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Broadcasts live every Wednesday at 7:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

Welcome to another engaging episode of the Shelley Tasker Show, where we dive into a lively roundtable discussion with guests Jo Wood, Mallificus Scott, and Al Von Curt. We kick off with a light-hearted chat about the comforts of home attire, exploring the cultural nuances of dressing gowns and pyjamas. The conversation takes a turn as we delve into the complexities of modern online marketplaces, discussing the implications of platforms like eBay and Vinted requiring bank details and the broader tax implications.

Our discussion then shifts to the societal impacts of digital currency and the looming influence of a Chinese-style credit system. Jo shares her experience of going without a mobile phone, highlighting the challenges and unexpected freedoms it brings. We explore the psychological and societal shifts post-pandemic, touching on the changes in human interaction and the pervasive influence of technology.

Paul English for an unplanned second hour.

In a spirited exchange, we tackle the controversial topics of government control, public compliance, and the erosion of personal freedoms. The conversation is peppered with humor and candid anecdotes, making for an engaging and thought-provoking dialogue.

We also touch on sustainable farming practices, the importance of supporting local farmers, and innovative agricultural techniques like electro-culture. The episode wraps up with a humorous discussion on personal habits and the quirks of everyday life, leaving listeners with a blend of laughter and reflection.

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show coming live out of radio soapbox.com.   It's good to have your company.   I'm also streaming live via Rumble.   So if you wanna check that out, you can join in with a chat, leave any comments,   or join the conversation.   Today's date is Wednesday, 11th December 2024.   Happy hump day, everybody.   And   we are having a roundtable this evening.   So I'd like to welcome on board miss Jo Wood,   mister Malefika Scott, and mister Alvonne Kirk. Good evening, guys.   Good evening. Hello.  

How are you all doing?  

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Wow. Lovely. Lovely now. I'm nice and warm. Just getting it so cold.  

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It's very cold, isn't it? I'm only now warming up.  

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Yeah. I've been out in it all day blowing leaves about pretty much for most of it. Wee.   Are  

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Are you in your dressing gown, Jo?  

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Of course, I am.  

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Is it? Do men do it as well? I actually sorry.   Say that again.  

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I said you'll be pleased to know that I actually got dressed  

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today. Oh, good. Good.   High standards   on a day off.   Do do you men wear dressing gowns as well as, like, house coats?  

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Well, I I personally don't. I I find it very much a female thing in this household.   Yeah. Very much. So my missus loves getting home. She loves it when she knows that there's nobody coming around for the rest of the day.   And if she knows that we've definitely got no visitors coming, she'll get dressed in her pajamas as early as, like, 3 o'clock in the afternoon and carry on doing whatever she's doing   just so that she's nice and cozy and warm. So yeah. And that's very much a female trait in this household.   I tend to get dressed and go to bed.  

You know?   Yeah. I get undressed before I go to bed. That's that's kind of Pajamas?  

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Or do you go nude? No. No.  

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No.   No.  

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Sorry, listeners. No. No. No.  

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I am I am joking about a pint.  

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You've listened up.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Only takes a pint, and he'll be walking around with no clothes on. There we go. You heard it here first, ladies and gents. Yeah.  

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Only a pint. Well, I'm quite bad usually after, like, 1 well, 2 glasses of wine, and I've got a potty mouth on me. Very potty.   But, anyway, we all we all have our little things, don't we? We we know we know we know this. Yes. I know. Sorry.  

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It makes it makes for some interesting conversation there.   Yeah. Sure.  

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So I don't know whether anyone's got any topic, Matt, that they wanna bring up. But the first thing I wanted to bring to the table is how I've had to close my eBay account because they want access to my bank details.   And I was later informed   that,   you know that website that started up Vinted   where you can sell all your old clothes and stuff? Yes. Well, if you sell over a certain amount,   they want all your details as well for tax.   Yes. They do. Oh my god. So you can't even sell your secondhand clothes now without the government taxing it. Am I getting that right?  

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That's correct. It's crazy, isn't it?  

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That is disgusting.  

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I also I thought I thought sorry. Sorry, Jane. Alright. I also saw online  

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sometime towards the end of last week   the all banks   are now writing to people that have their children   under the age of 16   bank with them,   because they need to report that for tax purposes.  

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Oh my goodness.  

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Yeah. Well   They're in they're in the system the moment they're born.  

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Yes. They are. Well, as soon as you sign the birth certificate. That's why that's why if you Yes. If you don't assign a name to your child   through the due process that the government provide, they will assign a name to your child on your behalf.  

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Really? Yes. That could be quite interesting, couldn't it? Well, it'd be quite disappointing if you miss the deadline, wouldn't it? You might you might get a name like Keas or Kia.   Oh,  

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or Rachel, even worse.  

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They might My my my friend had a car called Rachel. I thought that was not a bad name for a car.  

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No. Every car is called Betsy.  

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Yeah. You're right.  

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Yeah.  

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Mine isn't. Mine's called Tranny.   No.   It actually is.  

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Yes. Is it Chase? Chase?  

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Well, it's made by Ford. You can fit a lot of things in the back of it. So, yeah, it's a it's a tranny. It's what they call a tranny in this neck of the woods.  

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Yep.  

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Good stuff. Where I work. You didn't realize you just got got us canceled.  

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Yeah.   Where I work,   I used to do nights, and, we had a transit van.   And,   I always used to say, oh, I'll take the tranny out. And they go, you can't say that, like, we're surrounded by students. You can't say that. There's a lot of people here that don't know what they are. And I'm like, but it's the tranny, and I love calling it the tranny.  

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It just so it totally reminded me. I I heard that, the the Christmas song, your cheap lousy faggot. And they've totally they've totally taken that line out of it now. Oh, really? Hi. Doesn't surprise me. Yeah. Christmas in yeah. Yeah. Christmas in New York or whatever it is.   Yeah.  

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Hello. Isn't that?  

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Well, it's a little Kirsty McColl Kirsty McColl and the Pogues. Yeah.  

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Yeah. I don't know if you've heard that new they've rereleased the whole Band Aid song.   I I mean, how that was such a song. Absolutely shiner. Yeah. And it's like Sorry. They have just ruined an amazing song that they play every Christmas, and they're now playing the new one   rather than the old one. And there's even a rapping section in it. It's crap.  

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Oh, no. I would oh, there's no I didn't get that, but I turned it off. I   I always thought that song was a bit of fucking rub it in the face of the 3rd world anyway, isn't it? Because it's like you've got a bunch of privileged,  

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like, people like Bono going, let them know it's Christmas time. Now and I'm sure they're just sitting there starving going, is it? Right. Or am I just totally misunderstanding that tune? Oh, no. No. No. I used to think that. It's like what you you think because they're hungry and starving and dying, they don't have the ability to go, oh, today is Christmas day. Wicky. But it's like the thing is that they're sick as hell.  

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There goes Santa. I haven't got a chimney yet. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Bono. I better remind them that Jesus exists.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. And I wonder how much money did raise, though. And, I mean, apparently, it is still raising money now for them.  

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Oh, do do satanists   celebrate Christmas? I don't know about that. Can you? Yeah.  

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Anyway It's gone quiet.  

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So your pressing subject is the whole eBay thing,  

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Maleficus. And Well, it's not really pressing. I just needed to get it off my chest. Eric. I've had an eBay account.   You know, how you know what it's like? When you normally, when you put something on eBay, alright, you sign up to PayPal. And PayPal's got access to your bank, But eBay only ever had access to PayPal.   Then they gradualized it last year by making it so that you had to auto sign had to make it so that it auto signed in to PayPal.   And then   And now, they're they're bypassing PayPal altogether. So PayPal is kind of no use whatsoever on eBay now, or it is. You can still pay for stuff. But if you want to receive a payment from eBay, they, a, want access to your bank. And it says in the small print at the very top of the page, it's not not even that small, saying that, you know, we may need to access your account if funds are due, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So that is just giving eBay   full access to your bank account. Yeah. Oh, blocked. Yeah. Absolutely.  

So yeah. So I've got that off my chest now. So I wonder if they show you.  

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Yeah. Well, it's always been it's always been linked to PayPal anyway, so I don't understand   why I thought, you know, when you sell something, they need an they need access to your bank account or your money. So what does it matter? Or I don't know. Yeah. Because they could take it and say because, I could get scammed on eBay, and eBay might decide in the scammer's favor and take the  

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the credit out of my account.  

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Oh, I see. Yeah. Right. Exactly.  

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I don't use eBay very much anymore. I mean, when it was first, it was quite big. I used to get so excited bidding on things, and I always remember a friend asking me to, like, up the bids on a few of their items. And I got so carried away. I won everything. I mean, obviously, you don't win it, do you? Because you pay for it, but they never asked me again. I was like, I'm so sorry. I just had to win it. For it.  

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I just, like, at least to get annoyed of people bidding on stuff, and I'm literally sat there within the last 12 seconds waiting to press buy.  

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Yeah. Like, you Now I think it's buy now.  

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Yeah. Can I use Vinted, and I've got a heap of stuff to sell out there? And I've just moved it text.   Oh, well, you know, when I sell these items, Maleficus, and it all builds up in that little account. And I think sometimes I drive around for, like, 20 minutes looking for somewhere to post it for a quid.   Oh,   yeah. Why am I doing this at this moment in time? I've got much better things to be doing. Because you put things on and forget. You know? But, here's a handy bit of cash to you know, I usually get it up to, like, a £100 and then just spend it or take it out and just keep buying more clothes and shit, basically. Excuse my language. Well, you have an offer long. Not for long because, obviously, you know, you buy over or make over a certain amount of vintage, and you're gonna start getting taxed on it at source. It's gonna have to be a lot, though, surely. Not for a few £100 a  

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year. Well, I suppose it depends on how they, amalgamate the rest of your tax records   on, you know, digitally.   Yeah. Because it will all, make no mistake, this will all   get fused into one process   over time.  

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You know, you go you go 50p over, I swear to god, they'll be coming to take 25p of that.   And that that's the whole thing about digital currency.   It's they it's right there. You're literally   cutting your wrist and giving them your blood. They can go in at any time   and see and take what they feel is duly theirs.  

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Yeah. We're getting quite close to the whole Chinese credit system, aren't we? We're halfway there, I'd probably say.   You know, it's not we haven't got to the point. By pure acquiescence of the public. And,  

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Jo, can I ask, how did you get on with no mobile phone? How long did you last?  

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Well,   well,  

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I went cold. To be honest, I don't mind. It's just because I know you went cold turkey. And this day 3, you were kind of getting used to the idea? That's what I was gonna say. I went cold turkey. You know, the first 24 hours was horrendous.  

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Day 2, I'm just like, okay. You know, just just go with it. Day 3, I'm like,   I really don't like this. I'm digging my heels in. But once I got past it, I was like I got to sort of day 5, day 6, because I did, like, 10 days.   And I'm I'm like, do you know what?   I quite like being in my own little world and people not bothering me. I I think Did you really do 10 days? Yeah. Well done you. Well done seriously, that well done you. A lot of people could not manage a week. Yeah. Well, Apple locked me out because I I put the wrong password into it in my cloud three times.   So then I had to email them, and I'm going, it's me. And I I'm telling them all the information they want. And they said, yeah. We've reset it in a week's time.  



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Well, there you go. But, you know, look, the Lord works in mysterious ways. Did you enjoy your time off?   Did you enjoy the peace and quiet and enjoy your time off?  

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Yes. Yes. I'd I'd do you know what? I I was left with a feeling of fear of missing out.   But Right. Yeah. Got you. I think I think if we were all   in the same boat and we didn't have mobile phones and we reverted back to, you know,   going down to the phone box and making a quick call, okay, I'll meet you outside so and so, do the and that, I'd be fine.   But I just felt like I was missing out on something because everybody else had mobile phones. Yes. Isn't that just how it works? Yeah. Absolutely.   Yeah.   Yeah. You know, there's something to be said for   not having it   because now I have the replacement,   something very   very peculiar   has happened.  

I've never really been   directly   affected by it,   but whatever's happening, I am directly affected by it along with Farmer Pete.   Today,   we   had gone up to Truro Livestock Market. Sorry, guys. I'm just gonna tell you my story. Do it. And,   you know, we were up there doing our farmers bit, and we have a meeting   over in Newquay on Saturday.   So we were talking about that,   and,   there were 4   very out of place   youngsters,   like, you know, purple hair   and   Zilliam Pearsons   and weird or wonderful makeup.   And I was like, well, they're not here to do any bidding on any sheep or cows, are they? And   at some point during the morning, I went and sat in my car because I had to make a phone call,   and one of the girls was going around putting leaflets on car windows.  

She saw I was sitting in the car, I put the window down,   I took the leaflet, finished my call, read the read the leaflet,   and   always   always revealed to me the purpose of why they were there.   They were from a group that's associated   with hope not hate.   Oh. They they   have   they've called themselves something.   I can't remember what.   And they're saying, oh, you know, we support farmers,   but we need to make you aware   that Farmers Movement Cornwall   are a   neo Nazi   white supremacist   group. Oh, dear. I went abs yeah. Well, Shelly, I if you were there, you would have had to have, like,   literally pulled me back. I flew out of the car and I chased   this girl because she, like, ran off down towards the road where her friends were waiting. I hope you've done   your   jet boots up and got your truncheon   ready.  



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Well, I didn't need any weapon. My mouth was chopped. Boots and truncheon. It's what you're essentially having with that.   Had them.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   4 of them.   4 of them. And they were going, well, you know, when you had your rally in November,   we were there. Reform were there.   They're, you know, they're far right.   We saw certain members that we've identified   as being Neo Nazi,   they were in your group supporting.   How I didn't   assault anybody is a miracle.   I was seeding.   However,   back to the question about the phones and everything and what's happened.   Pharma p and myself   cannot post anything   on Facebook   at all,   and it's happened within the last sort of 3 hours since we've been home.  

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I think Facebook is down, though, Jo.   I haven't been able to post on it as well. I hope so because Yeah.  

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I like, Pete is convinced that these kids are, like, being funded by George Soros or, you know, the powers that be. And I'm like, no. They're not. You know? Although they managed to   fly at the whole car park up there,   I don't think that, you know, these are professional flyers.   I think they've clubbed together and they've done it themselves.   And he was like, I don't know.  

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Yeah. Well, it's more likely that they're, you know, they've they've got to earn their Starbucks vouchers somehow, Joe.  

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Well,   yeah. Yeah. I I guess so. But, you know,   I'm one of those people that just never forget. And I Don't tell me about it.  

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Don't annoy Joe. That that  

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that their their face and,   you know,   their words, their mannerisms   are etched in my mind now, and I will find them. I will find them. I will hunt them down.  

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Well, that's what I said to farmer Pete. They just need look. I mean, this is all about if this was in the workplace, this is this is just a training issue. They simply need educating. That's all.   I ended up, my son threw a party,   a couple of years back for his girlfriend, and his girlfriend invited a load of her friends.   And one of them was probably stood on the opposite side of the road to me and Shelly when it came to the,   Nuki rally.   Right. Okay. And, yeah. That was that was quite interesting because I was like, so Wow. I'm scratching my head going, so, like, you like communism? And you're like, yeah. Yeah. I really do. And I was like, but what about things like   Loddamore?  

Oh, yeah. Well, that's all been gravely exaggerated and blah blah blah. I'm just like, oh my god. I'm literally hurling books across the room at this lad.  

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But it's a prime example, isn't it, of how the younger generation   have so easily been indoctrinated?  

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Yeah. I don't think it's just the younger generation. I think, you know, this is   this is just a new generation of them. That's all. I think these   yeah. And they've been taught by their older generation who've been at every, you   know, Millwall   football,   you know, hooligan incident since, you know, the year dot. Whatever. Do you get what I mean? These people are shipped all around the country to cause problems. And they've got their little protege everywhere they turn up. Oh, so and so's coming. Do you know? He ends up he goes around here and he was there. And you know that big thing that they did up in London? He goes there as well. And blah. And so and so's coming in with him. And he's he's yes. They've got their little their little following. If you look at the hope not hate website,   I'm happy to say that   there's a fair few books on there that I think are actually really good books that they've got on their should be burnt list, you know, that need to be eradicated list,   just because that's what they're like. And, you know,   again, the the far left and the far right are so akin to each other that their methods are exactly the same. Yeah. You can't burn books unless you're far left   or far right.  



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Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was talking to Shelley sort of towards the end of last week, and I said,   I can't remember what state in America,   but they have now made it   a state law   that any   school, any educational facility,   if they have any books that are   older than 2,008   so precursed   2,008,   they've removed them all from the school. You do not learn from them. You only learn from books that are 2,008   onwards.   Nothing before.  

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Yeah. Updated the curriculum, obviously. You know? What what did what has been every conquest,   in every conquest throughout history? The main thing is the subjugation.   You know, when they, you know, when they when the Germans went into Poland, they were looking for the Polish intelligence here so that they could put them out of commission.   Whether that meant liquidating, whatever, The Russians did the same. You know,   in every war throughout history, what they've done is   they've rounded up all the sort of, you know, the the well educated folks and the people who are outspoken and this, that, and the other, and they become the political prisoners or, you know, political martyrs in in a lot of cases.   And,   well, that's that's   one of the things that Hitler wanted when he went east is that after a certain   space, after a certain line drawn on the map, he said, well, anywhere past there, as long as they can read road signs   and sign their own name, that's education enough. We don't want them getting too educated.  



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Yeah.   Yeah. Well, it's history, isn't it? You know, I say it quite often.   This is just   history repeating itself and it's Absolutely. Like, it is so tiring to, you know, think, oh my gosh, We're having to do this again. All over again. Yes. Though, like George Santayana says, those who who don't remember their history  

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are condemned to repeat it. It's as simple as that. Yeah. You know, if you don't remember your history, you are condemned to repeat it because you make the same old stupid mistakes. And, you know, one of the things that is always used against you throughout history is your good will.   Because in in most cases,   when if, you know, if we're fighting a war here, if we're fighting a battle here in any way, shape, or form,   goodwill   is a sign of weakness.  

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Yeah.   Hello.  

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You're back. Back.  

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Yeah. Sorry about that.  

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How unprofessional,   honestly.  

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That a 100 megabytes lasted up a whole of about, well, 10 minutes, 5 minutes. So never mind. You're back. I was just talking I was telling, Millifocus about this before the call. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Well, welcome to the next  

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You'll have to, you know, rewatch. Well, we can't rewatch. Is there anything you'd like to listen back? We've had a bit of a rant. Is there anything you'd like to bring to the team?  

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I've missed the rant. So you'll have to go back in time.   I I listened to what you were saying, like, the last few minutes   with a friend of mine, and just saying how our, yeah, our goodwill's being used against us. So,   I totally agree.   Most people don't know what's going on, do they? Because they're too nice.  

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Yeah. Or Well, you've you've gotta be a good sport, old chap. That's yeah. So that's what got most people to go go to war in the first place. Yeah.  

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Yeah.   Yep. Well, it's the same tactics, isn't it, they used nearly 5 years ago,   you know? But, you know, you've gotta be a team player. You've gotta take one for the team.  

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Are you talking about the IQ test?  

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Well, that as well on a poison dart. Yeah.  

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Which is one of the same in in Von Kurt's opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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You they used your ability to critically think and go,   hang on a minute.   Since when did   a perceived virus have a tape measure   that it could, you know,   tell whether you were 6 meters, 2 meters, or whatever it was. And tell the time.   And tell the time, you know, for the curfew,   and to know whether you were walking up the right the aisle the wrong way in the shopping center.  

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Yeah.   I I saw an interesting thing with with, a certain doctor that,   that was on I I can't remember if it was on this morning or or one of the one of the, rubbish TV channels.   Yeah. No. It was, doctor Hillary. Doctor Hillary. That's it. Hillary.  

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Doctor Hillary.  

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He he's eating his words now because they're actually having to admit they've actually admitted the whole blood clot thing. And, literally, I saw this thing earlier where they were playing the video, and it was saying about,   it was clips of doctor Hillary saying, no. There's no links to to, to the clots. And then literally, it's him them, the same people saying, okay. So there's now a,   I don't know. It's a news thing saying that they've they've now having to admit that there's, an issue with clots. So Yeah. Well, you are supposed to think that they're You've gone from my intuition.  

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Hey? Yeah. Well, look, you know, you are supposed as the general public, you are supposed to think that they are, a, incompetent,   b, in the pocket of someone else,   and c, untouchable.   And therefore, it induces a kind of hopelessness in the public that they don't know which way to run. It's like a rabbit in the headlines. So the Hegelian dialectic, you know, just Yeah. You know,   put up one fence at a time until the until the, you know, the horses come for the feed and you close the gate on them. That's it.   So,   you know, it does give everyone a kind of hopelessness because most people now you speak to, most people, I'm never having another, you know, even old folks like, you know, I'm never having another one of those injections again.  

I've spoken to so many. I work for a lot of old folks.  

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Yeah. I had an interesting conversation at work yesterday. Like, everybody was sat in the laundry because   the home is, like, only gonna be open for another week. It's just we're literally   packing up shops, so to speak.   But they were all going on about the COVID   jabs, and, yeah, I wouldn't have any more. This is all the staff   and saying all the problems that they've had since the jabs and stuff. And there was one lady there, and,   she's about 20 weeks pregnant. No further along than that. But we got onto the whole vaccine   topic,   and it's the one thing that I have to really struggle not to shout about. Just like you know, you get so passionate about it, don't you? And I said to she said, well, yeah, I would never have those ones. And I said, are you gonna vaccinate your baby and stuff? Oh, yeah. He's gonna have them all.  

And,   I was a bit like   and just going on about the vitamin k thing that babies get, you know, as soon as they're born.   And   I was just trying to throw in some, like, key information   and stuff about statistics   and things like that, but we did manage to leave. You know, there was no raised voices or anything. I just said, well, you gotta do what you gotta do. I said, but just do one thing.   Look into it properly.   You know? It's there's one thing that I used to get so riled and really fall out with people about, but I've realized now over time, there's no point in falling out, is there? You know? They strongly have got their viewpoints, and I've strongly got mine. And even though I know I'm right,   it's,   it's awful. You know, I've been at the doctor's surgery when they're taking their babies in for their jabs, and you just sit there feeling sick.  

I'm like, oh, if only they knew what they're putting into their babies.   All for The doing the right thing.  

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The divide and conquer, it's it's that's exactly what it is and what it does. It's I don't know where I've   no. I don't know if you've noticed, but people don't seem to be able to get on very, well anymore. It's,   yeah, it's,  

[00:29:02] Unknown:

Well, I had a very interesting experience of what you've just said there, Al. I was at work yesterday,   and   to put it quite simply, I was set upon by 2   male members of staff verbally.   And I really couldn't   figure it out until   the end of the day, and I was talking to somebody else. And they had pointed out to   me, they're jabbed.   I'm sorry, but they're vaccinated   and Mhmm.   It's it's it's   clearly   affecting   people's minds. And I was like,   no, surely not.   But then,   I started to think about all the other interactions that I've had probably   in the last   couple of months. And I really   feel and have experienced   people's behavior   has   changed quite dramatically.  

They're quite people are quite   they're either even more   introverted   or they're really quite aggressive.  

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They do to me, it seems like there's a line. And if you cross it, it's,   it seems to be,   people are very quick to   quick to,   pick you up or I'm I'm I'm saying this, but I haven't really had any experience of it that I can put I can, yeah, I can,   I can give? But,   some, yeah, a feeling,  

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just something I noticed or something. Yes. Something has really shifted in those that were very much,   you know, all for it.   Something that they have really shifted up a gear.  

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In what way? In the in the in the fact that there's a there's a egg on face and there's a bit of denial? Or is it just No. No. No. No. No. Like,  

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not fighting their corners in, oh, you know, self righteous, we've done the right thing.   The   if if they perceive you as crossing the line,   then literally they're begging for blood, and they go from, like, 0 to 10 in a nanosecond.  

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Mhmm. I see. There's gotta be a certain amount of fear. There's gotta be a certain amount of fear   in incited by the fact that,   you know, it's obviously something that preys on other people's minds. Those people that because I know, I say, I worked for an old lady,   90 years old. She had her jab about   8 weeks, her her COVID jab, about 8 weeks before I went and did the work. And she said, I've been ill ever since. I'm never having another one. This this woman remembers   running from stooker bombers   when she was a kid. As well. Yeah. You know, literally in living memory, somebody now in living memory remembers running away from German Stuka bombers as when they came in to dive bomber. You know? And they had to hit the ground and and grazed all their knees, and I got the I got the whole story. You know? What the hell?   But even, you know, even people like that now are saying, I'd never have another one. I'd never have another one. So those people,   those people that have already suffered or are people around them have suffered because there are a lot of those. There is a lot of   I I know of people around me firsthand   that have their husband,   their daughter has has got,   dreadful problems with her platelets, her blood platelets now.  

She's also been left with problems as a various people that I've come into contact with. And, you know, 99.9%   of them all say, no. Never again. You know, where have we heard that before? Anyway, so  

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Isn't it horrendous though? I mean, just hearing you say that, it makes me so angry.  

[00:32:52] Unknown:

Like But it does everyone. I mean, I spoke to someone the other day, and he he'd got just got a package for his wife through the post, and it was it was,   homeopathic   medicine because she's got a problem.   And, I said, oh.   Well, I said,   great. Good honor for for trying something different. I said, these these pharmaceutical companies just wanna make money anyway.   He said, I think you're right there. And I said, look, you know, I said, I think a lot of people have gone that way after the nonsense, you know, back in 2020.   And he said, I think you're absolutely   right   there.  

So and that's coming from someone that's quite long in the tooth as well. So,  

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Yeah. I'm in lots of groups on Facebook. I think I just join anything I think is interested.   Far too many. I must stop doing that. But I'm in one because, you know, I've been suffering long term with my,   what would you call it? Reflux and stuff like that. And I was actually considering   surgery, and the surgeon phoned me last week to, like, talk through some bits. And I said to her, you know, for the time, I want to leave it. I'm looking into homeopathic   stuff,   and I want to see if I can heal this myself. And she was lovely, and she was really like, no. Yeah. Good for you. And   call us again, and we can sort this out another time. But as I was saying to Joe last night,   I've been trying so many things myself.  

I've stopped taking   all of the prescribed medication,   and I'm now touch wood. I've had a week where I'm feeling okay.   You know, still there a tiny bit, but nothing compared to what it was. And I'm convinced   that all of those Omeprazole and stuff just made everything worse. And I say to everybody, well, they're just treating the symptoms all the time, aren't they?  

[00:34:31] Unknown:

First thing, I I I don't wanna be one of those people that,   sort of like I've just done exactly what I've just done. Just jump jump on this and,   and become the Internet doctor, but I've been through it myself and,   still still go through it on on   occasion.   But one of the first things you can do is get some,   get some activated charcoal   powder.   It's very messy, so be careful with it. But, or you can get tablets. Yeah. I've got tablets. I've got tablets for everything from the health shop. I I actually put a bit like,   a big tablespoon,   in a in a pint of water and drink that, and your whole mouth will turn black trying to get it anywhere, but it it puts the fire out instantly. But fortunately, I haven't had to do that for a while.  

But there's there's a whole manner of things, which I could probably take   up the next hour   of talking about. Feel like that because I became a doctor as well. Activated charcoal. But microbes, get yourself, going wet I'm doing my gut health. I'm I'm looking after that taking probiotics, but my problem is Right. The best one is microbes. It's a liquid, and it's it's brewed to, pH to the 2.3 or 3.2, but it basically survives   the survives the acid in your stomach.   And it's it's really, really good, but it does it does take about a good 6 months to get yourself back on track. But, a good   yeah.  



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Yeah. But, like This is something you know a lot about. You are great at this. I mean, you need to ask Al about all sorts of things like Yeah. We want we want When it comes to food and health.   Colloidal silver.  

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15 years maybe looking into stuff. Colloidal yeah. I make my own colloidal silver. I brew my own distilled water. Wow. Wow. I I only I only drink distilled water. Yeah.   Yeah. And,   you know, I I I think a little of what you like is good for you.   So,   you know, you shouldn't be too harsh on yourself. But, there's there's wiser choices, should we say. Anything   carbohydrate,   look on the whole   gluten   intolerance, the GI   table or whatever it's called.   Certain foods are high in,   gluten and stuff, which aren't very good. But everyone's stomach bacteria is different, so you have to find out what works for you.  

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Yeah. It's a journey. And I think the problem is we want instant satisfaction, don't we? We get a headache. We pop a tablet. And I did today, and I I actually gave myself a headache from talking too much and being excited.   I'm on a high at the moment, so you might think I'm a bit quiet tonight because I'm a bit like, I'm drained from all of the talking I've been doing.   But honest to God, I'm like a on well, I feel like I'm a bit manic, actually, but I went to the toddler group, chat, chat, chat, chat, chat.   I didn't stop. I overwhelmed myself, and then I was doing with the pharmaceuticals.  



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Is this not to do with the lack of pharmaceuticals, potentially?  

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Well, it could be. Because for the last couple of months, mentally,   I feel amazing.   I am I am doing, like, the we're not weird things, but, like, I'm just cracking on. I've got energy.   I've got motivation.   So I've been taking all of these pharmaceuticals   for, like   years, I've been taking the temp the stomach ones, and I stopped taking the the mini pill   full of all these hormones and stuff, telling my body that I was pregnant all the time.   And I'm just one more I need to fix after Christmas, but, yeah, I think it is all to do with that. And I was the first person to pop a pill if ever there's a problem, but my head was banging this morning. And,   a lady had a couple of neurofen, and I thought, oh. But, you know Oh, boy. When you're in pain well, I was like, you're quite rich, aren't you? Because we just have, like why? Exactly. That's why I don't take them all anymore. And I probably haven't helped over the years because if I get a headache, I'll just pop pills, but I don't anymore. But that was a bad headache this morning, and, yeah, I had to. But, usually, no.  



[00:38:29] Unknown:

Anyway, I overwhelmed myself. It's interesting because you we can link that to what we were saying before, how people's perceptions and how people are,   quick quick to jump on to other you know, and how people are different now. And,   if if people have have   not only undergone   this sort of, like, psychological   operation   over the last few years,   oh, what was the what was the one I meant to say about last week? I forgot all last time, and I forgot.   It's the,   I'll have to I'll have to put that on on hold. I forgot what I was gonna say. I'll try. Yeah.   But, but if people are taking lots of medication,   which obviously benefits the whole pharmaceutical industry. And if you look at the history of that,   you'll know it's the usual suspects. But,   if people are on pills, and and I know from when my gut was bad,   that that completely changed my personality. It completely changes because of the the way it works in your vagus nerve.  

So,   yeah.  

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How does it work on your vagus nerve? And please give for a brief synopsis for the listening audience. What is the vagus nerve? Right. The vagus nerve is the main nerve that runs,  

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oh, hang on a minute. You've you've put me on the spot now.   Yeah. It's it's it's all to do with the mind and, gut connection anyway. So your brain gut brain and gut and brain connection. You've got more more nerve endings in your stomach than you have in your in your brain, for instance.   So Well, they say your stomach is your second brain. They've got butterflies in your stomach. Yeah. They've got gut feeling and all this stuff. Yeah. So it's instinct.   Yeah. Yeah. The gut your gut is actually considered the outside of your body. So,   because   if you open your mouth, it's exposed to the outside all the way right the way through.  

So, yeah, this is why we've got, you know, the hydrochloric acid in your gut, which which is supposed to get rid of all the germs and things.  

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Bad bacteria, which there are very few of compared to good bacteria. It's a it is a massive thing now because all of these groups that I'm in, we had a big hoo hoo on there because I said about coming off all of these prescribed drugs. And the admin came in and kind of said, can I just make a note that we are not here to   tell anybody to get off their medication? And somebody piped off quite rightly and said, we're all here to help each other. And, surely, seeking any treatment   is good   just because we're not relying on, like, medical side of it. You know?   But there's so many people on these groups, and it just goes to show that there's so many people out there now for every little aspect   wanting to do it their way and wanting to learn.  



[00:41:16] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of if if there's an emergency, the first person I'd the person I'd want there in front of me is a doctor.   So I'm not against,   the medical profession at all.   But I think it's something that there there's a I've I've I've, you know,   disagreements with the dentist. I ended up leaving. 1 of them lied to me about putting,   fluoride, sodium fluoride in my mouth.   And,   I questioned her on it, and she's like, well, I sort of said to her, no, I told you I didn't I wouldn't have that. Why why and then she   finished off giving me some toothpaste with sodium fluoride in it. I was like, are you mental?  

I I just don't understand where so, and then I had a, yeah, I had a conversation.   My dentist couldn't tell me the difference between calcium fluoride and sodium fluoride, and he'd just done a dissertation on it. And he said that the the benefits far outweighed the, the negatives,   and he couldn't even tell me the difference between a naturally occurring one and one which is a byproduct of of an industrial basically industrial waste that they put into yeah. It's it's now coming out anyway. It's interesting coming out because of, RFK.   Oh, shit. Oh, yes. Don't get me started on him. Don't get me started on him. Come out. So oh, by the way, the vagus nerve is, I I I just couldn't explain it at the time when you put me totally on the spot. It's parasympathetic   nervous system. So it controls,   controls involuntary,   body functions. So it's yeah. It's to do with the vagus nerve system.  



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Oh. Yeah. It's vitally important. Yeah. Vitally.  

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Yeah. So why is,   mister   who we've just said? I can't even remember who we just said. You just said RFK.  

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RFK. Yeah. Sorry. Oh, that's a funny article. Oh, man. Okay. So RFK. Regard for why I laughed at RFK.   Right? So Yeah. RFK has been he's been fighting the fight, hasn't he, for the against the COVID jabs. And and and we he can't have we can have killed children jabbed. And all this nonsense. Right?   Yeah?   Yeah.   And so, you know, he's been set up. He's been set up for the place that he's got. He's been groomed for the place that he's got in the Trump administration, in my opinion.   You know? Because Yeah. Your public opinion has been groomed   in that respect.  

You know, not being funny,   the guy had his own father and his uncle shot by by   persons supposedly   unknown. He knows which side his bread's buttered.   You know? So all these people that have been shouting about RFK, and I've I've been saying   pretty much   since the start of it all, nah. He's a wrong one.   And who's he working for now?  

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Yeah. There's something up there, isn't there? God just asked me. You know, it's it's it's called,  

[00:44:06] Unknown:

again, it's called just, you know, setting the public up for a fall. That's really what it is. You know, herding people into the places where we want them to be.  

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You know, you're supposed to think they're incompetent. You're supposed to think that. Interesting. I've just I've just tried to find that that thing I looked at last week.   And I've just come out of an msn.com   thing that says anti fluoride activist RFK Jet Junior founded a company that sold fluoridated water.   I'm yet to I'm yet to read that though, but I always read these things with a bit of pinch of salt. You never let me know, use it coming from, erase it, and the rest of it. Well, I mean, not let's look. Let's not forget where,  

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you know, JFK's father   made a lot of his money out of bootlegging, as far as I'm aware. And also, so he made a lot of money out of the prohibition, and he also made a lot of money out of cotton.   Who picked the cotton?   So,   you know, let's not forget where these people have actually come from. And when they step outside where they're supposed to be, when they when they get too big for their boots, they're put in their place rather like Saddam Hussein was and, you know,   Hitler.   Yeah.   Absolutely.  

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Yeah. God forbid you try and step outside of their system.  

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Yeah. But Monetarily.   Monetarily.   This needs to, meet Joe because   we Joe's very much involved, obviously, in the Farmers Movement Cornwall,   and   they're getting the fishermen on board now.   And I think it's just getting exciting. If you've   seen the pictures today of all the tractor rallies and stuff, god knows why they couldn't put it put it out of the bag a couple of weeks ago in London, but, hey, they did it. But I think it's getting exciting because everyone's like, right. We're   finding our own market. We're   finding our   own way. We're almost building another system now.  



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Yeah.  

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It's the start of it. That's what needs to be done. Ultimately, you can't just have, like, complete anarchy and just chaos because,   as we know, order out of chaos is exactly what they want so they can bring about   their new world order. But,   there needs to be a new system set up that so you can just go right switch off, turn our backs on that now. We don't you need I'd I've never I've never I don't the concept of having a king has never even occurred to me. I I it's just madness,   and a and a prime minister, someone who who what? Who who is anyway, don't get the style.   Yeah. It is  

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It's fine if they're acting in the best you know, if it's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If they're acting if they're doing the job that they've been,   put in to do, and they're acting on behalf of the people that put them there, but they're not. They're acting on behalf of non government organizations   and and the WEF.   You know, that's I I loved Farmer Pete's speech in Truro when he said, all those people up in Westminster. He said, no. I haven't forgotten my false teeth.   Yeah. W, E, F, Minster. There you go. Yeah. Absolutely brilliant. And, you know, I I speak to people who are,   you know or I speak to all sorts of people. I do. I speak to all sorts of people.  

Some of them, you   know, have been in government. Some of them,   have been quite high up in the military, and all of them agree that, for instance, the civil you know, the governments might change. Right? But none of the civil servants do.   None of them. Whitehall does not change. Whitehall does not change. So all the civil servants are the same. So how can any government coming in and taking over from another government turn around and say, well, we didn't know it was in such bad shape, and we've got to do that all the civil servants are the same. And all of these people are apolitical when it goes to when it comes to lunchtime and drinking in the bloody pub. Yeah. I had a I had a conversation All these politicians. Years ago with one of,  

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Steve Double's   Oh, dear. Assistants up in I I phoned up   his local office, whatever I wanna speak. Now he's in Westminster. I was like, okay. Can I have the phone number for that then, please?   So I got through to oh, he's not here right now, but what is it you're calling about? And so I spoke to one of his assistants, and I was like, look. At the time I worked at the primary school, I was like, I work in a primary school, and I see better behavior in the in the in the school in the playground   than I do when you know, you do you lot don't do yourselves much benefit,   at much, much, much good because   what's it? What's the one,   where they in the house of commons? Prime minister's question time and all that noise. Exactly question. Yeah. Yeah. And,   I said, oh, just all this jeering and everything. It's just, it's so childish. And Robert, it like and he goes, oh, it's all all an act. He said, it's all it's all for show. He said, we're all we're all, like, in the not in the pub, but he said, we're all we're all,   friends and everything afterwards. And I went, yeah. I'm sure you are.  



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That's very true. Yeah. It it it it's so true.  

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Yeah.   He's pretty much just admitted it to me, one of his assistants. I was like, you know People that's the thing, though. People don't people go, oh, now Starmer's in. Handsome. Oh. Oh.  

[00:49:06] Unknown:

Oh. Now Trump's in. Or oh, dear. Now Trump's in. Oh, this nasty Putin. Blah blah. Yep. Which young leader is it next? Yeah. Yeah. Which which young World Economic Forum leader is it next? You know?   Trudeau, Justin   Jesse Trumbull,   you know, whatever.  

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There needs to be some sort of   these people that put themselves in these positions or or supposedly   elected. I've always said it's selected as opposed to elected. But, I   You I I What what's going on with people? Why why why are we letting them do it? I don't   Yeah. I guess for the same reason I am. Like, what what are we supposed to do? What other than turn our back on. I love what Eric Eric was saying on on Paul's show.   Humor is so important. And that that's really hit home with me because they don't understand it. Psychopaths do not understand humor.   So,   yeah.  



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Yeah. Do you know what? It it brings me back to the kind of the beginning of the show. And I and I I know I rabbit on about it a lot, but one of the biggest erosive forces in   in society and local community   is the babysitter,   the rectangle babysitter that everyone keeps in their back pocket.   Mhmm. You are right. I That's one of that is one of the biggest corrosions of mass destruction.   Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Everyone's linked into the matrix. They don't care what's going on next door.  

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I always thought I would be different, but I've never had to, like, endure this with my elder 2. And screen time, they're so clever and addicted. You know, Piren's now mastered that when he uses his screen time, he can just pop over to the guest account   on his laptop.   So even though you're trying your damnedest to keep it down, they always find a way.  

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And, Children always you know, children will always be smarter than you because what happens? You pull your best tricks out of the bag to confuse them, and they bloody learn from it. That's what happens. Adapt and overcome.  

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Yeah.  

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That's what they do.  

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Thank goodness.   That means we've got a future generation of folks that might be following in in ours and others footsteps. Great tips. I like to.  

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It is frustrating   because it's not just the game inside of things. It's just the YouTube, and I wouldn't mind. But there are lots of these things that are just idiots doing stuff, and I do appreciate that   generation. That's what they do. They all wanna be YouTubers.   But I I bet I'm not being funny, but I bet your dad says, but, mom, you do it on the radio all the time. And he's right. And that's what I mean. I said to Darren the other day. How can I tell him off when I'm sat here scrolling on my phone?   But it's just the length of it to get him to unwind for the day, and we've got a new thing that Darren's gonna connect that will just   switch off any of his devices at half past 8. There'd be no access to the Internet for you, Piran.  

And fingers crossed that will work until he figure something out.  

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He will. Yeah. And you know what? If he does if he does, alright,   wrap his knuckles, but really, it deserves a pat on the back because that's ingenuity,   and it's him, you know, it's him problem solving. So if he does, don't be too hard on him. It's it's I won't. I have now I think, you know, I don't blame them.  

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If you said to me now, like, at 9 o'clock, right, no more YouTube, no more scrolling,   you just watch some crap on the TV, I'd be most upset because that's what I do. And that's what they've learned to do rather than watch the little family programmes that we all used to be sat around together watching.   You know? They're watching YouTube and other stuff. I mean, at the end of the day, he's only 11,   but, I say to him, you're living in a make make believe world, Perrin, because he always wants money to buy Robux. This and then you buy clothing in the game and stuff. You know? I'm like, but it's not real.   I'd rather give you real money to buy real clothes. You know? But  

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Yeah. But that you know, it's, yeah, it's,   that's that's, the the construct that the the kids are growing up in. And,   it's I suppose in in some way, it's it's very easy to say, oh, it's vitally important to get them out and take them for walks and stuff. But, you know, to be able to motivate them to do that is virtually   impossible.   Look at how shiny and distracting it is.   It really is. There's there's far more I'm not being funny. It's far more interesting than anything you or I can put in front of them because they can go and surf and look at whatever they want. Yeah. I I I just join them and and walk around and, like,  

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join in their world. And, like, if you want if you want your kids to, like like, get off something, like, basically just just get into it yourself, like, and stuff.   This isn't cool anymore.  

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Yes. Dad likes it. I follow him round on Roblox going, yeah. Should we go and play this now?  

[00:53:53] Unknown:

I've tried to join him because it's the only way   I can spend any time with him, you know, doing his things that he likes. And,   it's it's very frustrating.   Anyway, I don't know what you guys are doing for the next hour, but mister English has just messaged saying, do we wanna go for another hour?   Are you busy? Can do if you like. He's he's, like, in the show, and he's he would like to join us. Where do I go? Cool. Is that right, Vijay? That would be lovely. That'd be cool. That'd be lovely. Yeah. That's so cool. Yeah. Why not? Absolutely.  

[00:54:23] Unknown:

Wow. This is exciting. I'm gonna have to send someone a message.   And I will say,   mister Colin, if you are listening, I'm sorry. I'm gonna have to postpone for a little bit, because the show is gonna go on for another hour, apparently.  

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Right. I shall just add mister send the appropriate message. To English   to the show.   Right. If you're listening, mister English, it's,   well, I think I'm phoning you. Not on this call. Oh, blimey.   Blimey. How do I do this?  

[00:54:54] Unknown:

It's Joe's group, and we have to do do I do I need to do a disclaimer for my little bit of, medical   this blinds me.   I'm   not a doctor. No. Please don't take anything seriously. You're just a Karen. Okay? That's what they do. You're very reserved. Yeah.  

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Anyway, mister English, is he there? Are you there, Paul? It says you're there.  

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Yes.  

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Good evening. Hello.  

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Good evening, mister English. It's lovely to hear your dulcet tones, Yeah. Let me get to the nice to be here with all you all you quaint, jolly, lovely English types. Isn't it marvelous? It is marvelous. I'm still reeling from the fact that all the farmers are Nazis. I really quite like that. I want to actually,   I want Nazi farmers, please. Come on, lads.  

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On that note Paul, on that note, really interesting you say that. So back in the back where during if you if anyone wants to go and look at the 5th   wars, when the Church of England decided that they would change how they took,   their tithe from local farmers, and it had it couldn't be done in produce, and it had to be done   in a monetary value.   Police.  

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I think fascist farming is the way to go.  

[00:56:13] Unknown:

Let's make them cry even more. I think it's making them weak. Go by.   Yeah. Jory and Jenks is anything to go by. I definitely think, you know, maybe we should, you know, think about some sort of,   you know,   natural way of, putting,   putting nutrients back in the ground instead of using all these,  

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other organic I thought you were gonna say a natural way of putting communists back in the ground, actually, which I would go for.  

[00:56:41] Unknown:

That would be good.  

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I also think it's very difficult to not want to follow the teachings of somebody called Jurian, isn't it? I mean, you just go Absolutely. That's the kind of name I can get into. Jurian. I mean, his parents obviously had a cracking sense of humor. No. I really like it. JJ.   Old JJ himself. So, yeah, come on. Bring it on. Marvelous.  

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Oh, the concept of using commies as fertilizer.  

[00:57:07] Unknown:

Yes. It's it's one it's possibly one saving grace that they may have. Of course, we didn't say anything like that. We love them all dearly like we love the whole of humanity.   But,   but yes.  

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Oh, we're in trouble now. I I think it just me I just think he meant old fermented ones. I don't think he meant new ones   that are very different.  

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Can I just jump in there and just say for those that have just popped on or what have you, we've got mister Paul English that has joined   us? Paul English from p paulenglishlife.com,   and he runs   his show on Thursdays   at   8 PM. And it's brilliant. Oh, you're so nice, Shelley. That's lovely. Paul is the producer of Radio Soapbox. So yeah. No. You deserve a plug. You deserve a bloody good plug.  

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Not that you Well, I need one for the bath, actually. I do. I actually really do need one for the bath because it's,   yeah. I need I I actually need 2 new plugs now. Oh, Christmas Eve, isn't it? You've given me ideas.   I can't wait. Dad, I've got your plug. Oh, you shouldn't have.  

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Make sure you get make sure you get the right size, Shelley. Otherwise, it it'll either not fit or or not fit. Oh, you'll have to send me a maintenance pool.  

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Yeah. I knew that was coming. By the way, Shelley, like I said in the little note, the pathway is clear. You can yak way beyond the top of the hour if you want to, although maybe these good people have all got some communists to go and throttle. I don't know. He's got 8:15, but,  

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I've got a deal with Tom, posse, now you say about it.  

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Yeah. I think we're alright to go. I'm just letting you know. Yeah. Everybody said they're all up for 9 o'clock.   So if anybody wants to run and get a drink, do a seat.  

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What was that? I I will I will disappear in a second, go and grab a drink, but I will be back. And then when you come back Oh, it's like that. It's one of these shows, is it? Everybody goes off and gets some sort of You just rub the rest of the show. Cool. Drink.   Well, I've I've been I've been I've been I've been here for the last hour. I haven't had nobody so much as offered me a a cup of tea. A beverage? No. A beverage.   That means can we do that?  

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I am sipping wine, obviously,   but I will have to go and get a refill in a minute.   Oh, I don't know why I do that guilty laugh after. But, yes.  

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So everyone's quiet. It it didn't sound very guilty to me, to be fair.  

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Well, I used to always say I'm not having a glass until I've done the radio show. And the last couple of weeks, the concept of dry January coming, and I am gonna do it. I'm, like, drinking earlier just to get my quote in.   It   just means I'm ready for bed a little bit earlier. So, yeah.  

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Anyway Well, the sound of it, at the end of this next hour, it could be quite interesting.  

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Could go downhill from here. It could no. No. I've gotta be professional on the radio.   No.  

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On a on a on a side note, it was interesting what you were saying earlier about the health aspects,   mister Kurt.   And, you know, just the fact that you only drink distilled water   and not tap water.   Yeah. For about 4 years now. So do you do you use distilled water with your tea as well?  

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Cool. I do. Yeah. It it makes your tea taste really nice. I I get to the point where I'm around a customer's house, and I cannot drink their tea. Some people are better than others. Like, some people have got,   yeah. Yeah. Just just, don't use the hot tap, especially if you've got a, a tank.   So a hot water tank because it makes it taste really horrible. But, yeah, my point is puree. There's a tip for your there's a tip for your Sunday show, Shelley. The women's hour.   Yeah. Well, it it there is I've I've I haven't looked into the science too much and but, basically,   there was one thing I heard. So,   yeah, the it's because your your body is essentially a filter. So when you're drinking water, it it absorbs into your body and absorbs deeper into your cells, which makes the whole electro   electrical,   conductivity   thing work a lot better apparently. But,   yeah, I don't know. I feel good for it. So and it tastes a lot nicer.  

I got I I just I used to go to sleep with a a pint of water by the bed, and I'd wake up in the morning, have a sip of it, and just   spit it back out because it just tasted the glory of the glory   that settles in it or does something. So and, you can taste it. It's horrible. So,   yeah, started looking into water filters, and fortunately, I've got some quite clever friends, and they started buying for water filters and, water distillers, and I bought one.   Yeah. And,  

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never looked at that. How long does the process take until you can get, like, you know, a liter of water? It's about 4 hours for 4 liters, but,  

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but it's it works out actually cheaper than buying bottled water. So, and you can just use your tap water. But if you saw what was left, and I'm sure if Paul drinks, distilled water,   if he makes his own, do you make your own, Paul?  

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Yeah. I do. I know what you mean about the sediments, the the remnant that's left in the main in the main reservoir. Yeah. It's quite a thing. It's unbelievable.  

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I saved it up, and after about a month,   so I put, what, 4 liters, probably put it on every couple of days. It works as a heater as well. If you have it in a small room,   it doubles up as a heater because it's essentially just a kettle   boiling the water in a in a sealed   container, and then there's a fan on top, which cools it down.   It distillation, just think of rainwater, except rainwater.   I wouldn't advise to drink because it the way that rainwater is formed is it, the water,   molecules   bond to a dirt particle or a particle in the air? So when it drops, it's actually got dirt in it. So but, but, yeah, it's the same same process, essentially, evaporation and condensation. So,   but yeah.  



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I back everything that you've just said.   I've I've worked for that man. Yeah. I think it's number 1 at the top of the health list. It's underwater.  

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Loads of people say to me about these, you know, reverse osmosis machines. You the amount of money you need to spend on filters when all you need to spend on that is a bit of citric acid to clean it every now and again.   So you just boil it with the top off with a bit of citric acid in it, and you get rid of all the,   the inorganic minerals that can that are in the water as well as the chlorine and all the crap that's in 100 year old pipes and all the rest of it. But,   all of this is going into your body, and people will say it just goes straight through, but I don't you know?   Yeah.  



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Do you run it off of mains?  

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Do you like is it mains powered? Or what happens if there's a power cut? What happens if you don't have any power, though? Oh, actually, that's funny because I was thinking about this earlier, and I was thinking, how would I because I remember doing science at school and then doing water distillation. And you can make your own if really, couldn't you? You'd you'd have to have the right apparatus, but  

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you you You can buy a still.  

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Yeah.  

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You buy a still. In fact, I know someone who's got both, and they bought a still.   They bought a still made out of copper. They're in the States. Right? So they you can I think stills are probably more easy to   to pick up there than here? But it it runs off a naked flame. You just stick a fire underneath it, boil the water, and you've just got that's it. You can take the water out of the lake, right, put it in the thing,   and you get a I mean, it's the purest water you can drink. I know everybody says this, that, and the other. And maybe they're really good, but   I wouldn't even bother with it. You just everybody should have one. Because since I've been drinking it, which is about 4 years too,   amazing, isn't it? Isn't that a coincidence? I don't get a toothache anymore  

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No. Yes. I am. At all.  

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Really? I've got I've got an abscess that kills me every now and again when it flares up, but that's nothing to do with the water. Overall, the water it's just the best. It's just the best water you can drink. And if you've seen those experiments they do on YouTube where they get bottled and all the other filters and they put them on in jars and they stick a couple of electrodes in, every other type of water goes black   except distilled water.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. Interesting.   When I used to live in the States, I used to go to Yosemite quite a bit and just drink   straight from some of the rivers like the pure crystal clear water,   and it tasted   like nothing on Earth. It it sounds crazy.   It tasted like water should taste.   And I'll never I'll never forget that taste.  

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That's interesting. Do you know where the whole thing to do with adding,   sodium?   Okay. I'll I'll just say fluoride.   Most people just know it as fluoride. So the whole thing to do with adding fluoride to water   was because   there were certain areas where they found there was low instance of,   tooth decay, and they they looked in the the water supply where they were drinking. They said, oh, there's there's lots of fluoride in it. So they started adding sodium fluoride,   long story short, to the water supply, but they were adding sodium fluoride when it was calcium fluoride that was in the natural water supply, and there's a difference. So   calcium fluoride is a natural mineral, and sodium fluoride is a byproduct of,   is it aluminum or for is it just something like that? But it's it's Aluminium. It's a it's a byproduct of aluminum production. Yeah. But they also found They tried to sell it as a as a rat poison or something for some sort of pest control. Yeah. I like the one where they say that the Nazis were putting it in the concentration camp water to to control the prisoners. Nothing more absurd than that. But,   it is in it is in interestingly. I think they put sodium fluoride in, Prozac or something like that. They put it in one of the mind altering  

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Does it not,   calcify your pineal gland? I have heard that.  

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Supposedly. Yeah. Yeah.   There is actually science to say that fluoride does actually accumulate calcium in the body. So in the boat, takes blood yeah.   I'll I I don't quote me on it. I'll have to read up on it again, but,   yeah, it's not a good thing. Put it that way. So,  

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no. Yeah. Pretty bad.  

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Yeah. A place like Birmingham, I think they still floridate   there.  

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I was gonna say when you stored up all the, deposits from your distilling water project I did. I did. Tested. What what did you actually do with it afterwards?   I my experience would have would have been to put it on a plant that I didn't like to see what it did, I suppose. Well, whatever it is, it's not gonna be particularly good because we're supposed to get our   minerals from,  

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in in sorry. Organic minerals from   from food, vegetables, but,   yeah, we we,   it's another thing about farm. I'd love to speak to some farmers because,   about about because they they obviously put   fertilizers   in back in the soil. I've walked across some fields where,   before in the summer that have been growing nothing but corn. And   when those fields when the when the soil dries out,   the the soil looks absolutely dead. And Yeah. Of course, they come and plow it, and it the dust comes off, and all the birds come down and start picking out what's little life is left in the soil. And   modern farming, monoculture farming is is  

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disastrous. It really is. That's what Jerry and Jenks wrote a treatise on   from the ground up. You can look it up. It's, it's called from the ground up. The only reason I know about it actually is that Candor did, AK Chesterton Trust. Candor did, an article   on it. A really good article on Jorian Jameson. He I I I'm pretty sure he wrote a treatise on it called from ground up.   And it was, you know  

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Thanks, Leron. Sorry. Farmers are under a lot of pressure at the moment. So I don't wanna make things harder for them, but but, I don't, you know, criticizing them.   But,   Yeah. There's there's there's a better way. There's all all every single one of our systems. It's like we have to look at it and and   pull it apart.   I I realize there's a lot of problems with sort of compartmentalizing   things.  

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Do you do you not think, Joe, that We need to pull it apart and rebuild it all. Sorry. No. No. Not at all. I'm sorry to jump in. I just didn't wanna lose my place and my question before I lost it.   I mean, Joe, you've got a lot to do with this speaking with farmers and stuff. What what are their, like, minds like regarding using fertilizer   and organic stuff? Because hasn't land got to be, like, fertilizer free for 5 years to be classed as organic?  

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Is that a question to me? Is that organic?  

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Yeah.  

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I my honest answer to that is I'm not quite sure.   I know it's I know it's several years, but time frame, I'm not quite sure.   In terms of what do they think about using fertilizers,   with all due respect,   farmers   are people that are quite   set in their ways. Mhmm. But that's not to say that the time that we're moving through now,   you know, quite a few of them are   beginning to come out of that and realize, as Al's just said,   you know, there is another way.   And there's quite a lot of them around that do a no dig sort of farming   project for one of the best words.  

But I think once you're caught sort of,   especially within the farming industry,   once you're caught on that hamster wheel,   it's really difficult to get off, and that's where education   comes in. That's where   support from the public comes in.   You know, sort of buying direct   from that farmer   so   that financial   revenue   is direct into their pocket. Then That would then having to pay fees out to the government to then go and buy some, you know, horrendous   fertilizer. They can   diversify   into something else.  

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That's that's something that would be really, really handy,   particularly   for us down here in Cornwall, but probably for every every county in the UK and and and in Europe, I guess.   But it would be really handy to have a local list of farmers that were prepared to sell what you know, their produce to the public. Isn't that what the was it the bowler hat farmer?   Yes. That's what I've been doing. I don't have access to I signed up to it. Facebook or anything like that, but it would be really if I had a handful if I I'm not being frank. Okay. If I had, like, a a wodge of pamphlets   with that with those names and numbers on, I would literally, for nothing while I'm walking the dog, just post them through people. Well, Jo, what is your woman?  



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Go, Jo. Okay. So we we do actually have a directory   with the southwest   sort of people that we're talking about.   I think there's, like, well over   230,   maybe 235.   We have a directory   that these are the people that you need to start buying from.   And as you said, down here in the southwest in Cornwall,   it's particularly   easy to do.  

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I Well, we're only blooming 15 miles wide for goodness sake. Yeah. I appreciate,  

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you know, larger counties. It's slightly different. It's, you know, there there's more logistical   nightmares to come across.   But down here,   it it's okay.   So, yeah, we we do have that list. We do have a directory   that people can just go.  

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I want one. I want an access access to it that isn't on Facebook preferably because I don't do social media. Like me to print it off for you,  

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and then I'll give it to Shelley, and you can do with it what you will. Is it on a is it on their website,   Jay? It's on the website. You I think it's we've got it on our pinned posts as well,   on Facebook.   Yeah. But it's so it's definitely on the website.  

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So it's Farmer's Community. I I list I list who was it on your show, Paul? I can't remember, but I listened to the show with the bowl of fat   bowl of fat. Bowl of hat farmer. I spoke to him last Wednesday. Fat Farmer. Yeah.   And and,   so whose show was it? Sorry. I think it was mine. It was last Wednesday, but he might have known for the show as well. I don't know. Yeah. And I've I've I've signed up to it, and I on the night, I was like, yeah. This is brilliant. Amazing. And then, of course, you get back into the throes of life and and   everything, work and kids and all the rest of it, and I've forgotten what the, what the   website,   address is. It's no doubt saved on my phone, but, I think   Hub. That's it. Food finder. Food  

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finder's Hub. Yeah. Mark is a no dig farmer. He has a totally different system   strokes. Yeah. Well, if you think in terms   of   Nikola Tesla   and how advanced he was in terms   of electricity   and   electrodes.   That's that's where Mark is with his farm in at the moment. Yeah.   And   it is   mind blowing.   Mind blowing   how quick   the crops are growing.  

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Is this similar to with the the the the, I saw this thing ages ago. Copper root.  

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Yeah. It's electric vegetables. Electro vegetables. Yes. Sounds sounds like an a seventies progressive rock band, doesn't it? You know you know I go see them. They sound good to me already. Free courgette with every performance can be in.  

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You've never been see the copper rods.   The copper rods. Brilliant. I'm off to see the copper rods. I'll see you band that are on after. Enjoy the electric vegetables.  

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For the listeners,   Paul, would you like to   tell us a little bit about this electrical method? Because I think you know a bit, don't you?  

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Yeah. I don't know the precise things, but, yeah,   Just rough things. Farmer through a oh,   a oh, I can be quite rough.   Yeah. He invited some Italian electric farmers over.   Or or do are there Italian electric farmers? They came over to his farm about 3 or 4 weeks ago, I think it was,   early October, some or maybe that's longer than that. I don't know. But within recent living memory, they were here this year,   a couple of months back.   And,   I think it's quite a seasoned and mature sort of   path out in certain parts of Europe, Austria,   Italy,   places like that.  

It's to do with I mean, I don't know the precise things. But basically, you have a I think it's a galvanized steel aerial,   which is above ground.   Then there's a and then at some point when it's near the ground or just below it, it transitions into a copper,   line,   of copper metal. And you can lay this copper   out probably at a specific amount, of inches beneath beneath the surface. And they they've said it's very precise what you've got to do. You cut yourself, I'll stick some metal in the ground, and everything's gonna go wacky. There's definite but they know what it is. And, it means you can grow things all year round. You're not relying on sunshine at all. So they're growing sort of vegetables and things on the top of mountains in Austria when it in the winter,   when there's no sun,   and stuff like this.  

And the planets the planets just love it. So it's a bit it I it's got to be, I guess, in parallel with with,   Tesla's observations about, you know, the ether being charged with masses of energy. And this is tapping into it, and the planets just go, we love it. So what it could do as well,   is really,   lay havoc   to the annual village vegetable growing competitions because you could get these ringers coming in with their electric vegetables and bringing in marrows that are 32 feet long or something. It's all gonna get quite wacky, isn't it? But   they came over and demonstrated all this stuff, and I think it's just brilliant. And we all need to know how to do it, to use the little bit of land that we possibly have  

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so that we can all grow our stuff. You know? So I I don't I mean, that wasn't a technical thing, was it? But that that's as much as I I know, and it it is exciting. I would say that as well. It is very exciting. I definitely wanna know more about that. I mean, I need I keep I keep meaning to get to my allot I've got an allotment. I've had one for years, but other other things have sort of taken over in life, and I need to get up there and sort it out. But I had a a calendar, which was growing growing by the moon. So it was all to do with   the way that it influences the water. So you grow certain vegetables at certain times, and you pick certain vegetables at certain times. So it's all to do with following the lunar calendar.  

So you have the electric vegetable growers on one side of the, hall and the   the the the moon growing,  

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farmers at the other side of the hall. Well, you might be able to Yeah. I I think it's a dignified name. It's electro culture, isn't it, or something? It's called electro electric gas. Yeah. Yeah. That's the dignified name. But electric vegetables is just much more marketable is what you want. Mhmm. So   it's more fun, isn't it, really?  

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I Yeah. Culture culture just makes you think of yogurt   or And communists.  

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Sorry.  

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It's alright, Paul. Well, I was listening to you. Was it last night you had a bit of a spout on?   Is that the right word? You had a bit of a Is it is it Wednesday? No. It was Monday. It was up with Eric on Monday. On his hip. I yes. Did he have the did he have the other hand on a hip and and the spout on the other side? Well, I've listened. Last last week's show, you went for   totally emotional.   Oh my god. Ow. I know you were in the chat.   You you were reading out   Oh. Book. Oh, with Is it Dave Kothari sent you Kothari. All of the messages. It was lovely. Yeah. I think we were all I was like, god, Paul. Don't don't break down on the radio, but it was so emotional. So you went from that   on Wednesday and then on with Eric on Monday, and you had a right little rant. I love it.  



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What's happened to you? Yeah. Well, I think I think it swings that way. When you go into one thing, you can swing right round into there's like a fight back, isn't it? You know? So,   but yeah. No. Monday was a hoot. It was absolutely fantastic. Eric kept on wanting to go to bed. He said, I've been up really early. But the show we just kept him going and going and going. And I said, come on. You can do 3 hours. You're a puff. And,   so in the end, we did about 2 hours and 45 minutes, and it was great. But it was good. And then after the show had finished, he was on for another 40 minutes. I don't know. He must have been absolutely cream cracker   because the after show chat just went on. I said, we should have been broadcasting this too. It is great. You know? So   it was a blast. I really yeah. I got completely energized by that, of course. Didn't get to sleep till about half 1 because I'm just sort of full of beans after you sort of. Yeah.  

Well, there are things worth ranting about. I I think it's important. I do think it's important. You know? It's   it's important to let go every now and again. I like to be reserved, of course. And, hello, this is the voice of the BBC. But secretly,   in the background,   you've you've got the huge battle axe in your hand, and you're just laying waste to all these   bastards that are just chewing everything up. And I know that's pure island childish and all those other things, but I don't care. That is kinda what goes on, I think, to some degree. And,   you've gotta give vent to it every now and again. But I don't think we went over the edge unless Eric's lost his YouTube channel. So we'll find we'll find out next Monday. No. Was it? I don't think he should've. No. No. It wasn't. No. Don't think so. It's just nice nice to listen   to from a mission to just the emotional point. I'm I'm taking the plunge. Rumble and YouTube. I'm gonna Oh. I'm gonna give it a I I don't care if the channel goes. It doesn't upset me at all. I've got all other things established, but there's so many people on YouTube that if you could use it to,  

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you know, pull more people into the space as it were, then what's wrong with that? You know? And I don't think we say anything. I mean, I I must I I think I I yeah. No. I don't think anyone says anything that's that's worthy of pulling off of YouTube. But I will say this,   I have   a a great little program that I use for downloading stuff off of YouTube. I don't really use YouTube because of all the ads and all the nonsense, all the proprietary stuff that you but if someone sends me a link or if I search for something and I wanna download it, I've got this great little program which will download it, download a video and transform it into an MP 3, or it will download a video as a video. Great. Perfect. Mhmm.   That   show that you did the other day on YouTube, which was excellent, and I only caught half off. And I thought, I'll catch the rest of that while I'm at work tomorrow.  

Could I download it?   Could I download it for toffee? Absolutely not. Typical.   Could you, boogery? Well, I So I don't know whether it's I don't know whether it's, the the late settings. It was it was shaping up to be a great show. I I loved what you had to say about Churchill. I thought that was brilliant.  

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Was I complimentary?  

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Well, I just   as as far as I'm concerned Did I tell everybody how much I thought he was the great savior of this nation? Did I say that? No. You didn't. If I did, I was a betting No. I love what I love what you no. Hence hence I say, I I love what you actually had to say about Churchill. You reminded me of a few details that I forgot about. But, you know, it's   I've spent so long on this blooming subject, particularly the World War 2 aspect.   You have an encyclopedic mind sometimes, Paul, because you bring up things, and I think, crikey, yeah, I remember reading that.   His report   from Sandhurst or wherever it was, where he was training.  



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And the fact that he The predatory sodomites of the worst kind.  

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That's the That's literally that's literally verbatim. That's taken straight from it. I'll never forget that sentence. That was No. So there you go. No. Well, nor will I now, because you've reminded me of I I think maybe my mind had put it to the back, you know, because that's not something you wanna hear about anyone. But,   yeah. Just just it's no surprise. He he he was so compromised as he was, but there we go.   But, you know, I thought I couldn't but I couldn't download the show. That was the point I was making. So it's either her settings or it's been shadow banned in some way, shape, or form.   Yes. You do have to Just thought I'd let you know that before your before your your your prime time airing tomorrow.  



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You've got to expect these problems, and I'm sure by now, Paul's used to the technical   errors. I've listened in many of shows in the earlier days.   And every week, there was something technical, wasn't there? But there is with me most weeks.  

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You've got it now. Touch wood. Yeah. Well, there have been a few technical problems with your show tonight, Shelley, which I I don't know.   They have. Yeah. I don't know what's going on, but the the the feed   through Pod Home just keeps dropping and dropping and dropping and dropping and dropping. So what's actually happening right now   is that the system's listening to this rumble broadcast, but even that was not working out. There was just something wonky going on. There's always something wonky. Always. It's really annoying. My supper at the times.   It it was very annoying because I'd cooked I'd cooked me tea.  

Right? And what I was gonna do is sit down and eat it and listen to the show. I like to do that, you see. It's like I can play instead of being on this side, I like to be on the other side. It's nice. I go, oh, Shelley and Maleficas and and her guests are gonna entertain me. No.   That didn't happen.   So but,   yeah,   whatever. We can't talk about technical trouser issues all the time, although I'm pretty close to it, I guess. But,   yeah. I think I don't think he actually business is I've just gone unchecked, by the way. His video's still up from that show. Iboga, I b   b g a.  

It's not gone.   The show from Monday night with Eric is still there.  

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Oh, no. That's not the one I was talking about on,   the the the one that you get to make now?   That nice lady,   what was her? Oh, yeah. The wise women, Karen. The wise women, Karen. Yes.   I I I wanted to listen to the rest of that, and I didn't get the chance because I couldn't download it. And I don't know whether it's to do with her settings   or whether it's just been   made awkward   for that sort of thing to occur with that particular file, if you get what I mean.  

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Mhmm. Alright. Well, do you know what? We've gotta change the subject because everybody's gonna switch off their radio in a minute.  

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Why?  

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Are they? Yeah. Well, listen then to us, rabbit on about technical stuff for 10 minutes.  

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It's dull, isn't it? It is dull. It's dull. I'm conscious. This is because this is my shit. I'm off. Even I'm going. I'm bored myself to death. Yeah.  

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They won't ever come and listen to me again, will they?  

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I'm I'm thinking I wanted to ask questions, but then I'd be shouted at by Shelley for saying, stop asking your stupid questions about it.  

[01:26:16] Unknown:

Oh, no. That's a good question. I like them. They're good. I I generally I generally ask what  

[01:26:22] Unknown:

Shelley would say is   irrelevant   informative questions like, you know, tell the story about the coach trip, Shelley, that, you know, I wanted to know the ins and outs of how to work. Did the coach cost?   Who cares? You know, and and what does that do? And and and it but if you run that at the same time as you've got something else going on, how much energy does that drain? I mean, it's a similar thing with your your radio chat and, you know, all your software. My mind is going into overload. I'm like, I've gotta know everything about it, so I'm not bored. I I wanna know how it works. It is interesting, isn't it? Because I think I'm just paranoid.  

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You know? This is,   the Shelley Tasker show.   And, I've been like I said earlier, I literally tired myself out this morning talking. I exhausted myself, and I'm quite happy to listen to what everybody's saying. But I'm also just really conscious. It's like, would you we're just having a normal chat. But,  

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have   a normal chat? Saying is And they're all the best ones. Bored with the conversation.  

[01:27:31] Unknown:

No. I'm just thinking about poor listeners that I don't know. Sometimes people go on and on about technical stuff, don't they? And I'm like, just stop. Stop. I've split but I think it's probably just my frame of mind tonight. Okay? I wish you'd stop going on about all this technical stuff. Come on.  

[01:27:47] Unknown:

Let you stop. In seriousness,  

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not not not on the air now, but I would like to have a conversation with you about your whole plan for tomorrow because, yes, it does interest me. Have I just contradicted myself? Yes. I'm thinking about the listeners, not me.   Only slightly. Okay. Well, I tell you what.  

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I'll tell you what.  

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I've had a glass of wine in my defense. Alright?  

[01:28:11] Unknown:

That's no. Look. I'll tell you what.   One of the things we touched on   well, we've we've touched on the health aspect. The RFK aspect, I mean,   the RFK aspect, obviously, we're talking health. You know, obviously, Trump's new health minister and and yada yada.   I just think it's incredible that do you not find it incredible going back to this subject? I know it always goes back to this subject. But do you not find it incredible that people have   not   got tired of having the Mickey taken out of them? People have got very short memories as to what Trump did January 6th. January   6th is an infamous   an infamous   date.  

And and and then you see what he did to his own people, his own followers on that day, those years back.   And then you see someone like RFK coming in and, you know, yeah, he's gonna be the health minister. We've got some other controversial people coming in as well because Trump's renegade man, isn't he?   You know, I just, just I just get so fed up. I get a lot of emails that say about, you know, pointing towards Trump   and, you know, another knight in shining armor story and and and yada yada. And everyone's just looking for a blooming savior. And they're not looking to do anything themselves. I think that's probably, yeah, ran over. Sorry. There's an interest interesting YouTube channel called stranger than fiction,  

[01:29:39] Unknown:

and that's,   he seems to focus a lot on Trump.   So, yeah,   make of that what you will.  

[01:29:47] Unknown:

I don't get drawn into all of it. I'm I'm in a really good space at the moment, and it's like I have total faith that   I'm not gonna go without anything.   You know? The farmers are gonna pull it off, all the work they're doing and stuff. We are gonna have sources, the most important thing. And I think, like Al was saying earlier, we just have a system where we've already turned our backs. We're doing it our own way.   It doesn't I wish I could feel   I don't seem to get mad about much stuff.   You know, Joe gets really, oh, I'm so mad about this,   but I just don't like no. I'm so calm,   and I think this has actually tuned me into more of a spiritual way, to be fair, the last, well, the last 4 years when we think what was going on 4 years ago.  

All that anger, all that frustration,   passion, and everything like that. But it's made me very like, it is what it is. You know that saying? It is you can't change it.   And I just tend to be looking at more spiritual stuff and things   on YouTube,   something I do have to bring up because it does fascinate me. And now I'm not gonna be able to think of the word.   What's it called?   That theory   that something has changed over the years, but it hasn't.   God, it was on the tip of my tongue. You know what I mean? Man Mandela effect.   Yeah. I've been watching videos about that and stuff, and I'm like,   woah.  

Have you have you heard you guys heard anything about that?  

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Yeah. Looked into it a while back. It's,   people believe that, you know, the the the name comes from   Mandela because they people seem to remember that he died when he was, in prison, but he didn't or something like that.   But there's there's loads of them. If you Google Mandela Mandela effect, it comes up with,   various different things.  

[01:31:42] Unknown:

History is repeating itself. There's no there's no doubt about it. This is this is I think it goes out of the essence of the public. It's through the acquiescence. It's it's your goodwill being used against you, as we said before. And this is and people just being blindly wandering into something that they think just feels nice at the time. Just it just feels nice, man. Just   please   take away my freedoms and leave me with my creature   comforts.  

[01:32:10] Unknown:

Oh, so am I being told off because I'm not  

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I'm not, you know, angry about it or I don't really care at all. No. No. No. No. No. That's that's the no. It's it's no. Do you know what? I think it's it's probably a really good thing in actual fact that people   don't care about it and don't focus on what these idiots, these horrible people think that they're going to do to us,   and just talk amongst ourselves   instead.  

[01:32:35] Unknown:

In fact, isn't this what in many ways, what this whole exercise is all about? This is it's something I was looking at recently, and it was, it was saying wisdom is action. And to me, it's it's   it's   action that actually,   governs everything. It's it's unless, you know, you talk about it. So  

[01:32:54] Unknown:

But that's my point. I think the house, Amanda. What we're doing, like, for me now, I'm doing my shopping at the local butchers. Butchers. I'm sourcing all the healthiest foods I can do. I'm gonna grow my own vegetables.   I'm doing my bit to stay healthy, knowledge, and in the loop.   You know?   And there's a lot of people out there doing that, which makes me think we are winning.   We're gonna win this because because we've never got to this point before when you've got all those tractors out, and now, like, the fishermen are gonna join them as well.   It's like all of this had to happen to take them back to how it used to be anyway, perhaps even better than ever what it used to be. You know? I think, do you know what? In many respect, I, you know,  

[01:33:34] Unknown:

I'm I'm gonna slightly disagree with you in the fact that this hasn't happened before. It has. But this is the first time it's happened really   in a very, I'm gonna say this in a very sweeping   generalization as far as the UK cons is concerned. But it's the first time it's really happened   in a cosmopolitan,   I. E, multicultural   society, I. E, there are people pulling together and saying, hang on a minute.   You know, we gotta look after our farmers   and stuff. And whereas back in the I guess guess what I'm pointing at is that back in the day, as I said earlier about the the black shirts linking arms and stopping the police from going in debt collecting on the farmers, etcetera, etcetera.   You know, we used to have this spirit, and I'm really glad to see that this spirit is being   rekindled in many ways. As I as I said, it was a real blessing the other day to be out in the elements while the farmers were sat in their warm cabs, driving around, beeping their horns. And it was just like, I do consider that a blessing because it's like, you know, it's showing solidarity with those guy. I mean, I'm out in it all the time anyway. So but it was nice to see all those folks that weren't out in it all the time   at getting absolutely piss wet through while the farmers were in their warm calves. And it was it must have been so nice for those farmers to see   that occurring for them as well. Young couples, all that kind of thing. I know we've sort of covered it and mentioned it before, but it's just   yeah.  

That's what it's about.  

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Yeah. It's the first time in a while I've had wet pant.   I don't know about you,   Mal, because you're out in the, you're out in the  

[01:35:16] Unknown:

you're out in the I don't wear any. I don't wear any. If we're going into what I wear to bed and what I wear under my trousers. You're out in the elements is what I was gonna say pretty much, David. To point out in the elements. It's just something else to stick to.   I'm just thinking about things. Sorry.  

[01:35:32] Unknown:

When I was at work yesterday, sat down doing nothing in the laundry with all these women,   One of the older carers, she was go she was bitching about another carer, and she said, and do you know she wears no knickers?   Bloody disgusting, I call it. She said, can you imagine coming in people that you've only met a few times and telling them I don't wear any knickers?   She said, how unhygienic.   Oh, I'll tell you what. Aussies stitches. Yeah. Sorry if we had to go to the no knickers conversation. Unhygienic  

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unhygienic  

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if you don't shower and don't change your clothes, surely. Yeah. I was about to come in on that. I mean, I   I would say not wearing any underwear is probably   quite hygienic.  

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Is this my fault?   Sorry about that.   Oh, dear.  

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Anyway,   Paul, you're very quiet.  

[01:36:27] Unknown:

Where's Eric when you need him? I'm just listening.  

[01:36:30] Unknown:

I'm just listening. Yeah. Eric would think of something funny to say there, wouldn't he?  

[01:36:35] Unknown:

He he is just No. He would just into he would just introduce some toilet humor. Yeah. He is so funny. It would be, but but it would be very funny as well. Yes. It would be funny.  

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He's one of those guys who I listen to, like, Longview South Pole when I sit here on certain nights, and I just think this is just good, easy listening.   This is like having your friends in your front room.   It's lovely.   You know, I love the way Oh, I think that's what it's supposed to be like, really, isn't it? Supposed to be like that. I think it is not what it's supposed to be like. Yeah. It's something that was said actually the other night was, was,  

[01:37:07] Unknown:

about the whole cow farting thing.   Oh, yeah. There you go. I said it.   And and how it feels like we're having the piss taken out of us. And I was like, hang on. That reminds me of toilet paper thing. We're literally having the piss taken out of us. They're seeing how far they can push it with the with the pub general public and just they must be sitting there. Like, I'd like to say they were laughing, but   I I don't know whether they can do that. Thing. Has been on the cards for a long time. They've been talking about cows fighting. Yeah. They really have. Yeah. There's there's articles about them,   trying, you know, talking about,   cow flatulence and causing methane problems and all the rest of it. Probably about 10 years ago, someone put a a post up saying, look at the date on that. There's, yeah,   no more Cadbury's.  



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It's no different to certain certain historical, like, you know, numerical figures that were put out time and time again, you know, throughout history.   Mhmm.  

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It's like   yeah. Just, again, it comes down to how how how much how much,   oh, I've I've just remembered what I was, the,   oh, god. Give me 2 seconds.   Oh, dear. I was it was what I was gonna say earlier, and it literally just popped into my head and then disappeared again. It'll it'll come back to me in a minute. The, the,   it was what was done over the over the   the the pandemic bullshit. The,   give me 2 seconds. Sorry. Go on.  

[01:38:36] Unknown:

It's alright. Are you going through the male menopause, Al?  

[01:38:39] Unknown:

I experience what you're going through all the time. Thing. Is there a such thing. We don't have that That's just made up in psychology books to make men get worried about things. It doesn't happen. We're British. Come on.  

[01:38:52] Unknown:

Oh, dear. Must be lovely for you men, not having all these hormones flying around. If there's if there's any consolation, Shelley, I lose my mobile phone  

[01:39:02] Unknown:

permanently at least 3 times a day.   I I'm serious. It's just hilarious. I I'm just laughing at myself all the time. The so the three things in life that you need to make your life work are your house and car keys on one keyring, probably. Yeah. Your wallet   and your mobile phone. And I will lose the wallet on the mobile phone 2 or 3 times every day. I just I'm just nipping out, where's the wallet? I've changed trousers. I've done something. I have to go. And I end up getting hysterical. I'm laughing at myself all the time because I say to my sons, it is like live living with an idiot, isn't it? And they're going, yes. I'm going, it is.   You know what you need, don't you? Be bothered to remember. You need to be I can't be bothered to remember what I've done with these.  



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Yeah. What? You need to man that. No. No.  

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You know, put it like No. I need to be I need to become that figure of ridicule in my own home. My dad became that because he would just be blundering around doing things as we do. We're thinking about other stuff all the time, and it's actually catching with my sons now. One of them came back the other day, and he he was all excited about it, so he brought some packaging.   And he he came he'd come back with a car, and he had the car keys.   And,   he sat down for 30 seconds, did it? And then he had to go back out of the car, said, where are the keys? I went, I don't know. He couldn't find he was there in 2 hours,   and he went out. And I said, I'll have to walk, and he had to go back up to the post office or something. And, of course, I sniffed around and found them. My how I laughed. It was really good. But he will often be calling my mobile phone 2 or 3 times a day to find it in the house. The problem is It's silent. Have any sound on it because I hate it. I it's on silent. I don't want it ringing. I hate it. You know? So I go, this is gonna be a bit tricky. Anyway, if, you know, if I I'm only saying this to make you feel better. It doesn't actually help my life at all.  

So  

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yeah. It's a regular thing in my house. Don't worry. My phone's often on silent. And I spent about half an hour yesterday, and I'm like, I've just Darren said, well, you sent me a message at half past 4. I was like, I've I've been everywhere since they're in this house. He found it under the couch. I didn't even think about looking there,   but, yeah, the joys of it that I need to start taking those,   not the magical type. Lion's mane. Those mushrooms.   Lion's mane. Oh. Yeah. Because they really did help.   They really did.  

It's just another settlement. It's just another terrible month. Phone entirely.   Oh, Maleficus.   Get out of the stone ages.   Come on. How many of us here you wouldn't be here tonight if I didn't message your wife.   I know she's not your wife, your partner.   How many people   to get a hold of Maleficos, you have to message his other half.  

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No. You don't. You just you just leave me a message in the in the soapbox chat and stuff. Yeah. But you don't always have I dent message his other half.  

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I dent message Maleficos' other half. First of all, I don't know how to. And b, I'd be scared that she'd be in her pajamas. It's just a bit worrying about this. The right dressing gown.  

[01:41:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Whatever. Well, she probably if you got if you got her at the right time of day, mate, she would be here. And if if if we've not got anything I think you need to rephrase that, Malefika, because this is all getting a bit awkward. So  

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yeah. But still yeah.  

[01:42:11] Unknown:

Yeah. That she loves her pajamas, mate.   That's not a euphemism for something, is it? No. No. No. No. I wish it were.  

[01:42:20] Unknown:

I don't I don't have pajamas.  

[01:42:22] Unknown:

So come on then. We've got to ask you the question. We've asked everybody else. Oh, god. I cannot ask you that. Well, no. We haven't asked everybody else because you haven't said what you wear when you go to bed.   I'm freaking blushing.   Off the spot. Are you a birthday suit girl or no? You're all Betty birthday suit, are you? Good. I would listen to me. If I went in my birthday suit, I would be preyed upon. Okay?   And  

[01:42:51] Unknown:

a woman that needs sleep. What? You mean there's a priest in the room?  

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What's going on?  

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I'm in bloody pyjamas, head to toe, mate. No. I'm not. Well, I do wear a nightie, a long nightie. She was a Victorian. Socks, long johns, you name it. Stay away from me. No. That's wicked. Is there is there a bolster down the middle of the bed?  

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Oh my gosh. Very, very traditional.  

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Is it now?   I'll tell Dara that. Bless him. Anyway,   right to you lot.   Got about 17 minutes left.   But I like a nightie. Alright? A long nightie, a pretty nightie.   Like, Jo always says, oh, you got a lovely nightie on, and they're, like, thin strapped,  

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long They are   very  

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They're almost what's what's that series that was on where they all dress fancy?   I'm a bit old fashioned. Like, anyways, a bit vintage anyway.   But yeah. And keep your pants on. Vintage. They're very nice. Right. But that's I can I  

[01:44:02] Unknown:

can clarify? They are very nice. They are respectable.   Respectable. Because you're a respectable  

[01:44:09] Unknown:

lady. I am. I am.   Gosh. So Paul used to haven't answered the question.   You very cleverly directed that back at me.  

[01:44:18] Unknown:

I don't think I did anything of the sort. I think the conversation just took off with a life of its own, and I was left behind in a trail of dust.   What are our our boxer shorts usually in a t shirt. Okay. Right. Thank you. Is that good enough?  

[01:44:32] Unknown:

That's fine. Everybody else has said, so, yeah, thank you.   Yeah. I don't wanna be left out. Oh, no. So there we go. Yeah. There we are. Anyway, winter is coming, and we have done that sad thing of all getting matching pyjamas, actually, for a photo shoot. Dave, you. I found it.   I don't usually like to be bought into that whole thing, but Chris, Piran's with his dad for Christmas, and I thought he wanted Christmas pyjamas, and he said, can you and Darren get some as well? And I was like, oh, go on.   And we'll have a nice family photo taken,   and, yeah, we've we'll create a memory.  

So, yeah, tartan pyjamas all the way for Christmas.  

[01:45:11] Unknown:

Is it Cornish tartan?   Is  

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it Cornish tartan?  

[01:45:17] Unknown:

No. No. It's not, Maleficas.   It's from Tesco.   Now you all hate me, don't you? Oh, look at that. I'm shopping at Tesco.  

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Can I can I button? Yeah. Please do.   Sorry, Ernie, because I've tried to remember this twice tonight. I've literally  

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just  

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Did you have to write it down? For a minute searching for this, and I found it. It's, it's it it is in relation totally changing the topic again back to what we're talking about. It's called the Biderman's chart of coercion. Have you heard of this?  

[01:45:51] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's that was that was very well known about or very,   well publicized around COVID times, wasn't it? So methods of manipulation,  

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essentially, was the, you know, isolation,   monopolization of I found a really good one, which was came   from, a website to do with social work   and,   and, domestic abuse, essentially. So isolation deprives victim of social support, their ability to resist.   So that was obviously done to us. We were all isolated and then monopolization of perception,   well, there was a monopoly on on the media.  

[01:46:29] Unknown:

There there still is, by the way. Humiliation and there were no there still is.  

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Humiliation and degradation. So,   makes resistance more costly than compliance. Stand on that little stupid square over there or that those little footprints. Exhaustion.   Mhmm. Yeah.   Threats.   Yep. So, and then occasional indulgences.   You can, enjoy Christmas this year if you want. And then demonstrating   omnipotence   worldwide,   and then the forcing of trivial demands.   So developing a habit of compliance. We're basically it was a psychological operation. We all know this anyway, but it's still going on,  

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because It's been going on to the media.  

[01:47:08] Unknown:

The media. The if if you can just get everyone to turn the bloody televisions off. Like and I don't know. Like,   globalization  

[01:47:16] Unknown:

Oh, you're closer to my camp than you think. Local. Yeah.  

[01:47:21] Unknown:

Like, God, I'm Why why can't we go back to making Sundays a day of peace? Everything shuts down. Imagine what would happen if the mobile phone network was shut off for 24 hours. I suppose it's impossible now because so many emergency services rely upon it. But there would probably be lots of, literally, teenage nervous breakdowns by the middle of Sunday afternoon, I would imagine.   Literally.  

[01:47:42] Unknown:

There would. It would. It wouldn't yeah. It wouldn't They would. They would. I'm not being funny. There'd be suicides.   Mhmm. There would be suicides.   Yeah. There would. There'd be there'd be somebody throwing themself off a building because something had happened, and they couldn't get in touch with the person that meant so much and blah blah blah.   There would. There'd be that   that that's the hold it does have. And that's that's why I find it We're doomed, aren't we? We're doomed. We're doomed. We are, really.   I'm sat in front of a computer screen. Don't get me wrong. I just don't put it in my pocket when I go out. That's that's the only difference. So I'm not I'm part of the problem. I get it.  



[01:48:17] Unknown:

I forget a broadcast. This is this comes down to the broadcast. They're gonna listen to on their mobile.   The   the whole discipline, disciples, and and, like,   our culture is is just,   yeah, it's it's the globalization. The Internet's opened everything up, and it's like a tool, isn't it? It's like you can have a hammer. You can hit someone over the head with that hammer, or you can hammer a nail in with it. It's it's what you do with it, and that's the discipline, the education. And,   I used to work in a detention room. I used to call it a time out, just chill out room, and they used to send them in in the playground if these kids with   behavioral problems, whatever. Or, you know, kids lost his temper in the playground. Send them in send them in to mister Curtis. And so   they'd send them into me, and I'd be like, oh, yeah.  

Why are you in here again? I'd be like, oh, yeah. So so someone in the playground's just attempted to control you.   Yeah. Said, well, would you rather learn to control yourself or have someone else control you? And they'd sit there and go, well, it's kind of no brainer. I'd rather control myself. And I said, right. How are we gonna go about that then? So you just have have a little conversation and and just yeah. So go along that those sort of lines. But, yeah, children don't understand this. They're,   they're just it's it's children bringing up children at the moment as opposed to, being disciples.  

So yeah.   Oh, have I lost you?  

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No. No. Well, it's food for food. I was actually just contemplating I was as well. Yeah. Yeah. I was. And hoping someone would speak. Pow.   No. It is.   Yeah.   I I see lots of these young moms about. And,  

[01:50:01] Unknown:

Kids are growing up on the Internet, basically. They're growing up on the Internet. Kids are growing up on the Internet. Yeah. Kids are. And it's a totally it's a tool there. Doesn't there doesn't it doesn't have to. You don't have to like food. A little bit of what you like is good for you because it makes you feel good. It raises your endorphin levels and all the rest of it. But if you get too much of that, it becomes an addiction. So,   it's exactly the same with any stimulant stimulus.   So,   that has to be recognized. It has to be taught. That has to be there has to be self discipline   with anything. And, Jesus Christ, how many adults nowadays are basically 15 year olds in adult bodies?  

Like Yes.  

[01:50:36] Unknown:

And I recognized that with people that I was hanging around with. Well, I I put it all down to those blasted video game players. I mean, what's all that nonsense about? All that   bing, bang, bash, and all that. It's all that twaddle. It's complete nonsense, isn't it, really? But it I mean, the thing there are obviously certain advantages to the technologies just like there have been with previous technologies, and there are certain disadvantages.   And,   you're right about the young being raised on the whole thing. And one of the things that's interesting is just on a on a a technical level, but it actually directly impinges on our biology,   is the use of,   blue light as the back screen methodology on all of the phones.  

Yeah. You can.   You know, there's been this recent interview with this guy, doctor Jack Cruz, which I've banged on about recently over the past couple of months on my show because it's an amazing interview. It's 4 and a quarter hours. It's unbelievable.   One of the best things I've ever heard. How about that? And I've heard a lot. It's really that good. Doctor Jack Crews. Yeah. Yeah. It's absolutely out Can you give that? Absolutely outstanding. And you   doctor Jack Kruse,   k r u s e. You'll find it somewhere on YouTube. He's being interviewed by somebody called Danny something or other, but it's 4 and a quarter hours. That's the one that you're looking for.   And,   he's a brain surgeon and a heart surgeon. Open heart surgery. Right? This is a very bright   man. And, when he starts talking about blue lights, absolutely fascinating.  

Because,   it literally gives you a dopamine hit, and it's literally making the devices addictive.   Literally.   Not on what what you're not even the information. Nothing to do with that. It's just like, oh, blue light.   This is one of the Danny Jones podcast, Exiled Brain Story. I think it is. Yeah. Danny Jones. I think it was. It was Dan. Yeah. I couldn't remember. Brilliant. Yeah. That's him. That into my,   tabs. So yeah. Yeah. I I had to break it down and listen to it in, like, 40 minute chunks because there's enough every 40 minutes to keep you going for a day, really, and it's very, very and he's he's absolutely rich with information.   But there's this fascinating line that he goes into to do with Las Vegas,   atomic bombs,   Mo Dalitz, and the arrival of the casinos.  

And you go, what?   So Mo Dalitz was an Israeli   agent. Oh, quell surprise.   And,   decided to,   he wanted to be near the nuclear testing facility because they wanted to steal the nuclear blah blah blah out in the desert there, wherever it is, you know, in Vegas. So decides to build a casino there as a cover for it. I'm serious. This is what it's all about. Whilst they're out there, because they're explain experiments with all this light stuff, he finds out, as Mo Dallas,   that blue light has this incredible effect on people. So he backlights all the slot machines in Vegas with blue light,   And it makes people sit there for days and shovel money in. They're just completely hypnotized and can't stop. Then he takes all the clocks out, then he covers all the windows up so you've got complete no access to actual   the the beams of the sun, which are the the most important things in our lives. Cruise goes into this in a fantastic   way. And that's the connection. That's why all this blue light stuff because this technology could have had an orange backlight as a base for it, but they chose blue   to make you stupid.  

And it works.   It works.  

[01:53:48] Unknown:

Wow. Wasn't it that old TV   used to flicker at 50 or 60 hertz or something, and that had a it sent you into   a hypnotic state as well or  

[01:53:58] Unknown:

I'll bet. Yeah. Some I mean, I don't know all of these things. I need to look into this. So   Yeah. So I've got I've got my red glasses on right now. You'll see him in the interview. Right? He's wearing these orange red glasses, and I have them on.   I've just taken them off, and I'm putting them back on again. You might hear me shuffling around,   to look at the screen. And it turned you know, sometimes on a computer late at night, it says we'll go to an orange background so that you're nice and sleepy. Well, it works. I'm sleeping better since I started using them. The only drawback is it's not as well lit a room as I would like, and sometimes my fat, pudgy fingers keep hitting the g key instead of the h key and things like this on the keyboard. That's the main drawback. I'm going, oh god. I've got even worse at this. So It's interesting.  

[01:54:42] Unknown:

Sorry. Yeah.   I I No. I finished it. Interrupt.   Over over over the last weekend because of storm, I forget what it's called. Dharma or something. Was it? Storm It's Storm Drafty.   Storm drafty. Storm drafty.   Who who make who yeah. Who who makes these names up?   So,   Yeah. Shelley. There's there's been been lots   of been lots of, it's probably probably Eric, actually.  

[01:55:07] Unknown:

Yeah. Eric makes it up. Drafty drafty. Sport. They come from the Fockem Hall weather bureau. That's what it is.  

[01:55:13] Unknown:

So,   there's been lots of power cuts, and and   you find that when you get the candles lit, it's just like, oh, actually, I could get used to this. It's quite nice. Lush, cozy.  

[01:55:23] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. No. Candles are king. I've got loads in the house.   I I I banged on about this because,   because I'm obviously not a lady. I don't do Christmas day. My wife's not capable of doing things because of blah blah blah. We're going to all that. So there isn't a feminine touch in the house, and there's not gonna be one for some time. So what am I supposed to do is blow up, put a Christmas tree up? No. No. No. I can't do that. But what I did do the last couple of years, and it really works, I just get about 12 or 15 candles,   fill the front room with them, and light them all up. It's just amazing. It's just fantastic.  

Just put some music on classical music and just sit there with a book or something,   a very large glass of port.  

[01:56:01] Unknown:

And what about the speakers? If you put the candles close to your speakers, the the the the vibrations from the sound will actually move the the the candle.  

[01:56:10] Unknown:

He has to put it in a bit close. Be careful. But Oh, well yeah. Yes. Yeah. No. But they're they're amazing at candles. You you can if you learn to look at them as well, you can see all these different colors coming out of them, and then you can Yeah. Then with the power of your mind, do you Well, you're supposed to do a candle. I do that all the time. Meditate  

[01:56:26] Unknown:

lost in the flame.   I don't have much luck with candles. Yeah. I mean, a few years ago, I dropped one in the bath because I was having a lovely candlelit bath. So to dry it, I put it on the radiator.   You can imagine  

[01:56:40] Unknown:

after a couple of hours a light bulb.  

[01:56:43] Unknown:

So, you know, the radiator was obviously covered in candle wax. And then when I was poorly about a year ago,   I lit candles on top of this sound box underneath our TV,   and then I could see all the plastic running out from under the TV.   So me and candles, I love them, but   we're not good. I'm not the best.  

[01:57:03] Unknown:

It's this is again, I I take this back to being a training issue.   I've got no common sense. I've got no common sense. Place it would just simply be a training issue. You cannot denigrate anyone for simp something that they simply did not know about in the first place. Just just be careful where you put a naked flame, really. I'm not sure if your insurance company would see it that way.  

[01:57:25] Unknown:

Well, tonight, I've got this,   plant that I bought, those red Christmas plants that whatever. Poncietas, I wanna say. Something like that. Oh, Poncietas.  

[01:57:35] Unknown:

What?  

[01:57:37] Unknown:

Pussy what? Chrissy f Christmas  

[01:57:39] Unknown:

effing cactus, ma'am.  

[01:57:41] Unknown:

Well, it's lovely and red, but the point was I put it in a bowl of water, and then I wanted to wrap lights around it and put batteries   hot this is. Something's not right, and the lights aren't working.   I only had the batteries, even though they were in the plastic,   in the bowl of water with the plant.   Oh.   I'm like, oh, okay.   I have got no common sense, obviously.   Anyway  

[01:58:11] Unknown:

but we're gonna round up, guys. Oh, I I want to build I want to build a candle reading station, for want of a better word.   I want to literally read by candlelight, but you need to set it up in a particular way. So I don't have any candles I'm gonna need, but reading by candlelight is better than reading by electric light. Definitely. So A 100 a 150, I reckon, mate. A 150.  

[01:58:34] Unknown:

You wouldn't need that many. Just be clear. Reading the book. It'd take me half an hour to light all the bloody candles. That. I need glasses. It's you know, I'm gonna need at least a 150, I reckon.  

[01:58:44] Unknown:

You don't need that. You probably need about 5.   I think and also, if you use a mirror at the same time, you get double the light. So you there's some I heard someone talking about this. You get 3 or 4 candles, you get a couple of mirrors, set them in a particular way, and you're illuminated like an angel from the heavens, and all the words will glow like burning coals on the page. How about that? And so, apparently, it's the best way to sounds very Lord of the Rings. I like it. Hypothetical.  

[01:59:10] Unknown:

Well,  

[01:59:11] Unknown:

it'll yeah. It'll be,   so apparently, it's really good for you. I mean, you know, Dostoevsky used to read under a thing with a candlelight. That's why I went blind, of course. But, you know  

[01:59:21] Unknown:

Will it work with me Kindle, Matt? I don't know. I don't know. I got an old Kindle. No. You know about that. You're talking about a candle Kindle. Is that what you want? You want a candle Kindle? Yeah. That's the one. Candle. That's the one. Yeah. Can we advocate Hey. We're nearly out of time. I'm just giving you a shout, Shelley. You've got a wrap up. Oh, no. I was just trying to get a word in. Oh. You've been listening to the Shelley Tasker show with the awesome Joe Wood, Malefiska Scott, Al Von Kirk, and Paul English. Have an awesome week. Be back the same time   next week. Thank you, guys. Been awesome.  



[01:59:56] Unknown:

Thank you, Shelley. You've been brilliant. Thank you. We really need to on.   You can play it with some music. Don't worry.  

[02:00:08] Unknown:

That's quite good a bit of chatting with music.  

[02:00:23] Unknown:

Cheerio, folks, and happy Christmas.  

[02:00:27] Unknown:

I'll see you.  

[02:00:29] Unknown:

Bye bye. Bye. I'm Olivia Guest. Bye bye. Bye. Oh, okay.