabbath. So the Sabbath is a Saturday. Oh. Right. So Constantine said, nope. We're having a Sunday. Sun worshiping. Okay. So, basically, you've gone from it's gone to pagan worship again, which is Sunday. And, obviously, you're looking at the rest of the calendar, noonday, and all the rest of it, Thursday's thought. So the whole account is being butchered as well.
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Nothing surprises me. But when lies start going back that far, it's like, how many and how much of the recent Bibles that we're reading can we really say is, well, the gospel.
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Yeah. Exactly. Which, I've got I've I've got quite a few bits ready. But we yeah. I think I'm gonna go to, I've done the Genesis one, haven't I? So, basically, you've got I'll just read that again just to top up my memories. It says, then God said, let us make man in our image. So you're looking at the plurality there. You're looking at more than one God. I might as well go straight into this now rather than the other details. So, basically, what you've got then is you've got even some of the Jewish texts and scribes that were captured in Babylon, they started to mask these names of god. So, basically, you've got god creator, which I'll get to his name in a minute, and you've got these other gods underneath god creator, which are in all through the old testament. They've been masked by the priests and the Catholics and all who, you know, the the church of Rome. And one of them is called Elohim.
Elohim mean it is plural, and it's if you go back to the root word I'm I'm gonna mention this guy's name now. He's he's the 5th kind, Paul Wallis. He's an Aussie guy that worked for the Vatican and is an old worked for the Catholic church. But, also, there's a guy called Bellinio, and he's he worked directly for the for the for the Vatican to to get the root meaning of the words. And Elohim means the powerful ones. So it's, again, plural. And above that, you've got Elion, and they all have different names. So what I'm gonna do now, I'm gonna go into Job. I don't know whether you know the story of Job.
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No. I'm not. Well Okay. I don't know much about the Bible, to be honest with you Okay. Thankfully.
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No. Not at all. Well, basically, Job has always puzzled me as a story because basically I'll just read you this first and make up your own decision on this, but it is it's Job, 1. I better write that down so I don't lose my track. That's done. Oh, that's done. Job 1, and it's verse 6. Right. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and Satan. Now I've heard people talking about the Galactic Federation. I thought, you're having a laugh, it sounds like someone had a Star Wars. Okay? But it says it here in Job quite clearly. I'll read it again. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and Satan.
Also came among them, the Lord said to Satan, whence have you come? So the impression you get from this this transiteration here, the Lord said to Satan so everyone is is assuming that the lord is god or or Jesus. Says to Satan, whence have you come, Satan answered the lord, from going to and from on the earth and from walking up and down on it. Okay? So he's having a bit of a walk around. He he's doing a bit of a Mickey Flanagan doing a cockney walk up and down a bit. Right? Now it says, and the lord said to say, have you considered my servant Job? That's like, let's just throw somebody under the bus just for a giggle. That's what happens. And what happens to Job afterwards is is is is horrendous. His family gets killed. His wife doesn't. He loses everything.
And, basically, it's a real test, but the question is who is it from? So if we go back to the original Job manuscripts, it doesn't say God. It says Elohim. And that Elohim has a name. And Elohim has that Elohim has a name, and he's called El Shaddai. If you look up the word El Shaddai in your Hebrew books, it it means a destroyer. So we're not talking about God creator. We're talking about another God under the jurisdiction of God creator, but he's gone feral and nasty. And he thought, oh, not a bit of a laugh here. I'm gonna throw somebody under the bus and see if he he denounces me, and that's called El Shaddai.
Right. I'm trying to I'm trying to take it in. Yep. Yep. Okay. So the whole story of Job is basically some sadistic entity called El Shaddai who is pushing and pushing. It didn't kill him, but he he he killed his family, and he wiped it. But then he he blessed him again because he didn't, you know, you know, denounce this this this this being. And you think, what what sort of thing are we looking at here? It's horrifying. And, unfortunately, the whole of the Old Testament is about warfare and butchering this and butchering that. I've never understood it. Again, back to this verse 6, and it came it's a bit of a shock. You think, hang on a minute. This is a vindictive psychopathic entity we're dealing with here. And then it struck me one morning. I had a bit of a I had a bit of a moment. I walked down and said, hang on a minute. If if it says in, you know, the other old testament bits and pieces that god can't god, the creator, can't look at sin, then how can it be in a I I I look at it as a bit of a pub. They're all having a bit of a knees out having a pub, and all these people come out there, all all all these different gods and sons of god come to, you know, come to this big bar in the sky. Well, what's god doing there? Because he can't look at sin or nastiness.
So he can't be god creator. Do you follow him?
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I think so, but that's not really god.
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No. It it's it's a god Right. Okay. Him Mhmm. Created by God, but he's gone a bit foul just like, you know, if if you go back to, Genesis and the fall and, you know, prior to the to the fall of Adam and Eve, that's another story. We will get brandy one day, possibly. All these entities were lobbed out of the heavenly places because they rebelled. And I'm I'm what I'm trying to get at is that these these, Elohim, the the powerful ones, were part of that people that were thrown out. And what the amazing bit is, they've got names, the these Elohim. And, also, they're in a in an area.
So from my understanding now is that Elohim is possibly the same as Yahweh, which is a desert pagan god in and not god creator. So he's got two names from different areas.
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Oh my god. This is confusing, isn't it?
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Well, yeah. But no. But it is. So what I'm trying to get at is that these these old testament stories, especially Job, we're talking about a vindictive entity called El Shaddai, but he's he is an Elohim. He is one of the powerful ones.
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Okay. Are you with me? Kind of. Kind of. I'm sure it will all unfold.
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Yeah. I mean, I've got a lot of other verses we can look at. I think I think we'll do the other verses if you like, if that's alright for you. Yeah. It's fine. I'm just trying to remember what they're referencing to. This we've got one in numbers. It's all painting a picture of what what we've been told is is is not quite the god we're thinking it is, which is that, you know, the gentle god creator who loves everybody. It's hardly showing love when you think that, yeah, just chucked some gang to a bus, have his family murdered and killed and loses everything. What are we looking at here? Right. I'm gonna go to numbers 21 verse 9. If I can find it.
Now this is about Moses in the, Moses in the desert with the children of Israel, the Exodus. And, this this is another angle, I'll I'll just say. And the Lord said to Moses, make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole, and everyone who is bitten by the snakes, okay, who sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on a pole. And if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live. All sounds very dark, doesn't it? Very. Very. Well, it is. A bit later on, I think it's in one of the other books, it talks about these idols being smashed up. So you've got this vindictive entities that are throwing serpents at the children of Israel because they're not doing what they're told.
So you think, oh, who are we who are we who who are we talking about here? And when you look at the, Exodus and the children of Israel being in the desert for 40 years, no one will go, and it would take you a week to walk from Egypt to Cana. So then it kinds of make it kind of makes sense that this god didn't want them to leave the jurisdiction. So this El Shaddai is wants the control of these people in his jurisdiction because he's either Yahweh or El Shaddai, and he's a desert pagan god. And there's plenty of references these to this fact now that Israel were following a desert pagan god, not god creator.
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All good? Yep. Yep. All good. Following.
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You're following. I think what I'm gonna do now, I'm gonna come up to a little bit on why we've been lied to all these years, and I and I think that's I'm gonna go back to the to the, nice sea a bit. And, just let me what's wrong? Oh, you're good. Yeah. So you've got all these old testament stories. I just I just, urge people to look at the 5th kind, because this guy, Paul Wallis, will explain all the way through what's happening here with these different Elohim. And, he's really good. Very good. So where are we? Right. We're going to the Constantine.
He's the one that basically made Jesus into a Roman by dressing him up in the iconography as a as a as a Roman warrior and so on and so forth. Do you remember the time I spoke to you about Aramithia with the tin trade? Yes. That was last year. I can't believe it's a year ago. Well, I'm gonna get back to the motives why the Catholic church or the church of Rome have done what they've done. And it's to do with money. Kelsey Price and control. Now when you look at what happened in the Britain in 70 AD with Arimathea, there's a whole bunch of Celtic believers that believe that Arimathea started the faith in the UK well before the Romans ever turned up. I think it was 394 AD they turned up in this country, whatever it was.
So In Eutroshia. Yeah. So, there was no if you if you notice, there's no massive buildings in these early Christian churches. They didn't need one. They just met together and and talked and read probably other books and bits and pieces and helped each other helped each other out. So getting back to Constantine. So he's got this Germanic, blond hair, blue eyed Jesus. He's obviously a Roman now. And the only reason they can back this up because they reckon that Peter went to Rome when he was the first pope. There is no evidence of that whatsoever. So we get back to Constantine. He wanted to keep oh, this is the thing I was wanting to say. If you go back to, when Jesus was crucified, I'll call him the other name in a minute, and you go back to the temple in Jerusalem, there's the holy of holies where the, ark of the covenant was. You know, in in in that temple, there was a huge curtain, thick curtain that separated the holy of holies from from the rest of the temple, and that's where the the ark was.
Now back in the day, if you're a priest and you went to do the sacrificial business and the blood splattering, which is all a bit weird, over the over the mercy seat, Sometimes they might faint from the power, and they get dragged out. You just have to go in there with a piece of rope around the ankle in case they fainted. So bearing in mind, you got this curtain, which is about 4 to 5 inches thick, and it's about 50, 60 foot high, This curtain in holy holies. But when Jesus died on the cross, this is all documented as well, this curtain, it says in it says in here. I might look it up in a minute. It was torn from top to bottom.
Okay. So that means it's the end of that covenant. That's what it means in I think it's I think I can find it actually. John 5.
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Not bottom to top. Yeah.
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What was it? John 5 verse 43, I think. No. That's the other one I'm looking at. It doesn't matter. It that's in in another reference. So so, basically, what you've got is this 1000 1000 of years old tradition of sacrificial rites that the that the, the Levites were doing. That's one of the 12 tribes. They they they didn't work, the Levites. They they were this is where the tithing came in. So, basically, if if if you were a good Jew or a good Hebrew, you gave a tenth of your crops to the temple, and they fed the Levites with it. Okay? So, basically, when that curtain was split into all the old rabbinic law and and that was finished with.
Okay? You didn't need that. And you didn't need to do sacrifices. You didn't need to pay the, the, you know, the Levites anything for looking after the temple. So after the, Romans had got hold of this and decided to to, you know, play their version of it, they've gone back into that old system of tithing. Give us your money. Give us your money. Because let's face it. If you if you leave out certain books, I'll get to I'll I'll I'll get to some of the books they've left out, which are really good. You can actually get them online now. And you find out why they've done it is because if if I keep you in ignorance, if I say to you, well, oh, look.
We're gonna keep keep keep this book in the language that we like, Latin, so you don't understand it. Sure, poor little clip. Basically, your your your your whole faith is is is based on what the man says in the pulpit because you can't understand Latin. And even when it is put in English oh, there's what's he called? William is he called John Tyndale? William Tyndale, who decided he's he's he's an Englishman. 16th century. They burned him to the stake because he translated the from this Latin book into into English. So he thought, no. Not even that. We're gonna burn him to the stake. So he murdered poor mother.
See? So why why did they do that? Because they have the power. They yeah. Yeah. It it's just mind blowing. When you look back in history throughout European history from Constantine onwards, with the Spanish inquisition and all these wars, they killed 25,000,000 people. They wiped out cultures. The Cathars are running in the south of France. They completely wiped them out because they didn't see things the way they should. They were heritage. So it's a pretty bloody background, and this is why I'm thinking why would anybody trust anything that comes out of your own.
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Yeah. Fair point. Fair point.
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Do you want to take a breath?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's alright. I feel like I should be asking questions, but I'm just, like, trying to take everything in. It it's got it's a heavy subject, isn't it? It's a deep subject. Yeah. I think it is for me anyway because I'm not, you know, I'm not at ease with bible passages and stuff like that.
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Yeah. Okay. I'm trying I'm just going through some of my notes I've made. Yeah. So we're talking about William Tyndale, and then I didn't know this until a while back that, 16th century Catholic, they have the the the popes crowned the kings.
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They did what? Sorry.
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They crowned the kings.
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Oh, okay. Right. Yeah.
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And, I I didn't realize that. I thought my gosh. No no wonder Henry the Henry the eighth got the up because he, obviously, he it's he his was a different reason he wanted to divorce Catherine of Aragon? Mhmm. Catherine of Aragon. But, apparently, there's so much power that the the church of Rome had. They they decided because they obviously have the army behind them as well. You don't do this, we're gonna come beat you running to the ground. It's it's horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. So, yeah, I'm just reading here the, yeah, basically, any bible most of the New Testament is written in Greek, and the the the the the the Rome had their own Latin version. I think I mentioned the Vulgate 358, didn't I? Well, there's another guy called Aramis who was around around, I think it was 15, 16 he was around. Erasmus, sorry, not Aramis. That sense of his aftershave, isn't it?
What he did, he sussed it out. He said, right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna place Greek version next to the Latin version, and he wrote it out. It's called the Textus Arismus. And what he did is he placed it next to each other to the to the Latin version that that the Rome had, and everyone could see the lies coming out of the Roman version. And guess what our King James is made from?
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That one.
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The Latin version of the Volgate.
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And it's only until recently you discovered this, isn't it? Because I know you're a devoted Methodist Christian. Got the giggles. But that's one of the Bibles that you would have read in and trusted. Oh, yeah. Sure. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Absolutely.
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It's it's quite shocking. And when you we've got another one. We've got the Ethiopian Bible. There's 88 books in that. We've got that one. That's very hard reading because the writing is is written by tiny people. You cannot be reading it. Dinky. That's for 88 books, not 66.
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King James has got 60 How many different Bibles are there then?
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Loads. That's a good enough answer. Yeah. There there's loads. One of them is called the Geneva, but the one I've been looking into recently is a 17/75 bible. And the books that they had in that version, the the basically, the Rome the church of Rome, which is connected to the CEV as well. Anything controversial they think is gonna get you knowledge, they they turf out. But the 17/75 Bible is is pretty good. It's got a lot of what we call apocryphal gospels or apocryphal writings. And some of the stuff you can get on that on 22 in I'm gonna mention tonight is the book of Enoch and the book of Thomas.
So the book of Enoch talks about what I mentioned earlier about Elohim's and the Elion and, what are actually spacecraft as well because that's Ezekiel with even in the one we've got. And, it explains a lot. For instance, there's, I think it's an a fallen angel called Azazel that gave man the knowledge of smelting metal and making swords, which kind of makes sense because I've always wondered what Bright Spark thought. Do you know what? I'm gonna get a load of granite, smash it all up, put it in a fire, and guess what? I'm gonna get some tin. Well, this information has come from somewhere else. Nice.
And that's all in Enoch, which is vast. I mean, Enoch didn't die. He God created, took him out for yeah. We're he he took him up to heaven with him. Anyway, where am I gonna go? Oh, book of Thomas. Now remember I talked to you about, Arimathea a year ago when the baby Jesus cope well, not the baby Jesus. He would have been about 12 coming to the Cornwall or and the UK and going to, like, Glastonbury to get the the lead in Cornwall for the copper and tin. Well, there is this other quite a lot of evidence for it. That Thomas, Staging Thomas, you know, the one where he said, unless I feel Jesus' wound in his side, I'm not gonna believe it. But well, he went to India, which is amazing, apparently, and there's a lot of evidence in India that backed this up.
And this is where it gets for me, this is where the rub gets eroded on why the Catholic church jumped on this book, because it takes everything away for they've ever tried to stamp on, which is authority and good money. In the book of Thomas, he just quotes Jesus, and he says, the kingdom of God is within you. So, basically, what those statements done, what they've done, they've they've made the whole hierarchy of the church redundant overnight. Do you follow?
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Yes.
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So in other words, you don't need the priest. You don't need the teachers. You've got all the teaching you need in these books. You don't need this corporation called the church where you tithe money, where you basically supports I always have a problem with somebody, especially looking at my dad. He was hard work. He was a fisherman. And you got some Herbert who works once once a week on a Sunday, and he's got his hand out. All that all finished in the Holy of Holies of the temple. That old rabbinic clause finished with. So no wonder if the Catholic church didn't want the book of Thomas in the gospels. It says the kingdom of God is within you.
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Jesus.
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Excuse me. Hello? They're they're redundant overnight, and that's why it's been been been left out. And it's horrifying, really, when you think about that.
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So the so the book of Thomas, is that a bible, or is that just a book?
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It's one of the books that was thrown out of the 17 I think it's a 70/75 bible. It it it was it was just not put in there because they didn't like it. Right. Okay. So it should have been part should have been part of the bible.
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Wow. It's crazy, isn't it? Because like we say, we know so much of our history is wrong, but you would like to think on the moral ground that the bible would be right because so many people look to it. But, actually, it must be quite horrifying if you've been so into this for so long. And, actually, well, I don't know if it's horrifying. I mean, you're a researcher. You're a truther. It's a journey it's a journey, isn't it, that you're on?
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Yeah. Yeah. It certainly is. I mean, I did too many. Sorry. Pardon? Yeah. It it it it can it basically you think I've gotta start again now. I mean, you know, you might have a bay you know, you've got a basic faith that, you know, there there is a there is a god and there there is a dark and there's a dark side and there is, obviously, the light side, and there's you've got maybe the universe and what we're doing in in in in part of this plan. But, yeah. But when when you think all this stuff we've been learning over the it's basically a control mechanism to keep keep your pretty dumbed down, keep your your eyes closed, and and and your like, for instance, your your spiritual eyes closed because, well, I can't survive, you know, you know, I can't I can't make a decision without a priest man telling me because he he he's a man of God. He's he's got his hand on the pulse. But like in the book of Thomas, Jesus says the kingdom of God is in within you. Pineal.
There there is also the pineal gland, which I think you'll find is in a lot of, stonework in in the Vatican City. It looks like a pineapple. So they were aware that the pineal gland is is a part of the spiritual awakening. And if if you have foods that calcify that, then that's gonna slow you down even more.
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Fascinating. And and to the listeners out there that can hear the old whispers, that's, Graham's wife, Jules. Bless her. They're working as a team.
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Yeah. Absolutely. But I hear you say, where's his name? Okay. I'm gonna get to that now. Okay. So, basically, we've been told, God you know, that's a very general thing. The Lord, which actually that has another meaning as well. I've got half the scriptures open here. I haven't looked at it yet, but I'm gonna go with the Isaiah 52 verse 6. And it it says that's an old testament piece of the bible, and it says, I come in my father's name. Okay? Now this is before Jesus turned up. So you've got a scripture that says, I'll come in my father's name. And we never really understood that until recently, but there's been a whole cover up of god's, the creator, real his real name. He's called Yahuwah.
Now bearing in mind that that I'm gonna get to the word j in a minute because that's imperative on this whole argument. Is the word j was not invented 350 years. It's a it's a relatively new letter. Sounds mad, didn't it? It does. So when you start digging up the transliteration on how Greek to Latin, they came up with the word j, it's not there. So Jesus is, it it's a made up word from only 350 years ago.
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So what did they call him before?
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Well, he's called Yahusha. Yahusha. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. He was called and what they've done, this that Isaiah scripture, it says, I've come in my father's name. All you have to do is add an s to Yahuwah, and you've got Yahusha.
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Yep. Yes.
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K. So when you so he's not called Jesus. He's called Yahusha. You can change anything. Okay. You know, it's it's like, when I I didn't realize that the j is a is a relatively recent letter. When I was working in Germany, there was, I think there's a lot of there's a lot of Germanic words in the English language and vice versa, like, you know, Saxony. And, the street is called Strasse, but it's it looks like an f f. So you got Strasse. Now Strasse, f is pronounced as an s, and it's a bit like that. When you start looking into the Latin and the Greek, how it got crossed over is it's, whether it's done on purpose, I don't I don't know.
There are other people that think that there is a reference to Zeus, with Jesus. That I'd I'm not a 100% on that, but either way, it's the wrong name. Now there's another thing I wanted to read out, which is probably lost it now. I have to look at that. I can't do it. It's all to do with, coming in having the wrong name, coming in my father's name, which is the wrong one. It's a bit naughty, really, because we got no excuse now because of the Internet and whatever we've got the information on. We we we should understand that we've been lied to. I mean, that's the point.
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Again?
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Yeah. Again. Yeah. So, bottom line is when you got something written in Greek, goes to Latin, then to English. It's it's you have to go back to the original text, original. But even then, some of these have been yeah. And and like I said, the the the New Testament is 3 50 AD copy, and that's called the Vulgate. And that's what the the King James was taken off. And by the way, King James, he didn't like people having any other versions, and he went round and rooted any versions out that he didn't like. And then he wrote a book on how to burn witches.
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Gosh. It's very, 1984, but, like, a long time ago, isn't it?
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Yeah. It is. Absolutely. I've just found it. Jude's helped me out on this, and it's John 5 verse 43. This is a bit of a again, it it it because we're I'm looking at a revised King James version, obviously, they couldn't help but leave some clues in there because, yes, a little bit of other stuff you think. Well, you know, they can't completely it's not all fabricated or or or masked. But that's why they leave clues like the business in Genesis 1. But this one, I'll read out anyway. 5 chapter 5 verse 43. I have come in my father's name, and you do not receive me. This is a kicker. If another one comes in his own name, him you will receive.
So how can you believe he seek glory from one another and do not seek the boy that comes from the the only God? So there there are kind of warnings in even in this version that you gotta get the right name.
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Wow. It's fascinating. I love it.
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Yeah. History show you. Yeah. And also what's that? History.
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People didn't even know and find it. Yeah. I mean, there's also the the the the gospel of Mary. This, this is Mary Magdalene who apparently was not a prostitute, and it's taken the Catholic church nearly 2000 years to apologize for that fact. They only did it a few years ago, or we've got that bit wrong. We didn't really mean she was a prostitute. And that's horrendous. This poor woman who who apparently was demonized, Jesus got rid of the demons or whatever, and she was the first one in the tomb. If you remember, go back to the gospels. Mary Magdalene was the first one that get to see where the body had gone to Jesus on on his resurrection day.
But, if you if you read back on some of them, John says I was the first there. So there's this conflict of interest that he had to be the first one. No. He wasn't. No. He was. And that's so she's she had her own gospel book that was only found I think it was 1946 or something. Then he found her gospel in 1946, which wasn't put in.
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So what made you look look into this then?
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I think it was a story of Job. I think that and also since we met you at Truro on the all the whole the whole thing, the whole deception thing and the the conveyed and the rest of it. I I think we went on a journey down to let's find out where where the truth is. But Job has always puzzled me and what and I had a problem with it way back as a child, teenager. And so what what sort of god could do that and now and then that it wasn't god creator?
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And doesn't doesn't Jesus, Yehusha, say what father would give his son a stone instead of bread? I've missed out another one. Hang on. That's but
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of bread? I've missed out another one. Hang on. That's but I think it's in the Exodus. I don't did I mention that snake, bronze snake Yeah. That's that will you know, if people wanna check that out, that that's quite a long long story. But there is snakes being thrown down to to from probably El Shaddai or Yahweh to punish these people. How dare they go off on 1 you know, on a tangent. It's me wanting to worship. Well, there's a scripture in New Testament where Jesus says
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in Yehusha What what what farm where is it? Would give his man would give his son a stone instead of when he asks for bread? And the well, he wouldn't, would he? Might be that one. Yeah. We're trying to find it. Basically,
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Jesus is is making a reference to that scripture in the old testament where they have the snakes and what what God would send you. Well, got it. This is Matthew 7 verse 9. No. Matthew yeah. Yeah. Matthew 79. Yeah. It says, what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him then who are evil have I got that wrong? Yeah. A stone or if you ask for a fish, we'll give him a serpent. So he's already warning us, make sure we get the right god even though I I think that one probably slipped in.
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It's mind blowing, isn't it? I mean, because I I'm on a bit of a religious journey. I think I always have been, to be fair, and, you know, I'm gonna go to church again this Sunday. Okay. And, ultimately, what did he say? Don't get brainwashed. No. No. I just I love the whole Bible stories and stuff like that. And when I went I told you I went a couple of weeks ago, and I do find the way that the Bible is interpreted. I just find it myself hard to understand. So, like, for that session, they talked about, Zebedeeus.
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I can't even Zebedee. We're not talking about magic roundabout here, are we? We're talking about Zebedee from the old testament. Yes. Zebedee. No. Hang on. Was it Zebedee? Oh, I don't know. But he had
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people killed and stuff under his army, basically, and the principle of it was that do what feels right, not follow a command. Anyway but I came home, and I was interested in it, so I googled it. And in a, in a paragraph, it basically summed up the story for me. And Right. So perhaps if I could go to church, they could just go, right, today's bible reading. Rather than reading the bible, just read a paragraph, trans transfer it to English Yeah. And there's your little story. And then perhaps have a little question and answer session after.
Yeah. I've always found it hard listening to the Bible.
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Have you? Yeah. Yeah. I think I am as well, especially when you
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But I didn't grow up with it like you did, and I love the idea that children go to church and things like that and learn these stories. And when you get older, like now, you know, I'm in late my late forties and early, and it's like, god, I wish I learned all these things. But I don't hold on. I don't retain information that well. So when I learn something you know? And I've got menopausal brain at the moment. I can't think of where I know. Honestly, I can't. It's awful. I wrote a shopping list the other day, and I meant to put plug in one of those air freshers, and I couldn't think of the names. I just wrote smelly thing. I
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Not referring to to Darren. No.
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No. No. But now I do find it fascinating. Yeah. And so do you still well, you obviously do bible study now, but do you do that with Jules, or is that just what you do in the evenings when she's busy working?
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Yeah. Good point. Sometimes, for instance, I might look at a program or a platform for half an hour, say on, 5th Kind, and they might be talking about Yahweh. So it might be an arrow on Yahweh and where that root word's from. The other one is stuff like ruach, like you've got these Hebrew words because they didn't have any vowels. So this bloke explains what's written what is written about and also how it's been misinterpreted or whatever. So, yeah, it's fascinating. And the other platforms I'm reading, there's the I've got 23 hours to watch on 1 bloke. He's called I thought, blimey, if I might get free as well. I'm 65.
He's he's called Jack Flores, and he's talking about the origin of of Israel and what's happened to Israel now. Oh, is there an Israel, which is another massive topic because of what's happening over there now with, with Gaza and, all the rest of it. And I'm coming to the decision that Israel was disbanded in 752 BC by the Assyrians. They were taken away. Oh, that's another guy I've gotta tell you about. It's Henry Rawlinson. Now he this is 5th, 1850 odd. He he he used to work for the East India Company, and he's a little bit of an Indiana Jones character. Basically, he there's a there's a massive carving called the Behistun carvings.
I think it's Northern Turkey. And it basically, these these are like low relief carvings, but it's got three forms of languages on it, cuneiform and 2 others. And he was responsible for translating some of the cuneiform texts from the Babylonian times. And he's mind blowing. He's well, Henry Vaughan's and check him out, but what's important is what's on these carvings. And it's basically as I've said before, there there was 12 tribes of Israel. There was 10 in the northern territory or or northern Israel, which were taken away by the Assyrians were slaves. The other 2, not long after, that's Judah and Benjamin, which is where the word Jew comes from. It only comes from that one tribe of Judah.
The rest of them are Hebrews. Anyway, basically, what it's saying is that Israel is being, drip fed into Britain and Europe. They're dispersed into the into the tribes of this country and the tribes of Europe. And when you when you think about it, it kinda makes sense. Because this whole lost tribe thing, they're not lost. They're they're in our in our culture, certainly in Cornwall. Like I said to you before, there's there's a there's a huge khipu connection with with Cornwall because of the tin trade anyway going back 2000 years. So, Bangalore.
So, yeah, it's mind boggling.
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I should say. So going back to Jesus, I mean, so I can't even say Jesus now because that's not his name.
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No. Yahusha.
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Yahusha. Never remember that.
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Yeah.
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Yahusha. Yeah. Yahusha is God God creator, and Yahusha is They've come in my father's name. And actually, if I go to church on Sunday and tell them all of this, will they be impressed or not? I'm sure they'll they'll Absolutely not. They'll they'll they'll probably start Stoning you. Yeah. That's how you can
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and he's had to go through all these stages. And then to come to realize and to actually stand up and say, I think I've got it wrong here,
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is a really major thing. Yeah. I can't imagine Graham saying that. I
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I was wrong.
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I wrote I wrote it I wrote it down on the calendar. But, you know, and then to start looking into something and then being shown as it because the more you look into something, the more you find. And consequently, the way, it's been, portrayed and if you keep going back and going back and going back and going back, you go back to the Samarias. You go back and there it is. It shows you. It's there. And as Christ said we're gonna call him Christ. We're gonna call him Yehusha. He said, seek and you will find. Ask and it will be given to you. Knock and it will be opened, but you gotta want to know. And that's the thing. And because we'd be we've been asking for Yonkers, you know, what's the truth? We want the truth. There's so much deception in the world right now. We want the truth.
And it's coming, and we're thinking, oh, that's interesting. I've gotta change everything now. Well, that's a hella, can it? But it works. It's it it does work. And it is Yahushua, and his father is Yahuwah, and that's my father. And there's a a prayer in the bible when, somebody says, well, what should we call you? What who how how should we pray? And the Jesus guy, the Yehusha, says, our father. And I think, oh, that's a cool name. My father my father is the highest of the high. And his son, Yehusha, came to this world, died, rose again to say, wait. Wake up, you lot. You're not gonna die. You're gonna you're just having a visit here. You're coming off with me later on if you believe. Yeah. And that's the way it is. So it's quite simple, really, but it didn't offer change when you've got when, you know, when you've been indoctrinated for so long. And I'm I'm I'm glad I wasn't that indoctrinated because I didn't get this side of things until when I was 34 30.
So, I I knew the other side. I knew the other side was real. So this side has gotta be real too, but now you got the name. And once you know the name, you know the name.
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Are you sure? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. I'm gonna have to keep practicing it. And, interestingly, next week, I'm having a little bible study meeting with my friend. Oh, good. Talk about all these sort of things. And I've inspired her to read the book again, The Cross and the Switchblade. Oh, excellent. Yeah. So she said, should we have you know, and her husband is the local vicar. And I love that. But we talk about all sorts of things, and I'm sure she thinks I'm a little bit quirky and mad and but, you know, underneath it all, I like to think I'm a good person. We always got on. So, you know, I will like to bring this up to her up with her. Yeah.
Oh my god. I could just see me next week at the playgroup because it's at the church, and we have some real deep conversations about god and stuff. And when I come in to say, hey. Do you know what I've heard?
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Yeah. Yeah. Never speak to that man again. He's mental. The other the other good another good guy to look up would be Trey Smith, and and I don't mean a really, really tall I'm gonna use the word. He's a basketball player, and he's rather dark skinned. He's very tall, dark skinned. He's called Trey Smith. Not him. The other guy is really tall as well, but he's he's, he's, not quite so dark, and, he's my color. And he's called Trey Smith, and he goes he delves back into the Sumerian stones and the history and the the the way things were written and the the, because every every letter in Hebrew has got a number and it's got a symbol, and it and it goes right back. If you look that up, you'll find out, oh, that's his name. There it is in stone. Written in stone.
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But wouldn't it what are you saying to her there?
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Is it run are we running that? Is it running that time now? We've got 5 minutes. We've got 5 minutes. Okay.
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Calm her down. Oh, no. No. I love it when she pops on and says a little bit.
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So we've covered quite a lot of ground spikes. I hope it was all clear.
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Well, it's making sense. I mean, I will never maintain all that information about all the different tribes and all the names and but I get what you're talking about. I get the gist of it. So that is something really, really fascinating, and, I am looking forward now to having this chat to my friend. You know? I'm not saying dismiss God. I'm just saying. You know? So, yeah, that will be interesting. So going back to Jesus's, or asha's, birthday, when was his birthday then?
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Well, it March. I reckon it was March. March, April, his spring. When the lambs are producing. When you when you go back to if right. Passover, just quickly, Passover was to do with Jesus was supposed to be our Passover lamb. So that's why all the people were in Jerusalem at that time. But this is another one. If you if you it even says this in the gospels, there was an extra holiday that Jesus was not crucified on a Friday. It was a Thursday, which gives you 3 days till a Sunday. That's just a quick one.
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So I won't be able to go to church anymore now, will I? Because I'll be like, well, I can kind of join in, but then they just don't know what they're talking about.
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But all this is also another thing, all this is also reflected in the stars because of the the Virgo and the and the, yep, the sign being in Virgo, the the the the new birth coming through Virgo. So there's this this bow has got so many strings.
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Love to talk about this again, I think. It's amazing. Definitely. Definitely.
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Oh, I love chatting to you too.
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So you're good on what we covered so far? Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Yeah. That's good. So It's, the it's such a lot to try and cover, and I I I even What a rabbit hole to go down. Oh, yeah. I've even used half the Bible things I was going to use, but I think I've given I think the calendar, the Julian calendar, the counts of Nicaea, the fact that everything's been changed time wise, and also Christmas and Easter has been changed. All of them. So, basically, we're we're involved with pagan rituals without a smell.
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Because I thought that was why I've watched a video once. Was it the zeitgeist or something like that? And they were saying that Jesus was born on Easter, and they got it back to front.
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But it's under the whole paganism thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely all spring. It's definitely spring. Good. But but even so, it it it it's it all goes back to, where the stars it it it's it's the whole thing is spiritual as well as alive, if you know what I mean. It as well as being human, it's it's also very, very spiritual. It's up in the stars. Everything as above, so below, and all that jazz. It's it's quite amazing. It's It's really amazing. And, of course, once you open 1 it's like Pandora's box. Once you open it, you think, oh, flipping that, and things keep coming out of it. You think, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. And it's just fascinating. It's fascinating how many things there are. How many I mean, to think that Joseph Arimathea actually came over here with a little lad, that's fantastic.
And to have it put in the, the doomsday book, how many hides of land there were, fantastic. You know, just these little bits that go in, you think, that is true. That is real. We got that. That's real. It's amazing. It's amazing.
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Well, I can feel your energy of excitement for it, George. Oh, I do I do love it. I can remember coming around your guys' house in lockdown, and we'd had one of our little meetings. And I I was very low, and you getting me a bible. And I was so chuffed. Yeah. And you gave me the wrong bloody one full of life.
[00:57:59] Unknown:
Yeah. It was a while, mate. Give us give us a break. I've got the I haven't got the Geneva, but I have got the Ethiopian, and that isn't that isn't a very interesting book. You do need a magnifying glass wide. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, the Geneva one is I'd get a Geneva,
[00:58:13] Unknown:
if I were you. I I just don't think I could read it. I've I've got an app here that's supposed to play you part of the bible so you can do the bible in a year. But even do story time.
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Sorry? I do story time. I'll sit down there and read you a passage.
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But I think that's what we need more of for Bible stories. Like I said, how many people? Like, I don't know. I just drift because it's all it's spoken in a language that you'd really have to think about and stuff like that. If they, like, read the story and then, right, let's simplify it. Let's have some questions and answers. For me, personally, I still have my own church that I can have this, but I would go away and think, oh, I've learned something. But it obviously touched me that day I went because, like I said, I came home and I looked into it. Anyway you. Yeah. Anyway, we gotta go because it's the last time. Thank you so much, both of you. Thank you. Always fascinating. And That's right. You always cheer me up, you 2. You're fascinating. And That's right. You always cheer me up, you 2. You're nuts.
You take care. Yeah. You too. Cheers. Take care, guys. Bye. Thanks very much. Bye bye. Oh, bless them. So that's it for this week. I will be back the same time next week. I hope you have an awesome week, ladies and gentlemen.
Introduction and Guest Introduction
The Real Name of God
Historical Context of Religious Texts
Constantine and the Council of Nicaea
Elohim and the Plurality of Gods
The Deception of Religious Teachings
The Book of Enoch and Other Texts
The True Name of Jesus
The Lost Tribes of Israel
Conclusion and Reflections
