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Tonight we are talking about one of my favourite subjects ... The Titanic ! Part One
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In this gripping episode, we delve into John Hamer's research of the Titanic disaster, exploring the moments leading up to and following the infamous so called iceberg collision.
Join us as we explore this poignant narrative, offering a personal perspective on one of history's most enduring maritime tragedies
In this captivating episode, we welcome John, a seasoned geopolitical researcher and author, who has been delving into the intricacies of global events since 1997. Our discussion centres around the Titanic, a subject that has fascinated John for years, leading him to write extensively about it, including two books: "RMS Olympic" and "Titanic's Last Secret." John reveals his journey into uncovering the truth behind the Titanic's story, challenging the widely accepted narrative and suggesting a deeper conspiracy involving the Federal Reserve Banking System.
John shares his meticulous research process, which included examining public records, inquiry transcripts, and contemporary newspapers, as well as the Marconi wireless communications from the time of the Titanic incident. He argues that the official story of the Titanic, popularised by a CIA agent's book, is a fabrication designed to cover up a more sinister plot.
The conversation delves into the intriguing theory that the Titanic's sinking was orchestrated to eliminate opposition to the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank. John discusses the alleged switch between the Titanic and its sister ship, the Olympic, and how this elaborate deception was carried out. He highlights the involvement of influential figures like JP Morgan and the mysterious circumstances surrounding the voyage, including the absence of key individuals who were supposed to be on board.
Join us next week as we continue this enthralling exploration into one of history's most enduring mysteries, uncovering more about the alleged deception and its implications.
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Unknown:
Good evening, Shelley. And good evening, John. Nice to Good evening. Nice to nice to finally,
[00:01:10] Unknown:
meet up with you all. Yeah. I know. Totally. Thank you. You too. Oh, bless bless you. Right. So, John, I was just saying you've been a full time geopolitical researcher and an author since 2,001. And, god, you've done you've done a lot of research, haven't you? When you look at your website.
[00:01:28] Unknown:
Yeah. No. It's actually since 1997. Oh, really? I don't know I don't know where the 2,001 came from. From your website.
[00:01:35] Unknown:
But perhaps I wrote that down as well.
[00:01:38] Unknown:
Oh, no. Maybe maybe it is May, but no. It's definitely 97 because it was it was Princess Diana's death that kicked it all off. So
[00:01:46] Unknown:
Right. Okay. Lovely. Well, we've got you on tonight, and we've fortunately got you on for next week as well when, there won't be any hitches next week because we got a big topic to delve into this evening, the Titanic. And I just wanted to ask you before we delve into it, do we need to know do we need to discuss before the Titanic, the bank the the Federal Reserve Banking System? Because I know it all kind of ties in.
[00:02:12] Unknown:
No. I think it's just it I I the way that I present it, I it's just part of the whole thing. So we we, I mean, when we do go into it, do you want me to explain it in a little bit more detail just to give it a bit bit of background? Because I I I always kinda make the assumption that people know what the Federal Reserve is, etcetera, etcetera. But maybe that's not the case with your audience. I don't know. No. Perhaps just vaguely go into it. Yeah. Because it would be Yeah. Helpful for some people. Yeah. So tell us a bit about yourself, John. You, got into this, like you said, 1997. It was the death of Diana.
[00:02:45] Unknown:
And Yeah. Since then, you're like, woah.
[00:02:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I've been a a geopolitical researcher, analyst, geopolitical analyst. Sounds like a very grand word, but, you know, that's what I do. An author and a public speaker for, yeah, 27 years now. And, yeah, I mean, I've written 8 books. Number 9 is in the pipeline. That should be out by the end of this year, begin very beginning of next, all of which are available on Amazon for anyone who's interested. But, yeah, I've written 2 books specifically about the Titanic. One is called RMS Olympic, and the other one is Titanic's Last Secret. Now Titanic's Last Secret is actually a novel based on the the factual book, which is RMS Olympic, and that's, you know, the the real Titanic story, if you like, not not the not the apocryphal one that we hear in the media virtually every day or, you know, we have done for for many, many decades.
You know, that basically, that's for public consumption and is, exactly what I said. It's apocryphal. It's not real. It's just a a story that was actually made up by a CIA agent, of all people, which I suppose is not surprising in some ways.
[00:04:09] Unknown:
No. So what made you delve into the to study in the Titanic then? I know it's a fantastic story. Everyone always seems interested. Yeah.
[00:04:17] Unknown:
Well, exactly. I mean and this is obviously why it it it just captured people's attention. It's it's a it's always fascinated me, you know, ever since childhood. You know? It just seemed to me to be so surreal and unbelievable. I mean, well, it actually is. But the thing about the Titanic story, the one that we hear every day in the media, is, that it's got just about every element that makes up a great story, and that that's what grips the public's imagination. It's got rich versus poor. It's got, you know, love intro love stories, love stories abound, you know, tragedy. It's just kind of a bit of every element that that a good story writer will, add into a story to make it appeal to to the mass audience, and that's exactly what they did with it.
So yeah. So yeah. It it I I'm no different. It was the same for me. It it it really kept my imagination, and I and I'd always been fascinated by it. And, of course, up until maybe, I don't know, 15, 16 years ago, I just build it as everyone else did, I just believed the, the official story. And it was only when I did my 3 years solid research on it that I found out that it, you know, it couldn't be further from the truth what what what actually happened. As, you know, a lot of people won't be surprised by that because, you know, there are so many other instances of that kind of, scenario. You know, peep stories being twisted for public consumption to hide the real truth, and and Titanic is no different to that at all. Oh, great stuff. Great stuff. Right. So begin. Tell us a story, John. Well, yeah, I'll just give you I'll just give you a little bit of background to to where I I got my research first because I think that, you know, that that's people always ask me that. So I think, you know, people are interested in that. The background to my research was that I researched it solidly for 3 years from 2010 to 2013, and I I looked at various archives in public libraries.
I looked at the, the inquiry transcripts. Now there were 2 inquiries after the event, the American and the British one. I looked at the transcripts of those, and they tell a very, very different story to what we hear. I looked at Harland and Wolff Public Records. I actually went to to Belfast and looked in Belfast Library where Harland and Wolff Public Records are kept. And the thing about all this information is it it's out there. You know, it's it's hiding in plain sight. So it's not like I'm making this stuff up. It's, you know, it's out there. So, you know, everything that you're gonna hear tonight and next week probably is, you know, more or less as accurate as it can be, the story.
I also looked in contemporary newspapers, which again were very revealing. They tell a slightly different story to to the one that we hear. Obviously, the Internet, that ubiquitous research tool, but which by the way these days is being heavily censored. And, again, I looked at the transcripts of the all the Marconi wireless communications that were going on in the North Atlantic between the liners, at the time of the incident, and they're only available in the Bodleian Library in Oxford, nowhere else. So I spent, 2 or 3 days down there. And, again, very revealing.
So yeah. I mean, there's so much to tell about the Titanic story, most of which is in my book, IMS Olympic. For example, I once did a 4 hour podcast on this subject and didn't cover everything. So, yeah, I mean, I won't be going into that kind of detail. I'm this is just gonna be a, you know, a basic look at it, just to work people's appetite, really. So, yeah, let's begin. The incident occurred at 11:40 PM on, Sunday 14th April 1912. I don't think there's much doubt about that. And Titanic sank approximately 3 and a half hours later at, 2:20 AM local time, on Monday 15th.
Now as I briefly mentioned earlier, the official story was actually a book written by a guy by the name of Walter Lord, who was a CIA agent in the early 19 fifties. And he wrote this book, and it was called A Night to Remember, which some of the audience listeners may, actually have read or even seen the feature film that was made a few years afterwards in the late 19 fifties starring Kenneth Moore. And, yeah, this this is where the official story comes from. Up until that point in time, the early 19 fifties, this story was not as it is now. It was Walter Lord, a CIA agent, who actually wrote this story, okay, to cover up up because that's I'm getting ahead of myself really, but it it kinda begs the question in my mind, what was a CIA agent doing writing a book about an ocean liner incident that happened 40 years previously?
You know? And when you when you look into that question itself, the very wording of that question, you it makes you realize that things are not what they seem. And and, of course, again, you can apply this to just about every incident that takes place. But it was all rather strange to me, and, you know, my research bore it out eventually. Now there are two strands to the story. In 190 8, a gentleman by the name of JP Morgan, who was head of the huge conglomerate corporation that still bears his name today, the financial organization, he was also the ultimate owner of the White Star Line, White Star shipping line, which, to which, Titanic belonged.
And he decided to build 3 luxury liners, and with this was with a mandate of becoming the most luxurious in the world. And these were the Olympic, RMS Olympic, RMS Titanic, and RMS Titanic in that order. RMS Olympic was the first one to be completed shortly followed by Titanic, and then several years later, couple of years later, Britannic. Okay. But Britannic wasn't built until after Titanic had sunk. Okay. So 3 ships, almost but not quite identical to be built. And he commissioned Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast to begin construction of these ships in 1908. Now this was a massive investment of money for, for JPMorgan, and he and he financed it personally, and that's important, and we'll come on to that.
So but it was a huge gamble for him. This plan depended on absolutely everything going right. But as we'll see, as we go through it, this whole enterprise of his was beset with problems, which ultimately ended in tragedy as we all know. So as I said, RMS Olympic was by the way, feel free to Yeah. I'll do that right. I'm fascinated. I don't I don't I don't wanna be seen to be just rambling on forever. No. You're not rambling. Just go for it. Oh, okay. Right. Yep. RMS Olympic was the first one of the sister ships to be built. Okay. She was launched in 1911. But unfortunately for Morgan and his substantial bank balance, she had several serious accidents.
4, in fact, all before the launch of Titanic. So in other words, all these incidents occurred in the first few months of Olympics' life. Number 1, she actually on a maiden voyage, when she arrived in New York Harbor, she actually destroyed a tug vote. White Star Line was sued. Fortunately, there were no deaths, but they were fined tens of 1,000 of pounds. I don't know the exact figure now, but it was it was a lot of money. I mean, it's a lot of money today, but in in those days, that was, you know, substantial. Just as a comparison between 19 12 pounds £2024, you can multiply the former by around a 100, 110 to get the same equivalent value today.
That doesn't apply to every commodity, but it's just a rough guide. The second one was she ran over a sunken wreck at Sandy Hook whilst leaving New York. Sandy Hook, famous place for something else. But we won't go into that. She, she caused severe damage to her propellers. She returned back across the Atlantic at around half speed, but suffered further damage through vibration due to the imbalance caused by the propeller damage, and 2 propellers had to be replaced. Accident number 3, on, another voyage, she hit a sandbank, again, across the Atlantic in, in America, and she threw up another propeller. And this also had to be replaced. But having used both spares, there were only 2 spares, they had to borrow one from the Titanic, which was still under construction at this time. Now this is this point is significant, and we'll return to that point later in the story.
Okay. So, yeah, I'll try and remember to get to cover that cover that issue when we get there. I think I'll probably be on that. It's not sounding very hopeful, though, is it? Three hits. No. No. Right. And then then finally I say finally, but in September 1911, Olympic was involved in a massive high speed collision with the British Navy Battleship HMS Hawk, which is known as as the Hawk incident in in Titanic circles. This was after leaving Southampton Water and preparing to turn westward, traveling clockwise around the Isle of Wight. Okay. For those who are not aware, the Isle of Wight is an island just off the south coast of England. Okay. And so it it massive damage. Absolutely massive damage. She limped back to Southampton.
All the passengers were evacuated. She limped back to Southampton to be patched up. The patch up took 2 weeks alone just to enable her to make the 600 mile sea trip back to Belfast, to Howland and Wolff for full repairs. Now the reason she had to go back to Belfast was because at this point in time, she was the biggest ship in the world, and the only dry dock big enough to take her for full damage assessment was in Belfast. So once they got her back to Belfast, they realized that she was in far worse shape than they originally thought. And worse still to come, the Royal Navy inquiry into the accident, because every every accident involving a Royal Navy ship that rail enabling inquiry.
And, the the the rail enabling inquiry in this case found that Olympics crew and therefore White Star Line were culpable. So therefore White Star were liable for many 1,000,000 of pounds of expenses to repairs, and this is 1912,000,000 by the way, to both ships. Couple that with the significant loss of revenues, because if you remember I said right at the beginning that, Morgan's plan depended on absolutely everything going correct, going well, otherwise, he was gonna be gonna struggle. And, you know, as rich as he was, this was his own personal money. And so there was a significant loss of revenues while Olympic was out of action and unable to ply a trade back into across the Atlantic.
Now amongst many, many other relatively minor issues, well, there were 2 really. I mean, the the biggest the, most obvious one was a huge hole in our side, okay, which was letting in thousands of gallons of water. Okay? And that stretched over about 6 decks, I believe. And, but the major problem was more invisible, and that was the Olympics keel was bent and distorted out of shape. And the yes repairs were estimated to cost more the to build the new ship from scratch. Now I spoke to several man mariners as part of my research, and they all said that a twisted or bent keel on a ship equals a total wreck. Fact, not just a lot of people know this, but Olympic was actually at this point in time declared a wreck.
So White Star now realized that Olympic was damaged beyond economic repair, and significantly now that she she was now insurable. So therefore, she was an insurance write off, and and Westar had no option but to declare her officially as a wreck, as I said, and that actually did happen. You know, the document documents prove this. Right. So, yeah, she was, you know, documents prove it to be true. So, yeah, she was officially declared a wreck. Sorry. We're gonna say something. No. No. No. I'm just agreeing with you. We'll see. Yep. Alright. Okay. Right.
Okay. So, also, yeah, as I said, also, you know, due to the damage, she was unable to, do what she'd been built for, and that was to earn money for the, White Star Line, playing a trade back and forth across the Atlantic. So the bankruptcy of White Star Line and Harlan and Wolff was definitely on the cards at this point. And I believe that this is where the the Federal Reserve comes into the situation. I believe that at this point, Morgan and his coconspirator conspirators then hatched a plan to, in effect, kill 2 birds with 1 stone, solve the White Star Line financial problems, and his own financial problems, by the way, and remove opposition to the Federal Reserve in one simple move.
And this involved, I believe, patching up the wrecked Olympic as best they could, embracing the twisted twisted keel with metal struts. Now we're told that the wreck of the Titanic was founded in 1985 by Robert Ballard, which is partly true. But when he disco when Ballard discovered the Titanic Robert Ballard, by the way, is a 33rd degree freemason and a part of the US Secret Service as well. Ostensibly, he works for Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, which is his cover, but he is a, basically, not CIA, but a Secret Service operative. He allegedly discovered the Titanic wreck site in 1985.
He actually didn't, but that's another story, but he did find it eventually. He was puzzled to find these metal struts bracing the keel, which of course didn't appear on the construction blueprint. And it's possible to see the repairs to Olympic superstructure and steel plate that were replaced, because they're very distinctive, the ones that that were replaced, in some pictures of, guess what, Titanic prior to her maiden voyage. So, therefore, this kinda set the scene for what was a remarkable and elaborate scam, and that was the switching of the 2 identities of the 2 ships. They almost completed Titanic, and they almost wrecked Olympic. And this fact is corroborated by many, many Belfast ship workers' families, who've had the story passed down to them through their family. In fact, in Northern Ireland, it was quite commonplace for this story to be told in schools. It was more or less common knowledge in Belfast that this is what had gone on. And as part of my research, I actually put a an ad in the Belfast Evening Telegraph, to, inquire if there were any descendants of the of the of the works to me in and and be interviewed by me.
And 3 families came forward, none of which knew each other, by the way. I have 3 separate meetings, and they all told me exactly the same story. And that was that their father their grandfather or great grandfather, whatever it was, had been told in no uncertain terms that if they breathed the word about what was going on inside those dock gates with regard to those 2 ships, then not only would they never work again anywhere, not just at Harlan and Wolff, but anywhere, neither would any of their wider families either. Now in those days, that was quite significant because there was no such thing as social security, there was no such thing as the devil, or any kind of help for anyone unemployed. You had to rely on the, the charity of families and friends if you if you if you weren't working.
So that was a very serious threat, and all 3 families independently told me that that had been the case. Wow. So that begs the question.
[00:21:30] Unknown:
Sorry. Did you want to So I've just got you on 2 minutes. There was no whistle blowers.
[00:21:36] Unknown:
Oh, exactly that. So yeah. I mean, I mean, the other thing about whistleblowers is, I mean, things were very, very different in those days anyway. Working class people knew their place. It was not their place to question what their betters, you know, were were telling them. So they might have murmured about it between themselves, but they would never have dreamt of going to a newspaper. And even if they had, to be honest, the newspaper would have just laughed them out the building. So, yeah, I mean there was no there was no investigative reporting going on in those days, there was no roving TV crews looking for a story, nothing like that. All the only media in those days was was newspapers, it was even before radio. So, yeah, whistleblowing would have been rather a futile exercise, I'm afraid. Because because people say that to me and said, oh, come on, John. There'd be whistleblowers by the 1,000.
And there were, but they didn't have a platform. You know, they had no platform. There were there were lots of people who knew what was going on, but they didn't want to tell it to. It's like the old, the old saying that that that we sometimes hear from the people who perpetrate this kind of stuff. You know? Who are you gonna tell? Who are you gonna tell? You know? And that's why, you know, these stories only get out in very small doses, if you like. So, yeah, after Olympics accident with Hawk, HMS Hawk, she spent many, many weeks in the shipyard of Belfast being repaired, and also changes were at this time, changes were being made piecemeal to both ships.
The main difference is in the 2 ships being eradicated and making them as identical as possible. It was that wasn't a 100% practical and viable, but they did the best they could. But this is how the plot has been discovered through the through meticulous research. Okay? So it's not just me that that knows about this stuff. You know? There are other researchers as well that that have looked into it. So, you know, there there are photographs, for example, showing them in various stages of transition. And then all in one final weekend, the last changes were made. Everything with on White Star Line ships was interchangeable apart from lifeboats, menu cards, letterheads, and, of course, the ship's nameplates.
But apart from that, that those changes were made by a small crew of insiders, and and we know that these men were paid a £100, okay, which in those days would be equivalent to about £10,000 for a weekend's work. So,
[00:24:14] Unknown:
sorry, today, it would be equivalent of £10. So they went in on a weekend and changed over the signage
[00:24:20] Unknown:
and stationery stuff. Right? And it was a very small handpicked crew of trusted insiders that did it. And, for example, the guy who actually was the nameplate engraver, his name escapes me at the moment, but he actually it's given a house for what he did. Wow. And, his wife admitted that in the 19 thirties, but, of course, no one took any notice of that, but it's you know, that information is quite easy to find. Yeah. He was given a house. So, yeah, this is how they they they covered it up. Now interestingly enough, the Olympics maiden voyage, which took place in June 1911, which was about, 10 months before, Titanic's, there was absolute virtually no fanfare for it whatsoever. You look in the looking all the, contemporary newspaper reports, and there's a couple of column inches about this this big ship that had been launched, and, you know, big ship in the world, but nothing.
Now when Titanic was launched in 1911, she would rename the Olympic, and work continued on the original Olympic, which had now become Titanic, to make her seaworthy enough for one dramatic final voyage. And there are so many photographs of the 2 in various stages of both official and unofficial changes. Some of the changes are recorded, a lot weren't. But even so called experts, Titanic experts, and there are a lot of those who deny this story by the way, that's called cognitive dissonance for those who are not aware. Even even these so called experts, they struggle to separate the 2. Of course, most folks in those days had no dates, and if surreptitious changes were being made alongside official ones, then the conclusion has to be that photos prove nothing at all. But in my book, RMS Olympic, there are a series of photographs that I believe do prove the switch.
And again, obviously, you have to show them you, but but, trust me, they've been there. Involving, like, the portholes? Yeah. There's the the the the those are the two main things. Right. The two main visual differences between the two, external visual differences, were that, Olympic had on the port side bow, the front of the ship, that is, the on a deck, there are 16 portholes unevenly spaced, and on Titanic, for some reason, there are only 14, and they are very evenly spaced. So, yeah, that that's that switch was absolutely definitely made. There's no there's no question about that. What you said was the difference is Sorry. Carry on. Sorry. No. I was just gonna say, like, these experts
[00:27:09] Unknown:
on, like, Titanic, like you say, photographs. I've seen some of these photographs. How could you deny it that one's got 16 and one's got 14?
[00:27:18] Unknown:
Well, well, exactly. Yeah. And, you know, that that that's just scratching the surface really. There are so many other things, but they're the they're the main visual things. And then the the other big visual thing was that on c deck, which is the 2 decks above a deck, which is the main deck, Titanic's promenade is enclosed, whereas the Olympics is open to the elements. So, yeah, those those were the main 2. There are plenty of others, but those were the main 2 that that that are instantly recognizable. So yeah.
Now interestingly enough, all passenger ships in those days had to have a book what's called the board of trade certificate of seaworthiness, k, from the British board of trade. And this involved a trial, what was called known as a sea trial, on open seas. And this involved stopping, starting, turning circles, maneuverability, adequate number of lifeboats, etcetera, etcetera. And strangely enough, Titanic or the new Titanic would have been Olympic because, you know, they it was now disguised as as Titanic, so it never had a British Board of Trade certificate of seaworthiness.
The the sea trial for that particular vessel was a 2 hour jaunt down Belfast lock. So it never even went to the sea. Wow. Okay. So yeah. Exactly. So, you know, there was definitely brown envelopes changing hands there, I think. So yeah. Again, I go into much more detail about that, but but, you know, it it is only a detail, really. So on on the, 10th April 1912, which was a Wednesday, Titanic West Southampton on its maiden voyage headed for New York, and it's huge celebrations in contrast to the, Olympic. Now I found that very, very significant, if you right if you like. Why would they reserve all that fanfare and pomp for the 2nd ship off the production line, not the first.
Very strange, but we'll come on to that. Okay. So it left, Southampton, made these huge celebrations, and it called at Sherborne in France and Queenstown in Ireland with 2,002,200 passengers and crew on board, which, by the way, was only half full. A lot of people don't realize that Titanic was only half full. And, again, this is significant. I'll come onto that in just a sec. But, interestingly, the transit crew, the crew responsible for the safe passage of the liner from Belfast down to Southampton before it began its maiden voyage, none well, apart from 2, none of the transit crew signed on for the maiden voyage.
Why is that, John? I'm bloody impressed. It it is because at that point in time, there well, let's let's back I'm getting ahead of myself again here. There was a at that time in the in Britain, there was a coal strike. K? Massive coal strike. All miners ran off steam, which fuel bar coal. For example, Titanic, it would have taken 6,000 tons of coal to sail Titanic or Olympic across the ocean to New York. So 6000 tons needed for each voyage. So 12,000 tons in all return. There was no coal to be had anywhere. There were lots of liners laid up and lying empty, scattered all around the dock various dockyards all around the country.
And on the day of Titanic sailing, the coal strike had been ongoing for 6 weeks, and you can imagine there was no ships leaving. Passengers desperate to get back to America or to go out there on business, they were desperate for berths on ships, but there were no ships leaving, and yet Titanic was only half full. Why would that be? I'll I'll come on to that in a in a in a little while. But yeah. So the the the transit crew was significant. There were no ships sailing anywhere from from Britain. So the transit crew crew effectively turned down a job by not signing on for the maiden voyage. Mhmm. Now jobs are scarce. You there was no you're only paid as a seaman in those days or a seawoman in those days from the moment you stepped on the gang gang plan till the moment you left at the other end and nothing in between.
So the you didn't have a full time contract. You were just you were just employed voyage by voyage. So people were were were hungry, especially south Southampton where most of the, commercial passenger ships left for for New York. There were 1,000 out of work, and they had been for 6 weeks. And yet here are people turning down the possibility of a job. Now why would that be? Well, to me, it's obvious. I mean, it is speculation, but it it's kind of obvious speculation, and that is they knew exactly what was going on. And the word got around. Of course, it did. So, yeah, there were passengers desperate for for berths on ships going across Atlantic, and yet Titanic was only half full.
You know? Part of the reason for that was because, any first class passengers in those days of, you know, very strict class distinction, 1st class passengers were only being offered, second class berth on Titanic, even though a lot of the first class cabins were were laying empty. Now I believe that they did is to restrict the numbers, deliberately restrict the numbers and make them manageable because they didn't intend to kill everybody. They only intended to kill a certain little group, and, again, I'll come on to that. Bear in mind, we're talking about the Federal Reserve here, and I'll and I'll elaborate on that a little bit. Now 5 days earlier than Titanic Olympic set sail, a a ship called SS Californian had departed for New York from London. And, again, this was in the midst of the nationwide coal strike and the shortage.
How did she manage that? Well, she was part of the same shipping line as Titanic. She was part of the same umbrella company. She she was actually of the red star line, which again was owned by JP Morgan, and it came under his umbrella company of International Mercantile Marine. And he that ship was captained by a gentleman by the name of Stanley Lord. Now Stanley Lord would had been chosen specifically for the job, I believe, because having researched the man thoroughly, I found that lo and behold, about 7 years earlier, he had been involved in an exercise to a military exercise to evacuate 2,000 people from a ship, and he managed it in record time. So he was the perfect guy for the job.
So Californian left London for New York 5 days earlier. Its its top speed was about half that of Titanic's. Titanic left 5 days after Californian, and 5 days later, 10 days for Californian. Lo and behold, Californian was sat in the ice field, the Titanic was about to enter with its, just drifting with the current, basically, in an ice field with its all its boilers fired. Now, it's it it had bear in mind, again, we're in the middle of a cold strike, and people were desperate for voyages. It had no passengers despite this huge demand, and no cargo at all except for, get this, 3,000 woolen sweaters and 3,000 woolen blankets.
And as I said, even and even Titanic sailed only half full when there was a huge demand for these places. 1st class passengers, as I've said before, hoping to transfer to Titanic. We're only offered 2nd class cabins in order to keep the numbers manageable. So on the evening of 14th, the evening of the disaster, Californians stopped dead in the middle of this ice field where Titanic was due to pass shortly, and drifted with the ice whilst keeping all of oil fully fired. Now 3 experienced transatlantic sea captains gave evidence at the American inquiry that it was not not common practice to stop or even slow down in ice fields, except sometimes in foggy conditions, as icebergs are extremely visible, and thus very very avoidable even at normal cruising speeds.
So yeah, and and this particular night was there was no fog at all, it was the clearest night a lot of people said it was the clearest night they'd ever seen on the North Atlantic. It was so clear. So there should have been no problem spotting an iceberg. So, yeah, at 11:40 PM local time, Titanic allegedly hit hit this iceberg, and I and I use that word advisedly allegedly. I'm not sure that was the case at all. And 3 hours later, some with the loss of 1500 lives. Was there even an iceberg? I don't think so, but we'll come on to that.
[00:37:19] Unknown:
Because presumably, I presume the Atlantic, that ship, if they had seen icebergs and stuff, they would have radioed into Titanic to warn them.
[00:37:29] Unknown:
Well, they they actually did. Oh, okay. That meant I mean, there were there were lots of icebergs there. Don't get me wrong. I mean, it was an ice field. There were lots of icebergs, but it it it it never happens. I mean, how how often do you do you hear of a a ship having run into an iceberg and sunk? As far as I'm aware, this is the only one ever. Right. Yeah? Mhmm. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, they did. The Californian actually, sent three messages to Titanic. By the way, radio in those days on ships was a very, very new thing. Not all ships had them. California had it. Titanic had as yeah. Titanic had it. They sent 3 messages.
Each of the three messages, it wasn't reporting ice though. It was giving their position.
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Oh. Now
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yeah. Now only none of those messages, sorry, ever reached the captain, ever reached the bridge, and that was because Titanic's radio operators, wireless operators, were actually too busy sending private messages from first class passengers to New York. You know, things like, you know, saying, right, we'll be we'll be arriving at such and such date on the at such and such a time, so be it the docks to meet us kind of thing. So they were absolutely overwhelmed, the 2 wireless operators with these messages. So there were these messages coming in as well, but they just didn't have time to deal with them. And, of course, they didn't sit and know the significance of it because they didn't know what was gonna happen. So these messages miscarried.
Okay. So yeah. So going on to, you know, expanding a little bit on the fact that, you know, icebergs are extremely visible, and, you know, even though there were icebergs there, we know there were icebergs there. But Titanic's turning circle was such that it should easily have been able to spot the iceberg in good good time and avoid it. But officially, the official story says it wasn't spotted until it was too late. But in reality it was seen 4 miles away, which of course is all rather strange if you believe the official story. Now all the ice on the decks, as a result of that collision, whatever it was, could easily have been the result of the shaking loose of large amounts of ice. It was a very cold night. It was one of the coldest nights of the year.
There was so there was a lot massive amounts of ice buildup on the on the miles of overhead rigging and wiring, and they could have shaken loose all this ice because what happened was the first thing that happened at the moment of the incident, whatever the incident was, the captain immediately ordered the engines to be thrust into reverse. Now just imagine driving down the motorway and sticking your car in reverse. It's not yeah. It's gonna shake a little bit, isn't it? Just a bit. So yeah. I mean yeah. I mean, we know we've we've you know, you you you see all these apocryphal reports about, you know, the 3rd class, young men, chasing pieces of ice around the deck, playing football with them. You know, if you watch James Cameron's appalling film, you know, you see this and these jokes, you know, with the 1st class lounge of men just saying, go go out on the deck and, fetch me a piece of ice for my whiskey and and all this kind of stuff. So, yeah, I mean, I do believe, because there's too many, actual, you know, eyewitnesses to it, that there was a lot of ice on the deck. It was claimed it was from the iceberg, but again, I'll come on to that in a in a moment of why I I don't believe it was the iceberg that caused that.
Okay. But the damage to Titanic is very strange, by the way. Again, according to the official story, nobody's seen the damage because it's below the salt line salt level in the in the in the ocean. So nobody's seen it, but this is the damage that was reported at the time. Now the steel plates, allegedly, inch thick steel plates, by the way, had a, a 4 inch wide puncture. Imagine 4 inches in a in a 1 inch steel plate that some place has penetrated 5 feet or 1.6 meters into the inner skin of the ship. Okay. So that would have needed a really bizarrely shaped ice outcrop on an iceberg to achieve that, and one that would surely have snapped off in contact with steel. I mean, we know that ice is very strong, in some cases stronger than steel, but I don't believe it's possible to cause that damage with an ice outcrop.
And this this gash, by the way, was is allegedly 300 feet long, which is about a third of the length of the ship. Excuse me. So, yeah, I find that very, very, very, very implausible.
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So, yeah, let's move on. Oh, sorry. Probably No. No. No. I'm just thinking it's all making sense now because I know little bits. Well, I think I do. Right. Okay. Okay.
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Right. So in in my book, Aurelius Olympic, I I described this intrinsic connection between the sinking of the Titanic and the formation of the Federal Reserve Bank in the US in 1913, which was the following year. Now those who are not aware of what the Federal Reserve Bank is, this is the American Central Bank. Okay. It's the equivalent of the Bank of England, if you like. It's the it's the, yeah, the central bank. And up until that point in time, there've been two attempts to to form a central bank in America, because the way central banks work, they're responsible for the a valuable, intrinsic, substance such as gold or silver that actually backs that that currency at all. All they do is print it.
Okay. So you imagine if you own the rights to print, £5, £10, £50 notes, and you had all the the printing price and the means to do that, you'd be very wealthy. But where where did that money come from? Okay. This is again, I won't go into too much detail about that, but that that, just as a bit of background, it's how central banks work. They create money out of thin air. Okay? So it this was very important to the the the the the US financiers in those days because at that point in time, they didn't have a central bank, and they felt that they were missing out on a huge opportunity to to generate pots and pots of money for little or no outlay. So, yeah, it's a very significant thing. So there was a there was a cabal of people of which JPMorgan was 1, who were, campaigning very, very heavily for the formation So in 1910, so a couple of years before Titanic, the 7 7 prominent men representing various American financial interests met incognito on a place called Jekyll Jekyll Island, which is off the coast coast of Georgia, not Georgia in Europe, but Georgia USA.
And this is to hatch a plan to use up this power to create money from the American government, and the result of this was going to be the Federal Reserve Bank. As I said, this is equivalent to the Bank of England in the UK. However, this was not without strong opposition from certain mega rich people. So, yeah, one of the prime movers behind the Federal Reserve, as I said, was JP Morgan, who obviously also owned the White Star Line and therefore Titanic and Olympic. But there were 4 extremely wealthy men who were totally opposed to the, to the the Federal Reserve Plan, and these were John j Capasta, who was allegedly the richest man in the world, Benjamin Guggenheim, Isidore Stroud, and Charles Lindbergh senior. He was the father of the famous aviator, guy who was the first to fly solo across the Atlantic.
But this wasn't because of any kind of, benevolence. It wasn't because they knew that, you know, that that the people would be robbed. It was because it was selfish. I mean, they they they knew that the Federal Reserve plan would mean soaring inflation, which it does because all that happens is, they just print more more money to pay off the debt to the Federal Reserve. So it's it's a vicious circle, and this is and this is where runaway inflation comes from or even ordinary inflation comes from, because whole money has got this inbuilt debt.
And they knew that this severe inflation, which which the Federal Reserve Bank would generate, would severely impact their own fortunes because at the end of the day, inflation is just a hidden tax like everything else. So these these 4 men had a a had a very strong resistant resistance movement going on on the East Coast, on the eastern seaboard, which was actually beginning to win the battle against the Federal Reserve conspirators. And 3 of those men died on the Titanic. Now, the 4th one, Lindbergh, he wasn't on the Titanic, but he was offered £2,000,000 multiply it by a 100.
So he was offered more than £200,000,000 not to publish the book that he'd written on why the Federal Reserve should not be brought into being. £200,000,000. Who in the who in the right mind is gonna turn down that kind of money? You'd have to be very, very, strong willed and moralistic to do that, I believe. So, yeah, the 3 of the other 3 all died on the Titanic. Now the significant thing about that is that very, very, very few first class passengers died on the Titanic. It was mainly 3rd and second. I think there was only from from memory, don't don't shout me down if I'm wrong here. I think only 2 first class ladies died, and a handful, a small handful of men, first class men, and 3 of those were the Federal Reserve conspirators.
Now they I believe that the reason that they they were actually on the Titanic was partly because, as I mentioned before, the rich and famous had been lured in great numbers to this hyped up maiden voyage by Morgan, by the who, by the way, mysteriously failed to show at Southampton Docks in time for the departure of the ship along with around 50 of his friends and colleagues. And yet he was actually, spotted that very same day at a French holiday resort with his mistress, and he was interviewed by a reporter. And, you know, there was a very sycophantic report about the man as as it tends to be of these these kind of people, published in the paper the next day, and no mention of his illness.
So there you go. So I believe that that's how we lured Astor, Guggenheim, and Strauss aboard, probably by personal invite and by booking a passage for himself. You know? How how could the person be suspicious while he's traveling on the ship himself? You know? So it's, you know, it's very Perhaps that's
[00:49:24] Unknown:
you know, it's Perhaps that's a good place to mister Morgan. Yeah. To tie it up. Yeah. We've just got a few minutes left literally 2 minutes left. Yeah. Well, I'll quite. Yeah.
[00:49:34] Unknown:
Just say one more sentence, and and I was just gonna say, so next time, we'll come to how the accident was facilitated and how did they expect to pull off the deception. So I'll just leave leave it there with that thought. So yeah. Oh, it's fascinating.
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I've been scribbling all notes down here. I think I need to go down some rabbit holes in a minute.
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Yeah. Okay.
[00:49:58] Unknown:
Brilliant. Well, thank you so much, John. Have you got anything you want to add, John Lucas?
[00:50:04] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Just fascinating to listen to you. Obviously, you've researched absolutely loads. I'm a big fan of the subject myself. Right. And I think probably one of the most important things for me, like you say, you know, I don't think it was potentially not an iceberg either. And I think Eva Hart's testimonies, point very much towards that even though they're heavily sort of redacted if you go and look her up on Wikipedia and that kind of thing. So Absolutely. You know, fascinating. Really good to listen, and I will hopefully join you on the next one. I'll probably have some more questions for you myself. So Brilliant.
[00:50:39] Unknown:
Wonderful stuff. So, just watch your website. It's, I've got it written here somewhere. Falsificationfalsificationofhistory.co.uk.
[00:50:50] Unknown:
And, my books can be ordered directly from me. I'll probably give those details next time, unless you want me to do it now. But No. I have put the link.
[00:51:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I've put the link up on the Rumble channel and stuff for your BitShoot channel as well. Okay. And your website? From BitShoot channel, and and all and my website where you can order books directly
[00:51:10] Unknown:
or, you know, or you can come direct to me. You know, I don't mind if you put my email address on there if people wanna wanna, you know, talk to me about things.
[00:51:19] Unknown:
Oh, wonderful.
[00:51:20] Unknown:
I mean be rating me or whatever.
[00:51:23] Unknown:
I'm looking at your website. You're gonna be invited on a lot, John. You have got so many stuff left. Yeah.
[00:51:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I love talking about the Titanic and everything else. And everything else. Yeah. Bring it bring it on. Yeah. Bring it on. Yeah. Alright. My lovely. Well, thank you so much for your time. I'm sorry we had a bit of a late start technical issues as always. No. Well, it's partly partly my fault. I mean, I I my watch was running 5 minutes slow, and I didn't realize. So I do apologize. That's alright. No worries.
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Okay.
[00:51:52] Unknown:
Wonderful. Thank you so much. Speak to you next week. Alright. Take care. Yeah. Speak next week. Cheers. Take care, guys. Bye bye.
[00:51:59] Unknown:
Bye. Thank you, listeners. Right. We'll be back the same time next week. Have a great week.
Good evening, Shelley. And good evening, John. Nice to Good evening. Nice to nice to finally,
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meet up with you all. Yeah. I know. Totally. Thank you. You too. Oh, bless bless you. Right. So, John, I was just saying you've been a full time geopolitical researcher and an author since 2,001. And, god, you've done you've done a lot of research, haven't you? When you look at your website.
[00:01:28] Unknown:
Yeah. No. It's actually since 1997. Oh, really? I don't know I don't know where the 2,001 came from. From your website.
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But perhaps I wrote that down as well.
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Oh, no. Maybe maybe it is May, but no. It's definitely 97 because it was it was Princess Diana's death that kicked it all off. So
[00:01:46] Unknown:
Right. Okay. Lovely. Well, we've got you on tonight, and we've fortunately got you on for next week as well when, there won't be any hitches next week because we got a big topic to delve into this evening, the Titanic. And I just wanted to ask you before we delve into it, do we need to know do we need to discuss before the Titanic, the bank the the Federal Reserve Banking System? Because I know it all kind of ties in.
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No. I think it's just it I I the way that I present it, I it's just part of the whole thing. So we we, I mean, when we do go into it, do you want me to explain it in a little bit more detail just to give it a bit bit of background? Because I I I always kinda make the assumption that people know what the Federal Reserve is, etcetera, etcetera. But maybe that's not the case with your audience. I don't know. No. Perhaps just vaguely go into it. Yeah. Because it would be Yeah. Helpful for some people. Yeah. So tell us a bit about yourself, John. You, got into this, like you said, 1997. It was the death of Diana.
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And Yeah. Since then, you're like, woah.
[00:02:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I've been a a geopolitical researcher, analyst, geopolitical analyst. Sounds like a very grand word, but, you know, that's what I do. An author and a public speaker for, yeah, 27 years now. And, yeah, I mean, I've written 8 books. Number 9 is in the pipeline. That should be out by the end of this year, begin very beginning of next, all of which are available on Amazon for anyone who's interested. But, yeah, I've written 2 books specifically about the Titanic. One is called RMS Olympic, and the other one is Titanic's Last Secret. Now Titanic's Last Secret is actually a novel based on the the factual book, which is RMS Olympic, and that's, you know, the the real Titanic story, if you like, not not the not the apocryphal one that we hear in the media virtually every day or, you know, we have done for for many, many decades.
You know, that basically, that's for public consumption and is, exactly what I said. It's apocryphal. It's not real. It's just a a story that was actually made up by a CIA agent, of all people, which I suppose is not surprising in some ways.
[00:04:09] Unknown:
No. So what made you delve into the to study in the Titanic then? I know it's a fantastic story. Everyone always seems interested. Yeah.
[00:04:17] Unknown:
Well, exactly. I mean and this is obviously why it it it just captured people's attention. It's it's a it's always fascinated me, you know, ever since childhood. You know? It just seemed to me to be so surreal and unbelievable. I mean, well, it actually is. But the thing about the Titanic story, the one that we hear every day in the media, is, that it's got just about every element that makes up a great story, and that that's what grips the public's imagination. It's got rich versus poor. It's got, you know, love intro love stories, love stories abound, you know, tragedy. It's just kind of a bit of every element that that a good story writer will, add into a story to make it appeal to to the mass audience, and that's exactly what they did with it.
So yeah. So yeah. It it I I'm no different. It was the same for me. It it it really kept my imagination, and I and I'd always been fascinated by it. And, of course, up until maybe, I don't know, 15, 16 years ago, I just build it as everyone else did, I just believed the, the official story. And it was only when I did my 3 years solid research on it that I found out that it, you know, it couldn't be further from the truth what what what actually happened. As, you know, a lot of people won't be surprised by that because, you know, there are so many other instances of that kind of, scenario. You know, peep stories being twisted for public consumption to hide the real truth, and and Titanic is no different to that at all. Oh, great stuff. Great stuff. Right. So begin. Tell us a story, John. Well, yeah, I'll just give you I'll just give you a little bit of background to to where I I got my research first because I think that, you know, that that's people always ask me that. So I think, you know, people are interested in that. The background to my research was that I researched it solidly for 3 years from 2010 to 2013, and I I looked at various archives in public libraries.
I looked at the, the inquiry transcripts. Now there were 2 inquiries after the event, the American and the British one. I looked at the transcripts of those, and they tell a very, very different story to what we hear. I looked at Harland and Wolff Public Records. I actually went to to Belfast and looked in Belfast Library where Harland and Wolff Public Records are kept. And the thing about all this information is it it's out there. You know, it's it's hiding in plain sight. So it's not like I'm making this stuff up. It's, you know, it's out there. So, you know, everything that you're gonna hear tonight and next week probably is, you know, more or less as accurate as it can be, the story.
I also looked in contemporary newspapers, which again were very revealing. They tell a slightly different story to to the one that we hear. Obviously, the Internet, that ubiquitous research tool, but which by the way these days is being heavily censored. And, again, I looked at the transcripts of the all the Marconi wireless communications that were going on in the North Atlantic between the liners, at the time of the incident, and they're only available in the Bodleian Library in Oxford, nowhere else. So I spent, 2 or 3 days down there. And, again, very revealing.
So yeah. I mean, there's so much to tell about the Titanic story, most of which is in my book, IMS Olympic. For example, I once did a 4 hour podcast on this subject and didn't cover everything. So, yeah, I mean, I won't be going into that kind of detail. I'm this is just gonna be a, you know, a basic look at it, just to work people's appetite, really. So, yeah, let's begin. The incident occurred at 11:40 PM on, Sunday 14th April 1912. I don't think there's much doubt about that. And Titanic sank approximately 3 and a half hours later at, 2:20 AM local time, on Monday 15th.
Now as I briefly mentioned earlier, the official story was actually a book written by a guy by the name of Walter Lord, who was a CIA agent in the early 19 fifties. And he wrote this book, and it was called A Night to Remember, which some of the audience listeners may, actually have read or even seen the feature film that was made a few years afterwards in the late 19 fifties starring Kenneth Moore. And, yeah, this this is where the official story comes from. Up until that point in time, the early 19 fifties, this story was not as it is now. It was Walter Lord, a CIA agent, who actually wrote this story, okay, to cover up up because that's I'm getting ahead of myself really, but it it kinda begs the question in my mind, what was a CIA agent doing writing a book about an ocean liner incident that happened 40 years previously?
You know? And when you when you look into that question itself, the very wording of that question, you it makes you realize that things are not what they seem. And and, of course, again, you can apply this to just about every incident that takes place. But it was all rather strange to me, and, you know, my research bore it out eventually. Now there are two strands to the story. In 190 8, a gentleman by the name of JP Morgan, who was head of the huge conglomerate corporation that still bears his name today, the financial organization, he was also the ultimate owner of the White Star Line, White Star shipping line, which, to which, Titanic belonged.
And he decided to build 3 luxury liners, and with this was with a mandate of becoming the most luxurious in the world. And these were the Olympic, RMS Olympic, RMS Titanic, and RMS Titanic in that order. RMS Olympic was the first one to be completed shortly followed by Titanic, and then several years later, couple of years later, Britannic. Okay. But Britannic wasn't built until after Titanic had sunk. Okay. So 3 ships, almost but not quite identical to be built. And he commissioned Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast to begin construction of these ships in 1908. Now this was a massive investment of money for, for JPMorgan, and he and he financed it personally, and that's important, and we'll come on to that.
So but it was a huge gamble for him. This plan depended on absolutely everything going right. But as we'll see, as we go through it, this whole enterprise of his was beset with problems, which ultimately ended in tragedy as we all know. So as I said, RMS Olympic was by the way, feel free to Yeah. I'll do that right. I'm fascinated. I don't I don't I don't wanna be seen to be just rambling on forever. No. You're not rambling. Just go for it. Oh, okay. Right. Yep. RMS Olympic was the first one of the sister ships to be built. Okay. She was launched in 1911. But unfortunately for Morgan and his substantial bank balance, she had several serious accidents.
4, in fact, all before the launch of Titanic. So in other words, all these incidents occurred in the first few months of Olympics' life. Number 1, she actually on a maiden voyage, when she arrived in New York Harbor, she actually destroyed a tug vote. White Star Line was sued. Fortunately, there were no deaths, but they were fined tens of 1,000 of pounds. I don't know the exact figure now, but it was it was a lot of money. I mean, it's a lot of money today, but in in those days, that was, you know, substantial. Just as a comparison between 19 12 pounds £2024, you can multiply the former by around a 100, 110 to get the same equivalent value today.
That doesn't apply to every commodity, but it's just a rough guide. The second one was she ran over a sunken wreck at Sandy Hook whilst leaving New York. Sandy Hook, famous place for something else. But we won't go into that. She, she caused severe damage to her propellers. She returned back across the Atlantic at around half speed, but suffered further damage through vibration due to the imbalance caused by the propeller damage, and 2 propellers had to be replaced. Accident number 3, on, another voyage, she hit a sandbank, again, across the Atlantic in, in America, and she threw up another propeller. And this also had to be replaced. But having used both spares, there were only 2 spares, they had to borrow one from the Titanic, which was still under construction at this time. Now this is this point is significant, and we'll return to that point later in the story.
Okay. So, yeah, I'll try and remember to get to cover that cover that issue when we get there. I think I'll probably be on that. It's not sounding very hopeful, though, is it? Three hits. No. No. Right. And then then finally I say finally, but in September 1911, Olympic was involved in a massive high speed collision with the British Navy Battleship HMS Hawk, which is known as as the Hawk incident in in Titanic circles. This was after leaving Southampton Water and preparing to turn westward, traveling clockwise around the Isle of Wight. Okay. For those who are not aware, the Isle of Wight is an island just off the south coast of England. Okay. And so it it massive damage. Absolutely massive damage. She limped back to Southampton.
All the passengers were evacuated. She limped back to Southampton to be patched up. The patch up took 2 weeks alone just to enable her to make the 600 mile sea trip back to Belfast, to Howland and Wolff for full repairs. Now the reason she had to go back to Belfast was because at this point in time, she was the biggest ship in the world, and the only dry dock big enough to take her for full damage assessment was in Belfast. So once they got her back to Belfast, they realized that she was in far worse shape than they originally thought. And worse still to come, the Royal Navy inquiry into the accident, because every every accident involving a Royal Navy ship that rail enabling inquiry.
And, the the the rail enabling inquiry in this case found that Olympics crew and therefore White Star Line were culpable. So therefore White Star were liable for many 1,000,000 of pounds of expenses to repairs, and this is 1912,000,000 by the way, to both ships. Couple that with the significant loss of revenues, because if you remember I said right at the beginning that, Morgan's plan depended on absolutely everything going correct, going well, otherwise, he was gonna be gonna struggle. And, you know, as rich as he was, this was his own personal money. And so there was a significant loss of revenues while Olympic was out of action and unable to ply a trade back into across the Atlantic.
Now amongst many, many other relatively minor issues, well, there were 2 really. I mean, the the biggest the, most obvious one was a huge hole in our side, okay, which was letting in thousands of gallons of water. Okay? And that stretched over about 6 decks, I believe. And, but the major problem was more invisible, and that was the Olympics keel was bent and distorted out of shape. And the yes repairs were estimated to cost more the to build the new ship from scratch. Now I spoke to several man mariners as part of my research, and they all said that a twisted or bent keel on a ship equals a total wreck. Fact, not just a lot of people know this, but Olympic was actually at this point in time declared a wreck.
So White Star now realized that Olympic was damaged beyond economic repair, and significantly now that she she was now insurable. So therefore, she was an insurance write off, and and Westar had no option but to declare her officially as a wreck, as I said, and that actually did happen. You know, the document documents prove this. Right. So, yeah, she was, you know, documents prove it to be true. So, yeah, she was officially declared a wreck. Sorry. We're gonna say something. No. No. No. I'm just agreeing with you. We'll see. Yep. Alright. Okay. Right.
Okay. So, also, yeah, as I said, also, you know, due to the damage, she was unable to, do what she'd been built for, and that was to earn money for the, White Star Line, playing a trade back and forth across the Atlantic. So the bankruptcy of White Star Line and Harlan and Wolff was definitely on the cards at this point. And I believe that this is where the the Federal Reserve comes into the situation. I believe that at this point, Morgan and his coconspirator conspirators then hatched a plan to, in effect, kill 2 birds with 1 stone, solve the White Star Line financial problems, and his own financial problems, by the way, and remove opposition to the Federal Reserve in one simple move.
And this involved, I believe, patching up the wrecked Olympic as best they could, embracing the twisted twisted keel with metal struts. Now we're told that the wreck of the Titanic was founded in 1985 by Robert Ballard, which is partly true. But when he disco when Ballard discovered the Titanic Robert Ballard, by the way, is a 33rd degree freemason and a part of the US Secret Service as well. Ostensibly, he works for Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, which is his cover, but he is a, basically, not CIA, but a Secret Service operative. He allegedly discovered the Titanic wreck site in 1985.
He actually didn't, but that's another story, but he did find it eventually. He was puzzled to find these metal struts bracing the keel, which of course didn't appear on the construction blueprint. And it's possible to see the repairs to Olympic superstructure and steel plate that were replaced, because they're very distinctive, the ones that that were replaced, in some pictures of, guess what, Titanic prior to her maiden voyage. So, therefore, this kinda set the scene for what was a remarkable and elaborate scam, and that was the switching of the 2 identities of the 2 ships. They almost completed Titanic, and they almost wrecked Olympic. And this fact is corroborated by many, many Belfast ship workers' families, who've had the story passed down to them through their family. In fact, in Northern Ireland, it was quite commonplace for this story to be told in schools. It was more or less common knowledge in Belfast that this is what had gone on. And as part of my research, I actually put a an ad in the Belfast Evening Telegraph, to, inquire if there were any descendants of the of the of the works to me in and and be interviewed by me.
And 3 families came forward, none of which knew each other, by the way. I have 3 separate meetings, and they all told me exactly the same story. And that was that their father their grandfather or great grandfather, whatever it was, had been told in no uncertain terms that if they breathed the word about what was going on inside those dock gates with regard to those 2 ships, then not only would they never work again anywhere, not just at Harlan and Wolff, but anywhere, neither would any of their wider families either. Now in those days, that was quite significant because there was no such thing as social security, there was no such thing as the devil, or any kind of help for anyone unemployed. You had to rely on the, the charity of families and friends if you if you if you weren't working.
So that was a very serious threat, and all 3 families independently told me that that had been the case. Wow. So that begs the question.
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Sorry. Did you want to So I've just got you on 2 minutes. There was no whistle blowers.
[00:21:36] Unknown:
Oh, exactly that. So yeah. I mean, I mean, the other thing about whistleblowers is, I mean, things were very, very different in those days anyway. Working class people knew their place. It was not their place to question what their betters, you know, were were telling them. So they might have murmured about it between themselves, but they would never have dreamt of going to a newspaper. And even if they had, to be honest, the newspaper would have just laughed them out the building. So, yeah, I mean there was no there was no investigative reporting going on in those days, there was no roving TV crews looking for a story, nothing like that. All the only media in those days was was newspapers, it was even before radio. So, yeah, whistleblowing would have been rather a futile exercise, I'm afraid. Because because people say that to me and said, oh, come on, John. There'd be whistleblowers by the 1,000.
And there were, but they didn't have a platform. You know, they had no platform. There were there were lots of people who knew what was going on, but they didn't want to tell it to. It's like the old, the old saying that that that we sometimes hear from the people who perpetrate this kind of stuff. You know? Who are you gonna tell? Who are you gonna tell? You know? And that's why, you know, these stories only get out in very small doses, if you like. So, yeah, after Olympics accident with Hawk, HMS Hawk, she spent many, many weeks in the shipyard of Belfast being repaired, and also changes were at this time, changes were being made piecemeal to both ships.
The main difference is in the 2 ships being eradicated and making them as identical as possible. It was that wasn't a 100% practical and viable, but they did the best they could. But this is how the plot has been discovered through the through meticulous research. Okay? So it's not just me that that knows about this stuff. You know? There are other researchers as well that that have looked into it. So, you know, there there are photographs, for example, showing them in various stages of transition. And then all in one final weekend, the last changes were made. Everything with on White Star Line ships was interchangeable apart from lifeboats, menu cards, letterheads, and, of course, the ship's nameplates.
But apart from that, that those changes were made by a small crew of insiders, and and we know that these men were paid a £100, okay, which in those days would be equivalent to about £10,000 for a weekend's work. So,
[00:24:14] Unknown:
sorry, today, it would be equivalent of £10. So they went in on a weekend and changed over the signage
[00:24:20] Unknown:
and stationery stuff. Right? And it was a very small handpicked crew of trusted insiders that did it. And, for example, the guy who actually was the nameplate engraver, his name escapes me at the moment, but he actually it's given a house for what he did. Wow. And, his wife admitted that in the 19 thirties, but, of course, no one took any notice of that, but it's you know, that information is quite easy to find. Yeah. He was given a house. So, yeah, this is how they they they covered it up. Now interestingly enough, the Olympics maiden voyage, which took place in June 1911, which was about, 10 months before, Titanic's, there was absolute virtually no fanfare for it whatsoever. You look in the looking all the, contemporary newspaper reports, and there's a couple of column inches about this this big ship that had been launched, and, you know, big ship in the world, but nothing.
Now when Titanic was launched in 1911, she would rename the Olympic, and work continued on the original Olympic, which had now become Titanic, to make her seaworthy enough for one dramatic final voyage. And there are so many photographs of the 2 in various stages of both official and unofficial changes. Some of the changes are recorded, a lot weren't. But even so called experts, Titanic experts, and there are a lot of those who deny this story by the way, that's called cognitive dissonance for those who are not aware. Even even these so called experts, they struggle to separate the 2. Of course, most folks in those days had no dates, and if surreptitious changes were being made alongside official ones, then the conclusion has to be that photos prove nothing at all. But in my book, RMS Olympic, there are a series of photographs that I believe do prove the switch.
And again, obviously, you have to show them you, but but, trust me, they've been there. Involving, like, the portholes? Yeah. There's the the the the those are the two main things. Right. The two main visual differences between the two, external visual differences, were that, Olympic had on the port side bow, the front of the ship, that is, the on a deck, there are 16 portholes unevenly spaced, and on Titanic, for some reason, there are only 14, and they are very evenly spaced. So, yeah, that that's that switch was absolutely definitely made. There's no there's no question about that. What you said was the difference is Sorry. Carry on. Sorry. No. I was just gonna say, like, these experts
[00:27:09] Unknown:
on, like, Titanic, like you say, photographs. I've seen some of these photographs. How could you deny it that one's got 16 and one's got 14?
[00:27:18] Unknown:
Well, well, exactly. Yeah. And, you know, that that that's just scratching the surface really. There are so many other things, but they're the they're the main visual things. And then the the other big visual thing was that on c deck, which is the 2 decks above a deck, which is the main deck, Titanic's promenade is enclosed, whereas the Olympics is open to the elements. So, yeah, those those were the main 2. There are plenty of others, but those were the main 2 that that that are instantly recognizable. So yeah.
Now interestingly enough, all passenger ships in those days had to have a book what's called the board of trade certificate of seaworthiness, k, from the British board of trade. And this involved a trial, what was called known as a sea trial, on open seas. And this involved stopping, starting, turning circles, maneuverability, adequate number of lifeboats, etcetera, etcetera. And strangely enough, Titanic or the new Titanic would have been Olympic because, you know, they it was now disguised as as Titanic, so it never had a British Board of Trade certificate of seaworthiness.
The the sea trial for that particular vessel was a 2 hour jaunt down Belfast lock. So it never even went to the sea. Wow. Okay. So yeah. Exactly. So, you know, there was definitely brown envelopes changing hands there, I think. So yeah. Again, I go into much more detail about that, but but, you know, it it is only a detail, really. So on on the, 10th April 1912, which was a Wednesday, Titanic West Southampton on its maiden voyage headed for New York, and it's huge celebrations in contrast to the, Olympic. Now I found that very, very significant, if you right if you like. Why would they reserve all that fanfare and pomp for the 2nd ship off the production line, not the first.
Very strange, but we'll come on to that. Okay. So it left, Southampton, made these huge celebrations, and it called at Sherborne in France and Queenstown in Ireland with 2,002,200 passengers and crew on board, which, by the way, was only half full. A lot of people don't realize that Titanic was only half full. And, again, this is significant. I'll come onto that in just a sec. But, interestingly, the transit crew, the crew responsible for the safe passage of the liner from Belfast down to Southampton before it began its maiden voyage, none well, apart from 2, none of the transit crew signed on for the maiden voyage.
Why is that, John? I'm bloody impressed. It it is because at that point in time, there well, let's let's back I'm getting ahead of myself again here. There was a at that time in the in Britain, there was a coal strike. K? Massive coal strike. All miners ran off steam, which fuel bar coal. For example, Titanic, it would have taken 6,000 tons of coal to sail Titanic or Olympic across the ocean to New York. So 6000 tons needed for each voyage. So 12,000 tons in all return. There was no coal to be had anywhere. There were lots of liners laid up and lying empty, scattered all around the dock various dockyards all around the country.
And on the day of Titanic sailing, the coal strike had been ongoing for 6 weeks, and you can imagine there was no ships leaving. Passengers desperate to get back to America or to go out there on business, they were desperate for berths on ships, but there were no ships leaving, and yet Titanic was only half full. Why would that be? I'll I'll come on to that in a in a in a little while. But yeah. So the the the transit crew was significant. There were no ships sailing anywhere from from Britain. So the transit crew crew effectively turned down a job by not signing on for the maiden voyage. Mhmm. Now jobs are scarce. You there was no you're only paid as a seaman in those days or a seawoman in those days from the moment you stepped on the gang gang plan till the moment you left at the other end and nothing in between.
So the you didn't have a full time contract. You were just you were just employed voyage by voyage. So people were were were hungry, especially south Southampton where most of the, commercial passenger ships left for for New York. There were 1,000 out of work, and they had been for 6 weeks. And yet here are people turning down the possibility of a job. Now why would that be? Well, to me, it's obvious. I mean, it is speculation, but it it's kind of obvious speculation, and that is they knew exactly what was going on. And the word got around. Of course, it did. So, yeah, there were passengers desperate for for berths on ships going across Atlantic, and yet Titanic was only half full.
You know? Part of the reason for that was because, any first class passengers in those days of, you know, very strict class distinction, 1st class passengers were only being offered, second class berth on Titanic, even though a lot of the first class cabins were were laying empty. Now I believe that they did is to restrict the numbers, deliberately restrict the numbers and make them manageable because they didn't intend to kill everybody. They only intended to kill a certain little group, and, again, I'll come on to that. Bear in mind, we're talking about the Federal Reserve here, and I'll and I'll elaborate on that a little bit. Now 5 days earlier than Titanic Olympic set sail, a a ship called SS Californian had departed for New York from London. And, again, this was in the midst of the nationwide coal strike and the shortage.
How did she manage that? Well, she was part of the same shipping line as Titanic. She was part of the same umbrella company. She she was actually of the red star line, which again was owned by JP Morgan, and it came under his umbrella company of International Mercantile Marine. And he that ship was captained by a gentleman by the name of Stanley Lord. Now Stanley Lord would had been chosen specifically for the job, I believe, because having researched the man thoroughly, I found that lo and behold, about 7 years earlier, he had been involved in an exercise to a military exercise to evacuate 2,000 people from a ship, and he managed it in record time. So he was the perfect guy for the job.
So Californian left London for New York 5 days earlier. Its its top speed was about half that of Titanic's. Titanic left 5 days after Californian, and 5 days later, 10 days for Californian. Lo and behold, Californian was sat in the ice field, the Titanic was about to enter with its, just drifting with the current, basically, in an ice field with its all its boilers fired. Now, it's it it had bear in mind, again, we're in the middle of a cold strike, and people were desperate for voyages. It had no passengers despite this huge demand, and no cargo at all except for, get this, 3,000 woolen sweaters and 3,000 woolen blankets.
And as I said, even and even Titanic sailed only half full when there was a huge demand for these places. 1st class passengers, as I've said before, hoping to transfer to Titanic. We're only offered 2nd class cabins in order to keep the numbers manageable. So on the evening of 14th, the evening of the disaster, Californians stopped dead in the middle of this ice field where Titanic was due to pass shortly, and drifted with the ice whilst keeping all of oil fully fired. Now 3 experienced transatlantic sea captains gave evidence at the American inquiry that it was not not common practice to stop or even slow down in ice fields, except sometimes in foggy conditions, as icebergs are extremely visible, and thus very very avoidable even at normal cruising speeds.
So yeah, and and this particular night was there was no fog at all, it was the clearest night a lot of people said it was the clearest night they'd ever seen on the North Atlantic. It was so clear. So there should have been no problem spotting an iceberg. So, yeah, at 11:40 PM local time, Titanic allegedly hit hit this iceberg, and I and I use that word advisedly allegedly. I'm not sure that was the case at all. And 3 hours later, some with the loss of 1500 lives. Was there even an iceberg? I don't think so, but we'll come on to that.
[00:37:19] Unknown:
Because presumably, I presume the Atlantic, that ship, if they had seen icebergs and stuff, they would have radioed into Titanic to warn them.
[00:37:29] Unknown:
Well, they they actually did. Oh, okay. That meant I mean, there were there were lots of icebergs there. Don't get me wrong. I mean, it was an ice field. There were lots of icebergs, but it it it it never happens. I mean, how how often do you do you hear of a a ship having run into an iceberg and sunk? As far as I'm aware, this is the only one ever. Right. Yeah? Mhmm. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, they did. The Californian actually, sent three messages to Titanic. By the way, radio in those days on ships was a very, very new thing. Not all ships had them. California had it. Titanic had as yeah. Titanic had it. They sent 3 messages.
Each of the three messages, it wasn't reporting ice though. It was giving their position.
[00:38:20] Unknown:
Oh. Now
[00:38:21] Unknown:
yeah. Now only none of those messages, sorry, ever reached the captain, ever reached the bridge, and that was because Titanic's radio operators, wireless operators, were actually too busy sending private messages from first class passengers to New York. You know, things like, you know, saying, right, we'll be we'll be arriving at such and such date on the at such and such a time, so be it the docks to meet us kind of thing. So they were absolutely overwhelmed, the 2 wireless operators with these messages. So there were these messages coming in as well, but they just didn't have time to deal with them. And, of course, they didn't sit and know the significance of it because they didn't know what was gonna happen. So these messages miscarried.
Okay. So yeah. So going on to, you know, expanding a little bit on the fact that, you know, icebergs are extremely visible, and, you know, even though there were icebergs there, we know there were icebergs there. But Titanic's turning circle was such that it should easily have been able to spot the iceberg in good good time and avoid it. But officially, the official story says it wasn't spotted until it was too late. But in reality it was seen 4 miles away, which of course is all rather strange if you believe the official story. Now all the ice on the decks, as a result of that collision, whatever it was, could easily have been the result of the shaking loose of large amounts of ice. It was a very cold night. It was one of the coldest nights of the year.
There was so there was a lot massive amounts of ice buildup on the on the miles of overhead rigging and wiring, and they could have shaken loose all this ice because what happened was the first thing that happened at the moment of the incident, whatever the incident was, the captain immediately ordered the engines to be thrust into reverse. Now just imagine driving down the motorway and sticking your car in reverse. It's not yeah. It's gonna shake a little bit, isn't it? Just a bit. So yeah. I mean yeah. I mean, we know we've we've you know, you you you see all these apocryphal reports about, you know, the 3rd class, young men, chasing pieces of ice around the deck, playing football with them. You know, if you watch James Cameron's appalling film, you know, you see this and these jokes, you know, with the 1st class lounge of men just saying, go go out on the deck and, fetch me a piece of ice for my whiskey and and all this kind of stuff. So, yeah, I mean, I do believe, because there's too many, actual, you know, eyewitnesses to it, that there was a lot of ice on the deck. It was claimed it was from the iceberg, but again, I'll come on to that in a in a moment of why I I don't believe it was the iceberg that caused that.
Okay. But the damage to Titanic is very strange, by the way. Again, according to the official story, nobody's seen the damage because it's below the salt line salt level in the in the in the ocean. So nobody's seen it, but this is the damage that was reported at the time. Now the steel plates, allegedly, inch thick steel plates, by the way, had a, a 4 inch wide puncture. Imagine 4 inches in a in a 1 inch steel plate that some place has penetrated 5 feet or 1.6 meters into the inner skin of the ship. Okay. So that would have needed a really bizarrely shaped ice outcrop on an iceberg to achieve that, and one that would surely have snapped off in contact with steel. I mean, we know that ice is very strong, in some cases stronger than steel, but I don't believe it's possible to cause that damage with an ice outcrop.
And this this gash, by the way, was is allegedly 300 feet long, which is about a third of the length of the ship. Excuse me. So, yeah, I find that very, very, very, very implausible.
[00:42:29] Unknown:
So, yeah, let's move on. Oh, sorry. Probably No. No. No. I'm just thinking it's all making sense now because I know little bits. Well, I think I do. Right. Okay. Okay.
[00:42:38] Unknown:
Right. So in in my book, Aurelius Olympic, I I described this intrinsic connection between the sinking of the Titanic and the formation of the Federal Reserve Bank in the US in 1913, which was the following year. Now those who are not aware of what the Federal Reserve Bank is, this is the American Central Bank. Okay. It's the equivalent of the Bank of England, if you like. It's the it's the, yeah, the central bank. And up until that point in time, there've been two attempts to to form a central bank in America, because the way central banks work, they're responsible for the a valuable, intrinsic, substance such as gold or silver that actually backs that that currency at all. All they do is print it.
Okay. So you imagine if you own the rights to print, £5, £10, £50 notes, and you had all the the printing price and the means to do that, you'd be very wealthy. But where where did that money come from? Okay. This is again, I won't go into too much detail about that, but that that, just as a bit of background, it's how central banks work. They create money out of thin air. Okay? So it this was very important to the the the the the US financiers in those days because at that point in time, they didn't have a central bank, and they felt that they were missing out on a huge opportunity to to generate pots and pots of money for little or no outlay. So, yeah, it's a very significant thing. So there was a there was a cabal of people of which JPMorgan was 1, who were, campaigning very, very heavily for the formation So in 1910, so a couple of years before Titanic, the 7 7 prominent men representing various American financial interests met incognito on a place called Jekyll Jekyll Island, which is off the coast coast of Georgia, not Georgia in Europe, but Georgia USA.
And this is to hatch a plan to use up this power to create money from the American government, and the result of this was going to be the Federal Reserve Bank. As I said, this is equivalent to the Bank of England in the UK. However, this was not without strong opposition from certain mega rich people. So, yeah, one of the prime movers behind the Federal Reserve, as I said, was JP Morgan, who obviously also owned the White Star Line and therefore Titanic and Olympic. But there were 4 extremely wealthy men who were totally opposed to the, to the the Federal Reserve Plan, and these were John j Capasta, who was allegedly the richest man in the world, Benjamin Guggenheim, Isidore Stroud, and Charles Lindbergh senior. He was the father of the famous aviator, guy who was the first to fly solo across the Atlantic.
But this wasn't because of any kind of, benevolence. It wasn't because they knew that, you know, that that the people would be robbed. It was because it was selfish. I mean, they they they knew that the Federal Reserve plan would mean soaring inflation, which it does because all that happens is, they just print more more money to pay off the debt to the Federal Reserve. So it's it's a vicious circle, and this is and this is where runaway inflation comes from or even ordinary inflation comes from, because whole money has got this inbuilt debt.
And they knew that this severe inflation, which which the Federal Reserve Bank would generate, would severely impact their own fortunes because at the end of the day, inflation is just a hidden tax like everything else. So these these 4 men had a a had a very strong resistant resistance movement going on on the East Coast, on the eastern seaboard, which was actually beginning to win the battle against the Federal Reserve conspirators. And 3 of those men died on the Titanic. Now, the 4th one, Lindbergh, he wasn't on the Titanic, but he was offered £2,000,000 multiply it by a 100.
So he was offered more than £200,000,000 not to publish the book that he'd written on why the Federal Reserve should not be brought into being. £200,000,000. Who in the who in the right mind is gonna turn down that kind of money? You'd have to be very, very, strong willed and moralistic to do that, I believe. So, yeah, the 3 of the other 3 all died on the Titanic. Now the significant thing about that is that very, very, very few first class passengers died on the Titanic. It was mainly 3rd and second. I think there was only from from memory, don't don't shout me down if I'm wrong here. I think only 2 first class ladies died, and a handful, a small handful of men, first class men, and 3 of those were the Federal Reserve conspirators.
Now they I believe that the reason that they they were actually on the Titanic was partly because, as I mentioned before, the rich and famous had been lured in great numbers to this hyped up maiden voyage by Morgan, by the who, by the way, mysteriously failed to show at Southampton Docks in time for the departure of the ship along with around 50 of his friends and colleagues. And yet he was actually, spotted that very same day at a French holiday resort with his mistress, and he was interviewed by a reporter. And, you know, there was a very sycophantic report about the man as as it tends to be of these these kind of people, published in the paper the next day, and no mention of his illness.
So there you go. So I believe that that's how we lured Astor, Guggenheim, and Strauss aboard, probably by personal invite and by booking a passage for himself. You know? How how could the person be suspicious while he's traveling on the ship himself? You know? So it's, you know, it's very Perhaps that's
[00:49:24] Unknown:
you know, it's Perhaps that's a good place to mister Morgan. Yeah. To tie it up. Yeah. We've just got a few minutes left literally 2 minutes left. Yeah. Well, I'll quite. Yeah.
[00:49:34] Unknown:
Just say one more sentence, and and I was just gonna say, so next time, we'll come to how the accident was facilitated and how did they expect to pull off the deception. So I'll just leave leave it there with that thought. So yeah. Oh, it's fascinating.
[00:49:51] Unknown:
I've been scribbling all notes down here. I think I need to go down some rabbit holes in a minute.
[00:49:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay.
[00:49:58] Unknown:
Brilliant. Well, thank you so much, John. Have you got anything you want to add, John Lucas?
[00:50:04] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Just fascinating to listen to you. Obviously, you've researched absolutely loads. I'm a big fan of the subject myself. Right. And I think probably one of the most important things for me, like you say, you know, I don't think it was potentially not an iceberg either. And I think Eva Hart's testimonies, point very much towards that even though they're heavily sort of redacted if you go and look her up on Wikipedia and that kind of thing. So Absolutely. You know, fascinating. Really good to listen, and I will hopefully join you on the next one. I'll probably have some more questions for you myself. So Brilliant.
[00:50:39] Unknown:
Wonderful stuff. So, just watch your website. It's, I've got it written here somewhere. Falsificationfalsificationofhistory.co.uk.
[00:50:50] Unknown:
And, my books can be ordered directly from me. I'll probably give those details next time, unless you want me to do it now. But No. I have put the link.
[00:51:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I've put the link up on the Rumble channel and stuff for your BitShoot channel as well. Okay. And your website? From BitShoot channel, and and all and my website where you can order books directly
[00:51:10] Unknown:
or, you know, or you can come direct to me. You know, I don't mind if you put my email address on there if people wanna wanna, you know, talk to me about things.
[00:51:19] Unknown:
Oh, wonderful.
[00:51:20] Unknown:
I mean be rating me or whatever.
[00:51:23] Unknown:
I'm looking at your website. You're gonna be invited on a lot, John. You have got so many stuff left. Yeah.
[00:51:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I love talking about the Titanic and everything else. And everything else. Yeah. Bring it bring it on. Yeah. Bring it on. Yeah. Alright. My lovely. Well, thank you so much for your time. I'm sorry we had a bit of a late start technical issues as always. No. Well, it's partly partly my fault. I mean, I I my watch was running 5 minutes slow, and I didn't realize. So I do apologize. That's alright. No worries.
[00:51:51] Unknown:
Okay.
[00:51:52] Unknown:
Wonderful. Thank you so much. Speak to you next week. Alright. Take care. Yeah. Speak next week. Cheers. Take care, guys. Bye bye.
[00:51:59] Unknown:
Bye. Thank you, listeners. Right. We'll be back the same time next week. Have a great week.
Introduction and Guest Background
John's Journey into Geopolitical Research
The Titanic Story: Official vs. Reality
The Incident and the Official Story
The Olympic's Troubles and Financial Implications
The Maiden Voyage of the Titanic
The Federal Reserve Connection
The Fate of Titanic's Opponents
