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In this episode of the Shelley Tasker Show, we delve into the events of the past week, focusing on a rally organised to support local and national farmers. Despite the challenging weather, the turnout was impressive, demonstrating strong public support for the farming community. Our guests, Jo Wood, Al von Curt , and Mallifucus Scott, share their experiences and insights from the rally, highlighting the importance of backing farmers who are facing increasing pressures from government policies.

We discuss the broader implications of these policies, including the impact of inheritance tax and the centralisation of food production. The conversation touches on historical parallels, with references to speeches from the 1930s about manufactured shortages and the consolidation of resources.

The episode also explores the role of media and public figures in raising awareness about these issues. We reflect on the presence of the BBC at the rally and the involvement of high-profile individuals like Jeremy Clarkson in the discourse around farming and land ownership.

As the discussion unfolds, we consider the global context of these challenges, drawing connections between local events and international trends in land acquisition and food security. The episode concludes with a call to action, encouraging continued support for farmers and vigilance against policies that threaten their livelihoods.

[00:00:59] Unknown:

Good   Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show here. Whoops.   Coming live from Radio Soapbox dotcom. It's good to have your company. I'm also streaming live via Rumble. So if you wanna join in the chat, leave any comments. Just go and look at my name, Shelley Tasker.   So today's date, Wednesday,   27th November 2024.   Happy hump day, everybody.   And we've had a bit of an eventful week, and we thought it'd be a good idea. Well, I thought it'd be a good idea, and then everyone agreed that we would do a roundtable   this evening.  

So, I'd like to introduce our guests. We've got Joe Wood,   Elvond Cut, and Malefika Scott. Good evening, guys.  

[00:01:41] Unknown:

Good evening. Thank you very much. It's a friend to be back on on air. Thank you. You're welcome. Hello. Good eve  

[00:01:49] Unknown:

good evening, Joe. Good evening, young Al. Sorry, Joe. I've replaced your young Jo with a young Al.   Oh, that's not fair. I know. Sorry. Sorry.   So,   just an update, really. Over the weekend, we all attended,   an awesomely   organised rally,   mainly organized by the amazing Jo Wood. And, we thought to get started, we'll hit off with that. So who's gonna start?  

[00:02:16] Unknown:

Well,   I don't want to be the one I don't want to be the one to jump in obviously because I didn't organize it, but it was. I mean, the the turn if you consider the weather, the Cornish sunshine we had down here. So any overseas listeners will know that by now obviously, the Cornish sunshine means miserable downpour of rain.   Considering the Cornish sunshine we had, I thought the turnout was absolutely flipping amazing, really, being honest.   I it wasn't just where we were stood. I noticed that all around the shop fronts,   around the surrounding area, there were peep thought that it was just people sheltering from the rain, and it wasn't. They were there for pretty much the whole time. So thought the turnout was pretty good, don't you? It was. It was.  



[00:02:56] Unknown:

And, Jo, do you want to just, bring in a brief about what the rally was about?  

[00:03:03] Unknown:

Yeah. The rally was about supporting   local farmers   as well as national.   They   are majorly   under attack,   pretty much from   every angle from the government.   It seems as if   mister Starmer and his cronies   are hell bent in,   really bringing   the hand that feeds us to their knees.   So, really, it was in support   to   show the public   just how much we need their backing behind the farmers. Otherwise,   we're all gonna go hungry.  

[00:03:51] Unknown:

Yep. In the simple terms.  

[00:03:53] Unknown:

Excuse me. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was really,   apart from the the turnout itself, it was really good. I thought that, you know,   for me I don't know what you think, mister Von Kurt. I don't know what you think. But for me, it wasn't so much about being there to show the public. But for me, it was about being there to show that, you know, to show the farmers that there were people there that that supported them. You know? Definitely. Definitely. Yeah.  

[00:04:19] Unknown:

Yeah. Because it's it's obviously not just about the, the,   the inheritance tax issue. It's there's more to it than that, isn't it? It's the fact they're getting screwed over left, right, and center in every every way going.  

[00:04:31] Unknown:

Yeah. If you screw them over.   Screw them over. Screw them over. Screw us over. You know? Basically, essentially,   one of the great points I thought that farmer Pete brought up was   the fact that we import   nearly half   of our produce into this country.  

[00:04:50] Unknown:

Take this 48%.  

[00:04:52] Unknown:

Isn't it? Yeah. Nearly half. Why? Yeah. It's not that we don't have the means to grow.   It's not, you   know, years ago my granddad did a speech back in,   I think it was 1936,   and it was called an address. And it was basically about   shortage. And we're talking all the way back in 1936, and this this nonsense is still going on, this manufacture shortage,   just to keep not just keep the prices of things up, but to consolidate   the the means of production into fewer and fewer hands.   That's what it seems like to me. It's not just, you know, it's a worldwide problem. It's not just happening in Cornwall or in the UK. It's happening everywhere around the world.   Wow. What a coinky dink as blackbird 9 would say. Do you know what I mean? What a coincidence.  



[00:05:43] Unknown:

All by design.  

[00:05:45] Unknown:

Yeah. Exactly.   Well, it's it's just, incredible how people your your average Joe walk in the street who we were obviously in the way of on that horrible miserable wet day. Oh, I don't blame them. You know, who's this bunch of idiot in my way? I'm trying to get out of the rain.   And why are they shouting no food at me?   Well,   maybe they'll go home in a few years and think about that very, very seriously. Who knows? You know? But,   it was it was it was an awesome,   day for me. It was it was great to just to get out and and really mentally get back in the saddle a little bit because I've taken a bit of a hiatus from politics for a while. So, yeah, kinda nice on that respect as well.  

[00:06:29] Unknown:

Yeah. It was it was good good, especially considering the weather. Right? Like, you know, we all stood there, soak wet through, and there's quite a few people really considering.  

[00:06:37] Unknown:

Yeah. We can't please, Joe. You've finally come down from that   because I've been bouncing all week.  

[00:06:45] Unknown:

Yeah. I I to be honest, I'm quite surprised at myself. I wasn't really bouncing   over it. It's   it was   it was an arduous task.   I had phone call very early in the morning from pharma p who   thought that we should   not go ahead because of the weather.   And I think that probably   probably turned my thinking   somewhat on on the whole thing.   And it was like, absolutely not. You know, we we had to fight   hammer and tooth to get to   that point in the morning.   It just seemed as if everything   was conspiring   to be against us. And I was like, no. No. I don't care if it's a 100 miles an hour of gust winds. We are doing it.   And I was I was relieved   that he had said,   okay. Well, I was just sounding you out because I have the same idea as you, but, you know,   just wanted to give you the option to pull. And I'm like, no. No. You know, if if we can't   show up on a miserable wet day for our farmers when   they are out in it 365   days of the year and let's be honest. You know?  

We've pretty much had a winter   for the last 12 months,   And those guys have been out in it   every day   from, you know,   morning till tonight,   from dawn to dusk,   putting food on our plates. And   it   it had to be   it had to be an event of   such large proportions.   1,   you know, to make the public aware that this this stuff is going on. And 2, as Malefica says, to show   the farmers' support, which was, you know,   part of the reason   for carrying on in such dire weather conditions.  

[00:08:59] Unknown:

I think that's, you know, particularly the whole what you're saying about the the the farmers being out in at all time. I'm a gardener by trade, so I'm out in at all time, you know, most of the time as well.   What a turnaround of events. What a lovely event it must have been for those farmers driving the tractors, though, in their nice warm cabs   while all us were public were out there. You know, we had a turnaround of events. And I think, you know, that that I think speak probably spoke more for those because they were very you know, you look at some of the people driving the tractors. Some of them were really young and they had their other harms in in the cab with them. You know, they can't have been older than early twenties and stuff. And you think these Yeah. This is their future that, you know,   that that we're talking about. You know, it's our future as well. Exactly. Yeah. But, no, it was heartwarming for me.  

It was not you know, as I say, I'm out with it all the time anyway. In fact, it was Shelly that turned around to me and said, what idiot turns up to a rally with no jacket on?  

[00:09:54] Unknown:

And it was hammering it down. No coat. No nothing.  

[00:09:58] Unknown:

No. No. No. Just like I say, I've got  

[00:10:01] Unknown:

sorry. Go on. Carry on. No. No. No. I was just gonna say it was definitely the day to be wearing a jacket, and I think perhaps   you were the only one that was on it.  

[00:10:11] Unknown:

Well, that just that just goes to show how vehemently I support their cause. Doesn't it, really?   Yeah. Like I say, they are out in it all the time. I did think about how nice and warm it would have been in one of those tractor cabs. And I thought, you know, how nice that must be for them. What a turnaround, you know.  

[00:10:28] Unknown:

Yeah. And it's interesting that you picked up on the amount of young people   driving   the tractors. You know, I I   obviously   was sort of firsthand to see   the amount of young people that were on board.   And I don't say this in a manner   to diss them at all. But sometimes, young people can be a little bit flaky.   So it was really, really   heartening to see them turn up in the numbers that they did. And it was nice to sort of see them, like you said, in their cabins   looking so   so clean and so pretty while the rest of us were looking like Dragged. Proud rats.  

[00:11:18] Unknown:

You know? That's great. I just  

[00:11:20] Unknown:

thought that was, like, wonderful. You know, like you said, it was the tables returned.   It was us out on the ground doing the boot work, doing, you know, the leg works that they would usually do. And and they had a chance to sort of, you know, put on their someday best if you will and and drive around and show off.  

[00:11:40] Unknown:

And that that was really nice to see. Yeah. It was great. It was great. There were some there were some fancy looking tractors there. There are obviously some some there was obviously a little bit of tractor envy going on as well, revving engines and, you know, little yeah. The equivalent A tune of the horns. Who do the 2 loudest?  

[00:11:58] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:11:58] Unknown:

Would that would that do do you think there'd be a chance to organize another one with, you know, with the with, when the weather's gonna be a bit better? So you you give us a bit of an idea of the turnout.  

[00:12:11] Unknown:

Yeah. You know? There will be. Did it should I just hear you say that, Jo?   You didn't really. Did you did you actually just say that? It wasn't necessary. No. But I always say it. It isn't like, no more. Never. No more. I'm done. I'm done.   Okay. So we've just heard it in the horse's mouth. There will be another one.  

[00:12:30] Unknown:

Ah, brilliant. There will be another one.   Yeah. I think I think, you know, you   a point in time that we're all at, you just can't take your foot off the gas. And,   I think my driving force   for the last   four and a half, 5 years is,   you know, just keep going. Just keep going because there will be light at the end of the tunnel. The moment that you can see that   is the moment that you, you know, put 2 feet on the gas if you can, and and you just go all out. And I think, you know, we're just now   coming over the the the brow of the hill to be able to see that light.   I know today,   a whole load of farmers, I think they they the the majority of them came from Wales. They were making their way over to Dover to start some disruption over there. So I saw some of that footage, which is really encouraging.  

The you know, because   by nature, farmers are quite placid, which, you know, I I I think Shelley and I, you know, pass come on on that   on   well, week yesterday, wasn't it, when we went to London? The the farmers were very, very subdued, and I was quite surprised that they weren't all up in arms when they were protesting in London.   So by nature, they're very placid, but   it's it's heartening to see that they   they are now really getting the bit between the teeth and that they're not just taking this line down and, you know, they're going all at it. So it's heartening to know that they're at Dover,   you know, causing blockades,   making things go extremely slow, I e, imports into the country,   to send a strong message   to government   that the farmers'   nation   are not going to take this lying down.  



[00:14:27] Unknown:

Absolutely. And so we shouldn't.   You know, as I say,   you know, there is,   my granddad wrote or or said back in his speech, he said in 1936, there is no excuse of any kind whatsoever,   no shadow of an excuse for lack of food, clothing, shelter, and the necessities of life.   Lack caused by restriction is not lack, it is sacrilege. Lack caused by destruction is not lack, it is sacrilege.   Over 2,000,000 people starved to death in the world last year. That would have been 1935.   And yet there is worldwide restriction and destruction   of food.  

This is back in 1936.   So we can draw   a direct comparison to what's being done now, You know?   The examples he gives back he he gives back then,   he says I'll just continue this little bit because this is where the he starts bringing up some statistics.   So,   this is not God's will. None of this is God's will. It's man's will.   While we pray, God give us this daily bread, consider   just some of the things we're we're,   which are going on as a result of worship of man made policy in preference   of, the worship of God's policy.   So   200,000 Dutch cattle slaughtered at the rate of 4,000 a week,   50,000   milk cows ordered to be killed in Holland December in in 1934,   a 100,000   cows to be slaughtered now in Holland,   thousands of cattle destroyed in Denmark and Argentina,   half a 1000000 perfectly good oranges thrown into the sea off of Liverpool during August 1933.  

It was a very hot and rainless month. Tea restricted,   by a £121,000,000   in weight that is in 1933   alone. Likewise, sugar under what is known as the Chad born plan. It's not God's plan.   30,000,000 bushels less wheat produced in 1933 to 1934,   15,000,000 acres of cotton reduced in the USA,   6,000,000 suckling pigs destroyed in the USA,   a million sows destroyed in the USA, 200,000   calves slaughtered,   in IFS, which I believe is is,   an island, I believe.   Millions of herrings thrown into the sea off of Lerwick, Aberdeen, Lewesoft,   and other places. I've seen this destruction with my own eyes. 31 and a half 1000000 bags of coffee destroyed in 1 year recently.  

30%   of the 37 to 38   of of crop,   destroyed in Brazil as well, that the coffee crop. So   this is all this is all been going on for a very long time. And these   Nowadays, what's happening is is the,   these restrictions are being put in place. We're subsidizing overseas stuff so that we can,   have less,   quote, unquote, food security   at home. In order that we can centralize,   we, quote, unquote, they can centralize   everything   into a into   a few small conglomerate   companies   owning the food supply. The largest   dairy,   the largest   dairy in Cornwall has just been sold   to a German company. Yeah.  



[00:17:55] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:17:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Truwithan dairies. Truwithan dairies. It's no longer Truwithan dairies.  

[00:18:01] Unknown:

Oh, really?  

[00:18:02] Unknown:

Well, it it's called Truwitham Dairy, but it's owned by germ a German company.  

[00:18:07] Unknown:

Yeah. It doesn't surprise me.   Seems you're getting onto the agenda. You realize,   that I think lots of people have been talking about is, Larry Fink,   BlackRock CEO, and Bill Gates. Is it in number 10 Downing Street recently? Mhmm.   As you know, Bill Gates buying up farmland,   BlackRock,   Ukraine, and the rest of it.   Breadbasket of the world.  

[00:18:30] Unknown:

Yeah. You've been looking into that as well, Jo, haven't you, today?  

[00:18:34] Unknown:

Yeah. I think they,   they've already done a deal, obviously, behind closed doors with   starma.   Don't quote me on the percentages,   but it's definitely   no less than   20%,   may maybe even 30,   not higher, but between 20 30%,   that they have the right now to go in   and start buying up British land.   You know, that there's caveats in there that they won't buy anything that goes to auction   because they won't take the debt on as,   the farmer selling. But they now have a contract   to start buying up   Tish farmland.   Here's Farmer  

[00:19:22] Unknown:

site off on that. Crazy. Sovereign land. Sovereign land. It's not just Thank you. Yes. British farmland. It's Yeah. Sovereign   land Yeah. Being sold to international   entities   such as Yeah. Gates Foundation,   BlackRock. Now   square me this circle, folks.   Anyone listening,   the the folks of the round table, whatever.   You know,   all wars   are bankers' wars. What is enabling   the international company, or you could say American company, BlackRock, to buy up Ukraine at a rate of knots.   Oh, it's that naughty mister Putin causing wars over there.   So   the so the the company has to pay for the country has to pay for its war effort somehow. So how is it doing it? It's selling everything off at a rate of knots, rather like the British empire was sold off   in the 2nd world war. It's selling everything off, lend lease style at a rate of knots,   Because someone else someone else who's apparently in opposition to all this going   on has created a war in said country.  

So   is it the case that it's all 1 like George Carlin says, they're all in one big club, and you're not in it?   Or is is Putin genuinely on the other side of the coin?  

[00:20:48] Unknown:

I don't believe 30  

[00:20:52] Unknown:

years. Expanding. Okay. And any anyone else anyone else got an opinion?   Thanks, Jo, for chipping in there.  

[00:21:00] Unknown:

No. I don't know enough about it. Yeah. I don't know enough about it.  

[00:21:06] Unknown:

But I think where I don't know a huge amount. But,   you know, obviously, it's all a huge game, isn't it? It's it's all being played out.   And I'm sure   every world leader has their part to play.   But in terms of Putin, I don't believe   he   is the   tyrant   in all of this.   It's it's it's definitely   it's definitely, you know, the hidden hand. It's not it's not even   Black Croc. It's not even Vanguard. It's it's much higher than that.   And that's the frightening thing in all of this. You know? It's you you can deal with what's in front of you. You know? You you can kind of  

[00:21:54] Unknown:

size your enemy up, if you will. Yeah. You can look him square in the eye Yeah. And say, right. Let's have a fair fight.   Yeah. You know? But not like this, you can't.   Mhmm. And this goes back to what I was saying earlier about, you know, every single it's not just Cornwall that's having these problems with, you know, you know, farms being sold up at a rate of knots because farmers simply just can't afford to run them. Or they're having to sell sections of the farm off in order to keep their farm running.   And that's just it just takes the making. You can't do you know what I mean? You gotta sell part of your farm in order to keep farming.  

That's just disgusting. So, you know, this isn't just happening in Cornwall, though. It's not just happening in in England. It's not just happening in Europe   or just America. It's happening on a worldwide basis. So this, you know, so I'm so I'm just throwing it out there. It all seems to be,   you know, what and this is my thoughts and my thoughts only.   You know, feel free to interject or or whatever. But I just feel that it's it's one one game being played with 1 wallet paying for it all.   With the illusion   of all these wars and rumors of wars,   etcetera, as as Bob Mahali would put it. You know, wars, rumors of wars, etcetera, etcetera.  

You know, rumors of disease, fear porn, fear porn, fear porn, and everyone is just sort   of cower tailed into saying, oh, look, you know, as long as I've got my iPhone   and as long as I can sit down in front of EastEnders every evening, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Because I don't care what goes on in the world.  

[00:23:28] Unknown:

You know? Yeah. And and and you're you're you're totally right on that.   Just slightly off topic, but to emphasize what you've just said,   we've all fallen into that trap.   My phone, funny enough, on Saturday, got waterlogged. Do you know how that happened? Do you know, with that lovely liquid sunshine?   But it got waterlogged. So I'm still without a phone. Are you enjoying it?   It's only really today that I've kind of relaxed   about not having it. You know, Saturday,   Sunday, Monday,   I was  

[00:24:06] Unknown:

In withdrawal?  

[00:24:08] Unknown:

Yeah. I I was struggling,   but I'm beginning to react into it. But it really reminded me of what you've just said. You know, we are so reliant. As long as we've got our phones, as long as people can, you know, watch the BBC and all the propaganda,   you're fine because you're held in that pattern.   You're held in that point.  

[00:24:30] Unknown:

Take away my freedoms and just leave me my creature comforts.   Yeah. Yeah. And really, it isn't a creature comfort, you know. It's it's it's So how's day 4 been? How I've got to ask because this I'm I'm this this is my this is my favorite subject almost.  

[00:24:45] Unknown:

Really? I'm I'm   I'm okay. I'm trying to lean into it because I think the universe is trying to tell me something. So my phone did arrive today, a replacement phone.   It's it's a slippery slope from here. Well, no. No. But this is what I'm saying, the universe.   It won't allow me to set it up.   It's just like, nah. Not playing today. Nah. And it's not because I'm sort of, you know, going through the process in the wrong way. It's just not allowing me. So I'm like, oh, oh.   The allure of, you know, the Nokia   phone box standard   is is quite strong,   and I think that's the universe saying, do you know what?  

Move away from it. Move away. That's a good idea, Emily. At the bad man. Don't look at the bad man.  

[00:25:38] Unknown:

I never thought I'd say myself say that. But looking at it that way, if you've got that phone for   emergencies and what have you,   you can't be every time you're out checking your text message   checking your emails and stuff like that, can you? Perhaps it is assigned to you. Oh, yeah. No.   And you'll all have to do what we do with Maleficus. If we wanna get hold of him, we message his partner.  

[00:26:01] Unknown:

Yeah. Incoming alert, message Maleficos. Smoke signals. Smoke signals. It's fine. Just get on top of the nearest hill. Send them send it to you while the blanket over the top.  

[00:26:10] Unknown:

What did we all do before we have mobile phones? You know? You would either go to the phone box in the village square or on the street corner. Or if you were lucky enough to have telephone in your house, you know, you would quickly make a sneaky call to your friend with your parents not looking.   You would make arrangements.   Interesting point. Of those.  

[00:26:32] Unknown:

That's a really interesting point you just made.   So how many of you guys have got a landline?  

[00:26:38] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:26:39] Unknown:

No. I don't. No? I've got one, but it's not currently working because Darren needs to change the settings.  

[00:26:47] Unknown:

Okay.   Juan Curt.  

[00:26:51] Unknown:

No. You don't have a landline.  

[00:26:53] Unknown:

So I had to ask because I know, but the anyone listening would know. So so that's interesting, isn't it? So I have a landline.   Yes. Alright. It's fiber optic. It's digital because they're getting rid of all the copper wire. But I've only got a landline.   So and, you know, you guys, if you wanted to contact me, you could always contact me on my landline, and I'll answer it when I'm not   busy. So Oh, isn't it? I love it. Ah, do you know what? I may get a callback an hour later.   Yeah. Do you know what? I don't have an answer phone either. I don't have an answer phone. So if you don't get older me there and then you don't get older me. Sorry. I'm busy. I just think you don't wanna be got older liberated. Because you've never told me that you've got a landline.  

[00:27:36] Unknown:

You've hidden that from me. You've hidden that from me. I've always had a landline. Well, I never knew that. It's never come up before. I'm very anti answer phones as well. It's you know, even on a mobile device, I won't have an answer phone on it. I'm just like, no.   I'm I'm I'm I'm not gonna be,   you know,   even more of a slave to it. I then have to listen to a message   to then act upon it. Like you just said, Maleficus,   if you don't get hold of me, you don't get hold of me. It's it's it's simple.  

[00:28:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Should we should we buy should we buy Maleficos,   a fax machine or, a pager maybe?  

[00:28:14] Unknown:

Yes.  

[00:28:15] Unknown:

Pager pages pages maybe not a good idea, pager afterwards. Well, not recent events. Yeah.  

[00:28:21] Unknown:

But and gutter is You know, I quite fancy having a pager.   Oh, I don't. We I I think we could all start a new rage.  

[00:28:31] Unknown:

I I, I worked as a hall porter for a year at one of the first jobs I ever did, and I had to wear a pager. And that do you know what? Reception were the most irritating bunch of bastards you've ever come across.   You got I got about 60 paces out of the room and the beep beep. Oh, my goodness sake. Yeah. So yeah. No. No pager for me.   You know, come find me or just give me a ring when I'm at home, when I'm when I'm not busy.   Why would you want a phone with you when you're potentially busy anyway? I can't understand the mentality of it. Sorry. This isn't the no mobile phone show. This is the thing. I mean, I I've got a phone. I'm just as bad as anyone else. But but  

[00:29:05] Unknown:

didn't didn't you find   that when you used to make an arrangement, people used to stick to it, and you used to it used to create that that bond, that trust,   and and now people just take it for granted. So I'll get older than later. So I'll I'll send them a message if I'm you know? I'm just as bad, but, you know, it's it's sad really because You don't even send a message when you're late.   I try. That's because that's because I'm usually on my way going on. It's because you're it's because you're busy being late.   I actually wanted to bring up a point, to do with I watched a really interesting video. I'm just trying to remember the name of of   it. I I I don't even make notes.  

I, in my yeah. I I can't find them. It was it was to do it was a video was to do with, and one of you might know something about this. The, official   explanation as as to why they've, implementing   why they're putting, an inheritance tax in the per 1st place. And anyone anyone listening probably   it's it's almost futile. It's almost,   pointless, really, because we know it's bullshit. But the the official excuse is farmland being used as a financial instrument, and they're trying to stop that,   from happening. The likes of James Dyson buying up 36,000   acres in East Anglia.  

And Jeremy Clarkson   interestingly actually brought this point up on, when he was being interviewed,   and he said, you know, it's almost like they're they're trying to take a take a a a rifle to him and actually,   what did he say?   Using a a blunderbuss   instead   and pepper spraying everybody   in the process.   All the all the other farmers,   by by implementing this, obviously, it's gonna affect a lot more people. But, I haven't I haven't looked into the figures. I did look up, like, the average farm value in in in Cornwall,   And, I think I think, you know,   the thing is, it also,   all   the the inheritance tax also takes into consideration the amount of,   farm machinery   and, assets that the farm has. So I think, actually, I think the figure was something like you only pay this inheritance tax if you're over 3,000,000 or something. And then I don't know what the average value,   complete, you know, total   assets and all the rest of it is for for a Cornish farmer, even the average farmer in the UK. But,   do they have a reason to be to be upset?  

I mean, yes. They do anyway. I said I said I said this to a friend of mine. He's like, you mad at the end of the day. Like, nobody should be paying   inheritance tax. Why should we be taxed on something we've already been paying taxes for? And that's a very good point in itself. But, Absolutely. Yeah.   But there is there is something there in the fact that people buying up land like this. But, you know, it could be a double   yeah, exactly. It could be a double whammy. They they they bring in this and how it's act. It forces farmers to then,   sell the land. And in that in that sense,   the land value will come down, and then I'm sure BlackRock would sweep in and buy it from.  

So it's   it could you know?  

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Yeah. It could be on the other hand, though. They they actually they've got the money, and it's like if Jeremy Clarkson, a lot of people seem to aspire to him, don't they, and think he's a good man?   Perhaps with his money, he's done a good thing because he knows yes. He's, like, avoided a loophole of the whole inheritance tax thing, but he'd rather buy it than the likes of Black Rock have it. Who knows?   It's funny how it took a celebrity to bring it to the fore, isn't it? Is he really a good man? I'm not sure. Well, I don't know. That's why, I mean, people seem to think he's a good man. I I like watching a little bit of TV, but that's that's TV. That's not real life.  

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So Well, it's a bit like it's a bit like people like Russell Brand. I mean, full of shit. Every every time you see a little screen grab him on YouTube, he's got his mouth wide open like a gormless twat. But it's it's   regardless of what people think, are they bringing  

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the attention to it? Is that even that might even be the plan. You know, it's, the Pied Piper take on it. Yeah. Exactly. Down the garden. What I'm saying. It's it's really rare that stuff, really. Yeah. Is he really a good man? Isn't it that's what I say. That's what's the point I made. Isn't it very funny how they've used a celebrity   to bring this point to the fore?   Is he really a good man? I'm not sure.  

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Jo Wood? Thoughts?  

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Always   seems to be the way. There's always some celebrity involved somewhere along the lines.  

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Yeah.  

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It's it's it's worth taking  

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with that. Flip side is   going back to the point of   playing devil's advocate. Is that just not human nature?   You know? Because that's how we've all been preprogrammed.   You know, you bring out the celebrity,   the Pied Piper,   you know, to fight the good fight.   Is that what they're doing?   Because   that's all we know.   Has it taken somebody that's   a celebrity,   not necessarily   a good or bad person? It's just a well known figure that people go,   oh, okay. Well, this is all we know.   You know, you never get the average Joe on the street corner   rising up through the ranks to say, hang on a minute. This is wrong.  

I don't know whether he's a good or a bad person. I think people are aspiring to it because that's all we know.   I don't know whether they're using him because,   you know,   it's a Pied Piper situation.   I think I think   from a psychological   aspect,   in essence,   it's a psychological   war all over.   And Makes sense. Yeah. I think we've gotta be careful in not   jumping on the bandwagon. And I'm not defending Jerry Clarkson, but or anybody that sort of is always forefront of an odd man,   not jumping on the bandwagon   and tiring them all with the same brush. Because you see so many times, don't you, online,   you know, something will be   put out onto social media, and they go, oh, yeah. It's a conspiracy. Oh, yeah. They're doing this because of x, y, and zed.  

But are they?   Or is it just because that's how our lives have always run?   And when they're aware of it because we're sort   of having  

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the great awakening, and we're going, god a minute. Why are we living like that? Well, we've been living like that purely because we've been programmed to. I I think we should turn it back on them though. If they're gonna put themselves in the forefront of it, and it and it matters so much to them, which which, you know, is a good thing. It's a noble noble thing.   Because you usually find   where do they go with it?   Like, you know, is it, like, a month down the line, they've just gone quiet? Or or I suppose it's up to us. So I mean, it's it's hard to keep, keep   it's very tuned tuned into a lot of this stuff and actually find out where where the truth is. You know, you've got this we've got this inkling that something's just not quite right, and that's it. So it's important to be a little bit skeptical, but   keep an open mind, but not so, open that your your brains fall out. Yeah. I think people people like Jeremy Clarkson,  

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Dyson, anybody else in this particular   circumstance,   it's almost as if they don't have a choice.   Because they're so high profile, they've either gotta go very, very quiet and very underground, or they've gotta come out and appear to be fighting for the greater good because they really don't have a choice, do they? You know, it they've got one one option or another.   And in terms of Jeremy Clarkson,   because he is so high profile, if he didn't come out and say   he feels it's wrong,   then it   almost frames him even more as if he's even more in bed with the government. You know, at the end of the day, he's a businessman.   But, you know, and without a shadow of a doubt, we all know he bought the farm   to escape, you know, inheritance tax, to use it as a loophole.  

But turn that on its head. If that were you or I and we had that amount of money,   of course, you're gonna wanna protect it. You know?   So then it comes back to what Al just said.   None of us should be paying inheritance tax. Absolutely. We shouldn't have to be in   that position   where we're   exploiting   loopholes   to protect   what we've already paid on.  

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Absolutely. Well, this is the thing.   Good old Charley boy.   How much inheritance tax did he pay exactly?  

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No. That's different. That's that's he doesn't own his money. He doesn't own his money. Exactly. Because they all put it in trust.  

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Yeah. Because they know how to. They employ lawyers to tell them   how to do what they want to do, not to tell them not,  

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you know, not what to do. You know? I was gonna say regardless of whether Jeremy Clarkson,   you know, whether it's a case of he's a useful idiot or it's a case of or should I say whether it's a case of   never waste a good crisis on the government's depart on the on the government's part or whether he's a useful idiot, The, you know, the jury it doesn't matter what the jury decides in some respects on that fact. It's it's like Joe said in   the beginning. We're kind of,   it's the world that we live in, and everything's gonna be pounced upon whether they're useful idiots or not.   It's just How do we stop that? From from Well, how do we stop that? I mean  

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I mean Who do we stop? Like like I said.  

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Yeah. And  

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onto onto that one that conversation really in a subtle   way, I just wanted to share with the listeners that whilst   researching on the camp is it Farmers Movement Cornwall or Cornwall Farmers Movement, Jo? Yes. Which one? Farmers Movement.   Farmers Movement Cornwall. Right. On their web page FMC.  

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FMC.  

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I wanted to get a bit of information   about Pete and what it was about and stuff like that a few nights ago.   And I was reading through, and I I was quite shocked. I know   Pete knows his stuff about what's going on and stuff. And   on one page,   he was really quite   venti.   Don't go thinking I'm a conspiracy theorist because of this, blah blah blah blah. But he goes on to the whole agenda 2030   and Bill Gates and stuff like that.   And then he had a list of suggested reading.   Well, for those listeners that don't know, Maleficos'   granddad wrote a very popular book.  

Anyway, this book,   hidden government,   was number 1 at the top of farmer's Pete's   website recommended reading,   and I was so excited. I said, like, message Maleficus. I was like, guess what?   So it's wonderful that these farmers as well, like Pete, know what is going on   and is recommending   I mean, I don't know how many people think, oh, yeah. You know, what's that about? Blah blah blah. And go out and buy it.   But I can't emphasize enough. I've said to everyone, oh, I'll lend you my book, but I can't lend it to you all.   So I mean, I I quite interesting, wasn't it? Because yeah. I was really ch when you said because I I I don't Because it hits that subject of who who really runs what's going on. That's what I wanted to do. It's it's the money power. It's it's the people who are who are able to finance everything. You know? Capitalist  

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and communist countries   were all run by the same wallet. And the, you know, if you ask somebody   knowledgeable like, Paul English, for instance, he'll tell you the end result   of capitalism   is communism because capitalism Yeah. Concentrates   finance, you know,   into fewer and fewer hands.   So   no. It was really nice, though. It was really nice to see that that book was at the top of someone's list, not just it was nice that it would just been in the list, but at the top of the list was really nice.   And the second book in the list was actually,   published by the same publishing company that published my granddad's book originally, The Nameless War by Archibald Moore Ramsey.  

He was locked up. He was a member of parliament   who was locked up under the 18 b internment laws at the beginning of,   beginning of World War 2.   He was a member of parliament who stood in staunch opposition   to the war, along with many other people in the country,   they were all rounded up under the 18 b internment law, which was supposed to cover terrorism, specifically   IRA terrorism. That's why the law was drafted in the first place, so that somebody could be put in prison and interred without trial for up to 4 years.   Archibald Moore Ramsay, after being incarcerated for 4 years, from 1939,   I believe, onwards or 1940 onwards, the war was they they had to let him out because the 4 years were up. He was still officially an MP, and on the day he walked out of prison, he walked straight back into parliament.  



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Okay.  

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Because   yeah.   But he wrote a book on his experiences and who he thought were behind them.   And, you know, I always put it down to this rather than anyone getting themselves into it at unnecessary trouble.   All wars   are bankers'   wars. As granddad put it in hidden government,   why is it?   Why the banks of the world will lavishly create money   out of nothing to finance these wars and yet for peace, credit is immediately   restricted.   So, yeah, it was really not only was it really nice to have a have a chat with Pete afterwards,   because   I thought I've gotta have a chat with this guy because he's my granddad's book's at the top of his reading list.  

And he said, oh, yeah. Let's have a chat. So that that was really nice. And and do you know what?   Really, really kind hearted.   Really down to earth. And so genuine. You know, you know, when you look someone in the eye I think it was CS Lewis said that the eyes are the window to a person's soul.   And, you know, you know when you're speaking to Pete, he's he's the real deal. He's just genuine.   So that was lovely. That was that was a really, really nice surprise. I'm not saying that because he's hit my granddad's book to the top of his list. He genuinely was a lovely chair.  

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Yeah. That was great for me. I'm in the pub. I love that. Yes. Yeah.  

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And you know what was really nice? Because, I mean, I should mention, we had a little we had we had the BBC turn up at the rally. I've gotta mention this because it was funny.   This sort of dweeby young man, you know, with his camera and his little beanie hat, and he came over and he said, oh, is is Pete so and so going to be giving a talk? And Shelley was like, yeah. Yeah. He is. And he's like, well, do you think I might be able to talk to him? And he was like, of course, you can, man. It's, you know, it's a free world. You know? Don't worry. He said, well and then he started getting pushy, like, well, do you think I might be able to talk to him before he gives his talk? And and then he followed that up with, well, because it's timings you see, and I'm on the telly.   And I just thought,   shit, love. Help us off. Yeah. I think is it because it's timings you see, and I'm on the telly. I said, well, look, mate. I said, unfortunately,   you're corporate, and and we're independent. So you're gonna have to wait.  

Yeah. And he waited. He waited for the whole time, and I didn't realize it the whole at the time. Because I thought we were waiting for Pete to park up his tractor and come running down at the end, as Shelley put it, to give his little talk.   No. He was there the whole time, and the BBC guy was oblivious.   Thought that was brilliant.   Yeah. Sorry. I just had to mention that. That's a just a little yeah. Because I hate the BBC. Come on. You know, I mean, I'm I'm not being funny. They're one of the biggest problems we've got in this country is the BBC and corporate corporate media. So, you know, any little dweeby man coming he was fine. He was fine until he turned around and said, well, it's timings you see because I'm on the telly. And I thought you stuck up little  

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pieces of You told him anyway, but I guess.  

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Yeah. I did. I enjoyed that. Thank you. You can come again to Cornwall, dear sir. I will I'm quite happy to have a running with you again.  

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It's also   interesting that   Jane Kirkham,   Labour MP,   turned up.   And I   I thought I was very, very restrained   when she approached me.   You know, there were there were many things   I wanted to say to her, but I was   in full flow of doing the rally.   Yeah.   I I don't know how long she stayed for. I I figure   not very long. She hot footed it out of there.  

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There's a photo op for people like that, ain't it? Yeah.  

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You know, it was   it was interesting   that it drew   the corporate crowd that it did.   But, again, sort of just going back to whether that's a good thing or a bad thing in terms of sort of, you know, the high profile of Jeremy Clarkson.   It's almost like, you know, there's no such thing as bad publicity,   whether it's the BBC,   ITV,   Sky,   whoever it is.   I think the times that we're now in, you just have to grab   the ball by the horns, so to speak, and run with it and use it to your advantage.   And   you've just illustrated   perfectly   in how that was done on Saturday. It doesn't matter if you're the BBC. You've got your own timings.  

Today,   we're running the show. Today,   we are the independents.   Today,   we're running to our own timings, not yours. Yeah.   And I think   there is   I I don't even think   a lot of the general public are aware of their own   awakening.   I think,   you know, more people are becoming   aware   of   well, hang on a minute. Why do I have to do that? Just because you're saying that I've got to do that.   That there is a very   quiet   awakening   of, dare I say it, woke   people.   I don't think there's enough time for them   to fully wake up, but I think that they are   beginning to have one eye open.  



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And that's a promise set. I've got a feeling the woke lot are all stood there scratching their heads.  

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They don't know what's going on. It's it's the drip feeding   effect, isn't it? They they may be at that point in their journey going, I don't know what's going on. But subconsciously,   they will be thinking about it, whatever that situation is. Let's take Saturday, for example.   Why have they got tractors going around? Why is there this big fuss going on? Oh, well, never mind. I'll go about my day.   But the penny is already in there. The seed's already been sown.   They will continue to think about it. And that's how you break break people's  

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sort of subconscious thinking. You put that seed in there. Dissonance. Yeah. Yeah. On a massive scale.  

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It it just keeps growing and growing, and people will grow at their own rate. And that's what I'm saying. I I   I think   time is against them, but there is enough of us.   What's the what's the percentage,   Malefika?   So you only need 3% or something like that to make a difference?  

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You're talking about critical mass.  

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Yeah. Now I've always I've always thought about it in terms of I I can't remember what it was. Was it what percentage of the American populace took part   in the war of independence?   Wasn't many. It was about 4%.   4 or 5%, I think. It wasn't wasn't very, you know, it wasn't a huge part of the populace.   But I think you've hit the nail on the head in many respects, but I think the problem you've got largely is that, yes, people   have these seeds planted. And this comes down to the the parable of the seed sower as well from the bible. You know, if the if the seeds fall on stony ground,   nothing's happening. If it falls on, you know, it's got the seeds have got to fall on fertile ground. That's the issue. And Are you using puns again, Milnefica?  

No. I'm not actually. But really well pointed out. It is the seed sower's parable completely. You know, you you can never   you can shout someone to them when they're blue in the face.   You can even torture someone, and they'll just tell you what tell you what you want them. You know, tell they'll tell you what you wanna hear because it hurts. And you they'll get you to stop, you know.   You can you can speak to people because they're blue in the face, but you can never wake   everyone up. They have to do it for themselves, and they have to have that want there. And the moss seeds that are planted, great.   One of them will find root   somewhere.  

But   I think in some respects,   some people   some people only grow so far, and then it's all too much effort.   And they end up with their creature comforts not being so comfortable anymore. And   and they just wanna take that little pill to get back in the matrix. You know?  

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Yeah. It does happen. I agree. I agree.   I think,   you know,   however many seeds you do   throw out there, you're never gonna get   a full flurry. You're never gonna get a full crop, but it will bring them to the point of   not being fully   asleep, which Well,  

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my one of my favorite pastimes is licking everyone. As I've said to Shelley many times, one of my favorite pastimes is walking the dog,   bumping into random people,   and planting   really insidious seeds. Like,   if every country in the world is in debt,   who are they all in debt to?  

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Yeah.  

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And walk away.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah.   Little things like that. You know,   great. But I think but I think   I think there will have been a lot of people that we were just an irritation to that day, and they would have gone home and not given it a second thought.   It won't be until the,   the the boot is on the neck that those people start thinking. It's rather like Alexander Solzhenitsyn said about people he talked to in the in the Siberian gulags, and they were sort of saying, why didn't we do more when we saw what was happening?   But by then, it was too late. Well, but but then that  

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that is   almost not down to us, but   as a collective,   to keep the heat on, to keep the foot on the gas,   you know, It's not just a one hit wonder.   It you've gotta keep going.   And and sort of at the beginning of the show, I said, you know, the tractor's going to Dover. You know? So we've had we've had the big   rally in London. There's been other rallies going on   over sort of, you know, the nation   all week.   And now   you've got the tractors going to Dover.   So you've just got to keep going and keep going and keep going to really tip that scales of balance where   although,   you know, let's say, you know, you only need 5% of the population to make a difference. We're pretty much   there because the and I'm gonna swear. Pardon me, listeners. Because these bastards have been so heavily brainwashed,   you know, it's almost as if you've gotta work twice as hard   just to take them to the tip of   being able to see with just one eye what's going on. Oh, yeah. Okay. I've seen it. I've looked right. I've clocked it. But I'm just gonna, you know, stay at this level of of awareness. I'm not gonna fully wake up.  



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Surely, that's gotta be enough for now, you know. Here's here's a hopeful thing for you guys. I got sent through a petition today. I don't do petitions because I think they're all a waste of time, but I did sign it.   So there's me eating my own words and eating my hat. But this is a government petition   calling   calling for general election because the London party, Akita Starmer, etcetera, etcetera, have not upheld what they were voted   in for. They've not upheld the thing. So you'll be glad to know currently,   there are nearly 3,000,000 signatures out of 75,000,000   people in the UK. So I don't know what that is percentage wise, but it's not bad. We looked at this the other night. Be interesting to know. It when I looked at it is.  



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Well, 68,000,000. Sorry, Shadi. Go ahead. That's alright. 68 a half 1000000 in the UK.   And on Sunday, it was 1,300,000.   So I think it's slowing down a little bit, but, you know, we're way over 3,000,000.   It's it's been fascinating. Well, it's just 2,002,805,000  

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and 38 signatures.  

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Have you read their response to it, though?  

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It will be debated.  

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Yeah. But have you have you read Kia's Kia's Stalin's,   I can't help but say that now.   His response to it,   in the you know, it's not gonna make the blindest bit of difference because they're blaming bots.   You know, they're they're they're gonna blame Russia, probably,   Russian bots. Apparently  

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apparently apparently not from even  

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even from the UK, but, you know, it's bullshit. Obviously  

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Fine. But Is it? I don't know. That being the case, then the people who've signed that need to put their money where their mouth is, sharpen the pitchforks, and walk on Downing Street march on Downing Street. Absolutely.  

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Absolutely.   You know, that tsunami   is already there. And if if he's not gonna   get this is the wrong metaphor. If he's not gonna start building the dams to stop that tsunami, then that tsunami   needs to carry on flowing.   It it you know,   you can't you can't rise up via a petition.   And then for,   you know, the idiot to say, I'm not gonna take any notice. I just see that   as a red  

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red rag to avoid. Oh, you hear it as a dictatorship?  

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You you you've got, you know, that there's nearly 3,000,000 plus people that are   not happy. You've gotta take notice.   I'll be   extremely   disappointed   if,   you know, those 3,000,000 people just go, oh, well, we tried,   and they walk away. You know, you've gotta carry on riding this wave. You can't It needs you can't stop.  

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It needs to get to a lot more than 3,000,000, and then,   you know, like the critical mass thing,   you know, it can't be ignored. It completely can't, you know, unless they turn around and say they're all   it's a bit it's a bit like,   So turning around and and and,   calling,   calling the UK public,   a bunch of far right,   bases.   Yeah. Yeah. I mean Yeah. What this we we've, isn't it? We've we've got a man who a creature that is,   that that failed to prosecute,   Jimmy Saville. Jimmy Saville.   Yeah. Yeah. People You protected him. I don't yeah. I was alright. It's just we've got a legal man in in in running our  

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our country. It's No. We have a puppet. We have a puppet. Yeah. It's as simple as that. We don't know. He's not a man. You know? You you you sit around the table with him, Al, you'll you'll quickly discover he's not a man at all. Not at all. Not at all. He's in the door weasel. The the next step would be,  

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you know, if he's not going to listen to   whatever the petition turns out to be,   they're already talking about   putting respect orders on people   and making it a criminal offense.   And if you read the government's web page on it, it's very,   ambiguous   as to what they are pinning down the respect order to be,   and they will enforce local councils to put those respect orders on people.   You know, they talk about antisocial   behavior,   and it chips away at community's   sense of confidence   and pride,   and it undermines local businesses   and can have a devastating impact.  



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Well, that's a bit of a copious.   Exactly. COVID or or mass immigration.  

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Yeah. It's very ambiguous, the words that they're using. So are you are you actually saying that, you know, you're gonna take away article 11 in the Human Rights Act, you know,   freedom for expression. You you can't go out and protest. You can't go out and rally. I mean, I remember back in COVID   days   that they said even one person   protesting   was enough   to be a criminal offense if somebody took   offense   to that person protesting.  

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There's a lot of these people getting getting away with the hate speech nonsense now, though. It's starting to get thrown out of court. Quite a lot of it. Yeah. Oh, that's that's good. Because I was gonna say all these people sitting in court for making posts on on Facebook. Yeah. They might have you know? Essentially, essentially, if   they made a face on,   sorry, a post on on online, whatever it be, Twitter, Facebook,   They they're they're sitting in jail because they forgot to,   you could argue they forgot to change their privacy settings.   Yeah. I mean, it's it's that ridiculous.  



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You've gotta be savvy if you're going down that that road.  

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Well, it's it's been a great chat, guys, but we've come to an end now. God, they went quick. Very interesting.   So thank you, Jo, Maleficus, and Al,   Wom Kirk.   Great to hear. Great to chat to you all, and we'll all do it again sometime soon, I'm sure.   So dear listeners, we'll be back the same time next week. Have an awesome week.